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[Assistant] Probably wasn't a Hall of Fame career, but it was close. I was going to say how you can say Tom Brady had two Hall of Fame careers. If Andy Reid just won a Super Bowl with the Eagles, you'd go, he had two Hall of Fame careers with two different football teams.


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[Assistant] Uh, he doesn't get that probably because in Philadelphia he lost the Super Bowl and then what, lost three other, four other NFC championship games to get to the Super Bowl that hurt that, but he's making up for it now.


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[Assistant] No, it's hard. I actually like what the guys did. The top two picks there.


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[Assistant] You know, for Dexter to break out the way he did and jump into the best defense to tackle convo, but yeah, Gino in that year is, it was a special year and good for Gino and he was my comeback player of the year with my AP voting. If they broke it down this way, yeah, I would have made him breakout player and then.


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[Assistant] I probably would have made comeback player of the year Saquon Barkley.


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[Assistant] Over McCaffrey. McCaffrey was awesome. Don't get me wrong. Right? You know, but like, do, I think


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[Assistant] That Saquon Barkley could have done what McCaffrey did if he was on the 49ers football team? Of course they do.


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[Assistant] You know, you said it earlier in the pod. I think everybody saw...


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[Assistant] Like what? They didn't have a two yard run up the middle? What was everybody watching? What's everybody talking about?


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[Assistant] It's like, hey, I'm uh, Justin Jefferson, that game, that's still one of the most amazing games of the year. And those plays there?


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[Assistant] Where I just, you know, there was, there was three or four plays in the third, late third, fourth quarter where it was just like, just throw it up, then we'll just, he'll catch it.


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[Assistant] And that's where it got to, and yeaah, that was a huge game. They were down, what, 27 to 10 maybe, I think, in Buffalo, something like that. So I'm with you there. Now, I couldn't disagree with the homies more about that second performance. I couldn't.


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[Assistant] I couldn't disagree more. And you know that. And I'm not gonna hold back again.


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[Assistant] There's no way that was the second best performance of the year. Sorry. NBC says that we have to stop the podcast. The two one inch rushing touchdowns. The monumental fumble in the second quarter.


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[Assistant] The mid, the advantage of the game that was not taken advantage of. Listen, we know the Eagles D was good. We knew Mahomes was good. We knew there was going to be a chance that the Chiefs offense would be able to move the ball against the Eagles defense. We knew that.


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[Assistant] What we didn't know was, could the Chiefs ever stop the Eagles? That was the question anybody had in the game. That's why all the Fox analysts picked the Eagles to win by 10 points before the game. Right? A fumble


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[Assistant] A three and out and two field goal drives. The best offense in football couldn't do that against a non-top ten defense. There's no way that was one of the best performances of the year, homies. Come on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, that was a moment, certainly. That was the moment the two were coming out party were like, oh crap, the Dolphins might have something here. Damn, they're kind of dangerous and holy crap. They're fun to watch too. I think that was up there. It certainly was. I feel like I'm missing one that I thought of the other day and I can't think about it right now. Uhm, but either way, that's, that's good enough. Yeah.


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[Assistant] That was pretty good. That was amazing. There really was.


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[Assistant] Look at all my concerned NBC working fellas. There's uh, yeah, Florio looking. Oh yeah, he fell. There's Matt Casey just laughing at me. Haha, you fell, you jerk. Yeah, Mike laughed. Gosh. Matt Casey pointed. Only the guy who made the stage came to help me cause he was worried that I was gonna get mad at him for making the stage not good enough.


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[Assistant] And it's on to the next thing. It will be all about free agency, the draft, all that, coming to a theater near you on a weekly basis, twice a week. And you and I will be back on what, Thursday?


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[Assistant] Combine interviews is how we're gonna do that this week. Okay, so I was a little off there. It'll be combine interviews, things that Mike and I do, not on the live show.


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[Assistant] We are doing a live show from 12 to 3 on Peacock, but we will be there much longer than that to do other interviews with other guys and coaches, uh, prospects, coaches, all that type of stuff. I like your coaches interviews. Thanks man.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was awesome, right? It was a great interview. Awesome, yeah. So, uh, it's always, it's always good to be out there and hope everybody enjoyed this podcast. Ahmed, you the man. Thanks for leading the charge. Once again, no red pants. Kind of disappointed after the break, but we'll forgive you because your tan is so damn handsome looking.


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[Assistant] You're the Big Butt Award guy, so I got so much respect for you. Alright, alright everybody, be good, stay in touch, you know where to find us, rate, review, subscribe, and uh, we'll see you live next week. Hey, pay attention to these Combine interviews, we'll have fun, but it'll be a normal schedule coming next Monday. Alright, peace out, clap it up.


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[Assistant] Thanks for watching, homies. Hit subscribe to see all my Unbuttoned videos. You get to see me, Ahmed Fareed, all the big player breakdowns, game breakdowns, player interviews, and my film analysis. So please subscribe. Chris Sims, Unbuttoned. Peace out.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes in that ankle. I think this game is close or the Chiefs are winning. And so Pacheco, who's a hammer. Look, I know they activated CEH, but I don't think you see a lot of him. So, uh, Isaiah Pacheco.


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[Assistant] Who had 57% of the snaps last game, last game against Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] I like, you know, they're not sexy. All they do is make you money. Give me Harrison Butcher over one and a half field goals. He's had five made field goals in KC's two playoff games so far, right? He's had at least two in both of the playoff games, multiple field goal attempts in seven of the last team games overall. We think the Eagles defense is pretty good, especially when they're getting close. Butcher has long range.


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[Assistant] Andy Reid's not going to be scared to, uh, to let him kick it, especially because I think if you look at sort of the fourth down, Sirianni is a much more aggressive coach on fourth down than Andy Reid. He's a much more conservative coach. So my guess is that


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[Assistant] Eagles are gonna play them tough. Harrison Butker gets at least two field goal attempts in this game. I think he nails them both. Give me the over on Butker, one and a half field goals. Wow, one and a half field goals. Okay, alright.


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[Assistant] Then people think as well, I don't think they're going to want to run him as much. I think they're going to need to win this on Jalen Hurts's arm. Give me the under 50 and a half rushing yards for Jalen Hurts.


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[Assistant] Bird of a different color. Okay. The Philadelphia Eagles and that Superbowl 57 matchup one more time. We're going to unpack it in depth. I watched the film. We're going to break it down.


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[Assistant] Ahmed Fareed. What's up, Slugger? How's it happening?


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[Assistant] Man, what the hell do I do now? Now what? It is like, yeah, gosh, do I have to really start watching free agents and draft on film? Do I have to really start doing that already? I hope you've already done that. Uh, yeah, no, I have not. Yeah, I'm not, so I got a lot of work ahead of me, but.


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[Assistant] I hope everybody's good out there and I think we got some good things to talk about in this one here. Certainly it was an interesting game. It's always an interesting game to unpack when one team has to kinda


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[Assistant] Do something crazy above and beyond to win the football game, and we kinda got that, you know? We saw...


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[Assistant] We saw the better team lose and usually when that happens that entails, you know, either mistakes or some sort of outside the box great game planning and that's where I'm giving a little tease and I think we'll have some good talks here.


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[Assistant] A little bit surprised, a little bit more like watching the game. I said in Monday, it looked like they sold out to stop the run, right? They sold out to an extent more that I even like, I was like, Oh my God, I can't even believe they're doing this defense right here. So that, that was maybe the thing, but you know, it is, it is, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, a few different things we'll hit on that I think are interesting about the football game. But I think that was the thing that jumped out to me maybe more than the rest. And then, uhm, you know, the Chiefs D line.


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[Assistant] The de-tackles, I knew they were kinda playing good, obviously, if they were slowing the run down.


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[Assistant] The way they hung in there, and kind of like, at their very worst, just stalemated some battles, you know, didn't lose them, right? So that was big, definitely. But like, I've watched the game on film, I watched the game live.


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[Assistant] I watched the rerun Monday night. The TV broadcast. The TV broadcast rerun almost every play. I missed a few little minutes here and there where I went into the kitchen or whatever else. And then I watched it again last night. It was on again last night. And like everybody in my family was kind of doing stuff.


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[Assistant] And I was like, you know, I'm just going to kind of sit here and watch it one more time and kind of just like, you know, what jumps out to me? What field do I have? What, you know, just be kind of like, Hey, I know how the game went on, but it was my feel right. And so like, I feel like I'm ready to talk about this one now.


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[Assistant] That's why it was hard to, even though I picked them last week and tried to unpack the game, right? And yeah, hey, I think there's some areas here where, like, I think people are over-evaluating. I think the Chiefs can hang in there in this area and all that. But like, one of my things is kind of like what you're talking about. Almost trusting...


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[Assistant] Your gut a little bit more. I've learned that from you and Florio a little bit. Maybe not to be sowing the weeds and be like, well, they have a disadvantage at the three technique, so I'm going to pick the game over that, right? You know, like,


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[Assistant] The Chiefs are just the ultimate get it done team. That's what's amazing about them. It's not always like, you know, master class surgery on the offensive side of the ball and not always like the most dominant defensive thing you've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Like, they, I get, you know, where are we gonna start here? We're gonna start with that running game, right?


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[Assistant] And Forstin was in the game more than I, than I thought originally watching the game.


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[Assistant] Pacheco didn't play as much. I thought there was a little too much McKinnon, honestly, in the game. So I'm gonna go with four of the five fastest ball carriers in the game are Eagles. You think that is true? I think no. Wait, there's two stats. Oh, and a lie. Hold on, hold on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm gonna say that's the one's a lie. I'm gonna say it's a lie.


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[Assistant] It's, like, beyond. That's where this game is shocking again, the more I just go by it, you know, and we'll hit on it in a second, but keep going on here.


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[Assistant] Out of another free agent wide receiver burner.


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[Assistant] You know, to the group, let alone the young guys in the defense are going to be better, right?


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[Assistant] Receiver on that football team next year. I think he will be the guy, it'll be Kelsey and Tony, the game plans will be orchestrated around those two guys.


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[Assistant] And then, yea, Pacheco, like I knew the snaps were low because they didn't play him early on, right? It was more Clyde Edwards-Helaire. I didn't realize it was that low. But even late in the season, he wasn't having games where he was over. No, even in this game itself, this game itself, I thought there was a few moments where I was just going, damn, Pacheco hasn't been in like a series, two series, ten plays, whatever.


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[Assistant] Uh, you're right, it's a little more surprising than you think.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, he's had little issues that way with the feet, the ankles, whatever, but, you know, hopefully they recognize that and get him on the right program and, you know, he can make those things stronger to where it doesn't, you know, become an issue on a regular basis.


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[Assistant] Is even better than it was statistically during the year, but I think teams had to go so all in sometimes to stop the run or play run defense. They were just like, well, we're going to throw it. I mean, this is just like, it's AJ Brown one on one. We're going to do that. Right? So the chiefs had to like, try to balance of, they had to do a balance of like,


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[Assistant] Wait, this might not be the pass look you like. You don't want to pass this. You're, you want to run it. Oh, set hut. Oh, it's not the look you think, or we're coming down to stop the run, right? Doing all that.


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[Assistant] We talked about in our, you know, what the F will happen podcast, you know, 10 days before the Super Bowl. I said, Hey, right. Chiefs, when they played the Bengals had to be different coverages. You play the Eagles. Yeah. Different coverages are good, but more importantly, different fronts.


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[Assistant] Defensive alignment, linebacker alignment is going to be more key to the football game. And they had to do something special. Uhm, you said it.


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[Assistant] You know, this Eagles team, there's a reason, again, like, guys that have been around, football experts, all the people we saw on Fox, they picked the Eagles to win by seven, ten points, right? Greg Olson comes on, they broadcast, this is, you know, you talk to people in the NFL, this is the roster in football, right?


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[Assistant] It's a freaking all-star team they got. I mean, there's no weakness to their team. There's no one position you can look at and go,


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[Assistant] That spot right there, right? So, and Kansas City, again, they're not too shabby, we know that, but they're not that. They're not that. It's not a-


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[Assistant] All time defensive front. Right. Best offensive line we've seen in football maybe in the last 10 years when you talk to people around football. I mean, some people think more than that, right? I mean, they're in, they're in almost an inevitable force to a degree like, Hey, we're running it here and you know it.


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[Assistant] Yes, so now let's get into it a little bit. So yes, here's the first thing. The Chiefs recognize we can't play them straight up and do what we normally gonna do. We'll normally play defense. If we do that, they're gonna just obliterate us. There's no way.


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[Assistant] So, that's the first thing I want to give them credit for. Recognizing, cause a lot of coaches will have ego and be like, woah.


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[Assistant] We're pretty good too. If we just play what we do and, you know, I call good run, like we'll be okay.


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[Assistant] So the, the, the ability to be realistic with yourself and self-scout thyself and go, okay, wait, wait, we, we, we have some matchup problems here, so we gotta change things up, right? You know, that, and then...


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[Assistant] The guts to actually go through with it is where I will give Steve Spagnolo incredible credit here. To me it's, it, to me it's one of the greatest game plans in Super Bowl history. I'm gonna just throw that out there right now. It really is. You know, it's definitely one of the gutsiest. Like, I, to me it goes up there with, you know,


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[Assistant] Giants, Bills, Belichick, drop eight people every play. You know, Patriots, Rams, Belichick, Brady and them beating the Rams in that first Super Bowl, right? Spags, upsetting the undefeated Patriots as the defensive coordinator of the Giants.


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[Assistant] But I think if he doesn't come up with this unbelievable game plan and the gutsiness of this game plan, they're gonna get steamrolled. They're not gonna, they're gonna have no chance to win the football game. And that's to me where it was amazing.


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[Assistant] They play defenses, you saw my notes, where I'd go, he must have been chuckling.


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[Assistant] Or during the week, like going, am I really going to call this defense in the middle of the field on a second and nine? Like I, I guarantee he called some defenses and some moments in this game where he's going, I've never called that defense ever in that down a distance on the, on this part of the field ever in my life. And I've been a defensive coordinator forever.


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[Assistant] So, that is where it was amazing. It was an unbelievable, great changing of the fronts like we just talked about.


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[Assistant] Well, it confuses them, it just doesn't allow them to just settle in and hunker in on, hey, hey, what's the play Shane Steichen and Nick Sirianni? Oh yea, you know the front, right? Alright, call that perfect play so, you know, we know exactly, oh yea, we got the play perfect. So they never could get like to that perfect play always. I think that's the biggest thing.


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[Assistant] And then, within the alignments too, what you do when they change it up and, you know, bare front, and then sometimes they had all four linemen.


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[Assistant] All like inside shoulder, right? Wasn't bare front, it was like in between the gap of the guard in the center, in between the gap of the guard in the center, and inside the, inside the inside shoulder of the tackles, there's no like outside containment. And you're like, well, I've never seen them line up like this all year long.


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[Assistant] They had to do things too, one, to not let them get in rhythm, but two, to like affect, uh, as we talked about with the 49ers game. It can't always be like double team and that one guy gets up to the second level. So they got into some alignments that affected that, but it's the,


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[Assistant] You saw my notes, like there's plays where it's four receivers and they don't cover the slot or the safeties 20 yards deep. He's kind of responsible for him, right? He kind of making it look like it's covered too or it's covered too and they're just going, we're just, if they want to throw a, hey, turn around five yards, turn around 10 yards, it's going to be open. We're going to be in trouble.


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[Assistant] Because they'll, they were going, hey, four D linemen and then blitzing both nickel guys off the blitz, right? Six guys blitzing, nobody covering a slot. They had a second down call one time. They didn't cover the best receiver in football, AJ Brown. They just went, we can't stop this play here, so we want to run game blitz. We're worried about all these plays, right? It was actually the play.


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[Assistant] Jalen Hurts, Whirly Bird out to the left. He made a great escape, right? They had a free guy coming off his left side, if you remember.


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[Assistant] Right, here you go. Right. They had some plays like this during the game because they're worried about so many other things that they just went


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[Assistant] Alright, here it's back again to our calculated risk decision, right? Where, hey, you know, I know we're kind of void in this area.


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[Assistant] But we can't stop everything they do, so we're gonna, hey, it's a calculated risk, it's a gamble, we're rolling the dice a little bit. And that to me is what was amazing about the football game. It was amazing.


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[Assistant] And, you know, just the, hey, we gotta go all in and play this way, because if we don't and play the way we normally do, they're just gonna go five yards up the middle, five yards up the middle, hurts around the edge five yards, pick us apart in a zone coverage, run up the middle for five yards, another eight yard completion to AJ Brown, and they would have just died slow death after


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[Assistant] They were well disguised, well disguised in that. You know, they did a great job of holding things. You know, the Eagles are not an audible team. They're kinda like a 1-8, wait, we're so good, we're just gonna call the play and run it. Or they're...


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[Assistant] In my guesstimation, a two play in the huddle, hey, if they play this defense, run it, they play that defense, pass it, right? Or kind of that way, right? Or it's two runs, hey, if they play this front, we want to run the ball, if they play the other front, run the ball the other way, right? That kind of looks, I think I'm fair in saying that's what they are.


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[Assistant] So, one, the disguises are tough. Uh huh. Two,


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[Assistant] Like, there's no way they could have prepared for some of this stuff. There's no way. Some of these plays and defenses, they didn't play them this year.


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[Assistant] Some of these fronts, you'd go, they didn't play these, like, there's no way they were drawing these up on scout team cards going, hey, guys, we saw a whole game in week 12, they lined up like this a lot, we're ready for it, right? Some of these, they'd have been like, I don't know, we gotta figure out how we're gonna do this, whatever. Right? And then, you know, so, they couldn't prepare for that, and that's where,


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[Assistant] You know, again, Jaylen Hurts as good as he is and the growth he is, if he got to play this team like two years from now, three years from now, he'd go, well, I'll never let them play defense. And you might say why, right?


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[Assistant] Cause they're gonna, he's gonna, as he grows as a player here, he's gonna be able to, he's an audible. He's gonna go, wait, wait, there's nobody covering our slot receiver. Hey, check Mac protection. Check, you know, red 80. Hey, we're going 80, 80, 80. And then he starts signaling and he's gonna go, I'm not gonna let them play this defense. I, you know, dummy snap. Can I saw that nickel guy Blitzen?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna get to the right play here. How dare they think they're just gonna send 6 and stop the run. I'm gonna gash their ass with the pass, right?


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[Assistant] He's not there yet. They're not there. They haven't wired him there. They haven't had to do this yet. Right. This is the first time they got into a game where like, wait, what? Holy shit. All our answers in our normal offense isn't


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[Assistant] Just dominating. It was doing really good, but it wasn't dominating. And it is a, uh, to me again, I think an all time gutsy performance by Spags.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that'll probably be the thing. They go, Hey, you know, this is our next phase. Jalen, you know, we gotta, we can't let teams do some of these crazy defenses to us. We need you to get to a few audibles or blah, blah, blah. And we'll screw over these teams a little bit. You know, when they try to take away our


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[Assistant] Really, and didn't even really, you know, maybe scrambled once or twice in the second half? How do you think that happened? What happened? Well, I think one, it wasn't intentional.


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[Assistant] You know, hey, Kansas City, they're, they controlled the ball a little bit in the second half. Game script, you're down for the first time in the second half.


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[Assistant] No, no. You're right, it doesn't matter. Again, you saw in my notes, there's a few times in this game I'm going...


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[Assistant] So we can get into fours and threes so we can run it again. It's crazy. In the 2023 NFL or 2022 NFL.


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[Assistant] So I just think the game itself, you know, I'm sure they would have liked to have gotten to it. You know, one in the second half, the Chiefs were much better in their


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[Assistant] Scramble and their pass protection lanes. They did like that. We talked about the 49ers They never went past them in the second half. Yeah, they did the deep tackles just push the pocket and kind of waited So they were good with the scrambling department the run game thing. I just don't think it kind of


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[Assistant] He fell in place. They have the 17 play drive where they settle for the field goal, right? They kinda got behind the chains a few times. He made some great throws. On that drive, I honestly think he made the three greatest throws I've seen him make in his career.


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[Assistant] Really? He threw a crossing route, amazing. The goddard out route, amazing. And he threw a post route, again, on like second down, all out blitz again where you're like, I can't believe they're calling this right here. That Watkins dropped. And Quez Watkins, like, you know, it was out in front of him.


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[Assistant] But I look at it and go like, man, he, first off, he put his hands the wrong way. And second off, like, it didn't look like he really timed the ball with his running and his jumping there. Uhm, but certainly, like, I think you could say, eh, we'd expect our receiver to catch that football. To that point, you thought,


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[Assistant] We made more NFL throws in this game than I've ever seen them make in any game ever. Which is pretty cool to do it in the Super Bowl. The big show, no doubt about it. Exactly right. So that's again, those are things that are going to be, you know, positives to build on, for sure.


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[Assistant] But uhm, yeaah, so going back to the quarterback run thing, I just think there was that. Then the next drive, they went three and out, right, Amin? Three and out, the first play of the drive, if you remember, I think was a pass interference. They threw a little screen out to the edge, and they called illegal blocking downfield, OPI. They ended up going three out.


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[Assistant] Then they got the ball back and then of course they went on the touchdown drive where they were a machine. They didn't need anything, right? So I don't think, again, I think


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[Assistant] I don't, I'm not going to sit here and go, oh, the Eagles are so stupid, they didn't run the quarterback resigned run. It just didn't, didn't happen. I'm sure they would have liked to. And you know, some of the situations and I think the way the chief's defense presented itself changed that, you know, but on top of that too, here's another huge key to the game in my opinion. We talked about it a little Monday.


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[Assistant] Other than like AJ Brown at the end of the half and Devontae Smith on the first pl- first series of the game where he caught little RPO and broke-


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[Assistant] Yak was not a thing in the football game, so they did a great job with that, but they did a great job with screens and, uh, screens, the screen game, especially to the receivers and everything like that. The Chiefs did it. The Chiefs. Because usually what happens is you, you're pining defenses to sell out to stop the run.


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[Assistant] So then they go, well hey, here, we got numbers outside and it's our guys awesome and if he makes one guy miss, watch out cause you're in deep shit.


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[Assistant] But the Chiefs were great at tackling and handling those situations, even taking on the right blocking, again, to not let that kill them. Because I think once again, you let the running game and screen game gargoyne,


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[Assistant] Then your defensive head is, the defensive linebacker's heads are spinning. They're like, oh, it's play action, run, it's going everywhere. You'll never stop it. To me, that seemed to be their two focuses of the game. Stop the run.


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[Assistant] We, we still might lose, but we think that's the only chance. And, you know, again, I think it was the right


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[Assistant] Okay, the Chiefs D line though, it wasn't like overpowered. It wasn't just like, oh my gosh, everybody's four yards down the field every play, right? In fact, you know, we'll get into it in a minute. I could show you some plays where I go, I can't believe these Eagles D for the tackles are four yards down the field against the Chiefs O line.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was one of the first eye tests for me. It was just going, wait, can they, you know, not get totally steamrolled and they show that they were going to be, you know, a tough fight in that department. But yeah, Jones, Naughty, Dunlap, their size, and then,


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[Assistant] The star of the game on the defensive side of the ball was Nick Bolden. Nick Bolden showed, uh, he's my second team all-pro linebacker. He was everywhere. I mean, everywhere.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I can't say enough about him. They put him in some of the toughest spots.


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[Assistant] You know? Hey, line up here in the B gap, and then we're gonna have a guy smash down, and then we want you to kinda drop out of that B gap and be responsible over Jalen Hurts if he runs off the edge. Or, you know, we want you to take the B gap, but if they toss sweep it on that fake quarterback sneak toss sweep, right? We want you to get out there and still run out there and make the tackle. And then he crushes the running back. He played one of the best games of his life.


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[Assistant] There was just, you know, they did a few of the things that we talked about, like the 49ers needed to do against the Eagles, right? The Eagles are, if they know where you are and you line up perfectly, they're gonna block it perfectly and you're in deep crap.


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[Assistant] They did a little bit of, like we talked about, and this isn't always easy to do, but again, when you're the lesser team, you have to do some outside the box aggressive stuff.


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[Assistant] And they did the old like, hey, there's a hole, just run through it.


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[Assistant] No, the back will be there some, just get through there and get in the backfield and create a little chaos. And they did not hesitate in that department throughout the night. They were very impressive.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, that was a, right. They had the first third and four of the game. Frank Carter jumps off side. Isaac Cialmolo rocked back. You know, there's a reason Chris Jones jumped back. They all, now Isaac Cialmolo jumps off sides on that third and one before the Jalen Hurts fumble, right?


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[Assistant] Ball don't lie. Ball don't lie. Yea, right, seriously. In a lot of ways, it's amazing how the sports like that, right? Like, Devontae Smith gets lucky in the NSC Championship game, the Super Bowl, the same damn thing happens. They're like, oh, we got you this time, right? Yea. It is amazing, the karma of football that way. Right. But yes, they got away with one there.


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[Assistant] I thought I had like, even another player too, where I was like, uuuh, that's questionable. Cause he was tapping the center, and the center was, Kelsey was just taking a split longer than normal, so he was kinda like,


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[Assistant] Getting ready to put his weight back because he's a pass protect or whatever. And as he's rocking, the ball's not sad. And that one there was, yeaah, they got screwed over.


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[Assistant] I've slowed that down a lot too. He's perfect. I mean, it's amazing. Yeaah. He has the, he, it's like he's in the brain of the center. They've got a symbiotic relationship that way.


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[Assistant] Well, in Chris Simms' quarterback school, or anybody's quarterback schooling, if we're in like a beating room with Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, right? This is not a, you're not getting a positive grade for decision, right?


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[Assistant] You know, you're, you might get a positive just because yeaah, it became a touchdown, but they're gonna go, well, hey, this isn't really the look we wanted to throw the ball to AJ Brown to. Devontae Smith is wide open across the middle, as you see right here. Yeaah. I mean, he's got Nick Balder, there's no chance it's, he's gonna be gone for a big game. Damn, he might score, even if he throws it to him.


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[Assistant] Either way, he gives his guy a chance here, right? The funny thing is watching it back on film is AJ Brown was kind of giving up. He was like, well, he's not going to throw it to me. The guy's outside of me. I'm supposed to go outside there. He's right here. Turned into a good book. And then he turned around and he was like, Oh wait, the ball's coming.


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[Assistant] You know, put, put on the, you know, shifted into gears and caught it again. Uh, that was, you know, a big moment of the football game, but that was at a moment of the game too. I mean, and you just might have saw this on my notes. The first half, even though they gave up 24 points,


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[Assistant] There was so many moments and plays where you're like, oh, they got it. Ooh, they're this, oh, just make the tackle. Oh, just make the sack. Oh, you got him double covered, intercepted. Oh, whatever. You know, he throws another jump ball to A.J. Brown. He's double covered, intercepted. It goes off, you know, one Thornhill and A.J. Brown's hand.


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[Assistant] And you're just going, damn, they're just not going to be able to make the play today. They just, they can't make the play to get off the field or get them behind the chains or do anything. And then the second half they started to make those plays.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the bind they put you in. Again, it's an all-time offensive line. It's one of the best duos of receiver we have in football. You know, it's a really good tight end. So, yeaah, when you sell out to stop the run like that,


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[Assistant] Hey, they, they, they relied, let's throw the football, let's do that. And, you know, they, they gashed them. And made some plays there, certainly. And, and yes, Shane Steichen, that offense is awesome. And again, Jaylen Hurt's growth as a thrower. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, and there's that fine line of knowing, hey, this guy's my playmaker, he's the player, blah, blah, blah, all of that. That's all. Yeah, so there's that fine line. And then, you know, I think as


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[Assistant] He'll watch that back and he'll go, yeah, that was a touchdown, but I can't continually live like that. I'll get burned with football karma by the gods. That'll be an interception. But yeah, like this play right here, you know, again, you see Goddard, my, this was not a great decision. Throw anything.


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[Assistant] You know, this was a shot. These are what I'm talking about. Everybody else, everybody in the field's open. Devontae Smith's open out here on the comeback route. Goddard, nobody's covering him. Miles Sanders, nobody's covering him. Right? But again, the Eagles are so good, this is where


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[Assistant] They miss opportunities like this, and you're just like, ah, who cares, next play will be 10 yards, no big deal. I mean, that's what's amazing about them. And that's where they are. So uhm, yeaah. Again, there was a lot of positives there. There's some a little bit crazy talk on TV right now that I just don't understand a little.


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[Assistant] I'm hearing like, greatest performance in Super Bowl history. Great. Outperformed the guy who won the Super Bowl, right? Should have won the MVP in a losing effort. And I just want to say to the people who are saying that, you're crazy. You're crazy. That there's crazy thoughts. Those are crazy comments to come out of your mouth.


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[Assistant] That's crazy, and we're gonna break down the Chiefs offense right now, but like, Patrick Mahomes had maybe one negative play the whole game. He was on the lesser team.


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[Assistant] He played a defense that was better than his defense, that their whole game plan was stop him.


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[Assistant] Right? Right? And he was down by 10 points to start the second half against this all-star team.


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[Assistant] Right? That, this is where I don't understand the conversation. Jalen Hurts played really good, don't get me wrong. He also made one of the biggest Super Bowl blunders in the history of the sport.


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[Assistant] He also lost a 10 point lead while quarterbacking the team that was the best team in football. No one's just, no one, even watching the game back, no one argues that with the best online we've seen, the best duo at receiver and a really good tight end.


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[Assistant] And he outplayed the MVP, the guy who, and wasn't even 100%, the deck was stacked against him. Why? Just cause the numbers?


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't agree with that statement. I think, you know, to your point on Monday, I wish all quarterbacks were treated that fairly.


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[Assistant] Like if that was... Dak Prescott? Oh! Again, chokes and a big game, all that money we give him, what's the point?


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[Assistant] What's the point? Josh Allen? If Josh Allen fumbled the ball? Oh, Josh Allen doing Josh Allen things. Oh, Josh. Are you kidding me? Lamar Jackson? Oh, glorified running back. So you can't win the big game when he needs it. All they did, they played run defense all game. He couldn't beat him. He couldn't win the game with his right arm.


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[Assistant] I mean Aaron Rodgers did that? Oh great stats, but lost the game again. Typical Aaron Rodgers. That's all I'm


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[Assistant] Definitely, and you gotta take into a fact again that-


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[Assistant] Like, one team was playing all out to stop something other than Jalen Hurts. And then the other team was playing all out to stop the one guy.


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[Assistant] And his effect there. So that's where, yeaah, I don't agree with that. When you just say that out loud, biggest blunder of the game,


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[Assistant] That's insane. I just can't- I gotta say that. I got mad res- I know how people view me in this. I got mad respect for what Jalen Hurst has done. Mad. Respect. I'm more annoyed with like, the narrative around it right now. Where I just like, to your point, other people


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[Assistant] His receivers wouldn't be playing on the Eagles. I mean, they wouldn't be playing. Right? I mean, come on. Kelsey would be.


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[Assistant] But that's it. They'd go, oh, okay, we'll go Kelsey Goddard, AJ Brown, and Devonte Smith. There's our crew. That's right. That's where people are also, not only the optics of the fumble and the 10 point lead loss,


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[Assistant] quarterbacking the, the clearly the better team there and doing that with the weapons and a lot of things that benefited you.


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[Assistant] And so then you can't tell me that that performance was better than the guy in red. I'm just sorry.


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[Assistant] Well, he threw it like 50 yards or 40 yards. He had to throw it 70, which would have been interesting to see if he could have done it.


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[Assistant] He, he stepped on Kelsey's foot. I thought the grass slipped.


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[Assistant] But he stepped on Jason Kelsey's right foot. Oh wow. That's where his front foot, as he was gearing up, that's where he stepped, and it was right on Kelsey's foot, and it slipped, and he lost it. I think he would have got it- I know, I saw some of those TikTok videos and stuff my son showed me, uh, and that's where, yea, the internet's annoying, cause you're like, that's not what-


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[Assistant] That's normal process for young quarterbacks. Tom Brady won the Super Bowl against the Rams and they went back and watched the game and said, duh, Tom, we gotta get better at this next year, right? I mean, so again, it's not, I'm just talking about football here before everybody gets personal and gets their...


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[Assistant] They go for the kill, you know. It's, it's, again, this is where I think, you know, Gannon is a great, or should prove to me that he's a great coach that can


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[Assistant] Every quarterback dropped back and throw against the simplest coverages ever and go 28 for 32, right? And that's what we talked about. That has to change. It changed. And changed in a big way. And he's, you know, like,


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[Assistant] He, he knows, hey they have a different playbook and things they want to do, so I want to play these defenses. Oh wait, somebody motioned to the other side and then we have two receivers to the right and two receivers to the left? Wait, well that's a different part of their playbook. So he wants to get, hey defense, check to these coverages. Cause they're gonna go to a different group of plays now, right?


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[Assistant] So he's kinda going for like, hey, we're gonna squash you no matter what you do.


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[Assistant] He found Mr. Bye Week, Andy Reed and company and their ability to break down and their ability to think outside the box, you know, to where


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[Assistant] And, uh, that's where I think they noticed the things I saw in film. There's too many plays where Eagles defenders are talking to each other. I'd watch throughout the year and you'd go, wait, they're snapping the ball and you guys are still trying to figure out how to cover this bunch set or whatever. And, uh, of course that came in very handy throughout the football game.


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[Assistant] It just, it gave them a little bit of a advantage against a team that had forward the fast, five fastest guys on the field, right? And they probably had more than that, really, right? Those were just ball carriers. Those were just ball carriers, you know.


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[Assistant] But it just gave them a little like, hey, there's TJ Edwards. He just slid a little to the left. Oh, now he's just a little late getting to that C gap, right? Whatever. It just gave them that little bit of, or it got them communicating. Right? And now here, this is where, you know, so,


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[Assistant] Especially early on. They were like, well damn, we can't rush five because it's one less guy in coverage. Or if he finds a way to sneak through one of the gaps like he did at the end of the game, now we have one less guy to rally and tackle him. So they had to do, they had to change the way they played.


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[Assistant] That's the Mahomes factor. Why did the Chiefs run game work? Cause they got the Eagles out of these five man fronts and said, no, you're going to play coverage cause you're worried about Mahomes. So you're going to play, and thank God Andy Reed and Bianna Mee.


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[Assistant] That was the adjustment they made in the second half. Here's the other Mahomes factor. The Eagles, right, who got away with holding in this game more than just the last play where they didn't get away with. There was a few plays.


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[Assistant] You know, we saw the Chiefs first drive right down the field score, right? Second drive, right down the field. You know what happened after those two drives? The Eagles said,


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[Assistant] Uhm, we can't play zone again for the rest of the game because he's just gonna pick us apart.


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[Assistant] We can't quite get around him quick enough. He's moving, getting the ball out of his hands. And literally, I would bet you after that first two drives, there was only a handful of snaps that zoned the rest of the game because they just went, he's gonna, he's gonna pick us apart. Right? And so those are the Mahomes factor. Let alone like,


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[Assistant] Third down completion of Travis Kelsey in the third quarter. I mean, he's being hit in the head, grabbed on the shoulder, hit in the head again, throws it sidearm as he's an inch off the ground, first down. Few plays later, pressure, run to the right, semi no look, in cut to Noah Gray, first down.


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[Assistant] So, the stats, don't look at the stats. The moments, the plays, the second half, Mahomes was flawless. And like I told you,


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[Assistant] Other than the Marques Valdez, Scanling fade down the left sideline from the slot, where Greg Olson was good, he pointed out, like, I think he should have got wider, he should have got wider, but I would have said, and I think he probably would have said, he watches the film, he goes, uh, I had


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[Assistant] Smith Schuster underneath or like the 12 yard out, I should have thrown that. I got greedy there. That was, that was 2020 Super Bowl Bucks Mahomes. Right there, going greedy, going, oh I'm getting impatient, I want the play. Right?


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[Assistant] So that was, that was the literally the only negative play of the football game. There was no other play that you could have looked at and go, oh, he should have hit this. He should have read that. This guy was open. There was no throw that you could have gone, oh, if he just threw this a little bit better, he would have had that.


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[Assistant] He, for what was presented to him, almost played perfect. And that's, again, why he's the MVP. And don't always look at stats, everybody. I know he got two easy touchdown passes. I get it. Why'd the freak open?


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[Assistant] Okay. Yeah, it was good game planning, whatever. Okay. Again, though.


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[Assistant] You know, these things are what they are because also of him and the offense they run and they send these people all over the place and throw it deep and do it and he's got a quick release and sidearm and all that. So that's what you're worried about stopping. And that's where the Eagles overplayed their hand and the Chiefs had a few curveballs for them.


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[Assistant] There was some wide open. There was some wide open, sure. Kelsey's early in the game, like I said, those were the zone coverages and that stuff, where it was just like, yeah, he was going to tear that apart, no doubt about it. Yeah. You know, there weren't a whole lot of tight window throws for either quarterback. I can't say there was a ton. You're right. You know, but, but see, this is to where when my home's


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[Assistant] The ability and the pace on the football makes it look like that. Like he throws a, uh, a six yard out route at the end of the game on the last drive. You might remember all the way, he's on the left hash, he throws it to the right sideline, right?


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[Assistant] He throws the ball 105 miles per hour, like on film, the camera can't keep up with the ball. It loses the ball for a minute. So you just, now it's like, oh, Juju's got the ball and he's running upfield, right? They couldn't even stay with it. So don't, don't, when people look at stuff like that, you gotta like take that into account a little bit as well. I mean,


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[Assistant] Kelsey was not wide open on his first touchdown on the 18 yard pass, right? Yea, what happened there? They ran...


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[Assistant] Again, knowing the Eagles are gonna go for the kill, they made it look like, hey, we're gonna run our normal Kelsey option route and he's gonna come up and break out at five yards and we're gonna hit him and we're gonna first down. That's what we do all year. They knew the Eagles would be all over it.


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[Assistant] So he faked that little option round and turned up the sideline. You know, Epps slipped just a little bit, and that created the separation. I would say that was not wide open. No. But hey, he threw a ball on the left sideline to Juju Smith-Schuster, where he faked the little screen and then threw it up there. Well, yeaah. It's good play design. But his ability to, again,


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[Assistant] Just step on the gas pedal and rifle those balls in there. Right. You know, or like, like I said, getting tackled, getting hit in the head twice, throwing the ball to Travis Kelsey on the third down or two plays later.


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[Assistant] You know, again, having to squeeze through the pocket and then throw the ball on a 14 yard in cut versus man to man coverage and just make it look like it's nothing.


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[Assistant] Again, you're, you're, you're, you're not doing justice to the guy and what he's doing on the football field. But yes, was this the game where he threw the most tight window throws I've ever seen to make? No, absolutely not. I, I, I understand that, but I don't think that's totally right. What we're saying there.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm trying to say. Again, there's other quarterbacks that make those throws and a viewer would have gone, well, that was tight. And I want to go, no, you know, not for a strong arm quarterback. He gave him the extra second to make it look open and now make a play after the catch.


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[Assistant] Right, well we had the third, the three and out, I think, when the game was, uhm, was it 14 all or 21-14? He's got Juju Smith-Schuster going across the middle of the field, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, and to me, looks like he throws the ball right on the money.


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[Assistant] As Juju Smith Schuster is coming out of his break on the under route, he gets totally grabbed and spinned.


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[Assistant] But they didn't call it. You know, and again, he didn't complain. He kind of like, like after the ball hit the ground, he turned around at the rest and was like,


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[Assistant] Yeah. But that, that was it, and they ran off the field. But yeah, that was certainly a moment. There was another curl route or two where I went, ooh, I think my homies wants to throw to this guy, but he's being pulled out of his curl route, you know. But again-


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[Assistant] That's not true. That's not true. That's not fair. Uh, it's not. And, you know, and again, I understand people are going to sit there and look at this and go, yeaah, it's an underwhelming


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[Assistant] Statistical performance to win the Super Bowl or win the Super Bowl MVP. I don't disagree with that. I don't.


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[Assistant] We've had worst Super Bowl performances win an MVP. And what I would also say to that, again, is one, I don't think there's anybody, like if Kaderis Tony got one more touchdown, maybe he gets the MVP.


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[Assistant] One guy was the quarterback of the lesser team and that team played all to stop him. And they had a 10 point lead.


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[Assistant] See, they use something that we talk about all the time, right? Checks and balances, basically. Or, you know, like you said on Monday, they know that we know that we know, right? So, and this is something that, you know, again, they're, they're, them and McVeigh are the,


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[Assistant] They're the inventors of the jet sweep and the speed sweep or the little shovel pass as the guy flies around, you know, and goes on the reverse, whatever. So that's been a part of their offense. So the Eagles are studying that. They were ready for it.


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[Assistant] But they knew they'd be ready for it, just like that Kelsey five yard out and out and up for the first touchdown.


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[Assistant] And, yeaah, so they used really one of the Eagles' great strengths against them. You know, it was, it was like, they used it, yeaah, yeaah, it was the little gift and the curse that way. Uhm, and that, that was pretty awesome. And then, hey, to the old line point too. Yeaah. Like, yeaah. I mean,


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[Assistant] You said it right, Reed, Bianna, great job even saying patience with the run, knowing like, we gotta do this, we can't, we're not gonna win the game unless we do this.


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[Assistant] They did, because they just went, wait, if they're going to play these two deep defenses and just play pass, pass, pass, right? The Mahomes factor again.


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[Assistant] He went, okay, I got a, I got some old linemen here that can move some people. We're gonna run it. And yea, some of the biggest plays of that drive were the run game. And then like we talked about, the third down, hit in the head, throw to Kelsey, the scramble outside the pocket, throw it. That was also the scramble, right? You know? Again, Jalen Hurts ran the ball great.


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[Assistant] Gosh, biggest run of the game was the run at the end of the game by number 15. I'd just like to explain that to everybody. And that was another big run to get them down to the four or five yard line. And even before that you thought Patrick was moving very well in the pocket to avoid some of that rush. He was, there was a little more pressure on him than I thought watching back on TV. Interesting, okay. Again, it wasn't like, oh my gosh, the


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[Assistant] There was more than you think. The grass hurt the eagles more than it did the chiefs.


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[Assistant] Why was that? They're the four or five carriers. They're the faster team. They were the more explosive team. So if the Eagles want to like blame on any conspiracies, blame the NFL, maybe they made the grass that slow them down, make the game more even. You know, they were the most vocal.


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[Assistant] There's a few plays where you go, ooh, Josh Sweat and Hasan Reddick.


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[Assistant] Right? So, that's, that's stunk for them. That did. But yes, that was one thing that jumped out a little bit watching the game. Still a great game by that offensive line. And all of that. But he made a few more plays and throws and moves under pressure than, than I remembered. And uhm, but yea, the running game and those


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[Assistant] They beat Hargrave and Jordan Davis a lot when it came to the running game. When they ran up the middle, man, they moved those two.


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[Assistant] I think he's one of the more underrated linebackers in football. I think he's gonna get a like a payday to somebody we just showed him on the free agent list, right? Like he's gonna get a payday from somebody where I think people are gonna go, whoa, I can't believe he's making that kind of money. And I'm gonna be like, well,


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[Assistant] You know, kinda got overshadowed by the rest of the stars on their football team. To me, he's like the perfect modern day linebacker. He's a lot like a Nick Bolden, maybe not quite as stout and as good of a run game tackler as Bolden.


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[Assistant] The guy that everybody kinda wants at linebacker in the NFL because he's good in the run game, he's good sideline to sideline, he's really good in the pass game, right? And that's where...


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[Assistant] He might be one of those guys that they might have a hard time keeping. I wouldn't be shocked.


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[Assistant] Really the whole year from the Chiefs, but maybe more of that in this game, and specifically again, to I think the two touchdowns we talked about, right?


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[Assistant] The Kelsey, the Kelsey pattern, even early in the game, the first Kelsey big, uh, no, it was the second big Kelsey catch, right? The Kelsey, the first one was the deep crosser. The second one was,


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[Assistant] Hey, you're going to run that deep cross again. And then he put on the brakes and came back out, right? So that's where like, cause they called that play going, Hey, they're ready for him to cross. Now they saw it. And even on the first one, they were kind of ready for it. They were just a little late to react.


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[Assistant] Gannon will be the bigger adjustment on the defensive side, just because yeaah, you got Seriotti there. Where he's like, okay, I taught Shane Psych and some of this stuff. I mean, this is, we're in this together. So, I don't think that'll be a...


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[Assistant] You know, a drop that way. Here's where his contract and them having the same team can be a part of the problem here, and that's not his fault, right? I mean, it's on them to figure this out. He deserves to get paid. But also, uhm, as we always discuss, like the Chiefs learned,


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[Assistant] The whole league's gonna study the Eagles this offseason. The whole league.


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[Assistant] Offense and defense. Cause offenses are going to go, what can we steal from them and put in our offense, right? I mean, even with guys like Joe Burrow, they're going to be like, we can steal some of this stuff. Joe can run and throw a screen here and you know, we can add this into our repertoire of stuff we normally do. And then defenses are going to go deep dive into the Eagles.


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[Assistant] Cause they're a team again, especially in the NFC if they're on your schedule, where everyone's gonna go, wait, even if they lose a few players, it's still gonna be the best roster in football or one of the best and they're gonna be really damn good. And we gotta figure out how we're gonna defend this. And I think, uh, you know, again,


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[Assistant] It's copycat league, some of what the 49ers did, some of what the Chiefs did in this football game. You know, I think you'll see teams dabble in that stuff a little bit.


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[Assistant] I do. I think this is the year it ends. One, let me just say this. Who else did it? Who else did it though?


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[Assistant] There was a lot of teams that did it. They did? Yeaah, they did. Just not to their extent. You know, it became a staple for them. You know, and again, that's where like,


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, they don't need the guys in the back to push. They're really not helping. It doesn't matter, right? They could do it the old traditional way, right? You know, but that's also another part of like, I think people are overrating the Jalen Hurst performance a little to go back to that too. Alright, I know I'm, yep, one more time here. But, but it's just like,


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[Assistant] Three rushing touchdowns, and you know, the way everybody talks about it, I expect me to turn the game on, and it was like three Michael Vick runs.


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[Assistant] It was a quarterback sneak from the half yard line.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right, but I just don't know, we're gonna give them MVP greatest performance we've ever seen, cause the three rushing touchdowns where I go, okay.


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[Assistant] The two-point conversion was awesome. We already said that. Look, everybody's sensitive because everybody here in NBC's scared I'm going to say something that's going to get me in trouble with Jalen Hurts. So they're ready. We know. It was great.


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[Assistant] But the two quarterbacks thinks every quarterback in football could have done that. And so we can't just go, oh, three rushing touchdowns, greatest performance ever in Super Bowl history. Like, come on, stop. It's going overboard. So what's the rule going to be? I think they're going to say no pushing in the back. No assisting the runner. Yea, right. I think you also got to worry about


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[Assistant] You know, like the Ravens did it in the fumble with Tyler Hundley, remember, and that's what we talked about. Because he jumped and we were like, wait, there was people pushing, right? You're not supposed to do it there. And that's why he kind of went straight up in the air.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think it's, it'll probably even become a player safety issue. I think they're going to worry about like the, how they worry about the center, the snapper on the field goal and stuff like that. I think you're going to have to worry about that with like,


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[Assistant] He's got a thousand pounds pushing him here. Like this is not right. He's going to break his leg. His legs are going to crumble these guys. It's not, you know,


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[Assistant] There's six guys within three feet of each other and they're all pushing forward. I think that's where it becomes.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of potential for disaster. Right. Exactly. And even think about being those D tackles. Think about being them where they're going, wait, wait. Okay. Kelsey. I'm going to have Kelsey, uh, seo, seo Molo and Lander Dickerson


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[Assistant] All smushing me with Jalen Hurts pushing them and got her in a running back pushing him. Yeaah. Right? That's, that, that, that to me, I think they gotta probably protect the DeTacos a little bit in that department. Alright, we'll see if they do that. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] This is good, right? Yea, anything over nine and a half is, is, you're okay. Right. That's usually. But I think there's some quarterbacks dispelling all that crap anyways right now. Well, quarterbacks are doing this out there right now, right? They're stretching them out. Stretch your fingers out a little bit. I used to grab the basketball. I'd be sitting at this time of the year. I'd be watching TV.


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[Assistant] I am, I don't know. It's a good question. You're right. I don't know. I don't know what the, what the...


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[Assistant] It's a grown man sport and you gotta have a grown man ball, I guess. I guess is the way I look at it. You know, I do look, I give you have a ball that's, you know, any smaller, like guys like


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[Assistant] Mahomes just threw its sidearm across the field 65 yards on the money. Cause they're gonna be able to manipulate it more. That's where, again, that's where the


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[Assistant] I messed around with this for a little bit, but this was like only to have catches, you couldn't play a game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I definitely had some, yea, 75, 76 I think was my longest throw, but that was


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I had some like throws and practice down in Tampa where I threw at 74-78. I still remember one of my favorite moments ever. I was doing scout team. I was having to be Michael Vick, right? Something wrong with that picture, right? I was lefty. It was the only thing we had in common, right? But I can still remember


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[Assistant] In that scout team, and they were like, be crazy. They were like, move around, do whatever, throw lasers here and there, so I was like,


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[Assistant] This is awesome. I'm just going to run around and be crazy. And I launched the pass and practice and I'm watching the film back because I like to watch my scout teams. Did I keep, you know, good mechanics when I threw the ball and I remember throwing it and like seeing on the practice on Brad Johnson was way down the field and he was counting.


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[Assistant] And he was like shaking his head because yeaah, I had launched one. I had a pretty good arm. I might not have been worth a damn, but I certainly could throw it with the best of them.


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[Assistant] I had to tell him I played quarterback. Another all time moment. I, I was my boss in New England was George Godsey, who was the tight ends coaches, right? He was kind of the guy that was in charge of making sure I did things the right way. A lot of times. So in training camp,


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[Assistant] They, you know, pre-practice or before you got together as a team, players are doing individual drills. I had to throw balls to the tight ends. I would help them out. Maybe hold the bag during a blocking drill, right? Do all that.


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[Assistant] And I'm sitting there throwing the Gronk one day and yeah, I'm throwing it pretty good, right? I'm throwing spirals. It's a nice hot day. I'm loving it. I'm like, damn, I'm out of the dungeon. I'm not typing in shit to the computer. And you know, I throw a few nice little spirals and rockets at his face and he's catching them and damn, you, you throw the ball pretty good Sims. You throw the ball pretty good. I go,


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[Assistant] You played in the NFL? I had no idea. And I was like, you know, my dad's Phil Simms too, right? Oh, that's right. I mean, literally, literally like did not connect him.


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[Assistant] Where it was, hey we're trying to run in here and we can't because he's holding his ground against a double team or pushed a guy back and now the running back's kind of, oh wait there's nowhere to go, wait I want to bounce outside, oh this is where Spag's guy blitzing off the edge came in, right? It was a great


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[Assistant] Relationship of team and coaching and everybody doing their job even though it might not statistically show up or you become a superstar that way. And, you know, that's what's awesome about the Super Bowl is it's a time where you see grown men get called out where they're like, you want to be a champ? You want that big ring?


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[Assistant] We got a problem here. This Eagles team is good. Can you guys rise to the occasion here and do something? And you know, that's what's awesome about the NFL.


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[Assistant] He played really damn good. And this is not his cup of tea or his kind of game either. He wants it to be more of like a pass rushing, let me just run off the edge. I mean he had to worry about run game stuff. But he's, that's where he's great. He's, he is, he's good in both departments.


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[Assistant] Now him and Carlos Dunlap, I thought both had really good games on the edge, you know. Their ability, their power for a defense that ends is, you know, what, what kind of an under-talk


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[Assistant] You know, value on that football team. And to your point with that drive and that play to Frank Clark and all that, holding them to the field goal in the 17 play drive. Did you see what AJ Brown said yesterday about that?


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[Assistant] He just thought that he just, when they kicked the field goal, he goes, that was when he thought we might, we could lose this game. What was it, fourth and six? It was fourth and six. So that's a hard one. That is a hard one. I mean, again, that's, I'm not going to, like, I feel like people are trying to fault Nick Sirianni. I'm not going to fault Nick Sirianni there.


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[Assistant] It's almost like one of those where if you're at the 40 or 45. You might go there because you're in no man's land. But here it's guaranteed three points. Guaranteed three, exactly right. Exactly. So I, I, I definitely don't fault them there. And then I've even seen people at the end of the game when, or the one, the next series where they went three and out and punted.


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[Assistant] You're in your own territory, it's fourth and three, like...


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[Assistant] But now we're gonna second guess him this way too. Right? I mean, you know, he knew he had the better team. We were all watching knowing they had the better team. He went up 27-21 thinking, hey, we're just gonna keep leaning on him.


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[Assistant] I hope I'm right. And then Trevor, and then Will Edwards.


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[Assistant] Alright, just wanted to give you guys all love. Way to go, way to give us all the answer keys. You are officially one of the homiest of the homies.


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[Assistant] How do you do that Pete? What do you do with that? Valid, valid question. You wait till you get home and then you put it on the computer and then take your phone out again and do it again.


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[Assistant] It never ends. We got draft. We got free agency. We're not going anywhere, whether you like it or not. All right. But we are going to go somewhere next week. I will not be here. I'm taking a week off. That's right. That's right. Vacation time. I'm headed to the Caribbean on Sunday for a few days. I am. I'm excited about that.


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[Assistant] Going to take a little break, but we're going to play, you know, some of our interviews and things we got from the, uh, Super Bowl week. Had a lot of things go on there. We had a lot of fun with guys and I don't think it got its, you know, due publicity some of the conversations. So you'll be able to listen to some of that stuff next week and then we'll be back in the fold the week after that.


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[Assistant] He was enjoying himself so much. I think we only got to answer three questions. He just kept talking and talking, but he's amazing. He was. Micah Parsons and I, we bonded over the Philly fans hating us more than any two people in the world. Uh, got on with my boy, Brandon Marshall, had some good conversations with him.


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[Assistant] So, uh, yeah, it was a good week all together, but you know, Justin Jefferson, C.D. Lamb, T. Higgins, we had a lot of ballers there. George Kittle, you'll see some of that, uh, uh, next week's podcast, so.


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[Assistant] Three pods next week with all that stuff. Everybody enjoy.


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[Assistant] Don't cry too hard that I'm gone for a week or Ahmed's gone for a week. We'll be back. Yeah. Okay. And we'll be diving right into football.


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[Assistant] Continue that and we'll break down everything that's going on in the NFL. Ahmed, you're the man. Couldn't do it without you.


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[Assistant] Thanks for watching, homies. Hit subscribe to see all my Unbuttoned videos. You get to see me, Ahmed Fareed, all the big player breakdowns, game breakdowns, player interviews, and my film analysis. So please subscribe. Chris Sims, Unbuttoned. Peace out.


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[Assistant] It's so great. So you have a history with Connor and he has been working a little bit here with Matthew Barry and some of the fantasy stuff and was at the Combine with you. Uh, and yeah, it was back at Bleacher Report, but has been following these prospects in the draft and for many, many years.


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[Assistant] Has a wealth of knowledge. And so I think, you know, throughout this draft season, I think we're going to have Connor, I don't know what his contract says, if he has days or whatever, but we're going to lean on, we're going to lean on, we're going to lean on, no doubt.


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[Assistant] Possibilities are in the NFL. So one thing, and we're going to talk mostly combine in this one after we go through the big news, but I just want it off the top here. Was there anything at the combine that kind of jumped out at you, a player, you talked to a lot of the edge guys because you were there when they were working out. You talked to Will Anderson, Tyree Wilson, a couple of the top edge guys out there.


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[Assistant] I don't know, not even with the edge guys, was there anything that just kinda stuck out to you about being at the Combine?


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[Assistant] How many head coaches and people in the front office you did talk to on the days that you were there. We got them all for the most part. You really did. We did. And part of me, you know, we talked about this before.


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[Assistant] Uh, is the valuable for the coaches to be there? McVeigh hasn't been there, LeFleur this year not there. And I kinda see what they're saying and they got more important work to do and you can watch it on TV like a lot of other people do. But at the same time when I saw you interviewing all those people and everyone was in the same spot at the same time, I was like that is kinda cool too.


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[Assistant] The quarterback carousel. Yeaah. Maybe at least the first, uh, the first horse, the first pony. Yeaah. In that carousel. Right. Is landing. Yeaah. If that's a thing that carousels do and ponies do. I like it. It's kind of a simsism. You kind of like combined like three things there and made it work. I like it. I started going, I didn't know where I was going. Alright, we need this, we need the sound I think. Breaking news.


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[Assistant] Multiple reports out there. The Saints are closing in on a deal with quarterback Derek Carr. We'll give some credit to Mike Garofalo for the NFL Network, but I think it's uh, multiple reports out there. It seems as though


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[Assistant] The landing spot for Derek Carr is not going to be the New York Jets. It is going to be the New Orleans Saints. Your instant reaction. Oh, well, it fits. It does.


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[Assistant] Well, much to talk about there as the off-season goes on, but maybe these quarterback needy teams can just get Lamar Jackson, right? Because some of the franchise-tag guys we're talking about, it seems as though that, uh, no-brainer that he would be franchise-tagged if they can't figure out a deal here, but that situation has been so strange, Chris, for so long now, that I don't think...


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[Assistant] A divorce completely is off the board in this situation.


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[Assistant] Uhm, what, what do you think about Lamar here? We have a question in from one of our homies out there, Masterclass FC. Which tag would you give Lamar? Risk giving him the non-exclusive tag with the hope that nobody offers him a fully guaranteed deal? Yeah, I'm like, what are the Ravens thinking? What is Lamar thinking right now?


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[Assistant] What was that question to you? I mean, NBC is paying the NFL a billion dollars a year. I feel like everyone's got the money. So is it like money really an object? Obviously it's what you can't do with your roster, right? In the salary cap world. And so that's for people smarter than me, but I don't know. Like I think that this situation defies logic, right? It's one of those situations where


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[Assistant] Does Lamar even want to be there anymore? Is he going to accept a franchise tag and show up for it? Uhm, where would he want to go? It's one of those situations, I almost feel like it's impossible to predict how this is all going to go.


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[Assistant] And then you go from there. And, and just because I, I don't totally know. So those first round picks, would those be picks from the signing team that they would have to give up? So that depresses his market right there. So that's not a true free market either. So Lamar would get more if not for that compensation tagged onto him. So Lamar would just say, well, it's depressing my market.


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[Assistant] How much is he worth? That is the question that is still being debated with Lamar Jackson, also being debated with Giants quarterback Daniel Jones. He and his guys think it's 45 million.


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[Assistant] The Giants think it's less than that. Who knows exactly how much less. But you had an interesting


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[Assistant] The homies have chimed in. 60% say Kirk Cousins, so they were listening when I put Kirk on my all under-talked-about team. Sure. Uh, and think that he doesn't get the respect that he deserves. I believe your answer, and I'm gonna paraphrase, and forgive me if I'm mischaracterizing it, was that both teams should say no, because both teams might be better with the guy they currently have.


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[Assistant] No chance to do anything. I love that, that it bothers you that people are saying what you're saying but you're like, you're not expressing it enough. Enough, well no, not enough, because it became


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[Assistant] Mahomes is now fifth in average per year on his contract.


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[Assistant] He said he might take one of those team friendly deals. I thought this was a really interesting quote. I love this quote actually. He said basically he'd be okay to play on the franchise tag but only if the team loaded up.


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[Assistant] Uh, at all the other positions and added players around him. He goes, quote, if you want me to come back as the hero, you better pay me like a hero. Yeah. Yeah. It's, um.


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[Assistant] Uh, you talked to Josh McDaniels at the Combine. Yea. It was actually at the Super Bowl that you talked to Josh Jacobs, but Josh McDaniels he was raving about. Yes.


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[Assistant] Uh, quick hitters, another running back, franchise tag possibility, perhaps long term deal, who knows? Cowboys running back Tony Pollard.


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[Assistant] Usually broken bones are better than ligament tears and strains and all that stuff.


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[Assistant] He's a, he's a specimen. Alright, we'll see how that all plays out here in the next couple days. This is a really interesting time. We got free agency coming up. We'll talk about that, I think next week, quite a bit, um, obviously. Uh, but now let's move on. Transition here, Connor's coming on set here in just a bit, but uh, first I just want a couple big thoughts, headline thoughts for you. You were there, you were there as a player in 2003.


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[Assistant] That was the beginning, as I said, of the next-gen stats era.


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[Assistant] So you were clocked with lasers, probably. I was, right? Accurate reading. Yes. Uhm, what do you think has changed most in 20 years since you were there as a player? It's just become...


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[Assistant] Alright, so you talked to a bunch of the edge guys. Was there one that stood out from the conversations that you had?


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[Assistant] Talk long enough. Now it is time to bring on our guest for the first time, Reuniting Chris.


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[Assistant] With the great Connor Rogers who is now a full-time employee of NBC Sports. Uh, he has his draft rankings out there that we are showing on the screen. So while we show these draft rankings,


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[Assistant] Chris is waving over Connor right now. So if you're watching on YouTube or Peacock, you get to preview the top 10. We'll flip over to the next 10 after this. Behind the scenes too, I'm letting you know.


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[Assistant] Morgan is coming in here. She's putting a microphone down. So this is all happening in real time. Matt Casey is adjusting your IFB cord. So this is all things that are supposed to be happening behind the scenes that for some reason I am just bringing attention to now, uh, in front of the scenes.


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[Assistant] Uh, but here's the top 10. You got Jalen Carter there, the Georgia D lineman obviously in the news for all the wrong reasons about that first day of the combine. We'll get into that. Will Anderson, the guy that you liked, Chris is number two. So Bryce Young, the quarterback is, uh, is number three. Kind of just your, your, uh, your take of Connor's top 10 here.


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[Assistant] Alright, and here he is in the flesh, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, kid. Connor Rogers is back with, with Chris Sims, uh, who I guess, from what I heard, on the first day for you at Bleacher Report, Chris was there. He was one of the first employees you met.


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[Assistant] Do you think teams are going to be more aggressive, maybe with some of these corners, especially if they like them, because of the early success that we have seen with Sauce, with guys like Cassante Samuel, maybe the last couple years, Patrick Sertan. Yeah. Certainly. Do you think teams just feel better about taking some of these guys earlier?


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay. All right, that's interesting. Alabama guy, Brian Branch, in case some of the homies out there aren't as familiar. Porter's a Penn State guy, Witherspoon, Illinois. Right. So as we, as we learn. Gonzalez, Oregon. Gonzalez, Oregon, as we learn some of these guys. All right.


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[Assistant] Alright, if we're going off traits then, as we transition to quarterbacks, who do you think, when Chris looks at all the tape, he looks at the combine, who do you think Chris is going to have number one in his quarterback rankings?


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[Assistant] So what I'm hearing is you are wondering how much Chris will fall in love with the potential of a guy like Richardson over what we know about Stroud. That's the question for the Chris Sims Top.


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[Assistant] You think he hurt himself, helped himself, made no difference by not participating at the Combine?


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[Assistant] For me, I was going to say, for me, he might end up being the third quarterback taken, right? By not participating. But even if he had participated, it's not like his traits are what make him stand out, right? I mean throwing to wide open receivers.


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[Assistant] It was smart. I understand him doing that all the way. All right. As we learn more and more about these quarterbacks, including their first names sometimes, you know, this is going to make it more difficult because I think we have a soundbite from Anthony Richardson in talking about some of the comparisons of other quarterbacks from NFL's past. Do we have that Pete and Kristen?


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[Assistant] I just a little bit of Lamar and a little bit of Cam. Just the two greatest runners I've ever seen at quarterback. Take the best from Lamar, take the best from Cam, and then you have me. I think we have their combine results here too, but, I mean, we've already talked about it here, but just physically, it seems like he...


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[Assistant] Let's start, let's start with for the first time. Right. Connor gets to hear this song with us. We're going to give out Big Bud Awards for the Combine. Of course we are. Oh baby.


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[Assistant] Alright, it's just like you instantly like that guy. And you can see how he can be a leader.


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[Assistant] And kind of, and Nick Saban loved him at Alabama so.


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[Assistant] I was like let's give him the big butt. His legs and butt are amazing. Okay.


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[Assistant] Dang a V on Twitter says with the issues around Jalen Carter, like you mentioned, is Tyree Wilson going to be the first defensive player taken in the draft, specifically at number three to the Cardinals. So Tyree Smith, Texas Tech projected top 10, but what about first defensive player?


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[Assistant] Now I thought about maybe giving the Big Butt Award to the Georgia Edge guy, Nolan Smith, for what he did in the 40, what was it, 439? That's right.


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[Assistant] Couldn't have gotten much more from the combine for my Defensive Tackle Big Butt award winner from Pittsburgh in the mold of Aaron Donald. A lot of comparisons now.


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[Assistant] Uh, collegiacancy? Collegias. That's how I had it. I hope I'm not wrong. I'm not sure if I'm right either, but we'll learn as we go. Uh, but he does have a big butt award here because his 40 yard dash was 4.67. That was a combined record.


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[Assistant] For a defensive tackle. Aaron Donalds was 4.68 back in 2014. So there you see, uh, the comparison size wise. Now I don't think they're.


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[Assistant] You know, hand size. Okay, so Kancy's hands are smaller. So I gotta knock him down a couple of times. Knock him down a run. What do you mean no one cares?


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[Assistant] It was interesting in the interview with him, I'm a Syracuse guy, I went to Syracuse and you asked him, like, who gave you trouble? And he named a Syracuse running back and a Syracuse offensive lineman. Bergeron would be the lineman. And I was like, ooh, I was like, we weren't that great this year. I was like, that's almost a red flag.


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[Assistant] We're like Georgia defensive players, we're everywhere in the NFL. Since we're talking about running backs, we should talk about the Texas guy, Bree John Robinson. What'd you think of him?


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[Assistant] But he's been talked about, I mean, even though, I mean, all these draft guys, caveat every time, like, I know, I know running backs aren't taken high in the first round, but we still think he's a top five guy.


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[Assistant] Sounds like it. And they could all go in the first round from what it sounds like. Pretty much. First round talent. First round talent. Uh, this is great because you're reducing the amount of time that Chris has to think about some of this stuff. It's just like, alright, I'm gonna defer to Connor.


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[Assistant] Alright, as Chris likes to say, let's end with this one right here, our Bet MGM Parley Preview.


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[Assistant] They got the odds out there currently updated after the Combine of who will go number one. So I guess we have the odds before and now after the Combine. So before the Combine, Bryce Young was the favorite, minus 120. And now he's become more of a favorite after the Combine. That surprises me. I'm surprised by that.


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[Assistant] That's not the obvious. Yea, his odds went from plus 275 to plus 400, so they got worse. Now, Anthony Richardson from Florida went from plus 4,000 to plus 500, now he is the third most likely choice. That's amazing.


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[Assistant] You have to really fall in love with a guy to move up to number one, it seems like. And one guy has to separate himself from everyone else. And it seems like after this combine, I don't think we three here at the table know which one that guy is that is separating himself.


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[Assistant] This is what we do at the end. We clap it up. Good job everyone. Well done.


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[Assistant] It looks like the quarterback carousel. Yeaah. Maybe at least the first, uh, the first horse, the first pony is landing.


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[Assistant] I kinda like glossed over that a little bit, but this is the first time we've ever done it live. So if you're listening to the audio version of this, nothing is different. You're still listening to a recording. So we didn't just wait for you to hit play on your podcast player and go. So it's the same. If you're watching on Peacock, same. But if you're watching on YouTube,


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[Assistant] We're in free agency right now. The tampering window is officially


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[Assistant] Once roll in, Morgan will peruse through them, pick some of the best ones out there and we'll read those and Pete will do the same, but let's hit some of the big news and start with


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[Assistant] This just out just a little while ago. Three year deal with the Bears is what is being reported here. And TJ Edwards was one of the players. You go, watch out. When free agency opens, he's going to get more money than people think. And he's going to be one of those names to be like, TJ Edwards, I really talked about TJ Edwards or thought about him. You like what you saw from TJ Edwards.


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[Assistant] Well, this is what I'm gonna say, and the Eagles fans will join me in this, is that they have a lot of free agents, and anyone who gets away are guys that they let get away. You know what I mean? Sure. They know you can't re-sign them all, you can't keep them all, but there's gonna be this mantra for maybe Eagles fans, and who knows, maybe it's not wrong.


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[Assistant] Archcreep in our YouTube live chat says, Edwards has the highest grade of all linebackers since he took over as a three down player, season before last. So he, much like you, is all on board. TJ Edwards.


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[Assistant] I do want to get into the Bears at some point. Ayush Bodhi, Bodhich, Bodhigi on our live chat says, which teams do you think have the biggest turnarounds from free agency? So, I mean, it seems like the Bears are active both in the trade market and free agency. They might be number one.


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[Assistant] Let's go through some quick hitters here and some thunder round here. We're going to talk about these players. We will come back and talk about them again, if it warrants. So this, this pod's going to be, there's not a whole lot of rhyme or reason to it. We're just going to hit stuff. Jason Kelsey coming back to the Eagles for his 13th season. He tweeted about it.


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[Assistant] Uh, Howie Roseman is hyped about Jason Kelsey's return, so I think we have a couple elements here. Here's the tweet from Kelsey.


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[Assistant] The Broncos. According to reports, they're signing former Raiders quarterback Jarrett Stidham to a two-year deal. Now, he was a guy that, I mean, you know Josh McDaniels very well. It seemed like Josh really liked Jarrett Stidham, and that was the reason they benched Derek Carr the last couple weeks of the regular season to see what they had in Jarrett Stidham, and he was pretty good. Played okay.


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[Assistant] And the Raiders, if you're, if you're Josh McDaniels, you want that quarterback that just runs your offense, right? Although that is what Kyle Shanahan also wants. And he wants to move on from Jimmy Garoppolo. So, so who knows? Maybe it's not quite what you think you're getting if you're Josh McDaniels.


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[Assistant] But yea, it seems like it would work, if it worked in San Francisco, if it worked in San Francisco with the weapons they had, which are very good, they're also good in Las Vegas and it should offensively work. Defensively is where they gotta figure some things out. Alright, we go down the breaking news list here, some of the reports out there, we talked about the


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[Assistant] An area of strength perhaps for the Broncos that they'll get some future assets from. If that makes sense. Breaking news, we need the sound.


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[Assistant] The San Francisco 49ers have signed former Eagles defensive tackle Javon.


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[Assistant] Uh, there's a report out there of a player requesting a trade. One of the better running backs, maybe the best dual threat running back, pass catching out of the backfield. Austin Eckler, requesting permission to seek a trade from the Chargers.


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[Assistant] Sorry, I didn't mean to jump you there. I was just going to kind of encompass it all with my thoughts. Who's running this show? Who's running this ship? You are, but, uh, yes, they've done, uh, they've done a few things here. So that, uh, right guard, Chris Lindstrom, who was on the all under talked about team, and you mentioned him as well, and you're all pro voting agreed to a five year extension with the Falcons. So.


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[Assistant] And a report out there that the Falcons have also signed former Saints defensive tackle David Onyemata to a 3 year deal, $35,024,500,000 guaranteed.