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[Assistant] It's happened multiple times. There are one in four.


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[Assistant] We don't have Brady on the run down. No, we don't. Okay. So here, here's, uh, if Brady does get the Superbowl, obviously the Buccaneers are in the playoffs with an eight and nine record. Here are your two fun facts. Uh, number one, they are the sixth team in NFL history to make the playoffs with a losing record. Two of the other ones are the Panthers.


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[Assistant] And fun fact number two is, uh, no team with a losing record has ever made it past the divisional round. Jax out.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Seahawks in 2010, the Beastquake game when they beat the Saints. Uh, the Commanders in 2020. They lost to the Vikings. Right. And then, uh, the, in 1982, their strike short in season where there were 16 teams in the playoffs and the Browns and Lions both got in with a 4-5 record.


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[Assistant] He's gonna do it. You can do it. Yeaah, that's fine. That's your money. And I, you know, Brenton the, or uh, Wilson, the Buccaneers were dominating the Bengals when they played back in December until Brady melted down the second half.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, that helps, but look, you have a bunch of, you have three divisional rematches, and so...


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[Assistant] When you look at that, the only one with a sweep was 49er Seahawk, so I'm thinking that almost everyone's gonna pick the 49ers. But look, the Bills and Dolphins split it 1-1, and granted, we don't know if 2 is gonna play.


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[Assistant] When they played in Buffalo, uh, a few weeks ago, everybody thought that the dolphins were going to get run off the field because it was freezing weather and they can't win when it's under.


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[Assistant] No, it was in Buffalo in December. It was not. It was freezing cold and the Dolphins lost by three in a game that most people thought they were going to lose by two touchdowns. And then obviously the Bengals and Ravens, uh, they split those games one to one. And so,


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[Assistant] Uh, the Ravens didn't play horrible today considering they benched a bunch of their starters and were down to their third string quarterback. So I don't think that's a gimme by any means for the Bengals. And then Buccaneers Cowboys, hey, the Cowboys, we were talking last week about who would be favored in that game. And look, the Buccaneers beat that team back in week one, the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Haven't looked great the past few weeks. And then Jacksonville Chargers, guess what? The Jags beat the Chargers 38 to 10 earlier this season. So that is, I think all these games are fascinating except for Seahawks 49ers, but that feels a little bit fascinating just because Brock Purdy in the playoffs. And as I've said, rookie quarterbacks struggle in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Talking about heartstrings here. I'm going to do the Jaguars. Plus Jacksonville is currently a one point underdog. That point to half. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I think I, uh, like I, I've just, I don't think it's an absolute walk. I'm going to pick the bangles. I think the bangles are going to win, but I don't think they're going to destroy them.


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[Assistant] Well, an example of that real quick, Brenton. Patrick Mahomes threw 50 touchdown passes in 2018. You know what he did in his first playoff game? Not great, Breach. Zero.


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[Assistant] I do agree with that. If Skyward Thompson is the starter, the bills are gonna roll. But, Teddy gives him a chance, Tua gives him a better chance.


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[Assistant] Well, and the thing with the, with the Dolphins and the Bills is that when they played in December in Buffalo, a big reason Miami stayed in that was cause Mozart ran for like 130, 140 yards, and if the Dolphins get going like that on the ground,


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[Assistant] Takes a lot of pressure off your quarterback, and that's the kind of game that, uh, Teddy can win.


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[Assistant] And you know, what do we know about Teddy road games? Is he unstoppable against the spread? That's like, it's kind of flipped back the other way.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, between the talent around him and the coaching staff, this is exactly what you want. I would say the only thing that's even been comparable would maybe be, uh, the Cowboys in 2016 during Dak Prescott's rookie year and they were just kind of chugging along and


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[Assistant] The defense was carrying the team. Those are both cops.


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[Assistant] But both of those work and neither of those guys got to the Super Bowl. Ben lost in the AFC title game. And he played terribly in January.


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[Assistant] And, uh, Dak and the Cowboys didn't even win their first playoff game. They lost, uh, they got a bye and lost in the divisional round.


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[Assistant] Cause they have the longest winning streak in the NFL. October 23rd against the chiefs.


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[Assistant] And since that Chiefs lost, what have they won? Nine straight?


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[Assistant] Eight of those games are against teams that have losing records, and two of them are against teams that have winning records, and when you look at, uh, one of those


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[Assistant] They got smoked by the Chiefs and they, they won the Seahawks game pretty handily. I felt like the 1 December. I'm not gonna, the week 2-1 doesn't mean anything because it was Gino's second start and, uh, the Seahawks didn't look comfortable yet, but,


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[Assistant] You know, the 49ers, I don't know. They, they dominate the Seahawks. I'm not...


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[Assistant] You look at what happened in the first game, and I know the Vikings won that one 27-24 because I remember every game that involves a 60 yard field, Vikings won it on a 61 yarder.


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[Assistant] They had a blocked punt return for a touchdown in the game against the Giants. So 10 of their points are points that like you just don't see very often. And I just remember watching that game and thinking the Giants were probably a little bit better team.


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[Assistant] Uh, but you know what? The NFL did the Vikings a favor by not putting Kirk in prime time. They said, alright, you know what? We don't want to ruin their season. Let's, let's put them.


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[Assistant] In the daylight hours. And so that's what Kirk got. But yeaah, I think if you're getting three points, you gotta take it with the Giants.


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[Assistant] One thing we didn't mention though is that this is Daniel Jones' first start because we harped on that a lot in the playoffs. We harped on that a lot in the AFC and so we don't know how he's going to respond to that. And so that's where, you know, Kirk Cousins for once does have the experience there. Okay, Cowboys, Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] That is the only thing he cannot, uh, back out of, was that he was totally, Tom Brady's gonna get rolled in the playoffs. He said that for a month straight.


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[Assistant] He's trying to talk himself into his Buccaneers bangles ticket cashing out.


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[Assistant] Home underdog in a prime time game. That's also in the playoffs. That's Tom Brady. The great Thomas ever Brady the 17th.


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[Assistant] No, I, I would take a favor. If they were favored by like one and a half, I would.


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[Assistant] It doesn't look like weather will be a factor. It's supposed to be about 65 degrees at kickoff next Monday. Obviously a lot can change between now and then.


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[Assistant] But, uh, gonna be nice and warm. And by the way, all six of these games are rematches from the regular season. This is only the fifth time that has happened, uh, since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970, and the first time it's happened since 2009. Fun fact.


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[Assistant] I will pick the 49ers, but I don't know about any of the other teams I gotta sleep on.


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[Assistant] I will take the New York football Giants.


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[Assistant] Even though I might change the Vikings, but right now I'm on the Giants and right now I'm on the Buccaneers because you guys got me all hyped up. There's no way Thomas Edward Brady's gonna lose.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, usually if you want to argument, not the fire coach, you would want to see that he can still inspire his guys to win in a game. It means absolutely nothing, which is what lovey Smith did here.


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[Assistant] But instead, the opposite happened where, you know, the Texans don't say it in their statement, but clearly it was, hey bro, you just cost us the number one overall pick, so we're gonna go ahead and fire it. We were on the fence, but that put us over the fence, and you're out.


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[Assistant] And to Ryan's point about Nick Cicero, I do, look, he was part of the press release tonight that released a statement from him. I do think it would be weird if they released a statement from him about Lovey Smith only to fire him the next day because they could have just released a statement from Cal McNair.


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[Assistant] Uh, so, you know, maybe he gets fired. I don't think it would happen in the next 24 hours. Maybe, uh, he gets to an argument with Cal McNair about which coach they should hire. But my God, I just love how the Texans won this game because it really felt like an F-U from Wubby Smith to the ownership.


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[Assistant] It was, they had a fourth and 12 on their game winning drive and Lovey Smith could have been like, yo Davis, just airmail a pass and.


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[Assistant] The season's over, we get the number one pick and no one will just, you know, throw it out of bounds or throw it into the ground. No one will judge anything because we're the Texans and that's what they expect us to do. No, he converts it and the touchdown they score was on a fourth and twenty.


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[Assistant] I don't want you guys to draft someone to replace me, so I'm gonna try and win this game. So I'd love that the Texans played hard till the final second, and God bless Lovey Smith for winning this game, because the Texans deserved not to get the number one.


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[Assistant] I mean, what is, how can Jim Ursay justify hiring him? That's just gonna be a whole situation if that happens.


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[Assistant] Russell Brown's might, I mean, it looks like maybe with a competent coach, it's going to be like a urban Meyer.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Big Six Podcast. CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm your host, week 15 best bets. Week 15 already.


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[Assistant] We'd be this close to the end of the season if the NFL wasn't greedy and expanded to 18 games. But we're 18 weeks. Here we are. Pete Priscoe, RG White, joining me to...


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[Assistant] Make some best bets. Was I the only one? Oh no, Pete above 500 this week as well.


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[Assistant] Maybe it was even like after, after a podcast, like on Monday night, maybe Billy, he was like, they were like, how is your record? How are you? How are you so much worse on your best bets than your overall record? I was like, that's, that's so rude. Leave me alone.


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[Assistant] It was a tough week this past week. This week, week 15 should be interesting as well.


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[Assistant] I went, uh, three and two, Pete went three and two last week, RJ two and three.


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[Assistant] So you could have teased the Ravens and the Steelers in one.


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[Assistant] Who sent a text, he's like, he's been like pretty hot on his, his bats. He sent a text. He was like, I'm teasing the Steelers. And I was like, I don't.


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[Assistant] 23 one score games in the last two years and they can't cover like nine and a half against the freaking lions. Come on, man. Um, maybe a little.


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[Assistant] This might be a little teaser action here, depending on the quarter. Actually, this is a teaser action. Pete's got a teaser on this. Ravens of Browns. Browns minus three over under 37. It's actually climbed up to 38.


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[Assistant] The Ravens are catching a little juice on Caesars minus 120 at the plus three.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I got a Baltimore plus three is the best bet for basically the same reason. It's like, if, if, if Huntley plays, it's just not going to be three.


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[Assistant] And you see the line sort of moving that way. You also see the over under climbing up a full point, which sort of indicates that they expect a little more offense for Baltimore and that Huntley should play.


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[Assistant] In lieu of actually, you know, further analysis, I'm curious, would you play Deshaun Watson or Geno Smith this week in fantasy?


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[Assistant] Well, you know what, my bad for putting you on the spot on Thursday game. I forgot about that. Uh, I got Baltimore is the best bet. I, I, I are playing.


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[Assistant] And by the way, I will be in like 15 minutes. I will disappear for like five minutes just so people know who are listening.


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[Assistant] Uh, just like Mike White, the, uh, the possible Jets quarterback TBD. Before we get there though, we got to talk about the Chiefs and the Texans.


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[Assistant] Like, I, I, I don't, I don't know, I mean, what do you, what do you, like, how do you, you can't, can you take the Texans? I feel like people will take the Texans because the last week, I, I can't, not with this.


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[Assistant] And I would definitely be looking if the Chiefs have a lead at halftime at a second half under because Andy, Andy Reed, I mean, he's very good at just.


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[Assistant] Melting that clock, pounding the football in the run game, extending drives, stretching, stretching out those drives and making sure that his team, you know, is, is even some of the field of tongue. Um, I think this is kind of an interesting game though. I mean, again, fantasy related fantasy playoffs start this week.


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[Assistant] A lot of people are expecting Mahomes and Travis Kelsey to have big games. And I sorta wonder if this might be a running game for the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's a, it's a good pick. I like, but if he, if he mushes him, I would be very upset.


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[Assistant] Uh, Cowboys minus four at the Jaguars over under forty seven and a half. The Dallas Cowboys. Now Pete, it's a look ahead spot. The NFL teams have look ahead spots. Who's looking ahead? The Cowboys with the Eagles.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think the stats have kind of been beaten to the ground here, but I'll, I'll repeat them anyway. Uh, Trevor Lawrence last five games, 72% completion percentage, 272 passing yards per game, 10 touchdowns, zero interceptions, 19 carries, 119 yards and a rushing touchdown as well.


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[Assistant] We'll ignore the three fumbles and focus on the, uh.


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[Assistant] 7.5, yea, 7.5 years per temp, not that great, but like, anybody who thought that Trevor Lawrence was not gonna be good because of one year with Urban Friggin' Meyer, like, that's the dumbest take anybody's put out on planet Earth in a while. Like, that was a redshirt season. Trevor Lawrence is good. And he's gonna be great. He's gonna be great.


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[Assistant] Like he's going to be an elite quarterback. I don't understand why anybody bailed on Trevor Lawrence after-


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[Assistant] Yeah. Pick any, any tenure of any coach. Like, uh, who was the, uh, the Shulas in, uh, it was like seven Shulas who flopped miserably outside of Don and David Shula and Dave Shula with the Bengals. Right. Yeah.


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[Assistant] It's not funny, I shouldn't laugh at this, but it's like, if we were having this debate about Sidney Lowe relative to like who's the worst coaches of all time, and I went down this like, uh, Dave Shula Wikipedia rabbit hole, it's like, he's like,


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[Assistant] After he left coaching, he, he, he managed the family steak house.


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[Assistant] Sorry, Dave. No offense, pal. Uh, I got the Jaguars is best bet. Four points too much. Trevor Lawrence training well.


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[Assistant] Dallas look, I mean, I know they don't look ahead. I really do think that Jerry Jones is hammering the importance of this Eagles game.


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[Assistant] Cause you gotta show Philly that you could play with them when you see them in the playoffs. I like Jacksonville to win this game.


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[Assistant] Falcons at the Saints, Saints minus four over under 43, ticked up half a point here, Pete, nasty little, man, this used to be your, your bread and butter game. You'd go down there to like the Superdome and you'd like, like get Sean Payton all riled up. Like.


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[Assistant] What was it, like, the, the, the, the Saints players are like talk, the Falcons and the Saints are talking trash. They don't have the same juice here, but still, a, a very ugly Southern rivalry.


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[Assistant] That's an interesting overplay because I think the average, uh, person betting on this game and look at this and just think like, no way can I take the over, but you, you've been kind of spot on with those Falcons overs, uh, this season so far, RJ and the Saints have been right there as well.


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[Assistant] Uh, I would lean Falcons here, just getting the four, but I mean, obviously Pete knows Desmond Ritter, first game.


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[Assistant] I mean, who knows what you're getting. I do think Arthur Smith has done a good job managing this.


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[Assistant] Especially with, I mean, technically still alive for the division and whatnot.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'd lean Falcons, but no best bet here for me. Steelers at the Panthers. Oh my gosh. Another scorcher. Can't even pick it. Heading to Charlotte. Panthers minus three. Steelers are catching some juice here at minus 120.


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[Assistant] Disgustingly low total at 37 and a half here, Pete. I mean...


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[Assistant] I'm going to magically disappear for like five minutes. Uh, I got the under here is the best bet. Terrible game. Uh, Pete, why don't you tell us about the Cardinals and Broncos Broncos minus three over under 36 and I'll see you in one second.


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[Assistant] You know what was really terrifying? They played a clip of you talking Pete, before I started talking on HQ. It was very discombobulating. What was the clip?


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[Assistant] You were saying something about the Dolphins potentially missing the playoffs, which I think is a very viable take.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I'm sort of the same way. It's like you look at it three and a half. It's Tom Brady. But I mean, we thought the same thing about last week. It's like Tom Brady getting three and a half against Brock Purdy and the bucks stink. There's just, there's not very good in like Joe Burr.


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[Assistant] But like if Tom Brady did, if Tom Brady is in the playoffs, I mean, you know, you're going to say that on HQ at some point before the wild card weekend where you're like, listen,


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[Assistant] I think this team is trash, but they have Tom Brady and so I can't rule out this insane run by this trash team with Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] Talk here, but like, what do you think about this? Like Tom Brady going back to the Patriots? Come on, what are we doing?


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[Assistant] No, two is Miami. I know, that's what I'm saying. Like where, I mean where, he's just gonna stay in Tampa?


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[Assistant] Well, to RJ's point though, on the, on the Raiders, like, and Pete, you, you, you were the one who trumpeted this louder than anybody else, but the only way that the Broncos were able to get rid of Tim Tebow


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[Assistant] Was getting Peyton Manning. And I'm not saying Derek Kars, you know, tipped Tiva, but it's like.


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[Assistant] Derek, you know, if you're Derek Carr, you can't even be mad if Tom Brady takes your spot. Like, it's Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] And then Tom Brady would be dead three weeks in.


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[Assistant] I actually do. So I have a, uh, best bet on the Cardinals under 36. It's disgusting.


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[Assistant] Right. That's like a, that's like, that's like a, like a third tier bowl game matchup.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I also have a best bet on the Titans Plus 3.


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[Assistant] Cause I think the charger, I do, I do think RJ's best about me over there is a good look. Oh, and I've.


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[Assistant] You know what? I'm gonna get rid of my best bet on the bucks. I had that in there. That's out. Out. Taking that out.


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[Assistant] I got torched by the Niners last week. Giants of the Commanders!


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[Assistant] Commandos, minus four and a half, over under 40.5. Just like the Jets and the Lions, you wouldn't have guessed that this game mattered a whole ton for the playoff purposes, Pete, uh, before the season started, yet here we are in week 15. Kind of a stinky line here, I think.


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[Assistant] I think this is sort of like the, the giants look ugly. It's just, it's not pretty.


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[Assistant] Commander Steven's playing well. The run game as Pete points out, Brian Robinson, very physical dude, that run game.


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[Assistant] But this is sort of like a last hurrah for the giants to try and, you know, figure out a way to get back in that hunt.


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[Assistant] And Brian Dabble is a good enough coach where I'm going to trust him to like with a total of 40 and a half. I think the Giants are going to keep it close. This just feels like a field goal game. I'm going to take the four and a half fully prepared to hate myself.


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[Assistant] It's like, hammering the Texans this year. Good luck pal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's true. Cardinals look like they're going to roll. Um, I'm sure to show Watson will figure it out at some point.


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[Assistant] Let's rip through some, oh no, rams and packers, packers minus seven.


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[Assistant] I've heard of 39 and a half. Man, there's some ugly games out there this week.


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[Assistant] Uh, that is, of course, that's the, that's the Monday night game, right? Yep. Yep. Yep. Gross.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, I, I mean, I don't want to be overreactionary here.


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[Assistant] And wipe off multiple best bets that I submitted to Billy before the show on a granted three rare occasion that I do that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, however, if RJ says that this lie should be 12, I'm not, I can't take the Rams plus seven and I just can't.


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[Assistant] I'll take the Rams plus seven. I don't like it. Baker's a, Baker's a massive upgrade, man. I mean, like even he's had like time to prepare. I do worry that Rogers coming off the buy. And by the way, NFL, like you guys are promoting fantasy.


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[Assistant] It's a big thing. How about not six buys on week 14, right? Like that, that really was poorly planned by them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, in Miami. Six percent chance per 538. If they win on Monday night, jumps up to eight. Beat Miami, it jumps up to 19. Beat Minnesota, 36 percent chance.


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[Assistant] You know, you need help in the form of, you know, Washington, you, you need what, what, what the lions and the Packers would need in theory to, to sneak in is the Cowboys and the Eagles have to care about week 18 and, or just win with their backups. Like that's going to be the difference maker, I think, for those teams.


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[Assistant] I was sort of hoping we'd just gloss over that thing and just move on to another game and not pretend like I didn't take the Rams plus seven and Green Bay 12! That terrifies me, RJ.


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[Assistant] But I'm stuck with it. Oh well. Let's do some quick headers. Call to the Vikings. Vikings minus four over under forty eight and a half down to forty seven and a half on Caesar's beat.


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[Assistant] Basically they had a hurrah hurrah game against the Raiders with Jeff Saturday and they staked now. So give me, I think David Cook explodes in this spot against Indianapolis.


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[Assistant] Next up, Dolphins of the Bills, Bills minus seven over under 43 and a half. Pete, I have an inkling that you think the Bills will absolutely destroy the Dolphins and their South Florida-ness up in the cold weather of Buffalo.


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[Assistant] It's Buffalo, Green Bay, New England, and the Jets. The Jets and Green Bay are at home.


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[Assistant] It, it, if it applies there, it can apply the other way. Like, it does matter. It's nice and warm in South Florida right now. In Buffalo, it's cold as hell. You can't recreate that. And it's a whole different ball game, especially- It's not gonna be windy though, right? I don't think so.


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[Assistant] Man, you are- RJ, I don't know if you noticed, but when Pete cocks that right eyebrow up, that's what he's-


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[Assistant] Look how high that thing gets. It's outrageous. You know, good lord. Youtube.com slash, uh, pick six. All right, moving along. Billy's gonna.


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[Assistant] Like that. Finally, the game of the week of the century. High hands at the Jets.


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[Assistant] It's a pick them over into 44 and a half. I said, like I said on HQ. So probably sit here a thousand times. You go back and tell somebody.


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[Assistant] That this game is everything for the playoffs in like July of this year. They would have you locked up in an institution.


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[Assistant] Win 21 miles an hour. So that's, that's worth noting, but jerry golf, 17 to 26, 165 yards. Wasn't very good outdoors. I like, I want the lions to win because I want Dan Campbell in the playoffs. I think this lion's team is awesome and enjoyable and a cool story. They may be America's new team.


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[Assistant] Are you guys week 18? So they have the Jets?


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[Assistant] No revenge parlay this week. Podcast ran long. Don't feel like deal with me.


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[Assistant] No, he already got, he already beat Belichick. It's Belichick revenge on McDaniel's actually for beating him with the Broncos. For leaving.


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[Assistant] Chiefs over, Chiefs under, excuse me, 49 and a half. Chargers over 47 and a half. My best bet's Baltimore plus three.


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[Assistant] Denver under 36, Carolina under 37 and a half. Disgusting.


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[Assistant] Jaguars plus four, Titans plus three, Giants plus four and a half, and the Rams plus seven. What a repulsive card that is. But you know what? Sweet fifteen. This is how we get over five hundred. And we, uh, stay hot.


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[Assistant] Fine. I'll leave bucks on there. Bucks plus three and a half. Leave it on there. Thank you. All right. That's it.


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[Assistant] Thanks for watching, thanks for listening. For Pete, for RJ, I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, they had us the first half, I'm not gonna lie. They had us, we won defeat-


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[Assistant] You know, you can't shoot us in the, through the internet, right? Well, don't never say never with him. Oh shhh.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Robert Sett. I'm your host. Wild Card Weekend. Super Wild Card Weekend. Excuse me. Let's turn you over. Remind us constantly. Super Wild Card Weekend. One game left. Monday Night Football. Cowboys at Bucs.


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[Assistant] But we know a lot about what's going to happen with the future schedule. We had an exciting week in the football. There's a recap of Saturday. Those two games in the feed.


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[Assistant] We're going to talk about the three games on Sunday. Joining me to do so. Ryan Wilson and a fully decked out in Biggles gear. John breach. Gentlemen, how we doing?


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[Assistant] So now that we're going to dive into the Ravens first, we're not just a requiem for my Super Bowl pick before the season. And one of my draft picks in our Super Bowl draft, if they have Lamar Jackson in this game, they're beating the Bengals with the way that those teams, two teams played. So preach with that in mind, given how the Bengals played against the Ravens at what do we think?


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[Assistant] What are you, what is your concern level with the bingles moving forward? Because the way that they've been playing down the stretch.


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[Assistant] Not an inspiring game from Cincinnati. They won the game. They won at home.


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[Assistant] It doesn't, it doesn't feel like you don't come out of this thinking, Oh yeah, we're about to torch the world to go win this.


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[Assistant] And I know this is not, this is not the time to throw this out there, but I believe it. Like I really do believe it. I think that if you separated everything, like coach, offensive, like, and I know that Burrow has great weapons.


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[Assistant] I, I would not be, I think if you, if you do, you do a franchise draft, right?


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[Assistant] You pick, you, like, you're the first overall pick, you can pick any player in the NFL.


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[Assistant] You know, age, contract, contract not involved, age matters.


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[Assistant] Lawrence? The top, the top four are Lawrence. It's, it's, it's Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, and Lawrence. Top four in some order.


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[Assistant] Here's a question I wanted to ask. This is a bullet of the rocks. Thank you for asking.


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[Assistant] In a wild card round playoff against a divisional rival who's starting their backup quarterback and their starting quarterback Lamar Jackson, who is dealing with a PCL injury, but hasn't signed a contract.


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[Assistant] As the Mars away from the team, like if you lose to that team as an eight point favorite as the Bengals, it is you.


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[Assistant] This is where I come in and say this season is a disaster and a disappointment.


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[Assistant] I mean, no, but it was like, it was like, Oh, well that, that changed everything about this game where


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[Assistant] There were several moments like this all week long where these big spread, these big, like,


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[Assistant] Big underdogs in the sort of divisional matchups had a chance you make a play and all of a sudden it flips the game and the favorite is very nervous.


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[Assistant] And that was, this is one of them. I mean, if Huntley scores that, I mean, and it wasn't literally a game of inches. He's what? Three or four inches from.


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[Assistant] This Ravenstein feels a little, I mean, the Ravenstein, this Ravenstein feels a little, I don't know, cursed, but just.


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[Assistant] You know, when Lamar went out and... Well, even before that, they lost it. Well, real quick on that play.


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[Assistant] Depending on where you want to go with the football as a quarterback, like if you're jumping over the line, you want your linemen sort of blocking up like, like out and up.


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[Assistant] But if you're, if you're diving into the pile, you want your lineman like, like diving down and blocking down so you can sort of create gap and you have somebody coming behind you.


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[Assistant] Very nice. All right. Okay. Anything else from this game?


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[Assistant] Future matchups, just anything else from this game in particular.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that would have been... Breach wouldn't be here right now. I mean, I wouldn't be if I weren't Bingo's fan.


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[Assistant] Oh my god. Yeah. Crazy. Alright. Giants of Vikings.


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[Assistant] Oh boy. I mean, I tell you, we had a good weekend of football, fellas. The Giants.


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[Assistant] I think, I can't remember who said it to me. I think maybe RJ White said it, uh, earlier in the picture this week, but it was like, you know, I kept, I kept mentioning the bill, excuse me, the giants as the 2022 version of the 2017, uh, bills, you know, Sean McDermott showed up.


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[Assistant] And they won more games than they should have, and they made it to the playoffs, they overachieved, et cetera, et cetera. It's very possible the Vikings are kind of the same team too, with better personnel around them. Um, my buddy, Josh Saldin.


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[Assistant] It was a huge Vikings fan. We ended up texting for a long time, but I was like, you know, where, where do you steal this? Because we had the conversation mid season.


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[Assistant] About if the Vikings go win 13 games and lose the first round, what is this season?


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[Assistant] Like is this a season, you know, disappointment, et cetera, et cetera. Um, and so Dean's point was as a, as a huge Vikings fan is that it's optimistic about the future.


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[Assistant] Wherever it goes at quarterback, Kirk Cousins is getting old. He's got one year left on his deal, but obviously disappointed by the ending of the season. Now.


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[Assistant] I don't think, if I'm reading wrong, you can text me and tell me.


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[Assistant] Like this season wasn't a failure for the Vikings. It's just a disappointment. Right?


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[Assistant] Because of the high expectations given what the, where the Beatles were last year.


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[Assistant] We've been saying all season, this team is flirting with disaster. They are getting lucky. They are winning close games. That's awesome. That's unlikely to continue in perpetuity.


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[Assistant] And it didn't against the other one score game team, the giants. I would not look at this Viking season and say, man, what a disaster for the Vikings.


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[Assistant] Derek Carr fans, Andy Dalton fans, Kirk Cousins fans get mad when you criticize them about this.


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[Assistant] But like this is the same problem that all these guys have is it is fourth down. Your season is on the line.


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[Assistant] You cannot throw the ball short of the sticks unless the play call is such that it's designed like a Tyree kill is coming across the middle and you're getting the ball in his hands and you want to let him work up field.


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[Assistant] This is man coverage with a guy nearby and you threw three yards short of the sticks. You can't do that. A semi decent tackle is going to stop him. Now, having said that, the Vikings won 13 games this year.


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[Assistant] They still had a successful season. They won 13 games in 2017. Do you know the last time they won 13 games before that or more?


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[Assistant] I'm not suggesting Vikings fans should be happy with the outcome this season. If I were a Vikings fan, I'd be pissed too. I'm not saying that you look at the season and say, man, we really crushed it this year, but you won 13 games.


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[Assistant] 11 wins in one score games and NFL record, 10 comeback wins, which ties the NFL record, eight fourth quarter comeback wins, which ties the NFL record. You were playing with fire the entire season to win 13 games and then draw the giants of all teams.


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[Assistant] Daniel Steven Jones, the third is. Yeah, man, dude, look, I'll tell you what, two dudes who made themselves some money. The third. Okay. Okay. One, one Brian Dable is like,


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[Assistant] Great head coach. If you put him in charge of the bagels, that team is winning two Superbowls in the next five years. No offense, Zach Taylor.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying like what he's getting out of the giants is really incredible. And you, and you look at what Daniel Jones did under previous coaches, Pat Shermer and Joe judge. And this is a no bleep Sherlock thing, but cause those guys are not great at their jobs. Brian Dable is a really, really good head coach.


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[Assistant] And they're getting the most out of Daniel Jones. They're getting the most out of St. John Barclay. They're getting the most out of Darius Slayton. They're getting the most out of Isaiah Hodgins. They're getting the most out of Ricky James. Is it Ricky James?


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[Assistant] They're getting like, they're maximizing talent at the skill position level and they've got this defense cooking Dexter Lawrence. I don't know if you guys saw Dexter Lawrence against Garrett Bradbury. It looked like.


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[Assistant] One of, uh, one of my buddies who's a state fan tweeted, uh, texted, he said, I could, I could backpedal faster.


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[Assistant] And then Garrett Bradbury trying to block another man. I'd be like, like I was saying, I can't run back faster than Garrett Bradbury being pushed back into the quarterback. This giant team is a little frisky. I know that certain factions of this podcast.


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[Assistant] Are not concerned with the Giants because you know, they're the Eagles and they have this long history of winning lots of games. Um, Giants have a little bit of.


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[Assistant] I like the Giants. I usually hate the Giants. I've always hated them.


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[Assistant] I do think that if you look at, so Kevin Connell comes from the shamanic ray tree.


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[Assistant] The one thing Sean McVade did that I, that like always all, I always go back to this is his first year in Los Angeles. He hired Wade Phillips as his DC.


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[Assistant] And he basically was like, I don't, I don't know what I don't know. And wait, I want you to just handle the defense.


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[Assistant] And I'm going to do, I'm going to be a CEO and then run the offense and do all that.


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[Assistant] And I think Kevin O'Connell probably tried to do that and just didn't pick the right guy.


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[Assistant] Giants wide receivers, they could do whatever they want. I mean, Daniel Bellinger's not even close to being touched on like a third and goal play. I mean, the whole thing was a disaster, but Daniel Jones, I'm not sure how they're going to do this. I would think that I would get if I had to guess, however, the season ends for the Giants, Daniel Jones signs a


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[Assistant] Team ish friendly or friendly ish, friendly ish contract.


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[Assistant] That Daniel Jones will sign the team friendly ish deal. That's like 35 to $38 million a year. Well, boy, that 40 range where people really get mad. Ton of money.


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[Assistant] So three years, you know, nothing, nothing long-term. He's still young. And then they tagged Barkley and you bring this core back. Cause I mean, this team is.


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[Assistant] There's some stuff on this team that's really interesting. I would not, I would not, I think Philly will probably smoke them.


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[Assistant] Cause Philly's much deeper and better across the board, but depending on the line, do you know what the line is if you look?


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[Assistant] Uh, no, I will never apologize to Dave Gelman. He hired Joe Judge.


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[Assistant] I, first of all, I love Dexter Lawrence. I never complained about that pick.


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[Assistant] It's not like terrible. He's had a lot of good picks. He drafted Christian McCaffrey.


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[Assistant] He probably could have drafted Dexter Lawrence later. He did his problem is his, his inherent inability to understand value in the draft, not his personnel evaluation. So.


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[Assistant] You're a Vikings fan or a Giants fan moving forward? Who would you rather be?


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[Assistant] I think you're like driving something. You're like in the, you're like in one of those little things that transport cars and there's like a hundred cars with you and you're pressing the gas pedal and your car's not going anywhere.


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[Assistant] It looks like what I was saying about Sean McVeigh. I know what I don't know. He, he knows he can coach a team.


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[Assistant] He doesn't know if he can call plays and coach a team at the same time.


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[Assistant] So take something off your plate, give it to your boy Ken Dorsey, who you trust. It's, it is the ultimate.


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[Assistant] If you, if you properly delegate responsibility to people you trust and they do well, you will succeed more often than not.


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[Assistant] So by the time cousins got it, he started to act like he was going to run.


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[Assistant] If you're gonna, if you're gonna call that play, it has to be cousins against the ball and immediately you have somebody, you have two receivers.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Uh, anyway, Dorsey replaced Friday, although it was my fault. Forget all these, you know, you deal with all these.


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[Assistant] Bill's Dolphins. A little closer than Buffalo would have liked. Next!


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[Assistant] All right, Wilson, as a resident, we have a very hammer.


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[Assistant] I am. I thought that I thought that the last timeline here, but basically Josh, I went for the guy who was mocked by analytics community, this big breakout. And now it feels like he's a little loosey goosey. It feels like he's hardest his powers. And so he's sort of like playing it.


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[Assistant] Forcing a one-up strip or something. I don't know. He, he, he just feels a little too loose with the ball.


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[Assistant] And you saw, I mean, there were several times where, I don't think all the interceptions were his fault. I mean, Cole Beasley coughed one up, but man.


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[Assistant] I don't know that the number of stopping mattered in that play.


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[Assistant] Richard Sherman tweeted out that he's like, he's like, Christian Wilkins blocked that man. The most polite way you could block a man in like a field where you, cause you don't want to.


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[Assistant] You know, we Wilkins get called for a flag and you should throw in a quarterback down. Um, yeah, I, I, I, Josh Allen's, Josh Allen is a supreme talent.


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[Assistant] I don't know, maybe the bills are pressing a little bit is what it feels like. Or they took this game too easy. I get that. That's sort of what I felt like they, it's like they came out and looked sharp immediately. They do this kind of frequently. I feel like.


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[Assistant] I mean, uh, I mean, there were multiple balls scraping the ground that were dropped. So great throws, Steph digs. I mean,


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[Assistant] There were a lot, there were a lot of close calls in this game. Steph Diggs had the one where it was like, you're watching, you're like, that's a touchdown. And then you see the replay and you're like, okay, left foot down, but he didn't have total control. There was the Dawson Knox one where he scraped the ground in the end zone.


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[Assistant] I think Josh Allen's pressing. I think, I think Josh Allen views this as a, in the AFC, there are the Bengals and the Chiefs and the NFC. Maybe the Eagles come out. Maybe the Niners come out, but neither of those team is favorite over the bills.


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[Assistant] I think there's a, I think, I think there, I think the bills are, I think Josh Allen's pressing knowing that this is a real, real opportunity to win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] So you record like a set if you record something right and there's sometimes the sound is low and sometimes sometimes the sound is high. It's like a like a wide variance.


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[Assistant] For the last year and a half, it felt like Josh Allen's variance was very like, he'd narrowed the variance down.


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[Assistant] And now it feels like his variance has grown substantially where we're going to get these really peak throws, but we might get some stuff in the next couple of weeks that is.


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[Assistant] Could really flip a football game and change whether or not the Bills win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, like in just a, the play call I thought was great.


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[Assistant] If two is, if two is elder center and two is, you know, cognitively fine.


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[Assistant] He delivers that ball to Tiger kill. It was probably a touchdown, honestly. Like he catches that and Tyreex torching everybody on the sideline. Skyler Thompson bailed early because there was pressure on the middle and then try to force it on the right sideline. And that's, you know, I mean, like he's a six round rookie from Kansas state. He's seventh. Yeah. I mean, he's like, he's.


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[Assistant] He said Brock Purdy, but I mean, that's a tough spot to be in. You're getting pressure up the middle. I thought the, I thought the Dolphins had quitted themselves very well in this game.


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[Assistant] It's a perfect game. The bills are having a whole lot of soul searching right now.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Well, and that was sort of my, my initial question was are, or I guess maybe I put it in the run up, but like, are we, was this a, the bills took the Dolphins too lightly or is this a, the bills aren't prepared to handle


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[Assistant] The best that Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow could give


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[Assistant] Let's say like you're, you know, your uncle Steve or whatever, you know, he loves to go to sleep at 7 PM on Sunday night.


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[Assistant] He wakes up on Monday morning. The first thing he gets an email from you. It's a box score of this game. He would tell you that the bills won by 24 points.


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[Assistant] It's just like the yardage and the convert, like the, I mean, like, like the, you know, the state, like not the, you know, he's not watching highlights. You just say, here's the stats. I mean, the bill is dominating this game. They just kind of, I'm not trying to dog the dolphins at all. It's just, they, you know, the.


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[Assistant] The bills, that's the question is, did the bills, was this a division rivalry thing? Or are the bills a little sloppy right now?


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[Assistant] No, no, but I'm just agreeing with you. I'm saying like, you, you now, if you're Buffalo, more than likely have to go, you have to deal with Joe Burrow coming to Buffalo and then go play Casey.


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[Assistant] I think Buffalo is right to be sniped by Sissy.


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[Assistant] I think, look, I think the idea, and I mean, it was, uh, Armando Salguero at outkick.com who floated it.


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[Assistant] That Mike McDaniel might get fired if he missed the playoffs. That speaks a lot more to the disaster that is the Dolphins front office and the organization as a whole than it does Mike McDaniel who crushed this season. Did they lose the wild card game? Yeah.


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[Assistant] To a Buffalo team that was the favorite to win the Super Bowl before the season. And they could, they got, and they were down to Skyler Thompson, a seventh round rookie quarterback against Josh Allen with a fully loaded Buffalo squad. And they lost by three points. And if Jim Waddle and Tiger Gill catch a few passes, if I can say he catches some.


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[Assistant] Maybe the Dolphins win this game and the whole narrative flips and we're talking about how Buffalo.


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[Assistant] Hey, I don't disagree with you. I think head coaches should not call plays.


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[Assistant] I've got, I've got, I've got RW written on that green button right there. What does that say Billy? Here's a schedule for the divisional round. We're going to get out of here in under an hour or full recap. By the way, before we get to these games, shout out to playoff hashtag playoff Gabe Davis.


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[Assistant] This guy in the post season just shows up like an animal and it does nothing for the like, like sporadic events. Saturday, January 21st. We kick off the AFC division around games. I'm not sure why they say it on CBS. Somebody explain to our bosses Jacksonville at Kansas City on NBC. They force you to say peacock. You don't need to buy peacock unless you want to watch Yellowstone and technically universal. The Jaguars and the chiefs.


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[Assistant] Wilson, what is your wins over Wilson number for this matchup?


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[Assistant] I think that we got very lucky that the bingos won tonight or on Sunday night because.


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[Assistant] Uh, it could have been Ravens at Chiefs and Jags at Bills, which has major blowout potential. I do think Doug Peterson can keep it close with AD Reid.


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[Assistant] And then you got the Cincinnati Buffalo. I think that those are two good AFC games.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Jacksonville Casey is a, as a, I mean, look, you look at the quarterbacks involved in these final games, man. I mean, it's good stuff.


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[Assistant] Giants at the Eagles, 8 15 Eastern Time on NFC.


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[Assistant] In, in, in, in, in Fox, in Fox Deportes.


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[Assistant] I think the Eagles, I think the, I think the Eagles and the Chiefs win by double digits.


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[Assistant] Breach always, Breach has been a figure four headlock in the, uh, in the old, in the old mind games.


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[Assistant] Usually can't get in my head, breaches in my head.


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[Assistant] Alright, so we'll update you next weekend. Alright, here's the, ooh, here's the parlay. Divisional round, early parlay to put in now. Chief's Moneyline. Eagle's Moneyline. Bangle's Moneyline. What's that? Plus three, three, six. Which is actually my area code in my telephone.


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[Assistant] That is a beauty of sports is like when your, when your favorite team in your entire life is somehow still alive or something decent, you don't care about anything else. We're just like tiny little tree behind them can be burning.


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[Assistant] Uh, Nathan Graber, okay, points out too, and I think this, we're going to float this up, the food chain at CBS. Black pole, yeah. Black pole, food chain, whatever. If the Eagles lose the Super Bowl, Debo and Billy have to produce, co-produce the week.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, we do a separate, it'll be like, it'll be like a ESP. It's mega cast where it's just a feed of Billy and a feed of Devo.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, we'll get right here on this. Robert Thomas has a good question. Rate the playoffs so far. Wildcard, we can give it a rating. Oh, A plus. Oh, grade scale, down to one of ten. Grade scale. A plus. I will say A minus.


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[Assistant] So we all agree that so far wildcard week is awesome.


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[Assistant] But Billy, it's been a great, it's been great working with you.


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[Assistant] For breach for Wilson, I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys after Monday Night Football of Super Wild Card Weekend. Bye.


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[Assistant] Quite convincingly and the Steelers had to win and they pulled that out in the last minute. The Jets had to lose and, uh, turns out Mike White dressed up as Zach Wilson for New Year's Eve and that's how he played.


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[Assistant] But uh, yeaah. It's a good start. It's a great win. I'm happy for you all. Keenie Pickett there. Back to back game learning drives.


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[Assistant] Uh, I guess a Raiders team that, that literally sent their quarterback out the pasture and then a Ravens team that doesn't have a quarterback. They're still waiting for Lamar to get back. But hey, it is what it is. One more week of football, the play breach. So the Steelers and their fans are mid. Is that how the kids say it?


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[Assistant] Impressed you the most about this Steelers football team because the special teams, they're going to lose that every time to Justin Tucker and typically to any other football team. Was it the last drive? Was it Mike Tomlin's coaching acumen? Do you desperately wish that Mike Tomlin was coaching the Bengals? Tell me.


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[Assistant] You know how I described the Steelers offense under Matt Canada, especially the last two weeks. It's like the major league baseball season where 162 games do not matter, only the playoffs matter and then things get exciting. So that's the first 45 to 50 minutes of Steelers offense is the 162 game major league baseball schedule.


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[Assistant] So if you're the Bills or if you're the Bengals as we sit here, 2 and 3, is that what you said? Yea.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Windsor-Wilson is, is close to support.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's been, he's been the best running back over the course of the season. I don't think not just been healthy the entire time. He certainly feels healthier now.


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[Assistant] I just want to say quickly, Stephen O's latest, uh, AFC playoff percentage updates after this Sunday night game, our guys at sports line. Steelers are last at 18%, Nexus, Tennessee, they're done, uhm, cause they don't have a quarterback. Nexus, New England at 35%, then the Dolphins at 44%, and then the Jaguars who are at 76% feel too low.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, Jews last time they played too. I mean, uh, I think the breach is larger point. It's just like, you can't win without your quarterback. And even though he wasn't MVP Lamar, he's, you know, 2 million percent better than Tyler Huntley. No disrespect to Tyler Huntley. You can't win that way. Um, sustained anyway. I mean, you can beat the Steelers and they could have won that game for sure, but you get to the playoffs, you're going to get, you can get waxed.


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[Assistant] They gave up a kickoff return. I don't know why you're kicking it. They gave up, uh, there was that weird pick six, that ball was bobbled.


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[Assistant] Now, Carton didn't play great. I get it. But Lamar, I mean, Aaron only threw 459 yards. I think special teams, and by the way,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and Breach has a whole bunch of special teams Horny wants to talk about. But the first series of the game, block punt by the Vikings, they get the ball at the one yard line, and they had to settle for a field goal, so 3-0, and then they get a 41 unanswered hung on them, and the game's over. So I think it was every single face stunk.


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[Assistant] And the point differential for this 12 and 4 team is minus 19. I've been, I've said it before. The point differential for last year's team, those 8 and 9, was minus 1. I mean, Curses was freaking awful. You can do the math on, you know, whether this team is a 12-win team or not.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeaah, no, that's right. I think the Eagles were extremely lucky health-wise over the first three quarters of the season, even 80% of the season, and then the injury bug has sort of caught up with them over the last few weeks, starting with Jalen and then Josh Swett left today, uhm, with a neck injury, but I think he got to the hospital and he was able to move all his extremities, which is great news, but I don't know what that means for his return.


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[Assistant] So the injury bug is sort of caught up with them and that's concerning given the timing and we talked about this in HQ. Joe Musso asked me and BMAC who our favorite team was, uh, that we trusted the most in the NFC. Who do you think we said Breach?


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[Assistant] That's insane. If you think that Tom Brady's gonna- I don't-


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[Assistant] What are the odds? Let's, let's, let's put, uh, odds to the insanity number because you won't put your money where your mouth is is what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] But anyway, the 49ers are my team to beat in the NFC because of the injury concerns. If Jaylen's 100% and Philly, that's a different conversation. But as we sit here, he's not. And, uh, unfortunately Breach, third round Menchu is more like a third from the last pick Menchu because he is, he has not been good.


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[Assistant] Let me turn the question around to you. Rank the NFC teams in terms of how much you trust them because I know where the Vikings are going to be just ahead of the Buccaneers and you can guess what the Buccaneers are going to be.


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[Assistant] Do you trust Seattle? Cause I trust Seattle. I trust Gino Smith more than I trust the Vikings right now. I know that game would be in Minnesota, but I do not trust the Vikings.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't, no way. I don't necessarily, I'm not necessarily.


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[Assistant] They beat a terrible Vikings team and Aaron Rodgers didn't have to do a whole bunch. The running game got going now. The running game is going to have some, is going to eat as someone says somewhere against the Lions. So dad about it. But here's the thing. Like if Aaron Rodgers throws for 159 next week, Jared Goff is throwing for 300 more yards tonight because they can put up points offensively.


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[Assistant] It's going to be 29 degrees next week in Green Bay. You think Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell is going to coach the game without a shirt on. You see these kids, the players warming up before games with no clothes on. That's Dan Campbell coaching. Like he does not care.


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[Assistant] I'm putting my, I'm putting all my chips in on Dan Campbell and Jerry Goff. Think about that sentence.


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[Assistant] Yeah, nine, six, and one. I mean, incredibly impressed that Brian Dable is just a testament to the fact that you have to get the coaching.


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[Assistant] Decision right and sometimes as a coach, you don't need to be a play caller. Was Brian Dable made clear he wasn't going to do even though that's how he got the job he currently has and that's why Nathaniel Hackett is currently unemployed and not entirely Nathaniel Hackett's fault, but you know, sometimes these guys don't like to give the play calling duties. So.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. And Daniel Dimes is a different player. Saikon Barkley is a year healthier.


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[Assistant] And also, in your defense, he actually bumped, his arm bumped into Nick Foles at least twice while Nick Foles was convulsing as you put it. Uh, probably at the very least having trouble breathing because he's, it looked like he landed on the football landing on his ribs or whatever.


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[Assistant] Credit to him for that because the conversation that we talked about during the drabs is, you know, is he more worried about his brand and maybe his new brand is doing snow ages. I don't know. If so, people will be talking about that as well.


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[Assistant] No, I remember that. You could have waited 10 seconds to bring it up. Uhm, but anyway, yeaah, he's been playing, balling out, and that's a credit to him. He ended up going 5th overall, and turns out that's, he's about the 5th best player in that draft, so way to go Kayvon, other than just bring it down a few notches with the Snow Angels on near dead people.


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[Assistant] Cause if it blows up in your face and you got Tyra Taylor out there having to start a playoff game cause you got too cute, that's how you get Joe judged.


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[Assistant] That's right. So nah, man, just rest those guys. There's no reason to do it. In fact, the conversation was when are you taking, um, Daniel Jones out of this game on Sunday? Just get him out of there.


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[Assistant] They lost that game, but they played extremely well. In week 17? What was it?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna miss you. Despite Breach's draft profile. Might not be that good. Has not been great.


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[Assistant] Well, I, every time I get asked about this on HQ or radio or whatever, I always say that the last few weeks of conversation has been, do you trust the Packers more or the Buccaneers more? And I think it's, the gap has widened because the Packers started three in one, went one in eight or whatever, one in seven, and then they've won four in a row, whereas


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[Assistant] We know what the blueprint is for Tampa Bay breach. It's get down by a lot and then Tom Brady throws bombs in the fourth quarter to Mike Evans to come back and win. And that doesn't feel sustainable as we get further along into January. Except their best game of the season.


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[Assistant] CJ Henderson, by the way, needs to take a Jair Alexander approach to how media talk about him and use that as motivation as to not be a bad corner, but to be a good corner because he had a very tough afternoon.


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[Assistant] You mentioned Sam Darnall early in the game when he was dealing, I actually wrote down, uh, of all the former first round reach heads, Darnall may be at the top of the list this off season in terms of, uh, free agents. And then I marked that out as the game went on because he returned to the form, the Sam Darnall we've known in love for quite some time.


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[Assistant] I'm actually, I wish Carolina won that game because it would have been winning in next week, right? Is that right?


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[Assistant] So just for the added spiciness, because the Buccaneers are not good. I mean, yes, they're 8-8, but Breach, you seem, you actually seem more so than Brinson now, which is a sad state of affairs.


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[Assistant] Alright, here's Brentson, let me ask you this. Rank these teams in the order that you trust them. The Vikings, this is neutral, all neutral games. The Vikings, the Buccaneers, and the Packers.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's another question. But Breech, let me ask you, how many days need to transpire for the, this game to be equalized in terms of the Titan's skill level versus the Jax skill level?


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[Assistant] He can light this team up. Their defense is not that good. They had 27 people out last. I don't think they're all coming back. Is everyone suddenly magically healthy breach on defense?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm not. I mean, they could play this game tomorrow at 6 a.m. and I'm rolling with the Jaguars.


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[Assistant] And Breach and Brenton too, if you look at the top of CBS sports experts against the spread page, guess who's number one for back to back years.


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[Assistant] But my overall point is that, you guys are all over Trevor, all over me about Trevor. I'm all in on Trevor, I'm all in on Travis ATN, I'm all in on Doug. ATN's awesome.


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[Assistant] Yeah, man, get out of here. I love Jaguars.


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[Assistant] So, and I'm asking seriously, how much does Doug Peterson help in that? And how much does it help that Trevor Lawrence played national title game?


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[Assistant] This is a perfect example of that theory that you have. Not the Vikings get blown out in week one of the playoffs. This is exactly it.


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[Assistant] Everyone thought, myself included, they're going to win one or two football games. And then you just sort of figure things out. Drulock will get his opportunity. Drulock hasn't seen the field except for maybe mop up duty.


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[Assistant] It's a fantastic story. The defense has gotten better. Tariq Olin was a great pick. He has six interceptions. I don't think he had one today. The offensive line, they drafted two guys who were helping. Ken Walker had 133 rushing yards, 5.8 yards per carry. So this team, it's going to be a tough division, at least as we sit here going forward. A lot can change, but I think you, you build, I'm not going to say this preach, you build around Geno Smith and you go from there. Now,


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[Assistant] No, that's it. We'll see if they make the playoffs or not, but I think going forward, you get the right pieces in place.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I wouldn't draft a quarterback at all. I would resign Gino. It might get expensive. We'll find out, but I would draft to your point. I would take Will Anderson or Jalen Carter at three and not over, over complicated. They have another first run pick. That's their own. Then get more defensive help and.


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[Assistant] I don't know, Breach, things change from 12 months to 12 months. This team could go, you know, winless next year. We don't know that, but it feels like they're setting up.


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[Assistant] To be, to Brenton's point, a lot, win like the way that Pete Carroll wants to win, which is why Russ Wilson got out of there.


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[Assistant] So uhm, yeaah, I don't think Mike White's the answer, by the way.


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[Assistant] I think he was injured and that probably had something to do with it, but uhm, I just wanted to say that so I can make my HQ joke that it told me so. Uh, he ain't the old, uh, great Mike White Pope.


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[Assistant] By the way, I say, this is what I thought you said initially, let's just start calling them lemonade teams, which sounds much, much more. Lemonade teams. Much more positive than a lemonade team. So, uh.


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[Assistant] So, of the lemonade teams, which ones, uh, should we be saddest about?


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[Assistant] El Debo has never laughed quite so hard as when I said that Eugene was better than Carson.


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[Assistant] And the thing is that the teams that were eliminated in week 17, the Panthers, the Jets, the Saints, the Commanders, and the Raiders, there is no question Breach is exactly right. The Commanders are the most disappointing in that group. Uhm, the Saints won today, right? They won.


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[Assistant] Right, yeaah. The Panthers played well, but Sam Darnold, Sam Darnold up at the end, and the Raiders absolutely balled out with Jared Stidham and had a chance to win that game, uhm, although no one was surprised that they lost in overtime. So yeaah, it's the commanders, and, uh, it's not even really close.


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[Assistant] Jason Lacnappour, by the way, wrote in the Washington Post last week that Woody might be out on Robert Sala too. That's something to keep an eye on, which should be incredibly-


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[Assistant] Chat's owner, Woody Johnson, just for clarification.


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[Assistant] Which I call, what, I call a major tubby. I think that's a better name than major tubby.


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[Assistant] Did you see the Sean Taylor memorial that they put together? That explains all you need to know.


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[Assistant] Throw those receipts I just gave you up on the screen so you can answer to this because you're talking on both sides of the mouth there, Billy Jr.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, that's right. And Deebo, to his credit, Deebo's, he treads cautiously, except when he's on Twitter and he thinks no one's paying attention except for...


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[Assistant] I love the idea of Devo who's been stuck in a car with he and his girlfriend that either she's a giant span or he's wearing his breach headset just yelling at people while she's driving down the interstate, yelling at Rob Barciero.


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[Assistant] Heyo! Yeah, just like he's about to walk into a Dan Campbell knee body for disrespecting the Detroit Lions. So yeah, man, I'm all in Alliance. You guys can make the case you want for Aaron Rodgers and his new fancy haircut or whatever. I'm all about Jared Goff. I'm all about that.


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[Assistant] I actually made a note during that game, uh, with all the aforementioned Justin Fields hits.


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[Assistant] And I actually wrote down, is Justin Fields gonna have like the, the longevity of a running back, like four and a half years? Because obviously he plays quarterback, but the way, the beating he takes.


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[Assistant] There's no way six years from now, he's going to be the same player he is today. Even if he...


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[Assistant] quarterback in a single season in Bears history and he hasn't played every game this year and we still got one to go.


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[Assistant] Oh, the, the trading out of the first pick and keep adjusting. I agree.


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[Assistant] You don't know what you're getting. I mean, you can draft Bryce Young. Here's the thing, man. Justin Fields weighs 225 or whatever and he's 6'2", 6'3". Put Bryce, put Bryce Young on that team. He would last absolutely


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[Assistant] That's exactly, yeaah, that's exactly what Breach was saying while you were tripping all over yourself trying to pretend you were Nick Bowles. But uhm, yeaah, no, you just trade down and get as many picks as possible. You don't even trade down that far. You could even trade down two spots and still get Will Anderson or Jalen Carter and probably get a nice little haul.


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[Assistant] Or if you put him on, I mean, what does this team look like Breach if he's...


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[Assistant] With uh, Greg Roman. Like he's not, he's, there's no Lamar Jackson, you have Justin Peele on that Ravens team with Greg Roman. I mean, they probably look very similar.


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[Assistant] Nah, he's, he's terrible. And, you know. Did Holmes win the MVP on Sunday? No, Jalen Hurts, I think as you sort of half-kiddingly made your case, made his case. So I think if he comes back in plays and balls out next week, he'll still be in the mix, but.


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[Assistant] And it ain't like Patrick Mahomes played lights out. He continues to make sort of weird non Patrick Mahomes like mistakes that end up being like red zone interceptions and he's got to fix that.


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[Assistant] The Jaguars are winning. I mean, I don't know what you guys are worried about. Here's my only thing.


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[Assistant] I know it does. That's right, actually. They're distant relatives. This is the spinoff that takes place.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, and Las Cruces. Diva knows what I'm talking about. Because if they can't...


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[Assistant] Just has to beat the Patriots on week 18 and breeches outline reasons why they may or may not care to do that depending on what happens on Monday Night Football.


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[Assistant] So Miami, as much as I don't trust them, and Tua.


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[Assistant] Here's the other thing, I mean, not this week, but what if Teddy Bridgewater and or Skylar Thompson get them in the playoffs, then the conversation will be canned to a play, you know, in the, in the playoff game. So that's the concern. So I think that's the thing. New England has to win out, which means they have to beat the Bills. That feels like a tall order, all else being equal. And by that, I mean,


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[Assistant] Uh, plausible, but the Jets have to beat Miami next week, and I don't know if that's gonna happen. So I'm going with the Dolphins, as much as I don't want to.


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[Assistant] So Mike White is beating Skylar Thompson this week.


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[Assistant] So the Dolphins have to lose, uh, Vegas, they've already lost, Pitt would have to lose, and then, um, Houston would have had to, to, to one today against Jacksonville, which didn't happen. No.


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[Assistant] Well, I would just remind Sean McDermott, and I get why he would do that, to follow the advice that I gave Brian Dable. Stay in your lane. Don't be a hero.


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[Assistant] You just left Stone Cold Mortal Lock, which is what prompted me to make the...


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the pig six podcast. CBS sports daily podcast. I'm over it and I'm your host. But I football recap week 14, week 14 is ended. We are you're into the fantasy playoffs.


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[Assistant] That's the actual football playoffs coming soon. Patriots beat the Cardinals 27-13, a really


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[Assistant] Uh, bizarre game in that it's extremely notable for some injuries to players on both sides of the ball.


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[Assistant] The Cardinals seem to be kind of controlling it and the Patriots look lost on offense and then...


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[Assistant] Patriot score sort of sparked him and they, they went ahead and they blew out the Cardinals effectively.


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[Assistant] Snuffing out the Cardinal season, therefore nine, now the Patriots seven and six, and they move into the seven seed in the AFC.


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[Assistant] That will affect him through the following season. We got to go with that first and by all accounts, Kyler Murray on the third play of the game. Oh, sorry. Joining me to break this down. Brian Wilson, John Breach. My bad. What's up fellas.


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[Assistant] I think Josh Winefest of ESPN reported or tweeted that, uhm,


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[Assistant] There's still, we're going to wait on the MRI, but basically like everybody with the Cardinals believes it's a torn, torn ACL.


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[Assistant] And the way that it's being framed and the way that he fell down, I mean, it makes total sense. Like it was a non-contact injury. It looked like he was kind of trying to slide and go down, but then all of a sudden you see the replay.


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[Assistant] You tell Kyler, it's got that, it's got that, I, you know, the sniper, I've been sniper face drops to the ground, hits the turf, lays there for a while. It has to be carted off. Uh, you see him crying, you know, just tears on, you know, flooding it in as he's, as he's going down the, uh, you know, the hallway back to the locker room. And it's a really tough scene, particularly given that the cordless really.


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[Assistant] We're probably already, the season was likely already over. I mean, they, you know, the best that they could finish was nine and eight. If they ran the table starting tonight, that's virtually impossible given, uh, Kyler's injury. I mean.


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[Assistant] I guess I'm, what do we think the biggest...


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[Assistant] The most important short and long-term ramifications of this Kyler Murray injury are, I mean, the obvious is he's not going to play.


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[Assistant] I don't like to jump to the, jump to the, jump the gun on, on injuries, but it does feel like anything short of a torn ACL would be shocking at this point, right?


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[Assistant] That's sort of, that's, that's really the first question is like, what is, you know, what do we think the timeline is for this? We've, I'm trying to think, when did Joe burrow tear his breach? It was in November.


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[Assistant] I mean, Phillip Rivers tore his in a conference championship game and he didn't, it affects people differently. Obviously the, you know, Wilson, you've had a torn ACL.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's, the recovery time is like kind of standard, but it does, it does affect people a little differently. Like it's sort of cookie cutter now with ACLs, but it would be shocking if he was back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I thought this was kind of interesting. I read this, this is on thescore.com, uh, Jordan Schultz wrote it and I'm gonna, I'm gonna read this and I'm not gonna, I don't want to source, source guess, but I mean, if you, if you feel inclined to go ahead, or maybe I will, I probably will.


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[Assistant] This is, he was looking at possible, he's looking at hot seat situations for people who keep you in trouble. Cliff Kingsbury Cardinals.


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[Assistant] Kingsbury reports to Ky, who gave quarterback Kyler Murray a $240 million extension in July. Murray's enormously tal-, enormously talented, but there are clearly growing pains that he, like many young quarterbacks, must overcome. Kingsbury's a good offense of mine and stuck in a no-win situation for an owner and GM who haven't a clue how to properly run a professional organization.


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[Assistant] And I say that I read that and I'm pointing it out and again, I don't want to, I will attempt to not source guess, but I find it interesting that as the absolute like.


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[Assistant] Like a laser with the heat of the sun is being like blasted at Clif Kingsbury's seat that this would come out like.


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[Assistant] Because to me, that doesn't read like somebody, that reads to me like somebody who might be close to Cliff Kingsbury, like is, is providing the information. Does that make sense?


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[Assistant] I'm sorry. So you tend to agree. I sort of disagreed with that whole, in the sense that like it struck me as.


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[Assistant] I mean, who's, who's, who's out there saying, Cliff Kingsbury is doing a good job?


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[Assistant] Right, but who's out there saying Steve Combs doing a good job? I mean, I think, I think the fault lies in across like.


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[Assistant] You start, I think you start at the top and move you all the way down. Like I think the entire, all the pillars of that organization are at fault for this disaster thing. It's just, it does feel like when you start reading stuff like this, it means that Cliff Kingsbury knows that he is potentially in trouble.


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[Assistant] And trying to shift the blame of the public narrative move. Now, whether or not that'll work remains to be seen.


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[Assistant] I just sort of wonder if when you have a quarterback with a torn ACL and he's not going to be back by the start of next season. Allegedly. Reportedly torn ACL.


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[Assistant] And if he's, if he's not gonna be back by, if he won't be back for the whole month of September, I mean, one,


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[Assistant] Do you fire? It's odd when you fire a coach with that kind of injury where it's like, I know it didn't cost a season. They're four and eight before. But you usually don't see that in the franchise. The quarterback suffers a major injury. You don't typically see the coach get fired. And then two,


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[Assistant] If you fire Cliff Kingsbury, who's taking the job knowing that there's no sure timeline on Kyler Murray? Like that's not exactly an idea.


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[Assistant] So I think it would be a nice increase. You have less scrutiny. That'd make things easier.


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[Assistant] To, I'm trying not to make it so it sounds like I'm defending Cliff Kingsbury in any sort of way.


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[Assistant] But I do, I really do think that the circumstance, I think this injury and the circumstances surrounding his contract.


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[Assistant] And Kyme's, his extension from this offseason, Kyme's extension, Kyler Murray's extension.


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[Assistant] It will, Michael Bidwell will talk himself into, okay, I mean, let's, you know, this is just a curse season.


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[Assistant] Well, thank you, sir, for the very polite question. I can see you've had plenty to drink at this fan event.


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[Assistant] Cliff Kingsbury is 18-9-1. From week on, week, week eight are on, he's 10-25. That's a horrendous record.


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[Assistant] Again, I'm just saying that I, I think the confluence of events.


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[Assistant] Surrounding the contract cost, the prohibitive cost to fire Cliff Kingsbury.


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[Assistant] And the fact that Kyler will be hurt and will miss part of the beginning of next season will prevent the firing of Cliff Kingsbury. That's just my take.


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[Assistant] Alright, well uh, speaking of the Patriots offensive coordinator, Matt Patricia had a pretty good evening. Let's take a break and uh, after that we will talk about how the Patriots performed on Monday night. Next!


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[Assistant] So, uh, the Patriots were kind of struggling, but in the end of the day, at the end of the day, Mac Jones finished 24 for 35 to 35.


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[Assistant] Head to reception, it wasn't really his fault, got his arm hit and the ball popped up in the air. And maybe more importantly.


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[Assistant] The Patriots run game, Romandre Stevenson went down really early and the Patriots were able to bring on a pair of rookies, Pierre Strong Jr. and Kevin Harris.


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[Assistant] Ryan Wilson is our junior draft analyst for the pick six podcast and the host of with the first pick.


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[Assistant] You already, you already primed it, so I'll just say go subscribe to it and support Wilson. Any thoughts on these young guys coming out and, um, and how they looked in terms of performing? Obviously, Pierre Strong 5-carry, 70 yards, a nice little 14, 14-yard average. Both of them had a touchdown.


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[Assistant] I think it kind of speaks to Bill Belichick. Two decent draft classes in a row now.


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[Assistant] This is where Mac and Patricia were like getting along.


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[Assistant] He said what he said, so you have to ask him about it. And then his point was, you know,


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[Assistant] I don't think offensive guys are in favor of turning the ball over and or like, like, you know, they want to score points. Like that's the two things you want to do, but it has been vanilla. It has been, it feels like the Patriots is that graphic showed what seven to two against non-playoff teams. I mean, they've, they've made their hay.


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[Assistant] You look at the rest of the schedule, they, they have three games against playoff caliber teams. The Raiders first at the Raiders are staying out West by the way, after, after playing in Arizona, they will stay, they will go to Las Vegas.


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[Assistant] I mean, like, it just makes sense. Like, teams struggle going to Florida and playing the Dolphins in September because it's hot as hell down there. Like, it's whether you're just not used to and you're trying to perform athletically in different stuff and it's like...


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[Assistant] When you go play at Buffalo in New England in December, it is cold as hell. You know, it's, it's just, it's like, I, I, I don't think, I don't, I don't consider it a narrative. I just think it's like a natural sort of way it works. I mean, if you're, you live in warm weather, you go somewhere, it's cold. Like with Wilson.


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[Assistant] You would be, you would be, not that you would be fine playing football, but you're used to cold weather. You live in Syracuse.


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[Assistant] I like their chances to beat the Raiders, even though back to back road game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, true. Uh, but they, but they, they, they beat up on bad, they beat up on bad teams. It's like sort of a, you know, the McDaniels angle.


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[Assistant] A 40% chance of making the playoffs according to 538. A loss to the Raiders would give them a 20% chance to make the playoffs. Uh, do you think these guys are a playoff team?


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[Assistant] Or just beat the, beat the Bengals in New England. Like that's not, I mean I don't, I think the Bengals will probably be favored, but it's not that outrageous. Oh, absolutely. That's gonna be, that's gonna be plus four and a half. On Christmas Eve.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, it's Belichick at home, Christmas Eve, uh, T. Higgins and Tyler Boyd are banged up. It's, it's not, it's not the way to suggest that the Patriots can win that game at home.


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[Assistant] Dude, the Texans almost beat the Cowboys yesterday. Like, the Patriots can win that game. Any, there's almost every matchup in the NFL this year is there's a chance of either team winning the game.


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[Assistant] Anybody, anybody, anybody, anybody winning three games in a row is a difficult challenge. Like you were talking about a.


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[Assistant] You know, like, the Patriots, uh, uh, they'll be favored by what?


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[Assistant] At Oakland, at Oakland, geez Louise. Uhm, at Las Vegas. Are they gonna be favored? They're gonna be favored in Vegas. Maybe it's a pick them. I don't think they're, I don't think. Alright, let's say, let's say it's a pick them. Okay.


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[Assistant] You can make dogs if you want. Actually, the odds are probably not up yet. Uhm, there'll be dogs by what? You said four?


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[Assistant] At the, against the Bengals? Four and a half at home. Okay. Against the Bengals. And then, against the Dolphins at home, what's the score?


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[Assistant] Four. Four, and then, uh, favored by two and a half. That, that, that money line par line would be eight to one. Alright. So I mean, that's, that's probably about right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're looking at like eight, somewhere like 10 to one that they, they, they, they go three, no, they do have the greatest head coach of all time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Mack Jones, I thought had some really good moments in this game.


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[Assistant] Alright, so we see the Patriots scheduled. They're now seven and six. They're the seventh seed. The Dolphins at eight and uh, five are the sixth seed. The Dolphins are at the Bills. Hackers at home. At the Patriots. And the Jets at home.


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[Assistant] I know the Packers stink, but I wouldn't, I don't think it's outrageous to suggest. No, it's actually, I can't disagree with you on that one. And you got some like LaFleur, McDaniel, like coaching. There's a lot of the Shanahan's coaching tree floating around. The Chargers, Titans at home at the Colts Monday night, Rams at home at the Broncos.


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[Assistant] And then finally the, although there's not a lot of crossover with these AFC.


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[Assistant] There's not a ton, you know, there's just not a ton of crosshairs, but the Patriots and the Dolphins obviously have that one right there. And then Jets and Dolphins. Lions at the Jets, Jaguars at the Jets, Jets at the Seahawks, and Jets at the Dolphins. That is a pretty friendly schedule for a Jets team that, uh, is now on the outside looking in after that Patriots win.


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[Assistant] The reality of the situation is that the Jets are not going to like just be like, see you, Zach.


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[Assistant] You've already paid, you've already guaranteed his salary for four years.


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[Assistant] You're not, you're not dumping him out of nowhere.


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[Assistant] Cliff, you know, I mean, look, I'm not, again, Cliff Kingsbury could be fired, but you wouldn't fire it in like, like September.


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[Assistant] I, well, I'll, I'll, I'll take the over on my number of starts if, depending on what Mike White's injuries. He's a half as though he had. Yeah. Like he just said, I, I wouldn't be shocked at all if they started in this week and they told him, look, Zach, you're starting, you got a real quick, a real quick hook. Cause I mean, look, if- What is that? What is that?


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[Assistant] Well, if you, if you're Robert solid and you go and Mike whites really hurt and like this revenge is going to keep him out for two or three weeks and you put Zach Wilson in there and Zach Wilson plays well and he's a great teammate and they win, they beat the lions and they put themselves back in the playoff picture. Like winning cures everything.


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[Assistant] Uh, Ramadhar Stevenson, uh, yeaah, we mentioned that. I mean, like he, he'd been, uh, he'd been great the last two weeks and, uh, huge workhorse. So very curious to see what his injury is. That's a big deal for the Patriots, even with his rookie running backs running well.


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[Assistant] It gets hurt on the third play in, as you know, the Manning's pointed this out. I don't know if you guys are watching that or the regular cast, but like when you have Kyler Murray as your starting quarterback.


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[Assistant] Presumably you have to change your entire game plan. Belichick has to change his entire defensive game plan because he's, you're no longer worried about spying somebody. Like you're not going to just keep spying Colt McCoy, you know? Yeah, I mean this game.


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[Assistant] But the Cardinals didn't score a single point in the second half. And it, it felt like for much of the first half of the Cardinals were kind of not in control of the game, but like look like the better team. And this is going to be a real bad egg for the Patriots on Monday night after they lost the Bears previously. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I think, um, I think Breach has a point there. That's not, this is not all on cliff. Like his players didn't play well, but that's part of it today. And look, you know, we, um, we saw, uh, I don't count. What was the,


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[Assistant] I was, it was an NC State basketball game, but one of our players got, one of our, one of our players suffered a really bad knee injury and like the whole team was kind of shut.