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[Assistant] Um, the offensive line issues are like he has had an outstanding offensive line the entire time he's been in Tampa Bay and now it's possible that he it's likely.


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[Assistant] It's almost factually true that he's going to have his worst offensive line that he's had since he got to Tampa Bay. So.


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[Assistant] You know, Brady definitely was talking to him like, hey bro, like, right, sign the long-term contract. So and they might think like, man, this guy's going to bounce after this year and I go play for the Dolphins.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a good point. You start getting, maybe get some injuries. You start one in three. People are wondering, is Tom committed to the season? Because Sully was on here.


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[Assistant] Pointing out that, you know, Tom Brady was talking to dolphins as early as 2019.


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[Assistant] He sort of said to several times that the bucks kind of forced his hand into coming out of retirement because they were.


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[Assistant] That you gave this artificial deadline about free agency. We're going to pursue other quarterbacks. So yeah, I mean, I think, I think it's.


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[Assistant] I, my, my gigantic bucks future to win the NFC South, I still feel good about, but I'm a little, little more nervous about than I was a month ago.


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[Assistant] Will, question number two from our pal Patrick Walker, will Todd Bowles rebuild his brand as an NFL head coach?


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[Assistant] Uh, obviously you do have a new coach in place, Bruce Arians out coincidentally or not.


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[Assistant] After Tom Brady unretires, Todd Bowles is given the reins. The former Jets coach, uhm, got the job over, uh, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, Byron Leftwich, I was supposed to say Byron Nelson, um, Byron Leftwich and, uh, and, and, you know, look, Todd Bowles has experiences as a head coach, so it wouldn't entirely surprising.


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[Assistant] And you shouldn't take the Jets job just like you shouldn't take the Browns job or frankly the Raiders job sometimes.


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[Assistant] It's hard to win and I think Bulls will have a lot more success in this first season with Tom Brady. Yes, he could start slow and yes, they could all fall apart as Wilson thinks. But to me, Bulls is a good enough head coach to make this work in this division where even if you go 12 and five, you're probably winning the division.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know, it's like, you get Brady for one year, that's great, but uhm, a little dicey. Uh, real question number three for the bucks. Will Rob Gronkowski go back on his word?


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[Assistant] Uh, Gronk has denied that he will return even if Tom Brady calls him. Maybe since Tom was trying to go to Miami, but Gronk's, uh, lovely, uh, lady friend, uh, Camilla Custic.


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[Assistant] Is that right? Yeah, that sounds right. Okay. Camille Kostek. Camille Kostek. Oh, okay. I was close. And, uh, his, uh, very famous agent, Drew Rosenhouse have both said they both implied that Gronk's going to come back and play. And so that leads me to believe that Gronk is cool with playing.


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[Assistant] But doesn't want to deal with the ramp up to the season and doesn't want to play a full season because he's old and his body hurts, especially right now. He likes to party in the off season and doesn't want to deal with training camp. But those, but those parties want him to make money. And when your agent and your girlfriend.


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[Assistant] Both are like adamant that you should play and you Tom Brady's like the guy you're going to play for. You're probably going to play at some point. So my guess is, uh, yes, he will go back on his word and play. I'll say over under eight and a half games and I'll take the over.


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[Assistant] Then Rob Krakowski's not coming back out to like get like beat up for a, you know, six and 11 team or whatever. Right. Right. Some things are going to go eight, nine and eight. Maybe it was like, what does Wilson think they're going to do? Like five, nine and eight.


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[Assistant] 9-8 ish. 9-8 is a bad season for any Tom Brady team.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Absolutely. The New Orleans Saints!


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[Assistant] The number one question from Patrick Walker. Can Jameis Winston deliver? Like, can he be a Jimmy John's guy? I love Jimmy John's, by the way.


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[Assistant] Thick bread, lots of bread and waffles. Uh, would you eat a waffle sandwich?


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[Assistant] Uh, anyway, look, uh, you know, I think it depends on who you've got on the podcast. I hear you're talking to you about this because Wilson is adamant that James Winston had the best season of his career and he was incredible for the Saints last year and I'm like, he's fine.


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[Assistant] He had a lot of touchdowns. They were like, it was like all concentrating that weird week one game where he threw like five, he had like a 98 passing yards and five touchdowns. Uhm, I, I think that Jameis can be good for the Saints, but


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[Assistant] With no Sean Payton there, I know Pete Carmichael has been working with Sean Payton for a long time, but you're still taking away one of the best offensive minds in


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[Assistant] Really the history of professional football in Sean Payton, a guy who is one of the best play callers in the NFL or was until he walked away. And I am hesitant to suggest that Jamis Winston is going to step in off an ACL.


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[Assistant] And just magically be this efficient quarterback that everybody wants him to be without showing Peyton there to really put the the range on him so.


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[Assistant] I'll say, I don't think, I don't think James is going to do what people think he's going to do.


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[Assistant] I mean he completed 59% of his passes in those seven games.


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[Assistant] He threw 14 touchdowns, just three interceptions. Three interceptions is great, but.


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[Assistant] Like nine of the touchdowns came in two games. Five against Green Bay in that 38-3 win where like he just didn't, he had 148 passing yards, 14 to 20. Like he didn't even need to be throwing like three of those touchdown passes.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then the other four came against, uh, Washington on the road, you know, 15 to 30 completion percentage for touchdowns and, and, and a pick. Um, you know,


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[Assistant] I just, I, I think anyone suggesting that Jamie's hat was like awesome to start the season is, is reaching there. So I, I'm not very high on.


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[Assistant] James Winston, I think he's better than Taysom Hill. I'm gonna be wrong, but I'm just not very high on this season. Is Michael Thomas- Is he better than Andy Dalton?


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[Assistant] I would take him over Andy Dalton, but. Cause Andy Dalton's the backup quarterback there.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And again, like part of that is James Winston. Yeah. I mean, Drew Brees was the master of like hammering Michael Thomas with those slants.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's going to be nearly as productive with, with, uh, Winston under center. You also have the addition of Chris Olave, Jarvis Landry is there. And so, you know, it's going to take away from him. I would be very surprised if he is the same guy that he was a Houston breach, uh, when at the height of his powers, when he got that huge contract. So.


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[Assistant] My, my, my would be my answer, my answer to this would be no.


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[Assistant] Although I still think he can be a very viable wide receiver.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm probably going to get torched by him in fantasy because I'm just not going to draft him.


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[Assistant] If his ADP keeps going up, but you know, what can you do? Can Dennis Allen get off to a hot start in the post Sean Payton era? Question number three from Patrick.


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[Assistant] Do we, do we think he's saying like for the year or for like the, like for the, like, can he get off to like a 12 and five start or is he saying, can he get off to a, um, like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a viable schedule. Like it, you know, especially if Deshaun Watson's gone for the whole year, they get there at the Browns on Christmas Eve.


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[Assistant] You have the Panthers twice. You feel like you should win both of those. The Falcons twice. You feel like you should win both of those. Although I don't think it's guaranteed that they win both, right? I mean.


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[Assistant] Uh, bingles at home, at the Cardinals, Raiders at home, Ravens at home.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but before that, yeaah, I mean, look, you get the Falcons, Bucks, the Bucks, Tom Brady's never beaten the Saints, Panthers, Vikings at home, Seahawks at home. I'll answer it this way. Dennis Allen needs to get off to a hot start.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Like if you, if you start out two and three.


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[Assistant] And then you have that stretch that we're talking about. You could very well be four and nine.


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[Assistant] And you've given up your first round pick for next year.


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[Assistant] In order to get another first this year to try and show up your tackle position. Now look, maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong and Sean Payton doesn't matter as much as people don't seem to think Sean Payton matters. I think Sean Payton matters a lot and I think we'll find out fairly quickly. All right, Carolina Panthers.


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[Assistant] Uh, was this, was this, uh, article written before Baker Mayfield was traded?


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[Assistant] Nope, nope, afterwards. Is Baker Mayfield the weak one starter? Uh, easy one for me, yes.


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[Assistant] If they make the playoffs, then he's getting franchise tagged or the, or they work on a contract extension mid year, you know?


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[Assistant] And I think Baker would be interested in that if, if he gets to Carolina and enjoys it. It's also possible he gets to Carolina and he's like, what a disaster this place is. I'm out. And you know, go replace Tom Brady in Tampa.


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[Assistant] You know, going to replace Tua in Miami or whatever you want to do. There's going to be options out there. Maybe the Lions want him. Who knows? Anyway. Can Matt Ruhl climb off the hot seat?


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[Assistant] If, if they win nine games, I mean, I was, do seven games get Matt Ruhl fired? Seven to nine get Matt Ruhl fired?


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[Assistant] Seven and nine is going to be, but it depends on how the seven and nine is too. Like a seven to nine, where you lose some close games and Baker's looks good and seven and 10 Brenton seven and 10. God.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right. That's true too. Like a seven and 10.


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[Assistant] Where you start four and O is so much worse than a seven and 10 where you start one in 10. Right.


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[Assistant] Cause you're like, you win six games to close out the season. You're like, Oh, you know, like a Baker's playing great. Like we bring it back. We keep this thing rolling. Like we may, we got something cooking here guys. And then, and then, yeah. So right. All right. Moving along to the Atlanta Falcons.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I don't think 5G games is competitive.


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[Assistant] I don't see how, I mean, I always try to, I mean, and look, I don't, I like what the Falcons did this offseason in terms of.


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[Assistant] You know, Drake London, I thought Desmond Riddle in the third round was a nice pick up. Uh, you know, they added some defensive depth in the second round.


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[Assistant] Um, Arnold Epikete is a nice, uh, nice value pick there too in the second round. I, you know, I just think the problem for the Falcons is...


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[Assistant] When they hired Terry Fontenot and Arthur Smith, they were trying and they said this.


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[Assistant] They said, like Terry Fontenot said this, that they were not going to rebuild. They were not, they were, they were trying to retool on the fly. And I think it would have been.


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[Assistant] And look, it worked out, it worked out how it worked out. The worst possible thing for them would have been if they traded for Watson.


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[Assistant] Right. And all of a sudden you're giving up tons of draft picks that are high in the draft and Watson's suspended for a year and you've brought great shame to your organization, et cetera, et cetera. I think that moving on from Matt Ryan,


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[Assistant] And just taking the L on the salary cap hit and whatever it is now.


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[Assistant] If Arthur blank is going to be patient with Terry Fontenot and Arthur Smith in this rebuild, and there's nothing to, you know, I mean, there's nothing to suggest he won't be.


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[Assistant] You know, you're in year two, I, I just looked at Marcus Mariotto, Desmond Ritter at the quarterback station. Mariotto has been named the starter. Could he have a renaissance in, in, uh,


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[Assistant] In Atlanta, possibly, but he wasn't great under Arthur Smith in Tennessee. That's why they had to bring in Ryan Tannehill.


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[Assistant] And you know, you have, you don't have a, I don't think you have an elite offensive line by the stretch of the imagination. You have Kyle Pitts and Drake London. So you have the start of something good in terms of receivers. I just don't, I don't, I mean, you know, AJ Terrell and Grady Jarrett, great players on the defensive side of the ball. They've got, you know, some, some higher caliber, you know, they have some players on that, like,


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[Assistant] I cannot envision a scenario where they win the NFC South. Just can't.


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[Assistant] But I, I just, I just cannot see them, like, being a playoff team. It's, it's, and look, been wrong a lot. Wrong a lot every year, every week. I just can't see them being a playoff team.


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[Assistant] Will Marcus Murillo to finally establish himself as an NFL starter? I mean, I think the over under for what's the over under for Desmond Ritter starts this year. I say it's like eight and a half.


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[Assistant] At the Rams at the Seahawks here two week road trip out there. Browns at home at Buccaneers 49ers at home at the Bengals. Like what's their record after those seven games?


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[Assistant] Yeah. And so it's like at that point, if you're two and five or one and six or oh and seven.


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[Assistant] And I don't think that we own seven, but I don't think there'll be three and four or four and three. At that point, aren't you going to Desmond Ritter to see what he's got?


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[Assistant] You don't, you're not going to just definitely give an entire season of Marcus Mariota just because he's, you're a veteran.


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[Assistant] That's insane. Yeah, which is, that's tough.


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[Assistant] Four games after they're by in a 17 game season. That is crazy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's not ideal unless you're a playoff contender. Alright, finally, can Drake London instantly replace Calvin Ridley? Uhm.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think it's, I don't think that Calpits, I mean, excuse me, I don't think Drake London can replace 2020 Calvin Ridley who had 90 catches for 1300 yards and nine touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Man, he had 10 touchdowns as a rookie, 7 touchdowns in the second year, 800 yards in both and 60, 60 some catches in both. I think those first two years is replaceable. Maybe not the touchdown part, but like, I mean, I think.


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[Assistant] I know. I mean, the entire landscape of the NFL would be completely different.


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[Assistant] If you're the, if you're the Falcons, you cannot believe how lucky you are. You're bummed you lost Matt Ryan because he's, you wanted to play for the franchise for his entire career. But I mean, you are, you're pretty glad you didn't get to Sean Watson.


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[Assistant] I mean, it would have devastated the franchise. Uh, alright. We'll be back, uh, tomorrow for a mailbag. Well, it's Monday for a mailbag if you're listening.


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[Assistant] Yeah, good call. Uh, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. For Breach, I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Wilburnton. I'm your host. It is Wednesday, August 24th.


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[Assistant] You're listening to the podcast in audio form, Tuesday, August 23rd. If you're watching us on YouTube, where we go live streaming every day for the rest of time.


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[Assistant] Joining me to do, to talk some home field advantage and his favorite future numbers.


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[Assistant] I don't even know what your title is now. Is it like Senior Director of Fantasy and Gambling?


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[Assistant] As a senior directing, managing editor of Fantasy and Gambling, RJ White, man who spends far more time on this podcast than you would probably like, and uh, a great human being in general. What's up man, how you doing?


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[Assistant] Yeah, the pandemic made it tough to hang out with people. So it was good. It was good to see you guys at CU and Nashville. Uhm, had a good, uh, had a good crew there and uh, Wilson got a tattoo. By the way, speaking of tattoos, we are still, uhm, Clarency in the in the comments. It's on time. Benson showing RJ some respect. Yes, that is true. I tried to. We had Kenny Maine yesterday and RJ today and so I was trying. Like like.


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[Assistant] Effectively trying to show up on time and get this thing started out of respect for RJ's time. Kenny Maine showed up late with a float plane and a.


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[Assistant] And an iPhone, which is totally fine. It was a great conversation. Go check that out if you like rambling incoherent discussions of.


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[Assistant] Like 75 different things. Kenny May and I had a good time. RJ and I will maybe be a little more... Tight. Anywho. Oh yea, speak of tattoos. Probably not. We are still up for the People's Choice Podcast Award.


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[Assistant] I think that we're in a dogfight as to whether or not we will win the award, but we are, we are like in the top.


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[Assistant] Uh, is eligible to be part of the 25% of, uh, finalist voters. They'll send you an email. They'll let you know if you can vote for us and if you can go vote because then I'll have to get a tattoo, which I really don't want to do. My dad called me an idiot for making this bet last night when I saw him. Anyway.


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[Assistant] I don't think there's any other promo stuff I have to get down. Uh, we also have some eBay stuff that you can bid on again. So check that out.


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[Assistant] Matriculated, I guess is the best way to put it because it used to be like, you know, we had three points of unfilled advantage, et cetera, et cetera. And like certain places had better unfilled advantage. Where do you think this is from a general perspective sort of drifted?


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[Assistant] Who is, I'll just ask it this way and I think that'll get me to my next question that I was going to ask you based on your article. And you can read this at sportsline.com, uh, if you aren't already subscribed to sportsline.


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[Assistant] What are you thinking? It's like 10 bucks a month to start cheap. It's like cheaper than Netflix and you get gambling picks from RJ throughout the entire NFL season. Um, who has the best home field advantage in the NFL for 2022?


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[Assistant] That is so stupid. Like, that is crazy. I mean, is that, is that, is that like sticky in terms of...


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[Assistant] I mean, it's your picks, and you're, I feel like you're objective enough to, like, John Breach loves these, like, I'm a great picker with, like, the Chiefs. I'm hot with the Chiefs. I'm like, Breach, it's just coincidence. Like, I don't think that's sticky. But like, do you think this is potentially related to hermfield advantage, et cetera?


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[Assistant] Especially like we're saying, like the home field has shifted so much over the last three to four years, at least with how we're recognizing it as it relates to the point spread that if your, your home field advantage numbers are probably like, I mean.


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[Assistant] Like if the, I mean, let's say Washington's getting, Washington is getting one point for Hemfield advantage, right? They're one of the lower teams. Uhm, I think they're the lowest, right? There's only, there's like four or five teams to get one, wait, the Saints get one point for Hemfield?


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[Assistant] That's interesting too because like, I mean, I think just generally speaking, if you asked and like nine out of 10 NFL average NFL fan, I mean, I think nine out of 10, but pretty.


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[Assistant] Strong NFL fans would guess that the Saints have a great home field advantage because just because like.


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[Assistant] You know, the, the way that the Superdome is perceived as, you know, and, and like, you know, you, you just see the crowd, like you're always, you're always like, you're always seeing the crowd. And maybe it's, but maybe that's more about, um, primetime games. Like, is it, can you, is there?


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[Assistant] Is prime time a factor at all when you think about, like, how to build this in or to adjust?


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[Assistant] The history that unfolds in Akra, Akraman field or whatever the field is called.


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[Assistant] Tampa Bay, I mean, how much of that is related to...


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[Assistant] Same thing with the Raiders, I guess, like, did you, did you notice any difference with Tampa Bay being uhm...


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[Assistant] Like substantially better at home when Brady, once Brady arrived versus like before, like, you know, like was it, was it, did that factor in at all? I guess is my question.


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[Assistant] Later in the season, you would think it becomes more of an advantage when it gets much colder in Green Bay, in theory. Um, is it Jiggles or J Eagles? I'm not entirely sure, but either way he points out in the chat. Don't forget to like the video. RJ always brings the heat every season. Woo! RJ brings the heat. White, the white heat. Quite hot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the account. My, um, Jay Eagles, excuse me. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright, let's, uh, any other thoughts from the home field advantage rankings? Like any other, just sort of when you're looking at 2022 and how to sort of plan for it. Because look, this is the stuff too, I think, that


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[Assistant] This is why you should sub to sportsline and read RJ stuff. Like this, this potentially gives you an advantage going into week one when you're making your picks. Maybe you're in a CBS sports pool. Maybe you're just betting. Whatever you're doing, you'll have.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright, let's uh, let's take a break and when we come back we'll talk about some futures that you have made.


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[Assistant] All right. So John breach was telling us in Nashville, he's like,


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[Assistant] I talked to RJ and I got all 32 of his NFL futures and I know him and you don't. I was like, well, you know, Breech, I'm not sure if you're aware, but, um.


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[Assistant] Uh, but sure, go ahead and brag about whatever you want to brag about, Breach. Uh, is it, is 32 the number? 32? No, I have, um, 23.


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[Assistant] I'm sort of looking at the article and trying to sort of pick off the ones that you have more units on. Did you put anything, is there, do you have any with more than two units that I'm missing? Oh, three units? Oh wow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean it, uhm, I think the biggest thing is the depth, like the depth of the AFC. I mean, it's just, you know.


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[Assistant] Even if AFC West beats up on each other, you still have to deal with the fact that, you know, you have at least, you know,


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[Assistant] Two teams coming out of that division that, that, you know, they'd make it the playoffs. You got the Bills and then like maybe, I mean, the Jets seem like a long shot to be frisky or like to be a playoff team, but like the Dolphins, by the way, oh, by the way, I said, I did an HQ hit last week and said that the Patriots could upset the Dolphins a week one. Like they told me to pick five upsets. Like, I mean,


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[Assistant] Like non-stop, my Twitter, I couldn't read my mentions. It was non-stop Dolphins fans.


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[Assistant] Uhm, anyway, but yeaah, like the Dolphins could be a playoff team, the Patriots could be a playoff team, just because of like, you know, where, I mean, if you wanna count out Belichick, by all means.


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[Assistant] But, like, he can't tank, he already drafted a rookie or a quarterback in the first round, like in the last two years. You gotta, he's like, I don't know man, the Joe Judgen-Mappinshire thing is crazy.


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[Assistant] Oh no, we didn't, we didn't, we skipped the 49ers. Sorry, I was uhm, I saw two 49ers futures. You have a half unit on the 49ers to win the Super Bowl at 20 to 1. You also have, oh man, you, I see, I feel good about this. So my, I was thinking this morning, and this is before I like really dove into this article, my, my,


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[Assistant] The Super Bowl matchup, I was, maybe I was thinking of yesterday, but the Super Bowl matchup, I was...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I've been saying for like weeks, I mean, really months that the Ravens, I mean, I said, but I mean, you know, I hope people listened and took it earlier because they were two to one to win the division.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, months ago when, when, when, you know, Cleveland trades for Deshaun and it looks like, you know, nobody knows what, you know, even with the suspension looming, um, or, you know, possible discipline looming, the Ravens just weren't getting enough respect in that division. I mean, this is a really good team. The receiver thing is so overrated and people are like, I think people are lumping in Rashad Bateman with Hollywood Brown as if,


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[Assistant] Like Hollywood Brown has played several years and just, you know, didn't...


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[Assistant] It didn't pan out perfectly. He had some spike games, but that's kind of who he was. And then they traded him. Rashad Babin played one year, like he had a rookie season and he lost his quarterback for much of it. And they also have their run heavy team with a Mark Andrews on the roster. Like it's, I think there's an argument they have the second best.


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[Assistant] Well, maybe they're best receivers. I would much prefer the pass catchers on the Ravens to the pass catchers on the Browns.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm not, I'm not worried about them all. You've got the, uh, correlated play with the Titans.


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[Assistant] Uh, missing the playoffs. The Colts winning the AFC South at minus one fifteen to two unit play. I mean, you won't hear me arguing it. I like that when they...


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[Assistant] The second the Colts traded for Matt Ryan, to me, it looked like a no-brainer to jump on them to win the division when they're basically even money with Tennessee, where they're a plus money, like both teams are like,


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[Assistant] As we get closer to the season, people really start, you know, analyzing what Tennessee's got and they're going to start, like this could drift maybe a little closer to 130.


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[Assistant] Yeah, with Nick Foles. He beat Brady at Belgium with Nick Foles. Like he, like, and Urban Meyer couldn't even, Urban Meyer couldn't even last a season. He was basically handed the keys to do whatever he wanted in Jackson.


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[Assistant] The way that the market and sort of the general public are reacting to Trevor Lawrence after that one season is so bizarre to me because it's like, yeah, I mean, I understand that he's, you know, had a terrible season, but like,


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[Assistant] Urban Meyer ran that thing into the ground in Jacksonville. Like this is still a very good.


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[Assistant] Very good prospect who had some good moments over the course of the season of this disastrous season where you could see it's like clearly the arm talents there, the, the, the intellectual approach is there and Doug Peterson is a quarterback guru and he is, you know, just even if he's just a, like a couple of notches, even if he's like just a top, I don't know, a 10 coach, top 15 coach.


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[Assistant] It will improve Trevor Lawrence dramatically. So I like that. I like that a lot. You also had Trey Lance.


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[Assistant] For most valuable player at 60 to 1, that's a great number. I think it's like 35 to 1 in some spots. And I, I, I have also taken that, um, second year, second year, you know, second year player. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And I said, my bold prediction was Trey Lanceman's MVP and Wilson started ripping me. And I was like, look, the point of the point here is that it's like almost, it's a very similar situation to Mahomes and Andy Reid, right?


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[Assistant] Well, and then Wilson's point too is he's like, my homes and.


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[Assistant] Like I wouldn't take it, I mean, I wouldn't take it like 20 to one him to win MVP and I don't know how low it's going to get before the start of the season. Like some of these, some of these futures markets are getting just absolutely.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the, the Aventer rookie of the year is like the craziest market you'll ever see. You know, it was like all of a sudden we've got, um,


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[Assistant] George Pickens is like seven to one now. He's like 90 to one, you know, two weeks ago. It's just, it's moving all over the place cause there's no quarterbacks. But yeah, I mean like Trey Lance is.


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[Assistant] Based on what we saw from Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes, it's, you have to think about what goes into the mindset of voters.


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[Assistant] Creates, creates a more vertical, um, element to the, to the 49ers passing game. The Niners win the division and go like, you know, 14 and three. He is going to be in the mix for MVP. And, and the idea that he just can't win the award is to me is just crazy. So that's why I'm with you completely on that. Um, or you have the, uh, the Lions to make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] They're the first team in NFL history to lose, uhm, back to back games on 55, I think it's 55.


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[Assistant] Walk off, or maybe it's 50, walk off 55 yard field goals in back to back weeks. Like that's, I mean that, and one of them was that 65 yarder from Justin Tucker, which is ridiculous.


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[Assistant] Uh, two unders that I love from the NFC you have on here. I mean, it's to me, it's been obvious for a while. Like I think they have the two worst rosters in football, but the Bears under six and a half. I mean, like that's, that should be five and a half. I know they have an easy schedule. That's the only reason it's six and a half. This team is not, it ain't it.


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[Assistant] Like, unless, unless we're sleeping on Justin Fields just having some kind of magical second year breakout with a very, very, very questionable receiving core, then it's just hard to, it's hard to imagine this team


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[Assistant] Uh, winning seven games and then the Falcons under five wins. That's certainly, that's drifted down recently. It was six and a half.


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[Assistant] I think actually they posted Wintotals right after the Matt Ryan trade. So, you know, unfortunately the Falcons opened at like five and a half, but it's drifted down, it's even juiced up to the under. For good reason, that roster is no bueno.


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[Assistant] And by the way, like, Deshaun Watson, uh, played 16, the last full season he played, 2020, he played 16 games, led the league in passing yards and the Texans won four games. So like, he could even, like, you could even have a monster year from Fields and like, the Bears could still win four games. Like, that's not elegant. That's not the groundwork possibility.


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[Assistant] So you, you do have to, I mean, although I guess that's technically one loss for one team, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, thank goodness that's not a primetime game. They put a Falcons-Panthers game in primetime. Cool. Uhm, the, uhm, yeaah.


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[Assistant] The Bears took Justin Fields in the first round two years ago, or last year, I guess. Uhm, and the Falcons just took Desmond Ritter. But like these, both those teams could easily reboot a quarterback. You know, like, we saw, you saw what the, like,


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[Assistant] You heard, you saw what Raquel Smith said about how the front office, the new front office and the new regime is treating him in terms of contract negotiations. And you saw how the front office acted this off season.


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[Assistant] Some more, uh, awards bets that you took really quickly. Then we'll get out of here. Um, yeah. Christian McCaffrey, comeback player of the year.


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[Assistant] Came, yeaah, he came, he, he came back but then he got injured again, and...


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[Assistant] He missed, you know, he, he hadn't been healthy since 2019. Like he, you know, he played all 16 games in 2019. He's played 10 games the last two years. If McCaffrey plays all 16 games, this award is a lock job or all 17 games, excuse me. This award is a lock job for him because of.


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[Assistant] No, I agree. I think that number, that's the one guy that hasn't been like hammered in terms of the edge rushers who actually has an opportunity. And then you actually have your offensive rookie of the year and coach of the year from the same team.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And I think too with McDermott, um, you know, we talked about it. I did, uh, Andy and the whales, um, uh, pod. We did the award show, uh, the deep dive podcast and we talked about this and like, you know, the problem with the, the, a lot of times it is the coach of the year is given to whichever coach most exceeds expectations. Um,


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[Assistant] So it's a little tough for the bills to get there, but I do think McDermott is a different case, uh, because he's never won the award.


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[Assistant] Remember he had an argument for it when he got to the, got to the playoffs his first year, but McVeigh got it because they were both first year coaches. Um, he's a very well respected head coach.


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[Assistant] This Bills team, it would be a surprise if they didn't win 13 or 14 games, right? I mean, you know, especially with the down division. So if you can, if you get, if they go like, if they go 15 and two and are just clearly the best team in football and get the number one seed in the AFC.


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[Assistant] I agree with you. I think that McDermott will get a lot of love for this, even though, you know, there could be another coach who ends up with.


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[Assistant] Exceeding their win total by, by a bigger margin than the Bills, although that's three and a half games, so maybe.


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[Assistant] All right, uh, that'll do it for the futures bets and the home field advantage list. There's something else that I missed. We covered them pretty well, I think.


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[Assistant] I love the, uh, 49ers. Oh, uh, did you, did you look for a 49ers Ravens Super Bowl matchup? That's gotta be like.


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[Assistant] Do that, uh, use promo code white, I guess. And, uh, and that will get you, uh, something. A dollar on your first 30 days. Wow. A dollar for 30 days.


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[Assistant] You get all these futures and all the week one that would loop in week one of the NFL. You're going to get all that for a dollar. So go to sportsline.com.


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[Assistant] All right. Sportsline.com promo code white RJ as always, buddy, a pleasure. Thanks for hopping on for RJ. I'm Brinson. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. We will see you guys later.


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[Assistant] Last time I was on, John Breach was co- er, uh, guest hosting, and so I got a different flavor. Uh, he- I think he compared- I don't know if you listened to that one, but he thought you would listen just until you-


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[Assistant] He thought you would listen long enough to hear your own name and then exit. Uhm, I think he compared it to like, uh,


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[Assistant] What did he say? Oh, like, your hosting is like going to the bar, having some drinks.


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[Assistant] Whereas hosting with John Breach is like going out to a nice restaurant, having a glass of wine. I'd be interested to hear your, uh, your reaction to that.


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[Assistant] You felt pressured by radio hosts. I had to write this for the Pic Six newsletter. And so I thought about writing about, you know, you having a beef with radio hosts putting you on the spot.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you what, that just speaks to maybe how intellectual they viewed you coming onto the program, thinking they could, like, I mean, who expects to bring someone on the radio three o'clock in a July afternoon?


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[Assistant] And answer those kind of questions. They obviously thought Will Brinson was that guy.


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[Assistant] And I don't know because this is my first time with Nod. I don't know if I'll have the Philadelphia support with me here because Devo's usually like, if there's an Eagles related thing, you know, he's there, he's there for me.


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[Assistant] Summertime, a lot of lakes out here. I mean, there's, there's things to do. And, and you for the YouTube viewers, I mean, everyone can see you're now.


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[Assistant] Set up in a nice little, I don't know if I'd say mansion, but you've got stone fireplace. You've got.


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[Assistant] No, do I look like I'm sweating? No, I'm just saying, like, are they that hot?


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[Assistant] No, I was gonna ask, well I guess it'd be the listener's choice of a tattoo for you, but does it matter on the location? Like can we do a neck kind of a thing?


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm more just looking at the clock, like, you know, maybe the YouTube, I can't, I'm not looking at the comments right now. Like do they, would they prefer like you keep going like this for 10 minutes? They don't care. I don't think they care that much.


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[Assistant] I would just say like an overarching preface for these is it's very hard in any rankings and you've probably gone over it with positions, but even more so for coaches, it's very hard to completely separate these guys.


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[Assistant] Uhm, look, Lovey Smith, like you said, he's been to a Super Bowl. He's, he's a respected man and leader.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but it feels like you could be describing, I know he has way more head coaching experience, but it feels like you could just be describing David Colley here. An older coach, respected in the locker room.


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[Assistant] But yet, like, there's the, the reputation, the setup around them is just not there. And so, uhm, I think the last time Lovey Smith had a winning record as a head coach was 2012, when Jay Cutler was the Bears quarterback. And so, uhm, like, and that's, you know, including college, NFL, and so it's just,


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[Assistant] It just feels like another stopgap for the Texans and, you know, Lovey may be a good guy, good for him getting the job, but it's just not a very inspiring hire.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's part of that. So I think it's, you know, in close calls here, you're leaning philosophically, at least I am, towards the offensive mind. In today's NFL, can we build around the quarterback? Can we build a staff that's going to create an offense that can win?


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[Assistant] Like, frankly, I mean, he, he may, he, like, it's very probable that he'll keep the bears.


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[Assistant] Competitive, feisty on defense. I mean, that's his job. They added some good pieces there, but.


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[Assistant] I know this isn't all on him, the supporting cast that they put around Justin Fields, but uhm, I just don't think you see the pedigree or the setup. And that's, that's more on his surroundings, I think, but like if you were asking which of those new head coaches would I rather have, I mean,


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[Assistant] I know you don't want to hold completely just his background against him being a defensive coach, but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm just not as inspired. It's just a, it seems like a very dull, no offense to him, like good for him getting the job. If he proves me wrong, he's going to go up the rankings in 2023.


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[Assistant] Uh, but it's just like if you're drafting coaches, he just doesn't feel like he'd be at the top of the list.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean that is so tough because I feel like it would require multiple win improvement for some of these teams to be like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean like, like Robert Sala, like his, the, the foundational pieces have improved. Uhm, it's just a matter of.


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[Assistant] Like is his defense going to improve in addition to Zach Wilson growing as a quarterback with all those pieces around him?


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[Assistant] Like Josh McDaniels, it feels like the easier answer because this is the second go around. Presumably he's learned some things from the last time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, he's got some weapons there on offense. The problem is there, the division. I mean, I still think that, uhm, you know, if the offensive line doesn't hold up,


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[Assistant] You know, Derek Carr may not have the time to throw to Devontae Adams, you know, uh, 30 times in a game. And so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's very tough. And so, that's again why these guys are at the bottom. They're either total unknowns still, like Robert Sala, Arthur Smith, Dan Campbell.


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[Assistant] Uhm, or like McDaniels, they've been there, Dennis Allen, they've been there and they just, they flopped the first time. And so these are guys that we just need to see results and Matt rule like.


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[Assistant] The Panthers really don't have, like I think that their roster is actually underrated.


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[Assistant] No, I think so. I mean, it's not fantastic, but like I actually genuinely like the moves they made on the offensive line this offseason, which they botched that last year.


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[Assistant] I think it's a better offensive line. You've got DJ Moore, Christian McCaffrey on defense. There's even more pieces. Um, uh, you know, but, but Matt Rowe really needs.


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[Assistant] They're, you know, Nathaniel Hackett, in his case, he's getting the quarterback right away.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Mike McDaniel may or may not have his quarterback, but uhm, and he has only one year of coordinator experience, but he was kind of the right-hand man for Kyle Shanahan for a few years. Really spoke into like that run-first system that they ran.


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[Assistant] He, and he just like, he speaks the language, like this guy has personality, but he also has just a really, he's just very smart. I actually had a...


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[Assistant] So a very random story I worked on one time for CBS. I was writing about, uh, John David Washington, so Denzel's son, used to play running back in the NFL, very briefly.


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[Assistant] Went to Hollywood and I talked to Mike McDaniel for the story because he coached John David back in the UFL. If you remember the UFL.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think you could tell in that, you know, how eager he was to talk about this forgotten NFL player. You could tell how much like.


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[Assistant] People's and players personalities, like he gelled with them. And so, yeah, I think he's, he's going to be a really good fit Miami. It's just a matter of can that offense with those weapons and with the quarterback, can they work in the long term?


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[Assistant] They are perpetually, like, in the wild card space. Just perpetually.


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[Assistant] Maybe. So this is like the majority of head coaches. This is like that class of quarterbacks that's like you're, you're pretty happy with them. You might be looking for an upgrade, but you also think you could win with them. Like this is,


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[Assistant] So, it's a very, these were probably the toughest two rank because you've got like that elite crop


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[Assistant] You've got the guys who are total unknowns, and then these are the guys where you're just not totally sure in some areas.


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[Assistant] That's what I mean. This is a tough, like these guys are all like, if you put them on each other's teams, are the results drastically different? And, but Cliff Kingsbury.


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[Assistant] I was gonna, you know, coming into this, say I have no idea what to do with Cliff Kingsbury.


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[Assistant] To me, the middle of the pack is, is an appropriate spot for them because like they showed enough in year one that they don't belong in the like Robert Salah category. And part of that, I mean like Nick Sirianni didn't.


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[Assistant] Depends on I guess who you ask, but I don't know that the Eagles last year had a tremendous roster. The Jets obviously had a worse roster, but still.


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[Assistant] Uhm, with the talent they had, they both, you know, they both went 9 and 8. The Eagles made the playoffs, the Chargers didn't.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, they are certainly candidates, I think, to, to move up. They feel to me like candidates to be in like the Kevin Stefanski range of, in those first couple of years, establishing yourself as a playoff caliber head coach.


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[Assistant] With Sirianni, I think just showing the humility to, to, you know, when you come in as an offensive guy, you take pride in being able to call plays to run your offense and to be able to halfway through your first year.


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[Assistant] Turn the keys over a little bit and say, actually with Jalen Hurts, with this setup, we're not going to pass the ball ton.


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[Assistant] Just to have the humility to do that I think is important in a leader.


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[Assistant] I, I, my opinion hasn't wavered that, like changed that much on him. It's just so hard to, so like if you said, Cliff Kingsbury is the coach of the Eagles or the Chargers, like.


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[Assistant] But yea, I think that kind of hits on something though, just like this, kind of like with Kyle Shanahan, but there's like this, still this idea hanging around, like the idea of Cliff Kingsbury becoming this like hot, not like hot physically.


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[Assistant] Honestly, I mean, people would re- I mean, I don't want to be doing that, but people would read that.


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[Assistant] I don't think they're gonna be, and they have a tough schedule this year too.


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[Assistant] He was also very, like, extremely hard, like, because coming off, you lead this team to the Super Bowl, everyone in Cincinnati happily will, you know, keep buying them beers and all that, so it feels like you can't put him too far down.


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[Assistant] But yet, I mean, you just look at the record he had before Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and it's not his fault that he inherited them and then won with them.


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[Assistant] But uhm, I think the best thing Zach Taylor has going for him in these rankings and moving forward is just that, like as long as Joe Burrow stays healthy, as long as Joe Burrow stays on schedule, he's going to rise up. Uhm, unless his play calling like Mike McCarthy or in-game decisions are so glaringly obvious that the talent around him doesn't mask his own.


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[Assistant] You mentioned Nick Foles and I honestly feel like they are similar characters in terms of like, they are just very even keeled, like smooth in the way that they connect with people. Like it's not forced, like you said, it's not. So he, in a sense, he's almost been the perfect.


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[Assistant] And obviously, like, there's still things he has to get better at, like, there's some conservative tendencies, they have to get over the hump, but...


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[Assistant] So when I'm doing the tiers, I had to kind of break them off in a certain way. And I think Doug Peterson could very easily be thrust back into the guys category because to me,


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[Assistant] He was much more of a guy in his last few seasons with the Eagles, but in this category, I tried to put it as more proven commodities and so if they haven't won a title,


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I mean, you could, I guess, argue, but I still think you've probably seen a little more from Doug.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't like, I still don't love the, uhm, the way they allocated their resources this offseason. That's maybe not all on Doug. Uhm, but they are better. And yeah, that's what you're, like if there's just competence from,


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[Assistant] That Trevor Lawrence went number one overall as one of the safest, like, highly touted quarterback prospects.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so forgettable rookie season, but all the tools are there. And I think that on and off the field, Trevor Lawrence is much more comfortable right now with Doug Peterson.


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[Assistant] And yeah, I don't know how many wins that's going to translate to, but like you said, I mean, if you can just.


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[Assistant] Keep the ship floating in Jacksonville. That's what he was brought there to do, bring stability to the entire organization.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, there's not many others that are like...


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[Assistant] Right, I mean the guy played, yea, he was a physical player.


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[Assistant] Now that would be good. Dan Campbell and Mike Grable.


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[Assistant] Like is Cliff, is Cliff just, he just looks athletic or is he like? Cliff ain't running anywhere. Cliff's jogging. Uhm.


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[Assistant] No, with these guys, I mean with the exception of like, so we'll get to the very top, but.


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[Assistant] Like most of these, yeaah, I think it's like pick your preference here as far as like, I'm not like.


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[Assistant] The idea of Pete Carroll being my head coach in 2022 isn't all that exciting, but it's like, you can't, um, like last season was-


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[Assistant] Yeah, like last season was his first losing season in 10 years. Obviously he's dealing with the post Russell Wilson quarterback situation now, so might not get better. But you, you can't, I mean, it's such an established resume that is just starting to go down that you can't, like he, he still connects with the locker room and all that, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you can't dismiss like even if it's just like personality management with your quarterback, like that's part of being a head coach. You are there to be the CEO. And so.


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[Assistant] Like, yes, he has Aaron Rodgers, so did Mike McCarthy, who went 11 and 16 and won.


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[Assistant] In his final two seasons with the Packers and I think this year will be a very good like barometer where they might lean more on his, you know, the run game that he kind of helped build in, you know, coming out of Tennessee with Aaron Jones, AJ Dillon, now that Devonte Adams is gone. So it'll be a good test I think this year.


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[Assistant] And they didn't give him a super long leash as the defensive coordinator there.


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[Assistant] But he just like, the way he's built his staff, I mean, like, there's, there's just good, like, good staffers, I mean, with Brian Dable leaving, that will be, you know, that needs to be...


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[Assistant] I guess proven yet, but like Leslie Frazier, just the way he.


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[Assistant] He seems to just do everything very even keeled. He's, he's, he helped develop the quarterback even from the other side of the ball. So yeah, I think he's, he's done a good job, like shepherding the roster that they've had.


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[Assistant] It's very, but not in a, yeah, not in a like, uh, boring way.


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[Assistant] Dealers are 3-7 in the playoffs since losing the Super Bowl in 2010.


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[Assistant] But, but when you're always there, when the floor is so high, for that long, that's why you're giving them credit there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, if I were in a steel cage with them, maybe, but...


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[Assistant] I mean, I think this podcast would win the award that you're looking for.


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[Assistant] I mean, we're not debating if he's ranked at the top based on all time achievements. I mean, when you, every time you reread him, it's crazy. Like the fact that you actually have to write.


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[Assistant] He's 6 and 3 in Super Bowls, when some of these guys have been to none. Uhm, or 31 and 13 in the playoffs. Like it's, it's absurd.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, yes, and part of that, but you can't just, uh, dismiss his setup because he is also the general manager there. He is in charge of all of that. And so I think it's still true that you can't replicate the Bill Belichick preparation, the resume, all that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but to suggest, I think what I'm suggesting is that his formula for winning or whatever isn't ideal for this moment in the NFL, which, you know, it's star quarterbacks, it's speed, it's big plays, it's...


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[Assistant] And again, they can, they're gonna be competitive, they're gonna play spoiler in some games, they might beat the Bills again, like, but I'm just, uh, as much as I respect Bill Belichick all time, I don't think he's the best guy to draft as your coach in 2022.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and granted he got Mac Jones, the rookie quarterback to the playoffs, but similar to like in Philadelphia with Jalen Hurts, like you're still wondering like, okay, but what is the ceiling here? Are we just kind of dancing with, even if it's a young quarterback?


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[Assistant] Like are we just gonna run the ball and play and rely on defense? These old school kind of, uh, you know, approaches. So yeah, I still think.


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[Assistant] I don't know where the Patriot ceiling is when it used to be with Tom Brady, like that, that floor was-


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[Assistant] Yeah, the floor and ceiling was, yeah, it was so close with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick together.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm not like, you know, Devante Parker, like I'm not overly like.


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[Assistant] Not too much, honestly. I think it's more just the longevity of Andy Reid. Like, and again, you know, with, with Belichick, we're, we're giving him credit for the resume, but kind of bumping him down for recent results.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean with Andy Reid, it's just again, he's not immune to those in-game mistakes still this far into his career. Like he's 25 years into the job. You're still having people point out the clock miscues or whatever.


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[Assistant] But, you know, as long as it's kind of the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick effect here, as long as he and Patrick Mahomes are there, it just feels foolish to.


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[Assistant] Uh, count them out of a 12-13 win season, a home playoff game, and that's like, if, if you're getting that every year, um, like that's all.


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[Assistant] That's, that's the thing. Like you, you cannot ask for much more than that. Uhm, and so...


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[Assistant] And again, last year it was, it was, you know, they start slow still in the season and in games. That needs to be corrected. And there's some challenges offensively trying to make this work now without the huge deep threat. And maybe Valdez Scantling will be it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I still think yeaah, the longevity there combined with that consistency is what put Andy Reid up top.


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[Assistant] Definitely, and I think for the people that might say, well, he's just been gifted like star studded lineups because the Rams don't care about draft picks. I would say like, look at what he's done with some of those starters specifically. So you think about Stafford.


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[Assistant] Jared Goff, I think of even Odell Beckham Jr., the way they utilized him, like, he's not just getting these pieces and then...


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[Assistant] He can be a streaky play caller, but I think yeah, the record speaks for itself. The only reason I put in the story that you wouldn't like draft him as your short or long-term leader is because he's risen so fast that he has the flexibility to walk away from the game early.


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[Assistant] Listen, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta family, you gotta friends, you gotta


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[Assistant] You go out to the bar, you meet Frank Reich's kid, like relatives.


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[Assistant] Do you ever like, at like birthday parties, like do, like, moms and dads of, of, of like, of like,


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[Assistant] Kids, friends, like, do they, do they come up? Do they like, I mean, I guess they all know you already, but.


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[Assistant] Uh, me and Devo were debating whether Wilson actually went to Italy or if he just sat at home in his basement and told us he went to Italy, which is completely plausible.


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[Assistant] With a glass of wine and he's going to come back all refined. He's going to have a monocle.


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[Assistant] I just used the QR code, it took me right there. That's all you gotta do people.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't always use the QR codes as often as I probably should. Now whenever I see these things on like Burger King commercials, I'm gonna start using them. Why not?


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[Assistant] I'm not sure how that works, Brinton. Uhm, I'm also not the person you should talk to about that.


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[Assistant] Knowing Brinton, I feel like he would get a tattoo of him getting a tattoo. That would be a classic Brinton move.


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[Assistant] Every day. And tell your friends about every day. And tell their friends. It's that six degree thing. If you tell six friends, and they tell six friends, eventually you cover the whole entire world. That's correct, Rich. I'm not sure how long it takes. You eventually get there though.


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[Assistant] So $40 million and he's thrown 267 career passes.


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[Assistant] He has been paid $150,000 per pass thrown in the NFL.


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[Assistant] If Tom Brady had also been paid $150,000 per pass the throne, he would have made $1,695,430,711 by this point.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know what, I think being a long snapper, assuming you know how to long snap, because, you know...


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[Assistant] All the rules favor you. It's not like the teams can take cheap shots at you. Uh, you see a lot of these guys have been doing this for over 10 years and you only have to go in the field for five or six plays a game. A lot of pressure on those five or six plays. A lot of pressure.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I think long snapper, if I had to be a starter, that is probably right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, the Ravens won eight games. They went eight and nine last season, even though they had like 412 people on injured reserve.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and they just kept piling up. I mean, you mentioned the running back injuries. Lamar Jackson got injured and the fact that they


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[Assistant] They were on the cusp of the playoffs and despite all these injuries, I mean, they probably should have made it. You look at just how badly they tumbled down the stretch. I think they were the first team in NFL history to start six and two and not make the postseason, something like that. And so.


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[Assistant] They lost their last six games, Brenton, and so even with all these injuries, they were still on the cusp of making the postseason. They had a, they lost to the Steelers twice by a total of four points. Uh, they had the crazy loss to the Packers because they decided to go for


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[Assistant] Well, and that's the thing is that look, you know, after the 2019 season, everybody was taking Lamar in the first second round, they're taking him early in these fantasy drafts. And now that he's coming off this injury riddled season where he wasn't great, he just lost Hollywood Brown, uh, people are sleeping on him. There is no reason the Ravens cannot be one of the best teams they have seen this year.


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[Assistant] Andy Reid has been so good at changing his system to take advantage of what he has. He has been able to do that for decades. We can go back to his years with the Eagles. They went to four straight NFC title games in 2004. They had Taro and they, it's just,


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[Assistant] If they have receivers, you know, Reed tells his quarterback what to do. If they don't have them, they do something else and, and so.


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[Assistant] I do think this offense is going to be able to adjust without Tyreek Hill, but I do think one thing they lose is just kind of this big clutch, big play element that Tyreek Hill always seemed to come up with. We saw him do it.


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[Assistant] Uh, against the Ravens, we saw them do it against the Bills in the divisional playoff game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, where he just comes up because he's so much faster than everyone on the field. Uh, but as far as like being able to just drive the ball up and down the field, they brought in a lot of receivers, whether it's, uh, Juju Smith Schuster.


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[Assistant] Or Mark has bought a scantling. There's guys to throw the ball to and Patrick Mahomes is going to find him.


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[Assistant] And, and, you know, one of the points I was making earlier with, uh, Eagles getting a Super Bowl in 2004, Andy Reid's the coach, Terrell Owens is their leading receiver. They also got the NFC title game in 2003 without Terrell Owens. Do you know who their leading receiver was that year, Brinson? I will give you four facts.


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[Assistant] Wrong! I was gonna give you 4,000 guesses, I don't think you would've gotten it, I had to look it up. Devo! Do you know who the Eagles leading wide receiver was in 2003?


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[Assistant] Evo does not know. Or he's not listening. Either way, he's Google.


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[Assistant] And he's gonna Google it and then chime in with it. Anyway, the answer is Todd Pinkston. The Eagles went to the NFC title game with Todd Pinkston as their leading receiver. And that's an Andy Lee offense.


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[Assistant] You're getting the NFC title game with Todd Pinkston. I just believe in Andy Reid. That's more what it comes down to.


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[Assistant] Well, I think you also have a situation where the NFL is probably trying not to infringe on the CFL. You don't want to go up there and destroy your brethren, uh, and take down the Canadian football league. And you know, like you said, Brenton, they have.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, they're not trying to take out the Canadian Football League.


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[Assistant] There's no reason, there's never been bad blood between the two leagues. It's not like this is a startup, like the USFL or the XFL. This is an established league that's kinda just been doing their thing north of the border, uh, that no one in America really follows that closely.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, you hit the, the Bills playing in Canada. They, they, they played one game a year in Toronto from 2008 to 2013, but attendance kind of died down. The Bills wanted to get out of the contract. So it does feel like it wasn't getting.


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[Assistant] Canadian cities would have the kind of support to fill a 60,000 seat stadium.


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[Assistant] Uh, every Sunday. So yeaah, I think that it's just a multitude of issues.


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[Assistant] In, uh, across oceans. That's their thing now. Let's go to one end. Let's go to Germany, not Canada.


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[Assistant] Well, right. And I didn't mention Montreal because that would probably be your third or fourth option. If you're not putting a team in Toronto or Vancouver, I'm not sure why you're going to Montreal.


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[Assistant] I think it's like four hours from, if you're driving from Buffalo. So that's not, I, I don't know how far it's from. Yeah, it's all.


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[Assistant] You're gonna put Kenan Allen and Mike Williams last?


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[Assistant] I mean, it just says pass catchers. If you're gonna include Kelsey, why can't you include Ernie Bax?


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[Assistant] Nah, if it's a running back who extensively catches passes out, if they caught more than 50 passes, I think they qualify. I don't know what Austin Neckler's number is, but I just picked that up.


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[Assistant] Caught 70 passes. He counts as a pass catcher. He caught 70 passes.


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[Assistant] Cause we don't know how well Juju Smith-Juicer and Marques Valdez-Gantling are gonna fit in the Chief System. They might be awesome, but we don't know. And, uh... Yea, maybe the Chargers are two anyway. I'm putting the Chargers at two.


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[Assistant] Darren Waller and Devonte Adams are a solid just with those two. And then you throw in Hunter Rempro.


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[Assistant] When you, when you talk about, if you talk about the top three and a tight end or, or even if you want to include Joe Mixon as a pass catcher.


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[Assistant] The Bengals are number one in the division by so far and then there's a gigantic monstrous gap the size of the Grand Canyon and then maybe you get to number two or there's even more gap before you get to number two.


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[Assistant] I mean, that one's a little bit tougher. I mean, the Steelers have Chase Quaypool and Deontay Johnson.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's possible. But it's also not possible.


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[Assistant] But it doesn't matter because all they need is Mark Andrews. That's all Lamar loves to throw to. Loves those tight ends. Get the ball to Mark Andrews.


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[Assistant] Well, just to be clear, if people listen to Mailbags regularly, we did get a question a week or two ago that said which team would tank for Archmanning. So this is different in the sense that asking...


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[Assistant] Uh, can we see multiple teams taking multiple years? Uh, I think the answer to that is no, because you don't need to tank for multiple years. You literally only need to tank for one year, and it's the year that Arch Manning is eligible to be drafted. That's it. That's all you have to tank. So if you find out he's definitely giving the 2026 draft,


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[Assistant] You don't need to tank in 2024 or 2025. You tank in 2026. You only tank one year. You get the quarterback and then you're successful. So, uh.


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[Assistant] That is, uh, maybe the Colts will end up getting Archmanian in 2026 then.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I do think that, and this did ask about


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[Assistant] Would this expedite a draft process similar to the NHL and NBA? I don't know if it would, but I would love to see a lottery system in the NFL. I think that would add some suspense. I think the teams.


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[Assistant] Uh, who don't make the playoffs. If you have a team that went 6 and 11 and did make the playoffs and knew they had a shot at the number one overall pick, like if the NFL had that ping, a ping pong lottery show and they aired it on national television, you're watching, everyone's watching, we're live podcasting.


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[Assistant] I was gonna say if Brian Flores wins this lawsuit, they might start worrying about it. That is the thing that could get the ball rolling on a lottery type system. Get the ball rolling? Ha ha ha.


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[Assistant] You need to get a holdable Severin Tobias and ask him, what are we doing here, man?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I cannot think. I thought Kaleo Mac, but I was like this defensive player. Why are we talking fantasy and defense?


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[Assistant] This is why I only join fantasy leagues that are normal. That's it. I have my 12-team league, I do my snake giraffe, and then I don't deal with trades. I won't trade anyone.


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[Assistant] I think what's happening is it's a Devo Burner account asking this question to see how much he could confuse you on the podcast live.


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[Assistant] Can I listen to a podcast where you just, uh, punch in trade scenarios, fantasy trade scenarios, live? That should be what we do every Friday instead of mailbags.


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[Assistant] Yeah, my thought is that don't play in dynasty fantasy leagues because then you spend your whole entire life becomes consumed by trying to figure out whether or not you should take trades and who you should draft. I'm telling you, stick with the 12 team snake drafts. That's all I do, Brinton. I don't go out of my wheelhouse. I stay in my lane.


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[Assistant] No dynasty leagues, no rookie leagues, no kicker leagues, although I'd love to be in a kicker league. That's it. I'm in a 12 team league. We do a snake trap. That's it.


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[Assistant] Prisco's in there like trying to draft Terry Bradshaw and Roger Staubach and you guys are like, they're, they're not playing anymore Prisco. What are you doing?


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[Assistant] That, that, so he automatically loses. He's basically forfeiting the season by doing that.


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[Assistant] Brinton, I guess you cashed the check I sent you. Is that why we're pushing the newsletter so much? Uh, yeaah.


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[Assistant] He said if I bought him a flight to Costa Rica, which is where he is right now, which is why he's outside, that he would push the newsletter all week. So I guess this worked out for everyone.


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[Assistant] So what Brent is telling us is that he is literally in a stranger's backyard. Uh, so if there's any gunfire or anything and he gets up and runs, it is because the police have been called, uh, Brenton is breaking and entering and drinking, having fun from some random person's backyard.


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[Assistant] You would be the first person in the history of humankind to be drinking water from a red solo cup, if that's the truth.


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[Assistant] Well, so since you waited, you made me wait five minutes to start the podcast. So I literally didn't put my top 10 in the rundown until the moment this podcast started. It is in there now, but it was not in there at any point over the past 24 hours.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's pretty similar to Patrick's except, yeah, we'll just, alright, we'll go. Let's do it.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right. Yeah, you know, Slay's interesting because I feel like people have kind of, you know, the eagles got him from the lions and it felt like everybody kind of forgot that he existed.


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[Assistant] Uh, but, you know, remember how bad the Eagles secondary was before he got there? I mean, they were literally the secondary that you were making running jokes about, uh, that they were never gonna be any good until they fixed that and then boom, they bring in Darius Slay and he had a great year last season and


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[Assistant] I think that he probably fits in well with these two other guys. You look at Marlon Humphrey, you look at Denzel Ward.


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[Assistant] I think they're top ten corners, obviously, because they're on my top ten list, but I don't think, you know, and you can judge this because it's not your top ten list, that you would put any of these guys any higher, uh, you know, because I feel like when you have, when somebody makes an argument, like, oh, how'd you leave this person off, like, why is Kenny Moore not on your list, Breach?


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[Assistant] Well then, you have to, not only do you have to put Kenny Moore on the list, but you have to take someone else off the list.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then Denzel Ward obviously just got a huge contract extension. He's one of those, if you're an NFL defensive coordinator, what you want is a guy who excels in man to man coverage. You can take receivers on one to one because that kind of frees up you to do whatever you want with the rest of the defense. And obviously when we get to the top of the list, we'll talk about one of the best


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[Assistant] Well, I mean like Deion Sanders is in the Hall of Fame and he tackled like two people in his entire career. So if you excel at covering, then the tackling as far as stopping being part of the run game doesn't really matter. You know, you obviously don't want to get guys get outside you and give up the long run. So all you have to do is push the guy out of bounds. You don't need to be able to tackle.


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[Assistant] Ward's gonna have a lot of challenges this year because the Browns obviously play the Bengals twice. They also play the Chargers. Chargers are loaded, uh, at receiver. They play the Buccaneers pretty loaded. They play the Bills pretty loaded. They play the Saints pretty loaded. So, uh, Ward's gonna have his work cut out for him this year.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's crazy to look at the Browns 2018 draft, not to go completely off track here, where you have Baker Mayfield, probably almost certainly gone. Then you have Denzel Ward, great pick. Then you have Austin Corbett, already gone. Uh, and then you have Nick Chubb, superstar. So it's like your top four picks were, it was so hit or miss.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right. This is who they got in the Mahomes train. That's where we're going with this.


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[Assistant] Brenton, I smell a Brenton Twitter poll coming. Cause if you ask 32 NFL General Managers, would you rather have Patrick Mahomes or would you rather have Josh Allen and Trinnebius White?


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[Assistant] Four straight AFC title games, two of the past three Super Bowls, that we're talking about the fact that you could argue that Bills didn't lose. You know, that seems a trend you should get smashed on. You lose every time, but, uh, you know, getting Trevius White, it's all worked out for him.


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[Assistant] Yes, if you are listening to the audio version, definitely go check out YouTube because Brenton is in a backyard in Costa Rica, uh, Raleigh, Costa Rica.


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[Assistant] Well, real quick with Trinavius White though, and that is the whole thing. You're coming off an ACL tear. That's such a huge injury for a cornerback because obviously,


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[Assistant] Speed's more important than them than almost any other position and lateral movement and everything they have to do with their legs.


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[Assistant] You just need to see him on the field and comfortable again, uh, before, you know, before I go put him up in the top five. Uh, like you just said, he could shoot right up before talk about this list next year and he's number three. It wouldn't be surprising at all, but you just want to make sure he hasn't lost a step after a serious injury like that.


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[Assistant] Well, real quick with Latimore, with Latimore, he's going to be playing in a totally revamped secondary this year. I know you said that now that Dennis Allen's head coach, this might become more of a defensive team, but it really felt like they were making that movement over the past two years because Drew Brees was kind of, uh,


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[Assistant] We all saw Drew Brees in 2020. He could barely throw the ball 20 yards downfield and that became kind of a defensive team. Last year with Jameis Winston and Jameis gets injured. I mean, we saw the games where they beat Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. They swept them because of how well their defense played. I mean, they shot out Tom Brady. Tom Brady doesn't ever get


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[Assistant] And then obviously Marcus May also, so two new safeties back there, um, who are both talented. So I think that, uh, you know, Marshawn Latimore is going to be the captain of that secondary. Uh, and if that defense is going to be good, it's going to be because of him.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, you know what, my wife actually wants to watch that this weekend, so we probably will. Holiday weekend, get some extra time.


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[Assistant] Alright, you know, so we talked about the ranking of...


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[Assistant] And why he's out at seven, part of that is because he's coming off an injury. And I think that some people might have Jair Alexander in their top two, which is fine. I obviously am not gonna disagree with that.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's bad to have that number three is a good corner, but same thing. You always have the injury consideration. It's not as big of a deal for me because it's not a leg injury that he's trying to bounce back from. I think that's a little bit more serious for a corner. Uh, he's dealing with a shoulder injury.


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[Assistant] So, just because he missed 13 games last season, he was kind of slow to get back.


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[Assistant] That is the only reason that he is there. Obviously he came back.


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[Assistant] And he did play in the playoffs, but I don't think we really got, you know, it was a snowy cold game. We didn't really get a, and the 49ers aren't a team.


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[Assistant] That is, you know, yes, they have Devo Samuel, but they're running the ball with him and that's not someone who's gonna, uh, scare the Packers set. The four-hours offense is not one that is gonna throw downfield in the snow in negative 20 degree weather. So Jair Alexander didn't really have to worry about that.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I think that will be interesting. I do think that he will have another big season. I think J.C. Jackson is...


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[Assistant] A guy is someone to watch here because look, Bill Belichick's defense completely revolves around having kind of a shutdown corner. We've, we've seen that he loves that. That's why the one time they went out and spent money with Stefan Gilmore, uh, let's get him in here. They went to Superbowl. And so is Jackson a product?


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[Assistant] Of playing in a Belichick defense or is he just overall awesome? The Patriots were dumb for letting him go. I think that's going to be something, uh, to watch. So is he going to take a step back? Cause it's going to be a Malcolm Butler situation where as soon as he leaves New England, he just falls off the radar and is not great anymore. Um, so we'll see what Jason Jackson.


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[Assistant] We spare no expense on the Pixix podcast. Princeton has a fanboy who literally is bringing him fans, uh, and is in Costa Rica. Me. He's in Costa Rica. Bunny ears.


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[Assistant] That can be a struggle. And then obviously,


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[Assistant] You know, I think AJ Torrell is probably one of the underrated guys just because he plays for the Falcons and not someone you get to hear about a lot and probably not someone that most people have seen a lot of because, you know, who's watching Falcons games? They were so bad last season.


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[Assistant] And people probably aren't going to watch much of them this season, but when you talk about, uh, most of these guys are first round picks that panned out, which is just surprising. Uh, and you know, he was the 16th overall pick in 2020 was good. His rookie year was even better. Uh, his.


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[Assistant] Last year, last season, and it's, it's really surprising because of how bad that defense is. It's really him just shutting down his side of the field. But if the Falcons had any other good defenders that you think that defense could be good, they have a good foundation with him, but you know, nothing else.


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[Assistant] It is, it's crazy how long he has sustained that success because, look, you just lose a small step in the NFL and receivers are blowing by you, like we saw Jamar Chase doing the suit roll against Ramsey.


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[Assistant] But Jaywin Ramsey has been good for so long. I mean, we're talking, what, his rookie year was 2016. Uh, that Jacksonville defense in 2017 was one of the best of this century, one of the best since 2000. You're probably top 15 maybe in NFL history. I mean, they were that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it is crazy to think about, but there's always, you know, you can do that with every team where you just second guess, uh, look who got picked, taken after. But when you think about like the person taken right after, I do think that changes.


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[Assistant] That makes you feel almost a little more foolish because obviously Zeke Elliott was taken with the 4th overall pick in 2016 and Jaylen Ramsey was taken with the very next pick at 5th overall and that was when everyone was saying don't take running back in the first round and if you do, certainly don't take one in the top half of the first round. Wait till the end of the first round.


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[Assistant] When you're the undisputed best player in the draft, you don't always live up to the hype. Jalen Ramsey has absolutely lived up to the hype.


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[Assistant] You know, well, I was looking at his list and I think the only, I'm not, like, I don't hate, he had Kenny Moore on the list, I, I, you know, Kenny Moore would have been in my top 12. Trey Diggs would have been in my top 15. Uh, you know, obviously-


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[Assistant] I mean, he was a coverage liability. Burn a few times. Yeah, there was, I mean, he had an up and down rookie year. His highs were really high and his lows were really low. Uhm, but he's definitely.


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[Assistant] You know what, like we said, this is me putting a bangles, but Patrick is a Cowboys guy and he, he has digs at five. Uh, and you know, like we said, digs had a huge, as far as interceptions go, had a huge, huge, huge rookie season in that category. Um, but other than that, you know, I feel like the list, his list was pretty solid.


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[Assistant] Uh, maybe you switch, who would you do? Switch AJ Torrell and Denzel Ward?


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[Assistant] It's also hard to rank players coming off their rookie season. We'll talk about the kickers next week.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I had to rank Evan McPherson. Do you put him in the top 10?


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[Assistant] You know, and we'll find out next week, but it's just when they only have- Well, and how- You do how high?


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[Assistant] Who is the head of Justin Tucker? Uhm, but that's how you kind of feel about, uh, Trey Diggs here is that if, even if he gets better, there's no way he's going to match his interception total from this past season. I mean, it's almost borderline impossible. And so,


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[Assistant] Just because there is some luck involved interceptions, not just your playmaking ability. And just because he has few interceptions doesn't mean he's going to be worse next season. So, and he's got a lot of room for improvement. Uhm, yeaah, so I think he can definitely be better.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think I'm seeing a $20 chair from Target and I can confirm long term.


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[Assistant] We're gonna hope so. We can chat about the bucks for a minute. This is a little longer than normal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm not used to this position where they're like really considered a favorite or the sleeper team, but everybody is on this sleeper team this time around. I think it may be a little overhyped at the moment, but that's what we do during the offseason. They've had a good offseason, but


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[Assistant] They're far from perfect, uhm, but I love all cowboy slander, so I'm in for that.


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[Assistant] It really relies on the quarterback. It's not the skill position players on offense. It's definitely not the offensive line. Maybe the back seven to an extent on defense, but you added James Bradbury. I feel pretty good with where things are at.


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[Assistant] But they were not on your list last week, correct? Of teams that were ready to take the next step or were you just trying to


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[Assistant] Okay. You don't want to give the pick six crowd like your best stuff. You say that.


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[Assistant] I am not like counting on a ton from him immediately, maybe in like the first eight weeks, but if he can be like a second half of the year performer and get healthy, get right, I'm looking forward to it.


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[Assistant] It is probably gonna be his last season, but I wouldn't be shocked if next year he said the same thing.


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[Assistant] Big boy, hefty Leonard Furnett. He's always kind of pushing the limits. You know, there's some reports that he's 260, he's saying 245, but, uh, I think, uh, enlarged version of Leonard Furnett this season. Enlarged.


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[Assistant] Put em in another division and I'm totally buying into this. I cannot see it.


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[Assistant] Put em in, you in like the AFC South, and I could see a regression from the Bucks, but not in this division.


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[Assistant] I don't know, we'd have to go player by player, but give me Colts and Titans over, and even the Jags give a little bit of competition.


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[Assistant] There should be the Super Bowl favorite out of the NFC.


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[Assistant] I get why they are the prohibitive favorite in their division, but to be that much favored over the Packers, the defending champ Rams. I know we don't really like where the 49ers have been positioned all off season, but


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[Assistant] Yeah, Barry's basically synopsis of this podcast is button my shirt, curse a couple times, and go home. Oh, that's great. Like he doesn't roll in, you know, with a Diet Coke. That's right. Like four minutes before, he's like,


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[Assistant] Exactly right. Right. Without a doubt. So a reminder, last year in round one there were six trades. The year before that there were eight. There's projected five to six quarterbacks to go in the first round this year. That kind of always cranks up the amount of trades. The receiving talent and offensive line talent can do that as well. And it's kind of a good reminder, you know,


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[Assistant] Even the best people at this, you know, are far off from having a high hit rate. Now, somebody who did knock it out of the park in terms of trades last year, Daniel Jeremiah predicted the Texans to trade up to pick number two and three last year was probably predicted. Yea, the first time in history a mock draft has really nailed it.


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[Assistant] And to, you know, kind of put it in perspective, DJ last year had Bryce Young, Stroud, Will Anderson all correct. Then he had Will Levis to the cults of football. It goes to show you, like, even the best guys can be, you know, 25 spots off on the player.


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[Assistant] The thing I find Chris hardest too with the quarterback conversation is even if you know people there or connected to there,


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[Assistant] The amount of, like, convoluted opinions in one building. Like, you can have an offensive coordinator that likes the consensus fifth quarterback in the draft number one. And then you could have a GM that's like, I would never take that guy there. And you don't know who's gonna win. You just have no idea who's gonna win.


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[Assistant] I heard it was fine though. It ended up being fine. I'm sure.


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[Assistant] They were openly not happy that everyone was there. But I heard at the end of the day, it wasn't like I'm not coming. Exactly. Exactly. So let's jump right into the mock trap. Because that's kind of where it has to start. Obviously number one, you're going to have the Bears take Caleb Williams because the Bears are taking Caleb Williams. Like what do you want us to say?


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[Assistant] And we'll get to their 9th overall pick that's only going to make the team that much better.


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[Assistant] Number two, the commanders, you have them going, Jayden Daniels.