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[Assistant] He's still having a good game, like in terms of statistical, but there were definitely moments where you're like, man, Sam, come on. It felt like at one point, I mean, I was sitting, I was watching this game with some Panthers fans and it was like.


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[Assistant] So Steve Wilkes and Sam Darnold are just running it back next year. That's just how it's going to be. David Tepper doesn't have a choice.


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[Assistant] I still don't think that's necessarily off the table, but there's 6 and 10.


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[Assistant] That it does about the panthers like state of, current state of being.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Carolina wins again. Well, no, it would have been New Orleans or Carolina, whoever wins is in.


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[Assistant] And he's, and he's been like, he's had these two, these two big comebacks. And then he has this monster game against Carolina in a division, like a, like not a way to go home, but a clinch, clinch, a division where they were, they were down 14, nothing. They were down 21, 10.


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[Assistant] Everyone in the interstate side of the bracket would much rather see Sam Darnold than Tom, Thomas Edward Brady the 15th.


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[Assistant] Like no one wants that mofo walking into their stadium or going down to his stadium.


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[Assistant] Like, you don't think Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott can go down there and poop their pants and choke against Tom Brady and, not Tom Bowles, but...


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[Assistant] I just, it's not, it's not that we believe, I think it's for, I don't want to speak for Breach, but it's not that we believe in the Bucks, it's that the NFC, the NFC has become so murky with all these injuries and sort of questions about various teams that if there was ever a chance for a Tom Brady 45 year old


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[Assistant] Team to just sort of get randomly hot and make a run through it, uh, should be it.


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[Assistant] Again, you nailed the Bucs this year. They were bad all year. You're either going to win the division at eight and nine or nine and eight. You nailed it. You called it, you would say Brady would be bad this year. The Bucs would be bad.


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[Assistant] Okay. Speaking of people who look like Tom Brady, various points.


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[Assistant] Well, I'd actually read it before you get there. Jags Titans. Week 18. I wear a hot take here. It's not even a hot take, it's actually a factual take.


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[Assistant] Jazz are getting screwed by the NFL here. They're playing a week, week 18. They're playing on Saturday night.


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[Assistant] Titans play on Thursday night, rest all their starters. The Jaguars go out and do what the NFL wants you to do, which is compete and play their starters on Sunday, win the game. And look, the Titans didn't compete, but they lost.


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[Assistant] And now they have to play on a shorter week. Like they're losing like three days of rest to the Titans who, who, who starters didn't even play.


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[Assistant] But the Titans are like, I mean, again, you sort of go back to that kind of Brady concepts. It's like Titans have Henry and Mike Vrabel, who's a really, really good coach. And who else? I was going to say a little bit of.


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[Assistant] I mean, we don't know because everyone was magically unhealthy before the week 17 game.


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[Assistant] No, no, you went 10 and 4 this week and everyone else is below 500. Good job by you.


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[Assistant] I didn't scroll past your page. You're facing on the normal page.


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[Assistant] A ton. A ton. They have, I think, I think those are two very good points. A ton.


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[Assistant] But what Wilson's saying, like, Doug Peterson has won a Super Bowl and, like, laid his cojones on the line and ran the Philly Special, and Trevor Lawrence has won titles, and, like, smoked Nick Saban's tea. Like, I agree with Wilson.


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[Assistant] What a bleach answer. Okay, that's a fun game. Shout out to my brother, Charlie Brinson. He's going down for that. What? My cousin Jay Brinson going down for that too. To Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] I think Regina Smith would sign up for my subscription at RevengeGames.com.


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[Assistant] Yes, actually. Is that what it was called, Mr. Mittens? No, it's DefunctPanthersBlog, but yes.


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[Assistant] Where's .org actually? Cause somebody already had mrmins.com.


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[Assistant] Tried to hold his own, did not end up doing that. Just offense was the real problem here, I think. Mike White.


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[Assistant] 23 and 46, 240, zero touchdowns, two picks. Tyler Conklin, the leading receiver with 80 yards.


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[Assistant] Oh boy, Garrett Wilson, 11 targets, three catches, 18 yards. Not great for some people's futures.


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[Assistant] I think it's best for Chris Olavi to sit out week 18, frankly, for his family. Garrett Wilson or Chris Olavi? Chris Olavi, because I think Garrett Wilson would beat him. Uhm, I see.


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[Assistant] Chets are eliminated. We'll talk about it in a second. Seahawks, eight and eight, still alive. They can eliminate the lions if they beat the Rams in week 18.


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[Assistant] What are we, where are we at on the Seahawks? I mean, I feel like, again, I sort of look at it like a giant where.


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[Assistant] You'll be disappointed if they don't make the playoffs, but overall it's a better season than anyone ever expected.


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[Assistant] So I think this is where I'm at with the Seahawks right now is that, and I said it before the season that Pete Carroll is trying to recreate 2010 to 2011.


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[Assistant] And I think he's still trying to do that. Like Tariq, and I'm not saying that this is the legion of boom by any means.


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[Assistant] But they drafted offensive lineman, just like they did in 2000, in the, in the, in the, I think O'Kong was 2009 and Earl Thomas 2009.


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[Assistant] Maybe look at like acquiring another one like down the road at a, in free agency. They're going to explore their options without having to go all in on a quarterback early in the draft, unless they just love somebody.


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[Assistant] Oh, oh, that wasn't, uhm. I have no idea, go ahead.


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[Assistant] I think Derek Carr is a very good fit with the Jets.


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[Assistant] I got, I got no other argument. I've been saying for weeks that I think the Jets season.


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[Assistant] You know, you gotta have your skis a little bit with the Zach Wilson stuff. And they go, he's not ready for a timeline. No, you just, you're not that good. You played a little better than you thought you would. The Jets had a good season. Everyone's jobs are safe.


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[Assistant] Except for Zach Wilson, and you have to figure out the quarterback situation this offseason. That's paramount.


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[Assistant] How is it possible for these businesses to be worth


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[Assistant] They're getting sued over this by the dudes who were the offensive linemen. The offensive linemen from the Hawks era formed an LLC and they're suing the Washington football team for trying to, like, commandeer, ironically, or commando, I guess. They're, they're freaking Hawks off.


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[Assistant] The best part about the Washington football team is they accidentally came up with


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[Assistant] A kind of a cool soccer clubby type of name because they panicked and changed their racist nickname to Washington football team. And everyone loved it.


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[Assistant] And we have Devo on the pod, even though he's on wifi, he's still going to pop in and talk about it. Oh, there he is. I see that audio stream only. All right, buddy. Been too long. We missed you.


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[Assistant] You know, Devo, people who have listened to the podcast a long time know Devo, Eagles fan, Billy Eagles fan. Billy? He's a pompous, but he's like a high energy, optimistic Eagles fan. Devo? Petrified, paranoid Eagles fan, expecting the worst.


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[Assistant] Jalen hurts. It's two weeks. Dallas can steal the division. What's your panic level? One to 10, Debo.


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[Assistant] Before, before you continue responding to Wilson's rude insult, I want to say it's comforting having your voice back on the podcast. Really? It's a reality check for Eagles fans. Look, I love Billy, but Billy is Billy is not going to get, he's not going to get down with the Eagles.


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[Assistant] Take a demotion and come back and produce this podcast for an Eagle Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] There we go again. You really get yourself in these spots. I got a Snoopy tattoo. What's a garden mincey tattoo? If Joe Burrow throws five touchdowns tomorrow, I will go get a Joe Burrow tattoo. I'll tell you that much.


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[Assistant] Look, I don't, I don't, I don't think growing dementia is Dick Foles. I mean, the parallels are kind of crazy.


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[Assistant] Like the injury happened about the same time as Foles, Foles, I mean, excuse me, Wentz was the, the, like, it was Wentz and Brady were the MVP, you know, like head to head, just like Hertz and Mahomes. Hertz and Wentz got hurt around the same time.


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[Assistant] I think it's arguably one of the five, actually it's not even arguable.


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[Assistant] He's one of the five top five most important non-quarterback players.


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[Assistant] I think, I think, I think Jason Kelsey would tell you this Lane Johnson too. And like Jason Kelsey said, I think Jason Kelsey is a Hall of Famer, but yeah.


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[Assistant] Just for dragging Michael Lombardi through the streets of Philly.


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[Assistant] It just, it just feels like it's just trending the wrong way. Like it's just like, even with the stuff from 2017 that you can try to historically lean on, like if Hertz, if Hertz can't play, we talked about this breach, if Hertz can't play week 18,


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[Assistant] To, to, to win a game to guarantee him an extra week off, then the Eagles have been feeding us a little fib about the level of his injury, right?


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[Assistant] I want the Lions in the playoffs because I love Dane Campbell and I, I think I love Jared Golf. Wait, do you want the Lions in the playoffs or the Packers? No, I want the Packers. I'm saying my brain and my wallet have differing opinions. Okay.


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[Assistant] My brain, my heart, my heart wants the lions. My brain and my wallet wants the packers.


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[Assistant] Deeper's Return, I almost tripped on my computer cord there as I went to refill my cup and uhm, would have probably died with a concussion into my wall.


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[Assistant] I was just saying that I was going to tell Diba he's this close to really true perfection.


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[Assistant] I hope, first of all, you say that about you insulting me fools like that. I hope that someone close to that cancels you.


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[Assistant] Actually, Wilson, this is a good question for you. Somebody, I got asked this in chat earlier. What is, let's say that like things go haywire week 18, the Texans do something crazy.


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[Assistant] The Bears end up with the number one seed, which I believe is still possible, right?


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[Assistant] Justin Fields and the number of picks you would get for trading the first overall pick or the number one pick and the number of picks you would get for trading Justin Fields.


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[Assistant] I didn't love, I didn't like Justin Fields at Ohio State as a prospect. I thought that you could really, like his blitz pickup was really bad and that he got pressured a ton, he couldn't deal with it. And at Ohio State offense, a lot of times you just...


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[Assistant] The way he played against Clemson in that playoff game, man, changed, changed my opinion of him.


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[Assistant] He's not a great passer right now in the NFL. He's a great runner. And the Bears offensive line is horrendous.


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[Assistant] And the receiver and injured and the receivers are horrendous and injured. Like there's no way you could expect Justin field to be good. He's, he's carrying that team to being.


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[Assistant] Quasi competitive by virtue of his pure athletic ability. It's like a


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[Assistant] Homeless person's version of the 2015 Panthers with Cam Newton.


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[Assistant] Felt like the dead can't bounce for the Broncos a little bit. Russell Wilson is, uh, he's wearing a lot of padding.


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[Assistant] But he's also got these like, he's got like 10, uh, you call them Heisman moments where it's like, it's just ridiculous plays. And just, just the sense I get from talking to people who, you know, remember the MVP is that Mahomes is the guy, somebody has to take it either Mahomes says so minus 750. Holy crap.


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[Assistant] Well, Holmes either has to, he basically has to lose the Raiders in week 18 to not win the award, is the sense I get.


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[Assistant] I talked to a couple other voters off, you know, not on the podcast, and they were like, oh, Holmes is the guy.


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[Assistant] Everyone, people who are voting for this need a reason to not vote for Mahomes. And I think that reason has to be breached to your point. Joe Burrow like obliterates Buffalo.


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[Assistant] And then wins, like, and the Chiefs stumble and the Bengals steal the one seed. I don't even know if winning the division will get it.


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[Assistant] For sure. I'm not, this isn't even like an argument about the football nature of it. It's more about the award voting nature of it.


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[Assistant] As we've mentioned several times, they change the nature of how you vote now.


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[Assistant] You, you vote, you list for the MVP, you have to list five guys, one, two, three, four, five. And one, you get five points, two, you get four points. I think they haven't really explained it, but that sort of changes it. And.


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[Assistant] These, these votes are due. Your ballot is due. It used to be you wrote one name down, you pick your VP. Now you have to pick five guys.


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[Assistant] Which makes it, like we should, we should do the thing for like a Sean, what's his name, would have us do the five, the five, the list of five people. You have to, you have to think about the three, four and five more than you think about one and two most of the time.


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[Assistant] And I think that these voters are maybe, because they have about a 24 to 48 hour window to turn around this ballot.


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[Assistant] And they take it seriously. And I think they're sort of saying like, we're trying to get our heads right, like try to figure out where we think.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? They're like, Mahomes our guy, someone has to come and do something different in order to change our minds.


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[Assistant] Because we have to fill out this full ballot of it. And I just sort of think unless the chiefs stumble, it's just going to be Mahomes.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's a good point. And look, by the way, I mean, this is a tangent that nobody cares about. I'll make it short. Changing this, announcing this change in the middle of the season.


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[Assistant] When the NFL is like embracing gambling and everyone's betting on these awards and no one knows that this enormous change like the voting procedure is just another example of how.


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[Assistant] A lot of times these sports leagues, whether it's the NFL or the PGA or whoever the NBA is going to don't get.


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[Assistant] You know, we're talking about the schedule like this. It's, it was hard to figure out what the schedule is going to be for week 18 because the playoff picture is so muddled. It's a lot of the parody. Now in the AFC, AFC playoff picture, look at, we have two spots open. The four seed, which is the AFC South, can be won by the Titans if they win in week 18. It can be won by the Jaguars if they win in week 18. However, the Jaguars


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[Assistant] With the seven seats still open, currently occupied by an eight and eight new England team. By the way, Tom Brady also eight and eight can be won by the Jaguars. If a series of events happen, Miami is still alive and Pittsburgh is still alive as well. Right? Mm hmm. Just preach jokes out that y'all, um, Tennessee can only read the four seed. The seven seed will either be new England, Miami, Pittsburgh or Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] That sounds like a question. It's like, it sounds like a, like the question about the Breaking Bad, like season finale.


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[Assistant] If you don't saw me laughing, I was wondering what's going on. It's because I each put a tweet in our Slack chat from noted friend of the podcast. One of the hosts of good, uh, good morning football.


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[Assistant] And apparently noted mascot creeper, Peter Schreger, who tweeted out a picture of Jacksonville actually was wearing a thong. I would like to retract my statement about the speedo. That is a, that is a Jaguar thong that he's wearing.


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[Assistant] I mean, I had Jacksonville winning the division before the season, so I obviously am going to keep rolling with my Jaguars. And I mean, this is all seriousness. If it's a, if the Packers and the Jaguars meet in the Super Bowl, anyone who lives in Arizona or is near Arizona, you come and hang out with me, Breach and Ryan, I will buy your drinks.


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[Assistant] If Joe burrow lights up the lights of the bills and we get a Jacksonville Packers, uh, Superbowl, I will be like sleeve tattoos. Um, as far as the seven seed.


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[Assistant] And, and, no, no, no, but the Bills are playing for the 1 seed.


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[Assistant] Let me throw this out there. The Buffalo Bills in 2020 were locked into a spot in the playoffs. Did not need to play the starters. And they decided to beat the Dolphins 56 to 26, just to flex on somebody in the division. I think Sean McDermott, look, hey, preach. We know a few grumpy people from William & Mary occasionally. I think Sean McDermott would like to flex on


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[Assistant] If Sean McDermott has a chance to knock Bill Belichick out of the playoffs, they will knock Bill Belichick out of the playoffs.


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[Assistant] They won't, they won't, they won't do anything crazy like, you know, run Josh Allen 40 times.


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[Assistant] They will do what they need to do to make sure that the Patriots are not in the playoffs to remind them that this is the Bills division now.


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[Assistant] I do not think there's a chance in hell the Patriots beat the Bills in week 18.


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[Assistant] So is there a scenario where the Patriots can lose in so good? I guess like all three of those teams lose. They're good, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're all eight and eight and the Patriots have the tiebreaker right now. So if, oh no, is that the Jackson? Oh, oh.


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[Assistant] Is it- No, Jacksonville would win in your situation. Jacksonville has to win. Patriots, Dolphins and Steelers all lose.


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[Assistant] So if, if, if the, here it is, if the Jaguars win against the Titans in week 18, the Jets beat the Dolphins on the road. The Browns beat the Steelers on the road. And the Patriots beat the Bills, excuse me, the Bills beat the Patriots at home. Then the Patriots would still be the seventh seed. They have the tight recurve of the Titans.


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[Assistant] I think Buffalo will flex as hard as possible in the Patriots.


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[Assistant] When they flexed on the Patriots, when they flexed on the Dolphins. Just FYI. Okay, NFC, playoff picture.


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[Assistant] The number one seat is still open because Philly is slipping. The UFC East is still open. However, there are six spots clinched in the UFC. Philly.


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[Assistant] As it won the division, San Francisco is, San Francisco and Minnesota are.


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[Assistant] Everyone in the division are locked in that spot. Tampa Bay is locked into the four seat. They can't go anywhere else. Dallas.


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[Assistant] Believe, well, no Dallas can jump off of the Kizugawa Division. Giants are, are the Giants locked in the sixth seat? They should be, right?


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[Assistant] Yes, Giants locked in six, Tampa four. There's only two things are locked. Philly, San Francisco, Minnesota.


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[Assistant] And Dallas could, could mix around in the one, two, three, five range.


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[Assistant] The seventh seed undecided. Seattle currently holds it at eight and eight. Also available for your perusal. The Detroit Lions and Dan, PC Principal Campbell eight and eight and the Green Bay Packers.


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[Assistant] And Aaron Effing Rogers, who just shaved his head and is acting like he knows he's about to go on a run, which he's done three times before in his career at eight and eight. Mr. Wilson. Oh my gosh. You can do this quickly. Just say lions. We're going to breach.


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[Assistant] All Aaron Rodgers has to do is beat the Detroit Lions in Lambeau Field in like probably freezing weather.


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[Assistant] In a final week of the season when everyone's doubted him and he's been yelling, why do you keep doubting us?


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[Assistant] I'm saying this jokingly, but like, I was gonna do a mud and chops joke, but I'm not gonna do that. It's too cool, my face is too pale.


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[Assistant] You get it cut, you never shave your head. If you shave your head after you're 20, you're begging to get some weird thing coming out of your hair.


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[Assistant] I will do the week 18 podcast. I will write in non-permanent marker. Ryan Wilson was right on my forehead in doing the entire podcast. If the Packers win the game.


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[Assistant] You have to write Brinson rules on your forehead to do the entire podcast with no hats.


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[Assistant] Wilson Welch, Wilson Welcher. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. For Wilson, who nailed the interstate cell. And Breach, who's a Bingles fan. I'm Brinson. See you guys later. Bye.


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[Assistant] What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Big Six Podcast, CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Will Rintsel, your host.


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[Assistant] It's just week 15 early betting trends. Joining me to break it down to look at what's going to happen in the future to tell you what's going to happen in the future or maybe guess what's going to happen.


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[Assistant] I'm not surprised. I'm just kidding, Peter, don't get mad at me. My, uh, my electronic mouse for this computer died.


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[Assistant] The good news is though, I'll know to charge it before the recap show of Sunday night.


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[Assistant] I will buy that mouse, a first class ticket and fly it to Nashville and leave it in your house somewhere.


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[Assistant] Let's talk about, so we got two games, like one and a half games left in week 14, a crazy week. Uh, lots of things that will, you know, repercussions from week 14 will, uh, or, you know, carry on throughout the rest of the season with some of the crazy stuff that happened. We will recap that all after Sunday night football here on the pick six podcast, youtube page, youtube.com slash picks X. In the meantime, breach what your, uh, early.


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[Assistant] Coming back from being a Russell Wilson's backup, I guess. It's already 49ers minus three and a half minus 115, which means it's almost certainly going to go to four. Once you jump off that three number, it's not going to get to seven, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's like 49ers minus five. This team, even with that Demo Samuel.


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[Assistant] Like Christian McCaffrey is a freak. Like the dude's insane. And you know, you look at what he does in terms of receptions and where he catches the ball. It does a lot for that offense in terms of opening things up. And Brock Partingman has been unafraid to say it looks very comfortable in Kyle Shanahan's offense. Good decision maker. I mean, that guy can.


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[Assistant] You know, operate the couch and it can make a quarterback work in almost like any situation. Uh, what's next for you?


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[Assistant] I played some of the best football in the final four weeks of the final four games of the season he played last year and now he's starting to play the final, I guess, I guess it'd be final five games of the season, right?


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[Assistant] And you know, you could say that Joe burrow, uh, you can say that Joe burrow didn't have, you know, an elite game against the big or against the Browns, but he had a perfectly good game and he doubled the ball change your receiver. So, uh, I don't blame you for that at all. I think, I think, um, I think that, you know, when you look at this bingles team,


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[Assistant] I wouldn't want to play him. I wouldn't sure as hell wouldn't want to see him in the playoffs. If Berg it's cooking the way that he did previously and Tampa Bay, but man, they're not very good. I mean, I don't know what to say. They got absolutely thrashed.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, they're plus three and a half at home, uh, minus one 15. So maybe that comes back to three. I don't think it'll cross back down towards there. I think if anything, it would get closer. It'll grow towards Cincinnati because I don't think they care where they're playing. I think bro loves the idea of beating Tom Brady and you know, he just likes getting hot in December. The month of December is when bro gets rolling and.


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[Assistant] Playing top right, low total 42, Tampa can't do a whole lot on offense. Wouldn't be surprised if the big was running there and steamrolled him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's actually a move down to two and a half. I was going to say this is an obvious, another obvious mover candidate in terms of where the line could go and not because it's obvious where the line will go. It's just that.


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[Assistant] The line is going to be dictated by what the quarterback situation is. I think that reflects it. Like you make the round minus three at home with the Sean Watson. You can't feel comfortable about it because how poorly he's played since he's come in, you know, and he was, he took it. He was a much better in his second game.


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[Assistant] That he was in his first game. Like you could tell he knocked off some of the rust, but there's still plenty of it there. You're not on the same page with all those receivers. And Mark Cooper banged up as well. And you know, if, if Lamar Jackson is active for this game.


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[Assistant] I think this line like moves five points. Like I think the Ravens are favored by two. If Lamar is active, even though he hadn't been playing that great. Um, and if Tyler is able to play, it's maybe closer Ravens pick them. If it is Anthony Brown.


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[Assistant] Shoot up to like Browns minus four. I mean, I, I don't, I think I feel like this lie. I feel like they, this is a, you won't see this line at every sports book that you look at, but seizures has all the lines up. And I think it's sort of one where it's like, yeah.


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[Assistant] Like, we don't, they don't really know what's gonna go on with the quarterback situation, so that will probably dictate the move, right?


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[Assistant] Okay, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, then, but so what are they with Lamar? Like, minus four?


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[Assistant] Like, imagine, all you can think about is Biff Tannen and Back to the Future 2, when he's the old man.


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[Assistant] And you know, he's, uh, he goes up to his old, you know, travels back, he goes into his old self. He's like, let's.


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[Assistant] He's like, what are you talking about old man? Like if you would have somebody before the 2022 season started and said that the week 15 game between the jets and the lions is going to have massive playoff implications.


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[Assistant] Important for the playoff race, but it's a massive game. Um, you know, the jets are now, uh, I believe in the currently in the seven spot at seven and six, the lions are in the nine spot in the interstate six and seven. I, I mean,


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[Assistant] I think this is kind of a, I mean, I don't want, I think, I would have a hard time taking the jets. Like, I, and it's sort of a bet, like, like picking with my heart situation, which is always a stupid idea. Don't pick with your heart, Brenton. Right.


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[Assistant] Total 47 and a half. I mean, they're expecting a lot of surprising, a lot of points in this game. Um, I think the, I think the lions get it done too. So I would probably lean towards the lions, especially because we don't really know what's going to happen with the Jets quarterback situation. If Mike White was starting, would it be Jets minus one or two? Or is this still a picker maybe?


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[Assistant] I lead towards the Lions as well. This is again, a line that could obviously move based on the quarterback situation. All right, let's take a break. Let us know your best bet trade.


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[Assistant] That is every single one of them, Brenton. All right, let's take a break. We'll come back a few more lines that could move next.


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[Assistant] Alrighty. So, uh, you know, obviously you, um, you know, you have these situations where when you're doing look at, you're doing look at lines, which we are essentially doing right now, where you have a Monday night football game.


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[Assistant] We're between the, uh, the Cardinals and the Patriots, Patriots at Cardinals. And you have, you know, you have lines for those teams. Sometimes you don't always get them, but sometimes we, in this case, we do have a line for the Patriots at the Raiders, which is a pick them right now. Now, I don't think, I think that sometimes like the Vegas, like, I don't, I don't think they want to make the Raiders favorites in this game.


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[Assistant] Belichick sort of revenge angle last time he played against Josh McDaniel, coached against Josh McDaniels, McDaniels beat him.


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[Assistant] Very awkward handshake at midfield, but he just didn't keep his job. Belichick did keep his job and did very well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, if the, if the, if the Patriots smoke the Cardinals, I think we could see this line sort of shift towards the Patriots. Let's see you.


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[Assistant] What if the Cardinals win? Uh, then this could shift towards the Raiders.


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[Assistant] What, you know, will there be like 40 chess going on or is Belichick just like this fool? And remember the Raiders are coming off, we'll have a 10 day break. That's part of why this line is out too. There's no Cardinals.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we don't, we currently don't have a Cardinals Broncos line. Oh my God. If the Patriots win.


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[Assistant] On Monday, that would put the Arizona Cardinals at four and nine, which is the, uh, five and eight for the Raiders. So I mean, just a really worthless game on a, on a, on a Sunday afternoon between two teams, two very disappointing teams with, uh,


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[Assistant] Franchises who are too cheap to fire their coaches are likely too cheap to fire their coaches. Yeah, I think that would be the one thing like if, you know, if the Patriots roll the Cardinals, I think you have a.


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[Assistant] Yes, the Raiders 10 days, many by, but the Patriots, a lot of motivation to try and push for the playoffs. The Raiders may not be motivated anymore because their playoff chances went up in smoke. Thanks to Baker Mayfield's wild comeback on Thursday night, the hackers at the Rams of the Packers. Baker Mayfield didn't look great the whole game, but he looked great late.


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers not great this season so far. A total of 40. This line is 8. I think that's going to come down below 7.


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[Assistant] I think that is way, way, way too many points for a Green Bay Packers team to be giving to a remotely competent Baker Mayfield in a Sean McVeigh offense, um, in primetime.


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[Assistant] When are the rams like, exciting right now? No. Are the rams gonna score a bunch of points? Hell no. But can the rams keep it within a touchdown? Yeah, I think so. That's, eight is a lot, man.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, the Packers are Packers are five and eight though, by the way. Um, oh, when it gets the Rams.


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[Assistant] At least make the Packers season a little more interesting. If they went away. So there's still some motivation there. Aaron Rodgers will come to play. He and Baker Mayfield, fun little.


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[Assistant] So they've had, you know, maybe an extra week to, to get, you know, maybe put it in a package of place for Justin Fields, get things healthy, but like,


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[Assistant] The Eagles are a destructive force right now and they've clenched the playoff bid and now they're trying to sort of lock down.


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[Assistant] You know, the division, the Cowboys saved themselves from, you know, complete self-destruction against the Texans on Sunday. There's still two games back of the Eagles, uh, what with four to play.


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[Assistant] So, you know, take a business trip to Chicago where you just pound the bears, a team that you can run all over, a team that shouldn't be able to throw all over you because Mooney's out for the seed, Darnell Mooney's out for the season.


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[Assistant] You know, you're asking Justin Fields to do a lot with a decent with a good pass rush from, uh, Philly.


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[Assistant] This feels like this could be an absolute bloodbath for the, uh, for the egos. And I can see this line getting like, you know, to 11 or 12 even.


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[Assistant] The, uh, yeah, not at all. I think, I think it'll close double digits for sure. The other one that could potentially potentially go, uh, even higher, it's already 14, which is ridiculous. Um, 14 on the Chiefs might 14 on the road at the Texans. You know, the Texans gave it their all against Dallas. I could see like a sort of a come back to earth against the Chiefs who, uh, you know, also trying to chase the number one seed.


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[Assistant] I don't know how high this could go. Like, I don't know what you would have to, what you would need to, you know, to, with the Chiefs to actually like lay the points. But I mean, like I've definitely, you know, taking Chiefs minus 14 right now. If I'm not taking Texans plus 14 against the Chiefs. Uh, so I think that one could maybe, uh, trickle up a little bit too as well.


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[Assistant] Betting trends and odds and picks and line movements for week 15. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Tune in after the show. Tune in after Saturday football for the recap show for reach. I'm Britain. See you guys later.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody. Welcome to the pick six podcast, CBS sports daily NFL podcast. I'm Wil Brinton. I'm your host. It's a week 12 best bets show. Weird week. It's Thanksgiving week. Everyone's like, Oh, I mean, look, everyone loves Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is a lot less fun when you want to have to drive around, you know, multiple States or multiple cities in one state, or if you have to record NFL content,


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[Assistant] Because you know about the schedule works joining me to break it down. Pete Prisco and RJ White. What's up boys.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. I mean, Thanksgiving was the only, uh, was the only holiday. That was when we would drive all the way down to Jacksonville, Florida. You, you, you, where you used to live. Your, your old stomach grounds. We used to drive down to Jacksonville every year with my whole family.


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[Assistant] I mean, Bob Brinson, you, you buddy, you better, we're out the door at 5 30 a.m. And if you're not ready, you're riding in your PJs, pal.


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[Assistant] I love Jacksonville. Anywho, uh, let's dive into these best bets. Uh, actually we'll recap. We can have it real quick. RJ three, two, and one. I went two and four Pete for two and one. You guys were hot all the year. I'm bad on the year.


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[Assistant] The Ravens are going to Jackson over there. Excuse me. We can actually fun fact. The first NFL game I ever went to was my grandfather. R. I. P. Daddy Pat.


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[Assistant] Took me to a Jacksonville Jaguars game over, I think it was Thanksgiving weekend or maybe it was later in the year, but regardless, he was an OG original Jacksonville Jaguars season ticket holder. Most of my family.


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[Assistant] Thanks Pete Prisco is a despicable human being because they all grew up in Jacksonville reading your columns about the Jaguars. I'm just kidding. They think you're great Pete. Uh, Ravens are minus four on the road in Jacksonville. Pete, your thoughts here.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think the under is a pretty good look. I'm going to have the, I mean, excuse me, I remember the Ravens is the best bet. Uh, I'm probably a sucker for this because it's, you know, laying four on the road on a holiday weekend. Again, like I've been the lazy person down in Jacksonville and thanks even weekend might be tough to get up in that spot.


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[Assistant] Like the Ravens kind of sleepwalk through that Panthers game and there's a little bit maybe of a wake up call and realization that, hey, you know, you know, the Bengals are, the Bengals are creeping. You can win this division is yours for the taking. If you want to go get it.


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[Assistant] I think they come out kind of hot against Jacksonville and to R.J.'s point about the defense, the Ravens defense is starting to become a strength of theirs and it was a major, major weakness the first few weeks of the season. It's a totally different team. If you can find some good numbers on the Ravens to win the Super Bowl, uhm,


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[Assistant] Trying to think what they were last, what are they, I was looking at it last night because of your hour 49ers RJ now six, uh, less than under seven to one to win the Superbowl Baltimore and 13 to one to win the Superbowl. I don't hate six to one to win the.


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[Assistant] Conference is a little, little short. Uh, but, um, I'll take the Ravens as a best bet for me.


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[Assistant] Next up, Saints at the aforementioned Hour 49ers.


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[Assistant] Niners coming. Oh, this line has already moved up to nine. We have it. We're, we're taking it eight and a half. Um, full disclosure, we record this show a little bit earlier than normal.


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[Assistant] So be prepared to watch those lines.


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[Assistant] Niner's coming off a just an absolutely dominant win Pete on Monday Night Football. They flexed on a bad Cardinals team, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah. If Jimmy G Jimmy Garoppolo plays playing the way he's playing the last two and a half to three weeks and the Niners look like a really good team. They have, they're like, they are the epitome of, um, the original Batman.


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[Assistant] Kyle Shanahan is loaded with weapons. Total here, 43. Your thoughts?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm with you on that one. Um, I mean, I don't, I mean, you had a better argument. I was going to get for it. I think the one thing you have to worry about a little bit is the market, not the market correction, but just like, man, I mean, the 49 look, the 49ers look great and


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[Assistant] Of course they can win the Superbowl. We've seen them go to the Superbowl. We've seen them have a lead in the Superbowl with Jimmy Garoppolo against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. Uhm, they were a Joe Christie tart drop pick away from, uh, you know, making it back to the Superbowl with Jimmy Garoppolo last year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, I'm with RJ. If you can find it, eight and a half teases down under three. Like that a lot. Uh, I think the New Orleans team total is probably a good look as well. I'll tell you, he's a sneaky Super Bowl bet. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] They're going to win the division and you get Tom Brady's going to win three games. Okay.


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[Assistant] Uh, box minus three at the Browns, the final game before the Sean Watson returns. Slides actually creeped up to three and a half. Unfortunately, we have it at minus three and I think that we are, they have a consensus situation going on here. Total 43 and a half. Pete, your thoughts.


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[Assistant] I got table, my series of best bet as well. I think I will probably be betting on the under two. Um, it's down to 43. It's a really low total.


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[Assistant] But if you look at it, or maybe, maybe the move is Cleveland team turtle under, if you look at the weather here, Sunday in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Looks like it's going to be 19 mile an hour winds. Basically the duration of the entire afternoon, 49 degrees high, raining like crazy.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know how low this total can go based on weather. I mean 30, I mean 39.


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[Assistant] He would have to get really bad I think wind-wise for it to come down that far, but man.


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[Assistant] This has all the makings of a lot of Tampa Bay rushes and Cleveland completely unable to stop them. The Packers at the Eagles.


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[Assistant] Philly minus seven total 46. By the way, I should point out you're looking at all these low totals.


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[Assistant] Last week, first week of the year that overs went above 500, uh, uh, for, for a full week, eight and six, favorites covered.


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[Assistant] By the way, the Ravens played with their food against Carolina. That was weak.


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[Assistant] Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni bailed out the entirety of the NFL media from having to like listen to Jim Ursay talk about the fact that Jeff Saturday is 2-0 after firing Frank Wright.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, it's, I mean, it's, it's tough, man, because you, it's hard to look at the green Bay Packers and you know, they have Aaron Rodgers, you know.


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[Assistant] I mean, I mean, this is, there's this, you know, the last game was their season, right? And now this is actually, they're like, this is, this is, isn't this a must win for Aaron Rodgers?


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[Assistant] They really should have, they really should have kept it a lot. Like I know they lost by 10 to Tennessee, so it wasn't close, but like, I mean, Aaron Rodgers missed so many throws in that game and he was terrible.


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[Assistant] I just don't, how is he gonna come into Philly and just be better automatically? I don't know man.


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[Assistant] Ramps at Chiefs. Chiefs minus 14 and a half. I don't see Pete, uh, the total here 44. I don't see how it's possible for the Rams to


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[Assistant] Various arm ailments, um, and general issues he's dealing with.


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[Assistant] It's over. Okay. This is the worst season ever for a defending Superbowl champion. Shut everyone down and play for 2023.


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[Assistant] Like, I don't, I mean, there's, there's nothing wrong with that. You're giving away a high draft pick, but you were giving away, you were giving it away anyway, and you won a Super Bowl. So like, if the Saints give away a high draft pick to Philly, like, that's a bad look.


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[Assistant] Because you didn't need to. The Rams giving away a high draft pick to Detroit. You'll want a Super Bowl. It's fine. It's whatever. Shut everybody down and just like let the Chiefs obliterate you here, right?


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[Assistant] No! No! Don't you dare put Philip Rivers behind his offense line. My two future Hall of Famers can cuss. The answer is that my guys can cuss behind his offense line. Well, one anyway. Oh, Stafford.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, we don't have a team total on the Rams yet. Um, again, record this, you know, just thanks every week. That's the schedule. That's how it goes. Um, what would the team total need to be for the Rams for you to take the under RJ?


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[Assistant] So in other words, be looking for a Rams team total that is.


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[Assistant] Alright, 13 or higher, excuse me, and take the under. You prefer 14, obviously, because you can dodge a two touchdowns if John Walford does some weird stuff. But I mean, they are going to be able to move the ball. And Kansas City is more than capable of just eating up clock.


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[Assistant] If they're down, if they're down double digits, starting at half, Aaron Donald shouldn't play. Like pull everybody.


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[Assistant] Howard, sorry, the Saturday football game was that Packers, that aforementioned Packers-Eagles game. Monday Night Football is the Steelers against Jeff Saturday's Colts.


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[Assistant] I mean, look man, he's got him playing well. It helps to have, uh, Matt Ryan in there instead of Sam Ellinger, as Frank Wright would point out. I actually loved Nick Sirianni getting up in the face of


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[Assistant] Ultra minus two and a half. I was thinking he pick it.


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[Assistant] Total here, 39 Pete on Monday Night Football. Real scorcher.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like that a lot. I do too. That's nice. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, I kind of want to jump on that teaser, but I don't know about the other part of your teaser, which I can see in, which you'll reveal shortly. Um, although anyway, um, man, like.


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[Assistant] Is this, so I mean, I think like this point, like Jim mercy is like, it's a Jeff Saturday is getting hired full-time next year. I guess it's over. Like it's, it's decided.


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[Assistant] Okay, I think, I think Ersei needs, if he wins one more game, I think it's over.


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[Assistant] The done deal. What, what, what makes you, what's like the alternative there? Like what are they going to do if they don't hire Jeff Saturday? Go hire a coach. They have a coach.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, you know, it's, you know, it's pretty crazy. The first coach fired this, this year, Matt rule.


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[Assistant] Leaves football and jumps into the jumps into media with no previous media experience. He was on CBS sports network on a Monday morning, Monday, Monday QB. And then he was also a good morning football on a, on Tuesday and will be back on Wednesday. And then the, the second coach fired was replaced by a guy who left the media and came to coaching with no coaching experience.


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[Assistant] To move to the GM slot for the coach, for the, for the Colts.


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[Assistant] That's actually a good one, yeaah. Pete, Pete, Pete could be, uh, Pete, would you be able to be your assistant GM if you're the cult GM?


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[Assistant] Chat's minus four and a half. Over under forty one and a half.


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[Assistant] Justin Fields versus Zach Wilson. We don't know Pete, uh, total here 40. Uh, I'm curious one, what you think about the game and then two.


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[Assistant] What you think about the Zach Wilson situation? Because I think it's like the Robert Salas.


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[Assistant] Opening things up is entirely based on Zach Wilson's just disastrous answer at his press conference on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I've got, uh, the Jets is the best bet as well for that exact same reason. I don't, I mean, Ryder Wilson made fun of me on the podcast on Sunday. Like if you're the Bears, you found absolute.


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[Assistant] Gold in Justin Fields over the last three or four weeks with the offense that you started a fashion fashion around him that Luke gets. He started to build Justin Fields has looked awesome.


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[Assistant] Certainly developed as a passer, obviously, clearly a fantastic running quarterback. Does he have some way, like he's not, he's not there yet. He's still, you know, a young guy who's developing, but he, he's doing it with a bad offensive line and minimal weapons, right? Darnell Mooney are basically the only guy. Colt Comet kind of coming on strong too though. Like there is no reason to play him in this game.


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[Assistant] Everybody's safe because you're, it's your first year, first year coach, first year GM. It's flashed enough after you traded all these guys mid season.


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[Assistant] Them doing the obvious thing and fashioning some plays around his athleticism versus Matt Nagy who fashion zero plays around his.


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[Assistant] For sure. And look, like, it's still, the roster's still a long way off. This is a bad football team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, people need to calm down and travel large. He's fine. Broncos. Timber Broncos are favorite on the road because they're going to Carolina.


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[Assistant] To play the Panthers. Broncos minus two and a half.


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[Assistant] Total here of 36. Uhm, look, I can't imagine there's going to be a whole lot of people in the stands here, so I don't think there's any home field advantage for Carolina, uh, and plus the Panther Stink.


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[Assistant] I mean the under 36 is, you know, I'm going to take the under 36 as a best bet. Like I've, I've seen this sleepwalk before. Sunday after Thanksgiving.


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[Assistant] I mean, what do you call it, Pete, when everybody's packing their bags, knowing that it's like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, like the, like the Broncos players are thinking about Cancun at this point, like the season.


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[Assistant] You're thinking about like getting off and playing golf and sitting on the beach if you're in Denver right now.


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[Assistant] He's bad. He's bad, man. He's had like, he's had like two good halves the entire season.


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[Assistant] It's, it is, it is one of the wildest. Like the Geno Smith, Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] There's gotta be a meme, like some kind of meme we can put together about Pete, like just like, it's like, it's like, you know, the way the car is swerving off the highway, the meme, it's like Pete.


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[Assistant] I, he, he's, well, you remember he, he, he was, he gave me a league of 24. He's 35, man.


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[Assistant] I think you gave them, I think you gave them six really good years. 2021 of course, the final year of Seattle, they went six and eight. But like, I mean, you know, their worst season in those six years, like sort of post-ish, uh, Legion of Boom, you know, they, they made the playoffs all but one year. Their worst season was nine and seven. Like they were, he was, he was really good.


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[Assistant] No, I mean like the 2021 season, like Pete Carroll saw something that no one else did and dumped this guy on the Broncos for a bunch of picks that are looking like great draft picks. Like it's, it's looking like a heist. All right. One more game and we'll take a break and then Pete can skip. You get on time, Pete.


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[Assistant] All right. Chargers at the Cardinals. Chargers minus four. Um, on Caesar's is already up to four and a half. We're playing it at four.


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[Assistant] Can't imagine Kyler Murray's playing this game. Um, Wilson and I got into a big argument Pete about.


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[Assistant] Whether or not Cliff Kingsbury could get fired. I mean, of course he can get fired. I don't think he will.


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[Assistant] Okay, so the contracts thinking about to him, Kyme, and uh, and Kyling this offseason. Man, this Cardinals team, not looking very sharp.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, the Chargers do like to keep it and keep it and play close games. Uhm, the other thing you got here, I mean, play Mitch and Cliff Kingsbury, right? It's daily. I mean, this is this might be a like these two coaches. This might be a save your job game for both these guys. Uh, the way that things are going for those two teams.


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[Assistant] So we'll see. I would, I would lean towards, ugh, I guess the Cardinals on like a dead, not a, just like a, you know, bounce back with what you saw on Monday night and, and why, you know, everyone's gonna be bouncing, jumping in on the Chargers because of how bad the Cardinals look.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I, I thought Colt McCoy played better than he was given credit for on Monday night, you know, just under siege by that, that, that pass rush of the 49ers. Alright.


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[Assistant] And RJ and I, and RJ and I don't, don't leave until I say next. And RJ and I will, will rip through a couple games coming up next.


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[Assistant] Pete left, Pete didn't actually have to work, he was just worried he was going to take the commanders again. Commanders minus four.


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[Assistant] Hosting the Falcons over at a 42 and a half. I can bet it's actually playing like kind of decent the last few weeks, aren't they?


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[Assistant] I kind of like, kind of like the under here. I mean, you look at these box scores for Washington and they are just not afraid to keep it in a low scoring game. Even, you know, you know, when you have.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'll go ahead and take, I'll take the under as a best bet actually, a 42. Um, the Falcons love to run. Washington would, Ron Rivera would love nothing more than to, than to squeak out a


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[Assistant] 20 to 17 game on Thanksgiving weekend, um, in that four and a half is, it's just asking a lot, especially when the Falcons have been, I think they're, uh, seven and four against the spread or.


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[Assistant] Six and four against the spread seven and seven and three against spread something like that. They've been very good against it or started out hot against the spread have not been great. Uh, the last few games, but certainly they could cover that, you know, lose by a field goal here. And it wouldn't be that surprising Raiders at the Seahawks Seahawks minus three and a half over under 47 and a half. That's one of the rare robust totals we have in this


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[Assistant] I would think Seattle as well. Uhm, the Raiders three wins are against the Broncos and the Texans. Like that's the only, those are the only teams they've beaten in the NFL this year.


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[Assistant] Yes, they lost to the Cardinals and overtime, those other, they've had close games, of course, a lot of one score games, but I mean.


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[Assistant] We saw that offense get completely dominated by the Saints in recent weeks. They lost to the Jaguars on the road. They lost to Jeff Saturday in his first game. Like they will lose to anybody and the Seahawks are actually a decent team coming off the by, uh, you know, on the two back to back games on the road coming off an emotional overtime win. I like the Seahawks here as well.


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[Assistant] I don't know about, I guess the term, I guess this would be a popular DFS game, but I mean, my gosh, these, these.


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[Assistant] These games are not, uh, these games are not great on Thanksgiving Sunday. Bigel's minus one and a half at the Titans over under 42 and a half.


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[Assistant] I think I'm going to throw in a principal best bet here. RJ Titans plus one and a half. Um, yes, the Bengals are playing well. Yes. Joe burrow is looks fantastic. The Titans.


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[Assistant] Man, line of scrimmage is a bad matchup for, for Cincinnati and their offensive line, even though even if you think they're playing better, Tennessee's up front.


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[Assistant] Uh, but Mike Sater had a, a column this week talking about why, like, like how Tennessee gets their edge. And it's kind of fascinating, like.


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[Assistant] They basically like induce, they've added more points.


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[Assistant] Uh, like in terms of EPA, then any team since in the NFL by like a huge margin in terms of generating false starts and like, and various penalties against, um, their opponents. It's really interesting how like variable focuses on that and like other coaches and GMs notice it and talk to Sando about it. So I recommend checking that out. Um, I very Bella check in.


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[Assistant] Exactly. They call him New England 2.0. Like it's almost like, and they're like variables on the competition committee. Apparently recently he sent a reply all to like every GM and coach in the league where he's like skating or he's like ripping the officials for something. Like this guy's like,


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[Assistant] Tell it 40 chess. My man, 40 chess. And also you technically would have a slight revenge angle for the playoffs last year if you.


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[Assistant] So I'll still take Tennessee plus one and a half is the best bet on the principal because I don't think variable should be a dog at home. But RJ's point is correct.


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[Assistant] If you want to bet it, wait and see what Jamar Chase does because this, you know, worst case is you're taking Tennessee as a pick them versus one and a half. And best case is if you want to take Tennessee, Jamar Chase comes back and you can get.


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[Assistant] I mean it could go three, but you are chase. That's not, that's not that crazy. All right. Finally Texans at the dolphins, the dolphins, uh, we have it at minus 12 and he's gotten up to 13 over to 45 and a half. Dolphins are coming off the buy, right? Yes.


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[Assistant] Coming out, coming out the back. Yeah, coming out the by and playing a team that I believe is switching quarterbacks like the Texas are so desperate. They're switching quarterbacks. It's sort of like I can't remember who it was, but the guy who like could make any free throws or he started shooting left handed.


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[Assistant] Like just like, all right, screw it. Like that's the only other, like the Texas are really, really bad team and Miami potentially could just obliterate.


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[Assistant] Uhm, any reason to look at like the Houston team total here? Like take, I mean, I just stay away. This is kind of a dangerous game. Man, I didn't even realize that they're at San Francisco next week. Wow, that's a big, big game for Mike McDaniel.


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[Assistant] The game for calcium. All right. I need to look at for you for week 13.


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[Assistant] Oh man, I love Coach. I could, I think I could take Coach in a wrestling match. Oh yeah, I'm sure.


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[Assistant] Here's a recap. Best bets. Pete has the Jaguars plus four. The Saints plus eight and a half. The Bucks minus three. The Packers plus seven. Chiefs minus fourteen and a half. The Steelers minus two. Sorry, Steelers plus two and a half. The, and RJ has the


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[Assistant] The Jets minus four and a half minute. I'm taking some stinky chalk here.


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[Assistant] Under 36 in the Panthers and Broncos game principle play under 42 and a half in the Falcons commanders game and the Titans plus one and a half. I have too many bets to take to add on the Dolphins minus 12. I kind of want to do that.


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[Assistant] It's going to be 15 by the time it closes if they send Davis Mills for Kyle Allen. The Texas are terrible. All right. That'll do it for us. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening for the, uh, faceless, headless Pete Prisco or RJ. I'm Brinson. Talk to you guys later.


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[Assistant] What's up fellas? Very kind of you to say, Brenton Breach. I was actually going to, I thought Brent was going to say what's up and I was going to actually toot my own horn so I didn't have to. What are you going to say?


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[Assistant] Yeah, if not logger. So Joe Musso, who frequents the chat after Sunday nights and is an anchor at CBS Sports HQ, just asked this question to me and Brian McFadden. Uhm, do you move?


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[Assistant] Put Aaron Rodgers on the old bench and go with Jordan Luff from Here and Out. You have an out. And Brinson likes to have an out. The out is the injury. But even if he's healthy, Aaron Rodgers ain't playing next year. Let's be honest. I can't envision a situation where he wants to come back to this.


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[Assistant] Organization where it is a rebuild. You can call it a tiny rebuild or a medium or a big rebuild, but this is not a good football team. They're currently behind the.


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[Assistant] The Lions in the division, they're barely ahead of the Chicago Bears, and that's only because Trevor Simeon had to play today. I'm rolling with Jordan Love, he's in year three.


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[Assistant] He's got another year on his deal before he has to decide about the fifth year option. See what you have.


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[Assistant] Oh, there you go. So see what you have sooner than later. And to your point, Brynson,


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[Assistant] And Aaron Rodgers, you know, according to Trico and Collinsworth, admitted.


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[Assistant] Jordan Love has looked a ton better this year compared to his rookie season.


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[Assistant] Um, or last year, he's in year three in terms of training camp, uh, throughout the season. He's getting on the first team rep till Wednesday because Aaron's been sitting out with a thumb injury and he was dealing. It was only two series. He made a ton of great throws in those two series, including touchdown pass for admittedly Christian Watson did the heavy lifting. Um,


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[Assistant] What do you have to lose other than making Aaron Rodgers mad and Aaron Rodgers, I would imagine Breach is probably, I would put it at five and a half percent that he returns next year.


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[Assistant] So one last thing and we'll talk about the team that actually won. So let's say Jordan Love, ball's out.


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[Assistant] Ball's out in a way where you're like, okay, this guy is an NFL starter. And then Aaron Rodgers wants to start. Are you right, Beckett?


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[Assistant] I don't care about that. He's 39 and he's got one year left maybe.


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[Assistant] But my point is that even if he comes back next year and he's 100%, that's, you only get one year Aaron Rodgers after that. He's not going to play for 40 years.


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[Assistant] The pick didn't work out well because you get them for this 50 year option and you only have one year and then you got to sign them to a huge deal.


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[Assistant] All right. I don't think he's going to play next year, but you think he is going to play Breach. Where are you? And then let's talk about the Eagles.


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[Assistant] But this team is going to win, you know, they could win 12 games next year. They feel like they're closer to five or six wins.


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[Assistant] I never thought this. This game was never as close to 7 points. They were up 13-0, then 13-7, then they went for it on 4th and short. 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 and came up short both times. Then the Eagles came back and, excuse me, the Packers came back and actually took the lead 14-13.


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[Assistant] Breach, this feels like sort of like 1991 football where you have a triple option quarterback, like college football, not even NFL. And there are no answers because he's the best athlete on the field. It's almost like Earl Campbell is your quarterback who can also throw the ball really well. And


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[Assistant] You know, we talked about the last three games, the Colts game they won by one point, the Cowboys game they lost, the Houston game, they struggled in that game and didn't look themselves, but they did win. The game before that is when they blew the doors off the Steelers and A.J. Brown was pointing at people because he was abusing them so bad. And my question is,


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[Assistant] It feels like if you find a way to stop Jalen Hurst the runner.


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[Assistant] There's a backup plan and the backup plan is also a huge problem because you don't have enough, uh, defensive weapons to, to slow down the either or proposition that this office provides. Oh godly. Come on, Wilson, get the


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[Assistant] I think Breach actually noted that he's Derek Henry. Like, you're not going to arm tackle him. It's not like Kyler Murray who can run around and he can rip off a 60 yard run. You're going to tackle him, like a safety can tackle him with his arms, trip him up.


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[Assistant] No, he was like, no, I'm not talking about the passing stuff. I'm just talking about his ability to run the ball. It's insane. And that shows up week in and week out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Middle Tennessee State, Shrine Bowl invitee.


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[Assistant] Uh, didn't get drafted and like the rest of us, he probably didn't think he was going to be playing tonight. Uh, Chauncey Gardner, CJ Gardner Johnson got hurt, which looked like it was going to be a huge loss. And the, the first thing that old Reed does is jump a route and get an interception against Aaron Rodgers. I mean.


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[Assistant] You can't even, you can't even make that stuff up. I think he came off a little later with a bloody nose, but I think he's going to be fine. But I mean, look, you know, we give, um, what's his name? What's the GM? Howie Roseman.


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[Assistant] Flack for some of the decisions he made, including drafts in jail and hurts in the second round.


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[Assistant] He's pretty good at putting together rosters, so hats off to him, hats off to Reid Blankenship on that. Uh, third, I think it's the third play of his career, like he had not been a little bit at all.


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[Assistant] About Trevor Lawrence. Well, I'll just say this and I say this with all the humility in the world.


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[Assistant] The worst quarterback records by a number one pick through 27 career starts. Top of the list. Jeff George.


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[Assistant] And, to be truthful, it's funny, I got a couple of tweets and luckily they added Brentson to the tweet so he could retweet it like a butthole. But, uh, those were fair points. And, uhm, one person, let me call them out because they actually did make a really good point.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so... Who was it? I'm trying to think. I can't find it anyway. He, uhm...


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[Assistant] He made the point that not only did Trevor Lawrence play great this game, which I readily agree with, he's actually played pretty well the last few games. And I think that's also an important note. Uhm, Stephen Brown III. By the way.


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[Assistant] He's getting his PhD in math at Clemson, so he's probably pretty smart. Might be smarter than me. Uhm, but that's a fair point. And that last drive is exactly what we've been waiting to see from Trevor. And the offense stalled in the first half. They were up and down. It wasn't entirely Trevor's fault.


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[Assistant] But I think the bigger issue is that we just hadn't seen it consistently. And I wasn't as concerned about Trevor Lawrence as I...


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[Assistant] I am and was about Zach Wilson, who, you know, can barely turn over 50 yards a game. But this is a huge win. And I think it says a ton that Doug Peterson, uh, to your point, had the onions to, to put his team in that position because he trusted him.


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[Assistant] As Billy does my trolling for me with the graphic from CBS Sports social team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you don't want to be on the same list as Jeff George and Jabarges Russell, but I think Trevor Lawrence is going to have a much better career. So yeah, I take back my concerns for Trevor Lawrence. That doesn't mean he, he won't have a few hiccups down the road, but hopefully this is a sign of things to come. And one last thing I'll point out is Andrew Wingard, uh, told the media after the game, I'm still happy for Trevor Lawrence because he had to deal with Urban Meyer last year.


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[Assistant] I would, Doug, I would die for Doug Peterson, I swear. I love the guy. And that feels to be the overarching sentiment.


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[Assistant] When you think about this year's Jaguars team, even though they had just three wins coming into this game compared to last year's Jaguars team, which just as around the time last year where they played the Bengals and old Urban got in trouble going to his old restaurant.


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[Assistant] So, just a wild guess, and you can just buzz in and answer first. Most losses.


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[Assistant] Uhm, sure. Let's see, maybe I'll get to that. Uh, four teams in NFL history have led by more than one possession in each of their first 11 games. The 42 Bears were 11-0, as were the 0-9 Saints and the 2011 Packers. 22 Ravens? So...


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[Assistant] I was going to say, Breach, do you want to blame Justin Tucker for causing them to lose this game? All they had to do was make a 67 yarder.


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[Assistant] By the way, Breach, if you're watching on YouTube, Billy put up a photograph. That's not two yards short. That feels like eight or nine yards short.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Michael Kenji Izumi agrees with me. He said it was about 10 yards short. There's no way that was two yards short. That's not 30 feet short. That's just not what 30 feet looks like.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, if I'm John Harbaugh, can I petition the league just to play three quarters? Because in which case I will never lose another football game. Otherwise there are concerns because I don't know what's going to change. We're here now in week 12. This is what's going on in week...


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[Assistant] Whatever, two or three or four. And I just read off those stats that you were going to read off and I beat you to the punch.


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[Assistant] Because they are who they are in terms of weird things happening to them. I don't know if they put themselves in a position in terms of John Harbaugh making a weird decision late in the game or an untimely fumble or overthrow or interception by Lamar Jackson. This was more a function of that defense just letting Trevor Lawrence do his thing this time, but you know.


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[Assistant] Make him a C plus only because they, they could have two or three more wins right now. And I think Jacoby Bursette was an absolute, like Jacoby Bursette's an A plus on the Russ Wilson scale, which is an F double minus. I think he's been, I mean, honestly, Breach, if you put Jacoby Bursette on the, on the Broncos, Nathaniel Hackett is not getting fired in two weeks. Catch of the year in a couple of weeks.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's, I'm just going to ignore the last 10 seconds. You mentioned overtime, however, before that 11 seconds ago. Tom Brady's record is 13-4 in overtime. Actually 13-5 now after this. Do you know who holds the record with the most overtime wins?


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[Assistant] Alright, Britson, I'll give you, the guy has retired in the last five to seven years. I'll give you that hint. And it's not Peyton Manning.


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[Assistant] He's going to the Wilburnson Hall of Fame, let me put it to you that way.


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[Assistant] But uhm, yeaah. So, great catch by Ninjoku. I stand by my contention. I think I was the only person to pick the Browns to win this game. Among the CBS quote unquote experts. More like the lame stream media if you ask me. But, uh, I am not sold on this buck scene.


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[Assistant] I remain unsold on this buck, Steve. Uh, Princeton, do you want to make the case that...


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[Assistant] All the teams in FC South are below 500. Do you want to make the case that this team is going to win a playoff game?


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[Assistant] So, uh, Breach, how do you feel about this Browns team now that they should, and I'm just, no, I'm fine with it, I'm just saying what we didn't talk about. The Browns did win the game, I'm just trying to bring it back.


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[Assistant] I think you disagree with me, uh, disagree with Brenton about his contention that Deshawn should sit for a little bit. How's his team gonna look when Deshawn gets back, which is right now, because, and they play the Texas next week, I believe.


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[Assistant] I know people in Cleveland, well, my buddy who's a Browns fan who grew up there, has been saying for months that he just wished they had kept the picks and rolled to Kobe because it's not going to be, it's not going to be worth it. But I think that Deshaun Watson of healthy started in every game from here.


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[Assistant] All right, Brentson, I'm gonna ask you one question. You have five seconds to answer them and we're moving on. Sean Watson's back next year starting every 17 games. Aaron Rodgers is back starting all 17 games for the Packers. Who wins more football games next year?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think the Watson answer is closer to the truth. Alright, what's next?


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[Assistant] Is there a uh, caveat if Zach Wilson isn't the star?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was great, but don't forget the guy that started for the Bears because Justin Fields banged up. Some butthole wanted to start Justin Fields this week. It wasn't me. Uh, Trevor Simeon at one point was the guy that like, Oh my God, this guy is going to be the successor to Peyton Manning. And he was the seventh round pick out of Northwestern.


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[Assistant] Hit the breaks a little bit. It's a great story for Mike White and he has played well previously and we'll see how it goes.


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[Assistant] But in terms of him or Joe Flacco, I don't know. It's, it might end up being a half a dozen of one, but I think the bigger takeaway and I'm interested in what street you were standing on when people said he needed a mental break, a mental break from what throwing for 150 yards every week. Like he hasn't been asked to do anything. The defense has done the heavy lifting in the running game as Breach.


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[Assistant] Let me ask both of you this. Let's assume Mike White stays healthy. Uh, he's gonna start every game from here on out. I think that's probably gonna work.


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[Assistant] Like if Zach Wilson, if they, if they lose every game between now and week 17, then I think Zach Wilson starts the final game of the year. There's no reason to bring him back. The team, it sounds like the team was frustrated with him. If you listen to Garrett Wilson's comments last week, speaking in generalities, no one was whinging this week when, uh, Mike White threw for 315 yards. You played to win the game. Tell him, Herm.


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[Assistant] And by the way, yeah, um, Salah said that Mike Wise started next week, so that part is absolutely correct.


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[Assistant] He should have told us that two weeks ago. He's already benched. Let me, uh, put this to you then we can move on from NFL on CBS's Twitter feed. The last two quarterbacks with multiple games with 300 passing yards and three passing touchdowns in their first four starts, Mike White and


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[Assistant] Wanna guess? Uhm. He's also going to the Princeton Hall of Fame.


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[Assistant] Say it again. So what's the set? The last two quarterbacks with multiple games of 300 passing yards and three passing touchdowns in their first four starts. First four? Mike Watt!


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[Assistant] And let's start calling him Heisenberg. What's that? Is he still active? Oh yeah. He's, he's the, one of the five best players in the NFL right now. Is it Matthew Stafford? It's Patrick Burrow. It's who? Patty Mahomes, baby. Oh my God.


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[Assistant] I'm sure the life of a punter is one in which you are always asked to hold the camera. But anyway, go ahead.


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[Assistant] I'm not going to go into crazy hyperbole, but I will say if you, you know, you're watching a couple of screens and you look up and you see T Higgins making acrobatic catch after after acrobatic catch, which he's done for most of the season, especially once, when Jamar went down, he looks a lot like AJ, AJ Brown out there, AJ, AJ, uh, who's AJ? No, um, AJ, AJ Brown? No, who's AJ that played with, uh,


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[Assistant] AJ Green? AJ Green? Gosh, I forgot his name. I got the wrong color. So uhm, yeaah, and he is not AJ Green through the entirety of his Bengals career, but he is, he's a truly special player and a guy who should have gone in the first round and idiots talked me into not put him in the first round in my draft.


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[Assistant] And the only other thing I'll mention, actually a couple of things. I made this note. Teegans caught a touchdown pass on that jump ball early in the fourth quarter to make it 20 to 13.


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[Assistant] And Roger McCreary was in coverage. He's our second round pick out of Auburn. I love Roger McCreary. He is one of the best sort of cover cornerbacks that came out last year. The issue is he's undersized and I think he ran in the four fives.


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[Assistant] The 4-5 was an issue, but you can be the best player on planet earth if you're 5-10 with short arms going against someone like T Higgins. It doesn't matter. And that's sort of the difference. And that's, that's just something.


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[Assistant] Uh, I made a mental note on, uh, again, pointing out how good T. Higgins is, but also, if you, physically, you have to be able to compete. And finally, the last thing I'll mention, Breach.


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[Assistant] On the scale of dumb special teams plays on the season, where does the one rank for the Titans giving the Bengals a ball back at the end of the football game?


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[Assistant] Caleb Schudek was, I think he ended up going 2-3. Breach. Uhm, I was going to ask you quickly. Right now, who wins ZFC North?


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[Assistant] No, the Bengals are winning. Do you know what the odds are? 58.5 to 48.5.


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[Assistant] Breach, if this doesn't happen, you will shave your head. I guarantee you the Bengals will beat Tom Brady and Deshaun Watson. So.


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[Assistant] Alright, what's next? Great win for the Bengals. Uh, the Titans are still, uh, a fun football team. I love Mike, Mike Vrabel. They're gonna win the division.


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[Assistant] There's a whole conversation about beating a team three times in a row, if you're at home, like...


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[Assistant] Buffalo has been playing great. I mean, if they get there, get back on track, absolutely.


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[Assistant] So Tyler's 0-3 since Call of Duty came out, but in his defense breach.


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[Assistant] He's over his career, one in seven in November, so who knows what's causing what. Uh, in terms of the Chargers,


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[Assistant] Justin Herbert remains the best social media quarterback on the planet.


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[Assistant] I mean, I, I love this guy and I apologize all the time about being down on him coming out of Oregon and that that's on me. Uh, let the team in rushing.


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[Assistant] Austin Eckler did more of his damage, uh, through the air than on the ground, but, but that's okay. Uh, you mentioned that Keaton Allen came back. Uh, he did some things, finally opened things up. Gerald Everett had that T1 conversion, that little angle route, which is a fantastic play. I give Brandon Staley ton of credit for not even hesitating. And it's interesting you mentioned the Jaguars went for it.


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[Assistant] And Brandon Salem, the Chargers went for it. And we'll talk with the team in a second. The Raiders didn't go for it. Like they kicked the extra point, which was sort of interesting, uh, to tie it up, to get it to overtime. If you're watching on YouTube, uh, Billy just put the, the Chargers tweet, which is trolling the ever-living daylights.


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[Assistant] Carolina Tarheels. Oh, I didn't see that game. You'd think that was Kevin Seymill. Uhm, but. I'd be happy to.


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[Assistant] But for me, uh, the issue isn't so much the chargers. There's six in five. Let me ask you this, Breach and Brenton, if you want to join in.


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[Assistant] The Chargers didn't charger this game up, but they came close in much the same way that Falcons came a few weeks ago and then last week against the Chiefs, they, you know, did what they usually do. Is this a sign of this team turning the corner? Or are we only just a silly musky away from them being the Chargers?


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[Assistant] You're allowed to change your mind? Okay, we'll keep going.


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[Assistant] Not the collar part, the clip part. I mean, if you have to move on from somebody, it's got to be Cliff.


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[Assistant] Today's game to go back and watch the last episode of in season hard knocks, which was the, the Mexico city trip in which they got their absolute doors blown off by the 49ers. And I'd never really paid attention to clip Kingsbury in terms of the way he coaches and how he talks his team. But there's some behind the scenes things where he's, he keeps saying things like, find a way. And I'm thinking.


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[Assistant] You're the coach. You find a way. Why are you telling your team to find a way? And it's a, it's a coaches. I mean, that's things that coaches say, I get it. But as it relates to this team and specifically, you're like, okay, this guy has no idea. He has no plan. And it's feels like week in and week out, he gets out coached. The only thing, not the only thing, one of the things he has going for him is that he's incredibly handsome. He doesn't strike me as someone who was scheming things up.


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[Assistant] We have proof from Collin Murray that he can't to put his team in the best position to make plays. So.


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[Assistant] Who knows whether he's around or not next week, next year, 10 years from now, but this team has woefully underachieved and I don't know how you can sort of justify keeping around some of the cast of characters that are currently there.


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[Assistant] Look at that, Joe Musso's in the chat. He was there on blimp day when he was out on the west coast covering covering the uh, the right is


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this quickly before we move on. Uh, Breach mentioned that the Cardinals could have saved their season with a win. I know how Breach feels about that. Chargers win? The Cardinals could have saved their season with a win.


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[Assistant] And I know how Breach feels about the rest of the season, because he's a jack-butt. What? 5-7 maybe. Did the Chargers save their season with a win today?


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[Assistant] Uhm, Lucas Polowski makes a good point. Uh, I'm, I'm basically Frasier. Yea, you're Cheers, I'm Frasier. 100%. I could lean on that. I'm a huge Frasier fan.


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[Assistant] Again, you're, you're burying the lead about, about Derek Carr. Derek Carr wasn't the main attraction on that offense.


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[Assistant] That even sucks. And that's, that's been a mystery.


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[Assistant] Uh, close your eyes and open them at 8.30 PM. You saw the Seahawks defense playing, uh, pretend to be the Green Bay Packers defense. Those are basically the same teams. That's fine. Um, and that's just reality of it. I will say this, um, they had two sacks the Raiders did today. I think Max Crosby had a sack and a half coming into this game. They had as many sacks, 13 as Matt Judon did. So they could.


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[Assistant] They got after it on defense, which was nice. They finally got an interception. I think they came into the game with like six turnovers, which is, uh, among the worst. And they, they got a pick from Gino. I think that's, I'm looking at the right, uh, thing there, but in terms of Josh Jacobs.


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[Assistant] That's so incredibly huge because Derek Carr for most of the season has felt like he's been, he's taken on a lot. Whether he's been asked to do it, I don't know. And they've come up short time and time and time again. And I think having a running back that can do these things. And he was as effective, Josh, like it was on the ground as he was through the air.


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[Assistant] Is a great development and unlike the other teams we've mentioned where the coaches are on the hot seat.


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[Assistant] Number one, Josh McDaniel's not going anywhere, even though he has more trips to the principal's office than anyone. And it feels like this team had issues in the locker room, not with the coach, and that seems to be getting better. Of course, winning breach helps it.


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[Assistant] Alright Breej, I'll ask you the question I asked Princeton earlier. Next year, Derek Carr, Sean Watson, Aaron Rodgers all return. Who's the best team?


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[Assistant] Rence is making a face. He wants to go all in. I'll still take the Packers. I know it. I know it.


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[Assistant] I feel like when Mark Davis came out and said you're not getting fired, everyone's like okay, let's move on to harass Nathaniel Hackett.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, of course. Uh, again, if they had any semblance of a defense, they would have won. Uh, just to follow up, their car gets hurt, goes out of play, Jared Seddon comes in, comes in the next play, throws a touchdown to Amir Abdullah. That's when Amir Abdullah did the karate roundhouse kick and got flagged.


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[Assistant] Uh, for, uh, whatever, uh, not on this. What is it called? Uh, unfortunately, it was awesome. Like it was fan freaking task. He was right at a karate kid and he almost kicked the defender in the head. It was so funny.


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[Assistant] Thinking it was a great idea to try a roundhouse kick someone at a football game after scoring a touchdown.


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[Assistant] I'll be honest, I didn't watch a ton of this, uh, but the one fun fact I have is Taylor Heinecke is 10 and 4 in his last 14 starts.


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[Assistant] They're exciting. And Heideke, he threw a terrible interception in the first half.


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[Assistant] And then he came back and he made a bunch of throws, and that seems to be the blueprint.


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[Assistant] Falcons. As Breach noted over Thanksgiving, the Lions are probably a better team than the Falcons, and I think I stand by that. I don't know if Breach has changed his opinion based on the way they play today.


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[Assistant] If you haven't seen this big hat, it is absolutely amazing.


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[Assistant] I think Brian Robson no longer looks cool when it comes to fashion.


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[Assistant] A couple, a couple of, uh, sort of logistical things. Now it's great if it's raining because it's basically built an umbrella on your head. But when you get in the car, you gotta take it off. Look, you can't get in the car, you're going to hit your head every time you get in the car. No, then you, then you buy a convertible. So it's a lifestyle, Ryan. It's a lifestyle. Okay.


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[Assistant] I give Brian Robson credit for helping his buddy out cause this is the exposure that this thing has gotten. Cause we, no one, none of us knew about it. I went and looked at her Instagram page. There are people all over the world wearing these stupid hats at football games and stuff. Who they? I had no idea. Yea, on your website it's like somebody who's in Nashville


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[Assistant] Billy, you're 26 and you, you're, and you fashion yourself a, a fashion person. Might you run into someone who has one of these big stupid hats on?


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[Assistant] It's an umbrella in the fashion statement. It's not, there's no functionality. But he's not outside and it's not raining. Then it's the fashion statement. You have two choices.


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[Assistant] But to Billy's point, I mean, you have baggy shirts where you can wear shirts that fit. You have baggy jeans where jeans that fit. I guess you run out of things that are baggy so you make your, your, uh, your new hat the size of a friggin' pumpkin and you put it on your head. I mean, it's crazy.


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[Assistant] That's the thing, like, this is, they could not have paid for more publicity than what they're getting for free. So Brian Robertson did his job.


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[Assistant] I know, I know you're obsessed and it is incredibly weird. I granted, don't get me wrong. I just don't want to spend 10 more minutes on it right now.


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[Assistant] Washington has a better chance of beating Minnesota than they do of beating Tampa Bay.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which of these teams in the NFC that currently aren't in their current spots that I'm about to mention here, which team is most likely to finish in first and which team is most likely to finish outside of the top 7?


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[Assistant] And which team is going to finish first? That's currently not in first. That's not Philadelphia.