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[Assistant] Robert Kraft's gonna induct him into the hall of fame at halftime when he's the quarterback for the Jets when they meet in a few weeks. That's what's gonna happen.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I will say, so outside of Tom Brady, which would be a super duper long shot, but my god, that would be crazy.


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[Assistant] You know, you're looking at a trade they would have to make. There's Jamis Winston, Teddy Bridgewater, Andy Dalton. Uh, those are probably your best options and none of those are great options. And this is coming from the former president of the Andy Dalton fan club.


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[Assistant] Did uh, what's up? Deuce and I are stuck in closets right now.


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[Assistant] Lack of offensive firepower and scoring and all of that. I mean,


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[Assistant] That's one potential explanation for it. I mean, outside of Patrick Mahomes, who else would you see as a starting quarterback right now as a bona fide Hall of Famer?


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[Assistant] I mean, we'll see, right? Uhm, and so you kind of leave that question out there and see how people absorb it. I think there's guys who are on their way, but there's...


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[Assistant] There's questions, right, about like where the quarterback position is at.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I have always felt, and Lijay, this is what I'd like to kind of throw it to you, is there has been, for a long time now, uhm,


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[Assistant] And it's twofold. It's lack of offensive linemen and the way offensive linemen are being coached. I think that directly plays a result in all of this.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because of so many things, the spread offense, we're talking about junior high, high school level.


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[Assistant] Seven on seven being more, you know, prominent than actual tackle football at a lot of youth levels. That's had its effect and impact trickling up.


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[Assistant] And so I think offensive line play because of the cut down off seasons and cut down hitting and all that has also suffered due to that.


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[Assistant] Do you see that sort of thing? Because I know I see it in film when I go watch high school games, when I go watch college games now.


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[Assistant] You know, you don't want to put yourself in position when you've got guys who are isolated, uh, out in space.


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[Assistant] We've seen a lot softer coverage. We've seen a lot more probably drop eight, uh, forcing quarterbacks to have to be patient and have to actually read what the coverage is. So there's some scheme to it as well. I mean, I would say this too, you know, RPO, the run pass option, that's so prevalent in college football.


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[Assistant] You can't really do it at the NFL level. And it's a big adjustment, I think, for, uhm, quarterbacks who now can't solely look at one defender to get a read of what they're going to do with the football. Either handing it off or pulling it and throwing it.


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[Assistant] In the NFL, it's one and it's much more strictly enforced too. So you've got all of these things that add up, you know, soft coverage, the rules and all that. And I also think how quarterbacks are being taught is very, very different.


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[Assistant] Than how it was when, when I was growing up, playing more under center.


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[Assistant] You know, 60 plus, 65% of the snaps are now taken from Shotgun.


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[Assistant] But, you know, I grew up, you know, and went to Notre Dame and was playing in a West Coast offense. We had a three, five, seven step drop and different things off of that.


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[Assistant] And the reason why that's important because you had a sense of timing and rhythm so you could throw with anticipation within that.


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[Assistant] And you just don't see that anymore. That's something that you always hear as a, you know, a plus for a quarterback coming to NFL level is, hey, throws with anticipation.


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[Assistant] And you, you bring it up when you're analyzing college quarterbacks cause you're like, yeah, not many dudes do it anymore.


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[Assistant] Because it's not a part of the offense. Whereas when you're under center, you knew on three, your foot hit the ground, man, that ball was coming out. There's no hitching, there's nothing else. When you knew there were certain plays, by my fifth step, I know I'm throwing to number, my first read or not. And as I hitch up, I'm going to two, the next hitch is three, four,


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[Assistant] All three of your drops, same thing with a seven step drop. But by when I get to my seventh step, I know whether or not I'm throwing to the first, first, uh, uh, reading the progression.


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[Assistant] So there's all these things that I think over the course of time, because of the style of offense that we're running, you know, going back into shock and all these things.


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[Assistant] anticipation that the game used to be played by. And I think the stat that stands out the most to me is the red zone in particular. When you look at the red zone offensive efficiency,


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[Assistant] Averaging about 3.2 yards per play, about 50% efficiency. It's now down to about 45, 46, about 2.8 yards per play. So you got a spread out offense that's not running the football as effectively. And then down in a short condensed portion of the field, quarterbacks aren't playing with as much timing and rhythm.


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[Assistant] And anticipating windows like they have to down in that portion of the field. So I think you're starting to see a number of these things display themselves so far this year. And by the way, not planned preseason, probably plays a little bit of a, uh, results.


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[Assistant] It's not that. Like this, this is to me, this is one of the things where if you want to get into situational awareness and clock management, game management, it's this.


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[Assistant] It's funny, you know, I think we always attribute like the RPO to a dual threat quarterback.


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[Assistant] They'd be looking at a defender and he'd be pulling that thing out and slinging that thing if it wasn't there instead of handing it off.


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[Assistant] That's all it is. And by the way, the offensive line is blocking run.


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[Assistant] Which is one of the reasons why like, really when you look at who was most successful with it, people hate when I mention the name, but Chip Kelly. When Chip Kelly did it.


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[Assistant] And you had guys like Sam Bradford ball out, Nick Foles ball out. They were running a lot more outside zone. And that outside zone kind of pulled everyone. And you could hold it because they're all running to the sidelines.


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[Assistant] Basically the wide receivers get up on the safeties, right? It forces those guys who are 10 yards deep. Now they have to sit flat-footed.


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[Assistant] And you got a wide receivers running full speed right by him, which, you know, that works at the college level until you play a team with a defensive line that just busts through and charges the mesh point. Now it doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] Um, but it's, it's been tough to watch and we've also are in an era where


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[Assistant] It says, I would say, easy on the offense as ever before. I mean, defensive holding.


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[Assistant] You know, defensive pass interference, the way wide receivers are considered defenseless in the act of catching. So as far as throwing across the middle, like it has gotten as easy as it's ever been for offenses to move the football. And we just, we don't see that the scoring right now. We're not seeing it quite as much.


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[Assistant] Dan Campbell's one of those coaches that's easy to root for because he's just genuine. He is who he is and he coached those guys to play hard-nosed physical football and it's good to have them have a lot of success so far.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like they could kind of skate through and uhm, you know.


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[Assistant] I don't know, man. I can see them turning things on, getting hot here. And uh, that, you know, we don't have the NFL schedule is set up.


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[Assistant] There was a shark nearby that got a point where the direction of where it was at. And, uh, sure enough, I was literally.


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[Assistant] And then we stayed out of the water probably for the next 20, 30 minutes and we saw it. It was probably at that point about 50 feet away.


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[Assistant] Uh, we were anchored, tied up under the boat and they, uh, they ended up taking a picture of it, but it came right along the boat and it was a decent size little bull shark. So that was the closest encounter I could say I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Here's the hard thing about answering this question. And when I was thinking about this,


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[Assistant] If you're a team that's got a losing record, right? We would all assume they should be buyers.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be such an expensive move to make.


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[Assistant] I think that's why you don't see a ton of buyers in football. That on top of the fact that it takes them


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[Assistant] Oftentimes really long to allow the player to like work into the system and have the impact that you're hoping for.


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[Assistant] I think there'll be more sellers than buyers, but I think we're much like the housing market right now in this economy. You're not going to see a whole lot of movement. Like you're just not going to see a whole lot of transactions taking place.


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[Assistant] Yeah, draft capital is like your interest rates, right? And what they're asking is going to be far too high.


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[Assistant] Where Kirk hasn't said like, hey, I'm not going anywhere. And like they've only played one divisional game. Maybe they feel like they want to try to keep loading up, um, you know, Denver given the position that they're at.


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[Assistant] You know, the wide receiver play hasn't been stellar. Everyone wants to throw shade on Russell Wilson outside of this past week. He's actually played well this year. You know, he has not been the problem there.


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[Assistant] Uh, so does, I mean, Devers cutting guys loose. Did they look to bring anyone in on defense?


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[Assistant] Or is it like a team like the Miami Dolphins who's up as one of the best, but could they add on a couple more pieces? Uhm, so it's hard to predict this. I don't really have any like,


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[Assistant] I don't know how much longer to start watching to be out with this shoulder injury.


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[Assistant] I'll put it this way. A lot of people that I've talked to, some of them Drake may hire. And it's not something that they advertise.


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[Assistant] I think the other thing is with the Jets is like, are you really building things for this year?


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[Assistant] I get it, but it begs the question, like, are you still in the playoff hunt if you could come back by week 15? I don't know. But the other thing is, is like, you're going to pay a premium if you're a buyer right now.


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[Assistant] Like, I think a team like that, like, I'm not sure that they're really trying to, if they do do anything.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think the Packers would potentially, but like, they're not even a big player in the offseason as free agency. That's just, I mean, I know Brian Gunn couldn't have said that one year, but hell's about it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so it's hard to think that they're gonna make some big splashes or big moves. These teams seem to want to look into the players that they have. Uhm, the Vikings are an interesting team, but...


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[Assistant] They've got a lot up in the air, too. When you think about after this year, Kerkauzas becomes a free agent.


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[Assistant] Who they're just trying to cut for cap space purposes, or whatever the case is the rest of the season, like a la the Denver Broncos. Like hey, Frank Clark, let's just, they're letting him go. Alright, sweet!


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[Assistant] Played well, extremely well in the postseason. And if you're a postseason team, you're now a buyer, right? Like you're invested into this. Uh, so maybe like a team like the Lions or something, you know, there's some of these teams that I think are right there that are five and one that want to get over that hump or, or maybe the team like the Kansas City Chiefs, like, you know, someone wants to part waves or move on from another wide receiver. They feel like it may become help. Great. All right, let's go find ways of bringing him in to help us be that much better. So I just,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think in this case, you're saying like the six rest some, you know, kind of later on. But to your point, I think that's the right track, right? Like you got the Buffalo Bills who clearly been decimated with injury. Go call up some teams, you know, see if they're willing to play.


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[Assistant] Tough defense to play against, uh, and look, the Saints defense has been playing well. It's their offense that I'm more concerned by. I mean, for what that roster looks like, that team has not been able to kind of click and get it all together. Uh, and dudes, we were talking about this earlier today, like, Jaguars defense played pretty well.


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[Assistant] This is one where, look, even if Trevor Lawrence doesn't do a ton because of the name being immobile.


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[Assistant] Lean on Travis Etienne. I think Lawrence can make enough throws.


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[Assistant] Uh, to, to get this team to be able to, to be able to cover the number, um, which in this case, I think the one that you were, they get in a point and a half or they.


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[Assistant] And I know Unders have been the trend the entire season, like that's, uh, sorry, I'm trying to look back to Maima where I put it. Actually, no, this is one of the only ones I went with the Unders.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think this, this week we get a little bit more scoring going on too, and we start hitting some of those overs. Uhm, so I took the under in this game, but I think for the, by and large, for the rest of the games, uh, the overplay is probably better. Right, anything on the side of toe?


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[Assistant] Well, real quick funny, you should have mentioned last year, Wilson, because through three weeks


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[Assistant] This year, his stats are the same exact as through three weeks last year, wild 101 completions, attempts, uh, eight touchdowns, two interceptions, exact same three, you know, this year, three, you know, last year, somehow even the 70 point game two is the same guy. He just,


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[Assistant] Well, I was just gonna say as crazy as Brinson sounded because it did sound like he contradicted himself. I actually agree with him that if you mix everything we've said together, I think Wilson, you said Mike Mcdowell is the best play caller. Uh, Brinson said that.


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[Assistant] Right now, through three weeks, Tua looks like the best quarterback, but that doesn't mean he is the best. If you're building a franchise and you're having a draft tomorrow, you're not taking Tua over Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] I don't think so, but here is where your two things kind of mesh.


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[Assistant] Is that, uh, this is from NextGenStats. We all saw Tua complete his first 18 pass attempts. It is that Mike McDaniel was putting in these


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[Assistant] And it should be a completion. But the fact that you have a completion probability


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[Assistant] That high on 18 straight throws is just, that is coaching. That is Mike McDaniel just devising this scheme that, again, we talk about McDaniel being part of the Kyle Shanahan tree. That's what Kyle Shanahan does. He schemes everybody open, except I think 2 is better than Brock Purdy. I think


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[Assistant] The Dolphins probably have, uh, Christian McCaffrey dices this up a little bit, but I'd rather have the receivers that the Dolphins have. And then, you know, you can argue about running back, but it's just crazy what Michael McDaniel's done.


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[Assistant] That's fine, we can disagree on that. And look, if you put two on the Chiefs offense, uh, are the Chiefs as good? No.


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[Assistant] Oh, Wilson, uh, the, the answer to the question with Joe Varro and Justin Herbert, obviously I'm gonna say no. It's not even fair to ask me. Maybe Tua can get to a Super Bowl before we put him.


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[Assistant] If you're the Dolphins, all you want to see this season is Tua make it through all 17 games. If you make it through all 17 games, then you give them the contract. It's that simple. It, you know, we're only a week three.


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[Assistant] Last year in week three, they were also 3-0. They didn't make the playoffs. You know, we, we were crowning the Dolphins last year and granted, uh, it's a lot more exciting to crown a team after they score 70 points because that is absolutely bonkers.


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[Assistant] But again, 3-0 last year. Let's see if week four was actually the game, I think a Thursday night against the Bengals. Got injured. So it's just.


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[Assistant] Let's get through week 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. There are a lot of games left. There are 14 games left for Miami. And if Tua does make it through healthy and the Dolphins are looking this good, they don't have to score 70 every week. You know, it's okay if they only score 50. Uh, but yeah, if he starts all 17 games, uh, I'm absolutely giving him the $55 million a year.


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[Assistant] For instance, they were in the playoffs, their trip was so short, no one remembers it.


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[Assistant] Daniel Hackett doesn't look like the worst coach in Broncos history anymore, huh? No, certainly not. He didn't lose the game 70 to 20. He was two or more after three weeks.


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[Assistant] So, some of this is all combined, because obviously you're Sean Payton, you're gonna get grilled for this and what the offense did, and uh,


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[Assistant] I see some people saying that Russell Wilson piled up garbage time yards with his 300 yard game. That is not actually the case.


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[Assistant] Russell Wilson had nearly 200 yards at halftime. If you told a Broncos fan that Russell Wilson hit 193, if you said Russell Wilson's going to throw for 193 in the first half and be on pace for 400 yards, they would assume that they would have been thrilled. They would have given you any amount of money to see those stats, uh, until they also saw.


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[Assistant] So the Broncos offense wasn't horrible, it was just like the defense, I don't want to say they gave up, but it just seemed like they got out there, realized after, I don't know, two possessions, maybe the first play with Tyree Kill, that they were just completely overmatched, that they watched the wrong film or something this week. And it just, it felt like,


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[Assistant] That's what it looked like. And so you got to the first possession of the second half. Dolphins are up 35-13. The Broncos could have gone down, scored, made it 35-20. But when that didn't happen, it really just felt like the defense mailed it in. They're like, eh, we're not coming back. Our offense stinks. We stink. We're done.


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[Assistant] Let's just make, not let them score 70, but then the Dolphins scored 70 anyway. So I think heads are going to have to roll up your Sean Payton. This is too embarrassing of a loss for someone not to lose their job. So I won't be surprised if Vance Joseph, uh, is gone.


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[Assistant] Breach? Is there any hope they make the playoffs now? This year, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I am going to go with the Cardinals beating the Doodoo at the Cowboys. We're talking episodes now so I'm not going to go too deep into this on the Cowboys side but I will say


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[Assistant] But what Gannon has done, this team, everyone thought they were going to go 0-17, they looked horrible, everyone thought they were tanking, and you look at what they've done this season, I mean, they're legitimately six plays away from being 3-0.


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[Assistant] Absolutely bonkers when you think, I mean, they led Washington 16-10 in the fourth quarter. They had that 28-7 lead against the Giants in the third quarter, and they smoked the Cowboys. I mean.


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[Assistant] They're doing all this with Josh Dobbs at their quarterback who literally got signed to the team like two weeks before the season started. Think of your Dak Prescott or Sam Howe or Daniel Jones. You're getting outplayed by this guy who signed with the team less than a month ago. I mean, it's absolutely nuts. And that's really credit to


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[Assistant] I feel like people were laughing at him in August and now he's kind of getting the last laugh with, hey, look, we're actually not that bad and we're going to play tough. And it's to his credit that this team didn't go out there and flop and fall on their face. And now I think you have to take Arizona seriously.


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[Assistant] One more thing on that game, uh, uh, one more thing, uh, shout out to Matt Braider who hit a 62 yard field goal just before halftime.


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[Assistant] Of what we pay you and he's better, so. I don't think Kyler's better, but it makes it dicey. You don't have to rush Kyler back.


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[Assistant] And, uh, for the second straight upset, let me give my kicker shout out to Mr.


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[Assistant] Matthew Gay, who made NFL history with literally one of the best kicking performances in NFL history. He hit four field goals of 50 yards or more, which is the most kicks from that distance that any kicker has ever made. Justin Tucker has never made four 50 yard field goals in a single game.


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[Assistant] Sebastian Janikowski never done it. Matt Gay is the only person who has done it. And the crazy thing is this is a guy that Colts gave a lot of money to during the off season and it really was an eyebrow raising.


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[Assistant] This is one of those things where you don't spend a lot of money at Kicker unless you think you're close to, uh, that's the thing that'll put you over the Super Bowl hump.


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[Assistant] Where it felt like the Colts were so behind everything that they weren't gonna be good this year and now they are looking good.


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[Assistant] And I'm guessing the Rams are regretting letting this guy walk in pre-agency cause gay crushed it. And as, uh, I think you mentioned Wilson.


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[Assistant] Justin Tucker did have a chance to win this game in regulation with a 61 yarder, but he fell about a yard short. So the fact that this was bad weather, we knew the tropical cyclone was going through and although it wasn't pouring down rain, it was a wet field. It was a mushy field. It is not easy kicking weather and for him to do this, uh, in that game and really win the game for the Colts was impressive.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, like, the turf is still wet, so it's like, and most of the field turf has the little kind of uh, trackie, the tire, rubber, pellets. And by the way,


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[Assistant] Oh, right down the middle and they all made it by probably five to seven yards, which from the distance he was kicking from that weather was, they all would have been good from 60.


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[Assistant] And because you guys mentioned, I will throw out real quick, Trevor warrants in the first half, 10 of 16 for 89 yards, zero touchdowns, zero interceptions.


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[Assistant] Second half, 17 to 24 for 190 yards with one touchdown and one interception. But as Brenton pointed out, they were trailing, so they were kind of in a position where they had to throw the ball more. I don't know that he was that much more efficient.


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[Assistant] In the second half, uh, and real quick, again, special teams such a huge part of this game, just like all the upsets we talked about, you guys mentioned the kickoff return for a touchdown, you guys mentioned the blocked field goal, which by the way, after the blocked field goal,


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[Assistant] The Texans got the ball 41 yards away from the end zone and scored a touchdown. So they used that short field to get a touchdown. And then let's not forget that early in the game, the Jags could have scored the first points.


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[Assistant] Their new kicker, Brandon McManus, missed from 48. So Jackson was blocked, I think, right? No, the first one was a miss. The second one was blocked. Uh, so Jacksonville had a total special teams meltdown in this loss.


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[Assistant] I think we put it on Twitter one day and say, or X, if this gets 5,000 likes, Brenton will shave his beard. That's a good one. That's 5,000 likes. And we'll advertise it all week.


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[Assistant] Well, I feel the most sorry for Justin Fields cause... I agree with that. Imagine playing in front of Taylor Swift and only throwing for 99 yards. There it is. That's embarrassing.


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[Assistant] Uh, I wouldn't even be able to show my face in public for a week. But like we all said, there was...


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[Assistant] Look, there were zero expectations for Justin Fields. No one thought the Bears were going to win that game. So he played exactly how everyone thought he was going to play. There's no disappointment there.


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[Assistant] Trevor Lawrence is interesting, but I just feel like the Texans are his kryptonite. He cannot beat the Texans. He is, it's like Joe Burrow versus the Browns. Trevor Lawrence won in four against the Texans in his career.


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[Assistant] He was favored, Jacksonville was favored in all four games that he lost to them. He is the only starting quarterback since 1970 who has four or more losses to a team that he was favored to beat.


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[Assistant] In his first three seasons. So that is a little bit crazy. So I'm also gonna go Sam Howe. I'm gonna agree with Brenton here. And I think my thing with Sam Howe is that


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[Assistant] Look, he looked good the first two weeks through two touchdown passes last week against the Broncos, that wild comeback win. They had the win over the Cardinals. That looks a little bit more impressive now and he looked pretty good there, even though


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[Assistant] You know, these nine sacks, maybe we should have seen it coming because he got sacked six times by the Cardinals. He got sacked four times by the Broncos. He had been sacked ten times going into this game.


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[Assistant] And so, yes, he sacked nine times, but you cannot throw four interceptions. Taking nine sacks is one thing. You can't also throw the picks. So, including a pick six. So, this is one of those where Washington's like, ooh, we have a quarterback, and now you gotta take five steps back and start wondering if you have a quarterback again. And now Sam House has started taking these baby steps forward. You're doing it.


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[Assistant] Uh, at home and you got Magic Johnson watching and he's thinking, man, what are we doing here? Do we need a quarterback? So Sam Howe can't have another one of these.


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[Assistant] It absolutely does. It is the old breach bot fell for it. Kind of like last year that we always talk about. And the thing was, I was on a radio show earlier going into this week and saying,


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[Assistant] Man, Mike McCarthy's so underrated. He's won 12 games these past two seasons. He is 2-0 now. This team finally looks good and they're on pace to meet up in an undefeated matchup with the 49ers in week five.


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[Assistant] Man, I should just rip my tongue out because I have no idea what I'm talking about. I must have jinxed the cowboy. So you're talking about


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[Assistant] This is a game where they just got outclassed and I'm going to put it on Mike McCarthy. I know that there's a few other options and I could have gone another route, but I think


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[Assistant] But this was a classic Mike McCarthy. We saw these types of games at the end of his Green Bay tenure a lot, and everyone would just stick their hands up and be like,


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[Assistant] When are we getting rid of this guy? And obviously the Cowboys aren't there yet. And uh, Jerry Jones just gave him a vote of confidence, which is probably horrible because he was talking last week about how good of a coach Mike is.


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[Assistant] Just as I was, so yeaah, I'm gonna put this on McCarthy for bad play calling, bad red zone play calling, just the, hopefully it's a mulligan, I don't know what's going on here.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm going to take the easy way out and I'm going to break your rules because it's actually a three word answer, the Kansas.


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[Assistant] We're gonna make the- as long as Patrick Poem stays healthy, we saw his angle get banged up, uh, which obviously isn't good, but you know what? He didn't have to play the entire game because-


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[Assistant] Uh, and you look at the Chiefs, their schedule, they don't play a team with a winning record until November. But that game is against the Dolphins, and it's in Germany! Pick six in Germany for that game? What do you guys think?


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[Assistant] And the only way this ends well is if they somehow get married, uh, but then this whole thing would become a circle cause the only ones gonna talk about is, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, it is not the Chiefs, even though I wrote them down, I found out they're not 1 and 2, so I can't name them. Uh, my 1 and 2 team I feel good about is the New England Patriots.


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[Assistant] The one and two team that their season's already over is the New York Football Jets.


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[Assistant] Uh, for me, he's Jordan like. I like him. I don't love him just yet. I need to see a little bit more. I mean, first half he went 7 of 17. I know there's a couple drops in there, but when you are a substantial number under 50%, you're just...


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[Assistant] They were all over the place and for me it really felt like the Packers didn't win this game until Derek Carr got injured and the Saints just looked completely deflated on offense even though James Winston wasn't horrible.


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[Assistant] Uh, and you know, you mentioned that interception. He had a rough first half, 7 to 17, came out and threw an interception on the first possession of the second half.


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[Assistant] When it was 17 to nothing, they got the ball back, uh, after the defense made a stop, then they probably went three and out. So we're talking about, uh, really two possessions in the second half where it's just like,


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[Assistant] There's no way they're going to win this game. And then they got the ball again, drove down, probably should kick a field, but went forward, called for them to go for it, which that is what it is. I thought it was word called to take the pointer down three scores. You get a field goal, you cut it two scores.


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[Assistant] And they only won because the Saints decided to get a kicker, uh, who can't make a 46-sharp field. Yea, they traded the other one that could. Yes, they did.


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[Assistant] And the, the, the kicker who got traded, Will Watts, he won the training camp battle and his agent literally said training camp battle wasn't even better, even close, the Saints were being cheap and this is gonna backfire.


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[Assistant] Oh well, Watts hasn't been kicking great in the regular season, but the fact that they said that the Saints would regret this decision, here we are in week three.


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[Assistant] No, they went for on fourth down on the first play of the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Rather than still being down three scores, which they were because they failed on, uh, Jordan Love. And it's a 30 yard field goal too.


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[Assistant] I think it gives you more mathematical outs. Uh, and also the worst case scenario is that if you don't get it, you're still only down one score.


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[Assistant] Hey and they play this Thursday, so I'm sure those odds will change by Thursday night. That's right. Can't wait.


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[Assistant] Yea, and the Chiefs lost to the Lions. And the Bills lost to the Jets.


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[Assistant] I would say Dolphins Chiefs Bills. So exactly what I said. No, exactly what I just said.


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[Assistant] I think the only thing I'll say about Alan is that I feel like the bill sat him down and somebody said, look, Josh, don't be dumb and we can win the Superbowl. And that's it. Is that simple? Just, you don't have to be Mr. Put the team on your back and make crazy throws. You saw what happened against the jets. That's not going to help us at all.


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[Assistant] You mentioned it Wilson, play within the confines of this offense, make a play when you have to make a play when you need to, but we don't need you to make a play on every single down. And I mean, we saw Stefan Diggs somehow running wide open the whole game. It's like the commanders forgot he existed, but Alan found them and that's a good quarterbacks. Do they find their best players? Uh, and the most.


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[Assistant] Interesting thing though is that not only have the Bills won the past two weeks, they've won these games by at least four touchdowns.


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[Assistant] And fun fact, they're the first team since 2002 to lose in week one and then win their next two games by 28 points or more.


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[Assistant] No, that's running on a perfect game, man. Like, you don't kick a field goal with 46 seconds left when you're being shut out. Take the shut out like a man.


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[Assistant] Okay, you can't kick field goal. I was just kidding. Cause you're at your own 24 yard line and you are obviously mentioning I will set the stage fourth and one from your own 24, one minute and 51 seconds left.


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[Assistant] And you are up by four points. If you fail, if you do not get this,


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[Assistant] The Vikings have the ball 24 yards from your end zone with a chance to take the lead. But if you get this, the game is effectively over. Oh, it's over. They have no timeouts left.


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[Assistant] Yes, so it's effectively over. You still have to kneel it three times. You can fumble the snaps. We saw a miracle in the Meadowlands when Snap got fumbled. Uh, it's happened.


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[Assistant] Not 100% over 99.9999 for instance. Uhm, but last week against the titans, we were talking about how it's like Staley's lost his mojo. He's got this identity crisis, he doesn't know what to do on fourth down anymore.


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[Assistant] Wilson, you mentioned that they outcharged the chargers and they did that by totally just botching the clock management.


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[Assistant] You know, there is something to be said for what you guys are talking about as far as do you want to give up more compensation because of what you gave up for Aaron Rodgers.


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[Assistant] But if you don't, then you have to go out and sign a Matt Ryan or a Carson Wentz and it's not that those guys aren't an upgrade over Zach Wilson because they are, it's that they have to get acclimated and learn this offense. They've built up chemistry with these receivers and it's, you can't just


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[Assistant] So I agree with Brenton as he said, we talked about, we, we, we had a strong talk about this beforehand, but like you said, Brenton, with 310 left, it's not a completely crazy decision, but after the penalty, now there's, you're down to 222 on that fourth down, you're at the eight yard line, you have to get the touchdown. But here's what Josh McDaniels is thinking.


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[Assistant] His thought process is that there's only about five things that can happen here and no matter what happens,


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[Assistant] It's fourth and four from Pittsburgh's eight yard line. Our defense has to make a stop. If I kick the field goal here, we're down 23-18. We still have to get a stop and get the ball back.


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[Assistant] If I kick a field goal and miss, we still have to get a stop and get the ball back. If I go forward on fourth down here and I do not get it, we are down 23-15, I have to get a stop and get the ball back. If we score a touchdown and we do not get the two-point conversion,


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[Assistant] We have to make a stop because it's only a tie game and we have to make sure the Steelers don't win. So every situation you're looking at involves your defense making a stop. And so McDaniels is thinking,


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[Assistant] We have to make a stop anyway, so why don't I just take the two point conversion out of play? That's the least I can do for my team, because I feel like that is the highest percentage thing in my head right now. And I'm not saying that's right. Again, I wouldn't have done it with 2.22F.


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[Assistant] Probably more likely to do it, uh, on that first sport down, but as Brinton said, once you accept that penalty and you're burning more time off the clock, you have to get the touchdown. Uh, and they didn't, but his thought process.


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[Assistant] Beginning of the fourth quarter with 13 minutes left, they had a fourth and five from the Steelers 22 and they went for it.


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[Assistant] Uh, and if they would have kicked the field goal there, they would have cut it down to 23 to 10, which would have meant they wouldn't have needed two touchdowns and two two-point conversions instead, went for it, didn't get it. So it's just McDaniel's mind was all over the place. None of his logic didn't make sense. Uh, so just crazy. So let's, let's end on this.


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[Assistant] I agree with Branson. I don't think there's any chance Mark Davis fires Josh McDaniel, so I'll put it at a two and a half. But if this was a normal franchise that was not owned by one person who makes all the unilateral decisions, then I would say that it'd be a seven.


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[Assistant] I think we agree in terms of... Mark Davis is trying to talk himself into thinking he has as Zach Taylor. Two wins, four wins, and then Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pig Six Podcast. Katie Mox and Will Brinson here joined by John Breach back from his New Zealand and Australia travels rocking a little bit of a tan there. We appreciate that from you.


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[Assistant] And of course, Emory Hunt, the czar of the playbook. If you missed last week's episode, we gave our preseason superlatives and we also shared our week three preseason best bets. You can catch that episode on the YouTube channel or the audio version wherever you get your podcasts. Go ahead and hit subscribe and like if you haven't already to both of those platforms. One, Breach, how was your travels?


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[Assistant] I'm excited too. Did you see wombats though? That is actually my favorite. I've been to Australia once. I went in 2000 and I love a wombat.


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[Assistant] Uh, we were in Australia. My sister actually competed in the Paralympics, uh, in the Sydney Games in 2000. And so we went on this, this tour and, um,


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[Assistant] I'm a very friendly animal person, but in this video it would suggest, uhm, that I wasn't exactly happy with the animals of Australia. So, it's kind of funny there. Anyways, today!


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[Assistant] We're gonna look at the odds for the 2023 NFL Playoff Futures. We'll also look at some final preseason news ahead of the regular season. Preseason is finally over and we're also gonna play a game. Spinarama to bet each team's best season results. Uh, but before we get started guys, did anybody watch this weekend


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[Assistant] B.S. High on uh, HBO Max, Mac, I think it's just called Max Now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, not true. Well, first of all, one, I think this, what was it, 2021, the season where the bishop, uh,


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[Assistant] He has like 300 lawsuits against him for unpaid bills and stuff. It wasn't a real school. These kids were not in high school. They were older than that.


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[Assistant] Emma, you said you've got like a personal story here, but I was, I, I was shocked watching this last night.


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[Assistant] Well, this guy took out like, um, PPP loans in these kids' names. So now they're on the hook for like 20, $30,000 loans.


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[Assistant] He, uhm, he didn't pay any of the hotels that they were staying in and now it's on these kids' credit that they have unpaid hotel fees. Like, they didn't have a team doctor in that game against IMG. They were tearing ACLs left and right. They had no medical staff. It was a team, a team mom who went out there and was acting like she was some kind of a doctor. I don't know, but it was just, it's sick. Uhm, and you should definitely watch it. I found it today.


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[Assistant] I buy into it. Uhm, alright guys, let's look at some preseason news. Obviously preseason concluded this weekend. Biggest news, it's gotta be Trey Lance traded to the Dallas Cowboys for a fourth round pick in the 2024 draft breach. Are there any winners in this trade?


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I, I agree with what everyone has said here. One, I think the fact that Mr. Irrelevant actually ended up being good takes a little bit of the heat off of Lynch and Shanahan because this is still a winning team. Now, if Brock Purdy wasn't good and Trey Lance doesn't work out, it looks even worse, but it, you know, let's say they do go win the Super Bowl or still win the division.


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[Assistant] Small sample size for sure, but even in the preseason, he looked decisive, which Trey Lance has never looked, and he is better.


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[Assistant] Then Tray Lance. Now of course the ceiling of Tray Lance, everyone talks about this imaginary ceiling is much higher for him. But what I found the most interesting, and look,


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[Assistant] The 49ers were never going to get anywhere near what they gave up for Trey Lance. And I know that the Bills were also interested in Trey Lance. They were going to give a sixth round pick. This is, you know, the, the Cowboys came in with a fourth round pick. Obviously Trey Lance is now going to share the playbook, uh, with the Cowboys, which is, you know, interesting for an NFC rival.


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[Assistant] For me, they have Dak Prescott and also Cooper Rush signed through 2024. Is this a better place for Trey Lance to be? I mean, this is also $6 million for a third string quarterback. He's got what, $940K this year. He's guaranteed $5.3 million next year. I know, Brinson, you said it's a small amount of money.


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[Assistant] And Dak Prescott too, I don't think his job is in jeopardy at all, but he said, to be honest with you, I'm not surprised by anything anymore. It's hard to say that I was surprised to be honest with you. I understand it's a business. That's the first round of talent and you're always trying to make your team better.


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[Assistant] That's where the front office comes in. We're going to welcome him as any teammate. It doesn't sound like he's happy about this though, Brinson.


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[Assistant] I just feel like Jerry Jones is consistently trolling Dak to just be like, you ain't it.


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[Assistant] How long is it gonna be until Tray Lance actually plays? I mean, already a couple years in, now looking like another couple years, this is a number three overall that may not play in the NFL ever, or, you know, in four or five years.


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[Assistant] Uh, Brinson, you already hit on this about Aaron Rodgers and the love situation. Aaron Rodgers did play his first preseason game since 2018. He played two series through a touchdown pass. Gorgeous one to Garrett Wilson. Uh, and he emerged


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[Assistant] Unscathed, which was interesting because the O-line was pretty scary. Uh, it's almost like they were trying to get him killed. Breach, what did you think of Roger's first preseason game in a while?


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[Assistant] I mean, they always say nothing matters if you're O-line sucks and even if you have a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, if you can't protect him, uh, he overcame a lot yesterday, but asking him to do that for 17 weeks, uh, throughout a whole game, not just two series, sounds like a lot. Uh, we're going to go to break here soon, but one more thing, uh, Kirk Cousins debuted quite


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[Assistant] The mustache this week and does this-


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[Assistant] Looking at this, and I know Billy's gonna throw it up on the screen here pretty soon, looking at this, is this an auto fade of him for the rest of the season or an automatic MVP vote? What do you think, Princeton?


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[Assistant] All right, we got to take a quick break here, but coming up, we're going to play a game of Pick 6 Spinarama. Stick around.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to Pig Six Podcast. It's time to play Spinarama. And I gotta be honest with you, we didn't talk about this in the pre-show. I believe we have a wheel, Billy, that is putting on the, yep, there it is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we have a wheel with all 32 teams. So we will go in order. Uhm, I think we'll start with the next segment.


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[Assistant] I don't know about the legality of everything. This is, this is a wheel that was created by Billy. We're going to spin around. It will land on one of the 32 teams.


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[Assistant] And then there are some DraftKings odds about team results. So to land on your team, and then you'll have to say what kind of bet you want to make. Is it to miss the playoffs, to lose in the wild card round, to lose in the conference championship, to win a Super Bowl?


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[Assistant] How this team's season will end. And we'll start bottom up, uh, with the brightest color. So Emory.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because I think it could go either way. The 49ers, like, like you said, Breach, have like the third best odds to win the whole thing. This is a team that has lost the Super Bowl the last few times have been there. This is a team that has lost the conference championship the last few times that they've been there. So it's hard.


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[Assistant] To say that they're gonna win these things.


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[Assistant] Uhm, okay, so this is a team that I actually think has...


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[Assistant] The possibility to win their division. We know that I've given out that future before. I think that the NFC North is way more wide open than people think. So I could see them getting, you know,


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[Assistant] I don't, getting to the divisional round seems like a lot. I could see them losing in the wild card round at plus 275.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, so I'm, I'm going to go lose in the wild card round because I think they're going to surprise some people at plus 275. I'm not doing that minus 180. I believe in Chicago Bears.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this might be one you just lay off though, because they're not making the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I can also, uh, we got Joe Musso in the chat over under four and a half Stetson Bennett starts. I will go over. I actually don't think that Ryan is playing that many games or not. Matt Stafford is playing that many games. All right.


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[Assistant] Alright, to miss the playoffs, minus 370. Yeesh. Losing the wild card round, plus 500. Losing the divisional round, plus a thousand. They're not getting to the conference championship game. They're not getting to the Super Bowl. So what are we looking at here?


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[Assistant] I don't wanna minus 370 to miss the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I feel like this is kind of a similar to a breach thing. You gotta, you gotta do the five to one to lose in the wild card round, but they're not getting to the wild card rounds, but minus 370 to miss the playoffs is just too much.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know how much I like it, I'm just not laying the minus three seven.


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[Assistant] Yeah. All right. Let's do one more round of these and then, and then we'll go to break. So let's, Emery, let's get a good spin out of you. Your final spinorama. Who's it going to be?


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[Assistant] In theory, in theory, the Broncos are a very good team because they've got an elite quarterback and an elite coach and receivers, so.


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[Assistant] All right, Brynson, give her a spin.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's get one last spin on here before we get into actual odds.


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[Assistant] I don't, like, he doesn't sound obviously very good, but the 49ers have no kickers right now, so I wonder if they will, uhm, inquire about him. Uhm, alright, to miss the playoffs, minus 135, pretty favorable odds to lose in the wild card round, plus 270. Look, I'm very, very high.


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[Assistant] On the AFC North, which, uh, Breach, you know, that's going to be one of my bets later that that is a Super Bowl winning division. And it's not that I think that.


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[Assistant] Sean Watson can't be good. It's just, will he be good? And now they don't have a kicker.


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[Assistant] So I'm going to, I'm gonna, I'm gonna lay the minus 135 with them to, uh, miss the playoffs this year. Cause I'm just not high on them at all.


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[Assistant] I do, well I do, and this is obviously the chalky one, but for the Chiefs to win their division at minus 165, I don't think that those odds are terrible given that it's the Chiefs and you look at the rest of


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[Assistant] The AFC West. So I don't, there's not, not a ton of analysis that goes in there except for that the Chiefs have won the division for nine seasons in a row, right? Or eight and this is going in there and I don't know.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and the division isn't exactly...


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[Assistant] A lot of the AFC got better, but not exactly the AFC West, especially if we're looking at, you know, what the Broncos are looking like right now. So yeah, Chiefs minus 165 win the division. It's just easy bet.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I mean, I alluded to it, and I've given, you know, Breach and I have both given this out on a previous, uhm, episode. But yeah, I don't hate that, Emery, cause I have the AFC North as the Super Bowl winning division. Now earlier, when it was on, Caesar Sportsbook was at plus 340, it's plus 500 on DK, so even better odds here. And yeah, look at the,


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[Assistant] So he looks really, really good. And then you got coaches, John Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin, uh, Zach Taylor. And these defenses are crazy and they've got some really, really good offensive weapons. So I think that the AFC North


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[Assistant] Is the division to beat, uh, and Breach, I know you agree with me on that one.


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[Assistant] Well, I, I, yeah, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna see that ticket, uh, later, Brynson, to see when that cashes. It's gonna be, uh, a fun one if that cashes, although probably not because the AFC North will be the Super Bowl winning.


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[Assistant] Division. Alright guys, that is going to wrap up our show today. Thank you for playing Spinorama with us. Make sure you join us tomorrow for more NFL coverage. Remember to like, comment and subscribe on the YouTube page. If you're listening to audio only, then leave a five star review, follow, tell your friends to listen and watch the pod and we will see you tomorrow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Scarface is a great one. Lots of good ones. Emory? Sin of a woman was good. He was big boy in Dick Tracy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that, that won't surprise me because of the amount of the points that they score, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I wasn't too particularly surprised about the coats. Uhm, you know, it wasn't...


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[Assistant] Um, but you know, but that's why he kind of, it may sound wild when you say it.


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[Assistant] But people will soon learn that I know what the F I'm talking about, right? So if I tell you it's Christmas, start wrapping presents.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? So you also look at the Cardinals game and, and this is, it's fascinating when you watch the Cardinals uh, play because when you factor in, um,


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[Assistant] You know, the defensive side of the ball, which I was high on, they have some pieces on offense, unsure about the quarterback position.


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[Assistant] But Josh Dobbs, we thought, wow, they made a move for him. We thought Coach McCoy was kind of steady to ship, hold it down.


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[Assistant] Seeing double digit lines now for the Cardinals may just be a fool's errand because obviously they're going to play tougher than...


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[Assistant] Uh, the, the double digit point sprays. So it's, it's fascinating to watch those guys play out and you start to now wonder, well, what happens when they get Kyle Murray back? They may be even better. So it's going to be fascinating to watch the car.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're going to play them. And if you're, if you're a Calabrian, why wouldn't you want to play? Cause the team was good. You know, so I feel like the, uh, Cardinals was the biggest surprise in how they really, and you go back and watch the Giants game, you're like,


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[Assistant] Well damn, they were blowing out the Giants. They fell apart late.


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[Assistant] And they really took it to the Cowboys from start to finish.


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[Assistant] You like how both offenses are starting to play and the Packers faced it, faced a tougher defense last weekend.


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[Assistant] Uh, in New Orleans and the Lions faced a tough defense themselves in Atlanta and they were able to put up some points.


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[Assistant] I feel like the over is in play here now that you have a confident Jordan Love and how he was able to bring that team back. They couldn't get out of their own way at times. I feel like this one could get into shootout territory. So I kind of lean to the over more so than the, uh, the spread.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's tough to watch Falcons offensive attack because...


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[Assistant] Theoretically on paper, you see explosiveness and you think, okay, they should be playing this type of game, right? They should spread it out.


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[Assistant] And that way you open things up for B. John Robinson, then you open things up for London and pits. And it makes sense when you spread the field, but.


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[Assistant] As you notice, when they go max protect, it's tough for them, uh, to really, if they go empty or whatever, it's hard for them to protect. So that's why they kind of have to go max protect.


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[Assistant] And on the other side, you lose Troy Anderson, which is a fantastic defender, athletic defender.


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[Assistant] Over there in London, cause it's usually damp, slippery, it's terrible. So that's also a factor as well. I think this screams like run game, one big pass and play enough to get you to win, but I like the under.


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[Assistant] Let's just count the fast guys for the bills on defense and, and find me five that can keep up with five on the dolphin side. I think they're going to make this track me.


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[Assistant] And remember this Dolphins team, not only beat them last year in Miami, and then we saw Bills fans and Bills players complaining about the heat. Like, whatever. Then they grew up to Buffalo on that Thursday night, I believe it was, or Monday night.


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[Assistant] And it was cold, but we saw Miami still have some success.


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[Assistant] But that was after Tua had the concussion issues and we know his play suffered then. Then we saw him in the playoffs and they were able to get after Josh Allen, keep him contained in the pocket, try to force him to play a one dimensional game.


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[Assistant] The Dolphins defense I think matches up well with Buffalo.


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[Assistant] But I just don't think the Bills defense, despite being solid, can match up with Miami. I'm like, Katie, I don't understand why, uh, the Dolphins are underdogs here. And, um, to me, this is a gimme. I would stay away from a total.


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[Assistant] Because it's a conference, a division game. We could see this one get close. I'm very familiar with each other's offensive attack. So I would just attack the straight up dolphins here and take them on the money line wise plus money.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, because I feel like in this game, the Texans have the better quarterback, uh, more confident quarterback.


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[Assistant] So, you know, when you factor in how we watched Kenny Pickett play.


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[Assistant] And again, it's the same thing I talk about with Brock Purdy.


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[Assistant] It's not that I hate Kenny, that's the thing with these media, everybody think if you're critical, you hate, right? But it's really just being honest. And you know, like with the dropped interceptions, like Marcus Peters usually catches that, right? And he usually brings that back to the house. But Kenny Pickett's arm is going to be a liability, arm strength here.


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[Assistant] Is the biggest question. And you have now a Texans defense.


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[Assistant] That's really getting after the quarterback. I think they play inspired ball and Stroud has shown a lot of the mental makeup that we saw from him against Georgia. Like he's a fearless guy. So he's going to step up in the pocket. He's going to try to do what he can, keep his eyes downfield, make plays. We see Tank Dell and those guys having big plays in the passing game.


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[Assistant] And we know, I know, you know, our colleague Brian McFadden doesn't want to hear this. BMAC may want to close his ears, but they're going to target Patrick Peterson. You know, this is, that's our colleague too. He might not want to hear it. Right. No, that's the, that's where they have an advantage with the speed and youth is basically why they're targeting


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[Assistant] Patrick Peterson, not because they don't think he still can play, but it's just a man, fresh young legs against Patrick P.


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[Assistant] They're going to try to take advantage of that match up there, but on the other side, they're going to get out to Kenny Pickett and play the run on the way to the quarterback, try to force him to beat them throwing the football.


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[Assistant] I don't think it can happen. I like the Texans plus the points here. I just feel like Kenny Pickett.


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[Assistant] When you rank him in a division, he would be fourth watching him play this year. It's almost like when a big play happens, he's like, thanks.


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[Assistant] Thank God this play happened, right? Whew, I'm glad I hit that deep ball. It doesn't look confident. And so when you facing someone that has that dog in them, like Stroud does.


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[Assistant] It can get ugly, like bowling shoes out there, but I do like to take...


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[Assistant] First, take the coats on the money line here and I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to touch on what the Smitty said, a quick story about what he said in the chat. He said, I look like Brian Westbrook.


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[Assistant] So here's a funny story. I went down, you know, I do scouting and whatnot. I was scouting Villanova.


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[Assistant] And I think they were playing Lehigh. So I get down to-


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[Assistant] They, I'm down there scouting players, cause they had a couple that Tano Passy was playing. Uh, he was a D in. And so, I'm in a press box before the game, and this older guy,


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[Assistant] Probably was at Villanova when they opened up the doors, right? He's talking to me. He said, man, it's good, you know, good you're here. I'm thinking like, yeah, I've come to Villanova a couple times. I love coming back, you know, great press box food. They serve you food twice at Villanova. It's easy to get out of, in and out of Villanova. You know, the parking deck is right behind the stadium.


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[Assistant] So it was good, they were top, at the time they were top 5. Okay. Yes, but now they're top 25 still. Uhm, but he's talked to me, I'm thinking like, yo, it's pretty cool. Like, you know, maybe he remember last time I was here and it, it started to click. I was like, wait a minute.


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[Assistant] Right, and at the time I'm still heavily lifting, so it's like, okay, I kinda see what he thought, but it's funny that he thought I was him and realized I wasn't and was like, damn, I gotta go sit over that now, so.


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[Assistant] I was like, what the hell are you talking about? I was going to say, for the coats, it was,


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[Assistant] Here's why I was high on the coast coming into the season, because they're zigging when everyone is zagging.


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[Assistant] There is run game and defense. Their defense, if you notice in the first three games, excellent.


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[Assistant] That last touchdown, whatever, they had the Jags off and sputtering. And if you know, Richie doesn't throw that pick or, and this is what worries me in this game.


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[Assistant] If, you know, I know you have a lot of these smooth brain scholars, it's like, oh, go forward on fourth down every time. Well, you see what that looks like with Chargers and with the Colts. How many points he left out there on the field trying to go forward on fourth down against Baltimore, against Jacksonville. If they just kick field goals and punts.


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[Assistant] They beat Jacksonville, they're sitting 3-0. So that still worries me a little bit about this game. He tried to outsmart himself against Sean McVay.


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[Assistant] But they're defensive line, crowds the line of scrimmage. They give pressure to collapse the pocket. They make it tough for you to complete and we complete passes. And we know Stafford is not the athletic guy that he was maybe in his, in his earlier twenties. So he's going to have an issue. And if Richardson is back.


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[Assistant] That zone read with Zach Moss now is going to be even more deadly than it was with, uh, with Minshew who.


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[Assistant] Tried to give the game away multiple times yesterday. Uhm, so this is a tough game for the Rams and it's a tough game for Shane Steichen to really.


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[Assistant] Coach a clean football game and not overthink things and take the points because they do add up. But I do like the coach here because of their defense and getting Richardson back because here's what I think. I think Richardson could have played.


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[Assistant] You know, so I think, I think they was like, we're not going to put him at risk of getting sacked.


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[Assistant] Against a very aggressive Ravens defense, he let Mishu do that. And so they lucked up and got a win.


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[Assistant] And I think Richardson will clear protocol, probably it'll be announced. And then he'll be out here against the Rams. At home.


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[Assistant] Indoors, on turf. It should be a fun game, but I do like the coastal win.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we, we, we probably taken a different approach if homeboy for the Vikings catch that pick, uh, in that crucial moment. That would have been a crucial time interception for, you know, west coast cousins, but.


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[Assistant] You know, we see, we see now that anything involving the Vikings or Chargers, even from a point total standpoint, cause you don't, the Chargers on paper defense should be a top eight defense.


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[Assistant] Average 30 points a game considering you have a guy that puts up a lot of iceberg lettuce type numbers, right?


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[Assistant] I would stay away from this game, just watch for the narratives. Like, just watch this and enjoy it. You know, just stay away from it.


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[Assistant] Take the Saints to win this ball game. If Carr plays, now he's coming up. He's already has arguably the worst pocket presence in the league outside of Gardner Minshew. Like they don't feel pressure, uh, just, they just are completely


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[Assistant] And if he's not, then take the Saints. Cause we know Winston is fearless. And here's a, this is to all the Saints fans that was texting me yesterday. Oh man, what are we going to do now? Like we, you know, Carr had the offense roll. Like bro, he scored 10 points on offense. Shaheed had a punt return. Chill out. The offense has been sputtering on the ground. Chill out.


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[Assistant] And they do get Albuquemara back. So that's going to help out. And if Winston plays, take the Saints because they'll get after Baker Mayfield. And with Winston, we know the deep ball is going to be back in play. That has been not as consistent with Carr.


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[Assistant] I'm going to go ahead and lay the points to the Eagles because I like their D-line versus this, this offensive line that we just saw. Washington's offensive line is real.


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[Assistant] Hopefully, I, granted, we all have these one games where everything just goes haywire. So I don't expect Howard to throw four intercepts again.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I do expect him to take a lot of sacks. Uh, there's a lot of hero ball in his, you know, he wants to show he's tough and physical, but that's going to end up in a lot of sacks, uh, trying to evade that, that Eagles rush. So I think Eagles will get multiple swings at bat. This game could even, you know, easily be 24-7 and you cash it under and also cover the spread. So I like the Eagles here.


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[Assistant] I like the Broncos here. Russ has been playing well the whole season. He's played, he played well yesterday. Unfortunately, their defense just isn't where it needs to be. Vance Joseph may be the first dude in history to get fired twice in the same city.


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[Assistant] Like part of the game coach at the Broncos now he's back as DC and he might lose his job as a DC.


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[Assistant] with the Broncos. If they just had any semblance of defense, they probably kept that one close.


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[Assistant] And in this ball game, I know everyone's talking about, you know, Caleb Williams for the Bears and quarterback, whatever. It, to me, it sounds like it should be Marvin Harrison Jr. and Jared Verst, because they can't get to the quarterback and need someone outside of DJ Moore. It seems like they need more weapons as opposed to a new quarterback with the same set of issues that they already have. So I think the Bears could.


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[Assistant] Easily stay with Justin Fields and get better around him, but the Broncos in this spot just is easy money.


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[Assistant] Should chime in and get with the refs thing too. Cause the refs again in Brown's games have been a bit sketchy at best.


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[Assistant] Uhm, they had a touchdown that they didn't call yesterday. Uhm, a couple of face masses they didn't call against the Steelers. You know, so we gotta be careful with this, the way they call these Browns football games. This one I will stay completely away from because the Browns defense is excellent.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Sean Watson at passing game can have some success against that Raven secondary. The Ravens still have the best player overall in Lamar Jackson, but they're, they're backfield. I would, if I'm a fantasy guy, I would go and stash Keith Mitchell right now because that, when he gets back healthy.


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[Assistant] Whenever that is, it could be this week, it could be next week. That, that's going to be the guy in their backfield because he is explosive. And so Ravens still have some issues with the Dropsies.


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[Assistant] I would stay away from this. This would be a very good football game from an X's and O's point of view. But betting, stay completely away.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't trust the Patriots offense. Like they had the benefit of playing Zach Wilson led offense. So there was no real threat and I was all in on the Jets somehow finding a way to get a win. But their offense still isn't explosive enough. The Cardinals offense is more explosive than.


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[Assistant] The Patriots offense, you know, so I like that the Cowboys hit a cover. It was six and a half earlier in the day, but now it's seven. Either one, I think you should be fine.


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[Assistant] If they just catch the pics that, uh, Brock Purdy throws them, they should be fine.


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[Assistant] Whatever he's, he's living right. So, you know, I would say, and I think a lot of people just have to go and look at this Cardinals defense pound for pound and what they possess from a personnel standpoint. They've been solid versus the run. They are getting after the quarterback. Those things you can't.


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[Assistant] Luck yourself into, you can't just turn on your run defense to say, Hey, we go stop the run today. No, that's an attitude. So the attitude is where it needs to be.


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[Assistant] On defense, offensively, what could give the 49ers issues with the, is something that they probably hadn't faced so far this season, the athletic mobile quarterback.


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[Assistant] In and of itself calms the ability to just get up feel. Now you gotta play a little bit more passive and hesitant, so.


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[Assistant] By, by schematic and personnel, this game would be a lot closer, so I'mma take the Cardinals and the points.


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[Assistant] I'll leave the nine and a half with the Chiefs, and also with the Thunder.


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[Assistant] I like the over here too in that game. I like the Seahawks, but I also like the over. Seahawks defense tends to still be a little bit lax in, uh, coverage.


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[Assistant] Hello everyone, welcome back to the Pick Six Podcast, and it's already week three of the NFL season. Katie Mox and Will Brinson here, joined by Sportsline's finest RJ White and Alex Selznick, aka Prop Stars. Hey.


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[Assistant] You can arguably look sharper than I do there.


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[Assistant] Well, they must have been playing fish and or the dead if you were in such a good mood.


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[Assistant] Yeah, RJ and, uh, Propstars don't want to listen to us talk about, uh, the photo shoot there, but.


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[Assistant] Princeton Brady Liget talking about the Browns curse, Nick Chubb's injury, and Justin Fields' coaching jabs. Check it out on YouTube or anywhere that you get your podcasts. We are coming off of a bounce back week, guys, after


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[Assistant] Pretty miserable start, uh, to say the least. I went five and three. Brinson, four and one. Stay hot, kid. RJ, two and three. Propstars, three and two.


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[Assistant] How do we feel about week two? I loved it. Well yea, you loved it.


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[Assistant] I had a lot of Niners props, which is why I think my average went up a little bit. Christian McCaffrey did not get over on his receiving yards, but other than that.


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[Assistant] I don't think he necessarily needed the cover, but I think he knew how many people had hammered San Francisco minus the seven and a half. He was like, F you guys, I'm going to kick the field goal here and just ruin your day. If we can't win this game, you're not going to win your bets.


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[Assistant] So he says they're all aware of the points, right? Every player, every coach knows that what, not in the moment.


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[Assistant] RJ, curious, any key takeaways from week two for you?


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[Assistant] Alright, well let's get into, uh, week three, because we have a lot of games that we have to...


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[Assistant] Get by, uh, please note guys that all odds, uhm, and lines are subject to change all the way up until kickoff. We are hitting these at about 2pm on Thursday. There will likely be some movement, so go ahead and check with your book, uh, before you tail any of these bets.


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[Assistant] Starting with the Titans at the Browns. Browns are laying three and a half. This total 39 and a half. Obviously the Browns coming off of a huge injury and blow to their season with


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb, uhm, and RJ, you can, you can tell me about this, but I saw something that said that Nick Chubb was worth like almost a whole point against the spread. I think it was like .75. So this loss, and we've seen it change a lot of their futures odds, but just how big of a loss, uhm, in the gambling world is Nick Chubb?


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[Assistant] Uh, no, I lean with you guys on Tennessee here, but I'm gonna take this under 39 and a half. I read a stat this morning that was pretty impressive. Through the first two games, the Browns defense has yet to allow an opposing offense to run a play inside


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[Assistant] The red zone, uh, the offense, of course, now without Nick Chubb, led by Deshaun Watson. Less impressive.


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[Assistant] Watson is 26th in success rate, 27th in sack rate. And I do believe that Tennessee's defense is a little bit underrated in my opinion. I do think that they can wreak havoc on Watson. The Titans were able to put up 27 against LA, but the Chargers can't stop anything. I see this game being closer to maybe the Saints game in week one.


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[Assistant] Where Tennessee only dropped 15 points, so I will take that under 39 and a half.


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[Assistant] Lotta points. Any, any thoughts from you Propstars about Herbert in that game?


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, good to know. Alright, moving on. The Patriots and the Jets. Traditionally, uh, Belichick just absolutely owns the Jets. They cannot get a win there. Line is two and a half. Over, under, anywhere from 36 and a half to 37, uh, depending on where you get it, but I will say that there is a,


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[Assistant] All that to be said, I'm taking the under. I kinda liked the under before I knew, uh, what the weather was going to be like. Look, the Patriots offense actually hasn't looked...


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[Assistant] Bad? I mean, not as bad as I think, at least me that I thought they were going to be. Mack Jones has had his moments. Kendrick Bourne has been a bright spot, had two touchdowns versus the Eagles, none last week.


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[Assistant] The Jets secondary, uhm, is legit. They were able to hold Dallas to quite a few field goals, uhm, last week. But I do think that the Jets defense is getting a little bit worn out. They've been on the field for 151 plays. That's the most in the NFL so far this season.


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[Assistant] But I just think that this one, weather and the two defenses is gonna be a slugfest. So even though it's really low at 37, I'll still go under.


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[Assistant] That was an interesting one. Good stat, RJ. Yeah, great stat. Uh, well, there's three games that are stuck in this.


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[Assistant] The sound effects are really what did it for me there, Brinson. Alright, the next, there's three games that are going to be affected by the tropical.


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[Assistant] Cyclone. Next one. Bills at, uh, Commanders. Bills laying six and a half. Coming off a huge bounce back for them. Josh Allen. Three touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Uh, RJ, any thoughts on this game? I know you don't have a best bet, but any leans?


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[Assistant] Well, I like a whiteout too with, uh, Penn State. That's always a fun game.


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[Assistant] Any props that you are interested in? I know you don't have a best bet again for this game. Baltimore has been kind of up and down with injuries. Anyone you've kind of zeroed in on?


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[Assistant] Also Richardson, if he does play, he's been kind of a cash cow for an anytime touchdown. Doesn't protect himself very well, but he's been getting in the end zone.


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[Assistant] It would be the first time that Jacksonville has won in the Trevor Lawrence era as a home favorite. Really? Yea, their own.


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[Assistant] Alright, next up, Falcons at Detroit. Detroit coming off of a heartbreaking loss to Seattle. Big upset last week. Lions laying a field goal, total 46 and a half. Prop stars, you've got a prop for us here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't, look, I'm taking something kind of ugly. I'm going to take Russell Wilson over one and a half passing touchdowns at plus one 23. And I agree with you, Wilson. I do think this might be a little bit of a shootout. No, I don't think that Denver is going to win this game, but they're definitely going to be playing from behind. Uh, when you got the NFL's best offense right now in Miami, Wilson's definitely going to be airing it out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's some, there's some remnants of that in there. And yes, there is the Vic Fangio revenge game angle. So that's a little bit worrisome. He's definitely going to be under pressure, but he has cleared this in back to back games, five passing touchdowns.


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[Assistant] 45. Well, buy it down if you want to. Alright, we're gonna take a quick break here, but we come back. We're gonna take a look at the afternoon games. You're watching Pick Six. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] I love the Seahawks here too. And Brynson, you and I both got this at six. It's six and a half now. How high would you play this Brynson? Not more than a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I'm still taking the six. I'm taking the six, uh, with Seattle. I just feel like maybe they're banged up, but Seattle is a good team and Carolina is still kind of figuring it out.


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[Assistant] Yes, Seattle lost to the Rams, but that's kind of how it always works out. We've talked about on the show, Pete just can't seem to beat McVay.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and the Rams are better than everybody thought they were going to be coming into the season. The Hawks comeback win against Detroit was really impressive, especially


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[Assistant] Against Matt Stafford and Jared Goff. Either it's Bryce Young who's been struggling or Andy Dalton that has a hard time putting points on the board as well. So I will still uhm.


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[Assistant] I'll still lay the six points with uh, with Seattle. Alright, moving on. The Bears.


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[Assistant] At Kansas City, I will say, I was watching a clip of Up and Adams, K Adams show, and she thinks that the Bears can beat the Kansas City Chiefs, which I am high on the Bears.


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[Assistant] But I am not that high on the bears. Uh, this line...


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[Assistant] Well, well, okay, we're not getting into that. Uhm, Kansas City minus 12 and a half over under 48 and a half. Uhm,


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[Assistant] Again, I feel like I'm on a bunch of really gross props today, but I think that Justin Fields can get, uh, over on his passing yard, which was 171 and a half.


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[Assistant] This prop total, uhm, he's also gone over the average for his season prop. It's 180 yards, so that's by 33 and a half. The Chiefs are ranked 19th in their pass defense, are allowing 223 and a half passing yards per game. The only thing that worries me about this with him, because he has been throwing the ball a lot, is that


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[Assistant] And then they realize it doesn't work and then they just let him run the ball. So hopefully they don't do that this week and just change the course and they continue to let him throw the ball.


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[Assistant] There's no way I would ever take the Bears, even the 12 and a half. But uhm, but I do think that Fields is going to get over this, this one second one.


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[Assistant] I do. And look, I wasn't willing to take the double digits with the bears, uh, as dogs against the, uh, chiefs, but I am willing to take


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[Assistant] The 12 and a half Cardinals, uh, take those points there versus the Cowboys. Look, the Cowboys have a plus 60 point differential, but they've benefited from very, very high turnover rates from their opponents.


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[Assistant] of drives. The Cardinals are minus seven and considered one of the weaker teams in the NFL, but they've been a little bit more impressive on offense than I would have thought. And you just have to think that there's got to be a little bit of regression coming for Dallas with this kind of, I don't want to say it's luck because the point differential or the turnover differential, but


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[Assistant] The Giants were so bad in week one that I think the hype on this Dallas defense is just a little bit too high. And RJ, you can probably talk to this more, but 10 is really a key number in terms of frequency of margin of victory in the NFL. So a point spread over, you know, 10.


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[Assistant] Yeah, totally. Uh, alright, Pittsburgh Steelers coming off of a pretty big win there on third, Thursday night? Or was that Monday night? Monday night. Monday night. Yeah, today's Thursday, so that would be Monday night.


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[Assistant] The Niners are playing tonight. Hell yeah. Anyways, but that was mostly due to defense. Uh, Pittsburgh defense had two turnovers that resulted.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Kenny, Kenny Pickett, for someone who looked so good in the preseason and went five for five with touchdowns every time that he was in, he has struggled mightily.


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[Assistant] Uh, and obviously Matt Canada, a lot of people seem to blame him for everything, rightfully so. Raiders favorite here, minus two and a half, this total.


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[Assistant] 43, uh, prop stars, what are you looking at for this?


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[Assistant] It's like in the NBA when they get that one at the south beach flu.


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[Assistant] Uh, real quick, cause we gotta get out of here, we're already over time, but tonight, Niners, Giants, Niners, like, I think 10 and a half at this point.


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[Assistant] Yes, because the Giants have been- by the way, that's why I'm wearing my Kittle shirt today. The Giants have been vulnerable to tight ends. And George Kittle in prime time is when he comes alive. You saw that-


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[Assistant] Deebo Samuel had the bulk of the, uh, the work last week. Are you still dealing with a little bit of, uh, of an injury? So yeaah, give me George Kittle all day long.


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[Assistant] Well, Wallerford and Anytime Touchdown, I believe, is like three to one too, which I actually love that, uhm, a lot. Alright, I've took up too much time talking about the 49ers. Thank you everyone for joining us today. Make sure that you, uh,


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[Assistant] Join us on Sunday for the Super Friends show, uhm, and more NFL coverage next week. Remember to like, comment, subscribe on the YouTube page. If you're listening to the audio version only, download, follow, leave a five-star review, and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. Good luck on your bets next weekend, and the Super Friends will see you for a recap Sunday night.


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[Assistant] Uh, I enjoyed it. I, I, I like that Kirk Cousins. Um, yeah. How you like that? I would say that, uh, you know, it's, it's weird. Like we do these, we've been doing these shows for so long.


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[Assistant] They're like, sometimes you forget like when you like, like Wilson popped out of a meeting like last week and was like.


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[Assistant] How are, how are you doing, Brinson? I was like, I guess, I guess I don't talk to you every day. We talked for work purposes every day for like 10 years.


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[Assistant] This is the trickiest like contract situation. First of all, I think that Sunday's game between the dogs and the Chargers was perfectly emblematic of like.


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[Assistant] What Miami is in terms of a football team and like what you can ex like like why it was so difficult to decide what to do with the Dolphins this year. Like what a breeches hot takes was the Dolphins finishing last place in the division because like even that entire game.


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[Assistant] You sort of wondered like, is Tua gonna make it through this? Like every time there was a sack or every time he was on the ground or every time he had to, like he was running, running, running for a first down and he slid. It was like, ah, don't bang your head.


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[Assistant] And then at the same time, you have him like stepping up in the pocket and delivering dimes down the field of Tyreek Hill or hitting Tyreek Hill for that touchdown pass, um, late in the game, like Tua did so much good stuff that if you, if you knew, if you told me he was going to be healthy for the whole season and that


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[Assistant] And that he wouldn't have offensive line issues and that they would be able to play like this offensively.


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[Assistant] It's just, it's, it's just a hard, it's, the Dolphins is a hard thing to figure out and they handle the Chargers or they handle the Chargers. They storm back and beat the Chargers. Fourth most passing yards of all time in week one by a quarterback at 466 behind Dan Brady. Tom Brady and, uh, Sammy Ball maybe.


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[Assistant] Norman Brocklin. That's it. Norman Brocklin, Tom Brady and Dan Marino. So two Dolphins quarterbacks. He's not even the number one Dolphins week one passing yard guy breach. But I mean, I think like,


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[Assistant] It was a crazy game. It was, it really helped salvage kind of a really, really slow and boring.


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[Assistant] Uh, early, early portion of the slate, but man, I mean, like if this, if two will play 17 games, the Dolphins are going to be a threat to make some noise in the postseason.


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[Assistant] Get you a thesaurus, pal. Get a thesaurus or dictionary, right?


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[Assistant] You know, we thought the chargers would be, would, you know, the chargers traditionally are just underbrained sailing are not very good at stopping the run.


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[Assistant] And everyone sort of thought that Raheem Mosher would go nuts, would run the ball over the place. Um, and it just turned out they just needed to throw and like get the ball and Tyree kills hands.


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[Assistant] It was like, Ty was a Tyree Kill and Jaylen Waddle show. And I mean, obviously Tyree had way more yards and two more touchdowns than Waddle, but it's like, Tyree Kill was unstoppable in that game.


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[Assistant] I don't think you can pay somebody who missed, who's like thought about retiring 55 million a year.


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[Assistant] Right. It's a ridiculous contract. I think you can, I think I'd be fine doing something with two, uh, and look, this is one week. Let's get through the season. Right? Okay. So yeah.


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[Assistant] I think, I think, I think a two-week contract would need to have very intricate and, um, specialized clauses in it about injuries.


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[Assistant] Uh, brought pretty sort of tipped his, uh, pass. It tipped his tipped his plays or the San Francisco offense tipped his plays and he would have an interception. And, uh, our, our good friend, uh, Brian McFadden was like, yeah, that's what I love to hear. And, um, brought pretty through some shade at Pat P in the post game.


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[Assistant] I think for Purdy, it kinda, it's, it's not that dissimilar from Tua, right? Where you have all the, again, you have Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDaniel, right? Same, same sort of system that they come from. Uh, Mike McDaniel was the, of course the, the run game coordinator. Was he the offensive coordinator or was he just run game?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but he was never the OC, he was just run game coordinator then jumped to be, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so.


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[Assistant] You've got, and you've got the system with, it's like where it's, I read about this on, in short of the semi-final, but it's like, where does he get all these wonderful toys? And you don't have to be this elite quarterback. You have to be an elite decision maker. Good Lord.


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[Assistant] That is a man who fell in his face. Uh, you would be an elite decision maker who could distribute the ball well and Brock Purdy did that a lot last year and he just did it again against the Steelers on Sunday.


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[Assistant] 19 to 29, 220 yards, two touchdowns. Like not a perfect day, but man, he looks really, really sharp.