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[Assistant] Yeah, it's sort of on my Instagram feed. It was like, it's like, come on down and check out the Jim Orsay collection. I was like, God dang it. That makes me so mad. Why does he have Jerry Garcia's final guitar? Um, cause Orsay annoys me at this point.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's, I told you he was still my top five. The thing, Ursay, for me, my concern is that, like, I think he's too involved with this team. He's just, he's, he, like,


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[Assistant] And now it's a little different right now because you have Chris Ballard, who's the established GM, but he's being told sort of like, I think they probably liked Anthony Richardson.


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[Assistant] But they definitely like to have the Richardson, but I think or say it was like, we're taking a quarterback and Richardson was very intriguing to him as a high upside guy. And so, you know, like he hired Jeff Saturday midway through the season. That is.


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[Assistant] One of the most insane things has happened in the last 20 years of the NFL. Like he fired Frank Reich, then bragged about Frank Reich's winning record as Colts coach. And then like at the hiring of Jeff Saturday, it's absolutely insane. So my thing with the Colts is I really liked the idea of Anthony Richardson in this offense.


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[Assistant] The hype at a training camp has got me a little nervous about fading the Colts, um, because he has massive, massive upside, but I am going to take.


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[Assistant] I believe the under here on their win total. I don't look, I don't love taking the under here at six and a half. As I mentioned, you can see teams get to seven and 10 easily in a seven and a 17 game schedule. And if they beat the Texans in week two,


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[Assistant] On the road, all of a sudden it sort of flips where you might feel about Houston, about Indianapolis or those tackles out. That's certainly a concern. So, uh, but I don't trust the defense with Gus Bradley there.


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[Assistant] If the offensive line comes back, gets back to where it was a few years ago and Jonathan Taylor plays up to his level and Anthony Richardson opens up holes for the run game and Anthony Richard is as advertised, then they could blow this number out of the water. And I think Emory's pick to win the AFC South is not that crazy at all. I'm just on the other side of the fence and I'm sure I won't regret it by week two.


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[Assistant] Not so much the idea that uhm, the titans will be great because I don't know that I trust them like out in the open market, but I do think that Mike variables.


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[Assistant] I don't know, probably still the best coach in the division. Like, I mean, I'd be fine with Doug Peterson too.


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[Assistant] But like Mike Raible, Mike Raible has done a lot with a little in Tennessee, um, over the past few years. And you see, yeah, I mean, see that number, like, like that's probably the smart play over two, but you would take the over two and a half, right, Emory?


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[Assistant] Yeah, like they'll beat everybody once. And so I'm going to take the plus money here at plus one 40 at the over three and a half. I mean, I don't, I don't love this. I don't love a whole, I like, I don't like messing around with the Titans a whole lot. Although I did, I do think that


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[Assistant] And I think that's a possibility given there's some job security there for the, you know, you got a new GM, Mike Vrabel has job security. I don't like they're going to test out Will Levesse and Ryan Tannell's final year of his contract. So like if he struggles, so that's, that's my big concern there.


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[Assistant] So good. I've had to head with Emory, uh, on, on back to back. What could go wrong for me? The AFC South where we are head to head. Uh, tell you who's head to head. If you watch a CBS Sports HQ, Evan Washburn and Pete Prisco head to head talking about gag wars. What was said? Oh, great. I'll tell you next and then we'll make some, uh, Jaguars picks as well after this break next.


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[Assistant] So, uh, funny is, uh, there's, they did some graphic like on CBS Sports HQ of just like Pete Prisco, mayor of Jacksonville. And Evan Washburn came on and was like, he's like, Evan, like, did you, you know, and he goes, well.


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[Assistant] I don't know. He's like, maybe they just, he's like, I, you know, he's like, I really just stuck to talking about football, not politics and mayors like Pete brisk. It was like, uh, it was like an unexpected hilarious shot. Um, any who Jacksonville Jaguars, very hyped up this season. Emory.


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[Assistant] I think I went over division wins here. Uhm, and again, like Titans and Jaguars. It's like, it's tough to, you know, it's tough to get both over, but I think sort of like.


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[Assistant] Those are the two teams where I trust the coaching and then I trust the talent here. I agree that the cam Robinson thing is interesting too. Pete Prisco correctly pointed out that, um, Robinson is eligible to come back in week five, which is their second game in London.


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[Assistant] Against the, um, against the Bills. So like he can't be with the team in London during the first game that they're there. So would they fly him over halfway through and he plays like the, you know, like that's a tricky thing too. Like if little and Harrison are playing well, do you even bring in Robinson? It's a,


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[Assistant] And if little and hair should have played well, then it's also like a whole different ball game in terms of what we, you know, what we see from this offense. My, my, my over for the Jaguars is mostly grounded in a, just a full blown belief in Trevor Lawrence as a future superstar possible MVP candidate this year.


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[Assistant] Breakout, if you will, and like getting good coaching from Doug Peterson versus what he was getting from, from Urban Meyer. So I got the over on the Jaguars divisional win total.


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[Assistant] I have no problem with that over four and a half at plus 130. That's a good bet. I got the Chiefs regular season over. Uhm, look, this is pretty simple math. It's Andy Reed. Andy Reed has gone under his win total once since arriving in Kansas City in 2013. Actually hasn't gone under once. He pushed once.


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[Assistant] Cause it was an even 12, I believe, um, in Patrick home's like third season or something like that. So if you're giving me plus money where they have to go five and one in the division, yeah, I'll take it. The Broncos are better with Sean Payton. Of course we'll get to them in a second. The chargers have Justin Herbert. We'll get to them in a second. The Raiders don't look like they're going to be that good. No offense to Jimmy, Jimmy G the chiefs are the chiefs just won the Superbowl and I feel like they're going to have a chip on their shoulder again.


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[Assistant] Over four and a half in the division. And then as Emory said, minus 165 to win the division is so short still for this team. This is the best team in the division by a long shot. They should be minus 300 to win this division. Minus 250 at the absolute stone cold lowest. So I love them to win the division. I love their over win totals.


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[Assistant] Fading the Chiefs is a fool's errand with Patrick Holmes and Andy Reid.


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[Assistant] You know, we don't, one of the interesting things, Bill Barnwell wrote about this at Grantland.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly, right? Bill Simmons left and started left. It was a spin off of ESPN. They shuttled it and it was basically the ringer, but it was with ESPN. Uh, but Cole Barnwell wrote about this and I'm kind of surprised Bill hadn't brought it back, but.


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[Assistant] The concept is there's no salary cap for coaches.


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[Assistant] You could spend whatever you want on a head coach at the NFL or a coaching staff in the NFL. There's zero restriction.


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[Assistant] If you're a Billy, so like, let's think about it. It's like auto racing, right? Like you look at a NASCAR versus a formula or a formula one NASCAR.


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[Assistant] All the cars, it's stock, stock racing. They're all, they have to be stock. They all have to be the same. There's nothing you can do to change it.


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[Assistant] In, in, with, with, with coaching staffs, it's like F1. You can spend, you're, if you're a billionaire, why are you being cheap on your coaching staff?


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[Assistant] Like the Broncos, and this is before obviously the Walton family bought them, but you know, the previous owners had plenty of money too. The Bolans were plenty rich. They're like, yeah, let's just try Nathaniel Hackett.


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[Assistant] Owners should way more, should so much more frequently load up on coaches, spend tons of money on coaching staffs, get better coaching staffs. There's a huge edge here. And I say all this to point out that Nathaniel Hackett.


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[Assistant] Was terrible. And Sean Payton is one of the best two, in my opinion, play callers and offensive binds behind only Andy Reed of the last 20 years. And so I think Sean Payton is going to get this team. He's going to get this comments about Russell Wilson, his comments about Hackett.


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[Assistant] The jet stuff unnecessary, that notwithstanding clearly indicated to me a guy who thinks he can get the most out of Russell Wilson and I expect nine plus wins. A winning season nine and eight is not, is not that big of a stretch for Sean Payton in the Broncos.


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[Assistant] It's when they want exactly 12 games and like Derek Hart broke his leg and like they require like Derek Hart breaking his leg not to win more than 12 games, but like the fact that they won 12 games was just with Jack Del Rio and Derek Hart was just insane. At any rate.


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[Assistant] I'm going to take the juice here and lay the under two and a half division wins at minus one 90. Uh, I admittedly, when I picked the Raiders division wins, I didn't realize it was minus one 90. I'm probably not betting that because like,


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[Assistant] You get one, you know, something goes just a little haywire, right? Like Justin Herbert or Patrick Mahomes suffer a high ankle sprain midway through the season and the Raiders catch a lucky win there. They beat the Broncos. But I mean, you think about it, man, like,


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[Assistant] Josh McDaniels has not been impressive since he got to Las Vegas.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he wasn't impressive in Denver at all. Of course. He did have a good hot stretch to start the seats to start the to start his career there. But then like he nothing's been great. Jimmy G's banged up.


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[Assistant] There's a lot, not the Josh Jacobs stuff is lingering. You know, the defense, I just don't think has a whole lot going for it. They still, I mean.


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[Assistant] And this is the messaging I think they're putting across like to, to ownership, but like they're still dealing with the fallout from, you know, Mike Mayock and John Gruden and all the bad draft classes that they had. And it's, you know, they, they, they had like,


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[Assistant] Seven first round picks in a three year span or four year span and they whiffed on basically all of them. Josh Jacobs, the only one who's worked out for him. When you do that, you are going to stink. Like your roster is just not going to be good. You can't whiff on that many first round picks. And so, um, I don't know if you can parlay so anything.


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[Assistant] Laying like two to one for, for that over full season is a bit much. Um, but, but I would lean towards the under there for the Raiders third division.


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[Assistant] There are two teams in the past 10 years, 10 plus years, where you haven't seen it come back to the middle. Washington, and they've changed it up a little bit with their training staff, got a little bit better. And the Chargers, who just are injured every single year. I don't know if it's something that ownership does, if it's something the training staff does, I don't know if it's something in the water.


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[Assistant] They've moved cities, so it should have changed, but it just doesn't. Their guys just get hurt. And it's something organizationally that I think that they haven't looked at enough. Um, Justin Herbert, I think he's great. I'll let Emily talk about that.


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[Assistant] But like this, they have enough on this, on this roster on both sides of the ball where they should win 10 games easily. I will take the under division wins though, three and a half because


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[Assistant] You do have the Raiders who are a little frisky. And you have the Broncos who are a much better team now. And then you have the Chiefs. Like it's, you're asking them to win four games in this division. That's hard to do in this AFC West. So I'll take the under three and a half at minus one four.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, Sean Payton wanted that job there, and Tom Tolesco didn't want to let him get it because he knew that he would end up getting fired as a result, so he wanted to keep Brandon Staley. And if the Broncos are great, the Chargers miss the playoffs, uhm, that should be on everybody.


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[Assistant] They, they really don't, you know, affect my mood like that. I just, I'm just glad to see them do well. Uh, but it, it really bothers me is when our rivals, uh, and there's two of them, um, there's UL Monroe and, or Louisiana Tech.


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[Assistant] Now, Louisiana Tech is a little bit more ornery, but UL Monroe is like, when they win, it's like, damn.


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[Assistant] Like we let these dudes beat us, you know, and that's the one thing. Um, but this year we don't have to worry about none of that. You know, we're going to defeat it. So.


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[Assistant] Like peacocking around. I will say this though, in quick side story, my college thesis was, it was, my communications thesis was


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[Assistant] Taking a natural phenomenon, which was the theory of locus of control, where we believe outside forces control our everyday life.


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[Assistant] And when the Saints won a loss, how good my week was. And it was, I said, it was over 2000, the 2002 season. And it was like, when the Saints won, I seemed like I passed all my tests.


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[Assistant] I found money on the ground. I remember one time the Saints lost to the Vikings on that stupid fumble two point conversion when they had the gold jerseys on.


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[Assistant] Frabbro that work on Wall Street, that's, uh, you know what? That's the perfect description.


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[Assistant] I can post for you to your height too, because we are the same height. I might be a half inch taller than you.


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[Assistant] So final. Uhm, but I'm gonna say that is reality.


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[Assistant] Uh, because there is a type for Kyle Shanahan. It's, it's not the super talented type. It's a guy that is, you know, average skillset that he can make look like a quarterback genius by having him throw dump off soft play action in the flat, right?


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[Assistant] But he also drafted the guy that is going to be on the out third overall. But then it also, when this shows that this guy may not be ready to go, then you start to hear stuff leak out about how I wanted this guy, I wanted that guy. Like, I think this is a reality.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I hate how teams leak out these negative reports about players.


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[Assistant] Right. And now, and now they got Purdy and now they don't want, they didn't want Mack anymore, but they leak all these negative reports out about a player only to then turn around and say, well, we want value for them. We want some picks in return, but like, well, you just trashed them. Cut them and let them go. I'm not giving you nothing. You know? So this reality.


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[Assistant] Chargers, Ravens, Chiefs, Eagles, Cowboys, Dolphins, Bengals, Seattle, San Francisco. That's nine.


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[Assistant] Right, cause you have, I got nine, because you got, uhm,


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[Assistant] The Steelers offense on paper looks good, but now where do you, do you put them over the Bills, the Browns, the Jets, or the Packers, right? That's the worst.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying that right now. So I'm looking at, I'm looking at uhm, with the Jags, if you want to throw the Jags in there, that's fine too, but that 9th spot, or that 10th spot is where you think Pittsburgh is. Now, that is going to require a


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[Assistant] Extremely. Extremely large jump from a guy that threw seven touchdowns and nine picks last year. So I need to see that happen before I can get on board with that. Uhm, and top ten offense, man, that's...


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[Assistant] That's asking a lot when we're looking at a lot of these already explosive offenses that we, that are established and potential explosive offenses that we expect.


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[Assistant] to come into the league. So this, this will be tough. They can have a top 15 offense and still be a really good offense, but top 10, although savvy by Jeff is a little bit too much for me. So I think it's nonsense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause I, is he healthy now? Cause he didn't play last week. Cause he was hurt.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, he's not even healthy enough to compete. If he was competing, they were going toe to toe.


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[Assistant] You know, so the last image we got of him actually playing ball for the Titans was throwing a game, losing interception. Like what, what do we even talk about here? So it is nonsense because this is the second year.


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[Assistant] Uhm, with this offensive personnel from Malik Willis, he's healthy.


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[Assistant] He's been consistent. He played a good game against Chicago. Up and down game, having to play the whole game against their last opponent, the Colts I believe, or whoever they played last week. Uhm, so.


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[Assistant] Lepus hadn't played enough, and it'll, and this is someone.


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[Assistant] Coming off of an injury plague senior season and now already is banged up with a thigh injury, I believe.


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[Assistant] Uh, if reports are coming out that he had his leg was wrapped even eating practice yesterday, um, through a little bit, but didn't practice like, no, so it's nonsense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's so nonsense and is Taylor even healthy? Like every picture I see of him, he limping around like someone that has not only an ankle injury, but he's walking like his back hurts. That's how I walk with my back hurts, right? And so I feel like we don't even know if he's healthy yet.


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[Assistant] They have to understand cooler heads will prevail. He'll be on the team and he'll play at some point during the season for the Indianapolis Colts.


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[Assistant] I was the most athletic. We gave that to, uh, Scott Vandermeer who, great friend of mine, actually his mom did my knee surgery in high school. He ended up getting drafted by the Tampa Bay Devil Rays at the time.


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[Assistant] So he was a great, he should have been a quarterback. Scott was like Drew Blatt, so he should have been playing football with us. But, uh, he was a great baseball player, but I was most humorous.


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[Assistant] I am a big philosophy guy. I told you guys that. I don't know about you, but I told you guys that. So these are always phenomenal for me. These like 1984 and philosophy. Dr. Seuss.


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[Assistant] Jamiri Gibbs most likely be the next 1,000, 1,000 guy. That's 1,000 yards rushing, 1,000 yards receiving. And if we want to take it a step further, just because Ms. Catherine Mox is on the show.


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[Assistant] It'll be more consistent of a thousand yard rusher than Christian McCaffrey.


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[Assistant] But that he rushed for a thousand yards his entire career, but that-


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[Assistant] Quietly ain't the case. Uhm, but Gibbs to me has that level of, I don't need the ball much to make a thousand yards and also the receiving threat as well. Uh, and on the flip side of that, Brian Bressi of the New Orleans Saints would be the


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[Assistant] How did this guy last to the end of the first round type guy moving forward? Because we remember how he was as a freshman.


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[Assistant] And then he had the injury against Georgia, his second season. And then this past year he was dealing with life issues.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's hard to deal with, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] In recovering from injury, a knee injury, like that's a lot. So him getting back healthy mentally and then physically, this is still a top eight.


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[Assistant] So I expect him to have that significant jump, uh, in his play and people will be like, man, how do you last so long?


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[Assistant] I have three, and uh, two are in the NFL, one obviously is in the CFL, but that's just what I do. I love it. You guys, as much as people love passing the ball in this country, I'm surprised the CFL isn't a big thing in the United States. It is weird. It should be more popular. A lot of people just like to lie online.


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[Assistant] I digress. I will go with the Chargers plus seven and a half against San Francisco. Uhm, I like the Chargers makeup. First of all, they are probably one of the only NFL teams that subscribe to the football game plan draft guy because they drafted


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[Assistant] Four of my top rated prospects over the last two draft classes. Really?


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[Assistant] My number one guard, Jordan McFadden. My number one inside linebacker, Deion Hindley. My number one slot corner, Asante Samuel Jr. My number two pass rusher, Intuitu Pilatu out of USC. Another highly top 10 pass rusher I had in, uh, Andrew Farmer out of Lane College. They had him on their roster.


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[Assistant] So they took my number one guard in 2021 in Zion Johnson. I am a big fan of what the Chargers have done personnel wise because I feel like I built their team. But.


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[Assistant] I think they could knock out San Francisco, especially if we don't know what we're going to get from Trey Lance now, that all of this news is, why does this news have to break before a game? And maybe it's psychological that the coaches do, like, I'm going to give you a start.


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[Assistant] This is what they're saying about you. Go out there and prove them wrong. So we could get a great game, which that means I think the game will be close. So I like the charters plus the points here. Seven and a half is too much. Cardinals, obviously this was before they traded Isaiah Simmons to the Giants, but...


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[Assistant] I like how they compete. They compete hard in these preseason games. Sands last week they got blown out, but I do think the Vikings are in trouble this year in the NFC North. I know you can't take too much from preseason, but


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[Assistant] Their backup quarterback situation is questionable at best. I feel like this is an opportunity for the Cardinals to get themselves a win. And in the CFL,


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[Assistant] Tonight, or maybe this week, I can't remember which one it is. I'll have an article coming out, uhm, after we're done with this podcast, I'll tweet it out and post it on sportsline.


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[Assistant] But I like the Winnipeg Blue Bombers minus eight and a half. And I think this line has jumped up even more to 10 points. I like this. Last week they got out of uh, you know, Dodge Alive on a pick six against Calgary that gave them the 1918 win.


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[Assistant] Uhm, this is a, this is a team that has the best defense in the CFL. A rotation of pass rushers.


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[Assistant] And they're getting their starting quarterback who is right there with Chad Kelly for most outstanding player award in the CFL is Zach Calero. So when you factor in, factor in all of these aspects.


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[Assistant] They're going to beat the doors off of their opponent this weekend. Lay the eight and a half or 10 if it's up there now with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. There is Steamrolls Ward, which should have been.


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[Assistant] They're Fort, Fourth Street, Green Cup. You know, they lost last year to Toronto, ironically.


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[Assistant] That would be a miscarriage of justice in terms of acquiring assets to then give it to a guy that was already on your roster, you know, to go and get Swift, to go and get Rashad, you know, and so.


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[Assistant] Hello and welcome to the Pick 6 podcast. Katie Mox and Will Brinson here and this is our All 32 series.


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[Assistant] The series where we catch you up with insiders and give you the need to know information on every NFL team. Today we're covering the Jacksonville Jaguars. I say Jaguars, but we'll say it properly for Pete Prisco here today because we've got Prisco with us, senior NFL columnist for CBS sports.com and a former


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[Assistant] Maybe so. This is a great moment for me. It's me, Brady Quinn, and now Pete Priscoe. I'm sorry. And John Breach!


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[Assistant] Well, let's get into Trevor Lawrence a little bit further here. Coming off of his breakout season, aka one year without Urban Meyer, Trevor Lawrence is 15 to 1 to win MVP. He's ranked highly on your top 100 NFL players list. What is the ceiling for Trevor Lawrence this year?


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[Assistant] When you talk about people that will be better, you know, there was one person that was absent last year and that was Calvin Ridley, uhm, who was expected to have a huge impact this year on the offense. How much do you think that Ridley will, uhm, impact Lawrence's progression this season?


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[Assistant] It's gonna be really interesting to see how that plays out. Uh, Pete, when you look at the defense, alright, the Jags defense ranked 26th in football outsiders DVOA and very poorly against the pass, although top 10 against the run in several traditional metrics.


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[Assistant] Who needs to break out in 2023 for this defense to be upper echelon?


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[Assistant] Alright, so we know that you like Trevor Lawrence to win MVP at 15-1. Trevor Lawrence to have the most regular season passing yards.


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[Assistant] Also 15 to 1, his uh, passing arts prop for the season, 3,950 and a half, 26 and a half touchdowns. How are you gonna play Lawrence Futures?


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[Assistant] So we know that you're hammering the over on touchdown passes for Trevor Lawrence. Interestingly, when I look at Calvin Ridley and his regular season touchdowns, it's at five and a half with the under juice to 140. Is that a little disrespectful there for Calvin Ridley?


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[Assistant] Alright, that's going to do it for us today. Pete, thank you so much for joining us. We know that you are a busy man. You can find Pete's articles on CBSsports.com and also as an analyst on CBS Sports HQ. Stay tuned for more from our All 32 series with Daily Drops in your podcast feed and on YouTube. Remember to like, comment, and subscribe on this video.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and thank you for speaking Jagwires with us today, Pete. I appreciate it.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I feel alive. Uhm, I'm pretty pumped like Breach, Breach redid, you got a brand new office. Clearly like life change is happening for him and I got a brand new hat from the kind folks at Megacorp. You may remember them from being the chief sponsor of Brian Harmon.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, it's from the base out of the base out of Wilmington. They're a logistic freight company. Um, and, uh, my buddy, I got a couple of buddies who work there and, um, we were texting about it. He was like, I'll send you some Megacorp stuff. So he was like, yeah.


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[Assistant] Bring some socks for those watching, listening to the audio version.


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[Assistant] To be clear, let's, let's set the stage. Last week, Bigelow's training camp starts. Joe Burrow, um, is rolling out to his right on a, on a practice play and non-contact pulls up a limp, goes down to the ground and is grabbing his calf. And it felt like in the moment, Breach, I don't know about you, but like there's a big old super fan. It felt like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, bro, actually, I believe I like the six cause this happened on Thursday, I think. Or maybe it was it Wednesday or Thursday? I think it was, I think it was.


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[Assistant] Maybe it was one of those two days, whatever the case, whatever the case may be. Uh, this happened last week. Um, Burrow that same day had in his press conference before the practice, I believe, or the day, maybe it was Wednesday night and then Thursday this happened. He said,


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[Assistant] I'm glad to finally have a season where I don't have to like...


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[Assistant] Basically get ready in seven days because like I had seven days to practice because of some fluke injury and then immediately suffered that injury. I'm curious, do you think that they will? I was, I was, uh, talking with Nick Costas about this on, uh, you better, you bet last week, but like,


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[Assistant] I, I, I mean, I, he, Nick was bringing the point that he thinks they are going to bubble rap burro for the rest of the preseason, the rest of the training camp and preseason is just, you don't even mess with it because


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[Assistant] And one of those factors that comes into this is Burroughs new contract, right? Justin Herbert just got paid. Burroughs supposed to get paid. He's going to get more than Herbert. How much more, um, you know, do the bingles even mess around with like saying, hey Joe, I mean, of course we're going to pay you, but.


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[Assistant] If I'm burrow, I'm probably not being super aggressive about wanting to be out there and doing physical activity, knowing that a contract is coming up. But at the same time.


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[Assistant] Like Joe Burrow is not the type of dude to start to shy away from like being out there. Um, so I'm curious what you think about that from a, uh, uh, like what, like if, if Zach Taylor runs him out there, like later, like later this week, are you going to flip out?


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[Assistant] Like angles that you can take, but I'm curious if it changes your opinion on the AST North at all or like, or the Bengals win total.


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[Assistant] I don't want Breach to get mad at me over it, which means that Breach is going to have to pick the Bengals to win the Super Bowl in order to get me off of the Bengals, which would be even worse because then Breach knows that he would be the reason for the curse because he picked the Broncos last year. I digress. Um, I think that's,


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[Assistant] The bingo's price popping up a little bit for their, for the division win total. Like if it's me.


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[Assistant] The fact that it was a calf strain and he's not going to play, but there, but you're now getting a little more value and that Joe burrows done this twice already in the off season in the preseason where he didn't have training camp because of injury or had a major injury occurred the season before or during the ramp up or had the COVID year in 2020 when he was a rookie.


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[Assistant] I don't think it affects it a ton. So I want to buy in on the bingles sort of like a buy low, like you're buying a dip, buy the dip, right?


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[Assistant] That's at the, uh, the, buying the dip. I think that's the move here is you're getting a little dip, a little bit of value on the bingles because of this. Uh, so I'll, I'll put some, uh, I'd, I'd want to invest on the bingles, but would, I wouldn't, you know, I would shy away from like MVP burrows seven to one. That's a little short. Um,


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[Assistant] You know, given that it's not going to get any shorter, right? Like, Mahomes is plus 650 Burrows, 7 to 1. You can wait closer to the season and make sure he's fine if you want to invest in that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I think when you, from a fantasy perspective, same deal, right? By the dip, you're getting burrow and a little bit more of a discount. Um, I'm probably more likely to invest in like Lamar Jackson for fantasy purposes, just because you're going to get that rushing ability. But burrow and I think if you get, if you, if you draft burrow,


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[Assistant] When you're buying the dip, you want to target, uh, I'd have to look and Jamie, I'm sure Jamie has written or Jamie Dave or somebody who's written something like this on the site, but on cbsports.com, but you know, find it, find another, find a quarterback who has a soft schedule early in the season regard, like a sort of a compliment to bro on the team because at to breach his point.


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[Assistant] Look, we've seen the Bengals be very, very run heavy early in the season. They don't want to like have Burrow do a ton of drop backs when he's dealing with injury that happened with the ACL and having the appendix, like the, uh, the burst appendix. And I would think that it's probably going to happen on, you know, with a, with a, with a calf strain if he, if he sits out meaningful time this preseason.


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[Assistant] So I'm, I'm buying Higgins, I'm buying Chase, I'm buying Burrow cause I think it's a good buy low.


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[Assistant] For the player prop stuff, I need to see if there's still...


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[Assistant] If you get a discount on them, I'm fine with it. Like Chase's number is like 1200 maybe?


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[Assistant] It's like 1100, like receiving points. That's huge. I mean, it's just a big, it's not huge. It's a big number. He's easily going to go over that. If burrow plays 15, 16 games, which I think he will. So like I'm, I'm sure I'm, I'm, I'm buying low on the Bengals based on burrows injury.


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[Assistant] Who's he talking to? Oh, he's talking to Jared Bell of USA Today. Sorry. Uhm, and he, I mean, he went nuclear. He basically, and to me, so this is my biggest takeaway from this is that Sean Payton was attempting to shift the blame.


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[Assistant] From Russell Wilson to take, to absolve Russell Wilson of blame for the 2022 Broncos season and basically to completely bomb Nathaniel Hackett under the bus and to


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[Assistant] I'm a little intrigued by the Broncos because of this. Now, I think it was stupid to do all that. You didn't need to do, do it the way he did. He, he kind of got some stuff out there and then just kept spilling his freaking guts and like ripping the jets. He's like, I mean, he's like, trust me, like there was no need to rip the jets. You can rip the thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like, yeah, like Robert Sala and like say like, oh, they're on hard knocks. Like they're gonna suck this year because they're on hard. It's like all of that was wildly unnecessary. The stuff about to me, though, about the Bronco stuff specifically, you're talking about Hackett versus Russ. It says to me that he believes.


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[Assistant] That he can get good stuff out of Russell Wilson here because he is propping Russ up. It was one of two things. Either he believes Russ is good to go and that he's going to have a bounce back season or he thinks Russ is like psychologically soft and needs to be propped up because of that or Russ is like, it could be, could be one, it could be either or, um,


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[Assistant] You know, if, look, if the Rust thing doesn't work out, guess who's getting this treatment next off season? Russell. Like, you know, like, like Sean Payton is going to do the same because he's going to need to move the, move the blame around. He's not going to take it. He's going to win. We've talked about this. So I think.


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[Assistant] It makes me a little bullish on the Broncos just because it makes me believe that Sean Payton breach, um, who despite.


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[Assistant] What he said about his GM believes that Russell Wilson could be successful this year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I saw that article and I was like, that's a John Breach story. And of course it was, it was a John Breach story on cbsports.com. You can check it out there. I think one of the things that's interesting about the GM and the president stuff is it, it tells me that Sean Payton is reports to the ownership.


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[Assistant] Or George Payton. Sean Payton wasn't hired by, Sean Payton wasn't hired by the front office. Sean Payton was hired by the ownership. That's who he answers to. And that's how it was for him in New Orleans, ultimately. I mean, like, Nicky Loomis was the GM and technically his boss, but I mean, I think


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[Assistant] One, you have Russ as a possible scapegoat, you also have the GM and the president as a possible scapegoat, and you are undermining the two guys who, in every NFL team, at some point there's a power struggle in the front office, right?


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[Assistant] I mean almost universally doesn't matter who it is. Like even like Pete Carroll and John Schneider, their like level of authority and what, what powers, what certain powers they have has, you know, has changed over the years. Like their success.


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[Assistant] Gave John Schneider more cache, even though they came as a partnership. Sean McDermott. Same sort of thing. But in some organizations, when a new coach comes in, there's massive power shifts, right? And that's like Sean Payton.


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[Assistant] He wants to hire his own GM. Like that is just like obvious. And so I think what we'll see is maybe a little bit more of this, maybe him like mentioning the personnel issues or stuff like that, because eventually he's going to get to a spot where he wants to be able to hire his own, um, GM. And so I think that's, I think that's interesting from that perspective.


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[Assistant] Another team, like a possible hall of fame, like worthy coach is like, basically the jets are going to suck because they're on hard knocks. Like they're, the jets are going to be chippy about this and these two teams play in week five.


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[Assistant] Just doing a quick math here. Three, four other losses in one score games, not include five other losses in one score games, not including the overtime.


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[Assistant] So like, you're talking about a team that like lost a ton of 1-score games. Nine of their 12 losses by 1-score. There you go. Thank you, Rach, for doing the actual math instead of my, uh, cookie cutter, my, my, my, like, my fly-by-the-scene math. Um, yeah, the Princeton model. Like, when you have nine 1-score losses and three of them are in overtime, I mean, that tells me that in your offense is


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[Assistant] Trash, like it was under Nathaniel Hackett. If Sean Payne comes in there in the office, he's mid-level, like Mad Deese.


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[Assistant] Yeah. As the kids say, then you're going to get like those, those, those games are going to flip a little bit. So I, I like the Broncos a lot. I would, I think I'm still leaning jets over wind total. I won't be jumping on that. Um, probably prefer the jets to make the playoffs. I think it's like minus one 40 or something like that. Maybe one 50. I prefer that to their wind total. Cause I think you can win 10 games, the AFC and not like the playoffs, right? Sorry. You could, yes, you can win. They can go nine and


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[Assistant] I don't know what I'm saying. That didn't make sense what I'm saying, but you get the point. I like, I think the Jets make the playoffs as a wild card, but I'm not sure I trust him to get to 10 win. It's a tricky situation.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And it also worth noting, um, Raiders Washington at Miami at Chicago for the Broncos to start the season. That is a very, I mean, there seems winnable, very winnable schedule heading into the jets. All right. Uh, let's take a break. And when we come back, we will break down more NFL news from hashtag this league next.


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[Assistant] All right. So we did the all 32 series.


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[Assistant] Every NFL team, you should check it out. Talk to insiders from every NFL team. Breach hosted, uh, did you Breach, did the last one Breach?


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[Assistant] I didn't know Ryan Wilson was still around. Good for him. Uh, I thought he turned like 900 and moved to South Florida or something.


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[Assistant] I'm kidding. We love Wilson, but you know who else might be on the move? Jonathan Taylor.


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[Assistant] The Indianapolis Colts and Breach. Things got a little ugly when he made that request with, uh, very clearly to me, a certain country loving, uh, rock and roll owner stepping in.


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[Assistant] And just to be clear, I have a top five list that I provided Katie and uh, Jim Ursay definitely in the top five just by virtue of like how the other owners are all set up.


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[Assistant] Like I've seen Pete Prisket. We saw two Super Bowls in a row. We saw Mark Davis hanging out the 40 Super Bowl 49. We were in.


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[Assistant] Um, at this restaurant is like a bar in like downtown Phoenix. And we saw, I think I was with, uh, Darren Smith and Marty Caswell of city of, uh, actually of city radio fame. And, um, I, uh, we were like watching Mark Davis eat french fries because he was wearing this white jumpsuit and was like dipping them in ketchup.


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[Assistant] And then just holding these fries with like this, like loads of ketchup on top of over this white jumpsuit. We're just like, we were captivated watching this guy with his bowl cut. Like it's like, is he just like, how, like, how can he be so flagrant? Like flaunting this white jumpsuit with the ketchup, just waiting for it to drop. And then the next year, Pete Prisco is walking through this restaurant. He sees Mark Davis.


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[Assistant] And he goes over and goes, what's up Mark? Can we get a piece? And Mark Davis hands him a slice of pizza and then he's eating. And Pete just sits there like eats the pizza and chills and like chats up Mark Davis and then walks off. So I think that this is a pretty good answer.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, David Temper was like, I think Honorable Mention maybe? Uhm, like, by the fu- Oh, actually, that's right, I was, I was, Katie, I was doing this, I was like ripping him off division by division, I forgot about that. Uhm, I, the, uh,


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[Assistant] The type of dude who would be like, all right, look, I got to bounce. I'm going to take the helicopter out. Uh, tabs open, close it out, bring my card back.


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[Assistant] I like, I, I can't, I can't roll with you guys all night. Like, like I feel like when he and Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch go out, John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan, like Jed's not the guy who's like, oh, no, no, no, no. Jim's like, Jim, we're going to my bar and I'm playing my country music and you're going to listen to me play country music. And you're like, dude, I don't want to hear you make like strangle a cat, bro. Like,


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[Assistant] Yeah. And like, and like very, this would be like low key get ramped up. And I think he made me peace out and you'd be able to hang out and like, and do whatever you can. If you wanted to stay in party, you could.


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[Assistant] Or say, like, I think you're just locked into whatever Jermursy wants to do. Jerry Jones, am I really good too?


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[Assistant] Because Jim Ursay, Jim Ursay, Jim Ursay annoys me because he is constantly covering songs that I like and destroying them and it drives me crazy.


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[Assistant] For me, like, it's like Shane Steichen running this offense that worked with Jalen Hurts with Anthony Richardson, who's going to play week one because Jim Mercy is going to demand it no matter what is going on with that competition. But there's like such downside there that I'm.


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[Assistant] Not entirely, I'm not going to be invested in the Colts at all. I like the Texans as we pointed out in this podcast a bunch. I'm high on the Jaguars. So like I would rather have the Texans at 10 to 1 than the Colts at 7 to 1. And I just think that like Gus Bradley, that defense, I don't trust that.


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[Assistant] And I don't, like, even with striking there, like, I, we've seen Ursa Metal to the point where he fired Frank Wright.


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[Assistant] That's true. But I think I would much rather invest in the Texas at plus 850 than the Colts at plus 700. I think the Richardson's got his nose banged up and like, there's just bad vibes coming out of Indy right now. First year coach, rookie quarterback, and then this Taylor stuff, man, like I don't, uh, to me, it just doesn't, doesn't sit well.


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[Assistant] Was it Prisco or was it Adam Beasley? We've done like so many pods. It's like, it's like, I'm like brain melted altogether. Uh, one of them, it might've been Pete, I think, who said that, I think it was Pete because I was shocked he said it with Aaron knowing what we know about Aaron Rodgers and going to the Jets, right?


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[Assistant] He said that he thinks Vic Fangio is the single most important


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[Assistant] Sure. And like that really resonates with me. And I think it should resonate with everybody, especially when we talked to Beasley, the first author to pod and he's hyping up the Dolphins defense. They can win without jail Ramsey. Now that's a big blow. They traded for him. He was like him plus Xavier and Howard. There's a trickle down effect on their, um, in terms of their ability to shut down wide receivers.


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[Assistant] They've got some tough matchups, right? Like Stephon Diggs is going to be twice, right? Uhm, they, they, you know, they, it's not, it's not easy. You've used the Jets, Garrett Wilson twice. You know, they, they have, it's going to be difficult without Ramsey. Uh, they open against the Chargers. There you go. The Chargers have a lot of wide receivers.


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[Assistant] But for me, like, everything comes down to Tua, right? Even if the Jalen Ramsey injury is not good, duh. But for me, it's much more about Tua's health and being able to trust Tua than it is about the Jalen Ramsey stuff in particular. Like, I think the defense will be good no matter what.


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[Assistant] So like, I'm, I'm, but I'm on the bill, so I'm not really going to get on the Dolphins. I do think there's a chance the Dolphins win the division. I think there's a chance they finish above the Jets. But for me, it's like, I just have concerns about Tua and I know it's not defense related, but like, we just don't know. Like if Tua gets a concussion in week one,


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[Assistant] Can they really play him again this year? You know, like that's, that's- Or ever? Or ever, right. It's such a difficult situation that I'm a little hesitant for that reason.


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[Assistant] Princeton hates it, I can tell. No, I think, I mean look, the $40 are stacked. And like, the thing is, the Purdy situation is such that...


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[Assistant] Because he's back and he's going to be ready to go, I mean, we assume, right? I mean, we think, um, that it's such that like,


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[Assistant] When Purdy was not in the folder, like he was an unknown for me, it was a concern because it's like, all right, well, there's a real path where they just don't have like a great option at the quarterback position.


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[Assistant] Because you are, you're missing Trey Lance or if you're missing Purdy and he's not able to go and it's like Trey Lance is just a total wild card at this point still. And then Sam Darnold is either Sam Darnold. Like he's, we think it's a cool idea that he could be good, but it's still, you know, we still have a history of him not being, not being good. Right. And so like,


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[Assistant] Now with Purdy there, you feel like it raises the floor of the quarterback position for the Niners. You feel a lot safer. One, investing in their division to win the division, like 165, I think is like a really good deal or a really good bet.


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[Assistant] Um, and then they're over their wind tunnel. I mean, you saw it, you saw it creep up and like just in general, the, you know, the Niners like look like a team that we are, we knew they had a loaded roster. Um, the question was a quarterback position and if Purdy's back.


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[Assistant] And cleared, and he is that raises the floor at the position, I think, and allows you to where you're like, all right, even if pretty gets hurt, now you feel like Lance and Darnal playing really well might be like a bonus, right? Like a like a gravy on the biscuit, so to speak, like a slice of Swiss cheese on a chicken salad sandwich or something.


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[Assistant] I get behind on that. Kittle, Kittle, Kittle, Kittle have what, like, how many touchdowns do you have, um, down the stretch?


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[Assistant] Washington and I think week one is a big impact as well. I think Seattle this running back situation though is really big for that offense. Because you have, you know, Smith, you drafted JSN in the first round. You got DK. You got locket.


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[Assistant] You have all these weapons, but like Pete Carroll wants to be a running team. And so now like they lose Rashad Penny and free agency. Zach, Ken Walker is banged up.


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[Assistant] And was banged up last year and the Sharpener, the rookie is already hurt. So it's like, you just have to have questions about whether this.


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[Assistant] Whether this, this rushing attack can be sufficient for what the Seahawks want to be on offense. Cause you, you know, Gino tailed off last year at various points. And I think you could probably point to when the injury started piling up for the running backs, it sort of affected Gino Breach.


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[Assistant] I know, I know, right? The other thing about Washington, too, I think that's really interesting, like, you look at what we've seen from them,


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[Assistant] Like not just the football team, right? But like the social media team.


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[Assistant] Like everyone feels, the players, the way they're talking about this transaction, they're like, they're like, like it's very clear that Dan Snyder was not just disliked by fans, but like disliked inside the building by just about everybody. They were sick and tired of, you know, like anybody who, anybody who's ever worked for the team.


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[Assistant] You hear, like, you can tell that it's like, they're always embarrassed.


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[Assistant] Of course he was like Washington, but they're like, yeah, we know it's the, it's the former Arskins and Dan's, Dan's Dan. And now it's like Josh Harris comes in. He immediately, I don't know if you guys, I think we talked about this. I can't remember, but he called in to.


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[Assistant] Uh, one of six, seven, the fan with, uh, our grant, our friend of the pod, grant, grant Paulson and Danny, uh, roger and he calls in and he's like,


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[Assistant] You know, I mean, he's a billionaire, like, so who gives a crap? He dropped several thousand dollars buying these beers for these guys. And like these fans, which a dance nighter would never do. And then like, you see like the happy go lucky. The kids are carrying helmets. The vibes are immaculate with Washington right now. And the fans are going to show up for that week one game. It's a very winnable game.


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[Assistant] I don't know, you love Sam Howell, hate Sam Howell, whatever you think. It's a very winnable game. And I think that place is going to be really, really loud and really, really enthusiastic. And you're going to get a bunch of like anti-Dan Snyder chance or like, or like, you know, pro Josh Harris chance. And I think that we, that first half line for Washington against Arizona is very intriguing as a result.


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[Assistant] Dan Snyder, Dan Snyder had in his tenure as owner, as owner of the NFL, of the Washington football team, commanders, Arskins, whatever. He had more NFL investigations, four, than he had playoff wins, two.


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[Assistant] That is wild! Or is it playoff appearance? Yea, it's playoff wins, I think. That's wild, dude!


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[Assistant] I think for me, the biggest takeaway from the Sony Michelle stuff, like if the, if the Pat signed Zeke, like dude, Zeke is washed.


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[Assistant] So when the Patriots drafted Soty Michelle over Lamar Jackson, that was fun. And then won a Super Bowl with him.


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[Assistant] Who? Somebody else made this argument with me and it's absolutely asinine.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying. So Michelle, retiring there for me, like, the thing that stands out is


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[Assistant] Cause I've been bullish on the Rams and like, I'm like, I think the Rams and people keep being like, you're an idiot. You're an idiot. You're an idiot. You're crazy. The Rams are not going to be good. The Rams are not going to come back and be this like, like fine. 2022 again, or find 2021 again. Excuse me. Um,


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[Assistant] And I'm like, no, I think it's possible. And then all of a sudden I'm like, oh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and Cam Acres props scare me a little because Acres, as Breach points out, wanted to get traded last year.


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[Assistant] Hey everybody, welcome to the Pick 6 podcast. Katie Mox and Will Brinson here and welcome back to our All 32 series. The series where we catch you up with insiders from every NFL team to get you the information that you need to know leading up


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[Assistant] JLC, Jason LaConfora, uh, we lost Will, but what's up, JLC?


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[Assistant] Yes, I know. I mean, obviously we're not going to get into it, but you were telling me that, uh, Baltimore is a, is a front runner. So you hope to get Otani, which would be.


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[Assistant] Absolutely crazy. Looking at the Ravens this year at JLC.


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[Assistant] They're in a much better position health-wise heading into training camp than they were last season, so that's great. Lamar Jackson got paid. He's got a deeper group of receivers. How well do you think this offense can run in a Todd Munkin system? You gotta think there's more big plays happening than they'd had with Greg Roman.


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[Assistant] Yeah, JLC, you talk about how they, you know, they're paying wide receivers now. OBJ, you know, many people thought going into this year that he's probably under the most pressure with that one-year, $15 million guaranteed contract. Now with DHOP signing a two-year deal, $26 million with Tennessee, I've been reading that people are saying that OBJ is even


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[Assistant] Under more pressure than he was previously, what do you make of that? What is the ceiling for OBJ this year?


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[Assistant] Alright, we're gonna take a quick break when we come back. Let's talk defense for the Ravens. We're on with JLC. Pick six, uh, we'll see you in one sec.


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[Assistant] Alright, JLC, Mike McDonald's second year as defensive coordinator. You get to start the season with Ro Kwon Smith, right? Which they didn't have at the beginning of last season.


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[Assistant] David Ujabo, excited to get back in the mix after, you know, missing a lot of his rookie season with that Achilles injury. He's also excited to get back with McDonald.


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[Assistant] Thank you. I was, I was excited about that. I'm out of wiki. Uh, is this a top five defense JLC?


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[Assistant] What about MVP? A lot of people talking about how this is going to be an MVP caliber year for Lamar Jackson. His odds are interesting. Actually 15 to 1 for MVP. He just got paid. He's got receivers now. He's got a new offensive coordinator. Is that something you think worth a sprinkle? Does Lamar Jackson have a shot this year?


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, JLC, a little pessimistic, uh, about this season. A lot of wait and sees. Hard to argue with anything that you've said. Thank you so much for joining us today. That's going to wrap our Baltimore All 32. Make sure you stay tuned for more of this series, All 32, with Daily Drops in your podcast feed and on YouTube. JLC, as always, such a pleasure. Thank you for your time.


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[Assistant] We, uh, hopefully we won't swear in this podcast. We, uh, we got, we got a little loose in the language by accident. Jeff Kerr. We're talking about the Eagles with Jeff Kerr. If that hasn't aired, I don't know when they're airing. I'm going to shut up now and ask you instead about the Minnesota Vikings, uh, specifically Alexander Madison, uh, popular.


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[Assistant] Best ball handcuff or fantasy football handcuff the last few years in the event that Davico could get hurt. Now is their feature back.


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[Assistant] Um, yeah, I sort of wonder, like, do you, do you get the sense of the Vikings that they truly believe he can be a feature back or is this a


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause we're like, he's not Dalvin Cook. Like he's just not. Like, Dalvin Cook is a...


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[Assistant] This is a, a better talent. And, um, I just wondered, do you get the sense that they believe he can be a future back that this is about Alexander Madison moving on and going to Alexander Madison, the decision to get rid of Devon Cook, or is this more about just the basic economics and, um,


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[Assistant] So I mean, just to sort of follow, I mean, just to follow up on that, do you think it's a case of, all right, if like we.


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[Assistant] We go win a couple playoff games. We're going to run Kirk running back with Kirk or is it's like.


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[Assistant] Cause I mean, I think, you know, you hear it from Vikings fans too.


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[Assistant] You know, like, and like the, you know, you can say, all right, the Packers, maybe even did, did Aaron Nagler references in the Packers episode? He could have, I'm, I'm operating a little slow today. Um, but point being is the, like the Packers, all right, they moved on to Jordan love.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they made the move and it might stink. It might be terrible, but they at least know where they are. You know, they're, they've got Jordan love. They invested a first round pick and then they traded up to get him. They moved on from Marinators with the Vikings. It's like.


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[Assistant] And you've got a team in the Cardinals with two picks, two first round picks. You've got plenty of teams that'll be looking to get Caleb Williams or Drake May. Like they're, they're going to go one and two unless you just stink the joint up this year in college.


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[Assistant] And it's like if Minnesota has the 15 pick, it's gonna be really difficult to get up there. So, and you have a GM who doesn't like to do it. I guess I'm just wondering like what, I mean.


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[Assistant] I mean, you said it. Maybe, maybe the, maybe you already get the answer. Everything's on the table. It's just like, if you're, if you're the Vikings.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know you're not going to win the Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins and yet, you're not going to get the first pick either. It's a very tough situation.


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[Assistant] He's your number one 25 under 25 guys too. That's a good article on cbsports.com. People should check that out. Uhm, anyway, let's take a quick break and come back for a viking's talk, including what the defense might look like under a new coordinator. Skull!


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[Assistant] Uh, Ed Donatelle, they're what people beloved in Minnesota at Donatelle, not beloved in Minnesota. Um, run out of town, understandably given how well the defense, you know, how poorly the defense played. Um, Brian Flores, you know, I mean, developed a reputation as a really, really good defensive coach.


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[Assistant] Had the whole issue with suing the league and you're fired by Miami and all of that. And like, and you're just a very bizarre turn of events because Miami has to be involved in every scandal. The Dolphins do now in Minnesota, like.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's a home run for the Vikings, right? Is there a sense that this defense can take a dramatic step forward or is there just too much personnel loss there?


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[Assistant] Cuz that's called regression, kids. Regression of the mean and bitin' ass.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was going to ask that about the North and if we work up the division, the odds to win the division, that would work too. Just because like, it's wild to me. It's wild to me to see.


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[Assistant] These numbers and like I having said that, like I'm not telling anybody to bet the Vikings, but it's like, they just went 13 and four.


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[Assistant] And they brought back, you know, Dalvin's gone, Adam Dillon's gone, but like they draft Jordan Addison.


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[Assistant] They have Justin Jefferson, they have Kirk Cousins, they have a good coaching staff, we think. They improved their defensive coordinator position. The defensive wasn't very good last year at all, but Aaron Rodgers is gone.


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[Assistant] And the Detroit Lions, who, and to quote my buddy Adam Shine, have been rebuilding since 1935. Like, the Vikings number here is wild to me, Cody. Your thoughts?


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[Assistant] 40 to 1 to win the Superbowl by the way. That's a, that's, for a team that went 13 and 4 last year, that is a bit, in a week, NFC, that is a big, big number.


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[Assistant] The play, I understand the plus one of the playoffs like that. I think that is not a bad bet at all. You're talking about a, you know, a weak NFC where you good luck finding a lot of teams that are going to be good in this, in this conference. But like,


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[Assistant] Like I'm just like wary of the Vikings, mainly because of that division number and you're sort of, I mean, like, I think.


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[Assistant] I think it's, I think it's a great theme for the, I mean, we've mentioned it several times. Like it's, it's, I mean, they don't know where they are. Yeah. Like me after my birthday.


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[Assistant] You know, I think the plan is to start him week one. I think that's what the Colts want to happen. Obviously, Jim Mercer was on the Pat McAfee show the other day and it was kind of saying, you know, the best way you learn is by playing, uh, and that's kind of been...


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[Assistant] Anthony Richardson, yes, there's a lot of work that needs to be done, and maybe he's not ready to go in week one.


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[Assistant] But I do think that they are prepared for any kind of scenario with that. You know, they want him to go week one. They want to get him out there. And I think they're going to have a game plan ready if he shows improvement throughout camp. But so far as of right now, you know, in the couple practices and all in all season stuff we've had with him, it's kind of been what you saw at Florida, you know, the big arm.


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[Assistant] Really great high, high-end flashy plays, uh, but there have been some inconsistencies with this accuracy, uh, especially in the short to intermediate game. So who knows, you know, we gotta see how this, how this off-season goes, but I would say percentage-wise,


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[Assistant] I'd probably put it at 50% right now just because you got to see some growth first, but I do know that they really want to, you know, get him out there as early as possible and get him some playing field experience. So yeah, the best way he's going to learn is on the field. He didn't really get too much field work in college, so they're going to want to get him out there as soon as possible.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think the best thing about Shane Steichen and why this hire was so great for the eventual drafting of an Anthony Richardson is, uh, Shane Steichen is one of those chameleon type play callers and one of those chameleon type of coordinators where he will adjust his offense to whatever fits that quarterback.


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[Assistant] Uh, now he is a North Turner guy. He comes from a North Turner type tree, so he wants to attack the ball down the field.


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[Assistant] Uh, like we saw with Justin Herbert, obviously, uh, in that one season that he worked with Justin Herbert as a rookie. Uh, but before that, you know, he worked with Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers was the kind of quarterback who could attack down the field, but could also pepper the short game and get the ball out as quick as possible. Kind of get those Ken Whisenhunt run after the catch type things underneath.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then we saw what Jalen hurt you to be completely adapted into.


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[Assistant] catering that offense to a rushing quarterback. You know, 2021 was his first time working with a quarterback like Jalen Hertz, where the running aspect from that quarterback position is such a big thing.


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[Assistant] What he's going to do with Anthony Richardson, you can obviously look at a lot of that Jalen Hurts stuff and say like, okay, yeah, he can take some of the read option stuff, some of the quarterback power stuff from that. He can take some of the downfield shots and some of the empty set personnel to make things easier for Anthony Richardson.


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[Assistant] But also at the end of the day, it's going to be Shane Steichen sitting in the film room with Anthony Richardson saying, hey, what do you like in these situations? Hey, what do you want to do here? What do you want to do here? And again, it kind of goes to that who knows thing where the offense could look like, it could look like Philip Rivers, you know, and Anthony Richardson just never runs. I'd be shocked.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right. I'm not saying exactly how it's gonna go, I'm just saying whatever Richardson says he likes and what Steichen says, okay, I can do that for ya, that's gonna be, uh, kind of the path they go with this, with this position, so.


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[Assistant] Yes, again, I think the easy answer is, hey, look at what they did with Jalen Hurts and then say, okay, there we go, Jalen Hurts and just put Anthony Richardson, that style of offense, but it's going to be what's comfortable for Anthony Richardson. You know, a big thing I've looked at throughout this whole off season is, you know, empty personnel, what the Eagles were doing with empty personnel last year. They're running it more than any other team in the league.


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[Assistant] But that's because Jalen hurts like that. And while that could be a beneficial thing for an Anthony Richardson,


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[Assistant] If Richardson doesn't like empty personnel, they're not just going to force him into it. You know, they're going to, they're going to work with him. They're going to see how it goes. So, uh, yeah, it's going to be a very adaptable offense. It's going to be whatever they find works best for this young quarterback. And, uh, to take kind of a little bit of what I've learned over my years of covering the NFL.


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[Assistant] Once a good play caller figures out that quarterback, that's when things really take off. But until then, it can be a little ugly, it can be a little crazy. Uhm, I remember Frank, famously with Frank Wright with Nick Foles back in their Super Bowl season.


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[Assistant] Uh, he was like, you know, he couldn't figure him out for the longest time. And then right before they got to that NFC championship game, they figured out what Nick Foles could do. And it led to two of the best games that we've seen in playoff history. So, um, yeah, I think it's going to really come down to, uh, what Anthony Richardson likes to do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, flashback to last season, one of the biggest miscalculations going into last year, among many miscalculations with that team, uh, one of the biggest ones was the overreliance on Matt Pryor at left tackle and Danny Pinter at right guard going into the season.


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[Assistant] I mean, their backup plans for those guys were a rookie Bernard Ryman who wasn't ready and then a former seventh round pick and Will Fries. Those were their only backups to those two guys. So they were putting all their eggs in the Matt Pryor and Danny Pinter basket. And then through the first like four to five weeks, it was clear that those two could not start anymore.


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[Assistant] Danny Pinter was getting driven back into the backfield in every single play.


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[Assistant] Matt Pryor could not block me off the edge, which is saying something because I'm not very quick or actual. So I, you know, Matt Pryor was really struggling there at left tackle. So you, it just kind of led to this disaster of an, of a season for the offensive line. And you even saw the three star players, Quentin Nelson, Ryan Kelly, and Brayton Smith.


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[Assistant] Their plays started tapering off because of that, because they lost confidence, they lost, uh, health, they started getting injured a little bit, like it just...


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[Assistant] It all kind of just snowballed into this horrible, horrible season for the offensive line.


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[Assistant] And in a way they're kind of running back the same concerns, like don't get me wrong, when they made the change to Will Fries and Bernard Ryman late last season,


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[Assistant] By week 16, 17, and 18, those two were playing pretty well. Like they were playing fine, and the Colts offensive line looked the best they had the entire season.


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[Assistant] Uh, but again, when you look at this, this unit all comes down to those three star players playing up to their ability and those other two guys just being capable enough. You know, if Bernard Ryman and WolfRyze can be better than what Danny Pinter and Matt Pryor were early last year,


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[Assistant] Then you gotta hope that those star players can keep their continuity, keep their chemistry, keep their health, keep their confidence, uh, and lead to a more successful season. But, uh, I do think it's concerning, uh, what


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[Assistant] Could happen with this offensive line this year and again, hopefully having a court, a play caller like Shane Steichen and a quarterback like Anthony Richardson can kind of mitigate some of the fresh concerns because with Matt Ryan.


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[Assistant] Where Anthony Richardson, we saw in college, he could break out of any of these pass rushes. He could turn what looked like a 10 yard loss into a 70 yard touchdown run down the sideline. Uhm, that's a huge impact for an offensive line and it also kinda gains that confidence. You know, if every time you make a mistake, you're allowing a sack,


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[Assistant] Your confidence starts to drop, but if you make mistakes every now and then, and then the quarterback's still able to make a great play out of it or able to, you know, save the drive still, that adds to your confidence and makes you feel like, okay, cool, I can bounce back from this. So I do think Steichen and Richardson are a big part of this equation and helping those guys bounce back, but.


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[Assistant] The Colts are playing with fire a little bit and hoping Will Fries and Bernard Ryman could be better than what Matt Pryor and Danny Pinter were last year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, when I hear the second few Assads, I'm like, okay, maybe that's not the bet you make then. Bet on like a long shot, put like a dollar down on some long shot and hope it breaks out. But when I think about Jonathan Taylor, there's kind of two parts of this that kind of go into my head. One, running backs are terrifying.


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[Assistant] The second they start getting that first injury, because this is the first time Jonathan Taylor has ever missed a game in his entire football career. Not just in the NFL, not just in college and all that.


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[Assistant] All the way down to Pee Wee. Never missed a game before this past season.


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[Assistant] It kind of solid, all that stuff kind of stacking up and, and it's terrifying with running backs. Cause once that first injury comes, you don't know when the second one is. And then if there's a surgery, you don't know that surgery is going to be bad. Uh, so yeah, running backs are terrifying when it comes to that. But on the other end, if Anthony Richardson is the week one starter, there's going to be so much.


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[Assistant] It's going to be the most space he's ever had, probably in his entire football career as well. You know, going back to Wisconsin, they're running power eye, they're running, uh, just, you know, full back and just dive up the middle and hopefully you can break through. And then obviously with Philip Rivers and with Carson Wentz and with Matt Ryan, you don't have a quarterback that's going to really take the pressure off you.


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[Assistant] With Anthony Richardson, every handoff becomes a read option.


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[Assistant] Yep. Every time he's putting that ball forward and, and giving it to the running back, that, that backside defense Ben can't crash down because you have to watch Anthony Richardson. You have to watch or that backside linebacker can't crash down because you have to watch Anthony Richardson. So if you're talking just the numbers game and you're talking run fits, having a mobile quarterback.


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[Assistant] They're running backs, I think with Jalen Hurts as their starting quarterback have averaged almost half a yard more yards per carry than any other than the, like the league average, actually the league average of running back. Miles Sanders is pushing five yards of carry every single season there.


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[Assistant] And you could see a phenomenal season. You could see a return to 2021, maybe even better. I don't, I don't want to go that far, but 2021 was that phenomenal season and you could see something right around the same caliber because you have that quarterback that's going to be taking away pressure from you. Uh, we install in that 2021 season.


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[Assistant] That's a layered question there, but let's start with keeping Gus Bradley. I mean, him and Chainsight can do go back. They work together with the Chargers. They have had that relationship for a while, so when it came down to interviewing for


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[Assistant] Uh, potential defensive coordinators, you know, I'm sure he looked at some of his guys from the Eagles staff. I'm sure he looked at around the league a little bit, but Gus Bradley, I mean, he did some good things last year. I mean, for the first half of last season.


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[Assistant] The only reason the Colts even won three games is because of that Colts defense. You know, that Broncos game, that horrendous Broncos game we all had to watch on, on Thursday night football, I think it was, or Monday night football, uh, just horrendous game, but that defense is the reason they won that game.


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[Assistant] Uh, now the Broncos defense on the other end is the reason why it was such an ugly game too, but uhm, we even saw the Colts beat the Rainier, the, the eventual Super Bowl champs in the Kansas City Chiefs. They held them to 16 points in that game and Gus Bradley's defense played fairly well. Uh, now they did struggle down the stretch and, and I'm not going to say that they were.


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[Assistant] Great all-time defense last year, but I think you could see enough last season to where you're like, okay, cool. Gus Bradley deserved a chance to stay. Uh, you want to keep that continuity with the players that were playing. Cause you know, they just shifted from the Matt Eberfluss.


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[Assistant] The defensive style, but I think Gus Bradley deserved a chance to come back again to keep that continuity. Now when it comes to will this Colts defense be good?


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[Assistant] They lost a lot at the cornerback position. They lost Isaiah Rogers Sr., uh, for the whole season. He got suspended for the gambling thing and then obviously was released soon after. Stephon Gilmore got traded to the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Those were their two best corners last season, like, without a doubt. And replacing them are Juju Brentz, the rookie from Kansas State, and Darius Rush, the rookie from South Carolina, who was a fifth round pick. Uh, now I've heard really good things about those guys since they drafted him, but...


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[Assistant] At cornerback, it's really a tough position to start two rookies. You know, Kenny Moore is still going to be in the slot, but you're going to have two rookies out there on the edge in a, in a defense where again, this cover three defense, you have to be able to carry vertically. You have to be given a lot of responsibilities. It's going to be tough. Uh, and we also don't know the status of Keele Leonard, which we're going to talk about here in a second. I'm sure, but, um, yeah, I mean,


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[Assistant] It's a weird situation because last year going into the year, you know, he had that surgery to clean up nerve issue in his back, which was leading to issues in his legs and his calves. Uh, so he had that major, major surgery on nerve tissue in his back.


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[Assistant] Uh, going into last year, missed a good chunk of games, came back, and when he came back, he got a concussion, broke his nose.


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[Assistant] So then he missed a couple more games and then when he came back against Washington, he played like a quarter, got an interception and then left the game early because he was feeling more issues with the back and more with the legs. Uh, so we had to have another major surgery on the nerves in his back to kind of clean that all up. Uh, so the Colts have kind of been very,


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[Assistant] I don't know, maybe it's just my pessimistic side of being a person who's worked in football for half a decade at this point. Like, I don't like hearing that. It really scares me hearing that kind of stuff whenever.


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[Assistant] And I'm not saying that this is heading towards retirement, but I think it's heading to a point where me as a media member and people that I talk to as media members and people who have to count this, you know, talk about this football team.


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[Assistant] We just really can't expect anything from him at this point. Like it's, it's hard to really count on that. Uh, now they do have two good linebackers behind him, so it's not the world is over, but you can't replace the impact that his turnovers, uh, create. You know, he creates so many turnovers.


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[Assistant] Uh, every year that he's been a starter for the Colts, the Colts have been top 10 in turnovers forced in the entire league. Last year, they dropped to 19th in the NFL in turnovers forced. Now again, the defense switched around, but you can obviously see that tangible proof that Darius, uh, Shaquille Leonard, now you guys got me saying Darius Leonard. I was so good about it for years, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's hard, man. It's crazy. So lose a four-time All-Pro and not know his status going forward after you just gave him the biggest contract ever at the position, uh, and still having this, this question of if he's going to play again. Like, I'm not saying that his career is on the line or it could be over or anything like that, but I'm just saying, I don't know, man.


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[Assistant] I can't commit one way. I can't be confident that he's coming back. I can't be confident that he's not coming back because...


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[Assistant] Everything's kinda just been like, oh yeaah, he's on pace, we're expecting him to be back one day, basically. It's like, ugh, like, that's a big impact player right there.


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[Assistant] Well yea, certainly it would help the New England Patriots if they bring in a guy like Deandre Hopkins. I just find it fascinating from a big picture standpoint with the Patriots.


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[Assistant] They don't really do this kind of stuff, like they don't really do these recruiting visits and kind of, you know, trying to woo and push to sign these guys usually.


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[Assistant] Right, and going to the actual visit, it does seem from all accounts looking from the outside that things went well. He's posting on his Instagram story alongside Matthew Judon calling him La Familia. So there's a connection. Judon's been very public on social media trying to recruit DeAndre Hopkins.


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[Assistant] even going back to Bill B back to the Monday night f leading up with the patre Bill Belichick was talking and putting him in the c of the best players he's e against. And that is for


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[Assistant] Well, it's so funny because, you know, going through OTAs and mini camp over the past couple of days and weeks, you're excited to see, and you're talking about DeAndre Hopkins. You're wondering what this offense is going to look like with him potentially coming aboard. I still want to see what it looks like with Juju Smith-Schuster. We haven't seen him.


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[Assistant] We haven't seen those guys come in, excuse me, 2022. We haven't seen those guys because they've either been dealing with injuries, the Patriots are holding them back, so when they're giving us the glimpses of this offense, it's with Devonte Parker, it's with Kendrick Bourne, it's with guys that even beyond that,


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[Assistant] Is a part that Bill O'Brien is really going to try to highlight in this offense, the fact that Mack Jones, who isn't the most mobile quarterback in the world, but is pinpoint accuracy, he's smart, pre-snap. That's the type of stuff that we've seen so far that I think is going to be interesting with Bill O'Brien.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think so, and I think this offense offseason went a long way in doing that. I think that everybody is aware that the Matt Patricia, Joe Judge leading the offense last year was, you know, spoiler alert, not a great idea that blew up in their face.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I mean, we knew it right away in training camp last year that this is not how things typically are run. And then you go fast forward into OTAs and mini camp, you're like, yeah, this makes a lot more sense. And Mac Jones even noted, I think in a veiled kind of side jab to the way things went last year, calling this off season, this offense with Bill O'Brien normal. And you're like, okay, that's.


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[Assistant] That's pretty veiled, but kinda directed at the same time. So that, that part, but I do think that the fact that they were able to move off of that.


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[Assistant] We do know that they brought in Juju Smith Schuster, who on paper should be an elevation over Jacobi Myers. They bring in Mike Kosicki, who is definitely going to be an upgrade over John New Smith.


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[Assistant] No, I actually think it's low-key gonna be one of their strengths. I think that that is...


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[Assistant] One thing to kinda keep an eye on here, obviously you lose Damian Harris. That's a big note. Going to Buffalo, he's gonna be in your backyard in the division. That's going to sting a little bit. But I think Ramondre Stevenson is going to be in for a huge year. He already had a big year last year. He was a big piece of their offense. I think it's only gonna be bigger.


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[Assistant] But I also really am interested to see what happens with Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris. They're two draft picks from a year ago. They look good in minicamp and in OTAs. Again, there's not a lot of contact. It's tough to really tell because


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[Assistant] You know, you're running through an offensive line, you're running through a defense that really can't do too, too much. But just from how they look, they look bigger. They look like NFL caliber running backs. They don't look like guys during the first year in the league. And another one too,


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[Assistant] That are now at their disposal. I think that those four are going to be interesting. They got rid of James Robinson, but I think that that's again, partially because of injuries, but partially because they see Kevin Harrison, Pierre Strong. They could be factors here.


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[Assistant] Stevenson, right? You never know too. I mean, Pierre Strong, you know, as much as we've seen Remandre Stevenson be that receiving back as well as a pure runner, be a feature guy. We all know that the Patriots offense loves to have that kind of receiver, whether Shane Vareen, Falk, James White, even Rex Burkett for a little bit too.


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[Assistant] Pierre Strong kind of has the, the making of that type of player. So yeah, maybe in the best ball, not even injury withstanding. If you're talking deep, deep leagues, that could be someone you might want to look at. All right, let's take a break. And when we come back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be the same because like you were saying, when they were using Hernandez, they were using Hernandez like an H-back at times too. Like it was, it was much different in terms of the skill sets between Hunter Henry and Mike Kosicki. But I do think that you're going to see a sizable amount of 12 personnel with both of those guys on the field now.


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[Assistant] I don't think that that's really going to be in rushing situations. I don't know if Mike Isicki is the type of guy that's like Grodkowski who can catch the ball and also block with the best of them as well.


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[Assistant] physical standpoint was a what I imagine. He's just that can help them in the ru of be that third option for


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[Assistant] In Mike Kosicki, I think that it could be a fascinating red zone offense with both of those guys on the field at the same time. We've already seen the chemistry between Mack Jones and Hunter Henry in the red area. I think that Kosicki could certainly be that guy as well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that that is probably going to be the biggest strength of this team. As much as we're going to talk about Bill O'Brien, as much as we're going to talk about Mack Jones in year three and how much can he be the franchise guy and all that stuff.


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[Assistant] So far, day one, starting corner. It just feels like he's out there with the first team offense the entire time.


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[Assistant] But right now and how things, when they're running their first team offenses and things like that, more often than not, you're seeing Christian Gonzalez opposite of whether it's Jack Jones or Jalen Mills or Jonathan Jones. It's Christian Gonzalez that's out there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I think it's going to be, you know, I don't know, it's tough to say, you know, okay, he's going to be the day one guy, he's going to be the Steph Gilmore, he's going to be the next Ty Law. It's, it's tough to put that on him. And, you know, even in today's terms, like he can't be, you know, he's not going to be Sauce Gardener. I don't think you could put that, he might be, but you can't put that expectation on him.


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[Assistant] ease his way along and th the end of the year. That he's gonna have plenty Like I said, he's startin offense in O. T. A. Is in


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[Assistant] It's just a matter of how quickly can it click in terms of the speed of the game. And like I said too.


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[Assistant] You're gonna be tested early, whether it's AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, you look at some of these, these games that they have coming up the Patriots. I mean, you know, week one, like I said, AJ Brown or Devontae Smith, week two, Jalen Water or Tyree Kill, maybe even week three, Garrett Wilson, that is trial by fire.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the division is as tough as it's been in a long time. Robert Kraft said this offseason that it's the toughest division in the NFL.


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[Assistant] So, you know, they're looking at it in a lens that's much different than how they've looked at it in years past under Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft, obviously, because, you know, when they had Tom Brady, not only were they the top dogs in the NFL, but that entire division just wasn't able to really get its footing. Now it's a totally different ballgame.


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[Assistant] You have MVP caliber guys, you have former MVPs, you have first round picks, all of that in all different areas. And now you are in the spot where


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[Assistant] you're in the bottom. And me, I think it's going to defense and I keep going they have this shut down d of what I was talking abo it with you and Katie. I about it before when the Ramsey, I thought that was


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[Assistant] To what everybody else in the division was building. Even with the Patriots bringing Bill O'Brien, one of the best ways.


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[Assistant] to kind of help slow down those high flying offenses is to bring what could be a shut down corner in Jalen Ramsey.


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[Assistant] I think that that's kind o we should be looking at t I do want to mention, you about Christian Gonzales the third round pick out


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[Assistant] He's been really impressive, and I think that one of the things that's being talked about here locally is how this defense is going to look with Devin McCordy retired. And I, and you know, obviously a Super Bowl champion, captain, an all-time Patriot, he'll go into the Patriots Hall of Fame, but he is your classic center fielder. Now,


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[Assistant] And you had Jabiro Peppers talking about this at the end of Minicamp.


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[Assistant] They're able to quote unquote spin the dial a little bit more because you have so much position versatility with Mapu, with Peppers, with Jalen Mills that you can kind of sit in one look.