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[Assistant] You know, they don't, they don't want to do the work for the Ravens and then look like idiots when, you know, that deal doesn't come through. Whereas, you know, when you think about the, you know, the fact that he's now requested a trade, when these teams go and put an offer sheet in front of Lamar, again, as I pointed out, like the Ravens have a different calculus now, they have to say, okay, if we match this offer sheet,


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[Assistant] One, we lose two first round picks and like, so who's the team that's offering the picks? Is it Indianapolis? Cause they have the fourth pick. Like that's a really good spot. You could just draft another quarterback there. Now he might not be as good as Lamar, but you have the chance that he could be a high level quarterback and you get the other first round pick. Um, and then the question is like,


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[Assistant] Okay, if we don't do that and we sign the, we match the offer sheet, we lose the two first round picks and.


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[Assistant] Do we have a quarterback who is unhappy because we brought, we kept him in the fold?


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's almost like a long-term franchise tag in that sense.


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[Assistant] The fact that he is publicly stating, I requested a trade just changes everything, I think.


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[Assistant] The culture really interesting, especially when you think about like Shane Steichen, Fasting that Offense in Philadelphia where, you know, Jalen Hurts, I mean, obviously it's uhm.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's Nixie Riani's offense, but Stanky can certainly can, can, you know, run something similar in his offensive coordinator there. Um, and you know, you think about all the, the, the design runs for Jalen Hurts. Now two different dudes, right? Like Jalen Hurts has built completely differently, complete different


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[Assistant] You know, like you can, you can re- you can re-imagine, like you don't have to do as many power runs, right? You could have Lamar doing stuff that gets him on the edge, like he's gonna get to the...


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[Assistant] He's going to get around the, you know, around the edge like faster than Jalen Hurts is because he's freaking light and quick and he gets in the open field. He can destroy anybody. He's one of the fastest, maybe arguably the greatest running quarterback in NFL history already. Um, and so convenient graphic popping up on YouTube, by the way. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I saw Billy put it up, I thought I'd sneak that line in there. Uhm, but, you know, like if you, if the Colts got him, he would have worked him on offense. And you could make the case easily, I think Josh, that


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[Assistant] If you have Lamar, like is Lamar Jackson better than whatever quarterback you're getting it for?


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[Assistant] And then whatever draft pick you're getting if you have Lamar for a season because you know that second first round pick you're going to give away will come after if you've had Lamar for a year.


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[Assistant] So in theory, Lamar is going to give you a good season in 2023.


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[Assistant] You're a playoff caliber team. Uh, Victor in the, in the chat points out, you know, bet the closer win the division. Pretty good, pretty good look. I agree. Like if you're getting, you're getting good plus money cause Jacksonville's minus 150.


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[Assistant] Like, if you're indie and you trade, like, I could see a situation where Chris Ballard can, like, Jim Urshay is clearly...


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[Assistant] Lamar might not be my, like the number one guy would pick, you know, Pickmahalms or Josh Allen, whatever you want to do, but you're like, man, I can get a sure fire thing at quarterback.


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[Assistant] You could definitely talk to mercy to give away those picks and getting Lamar and you would know that you would be good in 2023 if Lamar plays 17 games because of that offense, because of your weapons, because of everything you have there with that offensive line, Jonathan Taylor. I mean, that's it. It's a fun, it's a fun idea to imagine. And if you're good in 2023, you're very likely not to get fired.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, I was going to say Atlanta. I think Seattle has Juno Smith, so you can't really do that.


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[Assistant] I think to me, Washington, Indiana, Atlanta, because I'm going to do something for social media afterwards, you know, for the YouTube shorts and like.


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[Assistant] Give me three, first three teams I thought of, Colts, Falcons, Commanders. Especially with the Commanders, you're Dan Snyder and you're like, you could like legitimately, I can't believe I'm going to say this phrase, but like, leave a lasting legacy with the team before you sell them.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying like, if you're the insider and you're just going to sell the team, go get Lamar and then sell the team. And it's like.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And the thing about Tennessee is, you know,


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[Assistant] It's a weird situation because remember Mike Ravel ousted John Robinson essentially after the AJ Brown, the AJ Brown traded us off season and then AJ Brown went for like


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[Assistant] And that's when John Robinson, you know, really backfired on him and he was sort of running out of town. And so now Vrabel is, it's, you know, like, you know, they have a new GM, but Vrabel is basically in charge, I think, in running this roster. And.


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[Assistant] It, it's like with every, all the moves they make, you look at their offensive depth chart and it's hard to, it's hard to talk yourself into them being any good. Unless, unless Henry goes just bananas and uhm, you know, these receiver, these younger receivers take like a big step forward.


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[Assistant] You can't possibly believe that anybody's confident in what Malik Willis can bring to the table moving forward. So yeah, they make total sense as a team that could jump in on a quarterback.


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[Assistant] It's like, it's like when uhm, I don't know why I'm doing like a valley girl impersonation at this point, but uhm, it's way too old to be doing that, but other than that, uhm, I think there's like, you've gotta like,


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[Assistant] Like, you know, if you think about when teams are interested, like when teams are actually interested in quarterbacks in the draft and they don't have the number one overall pick.


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[Assistant] Cause they didn't want him to get on anybody's radar, right? And it's, it's just in the NBA, it happens in every sport. You don't want to, you don't, you don't want to show your hand.


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[Assistant] So like the Seahawks taking, I mean, I guess if you take a picture with everybody.


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[Assistant] Then you're just sort of playing games. I think, I tend to think that they might not take a quarterback with that first pick.


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[Assistant] You know, the, the other team that could like conceivably do it, and I'd be curious what you think about this Josh, but like Houston.


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[Assistant] Like if you're Houston, you've kind of cobbled together a decent defensive, like a decent offseason with the defense. You've got, you know, some, some pieces on.


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[Assistant] Offense, like in terms of the offensive line and the running backs, they don't have a whole lot in the receiving courts, a bunch of younger guys. But if you're operating with this, you know, and I don't know if that's what D'Amico Ryan wants to do, but like if you're operating with this Lamar Jackson offense, you don't necessarily need these, you know, great wide receivers. Would you give the second and the 12th pick overall for Lamar? I don't know if I would.


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[Assistant] Right, I mean, I don't know why I'm looking to take this, cause I'm like scared, like I'll look at like the wrong draft order if I look at a mock draft. I mean, if you give up 13 and you get Lamar,


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[Assistant] You know, like, like, it's not really how our offense works. It's like, well, then maybe your offense isn't good enough if it won't work with Lamar.


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[Assistant] Unless it's like Titans with Lamar, Derek Henry, Richard Reed, my God.


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[Assistant] New England drafted Sony Michelle over Lamar, they could have drafted Lamar Jackson. They should have took Sony Michelle over Lamar, which Bill doesn't get enough Belichick doesn't get enough crap for it.


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[Assistant] As you should be. I mean, you know, took over for like, Jimmy G's gone. He's gone. It's over.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's, he's with the Raiders. Like this isn't like a Jimmy G's on the practice field and maybe we'll make it work type of deal. It's Jesus. He's Adios Amigos. Uhm, or Adios Casamigos. I already wrote a call if you're Jimmy G pounded.


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[Assistant] You know, what we wanted a franchise quarterback, but Brock Purdy.


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[Assistant] And after you talk with Kyle Shanahan, you're like, look, he's like, Brock is.


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[Assistant] Great for this offense. That's why we took a flyer on him late. The other thing is like, when you do that, you send a message to Trey Lance, like, Hey,


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[Assistant] Yeah, they had a whole lot of opportunity. It was nasty when you were in Chicago in week one, you got hurt in week two and Jimmy G took over. But like, I think putting, saying Brock, this is your team. One, you're like,


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[Assistant] You don't, you, Brock is not going to rush back from injury. You know, you don't want that. You want him to do the natural progression. And then two, Trey Lance is now going to say, all right,


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[Assistant] Like I have to earn this. I have to, I have to win this job back. It's gotta be gifted to me. I think that it's a smart move by Lynch to do that.


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[Assistant] I'm like, you know, when you're doing the first match or after like very much into like, all right, where are these quarterbacks actually going to slot? It does feel like.


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[Assistant] And you see the quality of quarterback play from, you know, these three guys. And so like CJ Stroud and Breyshjong, I mean, I think Peter King wrote about, they said Breyshjong, uhm,


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[Assistant] And, and so you have that like, like Bryce Young and CJ Stroud feel like stone cold locks to go in the top five, given the teams that we have involved up there. And then it's like, Will Levis, I think.


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[Assistant] Even though the short and intermediate passes were a concern with how he, and you were there, right Josh? I mean like, it was definitely, his like, it's almost like he wants to.


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[Assistant] Take a shot on this guy as a possible just monster with, you know, upside monster. So I think just the idea of like.


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[Assistant] Just, just the way it's set up with the teams and the needs and the, and the, you know, where the teams are who need quarterbacks and the supply and demand.


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[Assistant] You know, the Cardinals at three who probably are going to trade out of that spot if somebody wants a quarterback and they don't level Anderson like that. It's just, it feels like these quarterbacks are, are almost like stone cold locked at the top of this draft.


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[Assistant] Did you have Breezy on there? I was gonna say, because uh, Brian Breezy for Clemson, the pastor's, or like he, was he?


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[Assistant] He had, didn't he, uh, was it, did his sister pass? He had a really emotional, he had like injuries and all feeling, you know, like his sister died in the middle of the season, like a very emotional situation and, but this is a guy that like,


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[Assistant] So they don't all work out. I mean, but like you got the Christian Wilkins type. I mean, there, there are a lot of guys coming from that venable style. And I know he's in Oklahoma now, but, um, this is a guy who I think.


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[Assistant] Really, really helped himself in terms of his pro day and how he looked at that Clemson and how he performed at Clemson's pro day.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And the other thing too, when you, you know, when you talk about Josh Allen is like, you had the situation in Buffalo where.


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[Assistant] The Bills, you know, when Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean took over, and it's like, all right, the Bills gotta find a quarterback. They gotta get a quarterback. Well, it's like, no. And the Sam Darnold issue, when you think about the Jets, was like, we'll just draft Sam Darnold and it'll just work out because he's a quarterback. It's like, no. If you're going to draft a quarterback that high, if you're going to take a quarterback with the top 10 pick or top 15 pick, like Josh Allen, like Sam Darnold, like anybody, Baker, I mean, whoever you want. C.J. Stroud, Bryce Young, Lil Levis.


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[Assistant] But you have to make sure that the infrastructure around the quarterback is set up in a way that is going to allow him to succeed, right? So.


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[Assistant] You need to have invested something in the weapons before you get the quarterback and you need to invest it in the coaching and have somebody who you know, you can trust, who can develop the quarterback. That's why, and again, like I was on David Damischek's podcast, the MyStreetPod, people should check it out. It's a good episode, uh, last week, but like the, like the chiefs drafted Patrick Mahomes and they had the weapons, Travis Kelsey, Tyree Kill,


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[Assistant] They had the coaching, Andy Reed. They had an offensive line in place. They had a quarterback who they knew they could start for a year before they forced Mahomes out on the field because he probably wasn't ready in week one to go out on the field.


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[Assistant] Whereas, you look at the Bears, and they drafted Mitchell Trubisky in the same draft. They didn't have the coaching, because they had John Fox in a lame duck here. They didn't have any offensive line. There were no weapons there, even though they, you know, got Allen Robinson, and they forced Trubisky out too early, because even though they'd signed Mike Glenn in free agency, it's like,


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[Assistant] You know, you, you put Trubisky in Kansas City instead of Chicago, and he's probably a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback who's still in Kansas City. Like that's just coaching and infrastructure and all that stuff matters a ton.


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[Assistant] I think that, I think Carolina is a, uhm, is a great call.


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[Assistant] You know, as much as like CJ Trout and Bryce Young feel a little bit safer. I mean David Tepper is a guy who, you know, he built his fortune.


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[Assistant] You know, being a, uh, you know, a hedge, you know, hedge fund manager, but he also like, he would go after distressed assets and then turn them around. And so it's like, I'm not saying Levis is distressed. It's just like.


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[Assistant] Right? Maybe you're not thinking like, all right, like he wants to win now, but I also think he's like, what if we get our Josh Allen and now trade now trading up to number one and then.


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[Assistant] Drafting Will Levis would certainly be a polarizing decision, but I don't think it's off the table at all.


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[Assistant] Decided who I'm going to have Carolina taking it one. I, you know, like sort of annoying. I understand that.


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[Assistant] We're comfortable with 7th quarterbacks in this draft class. Shut up. You're not comfortable with 7th quarterbacks in this draft class. Don't be ridiculous. Now, maybe you're comfortable with 2.


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[Assistant] So I just don't believe that, like, I can, okay, I can believe that they're like, alright, we're, if we have to right now, like, if it's like, like, the draft starts right now, we have 15 minutes, we'll just take, we'll take Bryce Young, we'll be, we'll be fine with that.


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[Assistant] Cause it would have been cheaper and you would still have like DJ more. We'd still have an extra second round pick.


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[Assistant] If you're not comfortable with three guys and you have, if you have one guy you want, I think David Tepper likes the attention, likes having the fact that people are talking about this franchise. Um, who'd you, who do you have them taken in your most recent one, Josh?


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[Assistant] Baker, it's like, you can read the tweet where it's like, okay, he knows it's Baker and it's going to be Baker and it's like, welp.


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[Assistant] Get out your hammers, cause we are smashing Baker to go from a two to one to 20 to one, whatever you can find. And like, I think that the other thing too is that the NFL.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the NFL is in constant, like the owners meetings are happening right now, right? All these are all the owners, all the coaches, all the GMs are in Arizona.


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[Assistant] You know, Roger Goodell is there. He'll do a state of the union later today where he won't say anything. Um, might be happening right now for Linda, but the point being is they're all talking, right?


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[Assistant] The NFL tells the team with the number one of our pick, like whatever you do, don't, you don't let anybody know who you're taking.


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[Assistant] Welcome everybody to the Pick 6 podcast, CBS Sports Daily NFL podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Chris Trapaso and today


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[Assistant] We are going through the NFL draft groups through song.


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[Assistant] Little bit of like maybe an American Idol vibe. I don't know. I don't know if anyone's gonna sing here. I hope so. We're gonna break those down. If you are watching on YouTube, make sure that you smash that like button, you follow, you leave a comment, do everything that you need to do. Same for the audio. And stay tuned with us all week long for more NFL off-season news.


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[Assistant] Alright fellas, I am coming to you from California today, and that's why we are running a little bit late. Sorry about that, but, uh,


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[Assistant] Well, first of all, speaking about what you don't want to play golf in, was this the worst masters of all time with all the stops and the tree coming down and almost killing people?


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[Assistant] Well, the Masters is like the CIA, just making everything, uh,


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[Assistant] Traps, how are we doing today? Did you, how'd you think of the Masters?


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[Assistant] You know what else is paramount? Our guy Traps wrote an incredible article on CBSsports.com. The 2023 NFL.


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[Assistant] So we thought it'd be fun to play on Trapp's wonderful article here and assign songs to these position groups. So we'll start, I guess, from, uh, from back.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, he, he was, he wasn't late, so he had to do something, uh, to, to disrupt the show. All right. Well, uh, when we get him back, we can move on down the line there, but let's move on to the next group. Linebackers? Linebackers.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Well, I feel like we might, we might, this, this show might be looped in with the, uh, the safety song. Maybe we'll go ahead and put that here. Yeah. What about linebackers?


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[Assistant] I was gonna say, I feel like we need to hear little clips of this, these songs, Billy, to really put it into context.


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[Assistant] Let's talk about the interior offensive line traps. We're starting to work our way back up.


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[Assistant] Better than my playing with the boys. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Well, Dookie was the first CD I ever bought. It was either that or the Chronic. I can't remember. One of the two. Very wildly different. But uhm, say it again?


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[Assistant] Yes, but I, but I remember buying my first CD because that was a jigger and you just grew up with cassette tapes. We, I had, I grew up with records. We had a record player actually.


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[Assistant] Probably, but I don't have like a memory of going and buying a tape, but for sure I had tapes.


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[Assistant] MC Hammer. Oh my god, the pants. I could, I'm saying this. Alright, we are getting off topic here. What's your interior offensive line, uh, brings in?


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[Assistant] Give us, give us a little tune.


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[Assistant] I'm surprised you haven't, you haven't given it like a grateful dad or a fish song yet.


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[Assistant] If you build it, they will come. I'm wearing a Grateful Dead hat. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yep. All right. On that note, let's take a quick break. You're watching the Fixix Podcast and we'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pick 6 Podcast. If you are not following us on social, make sure that you do that at Pick 6 Pod across all social media platforms. Right now we are going through the different groups in the draft and assigning songs.


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[Assistant] Based on how we think that they will do or just basically who they are. Now we're going to move on to running backs traps.


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[Assistant] 2002, I believe, cause. Yeah, I mean like that song was.


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[Assistant] Where does Pearl Jam come from then? Uh, it's something about jam.


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[Assistant] Alright, well, let's, let's, let's talk about tight ends. This is my favorite condition.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, sorry, I'm sorry. I think I got runny backs.


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[Assistant] What song would you assign him then? Uh oh. He gives you butterflies.


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[Assistant] We're only- No, Matt Leiner? That guy was a bust.


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[Assistant] Alright, how about tight ends? My favorite group.


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[Assistant] While you, while you think of it, Dom says the tight end is old town road, annoying at first, but then it grows on you. Titans are bad at first and then they get better.


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[Assistant] The Kenny Logan song can also be tied to this. It doesn't have to be just like one group, a song. There can be multiple groups.


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[Assistant] That also fit in this song. Alright, let's talk about the wide receivers, which I feel like there's a pretty deep class. What do you think Trav?


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[Assistant] That's a good one. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. You watch the pick six podcast.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the fake six podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Chris Trapasso and we are.


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[Assistant] Going through the draft and assigning songs to the different position groups, make sure you join us all week long for more NFL off-season news. And remember to like, comment and subscribe on our YouTube page and do the same if you're listening just to audio.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, before we get into offensive tackles, I did miss at the top of the show, defensive tackles. Let's do that one real quick. What do you think, Trappes?


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[Assistant] I would say Jalen Carter specifically while you're thinking about that. What about Taylor Swift, Shake It Off? Because I feel like in that song,


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[Assistant] You know, she's like, everybody's saying all these things about me. I just got to shake it off. And obviously he's got his legal problems. He's gained a little bit of weight. He didn't look that good at the combines. He's just got to shake it off and uh, hopefully he drafted well.


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[Assistant] She's incredible. She's an incredible songwriter. And like, you know, her voice is great. Her voice is great because it's easy to sing along to. It's not like Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston where you can't keep up with her. You know, she keeps everything at a baseline. Incredible songwriter. And her songs are just fun and catchy.


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[Assistant] Yeah. All right. Well, we're all Swifties now. All right, DT, sorry, I cut you off.


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[Assistant] Okay, I love that. Let's move on to offensive tackles traps.


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[Assistant] I have a confession Brynson, I went to a Dead in Company, uh, concert.


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[Assistant] Yep, at, at the, at the Hollywood Bowl, so it was great, great venue. I never listened to The Grateful Dead, I didn't know anything about it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's just, there's something about jam band music that's just not really cohesive. And so, I don't know, you gotta teach me your ways on how to, uh,


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[Assistant] Well there's no, there's no structure to it, I guess. Maybe that's what it is. It just seems like it's kind of all over the place.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so you'll have to, you'll have to give me some songs to listen to and, and I'll have to figure out how to get more in the jam band because it seems like a fun time. Everybody there seems to be having a very good time. All right, edge rushers, traps.


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[Assistant] Now if people are jamming on their car, listen to this.


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[Assistant] Oh show. Well, this was a very fun show. A lot of, uh, lyrical, uh, appreciation from you Brinson. And Traps, you, you got in there with one song too, which was pretty good. I also held it down on my end for the, uh, the singing here. It seems like a lot of people in the chat don't know these songs. So I don't know if we've just got like a younger.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, same. I mean, I knew a lot of these songs, but also you can see how excited Billy was every time there was a modern song in the hip hop genre. I think that's more what he was going for.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, I think that's going to wrap up our show today. Thanks so much for tuning in to the Pick 6 Cod.


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[Assistant] Shine bright like a diamond. No, but it's really good moves for the eagles.


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[Assistant] Yes, uh, the short answer is yes. And by the way, this is how far RJ's come in four years. I think it's my fourth draft. RJ, who actually recommended me for


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[Assistant] Doing more of this stuff, so I send him a couple pennies every month. He was a draft editor back in 2018-2019, now he's a managing editor.


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[Assistant] Running things over there, so RJ is turning upwards as Mike Tomlin likes to say, and I'm just sort of holding steady, which I'll take.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the Will Levis thing at two is sort of interesting. I don't think the Texans are the ones that are going to make that happen at two. I know that, or at least I've heard that they're out on Stroud. They love Bryce Young. We're going to try to trade up for him and obviously the Carolina Panthers beat him to the punch.


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[Assistant] I think for Will Levesque, too, a team is going to have to trade up and Houston might be interested in trading down. I've heard that they're, they're out on Levesque at two at least. Maybe they circle back at 12 and get them.


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[Assistant] But, uh, there are a handful of teams that I've heard that aren't high on Levis that high in the draft. One of the ones that isn't.


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[Assistant] On April 19th, 2022, Malik Willis was the minus 20 favorite to be the first quarterback drafted. And that just goes to show you that that's a little further out than the draft that we are now, obviously.


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[Assistant] That it's hard, you don't know because teams aren't in the business talking about what they're going to do because unlike breaking news when it comes to a player getting traded in October.


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[Assistant] There's some leverage at play here. It's just like you're telling on yourself and it may not.


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[Assistant] I don't know if Will Levis goes too. I don't think he's going to Houston at two. I'd be shocked if he did. It would have to be a straight up scenario for me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, another way that could happen too is, and this is just hypothetical, I don't disagree with what you've done here in your mock draft, RJ, but if the Eagles really want Jaylen Carter and they just trade up from 10 to 9 and perhaps get Jaylen Carter there and then the Bears come down and can get an offensive tackle there if they so choose.


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[Assistant] Uh, as well. It's going to be interesting to see how this offensive line class goes off the board because Peter Skowronski, who I love and I thought had a great, a great season for Northwestern, isn't going to play left tackle in the NFL. It looks like I would try him there, but every time I talk to someone, they're like, no, his arms are too short. He's moving inside.


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[Assistant] I think he's the best technician of the offensive tackles and, um, or offensive guards in his case. And then it's going to be Paris Johnson Jr. or Broderick Jones. There's going to be some movement on Broderick Jones, I bet. And RJ, you would know more than me in terms of.


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[Assistant] The, the lines, but, uh, teams like project Jones, he's more of a long range.


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[Assistant] Uh, project than, than Parrish Johnson Jr. in terms of the upside. Both are really athletic, but Roger Jones might end up being the better, uh, of the two. And then of course, Darnel Wright, the right tackle out of Tennessee, might go a little higher than people think.


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[Assistant] I don't know what his over under is off the top of my head, but it feels like 15, 16 might be the range that folks typically have him going to these mock drafts, but if he went a little higher than that, that wouldn't surprise me either.


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[Assistant] One thing to note, I don't know if I said on this podcast or with the first pick or I know I said it on radio, but I heard a couple of weeks ago that the Steelers were interested in trading up and one of their targets that I heard was Paris Johnson Jr. So that also could throw a wrench in the plans on how high you're willing to trade up for Paris Johnson Jr. I don't know. I can't imagine you're going, three would be silly in my mind.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, 8, 9, 10 makes more sense. Sort of what you're talking about, RJ, but that's also something to keep an eye on. And it could, by the way, determine who's the first offensive tackle taken if someone comes out of the blue that has someone they fell in love with that isn't, uhm, whoever we think tackle one should be.


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[Assistant] Just something to keep it on. Not, not really much you can do about it, but I've heard that the Steelers are interested in Parrish Johnson Jeter.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so they have two first-round picks, Seahawks have two first-round picks, and those two look the two best landing spots for someone like Anthony Richardson for the reasons you're pointing out, RJ. You don't have to start.


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[Assistant] And it's a solid organization, the coaching staff and the GM, they're not going anywhere. The ownership is solidly behind, uh, those folks. And it's not a situation like the Texans, for example, where Texas fans are skeptical of Kyle McNair doing the right thing or, or sometimes with the Colts and, and Ersay and what, and what he might do sometimes feel like it's, um,


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[Assistant] Impulsive is one way to put it, CJ Saturday. But I, I think that when you have the number one.


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[Assistant] That infrastructure, number two, two first round picks and number three, not a ton of needs. Um, to RJ's point, you could take cornerback, you could take edge rusher and maybe that they do that with those two first round picks. I don't think wide receiver is going to be a huge concern, especially early.


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[Assistant] You can, you have the opportunity to take a quarterback there. So we'll see what happens, but I don't hate that idea. And I'm not sure what the odds are on the quarterback going at five or six RJ, but my instinct is not to hate it.


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[Assistant] And this is the rams pick anyway, so that they're really not picking this high except for that trade. RJ, has, has the betting market, has Vegas gotten better over the last three or four years since betting on the drafts become a thing, or is it more just still reactionary based on news reports?


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[Assistant] Hey, let me ask you this quickly, because I'm looking at your mock draft, uh, uh, just based on the betting market. It's not what you would do necessarily, RJ. And Nolan Smith is 12th to the Texans, but the 12th number is, is sort of, catches my eye because,


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[Assistant] I don't know if he goes that high just based on folks I've talked to and watching him, but tell me why there's a chance that he goes in the middle of the first round.


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[Assistant] Five is where Seattle picks. The other interesting thing is it was hard to find a comp for CJ Stroud. And finally, whenever in the fall earlier, January Hoover, I said it on Gino Smith.


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[Assistant] So, if you like Geno Smith, and Geno Smith isn't a sexy comp, but he played so well last year that you would certainly take that as a franchise quarterback going forward, even if it's not.


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[Assistant] It's like, look, you take a quarterback and then you just reevaluate it at the end of the year. You can never have too many good quarterbacks and options there. So I like that. That's interesting. I know Brenton said that he's going to, he may fall outside of the top 10. I talked to people that said that's not going to happen, but you know, never say never because this is draft season.


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[Assistant] So something that's interesting to me, I've talked to people in the league that think say Flowers has a chance to be wide receiver one, which is interesting because he's 5'9", 183. And when you watch him play in the open field, he reminds me a little bit of Antonio Brown in his prime, which is certainly not a bad thing, but he is undersized.


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[Assistant] And, uh, what I got back was 55% Jackson Spindin Jigwa's wide receiver one and Zay Flowers is the other guy that has a chance to be wide receiver one. And it just depends on the team because different teams like different, different wide receivers at the top of their board. So this 22 and a half number is interesting to me. And I don't know, like I don't, I don't have a good feel for it just based on, on,


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[Assistant] I do love Jordan Addison but at 173 I get concerned if teams are worried about his size. He ran a 449 but that's plenty fast. He's actually faster than that.


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[Assistant] These numbers are very interesting to me, RJ, just because I don't have a real sense. There is no Jamar Chase. There is no...


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[Assistant] For a top line Drake London type situation. Was Drake London over under 10ish last year? Or, cause he went higher than I thought.


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[Assistant] RJ, let me ask you a question. What's CJ? Do you have Cedric Tillman's number in front of you? His over-under number?


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[Assistant] I think he's going to get drafted higher than people think. I think he has a chance to go in the second round. So once we see that number, I'd be interested to see what it actually is.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's a great, that's interesting. I like that. And I want to ask you about his teammate, Hinden Hooker, over under 31 and a half minus 120. Spielman's been talking this up for a while on the, on the, with the first big podcast. He thinks that he's going to go in the first round just for the fifth year option.


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[Assistant] And he, I said to him today, actually, I said, is 19 to the Buccaneers too early for Hinden Hooker? He said, no, it is not. So there's a push for Hinden Hooker that you feel there's a chance that he sneaks it to the first round it looks like.


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[Assistant] By the way, I forgot they're not 32px either, so that's on me. They're 31px.


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[Assistant] And by the way, Katie, um, Rick mentioned this just today. He's mentioned it before. Hinden Hooker, he says reminds him a lot of Teddy Bridgewater. And you talk about RJ, that connection with Minnesota, obviously the front office and coaching staff has changed, but Teddy Bridgewater was drafted there and maybe Hinden Hooker is going to be a TB 2.0 or something.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Rick mentioned 16 or so first round grades and first round grades. When you talk about NFL teams or guys that can come in and start right away, doesn't necessarily mean they want to turn into top tier players.


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[Assistant] Yeah, man, here's the thing. You mentioned Jameer Gibbs to the, to the Bengals as a Steelers fans. I would absolutely hate that. So that tells you how good a pick that would be. I do wonder though, just speaking football, not so much to Betty Marcus, but it feels like Tony Pollard and Jameer Gibbs are the same guy.


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[Assistant] But I don't know what the things that Jerry Jones thinks are good ideas don't necessarily mesh with what other people think are good ideas, but I love Jameer Gibbs in the first round. It's just a fit. Uhm, I love Bijan to the bills. I don't think you want to take him there at the bottom of the first round, Jameer Gibbs, because he feels a lot like James Cook. I think James Cook.


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[Assistant] I think Jimmy Gibbs is a little better player, but uhm, there are a lot of teams between 10 when the Eagles pick and 30 when they pick again. That could be in the running back business. And, uh, another favorite landing spot. I would love B John to go to the chargers whenever they pick in the twenties. I don't know if he'll be there, but just to electrify that offense.


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[Assistant] All that is to say that if Jamiro Gibbs snuck into the first round, I would not be shocked, especially at the tail end, just because he's special. Uh, he told us at the combine that his comp, he compares himself to Christian McCaffrey and that's not far off. You can go Alvin Kamara, you can go Dalvin Cook, whatever it is. Uh, that's the type of player you're getting and he's an immediate impact guy.


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[Assistant] Now, uhm, not for more reasons, I don't bet on anything just because I'm lazy. I'll tell you a funny story though, because I'm considerably older than both of you. Uhm, so when I was in college, like in the mid-90s, you, we literally had to walk to the student union to watch the crawl on ESPN or ESPN-2 or whatever it was to see what the, uhm, like the West Coast games were, so I went to college in...


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[Assistant] In Virginia, because there was, there was no regional telecast. So I gambled my senior year of college. I won my first like 12 bets. It's like $50 bets. I was like 800 bucks. And I lost like 20 in a row.


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[Assistant] And I needed to win like this, uh, I needed to win the over of the Wake Forest Oklahoma State.


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[Assistant] It was, uh, like sweet 16, maybe the lead eight. I can't remember which game, but it's Randolph Childress versus big country.


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[Assistant] And whether I bet the over or the under, I got it. Otherwise I would have to call my parents and borrow money. So that's the last time I really gambled.


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[Assistant] Uhm, laser focus. And it's just, I'm just too lazy, Katie. That's the answer. It's not because of any, any other reason.


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[Assistant] Right. That's why RJ is RJ. That's why he's the managing editor.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm looking at these are interesting, man. I'm looking at the, at number 11. So number 11, for example, the Titans currently hold that pick. Does that mean the 11th overall pick or what the Titans will do if they stay at 11?


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[Assistant] I started like quarterback plus 115 for the tie to the titans, doesn't matter where they do it. Uhm, I don't hate the wide receiver either if they stay put and get a Jackson Smith and Jigba for example. Uhm, it is sort of funny that running back isn't on here because we've seen some Twitter chatter.


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[Assistant] Subtantiated that Derek Henry's getting traded and I don't know what that solves other than trying to blow the team up. But I, I do like the quarterback plus one 15. Is that.


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[Assistant] Is that, in your mind, is that something that would interest you, or as a seasoned vet, or is that not something that pops on your radar?


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[Assistant] Hey RJ, uh, are you sold that Bryce is going first or are you still interested in CJ or someone else number one?


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[Assistant] There was like buzz around the league on Monday and Tuesday, but you couldn't, you had to like tread lightly and teams couldn't like, you know, the Giants can't sing out winky faces and stuff like that. They go to the Twitter account and teams are, teams are paranoid. They're like, you know, like the Bears, we knew the Bears were doing something, but they'd have to say, they didn't write a story on their website that was like,


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[Assistant] Reportedly, we are acquiring. It's like, it is so stupid. And the NFL realized that they would get.


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[Assistant] Crazy ratings! I almost said Bafa, but the last time I said Bafa, I went into a...


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[Assistant] They wanted people paying attention to the league on Monday and Tuesday. My biggest beef with all this.


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[Assistant] Like they don't even, like they've thrown all caution to the wind in discussing these possible deals. Like that's the other reason they did it because they like, they're just like, yeah, here's the deal. It's going to happen. Now guys can still legal notary tampering. That's right. Former notary tampering.


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[Assistant] God, but those were like one of my favorite bloggy stories. It was like John Elway F's up a fax machine and said like the Broncos lose to Elvis Dumerville. It's unbelievable.


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[Assistant] I would have it in a stimulus class, uh, but sort of broke it sort of broke the last stimulus class I had.


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[Assistant] You, you tell me you're in green Bay for all that time and OBJ was on, uh, what, uh, three different teams in that same span and available to be acquired via trade or signing a free agency at no point.


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[Assistant] You're like leaking publicly that you wanted OBJ and now you're like, I'm with the Jets and I want OBJ. It's a very weird.


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[Assistant] I always feels like it may be like that could have come like even from RBJ's people. I don't want to speculate on that.


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[Assistant] I'm curious Brady, I mean, I'm just curious what your percentage on Rodgers going to the Jets is at this point because...


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[Assistant] Are you suggesting that, and I mean, I feel like you, I mean, you're a former quarterback of the NFL. You and I talk off the podcast. You have, you have good information.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you think, like, are you suggesting that he might take a blowtorch to a certain wheel of cheese?


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[Assistant] My god, that was, like, everyone was watching it, and it came off so terrible. Like, Jim Gray, like, taking my talents to South Beach. Uh, Breach, do you think-


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[Assistant] If you, if you, I mean, if you listen, if you do this long enough, you can kind of hear the subtleties in the descriptions of some of these contracts and free agency. For instance, the Alan Lazar deal, like I believe Mike Garofalo of NFL media or NFL network, whatever you will call it, was reporting it. Uh, Jordan Schultz, maybe the score had it first, but Garofalo was saying, he kept, he kept saying they're, they're getting there.


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[Assistant] You know, like you could hear it where it was like, this is a done deal.


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[Assistant] But the Jets are also like kind of playing it a little slow because they don't want to overcommit to Al and Lazard. And then Rodgers is like, Sike! And like deuces out to retirement and Hiawaska and Darkness Chambers while like Al and Lazard, because, and Garry Hall, Michael also pointed out that originally the Jets offered Lazard $9 million a year and it


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[Assistant] Like over the course of Aaron Rodgers not making a decision, this has gone up to $11 million a year. Who knows what Randall Cobble get? It's like, I mean.


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[Assistant] Randall at the first NFL draft ever covered. Randall Cobb is taking the second round pick and Roger's been getting paid for like an extra five years. He's going to do it now. He's redundant unless the Packers traded Elijah Moore, but he wants to get it. He wants to get the money in the same thing with.


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[Assistant] God yeaah, convict story man. Look, no one will, no one, you'll never hear me criticize anybody for mispronouncing things. I can't even pronounce them.


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[Assistant] I think it's, I think it's a good move by the, by the Cowboys to get, to get Stephanka where I, I think that, uhm, do we, we'll talk about the Colts, I think we added them, do we add them, if we added them to the losers list, we can get to them in a second. Uhm, but, you know, the, the Dallas, Dallas needed, you know,


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[Assistant] It's like, you know, we talked about the Bears yesterday, right? And how the Bears are winners because they went out and spent a bunch of money and got a bunch of players. It's very easy to be categorized as a winner in day one on free agency. If you just spend a crap ton of money, that doesn't necessarily mean you made your team substantially better. I do think that Gilmore.


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[Assistant] Showed, he showed enough that he's still got a little bit in the tank. I don't think Brady that he's like necessarily an elite corner, but they got him for peanuts and you beef up your secondary.


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[Assistant] It's sort of like, it's just sort of like second level signings in a trade here that I think benefits Dallas. You know, I don't think they're like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think they are, yeah, I'm like, whoa, now Dallas is the favorite with the Super Bowl or anything, but damn, good moves.


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, Katie, just so you feel better about mispronouncing anything, uh, I don't know if you heard me slide that in when Breach started talking. This is the all time mispronunciation.


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[Assistant] You know, Eagles fans, Billy, are going to be all, you know, can't believe he got called to the final by the Super Bowl. That dude was really good for Philly. Like he's, he's been a really good quarterback basically his entire career and really underrated just in terms of.


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[Assistant] First in the NFL in completion percentage against George attempt against a passer rating against minimum of 75 attempts. Like when he's the primary defender, this guy balls out and.


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[Assistant] Philly, you know, if, like, if they can add, if they can get Chelsea Gardner Johnson back, all of a sudden you feel pretty good about what they've gotten their secondary. They still have plenty of talent on that front seven, even losing a couple of pieces. So yeah, I mean, I'm fine. I, I, I like the idea that Philly said, all right,


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[Assistant] Gotta stop the bleeding a little bit. Let's, let's make sure we bring somebody back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we saw the numbers too. And like, if you think about, I mean, look again, you're asking Rashad Penny to stay healthy and that's not a guarantee, but like if he plays 15 games.


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[Assistant] 16 games, he can lead the league in rushing in that offense with Kelsey coming back and just his explosiveness and how, and his style of running. So.


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[Assistant] I like the idea of adding Penny, but I mean, you definitely need that depth there because you see how much they utilize Kenneth Gainwell, Miles Sanders, Boston Scott, you know, all of these guys and they've done it for years under different coaching staffs. Like if you're going to go with Penny as your primary back, you need to make sure you have that depth there. Boston's got a very nice addition.


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[Assistant] Every, with the Raiders, it's like, I'm like, ooh, great move. The Raiders got better. And I'm like, man, I like that move. I'm like, ooh, the Raiders got better. And I'm like, man, I like that move. It's like, it's like they ended up in the exact same spot.


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[Assistant] As you have to assume, I think that they're probably going to trade Hunter Renfro. I believe on the 17th, he has a bonus that becomes due. You know, you add Jacobi Myers, shout out NC State.


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[Assistant] Get rid of my cousin Hunter Renfro, my bald cousin Hunter Renfro, um, and it seems like, I mean, do we think that like, Brady, do you think that Hunter Renfro and Jacobi Meyers can coexist in that same offense? I mean, it makes more sense if, if obviously Darren Waller is gone, but like,


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[Assistant] It feels like they're in the exact same spot, but with personnel that's just more familiar now.


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[Assistant] I also think too, that if you look at what the Raiders have done, right? Beganos comes in in year one, and Medeiros and Ziegler come in in year one.


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[Assistant] And people were calling for his head early in the season, even though, you know, they had like a bunch of ugly losses that they choked to the Cardinals of that big lead at halftime. They were losing a ton of games and people were like, you got to fire McDaniels right now. It's like Mark Davis ain't going to be paying the Gruden and McDaniels in like a third coach. Like everybody take a breath. Like the team looks like they sink.


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[Assistant] I think when you sort of take that as a whole and you do the review at the end of the season and probably


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[Assistant] You know, you're bringing in Jimmy G, get rid of Derek Carr, you're bringing in Jacoby Myers, you're patrifying this place. And if there was any heat on your seat, you're at least saying, all right, look, that was sort of year zero and I don't know if it necessarily counts. And now we're going to start to sort of do what we're doing with our guys coming in. So I think maybe a little something that where you're trying to buy a little bit of time.


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[Assistant] There's like a, there's like a 40% chance that they're like, you're not going to the Superbowl guy.


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[Assistant] There may be a little bit of like, you know, you, you dated somebody in college, whether it's a girlfriend or, you know, whether you're, regardless of the sex, like you dated somebody in college, you're like, Derek, I'm saying like, I'm not limiting to your girlfriend from college. It could be a girl who's boyfriend from college.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's like glam-rafting. Don't, don't, don't look at this like, you know.


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[Assistant] Anyway, point being is, um, I was flying, I did up in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] And I get there, I get there at like 10 o'clock at night. Like I was gonna, I'll play some blackjack, go to bed.


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[Assistant] No, I was like, I got in there, I was like, ah, you know what, could you downgrade me to like the worst room you have? I'm like, I, this is, I'd actually prefer to be in the filthiest, like, actually, sir, that is the filthiest room.


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[Assistant] We have already got a gag where we do that. Uhm, if you had to, if you had to call Brady and Breach by the wrong names, what would you, what would be there? Like if you, if I'm Brian and you're Kelly.


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[Assistant] I think too, like, one of the things that gets lost a lot, this is agent's fault, this is the fault of the agents, this is the fault of the teams, it's the fault of the media members, it's the fault of fa- like, everyone is at blame for this. I don't want to blame fans for it, but like,


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[Assistant] We get these contracts, the wide receiver contracts are the best example.


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[Assistant] Here, DeAndre Hopkins is the highest paid wide receiver in football. It's like, and then Tyree kill gets his contract. Devontae Adams gets his contract and you actually dive into these things. You're like, I mean.


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[Assistant] These guys just wanted to be, they just wanted to be the highest average annual value, regardless of how much guaranteed money is in there. And so Lamar's, when you look at the quarterback contracts, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, in terms of total guaranteed money, 133 would slot him in as the seventh most guaranteed money in the NFL behind Mahomes, Allen, Rogers, Murray, Wilson and Watson. But those guys wouldn't be taking three year deals. They have longer contracts. The Watson thing is going to be an outlier. So if you-


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[Assistant] You, like, you hear, and again, I think Watson is the outlier because Jimmy hasn't messed up and the Browns are, you know, the Browns ticked everybody off.


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[Assistant] But you see Russell Wilson total, quote, unquote, total guaranteed 165. Except if you sort, as you point out Brady by fully guaranteed, it would be the second most fully guaranteed money of any quarterback contract in the NFL behind only Watson.


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[Assistant] That would mean, and it's on a three year deal. Like if you could get three years, one 33 fully guaranteed with no cut from your agent, the only reason you need the agent is so he tells you to take the deal.


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[Assistant] And again, I know you could argue like you should just play out the franchise tag twice and then hit the market. Maybe, but you do run the risk of injury. $133 million. You are going to set up your life's gonna be pretty good for the rest of your life. If you get $133 million.


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[Assistant] It feels like at this point, if Lamar doesn't want to take the 133 and 3.


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[Assistant] If that, I mean, if he's saying that he had that offered to him and we heard what Schefter said.


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[Assistant] I just think it's like the guy said former MVP and you can get him for like, if you would have offered him a four year fully guaranteed contract, he's probably taking it. I mean, you're getting like, I don't know. Um, I feel like to me, this feels like.


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[Assistant] Given, if you're Lamar Jackson and you hear this Adam Schechter podcast, which gets, you know, put out on a bunch of, you know, it gets aggregated on a bunch of blogs, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, I think you, you hear that and you're like, this is the Ravens leaking this out to make me look bad. And then Lamar is tweeting out the contract. And so it's like.


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[Assistant] It, it feels like, and geographically it sets up nicely too, that we are.


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[Assistant] Getting closer and closer to the Kirk Cousins, uh, style situation. What did, um,


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[Assistant] Who was it that, uh, what's his name? The old GM who was ousted, uh, Bruce Allen. Remember Bruce Allen did that interview? He's like.


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[Assistant] You know, it's like, uh, we've been talking to Kurt's people. It's like you called him Kurt. He's been on your roster for five years.


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[Assistant] You know, I mean, just the circumstances involved here, I really think that we're probably closer and closer to him playing out two franchise tags and then just hitting free agency and seeing what happens.


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[Assistant] Well, when you brush your teeth with Coors Light, sometimes it's difficult to like, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, we've seen the chiefs in free agency. They went out and did this with Joe Tooney.


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[Assistant] You know, they would have did it with Orlando Brown to a degree, but it wasn't a full big contract. They've had a lot of success being aggressive in free agency with big contracts on offensive linemen.


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[Assistant] And you sort of wonder, let's say they see Juwan Taylor. They think, man, this guy can really play. We feel like in our system, he would really develop into like an elite player on the left side. Let's go out and sign him in free agency for 20 million a year average annual value, which would put him, uh, in terms of, and you play on the left side behind, you know, I had a Ronnie Stanley behind trip, Williams, Bakhtiari and tonsil.


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[Assistant] You know, like he's not break, he's not resetting the market. Uh, you know, if he's the highest paid right tackle, if that's where they play him, but my point being is like, I sort of wonder if.


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[Assistant] Really short, those tackle positions. I mean, they've, they've nailed the offensive line outside of that one, you know, disaster Super Bowl just in terms of free agency. I mean,


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[Assistant] Also only 26, so you're, you're, you're getting him through the age 30.


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[Assistant] What would you do if you, what would you do if you signed an $80 million contract right before your birthday? He is 25.


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[Assistant] We had some cocktails throughout the day, obviously, uh, some, you know, some trophies. Um, I was a little loose. I wouldn't play very well. So I was like, whatever. I actually like, like somebody was like, there's like, there's a lot of chatter out there. There's like a boat flying by fast. I still go with my ball.


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[Assistant] Alright, welcome everybody to the Pick 6 Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson, John Breach, and Tyler Sullivan. Little Thursday mailbag coming at ya. Fellas, how are we doing?


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[Assistant] Etc, etc. Alright, well might as well get right into it since that was a very lackluster hello from you guys. Alright, first question from the listeners. How impactful will the Jalen Carter legal situation, how will it affect his draft stock?


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[Assistant] Well that's what I'm saying, like this is bad, but guys have been drafted.


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[Assistant] And done well with worse. I mean look at someone like Tyreek Hill or things that happened in college like domestic violence and they still get drafted. So these two misdemeanors I don't think is gonna affect him that much.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Joe Mixon too, they were talking about. Uhm, alright, how about, uh, let's talk Super Bowl. It's not that far, uh, away now. Super Bowl 57 field, was it over watered?


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[Assistant] What do you guys think? I mean, a lot of players said they were slipping all over the place. They were saying they watered it down, then they put a tarp on it that it smelled like it was moldy. I mean, what do you guys think?


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[Assistant] How much do you think it affected the actual game? I mean, obviously there were no sacks, which I lost a lot of money on because I had a first sack prop, I had over sacks, all kinds of sacks and there was not one from the two teams that had the most sacks. Obviously that has to do with the grass.


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[Assistant] I should get a refund on all my bets. And you know, I'm not a person that will email the sports book when somebody goes down to get a refund. And I know that we're not talking about this, but I would like to ask this to you guys actually as a member of this podcast and also a listener as well. What do you think of people who are requesting refunds from sports books?


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[Assistant] When a player goes down an injury, because I kind of think it's a little bit ridiculous. You're gambling. You don't know what's going to happen. You caught a tough break if somebody goes down.


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[Assistant] People are bullying these sportsbooks into, uh, giving them refunds. And it was interesting when Patrick Mahomes went down the first time with his ankle, they were like offering all kinds of refunds and then he came back and they ended up winning the game. So it's like jokes on you guys. Uhm, so yeaah.


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[Assistant] Well, the good, the good news is, is you, it doesn't even ask. They just refund you. It just shows back up in your bankroll. So then it's like, all right, thanks Twitter. Although I think that, uh, you are lame for doing that. Okay. We're going to take a quick break right here. You're watching the pick six podcast. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Alright, welcome back to the Pick 6 Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson, Tyler Sullivan, and John Breach. It's a Mailbag Thursday, so make sure that you are asking us questions in the chat.


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[Assistant] But this one's an interesting one to me. Uh, what do you make of 49ers GM John Lynch contacting Tom Brady about playing for them in 2023?


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[Assistant] Which I'll go ahead and start on this one. First of all,


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[Assistant] This is slightly misleading of a question, whoever asked us this one, because I read the article and basically all John Lynch said that he did was congratulate him on a great career. He wasn't exactly asking him about playing for them in 2023. I have been dying on this Tom Brady is not coming to the 49ers hill for at least


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[Assistant] A year now. I don't think it makes sense for the 49ers. Yes, I do know that we need a quarterback, probably a veteran presence because


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[Assistant] We've got these young guys, we don't know how Trey Lance is going to end up working out.


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[Assistant] He's injured, you know, he had two surgeries on his ankle this season. He got Brock Purdy, who's also maybe not going to be available until training camp or a little bit after that. But I'm thinking like a cheapie, a one year deal, cheapie veteran guy, someone like Tom Brady. It's too expensive.


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[Assistant] And I just don't think that we need him, but, and we as a player and a member of the 49ers, that's how I'm speaking.


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[Assistant] But don't you think that he's like in dad mode now? It feels a little different to me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that was kind of the whole thing with Jimmy Garoppolo is he wasn't that, I mean, obviously health is the biggest thing with Jimmy Garoppolo, but that he wasn't that mobile. And that's why they went and moved to hell and high water in order to get Trey Lance. Uhm, but the Trey Lance thing is interesting to me because I know that Kyle Shanahan took a lot of heat this year for a lot of these injuries. Two quarterbacks were running backs were running up the middle. And why is he continually calling to run up the middle when it comes to someone like Trey Lance? And I'm curious what you guys think of this.


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[Assistant] Do you think it was because the treelance couldn't get to the outside and that's why there were some plays of him running up the mill?


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[Assistant] Well, when you looked at him in that last playoff game, he looked AARP.


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[Assistant] Can he get to the outside? Is that the problem? Is that why they kept calling plays for him to run up the middle?


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[Assistant] I mean, there's not much- You should get me talking about this for a long time. I never thought that we should have drafted Lance and it's not that I don't like Lance or think that he's a nice person, but we haven't seen him play football in what, going on three years now?


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[Assistant] It's a whole thing and Captain Spock in here, if the Niners get Brady, I'll burn my season tickets.


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[Assistant] No, anybody but Andy Dalton. First of all, Andy Dalton lost me so much money last year. I had to tell myself every day, do not bet on Andy Dalton. Do not bet on Andy Dalton. And for some reason,


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[Assistant] Let me, uh, I gotta hit a Bateman question in here. Okay, what about Rashad Bateman calling out Eric DaCosta even though he's never done anything in the league and he's constantly injured?


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, Jojo Sanchez says, what are the chances Bateman is traded if Lamar signs elsewhere? He's clapping back at the GM LOL and hasn't really done anything. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I just don't know if, uh, I think athletes and Twitter sometimes are not a good combination. I feel like there's so many that have been getting the, you know, obviously everyone's a human being, you get emotional, you want to respond to something and then you just bash your GM on Twitter.


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[Assistant] Yeah, alright, well let's move on here and let's talk about Aaron Rodgers. He's always a fun one to talk about. Why does Aaron Rodgers find ways to make himself a story every off season? Is it intentional?


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[Assistant] I just think he's a weird guy. I think he's just a weird guy and you know, he likes to take ayahuasca and he likes to go on darkness retreats.


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[Assistant] And, you know, he was involved with Shailene Woodley for a second. He doesn't like his family very much. Like, I think he's just interesting to all of us because he's very good, you know, future Hall of Famer and, and he's just kind of weird. So it's.


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[Assistant] No, okay, let me walk that back. Okay, good point. Let me walk that back. Dating her and being gay and sure is not weird, but the as quickly as it happened and as quickly as it fell apart, that's just kind of like tabloid fodder.


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[Assistant] How does that pass through all of the, the, the, you know, you can't do any kind of, obviously no kind of drugs or performance enhancers, but Ayahuasca doesn't count? That I don't get.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, Stu Brumel says, I like Rogers. I like his nonsense. We've got nine months to fill after all. Do you guys think that he stays with the Packers?


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[Assistant] Well, and he's, he's just himself and that's what I'm saying. I think he's intentionally just himself and putting himself out there. I don't think he's doing it necessarily for attention from other people. I don't think he minds the attention, but I think he's really this guy that just likes to do all this stuff, which is different.


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[Assistant] Nothing wrong with that. All right, we're going to take a quick break. You are watching the Pick 6 Podcast and we'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Fix6 Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson, John Breach, and Tyler Sullivan. It is a Thursday mailbag, so please ask us questions in the chat.


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[Assistant] And now we're going to talk about something a little interesting. I have been gambling for a while now and I consider myself a degenerate in nice packaging and I did not know that you could bet on the combine, but lo and behold people, you can.


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[Assistant] So, uh, let's go through, you can, you can bet on the 40R Dash, Bench Press, and much more. First of all, have you guys bet on the Combine before?


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[Assistant] Well, let's, let's look at one of these right now. Will anyone break the 40 yard dash record of 4.22 seconds? Yes, plus 400, no, minus 650. John Ross set the NFL 40 yard dash record in 2017 by posting a crazy 4.22 time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay, everyone's saying no, but no one's gonna take this minus 650 bet. Is it, is it worth just a little sprinkle on plus 400? Is it possible or we're just saying absolutely not.


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[Assistant] That would be the smart way to play this. Okay, how about the most bench press reps? Over or under 39 and a half, over minus 105, under minus 125. So the under is the favorite there.


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[Assistant] The over is, is minus 105, it's a little bit better. The under is the one that's juiced, minus 125.


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[Assistant] That's kinda like, I mean, totally not the same thing, but, uh, what is it, Mac McClung in the All-Star game for NBA when he...


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[Assistant] He's a G leaguer, just went out there and did the dunk contest and that was it because obviously the real stars don't want to get injured in it. So yea, maybe it's a kid that's really not going anywhere that just wants to come show out and get the record.


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[Assistant] For some reason I thought it was you, but maybe it's not. Alright, let's keep moving on this. Highest...


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[Assistant] Okay, so that was it. First of all, give it a 30 second story. Try not to make it last too long, but I feel like the people need to hear that.


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[Assistant] Well, cause you don't wanna, you don't wanna look weak, right? So you just, I think you do just have to go for it knowing that you're gonna get pummeled.


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[Assistant] What do we think here? The, uh, right now the record is by Donald Washington in 2009 and Chris Conley or yea Conley in 2015, 44 inches or higher has happened just in two of the last three combines.


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[Assistant] Okay, going over. Alright, what about the longest broad jump? Longer than eleven, uh,


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[Assistant] 11 feet 5 inches, yep. Or shorter than that. Minus 125 or minus 105 for the shorter.


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[Assistant] Alright, how about the fastest 20-yard shuttle? Slower than 3.88 seconds, minus 115. Oh, they're both minus 115 or faster than 3.88 seconds. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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[Assistant] Alright, well let's bump this up to the fastest 60 yard shuttle. Slower than 10.81 seconds or faster.


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[Assistant] Slower, uh, is the favorite here, minus 120, faster, minus 110. Brandon Crooks also held the record in the 60-yard shuttle for three years at 10.72 seconds.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Captain Spock here, if you bet this stuff, see an addiction specialist. There is no gambling shame on this podcast, my friend, okay?


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[Assistant] Well, uh, Dominic says that the podcast does these. I'm putting the over under on the 60 yard shuttle at 30.81. What do you guys think for us over under that?


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[Assistant] Over, over on that one. I was told from a high school trainer, they have three guys who have a good chance of breaking the record. Oh, okay. Oh, from a high school trainer. So we've got some insider information here from Zach George.


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[Assistant] Well look, there's plenty of time to get ready for the Pixix Podcast Combine, uh, next, next season to, we'll see how, uh, I would advise my shoes.


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[Assistant] I think it'd be a great actual YouTube series to see everybody competing against each other.


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[Assistant] Alright, well this is going to conclude our show today. Thank you for watching the Pick 6 Podcast and we'll see you next time.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, he's talking about the president before Mark Murphy. Talking about how he got along with everyone, uh, before this current regime came into place. He's talking about how the current regime screwed over multiple former Packers players on their way out of Green Bay.


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[Assistant] He loves Packers fans, loves his Packers teammates, but did not like working for that front office. But you know what? He's gonna be a jet! That's the big takeaway here.


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[Assistant] So you're talking about, uh, if we're talking about what the Packers asking price is. So we had Adam Schefter say this morning that the Packers felt, and this is what Brenton alluded to, that the Packers felt


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[Assistant] That Aaron Rodgers is worth at least what the Rams or what the Lions got from Matthew Stafford so that he's worth at least two first round picks. But that was what


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[Assistant] I feel like he's worth. That doesn't necessarily mean that was their asking price.


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[Assistant] And then you had the Pelicero report that Sullivan referred to that saying that the Packers were not asking for multiple first round picks, but that doesn't mean they're not asking for a first round pick because


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[Assistant] He just used the word multiple. They very well could be looking for at least


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[Assistant] One first round pick. And the other problem is here, we already had, we also had a report from Pro Football Talk on Wednesday morning saying that the Packers would milk this out into the draft if they have to because they kind of have the leverage now because Aaron Rodgers has said he wants to play for the Jets. The Jets know they need a quarterback. They can't wait till the draft. If they don't have someone they let pre-agency go by, they're screwed. I mean, then they'll have to maybe draft someone or what are they going to do?


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[Assistant] You either give us a first round pick or guess what? We'll just, we're just going to sit on the sideline and we're not going to answer our phone unless you call and tell us you're going to give us a first round pick. So they have Rogers threw them under the bus and said they're holding everything up and I'm sure they're fine with this now because they're not going to make the trade unless they get the compensation they want.


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[Assistant] And then if you're the Packers and you're looking at this trade, but if you're the Jets and you're saying, why would we give up a first round pick and pay Aaron Rodgers $60 million when now Lamar Jackson's out there who you could get for two first round picks and $60 million. So if I'm thinking of trading two first round picks, if I'm even considering it, if I'm the Jets.


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[Assistant] Really crazy and we might not see this trade happen in the next week just because of all these things that kind of have to be ironed out.


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[Assistant] But the flip side here again is that today is March 15th and we're hearing this from Aaron Rodgers. He said he made his decision to play for the Jets on Friday, March 10th. So he has known for five days that he wants to play for the Jets. Ostensibly that means the Jets have also known for five days that Aaron Rodgers wants to play for the Jets. And so by


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[Assistant] Oh, you're going to sign all Aaron Rodgers guys and not end up with Aaron Rodgers because you really screwed yourself over. That happened. So we're not dropping off our demands. We want a first round pick. We want your 13th overall pick and give it to us, but we're not trading them. We're going to hold them until September 1st when the option bonus is up and then we'll


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[Assistant] Whatever, we'll figure it out then, but the Jets are really putting themselves in a corner here as far as negotiating it.


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[Assistant] And, and since you brought up Fav, I will say real quick that you mentioned that, uh,


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[Assistant] That could get bumped up to a first round if Favre had led the Jets to the Super Bowl, which he did not and it ended up being a third round pick because Favre played in at least 50% of the snaps.


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[Assistant] If he had played the snaps and led Jets in the playoffs, it would have been a second round pick and then Super Bowl appearance, first round pick. So I like, something like that to me makes a lot of sense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this was probably the one quarterback you could add and also feel comfortable keeping Zach Wilson because there's two dynamics here. One, uh, Wilson was asked in January what's going to happen if the Jets bring in a veteran and he said, I'm going to make that dude's life hell in practice every day. That's Zach Wilson thinking,


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[Assistant] He's not gonna plan on beating out Aaron Rodgers, especially look when the Jets and Packers played each other earlier this season, uh, back in October.


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[Assistant] Wilson literally said, Hey look, we didn't have an NFL team in Utah. I wasn't necessarily a Packers fan growing up, but I was a fan of Aaron Rodgers. Literally the guy he followed as Tyler mentioned.


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[Assistant] As a kid, this is the guy he emulated, so I think he would be fine sitting behind Aaron Rodgers and learning from one of the best and he's not going to raise a lot of racket or cause a lot of drama, so I think if you're the Jets, you say, alright, we can keep


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[Assistant] Let's do it. Aaron's fine with it. Zach's fine with it. This QB room works.


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[Assistant] Uh, but you know what? I'm just gonna say this. If...


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[Assistant] The Packers did that. Aaron Rodgers would literally play for two more years just to spite the Packers instead of the Giants. He might have completely been planning to play one more year, but just to make sure Green Bay doesn't get a good draft pick, he would send a giant FU to them saying, you know what, I'm gonna play two years just so, uh,


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[Assistant] But I also think the expectations come with what the compensation ends up being. If you were to trade two first round picks for Aaron Rodgers, you best go out and win a Super Bowl. But if you end up only giving up a fourth round pick, then it's like, okay, Aaron just needs to get us to the playoffs. And the thing is,


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[Assistant] We're automatic number one favorite to win the Super Bowl. Cause the one thing about Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford is they came out of the NFC, which is very winnable for anyone. Aaron Rodgers had to go to New York and beat Josh Allen in his own division, beat Patrick Mahomes, beat Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert. There's just so many quarterbacks and that conference is so loaded.


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[Assistant] That I think Jets fans will be okay if he, or just get them to the playoffs in year one. We're talking about the team that has the longest drought without a playoff appearance in the NFL right now. They haven't been there since 2010, which coincidentally is also the year Rogers won his only Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Uh, so maybe this is a match made in heaven. Just get, if he gets in the playoffs, I think most Jets fans would consider the trade a success.


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[Assistant] Well, I think if he only plays one year and they made it to the divisional round, I think that Jets fans, like, yeah, I've been in the playoffs in 13 years. I'm fine with that.


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[Assistant] He said since March 10th, I've made it clear that my intention is to play. So that, I think, I feel like that's when he told the Jets. Okay. So, so that it became known on that day that he planned to play for the Jets and wanted to play for the Jets.


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[Assistant] Oh, like the AJ thing is more of a close friend, like, hey man, I think I'm gonna go play for the Jets. Sure.


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[Assistant] Just between me and you. Yeah, I mean, I think they're best friends.


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[Assistant] Uh, I am Billy Trice. Got my man Sully today here with me. CBS Sports podcast. NFL's daily podcast. How you doing Sully? What's going on Billy? How you doing? How you liking the hosting chair? Look at you. I know. Look at me. I'm an NFL offseason. You know, they got me out here really working. I'm on camera today, man.


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[Assistant] Alright, so let's start off today. We're going to be talking about what each NFL team needs this off season, whether it's through the draft or through a free agent acquisition. So Sully, let's start with the AFC.


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[Assistant] Maybe they'd be in the running or in the conversation for a guy like DeAndre Hopkins or maybe, you know, Cincinnati let's T Higgins.


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[Assistant] Draft for, like, running backs is very, very, very deep. Josh Jacobs, uh, you know, Miles Sanders, those types of guys are in this pool. So like, I'm just not-


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[Assistant] Well let's, let's pivot to the Cincinnati Bengals. We kind of talked about T. Higgins, uh, we kind of talked about Bates a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Wilson actually has Anton Harrison going to Cincinnati, uh, with the 30th overall pick, uh, out of Oklahoma. So that's who he necessarily thinks that.


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[Assistant] They'll draft at that spot in his latest, uh, mock draft. You can find it on CBSsports.com. Uh, make sure you guys tune in for all your draft coverage.


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[Assistant] They allow too much pressure on Joe Burrow. And I think that's been an issue for this team for a few years. And if they can figure that out, they can figure the offensive line. They, they were better this year than they were last year. But if they can keep trending in an upward motion.


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[Assistant] This Cleveland Browns team necessarily needs because I think you have to figure out what Deshaun Watson is going to be able to do for this team. You know what I mean? Like you saw him play this year and


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[Assistant] It's hard for me to really nail down what this team needs. They don't have a first round pick this year because they got Deshaun Watson. That was part of the Deshaun Watson package. So it's for me, I guess.


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[Assistant] I think this Cleveland Browns team just needs Deshawn Watson to be Deshawn Watson and to be the Deshawn Watson that we saw before, you know, all these allegations and all this thing, all these things stirred up.


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[Assistant] Because they just don't have a lot of wiggle room, uhm, in terms of cat space. So, Sully, let's just move on. That was, that was a quick one.


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[Assistant] Uh, your whole analysis on where these quarterbacks should go. I do think that's very intriguing about the Texans though, you know, prolonging their situation, waiting to get that, that Caleb, that, that Caleb love, uh, you know, sweepstakes next season.


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[Assistant] Alright Sully, so, what's our next team? What's our next AFC team? Let's, let's, let's, let's, uh, start, uh, rattling off these, uh, AFC teams so we can get to the NOC.


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[Assistant] Maybe that might rejuvenate, uh, Jalen Ramsey's career. You know, he's had some struggles and gotten beat a lot while being in, uh, LA and with the Rams. Maybe the glitz and glamour has gotten to him and, uh, it has made his play drop a little bit, but I would actually love to see Jalen Ramsey back in Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] I think it's also not a clear cut thing that Evan Ingram comes back. And even if he does come back, you still can draft Luke Musgrove out of Oregon State. That's uhm, who Wilson has the Jacksonville Jaguars taking 24th overall.


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[Assistant] He likes his tight ends and tight ends help quarterbacks very well. So that could also help Trevor Morris take that next step next season. But moving on, Sully, who we got?


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[Assistant] They needed more pass rushing threats on their defense. Like that was just something that was very.


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[Assistant] Glooming, especially when you're looking at the Super Bowl, like it was like the Eagles had an immense amount of pass rushers and like the Chiefs had like.


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[Assistant] What are your thoughts on if they do draft Will Levis? How do you, like, because if you think about this Raiders team, Josh Jacobs is obviously out of there. They have to replace their running back situation. Where do, what direction is


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[Assistant] I completely agree with you, brother. For sure. A thousand percent. Alright, let's pivot. Let's move on to the Chargers. What?


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[Assistant] Do you think they go, you know, offensive line to try and get a little more protection for Justin Herbert? He had those, those lingering injuries that he occurred earlier in the season. They kind of obviously linger throughout the whole season. Do you think they go offensive line to try and really protect him and give him a shot at making a real playoff run this year?


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[Assistant] Alright, so let's go to the NFC now, let's pivot, let's make a little...


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[Assistant] Let's make a little move over to the NFC. Uhm, let's start off with the New York Giants, Sully. What do the Giants need? You know, Daniel Jones, what are they gonna do with him? Saquon?


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[Assistant] Let's move on to my guys, MC Champions, Philadelphia Eagles. What is the, what are the biggest moves that you feel like the Eagles need to make this off of?


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[Assistant] I think our main things that we need to figure out and need to harness are, we need to get a running back. Miles Sanders, we're probably going to let him go.


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[Assistant] And then to the playoffs, there was a lot of gain on Atlanta, Boston, Scott, because they were the more consistent guys. They were the guys that were able to really get the offense in the run game jump started. So I just don't believe that how he's going to be willing to pay a guy like Miles Sanders, but on the defensive end, Javon Hargrave.


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[Assistant] And CJ Gardner-Johnson are the two biggest guys that we need to re-sign. Epps needs to get signed as well. Marcus Epps needs to get signed as well. But those two guys are the biggest guys that on the defensive end need to get signed. Hargrave played very well, had double digit sacks.


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[Assistant] Really plays well in the run game as well. And then obviously CJ Gardner Johnson led the league in interceptions or was at least top two in interceptions this year.


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[Assistant] And you know, he, he's a, he's a, he's a very versatile piece. He's a guy like Brian Dawkins who can play a lot of different positions and move a lot of different places on the field and give you a lot of production and allows the defensive coordinator to call a lot of calls.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeah, I mean, from what his press conference said, he said that, you know, he doesn't want to play for cheap. And I mean, that's fine. You can go to a, maybe a losing team or, or, you know, and already,


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[Assistant] What are the commanders need, Sully? Obviously, they tried wins. Wins didn't work out. They have a void at quarterback. Their defense wasn't too shabby this year, but offensively, what did


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[Assistant] What's happening with Dag? Does he, is it, is it an actual possibility that he gets moves? Obviously, Kellen Moore is out of there. Uhm, but what do you also do with a guy like Tony Pollard? Uhm, and Zeke? So like, what, what do the cow,


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[Assistant] I don't disagree with that at all. And I think the Lamar Jackson thing would obviously be nuts and would definitely pay homage to Michael Vicks. Again, I like chaos. So if all of a sudden... You're messy! It's okay. It's fine to like messiness. It's fine. It's all good.


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[Assistant] Well, we're talking about the NFC North right now. We already discussed the Bears. Um, Brynson, you can take over and kind of ask about the Lions maybe. What's, what's next for the Lions? What, what did the Lions need this coming off season?


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, like, we didn't like necessarily like dive deep into the- Oh yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah, we didn't mention the Vikings, but we did. So I mean, yeah, we can go to the Packers, that's fine.


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[Assistant] Alright, are we sticking with the yards? I'm gonna stick with Patrick Mahomes here. I'm gonna say Patrick Mahomes goes over eighteen and a half rushing yards. Uh, he did that ten times this season, and look, I know what you're thinking.


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[Assistant] The Nickelodeon NFL Nickmas Game. Christmas Day at 4.30 Eastern, 1.30 Pacific. Only on Nickelodeon.


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[Assistant] Equality gets no timeouts or tryouts or second chances. February reminds us we could change our circumstances. We give thanks to the athletes who took big risks, who beat the odds despite being eyeballs because of their skin. But to change the status quo, you have to be willing when silence is comfortable. Speaking out is an act of resistance. This is the month we remember. But more importantly, we dream of something big.


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[Assistant] Uh, breach so far, only, uh, Levy and Cliff are looking for jobs. And, uh, we talked about Levy, we talked about Levy last night, Cliff this afternoon. So, pretty slow going.


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[Assistant] Sounds like we're into a pro football talk earlier this afternoon that Cliff's contract was through 2026. So they are having to, it ain't going to be a get out of jail free card for, for the bid wells. They're going to have to pay up to pay for, uh, Oh, Cliff's trip to Mexico. There's just talking about


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you gotta figure out, and we talked about this earlier as well,