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[Assistant] You know, instead of like, hey, drop back, sit in the pocket, we got some good pass rushers, read a coverage, oh no, you gotta throw into this hole, and we got some linebackers and safeties who are fast and long, right? You have a good defensive line too. Exactly right. I know, exactly right. So I didn't love that approach overall there by the, the Dolphins, but that's the way they play. The Dolphins are still one of the best teams.


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[Assistant] That speaks to the culture of their team there. And you know, Miami will get there, but that's Shanahan.


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[Assistant] There are some tough, crazy son of a bitches out there, for lack of a better way to say it. I'm saying that in an endearing way, because that's what they are. They just, they don't mind the fight.


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[Assistant] And the physicality, and we gotta grind it out for four quarters and all that. And that's, that's Shanahan and who he is. And that's why, uh, they're a damn good football team, but man, yeah, I don't know if I can say they're a Super Bowl team right now. We're going to have to evaluate that as we go.


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[Assistant] You know, I think what we're seeing here, first off, Joe Burrow is in the MVP conversation. And I think, you know, hopefully everybody, maybe people will get off my back about my comments that Burrow was a little better than Brady to start the year. Okay. I mean, there's a lot of people that were at me on that in this building and everywhere else.


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[Assistant] The Bengals are getting closer and, are getting, they're one of, they're really a complete football team. I think that's the thing that I'm really impressed by. You know, Buffalo, of course we know can play some defense too.


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[Assistant] So they got some, I think really when I look at those two teams and in some ways I think they might be more complete than Kansas City. Kansas City still has the great offense and they have playmakers on defense. In totality though, I don't think Kansas City's defense is as good as the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals can kind of do it all.


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[Assistant] The Bengals can stop the run, they can cover man to man, they're gridded zone, they're creative on the back end and in their defense in general. Lou Anarumma is another guy that deserves to be in the head coaching conversation after this year. And this is two years in a row of their defense just being top notch.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that was a big time win, it really was. And yeaah, they got Kansas City's number, it's real. You know, the defense is talented enough to slow them down, and then with Burrow?


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[Assistant] Again, just getting the ball out of his hands, knowing when to hold it. They got a little bit of a run game going here. The offensive line has definitely turned the corner to where the Bengals, I think, are getting close to the conversation of, you know, one of the better teams in football. If not, they're really probably there. They're one of the best teams in football.


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[Assistant] Jermaine Pratt, North Carolina State, he just, he had his hand in there from the second he made contact.


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[Assistant] And Kelsey just, it just, sometimes you get stuck as a ball carrier where you go, oh no, he's really got me. And it looked like Kelsey was trying to go to the ground because he was like, I know he's going to get it. I can't hold it much longer. I wouldn't even call that a mistake, honestly. It was just a great play.


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[Assistant] No. He did. He did. You're right. He tucked it away. It wasn't like he was holding it out there like a loaf of bread. Yeah. Uh, it was a good play. And you know, sometimes we need to say that more instead of just blaming people. Uh, but yeah, I understand the question there. The game, listen, if they play again,


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[Assistant] They're never going to blow out the bangles or just control it. The bangles match up well with them because of the coaching.


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[Assistant] You know, they have pass rushers, and they mix it up. That's the other thing too.


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[Assistant] You know, they got, they blitzed a few times. That's how Valdez-Scantling caught some of the big passes. They did some of their, you know, rush three, drop eight, like they did in the AFC Championship game and did all that. So they have the,


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[Assistant] Not only the people, but the scheme on the defense to make things tough on Kansas City's offensive times. And then, you know, the other side of the ball is, you know, Kansas City's defenses, it's good. It's real good. It's not great, right? But it's good. And they just make plays and opportune moments. That's kind of how I view Kansas City. But Burrow is like, it's hard to strip sack him, right?


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[Assistant] You know, it's hard to get him when he's playing like this to throw a ball in the coverage or make a bad throw. He kinda does-


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[Assistant] Surgical machine right now. And that's why he deserves to be in the MVP conversation. Uh, but that was a lot of fun to watch yesterday. It really was. Uh, there's a lot of things to talk about in that game, and we'll break it down more on Wednesday. Um, but yeaah, I think it's, the only thing I question with the Bengals going down the stretch here, is their schedule. They have a brutal schedule.


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[Assistant] And that's where I just, you know, I, I, they're a team that has officially crossed the line for me to where I go, Bengals come in the Super Bowl. I don't think I would have said that three or four weeks ago. Now I'm in like, whoa, defense, DJ Reader back, they're healthy on that side of the ball. The, I mean, run the ball again every week a little bit consistently, right?


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[Assistant] Does he give him more options? I don't think he does. I don't think so, but I don't think there's a much of a gap there. You know, I don't look at it and go like, oh man, when they get Joe mixing back, they're going to be. Now, P-Rod's a good player. I mean, there's a reason he's in on third downs through the year and in on the Super Bowl, right? On the third down where everyone's like, why is he in the game? He's good.


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[Assistant] You can see he can catch the ball, he's great at pass blocking, and he's a sledgehammer runner.


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[Assistant] You know, and they got a little attitude going on right now. I mean, man, as bad as that O line looked in week four and five, I just can't believe it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, that's what I mean. You know, they're not always the greatest defense, but Chris Jones, you know, we can always count on him coming in here on a Monday or a Wednesday and go, man, Chris Jonesy.


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[Assistant] We don't really care about it. And then him, and what's scary about him, and the other thing I just, I notice, whether it's the Tennessee Titans who are, I think, one of the best zone teams in football, they just...


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[Assistant] Uhm, so, I'm impressed with the Bengals. And Joe B is definitely, for me, with, you know, Josh Allen, Mahomes, Hertz, Joe Burrow, MVP combo.


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[Assistant] We're still using those nodes. All your hardware. He's the greatest manipulator of zone coverage in the drop back pass game in the game right now. There's nobody better.


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[Assistant] He literally has like a sixth sense where he's like, he'll be looking down the middle of the field and he'll like feel that the weak side linebacker didn't really drop enough to his zone and he'll just be like, boom, and he throws it to the back and the back gets seven yards. And then you're just like, gosh, I don't even, how the f*** do you even see that? Look at that. I mean, that's where he's, he's next level. And then he does not let the pass protection issues or what they were,


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[Assistant] He's kind of took it in his own hands. He's like, don't worry, I'll just get it out quick and I'll be slippery son of a bitch like I am and move around the pocket. And I think Frank Clark said some nice things about him after the game that jumped out to me that I saw. He was just like, first of all, he's a bigger human than everybody realizes and he doesn't get enough credit for how he moves. You know, forget some of the runs he made, but he's, he's,


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[Assistant] Brady and Manningish within the pocket. He just knows exactly where to slide and move and stay in the right spot. And that's where


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[Assistant] Exactly right. And that's kinda how Minnesota's been winning football games. I mean, it's another game where you go, I don't think Minnesota was the better team on the field, but they won the game.


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[Assistant] And it's, there's something to it. You know, it's, it's one of those now where you can't go like, oh, it's luck or whatever. It's, they're comfortable and they, they win situational football more times than not. And I think that's the, that's the big thing that's putting them over the edge. But yeah, they're, they're, they're kind of cool with like, hey, you want to move the ball? Great. But it's going to be hard to score a touchdown. You know, this was a game.


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[Assistant] You know, Mike White played good. He did a lot of good things. Had the early interception. The Jets made some mistakes and did some things that they had not done here over the last seven, eight weeks. Minus Patriot games, right? Uh, one.


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[Assistant] I mean, start the game off with the interception by Mike White, wasn't a good play, a good read, whatever, good throw, nothing about it was good. That gave them a, a field goal, the Vikings, uh, the Vikings, right?


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[Assistant] Then, you know, the next ride, the Vikings, to go down 10-3, there's a bunch of, you know, four yard runs, and some bad penalties by the Jets. That really let them get down there in field goal position, or in position to score the touchdown. It wasn't like they were like,


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[Assistant] You know, picking apart the jets or anything like that. It was just a little bit of like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Jets being undisciplined and the Vikings were patient. Then...


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[Assistant] You know, they let up a big pass to Jaylen Rieger. I don't know if you remember that. They kinda had it covered.


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[Assistant] Cousins just threw it up. They had two people there. They haven't been a team that's letting, been letting up those type of big plays. That was a big moment. And then they panicked.


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[Assistant] Down 17-3, ball midfield, and I thought Salah panicked and like, wait, the Vikings like, you know, hang in there. It's been hard. Your defense is okay. They go for it on a fourth and one in midfield. Don't get it.


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[Assistant] And the Vikings got a field goal to make it 20 to 3. So, there were some things that Jets did, uh, but they battled, they hung in there. But yeaah, the fact that they couldn't punch the ball in the end zone was certainly, you know, one of the biggest issues.


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[Assistant] Damn, it is. Who tied last? I know, the tie is, the tie is killing me. Uh, damn, who had the tie last year? Hold on, alright, so just tell me, who is it? It was the Pittsburgh Steelers.


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[Assistant] I would agree. It's a different game in the playoffs. And then, you know, just with the exhaustion of, hey, it's win or go home, the coaches take a few more chances, players are a little more alert, and hey, the adrenaline of the playoffs and things, they don't mess up as much.


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[Assistant] Yes, I agree with you. That does not translate to, oh wait, you're going to win one score games in the playoffs against teams that are, you know, are really good and are really well coached.


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[Assistant] And, you know, have a lot of information on what you do, uh, in that situation. Yeah, I'm with you. I don't think that translates necessarily. And that's where I'm a little bit still...


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[Assistant] I know they're good, obviously. I'm not trying to say that, but I don't put them in the elite part of the NFL for the same thing we've been talking about for weeks. There's just very few times where I've watched them and gone,


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[Assistant] Woah, they're so dominant or this is so great about them. Uhm, they win the football games and there's nothing you can do to take away that. But, uh, yeaah, I mean they won that by the skin of their teeth yesterday and we're fortunate. And I was a little, you know, one of the things is,


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[Assistant] I kinda got mad at the Jets cause I didn't think they ran the ball, you know, enough on the first time when they were stopped.


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[Assistant] You know, the play before that, they threw it on a third and one, he threw it to Garrett Wilson. You know, the play before that, they did run it up the middle, which I had forgotten about. And I want to say sorry too, because I think I said on the highlight show, I was like, I was mad they didn't run the ball.


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[Assistant] To me, the biggest thing was, I just wanted to see a James Robinson or somebody like that who's bigger, more powerful, quarterback, be underneath the center, run downhill type of run.


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[Assistant] And that's where I was a little critical, but hey, the Jets are still a really good football team. They definitely are. Uh, that's a tough one there. And I think the silver lining would be is just go, you know, hey, the Vikings are 10-2.


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[Assistant] I think if you took away records and people just went for the look test, they'd probably look at you guys and go, wait, I think that's the ten and two team and that's the seven and five team. You know, there's, so they're a young team. They're learning how to win. Uh, they made some mistakes yesterday. Mike white did miss some throws. Um, but still he played well, but that's not the way the jets want to play there.


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[Assistant] It was a little sloppy yesterday. The fact that they couldn't run the ball at all, you know, and then the defense. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Some penalties like we talked about, a few inopportune big plays, uh, something we haven't seen for a while.


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[Assistant] Well, I said, had Mike White. Mike White, yeaah. It was cool. Mike F'n White. You know, they, they obviously have some sort of camaraderie there. You know, they were, you know, they were very into that. They were wearing the Milfinator, Zach Wilson shirts early on, before the season started too. That's true, that's true. So it's like, you know, I, I, I don't know, I don't know if I want to read into it or not. Trust me, I mean, I do. And I, I get that.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know. And then the next day they're wearing Mighty Duck stuff to the, uh, game. What was the reason for that? I don't know, cause they're in Minnesota, I guess? I don't know. They're very into their fashion in the New York Jets, apparently.


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[Assistant] I'd be shocked. I guess I'm disrespecting them more. Right. But uhm, but yes, I, I, I'm just trying to be real about my assessment. Yeah. And there's a lot of good. There is. But I, I guess there's, I don't see great. And, and that's, that's my issue. Not yet. Not yet. Maybe it, maybe that changes.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah, yeaah. You see, sometimes you gotta, you gotta, I'm gonna give you this whoopin' today. I still love ya. You gotta take it like a man today. This is, this is, this is professional NFL football here. Uhm. That was a whoopin'. It was personal for him. You could, you could tell.


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[Assistant] You know, one of the biggest issues with their football team was we saw yesterday, they couldn't run the ball, Traylon Bergs got hurt, and all of a sudden you go, well, they got nothing. They got nothing to throw to. You know, Robert Woods is not the same person anymore. I don't think he's totally gotten healthy back from his knee surgery and ACL tear last year.


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[Assistant] He's special, and what's different with yesterday, first off, this is what we always talk about.


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[Assistant] You know, the bind the Eagles put you in. It's, there's not a weakness on their football team. And


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[Assistant] There, the Titans played, they played defenses, at least it looked like in my opinion, just stopped the run. They weren't going to let the run or Jalen Hurts in that run game take off on them.


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[Assistant] So, then, as you heard me say, I think they're one of the best zone coverage teams in football. They're good in man, but those corners are not like lockdown. And then Christian Folden, their best corner got hurt during the game.


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[Assistant] So now they're playing man to man with guys where one's a rookie and McCreary who I like. And then, uh, you know, um, damn, I'm blanking on 30. Avery.


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[Assistant] His, his, he's playing, and then they're just, they're not ready for that. They're not ready to be on an island with no help at all against AJ Brown and Devontae Smith. And the Eagles, they're just, they're amazing. They're just like, oh, you're in man to man. You go straight. You go straight. I'll throw it. We'll catch it. Touchdown Eagles. And.


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[Assistant] Oh, I know. I can't believe he still caught it. It's amazing. He is. And then, you know, Devontae Smith of the day, he had to go on top of it. And again, you got to remember, I mean, Dallas Goddard, he's hurt right now. But, you know, that was the first time all year where I felt like Philadelphia just said, okay, you want to do this? Screw you. We're going to throw it every play then. And we're just, we don't care. And again, he's a very good deep ball thrower.


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[Assistant] I don't think you could play man to man that much against them though. You know, I, Toach, Dungey, I, and Garrett have had this conversation a lot. And that, and that yesterday to me is that's the reason. You gotta find ways to play some creative zones a little bit to...


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[Assistant] You know, not let them just throw one on one jump balls. That's the biggest thing. Because there's not many teams that have the corners in football that are ever going to be able to stop those two. Uhm, but the Eagles, between that and then


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[Assistant] The defense and the run defense, which we've all questioned. I mean, there was nowhere for Derrick Henry to run. Uhm, yeaah, that was an impressive dominant victory against the Tennessee Tigers.


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[Assistant] No, no, I think that's where Tennessee maybe is slightly different than the last few years when we've seen them be the number one seed or when we saw them go to the AFC Championship game. I don't think this O-line, and we hit on this a little bit earlier in the year, I don't think it's as dominant as it's been. It's still good.


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[Assistant] I don't think like, hey, the year they went to the AFC Championship game or early on last year, you went, oh, there's nine guys in the box.


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[Assistant] You know, I defend the defensive players almost always, because it's impossible to play defense anymore. You can't tackle the quarterback, you can't cover the receivers. How about this? I mean, I'll stay on task here, and then I'll go to it. AJ Brown.


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[Assistant] No, sorry. The Marcus Epps diving. I mean, he launched a trail on Burke's head, right?


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[Assistant] Penalty. Good job by the refs. My issue was this. I watched the game on Thursday night, the Patriots. I watched Mac Jones throw the ball over the middle to Jacoby Myers. I watched Jacoby Myers lower his head. I watched Damar Hamlin turn his body to the side and not try to hit the guy.


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[Assistant] They hit each other and they kicked Demar Hamlin out of the game. This was as egregious as it gets. It'll be in a reel of what not to do next year in training camp for all teams to watch.


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[Assistant] Just a flag. And that's, it's just the inconsistencies. And the thing is that jumps out to me, and Pete and I were talking about this yesterday, is it just seems like in stand-alone games, they kick you out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that bothers me. There's inconsistencies there. Let alone, listen, all the roughing the passers and all that. But, you know, I just don't like that aspect of the inconsistency. And yeah, I thought Marcus Epps, by the letter of the law on this one, should have been thrown out. And that's where it just bothered me a little.


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[Assistant] I think it's where it's gotta be taken off is I do think he led with his head. He hit him with the crown of his helmet right in his face, right? So that to me was like the most egregious thing.


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[Assistant] And that to me is where, yea, you can fix that. And to Marcus Epps, I want to be like, dude, that's how you get hurt. Like, don't do that. Right? It's a win-win for all when you don't do that. And, and that is a...


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[Assistant] Fixable thing. Like you said, you can turn your body and still make that hit and lead with the shoulder and do that. I thought that was a clear launch of the head first. Or you have to get there quicker.


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[Assistant] Well, we, we've lost, we've lost, yeaah, yes. Agreed. And I don't even know if they're gonna let you off the hook on that one. Because that goes back to the Patriots Billsman with DeMar Hamlin. And this is my biggest, we have a fundamental flaw in football right now. And it really bothers me, as a guy that's a traditionalist, and I love football, and I love the game, where... Okay, let's go back to that Bills Patriots game. Here we are. Not great spacing by the Patriots receivers.


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[Assistant] The bills are coached and perfectly in the right places, doing the right thing.


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[Assistant] The guy literally turns his body to try to hit him with his shoulder. Yeaah, he gets the battle knee, he gets kicked out.


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[Assistant] Right? If he doesn't hit the guy or do nothing, he just lays up. He becomes a social media meme. And like, what a wimp that guy is. He doesn't, he just lets people catch the ball over the other one. We can't be a good supervisor. He gets, he gets right. Like it'll become Tyron Matthew, who's become that a few times this year. So you, you become that.


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[Assistant] We're ruining the bat. I guess it's just, I can't spit it out. I get it. I get it. And that bothers me. And then there's Sean McDermott, Leslie Frazier, who coached the play perfectly, taught their guy to hit the guy perfectly, real.


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[Assistant] And the other guy lowered his head and you kicked him out and you gave them first and goal? What? There's something wrong with that NFL. It's annoying. Let alone still the rubbing the passer cause. Let alone back to our Philadelphia Tennessee game here. AJ Brown.


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[Assistant] He catches the out and up for a touchdown, right? I wish we could show this right now. We're going to talk about this on Wednesday and we're going to make a social video.


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[Assistant] He double moves, right? The guy goes on the out route with him. He turns up and runs over the DB. And this is the problem right now. This is what the NFL has done.


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[Assistant] I mean, literally the announcers in the game were like, I don't know, was that boy? What? And then they came around. The defender has the right to be where he is. He's not supposed to go like, Ole!


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[Assistant] But we have gotten so numb with any contact we just go defense. The defense has the right to be on the field. He took a charge.


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[Assistant] He literally, he has the right to be at this spot. It's the name of football. It's the controlling of the spot. I mean, that's what it is. And yeah, so that's, that just bothers me. I didn't mean to go on that tangent, but I know we do have to show some of these plays on social media.


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[Assistant] We're getting down to the end. The whole two point conversion and all that stuff is really, yea, you're right, it's gonna, Scoragami, it's gonna be gone in about two years. It's almost over.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, you know, I think the big thing to me is just the...


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[Assistant] Again, I think it shows you how special the Cowboys are and how many playmakers they have just across the, you know, across the spectrum on all three phases. That's where I find the Cowboys incredible.


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[Assistant] You know, the offense can make plays. They can also kind of grind it out and run the ball. The defense is just constant pressure. People at the line of scrimmage, blitzes, dropping out, all of that. It's just controlled chaos. Even though their special teams wasn't anything last night, they put most weeks with Turban back at the kick returner or it's


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[Assistant] And John Fossil, the special teams coach is always looking for a trick play. They put tremendous pressure on you that way. And that to me was just kind of the, the story is that just, you know, the, the Colts wilted away in it a little bit there in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Where, yeaah, the game has to go a certain way. They gotta run the ball or defense has gotta keep us in it. Matt Ryan's gotta be able to get the ball out of his hands quickly and all that.


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[Assistant] And, you know, the cults who did some good things, but it, you know, felt like...


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[Assistant] They were hanging on by a thread at times on the offensive side of the ball where you're going, oh man, they almost got Matt Ryan or oh gosh, that ball was in the air forever. That was almost an interception. It's just the damn broke. I mean, that, that's what, and they just shows you where their defense and Pollard and all of a sudden they rip off a few plays and you're like, holy shit.


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[Assistant] We were in this game like 7 minutes ago, and all of a sudden 9 plays later on offense, we're losing by 30? Like what the hell happened? Uh, I just think that speaks to the elite level of talent Dallas has. And that's where they're scary, and they're elite.


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[Assistant] They're definitely one of the best teams in football. It's not easy to win by 37 in Minnesota or by.


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[Assistant] That's the NFL. You just, you don't see that happen unless you're kind of an elite football team, and that's what they are.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I think where it's big is the fact that like,


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[Assistant] They've already lost Jordan Lewis, who's a really good nickel cover corner. And now you lose Anthony Brown, who's a really damn good corner too. He gets overshadowed a little bit by Trayvon Diggs and some of the other stars in that defense, but damn he's good.


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[Assistant] And as we've talked about before, they're a team that, you know, they play on the edge a little bit. They're not afraid to go, oh shit, we're going to blitz six here and we're going to play man to man and we're going to put pressure on you. We're going to make you, you know, have to make a throw into tight coverage in the pocket with a lot of people around you.


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[Assistant] That chops a leg off a little bit. But Kelvin Joseph to me is a guy, I loved him coming out of Kentucky. I think he'll be ready to go here.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be shocked if he kind of, and this is no disrespect to Anthony Brown, if now he gets his opportunity at some off the field issues early in the year to where


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[Assistant] He settles in and maybe they don't miss it, and then we'll see about Wright. I don't know a ton about Wright, I need to evaluate him a little bit more, but he looked good last night, from what I saw.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and they seemed to have an eye for that position there in Dallas, so it wouldn't shock me, you know, if they, if they, uh, if they kinda surprised us. And then 26 Bland, he was the other guy that jumped out.


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[Assistant] And Bland, uh, is, uh, he's a rookie. I'm forgetting the school. I want to say he went to Fresno. Uh, I'm gonna find it before anybody here. Uhm, yeaah, he went to Fresno State. I remember watching him coming out in the draft too. He was a good player. He got good size, can kind of do it all. So...


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[Assistant] Again, it stinks, but I don't think it's, it's not a deal breaker. I don't look at it and go, oh wow, at least they got a little depth and talent at the position. And you got a good pass rush, which makes life a little easier.


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[Assistant] What do you mean? I think he's still in the inside track to be the head coach next year. Just by the feel of it. Yeah. I mean, I think he's going to be able to sit there and go, wait, it was 21-19. It was the third quarter, you know.


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[Assistant] I don't. I think if they continue to kind of just be competitive and play the right way and are tough, I think that this is, I think, or say wants this to work.


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[Assistant] And I think, you know, again, there were still a lot of positives about last night.


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[Assistant] There was. I know it's totally disaster in the fourth quarter there, but...


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[Assistant] They weren't, that defense is still damn good. And they hung in there for a long time and helped out. And you know, unfortunately it's just, Matt Ryan can make no more high level throws. It's a little bit like, what were the big plays last night? Just throw it up, right, to Alec Pierce? Pretty much, right? Your guy Alec Pierce.


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[Assistant] I'm always angry too. I don't like ties. It's like kissing your sister, your brother, whatever, right? The old saying there, right? Yeah. You know, or your cousin, whatever. One of those family members. All right. Sure. Oh, my family's from Kentucky. We kiss cousins down there. Yeah. Uh, but either way, um, I'm with you there, but


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[Assistant] We have seen these ties come in very handy. It's definitely better than losing the football game.


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[Assistant] Now we're going to lose a tiebreaker, you know, to those teams because they tied. So again, it's still better than a loss. And I think they kept that in the back of their minds. You know, just that, that little, you know, that little fact of this tie. We've seen a lot of teams get in the playoffs because of that tie over the last decade.


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[Assistant] It was a weird game. It was like, Washington controlled it early.


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[Assistant] You know, Giants made a few mistakes, right? Giants had the turnover early on. Uhm, yeah. And, but then like, Giants kinda got back control of the football game.


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[Assistant] Heinecke was making some mistakes. He did not throw the ball great. Missed some definite, some open receivers throughout the day. You know, that was, that was one of those where we kind of came away and, you know, Pete and I, we're, we're, you know, always keeping a pretty close eye on the Giants game and Morgan too. And we were a little bit like, oh yes, Heinecke missed him. Yes. I mean, there was definitely some moments of that.


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[Assistant] But yes, they just hang around, but it felt like the Giants had control of the game. You know, they get the stripped sack.


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[Assistant] The Giants go down, they get the strip sack on Heinecke. They get the TD pass from Daniel Jones. They're up 20-13. Right? It's looking good. Here the Giants make another stop. They get the ball back. They get a first down.


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[Assistant] They're in fringe field goal, they're in field goal territory. And John Feliciano decides to flex on people.


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[Assistant] Taylor Tyneke time. Yeah. And he made the plays. It's unreal.


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[Assistant] Well, I'll say this. It actually encouraged me with the Giants a little bit. I did not think


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[Assistant] We could hang in there, like, I thought Washington as the game went on would kinda show that they're a better football team than we are. Uh, but, uh, I mean, again, Darius Leighton's dangerous. Daniel Jones at one point was like 19 for 20. I mean, he's playing really good.


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[Assistant] And then the running game again that he brings to the table is special. Uhm, there was some encouraging things for the Giants there. Maybe they won't, you know, wilt away here down the stretch like I thought. We'll see where it goes, but yeaah, I will say I think the tie comes in handy for these guys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Washington has a bye week and then plays the Giants again. That's kind of crazy, right?


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[Assistant] Definitely. Cause it's, it's, it's gone beyond just like the ordinary. It's like plays like you see the win the football game happening every week where it's like, Oh, but damn, he escapes the pocket.


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[Assistant] You know, he threw a, he threw a number of throws yesterday where he was like, he had pressure, he's off his back foot, he's gonna throw a...


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[Assistant] And again, I think, I hope this is first off, at lead pop. I love that, you know, I love people like that. I don't like the Seahawks, but I'm gonna give respect to somebody that deserves it.


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[Assistant] That's the, that's what we like here at the Chris Simms Unbuttoned podcast. You know, don't be a hater. Let's just call it the way it is. You know, and that's where, you know, we gotta be careful about vilifying some of these guys. Cause you see here, it's just the perception in the public.


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[Assistant] Uh, view of Gina was totally off. Except for Tua. We're okay vilifying Tua.


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[Assistant] Yes, I've been shocked, I think, a little bit more by that stuff, Amund. That it's just like, whoa, he spins out of the pocket or steps up in the pocket, escapes, and throws a laser down the middle in a clutch moment and boom, hits DK Metcalf.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's not like it's like, Oh, you know, Gino had a great day here today. He threw for 350 and he threw, you know, 12 screens and a bunch of like slant routes. It's like when they drop back to pass, they are looking to strike.


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[Assistant] So yes, and he's a really young 33, right? He's 33 or something like that.


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[Assistant] He's going to be a starting quarterback for somebody next year. Maybe Seattle still. I mean, somebody. It doesn't matter. Yea, they can't. How would they let him get away? I guess they can't let him get away now. Right. Exactly right. I don't even know why I said that. But that was impressive. And I want to say this too on top of this.


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[Assistant] Tariq Wolin has a chance to be one of those guys that's top corner in football. There's no question. He does. He's just, to be that long and that fast and as we've talked about, the change of direction skills to be that long are kind of scary good.


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[Assistant] I do want to give the Rams some credit here. I want to give Sean McVay credit. You know, you kind of said it. They ain't got jack shit on offense right now. They got nothing. He like...


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[Assistant] He, they did that yesterday and stayed close in that game just out of toughness and his coaching. You know, look at the rushing. It was just at acres, you know, he had an okay day, right?


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[Assistant] The Powell, the Wolford, the Atwell.


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[Assistant] Right? He infused a few little things in the run game to just give them a little bit something else on their offense. And that was just enough to kind of keep them competitive in the football game altogether. Uh, so I do want to give Sean McVeigh some credit for that. But damn, the Seahawks, yes.


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[Assistant] Kenneth Walker got hurt. I don't think this game is as close if he doesn't get hurt. I would have been, I would have thought Seattle could have ran on the Rams yesterday for some big plays. But Gino, Lockett, Metcalf, they carried the day. The stars of the


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[Assistant] You know, really the stars of the Seattle carry the day. Those three, Tariq Wolin,


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[Assistant] And I mean, those are the guys that have kind of made plays all year for their football team and they showed up in a big NFC West show down there.


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[Assistant] It looked like it was his foot. He had his foot up on the sideline, on the bench, ice-like, on the arch of it there or something. So, yeaah, I hope it's nothing, uh, you know, nothing horrible. That's for sure.


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[Assistant] Christian Watson? I think so! You know, we gotta take it away from the old guy.


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[Assistant] He had some injuries in training camp, right? So he wasn't around to get that. And then yes, to your point, you're exactly right. Then Rogers was like, wait, I didn't get to work with you in training camp and you're not in the trust tree. So he didn't throw him the ball much early on in the year.


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[Assistant] It's the same thing we talk about. It's how does DK Metcalf last the second round? How does Deebo Samuel? Because they played on teams where it wasn't great production. So like for some reason teams have to


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[Assistant] They have to see you catch the ball for 1400 yards instead of just going, wait, he's open all the time and this team's not that good to give them the ball all the time.


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[Assistant] I don't know either, but he's freak show. And yes, he is going to be.


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[Assistant] In the conversation from one of the best receivers in football. He's, they just don't make humans like him very often.


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[Assistant] You know, he's built like almost like a DK Metcalf or a Chase Claypool, you know, or a Brandon Marshall, but he's faster than those guys.


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[Assistant] So yeah, we're, we're seeing it and I did take a lot of heat for that one there. You know, he's from North Dakota state. They're a running football team and one AA.


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[Assistant] How fast can he be? You know, I'm not sure about the guys covering him. I get that. I want to go, man, North Dakota State's got NFL players all over their team. They got more guys in the NFL than Texas does right now. So, uh, that, that's, you know, that's, we gotta get, get rid of that. But yeah, he was, he was great. And man, this game.


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[Assistant] It was kind of a sneaky fun game to watch. I agree with that. Right? Yea. You know, it was, Justin Fields made so many big awesome plays. And you felt like they were kind of controlling the football game. And, you know, we had the


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[Assistant] Chase Claypool fumble, I know that messed up one drive, right? And, and that might have been the drive that got them to field goal to make it 10-3 or maybe, maybe he fumbled and they were 10-0 and they were driving.


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[Assistant] Really felt like, oh wow, you know, Green Bay can't get anything going on the offensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] The way he was throwing the ball and making plays. I mean, when we got close to halftime, I was sitting there going, man, the Packers are in trouble. They're going to lay an egg here in Chicago. They make the big drive before the half. He throws the ball up to Watson who gets the touchdown and that kind of changed the game a little bit and got them rolling in the second half. They played some good offensive football.


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[Assistant] Second time in two weeks, in ten days he's kinda said the same thing. He said something on like Monday at his locker last week where he's like, well you're assuming everything will be the same in this locker room next year.


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[Assistant] You know, stop the, you know, enigma or the riddle of like, oh, what's going to happen? Let's, let's talk about something other than the football team. I just, I get tired of that. I do. Um, but yeah, I hear you. I don't know. He's giving out mixed signals. I don't know if he wants to maybe retire or maybe he's trying to set it up to get out of Green Bay. There's a part of me that thinks that too.


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[Assistant] You know, there is a little rumor in NFL circles that people think like Aaron Rodgers and Odell Beckham Jr. might try to team up somewhere.


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[Assistant] You know, I know. What, next year? Yeaah. And I just go, I don't know, I gotta see that to believe it. I gotta see Rodgers pull the trigger and actually want to get out of Green Bay. I think he's very comfy there because he's the king. Uhm, but yeaah, that was one there where the Bears could have stole it yesterday. They definitely could have. You know, they were controlling the game, right? They drive down and field goal got blocked. 40 yard field goal.


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[Assistant] By Kyro Santos, I think, I think big, you know, uh, white de-tackle Lowry got his hand up and blocked it. Yeah. And then...


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[Assistant] Packers went on a long field goal drive to go up by a point.


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[Assistant] And then that bec- then the next, uh, then it was the Justin Fields interception.


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[Assistant] And, uh, that, that again led to the Watson reverse touchdown and all that. But, um, yeah, good one for Green Bay. Doesn't put them out of it, but I,


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[Assistant] Watson, to me, just the stars of the show were Watson and Justin Fields. Justin Fields is amazing. Justin Fields is fun to watch. He's fun to watch. He made some throws yesterday in the game too where I just went, holy shit, like what a throw. And the running is, he's in the class of


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[Assistant] Anybody in football with the ball in his hand, right? I mean, I put him anybody. I don't care who it is.


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[Assistant] Maybe he was just quarterback. Yeaah, maybe. He might have been. He said Justin Fields. I mean, I don't, you, Watson, Christian Watson, Justin Fields, I don't care. Give the ball to Justin Fields in a reverse. He might have hit 21 miles per hour too. Yeaah. He's that special with the ball in his hands. Yeaah. I really like what I see from Justin Fields as of late. I really do.


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[Assistant] Definitely. The Raiders are, unfortunately yeaah, they're not gonna get in because they blew some games early in the year. Right? But I hope everybody's seeing...


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[Assistant] Josh McDaniels and the Genius in a little bit, what we're seeing here. First off, they have come together. You know, beat the Seahawks, beat the Chargers.


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[Assistant] The only team we've seen that moved the ball in the Broncos like we talked about. Yeaah, it's gonna come back to bite them in the ass in games like the Colts, the Jaguars, you know, the Tennessee Titans, the Cardinals, they're all games where they controlled the game for the better part of the game and lost. And that's gonna be the difference of why they don't make the playoffs. But I hope everybody sees


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[Assistant] Man, I'm just saying, watch out for the Raiders. You're seeing the genius of McDaniels here. And the offense. And damn, what would it look like if they had Hunter Renfro and Darren Waller to actually play? Ever.


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[Assistant] I mean, they haven't had Darren Waller all year. And this is why a few weeks ago, I mean, you know, I was, hey, you got to, you're going to do the New England way and go in on this. You got to let it go a little bit. This is, it's a deep process to get it rolling and they got it rolling right now. And the offense has really got it rolling. And between the run game of Josh Jacobs and then him


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[Assistant] I mean, they almost seem unstoppable once they kind of get going in a football game. Once they kind of figure out, oh wait, this is what you're doing to us. It's like, then McDaniels is like, all right, unlock this part of the playbook. Here we go.


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[Assistant] Okay, I got it when you're dead. And, uh, they just, they're so balanced and make so many big plays in the run game and the


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[Assistant] I don't think it's great. Listen, the Jets have some tough games down the stretch. If the Jets fall apart,


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[Assistant] And the Chargers who, I'm gonna look it up as we sit here real quick, and let's just, here's the Raiders first off. Raiders have the Rams this week, we know they can beat them. But then they got Patriots, Steelers, 49ers, Chiefs. So that's a tough stretch down the end. They'll have to earn it. They will have to earn it, there's no doubt about it. Now, let's look at the Los Angeles Chargers.


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[Assistant] Alright, so here's the, and if you're watching on YouTube, you see the, the playoff standings right now. The chargers...


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[Assistant] Have dolphins, titans, colts, rams, broncos. So they got a lot of work here too. They do.


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[Assistant] Now, you know, both teams are gonna need the Jets and the Patriots to fall apart a little bit here in the second half.


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[Assistant] And the Jets play Buffalo this week. The Jets got some tough games left on the schedule here. And New England has some tough games on the schedule too. You know, they got the Bengals, the Dolphins, and the Bills still on the schedule. And they gotta play the Cardinals and the Raiders, so.


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[Assistant] The Raiders have more of a chance than I thought. I agree. You're on it, Omin. They're not dead yet here. Defense stepping up, Chandler Jones had a big game. Oh, it's the first time all year. I think that was, right? That was huge. You know, I just couldn't get over that.


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[Assistant] So, there's a lot of things to talk about, because I thought this game was interesting too. Raiders didn't come out playing well, down 10-0, Carr threw a pick 6, right? Josh Jacobs fumbled back up at one point. Instead of just taking the lead 3-0 Chargers, you know what they did, they went for it on 4th and 1 and didn't get it, okay?


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[Assistant] And then, you know, the defense calls the turnover on Eckler with a fumble and then just the big plays to Adams and then the running with Jacobs. It's going to be tough to defend and defensively, even though they're not super talented, they're not.


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[Assistant] If they can rush the passer that way, Patrick Graham and company will have the right plan on the defensive side of the ball. Like I said, it might not be dominant on men, but it'll give them a fighting chance and let their offense stay in a football game. And you know, I'm glad we had this conversation. I think you're right. I think we need to kind of watch out for the raiders. Here we go again.


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[Assistant] I mean, we saw it at the end of last year. You see it again here today. I mean, yesterday.


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[Assistant] We've lost our way. Oh, by the way. Right. So no big deal. I mean, no big deal. He was their leading rusher. 10 carries for 41 yards. It's amazing. The Ravens, the run game, you know, I know Morgan Moses is a little beat up, right tackle. Ronnie Stanley beat up. I don't know if there's another injury in the middle. I think there might be. They did have an alignment hurt yesterday.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, they've lost their ability to kinda control the line of scrimmage in the run game, and Omnit goes right back to what we've talked about a lot. It's just not the kinda pass game that you go, well they'll carry it all the time.


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[Assistant] You know, they got the basics, but there's lack of scary weapons and then it's not a passing offense that's made to stand alone. That's not what Greg Roman's all about there. But man, yeah, did he make a lot of just


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[Assistant] You know, good decisions. They weren't going to let up the big play. A lot of nice four and five yard completions kept them in good positions. It wasn't pretty.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's big time. That speaks to, to John Harbaugh and it speaks to Tyler Huntley, you know, like we talked about with Brock Purdy, being ready to go and, uh, you know, not the game up as a backup quarterback for your football team and keeping them in control.


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[Assistant] Honestly, in a lot of ways, I think they're, and I don't think it's fair to blame Nathaniel Hackett.


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[Assistant] In a lot of ways. I mean, I understand you're, you're right. And you're saying the perception again is there and it doesn't look good to the eye and there's not a lot of good vibes around it. And you know, just, it doesn't seem like the Denver fan base has latched on in any ways. It seems like there is a ground swell.


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[Assistant] Per Nathaniel Hackett's head there. I don't love it. And where it's tough is...


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[Assistant] They've actually had a regress offensively because of their quarterback. That's the thing. If you watch what they were doing in week three or four, you'd go, they were running more plays and had more offense in than they do now because they've had to dumb it down or simplify it even more to make the quarterback feel comfortable.


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[Assistant] So that's where it stinks. He can't even like, expand and shut. Hey look, I can draw this play up. I can do this and do that. He's kind of handcuffed right now because of the quarterback.


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[Assistant] So that's where it stinks and I feel for him. I hope they don't fire him. I really don't. I do think he's a guy that...


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[Assistant] You know, has a good offense in mind, he's gonna lead them in the right way, but, yeaah, the optics were kicked off in the wrong direction by 46 left hash, right, against the Seahawks to start the year.


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[Assistant] And then, there has been a few other mistakes here and there, and that's just led to, yeaah, a bad vibe around him and the Green, uh, Denver Broncos.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't do it, but I hear you Ahmed, and I think I would not be shocked if he was one of the first guys to go after the season.


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[Assistant] Him getting back in the corner and like, hey, you gotta pull the trigger and throw the ball here. You know, this isn't McVeigh and you just got an easy screen and all that. It's like it's brought out a new player in him over the last year and a half. That's what I see.


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[Assistant] I see a guy that used to like, I used to see a 20 yard crossing route and go, well if he throws it, he's not going to throw it on target. Or he won't even throw it because it's a little too tight coverage.


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[Assistant] To where he'll look for something else. Now he's just like, oh, he's opened by three inches. Throw it. It's just, you know, he's, he's got guts. He's aggressive and they're not afraid to lean on him.


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[Assistant] I mean, again, it was a phenomenal football game. They had their way with the Jags in the past game. They did whatever they wanted.


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[Assistant] Almost all game long. It's the thing I kept writing in my notes as I was watching the game. I just go, they're throwing at will. They're throwing at will. You know?


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[Assistant] Jaguars come off a big win. They showed they're immature and they still can't handle that. ATN fumbles to start the game, you know.


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[Assistant] It's 7-0 you guys after the first good drive there and the fumble by ATN. They drive down, Zay Jones is going to catch a shallow crossing route on third down, he's going to score a touchdown, he drops it, they kick a field goal. You guys go right down and score again.


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[Assistant] You know, I almost don't want to praise him too much because I want to make sure he's there for Dan Campbell to be the offensive coordinator for you and Dan next year. Agreed. Right? Uh, but he's, I think a guy that people are going to... They're doing this in spite of Ben Johnson. There you go. I helped you. There's teams that are going to look at Detroit and Ben Johnson and go, wait,


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[Assistant] This guy can, you know, draw up a game plan here and call plays the right way.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah. And then, added to that, almond, the defense has gotten better the last few weeks.


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[Assistant] Made some changes on that side of the ball. They've definitely been better. Not that it's a, it's like the best events in football or anything like that, but


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[Assistant] I mean, man, gave Josh Allen and everybody, and the Bills all they can handle in the second half. I mean, really, if Josh Allen's just done an incredible talent, you guys win the game.


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[Assistant] Again, I'm not a hater on Jared Goff. Back in the day, I was just trying to call it like it is and tell you about it. He is kicking some butt right now, and I do think you're right. He's gonna make them think about, do you really want to put one of those top ten ticks in the quarterback? Or do you want to just bolster this team and have a f***ing squad here in Detroit? And that'll be an interesting discussion.


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[Assistant] Offensive line's good. Now let's use those picks on defense. I think the big thing too will just be, does Dan Campbell and does Jared Goff fit their mantra, right? That'd be probably the last piece of the puzzle. It seems like he does.


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[Assistant] You know, kind of selfless QB who's, you know, tough and gritty. And golf is that for sure.


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[Assistant] He's making them think CryptoMug358. He definitely is going to make them think. I think it is going to, you know, I mean, I know we're going to evaluate as we go on here, but if he can just finish the season playing solid football, it doesn't have to be great.


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[Assistant] It just, you know, offensively they have a nice little, it's nothing pretty or flashy, but it's short passing game and running the ball. And they've gotten better at that. And then Pickett scrambles and makes a few plays, and it's just kind of ugly drives. It's kind of how they make it work.


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[Assistant] And I know you had the one big play to Fryermuth and along the sideline and he broke up the sideline with a big play. But that's kind of what they are. And then, you know, defensively...


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[Assistant] They're just, they bring it. That's what I look at. And they got into a game here where they knew, wait, there's only one thing we really gotta worry about, and we just can't let them run the ball on us.


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[Assistant] And really we're very good at stopping the run until it's the fourth quarter. It seemed like the dam broke a little bit and then all of a sudden Cordaro and Algier and all them started breaking some runs. A little bit, not a ton. Yeah, not a ton, but just enough to where that's where they kind of made or mounted their comeback. It was 19-6 Steelers and


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[Assistant] It did feel like, yeaah, just, like I just wrote 84 Patterson, lots of good runs, sets up TD 1913, you know, uhm.


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[Assistant] And then kind of the same thing, you know, they're not a team that can rely on the passing game, but when you're a little bit too one dimensional against Pittsburgh, that's a disaster. Cause they're, they're feast or famine. They don't care. They go all in on it too. Oh wait, we smell blood in this area. We're not just going to be conservative about it. We're going to bring the whole sharks, the shark pod and everybody. And we're going to, we're going to eat.


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[Assistant] And I don't know why I said that, but I did. Um, but yeaah, Pittsburgh's toughness, their grit, they're growing their quarterback.


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[Assistant] Uh, there's a lot of pauses there, and I just can't say enough about them. And then, you know, when he's always used those words, culture, it's like what you're talking about. He's got a culture of like,


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[Assistant] We fight. Even when we get knocked down, we get up and fight again. We don't give a shit. There's no excuses here. And that's Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steeler Football.


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[Assistant] I know. I don't know if they'll do that. Cause they're not out of it. They're five and eight. Yeah, they're not out of it. I mean, you know, Tampa loses tonight.


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[Assistant] And you go, oh shit, we're still only a game out and we get to play them again and we'll see. But what's Marcus giving you that Desmond couldn't give you either? Well, you know, one, it's just hard to throw the guy into that situation. Like, hey, here we're at the end of the season, we're still in the playoff mix and...


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[Assistant] Tell me that's how you can start off the bad perception around your young quarterback leading the next year. Oh, Desert Miz is our starter. And the Atlanta fan base is like, wait, you mean the guy that looked like shit at the end of the year last year?


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[Assistant] Right? So that, that's a tough situation to throw a rookie into. You know, plus, like we talked about, I think Desmond Ritter,


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[Assistant] He's got some things to work on still. I think it kinda showed itself in the preseason. He did some good things, I know that, but there's still some work there. But either way...


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[Assistant] You know, I think we are definitely firmly in to your point. He's not the future Marcus Mario. He's just not a good enough thrower of the ball, let alone he's not a good enough decision maker. So that's where it hurts. And why did you have a problem with them punting the ball there?


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[Assistant] Why did you have a problem with that? You can't go for it there, Ahmed. 4th and 11? 40 yard line? Oh, was it 4th and 11? Yeah, you thought it was shorter?


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[Assistant] Oh, it was 4th and 6th first. That's right. 4th and 6th. That's right. Yeah, I, I still think it's, I would have done that.


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[Assistant] I would have done that. You just answered your own question.


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[Assistant] Wait, we're going to give the ball to Marcus Mariota? Backed up? Can he really drive down and beat us here? Right? And you're Pittsburgh and Mike Tomlin and defensive coach and I got TJ Watt and Cam Hayward and Minka Fitzpatrick, right?


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[Assistant] So that's why he does it. I'm not trying to be a jerk to you. You know what I mean? He's going, I don't want to miss, I was being a jerk, I don't want to miss a field goal, I don't want us to not get


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[Assistant] You know, now we give them the ball at the 42 yard line, and Mariota throws one ball to Drake London, jump ball, and all of a sudden it's field goal territory, right?


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[Assistant] So that's all I have to say in there. I know you're wearing your Reds and Falcons and all that.


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[Assistant] It is. It's amazing that they're in it. It was ugly. I mean, what did you expect, first off? Deshaun Watson, I mean, it's been two years. It's impossible to come back and play well. It is. But the DMVN stepped up. That's the big thing.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, Denzel, you know, sports a fumble on Damian Pearson, they're backed up. Denzel Ward just picks it up, runs for a touchdown. The punt return by people's Jones. I mean, it was kind of the damnedest thing you've ever seen, really.


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[Assistant] But, but it felt like it was one of those days and, and, and I thought the Texans would keep it close because again, they were hearing it all week and the energy in the city and Watson's coming back and all of that. I'm sure they felt the importance even through their own owner as what they wanted to do there. Um, but man.


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[Assistant] I mean, gosh, fumble return, pick six, punt return. That's amazing. It really is. It wasn't a very pretty game by the Browns. They ran the ball well, they did, but it wasn't as dominant as I would have thought.


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[Assistant] But, you know, Cleveland, I mean, uh, Texans I think felt like, Hey, we can, we can play run defense and we don't think Deshaun Watson is going to be greased up and ready to go quite yet. And he certainly wasn't. You still see the physical ability. That's for sure.


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[Assistant] To me, it does, his arm pops to me when he lets go of the ball. He looks a little thick right now, but his movement's still damn good. Uh, it won't take him long to kinda get back into football shape. This is a huge result.


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[Assistant] I don't feel comfortable about this game though. I don't.


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[Assistant] Why would you feel comfortable about Tampa Bay? They've been all over the map. Brady's not playing that well. Their run game's not very good.


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[Assistant] You know, their defense has been all over the place, so I'm a little torn there. And then they're playing another team that's kind of like that too, where I go, hey, the offense was awesome this week and the next week it sucked and now it's back to awesome. It's hard to figure out these two teams, let alone we know that the Saints, hey, they know how to defend this team.


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[Assistant] I do, and Pete, I don't know if you can look up why we're just sitting here and getting our ear at some point, but like, Marsha and Latimore, his health tonight?


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[Assistant] You know, I'm going to be interested. I think there's a chance he does play. I think he's playing tonight. You know, if he does, it's going to make life hard. The Buccaneers receivers, like we talked about earlier in the year, Mike Evans has definitely lost a step. Godwin, I don't think has ever gotten back totally to his 100% himself yet. He's still really good.


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[Assistant] You know, and then, yeaah, without a lack of a run game, and then now your quarterback's 45 years old, that's where, you know, the Bucks are, are not consistently good. And, you know, one of the, the Bucks, eh, they want to rely on their defense being physically dominant and all that too. You can't, you know, they're not going to be physically dominant against the Saints. The Saints offensive line's too good.


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[Assistant] You know, and we'll see what the Saints got in store. Like we said, they have, they've shown moments here of...


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[Assistant] Taysom Hill, Andy Dalton stretching the field a little bit. The Taysom Hill run game, Alvin Kamara, all that. Of being a pain in the ass. Uh, I'm kind of excited for a tough, close physical game here. Marshawn Lattimore, Pete says, game time decision. Game time decision. Mmm. They need him. They do.


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[Assistant] It just, it gives him a little more flexibility and he's certainly a...


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[Assistant] He's the best matchup corner on Mike Evans we've seen in football really over the last five, six years.


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[Assistant] So say you bet $100 on Chris Olavi to score the first TD tonight, Ahmed. If you win, you'll get $1,200. But if you lose, you still get $100 worth of free bets. Win-win situation there.


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[Assistant] Alright everybody, I hope you enjoyed. I will not be sick for the Wednesday podcast. We're gonna be treasure hunting. I don't know that. You're right.


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[Assistant] Any penalties? I'd love to do that shit. I love it. Alright? So, Chris Sims, Ahmed Fareed. We'll see you Wednesday. Yep. We'll have our hard hats on. Treasure hunting. Ahmed, thanks for leading the charge.


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[Assistant] Thanks for watching, homies. Hit subscribe to see all my Unbuttoned videos. You get to see me, Ahmed Fareed, all the big player breakdowns, game breakdowns, player interviews, and my film analysis. So please subscribe. Chris Sims, Unbuttoned. Peace out.


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[Assistant] You're asleep. I was up late. I got to sleep. I heard you complaining about it for 15 minutes when you showed up. I got to sleep. I'm always in a fog this morning. I can't sleep. I'm going to fog the rest of the week too.


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[Assistant] This is great though. They asked me last week and it's like, yeah, why not? You know, I'm able to catch a later flight. I'll get home just in time to watch the Monday night game and yeah.


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[Assistant] I really did not know what I was saying. And this, this is the Chuck Foreman hoodie. I have two of them. Great business model by Chuck Foreman. I ordered one last year. He signed it. So when I got it, it's like, I can't wear the one that he signed, so I had to buy another one.


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[Assistant] Awesome, brilliant move, Chuck. So I have two of these, and I wore it because it was the Chuck Foreman revenge game.


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[Assistant] Chuck tied it. OJ had one touchdown that day and beat it. He finished with 23. Chuck came into the game with 18, but he had four. Wow. And he finished leading the NFC with receptions, leading the NFC with scoring, and he was six yards short of leading the NFC in rushing. He was six yards behind Jim Otto.


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[Assistant] It affected his day. And Bud Grant said, you're not going back in. And actually by the end of the game, the snowball throwing was so bad.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was in Buffalo. Outdoors in Buffalo. Okay, so it was there. Gotcha. So, so, and, and there were quotes afterward like, Fran Targon, this is the biggest travesty I've ever seen. It was ridiculous. It was embarrassing. The fans, they didn't care. It was the last game of the year. They just went, went off and started throwing a bunch of snowballs, but they were packed with ice. I mean, they were, yeah.


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[Assistant] Well no, it's faded a lot. When they're good, what happens was, for me, and this occurred in 2017, 2009,


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[Assistant] And I get emotional when I think about it and talk about it, but when they're good, it takes me back to being 9, 10, 11 years old, growing up, being with my parents, being dead for over 20 years. So it kind of rewinds the feeling to that, which is what really gets me. It's easier for me when they suck.


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[Assistant] But, but my son is, is like, you know, he was texting me, I'm going to vomit. I can't watch this and, and he's going to the game this weekend. I told you yesterday, he's going to the Vikings Cowboys game in Minnesota. He's been wanting to go.


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[Assistant] Alright, so what's like? Well, here's another one that you'll appreciate.


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[Assistant] It was only the second time since the merger that a team took the lead on a defensive touchdown in the final minute of regulation. Do you know the other time that happened?


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[Assistant] Two times since the merger that had happened. And of course, they, they blew the lead, they took the lead.


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[Assistant] When the Eagles took the lead, they won the game. When the Vikings took the lead, they still had to work a little harder.


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[Assistant] To end, and I knew it was going to end in some crazy fashion. It wasn't going to be a conventional finish with all that shit that happened.


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter what I think. What matters is what guys in the locker room think. And when I talk to Patrick Peterson about it. They believe. They believe. And this is the thing where they have faith that in those moments


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[Assistant] When they're down, 10, 17, whatever, somebody's gonna step up and make a play. Somebody's gonna make something happen. And Chris, I think what the other side of this is.


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[Assistant] The Vikings will believe when they're in these tough moments that something good is gonna happen. And eventually what will occur is...


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[Assistant] Expressing a very high degree of confidence that this tells us this is our year. This tells us we're going to the Super Bowl. They believe it. And the problem is, for the opponents, they are going to, well maybe it is their year. At some point, you see, when you see what happened yesterday, how do you not come away from that game thinking,


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[Assistant] Maybe it is their year. He makes that catch. Maybe it is their day. And they still thread needles repeatedly to make it their day. You, you, you start to think, I mean, shit.


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[Assistant] No, no, it's just like last week. They go up, they have a great opening drive. Right. They go up seven nothing. Right. And then they just like go to sleep until the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] And I was still like, ah, shit, they're still down by 10 points.


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[Assistant] Right after it. Right, right. And it was the, it was the Patrick Peterson. I got something for you. Yeah. Because after talking to Peterson about both interceptions. Yeah. And this fits with something we talked about last week.


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[Assistant] Number one, they rely too much on Josh Allen to save their ass. Always. And number two, they're not doing enough self-scouting because it was clear from talking to Patrick Peterson that both of those interceptions were the product of film study. Of knowing the tendencies in the red zone, knowing that what to do when Josh Allen breaks the pocket. First thing he did.


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[Assistant] As soon as Alan, you know, when Alan breaks the pocket, he pushed Isaiah McKenzie out of bounds and you can see on the replay, McKenzie is standing there flat-footed. He doesn't even get in the pursuit


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[Assistant] After Peterson makes the interception, he's like a spectator. So Peterson shoved him out of bounds, legal hit at that point, once the quarterback's out of the pocket, and then he saw, I think he thought it was Dawson Knox flashing past him, and he knew he was gonna throw it.


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[Assistant] This is the, this is the great challenge week in and week out, day in and day out, using your hours to try to stay ahead of the film study that you know your opponents are doing, and are the Bills staying ahead of it, or are they just too content to say, we got Josh Allen and you don't, so we don't need to worry about those details.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I said, what happened to the 30 yard line? Cause it's just like, you completely, like, it was like the, the, the power cord got pulled out. He said, it was a long drive and I'm old. And he said, I just ran out of gas in the thirties. And I knew I wasn't going 105 yards.


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[Assistant] This is all, like, come on, come on, believe, believe, and then we're gonna rip your heart off and omam shiba, omam shiba. I feel like that's still coming at some point. That's the way you are.


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[Assistant] I mean we're out here, I mean nobody's around, but it just feels odd to be saying out here.


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[Assistant] I got two points real quick. One, the NFL admitted that they should have reviewed the Gabe Davis sideline catch on the final driver regulation and it would have been overturned. Do they admit that if the Vikings don't win the game? That's what I want to know.


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[Assistant] When the team that got screwed at the drive through ends up, ends up winning. Second.


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[Assistant] How do you even prepare for that? Like, do you carve out time in practice? Is there ever a time where you can simulate that? Even come close to simulating that? Did you ever practice a situation like that when you were in the NFL?


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[Assistant] I hope that that play doesn't encourage, and I don't think it will, others to dust off the Shiano strategy of normal victory formation if it's a one score game. I hope it won't. I don't think it will. Teeing off like that, knowing you can freak out the center maybe and get lucky.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm sitting there thinking, well, it was fun while it lasted, it was memorable, I figured it was good. I was saying I'd rather they lose by 40 than have this happen.


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[Assistant] I was done. It was done. And then all of a sudden, I'm thinking, I thought it was gonna be a safety. I didn't, I had no idea that it was loose ball. I thought maybe they tackled him in the end zone and then all of a sudden it's like, holy, holy, holy shit. They, they got the ball.


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers as the seventh seed, Minnesota as the two seed. Oh boy, here we go.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady coming to Minnesota. Come at something. Oh boy, here we go. Because I've been saying all along, Kirk Cousins versus these guys.


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[Assistant] Doesn't an outcome like yesterday elevate how Kirk Cousins views himself? I don't know. It should.


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[Assistant] The quote to Peter King from Justin Jefferson. Breaking the huddle on that fourth down and 18 play. Cousins just said to Jefferson, be ready, I may just throw it up to you. And it worked! How does that not give everybody involved confidence? So, we'll see. We'll see. They've got...


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[Assistant] Cowboys, short week, Thanksgiving night, Patriots, Jets, after that, three straight home games, then they go to Detroit, and then they've got Colts, Giants, five out of six games at home.


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[Assistant] No more outdoors games until Lambeau Field Week 17, Soldier Field Week 18. Table set. We'll see.


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[Assistant] But what we do during the show is whatever's big from the day. That's the one thing. There's nothing that isn't already known, isn't gonna be available by 7 o'clock. It's what happens during the day. So you never know what's gonna happen. Could be another game like the one we saw. Who knows? You never know where one of these games are gonna come from.


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[Assistant] I'd like to know Chris with a game Sunday and Thursday. Because Aaron Rodgers for the past month and a half hasn't been practicing on Wednesday. That thumb needs time to recover. I wonder if they deliberately went into this game.


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[Assistant] We're not gonna throw it as much. We need to have that thumb recover by Thursday. That's the next question for them. Will he be ready to go Thursday night? How close to 100% will he be? But they ran the ball.


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[Assistant] What a shocker. You establish the run, Aaron Jones, 148 yards, and it makes it easier to pass. And they use play action. And Christian Watson, three touchdowns. That's the difference.


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[Assistant] I like this because it reinforces my point. He should have been there for the off-season program. He should have gotten his guys together wherever he has his mansion or mansions in the off-season and gotten these guys comfortable because now they're getting comfortable. In November. They should have been comfortable in September.


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[Assistant] Yes, yes, they can. They can. Now, they've got this game.


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[Assistant] Short week against the Titans on Thursday night. I am wondering how healthy Aaron Rodgers will be. And then they've got a little extra time to get ready for a trip to Philadelphia, which could be one hell of a game. And then they've got the Bears and then their bye week. So I think they could pull themselves back into contention and hey,


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[Assistant] You know, we have assumed Cowboys, Giants to the wild card spots and an all out Scrum for the last one. Well, now the...


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[Assistant] The Packers hold the tiebreaker if it comes down to them and the Cowboys for one of those spots. Not that the Cowboys are going to implode, but you know what's funny? Last week, the narrative is, hey, Mike McCarthy's perfectly comfortable, there's no more talk about him getting fired after this season, no Sean Payton talk. Well, games like yesterday, if they continue, and if that's your last game of the season, like if this had been playoff loss with this performance by McCarthy,


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[Assistant] If it went into the wind, it would have been a 50 yard field roll, and it doesn't end the game. Yea, it doesn't end the game. And uhm, I didn't like the play.


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[Assistant] But the play didn't, like, the Vikings had a play, they went for a fourth down play, and they didn't even show a run look, and it was just kinda like, what, what are you doing?


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[Assistant] It just, sometimes these fourth down plays, and this gets back to the whole analytics thing. The analytics say you should go for it. Okay, fine, but what's my play gonna be? Yeah, I gotcha. And I just didn't, it didn't look like a great play, and McCarthy slammed down the headset,


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[Assistant] You know, the emotion is, obviously it was very real for him yesterday, and I don't know if it crept into his head a little bit, but I don't have a problem with going for it in that spot, my problem is I just, the play, I think


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[Assistant] I don't like shotgun on fourth or third and less than five. Shotgun gives away that you're gonna throw it, and if you're gonna run it, you got your tail back starting flat footed, which is kind of the equivalent of having a hand behind your back.


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[Assistant] And Chris, one other fact that contributes to the Mike McCarthy suddenly isn't as safe as he was a week ago. First time in the history of the franchise. They blew a 14 point. They blew a 14 point lead going down.


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[Assistant] This isn't exactly a team that barely ever has a 14 point lead going into the fourth quarter. 195 and 0 they had been, thank you Pete. 195 and 1.


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[Assistant] Yep, alright. Green bed. That's the kind of shit that gets Jerry a little antsy. He's gonna roll out of bed and be all gravelly voiced one of these days and he's gonna say, get me Jean-Pierre.


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[Assistant] And you mentioned cracking the code, the Vikings with Dalvin Cook and Alexander Madison coming up this weekend.


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[Assistant] Be coordinating New England's offense by Christmas, if not Thanksgiving.


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[Assistant] That's, it's just trying to predict the decisions of the inherently unpredictable. Right. And after what happened last week with the cults,


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[Assistant] How do you not at least put on the radar screen the possibility of Mark Davis doing something completely and totally kooky right now?


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[Assistant] You know, trying to fire him for cause. We don't know what's been going on behind the scenes. Fire him for cause and not pay him like his dad did with Elaine Kiffin. His dad's unpredictable, he's unpredictable. They're all unpredictable and they had the cults in town and maybe they caught some of that unpredictable virus from Jim Ursay. So that's why I don't rule out anything at this point. That's gotta be the low water.


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[Assistant] It has to be in Las Vegas. It can't get any worse than that. To lose at home to a team that was in complete and total disarray. To do what they did last week.


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[Assistant] To fire your coach, replace him with someone from the outside, and oh by the way, we've got a game this weekend. Who's gonna call the plays? I don't know. How about the guy that was getting the coaches dry cleaning three years ago? Let's have him do it. Because Scott Milanovic said no because he wanted a raise and they were too cheap to give him a raise. The whole thing was weird.


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[Assistant] And they still won the freaking game. And here comes Matt Ryan back from the glue factory. He's not starting the rest of the year. Now he's starting again. Unbelievable.


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[Assistant] But he said, he said Monday night Sam Ellinger is the starter, now maybe between Monday and Wednesday he realized, why are we starting?


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[Assistant] If he can't pass a physical by the middle of March, they owe him 29 million. That's the risk they assume. He gets an injury at some point this year and he can't pass a physical by the middle of March, they owe him 29 million. That's why he got benched.


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[Assistant] That's why he was gonna be putting bubble wrap, and now they've gone the other way. Three weeks later, they've gone the other way.


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[Assistant] Is he signing over his entire life to this? Is he gonna be sleeping in the office? Now, when he was there, you know, Tony Dungy,


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[Assistant] Most successful coach by far who didn't live that maniacal over the top


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[Assistant] Stay all night. Work ethic. And it worked. And it worked.


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[Assistant] Maybe, maybe Saturday I'll try to do the same thing. It's a hell of a story. And I'm, I'm conflicted on this. I love a good story. I still think it's an affront to all of the hardworking coaches out there that you could pluck somebody who's been out of the league for 10 years, had no college or pro coaching experience and put him in that job. And I don't know why there are people in the media that don't understand what


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[Assistant] Jeff Saturday had two different opportunities. Chris Ballard said this last week. Kauer was talking about it like he was breaking news. Ballard said it on Monday night. We tried to hire him twice before to be the offensive line coach. And it didn't work out. Yea, cause he said no.


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[Assistant] So, he could have made it easier for everyone if he'd already been on the staff. If he's already on the staff last weekend making the head coach.


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[Assistant] We may say, well, you got John Fox and you got Gus Bradley, but then again, they're not head coaches for a reason. Okay, at least he's on the staff. He knows what's going on in the building. It's not as kooky as grabbing a former player out of the blue out of a TV studio. And if it works, like, hey, you'll be the head coach of the Jaguars.


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[Assistant] And he took the high road, he had some comments to Peter King because Joe Thomas said that Jim Ursay hired his drinking buddy and Cowers said what he said. Well, Joe Thomas is a hater, so you can't listen to Joe Thomas. And Jeff Saturday goes, uh, high road. Yeah. High road. Yeah. For now.


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[Assistant] That's good, that's good. Now is that actually house music? Is that like? I think it's something here that NBC has got.


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[Assistant] Brandon Staley had some attitude, like, why don't we get more credit? Well, because it's a fraudulent five and three. You keep trying to lose games. Like, you're making these decisions to put your team in a bad spot. How are you five and three now, five and four? How does it happen? How is it sustainable? And, uh, I, again, we get to see him again, Sunday night, two weeks in a row.


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[Assistant] Chargers Chiefs this week, and I don't expect the outcome to be any different, and we're probably gonna line up, uh, sweating bullets last night, we're all lined up, everybody picked the 49ers, that's the recipe for disaster, but we're probably gonna be all lined up, everybody's picking the Chiefs, there was nothing last night that would make me think that the Chargers are gonna be able to beat the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] I still, I said it last night and I'll say it again, the 49ers are the most dangerous team in the NFC if their main core of players is healthy. That's the big question. Can they keep these guys healthy as they make their push? But now they're five and four and off they go. And it's funny because a lot of people don't even consider them a dark horse team.


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[Assistant] But they were 4-4 through 8 games. Yeah. And it's amazing they're 4-4.


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[Assistant] But it's those, those injuries come together. You know, they have too many guys injured. They lose to the Falcons. Too many guys injured. They, they don't get it done. And, and I think that they keep these guys together to keep them healthy. And, and it's going to be something even with Jimmy G. They can overcome Jimmy G.


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[Assistant] And it's a Kyle thing too, but it's also, you know.


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[Assistant] Jimmy doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that if he wasn't playing football, he'd be finishing up medical school.


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[Assistant] You're already salty on a Monday, and I assume this is a normal Monday for you. I haven't dealt with you on a Monday in a long time.


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[Assistant] The violation was the lowering the helmet to initiate contact with an opponent and and Justin Herbert was already down and Dre Greenlaw had options. If you watch that play, the knee hits


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[Assistant] Instantaneously, nanosecond before Greenlaw hits him.


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[Assistant] And Green Law's already committed, the target gets moved as he's beginning to make his move, and what bothers me about it is they never call that penalty. It's almost like, this looks bad, we gotta do something.


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[Assistant] And I wonder too, Chris, whether they felt compelled to do something because of the travesty in Kansas City where they didn't even throw the flag. They threw it and picked it up with the Juju Smith Schuster. Right. You got quotes last night from- But that was a clean hit, too. Well, well, they determined it was clean, but I don't know how you get a- I mean, I know how you can get a concussion on a hit like that because it's whiplash and it's movement of the head. Well, that's the one thing that's real-


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[Assistant] But regardless, no, no, no, but with the Dre Greenlaw thing, they found it was a violation of the lowering the helmet rule. It was that rule that just came up out of nowhere in 2018. It was crafted by health...


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[Assistant] Remember it created chaos in the 2018 preseason and then it kind of goes away and then it comes back and like it doesn't get flagged but they find guys and we don't know who they're finding for it like they're looking for it but you rarely see it flagged and I almost feel like New York


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[Assistant] We gotta do something here. It looks bad. He got hit. It looked vicious. We gotta do something about it.


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[Assistant] The objection is so crazy to me, I don't even know where to begin with that. And that's why I think it was a reaction to the criticism about how the Juju Smith Schuster thing was handled. Where there's a thread that runs through what happened in the afternoon and it culminates in a standalone game. There's an opportunity. Because Marquez Valdez Cantlin came out and said, are they really protecting us?


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[Assistant] As he gets past some of these off-field issues, right? It's been more than two weeks ago. Right. It was right after that Ravens game where Devin White was loafing on at least one play. He was heavily criticized.


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[Assistant] Brady last Monday night said at times the effort on game day is embarrassing. Todd Bowles said the next day there's no issue with the effort. Brady doubled down. Brady doubled down later in the week.


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[Assistant] This is where a guy who is a great leader, who holds himself accountable and is, is willing to, I think back to the story that Devin White told when the Pro Bowl


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[Assistant] I don't give a shit about the Pro Bowl. We're not here to make the Pro Bowl. We're here to make it to the Super Bowl. And then remember when


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[Assistant] We got another game. That's the kind of thing, and I think about them, and I think about


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[Assistant] The Vikings. I think about the Eagles. I think about these other teams that don't have someone like that. Who...


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[Assistant] In those moments is going to keep guys focused and now he applied the red hot poker. You know they went to a game that felt like a bigger game. Super Bowl, playoff game, college bowl game, whatever, and we see them at their best. Running the ball, playing good defense, and making it easier for Tom Brady to do everything except catch a


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[Assistant] Becoming even louder in their cries for us to go over to England. We're gonna have to go to Germany because they were singing Country Roads.


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[Assistant] In the stadium. And they know the words in English. We gotta go to Germany.


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[Assistant] Minimize the travel time. One in Munich and then one in another German city, unless one of these other European countries makes strong enough pitch. Right, right. But Roger Goodell, speaking at an event in connection with one of the London games,


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[Assistant] Acknowledge the possibility of a division. Now, I don't know if you're talking expansion teams, if you're talking about relocation, probably a combination of both. And the Jaguars are a candidate, they've always been a candidate to move to England. And it's a money thing.


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[Assistant] Shad Khan is gonna make more money owning that team if it's based in London than if it's based in Jacksonville. Period. He did not buy that team because he's a Jacksonville native who


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[Assistant] Spent his whole life dreaming about owning the Jacksonville Jaguars. He just wanted to buy an NFL team. He tried to buy the Rams. Stan Kronke had a right of first refusal. So Kronke gets the Rams and Kahn gets the Jaguars and it won't surprise me just as Kronke moved the Rams.


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[Assistant] It won't surprise me if at some point Khan moves to Jaguars, and of course until the day he does, he's gonna deny it, and then he'll just do it.


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[Assistant] There will be, soon, most of these Sunday mornings, we're gonna be watching a football game, and not, and not paying any attention to the pregame shows.


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[Assistant] Because one of the benefits of going to 17 regular season games is it creates the opportunity for every team to play in a neutral side game and still have 8 home games. And so you could do, you could have literally a game every week at 9.30am eastern. That could be something that happens in the next few years.


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[Assistant] Unless the field. Now, you know, we, we, we, we wonder under what circumstances they will actually pull the plug on a field. Remember how bad that field was four years ago when they were going to play that epic Rams Chiefs game was going to be played in Mexico City and got moved to LA.


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[Assistant] You just can't physically do it for 10 years. You get to a point where all those hits you take when they are double and triple teaming you will start to have a toll. And that's why Aaron Donald was thinking about retiring. And he, you know, everybody asks Tom Brady, do you have regrets? Aaron Rodgers, do you have regrets? I'm waiting for somebody to ask Aaron Donald, do you regret coming back?