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[Assistant] Among the players, I'm with you. Like I do think there is some potential like JT miked up is always a good time. Uh, Max will be good.


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[Assistant] Mic'd up is good. Billy Horschel mic'd up. Terrell Hatton mic'd up. I want to know how long the delay is going to be. Tom Kim. But you also have I guess some more


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[Assistant] Getting paid, Rex. How much, what's your, what's your?


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[Assistant] Inclination, what are your sources, hashtag sources telling you about how much is actually getting into these guys' pockets?


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[Assistant] I just found it interesting with some of the players who have been announced to TGL who have kind of had one eye on Liv over the past couple years, whether it was Cameron Young, Patrick Cantlay, Xander Schauffele, Adam Scott signing up for this thing. There had to have been some sort of inducement that would certainly


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[Assistant] So make sure to go to golfshale.com or nbcsports.com.


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[Assistant] Slash golf, uh, for the latest on the venue and the format, which yours.


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[Assistant] Your Rex Hoggard laid out an entry kit.


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[Assistant] Detail Rex, you'll be up in the Ponte Vedra area on Wednesday for a driver fitting with our friends from Titleist. Not gonna lie, played golf last Friday, uh, four days ago, easily.


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[Assistant] Easily the worst round of golf I've ever played in my life. I didn't lose one ball. I didn't lose six balls. I didn't lose ten balls. I lost fourteen golf balls. Each and every one.


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[Assistant] A Telus Pro V1. And so every time I'm just sniping it into a hazard. Five dollars. Five dollars.


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[Assistant] Five dollars. It's over and over again. Left going left. Uh, I don't care what golf course you're playing. I would happen to be playing at marsh landing where I'm now. Remember shout out marsh landing.


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[Assistant] But Lily could not play that shot on any golf course. Like they're 100 yards left. And so that makes me a little bit fearful for a driver fitting because I might be unsalvageable.


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[Assistant] At this point, uh, I did want to give you some breaking news, Rex. Uh, the high forecast, the high temperature for Wednesday, uh, is a real feel of 59 degrees, uh, with wind gusts of, uh, yes, this is right, uh, 37.


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[Assistant] Miles an hour. If that, if that wind is into and from the left, we're both right handed. Not even gonna bother showing up. Just give me a standard driver. I won't have to do this another time. What are your thoughts on your upcoming visit?


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[Assistant] Yep. Not possible. Not possible. Then do the best we can. It is beautiful today. It's 80 degrees. It's gonna be a wonderful night for trick-or-treating until God knows what hour.


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[Assistant] I mean that is a massive cold front that is sweeping in if we're dropping 25 degrees day over day. However, I'm still optimistic that they can, they can position us on the range to maybe get down and off the right, uh, in which we could just take those drives to pound town, uh, set unrealistic expectations for ourselves.


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[Assistant] Yeah, even higher. We will not be sneaking out, uh, for an emergency 18, uh, after our fitting session, but we are, are very much looking forward to that. Uh, we'll have a full recap, uh, and excruciating detail on next week's podcast. Rex, a big Saturday.


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[Assistant] Ahead of us in college football, at least for those of us who support the number one Georgia Bulldogs, uh, home against Missouri, the team that almost tripped up the Bulldogs last year and rocked their back-to-back national championships. That's the 330 game and then LSU at Alabama, essentially the game that will decide


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[Assistant] Uh, the SEC West champion who Georgia hopefully will be facing the SEC Championship game. So in other words, what are you throwing on the grill?


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[Assistant] What was, what was the reason? I mean, my, my wife has taken Cam, my four year old, uh, to two Jaguars games this year. He at least let, he at least lasted one half and he's, and he's


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[Assistant] Oh gosh. Oh, so that's sex. That's the last bunks, uh, last football game, uh, of the year. I had a great time.


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[Assistant] On the field. And so like we could not have been closer to the end zone. Very interesting angle. Never sat that low before. Like seeing the gaps lined up. And if you think...


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[Assistant] A college football player looks small on TV, I guarantee he is not. Even like the scrawniest, most pipsqueak college football player is still massive.


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[Assistant] In real life and to see the speed with which the offensive lineman move and that offensive lineman move was absolutely breathtaking. Seeing it that up close and personal. I mean, I hadn't done that for a Georgia game in.


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[Assistant] 15 years since I used to cover the Bulldogs for the Athens Fairhawks. So that was certainly an eye-opening experience and always better when the dogs win. How'd you get those tickets? 43 to 20. Uh, shout out Kevin Miller.


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[Assistant] Through the UGA Athletic Department, he has now moved on to Virginia, and so I need to find a new friend.


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[Assistant] In the athletic department. So if anyone's listening from this UGA, uh, I'll hit you up on October 1, 2024, uh, for some more Georgia, Florida tickets. Uh, thank you for asking, Rex, what we're going to be doing, uh, this weekend. Uh, you mentioned Smashburgers. Uh, my wife's aunt and uncle, who I love dearly, are coming to visit on Friday. They actually requested Smashburgers. They have become such a hit, uh, in the Lavner Hoskin family.


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[Assistant] Uh, that I'll be doing that for them. Uh, I do appreciate, uh, that price point better than trying to do like five or six, uh, ribeyes, uh, which could have gotten a little bit pricey. We'll also go down to Dan's Seafood in Ponte Vedra, uh, over to your, uh, TBC Sawgrass, uh, get two dozen


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[Assistant] Uh, wait till the, wait till it starts to bubble a little bit, throw some cheese down, melt it, woof. Char-grilled oysters can absolutely...


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[Assistant] Not beat them. On Saturday for the game, uh, I've got a pork butt I've been meaning to throw on the workhorse. And so I'll do that. We'll probably do some pulled pork.


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[Assistant] Nachos, which should tie this over for the six or seven hours that we have to do. Might smoke a tri-tip as well.


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[Assistant] Shout out my buddy Sean, who hosted us for the Jags game on Sunday. I had a delicious tri-tip that got me in the mood to make one as well. Alright, that's gonna do it for this edition.


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[Assistant] The Golf Channel Podcast with Rex and Lav. Happy Halloween to all who celebrate. Enjoy those full size candy bars. And if you go to the Hoggart House, most certainly enjoy those double IPAs.


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[Assistant] I don't know how to feel because I don't think I saw this coming. I think there was always the option for a couple of low scores and to be fair, and actually Dustin Johnson just kind of brought this up when we were sort of peppering with questions about how easy the golf course was. And he goes, look, there's two guys at 62, but it falls off pretty quickly. I mean, if you kind of.


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[Assistant] June Bloom, from what they say, yes. Thank you, Steve Patowski, for the report. Now moving on to the real doc. I would argue that this was my fear.


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[Assistant] People are exposed to just something different in golf. And now my fear is, is that the USGA is sitting in a room right now, pacing back and forth, trying to come up with the devious places to put every single pet.


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[Assistant] I'm going to do like the terrible sports radio thing and throw this on someone else.


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[Assistant] I saw on Twitter that someone said, you're right behind me here, uh,


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[Assistant] To try to prove a point about the golf ball. Now I'm not saying I said that because that would be wildly irresponsible for journalists to say anything like that. I'm saying I read it on Twitter.


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[Assistant] That the USGA set it up so easy. So now after the week is over, they could point and say, look at this beautiful golf course that we want to keep coming back to. And they shot 62, two players shot 62. One of them, Dustin Johnson could have, he had an opportunity at the last hole and said he made a bogey and needed to make a birdie.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying that I believe that, but I'm just throwing it out there for discussion.


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[Assistant] And I will say, and to almost to a man, you talked to a lot of players. I talked to a lot of players. There was a, I'm not going to say fear, but they all were bracing for the inevitable. I think what happens is John Bonehammer and his crew get together. Tighten the screws.


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[Assistant] I think if you play the hard holes decent, then yes, you have some opportunities to go out and to be aggressive. It went the other way for a lot of different players. Like a lot of players have had plenty of issues, but yes, it's those two scores. It was a historic scoring day that I think is going to be the headline.


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[Assistant] Uh, and you hit on it. It was from First Alternate to First Guide to Shoot at 62 in the US Open. And so, to go from someone who, and that has to be...


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[Assistant] Go through the year and I had a chance to talk with the swing coach butch Harmon about how.


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[Assistant] physical things. He said Ricky had gotten too flat and he wasn't clearing his hips well enough. But he goes, I was able to clear those up quickly. It was the other stuff.


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[Assistant] It was all the mental damage that the last two or three years had caused that was the big issue because he had lost all of his confidence.


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[Assistant] He said he's back the way Ricky said. He goes, I'm back to where I was in 2014, 2015, but said he felt like he's actually better right now. Certainly from a swing perspective, he looked pointed out his stats today. Like, I mean, he was really, really good.


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[Assistant] No, and today I think the key was actually he made some like mid-length putts. I think he had 7 putts over 10 feet long.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Starts game pitting. And I think that's, that's probably the key. But yeaah, to the point.


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[Assistant] That, you know, the guy on the outside that you thought would have a chance this week, I picked Ricky because outside of- I picked Ricky as well.


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[Assistant] I think everybody outside of John Rahm and Scotty Scheffler and Roy McRoy, no one had been more consistent this season than Ricky. I think he'd missed one cut so far this year and he had, I think, all but two finishes inside the top 20. I mean, he had been closer thereabouts.


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[Assistant] And pretty much every single start, so you could have seen this coming. I don't think anybody was surprised by that, but it certainly must be rewarding.


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[Assistant] Just sort of take that journey over the last 12 months between Thursday last year at Brookline and this historic Thursday.


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[Assistant] I think he would have been in the conversation coming into this. We knew the one of us, I didn't pick him either and I can hear it now, me being mean to you. So Zach, I apologize. I'll stop being mean to Labrador because I don't want to do that anymore.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I want to get to Scotty, but with Zando you would think a SoCal guy, you figure coming back here, he would have good memories, he'd have all the good fields, but you're right, it's his play in the major championships that we keep looking at because that seems to be the next obvious step.


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[Assistant] It's kind of the definition of insanity. So yes, he was in a difficult position. I didn't pick him either simply because until he actually does it in a major championship, you're always going to be a little bit reluctant, but I don't think I'm surprised. I'm surprised at the number, like 62 was not a number I would have jotted down, but I wouldn't have been surprised if you told me at the end of day one, he'd be tied for the lead.


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[Assistant] I would be really curious how history is going to remember this. And only because...


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[Assistant] Yeah. And so I think in that context, they should be remembered because by comparison,


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[Assistant] You touched on it, Scottie Scheffler. I think he gained one and a half strokes on the greens. And I had to go back and look. And actually that wasn't all that out of character. He actually gained like 1.9 strokes I think in round two in Dallas just a few weeks ago. So it's not as though he hasn't done it.


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[Assistant] And look, this is just one round. I don't want to make this into something bigger than it actually is, but that certainly has to help. That certainly has to do something for his confidence, which I'm sure was at a very, very low mark.


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[Assistant] Going back to the memorial where he just didn't have it on the weekend, going back to Canada where he just didn't have it on the weekend. He's going through a swing change. He's been very, very clear about this. So no, I don't think I was going to have a lot of faith in someone that doesn't seem to have a lot of faith in their own swing right now.


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[Assistant] Facts effects. No, that's fine. There's a really good chance that the winner is going to be double digits on the par. So you can't dismiss his chances just because you keep throwing that stat out there.


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[Assistant] What they do to the God Force. Like, and I don't know what that is. Again, I called it black magic. So are you going to go out and you're going to put pins in bunkers? Are you going to find a way to...


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[Assistant] Welcome into this edition of the Golf Central Podcast presented by Callaway Golf. I'm Lav, soon to be joined by Rex. And folks, this is the season ending edition, always bittersweet, as we look back on the year that was. And so we are handing out awards to players, even some tournaments and some meals.


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[Assistant] For the 2022 golf season on the PJ Tours since that is what Rex and I primarily cover. We'll get into the best player, best newcomer, biggest disappointment, of course we'll get into all of that. We'll also do some fun ones too from our year on the road. But first,


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[Assistant] Callaway has developed their longest irons ever in the Rogue ST line. These irons are breaking ground with a high strength 450 AI face cup that's never been seen before in the industry. Callaway has continued to push innovation


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[Assistant] Including the Rogue ST Maxx for incredible speed forgiveness.


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[Assistant] And performance. They're available now. And for more information, visit CallawayGolf.com. Rex, since this is now not just an audio medium, but a visual medium, shout out to the Georgia Bulldogs, who in a couple of days will be taking on Ohio State in a highly anticipated semifinal of a college football playoff. I do hope


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[Assistant] That you had a wonderful Christmas based on the sound of your voice, uh, it is clear that you got deep in the bourbon.


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[Assistant] The entire year, we do 52 podcasts, uh, and of course we also have a couple emergency ones as well. In addition to, Rex, beginning of 2023, this is gonna be happening. The post-major round emergency pause, 15 to 20 minutes. You people asked for it. We will deliver it, so yes, we will definitely have.


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[Assistant] More than 52 podcasts in the calendar year of 2023, but I love this podcast. It's the nostalgic, I mean, uh, looking back on the year that was. And so let's just begin.


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[Assistant] With the big one, when we're handing out awards for this, we're talking player of the year. You and I are both members of the Golf Riders Association of America. We had to lodge our vote.


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[Assistant] For male player of the year, who is your?


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[Assistant] Being the reporter that I am, uh, I mean, the production value is certainly not high. This is where we've just transitioned to this visual medium just over the past month. Uh, something that other podcasts have been doing for years, literally years, uh, but, uh, baby steps. But look, Rex, we are one of the most listened to podcasts of the NBC Sports


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[Assistant] Umbrellas, like, we're absolutely killing it despite.


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[Assistant] Our lack of production. That is a long way of saying your player of the year is.


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[Assistant] Roy McRoy played the best golf in 2022. Statistically, that is indisputable. However, my player of the year, on the men's side at least,


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[Assistant] Is Cameron Smith, the aforementioned Cameron Smith. The reason I chose him as my GWA player of the year, that wasn't just the quantity of his wins, which was five.


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[Assistant] To me, Rex, it was also the quality of his wins. You look at the season opening, the lidlifter at Kapalua, record performance 34 under par, outdueling then world number one, John Rahm. That was obviously sensational. The players championship. We're going to get into it, of course, on this podcast.


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[Assistant] And the, the, the finish that he had to that term against what is literally the strongest field in golf. He was in the final group, remember, Sunday at the Masters, even though he had somewhat of a forgettable final round at Augusta National. And then he, he continued that play.


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[Assistant] as well. He made a career altering decision that certainly could have led him off course with his game. He had every reason then to kind of take off the accelerator, but he did win


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[Assistant] Uh, against 47 other players in a live tournament, and then at the end of the year, he won in Australia. So he won the first tournament of the year on the PGA Tour, and he won one of the final tournaments of the year in Australia. So Cam Smith.


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[Assistant] It's my player of the year, although I do, I gotta say, Rex, I'm not sure how many of my fellow golf riders are going to vote him. It'll be interesting.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think we have vote totals for that, I'm not totally sure, but I hope so. Maybe, not yet. I could have the only vote for Cam Smith, but I am steadfast in my belief that he was actually the best player.


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[Assistant] Let's move on, Rex, to best newcomer. Couple different directions we could go with this one. Who's your best newcomer for 2022?


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[Assistant] So, you and I have been friends for too long, uh, because I knew


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[Assistant] Uh, player of the year in college golf had a decorated career at Pepperdine that was unfortunately cut short. We actually don't know what Sahitya Khalid could have done that year. It was the year that was cut short.


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[Assistant] Uh, by COVID in 2020, still won three times. Took him a little bit of time to get out on the PGA Tour. And once he did, Rex, I was really impressed with what I saw. It wasn't just his game, uh, which is really fun. He is an erratic driver of


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[Assistant] The golf ball, to say the least, but has some great hands, is a fantastic putter, and he had a couple of chances to win, certainly the Phoenix Open, which was kind of,


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[Assistant] Uh, also did, I think Sahitha Ghala with his personality, uh, with his game could certainly be on the cup team, the Ryder Cup team in 2023. And I think he's fast becoming.


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[Assistant] A fan favorite just because of his honesty, his accessibility, his, his perspective on things. He doesn't take it all too seriously, although he's incredibly dedicated to his craft. I'm just a big fan of Sahith in general, and I think that 2022 was the start of many things to come.


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[Assistant] Of options listed here, but I'm curious which direction you want to go with best shot that we had, that we saw either in person or on television this year in 2022.


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[Assistant] From the cliff, it's the 8th hole. Everyone saw he was dangerously close to the cliff. Like if he lost his balance, he was tumbling 500 feet down to his death.


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[Assistant] That, that moment, Rex, and, and I'm, I'm a, I'm a Jordan Spieth fanboy, uh, have, have long been so. You were scared. Since his U.S. Junior. Yes, I was, I was scared for him and for his extended family, but I think that, that moment just underscores. Some pearl clutching, watching it on TV. No, oh God, no.


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[Assistant] But I do think, Rex, that moment underscores why we love watching Jordan Spieth so much. The fearlessness, the artistry, the creativity, the imagination, uhm, it always seems like


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[Assistant] This time he actually was like, he's just like teetering on the edge of disaster and you don't know whether he's gonna pull off something brilliant or he's gonna absolutely crumble as he did at the 2016 Masters. I think that's the beauty.


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[Assistant] Of Jordan Spieth and why he is as popular as he is. That is a great call. Best shot for Jordan Spieth.


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[Assistant] Pitching out and into the water on the home hole, ended up getting up and down. I would actually give honorable mention then to the road hole save.


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[Assistant] Uh, on the 71st hole of the Open Championship as well. Skye Scheffler's chip in on the third hole, final round of the Masters. Justin Thomas, second playoff hole, the three wood, on to the green, Tupa Birdie.


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[Assistant] But the obvious answer for the best shot in 2022, because it wasn't just the best shot of the year, it was one of the best shots in major championship history.


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[Assistant] Was Matt Fitzpatrick, out of the fairway bunker, 155 yards, 9 iron, the 72nd hole, 9 iron, 72nd hole, at the country club, clearing that lip.


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[Assistant] Also clearing, uh, the greenside bunker, plopping that 15-20 feet behind the hole, uh, was an incredible shot. Fairway Bunker play is actually one of Matt Fitzpatrick's greatest weaknesses, and for him to hit that squeezy fade


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[Assistant] A shot of his life. I remember Wills Althorst's playing partner called it a 1 in 20 shot. Uh, was epic. One of the best clutch shots we have ever seen in major championship history. So for me that was a far away.


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[Assistant] I mean there were trees that was way far left. It was a weird stance where the ball was above his feet and there was a lip that was like protruding so he had to get it up quickly. He had to pick it absolutely perfectly.


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[Assistant] How about biggest surprise, right? I don't know if you don't want to go situationally here, or player wise, but biggest surprise in 2022.


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[Assistant] We did have this conversation, and you picked Scottie Shelford for a breakout year.


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[Assistant] No, absolutely not. I mean, it'd be revisionist history to look back and say, oh boy, this guy was destined for greatness. Of course he was going to rip off four wins. Put a green jacket on him when he was at


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[Assistant] I think in hindsight, like he clearly had the pedigree, uh, you don't, you don't win a US junior, you're not the number one ranked junior in the country, you're not, uh, a college all-American, uh, just by kind of fluking your way around. Did I think he could win a major?


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[Assistant] Definitely. I thought he could be a top 10 player in the world. He certainly had that pedigree, but to spend 30 weeks.


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[Assistant] As the world number one, uh, to, to win a major championship and basically three other what are now elevated events on the PGA Tour. That was an epic run and I don't think he's gonna necessarily fall off in 2023, although I do think it will be difficult to replicate. That's a very good call. I went kind of big picture and the biggest surprise to me, Rex, was the animosity


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[Assistant] That we saw among the global golf landscape. That extended from the tours and either Commissioner Jay Monahan or DP Chief Executive.


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[Assistant] Uh, Keith Pelly, it extended to the players, you know, kind of the old guard with Lee Westwood.


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[Assistant] Ian Poulter and Sergio Garcia to even some of the younger players, whether it's Roy McElroy who's, you know, in his early thirties.


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[Assistant] Uh, Justin Thomas, even, y-you know, Sahith Fagala, uh, kind of took offense to some of the barbs that the live players were throwing their way. I fi- I found that very surprising. I knew it was obviously going to be a divisive issue. You don't look- just look at the, uh, Saudis.


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[Assistant] Human rights record and think, uhm, that getting in bed.


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[Assistant] Uh, with that sort of murderous regime is going to go over well when they're literally trying to take over a sport. But I guess I was a little bit surprised that that extended all the way down to the players. Not just with the antitrust lawsuit, but then the counter suit. There's the case, uh, the trial.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's set for February, uh, in Europe. Like, it's just really messy. I knew, I knew there was gonna be...


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[Assistant] I guess some level of animosity, but how it is completely, uh, destroyed, uh, the elite men's game was a little bit surprising to me.


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[Assistant] Do I look like Christmas? Like what did you do? Besides, besides get COVID RSV and the flu and alcoholism all in one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, our boss, Mercer Bags and I, uh, had a little bit of a travel snafu. We were supposed to join you at Scottish Open. Those, uh, that reservation never was made and so we headed early.


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[Assistant] Over to St. Andrews and he and I, uh, were getting beers on, uh, the rooftop bar of the Rusex.


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[Assistant] And we saw Tiger Woods and Justin Thomas head out for the practice round. That was really cool. We walked the entire 18 hole practice round with Tiger on Sunday, which really set the tone for what I thought was, I agree with you, the Open Championship was the best tournament of the year. I thought it was a week.


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[Assistant] Unlike any other, it wasn't just, it wasn't just like the precursor.


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[Assistant] It was the Champions Challenge, which I thought was really cool on Monday. We had some testiness in the media press conferences earlier in the week with Tiger.


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[Assistant] Was awesome as well with Roy McRoy, Victor, uh, Hovland, staking themselves to a 54 hole lead, seeing the angst on, uh, my fellow golf riders faces, uh, while preparing to potentially write a Roy McRoy win at the 150th open at St. Andrews, breaking an eight year winless drought.


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[Assistant] Uh, was, was certainly fun. There's, there's talk of like


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[Assistant] Couple golf riders going to like old Tom Morris' grave to get like inspiration, uh, for their final round gamers, uh, and all of it of course was for naught with Cam Smith's epic.


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[Assistant] Final round 64 and Roy McRoy is just dispiriting, uh, 18 green in regulation.


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[Assistant] So from start to finish, and even before the tournament, the first two days before the tournament actually began, the 150th open.


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[Assistant] Was definitely a highlight for me. Going, just walking around St. Andrews. Shout out Bunk Mate. We had a great time housing her in our flat in St. Andrews. Uh, so that one was a no-brainer. Rex, how about in the non-major division? What was the best tournament? Are you covered?


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[Assistant] I would agree with that, like, some of these, some of these terms when you think about it, like, from,


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[Assistant] I think our, our perspective can be skewed by if it's a great Sunday, right? Like was, was that a great tournament or was that a great Sunday or was that a great final hour? So like,


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[Assistant] You could have thrown the PGA Championship in there, which I thought was kind of sleepy, right? You had like Mido Pereira, Mathis Patrick dueling it out, and then it got really tight. We booked the wrong hotel.


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[Assistant] That was a, that was a personal, personal snafu, uh, on, on your part. Like I thought,


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[Assistant] I thought the Memphis tournament had a great ending, right? Like the, the playoff with Wills Altaurus and Sepp Straka was very entertaining. You had the melodrama of the Kamsmith playoff when he had a chance to get to world number one with all the rumors of him defecting. And so my pick, and I actually can't believe you went, didn't go this direction.


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[Assistant] We look forward to these team events each and every year. We all knew that the President's Cup was going to be lopsided in favor of the Americans, and it certainly looked that way, right? After Friday, it was 8-2.


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[Assistant] And then all of a sudden on Saturday, I thought Saturday was the best day of the tournament. It got really close to internationals led by Tom Kim, the aforementioned Tom Kim, breakout star Tom Kim.


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[Assistant] Uh, added a lot of drama to the proceedings. You had Scottie Scheffler putting in the dark. You had the Americans, uh, super pissed off in their team room on Saturday. And there was a moment, Rex.


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[Assistant] It was a, it didn't last long. It was maybe 30 minutes, maybe 45 minutes. But there was actually a moment on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Where the door was open for the internationals to win the president's cup when it looked like that wasn't even feasible. It was incomprehensible.


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[Assistant] About 48 hours earlier. So the President's Cup to me, even though we all knew it was eventually going to be a five point American win. Those team events, we get to see players in a different light. We get to see players


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[Assistant] Uh, come up with Clutch Performance. We get to see Unlikely Heroes. I absolutely love team events and I'm sure the Ryder Cup next year is when we do this year end podcast next year. I'm sure the Ryder Cup is going to be the highlight for us as well.


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[Assistant] So this is the one I had to reach out for. I have to say, Rex, it definitely was not


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[Assistant] The place that you and I tried to find for an hour in Pacific Palisades. I was gonna try that, yea.


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[Assistant] Well, I had a throbbing toothache that eventually became a root canal. That, that unfortunately did not make best, but who knows if that place actually existed, if it didn't, if it wasn't defunct as of like 2022 or excuse me, 2012, uh, then that certainly could have been my best meal in lieu of that.


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[Assistant] So I'm going with our media dinner at the Tour Championship, a place called Yibo.


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[Assistant] Beach House. I hope I'm not butchering that pronunciation. In Atlanta, it was that South African flair. They closed off a room for us. I mean, it was unbelievable, folks. It had to have cost $10,000 on the same day. Of course, the media dinner was the same day.


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[Assistant] At the PGA tour announced all the elevated events and the $20 million purses. Phil Mickelson's popping off about, oh, where'd they find all the, all the reserve cash? Well, they found it folks. They found it with, with


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[Assistant] Ten to twenty thousand dollar media dinners, uh, which we very much enjoyed on the PJ Tour Com staff. You and I worked very closely with them throughout the entire year. Incredibly appreciative of all their efforts. Thank you Shooky. Thank you Laura. Thank you Shooky.


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[Assistant] My boys, Stu Moore, uh, always hookin' us up. Rachel, uh, Jack, the entire gang. I don't want to leave anybody. Tracy.


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[Assistant] Tracy. Johnny Bush. Johnny Bush. I mean we're, uh, Bill Nye.


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[Assistant] Dougie. Mark Williams, now a U.S. citizen. Shout out, uh, Mark Williams. And so that's definitely the highlight for me. Best meal. It was unbelievable. Super appreciative of our comms friends.


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[Assistant] That's excellent. I believe when we did this podcast last year, I may have given the commissary


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[Assistant] A shout out as well. I was distraught that you did not go to the barbeque shop.


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[Assistant] I don't think I was at a tournament. Nope, I take that back. I don't know what it was called, but we had this boot.


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[Assistant] Uh, I believe you were late. Yeah, we had a DOS boot at St. Andrews.


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[Assistant] We had it with the bunk mate. It was like 70 something ounces. Uh, I don't know if it was the best drink, but it was like the best drinking experience that I had on the road. That's gonna have to count. I mean, obviously.


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[Assistant] Weren't you late? You were talking, you were talking to someone. Yeah, maybe I was a little late. But I remember, I remember. You got to, yeah.


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[Assistant] That's cheating. I didn't, I didn't get to go to Ireland, uh, this year, although we were talking about it last year.


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[Assistant] I know, we were talking about last night, dinner, we were already making, uh, plans. What, eh, the, the next, uh, open at Port Rush, I believe is 2025?


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[Assistant] Has that been announced yet? Maybe it hasn't been announced. Who knows? Whatever it is, we're doing a couples trip.


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[Assistant] Uh, doing Dublin beforehand and then going up to Port Rush. Uh, it already cannot wait for that in a few years time. If you've never been, it's an absolutely wonderful country.


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[Assistant] So much to do. So much to experience. Let's go negative, Rex. Let's be super pessimistic. Let's be super Debbie Downers. Biggest disappointment. Be as harsh as humanly possible here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I can't believe we agreed on this, but we definitely do. To me this was...


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[Assistant] An obvious choice after he tarnished his legacy and shifted to the forefront of the movement to destroy the PGA Tour. There's clearly going to be some live supporters, but there's a lot more, at least PGA Tour defenders at the moment. And that just did not sit well. The caustic comments that he made


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[Assistant] He to me came off as manipulative, duplicitous, morally bankrupt. And once he came back and we saw him for the first time, we didn't cover the first live event in London, but when we saw him a week later at the US Open, he just like looked hollow. He looked dead inside. He, he sounded,


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[Assistant] Insincere and it was just such a far cry from where he was. Like literally.


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[Assistant] Thirteen months earlier when he was on top of the world and everyone was praising Phil.


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[Assistant] Uh, for his legendary status and his longevity in the game. It's just amazing, Rex, to think of all that Phil Mickelson.


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[Assistant] Uh, by Augusta National saying that live players will be allowed to play in the 2023 Masters. Phil Mickelson was not mentioned by name even though like 10 other legends of the game were mentioned. So I think that lets you know how Fred Ridley and company think about Phil Mickelson at this time. I just don't think you can help but wonder.


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[Assistant] Uhm, if this was all worth it. Snapping your fingers at the dog doesn't help. Absolutely. It's a visual medium now. So just stop. So annoying. Uh, so yes, big disappointment for sure was Phil Mickelson. Let's do a personal one to round this one out, Rex.


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[Assistant] Best Sunday night on Deadline and worst of which there were probably many.


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[Assistant] Are we, are we talking, are we talking about, are we talking about best story we wrote on Deadline or just best story to write? I would like to do this personally.


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[Assistant] I remember this story where it was absolutely dreadful. Uhm, I'm not sure which one your best one was on deadline. Perhaps when I give this answer, uh, you can start thinking, uh, I'll, I'll answer this one personally then for me.


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[Assistant] You always mention that I'm like the grief eater and so like my number one highlight was Mido Pereira at the PGA Championship.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I had a lot of good background that I've been working on for like the previous 48 hours, uh, uh, thinking that he could potentially win and we really didn't know all that much about him and then kind of having to shift the tone of it and make it more


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[Assistant] And what kind of lessons we can draw from them. So that was a highlight for me, uh, Cam Smith and Rory at the open championship. Another shout out bunkmate. You and I did the podcast immediately after. That was your best.


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[Assistant] That's funny. Is that your best? Uh, one of them. One of them. Oh. Oh wow. Alright. Trying to piece those two parallel stories together. We had some good stuff. Uh, seeing Roy crying on Eric's shoulder, uh, while getting shuttled.


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[Assistant] Out of the media area was a highlight. How about worst, Rex? What was your worst Sunday night on Deadline?


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[Assistant] She was just impervious to our deadline struggles. All the same. Although I must say, I really did enjoy the game story. I was just looking through that the other day. For me, worse. I can't believe you didn't go this direction because you and I were literally standing next to each other that this happened.


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[Assistant] It was Augusta National, the Masters, and trying to get Scotty Scheffler's family.


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[Assistant] After he won, I was already in kind of a, a, a, a poor, uh, state of mind at this point. I'd already written like 1800 words, kind of wrapping up.


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[Assistant] I was already kind of tapped up mentally from that one. I kept striking out left and right trying to get people close to Scottie's orbit.


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[Assistant] After the butler cabin ceremony and the green jacket ceremony on the practice putting green, I kept missing guys and so I was getting increasingly frustrated and in the winter's press conference, I'm sure you guys remember this guy told this great anecdote of how he was crying on Sunday morning.


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[Assistant] Uh, sort of signs, uh, indicating this, but apparently that is off limits to media members. We were told by the Augusta National Representative that the family, uh, was not doing any interviews. I am still skeptical, Rex, when we were recording this late December 2022, that the family members were even asked.


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[Assistant] And we were stiff-armed. We were absolutely Heisman'd. And that one hurt. That- I'm still bitter- I'm still bitter to this day.


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[Assistant] We're definitely going to ask Scott. That is one of our early missions in 2023. One of the things that we try and do, not just on the podcast, but writing for storiesforgolfshannel.com, is we want to give readers, listeners, details that they can't get anywhere else. We're in position. I'm never going to let this go. In fact, I may just lodge a formal complaint. Sausage fingers up.


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[Assistant] I wrote 700 words, I don't even think I wrote, uh, live on Sunday night.


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[Assistant] Uh, at Rivera, which is kind of shocking. We did what, uh, what used to be known as writer's block, which was like a 15, 20 minute video segment afterward. I don't even think I wrote live. I just focused on the Monday Scramble, which is what you kind of have to do when you have a four or five, six shot, whatever it was, victory by Joaquin Nieman and something that wasn't going to resonate.


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[Assistant] 20 hours from now, uh, hope you guys have enjoyed this incredibly brief off-season before the PJ Tour kicks off again at Kapalua the first week of January. I must say,


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[Assistant] Although our golf calendars are absolutely packed, Rex, and it feels like we don't have all that much of a break,


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[Assistant] I think I'm ready for the PJ Tour season to begin again. I don't know what we would do if we had like a dedicated offseason where literally things


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[Assistant] Went dark for three or four months. Obviously I think the anticipation would be off the charts, uh, but I also think that I would drive myself positively insane if we didn't have something to talk about. I'm not sure you and I would, would have jobs.


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[Assistant] Like, I'm ready, I'm ready to kick this thing off and have golf to focus on. I do think, and we'll get into this obviously in the season preview podcast, I do think more focus will be on the golf in 2023 than it was in 2022, which seemed to be really focused on the disruption.


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[Assistant] No, I don't think it's gonna go away, but I don't think we're gonna have, when we're act, when we're act tournaments, I think we would actually be covering the golf as opposed to


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[Assistant] Listening to the rumor mill, trying to hunt down various rumors, talking about what every player thinks about Liv. Like, I don't think we're gonna have that in 2023, which will be a welcome departure. I do think there's, obviously there's gonna be a torrent of nudes.


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[Assistant] Related to Liv, but I don't think it's gonna be kind of the gossipy stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you, if you, if you sound like this, if you sound like this on January 2nd, we need to call a doctor because you're clearly dying.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, I could be. I just could be incredibly dour.


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[Assistant] On the first podcast of 2023. But I, I do want to thank Rex, all of, not just our readers on golfchannel.com, but all the listeners here with the Golf Central podcast, presented by Cowboy Golf, supporting us throughout 2022. We're excited about some of the progress we've made, some of the technological advances we're planning on doing, even a little bit more.


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[Assistant] In 2023, if you can believe that, a Goliath of a company like Golf Channel and NBC Sports will be doing even more with this digital video and audio space. So thank you guys so much


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[Assistant] Welcome into this Golf Channel pod with Rex and Lav, this week's edition.


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[Assistant] All about Tiger Woods. He's teeing up this week at the Genesis Invitational. He talked on Tuesday, Valentine's Day, February 14th in LA. That's where I'm stationed. Rex, you are definitely not at home. Happy Valentine's Day to you. Real quick.


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[Assistant] Where'd you get the bunkmate since you weren't home on Valentine's? You clearly got her something special.


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[Assistant] I don't know how you could possibly forget, uh, the greeting card national holiday, uh, but apparently you did, uh, I'm sure she was not tuned into golf today as well. Bunkmate, I would never forget you. In fact, I may text you a happy Valentine's day. This is this podcast recording is over. Rex, you are in Connecticut.


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[Assistant] I know I was being vague there. You're in Connecticut co-hosting golf today. How are things going under That's with Damon.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm not sure I would have handled that well. The cameras would have caught me rolling my eyes, scoffing at him, like literally chortling, chortling out loud. Uh, yeaah. I'm motivated by many things. It is not a happiness. It's fear, it's doubt, it's failure, uh, death, uh, whatever the case may be. Those are the things, uh, I am motivated for.


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[Assistant] Of course, I did. I have had zero, uh, internal combustion whatsoever. I probably won't go back.


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[Assistant] Uh, the rest of the week, uh, we are in LA. They're a little bit more health conscious than they are in Jacksonville. Uh, but no, I thought that was a good tone setter for the week. I feel totally fine on Tuesday. Zero issues whatsoever. I'm not, I'm not an old man like you with a, with a questionable digestive system.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we can certainly, uh, circle back on the Super Bowl party. You know what? Hosting, hosting is a little bit overrated. Uh, I actually ate less, way less than I ever would because I was too busy making sure everyone else was well fed. Uh, the drink situation, however, uh, was a different story. Uh, by the time that I, that I flew out,


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[Assistant] Uh, at, I think 725 on Monday, I was fine.


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[Assistant] That extra hour, uh, rest was certainly helpful.


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[Assistant] Tucked myself into bed at midnight and that alarm went off at 4.30.


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[Assistant] I was just talking to Joel Schuchman of the, of the PJ tour. He said, did you guys cut down on your diatribes at the beginning of the podcast? I said, you betcha. I said, we, we never go nine minutes anymore. It's always like three or four.


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[Assistant] That might, that might be your reward, but I promise you in the person in 6B.


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[Assistant] 16C, they're not going to be, they're not going to be so happy you went to In-N-Out before the red eye.


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[Assistant] I was a little frazzled. Look, flying across the country is not as easy.


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[Assistant] To get to Riviera, let's get Tiger Woods. Met with the media today. He was one of those late commitments, right? The Genesis Invitational Direct.


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[Assistant] I wrote about this on golfchannel.com. You guys can check it out. It should post here shortly.


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[Assistant] This was different in that unlike previous years, it wasn't like a breathless anticipation as this tournament deadline.


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[Assistant] Was approaching. I don't think it really even crossed my mind that that he that he could or or would end up playing in this. I thought.


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[Assistant] And then the PJ tour was capped during the broadcast. I hope you noticed that one as well. I did.


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[Assistant] Yeah, talking to a member of Tiger's inner circle, uh, earlier this afternoon. Who was that? Uh, he's, he said it was essentially a, like a last minute call.


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[Assistant] On Friday, like, yeaah, I feel pretty good. Let's do it. And then the phone call went to Joe Lakov. It wasn't like they were just slow playing this. And then just for the sake of, of slow playing, like we've seen Tiger Woods do in the past, this was like a, yeaah, I feel pretty good. I think I can do this. It'll be fine. Keep in mind Tiger Woods has not yet walked 72 consecutive holes, uh, over four days in South Florida as preparation for this. So he'll,


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[Assistant] How to be winging it. He did not play on Tuesday, uh, just headed to the practice range, uh, just about an hour or so ago, but he is playing an 18-hole practice round, 6.30 AM, Rex. That is going to be, I think, a low of 41 degrees.


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[Assistant] In practice, his body, his body felt good, whatever good means, uh, these days now that he's 47, uh, with a body that is, that is breaking down as we speak. But I think it's a huge boon to the tournament, obviously, which benefits his foundation. It's a huge boon to the PGA tour.


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[Assistant] Haven't seen him in a regular tour event like this in two and a half years. Uh, and so there's certainly a level of excitement that wouldn't have existed otherwise, even though you do have, you know, the top 23 players in the world who are eligible playing this week.


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[Assistant] I thought that the Masters, first, I mean, that was his first competitive appearance in what, 14 months since the car accident. To be able to walk that golf course, uh, so, so short removed.


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[Assistant] From that horrific car accident and what it, what it mangled his leg. I mean, it was unbelievable. The staff being able to do that with, with making the cut as well.


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[Assistant] It really is. I also think Kobe's, uh, training regiments for Tiger Woods and one of his other clients, uh, Justin Thomas, uh, is probably a stark difference to be sure. But look, I mean, Tiger Woods, it was almost nonchalant, like the fact that he was playing this week, like he threw out a line, like I would not put myself out here.


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[Assistant] If I didn't think I could beat these guys and win this event, like that's my mentality. We've heard that.


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[Assistant] The expectations had certainly been tempered to the point now where, you know, we say just stay upright for 72 holes. I remember talking about that at the Masters and the PGA championship. Like if Tiger Woods can just stay upright for 72 holes, I think we would deem that a success. And so one of the things I wanted to explore, Rex, that I did, uh, for a column on golfchannel.com


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[Assistant] Tonight, this is Tuesday night, I'm referring to, is, I kind of talked about,


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[Assistant] The, the parallels that we're seeing with Tom Brady and Patrick Bahones and the currency of the NFL versus Tiger and the Rory's and the Rams and the Scotties and the modern look


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[Assistant] Of the PJ tour, Tom Brady, of course, uh, just retired about a month ago after an unparalleled career seven.


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[Assistant] Super Bowl titles and now Patrick Williams with his second MVP, second Super Bowl title in his first six seasons has kind of become the heir apparent, right? Like the place, the guy who's already cemented his spot in Canton, uh, and now there's talk that he could, uh, eventually overtake Tom Brady as the GOAT. And so Tom Brady, he retired for 40 days.


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[Assistant] In February 2022 ended up coming back this year and even though it was a down year, his lofty standards.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the league of passing, right? And, uh, still led the Bucks to a playoff berth and yet he retired this time, quote, for good because he basically had nothing left to give, uh, and nothing left to prove. Tiger Woods has not had anything to prove, Rex, for.


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[Assistant] Decades, if not more. I mean, he could have walked away, certainly after the fusion surgery in 2017.


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[Assistant] Could have walked away after the Miracle Masters win in 2019.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the desires of clearly guys who are freak athletes. I don't mean that in a derogatory sense. I mean these are guys who are outliers. They are...


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[Assistant] Athletic anomalies and Tiger Woods is certainly.


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[Assistant] Maybe T35 is the best he can accomplish. Tiger Woods is not there yet. He may get there.


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[Assistant] Quickly, he may get there in the next few months. Uh, once a major championship season rolls around, he may get there at the end of the year. He may get there in five years. We don't know.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I thought the unwillingness to view himself in that light, even as the injuries mount, even at his advanced age of 47, even as


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[Assistant] You know, the PJ tour gets younger and deeper than ever before, I thought was really revealing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and it was kind of a look into the mindset of a guy who's clearly just wired differently.


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[Assistant] 83, 83 is probably going to end up being 16, right? Like I think the Genesis Invitational is a one-off. He didn't mention the player's championship when he was talking about his schedule. He said, I'm going to play here and then we'll reassess for Augusta. He didn't, he didn't say for TBC Sawgrass and the players championship. I think this is probably going to be probably his one-off for the year.


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[Assistant] But he also didn't just, he also didn't just walk and play 18 holes. That was a big difference. Totally.


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[Assistant] Well, certainly. I think it was a given, you know, health issues, notwithstanding that he'd be playing LACC for the US Open this year, back in his old hometown.


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[Assistant] Uh, golf course we haven't seen in a major championship rota, uh, for a very long time. If there's one that he's going to miss, it's probably going to be the PGA at Oak Hills. You're talking about cold here. I'm, I'm from, I'm from Pittsburgh, New York. Uh, that could be.


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[Assistant] Uh, downright fridges. You, you mentioned kind of the motivation in the Desires for Tiger. You make a good point there. Uh, there's certainly a lot of carrots there, whether it's, it's 16, whether it's 83.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think Charlie Woods, uh, his son is certainly a motivation and a driving force, uh, keeping him competitive, keeping him want wanting to be out there. You know, he talked years ago when he was mired.


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[Assistant] Uh, with all those back issues of, of not wanting to be just a YouTube golfer. And that was kind of quenched, right, with, uh, not just the Zozo, but of course the master's title back.


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[Assistant] In 2019 as well. So there's, there's certain motivations there and.


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[Assistant] Justin Rose actually talked about this, uhm, how it's more just proving it to yourself.


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[Assistant] That, you know, as an athlete and someone who's been around as long as Tiger has 25, 26 years, uh, on the competitive stage, like you go through different iterations of who you are as a competitor and it's proving to yourself that you can still do it. That would be deeply satisfying. And so Tiger Woods said he hasn't been fueled by doubters for years, but


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[Assistant] Having to prove it himself, uh, is kind of, is kind of his driving force now.


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[Assistant] I mean, you rain, I mean the doors are locked, uh, your clothes are on the front stoop. Did you ask what she got you for Valentine's Day or is this just like a one way street?


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[Assistant] Moving on. Nevermind. You said you're not in the, uh, you said you've gotten out of the Tiger Woods betting business. What's your expectation?


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[Assistant] He's playing, he's playing, he's playing at noon local time on Thursday. Now, Friday, I think is T-time somewhere in the 730 of the city. That could be cold, but that's, that's certainly not going to be a factor in his opening round. It'll be, it'll be, it'll be the warmest of the day. Let's put it that way on Thursday.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of time, there's a lot of scar tissue that has accumulated over the years when it comes to Tiger Woods and putting on these greens. I do think, I do think he'd make the cut. Uh, clearly he has seen something in his practice that we are not privy to, obviously. He's seen something at medalists that leads him to believe that he can play well or he would not put himself on a worldwide stage.


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[Assistant] Uh, knowing that every single swing is going to be dissected by people like us. I do think he'll make the cut and you look, even though this is a designated event, there's been a lot of talk.


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[Assistant] About this and I want to get your thought on it now. For a designated event. This is one of the marquee events on the PJ Tours schedule. I think you and I would both agree. There's a lot of fluff.


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[Assistant] On this backend and there's been rumblings. There's been talk on tour that these designated events.


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[Assistant] Right, could be trimmed. I think there's like 130 players this week. Could be trimmed into kind of that BMW championship model of 70 players. Maybe it's 90 players, 100 players. That is still very much TVD as both Tiger Woods, uh, who's kind of orchestrating these meetings as well as Scottie Scheffler, uh, said on Tuesday. It's still very much in flux, but is the tour better off reducing these fields?


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[Assistant] To make it strength on strength or is there still room for


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[Assistant] The Nick Taylors of the world, right? Who pushed Scottie Scheffler all the way to the finish line last week at the Phoenix Open was tied for the lead heading into the 70th hole of the tournament and ended up finishing in second place. Where do you fall on that? If you're looking at from a purely entertainment product because right now,


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[Assistant] 200 something in the world, but he had one twice on tour. It had been a minute since, uh, he challenged. Yeah, like it was, it was a really good story.


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[Assistant] That's essentially just a bloated live. Is it not?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, there's certainly going to be growing pains as we look forward to 2024. We're already seeing growing pains, the dichotomy, uh, between the A tour and the B tour. That's kind of always existed, but now it's been made official with these quote unquote designated events. I think I would counter Rex with, with, with the argument that this isn't going to be a meritocracy.


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[Assistant] If there's 70 players that still earn their spot, they've earned their right to be in those tournaments. It's going to be largely based on the FedExCup standings is what my understanding is. However, I think there is room in what I would like to see.


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[Assistant] Is this something that they're gonna figure out the pack of support tiger rory etc is how do you create an avenue for the hot shot new pro.


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[Assistant] How do you create an avenue for the player who is playing the best in kind of these B-Series events, right? These non-designated events. How do you still allow them to alter the trajectory of their career and play their way into this series?


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[Assistant] And you know, whether you're, you can, you can take a couple of players from the DP World Tour who have been tearing up, who are leading the race to Dubai through X, uh, cutoff date. Like there has to be.


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[Assistant] Some movement on the back end, whether it's 5 guys, 10 guys, 20 guys, whatever the number is, you have to have a set PJ Tour players who have earned their way.


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[Assistant] As well as some of these intriguing names. The hottest players. Uhm, the players who are tearing it up in the corn fair. Whatever the case may be, you still have to reserve spots for that. Because those stories can still resonate and that's how you create


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[Assistant] I don't think it's less of a meritocracy. I think it's more the idea that this could become a closed shop.


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[Assistant] And that's dangerous for the Pichi Tour, because then you just essentially have what is a bloated live model. Live model is 48 players who play against each other.


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[Assistant] All year long, 14 times a year, that's essentially what this designated...


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[Assistant] Uh, tournament schedule is going to be, just call it 70 players. And so I don't, I don't think that's a good model. It needs to be shaken up at the back end.


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[Assistant] Which is fun, I think 2024 is gonna be a wake up call for everyone, it's gonna be new, it's gonna be exciting, it's gonna be innovative, it's going to be uhm,


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[Assistant] Certainly a conversation starter among the haves and have nots on the PJ tour. I don't think that.


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[Assistant] Exactly, there is no reason why the PGTOR cannot adopt those same sorts of qualification criteria for these designated events.


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[Assistant] Top three guys who are on the standings who are not otherwise eligible gain entry into the Genesis Invitational. Like that's an easy way to get around it. Uhm, and that's something that I'd like to see moving forward. Uhm, and, and I think Adam Scott's speaking with us on Wednesday, uh, just a newly elected PAC chairman. I'm curious to hear his thoughts as well on that.


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[Assistant] Did the USJ have some hand in that? Because of course they did.


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[Assistant] My friends, my friends, my friends actually joke that, uh, since he's 94 years old, maybe he was, instead of fertilizing, he was just pouring like motor oil on it and that's the reason why it was so slippery. Just a, just a, just a, just a low blow.


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[Assistant] They had no problem doing that last year. It's so fine. Of course, uh, Odo Beckham tours ACL, uh, which is apparently one to happen when you play on artificial turf. But I mean, you do not have this issue where people are talking days after it, not just about the phantom holding call, uh, but about the turf management system.


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[Assistant] Maybe he was just saying that so he didn't get fined. Who knows? I don't know, uh, what Bradbury's motivations were. Rihanna. Shout out to Rihanna.


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[Assistant] Uh, incredible halftime show. Rex, we're taping this on Tuesday, on Wednesday. Wednesday, the highly anticipated Netflix series, full swing, uh, finally drops. I've had an opportunity to preview the entire series. Uh, have you been able to watch it, and if so, what are your initial impressions?


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[Assistant] I was watching full swing. I was watching full swing.


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[Assistant] So I plowed through it last week and had an opportunity to get an advanced screening of its eight episodes. All the episodes are roughly 45 minutes in nature. Rex, this is a visual medium now on YouTube, so feel free to head back to your seat whenever you do get a minute. However, I thought it was an enjoyable watch.


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[Assistant] I think I would, and I'm not going to do any spoilers because that's lame, uh, and I want people to decide for themselves. I will say it is more character driven than I was anticipating. I didn't think it was necessarily going to be like an expose or a deep dive into like the PJ tour live split.


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[Assistant] I would caution anyone who is about to dive into the series, like, they're trying to very much develop characters, whether it's Tony Fennell, Joel Damon, Matt Fitzpatrick, whatever the case may be, uh, and less about, like, Live Threat was always, I would call it like omnipresent, but it was never


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[Assistant] There was never like a thorough examination or looking at it in rich detail. Like even with Ian Poulter and Brooks Koepka, there was kind of a, a slow build up to it. And then it was like, oh yeah. And these guys went to live and like, it just kind of disappeared. So that was interesting to me a little bit.


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[Assistant] Different than my expectations, but I did think it was an enjoyable watch. I don't think for golf fans, uh, it is, it's, it's a game changer necessarily. Um, but I did, I found it enjoyable and it was kind of fun to see it captured in a different way than you and I, uh, just do on the website.


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[Assistant] I will have to, I will, uh, now that I've finished the series, uh, I will have to find that shout out kind of more, uh, he of golf pass fame, not Conor McGregor.


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[Assistant] Uh, opinions, that was mine. I also have a piece on golfchair.com that dropped on Tuesday morning.


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[Assistant] of the show for me as well as Brooks Koepka looking as vulnerable and as forlorn as we have ever seen. Rex, you did not watch the Super Bowl, so I cannot ask you what was on the grill.


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[Assistant] Oh, you did? Oh, you got to the seat. Okay. Right here. On that, on that bed right there.


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[Assistant] You said room service, uh, which is very sad. I sent you a snappy chat, uh, for my party where we did smash, uh, smash burgers, uh, Italian sausage, actually beer brats, uh, as well as way too many, way too many.


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[Assistant] Sides and appetizers to go along with the Duval Light keg flowing from the keg row. This was kind of the, uh, introductory party to the backyard. People were loving it. You and I will be doing the podcast next week from the backyard.


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[Assistant] Uh, it'll be the debut on the golf channel podcast with Rex.


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[Assistant] You can do it, you can do it from your outdated hotel room at PGA now. So that will be, that will be, that will be the worldwide debut.


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[Assistant] That's the first thing we have to talk about. I can give her a belated Valentine's Day shout out. I'll shout out my wife as well, uh, who is the absolute best. I did send her, I not only sent her flowers, gave her chocolates, sent her a nice note, uh, because I am husband of the year for the year 20.


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[Assistant] Thank you guys for listening to this edition of the Golf Channel Pod with Rex and Lap. Talk to you next week.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pick Six Podcast, CBS Sports NFL Podcast. I'm Wil Brinton. I'm your host. This episode of Pick Six is presented by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. Joining me to talk about some NFL dominoes.


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[Assistant] News and notes around the league, and to do a jersey bracket, best jersey in the NFL, John Bridges and Tyler Sullivan. What's up fellas? What's happening? How we doing? Good. Good.


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[Assistant] I was like, I didn't realize you were in Pittsburgh. Uhm, yeaah. Pretty big, pretty big surprise to have my voice. Little crackly, but not bad. I didn't go to the games. I had a bunch of friends who went up to Pittsburgh. Obviously Danny, Uncle Danny went to Pittsburgh. I'm a little wary.


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[Assistant] Of going, like I didn't go to the ACC tournament games in DC. We were on the table. I didn't go to Pittsburgh. We went both.


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[Assistant] Yeah, how you doing, Sully? How you doing? Your team's, uh... Good, hanging in there. You know, I'm doing better than my bracket. When you were in school, you told me my bracket was absolute trash. Shout out to Matt Norlander, uh, I on College Basketball podcast, who made it a point to hammer home that what you should definitely do is not pick all the number one and number two seeds to advance to the Sweet 16 because it hasn't happened in the last six years and what do you know, it happened this year.


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[Assistant] I think favorites are on like an 11-0 run in the bracket, something crazy. Uh, NC State is the only Cinderella, and I saw Norlander arguing that as a, uh, as a power five conference team that we don't count as a Cinderella, I would massively disagree. Uhm, I will say just a couple more things on this NC State stuff. Uhm, yeaah, uh, they are, so, they're two games away, they play in Dallas.


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[Assistant] In the Sweet 16, if they win against Marquette as a six and, seven, six and a half point underdog. Last time I checked, uhm, we were playing the lead eight against either Duke or Houston.


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[Assistant] What's interesting is that NC State's 1983 national championship team.


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[Assistant] Beat Marquette in the final four and then Houston in the finals to win the title. So it's potentially like the same path to get to the first final four since 1983.


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[Assistant] Also, if we get to the final four and to the championship game.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think just the, I think just the championship game on the sideline. I'm going to be gone. I'm going to take a trip with my parents. Uhm, on a dive trip and one of their friends is coming along is, uh, our, our buddy David Thompson.


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[Assistant] Is the next domino to fall to really kick, to move this off season in the, in the, in the next, to the next level? Because like, you know, we've, Kirk Cousins was the first free agency domino. What's the next off season domino?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that makes sense. And they also went out and signed Bryce off to a big contract. It's like...


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[Assistant] Uhm, and Josh, you know, you just, like, all, all the way that, you know, Josh Sweat is in the fold, and you have Nakobe Dean, like, you know, you just have all these younger guys that you're bringing along, it does make sense that Asana Reddick could be on the way out. So I think that, that, that fits. And then Breach, look, the second one.


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[Assistant] Quite frankly, uhm, just for timing purposes, I'll tell you, this would have been mine as well. Uh, Sully, what, what your pick for all season dominance, I think it-


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[Assistant] I think it is the most important domino in the all season. I know it sort of mandated, you know, we saw Ryan Wilson did it on Monday. I saw Daniel Jeremiah did it on Tuesday. Of course, like I'm mad because like I'm filing my mock draft on Tuesday and it's already been done by two other, you know, more prominent draft guys on a national scale, but some kind of draft trade, uh, most likely by a particular team, right?


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[Assistant] I think the McCarthy thing, you could also add this into sort of that fold as well. It's like, how high can JJ McCarthy boost his stock? Adam Schefter was on NFL Live last week.


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[Assistant] And I thought like he wasn't as hype as he was with JJ McCarthy. And I think that's definitely on purpose because there was no chance he was getting Andrew Luck. Like no one was getting to one because that's where Andrew Luck was going. But JJ McCarthy is in the number five wheelhouse. He can't trade Justin Herbert. Like you would, you know, you can't trade Justin Herbert and draft JJ McCarthy. I think that would.


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[Assistant] It's the Reese's College All-Star Game. April 5th on CBS Sports Network.


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[Assistant] All right. I love the owners meetings. You get great audio from all of these coaches.


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[Assistant] Uh, the, the, the Biltmore out in Arizona. You sit down with the coaches and you have breakfast, actually one year. And I think it was Phoenix. We were at the breakfast, the coaches meeting and we're like.


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[Assistant] And, um, and we're like, well then rank the coaches, rank all 32 coaches here tonight, today, rank them and publish the list. You don't want to, you won't do that because you're worried they're going to see it. They're going to get mad at you. Like we were like Hugh Jackson is going to berate you. And like, they just went all in on Pete. Pete actually ended up ranking the coaches and I want to see if I'll see it. There's a great, he, he said,


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[Assistant] Let's create a new rule of our own because we got some new rules that came out of the owners meetings. Actually pretty, two pretty important ones. Uhm, but we'll make some rules of our own. This new rule segment is brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. Uhm, okay, I'm going to go with, uh, I'm going to go with the rule. I'll start off and I'll go with the rule that actually


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[Assistant] Was, I think, kinda close to, actually I think they were saying it wasn't close to passing. And that was, instead of trying an onside kick, you get to try a fourth and twenty.


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[Assistant] You, if you convert the, cause the odds of a fourth and 20 are really freaking small. You convert the fourth and 20, and then do you get the ball where the, where the, where the play ends? Because like, what if you hit like a, you know, ADR touchdown run, or is it just, do you get the ball back and then you have to do a drive? I think that sort of stuff would be interesting. Maybe that's what makes it too convoluted for these NFL owners to deal with, but like,


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[Assistant] It needs to be similar to what the onside kick would be like. Right, exactly. That's why I always think you get it like wherever, like you start at the 30 and you get it wherever the play ends or they get the ball at midfield, which is kind of like where, you know, because you're saying, all right, we're going to give you the ball at midfield with a chance to put this game away.


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[Assistant] Cause you're, you're basically taking with this new kickoff rule if they go with it. And it's also possible, we talked about this last week, but it's also possible that, uhm, they end up, it ends up being like a preseason trial thing where they test out, cause they have no data, data.


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[Assistant] Maybe consider not doing it if they're not doing it. But yeaah, I'm with you. I think, I think if you do the new kickoff rule, you need to find a way for, like, there needs to be a way for teams to try to get, reasonably get the ball back late in games. And I don't think the NFL wants to take away the excitement of this sort of stuff.


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[Assistant] With the, with the extra point, did they do the preseason trial and then move it back the following year? Is that right?


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[Assistant] What would be spicy with that too is if you get a, let's say it's a fourth or it's a third and nine.


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[Assistant] Uh, you're down four points. It's third and nine. You're in 50 something range. Do you have your quarterback run a kneel down to get, it obviously depends on the time of the game, but knowing like, let's say it's like it like late in the third quarter.


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[Assistant] You have to get four points or more. Do you feel more confident in your ability to like pick up the first down and get a touchdown with 12 seconds left or like just drop back, take an E, call timeout and try and kick? So what would be the?


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[Assistant] End zone is 10 yards and there's a, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you could, so if you were, if you were on the, I'm just trying to do the math, like if you were on like the 35,


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[Assistant] Down for? You could, you could take it, you could like just, you could take it like.


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[Assistant] Like how often those occurred, like the, the underthrown incompletion that ends up being a 50 yard first down. It is really frustrating. It's like Joe Flackett was the king of them. But I wonder if you could do a thing where in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you would have a lot of defensive backs just grabbing onto receivers and yanking them down on any sort of longer play, which is something that you don't see in college as much. And I think it's mainly because coaches don't like aren't


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, it's like, if it's like two guys fighting for the ball. But who gets it? You're an obvious.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this new rule segment is brought to you by FanDuel's Sportsbook Make Every Moment More. We actually do have a brand new rule.


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[Assistant] That we, uh, I, I think Harry may have get to that, but I won't talk about it really quickly just because I think it is important, um, the, the, uh, the, uh, oh God, what's the name of the rule? Just, uh, tackle.


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[Assistant] Hip drop tackle, thank you. I completely forgot about my brain went blank. Um, NC State Brain again. The uhm, hip drop, hip drop, hip drop tackle has been banned. And the issue is, is like,


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[Assistant] In the announcement about all this happening, and like the leaks out from the NFL media insiders, you know, who work for the league technically, and you can sort of read between the lines on some of the reports that have come out, is that, you know, they're like, the officials believe that they can correctly, you know, adjudicate this rule on the field.


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[Assistant] Do you, I mean, now I actually think it will be, I think this particular rule will be easier than a lot of the other rules that maybe we see in terms of the officials managing it, because to me they're very, like we saw it with the Mark Andrews play, right, where Mark, I mean, that was sort of the turning point for it when the, you know, a team in the AFC, you know, they get them back in the AFC Championship game, but like,


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[Assistant] One of the best teams in the league loses one of its biggest stars on a tackle where it does look dangerous when it happens.


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[Assistant] To me it feels a lot like the horse-collar tackle where it's going to be obvious.


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[Assistant] But I also think it's insane to suggest that the league can throw something else onto the official's plates and that they're going to be perfectly fine handling it when they can barely handle games as it is right now.


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[Assistant] Like over, like almost a year, well, at least, at least like for the entirety of last season, that the NFL, and I think through even like the year before, it was like the NFL is very clearly going to ban these type of tackles.


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[Assistant] A lot of times we saw cases where NFL coaches were forced to use their first challenge to correct an obvious officiating mistake.


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[Assistant] To fix mistakes, officiating mistakes with their challenger sometime. If that's the case, you should be rewarded with an extra challenge for having to do that.


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[Assistant] So you see back a third and a fifth in the 2024 NFL draft. Uhm, a little interesting here.


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[Assistant] That they, they turned to the Titans, obviously, and it's interesting that they were willing to.


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[Assistant] Get back a third round pick, Tennessee's third round pick and a fifth round pick when they would have likely gotten a third round pick in terms of compensatory picks next year anyway.


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[Assistant] The way that the compensatory works is, Ligeria Steve would have left next offseason.


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[Assistant] Cause the Titans don't have a remaining third round pick in the, in the 2024 draft. That's why I was wondering. Yes. There's 2025 third round pick. Is it the fifth round pick in, both the picks are in 2020.


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[Assistant] With a compensatory formula, Legerri Snee would leave next offseason.


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[Assistant] They would get a compensatory pick in 2026.


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[Assistant] Because the formula is another year down the road because you actually have to do the formula based on...


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[Assistant] Could be, if they never tagged him at all, they'd get that pick in 2025.


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[Assistant] Yeah, late route, late round pick has never been a free agent and probably wants to get paid for the first time in his career. He's already won two Super Bowls. I mean, we had this argument already.


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[Assistant] I think I saw that too. Uhm, yeah, the point, yeah, point being is like, you have Steph Gilmore, you have Xavier Howard, you have Trudevius White, uhm, you have, uh, I'm checking who else is out there.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying that they're better than Snead or anything, but you can go get them potentially for, uh, you know, for much cheaper and you get that pick.


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[Assistant] That's a much more succinct way of saying what I was trying to say. Thank you, Breach. Alright, let's take a break. When we come back, Jersey bracket time next.


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[Assistant] All right, time for some Jersey bracket action. We're going to rip through our own bracket here. Uh, Harry has laid them out. I think it's just sorted by division. Yeah. So.


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[Assistant] Too much work to try and like seed these out to the, you know, the number one seed and, you know, I think Harry did a great job, I believe, of setting it up where it's one verse four.


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[Assistant] Yep, because you see, yeaah, I believe that's correct. It's like, first, first, it's based on standings in the NFL, right? So, we can push these guys through as we want, uhm, I do kinda like the idea that, uh, that they're all, the pods are seeded by like the, like somebody's gonna merge in the Elite 8 from, you know, the AFC West.


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[Assistant] Four ACC teams in the Sweet 16. Next closest conference, five. There are three.


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[Assistant] If, if we, if my bracket stinks and NC State makes it to Sweet 16, albeit a shout out to my buddy Bradford Steeden. I don't know if you've listened to the podcast, but Bradford, uh, actually has NC State winning it all in our, in our bracket pool. He's the only one who did it, which is.


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[Assistant] You know, B's to the, to the W, uhm, or, or really, really stupid. But the one thing that annoyed me about Bradford's bracket is he, he had NC State beating, I think Houston, maybe Duke, I can't remember.


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[Assistant] Like, have us play Carolina in the final. Like, you're going to win the bracket if State wins it all. Like, you're probably going to win the bracket if State makes the finals because you're going to be the only one with that. So like, why not, why not give you that?


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[Assistant] Sean Quinlan in second place with Arizona.


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[Assistant] And Chris Bell in second place, tied for second place. They have 50 points with Yukon. A lot of Yukon, um, people up top. Yeah.


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[Assistant] John Miller, the next closest individual champion with Duke. Christian Richard has a high team of Purdue up there.


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[Assistant] Oh, Randall Bozzini, ouch, has St. Mary's winning it all, and it's like top 10. That's a tough beat. Uh, Darren Bolesky has uh, Houston, the top Houston guy at number 8 as well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright, we got a matchup in the NFC style. We got a matchup of two 16 seeds in real life in terms of uniform. Uh, it is the Buccaneers against the Panthers.


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[Assistant] So I'm not going to sit here and pound the table for him, but I mean, it's not like the Buccaneers are, you know, blowing, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, you'd be surprised that I don't like Carolina Bull.


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[Assistant] I do love, it's unfortunately a great color. Okay, Saints and Falcons. Falcons actually...


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[Assistant] Is it Arizona that launched in New Jersey that looks just like the Falcons jerseys? I mean, I would probably just lean towards the Saints just because of like the iconic gold and everything that goes with it. I don't like the Saints as a team. Maybe it's because of Derek Carr and like Davis Allen, but I think the Saints jerseys are pretty cool.


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[Assistant] And it was just such a bad team for so long that it was hard to get into it. I would pick Lions here for sure. I think the Bears, uhm, yeaah. I like the Bears Orange Alternates. I think those are pretty cool. But Lions for me is the easy pick.


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[Assistant] Oh my. Okay. Packers, Packers and the Vikings. I don't know. This one seems pretty easy to me. One, I don't really care for purple uniforms. So that's.


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[Assistant] But it's hard to argue with their jerseys. Uh, Eagles and the Giants. I mean, again...


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[Assistant] I don't hate the Giants uniforms. I don't really like the Giants. I don't love the uniforms, but I do think they're pretty traditional. But the Eagles, Kelly Green, what are we doing here? This is a slam.


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[Assistant] Do we have, uh, I don't think we even have an upset yet, do we? Like, I mean technically, I guess technically it's not really. I mean the next one's gonna be all the time. The next one will be interesting. Alright, we'll say Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Or like whatever the, you know, whatever the seeding would be, or I guess it would be like one through eight on each side. Like the Chiefs and the Broncos would have a case to be two high seeds, you know, like.


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[Assistant] Like you, like, you would probably have like Chiefs versus Panthers and Broncos versus Buccaneers as opposed to those two matchups. Um, but obviously impossible to, to really.


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[Assistant] I mean the silver and black, like when I think about like various, like people signing with the Raiders.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, breathe, hold up your helmet. But then, I mean, it's hard not to love the Chargers uniforms.


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[Assistant] Like I should hate it, but I don't. And then like the dark blue, I even dig, and there's a lot to like about the Charlemagne uniforms. I do think the Raiders have a case that they're obviously much more iconic.


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[Assistant] Alright, just for the record, I would go with the Chargers too. I think, I think the arguments are all right there. It's like the 2-1 seeds here. It's just, you know, group by division. Uh, moving like Jaguars and Titans. Uh, the Texans and the Titans in the next matchup there in the AFC.


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[Assistant] Uh, and again, we've got, uh, the Charger's first technical upset, by the way.


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[Assistant] Texans and Titans, this is the opposite of the Raiders and Chargers. I don't really know, I don't really flip a coin, I guess.


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[Assistant] My beef with the Titans is that their throwbacks are awesome, but it's the Oilers, the team that like, you stole out of Houston. Like I can't, I can't. You see, you know, like, uh, freaking JJ Watt tweeting about it incorrectly. He's like, uh, we should wear the Oilers uniforms. We are in Houston. You are the franchise that took the Oilers out of Houston to Tennessee where there is no oil. So I'm going to, I'm going to vote for the Texans here out of pure ridiculousness in the


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[Assistant] And look, if you, if you give them the Oilers jerseys, I mean, my guy, like, Derek, I mean, Derek hit me, and there's a really cool, that's a hot one, but I, I, I don't, I don't give him credit for that. Jaguars and the Colts. Again, not a, um.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Do you like the teal? I think I like the black with the, with the, the all black that Jaguars can wear and like they can do some fun stuff with it. But generally speaking, I'm not a huge fan of the, the Jaguars overall vibe.


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[Assistant] Because I like what the Ravens do, like even though I don't like the purple, I said I don't like purple jerseys, I think I like the Ravens, but I'm a big fan of the all white.


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[Assistant] Uh, the white tiger that the bingos wear. I think that's kind of sexy. You also have the black and the orange combo and then the all orange. I actually might lean towards the bingos here.


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[Assistant] You know, like, it's like, it's so, it's, the Raiders are the rarity there where the, you know, the iconic, you know, the, the Raider, the Raider logo. But it's like, I like when you can say, oh, I know what team that is, without having to have like,


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[Assistant] Browns and the Steelers. Do we dock the Steelers for the Bumblebee Jersey? Or the Bumblebee Jersey, Sully?


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[Assistant] I mean, pick a team, pick a team on the NFC side, did they beat the finals of this? And you're like, oh, I'd like to watch that game. Right. You know, there's not a lot, like, you know,


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[Assistant] I might, I mean, I think I lean towards Buffalo, but I mean. It's not tough at all.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, Bills, uh, we've seen them wear the Rads. Bills Rads are great. Patriot Dreads are really good too, by the way.


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[Assistant] Do we throw producer Harry under the bus here? I love, I love the old Dolphins logo, like the old Dolphins helmet logo, like the damn arena Ace Ventura era.


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[Assistant] And Buccaneers and Saints in the next round. Uh, I think it's gonna be tough to argue for an upset, uh, by the Rams. Creamsicle would probably be the biggest argument I have for the Buccaneers. I think I'd probably move 49ers and Saints ahead here if I was joining. What say you guys?


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[Assistant] Alright, 49ers and Saints advanced, but it sounds like 49ers is pretty easy for us, and I love the Rams, but I mean, the Niners are iconic, and then, um, you know, Saints, Saints, Buccaneers, like I think it's Buccaneers or Jerseys have gotten a lot better recently, and, and certainly the critical throwback is great. Lions versus Packers. Tough one here. Green Bay's Jerseys are...


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[Assistant] Packers and Eagles on the AFC side, Chiefs versus Chargers.


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[Assistant] I just think, in the Texans versus Colts, man, uh, I think you can just do so much more with the Chargers. The Chiefs are really steady in everything, uhm, obviously they want to go back to back Super Bowls.


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[Assistant] I do like that it's like the divisional matchup because it's like, it feels like these teams do hate each other.


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[Assistant] I think I would still pick the Bengals. I know I sort of faltered with the Ravens early. I was just sort of thinking about the like LeVar Jackson running around and like the Ravens all black. But the more like you guys got me thinking about all the variations you can do with Cincinnati. I like that. I also am repulsed by the Bumblebee.


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[Assistant] Steelers uniform, and it drives me crazy whenever they wear it. So I'd definitely dock them points for that. Bill's Dolphins.