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[Assistant] It could have been worse. It could have been worse. Now, again, you know, uhm, I know you haven't seen this movie, Last Samurai, but they talk about Last Samurai with Tom Cruise, he's trying to become a samurai sword fighter, and they go too many mind, right? You're thinking about too much, just focus on your moves and the fight and the guy in front of you.


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[Assistant] And I think, you know, he's all over the place. Oh, offense, new players. Oh, let me protect my front knee. I don't want anybody to fall in.


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[Assistant] He's one of the biggest question marks in football right now. He really is. Uhm, for all the things you just said, you know, we talked about it early on, this guy hasn't played a lot of football and, you know, there he's had a long time off.


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[Assistant] I would say the pressure on him is probably as great on him as anybody in football at the quarterback position.


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[Assistant] You know, to what you're saying, he had that six games, right? So that gave them confidence, but they were also back to do a corner. They had no quarterback. So they kinda had to like, make a move and pay for it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's where things really became a little bit tough for the 49ers. I think Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch thought they'd be able to scrounge some games together with


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[Assistant] Brian Hoyer and CJ Beathard and win a few games and then maybe wait for Kirk Cousins and free agent. But it started out 0-10 and then it was like, oh shit, we gotta get somebody in here that can like write the ship to a degree. And Bill Belichick calls and they make the trade and it happens and all of a sudden things happen. And yes, is he overpriced and overpaid for what he's done to this point?


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[Assistant] Absolutely. I mean, there's no denying that at this point. We're hoping now that he will justify it. And the last thing before we move on.


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[Assistant] This is, this goes into too why you want to know why he's struggling. Anybody go back, watch, watch the TV copy, watch the film. Some of his mechanics are horrible. He, his feet.


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[Assistant] 11 o'clock, 10 o'clock over there, but he steps till like 7 o'clock.


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[Assistant] I mean dammit, the ball's not gonna go where you want it to go if your leg's going one way and you're trying to put your upper body another way. Is that new? Are these, are these? These are little things I saw last year. He doesn't do like hitch steps, right? Like, and like, I wanna almost stand up and show everybody. We always like it when you stand up. Okay, then dammit, I'll do.


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[Assistant] Yep, but okay, you got it, you got the gym there. Hey, that's what everybody wants anyway, right? Nobody wants to see me. But okay, so I'm gonna stand right here, but like, okay, you see Brady, right? Brady catches the ball, Rodgers catches the ball. When they see a guy open, they catch the ball, okay, and it's...


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[Assistant] Boom and they throw, like there's that little hitch step, that gather step to get your power and get it. Garoppolo, everything is, catch it, and it's, and it's.


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[Assistant] Or sometimes it's, he literally will step backwards. And I just go, man, so if you're going to throw balls into a tight window, like that extra three or four miles per hour.


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[Assistant] That might be the difference between it being complete or that guy getting a pick six that hit him right in the chest. And that's where I would be concerned. He compromises his power and his ability to really get the ball out of his hand with authority because his feet are, yeaah, they're too flat, they're just, there's not enough movement


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[Assistant] You know, these abrupt fake claps, right? So. I feel like quarterbacks have done that. Well, yeah, not the abrupt fake claps. NFL quarterbacks is usually a leg lift, leg lift, or you put the finger down, like in between your legs, so then the center who's looking between his legs can see it, right? You might go, hey, second finger, first finger.


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[Assistant] This is the same type of thing. It's too much of an aggressive movement. For guys who are in a three point stance and trying to go on like the first little movement and then they can see a guy in their peripheral vision kind of doing something like that.


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[Assistant] He's trying to fake the clap. Right. So just like, well, it's like a dummy snap count. Let me see where the defense is moving because they think I'm going to clap. Oh, okay. I didn't clap. I got him. Oh, that guy's coming. Let's get the protection over there. That's basically what he was going to try to do. They're going to have to rework those mechanics. That's not going to fly in the NFL. Every defense is going to complain about that to the referees before the game starts.


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[Assistant] I will chalk it up with this. Kyler Murray, a little off, yes, definitely.


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[Assistant] Like, I liked his reads. I wasn't like, oh, that was stupid. Or, whoa, that ball was like a helicopter out of his hand. That looked like shit. No, he was still throwing piss missiles all over the field, just a little off. And really, I think it was the first time, you know, he was uncomfortable. The Raiders did some things.


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[Assistant] And there was a few moments where he got the ball, and I don't know if he thought, he wasn't 100% sure he was protected. So he gets the ball, he looks at the receiver, and then he like, looked back to go, oh damn, is that guy blocked or not? And then he tried to look back down the field. Little things like that can throw your rhythm off.


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[Assistant] Ultimately you're going to be good for Kylo Murray and Cliff Kingsbury. It's going to make them grow up. And I can picture John Gruden, like this is what John Gruden uses to say in scenarios like this with young quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] The toughest thing about the preseason is some teams are game planning.


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[Assistant] Some teams are going, nope, we're doing as basic as can be. And like I said, some teams are playing starters, other teams are not.


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[Assistant] And that's where you gotta be careful to evaluate and always just look at stats. I just look at the player. Does he belong? Ooh, his movement's still good.


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[Assistant] His reads were still good. The ball came out of his hands. I'm not worried about, like, Kyler Murray if he'll hit the corner route next time when Larry Fitzgerald's there. Like, he can do it. Yeaah, he missed the other day, but he'll, he'll do it.


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[Assistant] And he'll do it to where it's gonna be like 9 out of 10 times. It's just, it's all new and the game's moving fast at times.


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[Assistant] Accuracy is phenomenal, the quality of the football, his timing and understanding of the offense in general, uh, is just really good. Let alone, he does have a presence, he looks big out there, he plays bigger than his actual sizes, and we haven't even seen him run and do stuff like that, which is pretty damn impressive too.


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[Assistant] It's some of the down the field throws that I think I've been the most impressed with. You know, whether it's the touchdown in the first game in the back corner of the end zone or the fade down the left sideline in this game. Hit another deep cross. All those things. It looks good. He looks the part. Now I'll say this. I think the Giants are game planning a little bit more.


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[Assistant] Then other teams. I do. I think Pat Schermer's going, it's year two and I gotta get my stamp on the offense and these guys gotta start getting reps with the things I wanna do. The Giants O-line looks good. They play, you know, he got to get in there with the starting O-line. So that was a great advantage this time around.


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[Assistant] I only have one concern about Daniel Jones, okay, and it's a concern that I had during the draft.


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[Assistant] And I just saw a glimmer of it for the first time in preseason game number two. And again, he was 11 for 14. It's really awesome. But we're a podcast that likes to break football down. And we gotta not only self scout thyself, I need to self scout everybody else.


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[Assistant] The one thing that just jumped to me a little, and it's just something to watch for, cause I saw the Duke a lot, and this is what really scared me, is, again, I'm gonna stand up, okay? You ready for this? Part 2.


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[Assistant] But Daniel Jones, okay, to this point has been very good with the shoulder, right? And if he wants to throw it as he throws it, he kind of gets a little turn to create opposites and do that. It looks great. But this is what I saw a few times in the game the other night.


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[Assistant] And I saw this at Duke. He can get the front shoulder open and then it never gets back to where it gets. And there was a few throws, two specifically in the game where


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[Assistant] He wanted to throw his heater, the 100 mile per hour fastball. Had like a crosser going across, right to left. And he wants to let it go and put it in a tight window.


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[Assistant] But he, he gets all like, it's like only the arm goes. He doesn't get any of the body involved and the ball dies and falls at the feet. And that's, you know, I'm just saying I hope that doesn't continue to happen.


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[Assistant] Because what he's done in all his other throws has been phenomenal. These are just two or three throws, but I'm just saying those are things that I just saw. I'm getting very technical here with quarterback. I'm not panicked or anything like that. Daniel Jones has looked phenomenal so far.


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[Assistant] I'm not shocked by that. I mean, they mentioned the Patrick Mahomes template before the draft about we would like to follow that. And in this case, Eli's Alex Smith and, you know, Daniel Jones is Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] One, my dad's been at practice twice, and he's told me Eli's look good.


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[Assistant] But Eli looks good. Eli, I could tell he's worked with somebody to throw the football for the first time ever. His motion is tighter. He doesn't let his arm get as long behind him and break his angle at his arm.


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[Assistant] So, there's two things. The ball popping out of Eli's hands, even the touchdown throw in the game the other night. I challenge anybody to go on TV, look at like the second cut where they show like a little end zone cut. The ball is really spinning. That is not usually an Eli Manning football.


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[Assistant] Like it is spinning hard, a lot of revolutions per yard or whatever you want to say there. Other thing is, he looks in shape, like he's lifted weights for the first time in a long time.


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[Assistant] And, like, thank God. He just, he does, he looks good, he looks a hair quicker, a little more poppin' his step in the drop, so, you know, I, again, I'm...


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[Assistant] I know I've been a, I've been rough on Eli the last two years, but it's deserved. It hasn't been good. If he can look like this and put positive things out there, trust me, I'll be there to give him lots of compliments and say, go Eli. I'm not, I'm not afraid to do that.


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[Assistant] You know, hey, I had Jared Stidham above Daniel Jones, you know, and I will sit there and go, tell me what really the big difference is between the two. I mean, to this point right now, that's not trying to be a hater on Daniel Jones or anything like that. I just like Stidham. I just like Stidham, he's right.


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[Assistant] Stidham's arm is, is big time. And he does it with ease. I mean, he can really, you know, 20 yard out routes and it just looks like he's throwing the ball five yards, but you know, you see the ball and you go, whoa, damn, I mean, okay, that's on a line.


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[Assistant] You know, not as like a good, like, he's not gonna run as fast as some of the others. He's no Kyler Murray. Daniel Jones can run faster than him too. But Stinnum is like Brady.


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[Assistant] Really smooth in the pocket, just little subtle moves. And if he needs to break out of the pocket, he has enough speed to get on the run and make a throw on the run. So, Sinem has been one of the surprises of preseason to me.


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[Assistant] I mean, not to say I'm surprised, it's just been better than I would have even imagined. Sure. Uh, the quality of throws, did he have a few mistakes? He had one down in the red zone, he should have thrown an interception, threw the ball behind the guy.


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[Assistant] Uh, but, but again, those things are to be expected to a degree.


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[Assistant] Uh, right now he is looking like he's on the arc to maybe be that replacement.


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[Assistant] It looks like he's like, if you told me, if I didn't know who it was, and you said, hey look at number four, I'd go, what is he like, year three, year four? You know, he's poised like an NFL, but he's


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[Assistant] Unfazed by the rush. It's an aggressive mindset. If he sees a little opening or inkling he can get the ball in down the field, he's gonna pull the trigger and throw it. And I like that about him so far.


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[Assistant] He's 20 of 26 for 150 yards and two touchdowns. Wow, okay. Yeaah. Yeaah. I mean, Ryan Finley's gonna be the backup in Cincinnati. I've already seen enough to know that he is.


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[Assistant] Uh, more talent, he plays the position better than a guy like Jeff Driscoll. Uhm, Finley, as you may remember, I also had him in front of Daniel Jones, and I would argue there too. Tell me what the difference between Daniel Jones, Jared Stidham, and Ryan Finley is. It's, they're, they're very similar guys in their aspect. Finley really plays big.


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[Assistant] He's uh, he looks like he's 6'7 out there, even though he's like 6'4 in change.


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[Assistant] Another sneaky good athlete. Okay, his arm is maybe not as powerful as Daniel Jones or Jared Situm.


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[Assistant] He kinda, it's still a good arm to where you go, oh, there's no problem with him making any throw. I mean, he can make them all. The thing I really love about Finley, and I love this coming out,


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[Assistant] His accuracy is off the charts. With any type of throw. I mean, it's like, damn, bullseye. Damn, bullseye. Whoa, he's moving in the pocket and people around him. Damn, bullseye. I mean, that's what really jumps out to me.


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[Assistant] He doesn't, yea, without overpowering the football always, like I said, this might not be a 98 mile per hour fastball, but it's 95 or 96. And he's just got a great, great,


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[Assistant] Anticipatory, is that a real word? Anticipatory. Yeah, that's a good one. Feel of like, ooh, there's the window. I can put just the right touch on this ball to where when the guy hits the window, it's gonna hit him right in the chest.


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[Assistant] He really has a great feel. He really plays the position the way it's meant to be played. And yeaah, I would say watch out for Ryan Finley there in Cincinnati. I mean, I think he could be a guy that takes over the reins there at some point.


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[Assistant] I mean, we really should. He's kind of a big deal. Uh, but Peter King podcast, uh, another one. You gotta listen to Peter King. He's still on his training camp tour. He's getting every big star ever known to mankind in the NFL right now. This week, Jason Whitten and


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[Assistant] Uh, and then of course all content is on NBCSports.com, but Peter, I don't know how he does it.


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[Assistant] Peter is amazing. He really is. Just being around him in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, you know, the relationships he has and you know he's a big deal. The stars always come over to say hi to him. The coaches want to talk to him.


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[Assistant] But, uh, yeaah, I would say anybody. Peter King Podcast. Not only does he have every inside story in the NFL, he's got great guests and can ask some, uh, fun questions. Always a good listen.


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[Assistant] Miami's not winning the Super Bowl. They're not that talented. Uh, I'm, I'm still good on Josh Rosen. That fast enough?


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[Assistant] Yes, like throwing the ball, he'll be like this. And again, I'm a lefty, so you gotta switch it around. But he's throwing a ball over here where, okay, Tom Brady would be like this, right? He'd be like, oh, okay, your weight's on.


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[Assistant] He's like this at times, and throwing it, and it's making it very hard, it's making it high effort throws, I just worry about that. But either way, he's young, I knew he was raw, but he has shown enough of his talent of his arm to go, ooh wow, there could be something in this kid.


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[Assistant] I am one of the most impressive guys in all of football right now. Sam Darnold is on an arc right now to get himself in the conversation. And I know it's preseason game number two to where I go, this is going to be one of the 10 best quarterbacks in football next year when I have to make my quarterback rankings.


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[Assistant] My only concern with him was, like, can he make the explosive plays, the push the ball, 20 yard plus throws down the field, the stretch of defense out and make those, he is showing me that in the preseason. Phenomenal feet, phenomenal quick release, and when shit breaks down, damn, Sammy D can play backyard football as good as anybody there is.


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[Assistant] Same, same type of thing, except with Josh Allen, I didn't worry about the explosive throws, I worried about can he continue to hit the short intermediate throws, be accurate, accurate enough to where he can put the ball on the guy and the money to where he can run after the catch.


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[Assistant] Whoa. Watch the Carolina Panther game. There's a number of throws. The offense around them. Cole Beasley working the field like Edelman. This is Brian Dayball. He came from New England. They're running the New England offense. But Josh Allen has already shown that the accuracy thing is not going to be an issue. He can throw it.


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[Assistant] Not only with power, he's a great athlete, but he's understanding how to play quarterback, like super impressed. I'm telling you, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen has a chance to be like...


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[Assistant] Andre Dillard? Andre Dillard, first round pick out of Washington State. I mean, he's playing left tackle right now because Jason Peters is not in there.


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[Assistant] They got their franchise left tackle whenever they want him to take over for Jason Peters. Looks the part, is the part. He's probably going to be guard, uh, when Jason Peters gets back in the lineup to get their best five on there. But either way, I really like what I saw. I mean,


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[Assistant] Ooh, I mean, hey, that's one of the big question marks on football. Deshaun Watson, you watched it last year, got sacked all those times. Oh, can they protect him, do all that? They draft Titus Howard in the first round.


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[Assistant] They get Max Sharping, uh, was it in the second or third? I don't know, don't hold me to it, I'm close to it either way. But both of them, starting at guard, right now, okay, and look the part, they're gonna be there. First off, they wouldn't be starting in front of Deshaun Watson unless they had given the, the coaches had got the comments to go, oh no.


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[Assistant] These guys block JJ Watt every day and they're doing fine, so they're gonna be okay this week. Like, really impressed with them. I was kinda down on the Texans because of the Houston Line questions I had going into it. Last two weeks made me think, damn.


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[Assistant] Houston's gonna be a pain in the butt when I gotta pick my playoffs teams now because the old line might be better than I thought.


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[Assistant] Okay, they don't even have Jimmy Smith out there right now. But let me just say, with Marlon Humphrey, Brandon Carr,


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[Assistant] Since Ed Reed. And you can see, or also got a rocket up his butt. I'm like pumped about what I saw from that secondary.


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[Assistant] He's popped to me last week in the preseason game. Long athletic freak, a lot like Brian Burns. Not saying he's going to be a starter, but he's going to be in that pass rush rotation. Watch out for him, that's all I'll say. I think he's been the best first round defensive lineman in the NFL so far. He's been better than Quentin Williams, Ed Oliver, any of them.


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[Assistant] Lawrence is a space eater, but holy crap, his power and ability to push people back in the pocket. It's apparent right off the bat. I've been really impressed. Packers cornered Tony Brown? Tony Brown? An undrafted?


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[Assistant] Okay, he was on the Rams, I believe, for a little bit. When they go nickel defense, he's the starting corner right now. He ran 4-3-5 at the combine, right? So I'm watching this and I'm going, man, who's this 28? He can really run.


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[Assistant] And, you know, Jair Alexander, the safety is un-pumped about all of them. But you put Tony Brown on the outside and then they move Tremont Williams inside at nickel when they do that. Like,


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[Assistant] He is, have some freaky traits, he's very twitchy, okay, but he just has an unbelievable motor. He's gotten a few sacks even in this game last week where it wasn't like he just obliterated people, but he never gives up on the play, and then he gets to the quarterback, gets the sack, but can do everything. Dropping the coverage, take on the run,


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[Assistant] Versatile, smart, shocker that Bill Belichick found him. I'm really shocked that he found this guy. But he's just perfect fit up there and he's gonna have a little role within that team. Is that fast enough? We did it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, how are they? They're great! I don't, I think I've only met one, and I'm ashamed to say I'm not sure which one I met.


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[Assistant] They're grinding as well. Yeah, and the latest episode, uh, recaps, uh, all the matches from week two drama with, uh, help me at VAR in the draw. That's VAR. Okay. Both footballs having issues with replay review. They're having a replay review.


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[Assistant] We are not. We are not underreacting. Uhm, first off, Caleb McGarry, he had a little surgical procedure, so he's not out there right now. Their first round pick. First round pick. Their second first round pick. Their first first round pick, Chris Lindstrom, the guard, has looked phenomenal. So I'm not worried about him at all. This will go back to like a little bit what we talked about with some of the other quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] The Jets would be one of the teams I would say I don't want to play them in the preseason because Greg Williams


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[Assistant] He throws the kitchen sink at you even in the preseason. And that's what they did a little bit to where I think they caught Atlanta off guard to going, hey, we're in preseason mode.


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[Assistant] Whoa, you're gonna bring these blitzes at us? I mean, there was a point where they brought double corner blitzes. Like, that happens, like a double corner blitz happens like once or twice a regular season against yourself, let alone, you're not expecting it preseason too. So I think that's caught them off guard a little bit. I'm not worried about it.


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[Assistant] It's alright, I'm not panicked yet. Uhm. I don't panic with stuff like that. I would panic if we saw...


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[Assistant] For the same four blitzes in a row, and they still can't figure out a pickup, then I would go, okay, they're either idiots or not being coached well, or I panic with like, it's a four man rush, and man, you're just getting overpowered all the time, then I start to go, well damn, these guys just might not be very good, and that's where, that's what I look for in preseason.


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[Assistant] We're underreacting to the fact that he looks freaking phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Just from pure looks and the way that game played out. I mean, Teddy Bridgewater I know was under the weather. He played bad. There's no other way to just discuss that, okay? I mean, it was bad.


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[Assistant] And I, I know they said he was sick and they thought about not playing him, so, hey, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt there. But I know Taysom Hill showed some, some qualities that NFL quarterbacks, starting NFL quarterbacks, big time NFL quarterbacks have. First off, uhm, he's learned how to throw, like, with accuracy, with touch.


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[Assistant] Uh, with a little anticipation, all of those things. I mean, that's the first thing that jumped out to me. I kinda saw the game, and saw some of the things live, and then saw some highlights, and I was like, damn, okay, this isn't just like, gadget, taste some hill, hey, somebody run deep, and I'll just throw it as far as I can, and hopefully we hit it. He was running the offense.


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[Assistant] Man, Ahmed, it was like, really impressive. I mean, really impressive. And again, I know this wasn't the starting defense for the Los Angeles Chargers. They had some quality backups and things like that, but I just came away going, I mean, he had two incompletions that were a drop.


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[Assistant] One was a guy that purely just dropped it because I think the ball came up, it was like a 20 yard hour, his first throw of the game. It went off the guy's face because I think he was like, whoa, that was a laser and he wasn't expecting it. Another one he throws a completion, the guy steps out of bounds and he was, had nobody around him. But, I mean, he, he,


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[Assistant] He, I just was, the way he played in the pocket, he wasn't looking to scramble, he was looking to throw first. If things broke down, then he made a play with his legs. Uh, I just, I find that intriguing.


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[Assistant] He has more talent than Teddy Bridgewater. He has more of a presence than Teddy Bridgewater. I just wonder if they would make him the backup. Or if Bridgewater's the backup and Taysom Hill's still gonna be just a gadget guy. But what if Breeze did get hurt?


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[Assistant] Week five, week six. You'd rather have Hill. I would, I think Hill...


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[Assistant] Fits the offense of what the saints are right now.


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[Assistant] A lot better than Teddy Bridgewater. I mean, the Sames could almost to a degree play football like the Baltimore Ravens did last year. I don't mean like with Lamar, but they really could. They're one of the best run teams in football. They have a great offense line. We know they have Alvin Kamara, right?


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[Assistant] Sean Payton loves boots and play actions. All those things.


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[Assistant] Fit Taysom Hill to a T. Let alone, there's already a package in the offense for him, for when he wants to run the ball and they want to do those gadget type things. So, I mean, I came out pretty like blown away with what I saw to go, ooh, there's a chance here, not only for a guy to be a backup, like, he really might be something down the road.


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[Assistant] I think that there's a, that is a real possibility. And I don't know if I would have said that last year. And even last year, I knew that like, Sean Payton was obsessed with him already. Like this is his baby. This is his little toy. Like, like Antonio Brown is to John Gruden. This was his to, to Taysom Hill.


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[Assistant] You know, again, it's not all about the stats. The decision making was right.


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[Assistant] Where he wanted to throw the ball was right. You know, just like, okay, the guy's covered, but I'm going to put it out here instead of right here. Damn, it went out there. I mean, it just, all those things look the right way.


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[Assistant] And the motion looks smooth and effortless, and he throws freaking missiles when he wants to, and they're perfect spirals.


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[Assistant] I think it is very intriguing to see kind of what happens there.


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[Assistant] They are, I think they're gonna run him every bit as much as they did last year, okay? Just don't do it now.


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[Assistant] In the preseason, I said this on PFT last week, like, don't show any of your Lamar Jackson design runs, don't show any of your creative runs, I would really use the preseason as 7 on 7 for Lamar Jackson. That's the area we know he needs to improve on. And he made some throws the other night where I went, ooh, okay.


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[Assistant] You know, that looked effortless, smooth, on the money, ball flew out of his hands, all those things to where I would be encouraged that way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just think the team is set up for him to run the ball 8 to 12 times a game. If he runs the ball 10 times a game, he breaks the NFL record and runs for 160 attempts for the year. And that would be the most in the history of any quarterback. That's just not that many, I think, for the way this team is built right now.


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[Assistant] So I mean, I just don't want it to be, okay, I don't want it to be 288 calories. That's what I'm worried about. We get past like 170 and then that range I would start to worry about his overall health in the long term.


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[Assistant] But you saw his run, right? I mean, that was kinda like, he's kinda looked like, last preseason, I was like, he didn't look as fast as I thought. This is another example, I think, of a guy who's free, he's not thinking, he's in NFL football shape, and he looked like he, yea, had the rocket up as well.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I'd necessarily agree with just the Delaney Walker aspect. Yes. Okay, so we're underreacting. I'll go with you there.


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[Assistant] That'll certainly help things out. I mean, for a team that, you know, it is Mike Vrabel, we know they want to run the football to a great Derek Henry, smash mouth football. Well, gosh, I mean, when you do that, the tight end is, is crucial in some of that. Oh, here's the fake run. Oh, the tight end snuck behind the linebackers 20 yards down the field. He's wide open. So I think that


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[Assistant] I've liked what I've kind of seen from Arthur Smith's offense so far. The man who was taken over from Matt LaFleur. I mean, I really have. I mean, I've kind of liked the drop back pass concepts. Uhm, and I think there's, I'm not so sure the offense might not be more creative this year than it was with Matt LaFleur last year. So that's saying something. So there's a lot of things that could help.


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[Assistant] He's saying all the right things, doing, and that's what he should say. He's saying that, maybe not thinking that. Well, he's certainly not playing like it, I can tell you that. He's been impressive in the first two weeks. Uh, but I would bet Marcus Murray has taken that into account, looking at that, and you know, hey, when you got competition in the room and somebody pushing you on a daily basis, that'll get you to cross T's and dot I's, uh,


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say thirty-six. Thirty-five. Ooh. Thirty-five, so. Yeah, he's your old 49er buddy who they didn't utilize enough when he was out there. I know, and he was good for him. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Alright, we're done. I'm not enough. I can't talk anymore. I got a headache and I'm hungry, alright? Peace out homies. Ahmed, you the man. Always fun. Cool. Thanks for bringing the energy. And uh, check back in. Thursday? Thursday we got Josh Norris, okay?


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[Assistant] Rotoworld. Damn, I missed that one. Okay. Damn it. And then Phil will be on too. He's gotta do something to earn a paycheck around here. I am off my game today. Go ahead, take a shot.


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[Assistant] Whoa, okay. And that wasn't very good. I don't know if I'm underreacting or overreacting to that one. But peace out, homies. Have a good one. You know where to find us. YouTube.com slash NBC Sports if you want to see these two beautiful faces. See ya.


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[Assistant] Aw baby, I love those players only meetings, man. Ooh, they're special. A lot gets done, right? Special, yeaah.


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[Assistant] What's up man, everything good? Yeah, things are good. Chris Sims, Ahmed Farid, we're here. Episode 87, Chris Sims on button. I still feel weird about like saying my name along with the podcast. I'm not comfortable with that. I feel like it's kind of narcissistic and egotistical. No, you have to brand it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's like, okay, God, I don't have enough on my plate. All right, we got deep dive film. Okay, of course from last night's game. I mean, that was the game of the day. And of course, the shocker of the weekend, the fact that the Patriots got dominated by the Baltimore Ravens and then the Seahawks bucks won out for the second game there.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's start. Let's get it going. Film deep dive number one, Lamar Jackson, and the Ravens taking on the Patriots. Wanna play a little, uh, little clip from Lamar here just to start it off?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. We just wanted to know if, you know, what happened, please. Can you, can you elaborate? Uh, but Lamar Jackson continues to say all the right things and he does. He just wants to win. He doesn't give a damn if it's Tom Brady or Ahmed Farida quarterback. He wants to beat your ass. Other thing, like anybody out there who's not watching on YouTube or hasn't seen that video,


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[Assistant] Uh, Lamar Jackson, the towel grabbing behind him, right? And I think they thought like he was trying to dry his hands off. And then you could little bit tell some telltale signs. Most of the times when he grabbed his towel, it was a pass play. I don't think it was foolproof.


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[Assistant] I don't know what got me into being the towel thing a little bit.


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[Assistant] It is. It's more that he's dynamic. They post some matchup problems regardless, even if he's at quarterback, uh, for the, for the New England Patriots. So here's, here's just two things, really base angles right off the bat. You know, the Baltimore Ravens, uhm,


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[Assistant] This is probably the year they have the least big guys on their defense.


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[Assistant] Every team does. It shows through every year. It's a matchup sport, matchup game. You know, one week you can dominate a team, the next week you come back and you go, well this team wasn't even as good as the team we just dominated. But they pose a different matchup problem that sometimes can expose one of your weaknesses. And that's where the Ravens first have the advantage. The Patriots usually, you know, giant people across the board.


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[Assistant] But this year, they really only have three guys that are in the 300-pound conversation that they play on a regular basis. Lawrence Gaia, 315, uhm, okay, they got, uhm, uh, I'm missing, uh, Darius Butler, okay, number 70, or Adam Butler, excuse me, not Darius, Adam Butler, 65300.


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[Assistant] And I'm, and Danny Shelton, who is enormous at, I just want to make sure I get it right, 6-2-3-45, alright? They always believe in big people, because they two gap, right? They want to do two gaps.


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[Assistant] So that poses problems. Let alone the next time Bill Belichick is going to have to change the approach. And I think the biggest thing


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[Assistant] And I would like to say is, I don't think he's gonna be able to two-gap as much next time, if that makes sense. Okay, so two-gapping, right? So what they did a number of times is, they two-gapped because, uh, basically they'll ask their defensive lineman to hold up


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[Assistant] Just, we want you to hold up the offense alignment. Don't penetrate. Don't go anywhere. Just stay, head up with them. Lock your arms out.


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[Assistant] Like, Lawrence, Lawrence Guy, here he is, said Hut, and he comes up, and Ronnie Stanley just went right out and blocked the linebacker. Like, didn't even make contact with him, alright? Now, Lawrence Guy's sitting here like this, okay, great, nobody's blocking me, this is amazing. But he doesn't commit himself, because that's what they tell him, don't commit yourself, because then if you miss, there's a huge hole behind you.


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[Assistant] On the flip side of that, there's Lamar Jackson, okay, so here's Lawrence Guy, he's stuck, nobody's blocking him.


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[Assistant] Just that alone was giving them issues to where I don't think they're gonna be able to do that type of stuff going forward. I've seen this before out in California.


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[Assistant] Made it second and short, or it was a second down run that got a first down. It was the importance of the run and really his threat that led to Mark Ingram having 15 rushes for 115 yards, which you don't see very much given up by the New England defense either.


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[Assistant] But the big thing is, Baltimore did some things to New England that usually New England does to other teams. Like, New England, if they think like, oh wow, you got


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[Assistant] They did that a little bit, and I say they, as in the Baltimore Ravens, did that a little to New England.


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[Assistant] Because there are so many two and three tight end sets and then, you know, okay, we'll get in three wide receiver sets here and there, whatever it may be. But yeah, it limits the greatness of the Patriots defense, which


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, their front's not that great as far as stopping the run. Why don't we run the ball more? You know, we should do that. And that showed a great advance.


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[Assistant] Exactly. In the old, really, really, like any other year except for this, New England had


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[Assistant] More than three or four of these 300 pounders. And they would play the bare front.


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[Assistant] Right? And they would let three big guys control the two guards in the center.


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[Assistant] The strong side is where they had the extra help out to, right? They're worried about, oh man, the tight end's over here. Man, we need to put the safety down here just to get an extra guy in the box to stop the run game.


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[Assistant] Like, set the edge, like, you gotta funnel the run back inside, right? So if like, if Lamar Jackson comes outside, nope, I'm not gonna let him come outside, cause I got all this help inside of me to make the tackle. So that's like a, I mean, like,


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[Assistant] It's like a little fake up the middle or something like that, but now it's Lamar Jackson coming right at him and Mark Ingram's over there to where he can pitch it like an option. So, okay, he set the edge, but what do you want him to do? He's going, oh gosh, Lamar's coming at me and Lamar keeps attacking him. Right. And then he just pitches it off and he's stuck in a spot. So those are little things that like,


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[Assistant] And I just found that, I mean, that's, that does, like I said, just does not happen very much. But they will learn from it. And if they play the second time around...


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[Assistant] It's gonna be a great advantage for New England. It will, because they're gonna be able to now adjust off of that.


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[Assistant] You all, it's really, you get the out, you get the numbers advantage more times than not. So you're right. Because instead of giving the ball to Mark Ingram, now Mark Ingram is blocking for you and you have the advantage there. The other thing that it did to them more than anything, and because of your point, what you're talking about, Lamar Jackson's running ability, you've heard me say before, like running quarterbacks simplify defenses.


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[Assistant] One of the greatest advantages in New England and why they're so good


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[Assistant] Is Bill usually wins the schematical, the schematical chess match between the two teams. And...


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[Assistant] I'm gonna really, like, ruin this aspect. He had to kind of play it, like, simple. We're playing man to man. Oh.


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[Assistant] So there's that aspect, and it's the Cam Newton effect. It's really, it's why you've seen, it's why Cam Newton has a winning record against the New England Patriots. For my recollection, he's 2-0.


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[Assistant] You know, that's why when people talk about the running quarterback, and New England's had issues with that,


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[Assistant] No England's not known for like their great athleticism in their history for the front seven. It's their big, their sound, they don't mess up, right? And then Bill does creative things in the back end to take away your top receiver or your best passing plays.


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[Assistant] He's always been special. He's a borderline Hall of Fame guard. That's how good his career has been. Uhm, but really, just an impressive, not very often where you see a team


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[Assistant] Few under, few uncharacteristic mistakes, whether it was


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[Assistant] Jumping offsides by Dante Hightower at a big moment, or the jumping offsides on the field goal that led to a touchdown the very next play. New England did some things in this game that we don't see New England do either way.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and really the biggest thing was the defense not being able to get off the field. Especially, we saw the early drives and how they got up 17-0.


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[Assistant] Baltimore goes on a 14 play 81 yard drive. Probably the biggest driver of the year.


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[Assistant] With Harbaugh going forward on fourth down Lamar Jackson made a great corner route throw to Mark Andrews against Mandaman coverage against Terrence Brooks. I don't know if you remember that play exactly, but that was a huge moment in the game because 14 play 81 yard drive for eight minutes where their defense had been tired and on the field a lot at the end of the second quarter and third quarter.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you never see Patriots give up touchdowns and Patriots offense settle for field goals.


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[Assistant] It was. I mean, again, a little bit of a disadvantage, uh, where you don't see the Patriots be at the disadvantage up front very often, but their O-line's beat up.


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[Assistant] They're not the same. I mean, David Andrews, he's gone for the year. He's one of the better centers in football. You know, they're missing their left tackle. The kid, Isaiah Winn from Georgia, his first round pick. He's not there.


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[Assistant] Let's get into this and why New England eventually goes to no huddle because they just said


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[Assistant] We can't deal with these big people they have on front. That's the biggest issue. And Brady, yeaah, he's not great on the deep ball passes. More times than not because he's getting hit as he's throwing it, or he's throwing it deep because he's going, oh shit, they're collapsing on me. And that's really, first off,


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[Assistant] Brady's fearlessness in the pocket? Is he a little jumpy here and there? Sure!


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[Assistant] But like not jumpy to like Eli Manning the last two or three years. No. Like, it's amazing.


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[Assistant] How fearless Brady still is at 42 in the pocket. He can move like a millimeter. Right. And evade. In a way, it's a great, weirdest thing to watch. It's like a gangly Bambi, but he somehow makes you miss and moves around.


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[Assistant] You got a great sense. Yes, it is. It is. It's really effective. And of course he keeps his eyes downfield. Yeah. Tom Brady's amazing. I'm just amazed at his toughness there. And then really as the game went on and he realized like, oh man, I'm going to have to throw the ball under pressure. He just said, screw it. And he, they were hitting them and everything. And I give Baltimore credit too for hitting them.


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[Assistant] You know, I complained about this on PFT a few weeks ago, like, everyone like plays Tom like he's like the golden child, like,


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[Assistant] Alright, Brandon Williams is their tackle. He's 6'1", 3'36". The other tackle next to him is 6'3", 40", okay? Matt Judon, their outside linebacker, is 6'3", 2'61". Chris Wormley, the other defensive lineman they play, is 6'5", 300". You know, the size of the people they have


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[Assistant] Is, it's just, it's big person after big person after big person. And so I think New England realized, one, they couldn't get in some of those run sets where they want to stay balanced and do that. Two,


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[Assistant] They don't have great, like, speed of receiver. Other than Philip Dorsett, no one's really a guy that you go, ooh, I'm scared of him running by me. So now Baltimore, if you're in those like,


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[Assistant] So, so yea, Brady, Brady was seeing ghosts, right? Pete is in my ear saying that. But yea, because he's not sure either. So, really, ultimately...


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[Assistant] Again, this is a tough matchup for the Patriots. It is. The Ravens have some things on their team that pose problems. They, we talk about the Patriots secondary. Hey, let's not forget the Ravens secondary is real. You know, when you wanna go Jimmy Smith, 22.


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[Assistant] Marcus Peters, 24. Avante, uh, not, not Avante Maddox. Anthony Averitt, okay, 34. He's, he's an underrated really good player. Brandon Carr, number 39. And then Marlon Humphrey, who's probably just behind Stefan Gilmour from one of the best corners in football.


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[Assistant] They can't really rush the passer. Now, they can rush the passer a little against New England if it's normal tempo.


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[Assistant] As you saw when it got up tempo, they don't have speed guys off the edge. So they have to find ways to blitz and do things creatively sometimes and having good secondary people allows them to do it. So you're high on the secondary. Yes.


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[Assistant] No, Earl Thomas, I'm not. You know, I know, I wrote the one note. Like, Earl, yeah, I mean, you know, you heard Chris Collins were saying, like, man, they're attacking Earl Thomas in the pass game. Yeah, of course they are. Earl's, Earl can't run anymore. Now, Earl is still smart and intuitive and can read eyes and has a good feel for the game and he's still a good tackler, but when Earl gets in coverage situations,


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's lost that aspect and they were going to attack him just like you saw when James White got singled on him. They were going to attack him because they, I'm sure, I used to do that for New England. Make coverage tapes, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Earl, Earl does look like he has runs, and whoever's evaluating this keeps going, you know, doesn't run well, doesn't run well, or lacks top end speed, and then they, they attack it. They play that matchup and the scheme game, everything, everything to go with it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well what's your favorite fast food? Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A? Yeah. Okay. Without a doubt.


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[Assistant] For the most part. If I'm going fast food, I'm just going to McDonald's for their french fries and a chocolate shake. That's about it.


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[Assistant] Uh, once every four months. Something like that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm sure that's just what John Hardball wanted. But either way, they held New England to field goals twice. The field goal, the two field goals at the end of the half. After the Mark Ingram fumble, they held them to a field goal there. That was huge. And then,


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[Assistant] One of the biggest plays was James White tripping on his own guy. He's gonna walk in. It's a touchdown. He trips on his own guys. They touch him down.


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[Assistant] They have to kick the field goal, so instead of it being 17 all at half, it's 17-13 which was a big victory for the Ravens defense. Is that everything? I think so. Oh, last thing I want to say about the Ravens. Why would you even play them in a phone booth game? Why?


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[Assistant] So, that'll be something I think you see as you go forward against the Ravens. Like, the Chiefs and the Browns spread them out.


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[Assistant] And then, and really the Browns who ran the ball well in that game, they ran the ball in spread formations for the most part too. I mean, didn't they try to do that?


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[Assistant] Patriots or no? They did, well at first they didn't. At first they kinda came out to go like, this is what we do, we're gonna be balanced and change our personnel sets and we're gonna get some high formation and run and Brady will be underneath the center. But then they realized like, okay, we're not gonna win. And they adjusted and that's when they got into the spread out battle. You're exactly right.


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[Assistant] Two things about the Chiefs and we'll move on. Their defense continues to get better and pose problems. Hey, they did a good job stopping the run yesterday with Dalvin Cook. When you stop the run,


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[Assistant] Andy running the ball a little bit, okay, not a lot, but the big thing is, some of the things he's done in the past game, and I did a little package on Sunday Night Football last night where, you know, he, he is,


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[Assistant] Do like a post corner or a corner post or a double move and all that stuff. Uhm, so I gotta give them credit that way for, for doing that stuff.


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[Assistant] No, it wasn't. But you're right, the schematics of the play made it very hard. Because also, what, what, what basically happened was...


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[Assistant] You know, Minnesota was kind of going with the motions and trying to figure it out. And on the fly, they're having to figure out, ooh, where's my run fit? And that became the issue. And basically, Harrington Smith was responsible for a gap.


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[Assistant] Where, yeaah, the tight end came across so he's watching him and he's worried about him man to man.


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[Assistant] You know, the Chiefs and the Steelers, if you play defense and you can kick field goals, you're gonna be in the game. And the Steelers can play some defense. They were 4 for 4 in field goals.


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[Assistant] The Pittsburgh Steelers, another cheap field goal to go up 23 to 18.


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[Assistant] He's a beast all year long. It's a contract year, and he's trying to get paid. So I don't know where it is with Doug Dupree. Well, he might, cause he's having a phenomenal...


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[Assistant] Really fun game to watch. It was back and forth, lots of big plays.


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[Assistant] Uh, Matt Stafford was phenomenal once again. Matt Stafford is one of the ten best quarterbacks in football. He's probably just on the edge of the top five, really.


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[Assistant] You know, people, I don't give a damn what you say. You just, you gotta go watch Matt Safford play and just tell me who's gonna make some of the plays that he makes on a weekly basis. Who?


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[Assistant] You know, so that was fun. Derek Carr played really well. He had a clutch touchdown scramble there. We scrambled to the left. There was a game winning touchdown. But really it goes back to the Raiders.


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[Assistant] Yeah, two running backs. Two running backs. Try to do that. It was three tens. You didn't like the play. No, I do not like the play. You know, and just to back to your time app scenario too. Yeah. So I'm sitting there, and you're right. I mean, first off,


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[Assistant] And basically make the best player on your team, number 9 Matthew Stafford, one dimensional off of like a bootleg. Like to you, what you're saying, I would have seen, first of all,


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[Assistant] The best players on the field for the Lions during the day were 1 Matthew Stafford,


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[Assistant] Two, uh, Marvin Jones. Three, Kenny Golliday. Or maybe it's got, maybe it's Marvin Golliday, then Jones. Whatever.


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[Assistant] We think they'll bite it, and they were ready for it. They were completely ready.


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[Assistant] It's going that way. It's going that way. I don't think he's quite polished up in the past game yet to beat Kamara, but he's getting there. Mike Turico's podcast, however, is completely polished up.


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[Assistant] Yes, well, he's Mike Tirico. He's like the godfather of all announcers, okay? But download, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Today's podcast, Week 9 Recap with Dungy, Rodney Harrison, and Mike Florio. And if you watch on NBCSports.com slash NFL, you'll see


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[Assistant] Coach Dungy's dance moves, okay? The man can boogie on down. Also, last week, Mike sat down with Lamar Jackson. It was a great interview. You gotta check it out. And ask them whether he's worried about taking big hits. Let's hear what Lamar has to say.


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[Assistant] Say what you want to say. I mean, hey, am I worried? I mean, yeah, cause I like him. And I want him to play well, but I'm not really worried.


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[Assistant] He's wiry muscle, like freaky muscle, and we just talked about his neck, and it's like bigger than both of ours combined, okay? This is the other thing he does, where...


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[Assistant] Yeah, same kind of thing though. Same kind of guy, right? Always kind of either gets down or like gets skinny or just lets you get the edge of them. Doesn't let you just like pound them in the chest.


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[Assistant] Let's start right there. Because the strength of their, their, maybe their whole team, position wise, is their defensive line. Okay, their defensive line is, it's phenomenal. JPP, Shaquille Barrett, you know, Vita Villa, or Villa Vita, whatever the hell is damn good. It's interchange, it's interchangeable. Vita Villa, yes. Vita Villa. Vita Villa?


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[Assistant] That's their issue. When teams play zone, they're not that creative to stretch zones and find holes and things like that. What they are good at, and I can tell you and show you,


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[Assistant] One of the good things they really have in their pass offense, they have all the right pick plays for man to man too.


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[Assistant] That's really the travesty of the game. What they did to Jamel Dean, their rookie corner out of Auburn, who I really like, but has been hurt, hasn't really played,


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[Assistant] Makes his first start. And they put him in the toughest positions out of any corners I watched in football yesterday. And that wasn't fair to him. So, stupidly playing too much man to man was the biggest issue for the Buccaneers on the day. They had the run game bottled up.


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[Assistant] I mean, Carson ran 16 for 105. One of those was a 60 yard run.


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[Assistant] Where I would like to tell you. Which was a great run. It was a great run. And it wasn't like the Buccaneers got gashed.


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[Assistant] Sue and Bao, uh, what is it, uh, not, Bo Allen. Yeah. Were there to make the tackle. Simultaneously. And hit each other basically as they were about to make the tackle on Chris Carson. I think it is a candidate for run of the year. Yeah. I really do. Cause it looks like he really ran through the both of their tackles. You think they hit each other? Well they did. On film I kept slowing it down. You know, they had their arms out but it's cause they hit each other so hard they couldn't wrap up.


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[Assistant] We want to see it with our own eyes. It's just stupid. I don't know other way to say it. It was, it was the wrong game plan in general.


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[Assistant] Especially when you're, you know, you're missing a guy like Carlton Davis who was their original starting corner. They put way too much pressure on their secondary. It wasn't fair to them. So I don't even blame the secondary players for the Buccaneers. I blame Todd Bowles with that defense and what he did. And again,


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[Assistant] Always put the pressure on the money of your defense. And their money is, they have Sue in Via Vida. Vida Via.


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[Assistant] Who's 340 pounds, and JPP, and Shaquille Barrett, and they have these guys, that's the strength of their team. How about you like, let them see if they can stop the run first. Okay, and you have two middle linebackers who are good too. What are we like, worried about?


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[Assistant] You know, call their bluff at first. The one thing I know that's gonna hurt you when you play the Seahawks and you give them the opportunity is Russell Wilson. That's the one thing I know, for sure.


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[Assistant] Definitely. They got a change, you know, that's just too simple. I didn't count it, okay, but just roughly as I'm watching the film.


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[Assistant] What's, I mean, how many plays? I just wanna make sure. Tampa Bay, uh, Seattle ran 68 plays. I'm gonna say on 63 plays in the game, it was man to man.


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[Assistant] What's my best matchup? Oh, they got Jamel Dean in the slot, which he shouldn't be playing there, against like Tyler Lockett, who's in the slot of three receivers, and he can go any which way on the football field. Oh yeaah, no problem, cover him kid, yeaah, no problem. It's just unfair what they did to ask him to that.


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[Assistant] Issues of people outside of football with DK Metcalf, maybe that's why he fell a little bit, but more times than not I heard like


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[Assistant] Ah, his route tree was an extensive at Ole Miss.


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[Assistant] Uhm, his production wasn't that good at Ole Miss. Well, let's turn on the f***ing film and figure it out why. Oh, they only coach three routes at Ole Miss, so he's doing what he's coached. Oh, his production wasn't good? Oh, oh, yeaah, his offense sucked and so did his quarterback.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's why he didn't catch the ball? And then, let alone, I would truly, and if I took you back to my notes on DK Metcalf, I literally have notes where it goes


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[Assistant] It goes like, are they trying not to give him and AJ Brown the ball? Like, it really was like, hey, you guys are too good. We're gonna go over here and challenge the team, okay? I mean, it really was that. It was full Tropic Thunder throughout the year from Ole Miss last year.


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[Assistant] It's over-scouting. Oh, that's right. The biggest, strongest guy in the draft is gonna be good on a field where being big and strong and fast is really important. Huh. Shhh. I'm surprised by that. Surprised.


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[Assistant] Yeah. They were pretty good, the Bucks. Did a lot of good things. Uhm, ran the ball just enough to...


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[Assistant] You know, keep Seattle patient. This is why I thought this game could be high scoring. You know, on my, on our podcast with Flory on Thursday, I told, one of my things I said was, bet thee over.


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[Assistant] Uh, this was a scary matchup for the Seahawks. The Seahawks are not good in the secondary.


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[Assistant] To add to that, they're not rushing the passer very well. And, you know, within that, Jameis Winston's aggressive. We know Mike Evans is really, uh, talented. We know Godwin's talented. And we know Byron Lefridge and the Bruce Harriot's offense is aggressive too. So that's not a good...


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[Assistant] I'll say this, for the year has really been one of their better players and disruptive. The stats don't always tell it with Clowney. This was not a great game.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Bucks have a big old line. So if you, you know, they can slow down a big overpowering D-line. But yeaah, those guys gotta show up. It's on the D-line in Seattle right now. The secondary's not gonna get better. There's, they are, they are what they are.


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[Assistant] Anza, Clowney, Jaron Reed, first round pick LJ Collier, they gotta start showing up. It's time for them to start taking over to help out that secondary. And added onto that, just like we talked about with the Bucs, just to hit this real quick, they're another team.


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[Assistant] The hawks. They, they gotta change it up a little in the coverage. It's man to man. Or 3D. Or man to man. Or 3D. So James Winston can walk in the line of scrimmage.


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[Assistant] What is this? You're playing zone and dropping two safeties back? They didn't know what to do for a few drives. But, uh, I do think they need to have...


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[Assistant] More coaching creativity because their defense is not special this year. It's not. It's gonna, they're gonna have to win games with Russell Wilson on their offense. You said playing quarterback versus the Hawks is easy. It's easy. Because like I just said, you break the huddle and you just go, okay.


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[Assistant] It's one of these three things. It's Tampa 2, it's Cover 3, which looks like man to man except the corners just bail out.


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[Assistant] Or it's actually man to man. And, you know, that's, that's great. They don't have great corners. You know, their corners are long.


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[Assistant] And they're pretty good straight away speed. But playing coin are so much more about being long and straight away speed. You know, you gotta be able to break down, stop, start.


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[Assistant] Well, he's just so special. I mean, it just, you know, his ability to make big throws, extend plays, I mean, you've heard me say.


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[Assistant] It's not like the most imaginative passing offense in Houston.


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[Assistant] It's really played off of the strengths of Watson. Like, oh, hey, he'll, you know, let's, let's design this guy to go 40 yards downfield. Deshaun will hit the bullseye and throw it in there. Don't worry. No problem. You know? Oh, and if, and if the two guys we did send out on a route aren't open, Deshaun will, he'll dance around or run until one of them do get open. I mean, there's, there's so much pressure on him.


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[Assistant] So he's efficient doing it more times than not. You saw some of the plays he made in the game.


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[Assistant] Even though it's not like the greatest way to do it, it is a way of, oh, we have to defend the whole field because of what they do in their little formula.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the problem with the Jaguars a little bit though. You know, they do too much stunting and crazy stuff up front at times, and when you do that...


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[Assistant] And then, oh, just stop in the middle of the gap, even though there might be a 320 pound man on your back while pushing you, like it's just unrealistic and stupid.


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[Assistant] Can run the ball or wants to impose its physicality. And therefore you end up on skates because you're going, Oh wait, coach told me to get, you know, five feet to the right at the snap of the ball. So set hut, I get to the five feet of the snap of the right and someone's already pushing you that way. If they called the right run play, you're going to end up 10 feet to the right. I don't care who you are.


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[Assistant] They got some good little linebackers and the one thing I always enjoy watching the Houston Texans play is they will try to knock your head off.


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[Assistant] They play with a physicality that is, it shows up on film and it's very fun to watch. I mean, tackling is not acceptable. It's like, we want to crush the guy. And that's the way football is supposed to be played.


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[Assistant] Again, it's been a little overblown and overhyped to begin with. I know he's done solid, don't get me wrong, and he's made some cool highlight plays, and he's got a great mustache. Good hair too. Right, and great hair. The hair is underrated.


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[Assistant] After next year. The Jaguars can't get out of Nick Foles. They're stuck. They're not going to like


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[Assistant] Take a 30 million dead money cap hit in 2020 and cut him. They can't do it. So Nick Foles is going to be the quarterback when he comes back this year and he will be the quarterback next year. And he's better than Gardner Minshew right now. I'm not saying he will be ultimately.


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[Assistant] I mean, it was, uh, really the, the, the call of the game, like you're saying, because it felt like Tennessee had swayed the momentum back into their direction.


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[Assistant] And here they are, they're gonna get a three and out on Kyle Allen and the Panthers. He calls the fake punt, they drive the pile, they get it, and I believe they go down and score the touchdown there. They did, they did. You might have said that. McCaffrey scored.


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[Assistant] They got tore up by the 49ers a week prior. They did. So I thought the Titans were going to be able to run the ball. Okay, that was a little disappointing. I was sitting there with Tony Dungy yesterday, we were both going, did the Titans not watch the game last week? Because they weren't trying to run the ball early on. And we were like, what are they doing? Did they not realize there was a little issue there?


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[Assistant] They missed three field goals. I mean, that needs to be talked about. But I did think the Titans defense would be able to bottle up, uhm,


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[Assistant] The, the Carolina attack. The Carolina attack, yeaah, the run game, we know it's special. The pass attack is good. I don't always go, oh wow, this is like the greatest stuff in the world.


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[Assistant] Really what it came down to is their players made plays. I mean, there was some, Kyle Haum made some great, tight throws in man-to-man coverage where DJ Moore or Curtis Samuel


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[Assistant] So they exposed them. They found, you know, a crack in the code there. So, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, but I, I certainly was wrong about that one. And I, you know what, I also probably didn't think Kyle Allen bounced back after that game. I thought, ugh, you know, this might, this might go down into, you know,


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[Assistant] Yeaah, well yeaah, I think anybody should have took Ian McCaffrey. He's in the short list of the MVP candidates right now. Speaking of fantasy. Yeaah, Roto World Football podcasts are fantasy experts, okay?


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[Assistant] The best podcast to go to when you're thinking about texting me for fantasy advice is...


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[Assistant] F**k you, don't text me, go to the World of World Football Podcast, okay? That's what they should really name it. F**k you, don't text Chris Simms, Football Podcast, okay? But Josh Norris and the World of World crew are all over the NFL.


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[Assistant] Uh, they really are, they're gonna give you great insight. Today's podcast, they got week 9 roundup with takeaways from every game. Tomorrow, the best week 10 waiver wire pickups. So they'll tell you for, if you got a crappy team like Omid does, they'll tell you the guys that go get. Also, last week they did a full mid-season reset mega pod.


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[Assistant] Where they went through all 32 teams and broke down where they stand and what is their outlet for 2019 and beyond. Download and subscribe wherever you find your podcasts. Check them out. Josh Norris has a big neck.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're missing that. Alright, so first we got, uh, I'm gonna show you some tweets from this game. Oh. From the Browns, Browns Broncos game. Oh yeah. We got a little, a little, a little Twitter reaction, some pictures to go to here.


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[Assistant] I'm over the mustache thing, okay? I'd rather have the full scruff, what I see on the left, or just a nice well-rounded scruff, and, and just not a big fan of his outfit in general. Oh, hey, it is! It's a little like Uncle


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[Assistant] It is a little bit, there's like four coats on and they're all big, too big, uh, with a scarf, but.


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[Assistant] Have you seen that movie, Uncle Buck? No, I haven't. Of course not. You need to watch that. I hear it's pretty good. Holy shit! I never heard that. What? You've never even heard of it?


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[Assistant] You really gotta watch Uncle Buck, dude. It's a really good one. He has to babysit his nephew and niece. And how did that go? Hilarity ensues? Hilarity ensues, right. They think they're gonna walk all over them and he gets tough, right? It's actually really good.


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[Assistant] That was phenomenal. This is a film I'm going to watch tomorrow pretty thoroughly, because I would like to get a feel for it. You know, you look at certain things of the game,


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[Assistant] Uh, 1715 at one point. Maybe something like that. I can't remember exactly. But the browns are in trouble. Definitely. When you look at the tape,


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[Assistant] Right. I didn't even know that. He retired himself when he decided to go in the locker room right after the game and...


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[Assistant] I mean, what are you, just, you know, him and Daryl Roberts of the Jets yesterday had spouting off sessions on social media after the game.


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[Assistant] Stop, stop looking at that crap. Who cares? I mean, who cares? Who cares when my uncle David in New Jersey thinks about how you played? He doesn't know shit. He's a lawyer, okay? My uncle David is a fucking lawyer. He doesn't know shit. And he's missing a tooth, okay? So, let's not worry about what he says.


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[Assistant] He is. Because they're in a team that's kind of like, unlike like Adam Gase or the Jets, like, they have a lot of things on their roster you like. And, and some of their losses, they've outplayed the other teams and found ways to lose. And that goes, that reflects on the coach.


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[Assistant] You know, I like Freddie Kitchens. I do think he does some good things on the offensive side of the ball, but obviously things are not buttoned up. They mess up certain scenarios on a week to week basis. He's messed them up. The quarterback's messed them up. It's been throughout the team and that's not a good look for him.


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[Assistant] Something's wrong there. Well, this is his issue. This is his issue coming out of college.


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[Assistant] He led college football and turnovers his last year at USC. Uh, you know, I'm not giving up on Sam Darnold. It's not like he's got a ton of help around him.


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[Assistant] I didn't think they would quit fighting. That group down there, that coaching staff, they're tough, they're a bunch of New England guys, uh, they're gonna get that thing right and they're gonna


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[Assistant] Gosh, he's not tanking anymore. No, he ain't gonna tank. I just know Brian Flores, I've known him for a long time. He is not tanking anything. He comes to the office ready for a...


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[Assistant] Uh, so I look at some of those things and go, well yeaah, they're not very good at the offensive-defense align, not cause of Adam Gase, because the players aren't good and they're just, haven't been built the right way.


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[Assistant] Uh, they don't have a lot of ways or guys that can go deep.


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[Assistant] You know, the Eagles, yeaah, they're gonna have to do it a different way. Uhm, but it is a lot of work sometimes for their past game to do something because there's nothing to back you off. Alshon Jeffreys, uh,


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[Assistant] Four six guy, runs four seven. Zach Ertz isn't gonna scare you that way. There's just really not that guy. So that's a little bit concerning that way. There's one out there. Antonio.


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[Assistant] They had 9 yards in the first half. They had 9 minus 2 yards until like the last drive of the first half. Okay? It was shitville. They can't do anything.


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[Assistant] Uh, if those were touchdown drives, they would have been big, big trouble for the Bears and would have been a big blowout.


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[Assistant] Uh, the, the Packers defense is in trouble. I mean, there's no other way to say it. You know, it's the third, you know, I've been saying this for three weeks. Their interior defensive line stinks. There's nothing good to say about it.


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[Assistant] Middle linebackers, some of the D tackles, they're just, they're just not good. They're not gonna stop the run. And then it just leaves them vulnerable in the pass game.


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[Assistant] And, you know, you saw early on, I mean, the Chargers kinda controlled the clock, had the ball. And, yes, it was one of those games where...


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[Assistant] To at least open up other things when they're offense, but they were unable to do that. And, you know, usually when things like that happen, oh, the run game's not working for the Packers, Aaron Rodgers will take over.


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[Assistant] He can take over, but not when the pass protection is not there. Or there's two freaks on the edge who can stop him from dancing around waiting all day to make, you know, hey, nobody's open, they're doing a good job covering us.


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[Assistant] Yes, well that was last week. That was last week. Way to go to Zemma for one week. They're both awesome, we know that. They're both very good.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I think the big thing with them is, you know, Josh Allen's dangerous. If they can run the ball and play defense, which the one little thing that scares me about the Bills, and I'll be interested to watch this again, you know, too.


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[Assistant] Just was kind of surprised that Redskins did have success running the ball on them. I did not think that would happen, especially once they knew like Dwayne Haskins was starting and you know, maybe the passing attack wouldn't hit.


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[Assistant] Well yea, it's still a good defense, but you're right. Yea, they have, and they're not incredibly big up front that way, so, uh, that's part of it, certainly, but, I mean hey, it's still the third ranked defense in all of football, uh, in saying all that, and just totally yards per game.


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[Assistant] Josh Allen is dangerous, and when he does take care of the ball, you know, watch out. His scrambling and a few throws here and there can be the difference of a football game.


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[Assistant] Well, then they got at Cowboys, Ravens, at Steelers, at Patriots. So they have a four game stretch at the end of November into December where we'll get a feel for how legit they really are as a football team. They can't control the schedule. They're beating the teams that are there.


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[Assistant] Uh, and yeaah. And they've lost to the two quality teams or the one really quality team in the Patriots and the one good team in the Eagles, right? They only lost by six, it was sixteen to ten in the Patriots though. And the Eagles game was closer than the score too, so, uh, they're not out of it. That's every one, we got through every one! Way to go, team. Way to go. Now go watch the Godfather, you jerk. Okay? I have time now.


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[Assistant] I'll take the giant. You'll take the giant. I don't know why. I don't know why either. Why would you do that?


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[Assistant] They usually do. They get up in this grill a lot. Right. Watch me now hit this, this camera right on target. You ready?


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[Assistant] If there's one person out there who I know, I mean guys like you who've been in the building say that he doesn't know anything else. Yes. The outside world doesn't come in. No, I know. Aren't you supposed to meet like some Sunday that was Mother's Day and everybody had to tell him it's not okay?


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[Assistant] And you're good at that. I am good at that. Saturday evening, when the news broke, Bill didn't hear about it. Where were you?


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[Assistant] Completely. I was on the sideline working a PLL game at Albany on Saturday, and I thought someone just didn't know what they were talking about. Because someone at the desk behind me where they do stats, some of the PLL administration said, somebody said it, and I was like,


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[Assistant] There's no way that's true. And we're walking to the truck after the game and sure enough, there it was. There it was. Here's what I was thinking about driving in because my feelings about it now are much different than they were Saturday night. It was just shock and surprise. No way. Right. So three days later. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You've thought about it, you've read about it, thought about it some more. What's your headline?


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[Assistant] I think that's the question that a lot of players, and I was around it for a minute, uh, paid a lot of attention, but I wasn't around it the way you were, didn't play it the way you did, but my mind went to a day or two later what you just said.


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[Assistant] Number two, a lot of players, and I was in this category too, I'm not ripping people, they don't have a lot of interest outside of football. So that, that thought, what am I gonna do?


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[Assistant] What would I do all day if I didn't have this? I don't think Andrew Luck had that issue


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[Assistant] And he didn't seem like the kind of guy where that was running his identity.


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[Assistant] I like him more. He was one of my favorite players in the league. I like him even more now that I've thought about his reasoning and rationality and his courage to walk away. Of course he could have.


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[Assistant] You mentioned that you were disappointed because you're going to miss watching him play. Yes. One little anecdotal story about Andrew Luck. I think it was back in 2016. I was out for, for football night in America and we would go to the late kickoff game, the big game. It was the Andrew Luck against Peyton Manning game. Sure. And after the game, we've got this little, could be 20 minute, it could be a four minute window to put together a report, interview the star player.


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[Assistant] Colts won, so we wanted to talk to Andrew Luck. And it turned out to be the game where he lacerated a kidney. And also tore something. Had a scramble.


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[Assistant] He was way beyond banged up. He was injured. We didn't really know what then, but he was. And I was trying to get to Andrew through his PR staff and they kept saying no, no, no, no. And he was about 20 yards away from me. He was kind of aware in his periphery what was going on. And we had about three minutes left until we had to bag it and Andrew said,


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[Assistant] Guys, no problem. I'll do it. Send Paul over. It's no problem at all. PR staff apologize. Andrew Luck does the interview and everything works out only because... Right. ...Victorious injured Andrew Luck said, you know what? This is cool. I'm happy to do it.


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[Assistant] Yes, now, now we, like everybody else, move on. Yes. A little bit. Shelby Brissetta was watching you and Mike this morning after the kids went to school. Did I hear you say that Andrew Luck was worth two wins? I did.


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[Assistant] That's been a part of every coach's, every player's belief the last six or seven years.


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[Assistant] Pre-season week number three in the film study that you caught up with earlier this morning. I want to start with the 49ers. Yep. Jimmy Garoppolo. Big story with the week leading up to week three. He had struggled in his first outing. Yep. His numbers were very good. 14 out of 20, almost 200 yards. How did the film look?


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[Assistant] Let's stay in the NFC West and go a little younger. Somebody else who had struggled up to this point, Kyler Murray, his numbers looked a lot better in this game. A lot, lot better.


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[Assistant] What, what if a naysayer said, but it's still vanilla in the preseason? Just wait till September.


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[Assistant] The schemes and the concepts, did they look like things that were, I don't know, outdated, easy to cover, easy to recognize?


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[Assistant] Did you anticipate that, that red flag, so to speak, with the offense from Clifton, from Clifton's very?


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[Assistant] And you're about to make a 20-yard throw, like. And those are, those are different kind of releases because as I'm picturing, I'm putting them right next to each other in my mind, and Garoppolo's always been compact, quick. Yes, very much. Kirk Cousins isn't really that way. No, he kind of gets, he lets his arm get flexible and really gets a whippy, like you're saying. With that different motion, how did he get caught up in what Garoppolo was doing?


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[Assistant] And we, at this point, we're almost federally mandated if we're talking about quarterbacks pre-season because we don't know what the record's going to be yet. Right. Gotta hit Baker Mayfield. Yeah, oh, I mean, we got to.


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[Assistant] Of all the quarterbacks you brought up for their individual games and the scheme, Jimmy G., Callum Murray, Kirk Cousins, and then Baker Mayfield, it sounds like you're the least concerned about him today.


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[Assistant] It's a bigger problem than it used to be because a lot of teams are scheming to blitz up the middle more than they did a few years ago. Yes, right. No doubt. Right guard issue is a problem.


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[Assistant] Talked about Andrew Luck being worth a couple wins as opposed to Jacoby Brissette. Right. Roethlisberger might be worth four or five.


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[Assistant] And to me, I think Darryl Bevel might have turned the corner there a little bit. Think about how much you can learn when you're not game planning for the next week. And you know how it is. Somehow, wherever Darryl was last year, you know he had access to all the coaching tips. Oh, no doubt about it. Somehow found his way to his computer. He's not thinking about calling plays the next week. He can just kind of mix and match and sit down there and play scientist. So, uh, good for him. Yeah. Nick Foles. Nick Foles.


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[Assistant] It's a team that's had a lot of talents around it for the last few years. When was the last time they could think about the quarterback like, we got a guy. We've got a guy who can get it done. It's been years. You can see it on the sideline.


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[Assistant] Let's put your film watch into rest with three quick questions here. My first question, who jumped out that you didn't expect to look good?


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[Assistant] Yes. He's that kind of athlete. He really is. He's a special athlete. I want one offensive defense that wasn't vanilla. Yeah, they kind of push that preseason narrative aside. They showed you a lot outside of the ball with what they did.


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[Assistant] To finish, let's go AFC. We're going to do the NFC some other time. Over-Unders.


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[Assistant] I think it's okay to move on to the, uh, AFC over-unders via Fandual. I got yelled at last time I tried to get past the Florio promo, so sorry. Start a mic.


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[Assistant] Yeah, kind of. Jet 7. I'm gonna go over. You just want to make our producer Matt Casey happy.


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[Assistant] Defense is really good again. Defense is really good again. This might be the best over on the whole board. You think so? I haven't looked through all of them yet, but so far.


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[Assistant] He could be, he could be kind of a version of himself last year and still get the 9 and 7. I think he could too, yes, exactly right. Bengals, 6.


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[Assistant] Make it two overs for Jaguars at eight. Titans also.


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[Assistant] It's going just barely under. Okay. One over one under. Yep. I think the charges are gonna be better. They're at nine and a half.


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[Assistant] It would be a 50% improvement. It would be. Over last year. You're right. It would be. Maybe it's a win.


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[Assistant] It's like in Bull Durham, Kevin Costner, when he summarized to the bench coach that came out, he's like, what the hell is going on? A lot of shit going on.


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[Assistant] Two Robbies, like when you bump into them back there, they couldn't be nicer.


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[Assistant] More importantly, Halloween. What's your favorite candy? I'm still a big fan of the caramel cream. Right. All old people like that candy, so I get that. That's your old, that's an old person candy.


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[Assistant] That's what he was doing. He's getting inside information. I don't know. But what's up everyone? Sims, Florio, Unbuttoned, PFTPM, Collaboration. Alright, we're doing pretty good. Happy Halloween, Michael. When's the last time you dressed up?


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[Assistant] Uh, starting down that path already. Uh, alright. I don't know what the last time I wore a costume either is. I can't remember what.


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[Assistant] Well, that, that's so, so that's fine. He said you look younger on TV and then asked you if that was a compliment. That's so he was-


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[Assistant] Eleven and four versus spread. I was nine and six. Best bets. We're on a heater. For all you degenerates out there right now, we're on a heater. I'm eight and one the last three weeks. The last two weeks alone, you're six and oh on best bets. Okay, so we're looking good there.


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[Assistant] And then, uhm, let's see, for the season, you see it.


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[Assistant] Straight up, I got you beat. Best bets, I got you beat. Versus spread, you got me beat.


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[Assistant] Those are called daddy cigars, okay? Daddy cigars, alright? And uhm, I'm working this week, so no daddy cigars for me, alright? Alright, let's get to it. Uhm, I don't think I have to hit anything else here. I think I've hosted properly to this point. I don't think I've messed it up. Alright, Thursday-


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[Assistant] Uh, right there, nipping at the heels for the best team in football with the New England Patriots, the Cardinals, the Kyler Murray show. Been impressed with what I've seen from Cliffs Kingsbury. I do think


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[Assistant] He is more than just like, hey wow, this is Chip Kelly and I do what I did at Oregon and I'm going to keep doing it here in the NFL or Steve Sperry or this is what I did at Florida and I'm not going to change one thing. Cliff Kingsbury is doing what


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[Assistant] Smart people do. He's adapting to the game and he's realizing he's got to make change and he's self-scouting thyself. So I give him a lot of credit there. 49ers favored by 10 and a half on the road at the Cardinals over under 42 and a half. Uh, Mike, lead it off. What are your thoughts?


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[Assistant] I'm not going to disagree with anything you said. Of course, I think you're spot on. You know, uhm, the other thing too, when you talk about Shanahan's appreciation for prime time football, all that. I mean, when I hear like, you know, Kyle's sleeping


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[Assistant] The facility and has a couch, you know, in his office and things like that.


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[Assistant] You know, those are just little things, and I haven't talked to Kyle in a long time.


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[Assistant] Where I wanna go, man, Kyle's going next level right now. He re- I think he realizes the bigger picture about it's more than just competing with the Arizona Cardinals.


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[Assistant] I think he's realizing the bigger picture about it. It's about competing with the old grouchy man up in the Northeast next to the city of Boston in New England, where he knows he's got to keep his team on the straight and narrow on a week to week basis and stay on every detail if he wants to beat them and defeat them in the Super Bowl. 49ers are a phenomenal football team.


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[Assistant] You know, I really think if it weren't for the pedigree, I would say they're the best team in the sport. The Cardinals defense, not good.


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[Assistant] They're going to be in, have big time trouble stop in this 49ers run, uh, run game. I think it starts there and then they're going to have some issues as far as stopping that. And I think it'll make them vulnerable in the back end for some big pass plays too. I think, you know, Kyle Murray makes a few plays here and there, but my score is very similar.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I'm going 49ers, 34 to 13. You know, I could kinda see it being...


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[Assistant] Uh, but then somewhere around there, the game kind of gets blown open where it goes 27 to 10 or whatever it may be around there and the Cardinals get a late field goal, but we both see it the same way. Clearly the 49ers we think are going to dominate this football game. You got anything else?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's insane. I mean, that was another thing you did on the show today when you brought up all the, you know, the 49ers since their bye week, nobody's thrown for more than a hundred yards in a game yet. And that's team passing cause sacks get taken away from that, but that's still, it doesn't matter what it is. That's, that's unreal. All right.


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[Assistant] You know where we're going, baby! You sound like you're from London! Texans! Jaguars!


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[Assistant] It's Wanker Bowl 37 in London. I don't know how many games we've had in London, but either way, these two wankers of a team, which are actually pretty good football teams, and the London people in England should be, uh, very pleased with the matchup they're getting.


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[Assistant] No doubt about it. They are wankers, that team for sure. And yeaah, these two teams, as we know, they're in the thick of things as far as the AFC playoff picture. And the Jaguars certainly aren't out of it. They found their groove lately. Texans favored by one.