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[Assistant] Yeah, Terry McLaurin was 8 for 128, but he was the only one that did any damage. I mean, Curtis Samuel felt like he had more than 2 for 28. Did he have some rushing yards? Where? Oh, he only had 4 for 12. It felt like he was, he made some plays too. And then De'Ami had the one catch that Breach mentioned, uh, before halftime.


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[Assistant] Um, but for 81 plays, a lot of it was Brian Robinson. Again, incredible story. Antonio Gibson played well. He got banged up and came back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's just one of those one-off games. I don't take anything away from this. I don't know if you guys feel differently.


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[Assistant] Where did you bet the, uh, was this a revenge game bet for you because the cards went to prison?


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[Assistant] So here's the other thing I was thinking about. So yesterday, a mere 24 hours ago, I was like, there's no way any of these teams that are 8, 9 and 10 in the NFC have a chance of making the playoffs. The Packers have since won and beaten the Cowboys and obviously Washington just beat the Eagles.


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[Assistant] Anyone willing to move off of that? Any of these teams? I know Breach, you've said that if the Packers win their next two games, you will certainly revisit it. Anyone willing to move off that now ahead of week 11?


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[Assistant] You wouldn't count them out. What does that mean percentage wise? That they make the playoffs? Alright, I don't hate that. I was thinking around there. Okay. What about the Packers?


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[Assistant] I was gonna, uh, this is scary, I was gonna say something.


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[Assistant] Playoff Earths. Yea, right. Afterburst over Breach is what it's called.


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[Assistant] Billy, will you put this on the screen that I just put in there from Slack from our buddy Andrew Perloff who does the Perloff and Maggie radio show. He's a huge Eagles fan and this is actually pretty funny. That's pretty good.


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[Assistant] So this thing from Perloff, if you're watching on YouTube, is he, he, again, Eagles fan, he's, he's kidding, but he says Quez Watkins was kneeling and giving himself up before the commanders hit him.


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[Assistant] Uh, and cause the funnel should have been a flag, which is pretty funny because right there, I mean, if you pause it, like the screenshot warriors like to do for, you know, X and O stuff, he is kneeling, but he was hopping his ass back up to go run right before it got punched out. Um, so that's sort of funny.


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[Assistant] Uh, Eric K, the huge commanders fan who was quite happy with the...


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[Assistant] And I get, I think the lesson here is a lesson we'll be talking about next year this time as well. Teams want to upgrade the core requisition and they get desperate whether it's through the draft or signing someone or trading for someone and you end up with like a Matt Ryan.


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[Assistant] Situation or to a worse degree a Carson Wentz situation where now you're stuck, you paid this dude some money and you're like, okay, now what do we do? And you don't want to look like a fool. So you stick with it.


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[Assistant] And to your detriment. Uh, unfortunately for Carson Wentz, he got hurt. Fortunately for Taylor Heinecke, he was able to come off the bench and do what most of us thought he was gonna do. Make some crazy passes, both good and bad, and give the...


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[Assistant] Uh, commanders a chance to be in these football games and they just, they just happen to win, you know. This wasn't the most improbable win of the season, but it was a huge win for them.


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[Assistant] Well, you have to pick one. No, I don't. You have to pick one. Alright, Breach.


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[Assistant] Breach of the, of the Bills and the Eagles based on the way they played their last games. Which team do you feel better moving forward with?


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[Assistant] Okay, let me ask you this. Let's say Josh Allen is 98% for the rest of the season. But again, he has not looked good the last two, two and a half games. You're still going to buy in on Josh Allen, you think?


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[Assistant] Cause Jalen Hurts actually wasn't the issue in this game. He actually looked fine. There was no real- Hello!


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[Assistant] Which is the thing, right? That was the talking point in August. Okay, this team will go as far as Jalen Hurts. Is he going to turn the corner? Well, he turned the corner and then lapped it a few times.


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[Assistant] I don't want to say that Josh Allen has regressed because he hasn't, but he's shown some wild tendencies that got him in trouble two years ago. And I don't know if it's all elbow related because it happened before, it happened in the Jets game early.


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[Assistant] It was the very last series of the chess game where he hurt his elbow.


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[Assistant] I feel like the Eagles have the easier path than the NFC, just based on where we're sitting? No? Oh, okay.


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[Assistant] And Bill, you have to understand if the, if Andy Dalton was in this conversation, he would take Andy Dalton too. So I mean, you have to, you have to consider the source.


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[Assistant] When you say a young coach and a young quarterback, and I don't disagree with that, but remember when Sean McDermott was a young coach and he rolled Nathan Peterman out there, at least Nick Sirianni is like, you know what?


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[Assistant] You know, Jordan Davis is a concern, but it was that Jalen Hurts isn't the problem. And we've said that all last season and we said it all summer, like, okay, let's see what this team looks like. And Jalen Hurts balled out. So if you can have that consistency at quarterback, you can figure out all the other stuff.


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[Assistant] And I think like the play callers on both sides of the ball for the Eagles are, are like two of the, two of the best. Steichen and what's the defense coordinator saying? Jonathan Gannon. Jonathan Gannon.


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[Assistant] Those guys are legit, and I think, you know, I whinge all the time about the Steelers and what they're doing with Matt Canada. There are no such concerns, uh, about Philly, and that's a huge deal. And much the same way, as Brentson notes, that Andy Reid is the, uh, the OG.


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[Assistant] That's not a bad consolation prize, what they have going on in Philadelphia. Uh, obviously Kansas City. I mean, that's a layup. I don't trust Miami, just cause they're, you know, that's a new coach.


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[Assistant] Uh, Breach and I were talking about this on HQ. What are they going to look like when they play in cold weather? Like we don't know what that looks like. That's just going to be a situation they're not used to. Uh, the Vikings, I mean, come on, let's be real. I love that they're eight and one. They're, they're a fun story, but no one trusts Kirby Cousins. In fact, I had some stats that they get a chance to use on HQ Breach. What do you think, um, uh, Kirby Cousins record is on Monday Night Football?


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[Assistant] He's 3 and 5 on, what's that? No, I don't think so. He's 3 and 5 on Thursday Night Football, and what do you think his playoff record is?


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[Assistant] And maybe this is the year that he puts it all together, but there's reasons to be concerned. So yeah, Philadelphia feels like a safe pick here. And I might even be like, you know what, the seventh ranked giant, uh, the 49ers, excuse me, might be the second best team in that division. And I'm not a huge, uh, 49ers homer like Brinson is, but I mean, who else is going to give him a hard time? So that's who I trust. Do you want to tell us who you trust outside of the Saints and the Bengals? And the Broncos?


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[Assistant] The Chiefs absolutely. Yeah, the Chiefs, and I said the Eagles, and I said even the 49ers in the, in the NFC. There might be the second best team.


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[Assistant] For later? Yeah, you got it. You got it. Alright.


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[Assistant] So you're saying that the distance between the Chiefs and the rest of the AFC is larger than the distance between the Eagles and the rest of the NFC? Is that what you're saying you think?


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[Assistant] I will say, I was going to say, I thought it was weird that Brett preached and mentioned the Broncos as a team we trust, but you know.


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[Assistant] 2007, obviously the, the Patriots went and lost as an undefeated team to the Giants.


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[Assistant] Halcyon days is that every year there'd be the Colts and, you know, the Saints and then the Patriots. We'd have to be talking in week 13 about them being going to winning, going undefeated for the entire season and what's his, and then do the, the, the, write the story about the 72 dolphins.


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[Assistant] I'm glad to live in a world where this is typically over by week four or five and no one cared about the Eagles going undefeated throughout the whole thing so no one had to talk about that at any point.


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[Assistant] Well, let me just say first of all that, uh, after watching the Buccaneers lose to the Carolina Panthers last week and not even score a touchdown,


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[Assistant] I picked the Ravens to win this game. I thought the Ravens were going to win this game. And at no point did I not think the Ravens were going to win this game. I will say though that


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[Assistant] During the first half, that was the most interesting part because the Ravens looked absolutely horrible on offense. I mean, it was just, it got to the point where I think in the first quarter it was


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[Assistant] Are they gonna score any points on an actual drive? Cause obviously, uh, they got a field goal in the first quarter, but that was a gifted field goal from the Buccaneers after they muffed a point. The Ravens did absolutely nothing with that, even though they got the ball at the six yard line.


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[Assistant] They went three plays and out, kicked the field goal, moved on with life. And so when you punt on your first three possessions and do nothing on the gifted possession, it was like, wow, they are four possessions in this game and they've got like five yards of total offense. Uh, so at that exact point,


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[Assistant] It was a little, maybe the Ravens could lose, but you also know that the Buccaneers offense is equally bad. They have not been able to score points this year, so they're not in a spot where they can kinda...


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[Assistant] Go for the jugular and take you out, even if you're struggling. You know, if Tampa Bay had gone up 17 to three or 20 to three or something, uh, maybe they could have put this away, but it was 10 to three by the time the Ravens got things figured out. And then, you know, once Baltimore started moving the ball, it was just like, yeah, this feels over.


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[Assistant] I know Lamar Jackson threw way more passes than I ever would have guessed. So I'll say, I don't even know, like two to one?


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[Assistant] Seven rushes, 32 passes. Geez, so over four to one, four and a half to one.


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[Assistant] You know what? I thought it was a trick question. I was gonna guess one of those 90s Lions teams and I was like, no, I gotta go further back. I gotta go further back. That is bonkers.


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[Assistant] I think that this is a multi-layer question. Uh, I don't think it's as simple as Tom Brady is washed. Although you saw him make a couple of those throws. He's, he's still under throwing guys, not on the same page as Mike Evans. Like, man, you've been on the same team as this guy for two and a half years. How are you not on the same page?


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[Assistant] At this point in your careers. And so it is weird to see that, but I think that number one, the Buccaneers defense isn't as good as it was during Brady's first two years. Uh, number two, Brady has no run game to back him up. You just talked about that where that takes a lot of pressure off your quarterback. If you can run the ball just at all.


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[Assistant] They can't do that 44 yards running is horrible. And then the third part of this is that


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[Assistant] I wonder how much Brady, how big of a check Tom Brady would write to Rob Gronkowski come out of retirement right now. He doesn't have that guy he trusts. Really a tight end. Uh, I think this is his...


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[Assistant] So this is just something that rarely happens. He's not throwing touchdowns at tight ends. That's where he likes to look in the red zone. And we've noticed the past couple of weeks, they've struggled in the red zone. They've been forced to settle for field goals. And so I think it's no run game.


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[Assistant] Red zone, we've seen rece and the defense isn't go


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[Assistant] Carolina, and then who do they play the week before that?


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[Assistant] Is, uh, can he pick that? Was it the Steelers or you had Jeremy? Wasn't the... Yeah.


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[Assistant] Uuuuh. Uuuuhm. Man, like, Peyton Manning? Is he on the list? No, that's a good guess.


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[Assistant] I mean, he seemed, he talked about it on his podcast on Monday and he seemed pretty adamant about it and gave a really...


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[Assistant] Long winded, uh, just kind of explanation.


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[Assistant] And just these little things that make you think that he probably wouldn't retire in the middle of the season. Now maybe we hear an announcement six weeks from now that says, oh well Tom Brady has a hamstring injury, we're gonna, we're gonna put him in bubble wrap, he's done for the year. But I don't think Brady would retire. I don't think he would vehemently say this, that he's not going to.


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[Assistant] And then do it. Because that's not the kind of guy he is. So, I would be shocked if he retired mid-season.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on what you think of the Buccaneers. You think the Buccaneers are a bad team, then if you think that... Yes, they are terrible. They lost to the Steelers and the Panthers.


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[Assistant] The Ravens did what they were supposed to do. You're supposed to beat the bad teams in your schedule. So I think if you ask the Ravens, they probably expected to win this game. Every NFL team expects to win every game, but.


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[Assistant] The Ravens probably thought they were going to walk out of Tampa with a W and they did. And I think that most people probably thought the Ravens were the better team. They have a more talented roster and.


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[Assistant] They finally figured that out at halftime. I don't know what they were doing in the first half with look, you only run the ball. I think.


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[Assistant] Then we called five runs, Lamar Jackson had two scrambles, so they had seven total runs. But the five runs they called between, uh, Gus the bus and Justice Hill, five runs for 26 yards. You're literally averaging over five yards of carry. And you're like, you know what? We're not going to do that though. We're just going to totally ignore the run. And it's like, uh, John Harbaugh.


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[Assistant] Just went up to his offensive coordinator at half time and was like, excuse me, sir, we're going to run the ball and keep running it. And just, that's all we're going to do in the second half and don't do anything else. And Greg Rome was probably like, okay, that, that sounds good. Cause 204 rushing yards in the second half is insane.


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[Assistant] Uh, look, I could put on my Homer hat and my Homer jacket and my Homer shoes and my Homer pants and, uh, nobody would think anything of it cause Halloween's coming up and orange and black is the color everyone's supposed to wear. But I'm not going to do that, Wilson. You know, before the season started, I thought the Ravens would win the division. The Bengals would be a wild card team. And now when you factor in the fact that,


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[Assistant] They're not going to have Jamar Chase for a few weeks and they have a much more difficult schedule.


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[Assistant] Right, but we don't know. They're an unknown quantity without Chase. So I think that goes along. You can't say, hey, look, this team might go on a run and win eight straight games because we have no idea what their offense is going to look like without Jamar Chase.


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[Assistant] Well, right, but we saw that the Ravens can function without both of those guys and also it's a predominately running team. I mean, this is a team that ranks top five in rushing every year. Lamar Jackson has been their quarterback.


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[Assistant] If the receivers get injured or Mark Andrews gets injured, they just, they have a plan. They just fall back onto the run game that they've been dominating people with. Whereas we don't know that the Bengals have a plan like that.


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[Assistant] I think everyone, I mean, I was rooting for the Ravens to just get any sort of drive there so that he would get to attempt, uh, 60 something yard field goal, um,


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[Assistant] And then it happened, so it was a little disappointing to see it blocked, but the longer kicks usually are...


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[Assistant] A little bit easier to block because the kicker will have a little bit lower trajectory to try and get more distance on the ball. Although I'm actually not sure that's the case with Tucker because all his kicks are pretty consistent.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but, you know, the Buccaneers made a good play. I would have loved to have seen that field goal go in because I love watching field goals over 60 yards because there's only three or four of them per season. Yeah, but I, you know, if anything,


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[Assistant] I actually thought that drive was good for the Ravens cause it was the first drive.


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[Assistant] Where they really thought, oh, we can move the ball and, uh, you know, cause like we were saying, they did absolutely nothing. And then five minutes left in the second quarter, they got the ball. They drove all the way down to Tampa Bay's nine. They go for it on fourth down, which we will be talking about a lot more about the fact they failed if they had lost this game.


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[Assistant] But they didn't, so it's just another, uh, well, they went for it for fourth and two and the nine.


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[Assistant] In that situation, I'd probably kick the field just because I don't think Tampa Bay's offense is that good.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right, right. And they called a pass that just seemed destined for failure as soon as Lamar Jackson got the snap. And then they took over possession again with 46 seconds left and drove right down the field again. It just felt like those two drives kind of spurred their confidence into the second half.


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[Assistant] I mean, well, and real quick, as, uh, you know, you look at their schedule and


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[Assistant] You mentioned Mark Andrews being injured, Rashad Bateman, Gus Edwards even got a little bit banged up there and had to leave the game.


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[Assistant] But all of these guys are going to have plenty of time to heal because you have the 10 days here before your next game. Actually you have 11 because their next game is not until Monday in week 9. So you have that bonus day. Then they have the bye. So between today, October 27th is the night they played this game.


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[Assistant] And the next game, they only play one game between right now and November 19th. So that gives you basically three weeks to, for everyone to heal.


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[Assistant] Uhm, now this is gonna sound crazy, but due to the curvature of the earth, I assume you're not a flat earther.


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[Assistant] Uh, that Tampa is almost the same exact flight to Munich as Seattle is.


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[Assistant] How about that one? So the fact that there, that was something I saw over the summer and I just kept it in the back of my mind because it's such a weird fact.


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[Assistant] While we were in break, I got the mileage. The Tampa, if you fly non-stop from Tampa to Munich, it is 4,996 miles. So basically 5,000 miles. If you fly non-stop from Seattle to Munich, it is 5,283 miles.


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[Assistant] So the Seahawk's only flying 287 miles further, which, you know, you're flying only 500, 600 miles an hour. It's an extra 20 minutes. So really, about the same.


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[Assistant] You know, we were talking, people were saying after the Dolphins game, well, maybe Lamar doesn't deserve his deal or after the Bills game. Oh, well, he's losing money or, or they lose to the Giants because they can only score 20 points. Like the Raven season has been so up and down. There's never been any.


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[Assistant] Uh, surefire, man, Lamar's gonna get 250 million instead of 230 million. You know, Lamar's gonna get an extension at some point. And...


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[Assistant] I don't think any one game is going to help his guys or destroy his cause unless that game is the Super Bowl, and in which case, if he got the Ravens of the Super Bowl, then he is going to get a huge, huge, huge contract, and the Ravens are just gonna have to pony up like they did in 2012 with Flaco.


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[Assistant] I just think he gets like 235 million. If they get to the AFC title game, then maybe they up to like 240 or 245. They get to the Superbowl, maybe they up to 250, but I think it


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[Assistant] Whatever the going rate. Aaron Rodgers at 50 million, so probably right around there.


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[Assistant] Three weeks ago, who's gonna win that Buccaneer Seahawks game? I would've said the Buccaneers, and now...


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[Assistant] Tom Brady is going to retire in the middle of the season is because all Tom Brady has to do is log on to cbsports.com, click on the little NFL standings icon and look at the NFC South. There is a literally a 50% chance that we could have a four way tie at three and five.


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[Assistant] In the NFC South after week eight. And all that has to happen is the Panthers beat the Falcons and the Saints beat the Raiders. Everyone's three and five. So then you're starting from scratch and everyone has nine games to prove themselves.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but all the other teams are in the cave with you. I mean, Andy Dalton is the starting quarterback for the Saints. The, the Panthers are using their third option at quarterback. Uh, that was, you know, going to training camp, PJ Walker was an afterthought and the Falcons don't even throw the ball.


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[Assistant] Bucks have to worry about an offense that is designed from like 1942, uh, it's just, I don't know, this division seems wide open, but if you're Tom Brady, that's what you're saying to your guys. Hey guys, we can win this division. We're still, if, if the Panthers win, you say we're still tied for first place or three and five, who cares? Cause we're in first place.


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[Assistant] But what about the Panthers? I mean their next games are the Falcons and the Bengals and the Falcons and they could be...


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[Assistant] You know, if the Falcons are currently tied, or technically in first place right now because they're 3 and 4 not 3 and 5, and they have the Panthers and then the Chargers,


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[Assistant] You know, I think most people will pick the Chargers to beat the Falcons, so it's just like, this team, this whole division's in total disarray. It is, it is the, remember the NFC South and the Panthers won it with a 7-8-1 record one year? That we're staring at. Losing record's gonna win this division.


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[Assistant] He's gonna do the Raiders interim coach shit. He's going to get to the playoffs and then they're going to fire him anyway.


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[Assistant] And then he can file that as evidence in his lawsuit. That's right. I led this team to the playoffs and I still got fired. So what do you want here?


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[Assistant] You mentioned a lot of numbers, so I'm gonna throw one more out.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady passing your boy, Ben Roethlisberger.


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[Assistant] As the most sacked quarterback in NFL history, Brady got sacked three times against.


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[Assistant] On the all-time sack list behind Tom Brady and Ben Osborne.


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[Assistant] Brett Barb is number three, he got sacked 525 times, so.


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[Assistant] And it's worth 464 sacks taken that ranks 12th all time.


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[Assistant] A Super Bowl against an NFC South team. Even though they weren't in the MC South at the time because the division didn't exist.


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[Assistant] Oh, oh, Matt Ryan ranks tenth all time. He has been sacked 474 times.


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[Assistant] He got sacked 259 times, but he only played, he played, his career was a lot shorter than everybody else's.


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[Assistant] Cause he only played 11 or 12 seasons and most of the guys at the top played at least 15 seasons.


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[Assistant] I just think their offensive line is so bad and there's no way to fix that and they don't feel comfortable running behind it. There's just, there's so many issues. It's like, how do you fix it? You can't make 17 trades at the trade deadline. And so you just kind of got to hunker down and say, all right, this is the team we're going to win with, even if it doesn't seem possible.


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[Assistant] Does your daughter, are those treats for your daughter? Or those are strictly in the, in the John Breach cabinet?


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[Assistant] So, Breach, uh, we, you are easily the most positive person on this podcast by billions of light years.


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[Assistant] Give me three positives from this piece of crap we watched tonight. Let Breach go and see if you can add a fourth.


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[Assistant] I have one more positive. Melvin Gordon didn't fumble although he tried too early in the game.


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[Assistant] Alright, okay, enough. Let's get through this without talking about people we don't know in real life. Uh, did Nathan, did Nathaniel hack it? Do a...


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[Assistant] Nathaniel Hackett job? Did he do a better job? Did he do a worse job? Cause that last play on 4th down, you almost felt like a tie.


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[Assistant] If they kick the field goal, it's a tie. I think there's like two and a half, three minutes left. Almost certainly a tie.


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[Assistant] And it was one of those rush to the line to be like, okay, they're clearly not going for it. So Frank Wright calls timeout, which is, I'm fine. And then they come back out there and we're watching them again. And again, Russ is just, you know, messing around in the line of scrimmage and then Samuel Hack calls timeout again.


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[Assistant] Now, I don't mind giving it to Russ, whether it was intentional or otherwise, but...


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[Assistant] As you noted Brynson, Richard Sherman was yelling, yes, fourth and one. Why don't you run the ball? You have Russ Wilson, you don't have Matt Ryan back there. Why would you throw the ball in the end zone?


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[Assistant] So you're the Nathaniel Hackett of this podcast.


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[Assistant] Nathaniel Hackett is actually Sean McVeigh, but Russ Wilson is actually Mitch Trubisky.


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[Assistant] Imagine that if I said that three months ago, you'd have thought I was, Oh, interesting.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's strictly a Broncos thing. I think it's based on hindsight.


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[Assistant] How the Seahawks are having a lot of success with a lesser quarterback by just about every measure might be a Russ Wilson thing.


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[Assistant] Knowing nothing of the inner workings of either organization, offense, offensive game planning during the week, just based on what I'm seeing on Sundays and now Thursdays, Rust may be the problem.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you're looking on social media, there's pictures all over Twitter of me.


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[Assistant] Would you think about benching Russ Wilson for Brett Rippon? Stop it. They scored nine points. You're talking about stopping it.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm half kidding, but I'm not, I'm half serious. Right.


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[Assistant] He plays out this year, but if he comes bringing that nonsense next year and you're 0-3, or even 2-1 and you're scoring 9 points a game, you gotta have some tough conversations, right?


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[Assistant] That's what, that's where we, and it's week five, it's early. No, no. Do you hear what I just said? Do you hear the scenario that I laid out?


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[Assistant] You stay the rest of the season with them, no matter what happens. You go into next year, if that team looks like this team, you have to bench them after three weeks, I feel like. I mean, I, I think that there are.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to watch the replay, I can't. I put the clip in the screenshot. He's on the right. He's wide ass open. He doesn't want to.


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[Assistant] Again, just run the ball, problem solved. I don't have any issue going forward, I wouldn't have cared if they kicked, but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, well, Brinson looks that up. Let me ask you about this breach. I don't know that that's...


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[Assistant] Alright, well just let me, let me finish this thought and you can collect your thoughts on that. Third play of the game, Naheem Hines gets the, actually he didn't even get the crap knocked out of him. Naheem Hines, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see KJ Hamler there. Uh, he's on the right side of that big circle and that 40 yards in front of him where no one's there. That's where he wanted the ball. But the third play of the game, Naheem Hines gets concussed, wobbles,


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[Assistant] Instability. If they bring him back in this game. So they, they got it right. They did change the rule after the tool of things. So that's good. The thing is, and this is something I was thinking about, um, oh, just quickly. Nahim Hines, the hit he took, it looked like a hit you see a million times. He's pretty innocuous.


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[Assistant] Exactly. You see it every Saturday and every Sunday. And he, he looked to be, as Richard Sherman noted, out for a beat or two. So that's happening all the time. And these guys are going back and forth into the game. So that was good to see. Hopefully it stays. We'll see if people, the rules get lax.


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[Assistant] Fair enough. And look, you are right, there are plenty of plays where we, there are guys that run wide ass open and they are not in the progression. Fair enough.


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[Assistant] That's not what happened. That's why you just said that you don't think KJ is necessarily part of the progression.


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[Assistant] Why, why are you designing Texas routes when KJ Hamler is wide open? Why, why are you complicated?


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[Assistant] Okay, lemme, lemme stop you there. If this is Bailey Zappi or, uh, Brett Rippon or Kenny Pickett, I will give you that. The, the moment's too big for you.


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[Assistant] This is just the guy we talked about that we can't bench no matter what. We just gave him that big ass new contract and he can't go through his reads with no, there's no, he's not pressured.


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[Assistant] He can't get across a formation and throw a slant and you're making excuses. They need to run another route.


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[Assistant] That we don't know and that's a fair point. And we talked about earlier, just run the ball, your problem solved. But presumably when a play is called, that's a passing play, Russ knows where everyone's supposed to be out in their routes.


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[Assistant] Now, sometimes there are pass plays where you're only worried about one side of the field. Yeaah, we know all that.


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[Assistant] But if that was the play called, then that's on Nathaniel Hackett. But you just mentioned that Russ potentially changed the play. Didn't you just say that?


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[Assistant] This is a screenshot. We, we don't have, do you have a look, if you have the actual play, that's one thing we can't tell anything from a screenshot other than KJ's.


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[Assistant] Alright, here's the thing. We can blame whoever we want to blame. This team sucks. This offense sucks. Russ Wilson sucks. Nathaniel Hackett, based on what we've seen with the players around him, suck. I mean, there's no other way. There's a reason that people were fighting to get out of that stadium before half, before overtime started.


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[Assistant] It was an absolute train wreck. If you're watching on YouTube, there's the other screenshot Brenton was just talking about where Russ is looking left.


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[Assistant] So yeah, I mean, I don't care who you blame. You can blame whoever you'd like. It's, it's, um, you know, there are enough fingers to go around if you want to point at someone. I'm not trying to give, I'm not trying to make excuses for Ross. Like, I mean, that's fine. I don't, I didn't take it that way. Uh, it doesn't matter to me. I think that everything that Breach went over the positives, the special teams and that's it. And I think it was a cold special teams too. Cause McManus had a better kick blocked.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, that's right. We, we somehow skipped over that because you know, we've been stuck in this last play call where there any number of fingers to point blame at the last interception before the end of regulation is 100% on Russ Wilson.


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[Assistant] They threw it behind the receiver. I don't know who the receiver was, but Steph Gilmore made the play.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And again, overshadowing the Matt Ryan interceptions, which are also equally dog dukeyish, but the interception that he threw to Steph Gilmore in the end zone looked like it was intended for Steph Gilmore off the snap. Again, why aren't you running the ball? Oh, that's an idiotic decision from Nathaniel Hackett and or Russ Wilson, whoever was in charge of that.


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[Assistant] There was inklings of that after the week one showdown, where Pete Carroll passive aggressively trolled the crap out of Russ in that game.


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[Assistant] They went out and got an offensive line. The running game works. Gino's just working with them in the offense.


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[Assistant] Huh? Oh. And then, yeaah, Russ has been terrible. Russ is one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL in terms of productivity right now. Like I was only half joking about the Mr. Biscay thing. What's the difference between those two?


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this, if you're watching this game on a black and white television and you can't tell Russ from Matt Ryan from Andy Dalton.


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[Assistant] You have, all you know is number three stinks. Like he is, he's probably been playing football for about three weeks.


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[Assistant] Oh, so it might be Russ' question mark and the question mark would be, I wonder how much this has to do with why the Seahawks tried to trade them a few times and why they finally said, we can't take it anymore, we're getting rid of you. And things have gotten better in Seattle. Now Seattle isn't a playoff team necessarily, but they're seemingly playing better. I mean, coming into the season.


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[Assistant] No, no, but coming into the season, I'm like, okay, the, the Seahawks probably aren't going to be very good, but they, they're outplaying what we expected. So I wonder about that. I wonder if, you know, you've talked about this with Brady, I wonder if Russ's fingers ever going to be a hundred percent, whether that's a concern or not.


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[Assistant] Uh, the, the sort of prima donna slash diva angle affecting


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[Assistant] Cause that, you know, the whole thing, I asked, asked, asked pretty this. I just told you, 65. I don't know exactly within that 65, what part. So the other 35 is like Hackett slash Broncos.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I'll say one more thing about Russ. And I asked Brady this on the Brady Quinn football show when you were on your golf trip a couple weeks ago. Did you guys see the clip where Russ a few weeks ago was on the sidelines imploring these practice squad players to yell run or pass? And I asked Brady, how realistic is that? And Brady very politely said, that's idiotic.


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[Assistant] He didn't say it in those terms, I'm paraphrasing, but he said, there's no reason to do that. Cause number one, you're interstating with 80,000 people. Who's going to hear it?


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[Assistant] And it's just one of those rah rah things, you're like, dude, sit down and focus on making the offense not suck. Don't worry about telling people what to do. It's not your job.


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[Assistant] But I wonder if that's weird on people. We know about the whole story with Richard Sherman.


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[Assistant] Uh, Dharmesh Patel in the comments notes, Jerry Goff has thrown more touchdowns in a game than Russ has all season.


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[Assistant] Sure, Sol is in Canada, Breach, if you say so. Breach, you want to do the breakdown game or you just want to?


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[Assistant] I don't know how, I don't know how closely you guys are listening, but I don't know if you caught Kurt, Kurt, uh, Kurt Herbstreet about midway through the second half going, someone has to win this game. And then the start realization that Al Michael's like, nah, it could be a tie.


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[Assistant] So if they had tied this game, the Broncos would have been one, two and two. But do you know how that would have been interpreted?


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[Assistant] And they would be two and three in the eyes of the standings.


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[Assistant] You're gonna have a loss for each time? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Great news, by the way. Matt Ryan sent his post-game press conference. If you had to guess one sentence that Matt Ryan should utter in the post-game press conference, what do you think it would be?


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[Assistant] Right, let me ask you this. How is this team as currently constituted?


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[Assistant] Are they going to trade for Devonte Adams? Are they trading for Aaron Dutton? Like how is this team going to get better?


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[Assistant] Well, you're talking about, there's a, there's a path, is what you were about to say, and I'm saying this to you.


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[Assistant] Let me read you this tweet from my buddy, Pete Prisco, who is, uh, has a history of jumping on or, you know, kicking people when they're down. And he asks on Twitter short, a short time ago, what if Russ Wilson never had that top rank scoring defense for four years in Marshawn Lynch? Just asking. Hmm.


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[Assistant] Would, would Russ, is Russ just a product of the players around him?


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[Assistant] I think, I don't think so. I think Russ was actually good for a long stretch. Uh, starting, it ended when he hurt his thumb or finger last year and it is.


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[Assistant] Appears to be gonna follow him for the rest of his NFL career, but I don't think there was... I don't think he was a product of Seattle's system.


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[Assistant] Before or after Matt Stafford if they retired at the same time.


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[Assistant] You think, you think everyone's a lock. That's the problem though. You just don't have any, you think, you think, you think, you think Cooper cups a hall of fame.


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[Assistant] In fact, they hold a joint press conference to retire together. Exact same moment. Uh, probably Russ. So neither skin did as what you're saying. Okay. That makes you feel better.


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[Assistant] It's just going on Netflix. Writing questions are great. Showtime.


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[Assistant] I literally watched it the other night for the first time in 20 years.


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[Assistant] I, uh, streamed it through Showtime. You didn't do that? Ooh. Did you not watch the game? Interesting.


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[Assistant] Can you imagine? Can you imagine pirating that serene going to jail for that?


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[Assistant] Perhaps. So did the guy that Breach mentioned, the Australian guy who sort of fell into the job. I think he was Australian, wasn't he?


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[Assistant] No, but it's like, it's like this football game, it's so bad.


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[Assistant] I mean, it actually makes more sense than the football we actually watch.


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[Assistant] It is weird, so, like, that, James Bond, those came out in the 60s, primarily. So that is... trying to think.


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[Assistant] If I watched that in the 80s, that was 20 years, 20, 20 years, 15 years, you know, before. When you think about movies that are 15 years old now compared to the movies that are 15 years old when you grow up, the 15 year old movies now seem a lot better. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] It's like, yeah, that was 86. So whatever the math is on that. So 20, 38, almost 40 years ago, I believe 36 years ago. Are you, um, are you a fan of Fletch? Yeah. And you already told us they're making a new one with Jon Hamm. I'm out.


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[Assistant] Breach made us late for an event in the Atlanta Super Bowl because we had to stop while Breach gawked and took a picture of...


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[Assistant] They're both Chiefs fans? No, he's a car- he's a St. Louis fan, John Hammond.


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[Assistant] I cannot wait for next Thursday night. That's how excited I am about this game.


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[Assistant] Alright, last question. So 21 points you scored in this game, over under, next Thursday night, 21 points total.


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[Assistant] Well, there's nothing in the rundown this week, in terms of picks, so uhm, it's going to be interesting to see how this goes, but, but we, I know, I sent mine in, I know Pete sent his, or I saw Brinson sent his in, with a very odd pick at the top that we don't have to get into.


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[Assistant] I think the mayor coming out, and that was Thursday, I think you're talking about after the storm hit and making it sound like she wanted to play there, uhm, makes me think that uhm, you know, they think that they'll be able to do it. You wouldn't be that positive, I think, if it was still up in the air. So I would assume they're playing there.


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[Assistant] That sounds terrible. Did you see that buff, that Buffalo New England game last year with the 70, whatever? That did not sound fun at all.


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[Assistant] 6-1 and 1 against the Spread last week. Missed my over-under play by half a point, so 6-2 and 1 overall, so really good. I think I'm 19-8 and 1, uhm, on my, on my, all of my picks.


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[Assistant] For the last, you know, two and a half, three weeks, whatever. I typically put nine, ten, nine, ten picks up every week over there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, on my amazing picks last week, the one tie last week on sports line was Houston, which I got a plus three in the contest. It was plus two and a half. And I, I stuck with it like a, like a idiot. And I should have went with one of the other things I liked. Um, since he was a game I liked, I didn't put it on both cards and India. I didn't, I liked that. I didn't put it on both cards. So I could have easily got Houston out for, got a five and a week.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the defense for New Orleans played really well last week aside from one Chanel, but with at the line of scrimmage where you should have made that tackle and he didn't and Chanel jukes them and go 67 yards for touchdown. Aside from that, Carolina throws for like a hundred yards, you know, me, me for those 100 yards. So I think New Orleans defense actually playing pretty well. I like New Orleans better too. If Dalton, if a healthy Dalton plays over,


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[Assistant] I think it's less the national audience factor of being in primetime and more getting Kirk out of his, his routine. I think he's very much a creature of routine. And so you don't get much more out of routine from playing in, in the UK in a, in a foreign, um, you know, stadium where you're not the home team.


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[Assistant] 5 o'clock it's 9.30 or 8.30 I guess for them since they're central. So uhm, I think.


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[Assistant] That's the factor more for me is he's out of his routine and his normal prep.


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[Assistant] I think the Chargers offense is in shambles. I agree with you with Herbert beat up in the offensive line losing its best player. Even if Keenan Allen's back, I don't think that they can be explosive downfield with protection issues. They're just not going to have time to throw, uhm, with the state of that offensive line. Houston's defense actually solid against the pass. It struggles against the run.


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[Assistant] Houston's offense, 31st in yards per play. They were limiting mistakes, which is why I liked them in that Chicago game and then that back-breaking interception that lost them in the game was the worst time to have that pick.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I took under 45 and a half on sports line. It's down to 44 now. I would, it's only a lean for me. I wouldn't play it. If I'm going to play the spread, the Chargers injuries making it impossible to back them to cover five on the road. So I would lean to, to Houston as well.


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[Assistant] A banged up quarterback too. Like you can't, maybe if it's Kyler Murray and he can escape the pocket and he's healthy, that's fine, but Justin Herbert already banged up, that's a problem.


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[Assistant] But even with that, the Eagles are so good to me that I still project this line at my seven and a half. So I think there's still value on the Eagles. Might be the best team in the NFC, though the schedule hasn't been too tough for them. I think the defense has played well for four quarters, even if the offense isn't.


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[Assistant] You talk about the run game last year, you know, they ran over the number one rush defense. This year they have, you know, the pass game number one in yards for play. They have an actual pass offense.


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[Assistant] So I think that's the diff solid run game. They can and the defense is strong It's going to be a tough t offensive line. Brutal tra at L. A. Last week won tha


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[Assistant] Still, all that to deal with, maybe they are dumb enough, it doesn't matter, they'll go up and hang with them, but I think the Eagles are just too good, and you take this line down to minus six and a half when it was seven on the look ahead, like the Eagles here. So, Eagles best bet for me at six and a half.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I feel good about it through three weeks. I'm sure I look stupid in two, don't I? Pete Prisco's number one power ring team.


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[Assistant] My only worry is that Buffalo's offense coming off running those 90 plays, like you said, in sweltering conditions. And do you think, Pete, that affects you a week later? Uhm, do you think they might be all rested up and fine for this game, or does it gonna have an effect?


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[Assistant] So yeaah, this is two of the best offensives the NFL is facing to beat up defenses, so it should go over if the Bills have caught their breath. Uhm, Baltimore's defense 31st in yards per play, giving up 458 yards per game, no idea how they slow the Bills.


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[Assistant] Baltimore's offense, though, first in yards for play, top three, both rushing and passing, can exploit the Bills injuries. Bills are also banged up on the defensive line, not just the secondary.


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[Assistant] Throughout the week at places, um, and at three and a half, I like Baltimore a little more.


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[Assistant] This line has dropped, it was six, it's down to four and a half, four at some places. I think that's the uncertainty around Monro St. Brown. I can't believe people are buying into the Seahawks that much. So maybe it's just, you don't make the Lions big favorites. They haven't earned that yet. Four and a half at a Caesar's, wow.


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[Assistant] Um, so, so yeaah, Seattle's offense showed it can move the ball versus a bad defense last week. That's what they're getting here. Detroit's defense is even worse, but Tracy Walker heard a veteran safety that can actually.


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[Assistant] So think about how much worse this, a bad defense is going to be after that. You've seen Brown plays, I do like the, going back to the over into the Detroit game, like I've been doing.


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[Assistant] But for now, it's just to lean. I want to know his status. So uhm, I, I kind of predicted the Chargers thing last week and laid with the Chargers based on, on Herbert's health and it was a little bit more wishy washy than it should have been. So I'm going to play it a little safer here and just lean to the over.


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[Assistant] And they're aggressive with it on, uh, on fourth downs too. Last week you saw Detroit kept on going for it on fourth down and the situations where other coaches might, and it wasn't just like a clear go for it. There's like, we're just going. So if you want to do that and we're taking some more punts out of the equation than usual, it's going to lead to more scoring too.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Seattle's defense played bad last week. You know who else played bad last week? It was Atlanta's defense. They looked awful considering the opponent in Seattle doing whatever they wanted to on offense. Chino Smith, you mentioned how great he's playing. Look ahead was Cleveland minus three. It's moved down because Atlanta beat Seattle. I don't know that that's that impressive. And like Pete was saying, could have went either way.


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[Assistant] Perced is making great decisions, throwing with authority. I'm less worried about Cleveland's quarterback situation than I was coming into the year based on how he's looked.


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[Assistant] So that because of that, I've upgraded Cleveland to an average team and I might not have to go higher than that. Because if the quarterback is actually good, you combine that with one of the better running games in the league, great offensive line, good defense. You know, I don't see why this team isn't a playoff team even before Deshaun Watson comes back.


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[Assistant] So that upgrade put this line at Cleveland minus three and a half to me. And they're also coming off a mini buy after playing Thursday. So this line is still trending down. It's now one. I don't know what the people are seeing to play the Falcons here. I think it's just looking at that offense being better than expected and people buying in on that. But the defense doesn't look as good as we expected. Cleveland looks much better than we think.


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[Assistant] Do we know if, do we know if Kyle Pitts hates Cleveland or is it some type of revenge thing he could think about here? Is it? Cleveland is the Pitts and so therefore


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think the Rams have looked great either, but they had trouble putting away Arizona, but they had 7.4 yards per play in that game. They were actually, you know, able to move the ball. Um, and I'm very worried about the San Francisco offense with the Trent Williams injury. That's a massive drop off at left tackle, maybe as big as the one we're talking about in the Chargers game going down to Storm Norton.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so Jimmy G didn't look like an upgrade over Lance versus Denver. Shanahan Owens McVeigh won both games last year as the dog. He's won six straight. That's my biggest worry about taking the Rams, which I am doing at plus two and a half. It's a best bet. It's dropping in some places. If you get it lower than, than one and a half, I wouldn't play it, but I think the line should be one and a half. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would like to play a desperate team here in this situation, but typically you're getting them in value and the Raiders are favored here at two and a half. I don't think there's value, any value in that. I would love to play them if the line was flipped the other way, considering the last 03 team.


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[Assistant] So that makes this line feel about right to me. Vegas needs to win more, so I understand the line. I just don't see much separation here. I'd be shocked if Vegas ran away with the win, so I put Denver in my teaser, teased him up to 8.5 as the first leg of my teaser. And uh, if they can't win here, a little pet theory I'm starting to work on.


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[Assistant] Uhm, might be coming to fruition that Josh McDaniels just might not be a good coach.


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[Assistant] The Chief showed that they needed Kansas City to trip all over their own feet repeatedly to win the game and catch all the breaks. I don't think they should have even covered. I had them at plus six and a half and I was like, I'm surprised Indy covered much less won that game.


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[Assistant] Tennessee's offense played well, getting Henry involved in the pass game now. He had several targets, which was something new to see there. Tennessee's defense, 30th in yards for play, but their second on third down. I think the pass rush can get to Matt Ryan in that defense, especially with their interior pressure with Jeffrey Simmons. I have India Point better than Tennessee in my ratings, but I'm not sure I believe it. I think you could flip that and, and, and I'd be just fine with that.


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[Assistant] Several key colts didn't practice on Wednesday, including Taylor. Probably was going to play, but we'll see how the health of the rest of them go. I have Tennessee as a best bet at plus three and a half. I don't think this should be north of three.


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[Assistant] My leans to the Steelers also, if you can get it at three, it becomes the best bet for me at three. Uhm, but three and a half seems right to me. We'll see how Zach Wilson looks in his first game. He has an opportunity against a struggling defense in Pittsburgh. I think he's going to be rusty. He didn't, he didn't practice at all. He didn't play at all in the preseason. So think about how those quarterbacks that were in that situation played in week one. That's probably what we're going to see from him in this game.


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[Assistant] Um, Pittsburgh's offense, not appealing at all, 30th in yards per play, number 32 in time of possession.


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[Assistant] Um, but you know, they could take care of two jets on third down here. The Jets defense has struggled on third downs. Um, and if they do that though, their offense will start looking better. So the Wilson factor would have me back in Pittsburgh at minus three, the three and a half is just a lean.


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[Assistant] The Carolina pass game doesn't scare anybody. Like I said, 103 yards without that bust, it should not play away. The guy can make a tackle. Uhm, and if you can't throw the ball, I don't know how you cover big numbers, which is why.


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[Assistant] And if you lose him, it's game over, I think for them even against a bad Cardinals team. So I teased this up Arizona plus seven and a half.


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[Assistant] Defense for Arizona's 32nd in URS per play. Uhm, so maybe Carolina's offense will finally get it going, passing the ball, but we'll see.


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[Assistant] Um, Arizona's offense can't pass the ball 30 seconds and pass yards for play. Not scary at all downfield, but they've shown the ability to rally after going down. Carolina doesn't seem capable of big point totals and scoring a big point total. So that's why I like teasing Arizona up. This look ahead was Arizona minus two and a half swung all the way to Panthers minus one and a half.


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[Assistant] Because they beat the Saints, I guess, even though they needed a defensive touchdown to do that. So I don't know. I think that's reading way too much into the result for Carolina there.


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[Assistant] Come back down to three now. So maybe somebody likes the Shagwa plus three and a half.


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[Assistant] I mean, they look completely one dimensional on offense fields, has 23 completions in three games.


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[Assistant] But the Giants offensive line is a train wreck and Chicago knows how to pressure without the blitz. They're getting pressure with their, their, their front. Um, and the Giants rush defense awful without Leonard Williams last week. If he doesn't play here.


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[Assistant] I think Chicago is probably the play as much as I hate them overall. Uhm, and, and I think the line should be Giants like minus four and a half or minus five. But that injury would be key enough for me that Chicago would probably be the lean.


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[Assistant] Tampa Bay offense estimated receiver last week. We know at least Evans will be back. So, so that helps them out there. Uhm, I would make this Kansas City minus two and a half on a neutral. I think maybe the mayor was anticipating it'd be on a neutral field because that's what the one line was early in the week. It's been steaming down now toward Tampa. I think you can get Tampa minus one now at some places, which is about where I think the line should be because Tampa has a really good home field advantage.


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[Assistant] So now that it's over, once Tampa's favored, I don't think there's any value in the game. If you can get Tampa plus points, I think that's the way to go.


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[Assistant] For sure, if you didn't use them in Week 2, a lot of people use them in Week 2 with the Bears, uhm, but I, I use the Rams, you know, I, there wasn't many places I was gonna like the Rams, but Packers, there was some places I was gonna save them for, I played the Jets when they come back from the UK, uhm, I was gonna use them there, but you gotta escalate them forward, especially since you can't trust the Chargers anymore.


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[Assistant] And, uh, play it with the Packers. So I have this line at Packers, minus 11 with Mack out. I would probably lay the nine and a half just to lean, um, for now. Dobbs looks like he's emerging as the reliable weapon Rogers needs, caught all eight targets. So if Rogers has a number one receiver there that he can rely on, that's big for that offense.


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[Assistant] Nobody would have put any stock into it unless it was Jerry that's, that's, you know, stoking the fire there. So he's the one that's causing that, that talk of the controversy. I don't think anybody would believe it otherwise. Uhm, I, I have best bet Dallas minus 3. Uhm, Washington offensive line had no chance against Philly. Not sure how it gets any better here.


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[Assistant] Dallas defense had one of the most impressive pressure games in recent memory against the Giants. I don't know how Washington scores points in this matchup, even with their solid skill position players, if the, if Carson Wentz is at quarterback and Dallas is rushing him. Um, Dallas offense hasn't been bad with rush 6.4 yards per play last week. No sacks, which is big for that offensive line.


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[Assistant] It actually looks like that offensive line's coming together. We thought it'd be one of the worst in the league, but there are injuries. Now they look actually pretty solid. Uhm, I give Dallas three points for home field advantage and I have Dallas two points better than Washington, so I make the line minus five. Uhm, it's come down to three and I think it's a solid three now. I think enough action has been on commanders that it's minus 110. I don't know what people are seeing. I love Dallas at minus three.


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[Assistant] Cleveland got a major upgrade for me with PerCet looking good. I think the market's still too low on them.


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[Assistant] Right now I have both these teams as average with a zero power rating, but Cleveland's trending up and Chargers are trending down. So I make this line Cleveland minus two just based on those numbers, but I think that might be a little higher.


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[Assistant] Once we redo the numbers next week after what we see this weekend and the line might end up being Cleveland minus three. So if you can get a plus one and a half now, I think that's the way to go. My other one is Minnesota minus seven again, Chicago. I'm just going to keep fading Chicago. Um, didn't get any value on it this week with, with that, that look ahead fade.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Big Six Podcast, U of Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Will Brinton. I'm your host.


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[Assistant] It is probably Friday, September 30th. If you're listening to this, it could be.


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[Assistant] It is, it may be Thursday September 29th. You're watching it on YouTube live on YouTube, youtube.com slash pick six and.


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[Assistant] The, uh, Cincinnati Bengals just defeated the Miami Dolphins 27 to 15. Of course, it's not the time for gloating. Breach.


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[Assistant] Team won a game in which you probably came away thinking, oh my gosh. Hope we lose a lot more games that way. This guy gets fired.


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[Assistant] Because he's gonna get a quarterback killed and he's terrible at calling plays on first down and seems to think that running 52 times in the red zone and inside the five yard line and on the goal line is smart.


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[Assistant] We have to get to the more important topic. For the record, I had none of those thoughts. Okay. Anyway, joining me, Ryan Wilson, John Breed, Twitter fellas. Uh, hello.


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[Assistant] Yes, that is the correct tenor of the response. No, hey.


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[Assistant] Your feet would be covered so you could show them. That means you're lying. That's just a hoodie.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Well, it is traditional this podcast to talk about the winning team second. And honestly, it does make sense to start with the dolphins and to a ton of Alola. Um, uh, Wilson, you, I feel like you were the most, uh,


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[Assistant] The voluminous speaker last Sunday, we're talking about Tua's injury that was classified as a head injury by the Dolphins.


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[Assistant] No, originally it was classified as a head injury. He was questionable return with a head injury. He...


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[Assistant] He was pushed to the ground. This is last Sunday, week three, pushing the ground by Matt Milano. Yep.


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[Assistant] He hit his head on the ground. He stood up. He was running back towards the huddle. He stopped. He went down to the ground.


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[Assistant] He, the Dolphins later said actually it was a back injury. And ankle somehow. I think you heard his ankle later. At any rate, um, there was no head injury.


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[Assistant] And then tonight he was whipped to the ground and hit his head on the ground and had to be carted off on a stretcher.


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[Assistant] Your brain is sending some sort of reactionary response to shock.


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[Assistant] The dolphins doing, changing the injury report last week.


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[Assistant] Bizarre way that it, and look, this is part and parcel of a brand new broadcast team and a brand new halftime team being asked to discuss something they haven't done and the Amazon crew while also being a


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[Assistant] Heart aggressively partnered with the league for the first time, the NFL and not wanting to, I mean, look, I mean, we're being honest here. I, there was.


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[Assistant] Probably a lack of a veteran presence, a veteran broadcasting presence to discuss why 2O was on the field in the first place.


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[Assistant] I mean, Amazon, somebody in Amazon to like production crews getting their news on Twitter because they changed their tenor after the game.


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[Assistant] As our pal Michael Davis Smith pointed out, Richard Sherman, when he was a player, was consistently complaining about the quick turnaround.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Of course. Do you think that the dolphins failed to, uh,


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[Assistant] It, it, it, it does feel, does this feel 2000, uhm,


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[Assistant] 2013. What was the Brandi- Brandi Merriweather on Todd Heap hit? And the- and the Colt McCoy James Harrison hit? The early- I feel like 2011.


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[Assistant] This feels like a little bit of a sea change moment just for the NFL because for a while it had gotten to the point where if you were concussed or like potentially concussed, you just weren't playing the next week.


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[Assistant] Except like, you know, MLB has a seven day concussion protocol. Baseball.


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[Assistant] Do you think that this is a sea change moment for the NFL because? Why? We don't know what the NFL is going to do.


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[Assistant] People in the comments can say the NFL doesn't care.


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[Assistant] They can say that, that the league is not, the league does care.


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[Assistant] And the league may care, the league, because the league cares, maybe not for the right reasons, but the league does care.


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[Assistant] Like, I've had back pains and when you have back pains, you like grab your back and you like kind of like, you don't fall to the ground usually.


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[Assistant] Just for the record, our graphic on the screen here, by the way, is the official designation of the NFL and the Dolphins, not our take on it.


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[Assistant] Well, and it's worth noting that you could be concussed and not test positive for concussion. This is not like peeing in a cup and you test positive for whatever you're, you know, like is in your system.


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[Assistant] It is not, it is not, there is a literal, a lot of gray area. Your brain all gray, obviously. That's a joke. Uhm, there is.


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[Assistant] There's, there's no, this is not a black and white test for concussions.


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[Assistant] No, I agree. I'm saying that like that's the protocol that you go in there. You get checked. You go through the protocols.


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[Assistant] He passes. And so they say, so they have to come up with a way to say, and this is where this to me is where the investigation.


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[Assistant] I'm saying that to me, the investigation should like center around


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[Assistant] Cause that feels to me like, okay, we can't just send it back out there and say nothing happened.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I think that the way that he watched a replay, it was almost like he just grabbed him and tackled him and, and to his like head happened to snap back and, and more specific.


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[Assistant] And the other thing too is if, when you're the head coach doing this, and I mean like, you know, we were making, we were joking about Bill Belichick, he's like, I'm not a pediatrician. I'm not an orthopedic surgeon.


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[Assistant] When, when, when this happens, when a player is taken to the medical situation and you can remember, think about Dak Prescott and how that went down with Mike McCarthy in a non, in a very serious, but not like, you know, concerning head situation. You like as a head coach, you were not spending every minute of your time.


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[Assistant] Talking to the doctors. The game's still going on. You're still worried, you know what I'm saying? You're still worried about the game. You want to get all the information but you do have to game plan for the second half. There's a lot of things you have to do. I don't blame Mike McDaniel.


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[Assistant] You have to, you have to operate on what information you are given from the people who are paid.


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[Assistant] The problem is that the independent neurologist, while independent,


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[Assistant] Oh, no, no, no, but they're, no, no, they're not. No, no, no. I, I don't think that they're sorry. They are, they are there. I don't think they're like doing the.


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[Assistant] But there's like a standard protocol that you go through and it's, it's, he's not, the man or woman who's doing it is not like...


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[Assistant] Hey, this guy looks like he's completely checked out. It's I'm going to, I'm going to do, I'm going to like, like this is what doctors do. They're going to look through seven to eight checkpoints. And if you pass, you pass. If you don't, you don't.


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[Assistant] The fact that it happened Sunday to Thursday is the real problem.


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[Assistant] When I say the real problem, what I mean is the optics problem, but also the fact that like,


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[Assistant] Four days ago, you tweeted as the, the dolphins medical staff said Tua is questionable return with a head injury.


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[Assistant] And then four days later, like he is out and he's been, he's on the stretcher and, and, um, uh, the other thing too, about this, it's mentioned a lot that he has, it's like he has feeling in his extremities.


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[Assistant] Pain. Yeah. And then they said, and then they're putting it on the plane.


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[Assistant] Why would you not spend the night in Cincinnati? What do you need to get back? I mean, do you have to get back to see the Miami doctors? Cause they, I'm not sure that those guys.


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[Assistant] All off of it, there's like, come on guys too. They got TK or less. I mean, yes, there's we've been saying, um.


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[Assistant] The halftime show, Amazon's halftime show didn't mention, maybe Andrew Whitworth did a little bit. Talked about the whole eat up to this. They were trying to be, uh,


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[Assistant] They're trying to act, they're trying to talk appropriately about like, hey, the important thing is two is okay. And, and like, he's, you know, you can move his fingers and all that.


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[Assistant] But then you could tell that they cut to Al Michaels and Kirk Herbstreet and they did this like quick.


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[Assistant] A montage of last week and a breakdown out of it. And it was, it was very.


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[Assistant] I don't want to call somebody's broadcasting skills sloppy because you know, um, me, uh, at Herb Street, right? Herb Street's a professional. Al Michaels is like the goat.


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[Assistant] But you could tell that they were not prepared to do that, to have that conversation.


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[Assistant] And it felt like somebody was reading. It was like, Oh my God, no one knows broadcast is talking about it. We need to talk about it now. And then after the game, there was a whole like launching pad.


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[Assistant] Situation with it with everyone on the set where they were talking about it. I just think that it's.


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[Assistant] It's interesting, like will, will this, will this conversation linger past tonight? Will it?


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[Assistant] You know that this wasn't Chris Collinsworth's, not on the Amazon broadcast, right?


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[Assistant] 27 to 15, the big goes one. Um, and again, if we've, we have already discussed the two, uh, injury situation, I thought Teddy Bridgewater acquitted himself pretty well. 14 to 2,393 yards to touchdown a pick. Joe burrow was fine. He didn't get hit a lot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it felt like it, I think if I were, if I were, I mean, I keep blaming the guy who won by 12.


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[Assistant] The coach of the team, the one by 12, but like it felt like Zach Taylor's game plan here was not great.


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[Assistant] The Bengals, the Dolphins went 2 of 10 on third down and held the Bengals at 2.2 yards per rush. Outgained them in yardage, outgained them in first downs.


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[Assistant] I don't think that, I think the Bengals could have won this. I can't, it's weird that the Bengals won this game by 12. It did not feel at any point. I had the Bengals.


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[Assistant] And I pointed out, I took the bingles on, on, on CBS. We all did. Everyone did.


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[Assistant] After that, it was absolute crap. The red zone offense was horrendous. So it was the, so it was the dolphins. I felt by the way. Um,


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[Assistant] I think both teams went goal to go two of 50% I guess, but I didn't feel like the Bengals were that good in there.


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[Assistant] He had like a couple moments where he called good plays. I thought might be Daniel had a really nice play call, uh, uh, thing going like that. The shovel pass to chase Evans. Teddy, Teddy Bridgewater is such a nice backup to have, but you know, you're not going to. What a weird, what a bizarre game.


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[Assistant] Which one? The, the one that like basically sealed it. They're at the 42, second and seven. They're at Miami's 42. What do you mean? What do you think about it? What, what would- There's two, there's two 58 left. They've been running, they just like, they blatantly tried to just bleed the clock out and they out of nowhere just go up top to Jamar Chase. I, I think that's like a Joe Burrow call, not exactly.


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[Assistant] What, uh, what else, what else with the game? I don't, I don't, I, the two thing just, it, it felt weird watching the whole second half.


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[Assistant] I remember like the, uhm, I was saying earlier, the, uh, uh, Colton Coy, James Harrison hit on that Thursday night game where you're like, oh my God.


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, not with your, obviously your, your, your.


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[Assistant] Herbert, Herbert, there was some quote out there. Herbert was like, I can't leave because no one else is leaving. And that's sort of like the football mentality, especially as the quarterback. And it just like that's.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's also like why it's a bad franchise to stay bad. It's like you keep putting.


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[Assistant] Step up and tell your quarterback he's not playing because you need him to get better and to become your franchise quarterback. And the other thing too is that, and I,


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[Assistant] I loosely understand this, but you know what, I'm not going back to the Tua thing, but it's like a second concussion that quickly after a first concussion.


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[Assistant] Is worse, like it, like it, it, it's, I mean, obvious exponential ramifications.


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[Assistant] Waddle and Tyree Kill or Jamar Chase and T Higgins? Who's my quarterback? Is it Burrow?


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[Assistant] One is like, one is like, uh, way of us rancheros and one is like an omelet.


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[Assistant] The thing that happened last year was Zach Taylor wasn't coaching well. They would get down points and Joe Burrow would just pull out the magic beans and does Joe Burrow have the magic beans again?


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[Assistant] I agree with that, but I think that like eggs in general are just can be a vessel. They can also be like this, the primary ingredient for breakfast or brunch.


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[Assistant] Do you have a gigantic mason jar with a handle? What is happening here?


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[Assistant] They have the Vikings at home, Steelers at home, at the Lions, at the Bears.


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[Assistant] I think that if you, this is not like, this is just, if you put, put yourself in the mindset of an NFL team, NFL coaching staff, ownership, ownership suspended front office.


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[Assistant] You feel like you could probably go three and two in those games.


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[Assistant] Well, that's what I was going to say. Like you can roll with Teddy, I feel like. Teddy and it will ease the blowback because you, if you, if you roll two out and something like.


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[Assistant] I know, but I'm saying like, if you brought him back in like week six and, and Daniel Hunter scoop slams him. You guys just both said that. I just, I just don't think they care. I said week eight. I'm not saying week eight because you asked me when will he be back? It wasn't me being a doctor. It was me being the dolphin in charge of the dolphins.


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[Assistant] PASMU, PASMU, in the chat. It's, Benson has this fantasy that NFL players come back from injuries depending on the schedule. It's not like that. It is!


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[Assistant] You haven't, the team, you don't think the team looks at the schedule and thinks, okay, when would it be a good time to bring him back? No, I'll get back.


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[Assistant] They brought it back four days from the last one.


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[Assistant] I think because you, but here's my thing on the scheduling mattering. If you have Teddy Bridgewater and you are a contender, you feel more comfortable.


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[Assistant] Rolling with Teddy Bridgewater for a few weeks against an easier schedule and not bringing to a back. That's the whole point.


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[Assistant] Like, unless Tua has a neck or a, unless he has a neck or spine injury, if it's simply a head injury.


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[Assistant] Okay. Let's go back. Let's go back four days before that when two was stumbling around. Like I'm on record. When will he be back? But you would have said Thursday. No, I was on record is keep his ass out after halftime.


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[Assistant] Right. And again, my point is not, this is when I think he should be back or when you simply ask when he will be back. Yeah. And I'm banking it on. All right. Okay.


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[Assistant] Alright, that'll do it for us. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening for Wilson for breach and his little bingos onesie. I'm Brenton. See you guys later.


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[Assistant] But RJ can't even talk. He's so stunned that you're here on time.


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[Assistant] I mean seriously, he's the corniest player in the history of this league.


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[Assistant] You got people on that plane trying to sleep. You got people on that plane probably relaxing. You have other people on that plane probably playing some cards and you got.


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[Assistant] Russell Wilson running high knees up and down the aisle. Give me a break. Everything he, every, there's not a single player on that plane that looked over and said, look how dedicated Russell is. And oh, by the way, it was leaked out. So people wanted it out to make it look like he was such a great teammate. I hated it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think this, their offense stinks. I think Jacqueline's defense has been okay, not good enough.


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[Assistant] I think this is a track meet. I think Miami's going to be outstanding on that fast track. Uh, you know, why Miami got away from the passing game against the Steelers was mystifying to me. They decided they wanted to run the ball, which was stupid.


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[Assistant] Um, and they could have thrown it all day early in that game and got up to a big lead. I think they do that here. I think Detroit's defense played better last week, but they're still not good. Uh, I'm leaning to the over. I think the Lions will score as well. So I'm going to take the over as one of my best bats over 51 and a half.


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[Assistant] Uhm, look, this game to me sets up perfectly for the Eagles. You come off a bye against a team that's out on the road basically on a short week. Come on, give me a break. Every advantage in the world is to the Eagles. It's hard to prepare for them.


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[Assistant] Any time, but particularly in this scenario, so.


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[Assistant] I don't like laying the big number, but I'm going to do it. I'm going to lay the 11 with the Eagles.


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[Assistant] Mack Jones is the quarterback and he should be the quarterback. The other guy's a backup. That's what he is. They gotta find out what they have in Mack Jones. A year ago this time, they were talking about him the next time, Brady.


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[Assistant] He fizzled out a little bit at the end of last year, but you gotta find out what he is. So play him. They've made the right decision on that call. This line looks funky to me.


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[Assistant] I just think that after watching New England the other day, they have so many issues.


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[Assistant] The Jets are banged up, that's my main concern, you know, losing Breece Hall, losing Derek Tucker, those are big hits for them. But I'm still gonna take the Jets in the game, I don't love the game, and I know RJ's playing it a different way, and I probably would agree with you on the way you are playing it, RJ.


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[Assistant] There's too, they have too many good players on that defense, not for it to show up. And Dennis Allen's supposed to be a defensive coach. I thought they'd be dominant. They haven't been. Uh, but I think this is a great spot for them and, uh, they're well rested. They played on the Thursday night. So I'll take the Saints as part of my teaser and I'll tell you who the other side is down the road.


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[Assistant] That's a layup though. He shouldn't be allowed to put him in there in that spot, but that's a whole nother story. Uh, I like the Cowboys in this game. I think it's a bad spot for the Bears. They're a young team coming off what they think it was. Big win on a short week. They put a lot into that game.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think their offensive line will be overmatched against the Cowboys front. So I usually, and I think that Prescott will play better here. Bears improved on defense, but I think Prescott plays better.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I like the Vikings in the spot. I think they're being a little...


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[Assistant] undervalued by a lot of people in this league. They haven't looked great, but they're just starting to kind of round in the form on defense and we know they could score on offense. Arizona, you mentioned all those points they scored, but they had two pick sixes. They're still not clicking on offense. Uh, I think this is a great opportunity for Vikings. I'll take Minnesota minus the three and a half.


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[Assistant] And they've been that way all year long. Now, Ellinger can move around a little bit, so that's probably why they're thinking about that. They also don't want to pay Matt Ryan if he gets hurt. That's another reason. But, uh, I, I'm not taking


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[Assistant] The Colts with Sam Ellinger in his first game. I'm just not. I'm taking the other side. Uhm, I thought Washington was better last week. Now Green Bay's offense stinks, but they were better on defense. I think that'll show up here. And one of the Colts showed


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[Assistant] Anybody that they should be laying three points at home right now with that bad offensive line. They can't block.


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[Assistant] If you can't block, you're not good. They're not gonna have problems. I like Washington plus the points. That's one of my best bets.


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[Assistant] This is, uh, one of the all time sucker lines of all time and, and it just looks weird, but I, my lean is to the Texans. I'm taking them in a teaser, getting the eight and a half.


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[Assistant] Uh, to go with the Saints on the other side of it because I just don't think the Titans, A, I don't think the Titans are that good. Uh, and B, I just, this line looks so funky. I, I, you know, when you thought it came out, what was the look ahead line? RJ4?


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[Assistant] And Davis Mills is playing a little bit better. He's getting better. His numbers aren't awful anymore. And so I'm going to take the Texans plus the points here in my second part of my teaser.


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[Assistant] Hey, by the way, uhm, if the, if the Panthers win, and the Saints and Bucks lose, the Panthers are in first place. That's disgusting.


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[Assistant] I think the Falcons get home and get back on track. They got ambushed last week and we kind of saw that coming. Uh, we thought it would be a high scoring game and I think they're going to get back on track and find a way to win this game.


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[Assistant] P.J. Walker had his moment. I don't think he's good enough. I'll take Atlanta in this one, minus points.


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[Assistant] The Giants, if I'm not mistaken, they're 5.7 per rush just like the Chargers, the last tied for last in the league.


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[Assistant] Ken now, by the way, we keep going with Kenneth Walker. I think he's Ken now.


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[Assistant] No, I think it was, I think it was Kenneth and he became Ken. Cause in college he was Kenneth Walger.


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[Assistant] Their offensive line is horrendous, and that defensive line will get after them. Just like they always do. When they play them, that's what happens. The defensive line dominates. They're gonna dominate in this game. Uh, I'm taking the 49ers. They're actually one of my best bets.


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[Assistant] This is an enormous number, but I would lay it. I'm like, it's not one of my best bets, but I would lay the points. There's no way you could take this Packers offense anywhere, anyway, on the road. So back to back road games to a team coming off a bye. I'll take Buffalo, minus points.


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[Assistant] And what you saw is what happened last week. That's who they should be.


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[Assistant] And now I have my, you can go on YouTube and find my picks in 60 seconds.


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[Assistant] They're on HQ. They're on HQ YouTube somewhere, I don't know. The social team made me do them. So I do pics in 60 seconds. And here I have to sit here with you for 50 minutes.


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[Assistant] And it's good that that's coming from Brinson considering he never makes mistakes, so.


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[Assistant] On ours, on mine, my push was the Vikings at minus seven.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we have it at five. Everywhere right now it's five and a half, six. If you can get six, I like the Giants. They're finding ways to win despite injuries thanks to great coaching. Daniel Jones starting to look comfortable running the offense. I think the upside's there with him.


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[Assistant] Baltimore's coming off a gutty win. They might be in a let down spot after a big win over Cincy there.


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[Assistant] Baltimore's offense is tough to solve for most teams. I think Wink Martindale has the best shot of anyone to solve it. No, you know, with his familiarity there. Uhm, so you know, like I said, five and a half, six in the market, which is why I didn't want to take the five here with us, but I would take six with the Giants.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the Saints defense not playing well because they can't stop explosive plays. They couldn't stop them against Seattle. But they are second on third down, second in the red zone.


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[Assistant] Uhm, well the good thing for them is that since the offense looks uninterested in explosive plays, they're 31st in yards for play overall. Jamar Chase down to 10.7 yards per reception after being at 18 yards per reception last year, uhm, which is, you know, surprising with, with him. You know, I figure he'd be better at getting big plays.


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[Assistant] So I think this matchup might be what the New Orleans defense needs to rebound. Since he's defense solid also and you just can't count on Taysom Palooza every week like you're saying.


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[Assistant] So uhm, I think it's a bad spot for both these teams too. It's a second straight road game for Sensi coming off a big Baltimore game. New Orleans has to go on the road on Thursday next, uhm, uh, to Arizona, I believe. Uhm, so I don't like either of these teams really. My lean would be to be under.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Michael Pittman's back for Indy, but, uh, he's been back the last few weeks and it hasn't helped their offense. They look terrible. Like you said, uh, Jacksonville's crashed back to earth seemingly, but last week they had six straight drives of 50 plus yards, um, at one point in the game and they just scored six points off of that. And that seems pretty unlucky to me. Um, so I looked at, you know, they had a little bit over 5.7 yards for play in the game.


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[Assistant] That was, uh, the Bucks in 2018. The Bucks had four turnovers in that game, which contributed to them only scoring three points. Then they went on and scored 86 points their next three games, 28.7 points per game. So that wasn't a thing that carried over. Um, you know, that the, I think you trust the yards per play yard more than you do the points.


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[Assistant] Less than a month ago, uhm, and Indy hasn't improved it anyway since that shutout, except for getting one receiver back.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that Indy offense looks like just a mess. I'm not, uh, such a mess. I'm not sure the mini-buy will help them here. Uhm, so I, I have the Jacksonville as part of my teaser at plus eight. It's up to two and a half now. I think taking Jacksonville plus two and a half, if you want to do that, is fine too.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the thing people look, they're, they're drawn to an injury report is, is the, the skill position players, obviously, because of fantasy and everything. Um, but definitely keep an eye on those offensive line injuries. Also keep an eye on those cluster injuries that happen at the same position.


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[Assistant] That's what I would look for when you're looking at the injury report there to see how effective they are at one position.