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[Assistant] It's, it's, to me, the look is, it looks good. I love the way he looks. First, first, down seven nothing, right? Cardinals went right down on the first drive and you went, oh shit, they're, they're gonna blow Jacksonville out. Man, nine plays, 74 yard drive to answer and,


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[Assistant] The touchdown pass he throws in the back left of the endzone to DJ Shark was


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[Assistant] Awesome freaking play. He started out looking to his right. He went all the way across the field with reads, didn't panic in the pocket and then threw an unbelievable ball in the back left corner. Just touchdown. Next drive. Okay. I think it was the next drive. It was the next drive. They drive right down again. Trevor Lawrence throws an interception, not an interception.


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[Assistant] Receiver dropped an easy ball right in his gut, right? So there they could have been up 14-7, 10-7 early, uh, you know, either way they go in at halftime. But listen, I like the way he looks. I do. It's a little bit of what I'll say, you know, again, it's just not going to be perfect. He's making adjustments. The one thing he has a little bit more than Zach Wilson right now is,


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[Assistant] I think a little bit of a run game to worry about. And there are a few, he's got a few receivers that like Marvin Jones and DJ Shark, you have to respect them. They can run by most DBs in football. So he does have that element. So we'll see where it goes. But again, the way Trevor Lawrence looks, I'm not worried about him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think so too. I do. Because that, that, everybody sees us that line. Yes. The picks I think are the, are the one too. You know, the pressure, when you're getting hit and sacked and all that, you know, first off I think Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence are tough as hell. Exactly. Just like Mac Jones and Justin Fields are tough as hell. Right.


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[Assistant] But as a quarterback, I think you can sometimes just chalk it up to like, well damn, I can't block the guy. Right. I can't, I can't do that.


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[Assistant] You know, hopefully, you know, like you talked about a minute ago, yeah, you want to still keep your eyes down the field and not let it affect that. But the interceptions, yeah, can make you gun shy.


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[Assistant] Or you start to worry about as you're throwing the ball, you're like, Oh, I threw a pick and I'm throwing this down the middle and he's open, but it's a little tight, you know, and it can make you flinch or maybe just choke at the last second to where you don't throw the ball quite the way you want it.


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[Assistant] And again, these are rookies. Like, Aaron Rodgers lost that in week one. And like, a little bit, I mean the start of the first half against Detroit. But what happened? All of a sudden he threw a few laser beams into some tight coverages and was complete in a big play. And now he's like,


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[Assistant] Unstoppable. It doesn't matter. Oh, he's covered down the middle by Fred Warner. Don't worry. I'll throw the most perfect touch pass down the middle of the field. And that's, you get confidence off of that to your point. And yeah, these guys, they don't, they're not there yet. They're not there yet. And their teams aren't there yet to help them out that way either.


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[Assistant] Oh, well, I mean, it's been tough every week so far. Maybe you shouldn't have played? Uh, it's hard to say. It's hard to say? Listen, I think I saw a thing after the game, like, Frank Reich basically said, like, uh,


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[Assistant] 80 or 90% Carson Wentz was best option we have. So okay, I can respect that. They don't trust Jacob Eason. You can tell.


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[Assistant] You know, and then Brett Hunley, you know, he's new there and everything, so maybe they don't feel like he's up to speed with the offense and everything that way as well.


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[Assistant] That's all I can come to, but it's the same issues we saw.


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[Assistant] You know, this game's a little misleading, 20, 25 to 16, and I go,


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[Assistant] You know, Harold Landry's just, he's a man on the edge of the defense. That's the one thing. Not that he's ever gonna be like the 12 or 14 sacks of the, you know, a year type of guy, but like a Mike Vrabel.


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[Assistant] He's gonna, he's gonna dominate the guy in front of him in the run game. He knows how to push the pocket. He's athletic enough to win with the speed rush and do that at times too. But just a really good all around football player that you would expect Mike Vrabel to have on the end of his defensive line. So really cool to see there. But yeah, I don't think, you know, I don't feel, Tennessee to me is,


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[Assistant] If they get the defense right, they got enough playmakers on offense, and you know what I think of Henry and Tannehill, to where I just go, you know, they're another team, yea, right now, what are they, two and one, where I go, watch out. And that's easily the best team in the division. I think so, without a doubt. Yea. Yea, I mean, there's, the cults as you see, not protecting the ball well,


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[Assistant] And to me, you've heard me say this all year, they, they miss a player or two on both sides of the ball again in a close league to who's going to make a play in a big moment to get you over the hump. It can't just always be Carson Wentz having to gut it out for a wall seven yard completion over the middle.


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[Assistant] Incredible. He's such a weapon for them.


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[Assistant] At the end of the game, at the end of the halves, I mean, all, all game. I mean, you just know, like, hey, if we get around the 40.


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[Assistant] We're guaranteed to get three with this guy. 57 is all, he's almost all day with that shit. I've never seen anything, I've never seen a guy where I felt more confident every time he gets up there to go, oh, 55 yards for Justin Tucker? No problem. He's gonna knock it right down the middle. It's not gonna waver or anything, you're just gonna go, as soon as it leaves his foot, you're gonna go,


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[Assistant] I was like, oh my gosh, he made it. And then it hit the bar and I went, oh my gosh, he's going to miss it. And it went, I mean, it reached the net in the back there. I mean, that was unbelievable moment. Unbelievable. The Raven, let me just hit on that real quick. You know, the Ravens, you know, obviously down there, right? But man.


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[Assistant] I still felt like when they left a lot of plays and points on the board. I mean, Hollywood Brown, he was Bollywood Brown yesterday. It was Bollywood. I mean, he dropped, I'm gonna say, at least one touchdown, two other ones that are like,


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[Assistant] If it's not a touchdown, they're going down to the four or five yard line. Yeah. Right. So, uh, they blew some opportunities there and give Detroit credit. Yeah. They just hung around and I felt so bad for Dan Campbell. Oh my gosh. I was as bad as I felt for a coach in a long time because he's thinking, wait, it's fourth and 19. We got him.


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[Assistant] It was like another split, and then another split, and then after. It was. It was. I think we were even being nice on Football Night in America by putting 1.57. I really do. I think it was more.


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[Assistant] We had somebody in the back room kind of slowing it down, and really so it could keep track of the time, like, it was, it was closer to two. Yeah. It really was, it was almost a full two count.


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[Assistant] Of, and, and that, yeaah, that was egregious. That's the game. Of course, that is a game. That is the game. Because, yeaah, it's gonna be five yards back farther. You're not gonna be able to hit a 71 yard field goal. He wasn't gonna make it from 67. And, yeaah, right, right. He wasn't gonna make it from 67. Exactly right. So that was huge. That really was. Uh, Ravens got lucky on that one. There's no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] You were there on the sideline, right? I was on the sidelines. I can still remember. I thought it was longer than that. And what did he do? Is that the one where Flacco threw the ball down the right sideline to Derrick Mason?


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[Assistant] See, it seemed a taut heap. Okay. I can still remember. Yeaah. I mean that to me, you know, I was not even playing, but still.


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[Assistant] The most crushing loss. Similar. It just, it just killed it because it was, we were the best team in the, I think we were the best team in football that year. Really. Pittsburgh won the Super Bowl. We were the home field advantage that year.


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[Assistant] We had beat Pittsburgh a few weeks before, 33 to 14 at home and like week 15 to win the number one spot. You had Kerry Collins. Kerry Collins, an unbelievable offensive line. You know, CJ 2K.


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[Assistant] I'm missing somebody else, but either way, and a really good defense with Vanden Bosch and Albert Hainsworth and Keith Bullock and Michael Griffin and Cortland Finnegan. It was a really damn good team.


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[Assistant] Let's see, I can't even remember my damn headline here.


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[Assistant] Oh, duh. Duh. I've already talked about this with Pete, and I should have wrote these down, alright? You should. But, Viva Las Vegas? Yes. Viva Las Vegas. There's your song. I mean, rolling the, I mean, first off, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I know, right? You don't win that often when you throw a pick six. No. Pick six, then get the ball the next drive, get stopped on a fourth and short. That leads to, you know, more points for the Miami, the Miami Dolphins. They're up 14, nothing early.


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[Assistant] Uh, just, yeaah, I just, I can't say enough about Derek Carr, his play.


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[Assistant] And the Dolphins, you know, yeaah, I got questions about them, their offense, Jacoby Brousset, but you've given them a short field, one, off the fourth down, and now,


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[Assistant] It's the weirdest safety I've ever seen. It's the weirdest safety I've ever seen. He looks down field and then throws a ball to the left, and I think it was Waddle, in his own end zone, and he gets tackled. A completion safety? That's like really rare, and I can't even think of one that's ever happening, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, and really the game was never the same after that. Cause of course then they kicked the field goal, Vegas went down, got a field, I mean Vegas got the ball after that, they kicked the field goal, and really controlled the game, and you thought, man, Miami has no chance of winning this game.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know. Let's just look at it real quick. I mean, he's, he's definitely playing quarterback at a top five level in football. There's, there's no.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, he's, he's in the MVP conversation and he's in the special list of people we've talked about today already. I think where you go, Stafford, Herbert, like you've mentioned a few times, Josh Allen. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And so he was 14 for me, and Derek Carr. Yea, I mean yea, if I had to re-rank him right now, he certainly would be a big, big jump up from 14.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we'll see where it goes. We really will. I mean, I don't think it's gonna falter much with Derek Carr. I don't. I think he's got the offense, he's got weapons. I would be shocked if like his play really falters.


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[Assistant] A hundred percent sold on the Raiders yet as like being an AFC power. No, I don't think I am quite yet. Hell of a September though. Hell of a September. Yeah, defense is a lot better. Yes. Play tough as hell. We saw the run game going a little yesterday.


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[Assistant] But there's a lot to like and respect about what they're doing. Yeah, I mean, three great wins, but like it's also like, you know, again, we're a little bit of an area right now of like, I'm not exactly sure what the AFC is exactly yet. Like, yeah, I still think Kansas City is good and we know the Chargers are good.


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[Assistant] But, you know, yeaah, Buffalo, Tennessee, two and one, I think, okay, I, I know they're good. Broncos are unbeaten. Yeaah, so there's still a lot of like, you know, but like, the Raiders, yeaah, they, they beat the Steelers. So the Steelers, okay, I mean, they don't look that special. Right. The Ravens, like we talked about, they beat them in week one. I mean, the Ravens could be 0 and 3, very easily.


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[Assistant] And the Dolphins, I think, are kind of finding their way and have been offensively challenged through three weeks as well. So I don't mean to put a damper on the Raiders' parade. I just, I'm saying I want to see a little bit more before I go. A lot of figuring out how to do it in the AFC. They're a top two or three team in the AFC. I'm not ready to say that yet. The Patriots are probably better than a one and two team.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Pete, you gotta help me out, getting my finger here. That could be the headline. I mean, I can't remember all of them off the top of my head.


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[Assistant] There we go. Duh. I forgot. It's my best one of the day. It's time to replace the clock.


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[Assistant] It's like, you know, one, we know the physical skills are diminishing, yes, but it's also like...


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[Assistant] I don't trust him either. I don't trust him. You don't know what he's going to do with the football. What else are they going to do though? I mean, I don't know. I mean, yeaah. I mean, Mason Rudolph? I mean, Haskins is there too, right? It sounds like Rudolph is going to get the first right to be the backup.


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[Assistant] You know my thoughts on him. I clearly think Dwayne Haskins is more talented, but


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[Assistant] I don't think they're gonna go there yet with that conversation with Big Ben, but man, you got another one or two games that have looked like they have the last few weeks. They're, they're, they're, they're gonna have to have that conversation.


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[Assistant] No, they haven't. And what we've seen really, you know, again, is like, like, uh, you know, week one and week two, they just can't really run the ball, but consistency, the pass games all over the place, you know, there's never, you know, just any,


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[Assistant] Surgical aspect of the drop back pass game where I go, oh man, they're in a rhythm here. You go six yards, seven yards, 10 yards, six yards, two yards, boom, boom, boom. There's never any of that.


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[Assistant] It's, uh, it's, it's not good. And it's why I picked the Bengals to win the football game. The Bengals' defense is good. They are good. Doesn't get talked about a lot. No. I, their talent. They got a little, they got big guys in the middle. They can rush the passer a little bit. The secondary is one of the better secondaries in football. And, you know, offensively. Yes. They got it going.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, so like, you know, it's time to replace the clock or my other headline for this game would chase your...


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[Assistant] Preseason headline about the Bengals out the door because Jamar Chase is a baller. Yeah. He's a, again, he's a bust. It's preseason game number two. He's a bust. Well, let's let the guy play a little in the NFL.


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[Assistant] And what you're seeing already is, leaving man to man, you're rolling the dice. He is trouble. Cause that throw by Burrow at the end of the first half is like the true thing of, if he's even, he's leaving. Caught the bottom quarter of the ball, you see that? Right, caught the bottom quarter of the ball. When Joe threw the ball,


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[Assistant] He was like a step behind the DB. And then he sees the ball, and this is what great receivers do, they have another gear.


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[Assistant] Yes, and they've crushed that out the door. I mean, yes, we've seen big plays from Chase in all three games.


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[Assistant] If Seattle can't overwhelm you early on with their, we got a few game pan plays on offense and just our emotions and our, you know, our intensity and a few little different things on defense early in the game. If we just can't overwhelm you right there, man, we're going to hit a wall at some point and you'll be able to come back.


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[Assistant] And it's just, it's what they are right now. It's, it's big plays or nothing on offense. It's big plays or nothing on defense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, okay, so here's the first thing. You know, any great scheme, finally,


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[Assistant] Gets, you know, blown up to a degree. The, the bear defense with Buddy Ryan and 85 Bears. Yeah, that was cool for like two or three years.


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[Assistant] But then like, Joe Montana and Bill Walsh showed a few ways how to beat it, and all of a sudden it was like, whoa, this is how you do it. Dan Marino beat it. And then, you know, you start to see teams find a few things that are, like, expose it.


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[Assistant] And then everybody starts to copy it and find different ways to do those things.


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[Assistant] That's the other thing too. You can run the Seattle scheme back then too when you have the most talented defense in football.


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[Assistant] And it was still a scheme that was cutting edge. You know, let's go to Tampa 2 in Miami. I mean, in Tampa. I mean, it was the same thing. Yeah, Tampa 2. Cool scheme. Incredible talent.


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[Assistant] Right? Down there with that Buccaneers defense and Tony Dungy. And it was a little bit of like, whoa, how do we attack this? Slowly but surely, people started to build inventory on how to attack Tampa too. To the point where, at my end of my career in Tampa in 2005, we couldn't even


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[Assistant] That's where the Seattle scheme started, right there. Because Gus Bradley was down there with us and he started to play more cover 3. They started to go Tampa 2, everybody's got 25 plays to just gash us.


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[Assistant] Yeah, a whole off season. And a few defenses have copied us now. So you find that. So there's that aspect. But here's the other thing to our listener and the question. They don't really run Seattle Scheme a whole lot there anymore. They don't. They try to do bare fronts, 3-4 fronts. They're doing different things on the back end.


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[Assistant] The bottom line is, they're not good enough in Seattle. They're just, the talent is not good enough. This is where I was, you know, it's a lot of good, but there's no great. They have to blitz to get pressure. Their front four is not going to get it.


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[Assistant] They have to get pressure to cover because they can't cover in the back end. That's just, that's a bad combo. And you're seeing, they're getting gashed. Huge plays. The run, same thing with the run game. They're not good enough up front to just say, wait, we'll play a basic defense and we can stop your running. They gotta put, like, go back and watch the game.


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[Assistant] With the last two weeks, how many plays are eight and nine people at the line of scrimmage?


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[Assistant] 8 or 9, oh they should stop the run and there's a huge cutback lane because they're over aggressive or undisciplined. Or the, or the bootleg play action game. But yeah, Minnesota, you know, after getting down 17-7, they whooped that ass.


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[Assistant] Amazing. I mean, he really is. I mean, he's, he's not like ever gonna make you just go, oh wow, oh my gosh, what an unreal play. That's one of the highlights of the year. No, it's not. But if you just give him


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[Assistant] You know, a little of the system, he's gonna make sure everything's right every play, and if people are open, he is gonna hit it. You know, and he's, he's, even if they're not open, if they're open by a, a hair, he's got incredible


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's not going to be a laser like Justin Herbert or Joss Allen, but it's still going to be damn good. And what I'm amazed about them is just how simple the formula is and it just works every week.


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[Assistant] The run game is special. They always have a few little wrinkles in the run game to keep you off their base stuff. So Clint Kubiak, great job there. I mean, really. And then...


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[Assistant] Time and time again. I mean, they, they, they, uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a team 1 and 2 could be 3 and 0 in a lot of ways. Certainly 2 and 1. And I'm not counting them out yet, just by the way they look. Zimmer, you know, once he got a feel for what the Seahawks were trying to do to him and his defense on that side of the ball, they slowed that attack down in a hurry.


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[Assistant] Damn, that hurt me yesterday. Which part of it? This is the offense struggling so much? Yeaah, just, and, and the ass-whooping they put on the Falcons in the first half. I mean, an ass-whooping. The Falcons couldn't do anything. And then there we go, going into halftime, and we're losing 7-6.


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[Assistant] I'm saying we, yeaah, I'm a Giants fan, period. I mean, that's, that's what I do. So that, that, that does, it hurts me, but yeaah, I think it's an ability to get in the end zone when you get down there. We've seen that two out of the three games, whether this Atlanta game or week one against Denver, uh,


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[Assistant] I just blundered a few mistakes here and there. And yea, defense maybe not being able to make that play to go, wait, okay, offense, you don't have to do it. Defense will make the play this week to kind of


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[Assistant] Put the nail in the coffin or help us, help us win this game. You know, they do a lot of good things on defense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, as we've talked about a little bit, the NFL's a lot about plays. It's hard to just go, we're gonna play sound football, we're gonna play sound football, and we'll play sound all game, and we'll win the game soundly. No, you won't.


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[Assistant] No you won't, because we've seen too many games here today, we've talked about where we go, one team was sound and sound and sound and sound and didn't totally capitalize, and they end up losing because the other team finally found a groove and made some plays and you go,


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[Assistant] We were winning for more than half the game and kinda controlling it, and now we're gonna lose. Are you, uh, thinking of losing? Are you losing confidence in Joe Judge?


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[Assistant] No, I'm not. I'm not losing confidence in Joe Judge. You know, I don't know what my overall thought of them is, you know, to trying to process this on the fly here.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they got screwed in week two. They should have won that game against Washington on Thursday night. And that's what happens. You blow an opportunity to win a football game and now here you are in another game where, yeah, it's a, it's a nail biter and you don't make the play or two to come through. I don't know. Like I, I look at it like this. I just go.


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[Assistant] I don't look at their games and go, man, they're out coached or they're doing stupid stuff or the game plan's not correct. You know, it just seems to be...


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[Assistant] You know, the inability to make that big play or when there's a gotta have it moment, they just don't seem to make it. You talked about when we started out there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was it. That's how it felt. You know, and I gotta go back and watch maybe to look, is there certain things they did wrong or whatever, but I, I'm just watching the game. I went, I really expected to like how I saw it early.


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[Assistant] Like, I just thought, okay, it'll be, instead of 6-0, it'll be 10-0. And then it'll be like 13-3. And then it'll be maybe, you know, 16-6. And they would just slowly wear down Atlanta. But they never made those plays or put them in a spot to do it, to speak for it. Exactly right.


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[Assistant] You let him hang around. Yeah, you let him hang around. And it's Matt Ryan, he's got, you know, Pitts and Calvin Ridley, got a few playmakers, and all of a sudden you go, shit.


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[Assistant] You know, what's his name dropping the, the interception in the end zone? Oh my gosh, yeaah. Um, Adorey Jackson, 14-7, I mean right in his chest, like that's what I mean, gotta have moments for two weeks in a row. They just haven't been able to, to kind of make that play.


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[Assistant] That'll be good. Uh, I'm expecting Dallas to win the football game.


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[Assistant] It's uh, it's in Dallas. It's their home opener. So that place will be rockin'. Uh, I think, you know, Philly, I would be shocked if they don't hang around and aren't a pain in the ass. You know, I just think they're, they're well coached and like we've talked about, they're good up front on both sides of the ball.


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[Assistant] You know, ultimately, just what we're seeing from the Cowboys, offensive line is good. They have a unit that's special. Their offense is special. Period.


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[Assistant] And when you have that special of a unit to where I look at the eagles and go, there's a lot of good, I don't know if there's one special.


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[Assistant] Unit yet that I can go, yes, they got that and it's gonna have to make the cowboys change.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't know that. So yeah, I'm going with the special unit and the fact that we saw Dallas run the ball a little last week. They obviously can protect and Dak Prescott is a baller and he's got ballers around him. So I expect them to win, you know, by a touchdown or so somewhere in that region.


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[Assistant] Pete will go through em. I'm not necessarily gonna do that. Pete will do it. But Pete will go through it and we'll figure out, we'll try to break down as much as we possibly can and if we got the right footage to show you, we'll do our best there. But I love doing that and please, I welcome the interaction between the fans.


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[Assistant] Man, all these times, the last two and a half years, I've come in here in a t-shirt and sat down like, God, I hope I'm not like way underdressed here. And Chris is like, why doesn't, you know, why doesn't he have a real shirt on and you have the t-shirt on? Yeah, baby. Well done. Yeah, baby. That's right.


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[Assistant] You know what else happens when you write things down, as I have 95 pages of shit I've written down, is that then you count on being able to find it. Yea, right. And it's like you're never gonna find it in the moment, so if you don't write it down, if you know you're counting on your mind and your recall, maybe that's


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[Assistant] Depends on who you are. Played by a king. Football. It's an Every Game Monday though.


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[Assistant] Monday we hit every single game during the season. We have a potpourri of all the sims signature, uh, segments. Damn okay, Victory Lab, Self Scout Thyself.


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[Assistant] So damn okay, I'm a little, I'm a little rusty with this cause I enjoy this throw. Yeaah. Cause I know you have a theme song here. Right. But you not.


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[Assistant] But this is not an original damn okay, but it, it certainly fits. You want to go to Lil' Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes? Yeah, let's do it. Right. Alright, knock it off the Browns, 33 to 29, and it was kind of a, a, a tale of two halves. Yes. Cleveland, and, and now that I'm in the, uh, predicting game and I said the Browns are going to be a Super Bowl team,


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[Assistant] I felt 10 feet tall in that first half. Sure. I was like the Browns. Yeah, I know what I'm doing. These guys are good.


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[Assistant] As long as we're thinking that way about the Cleveland defense and what they did or, uh, better yet did not do. This is from ZeC12. He says, how does Brown's DC Joe Woods get the personnel to defend the pass for Cleveland, but then doesn't use them and plays three linebackers against Mahomes?


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[Assistant] One play really changed that game. Patrick Mahomes, it was a phenomenal athletic play by Mahomes. He does it five or six times a game. Rollin' to the right.


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[Assistant] I think it is special in quarterback. Pete, Christine, can we run this graphic on Mahomes? I saw it a little bit yesterday, but it is worth seeing again. This is phenomenal. He's played 11 games in September in his career.


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[Assistant] 35 touchdowns, zero interceptions, and they haven't lost. Like, that's just stupid. You add up picks and games lost, and 11 games in that month, zero. That's impossible.


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[Assistant] First half was so much fun to watch and how courageous the play calling was. With, I mean, people were saying, oh, he's just trying to keep up with the Chiefs. I think it was Moore Stefanski's belief in his quarterback and his system, no matter who they're playing.


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[Assistant] Nothing but positives for the NFC West as they will take over here the damn okay. Before you get into what you liked about Russell Wilson in the Seahawks win over the Colts 28-16, his numbers, I mean just 18 out of 23, 254, four touchdowns, no picks, and the highlights were fantastic. These weren't easy throws.


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[Assistant] Deep balls, right on the money. Uh, Russell Wilson deserves this spot here. Yeah, he does.


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[Assistant] I don't know if there was a new part of this season we were looking forward to more, had more anticipation, not only at this desk, but nationwide. Yeaah. For the Sean McVay, Matthew Stafford combo. Right. And what they would be able to do. An offense that was always pretty good. Yeaah. What kind of a step it would take. Right. You've got one example, 34-14 win over the Bears, first reaction.


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[Assistant] I thought they kept it in check, too, with the play calling. I mean, you think about the places on the field Stafford can get it, that the big base never had. We saw it early in the game, that when he threw 65-70 yards in the air, just a little flick, so pretty. Such an example of what we talked about the last few months. He can put the ball in the field where


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[Assistant] They couldn't get it to them these last few years. So number one, but then they didn't go crazy with it. I mean, I wouldn't have been surprised to see McVeigh throw it 48, 50 times. He was 20 out of 26. Very efficient, very under control.


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[Assistant] We devoted so much of the offseason talking about Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah. I want to hear your thoughts on his 17 out of 25, 314, one touchdown, no pick performance.


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[Assistant] 41-33 team. Game before this, we talked about the Bears, uh, so I want to bring in Justin Fields, the little bit of a role he played there, tied in with Trey Lance, the kind of small role he played as both coaches sprinkled in the rookie quarterbacks. Question from at D Raju. He says, what's your take on San Francisco and Chicago throwing in the rookie quarterbacks here and there throughout the game?


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[Assistant] Should there be pushback from Jimmy and Andy, how much does it affect their rhythm?


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[Assistant] His default will be going underneath. Yeaah. And throwing the safer throw. And you've heard me complain the last couple years about Matt Nagy's offense being having 95 ways to pick up 4 yards on a pass completion.


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[Assistant] It's not going to be obvious, like, get this guy out of here, he stinks. No, exactly right. It's just the offense is going to be okay. Okay. And they need it for me to be more than okay. Yes. And they've got this rookie over there that everybody thinks can do some different things. Yeah, that's right. And people want to get a peek at that.


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[Assistant] We have saved the best damn okay for last. We go elsewhere in the NFC West to Kyler Murray and the Cardinals. Holy shitballs, Batman. Holy cow. 38-13 over the Titans. To set this one up guys, can we roll that, the uh, the five theme there with Kyler Murray?


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[Assistant] Chandler Jones, five sacks for Chandler Jones. Way to go. Tied a franchise record for sacks in a single game. And Caller Murray, five total touchdowns for passing.


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[Assistant] And one running. My question to you. Again, another topic we spent a lot of time talking about. You wanted to see.


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[Assistant] More help for Kyler. Yes. From the scheme and the offense and the play calling.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. There's like. The athleticism at linebacker and safety. Yes. Is. They could like interchange those dudes. Right. Right. Really looks different. It's different.


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[Assistant] I love your point on the defense. I want to make, I want to back up to the offense one more time here for Kyler Murray. I spent a lot of time with this game this morning because I figured with, with your interest in their offense and how maybe it would look different with how well they played yesterday, I wanted to be on top of it. There was a point of the second quarter, okay, it was 17-6.


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[Assistant] There's a third down in ten for the Arizona office. Okay, so Kyler Murray drops back.


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[Assistant] And he set up, and like he had eyes in the back of his head, someone was coming for him from like a 20 yard sprint, just stepped back a little bit, made a miss, found somebody down the sideline to convert him to a third and sixth. Like a phenomenal, as you said, magic play by Kyler Murray that we've kind of come to expect. Same drive, there was a third and sixth, this was a different kind of Kyler play, stayed in the pocket,


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[Assistant] And it came moments after he made a play like, well, no one else in the league can make that play.


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[Assistant] We just had this, we just kinda had this conversation a week or two ago when we were going through the over-unders. I know. I got to the NFC West, I'm like,


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[Assistant] I, I, I feel like everyone's gonna hit the over. I mean. Except Arizona.


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[Assistant] And let's, I should have mentioned this at the top. It's so easy to overreact in week one because we've been waiting for football for so long. It was so much fun to have the fans out. That amplifies our feeling. So we try to have some perspective while reacting the way everybody else is reacting today to all the things that stood out. So self-scout thyself.


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[Assistant] Josh Allen, your number two quarterback. Bills didn't score a touchdown the second half. They scored one on offense the entire game. Got upset by the Steelers at home 23 to 16. A disappointing start. Any reason to worry about a regression there?


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[Assistant] They blitzed on the drop back 2 out of 54 plays yesterday. Doesn't mean they weren't doing crazy shit in the back end.


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[Assistant] Pittsburgh had under 100 yards total offense in the, in the, in the first half. Yeaah. I mean they, they struggled offensively right away.


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[Assistant] You mentioned the stat and you pointed out a good one. I want to go to the intangible a little bit with Pittsburgh. You know the focus of this right now is Buffalo.


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[Assistant] But this was so not your garden variety win for Pittsburgh. Think about it, going on the road to a team that's a popular, legitimate Super Bowl pick. Most people think Pittsburgh was the bottom half of the AFC North. And who knows, maybe they still are coming into the season.


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[Assistant] And even though they had the winning record last year, people were like, you know what?


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[Assistant] Push that record aside, they sucked at the end of the year. See, all that going on, they go in there and come from behind and win at Buffalo. Think about how much different they feel walking into their facility now as opposed to when that happened yesterday. I mean, whatever that feeling is and however you want to label it, I think they got an injection of that from yesterday more than anybody else.


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[Assistant] Five touchdown passes. Through twenty passes, Chris. Not a single sack. Didn't take a sack. Didn't throw a single pick.


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[Assistant] You seem very confident the conversation before that the Josh Allen, hey, you know, one, you know, one, one off game for this offense, this team is going to be just fine. Even though they scored one touchdown on offense. Do you have the same level of confidence that the Packers after a horrible game one performance will be okay as the season gets longer?


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[Assistant] I think they're under, and we had a big conversation about this last week, was like 10 and a half? Right, I think so. Is that, and we were like, holy shit, of course they're gonna blow past 10 and a half wins. Right. Would you back off that at all?


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[Assistant] I know you're going to spend more time with that and kind of get a good feel for what didn't happen for Green Bay. You go in to sit down and watch that tape of Green Bay failing against New Orleans and Jacksonville. Do you go in thinking, okay, it's more Aaron Rodgers, it's more the receivers, it's more the scheme. Which one of those three do you go in most skeptical?


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[Assistant] And the best thing or favorite thing you saw from Sean Payton and Jameis Winston.


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[Assistant] Okay, we have one more here for the self-scout myself. To set this one up here, Chris, I've got a lot of people I don't know upset with me because I sit next to you. Oh, is that right? You know where we're going? No, I don't.


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[Assistant] Little, if we jumped on 95 and drove about two and a half hours south, what's the big city we'd be in? Philadelphia? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] People are, and just to, I mean, I think a lot of our listeners are, you know, with us all the time, so they know that you didn't have Jalen Hurts in your top 40 this offseason. So people are tweeting at me, they're angry with me, because I sit next to you, and he played well, and they think you didn't give him the proper respect in the offseason.


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[Assistant] One thing I want to point out here from my perspective on this side of the table, and this comes to, I sit here when you rank 1 through 40, and some of them are like, oh that's pretty low, or that's pretty high.


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[Assistant] One thing he does is, is put in the work, but the second thing is he's happy for everybody's success. And I know that from being around him for the last three years. So as much as people get angry, and let's just talk in the abstract about any kind of ranking, whether it's Jalen Hurts or anybody being too high or too low, I know that you go home and feel good about these guys when they play. You feel happy for them.


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[Assistant] Cause you have a perspective on how difficult it is to do that. Definitely. I mean, keep that in mind as you pat him on the back or hate him, whatever it is. I know that you are happy for these guys when they do well.


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[Assistant] Jacksonville got upset. I guess you can say upset by the Texans. And, uh, Zach Wilson started out really slow. I thought he had some really impressive moments later in the game. Let's start with Trevor Lawrence. Three touchdowns, three picks, a lot of yards, a lot of bad plays. Is this going to be in his rookie season?


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[Assistant] Uh, Zach Wilson, uh, the Panthers beat the Jets 19-14. So Zach Wilson, the finishing number is 20 out of 37, 256. Two touchdowns and a pick. He started out 2 for 10. Yeaah. First half was a struggle. Right. Second half, you're like, sit up in your chair a little bit, like, that's, that's what we saw. Yeaah. To make him the second overall pick.


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[Assistant] And if you're a quarterback and you see this time after time again, how do you like McCaffrey against the linebacker? Let me think about that.


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[Assistant] Giants, losing 27 to 13 to the Broncos. Nice job, Teddy Bridgewater. Nice job, Broncos defense.


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[Assistant] I want to point out that Daniel Jones, 30 fumbles in 28 games, only Tony Banks. Remember Tony Banks from Michigan State playing with the Rams? Only Tony Banks had more fumbles in his first 28 games. Another big one there yesterday. What do you think after game one?


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[Assistant] Alright, no victory for the Patriots, but can you, can we claim win? All of us, all of us who thought that Mack Jones should have been drafted even higher, that he'd be a success right away after his first performance against the Dolphins. Can you claim victory?


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[Assistant] An exciting watch, but a disappointing loss. This time he did all that and led the team to a win.


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[Assistant] We have a question here from at JP Finley, NBC Sports, uh, friend of the program, uh, friend of the family here. If Ryan Fitzpatrick misses significant time, he has a dislocated hip. It's a, it's the two injury. It's the two injury.


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[Assistant] Significant time for sure. How do you expect Taylor Heinecke to perform?


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[Assistant] Because you mentioned that they know him better than anybody else, I mean...


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[Assistant] If they know him and still really like him a lot, they could have signed him right now.


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[Assistant] So he's out at least three weeks, but if, if it's a hip, like even close to the two inch, I mean, that's, that is very significant.


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[Assistant] And a victory lap on Jamar Chase. The Bengals beat the Vikings in overtime 27-24. I may as well start with this from Jake. He says, Jamar Chase!


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[Assistant] Clearly the best rookie wideout on Sunday. Everyone was counting him out because of those drops in the preseason. Five receptions on seven targets, no drops, 101 yards and a long touchdown. Yeaah, great for Jamar.


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[Assistant] Yeah. You don't like the, you don't like the over-aggressive.


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[Assistant] How awesome was that? I mean, just like as a, I mean, I don't, I mean, I don't have anything for or against either one of these teams. Right. But how can you not pull for somebody that went through that bad injury and you're kind of keeping an extra eye, be like, boy, that'd be cool if he got off to a great start. Yeah. And he was terrific. Yeah, he was terrific. Looked comfortable. Good for him.


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[Assistant] And if they can run the ball a little like they did yesterday. There's a whole reason that Taken, uh, that Taken Chase made sense instead of the tackle, who did very well for Detroit yesterday, by the way, Peney Sewell. Right. Uh, but you know, having, having those guys outside and one inside as well, it's awesome. It is awesome. They, they,


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah baby, that was a good one. That was an all-timer right there. That was almost as good as Matt the W.


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[Assistant] I know. Black on black, man. Come on. I went grey. Yeaah. Next time. You're, it's alright. You're still one of the coolest 50 year olds I know, dress wise, without a doubt. As long as I can get you to say that to start each show.


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[Assistant] I think we are. I think we got some all 22 right here. Alright, so.


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[Assistant] So I was done with sugar for the day. I was thinking about your 41st birthday. I had you and Mike on this morning and today's the last morning of my house. The kids aren't up because school starts tomorrow. So I had it on full blast.


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[Assistant] I heard everything the first like 10 or 15 minutes. Right. Very nice gift of Mike to get you that jersey from Brian Piccolo. Crazy, right? Such a cool idea. Crazy. I was actually thinking because I saw online that it was your birthday.


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[Assistant] I should have gotten him a Bobby Stoops jersey because Bobby wore 41 in Iowa. All the Stoops brothers did. Tiny little connection between the two of you with your history there.


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[Assistant] All three of the Stoops Brothers were, and all three are real dudes just like you talked about. I know they are. They're all, you know, were kind of connected with Iowa when I was there. Right. And they just want to like have a Bud Light and talk football. No doubt.


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[Assistant] We will get into those over-unders and we're hitting the AFC today. And I'm going to remind you, I'll bring it up again, you did pretty well last year. Okay. So I'm kind of setting you up a little. Yeah. Cause the, the, the bar was set with the winning record for your picks last year. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I did pretty solid last year. I did. And I think


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[Assistant] So that's coming. Let's start with some quarterback stuff. The preseason has been nice to us.


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[Assistant] Giving us some real quarterback issues. We're not even fabricating here. No. Some things going on. Let's start with the 49ers. Yeah. And Jimmy Garoppolo and Trey Lance traded off like during drives.


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[Assistant] Over the weekend. Yes. That was new. That was unexpected. So I'm gonna ultimately ask you what you would do there. Right. In each one of these situations, but what did you think about that mix and how Kyle played that?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Right? I mean that was under 50% yesterday. Under 50%. In the preseason.


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[Assistant] A couple of things, if you're, if you're not watching with us, if you just listen, we just ran the graphic of what they both did during the three preseason games. Garoppolo, I think 10 for 16, basic but efficient.


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[Assistant] Trey Lance, not only under 50% yesterday, 6 out of 13, he's under 50% the entire preseason. Exactly right.


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[Assistant] At times, and I think you've done a nice job of pointing this out, the last couple of seasons we've been doing this, numbers don't mean everything. They can be misleading. But in the preseason, if your quarterback's less than 50%, it's at least a little bit of a red flag. No doubt. Another one that jumps out to me, and no matter what kind of offensive team is running, I'd love to look at yards per attempt.


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[Assistant] Through the ball 13 times yesterday for 46 yards. Yeah. In any offense, whether it's August or December.


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[Assistant] That's really bad. You don't call 13 passes to average less than 4 times per those attempts.


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[Assistant] Yeah, 3.5 yards per attempt. 3.5 yards, as Pete chimes in. Yeah, exactly Pete, thank you for that. So, I agree you can't start him. You think this might be the start of something though, using both of them. Do you think it'll be as extreme, as radical, as like,


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[Assistant] During the same series? Or from one series to the next? Or just like, okay, he's gonna play two series in this game. Maybe one in the first, maybe one in the third. How do you see that playing out?


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[Assistant] I think it would be best case scenario for Tray Lance. Like what? I don't have to have the entire game? I can come in and just do my thing? Yeaah, awesome, thank you. Sign me up. If you're Garoppolo, you're a veteran, if you're 3 out of 4, you don't want to see that other guy come jogging in.


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[Assistant] I think it's fun to think about. I didn't think of this as an option. You and I did talk last week about the possibility of Trey playing a couple three series in the traditional way, even though it doesn't happen much if you think about quarterback sharing time. I never thought about them playing on the same series. And one of my first thoughts was, okay, Chris has made this point that


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[Assistant] It's over. This, this thinking that you're screwing with a D coordinator by playing a running quarterback. There are running quarterbacks all over the league. This isn't ten years ago. This isn't four years ago. They're used to this. But, if you reshuffle the deck and say,


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[Assistant] Okay, I understand that. I understand if we roll out Trey in the second quarter, it's not really a surprise to you, and you're used to playing against running quarterbacks. If you do it throughout a series, that hasn't been done. That's new, and that may indeed


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[Assistant] To me, the risk comes down to one person. Yeaah. And I believe Kyle Shanahan would have a great time and pull it off. Yeaah. As I said, I think it's best case scenario for Trey Lance.


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[Assistant] And I think the entire team will be, would buy into it. I think they'd be excited about it. One person I think will make this work or not work if, if they do it. And that's Jimmy Garoppolo. It's so against what a guy who's almost 30 years old with that many starts wants to do.


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[Assistant] It's a fun one. It is a fun one. There's a lot of predictability in the preseason, and even though, you know, the storyline might change a little bit with each game, this is an unexpected new fun one. So, thank you Kyle Shanahan.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Pete, can we, can we jump order, reverse order here a little bit and go right to the path since Chris took it there? Yeah, sure. Awesome. Okay, Cam Newton against...


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[Assistant] Alright, we're good there. Do you want any more pictures? Am I okay to move it?


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[Assistant] I'm happy to do either one. We got two quarterbacks playing the same series here. Okay, so Patriots, Cam Newton, Mack Jones. Pete, you want to roll the, let's kick this one off here with the Cam against Mack preseason, kind of what they've done. So, Cam Newton?


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[Assistant] That's good. 14 out of 21. Buck 62. One touchdown, one pick. Mack Jones got a lot more work. More than twice as much. He was 36 out of 52. Almost 70%. One touchdown, no interceptions. It was a lot more the same for Mack Jones against the Giants.


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[Assistant] But that was a really good throw. So the numbers, this is a case where Cam's numbers were a little bit misleading. But uhm, as Coach Frye used to say, the hay is in the barn. So you know what you have with both in the preseason. Bill said after the game, we have to make some decisions. Yeaah. I know. What would you do here?


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[Assistant] That's, I guess that's where I'd be a little bit. To me it falls under one of these categories of, go back to a baseball analogy, tie goes two. So in baseball it's obviously tie goes to the runner. This is to me kind of a tie. And what makes it extra interesting on this set


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[Assistant] These are two quarterbacks who you have taken up for and liked a little more than other people at the times they were being evaluated the most. Last season when Cam was struggling,


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[Assistant] What your tiebreaker was because these are two guys that you have stood up for. You pounded the table for and said they're a little better than what people are saying right now. Yes. And it sounds like a tie goes to his experience and maybe a little more his running ability. I think so. That Mac doesn't have.


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[Assistant] But he couldn't do with Mac what it looks like he's going to do. No, absolutely not. No it's not.


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[Assistant] I just feel like he'll go with the veteran guy here to start the year. In one way, maybe Bill was tipping his hand and telling all of us that nothing has really changed even though Mack is playing well. That Cam didn't get off to statistically a great start and he didn't leave him in there. He didn't say,


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[Assistant] Let's, let's give him a couple series to look good, lead him to a score. Maybe he's that confident in him already where he's like, Cam's my guy anyway. Yeah. Matt could come in and go 15 out of 15 in Cam Newton starting week one. I think so.


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[Assistant] You know what he's been? I wrote down quick minded. It's something I always wanted to be and never was in the pocket there, but he knows what he's doing the second he gets that ball. I mean, he doesn't get caught holding it very often. He knows where it's supposed to go.


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[Assistant] The second he gets the snap, and most of us, you get the snap and you're already kinda looking to where you're going. The snap comes, your eyes are off the defense.


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[Assistant] He gets the snap, and while he's taking that step back, he's still looking at the things Brady does that way. Not everybody does that. And he's doing that already. Definitely. And the second thing that makes me think in nuance is, whether it's a three step, or a five step, or the occasional, I mean every now and then there's a seven.


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[Assistant] In the end, it's a lot of praise for the rookie Mac Jones, but a vote for Cam Newton to be the guy.


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[Assistant] Okay, we have one more of these quarterback situations to run through where we ultimately want to get Chris to what he would do, and that's in Chicago. Andy Dalton, Justin Fields. It's felt the entire time, and Matt Nagy's basically said it. It's going to be Andy Dalton, but he hasn't come out and just said


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[Assistant] This is the guy, period. End of story. And Justin Fields has played well. And I thought he played really well. 7 out of 10. 54 yards, not a lot of yards, but he just looked good executing the offense and had a nice touchdown pass against Tennessee. How would you handle this one? You know, I would go with Fields.


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[Assistant] He's looked better in the shorter rhythm game than Lance in the same kind of situations.


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[Assistant] So would you, I mean, we just spent a lot of time talking about the fact that, um, Cal Shanahan just may very well go with both quarterbacks. If you start Andy Dalton, and I'm not going to throw this out there because I think it's a, it's a very unique situation what Cal might do with every series, but would you give


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[Assistant] Who do you think is a better running threat in the rookie quarterbacks between Fields and Lance? I don't know, Fields, for sure.


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[Assistant] I would. The one thing you would have in Chicago, the one thing you would open the door to if you are playing fields a healthy amount during a game. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] But starting Andy Dalton, which you would not have in San Francisco if both guys are playing, because Jimmy Grapplo has a nice history of success there. People want him to be better. But there's probably, there ought to be a pretty good trust in him. Andy Dalton doesn't have that in Chicago yet. They can't wait to get more Justin Fields. So if he comes in in his series and does well, it's gonna be insane.


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[Assistant] Justin Fields, 5.6 yards per attempt. And that's per pass, correct Pete? That's passing. So it has been, it's been conservative. But I mean, I'll point out too, Fields was 7 out of 10. That's awfully good. Even though they weren't like shots down Field.


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[Assistant] Trey Lance was 6 out of 13. Big difference. Big difference.


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[Assistant] Been impressive so far. Overunder's coming in the AFC momentarily. Quickly Chris, I know you wanted to make a quick comment on the Denver situation because between the last time we were on and right now they have named Teddy Bridgewater the starter. Right. Your thoughts?


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[Assistant] You said you're a fan. I don't know if I would so much, after listening to you, define your feeling about him as a fan, as you believe in his potential. Yeah, that's right. That would be the better way to say it.


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[Assistant] Alright, we're all warmed up now. AFC over unders. Pete, Kristen, let's take a peek at what the man did last year. He won. He was ten and six. Ten and six. Almost every season that'll get you to the playoffs. Let's see what you do in January with ten and six. You had a playoff kind of season with the AFC over unders last year.


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[Assistant] I want to pick the push right off the bat. Is that an option? Do we have a limited number of pushes, Pete, we can pick? He's not gonna like that. Yeah, I think that's a no. I'll take that as a no. Fair question. I'll go with the over.


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[Assistant] To me, this was, as I looked through all of these,


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[Assistant] Making a call on the bills with the over under 11 was as easy as a call there was on there. I take the over. I don't think 13 was overachieving last year. I think they were that good. They could be a little bit worse than that and hit 12, go 12 and 5. So I didn't spend so much time thinking about this one. I think it's not only 11, I would put them back at 13 again this year.


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[Assistant] I've got over by just a little bit too. And my thinking there is, uh, the number one, just like you just said, two is going to have some bumps. I don't think either one of us are.


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[Assistant] Nine and a half. This is another one that I thought was pretty, uhm, my feeling right away.


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[Assistant] I'm going over with all caps here. I'm not a betting man. If I was, this is the one of the 16 teams. This is the one I like the best. The best, yea. I mean, I can easily see the Patriots winning 11-12 games. Definitely.


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[Assistant] He can't be as bad as he was last year. No, he cannot. And if he is in September, they're gonna go with Mac Jones. See him, he'll be gone. Right? Yes. No doubt about it, yes. One left in the AFC East, Jets at 6th. They were only 2 and 14 last year. Somebody was smoking crack on this line. This is a nice jump up for them to expect 6th. No. What do you say? Under, all the way. Double no's here, two unders, yes.


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[Assistant] AFC North. I don't, I don't want to hex you here. I really don't want to hex you. I'm going to remind everybody, you went 4-0. 4-0 Marcus! 4-0. Yeaah. In this division last year. Ravens up first last year, they were 11-5, over under 11 and a half. The half is big here for me.


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[Assistant] The over under for the Cleveland Browns is ten and a half. Another hook there. Last year they were eleven and five.


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[Assistant] You taking more than that or less? I'm going more. Damn it. Yeah. Yeah, me too.


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[Assistant] What's the weakness? If, if, if someone were to call you up and say, God, you really screwed up by not taking the under with the Browns, what's the argument to think that they won't win 11 games? I don't have one for you. Besides the history.


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[Assistant] Right. Steelers, another surprising number for me, eight and a half. Last year they were twelve and four. I think, you know, more than any number, the fact that they finished so poorly last year, still on people's minds. But the Steelers at eight and a half. What do you think? I'm gonna go over here too. I did, I did as well.


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[Assistant] The Steelers being at eight and a half to be exactly five hundred. I know you can't be exactly five hundred anymore, but people out there saying that that's what they are. This is a five hundred team. Do you think that's because of Ben Roethlisberger and people doubting him a little bit right now?


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[Assistant] I just took a picture of my original list of over-unders, because we're 8 for 8, the exact same damn thing now. Just so I can send it to Pete and say, I had this picked before, before I heard Chris, in whatever picks he has.


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[Assistant] Tennessee. Another one that for me was kind of easy. Nine. Team was 11-5 last year. I know they lost some weapons offensively.


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[Assistant] But the Titans with 9 wins, what do you say? I'm going over too.


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[Assistant] You mentioned the schedule, those first five games when you still consider it. Seahawks, Rams, at the Titans, at the Dolphins, at the Ravens.


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[Assistant] I went under as well. I went under as well. Okay. And it's one of those things, it was kinda like that. It's hard. The Cincinnati one with me where I would like to see them be better than that. Right, right. Frank Reich, I mean, how do you not pull for that? Uh, I would like, I would like Carson Wentz to be good for an entire season. Yeah. But the more I thought about it, to put them at that point is to ignore


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[Assistant] The injury situation with Carson a bit and to what he has been the last couple of seasons with the turnovers. And I also think it's a little bit disrespectful in a tiny little way that Philip Rivers was pretty good last year. He did a nice job and are they going to get the same kind of quarterback play from September?


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[Assistant] Through early January that they got last year when they won 11 games. I'm going to say not quite as good. So that was my reason for going on.


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[Assistant] Right. Six games left to have some kind of difference here in the over-under. Houston, four. They were four and twelve last year. Number set at four again this year.


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[Assistant] You win with the over. Yeah, I'm not doing that though. I'm going under. Ding ding ding ding. I took over. Yeah. You took over? I took the over.


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[Assistant] I was, I was, I was so, I think I had just watched the Trevor Lawrence highlights from the Cowboys game. You were affected. Or he just looked like a Friday 7 on 7. I know. That was, that was a little too fresh in my mind, but uh, I could, I


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[Assistant] You mentioned Jimmy Johnson made me think immediately about what Troy Aikman has said about him a number of times. Like initially when he came in his rookie season, the practices were so difficult. The intensity level, the expectations so high that it was tough right away. But the team needed that. The team desperately needed it. And when he left.


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[Assistant] For one off, finally. Yes. The Chiefs, I think we might be off on this one as well. Over under 12 and a half, they were 14 and 2 last year. So to take the over, you're thinking they're 13 and 4, which recently would be kind of a routine kind of year. I know. 12 and a half.


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[Assistant] And I'm hitting the under for a couple of reasons here, Chris. I buy into what you're saying. And if you want to say, like, I wouldn't argue against somebody who said that the Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl. Like, that's not outlandish at all. But I think they're going to lose week one. I think the Browns are going to get them.


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[Assistant] I mean, I hear you too. That's number one for me. Number two, they have been dominating at a level offensively in that division so much. Those other three defenses that are pretty good, Broncos, you can see the Raiders and Chargers being a lot better.


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[Assistant] That had to be an off-season priority in those meeting rooms is to be better against that Chiefs offense. And I think that'll cost them a game or two. I don't think it will cost them the division, but it'll cost them a game or two. To me, 12 and 5 makes a lot of sense for that team with a real promising January coming up, but I just didn't feel good about going 13.


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[Assistant] I think they'll be 12 and 5. Ooh. So, I'm taking the under. Damn. Yeaah. As the push not available.


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[Assistant] I'm going 12-2. Just barely under. Two unders on the cheeks. There we go. Chargers nine and a half.


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[Assistant] The hook. The half is there. Nine and a half wins for the Chargers. They were seven and nine last year. They were a promising competitive fun watch last year, but they were only seven and nine.


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[Assistant] I know, I do too. Yeah. I think it's gonna be, I can see 8 real easily. I can see 9. It's that hook. It's gonna be fun to watch. Love Herbert. But I just, I couldn't pencil him in for 10.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I don't know. I mean to win on the over, it has to be double digit wins for the Chargers and I think you can believe in where they're going and really like Herbert and think that the coach is moving in the right direction but still say, eh, that's a little bit too much and we're both down on the same side there. Alright, Broncos.


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[Assistant] I would have taken the under even if it was seven and a half. You would have. Yeah. Yeah. Defense is good. I mean, I just, the Teddy Bridgewater thing last, last year in Carolina was just so average to me.


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[Assistant] Right, uhm, I don't think they're gonna stink, but I'm not gonna pick them to win nine games.


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[Assistant] Damn. Seven, exactly. Alright, I'm gonna go with the over. Okay. I did as well for a very lame reason. I looked at the rest of the AFC West and I had under, under, under. I'm like, I gotta have somebody at over. Cause I can see it going either way. So yeah. I think they're like- Thank you, Pete. It's terrific logic.


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[Assistant] You can take the over and come back to your main feeling about them that it's not a playoff team.


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[Assistant] They gutted out to get 8 and 9. How many teams did we differ on there, Peter? I think it was just Jacksonville? Was that it? Because he switched back on the Chiefs? Okay.


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[Assistant] Yep. If it comes through, if I win this one, you know, next year at this time, I'll give you a 42 Jacksonville jersey. Who has worn 42 for the Jags?


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[Assistant] Hey, thinking about the number 42, and this is very random. I was at the Rose Bowl this past week and called the UCLA game. Jackie Robinson wore 42. Right. At UCLA, right? Do you know how many sports he starred in at UCLA?


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[Assistant] And there is one more, but uhm. Basketball and football. Did he do both? He, he, he led the nation in return yards, either punt or kick in football two years. Holy cow, I don't think I knew that. He led what was, whatever the Pac-10 was then, he led them in scoring, in basketball, was a standout in track. I think he was the national champ in the triple jump, and oh by the way, pretty good at baseball. Pretty good at baseball, yeaah.


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[Assistant] The 42. Anytime I hear 42 for the next couple weeks, I'm going to be thinking that.


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[Assistant] Good, sorry, pasta and meatball have been overtaken by steak and potatoes, alright? Meat and potatoes, steak and potatoes, you know what I mean. Steak and potatoes, I think it's...


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[Assistant] It's my friday, it's my friday, it's my friday, it's cannabis and vodka, okay, just so you know, that's what I'll be doing tonight.


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[Assistant] Man, I mean, if anybody's wondering, like, why I'm wiggling around during the show and stuff, it's cause, yeah, my writing mic is bringing up of, so Thursday night, I mean, hey, let's, let's be transparent here.


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[Assistant] I just was like getting high from smoking my blunt, okay? And I rolled off the damn bean bag and I've been having hip problems as you know but I'm letting the audience know and my hip like...


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[Assistant] They, they tell me they think it either dislocated for a second or it just locked up to such a point like I had a pinched nerve and I ended up going to the emergency room because my leg was going numb and I was afraid I was losing circulation in my leg. So, uh, I'm hoping for a better Thursday night because that was a total, total buzzkill last week. Holy shit.


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[Assistant] There wasn't much interaction. I was so miserable. I couldn't do it. I was, I was trying to watch the game on my phone, right? And just like keep track of that. But I was in that, you know, Mike, I mean, I'm sure you've been in pain like this before too, where you're just like,


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[Assistant] I can't find a position to like, relieve the, the pressure, and uh, so that was annoying, but uhm. Yes. So alright, here we go. Let's get after it. I love your jersey, man. You're looking cool, man.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I don't expect to have like the best record versus the spread, but I do want to beat you in straight up and the best bets. So, uh, I'm a little pissed off that you've, uh, taken over the lead there. It's, uh, driving me crazy here. So let's go. Screw your Chuck Foreman jersey. I'm coming at you today.


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[Assistant] I am. I'm picking the Rams. I just have no faith in the Seahawks defense. Listen, I respect the Seahawks. I know they play hard. Uh, I guess the one area I look at, can the Seahawks just like regularly


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[Assistant] Gash, the Rams run defense? If they can do that...


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[Assistant] I, then they have a chance to win the game, certainly. But I gotta think, you know, the Rams have enough talent in the secondary, a good defensive coach and Raheem Morris that I think they'll be able to.


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[Assistant] You know, match up with some of the simplicity of the Seahawks pass game and load the box a little bit at the same time.


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[Assistant] So I go advantage Rams there and the other side of the ball, you know, the Seahawks, yeah, they play hard. They're going to put a lot of people at the line of scrimmage discourage you from running, but this is a different animal. I mean, the Rams can run it. They're not like the best run team, but they can, and they're not afraid to be consistent with it.


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[Assistant] Um, and then of course, Matt Stafford and that offense, I just think it's too much for the Seahawks. I really do. I'm going Rams 31-21, Mike.


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[Assistant] I really do. I don't think that highly of the Atlanta Falcons team. I look at this as definitely like a coin toss type of football game, definitely. And I think the one thing that


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[Assistant] They are, and I don't think, like, if there's a weakness to their defense, it's the, the run game. Atlanta can't run the ball.


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[Assistant] So, uh, from that aspect, I like the Jets. I think what the one thing that I'm, I'm trying to get to that scares me a little bit is I don't know if I trust Zach Wilson all the way yet.


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[Assistant] You know, something I said on my podcast this week, Zach Wilson's being asked to do more than any other quarterback out of the rookies, in my opinion.


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[Assistant] D-degree of difficulty wise. You know, Mack Jones may be mentally being asked to do more with all the plays that Patriots run, but when you break down the plays they ask Zach Wilson to make, it's 20 yard out, it's 30 yard crosser, it's 40 yard go route. They ask him to make a lot of big plays and that does scare me, but I think at, at just, I'm going to go to


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[Assistant] The root of it, I think the Jets are a better football team. I think last week is going to give Zach Wilson some confidence and momentum. And I'm going to go with the Jets one in this one, 23, 20, like a last second field goal to win the football game. It's not going to be my best bet. I don't feel that good about it. Like I said, it's coin toss.


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[Assistant] I do. You know I do. And it's, uh, I'm surprised to see that right here as I look at it. I have not looked at the spreads.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah. I mean, I'm going Carolina 28-17. I think Carolina is a very well balanced football team.


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[Assistant] I really look at it and go, Hey, they were there. They weren't outclassed last week. They made mistakes. They had a few bad breaks, bad calls, a fumble that should have been a fumble, but they called forward progress for some reason. I don't know what the deal was there, but I think Sam Darnold week by week has gotten better. You know, they can run the football.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Eagles are not great on run defense. I think there's a great balance within the Carolina offense. I don't know what the status is with McCaffrey. I know he got out there a little yesterday. But the other thing too is I just think the world.


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[Assistant] Of the, uh, Panthers defense. And I don't think there's that much to defend with this Eagles offense overall. And I'm going to go, uh, Panthers 28 17, like I said.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm, I'm, I'm surprised. I thought Green Bay was going to be favored by more than three points. I'm not going to lie. I got the Packers winning a three point game, but this would be a game that I would go, if there's upsets to happen this week in the NFL, this would be one I would like, you know, at least put a star next to to go, I think this


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[Assistant] I think the Bengals offense, you know, has some, has the ability to execute consistently like we saw in the second half last week. We saw it a little bit against the Steelers the week before. There's pretty good balance.


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[Assistant] You know, and then the defense, you know, I think is, is pretty damn good too. They can do a little bit of everything. They cause turnovers. They can cover people. They can get after the quarterback a little bit. So I had the Packers winning, winning 27-24. Of course, I don't want to go with the push here. So.


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[Assistant] Um, but I want the bangles to cover. So I'm going to kind of change my score all the, I don't want to go 27, 25. I'm going to go 28, 27. All right. Packers. I'm going to go something like that. Or should I go 24, 23? What do you like? What sounds?


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[Assistant] 28-27? Okay, so that's how I look at it, but I do think, you know, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow are going to make a few plays. I like the way the Bengals are coached on that defensive side of the ball, and I think they can make this game very interesting for sure.


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[Assistant] I like the Patriots. I do. I think it is going to be a low scoring, a low scoring affair. Uhm, you know, the one thing is, you know,


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[Assistant] Houston has, you know, we've talked about this before, an offensive staff that runs a New England offense to a degree. I do think that helps them a little bit with the rules of the Patriots offense.


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[Assistant] But I think ultimately what I just get back to is I don't have any faith in the Houston's offense right now under, uh, the Texans offense under Davis Mills. I don't. And I think this Patriots defense is real. Like we saw last week.


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[Assistant] It's one of the five best defenses in the game. And I don't think they've even played their best football yet. So hey, the problem with the Patriots is it's just, it seems like.


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[Assistant] They haven't got the run game going and every drive has to be 10 plays, 63 yards for them to score points or something of that nature. I'm going Patriots 20 to 13, uh, nine points, a little too much for me, but I could see you're going different.


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[Assistant] No, probably not. I think you make some points there. You know, I- The Houston defense-


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[Assistant] Is a little better than you're giving it credit for. That's the one thing I'll, I'll just would fight back on you there. And like I said, they really, they really stifled the bills last week. Well, it was their offense that gave them issues. I mean, it really was. And of course it was bad weather and a bunch of other stuff there too. But I hear you. We'll see. I'll be interested to see how that one unfolds.


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[Assistant] Uh, I thought that hurt them last week in the Jets. The Jets aren't great at corner and they weren't unable to kind of expose them on the outside with any great one-on-one matchups to take advantage of that. But between the Jags week, all the distractions, everything there,


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[Assistant] And I think that you're gonna beat the Titans. You gotta beat them with the passing game. And I just don't think the Jaguars passing game is, is up to that task yet. I don't.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, and Trevor Lawrence, of course, looks good. I understand that.


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[Assistant] Uh, I, I just think this is a game the Titans get back on track and with Jacksonville and everything they're doing there, I just have no faith in them. I'm going 24-17, uh, Titans.


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[Assistant] Because the Titans let up too many big plays in the pass game every week. That's where I was going to go. Like the Jaguars are going to keep this closer. When it's going to be because of Trevor Lawrence and him making plays. I think that's, that's where the Titans are just scary in my opinion. Like I agree with everything you said, but every week.


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[Assistant] You know, people move the ball and then throw in the football. And I think that's what's a little scary. And there are some weapons in Jacksonville. I would think that's Vegas' thinking. So we'll see where that goes.


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[Assistant] So there's that issue and when you can't stop the run against Dalvin Cook and company, that's trouble, let alone now that's going to make them commit.


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[Assistant] So the box and now Justin Jefferson and Thielen are gonna be one on one and there's no great corners in Detroit that can cover those guys.


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[Assistant] So that's where it scares me. I'm shocked that it is nine and a half. I did not think it would be that high, but I'm going Vikings 3420.


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[Assistant] I do think they're going to have their way and be able to march the ball up and down the field on this Detroit Lions defense for sure. And well, Vikings defense, you know, I'm not going to say it's great, but it's solid. And I don't think it's going to be like the toughest breakdown in the world for Mike Zimmer and company to slow down the Lions offense.


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[Assistant] I do. I mean, I'm, I was disappointed today to hear you on, uh, on the show that you were gonna go with Steelers too, cause, uh, I thought maybe that would be a game, this might be a game that I could make up against you.


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[Assistant] I guess, you know, the desperation of the Steelers, that's a real thing in the NFL. I mean, this is a huge game for them. They really, they can't afford to lose this. You go one and four, you know, you're in big trouble, little China, and you're going to be out of the playoff race, certainly out of the AFC North race.


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[Assistant] You know, also, and I think you've heard me say this, I've been a little underwhelmed with Denver's offense. I can't lie. You know, they feasted on the poor a little bit. They have. You know, they haven't run the ball.


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[Assistant] Great, right? I know they had a big run against the Giants that like inflated their stats and for as talented as they are at the wide receiver position in there, you know, Jerry Judy's injury hurts them. KJ Hamler got hurt and now it's not as talented and they haven't been making as many plays in the passing game.


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[Assistant] Is that what you did? I did, I did, I did make that reference. I didn't know where it was from. I couldn't remember, like, and now that, uh, yes, uh, so yes, I don't even know why. I say that phrase often and I don't know why I do. And Pete's saying I do. He goes, you do say that a lot.


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[Assistant] No way, no way. I can't pick the Dolphins. Not with the way their offenses look the last few weeks, or really the whole year.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's just nothing to get behind there. And, and you know, if there's a weakness to Tampa Bay, we saw maybe, you know, the banged up corner position. They're not the same there, but like, you're not going to be able to run the ball on Tampa. Nobody can. It doesn't, you're wasting your time. And then.


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[Assistant] You know, they don't have the offense that's gonna take advantage of the undermanned.


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[Assistant] And then on the other side, listen, I got a lot of respect for the Dolphins defense. I do think the Dolphins defense is much better than statistically how it appears. You know, again, it's one of those things we talk about a lot. When the offense is just crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap.


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[Assistant] You know, the defense can only hold so long before some leaks start to pop through and they're worn out and they're on the field. And now they take a chance. Maybe they don't want to take cause they realize our offense stinks. We might have to try to make a play with our defense here. Let me call this defense a call, even though we could get gashed. So there's just too many things going on there and I'm going bucks 28 17 Mike.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm, I'm, to me, this is, this is one where I look at and I think the point spread's too low. I really do. You know, there's, uh, the Saints are a better football team in my opinion, hands down. I still, listen,


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[Assistant] Maybe you want to see a little bit more consistency with the passing game, but we saw that last week. Jameis Winston didn't play bad last week. Definitely not.


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[Assistant] You know, and, and really where I think the Saints lost the game last week, and I'm hoping they don't make the same mistake this week is they just, they went for the kill on the defensive side too much. You know, have a little more faith in your defensive front.


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[Assistant] You know, you heard me say today, I'm pro football talk a few times in the Giants game. They crowded the line of scrimmage like they were playing like the 1993 Cowboys and Emmett Smith and the greatest offensive line ever invented. And I want to go, what, what are you doing? The Giants can't run the ball.


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[Assistant] Well, what are we trying to do? Obliterate them completely? Or are you trying to get the Giants back in the football game? So I think if they trust their front,


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[Assistant] And play a little bit more of the defensive style they played against the Green Bay Packers where they went, you know, we got to see you run the ball on us first before we bring safeties down and do that. Uh, I think the Saints will win the football game and


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[Assistant] You know, the Washington defense, you know, this is fourth week in a row or third week in a row. They stink. They, I don't know any other way to say it. They're not very good at stopping the run. They're not very good at stopping the pass. There's nothing good or positive to take from them right now. So I go Saints 28, 21.


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[Assistant] Well, I like the Browns. I do. I'm not going to say I feel overly confident about it. I don't. I look at this as a coin toss game and I'm not picking this as my best bet either. You know, I think the first thing that just scares me is Baker Mayfield. I mean, listen, I don't know what, what, what, like the first few weeks he played great.


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[Assistant] He was very under control. Every ball that left his hand was on the money perfect spiral.


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[Assistant] And then the last two weeks, it's gotten back to, let me, let me throw it as hard as I can. I mean, watch his motion the last few weeks. It's like, ah, I mean, his head moves everywhere. I want to go, how do you even focus on the target the way you're throwing the ball? Like that makes no sense. Why are you reaching back to throw the ball 175 miles per hour? Like that, I don't understand.


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[Assistant] So, I'm, I'm gonna play the, that he gets it straight a little bit this week, and I'm just gonna play the fact that


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[Assistant] The Chargers are not a good run stopping team and the Browns are the best running team in football. So I look at it from that standpoint.


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[Assistant] And as long as Baker just doesn't totally shit the bed, uh, I think they'll move the ball. Yep. Hello. Don't shit the bed Baker. Okay. And then the other side, I just go, uh, the chargers, you know, I know that offense is tough.


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[Assistant] But ever since week one, that Brown's defense is tough too. Now they feasted on some below average offenses. This is going to be a different animal for sure. But the one thing I'll say about the Chargers, you know, we'll see if they can run the ball. It was encouraging last week, but man, the Brown's defense is just, it's so fast. They play downhill.


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[Assistant] Jeremiah Usukoromo was amazing. You know, Miles Garrett's amazing. Pretty good corners on the outside. And one thing I haven't seen from the Chargers yet is, they run a lot of the right plays versus the right coverages.


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[Assistant] But I don't think they stretched the field quite enough. I think they're actually doing a little bit of an injustice to their own football team by not pushing the ball down the field and just backing people up.


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[Assistant] And if they don't do that, then that's an advantage Browns to me, because now they can just play fast and aggressive and be around all those five and eight yard throws all the game long. I'm going to go Browns in a close one, 27-24.


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[Assistant] I mean, he missed Baker, I mean Odell Beckham Jr. on a walk-in, like 70-yard touchdown, and I'm telling you, it was barely in the screen to throw, it was so off-target. There is some weird, weird mental block with, uh, with Baker throwing the ball to Odell.


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[Assistant] And yes, I thought he left a number of plays on the field the week before against the Bears. And then again, it's, it is strange. So yea, Bakers holds the keys to the car here, uh, in this matchup. We'll see where it goes. You're going one way. I'm, I'm going to go the other.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with the Bears. I am. I, I, I, the Bears defense, I mean the Bears are, they're weird. I, I don't know what to say. But I go, Raiders offensive line, not great.


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[Assistant] Bears D-line can get after the quarterback pretty good this year. They can.


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[Assistant] I think they'll do a good job of kind of managing that Raiders offense.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, the Raiders defense, uh, again, I'm, I'm, I'm not a huge fan of it. I think the, the, the Bears should be able to run the ball on the Las Vegas Raiders front. I do.


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[Assistant] And then of course a little banged up at secondary, and I would hope there's a few little wrinkles with Justin Fields running the ball, but I mean, the Bears finally had a plan of attack last week on the offensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] They really did. There was an identity. I think it fits their team the best, their offensive line, and it fits Justin Fields the best. And because of that, this is one I'm, I'm gonna go with an upset here. I am. I'm going out on a limb. I'm going Bears 23-20. Wow. I know. I know.


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[Assistant] I know, it's a tough one. Listen, I'm not gonna lie, I got my phone, I got a bunch of notes here in my phone, and one of the first things I wrote is,


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[Assistant] You know, Raiders over Bears, but not sure. And I had some other notes to go along with it. And you know, as I sat down and wrote scores, I just went, eh, this could be one of those games that goes the other way, but please don't bet on this on my account. If you're out there listening to this, this, this to me is, uh, just one of those gut feeling games I got in the Bears. Yes. 49ers at.


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[Assistant] I'm going with my 49ers. I am. I'm gonna go with the 49ers. I'm gonna play the desperate card of the San Francisco 49ers a little bit.


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[Assistant] You know, the Cardinals defense, you know, it's a tale of two matchups. Last year, early in the year, they did a great job of kind of containing the Shanahan run game. Later in the year, they got totally obliterated by it. I just think between


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[Assistant] I don't know what we're gonna see at quarterback. I don't know where that is yet. I don't.


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[Assistant] Uh, even, even, even if, if it is Jimmy Garoppolo, I do think you're going to see some Tray Lance plays in this game. I think they got to like bring out the kitchen sink.


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[Assistant] And then the other aspect I'm gonna say is I do think, again, I think the 49ers defense is awesome other than they can't cause turnovers.


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[Assistant] But I think the way they play defense, a lot of shell coverages, so good up front.


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[Assistant] You know, the fast linebackers. I think that takes away a little bit of, hey, the Cardinals are a little bit better of a running team.


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[Assistant] And I think the speed of the front of the 49ers can contain Kyler Murray. I don't know. I thought that last week with the Rams and they would thought they would contain Kyler Murray a little bit better than they did. So we'll see, but I'm going 49ers because I think it's a must win football game for them. I'm going 30 to 27 49ers. You probably were wishing.


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[Assistant] One last thing I just want to say there, one last thing, because I do think like, hey, what you're saying, like, I do think people kind of swipe that under the rug a little bit much.


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[Assistant] The emotions where you're at in the year is a very real thing in the NFL. The desperation and...


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[Assistant] Oh, we feel good, we're 4-0 and we got confidence because we're a 4-0 and you know, we think we're confident. That does not outweigh the team that's got a red hot poker up their ass and going, oh shit, we got to win this damn game or we're in deep trouble. It does not.


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[Assistant] So that's why I am all over your point. And last thing is, the Cardinals don't have enough, there's one issue, they don't have enough big people in the middle of their defense. And that scares me against the 49ers. So that's why I go there too.


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[Assistant] I think this is, I think the Giants match up really well with the Cowboys. I do. You know, I think the Giants are big enough up front to kind of like, oh, hey.


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[Assistant] You know, we don't have to totally overcommit to stop the run.


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[Assistant] And, you know, again, you know, I think a little bit highly of that Giants defensive staff and their game plans. But here's the other side of it too. The Giants offense has got it rolling. And the Cowboys defense, even though they cause a few turnovers, you know, every game, and that's been their big thing, they let up a lot of big plays in yards. They do.