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[Assistant] But they had to go all in to stop, you know, those elements against, uh, those type of football teams. They weren't big enough to where maybe this man, our man Mazzie Smith. Yeah. Mazzie, right? Sorry. It is Mazzie. I don't know why the maze blue and Mazzie and everything gets me every time. But yeah.


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[Assistant] His addition adds something there, so I think that's probably the one area that jumps out to me the most as compared to those other football teams. And again, this is a, you know,


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[Assistant] A real good ol' line they got too, but not on the level of the Eagles of course, and I would certainly take the 49ers in front of it as well. So those are two areas again, right up front where I'd go, yeaah, they could help to bolster those,


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[Assistant] I think there's just pressure along the whole organization, right? And definitely, you know, a lot of pressure on Dak Prescott this year. Yeah, he didn't play well last year.


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[Assistant] He's, you know, being paid big money and he did not play like one of the marquee quarterbacks in football. It certainly didn't end the year that way with the performance that, you know, on the heels of a great performance against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in a wild card game, then kind of laid an egg.


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[Assistant] In, in the divisional game against the 49ers. But, you know, that would be the area, you know, I, again, the defensive line. And then of course the other thing I do look at is just the running game with, with Tony Pollard not being back 100% healthy right away to start the year. I think that could affect their football team as well.


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[Assistant] I think all the things that I would worry about, you know, like,


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[Assistant] Physically, like, or the things that, there's no physical concerns I have. I didn't look at it last year and go, oh, he's weak, or oh, his feet are too slow. Right? It wasn't about that. I think it was more about, again, it's not an easy adjustment.


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[Assistant] AKA, look at the other tackle on the other side of the line where it wasn't great the first


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[Assistant] Year, year and a half, two years in Andrew Thomas, and now he's considered one of the best left tackles in football.


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[Assistant] It's one of those, it's rare where tackles just come into the league and dominate, right? We talk about quarterbacks, the adjustment to the league. We talk about, you know, I know we hit on tight ends a little bit when we were doing the top five rankings of that with the draft, right? Cause it's a big adjustment from college to, from college tight end to NFL tight end.


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[Assistant] There's probably another position where we probably don't put enough emphasis on the drastic change.


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[Assistant] Where, in college, as we talk, is limited playbook, right?


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[Assistant] And it's limited past protections that we talk about all the time. Now they get here and they go, whoa.


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[Assistant] Like in college, even in a place like Alabama, we had like four or five run plays. Now we got 25 run plays, and we had like two protections at Alabama, right? With a few nuances to max protect or whatever. Now we have like seven different pass protections, right? And then there's different rules within them, and then,


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[Assistant] Now, too, I'm not necessarily on the best team to where we can dictate things all the time and make things easier. And also, I'm on a team now, or I'm playing a position now too, where it's a whole different animal coming at me on a weekly basis. I mean, SEC, Lyman, whatever, you're getting


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[Assistant] Pro's, who are technicians, who are freaky physically, and then you're getting different varieties of guys within the same game, let alone just like, oh I'm in the SEC, I'm gonna see this defense end for 55 out of the 70 snaps, right? In the NFL, it's...


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[Assistant] You know, it's always changing. Whoa, this guy's on that side. This guy's here. Oh, they moved the D tackle out over me now. Oh, now it's the backup to where you can play right tackle and you can go, we dropped back to pass 40 times and I, I protected against eight guys, eight different guys during the day. Right. So I think those are adjustments that kind of get swept under the rug.


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[Assistant] I like his physical ability and I expect him to be a lot more comfortable and make a real big jump this year.


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[Assistant] Let's not lean on people. Let's not just think if I hit them with my arms, I'm gonna, you win the play, right? No, that guy's still coming here in the NFL. It's not over, right?


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[Assistant] Let's be a little quicker to identify. Wait, the defense end came to my inside shoulder. Oh wait, they might be stunting the D tackle. I might have to switch this off with the guard. It's things like that that he's got to improve and I have no doubt he will.


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[Assistant] I think if there's one that I would look at to make the most drastic changes to this point,


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[Assistant] Alright, I think I would probably go, and this is off the top of my head, and you can think of some more too. The Denver Broncos. Denver Broncos for sure. You know, yeaah. For what, you know, you just said there, first off, they overpaid for Mike McGlinchey.


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[Assistant] Well, I thought there was one other offensive lineman that I thought they got.


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[Assistant] Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought those were two certainly significant moves.


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[Assistant] I mean, I guess that was it. They drafted Forsythe of the center from Oregon, uh, in the round seven. But yeah, I don't know why I felt like there was one other addition to that offensive line that I can't recall right now.


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[Assistant] Definitely, right. I saw a comment there yesterday from the Bears, uh, O-line coach talking about like darn all righteous, he's very comfortable and NFL ready. So the game's already moving slowly for him and you kind of saw that on film too when you watched him.


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[Assistant] That was a pretty big, pretty big adjustment. You're right, you're right about that. You're right about that. I think that if there's one marquee move I would look at to go, if just one move, I would go with what we saw in Cincinnati, Orlando Brown. I just think that changes the other four guys on their own line altogether.


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[Assistant] You know, one less spot to worry about. Now we can use all these other guys to...


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[Assistant] You know, figure out who's our best four remaining other than Orlando Brown. I think they got something working there.


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[Assistant] Well yea, they always scare me. I don't know if I want to use the word like overlooked, right? I don't know if I want to go there, but I think-


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[Assistant] I don't put them in the cream of the crop in the AFC. I don't. But between that coaching staff, the improvements to the old line, the way they know how to manage the football game, you know, the defense still being creative and making plays, and I would imagine that was a down year for them. They're gonna be a little chipper this year.


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[Assistant] Again, I don't think I'm going to be picking the Steelers to make the playoffs. I don't think it. I don't think so. But they're one of those teams that I, you know, start going, man, they scare me because they get off to a good start, get a little mojo going, they'll figure out how to play that just right for them and they'll make it work.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I can't clearly look at them right now at this point and just go, oh yeaah, that's one of the most talented teams in the AFC.


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[Assistant] I would think you're gonna be improved in that area. I do. You know, one, you got Eric Kendricks to go there, that middle linebacker, that's gonna help out your football team in a big way, right? So that's exciting. You know, I think you get a guy like, uh, uh, Sebastian Joseph Day, who's another year removed from being, you know,


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[Assistant] The Super Bowl year, he hurt his knee really bad when he was with the Rams. Last year was his first year back as far as being healthy in that department, right? They got Morgan Fox.


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[Assistant] Uh, added him to the defensive line, right? So, I would expect it to be...


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[Assistant] Better this year, I would. And then having all those pieces, it's Khalil Mack's second year. It's gonna be, you know, Kenneth Murray another year in the system and feeling better. Kendricks is a bump up for sure. Yes, I'd be shocked if they're not better in that department.


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[Assistant] Uhm, would I have liked to have seen them have maybe one more big person in the middle of their defense? Yes. I can't lie. I definitely would. But...


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[Assistant] This is one of those teams where I expect a drastic change as far as where they were ranked last year defensively and where they end up this year. Uh, J.C. Jackson's health, of course, is imperative. Joey Bosse's health is imperative. I mean, they were definitely killed by the injury.


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[Assistant] So he's just saying top 8 teams, he just wants top 8 teams.


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[Assistant] I get it. Because again, I think this is, you know, it's like almost back to our quarterback ranking. We just go, well, they had the best record, so they show the best teams. And I just want to go, no, there's a lot of years in history where I could show you the 1988 New York Giants went 10 and six and they were in an unbelievable division that had a bunch of 11 and five and 12 and four teams.


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[Assistant] And they didn't get in the playoffs, and I'd go, they'd kick the shit out of just about everybody in the playoffs except for three teams, right? So that's where the division, to me,


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[Assistant] Comes in handy, right? And the current status or the way it's all set up.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's not perfect, I know. And I know we have years where the division winner is underwhelming and we go, oh, I can't believe they're gonna get to host a football game. There should be a tweak there. There should be a tweak there, I agree, right? And we kinda came to something last year where it's like, if the division winner, who threw out the rule change? Like the Chargers, I wanna say. If the division winner


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[Assistant] Yes, well, in, in Champions League football and how they do it, I mean, isn't there, you know, of course there's, there's more to it, to the point system and all that. It covers it to where the eight teams that are in there should be


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[Assistant] It's the most watched thing on TV in the whole world. I don't think we need to tweak it a whole lot. And I think the system we got going right now is pretty damn good.


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[Assistant] There is something to be said about what you're saying. I just can't wrap my hand around it or get the right structure in my own brain. How about Patrick Mahomes?


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[Assistant] Like we talk about with the NFL and everything else, you know, first off, these are growing kids.


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[Assistant] And sometimes they're not grown to their full potential when they're being recruited and people are trying to get them to come to the big time school when they're in junior and high school. Right? That's where I used to get mad at the University of Texas and this is where their fall off began.


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[Assistant] They were having, they were committing kids their junior year. And I was like, why? We're Texas. Make them wait.


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[Assistant] There's going to be a whole bunch of kids that are going to put on 30 pounds of muscle and become a tenth faster. They're going to be better than the 20 you just committed next year.


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[Assistant] Right? And that was really the fall of the, the Mac Brown era. He started 25 commitments and he had, they had no spots left their senior years, right? Right? So there they were locked into guys where it's, oh wait, this guy's a better player than the guy we already committed now. Oh shit. Right? So that was the end of that.


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[Assistant] So that's what happens here. Growth, and just like anything, sometimes the...


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[Assistant] How good was his team? How much did he throw the ball in college football? What was the level of competition he was going against at that high school in Texas where he was at? So I think all of that plays into it a little bit, right?


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[Assistant] And it's, it's, uh, you just don't get the hype and get it going to where those top, those top schools want you. Or he's not going, there's so many things here. I have deep knowledge of this.


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[Assistant] Of my own life, my brother's life, my brother and dad train all these high school kids, but a guy like Patrick Mahomes, I bet you he wasn't going around to the Elite 11 camp because he was playing baseball.


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[Assistant] And going, no, I'm awesome at third base. I'm not going. Same with Josh Allen. I'm hitting home runs right now. I'm not worried about making a tour and politicizing myself for high school football here. I'm going to be a high school kid. And those all lead to the things.


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[Assistant] We're talking about, you know, as far as the big schools not recruiting him.


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[Assistant] So I don't know, I don't know what division that was in Texas, but it could have been just like Texas Tech. It could have been looked at like, oh, they just throw and nobody's really that good there and it's just stats and how good is he really, right?


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[Assistant] And it's, it's a little side army and all this is, he's unpolished, right? I can see all those things going on as far as the recruiting in my homes. Where it took a guy like Cliff Kingsbury who played a little quarterback to go, wait, that's awesome. And I actually have Baker Mayfield here, but I'm going to push him out the door because


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[Assistant] This guy here is doing freaky things and Alabama and Oklahoma don't want him, so I'll take him. And that's where you gotta give Cliff Kingsbury some credit for sure.


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[Assistant] I like them all. I mean, that's a tough one. So, here's my, like, my first thought is I like Garrett Wilson better than Jackson Smith and Jigba.


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[Assistant] I like Devin Witherspoon more than I like Sauce, but damn, I mean, I like Sauce and Jackson Smith and Jigba. But alright, so who would you? Who would you rather? You got one there? You gotta lean on that one at all?


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[Assistant] The speed and all that. The size of Devin Witherspoon. I think there's more questions. Like, Sauce and Garrett are more...


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[Assistant] Prototypes, we've seen this work in the NFL, right? And then of course we have the rookies of the year and we're just hoping these other guys are the rookie of the year. Right. So we'll see where it goes. I would probably lean Sauce Gardener and Garrett Wilson, uhm, but man it hurts me to say that with my man crush.


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[Assistant] I think the Seahawks are drastically going to be an improved football team.


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[Assistant] The Ravens are the team I'd pick there, okay? I would. The Ravens to me is, you know, we've hit this, for some reason it's come up I feel like the last few weeks when we've talked about, it just, the Ravens could have won the Super Bowl last year, like we said.


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[Assistant] The Ravens are one of the few teams last year where they go, oh no, they can be on the field with the Eagles and be okay. You know, I don't think I would have picked them to win the Super Bowl, but, you know, healthy Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] Right? And, and like I, I've said this a few times lately, just, they were on the one yard line, up seven, against the Bengals, going in to go up 14. Yeah. Right. I mean, it's, it was late in the third quarter, the game, or maybe even early fourth. I mean, it was, so it wasn't like, you know, that Ravens team was damn, damn good.


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[Assistant] I have, I had it pulled up on a tab and I was like, wait, that really bothered me that I didn't really get a, so the Broncos were for sure a good one, right? But as I sat here a little bit more to do some research, I just want to dive back into that. The Washington commanders are another team where I'd go, they deserve a little credit.


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[Assistant] Got Nick, Nick Gates from the New York Giants, right? So that's big for them. Got an interior lineman. Got Andrew Wiley, the tackle from the Kansas City Chiefs to help out their football team.


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[Assistant] Uh, Trenton Scott, they add him to the group as well. So those are, that's this one spot where I'd say that, that jumps out to me, okay? Sorry about that, that was my colum, my only


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. I, I, I don't disagree with you there. I don't, I don't. That's, that's a good one. I know. I don't, I don't know who it would be. That might be the one though. I, it's gotta be.


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[Assistant] And most of these guys are sports junkies. That happens. I thought of Mahomes for a second just because Mahomes watches everything and comments on everything on social media. So he'll at least have like thoughts and opinions for you, but he might not say anything as harsh as Baker would like me. Right, I agree.


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[Assistant] Jim Dye? He wrote D-I-E-E. He died twice in Jersey. You go to Jersey, you die twice, okay?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, you know, we take a lot of pride in New Jersey, you know, pizza. New York, New Jersey pizza.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I think is the best in the country and I think especially Italian food in general, right? Like if you ask my dad, like the best Italian restaurant he's ever been to.


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[Assistant] He's been to Rome, like, multiple times. He's gonna tell you it's a place in New Jersey, right? Right? That he loves, like, Arturo's. That's our restaurant. It's not a pizza place. Best Pizzeria in Bergen County, New Jersey. I'm going with Kinchley's in Ramsey. Go ahead, look it up. Kinchley. K-I-N-C-H.


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[Assistant] L-E-Y, I think it's an L-E-Y, it might be just an L-Y, but it should pop up in Ramsey, New Jersey. It's thin crust, right? It's perfection. You know, it's one of those where it's so good, it's awesome, one, there was a disgruntled something that happened, and one of the


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[Assistant] Very similar pizza, but it's not quite as good as Kinchley's. So Kinchley's is my, uh,


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[Assistant] The Sims Family go to spot. The website says New Jersey's number one thin crust pizza. It's, it's, it's legit. I promise you, you will not be disappointed if you are anywhere in Northern New Jersey, close to New Jersey, New York border, right? 287 Garden State Parkway up there.


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[Assistant] It's not far from that area. You could, you could be there in a, in a moment's time. Driving from here. How long is it? Driving from here. It's actually for here. It's not the worst in Connecticut. You go over the tap and Z. You'd probably be there in, you know, 25, 30 minutes. No way. No traffic. Really? From here? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, my parents only lived like 35 miles from here. Okay. So it's, it's not, it's not a long haul. Uh, you know how everything's so tightly packed up here in the north.


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[Assistant] There's gotta be a less of a power element, right? With no shoe on though. I mean- Yea, why did those people do that? I don't- I guess they felt like they had control over it better, but yea, when I watch back old games and see that, I go, you guys look-


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[Assistant] Ridiculous. You're walking around like that. Like, yeah. Ridiculous. Why are you kicking? My dad, they won a damn Super Bowl because George Carlos is missing field goals, barefoot kicker for the Broncos. I mean, he shanked two early on in the football game when they kind of had the momentum.


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[Assistant] I'll look at it, the questions before I get on air so I don't have to go back and look at it again, right? For the Denver Broncos offensive line and that type of stuff. But everybody enjoy the weekend, alright? Be good, be safe out there. The weather's getting good.


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[Assistant] I know I've been enjoying it. I got a little tan right now. Not as tan as you. You got tan out there in Kentucky. Yeah, well we all are, hopefully. But everybody be good. Hit us up. We'll see you Monday. Clap it up.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah, baby. What's up? It's Chris Sims. I'm buttoned. I am here. Ahmed Farid is here. It's the day after Easter. It's a Monday. I'm tired. I had too much candy. I drank a little too much alcohol.


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[Assistant] I've been having that problem lately on Sundays. Too much alcohol? I don't know what it is I've been doing on Sundays lately where I think I drink coffee too late in the day.


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[Assistant] I think, I don't know, I wake up a little later on a Sunday morning, take your time, right? Do all that.


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[Assistant] And I have a hard time falling into a deep sleep. And I don't know what the hell the deal is. Well, I do know what the hell the deal is. I think I just said it. But I need to contain myself.


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[Assistant] It's only been 30 minutes. It's 1055 and then it's like, oh, it's 1130 and then it's 12 and it's like, I don't know if I ever really slept


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[Assistant] When I'm in the heat of my car, and I'm gonna go, damn, I'm tired, and then I'm gonna go, damn, I got a lot of draft guys to watch, so you better suck that shit up and let's go. Just as long as it doesn't hit you.


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[Assistant] Tackle on the offensive side of the ball. And then on defense, I think you're right. To me it would be edge or de-tackles.


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[Assistant] You know, and I think you look at the, you look at the top sock artists in football.


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[Assistant] You know, the one thing that does jump out to me when I was kinda going through this edge and looking at the guys in the draft, of course you got the freaky guys, the Nick Bosa's and the Miles Garrett and all that.


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[Assistant] But the other thing you start to realize is that this day and age right now too is, you know, the Javon Hargraves, the Doron Paynes, the Quinn and Williams, right? They're no longer just like, oh, they're big guys. They're just like, guys, we go up, it's 10 sacks every year. It's 11 sacks every year. Chris Jones, oh, okay, yep, it's every year.


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[Assistant] So, the opposition in general, D-Line, I think with the current state of the NFL, I think you're onto something, and if you just told me D-Line was the second most important thing other than quarterback and football, I'd go, I don't think that's crazy at all. Cool. Not at all. I mean, especially, look at the teams we just watched in the Final Four for our sport.


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[Assistant] They got great D-lines. The Eagles, the Niners, didn't get any better. The Chiefs and the Bengals is damn good on both sides of the, in the department too. So, uh, I, I think your thought is, is pretty spot on right now.


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[Assistant] Exactly right. You're never out, you're never out manned or have to go into a spot when you have it down the defensive line and go, oh, we have to do this or we're screwed.


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[Assistant] In fact, it's actually the opposite. It's like, we don't even have to do that. We can still stop the run. We don't even have to play a single safety defense. We can protect our corners the whole game, right?


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[Assistant] So it is, it's almost the exact opposite of that. That's what it does. It gives you a fighting chance against just about anybody.


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[Assistant] And then like you're talking about too, yeah, it makes life of the secondary guys easy too. We see so many guy every year we see guys are, oh, he's a top rated corner. And I want to go, not really. He just on a top rated defense with the best pass rush.


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[Assistant] And so the quarterback's only holding it for 1.5 seconds. I'd be a damn good corner in some of those defenses too. You know, I don't know about that yet. How dare you?


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[Assistant] Oh, that's comforting. You mean Pete, who's like, 9 out of 10 messed up bets during the season, picking games between me and Florio and stuff. That's the guy that we got double checking. Actually, he's not that bad.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, definitely. And you know, I'll even say that year when I was getting into this business too, I had TJ Watt, you know, down the list here a little bit. Derrick Barnett was not my favorite. He definitely would not have been my fourth in that round there. Jonathan Allen, you know, he was a little bit of a


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[Assistant] Uh, a hybrid in a different way from Hassan Reddick and it was like D tackle D end. He doesn't always get to rush the passer. So what should we really look at him as? Right? You know, and, uh, sometimes those guys don't get the value and that's part of what we'll talk about today.


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[Assistant] You know, some of these guys we're going to talk about on the edge, they're, they're asked to do different things on the edge compared to, you know, each other and stacking them up that way, so.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, you gotta take that into account and like we talked about last year with Trayvon Walker, right? Trayvon Walker...


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[Assistant] Almost at no point during the year ever got to line up wide and rush the passer. It was always like, I'm head up on the tackle and I have to control him and I'm never allowed to rush the passer. So that's some of the piecing together you got to do with this, this position when you, when you evaluate it. Was Kyle there in 2017?


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[Assistant] You know, he was, I liked him, alright? And, you know, he was fresh off the Michael Bennett of the Seahawks conversation, right?


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[Assistant] Where, if you remember, I mean, Michael Bennett, when I first started in the business at Bleacher Report and doing all that, when I started up


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[Assistant] the play up, it started with Michael Bennett. Cause I kept going, you know, I had to do like my bleacher report all pro team, right?


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[Assistant] And then Michael Bennett would be like, first team to tackle. People would be like, why? He's only had three sacks this year. And I want to go turn on a game and nobody ruins plays more than Michael Bennett.


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[Assistant] I don't, other than J.J. Watt, he ruined the game, right? And he watched America's game 2014 when the Patriots played the Seahawks. If you watch that game, watch that show back, you see the Seahawks, all the Patriots were concerned about in that game was Michael Bennett.


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[Assistant] All the stars in the Seahawks, all they could talk about and consumed with was, we can't block Michael Bennett, how do we block this guy, right? So that's where he was that kind of guy. I liked him coming out. Now,


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[Assistant] You know, my favorite guy in that draft was number 15 in red.


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[Assistant] Uh, in my homes. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yes, but yes, that was Kyle's first pick.


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[Assistant] Uh, and Solomon Thomas, and they played that Seattle defense, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I did, I was like, you don't want to take my homes as a number two pick? I did come out of my mouth at one point, yes, yes. And now he would say yes, I do actually want to do that.


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[Assistant] Like maybe I should have had him at five, but I, I, I feel justified in my questioning of Kayvon Thibodeau. I like the guy and the player and of course he plays for the Giants. I'm rooting for him.


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[Assistant] He certainly wasn't as good as the top two guys. I can tell you that for sure. Nor was he as good as George Karlaftas. And the way Jermaine Johnson looked at the end of the year...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I have questions about Kayvon Thibodeau, the pass rusher. Period. You know that. I think a lot of people do.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's a reason when we did the Washington Giants Sunday night football game, in the pregame, Rodney was like, Kavon Thibodeau's gotta be a better pass rusher.


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[Assistant] Right, Rodney Harrison. So the, we gotta see what he can do, but as it looked that- He played well that game. He played, that was his best game of the year.


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[Assistant] That was the first half where he made a bunch of plays and all that.


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[Assistant] I am, uh, but no, the questions still remain there. And yeaah, the bend and the first step


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[Assistant] Uh, ability to rush the passer, which I'm gonna edge on those things a little bit more that I like and I think are more tried and true to be proven and work in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Got some work to do as a pass rusher, but he's still a damn good pass rusher. He's such a big human being. He's so quick and he's such a good football player. And then again,


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[Assistant] Disrupted. Don't worry about the stats. There's so many plays every game where you go, wait, who was that big **** white guy that just broke through the line of scrimmage and the running back had to go different? Oh, that was Hutchinson. And he didn't get the tackle, he didn't get sack or whatever, but he ruined the play. And you see that a lot with, uh, Aiden Hutchinson.


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[Assistant] Right, it's not as much around the bend around the corner like Von Miller or whatever, it's a little different type of guy, right? So yeaah, I mean, listen, they're all good.


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[Assistant] It's, it's again about what you're gonna value and then okay, you know, how can they put it all together on the football field here? What do you value? Well, of course I edge on the pass rush. That's the first thing we're talking about. Like you just talked about to start the comp, you know, the, the, the pod here.


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[Assistant] Maybe the second most important position in football. Not only is it important to stopping the run.


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[Assistant] Yeah, of course we know it's a passing game right now. Hey, add it on to that. You know what else is really popular right now? The read option, right? Oh, I gotta stop the runner, I gotta go tackle the quarterback. You better have some freaky guys on the edge to go do that, right? So you got that aspect.


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[Assistant] You gotta, you gotta have a guy that goes, oh wait, they threw a receiver screen at the AJ Brown out there. I need you to now turn around and go make the tackle for a three yard gain. You can't let AJ Brown escape that first wave or your gun.


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[Assistant] You know, this is a, we're talking about a special specimen type of football player. So, you know, and there's different ways to do this. You have your true edge speed pass rush type of football guys, right? And then you can have your JJ Watt.


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[Assistant] Who's an edge guy, but has a little bit of an interior, interior defensive line, you know, versatility.


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[Assistant] And a little different type of edge guy, maybe than your pure, traditional Lawrence Taylor, Von Miller. So, you know, again, a scheme comes into this, but ultimately, what's the number one thing I want to see? I want to see motherf-


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[Assistant] Get after the quarterback. That's what we want to see. And at this position, you have to be more times than not if you want to be a top notch one, right?


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[Assistant] Freaks. These are your freaks of nature in the NFL locker room. When you go into a, and you're on a good football team, and you go in and go,


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[Assistant] Wait, I'm on the Bucks. Whoa! Okay, that Simeon Rice. Whoa! Holy shit, I've never seen a guy like that before. Holy shit, is he tall? And his shoulders are broad.


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[Assistant] And holy crap, his legs are long. And whoa, he can run like that? That's what the NFL pass pressure, or what my dad would say when they'd walk in a locker room with Lawrence Taylor. Holy crap. Lawrence, can you slow down? You're ruining practice today, right? You know.


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[Assistant] Nick Bosa. If you saw Nick Bosa in person, you'd go, damn, is he the thickest muscle?


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[Assistant] Right? He's got like a Cro-Magnum head and muscles. He came out of a cave and was like, I'll go get quarterback. This is the kind of guys you're talking about. And I'm saying that jokingly. He knows that and hopefully everybody knows that.


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[Assistant] A lot of good, a lot of good here. I think, uhm, I will say the, the class, uhm,


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[Assistant] It's got a lot of some tweeners on the edge. Where guys where I go, I don't know if this guy can really be a true 4-3 defense end. He might have to be an outside linebacker, maybe a stand up linebacker who just rushes passers. He has some of that, right? Of course he got a little bit of everything too. Uhm, but I think the thing too is,


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[Assistant] I wasn't as talented of a group as I was expecting. Not by, because of the combine numbers. We came here after the combine numbers and I was like, oh my gosh, it just seems like, I can't wait to watch this group. It's going to be one freak after another. Right? There's, there's some freaks. We're going to hit on that for sure.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of guys where I went, oh, look at those numbers in the combine. Turn on the film and go, damn, that's, that's not the same speed of the combine right there.


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[Assistant] Or that's, or, or, mm, okay, this guy's got good numbers, but damn, he's kinda just a straight-line guy. He's not that great of a player, right? There was some of that too.


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[Assistant] So, uh, little all over the place, but I do think we got some difference makers, and especially at the top, we got some, I think, slam dunks can't miss, uh, when you're talking about that, that department. Well, let's do that. Let's do it. Let's start right at the top here.


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[Assistant] Like, yeaah, mine might surprise some people here right off the bat. This is not like, again, like I've tried to explain to you, where it's like, Zach Wilson vs. Trevor, the whole world likes Trevor, and I'm just a little different, and then I like Zach, right?


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[Assistant] Like, we've talked about some other positions where I go, no, people are going to watch this and then go, oh, no, no, this is, this isn't like Chris Sims taking a hot take or trying, this is like, this is the fact of the matter, right?


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[Assistant] It's just like Bijan Robinson is the number one running back. Yes, he is the number one. Or like we've had a little bit with like, I said Hendon Hooker, right? I said they're gonna watch, everyone's gonna watch Hendon Hooker. This isn't me with a hot.


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[Assistant] This is, people are gonna watch Hen and Hooker and go, no, he's, he is a top 15 pick and now you're seeing that he's being discussed like that all the time. Same with Zay Flowers, there's other guys that we've talked about here where I just go, yes, the film is undeniable here. These aren't like, ooh, I'm just seeing it a little different or this isn't my cup of tea if I'm explaining that the right way.


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[Assistant] It is Tyree Wilson from Texas Tech. Let me just say, it's a no-brainer. It's a no-brainer. He's definitely the best edge pass rusher in this draft.


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[Assistant] If you want to think about Myles Garrett or that type of football player, that's what we're talking about here. If there was a number, if the team at number one needed a pass rusher, we'd be talking about this guy being the number one pick. This guy is, this is, this is, this is, I wrote at one point, duh, no brainer. Like there's no debate here.


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[Assistant] I haven't watched Deep Tackles yet, but the Arizona Cardinals are gonna take Tyree Wilson at number three. Just lock it in. They might as well hand it in now. You've watched Chris Simpson's own button. Hand it in. Alright? I mean, he's got everything, man. I mean, first off, elite first step.


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[Assistant] For a guy that's 6'6", has incredible bend around the edge, bends like a guy that's like a 6'3 or 6'4 pass rusher.


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[Assistant] You know, has everything you want. Explosion, strength, length, ability to move side to side. He can do it all. Plays physical.


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[Assistant] We don't need to break this down real long. This one, it's not close. It's not. This guy is a special, special football player and I'm just telling everybody out there, this isn't Chris Simms hot take, this will be the number one edge guy off the board.


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[Assistant] Hands down, no-brainer, duh. And he's awesome. He's built like a Trayvon Walker, but he gets to pat- rush the passer.


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[Assistant] More than Trayvon Walker, and I'm not sure if he's not a more natural pass rusher than Trayvon Walker is. Maybe not quite.


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[Assistant] The physical specimen maybe, but as a pure pass rusher, I like a lot of his movements and body positions and things he does, uh, even more than Trayvon Walker, who was the number one pick last year in the draft.


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[Assistant] Like this is one of those where you go, well, I watch five plays. I'm kind of good. I know how awesome it's going to be, but let's just keep watching because it's fun to watch. Right? That's what it is with him. You know, so that, that's, and that to me speaks to, you know, first guy off the board or whatever, but Hey, at the end of the day, you know,


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[Assistant] We know explosion and strength are really important for the pass rush, but the thing that's maybe, you know, right up there with it is the length, right? And his length is special.


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[Assistant] And that's pretty, you know, tried and true as far as top tier pass rushers in football. You gotta have that certain length and his arms are like ridiculous. Well exactly.


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[Assistant] Holy crap. Like, I mean, not only the shoulders are broad as hell, but the arms are long as hell. There's power, there's, you know,


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[Assistant] Bendability, flexibility, fluidity, however you want to say it. And what I mean by that is like, you know, he can wiggle his way as a pass rusher and shake somebody that way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's just nothing to not like about the football player, like I talked about. This is just a natural gifted athlete, pass rusher. He's definite top five pick and will be absolutely shocked if he doesn't go to the Cardinals at number three.


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[Assistant] Yeah, not at all. You know, guys like that, when you have that long of arms, I mean, uh, you know, bench presses, that's difficult for them.


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[Assistant] And now the arms are extended as he punches into the tackle. It's over. The tackle has no, he can't get his hands on.


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[Assistant] Tyree and then Tyree because of the levers is so strong at that locked out arm position that you're basically at his mercy. So no, the, the power and all that and you know, bench press, again, it's got some value.


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[Assistant] To what you see there, whatever, but it's not an end all be all, and like I've told you, I mean I've been around some pass rushers who can bench 225 very much either. Yea, it's the short arm dudes that are bouncing it off their chest, 5 or 6 inches. Yes, with a short arm is exactly right, is the guy that usually


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[Assistant] No, college football, college football is different, alright? And that's where people, like, the double digit sack numbers, a lot of the time, first off, like, all you gotta do is watch a game, all they worry about is blocking him, okay? That's all, he's the only buddy anybody's concerned with. So, here's that. And then college football, you know, there's very few teams that,


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[Assistant] There was really only 8 or 10 of those passes where you had a chance to really rush the passer. Everything was, oh, it was a quick slant, or it's a screen, or it's an RPO, and it's like, he didn't really have as many opportunities, even though it says 45 passes,


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[Assistant] The traditional, wait, my Holmes is in the pocket, Joe burrows in the pocket. I got some time to work and you use my magic around the edge. It just doesn't go on in college football other than a few teams, right? Everything else is, you know, it's, it's gadgets and bull crap and whatever else. So the NFL is really more conducive to these guys.


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[Assistant] You know, and the drop back pass game and hey, let's hold the ball an extra second later because Josh Allen can throw this shit 70 yards. So let's wait an extra second because Devon Diggs will be down there. Oh, there's Tyree Wilson. Sack, fumble, right? So that's where the game is more conducive.


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[Assistant] We're going to get into some guys here where I'm going to go, every sack the guy got, the quarterback held it for five seconds or, you know, it was a, he didn't really beat a guy. It was a stunt or whatever else. And I didn't want to go, okay, go, his production's better than the guy that we have at number one.


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[Assistant] Like, no way can you watch the film and go, he's the same specimen as that guy. And, you know, that's why we, yea, you can't get too deep into that type of stuff there.


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[Assistant] I do. I do. Because again, the things that are not coachable, they're there. So that's what I love. I want to go, well yea, you don't have to coach them to run 4-4 off the edge and have an unbelievable long first step to get around the edge. Or the bend, that's over, right?


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[Assistant] So, yes, I'm in favor of that too because now it's like, okay, wait, he's been getting


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[Assistant] You know, some intricate pass rushing moves that he's gonna learn when he gets to the NFL because, hey, like we always talk about, there's just more time, you got people that...


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[Assistant] You know, you got other veterans who've been taught by other players and coaches who can now teach you a few things and your life just goes into, wait, pass rush, hand to hand combat, spin moves, and that's all you do and there's nothing else to worry about and that's where there'll be great growth. So yes, I'd rather have the


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[Assistant] Rawr, if you give me one or the other, I'd go, yeaah, I'd probably rather have the guy that's, yeaah, got some room to grow in that department as into, oh, he's already mature and he's like a five year veteran using his hands.


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[Assistant] One homie, sure, yes. Number, I mean, number three, let's see, we got the, uh, we got the Colts at four, at five, uhm, the Seahawks, right? So, I mean, I could see them doing that too. Like, to me, the way it looks right now, and again, I haven't done D-Tackles, right? But I would go...


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[Assistant] Whoever the Cardinals take, the Seahawks take the other one. The Cardinals took Jalen Carter? Oh, then the Seahawks are taking Tyree Wilson. Tyree Wilson. Oh, wait, wait. The Cardinals took Tyree Wilson? Oh, then the Seahawks are taking Jalen Carter. That's kinda how I feel it's gonna go there.


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[Assistant] Don't get it messed up. This is the best pass rusher in this draft and he will be the number one pass rusher off the board. Guarantee it. Lock stock, two smoke and barrels, done.


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[Assistant] Well, these guys are really good. Wilson's just to me, like I said, it's like, it's duh. That's where he is. It's just like duh. Now these guys are really awesome, and it's still...


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[Assistant] You know, high ceiling, high floor guys. I don't know if their ceiling can go quite as high as Wilson. Wilson has a type of talent to be like Miles Garrett and lead the NFL in sacks every year of his career. Like, or be in that conversation, right? That's rare. These other guys, yeaah, there's some of that, but there's also I think maybe


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[Assistant] You know, a flaw too, I could bring to the table with each one of these guys too, to where, you know, that's where they're not in the same tier. Like Wilson,


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[Assistant] He's, he's slam. These guys, there's limited questions, but there are a few.


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[Assistant] But there's some high end superstar stuff here that I love in this tier 2 group.


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[Assistant] John Ness, aka Hercules from Iowa. Yea, got to meet him at the Combine. Great guy, great player.


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[Assistant] Uhm, to paint a picture, right? No, this is where we get into. This isn't your traditional just, oh, wind up, line up wide and get after the pass rusher. No, this is a little bit more.


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[Assistant] Of the JJ Watt type of guy here, alright?


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[Assistant] Little bit more of, yeaah, he could play 4-3 defense end, but he could play 3-4 defense end and be head up on a, you know, offensive tackle, right? He could play some outside linebacker. He's out athletic enough to do it. That's not what you really want him to do, but ultimately he's a 4-3 strong side end, a 3-4 defense end that's head up on the tackle or


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[Assistant] Hey, it's a third down or we have another speed rusher winning on the field. Now go to three technique and just abuse that guard on the inside, right? He's going to be able to do that. Tyree Wilson is going to be able to do that as well.


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[Assistant] Yes, this guy's different than Tyree Wilson, where Tyree Wilson, I said, is Miles Garrett. This guy is more along the lines of, like I said, a, a JJ Watt.


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[Assistant] I asked him about this. This is, and I knew about it already, uhm, but I always got a thing of like,


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[Assistant] The guys who have been there and, like, are four years seniors and played whatever, they start. They start the game. They don't care if you're Hercules or not. You gotta wait a snap or two. We're gonna let the guys who've put in the hard work and paid their time and done all the things right, you know, within their program.


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[Assistant] They get to start the football game and then on the second or third play, you can roll in, but somebody, somebody else who's older than you has done more here.


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[Assistant] You know, gets to do that. And he was fine with that. That's just the way they roll. They're old school that way.


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[Assistant] He's kinda got a, a packing order, uh, as far as that goes. But yeah, it, it doesn't really matter, Ahmed, when he came in.


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[Assistant] Maybe they should. If they're letting up a lot of like first play touchdowns, they definitely need to reconsider. But, you know,


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[Assistant] First off, for a guy like, right, he's, he's explosive, he's 270, he ran 458, right, he's got the long arms that we just talked about with Tyree Wilson, not as long as Tyree, but 34 inch arms, right, you know, he's,


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[Assistant] He's first off a little more power based like you talked about. So his ability to like hold the ground against double teams or do the two gapping we're talking about. He's really damn good in that department. His play strength is off the charts.


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[Assistant] And yes, his pass rushing might not be, you know, what we picture as far as, you know, TJ Watt arm rip around the edge. He can do that. He can.


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[Assistant] Now he's not put in that, this is where, you know, it's not always fair. He's not put in that position to do that a whole lot, where you go, hey, get a little wider and really get ready to get off and just go. Because,


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[Assistant] You know, when you see him do that, he's got speed. He's got speed to power. He knows how to use his hands a little bit. He's just got straight power. So, you know, really again, this is a guy where he has a very high floor and his ceiling


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[Assistant] Is pretty damn high too, but they're like the, the, he is not going to be a bust. He is going to be a good football player for a long time. And I'm betting that it's better than good. It's really damn good. And he's kind of one of the better hybrid defense alignment at all football.


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[Assistant] I know, right. That's what I mean. So you can piece that together with some of the pass rushing stuff you'd see too, right? Cause you'd see him like on the edge of a guard and he's going upfield and his inside arm he'd be like, I'm just gonna push you away so I can go back underneath. And he does it with ease.


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[Assistant] To beat 272 and like you said, you watch a number of snaps where he's playing D tackle and he's like got double teams from two, a 300 pounder and a 300 pounder and he holds his ground, right? I think his strength is off the charts good. So yeah, will it be a little bit of adjustment period and all that? Sure.


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[Assistant] There will be, but he's also going to be put in some more positions to succeed more than at Iowa too. You know, sometimes what happens with guys like this, they're just like, well, you're such a freak. You could play shade nose this week. Play nose tackle.


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[Assistant] J.J. Watt is of course the extreme, and J.J. Watt's like in a special room with Deon Sanders at the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Uhm, Zach Adlin, maybe a little from, uh, the Arizona Cardinals, who the Denver Broncos just paid a huge contract to.


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[Assistant] Right? It's that kind of guy. Draymond Jones, right? Who just got huge money. Went from Denver to the Seattle Seahawks on like a 50, 60 million dollar deal. It's that kind of guy, right?


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[Assistant] So it's, it's more, yeaah, power and strength based on the edge, and then disruptive coming inside a little bit, but can do everything. He's kind of a, a gnomist pros, prospect who's...


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[Assistant] You know, again, I'm gonna say, made for the NFL in 2023, different way, uh, different way than guys like Nolan Smith or, you know, Tyree Wilson, but he's got no weakness. His strength and his athleticism and length are all elite. His speed to power is real. It's not great speed.


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[Assistant] But, it's great power, dude brings it, can do it all.


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[Assistant] Exactly right. And like, you know, you would never guess that by watching him on film, like you just said, or the highlights you see, because like he is the master of having people in like a locked out bench press position where you go, oh, that guy's screwed, and Van Ness can do whatever he wants with him in that position.


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[Assistant] Hey, at the end of the day, that's one where, you know, nobody's gonna question it. Like we've heard Dan Campbell say,


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[Assistant] The Pajama Olympics or whatever else. Like, the, the film is, nobody's gonna care about his 17 reps on the bench. Cause you're just gonna go, well he's benching people off of him all game long in every game. So, that's where he's really good. And to him, you know,


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[Assistant] Because his ability to kinda get skinny and shoot through gaps that way or, like, even, you know, again, I'm big into this. Because...


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[Assistant] Like life in the NFL is not perfect. Where you're going to get into spots where you're going to drive off the ball on an offensive tackle.


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[Assistant] And he's going to win that initial, like that initial contact, right? And you're going to be, oh, like, you know how sometimes you see like Lyman bend in like a weird position?


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[Assistant] He can get in that position and then still come back and win the battle to where he's like, oh no, he's getting bent in a weird position and all of a sudden he's just like, rawr, Hercules. And he throws the guy off of him and makes the play. And that's, that's a special attribute because you're going to be stuck in some of those weird positions when you play in the NFL defensive line. That's for sure.


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[Assistant] I don't know, we're, you know, splash players, see, we're, I think you gotta be careful with like,


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[Assistant] Them too is, what is he being asked to do, the positions, right? So, yeaah, he could, you could have a number of plays where you go, well okay, yeaah, he's playing, they put him a three technique for five plays in a row. Yeaah. And yeaah.


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[Assistant] You know, he's just holding his ground in double teams or getting off blocks and making a tackle for a one yard gain or whatever else. But man, I don't know. I see it all with this guy and we'll be.


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[Assistant] He is a top 15 pick. There's no doubt he goes in the top 15 for my money. And again, I don't think I'm saying anything crazy there. I think that's when it's all said and done. I think that's where the NFL will see it as well.


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[Assistant] It's, uh, you know, I don't know. He doesn't need to hate on Mike, uh, on, uh, Van Ness, Lucas Van Ness over this. But I mean, yeah. Is this like one of those drills that's like...


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[Assistant] You know, is there great value in that, or am I like, oh woah, look at that. It's just like getting your life conducive in the NFL, what it's like, working on hand speed, how flush you can hit it, how quickly can you readjust your feet to get to the next target. It's just a drill.


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[Assistant] He won the pajama Olympics. He did. And he was one that when you went, damn, the pajama Olympics made me look at them and think highly of them. And then when you turn on the film, you go, oh yeah, that's right. I mean, when you want to talk about


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[Assistant] So this is your guy. This is your guy that has a chance to be Von Miller or let's just say, I don't want to say, you know, Von of course was the number two pick of the draft. Let's say Hassan Reddick.


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[Assistant] Who's been kicking ass for the last three years and kicked ass to the Eagles last year, right? That's what he is. This is, yes, arguably the most explosive person in this draft. It really is. Let alone, like,


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[Assistant] Just get low. Oh, I'm going this way. Wait. Oh, tackle. I got you to go upfield. Now I'm going to cut underneath like a running back and go the other way and go get the quarterback there. First step. You know, the bend we talk about that's so important.


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[Assistant] This is a 330 pound tackle and he's setting the edge with one arm and like, wait, if you run outside here, I'm gonna throw you with the one arm and then go run down that running back. No problem, right?


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[Assistant] I mean, it's just, there's nothing athletically you'll worry about with this guy at all. There's nothing strength wise you worry about with this guy at all.


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[Assistant] Now you just gotta worry about what positions you put him in, because yeaah, he's not the biggest human being in the world, but when you talk about pure athleticism, speeds, explosion, all of that, man, Nolan Smith is, is about as good as it gets in that department.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was cool. It was. I mean, you know, one, he's fresh off a pectoral injury.


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[Assistant] I mean, do you remember us having that conversation? Remember? He got off the phone and was like, damn, I could have run faster than that. That was like, that was as slow as it gets for me. 439.


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[Assistant] Right? So yeaah, this is, you know, again, I said Hassan Reddick, Von Miller, Micah Parsons, right? It's that type of guy. Yeaah, can play stand-up linebacker.


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[Assistant] You know, can be 3-4 outside linebacker. Oh wait, it's 3rd and 12 now. We need you to be like a wide nine technique, like a Seattle Nick Bosa type pass rusher. Just use your speed and your bend around the edge. I mean,


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[Assistant] Like, it's all, the movement's off the charts good. Great bend, change of direction, you know, play strength is great, uh, can turn the corner with bend, or stick his foot in the ground and turn the corner too, which I mean, like, you know, there's bend of like, I'm low when I'm coming around the bend, and then every now and then there's,


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[Assistant] Like, I'm coming around the edge and I didn't get to get in that low position because maybe the lineman punched me so I had to stay up. I didn't get to get low like that.


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[Assistant] Alright, so now I just gotta win with my speed and then I gotta be able to like, maybe put my foot in the ground like a receiver and turn the corner to get to the quarterback. Like he can do all of that.


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[Assistant] I mean, he plays hard, he's physical, he'll take on anybody, right?


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[Assistant] You know, he can get, like I told you in some of the positions that only top tier NFL pass rushers can get in.


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[Assistant] You know, again, that's that bend I'm talking about, that Lawrence Taylor, Von Miller, Khalil Mack position where you go. Is that like a speed skater, you know, on the inside lane who puts his hand down on the ground as he's going around the corner? It's almost like that. And that ability for him is as good as you're gonna find. That's so fun watching speed skating when they do that, right? And they hit those little cones.


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[Assistant] These guys have those kind of legs and ass like that to do that kind of stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and it's a fair thing. Again, you know, like we said, it's a big person's game. And he's gonna be out on the edge there playing against the biggest people on planet Earth.


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[Assistant] So that's a fair concern. I mean, that would concern me too. You know, and then he got hurt this year as you saw. You know, but, uh, it's one of those, again, where


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[Assistant] I think he's a top 15 pick, right? And he's only gonna get, he's only gonna get bigger and stronger.


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[Assistant] Right, and Pete, maybe you could tell me off the top of my head here, but like, or I can even look, Hassan Reddick, what was he at the combine? You know, I know he was, Hassan Reddick is definitely one of the best edge guys in football, right?


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[Assistant] I bet you, I wanna say, at the combine, he was like 230-something. Now he's a grown man, right? And he's above 240, so now he's not an edge guy that's under 240.


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[Assistant] I think he could, yea. That's why I did write the Micah Parsons thing down, right? You know? If you have a 4-3 team wanting to take him and just said,


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[Assistant] Let him play stand up linebacker, then on third downs we'll, you know, slowly get him into playing that position.


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[Assistant] But we'll see, what's gonna happen is exactly what happened to Hassan Reddick. I mean, not Hassan Reddick, or yea, Hassan Reddick, but more Micah Parsons is what I was trying to go for. We're gonna go, oh yea, stand-up linebacker's good, but holy shit, he's amazing and nobody can block him on the edge. Let's stop that stand-up linebacker shit and just let him go after the quarterback every play.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you better be freaky in those other areas to overcome the areas that are not that freaky looking. And you're right, yeah. Micah Parsons, just to go back to that, 6'3", 245, right? So this guy's inch shorter, seven pounds lighter.


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[Assistant] Definitely faster. I can say that with, and Micah's the man, don't get me wrong. Yeah. His ten is, I mean his first step is, it's, it's as good as elite receivers in the NFL, right? This kid. And then, believe it or not, he has more length.


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[Assistant] He's got a longer arm than Michael Parsons too, which bodes well. You know, but this guy, these guys like to me, again, even though you worry about that,


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[Assistant] Right? And this is where guys like him can come into, oh wait, I can cover that tight end man to man or I can be another pass rusher, whatever, or I can be a stand up linebacker and I can play zone coverage. And that's where these guys have great value too. It's not just as a pass rusher. We have some of his pro day video so we can scout live on the pod. Yea, let's see it. I saw a few of these clips, I mean.


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[Assistant] You know what I want to say right away. What is that? Look at those thighs. Hell yea. I mean look, if you want to know why he's turning the corner at 4-3.


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[Assistant] It's cause he's got thighs like that, and dude, the dude brings it. I just want everybody to know. This ain't some like, pretty boy fast pass rush or anything like that.


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[Assistant] Schools, there's no more school. School is football.


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[Assistant] Lift more weights. Eat more nutrition. He's gonna be 245 by the time training camp comes. And it's gonna be 7 pounds of muscle. And he won't run 439 anymore. He'll run 4395. Okay? But he'll be 7 pounds stronger and be better off.


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[Assistant] This guy's got it all, man. He really does. And it's just amazing. You know, I just think, I'm sitting there thinking to him, I'm just going, damn Georgia. I mean, are they unbelievable, Georgia?


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[Assistant] Trayvon Walker, him, Jalen Carter, two details of tackles last year went in the first round. I mean, you know, a line, another stand up linebacker went in the first round last year. What they're doing right now is historic. I mean, it really is. They got, and they got, you know, like,


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[Assistant] Letting me, how do I play this play? How do we, how do you do, how do you adjust to that? That's the stuff that the young kid has, you know, has to, doesn't have the advantage of against a veteran player in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Damn, long praying mantis. That's who he is. You guys wanna know, you know who he is? This is in all honesty, this is exactly it. He's Leonard Floyd, right? Leonard Floyd


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[Assistant] The number, what was he, sixth pick of the Chicago Bears? Who, I just would like to say, was awesome every year with the Chicago Bears. It's just, since he was the sixth pick, they all thought it should be 15 sacks a year, and that's not what he is. But he's been awesome with the Rams.


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[Assistant] And he flirts around that nine, ten sacks every year. I think last year Leonard Floyd was around nine or ten.


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[Assistant] Defense a tackle almost in the Big 12. If not defense a tackle, they play a three down front with Iowa and he plays head up on the tackle at 239 pounds and never loses a physical battle.


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[Assistant] Right? So here's your guy of totally played out of position in college, but it didn't even matter and he still was stellar at it. You're going like, wait, this guy shouldn't be playing here and doing this, but they still can't block him. And he's still throwing people around and doing all that.


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[Assistant] Like, I literally started and went, wow, kid is skinny and long. Looks like a Leonard Floyd type. That's what I wrote. And then I wrote, he plays five technique? Like, holy shit.


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[Assistant] His play strength is off the charts. And his athletic ability is awesome in every area. Like Floyd moves well, pliable, in a lot of those positions like we talk about where, you know, might be getting double teamed in some awkward position and somehow gets out of it and splits them and makes a tackle.


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[Assistant] He gets the guy off of him. You know, disengages from the blocker and then makes a tackle. He's phenomenal at getting off blocks. That's where he's really special and you see that a lot as the film goes on.


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[Assistant] Cause he's, he's slippery like that. And then it's like I said, I mean, for that size, his strength is unreal. This is a guy that's going to be a three, four outside linebacker.


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[Assistant] You know, 4-3, weak side end, right? With the ability to be the strong side end because his play strength is so damn good. But yea, he's going to be a hybrid edged linebacker pass rushing type in the NFL.


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[Assistant] I haven't seen this one, so. Or hammies. No, he is not going to be quad and hammies. He is going to be length and great feet.


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[Assistant] This is, this is a different guy than a Kayvon Thibodeau altogether, right? Yea, you know me, I love legs and ass, but this is, this is like truly a length and leverage guy that is an incredible athlete to go along with that. You know, and again, like I said, I don't know if he'll ever be that


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[Assistant] Sack guy in football, but you're going to go, damn, he's our awesome outside linebacker. And this is like year eight and he's like in the pro bowl conversation every year.


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[Assistant] You know, let alone, like I said, I mean, he, he, he plays like defensive tackle. I mean, he's placed three technique in some, some snaps. You're going, he's literally inside between the guard and the tackle. Like what? How is that? He can drop into coverage and be comfortable there.


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[Assistant] Right? You know, and then the course's length is going to be an issue when you have to throw around them.


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[Assistant] Uh, there's really a lot to like, and again, I think just with this day and age in the NFL, with versatility and schemes and the way offenses are attacking, you know, these guys are valuable.


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[Assistant] You know, the other guys I said top 15, I think he's top 20, uh, but somewhere between 10 and 20, I think that's where this guy falls.


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[Assistant] No, because it's not enough of the section of sacks. It's not enough of like, he comes around the edge and looks the way we want him to look, right? Right?


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[Assistant] And yeaah, he just didn't get that opportunity, right? And I'm good, you know, cause I said, hey, the shedding the blockers is probably the best that anybody I saw in the whole draft, right? You know, throws his body around. He's got great feel and instinct.


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[Assistant] Sees the ball really well. See, I'm big into that too, and I didn't hit on some of these other guys that I should have more.


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[Assistant] He has good bend, even though, you know, he looks like he's a longer, stiff guy. He's not stiff at all.


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[Assistant] You know, he's got a rip move, a spin move. He really has it all that way. And, uh, I wrote at the end. He's a really awesome football player who will fort with 10 sack seasons, but he's not, that's not his bread and butter.


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[Assistant] Outside linebacker, 4-3 DN. Honestly, I think you could play stand-up linebacker too, and I wrote Devon Lloyd.


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[Assistant] As in the first pick from Jacksonville, Utah last year, right? He could be that. You get to see it. You could see him stand up and go, Oh, he's comfortable. He's fine. So again, here's another guy where I just go, the floor is very high.


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[Assistant] The ceiling's high, but the floor's high too. I don't see much of a bus factor with this guy, and that's why he's the number four guy in the draft.


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[Assistant] Let me just say, that's insane. I like this player.


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[Assistant] But I, I gotta say, like, I gotta question some people to go, when they were telling me he was the number one pick in the draft, I just wanna go, I don't know how that could come.


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[Assistant] And I don't mean to say that I really like Will Anderson. He's a good football player. And sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. No, that's perfect. But he's my number five guy, and he's in tier three. Right? He's a good football player.


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[Assistant] There's not very much elite when you talk about it though. And elite doesn't go one. Not at all.


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[Assistant] There's, I would, I, I mean, I would almost bet big money there's no way he goes before any of the four guys we talked. There's no way. This is not, this is not me again.


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[Assistant] Where, like maybe Kay Von Tibbeto last year, I was like, I don't see it. There's some things I see that I like, but I just, I don't see it from me, right? This is one where I go...


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[Assistant] This is obvious. That nobody's gonna be able to watch his film and go, it's as good as the four guys we just talked about. There's no way. Those other guys have multiple things they do elite. Right? This guy has a lot that he does good. Nothing is elite. Nothing. And then, you know, I know productions off the charts.


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[Assistant] You know, again, all sacks aren't created equal. And I don't know what you saw in your highlights, but like, that's the one thing that, you know,


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[Assistant] Production great, but like, so many of the sacks, I'm gonna go, they're not that special, guys. Like, the quarterback was holding it for five seconds, there was a stunt, he came around, nobody blocked him, and he got a sack. Like, I don't go, oh wow, man.


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[Assistant] Wow, that's, that's a special attribute right there. That's where people, so yea, he got the production, but I wanna go, so what? That's not gonna do anything in the NFL. That doesn't mean anything.


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[Assistant] Or coverage. Or I go, the coverage is great. They got first round secondary guys. Nobody opened. And he gets a sack and we go, look at that production.


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[Assistant] And I'm gonna go, okay. Now lemme just talk about this. So then lemme get the counter, the counter to that then.


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[Assistant] Well, I would, I would, you know, one, I don't just agree with that NFL executive's comment at all. He's an executive. I know. And, you know, again, there's a lot of good here. There's, but like, like, first off is a pass rusher.


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[Assistant] You know, he's got some nice bend, there's no doubt. But, like, let me just read it, verbatim for you, okay?


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[Assistant] So right away you see that. His play strength is very good for his size. And again, I want to make sure we know. This is still a first round linebacker we're talking about. But where I'm just a little angry is people have been telling me he's the number one pick of the draft. And I can just tell you by like five minutes in I was like there's no way this is the number one pick of the draft. Like there's no way. Okay?


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[Assistant] So that's where I get angry. It's not at him. So you see this play strength, you know, uhm, he doesn't get pushed around, right?


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[Assistant] He's very good at getting off blocks. He's great. He's got great awareness and eyes in the backfield. You know, his get off is good, but I'm not blown away. First step, not as good as, not as good as the guys last year. This is not like boser or anything like that I wrote.


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[Assistant] Alright, then I went on and he's just not as physically impressive as I was expecting. And I wrote, am I missing something? Has good strength, quick, quick feet to win with or juking and pass rushing, but it's not wow. You know, it's good strength, but it's not wow. Right? The juking is good, but not wow.


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[Assistant] As a pass rusher, his first step is not top 5 special, has good bend, but it's not wow bend. Speed to power is just okay.


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[Assistant] Good athlete, but I'm not like, wow, this is a really special athlete. Not enough disruption and domination to be a top five pick for me.


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[Assistant] Not a good enough overall specimen where I could take him in the top five. Misses too many tackles, doesn't make enough plays. He's a 3-4 outside linebacker, maybe a 4-3 weak side defense end. Uhm, I am not wowed by him at all.


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[Assistant] And then I wrote, I do question his play stamina as drives go on a little bit. That bothers me. He does look like he gets tired, right? And uh, that was basically the end of my assessment there with a few more lines at the end.


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[Assistant] He's been there for a long time. I know. That's, that's, it's almost a little, we're again, it's into our conversation, and I talked to some people about this this weekend, of just,


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[Assistant] Number one recruit went to the big time college and he did good, so he still has to be the number one guy.


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[Assistant] I do, you know. And again, I don't want to sound too negative on this guy here. Because I know there's a lot of things to like. And he's, you know, a starting outside linebacker.


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[Assistant] But, to say like, you know, again, he's even the CLASS of Tyree Wilson.


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[Assistant] That's, it's not even, that's, again, I'm not trying to be hot takey here. This is, this, I'm telling you, everybody in the NFL is gonna see it this way.


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[Assistant] Everybody. This is not like me going, oh, I'm just being different here. No, I'm gonna be right. Okay? I'm into being right.


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[Assistant] And we'll see here. And then again, you know, I could also get in sacks, you know, college football. It's a different game. It doesn't always translate to make sure you're going to be. It has to, the quality of the sack and how you're getting them is very important. It's not just a number where you just go, well, that number is good. Then he gets it. Like you said, there's a, there's a way to look.


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[Assistant] And how that should feel and look to be a top pick in the draft at that position. And that's where I just don't see it. When you talk to him at the combine. Yeah, he's a great kid.


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[Assistant] Well again, it's a, it's a good game, right? Some of the statistics say good, but like it's not where...


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[Assistant] I went, oh, look at them just dominating this left tackle here. Damn, they got a double team.


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[Assistant] 20 times out of 30 plays with Nolan Smith, and he didn't get a sack or anything. But I go, oh my, woah, he was so close. Oh my, holy crap, he ruined that guy. Lucky it was a quick pass over there that time. Right? They're just not enough of that. That's where it's good, they're just not pure physical domination or pure


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[Assistant] I have that honorable mentions that we're going to talk about in a minute that I go, I have more confidence in them as pass rushers, maybe not the overall player, but to where like two years from now we might go,


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[Assistant] Damn, this other guy, your honorable mention's got 12, 13 sacks a year. And I go, well yeah, he's got a little bit more things of a pass rusher that I like. Will Anderson,


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[Assistant] You know, could play stand up linebacker too. And that's another thing. And I think ultimately, I think that's where he's gonna end up. I don't think he's gonna be on the end of the line of scrimmage, rushing the passer. I really don't. I'm not sure that's gonna happen.


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[Assistant] Uh, I gotta kinda see it to believe it a little bit as far as, you know, the NFL is concerned. Uh, but I don't think he's gonna be an every down pass rusher by any stretch of the imagination. You know who else has to see it to believe it?


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[Assistant] Well, I told you before the pod, what did I say? I mean, I watched some film.


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[Assistant] Man, like is something wrong with me? Am I just tired today? Am I seeing him right in the right way? Am I missing something? You know, what, what is it I'm missing? And like I wrote in my notes, like, you know, and I texted some people in football and I was like,


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[Assistant] I am, I am, because this one's like, this is more apparent to me than Tibido last year. It's not even, it's, it's, it's...


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is farther down the line than that. Yeah, I could see some things from Thibodeau where I went, okay, I can see why people would maybe want to take him in the top 10. He's not for me, like I was saying, but I could see it. I could understand it. This one, like,


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[Assistant] I would go like, what? He's going in the top 10? What the hell are they thinking? Right? That's what I would say.


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[Assistant] One guy after another run 4-5, 4-4, 4-5, 4-3-9, 4-4, 4-5, 4-4, 4-6? This is the number one pick in the draft? Huh? 1-6-1?


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[Assistant] Well, this is where I think it also plays into the hype of this player right here.


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[Assistant] You know, that's where I think part of this is. Again, kind of just glossed over the town of good pastors or whatever and then went into the person, the guy he is for his team, right? You know?


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[Assistant] So, you know, again, I don't know. We'll see where this goes, but I am pretty confident that this is not a top 10 pick. I'm not pretty, I am very.


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[Assistant] Right. Yes. But, uh, yeaah, there's, there's some good guys here. And like I said, there was like, this wasn't a slam dunk at him at number five.


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[Assistant] That's where I said the four were a slam dunk. I was himmin' and haulin' with my other guys and who I should put at number five and it was Will and a few other guys that were involved in this conversation.


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[Assistant] You're gonna see it. These guys are, I don't have any doubt, like these aren't like, oh, I see something or whatever. Like I said, I think these are, these top four are like, I will be shocked.


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[Assistant] If they're not top 20 picks, that's where I'm going on a limb there too. And damn, look at that picture of Tyree Wilson. I mean, look at his body.


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[Assistant] Man, that was easy. That was pretty easy. He just, yeaah, just got a little hand on there just to make sure he got over the width of the car, but he got it. I mean, that's, you're right, it's getting to that point is the hard part.


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[Assistant] Alright, well I will say this, let me say this guy, I love this guy. I haven't heard one thing about this guy, and that's Zach Harris in Ohio State, okay? I-


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[Assistant] He's more along the lines of like Lucas van Ness, right? Kind of like your bigger defense end who's long, he can play inside, but.


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[Assistant] He doesn't get a lot of chances always to just go around the edge and be crazy?


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[Assistant] He's 6'5 and a half, he's 274, he's got 36 and a quarter arms like our man Tyree Wilson, right? So they're unreal that way. And I just came away watching him and just went, man, he does everything.


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[Assistant] You know, and you, like, you get to see him against the Northwestern tackle who had issues with him, but he looked to me like, I went, I walked away watching Zach Harrison going, I don't know, was that Carlos Dunlap or was that Carlos Dunlap? I don't know. I mean, and again, Carlos Dunlap is another one of those guys that's like,


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[Assistant] Uh, and you get to see him against the Northwestern kid or the Georgia kid and go, he not outclassed, he's fine in all these matchups. Those offensive linemen. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] You know, he's a little knock-kneed as far as his legs and the way that goes. He's not really like developed and muscular. I saw that in person and you see that on film.


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[Assistant] You know, and then as a specimen, right, or as a, as a player, he's good, but nothing pops. He's got some good quick feet and some change of direction movements, side to side movements and all that. Right? You know, his get off is good, but it's not like top 15 or top 20 of the draft good.


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[Assistant] You know, again, bend is just okay around the edge. Didn't really see him turn the corner the way I want to see pass rushers turn the corner, right? So, that's where I got into it. Uhm, you know, it's, it's, uh,


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[Assistant] He shoots gaps, that's the best thing he does. Shooting gaps, getting skinny, causing a little disruption that way, uh, but he's not incredibly strong and physical at the point of attack.


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[Assistant] You know, and then yeah, the play strength, the bend, it's just not in the class of some of those guys that we've talked about already. Uhm, but, and then at the end I wrote, I just wrote, because, you know, this is, I wrote, is this the world we're in now? We just, he's ranked high in high school and you go to a good college and you just automatically become one of the top guys in the draft. Is that what, that's what's happened?


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[Assistant] Like, have some traits where I go, they could be special pass rushers. One, they're freaky strong.


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[Assistant] They are special with their first step, and then they have strength that's special too. To where, again, some of these guys, let's just take the Will Anderson conversation, who's a better player than Derek Hall or Byron Young. I know that, he's a better player.


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[Assistant] I would not be shocked if two years from now we went, those guys are better pass rushers in the NFL than Will Anderson. They have some things about their pass rushing skill set that I go, that's gonna translate better than the NFL than Will Anderson. And of course that is the explosive ability, their ability to turn the corner that way.


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[Assistant] You know, those are guys that ran like low four fours. They're freaky athletes. And you see tape plays on tape where you go, whoa, he got shot out of a cannon here or whoa, that was insane play strength there. And that excites me about, you know, their prowess going forward.


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[Assistant] I do, you know, it's, it's like uhm, it's not gonna be the sex, he's got a great look, it's not gonna be like the sexy pass rusher type of guy, right? But I think he's another guy that, you know, early second round, starting defense alignment, like, you know, along the lines more of like,


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[Assistant] Maybe a Boye Mafay from last year, remember him in the second round out of Minnesota, or, uh, the, the, the pass rusher, uh, that was out of Penn State that went to Atlanta.


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[Assistant] No, no, uh, eh, eh, eh, Ebikite, eh, eh, uh, I know I'm so bad with my names. But it was Boye Mafay went to Seattle, and Ebikite...


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[Assistant] Went from Penn State went to Falcons and I'm messing up his name and I'm sorry, I have to practice that.


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[Assistant] Arnold. Arnold Ebikite. No, Arnold, just Arnold. Okay, but either way, that's where I see him. Like, a little tough, you know, stiff, but physical, no real weakness to his game. We have his pro day stuff so we can see it for ourselves here. Alright, let's see it. But not necessarily gonna be like, you know, top, top tier pass rusher in football that way.


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[Assistant] Not as fluid, but good solid body. Yeaah, good solid body, right? Yeaah, it's funny, it's always funny to see some of these guys out of their uniform too.


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[Assistant] You know, here in this, in this look right here, hey, okay, he looks a little looser to me than he does when he plays.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, I like this guy. You know, you know, again, there's no combine numbers, he's 6'3", he's 255", he's 33.5 arms, that doesn't necessarily tell you, oh wow, special edge pass rushing type.


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[Assistant] But outside linebacker, four three Z defense end. I think he does that and he could be a starting NFL outside linebacker for a long time. There's one more name.


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[Assistant] Some, again, some aspects of him where I would throw him again in that Derek Hall Byron Young conversation. I should have thrown his name in here, BJ O'Gillari. Where there's some length and there's some bend where I go, ooh, this guy, like,


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[Assistant] Might have a chance to be something, you know, down the line here, right? You gotta be in the right system and all that, but, uh, that, that statement by at bostonsports.to, you're not, you're not totally crazy there. Now, I don't think his bend is as good as


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[Assistant] Tyree Wilson or, uhm, Nolan Smith. But after that, yeaah, we can get into that, that kind of conversation, right? I just don't think he has enough elite traits to be a first round pick, but I think somewhere in the mid second is where this guy goes. Let's take a look, maybe we have some


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[Assistant] You know? So that was, that was, I wasn't like, oh wow, but... He just went down on our list there. He had down on our list, but he can, he can...


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[Assistant] He can like, he can do it all. He really can. And yea, I think ultimately he is a 3-4 outside linebacker. You know, on third down gets to play the edge and do that type of stuff. But, uh, has a, has a better first step than Miles Murphy.


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[Assistant] Trust me, there's a way this list doesn't- is forever.


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[Assistant] Georgia Tech, more of like that guy of like a Lucas Van Ness who can kind of play inside, outside-ish, right? That guy, right? You know, it's a, it's a big


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[Assistant] Square, strong looking man. I mean, he, he looks defense alignment NFL. That's the way he looks. And I mean, he's, he's starting caliber traits. He just.


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[Assistant] Not overly explosive, a little stiff as a player altogether, right? I think that's the biggest thing. You know, he's not like,


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[Assistant] Sure, edge, five technique, I'm not even so sure, he might not even be more three technique defensive tackle. Good player, but this is somebody I think that's more like towards the end of the second, early third round when all's said and done.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be shocked. They could go a few ways there, you know? I mean...


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[Assistant] Gosh, if Jalen Carter was on the board of Seven? If one of these EDGE guys? Sure!


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[Assistant] I don't know, the corner, you know, that's another positional need there. Patrick Graham came from New England, their D coordinator. I mean, they usually believe in corners there. So, you know, I, I do think that I'm expecting it to be defense at that pick, you know, more than, more than not. Um, but I'm not, I'm not ready to sit there and say that it's, uh, definitely going to be the edge guy. And, and yeah, it'll be,


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[Assistant] I thought we was gonna go seven and five. We end up perfect. I can talk trash now, cause I'm done. I'm a dog for life and I'll always be a dog.


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[Assistant] He did not eliminate himself from the contention of the Chris Simms most coveted cornerback rankings draft board of the year. Way to lock it down there, that was smooth.


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[Assistant] We get tricked though. That's what happens. We get tricked. We get a 60 degree day. And then we're like, I'm done with coats. So I'm over it. And the weather's like, well, we just tricked you.


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[Assistant] So we're getting there. Our role in baseball is starting up here, but today we have more pressing issues. Way more pressing issues. The top five running backs in the Chris Sims top five running back top five draft rankings. By the top five Chris Sims hosts, Ahmed Farid. Uh, so we'll get to that. Interesting class because there is a guy who stands above the rest, we think. Although you always do something a little crazy, so we yet to be determined on that.


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[Assistant] Uh, but before we get to the actual running back rankings, let's take a look back at how we do.


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[Assistant] We as all prognosticators here. And so we'll take a look back at a couple of drafts. This is power to the sheeple. We've been trying to do this because I don't think we always check our work at the end of the day. You just kind of move on to the next draft. You start ranking guys again, but let's see how close we were on some of these and how everyone was. And so I just picked out a couple of drafts here, 2021, which was a big one because I think even at this time,