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[Assistant] And I do think, I'm not saying that like the Cardinals were shook, just that like, you know, Kyle Murray's their guy and you know, starting quarterback suffers a bad knee injury that throws, throws you for a loop.


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[Assistant] By the way, the Lions were plus 280 earlier today to make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I was trying to sell celly on that actually. He wouldn't, he wouldn't bite.


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[Assistant] Interesting. All right, that'll do it for us. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Reach for Wilson Embertson. Go Cuse. Go America. See you guys later.


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[Assistant] Welcome to the Big Six Podcast, everybody. I'm Ryan Wilson, and, uh, more importantly, I'm joined by Depot Samuel, the all-everything wide receiver.


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[Assistant] Call him a running back if you want. I think he prefers wide receiver. Uh, stand up player, let's go 49ers. Deebo, how are you doing?


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[Assistant] I'm good. So I've got a quick story for you. You don't remember this, but a few years ago back at the Cedar Bowl, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, because the, the conversation coming into, to sort of that draft process, you've been banged up, I think, your last year at South Carolina.


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[Assistant] And the conversation was, is Devo fast enough? I remember talking to some teams about that. And I asked you specifically on the field after one of the practices where you just kept burning guys in these one-on-one drills. Uhm, what's your sort of answer to people who were concerned about you? You basically said, I proved these people wrong, didn't I? And I look back on that quote.


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[Assistant] And it just reminds me that sometimes I think we overthink this whole pre-job process because either.


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[Assistant] You're good or you're not good. You can play or you can't play. Did that serve as motivation for you at any point or were you just focused on, on being Deebo and doing your thing on the field?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was fun and I'm glad you've had the success you've had and it's been incredibly fun to watch, especially


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[Assistant] From that senior bowl sort of jumping off point and then just balling out, uh, once you got to the league. So let me ask you something a little less serious and, uh, Billy, the producer.


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[Assistant] Put this one in my ear. I think it's a good question. Uh, he's your age. I'm an old man. So these things I don't sort of keep up with unless my kids keep me in the loop. So did you come up with the, with the boom box walkout that's gone viral? Like how did that evolve?


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[Assistant] So let me ask you about the addition of Christian McCaffrey. Everyone knows that Kyle Shanahan is fantastic in terms of scheming up these runs. And I don't want to say you can put anyone back there and they'll have success, but a lot of players have had success in that scheme.


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[Assistant] But Christian McAfee brings the added element of doing things as a receiver, of course. He threw a touchdown pass a few weeks ago.


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[Assistant] How much higher does this take this offense with the versatility and you know, the, the pro bowl level of talent that, that Christian McCaffrey brings to, to San Francisco right now.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you about Shanahan in particular. Uh, it's always when you talk to, to guys that have been in the NFL for early on in their career, they, they usually say it's a huge leap. Even if you're playing SEC and come to the NFL.


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[Assistant] Is, is Kyle Shanahan like a, a physics teacher? And you know, previously you were just doing one plus one. Is, is it that level of having to understand things and him being like this genius or is it simpler than that? Like what's it like to play for Kyle Shanahan and his ability to get you open?


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[Assistant] And now, and now you, now you're teaching other people how to match. And so, you know, it sort of, it sort of, uh, seeps into you whether you want it to or not. And it's an offense, obviously that, that makes everyone better. It's incredibly fun to watch from afar. All right. Let me ask this question. So again, I'm going to blame this on Billy, the producer, cause I don't want you to get mad at me. So Tyreek.


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[Assistant] Jamar, Stefan Diggs, Justin Jefferson, Devante, you of course, uh, they were your top five at the start of the year.


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[Assistant] Let's, let's re-rank these guys. You wanna re-rank these guys who your top 5 are now based on what we've seen?


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[Assistant] Is that the most impressive catch you've seen? I mean, including Odell Beckham and then we saw George Pickens earlier this year had that crazy catch against the Browns.


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[Assistant] That catch seems like if that pass was thrown a million times, Justin Jefferson's making it one time and that just happened to be that one time.


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[Assistant] And Justin Jefferson is another example of a player, much like yourself, who people had questions about coming out of LSU because he played in the slot. He wasn't going to be that fast. And I remember we talked to him at the combine. He just measured at six two and he ran in the four fours, I think. And that seemed to be a game changer. He told us to look, if you watch prior to.


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[Assistant] That is fantastic. Devo, I want to thank you for joining us. I want to congratulate you on a great season so far. I hope this success continues. 49ers are in great position, man. I'm telling you, they have a chance to win the division. You don't need me to tell you this, but I'll say it just for the purpose of people listening. And they got a legit chance to be one of the top teams in the conference before we get through this. We've got two months to go. Devo,


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[Assistant] Continue success, good talking to you, and hopefully we'll see you soon.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast, CBS Sports Daily, NFL Podcast. I'm your host. It's time to recap Thursday Night Football.


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[Assistant] A pretty thrilling and ex- regardless, extremely important game between the Packers and the Titans as Tennessee emerges from Lambeau Field. Victorious 27 to 17, joining me to break it down, Ryan Wilson and John Breach. What's up, boys?


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[Assistant] Yeah. A win tonight by the Packers would have definitely gotten them into.


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[Assistant] R-E-L-A-X territory maybe? Uh, but I think let's start with the titans because, I mean, here we are again!


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[Assistant] I mean, Derrick Henry is dominating right now. He's playing pretty good football and Mike Frabel is just coaching this team to the top of the AFC. They were the number one seed in the AFC last year. Really had no business being there. They get rid of AJ Brown this off season. They lose Harold Landry to injury and there are seven and three.


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[Assistant] The next closest team to them in the division are the Colts at four, five and one.


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[Assistant] They are on cruise control to win this division. Once again, after all of us idiots picked another team, whether it's the Colts or the Jaguars and.


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[Assistant] I forgot, I forgot about you. I forgot about you. Like Titans, the, like the Derek Henry and Tana Hill don't fit Nashville theory.


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[Assistant] Right. Yes, exactly. These should be in like Cleveland or like, like your point, Ryan, they should swap with the Bengals and it's like Joe burrow and the high flying, like scoring circus in Nashville, like Bachelorette party spot, bro out of the town all the time. And instead it's, you know, just very low key Ryan Tannehill.


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[Assistant] And when you, when you wake up, when you wake up, like after the weekend, you feel just awful. Like nothing, nothing went your way.


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[Assistant] So I mean like, what is, I mean, somebody called out the Titans earlier, uh, earlier.


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[Assistant] Can make a deep run in the playoffs. They've been to the AFC championship game. So I guess the answer is yes, but it does feel just like by virtue of the fact that they are.


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[Assistant] Hinging everything on Derrick Henry. Like Derrick Henry has to stay healthy and has to carry the ball 450 times.


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[Assistant] Even if Ryan Tannehill gets going, like his ceiling is still kind of capped, I guess. You know, do you see what I'm saying? Like, do you think, how confident would you be in the Titans making a run in this AFC?


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[Assistant] The Dolphins currently are the, what are the Dolphins of the two seed right now? Miami's number two. Miami right now, Miami would play new England, Buffalo. Oh God, Tennessee.


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[Assistant] You know, Bag of Magic Beans, B22120, uhm, when, when Brian Dable goes for two at the end.


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[Assistant] The blowout loss of the bill is 41-7. Man, 0-2 for the Titans feels like a long time ago. Uh, then of course the Chiefs, uh, two weeks ago.


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[Assistant] 17 to the Colts, 17 to the Commanders, 10 to the Colts, 10 to the Texans, 20 to the Chiefs in a losing effort, 10 to the Broncos and then 17 tonight to the Packers. Like this is a team that


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[Assistant] Can the Beagles protect Burrow and get the ball out quickly for Burrow?


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[Assistant] Because, I mean, the Titans, you know, even with Harold Landry missing, like, I mean, Jeffrey Simmons is a problem in the interior. That guy is devastating. Uhm, just sort of looking at, you know,


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[Assistant] Look at the rest of the schedule of the time. Again, not to get too far ahead, but like it's interesting bingles at home and then at Eagles the next two weeks.


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[Assistant] Uh, that should probably tell us a lot about them. They close out with a fairly friendly schedule Jaguars twice.


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[Assistant] Texans, actually very friendly schedule at the Chargers and then this is not an order, but, and then the Cowboys at home.


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[Assistant] So you would think that if they split with the Bengals and the Eagles.


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[Assistant] Probably go worst case three and two, so four and three worst case the rest of the way in.


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[Assistant] Which, you know, it's like worst case 11 and six, that's going to win the division. Probably not going to get you the one seed obviously, but you're going to have a home game.


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[Assistant] Right, which just makes a huge difference. So I think Tennessee.


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[Assistant] When I say this is a tough, I think they're pretty trustworthy in terms of, you know, what you're going to get.


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[Assistant] And if, you know, if they get down and Tana has to throw a ton and.


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[Assistant] You know, he's not, he's off. I mean, obviously that's going to be a problem, but you know,


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[Assistant] He, he's an underrated quarterback too. Like I think, you know, any of you guys don't think Mike Vrabel likes him. I think Vrabel, I think Vrabel loves him because he'll go to war with him. Oh no, I think he likes him. It's, it's Raylon Burks.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean like Josh Medeiros doesn't hate Derek Carr, but he would upgrade it in a second if he could.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't want to suggest that Derek Carr is not as tough as Ryan Daniel because I think he's very tough.


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[Assistant] I think Ryan Tanejo is more of a, like, I might be able to in what Derek Carr moved next to him. I'll tell you that much. What?


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[Assistant] Exactly. That would be, that's Mike Vrabel's reaction when Derek Hart buys the house next to Mike Vrabel. He's like, what are you doing here, buddy? I just wanted to, you know, hang out.


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[Assistant] I'm curious, like, I don't, I don't know the answer to this. I'm just sort of throwing it out. But, um, so the, uh, the Titans took trailing Berks with 18th overall in the first round.


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[Assistant] The Packers traded up in front of them and got Christian Watson. Do you think there's a chance that the Titans might've grabbed Watson there too? I don't think so.


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[Assistant] The way the defense is playing, despite the fact that they're missing, you know, key players, um, and the way that, you know, Tannahill sort of elevates the offense. This, this is a very dangerous team. Let me ask you this. Do you think that.


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[Assistant] Are we, are we worried at all about Derek Henry's workload? Because it was about this time last year when he had all those carries and it just sort of caught up with him. He is now after.


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[Assistant] He was leaving the league coming in with 202 carries into this game and he carried the ball 28 times. So he is at 230 carries through 10 games. Pretty easy math there. You do that over the course of the season.


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[Assistant] I mean, I remember I did bill barnes pod last year and we were, it was, I think it was after like the eighth, eighth, eighth time game of the season. And we were like,


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[Assistant] Alright, let's take a break. When we come back, we'll find out if Twitter's still around and discuss. We'll do a little RIP for the 2022 Green Bay Packers.


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[Assistant] Okay, can you give us a, is it like, Favreira or Rogergera?


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[Assistant] It's, it's like, it's insane. That's sort of like the, like, uh, Breech's dad story about, you know, getting hitchhiking with like, with a waitress in the AFC championship game. It's like, you would know that stuff would never happen now. Like you'd be like, Bledsoe's got a car, you know, and all that stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, 100%. Uh, according to Carmen Vitali, uh, who is a reporter, covers the Packers. Somebody asked Aaron Rodgers. Where do you go from here? Aaron Aaron's response breach home.


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[Assistant] He, he, his ball placement was all over the place tonight. He missed a lot of wide open throws. He had a couple of great moments. Christian Watson definitely is like.


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[Assistant] You know, sort of justifying like that's why we moved up in the second round and grabbed him. He looks like he could be a future number one. He's performing at a higher level than most Packers rookie wide receivers. But clearly like.


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[Assistant] You know, this is just a, you know, this is a supremely flawed Packers team that couldn't be what they wanted to be.


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[Assistant] Hey, uh, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, not a trivia question, but I guess it's still a trivia. Uhm, when...


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[Assistant] Is the last time Aaron Rodgers had a $300 passing game.


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[Assistant] I mean, I, I mean tonight, I think it's too like, I think Brady talked about this or we, I'm pretty sure Brady talked about this or maybe it was Aaron Nagler talked about this on the, on the pod. Um.


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[Assistant] But you could clearly see Roger's mechanics have just sort of, I don't want to.


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[Assistant] His, the lack of, he's pressing and it's causing his mechanics to change. Like the throw, uh, to Lazard where those are joining wide ass open across the middle.


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[Assistant] And then they have the Sammy Watkins store where he was wide open and there was a couple of those. He was holding the ball, like tentative.


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[Assistant] You know, and it's, it's, it's hard to know for sure. Like, is that, is that Rogers? Is that his receivers? But he did not play well tonight. He was bad. He missed a ton of throws that he can't miss. The ball place was all over the place through, through behind open guys through high on open guys. And I mean, I'm not saying that's the difference of the game, but


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[Assistant] It is right. If he hits a couple of those throws and they convert those long longer third downs or the shorter third downs, they go, they go get scores in.


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[Assistant] They're not down 10 with five minutes left desperately trying to go for it on fourth and one with a draw to Aaron Jones at the middle.


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[Assistant] You look at like the Rams or Stafford and the Packers with Rogers.


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[Assistant] You know, is when you're out of the playoff race and I mean, I think both teams are out, but you know, CS, I mean.


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[Assistant] I can't, I can't see him, I can't see him sitting as long as he didn't get to 9 wins, honestly.


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[Assistant] Couldn't it be spawned as not a benching of Rogers, but a showcasing of love? You can call it whatever you want.


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[Assistant] The thing with love though, like, if you could showcase me, look good, and you could trade in this all season for like a wide receiver, you know, like a, uh, Chase Claypool? Canary Stoney? What do you mean?


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[Assistant] You showcase him this season, you showcase him at the end of this season. Oh, Ryder's done.


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[Assistant] Right. Yeah. So he doesn't have a 99 million dollar dead cap hit if he retires.


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[Assistant] Right, right. His guarantee salary for next year is like 1.165 million. And he's a 31.6 million dollar cap hit.


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[Assistant] If they cut him, they would have a 99.8 million dollar dead cabinet. So you're not gonna cut him.


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[Assistant] He like breaks into Brian Gudekun's office and like files the paperwork to cut himself.


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[Assistant] And after they traded for Jordan Love or traded Jordan Love away, so they have a no quarterback at a $99 million dead cap and.


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[Assistant] I mean, I mean, I'm not, I'm not trying to get booed by Billy here, but I mean, you can steal one against the Eagles on Sunday Night Football.


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[Assistant] I don't have confidence in them beating the Eagles. I'm just saying like if they stole one and then they beat the Bears.


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[Assistant] And then all of a sudden you got the rams and the dolphins and the vikings and the lions up.


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[Assistant] It's just so backbreaking to come back like in that crazy game against the Cowboys, steal that one away from Mike McCarthy in Green Bay. And then you're hosting, you know.


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[Assistant] Right, but I'm just saying like, you get that game and then you're hosting the Titans in prime time on Thursday where you have a, you have...


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[Assistant] I mean like a really long buy, like a mini buy between titans and eagles.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't tell him. He'll be mad about it. Alright, that'll do it for us. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.


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[Assistant] Right, that Benson. Uh, make sure and uh, check out the PIXPOT!


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[Assistant] In the feed tomorrow, you can watch it on YouTube, youtube.com slash pick six for breach for Wilson. I'm Brinton. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] Uh, double-digit win for the Eagles, a moral victory for the Texans, I feel like Breach, uh, who are now 1-6-1. And uhm, some good, a lot of good.


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[Assistant] On the Texas side, a little sloppy for the Eagles, but this is a situation where, like,


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[Assistant] First eight and a start ever. Way back in the day, Breach football outsiders did this study called Stomps and Guts. And basically what it says is if you're a really good football team, you should be bad football teams by a lot. And then the games against similar competition, it could go either way.


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[Assistant] This isn't a game where, and last week came to you, they beat the crap out of the Steelers as they should have. But this game, they played down to the level of the Texans, you could argue the Texans outplayed them for large stretches, and they still won by 12 points. So I'll ask you, sir.


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[Assistant] If you have to rank the top three teams in the National Football League.


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[Assistant] Where are you putting these Philadelphia Eagles?


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[Assistant] This is where I get off the billy train. Uh, I gotta go with the bills.


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[Assistant] I think you're underselling how good the pass offense is in Philadelphia.


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[Assistant] I will take the bill. All right. We've talked five minutes on what you're doing. We talked five minutes, but Billy, let me ask you a question. Why, why did this Eagles team struggle and don't say the short week? Cause I didn't play the fourth quarter last week and I asked what put in the Steelers.


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[Assistant] The first fumble of Jalen Hurts, uh, the season. The team, the entire team.


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[Assistant] Al Michael's made the distinction DAWG dogfight. So it's not to be confused with Mike Vick and his issues back in the day.


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[Assistant] He's the grandpa of thanksgiving. He's so old that he gives zero.


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[Assistant] People are saying, people are saying, people are saying. Billy go ahead, explain that one.


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[Assistant] Well, it was a full house, I believe. I think part of the issue is, and we heard this early on in the Amazon broadcast at the beginning of the season, that the sound isn't quite right, that you can't hear the crowd noise. There are a ton of Eagles fans there and they were all cheering.


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[Assistant] We can hear our boss, Eric K, driving off a bridge right now, listening to this.


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[Assistant] I have a question for Billy. So Billy, clearly AJ Brown is the best offseason acquisition. Is Chauncey Gardner Johnson number two?


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[Assistant] So his, uh, last four interceptions coming into the game was tied for the NFL league. Now he leads the league. Obviously the last five interceptions have come in the last four games. So he's doing something right.


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[Assistant] This is a great one for them. On the road short week is Billy likes to say, even though they didn't play the last quarter in the Steelers game, they still won 29-17. It was tied at halftime.


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[Assistant] And so, not to rub salt in the wound, Breeze, but when you look back at the Monday night game.


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[Assistant] That's an example of a team that should be better than they are, not showing up. And I'm not being a jerk, I'm being serious. The bingles.


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[Assistant] No, the timing ended up being right, but that's sort of the whole point of the football outsiders thing from back in the day. You beat bad teams soundly. Like there's no, there's no confusion.


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[Assistant] And the, I mean, look, the Browns played the best game they played all season in that win. But the, the Bengals, I think, Breach, you would argue, wouldn't argue that that was their worst game of the season as well.


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[Assistant] And to be fair, Joe Burrow had just come off surgery and lost 20 pounds. This is true.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna ask a question about Davis Mills. Are you guys ready to hear it? No. Sure.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this Breach, since you haven't been talking very much, people in the chat are worried that you're being too quiet.


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[Assistant] The Texans have, as we sit here, the number two pick and the number nine pick, thanks to the Sean Watson trade with the Browns. After seeing Davis Mills by Billy, are we having a quarterback conversation or is Davis Mills the guy?


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[Assistant] I was asking Breach because he didn't get a chance to talk, but you can interrupt him. I'll shut up. Go ahead, Brinton. No, no, you talk. You answer the question, I'll drink.


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[Assistant] That is split. Some people think that Davis Mills is okay, including Billy, and some people think that Davis Mills is not the answer.


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[Assistant] One thing quickly before you finish though, Davis Mills is on the four year contract because he's at the olympic.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so you don't have a, it's your option. So you gotta hurry that process up as well.


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[Assistant] My only issue with that, not you saying in particular, people say it all the time, well we don't need it, we'll wait a year.


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[Assistant] You don't know what the hell is going to happen next year. I mean, we talked about the tank for two a thing that didn't work out and then did work out. You just don't know. I get it. But so, um,


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[Assistant] Four years. You get Kenny Pickett. Yes. Uh, or Zach Wilson. Davis, Davis Mills is 32nd in value per play coordinate football outsiders. And you know, to breach his point, it's not entirely his fault. It just measures your, what you do on a per play basis base compared to all the other quarterbacks. He's just behind Joe Flacco, just ahead of Carson Wentz. And he's just ahead of God, Jesus, Mac Jones. That hurts. So I mean,


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[Assistant] I get it. I, I, you know, JLC I think wrote in the Washington Post that the Texas don't love.


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[Assistant] Davis Mills, but I've heard that they're okay with them as well, so I don't know where they're coming down on it. Breeches, it seems like you're willing to wait and see.


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[Assistant] Okay. All right, I was just wandering. One position at the side of the radar, running back. Damian Pierce is awesome. Fourth round pick, and now Michael's mentioned this.


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[Assistant] Talking to Herb, uh, Herbie on the, on the old show there. How'd he last in the fourth round? Well, it's because he's a running back and that's, that's literally it. Like it's sometimes just so hard to tell and they're, they're, you know, we say it all the time, half joking, but also half serious. They're, they're interchangeable.


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[Assistant] And, you know, Damien Pierce, uhm, trying to think last year.


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[Assistant] Who's the first running back? Oh, it was Brice Hall and, and, um, Ken Walker, the third, both won the second round.


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[Assistant] And both those guys are incredibly dynamic. Unfortunately, Preece got hurt. Uh, Damian Pierce is in that same conversation. He just happened to go in the fourth round and we see guys that go on day three frequently come out and have good seasons, whether you're one or you're two. So it's not that uncommon, but great find by the Texans and he's, he's been spectacular.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's awesome. So here's, here's a fun fact from the CBS Research Department. Coming into this game, Damian Pearce was average. Let me, I'll ask you this. How many ERs do you think Damian Pearce averaged before contact coming into this game?


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[Assistant] Like how far did he get after the ball was handed off to him before he was touched by a player on the other team?


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[Assistant] That ranks 52nd out of 53 qualified rushers. I can only imagine that Nadja Harris is 53.


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[Assistant] Actually, he had 539 rushing yards coming into this game, which is 12th most of the NFL. He added 139 to that. And, um, he actually, I tell you what, he got beyond two feet this time, uh, against the, um, the Eagles. And as Billy noted, it probably had something to do with Jordan Davis not being there, but credit to him and credit to, uh, pep Hamilton.


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[Assistant] Do you know who the Steelers interviewed for their offensive coordinating job?


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[Assistant] And let me, let me throw another fun fact at you. He's averaging, coming into this game, let's go down a little bit after this game, but coming into the game, he had 94.1 reception yards per game. The second most by an Eagles player in a season. Who was number one?


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[Assistant] I was gonna say Deshaun Jackson or Jeremy Macklin. Those are two good guesses. Breech, do you have a guess? Uh, Terrell Owens. You looked at the paper.


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[Assistant] I see the hole. I see where it's falling out. Okay. He's gotta get, get to the appointment. I have a hat.


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[Assistant] Alright, I'll ask one more question and we can bonk out of there. Out of here if we want.


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[Assistant] Breach, how confident do you feel in your Princeton Sucks hat that Lovey Smith will not suffer the same fate as David Cully and get fired after one season?


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[Assistant] I love how you put your name in small print. Brady Quinn Football Show with Will Brinson. If you're watching on YouTube, you can see the Brady Quinn Football Show t-shirts with Will Brinson. Great job, Louis. Louis comes through time and time again.


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[Assistant] Hopefully it's the easy. I was trying to do the math. You know, I asked my 11 year old all the time. This is my, my roommate used to ask me this in college as a philosophy major and he was just, he was crazy. And I lived with him a little bit afterwards in Boston when I was set to college. But I asked my 11 year old this all the time and it feels like that sort of question, uh, would you rather be rich or stupid? And I had to think, I had to make sure that I was getting that right. Uh, yeah, I think the Eagles breach is my answer.


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[Assistant] And for the record, I'd rather be rich, by the way. Oh wait, yes, rich.


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[Assistant] Attractive and idiotic? Like that's a question, would you rather be smart and ugly or attractive and stupid? Attractive and stupid all day long. Trust me, I know.


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[Assistant] Not much, man. I'm just trying to get over all the action. All the action that, uh, that we got on the NFL trade deadline. A lot of action on deadline day and, uh, the week leading up to it. Usually the NFL doesn't get this much action, you know?


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[Assistant] Some guys are taking their talents to South Beach, if you know what I mean. I think it's a big move.


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[Assistant] That's right. I'll be a lot of chub there on South Beach.


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[Assistant] I just think it's hilarious if you look at the Dolphins, what they were a year ago under Brian Flores, and he didn't want stars.


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[Assistant] I think those three guys on any team would help propel them to the edge.


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[Assistant] You cut out and so I'm going to assume who's the fourth best team. I don't know if you said the NFC.


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[Assistant] Uh, let me think. You're obviously going to start off with who's number one right now. It's Philly. After that, it's Slim Pickens. Maybe the Minnesota Vikings, I'd say, even though some people feel like they haven't been tested at least since their win over the Green Bay Packers in week one. Um, outside of that, the Rams and the Bucks, two of the favorites, they've looked awful. Do you want to finish your question there, Will?


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[Assistant] Yeah, honestly, I don't know really where you got cut off either. I was assuming you're asking who's the fourth best team. Was that the NFL or NFC?


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[Assistant] I think it's the Bills too. I don't know if it's easily. I think they're a tough, I think the Eagles are a tough matchup schematically for what they do. But I'll go ahead and say the Bills are right there with you. I actually would say that right next to the Bills, I'll put the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Well, I'll put it this way, like how far apart are the Titans and, and Philly?


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[Assistant] It's, it's like 12 and a half or 11 and a half. It's absurd. Like that's a playoff team. Not only is they gonna win the AMC South, they're a playoff team.


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[Assistant] I mean, but that's where the line sits at. So I, I think I'm kind of there with you. I just think it's, it's tough to think that, I don't know, like Philly's one of those teams that they look great. Uh, they're schematically tough to prepare for because the way they can run the football, how hurts adds to that. And obviously they're receivers, they have speed, they have ability of size.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I mean, honestly, I think they're looking back at that decision, probably regretting it right now, looking at what the passing game looks like. But, look at 12 and a half, 12 and a half points.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's what I'm saying. You can't tell me that Vegas wouldn't put the Eagles at, at a minimum. Five and a half?


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[Assistant] I mean, what was the last we pretended on? It was just a sickness. It's not like you thought that was gonna last two weeks, right?


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[Assistant] I mean, I know he was battling an ankle injury like the week before, but that was one of the assumptions. It was just a sickness.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's right. Where you just can't get off the pot, you know? You're just stuck there all day playing video games on the, on the pot.


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[Assistant] I think, I think Minnesota's in the conversation. I think you might say Baltimore. You might throw in, uhm, the 49ers. Although, the 49ers have some like suspect losses though, right? Like, loser Chicago at the beginning of the year. I was like, ugh, ugh, I don't know about that.


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[Assistant] They kinda feel like, and I'll just throw out there, I'll throw this out there, they kinda feel like the Jets.


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[Assistant] So you think the Seahawks are what, worse than the Jets? Better than, where are they in ranking to the Jets?


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[Assistant] Well, I'm not willing to say that. I mean, I think they're pretty equal when you break down both teams. The difference has been Geno Smith has played better this year at quarterback. That's the bottom line.


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[Assistant] Well, first off, I believe the report I read was that like Joe Douglas even kind of spoke about it only because there were some fans chanting for Mike White.


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[Assistant] Which, look, the interceptions were bad. Here's the reality, the Jets lost Breece Hall. They trade for James Robinson. He's not up to speed yet. They, they, that, that offense was carried by the ground game.


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[Assistant] Uh, and so at some point, you know, Zach Wilson, once he gets more time with guys like, you know, Eli Moore and, and, uh, obviously Corey Davis.


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[Assistant] Well that's the interesting thing though, so like, so really just pull back the curtain.


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[Assistant] We were like, we're not gonna talk about Zack wasn't getting benched because it's the stupidest conversation ever. The Jets need to see what they have in him, they need to play him, he needs to play, he needs experience, all that stuff, right? We, we agree. But...


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[Assistant] There is something to be said for the fact that, for whatever reason, they didn't move on from Eli Moore. And if the guy's that disgruntled now, how do you think things are going to play out with Rahm the rest of the year if he's not getting the ball and not getting touches?


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[Assistant] And there is some times where like, you know, just the way a guy moves his routes, everything else, like it just doesn't mesh, you know, with, with how you see and being able to connect with that guy, having that sort of chemistry. There's just some guys that are like that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then that happens sometimes with quarterback play. I don't know if it's that. I think it's just, you know, maybe those two need to get on the same page a bit more. They need to figure out some ways of getting more, some easy touches, getting more involved in the game early on.


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[Assistant] Maybe that helps. Whatever the case may be. The bottom line was, if you go back to last week, turnovers were the biggest issue. They looked bad. Like those were bad interceptions. You clean those up, I don't know that, you know, you're, you're looking at Zach Wilson the same way. So.


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[Assistant] Whatever that came from, you're not benching him anytime soon. He needs to play the rest of the season.


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[Assistant] You have to know what you have in you, especially if things don't go well the rest of the season.


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[Assistant] I don't disagree with that. You know, I do think there has to be a longer term look here, even though you've had some surprising success. And because I think if you're looking at the roster, you're looking at the performance and how things have played out, you're probably saying to yourself, what's our weak spot?


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[Assistant] And you're probably saying it's quarterback position, right? And, and at that point you go, okay, how do we build around this to make it sustainable at this point? Uh, as well goes to shut his blinds to, uh, to block the sun, something that he's not familiar with, but that's the reality of this is, is you took it, took a hit. Um, it's too bright in here.


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[Assistant] But, but that's the reality of it, right? Is like, you're looking at saying, alright, what do we have in our quarterback spot? If not, you know, then we can make a decision after the season, but you have to see what you have in him right now.


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[Assistant] This can't be so much about 2022. This has to be more about 2023 draft and beyond to know exactly where you stand going into it, especially considering what your record could be. Uhm, I think that's gonna be.


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[Assistant] Right, I think it's, but it's after the buy. They have Buffalo this week gonna buy, and then they come out of that. Uhm, but trust me, I know the schedule at this point because so many people have just kind of hard-hunted over now.


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[Assistant] Trust me, like, like they're, they're, they only were favored in the first nine games, okay? One time, one time, alright? At home, somehow, versus backup, or excuse me, versus backup quarterback, they were favored finally. Uh, versus Denver, that was out.


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[Assistant] Okay, let me throw this, let me throw this out there though because we're venturing here.


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[Assistant] Joe Flock is the most experienced. He had an unbelievable comeback win versus Cleveland.


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[Assistant] First off, uh, they, again, they have more issues than just the quarterback spot. Everyone tends to point to the quarterback spot. You know, a lot of that loss is, is hurting them. Resol, that hurts them. I think they'll be fine once James Robinson gets going. But again,


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[Assistant] The talk of benching, it's the stupidest thing in the world. You let them play it out, see how things fall, you reevaluate after the season. That's where this is going. But, it doesn't change the fact that the Jets weren't a player.


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[Assistant] In the deadline for, you know, for the NFL trade deadline. I was shocked by that. I really thought they would try to make a move or do something at this point. And you're smirking right now. Only God knows what you're thinking in your head.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is like a big thing for us apparently. Uhm, okay, so I think the fourth best team, right now,


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[Assistant] It's probably Minnesota. It has to be, right? And with the addition of T.J. Hawkinson, that to me can be a game changer for him, right? Irv Smith goes down, he's gonna miss 12 weeks. The tight end position hadn't really been big for them anyway, uhm, if you look at how they were targeting things.


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[Assistant] It's a huge get for them. I mean, if you look at Kevin O'Connell's offense and how it's built, the outside zone running scheme is a huge piece of it. The tight end either at the point of attack and blocking or even just being able to release off of that for boots, move the puck. He's baby kittles. He's baby kittles.


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[Assistant] He's, he's going to be an element of that. The difference is...


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[Assistant] It's hard to not look anywhere other than Justin Jefferson first.


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[Assistant] But, look, it's a huge git, and I think it's one that helps legitimize, I think, what the Minnesota Vikings are. Their defense is still evolving.


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[Assistant] And their offense has been the most consistent piece, no doubt. Uhm, and so that was one that like, I look at them, I think they're the fourth best team. And I think that's a tough place to play. And I think as he gets more ingrained in the offense, that's going to be a tough team to stop.


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[Assistant] I mean, think about it. You're gonna get some games flexed at the end of the season that are important. They only have, I think, one in the second half of the year, like a Thursday night game. That's it. That's the only prime time. They have some four o'clock starts, but that's it.


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[Assistant] So you have to imagine they're going to get flexed at some point. And that's been the history for Kirk, Kirk Cousins. He hasn't played well in primetime. I don't know if it's, here's circadian rhythms off. I'm not sure what you attribute it to.


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[Assistant] I don't even notice that so much. Maybe it's just the fact that, you know, they just haven't played well. You know, just a weird odd occurrence. But that being said.


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[Assistant] I think that's the biggest concern. Like, they kind of look at him and go, ah, it's Kirk Cousins' prime time. I mean, ask Pete Prisco. He gets that glazed look over his face. He gets that glazed look. And he just goes,


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[Assistant] Oh god, that guy. He gets so mad now because on Big Noon Kickoff, and it started off as me trying to say things, cause he always goes, it was actually a trick that he never picked up on.


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[Assistant] Let me finish. So really the inside joke was I was, cause he would say, Hey, I watched the show and be like, Oh, okay. Do you, do you.


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[Assistant] So then I would start to like use some of his catchphrases to see if he would then at some point pick out on that. So for example, that loser at one point, I think I had said that to Clay Travis when we were going back and forth, giving him a hard time. I was like, you were a loser.


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[Assistant] And then Pete was like, oh my gosh, you're stealing my material. What are you doing? All this stuff. And I was like, there you go. He actually does watch from time to time. I don't even think he watches though. I think he actually just finds the clips on social media and then he like, ah, you did it again.


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[Assistant] Well, Fire in the Belly, I would definitely try to get it at some point. Uhm, and I'll see if he notices. The loser one we got in for Clay Travis, I got another one, oh, the Pison Passion, we got that in for, uh,


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[Assistant] All I know is that this week, just look for fire in the belly. I'm already, I'm already putting like in my head how this is going.


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[Assistant] They're ranked 7th, and with their resume considering what they've done so far, it's crazy. How it's set up right now, they are guaranteeing the SEC gets two teams in the playoff. Like there's no other way of looking at it.


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[Assistant] With Tennessee at number one, even if they lose this week to Georgia, that's probably their only loss. Georgia goes to the SEC Championship game as an undefeated team. If they win it, obviously they get in the playoff. Maybe Tennessee does too as a non-division, non-converse champion winner with one loss.


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[Assistant] Uhm, or let's just say Georgia goes on. They lose to Bama in the SEC championship game.


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[Assistant] Bama goes in, Georgia's only loss is to Alabama in the SC Championship game like last year, then they go in.


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[Assistant] So there's just like all these different scenarios where however you play it out, the SEC is going to get two in purely because of how they rank these first two rankings, assuming Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, all of them take care of business for the most part with the exception of this upcoming rescan.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, we do call him Peter from every once in a while. More Chris Assel calls him Peter.


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[Assistant] Well, Boo actually literally made that statement discussing the fact of why Alabama's ranked sixth on YTCU seven.


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[Assistant] Understood, but okay, last year Georgia and Bama went, Georgia lost the SEC Championship game, still went.


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[Assistant] But I still think even in that case, you would have to head-to-head over Tennessee if you were to beat them this week. So it would be within the criteria.


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[Assistant] It's a play-in game for either one of those two teams. Whoever wins, I would make the case they're automatically in the playoff.


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[Assistant] And I think it's, it's obviously, and it's really because of


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[Assistant] Right, you're assuming both Tennessee and Norton neither lose at any point. They're both undefeated, right? So that's the biggest key. But if they were to put Ohio State at one, I think it then leaves the door open to say, okay, you could drop


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[Assistant] Tennessee at two or Georgia at two, whoever they put after that, you could probably drop them out of the top five. Now you look at it and you go, all right, Tennessee's at one. If they lose the Georgia's the three team, the country, the country right now, then I drop in past five. All right. That's probably the best loss you'd say.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so if that's the case, they're going to five, and then they just sit there, keep winning football games, and then wait till Ohio State and Michigan play itself out, and then Clemson, you know, potentially plays itself in or out, and then whatever happens between Alabama and Georgia, who would obviously be a part of that conversation at that point. So, they're getting two in for sure. That's what this, this, this told me.


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[Assistant] The ACC is the most overrated conference in the college football playoff rankings. Like, first off, Clemson, who has played Notre Dame this week, we'll see what happens with that game.


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[Assistant] But after them, alright, you look at you go, alright, who really should be


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[Assistant] You really did it to be an O? I mean, some people would say that at that point, it's, it's Tonya.


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[Assistant] Either someone drummed up some blackmail on Dan Schneider after it was reported that he was, had some private investigators, like, which by the way, I just, I just like look.


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[Assistant] I'm like trying to see what it'd be like to all these guys in trench coats to be like falling around these owners of NFL teams. Hey, what are you, what are you doing? You know, they got that little, the glasses with the nose and the mustache. There's falling them all around. Oh, nothing, nothing. Just reading the newspaper.


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[Assistant] People cut onto it pretty quick and they're like, hey, Danny boy, we've got some stuff on you, pal. So why don't you just, you know, push this aside. Look, this, we'll do this for you.


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[Assistant] We need to build a new stadium there. We need to have a presence there in DC that's not this crap hole that you had piping and sewage leaking or whatever it was last year at some point in time that stadium.


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[Assistant] We, we need to have a new stadium. So we'll help you figure out a way of getting this done, but you're going to have to sell the team. And when you do that, you're going to make billions for the sale and we'll let the, we'll make all this stuff go away.


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[Assistant] It had to have been that. That's really the only explanation behind all of this.


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[Assistant] And, and a newspaper. You always have to remember, they're out there reading newspapers. Like it's 1982.


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[Assistant] By the way, I love how the XFL came out with the defenders and people were like, better team name.


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[Assistant] It's like, dang it! How'd we get stuck with the commanders? Like, what happened there?


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[Assistant] Defenders, just yeaah, sounds better. And everyone's like, that does sound better.


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[Assistant] That, I mean yea, to your point, there has to be more to the story.


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[Assistant] Maybe it was Jerry Jones, you know, cause remember he was kind of his advocate, where Eruse came out strong and Jerry Jones was like, ah, I don't know about all that, you know, you guys talk about media and hit this, this and that, you know.


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[Assistant] I'm just trying to walk around in my official's costume for Halloween and not get fined, okay? Which-


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[Assistant] Uhm, he's got deniability. He's to the age where technically...


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[Assistant] Well, I, I still think we're tapping into what Justin Fields does best. Like people have made him out to be this inaccurate quarterback.


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[Assistant] Which you go back to the time he was at Ohio State, like he's, he's not an inaccurate thrower or passer of the football.


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[Assistant] It's just, he's on an offense that unfortunately it makes him look that way because his margin of error is so minimal. He's got to throw balls in spots where either his guy gets it or no one does. Otherwise he's putting that ball. It's going to be subject to being intercepted.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and as bad as their defense has been at times, you can't do that and think you're going to have any chance of winning.


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[Assistant] He's going to be a big body target for downfield off of a lot of the running game stuff they do. And it allows, I think Darnell Mooney to open up things underneath. It allows things to be more open for Cole Comet. I think it takes some pressure off of, um, you know, those guys in particular. So.


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[Assistant] It's an interesting move, uhm, I think in part because if you look at the swap of picks, uhm, that pick is most likely going to be one that, where he was drafted was actually, uhm, I think it was-


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[Assistant] Right. And, and that's, you know, and you're going to have to pay them at some point too. The other interesting thing to it is like, if you're Ryan Poles, you're getting rid of these veteran defensive players, Rokhan, cause you guess you couldn't get a deal, maybe didn't value them to that point, or deal was too good to be true, whatever they say.


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[Assistant] Robert Quinn, veteran guy, you get some value back for him too, same thing.


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[Assistant] So it looks like you're rebuilding and then you go trade away one of your second round picks to then bring in a wide receiver. It's just, it's kind of confusing. It's like, where are we? Like, hey, we want to rebuild, but we also at the same time want to provide Justin Fields more help.


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[Assistant] Um, I kind of see both sides of it, but I feel like usually you can't dip your toe in. You gotta jump in if you're taking on that F them pick strategy. And, uh, I feel like the bears are somewhere in the middle of it.


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[Assistant] Some would say though that like was, their defense was still bad even with Roko on Smith. He's the leading tackler, but like they're still bad against the run. So like what, like if you're going to be the worst in the league or one of the worst, what does it matter if you're a few spots worse?


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[Assistant] Well, cause, cause if, I mean, again, if you, if you're gonna.


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[Assistant] Wait, then it looks at number of snaps, et cetera, and scheme, and like, they don't want to have to go into that realm. And on top of that, you know, it's kind of interesting. The franchise tag has been a great tool for a lot of voters to keep players they want kind of dragged it on and delay having to pay them.


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[Assistant] Can we, can we not talk about the most surprising trade though? I mean, Calvin Ridley traded to the Jaguars. How amazing. I mean, I just, I was like, really?


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[Assistant] Jacksonville should be good next year. If Ridley gets reinstated, he's your one. You have Kirk.


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[Assistant] Travis Etienne in the backfield. You also have Zay Jones. Like that's a solid group. Uhm, and it's, it's a huge year for Trevor Lawrence's evaluation. I know he's kind of being consistent this year, but you know, that's still like a work in progress coming together. Like to think that that was going to come together, they're going to be competitive in the AFC South. It's, it's honestly kind of disrespectful to Tennessee Titans. Like I have to be real about it.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think I might have picked the Colts or Titans as one of those two, but I thought that would be right.


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[Assistant] Look, there was no chance I was going to pick anyone other than either the Colts or Titans. At this point, I think I had them right there, but I had them both as playoff teams. The one where I was wrong was the Colts. Like, clearly that was just awful. And by the way,


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[Assistant] Like, I'm still trying to make sense of how Marcus Brady's not a scapegoat getting fired, yet he doesn't call the plays and say, well, so what happened then? That has to be way more to that story in Indianapolis.


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[Assistant] Well, at some point we talked about Ryan gets benched, you bring in Sam Mellinger, he plays one game. By the way, played pretty well. I mean, if Michael Pittman catches the deep ball at the very end of the game.


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[Assistant] Maybe they end up winning? That was a perfect pass. I don't know that that's a play calling issue. By the way, Frank Reich's calling the plays. So the whole thing's just a little confusing. Like is he filling the heat from Erse just to make a move to make a move?


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[Assistant] He's like that tree. He's leaning on him. Just like that tree.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, is, is Devo Samuel part of that group or no?


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[Assistant] Plus maybe that's their ultimate plan. You know, they, they, that he, he actually first saw San Francisco trading for Christian McCaffrey, who then becomes more of a gadget guy than Debo Samuel. Debo Samuel gets frustrated, he's not getting more touches, and he finds his way back to New England for a discount.


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[Assistant] State degree, yes, state college education.


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[Assistant] So like, would I say the Bills are a better team?


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[Assistant] Theoretically, like you'd think that Bradley Chubb does help improve that Dolphins defense. I'm more excited about Jeff Wilson being there. Like I just think like, oh my God.


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[Assistant] Dude, that next to him next to Raheem, uh, Raheem Mostert and Waddle and Tyreek Hill. It's like, I can't wait to watch it. The problem is, and we had this conversation, I had this conversation with Pete yesterday. It's like, what happens when the weather gets bad?


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[Assistant] Is this team still going to be like as fast? And is that, it's like, can you, can this sustain itself throughout the entire NFL season? Like it can't when the weather's nice and it will be not always nice in Miami, but I go to Buffalo.


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[Assistant] I'll just put it this way. The Bradley Chubb thing to me doesn't really matter. Like I'm excited about it. I think it will add an impact to him. This team just needs Tua to stay healthy. They need him to stay healthy from start to finish and play out because as great as this year has been for Mike McDaniel year one and even Tua when he started to be able to finish a game.


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[Assistant] There's still an element of like the future here. Like you're still building this team for the future. That's good. I mean, they look, they beat Buffalo head to head, you know, maybe they'll split with them and then they'll lose the next one.


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[Assistant] This team is, is still trying to build itself to be something that we look at and say, okay, it's not just the Bills and Chiefs now scoring off in the AFC. It's the Bengals too. It's the Dolphins too. It's all these quarterbacks that we thought would be those guys. They're the guys and they build around them. I think it's, I think it's more interesting though.


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[Assistant] That they, the Dolphins made that move. And if you go back and think about how Brian Flores left, it was a kind of a power struggle between him and Chris Greer.


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[Assistant] And so Chris, Chris Greer is almost kind of putting it all out there and being like, you don't want star players? Well, I did. You didn't believe in Tua Tonga Valoa? Well, I didn't. I brought in a coach who did. And guess how this looks now. And you're on a team that's really bad. So.


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[Assistant] I almost feel like it has a little bit of that to do with it too. Like Chris Greer is kind of proving like, look what I've done. Look at the guys I drafted. Look what can happen when you bring in someone who believes in these guys, what they're capable of. So I kind of appreciate the job Chris Greer has done, like putting this whole thing together.


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[Assistant] Her hips don't lie. I mean, so a lot of the decisions were made based on Shakira's hips, which should be a difficult question.


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[Assistant] There you have it. I think we're done here. I think, uh, he brought a Shakira. Her hips don't lie. So, uh, I don't think he'd tell a lie either. Alright. Next up is Pinocchio.


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[Assistant] He's on pace to break the single season record. It's pretty, it's pretty awesome. And thinking about it, by the way, he'll, he'll, I mean, granted, I don't, is that, is that fact she's in a 17th game though, if I'm not mistaken?


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[Assistant] He's the only one who would pick 17, I guess Tannenhill too, but like, it's just a weird number. It's a weird number.


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[Assistant] Nick DeLone, Ryan Tannenhill, Philip River, there's only people who would pick 17.


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[Assistant] It was like a tradition in our high school. So Dublin Kauffman, like it was like passed down from quarterback to quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that tradition's kinda gotten lost though since then. I mean, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Okay, yeah, what mine? Uhm, in all seriousness though.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to think of one other trade that I wouldn't have mentioned with you, that I thought was interesting.


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[Assistant] I was like, what, what's the, what's the thought process here? You drafted James Cook in the second round. You got Devon Singletary.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I mean, like, did you just feel like Zach Moss wasn't providing any value? And that was more of a pro- I mean, I don't get it. Like, if anything, you should want James Cook to be playing more, because he's played better the more he's played. He's kind of got pessimism issues.


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[Assistant] But you had to have been watched that going, this doesn't make any sense.


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[Assistant] Oh, we're gonna talk about Breach, um, writing that article about...


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[Assistant] Well, first off, it's not John Breach, it's technically whoever owns that house, you know, has been having me dead since, I mean, I've been there for 13 years. So, like I said, apparently I've been a dead, yeah, 14 years.


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[Assistant] Well, it's technically 2022 still, we haven't like technically gone to 2023.


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[Assistant] Yeah, last year was 2009. Yeah, there's a bottom part. I actually got drafted in 07, left in 09, which it's not that shocking to think a Cleveland Browns fan wouldn't particularly know my time there because it wasn't overly significant.


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[Assistant] But also the fact that there's been so many of us, like, it kinda gets, they start to roll into each other.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, so yeaah, it's actually been 13 years. But, I digress. I'm not, it's not overly surprising either that Breach would write an article like that. Like, knowing Breach now, uh, and looking back on it. Like, I always said to myself when I first got into this, I was like,


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[Assistant] Pretty much everyone in the media industry is a bunch of d-bags. You have to take with a grain of salt and just realize that, you know, they're good people. Deep down, they're good people.


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[Assistant] I know you guys well enough to, to really like look at and just go, that's okay. They probably needed that.


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[Assistant] They probably needed to write that in order to make money back then.


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[Assistant] Well, my thing is that, look, as an athlete, you're always, and I've said this a thousand times, you're always hard on yourself than anyone else is.


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[Assistant] So it just becomes someone has to write it because that's their job. Like that's the position that you're in. That's why you're compensated for it. Uh, it's, it doesn't, it never affected me what people wrote because it's like, look, they got to do the job. That's my job to play better. So, you know, they don't write things like that. Um, I, I do tend to think that they're, and the more I've gotten into this business more, I've felt this way.


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[Assistant] And that's where I think athletes, coaches could do a better job of, of being able to build personal relationships. So they see the more human side behind things, you know?


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[Assistant] Hold on, fine. My first question is, you were moonlighting as a blogger while you were working at the White House?


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[Assistant] I don't know about that, or nor do I care about suing him, but I just want to know, because Wyatt to me is the most interesting. Like he's the most interesting of everyone. Outside of the fact that Breach went solo to a Britney Spears concert, which still to this day I'm like, what? That's kind of creepy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, it was 2004, I was the only Steelers blogger on the internet. See, so I wasn't in the, I wasn't even in the NFL yet, so I don't know.


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[Assistant] Like I actually have to go into work after this and still continue to do work. Meanwhile, I don't like you'll do something for maybe five, 10 minutes.


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[Assistant] I said it earlier, I said it again, Ryan Wilson is still the most interesting person on the Pick 6 podcast. Okay, small sample size, but sure.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Big Six Podcast, CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Will Benson. I'm your host. It's time for some week 13 best bets. Join me to do those to give out our best bets. Pete Prisco and RJ White. What's up boys?


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, on Sundays Pete hangs out in the green room.


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[Assistant] I watched this football with one of our newest colleagues. We're Vikings GM Rick Spielman. You know what Rick does during the week now? That's right. Ryan Wilson wasn't doing enough work. Really? They said that they're like, Ryan, you're not doing enough work. You needed to do something else. So we're going to give you a podcast.


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[Assistant] With the first pick is a new NFL draft podcast hosted by Wilson and long time NFL GM Rick Spielman. And you can watch episodes on this YouTube channel. If you want to get that subscribed, turn on alerts. You'll get notified when they come up. I watched the first one, the entire first one. It was fantastic. Really? I mean, yeah, Wilson, a much better host.


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[Assistant] So yea, we'll, we'll be airing those videos, the podcast on this YouTube channel for a little while. I'm assuming they'll probably start their own one eventually. Um, when we get closer to the draft, you can watch those here, or if you were an audio person only, go and search with the first pick on any podcast platform. Uh, if you're a listener of the Pixix podcast, theoretically, maybe you hate Wilson, if that's the case, don't go support him. But yeah, like Ryan Wilson, go, uh, go subscribe to that. I'm a guy of bone and, uh, and help them out. Um, Pete 41.


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[Assistant] He's, yeah. And, and Wilson has been working with me for like, I mean.


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[Assistant] Also, I should point out that we still have a QR code next to Pete's.


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[Assistant] Furry head up there in the corner of the, uh, the, the YouTube thing. You gotta point the other way. There you go. Um, if you scan that QR code, you can go by pick six podcast gear.


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[Assistant] We actually have a pair of joggers on there. Men's joggers. Only 40 bucks. That's not a bad price. We're gonna get you some Pixix Pod Guys joggers. We're at the pod out in the wild. Uh, and also we should point out that, um, Billy is in the chat. If you're here, uh, when we do our live shows over the next few weeks, we're giving away Paramount Plus gift cards. Free month of Paramount Plus. It's a great streaming service.


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[Assistant] P plus get the chat. Uhm, if we get to a certain number of likes bill, you'll give away. He's handling all that business in there. We're going to hit the like button if you're in the chat right now or if you're watching later.


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[Assistant] Uh, overall, I'm, I'm two games below 500. You guys are, I'm not going to catch y'all. Uh, Peach 14 games above 500. RJ 7, 16, 17 games above 500 on the season. Uh, it would be awesome if we all had winning records on best bets for the full season.


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[Assistant] Let's, uh, let's get to the games. We start heavyweight matchup.


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[Assistant] And I don't just mean like two good teams, I mean heavyweights, like two just...


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[Assistant] Big heavyweight prizefighters slinging at each other. Titans at the Eagles. We have Eagles minus five. It's actually dipped down half a point. A total here, Pete, forty-four and a half.


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[Assistant] Man, I just think, yeah, when I said heavyweights, what I meant was like just two teams that are like, love to smack you in the mouth. I do think that the, uh, that the, you know, the concern about the affiliate run defense is for real. They needed Jordan Davis back. Uh, I think he started practicing this week. I don't think he's supposed to play this week.


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[Assistant] You know, even if, even if he's practicing, that would make a huge difference. Just his ability to, uh, to clog with the middle. Adding Sue has been very helpful.


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[Assistant] It's, it's a lot of points. I'm going to take the Eagles against the spread. Don't feel great about it, especially with you guys going best bet on the Titans. Um, it's not a best bet for me. I just think Jalen Hirsch is playing really good football right now. Um, and as much as like Philly would, you know, they want to run, but they're willing to pass all over you. And plus, you know what, you know what we got going on in this spot.


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[Assistant] Alright, well we'll fire it up, we'll see. Alright, Eagles on the Moneyline, AJ Brown, Revenge Game, uh, that's the number one parlay. We'll see if we can put it together.


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[Assistant] So I'll take the Eagles on the money line as the first leg of the revenge game parlay if we can get there. I know we got at least one more option.


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[Assistant] But, uh, I'm on the, yeah, on the eagles. I don't, I don't blame it for the titans plus five. This could be a fairly close game. Titans like to compress the games a lot.


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[Assistant] Thing right there, right on the screen. It says 1 PM. It's Kirk Cousins happy hour.


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[Assistant] Do you think the, I mean, the Jets do know that like they can't, I mean, do you, I mean, I agree with going to Mike White. Obviously it was the right move. I mean, maybe they should have gone to boot at the beginning of the season. Um, I set the over-under for Zach Wilson starts the rest of the year at 0.5, which take the over-under.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying, like, I think there's a chance that, I mean, we get a pumpkin performance from, from Mike White. So I mean, Mike White's a 27 year old, you know, like,


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[Assistant] Journey Manish quarterback? Like, I mean, it's, it's, it would be a surprise if he magically was the guy to get the Jets over the hump and into the playoffs or, you know, I mean, we'll see.


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[Assistant] And then Buffalo's, Buffalo is a tough game. You know, you're at Buffalo.


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[Assistant] Um, it's a one o'clock game, but you know, you've got to go into, into Buffalo to play against a really good Bill's defense. Like if, if they lose these two games and my quiet is just average or below average, I think you can easily make the case. You go back to the lot, you go back to Zach Wilson against the lions, knowing that they don't have a very good defense and it's, you know, Jared, Jared golf outdoors. And then you get the Jaguars at home and Oh God, in prime time, um, who just


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, no best bet for me here. Uh, I would, I think there's a chance we see, uhm.


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[Assistant] A nice game. I really do think Zonovan Knight could have a nice game. I think he's a great fit in that system and, and it's a good runner. Yeah, he's a good runner. Explosive runner as well. So, uh, give me the over Zonovan Knight rushing yards. That'll give me a proper take. Steelers right as one.


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[Assistant] Steelers, Steelers minus one at the Falcons, over under 42. Pretty, uh, pretty smelly game here, Pete, just in terms of, unless it's on CBS, then it's a great game. Uhm, Pittsburgh. My favorite, what do you think?


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[Assistant] You have something, you see that a lot in college football where, because you just have so many different styles of offenses where you have like a triple option, you know, it's coming to town and, and you know, if you have a short week in college, you have to prep for a triple option.


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[Assistant] It's a really dangerous spot, and I think with the way that Atlanta runs that offense and all the weird stuff they do in that run game, that could be a problem for Pittsburgh. I think that's a great point, Pete.


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[Assistant] Uhm, uh, nothing here for me. I'm just thinking about Falcons, but I'm gonna pass. Commanders minus two at the Giants over under 40 and a half. This line is creeped up to two and a half. I would not be surprised if it went up to three. This is such a massive spot, uh, for the NFC playoff race and


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[Assistant] When you look at it, it is so unfortunate for the Giants how this three, next three weeks sets up because they, these two teams play each other and since week 13 they play each other in week 15 as well.


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, chase young, uh, Ron Rivera said on, um,


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[Assistant] You know, you just don't, you know, it's, you see the, there's more close games than ever in the history of the league. And so if you're taking the points, uh, a lot of times that can be beneficial. I got the commanders is the best bet too.


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[Assistant] I think Brad Dibble's done a great job. Giants have outperformed anybody's expectations for them this season. Uh, at the same time, you know, I think they are, the Cinderella story is kind of ending a little bit. Maybe, you know, we referenced the pumpkin, like, you know, you could see them starting to slow down as the season wears on and, um, you know, with injuries piling up.


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[Assistant] The commanders are just a different, like, they're a better team than they were earlier in the season. Taylor Heinecke's playing some good football. And Ron Rivera's got, like, everyone on that roster is buying into him. And I think that makes a huge difference. I mean, like, I don't want to dog-pile a car somewhere.


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[Assistant] I know. It's like all of a sudden it's just like, like, just like out of control.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I, I just, I think Washington, you know, Roberts got the defense playing them much better. I think it's a good spot for Washington. They know, like they have to know.


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[Assistant] You come in here and beat the Giants and you really take the wind out of their sails. Then they have to go play Philly, which the Giants do. And then they know they got Washington on the road in two weeks where it's like all of a sudden this possible playoff thing could be out the window. I think Ron Rivera, great spot for him. Brian Dabble, I think he's a fantastic coach as you think.


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[Assistant] Maybe just too much building up against the Giants. I'll take Commanders minus two. Broncos!


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[Assistant] Did you go to, did you go to Russell Wilson's birthday party Pete? Broncos, Ravens minus eight, hosting the Broncos total 38 and a half.


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[Assistant] Apparently he would have taken anybody there, given like that half the team showed up. But, uh, I don't know. Do you see, um.


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[Assistant] Uh, it was an interesting opening of the, the follow-up show, uh, from Tom Pelicero today. Did you see that?


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[Assistant] He just sort of circled back and listed a lot of reasons why the Broncos are losing that weren't Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] In this particular case, I wish that some of the other words that I had said on the subject would have gotten an equal attention to things about Russell Wilson. You can read between the lines. That means he got called. Yeaah, he got a call from the Colorado Area Code, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think the tease is the move to go here with Baltimore. We saw that with the Carolina game previously where it's like they can cover if they want and they, you know, they didn't, they clearly didn't want to. Um, you know, so I'd like Denver.


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[Assistant] I mean, what, what, what are you thinking if you're the Broncos? Where's your headspace? If you bought that team and you know, you're stuck with Russell Wilson, who looks just abysmal for the next three, he can't go anywhere for three years. It's insane.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm not taking the Ravens. I'm not taking the Broncos against the spread. You see it's up to eight and a half now. Uhm, I'll take the Ravens. It's not going to be a best bet. I think you guys, uh, you guys actually have the same teaser. Who if you knew that, but, um, I think that coordinating that is on his, on his teaser.


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[Assistant] I'd love that maybe. Uh, I'd watch, I'd watch Pete and RJ do a re- like a live, live, uh, live recreation of Step Brothers. It'd be fun. Do you get to hit each other with like a shovel? Drumsticks?


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[Assistant] It's unbelievable. What a savage move. Just in case the guy's coming, you gotta have something to get him back. Uh, Jaguars minus one at the Lions over under 51 and a half. Uh, Pete, you and I have been


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[Assistant] Uh, sharing a brain, as Adam Schein likes to say, uh, when it comes to some really square overs this season. And guess what? We're back on one here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, I think I agree with that on Detroit. I was looking at it myself. Uh, you got plus seven. That's a, they just, Jacksonville's defense not very good.


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[Assistant] You, you know, Detroit's defense every year. I think, so like everybody for DFS purposes will probably flock to, uh, chiefs and, uh, Bengals. I think this game is just going to be an absolute shootout on that home track for, for Detroit. I mean, Lawrence's confidence should carry over that fourth quarter could really like spark something, you know, big in him in terms of being good in November though.


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[Assistant] 2021 was a redshirt season for Trevor Lawrence. You cannot hold that season against him with Urban Meyer coaching there and all the dysfunction they had going on. This is essentially his rookie year, and he's playing like a rookie where you got some really highs, some really lows, and Doug Peterson talked about it. The light came on, and the light's always been on, but the light, he says the light's getting brighter and brighter each passing week.


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[Assistant] We could be, like, there could be a Trevor Lawrence explosion game on the horizon at some point. I think this is kind of the spot for it. It's a bad defense with an offense on the other side that can keep up. I love the over in the spot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like the, I love you over here. Um, I'm gonna have a bunch of TMS in this. I think, I just think, I think it's a sneaky, fun game to watch. I was actually, uh, I agree. I don't think this episode will be out until Friday, uh, but I was on a slow news day with Kevin Clark and he, he, we picked some games.


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[Assistant] Kevin's my friend, we're pals. Uh, we talked about a bunch of different things, but he was like, he's like, did I miss any games that you want to pick? I was like, I think Jaguars Lineage is going to be somehow like exciting. And I think this game, we're going to see a bunch of lead changes in the fourth quarter. A lot of red zone action for the Jaguars in this one.


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[Assistant] I might start Trevor Lawrence in the Millie Maker. Win a million bucks with Trevor Lawrence. How about that?


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Okay. What uh, what would your bring back be from the Jaguars for that? Kirk probably. Christian Kirk.


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[Assistant] That's a good call. Alright, look at you guys. DFS monsters. Better play it yourselves. Alright, the other leg of your teaser that you're combining with Baltimore.


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[Assistant] The other exciting game, the real heavyweight game possible revenge game for the Kansas city chiefs after the Bengals took him out last year in the play of the regular season and the playoffs. Kansas city heads to Cincinnati to play a surging Joe burrow and the Bengals offense.


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[Assistant] Chiefs minus two, the total is actually ticked up half a point. Uh, we've got it at 52 and a half. It's 53 now. Uh, and I am intrigued by that over.


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[Assistant] So, my Chrome crashed, so I had to reload it, but uhm, looking at


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[Assistant] So they were, the Bengals were 7 and 4 last year in this exact same time period. They had a week 10 buy just like they did this year. Won two games coming out of the buy and then, uhm,


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[Assistant] Burrow's final four games of the season are an absolute joke in terms of the numbers he put up.


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[Assistant] He completed 76% of his passes, 370 yards per game, 11 touchdowns, 0 interceptions, and 12, excuse me, 10.5 yards per pass attempt. Like, I don't know that we're going to get that, Joe Burrow, because that's a ridiculous thing, but like, this is where...


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[Assistant] If, if we believe that, you know, last year was not a fluke in terms of how the Bengals can play


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[Assistant] Like I think we see Joe Burrows start to crank it up a notch heading down the stretch because he knows.


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[Assistant] They have Casey, obviously at home this week.


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[Assistant] The Browns at home the following week now with Deshaun Watson, of course, at the Buccaneers, at the Patriots, Bills at home, Ravens at home.


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[Assistant] I think 4-2 is on the table if Burrow really elevates his play though. I actually took the Bengals to win the Super Bowl at 15-1. Any thoughts on that? I think you look good.


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[Assistant] I'll take the over 53 is the best bet. Yeah, that's probably chalky too. Um, or 52 and a half. Excuse me. You know, it's obviously it's a donkey play, but, and I think the way I would actually look at this, if I were, if I wanted to bet this game on Sunday.


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[Assistant] I think you kind of, I think you wait and see if they start slowly. Like the second half over is a pretty good look or a live over if the game starts out a little bit slowly. Like I think you could see some real points scored.


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[Assistant] Uh, in rapid fashion, uh, in that game. All right, let's take a quick break. And when we come back, the smelliest line on the board, the entire week's board next.


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[Assistant] The Raiders are hosting the Chargers, Pete. Oh my god, this line is getting stained!


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[Assistant] We had, uh, chargers minus one and a half. It was chargers minus two. It is now down to a pick'em.


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[Assistant] Over on Caesars, uh, we will be picking at Chargers minus one and a half. I think...


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[Assistant] That is such a ranted line and now it's even stinkier that now that it's gotten steam towards the Raiders and it's a Pick'em. What do you think about this one? Uh, Raiders sort of, you know, desperate clowning.


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[Assistant] So my cousin Cameron, stop me if I told you this. I don't think I told you this because we haven't talked since before Thanksgiving. But my cousin was at my parents' house for Thanksgiving.


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[Assistant] Uh, one of her friends, he was like, I'm going to facetime you when you're at Prince's house. He's like, and he, like, he facetimed and, uh, and asked me, he's like, Hey, do you, would you trade George Kittle for Josh Jacobs? I was like, I don't think so.


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[Assistant] Uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the chargers are giving up over the last five games, 183 rush yards per game. I mean, they're getting absolutely steamrolled in the run game. Josh Jacobs is still playing for it. I don't know if he's going to get a huge contract, but like the way he's playing, he's going to get some money. Um, man, they may even have to franchise tag him. Who knows? Uh,


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[Assistant] He's running his ass off. It's like basically like them declining to pick up his fifth year option, like sort of sparked him. Um, oh, by the way, I forgot to mention the Chiefs. That's a, that's the other second game of the revenge game parlay. Chiefs Moneyline. That's revenge. Actual revenge.


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[Assistant] Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. Josh Jacobs has, yeah, he's having a great year. A lot of carries, but that's okay. I think he goes nuts.


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[Assistant] Uh, on this Chargers run defense as well. I'd take, probably take it over on his problem. Second of the Raiders plus one and a half is the best bet. Colts at the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Jeff Saturday experiment rolls on. Cowboys minus eleven. It's actually down to ten and a half. The overs, uh, ticked up here to forty-four and a half, a full point. We've got forty-three and a half. Pete, what did you think about Jeff Saturday's clock management there? And, uh, did you think it was interesting that?


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[Assistant] A lot of people seem to be blaming Matt Ryan on a particular network, which I already used to work.


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[Assistant] Uh, doing that as well. It's weird that it went down to ten and a half and the total shooting up. Like, that's kind of surprising. I feel like, uhm.


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[Assistant] In this game, like the only way Indy pulls it off is that they just feed Jonathan Taylor and he's ripping off long runs. But I mean Dallas is pass rush man. So so so dangerous. And like I already said that Matt had a huge risk advantage. I mean Thursday to Sunday and then Monday to Sunday. And this is that is an unfair spot. Say I feel bad for Jeff Saturday, but I don't.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I got Tampa Bay's best bet, nice three and a half as well. Uhm, this is a, this is a, such a huge spot for the Bucs because you can't, you lose that game to Cleveland. You have no business losing that game to Cleveland. I mean, you got, you got fourth and 10 or whatever it was. You could be presets out there, you know, you let in Joe can catch that ball. It's just, you can't do that.


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[Assistant] And if we're going to rip Jeff Saturday, by the way, like, Hey, top balls, you got timeouts, pal. You, you got time, timeouts and Tom Brady, use your timeouts and let Tom Brady try and get in field goal range. That was crazy at the end of that game. Just letting the clock run off. I understand you don't want to give the ball to Cleveland with field goal range, but with the time remaining and the greatest quarterback in the history of football, that was like,


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[Assistant] It's a garbage division. The Bucks are in first at five and six right now. You get to six and six though.


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[Assistant] Got some quick hitters here. Uhm, I've only got, I've got two best bets on the quick hitters. That's okay. Packers at the Bears. Packers minus four and a half over under 43 and a half. Uhm, Pete, should the Packers shut down Aaron Rodgers?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, uh, when we were doing our betting trend show, I was suggesting that.


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[Assistant] If, if we thought Fields was going to come back, that you could take the, uhm, that the, take the over, the line moved while we were doing the show, actually, uh, to Green Bay minus four, the total jumped up to 43 and a half, but it's, it's come back down to 42 and a half and the Packers minus four and a half now. It sure does look like Fields is not going to play.


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[Assistant] Um, but yeaah, Bears in the over and Fields plays for sure. If he doesn't, I think I like the backers a ton. Uh, the field sink does concern me. I bet the backers at minus four because I think it'll keep moving once he's ruled out.


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[Assistant] And by the way, this could be the last time theoretically Aaron Rodgers ever plays the Bears. So you know, he's going to go out there and destroy the team that he owns.


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[Assistant] I said it could be. I don't think he will. You know what Ryan Wilson said?


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[Assistant] Ryan goes to say there's a 5.5% chance that Aaron Rodgers is back next year.


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[Assistant] He'll be the, yeaah, he's going to do one more year, then retire and then Jordan off will take over. Oh man, there's some kind of revenge going on here.


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[Assistant] I don't know which side. I don't really want to include. I don't know which side I don't want to include. Brown's right at seven at the Texans over to forty six and a half. Uhm, very small coverage map for this game. I believe on CBS not being shown in a lot of households when Deshaun Watson returns from suspension.


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[Assistant] Somehow, someway to the city where he was last played football, Houston, where he allegedly did a bunch of really terrible stuff and it's going to be a weird environment and it's going to be an interesting game to see how he plays.


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[Assistant] If you're Kevin Stefanski, would you like, it's sort of weird. Like, would you dial up like early play action and let the Sean chunk one deep and, or like, do you try to be a little more like kind of respectful of the whole thing?


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[Assistant] I mean, I think so too, especially with like, you know, ownership is like taking this like PR hit for trading for him. Like you want to make your bosses happy by dialing up some big plays. Um, all right, so we got, uh, unless we find another one, that's three games of the revenge parlay.


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[Assistant] Let's see, anything else? Uh, Dolphins? Ooh, this is an interesting one, possibly. Dolphins at 49ers. 49ers minus 4, over or under 46 and a half. Now, it's not revenge for anybody, per se, or even spite. It's no revenge.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying. It's a big game for both sides, but it's not a revenge game.


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[Assistant] I don't think the 49ers minus four is the best bet. I think it's a little stinky of a line. Uhm, and as, as Pete points out, the Dolphins defense is the one, uh, big problem there in terms of stopping the 49ers whose offense is really cooking right now. And I, I really think that we're going to see, uh, a significant and then a trickle down effect across the offensive line. Toronto Armstead's injury. That's a big one, man. Like that, you know, to, to his protection, you gotta, you know, there's, I, I think that is something-


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[Assistant] That's the matchup to watch for me, and I think that it will have a major impact, uhm, maybe across, uh, across the board.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Trevor Ford. So, I, I bet, uh, this week I bet to a offensive player of the year, not MVP, offensive player of the year at 28 to 1. I like that. The problem with that could be that...


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[Assistant] If like two, if two has a great game, like I mean, it's 28 to one again, like Tyree is like five to one. I just thought it was a nice little flyer. Like it's, I think we could see a situation where two, it's like two plays really well, but Mahomes plays really well or Hertz plays really well. And so Mahomes gets MVP and like, it's sort of like a runner up MVP.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Seahawks minus seven and a half at the Rams over under 41. Uh, this line was like four and a half or five and shot up two points with the news that Aaron Donald had a suffered a high ankle sprain after the game.


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[Assistant] Interesting. Uhm, I think you're down to play if he's healthy, but


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[Assistant] Brown's Moneyline, Eagle's Moneyline, Chief's Moneyline, pays out plus 230?