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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the thing, I don't know what the bucklinger's asking price would be, but it can't be super high.


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[Assistant] You know, I will say though, do you think, and look, this is not saying that Dak Prescott is the same talent as Andy Dalton or her cousins. I think he's better than both of those guys. But, does he have the same ceiling? Can the Cowboys win a Super Bowl with him, Ryan?


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[Assistant] Also, if you can't win a Super Bowl with your quarterback, do you cut ties at some point?


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[Assistant] So I think the question here is, how much longer do you go with, like, look, I'm gonna use the Bengals example, and again, I think Dak Prescott is a better quarterback than Andy Dalton, but the Bengals draft Dalton in 2011.


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[Assistant] Bengals go to 5 straight, make 5 straight playoff appearances, but they eventually got to a point where they said, Dalton's not getting us to the next level.


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[Assistant] We gotta move on, even though they had gone to five straight playoff appearances. So now you have the Cowboys where DAC has been the starter for seven seasons now. They've gone to the playoffs four times, but they've never made it past the divisional round. So do you, do you get to a point where you say, all right, it's time to see if there's something better out there.


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[Assistant] Well I think one thing though is that his contract only runs through 2024, so maybe that's the...


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[Assistant] You know, he'll probably be looking for extension after the upcoming season 2023, but you're like, eh, let's let this one run out. If he doesn't get you past, if he doesn't get you the conference title game in 2023, that's when you say, you know what, let's just, let's, let's.


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[Assistant] We'll go through this entire contract, we'll let them play it out, and we'll see what happens.


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[Assistant] I think I probably do it if I'm the Cowboys. Both teams, I don't think that's, uh, oh man, that would be insane. The internet would break if Dak Prescott got traded for Lamar Jackson straight.


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[Assistant] Uuuh, I mean, the whole offense is horrible, the offensive line is horrible, and you're gonna throw a rookie quarterback back there to get destroyed, that just seems like a recipe for disaster.


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[Assistant] That just seems like an incredibly risky move, I'm not saying they won't do it, because they're the bears, they make incompetent decisions regularly, but yeaah, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Justin Fields went on the part of my take podcast.


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[Assistant] And said he hates playing cold weather. Like man, you play in Chicago.


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[Assistant] And that he hopes a dome gets built. Well guess what? If a dome gets built, it's not happening for at least 5 to 7 years. So you're stuck playing out in the cold. That's not a great thing I want to hear if I'm the head coach or the general manager of the Bears that my starting quarterback doesn't like playing in cold weather when you're playing.


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[Assistant] Six weeks of the season, or I mean eight weeks, starting mid-November and now the regular season goes through mid-January, so you're talking about


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[Assistant] Almost two months where you could have incredibly cold weather. So that was just an interesting comment by Fields.


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[Assistant] And the thing is he's from Kennesaw, Georgia. I lived in Atlanta for a few years. They get winters there. It's not like this is living in Hawaii or South Florida where it's 70 degrees year round. I mean, he's lived in normal four season weather and he just doesn't like cold weather.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know what, Trevor Lawrence cut his interceptions in half playing for a competent head coach. He doubled, more than doubled his touchdown pass total. And I think that giving him another year in Doug Peterson's system that he can absolutely


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[Assistant] Uh, take the next step because he fell like seven steps backwards playing for Urban Meyer. So he's like, I think it's gonna be easy for him to get back to where he was. And then now you just got to keep moving up. And yeah, I do think that.


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[Assistant] This might sound crazy or not sound crazy, but it just feels like Jacksonville might be the run of the kings of the jungle and the AFC South for a while.


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[Assistant] Well, and like the Colts could absolutely be good if they get their quarterback situation figured out, but like Jacksonville's just, they're all, they've got, they're pretty decent everywhere.


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[Assistant] You know, there's not a team that has like a gigantic weakness, like the Titans offensive line, the Colts quarterback situation, the Texans, half the roster, so it's just... Jacksonville was built smartly over the past couple years.


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[Assistant] See, as the guy who picked the Broncos, stupidly, had to win the Super Bowl last season.


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[Assistant] Uh, this is exactly what I didn't want, where I, mid-season was like, this team's terrible, and I'm glad I'm out. I'm out on them. And then...


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[Assistant] They hire Sean Payne, it's like, and you just totally redeemed yourself.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that's where I am right now. This is so it makes me sad that I'm back in on the Broncos. I do think...


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[Assistant] This is just a great move for Peyton. I kind of say this when Peyton got hired with the podcast. I just feel like it's win-win for him because if he fixes Russell Wilson, the Broncos are good. He's going to get all the credit. If he can't fix Russell Wilson, the Broncos are bad. Then everyone's just going to assume Russell Wilson was horrible and can't be fixed. And that's not Sean Peyton's fault. So there's no downside for him.


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[Assistant] Uh, I do think they'll win more than five games because that offense also dealt with a lot of injuries. I mean, they had offensive line injuries, wide receiver injuries, Javonte Williams got injured. So they weren't healthy at all throughout the season. And so with everyone healthy, you have Sean Payton, uh, calling the plays, running the offense and


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[Assistant] I don't think, I think they improve at least two or three games minimum. So we're looking at seven or eight wins and then, you know, Peyton can fix Russell Wilson. Maybe we're talking about 10 wins.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's why they got Sean Payton. Yeah, they absolutely want the playoffs, but I'm saying if Russell Wilson is horrible, Sean Payton, go to the owners and look, say, I know he's going to say, look, I had nothing to do with this dumb contract we gave Russell Wilson. Uh, but I think we need to move on. And so you either figure out a way to move on after 2023, but that's only if he's horrible again. So.


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[Assistant] That's the whole thing. You know, the ownership's not gonna blame Sean Payton if Russell Wilson is bad next season. So...


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[Assistant] Uh, well then he's gonna have a chip on his shoulder. And then he'll say, Hey, what if I win the Superbowl? Can I bring my coach back in here? And they will be like, sure Russell. And then they win the Superbowl and they're like, haha, jokes on you now. Play with the chip on your shoulder again.


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[Assistant] But just real quick, the, the, uh, Russell Wilson's cap hit, his dead cap for 2023, which, you know, he's not going anywhere. It's 107 million.


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[Assistant] That's from Spotrack. For 2024 though, and that's the year where I'm thinking if he's horrible in 2023, Peyton's gonna be like, let's move on. His dead cap that year is $85 million. So there's not even a realistic way. I mean, I'm sure the post-June 1st will cut that down to maybe a little bit under 50 million, but it's still such an absurd number. But there's no way out of this contract for the next two years.


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[Assistant] Well hold on, that's cause Billy put the over under at nine and a half.


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[Assistant] I don't want to get yelled at by Chiefs fans, who are still probably, still hungover from the parade.


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[Assistant] I'll say the Chargers, but I'll say the Broncos finish within two games of them.


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[Assistant] Why, is that too much or too little? Embarrassing for the chargers?


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[Assistant] Well, what if the Chargers are 9 and 8 and the Broncos are 7 and 10?


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[Assistant] And that's on the general manager for giving him a crazy contract without seeing him play a single down for Denver.


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[Assistant] You know what, let's switch this question to can Jared Goff


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[Assistant] 33 year drought without a playoff win. You know, we had all the talk with the Bengals, finally ended, it was at 31 years.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, to win the Super Bowl, they are, uh, they're plus 3,000 to win the Super Bowl, so I guess it's not, uh, that out of...


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[Assistant] Well, I think the Lions are good. That's the thing is, and I do think they can get to the playoffs and you could certainly make the argument that they're from a talent standpoint, they could be the second best team in the division going in the next season.


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[Assistant] It's completely possible, and I hope it happens because Lions fans deserve it. Lions fan paid for the conversation we had with the money that went to charity in August. Oh really?


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[Assistant] What charity go to? What charity do we donate to? St. Jude's is what we usually do. St. Jude's, yeaah. St. Jude's. So yeaah, I was a Lions fan, uh, had a great conversation with him and I was like, man, I hope you guys eventually win a playoff game. So yeaah, I think this team is absolutely talented enough to win a playoff game next year.


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[Assistant] Well, they played each other in, I think 2014 and there was a controversial call, like a pass interference or something, holding, defensive holding.


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[Assistant] Uh, and the Cowboys end up winning 24-20. Uhm, you know what? I will just say, and look at this, Billy getting the chart out of playoff wins since 2020, the Lions have the big zero, or since 2000, since 2000. That is an ugly number.


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[Assistant] All Joe Burrow wins. Unbelievable. All Joe Burrow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see the graphic, the lines, the big zero. Every other NFL team has at least one playoff win since 2000.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the thing is I do feel like with the lions that, uh, that,


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[Assistant] The week 18, the season finale game against the Packers felt like a playoff game and that's the kind of attitude you want to see that his guys came. They had literally nothing to play for. There was nothing to be gained except to know that you are keeping the Packers home from the playoffs and they went out and won a game that was played in a playoff atmosphere. So that's what makes me think.


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[Assistant] It looks like you were falling apart. And you know what I'll say is that, uh, I was secretly rooting for you because I didn't want Princeton to win two years in a row because his head would get too big. Yea, he did win last year.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, that's right. I can then moe you that five back plus $28.33.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's not like, how many great games did he even play? I realize he only played six games after serving his suspension, but...


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[Assistant] He didn't look like a good quarterback out there. I mean, he didn't have a single 300 yard game. He only threw over 200 yards twice in six games. And so maybe it was, uh,


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[Assistant] I'm not sure they're better than the Steelers, so what? And what do you do? So like, what if Deshaun Watson isn't good in 2023? What do you do if you're the Browns? So instead of saving the Browns organization, is Deshaun Watson going to destroy the Browns organization? This is it? And they just fold because they can't afford to pay the rest of his contract?


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[Assistant] Oh my god. I don't even know. That is just... Why would you put me in this situation?


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[Assistant] That's a dilemma they find themselves. And one of these guys cost a lot more than the other two. Dak has a nice chemistry with Amari Cooper. Does that, does that count for anything? Yeah, I mean, Watson probably isn't my number one pick there.


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[Assistant] Uh, for me it would be the second one. Right. I don't even have to think about that one.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast, CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm your host. We're talking some betting trends for week 15. And boy, do we have a


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[Assistant] Interesting, obvious first topic that we will talk about. Joining me to break down week 16, excuse me. That's whatever. Joining me to break down week 16's odds. Tyler Sheldon here. What's up, buddy?


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[Assistant] Yeah, the, I mean, you know, for being perfectly frank, I'm not a huge fan of.


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[Assistant] The NFL, um, full NFL slate landing on Christmas, even Christmas day happens every like three years basically. And it's, when it happens, it's like, it becomes very cumbersome for, uh, relating to your family. And you know who else I'm like it.


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[Assistant] And I gotta tell you, so, um, it's interesting how this works. I don't want to.


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[Assistant] On Sunday night, the line was Cowboys minus one and a half. And I suggested that it might actually move closer to a pick them because


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[Assistant] The, you know, because of the result, well, just that the cowboys would be deflated, having lost the Jaguars, uh, Eagles could clinch, you know, people.


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[Assistant] The line moved to three on like two Monday afternoon or Tuesday, maybe. Oh no, maybe it's Monday. It's today's Tuesday. And, um.


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[Assistant] I'm recording this. And, uh, yeaah, I'm really getting my days mixed up here. Uhm, and the, uh,


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[Assistant] But it is in, and then the report came out on Monday afternoon that Jalen hurts might not play in this game.


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[Assistant] The line shot all the way up to six and a half or seven, I believe it is back down to five and a half.


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[Assistant] I think that as a result of people not being, I think when the line got to six and a half or seven, people started slamming the Eagles.


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[Assistant] People were saving the Cowboys. So there's a, there's a bunch of exposure here for the sports books on a middle where it's like.


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[Assistant] Cowboys minus one and a half and Eagles minus plus seven, which is just a delightful window to have. That's fantastic. I'm curious, let's talk about Jalen Hurts for a minute and what this means for the Eagles moving forward. They don't have to beat the Cowboys this week. That's the important thing to understand.


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[Assistant] One win, and one win in the Phillies, Clements division. And, as I pointed out, I think on the show on Sunday night, or at least some point, uhm, they get the Saints next week. The Saints hold their, they hold the Saints first round pick next year.


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[Assistant] If you can beat the saints Clinton, like just get some rest against the Cowboys, beat the saints Clinton division, and you push the saints pick higher by beating them or your pick. You make your pick better by beating them. It's, it's just a delightful little.


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[Assistant] Sorry, I was, I was trying to listen. Jalen Hirsch is actually talking to the media right now. And he's like, he even said, he's like, everybody knows what's going on. It's pretty public. It's like, he's like, I don't want to talk about myself.


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[Assistant] He's like, but being the quarterback of the Philadelphia Eagles, you can't run from it. It's like, yeah, tell us what your injuries, right? I say he's taking it day by day. I saw Mike Garofalo tweet that all the cases are, it will be mentioned. I agree. Mention more than serviceable. 22 career starts in just four years. And two of those, uh, starts two of those years with Philly.


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[Assistant] When he started last year, he started two, two starts last year at one-on-one, uh, had eight starts with Jacksonville in 2020 when he won at seven, but, um, that wasn't the urban liar actually. That was, but still, you know, you, you know.


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[Assistant] Eight starts and then had, uh, 12 starts in 2019 with Jackson where we were at six and six.


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[Assistant] I tend to agree and I think that's why you saw the line come back down. Um, I think five and a half is probably like five and a half makes me.


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[Assistant] Makes me think about it, you know, like, um, is like, it makes me, it makes me, um.


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[Assistant] Hesitate to take either side. Like it's a much better seven. I'm like, give me the Eagles. Oh yeah. And one and a half. I'm like, give me the Cowboys. Obviously, uh, five and a half. I'm like, this is a tough boy. Tough.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And so I think, uh, that's where I'd be leaning to if, you know, if right now five and a half, I'm taking the points with the Eagles. The total still is at like 46 though. I don't think that's.


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[Assistant] These games, I think him missing any games hurts his MVP case. I believe I saw this. Um, I saw this on SVP sports center last night and I, but I didn't, I didn't look it up yet. This is pretty crazy. Have you looked at the MVP awards, MVP odds?


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[Assistant] Don't look now. Put your hands, put your freaking hands up, Sully!


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[Assistant] I just don't, I don't trust breach. I trust you. It's not like breach. I don't trust. Um, so Jalen hurts was minus one 40, right? Okay. Something like that. Minus one 70, maybe my homes is like plus 200 or plus one 50, something like something in that range. Is that probably right? Sure.


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[Assistant] The injury thing with hurts is announced. What do you think happened to those odds specific numbers wise?


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[Assistant] He's, it's, what'd you say Hertz was? Minus 170. Or minus 150ish.


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[Assistant] To win the MVP and Josh Allen also plus 550 Joe Burrow plus 550 and then Justin Jefferson into a 150 to one. That is an overreaction to me.


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[Assistant] I still think voters will want to reward him for this incredible season if the Eagles go on and are, but there is a very good chance that he ends up missing week 18 as well.


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[Assistant] If he misses week 16 and Gardner-Menshu, and they win with Gardner-Menshu, there's no real reason to bring him back for the rest of the year, unless you just really want to let him get the MVP, right?


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[Assistant] Because if you, if you have a shoulder strain now on the other hand, it's like, and again, just sort of looking at globally, it's like, if you.


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[Assistant] Sit him this week and then she wins and you clench because if they, if they win this week, they clench, they clench the number one seed. They clench the division.


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[Assistant] Obviously they're already in the playoffs. They, they, there's nothing, there's nothing left for them to play for. They're not undefeated. Your quarterback is a shoulder injury. So my point is like.


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[Assistant] Would you rest him? Would you, would you let him stop playing football for a month? Cause that's a long time.


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[Assistant] So week 16, uh, was actually last year was also a Christmas game. So we had like three Christmas games. It was the Sunday was the 26th, right? So you got, let's just say for the sake of argument, you got the 26th and then I'm just looking at the, um, the schedule, the, when, when the,


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[Assistant] When the number one seed played for the first time.


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[Assistant] Be Sunday, January 23rd. You're talking like almost a full month of football. Yeah, that's a really, really, really long time to not play football.


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[Assistant] And I think he wants to be out there for his teammates and he doesn't want, but I mean, like you can't and again, it depends. Like, is it, you know, is it something where


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[Assistant] And I mean, I guess you could play in weeks, you could sit in week 16, week 17, hope you win one of them, but then then you have to come back and you're like, you have to, if you lose both, then you have to win week 18.


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[Assistant] Or else, you know, Dallas could potentially steal the division or San Francisco or Minnesota could steal the one seed. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] 81% for Shabai. Who's the other cowboys? Or is it the, I guess it would be the Vikings maybe? Could the Niners get in there? No, I don't think so.


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[Assistant] It's still a really good chance that the Eagles would get the ones he, you know, even if they lose too straight, but, um, you know, everything, if they lose out and the Cowboys went out, they, the Cowboys get the, no, the, the Vikings are the Vikings would be the favorite. Wow. Oh, um, so yeah, interesting.


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[Assistant] I don't know man, it's tough. I don't, I don't, I don't know how you handle it if you're, if you're Dixie or Yanni. I think you, what you want to do is just hope that, that, I would not play Jalen Hurts this week.


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[Assistant] Yep. All right. Let's, uh, let's take a break. When we come back, we will talk some more trends for this coming week.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah, baby. Nickmas, NVP, Russ, first Baker. Can't wait.


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[Assistant] Make sure you watch Nickelodeon. Pretty sure you stream on Paramount Plus. Check it out. If you're listening to the podcast, you're wondering what the hell I'm talking about. We had a commercial for the Nickelodeon game on the video show, youtube.com slash pick six. Okay. Are we, I think, I think we'll.


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[Assistant] We'll know more, we'll know more about what the Eagles wanna do, what they plan to do when we get, you know, a little bit closer to the weekend.


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[Assistant] He ain't even ruled out yet. And it's like, we don't, it's, it's not like it's a broken collar, but you know, like we don't, anyway, we don't know the extent of it, but yeah, I think, I mean, I would, I'd be, I'd be taking a peek at plus five 50 MVP odds too.


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[Assistant] Two years ago. That's true. I mean the Patriots are...


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[Assistant] The ending to that Patriots game, I mean, I feel so bad for Jacobi Myers. He's just been getting blitzed by everybody. Come on, man. Are you gonna show him something at practice that he wouldn't want to see?


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[Assistant] Your, your defensive, your offensive coordinator is a former defensive coordinator and your quarterback's coach or your quarterback's coach is a former special teams coach for your team.


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[Assistant] It feels like it feels what it feels like to me is one of those, um, Bill's games over the last like two years or so where it's like, Oh, bills are trying to come and take the division from Belichick and he's not going to let him have it. And then the bills come in and just take like, just like, no, we are, we have a better roster and we have the quarterback and you no longer have.


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[Assistant] Your magical Tom Brady powers. So give us the division. Give us the win. We don't care if it's in Fox or not.


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[Assistant] Could definitely see Joe Burrow wanting to make a statement in this game too.


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[Assistant] I think Joe Burrow can win the MVP easily. Like this is, this is a, Jalen Hurts is the, was the favorite, I guess.


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[Assistant] He, I, Jaylen Harts can still win it. Patrick Mahomes is the favorite. I don't think Mahomes has like distanced himself to the point that he should be minus 300. Like he's been, he's been very good. He's going to go to everybody's ballot.


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[Assistant] But both Josh Allen and Joe Burrow could.


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[Assistant] Just light up the final three weeks of the season. Steal the number one overall seed by virtue of their quarterback play.


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[Assistant] And if that happens, they will get the votes for MVP, particularly if Jalen Hurts doesn't play two of the next three weeks.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. We saw, I mean like a hurts, a hurts injury that is like fairly nebulous, completely flipped the whole thing, which is just pretty, it's just wild. Um, yeah, I would, uh, I would look at, I wish, I wish I got into burrow to win the MVP earlier.


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[Assistant] I'm probably going to get some more Josh Allen. I've got a little bit of that now. I think you could see very easily Josh Allen. I think voters want to give it to Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] And three just great weeks from Alan. He's playing much better, coming off the injury pretty well.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think voters would be interested in giving it to him. Actually, see, he had it at 8 to 1. Mmm. And Burrow had it at 8 to 1.


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[Assistant] I got some bagels at 12-1 to win the Superbowl or 15-1 to win the Superbowl.


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[Assistant] I feel, I mean, I don't know how good you can feel about it. They're playing great football. So I'm not, I'm not upset about it by any stretch of the imagination. There's seven and a half to one now. Um, if they smoke the Patriots.


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[Assistant] Is that, and what is, it's hard to remember what, when, when, when these games are specifically, is that game?


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[Assistant] I'm just thinking like locally for me. I mean, you'll get it locally, obviously, but the Lions play the Panthers on Christmas Eve. And what time is, I'm just, there's a whole


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[Assistant] So it's one of only three games in that one o'clock window along with the Giants, Vikings and Seahawks Chiefs that featured two teams at 500 records, 500 or better records. So yeah, it could make total sense. And if burrow, if burrow has a monster game on Christmas Eve that a bunch of people watch.


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[Assistant] Like, you know, you're talking about like, you're getting it all over the Northeast. You're getting it all over the Southeast potentially. Obviously all over, you know, big swaths of the country. Watch Joe Burrow light up Bill Belichick defense on Christmas Eve. I think his MVP odds will drop down to like two to one.


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[Assistant] Okay, you're the, you're the, uh, you're the experts on, you're the expert on the Pats. I, I, I, look, sometimes, you know, when your team stinks, I mean, you know, you know, uh, Jags and Jets Jags are four one and one against the spread over this Lawrence hot streak of six games.


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[Assistant] What a massive game for Jacksonville. It's a Thursday night game. They're at the Jets. It's also like a huge.


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[Assistant] Potential coming out party, I think for Trevor Lawrence in the sense that, you know.


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[Assistant] We know that he's been playing really well the last few weeks and everybody, everybody else might not know that he could come out and just really light them up. And, and, and, and I think sort of changed the national perspective of the Jacksonville Jaguars. But, but then again, the jets may slow them down.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, no, I didn't, I didn't mean to leave this, uh, my 2010 iMac won't can't object Chrome and so crashing completely. Uh, Kansas City. Talk chiefs. Sure.


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[Assistant] Chiefs, uh, Chief Seahawks, KC is 1-4-1 against a spreaded Arrowhead. That's unbelievable.


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[Assistant] Cause I mean, like, it almost feels like people are saying, okay, there's really no one else.


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[Assistant] Like just sort of like they're defaulting to my homes, which if that's the case, minus 300 is a very weird number.


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[Assistant] Yeah, at least I think in passing yards are passing touchdowns. He's completing her tongue.


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[Assistant] No, I agree completely. I think that's sort of the thing for me. He's, he's had like some huge highlight moments. They're 11 and 3. But.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's weird. I don't, it doesn't, it doesn't feel like, I feel like he, he should be minus 110.


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[Assistant] I think, I think that because Mahomes has won the MVP before, because the Chiefs are, you know, and we look at the Chiefs and like, you know, they barely beat Houston. They let Denver hang around. They lost to Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] They barely beat the, I mean, they've, they've just been involved in all these close games. You know, like, you know, they.


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[Assistant] And I'm just like, they've got like, I think two, they blew out the 49ers. That was a while back. Took care of Tampa a little bit. They lost to the Colts.


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[Assistant] I think that matters. Maybe, maybe, maybe that matters more in like my mind is, or like our minds as it is how we're like perceiving the team as a whole. Cause again, my home's just playing great. Yeah. But it's just not like, I mean like a three pick game against the Broncos.


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[Assistant] I don't know. There's something, there's something, it doesn't, it doesn't feel like, the eyes don't feel like a true reflection of what...


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[Assistant] Of what their performance has been and what, what, what we can expect.


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[Assistant] I would be inclined to take some of the plus money on the other players on the other on the other quarterbacks there. And then you hope that, you know, that you get, uh, you know, hurts.


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[Assistant] If hurts plays, if hurts is going to play that those odds will flip back again, I think.


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[Assistant] Because Hertz was the, Hertz was the, the likely MVP winner.


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[Assistant] I think, and remember these voters can put down three names. So even if somebody like, I mess around with Pete all the time, but I'm not like trying to rip Prisco, but like Prisco says, uhm, like I, I, Mahomes is my guy. I think Mahomes should win.


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[Assistant] In the past, he would have put down one name Mahomes and Mahomes gets one point. Now he can put down Mahomes.


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[Assistant] And he's probably going to say, I'm going to reward depending on how Josh Allen, Joe Burrow finished. Like I'm going to put one of those guys there. And then I, but hurts will get a lot of either second or third place votes from people who wouldn't vote for him anyway, which keeps you in the running. And there's going to be some people who say hurts this season was too dynamic, too awesome not to be rewarded with an MVP. Um,


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[Assistant] If you, if you missed the final three games, I think, I think it would be tough. But, uh, we do have...


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[Assistant] I mean the Bills at the Bears, I mean Josh Allen could go absolutely nuclear in that game.


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[Assistant] One o'clock games, man. So Sunday, it's Christmas Eve, one o'clock.


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[Assistant] Mahomes gets the Seahawks burrow at the pats and Alan at the bears. That is some spice for that MVP race. Cause the Eagles aren't until four o'clock and you know, if they, if they, if they win with Gardner Minshew, that's going to ding his case a little bit.


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[Assistant] Where, if, like, one of those quarterbacks can absolutely take over the MVP race with a monster one o'clock Christmas Eve performance.


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[Assistant] I think, I think voters really want to give it, I think most, a lot of voters would love to give it to Alan or Joe Burrow. And they'd be fine if we give it to her if he plays the rest of the season, but like Alan and Joe Burrow are


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[Assistant] Easy for voters to get on board with it, so it wouldn't be shocking at all if they like tried to.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you talk yourself into them, you know, the narrative that speaking of the bills and the bears, the bills have also not been great against the spread lately, have they?


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[Assistant] Two and six against the spread in their last eight games. What, um, would you lay the points there with the, uh, there's a lot of points.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, and yeah, they play a lot of front facing zone stuff. Maybe, you know, Frazier operates that like that could help. So don't feel as it feels is feels a freak.


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[Assistant] It wouldn't be shocking if like he backdoored it, you know, nine's a ton of, I mean, I think I'm kind of inclined to take the nine points with a home dog just because like this season underdogs have been hitting so.


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[Assistant] You know, even the Seahawks is like nine and a half. I mean, of course, am I worried about taking the nine and a half against my home's possibly lighting up this terrible, you know, the Seahawks even as terrible again? Yeah, of course. But, um, nine, I mean,


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[Assistant] You get, you get any kind of lead going in like the third quarter, maybe except for like 33 points. That would be, you can't, I guess, I guess the Colts still covered, didn't they?


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[Assistant] They held onto that 33 point lead to cover. Unbelievable.


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[Assistant] Hey, Jeff Saturday's a great coach. He's a good, he's not a good coach, he's a great coach.


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[Assistant] He's not a great coach. Yeah, exactly. You get the point. All right. Anything else on the futures? Trying to think with the Super Bowl futures. Some teams. Oh, what the hell? Really? See? All right. Look, I won't tell you this. I took and I said I got made fun of on the podcast for this last night. I took the Green Bay Packers at


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[Assistant] A hundred and one to win the, to win the NFC. Okay. Last night.


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[Assistant] Super Bowl now, 60 to 1 to 1 in the NFC after last night. I think a lot of people kind of hammered this around them around them and they don't control their own destiny at all. Can't even can't win and get in. But man, I mean, it's like hurts is banged up.


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[Assistant] The Vikings are vulnerable, clearly. The 49ers have Purdy. The NFC champions stinks. The Cowboys are beatable.


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[Assistant] And then if the lions, seahawks, giants Washington, like.


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[Assistant] And that's why I didn't, that's why we didn't take the, me and my buddy didn't take the, didn't take the Super Bowl either.


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[Assistant] Or the bills or the bangles are going to get slaughtered. Um, I did, Sully take a couple.


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[Assistant] Let's see what the, uh, I mean, I had the, uh, so I took the Packers 101 to win the NFC. I'm not going to say where I took it because I get in trouble, but, um, let's just say that I actually moved the line. Wow. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I got like, I went back and looked at it five minutes later, it was down to 60 to one before the game started. Um, then I took Packers chief Superbowl 250 to one.


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[Assistant] Like isn't like a, you know, exact or a, or a box exact. I guess it would be because you don't matter who wins Packers bills, one 90 to one Packers Bengals 400 to one and Packers Chargers 1200 to one. And then just because I was feeling frisky, I took the lion alliance Jaguar Superball match up a 1300 to one.


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[Assistant] I think so. Bill's eagles are chiefs. So you get the Bengals, 49ers, Vikings, Cowboys.


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[Assistant] The Chiefs, which is possible because they have the tiebreaker and get the number two seed.


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[Assistant] Would have to play each other before they could play the Bengals. So the Bengals are only have to play one of those teams and you'd basically like.


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[Assistant] The number one overall seed. I agree with you. I think that's a.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think it's, I don't see it anywhere. Um, I wouldn't mind that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they might just look like white, like, um, yeah. So the bingles have.


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[Assistant] Pats, are they, they're, they host the bills and then they host the Ravens. Where's the chiefs lost there?


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[Assistant] I don't know man, the Chiefs losing one of those games? I don't know, they have an easy schedule. Especially the Broncos at the Raiders.


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[Assistant] If the bills lose one to the... So if the bills lose to the bingles...


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[Assistant] Then the, I think, I think that makes the Chiefs really likely to get the one seat I think.


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[Assistant] Uh, if they win, yeah, if the Bills or the Bengals or the Chiefs went out, then the Chiefs get the one seed, so.


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[Assistant] But also, maybe more importantly, if the, back to your point about the field bet, if the spingles beat the bills,


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[Assistant] Then the, then the chiefs would be the one seed, the Bengals have moved to the two seed because they didn't have the tiebreaker over the bills by virtue of beating them head to head. If the Bengals went out and the, if the chiefs went out, Bengals went out and the bills go two and one.


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[Assistant] We would get that situation where the chiefs are one and the bills are three.


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[Assistant] With the possibility of, of, of the, of the VB two and three and the bingles being one, getting that by. And then you, yeah. Then what was the, what was the odds of the last time you saw it?


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[Assistant] Yeah. Okay. Uh, yeah. All right. So yeah, a lot of drama to play out.


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[Assistant] Heart surgery and then of course all this business in the AFC. We'll be back, uh, ready to quit football show tomorrow. Be back, uhm, every day for the rest of time.


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[Assistant] Uh, Sally, it's always a pleasure, buddy. Thanks for, uh, thanks for holding it down while my creme crashed. Thanks for, uh, the pod. Talk soon, man. For Sally, I'm Brinson. See you guys later.


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[Assistant] Celtics All-Star Jalen Brown is expected to be sidelined through the All-Star break with a facial fracture. That's according to the Athletic. He took an inadvertent elbow from Jason Tatum during Boston's win over the Sixers Wednesday night. Brown was set to meet with the Specialist today to determine the next course of action.


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[Assistant] Elsmore, the Golden State Warriors say that superstar guard Steph Curry will be reevaluated after the All-Star break. Curry suffered a partial ligament tear and is left.


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[Assistant] Uh, leg earlier this week against the Mavs, the Warriors have three games left before the break against the Lakers, Wizards, and Fippers.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Will Brinson. I'm your host. Super Bowl time. Got the birds.


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[Assistant] I'm also wearing glasses for some reason the last two days. I don't even wear glasses. I don't, so I don't know what's going on, honestly.


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[Assistant] I appreciate it. Uhm, somebody said I look less punchable when I wear these, so I'm going with you.


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[Assistant] I remember in 2017 being in Minnesota and like I, so John breach and I every year before the super bowl, we haven't been the last couple of years.


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[Assistant] But like we would take, we take a lap around the Superbowl around the stadium and like gauge the vibe, check out the prices, you know, look at the merch, you know, see what kind of weird jerseys we can find.


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[Assistant] I have never seen anything like, like that Eagles, Pat, Super Bowl. At one, it was like cold as hell outside. So everybody was get inside, but it was like this.


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[Assistant] Insane surge of just like, like rabid energy from Eagles fans because they, they, they, they knew what they were like, they knew what they had in front of them. They wanted it so bad. They're all hammered. They're just like chanting. It was like, it was, it was the craziest thing I've ever seen. I'm wondering like, is, is, is the energy in the city.


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[Assistant] Uhm, okay, the, I mean like, I think it's awesome, like I, if I didn't...


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[Assistant] If there weren't various, like, rivalries with, like, like, I'm a Braves guy, so, like, you know, inherently, like, I just can't like, you know, like, I, like, Of course! Yeaah. So, it's like, uhm, I respect that.


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[Assistant] Is I think going to be severely downplayed by both the Eagles and Andy Reed. Do you think?


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[Assistant] That they are full of it and that this is a huge, huge deal to AD Reid.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, yeah, he, I mean, like, you know, and I was, uh, you know, I was, I mean, I was a Panthers fan. I mean, I guess, I'm, you know, now I don't, like, I'm a little...


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[Assistant] I'm tired of them like whatever, but you know, it's like, like I remember, I just remember all like, you know, those, those years when Andy kept getting to the title game and it was like, I mean, the industry was just loaded back then and it was at the end of it. It did feel like it was almost.


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[Assistant] Not like he, he didn't want to move on, but it sort of was like both sides needed to move on. And you could see it the very next year when he got to KC, I remember being at the owner's meetings and he shows up and he's like,


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[Assistant] You know, at the end of that Philly run, he had looked, I mean, just looked, he looked exhausted. He looked exasperated and he shows up at the owner's meetings and he's wearing this Hawaiian shirt and he looks like he's got more, he's got some color to him and he, you know, he looks, he looked like re-energized. And I think, you know,


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[Assistant] I think the, um, so I kind of want to, I want to ask you about Sirianni and then sort of get back to the X's and those things, specifically the Super Bowl, because I think that, you know, Sirianni's press conference, like, I mean, it, you know, it wouldn't, this is why it's always stupid. We're like, well, he won the press conference. It's like, who gives a crap? Like, you know,


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[Assistant] Like I don't care if you could talk in front of like, I mean, I shouldn't care. Sometimes we do care, but like Sirianni, I think.


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[Assistant] The last two years, I mean, it really flies under the radar for whatever reason, but he is so good at adjusting like week to week game plans and attacking, like he gets the Steelers and the Titans. He knew they were going to load up the box to try to stop the runs. He just went up top on them early on. Do you think that Sirianni gets the proper level of respect nationally?


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[Assistant] Yeah. Like I, I mean, I think about it and Pete Carroll, obviously, you know, now more a little like silver Fox grandfathery type, but he's still like on the sidelines, you know, like and I see, I love coaches who are.


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[Assistant] And it depends too, like, you know, you gotta, you know, like a serious guy, you're probably gonna love or hate, but I love the fact that, you know, he's a Frank Wright guy. And when Frank Wright got fired by the Colts and the Eagles went in and beat the Colts, I mean, he's getting in, he's getting in their fate. Like, you know, he's like, look, I'm, you know,


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[Assistant] All right. So, uh, we're going to take a quick break, but I have a theory about Jalen Hurts. I want to run by you. Uh, we'll do, we'll, I'll toss it out there after the break next.


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[Assistant] Okay. So here's my theory on Jalen hurts.


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[Assistant] It's maybe it's not even a great thing. I don't even know, but I, but I threw it out on HQ earlier and I sent it to some people. I think because Jalen hurts.


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[Assistant] Was at Alabama in the national title game and pulled for two like halftime because they weren't winning and then in Oklahoma and was a big recruit.


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[Assistant] And has now been in Philly where he's a big deal when he got drafted because Carson Wentz was there, that whole thing, that we collectively forget how young he is. Like, like he's just been, he's been like, like,


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[Assistant] He's been like, you know, omnipresent in the foot, in the football world, football watching world is a, is a big figure with like two national powerhouse teams with like very high profile. And then in Philly, it feels like he should be 28.


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[Assistant] AJ Feely, Kevin Cobb, like it's like, just, just don't train with Andy Reed. Just don't train quarterbacks with Andy Reed. Like if you do, he's going to show up and you're going to-


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[Assistant] Some of us are trying to, you know, celebrate the big guy here. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe give us a break here. We can't jump out. Uh, all right. So on the Superbowl itself.


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[Assistant] I am curious because as we were talking about the exes of those stuff with Sirianni and how he likes to attack in different ways.


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[Assistant] What do you think the Eagles will try to do offensively against Spags? You know, knowing that, you know, what we saw from, uh, Spags against against Burrow in the championship game, like I think Roma mentioned it during the broadcast, but like out of nowhere.


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[Assistant] You know, he dropped into cover two, like randomly on a huge third down and burrow just burrows like didn't didn't know it, didn't see it coming. And so I will get lots of that from spags, different coverages, mix it up. Um, what do you think? Will the Eagles come in and like, are they going to try and run Jalen hurts out of jumps on jump street? Are they going to try and keep him from, you know, contacting the shoulder? Do they come out passing? What do you think they do?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you get that single cover to continue Brown and it's like, if you get them all up there and it's anywhere on target, it's, it's over. Like he ate the rookie quarterback and covered up that he's a grown ass man, uh, defensively.


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[Assistant] I'm really curious. I just, I mean, I've randomly thought I was doing like a video hit for CBS earlier and I just, we were showing clips and talking about.


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[Assistant] Mahomes is like, what are they gonna do? What do the Eagles do defensively? I sorta wonder.


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[Assistant] Do you think it's, cause I think Andy, knowing what happened in the ASU championship game where really only one time Mahalm scrambled left and had that throw where he re-injured his ankle, I sort of, I mean, not that they're going to cut off half the field or anything.


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[Assistant] But I think after watching that they will know that they don't want Mahomes running to his left and throwing if possible because of just the mechanics of it. So I sort of wonder if Philly might try and force his hand a little bit and like.


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[Assistant] Well, and he was, he had a really good year in Carolina last year too. And like, you know, I think part of it, I mean, I was, I was honestly surprised. I guess he wanted to come back to Philly maybe or come back to the area.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's a bad rules dude for playing with him in temple. Like that's, you know, it didn't work out in, in, in Arizona. Obviously he had a good last year, but sort of people wondered if it was.


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[Assistant] You know, like the, the Adrian Beltre syndrome where you, you know, you just blow up in the final year of your deal right before you get paid. But he proved it and then he proved it again this year after getting paid. Like he is, and he's so, he's very versatile in how he can attack. And I think the, you know, the edge rush, and this is again, like I go back and just looking at the roster before the season, it's like.


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[Assistant] This, this roster resembles the 2017 team and you took the pass rusher. Like the, like the, the pass rush has waves to it, just like it did, you know, when you had, uh, what, like Long and Graham and you know, the whole, the whole group in 2017.


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[Assistant] Cause that was, I thought they would go to McKinnon against the, the, um, the Bengals because of Mahomes' ankle. It's like, cause look, Pacheco is a really fun rookie, but McKinnon is like an elite pass, pass blocking running back. And.


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[Assistant] He's like, you know, if the Bengals get home and they're getting the homes, like you, you need somebody back there. And plus you, like you mentioned the screens, the dump offs, the quick outs. So I think you're sort of suggesting that Andy's like, knows at the back of his mind, like if.


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[Assistant] Ideally, he could have the McKinnon game be the last game of the season after putting like two weeks of Pacheco film out there.


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[Assistant] That's pretty diabolical if that's the case. And that does actually make total AD read sense.


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[Assistant] I mean, the, the guys, the guys are incredible to, I remember, uhm,


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[Assistant] They said Sammy Watkins, I guess, or the Chiefs, when you're ever just asking me like the sitting down at the table at the breakfast table, the owners being staying, being like, asking me, are you gonna use Sammy walks in the screen game? He's like,


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[Assistant] That's an interesting question, but I don't really think I'm going to tell you what I'm going to use it for. You are going to use it in the screen game. Uhm, alright, so what's your prediction for this game?


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[Assistant] You think we gave it back and forth or is it mostly like kind of like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, fun day. By the way, you can, uh, we also go by in a, in my family when, when like more than three of us get together, we, it's called brinsanity. So you feel free to use that. I like that. Um,


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[Assistant] I thought, yeah, it's not usually a complimentary, we don't have to get into who coined it. Uhm, the, uh, I would say that today was...


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[Assistant] It was a fun day, but like relatively slow, I thought compared to maybe years past. And, um, I, I do kind of.


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[Assistant] Miss, I'll say this, I kind of miss the Halcyon days of no legal tampering.


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[Assistant] Well, and the other thing with the Aaron Rodgers stuff too, is that because it's such a huge deal, like when it actually happens, I don't know if you were watching, like I had two TVs going, I had like ESPN, but obviously HQ on my third screen.


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[Assistant] Laptop, but like I had the, you know, the, um, I had the info network and ESP ago and they both have their specials. And it's like, there were moments where.


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[Assistant] Like Adam Schefter was just not even, like the five minute stretches where he's not even looking at anyone else. He's just on his phone and field day to be like, uh, Adam, anything else here? And just, and then there was one moment where like my girl follow on the NFL network answered her phone. I was like, I want TV. I'll call you right back.


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[Assistant] And then Tom Palacero tried to make fun of him by pretending to answer a phone call. But then Ian Rappawort actually answered a phone call and stood up and left and like unplugged his stuff. It was, it feels like everyone is, it's like every, you never know. Everyone's on high alert for this.


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[Assistant] I actually hadn't thought of that until like just like right before we started, but it makes a ton of sense. Or at the very least, if he's going to let the jets know, maybe he does it.


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[Assistant] After the Pat McAfee show, because everyone's going to tune into McAfee show. He's on there on Tuesdays, Tuesdays.


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[Assistant] Um, and then you, you know, you get like, I bet they have the highest numbers ever. If, if it hadn't been announced and even if it is, even if the deal breaks before then it's like, what is Aaron going to say about his time at Green Bay? What does he say about the jets? Like it's, it's a win win for McAfee on that, that Tuesday slot. Um, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was held out, uh, through then this is like, it's a guy who, you know, it's, it's a weird one. Like.


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[Assistant] He's, you know, he is a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's earned the right to take however long he wants. At the same time, it's like, do you not remember exactly what you went through 15 years ago?


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[Assistant] When Aaron Rodgers, I mean, when, when Brett Favre did the C Rogers, I couldn't, I mean, I don't know, man, like maybe, maybe a little quicker.


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[Assistant] So it's weird. I listed the Bears as a winner originally. Uhm, I was making fun of the Bears. Uhm, I got yelled at by some people for it. Uh, told me to shut up. It's fine.


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[Assistant] Uh, but the, uh, the, um, the, the bears were, I think a winner because they had all this cap space. They had the number one pick, as you pointed out, they trade down and get all those assets. It was, you have to kind of lump that into the sort of the start of the year. They also go and, um.


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[Assistant] You know, you sign, uh, Nate Davis, show up your offensive line. You, of course you pick up DJ Moore as we mentioned in that trade. You signed TJ Edwards and you signed Tremaine Edmonds. Now, thank you.


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[Assistant] It's weird because the bears are inherently better than they were.


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[Assistant] Before they made the trade, but they're inherently better than they were at 5pm on Friday.


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[Assistant] You're, you're doing okay. Like it feels like we're going to come out of this off season. The Bears are going to be the like off season champions and everyone, people will pick them as a sleeper to win the division. And then we're going to get down there breach and they're going to be like.


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[Assistant] Like, all right, you know, they, they still had a really bad roster. They sell the waste again.


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[Assistant] And I'll note too, um, with Tremaine Edmonds, like this is, I mean, I saw, I think it was, um, over the cap tweeted out, like it's, this contract is like basically fully guaranteed after.


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[Assistant] So I mean, he's getting all that money. He's only 25 years old. He's a super athletic, uh, linebacker who can fly across the field, sideline to sideline. And it's a really, really, really good fit in a Matt Biberfluss defense. And so I think maybe like, as much as we're knocking the off ball linebacker stuff, especially when you had Roquan Smith, you know, he was just kept, Roquan Smith had paid him. He was a great fit in there.


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[Assistant] It does feel like there's some synergy here between the coaching staff and the front office in terms of who they want to go out and get in the open market. Look, Edmunds, your first round pick.


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[Assistant] Buffalo wasn't going to give him this much money. It is a huge contract. The largest ever for an inside linebacker in the NFL in terms of for your contract. And so.


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[Assistant] As much as like the positional value is a little weird, you know, look, the Bears are better. They're spending money. It's anybody who lists free agency winners and losers is going to come away with the Bears listed as a winner because of just like the other thing too, I think, um, would have been nice.


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[Assistant] Mike McGlincy would have been a nice pick up for them too. Um, you know, it would have cost a lot of money, but you know, the Broncos ended up getting him. We'll get to that in a minute. But I think, um, you know, Chicago's addressed issues with their defense and their offensive line, uh, early on and added a ton of picks. So, uh, overall, you know, it's hard not to put them as a winner, Katie.


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[Assistant] Last year, Russell Wilson, right? Um, and if, if the answer is he's going to be last year, Russell Wilson, and you go out and you improve the offensive line, like what do you, what do you, and there's rumors that they might be willing to trade one of those receivers, whether it's Cortland Sutton, Jerry, Judy, or KJ Hamler. But like, if you're, if you're, if you're Sean Payton here, you got yourself a backup now to, I mean, I didn't think that Sean Payton was in love with Jared Stidham, but yeah, we learned something new every day. Uh, I guess so.


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[Assistant] Interesting. I do think though that like by going out and improving the offensive line, you already have the weapons there. You have the new coach and Sean Payton, Sean Payton and Breach. I think you pointed this out is like.


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[Assistant] It's a win-win for Sean Payton with his Broncos job because even if, if Russell stinks,


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[Assistant] Sean Payton's like, it ain't my fault. And now it's even more so the case because you've improved the offensive line. You have the weapons. You have the new offensive Sean Payton. You have the great coach in Payton. There's no excuse for Russell Wilson to stink. And if he stinks again in 2023, then it's simply Russ is washed and this is over.


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[Assistant] You're, I don't know what you do. I think you still have one more year after that where you kind of have to deal with the contract, but, um.


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[Assistant] No matter, like, if Russ is good, then he's the savior. If Russ is trash, then it's not, it's not Payton's fault. It's Russell's fault because I got him the, he's got weapons and I got him the offensive line improved in the off season. So, and I think too, you look at what Payton and, and the, uh, and the Saints did, uh, in, you know, or what they did in New Orleans, like they, they were,


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[Assistant] focused on having a really stout offensive line in front of Drew Brees. You always saw that. Again, they traded Jimmy Graham for Max Unger.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they, Tehran Armstead, they draft Ryan Ramchak, they had a, they, that was a key priority, especially when you have a smaller quarterback, because you don't want him getting pressured like that. You want him to be able to see and react. So I think, uh, Sean Payton, a winner, or if you want to be stringent about it, the Broncos could be a winner.


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[Assistant] I think Sean Payton and Michael Thomas were like, that was the beef with the same, like, I don't think they like each other. So like, I think, so I, I don't hate the idea, but I think it's unlikely just because of the, uh, the simmering beef on the stove between Payton and Michael Thomas.


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[Assistant] You can go back and look at the freaking statistics and look at the analytics and it's very, very obvious that Russell Wilson is one of the best play action passers.


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[Assistant] In, in like in football in the last 10 years, I mean, that's when he transferred out of NC state and went to Wisconsin, he ran that play action offense and he's so lethal in those deep bombs, especially when you're setting it up with the run that it makes a ton of sense and go back and look at the, you know, the last year, look at when drew breeze was in the same sort of.


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[Assistant] Age range as Russell Wilson is now. Sean Payton was run heavy as hell in New Orleans. Like he, he ran the ball a ton. I mean, they had Mark Ingram and Alvin Kamara. I mean, like this is, you know, they utilize the screen game and stuff like that, but it wasn't like it wasn't Breeze in like 09, you know, the back end of his career. I think he probably looks at Russell Wilson and says, we're not going to, we're not going to just.


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[Assistant] Let you throw it 50 times a game. We wouldn't run the ball, take some play action shots. And then if we need you to, you know, cook in a no huddle offense, we can do that. But, um, yeah, I think if Russ thinks that he's going to be whipping the ball around 50 times a game, he's sorely mistaken.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, I liked it. I mean, I like it. It was really expensive, but he's young and, um, you know, he has not been a consistent performer.


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[Assistant] Uh, throughout, throughout, you know, like he, he's been very up and down. He hasn't been, and he's still young, 25, been in the league five years, which is crazy. He's only 25. He's drafted at age 19. Um, at, uh, was he, did he play? Votek or is that his brother? Anyway, regardless, um, five years, never like, you, you, you,


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[Assistant] There's definitely ups and downs and so it will see how that translates on a huge contract like this, but he is a really good fit as an athlete in terms of the Matt Eberfluss defense. Sort of like a smaller Darius Leonard maybe.


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[Assistant] It is, it is interesting to note one, you're wearing all black. It appears Katie.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I think one of the things about this is, and look, I mean, you can...


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't think that you can definitively say that car is that much better than Jimmy Garabolo or that Jimmy Garabolo is that much better than Derek Carr. I think they're pretty even like.


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[Assistant] Like they, they played and coached, coached and played together in New England, familiar with the offensive system, knows how to run it will be, it'll be a seamless, it'll be seamless transition. You won't have to deal like, clearly they didn't think that Derek Carr liked to Derek Carr and Derek Carr's defense. He'd been dealing with a lot of different offensive systems in Oakland and Las Vegas. Um,


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[Assistant] I just, I'll take Jimmy G over Derek Carr. The one big knock here with Jimmy G is that he just hasn't stayed healthy in his career. And the Raiders now...


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[Assistant] You know, you're putting a lot of eggs in the basket of Jimmy Garoppolo where we saw with San Francisco.


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[Assistant] When Jimmy G went down, even with calcium in that system and like Nick Mullins and those guys, like they didn't win a lot of games with Jimmy G got hurt. So if you're the Raiders, you know, you have to at least, um,


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[Assistant] You know, that's a concern is like Jimmy G stay healthy because if he cannot, then you are suddenly going to find yourself.


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[Assistant] Uh, perhaps in a, uh, uh, an uncomfortable situation, like the back of a Volkswagen. That's for right. We'll send some all rats quote for those who don't know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, uh, Javon Hargrave. It's really weird. Like I feel like, I feel like every time we talk about Javon Hargrave, like I'm petrified I'm going to say Vernon Hargraves, um, just cause there's hadn't been that many Hargraves in fellow history. But yeah, I mean, look, Javon Hargrave has signed a four year, $84 million deal, uh, with 40 million guaranteed to join the 49ers. It's a huge contract. It was one of the early ones. Yeah. I mean, look, yeah.


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[Assistant] You know, just to put that into, into context with the 49ers who I think win here, you know, you have Eric Armstead.


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[Assistant] You know, when you had, you know, DeForest Buckner and Eric Armstrong, I mean, this is a, this is a beast defensive line for the 49ers. It's their strength. They're leaning into it.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, they lose, they lose some coaching, you know, lose to me, of course, but you still have.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, now in Steve Wilkes, a defensive coordinator who likes to be aggressive, who blitzes a lot. And when you have those bodies up front.


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[Assistant] You can just, there's just a lot of pressure that you could put on quarterbacks. Um, Javon Hargreaves second in terms of sacks and in defensive tackle rankings. Uh, I think the Eagles are a loser when you just, just look, I mean,


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[Assistant] Like, I mean, yeah, we were kind of trolling Billy in Slack, but, um, you know, the reality is the Eagles get to the Superbowl and you see this with the Bengals too, right? The Bengals had a great run. We'll talk about that in a second, but a lot of pieces from the Eagles.


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[Assistant] You know, you lose a guy like Hargrave who was a great signing for them away from Pittsburgh a few years ago. And now he makes bank after he dominates in your defense. I just think it's gonna be tough to replicate what the Eagles were on defense last year based on the early returns of their losses. I trust Howie Roseman to do a great job getting Jason Kelsey back is massive.


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[Assistant] That is a huge, huge gift to them because that's how the key is such a key factor to their run game.


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[Assistant] But I think yeah, if you're, if you're just looking at the first day of free agency and we're talking about winners and losers, the Eagles kind of have to be a loser breach.


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[Assistant] Was really efficient and really well done by Howie Roseman. Like they didn't go out and spend a ton of money on all these guys for the most part.


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[Assistant] Brought together this defense by finding value signings. And so you do kind of, you do have to kind of trust Harry Roseman to be able to do something similar to try and replicate what they have, but it's not easy. You just, you just can't pay all these guys on a, on a, on a defense that leads the NFL in sacks as a third most sacks in NFL history. It goes to the Superbowl. It's just not, it's just not possible to do it.


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[Assistant] So what you're saying is we got a Philly guy on here saying trust the process. Essentially. Okay, you're wrong.


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[Assistant] Like they lost two key pieces of the backend. Now can they replace them and, and, and figure things out and do they retain Pratt? Like I'm not saying that they, they stink.


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[Assistant] It's sort of like the Eagles, too. Billy, you and Billy were getting so mad. Well, and Von Bell, Von Bell was the other one. We didn't mention him. Yeah, Von Bell of the Panthers. I mean, the reality is when you lose...


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[Assistant] In that defense that Lou in a room of defense, you lose your two states to starting safeties. Like that's a big deal. But to your point, yes, they in theory will be able to replace him. I think it's just like on a scale of one to 10. What's your panic level for the, for the Bengals here?


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[Assistant] The Bengals lost several key players and therefore when you're building out winners and losers, the Bengals are a key loser or obvious loser.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what are we doing? And by the way, I think just really quickly, I think that, um, it's worth pointing out. I think I noted this. I don't know if it made the list, but a winner too is if you're a defensive tackle, like we talked about the Vernon Hargrave, the Vernon Hargrave settings, um, Javon Hargrave. See, I did it.


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[Assistant] Dude, I just knew I was just capable of doing it. Uh, yeah, the Jevon Hargrove signing, he got paid.


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[Assistant] Who was the other big defensive tackle signing that I'm somehow blanking on that got paid?


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's a, there, there are a couple like big differences.


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[Assistant] The defensive tackle market got reset and you see these.


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[Assistant] Big old contracts going to defensive tackles. And then you have guys like Christian Wilkins, Dexter Lawrence, um, uh, uh, Courtney Williams. Like there are all these younger defensive tackles where, you know,


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[Assistant] Yeah, for years, like obviously edge rushers get paid more than defensive tackles. The defensive tackles have gotten these big contracts. That's huge because one, it now resets the market and allows other guys to get paid more. And then two,


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[Assistant] It makes it a lot more difficult to franchise tag them because now your five biggest cap hits are going to raise up significantly. Whereas usually like Aaron Donald and then like a bunch of dudes below him. Now you have guys who are actually boosting this up and it will allow more of those guys to get the free agency. And so it's a big winner for the defensive tackle, uh, the defensive tackle men out there. As far as the chargers, like man, friend of the podcast, Austin Eckler, incredible dude, baller.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I was 28 again. I guess, was I doing this at 28?


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[Assistant] Like I don't think people understand how critical he is to making that offense go. Like he is good running between the tackles. He is a great pass, like an elite pass catching running back.


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[Assistant] Especially you think about like the way Kelly Moore maybe use Tony Pollard in a similar style. If they traded Austin Eckler, I think it would be a pretty big blow to that offense.


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[Assistant] You, you know, you're right. Like the, the way to get, like the, the, like the way is to get away. Like I, I've been a chart. I was a chart just ran for like a decade, like 15 years. It's hell on earth.


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[Assistant] Oh, the Chargers for Rivers is there. Yeah. That was my team. Go Tar Heels. Hey.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know if the Chargers would trade him in the division. Um, he would be unbelievable in an 80 read offense, like outrageous.


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[Assistant] You know, the Panthers traded away Christopher Caffrey last, last season. I don't know that they're in the mix for Eckler per se, but it's an NFC team and they do really, really need some targets and some weapons for.


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[Assistant] At the top of everybody's list because Buffalo has been trying to figure out a way to solve the running back situation there. And you know, Eckler in that type of offense would be dominant as well.


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[Assistant] Uh, Eagles sure would make some sense, I guess. I think anybody really with who doesn't currently have like a.


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[Assistant] Nah, I breached, breached it out of Eklund, would tear it up in South Beach, just like Britson, and I almost spit out my, it was comfortable long.


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[Assistant] Yeah. You know, um, the cool thing about Patrick Peterson, the Steelers is like, if you wanted to find out what Patrick Peterson thought.


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[Assistant] About going to the Steelers, you could easily do it, uh, whether you want to watch Brian McFadden on CBS Sports HQ or 24 seven streaming sports network, cbsportshq.com, or if you wanted to watch the all things covered podcast part of the CBS sports podcast network, you would get all of those answers answers because


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[Assistant] Patrick Peterson does a podcast with CBS cause he's Brian McFadden's cousin.


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[Assistant] I don't mind plugging other NFL podcasts in CBS, like with the first pick with our friend Ryan Wilson, where all things covered with Brian McFadden, Patrick Peterson, both very good podcasts. You should check them out. I think it was 14 million for two years and I see that just come out for Patrick Peterson.


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[Assistant] That's not a- that's fi- that's fine, I mean, you know, the, uhm...


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[Assistant] The one thing that, uh, I think was bandied about in terms of Peter, Pat P is when he went to Minnesota, they had him playing a lot more like sort of off man zone stuff instead of playing the pure strict man to man that he'd done for so long in Arizona. He had changed around a little bit when Wilkes got there.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, with, I think, anyway, the point being is that the style of style of defensive play that he did in Minnesota, if they move that over, if Pittsburgh uses the same approach with Pat P, I think it's a really good signing two years. He says, he says he wants to play two more years of the NFL, presumably then retire. I


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[Assistant] Uh, I mean, pretty easily. I'm not sure. Ryan Wilson's not here to, to dunk on us about the Hall of Fame situation, but, um,


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[Assistant] If they use him in that role, I think it's a really good fit. You know, and Mike Tomlin and Pat P feel like just like an easy combo to pair together.


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[Assistant] That's right. Uh, between, between all of us in primary fad, we have two Super Bowls.


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[Assistant] Sam Norris was really good in college and a former number three overall pick.


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[Assistant] He has the pedigree and he played for a Jets team that was just completely dysfunctional before the Panthers traded for him and that Panthers team was not exactly functional. I mean, you know, it's they had a bad off. I think it is possible.


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[Assistant] A lot of times I think it's under, Brady Quinn and I talk about this all the time, is


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[Assistant] The quarterback, the quarterback and the coach fit is almost like that's the most important thing there is. Like maybe, and I don't know, I'm gonna say the same thing.


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[Assistant] I mean, two of the five worst coaches in the last like 20 years, right? Matt Ruhl and Adam Gase. There he is. He's got a baby face. I think Donald's a friend of the podcast too, actually. After he got drafted he came on.


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[Assistant] I think there's one coach who could potentially get the most out of.


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[Assistant] And I don't say this is like, like Andy Reed couldn't do it. I just think this system where it's.


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[Assistant] You are running a lot. You are bootlegging out.


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[Assistant] If you can get Cal, if you can get Brock, if Cal State can get Brock Purdy to play at a level to get the 49ers to the industry championship game.


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[Assistant] I would not discount the idea that Sam Darnold could have some kind


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[Assistant] You know, rejuvenation or like, you know, like whatever you want to call it now in a perfect world. Say Donald never sees the field because Trey Lance is good.


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[Assistant] I also think this is probably a net positive for.


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[Assistant] Oh God, we are worried that Brock won't be ready. We need to sign somebody who we know. So I, yeah, and that's a good point Victor makes. Uh, Steve Wilkes switches from Carolina to San Francisco to be new, uh, same Donald in Carolina.


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[Assistant] Are the Niners, the, the, uh, what, a pathers west? Is that what's going on here? You get McCaffrey and save Donald. Oh God. I'm just trying to make.


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[Assistant] You have Ryan Taney hole there, but he's probably there for one more year. You draft Malik Lewis in the third round. Derek Henry is reportedly on the trade trading block. You got rid of AJ Brown. Your number one wide receivers, Traylon Burks, Robert Woods is gone. You know, you also Hooper's a free agent. Okay, I am. I'm having a.


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[Assistant] Now, most of the starters on defense look like they'll be sticking around, but breach, man, I am having a hard time.


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[Assistant] And look, I will say too, like with that defense, just the way it's constructed and Vrabel who I think is a really good coach.


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[Assistant] And you have Tani Hill and Henry and maybe the offensive line is better than we think just to come together somehow. It is possible that.


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[Assistant] This team could just win a bunch of ugly games and steal that division. Having said that, when you look at the offensive depth chart, you're like, this is not a.


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[Assistant] It's not a feasible path to winning that division or like, or being any good.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and Jonathan Smith very good at run blocking as well. So that helps with what Arthur Smith wants to do. I would say like the Falcons, you could probably throw it as, as winners of day one too, if you wanted to, because they go out and get your boy Jesse Bates as well. Um, you know, uh, yes, uh, Josh, Julie points out she's got a new left tackle.


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[Assistant] It dropped, uh, I think I had Jawan Taylor on my list of winners. I didn't make it, but like, did we get, uh, eighty, forty? Yea, four years, eighty million. Four years, eighty million dollars. Good for him. Yea. What does Melada Brown want? I mean, obviously more, but I mean, like,


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[Assistant] We've seen this. They have done this over the last few years with the one exception being that Super Bowl, the Super Bowl loss to the Bucks where they just got at home, just got manhandled and the offensive line was really bad. They have done a good job of churning these sort of offensive linemen, replacing us, particularly the tackles. Um, and


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[Assistant] Identifying like or later Brown wanted out and they were aggressive and going to get him. Joe Tooney.


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[Assistant] They've done a good job of their aggression in terms of the trade in the free agency market on the offensive line and being able to identify guys who would succeed in their system.


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[Assistant] It's not unreasonable to suggest that Jawan Taylor, who was, I believe, a second round pick with the Jaguars a few years ago.


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[Assistant] Could ultimately be a really good player for the Chiefs if you trust Brett Veach, trust Andy Reed and I definitely trust those guys.


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[Assistant] Speaking of bears. Cocaine bear? Did you see Elizabeth Banks last night at the Oscars?


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[Assistant] Elizabeth Banks. I was like, Oh man, I feel that. Like you're on stage. She's like, I'm sorry. Uh, but yeah, she had the bear. She's like, if not for visual effects, this is what the bear would have looked like. It was pretty funny.


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[Assistant] No, I'm ice man. I'm, I'm like, I've sort of written off the year as far as picks cause I'm not overback on anybody at this point.


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[Assistant] Brady Quinn was like, um, was cast yesterday on the, on this podcast, of course. So the Brady Quinn football show was, uh, casting, um,


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[Assistant] Chris, uh, I guess Scrooge. We're doing Scrooge. Like, uh, Breach would be Tiny Tim.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we were trying to decide like, uh, is, is Pete, am I Scrooge or is Pete Scrooge?


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[Assistant] And I said that Wilson could possibly be Scrooge and Brady was like, Wilson's like the nicest guy. I don't know why you guys say he's so grumpy. I'm like, cause he's just nice to you. He's like kissing your ass.


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[Assistant] Who would you be? Would you be, would you be uh, Scrooge or would you be like, I don't know. I know what it was. I was like, I was like, can you imagine how terrifying Pete would be as a ghost of like a Christmas past if like Pete showed up and like,


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[Assistant] We got some weather this weekend. A lot of weather when you're making your bets that's coming to play.


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[Assistant] There are 8 games I think affected on the 9 if you count.


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[Assistant] A Thursday night game that we don't talk about because we record on Thursdays and this goes into the podcast machine on Fridays. Uhm, highly recommend you go to cbsports.com and check out.


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[Assistant] I've got it open, but I don't know what it's actually called. Uh, I mean, it just, in a, just Google NFL, NFL week 16 weather, RJ, Chris towers and Doug Claussen did a great job of breaking down the games from a betting and fantasy perspective that are coming to play. I mean.


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[Assistant] It's going to matter a ton this weekend, right? Obviously from like fantasy, it's going to be a huge difference maker because


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[Assistant] You're gonna, you're gonna make decisions based on some of these weather matchups. Like, I have a Jeanner Smith.


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[Assistant] And I could pick up Gardner Minshew, who's going to be playing indoors. Like that's the, I mean, that's the move to make, right?


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[Assistant] So would you go Gardner or Gina Smith? That's, that's not a long way to way of asking that efficiency question.


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[Assistant] But yea, check out that, check out that guide. It's a complete guide to how games would be impacted by the winter storm, the bomb cyclone. There's gonna be some, I love, I love, I love weather games. Uhm, I don't love- I hate them.


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[Assistant] What I don't love is this, this, uh, this like every three years where, like,


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[Assistant] Every game lands on like Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. Like, okay, it'd be like an 8.15 game on Christmas Eve. Come on. Show a little respect to Jesus, Goodell.


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[Assistant] RJ tuned for me to five and one and Pete one three and one. You guys are still, uh, 10 for RJ or 11 for Pete above 500. I'm five below 500. I would like to get my best bets above 500 for the year. That'd be my goal. That's my.


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[Assistant] My Christmas Eve resolution or New Year's, New Year's resolution, whatever you want to call it. We'll start with Giants and Vikings. Vikings minus four over under 48. The last time we saw the Vikings, Pete.


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[Assistant] They were, well, they were down 33 points at halftime to Jeff Saturday in the Colts on a Saturday.


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[Assistant] Jeff Saturday, by the way, fun fact, only coach in NFL history named Saturday to give up a 33 point lead on a Saturday.


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[Assistant] Do you think the Vikings can get over that? You can roll that momentum into a good game here. No. Ooh.


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[Assistant] I mean, you don't, that's not sustainable or whether it's even if it's nine or no, it's not sustainable. So.


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[Assistant] It's not like we're saying the Vikings are bad, clearly they're good. They've got, they've got, Kirk Cousins is playing really well, Justin Jefferson is a monster, probably going to win off into Player of the Year.


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[Assistant] You know, Dallin Cook's having a very underrated season. Garrett Bradbury, my guy, played well.


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[Assistant] Defense not so great, but like this, you can't, you just can't win that many one score games without biting you in the ass at some point. The Giants love to keep things close. If you're giving me four points to the Giants, absolutely I'll take it. I think people will look at the records here and lean on the, lean on the, uh, the Vikings. But as Pete mentioned, the pass pressure for the Giants came out timid.


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[Assistant] So I'll take Giants too, not a best bet. Falcons or the Ravens? Ravens minus seven over under 36. Desmond Ritter. Snoop Huntley.


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[Assistant] I, it's hard to imagine 21 point, like the Falcons like love to drag people down in terms of plays run too. So it is hard to imagine a bunch of plays happening. I mean, 35 and a half. I would, I think I would lean towards the under there too, but I don't know how you can take. That's so freaking low.


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[Assistant] Uh, Snoop Huntley, by the way, officially starting, uh, per John Harbaugh.


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[Assistant] Oh, 20 mile per hour win? You mean we have to run the ball 75 times each? Sounds fantastic. I don't think we... I mean...


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[Assistant] What do you, what are the, I don't know if we haven't, they're probably not up yet because it's just, we recorded this on Thursday, but what do you think the player props will be for past attempts?


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[Assistant] You have questionable situations at quarterback like this and you could end up getting, you know, fumbles.


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[Assistant] Against the Vikings at, uh, Metropolitan Stadium. How was, how was that as a stadium, Pete?


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[Assistant] Can you imagine being in there with, like, what if that roof had crashed, like, in, in like, during a game? That's like one of the underrated, like, sneaky, uhm,


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[Assistant] Like, there's been a billion bizarre moments in the NFL, but like, I remember, I just remember it was like Jay Glazer comes on from Fox and he's like, we've got video of the roof collapsing in the, in the metrodome from the snow. And you see it and you're like, Oh my God. Can you like imagine if that game had been going on?


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[Assistant] Uhm, 10 straight games for the Falcons lost in cold weather. Uh, nothing here for me.


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[Assistant] Saints at Browns. Browns minus two and a half.


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[Assistant] Well remember, we've seen stretches like this in Cleveland where, like, it doesn't matter if you've got Dan Marino.


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[Assistant] The, uh, I wish we had the, uh, I'll try and find it before the cheese game, but the, uh, the photo of Pete.


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[Assistant] Uh, covering the, uh, for CBS Sports HQ, covering the Chiefs playoff game in the snow.


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[Assistant] It's weird how Kansas City, like, I don't think, I mean, I don't think you generally think of Kansas City as like a place where it's good. I don't know, I mean, it's not like, it's not like Buffalo. I don't think of Kansas City as a place that gets really, really, really cold.


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[Assistant] Cause I, there was, there, I remember there's a three game stretch in late November, like two or three years ago where we got crazy weather in Cleveland. You can't do anything. And I think like they built that stadium. This is very Brownsy. They built that stadium, like.


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[Assistant] Alright. Bingo's at Patriots. Little bit of weather here as well. Patriots are ice cold, speaking of weather.


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[Assistant] And the Bengals, the Patriots are just like, I don't, I don't know. I mean, it's crazy, man. The Patriots are a poorly coached football team.


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[Assistant] And it's not surprising because they employ Matt Patricia as their offensive coordinator, Joe Judge as their quarterbacks coach, but it's humiliating that two guys who are Belichick, like protégés,


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[Assistant] Could, I think, Pete. And I'd be curious to know, we can kind of get into the MVP stuff when we get on the, on the cheese and talk my homes, but I mean, Joe Burrow goes in here on Christmas Eve at one o'clock and the Bills, uh, Patriots, excuse me, the Bills, Bengals, and Chiefs are all playing at one o'clock. Joe Burrow goes in here and lights up Belichick.


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[Assistant] Like this, this game will probably be, uhm.


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[Assistant] With the amount of time that was on the clock, like a handoff is, unless he jailbreaks it to the house.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like Cincy-3 as the best bet as well. It's at, uh, minus 3, minus 115 on, uh, Caesar.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Belichick, you know, we're onto Cincinnati means you're about to get onto Cincinnati. Like Cincinnati is about to be onto you, buddy. Like the Bengals are playing some great football. Joe Burrows got a good record in cold weather games. I think, I really do think.


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[Assistant] So, so if he played, if he plays one more game this year and they win, let's say they lose the count, if they, what has to happen?


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[Assistant] Rather than talk about why I'm bad luck or tailing or why I think the bagels will win, walk me through what your headspace is because you're an MVP voter.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying reveal your vote, but like, you have to list three names. It's different this year. Five. No, no, five. Five for MVP, three for everything else. That's a lot more work, by the way. Uhm, what, uhm, what is your,


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[Assistant] No, the problem is like these quarterbacks are all going to have like good enough stretches to close out the season.


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[Assistant] So do you think that the Buffalo Cincinnati game will knock out one of Burrow or Allen?


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[Assistant] If the Eagles win their last three games without hurts.


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[Assistant] I'm saying, I'm saying that I think it comes down to what team gets the one seed in the AFC. If, if Hertz doesn't play.


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[Assistant] If hurts plays one more game and looks fine, he's probably going to get it.


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[Assistant] MVP is good for me when it comes to contract talks. Lions minus two and a half at the Panthers over under 40 or Pete down to 43 and a half. Uh, weather in Carolina is going to be kind of nasty, but I don't, it's not going to be like Northeast weather. Just be gross. Um, back to back.


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[Assistant] I have no idea what to do with this game. It's a great point of the Jetson. Like the lines are just good. I really wanted to get in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] The only concern is now I really want the Packers getting the playoffs now too. So I don't know whether I want the Packers or the Lions or like the happier feel good story. Uh, the Packers with Aaron Rodgers getting in would be potentially financially much more interesting for me.