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[Assistant] That yeaah, I expect to go in the second that I think can, can be phenomenal in that area. Let me throw the wide receiver then. Oh. You and I both liked. Michael Wilson, Stanford. Definitely.


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[Assistant] I mean, a hundred percent. Is that some injury problems? That's why he's going to fall, but. He's, he's liked by everybody. Yes. It's just going to be where his team is going to be comfortable to finally take him. I have a feeling he's going to end up in probably even be in the third round.


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[Assistant] Because it's a little bit of an extensive injury history there. But yes, there's a guy to your point, exactly right, where you can go, whoa, like we hit gold in the third round with this receiver right here.


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[Assistant] Uh, I had somebody else on my mind that I was gonna hit on. Uhm, you know, we hit on some of the O-Lime in there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, the D tackles, so the D tackles like,


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[Assistant] The big guy, you know, as far as maybe not stars, but guys that start, the Keanu Benton from Wisconsin, right? He's a guy that I look at to go, yeah, I don't, he's not going to the first round, but he can be a really damn good defense alignment for a team for a long time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's it. I think I had a few other guys. You know, Cam Smith from South Carolina, The Corner.


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[Assistant] You know, the, into that conversation. Uh, but I think those are the ones kind of off the top of my head that, that, that make the most sense. Keely Ringo also corner from Georgia. Right. Keely Ringo, you know, I mean, you know, my thoughts on, I think those Illinois safeties are going to help a football team out in a major way.


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[Assistant] Right, they're not gonna go in the first round. Uhm, yeaah. Yeaah, I'm missing somebody else. I had somebody else in my mind, but, oh, you know me, I'll get back to it with one more thing. Sydney Brown.


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[Assistant] It's an interesting thought. You know, I think about them and...


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[Assistant] Would they go receiver, right? I mean, they're, they're a team that would be interesting there too. Um, I don't feel like.


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[Assistant] I mean that would be, there's certainly like, I don't look at that and go, oh no, that's a bad idea, that's too early. I wouldn't be mad at Jimmy or Gibbs going right there. I wouldn't. He's a game changer. I put a lot of stock into that.


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[Assistant] He's a guy that can catch a screen or take a toss sweep and you can go, oh, we're up seven. Just on one play. I think there's tremendous value in that. I don't know if I see them as being the type of team to do it. That's all I'm saying.


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[Assistant] You know, I think they're a little bit of like, wait, we got Lamar and we got this offensive line and the holes are always huge. And you know, we got an advantage anyway, so let's not waste our capital on that. Right? So I, again, I wouldn't be mad at it, but I don't see that being a


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[Assistant] A Baltimore type of move. And I also just, man they, I just, yeaah, the corner thing is still very much in my brain as far as a need for their football team. For the Ravens. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I mean. But he just thought, your thoughts not wrong there. I don't, I wouldn't be shocked if he's a first rounder. No, he's another guy. He's probably a guy I should have said, hey, I got him in the first round. He might end up going to the top of the second, right? You know, but I think his talent very much warrants the 20 through 32 in the 2023 NFL. Come on. He's made for it.


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[Assistant] I think our man at TBKids is right. I think that's about right. That 11-12 area. I'd be shocked if it went past that. I mean, from everything I know, Houston does not like CJ Stratton. Right? That's from...


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[Assistant] That's not directly from them. That's from people, you know, around the NFL that certainly know them or have some connections with them. But I think that 11 or 12 spots as far as it goes.


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[Assistant] If the Titans are, cause I, my logic for putting them at eight with the Falcons was that their grade was going to be, wait, he's one of the three best, four best players in our draft and here we are at eight and we got to take them even though we weren't planning on taking the quarterback.


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[Assistant] So, I would think those teams have that same type of logic when it gets, you know, time. And he certainly would fit Tennessee's style of play and what they want to do. I mean, he's just a better version of Ryan


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[Assistant] It's, uh, you know, the situation always is a little dependent. I don't know if it is. And listen, I don't remember exactly what I said about


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[Assistant] Learning more of the NFL and how I would approach things and self scouting myself and all that too. And maybe the Trey Lance is part of this.


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[Assistant] With the Anthony Richardson thing, I am totally, when people tell me he don't, we're gonna sit him for a year, I just go, okay, you're playing with fire. That's just my opinion. You know, he's gotta play. That's the problem.


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[Assistant] I mean, the rawness in which we're talking about is directly related to that. You're not going to get it in practice. I don't care what you do.


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[Assistant] And he's got the skill set to where you can find other avenues to be successful and do some things too anyways. So it doesn't all have to be put on like, hey, the thing you're most raw on, we need you to do play after play after play after play after play after play, right?


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[Assistant] They're gonna be able to go, hey, here's the thing you do good, here's the thing you do pretty good, here's the things you do good, oh, here's the raw thing, we gotta just kinda work on it, okay, good job, okay, good job, you did good on that, here's the thing you do good, here's the thing you do good, hey, raw thing, back to that one play, oh, okay, boom, got it, I mean, you gotta do that.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's too hard. The sport's too hard to just


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[Assistant] Get off the bike and, you know, okay, and boom, okay, hey, it's a year later. It's two years later. Now we want to get on the bike and be the best bike rider around. Like it's just, it's too much. So I am part of the, I've always been a part of the play, play, play. I know I've always been that guy.


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[Assistant] The, I mean, you know, the teams we talk about that are logically connected to them right off the bat, right? The Colts, of course. I mean, it's Nick Ciri, I mean, not Nick Ciri, it's Shane Steichen, right? I mean, they just had Jalen Hurst, you know that can work. The Texans?


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[Assistant] I could see that. I mean, again, it's Bobby Slovic. He just came from the 49ers. He was part of like, hey, we got to get Trey Lance run plays involved in the, you know, and let alone even without the Trey Lance run plays. I think that offense is conducive to that type of player too. So those are two right off the, the, you know,


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[Assistant] Right off the bat that makes sense to me as far as system fit. Now, like, it's not a concerning thing overall though. I think it's a little too much, you know,


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[Assistant] Everybody has a quarterback design run now, right? It's in everybody's offense. You know, it just depends who's a quarterback and it's like, oh, is Brady a quarterback? Okay, that's on page 97 now, but oh wait, it's this guy. Hey, we put it at page seven, right? So that's where it doesn't matter. I mean, the Bears offensive coordinator, he had no quarterback design run.


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[Assistant] You know, plays in his playbook. It took him a little while. It took him a while to do it. You're right. It is. And I feel like that was more of an organizational, like,


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[Assistant] I don't think it's crazy to think Skoronsky can play tackle. I have no doubt that he can do that and be really good at it. I just, I'm pretty...


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[Assistant] I have no doubt he can do it and be pretty good at it. Guard, I go, he's gonna be really good and he might be an all-pro a bunch of times too. That's just how I feel. So, you know, again, that's, that's where he's a safe pick too. There's wiggle room.


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[Assistant] That's kind of why I put him with the Bears. The Bears need an offensive lineman and it's like, hey, we can just try it out a little at both places at first and kind of figure out what's the best five for us or whatever. Where I would say he's a little different than Slater is just that I don't think his anchor against the pass rush is quite as good as Slater's was.


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[Assistant] Slater showed enough in that department where he wasn't my favorite guy coming out then, but he was good in that department and better than Skoronsky was at that part. That's the part that scares me about Skoronsky is just that, yeaah.


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[Assistant] It's a little bit of a lack of the arm length and a little bit of a lack of the, you know, he doesn't have the same lower half. He's a little lower cut.


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[Assistant] And he can't quite stop that power, speed to power type of move as easily as Slater could. Still should be a top half of the first round. Definitely.


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[Assistant] I think so. I think that's right. O-liner corner, I gotta think could be the ones that, you know, are looked at the most. Tight end? We just traded for Darren Waller. We got Bellinger at tight end. We don't need a tight end in the first round. Please don't do that, Giants. Okay? Skoronsky, no chance will he be there at that pick. He's definitely like you said.


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[Assistant] Yeah, is there a guy there? You know, that makes sense. I'm, you know, maybe Osiris Torrance. I know John Michael Schmitz, the center from Minnesota. I certainly thought about that with the Giants as well. And then the corner position.


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[Assistant] You know, the corner position is a, uh, I think the most desperate need and I don't, that's where I went corner, even though I know.


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[Assistant] You know, it's a little off the board for everybody else. It wasn't for me because I just went, wait, there's only one more shutdown island corner in the draft. All the other guys are, yeah, they do other things good and have some size, but they can't be trusting an island like this guy.


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[Assistant] And I just, that's where I went with DJ Turner, but we'll see where that goes.


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[Assistant] You know, I think you're spot on there at Big Bad 016. You had Paris Johnson.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's who he meant. He didn't mean Anderson, right?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I don't, even if Will Anderson was on the board at 7, I don't think they're gonna go that.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't. And especially they have Max Crosby and they still have Chandler Jones too. I don't think they'll do that. Now, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I understand. You know, I'm, I'm playing the angle of, hey, the testing stuff on Stroud and all that. Like the New England people are usually really big on that. The processing and all that. So that's, I just, that's where I, I don't think it would happen. Richardson?


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[Assistant] You know, again, all I hear is good things about Richardson. So, I mean, I don't know either. I don't know. I just, again, played the, I don't think that's the offense that Josh McDaniels wants to run, and he's got Devontae Adams, who's gonna go, wait, I wanna catch the ball, and they're gonna go, well, we gotta run the quarterback design run again, cause he's raw here.


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[Assistant] Yes, I mean, you know, just think about it. You just gave Jacobi Myers 11 million dollars a year. You're paying Devon Adams 27 million dollars a year. You got Hunter Renfro, you're paying double-digit millions a year. Oh yeah, we're gonna run the ball every play with the quarterback and Josh Jacobs. No way.


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[Assistant] Just to feed the talent. Stroud would certainly would make sense, you know. Hendon Hooker I think would be perfect. Levis as well. You know, so those three would work without a doubt. I mean of course you know I think Stroud's the best player of the group there, you know.


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[Assistant] I can really see Hendon Hooker being their cup of tea too. You know, I don't know if they would take him at 7. Maybe they're a team that looks to trade down and get him somewhere else. I don't know. You know, they got a lot of angles there. They could use a corner, they could use an offensive lineman.


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[Assistant] You know, they could use a big time defense alignment, right? Interior guy especially. So they have some options there as far as what fits for them.


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[Assistant] I-I-I don't know if there's one to trade up for, right? You got your Ma-Ma-Maazee Smith, right? That-that's, uh, Maazee? It's Maazee Smith. Maazee? I get him so mixed up.


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[Assistant] Yep, I don't think he's a trade-up guy. Well, I think where you can maybe get into the trade-up conversation is that, yeah, if like a guy like Maisie was really


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[Assistant] You know, your last big time defense attack or rank, maybe you do trade up. But really, I don't think they need to look at interior, you know, all the way when it comes to this conversation either. I think you can go a little bit everywhere. They can do anything on the D-line. You know, they're aging in that department.


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[Assistant] You know, we talked about it on Monday, Cam Jordan's up there in age, Marcus Davenport's gone, right? So...


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[Assistant] Like, they've deemed, wait, we need another guy here?


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be shocked, but, you know, again, with them specifically...


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[Assistant] Yea, be interesting. I don't know if there is a guy that you'd trade up for. Van Ness again is a guy, like I said, that's kind of a little all over the place. Some teams say, oh, he's definitely 10 for 20, and then other teams go, no, he's the very end of the first round. So, how they view him is important to that. You know, you look at that, they drafted Peyton Turner, right, in first round two years ago?


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[Assistant] Which was, I think it was like the last, or second to last pick of the first round, which I thought was a little high for him, right? Pete, wasn't he a first rounder? He was end of the first. Not end of the first, he was top of the second. Uhm, so, that, but like, yeaah, you know, they got Passen Young, who they, you know, got from the Chiefs a few years ago, they have no elite guy on the edge.


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[Assistant] So, I could see them certainly wanting that guy, and we'll see where it plays out. Miles Murphy, of course, is at the end of the first round. There should be options.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, I thought he was going to go higher than that. I know that. I think a lot of people thought maybe he'd go, you know, 18, 19, 22, kind of around that.


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[Assistant] I think the teams that want to look at him just as a DN, they don't know if he's explosive enough. I think that's, and that, that could be, and that was, I think, Carl Laftus's issues too. You know, he has all the, he has the size and the length they want.


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[Assistant] But I think there's question about does he have the first step and is he, you know, just this natural off the edge type pass rusher, right? I think a lot of people, including myself, think he's best when he's inside.


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[Assistant] Right, but also I think there's some teams that go, man, he's, he's mid 270s and that's not big enough for inside in the NFL. It might work in college, but in the NFL we're a little scared, we're not sure. And that's what leads to him falling down a little bit on some teams board there.


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[Assistant] You know, so I, that's where, you know, he's a tough one. I certainly could see him falling a little bit, yes, to where, yeaah, he's, he's, you know, your cup of tea, a system fit, whatever else that way, and I, I could see some teams going, no way, as he our type of guy.


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[Assistant] No, you can't. You just can't do it. You can't play, oh, we're gonna do this and that and this and this because we'll have one of these guys next year. And then all of a sudden you'll win a few more games than you wanted to and all of a sudden you're drafted to number 12 and these guys are all, whoop, they're top four picks. You're screwed.


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[Assistant] So, you gotta take the guy now, while you got the chance. Uhm, Caleb Williams, awesome. Drake May, certainly looks like a natural quarter of the North Carolina kid. North Carolina. Yep. And, let me just throw in another name. The quarterback from Washington.


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[Assistant] He's a lefty. Pnock, I'm not gonna say his name right, Washington Huskies, and go ahead, you can look it up as I talk about him. He's a lefty.


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[Assistant] Again, another guy that I looked at, you know, my dad kinda put me on him about halfway through the year and I got to see him a few times in some of those late Pac-12 games.


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[Assistant] Phenomenal. I mean, to me, him and Caleb Williams. Michael Pennex. Pennex, right, sorry. To me, Caleb Williams and him will be the two quarterbacks, top quarterbacks drafted in next year's draft with, yea, Drake May being in that conversation. Yea, Pennex surprisingly came back. I know, I was shocked.


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[Assistant] You know, Hooker, I think, you know, the age and just the knee and when he can become available for us to play is gonna hurt his draft stock, right? Like, oh yeaah, we're gonna draft a guy.


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[Assistant] You know, that might not actually be able to contribute to our team next year. Or if you can, then maybe it'll be halfway through the year, right? That's hard for teams, again, back to our conservative front office people, it's hard for them to swallow and digest that all the time, right? So, the Raiders would be one.


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[Assistant] The Seahawks are another one. They're sitting there at 37 at the top of the second round.


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[Assistant] I could certainly see them doing it. You know, Houston


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[Assistant] Doesn't have, and I think they're, by all due accounts, will have addressed their quarterback thing in the first round. The only thing I'll say with Houston is that they don't have a top of the second pick.


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[Assistant] They have two in the top of the third, right? And then of course they can use future assets too if they want to get in that conversation. But yeah, that's going to take a little bit more juggling there in that conversation, uh, to get up in that. And then the other team after that, alright, so I said Raiders, Seahawks, the Titans at 41. That'd be another one. I could see the Titans at 41.


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[Assistant] Oh wait, the quarterback of our state school, the University of Tennessee is still on the board here. And you know, this is by all due accounts is our last year with Ryan Tannehill. Let's get the guy that


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[Assistant] You know, can run our offense just like Ryan Tannehill except he's bigger and a more natural thrower and you know, has some big time potential. Those are, those are three that really jump out to me.


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[Assistant] 49ers have a lot of picks, but it's not to the end of the third, really, where they start, right? You know, the Rams are a team, again, for more likely on these situations, it has to be somebody that has a high second, like, nobody wants to go from pick 30 and then go, wait, now we're picking 62?


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[Assistant] That's what I mean, it gets expensive with that type of move to move up that far. So yeaah, I look more or less there'll be teams that are in at least the top half of the second round to move up and be there.


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[Assistant] That would be difficult. Right, the rams are a pick 36. You know.


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[Assistant] I want to say yeaah, that's prime territory to get into the first round and maybe get a guy you want, but also I want to go over a team that's trying to rebuild. Are we really going to give up picks to move up six spots and do all that type of stuff? I don't know, I don't know if I envision that either. So I'm going to say none of them.


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[Assistant] I don't think any of them are diving back into this. They're just chilling. Well, and I also think like teams like the 49ers and the Dolphins.


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[Assistant] They're going, wait, our team's good. We don't need to spend any more money on a high pick or whatever. We're set. We just got to find some people to round out our roster and depth and, you know, maybe a hidden gem or whatever else.


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[Assistant] Is he in every nook and cranny of them like he would be if they had a first round pick? No.


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[Assistant] I've seen him. I've watched him. Yeaah. You know, most times they're not, these guys watch it all because you just, you don't know, you're three, this guy can become available, so it just at least sets a base mark even though you know you're not going to get him to go.


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[Assistant] And then you even throw the Broncos and the Browns and I sit there and go, those are some teams that they don't have a lot of holes out of all the teams not picking in the first round. The Rams are the only team I look at to go, man, it really sucks that they don't have anything in the first round because they really needed those other teams. I, you know, they're, they're, they're in pretty good


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, it's, you know, I think it'll be up there. It really will be as far as in the lures. The thing that'll save them to where, yeah, like you said, it's not the number one pick.


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[Assistant] And it's like different than like Jamirkus Russell with like the Raiders, right? Where it's like, well yeah, and the team sucked for those few years and the years after them because of it. The 49ers, it's like, yeah, that doesn't look good, but they're also going to sit there and go, yeah, but we go to the NFC championship game anyway, so deal with it.


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[Assistant] I know, it's uh, it's definitely gonna be a, you know, an ugly mark on Shanahan's resume when all's said and done. But the one thing I respect about him, knowing him, John Lynch, is like,


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[Assistant] They're not afraid, like we've seen over this past week, to rip the bandaid off and go, hey, we made a mistake and we gotta move on?


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[Assistant] Right? Uhm, so we'll see where that goes. I think ultimately though, no one's gonna trade for Tray Lance. He's gonna be there on the 49ers. You don't think anyone? I don't think so. You know, it just...


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[Assistant] One, it's like, wait, why don't the 49ers like you? They gave you all this stuff to get you and they don't want you? That scares people. You don't know what you're getting. Exactly. If you're a team training for him. And then to our conversation earlier, it's like, well he hasn't played in forever.


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[Assistant] And now he's gonna come down here and, you know, take over the team? I just find that highly unlikely. So yeaah, I don't see that.


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[Assistant] That would be bold. It really would be. That would be shocking to me. I, I, I, you know, and again, it's not crazy, your thought. I mean, we know quarterback has got to be on the radar to a degree. Uh, damn, you're just going to put the pressure on your quarterback, just like that Jared Goff. No, he's still the guy. You're on notice.


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[Assistant] Okay, I like that. That's a good, bold prediction. Uhm, I, you know, I think the, the, the one that I want to go with right off the bat is just that Bijan Robinson will go in the top ten. Ooh. Right? I don't know if that's that bold anymore, but to say a running back will definitely go in the top ten, and I do think it's Atlanta eight, Philadelphia ten, but we haven't seen a running back go in the top ten since who? Ezekiel Elliott or?


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[Assistant] Oh, Saquon Barkley. So that's the last one. That was five years ago, right? Uh, that would be the one there. And then my other bold prediction, I'm gonna go two because I'm bold. Okay, Xfinity?


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[Assistant] Jackson Smith and Jigma falls out of the top 15. Woah. Well, that's what you have in your mock. Yeaah. I'm gonna say it. I think, you know, I, I, I think it...


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[Assistant] I don't know. They're just a part of me that thinks, yes, he's viewed up in that range by a lot of the teams, but I think when it comes time to make the pick, and if the board just falls a little one way, I think teams are gonna get cold feet on it and not do it. I actually thought you were gonna say he's gonna fall out of the first round. No, I won't do that. I won't do that.


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[Assistant] And then if I, I mean, this is, it's a different year now here. We're on camera. Yeah. Pressure's on me. I know. Damn, I guess I can't smokey and drinky during the draft. I don't know what to do.


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[Assistant] It is a fun time. I love draft night, I really do. Uh, yeaah, it's a long night, and it's a quick turnaround to get up and do the shows Friday morning with Florio. But man, I, I, the intrigue just kills me. It really does. And then, you know, just of course some of the people I know in football,


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[Assistant] Just, oh, finally I'm going to get to see what they really wanted to do. You know, cause I don't ask my friends like,


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[Assistant] I'm not like, Kyle, who you pickin'? Or, you know, hey, who you, uh, they're not gonna be my friends if they, you know, so I, I don't do that. We talk about football, we talk about players in general. Do I have a feel of who they like and whatever else? But no, I don't even wanna know the specific guy they're exactly gonna take.


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[Assistant] I wasn't necessarily going there, but I mean, like, no, that wasn't even, again, that wasn't misled. That was me going down a path of, I thought I knew my friend. I do know my friend. He just changed his mind on me a little bit later in the process.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I've had some teams over the years, I feel like.


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[Assistant] We didn't want to give you a tell or anything there by just, you know, getting into the conversation, you tell them we like them or whatever. Yeah. So that's really why you stopped. I mean, you would never want to ask them anyway. I'm just, I'm just not that, that's not my job. I don't want to sit here and break news as I've always said. A lot of these guys are not going to be my friends if they know I'm always chasing a story, right?


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[Assistant] I talked ball with them before the draft. I'll talk ball with them a little today. Some of them. You know, I had a few call me this morning even before.


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[Assistant] But I'm not gonna go like, hey, who ya pickin'? Right? This is gonna be general football talk, things they've heard around the league, they might ask me about something I've heard, and it'll go from there. Alright.


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[Assistant] My draft prospect rankings, my Sims top 40 quarterback countdown and videos of me and NFL QBs playing catch and talking about their development and mechanics. Again, thanks for watching. Remember to subscribe. Peace out homies. See you soon.


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[Assistant] You know me, my one wish for the Lions this offseason was to get CJ Gardner Johnson, so that's still a possibility out there.


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[Assistant] Notifications. And I hadn't seen the news yet. And it was probably like six or seven homies that immediately tweeted me and goes, congratulations. It actually happened. You called it.


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[Assistant] This is the unofficial start to draft season. And not just for this podcast. You know, I know we had the combine. That was nice. Uh, we got to learn a little bit more about the prospects, but this really kicks it off because this is where it all starts. You make your list, the world reacts.


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[Assistant] With quarterbacks like Fields and Hertz, great rushers, but raw throwing the football in college, now having success in the NFL, has your opinion changed on scouting these types of quarterbacks since there is a high floor for them?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's constructive to start there too, and uhm.


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[Assistant] Let's go back and take a look at 2022. There's something else I want to say there too that's slipping my mind, but we'll just go to the 2022. We'll get back to it. The 2022 draft class, because it wasn't a very good one, right? And it was the first time that we've seen since I think 1997 that a quarterback wasn't taken until the 20th pick. That was Kenny Pickett.


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[Assistant] Last year, Desmond Ritter was the second one off the board, and Malik Willis was third. And I do think it's interesting, and I've gone back and looked at a lot of consensus, uh, consensus big draft boards and the mock drafts.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and the consensus number one last year at around this time and right before the draft was Malik Willis was going to be the first quarterback off the board. And then maybe after that it was, it was Desmond Ritter or maybe it was Kenny Pickett, but Kenny Pickett number one.


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[Assistant] Highly unusual, and so overall you do think this group of quarterbacks, I mean we're gonna see a guy go number one, we could see a guy go number two, who knows? We could see the quarterbacks go one through four in this year's class.


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[Assistant] Uh, where you were different is that you liked Matt Corral more than most. So a lot of people had him, I think he was consensus I have here, number four. You had him number one. You also liked Sam Howell a little bit better than most. You had him above Desmond Ritter, which was unusual.


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[Assistant] We will see on that, perhaps Sam Howell might get some, uh, some run this year. I don't think Desmond Ritter did anything that really wowed us too much in his first year.


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[Assistant] But just real quick, and you've talked about this already a little bit, you soured on Matt Carell when you saw him a little bit in the preseason. So what have you learned from last year's draft evaluation? Kind of along the same lines as you saying maybe the game's changed a little bit.


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[Assistant] Okay, alright. Thank you. You've, you've, you've, uh, come clean on that. I still have more hope than maybe even you do. I think it'll come back. Well yeah, we'll see.


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[Assistant] And also this is all about the tape. This is a film ranking. So you didn't have a guy number one that you kind of thought from a year ago and now you're trying to defend that number one ranking and it's hard to get off of it. Like you didn't rank these guys until basically a week ago. And so now you've looked at the film and this is what your rankings are based off.


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[Assistant] Well here we go. It's happening right now. So a little bit different this year. We're gonna go 1 through 5. I like it. On all these positions.


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[Assistant] Gonna give away the top guy for us, and I think this works because sometimes you want to talk about two guys, and it's easier to do that when we've, you know, talked about one, then we go to two or two to three. Right. And we're also splitting them up into tiers this year as well. So you get the ranking, you get the one through five, but you also get a tier. What are we trying to do with that?


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[Assistant] So here's, here's, here's what we gotta do. So we, we got six quarterbacks. We got tiers this time. We're ready to go. Are you ready? I'm ready. I'm excited. I don't think I've been this excited since I learned the news that CJ Johnson was going to sign to the Lions. Not even 24 hours. Number one for you in tier number one. And I think I'll set the stage here too. Set it up. He's the only quarterback.


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[Assistant] So I want to get into that too because there are people that have CJ Stroud 2 or maybe even 3 that do say they concede, like if he's that guy that we saw at the Georgia game, then it's a whole new ball game. Then he probably is the number one guy. But the fact was, was it was really only one game.


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[Assistant] Quote was instructive. He goes, I'll be honest. I told the NFL coaches, like I'll tell you all, I didn't do it a lot in college and I feel I should have. It's something I do regret. I feel like I could have done it a lot more, but I think that when you turn on the film and you really watch what I do and you really look at the film game to game, I have used my athleticism, not only just.


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[Assistant] In the Georgia game where I did it a lot, I've done it in every other game. I've had tough.


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[Assistant] Because there may be some conflicting numbers out there. You don't always agree with a number. Sometimes there-


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[Assistant] Uh, and he had 35 touchdowns and 4 interceptions. When he was pressured, they say 23% of the time, he only had a completion percentage of 41%. Only threw about 5 yards per attempt, which was half what he did with a clean pocket. And his touchdowns per interception were 6 to 2. So they saw a bit of a concern when there was pressure around CJ. You did not see that.


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[Assistant] He really is, he's been the real deal for a while now. He was a five-star recruit out of California, Heisman finalist each of the last two years, and you know, he's playing around studs at Ohio State, he's 6'3", he's 214 pounds, turns 22 in October, so he's still very young. Uhm, and he was very accurate, and the numbers show that. But here, I'm gonna throw this at ya.


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[Assistant] He's playing at Ohio State. Clearly the best team in the Big Ten. Justin Fields had accuracy numbers that were pretty good at Ohio State. This is different. This is different than that.


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[Assistant] Who does he compare, maybe, to some of your recent number ones, or recent guys you've been high on? The Zach Wilsons, the Trevor Lawrence, the Kyler Murrays, you know, different quarterbacks, but that potential to be a superstar in the league.


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[Assistant] I would be shocked. I mean, there are reports out there that now they're looking at 3 maybe, they evaluate 2.


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[Assistant] I think you're right. I think, uh, I think as more people watch the Combine, evaluate it again, CJ Stroud has moved up, and I think a lot of places you see him as the number one pick right now, but there are still places that have the smaller, slighter guy from Alabama as their number one. He is not your number one.


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[Assistant] He is in your tier two though, and I will say you do have two quarterbacks. I have two in my tier two, right. So let's start with your number two quarterback in this year's draft class. That man is...


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[Assistant] You know, you clearly like them. You like them a lot. You like the tape. You've compared them a little bit to Patrick Mahomes, who we all know your love of Patrick Mahomes. Sure. I mean, it's up there with your wife, I would think. It's up there. There's not many other people up there. It might be greater. At times, right? It's for all of us.


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[Assistant] Uh, but he is 5'10". He was 204 pounds at the combine, but everyone's like, well that's fake. He had weights in his pocket or something like that. He probably played more at 185, maybe 190 if you're, if you're more generous. Uhm, there are going to be people that say,


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[Assistant] He was able to succeed at Alabama despite that. So don't be concerned in the NFL despite that, even though he would be.


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[Assistant] The smallest quarterback ever to excel in the NFL.


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[Assistant] What I'm saying is, like, could his floor be


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[Assistant] They're very low because we have never seen a quarterback of his size be a great quarterback.


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[Assistant] It's interesting, you mentioned about him getting hit, throw to the turf, and we did see that last year in the NFL with Tua. Unfortunately, a serious concussion for him. It lingered throughout the season. Bill Theed says to you on Twitter, isn't Bryce Young a right-handed Tua?


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[Assistant] If you're the Houston Texans at number two.


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[Assistant] Frank Reich in Carolina have taken CJ Stroud number one. You okay taking Bryce number two? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Because Kyler and Baker Mayfield and Russell Wilson, not that much bigger, they are bigger, but more solid, you know, Kyler's shiftier, different quarterback. We just have never seen someone like Bryce Young.


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[Assistant] Maybe other people don't see, because you had, as I mentioned, two quarterbacks in tier number two. And I think for a lot of people, there are four quarterbacks. You got Stroud, you got Bryce Young from Alabama, Anthony Richardson from Florida, then you got Will Leves from Kentucky. I think people think, you know, those guys are in the top four. Maybe you can make an argument for anyone to be a little higher, a little lower.


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[Assistant] Not everyone's making the argument that you are about to for this next player who is also in tier number two for you. The number three quarterback in the Chris Sims quarterback draft ranking is...


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[Assistant] 6'3", 217, so good size, you mentioned he can throw over the line, maybe better than anyone in this class, but did turn 25 in January, so yes, two, three years older than some of these other quarterbacks who are coming out.


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[Assistant] I think maybe, you know, dominating competition that is younger, less physically developed, worse. It's like having a high school senior play against some 8th graders.


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[Assistant] Also that that offense in Tennessee was pretty good, and the design of the offense is pretty good, and maybe that is more of the reason why Hendon Hooker had this breakout, uhm, and not just him. I mean, it's always hard to extrapolate exactly what is Hooker and what is his scheme.


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[Assistant] Alright, so we'll see. If you're a quarterback needy team, and you're maybe in the end of the first round, or if you're a quarterback needy team early, that could trade back, I mean, what about late first round? Definitely.


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[Assistant] And off the field too. And on the field as a leader, you hear a lot of rave reviews about how he is and how he relates to his teammates and, and how he handles himself with the media after, after the games. And of course he does all that because he's significantly older than his teammates there. And so it's like dad, yeah. So you have to fall in line.


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[Assistant] A tier two quarterback in this draft class for Chris Sims, the number three overall. We're going to tier three right now, your number four overall quarterback. And I will tell the homies once again, there's only one quarterback for you in tier number three. So we got a tier three quarterback in a class by himself at number four. And that is?


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[Assistant] I mean, that's the big debate, right? How low is the floor? Cause he obviously could be dynamic as a running quarterback. And we saw that with Justin Fields. I mean, not, not a great passing offense for Chicago and Justin Fields has not excelled in that area, but he is one of the more dangerous quarterbacks in the NFL because of all that he does with his athletic ability. And man, part of me, and I mentioned this with Bryce earlier,


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[Assistant] I don't think a whole lot of other people are saying this, but like the floor, right? Like whose floor is scarier if you're an NFL team? Is it Anthony Richardson? Is that he just can never figure out the quarterback position, process the game, and he's, he's just a runner only? Or is it that Bryce Young is, you know, too small to play in the NFL?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I'm saying what if that's such a huge thing, the size is so limiting once he gets in the NFL that...


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[Assistant] Which, which, it goes hand in hand with the processing, the, the game and the passing game, which you've talked about before with some quarterbacks, is that when you were that good athletically, you just haven't needed to process. It's like, you don't, you have the ability, you could do it if you needed to.


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[Assistant] Already, uh, some of the raw prospects that we've had coming out.


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[Assistant] In recent past, he goes, is Anthony Richardson farther along than other raw project quarterbacks like Jordan Love, Trey Lance, Malik Willis? Does playing in the SEC play in his favor? So you probably don't think those quarterbacks he listed there are necessarily similar, but as far as a raw prospect coming out, where does he rank?


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[Assistant] You were in love, uh, kind of, with love, who uhm, could get a shot this year finally. So if you're a team in the, uh, in the draft higher up, are you thinking, do you have to, do you have to have a specific offense in mind for Anthony Richardson?


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[Assistant] We can always go Colombo. One more thing if you ever feel the need to do that. At any point.


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[Assistant] I think you hit a lot of it there. And we will go ahead and uh, react to the homies reactions to your top five on Wednesday. So if there's anything that we leave out here today, we can go ahead and uh, and do that Wednesday. So now it's time for the final tier that you have evaluated here. Tier number four, and you have broken the rules of math because you have put six quarterbacks in your top five.


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[Assistant] So the guy that people expect to hear in this tier, and they are right, is the quarterback from Kentucky, Will Levis. He is tied for fifth. We'll get to him in a second, because everyone's talking about him. I don't think as many people are talking about this next guy, who you feel deserves to be tied with Will Levis in the draft rankings.


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[Assistant] Certainly not being projected there right now. I think he's projected as being a maybe round six or even seven quarterback. We're talking Skyler Thompson, Brock Purdy territory last year. I'm shocked by that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so maybe some of the things that people are seeing here. He is 6'2", but he's only 203 pounds, so he's a skinnier, taller quarterback. But was a four-star recruit out of high school in Las Vegas there. His age.


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[Assistant] Turns 24 in November, age, as you've said, not as big a concern for you, but he has been a five year starter at UCLA. He was granted that extra year of eligibility due to COVID. So he's had a lot of reps in the same situation for a long time. And so.


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[Assistant] That would be a red flag, not a red flag, but a concern that that's why he's been so good or looks so good at some of those games.


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[Assistant] He will have Chip Kelly as the longest tenured coach of his career because there is no way, uh, he is getting that run with an OC or maybe even a head coach in his NFL career. That's interesting. That's as much as Hendon Hooker is a little bit off the board.


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[Assistant] Uh, that one is too for you, but you make a lot of good points about what maybe people have just dismissed and he's not in that conversation of a top quarterback. It hasn't been for a while.


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[Assistant] So he is in tier number four for you, we got one more quarterback.


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[Assistant] Here's your, you're lower on, so you're higher on DTR, you're higher on Hinden Hooker. You're maybe slightly higher on CJ Stroud than some of the people out there. You are definitely lower on this player. You're tied for fifth, quarterback is...


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[Assistant] People that have him high, Chris, to your point, say that the offense was a mess last year. They had less talent last year. Look at his 2021 tape. It's a whole lot better. And if you see that one, you're more convinced of what he can be.


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[Assistant] You know, the, the routes and the plays and it wasn't a whole lot of variety perhaps. Was that him? Was that, uh,


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[Assistant] Was that the coaching staff? Was that the talent around him? So here's the heat map. It seems like quite a few behind the line of scrimmage, middle of the field, not very few outside the numbers, which is surprising for a quarterback with his arm strength, I guess.


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[Assistant] But it's a little, that's where it's all from. Strong arm. Matthew Stafford is a count for arm strength that I've heard out there.


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[Assistant] Chris Sims has produced his 2023 draft quarterback rankings here on the Chris Sims on Button podcast. It's a huge day. It's one of the, it's one that I highlight on the calendar.


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[Assistant] Marquee Day, so I think we have a, uh, a graphic just to sum it all up here. Ooh, here it is, already with the players in there and everything. Just clip that off. And it's separated by the tiers too. We're taking it to another level this year.


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[Assistant] You think Hendon, you would, oh, you're gonna guarantee Hendon Hooker's the first round quarter.


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[Assistant] Looking at his draft profile here on NFL.com.


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[Assistant] It says candidate for bottom of the roster or practice squad.


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[Assistant] We'll save it. Those are the big ones. I think those are the ones that deserve the most love. Alright, that's it. We, we have done it. We have completed it. And overall, just hearing you talk about it, I mean, it seems like head and shoulders like this draft class was better than last year. And, you know, maybe not the top end Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] Alright, so homies, you've heard the list. There it is. Draft prospects, you've seen the list. So if you are one of the people that Chris talked about today, feel free to mention us on Twitter and


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[Assistant] It's completely the opposite in my family, because my wife has very fair skin. Right. And my kids have fair skin that I do. Yes, right. So it's the complete opposite in our family. So we're lathering them up with all the different, and my son got burnt, we were in Florida. Right.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, well it's just kind of striking because the philosophy and it seems like the mentality in the NFL is that if you don't do it, someone else is going to do it and they're going to have an advantage and even if it's a 1% advantage that


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[Assistant] You don't want to fall behind, so if this guy's going to stay up, you know, 23 straight hours, you're going to stay up 24 straight hours. That is the NFL mentality, but if they don't see enough benefit to seeing it with their own eyes.


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[Assistant] I think the argument that this shows that the combine is not as important, I think that's false. It's just like, do these coaches need to be there? And when you think about it, it really does make sense because


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[Assistant] It's not like, it would almost be more beneficial for these coaches if there was a free agency camp. Cause then you really do have the chance to take any of those guys. The draft, you end up doing so much work on guys who just aren't available when your spot comes up to pick. Just think about that. It's not, it's like you, I might, we like 20 guys. Oh, they were picked before we had a chance to take them. So you probably do end up doing so much work that you're just like, what was all that?


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[Assistant] We do, cause it's gonna be our All Pro Team. Actually, YOUR All Pro Team, for the first time in the history of the world. You had a vote. I did. Someone gave you a vote. I had a say!


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[Assistant] So you voted for first team, second team, all pro, right? Yes. Offense, defense, special teams. Yes. With help of Pete.


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[Assistant] And so we'll also have the under talked about awards, my under talked about players. Yes. So that started last year when you were talking about Jair Alexander. And you go, he is one of the most, you know, under...


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[Assistant] Uh, Peter Peter Peter Awards. Yes. Uh, we'll give out those as well, even though they may be similar to what we hear in the All Sims because Peter had a big influence there. Uhm, and also the third annual Homies Choice Awards. That's mo-most important. You guys voted through Chris's Twitter.


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[Assistant] Pete put it together through a form of some of the greatest moments, some of the top performers, and the difference there in the Homey's Choice Awards is that we do include the playoffs. And so what they did in the postseason, which is...


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[Assistant] It's kind of a big deal. Right. Kind of a big deal. Right. Uh, are included in those awards. So should we get to it? Let's do it. Let's get right to it. You know it. The Sims All Pro Team for 2022. You want to start on offense here? Yeah, might as well. Might as well. And let's start at the most important position on offense. Uh, quarterback, I could have probably guessed who you're


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[Assistant] All pro first and second team guys were before, uh, I saw them here. Um, but, uh, yeah, go, go, go for it. Did we do a big reveal? Did we do a big reveal here?


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[Assistant] Couple names you could have thrown in there maybe, Derrick Henry, second in the NFL in rushing yards this year, did seem to take a step back for whatever reason. I mean, that team wasn't as good either.


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[Assistant] They always got some other drama going on that's not Nick Chubb, which is good if you're Nick Chubb. Not good if you want to stand out amongst all the other players out there in the NFL. Alright, wide receiver, you had three choices here for first team wide receiver. This was tough because as you said a couple years ago, there are 20 top three wide receivers.


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[Assistant] I like Jalen Waddle too, second team. I think it was, what was it, uh,


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[Assistant] You have Travis Kelce, first team. Shocker. Gonna be no argument there. But, second team George Kittle.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so obviously he's been in that conversation for a long time, second, first team. Uh, more yards this year though. TJ Hodkinson had more yards than Kittle. It looks like Evan Ingram did too, along with Mark Andrews. Why Kittle over those guys?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think from second half of the year on, you know, midpoint of the year on, I think George Kittle by far stands out. Pretty close to Travis Kelce in that regard too.


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[Assistant] Left guard, you had Joel Betonio for the Cleveland Browns, Joe Tooney for the Chiefs. You got a couple Chiefs on the second team, offensive line.


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[Assistant] This could be raised at right guard. Cause the AP had Zach Martin, Dallas Cowboys as first team. And then Chris Lindstrom as second team. You have the Falcons, Chris Lindstrom as first team. And then you have Michael Awenu from the Patriots as second team. So you have left off Zach Martin.


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[Assistant] Pete notes here that Quinton Nelson made the Pro Bowl over Owenu. There's no way that should have happened. No way.


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[Assistant] So we, and Pete was talking about this with us before we started the podcast here today, and that has been the case a long time. Once you've established yourself as a name on the offensive line, in years past, it's hard. It's like, alright, you've established that you are the guy. But I feel like,


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[Assistant] So that's the offense. Yep. The Chris Sims team. And I'd like to say too, and you said that, I like that.


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[Assistant] Opinions, your own biases, your own feelings to your vote. And that's the, you like the guys that crush it in the run game. I mean, I feel like that's perfectly fine. If anyone's trying to pick a fight out.


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[Assistant] I mean, it is probably the case that he is being overlooked, too. And so you're probably not wrong with that instinct. And I'm glad you gave some love to Brian O'Neill, because I almost put him on the under-talked-about team. He just missed the cut, even there. Can you believe that? Uh, but we give some love and Chris tells him to second team. So that's the O. That's the O.


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[Assistant] So we got, we'll start on the defensive line, the edge guys, the defensive tackles here, the big butt guys. And here, here are the names that we're used to seeing. There's not a whole lot of guys off the radar. We've been talking about these guys all year long because of what we do with the big butt awards. Uh, but your first team defensive lineman, Chris Jones, Dexter Lawrence, I mean,


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[Assistant] So you thought that the AP and Totality ended up putting him second team and the Jets' Quinn and Williams first team.


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[Assistant] I think I texted you too. I was like, Hey, let's give some love to Christian Wilkins. And you're like, I already, I already did that. Because yeah, I think he did miss a little bit of time


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[Assistant] Your edge guys, you went with Nick Bosa and Micah Parsons first team. You didn't have Micah Parsons at linebacker, so that was good.


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[Assistant] I've seen them play that once or twice. So you had Bosa and Parsons as your first team, guys. Uh, you had Miles Garrett and Max Crosby second team.


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[Assistant] Let's go to the linebackers now in the defensive backs. You get a few more selections here. Three linebackers that make first team. You got a couple corners and then a couple safety. Let's start with the linebackers.


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[Assistant] And I think there was a little bit of, I mean, you had a little bit of a flavor here than what actually happened with the first and second team. You had Fred Warner, uh, from the 49ers as first team, CJ Mosley as well, and then Roquan Smith for the Baltimore Ravens, all first team.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, here it is. So yeaah, we got, uh, Foye Oluwokon. Yeaah. For the Jacksonville Jaguars, is your second team. Dre Greenlaw for the 49ers, second team. Nick Bolton, chief, second team. None of those guys even made the Pro Bowl.


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[Assistant] Let alone the all-pro team. Right. Now we saw Bolton in the Super Bowl, so validation to you. I'm surprised though that Greenlaw hasn't gotten more love, and we'll get to Foyer because I think two years in a row he's basically headlining my defense for my under-talked-about team. He led the NFL in tackles once again, two years in a row.


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[Assistant] So on the second team for the AP, it looks like they had Mosley on the second team, Bobby Wagner, who's not in.


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[Assistant] So Pete has a good question here. He goes, given how much they play nickel defense now, should the all-pro team have five DBs instead of three stand-up linebackers? It's probably to be realistic.


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[Assistant] And you think it's a different specialized position and not just your third best cornerback. No. For a lot of teams. It's not.


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[Assistant] Alright, so it's difficult here with the defensive backs and the safeties. Certainly with the corners, uh, because there's only four. Two first team, two second team. You went with Sauce Gardner for the Jets, first team. You went with Patrick Sertan, first team. And then you went with...


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[Assistant] Your guy, Tyson Campbell, Jacksonville Jaguars, second team with Jair Alexander, last year's under-talked-about corner, second team.


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[Assistant] And Jordan Poyer, he did make the Pro Bowl over Duggar and Holland.


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[Assistant] I think it's 50. 50, alright. He says 50, you say 50.


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[Assistant] You know me, I'm the number one Chris Sims stan. So there is no one that looks at more film and studies more players than you as an analyst. I would put you up against anyone. So I think there is no one more qualified to do that job and hopefully you do it for years to come. I don't know what's more


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[Assistant] I have, dammit. Only in some things. There's other things I'm still trying to infiltrate. Let's start on the offensive line here. Falcons, uh, right guard, Chris Lindstrom, you already mentioned him. He had an awesome year. And I mean, a team, an Atlanta Falcons team that really had a hard time, you know, throwing the ball. Right. You knew they were going to run it and they were like,


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[Assistant] Still did it. Still did it. Al Gere had over a thousand yards and he was a big part of it.


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[Assistant] He did end the year with a good grade though. He was PFF's highest offensive lineman graded.


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[Assistant] Which I do think, you know, like you made all the good points on why some things may be overlooked or mis-graded. I think you do take a whole season-long sample. Some things, some of those get worked out. You know, any individual game you look at a grade, you're like, ah, I don't know about that. But through a season-long sample, it usually- Yeah, it usually equals out. You're right. It does.


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[Assistant] Also on the offensive line, my right tackle under-talked about Penne Sewell. My god. Oh, a shocker. A Detroit line in the middle east? And I know, it's like we've talked about him and he's a generational talent coming out of the draft, but uh,


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[Assistant] But he was a late add to the Pro Bowl, did not make it to start. And he's just a 22 year old guy who Frank Ray now says he is a tackle we create game plans for.


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[Assistant] He is a weapon. So I think a lot of the talk coming out of the draft was, who are you going to take him or Jamar Chase? And we all know Jamar Chase. He is a superstar in the league. I'm making the case that maybe Penny Sewell is almost in that same category.


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[Assistant] Staple on the under-talked-about team for Ahmed Fareed. Quarterback.


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[Assistant] He had the third most first down, so moving the chains with that offense. I mean, they've had a good offense for a long time. He had the most pressures and took the most quarterback hits of any quarterback in the NFL.


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[Assistant] And if you want to talk about quarterback wins, which it seems like people do want to talk about that a lot, he was tied for third with Josh Allen this year.


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[Assistant] And I do think you should get some of the credit for the development of Justin Jefferson too. Sure. Comes in as a rookie and tears it up and now he's one of the best in the league. I mean, Justin Jefferson has a lot to do with that too, but Kirk Cousins is a part of that. I don't disagree. And my final player on the offensive side for the under talked about team running back.


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[Assistant] Aaron Jones, who is, we've talked about him in the past, but I don't know if we talked about him enough this year. He had 5.3 yards per attempt.


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[Assistant] That was the highest for a running back with over 150 carries this year.


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[Assistant] He had a career high, did Aaron Jones, in rushing yards. He had a career high in receptions this year. He, like for an offense that struggled a lot, struggled to throw the ball, Aaron Jones in a lot of ways carried them.


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[Assistant] So Packer's like, we're keeping the most important Aaron around here. We're going to keep Aaron Jones, lock him up for many years to come. Over on the defensive side, two names you already mentioned here, the Jaguars linebacker, Foye Alul Khan, who I think maybe doesn't get the love because people don't know how to say his last name.


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[Assistant] Yeah, 27 year old, former sixth round pick by Atlanta out of Yale. As you mentioned, second year in a row that he's led the NFL in combined tackles, also led in solo tackles this year. He is just always around the ball and delivering some huge blows too. He's a hard hitter. No doubt. Uh, another Jaguar also here, Tyson Campbell. Look at you favorite. See though.


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[Assistant] Can you, I mean, like, I'm looking at that, I paused because I was thinking, you know, we talked so much about the Jacksonville Jaguars and Doug Peterson and, and Travis ETN and Trevor Lawrence's coming out party. And it's like, well, maybe we're starting to see that the defense had something to do with that too.


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[Assistant] I don't know if you're talking about him, he's going to be over-talked about here pretty soon. He won't be able to make this team, which would be a problem for him. Uh, defensive end? Edge? We're going commanders. Montez Sweat.


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[Assistant] He was 9th this year, according to PFF, tied for 4th in the NFL. That position in quarterback hits. And was one of the, you know, they have that pass rush win rate. How often do you get around your guy and maybe you don't get to the quarterback, but you win that battle with the offensive lineman. He was one of the top ones in the NFL this year.


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[Assistant] Probably gonna get franchise tagged there. So yea, some decisions to make for the commanders. Now they got the pressure of having a...


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[Assistant] And I think sometimes what happens there is that if you're like, ah, he's a bust. He wasn't what we thought he would be. And then you stop paying attention to him. And I think this year he had a really good year and pro football focus had him as the most improved player for the Carolina Packers. Uh, this year he was actually their third highest.


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[Assistant] Run defensive grade behind sexy Dexy and Chris Jones had a career high in stops. And so maybe, maybe he's finally realizing that potential that a lot of people saw in.


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[Assistant] Head of the curve with the Big Butt Awards that we will get to after...


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[Assistant] We give out our Peter Peter Peter awards. Are these the same? So Pete, is this what you gave to Chris for his All Pro team here too?


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[Assistant] So these are the similar names here, so Chris and Pete are in unison. In unison. In giving these Peter Peter Peter of the year awards punter that goes to the Chiefs, Tommy Townsend, most underrated weapon on the champ says Pete, best net average, second longest hang time in the NFL this season.


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[Assistant] These all flyers, Pete? Not all flyers, but they're all involved in special teams.


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[Assistant] Uh, so the next one here, this is a flyer. The Jets corner, Justin Hardy. Flyer. Tied for third in special teams tackles this season. Did it while getting, uh, the crap knocked out of him every single play as a flyer. He goes the most underrated job in the NFL. It is.


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[Assistant] But I love the players like him are getting some love because I was around Virginia Tech football for a few years and they had Beamer ball, which was one of the coolest things in college football was like Frank Beamer. He loved special teams and you thought once every other game, they were going to have a huge play on special teams that would change the game. And when those plays happen, as you just mentioned in the Superbowl,


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[Assistant] They're huge. I mean, they're game altering plays. You can almost affect a game on special teams even more than you can on offense and defense sometimes.


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[Assistant] Another stud on special teams commander safety, Jeremy Reeves, fifth year veteran who hustles his A S S off Pete puts in here. Uh, he was first team all pro deserved it. I think we all saw out there, the emotional, uh, that was awesome when Ron Rivera told them that he was really cool.


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[Assistant] DePaula. Sorry, we should have practiced that before. What an honor, we've butchered your name. Andrew, congratulations, he was also first team all-pro. Good snapper, but Pete notes, shines because he books it downfield and makes


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[Assistant] And Pete wants to make all of his children long snappers. That's his goal.


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[Assistant] Alright, we're gonna get to the third annual Homies Choice Awards in one second, but first, the final Big Butt of the Year Awards.


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[Assistant] It's sad, we're not gonna hear that song for a few months now. I know. It's the end of an era.


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[Assistant] Alright, so second team, defensive tackle, big butt of the year. We're going to give that to Dexter Lawrence of the Giants. He won the weekly award two times, one time in the regular season, one time in the playoffs, as you mentioned too, made Kirk Cousins throw short and get ridiculed. And so he is my second team guy.


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[Assistant] And he was third amongst, uh, edge in tackle. So effective in the run game as well. So some love to Jalen.


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[Assistant] And now it is time for the big butt of the year award winner.


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[Assistant] Ladies and gentlemen, congratulations, you just won a Super Bowl, but now you have won the biggest award of your life.


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[Assistant] Chris Jones of the Kansas City Chiefs, a five time winner of the weekly award, including in the divisional round, the AFC championship, and the Super Bowl, the three that you want to win it in. Chris Jones, congratulations, you are the big butt at Defensive Tech.


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[Assistant] He does have an elephant butt award trophy now in his trophy case for edge. So I gave it to Jalen Phillips, second team. So you're like, who is he going to give it to for first team?


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[Assistant] Ladies and gentlemen, the big bud award winner of the year at edge is a tie. Nick Bosa from the 49ers and Micah Parsons from the Dallas Cowboys. Pete's booing in our ear. You know, it's my award. I can do whatever I want to do. It was impossible to separate the two. And so I didn't do it. I just gave it to


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[Assistant] That's great. Nick Bosa led in quarterback hits by a pretty good margin this year. And then Micah Parsons led in pressures and hurries by a lot. So, I mean, they both had awesome years. They both deserve an elephant rear trophy.


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[Assistant] I had to do it. They each get one cheek. We'll split the trophy in half. One cheek to Nick Bosa, the other to Micah Parsons. Alright, so now we finish with the third annual Homies Choice Award. So you tweeted out a ballot out here. We got 361 responses. Well done homies out there.


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[Assistant] So a reminder that unlike the NFL awards, these awards do include playoff performance, not just the regular season. So that could totally change who wins the MVP here, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, Patrick Mahomes, congratulations. You are the Homies Choice Award winner. 83% of the vote to him. Second place, your guy, Jalen Hertz, with 6% of the vote.


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[Assistant] Wow. Well, come on. We're better than that. Don't vote for him, homies. Come on. What are you doing? Yeah. I wonder if he has a vote. If he has a vote in every one of these categories, we know that just Mike got a hold of it. It might have been Mike voting for himself there. Patrick Mahomes, congratulations, homie of the year, MVP award winner, offensive player of the year, according to the homies.


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[Assistant] This one goes to Justin Jefferson. 48% of the vote.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes, second, 21%. Yea, Jalen Hurts, third. I went with Travis Kelsey here, who got 9% of the votes. Yea. I think he could make the, the case. You know, you never want to give it to the MVP guy again, which I feel like we should sort these awards out a little bit. Right. Because if you're the MVP of the league,


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[Assistant] I mean, you're also the offensive player of the league too, but people don't like to give it to the same guy twice, which I get.


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[Assistant] Should almost make the MVP like ineligible to receive the award. We do that next year. Whoever you voted for for MVP, you can't vote for, for, uh, offensive player, but yeah, Justin Jefferson. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Lane Johnson got one vote. That would be great. One of these years, right? Wouldn't that be awesome if an offensive lineman won offensive player of the year?


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[Assistant] He's the king of it. Maybe one day. Maybe one day I'll grow into it. Uh, defensive or offensive rookie of the year. This one was tough for me.


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[Assistant] Going through these, I was like, who am I? Because I do like Kenneth Walker, and he is the winner, according to the homies, and this is, uh,


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[Assistant] And you got Chris Olave, Isaiah Pacheco, Tyler Alger. Yea, there were some good ones. A good year for some skilled players on the offensive side, rookies.


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[Assistant] I think I went with Chris Olave, if I remember correctly. You got 9% of the homies votes here. Just cause I thought, you know, Garrett Wilson won it, but I don't think they had two different of years. No, they're not.


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[Assistant] Maybe it helped Soss Gardner too because he won the Defensive Rookie of the Year according to our homies and this vote was not even close. 74% for him. Aiden Hutchinson, I did vote for my guy Aiden. I'm a good Detroit Lions fan. Uh, 16% of the vote and then Tariq Wolin with 7% of the vote.


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[Assistant] Some other guys who got some votes out there, George Karlaftis, uh, Jaylen Watson, Jaquan Briskir, Trent McDuffie, and your guy, Kayvon Thibodeau. Take that, Chris Simms. Yes, take that, take that. Coach of the Year.


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[Assistant] This one went to Brian Dayball, and the homies agree, but this was very close in voting. It was Brian Dayball, 28% of the homies votes, and then the guy I voted for, Kyle Shanahan, second, 26% of the votes. Yeah, I voted for him.


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[Assistant] And here's an indication that the homies were taking the playoffs into account to Andy Reid. 15%. He was the third highest vote getter. Can't argue with that. You won the whole thing.


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[Assistant] I mean you can make an argument for Andy Reid being up there amongst the top top coaches that have ever coached. He's definitely in that conversation.


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[Assistant] He's up there. The thing for me is that he's done it in different situations, right? He's been very, very good Super Bowl team with Donovan McNabb. Right. They were very, very good with the Chiefs and Alex Smith. Yeah. And now they're very, very good with Patrick Mahomes. And so it's like that not all, not every coach has had their peaks with that many different quarterbacks in style.


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[Assistant] Uh, breakout player of the year. So this is what Pete has done here. Cause we've complained about this. It's like comeback player of the year and breakout player of the year. They're really two different things, right? Comeback player of the year. It's like, if you weren't hurt last year, you just sat the bench. Did you really come back? You were there. You just didn't play. So we've separated it breakout player of the year and


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[Assistant] The homies have chosen Gino Smith for this one.


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[Assistant] The haters were writing, he didn't write back. 41%. 41% of the votes out there go to Gino. Second was Dexter Lawrence at 17%. Hufanga 14% for the 49ers, then Josh Jacobs 13%. What a thought he might get.


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[Assistant] A little more love, Josh Jacobs. Seems like he was left for, for dead, but, uh, you really can't argue with Gino Smith, the homies pick.


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[Assistant] So this is what the homies voted. This was the closest vote by the homies too for the comeback player of the year. And it was Christian McCaffrey just by one percentage point, 43% of the vote over Saquon Barkley who got 42% of the vote.


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[Assistant] I think I voted for Saquon Barkley. Yeah, you think so? Saquon Barkley there. For the reasons you mentioned, right? I don't think...


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[Assistant] Christian McCaffrey, I mean, it's so close, right? Who knows? He was awesome. I do want to say though, that for the breakout player of the year, we had our most write-ins for a player in that category. Tony Pollard got 15 write-ins for the breakout player of the year. That's a good, that's a good check by the homies out there. Definitely.


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[Assistant] Alright, our final one for the homies here. The damn okay performance of the year.


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[Assistant] We gave you a lot of plays out there, and ultimately,


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[Assistant] I would say a bit of a landslide here with all the different plays, a quarter of the votes. Go to Justin Jefferson, his week 10 performance at Buffalo. That really does stand out. 193 receiving yards, one receiving touchdown. That got 24% of the vote. Beating out Jalen Hertz in the Superbowl, uh, was 16% of the vote.


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[Assistant] Yeah, some others receiving votes were Dak in the wild card, Kirk Cousins against the Colts, that comeback game. Yeah, that was pretty freaking amazing. Uh, Daniel Jones, Dexter Lawrence wild card, Trevor Lawrence when he came back from four picks. That was pretty good.


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[Assistant] It's not even over yet, cause we got Bucks Cowboys tonight. That's gonna be awesome. But, uh, yeaah, it was awesome. You were working all weekend. I have been working all week, non-stop. I have yet to have a day off. I'm just gonna go straight through, apparently. Nobody cares that I'm busy. Don't worry. Just keep going. Here we go.


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[Assistant] You know, I wanted to jump on, oh, I don't like the 2-7 matchups, right? And I wish we'd go back to the old 1-6 seed and all that, but hey.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was a great weekend, and I'm expecting a great game tonight that's gonna be good too, but uhm, you know, I mean, the weekend was good, but it became great.


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[Assistant] Yeah, at one score game in the playoffs against a team that...


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[Assistant] Like this, they outplayed the Vikings and lost the game. I mean, we, we said that on the podcast, like the giants are going to go back and be able to sell their team. Like, Hey, we don't throw this interception. We don't fumble this ball here. We catch this one here. We don't have a punt block. We're as good as this team. We can win. So, and then the giants also a team.


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[Assistant] A lot like the Vikings that are very comfortable in one-score games. So they were gonna be intimidated by the, oh no, the Vikings in a one-score game. They is right in the wheelhouse of the Giants too. I mean, all year's been one-score games for the most part.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but, but it was, uhm, it was a fun game to watch. I think, I think it was. I don't know, I'm a Giants fan, I know it was. I mean, I, I know I felt that way, but did you feel that way at home? 100%. Yeaah. I mean, it was lack of defense, a lot of big plays on the offensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] And yeah, I think all the things that, you know, you're kind of going into here that we were worried about with the Vikings as a talking about, are they really an elite football team kind of showed itself yesterday.


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[Assistant] You know, it's just, it's, it's amazing that they were 13 and 4 with that defense. I mean, was that, was that me? Was that the greatest show on turf yesterday or was that the New York Giants?


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[Assistant] Phenomenal. That wasn't just good, and I feel like people, because of Daniel Jones and Mr. Vikings, everyone's gonna kinda go,


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[Assistant] Well, and I want to go like, I know the Vikings aren't good, but still, that was like, torture you with his arm, torture you with his legs. He did everything yesterday, and he was phenomenal and it's just great to kind of finally see him ride the wave of winning after his first few years of struggling.


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[Assistant] Exactly right. And their offense was pretty good. Right.


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[Assistant] So what is that exactly? Split safety coverage. Wink Martindale, he's famous for kinda playing man to man and being creative with blitzing, right? So usually when you blitz, yes you're gonna play a single safety defense.


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[Assistant] Uh, and, and usually with the Giants, it is man to man. Sometimes there's some blood zone cover three, right? So those are your single safety defenses. Wing Martindale's not one of those guys that goes, Hey, let's play cover two. Let's play Tampa two. Let's play two man. He's always trying to be creative and stress you out in certain ways there, but he did this in the first matchup.


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[Assistant] Where it was more zone than any game I had saw this year. I mean, when I went back and watched, I was like, damn, they played more zone than I remembered. I didn't realize they did it this much. Right? And even within that, even in some of the plays in the first matchup where it might have been man on one side.


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[Assistant] You know, they'd find a way to always kind of shade the safety over there.


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[Assistant] As far as towards Justin Jefferson. And it looked like we got that again yesterday. Certainly a good amount of it. And then even when they did play single safety, I think in a lot of big downs, they, they doubled them too. So they just went, okay, yeah, this is single safety, but we're kind of bracketing you. We got a guy, if you go inside, a guy go to that side. They weren't going to let him go off.


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[Assistant] And the thing that's risky about that and the thing we talked about a little bit on Wednesday is, you know, okay, that's an extra guy coverage or whatever else.


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[Assistant] I guess the Giants came away going, hey, we'd rather lose that way than you just bombing it with Justin Jefferson. And they put the faith in their big guys up front. And, you know, Sexy Dexy was phenomenal yesterday. Sexy Dexy was the best.


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[Assistant] I'm just trying to look at the schedule. Sexy Dexy was the best defense alignment in all of Super Wild Card Weekend. I don't know if somebody from Dallas or Tampa will upset that discussion tonight, but he put


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[Assistant] I mean, he had the interior offensive line of the Vikings on skates the whole game.


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[Assistant] Well, it's zero tech is like head up, true nose tackle, right?


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[Assistant] So, you know, there's no trying to shoot through a gap. It's literally like, no, we want you to be right here, that guy to snap the ball, and we want you to, if it's a pass, just


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[Assistant] And it just, we've seen the year, as the year's gone on, he's gotten better and better and better to where he has jumped in the conversation as one of the best defensive tackles in football.


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[Assistant] Not even just a big run stopper at 345. It's literally like you're talking about. It's true disruption. Him and Leonard Williams were phenomenal in the football game. Sexy Dexy big time.


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[Assistant] They call it the shot to the head butchers. Again, it's wrong. It's supposed to be forcible contact to the head. That was not forcible. No. Right. It's just, it bothered me. No doubt about it. But either way, his pressure on the last play of the game


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[Assistant] You know, really the last two plays of the game. They threw the crossing round to Osborne, which got broken up.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe Cousins could have led him a little bit more, but it was a good play by the defender. Dexter Lawrence got pressure on that play. And then we had the fourth down play, where I know Kirk Cousins is taking a lot of crap right now for throwing it short on a, what was it, fourth and eight? Fourth and eight, so let's take a look at it.


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[Assistant] This is not doing a total just, like, justice as far as Dexter Lawrence had been living at 97, right, had been living in Kirk Cousins' lap for most of the game. So he's conscious of that.


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[Assistant] He's conscious of it. You know, when you talk about quarterbacks of the internal clock, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, when your eternal clocksman disrupted, it's a big play here. You don't want to go down with a sack, right? So you just want to go down that way. And it's what he said after the game. And to the point of what he said also after the game, like, Hey, there's probably been a lot of times this year he's thrown the ball short of the first down marker. And then his guy makes a move and breaks a tackle and gets a first down.


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[Assistant] Exactly right. He's gonna get killed here. So, hey, in the perfect world, hey, he's gonna watch this tomorrow and go, I wish I would have just thrown to 17 across the middle, right? He's looking at Justin Jefferson on his right when he drops back. Jefferson is doubled by Julian Love and, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, uh, 22, Pete, our corner, uh, uh, Dory Jackson, holy cow, I couldn't think of his name. So he doubled there, he doesn't like that, but I feel like his, really his next look is Hawkinson, then to 17 over the middle, but I'm sure he feel like he didn't have enough time to get over to 17, right? Yeah, we'd love for him to maybe


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[Assistant] You know, step to the right, run to the right, try to extend the play, and then throw the ball over the middle.


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[Assistant] Agreed. It was, it was a microcosm of what we saw all game long, is Dexter and Lawrence dominating the middle of their interior offensive line and causing issues for them. And one of the reasons that, yea, they got off the field a bunch of times on third downs and stuff, was cause of pressure of Dexter and Lawrence making them feel uncomfortable, waiting for patterns to develop down the field.


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[Assistant] Hey, the one thing I'll say here, I don't like the Kirk Cousins stuff. I don't love it, alright? Kirk Cousins was one of the definite bright spots of their football team yesterday and for the season.


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[Assistant] Exactly. And so that's where I want everybody just to be like, come on, let's be a little realistic here. I understand he's not a superstar and he hasn't won in prime time and there's all of that.


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[Assistant] But damn, he's like one of the least concerning things on their football team. He's not the story. Right, so please, let's everybody, let's not always do that. The story is their crappy defense. The story is that Daniel Jones played as good as the first playoff football game you're ever gonna see in your life. So let's talk about that a little bit more.


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[Assistant] I mean, this is where the day ball magic, you know, even after the game, did you see the post game press conference? He's just saying good. And the giant's media was like, wait a second, why are you not more effusive?


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[Assistant] I thought good was a good adjective. But that's kinda, but I think that's their strategy to that, right? A hundred percent, Ahmed. You're right. Right. He's like, it's like, uh,


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[Assistant] Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick School of Coaching, right? Yeah. Where it's a little more...


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[Assistant] You know, uh, affable and a good, like, not quite as, like, oh, well, I'm Bill, it's Belichick, and, you know, maybe not as tough and mean as Parcells could be, but he's trying to let you know, I really liked his performance, but he's not gonna go crazy. Well, because everyone else is, right? Exactly right!


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[Assistant] And this is what's got him here anyways. He hasn't just always been like, Oh, you're the best. You're the awesome. He's pushed buttons. He's going, wait.


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[Assistant] And yes, it was an amazing moment and he deserves a ton of the credit. You know, what was, things we, we've talked about Daniel Jones together over the last year or two, right? We've talked about how awesome he is in front of the podium.


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[Assistant] You know, we've talked about the team has given them no chance to succeed. It wasn't just a bad offensive line. It was the worst by far offensive line, right? Sure.


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[Assistant] One, fix the offensive line. Two, work the offensive system that made sense for the team and the way it was built. And then within that, slowly built the confidence of Daniel Jones.


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[Assistant] And to go, hey, hey, execution, hey, good, we won a game, we're winning games, you're not making mistakes, ooh, you're making a few plays. This, we had this progression during the year of, oh, like, hey, he's just taking care of the ball. And then it went to, damn, he's making a lot of plays with running the ball. And, you know, he's being efficient in the pass game too. And then it started to become,


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[Assistant] Damn, he's dangerous! Run in! I mean, he's dangerous! And damn, he's...


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[Assistant] He's really making a lot of plays with these guys. I don't even know who they are at receiver. To now, here we are at the end of the year going, shit, he's taking over games.


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[Assistant] And I think the biggest thing to our listener and John Hussein Kennedy's point is he's got him to be less robotic.


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[Assistant] He's got him like, uh, we've talked about in the off season, like his big issue standing in the pocket, just sitting there trying to do what the coach said, go to one read, go to two read, go to three read. I'm in the pocket. I'm in the pocket. Dayball has got him to be like, Hey dude, remember when we f**king played backyard football when you were 12 and like, if the first guy wasn't open, you just f**king run around and try to make something happen. And he's just got a great feel for that. And to me, that was another thing to get on the Vikings about. Like, did the Vikings not think Daniel Jones could scramble?


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[Assistant] Was there no plan of like, we're just gonna rush him like he's some normal guy? He's legitimately fast. Exactly right. I mean, he's high four-five-ish fast and, and, and I'm in like...


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[Assistant] Alright, we know Jalen Hurts is a better runner. We know Justin Fields is a better runner. Lamar. Josh Allen. Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] Kyler Murray, okay, maybe. Kyler Murray, maybe. Because again, the size of Daniel Jones and his ability to put the shoulder down like a Josh Allen and Jalen Hurst and them to get extra yards, we don't give that value enough. But he's, I mean, arguably top five-ish, top six-ish running quarterback in football, right? Which you would never think. Never think, right. The shape of his head.


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[Assistant] Agreed. It felt like the Giants had a, and this is no disrespect, because the Vikings had a great year, and Kevin O'Connell, it seemed like the Giants had a little more intensity on the field overall, right? At least that was my sense. And again, not that I felt like Minnesota was asleep, but, you know, just from the get-go,


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[Assistant] Alright, the Vikings, they go down, they get the good drive, right? It was a little work, and they score a touchdown, but it was 12 plays, 75, oh, okay, well, that was a good drive. But, the way the Giants answered, and the funny thing is, of course me and Florio are sitting there watching and I'm yelling and being obnoxious, but,


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[Assistant] I don't know. You might need to get worried. That looked really easy, right? That was like, he said Morgan shaking her head cause she heard him say it too. And it was just like the giants came out hitting on all cylinders and you could tell they had a game plan to expose the Minnesota Vikings. And again, I thought one, Hey, run the ball a little bit more in this game.


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[Assistant] You know, they still obviously didn't want to do that. They still felt like, hey, forget that. We can throw in this team at will, right? And they did for the most part and, uh, Jones was phenomenal.


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[Assistant] No, I wasn't going crazy there. I wasn't. I actually was...


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[Assistant] Dave Ball's earned your trust. Dave Ball's earned my trust. He doesn't just do it just to do it or just say I'm going to be aggressive. Well, you got Daniel Jones. He ended up getting two yards on that, I think. Great. Up the middle. He's great at that type of stuff. And then I think in a game like this where


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[Assistant] You know, we were getting to the point of the game where it felt like, I don't know if we can really stop Minnesota either. It was the right game to do this. And we were at, that was at a point of the game where it felt like, okay, whoever has the ball last is gonna win the game here.


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[Assistant] And then I know we got into a few defensive stops, but yeah, I mean, hey, that was a big fourth and one.


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[Assistant] Another big fourth and one, and I think people will forget about, is that the Vikings were lining up to go in fourth and one and they false started, right? Had to kick the field goal. So they were down there 24-21. It could have ended up being 28-24 because of the false start by Darasaw, right? That made it fourth and six, they kicked the field goal, makes it 24-all.


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[Assistant] That was a big moment in the game too. But yeaah, it just felt like the Giants really made a lot of big plays and big moments. Really only felt like they made one mistake the whole game.