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[Assistant] So much so that Carranza and his entourage in Sonora had already decided Via was as much of a threat as he was an asset, both in terms of the army he controlled and his growing national and international reputation.


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[Assistant] Because wherever people talked about poncho-via, they nodded their heads yes and said, ah yes, I have heard of this poncho-via, and poncho-via is good.


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[Assistant] And wherever he went, and wherever the division del norte went, people couldn't help but comment on how orderly and rational it all seemed to be.


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[Assistant] And American agents were of course singing his praises back to Washington.


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[Assistant] One of the most important assets VIA had in this image creation project was a 26 year old American journalist named John Reed. I bring Reed up because we are going to meet him again. He's one of the connective tissues between the Mexican Revolution and the Russian Revolution.


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[Assistant] Born in Portland, Oregon and educated at Harvard, Reed emerged from university into the milieu of Greenwich Village radical socialism. And in the world of American letters, he earned a reputation for himself as a respectable short story writer.


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[Assistant] But in 1913, Reed moved decisively to radical journalism, reporting on and participating in the Paterson, New Jersey, silk workers strike.


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[Assistant] And by the summer of 1913, that strike had been defeated, but by then stories had started filtering into the United States about the assassination of Francisco Madero and the re-eruption of the Mexican Revolution.


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[Assistant] Reid was intrigued at the revolutionary struggle south of the border, and he got himself a commission from Metropolitan Magazine to head down to Mexico and report on whatever he found.


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[Assistant] So in December of 1913, Reed crossed the border through federally occupied Ohinaga, dodging a personal death threat from Pasquale Orozco that basically said, stay in the United States or I will kill you.


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[Assistant] Reed then arrived in Chihuahua City just after VIA was installed as governor and soon found himself invited in for frequent interviews during which Reed developed an unmistakable attraction for VIA.


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[Assistant] Now we don't have time to linger too much on Reed, but he would spend the next four months in Mexico bumming around, witnessing battles, sleeping with the soldiers, interviewing Villa and Carranza and other generals.


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[Assistant] These articles were collected later in 1914 into the first edition of a book called Insurgent Mexico that, if you've been enjoying this series, is a great companion piece. I highly recommend you all read it.


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[Assistant] From VIA's perspective, letting Reid have unfettered access and giving him plenty of interviews was both an amusing diversion, but also part of a larger plan to bolster his image with the Americans.


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[Assistant] The other, and more innovative part of the plan, is the famous deal he made with the Mutual Film Company in 1914, allowing them to embed a moving pictures film crew with the Division del Norte.


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[Assistant] This deal stipulated that they would be allowed to film via inaction for newsreels, a new form of media that was just then becoming a fixture of American culture.


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[Assistant] It was also very likely going to be the first time that most Americans had ever seen a real actual battle.


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[Assistant] The first big battle the company got to film, and also the first battle that John Reed saw in person, was the battle of Okinaga, waged just as VIA was resigning the governorship.


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[Assistant] This is where the last pocket of federal resistance in Chihuahua stood, and Fia went up there at the beginning of January to take control of the situation and drive them out.


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[Assistant] The Federale troops, hopelessly isolated and demoralized, broke easily under Villa's relentless charges, and he soon captured the city and sent most of the Federales fleeing across the border, and among this new refugee population was Pascual Orozco.


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[Assistant] Now murderously bitter after watching his ex-subordinate, Via, run him right out of the country.


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[Assistant] But this is not the end of Orozco quite yet, though it is the end of the federal presence in Chihuahua.


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[Assistant] What is real, though, is that they didn't like the common clothes that Villa habitually wore and so provided him a proper general's uniform, which remained the property of the company and which Villa only wore during filming.


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[Assistant] Unfortunately, almost the entirety of this film has been lost, and only extremely decrepit fragments remain. So I know you're all hot to go Google life of General Via and watch it on YouTube, but unfortunately, it's not gonna be there.


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[Assistant] But at the time, it was a big hit and widely screened in the United States. By recognizing the power of this new form of popular media, Villa turned himself into a famous and romantic hero to many Americans.


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[Assistant] This little PR blitz was perfectly timed to make an impression with the Wilson administration that was still trying to get a handle on what its Mexico policy ought to be.


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[Assistant] President Wilson did not like Huerta, and in August had embargoed arms sales to Mexico, essentially recognizing no one in the conflict as a legitimate belligerent.


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[Assistant] But this was not a long-term solution. This was just a way to leverage where to out of the presidency. And it's pretty clear that Wilson was ready to accept the ten tragic days as legitimate if Huerta presided over an election that transferred power to a democratically elected successor.


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[Assistant] If Huerta had done this, Wilson absolutely would have accepted the results, recognized the new government, and disavowed the constitutionalists.


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[Assistant] But when Huerta went rogue in October of 1913 when he dissolved the Congress and got himself elected president in an obviously fraudulent election, Wilson was furious.


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[Assistant] His emissary in Mexico, John Lind, was also furious. And just as Henry Lane Wilson had once developed a pathological hatred of Francisco Madero, Lind now developed a pathological hatred of Huerta.


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[Assistant] Deciding that Carranza represented the only just feature for Mexico, and that the Constitutionalists would not be able to win without American support, Lind pushed Wilson to fully back the Constitutionalist rebellion with money and arms, and maybe even full on American military intervention.


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[Assistant] Wilson was never quite as sold on Carranza as Lind was, for reasons we'll get to at the end of this episode, but he was definitely starting to like the cut of Pancho Villa's jib.


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[Assistant] Especially because via's I'm just a poor boy too dumb to know what from what schtick was like catnip to a paternalistic American progressive like Woodrow Wilson.


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[Assistant] Now, frustratingly, every single book I have on this refuses to tell me if this meant open selling to all sides, because it's always presented as, now the rebels can buy American guns.


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[Assistant] But it doesn't tell me if Huerta could also technically now buy American guns. It's a minor point though, because dropping the embargo was a massive boon to the rebel cause, and that's what matters here.


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[Assistant] The constitutionalist strategy for the spring of 1914 then became a three-pronged march south.


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[Assistant] An army of the northeast, led by a guy named Pablo Gonzalez, would come down the Atlantic coast towards Monterey and then the oil fields of Tampico.


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[Assistant] Obragoan's army in the northwest would make its way down the pacific coast and then turn east towards Guadalajara when they got into Jalisco.


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[Assistant] That meant that both sides recognized Villa's División del Norte plunging down the central railroad line of Mexico as the key to this whole war.


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[Assistant] The army that via lead south numbered, depending on the source, somewhere between 10 and 20 thousand.


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[Assistant] But that was just the men of fighting age, the actually enrolled soldiers and officers of the Division del Norte. But it wasn't just them who were now on the move.


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[Assistant] Also present, and perhaps numbering an equal number, were women, children, and various hangers-on, like the film company or journalists like John Reed.


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[Assistant] The division del norte was really a huge family affair.


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[Assistant] Now, V himself was never keen on it, but men often brought their families along with them on campaign. And other women just volunteered all on their own.


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[Assistant] Via put these women to work as medics and cooks, smugglers and messengers and any other job he could think of.


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[Assistant] But he was a macho Mexican man, and that machismo made him blind to the fact that women could also fight, and Villa always resisted putting them into the field.


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[Assistant] But plenty of women did fight, they just picked up a rifle when it was time to go into battle and dared anyone to stop them.


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[Assistant] These women formed a part of a larger movement inside the Mexican Revolution called the soldaderas, who proliferated throughout the armies of revolutionary Mexico.


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[Assistant] Now it's hard to say exactly how many women fought because their stories were often forgotten and ignored, especially in the official histories of the Mexican Revolution.


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[Assistant] So even though generals like Via thought that women were flowers to be protected rather than strong-willed and tough fighters, there are plenty of accounts of Soldaderas inside his own army that proved him quite wrong.


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[Assistant] Another key addition to VIA's forces that was just now joining him was General Felipe Ángeles.


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[Assistant] Now I know what you're saying. Felipe Ángeles. I know I've heard that name before. And indeed you have.


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[Assistant] Angelus first appeared in episode 9.13 as the last of that little revolving door of generals sent up to contain the situation in Morelos. His predecessors had been all about violence and beatings and literal concentration camps.


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[Assistant] Angelus came up with a good cop touch, dramatically ratcheted downstate offensive tactics, and was probably on his way to bleeding the air out of the Zapatistas when the Ten Tragic Days breathed new life into the revolution.


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[Assistant] It should be said, though, that many of the officers giving Madero this advice happily joined in where to skew. Well, Angelus did not.


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[Assistant] Unlike many of the other senior commanders of the Porphyrian military, Angelus had come from an educated middle-class family, and he fancied himself something of an intellectual.


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[Assistant] When Madera won the revolution, though, Angelus did return, and free from any taint of the previous months of fighting, he was able to meet the new president with fresh eyes, and the two wound up becoming actual friends.


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[Assistant] Analyst himself was in favor of much of Madero's political platform and sharing his desire for some social reform, though of course similarly hesitant about top to bottom social revolution.


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[Assistant] Angelus was considered enough of a loyal materista that after Huerta betrayed Madero and seized power, that Angelus was quickly arrested and thrown in jail himself.


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[Assistant] He was not shot though, and after a couple days was told that it was time for him to go back to Paris. For his health.


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[Assistant] When he arrived in Sonora in late summer 1913, Carranza was delighted and immediately made Felipe Ángeles Minister of War.


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[Assistant] But this irked General Obregón and the other Sonoran leaders who did not entirely trust this ex-Federale, and were certainly not happy that they now had to take orders from him.


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[Assistant] So, facing a little mutiny, Carranza backtracked and demoted Angelisp to Assistant Minister of War, a job that had few responsibilities and no power.


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[Assistant] Via had fewer doubts about Angelus than the Sonorans did, and mostly he needed somebody who knew how to make the artillery work.


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[Assistant] So in March of 1913, just as the Division del Norte was preparing to move south, Angelus came over.


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[Assistant] Beginning an enormously fruitful and mutually loyal partnership with Pancho Villa.


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[Assistant] Angelus provided not just immediate artillery expertise, that via badly needed, but he was also brought into the inner circle, crafting strategies, suggesting tactics, helping organize the growing army.


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[Assistant] Thinking of himself as a philosopher soldier, Angelus also spent time crafting a coherent ideological umbrella for the division del Norte to fight under, and to give Via a platform to stand up on.


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[Assistant] And for sure by this point, Angelus could see a divide opening up between Via and Carranza, and decided to stand shoulder to shoulder with Via.


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[Assistant] Thea, meanwhile, saw an analyst, military acumen, sure, but also the potential for a national political leader that he could support.


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[Assistant] The alliance with Carranza had always been uneasy and necessitated by circumstances. One of them being that there wasn't really anybody else plausible that Via could put into the presidency upon victory.


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[Assistant] Okay, so with Angeles now by via side, the Division Del Norte, in total numbering as many as 50,000 people, equipped from the United States and controlling plenty of trains, were ready to roll south.


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[Assistant] Their first target would be the all-important city of Torreón. Now Torreón, as we talked about last week, had been captured by Villa once before, but after he pulled out, federal forces reoccupied the city. As many as 10,000 federal troops now stood in Villa's way.


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[Assistant] And the men and officers in Torreón actually had pretty high morale. They figured they would be able to defeat Fia's rabble easily. His previous victories they chalked up to either luck or bad commanders on the federal side.


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[Assistant] But as at the First Battle of Torreón, Villa employed an aggressive strategy of night attacks on the federal positions, capturing first the very well-fortified city of Gomez Palacio that left a thousand men dead and three thousand wounded,


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[Assistant] Then he pressed on to Tarteon to commence further withering charges and demoralizing night attacks. And this was coupled with more precise artillery bombardments thanks to the presence of Angelus.


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[Assistant] Facing a far better armed and organized army than they thought, federal soldiers and officers went from thinking this is going to be a cakewalk to wondering how they were going to get out of Torreón alive.


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[Assistant] Well, Via gave them away. Rather than encircling the city, he left the road east to Saltillo open. So, you know, if you want to run for it, be my guest.


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[Assistant] So on April the 2nd, the Federal Army took him up on this obvious offer and ran for it, evacuating the city and allowing VIA to capture it without having to fight street by street.


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[Assistant] Via's victory at Torreón was a massive blow to President Huerta's fortunes, as the cause in the north was now all but lost and Via was preparing to drive even deeper into central Mexico.


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[Assistant] It had now been just over a year since the ten tragic days. And initially, things had looked pretty good for Huerta.


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[Assistant] The army was with him, the old Porfiriian oligarchy was with him, most of the European diplomatic corps decided to recognize his regime, and he successfully outmaneuvered his internal rivals like Felix Dias and installed loyal military officers in every state governorship.


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[Assistant] Even the northern rebellion at first seemed like it was going to be easy. Carranza and a few banditos running around. It was going to be more like a fox hunt than a war.


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[Assistant] But by the fall of 1913, things were looking not good at all.


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[Assistant] His relationship with the United States had deteriorated and led to an arms embargo, forcing him to rely on guns imported either from Europe or from Japan.


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[Assistant] In response, Werta decided to go double or nothing on the dictatorship, dissolving the congress and getting himself elected president in a fraudulent election.


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[Assistant] But he also started raising other taxes to make up for the shortfalls in his budget. And he suspended payments on the Mexican national debt, which ran him afoul of his European supporters.


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[Assistant] So by the time VIA was being installed as governor of Chihuahua in December of 1913, Huerta's supporters were starting to think maybe they've backed the wrong horse here.


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[Assistant] Huerta was supposed to mean order and profits, I mean progress. And instead, it was all chaos. And on a personal level, Huerta's alcoholism raged just as bad as ever.


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[Assistant] So John Lind was able to report gleefully back to Woodrow Wilson, that Huerta's political base in Mexico City was cracking up.


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[Assistant] People were whispering that defeating the constitutionalist challenge might mean dumping Huerta for some kind of compromised interim president.


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[Assistant] This then brings us to the climax of today's episode, which was not THE Deathblow to Huerta, but it was the proverbial kick in the balls that made possible the final Deathblow to Huerta.


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[Assistant] After a great deal of hemming and hawing, President Woodrow Wilson decided in April of 1914 to invade Mexico.


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[Assistant] The pretext for this invasion was a little misunderstanding called the Tampico Affair.


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[Assistant] What happened is that the United States had, since the ten tragic days, quite a few naval ships in both the Atlantic and Pacific just kind of hanging out in international waters off the coast of Mexico, you know, just in case.


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[Assistant] The US Navy and Mexican Army garrisoning the various Mexican ports were mostly on decent terms.


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[Assistant] And on April the 9th, the captain of a gunboat, the USS Dolphin, which was hovering outside of Tempeco, sent nine guys ashore to pick up some gasoline.


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[Assistant] But at that moment, Tempico was being besieged by part of the constitutionalist army of the northeast, and things were pretty tense inside the city. And the depot these guys were headed towards was right near one of the main skirmishing lines at a very critical bridge.


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[Assistant] So these guys go into the depot in a small boat with their US flag flying.


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[Assistant] So the nine soldiers are rounded up, including the two still on the US flagged boats, that's an important detail, and they were marched down to the Federal Army headquarters to get some answers.


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[Assistant] Now really, this was a big misunderstanding, and the commander of the federal forces cleared it up immediately. He apologized to the sailors, and he sent them on their way, inside of a half hour.


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[Assistant] What takes this from little misunderstanding to the Tampico affair is that the American admiral in charge of the US fleet decided that the apology and release were not good enough. Especially because Mexican soldiers had arrested US servicemen while standing on a US flagged ship which he took as tantamount to an invasion of US soil.


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[Assistant] He demanded the Mexican army apologize by hoisting the American flag and firing a 21-gun salute.


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[Assistant] This demand wound its way up the chain of command to Huerta, who categorically refused to raise the American flag on Mexican soil.


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[Assistant] Negotiations then went on for a few more days, with both the Americans and Huerta digging in their heels.


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[Assistant] But since there were logistical difficulties with occupying Tampico, Wilson instead asked Congress for authorization to seize and occupy the all-important port of Veracruz.


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[Assistant] The other reason for targeting Veracruz was that a German ship loaded with weapons for Huerta was fast approaching.


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[Assistant] So, Wilson decided to go for it. And on April the 21st, he ordered the invasion and occupation of Vera Cruz.


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[Assistant] After getting his orders at about 8 a.m. on April the 21st, the commander of the U.S. fleet notified the commander of the thousand-man federal garrison in Veracruz that the Americans were coming.


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[Assistant] This gave the Federal Army commander plenty of time to clear out of town.


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[Assistant] Unless of course he wanted to get blasted into smithereens by big navy guns.


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[Assistant] So the commander pulled his men out. At about 11am, 500 marines and 300 sailors landed in Veracruz and fanned out, occupying all the key buildings along the waterfront that you want to occupy when you're capturing a port. They took the customs house and the docks, the railway station, the telegraph office.


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[Assistant] Then they set up a headquarters in a central hotel, and so far faced no resistance at all.


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[Assistant] But the citizens of Veracruz were not thrilled about this invasion, nor were the cadets at the Naval Academy who took it upon themselves to defend Mexico's honor.


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[Assistant] Some light skirmishing around sunset led to American fears that there was actually a much larger force in the city than they thought.


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[Assistant] So they waited nervously through the night. Then at 4.30am the next morning, additional waves of Americans landed, bringing their total up to about 3500 men.


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[Assistant] And the complete occupation of Veracruz was ordered, not just the key points near the docks.


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[Assistant] But as these guys were marching in parade order down the main streets of Veracruz, they were hit by armed civilians and sniper fire from the windows.


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[Assistant] The Americans were not at all prepared for this and fell back.


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[Assistant] So then the Navy brought their heavy guns to bear, and they started shelling hot spots, especially around the Naval Academy.


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[Assistant] But Veracruz was now under American occupation.


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[Assistant] The occupation of Veracruz came as a huge shock to all of Mexico.


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[Assistant] And it played a critical, though not necessarily decisive all on its own, part in both the looming fall of Huerta and the future course of the Mexican Revolution.


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[Assistant] Where to though? Initially thought that this temporary setback of being cut off from his most important port would be more than offset by the patriotic outrage it was sure to trigger.


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[Assistant] Everyone in Mexico was deeply offended by the invasion. And Huerta thought that this was his chance to actually bolster his regime.


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[Assistant] His officers immediately used it to gin up further recruitment for the army, and they started sending feelers out to rebel leaders suggesting that they may have to put aside their differences to expel the Americans, a suggestion that many rebel leaders were willing to entertain.


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[Assistant] Now, Zapata, for his part, rejected any attempt at a patriotic alliance, but he did say that the American presence in Veracruz made his blood boil, so there was deep anger about this.


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[Assistant] Carranza and the Sonorans were deeply nationalistic, especially about things like Yankee exploitation. And Carranza issued a strong letter to Wilson condemning the occupation and demanding the Americans withdraw. They were proud and patriotic Mexicans. They did not want Americans sitting in their country.


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[Assistant] This shocked and peeved Wilson because he expected Carranza to be grateful for the help.


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[Assistant] But the only rebel leader who was appreciative was Pancho Villa.


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[Assistant] So as I said, the occupation of Veracruz had major repercussions both for the immediate conflict between Huerta and the Constitutionalists, but also for the growing breach between factions inside the rebel camp.


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[Assistant] And next week we will cover both. As Huerta's regime continues to collapse, the rebels continue to advance on their way to becoming the latest victims of the entropy of victory.


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[Assistant] Now before we go this week, I must tell you that we are running a special Saturnalia promotion for the Storm Before the Storm on Amazon.


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[Assistant] And I'll end by saying that next week we will be back for a new episode, but then I will be taking three weeks off for Saturnalia and adjacent family activities, and we'll be back again after the new year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel like I'm there with you.


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[Assistant] Or are you one of those people where we need to talk down to you so that you have something to prove sort of like a karate kid situation? How do you want it?


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[Assistant] Uh, at home, but then, uh, yeaah, so our car died, uh, Jess, Jess had a, has a car, I have a car, and we haven't driven it in so long, I tried moving it for the first time today, and I just was like, uh, it's dead, but it's a, it's a hybrid, right? So,


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[Assistant] I didn't, there, nothing works in the car cause it's all like mostly electric. So we called the dealership, we're like, hey, how do we, uh,


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[Assistant] What should we do? And then he's like, don't touch it. We'll send, we'll call AAA, they'll do it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, wasn't it, I only saw like the Kotaku article or whatever, but like, didn't he have to like...


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[Assistant] Basically li- make the game think he was like glitched into the ground or something like that? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know, it could also, it might be a different audience. It might not be the same people watching, so there are people probably watching streams who...


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[Assistant] More? Who knows? Yeaah. I don't know how the metrics work out. I'm always kind of curious how those things work.


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[Assistant] Okay, the only one way we do that gameplay, right? We gotta go get sick and then we play Plague Tale. Oh, get the plague.


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[Assistant] That's how you spell fandom? It's fandom, but it happened in the DC fan dome, where at the end of it...


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[Assistant] They're the ones who did Batman Arkham Origins, which people weren't hot on. I thought it was fine. I enjoyed the game, but it's because it's pretty cool.


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[Assistant] Those games are all fantastic. Uhm, and rocksteady.


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[Assistant] That's all they've made, as far as I know. Uh, the first game of theirs I played was, uh, Arkham Asylum, and then Arkham City, Arkham Knight, uh, and they haven't made it, you know, we didn't...


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[Assistant] We haven't seen anything from them for five plus years, so yeaah, I'm...


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[Assistant] It, it took them five years to finally get to a point where they can say this game's coming out in two years. So.


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[Assistant] They were, they were trying to like, where do you go after Arkham Knight? You go Justice League, but then it's no fun to play a Superman. I thought that could potentially work where you swap characters.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I guess maybe people just want to play as one character, so I guess they just kept going to the drawing board over and over and finally they settled on Suicide Squad because man, it's so hot right now. Face tats and such.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and they're all like, they're all like, what the, what the fuck, Batman? He's like, what? And they're like, he's like, I made one for myself too. I'm crazy. Fuck you.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think Superman was a kryptonite bullet. They...


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[Assistant] They set, they, they set him up where he has to like, he's, he's gonna rescue someone and they shoot Superman but it's a kryptonite bullet. But uhm, yeaah, in this one it looks like, in the game it looks like Brainiac.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it's not the dead, it's not the dead shot from the Arkham city or night. I forget which one he was in. It's a different, it's a different person that's like playing them. So there's like.


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[Assistant] It was a, it was a lot of people upset they didn't get a Batman. And I feel ya, believe me.


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[Assistant] I know you're a Dark Souls fan, John, so when I saw this, I knew you were going to be into this, but you're going to be like, why'd they rip off Dragon Ball? And I'm like, oh, wait till, wait till John finds out.


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[Assistant] Odyssey to the West, sorry, that was, wait, what is it? Yeah, that was uh, Ninja Theory made a game which is like a weird dystopian future game starring Andy Serkis.


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[Assistant] And you play as, I believe Monkey is the character's name. That was one of my favorite games. It's fun.


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[Assistant] I think, I think it's a game worth playing definitely to get to the end. There was some great third person.


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[Assistant] So wait, just walk me through this real quick, because you guys learned how to use ZBrush? What was that like?


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[Assistant] I'm excited to watch you digitally sculpt.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it looks like a toaster. It's amazing. They're like, what if the GameCube had a DVD player? Does it play games? Not kinda. You watch movies on it, but there's only a few of them.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, it didn't, I don't, it's up there with like the, uhm,


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[Assistant] The switch, handheld, can only do, uh, like sub 720, yeaah. So, you're talking about holding something handheld that's 4K, that's gonna just kill your... It makes sense if it's handheld, it's 1080p, and then video out is 4K.


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[Assistant] That would make sense. Yeah, I mean Breath of the Wild too makes the most sense, right? I mean, they, they know Zelda is a system seller. Maybe that's why Microsoft delayed Halo. They want to put it on the new Switch.


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[Assistant] Maybe, maybe this will be like their, their iPad moment where they'll be like introducing the Nintendo stylus and it's an extra $200 for a pencil.


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[Assistant] I would venture a guess, well, I would venture a guess most people, uh, if you're into gaming, are okay losing a little bit of resolution on the handheld side if it means a better, more consistent framerate. Or game, like, imagine playing, uh, the song you just mentioned, the game Hollow Knight,


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[Assistant] Uhm, imagine playing that at like,


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[Assistant] 90 plus frames a second on a handheld. That would look very nice.


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[Assistant] Ooh, pigments. Why not? What about, uh, Charlie's Angels? That's an evil four. Yes, and that.


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[Assistant] I feel like they have to do, I feel like they have to do the Metroid Prime remake, re-release. That is a great point.


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[Assistant] 2019, I would have been all over this story, but you gotta try harder, you gotta make this year even weirder.


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[Assistant] They send priests on special ops for Russians.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I need to be excused. I am livid from this periodical.


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[Assistant] I've heard a similar story as before except it was crazier where it was a woman who didn't speak a word of Mandarin got shocked by lightning and she could speak it fluently, which makes.


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[Assistant] You had me, you had me until the end there when you just made it up and you took a giant dump.


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[Assistant] Or it just reminds them of their childhood. There could be a nostalgia aspect to this stuff.


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[Assistant] We got rid of blimps, so. Those are similar times.


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[Assistant] Yeah, even after you read it. He didn't even pay for it. That's, that's. Squeeze me.


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[Assistant] I get it, I've seen Tall Tale, you gotta, you gotta pump it up a little bit, you know, Paul Bunyan maybe wasn't...


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[Assistant] And who will be hosting these guests today? I wonder. Is it Adam Kovac? Yes, the man in the mirror. Some say I'm your host and we're talking about you.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, but in Australia or New Zealand or wherever he grew up. Right? Okay, well he was ten.


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[Assistant] Well, today we're, I got a bunch of news we can talk about that just, you know, we use as a sound board, bounce board, some sort of board. I do want to tell you guys about my cat problem. If that's okay. I do have a, uh.


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[Assistant] This is a personal story near and dear to me, so uh, this Bengal cat has been coming around my house.


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[Assistant] Uh, for about a year now, Bengal cats are like these, I guess, purebreds or I guess inbred, however you want to say it, but cats that have like leopard spots on them and they, I think they go for like $4,000 or something like that. They're these very expensive cats. This cat's been coming around for, for a while, no collar.


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[Assistant] Very cuddly, he's not feral in any way shape or form, he's just, he's, he wants to be pet. I give him some snacks every once in a while, but he just comes and goes about every few months.


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[Assistant] Uh, but for the last couple weeks, he's been coming almost like every day and he's been going to our backyard and he's just, he's been hanging out. And so Jess started getting like really concerned. Like I, she's like, I'm really worried about this cat, but we got, I got kind of into like a couple's argument. I'm like, well, it's not our cat.


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[Assistant] Like I can't, we can't take it in. We already have cats. They're territorial. You don't want to get into that whole thing. So uhm, I want to ask you guys if I went too far. If I step beyond my boundaries. So I bought a GPS tracker for the cat.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm gonna put it on the cat and so we can find out who the owner is so we can let him know that the cat doesn't have a collar. We also went around the neighborhood and put up signs with pictures of the cat.


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[Assistant] That's kinda how I feel, because our, our experience...


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[Assistant] With cats, or they've been indoors, uh, as long as we've had them, you know, 10 plus years. And, you know, Je- I think Jess is like, doesn't, she's, she has a hard time getting, sort of like,


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[Assistant] Most likely, but then also, who would buy a $4,000 cat and just let it go outside? I wonder. I don't know. I'm in a con- I'm in a quandary of a conundrum here. I need your guys' help.


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[Assistant] I thought about it, but then you guys told me that story about your friends who did the same thing.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm reading some of the chat here and people are saying, it's simple, take it to the vet. I don't want to pay for the vet. Vets are expensive and there's nothing, I don't see anything wrong with that.


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[Assistant] Wobbles, but if the cat had come to our house and it was bleeding or it was sick or like something was wrong with it.


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[Assistant] And it was like, it's like basically, help me, help me. I would drive it to the vet immediately. The cat seems fine. He's very playful. He, uh, I played with him a little while ago. This is another reason why I don't want to take him to the vet because, uh, you guys ever try to put a cat in a cat carrier?


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's not, it's not fun, number one. It's not like, you know, you don't just throw a snack in there, like they fight you on it, uh, you have to buy like a nice carrier to like trap him. I've been scratched by this cat before. I can't clip its claws, it's not mine. Uh, so like I'm, I'm in no rush to pick this cat up or try to touch him anywhere he doesn't want to be touched. So that, that's sort of, that's not really on the, on the table right now.


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[Assistant] No, it's like half the size of a Tamagotchi. It's not...


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[Assistant] It's not a, it's way too big and then also it doesn't work and it's being returned to Amazon right now as we speak because


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[Assistant] I made the suggestion to Jess and said, well, why don't we just print out flyers and put them around the neighborhood? And then that kind of calmed her. She was like, oh no, that's a good idea. And then.


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[Assistant] I was like, hey, the GPS tracker doesn't work. She goes, you know what? I'm feeling pretty good about the flyers. So maybe you don't need to worry about the chips. I was like, cool, cool. Hopefully I get my money back. Got my money back. So that's good. That was a utter waste of cash.


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[Assistant] Piece of, piece of garbage. I'll be rating it, uh, one star. Actually, I didn't do ratings on Amazon. I'm one of those people.


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[Assistant] So if you had it and you put it in Elisa's purse and she didn't really get her just, but it just, it just, it's just a circle in your living room.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but also, yeah, you also have to pay four bucks a month for the GPS tracking software. I don't...


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[Assistant] Microgravity. Anyway, that's, that's my cat story. I just wanted to get that. Am I, am I a bad person for not, like, stealing someone else's pet and taking it into my house?


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[Assistant] Well, I also, we live, you know, we, we live in a, as far as most people are concerned, a first world country and like, I guess just seeing wild animals is so alien, but if you ever


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[Assistant] Travel? I don't want to as a kid, I went to Tijuana. I'm like, oh, there's a puppy. Mom's like, do not pet the puppy. Do not pet the puppy because it's covered in.


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[Assistant] Three layers of filth. Uhm. I will say.


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[Assistant] It's not so much a burden, I just, I don't know, we've named him Charlie Day. That's all we've done.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, I mean, and he keeps coming back, so I feel somewhat, you know, inclined. Every time he comes out, I'll run outside and I'll pet him for a little bit, but then he just sort of, I think we're just a rest stop. I tried giving him water yesterday, he looked at it and just went about his day. Like, I think we're just a stop for snacks. He just wants us for our food.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I, I just, yeah, I feel like I'm, I'm just one of many boyfriends, you know, and I just, I don't know about any of the other relationships and that's...


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[Assistant] Do I wanna know? That sort of thing too. Maybe just enjoy the mystery. You know, enjoy, enjoy the, the, the fun while I can. And, you know, don't question it. That's a thought.


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[Assistant] Uh, also, yeaah, L.A.'s going through our, our national heatwave. Everything's on battery backup, hopefully everything's okay.


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[Assistant] But man, that's also been fun. That's been fun to deal with. I think also that the cat's hot. It's been stupid hot here, not as hot I know as other places that have been reaching whatever, 113 degrees, you know, Death Valley.


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[Assistant] So, uh, I don't know where to end on this, this topic of the cat.


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[Assistant] Anything else going on in the world that, you know, most people may have heard of going on?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and the third biggest and arguably most important thing, Fortnite is no longer on the Apple app store or the Google play store.


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[Assistant] We'll get to that, the whole thing of the corporations owning the platform.


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[Assistant] This has been going on for a little while. If you're just catching up, this controversy began when Epic announced that on Thursday it would offer a permanent 20% discount on Fortnite's in-game currency if players purchased directly from Epic. Epic included an in-game store for the mobile version of Fortnite, undercutting both Apple and Google.


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[Assistant] Uh, so Epic player, Epic space said players could not get the discount if they paid via Apple or Google. Um, they said quote, currently when using Apple and Google payment options, Apple and Google collect a 30% fee and the up to 20% price drops do not apply. So they're, they're, they said we're, we're lowering our prices.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because Apple and Google won't do it for you, so just give us your money directly. But that goes against the terms of service in which they signed already for Google and Apple. Uhm, I will preface this whole story by reading about this as I am on nobody's side.


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[Assistant] Outside of these companies have anything to really gain.


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[Assistant] Maybe one, but I don't think Epic's really doing it for the reasons that I wish they were, so.


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[Assistant] Uh, the company went on to say, uh, that, uh, basically F you because hours later, fortnight had vanished from apple's app store and epic responded with a lawsuit immediately. And they put out that video. I don't know if you guys saw it's a, it's a throwback 1984, which was a throwback.


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[Assistant] Anyway, so, uh, yeah, there's a quote here by basically saying that, uh, it says, uh, Apple's removal of Fortnite is yet another example of Apple flexing. It's enormous.


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[Assistant] Uh, which was actually filed, uh, in the U.S. District Court of Northern District of California.


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[Assistant] Apple owns the platform, they own the hardware, they own the platform that you're on, so typically when you get into that world you have to play by the rules. Epic feels that they are big enough that they don't need to abide by those rules anymore, uhm, and they're making the argument that


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[Assistant] Uh, I believe so, yes, but the payment structure changes. So if you want to play it on a mobile platform, you have to use Apple and Google's purchasing store.


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[Assistant] Uh, platform and Google's platform, they, they had this issue. I want to say about three years ago when they were trying to get Fortnite on mobile and they said, we don't want to pay the Google tax. And so they actually were having people side load.


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[Assistant] The game which is a way of, you can install basically any app on your Android phone if you want to. It's not recommended because you're opening yourself up to malware and other.


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[Assistant] No no, well they also, they knew what they were doing. They weren't, they weren't.


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[Assistant] Uhm, a schism essentially and it would cause an uproar and because they had a lawsuit ready to go. They knew this was going to happen.


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[Assistant] I don't play Fortnite enough on enough platforms to know that if I buy something on my PC, if it will then transfer over.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, I, I'm like, sure, if, if that option exist, that might actually exist in some way. I'm, that, that to me is...


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that is, that is the argument, uh, Epic has been making for a while by saying that, you know, platforms like Windows, um, allow for this exact sort of thing, but it's,


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[Assistant] Their own app, their competing apps, uh, priority on the app store. So, hey, do you want Spotify or Google music or I guess YouTube music now? Uhm, well, they're going to float Apple music above everyone else and


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[Assistant] Basic apple said no, that's not true. Uh, they do not act in an anti-competitive manner. They actually hired an independent research firm to publish a report showing that 30%


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[Assistant] The only sort of similar comparison I can make that I think we could possibly see here. So Twitch is a perfect example. If you are a, it's not a perfect example, it is an example. If you are a Twitch streamer, you're a


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[Assistant] You're, uh, uh, up, up and coming whoever, uh, you know, somebody Twitch will take 50% regardless of your, your subs.


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[Assistant] If you get to this upper echelon, this pre-Doctor Disrespect level, Shroud, all these guys, they will renegotiate and take less to incentivize you to stay because you're making so much money for them. That is what Epic's looking for. They're basically saying, I'm playing sort of devil's advocate, not really.


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[Assistant] Right. And Epic is taking the gamble of saying we would rather lose all that revenue than give up 30% of it, which is.


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[Assistant] Once again, my, my opinion on this whole thing is these are all billionaires with their own ecosystems that I have no, whatever my opinion on it doesn't sway it one way or the other. It's, it's like Apple created the app store. This is the, this is the deal.


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[Assistant] Everyone signed when they made it. Doesn't mean I have to like it, but that if it's like, if you want to be on a Apple product, you have to play by the rules. That is the dystopian cybernetic future we live in.


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[Assistant] To be, to make, you know, make it somewhat fun, but it's not. Uh, I just, I do wonder if there are other developers who are looking at this the same way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, same thing with YouTube and their, you know, people who like, check it out, eight hours of bird watching video. And it's like, I don't know if that made that money back. Um, or, you know, looping video of Bill Paxton saying funny thing for eight hours. Like that's YouTube probably losing money on it, but it's made up somewhere else. But that's what happens when you create a platform that is.


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[Assistant] Anyway, so this all got really interesting on Monday, this was on August 17th, uh, Apple informed Epic that it will terminate all their developer accounts and cut Epic from the iOS and Mac development tools.


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[Assistant] That even came out, uh, may have ended with two. It's been a while since I've, I still have it, thankfully. It's, uh, I bought that game when I first got an iPad.


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[Assistant] No, yeaah, almost everything has been ported, but then, uh, yeaah, I mean, it's basically saying you need to remove your tools from iOS and Mac, but those games could basically theoretically still be updated on a PC and ported over using, uh, it's Cocoa, or maybe they don't use Cocoa anymore, what it's called. It's been a while since I followed, uh, Mac programming, but


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[Assistant] Regardless, that, that was I think, uh, Apple's sort of trump card in that, that statement of saying like, okay, well,


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[Assistant] Yeah. So remember, remember when Thor was playing Fortnite in Avengers Endgame?


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[Assistant] It can theoretically still exist, it just won't be updated. It would just be, he's just playing an old version five years later because, uh, Cliffy B was snapped up.


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[Assistant] How smaller developers feel about this, if they think the 70-30 split is fair, or they think maybe it should be changed, obviously more money is better, but uhm, I'm curious, I'm always kind of curious, what the average Joe has to go through, the sort of stuff, not the giant billionaires.


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[Assistant] Anything. You remember when Google sent you that email and they're like, by the way, we've been tracking you this whole time, but now we're telling you.


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[Assistant] Here's the map, here's where you went, and you're like, oh god, yeaah, they look at everything. Uh, yeaah, no one's off the grid, that's just, that's just how it is. I am. No you're not.


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[Assistant] Uh, anyway, uh, hey, let's talk about some other gaming news. Uh, remember that game Hades, made by Supergiant Games?


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[Assistant] No, uh, no pyre yet, the other game that they made. That's actually the one I was most looking forward to coming to the Switch. But uh, Hades will have cross-play, or not cross-play, you'll be able to transfer your save, cloud save, so that's pretty cool.


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[Assistant] I do, I do love this game. I hope more people get to check it out. I know it was an Epic Games exclusive, going back to that whole thing. Uhm, and finally came to Steam recently and now it's getting, it's getting this console love, which is good. I think it's, I love Supergiant Games. I think they've done nothing but great titles ever since they started with Bastion.


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[Assistant] Uh, I have been, I've been rooting for those guys. So I just, I always like to give them a little shout out. Um, they're, they're one of my favorite developers. I love them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm looking at the trailer now. Little girl, mushrooms, stuck in the woods. This is a coming of age story. That's for me. Okay, there's a giant bird in the sky.


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[Assistant] Speaking of real fans, Arcane, uh, one of my other favorite developers who's, uh, just lost actually their head developer or their head, uh, like the CEO, the guy who like founded the company he left recently, uh, sadly, but their, uh, new title Deathloop has been delayed until 2021.


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[Assistant] They were, they were pretty upfront about it. They said, uh, working under the COVID-19 pandemic has pushed the game's launch back until about April or June to 2021. I, I was...


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[Assistant] Another, another thing I was sort of curious about is like how game development has been, uh, ramping down in, uh, work from home situations. Which, there's my answer. It's, uh, it delays the game about a year, so. It's gotta be tough.


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[Assistant] But, uh, yeaah, I always wonder, are they in there? Is it empty? Are they all working from home? I don't know, because also they haven't announced their new project. It's gotta work too.


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[Assistant] I like to imagine that meeting where Mr. Sony and uh, Cory Barlog are in a meeting. They're like, God of War is a runaway success. It has made us millions of dollars. What do you want to do? Anything goes, swan! I want to finish that salon.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, another, uh, Sony, actually speaking of Sony games, uh, Gosujima is getting a free online co-op mode later this year. How does that, how does that entice you?


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[Assistant] It actually does, uh, it depends on the amount of people you're playing with. So from, uh, Darren Bridges, the senior game designer at Psycho Munch, he explained in a post on the official PlayStation blog how players will choose from different classes and play with groups of two to four in missions built exclusively for co-op.


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[Assistant] So depending on how many players you have, you'll get access to different missions. So if it's just you and a friend, then you can try out a series of co-op story missions and do a lot of combat. Um, and then if it's three friends, you can do wave base. And then if it's four players, it's, um.


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[Assistant] It's sort of, sort of my apprehension of getting into that game of knowing that it is a open world game and that you're inevitably, that's like, I know, um, uh, Horizon Zero Dawn just came out on PC and I'm just like, the same reason I kind of stopped playing that game was,


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[Assistant] It's the same, it, yeaah, it's that, that, that anxiety you feel when you see how big of an open world is, and it's like, go here, go here, and how much of it is just me walking next to somebody?


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[Assistant] Are there any games you guys are playing together? I was trying to think of something that like Jess and I can play that's not just like a jackbox game. No.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know, I mean, that's sort of like watching a movie, I guess. Uh, she liked it when I was playing Ori. She would watch that, but then she got sad when the, uh, any time the baby owl showed up and he, he didn't look so hot, so. Yeah. So I haven't finished it. It's actually, that is on my list.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that could be fine. What was that game we played with Josh and Nadia?


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[Assistant] Okay, I just, I discovered recently that baseball is the Netflix of sports. You don't really need to pay attention to it. You can just have it in the background and be on your phone. And if anything exciting happens, there's usually a replay.


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[Assistant] You'll find out. Yeah, so, uh, we've just been mostly watching, like, Dodger games because the, uh, the season is so short right now. And I'm not a sports guy.


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[Assistant] Okay, yeah, that's actually a good point. Uh, we do enjoy those cheesy, uh, cheesy scary movies sometimes. We were talking about it earlier. I really want to watch, uh, the faculty again. I don't know.


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[Assistant] I'm definitely, this will be my, I'll talk about it on the podcast next week, uhm, but we ordered a 3D printer.


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[Assistant] Um, and that's gonna be our, that's our new project right now cause of, uh, Jess's, you know, her side hustle. Um, but like it was, it was the first time I think where we've, we've talked about something where my,


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[Assistant] My want of tech and cool stuff matched her artsy nature. Where I was like, I'm like, oh, I could put a 3D printer, you could, you got wifi, you could do all these cool things. And she's like, I just want to make earrings.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm gonna make a black panther mask is basically the answer there, so. Oh cool, interesting. You can get them for like 200 bucks now, which is, or less, they're crazy. Black panther masks?


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[Assistant] So that, that, man, I went down, we could talk about it later, I went down a rabbit hole this weekend looking into like the differences between, uh, what is it, filament and resin and how, I watched a guy do a video where he had a three thousand dollar


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[Assistant] Machine. And he's like, there, I made this black panther mask. It was about $100 worth of resin. I'm like, dear.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, but yeah, we're, we're more kind of like looking to like just little arts and crafts. Like we have those, uhm, uh, twists and crits statues that we had from years ago. That was clearly we, it was some company that was like, they would charge you something crazy. We were looking at them. Hero Forge. Hero Forge, yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] I mean, but I realize now, oh, those were just 3D printers.


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[Assistant] Painted my figure, so I might do that during this break. That's how I'm trying to better myself. I'm learning arts and crafts, so when I come out of this, I'll be weird. That's gonna be good.


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[Assistant] I wanna be Artitek. Uh, alright, we have a little bit of, uh, stuff to talk about at the end here. A little Billy Joel teaches history. But before we get to that, a quick ad from our sponsor. DC fandom. Take two.


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[Assistant] And we're back. All right, we're closing out the show. I promised this last time. It was a huge hit. Just kidding. No one cared, but I'm going to keep doing it just in case there's four people who want this. There's one of my favorite songs in the world is We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel.


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[Assistant] It's an amazing song from the mid to late 80s. It's fantastic. You should listen to it. And I want to give you a little history lesson on every part of the song that he sings about.


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[Assistant] Silly of me to think I'm going to have a job long enough to name every part when I host the show every four weeks.


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[Assistant] Exactly. I'm going to point to the podcast today, but we haven't got, uh, uh, JFK gets blown away yet, but one of the second part, uh, the second, uh, pronoun on, uh, Billy Joel's list, which is Doris day. That's right. Doris day.


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[Assistant] So I did a little bit of research. She's actually very little controversy in her life. She was an American actress, singer, and animal welfare activist. She began her career as a big band singer back in 1939, achieving commercial success in 1945.


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[Assistant] With two number one recordings, the songs were Sentimental Journey and My Dreams are Getting Better All the Time.


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[Assistant] After that, she embarked on a solo career and recorded more than 600 songs from 1947 to 1967.


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[Assistant] She had a few husbands, but uhm, once again the controversy wasn't really there. There was, there was a lot of sadness in her life. She got a...


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[Assistant] Yeah, she actually outlived her son, which was really kind of sad too, but they owned a hotel together for a little while and it was one of the first ever pet friendly hotels. That's how much she loved animals.


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[Assistant] But, uh, yeaah, she was, uh, she was actually kind of a really cool individual who I didn't really know a lot about before doing research on this. And I will continue doing more research on her because, uh, I'm learning something new every day in history. Uh, and she actually died not too long ago. This was May 13th, 2019 at the age of 97. Uh, she unfortunately contracted pneumonia.


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[Assistant] I've always said that when I die, I want to be as little of a burden as possible. Like burn me into ash and pour that ash into a child.


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[Assistant] I just, death, death to me is one of those things that is, we, we make, we try to make such a, a beautiful thing when it's like, no, you're, I mean, this is, this is just a shell, but the thing that makes me, me is in here, and if that's not working, just throw it in the alley.


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[Assistant] Yeah, or it's like, uh, I will donate my grandmother to the U.S. military because I love my country. Like, we're gonna bomb it. We're gonna put it on that.


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[Assistant] So the headline is, man horrified that army blew up mom's body after it was donated for research. Uh, yeaah. An Arizona man was appalled that his mother's body was blown up by the military after he thought he donated it for medical research. So.


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[Assistant] Thank you everyone for watching DudeSoup today. If you want more of this type of content, check us out here every week where we just gab, we talk about whatever. It's kind of more of a laid back feel. And if you like it, tell a friend or many.


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[Assistant] Make a friend. Why not? Make a new friend. Just call a random phone number and start a conversation. That's your homework for this week. We'll see you next time.


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[Assistant] How are they saving all this money? Well, guess what? They're online only. They don't have any brick and mortars, any retail stores. So they're not paying rent. And they're passing that savings on to you. Okay? You've heard this before. I've been talking up Mint Mobile for a while now. I have been using it. And guess what?


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[Assistant] Founder, founder and creator of Achievement Hunter.


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[Assistant] I do, I have a, I have one from approximately eight years ago, so right, right after Fiona was born. Right, right. And it really does not...


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[Assistant] If I bought it when it was like on super sale, it literally costs like less than a fitbit did. Cause I really just wanted something to log my steps and they were like, do you want this old ass watch? And I was like, that'll do it.


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[Assistant] It's uhm, it's like Fiora was saying, it's just, it's really, it's a really, really fun show. It's been wild seeing it. Cause like, I haven't, I, we've just been seeing kind of bits and pieces as Torian has sent us like,


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[Assistant] Right. I can't even comprehend how Torian's doing this, um, and the whole team that he's got, which is not a huge team. Um, it's not a very big team, so it's pretty wild what they've been able to achieve.


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[Assistant] Do you know this, Hannah? Maybe, I think maybe, but I probably don't. The family just born.


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[Assistant] I think I remember you saying who it was.


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[Assistant] That's not true. All of that is not true. No, it is very, it is a very weird casting choice, um, to have me be phased because, uh.


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[Assistant] Oh my gosh. Well, it honestly was just, uhm, the anxiety of doing it was so, Fiona and I have talked a lot about how, uhm, Elena, who is like our sound engineer, she's incredible, like,


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[Assistant] I, I could not understand, like I, you know, I think it's, what's really fun and really cool about what they did this season is that they let, uhm,


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[Assistant] They led a bunch of people who are pretty much brand new to it.


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[Assistant] So much better than it would have been, uhm, without that, but uhm, yeaah. It's been really fun. My favorite thing to Fiona's point was when you were saying that, Fiona, it reminds me of, uhm, Noelle, uh, who voices Raymond and is also a writer and director on the show and also the producer.


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[Assistant] This is like everything. Triple threat. Triple, quadruple, quintuple threat, uhm.


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[Assistant] But he talks about how he, you know, he, after seeing the show coming together, he was like, man, I should have written


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[Assistant] That's right. I think that was the first real roller coaster I ever, I'm very afraid of roller coasters. And I think I got, I think Jack


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[Assistant] Uh, it was someone who was giving me a hard time, but it was really fun. And that was like, I'd never, uh, I don't think I'd been to bush gardens before. Um, but that was a, that was a gosh, is that?


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[Assistant] Takes me back. That was a long time ago.


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[Assistant] Yes. Uh, well, so, I sa- you're like, explain. Um, so, like, when I lived in New Jersey, um, cuz like, also, I feel-


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[Assistant] We would also go to Hershey Park in Pennsylvania.


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[Assistant] I liked going to Hershey Park because also like the first ride I remember, I think it's like the entry ride at the park, is like the world of chocolate or something, and it's like a factory, it's like a fake mini Hershey factory, and it smells just like chocolate, which, well, we're not gonna get into that. I guess if you get nauseated on a coaster.


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[Assistant] But yeah, I mean, when I was little, obviously I wasn't really going on roller coasters. So in New Jersey, it was like, we would go to like Hershey park and go on like all the little kid chocolate rides. But then when I was in.


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[Assistant] I lived in Florida when I was in middle school and high school and so all of our


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[Assistant] Field trips were just to theme parks, like they would find any excuse. Like I was in a marine biology class and they'd be like, we're going to SeaWorld.


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[Assistant] Okay, that takes 10 minutes. They're like, yeah, we don't really care what else you do. So get out of here. Um, yeah. So like most of the time it was, I was going to them, uh, weirdly for school.


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[Assistant] Um, and then I just would avoid the roller coasters. I was always the sad kid who was, who made the, the like chaperone be like, oh, this nerd.


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[Assistant] What would your, what would your, um, like pseudonym be? What would your name be? What would you go by?


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[Assistant] Do- do Vtubers use their own voices? Yeah, I'm gonna have to practice that. They do, right?


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[Assistant] Sometimes they have act, like VAs, like wasn't that, I was reading a thing about it. Sometimes they like have people do the voices.


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[Assistant] I'm out. James is out. I'm in. Yes. Yeaah. I'm in. Yeaah. I don't need to tell them that I do that.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't want, I didn't want people to know it was me as FaZe.


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[Assistant] And also you're, you've informed so much about your character, like that character is-


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[Assistant] It'd be, it'd be hard to extricate you from one. So I feel like it, for that it's really tough. But, cause you basically made, like you guys made that character together. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I, I think most of my anxiety came from the fact that I, I, like, like,


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[Assistant] All of us saying this, like, I have no experience in, uhm,


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[Assistant] Acting or voice acting? Not all of you. I'm saying I don't have that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so when, yeah, I mean, you guys have actually done stuff.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the things they had me read, but it was just like a couple lines. It wasn't like I had a lot of context for who the characters were.


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[Assistant] In the booth where I actually had to read context and the scenes they had me read are some of like the wildest scenes.


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[Assistant] And I was like, oh, this is, this is like a badass villain. Like, this is not...


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[Assistant] This is not who I am. Like, how am I gonna carry this off, especially when I have no acting chops? Uhm, and I had very much the fear of like, I don't want the, you know, audience or the community and people who care about RBB to watch this and be like, well, why did they get this dummy who doesn't know what she's doing?


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[Assistant] Um, and so I, I really wanted to like, I think a lot of what I did when I was reading the scripts was I asked a lot of questions about, um,


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[Assistant] Like her motivation and why she would say and do certain things, like not for like the like, you know, I'm going to murder you kind of stuff. I think we get that.


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[Assistant] Um, but I think as, as the season goes on, you see a little bit more into


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[Assistant] But also I just, uh, I, I just, um, I let Noelle and Elena and Josh coach me to the best of their ability. And I, I think Fiona said this before on other, um, things we've been together, like,


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[Assistant] I definitely improved over, over time. Like the more I did it, and the more I understood that character, and the more I got comfortable being in there, uh, the more confident I was to, to


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[Assistant] Play around and try more things, and I, I think I said it a couple times, like,


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[Assistant] Um, where I, I really pushed myself and tried new things. And so, um.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's definitely outside of my comfort zone is definitely something I'm still very nervous about. I do not read the comments because I don't want to see people saying.


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[Assistant] They would, I loved whenever Noelle would try to, cause there's a lot of scenes where, you know, she's trying to murder people. Um, and I don't, I would do, they'd be like, you know, get angry and like think about wanting to stab someone. And I was like, I don't, uh,


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[Assistant] How many foster kittens do I have? How many? What weapons do I have at my disposal? Uhm, so he was like, he would try to, it was very funny seeing how Noelle would try to tap. The ways he was like, how can I activate her rage were like, still really sweet. It was like, think about protecting your foster kittens. And I was like, okay, this will work.


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[Assistant] Oh my gosh, yeaah. No, it's been very fun and I'm excited for people to see where the season goes because I feel like the back half of the season


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it's, uh, there's some crazy stuff and I, uh, I'm very excited for people to see, um,


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[Assistant] I, yeah, I knew, I actually already knew people who worked at Rooster Teeth. So my knowledge of Rooster Teeth was pretty peripheral, like I had listened to some of the podcasts, uhm, and I'd seen like some episodes of Immersion, cause like, Jessica, I knew Jessica and Jessica had been working on some stuff.


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[Assistant] Um, cause we worked at the same company before we worked here. So I, I knew of it in the context of like the Austin film and TV.


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[Assistant] But I would say the funny thing was my introduction as an employee was


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[Assistant] The two most intense immersion, immersive things I could have done, which was arty life. I had to run arty life for like a year and I went on the let's play live tour within four months of working at Rooster Teeth. Like how quick was that from when I started working there? We went on the tour in like March or April, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think I'd only been at the company for like, maybe five months.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and they were like, hey, you and Larry are gonna go on a...


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[Assistant] Like a week long trip with these people who have no idea who you are. And you're gonna record them for, uh, for four or five days and.


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[Assistant] And Larry would be backstage, frantically editing, cause we were shooting it live. Like we were shooting stuff that day.


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[Assistant] And then he would edit it and it would go up the next day. And I just like, remember begging, I had just met Elise and I was like, I love you. You're the kindest, most wonderful person I've ever met in my life. Please record you eating chicken nuggets. I need this footage.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, yeah, just go, go adopt animals from shelters. That's my plug. That's I've got foster kittens right now. I'm trying to find homes for and, uh, support, you know, good organizations, especially this time of year. I know it's been tough for everybody, but.


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[Assistant] Gotta do what we can to help. Even your time, your time is more valuable in some ways, so.


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[Assistant] And watch the heck out of RVB to quote Noel. I always use Noel's quote because he's so funny. He always says, tell a friend to tell a friend. So I always say that I'm like, tell a friend to tell a friend. It's fun. Fiona's incredible. Um, watch it just for her. She's the best.


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[Assistant] You wanna see, you wanna see some sick knife stuff? Check her out. Uhm, and what else, what else can we talk about for you guys? I wanna talk about- For us? Well, I'll be-


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[Assistant] Thanks to AT&T for sponsoring this video. This year we've teamed up with AT&T to bring you RTX at home. To learn more about AT&T's fast, reliable, and secure 5G network, click the link in the description.


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[Assistant] Very nice, very nice. John, why can't people find you, I guess?


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[Assistant] Just hanging out outside area 51 trying to find true love. And also rtx this week. Oh yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] Microsoft spends so much money. I have ants and we're going to talk about Billy Joel teaching some history all today on this episode of Dude Soup.


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[Assistant] I was called a nino a lot growing up being around.


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[Assistant] Uh, oh hey, hey everyone. I'm, I'm Adam, your host today. I'm joined by James and Elise and we're just, we're just talking. We're talking about stuff. This is a podcast. This is Dude Soup.


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[Assistant] Uh, I assume this is your first time here. Let me explain what a podcast is for you. Uh, this is where we talk about whatever we want. We were so confined every day during the week on the sort of content that we make. You can only talk about the game that's in front of us. Once a week we get together and we can just say whatever is on our minds. Keep it real fast.


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[Assistant] Like the film Footloose, which I have not seen. I've never seen it either. There's a lot of those movies where...


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[Assistant] You know the entire story right forward and backwards but you've never actually seen it.


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[Assistant] All the different movies. I still, I don't think I'm gonna pay the 30 bucks. Don't. Right? Yeaah. I almost. Cause you told me not to.


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[Assistant] That was, uh, something I read about, or just, I, there's this insufferable podcast I listen to, cause I do the spot, the Spotify, like, here's your, uh, we made a mix for you, and they'll just throw certain podcasts at you, and there's this one that's about the stock market, and I know nothing about stocks, I know James, you follow that stuff, probably,


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[Assistant] More than I do. Like, you're more invested in investments and stuff like that. Like, you seem more well cultured. Yes.


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[Assistant] What would you call it in a sense, like, the burro?


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[Assistant] Maybe. Oh, so like, I've seen the video of, they're talking about how humans evolved in a way where we could sweat because, uh, like it's the idea is that we could basically kind of run forever because we're able to


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're unique in that way. And it was this video where it was, it was like, uh, like an African tribesman just chasing a cheetah. It's like the cheetah can run very fast, but he gets tired because he can't sweat. And this guy with a stick is just chasing him like, like, wow, humans, I guess we are, are kind of cool. But then.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we don't, we don't, maybe we, we don't take advantage of that. It's hot.


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[Assistant] I haven't done a note. I've never actually written an Amazon review. Same. I've lied and said I was going to or like I've done the, uh, like the thumbtack thing where like, Hey, just leave me a positive review. I'm like, whatever gets you out of my house. And then I don't say anything, but one day they'll come back to bite me, I guess.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, Star Wars was $4 billion. Marvel was roughly $4 billion. Back in the day, Fox bought MySpace for $500 million.


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[Assistant] Oh god, yes, Elise. That, that's the, we say Zenimax, but I think most people will know Zenimax by...


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[Assistant] Uh, the biggest, I think, little company that has it within it, Bethesda, uh, who holds the, the keys, the sacred keys to the Elder Scrolls franchise, Fallout, and the upcoming RPG Starfield, which we still know basically nothing about.


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[Assistant] But on top of that, they got Wolfenstein, Evil Within, Tokyo Ghostwire,


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[Assistant] Doom, that's gotta be a pretty nice little crown jewel. That also includes Quake, Rage, Prey, Deathloop, Dishonored, Elder Scrolls Online, and then there's even other games like, well there's another studio in there, Alpha Dog Studios, which is a smaller, more mobile focused company.


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[Assistant] Uh, they have a lot. They got a lot in this purchase, which is insanity.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, some people were actually a little worried because, uh, Tokyo Ghostwire and Deathloop were supposed to be PS5 exclusives, also coming to PC. The word exclusive has lost all meaning.


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[Assistant] Yeah, my god. It feels like Microsoft does this. We hear this news, right? They buy a studio and they buy something and then we kind of quickly forget about it. I totally forgot.


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[Assistant] You guys are both making interesting arguments on both sides. It's tough because on one hand, Microsoft's


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[Assistant] It's sort of been the joke, right? The last, the last generation was they didn't have any exclusives and everyone pointed to Sony's advantage of having exclusive after exclusive and this seems like Microsoft playing the long game of we're going to just gobble up as much as we can so that


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[Assistant] We can get it out there, you know, we can, we can, everyone has to buy our console except


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[Assistant] Their whole strategy seems like to be switching to games pass and then games like Ori are coming out on the Switch and Viva Piñata before that came on DS you know way back when but is this Microsoft trying to get games pass on PlayStation or on Switch? Like they've talked about that before.


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[Assistant] Does it look more like an epic game store?


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[Assistant] It's like an exclusive for a while over here and then after a year when they've made their money they go, okay Sony, you can have it now and then they make another round of funding off of a game that came out a year ago.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, and he also, uh, had his own game made for him so that he could get his own, uh, a thousand gamer score points. I don't know if you saw that. No, I didn't see that. In his little, his blog, he wrote this. It was, it was very heartwarming, but he got a lifetime achievement award and he, uh,


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[Assistant] Made some joke to someone at Microsoft, like, what's that in Gamerscore Points? Cause they're all nerds.


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[Assistant] And then they basically made a game just for him that he downloaded and when he opened it, it gave him a thousand game score points. It was a lifetime achievement like thing, but he's the only one who has it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I had a, I had a question for you guys. Do you think...


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[Assistant] Microsoft would enter into a trade agreement with Sony where they say, alright, you want elder scrolls? We want God of War. And they have these like trades where they're like, we want certain, some of your games go multi-platform, if ours go multi-platform. Or do you think that's just, that's too, too much fun?


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[Assistant] Microsoft's behavior has been, with Phil Spencer taking over, definitely has felt like, like, hey, we're all friends, you know what? We, it seems, they're taking kind of this humble approach.


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[Assistant] But then at the same time they're like, and we also have unlimited money and we're going to buy Elder Scrolls because we can. And so, yeah, I don't know, I get a Epic Games store vibe from a lot of this, which is just, well, if you can't beat them with original IP, just buy it all.


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[Assistant] Did you guys get your, uh, Microsoft switches yet? I did, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Uh, have you tried it? Yeaah, I haven't had a chance to mess with it much, but, so like, this is from Razer, uh, for audio listeners, we're using this little thing. It's basically two sides of a switch, but, uh, it looks like, um, you know, for like an Xbox controller. Still can't really get this little back thing.


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[Assistant] Wouldn't it be great if every clothing store you shopped at had your size, what styles you liked, and the price that you wanted? Well, good news, there is a company focused on making that


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[Assistant] The, the video game life balance, which is, uh,


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[Assistant] Well, I fully agree with you, James, where the Switch is like, it is like a nice sign of the future, right? This thing that you can take anywhere, you can move around, and I'm finding I have less and less time.


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[Assistant] In my life, to play games, ever. One day, I'll get through this control DLC, uhm, not having any time doing it, but...


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, like this setup, this thing is weird to me. Like it's, you know, my phone on with a controller, but I can play all my Xbox games on it. It's weird. And it's cool. And it's, we're going to laugh at this in 20 years. Uhm, or maybe 5. Or it'll be the standard.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I had this theory, man, back before the Xbox One was being announced, I assumed


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[Assistant] Yeah, you can play all the Xbox games exclusive now on your, if you have an Android phone, because Apple's a, you know, bag of dicks. But, you can now just pay five bucks a month, I think that's what it is right, for Game Pass.


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[Assistant] I think so. Yeah, and you can just play them on your phone with like that set up. Like, you could have an Xbox for $5 a month.


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[Assistant] We called it a steambox, and then they called it a steam machine, which is also the name of the Daft Punk song.


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[Assistant] I was looking it up, so the plans right now for Game Spass is actually $15 a month, which is I think what Netflix costs roughly now.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, they did their premium console, their sub console, or you just pay for the service, which is...


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[Assistant] This seems like a better, way better version of on live. To me, obviously. Um, cause it also works. We've, we've tried the services before and stuff and done the, um, the beta, what's it called? The, just the game's past beta or whatever, the streaming thing. The X cloud, sorry. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah.


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[Assistant] But Killer Nsync, wasn't it? Like, it had some insane netcode or something like that, I remember.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, what do you guys think? You think Microsoft's going to take that crown back, which they kind of got on accident with the 360 days when they


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[Assistant] Still there. I still feel like this is, I said this last time, but I feel like this might be the last one.


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[Assistant] There's no, there's no latency in the xcloud. No, I just, yeaah, I'm wondering if the future is, uh, like James thinks, where it's gonna be a stick, you know.


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[Assistant] I mean, this sort of happened with the Wii U, right? Like, my boy wants the Wii U, and here's the Wii, looks good to me, and they get a Wii instead of the Wii U.


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[Assistant] The guide where it's a picture of an Xbox, you know, an original Xbox, and then there's a box of an Xbox, so it goes one Xbox, one Xbox box.


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[Assistant] The, the holiday with grandparents, which I guess kind of excites me.


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[Assistant] I look forward to the, uhm, a lot of the posts and like confused children, how far we've come from the N64 kid on Christmas being excited because it was simple and you knew what it was and you knew what it did, you knew what a Nintendo was and you knew what a PlayStation was and that was it.


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[Assistant] And Christmas is over. Actually, somewhat related, there's another story that the PlayStation 5 digital edition stock was reported to be far lower than the standard PS5.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's actually what a lot of people are speculating is that people are buying the dist version because there was no other choice.


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[Assistant] Yeah, when you invite people over and go, now you may be wondering what these things are on my wall.


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[Assistant] I, I, I read, ringed a friend's Xbox. He was just letting me borrow it basically indefinitely. And I think I posted a picture, this is how long ago it was. It was like on MySpace where I'm like, oh, me too. And he saw it and goes, is that my Xbox? And I went, uh.