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[Assistant] To me, there's a thing there, but he's good in all areas. And I think you really just can't go wrong, you're gonna get a really awesome starting caliber player, who I think has some slot value to go along with that as well. Uh, so, yeaah, to me this is kind of one of the safest picks at the corner position in the whole game.


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[Assistant] There's a part of me here too where, like the Eagles, I don't know, maybe I should have gotten a receiver first. Cause you're a little worried that maybe one of the other teams could take a receiver. I don't know, that popped in my brain. But yeaah, I think this is like,


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[Assistant] Pretty slam dunk. And this is where I'm gonna go with Garrett Wilson from Ohio State down there in New Orleans.


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[Assistant] What, third wide receiver off the board? Yep, uh, let's see, it's a three, it's fourth receiver, right? Uh, no, third, you're right, it is third, yeah, third receiver off the board. You know, again,


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[Assistant] He's, like, not my favorite. I understand that there's a lot of people in the NFL that really like him. You know, Michael Thomas wasn't your favorite. No, he wasn't. You're right. You're right. Exactly right. Uh, yeaah. It's an Ohio State guy. But I think it's just a real need. Like, they need a difference maker.


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[Assistant] You know, and even Michael Thomas, as good as he is, he's not the guy that can blow the roof off the building, right? He's not that guy.


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[Assistant] He's the, hey, 10 yards over the middle, 8 yards over the middle, 12 yards over the middle. Is that Garrett Wilson or no? No, Garrett Wilson's more of like, you know, hey, we hit Michael Thomas on that and now they're starting to collapse on him. Hey, go deep down the middle for 70, see you later. You know, that's what he is. I mean, he does have speed, give him speed, sweep, slant.


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[Assistant] You know, he can run away from people and be a big play guy that way. They don't have that. To me, this is definitely one of the glaring needs on their roster. They gotta get some...


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[Assistant] Going back to what we talked about before, I just don't know who it is or what the team is or who loves...


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[Assistant] Malik Willis to that extent, that they're gonna go get him there.


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[Assistant] So, I am going Malik Willis to 20 to Pittsburgh. It's one of those that kinda just goes...


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[Assistant] Out of Pittsburgh seems to never really hide their intentions sometimes with guys. Right, last year it was, uh, Najee Harris. Exactly. They kind of let you know all year.


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[Assistant] You know, I think about Mason Rudolph being drafted a quarterback. Everybody said Mason Rudolph was one of the Steelers. I remember watching the pro day and Mike Tomlin was right behind him and they're going to go there. Joshua Dobbs came out. They were doing the same thing. He's Pittsburgh, looking for Pittsburgh in the mid rounds. You know, Mike Tomlin was there at the pro day. Turned on the freaking pro day this year from Malik Willis. Who was the first guy you saw? Oh, there's Mike Tomlin. Maybe he calls dips.


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[Assistant] I don't know here. It's just one that I just think they're gonna make the move right off the bat. Here's my only issue and my only thing I thought about with the Steelers. I thought, man, they are the Steelers.


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[Assistant] When they need a center, they do leg drafting centers. And I'm not going to lie, I thought about one of the names I wrote down on my first draft is Linderbaum from Iowa. I just wonder, are they going to just go back to Webster and Marquis Palancy and go, let's start the new era with our center. I mean, they are that way, the Steelers.


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[Assistant] But ultimately, I just feel like this is the style of football they want to play. Malik, Willis, movement of the quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, Mike Tomlin played defense, we run the ball, my quarterback scrambles and makes a few plays to keep first downs alive, saves my defense, you know.


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[Assistant] Play action pass, throws bombs to chase Claypool. I think that's the style of play they want to play. I'm going Malik Willis at 20 right there. If they do that, is he good enough? I don't think so. To play this year. I don't think so. I don't, I wouldn't be surprised if he still got on the field this year.


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[Assistant] That'll give me a glean and if he gets there just to see the progress. But like we've talked about, he's raw. There's no doubt about that.


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[Assistant] And he's really big time talent. I like his motion and he makes some wow throws.


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[Assistant] That he can do him as easy as anybody you're gonna find. Where you just go, holy shit, that was an unbelievable throw. And was he twiddling his thumbs and like not even caring here and through that? Like he didn't just do it easy. And that's what you love. And I know there's people that see that. So, uh, I'm gonna go Pittsburgh, Malik Willis.


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[Assistant] I think, you know, again, it's New England, their old school, their thoughts here. I don't know. I mean, New England's the king of trading down. Do I see, could I see New England trading down here? Of course I can. I mean, that's what they always do. I mean, they're the kings of like, wait, if our need doesn't match up the value, they're not gonna reach and make a pick. They're gonna trade down.


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[Assistant] And just go from there. They believe their board's gonna win out eventually. And that's where they're gonna, they're gonna really strike


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[Assistant] I think he believes in playing the numbers more than let's play the numbers on one guy, right? I think that's where he believes on it. And then especially, they have great belief, which they should, in their process. And they're like, Bill of all people, in my opinion, is not gonna be the guy to go, like kinda like you said early in the draft, where he's gonna go,


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[Assistant] Where we go, well, some teams, if you just like the guy, just take him. So what? It's four spots too early.


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[Assistant] Bill's like, four or five spots too early, I feel like for Bill. He's like, that's too many for me. We're going to trade down. That's just, this doesn't match up. He's, they're, they're big that way. But if they do stay, you don't, Trevor Penning, Trevor Penning, Northern Iowa tackle, Northern Iowa tackle, big athletic.


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[Assistant] You know, I wish he was a hair more aggressive like we talked about, but got all the measurables and tools of being a first round pick. I don't know if I expected all these guys to go off the board this early. It's just kind of way it fell, you know, for me as I went through the process here. But yeah, offensive line play was down a little bit last year and I think they get this guy here and.


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[Assistant] You know, it allows them to get their best five on the, on the field. I don't know what else matches up to me to make sense here. I don't think they're going to go Derek Stingley from LSU. I don't think that's their type of pick.


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[Assistant] I mean, Mac Jones got hit way too much last year. They were not as dominant in the run game. They didn't pass protect nearly as well as they had the years before that. He needs a little more time than most quarterbacks, right? He needs a cleaner pocket. No question. And then you got Trent Brown on a one year deal. It's iffy.


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[Assistant] You know, you just don't know what to get from Trent Brown. So I mean, this is, protects your future, gives you depth, gives you everything you want. Yeah, but I won't lie. This is one of the harder teams to figure out what I felt like they were going to do in this draft. Next up, the Green Bay Packers. Here we go!


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[Assistant] I, they, they, you're right, and we're going receiver. It's just, it's too obvious, and to me this is where, like...


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[Assistant] And a receiver that they know can come in and hit the ground running. There's guys here that of course I think are more talented than I would want to have. But they gotta be a little bit on the


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[Assistant] Gotta have a guy that can help us. Like, we can't be like, oh, we think this guy is gonna be three years down the road, the best one. They, to me, have to arrow in a little bit. We need a little bit of urgency here.


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[Assistant] Alright, and that's where I go Chris Olave. Olave to me is, you know, one of the most well-rounded wide receivers. He can do everything. Incredible route runner, you know, can go deep.


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[Assistant] Seems really well schooled and nuanced and understands, you know.


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[Assistant] Roger doesn't trust you unless you run the routes exactly the right way and we're on the same page. Olave's that guy to me. Has a little bit of like a Devontae Adams feel too. Oh, we can put him in slot cause he's a great route runner, do all that. We can put him outside and he can win one on ones. You know, it might not be, oh, whoa, he's taking the flying down the field and all of that.


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[Assistant] But he's gonna be really good and dependable and an awesome football player for a long time.


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[Assistant] Here we go. Derek Stingley time. Alright? He's finally off the board. Finally off the board.


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[Assistant] Listen, I know a lot of people think yeaah is top 10, top 15 pick for sure. You know, there's a part of me, yes, you know, we talked about Seattle.


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[Assistant] I don't know, is there another team on here that maybe does that? Maybe? Even though I think it's realistic to think that this could happen, where it's like it comes up and people are gonna go,


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[Assistant] Wade, we had a pretty good board grade on Stingley, and oh man, he's there.


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[Assistant] We can't pull the trigger. I could, I could see that happening. I mean, we've seen that happen in years past with DBs especially and all that. Uhm, yeaah. So, I'm going Derek Stingley there. There's a huge need, I think, on their football team at the corner position.


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[Assistant] Again, did I think about, you know, maybe a guy on the edge or somebody like that for Arizona Cardinals? Yes, I did a little bit. But I thought just the need at the corner position was more than anything. And that's where I go with Stingley. As Sally's viewed, they're a team that seems to be into


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[Assistant] The Isaiah Simmons freaky, Rondell Moore. Oh, this freaky guy, right? I just feel like they're the team that would take the chair. Robert Kim DiCci originally. Thank you. Pete just said that one. Exactly. That's my point. I feel like they're the team that'll be a little bit like he's there. We got to take him.


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[Assistant] We've been watching him since high school, when he was the number one high school corner. I'm just having fun.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you think, because people won't, people think it's just too late.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. Everybody, I know. Everyone has them top ten. Everybody's got them top ten. I get it. You have them top twenty-three. I just want us to keep sitting here and going, who?


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[Assistant] Who in the top ten? Like, I don't think the Giants are gonna roll the dice on Derek Singly. Nor do I think the Jets are. In a beer where it's like, you got all these picks and you're the Jets and you got a chance to do it.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I don't know, I just don't look at it that way. The Texan's at three. I, no.


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[Assistant] You know, the Falcons at eight, all the needs they got, the best player on their defense is AJ Terrell, he's a corner. They're gonna do that again? I mean, him and Grady Jarrett are the two best players on their defense. So, that's where I just go, everyone goes top ten, top ten, and I just wanna go, where? I just...


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[Assistant] What team? The Panthers at 6? Are they gonna take Stingley after they just tuck a corner in the top 10 last year? And they got corners all over their roster?


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[Assistant] That's where it just, not only, listen, I know the player, and I know some people, I just look at it and go, it doesn't really make sense to me, to where he goes in the top 10. I guess that's where I push back a little bit. Alright, you have him going top 23 though. Top 23? And listen, I'm rooting for the guy. I'm rooting for the guy, I know.


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[Assistant] And I respect the family and all of that too. And again, hey, with the Cardinals, I thought about PassRusher like I said. You know, does a boye mafe go here?


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[Assistant] That's where we're going. We're going to offensive line. Offensive line's an issue for them. Uh, uh, period.


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[Assistant] You know, again, defensive line, you can look at that there, but I think they got enough bodies and things there to why I look at it. Their team is built around their quarterback.


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[Assistant] Their CD Lamb, they want to play that style of football. They were unable to run the football last year and open up holes at all. And you, we talked about it a lot, right? The trickle-down effect. I didn't think the offense is really all that great and creative unless the run game was working. The pass game was not good enough to kind of stand alone by itself and get it done.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I just look at that and go, yeah, I think that's a pretty big need for this football team. Zion Johnson from Boston College is slam dunk, really good, high floor, pretty high ceiling.


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[Assistant] And like instant plug and play, already played in a pro style offense up in Boston College and you can hit the ground running there and feel really good.


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[Assistant] The Buffalo Bills, I mean of course it's a really good roster.


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[Assistant] Again, they got, I think a lot of defense alignment as is. They're okay there. I don't-


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[Assistant] You know, offensive line has, you know, come to my brain here with them a little bit.


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[Assistant] Corner is probably the other thing I look at. You know, offensive line, they signed some free agents during the year to where I just, that's what got me off that. They're okay there.


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[Assistant] Corner, I do think I look at that and go, that could be a real possibility here. You know, Daxton Hill.


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[Assistant] Contract dispute though, right? Right, right. So there's the squabble. I did think about Daxson Hill from Michigan here, cause he could be that guy. Nickel safety, do all those type of stuff. You know, Andrew Booth, one of those corners from Clemson corner. I thought about that, but here we go. I got a little curve ball.


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[Assistant] And this is a little bit because of, I've heard this too, Brice Hall.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Iowa State running back. Off the board. I heard there's, yeah. So a little love affair.


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[Assistant] Through the grapevine up there in Buffalo that I've heard that they like Breeze Hall a lot. So I'm gonna kinda go here with...


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[Assistant] It's not totally off the rails here to go with this guy for what there are as a team. You know, they're going to.


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[Assistant] Throw the ball, throw the ball, throw the ball, throw the ball. You're going to start playing too much defense. Ooh, here's a draw play to Breece Hall. Your safeties are 30 yards deep and now you're going to have to tackle Breece Hall 30 yards down the field and he's got three rockets up his ass. I can see them going that route.


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[Assistant] Oh, you're down the field worried about Josh Allen throwing lasers. Here's a dump off screen to Breeze Hall. Uh oh. Watch out. He's got 40 yards of free space to run around and get going here. So.


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[Assistant] This one's a little of, yes, off the radar, but also hearing a little bit and going, yeah, I can see this makes sense. I can see it. It does make sense a little bit.


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[Assistant] Uh, so, and they're a team, and again, like I said, you look at offensive line, I think they did enough in free agency. The secondary thing is the question to me, and that's to me what it'll come down to. Breece Hall or somebody in the secondary. Got it. And they thought they had what?


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[Assistant] That's my cup of tea. But they want a guy that's a little bit more of a real thing in the pass game. And that's to me. Walker is like, he's caught, he like, saw four balls in his whole time in Michigan, like state. He never, he never, he has no pass game.


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[Assistant] Breeze, you get to see a lot of it. You know, we smooth and can run routes out of the backfield. And that is his cup of tea. And that makes sense for what they want to do there in Buffalo.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I go back to offensive line here. This is where I really looked at them this way. You know, we got Robert Woods. You know, maybe they're a team that could be in the wide receiver market. I don't know, just with Rable, John Robinson, New England tie. I think they'll look for more value at the receiver in some other round. You know, when you get, you got Woods and AJ Brown already. Um, you know, D-line, D-line's awesome. I mean, they're amazing.


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[Assistant] Middle linebacker, uh, went through my brain. They don't need safety. They don't need corner, really.


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[Assistant] So I went back to the old line. That's what they are. I mean, that's who they want to be.


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[Assistant] Then, you know, there's some need there, as far as interior, O-line.


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[Assistant] And right tackle. You could kinda go either way there in that conversation. And that's where I'm gonna go Kenyon Green from the Texas A&M. Guard. Guard. Kinda fits both of those up. You know, we talked about like, he played tackle in college, he's got all the measurables, and is capable of doing that. But yes, I think ultimately, he's ready for guard right now.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe they're going, wait, we got him a guard now and we actually do think there's potential he can be our starting right tackle, you know, maybe two years from now. I could see that being the plan with this guy. So there's versatility as far as what he can do.


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[Assistant] Right away in year one, and I do think you're getting, uh, really a guard that's really more talented than Zion Johnson. Just hasn't got to play there the whole time and, you know, just, uh, is a hair more raw, but big time talent.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the Buccaneer, you know, I mean, you know, again, I mean, I was like, I don't know, Wide Receiver? Are they gonna go Wide Receiver here? I don't know. I mean, they're just gonna, you know, you think about O-Line, would they do something like that and try to...


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[Assistant] You know, add to the fact that they, you know, lost a guy or two or lost two guys. They lost their two guards. Right. Right. So that, that, but they did trade for Shaq Mason.


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[Assistant] And got him there to fill one of those holes. Uhm.


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[Assistant] I don't think there's anybody there worthy of that pick, interior o-line, except for one guy. And they might be able to do this, because their team is so good, like you're talking about.


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[Assistant] Is, I almost did put Tyler Smith from Tulsa on there.


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[Assistant] Tyler Smith is, he played Gar, a tackle at Tulsa.


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[Assistant] He is made for guard, and I don't know, did you do a line with me that day? No. No, Tyler Smith was one of my fun watches, like he was one of those guys, I didn't make him a top 5 or 6, but he was the next guy, and I said, oh my gosh.


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[Assistant] You know, just you want to talk about Mahler killing people. He was a good athlete. It's just all mechanics and raw. They just need to fix that. I mean, he was like doing crossover runs as he's pulling and I'm going, Oh my gosh, nobody's taught this guy. He's just doing it all. I'm like, I'll just get it done this way, this play and I'll do it this way. Next play.


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[Assistant] No, we did not. I'm gonna go Andrew Booth from Clemson. Alright, I'm gonna go Andrew Booth from Clemson here. I look at it and go, hey, got Carlton Davis signed up, you know, um, Jamel


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[Assistant] Right, Sean Murphy Bunning, really good, more of a nickel guy. Jamel Dean, we're getting to the point here where it's going to be contract time here soon, right? I look at Andrew Booth and go, man, there's a lot of elite qualities here for this football team. The Buccaneers are one of those teams I look at. I think I have a little bit of like, they can go any way they want here in a lot of ways. And,


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[Assistant] I think that I just ultimately came on Andrew Booth. I did also think with them.


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[Assistant] You know, safety a little bit too, a little, uh, as far as like a Daxson Hill, that did cross my brain as well. Um, but ultimately, yeah, I'm going with Andrew Booth at corner.


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[Assistant] Uh, yes they did. This is where I'm going, Daxson Hill. I'm going Daxson Hill here. You know, Darnell Savage has not been very good for them. At safety position. You know, that's one issue I look at.


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[Assistant] You know, and then you just, you know, you look at their, their football team again, they got a lot of things that, you know, are good. I thought about Trey Burks here.


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[Assistant] As far as like maybe they do do another receiver here, have a little bit of a different guy, you know, and again, they can create ways to get him the ball.


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[Assistant] And, and, oh, Lavi's running routes downfield and now we got, you know, this guy underneath doing this route or coming out of the backfield or whatever. Like I, I did think about that, but I think ultimately I looked at it with just Adrian Amos, you know, where he's at in his career.


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[Assistant] Corner position. Overall, I know the two outside are phenomenal. I get that. This is kind of your nickel safety type, which I kind of came away looking at their team going,


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[Assistant] I think this is probably the number one need on their team for me. Again, uhm, you know, there's nothing glaring other than a receiver on their team to really look at it and go, oh, that's an issue.


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[Assistant] I went to the Joe Barry, defensive coordinator, all those years with Tampa Bay and Ronde Barber. They really don't have that guy. And like I said, at the safety position, they've been a little less than. I'm gonna go there. I know some people go pass rusher. I wanna go...


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[Assistant] They just re-signed Preston Smith for like 50 million dollars and they got Rashawn Gary. They're not gonna go pass Russia. I mean, I don't think. I know people say that. I just, I don't see that being the case. So this is where I went Dax and Hill from Michigan.


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[Assistant] This is gonna be one of those where, I don't know, again, maybe one of these teams before this takes him. You know me, I think he's worthy of that.


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[Assistant] But I do know that NFL people are a little concerned about his ability to play the 50-50 ball in the competition. I understand, you know, so that's out there. I like him more than that. I don't put as much into that at times. You know, as you've heard me with past receivers.


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[Assistant] I just realistically could see, you know, some of these other teams that want to draft receivers, I think really need something right now to prove it. They can't go on the, oh my gosh, unbelievable potential guy. Like there's a few questions we have. I just don't think and I think it's going to leave on the board here. And I think like when they pick him, the whole league is going to go,


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[Assistant] Like, that's what I think is going to happen. Cause I think there's a lot of teams that look at him and really want to make him a higher pick, but they're just not going to have the guts to. And yea, he'd be perfect with them. They don't need him to be polished and ready to go right away. They can just say, hey,


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[Assistant] I do. And, and again, there's a guy that, you know, was borderline in this area, but I'm gonna go Boye Mafay from, from Minnesota. You know, again, hey, it's not gonna be too complicated here. They like big physical dudes on their D-line. The guy's 6'4", 265 or whatever, and he ran 4'5". I mean, okay. You know, is he a little stiff for me? Sure. But he plays hard, he's strong.


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[Assistant] It's, it's a high ceiling and there's some potential there and even in my film watching of growth in the past where she's got all the skills and everything you want to be really a true force off the edge. They don't have another guy opposite of Frank Clark.


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[Assistant] You know, I know they got the extension done with Frank Clark, right? For two more years to kind of lessen the salary cap and all of that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're a team like you're talking about with Tampa Bay too. Not a lot of needs for this team. They can kind of look for like, yeah, we need it and it's for the future and everything there. I think it makes sense.


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[Assistant] Center from Iowa, Linderbaum, and you go, oh shit, they're gonna have one of the better offensive lines in football to go with Joe Burrow and those receivers and that running back, and oh my gosh, it's gonna be like Kansas City, you're gonna go, we just gotta keep pace with them every game. We gotta actually think about, we gotta play a different style this week because we're playing Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] And, we're not gonna be able to stop them. So we gotta play a game to think like, we gotta score 30 or we can't win. I mean, they could do that with Endermont. And, and, you know, but they do have Ted Carras, who they got from New England, and the free agency, who can play center.


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[Assistant] So that's not like desperate there. So I don't know. I went back and forth between him and a corner. I thought about the Florida corner, Kayer Elam. You know, he's another guy there that's I think in the range that starts to make sense. But ultimately I went with Linderbott. To me, I had Kayer, I don't know where they'd go. Uh, Elam to me was just


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[Assistant] Oh, no doubt, no doubt. And, and just before we get there.


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[Assistant] I did think about a trade here, too. Like, you know, again, I don't like doing the trade shit and all that. But I did sit here and go, alright, here we are, 31, is there a team that's gonna come up and maybe take one of these quarterbacks now? Yeah. You know, are the Colts gonna make a move?


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[Assistant] Falcon's gonna make a move. You know, I don't think the Colts will make that move now, of course. Falcons, yes. I certainly can see them being a team that, ooh, maybe they do that.


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[Assistant] There's a limited number of teams that can come up and make a play here. And I think like even if you're the Falcons, you might sit there and look at it and go, I don't know.


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[Assistant] You know, if they have a feel about what Detroit might do, they might sit there and go, well, I think we can actually sit here at, what was it, pick 43 and we might be able to just have the quarterback follow us. I'll, uh, like Mac Jones to New England and pick 15 last year. Sure. So I stayed Pat with the bangles thing there, but I could certainly see some action going down here at this point. If you're listening, you didn't see what I did. If you're


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[Assistant] Over Matt Corral, your number one quarterback. That's my number one guy. Again, you know who I would pick. I'm taking Matt Corral. That's who I want. I think Matt Corral is the best quarterback in the draft. Uhm, but, I'm just, again, I don't know. You know.


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[Assistant] I guess there's a part of me that was, is that their cup of tea there? You know, and I looked at, they got Jared Goff and they do like that kind of quarterback, you know, with


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[Assistant] Coming from New Orleans and Drew Brees and all that, I guess I just erred on going, I think Kenny Pickett would be more their cup of tea than Matt Corral.


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[Assistant] To me this is one where it didn't even make sense too because like you heard me talk about like


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[Assistant] And if, if Carolina drafted Kenny Pickett, there's going to be an issue until games are played because teams are, the locker room is going to go, wait, Sam Donald's got a quicker release. Wait, Sam Donald's.


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[Assistant] Wait, Sam Donald's outperforming him every day. You know, to me, that's not gonna be an issue in Detroit.


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[Assistant] You know, even though you might not outperform the veteran guy at first just because he's a veteran quarterback, people are going to go, well, man, his arm is stronger. Oh, he does throw a prettier ball. Oh, he definitely is a better athlete than golf.


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[Assistant] And that's to me, you know, that you can sell that to your team better that way too. And again, I know I'm not high on Kenny Pickens again. I'm never not rooting for these guys. I hope he proves me wrong too. Uh, I do think he's a guy though that, you know, could be your starter.


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[Assistant] Really quickly, and dependable, and have a long career. I just, again, yeaah, the ceiling I don't see tremendously high.


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[Assistant] There it is. The first round is in the books. Holy shit balls. I probably forgot some of my facts and things I wanted to say here, but that's just the way it goes.


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[Assistant] I would love that. I would love to give you some of the all, uh, all damn I look at them as first round guys and they're not gonna make it. And I'd like to give them some love. Like I told you earlier, you know, I'm killed. It hurt me not to have the safety from Georgia in the first round. It really did. It hurt me not to have him there.


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[Assistant] Uh, no doubt about it. Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't even think, I think the other linebackers better, Quay Walker. Oh yeah, I didn't put him in, I thought about it, you know, but I think those are guys that are like,


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[Assistant] Man, day two, in the first 30 minutes, they're gonna be off the board. Those will be picked 33, 35, 36, 34, whatever. They're gonna be right there. Those will be that group of guys. Alright.


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[Assistant] No doubt about it. Yeah. Well done. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Thanks for the red sweatshirt today. Thanks for...


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[Assistant] Just appealing to the fan base and quying the clamoring for the red sweatshirt. They always love it. And thanks for your Detroit ramp shirt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank Pete for that. Yeah. And, and thank you for agreeing to the summertime swim party, but hamstring pictures are going to take.


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[Assistant] I've seen worse is right. All right. Peace out everybody. Check us out on Wednesday. Give us your feedback. Come on. And I'm going to continue. You know me. I hope I gave some, I hope I gave some good nuggets on the draft. I will continue to as a course, hear some rumors, pass them along, whatever else is out there. Be good. Thanks for driving the ship. Clap it up.


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[Assistant] Yep, now you know the house, you got to go in the barn, you got to see most of the family, you didn't get to meet my son, uh, we had a good night though, that was a good night, you know, ate some food, you know, had a few drinks, it was.


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[Assistant] You met the dog and the cat. Yes, you did. That's what I got. You met Bentley and Platt, who was in the barn, who he stuck there. But yeah, that was a good night. We enjoyed the draft. Uh, it was like a, you know, truly a, a world win, as they say, okay? World win.


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[Assistant] No, it's a world, but I say world and we're gonna stick with that, okay? It's a simsism. Uh, it's one of those one where I'm just like, I'm going with it. It makes more sense than a whirlwind. A world wind is crazy. It's all over the world. You don't know. Um, but that was like, it was one of those first rounds when you left, I was like, holy crap.


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[Assistant] I had to like sit in bed. I brought my computer in bed as I had the TV on to kind of like digest it all a little bit. Just be like, wait, who traded what and what? It was a lot of moving parts, but a good exciting weekend.


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[Assistant] And then here we are. We get the chance to talk about it a little more. We got some things going on in the NFL that are interesting. Definitely. I mean, DeAndre Hopkins getting suspended. Not a good look there. Definitely not. The Browns and all their drama, right? Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson. I'm still amazed by that. As actually the more time goes on, the more I'm like,


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[Assistant] I don't know, that Deshaun Watson Cleveland Browns thing is really dicey, like really dicey in so many angles. Maybe we'll unpack that more next week. Uh, they got off their tanking charges, which I don't think that's tanking. I don't think it's tanking.


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[Assistant] Just because, there's a difference to me, let's do this real quick, what we don't mind. The Browns get, get, get, you know, uh, what do we want to say? The NFL lets them off the hook, found them not guilty of tanking, right? This is different than the Stephen Ross, Brian Flores accusation, which I know is all accusations right now. But the way that's laid out is that Ross,


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[Assistant] Was literally saying like, throw games. I want you to not coach right in the game and not win.


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[Assistant] Now, now that to me is tanking, deliberately losing, misleading the public, all of that.


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[Assistant] Not building your team to necessarily be the best that year.


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[Assistant] Is not tanking or deliberately losing. You know, there is some aspect of planning for the future a little bit and not going, we're going to go all assets in right here, right now. Okay. Not every team's going to do that. They were planning for the future. People are getting on and go, well, they didn't incentivize winning in year one and year two.


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[Assistant] Okay, there's again, that's not against the rules and the public is not misled. Like you, you look at it and you go, Oh,


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[Assistant] They're a young team. Oh, they're young. Okay. Oh, they're not very good. I've never heard of some of these guys. Okay.


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[Assistant] They didn't spend much money on their salary cap, so it's an inexpensive roster. All that information is there to bet and gamble and do that.


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[Assistant] That to me is not tanking. There's a total difference there. Yeah. You know, and then so, I mean, we're gonna basically say every team that tries to rebuild is tanking. And that's where you, they, I think that they made the correct decision here. Now, I don't think it's apples to apples to the Miami thing, and that's where it'll be different.


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[Assistant] You know, and you're right, like, first off, I just want to piggyback off of what you said. You don't know what this is going to be. What we try to do right now is, yes, what we evaluate is the talent, and now also look at the fit with the team in there in, and just try to go, ooh, it makes sense, I see it, I hear it, I gotcha.


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[Assistant] And then yea, you start off with this with Jamar Chase and who's going to be that guy is an important subject. I mean, we went to the Super Bowl last year and the two teams that were there, you know, their best team, their best players.


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[Assistant] You know, other than Joe Burrow and Matt Stafford, the next guys people talked about for the year itself were the receivers. They were the, the, the linchpins to make these teams good. Uh, whether it was Cooper Cup or Jamar Chase. Alright, so this year's Jamar Chase. We got, like you said, a talented group here at Wide Receiver.


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[Assistant] Right, and I am a little bit, not necessarily go like, I think Jameson Williams and Jameson Williams is the most talented.


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[Assistant] It's Detroit, he's coming off an injury. Might not be there. Right, so I'm not gonna do that. Yea. You know, Drake London, love the talent. Yea. Unproven Atlanta offense, Marcus Mariota's quarterback, I'm not gonna put my, to that. I wouldn't, I would've made him my pick. You would've made him your pick? I would've made him the one. Okay, cool.


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[Assistant] That's good. So that's the only reason I'm not though. I'm just going, I got some questions there that I'm just not sure about. I love Garrett Wilson from Ohio State on the Jets. Also can look at it and go, they got a lot of other weapons, they're gonna have Breece Hall in the backfield. That might affect his carries, touches, all of those things, right?


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[Assistant] You know, so, I don't wanna go through every one. The one that jumps out to me is Christian Watson. Okay. That's the guy I'm gonna go with.


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[Assistant] Week to week that are gonna, like, you know, accentuate what you have. So that's why I go with it. I'm not necessarily sitting here to just say, oh, he's the best cause I had him number two and that's why. No, it actually makes sense to me with.


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[Assistant] You know, their offense, you have Rodgers, and the no number one receiver guy on the roster, let alone


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[Assistant] Not a very deep position on the roster to begin with. I think he can be the guy that like


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[Assistant] Yeah, I have no issue what they did. That's a very good question. That's a tough decision. Because I did think of guys that I can go, you know, hey, as much as I love Watson, like, Olavi might be a little bit more of the


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[Assistant] Ready to go NFL, you know, I'm ready to help you out Aaron Rodgers and I understand how to run every route in the playbook and read some coverage. Like that to me is like the kind of guy that they like, okay, he's, he's polished. He knows how to do it. We know he's kind of a pro already coming in here. I thought that might be a guy they might go after.


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[Assistant] Well, again, I'm sure they didn't like the price tag and they probably said, eh, we think there's going to be some receivers here later on and we'll do that. Again, they got a lot of crap for their draft, but those two Georgia kids on their defense, they're real. I know we all want them to take a receiver, but damn, that linebacker and that D-tackle are really freaking good. They're going to help out the Packers.


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[Assistant] Right. Well, this is one thing I can say. In this class, I don't think it's going to live up to last year's class. I don't, you know, again, that is special. Waddle and Jamar Chase. Are you kidding me? And then Devonte Smith too. That's a really, really special class. And I'm not sure if anybody I think is going to be in the Chase Waddle category.


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[Assistant] You know, to me, Williams and Watson are the only two guys that have those physical skills that way. But, when you just talk about targets,


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[Assistant] The guy that can rack up catches, be a big part of the staple of the offense, dependable, all of that, because that's what Watto was. Not only a playmaker, but they knew he could do all the slot stuff and read the coverages and run it all the right way. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with Olavi here. This is where he, the Saints, West Coast offense, you know, Sean Payton.


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[Assistant] You know, they have a million ways to throw the ball 6, 8, 12, 10 yards and just run a good route in the play design and you'll never be covered. I can see Olave being a guy there that, again, a little bit like we talked about Green Bay. There's not a ton of proven commodities there. I know Michael Thomas is back.


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[Assistant] I really think it'll be him and Michael Thomas show basically and they'll be featured or the one or two read on every play. So I go with a lobby there. I did think about Traylon Burks.


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[Assistant] Just because, a little bit, like again, we talked about with Watson. Yeaah. It's kind of like necessity. Like, the, the, the radar's on you. I mean, the bullseye's on you. You traded away AJ Brown, and you drafted this guy to replace him.


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[Assistant] They're gonna throw him the ball. They're gonna find every cheap way in the world, in fact, to give him catches to go, this is why we gave him away. See look, he's got 85 catches.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right. You know, and again, I tried to stay a little true to the rounds to a degree, right? I mean, there's some guys in the second round that I look at like, you know, hey, John Meche could be a guy, Meche could be a guy that, you know, pops on to the world with stats and good things that way. But I think the mid round, there's two of them here.


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[Assistant] Alright, and, and I'm not, I'm not cheating, I'm just giving you the two that were in my thought here. Calvin Austin for the Steelers, right? That's just one where I just go, oh man, you got Deontay outside and Claypool outside and him in the slot.


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[Assistant] You know, I think he can be Jaylen Waddle-ish to a degree with some of his play there. Now, the quarterback situation makes me go, ah, I'm not quite sure how that's going to go. And that makes me a little pump the brakes there to where the other guy I think of is David Bell.


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[Assistant] Oh, they got a few people go down the- Oh, there goes Amari Cooper. Great. Oh, yeaah, there goes Schwartz. Ooh, he's fast. Whoa.


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[Assistant] Donovan People Jones, and then, oh, now we got David Bell to work underneath. And David Bell is my answer, Pete. Sorry, I should clarify that. Yes. But to me, that he could be that guy that racks up a lot of catches. It might not be highlights or anything like that, but we sit here and go, man, he's really got a carved, carved the roll out in the offense for himself.


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[Assistant] Well, this is like the quarterback conversation with some of these is going to be easy because there's only one of them I look at that's going to get a chance to really play for sure. You got to search. Right. Yeah. So I'm going with Pickett. Yeah. First off, Pickett has some Mac Jones qualities, right?


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[Assistant] And I think we've, hey, maybe, maybe I'm wrong about him. I've been one that has sat here and gone, I'm not sure about the high end talent, like some people were doing with Mac Jones. Right? So, uh, I think, but ultimately, I mean, I'm going to pick him because I think he's really the only guy that can realistically sit here and go,


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[Assistant] I definitely think there's a chance he can get on the field week one. So that's why I'm gonna go with him. And then yes, when he gets out on the field...


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[Assistant] Does he have a chance to open up some eyes? Yes, he's well-schooled like we talked about. He is polished. I mean, he ran a pro offense and did a lot of pro stuff, so he's not going to be in shock. And then he's playing in the damn stadium he's played in the last six years anyways. There's a lot of things that make him feel comfortable there.


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[Assistant] I know, you know, that's where I, I mean, I think ultimately


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[Assistant] You know, you go to the Carolina situation, could you see Corral maybe getting on the field if Sam Darnold stubs his feet early in the year? Yeah. Yeah, I can. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You know? Could I see, like, oh, Mariota has just an okay preseason and Ritter did pretty good?


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[Assistant] And the Falcons start off 1 and 4, and they go to Desmond Ritter? Absolutely. See, so those are two situations where I go, okay, I think there's at least a little logic to those guys could be on the field at some point during the year.


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[Assistant] From that, that's where I think I would go Matt Corral.


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[Assistant] I think so too. I think so too. Mario knows the system, he knows the offense, you know.


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[Assistant] I think you're saying it right. You're right. There's no negative perception around Mario right now. It's kind of just like, hey, this guy used to be the number two pick and they got history with them. There's no hate from the fan base.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. Bailey's happy from New England. It's the guy I'm gonna go with there. I am. I just, again, I liked him watching him on film. I think when we did the quarterback rankings there, he was my, you know, honorable mention guys that I talked about. It was him, Jack Cone.


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[Assistant] You know, I liked him, Jack Cohn, I can't believe he didn't get drafted, uh, got signed as a free agent by the Colts. But, to me here, like, the, the, the, the Patriots pick with Bailey Zappi is, is, it's


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[Assistant] It's Brian Hoyer to me, 2.0. This is what it is. It's like, if our starter gets hurt,


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[Assistant] Okay, we can run our offense. He might not be able to do some of the high level things our starter does, but we're not going to miss much and this guy will be, we can program him like the robots we like to program here. And that's it. So to me, that's, that's what they did. They drafted their next Brian Hoyer, a guy that's like, no way is he ever going to be in the competition to start.


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[Assistant] But we love him here as the backup for 10 years. And if he leaves us in between somewhere and someone thinks he might be able to be a low level starter, okay, well he'll be back after that anyways.


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[Assistant] A lot to like about it. You know, and again, here you gotta talk to the team a little bit. And I'm going true workout, oh horse, who's between the tackles, I'm not talking about, you know, a ton of catches and on the field every play, like real between the tackles workhorse, how you explained it.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with Damion Pierce from, from Florida that was drafted by the Houston Texans. You've seen the body, you've seen the way, he's made to be a workhorse. I mean, that's what he is.


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[Assistant] He's a human sledgehammer, alright, with a great acceleration, and then I think between that, the way his body's built, he's made to play between the tackles and be that kind of guy, very similar body and


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[Assistant] Almost to Javante Williams. It's almost a similar guy in a lot of ways. I think he has better acceleration, but maybe not better long speed than Javante Williams. But then also I take into account and look at Houston's roster and go, well yeah, there's no guy there that's like,


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[Assistant] You know, he has a real chance to be the number one between the tackles. Let's go guy for their football team. So I'll go with him and I think they're going to play a balanced style of football on the offensive side there. Uh, but he's the one guy that pops to me where I go.


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[Assistant] He's definitely gonna get a ton of touches.


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[Assistant] No doubt. Only thing I'll say here is, hey, we still don't know with Chris Carson even though it's not looking good. And he's in Seattle. And he's in Seattle, right.


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[Assistant] But they do, Rashad Penny had a really awesome end of the year last year. To where I think that could just, it's probably maybe his last year there. They're gonna ride him a little too, to save their investment. And because Rashad Penny, when he's healthy, has shown he's pretty damn good. So that'll take away Walker's carries, even though he is the epitome.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm gonna go with somebody in the second round, and to me it's two of the pass catchers here that it's down to with me. I'm gonna go with James Cook.


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[Assistant] It was one of the two. It's one of those two. I'm only going with James Cook just because he's got Josh Allen and it's the Bills, right? The Jets were just, they're still a work in progress and it's a, it's a second year quarterback and all that. I'm expecting great things with Breece Hall.


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[Assistant] But I just look at like the cook thing to go, Hey, that team's awesome. They're good. They know what they are. And then they got a quarterback that I think is the best player in football.


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[Assistant] So, it's just gonna be easy for him. The field's gonna be wide open. It's gonna be Josh Allen, you know, everybody, oh shit, he's gonna throw an 80 yard bomb. Oh, he threw a four yard pass to Cook. Oh crap, there's nobody around him and he can fly. You know, that's where I just look at it. The screen game, all of that. I just think he's gonna have a lot of opportunities to be in space.


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[Assistant] That's why I went with flashiest. Again, I love Breece Hall and Kenneth Walker and all those guys too. Trying to spread the love around here a little bit too.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was the guy, I think, those two, you said the other one. Yeah. But Cook is, I'm gonna give Cook the little advantage just because of the team he's on.


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[Assistant] You know, the Niners got a, you know, a mid-round, third-round pick that I like, like in Davis Price, uh, out of LSU. But again, they're, they're, they're going to spread the wealth of running back. You know, they're, they're a team that's going to take a running back, I think probably in every draft, as long as Shanahan is there.


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[Assistant] Now I'm going to go to the team that I also think is going to take a running back in every draft as long as this guy is still there. And that's Bill Belichick. You can see it. Belichick's not, they're, like, people are getting mad at him for taking two running backs. I'm going to go.


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[Assistant] James White's got an injury thing, and, uhm, Harris is on the last year of his contract.


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[Assistant] So, to take two running backs, so what, this is the new modern thought in the NFL. Draft a running back every year, cause in three years we're gonna send them out the window to somebody else. Uh, they do have Ramondre Stevenson, I get that. But we know how they are here. Right? I mean this is New England, oh we want a power guy, it's Ramondre Steven. Now we need a home run hitting.


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[Assistant] Dude's gonna get carries right away. I think so. He's gonna get carries. He's definitely gonna have games where they're gonna go, ooh, we want you in this game. And, uh, you know, quite honestly,


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[Assistant] I think he's up there as far as just the pure home run hitting ability with the top running backs in the draft. Again, this is a guy that, you know, he might not have had the wiggle and some of the power that Breece Hall or Kenneth Walker has, but


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[Assistant] He is the guy that if you're running outside zone and here's a hole and you just go, now it's time to put your foot in the ground and go through that hole.


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[Assistant] He is every bit as good as they are at that department to where you can go, whoop, there he goes, ADR touchdown, nobody's gonna catch him. And that's the element I think he's gonna bring. The Patriots, they obviously had a thing of going, we need to get faster.


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[Assistant] They got the fastest receiver in the draft and the fastest running back in the draft.


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[Assistant] You know, they were, they left that Bill's game. If everybody remembers where they went, you guys look slow out there in Buffalo and Buffalo wasn't a fast team because Buffalo played Kansas city the next week and went, we're slow. We need to get faster. So I think they made a real emphasis on that. And Pierre's the guy I'm going with and they'll have cold strain


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[Assistant] Kevin Neal, that's who I'm going with. I mean, again, it's not tricky here. The Giants, they need him to play well. He's gonna be on the field, starting, ready to go. Here we go. And you know my thoughts about him. I think he's the one that can change their team the most out of these picks here.


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[Assistant] Right? And just give him a real, like, force of nature on either tackle position, wherever they end up putting him. Uh, and yeaah, I just look at him, as you heard me say, Rashawn Slater made a name for himself this last year for one reason. Everyone went,


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[Assistant] His pass protection is amazing. Nobody gets near him. I think he let up one sack the whole year. Something like that. Evan Neil, you know, you heard my thoughts on him. I think he's that guy. He's the best pass, pass protecting left tackle I've seen come out in a while. So I'm going with him.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, the obvious one is Linderbaum. Yeah. For the Ravens. Yeah. It's a real need. He's going to play. He's the 20th pick. He's going out there. He's going to start and he's going to be really damn good. And that's, that's, that's the obvious one.


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[Assistant] Alright, so I almost, I didn't go with that because I've given them such love. It would work. I know it would work. So maybe we could do both here. I actually am going to go to the Chargers. I was just going to go with Zion Johnson there. Just because again, I think it's a real position of need there. Like they got an issue there and they weren't a great running football team.


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[Assistant] To where I just think he might have the biggest impact overall.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I love Linderbaum, so I'm just trying to be a little different and give some other names here. But Zion to me, yes, for the reasons I just stated, and then even though might not think his top end talents as good as maybe a Linderbaum or a Kenyon Green, what we talked about with him more than anything is Zion's an NFL ready,


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[Assistant] The first day he's at OTAs, they're gonna be, oh, he can do all this. Boston College runs a pro offense, they run pro running schemes, he's gonna be ready and hit the ground running, where some of these other guys might have a little bit of a learning curve. Linderbaum, like him though.


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[Assistant] It's Iowa. You know that. It's NFL Offense Alliance stuff. So it's those two guys. I'm just giving Johnson some love because we've talked a lot about Linderbaum. How about the defense? And Pete says we will allow you both. Oh, thank you. Thank you.


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[Assistant] The two obvious ones are the two first-rounders, which is in Hamilton, you know, for the Ravens. Cause he can play four different positions on the defense. He really can. Free safety, strong safety. Oh, you know, dime linebacker in the middle of the field. Oh, we need you as a big nickel over here. So that's incredible versatility.


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[Assistant] The kid the Jaguars drafted, Devin Lloyd, I think he's got, I mean, I said he's got Michael Parsons ability in that way. His pass rush ability was there of like, oh,


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[Assistant] I maybe should rank him as one of the pass rushers. That's how good he is in that department. The kid Nick Bonito for the Broncos I think can also be that.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with Hamilton here though. I'm gonna go with the easy hanging fruit. I just think it's rare. I think this is why they drafted him. You hear Harbaugh talk about him. They're excited about moving him around and matching him up and playing that kind of ball.


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[Assistant] All the ways they use him. Right. I mean, you know, he, like I said, it could be, you know, it's nickel one play and here he is and whoa, he did a pretty good job covering the receiver. And then the next play they go, you know, Hey, Darren Walters over there. We need you to play man to man on him now. He split out. Oh, okay. Man to man. All right. And then the next place in the middle of the field.


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[Assistant] Playing center field. I'm gonna read the eyes and break on a ball. So there's incredible versatility with the player. That really was his value. And you got to see it all. So I'll go with him there. I'll go with him.


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[Assistant] It's, I, number one thing I questioned when I first saw him. I just went, damn, he is some specimen. Look at him move.


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[Assistant] Damn, he's handsome. The whole thing. And I just went, he's not really going to hit somebody though. He's not going to hit somebody. Yeah. And I can't remember that year. I mean, he had an interception in the first home game, but I remember he had a few hits in the game and I just went, oh crap, this guy's, this is real. Yeah. Like this is not just some big fancy athlete who doesn't really want to hit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean he was, Jalen Phillips at the end of the year was really rolling and a force to be reckoned with.


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[Assistant] Jermaine Johnson is certainly in the conversation.


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[Assistant] No, I think there were some issues off the, off the field a little bit. Off the field, okay. Some stuff. Not like there was like law or anything like that.


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[Assistant] But just maybe some attitude and a few of the interviews, leaving Georgia, maybe a few people in Florida State talking some crap about him. Alright. So I think that's where... There had to be something. I know. Cause there were some teams that were like, I don't understand it. They didn't have that same info where they were like, why is he still here?


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[Assistant] So, I think it was, yeaah, some teams had that, some teams didn't.


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[Assistant] You know, some teams like volatile, confident, like guys like that. Some teams don't. And I think the Jets do. They're looking for a killer on the edge. I'm gonna do this though. He's natural. We know that.


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[Assistant] I'm going with Travon, Travon Walker. I am. I, I'm, because I just, I'm gonna play it from this angle a little bit. First off, we know he's a freak of nature. He really is. You know, you've heard me discuss a lot. He did not get to play the right way.


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[Assistant] Definitely. I think it's that, and then there was no, you know, not a lot of sex, none of that, and then the, the, he wasn't like on the radar going into it, he kinda came out of nowhere, and he became really like, yeaah, I think


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[Assistant] Stop media. It's not about the sacks. They never let him go get a sack. And he only had nine and a half sacks. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Not one year, like, in college. Total, right. Well, he got, he played like a defensive tackle. That's where, again, that's where just, you know.


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[Assistant] That's where I've been, I've been trying to explain people. It's not, he never got to just be Nick Bosa or Chase Young.


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[Assistant] Or Miles Garrett, like they did in college. He never got to be that. So that was, you know, that led to the lack of sack production. So, but I'm gonna go with him. I'm gonna go with him because I'm kinda sick of the hate on him a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he had a great year. He did. He was fun to watch. He was. A lot of fun to watch. Linebackers, there's some good ones here, we know. There really is.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with a guy that's actually not even one of my favorite linebackers, but I think it's gonna fall just right for him. Alright. I'm gonna go with Nicole B. Dean.


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[Assistant] You know, you know me, it was my sixth rank linebacker. Yeah, yeah. But!


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[Assistant] Philadelphia, there's a real need. I think he can get on the field right away.


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[Assistant] And then, you know what Philadelphia has? They have the f-


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[Assistant] Georgia D-line in front of him. I mean, basically, oh, Fletcher Cox, Javon Hargrave, oh, Jordan Davis. Nobody's ever going to be blocking him. Nobody. They're going to eat up people and he's just going to be able to, just like he did at Georgia, go, the ball's there. Let me run to the ball and tackle him. I don't ever have to worry about a lineman on me or anything. I can just run and play ball.


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[Assistant] And that's what he had to do with Georgia. I think it kind of sets up just right for him. You know, he, he to me, as I said, do you, I think you did that day, I can't remember anymore. He's Denzel Perryman.


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[Assistant] Of the, of the Raiders. And Denzel Perryman was one of the league leaders in the, in tackles this past year too. It doesn't mean it's always...


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[Assistant] The greatest tackles in the world, you know, sometimes, you know, people, we all look at it and go, oh, you've got tackles. I'm going to go, well, yeah, they're all nine yards down the field though. It's not that great of a tackle. Like he's in the middle of the field. Eventually it comes that way. Uh, but I think it could set up really nice for him.


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[Assistant] As a slam dunk to be one of five. Me too. I was expecting it too. Again, that's where I hope people know. Like, I turned on the film, I knew it, and I was expecting to watch a first round guy and go, okay yea, everybody said he's a top linebacker, he's a top linebacker.


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[Assistant] Not as explosive as fast as you think. He didn't run the 40, I know he's got some injuries and things to deal with too, but I think it's most likely probably because there's times that he didn't like.


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[Assistant] But then when you don't see the play, then he doesn't do it, that scares you. And then you go, oh wait, he's, he's 5'10 or 5'11 and it's only 2'28. You know, those are the things I think that's why, along with the injury a little bit, is why he got left on the board.


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[Assistant] Really good. Better than I even thought he was going to be. I mean, he was my number two corner. I was wrong. He should have been my number one. I made the man Tyson Campbell from the Jacksonville Jaguars, my number one right out of Georgia, who had a really good year too. He was picked 33 in the draft, but not as good as Patrick Surtain. Surtain is, he showed his ass last year. Size, speed, plays the ball phenomenal, tackles, does it all.


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[Assistant] Got all pro written all over him. I'm going with Sauce Gardener here. I am. I don't trust Stingley enough to go that route.


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[Assistant] And then the rest of the class as a whole, you know,


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[Assistant] Every corner had a flaw, though. Every time I was like, oh, that guy's really fast and has the speed I want, but I went, oh my gosh, his feet are horrible. Then it was, hey, the feet and the hips are awesome, and I went, oh my gosh, he's not fast enough. So there was a lot of that this year.


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[Assistant] Sauce to me was the only one that was just guaranteed, gonna kick ass no matter what you do, what coverage you're gonna play, gonna bring attitude to your team. I'm going with him. I'm still shocked by Stingley.


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[Assistant] In so many ways. That Nick Caserea would take him. That Lovey Smith who plays cover two. It has never been about an island corner. Wants to play with an island corner.


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[Assistant] Pete, did we ever get a chance, cause Pete and I talked about this too.


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[Assistant] Houston, it's alright, no big deal. I mean, I would think Houston led the league in cover two last year. That to me, that's where I just thought that would never happen. I'm still surprised by that.


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[Assistant] Exactly, why would you take a workhouse running back that's gonna be like, right, like, oh yeah, we're gonna be, you know, the Buffalo Bills, but we're gonna go with Kenneth Walker, who's the best in between. No, that doesn't make sense. Makes sense. Right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the, you know, it's, it's interesting. It was a year that I think had more outside corners than maybe inside corners overall as far as the draft's concerned.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the McCreery kid from Tennessee, I thought about the number 35 pick I believe he was, who I really like, but I think he'll end up being a little more outside than in. I think it's really gonna be...


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[Assistant] One of the New England guys. New England took two, two of these guys. Two, two slot guys. Two slot guys. Marcus Jones and the kid from Arizona State, uh, Jack Jones. Yeah. Marcus Jones and Jack Jones. Jack Jones has got some...


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[Assistant] He's got some stuff to him. He's not real big, he's 5'11", he's skinny. He was a big time, started as a freshman at USC.


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[Assistant] You know, you turn on the film and you can sit there and go, ooh damn, there's some things to really like about this kid. He's quick as hell, just like Marcus Jones is. Where they can just stick their foot in the ground and go any direction and accelerate really quickly. They're not real big, you're gonna be able to move them that way and do all that.


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[Assistant] A hundred percent. That's why they did it. Right.


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[Assistant] Not just outside, we gotta have some, you know, guys that can match them inside too. Yeah, I think that, you're right. With Stefan Diggs and the Jets and...


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[Assistant] I mean, Diggs, Jamieson, Crowder's up in Buffalo, the Jets without a doubt with that crew there. I mean, Barrios and Elijah Moore and them, they're gonna work this lot. They're gonna be a handful in there. You know, along with Garrett Wilson. So, uh, yeaah, I think that's, they, they, I think that was obviously an emphasis for their team. Speed. Safety now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, which we already did, so I won't do that. We already did that. Yeah. Pete's not giving you two? Nope, I'm not going two here. Don't worry, he doesn't have to worry about that. Uh, I do...


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[Assistant] I think I know who this is gonna be. Yea, you probably do. I will say this, um, Javon Holland. Wow. Yea. Wow, Paul.


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[Assistant] To me, two guys entered the best safety and football conversation last year. Maybe three guys. He would be one of them as a rookie, which is phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Duggar up in New England, Kyle Duggar. Same type of thing. And then even our guy in, uh, Carolina, Jeremy Chin.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's one of my favorite players. No regard for his body. No regard. Like I said during we're in the barn and I had to put out my tweet, like he just, he wants to hit everybody. He's got a sledgehammer for a head, but yet he can, he can really run. And to me it's just the most


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[Assistant] Traditional, like, you know, Hamilton, he's talking about the versatility. Daxton Hill, you know, from Michigan, who got drafted right before scene. It's a little bit of nickel safety hybrid, it's not quite...


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[Assistant] Seen's gonna be strong safety, free safety. That's what he is. That's what he'll be. They won't move him around from that. It's gonna be go in the box and knock the running backs head off. Yep. Or play the middle of the field and the receiver comes over the middle, knock his head off. It's one of the two. And that's really what it is. So I'll go with him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, A-50 Profit. Yeah. Profit. Okay. Net gain A-50. Yes, you've already done the hundred dollar bet, but yes, I got you. Yes. Good question though. Who's your guy? This is a good one.


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[Assistant] You know, I mean, hey, the top three guys on the board, they're certainly, you know, you can understand a little bit of like what we talk. I mean, picket the quarterback. Hey, all that. You talked about Drake London. I mean, I've got my pick, you know, he's going to be special Burks. They're going to try to get the ball to him a ton further down.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm with you. All the way. You're going all the way to the bottom. Yeah. Watson. Christian Watson plus 1200. To me, it's Watson. It's...


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[Assistant] It's Breece Hall. Yep, Breece Hall. And it's James Cook.


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[Assistant] That would be the other guy I would throw on this side. James Cook is gonna end up


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[Assistant] Killing it in the pass game. And he's off the board. He's not on the board. Which I'm, uh, yep. Points bet. There's a, there's a dark horse pick by Chris Sims with James Cook. I like Trelon Burke so little as well. Yeah, I hear you. Cause they're going to, they're going to force feed him. He's got to play. Yes, exactly right. They're going to justify that trade of, of AJ Brown. So I, I understand that as well, but yeah, Breece Hall.


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[Assistant] You know, again, I think Garrett Wilson can have a really good year, but there's other receivers and options on the field.


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[Assistant] Breece Hall, not only with the running game, the Jets throwing the ball to him. I think he could really accumulate a lot of yards and touches that way.


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[Assistant] Watson, we just already discussed. I just think he's gonna be the number one guy, and I think he's gonna be the guy that's gonna be scary. I'm with you. And they're gonna force it to him a little bit. And then I did, like I said, James Cook at the end of the second round.


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[Assistant] It's just, it's tailor-made for that offense and the fit and everything there. I think he's just gonna get a lot of touches that really show what he's got in space. He's made for that. He really is. So I'm gonna go one here. I'm going James Cook. Alright. Alright. Off the board, James Cook. Plus 1300.


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[Assistant] And it's, you know, it usually can be big moments, closing out a game, doing that. It's, to me, one of those three as far as Jermaine Johnson, Hutchinson, Walker. That's who I want to go with there. You know, as far as like,


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[Assistant] You know, the system fit, Jermaine Johnson is really, like, it's just, it's perfect for him. He really, to me, like I've said, could be the Nick Bosa or the Cliff Averill.


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[Assistant] Of this Jets defense, right? The Seattle Scheme guys. Where I don't think he's necessarily the overall player that the other two guys are.


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[Assistant] I hear ya. I gotta go, I'm going with Trevon Walker just because I picked him to be the guy that'd be the best pass rusher, so I'm gonna stick with that, but I'm trying to give everybody a little logic.


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[Assistant] And get two risk free bets up to two thousand dollars, just like Paul told you. So if you bet a hundred and lose, you will get free bets worth a hundred dollars. Once the game starts, don't just bet.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know you are. I know you are. I think here, here's the ones that, like, were just uninspiring to me. Alright? And a lot of them, really, I think were just because of...


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[Assistant] The trades a little. Like Dallas is certainly questionable to me. Because? Tyler Smith, that high. Ton of talent, very raw. First round tackle from Tulsa. Yes, right. Sam Williams, second round pick from Ole Miss.


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[Assistant] Total specimen is amazing if he just runs in a straight line, but can't do much else.


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[Assistant] On the ground a lot, can't stop the run, plays really high. Like they, they to me took some like, let's see, let's swing for the fences. We might get a superstar, but it, they could easily be busts. Like to where I just go, ooh, see, that's why you don't take the raw guy there like that at all potential.


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[Assistant] The Raiders would be a team I would look at a little bit. Now, they didn't have a lot of picks, I understand that. You know, they got a guard. I liked Zamir White, the running back they got. I guess I would just say I didn't look at it and go, oh wow. Alright, that'd be one, just to say, oh wow. They got some guys that filled out their roster. The Chargers, they're another one. You know, not that it was bad, you know, but they traded


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[Assistant] I don't know if there was like one thing specifically. I guess I just, I kinda looked at it where...


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[Assistant] You know, they took Spiller at running back. I thought maybe they would try to find a little bit more of a game changer a little bit early on, a little bit that way. I don't know if I had any expectations or anything, but just like,


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[Assistant] You know, JT Woods, I felt like there was better guys on the board, right? I didn't love that, right? So that was my issue. Again, I'm more positive than anything. The Rams are another team that I think I would probably throw in there. They usually kill the middle round of the draft. Not that I look at it and go bad. Again, I just kind of looked at it and went,


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[Assistant] I like Kyron Williams. Yeah, sure. He's gonna be good. They need a guy like that. That's a great smart pick for what they do, all that. I'm just talking about


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[Assistant] The rest of it, the Kobe Durant, the corner, hey maybe that works, you know, got a guard from Wisconsin, okay. You know, nothing that just makes you go, oh wow, you know, watch the Rams in the middle of the draft there. We don't have to be critical or negative from here on out.


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[Assistant] I know you didn't love their first bank, Cave on Thibodeau. Yep, Cave on Thibodeau, love you not.


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[Assistant] Evan Neil, love you. Yeah. What else do you love? Wondale Robinson, love you not. Really? Not, no. I want Sky Moore or Alec Pierce or somebody else on the board. Wondale Robinson. Better receivers. Better receivers left there. Okay.


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[Assistant] That really was. I'll tell you another one I kinda like. I like the tight end they took from San Diego State. He's got some talent, he's got a chance to be something. Very physical, he's got the ability in the pass game. Just one of those guys, Paul, like we talk about a lot.


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[Assistant] It didn't play in an offense that threw the tight end of the ball a lot, so you don't get to see it a lot. And even your guy, Dane Belden, I kinda like that too.


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[Assistant] Well, the Giants and the Pickers, I think it was a good draft. I just, I didn't love it. And you know me, I'm questionable about Cave-On-Tibet-Oh, I am.


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[Assistant] Yes, from what I've heard, and you know, and yeaah, I've heard from the right people. I think there was just a few attitude things, a Georgia at the door, maybe a few at Florida State, and you know, a few teams that weren't in love with the interview there. But I don't, again,


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[Assistant] That was not across the board. Good value at 26. It's amazing value at 26. And I know there was teams that were going in the first round trying to kind of figure it out on the fly going, wait, I don't. Why is he here? Why is he here? Cause we didn't have this and what's, what's going on.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's too far off. I don't. Uhm. The five and a half number is interesting. It is. For Sam. I'm gonna go over. Yea, I would. But not much. I mean, if it's faltered, it's around that time, right, where you start to go, alright, maybe we need to make a change. You know, it's...


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[Assistant] For five games to be under, like I think they're gonna have to be one and four.


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[Assistant] For that to be done. And I'm going to bet that they can get to two and two or two and three. And you know, maybe he buys himself another game or two there, right? If it does go that route. So I'll take the over on that one. And you're feeling over too.


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[Assistant] Right, right, like we've done it, we tried to, we exhausted Sam Darnold, we tried to make it work, we gave him a chance.


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[Assistant] And we gave him a little chance with it because it was a new offensive coordinator and Ben McAdoo didn't work. See you later. Let's try out the new guy.


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[Assistant] To me, it's not a huge deal either. It's not. I mean, you know, first off, there's no guarantee you make that trade within division. You might be going,


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[Assistant] These guys are idiots. They'll take somebody's sandwich. This is perfect. Right. Right. So it's not like it's like, I mean, we're all acting like, oh, they definitely are going to get a guy and hey, you got to do what's best for your team. They don't need receivers. Right. They were sitting there a little bit, I think in no man's land.


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[Assistant] At 12, right? It was 12, right? Am I, am I right about that? Yea. The 12th was involved.


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[Assistant] They were, they were kinda sitting there in No Man's Land at 12.


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[Assistant] And they decided to go back. You know, I don't know what exactly maybe they were looking for, what it was at 12 that went off the board that they didn't like. That's the thing I don't know. But I think they probably just looked at it and went,


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[Assistant] Wait, we'll take this trade, we'll take the deal, all the assets we're gonna get along with it, and we still feel like we're gonna get a player we really like at the end of the day, and they did. And they did, yeaah.


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[Assistant] We got a better offer, but they were from our division, so we can't take it. What? I mean, but whoa, the one team offered you a fourth. This team offered you a second. You're not going to do it because you're in a division.


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[Assistant] You know, so yeaah, I don't have an issue with that. You know, and then let's see, what was it the, the, so then they traded the second round, uh, the other pick with the, and they ended up taking Booth, right, from Clemson. You know, again, they probably looked at the board and didn't feel like


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[Assistant] They're, they probably, I'm guessing they were thinking DB all the way, and they probably looked at it and went, wait, Kyler Gordon's still out there, Roger McCreary's out there, they probably had similar grades on the guys, and probably went, we'll be happy with any of the three. Who knows what it is there, but again, I think they gotta do what's best for their team, it's not crazy there. Best fit at wide receivers.


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[Assistant] No, I, I, I am, uh, I tend to agree. We kind of hit this on this already. Yeah. Olavi makes a lot of sense to hit the ground running, being ready to go run all the intricate routes that, that, uh, the New Orleans Saints have in their, their playbook. Uh, I, I, I, I do, I look at him as being certainly the one that's kind of like


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[Assistant] The most ready and schooled and polished and like,


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[Assistant] I have no problem with their Cole Strange pick, which everyone talks about. This one to me was a little bit of the weirder one. Okay. I don't...


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[Assistant] Because of the other receivers that were available? Yeah, I think so. I mean, just from what I kinda saw in film, I mean, it's really a straight-line guy that's just a true projection. It's just, I don't think you can really sit there and go, I think I know what we're gonna get. Right? That's where...


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[Assistant] And again, yes, I mean, George Pickens had some injuries, but he can go, and he's a better player than Tyquan Thornton. You know my thoughts with Alec Pierce and Sky Moore, but there was something about them that they liked, and I don't know what it is. You know, I know he's fast, and he's got a little length.


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[Assistant] But man, there's some issues in this game. Uhm, as much as I want to defend all the other Patriots picks, that one there is definitely a bit of a


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[Assistant] Alright, well, the three ride receivers, Tyquan Thornton, I mean, I don't think they cared about him. Okay. Alright. George Pickens, we talked about, you know, injuries a little bit.


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[Assistant] The last year, he didn't play at all really until the end of the year for Georgia. And, you know, with George Pickens and Alec Pierce, alright, with those two guys on the board there,


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[Assistant] I don't think the Chiefs need that guy. Right? And I need to pull up the Chiefs roster, but the Chiefs have... Marquez Valdez Scanling, 6-4. Juju Smith Schuster, 6-2.


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[Assistant] So to me, that's, they weren't looking for that. They went, wait, we got our, you know.


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[Assistant] They want a little bit of everything. They got a McColl Hardman, great. You got an MVS, he's fast and got some size. Juju Smithster, who's maybe more quick than fast, but has some size. So now they probably looked at it and went, wait, let's get like a real true slot guy.


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[Assistant] And work underneath and not always have Travis Kelce working underneath. I think that's what they were looking for. So that's what makes sense. And I think he's, every bit, I mean, I know I had Alec Pierce in front of him. He's every bit in the conversation as being as good or better than any of these guys here.


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[Assistant] By all due accounts, it looks like the Cowboys had Kavon Thibodeau as the first player on their board by Jerry Jones' sheet that's been deciphered here that he held up.


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[Assistant] I know there's teams that had Kavon Thibodeau in the low twenties on their board. So the boards can be all over the place there. And then, you know, how this draft shakes out can affect something by 30 picks at times. You know, you could have been there and you're the Rams. We talked about this a little on Monday where you're, you're evaluating going,


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[Assistant] Alright, let's look at all supposed second round interior offense alignment and on. You know, cause you don't know. So you're just going, man, here's a group of guys that can go anywhere from 35 to 95. We don't know. Let's watch them all or 110, whatever.


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[Assistant] Alright, and again, some teams might have those guys and go, well, we think he's the 40th best player in the draft. Another team can go, he's our 70th best player. So that's where it can be a mix and match. And then let alone throw in, oh wait, there was a run of the position. And now this team has a desperate need of that position to where, oh wait, now he was our 60th best player.


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[Assistant] We think he's the next guy that can really play and do something here. So we're gonna take him 20 spots ahead of where we think. That's how that can happen. Again, I think it was a little, you know, like,


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[Assistant] I don't think he's going to be on the board for more than 10 more picks. I really don't. 10, 15 picks. It's, it's, he's the, him and the centers.


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[Assistant] You know, the, the center from, uh, Nebraska and, and, and yeah, and the center from Kentucky, to me those were the next guys that are gonna go off interior line. So now if you're looking truly for a guard, he's really


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[Assistant] And like, and you know, I bring up to something you said too about, like, best player available. Some teams don't believe in best player available. Right. Right. Great.


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[Assistant] Well, there is, there is hate on Lamar Jackson. There is. There's no question about that. You know, there's some people that just, you know, again, they don't like the style of play, they don't think you can ever win that way, that style of quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, I, you know, again, I know there's, there's some hate. I don't, I think, I think our buddy at Jay Richex is being a little maybe dramatic, right?


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[Assistant] And, you know, the O-Line was shaky last year, but at Jay Riches, the O-Line wasn't shaky in any of the other years. So let's make sure. It's been really good.


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[Assistant] Receiver thing, yeaah, it's a little bit of an issue and it's the way they play. There's no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] You know, to me, you know, again, this is, it's an interesting conversation. Lamar is going to continue to get some sort of hate a little bit, right? Because...


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[Assistant] The league and people who evaluate football are not sold that you can win a Super Bowl playing that style of football with that style of quarterback. Yeah. Has nothing to do with black or white.


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[Assistant] You know, cause I know Lamar, even in the shop, he kind of piggybacked off a comment of like, you know, there's still a stigma on the black quarterback. And he said, there is. And like, I agree with that to a degree. There's no stigma on Dak Prescott or Patrick Mahomes or Russell Wilson. So that's where I want to say, no, that's not true. That's not true. There's no stigma on them because they play a style of football that we know can win.


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[Assistant] In the pocket, decisions, big time throws, all of that. Lamarr plays a style that we still haven't seen win more than one playoff game. And that's questionable. So that's where it's questionable.


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[Assistant] That's where it's, I want to push back and I don't think it's about skin color. I don't. I don't think the league's going, oh, we don't like black quarterbacks. I think they're going, oh, we're not sure about quarterbacks that play this style of football and we can win. And unfortunately or fortunately, however you want to say it, most of the quarterbacks that do that are black quarterbacks because they're usually


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[Assistant] That's, it is. It's exactly that. And I think when you add into the Ravens situation where they, hey listen, the Ravens are, they're doing something nobody in the history of football ever did here. They're playing a style of football and went with a quarterback and a roster building situation that is, you know, new to the NFL.


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[Assistant] Right. And it's cool and it's awesome, but it doesn't mean you can't sit here and still question a little bit and go,


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[Assistant] I'm not sure you can win the Super Bowl like that. I'm just not sure. And I hope they proved me wrong. Think about how much John Elway dealt with that. And I've been a huge Lamar fan. Yes, I know. He had a deal with it. It's not new. It's not new. It's always been a quarterback thing. I think it gets a little doubled down here because of the style of play and all of that.


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[Assistant] It's a style of play. It's not, not necessarily skin color. That's where I, I, I disagreed with that. Like take Randall Cunningham for instance. When he was with the Eagles, it was like, I don't know if he can win a quarterback like that. He went to the Minnesota Vikings. He was more of a pocket passer picking it up. Nobody was questioning that. Nobody was, it wasn't like,


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[Assistant] I think it does. I've thought about it a few times. I do wonder if they're one of the teams kind of laying in the weeds, just kind of like, oh, we're just going to wait for them to be released and then.


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[Assistant] Whoa, what the Browns have done with Deshaun Watson, the contract, all of that, the non well thought out part of it to think, wait, you thought Baker Mayfield was going to be cool with this when you guys are going for him? Oh wait, now he's not cool and now you have to go back to the guy who said he didn't want you and make the greatest offer in the history of football to the guy?


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[Assistant] Yeah, bet proposition or whatever Cleveland's dealing with here. But as for the question, I like New Orleans. I like it. I think he fits that offense. He does. I mean, he's, he's a better, he's a better thrower than Jamis Winston. Yeah. In my opinion, and definitely a better short to intermediate thrower, which they complained about with Winston last year. And he even recognized that he needed to get better.


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[Assistant] Yeah, listen, there's, there's a need for corner on their football team. There's no doubt about it. Now.


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[Assistant] Jalen Armour Davis, I love him. It sounds like there was some medical issues a little bit to go along with. Yes, he's only played really one year in college. That seemed to be the reason I hear or whatever that he fell off a little bit.


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[Assistant] Well, the, the, the Detroit Lions, I mean, they got, you know, O'Rourier, I always mess up his name, Akuda's coming back, you know, they did sign Mike Hughes, corner from, uh, from Kansas City.


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[Assistant] I think this is one where they just went, and I'm guessing here, just going, damn, this player's too good.


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[Assistant] I'm guessing they had nothing on their board that made sense for them as far as corner to be picked in that area. Like I just look at corners after. Armour Davis is the one that certainly jumps out to me. You know I love him, 100%. But there's guys like


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[Assistant] Alante Taylor on the board, who's like a tall, skinny, straight line fast guy. So maybe they didn't love that. They want to play man to man. I'm not sure he's that man to man guy.


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[Assistant] The guy from Cincinnati, uh, uh, I mean, uh, the Cincinnati took Cam Taylor-Britt. Again, awesome straight ahead speed. Had some issues with hips and tightness and things like that that I think were questionable. So I think it was one of those where it just went like,