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[Assistant] Man, that means the Titans are having their way and that means there's probably some easy completions to be had and they'll win the football game. If it's 80 or 90...


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[Assistant] You know, somewhere in there, 70, anything less than that, then I'd go, uh-oh. You know, the 49ers had their way with those guys up front, and they win the game. But I'm, I'm definitely, can't wait for this one tonight.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't have a whole lot of different thoughts for you either. I mean, again, yeah, the deck is stacked against Cleveland certainly with the Baker Mayfield thing.


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[Assistant] Hey, Jadevion Clowney, he, I think he's gonna be back, right? He was on the COVID list. You know, Myles Garrett.


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[Assistant] Growing injury, I can't imagine him being quite as effective.


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[Assistant] You know, so I look at it and go, all right, so what are the things that Browns have? One of the things I thought was, hey, they got a good pass rush. They got some guys that can make a difference there. Well,


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[Assistant] This is one of the best pass protecting teams in football, and if there's not 100% Miles Garrett in a clowning that I doubt he'll be 100% because he hasn't been around for, you know, 10 days either. I go, okay, well damn, there was one of their advantages that's kind of taken away. The other thing that scares me is Cleveland is like a team that they don't...


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[Assistant] They don't take anything away. You know, they just, they're again, this is what we do. We do what we do. That's great. Well, I could tell you what the Packers are going to do. They're going to know what you're going to do and they're going to put Devonte Adams in the places.


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[Assistant] Where they know, because they know what you're gonna do, where the hell you won't be at, and they're gonna throw the ball to him. That's where, that's where it bothers me with Cleveland.


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[Assistant] So I look at that and go, Oh, okay. So there's no great advantage there running the ball on the offensive side of the ball. Hey, sure. They should be able to run the ball to a degree on the Packers. But again, some of those linemen and, and people are going to be coming back from COVID and the Packers.


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[Assistant] Are phenomenal in the secondary to where they're going to be able to match up and stop Cleveland's past game. So they'll be able to put that extra guy in the box to stop the run game. I got a score very similar to yours. You just flip the ones. I got 30 to 21. You got 31 20. I see the game plan out pretty much the same way you explained it. I am excited Christmas day. Those uniforms.


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[Assistant] On the frozen tundra, I mean, to me that's like, man, that's football. And when football was football, I make me think of Vince Lombardi and Jim Brown. I can't wait.


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[Assistant] No doubt, it came off a bit last week, certainly. And again, I look at the Colts defense and go, their front four, their linebackers, they got team speed.


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[Assistant] They do. I think they should be able to contain Kyler Murray and company to a degree. Will the Cardinals be able to run the ball consistently on that defense? I don't think so. They might be able to run it to a degree, but not consistently. You know, to, hey,


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[Assistant] You know, what reared its ugly head was a little bit of predictability within the Cardinals offense last week, too, against the Detroit Lions. Saw some repeat passing concepts, you know, too many times. They couldn't do anything really in the first three quarters other than run the ball and throw screen passes.


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[Assistant] Which, again, I think is going to be tough sledding against the Colts, the events that I think is damn good. I do.


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[Assistant] You know, let alone, I think they have a scheme that is gonna give the Cardinals some issues as far as they play a lot of zones. It's a lot of people out the line of scrimmage. They'll be able to take away the screens. They'll have eyes on Kyler Murray when he runs around.


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[Assistant] You know, the Cardinals love to run crossers over the middle. The Colts don't play a ton of man to man that way to where they're going to get crossed up and picked that way. So I look at that and then I just think about the Colts and we know the run game is dominant. And if there is a weakness to that Arizona defense, it's their corners too. They have a, they have a corner issue.


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[Assistant] To where, hey, the Colts can throw the ball good enough to take advantage of that. I'm going Colts, 27-24 in this one.


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[Assistant] Uh, it'd be a nail biter, I guess, that's what I was looking for there. You bite the nails with the skin of your teeth. Exactly. That's when you know it's gonna be close. And that's what I'm looking at here. I like that, but like, the...


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[Assistant] You know, you explained it the right way. The Falcons are not a dominant team. I mean come on, they've done a lot of things here this year with smoke and mirrors. It's impressive. But like the Lions have some things where I'd go, this is going to cause problems. The Lions offensive line is legit.


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[Assistant] They're gonna be able to push around this Falcons D line and run the football. They are.


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[Assistant] So I don't, so there's an aspect I look at and go, Hey, Advantage Lions, golf has been playing okay lately. Hasn't been doing dumb thing. You're open. He hits you. So that's great.


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[Assistant] You know, other side of the ball, I do think Atlanta is going to be able to move the ball on them, you know, to a degree. But I think this is going to be like, it'll be a tough struggle. You know, Atlanta is not a great running team. They run it just enough and do it just so it can open up other things. I'm picking them to win.


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[Assistant] You know, really because they're at home and they have Matt Ryan. That's it. I think this will be close though. I'm going 20 to 17 Atlanta. I think Detroit will be a pain in the butt for them on Sunday.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say two and one, you know, and because of them, the offensive side of the ball and lack of a passing game. You know, I don't think their running game is good enough.


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[Assistant] They're where I can sit here and go, Oh, well, you know, even though it's so good and it's the bucks, they'll still be able to have success and it'll open other things up. No, you know, again, I think the bucks, their defense.


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[Assistant] They're, they're going to realize the offense is a little handicapped and step up to the challenge. I don't think it can be, you know, again, I got questions about Carolina's offense. Of course I do.


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[Assistant] I mean yeaah, there's issues there. They're talking about they're probably going to play Sam Darnold this week too. So I don't know what to expect from that side of the football. I do think Carolina's defense will give Tampa Bay issues.


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[Assistant] Car- Carolina's defense is real. They are. It's still one of the better defenses in all of football.


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[Assistant] Can Tampa run the ball on them, you know, and do that? That's where you kind of can beat Carolinas running the football on them.


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[Assistant] Tampa's been a little reluctant to do that. There's no four net like you talked about. Should be the Ronald Jones show. He is certainly good and we saw that at the end of last year, but I think this is like an ugly win for the Bucs. I'm not gonna pick him to cover the spread. I'm gonna pick a 24 to 15.


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[Assistant] And Carolina just, you know, Tampa wins, but it's, it's ugly and they don't, they don't hit on all cylinders, I guess is what I'm trying to say.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it doesn't sound like it. Again, I don't know if it like sways my thought a whole lot. Of course, I think the Ravens are better with Lamar Jackson. But what we've seen from Tyler Hunley, you know, I don't think again, they don't have to change their game plan.


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[Assistant] He can still do the same things Lamar does, just at a lesser level. Yeaah. He doesn't have a, as powerful as an arm or can throw the ball from as many platforms as Lamar Jackson. Of course it's not as fast, but fast enough to give you issues. But I think this is a Bangles team and defense that matches up well with Baltimore. Again,


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[Assistant] You know, Baltimore's not the greatest running team. It's about the quarterback scrambling.


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[Assistant] You know, Cincinnati is a team that plays, you know, types of coverages and zones that their eyes are always looking at the quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, they showed the first time around, they had a plan to contain Lamar from getting out of the pocket and doing things, let alone because they play those zones, their eyes were always on them. And if he did break contain, they got on them pretty quickly there.


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[Assistant] So I look at that as kind of an advantage bangles. You want to take advantage of the bangles defense, you know, the teams that have beat them this year have had success for the most part, have been able to game plan big pass plays in the, in the passing game. I don't think the Ravens are that team. So I don't look at it that, like, being able to take advantage of it. And I just think the bangles at home,


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[Assistant] Joe Burrow, the weapons on offense, some of the injuries in the Ravens secondary. I thought even with the Ravens healthy, the Bengals match up good with that side of the ball too. Uh, but I just don't think the Ravens have enough right now.


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[Assistant] You know, especially if they can just run the ball a little and make Baltimore worry about that, they're not going to be able to match up with Higgins and Chase and Boyd on the outside. That'll be an issue. I'm going bangles here, uh, 30 to 20. Wow. You've got it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I'm going Chargers, of course I am. You know, the Texans, all the too deep coverage they play.


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[Assistant] I know the Chargers throwing the ball down the field more, have kind of hit their groove on the offensive side of the ball here, or found a second win.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm going 31-17. You know, again, the Texans can't run the ball well enough to take advantage of that, you know, bad part of the Chargers defense. And yeah, I think Davis Mills is going to have an issue throwing the ball against this Chargers defense and their past defense. 31-17.


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[Assistant] No, I don't. I'm gonna have them winning and covering too. Not by a lot. I'm not by a lot. I'm not. I can see this game being high scoring. I can see it being on the over. I mean, I'm gonna go 31-27. You know, again, this is where...


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[Assistant] Hey, the Rams defense, I'd like to see them try to defend. I'm excited to see what they can do to defend the run game of the Vikings. But I guess what I'm saying is I expect the Vikings to be able to run the ball on the Rams. And because they're kind of a


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[Assistant] You know, smaller, faster, over aggressive type defense, the Rams, I think that'll lend itself to the Kirk cousins, you know, making some big plays in their play action pass game. I do. But the other side of the ball is the Vikings defense. I mean, not breaking any news here. It's just, it's not good. It's not good enough not to match up with the Rams who


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[Assistant] Well, you know, there's two ways you could look at this to a degree. I mean, hey, like we've talked about, the Patriots didn't throw the ball the first time and still won. So the Bills haven't even seen the passing attack of what's going to come off.


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[Assistant] You know, as far as from the Patriots offense and how they're going to tie that together with a dominant run game.


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[Assistant] Now I do think the Bills kind of found something towards the end of that game the first time around as far as how to defend some of these Patriot runs that were gashing them to such a degree.


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[Assistant] You know, so that's interesting. You know, the other thing you could talk about is, hey, the wind and the elements.


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[Assistant] You know, that hurt Josh Allen and company from just being able to let it fly, especially they were a little concerned, I think a little overly concerned early on whether Allen could throw the ball through the elements. And like we talked about, we thought they were a little too late to adjust because he had no problem. He threw the ball right through it, but.


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[Assistant] One dimensional, Bill's offense once again, no Cole Beasley to worry about working underneath coverage. I mean, advantage Patriots defense. And then, listen, I still got a lot of respect for this, uh, Bill's, Bill's D.


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[Assistant] You know, the size issue worries me. And now, now you're gonna have to worry about the pass game. You know, you're not, it's not just gonna be the run. So I'm gonna go the Patriots in a close one here, 24-20.


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[Assistant] I'm going to take the Jets just because I think they still kind of care. Like they're trying to think about, hey, future, the culture, let's get used to winning a little bit so we can build on something in the off season. Jacksonville doesn't have that right now. You know, they don't know who their coach is going to be. There's nothing really to look forward to.


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[Assistant] You know, they're, they're, I just think they're kind of beaten down that way. Where the Jets, I know Ron, no Robert Sala, yes.


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[Assistant] You know, I think there is still like, hey, we're trying to, you know, install a winning culture and belief in our football team.


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[Assistant] They've been playing a little bit better ball as of late as compared to Jacksonville who are Trevor Lawrence and company. The offensive really struggled. Uh, yeah, I'm going to go the jets and a close ugly one and the number one verse number two picks of the draft showdown. I'm going to take Zach Wilson 20 to 17.


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[Assistant] I do think so. You know, the Giants, like we talked about, do have great size on their defensive line to where maybe they can slow down that running attack to a degree. But I don't know if anything can slow down this running attack right now.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm gonna pick Philadelphia to cover tonight, but not like where I think it's going to be this dominant cover. I'm going 27 17, uh, in this one to take Philadelphia. But you know, like we talked about a little on Tuesday, uh, or what was that Wednesday? I guess that was after the Tuesday night Philadelphia game was, Hey, it's, it's an elite.


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[Assistant] The best thing in the NFL, an elite unit, is that offensive line for Philly. Their ability to run it. And they've packaged a nice little passing game plan around Jalen Hurts that goes well with that.


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[Assistant] And he makes a handful of plays every time. They lost to the Giants the first time around. They're gonna look at that film and go, wait, we dominated the game and Jalen Hurts threw some bad interceptions that really hurt their team. I don't think that's gonna happen. Of course, it's still Mike Glenn in the quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, the Giants, the Eagles defense not great, and they can make a few plays to keep it interesting, but ultimately, Philly 27-7.


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[Assistant] Alright, I mean, I expect this to be one of the uglier games of the weekend. 100%.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't expect either offense to look very good or do much here. That's for sure. I mean, the Seahawks, again, we've talked about it. It doesn't really matter. I mean, I think there's moments where we can pull the defense off the field and the Seahawks wouldn't go down and get a first down or touchdown. I mean, they're just, it's horrible. And the Bears defense is pretty damn good. It's still a good unit. I mean, they can give you issues.


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[Assistant] So I, I think Russell Wilson and company are going to have problems moving the football. You know, and then same thing on the other side though.


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[Assistant] Again, I've liked the Bears offense a little bit more the last few weeks. And again, I'm liking what I'm seeing for Justin Fields. Seahawks defense has been a pain in the butt though. You know, and they don't let you in the end zone.


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[Assistant] I could see this game going either way. Really, I almost look at it and just go, who makes the first mistake? Whoever makes that mistake is going to lose. I don't know. So from that standpoint, I'm going to pick the Bears to make a mistake because that's what the Bears do. They usually make that mistake.


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[Assistant] Who had happened earlier in the week, right? So I think there's good thought of like, he could be back for this one. Tyree Kill and company happened a little later, right? So that could be a little scarier. I don't know if we're gonna see him or not.


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[Assistant] And that does affect the game, of course. I mean Tyree Kill, I don't care what you say. We know he's, he's one of the best weapons. He's one of those guys that's, you know, the, the great attention getter that opens up a lot of the things to this Chiefs offense. But, and I think the Chiefs have at least,


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[Assistant] Found some sort of rhythm on the offensive side of the ball. It's not the 2019 or 2020 Chiefs. No, it's not, but it's still good enough. Mahomes seems to be in somewhat of a groove.


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[Assistant] They've gotten rid of the turnover disease that we've talked about so much here, you know, as of late, or today at least.


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[Assistant] Uh, so from that, and then again, the Steelers defense, I don't think is very good. I don't. So I think they'll be able to move the ball, of course, well enough to put up points and, and win the football game. And really, I think the other side of the ball, Chris Jones should be back. He missed last week because of COVID.


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[Assistant] I know they're going to miss one of the linebackers, right? Nick Bolton, the other guy that's on the COVID list with Tyreek there.


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[Assistant] So they missed that, but that's not a game changer. Ligeria Sneed being back.


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[Assistant] I just have a hard time thinking the Pittsburgh offense is going to be able to do a whole lot against really what is one of the hottest defenses in football still. Uh, so I'm with you. I'm going Chiefs 27-17. I'm still going to have them cover whether Tyreek Hill plays or not. I'm still going to go with that.


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[Assistant] I'm going to ride with the Broncos in this one. I mean, I'm not going to bet on this, but I am going to go with them. I just think the Broncos are, the question is Drew Locke.


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[Assistant] And I'm going to play the angle that he's got to realize, like, if he turns the ball over and does stupid things in these games, he will, I mean, he might not be a backup. That's where he's got to worry about this. He's going to be brought in somewhere as a third string quarterback.


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[Assistant] So, I'm gonna play the angle that he understands this a little bit.


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[Assistant] You know, the Broncos have been running the ball well. I expect them to be able to run the ball against this Raiders football team. You know, let alone be able to throw it as long as he doesn't do stupid things with enough success. That's really the thing I look at more than anything. I mean, again, the Raiders underwhelming last week against a half team against the Browns, you know, offensively they're not the same team.


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[Assistant] They're not. They miss Gruden and his ability to create big plays and draw them up and be the mad scientist. They miss Henry Ruggs. Period. You know, they're not as hard to defend. Darren Waller. I'm not even sure what his status is for this week. But he's been out and if he's back, he's not gonna be like 100% ready to go.


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[Assistant] So from that, I'm going to ride with the Denver Broncos here. I think their defense will stymie the Raiders and I'm going to say their offense and Drew Locke do good just enough to win 20 to 17 on the road. Wow.


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[Assistant] Listen, I think it's a fair question. I understand what you're saying. You're right. I mean, hey, look at just, all you gotta do is look at last week.


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[Assistant] Very rude. I was sitting there through three quarters going, man, I just, I can't believe Derek Carr is even letting this game be like this. It's this close. How, you know, they blew opportunities, whether it was his fumble, his interception, you know, just him not making a player to, to kind of like, you know, get the momentum and the total


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[Assistant] Positivity around their team? I think it's a fair question. I totally hear what you're saying there, Mike.


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[Assistant] Dallas, of course I do. I'm still a little concerned with Dallas' offense. It's, it's underwhelming.


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[Assistant] You know, we know the concerns. Yeah, Dak hasn't been as great. Not as dominant in the run game.


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[Assistant] I think their passing game is too simple. You've heard me say that. I think teams have figured out kind of how to defend them in the pass game and take away some of that stuff there.


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[Assistant] You know, but Dallas's defenses is special. You know, they are. And then I almost want to go like, I can guarantee they're going to make a play.


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[Assistant] At least one play to give them a, you know, advantage as far as possession is concerned. Now, we do have Taylor Heinecke back.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, they know what to expect from Dallas to a degree. I don't think they're going to make the amount of mistakes they made the first time around. They'll learn from that.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm going to have Dallas winning, but I'm going to have the football team cover the spread just because I think they're going to self correct a little bit from the first matchup. I'm going to go Cowboys 28 20, but like a comfortable 28 20 wins.


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[Assistant] It changes what I think. It does. I mean, definitely. I thought this was gonna be an ugly, low-scoring game. I still think it'll be an ugly, low-scoring game. But if Taysom Hill was playing...


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[Assistant] I would have gave the advantage to Saints to win a defensive ugly football game at home, in a tough environment. Now it's not, and it's a rookie Ian Book?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go the other way. I'm gonna go to the, I'm gonna say the, the Dolphins now are the team that wins the ugly close football game. I don't expect a lot of offense. Again, the Dolphins offenses.


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[Assistant] They've been better, but nothing special. The Saints defense is special. They can stop the run with their, just their front four. They have shut down corners and they're creative in far as their defensive scheme. So I think they're going to give the Dolphins offense a lot of issues. Hey, the Saints offense we know is not terribly talented.


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[Assistant] Uh, Xavier Howard and Byron Jones are gonna be able to match up against whatever receiver they want on the Saints. Let alone, the rest of the defense is really damn good too, and we know the Saints offense isn't that special. But now, cause it's Ian Book,


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say the Saints, they're gonna have one dumb turnover with this crazy defense to Dolphins run. And I'm gonna say now, where I would have picked, you know, Saints to win 14-10, I'm gonna pick the Dolphins to win 13-10.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, you're right. That team with, uh, the ugly Christmas sweater in which you're representing, they now, that, that makes them feel better if they can upset the Rams somehow. Definitely. But yeah. Or if they don't, if they don't, they still could win.


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[Assistant] It's a game changer right there and it's more pressure on that Saints defense to come through and play like they did last week against the Bucs. We'll see if they can pull off that type of magic. I think they'll come close, but I expect the young rookie quarterback to make a mistake in this one.


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[Assistant] Listen, I don't feel great about some of these spreads this week, as far as, but the one I do feel good about...


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[Assistant] Is the Colts. They're one point underdogs and I think they're gonna win the football game. So I'm just gonna use that logic right there. I am. That really is. I think they're the hotter football team. I think they match up well with the Cardinals. And I gotta see the Cardinals get out of this funk to believe it. But yes, I think this is tough on them. I think the Colts win the game.


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[Assistant] Alright, alright, that's good. So we got something to root against each other for here in the, uh, the first, uh, on Christmas Day. That makes it even better.


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[Assistant] Either way, it's a great day. Alright, my next one, I'm going with an under. I'm going to the Dolphin Saints game.


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[Assistant] That's where I'm going. I know it's the lowest over under, I believe, from what Pete is saying here in points bet of the whole year at 38.5. I don't think it'll even get close to that. I don't. I'm picking 13 to 10.


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[Assistant] I'd have a hard time thinking it gets much past 30 even on its best night. So I'm gonna take it. Uh, 14 to 10 excuse me is what I picked for the Saints to cover the spread, but I'm going with the under there.


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[Assistant] Okay, alright, that's gonna be interesting. Going with the Falcons to cover. Alright, come on Lions, come on kneecap biters. Alright, my last one, I'm going with another under. I am.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna do it. Yeah, it's what I feel this week. And I'm going to the Chicago and Seattle game.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go to that one. The over-under is at 42.5. I got the Seahawks winning 17-14. I just don't see many points being scored in this one.


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[Assistant] Both offenses are challenged. The Seahawks defense, I don't even want to, uh, the Bears have been better, but hey, the Seahawks defense is still pretty damn good here as a late. So I'm going with the under.


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[Assistant] I was literally about to go there. So this is good. Yes. Okay. Cause I was going to go like


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[Assistant] Hmm. The overall picks from football, it wasn't you, was it? I mean, it couldn't have been you.


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[Assistant] All right. All right. So we got a good podcast today. Okay. All right. We're going to hit on a lot of breaking news. We know that the quarterback stuff, some AMAs from everybody, you know, uh, the homies, the listeners, everybody out there will hit on some free agency news.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't even think that's fair to Carson Wentz. I don't. I look at Carson Wentz's


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[Assistant] Yes, I know there's issues, you know, he obviously has issues relating to people, talking to people, being a leader. It's the second time we're hearing that, Colts, Eagles, now we're going to a third team. So there's that, you know, the play on the field is better than what people give him credit for. I will say that as well. And again, he's shown snippets of being like, like he's shown snippets of being a star at times.


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[Assistant] You can go back to his second year when they won the Super Bowl. He's going to be the MVP of the NFL. 2019, the playoff run with a bunch of no names on offense. He carried the squad.


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[Assistant] I mean, if you gave me a choice, Carson Wentz or Jimmy Garoppolo, right? I'm going Carson Wentz. I am. Why? Well, again, more talent, right?


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[Assistant] They're, they're on the cusp of being a real playoff contender and a pain in the butt in the NFC conversation. They were desperate for a quarterback and I think they realized, wait, Fitzpatrick up there in age just had a serious injury last year. There's really no future. We know what he is. Taylor Heinecke. Yeah, there was some fun plays we talked about during the year, but there was too many, like,


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[Assistant] Also, plays that you look at and go, wait, a consistent quarterback or a good quarterback in the NFL should make this play every time. And that wasn't always made with Tyler Heineken. I think that's why they were looking for the upgrade and yeaah, with uh, Wilson and Rodgers gone, this was the next best option.


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[Assistant] I would agree with that. There has to be that. That's what you always want from a franchise. That's what a good franchise quarterback does. It's just, oh wait, we're hurt this week. Oh, we're not playing our best. Oh wait, we got that guy at quarterback. He'll help us out and make it happen. You know, once there's, there's those questions, certainly. And yeah, I mean, it's...


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[Assistant] You know, I think he was even with the Colts. It says it all. I mean, Frank Reich was still, I think, willing to stick his neck out there and go with Carson Wentz.


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[Assistant] But the owner had seen enough, and I think Chris Ballard had seen enough too, let alone whether it was the not getting vaccinated, you know, the poor play to start the year, and then the end of the year,


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[Assistant] My bougie coffee, you know that, exactly right. And I was trying to like sit there and just read football news. I was about to dive into some draft stuff and watch some film. And all of a sudden I got texts like,


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I knew that. Usually when I say things like that, I have like some inklings from people I trust that are leading me in that direction. So it wasn't a shock.


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[Assistant] I think Denver legitimately, hey, the first domino was Rogers. They wanted Rogers. It didn't work. They had already reached out to Seattle. They had, they're not stupid. They weren't just going, Oh, we're only going to talk to Rogers and we're not going to talk to anybody else in football.


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[Assistant] They had plan B in place and yes, they had already gotten down the road a little bit with conversations with the Seahawks. Once they realized they don't get Rogers, boom, you get Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] I think so. I think you're going to continue to see this because just like the NBA, these guys get...


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[Assistant] No doubt. No doubt. I think between the NBA, the heat these quarterbacks take on, social media, and then you mentioned it, with Brady and Stafford, the last two years, people are like, woah. It seems to be the recipe. It's like, okay, why don't we just do that? And the teams own us it too. So they're going to be ultra aggressive, like the Denver is. They're looking at it going,


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[Assistant] Screw it. I mean, does anybody, you know, I'll go, I'll, I'll, I'll echo Ron Rivera last week of the combine. Does anybody even remember what the Rams traded for Matthew Stafford anymore? No, no one cares. They're just like, they got a super bowl. Who the f*** cares?


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[Assistant] It makes them an instant contender, uhm, and the reason I say I think it's a little bit of a blessing in disguise with Wilson over Rogers is you have a real chance to build something with Wilson. Rogers


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[Assistant] You could have been in, you win the Super Bowl this year and he might have gone, I'm outta here. And now you're going, oh shit, we gotta find another quarterback. Or two years from now he might just go, I've had enough.


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[Assistant] So, with Wilson, you have a chance really to kind of formulate a real culture with a team and a nucleus with some of the young receivers and guys they have, the new running back, Jovante Williams, and go, wait.


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[Assistant] We legitimately could have something here for the next six to ten years. And that's where I like the Russell Wilson thing, let alone he's gonna fit the system and the style of play and they got some weapons around him that are real.


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[Assistant] I know. Well, there's a lot of like ups and downs and all over the place and I hate you and I love you and I love you not. I mean, they were, they were everywhere. I think what they got where they got here.


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[Assistant] I get that. But is it a guarantee? You know there's more ifs there if he goes there than as compared to if I stay here at Green Bay. I know pretty much the team we're gonna have.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, they're gonna fr-, you know, they franchised Devonte Adams, he's not leaving, so that's all good, let alone, he doesn't have to have a huge life adjustment. You know, the one thing in Green Bay where, you know, I, I fault them to a degree a little bit, I like it and I fault them is, yeaah, they make their quarterbacks kings. So I say all the time, they went from Brett Favre, you're the king, do whatever you want,


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[Assistant] You know, oh, you might retire, you might play, it doesn't matter, you're the king, do whatever the hell you want. So now they gave Rogers the throne, and it's the same type of thing. And Rogers, as we know, I don't think it's the type of guy that's all for trying to go to a new place and try to like, get everybody on his page and the way he likes things. So I think there was a comfort zone, let alone,


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[Assistant] I do think football wise it probably made the most sense for him to go back, even though I was kind of rooting for something different. Of course we all kind of were.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was an expectation. I know, you know, I was one to continue to say like, you know, yes, there


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[Assistant] Any big game over the last three years, they lose to a team that's got more players than they do, period. I know it's the Packers, their record might be better, and they're better during their regular season.


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[Assistant] But the playoffs are a different animal, and you can't just always rely on, we're gonna execute, and we won't mess up, and that'll win us the game. That's really the way they play. And no, that's cool, but you know, when you get to teams like the Rams and the 49, they got guys that go like,


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[Assistant] Oh wait, oh, the hell with the 10 play drive, we're just gonna throw a slant to this guy and he's gonna run 60 and it'll be a 4 play drive. That's where the Packers miss, you know, that type of guy on offense and defense, so they'll be interesting, but they're still gonna be really good.


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[Assistant] No, not really. They're not. They have the same problems. It's the still salary cap issues there that they're trying to finagle that. You know, they're going to be lucky if they can just keep the team together for the most part, which I think they'll come close.


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[Assistant] I know a lot of people are going, well, now you can trade Jordan Love, right? Get assets for that and you can continue to build the team.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't, I wouldn't trade Jordan Love. I mean, if I'm on the Packers, maybe if I'm Jordan Love and I'm representing him, I'm going, yeah, maybe you need to be traded. But if I'm the Packers, I mean, it's the business of football.


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[Assistant] You're paying him nothing to be a backup quarterback. It's cheap as it gets. And you know, again, you have a good football team. So if Aaron Rodgers does get hurt next year.


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[Assistant] I, Denver, I mean Denver changes the outlook of their football team to where now we sit there and go like, Oh, they're, they're a playoff team. They're a playoff team. Oh, and their, their defense was already good. You know, they got to add a few pieces to their front seven, but receiver really talented Jerry, Judy, Cortland, Sutton.


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[Assistant] Who's just, you know, he'll be another year removed from the ACL injury. KJ Handler who got hurt last year. He's a difference maker. We talked about the running back, the old line. Yes, they're really good. And here's another one I got for you too. Just here for you. Cause this has become a thing over the last few days. Like with our guy, Dan Orlovsky in ESPN, right? And I got a lot of respect for Dan. Dan does good work.


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[Assistant] But you know, he, he made a lot of waves of talking about like he'd take Russell Wilson over Justin Herbert. Right? Yeah. Yeah. That's one I can't, I can't get behind right now.


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[Assistant] Totality, career-wise, yes, Wilson's special. But the last two years, what I've seen from Justin Herbert, man, if you gave me a pick right now, I'm gonna take Herbert. And it's weird to say, Russell Wilson's the third best quarterback in his own division. I mean, that's crazy to hear coming out of your mouth.


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[Assistant] The potential's through the roof, and he's just starting, right? Just starting. That's where he is, exactly what I mean. And he's had two offensive coordinators in two years and still played well. I think we've


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[Assistant] You know, we've gotten to a point where we can almost expect wow at a Justin Herbert almost every week. And that's special. And not to say Russell Wilson isn't special, but with the injury, the way they played last year, it wasn't his best. He is getting up there in age a little bit. Yeaah, I would take Herbert right now.


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[Assistant] Well, with the numbers and the win and loss. Oh, then it was the quarterback. They won and the numbers were good. The quarterback's gotta be good. He's gotta be at the first round pick. And then I just went, no, I mean, if you really evaluated him, man, there was so much, so much that was impressive.


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[Assistant] I mean, do you really think Justin Herbert wouldn't have been good if he was on Alabama? And they wouldn't have once still won the national championship? Or a Georgia or whatever? You know, and I think that's when it hits home and people go, oh, yeah, you're right. Okay.


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[Assistant] I mean of course both defensive tackles, but I mean Jordan Dave is the 341, him doing that, the linebackers. I mean yes, as a total team effort, domination in the draft. Back at the place of domination for your national championship game too. You know that time you were at the game and you didn't answer my text that weekend because you were too cool?


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[Assistant] You know, so we'll see where it goes, but I think the Jets are continuing to go in the upward trajectory. And I look at Zach Wilson for our man Kaminsky, who we both know and is a psycho jet fan.


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[Assistant] It's the little bit of what I would say the Josh Allen effect.


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[Assistant] There was just, there's a contingent of people that just are haters of Zach Wilson. He wasn't


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[Assistant] How dare we compare him to the great Trevor Lawrence from Clemson coming out.


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[Assistant] That's just, that's just crazy and disrespectful and they just don't want to see


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[Assistant] He was more raw than people wanted to recognize coming out of Clemson.


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[Assistant] But I think guys, like I'll say with Zach, I saw enough of where I went, wow, but there is things in his mechanical delivery of throwing the football.


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[Assistant] That need to be fixed. That's the one thing. He can do it. He's a natural. I know that.


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[Assistant] There's too many games throughout the year where I just go, damn, you're too good to miss that 10 yard out route three times in this game. And that's what he needs to fix. Okay. I was just curious. We had to talk about that in a while.


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[Assistant] There's a cultural benefit, certainly, you know, two or three more games, an organization like Pittsburgh, where they just go,


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[Assistant] I mean, he had the worst quarterback rating in the history of the Super Bowl to win a game. And they won it because of the running game and the defense. So, you know, I think they look at it that way. You know, I think they're in a weird spot.


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[Assistant] Because they have some talent on the team for real. The receivers are real. They got a good young tight end. The offensive line is a work in progress. We know they got Najee Harris at tail back.


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[Assistant] You know, Minka Fitzpatrick on the defensive side of the ball. They got some pieces there. Uhm, but I think with Mason Rudolph,


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[Assistant] You know, I just look at it and go, no, you're in danger of like, not being good. Period. It just, it, to me, we know what Mason Rudolph is. He's just a solid backup in the NFL. Not a starting quarterback. And yeah, guys like Trubisky and Mariota and Jimmy G, I certainly would take, you know, over, over Mason Rudolph.


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[Assistant] Steelers are also one of those teams, you know, that you look at, draft them in the 20s, right, they got to the playoffs where, they could, they're gonna be in the draft to quarterback situation there and then just go hell, we're gonna play them and we're gonna groom them and we'll run the ball and play defense and won't put a lot of pressure on them. I could certainly see them going that, going that route too.


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[Assistant] I, well, you're right. It's gonna be a pressure situation. There's no doubt. But Tomlin, the way he is, uh, they'll play the right way and protect the young quarterback for sure.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's gonna be a big question. I mean, of course, McDaniel's is special. Period. I mean, he is. He's one of the best offensive minds in football over the last 15 years.


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[Assistant] You know, but I do think the offense will evolve. You know, Mack Jones, another year.


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[Assistant] You know, they'll be able to throw more at him. They'll open up the offense more.


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[Assistant] But I think the biggest thing that I look at is like, listen, the system's not gonna change. It's a New England system. You know, again, that's where people don't realize. Like, Josh McDaniels is the man. He took the system to a whole new level.


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[Assistant] But really, the system developed as I've told people before. Josh McDaniels learned from Charlie Weiss.


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[Assistant] But then also where it went to another level is when Belichick started to get involved too. It started going.


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[Assistant] You know, the, the, the Aguilars and the Kendrick Borns of the world. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it hit a lull. The team hit a lull. They kinda got cold as well. The defense didn't play as well. They started to bleed a little bit. And I think what you saw too was, you know, a little bit like we just talked about a few minutes ago.


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[Assistant] Like, first off, Brady won't close the door. He just won't. So there's something there. You shouldn't. Yea, right? That's fine. Yea. I also, last week, I told a lot of...


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[Assistant] Oh yea, they're gonna have to pay Deebo, I think this year. And they got some other things on their roster that they gotta figure out too.


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[Assistant] The other thing I always tell people, cause I like to tell stories, you're probably the number one question I get. Other than about quarterbacks, everybody asks me about you.


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[Assistant] Men, men's reaction to Maria is amazing. One, there's the man that's like, whoa, you're really big and you're, I'm a little insecure about my manhood and you're bigger than me. How dare that? And they, they stand up tall. They're nice to meet you Maria. And they do that.


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[Assistant] He crapped on some of the things that I said last year. Certainly. He was better. He controlled the football better throwing it.


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[Assistant] And as far as, you know, again, I've just started on the quarterback stuff here.


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[Assistant] You don't need to do that. You don't, you're a team that's a little bit of a transition process.


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[Assistant] Let's not trade away, like, a bunch of assets, you know, to get Tyler Lockett or DK Metcalf. Let's not do that. You know, again, I mean, hey, Coolio Mac, they did that already.


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[Assistant] You know, one, they have good tight end and cold comment.


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[Assistant] Number one slash really awesome number two speedster.


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[Assistant] But I would say yea, you don't need to trade and send, you know, a first round pick and then some for DK, Metcalf, or Attila Lockett. There is going to be some value signings out there, I think, at the wide receiver position. You know, I look at guys like Christian Kirk, from Arizona, you know, where you might not have to pay, um,


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[Assistant] You know, you're not gonna have to pay him 18, 20 million dollars a year. You're gonna have to pay him probably double digit millions. But there's guys like that. DJ Shark Jr.


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[Assistant] That's gonna be available from Jacksonville, who's got some star potential. Juju Smith Schuster's gonna be out there.


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[Assistant] I do, I just, I look at Juju, I've never looked at Juju as a superstar. Juju to me is like a high number, like a number two receiver. He was great when, like his best year ever was when he was second fiddle to Antonio Brown. And then he had a great year. He's not the kind of guy that can like just run by you for 80-yard touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Got great size, tough as hell, can work the middle of the field, runs routes, blocks in the running game. Like he's your perfect guy to be your compliment to the guy.


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[Assistant] And that's, you know, again, Juju's probably going to be disappointed with what he finds money-wise out there in the market, but he'll find a niche and a right spot. They're a team that knows how to use them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, it does matter. It does matter to a degree. You know, it does. You know, again, there's a reason guys like Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre and Tom Brady were drafted up in New England and we never have to worry, you know, New England or Green Bay and never have to worry about


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[Assistant] Wait, it's snowing. It's raining. Wait, they're still throwing lasers through it. We don't even worry about the weather. We don't even care. Oh, it's snowing in New England. Uh, and nobody expect, we still expect Brady to run for throw for three 50 and like, so big hands help with that. Of course it's a smaller object in your hand when you have a gigantic hand, right? So that just basic logic helps you out. I will say with


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[Assistant] The new current crop of quarterbacks and I should have brought a football in here because I've explained this a little bit.


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[Assistant] There's more variations in the way people grab the football now than ever before.


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[Assistant] You know, like the way Lamar Jackson grips the football, the way Kyler Murray grips the football.


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[Assistant] You know, even the way Patrick Mahomes grips the football. When I was growing up, nobody gripped the football like that. Where they moved their hand up to the smaller part of the ball.


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[Assistant] Right? And to where, yea, they might not have as many fingers on the laces and the big fat part of the ball, but because their hands are a little bit smaller, now they're grabbing the smaller part of the ball to where they can control it and they don't have issues. Mahomes plays in Kansas City, he doesn't have gigantic hands, he's throwing that damn thing through any weather possible. So that's not an issue.


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[Assistant] These are significantly small hands. Alright. This is the smallest in football. One of the smallest we've ever seen from like a draftable quarterback. The difference is he wears a glove.


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[Assistant] And he's been wearing a glove for a long time. So the glove does help you grip the football.


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[Assistant] I like, you know, again, early stages. Pickett knows how to play quarterback.


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[Assistant] He's a good athlete, he has a good arm, there's no wow factor. I don't go, oh wow, he's got a laser, watch out for this, or he's such a great athlete, and the NFL is even going to be better. I don't see that, but I see a guy that can do everything and there's no glaring weakness.


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[Assistant] I'm not a fan of the glove. I'm not. Anybody that throws a glove can't naturally just throw it. I just can't. I mean, again, that's where I get into it.


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[Assistant] And the size of the hands I guess is a little less of a concern than normal because he has been wearing this glove and gripping the football won't be an issue because of it.


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[Assistant] You have big hands. I would have expected you to. I would be a pretty good QB. You definitely would be.


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[Assistant] I mean like, almost a soup every day. I love it.


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[Assistant] It's a little bit, you know, not, doesn't melt you into the couch. Jumbles your brain up a little bit. Okay. But that's, that's usually where I go. I'll get you some.


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[Assistant] Shit, I don't even, I just watched 30 plays, I don't even know what the f*** happened. Wait, let me go back and watch them again. So I am not that guy, for sure. Uhm, uh, but, to your question,


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[Assistant] I am, when I do smoke, I tell people all the time, the first 45 minutes I'm as smart as I can possibly be. Right. And I do some of the best self evaluating.


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[Assistant] Alright, so you're not gonna smoke weed, but you better say a f***ing four letter word before you get out of here, okay? Shit.


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[Assistant] You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. I really did. I appreciate it. At least you said it.


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[Assistant] Yes. Uh, what else? You wanna ask me anything else? No, I'm over you. You're done?


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[Assistant] I just, I can't, I don't know, I might start singing the song, thinking about the song, and all of a sudden go, wait, I just missed ten plays. I've just, I've never been that type of guy, so.


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[Assistant] But going forward, all seriousness, uh, next week we got, uh, or it's two weeks, two Mondays from now I'm gonna start my draft rankings, quarterbacks, we're gonna get into all that, and then really every week we'll break down position by position. Next week, of course, is free agency. So we're gonna hit on all of that, and there's a lot of things to talk about within free agency, what some of these teams should do,


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[Assistant] There's some interesting position groups that we didn't even get to here today that of course, you know, are going to be able to help some teams out. So we'll see where it goes.


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[Assistant] But get specific about podcasts, I mean about free agency stuff.


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[Assistant] We'll do it at the hotel too. Like the hotel got like, now you gotta do it a different way because of course you don't have a washer and dryer in your room. So what do you do? Well you, like, you put on the water in the shower


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[Assistant] And make it steamy in there and then hang up the shirt in there. There's an old trick I learned in my college days where, yes, you know, so not that I do it a lot, but every now and then,


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[Assistant] It's like the Giants taking a Cowboys theme song. We don't do that, okay? Can't do it. Can't do it. But we do have news. Alright, first off. Huge news. Like free agency, we know. Alright. I think we'd be remiss to talk about like first off, just off the bat, that Tom Brady's coming back to play football. Let's start there.


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[Assistant] I know, we haven't hit that because that happened this weekend, right? And I've been saying for a long, long time here and still, like listen, this has been all over the place and it's been all over the place because of Brady a little bit. Yes, I never thought he was going to retire a month before the season was ending. Never.


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[Assistant] Right? Then all of a sudden the retirement talk comes out and you go, oh wow, I mean I guess it's real, I guess he's really done.


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[Assistant] But then within like five or six days, of course, Brady talks himself into a corner, his own corner or a corner and you're like, okay, well maybe he's not done. And I said last week with Florio, I had talked to somebody that kind of had knowledge of the situation and they were a little bit.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they know Brady's camp a little, and he's like, Brady's told everybody he's playing to 45.


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[Assistant] So he kinda called me to set me straight cause he had heard me on TV. He's like, Brady's not the type of guy that tells people those things and doesn't come back and play. Let alone...


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[Assistant] You know, of course, I had already had the inkling, and you missed this, where, you know, Brady and Sean Payton tried to finagle away to go down and be a package deal. Right, that was the last time I was here. So that was a real thing. And I really think that, really, my heart of hearts, and I think we'll get the truth of this eventually, is


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[Assistant] I really think this was all a play for Tom Brady to try to play somewhere else. And then he realized that was not going to happen, so then he went back to Tampa Bay. If you're truly going to retire, what was the point of announcing it so quickly after the season was over? Why not take some time?


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[Assistant] You don't know how you feel. You told me you don't know how you're gonna feel in five weeks, in a month, in a six month. So why wouldn't you?


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[Assistant] Right? So to me, that's again, I'm glad he's back. It's awesome. Why wouldn't he come back? The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are still one of the best teams in the NFC and the NFC is sucky ducky. Every good quarterback in football is in the AFC. I mean, Brady looking at it going, damn.


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[Assistant] And I know the, the Dolphins thing's real. I know, as I've been saying. And you know, the Dolphins, nobody knew about this. And then Florio called down to the Dolphins. They said, well, actually we have reached out to Sean Payton. So that was real. You know, you could say what you want.


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[Assistant] The NFL squashed Peyton and Brady from going down there. And then, yes, after that,


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[Assistant] You know, so that, that leads me to believe that it was never a real retirement. It was a retirement to finagle his way to a different situation. I don't know what the other situation would have been other than Miami. I do think it's very odd, as I've said many times on PFT, that he was in San Francisco the week Shanahan was not at the combine and decided to stay home. That to me was...


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[Assistant] That, to me, I would not be shocked if there was a conversation there, or a little dabbling of the situations there to see what happened. And then, then he realized, okay, I think the, I don't know, you know, I think the Bucs realized, like, we're not gonna just let you play for any team, and just like, oh, you gave us a mid-round pick, thanks.


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[Assistant] I do. I do. And I think it turned against him a little bit and things didn't quite work out the way he wanted to or whatever. Flores' lawsuit certainly put a big damper on some of the things I think that wanted to go down in Miami and yes, I think that's ultimately, I think he was looking for other


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[Assistant] Yes, I mean, I know that there's, I think, some frustration there. I don't think it's enough to where it was like, oh no, I can't ever go back to work with the guy ever again. I think there was frustration, yes.


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[Assistant] And I've been led to believe that it's not to the point to where it's like, Oh no, I can't ever play for the guy before or ever again. I don't think it's that. I don't. And again, you know, Hey, I know they've lost a few players here, but again, the bucks.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they lost their guard in Kappa. It's still a really good offensive line. They lost Ali Marpit, you know, but they're, so they're going to, some, some moves they're going to have to make there, but they're still got two really good tackles, an elite center.


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[Assistant] You know, running backs, okay, it's not special, but it's good. We know the receivers are special. I expect Gronk to be back. The demons of line is still one of the best in football. They got good linebackers. They got two good, you know, good safety. Carl, they got good corners. I mean, the Bucks are still a major player in this whole thing. Alright, so last thing.


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[Assistant] That has not been backed by facts. I wouldn't buy that. I mean...


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[Assistant] I guess the thing is, I don't think there's anything out there that you look at to go, oh well that makes sense and that's a better option than where he is. 49ers? Yea, the 49ers, right. Which I would be thinking that something changed there, and the big thing there too is,


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[Assistant] I mean, again, like, even if let's just play the game and go, the Bucs were willing to be nice, the Glazier family, thank you, Tom, for coming down here for two years ago. We'll, we will trade you. As cool as they are as people, I still don't think they're going to go, okay, we'll trade you to the one team that might be able to beat us in the NFC championship game this year. And like, we'll have it thrown in our face.


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[Assistant] Like one of the only teams that physically we feel like is kinda comparable to us will give you our quarterback so you can come in and beat our ass in the playoffs. That to me, as nice as they are, they're not gonna be that nice. And that's where I think plans fell through. Now I don't know some of those things you know, but


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[Assistant] I do know Dolphins things, and I do know a few other things, but I just found it interesting. Hey, nonetheless, Brady's back, and he's certainly on one of the best teams in the


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[Assistant] Yeah, we, we, we, we hit all, we hit all of that. I, I will say with, uh, you know, again, with Russell Wilson and then seems like the current state of Roger's contract here. I, so I think Denver got a blessing in disguise. The fact that Roger said no to them and went back to Green Bay and they got to go to plan B to Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] They got something to build here. Aaron Rodgers, it looks like the contract's going to be set up in Green Bay to where he can basically get out of it after one year, two year, three year, whatever he wants.


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[Assistant] And if you're Denver and you're trying to build something, you don't want that as your quarterback right now. I got Russell Wilson, now they don't have to worry about that stuff. They'll give him a new contract sometime here in the next year and a half, and they'll have their quarterback for the next five, six, seven years.


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[Assistant] He's big time change. Brandon Staley, when I talked to him at the combine, we had a long talk about, you know, again,


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[Assistant] Think about this. The Chargers were playing Gus Bradley Seattle skiing defense. 4-3.


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[Assistant] Smaller, let's be fast, let's shoot gaps. Brandon Staley's come from the Vic Fangio, you know, Wade Phillips of, wait, it's 3-4, I like big people up front.


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[Assistant] He asks his guys to, it's, it's complicated. And then, and of course at times he'll put a guy like J.C. Jackson on the island and then do other crazy stuff on the other side of the field like he did with Jalen Ramsey with the Rams two years ago. He's really cool with that. J.C. Jackson for my money is, is a top five corner. And hey, you see the list here for like top intercept, uh, uh, interception.


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[Assistant] To where you go, no, no, it's fair. It's not like balls have been tipped and just damn he's got the luckiest shamrock in the world up his ass to make that happen. Uh, no doubt. I think he is without question, I don't want to pull up this little list I had here, he is without question one of the five corners to me. Alright? And you know, that list, people want to know.


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[Assistant] Alright, so, Xavier Howard, JC Jackson, certainly there. Jair Alexander would be in that list for me. Marlon Humphrey, Jalen Ramsey.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Marshawn Lattimore, right? Those are the guys I think right off the top of my head that I put in that rare category of I go, you can put them on an island against the other team's best receiver and go, we know the other receivers and I have a few catches.


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[Assistant] We're, we're gonna be okay. And it allows us to do other things on the other side of the ball. That, that to me, that group right there that I mentioned, I think kind of stands on its own right now in football.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly right. They don't come out around the free market. I honestly thought he would get more average, you know, per year as far as salary. I thought he would dance around the $20 million. He's gonna get $20 million for the first two years. But J.C. Jackson is special like this, just like Xavier Howard is a little bit, and even J.R. Alexander.


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[Assistant] Not only elite man-to-man cover corners, they're elite zone cover corners too. They really understand how to play zones and, you know, where their weaknesses are, how to read plays, how to read the quarterback while you're reading the play at the same time. That's where they're special.


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[Assistant] And that to me is where J.C. Jackson and Xavier Howard separate themselves is because they, they can kind of, they got more instincts maybe than some of the other guys in that, in that zone department that makes them very different.


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[Assistant] Justin Johnson, defensive tackle, right, uh, from the, the, it was in the Giants last year, from Penn State, another, that's again a 3-4, no, true nose tackle type, he's in a two gap people, you can't move him, we got a whole mosh pit in the middle of our run game because of it.


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[Assistant] You know, I think two things. One, Brandon Staley is a really good coach and smart and knows how to coach the defensive side of the ball. I don't think it was an easy, like, uh,


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[Assistant] Wait, there's only three defenses in this defense, and we know all the rules within it, to now it's, whoa, it's Brandon Staley, and he's got a ton of different defenses, and it's a little more complicated, and we do a lot more different things on the defense side of the ball. I think there's a learning curve, lack of the personnel, you're matching that up. Again,


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[Assistant] I'm not going to sit here and just make a proclamation to go, oh, they're going to be a top five defense in football next year. Do we have the ranks? Have we shown that yet, Kristen? What they did last year?


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[Assistant] And then find ways to finagle fronts to where he can make it disruptive and yet they don't compromise themselves on the back end with being too aggressive with a blitz or crazy coverages that way. All right. So yes, they're going to be, I would be shocked if they don't make a huge change on, on that side of the ball, as far as you know, what they are.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I am. I'm going to say like almost everything. Their 23rd rank defense overall in total yards last year. I'm going to say they will be in the top 15 next year. Between learning the system, getting a few players like I said that fit the system.


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[Assistant] I think you'll see a big jump. Some young guys they had, Asante, Samuel, he'll be a year better. Durham, when James got banged up a little bit last year, he'll be a year better.


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[Assistant] Middle linebacker, the kid they got two years in the draft from Oklahoma, that was a big adjustment for him. He was in the defense where he was just like, the guy just said I have to worry about this guy. And now Brandon Staley's teaching him like, you gotta read this and read this and read this and then you go to that guy. And so, yea, Murray, exactly, Kenneth Murray, thank you very much. So yea, they, they, uh, I, I expect a huge jump, I guess is what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] You know, so maybe they got to figure out how they get a tight end of the mix because they're going to lose Jared Cook. All right. Uh, but the receivers certainly set running backs. They're not bad. They, I bet you they look for somebody else to get in the mix there, but they can now focus just defense really for the most part and really make their


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[Assistant] I guess, and they'll make moves next week. You know, the Raiders are gonna follow the New England mantra where they're, you know, it's free agency doesn't start till the second week. That's how they kind of look at it for the most part. Other than last year, that was the only year ever we saw New England be aggressive in the first two days of free agency. And they had some major things they had to address. And that's what I think we saw today or yesterday.


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[Assistant] As you know, you saw the teams that had some desperate needs to flip over the perception of the team, the roster, whatever. They made those moves. The Chargers were one of those. Cause like you're saying, they're, they're on the cusp. They got a lot you like. They were almost in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And, you know, they're in a tough division. But, you know, again, if you made me rank that division right now, I'd put the Chargers too. I'd make the Chiefs one. I'd give the Chargers a little lead over the Broncos in what they are as a football team right now.


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[Assistant] It would make me think, it would make me think about it. I probably wouldn't, I don't know, just AFC West concern, yeaah, I might actually, actually know that I think about it. AFC West only, yes I would. AFC in general, I'm not gonna do that, but yes AFC West,


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[Assistant] I am, but that gap is closin'. It's closin'. I mean, it's one where you definitely go, oh, I'm not as comfortable as I was a year or two, three years ago, where you just went, it's a slam dunk. We're talking one or two wins.


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[Assistant] Two free breads up to two thousand dollars. Hey guys, shut your cell phone up in the background, okay? We're doing a show here. Put them on vibrate. Okay, geez. Alright, and get two risk free bets up to two thousand. I said that already, right? Yea, you did. So if you bet one hundred and lose, you will get free bets worth one hundred. Wow. What? Okay. So if you get- Up to two thousand.


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[Assistant] Wow, wait, so if you bet 100 and lose, you would get free bets worth 100, up to $2,000. That's amazing. Once the game starts, Joe, don't just bet. Live your bet life with points bet. Damn, I need work on my reads. That felt like a long time.


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[Assistant] We always have this team, right? And free agency every year.


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[Assistant] And in some years where you just go, it doesn't even make sense. They're just throwing money at a big star player to give themselves good pub and the perception will be good. Like, look, this team's being aggressive. What I like for this is like, I think it's system fit. It's players that make sense for their schemes on both sides of the ball.


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[Assistant] You know, they make sense for Doug Peterson and I'll explain in a second. And they make sense for, uh, new defensive coordinator there in Jacksonville from the linebackers coach in Tampa. Pete, what's his name? Mike Caldwell, is it Caldwell Smith? Damn it.


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[Assistant] Caldwell, right, yes, right, Caldwell. It got guys that fit that, let alone...


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[Assistant] You know, again, they're a team that's trying to wipe the dirty taste of the Urban Meyer era out of their mouth and kind of change the culture there. And then added on top of that, wait, we have the number one pick in the draft from last year and we did nothing to help them last year, so let's help them this year. So, you know.


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[Assistant] Free agent tag. Cam Robinson. I like it. I'm all for it. Brandon Scherf. Best free agent guard in the market. No doubt about it. Get that done. You know, and then, you know, the two receivers they add. Christian Kirk


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[Assistant] He's got elite explosiveness. He's a special player that way. He can get on the outside, beat you deep. He's a slot receiver, can run good routes. Zay Jones, great possession, intermediate receiver. Makes sense there. Evan Ingram, this is the offensive side of the ball we're hitting on right now, is a star.


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[Assistant] Evan Ingram has a, in my opinion, has star ability.


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[Assistant] Now he dropped some passes in some big situations up here. He was drafted in the first round a little bit out of nowhere to a degree to where, you know, the expectations just didn't meet up. It's still been good in New York.


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[Assistant] And I know, I know he was really valued by a lot of teams. So he signs a one year deal. That makes a lot of sense. So I look at that.


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[Assistant] You know, just what they did on the offensive side of the ball and go, wow, you pair that with Marvin Jones and Loviska Shanaugh.


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[Assistant] And the fact that uhm, they're gonna have Travis ATN back next year with James Robinson. You start to go, okay, this is Trevor Lawrence, it fits Doug Peterson's offense, I like it. And that to me is what I loved about it, let alone we haven't talked about the defensive guys yet either.


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[Assistant] You know, in Arizona, with some other big names around them that take away from them.


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[Assistant] And, but too, like when I would go, well, you know, Arizona made the playoffs. You know who the leading receiver was last year? Oh, it was Christian Kirk. I think people would go, oh really? I didn't even realize that. You know, so.


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[Assistant] There's, he's shown that he can be the guy, let alone I think there's more potential there to be untapped. And hey, hey, let's not forget, like he was stuck behind DeAndre Hopkins too as being the main guy a little bit. So they were going to feed a lot of the offense and the plays and the ball through him that hurt Christian Kirkstad. So I think you're getting a guy where he's being paid for what he's done.


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[Assistant] There's still a little bit untapped potential, and I think he's the guy that...


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[Assistant] A lot of people in football are looking for Ahmed. He's a guy that can do the things we talked about, a receiver, but can run reverses. You can run him a toss sweep. He's one of those guys a little bit where it's like a weapon. And I think that, you know, there's more of a calling for those guys than we've seen in years past at that position.


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[Assistant] Wait, let me guess though, can I guess? It's not a signing.


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[Assistant] It's a... Releasing? Releasing. You're talking about the Miles Jack being released from the Jacksonville Jaguars? No. No?


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[Assistant] You know, Union and Pete's going Union President. Union President is probably not helping him. Alright, I'm just gonna tell you. That's what happens a lot of the times. Because the team goes, well, we can't get away with anything. This guy, he tells himself, oh, they're breaking a rule and we can't do anything. Teams don't like that.


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[Assistant] Teams don't like representatives that are too representative-y.


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[Assistant] He's doing his job well. Yes he is. Yes. So, but I think between that, probably, you know, price tag.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's still gonna be, I mean, he's not maybe top five center in football anymore, but he's not far out of it. You know, there's some guys that have passed him up maybe ever since he left Green Bay and got to Cleveland, but still really good. But they're probably looking at it and they gotta re-sign some guys. You know, they're looking to probably sign another pass rusher.


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[Assistant] I was, you know, when they first signed Cam Robinson and went, oh, it still might not matter. They might still just go, we're going to make our offensive line to power. But what I forgot within that is they drafted Walker Little from Stanford to tackle last year in the second round too, who's really a first round talent.


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[Assistant] And started at left tackle at the end of the year. So they're going to play those two at tackle, I would imagine. And now that is going to put, yes, you're going to have your Sherford guard and they'll figure out the other two and go from there. But I do think this shifts it to.


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[Assistant] Pass rusher. And again, I don't have the draft down yet or trade down type of material now. I don't think it's a slam dunk and I certainly don't think tackle is going off the board at 1 right now.


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[Assistant] I certainly could. And again, we just talked about Mike Caldwell coming from Tampa Bay, right? What does Tampa Bay got? Two good pass rushers. They're going to believe it. They're going to change their philosophy a little bit. And I want to give like, you got Fatou Kassi from the Jets, defensive tackle.


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[Assistant] Yep. Phenomenal football player. One of the more disruptive defensive tackles in football. He's coming down there. And then, Foyasata Luocan.


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[Assistant] He really is. He's a thumper who's got more athleticism than your normal thumper.


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[Assistant] I mean, those are two, again, that's why I like what they did. It was more about, let's not just make news and spend money and show our fan base we're doing it. To me, it was sensible. It really did. And it fits kind of, I think, the way they want to coach their team here going forward. And that's what I liked about it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like that. First off, yes, I'm a fan of Miles Jack. I mean, I really am. I mean, Miles Jack is incredibly athletic.


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[Assistant] Still can really fly. Uh, yes, I think he'd be an improvement to the middle of your deal. He's gonna be an improvement to anybody's defense. I do. I guess there's a part of me that wonders, is there an injury there that I'm missing that's maybe concerning? I don't know. It'll be good for him to get out, get a new fresh start somewhere. But yes, he's got some...


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[Assistant] Not too much. The perfect amount of wear and tear. He's got some tread left is what we're trying to say. And I like your DJ Shark signing. I do. I like that too. Because again, I'm about, I like versatility in the receiver room.


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[Assistant] A little bit. You got, like I'm on Raw St. Brown who can do a little bit of everything, right? Can play outside, can play the slot.


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[Assistant] Kaleef Raymond, who's more of your slot jitterbug type of guy, right?


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[Assistant] You know? So there's, you know, there's, say you got one guy who can do everything, another guy that's kind of a slot guy, and now, okay, who's our big receiver? Who's our guy that's gonna scare people on the outside that can, like, if it's one-on-one?


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[Assistant] We can throw a back shoulder or a jump ball or he can just run by people. Oh, how about the guy that's 6'3 and runs 4'3? To me, like he was a guy from the start of free agency that I had a star next to like Evan Ingram to go.


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[Assistant] He's going to get signed for less money than he's worth. And that's what he is. He's just like Evan Ingram. He goes, well, one year, 10 million, uh, hopefully going to tear it up and then sign a big contract the next year. But I like that. And I think he's going to add Josh Reynolds to that mix too, who they re-signed.


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[Assistant] Josh Reynolds is like, kind of a mix of all of them. Can do it all. Like, he can play slot, he's got a little size, he's a pretty good router, so he can play all the positions we just talked about. Yeaah, I thought that was a good move by them.


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[Assistant] You know, it is. First off, Deshaun's gonna have to sign off on one of these teams. So it's just not like, just cause you're involved, this means he's like, oh yea yea yea, oh, if they make the right trade, he's going there. No, he's got no trade clause.


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[Assistant] Interesting thought. I don't think so though. Seems weird. I wouldn't think they're doing this just to drive this up. I think they would be doing this to go, wait, you know, we have Matt Ryan, he's good.


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[Assistant] But he's getting towards the end here. He, you know, we might have to re-up and pay him again here in the next year or two or something of that nature. You know, he's already got an extremely high number as far as salary cap is concerned.


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[Assistant] I could see them making this move, looking to their future, going, wait, let's see what's available here. Definitely. The big thing would be, would he like them? You know, we talk about the Saints and the Panthers.


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[Assistant] You know, there's questions about all those teams. The Saints, you know, it's new coaching staff. You know, offensive line a little older. Is Michael Thomas going to be there? If they don't have Michael Thomas, it's not that great of a receiving corps. The Panthers I look at and go, there's some talent there. I like their talent.


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[Assistant] It's a huge year. Will Matt Ruhl even be there after this year? Then you don't know what the hell happens. You know, the Falcons we know are kind of in the process of still flipping their team over.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I'm, I'm gonna be interested to see where this goes. To me, here's the two teams that I think make a lot of sense, and I don't know, I mean the Browns, if I'm Deshaun Watson, it makes a lot, and then the Eagles. The Eagles are another team that I have been told are laying in the weeds a little bit with this Watson, and they're just kind of quietly observing, but if things check out,


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[Assistant] But if you remember from like a little bit last year,


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[Assistant] Even when we made fun of some of his awkward press conferences.


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[Assistant] I had too many people that told me like, man, people really like the way he does things down there. So don't just judge the press conference. The players like him. People within the organization were impressed with how things were run, the daily approach, all of that. So, and yes, first time meeting him.


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[Assistant] I mean, he, he checked the box on what I had heard about him, like just a normal guy. It's not coach speak. It's thoughtful answers. He tries to expand on them a little bit. Doesn't just give you the one line to say I answered it, even though it was the shittiest, boring answer ever. I appreciate that.


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[Assistant] I don't doubt that. I've always, and I've said this from the second, I've always liked...


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[Assistant] The offenses he's been involved in, always, along with the guy he has as the offensive coordinator in Shane Steichen.


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[Assistant] To me it's just, those, I like their offense. I see what they do.


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[Assistant] In the pass game. There's creative things on a weekly basis. It's, you know, again, Frank Reich was the same way. That's, I like Frank Reich's offense in the drop back pass game and play action stuff too. It's aggressive. You can't ever go, oh wait, this is what it is. It changes on a weekly basis. And it has, you know, a lot of game plan specific creativity that I always like.


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[Assistant] I would, to me, it's a safer pick. The Browns, there's only one thing we gotta figure out with the Browns. I mean, really, it's dwindled down. They got Amari Cooper, where you just go, yeaah, they gotta figure out, you know, maybe one more weapon at receiver.


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[Assistant] I mean, we've discussed this a lot. The Browns were disappointing as a team last year, and we know that. But damn. I mean, there's so much to like. There really is. It's one of the best offensive lines of football.


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[Assistant] Even without JC Treader, you got awesome running backs, you got two good tight ends. You know, yea, you got Amari Cooper with Donovan Peoples-Jones and Schwartz. It's not the worst. I would bet they add to the wide receiver room. Defense? Damn, secondary is good.


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[Assistant] Linebackers are a little work in progress, but you got JOK there, right? Who's the freakin' man?


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[Assistant] You know, they'll figure out what else they want to do. They just traded Mac Wilson. D-Line's good.


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[Assistant] Now Chase Vinovich is coming to the party, right? Which I think officially cancels out Jadevian Clowney from coming back to Cleveland. I would imagine. Interesting. You know, so, uh, yeaah. I mean, that, I think, I'm with our guy there and going. If you're Deshawn. If I'm Deshawn, Cleveland has a pure advantage, no doubt.


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[Assistant] It's a tough, it's a tough thing. You know, it's, it's, it's, first off, you don't turn down the chance to maybe get Deshaun Watson unless you got a Deshaun Watson type player in your room, or in your team. And Baker's not that. I like Baker, you know that, but it's, it's Deshaun Watson when he's hitting on all cylinders. Top five. Unquestionably top five quarterback in football. No doubt about it.


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[Assistant] So yeah, that's, that's tough to turn down as a football team, let alone.


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[Assistant] You know, we don't know where contract negotiations stand with Baker Mayfield. Maybe they don't like the talks of that conversation there.


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[Assistant] You know, and maybe they're, maybe they're, you know, not only legitimately interested, maybe they look at it as like maybe this will be a little bit of like your, like your kind of hoping, a motivation, you know, get him to really be the guy we want and lock him in here to really be the quarterback of the future. Maybe he needs a little fire under his ass with


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[Assistant] No, interesting question. I think Carolina to me is like a little under the radar interesting. And I know, I know we had the Matt rule question.


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[Assistant] You know, we've talked a lot of it during this, I mean, the two receivers they have are special, let alone, you know, the kid they drafted at LSU in the second round last year. So they got, you look at that and go, okay, I like that. You know, yes, McCaffrey, a running back, I mean, would I trade him? Yes, if I got the right


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[Assistant] You know, value for him that made sense. You know, again, you've invested a lot of money over the last two years and you got what, 10 games? You know, that's hard to swallow unless you get the right return for it. But if it has to be part of the deal for trading to Sean Watson, I think you do that. Carolina is


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[Assistant] To me, gonna be the most aggressive player for this. They've, they've never hit, like this, they've never tried to hide this. They want it so bad. Tepper wants it bad.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's, they made aggressive moves to Bridgewater and Sam Darnold, even though they weren't like totally sold, those were the guy, they wanted to make a quarterback work so badly, they were willing to give more for those guys than they even wanted.


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[Assistant] So, I would think, and to me, it is one that I would, like, I would think about if I'm them. Man, if I'm Deshaun Watson. It certainly would. You know, I'm not saying they're Cleveland, but


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[Assistant] Their defense has a lot of young talent on it. You know, the offensive line needs a piece or two. There's no doubt. Got Austin Corbett. Got Austin Corbett. Yes, exactly right. So that helps add a little bit of guard.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, like we said, the weapons are kind of good there too. The tight ends good. Tommy Tremble, Ian Thomas. So, I don't know, it's not the worst place. I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up in Carolina. The question is, does he love DJ Moore as much as Chris Sims loves DJ Moore? Probably not. But maybe if he turns on film and really studies it, he'll go, oh shit. Because DJ Moore...


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[Assistant] Out of the teams he's interested is the best receiver out of all the teams he's interested. He's better than anybody in Cleveland. He's better than anybody.


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[Assistant] Uh, I'm the Saints. Yup, I'd take him over Michael Thomas, just so everybody's clear on that.


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[Assistant] He's better than anybody on the Eagles, and I know Devon Smith is special and all that, but yeaah. DJ Moore to me with a good quarterback is...


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[Assistant] Jamar Chase. If he was on the bangles, we'd go, whoa, this guy does Jamar Chase type things. He catches slants and runs her 70.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, what's his name for the Dallas Cowboys? Michael Parsons told me it was the most impressive player he played all year. It was DJ Moore. I said, who's the one guy? He goes, you know who's somebody? He goes, DJ Moore. Uh, yeah. I go, yeah, I remember you guys chasing him around in the middle of the field like your chicken with a head cut off. So yeah.


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[Assistant] Love him. I mean, first off, Laken Tomlinson comes from the same system they're gonna run, right? Comes from 49ers. They know what he is. Michael Fleur knows exactly what he is. Salah knows what he is.


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[Assistant] You know, he's, he's got tremendous strength and power. And for a guy as big and thick as he is, he's a very good athlete to run the Shanahan zone schemes and all of that.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, it's a great pair. You pair him with Elijah Vera Tucker.


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[Assistant] They put Mackay Beckton at right tackle, hopefully he can stay healthy. George Phan, who played well at left tackle last year. And you go, crap, they got something there. They got a little line.


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[Assistant] Now what's the next thing that offense needs? Right? They need their George Kittle. And not to say, you know, uh, CJ Uzuma. I've been butchering his name all day. I think there are seven.


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[Assistant] I think I've said seven today. I've said seven. I said five on the show today.


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[Assistant] properly. Uzama. Uzama. They need their, their George Kittle though, was my point. You know, that's part of like, it's why the Dolphins franchise, Gosecki in Miami. It's, it's part of their checks and balances to keep people off their run game. Oh wait, we're running the zone to the right, zone to the right, zone to the right.


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[Assistant] You're overloading your defense for our zone to the right. Oh, here comes the tight end of the back door. Here comes the play action, tight end through the back door, whatever it may be. It's a huge part of their offensive system. So that's where I like it. I really do. And then Braxton Barrios, you know, he made Jameson Crowder expendable cause you know, he's going to be the slot jitterbug. So you pair Corey Davis, Barrios.