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[Assistant] First of all, Dolphins aren't going to pay that because they've had the opportunity to for months. They could have traded for Dalvin Cook at any point beginning March 1 if they were willing to eat that contract.


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[Assistant] They're not going to do that. They're just, they don't value running backs at that level. Do I think if he goes out there and it's midway or late in training camp and four million with incentives is this best offer and the Dolphins and the Jets and team X and team Y all are offering the same thing, all things being equal, he'll take the Dolphins. That's the hometown team. That's where he wants to play.


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[Assistant] I would, I would say it's more likely than not that, uh, Raheem Mostert and, uh, you know, A Chain and Jeff Wilson and all these guys they already have in the room.


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[Assistant] Uhm, are going to be what you see out there. I mean, they, they use a third round pick for the first time since 2016 on a running back. No, doing that, knowing that the possibility was real, the Dalvin Cook will get cut. I think that tells you what you need to know about their plans.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's far more likely that A Chain takes carries away from Raheem Oster than Dalvin Cook does, yes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that's why Connor Williams is kind of sticking it to him right now by holding out. Uh, I mean, it's bonkers. Like it, it makes my head hurt to think that a center who was already making $7 million who signed a contract 16 months ago, 15 months ago,


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[Assistant] Had a mini camp holdout for more money. Like, look, dude, you're not Kelsey. Okay. You're not, you're a strong, solid piece of an offensive line, but I think he understands that he's looking around at.


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[Assistant] You really need me because after me, there's nothing. You know, they kind of, uh, they, they, they experiment a little bit with Liam Eichenberg at center who was former second round pick. They drafted as a tackle, then moved to guard when he failed and now.


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[Assistant] Maybe to center if he fails again. Uhm, yeaah. They've got some Isaiah win action in there. I mean, there are some pieces in place, but there's like three offensive linemen on the team that you would be like, oh man, these guys are solid.


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[Assistant] And the rest are question marks. And so yea, to your point, it's funny, when they started this whole rebuild, don't call it a tank because Chris Gero loses his mind, but it was a tank. When they started this, they said, we're going to build through the trenches. And their very first draft pick was Christian Wilkins, which I think is, was a great pick. It's panned out. Fantastic. He's going to get paid in the next 12 months.


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[Assistant] But they never really figured out the offensive line. It wasn't from lack of trying. They, every year they would use a first, second or third round pick on an alignment, sometimes multiple.


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[Assistant] And they just whiff and whiff and whiff and whiff. And that's the reason they had to go and spend a fortune on Tehran Armstead, even though you knew you'd only get 12, 13 games out of him a year. I mean, that's, that's how desperate they are. They've been at that position. I think they're okay now. We'll see how Butch Berry does as an offensive line coach. Uh, they're on their like.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, I would say if you're gonna have, you're gonna list concerns for the Miami Northins, it's offensive line and it's a linebacker. Uhm, and, and, and beyond that, I think they're pretty stacked at every position.


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[Assistant] Uh, I mean, really, really good. Really, really good. They, uh, Joe and Ramsey that trade, Vic Fangio.


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[Assistant] If you want a sleeper, you know, buy, it's Javon Holland.


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[Assistant] Uh, first two years he was fine. Really good rookie year. He was okay his second year.


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[Assistant] He is stepping into and defense tailor made for a playmaking safety. And you look at the history of Vic Fangio, the safeties that have really balled out under him. He is the player I would watch for.


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[Assistant] Uh, but no, no, I totally agree. They've, they've got pass rushers. They gave up the farm to get Bradley Chubb. We'll see how that pans out. Uh, they have Jalen Phillips who they used a first round pick on a couple of years ago. Really good player. You look at his advanced metrics beyond the sacks. He's, he's very disruptive.


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[Assistant] Wilkins I mentioned, uh, and they, and they, they still have, uh, they still have some vets there that, that, that provides some depth. I know they like Sealer, Sealer a lot and Emmanuel Agua. So they, they're, their front four will not be a concern with me.


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[Assistant] Their back five won't be a concern of me either. It's the middle. That's really where if they can figure that out, uhm, the defense could be a top five, top ten defense.


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[Assistant] My home's in the AFC, like- Okay, alright, alright, so, I would say this, uhm,


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[Assistant] Yes, it seems a little bit ridiculous, but if they, if they make the playoffs, I think


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[Assistant] They'd be, they'd have as good a chance as anybody. Like I think they're, they'll have a bigger challenge getting to the playoffs than they will winning a playoff game.


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[Assistant] I think that just, you, you look at what they have, you mentioned Rodgers in there, uh, Josh Allen, we'll see, we'll see what's got, what happens with Steph Giggs, but they've, you know, the Patriots or the Patriots, they'll win seven, eight games just out of, you know, habit.


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[Assistant] But they have the NFC East and the AFC West and they have to travel to Germany. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what's crazy to me is their odds to make the playoffs I think are like minus 110, so they're better than even money to make the playoffs, but then 25 to 1 to win the Super Bowl, I think that's inverted. I think their bigger challenge is actually to get there.


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[Assistant] They gotta win the division, okay? That's the key, is they gotta get to 11 wins.


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[Assistant] Whichever one of those wins enough games in division, uh, to get to the playoffs, uh, will have a first round playoff game, obviously, and then will have to win one, if not two games on the road.


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[Assistant] How many teams have a better chance? And I think they were like nine. Are there eight teams that are more likely to win the Superbowl? I can only name two out of the NFC alone because if one of those two teams doesn't make it, they're going to get smoked in the Superbowl. They are. So yeah.


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[Assistant] If, if they win the division, and that's a big if, I think they have a real chance to make a run, yes.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Yeah. So I actually did a little research, believe it or not for the, this program. And I talked to, uh, my boss or chief content officer, David Behrman, who used to run fantasy at ESPN, uh, and now works at pro football network.


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[Assistant] Sorry, if you want to get crazy, yeaah, I would take the nine and a half. I take the over. If you want to get crazy, you can tease it to 11 and a half or plus 300.


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[Assistant] If you have a firm conviction that you think the, you know, the AFC West or the NFC East are not going to be as strong as they were last year, which is entirely possible, right? I mean.


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[Assistant] Do you, certainly the Giants are going to regress. We'll see. The Eagles have had a significant amount of turnover and they had just got the season of his life out of jail and hurts. Is he going to replicate that?


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[Assistant] You're betting, if you're betting against the Dolphins, you're betting on Russell Wilson, right? You're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're betting on Jimmy Garoppolo even being healthy in, in Vegas. Um, there are a lot of factors at play here. So, and you're betting on Mac Jones being able to throw the football, which he showed no ability to last year.


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[Assistant] So yeah, no, I like the nine and a half. I like the over. I think that this is the most talented Miami Dolphins football team we've seen a while. And if it was a normal year, if it was a normal year where you didn't have two juggernauts in the division and Bill Belichick looming, I think you would smoke that nine and a half.


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[Assistant] You're convinced that Rogers is going to make a difference, but he's not 2019 Rogers. And you're, you know, you, you, you, you have questions like I do about the bills. Look guys, I've watched the bills more than any team other than the Miami dolphins. I, three games I was in person for them last year. Right. And those three games were decided, excuse me, decided by.


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[Assistant] If you had this roster in this coach with any team that wasn't named the Miami Dolphins, you'd be bullish as hell. I think people are worried about the Miami Dolphins simply because they have a history of sucking and they've earned that reputation.


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[Assistant] They're really, really good, man. Their offense, again.


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[Assistant] All of these bets you need to take into consideration whether or not Tuesday is healthy.


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[Assistant] And if he doesn't stay healthy, all these bets, you just throw them in the trash can, right? But if you can get 14, 15, 16 games out of them and he's rolling healthy into the regular season, I'm sorry, into the postseason.


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[Assistant] There's no chance that they can't compete with anybody because they have. They have. They, they went to Buffalo with Skyler Thompson and was a, yeah, Mike McDaniel, if he had called the play on time, they probably would have beaten the Bills. They lost because they had to delay a game because they couldn't get their operations set.


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[Assistant] I-I-I-I'm telling you, I am fading the bills in 2023.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pick 6 podcast, CBS NFL podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Brady Quinn. We're sorry we're a little late today. We had some technical difficulties. It was not Brinson. I can see what you guys are saying in the chat right there.


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[Assistant] But today is our Brady Quinn football show. Make sure you keep it locked with us all week long. For more off-season news, remember to like, comment, and subscribe on the YouTube page. If you're listening to audio only, do the same. Download, follow, leave a five-star review, and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod, even


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[Assistant] If we're running a little bit late. Bella is always good to see you. Hopefully you had a good Memorial Day weekend. Uh, Brady, did you do anything fun with the kiddos?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I grew up on a country club as well and I've never heard of this, uhm, as what must be in North Carolina. By the way, it sounds fun though. It sounds fun and I feel like you would be very good at this, but I relate to what you said.


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[Assistant] This will be appreciated from everyone involved. But anyways, Brady, I was gonna say I relate to what you went through. My dog had stomach issues this weekend as well, so I could not go out and do things. Otherwise, uhm, I would have a quite messy apartment.


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[Assistant] Yes, yes. Well, it's human, usually, uh, in San Francisco, unfortunately, but I've been, uh, I'm actually, yeah, in, in New York and in Connecticut.


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[Assistant] Alright, you know, some of our favorite NFL players also had a really fun Memorial Day weekend. We pulled some clips. First off, A-Rod, lovin'.


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[Assistant] Lovin' the, uh, the, the Jets live, the New York live. He was at Taylor Swift's concert. Not once, but twice. Two nights in a row, jamming out. Uhm, it was quite the sensation on social media. You could see him there.


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[Assistant] Getting into his groove. We don't know if he's there on a date, if he's just there by himself, but I don't know. Have we ever seen Rogers look this happy?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well it must be a fun show. I think that Taylor Swift is dating, I don't know what his name is, she just broke up with her, logged her boyfriend, and now she's dating some musician. All of the Swifties are very up in arms about it.


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[Assistant] She's got a new boyfriend, he's a rockstar, but he's not someone that I am familiar with. I believe he is British.


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[Assistant] I'm surprised your daughters haven't forced you to listen.


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[Assistant] I don't know, it's possible. Alright, next up, George Kittle was at Bottle Rock this weekend and somebody gave him the microphone with some autotune. I don't know if we'll be able to listen to the audio, but he was singing Cher.


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[Assistant] Uh, Brady, would you ever get on stage and sing with an autotune?


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[Assistant] Okay, on that note, one more thing. Christian Watson was racing Simone Biles at AJ Dillon's Memorial Day party. And I actually haven't watched this clip, so I don't know who won the race. Uhm, and looks like we're not getting it up quite.


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[Assistant] Not yet, but who do you guys think won? Christian Watson or Simone Biles?


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[Assistant] Some, uh, football news. Obviously, I think one of the biggest things we heard this week, Jimmy G, my Jimmy Garoppolo failed.


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[Assistant] His physical, but I think the interesting part about this is the Raiders deal with Jimmy includes an injury waiver that was put in there to protect the team in case something goes wrong with his left foot. Brady, uh, what do you think of this situation and particularly the waiver?


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[Assistant] The Raiders delayed kind of the press conference and the announcement with Jimmy Garoppolo and some people didn't think it was a big deal and now obviously we see, uhm, that it is.


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[Assistant] You gave up on Derek Carr. You let go of Derek Carr who is a capable great quarterback.


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[Assistant] To pick up, and look, I'm a Jimmy Garoppolo fan, an injury-prone quarterback. Now Dom in the chat says that the 49ers didn't think it was Liz Frank, and then he went to the Raiders and it was a different story, but you get this injury-prone quarterback and then come to find out


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[Assistant] He's got this serious injury, didn't take care of it in the offseason earlier and now


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[Assistant] You might not have a quarterback to start, like what are they thinking?


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[Assistant] They are. We're going to get into some of those future odds and particularly the odds of who the quarterback will be for the Raiders, but we do have to take a quick break before we do.


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[Assistant] Let's talk about the Europa League. Sevilla have conjured magic on the way to a seventh Europa League final where they face the UEFA Trophy specialist Mourinho and his experienced Roma side in Budapest. Catch the Europa League final this Wednesday with coverage beginning at 2 p.m. Eastern on CBS Sports Network and streaming on Paramount Plus. You're watching Pick Six. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] All right, welcome back to Pig Six Podcast here with Brinson and Brady. Ooh, we did a little switchery there, now they're back. Uh, make sure that you are following us on social at Pig Six Pod across all social media platforms. All right, guys, let's take a look at some of these odds for the Raiders quarterback. Of course, Tom Brady at the top of the heap here with two to one odds and you got Brian Hoyer. He's five.


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[Assistant] Uhm, to two odds, that doesn't actually make any sense. Uhm, 37 years old, only three starts over the last five seasons, and you got Matt Ryan, who's five to one, Nick Foles, six to one, Aiden O'Connell, that fourth round rookie they picked up, Carson Wentz,


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[Assistant] And Andy Dalton rounding out at 10 to 1. It seems like Will is pushing the Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] narrative here, which just seems crazy to me because even if they vote on that, they're not going to approve that.


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[Assistant] Well, you know who's interesting that's not on this list is Jimmy Garoppolo. What are the odds that Jimmy Garoppolo gets cut, Brady?


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[Assistant] Alright, uhm, other big news that happened on Friday is that the Cardinals released DeAndre Hopkins. Now we were talking last week about the sweepstakes and


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[Assistant] You know, how Hopkins talked to the podcast and gave his list of things that he wanted in the next team, but I was still pretty surprised that the Cardinals just released him. I do know that he has a big contract, so maybe offloading that was a little bit too difficult. Uh, one Brady curious what you think about that, and then we'll go through some odds about where he ends up.


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[Assistant] On that note, we are going to take a quick break. You're watching Pick 6. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Fix6 Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Brady Quinn. Today is the Brady Quinn Show. Make sure you join us all week to keep up to date with all your NFL offseason news. And remember to like, comment, and subscribe on the YouTube page. Before we get out of here, let's just go ahead and take a look at some of those Raiders and Cardinals futures and weigh on on how this news


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[Assistant] At the Cardinals, we can start with the Raiders. Uhm, they are yes to make the playoffs at plus one, or what are we looking at here?


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[Assistant] Yes, uhm, alright, so y-yes or no to make the playoffs for the Raiders with... Oh, Jimmy Garoppolo?


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[Assistant] And then the Cardinals, they had the lowest season win total in all of the NFL. It was at five and a half. Now with the DHOP news, it's gone down to five. Are the Cardinals going to win any games this year?


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[Assistant] Okay, I like it. Alright, that is going to wrap up the show for us today. Make sure you join us Thursday, 1pm for more off-season coverage. Remember to like, comment, and subscribe on the YouTube page. If you're listening to audio only, do the same. Download, follow, leave a five-star review, and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. We'll see you next time.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pick 6 Podcast, TVSports NFL Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Brady Quinn. If you haven't already, make sure you like, comment, and subscribe on the YouTube page. Rate and review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. For those who missed the last episode, we looked


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[Assistant] At some of our favorite week one lines with JLC and today we're going to discuss.


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[Assistant] The depreciation of running backs with Grady Quinn and see who has the best odds for offensive rookie of the year.


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[Assistant] NBA title and uh, Jokic had something funny to say after they were asking him about going to the parade and he said no, that he wants to go home and


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[Assistant] You know, Instagram and Twitter is freaking out. People are saying he's boring. People are saying he's rude, that he doesn't respect the fans. I think it's hilarious.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, and play with his, uh, horses, right? He'd rather...


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[Assistant] Do y'all see the last game that was in Miami though that Conor McGregor punched out, and it was a bit, punched out the mascot, which, what is his name? Flamie? Or, uh, he's got a weird name, but he punched out the mascot, it was a little bit of a bit, and the mascot actually had to go.


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[Assistant] To the ER. Just for pain medication though. Oh yeaah, here it is.


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[Assistant] Okay, we're gonna move on, but I will say I was a San Jose Sharks fan for a very long time, and the, the LA Kings mascot, I don't know what his name is, but he's a lion, and he is extremely antagonistic. Like, I don't know if you've been to Kings games in LA, but they are extremely antagonistic to the other fans, and so he's one that I would probably punch at.


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[Assistant] You just have a sports family. Is there anyone in your family married or just birth to you that is not a sports superstar?


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[Assistant] Your wife, you, your brother in law, you just mentioned a hockey player.


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[Assistant] Well, obviously there's always people that you love, like Frank Gore is my favorite player of all time. So I was sad when they decided not to keep him and you know, when Moatstert moved on that way. Yeah, of course you like your players, but it's.


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[Assistant] I understand. If Christian McCaffrey leaves, that would probably be the biggest heartbreak because he is, like we've said on the show a million times, a Swiss.


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[Assistant] Is that the solution, Brady? Are running backs going to have to be more versatile, like a Christian McCaffrey, to get these more long-term, right, in quotes, deals from teams? Is that where the running back market is going?


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[Assistant] Alright, on that note, we are going to take a quick break. Coming up, did a first round draft pick. Take a shot at the GOAT of college football. As always, make sure you smash that like button, subscribe to our YouTube channel, and comment on this video. And also, you should check out the All Things Covered podcast.


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[Assistant] Troy Palamalu on their most recent episode. And it's one you don't want to miss. BMAC and Pat P uncover all sides of Troy like the ultimate competitor yearning for respect from Pittsburgh legends. The guy who rarely got mad, but when he lost it, he really lost it. And the sneaky prankster on the Steeler sideline catch the Troy Palamalu conversation wherever you find podcasts and on the All Things Covered podcast YouTube channel. You're watching Pig Six. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to Pick Six. Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Brady Quinn. Fellas, Jameer Gibbs seems to be enjoying the NFL a little more than he maybe enjoyed Bama. He said, with Saban, we're probably hitting every day. Full pads in the heat for two hours. Here, we get work in, but they don't try to kill us. He did.


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[Assistant] Uh, Brady, one, what do you make of this and what's really the difference between college practices and the NFL? Because I would think that the NFL would be tougher, but not according to uh, Gibbs here.


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[Assistant] Do you feel like sometimes the, like this seems like a shot at Nick Saban, which is maybe a little bit different, but sometimes these rookies start talking to the press and they say things that put a huge target on their back. Like what was it? Justin Fields in preseason a couple of years ago that said, oh, this is easier. I don't know what he said. And then he became like target number one the next week.


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[Assistant] This kind of comment to be like, oh, it's not that bad. Is that something where people are like, oh, I'll make it bad for you then.


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[Assistant] Let's, uh, look at some odds for who's gonna be immediately successful in the big boy league, right? Look at some offensive rookie of the year. And it's interesting because we were talking earlier about the veteran running back market struggling at two running backs went top 15 this year.


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[Assistant] One, do you think this will be a growing trend? Maybe not based on what we just talked about. And who has your money right now to be successful in the big boy league?


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[Assistant] Plus 900. I was just gonna say, I was looking at him on, shout out to Caesar, so he's at plus 900 here. Other books have him as low as plus 600.


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[Assistant] Sprinkle on the quarterbacks. Alright, let's talk about DHOP again, right? Because what else is there to discuss when it comes to free agency at this point?


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[Assistant] So we visited with the Titans, did not commit. Now he hopped, dehopped over to the Patriots. Titans seem to be pulling out all of the stops now. Do you think that this is maybe a bad look on Traylon Burke's former first rounder from a year ago that the Titans have been saying


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[Assistant] Is doing well, and you know, they think that he's gonna have a better year.


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[Assistant] First of all, too much influence over the locker room, clearly in like a negative way because you would want one of the leaders of your team to have a lot of influence over the locker room if it was positive.


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[Assistant] You could also have a bad breakup and get over it and then be amicable later. I mean, it has been a couple years.


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[Assistant] Either the Titans or the Patriots, when you look at the odds of the AFC South or the AFC East, does this change your mind on the division at all if DHOP goes to one of those teams?


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[Assistant] We're gonna take one more break. We're taking one more break. Coming up, Brady reacts to some NFL vets who played hooky from mandatory mini camp. You're watching Pig Six. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to Pick Six. I'm Katie Mox here with Brinson and Brady. Alright, so we have some players that skipped minicamp. You got Daniil Hunter, Lawrence Guy, and Saquon Barkley. However, Saquon Barkley is not under contract. He has not signed his tender yet. Uh, is missing mandatory minicamp a big deal? I mean, it says mandatory, so I think it would be a fairly big deal.


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[Assistant] I feel like it's like wipe your social media of anything team related and then don't show up. That's the 2023 mode.


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[Assistant] Yeah, hopefully, well, you should get some kind of commission on it if anybody takes it, but, uh.


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[Assistant] Well, you talked about the locker room a little bit in terms of like newer guys or rookies not learning some, you know, new plays or whatnot, but.


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[Assistant] Nobody wants to get involved with other people's monies and nobody wants to get involved with contracts, but is there ever like a little bit of a sour kind of taste in people's mouths when these things go far?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause you gotta drive with your right foot. I guess you could learn, teach your other foot.


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[Assistant] You don't ever accidentally hit them both at the same time, like in a panic? Wow.


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[Assistant] That actually sounds really fun. All right, that's going to wrap up our show today. Thanks for rocking with us. Rince and I will be back on Thursday for more off season coverage. As always, remember to like, comment and subscribe on the YouTube page.


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[Assistant] Joining us today for those of you who missed the last episode with 100 days coming up to the NFL season. We spent $100 each making our best bets that you can make right now. Today we're going to be talking about some NFL player props.


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[Assistant] Would you rather, you'll have to choose between, or rather, we will have to choose between. JLC, I haven't seen you in a while. I know you've been on the show multiple, multiple times, but not with me, so I'm so happy to see you.


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[Assistant] Thank you, Dom, but that's okay. I can, uh, I can figure that out. And also, you know, Brinson maybe wants to see Billy Joel or something.


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[Assistant] Very excited for that as well. And I'm very excited for this show. We are going to play a game of would you rather but football edition with some futures props starting off with some quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] And passing yards. The first one we're going to talk about is Joe burrow versus Josh Allen for who's going to have the most passing yards this season. Joe burrow plus 600, Josh Allen plus 1100, uh, JLC. Who would you rather or Brinson? That's what I was gonna say.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm gonna agree with Brynson on this one. I'm gonna go Burrow, and it's interesting because I went to go look at their individual prop lines for passing yards, and they're pretty even. You got Burrow, his line is set to 4,425.5, Allen 4,300.5. So they have Allen just as slightly higher, interestingly enough, than Burrow, yet, you know, Allen's at 11 to 1.


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[Assistant] Right, exactly. So I get what JCL is saying for sure, but I just think that Burrow, when you look at last season, he had, uh, 4,527 yards, I believe. Allen had 4,316. And when I compared them side by side, Burrow had Allen beat in pretty much every category except


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[Assistant] Allen to me is just one of the best dual threat quarterbacks. So I'm going to stick with a more kind of traditional pocket passer, but at 11 to one, when you look at where they are, I do think the JLC is on the right track here in terms of value.


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[Assistant] Moving on, we got Justin Herbert or Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, of course, uh, is the favorite in this category, plus 420. Then you got Herbert at plus 750. Looking at their prop lines, uh, Herbert is set to 4,325 and a half.


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[Assistant] Mahomes, 4750 and a half. So a huge discrepancy there. JLC, uh, are you going chalk here?


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[Assistant] I agree with you guys and I'm taking Herbert on this one plus the 750 and look it's hard to.


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[Assistant] argue against someone like Patrick Mahomes and I see Billy here saying Herbert over Mahomes is shocking and maybe it is because Mahomes has already had two seasons of breaking


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[Assistant] 5,000 yards in 2018. And then last year without Tyree kill, which to your point, Brinson is extremely impressive. And then you have someone like Herbert, who also has broken that threshold. He had 5,014 yards in the 2021 season. But then last year, the charges were decimated with injuries. He had that, what was that? A fractured rib cartilage, which I think


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[Assistant] affected him a lot more than maybe a lot of people knew, and he actually dropped on Gillian. 6.7 intended air yards per pass attempt last year. It was the third lowest in depth behind Matt Ryan and Daniel Jones, but he was still number two in terms of the amount of yards the entire season, 4,739. So for him to get over 5,000 again isn't really asking too much, especially when you think and you factor in Kellen Moore into the mix now. So I do think that Justin Herbert is going to have a great year this year, and yes,


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[Assistant] versus Tua, Lawrence plus 1500, Tua plus 1500. So same odds here. When you look at their prop lines, um, for their yards per season, you got Lawrence set at ni-


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[Assistant] Excuse me, 3950 and a half to a 3800 and a half. So, uh, Lawrence, a little bit more favored there. What do you think, JLC?


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[Assistant] The problem was is he had two concussions and we don't know how healthy he's going to be. If he gets another concussion, we don't know how long he's gonna last this season. There just seems to be so much more upside with uh, Sunshine or Trevor Lawrence. Last year he had 4,113 yards and I was looking at check down rates.


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[Assistant] And Lawrence had the second lowest check down rate last season at 3.4%. And if you look at the people that had the lowest, a lot of those quarterbacks were


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[Assistant] Duel threats, the mobile quarterbacks, the ones that could scramble really well, which is something that Lauren did. Lauren, excuse me, did. He had 11th. He was 11th in quarterback rushing yards last season with 291.


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[Assistant] I feel like when you look at these younger quarterbacks too, they scramble a lot more when they panic and don't know what to do as they get more comfortable in the pocket, they throw a lot more. So I think there's more upside for Trevor here and we're going to see some increase in yards per attempt and then total passing yards as well. Some positive.


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[Assistant] Regression for Lawrence, so uhm, I agree with y'all on this one.


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[Assistant] When, uh, when you look at all of these though, who would you say, who would you put your money on for the, uhm, and Billy, I don't know, can you put that back up on the screen, all of the odds there? Who would you say wins, uh, this category, JLC?


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, I'm gonna agree with Justin Herbert. The only problem I have with Justin Herbert is I feel like I


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[Assistant] Preseason, I picked the Chargers for a lot of things. Last season I picked them to win their division and look what happened. I think I also picked Herbert to go over or to win the passing yards and look what happened. Now he got injured, which I don't hopefully knock on.


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[Assistant] Would that doesn't happen this year, but it's just so hard to make futures bets on the chargers considering the chargers are going to charge and usually blows up in your face.


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[Assistant] Alright, well, we are going to move on now, guys. That was your passing yard matchups. We're gonna take a look at the ground game next and look at some TD season props. Do us a solid, hit that like button, subscribe to our channel, and comment on this video.


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[Assistant] And, uh, we are playing Would You Rather? Either or. And now we're going to go into rushing touchdown matchups. First up, we got Jalen Hurts versus Lamar Jackson. Jalen Hurts' line is set to 11 and a half. Lamar's set to 6 and a half. So would you rather go Jalen Hurts under?


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[Assistant] His eleven and a half at minus 135 or Lamar Jackson over his six and a half at minus 125. JLC.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I, I don't like this one either, but I am going to go Jalen Hurts under the 11 and a half for most of the reasons that JLC already


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[Assistant] Jaylen hurts, but to JLC's point, Lamar's never gone over seven. He hasn't done it since 2020. I believe he only had what, five?


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[Assistant] Happy attack? Fewer design runs for him probably, and like you said, OBJs, A flowers, so.


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[Assistant] For him to get seven, it just seems like that's just not the direction, uhm, that the Baltimore offense is going.


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[Assistant] Alright, moving on, we're looking at Joe Mixon, over six and a half rushing touchdowns, it's at minus 115. Or Christian McCaffrey, over six and a half rushing touchdowns, that's also at minus 115. JLC, give me McCaffrey, come on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I would agree with you guys. 13 games McCaffrey had with San Francisco last year. He had 13 touchdowns. Eight of those were rushing touchdowns. Of course, two of those came in the postseason. He averaged about 20 touches.


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[Assistant] You think about a 17 game season. He had six and just 13. And like you said, with all the quarterback question marks, who are you going to lean on the heaviest? Your Swiss Army knife.


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[Assistant] So it just seems to me that this is just a no-brainer to take Christian McCaffrey. Alright, moving on to the next one. We got Damian Pierce over five and a half. That's at even money. Or Brice Hall over five and a half. And that's at minus 115. JLC.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm going to go, uh, what did I go on this one? I think I went, yeah, I went Breeze Hall. Over five and a half at minus one fifteen. Obviously, Damian Pierce has the better value there at even money. But if you look at both of these coaches, actually, they both come from the Kyle Shanahan tree, which even though they are defensive minded coaches,


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[Assistant] Week one, and then you've got Pierce, who now has Singletary on the Texan, so he's gonna be splitting a lot with Singletary, so I just think there's more upside with, uh, with Breece Hall, so I'm going to go that way.


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[Assistant] Alright, this, this one is interesting to me because I was like, uh, both of them. Derek Henry over nine and a half minus one fifteen, or Jonathan Taylor over eight and a half at minus one fifteen. I think they can both do it, but JLC, who would you rather?


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[Assistant] I actually think both of these guys will go over it, but for the sake of this, uh, I took Jonathan Taylor. I mean, Derek Henry, the entire offense of the Titans runs through Derek Henry at 13 rushing touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Last year, Taylor only had four down from 18 in 2021, but of course he only played 11 games and there was all of that stuff that was happening with the Colts last year. You have to think there's some positive touchdown regression for Taylor here. It's the final year, I believe, right, of his rookie contract, so it's kind of a show up or put up.


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[Assistant] year for him. And to your point, uh, Brinson about a Shane's, uh, Steichen offense,


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[Assistant] I think that actually Anthony Richardson is going to be better, uhm, for Taylor here, because you saw Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders went, what, 13 rushing touchdowns last year in a Steichen offense, even with Jalen Hurts. I almost think a mobile quarterback is a good thing for him.


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[Assistant] Right, what did Jayaboo? Okay guys, we're gonna take a quick break, go watch Pick 6, we'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pick Six Podcast here with Jason LaConfora, JLC, and of course,


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[Assistant] Will Brinson and we are playing either or would you rather we went through quarterback passing yards and we did rushing touchdowns and now we're going to look at offensive player of the year odds. And again, we have matched these up. They're not necessarily right next to each other in the odds.


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[Assistant] Rather JLC and it's interesting because we talked about both of these guys in our last segments. Christian McCaffrey at 11 to 1 or Derrick Henry at 20 to 1. For OPOY. OPOY.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's hard to make the case for Derek Henry, you guys already. McCaffrey's also a Swiss army knife. He does it all. He can be a running back, a wide receiver, a quarterback. He can block. I believe in the NFC championship game he'd even changed his helmet because maybe they were going to put him in a quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it's too risky. So it's like you look at someone like that on a team like the 49ers that, you know, hopefully goes far yet again, uhm, certainly has the talent to do so. It's not an even, uh, match up here. Alright, moving on to the next one. We got Jamar Chase versus Justin Jefferson. Chase at 11 to 1, Jefferson at 12 to 1. JLC.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree with everything that you guys said. I think it's highly unlikely that he goes back to back for offensive player of the year. Also, the Vikings picked up what Jordan Anderson in their Addison.


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[Assistant] Yeah, in the first round, so that could possibly cut into some of Jefferson's targets, uh, a little bit there. And Jamar Chase, you all, you already know, I'm high on the Bengals this year. They're kind of my, I wouldn't call it a sleeper pick, but they're my pick to win, uh, the Super Bowl based on the odds. And I do think that Joe Burrow is going to have a great season. So Jamar Chase seems like the right


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[Assistant] Uh, pick for me. Uh, this one is interesting. You've got Devonte Adams plus 2000 or Jonathan Taylor.


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[Assistant] Plus 2000. Now, Devonta Adams might not have a quarterback, so it's going to make it hard for him, but JLC, what do you think?


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[Assistant] I'm going to agree with you, Jonathan Taylor. There's really no reason to, uh, give Devonte Adams the, uh, the vote here. No quarterback. Plus Devonte Adams isn't even that happy. He's, he's out there talking about how he doesn't agree with what they're doing there in Vegas. So it's going to be a tough season I think for Adams. So give me Jonathan Taylor. I already think that he's going to have a much better season than last year.


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[Assistant] Uh, you're a Ravens guy. I figure you're probably gonna go Jackson here at JLC.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree with both of you. I take Lamar, but I also, I was thinking the same thing, uh, Brinson, that I would, I would probably bet Lamar for MVP given everything that we talked about more than Offensive Player of the Year, but you bring a good point, uhm, if it goes to somebody else. Alright, when you look at all of these, who would be your bet for Offensive Player of the Year? Uhm, I'm going with Chase.


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[Assistant] That is a very good point. Alright guys, this is going to wrap up our show. JLC, thank you for joining us today. Brinson, as always, make sure you join us on Tuesday for more off-season coverage. Remember to like, comment, and subscribe on the YouTube page. If you're listening to audio only, download, follow, leave a five star review, and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. We'll see you tomorrow.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's going great, Katie. Uh, really excited to talk some Falcons football with you guys, enjoying the last little bit of, uh,


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[Assistant] I've kind of the dead period before training camp starts next week, but I'm really excited to get back out there, be around everybody and, uh, and see what all the talk is about.


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[Assistant] I mean, I do think, like you said, it's kinda coming out of the woods, uh, part of that was financial, part of that was just, you know, the natural ebbs and flows of life in the NFL, but,


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[Assistant] Really, you know, when Arthur Smith and Terry Fondo arrived here before the 2021 season, I think a lot of people did pencil 2023 because of the financial, uhm, I guess landfall that they got this off season and that they were able to spend, in my opinion, pretty wisely.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's been a while for the Falcons. It's been, you know, going on kind of like six years now that they've...


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[Assistant] Ben, uh, absent from the playoffs and the last two times they were in the playoffs, they made some noise. So it kind of felt like.


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[Assistant] From at least a fan perspective, okay, like things are building, the good times are ahead of us, not behind us, and...


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[Assistant] They have proven to be behind a lot of people here in Atlanta, but I think from an organizational standpoint, there are question marks, but


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[Assistant] If those questions get answered, this has the chance, uh, to be a team with the most upside of any that I've been around here in Atlanta, maybe since the 2018 season, which I thought was very talented, but then injuries.


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[Assistant] Really, really hurt that team just right from the jump. But if things break the right way for Atlanta this year, they can definitely capitalize on, like you said, a really weak division.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean that, that is the big question, right? And I went back and I recently rewatched his, his final four games, the four games that he started last season. He did get better in, in every single one of those starts.


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[Assistant] Still not perfect, right? Still some missed throws, still some missed reads, uhm, but


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[Assistant] The Falcons have said from kind of the jump since they drafted him, they've praised his leadership. They've praised the intangibles, his smarts, his ability to pick up and understand this offense, which is going to be big because it is a complex and complicated, um, offense and with a lot of moving pieces. And that's something Marcus Mariota did well last season was kind of the running the show and keeping everything moving smoothly. So if Desmond Ritter can do that.


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[Assistant] I don't know if he's the type of quarterback who is going to, at least in year two, elevate the offense, right? He's got the, he's got the tools required to be a decent quarterback in the NFL, but he doesn't have Patrick Mahomes tools, right? So he's, he's not going to be this type of


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[Assistant] We're building an offense truly around this singular type of talent this guy has.


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[Assistant] What I think he needs to do for the Falcons to be successful, and I believe he can do this, is he needs to play within and elevate from within the scheme, and not elevate it, not elevate the scheme as a whole, but kind of elevate the offense through the scheme because he's executing the scheme the way it's been designed.


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[Assistant] And so if he shows some of those flashes of improvement in the deep ball, his accuracy, uhm, kind of the timing, some of these small things that can be improved,


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[Assistant] Then yeah, again, I think that Desmond Ritter can be good enough to get Atlanta back into the playoffs in 2023. And, and if he's not, you know, they, they spent a decent amount of money on Taylor Heinecke as the backup. So they've got a contingency plan in place, but obviously they would like plan 1A Desmond Ritter to work out this season.


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[Assistant] I think he's an insurance policy in two ways. I think he's an insurance policy in case Desmond Ritter has them, you know, around 500 midway through the season and let's say he does get nicked up and he's got to miss two or three games and they don't want to absolutely


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[Assistant] Kind of turn things around to get the ship righted in a crucial year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that there is some element to Taylor Heinecke like that. Uhm, so for that reason, I'm not gonna say that they're gonna pull the plug.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't think they're committed to him for the full season if there is a chance for them to still make the playoffs. If he's truly kind of the one thing holding them back.


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[Assistant] Come, come mid season, you know, I don't know if they would be afraid to pull the plug at that point. Just right now, you know, it seems to be full steam ahead with Desmond Ritter.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was something that was a little bit of a surprise at the time. You know, I...


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[Assistant] My wife and I had our first kid in December and I know that Marcus, you know, and his wife had a child, uh, right around then as well. So as kind of a new father, like I could sympathize with him a little bit where it's, hey, you know, last four games of the season,


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[Assistant] Not a playoff team, you know, I just got benched. Do I really, am I doing the day in and day out grind that a football team, you know, and a football players is required to do?


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[Assistant] Or do I want to spend that time at home with a newborn and help out my wife and all of that? It's really easy to sit here and say, you know, yeah, you signed a contract, you got to be out there and be with the team. And that is probably the right answer.


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[Assistant] Maybe it did a lot to ingratiate players to Desmond Ritter because when he kind of, when the, the former captain, you know, is no longer around on the ship.


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[Assistant] Makes it a little bit easier to embrace the new one without being reminded of what you had or there's some disgruntlement in the room or anything like that. I think that Desmond Ritter could have benefited from some of the


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[Assistant] Coaching some of the advice, some of that leadership that, that maybe Marcus could have been around to provide. Uhm, but he does have former NFL quarterbacks like Dave Burgone and TJ Yates in the room as well. Uhm, and so.


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[Assistant] I think if anything, it just more tarnished Marcus Mariota's reputation and legacy here in Atlanta, and I think beforehand a lot of people considered him, you know, a pretty good guy, like didn't have too much


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[Assistant] You know, that just kinda continues on. But yeaah, I can't wait to see.


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[Assistant] I'm personally very excited because of what I think it's going to unlock creatively in what was already one of the most creative offenses in the NFL and particularly from a run game standpoint, which is, is boring, right? It's, it's much more fun to see kind of a creative, I think, passing attack than it is a creative run game. But when you watch the ways that.


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[Assistant] Arthur Smith and his offense were able to kind of manufacture leverage blocks for offensive linemen, which like that's not usually when you see kind of like a huge inside out blind side block on a, on a defensive end and it's a 300 pound guy doing it. But that's the situation that he was able to put his offensive linemen in, which really.


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[Assistant] Really kind of a dip at any period. And so you plug somebody like Bijan Robinson into the mix.


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[Assistant] I do wonder how much of this is he going to be a pure running back?


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[Assistant] Versus in the player, I know a lot of like Saquon Barkley comps and even Christian McCaffrey comps and both of those are warranted. I really like to think of him as kind of like a.


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[Assistant] And I, I think that if, if you've got Tyler Algier as your,


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[Assistant] Still your main running back, your early down running back. And he led the Falcons, you know, 210 carries last season. You've got court, Errol Patterson. I think they're going to probably give him the ball, hand off the ball to him a little bit less. I think they're going to use him in a little bit more of a gadget way than they did last season because he carried the ball 144 times.


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[Assistant] Bijan Robinson, where are those kind of carries coming from? There were three players, Mark Smariota, Caleb Huntley, Avery Williams, who combined for 183 carries.


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[Assistant] That's basically where I think Bijan Robinson fits in there. I would put a lot of those carries on his plates. You don't have to take too many away from your other two really talented players. But then I think he's going to essentially be at times like your number two or number three receiver.


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[Assistant] You didn't, you didn't see a ton of volume from him in the passing game last year at Texas, but that was kind of just because of what they needed him to be in that offense.


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[Assistant] The times that you did, and we saw the highlights, I mean, he is so effective in that aspect, and that is the part where I think you're really gonna see the Falcons unlock him this year. So it's gonna be just kind of an overall package that they're gonna be able to fold into an offense that


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[Assistant] They really do consider positionless. I mean, they consider everybody on this offense to be able to do kind of a little bit of everything and that's gonna give, you know, I think Arthur Smith this massive cheesecake factory type of playbook to work with and it's gonna be so much fun.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that kind of like San Francisco, the run game is the quarterback of this offense, right? Like it is the star of the show and everything else falls off of that.


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[Assistant] Really what, you know, I think, cause you're seeing across the league more defenses go to these, uh, cover two, cover four defenses to really prevent, you know, basically everybody in the AFC.


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[Assistant] But what I think the Falcons want to do is draw them out of that back into these single high looks that are much easier to attack because the simplicity is an advantage for the defense and it's why, you know, Seattle and their famous cover three because they had elite athletes and playmakers


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[Assistant] They knew what offenses were going to do to attack them because you know, the book on cover three is out there and cover one is out there.


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[Assistant] Because they also knew what teams were going to do, they could kind of bait them into it and then make these big plays. That's what bit the Falcons, I think, at the tail end of the Dan Quinn era is they didn't have the players to execute on the simplicity of that scheme.


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[Assistant] So the Falcons are aware that that is, they know how to attack those, those schemes and they're going to draw defenses down into the box with these single high safeties. Then they're going to let loose Kyle Pitts and Drake London and Cordell Patterson and these bigger bodied guys to go win these one-on-one matchups. And so, yeah, I think you're seeing the framework of how this team.


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[Assistant] wants to win and you talk about these one score games.


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[Assistant] Yeah, adding more of just, just playmaker. One more playmaker on this offense. And I, again, I think Bijan Robinson, like that is what I would call him, is he's just here to be a playmaker. He's here to hit some of these 40-yard touchdowns that they frankly didn't have a lot of last season.


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[Assistant] They get a couple more of those big explosive plays. And yeah, we're talking about a team that last year could have been in the playoffs. I mean, bring it back to quarterback. At the end of those first three games, I was reminded again, they lost that Saints game after going into the fourth quarter with a huge lead.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they shouldn't have won that Rams game in week two, but they did have the ball and they were driving and they could have won if Mark Smariota doesn't throw that pick in the end zone. And then, you know, kind of the third week, a similar story. So.


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[Assistant] That, that is a case where they're so, so close.


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[Assistant] Now can they just get over the hump? And I kind of feel like if they do, like I wouldn't be surprised if we are sitting here talking about the Falcons with kind of double digit wins because maybe when they come, they start coming in bunches.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would definitely lean towards the over, especially, you know, if you take a look at the Falcon schedule, it's not.


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[Assistant] Very much. So I, you know, I think that part of that again, it has to do with the division. The division, it feels very tight, right? Exactly like it was last season where you have three teams finished with the exact same seven and 10 record and then an eight and nine team wins the division.


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[Assistant] No, no, not too much, but yeah, Chris Alave is going to be so much fun. Uhm, but I just think that the, if we're looking at upside and we're looking at if a team could become the best version of itself.


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[Assistant] Which team wins the division? I truly do believe that the Falcons.


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[Assistant] Now, if you're telling me, all right, Bryce Young, let's say he becomes truly Bryce Young in the NFL, then yeah, like you could argue that maybe the Panthers have more upside or what have you. But again, like I said in the beginning, if some of these question marks go in the Falcons direction.


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[Assistant] Then yeaah, we're looking at a team that definitely I think is making some noise in the NFC this year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, because I think they're going to, I think they're going to win the NOC South. Uhm, and so for that reason, I mean, like if, if truly it's just a hundred dollars and I don't care, I'm.


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[Assistant] Probably picking Tampa Bay at this point, just cause the odds are awesome. It's a thousand then. It's a thousand. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Maybe we should, but I would say too that, that there's a chance that, you know, come week four, like Desmond, that, that Desmond Ritter Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] Feeling that you have is totally reversed, right? And so that's what I think. Again, I'm betting on is is Baker Mayfield. We know at this point doesn't matter. We don't.


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[Assistant] We haven't seen anything like 2-2 amazing from him yet, but he's...


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[Assistant] Only in a second year and I think the upside is there. So that again is what I would be betting on is I'm betting on not what they are right now, but what they can be come November, come December. And what we've seen from a coaching staff that I think is competent enough to get them to be playing their best ball kind of right at that time. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's an upside play for me, but I, I think this division is gonna be, once again, pretty, pretty muddled.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, that's a really good one. And I, I would, I wonder if that is what, why the line is what it is, right? Because you would think that for,


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[Assistant] You know, basically like the favorite I think right now for offensive rookie of the year as a running back, probably looking at like 1200, 1300 in a 17 game season.


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[Assistant] I would still take the over because I think the volume is still going to be there and that he is going to be.


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[Assistant] Good enough and injuries happen, right? You know, like the falcons have been.


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[Assistant] Very lucky on the injury front, uh, these last two years, but


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[Assistant] Running back position you never know and a loaded room can quickly become a pretty


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[Assistant] The red bear room, uh, very quickly in this league. So I do think that if Bijan Robinson stays healthy, stays throughout the season, that yeah, he's, he's going to be able to top this number on the ground.


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[Assistant] You are definitely right in that they have not had a great defense the last few years. Uhm, this year it definitely does feel as though things are trending in the right direction and pretty quickly.


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[Assistant] Light years better than what it has been in recent years. The kind of, maybe,


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[Assistant] Four through eleven players on the starting defense.


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[Assistant] You look up and down this defense now, and you do have guys like Bud Dupree and David Onyemata, and the front is so much better. Jeff Okuda, who you mentioned, like, he is going to be my X Factor, I think, for camp, the player that I just cannot wait.


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[Assistant] To get my eyes on because I loved him so much coming out of Ohio State and just how smooth and confident and everything I would want in a corner. I totally got why he went third overall.


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[Assistant] Coming off of his best season as a pro and a lot of that has to do with injuries, can he build on that? Can he look like 80% of what we saw coming out in the draft? And if he can, then yeah, it's going to be kind of tough to necessarily find a true weakness on this Falcons defense, which if you'd have told me that,


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[Assistant] At the end of last season, like going into this year, we will be able to say there's just not a real weakness on this defense.


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[Assistant] I'll take it. You know, we may still be another offseason or two away from saying that this defense is a strength, but if they're 16th to


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[Assistant] 13th in the league and the Falcons offense is kind of what it has been the last two years, then I think that's a recipe that the Falcons will absolutely take.


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[Assistant] The gang is back together again and today is our NFC one big thing show. One big thing. What does that mean? But we'll tell you in a little bit. Make sure you keep it tuned with us all week long for more off season news. Remember to like, comment and subscribe on the YouTube page for everyone listening to the audio version only do the same download, leave a five star review, follow, tell your friends to listen and watch the pod.


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[Assistant] Okay, well, my, my, my take on this was that it was a little bit more subjective. It could be a hole that the team needs to fill, and these are all teams in the, uh, NFC, everybody, we did the AFC show a while ago, or one big takeaway.


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[Assistant] Well, uh, we're, we're glad at least today that you have missed us a little bit until, uh, until you don't again. All right. So one big thing and Brinson, we're going to start with you. So hopefully you came prepared, even though you didn't exactly know what one big thing was. You have the NFC South. Kick it off.


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[Assistant] Well, we know that you don't watch when you're not on, so we're not entirely surprised.


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[Assistant] That makes me feel better about people seeing me every day. That's great.


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[Assistant] Uh, I will side with Brinson here. I'll take the Falcons.


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[Assistant] While Brinson, Brinson was all over the Eagles last year, guys.


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[Assistant] We're gonna take a quick break here. When we get back, we're going to have a breach to the NFC North. But before we take this break, it's major time on the golf calendar.


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[Assistant] And the First Cup Podcast has you covered with comprehensive coverage of the PGA Championship from Oak Hill Country Club in New York. Kyle Porter, Rick Gaiman, and the gang from Daily Recaps.


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[Assistant] And the gang for daily recaps from Rochester. Oh, join the gang for daily recaps from Rochester as they follow the sports top stars on their quest to make the Wanamaker trophy. Download and follow the First Cup podcast wherever you find this one. You're watching Pick Six and we'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pixix Podcast. We'll start to, where'd Brinson go? Oh, there he's coming back. Hello Brinson, welcome back.


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[Assistant] Never left. Uh, if you're not following us on social, please do at pick six pod across all social media platforms. We'll have to have a tally and how many times I can mess up a promo on this show, but until we do that.


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[Assistant] Wow. Wins over Wilson. Okay, so starting with the 49ers.


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[Assistant] Yes, I know that the biggest need is a quarterback, but quarterback drama aside, right? Is it going to be Purdy or Lance or Sam Darnold?


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[Assistant] And Brinson, I know that you're worried about the defense taking a step back under Steve Wilks. I'm not so worried about that, where I feel like the 49ers have the biggest hole or question mark.


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[Assistant] Niners let McGlinchey go in free agency, which I think if you ask any Niner fans, none of us are too worried about that. You look at where all of the injuries came from. It came from the right side.


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[Assistant] They didn't draft an O-lineman, they got Joey Fisher as an undrafted rookie free agent, who I believe is actually a right guard, but he didn't really make it through minicamp because he's so behind on his conditioning, which is concerning.


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[Assistant] If McKivitt's is a bust, the Niner season is in jeopardy. So for me, outside of the quarterback drama, which of course, right tackle is the biggest whoopsie.


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[Assistant] Well, look, I am, like you said, I am a glass half full person. I always believe that my team can win until the last second. I don't get down on them. I don't start talking negatively. I would say the last time that I was actually down on this team.


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[Assistant] Was when they were pushing out Harbaugh and everybody, you know, hated the GM. We all hated Trent Balke. Like when the people at the, like I have so much trust in John Lynch. I have so much trust in Kyle Shanahan. I trust that they are doing the right things. If I don't trust the people at the top, that is what causes me to not hate my team, but be disappointed in my team.


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[Assistant] Good, good job Broncos paying him a lot of money. We'll see how that works out. Alright, so Seahawks next.


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[Assistant] So they're, I think the Seahawks are actually in pretty good shape. They signed Geno. They added to their already pretty stacked secondary in both the draft and free agency. They picked up one of the best receivers in the draft and Smith and Jigba.


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[Assistant] Uh, the weakest spot for them I think is their front, that front seven. They had, what, only four D linemen coming into the draft. They picked up a few guys later in the rounds.


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[Assistant] But they had seven D linemen play at least 149 snaps last season. They're only going to have about five ready to start in week one. So I think they need to add a veteran to the D linemen, to the D line.


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[Assistant] Alright, moving on to the Rams. Uh, we talked about selling your souls. The Rams sold their souls and their future just to win a Super Bowl in their home stadium.


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[Assistant] And they had the worst post-Super Bowl championship team in NFL history, I believe. They went five and 12 last year.


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[Assistant] Oh yes, I forget. We are, we are Rams apologist here on the show. Yes.


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[Assistant] And, uh, sure, I'm sure a lot of, they, they are, they are the model of how to do that correctly. You got your Super Bowl, but then now there's like two or three years out from being a championship team again. I feel like they had a very sensible draft. They added some depth at positions, not necessarily starters.


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[Assistant] But the loss of Bobby Wagner, only having him for one year, I think is actually going to be huge. They didn't draft a true inside linebacker. And I'm not sure that Ernest Jones is going to be the guy. So I feel like that is their biggest question mark.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to Take Six Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson, Ryan Wilson, and John Breach. And today is One Big Thing from the NFC. That's our show today. Make sure you keep it locked all week long for more NFL offseason news. And remember to like, comment, and subscribe on the YouTube page.


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[Assistant] Wilson with arguably, or not even arguably anymore, the best division in football, the NFC East.


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[Assistant] You know the quarterbacks don't matter and you could still win games without your quarterback?


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[Assistant] Alright, that is going to wrap the show today on behalf of Brinson Wilson, Breach and Mox. Thanks for joining us today. Make sure you keep it locked or actually tune in again on Thursday at 1pm for more off-season coverage. Remember to like, comment and subscribe on the YouTube page. If you're listening to audio, do the same thing. Download, follow, leave a five-star review, tell your friends to listen and watch the pod, and we'll see you Thursday.


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[Assistant] You don't want to see what my hair would look like right now without any product in it. I'll tell you that much.


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[Assistant] It would be, it would not, it would not fit in this screen. Height wise.


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[Assistant] Well, uh, my freshly printed article, which teams will make the NFL playoffs, which new teams will make the NFL playoffs, teams that didn't make it last year is, uh, is up on cbsports.com right now, went up, um,


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[Assistant] Like two hours ago maybe. And what I think is interesting to note is that


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[Assistant] You know, for years we've said five teams in five teams out. That's sort of the number that happens, right? Well, we're in a short sample size period right now because, um, of the two years that we have with the expanded playoffs and 2021 was coming out of COVID. So you had a very weird, you know,


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[Assistant] Uh, people like, like the teams that made the playoffs in COVID were, it was like Washington and the Browns. And it was just like a, it was a weird year. And then the following year we expanded the playoffs and we got seven new teams. And then last year we also got seven new teams. Now.


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[Assistant] I would guess it would probably end up sinking back down towards maybe six, um, over the course of the long haul. But I think we're in this spot where, you know, it's not a reasonable, like I did the list and I came up with seven easy and I didn't list the Colts.


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[Assistant] I do think Indianapolis could be a sleeper playoff team. If Anthony Richardson, if Shane Stike in fashions, an Eagles light or Eagles like offense with Anthony Richardson and they come out of the gates and he is


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[Assistant] Much more polished than people expect. And we've seen flashes of you watch his tape. You can see he can move around the pocket.


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[Assistant] Pretty well, really well, you know, he's obviously got insane athletic upside. It's just the accuracy with the throws that people are worried about. Sometimes we see it where the guy's college production doesn't end up matching. Like, like, like Justin Herbert's a great example and that he wasn't like that wildly inaccurate, but like he got in the pros. It was just like, oh my God, that's a different guy. It was his college offense holding him back.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying that's the case with Richardson, just it's worth thinking about.


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[Assistant] Could the Colts make the playoffs? Yeah. Um, I would rather gamble on the Panthers who I think are a really good bet to make the playoffs personally. Um, Carolina is


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[Assistant] Perceived when we start doing this as a team that had the first overall pick, because that's where they took very strong, but they're really, they're the ninth overall pick. I mean, this is a team that's closer to the middle of the pack.


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[Assistant] Then they are the, the bottom of the barrel and you're in the NFC South, a division where Tom Brady's no longer there and the Saints.


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[Assistant] I don't think are the scariest people make him out to be your plus 175 to make the playoffs and the NFC as a whole is very watered down. I love the Panthers at plus 175 to make it and.


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[Assistant] I've been beating the Texans, uh, you know, I've been driving the Texas bandwagon all season. I'm not going to stop doing it now. I don't love CJ Stroud as a prospect personally, but I do love Bobby Sloak as the offensive coordinator. I think their offensive line is very good. Uh, Damien Pearson, Devin Singletary give them a nice one, two punch at running back. The receiving group has a nice floor.


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[Assistant] Um, with, you know, Robert Woods would be great and a great blocker, a nice steady veteran presence for Stroud. You have Dalton Schultz. I don't think he's getting enough attention as an ad there. And then, you know, a couple with Will Anderson and a bunch of the veteran players. They added this all season on the defense plus to Miko Ryan's coaching it up and six 50, six 50 to make the playoffs. Oh yeah.


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[Assistant] Can't count me in on it. When they're nine and a half to one to win the division, you get 650 to make the playoffs. You get the wild cards built in. I think I'd go playoffs.


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[Assistant] I think any one of the four teams, the AFC South is once again, very interesting breach because any one of those four teams could win that division and steal a playoff spot. I don't think we'll get two of them.


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[Assistant] If the Panthers and the Bengals, I'll tell you what, I will guarantee I'll make this bet for breach right now for me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it breach an eye. So if the Panthers and the Bengals play in the Superbowl,


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[Assistant] And obviously CBS is going to have to, at that point, make, let me and breach go to the super bowl. Not just no breach and I will wear.


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[Assistant] The actual game to the game to cover the game for CBS Sports.


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[Assistant] Breach and I will wear matching cat print Dumb and Dumber tuxing base.


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[Assistant] Well, I just think like we could be, but like we would be walking around like the stadium in like, where is it? Vegas.


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[Assistant] We're gonna print tuxedo and breach we're gonna orange bingles like leopard or like bingo print tuxedo cat tiger print tuxedo and we will wear those in the game or we'll wear those all week during the cbs the pixix podcast show on cbs sports HQ assuming they don't cancel us.


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[Assistant] He lost a bet. He lost a bet. A bingo Steelers game. He said there's no chance the Steelers would lose to Ryan Finley on that Monday night game. They did and he got a tattoo.


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[Assistant] Uh, he chose to be Joe Cool, Joe Burrow. We'll get into the minutiae later.


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[Assistant] The, yeah, sorry. The, the breach thing threw me for a loop there. Obviously I will say that this one's easy for me.


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[Assistant] I'm all in on the Atlanta Falcons, uh, this year plus one 65 to make the playoffs. I think it's a pretty good number, you know.


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[Assistant] The saints, to me, to me, the situation with the saints and their success.


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[Assistant] Success last year, uh, winning the division with Sean Payton the last time he was there.


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[Assistant] They haven't been very good since Drew Brees and Sean Payton left, is what I'm trying to get at here, Katie. And people are just giving the Saints this division. The Buccaneers, 8-9 last year with Tom Brady, now have Baker Mayfield behind a questionable offensive line.


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[Assistant] And Desmond Ritter and then in Taylor Heinecke is a backup. They have two guys who are going to run the system that Arthur Smith wants to run and are going to operate in a manner like Tennessee light, the Titans light when they had Derek Henry and they had Ryan Tannehill and they were a run the ball and play defense team. Now.


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[Assistant] Is Bijon Robinson, Derek Henry? No. Do I have an affinity for Bijon Robinson? I do. Uh, that aside, this offensive line, they signed Caleb McGarry and Chris Lindstrom to, to extensions this off season. They beat it up. They, um,


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[Assistant] They brought in, uh, the gentleman from, uh, I'm drawing a blank on his name or some Syracuse. The, uh, is it Bergeron?


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[Assistant] That is the running guard who, yeah, Matthew Bergeron, excuse me. He comes in. So you've got this offensive line. That's very stout. You've got a, um,


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[Assistant] Great running back in Bijon Robinson and you have a defense. I think that is going to be a little bit better than people give it credit for David on the Monica is Campbell added Grady Jarrett back bud to pre added. Jesse Bates added. I mean, look, you know, you pick up my cues and Jeffer Kudu as well to sort of solidify that spot aside from AJ Terrell or Terrell. Excuse me. This is a defense that if


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[Assistant] If Ryan Nielsen is a good at his defensive coordinator, I think the Falcons can be a pretty good defense. I think the running game can be pretty good. I don't think they're going to like blow people away or dominate a bunch of games, but I think they're going to be like a


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[Assistant] I love the Falcons in this spot and then the Jets have Aaron Rodgers. That seems self-explanatory. I'll take them over the Bears.


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[Assistant] Dustin feels there's 25 starts this season. Every 25 starts in his career, excuse me. Of those 25, how many games do you think he has over 300 yards passing? Uh, I think it's zero, isn't it? That is correct.


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[Assistant] Of those 25 starts, how many do you think are over 200 yards passing?


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[Assistant] First overall, were they really the ninth pick and then they traded up?


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[Assistant] Remember the Bears were the first, had the first overall pick. They were the worst team in football last year. This is not a team near the middle that was picking ninth. They were the worst team in football. And I think it was, anyway.


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[Assistant] The Bears could take a step forward, but I think the Bears could also take a step forward without making some massive improvement. Yeah, as Billy points out, they have Chase Claypool.


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[Assistant] Yeah, obviously it was Trayvon Walker. God, that feels like 42 years ago. Sorry. Um, yeah. When I was born, uh,


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[Assistant] If you say Musa's name three times, if you say, if you say the bear suck, the bear suck, the bear suck, Musa magically appears.


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[Assistant] By the way, uh, speaking of the PTA championship, kind of crazy. So South Florida, uh, our research team did a great job with this. Uh, they always do fantastic work, but like South Florida would be the first metropolitan area to have a NHL and NBA champion.


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[Assistant] Probably yeah. And you have to win the cup. Um, but of note to South Florida had two teams in the final four back in April and Brooks Kepka is a South Florida guy who just won the PGA championship. Like what a run for South Florida. What a bunch of deserving quasi interested fans. They have something.


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[Assistant] Uhm, no, it's not so much that I don't like the Raiders, it's that, uhm,


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[Assistant] I've sort of taken this stance against the Browns and I'm kind of leaning into it and going to war with the city of Cleveland. Browns fans have, so like I'm the type of person where if you attack me, I'm not going to cave and allow you


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[Assistant] And I'm speaking specifically to a fan base, but I mean, this could happen with like people in general too. I'm a very stubborn human being.


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[Assistant] The phrase that I've been throwing out there that I've enjoyed, a three-toed sloth can count on one foot how many times the Browns have had a winning season since 1999.


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[Assistant] So, you know, uh, and that's, that's three guys.


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[Assistant] Browns fans came at me and went on, uh, with our buddy Ken Carmen, our pals, Ken Carmen, Anthony Lima on, uh, 92.3 the fan. It was actually like hyped up to be like all at war, uh, where, you know, and like Ken is a passionate guy. Like listen to the podcast. Awesome, dude. He's been on the podcast. Um,


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[Assistant] And yeah, at the end of it, it'd be like a good discussion. My point is just like.


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[Assistant] People are so mad about 7 and 10 for the Browns. I mean, that's just not that crazy. Also, when you start making these predictions and projections about NFL teams before the season, like 7 and 10 is not that far off from 10 and 7.


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[Assistant] Does it feel far apart? Of course, because seven and ten is missing the playoffs. People get fired. Ten and seven is contract extensions and postseason. There's a gulf in terms of how it's perceived. But in terms of the actual how you get to those two different results, seven and ten and ten to seven are not that different. I mean, you're talking like,


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[Assistant] Like as Kevin, as Kevin Costner likes to say in 10 cup, August from the gods cost me, you know, like that's like, all you need is like a gust of wind to blow a field goal to the right of a fumble that the other team recovers. Um, you know, the ball bounces.


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[Assistant] Straight out of the back of the end zone instead of going right and it's, you know, the other team's ball, the toy, you know, like there's just football is a weird game played with an inflatable pig, but that's, that's oblong shaped. Okay. So like when the ball bounces in funky ways, we shouldn't be surprised in seven and 10 is not like a miserable season. Brown's fans. Uh, that being said,


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[Assistant] Obviously I'm going to take the Broncos because one, you have Sean Mc- Sean Payton. Yep. And that was the end of it. Two.


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[Assistant] That's the end of it. Sean Payton. Uh, I'm also going to take the Browns because I want Cleveland fans to leave me alone and I'll let you defend your Raiders, Katie.


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[Assistant] Breach your, your, your Broncos you picked up in the Super Bowl last year. Whoopsie! Uh, plus 175, pretty good value to make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Katie, let's say that Russell Wilson and Jimmy Garoppolo got traded for each other, just straight up deal. Don't, don't worry about the ramifications of salary cap space, but Jimmy G's a Bronco. Um, obviously we know you will then be picking the Broncos to go to the playoffs. I'm wondering what you would do with the Raiders if they swapped out Jimmy G for Russell Wilson, knowing that, you know, I mean, like just


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[Assistant] Like I'm sort of trying to, I'm trying to strip away to an objective.


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[Assistant] Nathaniel Hackett, ironically involved in both of these, Nathaniel Hackett to Sean Payton or Zach Wilson to Aaron Rodgers.


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[Assistant] It's probably Russ. I mean, probably Aaron. Excuse me. Uh, probably Aaron because Zach is that bad.


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[Assistant] But like we have a baseline for Nathaniel Hackett and it's what Russell Wilson did. Wow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's just recalling that Russ gets worse this year and the Broncos own the first round pick next year. That would be wild.


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[Assistant] Would be really interesting if Sean Payton and the Broncos had the first overall pick with Russ's contract that they can sort of kind of get out of and Caleb Williams sitting there, but it would be very, very interesting.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to agree with breach and say true. I am a little worried that one of those was like 91 and we're going to get banged on that.


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[Assistant] Cowboys. Super Bowl III? Super Bowl III? Jets?


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[Assistant] That, that'd be Mark, it's Mark Rippon, right? Is that, what year is that? Is that 91?


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[Assistant] This is basically like, I don't know how, I mean, I don't know if y'all remember this or not, but like at one point during this.


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[Assistant] Uh, I, I don't know if it was CBS or NBC was doing the Super Bowl, but Fox decided to run a concurrent.


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[Assistant] Featuring, uh, back then it was Jim Carrey and the Wayans Brothers on In Living Color. It was a Fire Marshall Bill skit. Like, do you know how insane that is? Fox was like, F it. We're doing In Living Color at halftime at the Super Bowl, even though we don't have the Super Bowl. They would get electrocuted right now if they tried to do that instead.


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[Assistant] It's early, so I don't think there's anything too much to be concerned about. You can see him out there on the field. He is walking around. It wasn't like they took him off on a stretcher or something, and he's there talking to his boy's buddy Nathaniel Hackett, so.


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[Assistant] A little bit of cause for concern if you're the Jets only because this is the reality. He is older. Uhm, you run more of an injury risk with an older player, quarterback probably more so.


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[Assistant] You know, again, it's still early in the year. Uh, and I think if you're a Jets fan and you're like, see, this is why we should have gotten, you know, I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] And it's because they have Aaron Rodgers. If you don't take that risk...


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[Assistant] Then you're not one of those 68 teams. And so the rest of the leagues can talk about it, but the truth of the matter is, unless it's Mahomes, Rogers, Allen, Burrow, Jackson, you know, unless those are your quarterbacks, you probably really don't have a shot.


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[Assistant] I'm telling you, if the NFL really want to start tweaking things to make it interesting, just re-seed.


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[Assistant] I know the NBA talked about doing it, but like re-rack, like let's just forget about the conferences once we get there. I know no one's going to buy into this, but it would, it would actually equate to finding out.


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[Assistant] True team to win it, right? Where sometimes you look at the AFC Championship game, we go, uh, maybe that was the better of the two games. So.


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[Assistant] That is true. Then when you, you count up the rest of the Super Bowls, the Jets of one, you kind of go, all right, maybe there's got a better shot than people realize. So.


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[Assistant] Exactly. The Eagles were part of that group and we also included San Francisco and it really isn't, I mean, now you'd say it's Jalen Hurts and that roster, but you would have said last year is cause the roster was that good.


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[Assistant] And I think the Eagles, we've made that case and, and not to upset Eagles fans, but if you don't think they have an easier path through the NFC, you're out of your mind. Like you're at, you're, you're lying to yourself. You, you, you probably have unrealistic thoughts about a lot of other things in life. If you don't think it's an easier path, when we just listed out the teams that you've got to go through in the AFC versus the NFC.


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[Assistant] Well, I got to know Jim Brown, you know, he was there, uh, heavily involved with the Brown's organization. My first couple of years, he would always be around, uh, Brea where the facility is there, uh, near Cleveland. And, um, just, uh, I mean, first off, he was one of the, one of the, one of the greatest athletes forget football for a second.


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[Assistant] Understanding branding and marketing and just talking to you about, you know, your image, especially being drafted to Cleveland as a first round pick.


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[Assistant] So uhm, he lent a ton of advice, uh, I would call him a mentor for sure.


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[Assistant] I think the toughest part for him was seeing a team that when he was a part of it had so much success and he was a part of that success and then seeing a team that when they decided to come back as an expansion team could never really find that identity that I think he knew and that he brought to the team.


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[Assistant] And so that was, that was probably the toughest thing I think for him to try to be a part of and witnesses. It was just so much turnover. There's so much adversity, so many other things. He was always.


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[Assistant] That voice of, of reason, the voice of sanity to me, where if I was having any, anything I was struggling with, you just go talk to Mr. Brown and he would give you some, some.


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[Assistant] So uhm, I was incredibly sad to hear the news. Uhm, just a tremendous human being and obviously I was a compliment. You're well documented. So really, really sad to hear of this.


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[Assistant] Any given Sunday, I mean that had a role. I was like, all right, that's the bad ass that like I would want as a coach, especially on that side of the ball. So he's got some really quotable lines in that one. But, um, I mean, and that's the thing is it was crazy to think like he decided to stop.


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[Assistant] His career short. You know, he, he, you know, obviously had a disagreement with Art Modell.


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[Assistant] It's really the high tide that raises all boats, especially for quarterbacks. And the reason being is the rule never should have went away. I've never understood why they got rid of the rule. My only explanation is it was a small cost cutting measure, even though you're only talking about


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[Assistant] You know, 32 positions potentially, usually a backup that would be in this third string role is, is one of a couple types of quarterbacks. It's either an older experienced veteran that, you know, you're looking at as a kind of a mentor in that room.


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[Assistant] And everything else and the quarterback coach is not so much geared towards development. He's geared towards, you know, trying to help, uh, the team win. And so he's more focused week to week on the schematic game plan that's involved in that.


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[Assistant] And so you need kind of have that veteran presence that's in the room. So if the quarterback who's starting, isn't that.


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[Assistant] A lot of times you look at kind of that third string guy as a guy that can come in potentially, you know, get you out of a game, get you out of a bind, but it is more of that just steady veteran presence. And that might come with a little higher cost.


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[Assistant] And maybe they'd say, Hey, we'd rather use that on a different position. We'll stash, you know, a developmental guy on the practice squad. Give us an extra arm there.


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[Assistant] I know some of those rules were changed, uh, for the practice squad eligibility, uh, due to COVID. Uh, but I think through COVID, because that rule was taken out subsequently to CBAs ago,


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[Assistant] They might have rethought that and said, this is actually something that we really need. We've got a shortened off season. We don't get development much more with many positions anymore. And quarterback is such a unique position that is such a developmental spot.


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[Assistant] Um, and so all those sorts of things become a little bit more important, but so this is good for the league. And when you think about it, the fact that the league got, got rid of it in the first place.