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[Assistant] So yeaah, the, you know, this draft class is supposed to be miles better than last year's draft class at quarterback. It may end up being slightly better. Kenny Pickett was the only one to go in the first round and obviously that's, that's worked out swimmingly for the Steelers, but the next quarterback wasn't trapped until round three. So, I wanted to mention this.


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[Assistant] 40, 33, and 1. So you guys are both right. And I mention that because it is not uncommon for successful coaches to get fired. I looked this up quickly. Tony Dungey in 2001 got fired after going 9-7. We know how that ended for the...


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[Assistant] For the Bucks, they won the Super Bowl the next year with, with John Gruden. Schottenheimer got fired in 06, which you forget about because he refused to play Phillip Rivers and they kept running the ball five million times. Uh, he had a winning season. He, do you know what, oh my God, I forgot about this. Do you know what Marty Schottenheimer's record was in 2006 when he got fired?


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[Assistant] I think he was, he was like sort of the interim or something, something weird. Mike Malarkey with the Titans. He went nine and seven.


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[Assistant] I will say this, like it worked out for the Buccaneers. I think Tony Dungy got the short end of the stick and John Gruden won with Dungy's players, no doubt.


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[Assistant] Right, my point is that the Buccaneers wanted the Super Bowl to win it, which is what you want to do. Uhm, and Dungey had to be the scapegoat. But Mike Mulachy got fired. They hired Mike Vable. You could argue that that was a good hire because Vable's a good football coach. Lovey Smith got fired in 2012. Uhm, he had an 81-63 record. He had gone 10-6 that year.


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[Assistant] And, and he got fired and they hired John Fox, which you could say was an F minus hire. And then finally, do you guys remember who, I know Sully doesn't cause he was, probably didn't have a beard at that point, who Schottenheimer, who his successor was Brunson in San Diego at the time?


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[Assistant] Norbell, you got it. So there, this isn't a one-off. Winning coaches get fired all the time. Um, although these are different in that these, these coaches actually had winning seasons their final year at those destinations, whereas say Frank Reich. Um, so is he going to be employed as a head coach next year?


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[Assistant] He's an offensive guy. Carolina Panthers have the top three pick with Carolina.


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[Assistant] Well, here's the other thing to follow up on that, Sully. And look, this isn't a call out NFL or a rap sheet, just to point out that a lot probably happened in the last seven or eight days.


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[Assistant] Not being a head coach is in the best interest of Josh McDaniels and Frank Reich because I say all the time, like these coaches, these


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[Assistant] Less pressure, less, uh, management responsibilities, and if you're really good at X and O's, embrace it.


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[Assistant] You know, I mean, it's easy for me to say, a lot of this is just guys that are ultra-competitive and want to be the best of the best and I get all that as well, but...


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[Assistant] I think there's a lesson to be taken from Nick Saban being like, you know what? NFL ain't for me, fellas. Peace out. I'm going to go win a bunch of football games in college.


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[Assistant] Okay, well I'll ask Sully this. Thank you for first hopping in. And then we'll get out of here. You can wrap it up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just got one more question. Let's talk about something. Good day.


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[Assistant] What do you think about the idea, I don't know how closely you follow college football, what do you think about the idea of thinking outside the box with someone like Lane Kiffin, who is incredibly successful at Ole Miss, has been incredibly successful as a college coach, has some success


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[Assistant] Uhm, with the Raiders, I think they were in Oakland, I can't remember how long ago, it's been so long ago. But he, he's a loose cannon. I mean, there are stories where, it's not a story, it's the truth. Nick Saban left him on the runway at the airport because he was goofing around and not showing up on time. But in terms of getting the most out of his players, being innovative as offensive mind,


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[Assistant] Is that, do you want to think outside the box if you're the Panthers or the Colts or is that a bridge too far?


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[Assistant] Sully, would you hire a defensive guy to call offensive plays for example?


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[Assistant] Hey, to your point, Robert Sala was the former San Francisco defense coordinator. And by the way, who, you know who the Colts former defensive coordinator was?


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[Assistant] The reason that Kevin Thame came up in my mind is because he is so sort of outside the box, unconventional in every aspect, but he gets results. And sometimes that's what's appealing to owners who are tired of losing.


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[Assistant] I actually like your theory about the perhaps leading into the defense. That's a, that's a good point. I'm going to give you credit for that when I steal it from now on going forward until it doesn't work. Billy, anything else you want to hit on or is that good?


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[Assistant] Yeah. All right, Sully, thank you for joining me and thank you for joining Brincid on his podcast as he goes on to do bigger, bigger and better things. Uh, best of luck to Frank Reich. Hopefully that job interview in Pittsburgh as the offensive coordinator goes well because we need you.


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[Assistant] And, uh, that's it. That's the emergency pod for the Colts moving on from Frank Reich. We'll see what they, they do going forward. But for now, they do not have a full-time head coach sit there at three, five and one.


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[Assistant] That's not a very good football team. All right, Sully. Thank you. We'll talk later, guys.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the big six podcast. You've been sports daily NFL podcast. I'm Wilbur and I'm your host. 72 dolphins could pop the champagne. There's the Washington commanders. Now the 500 Washington commanders defeated the last undefeated team in the NFL. 32 21 over the Philadelphia Eagles on Monday night to break it down. Ryan Wilson and John Brees joining me. Hello fellas.


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[Assistant] Ryan, the Washington commanders, I mean, look, it's a big deal. Like you make it to week 10 with as an undefeated team. Like that's a, it's a long time. You know, you, you at least.


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[Assistant] You had the discussion, not maybe not internally, but you had the discussion is can this team run the table? Uh, you know, there's a.


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[Assistant] Weird pretzel segment on the Monday night football pregame show where they, uh, pulled Philly pretzels out of a bag and.


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[Assistant] It was like they were in the, the logos of the team that they thought would take down the Eagles. Um, and Alex Smith actually called Washington. So good for him. He was right.


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[Assistant] Did Washington, did the commandos provide a blueprint for teams to take down the Eagles Wilson?


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[Assistant] Well, and this is the first time all year that the Eagles have lost the turnover battle, I believe, which is, you know, that's it.


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[Assistant] They're like plus 18, I think, coming into week 10, so.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Kelly Green Jordans would be dope.


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[Assistant] Third dog conversions, 12 of 21. And I think at one point they were like 12 of, uh, like, I'm going to say they're like 12 or 17 because they had a couple late that they, you know,


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[Assistant] Run, run, run and try to just, you know, burn some clock. 57% conversions on, on, uh, third down will, will help you all the time. I help you all the time. I converted their only fourth down to three in the red zone, 330 yards to 264 for the Eagles. He was only had.


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[Assistant] I mean, 18 first downs, eight third down attempts. Like as you point out, breach, you know, if you only have the ball for 19 minutes and 36 seconds, it is difficult. You have to be really efficient with the possessions that you have.


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[Assistant] By the way, that's the first interception, which I mean, it was a great, I mean, like it's in, it's in AJ Brown's hands and the defender makes a great play on it. Um, that is his first.


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[Assistant] That was his first interception in 71 targets headed towards AJ Brown, which is pretty impressive. Maybe that speaks and like, as we point out, didn't have to be an interception. And then the two fumbles.


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[Assistant] You know, you can't fumble that. Just hold on to the damn ball. And Dallas Goddard fumble was simply a missed.


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[Assistant] Play by the referees or nothing more, nothing less really. Like that's.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I didn't think that on a play where, whether it's a, I don't, I mean, a turnover play.


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[Assistant] Like a play in which the ball either swaps possession. If there's a.


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[Assistant] Like a face mask or, but it gets tricky too. Cause then like.


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[Assistant] Can you, can you add in like a, you know, a block in the back or, you know, like an obvious hole? You can't, you know, like, don't get me wrong. I think the face was an easy one.


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[Assistant] I mean, on the Goddard thing specifically, like,


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[Assistant] He doesn't fumble that if his head isn't yanked violently to the side, in my opinion.


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[Assistant] Hey, look, you won't get any complaints from me about trying to get the call right. Again, like this is in, you know, you don't want to review. I don't think like holding can't didn't something you really want to try to review because that's pretty nebulous.


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[Assistant] But I mean like a face, a face mask. Miss face mask. There's an official standing on the sideline.


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[Assistant] When I tweeted this out, the shot of it, because you can see it on the read, you know, just the initial play and he is, has an, um, uh, there's nothing blocking his view and unobstructed. He's an unobstructed view of Dallas Goddard being tackled to the ground. He saw the ball come out.


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[Assistant] He's, he didn't blow his whistle. That's why Jamie Davis is able to run the other way. He threw a little beanie on the ground. So he's watching the whole thing.


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[Assistant] It's hard to fathom how he misses the face mask while watching this play go down. I mean, and if, if he can't see that, if we can't have officials who can catch that kind of stuff in real time, then we either need more officials.


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[Assistant] You need to dial back replay. You could crank up replay.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like you have to go, it's just, it's in this middle ground right now where it doesn't answer enough questions. It doesn't solve enough problems. And like Brian J says, uh, the sky ref, like they should be able to say, Hey, listen,


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[Assistant] Cause they, they popped in and said, Hey, that way, you know, he was, he was down by, he was down by contact. And yes, his face was violently ripped to the side. We actually can't do anything about that. Like.


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[Assistant] You could do something about it. Make it, make, you can make it reviewable. You have the power to change that stuff. And I realized the owners don't want to, you know, they don't want to.


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[Assistant] Open it up to more things, but it's just, it's just where we are right now with the replay system and the way the NFL handles it is not


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[Assistant] It's not working in a fair manner in my opinion.


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[Assistant] I mean, let's just let's just use face masking face mask as an example. Don't make it. It's not challengeable. It's simply New York.


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[Assistant] Available watching, watching the game. They see a face mask. They buzz in and they say, Hey.


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[Assistant] There's a face mask on that play. It was a clear and obvious. It should have been a 15 yard penalty. Go back, blow the play dead.


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[Assistant] Give them 15 yards. Let's move on. And you see how quickly they do these in like, um, you know, people argue, oh, I don't want to do, we don't want more replay slows the game down, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.


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[Assistant] Which just means that the NFL has buzzed into the ear and said that play was incomplete. So they're changing calls on the field frequently, but not consistently.


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[Assistant] Okay, a couple of things on this. I thought it was a really really soft way to end the game. I think, I think it's, I think it's, I think it sucks.


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[Assistant] That, I, I, I agree, the rule is the rule.


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[Assistant] That you can be, you can get hit in the head, hit the head or neck area as a defenseless player and a late hit, whatever you would call it. And it's a 15 yard penalty.


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[Assistant] But to have a game, a divisional game in like that where Taylor Heineken takes a knee.


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[Assistant] I understand what you're saying, but can we see Saquon dive at like the one to avoid scoring?


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[Assistant] It happens. Okay, right. You don't have any example of it? That's fine.


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[Assistant] I understand, but what I'm saying is like, I guess my bigger point is that when you, the neat part, it looks like visually probably from a diff, it looks weird visually on the game itself.


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[Assistant] And as a defender, it probably looked a little weird too. Like I think that, um, uh, who was the, who's the address you're coming to? It was, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I don't, I mean look, smart play by Heineken, who by the way, got up and started celebrating, like, I mean, in a way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, giving yourself up. Yes, happens all the time. I just don't, I just don't remember anybody taking a knee out of the context of like, you know, taking a knee like to, you know, from under center. I mean, you understand?


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[Assistant] It's not a weird flex, it's just wondering why you don't have a single example. Some of you say it happens all the time.


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[Assistant] What I'm saying is the knee thing, I think, looked really weird. Look, he said, get down. That's not taking a knee. The knee thing looked really weird, I think, to, uhm, to the defenders. And that's why they're still trying to get Heinecke instead of, like, if he just laid down on his butt, they probably would have pulled up and not touched him.


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[Assistant] Wait, why would they come hit him? He said he slid down and gave himself up and he walks away. Like that's, that's a normal course of giving yourself up. The Heineken, don't, do you guys not agree that the way Heineken took the knee and sort of like how it happened in the context of the game felt like, uh, felt like an odd way for that play to end, right?


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[Assistant] If you watch it, he ripped his, like, knees apart trying to take that, take that knee. It was like an awkward slide. Anyway. I was just playing my hierarchy.


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[Assistant] Like just the flags were being thrown in the, in the, in the missed calls. It felt like once again, the NFL has an island game where the referees are exposed as a problematic issue.


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[Assistant] I don't think you can consider going back to Carson Wentz. Oh, I agree with that.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no, no. I was like, going back, I was laughing cause I was watching, I was, I just wanted to go back, I went back up to see the, the Heineken kneel down. He's obsessed.


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[Assistant] I saw, I was, I was, I was not looking for it. I saw a clip that was like, so the ref like, it's funny, like Heineken has before you listen to it, I just listened to it. It's like before.


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[Assistant] Like he's turned around and he's begging for a flag before they've even like actually whistled the play dead. And then the ref pulls the flag. He throws it so high, high to key, like before, like.


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[Assistant] I was just saying, like, and again, we don't need to get back onto it. I was just saying that the knee, like, like you would, if he had like slid and like gone down on his butt, like, but it's like just the actual knee itself, right? There's just something you don't see as frequently.


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[Assistant] Like they did not immediately blow the plane. That's what I'm saying. Like the act, the way that it went down, just the act of that knee versus the slide itself, if he'd slid or if he just flopped on the ground, I think they would have immediately blown it dead. But the way that it went down, they did not blow it dead right away, which is a little odd.


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[Assistant] Anyway, uhm, yes, I think Heineken should be the starter. You know, if you follow the money, obviously, Wentz would be the guy. I mean.


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[Assistant] It's sort of a body, like the type of like, I think he's a who called him fits magic 2.0.


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[Assistant] But like he does, he has like, he has, he's got like this, he's has, I mean, he's a gunslinger. Yeah. Gunslinger. Like he, what's, what's a word that, um, a middle-aged man that could use instead of swagger because nobody wants to hear me use swagger, but he has like a little bit of it, right? Like he likes it. Like he's like, he's got, he's got, he's got grit, he's got grit, charisma. Yes.


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[Assistant] But I mean, he's like, he's out there like, you know, he's bopping around. He said this is the biggest win of his career. Uhm. You just have to be willing to accept the Fitz ma- the Fitz tragic part of the Fitz magic package.


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[Assistant] But like even if, I mean, Carson Wentz has all, it has all those aspects of him too, right?


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[Assistant] You know that you can get the good with Carson Wentz and you can get the real bad. So why do you think Carson Wentz is...


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[Assistant] I gotta, I gotta take on this actually.


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[Assistant] I was talking to Darren Smith on the radio today and he was like, ask me like who I trust in terms of NFL teams. And I, and this, this is what I've decided. I believe in the bills. I believe in the Eagles. I believe in the Vikings. The only team in the NFL, I believe in the dolphins. The only team in the NFL I trust is the Kansas city chiefs.


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[Assistant] Josh Allen has looked like somebody with an elbow injury for the last ten quarters. I can't, you can't trust that.


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[Assistant] It just looks like he hasn't played well for the last ten quarters. Something's been off with him. He's had no more injury for some period of time over the last ten quarters, maybe less. Yeah, four quarters. He got hit in the fourth.


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[Assistant] No, I don't think it's crazy. Like the... The Eagles have an easier path to get to the Super Bowl because the Chiefs aren't involved.


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[Assistant] They have a quarterback who we don't have issues with health.


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[Assistant] They have a more balanced roster overall.


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[Assistant] And you know, I, I do, but I do think like on the trust level, like we just don't, we just don't, you have a, you have a young, you have a young coach and a young quarterback. Like I'm just saying, like I don't, the only team I trust is the chiefs right now because I trust Andy Reid and I trust Patrick Mahomes. That's it.


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[Assistant] I don't trust anybody but the Chiefs. That's just where I'm at.


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[Assistant] He didn't actually answer anything about the Goddard thing, but he's like, oh, the personal foul. What did the official see on the play? What prompted that to be a penalty?


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[Assistant] That was my call. I ruled the quarterback and clearly giving himself up. Therefore he's down a defense player. The contact by Philadelphia number 55 is only late, but also the head and neck area. So the penalty there was for the late hit and the, and for a hit to the head or not one or the other. It is one in the same. The late hit was to the head and neck area, which just sounds, I don't know, whatever. Just sounds weird. I just don't know.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think the Eagles, I think the Eagles win the interseason. I mean, I believe in the Eagles. I mean, and look, they have this one loss. I agree with you guys. I don't think this loss is not going to define their season, throw it off the rails. It's probably a good thing.


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[Assistant] I have no idea. Uh, well, no, no, it was the year 2009 or you're saying that the, since 2009, one team has won the Super Bowl. Oh, I knew it is.


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[Assistant] The 2009 New Orleans Saints. It is the 2009 New Orleans Saints. They, the Colts were both, um, uh, they're the Colts. I think both got to like 11 and up.


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[Assistant] Was there something with the Colts that you did? Did Tony Dungeon give up a perfect season? There was something weird like that.


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[Assistant] So, oh no, the Colts started 14 and 0 and then I believe rested their starters against the Jets.


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[Assistant] They played Peyton against the Jets, sorry, but they pulled him out early and then they rested everybody against the Bills.


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[Assistant] That's it for the Monday football recap. We go week 10 in the books. Be back tomorrow. Of course, every day for the rest of time.


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[Assistant] Thanks for watching, thanks for listening for Wilson, for Breach, Sean Brinson. See you guys later.


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[Assistant] Welcome to the Pick Six Podcast Thursday Night Football Recap Edition. Me, Ryan Wilson. You, John Breach. The other guy, M.I.A.


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[Assistant] So Breach, let's start with the, you know, Ravens, Buccaneers, young versus old. Your bingles could have made a little ground today.


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[Assistant] How did you feel the first half? The game was a tail of two halves for me, probably for you. How'd you feel over the first 30 minutes about the Bengals chances? And then why don't you give us an overview of what the final 30 minutes meant obviously for the Ravens, but also for your first place now tied with the Ravens Bengals.


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[Assistant] Well, even if you're a Ravens fan. So they ran 39 plays the Ravens did in the first half on offense. What do you think the run pass breakdown was?


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[Assistant] That's right. So the Buccaneers got the ball to start the second half. Uh, they didn't do anything because they are not a team that can score points.


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[Assistant] The Raven's next position of possession, five straight runs, and then they go pass, pass, pass, run, pass, pass, template drive, into a touchdown pass, and to, to Isaiah Likely's first touchdown pass. Oh no, that was the next possession.


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[Assistant] Uhm, to make it 10 to 10 and after that the route was on. Uhm, so a couple of fun facts as well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, well they're facts, I mean that'd be fun depending on who you pull for. So the Ravens became the 15th team in NFL history to lead a game by double digits in each of their first eight games. Uhm, in those games they were, let's see.


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[Assistant] But we know there are the records five and three. Uhm, so this is the first time since week three Lamar Jackson has thrown multiple touchdown passes. He actually looked really good in this game I thought for the most part. Uhm, had only thrown for 200 yards once in the past four games until this game.


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[Assistant] The Buccaneers meanwhile are three and four in the first seven games of the season. This is the latest into the season that a Tom Brady led team has been under 500 since 2002 and that's the last time he hasn't gone to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And here, this might be the most depressing fact of all. So it's definitely not fun. Let's see, total rushing yards for the Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] Was what? They totaled 44 Russian yards.


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[Assistant] The Bucks are averaging, coming into this game, 64.4 rushing yards as a team.


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[Assistant] And I want you to guess, that would be the lowest mark by a team in a season since when. And I'll even give you a team. It's the Detroit Lions. What year do you think that's been the lowest mark by any team in a season? 1954. Oh my god, you're so close. 46.


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[Assistant] So, and that average is going down now because they only got 44 yards in this game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, where's the old playoff Lenny? Or no longer playoff Lenny? Even averaging three yards or fewer. Let's see.


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[Assistant] Here we go. Had eight rushes for 19 yards last week, and that Panthers loss, yoyoyoy. Uh, in the five games of the season, Pornet has averaged three yards.


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[Assistant] There's so much bad football being played. I don't, so let me ask you this. Is Tom Brady washed or is it a function of injuries and folks not being on the same page each and every week?


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[Assistant] It's funny you mentioned tight ends Breach, uh, Cam Bray's out with a neck injury. He suffered in a Steelers game. Um, and he had a completion to Cade Otton, the rookie tight end on that T-point conversion. It was called defensive holding, but Otton should have caught it.


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[Assistant] They got the dude to play over again and of course ran it and Rashad White could not score. So he's not from lack of trying.


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[Assistant] Uhm, to, to target his tight ends. If you're watching on YouTube, Billy just put up the graphic. Tom Brady's lost three straight games for the first time since 2002. Uhm, I'll give you an easy question first, Breach, and I'll give you a harder one. Who, who are the three quarterbacks that Tom Brady has lost to this season, three in a row? Can you do that math?


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[Assistant] Can you name any of the quarterbacks that he lost to? And that streak was, uh, four games, I believe.


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[Assistant] Here, I'll give you, I'll give you easy hints. Okay, Chargers quarterback. Drew Brees. I'll give you the Packers quarterback. Brett Favre.


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[Assistant] Okay, now it gets a little tougher. Dolphins quarterback in 2002.


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[Assistant] Alright, this might be easier. Broncos quarterback. Uhh, Jake Plummer?


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[Assistant] No, not bad. 05 is when Plumber played for sure for the Broncos.


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[Assistant] 02, I won't give you the other hand, it's too easy to tell you the other hand. Who is it? The guy who came after Elway.


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[Assistant] So there, there we go. This is a tough stretch. Uh, Brady said last week that he's not, he's not going to retire in season. Um, minus, yeah, let's see, like minus


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[Assistant] By the way, uh, Breach, I sent you those fun fact stats to your Google and Yahoo accounts that you don't check your company email, which that's where they originally were sent. So look for that.


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[Assistant] Okay, so, uh, I'm sure we'll come back and talk about the Bucs in a second here, but let's talk about the Ravens, the team that won five and three, TL2 halves, we talked about that. They got back to running the ball in the second half and they were absolutely dominant. You know, coming into the season, maybe in the first few games of the season, the Buccaneers run defense was supposed to be.


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[Assistant] I don't understand the 32 passes in the first half. I don't know what Greg Roman was trying to prove the offensive coordinator. This balance felt right and it feels like something that, you know, they always say running game and defense travels. This feels like it's sustainable once the weather turns.


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[Assistant] How do you feel, I suppose, as a Bengals fan about how this Ravens team finally looked like the Ravens team you thought they might?


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[Assistant] It's a whole lot. And clearly that didn't come in the first half because as we know that they refuse to run the ball at all. So, not to look too far ahead, this is week eight.


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[Assistant] Who wins this division in the AFC North? And let me give you a little context, see if that sways you as a Bengals homer.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, week eight, as I mentioned, there are 18 weeks in the season now, 17 football games. The remaining schedule for the, for the Ravens has one team with a winning record. That's week 18 against your Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals have four games against teams with winning records. As we sit here, Tennessee, Kansas City, Buffalo, and then of course Baltimore. What do you want to do?


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[Assistant] I think so, but I mean, look, you make a good point. The Ravens beat a truly terrible football team in the Tampa Buccaneers, a team that literally lost to Mr. Biskie and PJ Walker. And you could argue PJ Walker is a better quarterback of the two, but they did it on a team that fired their coach and got rid of their best player days before.


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[Assistant] So there's that. And the bingles are playing the best football of the season so far. I think you'd agree with that.


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[Assistant] So here's another fact, it's not fun if you're a special teams homer like yourself.


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[Assistant] But at the end of the first half, your guy, my guy, Justin Tucker attempted a 60 yarder and it was blocked. I don't know if I ever remember seeing a Justin Tucker.


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[Assistant] Blocked. But uhm, according to...


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[Assistant] The folks on the telecast, he was two for six in his career from 60 yards, which seems bad, but it's actually pretty impressive. Um, any thoughts on the field goal, what went wrong and, and perhaps, um, should we expect him to make that because it's Justin Tucker.


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[Assistant] Or, again, first half, run the ball. Like, why are you throwing the ball?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I work noting Brian Jay pointed out in the comments and he was on the sidelines at the end of the game. Deshaun Jackson is coming back too. He was on the practice squad and he'll be, um, graduating to the big boy club pretty soon. And as Billy notes,


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[Assistant] Uhm, Kenyatta Drake looked pretty good too. Gus Edwards hurt his knee. Hopefully it's nothing serious. He just came off that ACL. He was running all over that defense. He had to leave the game.


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[Assistant] The Ravens feel fine. It felt like John Harbaugh was able to get his footing. You mentioned that fourth down call. I say that in the first half. That was problematic. Uh, but later in the game, I think on a fourth, they kicked the field goal in the fourth down when they went up 27 16 or excuse me. Yeah. 27 16. Um, let me make sure I got this.


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[Assistant] 11 points, 2 scores. And uhm, that was a smart play. They did not think themselves, you could argue that perhaps they did in the previous 4th and 2, with the 2 minute warning in the first half. It feels like John Arbaugh is sort of back within the confines of normal analytics instead of just crazy analytics.


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[Assistant] You do that, you get the running game going, you can get your players healthy, you only have one team on the schedule that has a winning record currently, and it feels like the pieces are setting up. But if you're the Buccaneers...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's like 20, I think they said 23 days on the telecast. I didn't think that could be right, but that sounds about right now that you say it that way. So.


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[Assistant] One other thing I want to mention quickly about the Buccaneers, we can talk about how they're doomed for failure, perhaps going to save the season. Uh, but in week 10, that's when they travel to Germany to face the Seahawks. That's right, right?


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[Assistant] Let me ask you something. If you're the Seahawks, are you pissed that you're flying an extra four hours east to get to your destination? Cause that feels like a, a competitive


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[Assistant] Let's do a quick 30 second version of it and then we can move on. But I was looking at the schedule as they posted it late in the game. I was like, oh my god, the Seahawks get screwed traveling inside the continental United States. Now they're going to travel to Germany, which is going to be four hours getting just to the east coast of the U.S. before they get over the Atlantic Ocean.


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[Assistant] You know what that sounds like? What? The YouTube short.


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[Assistant] All right, let's take a break and we'll come back and we'll, we'll talk about the Buccaneer's fate, good or bad, right after this.


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[Assistant] An extra 20 minutes or 500 more deep knee bends.


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[Assistant] There you go. So Billy asks, uh, has Lamar Jackson earned his new deal? I think Lamar Jackson was going to get paid no matter what. Like Lamar Jackson could take a flight to the moon and hang out for three months and he's still getting top dollar, right?


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[Assistant] Would you agree that each game he plays adds more money to his final new contract whenever it's signed?


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[Assistant] No, because quarterback in like every other position is latest guy to sign, sign's the biggest deal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, that's all I'm saying. He'll get $1 more than Aaron Rodgers, no matter what. He could throw 50 interceptions, well, not 50.


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[Assistant] He could have a bad year by Lamar Jackson standards and still probably get 50 million.


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[Assistant] Unless they didn't make the playoffs, then I think the Ravens would, uh. But he would get it somewhere else. Yeaah. So yeaah. So yeaah, I think he's getting paid. Uhm, meanwhile, the Buccaneers. So, they're 3 and 5. They have the Rams coming up.


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[Assistant] Thanks. And then the Seahawks game in Germany, and then they get to the bye. What's gonna happen over the next few weeks for this team?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you're starting from scratch on a team where the coach just said days ago, we're in a dark place. And that was after losing to the Panthers and before losing to the Ravens two weeks after losing to the Steelers. Everyone's hurt and there's no light at the end of the tunnel. In fact, you're not even sure how far down the cave you are.


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[Assistant] So the three and five, what are they going to do against the Rams and the Seahawks? The Rams game is in Tampa, the Seahawks game is in Munich.


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[Assistant] I mean, probably lose and lose. So there's gonna be three and seven, but there's still a chance. There's a path.


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[Assistant] Alright, right now, October 27th, who wins the NFC sale?


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[Assistant] They should have won that game, the, uh, the last nationally televised game, but Dalton threw all those stupid pick sixes. And if they play at 1 PM or 4 25, they'll be fine.


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[Assistant] They're terrible, they're four terrible football teams. Every person, every team they play is a tough team on the schedule because that's how bad they are. So I don't know if it matters who they're playing.


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[Assistant] I'm laughing, I'm laughing cause Will McClain in the comments says, Panthers going from number one pick to first place in the NFC South in two weeks. David Tepper's worst nightmare. He so desperately wants a quarterback and they're, they're winning too many football games.


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[Assistant] And I was sort of joking that Steve Wilkes had to go undefeated and he still wouldn't get the job. Steve Wilkes could go undefeated and he's going to get fired before going undefeated because he screwed him out of the number one pick. So Steve Wilkes, uh.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so pull a rich, rich passatia and, uh, be given a watch and show him the door.


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[Assistant] Alright, anything else? Preach? Any other fun facts? Anything that stuck out to you about this game? It wasn't necessarily that exciting, especially in the first half. I thought the Ravens looked good in the second half, but as we discussed, they're playing a truly terrible football team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, my takeaway when I saw that graphic was good lord. Big Ben took a lot of sacks and, and he was drafted 2004. Brady was drafted in 2000. He retired last year. Brady's still around obviously. So, um, Brady was much better to get her in the ball and had a better offensive line in general. But yeah, down goes Brady.


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[Assistant] Joe Burrow's number four, I'm pretty sure. He's taken so many sacks in so many years. Uhm, oh man. You have to get, uh, Brephar?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would imagine that Drew Brees is not on there because he didn't get sacked a lot at least late in his career. Uh, number four, it's not Peyton. Peyton had played long enough and he got rid of the ball quickly. Uh.


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[Assistant] Peyton didn't even get sacked 310 times. Yeaah, he wasn't messing around with that nonsense. He did a lot of chucking and ducking like Eli.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I believe that. Who's the other one? It's not Philip Rivers. He didn't get sacked.


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[Assistant] I don't, who beat the, the, the NRC Central team, I'm guessing is what it was. Is that what it was?


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[Assistant] Yeah. 98, 99. John Elway, I never would have gotten that one. There we go. Everybody's got Elway. Still have Sac trivia.


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[Assistant] Timothy Benson guessed Akeman. Akeman got sacked a ton. Where's he on the list? He took a beating early in his career.


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[Assistant] He's making more now than he ever made. Perhaps he's, he probably made more than his career in Dallas, but hey, good for him. And he doesn't have to get hit. You play to win the game! Heeeerm.


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[Assistant] Big harm, big worm. Alright, Breach, that's all I got, unless you got anything else. That's a wrap. That was exciting. Yea, first game of week 8 in the books. Ravens 5 and 3. Challenging your Bengals. Buccaneers, uh, I think safe to say, they're one of the worst teams in the NFL, right? The Buccaneers?


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[Assistant] I just mean like just stand alone looking at teams in terms of, oh my God, this is going much worse than we all imagined.


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[Assistant] Alright people, thanks for watching, thanks for listening. Uhm, I don't know how NC State did, but hopefully they lost in honor of Will Brinson. And uhm, we'll talk soon. See ya!


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[Assistant] Our perfunctory small talk before we get into the actual game. Oh my God, the game sucked.


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[Assistant] It was fun. So like those games are always fun for like the final seven to 10 minutes.


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[Assistant] The snack you got, you're like, are we gonna go live now? And we're like, yes. And then you're like,


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[Assistant] You went dark for like 5 or 10 minutes and then you came back here like, I thought I had time to get a snack.


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[Assistant] That sounds like if you took this, that's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. Doesn't sound great. If you took this game and threw it into a blender.


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[Assistant] And like, and like it would come out and made into like a smoothie and then you poured it into like little tiny goldfish sized, um, like a, like a.


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[Assistant] Victor Garcia correctly states that sounds like a sociopath type of snack. Uhm, let me ask you another question. When does flex scheduling start so we never have to see the Broncos again? Thursday night does not have flex scheduling, I believe. I have bad news for you. The Broncos are on Monday Night Football next week.


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[Assistant] Perfect. And, do you know, are you aware? I'm sure you are because everyone's talking about it.


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[Assistant] Washington, the Danny, Danny Sniders.


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[Assistant] It is fitting that your Super Bowl winner can only kick field goals.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Billy's already done more work in like two weeks than Devo did. Devo and you combined in five years. Obviously.


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[Assistant] Number three, I would say Alec Pierce really kind of flashed in this game and made some big plays and like that, the Colts really need a number two wide receiver next to Michael Pittman to develop. Now I'm not saying they don't make them great this year. Any, anything?


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[Assistant] That a thousand, a hundred dollars on a hundred to one. They went 10 grand on no touchdown score and imagine sweating.


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[Assistant] Are, are we going to change the phrase hack job to hack it job?


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[Assistant] In addition to the game management criticisms we've heard of Nathaniel Hackett. I don't know if he did a bad job this game, but go ahead.


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[Assistant] No, no, but I'm saying the other criticisms, criticism of Nathaniel Hackett has been that in two games so far this season, after trading a bunch of picks and players for Russell Wilson and then signing him to a monster contract, they have not been, he has not been willing to put the ball in Russ's hands to win the game. And I think in this spot, it was like, if I do it again,


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[Assistant] Or they call timeout after Russell up there barking at the line. Sorry, not immediately.


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[Assistant] Right. And so like it's, I don't mind that you go for it or, or I don't mind the either decision, whether you kick or you go for it.


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[Assistant] My issue, and this is always my issue with going for it and the discussion of the analytical stuff is that if your play call sucks, you shouldn't go for it.


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[Assistant] And when you, when you have fourth and one and you need to get a yard to get a first down, extend the game and give yourself, cause what were they, what were they on the five?


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[Assistant] Like, you're going to have three or four plays inside the five yard line.


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[Assistant] Your play call there has to be something better than Russell Wilson standing still. Like Russell Wilson is a mobile.


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[Assistant] Like elusive quarterback who creates problems for.


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[Assistant] For defenses when he gets on the move and I'm not saying you should cut off half the field and bootleg him, but at least like do play action. If you're going to run out of shotgun, do play action to Gordon.


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[Assistant] And then boot rust to the right and do like some flood action there. And you're at least going to get a look and you're going to like eliminate half of the defense. So play call itself, it just.


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[Assistant] They were going for the touchdown. They're going for the win. They're going to try to like that. That in and of itself is problematic from a coaching perspective because it indicates that Nathaniel Hackett didn't really understand that.


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[Assistant] While it was, everything was on the line on fourth down, he still could get a first down.


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[Assistant] Like if you bootleg, if you, if you bootleg Russ out the backside there, you run like a play action to the right with Gordon and bootleg Russ on the backside. He is waltzing to a first down.


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[Assistant] I said you don't want to cut the field in half, but moving Russell is a good idea because of what his skillset is.


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[Assistant] I mean, they just gave Russell Wilson a $245 million contract. How long did you stick with him?


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[Assistant] Oh god, I've made a huge tiny mistake.


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[Assistant] I don't, I mean, you're just not benching Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] His teammates came and picked him up and he got wobbly, like almost identical to how Tua looked. And I'll say this, that if this happens two weeks ago,


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[Assistant] Naeem Hines comes back and plays in that game. Okay, I didn't hear that. I was, I was trying to watch the... So the screenshot that's up right now of the final play, I just want to, like...


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[Assistant] But he waits, he's waiting for the guy on the, I don't, I assume it's Sutton who's clearing on the top there.


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[Assistant] There isn't, there isn't a defender right on Hamler's backside, which you don't see from that. Who cares? Just listen. The problem is that Hamler is not the initial read. Like he needs to be...


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[Assistant] You got the defender, you can see it. The defender is following Russ's eyes to the left. If the play is correctly designed and if Russ is in tune with the offense, he is immediately turning and firing to the right on the inside and hammer scoring and they win the game. But that's not what happened.


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[Assistant] We weren't in the play call, but we have to assume he wasn't the first read because he's not looking to him immediately. He ends up going in that direction, but the way that they designed this particular play.


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[Assistant] Created too much traffic with the receivers in the back of the end zone after he missed Hamler.


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[Assistant] I'm not making excuses. I'm saying, I'm not making excuses for anybody. I'm saying that someone is clearly at fault here. Yeah. Number three. It's pretty simple. But, but look.


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[Assistant] That I think Russell, somebody, somebody in the chat said that in the post game, Russell Wilson called the play. I don't, I haven't heard it myself so I'm not going to.


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[Assistant] Pretend that I know that's true. I do think Russell probably has Trump power.


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[Assistant] But the point is, is like, he is, he at no point is looking at KJ Hamler.


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[Assistant] There's three defenders covering two guys on the left side of the ball.


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[Assistant] If he is trying to look it off and go to Hamlet to the right, he waited way, way, way too long to do it.


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[Assistant] The play design has two, like, are there two reads to the left that he has to go through two progressions to the left that he has to go through before he looks right? Because if that's the case, that's a bad play design and poor execution and poor harmony in part on the head coach slash play designer slash quarterback.


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[Assistant] What's that? In the, in the, in the, when you watch it on, like when you watch like the TV version of the, the play, like there's like a defender looks like he's like right on Hamler and there's just nobody near him.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk more about this game and I will ask Ryan a question about time travel next.


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[Assistant] Gino Smith is better than Russell Wilson. And people would be like, like, people would just gloss over the first two items and be like, I'm sorry, wait, what? Did you say Gino Smith is better than Russell Wilson? Did Russell lose his legs in a car accident?


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this. Let's pretend we, let's, let's, let's, let's, we've got a pie chart, alright?


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[Assistant] And we had to divvy up the blame for Russell Wilson's performance.


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[Assistant] You, um, I mean my, the biggest ones I'm thinking are, uh, new coach, new scheme, uh, injury, Russ is washed, um,


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[Assistant] Add in whatever you want and like what percentage do you assign these various, uh, like issues? Russ is 65%.


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[Assistant] So like, I'm, I'm like, I think it's the worst thing. I'm going to do another. Oh.


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[Assistant] On the play calling mechanism between Russ and Nathaniel Hackett, because I really, I mean, I should be probably higher on that. I think that's one of the biggest problems.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then I'm gonna put another, I think I have like 10% left, I'll just hack it.


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[Assistant] I mean, I bet you've never called a 9-9 game before and Al's like...


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[Assistant] Buddy, I had a 6-6 game that ended up like this.


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[Assistant] Three AFC South teams are in the playoffs right now as we speak.


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[Assistant] And three NFC North teams. We're the Steelers. I mean, NFC East team, excuse me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's really having like these, are these videos loaded up? Can I load up videos of my roadcast?


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[Assistant] As Breach, Breach, what was the record with Frank Rice teams in the first five weeks of the season versus like week six on?


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[Assistant] That's one win in, what's that, five games? I think, I think you're gonna do something weird like three and two and we're gonna be talking. I guarantee it.


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[Assistant] He finally came around to Russ. Russ shows up in Atlanta at the Super Bowl and Pete like kinda kissed his ass. He was like, you know, I ripped your for a little while and I think you really learned how to play from the pocket. And Russ was like, I'm sorry, who are you? Can you get me a water? And Pete was like,


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[Assistant] And now that Russ is like struggling, Pete's like going on full attack mode.


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[Assistant] The Amazon just got all, every single Bond movie, which is kind of cool.


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[Assistant] They were mentioning it on the telecast and Herb Street was like.


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[Assistant] What's your, uh, what's your favorite, uh, who's your favorite bond? And Al Michael's like, come on.


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[Assistant] Yes, Moonraker is like this football game. It's like also why the Moonraker is why Austin Powers was created.


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[Assistant] It's, it's like, like the entirety of that is ridiculous. Uhm, GoldenEye is good. GoldenEye, GoldenEye is very good. Like I, like the...


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[Assistant] And I think probably Daniel Craig and then Pierce Brosnan and then Roger Moore would be my top four. You didn't mention George. Lazenby.


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[Assistant] That's disrespectful to George, but okay. Uh, 517 of the chat says the score was 9-6 for a long time because the Queen just died at 96 years old. I'm not sure that's exactly why.


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[Assistant] It's in the chat. Sean, comedy bonds are boring. No, bonds are great.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Oh, I mean, it's like, like, um, I'm trying to think what the, uh, uh, so, uh, gold finger, for instance.


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[Assistant] Connery puts on like a helmet and then like flies out on a jet pack. Oh yeah, I remember that one.


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[Assistant] Right, but like when he, when they cut to Connery like holding the handles of this like, like antiquated jetpack, he's like very clearly on a green screen.


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[Assistant] The special effects just don't work. I mean, even, even Top Gun, you know, like Maverick's incredible, but you go back and watch.


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[Assistant] Um, top gun, these, these, these, uh, the graphic, the special effects and the graphics, the special effects of like the fight scenes are very antiquated. It's like too much talk.


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[Assistant] John Ham's on the Peyton Manning, Eli Manning broadcast of Monday Night Football and he's like, I kicked Ryan Wilson out of the league. Like you'd like that. It sounded like Damyshek wasn't happy about it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, as Nick Ado points out, we're talking about Bond and John Hamm because that's how good this game was.


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[Assistant] You really don't want to get to 15 minutes just to just let you know how we go.


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[Assistant] Okay, that'll do it for us. Thanks for watching. We learned, I mean, look, these two teams are not fun. That's the primary takeaway from this. No touchdown scored. Right, Wilson? Shout out to both kickers, Brandon McManus and Chase McLaughlin. Sorry, didn't even talk about the kickers enough. Somehow. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening for Breach for Wilson. I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the pick six podcast, CBS sports daily info podcast. I'm Robert and I'm your host. It is Friday, September 30th. If you were listening to the podcast and audio form, if you're watching on youtube, youtube.com slash pick six, it is Thursday, September 29th. And we are live for a best bets slash picks show.


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[Assistant] I call some derision about my record last week from Pete Priska. RJ White hadn't said anything. What's up fellas?


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[Assistant] I was, I was writing my picks column late on like Wednesday and I was trying to, I was like trying to, I started to write down what my bets were and then, and then get them sent in to Billy early. Um, and then, uh.


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[Assistant] Yeah. The biggest never five and a half. I don't know where I got that line. I don't know. Fat finger maybe.


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[Assistant] Well I can't pick bangles anyway. Right, of course you can.


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[Assistant] The bingles, the bingles would be a best bet if I were, the bingles are a best bet in my picks column. And I was just, I was just transposing them over there. I haven't turned it in yet. Fortunately the bingles haven't written down. Why don't we?


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[Assistant] I can't focus on football, I can't focus on professional football this week.


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[Assistant] Really the last four days, five days, maybe that's all anyone in Raleigh.


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[Assistant] I'm curious, do we, do we have any, um, thought on what hurricane Ian is going to, obviously the safety of everyone is, is, is paranoid to anything else, but from a football perspective, I'm wondering like globally, do we know if there's.


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[Assistant] Okay, so we don't think there's going to be any games, because if this thing is cooking off east, it should go out into the ocean and not run up the east coast.


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[Assistant] Obviously, but we're doing a best bets gambling show. I get it. Weather and wind matter. I mean, that's the reality. I kind of wanted to go to it. I kind of want to be in another hurricane game.


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[Assistant] I've sat through the entire hurricane game. It's amazing. It's like, it's just insane. Why would you do that? Cause it's just, you could watch a football game in a hurricane.


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[Assistant] That does not sound fun at all. See, I think that sounded great. Uhm, the awesome, the awesome ask in chat, have I missed any game discussion yet or are we still in the obligatory small talk? We are still in the obligatory small talk general, uh, focus phase. Let's just get into the games because we do have another, uh, I have another show to do. Okay, as you know.


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[Assistant] That's just how it works. Uh, the parlays, uh, the parlays still dead. I went for, RJ went five and one and we three. I went three and one. Pete went one and five.


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[Assistant] All right, uh, I like, um, let's get the stay hot week four coming up. This feels like a chaos week. There's a lot of short spreads. Um, only, only a couple of, uh, I think maybe, maybe just one spread over seven, maybe two. Um, anyway.


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[Assistant] Vikings minus three at, and I'm doing air quotes there, at the Saints. Uhm, it's in London. 9.30 Eastern Time on Sunday morning.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I actually, I actually think I picked him to win. I think the Dalton move would be an upgrade just from getting like, James clearly.


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[Assistant] It's all their production on offense has been late in games and they're just asking, you know, just, Hey, James, go like, make some, you know, just go chunk it around. I think Dalton will be.


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[Assistant] A little more, a little better forward facing with that offense. A lot of it does look great. Uhm, the Saints defense is very good and.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, it's, it'd be interesting cause it's like Kirk cousins versus the Andy Dalton, right? Well, I mean, that's like.


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[Assistant] On a, on a, on an island game. No, great, it's not prime time.


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[Assistant] Tuesday. Neither of these teams, by the way, are taking a week five by. They elected to decline that. I believe the NFL gives you the option. They said, no, we don't want that.


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[Assistant] And so there, you know, that's something to watch for, uh, for look ahead lines in week five, the saints went to London and practice their Wednesday. Um, the Vikings.


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[Assistant] Like we're recording this at 1 is 1 30 PM on, on Thursday and the Vikings haven't left. They will land at 8 AM Friday.


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[Assistant] Stay up, work out, and have practice as well as meetings. This will be a Fox 9 in Minnesota. They'll be allowed to sleep in on Saturday, then lock in for game prep Sunday.


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[Assistant] They basically consulted with sleep, uh, they brought in sleep consultants who said they want to have their body clocks on central time as much, or keep it as consistent as possible. Stay on central time as much as possible, especially playing the Bears next week.


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[Assistant] They'll be provided, they'll be provided. I'm asking the play and the lights will be off and they're encouraged to stay out their phones. This is a little too cute for me.


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[Assistant] I like the Saints. I think the Saints is the best bet. I think that the Vikings...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I picked uh, Houston gets a spread. The Rashawn Slater injury, you can't overstate how important that is. I mean, he is a, he, I mean, he, he was, he got rookie of the year, offered to read the year votes. He was an all, an all pro player last year as a rookie and their drop off to his backup with his Storm Norton. Um.


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[Assistant] Terrible. His, I think his, uhm, or maybe he stays at the right, they bring somebody in at the left.


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[Assistant] He would, he did a sack, he took a sack down either two or three scores and was laying on the ground like wincing and grimacing. Like what his brain is doing.


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[Assistant] It's insane. Like this is, like this is, it was negligent. It was like malpractice. It was coaching malpractice because this is your franchise quarterback. You're about to have to give him a huge contract this off season after his third year and you never even remember the playoffs with him.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jaguars and Eagles, my Philadelphia Eagles, 3 and 0. My Jacksonville Jaguars are the principal. Uh, Jaguars, uh, Eagles, excuse me, minus six and a half, Pete, over under 47.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like the Eagles too. I think it's, um, Philly Philly is a really good football team.


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[Assistant] They're, I mean like, I'm not, I'm not trying to shoot my own horn, but like they are exactly what I thought that they would be. They are a team that is really deep on the offensive line, really deep on the defensive line, has a lot of skilled position guys now with the addition of AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts is taking a step forward and he's taking a bigger step forward than I expected.


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[Assistant] That's the only reason, that's the only reason it's not a best bet for me.


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[Assistant] Hey, you said they're walking around with confidence. You'll be playing harder for Doug. He wants to win this one.


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[Assistant] Nick Costas was trying to give me crap and say that, he's like, everyone picked it. Jaguar is showing the division. No, they didn't. No, they didn't. He's like, well, everyone bet it. I'm like, well, that's great. But I picked it. I made a pick. I can actually, I can pick, I can grow up. Um, that's a real fun game though. Bills at the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Bills minus three in Baltimore coming off that loss in Miami where they ran 90 plays over under 51 and a half. Pete, it looks like you and I are going to be the donkey, the chalk donkeys here.


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[Assistant] Oh no, I have the best fantasy over. I do like the Ravens a lot. The only concern about this over...


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[Assistant] And I'm with you, Pete, like I was just like, whatever you make it, I'm going to take it. It's just looking at the Baltimore weather. Um, it does look like it could be, you know, 10 to 15 mile an hour winds and, uh, pretty steady rain throughout the day.


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[Assistant] I'm just, I'm just saying that it's not like you would prefer if you take, when you take it over, you prefer to have.


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[Assistant] And both guys can run too, and I think, I think that weather, like windy, sloppy weather can lead to...


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[Assistant] A guy like Josh Allen or a guy like Lamar Jackson getting out in the open field and missed tackles and all of a sudden, you know, big runs. So, I'm going to be honest. You did take the Ravens plus three in the email you sent. Okay. I'll take the Ravens plus three is the best bet. So I got Ravens plus three. Uh, in the over. Yeah. In the over. It's the best, best, best bet. I'm not afraid to add best bets as we go, you know.


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[Assistant] Seahawks at the Lions. By the way, I think it's going to be a fun game. I think it'll come down to a late possession. That Bill, the Bill's banged up secondary is what, is what has me leaning toward Baltimore more than anything. Seahawks at the Lions. Lions minus four and a half Pete over under 49 and a half.


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[Assistant] Over down to 48, which is a little surprising.


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[Assistant] We get it, we get it, we get it at 49 and a half. That stinks. I would bet the over at 48. Uh, I will probably not betting this over. You know, I took, I've been saying that lines overs are a good look in.


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[Assistant] Uh, because they will, they can come back against you and they're willing to score quickly and they won't stop trying. And they also let you come back against them as well. So I would look to the over here. Um, I've got the, I took the, uh, I took Seattle plus four and a half. I don't even know.


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[Assistant] Yep, for sure. Uhm, and other, Dan Campbell didn't go for it in that one fourth down that he had late. It's like, that was a weird one. That was a weird one, yea.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Uhm, alright. Browns at the Falcons. Browns minus one and a half in Atlanta over under 49, Pete.


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[Assistant] I've got the, I've got the, I took the Falcons against the spread for on the site. Um, yeah, I know what you're talking about with the run defense and if the Browns commit to it and run the ball, well, it's going to be a problem for, uh, Atlanta. I do think Atlanta is going to be able to move the ball though on Cleveland and we're still due for a cow pits. Where is it? Where's the cow pits breakout game? It's gotta be coming soon. This is it. This is the week. Atlanta cow pits, huge game.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's take a break. Oh yeah, Miles Garrett status matters too, I think. And I would be, I mean, I'd be surprised if he played, right?


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[Assistant] Nobody knows he's back at the facility on Thursday, but they haven't decided what they're going to do in terms of him playing quite yet.


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[Assistant] But again, you know, they wanted to play off. So maybe, maybe that changes how things operate. And, and you know, Jimmy G, uh, Jimmy G's, he was, he wasn't good.


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[Assistant] Oh, by the way, Brady Quinn had a good point, uh, earlier this week. Gaynor Lofsky's not off the hook for Jimmy G stepping out of the back. Gaynor Lofsky ran through the end zone for like 17 minutes. Right.


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[Assistant] Exactly. All right. Uh, yeah, I would lean towards, I took the Rams, but definitely concerned with the Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVey matchup, another divisional


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[Assistant] Huge matchup. Broncos are the Raiders. The Raiders are winless. The Broncos are in first place despite looking terrible all season. Raiders minus two and a half Pete over under forty five and a half.


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[Assistant] This would be a bad spot. It would almost be like, hey, do you guys want to just send the gamers back to New England? Because they need an offensive coordinator and this Raider thing is not really working out well. He's already meeting with Mark Davis following games. That's not a great spot. I think, uhm.


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[Assistant] I took the Broncos on our picks against the spread, but I don't, I think I would prefer, I think I want to take the Raiders. They are, they are desperate. They're way more desperate. And Denver looked terrible.


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[Assistant] I just don't, I, I'm standing by my theory that Nathaniel Hacken is sending in several plays every, every, every time.


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[Assistant] And Russell Wilson is then like making his own play call of a mini play sheet and that's what's taking so long and why they're running it down to the end of the wire. He doesn't trust Russell Wilson late in games. I don't think this new coach he hired is going to make a big huge difference. And again, if the Raiders that desperate, I think I got a decent little home field advantage there. It gets loud and loud in that stadium and, um,


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[Assistant] Probably some Broncos fans there, hungover off of bachelor parties and what not in Las Vegas. But I think I'll probably be emailing somebody and flipping to the Raiders in that game. I like the Raiders here.


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[Assistant] Titans at Colts, man, there's some big divisional matchups this week. Titans, er, Colts minus three and a half, over, under 42 and a half, Pete.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it looks like it's actually going to go to four too. I, I think, um, I've got, I had Tennessee Tennessee almost made my list of best bats. I didn't want to give out too many. Uh, I picked them against the spread. If you're going to, obviously if you're going to get four, you prefer that. I'm not sure exactly why it's moving that direction. Uh, whether it's like injury base or just money coming in on Indianapolis, but three and a half in this divisional game.


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[Assistant] With the Tennessee team that has played the Colts well, uh, you know, Mike Vrabel is going to keep this game close. I agree on the Jeffrey Simmons factor. And I also think that we really saw it last week. It was kind of interesting. The Titans got Derrick Henry involved in the pass game.


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[Assistant] And I think that that helped to alleviate some of the aggressive, uh, you know, pressure that people were trying to put on the Titans run game. And so if you can get Henry involved in that pass game and then he started to really run well, I think we're due for kind of a, maybe like one of those just big, big, big Derek Henry games. Uh, and this might be the spot for it. So I'll take Tennessee.


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[Assistant] Steelers are minus three and a half. I thought we were picking three over on a 40 and a half. This game is pretty disgusting. I think the jets are kind of overrated.


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[Assistant] And I don't think they're very good. I don't think the Steelers are great, but, uh, I'll take the Steelers as a best bet because I think Pittsburgh's defense is by far and away the best unit, uh, out there and people are like,


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[Assistant] Is Zach Wilson going to be back? If he is, is he going to be like, is he going to be ready to play? Is he going to be erratic? I think Joe Flacker hasn't played. He had one good stretch against Cleveland and that was it. I think Pittsburgh is a better team with more weapons and a much better defense.


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[Assistant] Cardinals at the Panthers. The Panthers. Panthers are favorite in this game. Hmm. Cliff Kingsbury. Have a start in the season, buddy. Panthers minus one and a half Pete over under 42 and a half.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'll, I would probably look at this under, I think, I think there's a game that


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[Assistant] It's just going to be the after effects of Hurricane Ian that's going to sort of, because it cut east, it's going to hit Charlotte, going to hit here.


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[Assistant] So I think under is probably a pretty good look. Neither of these teams is going to be explosive down the field. Like you said, the viscous should all place a fluke play.


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[Assistant] Carolina's defense I think will bottle up Kyler in that, in that offense. And I do think Baker will be motivated against Cliff Kingsbury. Uh, not a best bet, but I like the Panthers in this spot. The Bears at the Giants, the Giants minus three over under 38 and a half feet.


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[Assistant] I have the Bears as the best bet. I just think it's like you're getting three points. These two knows that these two games you're getting, you're getting three points and again, a total of 38 and a half on a new, um, by the way, Pete, um, I'm curious.


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[Assistant] So Wilson suggested this and I kinda thought it was crazy. And I met some new friends, um, at the, just randomly ended up getting, uh, played golf on, uh, one day and ended up, there was a three, some, some younger dudes.


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[Assistant] Two Giants fans. One guy said that, uh, he thought it was Daniel Jones' best game of his career against the Cowboys. Uh, agree or disagree?


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[Assistant] I agree. Uhm, I'll take the best bet plus three. It's just you're getting three points. You're gonna feel goal in a game that's probably gonna come down to a field goal with a total of 38 and a half and neither team is gonna move the ball very much. So I'll take it. All right, we're gonna move quickly through a bunch of other games. Uh, chiefs minus two at bucks over under 45.


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[Assistant] I mean, you want to bet against Tom Brady, and I know Patrick Mulholland is great as well, and so is Andy Reid, but that Tampa defense has the talent to slow down, uh, Kansas City. And again, like Tom Brady at home, Sunday night football, I'll take Tom Brady, plus the points.


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[Assistant] Patriots at the Packers. Packers minus nine and a half over under 40. Pete, there's been some scuttlebutt that Mac Jones actually might play in this, which just sounds insane. Day by day.


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[Assistant] That, duh, Rubio knew coming in, like, and Greg Olson was like, that matters when you're a rookie. You don't feel like you're pressing when you know it's going to be one of your games. You feel like you, you know, you know, you're going to get all these opportunities. And so now maybe that confidence grows a little bit. I think that's huge for the Packers. I like, I think Green Bay rolls in this one. The Patriots just simply, if the Patriots didn't have Bill Belichick as their head coach, like,


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[Assistant] No one would be giving them a chance at anything, right? I mean, this, this team does not look good. Right. Yep. Finally, commanders.


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[Assistant] The artist formerly knows the WFT at the Cowboys Cowboys minus three with an over under 41 and a half beat.


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[Assistant] Now you guys are scaring me. I think I had to pick Washington plus the points. Uhm, it's sort of like a dead cat bounce game for, for the, I think Washington couldn't have been, couldn't have not have been worse. I mean, they got absolutely destroyed by the Eagles.


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[Assistant] Alright, I don't love either side in this game. I think you could get, you get good Carson Wentz for a half and all of a sudden the Washington win this game and Cooper Rush man, I mean, let's settle down the Cooper Rush hype or any sort of, I mean, he's, he's good.


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[Assistant] And RJ is someone who likes to do look headlines. You got two look headlines for week five, right RJ? Is that correct?


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[Assistant] Yeah, the seven may be related to London. If they take care of the Saints and you can certainly see that climb back up. All right.


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[Assistant] That's it for all our picks. Here are the best bets. Pete Pritzker's best bets. He has the saints.


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[Assistant] Excuse me, you have the Texans plus, oh you have the Saints and the Texans in a teaser, Saints plus nine, Texans plus eleven. You have the Bills Ravens over fifty one and a half, the Lions Seahawks over forty nine and a half, Browns minus one and a half, Raiders minus two and a half,


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[Assistant] And that is it. RJ's best bets are Philadelphia minus six and a half.


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[Assistant] Cleveland minus one and a half. The Rams plus two and a half. Denver plus eight and a half in a teaser.


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[Assistant] Along with the Arizona Cardinals plus seven and a half in that teaser. RJ also has the Titans plus three and a half. And I believe that's it, right?


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[Assistant] My best bets are Bill's, uh, let's see, I got the Viking, Saints plus three, excuse me, Bill's, uh, Raven's over 51 and a half. The.


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[Assistant] Uh, Steelers minus three and a half and the Bears plus three. Those are terrible bets and I don't really like them. Uh, that'll do it for the show. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Go Clemson.


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[Assistant] You show up for Sunday nights podcast, state wins, state wins. I'm probably gonna sound like I'm probably not gonna sound great. Let's just say that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, hopefully, hopefully I see the two guys I'm going with the last time, the last they took the trip last year down in Mississippi state and like ESPN caught one of the guys.


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[Assistant] Like, with his head in his hands, like, it was kind of meme-like, like, in the stands after the game, so hopefully, we don't get, uh...


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[Assistant] Thanks guys for RJ for Pete. I'm Brinson. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] My birthday is on December 31st and...


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[Assistant] What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports Daily. I'm Or Brinson. I'm your host. I'm furiously Googling today's date.


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[Assistant] It's Thursday, October 27th. If you were listening, if you're watching the podcast on youtube, youtube.com slash pick six, if you were listening to the podcast, likely Friday, October 28th, this is our best bet show.


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[Assistant] To just enthusiastic and happy to be here, human beings and Pete Pritzker and RJ White. How we doing?


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[Assistant] First of all, I logged on early and we started this podcast on time.


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[Assistant] There's no way, there's no way the comments, they're shocked that it started at one o'clock. He's just like one, like 108. I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get, we're trying to...


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[Assistant] You know, it's, I'm glad that, um, Oh, I got some exciting news. What's that? I've decided to implement my own new parlay into this show.


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[Assistant] Or at least for this week and we'll see how it goes. Uhm, I'm gonna put together.


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[Assistant] A package of revenge games and Pete, you can give me thumbs up or thumbs down RJ to on whether it qualifies as legitimate revenge.


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[Assistant] And if it does, we'll include it in the parlay. If we don't get to three, no parlay. Sound good?


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[Assistant] Well, I know that you hate the revenge angle, so that's why I want to play it up. And then we also have people, I think, like bosses who listen to this podcast who hate the revenge angle too.


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[Assistant] So I really want to lean into this revenge angle and get my revenge against you for the revenge factor as well as my revenge against unnamed executives.


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[Assistant] We got Tom Cawthon in the comments here. If you're not five minutes early, you're late. That's it, buddy. If I'm on time, I'm early, okay?


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[Assistant] Do you ever make a tea time on time? Actually, yeah, it's usually close, but I make them. That's what she should tell me is this is a one o'clock tea time. Anyway, it's a week eight best bet show. The NFL has been difficult to figure out, particularly for me.


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[Assistant] RJ overall, 22, 18 and one after a three and three week, Pete, 20 and 20.


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[Assistant] 2020, uh, after a three, three week, I'm a, I stink this year. I stink 1725 and two. I hope you're fading me. You fading three and five last week. Revenge parlay is going to hit there and that's where we start cooking. Uh, we start, however, in London, the Broncos at the Jaguars.


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[Assistant] The Broncos have not lost five games in a row since 2017. They're on their third four game losing streak since it started 2021 though, and they're two and a half point dogs.


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[Assistant] In London to the Jaguars, a total of 39 and a half. It does seem like Russell Wilson is going to play in this game.


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[Assistant] Broncos are the lowest scoring team in the NFL, but also the third lowest defensive scoring team in the NFL. More importantly, Pete.


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[Assistant] If you woke up on an airplane and Russell Wilson was doing knee highs down the middle of the plane on an international flight, what would you do? Triple. Triple. I want your airplane takes on this.


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[Assistant] I don't know what to do with the Broncos. I mean, I don't know what to do with the Jaguars either. I keep taking Jacksonville and they just keep burning me.


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[Assistant] I do think that Jacksonville is, if we're looking at teams that are probably better than their record shows, I think Jacksonville is one of those.


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[Assistant] I don't, I mean, I still don't trust Nathaniel Hackett. I don't trust Russell Wilson. This knee-high thing, like with his teammates can't, like his teammates can't, I mean, at some point, aren't you just like, dude, like,


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[Assistant] Like, you're being a cornball. Like, just stop. That's what he is. Like, the Broncos country lets ride stuff. Like, nobody, I mean, nobody had to stop doing it because it was so weird. And, you know, like, I don't know. Like, I just picture him like,


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[Assistant] Like buzzing the stewardess over and over again to like rat out Jerry Judy for not wearing a seatbelt on aisle 15 or something like that.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm like taking a principal stand on the Jaguars because I think they owe me, which is like, this is totally stupid, I get it. Uhm, I'm gonna take Jacksonville as the best bet. I, I, well, 100% regret this by, uh, 10-15 on Sunday morning. I think the experience in London helps. Uh, by the way, this game, uhm,


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[Assistant] Just as an FYI for people who are planning to watch it on Sunday morning, ESPN Plus only.


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[Assistant] First time that's ever, uh, happened in actually the history of the NFL.


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[Assistant] So if you want to watch it, just don't, you know, be prepared to if you wake up and you're planning to throw it on, you're going to have to either have a login or get it from Pete. Next game.


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[Assistant] The dolphins minus three and a half at the lions over under 51, um,


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[Assistant] Fun fact for this game, the Dolphins have not beaten the Lions since 2006, which seems impossible given how bad the Lions have been, uh, over the last few years. I think this would be a pretty heavy DFS game in terms of ownership with the Lions bad defense of that Miami explosive offense.


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[Assistant] Jared Goff, no touchdowns since the last two games, but maybe get Deandre Swift and Omron St. Brown back.


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[Assistant] Aiden Hutchinson making a very good case for defensive rookie of the year with his performance. Uh, so we're flying under the radar with the hell. Well, Saul scarters playing Pete. You see a shootout happening here.


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[Assistant] Uh, I'm, I'm gonna toss the, and you see that, the line there on Caesars, uh, Dolphins minus three and a half is minus one fifteen, so that could get up to four, uh, potentially. Wouldn't be that, wouldn't be that shocking. The Lions are, are a great football team. I think...


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[Assistant] So that they will have a tryhard, a major tryhard situation here for Dan Campbell, who looks like he's really getting beaten down. He got a vote of confidence this week.


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[Assistant] Jared Golf did too. I think it's, that's not great. So you really like, you're going to need to get some rah rah Dan Campbell stuff here to get hyped up for this game. And we have our first.


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[Assistant] That's the first one on the list! Dan Campbell Revenge Game?


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[Assistant] Okay, so we're going to take the lion's money line out of the possible revenge game parlay.


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[Assistant] We're only down to like 7 or 8 possibilities now. Uh, Lions does not qualify as revenge, even though Dan Campbell was an interim coach for the Dolphins. I'm going to put the Lions in a teaser here. Yeah, as bad as they've been the last few weeks, uhm, they are still capable, if they get swift in, in Brown back,


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[Assistant] That offense is capable of, I don't know if they keep pace with Miami. I do like the over. I think, I think there'll be enough back and forth and or the Lions can storm through the back door if they get Swift and Brown back. If they don't, I don't love the teaser. I mean, I got to take it now. So I don't really have a choice. Hopefully both those guys come back and that teaser looks good.


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[Assistant] I agree. There's probably a shootout thought about the over. I was worried if I took the over, it would be the fourth straight week that Pete and I were square on the most obvious over on the slate. So I passed on it and.


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[Assistant] Three eagles are nine and oh against the Steelers in home games in the Super Bowl era. They have only allowed 13 plays of 20 plus yards this season. Fewest in the NFL. They're first in rush touchdowns. Hurts a second in the NFL and rush touchdowns for anyone.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna take the under on this one. I think the Eagles are, if they can get a lead, they're more than willing to squat on it and sort of burn clock, especially in the second half. We've seen that where they just, you know, don't score points.


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[Assistant] Was it like week four they scored their first points in the fourth quarter? Um, and you know, we mentioned with that.


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[Assistant] Good run defense for the Steelers. Maybe it takes them a little bit longer to get going in that run game. Don't think they'll be too aggressive in trying to attack via the pass. So maybe a sort of a blue collar heavyweight battle here. I like the under 43.


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[Assistant] Patriots, minus two and a half at the Jets. Over, under.


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[Assistant] December 2nd, 2001 is the last time these two teams played where the Jets had a better record than the Pats. Uhm, I'm gonna take the Patriots as, actually wait, first I gotta ask, does this qualify for revenge?


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[Assistant] This is so weak, I'm so disappointed y'all. I thought this was a lock for revenge.


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[Assistant] Yeah, hell yeah, the Patriots are the best bet. They just got embarrassed on Monday night by the Bears at home. And now they're playing the team that Belichick likes to beat the crap out of. I love the Patriots, minus two and a half. I think they roll here. I'm curious Pete, what you think, one, about the quarterback situation.


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[Assistant] Uh, in, in New England and, uh, to how this game plays out.


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[Assistant] It's not, okay, when I say revenge, I should clarify, like I don't, it doesn't necessarily mean like I've got to get revenge on you. It's like a, you know, it's like a spike game. How about a spike game? Is that better?


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[Assistant] Okay. All right. I got, I got four or five more. We're going to get a parlay in here. I'll tell you what.


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[Assistant] Not gonna be easy, but I think I got three more, so they all need to hit. Otherwise it's this little, this little.


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[Assistant] Gambit, I had this idea of this revenge parlay is out the window in week one. Let's take a break and when we come back. This is another revenge game after the break next.


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[Assistant] Over under 49 and a half, the Raiders are 0-3 on the road this year. It's still favored third in total points. DFL in sacks tied with the Lions. They're only nine this season. Uh, Josh Jacobs.


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[Assistant] Became the third, just the third player since 2010 to have three straight 140 yard rushing games along with Derrick Henry 2019 and Adrian Peterson in 2012. A fourth straight would put him in really rare territory, joining just Earl Campbell and Otis Armstrong. The Raiders once employed Dennis Allen, the New Orleans Saints head coach, and they fired him.


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[Assistant] Revenge. This qualifies revenge.


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[Assistant] Money line is our first, it's not gonna happen, but anyway. Go ahead, what do you think about this game?


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[Assistant] In my picks column, a lot of it kind of boiled down to.


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[Assistant] What is the status of Marshall and Latimore? Cause I think that makes a huge difference with Devonte Adams in there.


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[Assistant] The Saints are banged up. The Raiders have a ton of people on the injury report as well.


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[Assistant] Uh, but the Saints have Michael Thomas who didn't practice Wednesday, Jarvis Landry.


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[Assistant] Uh, and Marshawn Lattimore, like those guys are huge for them. And this, this team, this offense isn't the same and that defense isn't going to be the same against a guy like Adams who could be an alpha receiver if they don't have Lattimore there. So I think watch that. If, if Lattimore are out, if Lattimore is out.


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[Assistant] A uh, best bet on this game would be a little nervous about my revenge play with no ladder board.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, the last four games, I mean, what 76 against the cards on that Thursday night game, 56 against the big 56 total with the Bengals 71 against the Seahawks.


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[Assistant] And, uh, 57 against the Vikings. So yeah, maybe, maybe she should just shoot out. Andy Dalton's a huge upgrade over James Winston, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] I don't care about the offensive injuries, but I do think Latimore matters on the defensive side of the ball. Oh, excuse me. Bears at the Cowboys. Cowboys minus nine and a half over under.


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[Assistant] 42.5. The Bears are running the ball 59.8% of the time, number one in the NFL. And they're the only team in the league with three 300 plus yard rushers, Montgomery Fields, Cleo Herbert, Pete.


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[Assistant] Looking like no Zeke Elliott in this game, potentially. He didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday. Is this the long awaited Tony Pollard breakout?


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, the Cowboys are my second team. I'm putting in that teaser with the Lions. So I give them down to two and a half.


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[Assistant] Where do I get them down to? Three and a half. Three and a half. I'll take them three and a half. I think it's a bad spot for the Bears. Huge emotional win over the Patriots. You go into New England and you, you, um,


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[Assistant] Uh, Dan Quinn will have stuff cooked up to take care of that. So no, three and a half, not a great teaser number. Don't care. Uh, I'll take the Cowboys and the Lions in that teaser. And again, just a bad spot for the Bears. You know, obviously if you can get it under three, that's a little bit better or whatever. Carlos at the Vikings.


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[Assistant] Vikings minus three and a half over under.


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[Assistant] 49. The Cardinals are 10 and 2 on the road since the start of 2021. Best record in the NFL Vikings 3 and 0 at home this year. Cardinals coming off the highest scoring game of the Cliff Kyler era with the Andre Hopkins back. Now, the question is Pete, is this a Patrick Peterson revenge game?