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[Assistant] Uhm, so we'll see about the availability of those guys. And if everybody's healthy and they're in, I mean they're, I think they'll score 40 in this game.


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[Assistant] And then I'm not as confident in Washington covering, but Percet could do it. I mean, he could get them to 30 points. He engineered five straight touchdown drives over the last two games when he came in cold in those games. So who knows what he's going to do in this match up here. And it's not like the 49ers defense has been playing that well either. So.


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[Assistant] The potential for the 49ers to sleepwalk is big road favorites here.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I don't think anybody should be laying the points. If you're going to play the spread, play the commanders. Uhm, but now at 12 and a half, I think the better play is to just take Washington and go over 17 and a half because I'm pretty confident they'll get to 20 points with percentage quarterback.


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[Assistant] If the Lions lose, they still have to worry about the Eagles and the Eagles have very easy matchups the last two weeks. So 49ers cannot afford to lose either game and think that they're going to get the one seed.


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[Assistant] This Jaguar's defense certainly capable of getting routed, uhm, but that Tampa Bay game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Jacksonville offense has been a mess with Trevor Lawrence.


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[Assistant] Healthy-ish, he's been dealing with a lot of injuries. I think they might be better if Beathard starts this game against a beat up Panther's defense that also dealing with a ton of injuries. Just let him go out there and manage the game.


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[Assistant] And win a game by seven or ten rather than having Lawrence get beat up and potentially playing at a lower level that he has been playing at these last few games. Carolina has covered three or four under Taber and Jacksonville, like you said, un-competitive and two straight.


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[Assistant] So weirdly enough, you get these situations where, you know, if, if the backup is in, if the, or the starter's coming in, the line moves up like we saw with Stroud in that Houston game.


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[Assistant] You wouldn't expect, depending on who the quarterback is, that you would be on the opposite side of where the line's going. But that's how I'm looking to this game. I just need more clarity on quarterback before I know it.


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[Assistant] Thanks in part to a pick six. I don't think the Cardinals are going to get their defenses not stopping anybody. 6.3 yards for play against Chicago. Mostly to the run game. Bottom five in yards for rushing, yards for pass. Feels like a really good get right spot for the Eagles offense here.


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[Assistant] And uhm, that, like you said, the Cardinals offense had success against an improving Chicago defense a little bit.


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[Assistant] They could get to 20 points. I'm worried about Kyler Murray dealing with an illness right now. We'll see how that progresses throughout the week.


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[Assistant] the game and he plays through it, uh, that could curb their scoring because he's so essential to what they do offensively. And, and, and I would worry about their scoring if he's not a hundred percent there. So Philly's not winning many games by margin, only two wins by 10 plus all year. So I understand wanting to take the dog and Arizona certainly has backdoor potential if Kyler's a hundred percent.


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[Assistant] So uhm, gonna be looking to the over, maybe looking to the dog, but want to see how Kyler feels later in the week.


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[Assistant] I took Tampa as the best bet. The market liked the Saints. This was three. Once it dipped down to two and a half, I wanted to jump on the Bucks here. They're on a four game win streak, scored 29 plus in three straight. Their offense is getting close to top 10 in yards per pass. And New Orleans defense, typically good against the pass, but played a pretty easy schedule. And we saw when they played the Rams, they got thrown all over last week.


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[Assistant] Uhm, they also have struggled in, in, on the road this year. Uhm, so, when they're not face, and when they're not facing teams like, you know, the Panthers and Giants, which is who, who their defense stepped up against, uh, later this, early, you know, a few games ago. Uhm, the Tampa Bay defense then benefited from four Jacksonville turnovers last week. I'm not convinced that they're gonna have a great game here, but they are getting healthier.


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[Assistant] Their defense did shut down New Orleans in the first meeting. Their car was dealing with an injury and playing through that and he's been playing a lot better now. My worry with him is he's played 20 road games.


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[Assistant] Late in the season, which I define as 13th game or later when I did a look up here and he scored 20 plus points just four times. You just don't expect him to go on the road. And I know Tampa isn't, isn't a terrible, um, weather spot here, but you know, he did play in the AFC West a lot of times. So a lot of those road games, he's not playing in terrible weather anyway.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so, this will be interesting here to see if he shows up in this game. I think Tampa Bay is good enough to win this game by three. I think they're definitely the better team. Uhm, so I would make it, this is around the right line, but I think Tampa Bay.


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[Assistant] To have a good game here, so I agree with this spot. I think a lot of it probably gets to the 80 yard range or so, so I think it's a solid play.


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[Assistant] I like the Seahawks. I'm not putting it in as a play because I expect the market to buy it down to three. And at that point, I want to jump in on the Seahawks while I ingest the three there. Their defense has been pretty good at limiting big plays, but they're not playing San Francisco. They had no past plays allowed over 20 yards the last two weeks. And one of those games was against a very good Eagles offense. So I think they're playing well. They're going to get healthier.


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[Assistant] That Pittsburgh game, you know, react to them having that great offensive day, they destroyed a really bad defense there in Cincinnati, but it was two long touchdowns on, on that, in that game. And they had 4.4 yards to play on the other 56 plays. So you make them have sustained offense. I'm not sure they can do it with Mason Rudolph at quarterback.


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[Assistant] On the road here in a tough environment, I think Seattle is going to win this game by probably at least six. Um, so I think if you want to play three and a half and that's the only thing that's going to be available, go ahead and lay the three and a half, but I'm still going to be strategic and wait until it drops to three and then jump on the Seahawks.


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[Assistant] And I'm going to play the Bengals to go under their team total of 17 and a half as a best bet. Kansas City has a top 10 defense in yards per play since he really needs to march a speck of any shot at beating a quality pass defense. And I don't think he's going to play in this game. Kansas City has allowed 13 offensive touchdowns in their eight home games.


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[Assistant] Just 16.4 points per game in those games, despite facing Buffalo, Miami, Detroit, Philly, Chargers when they had Herbert, you know, a lot of very good offenses.


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[Assistant] Um, so against Jake Browning, I think they'll be able to do their jobs here. Not as confident in the Chiefs offense to play, to lay the seven here, but I do think the defense is going to show up there all of a sudden, the best unit on the team, on a team that has


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[Assistant] Two time MVP Patrick Mahomes, you know, the Chiefs defense is playing better than the offense. So I think they'll do their jobs and keep the Bengals under 17 and a half is the best bet.


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[Assistant] Yeah, even though it's come down to three and a half, like I mentioned in our pick six parlay segment, I don't think it's come down enough because I do think there's a significant gap.


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[Assistant] So I think the market is underrating the drop to this backup here. Uhm, I think it's worth backing the Chargers with them still catching more than three in this matchup. I would make it on the other side of three. I don't expect a Jared Stidham blow-up game. He, like we had last year, he knew that system. He had played with Josh McDaniels in New England. Completely different system here. I don't expect him to just come out and...


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[Assistant] And fire all over this team. So uhm, so I think this is a good spot for the Chargers to get a win here, which is why we threw it in the parlay. But at plus three and a half, I'm still making it a best bet. We got five and a half earlier in the week on Sportsline, but also take it at three and a half.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was two at most spots. It's now kind of mostly one in the market, although I do see a pick on, I see one place where the Packers are favored. So it seems like there is some space for this to move right now with Hall. I think a lot of people are more optimistic with the offense with.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so we'll see who's available for this game. My initial lean was going to, was at the Packers at plus two and thinking that Hall could come in, uhm, because that, you know, they didn't make a commitment to Mullens coming out of that game. And I do like the Packers with Hall at quarterback, but do you want to see them a lot healthier before I go all in on this?


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[Assistant] That Cowboys minus four and a half, the Falcons team total over or under 17 and a half, the Washington team total over 17 and a half.


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[Assistant] Tampa Bay, minus two and a half. Cincinnati, under 17 and a half. And the Chargers, plus three and a half.


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[Assistant] I think, I think the lions and the chiefs are out. Okay.


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[Assistant] And I would say it's between the, the dolphins and the cowboys. Cause the cowboys are playing pretty good ball recently. And I think unfortunately they might beat the Eagles next week.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be one for the ages. Patriots laying six at the Steelers. This total, oh, 30 and a half. It's only 29.


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[Assistant] Patriots catch, oh sorry, it's on here in minus six. Patriots catch in six. So Steelers, uh, minus six. This total 30 and a half. I believe in some books it's already dropped down to 29 and a half. It's, it's, this game is only the real sickos are betting on this game. And by the way, you take it under. Only the real sickos


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[Assistant] Yeah, well watching this, I wanna know, speaking of sickos, right, this is, this is, I, I play the under on this, so I play the under on the, on the Patriots team total this weekend, I'm like, that's what I'm gonna do from here on out, because I'm gonna get you in here in one second, Propstars, but I do wanna say, I wanna know.


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[Assistant] Who would actually lay six points with the Steelers or even give the Patriots six points?


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[Assistant] Maybe it's one of those games where you mess around and you bet that no team will score a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Moving on, Colts, uhm, at the Bengals, this total 40 and a half Coltslaying.


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[Assistant] Two and a half. Uhm, that Colts and Titans game, it was basically a pick-up. I ended up being one of the sharpest lines on the board. Went to...


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[Assistant] Went into overtime. Uhm, the Bengals of course are playing tonight against the Jags. They are 10 point dogs tonight. So this is an interesting game.


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[Assistant] So if they can put up some kind of a fight, they've got T Higgins coming back in the lineup tonight against the Jags. I think we could see some, I tend to think tonight's game is a little bit trappy. I don't think the Bengals win this game, but I'm going to give them the 10 points. So this is one I'm going to kind of wait to see what this Bengals team


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. So tonight is his second start. So I'm just saying, he might be...


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[Assistant] Alright, with that we are going to take a break right here. Stick around for our anticipation plays where we try to beat the line movement for the next week. We'll see you in a sec.


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[Assistant] It's time again for our segment where we give you a bet that you should lock in early before the line moves to get you some closing line value. We also do you one better and try to predict where that line is going to close at. It's time for anticipation plays. This anticipation play segment is brought to you by Fandel Sportsbook. Make every moment more


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[Assistant] Last week we had, uh, Alex had Denver versus Houston. It was 46 and a half total. He said it would go to 45. What did it close at?


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[Assistant] Good. Good. Seven and a half to eight and a half. What did that close at?


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[Assistant] Emory got his line right, he was on the wrong side of it, but you did predict Niners 3 and I think that's where it closed.


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[Assistant] Well, some books were three. I never, I never moved past three. Uhm, I had the Texans minus three and a half went to four. That did not happen. It stayed at three and a half. Uhm, this week,


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[Assistant] I'm looking at this line for the Cowboys and the Eagles. It's interesting because it opened at two and a half. It's already gone up to three and a half. I think it might tick to four. I can't see it getting to four and a half. That seems a lot for me, but I think it could move potentially another half point.


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[Assistant] Uhm, just because the Eagles coming off of huge loss, the Cowboys have been rolling. It was a really tight game the first time these two teams played each other. Now it's gonna be in Dallas where the Cowboys are dominant.


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[Assistant] People love to hammer the cowboys as well, so I wouldn't be surprised if we see a little more movement here.


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[Assistant] I'm the only one that has, for some reason, I don't know why, any kind of faith in Brown. I don't think he's gonna be great, but I think he's gonna be better today. It's just me.


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[Assistant] I won't be surprised if that happens, but for whatever reason...


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[Assistant] I just feel like he's gonna be, maybe cause I just, what, doesn't matter. Uhm, this Anticipation Play segment has been brought to you by Fandil Sportsbook. Make every moment more. Moving on, the Bucks at the Falcons. Falcons like two and a half, this total 39 and a half.


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[Assistant] Both teams coming off of wins. Falcons beat the Jets. Not too hard to do. Uhm, the Bucks also won in a tight game. Emery, what's some matchups that you're looking forward to or what you foresee in this one?


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[Assistant] Uhm, prop stars, I do see that Harry wrote that Justin Fields scrambling might be the difference here. Is this maybe a spot where you look at some Justin Fields props?


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[Assistant] Okay, makes sense. Moving on. Texans lane six versus the Jets. This total 35.


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[Assistant] Uh, and a half Texans coming off a win, beating the Broncos, ending their win streak. What was that, 22 to 17? Little bit of a sweat to cover that three and a half. I would lay the six with the Texans, uh, and maybe look at the Jets team total going under if it's in the teens. Uhm, yes, prop stars.


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[Assistant] It's, you know, it really is my week. I had phenomenal bets and the Niners won, so I am insufferable, I am a menace, and we're just having a good time.


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[Assistant] The 49ers are 4-0 against the Seahawks in the last two seasons, outscoring them 120-56, including a 31-30 win in Seattle on Thanksgiving night.


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[Assistant] Uh, Chris McCaffrey averages 165 career scrimmage yards per game versus the Seahawks, the third most by any player.


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[Assistant] Versus a single opponent since 1950, Propstars.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's keep it moving here. The Vikings laying three at the Raiders. This total forty and a half. Both some, uh.


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[Assistant] Interesting kind of quarterback stories and redemptions for both teams. Emory, who you got in this one?


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[Assistant] It's one bad game though. I feel like you gotta give them another shot.


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[Assistant] Uhm, luck of the turnover margin. Chargers can turn the ball over quicker than anybody else can, so I agree.


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[Assistant] And then, okay, we got Eagles at the Cowboys. This line has moved to three and a half. Interestingly enough, taking the points with the Eagles is at minus one twenty-two. Uh, laying the three and a half. Fifty-two and a half? Is that even money? It's moved again to two and a half?


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[Assistant] I don't, I, I, I don't really know. I do think this line will continue to move. Uhm, it might get up to four, you know, favoring the Cowboys. I don't really have a play on.


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[Assistant] This game, I might wait and see how it settles, but Emory, these are two juggernauts of a team and yes, the Eagles got blown out, but.


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[Assistant] Win like that, or loss like that is healthy. You know, the Niners had three games in a row where they lost, and I do think they come out stronger, but this Dallas team is just rockin' and rollin'.


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[Assistant] Please, please just be a great game too. Uh, sometimes these Sunday night games go a direction that we don't want them to go. That's gonna do it for us today. Make sure you join us all week long for more NFL coverage. Tomorrow, Brinson, Breach, and Wilson are joined by Pete Prisco to break down his weekly power rankings on cbsports.com. One last reminder to hit


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[Assistant] Hello boys, this is the pick six podcast. This is Sunday night, super friends, that handsome devils will, uh, will Brunson.


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[Assistant] That other handsome devil who's recovered from the, uh, Joe Burrow who's done for the year.


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[Assistant] Injury is our guy, Sean Breach. I'm of course, Ryan Wilson. This is Sunday night super friends, week 11 NFL recap, 2023 edition. So here's the plan in case you're new here.


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[Assistant] We're going to hit our top 10 takeaways from week 11. The big upsets, the convincing wins, the suspect quarterback play. Hello, Kitty Pickett. The playoff picture continue to come into focus. We'll talk about all of it first.


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[Assistant] Remember, give us a thumbs up if you're watching us on the old YouTube chat NFL on CBS. And of course subscribe wherever you get your podcast. So you never miss a show. All right, boys, let's get to it. First things first. Where are we going? We are going to Detroit. So Brenton.


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[Assistant] Back in week two, the old lions no showed at home against the Seahawks after that big week one win over the chiefs in a week six, they beat the bucks and follow it up by getting shellacked by the Ravens. Then last week they dropped 41 on the chargers and it certainly looked like they were going to lose to Justin Fields and the bears only to pull it out down the stretch. Thanks to the bears bears ended up.


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[Assistant] All right, Brent, so tell me they're now eight and two, they're half game back at the Eagles, the NFC and have a case as one of the top blank teams in the league.


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[Assistant] Here's what I'm hearing, Breach. Lions fans, you know where to direct your ire when this season goes off a cliff and you don't win another football game, even though you have a, they only face two teams as we sit here with winning records. One is, uh, the Minnesota Vikings 16 and then in 17, they faced the Cowboys. So every other game is 500 or below.


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[Assistant] I was going to ask you, Breach, put, put the odds at the Lions knowing their schedule and the Eagles have a pretty tough schedule down the stretch. What are the odds, the Breach odds that the Lions are in fact the number one seed?


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[Assistant] I think it's a coin flip because, and we'll move on after this, because they didn't show up against Seattle in week two after winning that KC game.


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[Assistant] They didn't show up at all. They didn't get off the bus in Baltimore and part of that's Lamar. We get that. And then they almost lost this game with Justin Fields.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I get it, but it was a nice win nonetheless.


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[Assistant] Alright, way to go Detroit! Blame Brenton when things go sideways. We've already laid that out for ya.


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[Assistant] Talking of teams going sideways, let's go to Cleveland where the Cleveland Browns started, uh, Dorian Thompson Robinson and they started them because PJ Walker is an interception machine. He is a yellow ball that has yet to meet a turnover worthy play. He does not love. So you get DTR out there, had a horrible outing against the Ravens earlier this season.


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[Assistant] Kevin Safanski's like, you know what? You're playing the Steelers. That team does not trust Kenny Pickett to do anything other than to hand the ball off. And he couldn't even do that competently.


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[Assistant] And this was basically the Spider-Man meme breach, uh, two great defenses with two horrible offenses that just, uh, were basically playing in the middle of the football field until the final driver of DTR was allowed to throw the ball down the field, got in a field goal position. Your guy, Dustin, Dustin Hopkins for the second week in a row, got a game winning field goal. And as we sit here.


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[Assistant] I felt like I knew this was coming and I'll just, I'll continue to beat this drum and this is how bad things have gotten. This is not Matt Canada's fault. This is a Kenny Pickett problem. They do not trust Kenny Pickett. If you watched Kenny Pickett last week and last week's game.


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[Assistant] They trust him to throw the ball in the flat. They trust him to throw back shoulders to George Pickens, which Breach and Brinson could do. If you were playing an offense that you just showed up in, they do not trust them. Now the problem is going to be that they're going to be stubborn and continue to play them for two more years and you just have to live with it. But Matt Canada, he should be doing the, uh, who, who, who is the former?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you should go to the Hugh Jackson tour where you just blame everybody but yourself when you get fired because Matt Canada has a case to be made for look man, Kenny Pickett is not an NFL quarterback and that's the reality.


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[Assistant] Well, in this case, he's justified in saying so. But, uh, Bretson, I'll ask you.


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[Assistant] I think Breachwater touched on it and BMAC likes to call certain teams on their way to the playoffs in the way teams. The Browns, Filik and in the way team, but because Deshaun Watson has not worked out, but I think this is still a feel good story for Kevin Stefanski. And I don't, it might even obscure some Browns fans from the whole point about paying $250 million for a quarterback who doesn't play.


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[Assistant] Okay, even Buffalo, who's the, cause the Steelers are dropping out. Who's the other team that's going to take the brown spot?


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[Assistant] The Steelers aren't winning 10 games. The Colts, the Broncos, are they each winning 5 more games this season?


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[Assistant] All right. Rensen has jinxed another team, so two down.


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[Assistant] And the biggest issue isn't the injuries to those other players. Nick Chubb actually is pretty big, but the quarterback play has been subpar and not PJ Walker and or DTR. The Sean who has not played well and maybe last week was a glimpse, but then he got hurt and he's done for the year. So.


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[Assistant] Great, way to go Cleveland, Pittsburgh, there, you put a fork in them, they are done. It's only a matter of time now. The only thing left to figure out, even though those Steelers are still in the playoff hunt, technically, the only thing to figure out is when George Pickens goes crazy and throws Kenny Pickett through a Gatorade cooler because, uh, it's coming and he is


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[Assistant] Not happy, Deontay Johnson isn't happy, body language wise. Maybe they'll say the right things, but it's hard to watch. It is, it is some truly terrible football. Uh, but as someone told me earlier...


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[Assistant] We're on to Cleveland. You don't, you live in Cincinnati, you don't live in Cleveland, Breach. Now though, we're going to Houston.


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[Assistant] CJ Stroud, it turns out, is in fact human.


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[Assistant] Had two interceptions coming into this week. Only two. One came last week.


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[Assistant] Uh, he has put up some gaudy numbers as a rookie. He's playing like one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, but he threw three interceptions against the upstart Cardinals. I think it's fair to say the Cardinals are sticking with Kyler Murray based on eight quarters of his comeback from ACL. He looks pretty good. And, uh, quickly, this isn't about the Cardinals, but I just want to say they currently have the number two pick.


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[Assistant] That's what I said, so you either take phone calls or you take Marvin Harris and Jeter.


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[Assistant] It happened last Saturday in Clemson.


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[Assistant] Trying to read your mind. You're not worried about CJ Stroud, but what does it say about a Texas team that can win when their quarterback isn't playing, uh, like a future Hall of Famer?


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[Assistant] For all we know, Harry is just an upper body. He could be Max Headroom. Like we haven't seen him before.


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[Assistant] Let me interrupt you quickly, because Breach is the Breach bot for 4 trillion. Texans playoff team Breach, what are the Breach odds on that?


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[Assistant] I think he's played well. Breach, I want to ask you a question about this Texas team. Do you at all see any upstart Bengals Joe Burrow coming into his prime in this team? With CJ Straub? Yea, the way the Texans are playing this year sort of.


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[Assistant] I don't even think he's so much of a gunslinger. I think he's actually, those, some of the interceptions you obviously don't want to throw. One of them was similar to the one he threw last week when the Bengals deepened their own end towards the end of that game that the Bengals should have won Breach. But I think,


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[Assistant] I want to stand up for CJ because, uh, we talked to Will Anderson last week on the podcast and, uh, he made a case. I asked him what were his three favorite players from CJ season so far. He spent five minutes talking about how CJ has been such an amazing person and leader. And you sort of get that when you hear him talk post game. Um, also he didn't know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was doing something for Big Brother Big Sister.


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[Assistant] But he didn't, fun fact, he didn't know CJ's full name, so I had to give him that. He was like, uh, that's a, that's a strong one. But I think I get some of the rookie wall conversation, but of all the rookie walls to run into, I think the CJ one is pretty padded and you feel pretty good about it because of everything around them. And as Princeton mentioned, the defense is playing so well.


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[Assistant] I mean, if we're doing on the Josh Allen scale, it should be two to one because the more interceptions that guy throws, the lower his odds are.


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[Assistant] All right. Speaking of one of the MVP candidate, let's go to another one. The young man by the name of Russell Wilson. He's Sean Payton's MVP. Let's, let's start there. Um, terrible last year cost Nathaniel Hackett his job.


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[Assistant] And I was actually revisiting the Nathaniel Hackett hire and I forgot that it was the whole Aaron Rodgers police come to Denver thing that didn't work out. And then everything went sideways. Russ was.


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[Assistant] Plan B or whatever you want to call it. That didn't work out. Sean Payton appears to have gotten the best out of Russ.


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[Assistant] They're in the playoff picture. They're five and five, somehow the same records as the Colts and your Cincinnati Bengals breach. So reach, I'll ask you, it feels like this team is.


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[Assistant] How do you feel about this Broncos team that's on the outside, just on the outside looking in? They're currently 10th.


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[Assistant] And can you win with Russ and can you win with an opportunistic defense who is plus 11, I think in their last four games, by the way, four wins over green Bay and they beat the chiefs.


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[Assistant] And they beat the Bills and now the Vikings, the last three wins over teams that each won 13 games last year, which is mind-boggling.


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[Assistant] They're an in the way team for sure, but I think this is a moral victory for Broncos fans and that Sean Payton has least been able to get something out of Russ and Russ as a 33 or 34 year old.


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[Assistant] It still has training wheels on the bike, which is sort of weird. And he has training was on the back and the front of the bicycle because Sean Payton does not trust him.


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[Assistant] Breach's point. He does look slower. He looks like he's thinking about a lot of things. Last week against the Bills, they had that zero blitz end of the game and he didn't know what to do.


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[Assistant] And so, and, uh, Sean McDermott doubted up a get it. And then rushes throws a yellow ball that gets the DPI that keeps the drive alive. And they ended up winning that football game. It's not sustainable, but they're finding ways to win ugly again, like the Steelers and like the Browns. And you can sort of live on that. But once you get to January, things get a little, a little harder to pull off.


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[Assistant] We're going to talk about producer Harry's team and while Jalen Ramsey.


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[Assistant] Oh, Aiden O'Connell's mustache was not enough to overtake the Miami Dolphins.


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[Assistant] In South Florida, this is the funnest fact of all boys. The Dolphins with two in Mike McDaniel or seven and O with the CBS game crew of Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, and Melanie Collins dating back to last season. This team is unstoppable at home. They dropped a 70 burger on the aforementioned Broncos. Their biggest issue as producer Harry will tell you is playing teams with winning records. But. Branson, I think you're up. They have Jalen.


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[Assistant] Ramzi back, two interceptions on Sunday. I think he has three now. Producer Harry, you can correct me if I'm wrong. Since returning from the knee injury that sidelined him for the early part of the season. Vic Fangio dialing up crazies. Can this team now win against teams that are have winning records, which is going to be an issue they face in the playoff.


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[Assistant] So Breach, they're fourth currently in the AFC. They're top of their division, of course. Uh, I don't think they're getting the number one seed. You can, you can argue differently if you want, but I want to get a sense on the Breach-O-Meter how far into the January football can this team play given that they struggle against teams that win more than they lose.


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[Assistant] All right. One word answer. Who was the division? Buffalo of Miami. Dolphins. Reach. Dolphins.


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[Assistant] Alright, well they fired Ken Dorsey so that was gonna fix everything. Alright, moving on! Jesus.


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[Assistant] Go on to the Pacific Northwest. And I know this is, uh, Brent's wheelhouse, so he can save up for this. Cause I want to come to reach first because this game could have been decided by Jason Meyer's leg. He made a 54 yarder earlier, honked a 55 yarder to end it, just missed it. I think it came up a little short and right.


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[Assistant] Eugene Searle Smith, the third had to leave the game with what looked like an elbow injury. It was wrapped heavily. It turns out that drew lock still is not very good.


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[Assistant] Gino came back in for the final drive, moved the ball pretty well, three of four on that final drive and set up the 55 yarder breach. Uh, producer Harry asks, cause I can never speak ill of Eugene Smith, the third, the Seahawks are frauds or are the Rams actually playoff contenders because the Rams, as we sit here.


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[Assistant] Are the ninth seed in the NFC, uh, three spots behind the Seattle Seahawks who are now six.


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[Assistant] To, to the question about whether the Rams are in the playoff point, Cooper Cup looked to be pretty banged up. He had to leave the game. He did not look happy about leaving the game. So that's also something to consider. Pukka Nikua did pick up the slack as he often does when Cooper's not out there, but that's one of your best players not playing.


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[Assistant] Credit to you for telling that story while leaving your shirt on. That's progress.


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[Assistant] Can you make a case for the Rams being playoff teams or are we, is that ship sailed?


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[Assistant] I don't know man, Tommy DeVito has more touchdown passes than Daniel Jones and Kenny Pickett combined.


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[Assistant] All right. We have time. We'll talk about that in the coming weeks. Producer Harry says onward and upward or in this case forward and downward, because we're going to talk about the old Washington commandos.


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[Assistant] Yeah, things are not going well in the greater DC area and, uh,


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[Assistant] Producer Harry's point is that it's not a matter of when or it's a matter of when not if when it comes to Ron Rivera holding onto his job. New ownership.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's funny because Sam, it's not funny for Sam Howell, but he holds like the, he's thrown for the millions of yards, millions of completions, millions of sacks. Like he, he has every, the lead in every category, some good, a lot of them bad.


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[Assistant] This offense is a hot mess. They got Tommy Devito, which is.


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[Assistant] A phrase that didn't exist until a few hours ago. You cannot under any circumstances lose to Tommy DeVito.


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[Assistant] Big day for Tommy DeVito. He had to leave Syracuse to go to Illinois to play football. Dino Babers got fired today as a Syracuse coach, taking a deep cut there. But, uh, Breach, I think you're up. Uh, Dino. Dino.


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[Assistant] This is like you getting a, an email from your boss that says, wow, exclamation point, you had 27 mistakes in your article. Uh, we cannot let this go on. That's a clear sign. Right. Something's going to have to change. And most likely the person.


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[Assistant] Oh, don't worry about it. He tweets like that all the time. I'm fine. We get nine seconds to lose.


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[Assistant] I would take Tommy DeVito. We were going down the list of quarterbacks I would take. I would have traded for Zach Wilson today to come play for the Steelers. That's how bad things have gotten.


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[Assistant] So Tommy DeVito with their two touchdowns. Give the man his, what do the kids say, flowers?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think we all agree on that. I don't think it's going to happen in season. Breeze, you're not an in season advocate, are you?


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[Assistant] So what if they lose by a combined 50 points going into the buy week? Do you have to fire Ron Rivera then?


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[Assistant] It could be 40 to 10, it could be 25, 25, you can-


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[Assistant] I'm fine with keeping him through the year. I think, I agree. It doesn't make sense to fire someone in the middle of the season unless things have gone incredibly sideways like Josh Mcdowell's. That actually makes sense.


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[Assistant] Shout out to Antonio Pierce for having that team play hard even though they lost in South Florida today.


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[Assistant] Breach. Breach. Brenton has spoken. Alright. Do not fire Ron Rivera.


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[Assistant] All right, Harry, let's take a break and when we come back, I'm gonna end this bad boy with some talk about...


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[Assistant] My favorite lovable losers, the ol' Los Angeles Superchargers, right for this.


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[Assistant] I said if Brandon Staley finds a way to charger this thing up, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets fired to follow up on the conversation we had before the break.


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[Assistant] It's not going to happen. He was incredibly fired up during his press conference. He got, do not ask him any questions except the questions that are on the acceptable list. And those questions have nothing to do with football. Uh, it has to do with personal pastimes and hobbies that include hiking and long walks on the beach.


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[Assistant] So Brenton, I'll ask you this. How do you lose to a Packers team that spent the first 10 weeks of the season not able to score points in the first half?


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[Assistant] And you let Jordan Love play like he's Aaron Rodgers and then you have every wide receiver under contract for the Chargers dropping every pass during the direction, including.


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[Assistant] Jeez, oh pizza, Quentin Johnson, please catch the pass late in the game. And you find yourself losers yet again, four and six.


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[Assistant] If I were Brandon, I would say, uh, his name is Duntavius Wicks. Next question.


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[Assistant] Well, Echler fell down and then fumbled the ball in the red zone. That's one thing that happened. Everyone and their brother drop hat. Keenan Allen dropped a ball that hit him right in the face. It looked literally like this.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's not high. Would you rather make the playoffs and get Jaguars or just miss the playoffs all together and just rip the Band-Aid off as we like to say.


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[Assistant] Uhm. Just daily make it through the season. You just said he has to. It would be a bad look, because that's a great job.


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[Assistant] I'm sighing because can we please quit talking about Bill Belichick who's 853 years old but getting some job and saving some organization? What's your, what's, is he going to the Chargers?


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[Assistant] I don't think so. I mean, there's so many good candidates. Would you rather have Bill Belichick or Ben Johnson coaching the Justin Herbert Chargers? I mean.


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[Assistant] I don't get it. Like, I love old people because I'm in the same, you know, AARP class as Bill Belichick, but let's be real. I mean,


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[Assistant] Man, they ruined Mac, that's the reality. Alright, moving on, let's talk about the AFC and NFC playoff pictures right quick here and then we'll hit our MVPs and get atcha! Alright Brenton, let's start.


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[Assistant] And the American football conference, we've sort of hit on it as we got through this process here. Let's, let's do this. So, so we, we know the teams here. Um, Kansas city, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Miami, Cleveland, Houston, Pittsburgh in order. Give me.


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[Assistant] Two teams, or as many teams as you want, most likely to fall out, and which teams you think are gonna replace them, uh, so are point four and seven.


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[Assistant] So, uh, Rensen put some money on Shane's second coach of the year because breach has called it and he is.


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[Assistant] Also interesting, the National Football Conference.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they just had one on Sunday. They're going to lose to Jake Brownie next week. It's over. All right. I don't want to talk about the Steelers. They're wasting oxygen.


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[Assistant] All right, Breach, you got Seattle and Minnesota at six and seven. They're both reeling a little bit. Do you want to replace them? Stay with them. Switch something else up. The, the NFC South is sort of wide open five and five for the Saints, two other teams at four and six in Tampa Bay and Atlanta. They're going back to Des Ritter. What are you doing?


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[Assistant] And by the way, just so on the record here, Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers are not out of it yet, so keep that in mind.


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[Assistant] Just to circle back to our August bowl predictions, Brenton had the Falcons with the most wins in the NFL, so they have to get into the playoffs and then get on a tear, as he likes to say. Uh, Stafford received at least one MVP vote. He's been lobbying Pete Prisco to make that happen, to make these dreams come true, but the Falcons, excuse me, the Rams getting to the playoffs would certainly help that. Uh, in terms of the playoffs and the NFC for me,


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[Assistant] Uh, I'll just mention this quickly and then we'll get to our, our MVPs. But Breach's bowl prediction before the season, Miami finishes last in the AFC East. Ugh. And Breach had the Titans winning the AFC South.


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[Assistant] We're still in the third syllable week. That's different.


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[Assistant] Alright, in the meantime, uh, Brenton, you have your Brenton VP ready or do you want Brenton to go first?


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[Assistant] Breach, last week we had six kickers with game winning kicks. This week, not so much. Are you going special teams or are you going in another direction?


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, Brock Purdy is five and one against former first round picks a quarterback most recently.


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[Assistant] Mmm, spicy. And the only loss is to, uh, Joe Burrow, who, uh, only has one hand now, unfortunately. Alright, I'm going back to Cleveland. RIP Joe Burrow.


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[Assistant] Go out to Cleveland and give Dorian Thompson Robinson my MVP because huge win got benched after the.


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[Assistant] Rough performance against the Ravens early on in the season. PJ Walker played, Deshaun Watson came back, Deshaun Watson got hurt. PJ Walker got to the bench and DTR came in and did what he was asked to do. Last drive he had to throw the ball. He moved the ball down the field to set up that game when he kicked with Dustin Hopkins. And my honorable mention.


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[Assistant] Jalen Warren, who somehow is the best player on the Steelers entire team, including TJ Watt right now. Nine carries for 129.


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[Assistant] On the sealer side, by the way, if you're running for 129, you get the ball nine times. That tells me you don't know what you're doing as a, as a play caller, but whatever. Shout out to GTR.


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[Assistant] Jalen, Lauren, enjoy the t-shirt. You've earned it. That is it. Boys. That's a wrap for week 11.


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[Assistant] I won't be here, so I'll bang the over.


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[Assistant] All right. Well, that's it y'all. And it's, it's day, it's already Monday. So for instance, Tuesday. So that's, I'm going to take the


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[Assistant] Alright, week 11, Sunday Night Super Friends is in the books, boys. But don't worry!


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[Assistant] You can check out the Pixix Podcasts all week on YouTube, NFL, CBS, or wherever you get your audio podcasts in the meantime.


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[Assistant] Thanks to all of you who hung out with us tonight. We appreciate you from Princeton, from Breech, from Breezer Harry. I'm Mr. Wilson.


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[Assistant] You were in four in 1992. A lot of four-year-olds watch football.


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[Assistant] Welcome to the Pixix Podcast, CBS Sports, NFL Podcast. I'm Will Brinson here with Brady Quinn and Lejia Doosable.


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[Assistant] Ah, yeah. Red wine, red wine, little bourbon, you never know. Alright, let's get moving. Let's get cracking like a fire.


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[Assistant] We'll start today as we often do with the Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] Team had a huge comeback against their divisional foe. The Baltimore Ravens down 14 points late in that game last week and they come back. They beat the, they beat the Ravens despite missing an extra point that would have tied things up. They moved into the sixth seed.


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[Assistant] Sad overcast Cleveland news as Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] For the season, uhm, Brown's issued a statement saying that he underwent a magnetic resonant imaging, not necessary to be part of the statement, but thank you Cleveland, uh, for that.


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[Assistant] An MRI of his right shoulder revealed a displaced fracture to the glute, glute, glute, glute, glute. How do I pronounce it?


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[Assistant] That's it. All season long, the Browns had to point out that despite performing at a high level and finishing the game, I mean, my goodness gracious, like we'll get into this a little bit more. I'm sure.


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[Assistant] Uh, could the rhetoric surrounding the reports of Deshaun Watson being injured be more heavy handed about how he like, it's like, I mean, an absolute warrior out there battling through an injury. It's like, we get it. We get it. You want everybody to think that he's tough.


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[Assistant] He's done for the season though because of a shoulder discomfort. That is tough. What's that?


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[Assistant] And I, you know, I, I know we talked about like the, the way that the Browns handle this too, you can see it with the quotes that are being disseminated out there where it's like, like they re like.


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[Assistant] Dajon Watson's agent or somebody yelled at the Browns like, look, if you're going to, you know, when you announce this, like make sure that you do it right this time. And like, don't, don't like, don't let this get out there because you heard, I think the quote from, um, uh, Andrew Berry was that.


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[Assistant] So, so they have, uh, the Steelers this week at the Broncos at the Rams Jaguars bears at home at the Texans to Sean Watson.


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[Assistant] Doesn't get to play his old team once again versus the Jets and at the Bengals. That feels like a real, that feels like if you got Deshaun Watson playing well, like, all right, this is a, this is a very good chance for like a playoff team and they're going to, they can threaten the Ravens to win the division. Now it feels like.


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[Assistant] They lost their two starting tackles. One of the best, three best running backs in the NFL and Nick Chubb. And now a quarterback who they gave 230 million fully guaranteed billion dollars, 230 million fully guaranteed to like.


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[Assistant] In a former, like, all pro slash pro ball or quarterback. I mean, this is, that's a lot of, that's a lot. If they make the playoffs, Kevin Siefanski should get some coach of the year looks, honestly. Like, yeaah. He's definitely in the discussion, for sure.


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[Assistant] All right. So let's take a break and we come back. We'll talk about the aforementioned.


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[Assistant] All right. So real quickly, uh, and then we'll get into some division winner discussion, but Ken Dorshe fired. Bye.


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[Assistant] Buffalo Bills after losing Monday night on, as you, as you pointed out dudes, it's like.


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[Assistant] Missed the field goal, Bills win, too many men on the field, Bills get a kick again, and Dorsey's fired. The Bills ranked like top five in every.


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[Assistant] Advanced and basic offensive metric this season. I saw it pointed out by somebody that it's almost like.


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[Assistant] Because the defense is so banged up, because the bills are losing, because there's this sort of out exterior pressure being put on the scene. It's like every little mistake the offense makes feels extremely amplified.


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[Assistant] So I think it's interesting to note too that before the season, the bills, uh, amidst all this sort of like the sky is falling, the windows closing kind of chatter out there and everybody, everybody's, I think there's a lot of people who are


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[Assistant] So for whatever reason, like, and I'm not saying you're this way dudes, but it's just like people are like kind of like okay with the bills, like failing and like it all falling apart. Um, but then they gave that contract extension to Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean, but it was like very much like a,


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[Assistant] Prisco says he thinks that the Bills could blow it up this offseason if they miss the playoffs. Agree or disagree?


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[Assistant] Vision winner predictions. So we're going to do some Thursday Night Football as well. We have, we will see if we have time. Uhm, AFC North. Brady. Baltimore.


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[Assistant] You know what's annoying is I've had the Ravens and the Eagles winning the Super Bowl last year and it's plainly going to be this year and I had the Bills this year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I had the lions too. Brady, you going lions? You know what? Screw lions.


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[Assistant] I mentioned the Eagles as my Superbowl pick last year, didn't have them this year, but they are on top of the NFC East. Do they hold on? Hold off against the Cowboys who they have a substantial lead ever.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think that, alright, so we all got, we all, alright, uh, AFC East. I mean, what a, what a wild division. Like, I mean, it's gotta be, like, it has to be.


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[Assistant] Oh, uh, I'll go Dolphins. They have 88% chance to win the division according to the upshot.


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[Assistant] They can win the division without beating a team with a winning record, that's pretty insane. Okay, the AFC West. KC, come on, pick them before the season.


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[Assistant] That's a good point. That would be a good race down the stretch.


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[Assistant] See if it has a time because they're two and over in the division. Uh, the NFC South.


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[Assistant] Alright, AMC South, we're all taking the Jaguars, right? Or does anybody want to take the Texans?


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[Assistant] All right. Welcome back to the Vixx Podcast. OJN football, Bengals and Ravens, a huge clash of AFC North foes. Dudes, what do you think about this matchup?


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[Assistant] Nah, I was wrong about Wake Forest. Wake Forest, uh, didn't give IntiState any trouble. They are quite terrible. Uhm, however.


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[Assistant] This Saturday at 8 p.m. at the Carter Finley Stadium.


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[Assistant] 8 p.m. The final game of the season. It's a stage rally to eight wins of the season. Unexpectedly, quarterback swaps, quarterback leads, MGR leads in the middle of the season.


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[Assistant] The NC State Wolfpack are hosting the North Carolina Tar Heels. And NC State is a dog at home.


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[Assistant] And I, and I'm not sure why neither team is ranked in the AP poll. We'll find out college football playoff poll. But I just want to point out this quote from Philip Rivers, former Chargers quarterback.


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[Assistant] You might not hear much about the game around the country and that's fine, but you're walking to a bar anywhere in the state of North Carolina. You see a guy in khakis is Carolina Polo staring at a guy in his jeans and it's a t-shirt clear the room because it's about to go down.


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[Assistant] There is no love lost between these two schools. Carolina just lost a heartbreaker at Clemson. They got to go on the road back to back weeks. NC state is just, we just whipped up on Virginia tech and the defense is going to quote be salty. According to Dave Doran, take the two points, take the money line. We're going to be to take the alt lines. We're going to beat the snot out of these guys.


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[Assistant] Anybody else want to throw a homorific college football pick out there? Look, I'm here for it. I'm here for it.


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[Assistant] Ole Miss versus Mississippi State, volunteers, Twitterverse, Logic and Reason, Army, Navy, Bama, Auburn, OU Texas, FSU Miami, UGA Florida, Gary Danielson versus SEC fans and Texas A&M versus Sound Financial Decisions.


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[Assistant] A couple of things on that. One, I thought that Justin Fields in particular was the, it's like, dude, where the F has this been? These design runs, these quick design runs and like his, he did a really good job of getting down quickly and not taking a ton of big hits, but it's like, Hey guys, like you're professional NFL coaches. Why did it take you?


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[Assistant] 36 months to figure out like that's the gameplay that you can attack with like get like fields is doing these little quick draws. You point out every he's get there's five yard little five yard carries. It would just like make life easier on second and third down or third and short instead of third and long. And I was really impressed with what the Bears did and how they played on Sunday. I don't Alliance.


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[Assistant] RJ White on our pick show on Thursday said he thought that the three teams playing on Thursday for Thanksgiving, uh, the lion, the three home team or the three teams, the big favorites, the lions, the 49ers and the Cowboys might come out a little slow. He was right.


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[Assistant] Came out lethargic during golf like that crap. Uh, Cowboys were sleepwalking a little bit there against Carolina and then San Francisco. I mean, certainly could have put that game away a little bit easier than they did, but I mean, they still still won by double digits. Um, it's really interesting that green Bay coming into the week against the chargers had a top five pit in the NFL draft.


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[Assistant] And now after that game, they're the number eight seed in the NFC. Like you talk about a wild disparity where if you lose that game, you're like picking third overall. And now you're like, ah,


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[Assistant] Jordan left $300 granted against the Chargers. Uhm, I'm inclined to take.


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[Assistant] The point, but I got to think on this one a little bit more. I think it's more likely to move. Is it seven and a half now? I don't think it's going to come. It will not dip below seven. I don't believe I think it will keep moving up. If anything, Detroit should, I think Detroit comes back and is really focused in this game. So, um, seven and a half makes an intriguing property. Did you have something on this?


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[Assistant] And, and shout out to, you know, I mentioned it. Um, I mentioned them during the show last week or was it, maybe it was the picture, but, uh, at coach speak index.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, had that, had that rating on Dan Campbell for, you know, like 80% reliability with usage. And sure enough, like Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell did what he said he was going to do. Jamir, Jamir Gibbs was not relegated to a backup role. He was, and I think that's what makes this line seem really dangerous moving forward is that they have Gibbs and Montgomery that they can deploy at the same time.


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[Assistant] Gibbs, uh, almost scored the game winning touchdown and then Montgomery can't like he's, if it's the balls of the one Montgomery's probably going to get it and let's Gibbs it all the work to get him down there. Um, he, he did have that one rushing touchdown, but you know, just, I think, I think really, really encouraging usage. If you're a Jameer Gibbs, fancy owner, or you're playing his props, like you expect him to continue to have a heavy workload moving forward.


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[Assistant] Commanders Cowboys on CBS, Nance, Jeremo, and Wolfson, right? This is the CBS game.


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[Assistant] He's got to fire somebody around the holidays anyway, but I mean, it's still sticks. Commanders are four and seven, uh, on the season now. Cowboys, of course, seven and three. Cowboys actually 73 against the spread as well. Both teams positive to the over here. Uh, Emory Sam Howell, man, he's flashed at times.


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[Assistant] But it's, it's, it's at least, I guess it's not like Jordan love where you use the first round pick on me. You're not sure it's a fifth round pick and you may end up just pairing him with the Carol, the Chapel Hill poo poo platter of him and Drake Mary by the time it's all said and done.


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[Assistant] Saquon averaged 5.9 yards per carry caught a ton of passes out of the backfield leg. If there was ever a Tony Pollard blow up spot other than the last two weeks, this would be it, right?


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[Assistant] Rico Dowdle might be a little sneaky, uh, DFS Thanksgiving, DFS three games late play. I mean, he, yeah.


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[Assistant] Yesterday, he had a really good run. It was a powerful run. He like drags you guys in the end zone, but it's like, I mean, I started following fantasy owners, man. We are. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Geno, Geno, Geno's absence is factored in here, I think. Okay. I think it's factored in here to a degree. I think that this is sort of the, um, hedge where it's like, we cannot have drew lock against that Niners defense, even at home on Thanksgiving night.


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[Assistant] And I guess it'll be rowdy things every night, right? It'll be like a, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, huge rivalry. People will be drunk. See all your playoff team. Yeah, people. Yeah, be loud as hell in there. I mean, even with drew lock catching, like, like you just can't have, you can't have drew lock catching.


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[Assistant] Or the Niners laying five against drew lock or the Niners laying three or four against drew lock because then people are gonna smash it and you also can't have, um, the Seahawks catching 10 with Gina Smith. So I think they're kind of hedging it right now based on the fact that it's a Thursday game. Um, I guess we'll get an injury report on Monday night for this game.


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[Assistant] Should, I mean, should, if at the very least you'll get like, uh, you know, comments from Pete Carroll about it and what that means. So I would expect that this line moves and it's entirely dependent on what, you know, what the status prop is for, uh, Gina Smith.


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[Assistant] I think you can make a case that Brandon Iook is now the most underrated wide receiver in, in football just because of like how he's perceived nationally. Um, and where he like sort of slots in, like he's considered the.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know if you're listening, if you're listening to the most important players for this 49ers team, like to the general public, he's behind Debo, he's behind Trent Williams, he's behind Pardee, he's behind Chris McCaffrey, he's behind Kennel, like, and he's, he's really, really important.


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[Assistant] Well, I was going to say, Oh yeah, man. Uh, for anybody who has Seahawks futures, uh, prop specifically, I was curious what you think. Cause we talked about this the last two weeks on the Sunday night show with breach pointed out. They are home against the Niners on Thursday.


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[Assistant] Is that the, oh, that's the Thursday night game at the Cowboys because you're the two Thanksgiving teams playing. So there's only a seven day break for the Seahawks at the Cowboys and then 10 days later at the Niners again.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Uh, this line is probably going to keep going up by the way, because Zach Wilson not starting. I don't actually, I guess that's not a bad thing. Uh, I don't know. Tim Boyle is starting for the


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[Assistant] Yeah. Temple starting for the jets here. I would not be surprised at this line, even though it's at New York on, uh, on Friday afternoon, the first time in the history of the NFL black Friday game. Um, would not be surprised at all if this game creeped over 10.


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[Assistant] Obviously division rivalry game, but the Dolphins have been stomping bad teams, uh, six and four gets a spread seven and three seven and O against teams who are 500 or below.


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[Assistant] By the way, worth noting that with HN, he, they actually said that he didn't, they didn't think he needed to go in IR. They just didn't want him to play with a brace. Their minus 650 to win the division.


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[Assistant] You know, it would be shocking if they didn't win it. So I would be cautious about his usage moving forward. Like he could have come back in that game. They're just like, nah, like they want to stay, know how important he is, how explosive he is. They want to save him. I think for the postseason.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's hard to imagine a whole lot of points being scored.


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[Assistant] Uh, in this matchup, just looking really quickly to see, um, I'm looking at the Bill's points scored against the Patriots, 10, uh, and I'm not getting 33. So I mean, that's, you know, that's, that's probably when Brian table was the, the, uh, offensive coordinators. I mean, obviously Josh Allen, a whole different ball of wax than Tommy DeVito, but I mean,


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[Assistant] He's had success against the Patriots. Uh, Belichick is his old team. So a little, I mean a little, maybe like, I don't know. I think Belichick wants to beat the Giants. Belichick wants to keep the heat off of him. Doesn't want to give the, like Belichick is if he leaves, you don't want to give the Patriots a good draft pick on the way out of town. You know, like I think, I mean, I think he wants to win as many games as he can. I mean, so


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[Assistant] Oh boy, three and a half on the road for the Patriots is a lot that I think, I think most people will be backing the giants. It's all some people tweeting about it. I was like surprised that the giants were favorite, but that's, I mean, that's a whole different ball.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. I mean, I agree with everybody's point. Like Belichick is going to throw some stuff at Tommy DeVito that's going to mess with his head. Steelers at the Bungles.


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[Assistant] Steelers, minus one and a half course, Joe burrow out for the season. Big was catching a little juice there. Total here, 34 and a half. Look ahead was bingles minus six. Um, cause that's how much that's


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's how much Joe Burroughs worked to, uh, worked to this.


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[Assistant] Uh, Ryan Wilson every Sunday is like, he's like, I've never, I've never seen anything like this on Sunday, last Sunday, last night. He's like, this isn't even a Kenny, this isn't even a Matt Canada problem. It's a Kenny Pickett problem, Emory.


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[Assistant] Well, when the other, when the other thing on the, on the kidney picket thing too, that's kind of interesting. So, um, the, uh, remember Kevin Colbert.


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[Assistant] Is the one who made the Kenny Pickett selection. So Omar Khan, who's now the GM, who was like, you know, work closely with Colbert forever. It was like, you know, like thought to be an in-house successor, right-hand guy takes over the job. Like it's sort of the same thing that Ozzy Newsom did with Lamar Jackson, where if it didn't work out.


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[Assistant] Then DaCosta had, could be like, well, Ozzy drafted him on his way out. You know what I mean? And now it's like, but it did work out. DaCosta's like, yeah, look, we got Lamar.


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[Assistant] Okay, uhm, I was looking at, I know Emery's got the, my, my favorite play Emery is the Black Friday play. Emery's got something on that. So I'll instead go to Thanksgiving and say that the Cowboys minus 10 and a half.


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[Assistant] Uh, it gets up to Cowboys minus 12. I also think that that, uh, total


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[Assistant] We'll climb up a few points and then if you want one more place that's what I missed last week. Uh, I will take the, uh, I think the Panthers Titans totals 37 feels high. Shouldn't it be like 21? Like I mean,


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[Assistant] Yes. Both teams are three and seven to the under. Why is it 37 and like, and, and Giants, um, Patriots is 33 and a half. Like, right. Levis can take some deep shots and Hopkins is, is dangerous. I guess maybe Derek, Derek Henry could run wild on this one, but like Carolina, Carolina is the most plotting.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the Hopkins touchdown was a flea flicker. We're, yeah, we're, we're Delevis. Right. And then, you know, Carolina, I mean, Carolina, yeah.


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[Assistant] Yep. Uh, Jaguars at Texas should be good offense. As prop mentioned, this over could be a good look. Jags are five and five to the over. Texas four and six to the over, but I agree. I think you see it already moving up 46 and a half on Fandl minus one 15. I see it in 47 and other places. Um,


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[Assistant] This isn't like a straight up division title matchup, but it's kind of close. The Jaguars win. I think the upshot has them at 90% to win the division. And if the Texans win, um, they, they're up to like, it becomes like basically a coin flip. So like the Texas it's, the Texans aren't done if they lose.


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[Assistant] But the Jaguars probably so up ish the division with the, with the wind here, they have a really, really easy schedule when this game and you can make a run at the AFC, uh, first seed in the AFC. And by the way,


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[Assistant] This time last year, and I wrote about this for cbsports.com, you can go read it on the site, but uhm, this time last year,


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[Assistant] Coming into the Jaguars got whipped in week 10 against the Niners 10 weeks in last year, there were three and seven and took off. Now someone was a little fluky and all that, but I think it's interesting to note that this is the point in time when the Jaguars offense and Trevor Lawrence started to play really well and he played awesome on Sunday in week 11.


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[Assistant] Thrashing a bad, a bad Titans defense. I just sort of wonder if at six and three now seven and three, they can make the same sort of like leap.


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[Assistant] In the second half of the season and challenge for the one seed. I don't think it's out of the question.


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[Assistant] That would be wild if that happened, especially considering where the season was. MC South probably not going to get three in, Katie.


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[Assistant] Like, it's 36 and a half with Derek Carr there. Because Derek Carr ain't attacking vertically. He's dinking and dunking. And Jameis is going to score 14 points for somebody.


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[Assistant] I think the Derek Carr thing is a good excuse for, uhm,


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[Assistant] The, uh, for Dennis out, cause Dennis sounds like Derek cars are starter, but it's like, I think he wants to play James Winston, but he doesn't want to piss off his boy Derek Carr. So it's like, all right, you're a concussion protocol. Just let's just.


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[Assistant] Keep him in concussion protocol and roll Jamis out there. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw, uh, plenty of Jamis and man Jamis makes everything more fun. This is much watched TV of Jamis plays against his Falcons defense. Buccaneers at the Colts. Emery's Colts laying one and a half at home. Uh, bucks are two and eight to the over.


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[Assistant] And the Colts are six and four total 43. It's actually shocking that the bucks are two and eight to the over because they are a pass.


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[Assistant] Funnel. And I think we could see a lot of Gardner Minshew and Michael Pittman, maybe Josh Downs in this game. You can just toss the ball all over the place against the Buccaneers defense. Wouldn't be surprised if we saw a pick six for Minshew as well. Any, um,


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[Assistant] You know, let's just toss anybody dying to say something about the bucks and colts that emery didn't know to cover. Um, all right, let's toss to break when we come back. Katie will tell us about her two most hated teams on planet earth next.


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[Assistant] This could have been an anticipation play for me. I think the Rams close as a favorite. Cardinals are two and nine. They can't be favored. Stafford's healthy. Give me


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[Assistant] That's fine. That's fine. Stafford's healthy. Give me the Rams.


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[Assistant] I don't know what, uh, yeah, I mean, obviously Sean McVay, Cliff Kingsbury, they were some of the matchups there, but I, yeah, I'll take the, I'll take the reins. I think Stafford has a big game against a very vulnerable, Darrell Anderson Jr. might have a big game here too against a very vulnerable, like Devon Singletary was gashing this Cardinals, this run defense. Wouldn't be shocking at all.


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[Assistant] First time in his career back to back 100 year old performances and the human first down. Darryl Henderson straight out of Memphis, baby. Let's go.


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[Assistant] I like my explainments of DFS this week. Browns at the Browns at the Broncos, Beats, Bears, Battlestar, Galactica.


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[Assistant] Broncos minus two and a half, a total of 36 and a half. And that is Jews towards the under.


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[Assistant] I would definitely look towards the under two Browns are four or five and one on the season. Broncos are four and six, but that, you know, the Sean Watson is factored in there and he has some weird.


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[Assistant] I don't think the Bronx, the Browns are going to be very aggressive on offense at all, and I don't think the Broncos would be very aggressive at all. Russell Wilson had some looks, some looks downfield at Courtland Sutton passing touchdown on Monday night or Sunday night. Excuse me. You know, great.


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[Assistant] Fine throw, but it were only quarter to seven could get it. But by and large, Russell was checked down Charlie, and that's fine. He's not making any huge mistakes. Broncos can't really run the ball that well, and the defense is playing well enough where I think that you'll just see this be sort of a slight fest.


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[Assistant] By the way, I would almost, I mean, I was thinking about this last night cause I put my picks in for sports line and Broncos minus two and a half or one. Um, it's like the NFL is so stupid where


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's Broncos minus two and a half. The Broncos win by one. And it's basically, do you win or lose? Do you cover or, or do you win or lose your bet? Comes down to that two point conversion. And I think that's why I would probably even just lay the money line with the Broncos here at minus 135, just because


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[Assistant] It might be one of those where it's a field goal at the end and it comes down to like, is it a tie game or are they down two or are they down one? And like the field goal, you, you win. It feels like you're like the Falcons early in the season where if you don't take the money line.


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[Assistant] You know, Arthur Smith is going to find a way to like not cover two and a half while also winning.


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[Assistant] Maybe, maybe Tim Boyle is the most confident man on planet earth. That's what's going on there. I think the under, I mean, uh,


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[Assistant] It's in, it's in Vegas. Is this the snow? That's a, um, but the chiefs are two and 70 under Raiders or two and nine to the under. Um, I think the chiefs will limit what, what aid no column that offense can do. I think the Raiders will try and get back to more Josh Jacobs. They didn't do it against Miami only 14 carries and you'll see a Raiders. The Raiders are trying hard.


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[Assistant] Like I don't think my homes is going to lose a bullet or I don't think I don't we'll see what happens against Philly on Monday night obviously, but like I would be surprised if you know.


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[Assistant] Coming out of the by and it's just like all of a sudden this, you know, chiefs, these chiefs receivers are just like lighting the world on fire. They're scoring tons of points. Um, well, yes, I don't know if we got Taylor Swift here for this one or not. So maybe under definitely.


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[Assistant] Uh, Bill's at Eagle's. Eagle's also playing in the Monday night game. The Bill's a very desperate six and five. The Eagle's TBD eight and one, eight and two or nine and one. Man, Bill's getting three and a half here.


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[Assistant] I don't know. What do you think about, uh, what we saw from Joe Brady and Josh Allen? Cause I thought it was interesting to note that.


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[Assistant] In the wake of Ken Dorsey being fired at the beginning of the week, Josh Allen was asking about Dorsey. He was like, he's a great, great guy. Just one of the best humans. That's the way they talk about


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like nothing about him as a coach. Yeah, nothing. I didn't see why you were that upset about this.


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[Assistant] He's like, Joe Brady's got some juice, man. I don't know. I think it's kind of interesting, man. It's sort of like maybe...


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[Assistant] Sean McDermott fired Ken Dorsey because he knows that his seat is warm. I mean, like, that's just the bottom line. When you fire your offensive coordinator in the middle of the season and you're not in the playoffs and you were a Super Bowl favorite, it means you know your ass is on the line.


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[Assistant] And so it stands to reason then that he would be like, look, Joe, Joe Brady, go work with Josh and just figure out what the best offense is and screw it. Like I'm, I'm hands off. I'm going to coach up this defense. Go do what you got to do. Right.


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[Assistant] But I mean, let's see, let's see. Let's also, I mean, like, let's see what, um, the deal is too with.


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[Assistant] You know, like, like, I mean, jail, like if jail and hurts gets banged up at all during the Monday night game, jump on the bills plus three and a half. Obviously, you know, I think that, that, that matters too. When we talk with the Monday night.


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[Assistant] Couple of notes here, just, Jim Harbaugh just, or John Harbaugh, excuse me, just talked like while we were doing the show. Mark Andrews has a chance to come back at some point later in the season, would be in the playoffs if he came back. Odell Beckham's injury not considered to be long-term, but sounds like he wouldn't be able to play. Um, and then Lamar Jackson is quote, fine. So three big names.


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[Assistant] Uh, I would imagine Joey Bosa's, uh, we won't find out till later, but I imagine he's, I mean, the way he got caught off and was crying. So, I mean, I, that typically, um, yeah, that typically means it's not great.


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[Assistant] Chargers past defense is absolute dog crap right now too. Like Lamar, I mean Lamar is going to light him up. I think, I think Todd Mockerel will scheme this up and you will see explosive plays down the field. But yeah, Mark Andrews.


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[Assistant] Blowing out of the water. Every time I see him, he goes, he, he sheepishly has to say, yeah, you did.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that's, Bill Murray's funny, and Brian Doyle Murray was kind of annoying.


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[Assistant] What about Sly and, what about Sly and Frank Stallone? Frank's a good one. Frank had the one song. What was the one song called, Pete? Do-do-do-do-do-do. He said he was singing on the street corner. Yeah, that was famous. That was a good song.


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[Assistant] If you, if your brother that you're, like I grew up with my brother Richie, we were a year and two days apart.


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[Assistant] So, but he got kept back a year. So we went to school together from ninth grade on. So in high school, everybody would come up and the girls would come up, are you two twins? And I'd go, yeah, my mom helped me in for a year and two days. Hey, we're not twins.


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[Assistant] He was the distant brother, but he was, you know, you, you, you can tell, your brothers that you're with all the time, it's, you're more than the same age, it's easier to be more relevant with them. So don't say anything different, Breach, you're a liar.


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[Assistant] You know who, you know who never gets, when you talk about brothers like in acting, uhm,


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[Assistant] You talk about, what's his name from Dirty Dance and, uh, him and his brother. Swayze's brother was in a lot of movies.


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[Assistant] And, and, you know, eh, they have two, they have two linebackers. You know, Franklin and, um, and, uh, Speed are good players.


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[Assistant] So, I don't, you know, you don't play three that much.


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[Assistant] Any more, at least the way the game is played. So maybe that has something to do with it. Or any complaint, maybe a complaint. I don't know. I don't know the answer to that question.


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[Assistant] He was always light and you know, his speed was always a big deal and when you hurt your, you hurt your back, it's tough to overcome that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he retired, but he's coming out of retirement. Okay.


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[Assistant] He hasn't been good and, and, but it's hard, again, with all these quarterbacks, it's the same thing. Bryce Young, you make an excuse for him every Tuesday.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Will Levis gets beat up and same thing. They're all, they're all in situations where they're not.


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[Assistant] Able to become good players. And so until we see the possibility that they have a chance, it's hard to evaluate. So to answer your question, if Kenny Pickett doesn't do more in the second half of the season with the change in offensive coordinator and change in offensive, you know, play calling, then I think you really got to start worrying about it.


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[Assistant] If I'm the Bears? Yeah. We want Caleb. Oh, I would take that.


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[Assistant] I agree. I agree. The offensive was way too predictable. I think we need to get Jaylen Warren to ball more.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, I don't, you know, I've heard differing viewpoints on him, by the way, uhm, for a variety of reasons, but.


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[Assistant] I would, I don't know if he'd be that guy. I'm trying to think off the top of my head. You know, you know who's, uh,


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[Assistant] The Vikings are resurgent, you know, who's in there now as the assistant GM.


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[Assistant] I don't know, but he would probably scream and yell at about 8.30. No, I think he softened a little bit. He was a little angry for a while. I always liked Ryan Grigson and you know me, I have no problem with the guy who's going to give me crap, but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think these guys get in, here's what happens, not just guys like him, but whoever does get a job like that, they change.


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[Assistant] I can refer to about 18,000 guys. Believe me, I've been around all of them. I know how they are. They all get in there. Ah, it's not going to be me. I'm not going to be that way. I'm not going to be that way. And then two losses in, they're all that way. You know. Or they have a lot of success there.


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[Assistant] And then they start fighting in the building with the coach. It's your players here. Here's the one thing that happens all the time. Cause I know I've talked to many guys about it. Rick Spielman will tell you this when a coach wants a player.


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[Assistant] They draft them, and then the player doesn't play to that. He blames the GM, whereas the GM will blame the coach for not developing the player. So there's your rift right away. You didn't get me this.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's exactly, it's, it's not unlike business. I mean, that's the way business is. Somebody's always going to play the blame game when things don't go wrong. Right. And so I think that's what happens. So, uh, you know,


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[Assistant] See if me, I would hire the position, executive VP, you deal with all the garbage, GM, you're my football guy. That's how I would hire the job. If somebody doesn't


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[Assistant] But like, I'll give you an example. Is Omar Khan running the Steelers football operations? He is. Omar Khan was a cap guy. That's how he made his bones. You know, I know a lot of cap guys that would love to be football guys, and then you get the football guys who look at those guys and say, oh well, he can't do it.


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[Assistant] I just think it's football. It's not that complicated. It really is not.


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[Assistant] It's not. Hire a cap guy. If you're a football guy, you hire a cap guy. You have an EVP above you. The EVP handles all the big picture stuff. That's stuff I talked about. The football guy handles the football. The cap guy figures out a way to make it all work for the football guy. And there's your organization. It's not that complicated.


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[Assistant] It's awful, and the weapons aren't great either because they brought all Rodgers


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[Assistant] But he's over and they can't do anything. Lazard can't run, Cobb's 120 and, and the rest of those guys beside Garrett Wilson are average at best. So it's almost like, what are you doing? You can't, look, we don't think Wilson's any good. There have been games where for him, and I always got to put the qualifier on it. Oh, he played okay for him.


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[Assistant] For him. You know, we'll be doing that for Bryce Young in a couple of years. For him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Michael Myers disappeared over Pete's shoulder. But, but again.


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[Assistant] He gets a pass on the Rogers thing. If Rogers comes back next year and they don't win, then he's out. You sure? Positive.


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[Assistant] And you know what, Brady got all mad at me, Brady Quinn got all mad at me, I said the throw could have been a little bit better.


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[Assistant] I don't think you're crazy either. Look, last year, and I said this today earlier when we were on, on HQ, I said, told Brady this, I said,


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[Assistant] The Vikings won all those close games last year, went to the postseason, everybody said, oh, they're fraud. Well, the Eagles are winning all close games. Are they a fraud? I mean, every game is, is a one score game almost.


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[Assistant] Beating the Cowboys. The Cowboys outplayed him that day. Should have won the game. Shouldn't have beaten the Chiefs last night, frankly.


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[Assistant] But they keep winning. The corners aren't playing well at all. You saw that. Those two guys have had issues all year, Bradbury and Slay.


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[Assistant] I would have said, I would have looked right at him and said, well, are you giving up the play calling or not? You didn't answer the question.


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[Assistant] And he'd go, well, well, I'm going to ask it until you make a decision. Are you the reason the, he was basically throwing everybody else under the bus, but him and his coaches. Did you notice that?


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[Assistant] We call the right plays, we do the right things, we do the right game plan and then so who's it on then? On your players?


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[Assistant] Right, or if you want to take it up with the guy, take it up with him on the side.


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[Assistant] Those got ugly and in the press conference, the smart coach is never allowed to get up.


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[Assistant] Look, they're playing better. I still don't believe in that.


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[Assistant] The bra, the bragos have been fortunate the last couple of weeks. Let's put it that way.


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[Assistant] Do you think, do you think they're good? I mean, look, I think they're moving in the right direction because Sean will straighten that place out. He's too good a football coach, but they're moving in the right direction.


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[Assistant] I don't know if you guys saw the start of the game, they showed uhm, the practice facility they're building there. They have no issue at all with spending money.


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[Assistant] I say no. Gardner meant you can't take a team to the postseason. He's not making it.


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[Assistant] They're starting like, they might start like four rookies in that, on that defense this week.


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[Assistant] Well, you gotta, you gotta think, Jacksonville and the Texans, this Texan schedule's a joke too. Whoever wins this week is gonna win the division.


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[Assistant] Whoever, whoever, and the other one will be a wild card team. So there's, there's one of the wild cards. The Dolphins will be, I mean, maybe the Bills.


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[Assistant] Uh, what about the Vikings? Six and five are ranked 13th. In. In.


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[Assistant] Yes. No. You and Stafford, you just don't stop, do you? Uhm, no. Who would you like?


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[Assistant] Somebody's gotta be the 6 and the 7. Who's the 6 then? Viking 6 and then Ram 7.


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[Assistant] And it's not going to be the first time in history that Washington fires a coach either.


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[Assistant] If they win this week, they're in the mix. I mean, not going to be in the post-season, but they win this week. It's Thanksgiving. They are in the hunt.


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[Assistant] When you're in the new defense, especially a guy like Brian Flores who routinely likes to blitz, right? So he likes to give you different looks, he'll blitz and go man, blitz and go zone, so.


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[Assistant] But a guy that, you know, I want to circle can't bind him. I mean, he had a ridiculous game, uh, against the 49ers on Sunday night. I mean, those two interceptions to Brady's point, right? Rock party, like you're happy when he throws one anticipation, those tight windows. But when somebody makes a play on the ball,


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[Assistant] You're upset with him. So like, what is, what is Brock Purdy supposed to do in those situations? I think Cam Bydom just made two really great plays and then he also forced the fumble early in the game.


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[Assistant] Uh, but they were gonna first Brock Purdy without Debo Samuel, without Trent Williams at left tackle to go down and have methodical drives and score at the end of those drives. But I'm like, Brady, we can talk about, you know,


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[Assistant] I'm glad you brought that up Brady because we actually had the conversation last week talking about offensive line play and how it hasn't been as good. And I thought this was a under, uh, underlying signing Dalton Reisner. They got him in, well not in the middle of the season, but it was about three or four games into the season. I think he's really fortified that inside. Ed Ingram has played well.


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[Assistant] Something that hasn't been talked about enough, I think the Vikings have two of the best tackles in all of football. We talk about Brian O'Neil being a really good offensive tackle, and then Christian Derrasson is going to be a superstar in the future.


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[Assistant] For them to go up against that gauntlet that is the 49ers and not give up a sack, guys. Like, and it wasn't like Kirk Cousins wasn't dropping back and passing. It was almost like seven on seven out there the way he was playing quarterback. So he dropped back a lot in that game.


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[Assistant] For him not to, he said he felt the rest, but watching the game Brady, it didn't seem like he felt the rest or he was comfortable back there.


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[Assistant] You gotta give a kudos to that offensive line, especially that interior there with Javon Hargrave, the way he's played throughout the season. I think Dalton Reisner has really fortified the interior of the, you know, the interior three of that offensive line.


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[Assistant] We talked about that last week, right? Cause we were saying that's not sustainable. Like when they did it last year, I was like, there's no way you could do that in back to back years. And we see this year they've won, you know, three out of the seven games. They've been in one score games. And if you look at the.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because probably from that standpoint for sure. I mean, we sat here and listened how many, how many endless hours talking about Aaron Rodgers and what he would mean to the Jets and what he's meant to the team and how he's rejuvenated and how he's a new guy and he goes around New York City and then four plays in. Goodbye.


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[Assistant] And now you're back to being the cursed Jets. And this organization at that quarterback position has been cursed. Let's be real. And I said this today on HQ. It's the curse of Bill Belichick.


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[Assistant] He took the job for one day and then he left. Remember? And he went to New England and on the way out he put the whammy on him. I mean, it's been going on longer than that, but the reality is, you know, the bottom line is you have so much build up and now it's gone.


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[Assistant] But the flip side of it is, you're now going to play a guy you drafted second overall.


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[Assistant] You drafted him second overall. So let's go see what he can do. And if your defense is that dominant, hey, Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl, Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl.