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[Assistant] One of the guys I wrote that he reminds me of is Anquan Bolden, right? Remember Anquan Bolden? Anquan Bolden was incredible at sticking his foot in the ground and making people miss and running routes. I like all of this from, uh, from our man Keon Coleman. I think it's all there, let alone he's got one of the


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[Assistant] You know, best physical elements as far as just the size. And I would say Ricky Pearsaw, you say had the catch of the year. This guy also had one down the middle that I would say was like up there with anybody I've ever seen in college football. Versus Syracuse. It was Syracuse. Is that what it was? It was incredible. It really was. But, you know, let me just, before I, his, his size and strength are incredible.


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[Assistant] He's got great change of direction movements. He can make people miss in the open field, has great feet, and definitely has twitchiness to him, right? He can shake and make you think he's going one way and come out the other way. Incredible ball skills. Incredible hands.


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[Assistant] Great ability to adjust the ball, can go up and get it, knows how to use the body and box out. 50-50 balls with this guy is almost going to be impossible to stop him.


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[Assistant] For his size, it is a great route runner. Sudden, right? Good burst in and out of transition, you know? And of course, no issues with contact. I mean, he's, he's arguably to mean that maybe the strongest receiver in the whole draft, right?


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[Assistant] I really think he could be a big time slot receiver, right? It sounds weird to say that about a guy that's 6'3, 215, right? But I really look at him and go, yea, you know, like top end speed not great, but


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[Assistant] The, uh, burst, acceleration, twitch are all really good. And he's got the special ball skills on top of it. I really look at him and go, I feel like he's an Anquan Bolden or a Michael Thomas from the New Orleans Saints. It's that guy.


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[Assistant] You know, and I was a guy, again, Michael Thomas, I wasn't huge on him, and I, even when he was leading the NFL and receiving it, I was going, you know.


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[Assistant] Hey, he's really good, but he's not a top three receiver in football for me.


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[Assistant] He's in the slot, he's catching six and seven yard slants and things like that all game, and there's great value to that, but he wasn't ever beating anybody deep or catching a ball and running for 70 yards or doing all that. Super effective in that offense though. Super effective. That's where Keon Coleman, I think, if he can find the right offense and right spot, he will be able to work the middle of the field to death.


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[Assistant] This is a little bit more of your specimen weapon type, who needs a little work, right, at being a receiver, but you see enough to go, wait, he can become a pretty good route runner, but it's the physical, you know, tools and ability that just kind of jump off. I mean, first off,


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[Assistant] He's the most dense, thick, wide receiver in the dress. I mean, his neck and his shoulders. Body dense, body dense.


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[Assistant] Mentally? It's hilarious that you hear, uh, talk. No. I mean, he is as country as it gets, right? Like kind of that Randy Moss twang, and he's like, I'm just gonna run good routes. Yeah, he's got that. Every team needs one of those. No doubt about it, but like,


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[Assistant] Dense as far as physical body like an AJ Brown or a Debo Samuel type of guy, right? Powerful.


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[Assistant] I mean, like an H backer, a tight end in some ways, right? Runs well, power runner, powerful strides, pulls away from defenders with the ball in his hand, has another gear with the ball in his hand, where, you know, he'll catch a six or seven yard route, break an arm tackle and turn up the sidelines and all of a sudden you go,


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[Assistant] Oh sh- oh shit, nobody's gonna catch him, he's gonna outrun everybody, right? He can really open it up.


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[Assistant] Always good Yak, right? You know, his running, he's big and clunky, right? Uh, but man, he can run and not afraid of contact at all. And all of, you know, all of like the route running after I saw him a little bit was a little better than I expected for a big clunky guy, right? Uhm, always good Yak.


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[Assistant] Anything physical, the kid's good. Don't worry. Back shoulders, 50-50 balls. He overpowers, right? He muscles DB every time. You know, he shows better quicks with the ball in his hands than he does as a route runner.


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[Assistant] That to me is where I try to piece things together. Like T. Higgins was like that.


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[Assistant] Okay, I feel like I can live with that. You know, the releases and nuance of route running is needed. He's still raw there, right? But he's just a truly an x-wide receiver, physical specimen. Put him at the, put him outside, get man to man, he runs by him.


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[Assistant] He's gonna be better in the NFL in college when he has real NFL quarterbacks thrown to him. Cause the go-routs, the back shoulders and all that are always...


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[Assistant] That's just a little more on target, the timing, the, you know, the rhythm of all that, so much more practice, the jump balls, the pop slants over the middle, like a Debo Samuel, right? That's all up his alley. He's gonna be like, what? I'll catch a pop slant, I don't care if it's Fred Warner over there. He's gonna be like, I'm as big as Fred Warner, I'll take him on. Right? He's that kind of guy.


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[Assistant] He needs to learn the receiver position a little bit, needs to learn how to run routes a little bit better, but he's a specimen with big time upside, he's a weapon, and I think he's somewhere in the, you know, mid to late


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[Assistant] I mean, I didn't want to make this too long, because I could have had other honorable mentions.


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[Assistant] We just talked about the Xavier Leggett, right? It's a similar build. It's just a lesser version of that.


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[Assistant] I'm with you in the body, the physicality, right? I think there's a little though of like, yes, some of the big plays he had, I'm like, eh, I don't know if that would have been a big play against Michigan or Ohio State, right? And I worry about the separation, but he's interesting and he's a weapon type. He is a weapon type. I mean, you see him line up a tailback. He does a little bit of everything that way, right? So I hear he's intriguing. Okay, so that's one.


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[Assistant] Smaller guys where I go, like we talked about at the start, where I go, I mean, he could be awesome next year. He could have 70 catches and close to a thousand yards right away. Yea. Right. I feel like him, Jacob Cowling from Arizona, Anthony Gould from Oregon State, uh, Jermaine Burton from Bama.


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[Assistant] They all fit the guy you're talking about, where I go, there's the role, they're going to be good in the NFL, there's a spot for these guys, right?


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[Assistant] You know, there's not the elite trait to make him a top five, right? And again, maybe, you know, as we always know, not everybody in the top five ends up being a top five when they get out there and play NFL football. You know, some of it's, yeah, projection and, ooh, this guy has an elite trait that we think is special. Oh, but damn, we got him here in camp.


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[Assistant] Damn, there's seven other questions, or seven other things that are just not even close to elite. Oh no, we messed up. Uh, but yeaah, these kind of guys, I hear you, Amin, and that's where I get into this and go...


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[Assistant] Shit, I don't know how many receivers are gonna be drafted. You know, like I said, I probably watched 20, maybe a little more than that, and I feel like every one of them is gonna be drafted.


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[Assistant] He'll be out there, and let's see what we get, and then if we don't get anything...


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[Assistant] We'll sign Josh Reynolds back, right? And he might even be a little less money than what he's asking for right now because now he realizes there's no seats at any table and he's just gotta take what he gets. And you're gonna get him back and go damn, Josh Reynolds is really good, right? But yeah, I think that's...


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[Assistant] That's where, hey, this, between this popularity of this sport,


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[Assistant] Is just, they're growing on trees. Everywhere. And it doesn't matter where I go. I mean, it doesn't matter if I go to my son's seven on seven and stuff. Like most of the kids, they want to be receivers. That's what they want to be. They want to look cool with their gloves and have the, all the swag and be the fast Tyree kill Jamar Chase type of guy. That's what everybody's trying to be. That was my son, nine.


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[Assistant] Freaky athlete, it's cool, you get to look cool, and I don't have to like...


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[Assistant] Uh, but hey, I hope everybody enjoyed it. You know we're gonna continue with this process. We got cornerbacks coming up next. I think we're probably gonna do it on Monday. I don't know if I'm gonna get done with the whole group by Wednesday. I'm a little behind.


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[Assistant] Heard the usual in my draft process. That's what I do. Uh, but again, please send in the questions. Anything else you want to dive into as far as these receivers, back to the quarterbacks, whatever. We're gonna figure out our formula for the Wednesday pod, but you know where to find a subscribe rate review. You know where I am on social media, whether it be X or Instagram.


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[Assistant] And if you're just feeling extra hateful and you wanna crap all over me, don't forget where you can find Ahmed. Crap on him too. Oh, that's true. And if you're gonna crap on me, crap on Ahmed. It's just fair, it's fair. I can be crapped on. Okay, good, good. He can be crapped on, he told you. Alright everybody, be good, Ahmed.


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[Assistant] As always, thanks so much for driving the ship. Thanks for being a film watcher.


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[Assistant] Alright everybody, be good, be safe out there. We'll talk to you on Wednesday. Clap it up!


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[Assistant] Me and Ahmed Fareed are gonna be here for it all. You know, we got free agency. We're gonna break it all down. The draft, the rankings of positions. Of course, we're gonna unpack it all. Hit subscribe, get to my free agency reactions, 2024 draft rankings and more. Thanks again for watching. Peace out, homies. See you soon.


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[Assistant] Uh, I got to spend Christmas Eve Eve with you. Yes. Doing football night in America. Good time. You guys carried me through the finish line on that day. Oh, shut up. Uhm, and, uh, yeaah, I was, uh, not that I wasn't looking forward to waking up today. Yeaah. But I was not looking forward to waking up today.


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[Assistant] It was a great weekend. I was thinking too, and I was like, man, this is a bonanza for the NFL, having all these games on Christmas Eve and then Christmas Day. I did miss some, and I was like, man, I bet other people are missing. I wonder what the ratings will be like when they come out. I don't know that they'll be as huge. I mean, maybe they will. I would think so.


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[Assistant] We got it all. There's been a lot of games happening over the last five days or so. Uh, so we go through it. That is our promise to you guys, the homies, even on the day after Christmas. We've got Pete back there. We've got Andreas punching the buttons today. Luca, Georgia, Morgan, Mackenzie, all working the day after Christmas. So we'll go through the Christmas Stunners.


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[Assistant] And I called him out before the pod started too. We did, we did all that. So we'll get to all the games that happened. That's basically the summation of that. Let's start with the Christmas Stunners. There were two of them here. Uhm, I almost think the second one that we're going to talk about is a little bit more of a stunner, but let's start with the number one seed in the AFC versus the number one seed in the NFC because


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[Assistant] So it's pretty good. Damn okay, Mike McDonald, the D coordinator there who did used to play or coach with Jim Harbaugh, Michigan. Uh, he goes future New England head coach, perhaps, uh, crying odds right there. So, um, that's, I think that's almost a side story, the MVP, cause who knows what'll happen. That'll shake out. It's a strange year for it.


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[Assistant] That's a discussion that will continue over the next couple of weeks, but let's get to that. We almost. Oh, wait. Are you ready to move from this game or no? Oh no. Okay. Good. Geez. No. Wow. You were going to go move on? No, I wasn't going to move.


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[Assistant] Screw over me today. No, so let's get into the meat and potatoes of it. What's the lead? What was the lead other than the MVP? It wasn't the, it shouldn't have been the MVP, but I thought that was an interesting discussion. The lead is, the Ravens just beat a team that looked like they were unstoppable.


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[Assistant] Was it more self-inflicted by the 49ers? Did they screw this up? Did Brock Purdy screw this up? Or?


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[Assistant] Do the Ravens present some real challenges for them? And are, should the Ravens be, cause I think before this game you would have said clearly, the 49ers are the best team in football. Not even a doubt. Not to be disrespectful to the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Which I will say to that, I felt bad for the ref too. Yes, oh I did too. It's like, if you do scramble back and around, there is a chance you're gonna run into a referee at some point.


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[Assistant] Maybe 80% of what, what a good Brock Purdy would give you. Yeah, he did some good things. Good to have a back, good backup quarterback, or at least a competent one. Yeah, he's a really good backup quarterback. Uhm, alright, so, so moving- Like you said, like,


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[Assistant] Alright, last one, Orion Chuzlewicz says, hope you guys had a good Christmas. Thanks Orion, you too. Chris brought up last week that getting blown out in December doesn't bode well for a team Super Bowl chances. Talking about the Cowboys. Does the same apply to the 49ers after their 14 point loss last night?


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[Assistant] Uhm, bless you, jeez too, my gosh. Uhm, yeaah, it's just like the team has looked so dominant for so long and now you went up against a good Ravens team who's 12 and 3. I think you can give them a pass for one.


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[Assistant] It's one of those games where if they play it again next week, it wouldn't be like, because the Ravens won this game, I would automatically think that the Ravens would win the next week.


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[Assistant] Uh, Raiders, if they play it again next week, I have no idea what's going to happen because I have no idea who the chiefs are right now. The Raiders win this game 20 to 14, despite even throwing for a yard, Aiden O'Connell 64 yards in the first quarter and then doesn't throw for a passing yard.


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[Assistant] After that and they win. And it wasn't like it was even that close. The chiefs with the late touchdown to make it a little closer, but 20 to 14 Raiders get the win over the chiefs. This is one of the more mind boggling. They scoring back to back defensive plays after the fumble. And then the pick six, like


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[Assistant] Red alert for the Chiefs? Like, what's going on? Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a little


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think we have a photo of Jack Jones here, Andreas, with the, uh, the pick six for the second straight game. Have you seen this? He was, uh, in the Christmas spirit. There he is, the Grinch!


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[Assistant] Malcolm Coons, three sacks in the game, had five sacks in the last two games. Now four sacks in his previous 35 career games. All the numbers that I can read off here for Kansas City, just make them.


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[Assistant] Look as bad as they were in this game, but it's just still amazing. Aiden O'Connell, first quarter, he was 9 of 11 for 62 yards. All the first drive. The last three quarters, he was 0 for 10. No yards and they beat the Kansas City Chief.


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[Assistant] Maybe they could do something like where Pacheco gets it and then like fakes it to Mahomes or hands it to Mahomes or something like that. Or no, they already did.


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[Assistant] Those teams from yester year, even last year with the Kansas City Chiefs. Time to move on to the 11 fishes category that you had renamed the.


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[Assistant] I mean gosh, guys killing a dangerous species over here.


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[Assistant] I think probably they both walk away with some positives. I think so. In this one. Yep. Uh, the Dolphins had the final positive. Tyreek Hill, 99 yards in this one. Did look like Jalen Waddell.


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[Assistant] Uh, left the game as a high ankle sprain, could miss the rest of the regular season. So it's gonna be more on, uh, more on Tyreek Hill there. Uh, Tua had 31 yards on the game winning drive.


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[Assistant] What'd you, what'd you, what'd you make of this one? What did both teams kind of show you in this?


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[Assistant] Pete notes in our rundown here that Tua has four game winning drives in the last two seasons. 2012, a couple weeks, five and six back to back weeks at Baltimore. Yep, that's right.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Cowboys defense, I think that going into this year, and there are times during this year that you're like, this is a solid...


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[Assistant] Elite-ish defense. I'm starting to get the feeling that it's Micah Parsons who's elite and everyone else is just kind of there and good, but not great. Cause he had, uh, three quarterback hits. He had eight pressures in this game. The rest of the Cowboys had only five quarterback pressures.


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[Assistant] See what they are in the playoffs. That's the cowboy season from the beginning was always going to be what do they do in the postseason? Time to get to the close calls from teams that are either playoff teams.


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[Assistant] Hope to be playoff teams on the fringes of it, uh, the maybe games that were a little bit more difficult than they had hoped. Yeah. The Buffalo Bills was one on our NFL exclusive Peacock game. The first time in the history of the world, there was an exclusive game on Peacock and my dad was watching us and he goes, I'm glad that that you guys said it was 599 best deal in the stream. He goes, I think people hear it's like, I got to buy.


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[Assistant] This is a game. Especially when the Chargers are involved. Especially when the Chargers are involved. Uh, first game without, uh,


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[Assistant] Brandon Staley, Giff Smith, who I learned earlier that day that it is Giff and not Jiff. They lost by two. They stayed in this one. They looked as supercharged as they have in a long time.


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[Assistant] So, the Bills, they were down to 16% odds of making the playoffs after that week 12 loss in Philly. They have won three straight, even though this one was closer than we thought. They're up to 85%, but they didn't look like that.


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[Assistant] Team they had looked like previously. What do you make of the Bills performance in this one? Getting a win, but also not looking like the elite team or the better team that they have over the last weeks.


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[Assistant] They did the week before. You just gave me an idea for every number 7 seed in the playoffs. Just stop doing what you did all year and just do something different.


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[Assistant] If they're in. They're in the playoffs right now. They're the sixth seed currently at nine and six. Crazy. Gabe Davis went off again, four catches, 130 yards, a touchdown. Pete notes here, Sims' favorite wide receiver, one B in the NFL.


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[Assistant] That hurts is getting into that Jimmy Garoppolo category where it's just like, there's going to be one play per game that is going to really hurt you.


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[Assistant] What did I want to say here? What did you want to say? Yeah, uh, Tommy Cutlets. That's it. We're done with Tommy DeVito. I'm not- Arrivederci. I'm not shocked.


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[Assistant] They are division champions. They're going to host a playoff game. I hope it's not against Matt Stafford, my second favorite player of all time. But someone's going up the rankings of my third favorite player. He's not there yet, but he's trending in that. He's getting top five already. Jameer Gibbs. He is so fun to watch.


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[Assistant] In the game, Jordan Addison got hurt in the game. So they're down two of their biggest weapons. Justin Jefferson did go off 141 yards, but yeah, Nick Mullins, 411 yards did have those four interceptions. So you got to give some credit to the Lions defense for creating the big turnover. West Krueger asks you, what do you think of Nick Mullins? He gives me heart attacks watching him.


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[Assistant] is out. Green Bay currently the 10 seed also at seven and eight. Uh, Seattle's currently in their eight and seven, although they almost lost. They needed a, a 14 play, I think 75 yard drive at the end to get real good drive at the end of the game. Uh, Seahawks come back and beat the Tennessee Titans.


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[Assistant] 20 to 17, Hawks Straliger chiming in. We'll give him the first statement on this game. He goes damn okay to the Seahawks pass rush, getting six sacks versus the Titans, helping to stop the final drive, sealing the victory after Gino's masterful fourth


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[Assistant] There's no doubt about that. Season high hundred or a season high 34 points for the Pittsburgh Steelers, a career high 195 yards for George Pickens and Pittsburgh currently is still in the mix of course, cause they have Mike Tomlin and they will always be around 500 even when they're not good.


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[Assistant] They are eight and seven. They are the nine seed right now. And I kept asking you this when we had a little time to fill before our Peacock game. I was like, all right. I was like, I mean, the Steelers looking like this.


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[Assistant] Alright, so, neither the Bengals or the Steelers are in right now. The Patriots and Broncos doesn't look like, well, the Patriots we know are not gonna be in. The Broncos, it's trending in that direction too.


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[Assistant] A 26-23 Patriots win on a last second field goal. Your headline for this one is... Mary Christian Barmore. Mary Christian Barmore. Matthew Takis says, for my Patriots, how about damn okay for Christian Barmore, who was a menace to Russell Wilson for the majority of our surprising win over the Broncos, showing why he should be a key leader


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[Assistant] Uh, the Patriots, at least rushing defense, is one of the best in the NFL right now. Fourth in the NFL in yards per play allowed. That's, that's overall defense. They're first in yards per rush allowed. Um, Pete wants to know the signs that Belichick still has his fastball as a defensive genius, I guess. Well, yeah, he does. Cause they've had injuries too on the defensive side.


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[Assistant] And the fact that Chad Ryland missed a field goal, missed an extra point, and then goes out there and hits a 56 yard field goal to win it, was maybe the most surprising thing in that game to me.


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[Assistant] Let's go into the wild card teams, talk a little NFC South, uh, one of the more impressive wins, uh, you know what? Outside of the Ravens, trying to think here off the top of my head.


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[Assistant] I think this was the most impressive performance from any team. The Cleveland Browns taking care easily of the Houston Texans 36-22. Memet 305 says Joe Flacco and his weekly laser show deserves a damn okay. Also Amari Cooper.


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[Assistant] Amari Cooper, this new love affair he's got with Joe Flacco, giving him all the praise after the game. Next Gen Stats tells us that Amari Cooper caught four passes of 148 yards and two touchdowns on seven targets with less than a 33% completion probability.


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[Assistant] The most such yards in a game in the next gen stats era. I can see Jason Garrett just looking at me being like, what did you just try to say right there?


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[Assistant] Let's try to interpret that. So basically, for those plays, eh, there wasn't a pretty good chance that they were going to be able to complete it, but Joe Flacco put it in a good spot, and Amari Cooper made a good play to, for real.


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[Assistant] That's my big concern. They tried to run it, and who knows, it was maybe late when the Texans knew they were going to run it, but it was 30 rushing attempts for just 54 yards. They had an average of 1.8. They cannot run the ball, it's a shame. That's the issue, right?


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[Assistant] Browns, I like the way they're playing right now with their fourth starting quarterback on the season, but I don't know if I like them as well as the next team that we're about to talk about.


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[Assistant] Tampa Bay Buccaneers defeat the Jaguars 30 to 12. And I just want to note, if you're a Buccaneers fan, it is a travesty that you are this late in the podcast. We tried to figure out a way to group you with other categories, but you're not a fish. So he couldn't put you with the 11 fishes category. Uh, but the way that this team is playing deserved to be talked about because


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[Assistant] I think, you know, the Jaguars were a team we thought like maybe by the end of the year we're talking about them being one of the top two teams in the AFC.


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[Assistant] They have fallen off. Let's not start there. Let's not, let's not start there. Cause I think we gotta give Tampa Bay their, their due because Baker's playing at a, at a high level. And this is like a, this is, was a really good team win. Um, maybe more impressive than the Browns, but I just gave the second best win of, uh, of the week.


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[Assistant] Trevor Lawrence suffered a sprained right shoulder in the game according to Ian Rappaport. Uh, not believed to be a major injury.


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[Assistant] But it's unclear how this affects his availability this coming week. Uhm, he's played through everything basically, is what he notes in 2023. So he has been banged up for sure, but, you know, Travis ETN, that home run threat out of the backfield, he has nothing.


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[Assistant] Eight and seven records that are game up on Atlanta and the New Orleans Saints currently right now. And they can clinch the NFC South with a win this week versus the Saints at home, right?


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[Assistant] So John Robinson was the leading rusher and leading receiver. He looks good, maybe his most complete and best game so far. So now yeaah, the Colts, as we sit here right now, still clinging to that 7 seed at 8-7.


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[Assistant] Tied with the same record as the Houston Texans, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Cincinnati Bengals. Of those four teams, you say you wanted to be the most entertaining, best teams.


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[Assistant] Thursday Night Football, the Rams, it seems like forever ago, right? But the Rams, also a team that deserved to be talked about because they are dangerous. They win 30 to 22. Mark Floyd says, damn okay. Matthew Stafford, it's way too late to add him to the MVP race, but wow, the last six weeks have been fun to watch. Hashtag love the pod. Thank you, Mark. I think I threw out a tweet too that said during that game, as that game was happening, I was like, is Matt Stafford the, uh, the MVP?


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[Assistant] And a lot of people said no to me. They wrote back just one word no. Uhm, shouldn't have tweeted it. But, here's the thing.


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[Assistant] He's the reason that they are where they are right now. I think they got some young talent on the defensive side, but the Rams are who they are because of the guy leading them. Definitely, definitely.


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[Assistant] They are in the playoffs right now. They can clinch a playoff spot this week with a win at the Giants plus a Seattle loss versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. Wow. I think either way they're a playoff team. So wait, say that again.


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[Assistant] They gotta beat the Giants, and they need the Seahawks to lose.


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[Assistant] They made it interesting here. The, the Packers did 33 30. They get the win over the Panthers. Jordan loves third game winning drive this season in a game where Bryce young was trying to get a game winning driver, a late comeback and probably maybe his, probably his best game as a pro.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was career highs in passing yards for Bryce Young, yards per attempt, passer rating too, which speaks to them keeping things going and then not like just totally being depressed on the way that this year has gone. It also does speak to the Packers defense.


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[Assistant] They're 6-9 right now on a season where they did not look like they had the talent to be a 6-win team. And so they're trending in the right direction. Uh, the New York Jets!


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[Assistant] Are trending in the right direction while the Washington commanders go the opposite way. Although this was a very entertaining game back and forth. I was like, well, the commanders are getting blown out.


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[Assistant] And then they came back and thought they were going to win the game. Jets do finally win at 30 to 28. What's your takeaway from this one?


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[Assistant] He's really talented and then my, my son has gotten into like looking at PFF and like sorting some things on there and he's like bigging to pick sixes. And so he's like, I wanna see all the pick sixes. I was like, alright, we can do that. And I was like, dang.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of pick sixes from this guy that I was very complimentary about, Sam Howell. I mean, he's kind of like in the Desmond Ritter category of...


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[Assistant] Won't have to worry about it next year because it will be Aaron Rodgers responsibility. Like everything will be his. Offensively, defensively, making the calls. He's the GM. He basically takes over the team once again next year. Yeah. Running it back for the New York Jets. All right. That's it. That's every game from the Christmas weekend. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I know you can't control it, but if you could, where would you wanna go?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't, I don't think it's a big change. I think it's just, again, we gotta, gotta find a way to score one more point than they do. And every season, if you don't win, it's, it's a failed season. That's the nature of the business. Um, you know, there's one, one happy team at the end of,


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[Assistant] The season really, and uh, when it's not you, when you're so close, it just, it sucks.


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[Assistant] Now we're actually talking about uh, 400 players for the giraffe. Things really changed.


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[Assistant] I think what's interesting for you too is that you probably, as much as you probably try to avoid it, hear things about these guys for six months or whatever it is, then you dive in and do a big deep dive study all at once. Not everything will be a false narrative, but you'll find things that


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[Assistant] And obviously, notorious for standing on your own rankings, not going with consen- consensus, which, looking at how shrouded last year, good for you. Well, that was good, yea, that was a good one, for sure. Right, a hundred percent, so.


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[Assistant] So I think it's starting to catch up a little bit, but for the longest time I couldn't figure out why people look at this gap from Marvin Harrison Jr., the colossal gap down in Malik neighbors. And I love Marvin Harrison Jr. He's been my number one player since the summer he hasn't moved. Special, all that, this and that.


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[Assistant] So I actually have a group where, you know, maybe you want to put Marvin in his own tier and then neighbors, but then Adunze with Brian Thomas Jr., the other LSU wide receiver, I think he's a top 15 player in the draft. And you just, he doesn't get discussed because


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[Assistant] They left a lot on the field for this guy, with some hanging deep balls, where his numbers should have been even bigger. Another one, a good transition right there is,


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[Assistant] I have Pennex and Jayden Daniels in a tier together. I don't see it, you know, I have Caleb Williams and Drake May higher, but then Pennex and Daniels to me are tiered right together, where everybody has Daniels as the number three pick in the draft.


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[Assistant] A lot of people are like, well, Penix is a day two guy. And they're very different, so you can't discuss them that way, but in terms of quarterback prospects, I think Penix is the best pocket passer in the draft. I do. Now, it doesn't mean he has the highest ceiling, it doesn't mean he's the best, you know, the guy you take top five, the medicals are a big thing at the combine, although I expect them to go better than people think.


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[Assistant] But I think he's the most complete pocket passer in the draft, and if you're comfortable with him medically, there is no reason why you shouldn't take him in the first round.


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[Assistant] Easily. Easily. Caleb Williams, and Drake May, and Jaden Daniels, and JJ McCarthy, they will go in the first round. The question is, will they all go in the top ten? And there's, I'd put the odds higher that they do than they don't. And then the question is, can Bo Nix make it in? Some people think he can.


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[Assistant] I mean the fact that we could even have the discussion Chris about seven guys in the


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[Assistant] There's two things. One, so many teams need quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Okay, so Daniel Jones has one more year guaranteed money. Right. You still haven't taken your guy if you're Joe Shane and Brian Dable.


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[Assistant] The Giants should not be picking in the top 10 next year, no matter what happens. This was a colossal disappointment this season. If you think you're not going to be picking in the top 10 next year, and the quarterback class isn't nearly as good next year, you should have your scouts a year ahead. Not all teams do, but they probably do.


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[Assistant] I mean, I would love the Giants to take a wide receiver or something more explosive for the offense, but they have to be thinking, man, maybe there's a part of us that if we don't do this now, what is our solution under center long term?


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[Assistant] I think Jaden has the weakest arm of the top six quarterbacks, but I think there's so many other things that he does better than all of them. Like I love the release, I love the touch throwing, and his ability, not as a scrambler, as a runner with the football. It's special. It's special. It's far and away.


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[Assistant] It's absolutely effortless, the throwing. And when you go back and watch 2022, he was as good as I've seen against pressure for a college quarterback. As good as I've seen. It tailed off this year because I think he went out there thinking, I have to score 70 points or we're gonna lose. And I think, and this is a good question for you, as a quarterback,


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[Assistant] Doesn't that completely change your mindset pregame going, well we're gonna give up 50 today, so I'm gonna have to do some things that I wouldn't do in a better situation.


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[Assistant] So 11 through 13, the Vikings, Broncos, and Raiders, I think everybody is wondering which of them will be the most aggressive to come up for a quarterback and if they have to. Because they're all kinda pinned against each other, right? The Vikings, we need to see what happens with Kirk Cousins in free agency, although I don't think that completely takes quarterback off the table for them, even if he came back.


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[Assistant] The Broncos, Sean Payton absolutely wants one. It's been the worst kept secret for months. And the same with the Raiders. I mean, you gotta think with Antonio Pierce, and he probably won't have this opportunity, but Antonio Pierce coached Jayden Daniels in high school, recruited him to Arizona State. I mean, he's clearly a big fan of Jayden Daniels, the player.


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[Assistant] How high can the Raiders go? Will New England answer the phone at 3? Can control what the strap looks like?


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[Assistant] They restructured Carr, so it makes me wonder, like you said, Chris, do you look at a day two guy that knows he's gonna sit? Because at 14, it feels like that guy comes knocking on the door early, and Carr's money, it feels like he's there for the next two years.


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[Assistant] Right. In that area. And with situations like that, you know you've been in these rooms.


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[Assistant] When the coaches get involved in scouting, which is typically now, is when things can change. Where not everybody knows everything right now. All it takes is one offensive coordinator that goes, we're gonna win with Bo Nix. I don't care if we take him at 13 or whatever it is. We're gonna win with Bo Nix. If that coach is out there, then Bo Nix is gonna go.


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[Assistant] Wide receiver. Wide receiver. Wide receiver. It's that deep. Yeah, I did a top 75 in January. I had 14. Wow. I don't think I've ever had that happen. And it made me step back.


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[Assistant] It's everything. It's got the blue chip at the top, Marvin Harrison Jr., Malik Neighbors. It's got the depth in the first round with Brian Thomas Jr., Roma Dunze, Troy Franklin from Oregon.


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[Assistant] But then you get into day two and it just feels like starter, starter, starter all over again. Right. It's, it's insane and it's got speed, it's got slot players, it's got every kind of flavor. When I finished that top 75 and had 14, I, I double, I'm like, is this,


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[Assistant] My just far ahead on the wide receivers and have I caught up to everywhere else, but you go through it and a lot of people doing rankings around the league and media, they're fine in the same way. It's just a great wide receiver class and these guys are going to fly in Indy. They're all going to fly. One is not a great receiver class. It feels that way.


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[Assistant] He got beat against Ohio State, what, two times, and everybody thought it was the end of the world. That's how good he is in passpro, that you highlight those moments.


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[Assistant] A guy that football came to his life pretty late, he was playing basketball, played high school football really late.


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[Assistant] So he's only a two year starter. I think people forget that he's gonna get better. He needs to play more. But the pass pro.


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[Assistant] I mean, how Vital Pass Pro is in this league, that alone makes him a top 10. Definitely. In my opinion. Then you get to the group of Taliza Fuaga, a lot of right tackles now. So those two are left tackles.


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[Assistant] Then you get to the other first rounders that could go in the top 15. Taliza Fuaga from Oregon State. Gotcha. Best run blocker I think in the draft. Okay. Just destroys people. Right. Destroys people. He plays with an edge. He's got really heavy hands. Nobody can rush through him.


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[Assistant] But they do cross his face. These two guys, him and J.C. Latham, they don't bring their feet with them all the time in pass protection, and they lunge, and they're big. Latham's 360, Fuaga's gonna play closer to 340, so when you lunge it that way,


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[Assistant] It's hard to pop back up where you watch Fashanu.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's springy as they come. Where you're just like, oh, this guy can mirror any way you want.


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[Assistant] But what you get with Latham and Fuaga is, you can run behind them 40 times a game. Gotcha. And they'll just completely relocate people. Gotcha. So they're gonna go in the top 15 because of that. The wild card, Troy Fontenot from Washington. Yea, right. I mean, yea, got a good close look at him early in the year. Played left tackle, kinda has a guard body, although his arms aren't as short as people think, and they'll see that at the combine. Right.


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[Assistant] I think he could play, it's Elijah Vera Tucker conversation all over again. He'll be fine at tackle, probably be a Pro Bowl guard. Where is he gonna go? How high is he gonna go? I think he's gonna go in the top 20. And then you get these guys that are like Tyler Guyton from Oklahoma, one year starter at right tackle.


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[Assistant] But, if you want the closest thing, athletically, physically gifted to Fashanu, it's him. I mean, it's all there. And then you go down to the senior bowl, highly competitive, so...


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[Assistant] Yeah, Jackson Powers Johnson from Oregon, first round center, at 330 pound center. Wow. The last guy I remember like that was Frank Ragnow, who's been great for the Lions, but just a burly center that you can really have him drive people off the ball, but he's athletic, he can move at that size.


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[Assistant] So, and it's weird, we've had the era of the small center, like, Linderbaum coming out was kinda small. We've had some small centers, uhm, who the, uh, the Eagles drafted. Juergens. Yes. Right. 100%. This is not the case with him.


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[Assistant] So just the wrestling background on the offensive line is one of the most translatable things right now. Frazier is the guy who got hurt at the end of the year so he missed the senior bowl, but to me he's a borderline first round talent that probably goes day two. And just really impressive, has played a ton of football.


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[Assistant] But man, after that, it's just a lot of guys that you go, okay, I like them in our committee. Yeah. Blake Corum, Trey Benson, you know, I like them in our committee. They're going to be fine NFL players.


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[Assistant] Think of the guys that are special. Bijan, Gibbs, Brees. They were all drafted in the top 40. They touch the ball and everybody goes, he could be gone. I don't see someone in this class that scares me like that.


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[Assistant] Donovan Edwards from Michigan went back to school. He would have been the closest thing to a Gibbs player. He's not Jameer Gibbs, but that guy that, oh, the hole's gone. Let me just bounce outside, I'm gone. That kind of guy.


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[Assistant] I think he's the best corner. I'm not afraid to say it. Cause everybody goes, oh well he plays a lot of off coverage and uses his eyes and awareness and yes, he's amazing at that. It's Iowa, they play that way. That's how they play. It's not his fault. I mean, I think if he was healthy and was going to run at the combine, I genuinely think he ran at least a 4-4.


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[Assistant] That's fine, because his ball hawking is unbelievable. I mean, he catches everything, he's dangerous with the returning.


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[Assistant] I don't think, it's not like the guys though that we've had, like witherspoons, sauce, people saw Stingley that way, it's not.


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[Assistant] It's not that level, to me. That's why I don't think this corner class has the blue chip at the top top. Gotcha. But you have this run of guys that are all gonna go in the first round. Right. Dejean, I like Nate Wiggins from Clemson a lot. Okay. He's 6'2", he's lanky, but he can run, he can jump.


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[Assistant] I mean, he can fly. It's Clemson athlete, 100% that can cover. I would say the guy that


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[Assistant] He's got strength. Same with Quinian Mitchell from Toledo. Another guy. All they did at Toledo in college is play off. 10 yards off. But he went down in the senior bowl and got his hands on people and nobody can get away from him. And Mitchell's gonna test really well so he's gonna go in the first round. Mitchell is a dark horse to be the first corner taken.


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[Assistant] Leatu Latu from UCLA, probably the most interesting guy. Catches my eye when I saw him this year. Looks like Jalen Phillips. It's the best tape you're gonna watch out of the pass rushers. Can counter every move in the toolbox. So why hasn't he won? Like what is it? He was medically retired from Washington. Okay. Medically retired.


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[Assistant] He's got the same medical issues here. At UCLA, clears him. Right. Dominates for two years. Right. Dominates. Now, I don't think he's gonna test, which at Edge, this matters. Yea. At Edge Russia, it matters. He's not going to test like these other guys. Right. And you have to wonder how that affects him, how much it affects him at the pro level. Yup. But his hands, he's got the best hands. Him and verse.


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[Assistant] I take him. Yep. It's just every, he's dialed in completely, every move is in the toolbox, and it's not that he's out there just trying things. Yep. It's refined. So who's the freakiest athlete of the group? Chop Robinson, from Penn State. The Penn State kid.


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[Assistant] And hold the edge, and blow up the run. What kind of body are we talking about, like, check? Kinda squat, like Carl Lawson-ish? A little bit that way, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That squatty, like- Right.


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[Assistant] They have to over set and then he's gonna learn how to counter inside.


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[Assistant] Murphy will be, cause he's got that Kalajuk Kansi from last year that he could just take over from the interior as a rusher. He could shoot gaps, he's explosive, he can wreck the game, we like to say. Byron Murphy from Texas.


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[Assistant] Newton is a guy that can stack and shed, he played some running back in high school, so he's a really good athlete, but he's got the girth, another 6'1", 300 pounds, great hands, just understands how to always get off blocks, and you watch the scheme.


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[Assistant] He can control the line of scrimmage. You can't run at him. I think he's a way better pass rusher than anyone gives him credit for. Like he can really forklift offensive linemen into the pocket. Every year,


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[Assistant] One thing he has to check off with the combine, and I've never, I've been to eight of the last nine senior bowls, maybe it's my memory, I can't remember this ever happening. He didn't weigh in.


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[Assistant] But if he comes in the combine and he just figured it out for a couple weeks and he's 360,


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[Assistant] You're gonna watch a tape. A tape is tremendous. Because he can completely anchor the line of scrimmage. And that's what wins football games right now. Because if you can't run at a guy, but you also know he can push the pocket, that part of the field is over for you. It's over. So he's a total wild card of this draft in that class.


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[Assistant] The wild card is Peyton Wilson from NC State. I have him 61. His body has been just torn apart throughout college. I know some shoulder injuries, which is always my biggest fear at the position. But the tape is tremendous. He's a really good athlete. He's been a leader for that program.


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[Assistant] Payton Wilson, there's no questions about the player. I don't think there's a lot of questions about the athlete. Right. It's just, do you have them for three games, or do you have them for 80% of the season? Yea, gotcha. I don't think anyone can answer that. Right, right. Alright, so we got...


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[Assistant] Bowers is phenomenal. He's phenomenal. He's every bit better than Pitts. Right. And that drives people nuts because they're like, Pitts has been a let down. Bowers was Georgia's offense as a freshman and a sophomore. Agreed. And everybody, he's a tight end. He plays wide receiver, he plays slot, he plays on the line of scrimmage, he plays in the backfield. Right. I mean. He's not as big as I thought he was going to be when we met him at the start.


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[Assistant] Same usage, 100%. He's NFL ready. He just, nobody tackles him. Yea, right. Runs through everybody. Incredible, like, contact strength, power, all of that. Makes plays above the rim on the ball. Yea. I mean, can really climb the ladder and go up and get the ball.


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[Assistant] Are the best tackles I've evaluated over the last couple of years. Okay, okay. For sure. Alright, that's high praise. Yeah. Yeah. They're, I mean, and there's no que- like he's a tackle. Yeah. Like I loved Icky and it's been a tough ride for Icky with Carolina. Right. Ups and downs. Right. But everybody knew Icky might be a better guard. Yeah. With Alton Sewell, it's always, this is just what a tackle looks like. Got you. 100%. I would say that's about it.


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[Assistant] And then you get into the conversation of how good can Drake Mae and Fashanu and Dallas Turner, how good can they be? Because their ceilings are.


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[Assistant] Super high. Insanely high. Right. They're just a little far away right now. Gotcha. Gotcha. And they're young. All three are really young. Okay. So, I would be patient enough to roll with them.


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[Assistant] I don't think so because he just hasn't rushed the passer. Gotcha. A really good athlete can absolutely dom- tell me if you've heard this before with a Jenkins, dominate in the trenches against the run. Yea. Uhm, he can hold the point of attack, he can take on double teams and not get moved. He's probably middle of the second round.


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[Assistant] Just muscle on muscle, sees everything really well before the snap. Right. He understands how to crash into a rush lane and it's, I'm, I'm a truck coming down here. Like I'm coming in with intensity. Right. I think he is such a good tackler when coming to balance. He just breaks down smoothly. Clemson Steve was real, it looks like. It's amazing how they do this every year.


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[Assistant] I wasn't shocked to hear D-Line. Rook-a-ro-ro-ro. You're gonna have fun saying that name. Yeah, ro-ro-ro. Uh, he's a good D-Liman in this draft, day two player as well. I think that with Trotter,


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[Assistant] You just wonder how high you draft a guy where the sideline to sideline speed is average. It's average. Where Peyton Wilson and Junior Colson, they fly. They fly. And this league, look at all the guys that were taken outside of the first couple rounds that are the top linebackers in the league. They fly. Greenlaw, Fred Warner, Quincy Williams. They're all like 225 and run 4-3. All the good defenses have


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[Assistant] He clearly puts in the study, like when I got to talk to him at the Super Bowl, just told me how before each practice he had studied all the corners he was going to go against and knew their tendencies how to win. And he won, so it's not like it was BS. I think that he's somebody


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[Assistant] Transfer from Colorado to USC, didn't figure it out at Colorado and was one of Caleb Williams' main targets this year. Caught 12 touchdowns. It's just a matter of will he run away from people at the next level. That's what we gotta see. But big bodied player that makes things happen at the Caps.


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[Assistant] I thought he'd run away from more people in mobile and drills against those corners. Cause I saw on tape he runs away from people. He's smooth, the routes are really good. It's just a matter of does he have something that's a calling card? Like is the speed high end? Are the routes just so good that that's gonna help him separate from the pack?


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[Assistant] Ricky Pearsall from Florida was a much, much better player than him in turn, and he doesn't get that kind of love. Pearsall catches everything, he separates at all three phases.


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[Assistant] Yeah, did he? Yeah, really good shrine week, obviously a smaller back, but he's gonna get drafted as well. Small school player. Gotcha. Uhm, but yeah, Frank Kord Jr., absolutely one of the most notable ones in this draft.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's not looking to just run through people all the time, but he's shifty. He's shifty. Actually, I think it's weird. You would think these kids get more appreciated because they're famous dads, but with him it was the opposite. Like, it's just crazy. Like, nobody cared about him in college and he's a good player.


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[Assistant] Like, no exaggeration, this is a really good draft because of the, you know, as you say, like the freak shows in it. That's what it's full of. They're just freaks at wide receiver, some pass rushers, some corners, some really different dudes, for sure.


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[Assistant] Disappointing. It's, it's one class that I still need to do the deep dive on. I've only done the top guys. I like Tyler Newbon from Minnesota because he could play any spot. He could play downhill. He could play free. He's got sideline to sideline range with ball hawking. He tackles. Ball production was really good, but


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[Assistant] After him, it just to me was a disappointing class. Cam Kintchens from Miami was supposed to be that dude, and it's just been okay. Right. Okay. Yeah. So. Alright. So we're gonna save these


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[Assistant] I think they will, but what if they go get Justin Fields or Kirk Cousins and then we're like, okay, the eighth pick is either first sale or they're going to get a big time player.


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[Assistant] So, Atlanta's really interesting to me. Those teams I talked about at 11 to 13.


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[Assistant] I'm with ya. I think it comes down to this. Can Ryan Poles go into another draft, not take his guy, trade the pick again?


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[Assistant] And then, if it doesn't work out, for whatever reason, never get that crack again and go, man, I passed on.


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[Assistant] A lot of quarterbacks over my time and never really swung the bat.


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[Assistant] Because now teams gotta, look at the Raiders, right? The Raiders say, hypothetically, they really wanted to come up for a Jaden Daniels kind of player. But they call, after the combine, you get a feel at the combine. Who's gonna pick up, who's like, don't bother, on and on and on. If they come away from the combine and they're like, you know what?


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[Assistant] We can't get up. We could offer three ones. We can't get where we need to go.


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[Assistant] Do you go, we'll trade two threes or a two for fields instead? Because are we just gonna go into the year with Aiden O'Connell and a good team? I mean, they got a decent team.


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[Assistant] That's where these things aren't answerable right now, I think, with fields. And then, but Chicago though, I'm with you all the way. I think they take Caleb Williams and they trade fields.


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[Assistant] And that's, there's another variable. Right. The coachings, fact that, yea, him and Getzi, it was a weird situation there. Uh, but yea, they're one of the examples, right? We talked about Atlanta. That's the question, how many teams? Atlanta to me is the team to watch out for.


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[Assistant] I mean, you brought up a great point about Getzi being with the Raiders. Say a team like that doesn't have any interest of fields because of that previous relationship. I mean, his market really starts to shrink. It really does. Atlanta's somebody that we talk about, but after that, it's, I mean,


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[Assistant] So TNeko23 wants the Titans to nab T Higgins for a second. Bengals officially franchise tag to Higgins today. He gets 21.8 million estimated on the tag, if he plays under the tag. I mean it just feels like this is one where the Bengals are...


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then with uh, with Higgins, he just turned 25, so even when they could stop tagging him, he's still gonna get that payday. He is. I mean, say you collect two.


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[Assistant] Kyle Lear 5, Chiefs re-sign Chris Jones and Ligeria Sneed. Jones is an all-time great, and definitely a Chiefs great. Sneed is a top 5 corner, and loved by the fans for the last 3 years. The Chiefs draft well and can focus on wide receiver and tackle, but really hard to replace those two.


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[Assistant] Sneed feels like at 27 years old already. I mean, you tag him if you can. You could do that. Ride it out until he's almost 30. Uh huh.


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[Assistant] And then, I mean, it's gonna be 28. A lot of corners, it tails off quick when you get close to 30.


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[Assistant] Alright, this one from Lipsmacklinggood, Michael Pittman on the Chiefs, I think it's the best fit, love the show. Pete, don't forget, I'm available when Ahmed is out. Alright. Woah, what the, Connor's here! Yeah. Connor's here!


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[Assistant] Yeah, tough, tough for me. Uhm, Michael Pittman is probably staying with the Colts, I would think. Pretty comfortable. Him and Mahomes would be a great fit, don't get me wrong. I mean, Pittman can do everything. That's the thing. He's a great fit anywhere.


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[Assistant] Alright, a couple more here. These ones on the Jets from Tony Lee. Ooh. For the Jets to re-sign Bryce Huff, hashtag pay the man. This is gonna be an interesting one.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's just one of those you should have found a way to get this done. And when you get to the market, like you said, Chris,


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[Assistant] Things can go to a number that you didn't expect and you have no answer. And everyone's like, well, they drafted Will MacDonald last year. That's not how the Jets defense works. It's not, oh, you have Will MacDonald and Jermaine Johnson here. They rotate all of them. You need three edge rushers that get after it. Who's number three if you lose Bryce Hough in a year where you think you're going to be closing out games because Aaron Rodgers is back.


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[Assistant] I'd be nervous. Is he franchise taggable here? I think he is, but they, I don't think they will tag him. You don't think they'll do it? No, I don't think they'll do it. The edge number, the DN number is? What, 24? It's pretty high. It's probably 26. And there's like levels of the tag, you have the transition tag, which is probably closer to 20, which is what I would do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't see it. I don't see it either. And there's some teams that are going to be spending big on pass rushers. Washington, I think, will. I think the Bears could. There's a couple out there.


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[Assistant] This one from a Packers fan on the Jets, Justin Bigler, 78, Packers trade Bakhtiari to the Jets for their third round pick.


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[Assistant] Hmm. I don't think they're gonna be able to trade Bakhtiari when you look at the money he's owed and how little he's played. No. Even as desperate as the Jets are at tackle, I mean Bakhtiari I feel like has openly said he hates everything about the turf situation in the NFL. The Jets have the worst turf in the NFL. Yeah, well he was the first one that came


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[Assistant] I mean, unless I'm missing something, it's, you made your bed, you got one more year of it, you gotta ride this out.


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[Assistant] A couple giants wishes. Good. Johnny Weaver. Joe Shane trades up in the draft and gets his quarterback. It's kind of what we opened with.


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[Assistant] A little bit. Pete is saying please. Yea, of course he is. When I was in the mobile, I asked a lot of people about the Giants, cause they're that pivot point. Yea, right. You know, sixes could be anyone. And I got more answers of...


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[Assistant] Like you said with Daniel Jones, they still like Daniel Jones.


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[Assistant] To me, the best possible outcome for the Giants is to get Malik neighbors and just be like, we have an explosive wide receiver that we haven't had since Odell Beckham. Let's see what the offense can do with that X factor in it now.


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[Assistant] So we'll see, and then the last one for the Giants, 10 to 80. I wish I can be happy as a Giants fan again.


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[Assistant] My wish is Tristan Werfs, Mike Evans, and Baker Mayfield working together to take team friendly deals so the Bucks can afford to buy depth in their trenches. Keep in mind here, Antoine Winfield Jr., Levante David, and Devon White are also unrestricted free agents. Werfs is not a free agent, but he's entering his fifth year option season. They have a lot of work to do. They definitely have a lot of work to do.


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[Assistant] But not going to ruin your football team. He was very vocal to Super Bowl about the situation. He wants to be there. He's not just meeting with everyone and going anywhere. No, I think he would love that.


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[Assistant] For Antoine Winfield, the franchise tag for safety would only be 17.1 million, so they have that insurance option if they can't get a deal done. Sticking with Mike Evans, this one from ya boi Varnia, wish for the Panthers, Mike Evans to the Panthers. Don't you think Evans though is going to be ring-chasing a little at the end here?


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[Assistant] Because a contender will still pay him. He's not taking a discount. Yeah, I mean...


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[Assistant] Do you think the thousand yards streak means something to him? He's, he's had a thousand yards all ten of his NFL seasons going somewhere where you know that's gonna keep going. I mean, that's, that's a legacy thing. How many guys said, I played 14 years in the NFL and I had a thousand yards every year. That's unbelievable.


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[Assistant] Not a lot of people do. No. They're also a team that, they could sit where they are on the draft and if they just took Bo Nix or Pennix, you'd be like, oh, they don't, like, they don't care what everyone else thinks. No, no, that's the judge's right. Sean is definitely not.


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[Assistant] We talked about Kirk Cousins and the Vikings earlier. Red and purple, 77. Can it be a two in one? Kirk extended for two years and the Vikings drafting a first round rookie quarter. I would say no. Right.


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[Assistant] Niko Waco 19, a wish for the commanders. Bring Kirk back, trade down, and add some value in the draft. Tackle, corner, edge, tight end.


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[Assistant] Couple on the Lions, Jordan Cole, 11, Jalen Johnson to the Lions, Dustin Whitehead, Christian Wilkins, or Deneil Hunter to the Lions. So Chris, let me ask you this.


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[Assistant] More important, help up front or help on the back end of the corner.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so Brad Spielberger from PFF is, he hits the nail on the head with projections. He has the Neil Hunter getting 21.67 million per year over three years with 40 of it guaranteed. Yeaah. That's a, that's a pass rush for contract. Yeaah, that makes sense. Yeaah. It does. That does. But to answer that question, I go James.


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[Assistant] They took Quinton Johnson last year. Not a good rookie season. Yeaah. Really interesting cap crunch. Mike Williams coming off injury. And a big cap number. Yeaah. It's gonna be interesting. Same be said for Keenan Allen. Right. I mean, I think pass catcher is right in play for the Chargers at five. Could be Brock Bowers, could be Malik Nabors, could be Roma Duense.


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[Assistant] This would be my personal favorite fit for Justin Herbert. They just don't have a guy like this. That's that explain- I think he's closer to DJ Moore in terms of the type of player. They don't have that kind of player.


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[Assistant] That quarterback class feels like a good lesson to all of us that sometimes quarterback class just doesn't have that guy. I mean, Purdy's gonna end up the best quarterback out of the class.


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[Assistant] But, and nobody thought of Purdy in that conversation at the time, but it was like, who's the, there has to be a guy. Went through the Desmond Ritter arguments and the Malik Willis, Corral, and there just wasn't a guy at the end of the day.


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[Assistant] I should have learned for myself when describing Pickett that year, I'd always say, man, I, you hope he can become Derek Carr. When you say that about a prospect, you should probably, you know, realize that it's the miss rate and the ceiling is extremely-


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[Assistant] One question for Sims. Chris, are you a full-blown sex addict? And then he put in parentheses Connor knows. Connor knows. So I'll explain this. My draft podcast that I do at PFF is called The Stock Exchange. So the people that listen to it


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[Assistant] Yeah, don't worry. You're rich. You can buy another one. It's no problem. You got plenty of money there, buddy. Don't you worry. You'll get another one. What, uh, let's see. You got it with you today there, Mr. Musical? No, I don't. Oh, you don't? Come on, Beethoven. What the hell? Why didn't you bring it up today? I think your next thing.


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[Assistant] Well, I think you should have to play like the Sunday Night Football theme music. That should be the next thing you play for the folks out there. Learn how to do that. Okay? Can you learn that?


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[Assistant] What do you, what do you, why? What do you mean? She goes, like, she barks and- She hates it! She hates it? It drives her nuts! Yeah, well, welcome to the club. Macy, join the club. That's okay, don't worry, you'll be okay.


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[Assistant] That's five though. 80 and 85 is five. You're five games back. Get counting. Five games. What did I say? You said four. Don't cheat me out of my game. You know, I just, I got five. Okay. I'm five. All right. Sorry.


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[Assistant] I think I had a Friday, I had the Black Friday Dolphins game as part of my weekend picks. Which is easy, I mean come on. You take the defense off the field versus the Jets, I'm not sure they're going to score a point. In fact, you almost feel like the Jets


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[Assistant] Their offense will give the other team some points at some point. So that was comical. Was that not hilarious watching the hell Mary at the end of that black Friday game or at first half there?


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[Assistant] Okay, well damn, you brought him up. You brought 10 boil up, and that's what got me there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. Enough of that. Yeah. Well, what I wanted to say though about Javon Holland is different defensive scheme this year. Still the same awesome player.


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[Assistant] Last year in a scheme, right, Mike, we talk about this a lot. They blitzed a ton, you know, with Boyer, the old holdover from Flores.


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[Assistant] He is such a talented safety. They asked him to do things that most safeties in football were not asked.


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[Assistant] His PFF grade wasn't good because of that. So then everybody thinks he's not good, even though I voted him for him all pro last year. Now he's in a different defense where he's not asked to do crazy things all the time.


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[Assistant] And now I got people coming up to me left and right. Hey, Jamal Holland. He's a hell of a player, huh? He's a good player, huh? And it just, it drives me crazy. And also I'm glad to see the guy get the credit he deserves because he's awesome.


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[Assistant] I can understand why the money's on the Cowboys for sure. There's no question they're a better football team than Seattle Seahawks, right? You know, the nine points, I understand that too. We know when the Cowboys win, they don't just win, they usually obliterate you, right? There's some things there we talked about on PFT this morning.


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[Assistant] You know, the Seahawks, the offensive line's not good. It's not. That's gotta be a concern against the Dallas Cowboys who arguably got the best pass Russian football. It's right up there with anybody, right? You know, they got good cover corners. They make plays that way. The Seahawks can't run the ball, right? They're not good on third down.


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[Assistant] They're not good, uh, in the red zone. So those are issues. Now where I will say, and you heard me say this earlier, where I do think they have a, uh, a puncher's chance is that the,


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[Assistant] The Cowboys do play aggressive. They play man to man. They get in your face and we know that they got three studs at receiver in Seattle.


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[Assistant] That can make some things happen. Let alone they have a desperation thing here. There's no doubt there's gotta be more desperation on Seattle's side than Dallas' side. Who also needs to be desperate? I know that. They're trying to win the number one seed.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, you flip it around and the Seahawks defense, you know, a little bit, hey, their offense doesn't help them out. Their offense is one of the worst at staying on the field in football, but it's the Seahawks defense. That's not always sound. You know, I think that's the biggest problem. There's better talent than what they play.


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[Assistant] Now, there's not enough difference makers up front on the front seven. Uh, that concerns me.


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[Assistant] I do think again, Dallas kind of simple on offense. It's not crazy. They've just


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[Assistant] Push the ball down the field a little bit more, and I think that plays into Seattle's favor a little bit. I'm taking the Cowboys to win, but the nine points is too much for me. I think this is a, gotta have it, you know, desperation, we might fall out of the playoffs type performance by Seattle. I think they keep it close and hang around, but Cowboys 24-21.


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[Assistant] Okay, I like it. Listen, some of the things you said, I don't disagree with. It is scary. It is. And it definitely could be a game where all of a sudden, hey, strip sack fumbles, pick six, whatever. That's what's scary about Dallas.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna play the Seattle's on their best behavior tonight. We'll see where it goes. Put your money where your mouth is and make it a best bet tonight, alright there buddy?


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is, it's interesting, you know, uh, I'm, I'm like you when I saw that I went, oh, three and a half. And I know that's not a big number. I just thought, well, that's more than I expected.


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[Assistant] I thought maybe Texans favored by one, one and a half type of thing there, right? Denver's defense. We hit on this earlier today. You know, their past defense has been the real deal Holyfield here the last four or five weeks, six weeks, maybe really, you know, they do a good job. They force fumbles on the defensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] They can get after the passer a little bit. The big question is going to be, I think they could slow down CJ Stroud in the passing game.


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[Assistant] To a degree, I do. I think they got the right scheme and personnel in the back end to do that to where like CJ Strab doesn't throw for over 300 yards.


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[Assistant] What I do worry about is Denver's run defense. You heard me say that last week. I again think that stands true this week. You know, this is a Texans offense that's shown the ability to run the ball and they're kind of creative upfront on how they run the ball. So that's where I worry about it all together.


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[Assistant] I, the Broncos, you know, they've had the right game plan in every game. So, you know, ever since they started the, the 70 to 20, you know, rebuild of their football team after the dolphins, dolphins, uh, loss and debacle down there.


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[Assistant] Now the other side of the ball, the Broncos offense, it's not going to ever light up the scoreboard. It's not going to do that. We know that. And this Texans defense is...


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[Assistant] Fast as hell, got a pretty good front seven, and they're one of the better zone teams in football in the back end and passing things off that way. I'm gonna go with the Texans to win the game, but the three and a half is a little too much to me.


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[Assistant] You know, it's an interesting matchup. Like I said, and I worry about the Texans. If they start to really have their way in the run game, then that's going to be, Oh no, CJ Stroud and the play action pass. Watch out, but I'm going to go Texas 20 to 17 and have the Broncos cover this one.


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[Assistant] Chris, who do you got? No, it doesn't matter, right? Nothing's gonna change. This is a game where I actually think the Chargers defense could look real good in, of course.


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[Assistant] You know, there's just not a lot of answers New England has schematically player wise, whatever, you know, the biggest weapon on their offense right now is DiMario Douglas. And he's in, he's in concussion protocol. If I remember that correctly, I think so. Yeah, he is. So we'll see where that goes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the, the Patriots are, are falling apart in front of our eyes. Now their defense is still a pain in the butt and plays well and their sound and...


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[Assistant] They got enough pieces there to where I don't think the Chargers are going to just go up and down the field on the Patriots defense. I don't, but it'll be more of the story. Like we always kind of talk about with these types of teams, the defense, the dam will break eventually just because their offense stinks and it'll be off the field too quickly too many times during the game.


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[Assistant] I think the Chargers just slowly wear down the Patriots. Uh, I'm gonna make a 23 to 13 Chargers on the road.


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[Assistant] I like, I look at this game, right? You know, and you know me, I try to kind of say every week a little bit about, hey, here's a game to me where an upset can happen. Okay. I'm picking the lines to win the game. I'll get that out of the way right now. I am.


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[Assistant] I think there's avenues here where the Saints can win this football game. I think there's, you know, some things in the matchup overall that I look at and go, huh.


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[Assistant] You know, that could be a pain in the butt for the Detroit Lions. You know, one, hey, the Saints can play some man coverage, right? You heard me say the other day, one of the issues with Detroit


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[Assistant] Other than Jameson Williams is they don't really have guys that can separate versus man to man.


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[Assistant] Amon Rasim Brown can separate, but he works in that, you know, five to 15 range. It's not the kind of guy that, you know, you're going to see him deep down the field consistently all game long. He's going to be in the slot, kind of work in leverages and things that way, right? So they're going to make Jared Goff throw some passes into some tight windows. I think that's the thing I look at to be interesting.


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[Assistant] Right? You know, the Saints do have some big people. They, they, you know, should be able to, they're, they're, they're breaking apart a little bit, but at least not get run over in the run game by the Lions and what they do.


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[Assistant] The Saints, the other thing they do because of that tight man-to-man coverage, and you heard me talk about Paul Sinodabo, who's the best corner on the Saints now, and one of the best corners in football.


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[Assistant] Right? He can play on an island. They get a lot of interceptions. They're one of the league leaders in interceptions. Jared Goff got a turnover problem right now. We know that. It's in the dome. It's desperation for the Saints. Here's the other side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Lot of short passes, dink and dong, boom boom boom, boom boom boom, they pick you apart. They're pretty good at that. To the point where you go like, can you open it up a little bit?


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[Assistant] The Lions, you've heard me say this, they don't want to play man. They're not a good man football team. They don't have those kinds of guys. If they play man, you know, against Chris Olavi and I need to look at Shahid Shahid healthy here or not, I'm not sure. Right. Cause I know he was a little banged up last week during that, but I think he's good to go.


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[Assistant] He's not, so he's out. Sorry, sorry, he's out. But either way, with Olavi.


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[Assistant] Right? They'll have some people that can go deep if they do go man to man. Right? So that's where I worry. I worry about Carr picking apart this zone defense and making this game close. I'm gonna take the Lions to win, like I said, but I'm gonna make it 27-24 and this is a game that I look at as an upset could happen.


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[Assistant] Hey, the coaching staff was the tiebreaker for me. That's really what I went down to. I just said, because like you heard me say, I thought this is a game the Saints could pull the upset.


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[Assistant] I'm going to just go with Dan Campbell and that culture and the things they've built there that they get back on track and don't let this upset happen. Don't let one get bad game affect another and become two. So we'll see where it goes, but I do think it's a sneaky, interesting game on Sunday afternoon.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I'm not picking the Jets. I'm not.


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[Assistant] Now, it is a little scary. There are some ways you look at this and go...


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[Assistant] The Jets can win this game. We know the Falcons don't light up the scoreboard, right? We know that, right? And we know that the Jets are capable of their defense, creating some turnovers, maybe scoring on their own, maybe giving their offense a short field. And I think when you couple with that with, Hey, Desmond Ritter,


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[Assistant] He's gonna throw four or five balls every game where you're gonna go, what the?


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[Assistant] Is he looking at her doing? Right? That's, you just got to come to that. That's what it's going to be. We saw last week there was like, Whoa, it's good. It's good. It's good. Wow. He looks good. He's decisive. He knows where he's going with it today. Then it was like, Whoa, huh? What? Huh? Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. And so I worry about him.


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[Assistant] The key is what you said. Running the ball. The team has been built around their offensive line. It's the best position group of their football team. They have an advantage against a smaller Jets defense that, you know, relies on speed and chaos that way.


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[Assistant] I think they're going to be able to run the football, right? But they just need a little pass game to back the Jets off a little bit. And I do like, as you know, the Falcons defense and how can you like the Jets offense versus anybody?


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[Assistant] I just worry about ridder, strip sack, fumble, interception. If that doesn't happen, I'm taking the Falcons to win 20 to 10 on the road. Be conservative Falcons. Don't let the Jets defense win the ball game.


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[Assistant] How many times have the Jets screwed you over this year and you're still going to ride with it? Okay. All right. I like it. They did get the miracle. You picked the jets over the Eagles too. That was a good one.


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[Assistant] That was the call of the year. That was the call of the year. J-E-T-S. I just, you threw out there that I think is worth like, that I just, right, like I, listen, I understand the fan base wanting Robert Sala fired. I get that, right?


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[Assistant] You know, I'm not saying I condone it or think it's the right thing. I understand that the Joe Douglas one is the one where I'm like, what?


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[Assistant] Have you seen your team? You're like one of the most talented teams in football.


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[Assistant] It's cause of the GM. He's the one that got them all there.


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[Assistant] What are you thinking, jet fans? This is where jet fans are again, they're way too emotional and irrational that they're going to ruin the good things on their team because there's one bad thing. So they're going to ruin everything because of it.


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[Assistant] And they're going to call for one of the best things they got in the organization, which is the guy that built the roster and they're going to call for him to get fired. Like that's where I don't, I don't understand that. I don't understand. Like I said, I don't condone the Robert solid thing, but I can understand that one. Joe Douglas, what best D line in football.


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[Assistant] One of the best linebacker duos in football. One of the best secondaries in football. Uh, a superstar running back, a superstar receiver, pretty good tight ends. Yeah, the O line is the only thing you can look at that's an issue. And they got Aaron Rodgers and he got hurt and they got unlucky. That's what I don't get.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you know, going to your, your favorite football teams home stadium.


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[Assistant] Defense has been awesome. The offense is showing signs of life, right? Yeah. Cold day, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. You know, what does it get? It's going to be December here coming up, right? So it'll be December, right? I mean, yeah, nothing in that. It'll be, you know what? Yeah.


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[Assistant] I wasn't sure what Sunday, what Sunday's date was, and then I was like, oh damn, it's the last day of the month, we're at November 30th right now. But either way, the, the uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't look at it to be a conducive environment for the Arizona Cardinals to win the football game. I don't.


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[Assistant] No, the offense, as we know, I mean, it's got some dangerous acts, aspects about it.


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[Assistant] But I don't think it's anything that I can look at to go, Oh, they're going to move the ball consistently against the Pittsburgh Steelers defense all day. I don't see that. I think they got the type of guys that can contain Kyler Murray from scrambling around and making too much magic.


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[Assistant] Right? The other side of the ball. I expect them to be able to run the ball in Arizona, too. That's another thing. I mean, we did see life from the Steelers. We've seen little glimmers of life. We'll see what, you know, last week brings to this week a little bit more aggressive passing the football and all that. But this just seems like a little bit too much of a physical


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[Assistant] Cold weather type game for the Cardinals 24-14 Steelers.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, the, the Coles defense been better lately.


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[Assistant] Right? Not great, but better. Their fronts really good. That I have faith in.


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[Assistant] You know, I think it's the secondary. I worry about that a little bit here. I do, but I don't know if the Titans got the offense or the horses on that side of the ball to really, you know.


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[Assistant] Take it to the Indianapolis Colts defense. Uh, that'll be interesting to see. Now, you know, with Will Levis and his ability to throw the deep ball and all that, that can make it interesting. Definitely. You know, the other side of the ball, Titans defense.


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[Assistant] Uh, not so great as of late. Kind of falling apart, you know, in front of us as far as, you know, early in the year. We're definitely more stout against the run and playing better overall defense. And I think it's a Colts offense that hits its stride.


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[Assistant] You know, I've been joking all week about the blue wall. They got that old line going again in Indianapolis. It's one of the better ones in all of football. Shane Stikens, an awesome run game designer. You know, I know I say that a lot. And then Minsh is going to make a few plays for you, let alone their pass games creative.


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[Assistant] Right, so I'm gonna go, you know, I think the Titans, it's at home. It's a desperate effort. I do think that they can run the ball and control the clock a little bit against the Colts, but I'm still gonna go the Colts 23-20 on this one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, obviously Dolphins. Dolphins defense continues to get better, right? You got the shake up in the commander's organization with.


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[Assistant] Firing Jack Del Rio. I know they got a little extra time this week, but so do the Dolphins. That doesn't matter. I worry about the commander's defense. Yea, against this Dolphins offense. It's got everything. We know that.


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[Assistant] You know, and the commanders of course stripped of their two pass rushers on the edge. You know, that's the one area you can, you know, kinda get to Miami a little bit, is they're not


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[Assistant] The stoutest up front as far as pass protection and you can collapse the pocket a little bit against them. We've seen some of the good defenses do that to them.


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[Assistant] I don't think the commanders can do that. I don't think they're gonna have enough answers to stop this Dolphins offense. Well, I can see the commanders making a few plays on the Dolphins defense, but I think all in all,


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[Assistant] You know, the Dolphins have, have got it down. They've adjusted to Vic Fangio's scheme and have been playing really well on that side of the ball. I'm taking Dolphins 31-17 and you know, the more I talk about it, I almost think maybe I should have made it higher than that, but either way I got them covering the spread comfortably and I think they win the game comfortably.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, just, you know, not a real good football team. Either one of them, really, honestly. Right? And, you know, I, I don't know. Flow Rio, I think I like.


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[Assistant] The bucks, okay? And, you know, I do think though this game could be close. I think there could be...


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[Assistant] You know, a little bit new coach bump and energy for the Carolina Panthers that, you know, advantage to them.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe something as far as a wrinkle on the offensive side of the ball that, you know, uh, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense isn't ready for whatever.


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[Assistant] Uh, I kinda look at it that way. I don't know. And then the other thing too is I don't imagine the Bucs having a ton of success against this Panthers defense. I think this Panthers defense is pretty damn good.


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[Assistant] Right, I think they can certainly get the Bucs off the field on more than one occasion and it's a Bucs defense that's


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[Assistant] You know, not special either and you can make big plays on them, right? I've been a little disappointed with the way they've played. I think they got a little more talent than, you know, what they're showing on the football field. I'm going to take the bucks to win 17 to 14. I think the Panthers hang around and make it very close.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, both teams like, you know, the gritty.


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[Assistant] Like, low-scoring football game. I think they're both comfortable in that. Right? I, I do. Now, you know, I...


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[Assistant] I don't, like, Joe Flacco coming in or whatever, that does not sound like, you know, music to my ears.


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[Assistant] When I hear Joe Flacco, I just think, well, the, the Rams will definitely get two or three strip sacks in the game then because Joe will just sit there all day and pat the ball. I mean, right. I joked about it last year. I used to be like, uh, Q in the next five minutes of Flacco fumble in the pocket and it almost always happened. I used to joke about it in the, the viewing room all the time.


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[Assistant] So, I don't care who it is. It's Joe Vlacko. He hasn't done crap all year and now he's gonna be thrown into a pretty meaningful game in LA. I don't like the sounds of that, right? This Rams-D is good.


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[Assistant] And we know it's a Browns offense, that's, that's not very good, especially without, you know, a starting quarterback or even the backup. All right. And I think the Rams are smart enough.


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[Assistant] To find little ways, short passes, get the ball out of their hands, and they'll play a game of we're not gonna let the Browns defense beat us.


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[Assistant] I'm going with the Rams, 20 to 13 Rams win it in LA. I just can't get behind the Browns and that offense. And I think McVeigh and company will have enough answers to not let Schwartz's defense just totally take over.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is, uh, I can't wait for this game.


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[Assistant] I mean, to me, this is the, the game of games when you talk about Clash of the Titans, Clash of the, the biggest, baddest mo' foes in football going against each other.


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[Assistant] That's where I'm excited to see it. You know, it's the, it's the Eagles and the best O-line in football versus the 49ers and I think the best D-line in football. It's the 49ers O-line, which is...


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[Assistant] Top five in football versus the Eagles D-line, which is the second best D-line, only behind the Niners in football, in my opinion. And I know some people might think it's one, right? There's just so many good players across the board.


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[Assistant] Right, but I think at their best, I have the same feel as you do. When they're at their best, the 49ers are better than the Eagles this year. I honestly think the Eagles were better last year as a total football team. Maybe they're a little good.


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[Assistant] Grittier and grimier this year and winning their close games and doing that, which I do think has value. There's no doubt.


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[Assistant] I don't think the offense is good without Shane Steichen. I don't think the defense is creative without Jonathan Gannon. I still think they're finding their way there. And we've seen the Eagles defense. Hey, it's got, it's shown some cracks here as of late. Teams have been moving the ball up and down the field on them.


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, in Kansas City's, their stats and game would have looked a lot different if they had had people catch the football and they would have won that game. So that's where I worry about the Eagles on that side. And then I think the 49ers defense is phenomenal and gonna have enough answers. They're gonna be one of the few teams that won't be totally compromised.