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[Assistant] Their fronts, how the linebackers are lined up according to the front forward, they do a lot of different stuff there, right? And then they're not afraid to blitz some of them off the edge and they glow a little bit more of the


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[Assistant] You know, to a degree, almost like the, like we've talked about in the past, the Dallas Cowboys, this controlled chaos, right? We're just going to fly up field and we might not be in the perfect gap all the time, but we got so many athletes and we're so aggressive.


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[Assistant] If you pull a guard here, it's gonna just become a melee. Your guard's not gonna get to where he's supposed to go, and the whole play is just gonna become a mess because we've just got people flying upfield, right? That's kind of the approach they take for lack of a better, or a, you know, more of a


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[Assistant] They, I think they're better off, this, and this is something, you know, that bothered me about the Ravens a little bit, where...


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[Assistant] I felt like the Ravens had more success when they spread the field out. They can't toy with you quite as much with all their people inside when you do that. And the pictures outside can become a little more clear as well. And then when you have receivers like the Ravens do, I want to go, hey,


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[Assistant] As we talk about, sometimes the egos of these offensive coordinators are, I drew this play all week. I had to work on it. And sometimes I want to just go, that guy's 10 yards off. That guy's awesome. Throw him a slant and let's call it a day or throw the crow route, let him beat that guy. And that's it. Right. And that's gotten lost a little bit in the new age of football.


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[Assistant] When you get into the condensed sets, like we talked about in the 49ers game against the Browns, and same here with the Ravens, it allows them to be aggressive and put all these people at the line of scrimmage and all these crazy alignments to, it's like,


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[Assistant] I don't know how to block this. And they move into this right at the last second. And then we made a call, but now it's changed and Lamar's going set hut. And it's like, I can't be a pulling guard. And now like yell something to the guy that was next to like, Hey, let's trolley that as I'm running away from him. Right. Or anything like that.


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[Assistant] It plays into their hand of letting more people in chaos around the line of scrimmage when you play those condensed sets and you have no chance of blocking it.


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[Assistant] The teams and even this moment in this game, the Ravens had more success when they spread it out. When we talked about the Browns defense pie and the Colts, that was the thing we hit on if you remember. Shane Steichen said the hell with all that. We'll spread it out a little bit so my quarterback can see it and they can't play with us up front as much in all our rules. That to me is what I would do. They're good at both and they're aggressive at both. But I wouldn't be in the condensed set world a whole lot against Cleveland because they


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[Assistant] It's, it's like, to your point, if you're watching on TV and you were trying to watch other games on Sunday, whatever else, you know, you'd look back at the Ravens and go, oh man, the Ravens are having their way with Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Right? But, when you start to break the game down individually, and whether you go back and watch on TV, or watch on film like I do,


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[Assistant] You start to realize, ehh, the offense really wasn't that good. It wasn't, it wasn't like a sustained butt-whipping at no point. Listen, the game started off with a tip-pass pick-six interception by Kyle Hamilton, 7-0, right?


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[Assistant] They come out, now they finally get the ball. They throw the ball two or three times, get some nice, hey, we're starting the game completion. Defenses are usually a little conservative to start the game. They want to get a feel for how they're being attacked before they start to go, let's start bringing our best stuff to the table. Right? So they do that. Okay.


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[Assistant] They break the long run with Keaton Mitchell. So there's that play. Okay? But my point is...


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[Assistant] It was not sustained drives in this game. It was about six plays where the whole offense for the Ravens. You break down the Keaton Mitchell run, which was a 39 yard touchdown and he had 34 yards rushing on the day. Okay. So that's just tells you a little, right? From that point on, he went backwards the rest of the game. Okay.


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[Assistant] The Keaton Mitchell screen, the next drive set, it was awesome. He ran to the right through the bat ball all the way back to the left side. Keaton Mitchell ran up the sideline. They got a field goal. That was a big play. You know, there was a Mark Andrews big play where they busted a coverage.


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[Assistant] And that got him down in field goal position. And then of course there's the Odell Beckham Jr. slant pass to start the third quarter.


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[Assistant] My point was, watching the game back, I never felt like, oh, they're dominating them up front, or oh, they're just picking them apart, and oh, they're just stalling out or making a mistake as they get down there close. Now listen, you know, Lamar missed a big play.


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[Assistant] Where he could have hit Zay Flowers on a go route, uh, and there was, you know, maybe another few missed opportunities, but what my point was, it wasn't like physical domination or schematical domination to where you were like, man, Cleveland can't stop them.


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[Assistant] No, it was more like Cleveland stops him. Cleveland stops him. Cleveland stops him. Cleveland stops him. Oh, Baltimore makes a 25 yard play. Cleveland stops him. Cleveland stops him. Oh, Baltimore made another play. Cleveland stops him seven more times. Whoa, Baltimore made another big play, right?


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[Assistant] So that's where the game was a little odd that way. Uh, Baltimore go away looking at it going, man, we could have made a few plays or done this different and maybe put the game away. I know that.


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[Assistant] But Cleveland's gonna look at it too and go, well, we messed up a few things and they shouldn't even had some of those plays. Yeaah. Right? So it'd be, uh, it'd be interesting, but it wasn't domination by the Ravens though, even though they had that 31 points.


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[Assistant] They do have big playability. And they've had the other playability too of being a long drive, can smash Matthew with the run game, play action passes, do all that. Still a lot of positives there. This defense is great. I've said it, I think the last few pods.


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[Assistant] This Brown's defense gives me, you know, the same feeling of the 2015 Broncos where every game you go, they're going to make two or three plays that it's going to end up in points for their football team. But pick six, 39 yard touchdown run.


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[Assistant] The screen pass that they don't go anywhere after the screen pass to kick a field goal. They do nothing the rest of the game really offensively. Other than...


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[Assistant] I did not think they would go that way. I did not. I thought they would play PJ Walker and, you know, maybe have a quick leash if it didn't go well, uh, and throw him out there, you know, then throw DTR out there. You know, I think we talked about they would sign a third quarterback for sure.


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[Assistant] Maybe they saw enough from PJ Walker and his carelessness with the football and they said, wait, you know, DTR wasn't...


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[Assistant] Anymore careless with the football is PJ Walker, and we think he's got more of an upside here, and that's why they ride with it. So, uh, be interested to see what they do. You know I like me some DTR. This is a tough situation, of course. Playing in Pittsburgh, you know, and this type of football game.


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[Assistant] The big thing is, yeaah, manage the game. Don't try to force anything. This should be a defense. We can run the ball, win an ugly game type of football game here. And hopefully he can make that happen.


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[Assistant] It just seems like every week he makes a few big plays and a big moment or whatever it is. It's just, uh, he's one of the best defensive players in the game. He really is. And yeah, it goes beyond.


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[Assistant] Just pass rushing. It's, you know, it's instincts in the pass game, when to get hands up and bat the ball. I mean, he can do everything, let alone he's got some F the play up stuff about him that doesn't go on the stat sheet there.


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[Assistant] You know, remarkable. And that, you know, has a motor, as we talked about, barely ever comes out of the game like a Max Crosby. And I think, you know, ultimately he's just


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[Assistant] He, he makes more splash play. That's to me, like Max Crosby's great. I got that.


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[Assistant] For the amount, he does not make as many splash plays in a football game.


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[Assistant] Throughout, okay? I know he's gonna get his sacks and he's gonna get there and everybody's gonna go, well look, he made just as many sacks as that guy did last week. But it's the rest of the game where I go, you know, I don't feel his presence the same as TJ Watt, Myles Garrett, Micah Parsons or Nick Bosa.


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[Assistant] The rest of the game. Outside of the sacks for the quarterbacks. That's where I would say it's a little different. I feel like they consistently pressure, those other guys consistently pressure the quarterback more than Max Crosby. And I'm not, you know, you know I think Max Crosby is awesome. I just don't think he's quite in Watts class or some of those other guys class.


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[Assistant] That's how they're playing football right now. They got a swag and a confidence about them. The defense is flying around, and he is the perfect defensive tackle for that scheme, right? That's where he's perfect. He was with the Jets the year before. Jets, Robert Sala, D'Amico Ryan, came from the 49ers, so it makes a lot of sense there.


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[Assistant] And that's where they're sneaky. Him and Malik Collins in the middle, they're both sneaky, explosive, disruptive defensive tackles. Rankin's just had a few injuries in his career.


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[Assistant] Right? That have derailed him a little bit. But man, for a defensive tackle who's 300 pounds, he's about as quick as athletic as they come. And there's no doubt. In that game, like see, Kappa is one of those guys that's like,


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[Assistant] He's better against Chris Jones than he is against Sheldon Rankins. He's better against the bigger, powerful, rawr, I'm just gonna like overrun you. Kappa's big and powerful himself, so he feels good against that.


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[Assistant] It's the, woah, this jitterbug type of defense to tackle who's making me go side to side and getting on the edge of me all the time. He's not as good in that department and Sheldon Rankin's had his way with him all day.


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[Assistant] You know. Insanity though, for the whole NBA, we were like, oh my gosh, this guy's a scoring machine, right?


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[Assistant] Man, these last two weeks, Dobbs is definitely one of the best quarterbacks in football, right? I feel like Glenn Sanity was like, there was a time there where we were like, damn, is this real? Like, is he really just going to hit 35 footers and like,


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[Assistant] Like on a consistent basis all the time, big moments, whatever, right? So there's some semblance there. And of course it's the hottest story in the sport. I get that, right? So it's really cool.


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[Assistant] As you watch this game, it's like it caught the Saints by surprise a little bit. I don't think the Saints realized how fast he was, that he was as big as he was, and then they came out with a game plan of, I wanna be like, I don't, what were you guys thinking? You didn't think that the...


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[Assistant] That they were going to run bootlegs with Josh Dobbs, like a basic beginner type of thing that all quarterback coaches and offensive coordinators do for a quarterback. So they got burned early on by some basic stuff where you're like New Orleans.


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[Assistant] What are you defending or what are you thinking here? But I do think his running, uh,


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[Assistant] His ability, of course, to see the field and make right decisions, which is really probably the best thing he does, you know, and then you couple that with a few quarterback design runs and the scrambles you go on with it.


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[Assistant] And a defense that we talked about earlier that is much better, yeaah, it's leaning to some successful things. Is it sustainable? I'm still not totally sure. Cause when


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[Assistant] The Saints adjusted and started to take away some of the basic things of the offense. Offense became hard in the second half for the Minnesota Vikings, right?


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[Assistant] And that's where I want to see where this goes. But O'Connell's really awesome. Dobbs is good to digest it. O'Connell's offense is friendly for a beginner quarterback because of the play actions. He is good at the boots. And then the other thing I love about O'Connell's offense is across the board reads. Right? And what I mean by that, you've heard me say this where like,


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[Assistant] If it's too deep, we'd like you to kind of play this side. If it's one deep, we kind of want you to play the other side of the field. And then defense gives you these bastard looks where you're like, I'm not sure if that's too deep or one deep.


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[Assistant] Right? It's kinda too deep, but they're not exactly even, so I'm not sure. Is it too deep? What do we call it here? And that adds to confusion. Of course, defense coordinators know that too, and they play with quarterbacks and play callers' minds that way. Not with O'Connell. O'Connell's like, hey, we got one receiver to the left and three to the right. More times than not, it's gonna be, look at the guy on the left, you know?


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[Assistant] And yeaah, some coverages dictate how quickly you stay on it or get off of it, I should say. But we're gonna look to the lab and then...


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[Assistant] Somebody, one of those three receivers to the right, somebody's gonna come into your vision as you go across the field and there's gonna be another guy and then as you keep going across the field will be the fourth guy and you'll work your way across and you don't have to always worry about


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[Assistant] Hey, it's cover 3, I gotta think about this rule. Oh wait, it's cover 4, I gotta think about that rule. Oh, it's Tampa 2, the rules changed, now I have to do this and that. To where it's just like, hey wait, the read is 1, 2, 3, 4 across the field.


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[Assistant] You know, it's not every pass play, but it's a lot of them and I think that makes it quarterback friendly for him as well.


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[Assistant] They played conservative and like, they kind of played the, I don't think, let's not mess up.


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[Assistant] I don't think he can execute the offense and pick us apart. And then it was like, no, it's drive three and he's picking you apart again here. Let's adjust. And they finally started to adjust a little bit. And when they started to play a little bit more aggressive and play man to man,


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[Assistant] You know, Dobbs who throws it good, it's still below average NFL starting quarterback throwing. You know, again, there's a reason he's been on six teams in two years here. It's not because teams are like, we're so awesome at quarterback that


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[Assistant] Dobbs is awesome, we just, we can't fit him in our team. No, there's things that are flawed about his game. He is reluctant to throw the ball into tight spaces. If it is tight man-to-man coverage, he doesn't really trust himself to throw it in there, right?


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[Assistant] Hey, it's zone and I gotta touch it over this guy or use some timing and rhythm to throw in the window. He's really good at all that. But when the Saints started to play a little bit more aggressively, uh, with even disguises and man-to-man and all that, then the offense really sputtered there.


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[Assistant] Like to me, when he comes in the game, there's an explosion and an aggressive element that he brings to the table at the running back position that's just greater than Alexander Maddison. I think you're gonna start to see a shift there where he's gonna be, become the guy. You know, Alexander Maddison's very good, don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not trying to say he's bad.


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[Assistant] There's a hunger and an angriness in how Chandler runs. And his ability to hit the hole


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[Assistant] To me, jumps off the screen as compared to Madison. And I think that's the reason you saw him get the bulk of the carries in that game the other day. I think they realized, wait, he gets us a little more tough yards, there's no nonsense running with him, and I think you're gonna start to see them feature him more and more. And what about the corner for the Saints, Paulson Adiba?


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[Assistant] They got a new king in the secondary. And I kind of knew this, but I didn't want to jump out and say it in like week three or week four, cause I was like, oh, let me just see a little more film and watch this guy a little more. Pulse of the Devo, number 29.


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[Assistant] Is the best corner on the New Orleans Saints. He has surpassed Marshawn Latimore, who I have great respect for, cause I mean he's been an island corner and you know I put a lot of respect into that, right?


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[Assistant] The way they call the defenses and everything there, even they, they, uh, Debo is their guy. When, when it's a big situation and they had to play man to man, it was Paulson and Debo on Jordison Addison, not Marshall and Lattimore, right? And he's got phenomenal ball skills. He's got phenomenal change of direction skills. And of course he can fly.


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[Assistant] I-I-I've been had my eye on him because I was a little bit of a lone wolf in our cornerback rankings when he came out. I put him in the top five. I thought he was phenomenal that way.


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[Assistant] I've always had my eye on him. And then when he went to New Orleans, where I know they like to play man to man, I went, ooh, this is going to be interesting. And to me, he's, he's one of the best corners in football.


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[Assistant] And I don't know what his PFF ranking is or whatever else. He's put in a lot of tough situations. Makes plays on the ball, gets interceptions, and he can cover some guys for real. He really jumped off the screen to me.


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[Assistant] You know, it's gonna be interesting, but the Denver offense has gotten better. I do think Russell Wilson and Sean Payton have finally


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[Assistant] Hit the cohesive point of their marriage here. I mean, Russell Wilson looked damn good the other night. I don't care what the stats were. If you look at it, what was there to be had, the quicknesses, decisions, the moving, the playmaking.


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[Assistant] His play, as Troy Hickman said at the end of the game, was way better than the stats would say. Every big moment or whenever they needed it, he was pretty damn good.


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[Assistant] I don't know who I'm gonna pick in this one. This is a tight one. I think Denver's got some mojo going for sure. And of course, Minnesota does as well.


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[Assistant] You know, and Flores versus Sean Payton is going to be an interesting matchup. And the other thing that I didn't add to it is with the Dobbs thing, where they're so, they never waste a play. I think you might have saw that in my notes with O'Connell. It's just that,


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[Assistant] Every play they run, I go, well, that's the right play to run against that defense. Ooh, that's the right pass to throw against with that defense. I mean, so they always are schematically


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[Assistant] In the right situation. Now you gotta go out and execute it. I know all that, but I never come away with a play and go, why would you even waste your time trying to run that play into that look? There is no way that could work any day of the week or twice on Sunday. And they never do that. And of course that's pretty common with all great offensive coordinators.


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[Assistant] Continue to watch me get pissed off tomorrow on the PFDPM Chris Sims on Button Vodgast.


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[Assistant] We got the PIX Podcast. Check us out there. Keep sending in thoughts, questions, homies. Please, we love it. Ahmed, thanks as always for driving the ship. You the man.


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[Assistant] Alright everybody, be good. Have a safe weekend. Check us out Thursday. Should be a good weekend of football, that's for sure. Week 11 in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Did you lay down some money on it? No, I'm not a gambler, so I didn't do any of that stuff. But it actually was, it was cool to see Madison, Wisconsin, my first time seeing a game at Camp Randall. They did jump around between the third and fourth quarter, which was awesome.


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[Assistant] It was really cool, and we got to see Marvin Harrison Jr. ball out. That's right. A couple touchdowns. He'll be, he could be, I think he'll be top five in the draft at least. Yea, I would say so.


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[Assistant] Uh, contender concerns, we got some statement wins out there, taking care of business, quarterback injuries, we got the Will Levis category, so that's a mystery on who's gonna be in that one. Uh, we'll also have, give me the headlines, a quick


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[Assistant] Yeah, kind of a get right game for Herbert. At this point, he is 27 of 33 for 253 yards. Kinda good. Who knows how much they'll throw the ball going forward.


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[Assistant] We go to the contender concerns. Ooh, do we have some concerns with other teams that we did not think we'd have concerns about? The Chiefs go down in the biggest shocker of the day. The Broncos beat them 24 to 9. That was a 16 straight.


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[Assistant] Five turnovers for the Chiefs. Is that basically how this happened? How did this go down?


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[Assistant] And Mahomes just overshot Justin Watson on the sideline. Could have been a huge play. That would have got him down by the goal line. We're talking late in the third quarter here. Yes, right. You get there, you make that play, you take the lead. It's a completely different ball game. Now Denver.


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[Assistant] Did not take advantage after, uhm, after that possession, after that punt, but then the next punt, the punt was muffed and then it was like they recovered in short field.


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[Assistant] Broncos. Shout out to Georgia too, who was in today. Part of our crew is a little bit under the weather today because they were at the World Series probably with


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[Assistant] At the helm, the Bengals are back. They beat the 49ers 31-17. They have won four of five games since starting the season 0-2. So is it true? Is Joe Burrow back?


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[Assistant] So Joe Burrow has eight touchdowns, two interceptions during this three game winning streak. Had those three touchdowns today, and that does take us to...


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[Assistant] Inside the numbers powered by AWS. Dramatic pause just to get into it. Uh, closer look at Joe Burrow in the passing chart here. So the numbers say this. He completed 28 of 32 passes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Joe Mixon looked like his old self, 16 caries, 87 yards, over 5 yards per rush. We have something else on Joe Burrow here too, because it wasn't just-


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[Assistant] Finding the guys at short distance and hitting the windows inside of 10 yards, it was the plus 10 yard air yard throws. Yeah. Uh, plus 10 air yard throws that really were significant for Joe Burrow. You see what he had done in weeks 1 through 4 just completing 28% of those passes, but weeks 5 through 8 he's completing 60% of those passes for touchdowns on such throws.


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[Assistant] One final thing, we have a request from Bozeman Baker, a homie out there. Bozeman, hey, welcome to the show. He says this to us. Pete, do we have the tweet? Can we bring up the tweet here? He goes, enough.


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[Assistant] Between Sunday Night Football, Pro Football Talk on Peacock, Chris Simms is broadcasting for NBC at least six days a week during the season. Feels like more than that. Until Chris can prove his ability to pronounce the Bengals correctly and not as the Bengals, please suspend Chris Simms.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yep, so a big win, a big win for the Cincinnati Bengals who are back. The big play Bengals are back and so is Joe Burrow. Now time to move on to the Statement Wins category and I would say this is a Statement Win for the Seattle Seahawks beating the


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[Assistant] Then they basically stall out until their backs were against the wall, needing a drive at the end of the game. The defense got a stop and then Zach Charbonnet ran off a couple good runs to get them in range.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Seattle got an interception with Julian Love then and that's what really set them up for Jackson Smith and Jigba to get the screen, the wide receiver screen for the game winning touchdown. So they have won five of their last six games now. They have a half game lead on the 49ers for the NFC West. Oh boy. I know. Got some things that are interesting here.


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[Assistant] There was another play at the end of the third quarter, Cameron Mitchell dropped what could have been a huge pick six against Gino and that was with the Browns up by three at that point so they could have gone up ten. And so that was a huge momentum shifter potentially in the other direction. So yeah, big win. Hawks Ralliger did also want to know how


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[Assistant] Uh, so a loss for the Browns, win for the Seahawks, a win for the Jacksonville Jaguars defeat the Pittsburgh Steelers 20 to 10. It is Jacksonville's best start. They're six and two since 1999. They lead the AFC South by two and a half games right now. I think the player of the game in this one, I think you would probably agree with me. He was, uh, he was the big play guy.


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[Assistant] Travis Etienne. Yes. 79 yards on the ground. They fed him quite often through the air as well. Ripped off that big 56 yard or 70 yards total through the air. Travis Etienne, a playmaker. They didn't have a whole lot of big plays. Evan Ingram had one I think later in the game. They got just enough offense and the defense was rock solid against the Steelers.


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[Assistant] They outgained Pittsburgh 377 to 261. So Pittsburgh is one of two teams to be outgained in every game this season. And yet they are four and three. It's amazing. The other team that's been outgained in every game this season, who do you think it is? Oh, let me just come and look. Let me pull in Paul.


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[Assistant] Your Arizona Cardinals. Wow, it is the Cardinals. I didn't think- The other team, or the other team. Oh, it's on the bottom line right there. So the homies- Oh damn, look at that. Sorry homies, we gave it away on the graphic. Uhm, but-


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[Assistant] They're in there. Uh, Kenny Pickett left in the second quarter with a rib injury. Uh, so we'll see how long he is out. I don't know.


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[Assistant] So that closes the book on the Statement Wins category. Now we open up the book on the Taking Care of Business category. We start with the Miami Dolphins who defeat the New England Patriots. 31-17 was the score in this one. Tyreek Hill.


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[Assistant] Has 1,014 receiving yards, the most receiving yards through 8 games since Charlie Hennigan in 1961. I was thinking that too. I thought it was Charlie Hennigan too. I really did. I was like sitting there and I was like, man. Damn, who did Charlie play for? He's looking like Charlie Hennigan. Well, we all know who Charlie Hennigan played for. Pete, who did Charlie Hennigan play for?


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[Assistant] Is it the Oilers? I don't know. I'm not sure. It is AFL Oilers. It has to be an AFL team. I'm gonna be transparent about this. I'm just learning about Charlie Hennigan and the fact that he played. Don't worry.


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[Assistant] There it is, Charlie Hennigan with the Oilers in 1961, Elroy Hirsch, in 1950, Crazy Legs Hirsch, Don Hudson, Green Bay Packers in 1942, and then you got Tyreek Hill.


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[Assistant] We should get them all in a room together. I think that would be a cool room. I don't know how many of them are still alive. I hope all of them. I hope all of them. I don't think they are, sorry. Okay, alright.


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[Assistant] So the Patriots at two and six, it's their worst start since the year 2000. Tua improves to six and oh in his career versus the Patriots. How about that? He owns them. That is a notch in the belt. And we do have an early front runner for costume of the year. So I think we have a kid in the stands. This is phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Dolphins take care of business against the Patriots. The Baltimore Ravens took care of business once again. They swept up on my Detroit Lions last week and did not have the same margin of victory in this game against the Cardinals, just a touchdown when it was all said and done.


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[Assistant] Garbage time points a little bit for Arizona at the end of this one, but Baltimore is allowing just 15.3 points per game during their three game win streak. They're scoring many, many points. 38 last week against my Lions, 31.


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[Assistant] Uh, this week, there was a key play, uh, Gino Stone got an interception, his third straight game with an interception when it was a one score game. Um, but, uh, that pretty much sealed it and led to a short field going, Gus Edwards was almost unstoppable in this game.


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[Assistant] You said it last week, the Baltimore Ravens, they're now six and two. You talk about them as being one of the top three teams in the NFL. I think so.


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[Assistant] As competitive as the Cardinals have been, it is their worst start at 1-7 since 2006. They are averaging just fifteen and a half points per game during their five game losing streak.


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[Assistant] This is a weird trade deadline coming up here. I don't know what to expect. Right. I don't know. So I mean, they're just, yea, I don't know. It doesn't seem like the Cardinals feel like he is necessarily part of their future. Like, isn't that the vibe you get?


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[Assistant] Was more than the score indicated. The Eagles get a win that was by seven points. And this one was actually about what the score indicated. If not even closer than this, they get the 38 to 31.


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[Assistant] We saw Jalen Hurts have his first career game with 300 yards passing and four touchdowns, no interceptions, and his favorite target, once again, that guy that can make one-handed catches, catches over two other defenders, AJ Brown.


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[Assistant] Yes. I mean, what were you gonna say? Go ahead. Washington's offense is fun for me to watch. It is fun. They have so many talented skill players. Yes. That I like Sam Howell a lot. Right. When he's rolling. But early on in the game, Brian Robinson runs hard. No doubt. Of course, you know about him. Jahan Dotson, I always like him coming out.


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[Assistant] So then it was 31-24 after that and the Philly defense was able to hold up for the most part. Yeah, okay. From that point forward. Uhm, and we did see a variation on the tush push.


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[Assistant] Oh, I saw that. That's a big development. I saw that. You like that? Go ahead, lay it out there. You wanna lay it out there? It looked like they were gonna do it again, and I don't see exactly how they executed it, but they got the ball to Deandre Swift, who just went around the edge. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Cowboys may have played their best football today. They get a win 43 to 20. Now the Rams did help them out a little bit with a few things, a pick six and a block punt two for a safety. Uh, Dallas has been playing very, very well at home. They have outscored their opponents in three home games this season, 111 to 33.


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[Assistant] It's their fourth win this season by 20 or more points, most in the NFL. I mean that is, like, that's not nothing. There's something to be said about that. That's not nothing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you mentioned it, uh, Daron Bland to the first player in Cowboys history with three pick sixes in a single season. That's crazy.


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[Assistant] So for Dak Prescott, his seventh career game with 300 or more passing yards and four touchdown passes, including the playoffs. That is a franchise record. That's pretty cool if you hold a


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[Assistant] A franchise record for the Dallas Cowboys at the quarterback position. We did see Matthew Stafford leave in the third quarter with a thumb injury in this one. Uhm, so that is something to monitor. Another quarterback injury in the NFL this week.


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[Assistant] Uh, but here are the Jets and the Giants. Of course, there's no Aaron Rodgers in this one. And there's no Daniel Jones. And then in mid-game, there's no Tyrod Taylor in this one too, who went out with, what was his specific injury? Something in the ribs. A rib.


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[Assistant] Jets did win it in overtime, 13-10, and normally when a game goes into overtime, you say, well that was a really good competitive game, but our question that Pete wants to start this with, was this game so bad, it was good. Yes. So the teams combined for 24 punts,


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[Assistant] Maybe get a field goal. Which I didn't think there was any way they were gonna stop the clock after that play. They hustled up there. They got on the ball fast.


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[Assistant] He did a couple of the homies in here too. Amiri Jets says, damn okay, Thomas Morstead single-handedly won the game for the Jets. Dude is easily the best punter in the game. He did. These guys need more credits. He goes, is the turf to blame for the injuries? Feels like the Jets get hit with more than anyone. So he kind of took a right turn there, Amiri Jets. He wanted to get a two for one there. Uhm, what do you think about the, much has been made about the turf as the season has gone on.


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[Assistant] That is the plan. Okay, Daniel Jones hurt. Didn't play, obviously. And Saquon Barkley, I mean, he's just one leg. He's just one leg. He's got 36 carries in this one. The most in a game since Frank Gore in 2017. Ran for 128 yards, but one leg can't do it all. Can't do it all.


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[Assistant] For the New York Giants, they go down to the Jets in overtime. The Vikings go down. Their quarterback goes down. Kirk Cousins. I'm bummed about this. I'm a huge Kirk Cousins fan.


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[Assistant] I don't know where that puts the Vikings. I mean, they win this game over the Packers 24 to 10, but it almost feels like a loss. Cause I don't know how they function without Kurt Covey.


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[Assistant] No way. So Nick Mullins is on IR. He's on IR. I think he's got another game before he can come back. But yeah, none of these, none of these players are gonna bring you to the promised land. No, not to what? None of the alternative, not even, I mean, unless you're talking Kyler Murray, if you're gonna go big on something like that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so yeah, their worst start since 2005, they're 2-5 right now. I mean, their offense is non-existent. 15 points per game during their 4-game losing streak. Their leading rusher was Jordan Love today, with 34 yards.


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[Assistant] Maybe they should have drafted another quarterback last year. Maybe they should have drafted Will Levis as we go into the Will Levis category. As Pete notes, it's... He's just got his own category? Yea, yea. It's 11.30 at night on the East Coast right now, so we just, when we get to the end of it, we just, whatever the player that was big in that game gets the name of the category.


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[Assistant] That's true, that is true. No, Tannahill. Titans got the win over the Falcons. 28-23 was the score. Uh, Will Levis, Pete Notes here, the third quarterback with four touchdown passes in his NFL debut.


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[Assistant] Fran Tarkenton also did it. Marcus Mariota also did it as well. Uh, courtland858 says damn okay, Will Levis really looked like Josh Allen today. Do you still feel Levis is too rocked up for the position? So yeah, let's, let's take a look at what he did in a second here, but what were your reservations about him when you evaluated him in college?


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[Assistant] I just shut some of that up for sure. You just needed to see him with DeAndre Hopkins. Then you would have changed your mind entirely who had three touchdowns and over a hundred yards hooking up with Will Levis. So yeah, what, what did you, what did you make of the touchdowns, the throws? What did you see from him today?


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[Assistant] So he started the second half here, so Desmond Ritter was evaluated for a concussion in the third quarter, so I guess it was sometime in the second half. He was cleared to go back. He did not have a concussion. So it's like they determined he did not have one, and could have gone back in the game.


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[Assistant] But really they had no chance to win this game because Mike Vrabel now improves to a perfect 6-0 when coming off a bye. So Atlanta really had no chance, no matter who played it.


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[Assistant] Final two games on Sunday for that, we will go into the newspaper shop. It's time for give me the headlines presented by Hyundai. The shop is open.


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[Assistant] Three targets, three catches, 153 yards, and a touchdown. Basically going for 50 yards each time they threw it to him. He is...


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, they ran for 160 in this game. So yeaah, the Colts defense is certainly falling apart here a little bit.


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[Assistant] They've allowed 35 or more in the last three games in a row.


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[Assistant] One more game to talk about from Sunday. It was the first quarterback taken versus the second quarterback taken. Panthers versus the Texans. 15-13. Panthers get the win. Your headline for this game is... It is...


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[Assistant] And that was Give Me the Headlines presented by Hyundai.


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[Assistant] Don't forget, we had a game Thursday. Your comments on the Buffalo Bills getting a win, their fifth win of the season, beating the Buccaneers 24-18.


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[Assistant] It wasn't bad. Almost 5 yards to carry for him, but, uh, yeaah. Another win for the Buffalo Bills.


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[Assistant] We got one more game to go. We do? My Lions are gonna bounce back. Oh. In a ferocious way. I would expect them to. Restore the roar. Restore the roar. Against the Raiders at home. Uh, that's what I'm hoping.


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[Assistant] Yes. We will watch. We know you'll be watching. I will be watching. I will be glued to the television for that one. Wow, we did it and we had a good pace. Yeah. I feel like this was...


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[Assistant] Matt has a, you tweeted out something during our podcast. I did, I'm a multitasker. Uh, you said, serious question. Would you have been okay if the Giants had kicked off to start overtime after winning the coin toss? 56% of the people said yes.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, what's up everybody, it's Chris Sims unbuttoned, it's week 9, Ahmed Farid is here, it's 10.38pm, the Bills and the Bengals are going at it strong, it's 21.10, late third quarter right now, we got lots of stuff to hit on.


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[Assistant] And yes, there's still the question from the Jersey and New York meatheads at the gym will be, yeah, but who the dolphins beat? They just beat up on the bad teams in the NFL. So I'm going to hear more of that. But, uh, what's up, man? How are you doing? All right. Good to see you. You're on the way. You'd read it from the breeders cup. Was that the breeders


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[Assistant] It's a prestigious race. It's a cool setting. It's fun to watch. I tuned it in a little here and there.


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[Assistant] Well, I was watching, you know, college football on Saturday. My aunt, Wendy, who's your biggest fan. She kind of always keeps me up to date there. Good. So yeah. And listen, you know, you do the breeders cup, you have to know all those horses. I'll let you miss the Wednesday podcast. Yeah. So I'll let that happen. Other than that though, you better be here. All right, Connor.


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[Assistant] Uh, but yeaah, it's a special atmosphere. It is. It's really cool to see the German people embrace that. I love it on a Sunday morning, kind of waking up, drink coffee, sit on the couch, you know, before I start getting ready to come over here to NBC, but it's very enjoyable. You know, I think it's something we're going to continue to talk about here. You know, one, alright, I mean, Kansas City, we've been hitting on this.


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[Assistant] Hey, offense good, right? We know that. They're dangerous. So with Patrick Mahomes, a quarterback, but is it dangerous like years past? No, it's not.


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[Assistant] It's a little bit about, you know, just more execution, ball control. He does the right thing with the ball more times than not, except for last week against the Denver Broncos, you know, and so they're kind of playing that style of football. But again, continue here.


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[Assistant] Like I would either, but it's, it's worthy of saying. It's close, right? They're certainly top five.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm gonna take the Ravens and the Browns over them right now, for sure.


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[Assistant] Now, I think that's where you get into this matchup a little bit and what's kind of cool about it. See, the scheme of Kansas City, one, they do a lot of the things we talk about, right? Remember last year when we were talking about, hey, when you play Miami and you play Philadelphia, you can't sit there and think, oh, we're going to be sound and we're going to do everything. They have too many answers. You're never going to be right all the time, right?


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[Assistant] So the tactical blitzes, right, every now and then where, you know, we haven't brought this guy off the edge against this personnel all year, and then they bring it, right? So I think it's the curve balls that they bring to the table, and then the other thing that's just


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[Assistant] They're, they're arguably the best man-to-man coverage football team in the league. And I think that's the big thing that went on today.


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[Assistant] Nothing was easy for Tyree Kill. And you know me, I mean, for my money and as good as Tula and everybody else has been, the number one thing you have to worry about with Miami is if you slow down Tyree Kill, you usually slow down their offense. And that's the thing you saw. One, whether they, when they did play zone,


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[Assistant] They got hands on him and pushed him around, didn't let him just fly up on the field like we talk about with some teams where he's like, hey, it's the quarterback's in the middle of the drop, he's already past the safety, nobody touches him, makes a move, they just go, hey, here you go, right? So they didn't let any of that go down, but the big thing is,


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[Assistant] Their defensive line did not let Miami run the ball. Everyone's going to look at it and go, well, Mostard had 85 yards and I'm going to tell you that most of those came on like the last two drives of the game when the game was kind of done.


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[Assistant] Like it was like they were playing prevent defenses and like going, okay, run the ball. We'd like you to run the ball and let the clock run out here. Right. So in the competitive part of the game, Miami could not run the ball consistently. Well, they couldn't pass protect. Well, there was good blitzes like we talked about off of that. And then.


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[Assistant] They're one of the few teams I've seen so far that said, you know what, we'll get in your face and play man to man against all your guys. And that's because they got some dudes in Ligeria, Snead, McDuffie, and, um, uh, Watson.


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[Assistant] 23, uh, or not 23, the other young corner, uhm, I'm blanking on his damn name, who's really good too, has great length, but they were able to match up as my point.


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[Assistant] And not let Tua just go, oh here's a little play action, boom, you're wide open over the middle, right? So none of that. And you know what I've said, one thing I've questioned with Miami, which I think we're going to continue to question is,


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[Assistant] You know, obviously they're feasting on the poor right now. They're not. I mean, they played three teams with above 500 record here. Who'd the Dolphins be? Who'd they be? Exactly. It goes back to that. And I can't say that I can disagree with that at this point. I can't.


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[Assistant] It's a drastic difference and to me they, all those games had one thing in common and I know we've hit this on other pods is just that, you know, the


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[Assistant] We didn't see Mozart run with a screen for 50 yards down the sideline. We didn't see Tyree Kill catch a receiver screen for 35 yards. You know, like I said, we didn't see the little, ooh, there's a quick play action boom right over the middle. They weren't going to let any of that happen.


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[Assistant] And I think that was big. And then the other aspect we talked about with Miami, if you can get them to third down, that's when they're there to be had. Because now you don't have to worry about some of the screens, the speed sweeps, the reverses and all that. So you know it's drop back pass.


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[Assistant] And their O line is not great at pass protecting. And that's where Kansas City had their way too. I keep thinking Kansas City Ds are going to fall off or slow up because they're so aggressive. I've given up on that. Today was the official give up. Like they're real. This is going to continue this way all year long and a really impressive win by them as they're, you know, their offense is still


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[Assistant] Of course good, but finding its way, it hasn't hit a groove of domination.


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[Assistant] What, 175 when you add in the sacks and do all that, that changes the team sacks. I add in the sacks, that's what I do. Of course you do, you're a team guy. But 3 for 12 on third down like we talked about, right? They're not, that's not their best, they're at their best when you're at first and second down and you go, I don't know what they're about to hit us with, right?


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[Assistant] So, if you go back and look at the games where they just tore it up, they don't get the third down that much, cause it's like...


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[Assistant] Spags has gone to another level over the last year in my opinion with just his game planning and what he brings to the table on a weekly basis and of course the one he had in the Super Bowl was extremely impressive against the Eagles and has continued right on to this year.


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[Assistant] They can play, so I think that's a part of it too. It gives them more confidence to do some of this stuff. It's a great point by you, cause like Carl Aftis is continuing, I mean he shows up every week, Leo Chanel, the defensive linebacker is great, and then all the secondary players we talked about. Joshua Williams, was that the other guy? That's who I was thinking about, Joshua Williams. You know, Joshua Williams and Watson,


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, Watson number 35, they have great length and they're like low four three guys.


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[Assistant] I do too. I think that was the right scenario there. Plus, you know you're on the edge of the field, right? There's not like a bunch of people around you, so you're not, it's not like you're laddering the ball in the middle, like you picked up a fumble in between the tackles, right? And now there's like 75 people around you, and you go, whoa, be careful laddering the ball there.


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[Assistant] But you're out on the edge. He got spun around. I believe that was Lonnie Edwards, right? Uh, the safety. And he gets spun around and he recognizes, or Mike Edwards, excuse me, not Lonnie Edwards. He recognizes nobody's around.


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[Assistant] And to have the, the composure to pitch the ball to Cook who then turns it on up the sidelines.


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[Assistant] Huge play in the football game. You know, it really was. Cause it looked like it was 14-0, and oh, the Dolphins are gonna go down at least get a field goal to make it 14-3, if not 14-7, and they're gonna get the ball to start the third quarter. So you thought, ooh, this game still has a chance to get very tight and close here, and that of course took a lot of pressure off the juice.


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[Assistant] I mean, I can't imagine that he under-threw the ball that much. He did under-throw the ball that much. I don't know what he was thinking. Did it slip out of his hand? It could have. You're right. Because, I mean, again, you know I don't think his arm is great, but he usually doesn't do that to that extent, you know. But, but, I think, you know,


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[Assistant] Them being aggressive, they were gonna make two of them make a throw and beat them. They were gonna let Mike McDaniels dial something up where they were like, okay, it's just easy and now Tyreek's running, right? That, you could see that was their thing at the end, right? That was off the...


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[Assistant] You know, okay, so Mahomes fumbled, they get the touchdown, they make it 21-14, it's looking good, it's late in the game, yea. It's right at the end of the end, second to last play, second to last play. And they're playing man to man, and he kinda looked like he threw it off his back foot.


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[Assistant] And just tried to touch it up there a little too much. Like, oh, I'm just gonna be, give my guy a shot. It was way under thrown. And then the fourth down play, again, to our point with spags, they bring it all out blitz.


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[Assistant] They're going, we're going to keep the pressure on you. And if they dial up the right play or make a play, so be it. But, you know, they weren't going to go down playing some soft zone and just letting them get an easy completion to keep the game going.


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[Assistant] He's one of the greatest coaches of all time. I mean, that's the stratosphere he's gotten into here the last few years. And I think it's even shown with this, with the way they're playing and still winning and 7-2 and all of that and, you know, Mahomes in the passing game not


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[Assistant] And always having to throw for 350 for the Chiefs to win, and they're still finding ways to win, I think speaks to the totality of that football team. Alright, so the Chiefs...


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[Assistant] Well, we've been talking about them, right? I mean, we've done some breakdowns about what they're doing. It's the best defense in football, right? I'll take this defense over the Kansas City Chiefs. To me, it's the best. I just think


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[Assistant] There's aspects about that Brown's defense that I just go, oh yeaah, they're better in this department or whatever. I just think when you combine coaching with the personnel...


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[Assistant] And all of that together, I think Baltimore's the best. I love the scheme. When I watch it, Mike McDonald, they're so creative. You know, a little bit like we were just talking with Spags. They find, they're...


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[Assistant] Tactically aggressive, they'll take a chance every now and then where you go, oh man, that's creative right there. Ooh, that's gutsy. They did that blitz and kind of left this area voided and just played the percentages of they don't throw the ball here or they don't run the ball here in these situations. That's what I love about them, let alone like if they need to just play a basic and straight up, they can do that as well.


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[Assistant] Uh, so they're really special and then we've kind of been hitting out on the last few weeks on both sides of the ball going, they're special on both sides. Lamar's playing great. The run game, are you?


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[Assistant] Kidding me? To run for 298 yards on the Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks? I mean, he's a defensive coach. You know, his first thing all week was like, we can't let the run game get going, right? That's one of the reasons they're not good in past defense. They overplay the run to such an extent.


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[Assistant] That they've given up big plays in the past. And today, this is definitely one I'm gonna be excited to go back and watch to kinda see a little bit more of what Baltimore did. Uh, they had their way on both sides.


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[Assistant] You know, and I know I wrote in my notes one of the last few weeks. I think we said it on the pod. Maybe we didn't. I know I at least wrote it in our notes because this guy has popped a little bit. You know, they've given him a few gadget plays where you go, damn, he's got something to him here.


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[Assistant] I think today solidifies, like, he's gonna be in the rotation a lot now. It's gonna be him and Gus Edwards, I think, leading the charge here. Because, uh, it's, it's special top end speed and acceleration. I think it's the best on that football team right there. So they get him going with Lamar and the way he's running and throwing the football and spreading around, they're gonna be really, really tight.


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[Assistant] You know, like you said, it's dominant on both sides of the football. 515 yards of total offense.


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[Assistant] The Seahawks get a hundred and fifty-one yards? One?


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[Assistant] For twelve on third down, they can't even stay on the field throughout the game. They were dominated. This was a total ass whooping. And this is what I want to say too. The Seahawks are too talented to lose like this. They are.


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[Assistant] It's a little troubling where the offensive lulls they have at times when I want to go, wait.


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[Assistant] You know, like we've talked about, the tight ends, the receivers, the running back, the quarterback, they're all pretty damn good. It shouldn't ever be three points or damn, we go two and a half, three quarters against the Browns and don't score a point. Uh, that to me is a little concerning with them going forward.


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[Assistant] I like the talent, I don't love the system, and I think the O-line is just average. And I think that's all of that is leading to some ehh moments for that Seahawks offense.


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[Assistant] I think that would probably be the thing. To where teams in the AFC go, wait, we've got to see this or we played.


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[Assistant] You know, we've played them before, we've seen it on film, cause they played common opponents. Where I think some of the NFC teams are like, yea, we only see you once every four years, and we're like, woah, shit.


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[Assistant] There's a lot to this running game and this Lamar Jackson and we gotta stop, you know, uh, him scrambling the design runs, the regular runs. Oh shit. They can throw the ball down the field aggressively. They really got it all. I know for like, this is what our third week in a row where we've been saying,


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[Assistant] Watch out for the Ravens. I don't know if you can really say anybody's playing better football in the game right now than the Baltimore Ravens.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it feels like against these type of teams, they have to play like...


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[Assistant] And we've seen in the other games this year, they blow teams out because they're ahead early. Their defense flies around. They can be all creative. They pass rush goes crazy and all of a sudden you go, whoa, we're overwhelmed. And they blow you out, you know.


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[Assistant] I think there's encouraging things here, as far as Dallas. Like, nonetheless, Dallas is gonna come away with this game and go, hey, when they come to our place in December,


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[Assistant] We showed, we proved to ourselves, we can beat them, right? I think that's the big thing there.


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[Assistant] We get them on our stadium, on our field turf, where the game's faster and we're more conducive to that, you know, uh, environment.


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[Assistant] I think that's where they can sell that. I also think it was a really big game for Dak Prescott. To kind of just show like, you know, Dak Prescott's under tremendous pressure there. Nationally, and you know, locally in Dallas, because it's just like, if anything goes wrong, it's Dak Prescott's fault.


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[Assistant] And I hope nobody's saying that after tonight. I mean, Dak Prescott was phenomenal. He was the best player on the field today in the game. He made play after play after play. And a lot of them, again, were not like, oh, the system's delivering them. I mean, I would say like,


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[Assistant] You know, out of the ten biggest pass plays of the game, seven of them were him kind of escaping the pocket or on the move and finding somebody down the football field. So that is encouraging for Dallas, and I think they can sell to themselves when they play them again. Hey, if we do this and just fix this, you know, we can beat these guys, right?


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[Assistant] Now, the other problem is, like what you're saying.


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[Assistant] The Eagles give me, I said this to Devon McCourty, like late in the third quarter, I just went, I feel like the Eagles are like,


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[Assistant] Your old Patriot teams with Brady in it. Just, I just go, eeeh, even when you don't play your best, I go, it still feels like they're about to win the game. They're going to just find a way here somehow. Their team is too good in totality. They're coached too well, you know, on both sides of the ball. So even when their offense hit a low in the fourth quarter, I was like, well,


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[Assistant] Alright, I gotta see Dallas go down and actually score touchdowns to win this game against this defense, right? And they got close!


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[Assistant] But a lot of teams seem to get close against Philly and don't ever pull it out.


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[Assistant] You know, one special team with a guy wearing one and five and red and yellow that's been able to like kind of


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[Assistant] I think they realize they can take it to another level when they have maybe a little fear. I don't think Dallas scares them. I think Dallas is a big game and all that. I don't think they feel fear, right, when they're playing Dallas. I think they still go out there and go,


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[Assistant] They're good, but we're, you know, they're like our little brothers. We're still gonna win this game. We're gonna have to mess it up to lose. That's kinda how it feels like to me. Uhm, they're just...


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[Assistant] They, they have everything like we've talked about. Hertz played really good, he was efficient.


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[Assistant] You know, Dallas did a good job. It looked like they changed some things up on the defensive side of the ball. They did not go crazy aggressive man play after play. They played some more zones. You know, they kept AJ Brown and company in front of them for the most part of the football game. You know, you can only do that for so long.


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[Assistant] Uh, but yeaah, at the end of the day, it was the defense. Right tackle's gotta be an issue for Dallas. Steel at right tackle got abused consistently throughout the game, and especially towards the end of the game, you know, when they get three sacks in the last three minutes, five sacks total, and they were around Dak Prescott a lot, and he made some great escapes to throw the ball and get plays down the field.


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[Assistant] He has a very similar skill set to the sweat that just got traded to Chicago. It's long, it's not sexy to people, it doesn't jump off the screen all the time, but you start to watch him sing and you start to go, damn he gets around the edge a lot.


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[Assistant] Dammy moves his guy in the run game a lot. Dammy pushes his guy back into the quarterback a lot. And that's where he's, uh, damn special that way. Are they, they're not related?


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[Assistant] Unbelievable. Perfect spot for him, you know, gets to be the backup, come in situations like that, he's fresh, right? So, and that's where they're special too, is they can just send waves of guys at you. But yea, Brandon Graham, you know, off that right edge of the offense against Steele, uh, definitely some big moments down the stretch.


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[Assistant] The Bills drove down the field at 21-10. It was an impressive drive. They were going. He threw the ball over the middle to Dalton Kincaid, who kind of like jumped over somebody and they made him flip and as he was flipping the linebacker went by him and hit the ball and he fumbled before he hit the ground.


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[Assistant] And it was Pratt, Jermaine Pratt, second week in a row, big play by him. And then the, the Bangos got the ball and went on a long drive, got inside the 10 of Buffalo, but had to settle for a field goal. So now we're at 24-10 with 5.30 left. Allen's moving to the left. He was looking to throw a laser. He throws it short and it's incomplete at second and 10.


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[Assistant] This game is playing out just like our pre-game analysis would have said, and everything we've talked about these two teams, it's playing out just as you would expect. And so that's a little preview.


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[Assistant] You're there for four days. He probably sees Jaren Hall get hurt. And he's like, what? Like, I don't even know if you're happy to play at that point. I don't even know who just got hurt, but I think you


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[Assistant] He's still trying to figure out the language and some of the rules of some of the offensive plays. He gets thrust into action and it's ugly.


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[Assistant] For a while. I mean, it wasn't like he came in and you were like, oh man, look at this guy. He's a natural. It was a safety. It was another strip sack fumble. Exactly right. I mean, it looked like, oh man, this is, this is not going to be a good day or, you know, end the right way. In fact, he ended up having, I think, two strip sack fumbles on the day actually, but yeah, the safety.


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[Assistant] So early on in the football game, this is what I, Minnesota's defense saved the day early on. The fact that they held Atlanta to three field goals early on and the game was only 11-3 instead of maybe much worse, okay, that to me was one of the big gifts of the day.


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[Assistant] That they could, they couldn't punch in the end zone. It let, it let Minnesota hang around. And then there they were, 11-3.


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[Assistant] And they kind of got it going. And I feel like it was a big pass to TJ Hockinson that kind of jump-started the effort there. And they punched it in. They make it 11-10. And from that point on, kind of hung around the football game. And Dobbs, you know, even though it wasn't perfect by him,


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[Assistant] That was really all there was to it. And then made a few clutch throws at the end of the football game that were huge that way. Uh, I gotta give credit to Minnesota, though, in a lot of ways. For sure. You know, Heineken was solid. It wasn't great.


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[Assistant] I'm sure they were expecting or hoping for a little more in the benching of Desmond Ritter for Heineken. Uh, he did good, but it wasn't as efficient and still had those Heineken moments where you're like, oh.


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[Assistant] I can't believe he threw that, or ooh, that was a little dangerous there. But gotta give credit to the Vikings, the culture they have there, the battle-tested toughness that we talk about with a lot of good teams. Kevin O'Connell, head coach. Flores, the defensive coordinator.


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[Assistant] You know, finding a way to win a football game like that on the road with a quarterback that's been there for four days is truly remarkable.


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[Assistant] You know, gets in the huddle, he calls west right slot, 72 bingo, you split, right?


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[Assistant] And then, so he calls that, but I'm sure, you know, in a situation like that when you're still learning offense, you say the play, you say confident, like you know what you're talking about, right? But then you break the huddle and you're like, okay, wait, what do I gotta do? That's what happens as a quarterback sometimes when you're early on. And I think that's where, and I'm interested to hear more about this too, but I bet you O'Connell was more like,


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[Assistant] Okay, okay, so, hey, you're gonna look at X, X is gonna run the in-cut, that's the first read, you wanna go to Y second, and then, you know, find the check-down for number three. I would bet it was little clues like that, right? Or, hey, this play, call it and run it, but if you get the free safety blitz, we want you to check to this runner, whatever, just little,


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[Assistant] Inklings of things, just the reminders, checklists in your brain to go through, you know, and they're much more liberal with keeping that on. Back in my day, they used to cut it off when you broke the huddle, period. Break the huddle and it was cut off.


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[Assistant] Now, because teams kinda do the muddle huddle sometimes, or they go hurry up, or they stand around, they've kinda let it go til fifteen seconds.


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[Assistant] As far as on the Pycock, or like if you're under, or start setting the cadence, they basically stop it no matter what.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I think that gave him some time today to digest some things. And O'Connell being from McVeigh and the Rams. Cause they do that too, definitely. Right. You know, I got a lot of flack at one point cause I was like, damn, that's, the NFL shouldn't let them do that. I would do it if I was allowed to too. I wasn't saying they were wrong.


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[Assistant] I just felt like it was like cheating a little bit, but no, that's cut pretty commonplace throughout the NFL.


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[Assistant] Heinecke throws an interception. So they were up 21-13, you know, and there they were in a handful of plays and all of a sudden they were down 24-21. Those were both on the first play.


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[Assistant] Exactly. They were consecutive plays. I wasn't going to say that and I chickened out. So those were big moments in the game. And again, I don't want to not give credit to Minnesota. They deserve a ton of credit. But those are also things where...


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[Assistant] Those are somewhat self-inflicted by the Atlanta Falcons and, you know, we've seen just them have some moments like this all season long where, yeaah, being careless with the football, doing some stupid things, uh, whatever it may be, and that's why they're 4 and 5.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they can't, you know, you know, didn't get, pits the ball very much. I think that's what he's referring to. They had no Drake London in the game, so that hurt.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, right. And they were having a hard time running the football anyways. It wasn't a day where you looked at it and just went, oh, they're just gashing them and doing whatever they want. It didn't feel that way. It certainly didn't. You know, the big play of the game was the John U. Smith little screen pass or short pass that he ran up the sidelines for 60 yards.


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[Assistant] Hey yea, the passing game in Atlanta, Ritter, Heinecke, whatever you want to say, uh, it needs more work, regardless, and that's where they gotta dive in there and become a little more creative in that aspect.


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[Assistant] Dinkin' Dunkfest, like, oh he's throwing screens and they're running for 70, or he's, you know, running the speed sweep reverse where he just shovels the pass in front of them and the guy runs for another 60.


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[Assistant] I mean when they drop back to pass, it's like every time, it's like he's looking to throw at 15, 20, 25, 15, 20, 25. I think they had...


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[Assistant] Nine? Somewhere in that range? Nine 20 plus yard completions in the football game? I mean, that's insane. And then at a handful that were like 12 and 13, right? Or just on the cusp of it, 14. So,


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[Assistant] He is their team. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not even joking with this, right? I know this is a strong statement. Kinda said this on Football Night in America.


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[Assistant] I don't remember a rookie quarterback ever looking this good in my life, right? I mean, I'm dead serious. I'm not being, like, sensationalism or trying to be a head, like, I, it's every game this year, I've gone, damn, that guy's good and he belongs, like, from the get-go, against Baltimore Week 1.


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[Assistant] And now it's starting to go, like, every other week of going, belongs to him. He's the best quarterback on the field today. Damn, he's one of the best quarterbacks I saw all day. Period. At any team.


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[Assistant] I mean, so that's where it's special. Like, I'm really, I'm not even trying, like, you think of rookie quarterbacks that have done this, it's 14 touchdowns, 1 interception.


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[Assistant] Right? I'm thinking of special rookie years by quarterbacks. Of course, Dan Marino has the most special ever. Going way back. Right? And... Justin Herbert more recently. It was a damn good one. That's right. You know? But I think it's... I mean, you know, Mahomes didn't get to play his rookie year. His second year was the first year he played. That course was an amazing year. I get it.


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[Assistant] I'm telling you, it's few and far between with true rookie year looking like this, them trusting the offense to this capacity in a rookie quarterback's hands and just going, hey,


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[Assistant] You know, throw it all over the field. And he'd make so many good quarterback plays too.


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[Assistant] Where he hangs in the pocket and he waits for somebody to get open. Oh, nobody's open. Boom, he gets it out of his hand just real quick right before he's about to get hit. Check down, the check down gets six or seven yards. He's just got a great feel for the game. This game was a lot of fun to watch. The Bucks did a lot of really damn good things too. Baker Mayfield made a lot of big throws in the game.


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[Assistant] It really was fun to watch. It was one of the more exciting games of the day. Uh, and it kind of felt like, ooh, the Bucks are about to control the game. It was 20 to 10.


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[Assistant] And they hit the big Noah Brown deep crosser for a 75 yard touchdown.


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[Assistant] It kinda just went into a shootout from there on out. Cause it kinda felt like, oh, the Bucks got them. They're kinda stalling out a little on Houston's offense.


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[Assistant] And from that point on, it was just one big play after another by both offenses. And of course, yeaah, when it went 37-33, bucked, great drive by Baker Mayfield, he throws a great touchdown. And with that said, that's just not enough time.


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[Assistant] You know, they don't have that due to receiver that you're just gonna go, oh, he's gonna be able to, and it didn't matter. It's just the quality of the throws, and Bobby Slobich, the offensive coordinator, gotta give him a lot of credit the way he ties the game together and has made, you know,


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[Assistant] It's gone to the point of like, where they don't manage him at all.


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[Assistant] It's gone to the point of like, hey, can you win us the game every week? Right? It was ugly last week against Carolina. Uh, Carolina's D is good though. They've made, they've made life miserable for Kirk Cousins in Minnesota a few weeks before that. Right? But yeah, I mean, for a guy that doesn't have like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, it's, it's, they're, they still like the pass rushers. Uh, I think that's something to look at. You know, I think they're, they're building their


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[Assistant] That scheme is not easy just to figure it out for a bunch of young guys. It's their first year in it. And there's a lot of rules in it. And we talk about it with the 40 dash. Steve Wilsch is trying to figure out that same scheme right now. And he's a smart guy who's been around football a lot, a lot. So, you know, they got young guys that are getting, learning the system. Probably still learning some of the intricate details there. You know, but they got young talent.


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[Assistant] Nick Kiserio's done a really good job, their draft picks, a lot of them have hit, and I questioned a few of them, and I was like, eh, I don't know if that's great.


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[Assistant] They, uh, they've built quite the football team there, and yeaah. You know, the offseason, they acquire a few more pieces for that defense there. They're gonna be a handful on that side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Uh, it was a 12-place, 75-yard drive, so they, down by 6. It's over. It's over. They're taking a knee. It's over. The Bengals came out super aggressive, up by 6, and like threw the ball, and we're like, we're not gonna go down, running the clock out, seeing Josh Allen get the ball one time. Uh, Borough made some big plays to close it out.


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[Assistant] I think I got a pretty, I mean, Buffalo's gonna be a, I know a handful, as long as they got that guy at quarterback, they're gonna be a pain in the ass. Buffalo, I just worry that, you know, the same thing we always talk about. You know, the offense is still...


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[Assistant] Oh, I think they're still finding their way, and it's week nine. I do think they're trying to adjust on the fly of starting to feature other guys, get the ball to other guys, in other guys' hands, they're doing their best. Dalton Kincaid had more targets.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, and, and, and, you know, this is one of those games too where there's a tough matchup for Buffalo. It is in a lot of ways. You know, the other side of that is Buffalo, I don't think has enough studs on the defensive side of the ball to hang with a team like Cincinnati. I just don't.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it would have been very interesting. Their scheme is not conducive to stopping Cincinnati, like we talked about. Buffalo plays a ton of zone.


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[Assistant] When they played Zones tonight, Joe picked them apart. Now they took some chances, Buffalo, that I don't see them normally do. They did dabble a little more man, and brought some blitzes tonight, because I think they realized if we play our normal way, we're not gonna get it done. He's just gonna slowly tear us apart. He tore them apart anyways. He went 31-44 for 348.


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[Assistant] Right? And, I mean, he had a damn good day. And they got Higgins a few times when they played man to man on him, where they went, okay, we'll take a shot. They almost hit Jamar Chase on a deep post that we saw right before we came on. You know, so, Buffalo to me is gonna be like this the whole year. I don't think Buffalo, there's any way they can win the AFC East. I don't think so.


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[Assistant] You know, I, you know, we'll see. I don't know. Miami, again, of course, is not as good as maybe we thought.


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[Assistant] I don't see Buffalo dominance coming at any time in the near future is what I'm saying. I just don't see enough quality football players that way. And then with a team like, you know, Cincinnati, they're


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[Assistant] Got a good front four, they got two good linebackers, they're good in the secondary, and then they got a defense that...


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[Assistant] You know, like we talk about all the time, you don't know what their coverages are or what the hell they're doing sometimes. The way they're disguised is so game plan specific. And the Bengals offense has found its groove, like we've talked about before, of just their ability to wait. This is how they play us, we like to go to these plays, you know, they're getting a little more creative.


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[Assistant] But the O-line being healthy, Borough being healthy, we're seeing what's happening there, and the defense is continuing to get better, and I think the Bengals are on a...


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[Assistant] True upward trajectory and the bills are kinda plateauing and gonna play like survival ball from here on out.


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[Assistant] It would be out. Yeah, it's not shocking. And, you know, again, these are things that


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[Assistant] You know, we questioned about them before the year. And we'll see where it goes. Now they got unlucky with all the injuries like you talked about. Uhm, but, but, uh, yeaah, there's some concerns with Buffalo. We'll see if their offense, I think their offense is gonna have to carry.


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[Assistant] It just feels that way. Uh, I think their defense could be solid sound, but I don't think they're gonna be dominant and be able to just shut teams out. I don't think that's happening. So we'll see if they can continue to spread the ball and find the right way there, but watch out for Cincinnati. Uh, I mean, right now, Kansas City, have you made me rank the AFC? I'm gonna go Baltimore.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe give Kansas City the second lead there, but Jacksonville and Cincinnati are right there in that class with them, I think, as the top four teams in the AFC.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean Cleveland's special on the side of the ball. And then you couple it together with, you know, uh, like,


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[Assistant] A not necessarily bell cow running attack by Arizona. They've kind of done it with bells and whistles and Josh jobs running the ball a little bit and quarterback design runs and through trickeration.


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[Assistant] Right, no James Connor in the football game, and you're starting a rookie quarterback? I mean, really? Like, could you pick a worse place for a rookie quarterback to start his career? Hey, you're only gonna play Cleveland, they're only one of the best defenses we've seen in football over the last few years, and you're gonna go to Cleveland, you know?


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[Assistant] And, and, you know, deal with the elements and you're by the lake and it's windy and all that. I mean, they had no chance. Clayton Toon had no chance of success in this football game.


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[Assistant] You know, the warm weather guy used to do a humid ball and throwing it all around.


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[Assistant] Get right, get back game for Cleveland. I'm sure they were sick after losing to Seattle last week. They probably felt like that, you know, slipped away from them.


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[Assistant] Arizona's defense did okay. They kept them in the football game for a long time.


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[Assistant] Right? Watson was not necessarily sharp to begin with. They weren't dominating in the ru- running the ball early on.


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[Assistant] But as it slowly went on, Watson made some big plays, hit Amari Cooper a few times, he scrambled a few times, their defense created some, you know, short fields and turnovers, and it was kind of just a boring ass whooping by Cleveland over the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] They gotta, we gotta see what Kyler Murray is. I would think they gotta see him first and kinda just get a feel for him, the person, his skill set as a player, how it fits in their offense, and where do they wanna go from there.


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[Assistant] You know, they could be, hey, we have the number one pick in the draft, we're good with Kyler Murray, and now, get a King's Ransom.


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[Assistant] For somebody else that wants Caleb Williams, right? Yeaah. You know, so there's a lot of ways this could go, and I would think they gotta, you know, continue to evaluate this whole situation, but, you know, Cleveland, if they can get Deshaun Watson going,


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[Assistant] He made a big throw, an awesome throw to Cooper, you know, early in the game. He needed another one later in the football game. If they can get him going throwing the football and become dangerous in that department, you know, Cleveland's gonna be there until the very end and getting the playoffs and be a real pain in the butt for whoever they are.


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[Assistant] Secret Bagen, man, they were moving the ball, he was running, he was making throws, I mean, hey listen, he, they got something there, and I know they got Justin Fields, but you got something in Tyson Bagen who's, you know, he's showing the physical abilities of an NFL starting quarterback.


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[Assistant] No, probably not. Probably not. You know, I know he had the three interceptions, you know.


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[Assistant] One was a good play by the defender. The other, you know, the last one I think he threw, the guy opened over the middle. He, he threw it behind the guy.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, the big story of the day was Paulson Adabo getting two interceptions, also forcing a fumble, doing all that. But yea, early on in the football game, I mean the game was kind of going back and forth and it was fun to watch. It was.


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[Assistant] I'm just a little loose with the football and the Saints having some playmakers on D, you know, never like...


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[Assistant] You know, what do I want to say? Never, I don't remember any huge big pass plays. They challenged the Bears is what I was trying to say. You know, as far as it looked like they were going to make Bajan make throws. He did that early on, but as the game went on, yeaah, he made a few mistakes and, you know, Saints.


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[Assistant] It's encouraging. It's good they won the game. It was kind of bleh. I don't know how to feel about the New Orleans Saints, right? Cause I'm looking up and down like a demon.


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[Assistant] Car was pretty good throughout the day. It didn't blow you away, but yeaah, it was one of those days again where you expect a little bit more out of that New Orleans offense and some of their explosive football players there.


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[Assistant] You know, Bears continue to fight, do the right thing there. It's just, yea. They're, they're young, turning the ball over. You know, not a ton of talent on the defensive side of the ball. You know, it's gonna be an uphill battle for them all year. The Saints, I feel like,


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[Assistant] Beautiful. That was one of the worst performances of the year by the Giants. It was the worst because...


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know, it was the worst I thought the Giants defense looked all year.


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[Assistant] That was the shocking thing. I mean, the Raiders and Adon O'Connell kinda came out and made plays in the passing game from the get-go. Right?


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[Assistant] And we've seen the Giants defense play remarkable and keep them in a lot of football games.


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[Assistant] So I, I don't know if there was some curve balls thrown to them because of the coaching changes and they didn't, some things that they did that broke tendencies, whatever it may be, but I was shocked to


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[Assistant] You know, the way they moved the ball. Josh Jacobs ran the ball pretty effectively. And then, I mean, all air got taken out of the Giants when Daniel Jones hurt his knee. I mean, trying to move in the pocket, he jams his right leg in the ground, his right knee kind of collapsed, and it didn't look good.


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[Assistant] You know, the guys in the viewing, Pete, they'll tell you as soon as he did it, I was like, oh no. Yeah. Right? And he kinda saw it, and then he came back in the game. They called a timeout.


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[Assistant] And they came back in the game and he didn't do anything on the sideline to test it other than just like, ooh, it feels weird, right? He drops back to pass and he couldn't even step up in the pocket. His leg gave out and he just fell to the ground.


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[Assistant] So, that's not a good sign. Uh, I know there's people that think it's an ACL. We'll see where it goes. We'll get the report Monday. Obviously there's something there with some sort of knee ligament. I just hope it's not the ACL and something really long term.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the season's over. I mean, you know, I think they realized that last week. That's why they traded Leonard Williams, right?


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[Assistant] So, now it's just about playing tough, figuring out your roster, evaluating guys, where you want to go from there. They're going to still play and try to win some of these football games, but you got Danny DeVito, I mean Danny DeVito, Tommy DeVito, and Matt Barclays, the two quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, at least they threw the ball with them this week, and like, trusted them to do a little of that. Right? But yeah, even that, that was, you know, a lot of it was, the game was out of control, and they were down, and I'm sure he got some easy looks there.


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[Assistant] But yea, offense is going to be a struggle with Tommy Devito, Matt Barkley, whoever, and Tyrod Taylor who got put on IR, he can't come back for a few weeks.


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[Assistant] You know, is he as explosive as Micah Parsons or, you know, JJ Watt or TJ Watt or some of those guys? I don't think he's as explosive.


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[Assistant] But he does it a little more with some instincts and motor and, and, you know, great pass rush moves. But I do think he's in the class of them. There's no doubt about it that he is one of the best. Nick Bosa, Parsons, TJ Watt, Max Crosby deserves to be right in that conversation.


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[Assistant] He's got a variety of pass rush moves, right? He's got great length so he can get off blocks in the run game of the pass game. And, you know, he's special that way. And the fact that he just never takes a playoff and he's always just...


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[Assistant] Hair on fire. Crazy man. I didn't add Myles Garrett into that conversation we just said too. He's also in that class, obviously.


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[Assistant] He doesn't know what the hell he's doing, but he's having fun going crazy. That's an unbelievable moment. Good for them getting the win. They too.


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[Assistant] They've struck gold in my opinion with the head coach. Okay. That's the first thing. You know, I know we've broken them down a little bit on the pod and done some of that.


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[Assistant] You know, I said something to Connor Rogers last week, or maybe it was to you on Sunday night, like their run game and what they do there. To me, Shanahan's the only one that's more creative in football with some of their run game design. He's got a great drop back pass game and play action pass game to go with it. This wasn't easy for them, right? It wasn't like they carved up the Panthers or anything like that.


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[Assistant] Right, I mean, you know, overall, it was, it was some...


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[Assistant] Uh, tough drives early on in the football game, right? They kind of moved the ball down the field and then they kind of disappeared on that side of the ball for a while.


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[Assistant] Uh, field goal drive. Colts answered right back with another one. It's 13 to 3.


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[Assistant] And you're going, okay, you know, here goes Bryce Young and them and they'll drive down and maybe we'll make a game of this and see if they can make it 13-6, 13-10, wherever it goes. He throws a bad throw, Kenny Moore intercepts it, picks six, and then, you know, it really was a stalemate of a football game. And then Bryce Young throws a screen pass to the running back and throws it over his head and


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[Assistant] Kenny Moore was there, Johnny on the spot, pick six again, and that was all she wrote for the football game. So, you know, Panther's defense, as we've talked about, is a pain in the butt. Uh, the Colts did this today with, you know, kind of gritty offensive play.


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[Assistant] You know, lose the ball or turn it over and they let the Panthers kind of screw the game up and that's how they won it.


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[Assistant] His arm is only an average NFL starting arm. I, that's just my thought there. I watch too many throws, you know, people at MBC Ontario just go, ehh. You know, there's just, there's not enough


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[Assistant] Wow throws, big moments like that, right? I think that's what concerns me, but again, those are things he can improve on and as he gets more uncomfortable, maybe puts his foot in the ground and drives the ball a little more, maybe he'll get better in that. He's slick, he's got feel, he's got all of that.


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[Assistant] They don't have a ton of weapons around them. I do like their system. But yes, arm strength and then you add in like size and maybe reluctancy to hang in there and drive the ball at times because he's a little worried about, ooh, I'm going to get hit so let me throw it off my back foot.


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[Assistant] Those are the things that concern me about Bryce Young as we watch. What would he look like as a starting quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers?


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[Assistant] Well, he would look better. That's for sure. We know that. Would he look like Brock Purdy?


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[Assistant] I'm not ready to say that yet. No. The one thing I see, see the one thing like Brock Purdy has, and we saw last week and all that, Brock Purdy can stand in there and make some throws down the field, right?


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[Assistant] You know, even though he's not a real big guy, he's pretty thick and got a little build to him.


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[Assistant] So, to your point, and I know we always play that game, he would definitely be better. And they need to put more weapons around him, certainly.


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[Assistant] And I'm trying not to be too critical, because there's things I like about him in the game. You know, but he's not CJ Stroud, I know that.