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[Assistant] He can really run, and I also think, you know, because of his vast skill set, it kinda hurt him to know her name.


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[Assistant] You know, to where they were like, well, wait, our tight end here, he can, this tight end can only play tight end. But we got this other guy that can do all these, so let's use him. Oh, but we don't have a play that's strong up for him to catch the ball at that position. And that hurts him, you know, so, uh, again, that's why I think, you know, to what we're saying here, he's made for the NFL.


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[Assistant] If there isn't COVID-19, I mean, there's a top 20 talent. You know, again, it's another intriguing thing to this drought. I just, where does he go? I don't know. He's, he is


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[Assistant] Definitely one of the most talented guys in the draft. He is Nate Soldier. Yeah. Uh, from New England in his prime. I mean, he's way better than Nate Soldier coming out in the draft.


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[Assistant] These long arms, unbelievable feet, strength is the real deal. I mean, the ability to move in space, you name it, this guy's got it. So, uh, yeaah, there's not a lot of talk about him.


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[Assistant] But, like, there's, from what you do see on film, there's no technique issues, there's no physical issues at all. You know, yeaah, he COVID-19 opted out, and he tore his ACL in his first game the year before that. So it's been two years since he's played. And that's gonna scare teams. Definitely. But, uh, I'm still thinking,


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[Assistant] Somewhere in the second. Wow. Maybe early third. I just think he's too freaking talented. And again, we're talking about a draft where there's limited elite players in the draft. I think you could see these guys get overdrafted more this year than maybe years past too. Guard Aaron Banks from Notre Dame. Man, I mean.


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[Assistant] Looks like a tackle. It looks like a tackle. I mean, probably could do it, really. His feet are not ideal for tackle play, but they're good enough.


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[Assistant] But here's the guy that just, again, all we do is talk about the same main guys that are the first round offense alignment. Banks is just on the edge of that. Like, I thought about Banks at pick 31 to Baltimore. I thought, Ravens need offense alignment.


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[Assistant] Banks is their type of guy, big hulking guard to just blow people off the ball who can move well enough to pull and do all that when you need. Plus, he's coached like an NFL player like we've talked about in Notre Dame. So he has all of those things going for him. Like, I would be shocked if Aaron Banks doesn't go in the second round for sure.


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[Assistant] He could be a su- this, this, if you had to call my shot, right, to go, who's the first around offensive lineman who's gonna be a superstar? Or like, the guy.


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[Assistant] Gonna look good on film. Like, let's just say, you're the guard. I'm Jackson Carmen, the tackle.


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[Assistant] Alright, I got my guy, you got your guy, right? There's a D tackle over you, there's a D end over me. They'll do...


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[Assistant] Your guy, they're gonna do a twist, right? And switch. Now your D-tackle's running at me, and my D-end's going behind him and running at you.


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[Assistant] They tell, they tell their team to go, no, you still take your guy. Even though that tackle is running into you, we'd like you to get around him or move around him and still block that huge human being who's running at full speed over there. So there's some plays where you go,


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[Assistant] The bangles go Jamar chase. Maybe he's the guy that they go at the top of the second round.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I think seven, maybe. I mean, you can dress as many as you want, but you just gotta be careful. You got numbers issues.


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[Assistant] That's great flexibility and it's great insurance in the draft pick in general. You just go, well if he fails at this one, at least he can do the other one. So that makes them feel better about picking the guy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm a big fan of Rashad Weaver, as you know. Uh, I mean, we, again, we talk about, there's three...


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[Assistant] True, hands down, elite guys in the draft, to me, and that's, again, Jalen Phillips, Quiddy Pay, Jason O'Way. Then you get into that, that next group of guys, you know, and to me, that's where Rashad Weaver is. You know, Joe Tryon is gonna be off the board.


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[Assistant] Almost 260 pounds, and he runs 4-6. And for those teams that like fast DNs, you know, there's not a lot of them to go around in this draft. So he's gonna go. You know, I think he's gonna go and pick 22 to the Jets. You know, Aziz Solidjari from, from Georgia.


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[Assistant] You know, same type of thing. Bigger guy, good athlete. There's not a lot of them in the draft. He's gonna go in the first round of the top 40 picks for sure.


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[Assistant] You know, so then I get to the, who's the next guy after that to go, ooh, this guy could be a double digit a year type sack guy. For me, that's Rashad Weaver. Got it all. I mean he really does.


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[Assistant] The length can be deceiving as far as the explosiveness is concerned.


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[Assistant] Backs up my thought of what I saw on film. How fast? You know, I, I, I don't even know what his 40 time it was. It was more of the three cone and the, I mean the, uh, 510.5 and the three cone drill. He killed it to make me think, hey, there's the bend and like the short area quickness and explosiveness that I thought about. Or at least that jumped out to me.


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[Assistant] And even the other safety, other corner they got out of Auburn. Both from Auburn. Uh, yeaah. What the hell is the other guy's name? I'm gonna blank number 35. It begins with a D. He was another guy a few years ago. Yeaah. Again.


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[Assistant] They fit the mold of Chris Sims in What I Like a Corner. There was film, Auburn goes, you got that guy. And I go, oh, okay, that guy can cover that guy all the time. Unbelievable. And they are, you know, low 4-4, high 4-3 type of football players. It's gonna kill me. I gotta look.


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[Assistant] I've heard buzz about him early on in the process, just haven't heard a lot about him. And again, here's a, it's a COVID opt, a COVID opt out. But, uh, just.


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[Assistant] You know, again, straight line speed, the ability to accelerate and break on the ball is as good as there is in the draft. And then he's a heat seeking missile when it comes to tackling. So hasn't been a lot of buzz about him. I don't know if he's gonna go in the first round. It doesn't sound like that, but I think he's a guy that


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[Assistant] Yeah, Cary Vincent's a guy that didn't make my top corners. He was...


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[Assistant] A tough eval. The physical abilities there. I don't know if he's a nickel or a safety or what he is. He played safety at LSU, but they played him in a spot that is very odd, where he was like, at some points, Paul, like how to play nickel


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[Assistant] But he was also playing it safe. It's like they were trying to get him to play both positions. It's like, hey, we want you to cover this guy, but also be back and play safety.


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[Assistant] You're gonna have to cover this guy from 12 yards off, and now he's gonna get to run at you full speed, and go whatever way he wants, and we want you to cover. So there's some underwhelming plays. It's a tough spot, you know, it goes back to like our Clemson tackle. You just go, I don't care, you can put Dion Sanders there, there's gonna be some issues with that kind of technique, or what they're asking him to do. But too good of a football player, a lot like,


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[Assistant] Xavier McKinney last year out of Alabama. That kind of guy. Nickels, safety, I don't know. Just a good football player I want in the back end who can kind of do everything. And I think that's where he'll fit. And I think he's another guy that's somewhere in the second round.


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[Assistant] And... You didn't have one going in the first round. No. And because, you know, here's a guy that he tore his ACL early on last year in the season, so he won't go there. But...


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[Assistant] 4-3 speed. It doesn't matter. Like Michael Carter, we were talking about him, right? He breaks a run against North Carolina. Andre Hisco runs him down.


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[Assistant] He is real deal that way. And again, I think undervalued a little bit, and I've heard this from people like


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[Assistant] You know, there's some really bad plays on tape. And I just want to go, again, it goes back to the whole thing. At safety, he's asked to do things that other safeties were just not asked to do. And some of it, I just go, it's not realistic to succeed. I don't care who it is. And, uh, I think that's going to hurt him, but he'll be interesting to see where he goes.


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[Assistant] Such high end talent. What's your guess? There's some underwhelming film because of some of the things I talked about. And then the torn ACL. Round two? Late two probably. Very more likely.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I just, I mean again, he's the Chris Sims crush, you know, he's my man crush. These are my man crush people right here. And he's smaller, but I just, when you talk about giving no f-


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[Assistant] About yourself and hitting people, nobody exemplifies that more than Ardarius Washington. I mean, he's a heat-seeking missile. As I told you, I think at the time when we did the safety breakdowns, he doesn't care if he gets run over either. He's coming. It doesn't matter. And you're gonna fall down. You might trip over him, he might knock your feet out from underneath you. Either way, that's what's happening.


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[Assistant] I just looked at him and just go, it's honey badger. Now he's gonna probably be


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[Assistant] You know, I think the big thing is, is, I wasn't sure maybe if it was like, is he a nickel?


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[Assistant] Is he a true safety? You gotta kind of find a niche for him a little bit there. You know, you don't want him to be an in the box, right? Like playing five yards, that's not his game. He's gonna lose a lot of battles if he's asked to do that. So I guess that's where I kind of just had a little trepidation about, you know, where you put him exactly.


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[Assistant] The biggest reason is just the consistency of the throwing. I think that's the big thing. And you know, again, I, when I did the quarterback rankings, I think, I'm pretty sure I said, you know, again, it was really close for Fields and Lance to me. I gave Fields the advantage only because he's played. That was really it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was one of those things where I think the more and more I went through it, and even just seeing other guys, I became a little less impressed with fields, and...


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[Assistant] You know, maybe gave Lance some benefit of the doubt with going like, man, they're offense, it's not the greatest, doesn't have the talent around them, and I do think the throwing is just more consistent from that standpoint.


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[Assistant] I did, I did. You know, again, I have friends in the NFL that think I'm crazy for having Mond ahead of him, but I'm a Mond fan. And I think he translates to the NFL for sure. So I'm not gonna budge off of that.


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[Assistant] Jack Wilson's number one. It is. And, you know, hey, the good conversation about arm strength is always like,


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[Assistant] You know, okay, arm strength that's usable. Okay, let's just say that. You know, again, do I sit here and wonder?


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[Assistant] But I would go, but I'm not sure he's always gonna hit the wall. That would be my concern. So is it worth throwing it that hard if you can't hit, you know, the big wall bullseye or whatever?


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[Assistant] But as I continue to watch and then see the pro day and all that and everything, you know, Zach Wilson's arm is the strongest in every position in every which way. It's the most explosive, it's the quickest release. Whatever you want to say, Zach Wilson has the strongest arm in the draft.


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[Assistant] No, he's not. I'm gonna go with Trey Lance here. Okay. I am. You know, again, I'm taking a little bit of account of like...


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[Assistant] Yeah, you gotta throw it hard, but you gotta be able to control the ball a little bit too. I don't need like Charlie Sheen in Major League and just like, just a bit outside. Ball 9, ball 12, ball 16. You know that, okay great, he's throwing a 107, he hasn't hit the catcher's glove in 7 minutes. So like, uhm,


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[Assistant] I gave Trey Lance. Trey Lance, he controls the ball pretty damn well. I don't, of course, love his technique to throw the football always, but his arm and the power, it's real. And I'm gonna give him the number two ranking here. Wilson one, Lance two. Who do you have at three? This was a tight one here.


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[Assistant] This really was. I'm gonna go with Trevor Lawrence, but I was really close between him and Mond here. Mond's arm is powerful. It really is. I guess where, you know, I give Lawrence the advantage is this.


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[Assistant] Maybe his arm's a little more powerful in awkward positions.


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[Assistant] Right? That's where I'd probably get into that a little bit. You know, Mond is a little bit more prototype, always staying in the right position, throwing wise, has really good mechanics. You know, all of those type of things. So this was a close one for me. It really was.


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[Assistant] But I am gonna go with Trevor Lawrence, just a little bit over Kellen Mann. And then, yeaah, I put field six, even though, listen, I know his arm is really strong.


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[Assistant] There's gotta be a little combination of strength and accuracy to go along with it. I can't go like, oh it's really strong but you missed the target.


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[Assistant] I mean, he was really cutting it loose. Yeah, I like to hear that. And he can cut it loose. I mean, and again, too, like, you know, you've heard me say there's, there's some mechanical things I think he can fix. And one of the things I said during my draft and doing that is just the rankings and everything. If he could fix some of those things.


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[Assistant] You know, he'll will have one of the strongest arms in football, if not the strongest.


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[Assistant] You know, so there is something to that. And really, listen, another thing that, you know,


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[Assistant] And I challenged somebody to go back and look. I mean, Trevor Lawrence looks a little different in his uniform when they, you know, lose the national championship game to LSU and Joe Burrow. There's a little more muscle, you can see the definition, there's a little thickness in his arms, things like that. This year there was definitely


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just felt like there was more throws I saw from last year compared to the year before where, like you heard me say, off balance, foot's over here, like that type of stuff. But I mean, again, Trevor Lawrence is a stud.


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[Assistant] Five is Fields. Five is Fields. Yeah, Mack Jones is six. Okay. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Well, and again, we're talking about, you know, some guys here that got legit arms. Right. There's no doubt about that. And it's not to the point here with a guy that I'm going...


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, he's 6. He can't really throw the go route or make, you know, the post route throws or anything like that. That's not an issue. So that's why it's not an issue to be 6 here in this little ranking right here.


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[Assistant] Who knows where he's going to be ranked on these next few, these next categories. And the next one is mechanics. He's won. He's won. There you go.


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[Assistant] So, there's nobody with better mechanics in any way than Mac Jones. It's a real, it's perfect every time. Base, the foot, the footwork.


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[Assistant] Whether that's the drops, whether that's the having the proper foot placement as he's gathering to throw to get all his power.


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[Assistant] You know, how it's lined up according to where the target is, anything like that. You know, keeping the ball two hands underneath his chin, has a little movement, gets front shoulder turn, all of those type of things. His mechanics are


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[Assistant] Always ready to go. Exactly right. And then that allows him to throw the appropriate ball off of that because his body's always in the right position. So, for mechanics, he's number one.


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[Assistant] Number two is, I'm gonna go with Kellen Maughan. As far as the pure mechanics of throwing the football, there's no moving parts with Kellen Maughan.


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[Assistant] There's nothing. The only thing, like I told you, with Kellen Mann, is I wish he was just a little more relaxed and loose to the ball. And not being so like this. And if you're watching on YouTube, you know,


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[Assistant] Holding the ball really tight underneath my chin with, you know, the elbows pointed out. It can look a little stiff. It can. And that's, you know, here's another thing too. That's Jimbo Fisher. That's, again, don't forget he's being coached to do this. Jameis does the same thing. Think about it.


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[Assistant] You know, that, that can happen. So, but his throwing just from pure mechanics wise.


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[Assistant] Is really, really special. And it's also why his accuracy is special. And I believe he had more completions in the tight windows than any other quarterback in the draft. And that's why he throws a perfect spiral every throw. And all of those type of things. Because it always, you know, is clean with his arm angle and everything about it.


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[Assistant] I'm going to go with Zach Wilson. He's number three. Yep. Uh, Wilson.


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[Assistant] Even though it's, it is loose and backyard a little bit, right? There's still all the key components to being a great thrower.


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[Assistant] Uh, that happened on a play-by-play basis with him. Now, where he's not as a machine maybe is like, mawned.


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[Assistant] Or Mac Jones says there are times where he can let his feet get a little lazy. Cause he's so good at upper body turn and his arm is so gifted that he can have maybe sometimes his feet be a little like stagnant.


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[Assistant] Now come on, hop under there. Get your, get all of it here. If you want to throw the laser here, right? Don't just try to do it with a little turn and flick of your wrist. So, there's a little of that and...


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[Assistant] On his negative throws, he can lean forward a little as a thrower. It's few and far between, but again, you know the guys I talked about before, the before him, they're almost perfect every single throw.


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[Assistant] So Wilson's got a little there to where he's got to stay on top of, most gifted thrower, all of that type of stuff, but the mechanics aren't the machine like the other two. Makes sense. And at four. Number four.


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[Assistant] It's between, uh, I'm splitting hairs here between, I'm gonna go with Trevor Lawrence. Alright, and you've heard me say that this is where we're getting into, there's some mechanical issues there. Just a little bit of everything with Lawrence.


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[Assistant] I've seen enough to know he can do it the right way but the reason he's not number one is cause sometimes the foot's over here.


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[Assistant] Sometimes he arches his back to throw the ball, and he kind of falls away as he throws it. A lot of times they're completions, and I'm not going like, oh no, that's horrible, but I'm just going,


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[Assistant] Wait, in the NFL, that window could be really close and you can't hit that guy on the back shoulder. It's gotta be, you know, one foot in front of the number or something like that. And that'll be the difference in that, right? That footwork or the leaning of the back and all that type of stuff.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with him there at number four even though there's some things to clean up for sure. Sounds like the guy at five almost was number four. Yea, Lance is there. Lance is right there with him. You know, where I don't love Lance, like there's things to like because there is that little rhythm he has where he dips his shoulder.


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[Assistant] And then does that. So it can, can lead to consistency. I love all of that.


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[Assistant] What I don't love is sometimes it is a little bit of a tell, right? Like we don't have time to go one, two to the right, look over to the middle, and then dip our shoulder and throw it again and do all that. Now I think he's capable of not doing that, I've seen throws of that, but that bothers me, and then it's a little bit of a


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[Assistant] Orchestrated over the top motion. It's, it's dip the shoulder and then get over the top. And that's to me why he only has one club. That, that, because it's, it's this


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[Assistant] I gotta get over the top to rip the ball every time. And that's why you don't see great touch on deep balls.


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[Assistant] He's not the best short ball thrower there is and all the things like that, because there's just that violentness all of a sudden out of that throwing that's, yea, not smooth and doesn't lead to always smooth results. If he went to here, down just a little bit to there. If he could just think around a little bit more, like we talk about, around, not so much. And he's, he's trying.


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[Assistant] Like, if you watch his pro days, he's, he's doing his dip, he's coming over the top, and he's trying to finish his throttle through. Even though it's going down, he's trying to keep it up.


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[Assistant] You know, so I think there's something there where he realizes it. Let's see if he can correct it. But if he does do, if he does correct that, if he can correct that. Right. Alright, and that's to me a little bit of a big if.


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[Assistant] Then I can start to go, oh, maybe the kid can be Josh Howard.


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[Assistant] Something like that. And it is correctable. It is correctable. It is. It definitely is. Now you need the right person to be able to...


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[Assistant] You know, see what the issue is, fix it, give him the right context clues on how to fix it and all of that.


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[Assistant] And that's where it's iffy. Because as you know, there's just not a lot of people in football that really know throwing mechanics. Right. And that's where I get scared with that stuff sometimes. And you have Fields, I'm guessing, at 6 here. Fields is at 6, yes. Fields is out of this group by far the worst mechanically. There's no doubt about that.


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[Assistant] I mean, Mack Jones is, since I've been in this business, on this side of it,


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with Zach Wilson. Decision making. Yeaah, I am.


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[Assistant] No, it's not Mac Jones level, but there's very few times where you go, ooh, that was reckless or careless. You have a few of that where you might see a drop in interception, but it's few and far between.


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[Assistant] For the most part though, I thought his ability to go through, you know, reads and look at that and make the appropriate throw, yes, is, is, is the closest to Mac Jones for sure. And then where I think I even put him an edge above, right?


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[Assistant] You know, between the corner and the safety. I'm gonna look that safety off and throw a 40 yard laser in the cover two hole. And that to me is part of the decision making too. And of course then he has the confidence and his physical ability to do those type of things. But I think when you add in the way he takes care of the ball, the way he places the ball, and then


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[Assistant] Yes, his aggressive nature to look for big plays and not do it to be a gunslinger and careless. I just go, I think he's the second best decision maker in the draft. Yes. Jones one, Wilson two, who's at three? I'm gonna go with Trevor Lawrence, three. I am. I'm gonna, and I...


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[Assistant] This was a, I mean, Trevor, Mond, Trey Lance, they're all pretty good decision makers for the most part.


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[Assistant] I think the thing where I'm gonna go with Trevor is, you know, I've seen it for three years. There's very few reckless decisions.


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[Assistant] I mean a lot of his interceptions I feel like were more just like bad throws. Like he had a bad throw I think in the Notre Dame.


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[Assistant] The decisions he's made in big games, everything like that, yeaah. I'm gonna make him number three. I mean, he could have really probably been in the number two discussion right there with Zach Wilson, really. Bottom half of this category starts with four.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with Kellen Mond, over Trey Lance, and this was really close. But just because Mond, more reps, I've seen it more, more was put on his plate to do, to have to deliver in the pass game. Again, that's one of my negatives with Trey Lance a little bit, is like, Trey Lance has never run the two minute drill in college football.


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[Assistant] We've never really seen the ball in his hand in a big moment and go, they gotta go down the field and throw the ball here eight times in a row to win this game. Or they just go, here, run the ball, run the ball, hey, we're down at the two yard line, we ran the ball four times in a row. You know, and again, that's not a knock on Trey Lance, but it's a knock in the fact that


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[Assistant] Because of his team, he didn't get to do some of this stuff. I don't know, I don't trust it. Ketlin Mond, I got to see him in the SEC.


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[Assistant] Good decision after good decision after good decision. And really, like I said, he could probably be in the Wilson, uh, Lawrence conversation. The reason I won't put him there is just maybe because of a lack of aggressiveness at times. That they had that he didn't have. To where, yeaah, there's some throws every now and then.


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[Assistant] And Lance is not a bad decision maker. I mean, obviously, through no interceptions.


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[Assistant] You know, his last year playing college football. So, he sees the field well, but it's a simple way to see it for him. It's one of the most simple, it is the most simple out of all these quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] I mean, Fields is a special athlete, he's a special specimen, everything like that. So that's, that's like a no-brainer.


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[Assistant] You know, that's, that's where he is special, and that's where, again, I don't think he's ready year one right away, but if you do play him year one,


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[Assistant] That running and his ability is going to be, you know, a great luxury to have to let him grow as a passer too. But he could legitimately do that and be that type of running, uh, quarterback for sure. Who's the closest to him? Um, Trey Lance. You know, Trey Lance is...


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[Assistant] I just think, uh, he's another guy that's a special athlete. I don't think either one of these guys are Lamar Jackson. I think that's one thing that's getting lost in translation. Everybody's just looking at both of them and going, this is Lamar Jackson. And I want to go, no, Lamar Jackson was insane. Go back and watch his highlights again. Cause I think you have forgot what you used to see, right?


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[Assistant] I mean, it's every game. He was the best and fastest guy on the field in college football. Every game. Period. That's right. So like that to where I think people are losing that fact a little bit. But yea, Trey Lance's running is still, is still special. Uhm, and I will make him number two in that department.


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[Assistant] Man. Longest pause yet. Cause this is a hard one.


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[Assistant] I-I'm gonna go with Zach Wilson here. At number three.


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[Assistant] And these other guys are really damn good athletes too. I mean, they really are.


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[Assistant] But Wilson, I think where I'm gonna give him the advantage over Lawrence...


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[Assistant] And Mon, who I think like Lawrence and Mon can beat him in a straightaway race, but I don't think by much. Like I don't think it's gonna be like, oh woah, he smoked him. I mean anybody you talk to thinks Zach Wilson was gonna run like a low 4-6 or a high 4-5. I mean I've been told he can like legitimately do like


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[Assistant] Big time dunks, like windmill dunks, like it's not just like I am a random white guy who can run through the lane when it's wide open and do a one handed dunk. That was mine. Like yea, that was me too, right. He like legitimately can like explode off the ground and throw it down. Right.


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[Assistant] And Mon 5 only because of his stiffness and I don't get to see it enough. You know, I think he's got potential to be maybe in front of both of those guys. But I'm gonna go Wilson 3, Lawrence 4, Mon 5.


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[Assistant] And then of course, Mack Jones is sick, you know, which is gonna, people are gonna go, well, he's a bad athlete. Yeah, I know when it comes to the totality of athletes, he is not perfect. Now we're gonna just boil it down again to


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[Assistant] In the pocket, and we just said, what's that department, feet in the pocket, like I said, he's gonna be one, and then it's gonna be Zach Wilson too. So that's part of being the athlete of quarterback, but yes, you're not gonna be running read options, or quarterback design runs with Kellen Maun, I mean, uh, Mack Jones.


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[Assistant] I know, I know. He was, they were really splitting hairs. He has more ability to run the ball. He has less ability to scramble and dance around the pocket. And I think that's, I value that a little bit more, I guess. So that's where I made it. But I mean, to your point,


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[Assistant] Are you gonna be alright? Yes, I will be alright. I cannot wait. My brain is fried. I'm so sick of thinking about players, teams, fits, scenarios, everything like that.


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[Assistant] I don't think so, not at all. Now listen, the biggest thing there...


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[Assistant] Uh, for, uh, CLT, is that what he calls himself? CLT there is, I would say the main concern that I would have and that anybody else has is really more the size thing. That's the biggest thing overall. There's plenty of tape.


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[Assistant] To see pressure and people around them and do all that. For all these guys. You know, get over the narrative of like all that stuff. I hear that for Mac Jones. And you know, you hear it for


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[Assistant] Throw it sidearm because somebody's in the way, do all that stuff, but I do think


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[Assistant] The size of the human being is probably my biggest concern about him overall. Six, three, two, ten. You'd like him to be a little bigger. Right, and from what I, and I haven't seen him in person, but I mean it sounds like, you know, he is a little more narrow in the shoulders and things like that, that, you know, quarterbacks are usually broad that way. So that's a little different and I understand that being a concern. Interesting question.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, you know, it is, they were down, down the middle of the field type of passing team. There's no doubt about that. But, you know, again, it's just like,


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[Assistant] It's like the receiver who doesn't have the vast route tree. Like again, there's enough out there and enough throws on the sidelines and everything he does there that when that becomes...


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[Assistant] The read, or the staple of the offense, it's gonna be nothing to him. There's nobody that throws the ball better.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's the number one thing you hear from, like, scouts, you know, whether you're reading the newspaper or the ones I talk to here and there. Like, man, I mean, when I was there, you know, that's, man, when I was there,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I could see it could go in any of that way. My, I think my biggest thing for the 49ers, and I think their pick 43 in the second round, I think would probably be DB.


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[Assistant] Who's, you know, solid, but, you know, they've had, they've taken him in and out of the lineup over the years. You got Jason Verrett, who we know has this big injury history. He's super talented when he can play. You know, I think that's probably the area I look at the thing.


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[Assistant] They gotta make some improvements there a little bit on their football team there.


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[Assistant] I do wonder if they'd be in the market for another pass rusher at 43 just because it's so important to their scheme overall.


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[Assistant] You know, and the wide receiver thing is, is interesting. I just don't know if they're gonna do that right now. I mean, I think they're good at the wide receiver department with Debo and IU. I think they gotta address other needs at 43.


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[Assistant] Didn't last year, he straight up cursed the whole year. I will. I'll get on him for sure. You know, first off,


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[Assistant] He wore the shanahan, I mean he didn't wear the shanahan hat, he's right here, but like the other thing too is like, how about everybody wore the shanahan hat this year? They like basically stole his thing and made it


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[Assistant] The hat for all teams and players this year. They did.


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[Assistant] They did, I don't know, I doubt he got a cut of that piece of the pie there. It's like hat plagiarism. Right, it was, it was total hat plagiarism. Right, but I'm gonna get on them.


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[Assistant] You know, my mind right away went to like Miami and the Jets. Okay. Just because, and the, and the Jags too. Jaguars have four.


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[Assistant] That is impressive. I know. So those are the type of teams I would want to be a part of. You know, it's the most action.


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[Assistant] You got the most flexibility to play around and make trades and wait, you know, this guy's high on our board, but wait, we don't need that position. What's the next position we need and where's that guy match up on our board? Okay, that's the beauty of the draft and when you have extra picks and things like that.


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[Assistant] You know, you can play around. So, that would be...


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[Assistant] Chris Grier, I think Chris Grier would probably be the one I'd want to be right now. That'd be fun. Cause I think he's got two spots too at 6 and 18. Yeah.


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[Assistant] There could be some demand and some action there for players.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I mean, I guess watching Jamal Adams highlights, right? Isn't that the thing that everybody does with their pics on the board? But yeah, they, uh, they can just sip pina coladas and talk about what I don't know. Why aren't they renting a house like the Rams?


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[Assistant] You heard about the Rams, right? In Malibu. They're doing a Malibu house with a big pool and somebody's sponsoring it, some company.


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[Assistant] No, well I guess they're not paying, and if Stan Kronke is your owner, you don't even think about money.


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[Assistant] There's some real attributes about it. That's why he's very Dante Hightower-ish to me. I mean, this is Dante Hightower at Alabama, was middle linebacker, but played defensive end on a lot of third downs.


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[Assistant] I'm just trying to think here. I mean, I think realistically, you know, again, he didn't make a living doing that and do it a ton.


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[Assistant] Even though it is impressive to see him when he does do it, he's right on the edge of this group of guys that I'm not gonna put him in the top three, like with these, but you get to...


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[Assistant] You gotta pass Rashad Weaver, I think you could start to make a conversation that, hey, he's up there with like,


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[Assistant] The Jo Tryons, the Osho Lari's of the world, to where you start to talk about like the next group of edge rushers, no doubt about it, yeaah. I mean Tryon is a really special, explosive, physical specimen.


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[Assistant] That again, you wanna help your quarterback, help out, you know, Mike LaFleur, the new OC, and all of that type of stuff. I think that's logical. I would have no problem if they went ATN at 34. Very good. Pete, one more time.


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[Assistant] Uh, or maybe would go, but I don't think that's a real, realistic thing.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think so. I mean, that'll be close. I wonder where that'll go. You know, the offensive line conversation.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause I had seven. So I could see that. Cause you wanted to hit the over. That's all I was paying attention to. What's the overrun there? 1.5 tight ends. I think that's under for sure. Definitely. I do.


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[Assistant] That's gonna be it. I mean, the only one you see mocked is the kid from TCU, Trevor Morey. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Trayvon Merrig, sorry Trayvon, I don't mean to do that. Uhm, yes, he's the only one. I don't love him. I don't. So I had no safety going in my mock. The cornerbacks at four and a half, that's another interesting one. You know, I, I, I want to err on, hmm.


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[Assistant] I would probably error on the under. That one's a tough one though. I would say don't bet on that one. That's what I would tell most people. How about running backs? 1.5? Oh, I would definitely say negative. Under. Go under there. All the way. I really look at...


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[Assistant] Quarterbacks, running backs, tight ends, as definite underpicks. Receivers, four and a half. That's, that's a dicey one there.


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[Assistant] So you get into, that's where you get into Kaderius, you get into Terris Marshall, Yami Brown, Rashad Bateman people put there, you know. So there's Elijah Moore.


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[Assistant] I, you know, I just think you're gonna see a run on these old linemen because of course there's only so many elite tackles out there that you think can just play for you right away and do that type of stuff. You're gonna see these


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[Assistant] The guys we have, you know, there's only a few elite defensive guys in the draft. Right. So, I don't think people are going to pass up. And when I say elite guys, I mean, really, you're getting into Jalen Phillips, Caleb Farley, uhm, uh, Away, Quiddipay, you know, Surtain,


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[Assistant] I'm gonna throw J.C. Horan, even though I know he's not one for me, I just, I know he is for a lot of other people. And then...


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[Assistant] You know, I think you get into, just as far as elite guys, I think that's maybe you get into the two defensive tackles. So we're talking about eight guys really there. And then the other ones like are projections a little bit.


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[Assistant] That's where I get into like Joe Trion, like yeaah, I don't know if I'm gonna say he's elite, he's got some elite traits to maybe become an elite player, but he's not like that right now. So he's gonna get overdrafted I think, but I think that's kind of...


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[Assistant] Uh, so that'll be something to watch for. Michael Parsons, I don't know if I said him either. Oh yeah, I don't think you did in that initial list.


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[Assistant] Yep, but that's it. Enjoy the draft. It's finally here. Let's see what happens at pick number three and with the rest of these picks. I think it's going to be one of the more interesting drafts we've seen in a while. Paulie, you the man. Great convos today. Everybody be good, be safe.


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[Assistant] Hit me up on Twitter or whatever, you know it. And we're gonna, next Monday I will break down the draft. I'll tell you the teams I think that won, lost, picks I liked, all those types of things. Everybody be good, enjoy, peace.


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[Assistant] You're right. The NFL channel, they play it too much. So like, at some point, I probably will in the spring when it's on again, watch it again. There's no doubt. I did that last year with the Chiefs 49ers Super Bowl, but had last week off. Yeah. Back in the fold. What's up? How you doing? Good. I had the week off too. You did?


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[Assistant] I mean, I always think about football. I mean, I'm still sitting there watching pro football talk in the morning on my weeks off and all the other stuff I do. I sit there and watch it all. I think about it. The refreshing thing for me is


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[Assistant] Just no film, really. I didn't do any of that. And if I did, like, do some stuff, cause I'm gonna start on my quarterbacks and all of that this week as far as deep diving and the film and all of that and this draft college quarterbacks. I'm gonna start all the college stuff this week.


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[Assistant] I did look at some like YouTube highlights of some guys and things like that just to say, let me get a feel for these guys a little bit to what to go into. But, nah, enjoyed the week. It was total daddy daycare, snow, detox with no retox, a full week of detox.


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[Assistant] So I, you know, Thursday was my last day of work that week. I went pretty hard Thursday and Friday and Saturday night. Okay. But then I said Saturday night, I was like, this is it. It's the last night. No more. I'm going to take a little break. The pandemic is just like me, many of my friends. I even know Floria. We've talked about it a lot. It's just.


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[Assistant] And I lost, yeaah, I lost track of all that. So I just wanna get, kinda get back on schedule here. It was, it's never fun. It's never fun. When you, when you stop smoking weed,


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[Assistant] Okay? Yeaah. You're, you do lose your appetite a little bit. Like there's, there is that aspect. Okay. And then of course, sleeping's not the same. Cause if you're smoking at the end of the day... Harder to fall asleep. It is harder to fall asleep or get that deep sleep. So, like, I just figured out a week off, that would be the time, without the pressure of work and all that, I'll do that. And now you've said never again.


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[Assistant] I did, I told Pete can verify that. I texted Pete the night before, I said, Carson Wentz is getting traded in the next 24 hours. I told him, I think it's the Colts, I wasn't 100%, but I had been led to believe by people I knew that it was going down, so.


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[Assistant] And listen, I think it's, it's, it's significant. And listen, and not in the all-time laurels of playing quarterback. I have tremendous respect for Philip Rivers and his career. But Philip Rivers at his career at this point, this past year, I think if you get Carson Wentz back


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[Assistant] It is a significant upgrade, and hear me out why. The biggest thing is, you know me, quarterbacking, it's about, offense is about being able to, you know, can you, can you make the defense defend the whole field?


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[Assistant] That would be something I would say, no, Philip Rivers at this point of his career was not able to do that. A little bit like Drew Brees. If you really watch them throughout the year, you'd see defenses weren't necessarily scared of him throwing deep outs. Maybe not even to defend that part of the field.


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[Assistant] The deep, you know, uh, go routes, post routes, things like that. So Carson Wentz right there from that standpoint is gonna give that ability to that offense. And they got some guys that can really stretch the field. So they were missing that. They weren't able to totally capitalize on what their talent or their offense was.


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[Assistant] With Philip Rivers at quarterback. So I think that, that right there would be the first thing I would say. Let alone his arm is stronger than Philip Rivers, he'll be able to drive in some balls that maybe Rivers can't do. Here's the other element too.


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[Assistant] Carson Wentz, as you know, is a pretty damn good athlete. And with that offensive line and that run game, and Frank Reich, who I have a ton of respect for, and I think we can all say and connect the dots that


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[Assistant] Hey, the Eagles offense, when they won the Super Bowl in that, mmmm, Frank Reich was certainly a big architect in that. That offense was significantly more creative at that point as compared to when he left. And anybody that's been listening, you've probably heard me say this, I've been a big fan of the creativity of the Colts offense the last few years anyways.


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[Assistant] That, the Carson 1's run ability with that offensive line. Not that it's gonna be running.


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[Assistant] But it just, hey, the read options, the quarterback movement, stuff like that, I think that is gonna add to guys like, uh, Jonathan Taylor and Naheem Hines.


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[Assistant] He's going to know the offense. Yeah, he might have to like, oh, this was lion. Now this is bangle. Oh, this was smoke. You know, now it's cigar. Okay. He might have to jumble around a few words, but he's going to know how the offense is taught, where to read and do all those things. So it's going to be a seamless transition that way too. And I think that's the thing with the Colts team that I look at and go window Superbowl. It's here.


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[Assistant] You know, just riding the Philip Rivers, throwing the ball a little too much to where you're just like, no, you got this good offensive line on these running backs, we gotta rely on that to help Philip Rivers out. They got that going, and yes, that's really what got them going, and like you said,


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[Assistant] You know, their defense is really good. Are they missing a player or two? They have a ton of money. Like, they can, yeaah, another pass rusher, another real legit cover corner, and you go watch out, the Colts are gonna be one of the best teams in football.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Ty's a free agent, so we'll see what there is. And we don't know what that's gonna be. And the other guy I really like is Paris Campbell. Paris Campbell is a guy that I love the talent. Damn, can he stay healthy? But yes, I do like that. I like their tight end play.


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[Assistant] And of course I love the double headed monster running back too. So yes, from all aspects, I like that. And what did you say, Pittman? Is that what you said?


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[Assistant] Yes, I would. I would. I definitely would. Yes, this, this to me bumps them up. I mean, I'd love to see what Tennessee's going to do on the defensive side of the ball and free agency too. They have some stuff they got to do there, but yes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you know that, I probably should have hit, like, Wentz has to adjust that part of his life. There's no doubt. I said this on Pro Football Talk this morning, you know, yeah, Wentz has got to just, you know, accept


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[Assistant] The noise, embrace it a little bit. You know, you can't just be totally shut out to your clueless to what's being said about you in society and in the city. You gotta be able to acknowledge that a little bit to be able to fight back against that perception. You really do. It's part of it. I mean, Brady, you see, he's listening to people.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's part of the game. So it's not that you have to listen to all the noise, but you can't block it out to like, you don't even know what's going on in your city and your-


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[Assistant] And I, I do, from, from what I know a little bit, the, the New Eagles coaching staff...


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[Assistant] There was still some people in there that were going, oh, I'd like to have Carson Wentz back as the quarterback. You know, there's a lot of questions about Jalen Hurts. I like what he did. He was better than what I thought, certainly. You know, he was. I'm not going to say that. His throwing was a little bit better than I expected. But I'm still not going to sit here and go, oh, you got your guy. You're good.


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[Assistant] Okay, as a starter. And I know things were good. And I know, I hear everybody go, well, the yards per play were much improved. The Jalen Hurts at quarterback compared to Carson Wentz. Well, of course they were. I mean, his running and scrambling ability is what got him all. Those stats, yeaah, Carson Wentz can't run like that.


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[Assistant] Carson Wentz's ability is, his best thing is to be able to throw the ball. Well, when nobody's open ever, then yards per play are not going to be very good and things like that. But Jalen Hurts, I expect him to bring somebody in there, certainly.


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[Assistant] No, I think they like it, but I don't think you can be sold on what you saw from Jalen Hurts and just go, oh, we're good. Don't worry about any, any other quarterbacks. We're, we're finding that situation. You got to see how he develops. It's going to be a new offense. I know even with Doug Peterson and that staff there, listen, he's very raw.


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[Assistant] You know, he came from Alabama and Oklahoma where life was very easy at the quarterback position and all those type of things. He's a phenomenal athlete. They'll have to play to that strength.


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[Assistant] I won't be surprised if he's a starter, but I think they're gonna bring somebody in there, at least to like, okay, man, it's week four, he's really struggling, we can't just not have anybody, you gotta have somebody there just in case.


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[Assistant] Wow. That's a... I'm gonna go Chua. I am. Still Chua. I am, but it's not like... As you know, I'm a little concerned with both.


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[Assistant] You know, I think Jalen exceeded my expectations. As you know, I wasn't real high on Tua coming in the draft, but


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was below my expectations in ways. I thought it would look a little bit better than it did. So they were here, and now they're here. Yes, I do, I do think that's fair. You can't, you can't take away this aspect of Jalen Hurts game. His physicality in running is special.


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[Assistant] It really is. He can run through arm tackles. He can break off 40 yard runs. And as we've talked about a lot of times during the year, the NFL football


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[Assistant] You know, has become about big plays, making plays, changing field position, you know, scoring touchdowns on those big plays. And that's what Jalen Hurts can bring to the offense, where Tua right now, I would say, doesn't bring that aspect.


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[Assistant] Do that, do that this year. I really think the Eagles, you know, the patchwork experiment's over. It's time to like, it is rebuild. You guys are good at scouting. Cause they're not in a great salary cap situation. They're not in a great spot, no. And there's just too many older guys, right?


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[Assistant] Where, you know, like we saw last year. Hey, older guys. John Gruden used to do this when I was in Tampa Bay.


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[Assistant] Oh, we're, we're a pretty good team. We got four or five holes and we bring in the 10-year veteran to go fill that spot. Oh, the 10-year veteran's hurting week four. Now he can't play the rest of the year. Great. Now what do we got? What do we got now? And that's where I think the Eagles fell into that trap a little bit.


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[Assistant] And they've kind of lost their way with following their own formula that's made them very successful in the front office and everything like that. So to my buddy there, I would say, no, just enjoy football this year.


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[Assistant] And just try to believe that Sirianni and Roseman and everybody else can start to rebuild something here and rebuild a winner in Philadelphia. Don't re-watch the opening press conference.


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[Assistant] Same school too. Like, I mean, Jalen hurts out because they're like, you can't throw, let's put this guy in there. And now one guy left the school for that. And here we are talking about them again in the same off season going, are they the guy going forward? We're not sure.


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[Assistant] You know, that's why originally when I first, you know, you know,


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[Assistant] That's why I like the Tennessee Titans with Vrabel, you know, who was in Houston, that kind of thing. You know, JJ Watt, yeaah, he's not as dominant as he used to be, but I think the greatness of him really is he still can be disruptive.


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[Assistant] And he has still versatility in the defensive line. He can play defensive tackle or defensive end. In the 4-3.


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[Assistant] Honestly, he can play in any scheme. There's not really a scheme where I would go, even if he had to play in a normal 4-3, this is your one gap. I think he still would be incredibly successful that way. I think when it comes down to him, it's gonna be about, he wants to find a team, of course, that's gonna be a contender. That's gonna be part of it. How much money is he gonna ask for?


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[Assistant] On the market, at this point of his career, in a year where the salary cap is certainly going to be less than what it was. It's going to be 180, 183 million, somewhere in there. So, still can bring a lot to the team, but, also, it's a guy.


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[Assistant] I mean, really, Pete, how many games has JJ Watt missed over the last two years?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that, that, that is gonna be part of the value too. When you get to this point in your career, it's, you know, 10 years, you've been a beast your whole life. I mean, yeah, his body's gonna start breaking down. So they gotta be careful of that as far as the contract aspect too.


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[Assistant] You know, I think there's going to be a lot of teams interested in his service for some sort of, you know, two year deal, something like that, where he doesn't look to totally hold them over the fire. He's made a ton of money.


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[Assistant] He really can play anything. He really can, because even in a 4-3 scheme, like, okay, so now the Green Bay Packers have Joe Barry. Joe Barry, linebacker coach, when I was in Tampa Bay, he's coming from the Rams. You know, he, I don't know what he's gonna play. He's had so much versatility as far as being an assistant. You know, you had J.J. Watt.


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[Assistant] In a 4-3, just a basic 4-3, he can play defensive end or defensive tackle. Oh, you know, it's a passing down. Let's move him to D tackle. Now we get a mismatch on a guard. Oh, it's first down, let's play him out of D end. Tight ends can't block him 1-on-1 and do that. So he's gonna have value in all of those and Buffalo


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[Assistant] Like to me, that would be another spot. Like, if you're JJ Watt, those would be two teams I'd have certainly up there because


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[Assistant] The quarterbacks, the teams, they're very close. And you know, of course we know he's from Wisconsin and all that, but I would think both of those, he can make work.


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[Assistant] I think so, you know, uh, who else am I missing, uh, Pete, that I just, you know, originally said, but I mean, yeaah, I, you know, Tennessee, Pittsburgh,


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[Assistant] That would throw that out there on the radar. You know, I always, I'm not going to hold out in New England. Not that I think he would sign there right this second. He might want to see what they do in free agency. Now they have a ton of money to spend. So you know, a few weeks from now, he might go, whoa, New England's making moves. Watch out. Maybe I do want to be a part of Bill Belichick and all that. Uhm, but yeaah, I don't think.


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[Assistant] Mason Rudolph is a fine human being. I'm just not sold on the quarterback aspect of Mason Rudolph. No. I don't think he's gonna bring anything to the table that's special at all. I really don't.


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[Assistant] Well, I don't know, you're right. I don't know. He seems to handle himself pretty well and he hasn't been a jerk. And he got smashed over the head and handled that pretty well too.


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[Assistant] You're right, you're right. You know, I guess I always preface some of that things when I attack people as far as their play on the field. But no, I have seen nothing from Mason Rudolph to make me think at any point that he is the future of the Pittsburgh Steelers or starting quarterback in the NFL.


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[Assistant] No, not okay. And, you know, the Big Ben thing is really interesting. One, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, I think Pittsburgh's gotta figure out how they're gonna play on the offensive side of the football first. I think that's really what Kevin Colbert's trying to say. Like, they can't win and play the way they did last year.


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[Assistant] Not with Big Ben. Not right now at this point of his career. Listen, if it was...


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[Assistant] You know, they could probably play and win that way if it was Big Ben, you know, six, seven years ago where he can make plays and make unbelievable aggressive throws down the field and all that. But right now, I would say if you want Big Ben back, they gotta learn, they gotta get back to balanced football, play action pass.


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[Assistant] Not put the game on his shoulders to such a point to where he's got to throw it 42 times a game and win the game that way. Not fair to ask a big Ben in this part of his career. Not really realistic in my opinion. Right.


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[Assistant] They gotta figure out offensive line issues, running back issues, what they're gonna do there. I'll say this at the very least, cause I don't, I have no feel for where that's gonna go. I have no inside info for anything there, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I think it's Pittsburgh or nothing for Big Ben is what I guess I would say more than anything. I don't think Big Ben's gonna uproot his family and try to go learn a new system.


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[Assistant] I mean, from everything I know of Big Ben, he barely wants to learn his own system. And I mean that in a funny way, but he just wants to go play. And I know this offense, okay, just call the damn play and I'll figure it out and we'll go from there. He doesn't want to go learn a whole new thing. I just don't think that's in his DNA at this point of his career.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. It just doesn't seem that way. It doesn't seem like Peyton Manning or Brady at the end of their, you know, at the end of their stays with the, the Colts or the, or the Patriots. I don't, I don't feel that way. Uhm, and you know, again, he's a guy compared to those two too, he's been beat up a lot more.


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[Assistant] You know, and as we saw, you know, there was a difference between Big Ben the first eight weeks and the last eight weeks of the season. He, he, the wear and tear of the season caught up on him, and that would scare me a little bit of the Steelers too, which is I'm sure they are a little bit scared about. But really, if they want to make Big Ben work, I think they can still win, but if they can get back to a running game,


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[Assistant] Okay, protect him, play action. Okay, he's got a throw and now it's, you know, Claypool and Deontay Johnson off a good running game, play action, fake. He'll be able to dice you up kind of like Brady and Tampa this year if they do that. But that's a big if right now.


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[Assistant] He can. I think he can. Because he started out the year throwing the ball pretty well. He always gets back into the same, the same issue when it, his whole career.


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[Assistant] I've always talked about it. It becomes this hiked up shoulder.


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[Assistant] Hiked up front shoulder and instead of like, oh I have to throw it at 12 o'clock.


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[Assistant] He steps over here at three o'clock, and it's huh, and it's just too much effort. When Cam is the MVP of football and doing things like that, it goes back to, oh, going around, his shoulders level, it's not like, I'm just big and strong and I'm gonna throw it in there. It became too much work for him, and it became inaccurate that way.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I don't think that's a crazy thought. I don't. And...


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[Assistant] But I still think if you made me choose with Cam Newton, I'm still gonna go, he's gonna be back in New England. As you said right now, I do, I do. I mean, that would be my leader in the leader house right now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, as of right now, they don't, there doesn't seem to be, there's no dialogue. There's no calls. Houston's not talking about it. There's no preliminary conversations of what, ooh, this, it might take this to get him.


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[Assistant] They are not doing that as of right now. And I know that those teams believe that yeah, like right now they're kind of just going forward as in he's not available. And if he is available, we'll see where it goes.


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[Assistant] You've heard the three main teams, and they're real. They're real. I mean, Carolina, uhm, the Miami Dolphins, I don't know so much about Denver, I just know that from the, from the noise and people I know in the NFL.


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[Assistant] But like Carolina and Miami, if he's made available, they're, they're game. They're going to make plays if he's available. They will try to make it happen if it does. I don't know the Denver situation, but I'm not shocked to hear that too. And I'll say this to the Deshaun Watson thing too. First off, Houston Texans, you better figure it out in a hurry because this would be a great three-way


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[Assistant] Three way thing to have at your disposal for the trade. It's gonna help you optimize what you get from him. It really will. To have those three type of teams who are all in a similar type of window where I go,


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[Assistant] These are the, those are three teams where I go, they could be those teams that missed the playoffs that are now in the playoffs next year, or right on the cusp of it. I think all three of those teams fit that mold.


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[Assistant] They also, if I'm Deshaun Watson, I think those are three pretty good options too. I mean really, Denver, with some of those weapons they got, okay, they finally got the offensive line figured out.


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[Assistant] The Carolina Panthers to me are one of the sneakier, better offensive weapon teams in all of football. I think he, I think he could go to those teams and turn them around right away, as in the Miami Dolphins. Now they probably need to do some work at receiver to help them out that way a little bit.


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[Assistant] I think, you know, he certainly could go to those teams and make them big time contenders and they have the support around them. And if you're Miami and Denver,


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[Assistant] And Carolina, how many young guys can you have on your team? How many young draft picks are we gonna have? At some point you gotta go, we need to get some few veterans and a guy. How many like,


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[Assistant] You know, Casario's a guy that I think knows about building a team.


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[Assistant] He doesn't, I mean, he understands the importance of a quarterback and I'm sure this is probably like why he's, they're not taking any calls because he's probably like, wait, I took this job because number four was quarterback. I do not want to let him go. Like I don't want to go to a place where I got to find a quarterback. He's the crown jewel of why I'm coming here. That was the, that was the big reason. So I'm sure he's not going to, you know,


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[Assistant] Die easily as far as that conversation is concerned. He is going...


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[Assistant] To build the team the right way. Now they got their offensive line, I think, going in the right direction.


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[Assistant] You know, he's not gonna love David Johnson type, oh, big money running backs and all of that. Yeaah, they gotta, they need some improvement at wide receiver. Definitely, we know that. Their biggest thing is their defense. Their defense sucks. I mean, I don't know any other way to say it.


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[Assistant] There's really not a marquee player on their defense other than maybe Zach Cunningham, their middle linebacker. I mean, he's really probably the best player on their defense.


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[Assistant] I think it is. It is. If they didn't, I, I, it is. It's the worst defensive football, in my opinion. I think it's right up there, yes. And, uh, so I think that's where the rebuild really has to start. The offensive line, they kinda gotta go in the right direction. And then, Casario,


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[Assistant] He's really good at finding, you know, under the radar, wide receivers, and oh, we don't need a star running back a la New England. We have six that are all good and can fit certain roles.


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[Assistant] No, I think that's where he would go, listen, I know how to build a team and he would try to sell it that way more than anything on Watson. I don't know if that would answer your question or not.


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[Assistant] I know, you know, this is where me and Florio got into this today. It's where I think like we're getting close to Watson has to probably publicly start putting the pressure on.


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[Assistant] I think he needs to, yeaah, they're gonna have to start applying the pressure. However he wants to do that. I know this is not naturally within him. Yeaah. This is not like who he is as a guy. So I'm sure he's not comfortable with that. You know, and, you know, it's funny cause you see the tweet from his quarterback coach where he saw Carson Wentz get traded and all that way. Listen, it's a different situation.


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[Assistant] Carson Wentz is not Deshaun Watson, and the city of Philadelphia for the most part was done with Carson Wentz. The Houston fans...


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[Assistant] I don't know how awesome Deshaun Watson is. They want to be done with Jack Easterby and that crowd.


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[Assistant] Uh, so it is a different dynamic, and I think, again, nobody's looking at the Houston Texans right now as a place where, ooh, players want to go, and this is awesome, or anything like that. They have dysfunction written all over their name, and I think Watson's probably gonna have to apply the pressure at some point.


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[Assistant] He can even come in the studio. I mean, whatever you want, Deshaun. We'll do whatever. We'll work around your schedule, Deshaun Lawson. Exactly.


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[Assistant] Three first rounders is, I think, where you're gonna start. Now listen, if you have...


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[Assistant] Maybe two first-rounders. Hey, we're gonna give you a...


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[Assistant] It's just like, yea, well, is there going to be a player attached to it? And a marquee player?


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[Assistant] And, or how many marquee players, you know, you keep hearing the Christian McCaffrey thing, you know, with the, the Houston Texans and all of that. I have a hard time believing that Nick Casario would want to do that coming from New England where they use the stable running backs, you know, approach.


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[Assistant] But again, like a marquee player like that certainly is going to take away the amount of picks you have to give up for the player.


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[Assistant] No, no, he's correct. This guy's a real listener. I mean, listen, I think it's...


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[Assistant] You look at his track record of guys like, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, Kirk Cousins, those, those are those kind of guys. Listen to what I say, here's what we're doing, and now execute it.


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[Assistant] I also think, of course, hey, the injury issues with Jimmy Garoppolo is a real thing when you're a Super Bowl team, basically, and you're not sure if your quarterback can stay healthy. That's, that's real. Deshaun Watson is a special, special talent.


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[Assistant] If he is made available, yea, if you're the 49ers, you call, you try to make something happen. At least I would. I really would. You know, I have no inside info here. Everybody thinks, oh, he knows Kyle. Are you fucking kidding me? Kyle's not gonna talk to me about this shit.


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[Assistant] Exactly right. Here's the other thing that I'll say. Just because...


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[Assistant] You know, I heard Robert Salas say it. I heard Kyle make some comments during the year. To where...


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[Assistant] I think maybe even he's maybe realized, like, hey, I like these quarterbacks that do what I say.


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[Assistant] I'd like one that can maybe bail me out every now and then too. I think, you know, I said it during the year, I thought some of the comments I saw on Make About Josh Allen and Robert Sala, that to me always jumped out to me. I never really heard them say some of the things they said there, where I was like, oh, oh, they're very impressed by him, eh? You know, so again, I think you look around the NFL and


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[Assistant] The way the game's being played right now, yeaah, those quarterbacks can make up for so much and they can make a lot of explosive plays and the 49ers of course are a team that I think, yes, you should make this move.


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[Assistant] They're pretty much ready. It's a little bit of depth here. A corner here. Okay, a safety. The offense is ready. And to me, that would make sense. And of course, Jimmy Garoppolo coming from New England at Casario. You would think there would be a liking of that too. Okay, so here you go. Okay. First round pick.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I don't think they would give away Nick Bosa. I don't.


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[Assistant] The defense is formulated around the pass rush. D. Ford, they don't look good that he's gonna be able to play, or I don't know where he's gonna be at. I mean, the injury has to be a concern. He was non-existent this year.


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[Assistant] So, now you're gonna lose Nick Bosa, who, really, we said this a lot, before the injury, Nick Bosa is one of the best defensive players in football.


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[Assistant] I don't think Shanahan would, I don't think they would sacrifice that. I don't. I don't.


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[Assistant] I don't think they would let go of Nick Boso. Okay, alright. We will see. We'll see if Watson goes anywhere. Because when you're an offensive genius too, okay, Kyle's always gonna go, well, I can make my offense go with just about any quarterback. I can make it go. As long as he can stay healthy or whatever, we're gonna be good. I don't need a superstar. He's proven that. He doesn't.


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[Assistant] Go on with Mitchell Trubisky, especially if


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[Assistant] They could play the way they played, but it's risky. I understand that. I don't know. If I'm, the more and more you think about it, and if I'm like Matt Nagy and Ryan Pace, I'm not sure I'd want to go into a year where we could be fired, and I want to really trust Mitchell Trubisky. I understand that thought, totally. I really do. Now, the draft thing, alright.


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[Assistant] I'll say I favor Zach Wilson as of this moment from my TV scouting. And again, like you said, I have not, I'm, this is my, I will start my deep dives really today after we get done with this. This is off YouTube, this is off some TV. It's awful watching games this year. I would say Zach Wilson is the second guy.


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[Assistant] You know, where the Bears are going to be in the draft, I mean, they're going to have to trade up to get either one of those guys, Fields or Zach Wilson, like, major trade up. Like, I don't, we kind of have three quarterbacks go in the first six picks again and all that type of stuff. I mean, it's very easily the Jets take Zach Wilson at two.


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[Assistant] You know, and Trevor Lawrence we know is going to the Jaguars. So I, I, I don't, I don't know about that. I think the, as of right now, the Bears are in a, in a, in a weird spot to where I think they gotta look at just to see a few, a few dominoes have to fall first and then they could figure out. It's almost like, you know, Carolina gets to


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[Assistant] Jets do, you can go on the line to where they gotta, exactly right, they gotta figure it out that way, uh, and see who's available after kind of, I really think the Watson thing kind of has to happen first probably.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're gonna be in a tough spot there for the quarterback. I would, my, I see a lot of these scouting and drafts and everything like that, and I know there's, people think there's gonna be, you know, five maybe quarterbacks in the first round and all that.


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[Assistant] Trask is the one I'm intrigued about. Can he make it a six on the first round? Trey Lance is the one I'm really intrigued by. Me to right now, just off my scouting.


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[Assistant] People got Trey Lance going in the top 10, I don't see that at all. I mean, at all. To me, my early statement would be, Trey Lance is way too high, Mac Jones is way too low. I would bet you that flips at some point.


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[Assistant] I mean, the one game I saw of Trey Lance this year, I would be concerned with how he threw the football. I know he only played one game.


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[Assistant] Wild motion. The ball can go anywhere with him. So that one is to me right now in the early stages I go, he's a little overrated in my TV scouting and Mac Jones I'm gonna go, being underrated. I mean, Mac Jones to me looks like he has more NFL talent than Tua.


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[Assistant] I'm just gonna say that right now. He's a much more gifted thrower than Tua. He makes more NFL throws than Tua ever did at Alabama.


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[Assistant] I mean, Mac Jones has different deliveries. Mac Jones' only issue is he doesn't look cool in his uniform. He's got pizazz or sexiness to him. Exactly right. People are going to kind of look at him and be like, he's a nerd, what a square he is. Okay, great, who cares? But the way he throws the ball in the field, man, he is, uh, he's


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[Assistant] And some only play a few games. I know, I'm a little like, yeaah, what is it gonna look like studying these guys this year with the circumstances?


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[Assistant] You know, he's definitely a top 10 quarterback in football for me. That's the first thing that I will state. You just can't give away, you know, top 10 quarterbacks or anything like that.


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[Assistant] You know, and his, his value, you know, just again, we saw what it was in the field. Okay, we saw that. And I think it goes beyond the field too. From anybody I've talked to that's ever been associated with the Cowboys that I know.


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[Assistant] You know, it's the other things he does too that people love too. He is a leader of men. He really is. He's a worker. He's selfless. So I think there's a lot of love from that aspect. I can't imagine him not being back. I mean, one, first off, they've built the team to the pass game. It's wide receivers galore. So what are we gonna do? I mean, you gotta go with that.


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[Assistant] You know, now, I just, to me the question is where is that threshold right now? You know, okay, I mean, can, can Dallas, if he wants to be paid with some...


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[Assistant] Huge margin of money or whatever like that. I mean, is he going to be willing to maybe, you know, like, my home's at a very teen...


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[Assistant] So I would expect him to be back. It's just, it looks like it's gonna go to franchise tag and then they're gonna try to negotiate something from there. And for me, if I'm Dak Prescott, you know, again, I'll say this, you know,


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[Assistant] Hey, how much money do you need? I don't know. I know you want to break the bank, but don't break it to the point to where, you know, the team doesn't want you anymore, and it's dysfunctional, and you're being franchised for one more year, and you're gonna roll the dice on maybe being injured, and it's a really good situation. They have talent around you.


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[Assistant] And I, again, I don't want to be insensitive to Dak Prescott. I'm just, you know,


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[Assistant] I don't, you're not Deshaun Watson or Patrick Mahomes yet either. And you know my thought on that. I think the NFL has got to stop doing this a little bit, and I think that's where Dallas is saying it. I think he was trying to say that to Jerry Jones when they lost to Seattle.


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[Assistant] When he was going, do you remember those comments, Pete? Or do you remember Ahmed when he was kind of going, you know, one of those quarterbacks that can run around and make plays by himself. You know, he's not a top four or five quarterback.


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[Assistant] And that to me is a special guys, and those are the ones who should lead the market. He's that next group down, and it just seems like right now everything you hear, he's trying to be the highest paid quarterback in the sport, and Dallas doesn't want to budge on that.


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[Assistant] There's a lot to this Dallas situation in general. Of course, it's a serious injury that he's coming back from too. You know, where is that health gonna be? I expect him to heal and be totally, you know, back, but he might not be totally 100% back in his movement and ability and things like that early on in the season next year. I don't think that's crazy to think.


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[Assistant] You know, and also he's got to realize too, like, do you want to really take that risk again of you play a pretty physical brand of football?


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[Assistant] You know, or you really want to play that franchise tag dance one more time? And, you know, of course we don't want anything bad to happen. I'm really rooting for Dak. I'm very conflicted with that situation as you can tell. I don't really know what to say there.


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[Assistant] I'm still a believer in Sam Darnold. I am. I have seen enough to think you could make it go. I think the Jets are in a very pretty position here. To me, I look at them and go, they got a lot of options. They could keep Sam Darnold and


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[Assistant] They could trade away the number two pick and come away with the next first round pick this year and build it that way. You know, they could, uhm, they could end up


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[Assistant] From all accounts and everything I know, I think there is a little bit of a love fair with Zach Wilson there with the New York Jets. They could go Zach Wilson, trade Sam Darnold away, and also acquire


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[Assistant] I do, I think there is, I do. And to me, I'll go back to the 49ers, that's another team I look at, where...


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[Assistant] If you were trying to maybe not comfortable with Garoppolo or anything and you want to improve the position, like, I think Sam Donald's an upgrade from Jimmy Garoppolo. I know that might make waves and people might go, oh, that's crazy. I think Sam Donald's a better thrower, a better athlete, you know.


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[Assistant] And, you know, the decision making too, I don't think it's horrible. Again, some of the decision making that people question with Sam Darnold, I'm gonna go, well yeaah.


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[Assistant] I mean, when you're always losing, you know, you're going to try to make a play to do something every now and then, and you're going to go, well, why did he make the decision? Well, because he's sick of losing. He's down by 10 and he had to make something happen. There's six minutes left in the game.


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[Assistant] And that leads to bad things too. But if I'm the New York Jets, my two cents would be stick with Sam Darnold. The offense they want to run is going to be similar to Shanahan. I think he's going to be fit perfectly within that. And then let Joe Douglas work his magic with the rest of the picks and go from there.


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[Assistant] Well, there's gonna be like less of a 3-4 element. Like, Brandon Staley did have that little element to his, so you're not gonna get that.


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[Assistant] Again, Raheem Morris, like I just talked about with Joe Berry, he was there in Tampa with me. So it's gonna be more of a 4-3 scheme, I would believe. More of a Seattle scheme, maybe base type of approach. But this is what happened with Dallas. I know, I know.


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[Assistant] But they have the personnel to be right under the 4-3 right away. But you shouldn't mess up what was there though, right? Well, I know, but Brandon Staley left, so they're stuck. Now, this is where it's a little different than the normal Seattle scheme stuff. Raheem is a little bit more outside the box.


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[Assistant] What he did with Atlanta last year, hey yeaah, Seattle Scheme was their base defense. But man,


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[Assistant] You go back and watch what they did the last six or seven weeks, eight weeks of the year. And he started to put his stamp on that. I mean, they were unbelievable disguising.


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[Assistant] Not a real talented defense and they had some moments of really giving some teams issues because of his ability to disguise and do some different creative blitzes and things like that. So I don't think the dominance of that defense is gonna change. I really don't. I think those things are gonna be awesome.


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[Assistant] From a base standpoint, I still think it's not going to be exactly the same scheme as Brandon Staley, but I think from the basis of


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[Assistant] They're not going to know exactly the approach. It's going to be a few weeks into the year that they go, okay, wait, this is how they're playing this year. Okay. And, and really they've done a very good job as far as their personnel is going to fit Raheem's scheme. It's a more about, it's not a size team. They're a speed team. Win this gap, win it.


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[Assistant] We're gonna kinda keep it simple so we can play fast and react and just make tackles and do things like that. And then as they get that down, you'll start to see some of the creativity we saw in Atlanta that


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[Assistant] Really screwed with Brady a few times, really screwed with Patrick Mahomes when they barely beat Atlanta in, in Kansas City. You know, that's where it's gonna be really cool. And he knows Sean McVay.


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[Assistant] They're gonna, they're gonna work on how they see the vision. They were in Washington together with the Shanahans. So there's some familiarity there. And of course McVeigh with Tampa, Raheem was there too. They'll be all over it.


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[Assistant] I mean, Matt Ryan, Julio, Calvin Ridley, they'll fit really well. I'm not worried about them. I'm not worried about them. What I'm more worried about is...


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[Assistant] That's where his offense starts. He is a play action, play caller. That's what he wants to do. He wants to smash your face, and then he wants to dial up big time throws down the football field. And not always, not that it has to be bombs or anything like that. Right.


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[Assistant] You know, 15 yard, uh, in cut, you know, 20 yard out route, you know, post route with a guy running the 15 yard crossing route over the, you know, over the top of the linebackers. That's what he wants to do. And to me, that's where the Falcons have the most work. I mean,


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[Assistant] First off, their running backs are not that good. I'm sorry. I don't know what- Todd Gurley's okay. Todd Gurley's your number- you want him to be your number two.


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[Assistant] I don't think you want him to be your number one. And then the offensive line in general, Alex Mack is a free agent, and they just weren't good at imposing their will in the run game on anybody last year.


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[Assistant] So that to me is where it has to start and hopefully they'll be able to get that situated. But yes, I'm a fan of Arthur Smith and what he does there. And I think Matt Ryan and Julio and Calvin Ridley certainly are going to make it work if they can get that running aspect. The one thing with Arthur Smith


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[Assistant] That just my only question is, and you heard me say this during the year, I love the offense, the drop back pass offense is the one part where


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[Assistant] It could grow a little bit. And maybe that's with him with Matt Ryan, who's been around some good drop back pass offense. Maybe they can grow it a little bit to do that to kind of like buy them some time before they become a smash mouth play action football team.


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[Assistant] Yes. Isn't that right? They did not have a running game. I know. And really the majority of their play actions are him in shotgun and him doing this and then pulling out and, you know, he pulls the ball and of course he doesn't need much of a window to throw into anything. I mean, oh, there's four inches, I'll throw it through there. 77 miles per hour. Shoom!


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, high action football is the way of the game right now. It is the way of the game. Other than, let me just look here. The Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Tana Hill 2, which is, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, well, Mahomes, they do that whole thing too, out of the shotgun, they ride the guys, and then, you know, I used to write that all year, like, why are people, why are people buying so hard on the run fake when they do it? But, uhm, it is the way of the game right now.


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[Assistant] I like Moss, you're right. I don't know how they feel about him, so whatever that is, they gotta figure that situation out. Whether, you know, I know Moss was banged up so they never really got to see what he truly was worth this year. But they gotta get a running game in general, get back to that. You know, they got into...


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[Assistant] Win the Super Bowl? I just think it's harder if you're going to be in the shotgun relying on Josh Allen all game long. It's just going to be, it's going to be very hard.


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[Assistant] So just a little attitude there. Their offensive line, in a lot of ways, is really, you know, I have no problems with it. You know, I do believe they have two free agents on there. I'm Feliciano and I think Darryl Williams.


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[Assistant] Our free agents on their offensive line. But okay, I'm really not worried about much on the offensive side of the ball is what I'm saying. It's all defense with Buffalo. I mean this defense this year, they were only


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[Assistant] You know, respectable, I think, because of the coaching, because of Leslie Frazier and McDermott. Who's marquee on their defensive line? The answer is nobody. Okay?


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[Assistant] You know, so that is the first thing I would say. We gotta get some difference makers on the defensive line. Especially pass rusher.


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[Assistant] And, you know, I look at guys like Mary Madison and Jerry Hughes who are not free agents but have pretty good cap hits and little dead money to where I'd go, they could be cap casualties here.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be shocked. What they're at in their career, the production didn't match the pay tag, and they can save a lot of money by releasing them.


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[Assistant] No doubt. It's been very underwhelming. I mean it's not disruptive.


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[Assistant] He's not real big to be able to handle double teams. You know, they signed Vernon Butler in the off season. He didn't really come through. We talked about Mario Addison because McDermott had a little, you know, knowledge of the Vernon Butler and Mario Addison because they were in Carolina. He came from there and they just didn't produce for him. So to me, it's difference makers on the front.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know if they're gonna be able to resign Matt Milano at linebacker. I'm probably not. I mean, he might command a real pretty penny there. I'm not sure where that goes. But to me, it's just defensive line and corner. They gotta get corners. They weren't able to match up.


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[Assistant] With the good passing offenses in football this year. And it just can't always be on McDermott and Leslie Frazier.


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[Assistant] There's no answer to some of them. I don't know where to go with it right now. So I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] Curtis Samuel. Okay. Carolina Panthers. That'd be one I'd tell you right now. Like, weapon.


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[Assistant] Weapon. You know, a lot like, you know, I'm not saying he's Tyree Kill, but along that line of, you know, speed sweeps can beat you deep.


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[Assistant] You know, you can throw him a screen and he can run for 60 yards. That'd be one guy right off the bat. Hey, Corey Davis, the Tennessee Titans, he's gonna make a team better. You know, don't forget about him. Richard Higgins, the Cleveland Browns, really under the radar guy where I go, hey, he's not a superstar, but he's awesome number two or number three. Alright?


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[Assistant] Leonard Floyd, we just talked about with the Rams, to me was one of the better defensive players in football this year. I put him on my all-pro team.


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[Assistant] He's a beast, he can play 4-3 defense and 3-4 outside linebacker. He's awesome in coverage, he's great in the run game, and he's a better pass rusher than he gets credit for.


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[Assistant] William Jackson of the Cincinnati Bengals. The corner. One of the better corners in football to me.