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[Assistant] And they have an owner and some people there who are smart enough to go, wait, we got this guy boop all in, right? Where we always complained about Green Bay where yeah, the GM and the coach are kind of king and


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[Assistant] You know, they maybe not have supported their unbelievably most talented quarterback we've ever seen in the history of the sport in that conversation. Maybe he doesn't get embraced in Green Bay like the way he would have if he was with other organizations who had an owner to realize how special the guy actually is, right?


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[Assistant] That's only because I know what he's still capable of, right? But yeaah, it's great to see I got enjoyment out of knowing the public is going to see how


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[Assistant] What makes this guy work and how revered he is by the rest of football.


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[Assistant] Where it's, it's an all factor, right? Aaron Rodgers like a Mahomes or a Josh Allen, you know, more Mahomes right now cause he's, you know, the greatest thing we've seen here recently for sure. But Aaron Rodgers the same way where


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[Assistant] Like when he warms up, you're like, damn, I gotta stop what I'm doing and watch warm up a little bit. Cause he's gonna throw a few balls and a few throws where you're just gonna go, holy crap.


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[Assistant] Is that real? They're gonna wipe your eyes, like I say, and go, wait, am I seeing that clearly? And that's where they're all kind of seeing it right now, right in person.


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[Assistant] You know, yeah, I'm sure Aaron Rodgers didn't want it. Yeah, I mean, they don't want it. They don't want the camera there all the time seeing everything about you. But once they got stuck with it, they embraced it. And that's what I love. Yeah. Salah was great. He's being himself, right? Rodgers is great. And then the other thing that did the show, Nathaniel Hackett, you know, it's


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[Assistant] It's the greatest piece of pub he's gotten since he was becoming the head coach of the Denver Broncos. Excuse me, I'm burping my coffee.


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[Assistant] You're getting emotional about this. Uh, well, I, I mean, uh, no, I'm not getting emotional. I did, I was emotional last night watching it. I really was. It was so exciting and like, joy. It was really cool. But then to see Nathaniel Hackett and, you know, again,


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[Assistant] There's all this negative stuff, and I know it didn't go perfect in Green, I mean in Denver, but damn.


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[Assistant] You know, they showed you what makes him special. Why I loved his dad. He has some of those same traits. You know, it's energy, it's tough love.


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[Assistant] It's okay, now I don't even need the tough love. We're buddies, whatever. Oh, it's back on the football field. Hey, screw you, make that play. You don't know what you're, you know what I mean? It's just the right balance there. And I thought it painted him in a really positive light as well, which, which he deserves to be because to me that's the truth in Nathaniel Hackett.


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[Assistant] That really is. I know last year was bad, I get it, I'm not trying to make an excuse, but for the body of work when Nathaniel Hackett's been his whole career,


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[Assistant] Yes, you're gonna see that, you know, and then he's like, like I told you.


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[Assistant] His attention to detail in the offense and being a master of the west coast offense and the mechanics of it and what it takes to run it the right way at the quarterback position. Listen, he's, he's as good as they come in that department. You know, being the head coach is hard. It's not always the same.


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[Assistant] And sometimes guys like that change the way they are a little bit because they think, wait, my quarterback's like me acting like this, but I'm not sure the defensive tackles and linebackers might like this. So they try to act a little different. And I think maybe he got stuck in a little of that and whatever, you know, it's not an easiest job as everybody likes to make it out to be.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and he certainly didn't do his best, but he's a damn good offensive coordinator quarterback coach. I know that. Alright, so maybe I'll sign up for the first time in my life. Please do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right. I mean, paraphrasing, you're exactly right. That's what it is. He basically laid out yesterday that, yeah, guys were coming in, there was a concern about how intense Eric Miannemi is. He told them, hey, go talk to Eric Miannemi, do that. He then went into explaining how, you know,


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[Assistant] He and Jack Del Rio and BNME all act a little different. He talked about Del Rio because he was a head coach, maybe knows how to adjust the players a little bit more and made the, you know, insinuated that BNME is like, Hey, this is the way you do it. And that's the way it has to be done. Right. And within that, it kind of looked like Rivera was maybe


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[Assistant] Either saying to be enemy through the media, like, hey, maybe you need to bend to the players just a little. See, like for sure he was agreeing with the players that it is intense, it is different. Or he didn't back up his coach. Which is what I would say.


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[Assistant] Th-th-that's where, you know, Florio was right to say this, and this is what we were saying, where you'd go, no, no, no. That's where you go, well yeah, Eric Bienemies coached, you know, the guy who's won the MVP twice, and they've been in the Super Bowl three of the last four times, so we're just gonna listen to him and take his lead on the offense side of the ball, where we've been, quite frankly, shitty since I've been here. Right? Nothing special.


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[Assistant] And that's, that's what I wish he would have done. Now he's came back today and had a press conference, you know, before practice or whatever, to kind of put, you know, the toothpaste back in the bottle a little bit to explain that he handled that situation the wrong way.


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[Assistant] Oh, and it's fanning the flames or giving oxygen to the Eric B. Enemy negativity bullshit that's out there. Right? And that's what I don't like. That's what I don't like. You know, that's where...


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[Assistant] He's, there's no BS in, in Eric Biannimi. I don't know him, but I know enough people that know him. Nothing. He's gonna tell the owner and the GM exactly what he thinks, not what they want to hear so he gets the job.


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[Assistant] Right? And that's where I think he's tough that way. He does keep it real.


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[Assistant] So, good for Ron Rivera coming to do that. But what I said and what I'll continue to say...


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[Assistant] You know, one, the players don't know. They don't know. And first off, a lot of players, I said this to you before, they don't know what the really good teams or the Super Bowl teams, how hard they work and the sacrifices they make to get to the Super Bowl and be that team all the time.


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[Assistant] That's what they don't know. And there's nobody in Washington that's been a part of a team like that that's at least a part of their leadership group with their football team where you go, oh well he's been there and they won Super Bowl, he knows how this goes. They don't know. They don't know what they don't know. That's really what it is, right?


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[Assistant] Do you think New England was up there baking cupcakes and watching movies for training camp? Do you think that's what they've been doing? Right. No! It's torture! Borderline torture training camp!


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[Assistant] And it ends up to borderline awesome parties when they're in the Super Bowl every year. Right? Right? Andy Reid has forever been famous for running tough training camps. It's brutal.


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[Assistant] But what are they? They always come out of the gates hot. They're always ready. They're always physically tough. Mentally tough. In shape. Not a ton of injuries. It's because he's old school that way. Right? You know? I don't know. That's where I go, like, that's where players have to adjust, re-adjust themselves. See? Like, like,


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[Assistant] How do you think Nick Saban's running an easy camp down there in Alabama? No cupcakes. You think Kirby's smart? Right? Right? Oh, right. The teams that are winning the national championship every year. Right. They're actually famous for their coaches being dicks and being hard coaches.


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[Assistant] That's, that's part of football. Football's not supposed to be comfortable. You're supposed to be uncomfortable.


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[Assistant] To continue to drive you to be detailed, to work, right?


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[Assistant] Belichick made Brady uncomfortable his whole career, to where at the end he was finally like, damn, I mean, I'm only the greatest quarterback ever, can I get a little comfort every now and then, right?


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[Assistant] I mean, Bill Walsh won two Super Bowls with Joe Montana and was like, eh, two years weren't that good. Let me bring in Steve Young. You need a hot poker up your ass. Let alone he was a jerk to his staff, his players. And I mean that in a positive way. I'm not saying a jerk.


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[Assistant] Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys. You think that was easy?


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[Assistant] We hit Bill Walsh. We hit Belichick. You think Chuck Knoll and the Pittsburgh Steelers? I never saw the guy smile for 10 years. You think him and Terry Bradshaw? I mean, he tortured Terry Bradshaw. Bradshaw talks it to him to this day. That's the way it goes. Right? Vince Lombardi. I don't know.


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[Assistant] Kinda seems like he's famous for being kind of a tyrant and a, and a, you know, he rules with an iron fist.


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[Assistant] Football is that type of sport. That's what it takes. There's a lot more success stories of that kind of guy than the guy that, hey, we're just cool and we let them be chill or whatever. Like yea, you might have a team win the championship every now and then like that, but more times than not,


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[Assistant] The season is about being more uncomfortable than comfortable. Even when you're one of the really good teams, you still feel uncomfortable. And that's where Washington's adjusting to a culture that they haven't seen. And I told you before the damn show, I said,


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[Assistant] There's more clips of Eric Mianemi yelling at my homes and cussing him out in the sidelines over the last five years than there is of any coach cussing anybody out in Washington. So that just speaks to it.


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[Assistant] There's a fine line, and you can go too far, right? I understand that. You know, if you're always gonna be the evil dictator, and always find the negative, and always just crap all over guys, and then maybe sometimes where it crosses the line, you start to crap on them personally a little too, that's where it can cross the line. But like, the guys I mentioned have a sweet spot, right?


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[Assistant] You know, they're like, I would have, I bet you if there was, if Jonathan Allen or Doron Payne were on the offensive side of the ball, they wouldn't have said anything. They wouldn't have been it. Cause they've been like, what? This is what Nick Saban does. I led the college football with sacks and he told me I stunk and I needed to work harder. Right? You know, that's where it is. And really


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[Assistant] I feel like you can go to all sports and almost look at it that way for the most part, right? I mean, Magic Johnson was sick of Pat Riley because it was just everyday grind session. We got to get better hard practices, all of it. Even though they won five championships together, it was a grind.


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[Assistant] You know, there's just something to that. That's all I'm saying. And I think the enemy is just, you know, bringing an intensity that they're...


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[Assistant] Not a wear up. And Ron Rivera, I don't think is like that on a consistent everyday basis. He's a really damn good coach, but I don't think that's him. So, the coach, he's even different than the rest of their staff, right? Andy Reid's probably got a bunch of psychos, right? Cause that's what he's got.


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[Assistant] You know, and, and the same thing with, with Belichick and those guys. They usually have guys that are a lot like them. This is a guy that's outside their, their realm a little bit. So I'm sure everybody's a little bit like, holy shit, this one guy is crazier than the rest of the staff. And man, he's on our case about everything.


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[Assistant] I mean this is the time you want to be as hard. Set the tone. This is changing culture. Yes, I agree with that. And it's not always pretty, and it's not always easy, right? But, but, you know, as soon as they start to have a little success, and hopefully they do, and they start to see some of the results on the field, they'll buy in.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I wish, I wish we were able to back him up, and then, these players.


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[Assistant] You know, again, this is a little bit, hey, college football, everything's become save the player, don't practice too hard, don't hit, let's, ooh, we gotta watch player safety, player safety, player safety. And what I'm saying is, I think we've gone overboard in those departments.


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[Assistant] To where now, we're doing a disservice to the player by not pushing him, getting better physically, mentally, nor is he getting the worker and football shape that he needs to, and that's why we're seeing a rise in injuries, right?


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[Assistant] You know, I had this conversation in the NFL rules meeting last week a little bit.


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[Assistant] Just a little bit bringing that up. And I know some of those people in there, they have said the thought around the league is a little bit.


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[Assistant] That the lack of practice and the lack of intensity is leading to the more injuries in football because you're not ready to go. The guys are not physically and mentally ready to go totally the way they were maybe back in the old days where yeaah, the rules were a little lax and you could drive guys into the ground a little bit.


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[Assistant] There's some things that, yeaah, I mean those receivers they got, you know, they've improved the O-line. They would definitely be on that short list of teams that I'd say didn't make the playoffs here, but, you know, wouldn't be shocked if they're in that convo in late December.


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[Assistant] One is Derrick Stingley, the corner, who was the number three pick and did not, you know, look that way last year.


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[Assistant] And that's where, you know, you'd want to see that. But I think the one I'm more interested in, and I think this is kind of an obvious one if you're a Houston Tech student, is John Meachie. Meachie, Meachie, Meachie. John Meachie the third. I think it's Meachie, right? Meachie or Meachie? I was saying Meachie forever and I think it's Meachie. I think I'm wrong.


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[Assistant] But that's the guy I'm looking at. You know, one, I think their own line is pretty solid. Their running back is the real deal. Weapons?


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[Assistant] On the offensive thing is, on the offensive side is, is what I question. Guys that can make splash plays really on both sides of the ball are what I question a little. And hey, Robert Woods, we know he's a good receiver and hopefully he's another year removed from the ACL and he looks more like he did when he was with the Rams. You know, Nico Collins, a bigger type of receiver.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I worry about lack of firepower for CJ Stroud when he becomes a starting quarterback. And with, with Meche, right, he is a true slot guy. And this is an offense that I know, like, knows how to use the slot.


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[Assistant] Shanahan, he understands that offense and what they're doing down there is that.


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[Assistant] That they're gonna know how to use that type of guy and certain past concepts, let alone, you know, some of the reverses and speed sweeps too. So he's the guy I look at to go, where's he at after bottling, battling, you know, some of his cancer issues. He's got, he's out on the other side. He's clean.


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[Assistant] We're happy for him and we're rooting for him. And I think if he can kind of show up in this offense throughout the preseason and be kind of a go-to guy for CJ Stroud, I think he'll do a lot for their offense overall.


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[Assistant] See, that's a comment that says it isn't been that great lately. He's gonna be great. He's got a motor! Right?


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[Assistant] They're like, that's not the things you hear from freaks, usually. I'm just gonna say, they usually like, when there's a freaking camp and stuff like that, they go, oh my gosh, there's nothing this guy can't do. This guy's a big freak. And you hear all that type of talk.


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[Assistant] I'm not doubting that won't happen, right? I wanted to, he was definitely on my list, right? I'm trying not to pick rookies because I know that, but yeah, he's certainly, we gotta watch him. This is the 49ers defense, which we know is predicated on the front four getting there and he's their Nick Bosa.


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[Assistant] And that's what I just questioned. And I hope he proves me wrong, as I always say. But I just questioned whether that type of explosive ability is there. And we'll see. Uhm, but, but yeaah, definitely gonna have my eye on him. There's no doubt there. You never kissed your butt, did you?


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[Assistant] Will they show up? You know, what the problem too becomes is because if that doesn't go well, they're gonna start to go, whoa, damn, Derek Stingley wasn't good first year, and now Willie Anderson's not good, and then starts to put it on like, you know, are they evaluating guys the right way? And it starts to become, you know, a thing.


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[Assistant] Hello? I guess? You know, I'm, I'm, yeah, I think. This AFC is so good. I guess, I guess I shouldn't be that surprised. I guess there's, there's one team I look at maybe that maybe should be lower, but we'll get into that later.


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[Assistant] You know, this one was fairly easy for me, as far as like narrowing it down and going, wait, this guy has got to go to the next level or show up in one specific area. But it is, it's quite a pay.


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[Assistant] Could he pay is the guy I'm gonna look at from University of Michigan. Hey, good motor. Stops the run.


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[Assistant] We didn't get him to do that. We got him to get double digit sacks and do all that stuff. And as a pass rusher, yeaah, there's still more meat left on the bone there.


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[Assistant] So, that's one where, yeaah, I look at that one specifically to go, that could change their team around, right? Their D-line is pretty solid.


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[Assistant] Now it's, hey, draft pick, you gotta, you gotta show your stuff here and start to make your presence known. And again, a defense that's very similar to the one we just talked about in Houston where they don't wanna blitz, they wanna rush four, they wanna drop seven.


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[Assistant] They want to play their Seattle Cover 3 and do that type of stuff. That's what they do.


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[Assistant] And Lewis is, you know, if you remember, there was a guy this year out of Ohio State, Zach Harrison, who Atlanta took.


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[Assistant] And that's, he's similar to that guy. This is a guy that defends the end, could play de-tackle and be fast and disruptive, right? He could do a lot of things for your defense that would help them out. Uhm, so, he has a chance.


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[Assistant] Here's more offense, start getting comfortable in it, but not overdoing it to where now it starts a negative talk around him. We're all like, well, I don't know what he was looking at there, right? 3 for 10 or something like that. Right, exactly right. So they have to find that fine line and gauge where he is to be able to, because you know, I want to say, hey, get him out there.


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[Assistant] Make him drop back and throw the ball a ton of times. He needs to get work in that department.


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[Assistant] I say that, and as I, you know, think those things when leading up to this conversation, I go, yea, but you also gotta be careful, you know, you don't have him drop back 25 times, and like you said, he's 7 for 25, and now the talk becomes, he can't be your starting quarterback, right? So, that's where they're gonna have to find that balance, but yea, they're gonna try to push forward with the big man, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] You know, off the, you know, the receiver thing is real, right? I mean, the obvious low hanging fruit is Traylon Burks, right? I know that. I get that. I try to be a little different and not always just give the normal school of thought, right? I mean, we all know that you're going to hear that on every show in the world.


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[Assistant] He did. Yeah, right. It started to come up, at least on film, started to look like it where I went, ooh, that's a good route, or ooh, he's getting into some explosion. So hoping he turns the corner there.


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[Assistant] You know, Harold Landry and his health coming off the edge. I mean, before he got hurt in training camp last year, he was starting to look like he was one of the better pass rushers in all of football. So yeaah, he's important too.


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[Assistant] But the big thing I think I still go back to is the offensive line.


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[Assistant] As a whole, would I be like, this is the thing they gotta get back going the right way.


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[Assistant] They weren't your typical dominant Tennessee Titans offensive line last year. They've made some changes there. You got Andre Dillard at left tackle, right? They got Chris Hubbard there, okay? And then they've moved some people around. They got Brunskill from the 49ers, and then they drafted Skoronsky.


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[Assistant] How the shuffling of that old line works and then how Aaron Brewer does making this adjustment from guard to center.


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[Assistant] It's awesome. As a head coach for the Titans. I'm glad you picked this. I'm glad you did. This is a great move by Mike Vrabel.


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[Assistant] You know, one, to get somebody experience, let them do that, right? But two, the biggest thing, like you said, this is what I was kind of, I hit on this yesterday a little with Florio in the morning, is it just, it's, this is a, this is a great example for the rest of the league.


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[Assistant] But they're not in the long lineage of the trust tree of I know this GM since I was five years old or I've worked with this guy back in 1978 and you know this guy and he knows the owner and there's some of them are not connected.


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[Assistant] Like some of the white coaches in football. That's just a plain and simple fact of the matter. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm not saying, you know, it's fair or unfair to the white coaches, but I'm saying it is unfair to the black coaches in a lot of cases.


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[Assistant] And, you know, because of that, some of them are not in the trust tree to ever get the chance to be in front of an owner or be in front of the podium to show you like, hey, look at me.


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[Assistant] I can say and answer and send messages out to the team the right way, just like a head coach. He did that just when they interviewed him the other day when he was talking about the experience. You went, man, look at him.


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[Assistant] Very impressive with how he answered the questions, the messages he sent there. Right? So, now maybe this helps.


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[Assistant] You know, Johnny Owner, who doesn't want a black coach, see some guys on the sideline and go, damn, this guy, look what he's, he's all over the details. Ooh, man, look, he's on the refs. He knows, he looks like he knows what he's doing. Sure. Right. And I think that'll helpfully filter through the NFL and help this problem that we got.


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[Assistant] I'm excited to see him too. I am. You know, I look at him and he could be one of those guys, right?


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[Assistant] Where we go, he's got the potential to be


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[Assistant] That every now and then mid round guy where we go, damn, he's like,


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[Assistant] Awesome in that position. Like Terry McCorran was to the receivers, right? Third round, blah blah blah, right? This guy can fly.


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[Assistant] Alright, and he has some of the traits where you go, ooh, he could maybe play on an island here and be like the real deal. Fourth round pick out of Maryland. Man, Maryland was pretty good in the defensive backfield. Exactly right. I mean, and he ran one of the fastest times at the combine, I believe, Jacory and Bennett. I think he might have been 4-2-9. If not, it was 4-3-flat. It was something like that. So he can go.


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[Assistant] Now he's not my pick, but I think we're on the right page there, or the right


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[Assistant] You know, thing as far as the right conversation.


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[Assistant] You know, there's Jerry Tillery at D-Tackle that's interesting to me. Cause there's still a middle part of their defense that I think needs to be better. D-Tackles, linebackers, all that.


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[Assistant] But then it filters even farther than that. The guy I'm gonna look at, because I'm gonna piggyback off of what our listener said there, attire teacher, is the safety. Okay?


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[Assistant] Trayvon Moorig, alright, the kid that was drafted out of TCU, right? And, uh, what was that, three drafts ago now? Twenty-one, yea. Second rounder. He's the one, you know, got to play more last year. They got rid of Jonathan Abram.


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[Assistant] He and Marcus Epps are now the leaders of that back end or that secondary.


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[Assistant] And yeaah. They drafted him in the second round. He needs to start to pop and show a little bit. And he wasn't necessarily...


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[Assistant] All that impressive last year. So that would be one there where I certainly have my eye on him.


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[Assistant] You know, yeah, the secondary is not something you're going to write home about there in Baltimore. I love the Marcus Peters edition, but yeah, if guys like Trayvon can come through and take their game up another notch or whatever, it'll go a long way to, yeah, make entire teacher feel a lot better about the secondary.


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[Assistant] Right, he's got, you know, we saw abilities at TCU as far as


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[Assistant] Being a very good coverage safety and being someone that can maybe make plays and picks and all that. Uh, so he's the guy I'll have my eye on. I know we all want to see Tyree Wilson and some of the rookies and I get that and we know Michael Mayer. I understand all those but those are guys that are low hanging fruit. We know, we know we're gonna be watching.


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[Assistant] No, no doubt. I mean, and Byron Young, hey, he's a New England-y type of guy, right? This is where the staff is from.


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[Assistant] And he can do, you know, four down lineman stuff or three down two gap stuff, right? I like Byron Young coming out. I would not be shocked if we're here in October and we're going, damn, Byron Young is starting or Byron Young plays a ton and is doing a really good job.


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[Assistant] No, that, that was appropriate. Honestly, I'm surprised the Raiders were.


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[Assistant] You know, what was he? He was a six-rounder, right? Is that what he was? Six-rounder. You know, he did not go to the combine. Right. And, uh, this is one of those that smells of the Patriots having inside info and knowing from a coach and


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[Assistant] They're deep scouting that they knew this guy could be this and fill that role and they got him, you know, in free agency after the draft. But it sounds like he's can tear up the slot like an Edelman or a Welker type of guy right there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you see the quickness there, right? So they have a role. We know, they know how to use that part of the offense. He's definitely, you know, interesting to me. Uhm, I look at, you know,


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[Assistant] He, he, he was on the list just because I've heard him. He wasn't going to be my main guy, right? Another guy just to throw out for food, thought, you know, thought, food for thought, thought food, yeah. You know, is, is, uh, is Josh Ushche.


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[Assistant] Uche is the best pass rusher on the Patriots team. I don't know if he's trusted on the every down basis to set the edge in the run game and do the things that way that New England is, that really puts more emphasis on than most teams in football. So he'd be a guy that I would throw out there.


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[Assistant] And the other guy, the guy that I wrote down mainly and a little bit of this was because of the DeMario Douglas hype and I know Kendrick Bourne I think has had a good cam from what I'm told is Tyquan Thornton. That's who I was gonna go to. You know, we know what Juju Smith Schuster is. We know what Devante Smith is. Tyquan


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[Assistant] Showed us he's got some speed. Is that all he is? Is he going to be a dependable, consistent thing? Can he stay healthy? He's very frail and thin. He's kind of the one that I look at to go, you know, he could maybe take this offense


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[Assistant] And then, if he can, you know, not only be the deep threat, but the guy also that can catch a slant, and you can go, woah.


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[Assistant] Now he's deep down the field after catching this land, right? That's where I feel like I think they're gonna have a good ol' line. I'd be shocked if they can't run the ball a little bit. And that's where I think he could be a real danger or factor for them overall. So yea, he was the guy I threw out there. I also thought of that Marte Mapu.


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[Assistant] Right? Who, you know, they drafted later on in the drought, who was kind of this...


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[Assistant] All around, did everything, uh, Sacramento State guy was like, is he a D lineman? Is he a linebacker? I don't know. He lines up everywhere on the field. He was almost like a Kyle Van Noy coming out of BYU. He's another guy that I was going to say, watch him because I feel like they'll have a specific role that'll be interesting in what he does for that defense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I hear you there. You know, either way, he's good solid all around New England type player. You know, like you just said, he's not as big as a Keon White, but he can play that position. You know, if, if they had a Dietrich Wise and they don't trust


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[Assistant] Uche on second and four, like I'm talking about, Trey Flowers can play that outside linebacker DN spot, set the edge, play the run game the right way. So they're a team that's very much in their versatility and matchups on the defensive side of the ball more than anybody else in the league. And that's where, you know, guys like that have great value to them.


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[Assistant] A lot like a guy they have there already who is on the pup right now in Barrett Browning, right? You know.


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[Assistant] Where you go, wait, they're not these huge, hulking Adonises. These are guys that are like, incredible strength of their size around 240 pounds. Have the strength of a 295 pound man in a 240 pound package, and then have the explosiveness of a secondary player, and then have a bend that, you know, is worthy of a top tier running back. Right?


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[Assistant] I like today because I'm a little bit on the same page as the listeners here. That's my, that would be my pick. Nick? That's the position I'm looking at to go, ooh, if they get something on the other side from Randy Gregory,


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[Assistant] Or if Randy Gregory has some health issues, if they can have a Nick Bonito and a Baron Browning, they're gonna be a handful.


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[Assistant] You know, I went there as my top choices. Also had Josie Jewell. You know, middle linebacker play has not been stellar for Denver. Josie Jewell.


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[Assistant] You know, I gotta think them drafting Drew Sanders in the third round was a little bit like, hey, if he pops here during training camp and kicks, but he maybe takes his job. So that was another one that I certainly thought of. And then Marvin Mims, the guy from Oklahoma, we talked about him. He was one of my honorable mentions a little bit during the draft process because he can fly.


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[Assistant] He was the guy that I think I pegged that I said if there was gonna be a Terry McLaurin this year in the draft, he'd be one of them. He'd be that guy.


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[Assistant] So what's his development look like? Because right now, what I'll say too, with Denver is they don't have that speed guy, right? No, he's slated as a starter. I know, right? So that's, it's kind of cool. And then, you know, the lost KJ Hamler, Tim Patrick's that healthy now, and he's the loss for the year.


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[Assistant] So they're gonna need Mims to have a role in the offense. So I know I just gave five guys, um, but I'm actually really, if you made me pick one, it would be...


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[Assistant] The Nick Bonito. Right? That would be, that would be a two. Got it. The Nick Bonito. The one.


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[Assistant] But like, you know, guys like this, you know, this can, they can go either way with recovery, right? With the ACL. Yeaah. Cause sometimes they're so big and so explosive, it doesn't feel comfortable for a while.


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[Assistant] Or sometimes it's like, well yeaah, no wonder he feels good. I mean, his quad and hamstring are the size of like, you all together. So he's got a great support system for his knee there, right? And uh, he seems to have hit it that way to where, yeaah, it's pretty shocking that he's, he's back and at least pretty close to full effect.


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[Assistant] Obviously the left tackle position is huge, right? They drafted a guy in the first round in Broderick Jones out of Georgia. You know, Dan Moore was the guy that started there last year. That's certainly something to watch for. Alright, so, but again, that's easy. We know that.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with another rookie though, as the one to watch.


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[Assistant] Keanu Benton, right? We talked about this guy during the draft. The Wisconsin D-Tackle. Oh yea. Right? He was one of the guys. I was surprised that the Patriots took Keanu White over him in the draft process. And where I look at it is they need youth and more talent in their D-line.


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[Assistant] They have a guy and where I say I wanna, we all gotta watch him, he's gonna, you know, he's gonna play nose tackle. He's gonna be two-gapping.


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[Assistant] But the good thing about that, the ripple effect of now you don't have to put Cam Heyward there or Larry Ogunjobi there. They can be a little bit more on the edge of the guard or on the inside edge of the tackle where they're really made to be.


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[Assistant] Now this guy can be there, you know, our old mosh pitter, clog things up, you can't move him. I'll just hold this guy here and throw you whatever way I want to.


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[Assistant] So he's the one I look at. And especially when we're talking about


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[Assistant] They don't have the middle linebackers of Pittsburgh years past, right? You know, where they just, forever when we were growing up, the one thing you'd go, the Pittsburgh middle linebacker, he's the man, he's the man, he's the man, right? I mean, we always said that.


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[Assistant] Definitely. He's underrated, you know, de-tackles a position that's one of the hardest for


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[Assistant] I think rating websites to figure out at times because sometimes they don't really know what their rules are or where they're shooting to or whatever else. Uhm, but yeaah, he's a hell of a football player and I would think that


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[Assistant] Yeah, listen, I'm excited about Denver. Vance Jost is a hell of a coach. I think he's gonna get the most


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[Assistant] He has some stuff to like about him. He does. I think it's maybe overall physicality and doing that, but he's, he's a lot like we've seen. We've seen some of these Wisconsin guys that come into the league who just


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[Assistant] Hey, have a little bit of a natural way about them as far as finding the ball.


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[Assistant] You know, having instincts. Uhm, but we'll see. I know there's a lot of hype about them. There's a lot of people that believed in them coming out in the draft process. And the fact that Pittsburgh takes them always makes me go, oh, they see something and maybe I should have saw more in the evaluation process.


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[Assistant] Right, yeaah, Kendrick Green, but, you know, will he...


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[Assistant] Be a starter is I think the thing that we need to see here. I don't know if he will be right now, right? Kendrick Green was a guy drafted a few years ago and thrusted into the lineup because they didn't have a good offensive line. But,


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[Assistant] They have James Daniels there at guard, right, who was from the Chicago Bears, and then of course he's not starting over Isaac Ciamullo, who just came from Philadelphia. So Kendrick Green, yea, I think is not going to be a starter, but is a good guy to have as a backup, and yea, maybe they find him a role to be the goal line fullback to kill some people that way.


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[Assistant] Six, seven, something like that. I think it was, yeah, maybe more than that, I think, you know. But yeah, you, you put him and Fryermuth on the field and then you get that old line working and you got two tight ends to one side.


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[Assistant] You know, right off the, you know, the, the butt of maybe a Broderick Jones and Isaac Siomula. Good luck on that left side trying to stop that crew right there. He is going to be like having an extra tackle in the game. He's going to have the gronk effect in the run game where you're going to go.


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[Assistant] Damn, our tight end is like having an, it's like we brought in jumbo package, like the third tackle off the field to help us in the run game. And that's gotta be exciting, you know, for Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't have a number of guys here, and I think this a little bit speaks to their team, that jump out to me to where I go, ooh, you know, I gotta see something here or there.


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[Assistant] There's one, there's one guy that really jumps out to me. And of course, this was, you know, a little bit of an issue with their team last year anyways. They couldn't stop the run.


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[Assistant] So they gave Dalvin Tomlinson a ton of money, right? They were trying to get Javon Hargrave. They got outbid by the 49ers. So then they turned their attention to Dalvin Tomlinson.


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[Assistant] I'm not worried about him, I'm worried about the guy next to him. Jordan Elliott, right? Jordan Elliott, his guy I liked in the draft coming out four years ago from Missouri. You know, his little bit of a tweener guy. He's a three technique. He's a disruptor. Do that type of stuff.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't think he's had a ton of starts. I think he's finally started to start a little bit last year and get into the mix there. But yeaah.


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[Assistant] I think has a chance to be that disruptive, mess the play up type of guy. Uhm, but we haven't seen that a ton. So is this the year that he kind of breaks out?


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's see what it does look like. It does. You know, him in the draft process is, you know, one of those guys where


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[Assistant] Didn't make the list or anything like that, but it was like, I don't know, is he a D-End? Is he a D-Tackle? What's he gonna be? How are teams gonna use him? It seems like the Browns are gonna use him as that, you know, interior disruptor as of right now. But yea, with the current status, I think that's a good pick by you. You know, this is a team that,


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[Assistant] Is definitely, we talk about Jordan Elliott, but then I would question, yeaah, some of the depth and the talent of the depth behind that front four. And that's gonna be something I think to watch, you know, throughout training camp here.


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[Assistant] We know we want to see, uh, you know, um, Walker, uh, their first pick of the draft, Trayvon Walker last year. We want to see him, you know, grow.


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[Assistant] Devin Lloyd, the middle linebacker, same thing. Cause they have just such great potentials, you want to see them reach it. But this one's really easy, right? It's O-line. It's O-line related. They lost Joanne Taylor in free agency. Cam Robinson is suspended early on this season.


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[Assistant] Brandon Scherf probably had his worst year as an NFL starting lineman last year.


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[Assistant] They need Walker Little, their net left tackle who's coming in to save Cam Robinson. He's the guy I'm watching. He's a guy that I had great hopes for coming out in the draft a few years ago. He didn't play that last year at college, hope all, cause of COVID. Right? I think that might have messed up his trajectory a little bit.


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[Assistant] Right, so that's where I wanna see what he's got.


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[Assistant] I think that'll go a long way. Uhm, and what it'll do too, how good is he? Blah, blah, blah. If he's really good, and now let's just say Anton Harrison on the right tackle, he's not quite ready for, you know, prime time yet.


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[Assistant] Who I think is a little raw coming out of Oklahoma as a first round pick anyways, could benefit from that. So yeaah, I want to see that because, hey, they got a franchise quarterback, we know they got some weapons, they want to run the ball and be balanced, and uh, if they can't protect number 16, then all that means Jack Diddley squashed.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, that's gonna be the big question. You know, you can put me under the category of, I was a little surprised they paid him like that.


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[Assistant] I, I, I really was, you know, again, good, but I wasn't sure if he would definitely be in their long-term plans. But yeah, I think that's, that's, that's a good one to watch. You know, him and, and Roy Robinson Harris in the middle there,


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[Assistant] Uh, and, and, and then occurs our, what's our, Farakasi, right, who they signed two years ago up in the Jets. Yeaah, they, they gotta be a little dominant. I mean, if you look at the Jaguars last year, one of the things that was a little disappointing to me was


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[Assistant] They're run defense at times. I just thought, hey, they got a lot of big people and people that I just feel like they should have been better. I think they came along at the year, went along, but you know, there was times in the year where I was like, damn, they're too good to be letting teams run on them like that.


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[Assistant] Yep, I'd definitely be watching him. You know, again...


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[Assistant] I think this was an area where they're looking Kenneth Murray. I don't think this has been as good as a first round pick should be. Right? They got rid of Drew Tranquil.


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[Assistant] They signed Eric Kendricks. I don't know who's coming to the end of his career but still a good player.


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[Assistant] He's gonna have to have, either be exceptional or one of those guys not be their best, uh, but he'll get some runs. Definitely a good guy to watch in the preseason. Get a gauge for where he's at in this whole conversation. Uhm, like, to me, this is one where I did cheat.


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[Assistant] That team, you're talking about a team that's got that type of, you know, hype around them?


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[Assistant] And they're the 28th run-stopping defense in football?


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[Assistant] Like come on, that can't be, that can't go on again this year.


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[Assistant] Right? So, yea, Austin, Austin Johnson, when he's back healthy. Sebastian Joseph Day. Right? You know, the middle linebackers we just brought up. To me, it's all about that area right there. There's not a lot else to look at in the Chargers.


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[Assistant] The secondary, when JC Jackson's healthy, is gonna be really damn good. The pass rushes are good. The O-line is really damn good. The receivers are really damn good. The running back is damn good.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're creative. They're creative. They ask their guys to do some, you know, things that we talk about a lot, you know. Hey, you go from this gap and when they snap the ball, I want you to get over to that gap, right? It's not always the easiest that way.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and yeaah, Morgan Fox is one of those tweeners. He's like, athletic, D-tackle, big DN, right? He's listed as a DN. I wanna go...


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[Assistant] I don't know why, because he's not the DN. I mean, more times than not, they're playing a four down front and Khalil Mack and Joey Bose are the DNs, right? So Morgan Fox then gets kicked inside. And yeah, it's something to watch with this group. I do think there's a lack of big people.


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[Assistant] On the interior part of their D-line that I think is worth watching as we go forward with the Chargers, and I think I've been saying that for the last year or two.


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[Assistant] You read that wrong, but either way. What'd I say? I got you. You said Zay Jones. We've all made that mistake. Man, I think you made that on the last podcast. On Monday, I said Zay Jones, and you're like, you mean Zay Flowers, right? It's my bad. I'll take that one. Yup, alright, good. Uhm, but yeah, I've only heard good things about this so far.


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[Assistant] It's all I've heard. Yes. So, they, they, I think they got something here. And, you know, again, too.


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[Assistant] Guys like him are usually more suited for the NFL than college. They know how to put them in spots. The quarterbacks are better.


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[Assistant] This is another team you look at and go, what's not to like about this position or that position or this position? I mean, they're all freaking awesome.


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[Assistant] The only thing we question and what we need to watch, one, because we know they'd like to run the ball a little bit more, right? Mike McDaniels has said that throughout the off season.


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[Assistant] You know, again, predicated in the Shanahan offense. He got two pass happy last year. We have a quarterback with a concussion this year.


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[Assistant] Right? And we got some people and Austin Jackson who was a first round pick who was not lived up to that. And you know me, my thing is always follow the money, follow the assets, right? Those things have to be performing for your team. Here's one that's not.


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[Assistant] So can he hold it down at right tackle here? Can he show that he is truly going to be one of their tackles for a long, long time?


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[Assistant] It's, it's him, Liam Eichenberg, another one in the guard position, right? But that, that, it's offensive line related. And those two are the two that you look at to go, they have the most to improve. But, uh, specifically Austin Jackson's the guy I'm looking at, especially if you want to hit two, I mean, uh, Tyreek


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[Assistant] I was not, and you know, it was a tough one too because the year before his last year in college, he gave his...


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[Assistant] I want to say a bone marrow transplant and really took a lot from his body. So he was one of those where I was like, man, the tape's not that great, but I know he's been through a lot here and maybe this isn't his best stuff, but we've not, we've yet to see him kind of get to his best stuff and hopefully this is the year. The big butt to watch for me. I'm going to go


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[Assistant] He's awesome. You know, he, he deserves to be paid here at some point and, you know,


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[Assistant] He didn't have as good a year as Quinnen Williams did last year, it was a special year, but he's in that conversation with all those guys for my money, let alone he does all the right things in leading the team, he hustles, all of that, right? Uh, so I would think he's gonna get something in their ballpark at some point during the season.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would too. It's close. It's close, definitely. You know, let me see the rest of this look here. I mean, the rest of this list. Don't give it away. Well, I know. Raven's Jets. Well, you know we haven't done the Jets yet, right? Out of those three, this is tight.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's close. I know. It is. I, mmm. Man. That's why the AFC is just so tough. It's insane. It is. It's absolutely insane.


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[Assistant] Like I've said before, and I know I said this to you, this is a year where somebody in the AFC could win the Super Bowl and they won't make the playoffs, right? Where you're going to go, woo, they got hot in the last six weeks.


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[Assistant] You know, they got healthy or whatever else, and aww, they missed the playoffs, but man, if they got in, watch out. Uh, I feel like this has got this all over it. That was my Detroit Lions.


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[Assistant] You know, we didn't get to see the route tree. It goes into all that crap again sometimes that I just think is a little played out in the scouting community.


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[Assistant] I don't even need to watch him. I already know that shit's gonna be good, right? You know? To me it's one thing with the Ravens. Ravens are a Super Bowl caliber football team. We've said during the off season, think about what they did last year. They were on the one yard line about to go up 14 points against the Bengals in Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] You know, with the backup quarterback, edge though is what I'm looking at. The defensive edge. And, and specifically I'm going to throw.


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[Assistant] You know, two names in here, or just one maybe. Odafio Way, right? That's the one I'm gonna look at. Because he's, it's time. He's gotta start to be a force here.


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[Assistant] He or David Ojabo, right, who's right behind him, who they drafted out of Michigan and had the torn Achilles during the pro day, right? Yeaah. One of those has to pop up to be a force on the edge of the defense.


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[Assistant] You know, we're not sure. How good are they gonna be? We know Jadevion Clowney and we know what he can be.


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[Assistant] He had a lot of hype in training camp last year. He did really well. I think he hurt his ankle early in the year. And hey, when you're 330 pounds, you hurt your ankle. It can hurt all year long.


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[Assistant] So we'll see. His potential is better than any of those guys he's got in front of him. He does.


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[Assistant] So yea, that'll be, if he reaches that potential and they can trust him to do the right things, yes, in the perfect world, you'd like Travis Jones to be the starter and Michael Pierce to be the backup guy. That's what they would want to be.


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[Assistant] You know, Michael Pierce, we know what he is. He's a big run, stop, and guy, but he doesn't add a lot to the disruption department. I like your pick with Travis Jones. It's a good one to watch. He's got something to him to where, you know, he could be one of those guys in a year or two where you go, oh, he's one of the better detackles in all of football.


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[Assistant] I honestly, I'm not gonna lie, I'll be a little surprised or disappointed if Rokyusen beats him out. I know what Rokyusen is, uhm, and he's solid, don't get me wrong, but yea, Jalen Armored Davis is, he's certainly a guy that I was, you know, on my list here and you know I'm a fan of and rooting for him. We're down to the final four, New York Jets.


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[Assistant] That's true. You know, I think this is one where he's gonna go, you know, let me get the nerves of being the Jets quarterback and, you know, let me, you know, the fans going crazy when I'm standing, just get it all out of the way, right? Let's, let's, let's knock some of the newness off of this, knock the shine off, get in the huddle when the things are real here. I think that's, that's probably


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[Assistant] You know, the one that, that, uh, I think he might play more than years past is my point there. Uhm, okay. I think we're here with this one. The guy I think we need to watch is Jermaine Johnson.


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[Assistant] You know, I know I brought him up Monday.


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[Assistant] But let's see where this is at. Again, he's a first round pick.


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[Assistant] You know, it's year two. He should be the starter. There's no doubt about that. So let's see, can he win the starting job? And then from there, can he do more than just be a starter and start to be a force off the edge? So that's where I look at that. You know, Carl Lawson, I don't think he's a long-term answer there at that position, right? Uh, Jermaine Johnson is...


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[Assistant] Right, who's more of a bigger D end, not your typical pass rusher type of guy, crash end as they might call in the NFL in some, some offenses. But yea, Jermaine Johnson is where I look at it to go again.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean he is, he is, he is an extremely impressive pass rusher. I mean that's what he is. He's a pass rush specialist who's got an incredible explosion and can get after the quarterback and he's always going to be in that rotation there.


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[Assistant] He is a guy, as we talked about in the process, that was under-evaluated because he played out of position. You remember at Iowa State, I was saying, they're making him two gap. He's playing defensive tackle at 242 pounds. That just showed you his strength overall. So, yeaah, he's the one that, uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, he's getting to do what he was supposed to do now. He's just getting to go and get the quarterback, get upfield. I mean, he's like, you know, did you watch him in the, in college? And I was like, yeah.


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[Assistant] I was like, I was trying to tell everybody this. Don't evaluate sacks or plays in the backfield with this guy. I mean, he's, he's more than that. And, uh, yeah, I think he'll be a guy from, by all due accounts, it sounds like he's, he's coming up the rankings. The other guy too, just to throw about too.


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[Assistant] Safety position. Tony Adams, right? He's beating out Adrian Amos right now.


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[Assistant] As the starting safety for this team. Yeah, that'll be big too. You know, they're, they're, they got


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[Assistant] They, they, they, you know, Marcus May, Lamarcus Joyner, some of these guys they've lost over the last few years. We don't really know what they are at that other safety position. That'd be another one to watch. Number 22, Tony Adams. And his name came up on your pregame show.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Devin McCourty mentioned him because I think there's some buzz around, you know, camp about him and what he's done and I don't think they expected him to be the starter. Got it.


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[Assistant] Three elite teams, right? This is, you know, you categorize this and I'm a little surprised that they're behind the Bills. Me too a little bit. You know, I'm a little shocked by that. Bangles though.


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[Assistant] They fall into the category of like, there's not much to look at to think that things aren't, you know, we know the O line, we'd like to see it be better. I got that. I think it will be. This is safeties. The safeties are the, they had a special pair of safeties.


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[Assistant] The last few years. Jesse Bates and Von Bell were quietly one of the better safety duos in all of football. That's why this defense was so good. They were versatile. They could put a lot of pressure on those guys. That's the system Lew and Aruma runs up there. They'll continue to put pressure on their corners and safeties. I think they can do it, but we gotta watch it.


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[Assistant] One, we know, Dax Hill, who we loved two years ago coming out of the draft and from Michigan, he was the, he's Jesse Bates. That's who we compared him to in the draft, remember that? So that's why they drafted him. And then the other guy, Nick Scott. I'm a huge Nick Scott fan.


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[Assistant] He got lost in the shuffle with the Rams a little bit because they have a lot of stars on that defense, right?


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[Assistant] He will be a guy that I promise because this team is going to be in a lot of big games this year where people are going to go, man, who is this crazy 33 running around the field hitting like he's Ray Lewis or flying around?


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[Assistant] He is good in coverage and he for his size and an incredibly aggressive tackler. So again, cheating once again as I am, Chris Sims, but you guys got the gist.


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[Assistant] You're exactly right about the front four. It's tops in the league, but they rely on them a lot. They need, they could use a little more depth in guys to, to spell them and keep them fresh late in games.


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[Assistant] You know, especially when, eh, you're gonna play some teams in the AFC who are gonna have some big behemoth offensive lines. I mean, we saw that. The Chiefs have that.


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[Assistant] The Ravens have that. You're gonna have to deal with the Browns, of course, have that, right? So that's where you like, you know, hey, Joseph aside to take the next step. Zach Carter, who played a lot for them last year out of Florida, was really good.


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[Assistant] And then you add Miles Murphy to that, unlike we talk about with all great teams. They really have like seven or eight D linemen, right? And that's what the Eagles did to people, is what the 49ers have done to people. They can just send waves of people at you.


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[Assistant] He's already in the ceremony. Well, he's got that type of talent. I do believe that. He has hall of fame talent.


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[Assistant] I'm not trying to be creative. We'll see if he puts it together. But like I said, when we saw him, I thought, damn, we haven't seen a tight end run and run routes like this. I mean, this is Travis Kelsey-ish, except it's even more physical with the ball in his hands after the catch.


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[Assistant] And even a better blocker than Travis Kelsey was coming out. So I'm excited for that too, but I'm going to corner here. I'm going to corner and...


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[Assistant] You know, Caiar Ilham is the guy I'm gonna choose. I also want to throw Trudevius White in that conversation.


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[Assistant] But, but if I have to go one, it's Kyrie Elam.


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[Assistant] He was beat out by a six rounder last year in Benford, right? Out of Villanova, Christian Benford, who got hurt and then injuries in the secondary.


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[Assistant] Made Kyra Elam the starter. He looks the part, it looks like he has all the physical abilities, right? Holding too much, a hair too stiff, whatever, but they need more from him this year. And that, and Trenavius White, it'd be the same thing. Trenavius White was a liability.


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[Assistant] The last half of the year last year. And I know he came off an ACL and had an injury. So will he look more like the guy we saw before that? I think those are huge to their football team.


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[Assistant] You know, the way they play, they, you know, wanna play quarters, some quarters coverage. A lot of that is like man to man on the outside for those corners when they do that. And, uh, yeaah, they were not the best in that department last year.


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[Assistant] Big year. Big year. Gotta shine. They need, as we've talked about, some other guys to jump on the scene, right?


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[Assistant] They do. And they, you know, have the potential here. They do. I look at it that way. I mean, when Von Miller's back, it could be Von Miller, Leonard Floyd on the outside, you put Gregory Rousseau in the middle with Ed Oliver, and that's the group you got going after people. You know, but yea, Eponesa, Boogie Basham, right? Uhm, Shaq Lawson. They all, you know,


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[Assistant] I mean, he had some flashes last year, he got more and more comfortable as the year went on, but I don't think it was still up to my expectations, or even the Bills. What they saw in training camp, the hype there, all that, what they were thinking, I think was more than what they got.


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[Assistant] So hopefully he's in a more comfortable spot in the offense this year and can let his physical talents just show.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, cause he was a guy I think that was on the radar at Clemson that was always going to be a first round pick type of guy, right? And then he's had injuries and issues one after another.


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[Assistant] You know, and now he's in Kansas City and people are going, oh, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, watch this guy. Whoa. So he's, he's getting it. I mean, I agree with you there. Those are two guys that we definitely want to watch, but I have one more that's important to that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's this thing called, we have to protect the franchise. Uhm, his name is Patrick Mahomes, and if we don't protect him, we're not as good. So, I'm going to look at the left tackle called Donovan Smith, who was not good last year. Not.


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[Assistant] I mean, and it would be way worse if they called holding on him ever. I mean, he only had 74 holds in the Saints Monday night football game that wasn't called the last three drives of the game, right? And remember us making a big deal about that? It was an underwhelming year for him.


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[Assistant] Kansas City obviously sees something. Andy Reid's kind of a savant with offensive lineman. And...


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[Assistant] You know, this could be the kind of place where they get technique back, right? You know, you get, just like we talk about with Rogers and quarterbacks and other re-energize, right? Man, this team, this culture, I got to hold up to their standard, all of that. You know, I'm very interested to see what he looks like. Cause I will say when they.


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[Assistant] You know, Orlando Brown gone, okay, they got Jawan Taylor, that's cool, but then they lost Andrew Wiley to, and Free Agency to Washington, and they went Donovan Smith, they went, ooh, man, they're taking Donovan Smith, ooh, okay, ooh, ooh. So, uh, I, I wanna see how that experiment goes.


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[Assistant] I like it. And I think you're right. He is the best one in the game right now. You know, Aaron Donald will probably be motivated to shove that up where the sun don't shine to you. But yes, he's, he's phenomenal and they need him. They know that they're going to break their own rules about giving, you know, third contracts to a guy that's about to be 30 because there's just


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[Assistant] There's nothing to look at him right now and go, ooh, this is going downhill.


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[Assistant] He's one of these physical freaks where we're gonna be here at 33 and still go, damn, he's still in the, you know, top conversation for D-Tackles type of thing.


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[Assistant] They need him and I would think they're gonna work it out. I just am interested to see how they work it out. What they do. What is it that they do to the contract? How do they make it work? Is it a gigantic signing bonus? Is it fake years at the end of the contract? What are they gonna do? They gotta do something to please the guy, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] Right, the fact that we get to have awesome college games on NBC, on Peacock,


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[Assistant] And then a filter over to Sunday, where, you know, we kinda dominate the night slot there.


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[Assistant] I think it's really cool for our company. I'm excited because it'll give us more access to Big Ten highlights so when we come to draft we can talk about that.


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[Assistant] I'm getting to announce Michigan, East Carolina week one. You're kicking off the whole thing. With Mike Tirico on a big Saturday, right? So that, I'm, I'm really, uh, I'm pumped for it for the addition to our, our network here. I think it's only positive things.


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[Assistant] He's Belichick. Exactly. And I'm just Brady. Okay. We just follow what Mike says. It's the first time and only time I'll compare myself to Tom Brady. Alright. Alright. Good stuff. You know it. NBC. We got it all coming. Big 10 Saturday night. All season long. Sunday night football. Football night in America.


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[Assistant] Domination. Yeah. That's all I have to say. You don't need the remote anymore. Intimidama domination. Okay, that's what we're gonna do. Yes. Alright, thanks for driving the ship as always today. Absolutely. Ahmed Harid, you are the man. I hope everybody enjoyed the pod. We'll be back Monday. We got pre-season week one reactions. This is awesome. We got real football to talk about.


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[Assistant] We don't have to make up crap anymore, okay? Here we go. Football time is here. We'll see you Monday. Everybody be good. Have a great weekend. Enjoy the rest of the summer. It's coming to an end quickly. Clap it up.


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[Assistant] Yo yo, thanks for watching homies. I appreciate it. As always, the NFL season is right around the corner. So now it's your turn to hit subscribe to Chris Simpson's button. If you want to get all the training camp battles, preseason film review, playoff predictions, and much, much more,


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[Assistant] You know where to find it. It's right here. Chris Sims on button. Please subscribe. Thanks again for watching. Peace out homies. See you soon.


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[Assistant] Uh, got to hang out with someone yesterday for the first time ever at our baseball game. Kind of a big deal. Albert Pujols. Oh man. Probably the biggest named, let me think here.


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[Assistant] On Peacock, people say like, oh, what's Peacock? It's the network of Albert Pujols. That's right.


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[Assistant] That's right. Major League Baseball. I should be the tagline now. Super nice guy. He was like so nice. And we were on the same flight.


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[Assistant] Yes, at just this little tiny restaurant, you know, there were like three tables there. Right. And he paid for us. Okay, good. He's rich. He pulled it out. A lot richer than you. 100%. Although I was like Comcast can pay for this, but I didn't say it. Oh, you're right.


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[Assistant] You could have really impressed him there. Save your hundreds of millions.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was like, this was before dinner came. He was like, Hey, it was a younger guy. He was like, Hey, are you Albert pools? He had to confirm. Yes, I am. And he's like, can I get a picture with you? I've always rooted for you. And so he did. He got up and took a picture with them. And then right after that, someone else came up and was like, I don't want to get a picture with you, but I want to shake your hand.


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[Assistant] But no, that's what happens with all these major league players, especially pitchers, but with Albert too.


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[Assistant] It's like you shake their hand. It's like you too though. It's the same thing with you. Your fingers go up my forearm, midway through the forearm. I mean it's just like you guys, like that's the one thing I think for pro athlete, especially pitchers, quarterbacks probably too. It's like the hands. It's like giant hands.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you had a good game? Had a good game, two to one. Two to one. Pirates fans are kinda pumped up. Okay. Uhm, so yeah, the flight back was good. I was like, we gotta get back because I wanna be well rested. Because we are in the top eight. And this is where it gets crazy. This is where it gets crazy. Uhm, or I don't think


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[Assistant] No, it's not that crazy. Is there anything you want to share about your weekend though?


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[Assistant] I guess, I'm sure. I'm always good at entertainment at that time of the night. You definitely are. And you were so swamped this weekend, and we'll peel the curtain back. You said, we gotta put the podcast off an hour. So if you're getting this podcast an hour later on your feed. It's my fault.


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[Assistant] That was a good one there. So some of those faces you saw there, who knows? Maybe we'll talk about them today, but maybe we'll talk about them coming up on Wednesday. Exactly right. Because those are basically the quarterbacks we have left here.


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[Assistant] What do we have? We have two tiers today. We have four quarterbacks, two tiers. We have our first quarterback is in a tier all by himself. Where he should be. Where he should be. Where he probably would like to be. Exactly right. That's the way he thinks about himself. So this tier is called Still a Goat.


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[Assistant] So he was number five last year for you, which was the first time that he was ever outside of the top three. This is how much you've respected him throughout his career. So eight right now is his lowest ranking ever in your list. Pete puts in the narrative around each quarterback for all the quarterbacks here.


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[Assistant] The narrative he says coming from Jets fans probably right now is Aaron Rodgers is the savior who will lead us back to the promised land. And then he goes in parentheses until we start.


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[Assistant] One and three, and then we're all over him. Uhm, no, but I think that is the idea, and he turns 40 in December, and yea, there has been a regression with his numbers, but,


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[Assistant] He's dedicated again at OTAs, he's showing up there, he's trying to learn, and you're disappointed in him partly because you still think he has the talent and he is not trusting it. So, my question would be, can he start trusting it in New York? Is there still something there to show an improvement from what we saw last year?


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[Assistant] He had a thumb injury last year, right? And we saw him holding it a lot of times. I mean, how much do you think last season was injury related? I think it was a little of that.


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[Assistant] Little of that all played into it. Here are the numbers. So first five games and then it was at the end of that Giants game that you hit it on a helmet. Is that what happened?


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[Assistant] Hail Mary, and so the last 12 games, yea, the completion percentage went down.


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[Assistant] The touchdown to interception ratio was worse. Rating went down. So the numbers do go down a little bit, but who knows. It's tough to isolate how much of that was injury and how much he was feeling that. Right.


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[Assistant] And maybe, who knows, maybe he'll add another dimension to his game, because I think we have some video of him running and scampering around in OTAs. Look at this! He's running to the right, you know what, no one open, pump fake!


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[Assistant] Debate out there, whether this, you know, ultimately will be a good trade for the Jets. And so, uhm, what the trade was, was they swapped those first round picks this year, they moved down a couple spots, the Jets did.


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[Assistant] Give up that 13th overall pick and maybe that did come back to bite him cause there's some rumors out there that they had their eyes on an offensive tackle and a lot of them went off the board. Broderick Jones is the name that Pete gives me. I gave up a second rounder.


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[Assistant] They've got a conditional second-rounder next year, whereas he plays 65% of snaps. That becomes a first-rounder, whether he retires or not, I guess, maybe. So it's like, that could be a problem. I did not like that part of that deal.


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[Assistant] What needs to happen for the Jets for this to be worth it? How far do they have to go this year?


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[Assistant] Uh, so if, if Aaron Rodgers just even has an average year, like an average Aaron Rodgers year, apparently he will break many of the Jets franchise records for a season. So his last five years, yeah, attempts are like 550, the franchise record is Vinnie Testaverde in 2000.


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[Assistant] 590 completions. Yeah. So yeah, basically just.


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[Assistant] What Aaron has been over the last five years, although that does include two MVP years. Let's not forget that, even though he might have had a little bit of a down year last year. Um, but yeah, this is probably the best quarterback that the Jets potentially have ever seen for one season.


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[Assistant] In his own tier, still a GOAT question mark, the only other quarterback that you had in their own tier, do you know who that was?


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[Assistant] Jordan Love, his replacement over in Green Bay. And Romeo Dobbs said this recently on Jordan Love. He goes, I think Jordan is a really good quarterback when you go from Aaron Rodgers to Jordan. Aaron was a really great quarterback, but I believe Jordan can do the exact same thing. So I don't really see what the big difference is. Dobbs added.


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[Assistant] Alright, so we closed that tier. Still a goat, question mark. And I won't say the name of this tier yet, because it would give part of it away. It gives it away, right. But we got three quarterbacks in this tier.


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[Assistant] The Leapers is part of it. We can say they're part of the Leapers. You're right. This is Leapers and somebody else. Uh, so we start with a Leaper. Right. Number seven here. It's gonna be a shock to maybe some...


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[Assistant] A good shock or a bad shock? What do you think? Well, you know what? I think coming into this, if people know you, they would have never thought that this quarterback would have gone this high in your ranking. Now, they all think it's still too low, but I think it's a shock for many Eagles fans that we have waited this long to say you're number 7 quarterback.


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[Assistant] Ultimate gamer I've heard you say before. But there was something else about your film watching on him that stood out.


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[Assistant] He took a big step up in yards per game, 40 more yards per game, big step up in quarterback rating last year, he was the fourth.


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[Assistant] Uh, highest quarterback in the NFL last year, a 101 rating, um, great deep ball thrower, five year, $255 million contract extension.


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[Assistant] And this came from ESPN. Jeremy Fowler covers the team over there. Says, they expect Hertz can make another major jump. He has done it every year. They believe he can be one of those elite precision type pocket passers.


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[Assistant] That's right where you have Kenny Pickett this year and like Justin Fields and like other guys who need to...


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[Assistant] He would have been this high on your list. Cause if we're sitting there and you got a draft and you're drafting your quarterback in the first round and sitting on the board, you have Deshaun Watson, you have Aaron Rodgers, you have Jalen Hurts right there.


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[Assistant] His new teammate, Terrell Edmonds, the safety that came over from the Steelers says, man, he's super smart.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he said you can just tell the way he can diagnose a play, what he's looking at, what kind of keys he's trying to check for, and he's trying to eye control the safety so they can get off leverage and everything. He's as advertised, and he goes out there every day with a hard hat on. So basically, that's what I was just saying, right?


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[Assistant] So his running backs, a little bit of a change there. You got what, Rashad Penney? Rashad Penney's there, right? Now with, uh, Deandre Swift. Don't have Miles Sanders there anymore. Sayamulo, the guard is gone. They got a rookie. Tyler Steen is penciled in as perhaps a starting guard now.


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[Assistant] Uhm, uhm, don't worry about it. That's what I'm telling you.


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[Assistant] Well, that's a question too, and so I think that's a good last point on this, is that Shane Steichen is gone. Yep. You know, he was partly the architect here, so was Nick Sirianni, who was obviously still there. Right. But you bring in Brian Johnson right now, and you do have a task this year of, yeah, there are some teams that showed a way to maybe play the Eagles, the Chiefs being one of them in the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Can Brian Johnson bring out a new level to this offense or are there going to be some bumps in the road here early on?


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[Assistant] He's in the Leapers division this year. A Leapers division. Maybe not a leap, but a little bit of a hop. Maybe you can take a hop next year into the top five. We will see on your number seven quarterback, Jalen Hurts. The Eagles fans, there's nothing you can hate in that one.


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[Assistant] So I think a lot of, uh, analysts are on the same page as you, with Trevor Lawrence, and let me...


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[Assistant] as one of the quarterbacks who will go win you a game. He goes timing, arm strength, accuracy, Lawrence outside the numbers. One of the few dudes in the NFL who wear that


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[Assistant] What do you make of that four interception playoff game though? Yeah, well, after things were rolling.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And Doug Peterson thinks so too, as he told you at the combine. And he said on the Rich Eisen show here recently, he goes, I think going into year three.


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[Assistant] You're too with us as a staff. I think the way he played the back half of the season is the way he needs to start this year. There was a lot of confidence with him at the end of the year. That's the next phase. It's putting it all together. I feel like he's that guy, which he showed towards the end of the year. You can put the team.


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[Assistant] On his back. And I think, I mean, he's got a perfect coach. I mean, Doug Peterson is gonna go down as if he can have a run here with the Jaguars and who knows? I mean, this is a good enough team to make a run in the playoffs and definitely flirt with a championship one day. No doubt.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well you know what I like to do. I like to scout OTAs. I make my opinions based off of that. And we have him throwing a long bomb to Zay Jones here in OTA. So there we go. Seemed easy for him. Oh my gosh. Perfect.


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[Assistant] And BetMGM takes us there because we take a look at the division favorites. So BetMGM division favorites for this year as we sit here right now.


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[Assistant] And this is something that I, I proclaimed last year. I'm taking full credit for this one because I was like, the Jaguars are going to be one of the heaviest division favorites in football. Uh, and they're the tied for the second biggest favorite with the Chiefs to win the West.


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[Assistant] The Jaguars also at minus 160, the only team with a higher chance to win their division apparently, according to BetMGM, is the 49ers right now, minus 185.


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[Assistant] You see all those who, if you're watching on Peacock and YouTube, the closest competition second in the division. So for the Jaguars, it's the Titans plus 350.


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[Assistant] So look at that. So the titans are the farthest away.


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[Assistant] From the favorite. Yeah, you're right. They are. That's the biggest gap. The biggest gap between first and second. So I'm claiming victory on my prediction that the Jaguars would be the biggest favorite to win their division this year. But it's not surprising. That's the crazy thing. It's not surprising.


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[Assistant] I was just gonna say that. I'm a little shocked by that. That's the narrowest gap it looks like. The Eagles are plus 100 right now and the Cowboys plus 175.


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[Assistant] So I think that's going to be surprising to maybe some people if they're just listening to this or you for the first time because normally the conversation with Lamar starts with the fact that he's an elite scrambler runner. He can change games with his legs.


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[Assistant] Some of the weapons here too and the injuries. I think those are the two big areas to focus with Lamar here. And the narrative that Pete put in to the rundown was that he is the Ravens. I think that's what most people think, but they also think it's a big contract. He got a.


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[Assistant] Five year, $260 million contract, 52 million a year, 185 of that's guaranteed. It's a big contract for an injury prone quarterback who has not, who is not a great passer. Now you've addressed the great passer thing. You think it's more of the offense, but this is from Juicedverage4.


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[Assistant] And he says, he says, hi Chris and Ahmed, how much stock do you put into availability in the situation of Lamar? Does the fact that he is that electric on the field give him a bit more leniency after missing December and January football in back to back season?


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[Assistant] Alright, so let's go into that. We got a new offensive coordinator here. We got Todd Munkin who was at Georgia the last couple years winning some national titles. Was also an offensive coordinator with Tampa when Jameis Winston was throwing the ball all over. Was there in Cleveland when Baker Mayfield was having his best year. Uh, this question comes from Coach Mills.


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[Assistant] What do you see Lamar's ceiling being with his revamped weapons and new OC in Todd Munkins? So some of the weapons are Odell Beckham is there. Rashad Bateman is going to be healthy. And then Zay Flowers, your number one ride receiver in the draft is now a weapon for Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] So you've already said today, one of the parts that you use to evaluate these quarterbacks is their leadership ability. And Lamar's an interesting case because the players love him. The players want to play for Lamar Jackson. But does he always lead by example? We've heard some rumblings with the Ravens. I'd like to see him.


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[Assistant] Four quarterbacks left, so. We take a look, yea, I think I know who they are. I don't, I know the order, but I think some of the people might. I think most people are going to know. I think they know, maybe. I don't think they're going to nail it exactly right, the four left. And if you're listening to this right now, tweet it, Chris, and give your four and see if we see how many we get nailed it. Um, number one might be.


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[Assistant] Number one might be. Yeah. And, and Tom Brady's got to be in there somewhere because he is emeritus, right? It's like all time quarterback. It's an all time spot in the top 40. Um, so let's take a look at the updated. Do we have it? Oh, there it is.


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[Assistant] So here it is, the two tiers we did today, still a goat with an actual goat. Well done, Morgan. Good job with that. With Aaron Rodgers and then the three are in the Leapers and Lamar category. So out of those, let's even go.


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[Assistant] Top 10. Yeaah. Let's look at top 10, because I don't want to include the rookies and the second year guys in this, but top 10.


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[Assistant] From what we've seen so far, how many of those guys could you realistically think, one day, maybe, could be number one?


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[Assistant] And I think too, 17 Jared goth could definitely be a number one guy. And so does Ted J Rowland who tweets us about my favorite team and quarterback and your favorite team. Uh, and so it's a good way to get into the pod and Pete's favorite team too. Uh, Ted says with.


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[Assistant] Uh, best ability being availability, could a great 2023 for Goff and Jones make them leapfrog Stafford and Lamar in your rankings? Did Lamar bulk up too quickly after his rookie season, making him injury prone? You've addressed that a little bit. He goes, Goff and Jones are tall and strong and without hitting the gym, they might avoid this mistake. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, Goff and, and Daniel, if they can play 16, 17 games, prove that last year.


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[Assistant] Uh, was not a fluke and is just a step in the maturation of both of those quarterbacks? Could they move up?


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[Assistant] Yeah, he is fast. He doesn't want to do that as much this year. He wants to throw for 6,000 yards.


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[Assistant] Okay, he goes, Hey, Chris and Iman, you guys are the GOATS. Why did I skip over this question? If you say we're the GOATS, that's an automatic read. Does the fact that we have never seen a running quarterback win the Super Bowl have any effect on guys rankings like Hertz and Lamar? Is there a cap to how you rank these players?


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[Assistant] We saw, throw a little bit more in the regular season last year, Gino Smith, out west with the Seahawks. Coming out year, Check West C71 says to you, I am not sure if I understand your take on the quarterbacks from 14 to 9 being ahead of Gino, who you had at 15.


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[Assistant] He says, with the exception of cousins who had a great year. So is it more consistent production or the career? What gives? And he goes in parentheses, awesome show though.


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[Assistant] Feels like someone like Jordan Love could find his way into the top 20 in 2024. Why else? Russell Wilson could see himself mixing it up with the rookie quarterbacks. Love the pod all the way from London. Oh, we knew that Oliver. Ah, what up?


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[Assistant] Wilst. Is that how you say it? Yea. Wilst. I guess. Wilst, Russell, well, Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright, so we kinda talked about this last week, and you said, Justin Fields, and you said, come work with me, have you heard anything?


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[Assistant] Okay, so yeah, Jordan Love is one that you've said, and Justin Fields can make a big jump, so maybe it's more of the- I can see Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett, yea. Kenny Pickett.


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[Assistant] Two quarterbacks who will not rise, who are in your top 10.


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[Assistant] I'm just gonna say that Matthew Stafford at 10 and Ryan Tannehill at 16. I'm gonna, I'm gonna make a bet. I'm gonna make a bet. They don't rise. They will not rise. How dare. They are where they are.


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[Assistant] He's still my favorite quarterback. He's my favorite quarterback of all time. I think you're, you're, you're, you're probably safe with that. But it's, it's hard to see how they can move their way up the list, but it's still an accomplishment that they are where they're at, especially with Stafford and his injuries and Tannehill with the ups and downs kind of weapons that he's had in Tennessee.


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[Assistant] Last thing, last thing I want to say, Colombo. Oh, look at you. Um, uh, and Pete said in my ear too, it's like there, there is a little bit of a changing of the guard. We do see some, some other names, some younger names and some of the quarterbacks that have been established in the top five, the Russell Willsons, the Aaron Rodgers. They are dropping down because what it was.


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[Assistant] Lamar was 10th last year, and so it's people are like, Oh, how did he move up to five? It was an injury plagued year. And it was like.


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[Assistant] Well, part of it was he still did some great things when he was out there. Definitely. And the other part of it was a lot of those quarterbacks around him, Rodgers and Russell Wilson and Dak Prescott. They all took a step back. Yeah, definitely. Brady retired, right? Brady retired. But Brady was never in the top 20. Never.


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[Assistant] Boring? Boring? That was the most fun draft ever! It was a lot of fun. What were you doing? You didn't watch me and Ahmet in the barn? You didn't watch me in the little tipsy with the little smokey? I mean, what are you doing? That wasn't boring.


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[Assistant] Yo, yo, yo, yo. What's up? It's Chris Sims. Chris Sims on button. We got a special day here. Of course, we will continue the Chris Sims top 40 quarterback countdown. We're going to hit on a few news items, but most importantly, Connor Rogers is here.


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[Assistant] Connor Rogers is here. He's in style today. You guys know me. I always give a little bit for the listeners. Just a view of what my co-host is looking like today. Fresh cut.


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[Assistant] Perfectly combed as always. Are you a gel? A mousse guy? What are you putting in that? Wax. Wax. You're a wax guy. Yes. Okay. I've always wondered. Very slept on wax. Very slept on wax. Okay. It holds. Obviously. It holds all day. It holds in the Kentucky Derby outside. He's got a little bit


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[Assistant] Those, I know, I know, those sneaks. Those sneaks are cool, man. Had to match them up. Man, you matched them up nicely today. Like, what, you got Packers Jordans on there? They kinda are.