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[Assistant] And I'm on the offensive side of the ball there, I'll be honest with you, I'm really liking it. Alright, the physicality of it. I've got my girls literally just knocking people over, taking them out.


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[Assistant] And I tell them, if you, if you kick for the ball and you miss and you happen to hit someone else, that's okay.


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[Assistant] 100%. I mean, if I was a team, right, and I've got a quarterback like Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] And they've done this essentially. I mean, Tyler Huntley has a similar skill set. He's not as dynamic, but when you look at the other quarterbacks they brought in, Anthony Brown, who started for them last year, all those guys can run that system. Maybe not like Lamar, but similar in nature. So I think you might see some more teams that are more apt to want to do that.


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[Assistant] I was inactive at that point in time. Charlie Fry was our starter. Derek Anderson was the backup.


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[Assistant] And at one point in time, they activated me and Charlie Fry at that point in time ended up getting traded the following week, but I'd been activated because of that. And at that point in time, he just couldn't go back into the game. Usually it is due to injury where they'll deactivate that player.


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[Assistant] Kinda talking me through all that and I was just like super excited. Cause when you're sitting there in uniform and like you're not actually active, you're kinda like, alright, this feels kinda stupid. Now you know you've got the chance to go in and play, it feels a lot different when you're out there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so Patrick has worked with Jeff Christensen for quite some while. He's, he's one of the various quarterback coaches that you'll see people out there working with. Uh, there's a lot of good quarterback coaches out there, uh, at this point in time in their careers. This isn't to take anything away from, you know, Tom House or Jeff Christensen or anyone else, but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the thing that Trailance needs the most, and we, you can work on those sorts of mechanics. I mean, I remember being a part of a Broncos team with Tim Tebow.


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[Assistant] To add on another small little tweak and you drill it and drill it and drill it and then you hope and then you eventually.


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[Assistant] Build all those together right through a sequence of doing these exercises.


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[Assistant] So it's really hard when you're talking about, you know, throwing motion changes to make it at this point in time in their life.


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[Assistant] Uhm, hopefully Trey Lance has enough time in the offseason to just focus on that and not worry about, you know, learning a playbook and other stuff because he's been there, so you should know it by now.


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[Assistant] You know, you hope that once the live tape comes on, all the things that he's practicing now and he's working on, those translate to the game. But until you get there, it's really hard to create that realistic scenario to know how he's going to react.


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[Assistant] Make it be somewhat biomechanical, it could be somewhat just the amount of reps that you take as an NFL player versus college. The season is longer, you know, the amount of practicing, the throwing that you're doing is even more so than you've ever done before.


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[Assistant] You're changing the torque from one area of the body to the other. And so then lower back becomes something that you start to be more concerned with depending on the mechanics.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest with you. I think they're just trying to incentivize, you know, less kickoff returns because special teams plays have always been, uh, you know, higher probability of getting a concussion.


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[Assistant] And so when the NFL looks at rule changes for the sake of player safety, this is one of the things that they'll champion and they'll tout like, Oh, look, there's, there's less, you know, we've changed tackling, we've changed the helmets, we've done all this. It's like, well.


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[Assistant] When you do multiple things, it's harder than to get a feel for what exactly is the root cause or what exactly, you know, is the byproduct of that change.


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[Assistant] Uh, and so yeah, you're, you're probably going to be incentivizing some teams not to return it altogether, uh, because of the fair catch. Uh, a lot of teams have taken the approach of trying to do more of like a mortar, mortar style kick.


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[Assistant] So you can put a lot of height on it and try to tackle them and try inside that, you know, 25 yard line. So then they steal a few more yards. Um, and just not to get into the whole data and analytical nerdy part, but a lot of coaches have all this.


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[Assistant] It's cool. I was going to go back to San Francisco. I'm, I'm, uh, What? No, can't talk about it. No.


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[Assistant] That is probably the point I was going to bring up is, um, Santa Clara, the stadium itself, that area around it, it's nice. It's just tough to get in and out of. I mean, I was literally gridlocked calling a 49ers Chargers again this past year trying to get out of there. It took us an hour and a half.


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[Assistant] I mean, that area is so difficult logistically, that's not going to be fun.


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[Assistant] He lives on the edge. Like if you wear a jumpsuit and you're that, you're that like just loose or free with, with fries and ketchup, you're living on the edge, man.


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[Assistant] But in all seriousness, you should be preparing yourself to be in downtown, not so much in Santa Clara. Cause that's where everything's going to be throughout the course of the week. They won't move on site until you get to like Friday, Saturday, Sunday.


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[Assistant] It's like ordering an EV right now, okay? Uh, how many people are still waiting on their Tesla Cybertruck?


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[Assistant] Uhm, what's next? Like we just forget about stuff. Like literally the news cycle, the social media cycle of news and how people absorb things and look to the next thing.


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[Assistant] They just kind of get tired of like trying to pay attention to being patient to wait on stuff. Exactly. I'm not saying that this won't happen.


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[Assistant] But, and, and this is one of the reasons why I wanted to bring this up, because it's happening in other professional sports leagues. The, uhm, the NWSL is expanding, right? The women's professional soccer league. The WNBA is expanding. The women's professional basketball league.


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[Assistant] And one of the things that you learn and you hear when you're part of these conversations, you're talking to some of the people who are influencers in these leagues, is that they're always looking for the right ownership group.


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[Assistant] And to find that group, it's difficult because you, you gotta be comprised of the guy who's really rich, who could be the majority owner and who is the person who's ultimately going to be, uh, making the decision, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, or strategic partners in helping you kind of navigate, uh, whether it's renovations in the stadium, relocating the team, all those things, right?


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[Assistant] So those are all things that you're looking for as part of that group. And it sounds like obviously the Harris Group has that group together, but


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[Assistant] You know, they might be seeing a new precedent with the amount of people who are involved. Because the NFL is going to be doing background checks of all those folks. Uh, and then obviously the debt limit is something that, especially in today's, uhm, you know,


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[Assistant] I guess today's financial climate, you know, interest rates are really high. And if you're already over a specific amount that's been set there for a reason as a threshold,


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[Assistant] So I think they want to get this right, and so it's going to take a lot more time than probably Will Brinson thinks.


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[Assistant] I've got all the money. Just go ahead and sell me the team. Uh, Mr. Dan Schneider, like just go ahead, give it to me and let me do my thing with it. And Jeff Dezos is able to do all the wonderful things that he's done so far in creating Amazon and flying out our space. And then he's going to have a football team.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I have no idea what that means. Uhm, when I watch them, I don't see similarities in their play. Uhm, you know, I think as far as like overall just like Super Bowl caliber winning quarterbacks, they're both that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's kind of where I'd, I'd stop. I mean, I think they both have very different styles in which how they go about doing it. I mean, Andrew Luck was a sneaky good athlete. I don't think he got credit for how athletic he was, but I also don't think he was as, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, when Josh Allen first got in the league, he was very much doing that. You know, Andrew Luck was always more of your, your kind of, uh, cerebral quarterback who's looking to make the right throw, right decision. But what if he has to, but he understands that's not necessarily what he wants to be doing.


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[Assistant] Um, and so there's, there's obviously differences, I think in the way they play. I think Josh Allen's probably got a stronger arm. Um, that's not saying that, well, that's it looks arm isn't strong. He's got a really, he had a really strong arm.


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[Assistant] But it just wasn't Josh Allen strong, which may be the strongest in the NFL. So, um, yeah, I'm not sure what that means, but.


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[Assistant] Look, it sounds more than anything else. If that's what you're looking at, I think you're missing the point. I think that's maybe the quarterback that Deandre Hopkins wouldn't mind trying to go play with because he's putting out a list of what he wants from his quarterback, uhm, that was out there, which is also something that is a little bit concerning. If you have to put out a list of what you're looking for,


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[Assistant] Then maybe you're already saying that, like, I don't have that right now, right?


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[Assistant] I've heard it's a great game. All right. So I'll just kind of just leave it at that. Like you can't really judge someone unless you've played it. I don't play it. So I don't know. The people who do play are like, dude.


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[Assistant] Don't, don't do it. Because you, you will get addicted to it if you start playing Call of Duty. And I'll be honest with you.


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[Assistant] I feel like I've watched some other people who like took a hard stance against it. They started playing video games. They got themselves addicted. All right, Sam, are you, are you more of a link, a breath of the wild type of guy?


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[Assistant] You have those like, like different guns, you're just killing aliens and stuff. That was probably the last game I really was like, alright, like, I need to, I need to stop doing this. Like, I've got a problem.


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[Assistant] I think back on, and Nintendo 64, that was, when Bond came out as a multiplayer game like that, and I would dominate the proximity mines, like I would just literally plant them everywhere and then hide in the corner.


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[Assistant] This is the path you go down when you want to not be a part of the team, right? Like, Kyler Murray's under contract, they've got a new head coach, they've got a new general manager, they obviously haven't moved on from Kyler, and they kind of can't because of the contract. So, he's there for this year, we don't know what happens after this year, right?


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[Assistant] And, and look, that's not saying that like, Kyle and Murray can't turn things around. I mean, we tend to forget the first three years he was building towards.


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[Assistant] All that being said, you know, this is the path that DeAndre Hopkins probably has to take if he wants to move on. And I think he's at the point in time of his career.


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[Assistant] He's proven how good he is. He's one of the best wide receivers in the NFL when healthy. And he's, he's towards the end where it's like he wants to go get a ring.


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[Assistant] You know, he wants to go out there and have a shot at doing it. And I think this is unfortunately either the path that he's chosen to take because he's thought a lot about it, um, or maybe he's being coached by his agents. I mean, God forbid we ever have agents get involved with messaging and part of the process, but it's, um, it's unfortunate reality of how this works if you want to try to get to another team.


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[Assistant] No, you, you, you understand it's the business part of it, but it, it definitely is the human nature part where if that's a leader and that's a guy who's got the trust of a lot of the guys in the locker room and he's viewed as a leader, then they're going to be looking at what he's doing and they're going to be saying, oh,


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[Assistant] Because I don't want to be a part of a rebuild or I don't want to be a part of a sinking ship. And as bad as that sounds...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, always, uh, always excited for players when they're able to get in on a deal like this. It's a great business deal. And here's the only thing that I think it leads my mind to think is,


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[Assistant] The NFL owners are probably going to look at this, um, and then they're going to say, okay, we'll let this, we'll let this fly because.


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[Assistant] I think the NFL owners have to be careful about how this works moving forward. Cause once one player does it, it's a precedent set. And then a lot of other players who are going to be very wealthy are going to say, well, how much is there a threshold? Is there a bar of a minimum of investment?


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[Assistant] Uhm, that you have to put in. Obviously Tom Brady's made a ton of money, and he's gonna make a ton more money, maybe more so broadcasting than playing. Uhm, but the reality is too,


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[Assistant] But I think as we see more players cycle out, who are first bout Hall of Famers, guys who we look at as some of the all time greats that made a lot of money, cause the money's only going up, this could pop up more often you think.


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[Assistant] So, so this is the hard part is, you obviously, uhm,


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[Assistant] If that were, if that were the case, right? And I think we all know between Tom Brady's wealth that he's built and the money that he probably could put together in order to buy the group if Robert Kraft wanted to sell it.


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[Assistant] But let's go down that path because if there is anyone that Robert Kraft would be willing to sell to and maybe even at a discount, you'd have to think that it would be Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] And so if that opportunity presented itself, you'd really have to look at it and say, like, I don't know, maybe it's written within the CBA where that's not necessarily allowed or it should be written. And so maybe this will spark that conversation that as you kind of pointed on, will.


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[Assistant] To not allow it to happen, like it's just, you can't have a player who's gonna own a stake or be a part of a team that he played for because of that concern.


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[Assistant] Or even the quarterback room, like, is Garoppolo sitting up front looking at the screen, and then Josh Mcgann was just behind him coaching on something, like, being like, you know,


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, he's right. You know, Jimmy, this is really how you should be doing this. And if you don't want to do it this way, we're going to have to move on from you. So yeah.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's one, one of two other ways of looking at this, okay? It's either that it's the ultimate troll job by Tom Brady, like he happened to choose the team because he was, he didn't draft you, Jimmy Garoppolo, and whatever transpired in that quarterback room, he's like, I've got so much money, whoever this guy


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[Assistant] Like, no one ever saw this coming, like both those two good looking quarterpacks.


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[Assistant] Yep, go ahead. Maverick and Goose, whatever other tandem you want to talk about. Batman and Robin. It's like, we know who's playing which role, but that would be one hell of a dynamic duel.


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[Assistant] It's hypocritical, one, for the NFL to be making as much money as they are off of, you know, these books and maintaining the same gambling policy you've had for forever. Look.


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[Assistant] I think the NFL and the NFLPA really need to come together and say, we're only hurting ourselves if we're like potentially putting every single NFL player, personnel, everyone at risk.


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[Assistant] If we don't change our policies. And I'm not advocating for them allowing gambling on the NFL. Not at all. And not even necessarily, uh, in team facilities. Like I think that's kind of a gray area where like if it's May and the dude's betting on a playoff hockey game,


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[Assistant] And he had to do it from his locker because he was there until 7 PM. Like are we really that concerned? I mean, I just think they should, they should really allow this.


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[Assistant] Geo sensing. And the problem is if you turn off your location, right, that's not a part of that bet. You can't make the bet. Well, you can't make the bet, but also to your point about the process you just talked about, that process isn't gonna kick in and so it might have your old location.


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[Assistant] But hold on, but hold on, that's, that's through wifi though, right? Yeah.


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[Assistant] If they have a cellular connection, that would make it kinda irrelevant.


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[Assistant] I mean, I played a time where you went back to the offseason in March. There was March Madness. You had pools. You had people. I mean, it happened. Like, we're never condemning that. I mean, like, are we being serious right now about, like, where do we draw the line in regards to what we consider gambling or what's not?


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[Assistant] You know, is it not your fantasy leagues if there's money involved? Is it not the march madness when you fill out a bracket and people are throwing in money to that?


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[Assistant] I mean, it's like, at what point do we draw the line with all of this? So, I just think they really need to have a good, long, hard conversation about revisiting the gambling policies that are in place. Putting in, Katie, as you pointed out, some different measures to try to prevent that, but,


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[Assistant] Again, if they don't have a bookie, like I'm sorry to admit it to people if this is the truth, they can still go find a bookie. Like, there's legal, people can go buy marijuana in states where it's legalized. Guess what? They still have someone who's selling that's not necessarily...


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[Assistant] I go back and forth here and I was like, I'm like, I'm like, man, I'm so sick of talking about the Cowboys. And I'm like, but God, it's so entertaining. Like I think I've referenced Mike McCarthy's decision to come out publicly and say,


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[Assistant] By the way, you know, Brian Schottenheimer, you are now in an exclusive club with Brian Schottenheimer, friends of the podcast. He's been on the podcast. That's right. Yes.


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[Assistant] I ain't really done with this running back room. Like, I mean, they, Jerry Jones loves some Z Kelly, man.


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[Assistant] And eventually they're going to get to training camp and Zeke's going to be unsigned. Zeke is still unsigned, right? I feel like I knew that. I was like, but it's just crazy. It's like Zeke Dalvin, Deandre Hopkins. I mean, this is how it works. And people are always surprised. They're like, why have they found a home?


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[Assistant] They don't want, they don't want to work out. They don't want to practice if they don't have to. They're veterans. They don't need to. Uh, and teams don't want to overpay for them and they want to see what they need down the road. I guess I wonder, do you think they're done with this running back room or could we see somebody like a Dalvin, somebody like a Zeke added later?


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[Assistant] And that makes it tough for the Zeke idea too, where it's like, you've got this group or this running back room that you like and sort of like, you know, uh, you know, this, why do I keep making sidefell references like people.


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[Assistant] People actually, it's like, uh, you know, George is like, we're breaking up and she's like, no.


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[Assistant] I mean, they've got some pretty stout investments in their wide receiver room and they're like, we're going to run the ball more.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Like it feels like a waste to run the ball of tongue with those three wide receivers.


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[Assistant] Cover his offensive line. Long heralded as one of the best ever, but has it fallen off a cliff? Garrett will tell us next.


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[Assistant] So the Cowboys, I mean like Tyron Smith is still there. Tyler Smith, they drafted in the first round last year.


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[Assistant] Correct. It's like, yeah, like the dude from Wisconsin, uh, and then hall of famers, Zach Martin's there and, uh, and I guess Tara Steele is going to be, or Terrence Steele is going to be the right tackle. Is that what we're looking at right now? And like, do you


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[Assistant] You graduated, like, would you graduate high school in 2011? I don't even want to do the math because I'm going to get nauseous. But like the point being is that he is older. Zach Martin was drafted in 14.


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[Assistant] Dude, 2011, just to be clear, Tyron Smith, when he was drafted in 2011, that was my first year at CBS. I was covering, that was my first draft covering for CBS. That's how long ago it was.


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[Assistant] They're like fourth or fifth in the NFL in terms of longest drought of conference playoff appearances. That's our championship appearances. That's insane. It's like the lions of the Browns and the Jets or the Jets actually have one too. Yeah.


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[Assistant] The circumcising the mosquito thing actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it because it's like, I mean, obviously the, you know, the parts on a mosquito are not big because the mosquito is small. So it's like a really difficult exercise is what he's trying to say.


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[Assistant] The Eagles at minus one or five, given their success last year, like the, I mean, it's, it's Vegas is essentially saying this is a two horse race. Would you rather lay the juice, the light juice there with the Eagles or take the plus money of the Cowboys if you're betting on the division?


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[Assistant] In 1996, Jerry Jones, this is like, it's hard to find like actual evidence of this, but I think Michael Silver wrote a story about it. Jerry Jones swears that he prayed to


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[Assistant] That Prescott interesting over unders 4025 and a half passing yards and 26 and a half passing touchdowns. You're like the overly under knowing what we know about this offense.


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[Assistant] And I will say I put, I put 10 cents in the, uh, Brinson's Latest Jar, which now has $712 in it.


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[Assistant] What? No, I wasn't gonna, I wasn't, I wasn't gonna stay away from the Bengals in case any, I was gonna say really the entire Chiefs schedule. I mean, every single Chiefs game should be in prime time. Obviously Brady mentioned


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[Assistant] This Super Bowl rematch and he mentioned the AFC title game rematch with the Bengals. Uh, they also play the Bills. They also play the Dolphins. So we get Tyree Kill against the Chiefs and you know, Tyree Kill's gonna put up like


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[Assistant] 600 yards in that game, uh, but I'll go a little bit off the beaten path.


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[Assistant] Uh, too. I'll say Texans Panthers. Cause we could get to see CJ Stroud against Bryce Young. Number one versus number two. That does not happen very often. And then I'll also throw out.


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[Assistant] And then I didn't want to jump in right away, wait till you were done. But you said Jets Cowboys, that's almost what I was going to say for my other game, except it's Jets Eagles staying same division. Uh, I like Aaron Rodgers.


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[Assistant] Gonna face the defending NFC champions, and not only that,


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[Assistant] But the Jets have never beaten the Eagles. I mean, literally, the Jets have existed since the 60s, and they have never beaten the Philadelphia Eagles, whatever. They're, uh, 0 and 12 all time. So I think it is a little crazy that we have one NFL franchise that has never beaten another NFL franchise. You know, this isn't the Texans who


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[Assistant] This is a franchise that's been around for the entire Super Bowl era, and there is another team they haven't beaten. So Aaron Rodgers, uh, can maybe...


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[Assistant] As our commenter says, here comes the Katie Mox excuses, uh, for them.


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[Assistant] The thing about Belichick though is that he is literally, I think, 18 wins away from setting the all-time record for most wins by a coach in NFL history. There's no way he is willingly sitting down, uh, before that happens. That's regular season and playoff total. And so, you know, and it's hard to see,


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[Assistant] Robert Kraft firing him? I mean, Kraft does every off season, he gets a little crankier, like, hey man, I'm not happy with what happened last off season. This year, he's kind of calling out, uh, Matt Patricia and those other guys and basically telling Belichick to the media that you need to get rid of these guys and then Belichick got rid of them.


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[Assistant] So, you know, maybe after the season they talk about it, but there's no way in the world Belichick would have to go through the humiliation of getting fired.


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[Assistant] There are not many teams that could fall on either side of that. The Broncos are absolutely one of them because if Russell Wilson's terrible, they might only win four or five games. But if Sean Payton fixes him, that team feels like a wild card contender at the minimum and maybe a team that's contending for the AFC US title.


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[Assistant] The Bears were 0-6 in the division last year. Just to have a tough time seeing a team that won zero games in their own division, turning around and winning that same division.


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[Assistant] You know, the thing though is that it does seem slightly believable. I mean, Brady used the perfect word calling this just a bizarre situation.


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[Assistant] The last thing we need is our quarterback is a guy who literally has not played football for three years. That's actually a step back from what we have. And Dan Snyder is like, no, no, no, let's do this. This is who I want. Call him. I don't care if it's tampering. And for Earthsay, he does not get along with Dan Snyder. We saw this last October when he was saying, uh, at the owners meetings, Hey,


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[Assistant] There's definitely some merit to voting him out. He was only one chatting when, when Roger Goodell said, Hey, let's not talk about this out in the public.


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[Assistant] Uh, squawk it away, willing to say whatever he wants to about Snyder. And if that would be kind of Ursay's giant middle finger is getting the commanders to lose some draft picks because they tampered with luck. I'm sure Ursay would love to do that on Snyder's way out if he sells the team. So I mean, all of it's believable, but as you guys said, it doesn't really matter. Nothing's going to materialize.


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[Assistant] Likely no one gets punished. Andrew Luck's not returning to football. So it's all just a big, uh, fun headline. That's about it.


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[Assistant] To your point real quick though, that shouldn't he be free to sign with whoever he wants if he did want to return? Why does his contract toll?


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[Assistant] I will say in Lux case, it does make sense cause he got a like $25 million signing bonus and the Colts could have gone after that when he retired. But Jim Ursay was like, no man, you can keep the whole thing. So I do think that the Colts absolutely in this


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[Assistant] Who by the way, the Cardinals and Eagles play this year. So maybe that's one of the most must watch games that we should put on our list now that we have tampering Jonathan Gannon, uh, going against.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know what I'll say, uh, I'm glad that Brady mentioned all the poor Timmies and Susies out there will have their Christmases ruined, uh, because that kinda happened to me, uh,


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[Assistant] Let's see the very first fun fact, the very first regular season game ever played on Christmas came in 1989. It was the Bengals and the Vikings.


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[Assistant] And my parents sat us down on December 20th or something and said, Hey, we're doing Christmas. Santa's coming to our house early.


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[Assistant] Because daddy's gotta go play football on December 25th, and from there, you know, you can do the math in your head. And, right, Christmas was ruined from then on out because the Bengals played the Vikings on Christmas in 1989.


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[Assistant] I will watch all four games. If they put the Bengals on Christmas, I will do my best to go to the game. I want all the Christmas football that the NFL can throw at us. I have no issue with it. Uh, I do think the triple header is here to stay. Uh, and as our, uh, Christmas correspondent expert here,


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[Assistant] And then have them play on Wednesday. And so this is going to be the fourth year in a row that the NFL has played on Christmas. They have never played on Christmas.


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[Assistant] four years in a row. So it does seem like this is pretty built into the plan going forward. And as for the NBA, if I was in charge of that, I would have the season start the week before the Superbowl play games all week, not play that weekend, not play Superbowl Sunday and then


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[Assistant] Go with, but I do like the idea that Brady had of starting it way later. Just forget December, forget Christmas. You're not going to win that battle. Start when there's no NFL on the counter. People will watch the NBA over the Pro Bowl, but that's about the only football event that people, uh, won't watch compared to the NBA.


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[Assistant] It calls me Brinson sometimes, which is just weird, but I'll take it and go with it. And then two, the one thing I can promise you after midnight is that there will be a gigantic glass of red wine in my hand.


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[Assistant] It is, it is odd how, um, a lot of people, it's like, um, the older I get, the more wills I get though. Like Brady, you call me Will most of the time.


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[Assistant] It's like, oh, Roger just finally traded. It's like, well, I mean, we knew he's getting traded. It was always going to get done. Um, and I think it was important too, for the jets to, you know, bang this thing out before the draft, man, like, you know, like in the Packers as well, you know, you're getting that 1315 swap.


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[Assistant] That's fairly negligible. It's just two spots, but it still feels like a sticky. If I'm in the jet, I'm like, nah, I'm sorry. I'm too spiteful. That's, that's it. No, we're not. It's like, you're not going to get Rogers. You're going to go to the season with Zach Wilson based on holding up this deal between 13 and 15. Like, yeah, that's right. I'm not doing it.


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[Assistant] But like that's, that's one of those things that you couldn't be, you wouldn't be able to do after the draft because you couldn't say we're swapping 2024 first because you don't know where your team's going to end up after the seed.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like they, like the Packers got back a fifth and sent a sixth or something like that. It's like really?


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[Assistant] It was two years ago and it was like during the, was it, there was like a lot of buzz about him.


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[Assistant] Right. Oh no, it was Adam Schefter got on the, on ESP in the morning of the day of the draft and was like, Aaron Rodgers is demanding a trade. It was like,


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[Assistant] If you had to guess, like, alright, so next year's hacker, uhm, next year's Jets, uh, first round pick.


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[Assistant] Like, let's say Rogers plays 65% of the snaps.


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[Assistant] Um, and then we have, what are the picks again? Just run through it. So we have the number 13 that the jets are getting, which is three, three, six shout out to, or the Packers are getting, excuse me. Shout out to my home area code. Yeah, that's right.


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[Assistant] The 42nd overall, excuse me. So that's 142. I'm trying to figure out how, what the value of Aaron Rodgers is in this deal relative to the traffic.


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[Assistant] By the way, the, uh, would anybody like to guess what pick? Uh, and that's a great Seinfeld episode too. Um, also.


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[Assistant] Uh, I would say that Rogers has not been shy about being a little petty as well. He's like, you know, I am the greatest player in the franchise history and frankly be nice.


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[Assistant] The Packers and Rodgers are both being petty, and look, this happens a lot. They're both being petty about this separation and how it's going about. The Packers have a bunch of new guys in the front office who didn't draft Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers wants to be treated with the respect that, frankly, I agree with you. I think he deserves based on what he's done for the franchise and how long he's been there.


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[Assistant] And when you're exiting like that, there should be a big statement. It's like Aaron has done so much for this franchise. He ushered, he won a Superbowl. He went to a bunch of title games. He's ushered in an entirely new


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[Assistant] Era of Packers football post Brett Favre and we wouldn't be here if it weren't for Aaron Rodgers. And he does, is one of the greatest, but they do all of that. Like, do you don't like.


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[Assistant] Even the Patriots did it for Tom Brady. Belichick acquiesced to Tom Brady was like,


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[Assistant] Tom, Tom was a great player for several years here with the Patriots. Thank you, Tom. Like, sure, was it, could have been better? Yes.


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[Assistant] But, uh, it's the 25th overall pick from the Jets to the Packers next year. That's what we're, we're, uh, creating our hypothetical on. We're 230 points, the 13th overall pick 336, 42nd 142 and 207 were three points. This is according to the Rich Hill, the modern trade chart.


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[Assistant] 15th overall worth 315 points and 170 worth 8 points. The math that I did. What pick do you think that Aaron Rodgers is valued at for this current year's draft?


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[Assistant] Number nine, ninth overall, essentially because it becomes worth, he becomes worth 388 points and the number nine overall pick were 387. So I'll go back and look at the Jimmy Johnson trade chart just to see if there's a bigger discrepancy.


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[Assistant] To give up to, I don't, I don't feel like they value Aaron Rodgers with a ninth overall pick. Also Brady, you know, would you assume that given what they gave up for Aaron Rodgers?


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[Assistant] And the condition attached to next year's pick, would you assume that Aaron Rogers has said, I will play for at least a year and more?


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[Assistant] I mean, soft should be the number one draft pick from like, if you redid the draft.


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[Assistant] The condition for the pick is he has to play 65% of the time.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Jets, we said two to one. And then to me, I would say this. I mean, I just, I mean, I don't, I disagree with Brady in the sense that I think the bills are exceptional value right now.


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[Assistant] If I'm getting Buffalo plus money, I think they're a better overall team with a lot more cohesion.


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[Assistant] That being said, look, if Aaron Roger, the one thing that concerns you, the jets that never concern me about the Broncos is that, you know, Russ was banged up and maybe just washed up and Rogers who has looked washed up in the past five years, got so pissed off.


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[Assistant] So what is his spite level going to be to F you Green Bay while not playing for Green Bay? I feel like it's going to be fairly high and he's going to play really well next year. I would almost guarantee to add an offensive lineman at 15. Uh, is it project Jones? Is it Jones project? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Out of Georgia, yeah, like he's a guy that I think you could look at there at 15. And if they had an offensive lineman and they beef up the depth there.


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[Assistant] You've got the weapons, you've got Rogers with a playbook that he's going to know because of Nathaniel Hackett. We can make fun of the, the Denver experiment with Hackett all we want, but that's a, you know, the guy was the offensive coordinator when Rogers went to those two MVPs, the last two. So.


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[Assistant] The spike factor is the only thing that scares me. I was saying yesterday or the emergency podcast, if I were betting it, what I would do is bet the bills to win the division.


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[Assistant] And then I would bet the jets to make the playoffs at minus one 50, which you can also find on seizures. And so in other words, you bet maybe like two units on the jets to make the playoffs one on the bills. And if the jets do win the division, you'll have like a small profit. If the bills when the division, the jets still make the playoffs is a wild card. You hit both. And of course there's the.


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[Assistant] Fairly unlikely scenario where the Dolphins and Tua or the Pats and.


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[Assistant] Well, but again, like, I think you just have to see what the schedule is too. Like, you know, they could, they could draw and as breach noted yesterday, they're going to get five prime time games. Like they're going to get the absolute max.


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[Assistant] No, he's never, he's never, ironically the one year in which they expanded the voting to allow five, uh, first through fifth place, Russell Wilson sucked.


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[Assistant] We had this lengthy track record of Aaron Rodgers playing really well. He is older, but Russ was, Russ was really bad.


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[Assistant] At the end of his Seattle run, and he was hurt to that hand injury. We talked about it, Brady. When he came back from that, the initial hand injury, you noted you were like, look, and because Dak Prescott had the same thing, and we noticed it when Dak came back. Like, it's hard to grip the football. You're changing your mechanics. You are not. You don't trust yourself. All of these things. And then Russ, you know, I think


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[Assistant] The, he, not, Ross had carte blanche to do whatever the eff he wanted, but he was like, like he was, Nathaniel Hackett's giving him three plays and he's deciding which one he's going to call. They're just running this organization like a clown show. I'm not saying the Jets are this magical brilliant organization, but they won't be letting that happen. I wouldn't think.


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[Assistant] I would point out that the Broncos did have a substantial number of, uh, capabilities early in the season, which may or may not have something to do with that.


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[Assistant] I think eventually he went back to the wristband because they had so many delaying game penalties and it was just a huge, you know, the whole thing was an embarrassment.


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[Assistant] Uh, welcome to 2023 where literally every sports book, legal sports books, Caesars,


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[Assistant] Uh, redacted, redacted, whatever I'll say. Fandle Draft Kings, whoever does points bet now has like Will Levis like plus 350 to go number one overall, something like that. All these legal sports books panicked and moved Will Levis odds based on a smattering of bets that stem strictly from


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[Assistant] Uh, a Reddit user who posted it, it was like sale approved eight three four eight. He said.


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[Assistant] It's basically like a friend of a friend of a friend knows Will Levis. This is not actually what happened, by the way. This is a spoof that Billy's putting up on the screen, but we can read it. It's pretty funny.


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[Assistant] It's a fake quote from Will Levis. So don't, don't, it's a, yeah, I can explain this. That's my crazy cousin, Ronnie. I told him I was going to first overall cause he wagered $5,000 on it after getting drunk at the family function last weekend. Ronnie's a loose cannon. He threw mashed potatoes at grandma one time when he was nine, man. You just never know what Ronnie's going to do. Um, essentially this is what this guy wrote already. He was basically like,


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[Assistant] My buddies, he's like, I know, he's like, Will Levis is telling his family members that he's going to go first overall to the Panthers on Thursday night and the odds came crashing down. People freaked out all morning long and.


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[Assistant] I remember living in, I was living in Winston-Salem. I remember like somebody was like having a cook out of the house. It was your Chris Johnson was drafted first of all. And I was like having to cover the draft, but not like really like.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, like, it wasn't like, it wasn't like this. We weren't doing like a show or anything like that. You know, maybe a couple articles and everything, but just, it's like,


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[Assistant] The first round just happened just right onto the second. Uhm, and, and you know, now it is, there's so much emphasis. And I do think it's interesting too, if you, you know, not that the change is different, but like the emphasis that now is put on first round picks is so much greater because of


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[Assistant] The coverage that comes with the first round, like Thursday night is just the whole first round. And I think you have a lot of casual fans or even like, like big NFL fans who are not going to watch Friday night's draft coverage. You know, they'll check in and look at a, you have millions watching. Don't be wrong, but


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[Assistant] I have a lot of friends who are huge sports fans, huge football fans. They're not going to spend their Friday nights watching the NFL draft. They're going to watch the Thursday night. They're going to see the first round. The first round is so separated.


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[Assistant] Everything else, every other part of the draft and like so, like an unnecessary amount of emphasis is put on it. Like the 32nd overall pick or in this case, this year, the 31st overall pick.


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[Assistant] Is weighted a billion times heavier than the 30 usually 33rd now 32nd this year pick, even though we're talking about a one pick difference just because of the first round.


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[Assistant] I would just like to point out that I'm glad I was not a full blown full time NFL sports writer and like tweeter.


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[Assistant] And then we didn't have Twitter into that Twitter, like we, like we know it now in 2007 because like when Brady and I started working together and I was like, Oh, like Brady and I were buddies. And I was like,


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[Assistant] Oh crap, I gotta Google and make sure I didn't say anything bad about pretty. Like thank God, CBS, like if you Google breach, you can find some stuff that breach that where he called him like, like, I don't think he called you like a D bag, but he definitely called you like a couple of names that like inappropriate. I, however, only


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[Assistant] Yeah. But the point being is like, I am, I never wrote anything bad about you. And if I did,


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[Assistant] The uhm, I want to try and say this before the recycling truck dumps my like, makes a lot of, I'm sure it's my neighbors if you hear a bunch of glass clattering into the, into the thing.


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[Assistant] No, like the, the one thing you don't see with this Keyshawn thing that I think is worth noting is, and you can, you can kind of think about this from a golf standpoint, like this is 1996.


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[Assistant] Uhm, like when you think about the kind of pants that Keyshawn has with his suit, they are not, they are not like tailored and slim fit. They are like, it's like the baggy, like that's just what you had, depletes, baggy.


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[Assistant] I agreed it does not look as good in a suit. You can also see where the dress shirt, which has been custom fitted, has been rolled up at this point and the buttons are stretching there at the top. Now, however, if we think about Zeke Elliott at both Ohio State and with the Cowboys, this was his look.


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[Assistant] This is always been his look. That's how he rocked it at Ohio State. And so there's a little bit of, uh, one, I'm going to give him a little bit of, I agree with you. I don't like to look at myself, but I will give him credit for the fact that it is brand conscious and then two,


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[Assistant] He had the, the, the, the buttons done on the jacket so you couldn't see it. So it was actually a reveal. Haha. Surprise. Look, I'm showing off my abs and then buttons back. So it's not like he's walking around showing the abs the entire time at the draft. It just sort of a, a little flash.


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[Assistant] This is a, this is a, this is a friggin' redneck at his house and wherever the hell he's from, Hattiesburg, finding out, look, okay.


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[Assistant] The biggest giveaway of this, the fact that this is, uh, whenever, what year was it? 90, no, god, 91, there you go. So 1991, the biggest giveaway that this is a redneck gathering, and I can say that as someone from the south, isn't...


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[Assistant] And the best part is he didn't go that day. He went the next day cause he was a second round pick. So their shirts are terribly outdated. Um, that's like something you would get at Myrtle beach. Pure.


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[Assistant] Late eighties, early nineties, redneck, like, like I would give any amount of money to be able to see whatever is on Brett's little pin board back there. Cause I bet there's some, some fun stuff and then some weird stuff.


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[Assistant] Two years earlier, these, these guys aren't from the same place, by the way. Dion Sanders and, and, and Brett Favre. This is two years earlier. Uh, Dion Sanders with Andrea Kramer, who, uh, if you weren't sure it was 1989, her haircut will tell you.


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[Assistant] Deon, decked out and just coated in gold, incredible sunglasses, has just been picked, uh, you know, by, uh, this is when he was picked by the Falcons, right? Yea, he was picked by the Falcons, I think 7th overall, 5th overall, something like that. And, uh, look, Prime Time's got,


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[Assistant] It's actually a really, uh, uh, it's the, he, I don't know that as soon as his parents living room, he doesn't necessarily like.


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[Assistant] His vibe doesn't fit with the low key, like, uh, where, like Florida, wherever he is, uh, vibe that's going on there. But I guess Dion, I give Dion a 9.9 out of 10 because he is, looks incredible.


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[Assistant] Supporting Virginia Tech. The shooting had just happened there with the VT logo there. Uh, Brady, a philanthropic guy, of course, uh, to his core. But do you see the little things? They look like commas. That's like the ultimate lawyer tie.


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[Assistant] Only cause like someone who like, I understand, you know, you're, you're, you're coming out of college 2007, like a guy in Brady situation.


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[Assistant] There was this period of time where, you know, I mean, I would not even rightly or wrongly, just probably wrongly. If there was any kind of like drop whatsoever from where we thought a quarterback, a quarterback in particular might go in the draft, like it was,


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[Assistant] ESPN NFL Network, they've, they've really shied away from it. I think more now than like, like, like in, in that time period, it was like the only thing that anyone was talking about. Like I remember the Rogers when Rogers dropped and he dropped to 24, you went to 22. You're watching the draft. They're like, it's not so and so has been picked. It's like.


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[Assistant] This is like, will this team take Aaron Rodgers? And it's just like, that's the only talking point. It becomes just this bizarre microscope.


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[Assistant] That's a, that's a courtesy. That's a, that's a, that's a, I'm giving Brady a, that is such a,


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[Assistant] Well, and I can see it too, where you're like, okay, you know, I've got this custom suit. They gave it to me. You know, it's not my favorite. Like I think I look okay. And it looked fine when I put it on, but you're like, you know, you're not, you want to be like, if I'm, I want to be wearing the thing I'm most comfortable in and know it, you know what I mean? Like when I'm, I think if you did it in hindsight, you'd wear one of your other suits. Also, I do think there's something to the fact that like you slipped in the draft.


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[Assistant] That's just, that's just not true. It doesn't clash. Um, and I would say that at this point in my life, like I hadn't, I don't think I'd hosted, I don't think the Pixies podcast had started.


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[Assistant] I will retroactively, since I never graded you, give you a 4.4.


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[Assistant] Uh, little known prospect named Kyle Dugger out of Lenore Ryan University, which you would know if you're from North Carolina. At that time, most people probably didn't. It's like, like virtual draft in Belichick.


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[Assistant] Uh, non gambling edition, you know, Tre Lance going to the 49ers was a highly lucrative for yours truly. So that was fun. But I would say, I mean, honestly, my, my favorite NFL draft moment was probably in 2011 when, uh, it was my first, first NFL draft for CBS.


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[Assistant] And they flew us to New York and we covered the draft in Radio City Music Hall and my, at the time Carolina Panthers, a team that I actually liked at the time. I don't care about it now. No offense. The Panthers took Cam Newton with the first overall pick, which was just really cool. Like the very first.


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[Assistant] You know, the very first draft moment that I had working for CBS was watching the Panthers take


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[Assistant] I think like right after the Broncos took Brock Osweiler and I told Pete Prisco, Russ will be better than Brock. He's like, watch it! Sun Devils rule! Packed rules! Ha ha ha! Or something like that.


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[Assistant] You know, you, I mean, you fell in the first round and it took a while, but like you knew you were going to be drafted early in the draft. Like you were going to be a professional.


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[Assistant] NFL quarterback for him. It's like he like.


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[Assistant] How about you, Brianna? Yeah, I'll definitely be watching. I will definitely be watching. I'm really excited about the launch. Uhm, can't wait. I can't tell you how excited I am. Uhm, I just, I'm really excited for this. Yep.


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[Assistant] No chance, alright? Because the leagues are so far apart as far as strategy, it doesn't apply, okay? I will say this.


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[Assistant] Uh, some said this past year, and this wasn't like me saying this or our parents even saying this, even though they did, but like some of the officials who kind of ran the league,


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[Assistant] Uh, make sure to come up with a good practice plan, dividing up the field in the quadrants where the girls were learning a lot of fundamentals.


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[Assistant] Had this whole thing mapped out, uh, after the first game, you know, kind of reconvened and said, look, this is what we need to do moving forward. We implemented that. We were absolutely, we're all girls team in a boys and girls league, mostly boys teams.


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[Assistant] Uh, sometimes the best thing to do is just get in the way. Let the ball hit you. And then just don't cry. We'll figure out what to do after that. Okay?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you'll get the occasionally, and then I don't, so your daughter plays. Yeah, my son plays. I'm like, okay, good luck. It's game time, get out of my face. Uhm, and then honestly, when the game starts, I'm locked in. And there was a couple moments this year where I had to have like,


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[Assistant] I had to take a second. I was like, why do I care more than these five and six year old girls? Like what is going on right now?


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[Assistant] I don't know why I care so much, but I think it's cause I want the girls to care that much. And when they're six, you know, it's hard to get them to really be focused in on it, but I will say this.


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[Assistant] The girls that all improved, every single one of them improved mightily over the course of that season. Uh, my good buddy Jeff Darlington, his daughter played as well. Uhm, and, and I think those, they would, they would attest. All the girls improved.


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[Assistant] Uh, we won a lot of games. I think we only lost, uh, maybe two. And it was two, one team that they just had, I'll be honest. They had one big kid, he was a boy, and no one was stopping that dude. Alright, he was ripping shots from like 30 yards out and I was just like,


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[Assistant] And I'm like, okay, this kid's a little more advanced than where we're at right now. Um, so we'll just, we'll go ahead and take the L and we'll learn from this, you know, so a lot, a lot of, a lot of great lessons. We've probably spent way too much time on this topic.


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[Assistant] See, we didn't, we didn't celebrate when we were at score goals cause, you know, we act like you've been there before. We try to teach the girls good sportsmanship. And by the way, since I was only focused around the defense, I said, don't think for one minute.


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[Assistant] We go out there and we kick some ass. All right. And the girls know that and they may or may not have heard me say, let's kick some ass multiple times, which I had to refrain from at one point after one of the parents complained, but I digress. Mr. Quinn is not our job. All right. If the other team didn't show up prepared, we score goals, we stop goals, kick their ass.


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[Assistant] If it has to do with the fact that they signed Nelson Aguilar earlier, they drafted Baben what a year ago in the first round, and now you have Odell to go with Mark Andrews, again assuming Odell Beckham's healthy and he's able to be the Odell, you know, that we saw helping the Rams win a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] If that's what we're getting and it convinces Lamar Jackson to come back and whether it's play under the non exclusive franchise tag or even under like a lesser amount for the extension.


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[Assistant] Then yeah, like you go spend a little money over here with Odell Beckham, right? In order to be able to then entice Lamar Jackson to come back for an additional year and realize like, all right,


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[Assistant] Maybe I'm in a good situation with this organization. Maybe this is a good spot for me. I don't need to look anywhere else. Hell, those two party together down at South Beach after Odell's sign. I wouldn't be shocked if the Baltimore Ravens were the ones calling down to whatever club it was, picking up the tab. Most likely 11 or wherever, wherever they party that.


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[Assistant] But they were like, hey, it's uh, Steve Basciotti, just whatever those guys want, make sure you pay them and you tell them at the Baltimore Ravens are taking care of the tab. It would be some of the best money spent. Cause at the end of the day, if they can avoid paying 231 million.


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[Assistant] Fully guaranteed at signing, then that's a win because they get a guy who's been a former MVP to come back.


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[Assistant] Essentially on, on a discount. If we're using Deshaun Watson's deal as the market resetting quarterback contract that everyone should be trying to leapfrog, and it sounds like that's what Lamar wants, even though I don't know that any organization obviously wants their quarterback to be able to leapfrog that right now.


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[Assistant] Maybe like a nephew, right? He's like a guy you're close to, but not that. And then more of like,


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[Assistant] Well, the other thing about nephews are with like an uncle-nephew relationship, they have extreme impacts on them, but like a lot of times it can be like, alright, they don't really know you, they don't really know you, then you like, you dump like all your, your life details on them.


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[Assistant] I'm like, dude, uncle will is weird. Like I learned like way too much about him, right? Like that's more of like an ironic, like.


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[Assistant] That's why you always hear like, oh, the crazy uncle. It's like, why is he crazy? He just dumped a lot of stuff that I never knew about him until that one Christmas party when everyone got together at so and so's house. Like that's how it works.


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[Assistant] I digress because we're getting off track from the point of.


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[Assistant] This decision for Odell, I mean, is it as simple as saying, okay, you're paying me this much money? Uh, yep. I'm willing to go ahead and spend a year in Baltimore because I also feel like this is his last chance, right? Like this is that opportunity for him.


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[Assistant] With a quarterback that, to be quite honest, he hasn't finished the last two seasons. The passing numbers haven't looked quite as good as what they did in that MVP season. You do have a new offense too with Todd Monk in there. He likes to sling it around, but will they be able to adapt and do that? Will Lamar be able to adapt and do that?


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[Assistant] I think this is an interesting, you know, deal for Odell only because there's no doubt if he would have went to the Jets.


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[Assistant] Probably, you know, split in time was like the number one guy. Now with the Ravens, he's the number one wide receiver, and it's just, what are we expecting? Is it 65 sending receptions? Can he get to 100? You know, would they target him that much or even throw that much to be the case? I mean, has Lamar Jackson even thrown over 4,000 yards? I think he's done, I think he's thrown over 3,000 once in his career.


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[Assistant] So if you're Odell Beckham and you're going there on a one year deal.


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[Assistant] A lot of people might think, oh, it's like a one-year approval deal. Well, at this point in time in your career, every year is going to be a one-year approval deal. If you can't get a two, three-year deal from a team now, every single subsequent year after this is going to be a one-year approval year, depending on how this year goes.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think he's going to play, uhm, I don't know if he'll end up being under the tag or if he'll agree to a long-term extension. I mean, look, the draft may come and go and there might be another team that, that submits an offer sheet that the Baltimore Ravens have to agree to. We don't know yet. There's teams that said they aren't interested, but I just have a really hard time believing that you wouldn't take the time.


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[Assistant] To put in an offer, you don't have to give him the fully guaranteed contract that he's rumored to be looking for.


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[Assistant] You can reach out to them, have a conversation and make an offer. It's no different than if, if, like, people list their house all the time. That doesn't stop a buyer or potential buyer for coming in and saying, Hey, you want 600,000 for your house?


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[Assistant] I think it's worth 450. And I'm going to submit an offer. I know it's low, but look at the market right now. Go ahead and hold onto the house for another 10, 12 months.


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[Assistant] Well, I should say white right now, but after the draft, if they don't get what they're looking for, then take the time to see if you can't potentially get them, you know, get them for a more economical number.


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[Assistant] And it's not one of those like gimmicks either, where you know sometimes they give you like a diet pill and they're like, look how much weight I lost. They take the picture. What a lot of people go over. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a, I don't want to say it's a doctored pic.


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[Assistant] But what they do is they'll have them like basically blow up before they ever do anything. And so, and then they cut down to kind of like what they normally look like. That's usually how that ends up working. It's not like the other way around.


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[Assistant] So, uh, this is, this is awesome. I mean, it's great to see him looking the way he does. Uh, I spent some time with Russell. He's a really good dude. There's a lot of linemen too fall into this category. You know, Joe Thomas is absolutely shredded right now. Uh, he's, he falls in that category, but it just goes to show you like, this is probably how these guys are supposed to be walking around.


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[Assistant] And train a certain way and literally like eat beyond like comfort to be able to keep weight on or put weight on. And it might sound unhealthy to people. It really is. But the truth of the matter is that's the way they're able to maintain their position and be able to play at a high level. So good for him for losing the weight, breaking some of those habits.


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[Assistant] Okay, let me ask you guys this because I, I do always-


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[Assistant] Who the hell is that guy? Like why is this wide receiver talking about run blocking schemes, right? Uhm, do you feel that way? Like when you're watching an analyst on TV, they kinda need to look the part, like they gotta look a little bit like an offensive line or like they have played before?


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[Assistant] Gosh, he looks like a tight end. You know, maybe why he looks so, he looks so shredded, but good for him. I'd say it's a way healthier lifestyle. So I don't think we should penalize them for choosing the healthier lifestyle.


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[Assistant] Which they rebranded, now they're AG1. A lot of people like the flavor. They don't mind the taste with little water. So, I usually take that. Uhm, it's pretty good stuff.


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[Assistant] The best thing though about like people, not to go off on another tangent with this, but Katie should try, you might, you might like the flavor, but it's like people would get up in the morning and be like,


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[Assistant] You know, has he really gone away from what got him in trouble before or did he maybe venture back down that road a time or two where there might be some people out there? I know there was this lawsuit. I think there was rumor of a couple other pending lawsuits and more women who are potentially looking to file a lawsuit.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's, it's hard to know. I just, I think it reminds you, as we talked earlier about the Lamar Jackson situation, a quarterback who, look, if the Baltimore Ravens had signed Lamar Jackson to a 230 million fully guaranteed five-year deal, we would have been like, wow, that's unbelievable. But he's a former MVP, he's had a lot of success, makes sense.


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[Assistant] But that's, you know, kind of a risk, right, for the way he plays and injuries and all that.


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[Assistant] But then when you compare it to Deshaun Watson and not only what he hasn't accomplished yet, but then also the fact that what he had going on off the field, he wasn't even playing.


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[Assistant] And he was still able to sign that deal and he's still dealing with it. I mean, it's just, it really is incredible how and shocking how the Browns were able to sign a quarterback to this deal that


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[Assistant] I don't know, after how we looked last year, if there's not big improvements this year, I mean, I don't know how you justify the distraction, how you justify the signing, the compensation, any of it, if things don't turn up there in Cleveland after this year.


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[Assistant] You know, those contract negotiations, uhm, right? You know, and, or at least trying to massage those conversations so they work away from trying to get to, uhm, you know, not being close to that total guaranteed money. Eventually someone's gonna surpass it, but I also think it calls into question


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[Assistant] Uhm, the, the financial ability, right? The solvency of, of any owner to be able to pay out that sort of money, right? I mean, you've got to put that in escrow.


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[Assistant] And, and that's what I think ultimately the owners are trying to avoid in all of this is they don't want to have to tie up all that cash in an escrow account to make sure they've got it. You know, and maybe that's a rule that they look at changing the CBA as these values get higher and higher. Uh, or maybe that's where certain teams look to sell and they look to kind of cash out. I mean, I don't know what the Cincinnati bank was bought.


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[Assistant] Uh, this is, excuse me, the Brown family bought the Bangles 4.


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[Assistant] And I would imagine they're going to make a ridiculous return compared to what it was, but like that's their business. That's what that family does. So, um, you know, they've got to sign Joe bro to a contract where they might not be able to have the cash they need to.


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[Assistant] To equate to what he's looking for. Even though I think we'd all agree, Joe Burrow's what, a top three quarterback in the league? Right? It's Mahomes. It's Burrows. It's Burrows.


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[Assistant] You know, you look at Allen, you look at Herbert, I mean, all those guys you look at, you say, all right, those are like that, that next wave of guys. You feel really confident about being able to win you a Superbowl. So, um, it's, it will be interesting to see what happens.


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[Assistant] It's just a reminder again of this is something that will continually keep popping up based on how he, you know, conducts himself off the field. And if it does, the sad thing is too, is like, there wasn't really any like remediation. Like I know there was certain markets he had to hit in order to come back from his suspension, but we don't really know what that was.


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[Assistant] Is he like, driving by in, in West Palm Beach, like organs of Asia, and like, is he like, it's like they're testing him to see if he'll, you know, follow suit for, you know, one of the, you know, potential owners of, uh, one of the NFL teams.


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[Assistant] I'm not trying to think of the word you're looking for. I was just trying to come up with unique scenarios where I thought maybe, you know.


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[Assistant] They were just testing them, you know, like, let's just drive by this place and see if, you know, it's a potential issue for them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, that's where this is headed, right? I mean, I just, I wish I could fast forward, move along. This is an organization that's got a fan base that is like dying for them to go back to the glory days and


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[Assistant] I think they're going to be capable of, depending on who the new owners are, uh, because they've already tried to at least.


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[Assistant] Organizationally bringing some really good people there to turn some things around. You know, you gotta love Ron Rivera. He's a great man. He's a good leader. He does things the right way. Jason Wright, who's within that front office too, is a part of that. He's one of those people that does everything the right way.


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[Assistant] Technically not been as involved because of a lot of the issues that Washington was under.


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[Assistant] The reality is you're still owner and so until he moves on, they really can't get out from under this dark cloud. And I think this like settlement is kind of cleaning some things up on the books to make sure everything's clean.


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[Assistant] Done, figured out, they got a clean slate moving forward.


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[Assistant] And then, and better yet, like as they started going through and searching through the various names, they like didn't realize, oh, some of these are already what, trademarked or copyrighted, will you know better not.


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[Assistant] He'll just pivot. He'll just, he'll find out, you know, they're the commanders, you know, some people are 40 and slips call them the commandos, whatever it is, but I just.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you'd have to think so, right? I mean, that settlement's not being paid by the next ownership group. You know, they haven't, uh, put down any money, at least to this point. Uh, and you, you got three bidders. Again, you got the guy with the long name Canada. You've got the Josh Harris group and you've got, you know,


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[Assistant] If Bezos gets involved, that's where the value I think really skyrockets. Uhm, not only do you have three potential bidders, but he's got the deepest pockets of anyone.


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[Assistant] You know, clearly he's the type of guy that likes to, uh, you know, buy things, build things, show them off. All right. I'm not sure if you've seen his rocket, but, uh, he's the type that is not embarrassed whatsoever about showing you his rocket. So, um, I'm sure he'd love to buy the Washington commanders and he'd love to show that team off too. Are you talking about Dezos?


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[Assistant] I mean, just, okay, here, Billy, bring up a picture of Jeff Bezos and their, their little shuttle, their rocket, and you can, you know, discern what you want.


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[Assistant] You know, laws made, you can figure out ways, if you own Amazon, of lobbying and bringing some folks over to some football games. I mean, it, it all works hand in hand. I just don't know if Dan Snyder wants to sell to Jeff Bezos. I don't think so. Yeah, and he probably won't knowing Dan Snyder. So you still have a market, you got two other potential bidders. It's going to go for at least six. We know that.


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[Assistant] Maybe when it's all said and done a little bit more, uh, and I think there's a ton of potential there, uh, given the DC area, the media market and all that, so.


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[Assistant] Wait first off, let me just say this, you know, you had a shuttle that was on top of a bunch of like, literally rockets, right? Like that was the whole NASA shuttle, all of a sudden that got discontinued. But like, that was like a normal aircraft on rockets that would be thrusted up in the air.


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[Assistant] Basically after SpaceX comes out with their model, basis is like, wait a second. You can't allow Elon Musk to come up with his rocket and I can't show you what I can make in my rocket. So there you go. You got blue origin. There's Bezos rocket.


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[Assistant] Okay, before I answer that, I'm going to pose a question to you two, alright? And Katie, you start.


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[Assistant] Are there really six teams interested? Like I was trying to kind of do the math on this because you're assuming that you're talking to six teams who might be trading up for a quarterback.


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[Assistant] And I think that's, if you use the Jimmy Johnson draft chart, right, for people out there who don't know, they associate a value with every single pick in the draft.


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[Assistant] So if you're moving from 11 to 3, okay, 3 would be worth 2200 points. The 11th overall pick is worth 1250 points. And so, you know, that difference of 950, right? Uhm, you've got to figure out how you can make that work.


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[Assistant] The charts, it's just a baseline. Everyone has their own chart. Everyone has their own value. What I was going to get at before you so rudely cut me off. Well, like you always do. Um, San Francisco went from what? 12 to three to get Trey Lance. Katie, you know this and they give up ridiculous draft capital in order to get him. So.


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[Assistant] We can talk about whatever the draft chart says and we can do, go that route. The truth of the matter is when a team knows you're trading up to take a quarterback.


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[Assistant] They're gonna fleece you, okay? Like they're gonna say, nope, not enough, not enough. We need a little bit more on there. Just like the San Francisco 49ers gave up for Trey Lance, Katie Mox, what say you?


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[Assistant] Not feeling great about it. Either way, I think like who's...


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[Assistant] Will likes Tennessee. Uhm, I personally feel like if you're indie, you've got to trade up.


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[Assistant] Because you can't allow the potential of someone else to do it. It's not going to cost you that much, um, in, in draft capital to do so. And if you are between Anthony Richardson and Will Levis, uh, or maybe Hen and Hooker, you know, we don't know how they're, they're evaluating the quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] But let's say you're between those three. Once you want to make sure you get that guy, if you're Jim Ursay, I mean, once you want to make sure since year and year out, you know, your veteran quarterback route hasn't really worked. And if you want to go back to the draft where they've been successful at drafting quarterbacks and those guys have been the right picks, once you want to get your guy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, well, yeaah, for the first thing is, a lot of people are probably curious as to why he's decided to come back. I mean, we have to remember, he was going to be the play caller, I believe back when Clay Heldman was still the head coach. Uhm, and so that was already on the table before the Arizona Cardinals offered him the head coach.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was given it. I don't even know that he spent much time there before he ended up taking it, but uhm.


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[Assistant] I think he, look, he's got a relationship with Lincoln Riley. It makes a lot of sense from that standpoint. Uh, in a senior offensive analyst role, he can be evolved to a degree, but not too involved.


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[Assistant] Uh, and that way it also allows him to keep whatever money is that he's owed, uh, as far as the offsets go, cause he's not actually coaching, which I'm sure was outlined in the contract. So I believe it was initially reported like he was going to be a quarterbacks coach. And then that got walked back as they realized like, Oh, wait a second. He's not going to be able to earn all the money he's making.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, he can be an analyst. USC doesn't have to pay him much, if anything, uhm, probably based on those offsets within his contract, his former contract with the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] And he could still be involved around the game, be around one of the better offensive minds.


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[Assistant] And I'll be quite honest, uhm, if you are a team and you are interested in bringing on a young offensive minded head coach,


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, would she think that Lincoln Riley would be one of those guys you'd look at? I mean, let's say for example, you want to move on from, you know, whatever head coach is there, you're probably not having a good year. You're probably one of the drafting at the top of the draft.


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[Assistant] Hey, Will, who's draft eligible next year that might be the best quarterback in college football?


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[Assistant] So maybe you would think that you could go for both Lincoln Riley as your head coach and Caleb Williams with whatever team it ends up being that ends up having the worst year, ends up being in a position to take Caleb Williams number one overall. So you kind of run back the idea that Arizona had.


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[Assistant] Which looked good for the first three years until really year four. And by the way, Kendall Williams and Callum Murray are two completely different prospects. So I'm going to get into that.


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[Assistant] But you could present that scenario. And so if you're Cliff Kingsbury, you're looking at like, yeah, this ain't so bad. Like I'm a good looking dude in Southern California with a ton of money. I'm going to go ahead and hang out for a year and we'll see how this whole thing plays out. And if Lincoln leaves, take a head coaching job.


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[Assistant] Guess who's gonna be a guy who wants to interview for the head coaching job at USC? And guess who I could probably woo over with my Ryan Gosling good looks to hire him?


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[Assistant] He could probably re-emerge, I think, as a position coach, maybe play a caller.


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[Assistant] It depends on what he wants. You know, I think ultimately after being a head coach in the NFL, it's probably hard to go, uhm,


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[Assistant] It wouldn't be hard to go back. I mean, they did have a certain level of success, but the problem is he's got to kind of reinvent himself. Cause I think people look at the fact that he didn't win at Texas Tech.


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[Assistant] Uh, d-despite of not acknowledging the fact that he recruited a lot of really good quarterbacks, right? I mean, during his time at A&M, he recruited Kyle Murray. During his time at, uh, Texas Tech, he did get Baker Mayfield to come there before he transferred to Oklahoma. Patrick Holmes was there. Davis Webb, who got drafted. I mean, you can go through the list.


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[Assistant] So uhm, he's got a great eye for talent and I think developing quarterbacks, he has a good offensive mind.


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[Assistant] It just comes down to what ultimately he wants to do. You know, some coaches, they become a head coach. They like having the control. Some don't. Some would rather just call plays and not have to worry about all the other BS that comes along with being a head coach.


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[Assistant] Offensive minded head coaches. I mean, look, Josh McDaniels gets the second shot.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, the thing about it, John Fox went to a Super Bowl. Uh, who was the first one you mentioned?


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[Assistant] I mean, look, and again, there's different elements of it. Like I was going to say, if I'm him personally, like I would want to take every dime that I could from them before taking another opportunity. If you could still stay involved with the game in part because you know, you had everything on the right track and then you get your best player getting a PED suspension. He's gotten the first six games.


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[Assistant] You've got an injury to a number of key pieces. Uhm, I mean, you can go on down the line of decisions that were made that he might not have agreed to in regards to the roster.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, letting a guy like Chandler Jones go. I just, you know, I think there's a lot of things that might have played a role in their lack of success.


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[Assistant] Uh, offensively speaking, you know, they, they'll put up some good numbers. They get some good things. And I think there are some limitations that Kyle Murray has based on his size with what you have to do with the offense. And I think he was trying to cater to those things.


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[Assistant] Will you watch? A lot of people are like out on the NBA or they're not as enticed to watch some of these games. I actually think this is appointment television.


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[Assistant] I mean, LeBlanc at this time of his career, obviously coming back from an injury, this retooled Lakers team, they have a shot. Like they played so much, such better basketball than they did the first half of the season.


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[Assistant] And it is interesting too, like that was a LeBron built team and then like Polinka comes over, he's like, no, we're going to make all these moves. LeBron gets injured. He's out for a while. And that's like, oh, wait a second. This team's really coming together.


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[Assistant] I mean, would you rather look like Rob Lowe or Ryan Gosling?


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[Assistant] We saw what happened there at Augusta, you're out. Uh, there's also like Jimmy Dunn, uh, a friend of mine, he probably would never ever have me back to Augusta or Seminole or anywhere else for that matter. So there is no amount of money that you can pay me.


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[Assistant] Like choke you out, we make it choke you out, put you to sleep just so Jack could hit off his ceremonial tee shot.


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[Assistant] What's that? Have you played it yet? I've not played it yet, but uhm, yeaah, I'm hoping, hoping to one day.


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[Assistant] You know why though? I mean, first off, there's a chance, which is great for you, but you know, I think you would be like Katie too. Do you play golf, Katie?


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[Assistant] Okay, then this is how I turn this around. Like what's your favorite hobby? What do you like to do?


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[Assistant] That would be like, if you're not passionate about, you can't take someone on a trip like that that's not passionate about it. That would be like me, like Katie, I have the best tickets. All right.


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[Assistant] We gotta go, we're gonna have to go to a, uhm, I guess I'm gonna try to think, uh, would be your biggest rival. I have to be a division rival. I guess I'll say the Seahawks. Is that fair? Is that who you probably hate the most in division?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're gonna go see a Seahawks vs the Rams game and we're sitting right there on the field. You'd be like, yeah, I don't want no part of that, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're gonna beat you with some nine irons. Uhm, when I was in, uh, either high school or college, uh, one of my buddies was a big Ernie Els fan, and he really was like more of a friend of my friends, so he wasn't like that close. And so we were following around Ernie Els, right? Beautiful swing, they call him the big easy because he just makes it look so easy when he swings and crushes the ball.


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[Assistant] But he kept kinda, I mean, he was hammered strong and he kept being like, you know, come on now, big easy, let's go big easy. And after like two or three holes, which he went like bogey, bogey par, um, and missed like a really easy birdie putt.


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[Assistant] You see Earl, Ernie Els look back to his caddy and he says something to his caddy. Caddy says something to one of the officials. They look over to like our group of guys and, and they're like, and they obviously knew who is like kind of rooting them on and sharing for them.


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[Assistant] I just slowly started to back up, like I've been like that person my entire life. And that was it. Like he got escorted out. He was done. And I was thinking that that's how they handled like a guy being actually like Rudy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was like his drunk best friend following him around on a golf course. He's like, all right, you've had too many drinks, like go home, we'll see you after the round. Uh, but he didn't know him. He was just a big fan and that, that apparently ticked off Ernie Els.


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[Assistant] I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Tyler Sullivan. This is day three of the 2023 free agency show. Join us all week long as we break down the chaos and while you're at it, show the show some


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[Assistant] Love. If you're on YouTube, smash that like button, comment and subscribe for our audio only listeners. Make sure that you download, follow, leave a review and please tell your friends what's up to watch and listen to the pod. Princeton and Sully, nice to see you again for the second time today.


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[Assistant] We should have, uh, no champagne. We uh, we missed the fun here.


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[Assistant] I think he did well. Yeah, I think he did really well last year and I also think that he's a big locker room guy. I think he's got a lot of respect from the people that he plays with and is a really good leader so you always want that.


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[Assistant] With your team, but Sully, I gotta go from one Jacoby to the next. Jacoby Myers out.


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[Assistant] Juju is in. Patriots give a three year, $33 million deal, a very big investment as the resident Pats fan. How you feeling?


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[Assistant] Alright guys, let's, uh, pivot. Keep it in the AFC East. Talk about the bills, which we haven't really talked about actually all week long. You got Jordan Poyer, who checked the market and seems like he's going to re-sign with the bills. Uh, Bill's Mafia probably excited about this one. You guys consider this a win?


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[Assistant] At what point do we give up on the bills as being a real powerhouse that's gonna win?


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[Assistant] But are you, would you put money on a futures ticket for them? I mean, they've been the favorite. They're not the favorite this year. They're the second favorite for the cons, uh, for the conference behind the Chiefs, but they've been the odds on favorite two years in a row.


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[Assistant] I agree with you on that one. Okay, this one really surprised me. I don't know why it surprised me and I wish that we had a BQ on the show today. Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] To Tampa Bay, signed a one year deal, $8.5 million, giving him the opportunity to battle for the starting spot with Kyle Trask.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well Justice in the chat says, NFC South is still maybe the worst division. Tampa could easily sneak into the playoffs. They just needed somebody to effectively throw the ball. Brady wasn't that last year. Can we really blame that on Tom Brady?


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[Assistant] We talked about yesterday how the NFC East was just like an overall winner and the Eagles did something I found to be a little bit shocking. They're releasing.


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[Assistant] Pro Bowl cornerback Darius Slay after three years. And I really just want to know what Billy thinks about this first.


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[Assistant] As a 49ers fan, the fact that the last, the last play that he played as a cowboy.


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[Assistant] Was in the divisional round where they bizarrely put him at center and he was absolutely level. Who was it? Was it Fred Warner? Who got him?


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[Assistant] Alright, so where do you guys think that Zeke goes? I mean, obviously we talked about how the Bucks, uh, couldn't run the ball. Is that a good spot for him?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Billy in the chat spamming, bring him to the birds. Well, speaking of spiteful, there's no one more spiteful than Aaron Rodgers. And we definitely already had a show about this today, our emergency pod. But Aaron Rodgers told the Pat McAfee show that he intends to play for the Jets and the teams just need to work out compensation.


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[Assistant] We've had a couple hours to digest this info. Any other thoughts that you have about this? And are either the Packers or the Jets winners or losers in this scenario?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree with you. What do you, what do you think of Jordan love though? Cause now it's, now it's Jordan love time and we've seen him just very, very shortly if, uh, Aaron Rodgers was injured.


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[Assistant] Do you think he is the guy? Do you think that it was kind of worth all of this drama that has ensued ever since they drafted him?


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pick 6 podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Tyler Sullivan. This is day three of 2023 free agency. Make sure you join us all week long to keep up to date with free agent signings and also show the pod some love. Smash that like button, comment, and of course subscribe on our YouTube page.


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[Assistant] Okay guys, we only have like five more minutes here. Any other winners or losers or news from day three that we should discuss?


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[Assistant] The rookie class coming in, there's a lot of good running backs, so there's a lot of competition coming out.