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[Assistant] If not, it's really interesting that Lamar, like one of these two sides capitulated the day of the draft, which is really fascinating because it felt like the Ravens were going to have to add one more player in this draft breach in order to convince Lamar to sign. And also apparently.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it sure does. And it allows you, I think, you know, depending on what you want to do with this Todd Monkin offense that they're running, you know, he comes from Georgia, you know, like.


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[Assistant] If you, depending on what you do in the draft, I mean, if you think you need defense, if you think you need cornerback help, you don't have to go get.


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[Assistant] A wide receiver just to capitulate to Lamar Jackson, just to make Lamar Jackson happy. And you can go say that we need a quarterback and Lamar, like, are you, you know, we signed you to a contract. You just signed the deal. It's done.


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[Assistant] There's no, well, you said you were gonna draft a wide receiver and they still might. Like I haven't taken Quinton Johnson in my latest, my final mock draft.


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[Assistant] Um, I would have not had them taking a wide receiver if I'd known that Lamar Jackson was going to sign on the night of the draft. Uh, I thought that they needed a little bit more to push them over the edge. Uh, clearly that wasn't the case. You really wonder just what happened, but yeah, breach. I mean, to your point, like they can now do basically anything they want in the draft. Did they need a defensive end? Go get a defensive end.


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[Assistant] Like, and, and that's better for the team as a whole. It's better for Lamar as a whole. It's not, you just have to draft the best wide receiver out there just because you need a wide receiver. And don't get me wrong, Zay Flowers. Actually, I better have him take Zay Flowers in the, in the draft because of like what he would do in that sort of offense. And again, they still might do it or maybe have the Chiefs trading them. I can't remember. They haven't taken a wide receiver. They still might.


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[Assistant] Why do we have to do all this? And I realized he didn't have an agent that made it more difficult, but eventually he's just like, I mean, you know, I guess I'll take the $188 million.


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[Assistant] Which yeah, you should take that. And I guess he did get the Ravens up higher. Let's see what the, I mean, 185 million fully guaranteed per Justina Anderson. But you know, let's see what the contractor like, is this a three year deal?


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[Assistant] Any, any five year deal in the NFL is generally speaking a three year deal and a three year deal in the NFL is generally speaking a one year deal. The question is, is this a true five year deal?


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[Assistant] Or is it like fully guaranteed 185 million over three years? Because that would be really like the Ravens can cut him or you know, guarantee for injury or whatever it is. And you're talking about a quarterback. It's more than likely that he's going to, he's going to, you know,


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[Assistant] He's going to see the full extent of that cash with Amar. Maybe it's a little different just because of how he plays the position. If he's banged up, he's still so, so young. To me, this is, it's, it's just bizarre that it like got done the night of the draft. It took Odell Beckham to push it over the line and.


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[Assistant] You can do what's best for the team. It might not end up being what's best for Lamar and his personal gain, but guess what? He just got his personal gain in the terms of $185 million. So he's here to help the team win and he can do that depending on what happens in the draft.


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[Assistant] Uhm, wow, Ravens plus 250 to win the, and this is what we went back to remember when we did the AFC North win totals and the AFC North bets and all that. It's like, if you thought Lamar was going to sign, like this is actually the actionable item. Plus 250 with Lamar in the fold, I think is a, is pretty good value. Uhm, now at this point, I would rather take the bingos at plus 130.


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[Assistant] Uh, then I, then I would, then I would take the, the, the Ravens at plus 250, I think. But I, I agree with Breach. I don't think it is like, I think, I mean.


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[Assistant] I think the, the Bengals are still and should still be the favorite to win the division. They've won two straight, a lot of continuity, signed Orlando Brown this off season, but Baltimore brings back Lamar, has a new offensive coordinator who's had great success in the run and deep shot stuff at Georgia, you know, basically with like NFL personnel across the board there too.


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[Assistant] You have plenty of talent on this team. Odell Beckham, you know, in.


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[Assistant] And, you know, it would be interesting to see how they approach this too, because


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[Assistant] I don't think the Ravens have been too hyper aggressive about running Lamar.


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[Assistant] Or like usually, like, I don't think like just cause you're on a rookie deal and you know, cheaper, they haven't been like, ah, screw it. Let's just run the barn to the ground. You know what I mean? Like they turned them into an unanimous MVP. But when you, you know,


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[Assistant] Alright, let's just, I mean, I guess I'm gonna try and do a breach here. You can do a decent analogy. Uh, over eight and a half minus one sixty. I would lay, I would lay the minus one sixty. That's a bunch of juice right now. Uh, but they,


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[Assistant] One of the things, this draft night, you only got so many people working the trading for, working this and working these, the, the win total section here. And what's happened is instead of moving this up to nine and a half, which is where it will go, which you may have just said.


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[Assistant] They said a lot of these at eight. What's the one right above the Ravens? Just you do my scrolling up just to touch Billy.


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[Assistant] I mean, they just don't, yeaah, I mean, maybe you're right. Maybe you're right, Breach. I don't know. They, they don't want to move the numbers. They don't want to move these draft slots. They, uhm, they don't want to move like.


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[Assistant] They don't want to move these numbers if they can help it, but I mean, I don't think we're going to leave it like we're April right now. It's not going to come August and it's over eight and a half minus 225. That would be kind of bizarre. Uh, so I would bet that over eight and a half minus 160 right now. That to me is juice worth laying knowing that Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Is a very good football team and very capable of winning nine games, but they could have a down year ago, nine and eight. I mean, you know, that would like that's, I mean, didn't they do that last year?


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[Assistant] I mean, the, the, the upside, like you could get the eight and a half by Chris, by like, thanks. I mean, and, and the reality is with a guy like John Harbaugh, you have a really high floor. They've improved the defense. They got another first round pick coming in. Um, I like that over a whole lot. If I'm, if I'm putting, if I'm putting down.


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[Assistant] Yeah, a little bit. I mean, are you, you know, will you be worried in a month or so when the Bengals give a contract to a guy who suffered a torn ACL and a random appendicitis situation?


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[Assistant] Well, it's fitting that it's happening on the night that the Panthers are drafting Bryce Young first overall because that is like the biggest concern about Bryce Young going first overall. You see, yeah, I mean, of course, I think you always, I always have concerns giving any court, you know, giving anybody a massive contract like that. You are, but Lamar's a special player. He's still young. Um, and I'll tell you what,


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[Assistant] This just solidifies how friggin hard it's going to be to get out of the AFC. Like you're talking.


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[Assistant] We wrote down this list. I mean, we got Aaron Rogers just joined, Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] No, he is not Sam Bradford. Uh, Patrick Mahomes, we have Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] We have, um, uh, Joe Burrow. Yes. You know, we got, uh, who else we got? I remember missing. I just, Sam Bradford, they threw me off.


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[Assistant] That cabal of the cabal of billionaires known as NFL owners who successfully walked Lamar Jackson right back off that the Sean Watson fully guaranteed contract ledge.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, that's just sort of how I wouldn't be surprised at all if the, actually I take that back. I think what we could see from the bingles and chargers given that, uh, this is a good call from John Markle in the chat. The, the Eagles won because they got, and by the way, um, I'm not sure if


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[Assistant] This is changed as of today, but as of two days ago, when Tom to Lesko was doing his pre draft conference, it was asked about the jail in her steel and how it affected Justin Herbert.


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[Assistant] That's a perfect time to sneak that in there if Hertz ended up not getting a ton of guaranteed money. But to the point about, um, it's a great point, John Markle there, but on the


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[Assistant] Bingo is in the Chargers. I could see a situation because of the way the sort of the financial structure of those two ownership groups and they're cheap and poor, uh, relative to other billionaires. I would say no offense breach. I would say that you could see a situation where we hear Joe burrow or Justin Herbert's agent announced the most


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[Assistant] The biggest contract in NFL history, and it's like biggest by average annual value, even though maybe the fully guaranteed number is not in there with both sides knowing that


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[Assistant] Like the way they'll structure, um, when Justin Herbert or Joe Burrows salary becomes fully guaranteed will be such that there's just no way for them to get out from under it. It would be like so, or it would be like right after the Super Bowl, right? Where it'll, it'll kick in before they can even really think about making a decision or something like that. I wouldn't be surprised by that at all.


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[Assistant] Hello everybody. Welcome to the Pick 6 podcast. Katie Mox here with John Breach filling in for Brinton today. We always love when that happens. This is our all 32 series, the series where we catch you up with insiders to give you the need to know information on every NFL team. Today we're diving into the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with team reporter for the Bucs, Casey Phillips. Casey, thank you so much for joining us. How you doing? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.


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[Assistant] Before we get in, Breach, uhm, before we get into the Tampa Buccaneers, I, I will say as I was researching for this, uhm, Casey, I did see that you formerly worked at Walt Disney World. I am a Disney adult, so I'd like to know more information about this.


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[Assistant] That sounds fun. Alright, let's talk Tampa Bay Buccaneers here. And I think, you know, it would be remiss not to start with Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] But, oh, I mean, what is it like around the organization? It was such a whirlwind for the last couple years. Tom Brady comes, you get a Super Bowl, you know, you're kind of getting back there. You at least won the division last year. What are the vibes, uhm, in the post Tom Brady era?


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[Assistant] Well, and it's a division that still feels pretty wide open. When looking at the coaching staff, there has been a lot of turnover. Usually when that happens, the head coach is under some kind of pressure for the upcoming season. Now, he should get some leeway here given the transition from the Tom Brady era. However,


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[Assistant] How hot would you say this seat is for uh, bulls right now?


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[Assistant] Okay, and talking about some of these, um, offensive weapons for, uh, either Baker Mayfield or Trask. We'll see how that works out. You know, there's been some kind of rumors and stuff swirling around Mike Evans. Could we see him get traded?


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[Assistant] Alright, we're gonna take a quick break here. We talked about the O line. We're going to discuss the D line when we come back. Has been a strength for Tampa over the last few seasons, but it looks a little different heading into camp. You're watching Pick 6. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Alright, Casey, uh, in looking at this D-line again, something that has been a strength for Tampa for a long time, looks a little bit different heading into camp this year. You got no William Goldstone, no Akeem Hicks, you drafted, uh,


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[Assistant] The Saints have Derek Carr now at quarterback Falcons second year with Desmond Ritter and the Panthers of course have Bryce Young.


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[Assistant] How competitive can the Bucks be and do you see them potentially winning the division again?


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[Assistant] Alright, a lot of battles going on in training camp will be very exciting to see. Thank you so much to Casey Phillips. Stay tuned.


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[Assistant] For more All 32 with daily drops in your podcast feed and on YouTube, remember to like, comment and subscribe on our YouTube page. If you're listening to audio only, make sure you download, follow, leave a five star review and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. Casey, thank you so much for joining us today and good luck to the Bucs this year. Yeah, thank you guys so much.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pick 6 podcast, CBS NFL podcast. I'm Katie Mox, here with Will Brinson, and today Brady Quinn joins the show. We will discuss OTA's new rules, the commander's deal, and players gambling.


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[Assistant] And a little bit more. If you're liking the pod, show us some love. Remember to like, comment and subscribe on the YouTube page. If you're an audio listener, download, follow, leave a five star review and tell your friends.


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[Assistant] I don't know if it's necessarily breaking news, guys, but I was watching SportsCenter and apparently OTAs are going on. So far, Aaron Rodgers has perfect attendance in New York, something we haven't seen for a while. But while he was working out with the other quarterbacks, he seemed to have


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[Assistant] Yes. Okay. Alright, so let's move on from the Eagles and unfortunately get into some more somber news. Uh, Brown's legendary fullback civil rights activist and actor Jim Brown unfortunately passed away last week. Brady, as an Ohio native and a member of the Cleveland Browns fraternity of players, what did Jim Brown mean to you?


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[Assistant] Certainly someone who will be missed and had a huge impact on and off the field. So rest in peace, Jim Brown.


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[Assistant] Let's now talk about some new rules in the NFL that have passed. Uh, my favorite one is NFL owners passed a bylaw that allows teams to have a third quarterback in uniform on game days. This of course on the heels of the NFC championship game debacle. Uh, Brady, why is this best for all quarterbacks?


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[Assistant] That makes sense. Uh, I wanna bring up something that Captain Spock said in the chat here. What are Brady's thoughts on Trey Lance working out with Jeff Christensen and Patrick Mahomes? Lot of positive development, uh, coming out in the media about Trey Lance and his arm fatigue. They seem to work that out. So what are your thoughts on Trey Lance right now?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, what about the arm fatigue situation that they seem to have affixed to that? He no longer is getting the arm fatigue that he was getting, which was a huge concern last year. Is that?


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[Assistant] Yep. Alright, there is one more rule change as well. The NFL passed a new rule instituting that all fair catches and touchbacks come out to the 25 yard line on kickoffs. Uh, it's the same rule as college. The thought is it would make things safer. Those special teams coaches around the league oppose the change. Brady, what do you think of this?


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[Assistant] Yes, yes, we will do that. We are going to take a quick break, but before we get out of here on this break, not for good, miss some of the action while you were sleeping. Your sports day starts here, highlights all the highlights from all


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[Assistant] Alright, highlights from all the top games and league. Catch up on storylines and social buzz. Jump in and jump out. Morning Buzz runs all morning starting at 9am. Get it all for free on CBS Sports app. This is PixHix. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to Pick Six Podcast, Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Brady Quinn. If you're not following us on social, go ahead and do that at Pick Six Pod across all social media platforms. Uh, Brinson, what, I don't have that on my rundown here, so what are you doing?


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[Assistant] Okay, yes, but I want to say, if any of my bosses are listening, please send me to that Super Bowl, otherwise I will riot, because I think I deserve to be there. Alright, moving on to the Washington commanders. Yes, riot.


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[Assistant] Quiet riotive. Please send me. No? Okay, cool, thanks.


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[Assistant] Of the agreement, specifically the Harris Group's ability to stay under the league's $1.1 billion debt limit to finance this purchase, which of course is now delaying everything, and the NFL owners have not been able to vote on it. Uh, we've got a clip, I believe, from, uh, Jim Ursay.


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[Assistant] Do we have video of me talking last week? Yeah, who's to say? Oh, here we are.


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[Assistant] Alright, so, uh, Jerry and Jim, uh, are, I don't even know how to take what they said. They think it'll get done.


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[Assistant] Well, let's just think about if the deal doesn't get done.


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[Assistant] What happens to the commanders?


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[Assistant] What's up next? Alright, what's up next? Uh, Dee Hoff, DeAndre Hopkins went on the I Am Athlete podcast and he said, Josh Allen is the new age Andrew Luck. His exact quote is, one of my favorite quarterbacks that I've been watching since he came into the league is Josh Allen. He reminds me of a new school, Andrew Luck. I love Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] One, I want to know, Brady, is Josh Allen the new Andrew Luck and what exactly does that mean? And then I want to talk about something else that DHOP said about where he'd like to go. So we'll start there.


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[Assistant] I tapped out around Mario Kart, so didn't really get into-


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[Assistant] Such a good game. Okay, well, just before, we're gonna take a quick break here, but okay, so dhop wants good ownership.


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[Assistant] A quarterback who loves the game and a great defense. Now of course that sounds.


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[Assistant] That sounds like the bills. It will, it will, by the way, it is San Francisco, but I know the DHOP isn't going there, but those three things.


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[Assistant] Brady, you know it too. You know it. You just complimented Jed York and, and the Niners so you know that it's good ownership. We've got three quarterbacks who love the game and you know.


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[Assistant] What does that do to a locker room, either the locker room that he's in or the locker room that he will be potentially going to that there is a player who is kind of bad mouthing his organization?


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[Assistant] And his quarterback trying to get out is do you look at them differently as a player or do you just understand that it's the business question?


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Fake Six Podcast. I'm Katie Mox, here with Will Brinson and Brady Quinn.


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[Assistant] Alright, we talked about some ownership issues. Now let's talk about former players as minority owners because Tom Brady reached a deal to become part owner of the Las Vegas Raiders, which has spawned a bunch of conspiracy theories. How much validity should we put into that?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Plus I think Florida is a little bit trickier, right? If it's California maybe.


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[Assistant] Trolling around at the Super Bowl, which is exciting for me. Uh, before we get out of here, I want to touch one more hot topic here. Uh, Brady, as you know, there was a second round of gambling violations for players, most notably with the Lions.


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[Assistant] How do we, how do they avoid this? It's such a sticky situation because the NFL gets so much money from sports books. And of course they can't be gambling on the NFL, but it's.


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[Assistant] Well here's how teams can help that, because when I go into the studio at CBS, you are blocked from going on any gambling sites. You try to go in on something you can't do.


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[Assistant] But that's, yeah, but you think the players are going on. They're obviously logging on to the team wifi or whatever. That is at least one step. It's not going to prevent it completely, but if you block them from going on there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree. All right, Brinson, I know you have got to get out of here, so that is going to wrap up our show today. Make sure you join us on Thursday at 1 PM for more offseason coverage and send us your mailbag questions to at pick six pod on Twitter or any of our individual accounts for an upcoming mailbag episode. We'll see you Thursday.


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[Assistant] Never left. I prayed hard but not hard enough apparently, Katie.


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[Assistant] Hello everyone and welcome to the Pick 6 podcast, CBS NFL podcast. I'm Katie Mox.


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[Assistant] Here with Will Brinson, he is back from vacation. John Breach and BQ because today is our Brady Quinn show. Make sure you stay tuned with us all week long for your off-season news and remember to like, comment and subscribe on the YouTube page.


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[Assistant] Anyone listening to audio only, do the same, download, follow, leave a five star review, and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. Brinson!


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[Assistant] It's good to see you. If you're wondering why we're 10 minutes late, Brinson had a flurry of issues today.


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[Assistant] I actually like that. Alright, well real quick though, tell us about your vacation. You were on a lot of nice golf courses.


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[Assistant] Great people. Alright, well we're happy to have you back at the Brinstegator. I've changed your nickname from Brincinator to Brinstegator.


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[Assistant] Uh, let's talk NFL. Pretty exciting news this week. They are releasing the schedule on Thursday, May 11th at 8 PM Eastern.


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[Assistant] Uh, they previously announced that the Bills, Titans, Jags, Chiefs, Patriots will all host international games this season. But the real exciting thing is the next season will feature 14 playoff rematches from last year, including a reprise of the Super Bowl between the Loser Eagles and the Champion Chiefs.


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[Assistant] So what matchup are you most excited to see here? I'll start with you, Brady.


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[Assistant] Next year, guy, we got Jaime, my friend in the chat, saying Eagles versus 49ers, so Katie Mox can have a bad day at work. Thank you so much for that, senior football.


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[Assistant] I would like to see this. One, I hope it's Brock Purdy, right? We don't know who the quarterback's gonna be, but I would like to see that rematch for Brock Purdy. Now he can throw lefty as well, but that is one at least that 49ers fans want to see because we feel like we were robbed of the chance to compete.


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[Assistant] So that's probably, it's tough because it's going to be a road game for the Niners, but I'm excited to see that matchup.


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[Assistant] Excited to see that as well. Yeah, the, uh, the original team of a Joe Cool and the newer version of Joe Cool. I think that's a fun one. Look, I'm excited for the Niners to see anybody good because I want to see them, you know, compete with the best, but I am most excited for the rematch against the Eagles because again, I don't feel like we had a fair shot to win that game.


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[Assistant] Alright. Well, any, any other games or matchups that you guys are looking forward to seeing?


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[Assistant] Well, if you put it in a butter bell, I have a butter bell that has a little bit of water at the end that keeps it at the right temperature. That's...


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[Assistant] Okay. The Patriots being maybe not that intriguing. What's another team that you find just completely un-intriguing or not very intriguing coming up this season? Is it the Rams? Possibly the Arizona Cardinals? Who are you just not looking forward to watching as much?


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[Assistant] So Brinton, you're saying that the Jets can be this season's Broncos where there's a bunch of primetime games that we are forced to watch.


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[Assistant] Joe Musso is here on behalf of Pete, everybody, sticking up for Pete Prisco. I do think for a social clip, everybody should do their best Pete Prisco impression and, uh, we'll let the people vote.


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[Assistant] Alright, on that note, let's take a very quick break here before we get out. The UEFA Champions League on Paramount Plus is down to the final four teams and two epic semifinal matchups. Kareem Benzuma and defending champs Real Madrid.


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[Assistant] Take on Erling Holland and the tournament favorite Manchester City in a rematch of last year's thrilling semifinal.


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[Assistant] Try it free at paramount plus dot com slash live sports. You're watching pick six. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the pick six podcast. If you're not following us on social, make sure you do that now at pick six pod across all social media platforms. Brinson, did you want to say something before the break?


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[Assistant] Alright, moving on here. The commanders tampering with luck. The Colts asked the NFL to investigate possible tampering by the commanders with luck report saying they called the retired quarterback to play with their franchise.


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[Assistant] This seems a little crazy to me, but Brady, what does this mean for the commanders and their new ownership going forward?


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[Assistant] Yeah, a lot of shots. A lot of people weighing in on the chat on Andrew like saying he's lost about 50 pounds. Do you think that he will ever come back and can he still play?


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[Assistant] It could be 50 pounds actually, looking at him here.


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[Assistant] Get our luck in the next segment here and take a quick break. You're watching Pick Six, we'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Fake Six Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and John Breach and Brady Quinn. Why? Because today is the Brady Quinn Show. Make sure you join us all week to keep it locked on anything NFL offseason news. Remember to like, comment, subscribe on the YouTube page.


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[Assistant] Another exciting schedule situation is that Christmas Day will feature a triple header


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[Assistant] Which is interesting, uhm, because it goes up against the NBA. It's also happening on a Monday, which kind of makes this a little bit more interesting. In the past, the league has kind of conceded to the NBA


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[Assistant] Be cute, what does this mean for basketball and should this tripleheader be a weekly thing for the NFL?


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[Assistant] I hadn't seen anything other than the actual clip that was on the internet and actually didn't even watch it. I just read the quotes. So Breach, you're one who historically likes to sensationalize things. That's your forte in terms of writing headlines and stuff and making people click on things. Do you find any of this now having hurt the whole thing? Any of it controversial?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and Brady talked about in the clip. It's not necessarily clear that he's, he's falling. He's still QB2 for Brady. He's QB2 for me. I know he's QB2 for Rick Spielman. And the only reason that he's QB2 is because Bryce Young is a special talent and Bryce Young.


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[Assistant] If you were 6'1", I've said this before, would be in the same conversation as Trevor Lawrence and Joe Burrow coming out in terms of being a slam dunk franchise quarterback. And I think exactly what Brady talked about with


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[Assistant] Before, uh, the bears pulled off the deal with the Panthers and they were going to go get Bryce. So they love Bryce. They're not quite as high on CJ.


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[Assistant] And they, I've heard that they could potentially, if they can't trade out of that pick, they might even think about Willie Anderson there. That seems crazy to me. You need a quarterback. If you're the Texans, you have two first round picks.


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[Assistant] Uh, and let's say they trade down because Bryce isn't there. A natural trade partner might be the Colts, even though they're in the same division. And the Colts, I've heard of one of the few teams that would take Will Lebus early in round one.


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[Assistant] And maybe they trade up for Will Levis if they think he's the guy. I would just trade up and take CJ Stroud. So I'm not convinced that CJ Stroud is quote unquote slipping.


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[Assistant] And if you get outside of the top five, it would be something that has absolutely nothing to do with football, uh, or the Manning Academy, or it would be something major. And I don't think he gets outside of the top five. I would be shocked if he gets outside the top three, if the Texans for whatever reason don't want him and end up trading down or taking Willie Anderson.


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[Assistant] Cardinals will certainly allow a team to trade up at three with them and take them there. So nothing's changed. We talked to him at the Superbowl. We talked to him at the combine. He is a solid dude. And I've said this before. You watch him play on Saturdays and you're like, okay, he's throwing to Marvin Harrison the second and it's Jax Smith and Jay McGarrett Wilson, Chris Alavi and those guys.


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[Assistant] So yea, anybody could do that and it's not really, he doesn't necessarily stick out to you in his playmaking abilities. And then he ran to the Georgia game, used his legs.


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[Assistant] And then you talk to him and then you talk to his teammates and you get the sense that, okay, this guy is legit. He's a leader.


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[Assistant] His teammates buy into what he's selling. He supports his teammates. Uh, he goes out of his way to talk up his teammates.


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[Assistant] Whether he went to the Manny passing category or not in my team with the top five pick, I don't care. I give zero F's to what he did or did not do for Peyton and Eli Manny. Uh, I care what he can do, um, for a football team. And Victor Garcia says in the chat, Stroud is the best quarterback in this class and there's some NFL teams that feel that way.


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[Assistant] And uhm, for a while I'd heard of the Panthers and ran on them until the Bryce Young.


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[Assistant] Stuff started getting some steam. So we'll find out together, but I don't, I don't think he's following breach.


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[Assistant] Or 10 or 11. He was supposed to be the second best prospect. No, that's not true. According to who? A lot of people. He was the number two quarterback.


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[Assistant] But you're, you're, you're confusing, like, here's the thing, CJ's better than Justin coming out as a passer, he's not a better runner. Patrick Mahone's a tenth of a roll.


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[Assistant] Well, anything's possible, but put a percentage on the chances that he falls out, because it's gonna be less than 5%.


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[Assistant] Well, the only thing I, I mean, I, I love Lance Airline, but the only thing, he's one guy with the grades, so I...


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[Assistant] No, that's fair. There's a conversation we had there. But I think the other thing is, unlike last year's draft class where the media, myself included, tried to talk ourselves into these third round picks going into the first round of quarterback,


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[Assistant] CJ Stroud is a, is a top five player. So he very, there is a possibility in some world that he falls out of the top 10. I think it's at 5% or less. Brentson thinks it's at 25% and Breach hopes it's somewhere in between so he can win $10.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I wonder if it's just a matter of he said it out loud where how many players have said this privately to their coach or their GM or their owner that, you know what? I got 15 concussions last year. I didn't know if I was going to keep playing.


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[Assistant] And look, when he was on too, it was really good. And I think that sort of supersedes any concerns about giving a big contract. If he plays up to his potential and plays like, uh, the Dolphins thought he would play when they drafted him ahead of Justin Herbert, who's about to get some Jalen Hurts money, then he will also be in that conversation for Jalen Hurts money, uh, if he's healthy.


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[Assistant] I was so hoping you were gonna say, given the old, uh, capital of, uh, Thailand to John Breachland's way out the door.


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[Assistant] But they only have four picks in the first round, uh, in the entire draft. The first one doesn't come until the second round. So if I don't, like a quarterback feels...


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[Assistant] So they may have to trade up if they want to get into the Hidden Hooker conversation. But then the question becomes, he's coming off an ACL, he's 25. If 2 will play as well and then you get him on a second deal, what are you doing with Hidden Hooker? Are you gonna?


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[Assistant] Uh, sort of pull a Jimmy Garoppolo and look to trade him, uh, to another team before the trade deadline. And then that's a whole nother ball of wax. So I don't think a quarterback is, is a realistic expectation for a team that has needs along the piece of line. They need a tight end. You can even get some wide receiver running back help. And maybe they go in those directions with the understanding that to, uh, um,


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[Assistant] You know, fingers crossed is able to get back to his form and stay healthy.


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[Assistant] If you love to run the ball, you take Anthony Richardson then there because you killed two birds with one stone. Um, and. Well, you can't play him this year. You can set up packages where he runs the ball. Of course you can.


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[Assistant] There's going to be structure and stability in the front office and with the coaching staff that like to run the ball. He doesn't have to play for year one, maybe even year two, if you want to be that patient. That said, I've heard that, uh, even more than Jalen Carter and Spielman always likes to say that Seattle likes to celebrate uniqueness is how he describes it when you take players that other teams aren't necessarily going to take.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, I don't know what the first take podcast, wherever you get your podcast. Um, but, uh, I've heard that Tyree Wilson, if he's there, they're going to take Tyree. That's what I heard last week. So we'll, we'll see. He's natural Russia or Texas tech has a foot that, um, if that's clear, then he could be a top five guy too, but, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, that's right. And Breach actually touched on it twice now. He's talked about, well, we don't know what these team's draft boards are.


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[Assistant] And Spielman talked about this on the, with the first big podcast last week. How about how?


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[Assistant] When the draft actually happens, the boards are set. There's no conversation about should we take Jalen Carter or Tyree Wilson because you've already, uh, ranked these players within groups. So the top five guys, you may have ranked one to five and perhaps you reorder what your rankings were, how you had them graded. So if the Seahawks have Tyree Wilson ranked ahead of Jalen Carter.


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[Assistant] And they have Anthony Richardson ranked ahead of both. If those three guys are there, they're taking Anthony Richardson.


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[Assistant] They had that set in the days leading up to the draft. And Rick even said they would talk to the owner and let the owner know what the plans are of the ownership. And everyone was on the same page and that's how teams seemed to work. And that was enlightening for me because you have this vision if you watch stupid draft day movie where you're having all these conversations about who are we going to take here and there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's been settled. The only thing you're really doing is answering phone calls about draft traded up or trade downs.


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[Assistant] So if the Seahawks like Tyree Wilson, number one, and everyone else on the draft and the draft is available, they're taking Tyree Wilson. So we'll see what happens. I mean, that's what I heard. It doesn't mean it's going to happen, but the last I checked in, they were, they were high on Tyree.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's a great athlete. He ain't a top five guy, but he's a great athlete.


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[Assistant] I do like Drew Sanders. I like Drew Sanders. I wasn't, I wasn't even, uhm, coming down on you on that. He's, he's a really good player. Do you know where he came, where he played 2021?


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[Assistant] That's fine, no, he, he, he, he, when he transferred to Arkansas is when he started ballin' out, he moved off all linebackers. He was Bama, wasn't he?


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[Assistant] He's the edge rusher behind Will Anderson and Dallas Turner and he wasn't getting a lot of playing time. He was a five star coming out, so he left. He didn't run because of hamstring, but he's, he's probably a four or five guy. He's like six, five, two, 35 ish. But my list isn't much different than yours in breaches except for the, the Drew Sanders curve ball there because Jalen Carter's won. He's the best player in this draft.


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[Assistant] Will Anderson and Tyree are neck and neck and depending on your flavor, I could see one going ahead of the other and I wouldn't push back on that. I have Christian Gonzalez and Devon Witherspoon neck and neck as well.


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[Assistant] I love both those players. I actually like Devin Weatherstein a little better, I think, uhm, to Brenton's point. He's 6'6, 180. He weighed 185 a few weeks ago when he worked out, ran a 4-4.


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[Assistant] But he plays like he's 220 pounds. He, he is looking to blow things up. He's also really good in carbon. Um, and then, uh, like Breach, I had Deontay Banks, Deontay Banks is actually sixth among my defenders. He's tied with Joey Porter and Lucas Van Ness. He's the edge rusher at Iowa, who also, as it turns out, never started a game at Iowa, but he is probably going to be a first round pick and probably go in the middle of the first round.


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[Assistant] He is sort of, I mentioned this to a scout in the fall, sort of Isaiah Simmons-y in terms of his versatility and they laughed at me, but he does have that versatility because he's played outside, he plays off ball. Isaiah plays safety and they sort of misuse him in Arizona, but uhm, the versatility and the athleticism is what jumps out for sure.


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[Assistant] Wait a second. Wait, wait. We gotta back up. Cause Katie just, she dumped Jimmy Garoppolo like he looks like the Elephant Man. And she, the way she's just respecting this guy.


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[Assistant] Hey Breach, let me point out to you quickly, they don't have a, they don't have a pick until round three this year. I think the pick 99 is the 49ers first pick. They have a first, second and third in 2024. They have all their draft picks in 2025. Are you giving up two first round picks after not having one this year for Lamar?


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[Assistant] You think it's, you think it's- I don't know, why is this convoluted? Two first round picks, decide them afterwards, like, breach, point it out, done and done. Then what do you do with Trey Lance? You trade him to Baltimore, what do you mean what do you do with Trey Lance?


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[Assistant] Alright, well, we'll find out, but Katie asked the question and we're trying to be respectful of her question.


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[Assistant] I agree with that. I'm not saying that's part of the deal, but you can still trade them separately. You can do, you know, you can do both.


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[Assistant] I get that, but Baltimore needs a quarterback, so you think they would be amenable to the idea of picking on a quarterback who's in year three.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pick 6 podcast, CBS Daily NFL podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Brady Quinn. It's the Brady Quinn football show and Will Brinson.


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[Assistant] Sports, or excuse me, soccer network. Are you guys, uh, European football fans at all?


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[Assistant] Oh, boo stew. Oh my god, booing stew is actually a fun little thing. But Brady, you've got daughters. Are you a soccer dad?


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[Assistant] I think we got to bring on as an analyst for the Galazzo Network. Seems like you actually know quite a bit about the defense.


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[Assistant] This should be like a reality show about Coach Brady and, uh, and the girls, cause this sounds like some must-watched TV.


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[Assistant] Speaking of Must Watch TV, CBS Sports Galazzo Network, the first of its kind, free 24-7 channel dedicated exclusively to global soccerage...


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[Assistant] Off on the right foot with Morning Footie, our weekday soccer culture-driven morning show beginning at 7 a.m. Eastern. Plus, don't miss the rest of our top-notch programming, including live matches and re-airs, original studio shows, highlights, documentaries, and much more. CBS Sports' Gulazo Network is the ultimate year-round streaming destination for fans of the beautiful game like Brady Quinn.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, OBJ, let's talk about American football now. OBJ signed a one-year deal with the Ravens.


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[Assistant] It would make him earning at least 15 million and as much as 18 million on the deal. No other free agent wide receiver got more than 11 million per year. And it's the most guaranteed money, uh, was given to Alan Lazard actually at $22 million, but that was a four year deal.


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[Assistant] Brady, is this the greatest money spent by Eric DeCosta?


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[Assistant] Do you guys think this means that Lamar Jephon will play under the franchise tag then?


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[Assistant] Alright, let's move on to someone who has dropped a lot of weight and is looking very svelte. Russell O'Koon dropped an insane amount of weight. Hopefully Billy has a picture that he's gonna pop up for us here. He was most recently listed as 310 pounds, but he doesn't look like that anymore.


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[Assistant] Who's someone else that made a transition? I mean, I know that like, yeah. Like, look at this. This is...


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't like drinking greens. I don't know what it is, it just doesn't.


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[Assistant] Never you. Never you. Alright, we're gonna take a quick break. You're watching the Fix6 Podcast. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pig Six Podcast. Katie Moxwell, Brynson, Brady Quinn. If you are not following us on socials, what are you doing at Pig Six Pod across all social media platforms?


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[Assistant] Rescheduling attempts, which obviously they were just rescheduling, rescheduling because they didn't want him to be deposed.


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[Assistant] Brady, do you think that this off-field stuff is ever going to stop for Watson?


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[Assistant] We talk about, you know, he has to have a good year this year. Do you think that he'll be able to focus on football? I kinda think no and I keep equating it back to


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[Assistant] What happened with Tiger Woods when the entire world knows that you're a creep and they know your deepest, darkest secrets and that you've done really unsavory things. And I've seen what the fans are shouting at him also when he's playing. I don't know that you can bounce out of that and really focus on the game when everybody knows what you are on the inside and it's not pretty.


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[Assistant] Situation the commanders reached a $625,000 settlement for their nearly $5 million of fans money that they stole.


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[Assistant] Oh. Oh, that would be good for the Brinson Sockhounds.


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[Assistant] I like the Washington football team. I don't think you can change the name again. They can't have three names in a span of like three or four years. But so Brady, what do you think the value is now the commanders? I mean in 2022 it was $5.6 billion making them the six most valuable franchise in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Is there value going up now that they're kind of cleaning up their side of the street, getting rid of this stuff or what?


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[Assistant] They have giant, they have giant rockets.


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[Assistant] Alright fellas, on that note, on the Blue Origin Rocket Note, we will take a quick break. You're watching the Pick 6 Podcast. More Rockets when we come back.


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[Assistant] Cleansing the air from, uh, our last conversation with some, some unsavory, uh, people. Let's talk about the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] They have the number three overall pick and there is a sweepstakes going on right now. They have apparently received inquiries from at least six teams. You got the Raiders, Titans, Colts have all been in the mix. Obviously everyone trying to get the best defensive players available.


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[Assistant] Brady, who do you think is going to make a play for this number three?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would say probably three teams in the mix. Uhm, I definitely think that the Raiders are probably one of the top ones. I agree with Brinson about the Colts just moving one spot maybe doesn't make enough sense with what they have to trade for it, but I would like to see the Raiders move up for this one and help out my guy Jimmy, obviously.


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[Assistant] Well, we already know how I feel about the tree lance thing. I didn't think that we should have done that and given up all of that stuff for him. So yes, I see what you're saying here, Brady, that they're going to get fleece for this number three and maybe that then affects the Raiders now. I don't want them necessarily to trade all that stuff away. So.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, speaking of Arizona, Cliff Kingsbury is back from Bangkok. Oh, Lord have mercy. He has accepted a job at USC as an advisor. Why go to USC, Brady?


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[Assistant] I still vote Ryan Gosling. I still vote Ryan Gosling. Y'all can, y'all can breed with Ryan or with uh, Clint Kingsbury and I will, I will choose Ryan Gosling.


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[Assistant] Alright, before we get out of here, uh, NBA play-in tournament starts tonight. We got the Heats and the Hawks and then the Lakers and the Timberwolves. Brinson, I saw you, uhm, making some bets on that already. What do you got?


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[Assistant] Go Bears. It's 8 points though. It's a lot of points. I like that though. I like the Lakers over their team total. It's at 119 and a half. They've gone over this a lot recently. And I actually like the Hawks. Uh, not to win the game. I think to win the game. I'm taking the points with the Hawks.


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[Assistant] The facial symmetry with Rob Lowe is elite.


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[Assistant] I do, but not regularly. I do, when I'm home here at my parents house, I play more golf.


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[Assistant] My favorite hobby, what I like to do, well, outside of just like watching football and obsessing about the 49ers, uhm. This ain't no hobby.


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[Assistant] Waste management is the only one where you can yell and be full debauchery.


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[Assistant] Thank you so much for tuning in today. Make sure you join us on Thursday at 1pm for more NFL offseason coverage. Of course, remember to like, comment, subscribe to the YouTube page if you're listening to the audio version. Only do the same, download, follow, leave a five star review and tell your friends to listen.


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[Assistant] And watch the pod. I think we gave you a lot of reasons today to tune in on Thursday. See you later.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports NFL Podcast. I'm Will Rinson. I'm your host.


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[Assistant] Franchise tag deadline has come and gone. We're going to break it all down and maybe none of you ever get like a, you know, it's not an emergency pod, but it's like a franchise tag recap pod.


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[Assistant] Please give me a third round tender. So uhm, if I had to use it, I mean like, there's a couple ways you can go with this. One, you have to assume that uhm,


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[Assistant] So that means you can't, you can't be like, well, you're getting the wide receiver tag ready. You gotta get Brady the quarterback tag.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right. Like when like Ballet Sports comes in and offers Pete like...


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[Assistant] It would be, it wouldn't, not for Pete, not very rich, I don't think, but yes, it would be hilarious.


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[Assistant] That's where I went. That was a pretty good quick thinking by me. Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] Given the non-exclusive franchise tag by the Ravens, a statement issued by Eric Dacosta stating basically we weren't able to come to a deal. Um, they knocked out the, you know, I think they, I think they, they, you could tell that the things basically wrapped up


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[Assistant] And you know, certain like it was clear nothing was going to happen. I mean, the Costa in the statement said, have you not yet reached a long-term deal with Lamar Jackson? We will use the franchise tag. There were many instances across the league in Baltimore where the player has been designated with the tag and signed a long-term deal that same year.


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[Assistant] One, actually, I guess the question is ultimately because we've already heard two teams reportedly. Uh, I think it was Joe person.


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[Assistant] Uh, for the Charlotte Observer, or no, just with the athletic. The Charlotte Observer reported, and I didn't see it, I just heard that, that the Panthers would not be pursuing Lamar Jackson. And Diana Rossini of ESPN reported that the Falcons would not be pursuing Lamar Jackson. To me,


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[Assistant] Those are the two most obvious landing spots potential places for Lamar to go. And I sort of wonder Brady, but I guess the question is, will anybody come up at Lamar Jackson with an offer sheet or is he going to get press code here?


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[Assistant] So, so Breach, Brady mentioned this and I think it is really important to touch on. With the non-exclusive franchise tag, things become really complicated in terms of what happens moving forward.


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[Assistant] I've read the CBA a lot. I'm again a former notary, as everyone knows. Vast legal expertise. I feel, thank you Brady for raising the roof. I feel comfortable.


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[Assistant] Any team can make him an offer sheet up until when? The date of the actual date to extend players off a normal franchise tag?


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[Assistant] I'll look it up. Anyway, uh, but like you, in the new CBA, you have not seen franchise tag players hold out for the, like they just take the money and they come in and play. Le'Veon Bell being the only example of the new, of the new, the new CBA.


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[Assistant] I think it is, and the Dano Snyder thing is really fascinating because for the exact point that you note, if he believes he's being forced to sell because I think you could arguably make the case and now I wouldn't, you know, I don't want to.


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[Assistant] Careful here because I don't want to allege something that I have obviously no ability to prove.


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[Assistant] Fully guaranteed contracts and make sure that Deshaun Watson is in fact not, not the norm, but an aberration.


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[Assistant] It would be for none of the other NFL owners and the NFL teams to pursue Lamar Jackson, knowing he needs a fully guaranteed deal. And that's why it's really interesting to hear immediately that the Panthers and the Falcons, especially teams that were involved with the Deshaun Watson, like.


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[Assistant] I think the issue for Lamar in terms of getting that.


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[Assistant] Uh, fully guaranteed deal is I don't know that it happens with an agent. And the reason why is that I think an agent is going to push to one. I mean, like if you have an agent.


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[Assistant] And people don't want to sign with anybody who can't get someone signed. Two, the agent is going to push to get money in his pocket.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And look, like I'm with you. If you, if he wants to get a deal done with the Ravens getting an agent, yes, when he lose some money off the top, but he would ultimately get the deal done and he would, he would get close. I think if he, it just boils down to.


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[Assistant] Is he entrenched in this idea that he is going to get a fully guaranteed contract?


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[Assistant] Now the question that becomes if he's willing to play out two more years of the franchise tag, which is because the Ravens will tag him again next year. Cause you can go up to 120%. You can do non-exclusive and no one's going to give him an offer next year. If they don't this year, if he does that, then the question is,


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[Assistant] Will somebody give him a fully guaranteed contract in free agency?


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[Assistant] Okay, there's a huge difference between doing fully guaranteed with, without the two first round picks. I mean, that's, you know, you, you feel like your team has a much better chance of being competitive, like keeping the two first round picks and giving those up and, and, and signing.


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[Assistant] And then again, let's just on the hypothetical of collusion, last I find myself.


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[Assistant] Not that the NFL owners are that worried about this, but I'm saying like in the hypothetical of this collusion case, which by the way, it wouldn't be unprecedented for the NFLPA to file a collusion claim on behalf of Lamar. We've seen that in recent years. I don't think it's going to happen. I'm just saying it wouldn't be unprecedented.


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[Assistant] The Bengals, we don't need to talk to the Bengals about this. They don't want fully guaranteed contracts out there because they've got Joe Burrow coming up. We don't need to talk to the Chargers about this. They've got, you know, Justin Herbert coming up. We don't need to talk to the Raiders. Mark Davis isn't even a billionaire. He's like half a billionaire. Oh my God.


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[Assistant] And you go through the list and find like, there's a short number of teams that you need to basically say, we're not coming after Lamar. And all of a sudden it completely evaporates all of his leverage. It has, it explains what the market is to him from the market's perspective.


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[Assistant] And if you have that knowledge of what your peers are thinking on other teams, it makes it a lot easier to play that game of chicken. And so in, in this hypothetical that we're discussing, I don't know, it feels like a very good possibility.


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[Assistant] Just the timing of it. It's so weird how these teams have already decided this. Uh, Jeff Darlington or our pal Jeff Darlington who lives, lives down your way. The Dolphins would not be pursuing Lamar Jackson or any other starting quarterbacks this all season. Multiple team sources tell me is one source said Mike Foley believes two is a perfect fit for his system.


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[Assistant] This despite, so they're not interested in Lamar Jackson despite heavy rumblings.


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[Assistant] Of Tom Brady. If Tom Brady signs in Miami and the Dolphins like came out with this, we're not pursuing Lamar.


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[Assistant] Like five minutes after Walmart gets the non-exclusive tag, you can kind of connect the dots there.


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[Assistant] Yeah. For instance, Lamar could sign now and he wouldn't, and this now, and this is where, as we pointed out with the agent stuff, it, again, it gets really tricky because you don't have an agent. Like an agent's sole job would be to work with the various teams that might have interest in you.


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[Assistant] For instance, let's just say hypothetically that the San Francisco 49ers were interested in Lamar Jackson and they wanted to work out a deal where it's a sign and trade.


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[Assistant] Well, without an agent, it is really hard because you have to negotiate one with the Ravens.


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[Assistant] You say like, listen, you're going to sign this Tinder, you know, this trade is going to happen.


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[Assistant] Without an agent, man, that, that, that part, that sign of trade becomes really difficult. It seems to me that this may come down to whether or not Lamar Jackson is willing to leave. I guess it would be what? 10 weeks of pro rated.


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[Assistant] Salary on the 10 weeks of like 32 something million dollars on the table and to sit out for the full season or whether he will eventually just sign the, sign the tender.


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[Assistant] Show up, play on the 32 million. Cause I mean, unless it's Washington coming in rogue, it doesn't look like anybody's going to. I mean, the quickness with which these teams.


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[Assistant] Leaked this information that they are not interested in the former MVP available for two first round picks is startling. So that I think


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[Assistant] Yeah, and, and very quickly too, and I don't think, I don't really believe this. I've just put on, but I do, I do think that there will be teams in the league who might think this.


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[Assistant] Do we then have to fit a system around him? You know, like, do you have to, do you have to bring it like you've most teams have already, everybody's already hired their coach or their offensive coordinator and.


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[Assistant] Brought in their coaching staffs and like, for instance, the Panthers, I don't know the answer to this with Frank Reich, but it's entirely possible that Frank Reich, you know, he was like, Hey, look,


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[Assistant] Like talking to Tepper and talking to Scott Fritter, the GM, the owner, David Tepper, of course, and saying, you know, Lamar is an incredible player. I don't know that for the cost.


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[Assistant] From a contractor and a cost from the draft pick perspective, especially holding number nine.


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[Assistant] That this is the right move, you know, given our system. I mean, so like that part of that is reasonable with them as well. The Falcons one is weird because he would fit perfectly what Arthur Blake wants to do. I mean, what Arthur Smith wants to do. Excuse me. Anyway.


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[Assistant] Daniel Jones, the former number six overall pick by the New York football giants and a four year $160 million deal according to Ian Rappaport of NFL media. You can see it here. $94 million.


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[Assistant] Virtually guaranteed at signing $82 million guaranteed over the first two years, $35 million in incentives and a first year cap number around 19 million. It is a like, we'll see when the actual numbers come out.


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[Assistant] But if he's getting 82 million fully guaranteed over the first two years with some incentives built in, that means at worst case scenario, Daniel Jones just got two years and $41 million per year, which is a hell of a contract for a guy who didn't even have his fifth year option picked up by the Giants Brady.


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[Assistant] To me, what this, the setup with the giants and the biggest problem is, is that it is a, it is a fault. It was a mistake by ownership one to.


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[Assistant] Now granted, the previous regime drafted both of these guys, but they didn't get any, they didn't get out of them. They didn't get out of them what they wanted to get out of them. It took this new regime of Joe Shane and Brian Dable to get out what they expected from Saquon Barkley, albeit, you know, taking away that first year, and then Daniel Jones. Now the mistake that was made by the front office, the previous front office,


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[Assistant] And by ownership, and this is not, and I understand why they made the mistake by, or they, why they made the mistake of not picking up Daniel Jones fifth year option. It looked like he was not going to be a guy who was worth that type of money. We just seen in the class before Sam Darnall, Baker Mayfield, fifth year options get picked up. It becomes a nightmare.


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[Assistant] You know, you have to, like the Panthers picked up Sam Donaldson looked like idiots and you know, that's what the Giants were thinking. But.


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[Assistant] If you draft a player like Saquon Barkley who even as a running back is a high level, you know, high level name, high level talent.


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[Assistant] Is going to command a pretty big, you know, he's going to command a decent contract and you draft a guy like Daniel Jones at six overall. So two top 10 picks and you don't pick up the fifth year optional Daniel Jones. You have inherently placed him on the same timeline as Saquon Barkley. So if you have any inclination whatsoever to pick, to, to sign both either of those guys or both of those guys.


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[Assistant] You, you, you just need to just bite the bullet and take that fifth year Danny Dines and see if maybe some, he could turn the corner. And so they had the chance to do that. It was a mistake not to do that. And ultimately it gave the Daniel Jones and his new representation cause CAA apparently didn't want to talk to the giants, um, leverage in, in terms of being able to say, Hey, look,


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[Assistant] You know, you, we know you guys want to sign Saquon Barkley.


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[Assistant] And we know, like we know you guys clearly want to sign Daniel Jones, but you have to sign one of them because you can only use, only use the franchise tag of one guy. And the smart move was to pay Daniel Jones. You pay the quarterback and you tag the running back. We'll talk about that in a minute after we take a break.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this deal is really, really rich for a guy who, you know, flash last year, but hasn't exactly proven it to be a consistent winner at, at the level. And I do wonder Brady, how much of.


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[Assistant] The emphasis to keep Saquon and Daniel Jones on this roster.


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[Assistant] Came from the coaching staff in the front office versus coming from ownership who loved both guys the second that they drafted.


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[Assistant] At the same time, you know, we see this, we see this a lot where the initial report is four years, $160 million.


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[Assistant] Pick up the fifth year option and then use the franchise tag, which you, cause you won't have to use it cause you use it on sake. You wanted to use on sake one cause you use it the year before, but it's just a poor long-term management process. And granted you split up the front office change and everything.


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[Assistant] You know, like you have all this turnover with the coaching staff in the front office. I understand that makes it hard, but it's just poor long-term thinking. Just eat the 18 million or whatever it was on the fifth year option, pay him that.


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[Assistant] And you know, worst case is you get that extra year at a much lower cost to find out if he's the guy. Now you have two years at a higher price. So.


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[Assistant] I'm going to try and manage our time here. Cause it's all everybody's time is very valuable. So we're going to take a break. And when we come back, we'll talk about all the running backs who got tagged to make me a tight end to next.


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[Assistant] Actually, we just did social media with him. I love Josh Jacobs though. That's like, he's like my friend. Yeah, he's a friend of the pod. Yeah, we did an interview with him.


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[Assistant] Uh, and uh, Tony Pollard also tagged by the Dallas Cowboys. Josh Jacobs, of course, tagged by the law.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Las Vegas Raiders tagged Josh Jacobs and Saquon, of course, tagged by the Giants.


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[Assistant] Which one of these, if you had to pick one that you like the best for each, who would you go with?


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[Assistant] I mean, it's obviously the biggest number in the league right now.


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[Assistant] It's like three or $4 million more than the Titans had allocated. And yeah, it's the biggest number by far. And it's, uh, I think I don't want to say this definitely the biggest number ever, but it's got to be pretty close. I mean, this is a huge number for a pair of running backs. Now there's a decent chance that.


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[Assistant] Zeke Elliott is asked to take a pay cut. I don't think he gets cut.


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[Assistant] The, the one that, the, what's the line? The mosquito is like, it's like, he's like, I'm not circumcising a mosquito. You heard that line? The most Texas line of all time. I'll find it real quick.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I mean, what do you think that it was, like, I don't mind the, the only, the other thing too is like, like you tag Tony Pollard, like, are you 100% sure he's gonna be healthy? Cause I mean, that's, uh,


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[Assistant] I breach, I breach had the mosquito. Yeah.


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[Assistant] He's like Jerry Jones on Tony Romo. You don't have to go circum, quote, circumcising the mosquito.


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[Assistant] Well, it means that, so, I mean, I think it's, it's kind of...


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[Assistant] The same, uh, package of maybe like a horse wood, right? So, so you got a mosquito, you're talking about a mosquito penis, and it's going to circumcise, it's a difficult job because it's that microscopic.


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[Assistant] Moving along back to uhm, yeaah, I mean like, Tony Ballard's, I mean, Tony Ballard's had seasonary surgery. They don't know if he's healthy. And Zeke looks like a, like a force, force of the goal line runs type of back where


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[Assistant] I mean, and then you hear Mike McCarthy come out and say, Kelly Moore wanted to air it out. I want to run the quote, run the damn ball. Like I am very bearish on the Cowboys just with the, you know, just the initial bolt out of like the season.


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[Assistant] We can, cause Zeke has no guaranteed money left. So you can, what can they save? I mean, so it saves like $16 million by cutting Zeke. I mean, we're going to cut you or you can take this pay cut.


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[Assistant] Oh, the cowboys. What a tangled web we weave.


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[Assistant] All right. Gina Eugene Cyril Smith, the third Seattle Seahawks quarterback.


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[Assistant] I believe he made 19 million in his first like 14 years. I guess he'd be first nine years in the league.


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[Assistant] And he just signed a contract, uh, that will pay him $52 million guaranteed with the Seattle Seahawks. Uh, what, what were the numbers? It feels like it happened like seven million years ago.


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[Assistant] I think it's a three year deal for like 105 or 106 million and he gets 52 in the first year. Uh, a big deal for a guy like Juno Smith who, yeah, awesome for him. You know, like you, I mean.


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[Assistant] Yeah, now, no, no, I don't think, I don't think it does at all.


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[Assistant] I do think the Seahawks, given their history of how they've operated in the draft and how they've gone out to, remember they signed Matt Flinder a huge contract, similar to this Gino deal really, and then drafted Russell in the third round and started Russell from Jump Street. Uhm, to me the thing is,


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[Assistant] Will the CLX take a quarterback at five? I feel like they will be more inclined to either draft a blue chip defensive player.


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[Assistant] Or trade out of it with somebody like Carolina who does want to get a quarterback and then maybe sort of maneuver around and find their quarterback. And it's like, I think what you see the Seahawks doing in my opinion is trying to sort of do exactly what happened in with the Legion of boom. Now it won't work out exactly like that.


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[Assistant] But I sort of tried to replicate the same sort of setup where hit on some draft classes, you get an offensive line, you get these running, but you get Kenneth Walker.


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[Assistant] Charles Carlson comes in as a first-rounder, you know, and you hit on some defensive players, and suddenly you've got this really good run game, a quarterback who can, you know, in Gino that you trust to manage the offense, sort of like Tavares Jackson or Matt Hasselback, and then Matt Flynn as they were trying to upgrade.


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[Assistant] And then maybe you take a stab at a guy in like a middle, middle round that they think is undervalued or maybe, you know, a Hindu nooker or somebody. I don't, not that he's the guy for them, just, uh, you know what I'm saying? Like it doesn't feel like this is a team that's going to pay the premium to draft the quarterback at five, although.


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[Assistant] Yeah. They said Pete Carroll flat out said, yeah, we're in the business of quarterbacks, which makes me think he's really not.


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[Assistant] Brady, do you remember watching, um, do you remember watching Josh Allen's pro day? Do you remember John Schneider, Josh Allen's pro day?


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[Assistant] I mean, he's like watching Josh Allen there and he looks at John Dorsey who was in the GM of the chiefs, but they worked together in green Bay and he's like, hold.


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[Assistant] He's like, he's like, he's just like mouthing, like, like incredulous, like responses and looks at Josh Allen, throwing the ball, throwing bombs down the field. And I'm not saying that they're the same guy by any stretch of the imagination, but do you sort of maybe he's like Anthony Richardson, like that sort of freaking nature dude, where it's like, you know, Gino Smith.


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[Assistant] Like breach says you got him for two years. You trust him for two years. It's a reasonable price for a bridge quarterback. It is a premium. I think I agree with you, but it's a reasonable price and you draft Anthony Richardson. And if you can do make him Josh Allen, all of a sudden you have like,


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[Assistant] Maybe Russell sucks and you're stuck with it. And now like you've got like this insane upside prospect.


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[Assistant] And I'd say too, bridge, I like the idea, like I like Gino got paid, you know, did he get, did he get, you know, did he max out what he maybe could have gotten on the open market? I was to say, but you know, he got like just like Derek Carr, he signed that deal early before you're going to get this, like you're going to have to do everybody now focusing on Aaron Rogers, et cetera, et cetera. And like, like you're like, you know,


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[Assistant] Yeah, sometimes when you're comfortable somewhere and you feel like you had a great, you know, you feel like you broke out in Seattle, it's almost like you'd prefer to stay there rather than like go see, you know, like you've been in other places. So I think that, I think that makes a lot of sense for him to stay.


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[Assistant] Alright, there's a few guys we gotta talk about who did not get tagged. Uh oh. Plus.


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[Assistant] How did these tags and all these situations affect?


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[Assistant] Provisional betting odds, we'll tell you coming up next.


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[Assistant] So the franchise tag was not given out by every team. Some surprises. Uh, we saw, um, with the chiefs were dirty. They released Frank Clark, who's I think they're all time leading, uh,


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[Assistant] And the Chiefs winning multiple Super Bowls and they did not tag Orlando Brown, which frankly surprised me a ton. They're left tackle. They traded for him from Baltimore a few years ago. Um, been, he's been fantastic. Was incredible in the Superbowl against an Eagles pass rush that the third most sacks of all time. It didn't sack Patrick Mahomes once and you know, Brown,


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[Assistant] Was playing on the tag, so it would have been expensive, potentially prohibited Brady. Uh, did either of those moves surprise you or does this seem like Casey sort of, you know, knowing what they got to do to take care of business?


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[Assistant] Well, and the other thing I would say too, like I know Brady made the Patriots reference as like, but I think maybe the, the better comp could even be the Peyton Manning era Broncos where it was like, cause with the Patriots, you know, you would have people who wanted to come play for the Pats as free agents. And, but with the, with that Broncos team, it was like Peyton's like, Hey, look,


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[Assistant] Yeah, pilot on and people, I mean, people flooded to Denver because they knew that Peyton gave him a chance to win the Superbowl. Um, and with the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Like, you're there every year. I mean, they've been in the AFC championship game every year Patrick Mahone just started. So, uh, certainly a, uh, you know, you could play a little bit of chicken and use some of your leverage out there in the market.


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[Assistant] And Brown's still very much, you know, in his prime and clearly a high level player who should see a pretty good, pretty robust market. The other team in the Super Bowl, Philadelphia Eagles, did not franchise tag a single player.


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[Assistant] We thought they might hit, uh, Chelsea Gardner Johnson, or maybe even James Bradbury. They declined to do so Brady, uh, surprised to see the Eagles staying away.


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[Assistant] Well, and you've got, you know, same shame staking twos with the cult. So like, you know, these guys, this is that wouldn't, that would not be an unusual, uh, at a circumstances whatsoever. If.


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[Assistant] These guys who are on the team and playing for the various, you know, like you have the two coordinators who leave and get hired as a result of, you know, getting to the super bowl. And then you have these guys like they're in free agency guys, new coaches want to get players that they know to come in and help to try to establish their cultures. That's, that's, I think that's a great point. Those that may be a little more tough, more difficult to retain these guys in free agency, knowing that those coordinators.


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[Assistant] All right. Let's take a look at some divisional odds and how these various moves affected them. Looking at of course, Caesar's where we always get our odds from.


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[Assistant] If Billy can bring up the first set, I think we'll go with NFC East. I can look at it myself. Sorry about that. Uhm, you know, we're going to be completely smooth.


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[Assistant] All right, let's see West. We'll go there. So the 49ers still the favorites.


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[Assistant] At minus, uh, 160. Wow. It's pretty, pretty steep grams at three to one. And the Seahawks who just signed Gina Smith at five to one, the card was all the way down there at 17 to one. Uh, I don't know that the Gina Smith signing necessarily moves the needle on these odds.


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[Assistant] Tremendously. I think with the Seahawks, it'll probably be more about what do they do with those two first round draft picks because we saw how well, you know, how much that impacted them last year. They go out and get like two studs and you know.


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[Assistant] If they draft a quarterback at five, it won't shrink their odds, right? Because we don't think that quarterback is going to play. So I guess, I guess what I'm saying is.


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[Assistant] How do we think that this, you know, do you think that the Gina Smith thing moved the needle at all here?


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[Assistant] Bills bills and even money bills and even money fields. Oh, this is the Aaron Rodgers effect. So the rumor is currently right now that Aaron Rodgers.


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[Assistant] Or there's another rumor, Aaron Rodgers, I mean, like, I think at this point we're just taking his fact. Aaron Rodgers is meeting with the, meeting with the Jets, right? I mean, like enough people have reported this is just happening. Even if Aaron Rodgers says no one, no one knows what he's actually doing. He's meeting with the Jets and as a result,


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[Assistant] With the belief being that Aaron Rodgers is going to go to the Jets. The bills are even money to win this division, which.


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[Assistant] I mean, give me the bills and even money to win this division all day long, even with Rogers in New York, the Jets at plus 240, Dolphins at plus 450, and then the Patriots, the dead last team in this division, Brady, which is, I don't, I don't blame odds makers. It's just kind of wild to see.


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[Assistant] Plus one, the bill's probably gonna like plus 120 and the, and the jet's gonna like plus 150.


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[Assistant] And like, in other words, like the Bills are the best team in that division are probably going to win it, but I don't know. I don't understand everybody. All right. What's up next? AFC North. AFC North. Very interesting. The Bengal.


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[Assistant] The big ones at plus 130, the Braves at plus 240, Browns at just around four to one of the Steelers at five and a half to one. I mean, again,


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[Assistant] It's difficult to, you know, to, to win a division in multiple years in a row, but with the Lamar Jackson stuff happening, I don't know that that's properly adjusted for what.


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[Assistant] What else do we need? Do we need to look at a few more? Scroll down to see who's next. Okay, here we go. So the HNC South, the Derek Cardinals moved the Saints to plus 135, the Panthers at plus 270.


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[Assistant] Especially when we've just heard, and this, look, this may be one of the situations too, where the odds makers in this particular case, especially with like it's conference attorney week, you know, like they're, they're moving the odds around like signings, but it's not free agency. So they're, and they all want to have these up. So they may not be aggressively adjusting these enough. Like, like I would guess that these odds are not adjusted to.


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[Assistant] The news that the Panthers and the Falcons are not going to pursue Lamar Jackson. Like if we believe those reports, all of a sudden you now have.


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[Assistant] Jack's too low for the Jaguars. We, uh, we can revisit ASC South. I mean.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you could. The NFC South, however, look at that. You tag Tony Pollard, you go down to plus one Haiti. Uh, the giants, the giants don't appear to have the same one. Barkley and Daniel Jones news doesn't appear to have.


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[Assistant] Alright, I mean, if you lose Daniel Jones, maybe the Giants are closer to 10 to 1.


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[Assistant] Is it worth a 10 to 1 stab on Washington if they went out and got Lamar?


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[Assistant] They would probably come down like eight to one or something like that. It's just like the total uncertainty. A quarterback makes it really, really difficult. Um, okay. AFC West cheese are still too cheap.


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[Assistant] He should be minus 200 every year to win this division. Russell Wilson. I mean, I don't hate Sean Payne and Russell Wilson at all, obviously, but.


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[Assistant] No, and like this number of breach, I think reflects the idea that we've heard a lot of speculation that Rogers and the Raiders is not going to be a thing.


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[Assistant] Do we have any, do we have any division? I can't keep track. NFC North, one more, last one.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, five to, I mean, I have no interest in the bears at five to one. If they were like 10 to one, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be opposed to it. The Vikings to me stands out as pretty obvious. And like what if Aaron Rogers isn't traded?


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[Assistant] Now the reports are that, you know, there was a rumor that the Packers are herping. He comes back and it's like, I don't want to play anymore or I don't want to play here anymore. And they're like, cool, we'll trade you.


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[Assistant] But if Aaron Rogers gets, it comes back to the Packers, they're a lot closer. They're probably the favorites.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's, I think it was a, a hedge. They don't want to make it five to one plus. And then like Rogers comes back and just get obliterated, but you don't want to make it. Cause if you move it down to like.


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[Assistant] You know, where the Rogers numbers should be, which would be like plus 120.


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[Assistant] Dumb. Okay. That's it. That's all the divisions. It's tough.


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[Assistant] Alright, that'll do it for us. Thanks for watching, thanks for listening. For Brady, for Preach, I'm Brinson. Bears, Beats, Battlestar Galactica. See you guys later.


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[Assistant] Uhm, this is a, what's up everybody by the way, this is the best tournament I think I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] My alma mater was UNC Greensboro and I covered basketball there. And when I was at UNCG was when Steph was at Davidson. So I would have to go down to Davidson and cover Steph in college.


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[Assistant] Which, yeah, like 1200 person gym, like watching Steph Curry, see Davidson basketball, see Davidson basketball gym. Uh, it's, it's very small. Cause Davidson's like a,


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[Assistant] Uhm, the John and Belcarina capacity of 5,000 people. So like, but still, I mean, Steph Curry lighting up a 5,000 purpose.


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[Assistant] And I hate to do this to you as a, you know, here Kentucky guy, but you sort of wonder if this won't be the new norm given NIL and transfer portal and all that.


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[Assistant] These guys are outrageous. Not you specifically. They're like, I mean, it's just time to get Cal out of here. It's like dude, he's got a lifetime contract. He's off.


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[Assistant] Winning it all in the bracket, and I was uhm, I was actually boxed out in both the bracket pools I was in somehow, even though I had like Kodzaga and Yukon, Yukon in the final 4-1 and then Kodzaga in the other.


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[Assistant] And I stood to make some pretty decent cash if Texas just doesn't poop their pants up 13, uh, against Miami. But you know, I'm happy for my boy, Jim Rrrrrranega El Tiltay.


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[Assistant] He added a tilde to his name when he moved to Miami. I said this last week, right?


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[Assistant] And when he, because he's Cuban descendant, nobody knew it until he went to Miami. That's why I took the Miami job. He loves it down there so much and like his family's from there. And so he, he, when he took the Miami job, he's like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I have, uh, I bet, uh, actually I'm changing my name I think right now. Let's see, did that work? Did I add it to, I added a tilde to my name too. Uhm, look at that. Check it out. I actually have a ticket to San Diego State to win the title at 55 to 1.


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[Assistant] Uh, being that serious, I'm the foremost San Diego State fan on the East coast.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I'm always on there and I've been, I was a huge fan of, um, Donald Pumphrey when he ran, when he was a, when he was a running back for state of your state.


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[Assistant] And obviously they've had like a bunch of good guys and so I've just always been an Aztec fan. And uhm, to bet I'm gonna make it pull it off.


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[Assistant] I've actually gotta do a, uh, my first mock draft comes out tomorrow.


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[Assistant] It's actually going to be a half around. It's half around. It's a lottery draft. Uhm, no, I'm actually, uh, I mean, I'm, I'm feeling, I'm feeling grateful. And not just because I'm wearing this awesome, grateful dead hat, uh, made by, uh, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] I'll find the names of the guys, but uhm, I think it's like black-throated mercantiles, maybe, who do it, who do great hats, just check it out on Instagram. But uhm, also because I'm grateful for Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] Coming out and making it public that he's requested a trade the day before my mock draft because as long time diva David Hayes of my mock draft works are fully aware. I'm the foremost, not just say your state East Coast fan, but also the foremost


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[Assistant] My virtue of a mock draft, like the rumor actually starts swirling.


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[Assistant] Lamar's getting traded tomorrow morning. Where he's getting traded, you'll have to wait and click to find out.


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[Assistant] Well, it gets a little interesting here too now because this has gone from Lamar is franchise tagged and would be willing to consider other options too.


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[Assistant] That means that he's done with Baltimore. There's a reason why he's not negotiating with them. There's a reason why he doesn't want to sign their offer. So.


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[Assistant] And they give up two first round picks. Obviously if the, if the, if the bar signs it and the Ravens don't match, but the Ravens have the chance to match. However, if you're Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Can you justify matching this offer sheet when Lamar has already said, I don't want to play for your team and I do not want to sign this particular contract. I don't know that you can, but, and I don't know what the machinations of that would be if they like, in other words, like you don't put together an offer sheet.


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[Assistant] Like you don't match an offer sheet for a player who doesn't want to be on your team. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Like if Lamar is like decided, I don't want to play in Baltimore anymore. I'm over it with the Casa. I'm over it with Biscotti whose name I mispronounced to call like the Delta cracker all the time.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm over it with, I'm over it with Harbaugh, I'm over it with these receivers, I'm over it with the whole thing in Baltimore. And that's just prerogative, right?


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[Assistant] You know, I was, I was, I was on a 1067 fan in Baltimore, I mean, excuse me, in DC, uh, talking about Lamar with my buddy, JP Finley, friend of the podcast and, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, we're just, we're sort of discussing it was like, you know, Lamar sort of done herself a disservice over the last few weeks because I think up until this trade.


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[Assistant] Agents are, for better for worse, very good at leaking out information that will help the player, right? And, you know, I talked about the metacritical stuff with Aaron Rodgers and


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[Assistant] Well, Lamar has the same ability via Twitter, but he, you know, just for whatever reason, his message and what he's trying to tell, tell the world about what his situation is has not come through.


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[Assistant] I know that there's people going to be asked about this. So he jumped out in front of it and said, I asked for a trade on March 2nd.


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[Assistant] You know, you just have to take him for his word at that, right? That he, that he actually did it. And so I think now again, sort of like the Roger stuff, it's just a little bit of the,


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[Assistant] The onus onto the team to say, okay, you know, you allowed this to like, you know, you allowed this to get here.


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[Assistant] You know, you could have signed Lamar to a contract. You could, if you believe Lamar is a, you know, an MVP caliber quarterback, if he's a franchise quarterback, you could have stopped this from happening. You had that ability because.


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[Assistant] There's a number he'll take, right? And instead Lamar wants out of Baltimore and that becomes a really tricky situation for the team if he is actually not posturing and he does want to play somewhere else.


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[Assistant] To your point, Josh, it, it is different. You know, we, I, I read that article ripping teens for, you know, like alleging, like claiming like the possibility of collusion or whatever.


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[Assistant] That changes things because these teams do not want to negotiate for the Ravens.