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[Assistant] I've already gotten one somehow, um, early in the season to already have already have one, especially a guy with four years left on his contract, but Josh McDaniel's gone. Uh, dudes, who do you think is the next coach fired if we get one in the season?


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[Assistant] Like Black Monday is like one of the big, big, like busiest days of the year. If you do what we do, like, like we do emergency podcast every time somebody's fired. You know, it's like emergency podcast. Every time somebody's hired, you got to write, like it was one of the craziest days and it's so weird because it's like.


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[Assistant] Hey, if Minnesota, if Minnesota with Josh jobs, it was the playoffs and you lost to Josh jobs like that and you don't go, it's going to be some hot, hot butts hanging around. All right. Let's take a break. When we come back.


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[Assistant] Little Thursday night football. There's a scorcher between the Bears and Panthers. We'll talk about it next.


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[Assistant] All right. Pick six podcast, Thursday night football, the bears and the Panthers.


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[Assistant] I'm not going to sit here and lie and tell you that this is going to be, I think it could be better than people expect maybe, but regardless of whether Justin Fields is out there or not, um,


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[Assistant] It's weird because you're getting close to the point where like...


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[Assistant] I'll tell you what, let's just get, let's get, uh, game picks. Brian Burns probably out with a concussion, it seems like. Um, where, where do you, where do you go with this one, Deuce? What do you, how do you see it playing out? What's the line right now? Uh, what is, what is, yeah, three and a half, I believe.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's out of there, but he's definitely, his seat's getting hot. I mean, I think, I mean, I think, I think Ryan Poles will be, I think they will, I would think they will question whether or not they want to let Matt Eberforce develop a quarterback at the top of this draft.


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[Assistant] Awesome show. Great breakdown from Deuce and BMAC. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. If you're watching YouTube, smash that like button. If you are listening in pod form, hit subscribe. Give us a five star review and make sure to check out all things covered with BMAC and Pat P. Great stuff over there. Of course you can get Deuce on CBS Sports HQ and


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[Assistant] Spotlight, all kinds of stuff. Uh, and uh, we'll be, we'll be back tomorrow with our pick show. And then of course Sunday with the super fringe recap. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. See you guys later.


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[Assistant] You can't do it with eight underdogs. No one's picking eight underdogs to outright win. Not even cover, just win the game. So, it was an insane week.


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[Assistant] I love Halloween. Halloween is easily a top two holiday for me. I hate Halloween so much.


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[Assistant] Uh, but that's about it. But there is one I want to see and it's Winnie the Pooh blood and honey.


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[Assistant] Yes. Brinton was flailing like a little kid. Hey, old guys are tough. That's a known thing.


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[Assistant] Making, uh, underwear ads for Kim Kardashian. That's where he is.


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[Assistant] Not even the last two drives our, uh, our research team, uh, has another graphic where


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[Assistant] Purdy, when he is trailing in the fourth quarter, has a QB rating of 17.1, zero touchdowns, three interceptions, and a completion percentage below 40%. So, uh, you know. You just called him a frontrunner, Breach. I didn't call him a frontrunner. Wilson called him a frontrunner.


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[Assistant] I feel like the knock on him was that he's a game manager and we just kept seeing making these great throws. He's made some great throws. He's done a great job. But what happens when you get out of the game script and the game managing part? Well, that happens when you start trailing.


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[Assistant] And what has happened when the 49ers are trailing as the Purdy has struggled trying to make his own plays and that hasn't worked. So I do think that is an issue the 49ers have to worry about, especially when you play good teams.


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[Assistant] And to answer Pete's question real quick, he threw 8 interceptions in 13 games during his final season at Iowa State and during his career through


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[Assistant] 33 interceptions in 48 games. So average just under. That's alright. Yep.


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[Assistant] You know what? You know who else is not very good? The Detroit Lions who got smacked down by the Ravens. Pete, you moved the Ravens up six spots. I mean, you almost moved them to number one. Uhm, let me just ask you this. Are you overreacting to this win? Because this is a team who has lost to both the Colts and the Steelers within the past five weeks.


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[Assistant] You look at who they've played as far as being the number one scoring defense. They had CJ Stroud making his first career start. They had Dorian Thompson Robinson, uh, making his first career start and to date his only start because he was so bad.


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[Assistant] Well, that's true, but then he had Joe Burrow on the bad cap and he, Kenny Pickett and Ryan Taney with a broken ankle. I mean, the schedule was kind of falling in their favor here.


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[Assistant] On a neutral field, I'm taking the Chiefs. Same. I think Pete's got that one right.


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[Assistant] They really only scored seven points because the field goal came off a Jalen Hurts fumble and then they went three and out, didn't do anything, kicked the field goal.


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[Assistant] It is Ryan Wilson's Pittsburgh Steelers. Wilson might have gone 0 and 13 against the spread, but he did get a moral victory here, uh, with his team moving up 11 spots to number 11. As you can see, if you were watching on YouTube,


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[Assistant] Pete, here's my question for you. The Steelers are easily the most fraudulent 4-2 team in the history of the NFL.


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[Assistant] How did they jump up 11 spots after beating the 3 and 4 Rams team thanks to a meltdown by Brett Maher and a horrible spot by the official? That is enough to justify moving them up 11 spots?


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[Assistant] Yeah, they didn't get any sacks on Kurt Cousins, zero pass rush.


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[Assistant] Pete, I'll throw out a random name, uh, let's see, there's somebody who actually said on Sunday that he is interested in signing with an NFL team, so you don't have to trade for him. He is a five-time Pro Bowler who won the Super Bowl in 2020. His name isn't Dama Kunsu.


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[Assistant] Who do you think should reach out to Mr. Sue about a possible job? You just mentioned a bunch of teams that could use some help up front.


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[Assistant] Do you think the bill should look for a possible trade partner before the trade deadline if they're not able to get someone like Adama Katsou?


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[Assistant] And you know that your current QB situation is an injured Deshaun Watson who has not even been good when he's healthy, uh, or former XFL quarterback PJ Walker. Do you sniff around for a QB at the deadline so that you don't waste this Super Bowl caliber defense or do you just go forward with Deshaun and PJ?


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[Assistant] Maybe, but he keeps winning. Look, I put seven crazies in front of this question. It's a crazy question. It's crazy.


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[Assistant] Vrabel said if Tandenhall can't go that he is going to let Meek Willis and, uh, well, Levis both play. He's going to go with the old two quarterback system that has obviously worked so well.


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[Assistant] Well, I also think he looked much better in the second half because it wasn't possible to play any worse than he did in the first half.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, Wilson brought up Jerry, Judy, and Patrick Surtain. If you're the Broncos, are you having a fire sale, Pete?


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[Assistant] Yeah, go again. You were here for Brenton, who's not here.


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[Assistant] I love that Pete hates those. Alright Pete, here is your third one. Right now you have the powder blues at one, the bumblebees at five, three open slots, and your next one is the Eagles Kelly green jerseys. Three. Oh really?


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[Assistant] This is actually, I think, the most underrated jersey of all time, even though I think most people actually hate it. Uh, and that is the Seattle Seahawks Neon Green Alternate.


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[Assistant] Well, you're stuck putting that at number four, Pete. So real quick, you could redo it. The greens are worse than the bumblebees?


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[Assistant] Nah, that means Pete's top-drained jersey is the Chargers Powder Blues, followed by the Buccaneers Creamsicles, number three, Eagles Kelly Green, number four, the Seahawks Neon Green jerseys, and number five, holding up the rear, the Steelers Bzzzzz Bumblebee jerseys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like their, their Super Bowl 23, that era jersey. I do like those.


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[Assistant] They tried to simplify it with the New Jersey's now.


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[Assistant] Who knew that Pete was such a fashionista here? He is just all about the Jersey conversation.


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[Assistant] Oh, alright. Pete, what do you think of Jacksonville's mustard yellow color rush jerseys? Favorites ever? I haven't seen those. There is none. You don't remember those?


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[Assistant] This is blasphemy, I can't believe I'm listening to this.


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[Assistant] The group stage continues with Italian staples taking on Champions League debutants and what's sure to be an unrelenting battle between Celtic and Athletic Madrid on CBS Sports Network and streaming live on Paramount+.


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[Assistant] We want the big trade news overnight to discuss. Because we know you need sports all the time.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the big six podcast, CBS sports daily NFL podcast. I'm Will Brinson. All right. Sometimes daily. I guess it's daily now.


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[Assistant] It's just forced to have it after five years of saying that. I'm Wilbred Centurion by Brady Quinn and Lazy Toosable.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's been a little, it's been a little, uh, extra poofy today. I didn't really do anything to it other than just kind of like toss it to the side. I'll do a couple of frat switch for you during the show though. Don't worry.


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[Assistant] It's getting a little long. It's a little long. I'm gonna see if I can go to the Superbowl without getting it cut. We'll see.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't care what Brady thinks about my hair. Uh, I got, somebody told me, somebody, somebody gave me, uh, said I had some Bradley Cooper vibes going recently. So I'll, I'll take that.


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[Assistant] Brady's the one who called that first of all. Settle down, Chris Pratt. Uh, you're gonna need to bulk up a little bit to get the...


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[Assistant] Well, no, so EK came up, Eric Karabas came up with an idea for, uh, top, uh, top, like hottest, hottest non-coach, uh, not non-head coaching seats, for instance. And it actually may have stemmed from the, uh, the, with the retired Reverend Ann Brinson, my mother, who, uh, I've mentioned this on like several shows in a row now, but she texted me and was like,


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[Assistant] Why is the Panthers head coach calling plays? Like he's not very good at it. They were at the Panthers game on Sunday and she was like, is that common in the NFL? Um, and I went through it, did the math and like, depending on what you think about Jacksonville, cause I think it, I mean, don't we agree, press Taylor's still calling the plays in Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] I, I was, I was a little surprised too. Uhm, like, exact, so,


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[Assistant] I didn't watch a whole lot of that game just cause it was like that. Basically the Panthers got the pick six and then it was like, all right.


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[Assistant] You've got your chance here. You need to produce like 11 points on offense to win this game and.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, so like, I mean, I was going to, do we want to run through really quickly these quarterbacks? You want to go on to something else? I think it's kind of interesting. Well, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Is Frank Wright on the hot seat as far as a play caller goes, as far as being the play caller? Is he on the hot side?


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[Assistant] I'm not, I'm not, I'm not suggesting that they should. I just think it's like, I just get these questions a lot because I live here and it's like, people are like, people are like, I can't remember. Somebody was like, text me. It was like, they got to blow up this coaching staff. It was like,


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[Assistant] I just looked at Bryce Young's next-gen stats passing charts, which show, you know, I mean, it's where he threw the football. Uh, if you had to guess how many passing attempts longer than 25 yards does he have on the season?


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[Assistant] There's one attempt of 40, one attempt of like right around 40 yards. That's the only one past 30. Um, this one shows, and I mean, I don't think they're doing air yards here, but it's basically, uh, yeah. I mean, it's like one completion past 20 yards. I mean,


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[Assistant] Yeah, well no, I think one that kind of like kind of dovetails interestingly with it, like Justin Fields, is he on the hot seat as far as the long-term quarterback option for the Bears because Chicago now own for the Panthers are owned for and the Panthers are in this position where if Carolina


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[Assistant] What happens if Carolina gives the Bears the number one overall pick? Meaning, I think as we were pointing out, it's like they could have basically had, uh, the combination would be like Caleb Williams, DJ more Jalen Carter two seconds instead of Bryce Young. That would be a tough scene for Carolina.


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[Assistant] Uh, the number one pick by the way in the, in the draft for the hot seat would have been Matt Canada and the Steelers, obviously.


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[Assistant] They haven't had more than, we told, we told this to Pete on yesterday's pod, but they haven't had more than 400 yards of offense in 39 consecutive games since Matt Canada took over. And over that time span, other NFL teams have had 295 combined games with over 400 yards. That's pretty freaking.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So I mean, point being is like Matt Canada. I mean, yeah, I guess you could say he doesn't have a hot seat, but like, I mean, he didn't really just get a vote of confidence.


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[Assistant] Unfortunately, as I pointed out to you guys, three of the coaches on the coaching staff are from the 2013 NC State football team.


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[Assistant] That's the old, that's the old radio, the radio host trick where it's like if you do a solo show, like if you're like, like you have, whoever fills in for you, just make sure that they're like, like you just, you never get somebody who might like take your job, right?


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[Assistant] Oh, you only wanted to do it so that we'd be professional and the alert wouldn't go off during the show. Oh, and you look unprofessional? Is that what you're saying? Well, I don't, I mean, look.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think anybody would appreciate this head of hair. Uhm, by the way, the four, the four play color suit, the four offensive.


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[Assistant] I almost think you could like take them off. I didn't include them at first because it's like, just because it's, you know, I mean, like it would, I think it would be weird if Dan Campbell called plays, wouldn't it? He actually did it. He's done it before.


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[Assistant] So eagles, cowboys, oh, jaguars and lions. And like there's sort of jaguars.


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[Assistant] I just found out, I'm just speaking of speaking of moppy heads of hair. Uh, I needed it. I was checking. I thought you were saying it was when you were Notre Dame. So I was looking up the exact years. There's a picture on your Wikipedia page with you holding a microphone with some


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[Assistant] Harry, let's toss that picture up just so dudes can see it. It's on your Wikipedia page. Anybody can go get it.


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[Assistant] By the way, I think other hot seat, just, just for reference, if you want to talk about before we take a break, but I'll just throw them out there and then we'll be done with the conversation.


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[Assistant] We're not, we're not, we're not rooting for anybody to lose their jobs. We're just discussing if there's a chance for change coming. Uh, that's, it's the NFL. It's part of the business. Um, Jack Del Rio is the defensive coordinator for commanders. He's got mentioned by, uh, EK, who's a commander's fan. Mack Jones and Desmond Ritter as quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Zach Taylor, offensive coordinator, Taylor Swift as Travis Kelsey's girlfriend. I mean, look, hold on. It's Travis Kelsey.


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[Assistant] And, and did you know that, uh, the number one podcast in America right now, not sports podcast, number one podcast, new heights, Travis Kelsey's on every other commercial during the, during the football games.


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[Assistant] I would say that like, I would say that like, there's been more interest from, like possible, like more interest in football a little bit from people who just wouldn't normally watch football, obviously. And then I think like, I think, I think more like, I don't know how much more Taylor Swift can get, but I mean, like she's going to take all the publicity she can get. Like, do you think they're really dating?


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[Assistant] Man, uh, you can't see it if you're, if you're listening to the podcast on Spotify or Apple or wherever else you get your podcast. If you're listening there, give us a five star review. If you're watching on YouTube, youtube.com slash at NFL on CBS, you would have just caught a paramount plus ad for pet cemetery, some sort of new pet cemetery. As we learned last week, guys, the all three of us hate horror movies.


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[Assistant] Particularly Jonathan Taylor, who I drafted a lot in fantasy football. What do you think happens with Taylor, and we can get to the twist push maybe in a minute, but what do you think happens with Jonathan Taylor, Cooper Cup, upon their return here, Deuce?


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[Assistant] Calvin Johnson before, Calvin Johnson had the single biggest wide receiver fantasy season of all time. And then it was beaten by Cooper cup and now Pooka Nakua is on track for any quarterback with Calvin Johnson.


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[Assistant] I also don't understand why the Colts don't look at this as, okay, we have.


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[Assistant] Anthony Richardson, who's looking really good as a rookie, like surprisingly good at both passing and running the football on this rookie contract.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you one more thing about the AFC. I think this is an interesting sort of discussion about the playoff picture. Like with Joe Burrow being hurt and Rogers going down.


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[Assistant] Where do we think this last wild card is going to come from? Because it is like, remember we thought that it was going to be like, ah, two 10 win teams are going to miss the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Prisco was watching it and said that like on the all 22, I guess he was looking at the all 22 because today's Wednesday checks out, right? Is it? Yeah. Anyway.


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[Assistant] I think I would go Jacksonville and Houston right now.


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[Assistant] You get the, then who's the number two team in the AFC North against the number two, the Browns right now. So Browns versus Titans. Browns did beat the Titans.


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[Assistant] So you got the division winner and then it's like basically if you put the Chargers in and the division winner, it's, it's the Browns. I mean, I guess the Steelers are there too and too. They don't inspire a lot of confidence right now with their offense, but their defense is played well. Um, and then like the Raiders and the Patriots.


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[Assistant] Got a battle of two NFC teams on Thursday night. Let's take a break when we come back. We'll discuss the hot matchup between the commanders and the Bears next.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, uhm, yeaah, we, uh, we do a lot of...


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[Assistant] Look, I love football. I love all football games and I am pumped to see Justin Fields against the commander's defense. So you mentioned like two, you know, you look at the, the bears own four and the commanders fell to two and two. But I mean, like there's still like the bears. I mean, Justin Fields played awesome.


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[Assistant] Against Denver's defense for the first like stretch and then just fell apart Denver store, uh, complete that comeback. Uh, you know, how do you guys look at this game? Uh, you know, like, like, what do you, what do you see in terms of the quarterbacks here, Brady from whether it's Sam Howell and how he's playing for Washington and Justin Fields in, in Chicago.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Okay. My bad. I misheard that. Um, yeah. Howell 24, uh, DJ 22 and Fields 17, Ritter at 16. I mean, like all these quarterbacks are under fire and they hold the ball a little too long, but also, you know, getting lots of pressure. Uh, remember Ron? I mean, he got that in, so it was 2013 and he was about to be fired.


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[Assistant] And he, like he'd lost to E.J. Manuel and the Bills with like, with Cam Newton and people were like, like furious at him for not going for it. So he was like,


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[Assistant] But the Riverbird Ron thing caught on and he and his wife were like selling t-shirts to raise money for charity and so everybody kept calling him that. But he really, he's like, he's like, it's not Riverbird Ron, it's really more like analytical Ron. And he did it for like, he said that, he did it for like six months and he just completely gave up and really hasn't been that aggressive in a long time.


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[Assistant] Uh, so Deuce, the, uh, Bears have given up 38 points to the Packers, 27 to the Buccaneers, 41 to the Chiefs and 31 to the Denver Broncos. Can they stop the, uh, commanders from scoring?


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[Assistant] Uh, Jahan Dotson and Curtis Evo both already announced that they will be active for this game. All right, so let's get out of here.


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[Assistant] You would rather lay the four and a half than the five and a half, that's for sure. Um, let me just double, I'll double check for you. Looking at FanDuel right now. It is five and a half with a total of forty four and a half.


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[Assistant] I can't do it. Can't do it. All right for Brady, for dudes, I'm Brinson. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. We will see you tomorrow for the pick show. As always hit the, uh, like button on YouTube, subscribe, and don't forget to give us a five star rating wherever you get your podcasts. See ya.


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[Assistant] Well, it's not being officiated as illegal, so we just have to prepare for it. I mean, that's...


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[Assistant] I would personally like to see it eliminated, not just because they run it better than anybody, although they do run it better than anybody.


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[Assistant] But uhm, I, I don't think that's a football play. I think it's a nice rugby play. And uhm, not what we're looking for in football.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast, CBS Sports, NFL Podcast. I'm Will Brinson here with Brady Quinn and Lays Duesable. This is going to be your favorite midweek off the rails show. Uhm, but you know, Monday's kind of a big deal. Are we calling everybody? I don't think we're calling it a Brady Quinn football show. What about Brady Quinn Dues days?


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[Assistant] So we're going to get to the Aaron Rodgers injury and talk about that at length. I mean, like, I mean, it sucks. It just sucks. It sucks. It's the worst. Uh, I mean, I think it hits home. Uh, both of you guys have like, you know.


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[Assistant] Close or tangential connections to either Aaron Rodgers or the Jets. I mean, very close connections depending on how you want to look at it. Obviously you see the Jets and what's behind twos there. Uh, I mean Monday night was a bummer. It was, you know, it was, it was crazy because it was, um,


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[Assistant] Such a wild game in and of itself. And yet the injury happens before we get there though. Um, we do have to rewind to last week's show at which point, uh, Deuce noted.


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[Assistant] Uh, Brady and I should have some kind of bet for the NC State Notre Dame game. Correctly. Uh, unfortunately for me, Notre Dame was a seven and a half point favorite. I decided to make the bet who wins. Not that it mattered because Notre Dame covered pretty handily.


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[Assistant] It was like a really close game late in the third quarter and ended up with us getting our butts kicked.


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[Assistant] Our brand new $50 million scoreboard got struck by lightning. Although the school, the school reached out, they're like, they like, they told a bunch of like reporters in the press box. You're like, that, that is technically incorrect. It was, uh, due to weather concerns. It was like, that's lightning mofos. Like you got like.


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[Assistant] Um, uh, ESPN reached out and was like, can we use this? The weather, some weather channel reached out and use this. And then FS1 was like, can we use it? I was like, only if Brady Quinn does the post game show in a, in a, in a, in an NC State hat. And Brady comes in and replies to the tweet and goes, you do not have permission.


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[Assistant] And there were a bunch of people, like, who I don't think knew that Brady and I, like, I mean, our friends, and like, we do this podcast, and they're like, legend move by Brady Quinn, like, flying in. So, fast forward to today, uhm, and I lost the bet.


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[Assistant] And I said, I said, if NC State won, I, if NC, if NC, I don't remember what the bet was. Brady was wearing like a wolf pack hat or something, like on the show.


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[Assistant] Which is, I mean, really, frankly, it was gonna be a pain in the butt. This is really like a long, long con for me to get a Brady Quinn jersey. Uhm, and Brady's like, what's your address? I'm gonna mail this to you. Get this mailed to you. I was like, wow, that was really fast paying off this bet. I was like, will you sign it?


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[Assistant] I mean the injury happened like if Roger was out for the season cause there was buzz like during that, um, like during the game it was like his cat. They didn't know, they didn't know, they didn't know, but it was, it was like, I mean, Adam Schafer got on there at halftime and like speculated


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[Assistant] So yeah, I mean, I think the, but I was saying the immediate, um, projection reaction was that it went from.


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[Assistant] Uh, nine point six wins down to five down to four point nine and like a sixty percent. Oh yeah. Huge. A sixty percent chance of making the playoffs down to a four percent, five percent chance. Uh, now after the win that went up to like fifteen percent, I think just because you get that win against the bills. That's a big one.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's like, I mean, the difference is like at least three games in terms of what the expectation was like 6.9.


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[Assistant] Yeah, 9.66.9 and then like, yeah, 60% to make the playoffs down to like 12% or 15% or something like that.


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[Assistant] So, uh, we threw out Matt Ryan. We were, Pete threw out Matt Ryan yesterday on yesterday's show. And I mean, look, he makes, it makes sense, but also like dudes, I mean, watching that, like.


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[Assistant] Rogers, Rogers had three drop backs on four snaps and was pressured on and hit on all three of them, including the one where, you know, I mean, it's wet turf, you know, et cetera. Like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, like he's, he's not afraid to, he's not afraid to jump over it, but, but my point is just like, is that offensive line good enough to work with a Matt Ryan who is, you know, is Pete was trying to say throughout that Matt Ryan's really mobile, which I'm not trying to look more mobile than I am.


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[Assistant] You know, I'll tell you what, let's take a quick break and we'll come back. We'll discuss if it was Joe Flacco or the week one game that sparked Brady's charitable donations. Next.


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[Assistant] Was it the, was it the week one game? By the way, uh, for instance, there's Brady here. Was it the week one game or the week two? I feel like it was the Joe Flacker game where


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[Assistant] The Flacco, Flacco makes this insane comeback that hadn't happened in several thousand years or like several thousand games or something like that. It's like the history, it's like twice in the history of football. And Brady's like, listen, I'm sorry, Jets fans are not trying to like crap on you. I'm just saying you're not going to win that many games. I'll do this. I think it was the week two game that caused that, right?


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[Assistant] Well, it's also problematic because like people take things out of context all the time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the, the 22, the Jets in 2022 actually profiled as a 7, a 7.8 win team for the Pythagorean theorem. Uhm, I, I, but my whole, my whole larger point was like,


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[Assistant] Like I, I think it's like, you say eff it and roll with Zach Wilson. Like what if, what if he's, what if he plays, what if he steps up his play because he's been around Aaron Rodgers and he, he's like soaked in enough by osmosis to become a better quarterback and all of a sudden- By osmosis.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you, you saw like the memes out there. It was like Robert Sala, like staring into the void, like just like, like, like, like just staring off, like, oh my God, I have 16 more games of Nathaniel Hackett and Zach Wilson. I didn't sign up for this. I do. What's, what's your expectations for the jets this year? And like, like what, like,


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[Assistant] You know, it's so, I mean, I mean, if you're for Jets fans, they want to know what would like, what does a good season look like? And it can even be like five wins, but Zach Wilson looks like he knows what he's doing.


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[Assistant] If you go eight, nine, which is doable. I mean, like you again, your profile is an eight.


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[Assistant] Right. You go eight, nine with Zach Wilson after losing Aaron Rodgers four steps of the season. The only narrative that you're going to hear in the off season is what, or the, or the, like throughout the season is being, what would this team have been with Aaron Rodgers?


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[Assistant] If they, if, if like, that's actually a pretty good bet. If you can get, uh, I'll see what it is out there, but coach of the year, like.


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[Assistant] If, I mean, if they win eight or nine games after losing Aaron Rodgers four snaps in the season, he is going to get some votes for that four


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[Assistant] Salah is current. I have 14 to one. It's not great. You think it'd be lower, but I mean, I guess people are kind of expecting like, all right, if he survives a Rogers thing, um, what would you add at age 39?


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[Assistant] Let's take a quick break and then we'll come back and talk. Will Aaron Rodgers retire after the season? We'll discuss next.


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[Assistant] I'm older than that. Most people don't believe that. I know. It's weird. Uh, most people think I'm 36 is fine.


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[Assistant] I can't remember how old, I can't remember how old you guys are. I mean, you guys were younger than me, obviously. Cause I, cause I'm old. But uhm.


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[Assistant] What do you think the odds are that Aaron Rodgers has done after this year and like how Brady won? I'm curious.


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[Assistant] Like the rehab for left Achilles. So it's not, it's not your plant foot, but it's also like.


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[Assistant] You don't, you don't want to go out like that. And at the same time, man, that is a freaking long road back. I did, I did hear AJ Hawk, um, talking on the Pat McAfee show about sort of like how it's like, you got to do the rehab anyway. You know, like you, like, do you,


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[Assistant] If you're, if you're a regular dude walking down the street to your day job in like Manhattan and you rupture your Achilles, you still got to do the rehab. Like he's got to do it anyway, right?


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[Assistant] The, uh, final four years, excuse me, final five years of his career. So Tom Brady was sacked, uhm, 35 times in 2017 when he won the MVP at age 40. Final four years of his career, sacked more than 22 times just once.


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[Assistant] Got to 40, got banged up, still with the MVP, realized I can't, I just can't take these hits on my, on my body.


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[Assistant] There was actually, while we were recording this, uh, Robert Salas said, quote, I'd be shocked if this is the way he's going to go out. Um, and said he hadn't talked to talk to Roger either, but like, I mean, you, you, you know, you play for this team and it's, you know, it's like,


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't think, Mike Garofalo had a really interesting report on NFL Network after the game. He said, he was talking about how people around the Jets were like, look, he's played in Super Bowls, he played at Green Bay, uhm, we think he's going to be kind of like,


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[Assistant] Whoa, when he comes running out of this field on 9-11, you know, he's holding the flag and, and Garofalo said like, you can see the smirk on Roger's face where he's kind of like, wow. Like, I mean, like, do you think like it's sort of, I mean,


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[Assistant] I mean, those jokes were, the thing, the thing about like Twitter and social media that's so wild is like this entire jet season was absolutely ripped apart in like a split second and it took maybe, maybe five seconds for people to start just


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[Assistant] Give me, it was like no top shelf. So you're like, give me the nicest like, uh, ranch water I can get. Um, I won't like, give me a costume. Give me that Louis.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Yeah. Well, you can't go. Yeah. But like, I'll also take, uh, 42 car bombs and like all of a sudden or whatever cement mixers, fireball shots.


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[Assistant] Yeah, a ton of Jaeger bombs, which are RBVs, Pete Pritzker style.


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[Assistant] Um, RBVs. RBVs. Red Bull Vakos. That's what Pete drinks.


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[Assistant] He does an unhealthy Red Bull thing. He's too old for that. He needs to stop.


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[Assistant] That's like, that's like, that's like, uh, it's like old man vampire, like, like, like induction, like it's going to turn him into like a bloodthirsty, like always going to live.


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[Assistant] We're not going to talk about Thursday Night Football because we just don't have enough time.


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[Assistant] Do you guys want to make a pick real quick on Thursday Night Football?


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[Assistant] Well, I was gonna say, my only, my only job here, I mean, like, I'm not to cut you off dudes, but my only job is to like, get us out on time. And Brady does have to be on HQ and like, I believe Tim or Spotlight, you probably do too, right?


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[Assistant] No, no. Okay. Well, Brady's gotta be on spotlight in 10 minutes. I'll get yelled at if he's late and I don't like getting yelled at, uh, unless I, unless I absolutely have to. Um, so we're you guys.


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[Assistant] I think, I think it's maybe if Minnesota Covers is a backdoor cover, uh, so we got Viking, I got, I got Eagles, Eagles, Brady's got Eagles, Vikings in terms of straight up.


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[Assistant] This is the Pixix Podcast, and this is Sunday Night Super Friends. That's Will Brunson. That's John Breach. I'm Ryan Wilson, and this is Sunday Night Super Friends, Week 2 NFL Recap, 2023 edition. Alright, so here's the plan.


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[Assistant] Looking at you, Brandon Staley. And of course, the overreactions of some might argue fuel this podcast. Remember, give us a thumbs up if you're watching us on YouTube at NFL and CBS.


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[Assistant] I know, right? So stay tuned for Breach's hot take on Nashville and Hot Wings. But Bryson, I'll come to you. It's like a hot chicken take.


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[Assistant] And I said this on HQ, I actually feel pretty good where the, where the Patriots are, but they're 0-2. I feel a lot better where the Miami Dolphins are and Tua might be the best player in the NFL through two weeks.


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[Assistant] Let's start with the Dolphins though. Let's, let's go with the winners because we want to be pay homage to the, to the team. But then I finished with two of the best players in the NFL. I thought that would get you going.


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[Assistant] So Breacher's a fun fact and I want to get your thoughts on maybe what we learned about the Dolphins because I feel like


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[Assistant] Mike McDaniel's hitting a stride in year two, whereas the guy we're going to talk about in second Brandon Staley is moonwalking his way out of the NFL. But Bill Belichick is known for taking away your team's best player.


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[Assistant] Tyreek now in six straight games has had fewer than 100 receiving yards and it did not matter on Sunday night. So.


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[Assistant] What does that tell you about what Mike McDaniel's been able to do in a pretty short period of time?


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[Assistant] There is no better time than a huge week to win in prime time than to introduce new Pixix podcast producer, Harry Swardow.


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[Assistant] Alright Harry, let's put you on the spot here. Uh, how many games are the Dolphins winning? Twelve.


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[Assistant] So Harry, here's where, uh, here's where I gave you some bad news. Now, I'm a huge...


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[Assistant] To a supporter, I said last week on this podcast that I thought he deserved Joe Borough money.


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[Assistant] Uh, Joe Burrow deserves to a ton of our current money for being honest about it. We'll get to that in a second. But we had a bold picture show.


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[Assistant] Let's not get into it, but we can half go to the bowl prediction show. And John Breach, I'll let you break the news to Harry. What was your bowl prediction about the Miami Dolphins?


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[Assistant] I feel pretty good about the Dolphins. I'm a huge Tua supporter. Like I said, I think he deserves to borrow money.


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[Assistant] Again, the odds agree with me. He's been the best player in the NFL through two weeks.


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[Assistant] The Dolphins are the winners. I'll say quickly, I think the Patriots actually look pretty good for another two team, but that's a conversation we'll have later, uh, throughout the season. But, uh, Mack Jones.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with the Patriots, I think. You're in bad shape. I mean, as Breach knows,


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[Assistant] Last season, the Bengals started 0-2, went to the Commerce Championship game. No team in the history of the universe has ever gone 0-2 in back-to-back years and gone to the playoffs a second time. So, that's stacked against them. Alright.


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[Assistant] On to number two, so Breach, I'll finally come to you with that spectacular


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[Assistant] On air? I'll just say quickly, Kaishan Booty gets his foot down, that Eagles game is much closer, drinks a water breach, and Cole Strange tried his darndest.


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[Assistant] To get that third downconversion, or fourth downconversion. You okay?


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[Assistant] All right, on to the chargers. Breach coming back to you if you're able to breathe. If not, just give us a hand sign and we'll go to Brinson.


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[Assistant] Brandon Staley. I've been propping this dude up for going on three years now. He's killing me. Uh, Justin Herbert's not the problem. Kelly Moore's not the problem. Brandon Staley defense of mastermind appears to be the problem. Breach.


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[Assistant] So look into your crystal ball and tell me what Brandon Staley's future looks like pre-Halloween and fittingly enough, after the clown show that is Halloween and the Chargers.


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[Assistant] Because, uh, as we're learning more about our dude Harry, huge Dolphin supporter, he mentioned this in the rundown.


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[Assistant] Is Justin Herbert anti-clutch? And I was like, in the moment, I was like, I get it, because the last two drives, the last two games, Justin Herbert hasn't been up to what Tua was up to, or in the case of the Ryan Tanhill and the Titans, what they were able to, to get, uh,


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[Assistant] Down the stretch and then Nick Fulks, uh, game winning field goal in overtime is Justin Herbert, John Breach, anti-clutch.


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[Assistant] I'll ask you, Brenton, because Breach is too close to Nashville. This will be too hard to handle for him.


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[Assistant] If we do the old Winsover-Wilson trade-a-roo and you give Mike Vrabel coaching the Chargers, that team...


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[Assistant] By the way, jokes on Staley because here's the deal. You knew what Chargering was before you took the job. That team has been Chargering like no one's business.


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[Assistant] I think the kids say, uh, they have the receipts. Alright, gonna take a quick break when we come back.


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[Assistant] And poor old John Breach is going to tell us on the other side, will the bingles be okay?


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[Assistant] Alright, Johnny, be bad. The bingles have been bad.


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[Assistant] These two weeks last week, we just talked about it last year. We just talked about a moment ago. They started though into went to the commerce championship game. This looks like a different team and I don't want to panic and you're much closer to the situation that I am. Uh, I'm Steelers Lomer. You're a Bengals fan. Uh, shout out to our guy, Jim Breach. But here's the thing. Joe Burrow has been terrible in the first two games.


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[Assistant] Acl injury, appendectomy, and then the calf injury the last three years. So he has been slow starting, and, uh, he has played in his career breach, based on my Winsor & Wilson math. Three preseason snaps! Now, that plus the injuries probably has something to do with what we're seeing here, but


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[Assistant] He has struggled against the, or Lamar Jackson, as you say, has been really good against the Bengals.


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[Assistant] Where are you on this Bingles team? Are they going to be okay?


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[Assistant] Hey Briggs, let me ask you this. Before we get, just look, before we look too far down the road.


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[Assistant] Explain to me why Jamar Chase hasn't been featured more and also.


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[Assistant] That interception Joe Burrow threw at the goal line is the most un-Joe Burrow interception I've seen going back to his LSU days.


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[Assistant] That doesn't seem to me to be a function of a calf. It seems to be a function of not seeing geostone. Do you have any insight on what happened in those two situations?


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[Assistant] By the way, if you're watching us on YouTube, please take a look at my shiny dome because it is something to behold. I need some powder on that bad boy. Uh, three down.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a, that's a sad story and one that I don't feel bad about because my Steelers are terrible. Alright!


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[Assistant] Moving on to point four. Brenton, I'm coming to you. The Bills and the Chiefs will be just fine, question mark, after convincing win by the Bills over the Raiders.


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[Assistant] In Orchard Park and the Chiefs outlasted a very good Jaguars team down in Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] Are you feeling better about one team than the other? About the same with both? What do you got?


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[Assistant] Uh, let me ask Breach and then you can struggle back because you're a Jacksonville supporter. So Breach, I'll ask you two questions.


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[Assistant] Do you think that Chris Jones and Travis Kelso are important to what the Chiefs do to need to win? Number one. And number two.


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[Assistant] Do you feel better after week two about the Chiefs or the Bills?


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[Assistant] I just want to say one thing quickly, Breach and then go on. You say that, but if the inline in the Jaguars end zone was moved back five inches, they would have won by 40 points because Travis, uh, Trevor Lawrence had four touchdowns that were out by an inch and a half. So it was closer than maybe the score indicated.


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[Assistant] I'll ask you this question, Breach, and then Brent, so you can follow up with Jeff. Of course. So, Breach.


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[Assistant] I have no concerns about two playing outside the confines of the offense. My concerns with two are the injuries. And I say this as a conversation about who wins that division.


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[Assistant] My concern with Josh Allen is one that we had, what, four years ago where he threw the ball behind his head in that Texans playoff loss. Like, are we going to see that guy? Like, is it just a matter of time before he snaps or is he going to be able to control himself and play within the confines of Ken Dorsey's offense?


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[Assistant] So, you and Charlie are annoyed at one another. You both go to the bar to have a beer. Charlie tells your buddy, hey, tell Brentson this, it'll get him super fired up and he's gonna watch him explode.


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[Assistant] And my point is that, well, the other teams around the league can watch what the Jets did and perhaps try to harass Josh Allen that same way. Brent Breach seems convinced that Josh is fixed. You're convinced that he's not going to have a step back.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, absolutely. So let's go to Dallas, the Jerry Dome, the Jerry Mahal, and uh, turns out, Cowboys might be pretty good with Michael Carthy. Now, here's the thing.


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[Assistant] Especially late Zach Wilson throw interception after interception. I know he was sort of forced into doing it and it felt like early on he refused to play inside the structure of the offense and like to get out on the perimeter and try to win with his legs and just wasn't working. Garrett Wilson seemed to be frustrated at times even though he had a big touchdown catch.


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[Assistant] But Tony Robbin made this point and it made me sort of step off the ledge even though I'm not a Jets fan. He said listen.


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[Assistant] You have the pieces in place around Zach Wilson. Now you just have to find a way to get the most out of him. You have the defense, you have the playmakers, you have the running game.


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[Assistant] You can win that way. I mean, 2004, Big Ben won by just leaning on the run game and the defense. 2008, Joe Flacco, the same thing, his rookie season. And this is year two for Zach Wilson. But Breach. Aaron Rodgers says he may come back, I think.


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[Assistant] Are you taking Tony Roma's advice and rolling with Zach Wilson and trying to win with him? Are you still considering what's behind door number three, which is probably some old broken down quarterback that wouldn't stand a chance should he come to New York.


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[Assistant] You do remember that Bill Belichick quit that job by fax after 48 hours.


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[Assistant] Let's, okay, let's start with just, it doesn't matter who it is really at this point. I think Romo makes some sense. Number one, Zach Wilson's the best.


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[Assistant] Option athletically. He knows the offense better. That may or may not matter in the way he's played. I don't know if you could say he improved from last week to this week. Certainly not.


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[Assistant] We haven't seen the improvement you want to see from a top five overall pick, but Princeton, I'll ask you. Okay. So you bring in Kurt Cousins. So you bring in Tom Brady. So you bring in Matt Ryan.


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[Assistant] Those guys are getting absolutely slaughtered behind that offensive line. That's the concern. So what, where's the fix? Is that what I'm asking?


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[Assistant] They made that call last summer, but I get what you're saying. I don't disagree with what you're saying. And the other thing to keep in mind.


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[Assistant] They can't lose their first round pick now. Yeaah. And you can't trade a conditional pick, so you have to sort that out. So they have some things to concern themselves with. If you're talking about Kirk Cousins, for example, clearly you can sign Tom Brady, I think. I don't think he's still tied to the Broncos or to the Buccaneers. But I mean, I think


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[Assistant] Brinson's point is a good one, just because if this were, if he did it in May,


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[Assistant] Breach, Aaron Rodgers, Torres, Achilles. Okay, we're having a conversation.


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[Assistant] You're doing sort of what Rick Spielman had to do when Teddy Bridgewater got hurt in August. You give up the farm for Sam Bradford. But I don't know, like now two weeks in, and I think he comes in at week eight with whomever that is and man, and then you're behind the Bills and the Dolphins anyway.


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[Assistant] All right, Breach, we're at the halfway point, five down, six to go. I'll ask.


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[Assistant] Driving the Sean Payton will save Russ Wilson and the Denver Broncos bandwagon for quite some time now. Sean Payton, Russ Wilson and the Denver Broncos are 0 and 2. And uhm, I don't know if Debo or Harry wrote this in the rundown, the headline here. They almost salvaged it.


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[Assistant] Like they beat the 85 Bears, they beat the frickin' Washington Commanders. Uh, they lost the Washington.


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[Assistant] Uh, the project is off to a slower start than expected. That's it. That's the kind of way of putting it.


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[Assistant] But last year they were one of the best defenses. So I mean, did they?


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[Assistant] Just forget how to play football. Like, I'm just wondering what happened to the, I get it, but I mean, you're paying Russ Wilson top five money, or where, top 10 now, wherever he is.


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[Assistant] First two games, the Bronco coach Nathaniel Hackett was the one and one who ever made this graphic. Shout out to that person, Debo and or Harry. Sean Payton is 0 and 2.


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[Assistant] And Brenton, you sorta touched on it. Maybe the Chargers is the job that Sean Payton wanted. I don't know if that would have been much better. Breach.


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[Assistant] Russ Wilson, uh, the 18 point lead that the Broncos blew. They're, they're hanging out on him. The research department is largest blown lead in any game of his career. 17th game where he's had six plus sacks, uh, that ties Randall Cunningham for the most all time. Have you seen enough to know?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it's early. We'll see. But I mean, I don't feel, we said it earlier, the Patriots are the best 0-2 team in the AFC. We'll see if that changes in the coming weeks if any of these teams can win a game. Alright, that's not talking about 0-2 team.


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[Assistant] Let's move to a team that is not 0-2 unless you're looking in the mirror, Breach. That means they're 2-0. Alright, Brentson.


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[Assistant] Uh, but a little fun fact and then you can go on a rant about how good the 49ers are even though they're terrible at personnel decisions.


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[Assistant] No, even funner. So Breach, this is the first time in the history of the universe, going back to the Big Bang.


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[Assistant] Where the first overall pick at quarterback faced off against Mr. Irrelevant in a football game. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] So Breach, let's talk about the top of the NFC. 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys. My Lions were in the mix until they lost that game to Eugene Cyril Smith III at home in Detroit. Of the 49ers, Philly and Dallas.


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[Assistant] All 2-0, all who've won in different ways. 49ers probably look the best. Who do you like the most long term?


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[Assistant] Hold on, let me go through this real quick. Let's do this real quick. 49ers, Eagles, Cowboys, Brits don't come to you first. Rank the defenses. They're all top three defenses. Rank them.


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[Assistant] Alright, let me do one more thing real quick. Breach, uh, Brenton, excuse me, rank the quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] 49ers and Cowboys are 1 in 1A, and everyone consensus is that Eagles are in last place. Sorry Sam, sorry Debo. So, okay. So back to you.


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[Assistant] So, knowing those final tallies, uh, the 49ers are number one, Cowboys are number two, and the Eagles are a distant third. So, uh, quickly, 30 seconds or less, Brenton.


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[Assistant] The Lions lost, I still love them, but the Bucks, Falcons and Commanders are all 2 and 0. Any conversation about those teams? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Sam Howell was my QB2 breach. So that was point seven, three more to go. Let's go on to point eight breach. I'll come to you. Um, and you have between 30 seconds and seven minutes is up to you. Brenton mentioned the bears, the bears and pardon my French. They suck. And I was of the opinion that Matt Canada was the worst offensive coordinator in the NFL. Luke Getzi would like a word. I went back and watched last week's game against the Packers and there is no hope.


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[Assistant] For Justin Fields, it's not all on Justin Fields. That team is bereft of talent. Chase Claypool doesn't want, looks like he doesn't want to play football even though he had a touchdown on Sunday.


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[Assistant] They finally got DJ Moore on Sunday, which was a nice change after only two targets last week. So Breech, I'll come to you.


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[Assistant] They're gonna, it feels like the way Justin Fields has been treating, being treated.


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[Assistant] If they again have the first overall picking back to back years, it feels like.


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[Assistant] Justin Fields will be Trey Lance. Do you have that same opinion? Is there any salvation for him or this coaching staff? Tell me what you think.


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[Assistant] Right, I always get the RPs. So, a couple things.


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[Assistant] Josh Edwards' mock, as you mentioned, and actually we talked to Josh on the, with the first pick podcast. You can check that out if you want to hear the whole entire mock.


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[Assistant] Because the 2017 draft was Trubisky instead of everyone else that was available, including Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] If Patrick Holmes is on that team, Patrick Holmes is probably out of the league by now. So drafting anyone, Taylor Williams, Drake Mayer, or otherwise, does that fix it?


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[Assistant] Two more to go. Concerning Omens and Indy Brinson. This is one of the reasons they were concerned about AR5. Anthony Richardson, 64244 ran in the four fours and he treats his body like you treat your body on a Saturday night. Hit the button.


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[Assistant] But you mentioned RG3 earlier, different body types, but that's why RG3 is out of the league because he couldn't quit.


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[Assistant] Taking hits, whereas Russ, as much as we give him a hard time recently, he knows how to avoid getting hit.


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[Assistant] How do you fix that? Because Shane Stockin feels like he has AR5 dialed in much the same way he had Jalen dialed in.


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[Assistant] They're similar, like, we were as pro-day, and he is thick.


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[Assistant] C.J. was his opponent. C.J. Stroud was his opponent in this game, and C.J. looked out of sorts at times. I'm not really concerned about that because that team, Houston, isn't very good, but I think Demica Rines is a good coach. But Anthony Richardson, 13, starts beating that


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[Assistant] This guy has the makings of being someone special, but it doesn't matter if you can't play.


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[Assistant] I don't know if, uh, people, I don't know if you're near a mic or not, but it feels like Jalen Hurts was pretty good at least last year about not getting RG3'd, like he got out of bounds much more efficiently than certainly Anthony Richardson has done. You agree with that? If you're there?


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[Assistant] One more sort of philly related indie question. Do the eagles miss shang stike?


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[Assistant] So obviously something to worry about in terms of the injuries. Very excited if you're a Colts fan and.


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[Assistant] We're on to point 10. We're on to Cincinnati. That means we're on to the end of the podcast.


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[Assistant] And what better place to start than at the bottom coming into this week. The New York football giants got house 40 to nothing last week on national television. It was so bad that we quit watching it did podcast this week. They got Josh Dobbs 20, they were down 60 to nothing to start the season and somehow found a way to be the aerospace engineer, the aerodermic Cardinals, Josh Dobbs, Princeton. I'll say this. It feels like.


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[Assistant] But it was hard to figure out why the Giants weren't doing what Brian Dable told them to do last year when they were so successful with fewer playmakers.


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[Assistant] Seems like they put it all together. The first game offense no showed. The first half of this game against the Cardinals, the defense was nowhere to be found. And then it all came together.


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[Assistant] They came back for the win. I haven't seen news yet on Saquon, but he looked like a lower body injury. We'll see how that works out, fingers crossed.


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[Assistant] Oh great. So let me ask you this. Do you feel better? A wins a win. Do you feel better about the giants?


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[Assistant] Not just because they're one and one, but about the way they rallied, the way they came back, and their ability now to compete in that division.


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[Assistant] Adam Schepter confirms Will Brunson's previous report that Saquon indeed had an ankle injury and did an MRI on Monday. It's an ordinary sprain, one source.


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[Assistant] Told Schefter. So that's great news. I thought it was his knee again, his reconstructed ACL.


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[Assistant] So fantastic news there that can get him back at some point. I'm a little more bullish on the Giants. You guys are really down on them. Brian Dable solves a lot of problems. Brian Dable is a great coach.


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[Assistant] I was trying to figure out what happened over the first six quarters where that team said we're going to do exactly what Joe Judge would do for the first game and a half of football. And they finally snapped out of it.


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[Assistant] I think there's some encouraging signs. Now look, again, to Breach's point, you beat the Cardinals. Big deal. That team is trying to get Caleb Williams. They can't even do that properly. But they're not that one too. And as you know, Mike Tellman likes to say, style points don't matter. So they're one and one. They're in the mix.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's, I would say minus eight and a half. Ten. Yeaah, I wanted to say nine and a half, that sounded too red for that.


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[Assistant] No, I get it, I get it. Alright, so both of you guys think that Jets, uh, the Giants are a no-go on the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I thought I looked pretty good last year with Brian Dable, but again, he's got a source of things out. Alright, before we get out of here, I'll make this up on the spot here. Uh, John, who is your Breach VP for the week? Anything, anybody? Any mascot? Your call.


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[Assistant] It's, it's a, it's a great story. We wrote him off, he didn't write back. Alright, the Wilson MVP brought to you by Winsover Wilson.


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[Assistant] Baker Mayfield, that's all I got. 2-0, that's all you need to know. That's it! This edition of Sunday Night Super Friends is a wrap!


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[Assistant] On YouTube, I didn't film on CBS, where are we? It's your audio podcast!


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[Assistant] Alright, thanks to all you guys who hung out with us tonight. We appreciate you for Willy Bear, making up names here in the Breach Tomato. I'm Wilson, see you guys next week.


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[Assistant] I would agree. I think home field is really only applicable to about a handful, maybe less than 10 teams in the NFL. As far as like historical trends, uh, home field advantage, I'm with Emory here. I just have a tough time really weighing that.


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[Assistant] Very heavily. I kind of focus more, uh, just on the week to week matchup. And I agree kind of with Emory's outlook. That's just certainly how it applies to props, so.


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[Assistant] Sides and totals a little bit of a different story, but with props, yeaah, I'm just kind of, uh, honed in on the individual matchup.


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[Assistant] Uh, he actually had success, obviously, passing the football against that Broncos secondary, completely depleted, uh, looked good for, you know, two and a half, three quarters there, uh, before things went.


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[Assistant] Sideways for him, but I do agree. I am surprised that Justin Fields


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[Assistant] Snap. So, uh, he's at least looks to be in command of that backfield for the time being. I think it might kind of flip flop on a week to week basis, kind of a hot hand situation.


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[Assistant] There, as far as the commanders are concerned, seven points is a lot for this football team in my opinion. I know it's against the Bears. I just subscribe to the theory. It's a lot easier to play without expectations than it is with expectations. Therefore, meaning, you know, when they're a seven point dog or eight point dog to the Eagles, a little bit easier to show up and


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[Assistant] Surprise people that it is when you're a seven point favorite against a Bears team. So as bad as the Bears have looked, actually, I kind of like them in this spot. I just think seven points is too much for this commander's team to be favored.


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[Assistant] One thing I want to touch on really quickly, but very encouraged by Terry McClure. And I believe he's over that early season turf toe that seemed to be hobbling a bit. It looks to be a hundred percent.


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[Assistant] Something I'm gonna definitely target against this bear secondary, uh, in this game probably as well.


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[Assistant] I think the loss of Trudevius White could be a big one as far as like fantasy, uh, you know, just as far as the bills as the matchups are concerned, very good secondary, losing a corner as good as Trudevius White I think will be


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[Assistant] Uh, they can play with a lead, they can play from behind, short area passing game, they can pass downfield. So I just think this Bears offense is very, very versatile. Uh, James Cook, however, only played 23 of 58 offensive snaps. He seemed to have a stranglehold on Buffalo's backfield, something to look out for here, especially in this matchup against the Jags.


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[Assistant] I like those liens quite a bit, Katie. Yeah, I just think the Falcons got pretty badly exposed. Uh, they just cannot sustain drives whatsoever. As a result, I think the Texans are going to be on the field a ton, and I think their defense is going to really suffer as a result. This could be Desmond Ritter's last start, possibly this season.


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[Assistant] Looks like he could be bench, had a terrible game, four sacks, two interceptions, led to just seven points, uh, yesterday. That is unacceptable when you have.


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[Assistant] yards to touchdowns prior to week two, he hadn't had 100 yard receiving game and then he went seven for 146 and then this monster performance there yesterday. Damien Pierce finally had a good game. This Texans offense is for real. They are legit ball and super impressed with them and going forward. I think they're going to beat Atlanta this week too.


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[Assistant] Yep, Katie's called it a few times. Certainly a good look, I just think, when he's on the field. Uh, getting that close to even odds is definitely a good look. Just really impressed with his poise. Even down, what was it, 23-0? Still, uh, came back in that game to tie it, force overtime. Really impressed with Anthony Richardson. Uh, just wanna bring up Derek Henry, though. Uh,


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[Assistant] I turned the corner on some big runs on that big touchdown run. Was very impressed with Derrick Henry. I really think it's been a result of that offensive line. Also put to bed the Tajay Spears, uh, hype train.


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[Assistant] I think Taji Spears is gonna play if the team is trailing, but I think with a lead, it's still gonna be the all Derrick Henry show. And it just reminds me of that great Sopranos quote, I guess it's from The Godfather, just when I thought they were out. He pulls me back in.


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[Assistant] Certainly is playing as well as any running back in the NFL right now, and he's definitely earning more touches and more snaps, but very, very impressive from him even in that loss.


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[Assistant] I would agree with Emory regarding the Baltimore Ravens tending to play down to their level of competition. I've just been really impressed with Lamar Jackson. I know historically obviously struggling against Pittsburgh, but to me he's been great this year. Yeah. And I think they've overcome so many injuries on both sides of the football for Baltimore. I think they've been as injured as almost any team.


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[Assistant] In the league, he looks very good to me. They're favored to win the division. I think he's going to be a top three MVP candidate as well. So yeah, I've been looking at the futures market as far as Lamar's concerned right now. I like his chances in the MVP race.


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[Assistant] Only this game could produce a player that could somehow top a 13 reception for 33 yards.


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[Assistant] That's what, uh, Alvin Kamara posted yesterday with Derek Carr, obviously throwing him the football. So talk about inefficiency, I believe.


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[Assistant] Car at one point had 17, he was 17 for 25 with 75 passing yards. Had a big completion at the end of the game to go over the century mark. But yea, 17 for 25 for 75 passing yards.


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[Assistant] Yeah, just to kind of piggyback on Emory's point, it's funny with Zach Taylor, the knock on him originally was that he was running the football way too much and they just needed to kind of let


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[Assistant] Bengals have been also, uh, run blocking a lot better than their pass protection as well.


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[Assistant] It would benefit them to protect Burrow and to, uh, kind of focus on what's working for them, which has been Joe Mixon. But I have just been so impressed with Josh Jobs, with this Cardinals team. He saw the rookie Michael Wilson, 70 yards, a pair of touchdowns, uh, Hollywood Browns balling out as well. I just think this, the wrong team here is favored based on, you know,


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[Assistant] I like the over here as well, Brinson, and I think Cooper Cup is expected to practice this week and potentially play in week five. So yeah, certainly good news for the Rams and their passing attack. The Eagles have a very stout


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I think they're gonna score a lot of points. We saw that with the commanders. They had a great, uh, they had a great game plan courtesy of the enemy getting rid of the ball very quickly. Uh, so yeah, I think the Rams can certainly score against this team. I think the over is a really good look as well.


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[Assistant] Uh, I'm all aboard the Raishi Rice hype train. I think he's gonna end up being, uh, Patrick Mahomes' favorite weapon besides Travis Kelce, obviously. As the season progresses, I think he's gonna end up starting


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[Assistant] Running a ton of routes out of the slot. That's where Sky Moore has been primarily operating. He's been completely ineffective. I think maybe even this week we'll see, uh, Reishi Rice out snap.


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[Assistant] Certainly out produced, which he's done all season long, Skymore. So that's the one I've got my eye on. I really like a lot.


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[Assistant] I've been impressed with Dallas' secondary and tertiary option. Michael Gallups strung together a couple of good games. He kind of looked a little bit dead in the water there. And I was also curious why Dalton Schultz wasn't re-signed to the Cowboys in the offseason, but now I understand after watching Jake Ferguson play.


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[Assistant] I think that Dallas has a very solid tight end in him. He's someone I look to continue. Dak really loves, uh, his tight end as a security blanket. So I think their connection is going to continue to grow. Someone I have my eye on for props, maybe not against the 49ers because they defend tight ends exceptionally well, but definitely going forward.


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[Assistant] Right. When you look at weather combined with these dudes playing a full 60 minute game at a hundred percent where you really have to go, you can't fake live in practice is one of the hardest things to do. No matter how much you try to simulate and preseason is not really a hundred percent, especially for those guys. So.


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[Assistant] You're going to see this every year in week one. I don't know how many times I've said this, that week one is the extension of the preseason. So expect numbers to be low, unders, and I really don't buy into the homo in a way you talk to someone that only won nine games.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And I mean, to be completely honest, we saw, we rarely see Pete Carroll get our coach.


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[Assistant] He got out coached by Sean McVean in that second half, like totally.


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[Assistant] Drawing from reference, I remember my sophomore year, we played Jacksonville State, and at the time Jacksonville State was still a FCS, or one double as you call it.


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[Assistant] They came out there with the fattest quarterback I've ever seen. The fattest running back I've ever seen. It was raining and we got drummed. It was like bro.


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[Assistant] None of this makes sense and it started from the opening snap to the end of the game. It was like, what is happening?


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[Assistant] That's exactly what happened with the giant snap. Once stuff started rolling downhill.


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[Assistant] I say throw it down, we'll just go and do it now. Well listen, this, this is something, this is an interesting game.


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[Assistant] And we're gonna look at it from all three sides. We're gonna look at it from a player side.


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[Assistant] So we know strength comes from up top. Power comes from below. So when your power is directly tied to your glutes, your hamstrings, and your quads, anything


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[Assistant] Flukey with that, you're not going to be as powerful. You're going to be strong. So let's bring up the Sky Report Billy. Andrew Thomas. Questioned with his, uh,


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[Assistant] His hamstring, right? So let me take this hat off the player hat. So you want to go into a coach and be like, Hey coach, um, I may not be able to have be as twitchy as I'm usually.


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[Assistant] So I'm going to try to overcompensate and try to guess a little bit. So put my scouting hat on right now. I'm a scout.


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[Assistant] Andrew Thomas was my number one tackle prospect in the draft class. And the reason why, tremendous athlete, big bouncing bear, good footwork, had the outstanding, uh, protein and tested well at Georgia. So when your athleticism, I guess Billy can't pull it up. I guess your athleticism is your, uh, your strong suit. You're facing a guy.


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[Assistant] Arizona Cardinals, who's my number one five technique. And the reason why we scout five techniques is because they can play on the outside. They can play also on the inside. They're good with their hands. They're shocked. They can walk you back. That's going to force you to trigger those hamstrings. And if you're having a little bit of an issue with a hamstring, even if you're 75%, the other guys at a hundred, you're going to give up something, right? So now,


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[Assistant] You focus on, if I'm the Cardinals, I'ma put Cam Thomas over a guy like Andrew Thomas because I like that power versus, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Shaky hamstring. Now we flip over to the other side. You got Evan Neil, a right tackle. Pull up that scouting report. One thing I liked about Evan Neil is the fact that he is someone that has great brute strength, but we've seen in the last two years, he struggled with


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[Assistant] So who's twitchy on that team? Zaven Collins. I gave him all the scout reports, so these are supposed to pop up as we talk. So I'm just running through it. Zaven Collins is twitchy, was my number one outside linebacker in that draft class. And when you look at Zaven Collins going up against a guy that struggles versus Twitch, that's a great matchup. Now we go to the outside.


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[Assistant] We love the fact that Wink Martell will be in your face and also, uh, press you constantly. So who's the matchup out there? Josh Dobbs.


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[Assistant] We know he's gonna turn and run anytime that happens. So scouting reports matter. So we take this off and put my coaching hat on. So now if I'm, if I'm Brian, if I'm, uh, the Cardinals coach Gannon, what's gonna happen?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna put my best guy, my strongest guy on Andrew Thomas. I'm gonna put my twitchiest guy on.


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[Assistant] Um, Evan Neil and was, we saw last week, we saw them have this past Monday or Sunday night, them have communication issues and trying to pick up stunts and twists. Now Daniel Jones was already skittish in the pocket. It's going to be even more skittish because of this matchup. And if you are want to beat Wink Martindale, have a mobile quarterback.


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[Assistant] My Josh Dobbs got a report compared him a little bit to Andy Dalton. You know, this is someone that is very mobile, very apt to kick, to pick up those cheap.


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[Assistant] Uh, that has issues in, in, uh, pocket presses in Daniel Jones. So you isolate Neil, you make Andrew Thomas show his hamstrings are correct.


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[Assistant] If you find that seven man, take the Cardinals and run to the bank because this defensive matchup versus the giants who still only have.


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[Assistant] Uh, if we look at what we saw versus the Chiefs, Jared Goff was still kinda Jared Goffish, right? So if you're Seattle, are you kinda turning up the pressure on Jared Goff?


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[Assistant] The benefit for Seattle, they don't have a tutu at what is going to fly past you.


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[Assistant] And open field coverage. They don't have someone of that.


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[Assistant] So that should be a better game defensively. The problem for Seattle.


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[Assistant] Is they're going to face a defensive line as probably a little bit better collectively than what they faced in the Rams. So those tackles will be put to the test with Aiden Hutchinson, with Kaminsky who also had a sack. We may see Isaiah Buggs played this week.


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[Assistant] Uh, so all of that could be a cascade of problems for Seattle's offensive line. We'll see how this works out for them.


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[Assistant] I think the best way to help out a banged up offensive line is to run the football. We saw the Chiefs have success running the football, but they got away from it. They got too cute and we'll see if Isaiah Buggs plays. If he doesn't play, then this is not going to be a five and a half point spread. We're going to see Seattle try to shrink this game, lean on their run game. So I'm willing to take Seattle plus five and a half against Detroit.


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[Assistant] I'm looking at this kid right here, Research Flatter, cause I saw him in the comments last week. Oh, gotcha, gotcha. And the cool part is, when I'm right, I want to see a dumbass back in this thing once again. Right? So here's the thing. We saw a team in Indie play really well, right?


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[Assistant] Against Jacksonville, who everyone thinks will win the division. They actually had a lead in that game and think about this. They had a lead in the game.


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[Assistant] All of us have running back, like imagine this with a very good running back, not even Jonathan Taylor level, just a good running back, right? I think that's going to be the key. And also I think coaching got Indianapolis.


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[Assistant] Shorter to 4,000 marker, but got it anyway. Uhm, after contact.


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[Assistant] I'm fine with it. I think he'll get better at his offense. What was impressive, and this was the underrated part that people didn't, you know, bring up when I was bringing up my point. Look how good that defense looked.


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[Assistant] They really shut down that run game of Indy, uh, of Jacksonville. They got after, uh,


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[Assistant] So this defense is actually pretty doggone good. They're, they're able to play ball control and if coach Steichen can get out of his own way, dabbling with the analytics, wanting to go for it on every fourth down and kick the field goal and punt the ball sometime, you might pull out some of these games and we've seen this last year or two years ago with


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Eagles head coach and, uh, how he was doing all of that. Then by mid season, he kind of got his wits about. I was like, let me just play good winning football. We saw them get into the playoffs. I feel like this is the same thing with Indy. I'm actually encouraged by what that offense was able to do with a rookie quarterback.


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[Assistant] I just want to jump right in. Did anybody see the Tennessee Titans play yesterday too?


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[Assistant] It's going to be a rough day and we still have to figure out if this team can stop the run. Did they make those necessary improvements? So playing against a team on a short week where we know run game and defense pressure is going to be key. I still worry about the Vikings in this spot. I think the Eagles can win by double digits.


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[Assistant] Uh, here's the unique part of this game. You gotta, uh, first of all, the Saints Panthers game, you got Bible Belt Cousins in Derrick Hart. He fools you, he's tricky, but when you think about this game here,


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[Assistant] And you kind of have to look at that game against the Bengals and realize.


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[Assistant] That weather really affected everything in that ball game, but some things you can extrapolate, like the bronze run game.


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[Assistant] In the Browns defensive front. Now you look at what San Francisco was able to do, uh, Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] In football, everything around the point of attack, whether it's running the football, blocking up front, pass protection, rushing the passer, everyone's responsible for a gap.


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[Assistant] And when you watch that game, it looked like the Steelers were a gap short against San Francisco. Go back and look at that 60 something yard.


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[Assistant] Touchdown run for Christian McCaffrey. Where was the gap?


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[Assistant] The Seagap backer. Where was that guy in the alley? Where was that guy that was supposed to protect the outside? There was no one there. So he had free reign to the outside and outran everybody to the end zone. And we're already a quarter of a way. I'm cashing his over on his rushing total prop. Thanks to the Pittsburgh Steeler. Uh, he had a 150 in that game in this.


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[Assistant] So he's, he's, you know, when you look at Nick Chubb, and here's the thing, you expect coaching to fix up.


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[Assistant] That's gonna be the adjustment we'll see them make. The problem now this week is that you face an athletic quarterback in the Sean Watson coming on the outside. So now you have to look at, okay, do we overset to the front side, try to stop Nick Chubb on that outside zone or do we keep that backside defender at bay?


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[Assistant] And his ability to throw the football. Look at where Brock Purdy has success. Uhm, with guys running wide open, it was at the intermediate level of the field. You look at that game last week against the Bengals.


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[Assistant] You had a couple of times where there was a lot of meat left on the bones from these running backs. It just couldn't get that extra yard or two.


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[Assistant] And so it wouldn't surprise me, and I said this before, if they're in play for a Kareem Hunt or a Leonard Fournette, someone has to be able to get those yards that, that are there to be gotten, uh, cause the passing game was clicking. They were, they were in tune, but at some point in time,


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[Assistant] You know, the pass with a passing game, three things can happen. It could be a completion, incompletion or turnover. So you, you plan the odds every time you throw a football.


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[Assistant] With a run game, you have to be able to lean on that. So if they had nothing to lean on, that kind of favors Washington in this game in terms of their defense. But I expect the Broncos defense to be a lot better. I think that game changed against the Raiders with that hit Kareem Jackson, which was a legal hit.


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[Assistant] Right, and so now you react to the reaction and you throw the flag. That changed the complexity of the game. And so Jimmy G was also getting the ball out of his hands quickly. He did take some shots, but he got the ball out. You hope that Howell is able to do that, but also he has the element of the athletic part where he can get out of dodge and get, you know, take off.


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[Assistant] Yeah, absolutely. Surreal is the perfect word because remember this game started with Aaron Rogers running out of the locker room with the American flag running out onto the field. And look, I have not seen a Jets crowd


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[Assistant] Like this at MetLife Stadium since I've been working at CBS. So over 10 years where you've just seen a crowd that was insane, that bonkers, that ecstatic, everyone in that stadium was fired up to see Aaron Rodgers play. And once he went down.


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[Assistant] It was a little confusing because he went down, then he stood up for about five seconds, then realized like, I think something's wrong. And then sat back down and then you kind of saw the crowd realize what was happening.


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[Assistant] And then you have near silence and hear 80,000 people just go silent like that. That was the surreal part. That was, oh my God, this looks like something serious. And like you said, Brenton, it happened on the fourth snap.


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[Assistant] Probably some people even got in their seat and, you know, if this is, if he's out for any extended period of time, you really feel like the jet season went from high hopes, we're suitable contenders to, uh, now we're battling the Cardinals for the top pick in the draft.


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[Assistant] Well, and real quick, keep in mind though that when he was in the blue tent and after he left the blue tent, he had not been rolled out of the game at that point. Correct. So that left that kind of intriguing, maybe it's not as bad as it looked just because, hey, look, the doctors looked at him and they still said he was questionable. And so then he goes onto the golf cart into.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, absolutely, and I think you hit the nail on the head with mentioning the high ankle sprain or the achilles. I mean, those are your probably best case scenario, worst case scenario where, uh, you're gonna miss a few weeks in the best case scenario, worst case scenario, you're out for the season. So that is, uh, just, just the worst.


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[Assistant] If you would ask the Jets fan the worst possible thing that could have happened at this game, this is it. I mean, you can't have, this is, this is the whole off season. That's all anyone talked about was Aaron Rodgers. It wasn't Jets fans. It was media. It was everyone. It was, this is the guy that's going to get to the Jets and the playoffs for the first time since 2010. This is the team that has the longest drought without a playoff appearance.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it absolutely is. That was the concern, the major concern of when people are talking about, hey, can this team win a Super Bowl? It was, well, if Aaron Rodgers and his 39 year old body could survive behind this offensive line, which struggled last year and is


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[Assistant] It wasn't expected to be much better this year, and we kind of saw that. I mean, yes, you know, Rodgers was only on the field for four plays behind them, but he was pressured on almost every single one of the plays except for the first down where he handed off to Breece Hall for 26 yards. In other words, it wasn't pressure, it was a run play.


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[Assistant] This team might struggle a little bit, at least out of the gate when you look at, hey, they're facing the Bills in week one, potentially would have been facing the Cowboys in week two. That's what Rodgers and the offensive line would have been looking at. So yeah, the offensive line was absolutely a weak link and you know, they haven't looked great, but you know, offensive lines can gel throughout the season.


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[Assistant] Sometimes they get hot. We saw it. The Bengals last year struggled offensive line the first four or five games and then just no one could get through them, uh, later in the season. So what happens? But yeah, definitely that was an issue.


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[Assistant] And by the way, we're recording this during the fourth quarter where the Jets are in the middle of a wild comeback. Uh, you know, it's 13 all right now, so we don't know who's going to win, but obviously,


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[Assistant] The projection there's 5.8 wins, and Zach Wilson's picking up one-sixth of those wins against the Bills. And that's the kind of thing that I'm sure Robert Solow went in there half-time and said,


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[Assistant] Hey, look guys, I know Aaron Rodgers is out. I know that we all thought that guy could lead us to a Super Bowl, but we still have a Super Bowl caliber defense and we still have a lot of good skill players here and there is no reason we can't go out and at least beat the Buffalo Bills and we can reassess after that. And that's what it feels like. I mean, Zach Wilson hasn't looked horrible and it's not like Josh Allen has. Yeah, Josh Allen has. That's the crazy thing. And so,


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[Assistant] I do think that maybe, look, the Jets won seven games last year with Zach Wilson as their quarterback, with Joe Flacco as their quarterback, with Mike White as their quarterback, and I don't think there's any reason they can't get at least seven wins again, especially if they win week one. So I do think that the Zach Wilson projection is probably just an incy bit low for me.


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[Assistant] Hey, I'd like to apologize to Steven Oh and the guys at Sportsline now that I'm looking at this schedule. 5.8 wins makes a lot more sense even if they win tonight because I mean poor Zach Wilson going up against the Cowboys defense which obliterated


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[Assistant] Daniel Jones in the same MetLife Stadium Sunday night. Then you have to go against Bill Belichick, who you have not been good against if you're Zach Wilson. Then you somehow have to manage to win a shootout against the Chiefs or hope your defense can hold them 13 points on a Sunday night game. And then who knows what the Broncos, but the Broncos, you know, have had a Denver in mile high early in the season. Like,


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[Assistant] And you don't have Aaron Rodgers. You think your team's going to be bad. And so I guess the silver lining for the Packers, you're thinking, well, if they're bad, the second round pick will be high. Maybe we'll be picking 33, 34, 35 close.


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[Assistant] To the back end of the first round. Uh, but you know, I don't think the Packers are even thinking about this right now because they're thinking, man, you know, no one wants this.


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[Assistant] Right, so you're just pointing out that the trade had a conditional, uh, detail that Rodgers had to play a certain amount of snaps and that's not gonna happen if it's a snap.


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[Assistant] Right, and you know the one thing I will say real quick, and obviously by the time people listen to this on Tuesday, you could very well know what the Roger's injury diagnosis is, uh, but if he is out an extended period of time, I don't know that the Jets have many options if they want to go outside and get a quarterback, because look, they are all in.