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[Assistant] But, you know, again, I still think the Saints are clearly one of the three best teams in the NFC. It's them, the 49ers, and the Seahawks. Hands down. Because again, the Saints...


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[Assistant] No, I definitely would not have. And I've stood strong with that for the last four or five weeks. I've had a few pods where I've even talked about this with dad where, yeaah, these are the top three teams, those are the top three teams for me.


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[Assistant] Niners and Seahawks will play again. Niners still gotta play the Rams. Niners still gotta play the, the, the Ravens and the Saints on the road. That's coming up the next two weeks. So you'll, you know, we'll really get to see how real they are. Uhm, I just say this about the three teams we mentioned in the NFC.


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[Assistant] The Saints, the 49ers, and the Seahawks, they pass.


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[Assistant] The bar fight test for me. That's, that's what I comes down to. I'm just saying if we all through all 32 teams in the alley outside the bar, I'm saying the Seahawks, 49ers and the Saints are going to be in the top, the top five for sure. They got too many big mo foes on the front, on the offensive defensive line to where they, they, they want to fight.


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[Assistant] It's going to, it's really, alright, there's a clear top too in the Patriots and the Ravens, which again, they got a lot of big dudes, you know, and we'll get into that again too. I think the size and ferocity of the Patriots surprises people too. Uhm, and that third one, I gotta, I gotta pull up the teams really, I gotta, I gotta think about who that third one is.


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[Assistant] They're in the conversation, but not in the bar fight manner. They're a little different because of the, the, the, the magic mana quarterback and some of the, the skill guys they got. I think if I really got into the bar fight conversation, that's where the Pittsburgh Steelers might come into conversation.


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[Assistant] I'm just talking about fighting in a bar fight, right? That kind of thing. I like Pittsburgh's chances. They're big up front. They're ready to fight.


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[Assistant] Let's do it. I got it. I mean, I'll pull it up. So let me get, let me get to it here. You've got it right there. We can always pull up the dead time here. Let me just get to it. Here we go. 31. Oh, not that one. Let's see. Where the hell are we on the clock? Let me get it. Okay. Let's see.


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[Assistant] 0-37, okay, here we go, we're getting close. I'm about two plays away. Saints final drive. Saints final drive, 31-all after the miss, the miss-chip shot.


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[Assistant] Right? And... It's third down and six. Third down and six. 37 seconds left. Let's see if I got it here. I think this is it. Here we go.


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[Assistant] We know Michael Thomas is not double teamed, alright? Now, here we go, let me get this out of the way. It's Shotgun, right? Uh, Kamara's to the right of, of Drew Brees. I think he's got two receivers to his right, alright? It looks like it's Teddy Ginn in the slot.


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[Assistant] And then Michael Thomas is outside over here, right? Also has two to his left. He's got two to his left as well. It's Jared Cook in the slot, and I'm guessing that's Meredith up top, number ten. Balls on the left hash. Balls on the left hash, way to go. You, you, you, you make sure you get on it. You're, you're Johnny Radial football host, so you got it. Okay, so.


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[Assistant] Here we go, now, this is what they're doing. It's a four down alignment by the Carolina Panthers. Alright, there's three underneath in coverage. And, uhm, uh, number 33, hold on, I gotta pull up their roster, you gotta give me a second. I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna get to it before you do.


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[Assistant] Yes it is, yes. So it's Trey Boston. Gosh, I'm just choking the names lately, I feel like. I really am choking.


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[Assistant] Trey boston is trying at the snap to make it look like it's cover 2, right? He's hoping he can fool Drew Brees.


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[Assistant] This is a cover three defense and Trey Boston who goes at first like he's doubling Michael Thomas.


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[Assistant] Drew Brees pumps to Michael Thomas but Trey Boston is looking at Michael Thomas and then starts to go to the middle of the field right? He's still over there on the right hash but it's not a true double situation.


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[Assistant] He's 15 yards. He's probably in the deep middle, really, except they're just trying to tell him with body presence to maybe stay over by Michael Thomas.


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[Assistant] 3-deep coverage, all the way. All the clues tell you it's 3-deep coverage. He's playing back to the field. Look, Eric Reid is coming down in the middle to be the buzz player, the other safety. You know, it is true 3-deep. Really, the, the, the travesty of this is Bradbury24, who's playing 3-deep coverage,


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[Assistant] Bites on the slant. And he doesn't need to. Because as you can see here, there's a nickel corner there to take away the slant.


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, see him? He's here. He's there. He's ready. So, you have nothing to do over there. Why are you chasing him there? You have help inside.


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[Assistant] Michael Thomas makes the move and Drew, Drew throws a great back shoulder throw and it's a 20 something plus yard game and all of a sudden now we're, we're one more completion away from field goal range and you're in Screwedville, Ron Rivera. Yeah, I mean that's where they were. So that's really what it came down to.


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[Assistant] Don't fake doubling them. Just double them. Actually do it. Actually do it. I just, you know, again, make somebody else beat you. If there's one thing we know about


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[Assistant] The Patriots, who are they going to throw to on a big play? Who are they going to throw to? Julian. Exactly. Same thing with them. That's what, I mean, how many times do we have to see it before you just lie in it? Before somebody takes it away. Right.


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[Assistant] Blowing them out. There was a number of big pass plays that, you know, DK Metcalf dropped two big pass plays, one for an easy touchdown. Russell Wilson missed a wide open touchdown pass in the end zone where he's scrambling to his right. And he has one of these throws, Paul, where it's just like, here, catch it. And he sailed it like five yards over his head.


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[Assistant] They had some of that. Both quarterbacks had a little bit of that. Yeah. Well, Carson Wentz had a lot of that. Carson Wentz did not throw the ball great. Uhm, you know, again, Seattle's defense is coming into its own here because we're seeing again for the second game in a row, their defensive line can really be dominant even without Clowney and


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[Assistant] You know, the offense, even though not having its best day, Russell Wilson's always gonna make a few big plays, you know that.


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[Assistant] You're right. It's like, you know, hey man, you know, you look at it and you go, man, Seattle's kicking the shit out of them. And you go, what? They're only up by, they're only up by 10? You know, they're one of those teams that does that a lot where they kick the shit out of teams but don't


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[Assistant] You know, necessarily blow you out because they are a little conservative on offense. When they really want to make a play, it's just like, hey, run straight and Russell will throw you a dime.


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[Assistant] You know, Russell's Flea Ficker pass, that was an unreal throw. Um, Rashad Penny got going, you know, cause Chris Carson, he fumbled twice, you know, he got lucky and I think recovered both of them. I just want to make sure that, uh, so he only got one fumble. I think the other one was an exchange with him and Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then, but Richard Penny, if they can get him going, he's got talent, he's just always hurt. And back to Philadelphia, yeaah, Wentz, not great. Hey, the Eagles offense, it's not great. You've heard me say it a million times. There's just, there's nothing to be scared of.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I, I think it's, I think it's there, it's towards the bottom three quarter, if not the bottom, like, one quarter.


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[Assistant] You know, any quarterback, all of a sudden you start to pat the ball a little bit extra, or, you know, am I seeing this clearly, and you leave a guy, and you go somewhere else, you stand in the pocket too long, which I do think is one of Carson's problems at times too, like, just get out, make it happen, go. You know, they're not gonna get open.


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[Assistant] You know, you know, uh, you know, uh, our Sego Whiteside is not all of a sudden going to pull away from people. It's just not what's going to happen.


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[Assistant] But one of the six games, Doug Peterson would go in the category of, he also needs to reinvent himself a little bit on the offensive side of the ball. He does. I, I do believe that. Uhm, but, you know, the Eagles defense is still really good. It's just the offense is not helping them out at all right now and they're in trouble.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think he's sending a message here. I don't think this is emotion. I think he's like at his wits end and he's...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I get it, but he's also going away. This is game number 11 and it's the 11th game in a row where I have the more talented team on the football field and we're just over 500. Wait a second. The other team has Tom Brady in the best defense in football and he had more talent? Yeah. I don't, I won't even bat an eye at that conversation.


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[Assistant] I mean, first off, Dak Prescott or Tom Brady is a very close conversation. I'd probably go with Dak Prescott at this point in his career, okay?


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[Assistant] It's, it's, I'm not trying to be a hater on Tom Brady. Tom Brady is 42, okay? Dak Prescott has played unbelievable football. You know, we saw it last week. We saw it the week before. He's been doing some really special things. So we can't take away from that. Running back, you're giving the Dallas. Offensive line, Dallas. Defensive line.


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[Assistant] Dallas. The only thing you're definitely giving New England is secondary, and it's not like Dallas is bad in the secondary. So that's a game they should've won? Well, I'm not saying they should've won. If they're more talented. Well, yea, they should've. Yea, yea. And then I just watched the film, they should've won the game. They should've. Yea, but they don't know how to coach their team the right way.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, I get that too. Well, this is part of coaching too. Did Dallas not read the weather report all week? I mean, did Doc Prescott not know they were gonna play in a monsoon? I gotta just go verbatim here.


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[Assistant] It's little things when you play New England. Like the first drive. It's second and six. He throws a perfect ball over the middle of the Blake Jarwin. What the f***, Blake?


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[Assistant] Turn up, get the first down. Blake decides all of a sudden he's gonna, he's gonna dance around and make somebody miss. Oh, you know what happened? He didn't get the first down. Now it's third and one. Okay, it's third and one.


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[Assistant] You're the Dallas Cowboys. You have five franchise offensive linemen. And the highest paid runner.


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[Assistant] The, the, the, the, the, the Patriots have two defensive linemen on the field. And we're gonna try to throw


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[Assistant] Throw a play, okay? And so I wrote this. It's third and one. Pats have two d-linemen in, in the game. I wrote run the f***ing ball. And then, I go...


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[Assistant] Gonna run the play, and then they run the play that they run ten times a game for the last ten years. I mean, they ran a play that it was the first play Bill Belichick taught his defense this week. I promise you.


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[Assistant] It is a shallow cross followed by a slot slant, right? And then the outside guy runs a go or a post, whatever you want. This is what they do. This is a Jason Garrett, Norv Turner. When Jason Garrett was the quarterback for Norv Turner, the Dallas Cowboys, it's their special. So I just wrote that. I went,


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[Assistant] Man, so have run, they've run this play 10 times a game for the last 10 years. I wrote, are you kidding me? Okay? That's verbatim for what I'm writing.


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[Assistant] Alright, and then I wrote, so far, 24 verse 89. That's what it is. It's just man to man. The, the, the Patriots didn't do anything crazy coverage-wise. They played man to man, and they played a few, and some snaps of cover too. That's all they did. Okay? I wrote, Dak, here he is, he's lost control out of two of the first five throws of the game.


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[Assistant] Uh, I wrote Gilmore's Patience, the line of scrimmage is phenomenal because that's very hard to do against Amari Cooper.


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[Assistant] I wrote Cowboys Run Game. Is working. Is working. Yeah. Okay. I mean every time they run it up the middle it's four yards, it's five yards. I said,


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[Assistant] Now, you know, I did say Pat's size and ferociousness I think surprises everyone. Blake Jarwin caught a ball over the middle and got whacked by a bunch of guys. He fumbled, he ended up recovering it, so that was good. But now I get later in, and this is the theme of the game. The theme of the game is third and short, and this is where Dallas blew the game in my opinion. It's third and two. Guess what?


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[Assistant] Two D linemen in the game, okay? Two D linemen in the game, okay?


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[Assistant] I wrote, Pats would run the ball. They wouldn't even think about it if they were on the side.


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[Assistant] Dak throws a shallow cross after a bad snap that goes into the air, right?


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[Assistant] And he throws it, and first of all, the protection's great, he picks up the ball, and he panics, and throws the ball to Omari Cooper to shallow cross, and throws it four feet behind him. Interception. So now you have a block punt and interception. The Pats offense can't do anything, but they're up 10-0. They're up 10-0.


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[Assistant] If he just, if he just sat in the pocket and went to his next read, he's gonna have an in-cut behind it for first down. He's got it. But he does that. So here we go, 10-0 Pats. Alright, now.


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[Assistant] I write a, I write after this. It's a monsoon. And there's two D linemen on the field and you have Zeke and a franchise O line at all five positions for the second time. Okay. They decide that was the play they did. That was, that was a third and two.


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[Assistant] Uh, third and three when he threw the interception. What are you doing? Okay. So then I read, so far, when they run downhill, it's four yards every time. I'm sorry for all the swears today, but this way you can get me. Your dad would not be happy.


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[Assistant] I wrote, guess what? Next drive, crushing in the run game. You know what? It's third and two. What do they do? There's two D linemen on the field.


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[Assistant] I wrote, again, I wrote, see above, as in like, they have five franchise offensive linemen in Zeke, okay. Now, Dak puts the glove on, cause he's missed like five or six throws. It's 6.46 in the second quarter, we're gonna put the glove on. We've had a hundred warm-up throws.


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[Assistant] And now maybe 15 to- 10 to 15 game throws, and now we're putting the glove on, now we realize it was hard to grip.


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[Assistant] I just, I'm annoyed. You think someone should have told him? Yes, or he needs to tell himself. I don't know what was going on there. But I mean, WTF I wrote after that. It's 646 in the second quarter, WTF.


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[Assistant] Exactly right. Brady doesn't wear gloves. He doesn't have to. This isn't Brady's first rodeo in New England weather in November. He's good. You know, that's, you know, Dax played down in Dallas. It's a half dome. They don't get games like this. Go with what's safe in this game.


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[Assistant] Okay, next drive. You know what happens? They get a third and four. You know what they did? Did they run it? They ran it up the middle and guess what?


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[Assistant] Yeaah! First down, holy shit! Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point. Yes! Okay. So, I'm writing, New England's not doing crazy things. They do man coverage or two-zip zones so far.


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[Assistant] First play of the second half, okay, and then that's it. So there, there I go. And then I just go into, you know, Zeke missed, I thought, a chance for the first play of the second half. Anybody who wants to pull up that play and watch it over again. If he makes a cutback, he's gonna run for a 30-yard gain. His vision has been an issue with me all year. I just wanted to point that out.


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[Assistant] And then they get into the second third down of the half.


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[Assistant] And it's third and three. And guess what? Did they pass it? There's one d lineman in the game this time. Just one. Wow. And they throw it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Were you watching this game by yourself? I was jumping up and down. I was sitting right in here just doing the film. Yeah. Now when we watched it yesterday in the viewing room, I go, you know, and again, we're trying to watch different things. We're getting ready for a show. But I go, I even said to the guys, I said, I feel like they're running the ball on them. Am I missing something?


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[Assistant] Uhm, but they just, they went into it with the old Dallas mantra. This is my issue with their coaching staff. We're gonna do what we do. Oh, no, no. How about you do what you gotta do to win a game like New England does? Always. You know, New England doesn't care about sex appeal.


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[Assistant] Oh, it's the Super Bowl against the Rams? Yeah, it's the most boring Super Bowl in the history of Super Bowls. But we're gonna do whatever we gotta do to win the game. And we felt like the best way was to make it an ugly defensive game, and we'll win 13-3, and Brady will make some big throws in the end and we'll win the game.


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[Assistant] I mean, honestly, it's gotta throw, I gotta throw it on Jason first. He's gotta be the bigger man as the head coach to go, hey, hey, Kellen, you know, let's, let's run it here. Let's run it on here. You know, Belichick would get McDaniel's ear. Hey, hey, this, this is a rundown starting too. They got one D lineman. Run it, run it.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, to end it all, the worst thing of all, more than anything, is the kicking the field, though, the 13 to 6. Yeah.


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[Assistant] That just made no sense at all. And I don't know any other way to say it. But it's 13-6. About halfway through the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, but the way the game was, Patriots haven't drove in the ball game. They got 10 points off of 20 yard drives. So, well, what's to make you think all of a sudden they're going to run the clock out? They've done nothing to show that they're going to do that.


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[Assistant] You know, if you don't get it, they're gonna have first and 10 from their own seven yard line. Right. Great. Let them have it. Right. But you go for the touchdown there. That was a bonehead decision. And you said that half the time too, right? Yes. I couldn't believe it. I just could not believe it. Now it was great for all the people betting out there. Cover the spread. It's 13 and nine. Right.


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[Assistant] It was, it meant nothing. What, what changed about it? The Cowboys still had to go down and score a touchdown the next drive. So it did nothing for you. You go for it right there. And you know, what changes there on a third and seven? It's a third and seven and they can get the first down. It wasn't even third and goal. So they could have got a first down, but you know, again, third and seven, run the ball up the middle.


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[Assistant] Get yourself into fourth and three, fourth and two, who knows, you might, you might get a first down, right? Right? You know, you, you score a touchdown and who knows, you might stop New England and get the ball back in the short field and the field goal is going to win the game. I just did not agree with the approach to the game. So I guess is what I'm saying is I'm seconding Jerry Jones and his cryptic talk on the coaching.


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[Assistant] That's, yes, hey listen, he's the only owner in football that would do it.


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[Assistant] I, I get you, you know, but I just think he's at his wits end. It's par for the course for Jerry Jones, okay, this is what he does. He's the only owner in football that, you know, holds the state of the union after a game. So, you know, this is what he does. Well yeaah, and this is what he does. But I also think


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[Assistant] You know, him and his sons are going, man, we've done everything to put a really quality roster together. You know, we kind of just went through it.


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[Assistant] And we could really say the only two positions we would go, okay, if you want to take Brady over Dak Prescott, fine, I got no problem with that. In the rain, I'll take him all day, obviously. Brady was throwing piss missiles everywhere, through the rain, through the wind.


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[Assistant] This is why Brady's special too. Like, you know, people want to nitpick Brady or Drew Brees and they're both going for the touchdown pass record right now. To me, there's no comparison. You know, Tom Brady's got to play three months a year in this weather and this crap.


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[Assistant] You know, he's gonna get into December and January and he's gonna go outside and he's gonna have to throw the ball in 10 degree weather. Right. And things like that. Drew Brees.


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[Assistant] has a reputation for not even be able to play good outside, let alone play in some of those elements. So you know, Brady's greatness and


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[Assistant] New England and everything. They just play to win the game. They don't care what the final stats say or anything like that. But the big thing is the Jones family I'm sure is at their wits end because they feel like they have spent a ton of money and they've done a great job scouting of really putting together a team of Adonises. They're a team of Adonises.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, well it was a great effort. There's no doubt about that. But they schematically had them in a tough bind. And again, Bill's an ex-special teams coach. And that's what they do. And they still got Joe Judge up there. And they're, they're, they don't, there's no stone. Fair enough.


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[Assistant] Well, I think the other thing too is the short kick, the short kickoffs that Dallas kept letting bounce and then they got bad field position. You know, so I think those things, it was all those where he kept going, what the freak is going on? Can somebody come up there and catch it?


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[Assistant] I think the big thing is Brady made some big throws in the elements. That would be one thing. I mean, he just, he's amazing that way. And that's why New England is believer of quarterbacks that are, they have a certain size.


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[Assistant] You know, height, weight, speed, hand size, element where they won't draft you. Because they know they're gonna have to play in some games like this up in the northeast this time of the year. And Brady is amazing that way. He was really unaffected by that. He played smart. He really made no bad decision all da- I don't care what the stats say.


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[Assistant] He did exactly what he had to do to help win that game. And you know, they were a little unlucky too. I mean, I wrote, I wrote down, I don't even know if you saw it, but like 27 Jordan Lewis, you know, he held Julian Edelman.


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[Assistant] I mean, pulled my jersey off, but he doesn't like go crazy and like start throwing things like that. They just, they keep playing. They keep playing. And it goes back to WWB, WWBD. What would Belichick do? And that's what he would do. He would tell his team to shut the up and stop begging to the refs and just keep playing football.


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[Assistant] That's a good headline. That was mine. Way to go. I think that's the way to get from this guy too. Tremendous accomplishment by Frank Gore. I mean, it's really, it's amazing. You know, cause I don't view him in the class of Walter Payton, Barry St. James, Smith. I don't either.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a test of longevity and consistent really, really toughness and really, really goodness. I don't necessarily want to say great. You know, I know I sound like a little bit of a hater.


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[Assistant] Exactly right. Is he a game changer to me like Adrian Peterson was? Was the team and offense based around him ever at any, you know, not really.


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[Assistant] I mean, the 49ers teams, they were gonna run and be tough because that's what Harbaugh did in that time and they were so physically good. Talk about a team with a bar fight. They would have been, they would have whooped the shit out of everybody in football like for a three or four year period. Right. So, you know, he was part of that, but yeah, I don't view him as in the class of


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[Assistant] AP or LaDani and Tomlinson or some of the other, you know,


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[Assistant] His skill set is what scares teams, because he can throw 60 yard lasers over your head, and then of course he can scramble on a third and 13 and get 15 or 20 yards, and then their defense is playing good. And again, this is a defense, I just want to make sure, but they're number three in football.


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[Assistant] You know? And again, they're only letting up 184 yards per game pass-wise. I mean, they're playing strong. Epic stuff, right?


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[Assistant] The, the, uh, Matt Casey, who's one of our producers and everything, he's a Jets fan, you know, he came away with a comment here, and I'm stealing what he said, but he goes,


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[Assistant] What's the, you know, what's the difference between the Raiders and the Jets? And I was like, you're right. You know what the difference is? The start of the schedule to start the season. Because the Jets had the toughest first six games in football. And now they've won three in a row. Exactly right.


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[Assistant] They got a good run defense. Adam Gase is a phenomenal game planner. So he always gets like the offense off to the right start. I think this is like four or five weeks in a row. They scored a touchdown on the first drive.


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[Assistant] Donald's in a little bit of a groove. They're finding ways to get the ball to Robbie Anderson.


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[Assistant] And, you know, hey, the Raiders rely on that run game, the Raiders


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[Assistant] And kept them in the game. And Tyrell Williams dropped two. I know, uh, you know, Hunter Renfro dropped one or two. So, hey, in the NFL, you do a few of those things when another team's hot, you're gonna get blown out. Plus, you know, yeaah, to steal what Tony Dungy said, he goes, the Raiders look like a team.


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[Assistant] That's traveled to the east coast for a one o'clock game and they're playing in bad weather going, I don't really want to be here. And that's kind of what it looked like.


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[Assistant] I've kind of been banging the drum for this for the last few weeks. And, uh, you know, I know last week, I think we talked about this with my dad, you know, with him getting bashed over the head by Miles Garrett got lost in translation that he played absolutely pitiful in that game. Right. And to me, this is, this is two or three weeks late.


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[Assistant] It really is, but you know, the big thing is, is they drafted them and they gotta make sure their draft pick succeeds and all that, but hey, you're gonna get credit for a free agent guy you got off the streets is gonna be a better, a good starting quarterback. So stop worrying about where you draft the guy. You're not gonna be right about every draft pick in the history of the world. Bill Belichick's missed plenty of second round picks. Right. Doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] And he doesn't sit there and go, I'm gonna play him because I drafted him in the second round, I'm gonna play him. He cuts his ass and plays the free agent. Like nothing, he doesn't even think about it. That's part of football.


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[Assistant] Oh, the Bangos are going back to Andy Dalton. Yes. Okay, that's good. I said this on the PFT this morning. They need to go back to Andy Dalton.


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[Assistant] They want to win a game and not end up 0-16. We've seen enough from Ryan Finley where I will say I was wrong about my draft evaluation. It hasn't looked good. Now, it's not always good that you start a guy and in two of his first three games he gets to play the Ravens and the Steelers defense. Like, oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right? Uh, yeah, so, but yes, Andy Dalton gives the best chance and that's what they should do.


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[Assistant] Yes they have, and, uh, you know, BLEEVLAND! You know, just, uh, yesterday, they left no doubt. They didn't let the Dolphins hang around.


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[Assistant] They were clearly the dominant football team. They kinda jumped on them early. Uh, they didn't mess around. And, you know, Baker Mayfield, I thought, threw the ball phenomenal. They found the ways to get the ball to Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham Jr. Gosh, it's the first time all year that both have caught touchdowns in the same game. Wow. That's insane, right? Yeah. You know, Nick Chubb, uh, he had a hundred yards rushing.


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[Assistant] You know, again, and their defense is well coached. You know, it stinks that they have no Myles Garrett, you know, who's the best player on their defense, but he's a bonehead and did a bad thing. I don't know whether there was other way to say it, but the Browns are dangerous.


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[Assistant] They pose matchup problems for any team in football. And we've seen, they can play with the big boys. They beat the Ravens. They, and we went,


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[Assistant] Patriots game. They were there. I mean, they turned the ball over three times in a row. They had a long stretch at about a month. Stupid crap.


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[Assistant] The Seattle Seahawks game. They outplayed Seattle. They turned a bunch over in that game.


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[Assistant] Well, I just think the, the, the last three weeks when they beat the Bills, the Steelers, and they haven't, they've just, they've stopped shooting themselves in the foot. The Bills, the Steelers, the Dolphins game, I think that's the thing that's jumped out to me. There hasn't been that bad fumble or that stupid interception or anything like that. And it just shows they're maturing a little.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I have two or three every week, and you know, Nick Chubb was fumbling one here and there, and yeah, it just wasn't, it wasn't pretty.


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[Assistant] He, he, he's gonna give them something to think about.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, yeaah, you're right. Why wouldn't they? You're right. That's who you're really. You're right. Straighten me out. I think you're right.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, they, they, they were. He, he, he hits what's there to be had. He does not leave yards in the field.


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[Assistant] He's a really good deep ball thrower. You saw he's very athletic and can make some big time runs in a game. Right? Uh, so that's the big thing more than anything. You know, so like the things Mar-Mariota did not do is he did not consistently hit the open receiver.


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[Assistant] Hannah Hill doesn't miss the open receiver. Plus, he'll hit the receiver every now and then that's really well covered and throw the perfect ball.


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[Assistant] So added that, hey, Tannahill was much better in Miami than people want to give him credit for. You know, he had an ex-teammate and his wife who jumped on him a lot, alright, not even going to say their names. That like kind of gave a bad stigma around him. Now that ex-teammate and their wife went up to Tampa Bay and somehow didn't say anything about Jameis Winston for two years.


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[Assistant] Challenge flag, you're bullshitters, okay? So, yeaah, that, that I have issues with. But, uh, either way, Tana Hill was much more successful in Miami than people want to give him credit for. Health, saying healthy was his biggest issue. And, uh, yeaah, you know, now that you say it that way,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think there is a chance that at the very least he's earned himself another year to be the starting quarterback and see where it goes from there.


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[Assistant] Whoa, I love dogs. I got two of them. I got, I got a black shepherd and a Karen terrier named Toto. So I have Bentley and Toto, right? And Toto, my Karen terrier thinks he's very tough now that Bentley, my German shepherd, who's 90 pounds is behind him. He's and he goes out in the yard because, you know, he's got a big beast behind him.


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[Assistant] Benley. Benley does? Alright. Benley's a tank, yes. He's only like 8, 9 months old and he's like 90 pounds.


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[Assistant] Uh, but the National Dog Show is awesome. What's better than a dog? I mean, come on. How about nearly 200 dogs of every size, shape, and color competing for the title of


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[Assistant] Yeah, Driscoll and Churbisky. Hey, it's a tight one. Yeah, it's a tight one. I don't know. But, uh, either way, Thanksgiving at noon, I know I will have to flip back and watch that. Okay, because


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[Assistant] My Aunt Wendy loves the dog show. So I'm, when there's commercials or anything like that, she's gonna be, hey, can you flip to that? Because of course football's gonna be on my house. No disrespect to NBC.


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[Assistant] At your house in Thanksgiving. That's my job, I gotta watch football, so, uh, how much what? How much family.


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[Assistant] Uhm, my brother, my sister, you know, there's significant others. My sister's two kids, my aunt, my uncle, my mom.


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[Assistant] Big Phil is gonna work on the set for Dallas Buffalo, but he'll be there later that night. So we'll have leftovers heated up for him, and he'll come in and go,


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[Assistant] He's getting beat up a lot on a week to week basis. They don't have a great offensive line. But my biggest issue with Daniel Jones, if anybody's been listening to podcasts, is he just holds the ball in the pocket too long at times.


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[Assistant] You know, and I don't see a lot of like egregious like, oh I'm holding the ball carelessly and I'm scrambling around. A lot of the times he's like, you know, two hands on the ball and he's looking and he's so focused downfield that somebody just swats it away and that's really been his biggest issue. A little more awareness of what's around him and a clock in his head I think would be the biggest issue.


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[Assistant] Well, like you said before the show, you'd rather have a quarterback that's like that, who's fearless in the pocket, than the other way around, who's just leaving the pocket at any, you know...


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[Assistant] Feel of a pass rush. But the Bears often still


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[Assistant] You know, nothing special. There's nothing to talk about there. Their defense is the story.


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[Assistant] You know, even when Trubisky threw two interceptions, the defense bailed him out.


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[Assistant] You know, Kahlil Mack sack fumble that you're talking about that led to a three play, three yard touchdown drive that put the game to 19 to seven, which ultimately decided the game. I mean, because, you know, the Giants did score a late touchdown where, you know, Daniel Jones drove them on a 97 yard drive and threw a ball under pressure into the back of the end zone of Golden Tate. And that was, that was a big play.


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[Assistant] If you had a really good backup, yes, but they don't have a really good backup. And I think they're, they're, I think they're gonna stick with Churbisky. I think they are. Unless it's, if it's like three picks in the first half, then he's gonna get benched. If it's just one, and maybe like one draft one, I think they stick with him.


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[Assistant] Oh, weiter via. Via, weiter. Weiter via, Vegemin.


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[Assistant] Be the man. Look, I had you thinking, you were like, wait, hold on, which one is it? I double check it here. Yeaah. Yeaah, that was awesome. But Godwin. Godwin's a beast. Right? He is. I mean, he's gonna get paid with his next contract.


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[Assistant] The Tampa Bay Buccaneers whooped the crap out of Atlanta. That would be the thing I took away. After like the first drive or two, I mean, Atlanta's offense was suffocated. Jameis Winston threw two bad interceptions during the game.


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[Assistant] Uh, but again, you know, he throws an interception early on in the game and then just comes back and throws a fearless pass down the fence. That's just frustrating. That's like we talked about with dad last Wednesday. He does some things where you just go, man, that's as good as anybody in the game. But he's always got two or three plays where you go, that's as bad as anybody in the game. Uh, but that was, that was a surprising butt whooping.


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[Assistant] Can't lie, didn't watch much of this. Did you see what happened at the end? Oh yes, I saw that. I mean, hey, he's a really young kid. We've talked about this. I mean,


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[Assistant] It's not that important to go take the selfies right away. First off, let's not take any selfies. Let's just slap people five and get around the stadium and do that. That would be my first problem. We really have to stop and take the selfie. But either way, this is, you know, hey, this is a kid that he is still young. We talked about this in the draft and all those things. Did a few good things yesterday. He is still very raw. You know, I saw a few throws around, oh wow.


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[Assistant] Uh, but yeaah, he's got a long way to go. He's got a lot of developing to go and that's certainly not, you know, gonna make me feel much more comfortable about it right now.


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[Assistant] I was so glad that I was just gonna get, like, John Gruden off my back. I think that's more than anything. Uh, yeaah, I don't know, I definitely- 2004.


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[Assistant] Redskins went off twice, went off sides twice on the game tying extra point.


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[Assistant] We started a tackle, a right tackle who had never played right tackle in his life.


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[Assistant] And the late great Will Smith, who was shot in a traffic incident down in New Orleans, he blindsided me, drove me to the ground, and hurt my shoulder. Uh, yeaah, that hurt, that one, that really was, that, I mean, that was like where I wanted to literally cry when the game was over. Uh, Greasy was the third string quarterback, got to come in, and uh.


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[Assistant] He was there to lead before that year. He was a part of our team.


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[Assistant] Uh, all through training camp and OTAs and all of that. Yes. So if anybody wants to know, think about whether I keep it real with people I know or not. I think I kind of went hard on the Cowboys and their things today. You did. Okay. So I know and I hope Jason doesn't listen to this, but, you know, I hope he does. Yes. He does. All right. Ravens Rams. Are you taking the night? Ravens Rams. Yeah.


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[Assistant] This Rams defense is real. They will give them some issues tonight. I do believe that. I'll take Rams 28-27. 28-27. I'm gonna go with some points in this one. Yes, sir. Okay. Alright. Alright. We'll see. I'll bet you $5. A handshake. $5. It's our first handshake. It is. $5. Does it bother you to actually like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and be safe and traveling to your holiday destination, but tune in for the Wednesday picks, because I think I beat Flo Rio this week. Peace. Love that. Say bye.


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[Assistant] Yo yo, what's up? Come on man, subscribe on YouTube to Chris Simms Unbuttoned Podcast. I need you, please hit the subscribe button, please!


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[Assistant] I had pretzels, chicken fingers, fries. Everything you can imagine is there. I know it is, I know, yes.


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[Assistant] Ravens, Seahawks, okay, that's the first one. And Packers, Raiders, that'll be the other one. I don't know which order we're going in. Paul will tell me that when we get there. But either way, those are the two games.


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[Assistant] And we had a lot of other things that were fun yesterday. Interesting. Rams putting that ass whooping on the Falcons with Jalen Ramsey. Uh, thought that was cool. I mean, Jalen Ramsey, what a freak of nature. We're gonna get to that. Yeaah. I mean, it really is. Uh, the Saints and the debacle which we call the Chicago Bears. We'll get on that for a few minutes.


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[Assistant] Uh, the cult's reminding us, hey, we're still good, don't forget about us, just cause we were in a bye week. So all of that, gonna do it, uhm.


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[Assistant] He is here! And then, I don't really know if I even belong next to these two, okay? No, I don't belong. Yes, you don't have to answer it. I don't belong.


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[Assistant] Is this gonna be every show? Yeah, it could be. I have a little thing with like, uh, with, uh, the mascots and all that anyways. Like, I used to do a thing on my old podcast, like mascot battles. Yeah. And a seahawk.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they don't want to see a raven. They just don't. A raven's gonna take them to town a little bit.


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[Assistant] No, it does not. It's, it's like, you know, we've, we're hitting on all cylinders now.


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[Assistant] I don't look at it anymore to where, oh, we're being careful. We're still trying to learn some of these schemes and doing this. And I don't want to put too much offense in the game plan because I don't want to flood everybody's brain early on in the season. It's every week. It's more and more plays. It's more play action passes. It's better drop back pass game design. You know, of course they're run game.


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[Assistant] They have creative wrinkles within that every week. You know, the run game didn't take off yesterday. Why? Because the Raiders played stacked boxes for the majority of the day, which led to beneficial looks in the passing game while Aaron Rodgers tore them up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Paul, uhm, the offense is like, it's, you know, Rodgers is awesome. Yep. But the offense is good. It really is. It's got everything in it. Like if I was a quarterback, I'd go, I would really like this to be like a lot.


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[Assistant] Sure, well I think the first thing is a little more like patience with the run game, especially the first few weeks, which makes everybody as the season goes on go, hey we gotta stop the run, hey they run the ball, we gotta stop the run.


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[Assistant] No, not great, not great, but it's been set up by six weeks prior of running the ball, at least with attempts and some games having the yards. So there's that.


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[Assistant] Plus, their own line is getting better as far as run blocking, because they haven't really done it a lot last few years. It's all been pass block, pass block, pass block. You said their pass blocking is phenomenal. It's phenomenal. They're still one of the best pass blocking lines in all of football.


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[Assistant] But I think the big thing is, is the, so far the endless inventory of play action passes.


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[Assistant] Whether it's out of the eye formation, uh, or eye formations to receivers to the left, they have a lot of different ways where they can attack you.


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[Assistant] And that's a dangerous formula with Aaron Rodgers. Oh, run the ball. Oh, we're going to creep towards the line of scrimmage. Oh gosh, now they're going to go send people down on 50 and 60 yard routes downfield.


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[Assistant] And we got to expand and get deep and he's making the right reads and throws off of that, not forcing the issue. You know, there was a few times yesterday where yeah, they called deep play action passes. The Raiders really dropped back deep. He throws it underneath and the guy gets 10 or 15 yards and he made a five yard throw. But that's because of


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[Assistant] Their formula right now and the pressure they're putting on the defense and especially what they've missed there is the vertical downfield aspect.


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[Assistant] Game plan, the first play of the second half. It's a, uh, uh, uh, uh, corner post, right?


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[Assistant] And, and, you know, those are things I look at, where I bet you...


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[Assistant] Their rule has been if there's a single safety, the guy reads it on the fly and runs a corner, he'll attack the single safety.


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[Assistant] And then run to the corner. Well, they made a change up this week. They probably said, you know, we've done this a few times, so let's do the opposite. Oh, the single safety is there. He runs out of Mike. He's gonna run the post. He leans to the corner and then goes back across the face of the safety and Rogers hits him in stride for a big game.


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[Assistant] And then, but it mostly goes back to their run game again, because just think if you're a D lineman with those things, you know, yeah, it's a good.


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[Assistant] You know, five seconds to let all that happen to get down the field. But the first two seconds are wasted by defense alignment because they're going, Oh, I got to stop Aaron Jones over here. And then they go, Oh no, it's a pass. And then they got to try to gear up to rush the passer. So it does, it all plays through the run game. And I mean, really.


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[Assistant] Ever since the Eagles game, I feel like it's just gotten better and better every week, and it's rolling right now with what they're doing on that side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Raiders too bland, okay. They're just, that's the first thing. Raiders are not real talented on the defensive side of the ball. They're young.


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[Assistant] But they don't have a difference maker on their defense. There's no star. At any level. Not really. You know, there's a lot of, there's some good, but there's no like star where I go, man, that's, you can put that corner on an island against anybody or that guy right there coming off the edge. If they don't chip him or double team him, he'll ruin a game. But that D tackle, if they don't run away from him,


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[Assistant] You're screwed. They don't have that guy right now. Now they will eventually and they have a ton of money to spend, but I thought


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[Assistant] A little too overzealous with, we're not gonna let them run the ball on us, alright. So too many six, seven man boxes according to whether it was, you know, shotgun or underneath the center. Too many optimal pass looks. And then added to that, you know,


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[Assistant] Probably too long to adjust to go, you know what? Rogers is on fire today. We need to put another safety back deep and play too deep a little bit more. I thought they waited too long to kind of make those adjustments and they don't disguise. And that's, that's again, a thing that, you know, when you play the greats,


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[Assistant] Uh, Rogers, Manning, Brady, those kind of quarterbacks, you, you gotta make them think at some point here and there.


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[Assistant] You're not going to confuse them. But if you don't even make them hesitate. Exactly, that's the word. You want to make them hesitate every now and then on a big play. And he came up to the line of scrimmage and went, oh, yep, okay, it's 3D.


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[Assistant] Okay. It's man to man with a single safety. Okay, cool. And then that just makes it too easy on him. And then you see what a master he is. You know, some of their passes yesterday in the drop back pass game.


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[Assistant] Here comes all our pressure. Let me get to the play. So those were the mistakes they made, let alone...


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[Assistant] I know, without Devonte Adams and a bunch of guys where we go, you know, who is that? I click on the computer, I literally say who is that? I know. Where did he go? Valdez Scanling can run, he's long.


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[Assistant] Okay, so he's got some speed to stretch a defense. Geronimo Allison in kind of the same way.


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[Assistant] They're not like real, real great route runners, but they're big bodies. They have big catch radiuses. Eight receivers caught at least two passes. I mean, yeah. I mean, then you got Kumaro, who's just a big white guy on the edge, where I look at him and I go, I think I can beat him in a race, but I know I can't. There he is running open.


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[Assistant] I think it's more this year than I've ever seen. I've seen other years where like, you know, again, not to, uh, knock, you know, who's the guy on the NFL network? James Jones, right? James Jones on the NFL network, you know, he couldn't,


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[Assistant] Go anywhere and be a part of an offense. And then he comes back to Green Bay and he leads the NFL in touchdown reception. With a hoodie. Right. And that's because 12, 12, oh, you're covered in the end zone, I'll put it here. Oh, you're covered in the end zone, I'll put it here. And he was great at catching balls and traffic and doing that. So Rogers has that ability to kind of


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[Assistant] Because defenses are a little bit like, man, what are they about to hit us with next? That's another formation, another personnel set. Gosh, the fullback's in, they're running it. Oh, it's a bool, like it's a play action. Oh, it's a quick drop back pass. They got it all going, and uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, the big turning point was the end of the first half. That really changed the game. We'll talk about that in a second on the other side of the ball. But Derek Carr reaching out, trying to get the touchdown, fumble, touchback, they go down and score.


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[Assistant] Now, if you remember the play, he hits Kumero down the right sideline. There's a miscommunication between the corner and the safety. The safety...


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[Assistant] Is mad at the corner after the play's over, which tells me the corner messed up.


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[Assistant] Because he gave him like a, you were locked or you were supposed to be hammered on him. He was supposed to be man to man. And the corner played it like cover too. So he kind of like jammed him and then turned around like he was looking for somebody in the flat. And by the time he realized, oh man, nobody's behind me to help me.


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[Assistant] You know, Rogers has already thrown a piss missile, and it was a touchdown, and that was that. Right. And then the second half starts. Yeaah. And he throws a bomb to Valdez Scandling, and all of a sudden now you go, whoa, the Raiders were about to be up 17 to 10.


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[Assistant] No, I think they're going in the reverse order, really. I mean, it's like the, we started the year with like, oh Packers defense, please help us and carry the offense for a little. And now I feel like since that Eagles game, it's gone the other way.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the biggest issue is I think their interior part of their defensive line. That's where their compromise there. And, you know, Kenny Clark, who's their nose tackle, he's a good player. He's the only really, you know,


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[Assistant] Good player in that unit, because then you get into the other guys, uh, Lowry, 94, 95, Lancaster,


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[Assistant] You know, BJ Goodson at middle linebacker, Blake Martinez, who's a good athlete and a good player, but not a difference maker at middle linebacker. They're, they're soft in there.


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[Assistant] I don't want to play man to man here, but I'm worried that they're going to rip it up there with Josh Jacobs for 20 yards. And I got to kind of put my corners in an uncomfortable spot. And that's kind of the issue they're in right now with the Packers. They're going the wrong direction.


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[Assistant] Where four weeks ago I said, this defense is good.


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[Assistant] And they might have to carry this team for a little while. It's almost the opposite now. It's the Packers offense is hitting the elite stage.


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[Assistant] You know, teams like the Saints who have good offenses, the 49ers who have good offenses, right? The Minnesota Vikings, they've improved too from the last time Green Bay's played them.


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[Assistant] Um, to where their defenses are more talented than Green Bay and we're seeing their offenses are very good too. Now they don't have number 12 and that's always going to be a little bit of a equalizer for the Green Bay Packers. And the fact that they do stay with the run game and they are a capable of


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[Assistant] Bonafide, oh, we expect you to get 14 to 15 sacks a year. They're more of like, you know, they're great run, they're just all around good football players. And because of that too, I think that Petten has some moments too where he goes, man, if I want to get pressure on the quarterback,


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[Assistant] I need to blitz every now and then to get there, uh, and that compromises them a little too. So it's a little scary with the Packers defense. They never stopped the Raiders yesterday. That's the point. They never really stopped them.


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[Assistant] They didn't dominate them. No. I mean, it's gonna be a shootout.


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[Assistant] It mattered to him to know, like, you know, I think it's situational awareness this goes back to. You know, what was that play? Second and two? It was second down. It was second and two or second and three. Like, there was no reason to do it. And they had not shown a sign yet of stopping your offense. So, there was no, like, desperation.


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[Assistant] Yes, I mean, definitely. You know, so to me, the big thing is lack of situational awareness or letting the emotions of the moment get your best of you. Where you should have just been like, oh, I'm not going to turn the corner. Oh, we all want to score a touchdown. I get it.


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[Assistant] But like, Brady would've gone, oh, we'll get it next play. I'm not gonna like lose the game right here. Right. No, I'll tuck it in and just go down. Or Rogers, or those guys. They would've realized like, oh no, I don't need to do it right here on this play. It's not that crucial. Right. And I think that's where...


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[Assistant] For $25 million a year and then you're in what, year six of his career or somewhere in there, I would expect him not to like make that kind of mistake anymore and kind of realize the moment. That's where you're just like, gosh, come on, Derek, you're better than that. Right. You know, and, you know, and again, I don't know the way Rodgers is playing and to your point,


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, the Packers probably are gonna win the game no matter what.


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[Assistant] You know, there was, that's, they had not stopped them. They start the second half.


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[Assistant] You know, yeah, the, the, the Packers score, let me just make sure I get this right, the Packers score on the first drive, okay, and then, no, I mean, they get the ball back and go right down the field and score another touchdown.


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[Assistant] Okay, so now it's 28 to 7, okay? Packers get it again, go right back down the score. It's 35 to 17, I meant to say 28 to 17, okay? So now it's 35 to 17. Now, let me take you through this. More straight drives, and in a touchdown. Right, right. So now, but now it's 35 to 17, and you know, Packers are totally in control, but the Raiders go right back down again.


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[Assistant] Well, they get stopped on the third and fourth goal, goal line stand. Uh, Jake, Josh Jacobs tries to jump over on fourth down. Jair Alexander comes around the edge. He hits him. So that stops that drive. That could have made it 35 to 24.


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[Assistant] Now, I don't know what happens, but I'm just gonna say, either way, the Packers go three and out the next series, the Raiders get it again and go right down again. And he throws a ball in the back of the end zone where he's gonna try to throw it up to Darren Waller, and that gets intercepted.


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[Assistant] And then, that's when the Packers, a few plays later, he throws a long touchdown pass, and then it's the game over. It's 42-17. Uhm, so, yeaah, it's games like that against, as you know, superstars, gods of the sport, like Aaron Rodgers.


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[Assistant] We're losing 42 to 17. You know, that's, that's what life is like. I mean, I've saw it when I was sitting on the bench playing against paid Manning. I played against Tom Brady. It's like, I was like, man, we're standing toe to toe to them. I looked up in third quarter. I was like, we're down 28 nothing. Right. Right. But, uh, that's, that's what happens there. Um, and yeah, just from reading your notes.


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[Assistant] Getting me there. Uh, Jacobs is special at running back. He really is another guy week to week. I just go, man, I mean some of the cuts, some of the, you know, running through tackles. Good receiver too. Good receiver. He runs with more power than


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[Assistant] I really thought he would run in the NFL. I mean, not only is he capable of breaking ankles, but he can run over linebackers and safeties. I mean, ask, ask Adrian, uh, who was it? Adrian Amos early in the game. He went up there and tried to tackle him and he, the next thing he knew he was looking up at the sky going, whoa.


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[Assistant] Clouds look pretty today. You know, so he is phenomenal. Uh, he really has superstar ability as far as your running back. And I think as he gets more and more comfortable, we'll continue to see that. And then Darren Waller.


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[Assistant] The guy is in the combo for the best title, George Kittle's the best title in football. I don't think there's any, like,


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[Assistant] He's in that conversation. I think he is in that combo. He's better blocker than those two. He's better after the catch than both of those two.


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[Assistant] So, again, I know he doesn't have as many pelts on his horse to say, like, I've been doing this for years and years, but what I've seen through the last four or five weeks especially, he's featured in the offense, he's big.


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[Assistant] That was smart. Get out in front of it, because like in another year from now, he's gonna be asking for 14 million a year, and they're not gonna have to worry about that. Alright, Packers, one game up on Minnesota in the NFC North. Okay, yeaah. Yeaah, I'm in the NFC North, holy cow. Well, those two are both good, but alright.


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[Assistant] I got to talk about the Roto World Football Podcast.


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[Assistant] Every Monday morning Josh, every Monday morning, Josh Norris and the guys recap every Sunday game on today's pod. He, he and John Dagle, okay, talked about Matthew Stafford throwing fade routes, which is special. And I want to play a little part of that right now just to hear what they said.


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[Assistant] Well, I would say it's more than Stafford. I mean, it jumps out to Stafford, one, because he's got talent and he can throw missiles to where you go. Whoa, that looked different. I don't know why, because, you know, he'll drop down and sidearm it and you'll be like, man, that was a 30 yard back shoulder rifle. Uh, Rogers does it.


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[Assistant] You know, Brady does it too. And really, what dictates that, and I don't know in your history, as far as quarterback play, like, you know, sometimes we called it.


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[Assistant] I was on some teams where they called the back shoulder. I didn't like that. Or they just called the fade.


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[Assistant] I found the times I was the most successful with it was when like, just let me and Joey Galloway figure it out. Like, if the guy's on top of Joey, I'll throw a laser at the back of Joey's head and he'll turn around and catch it. If Joey's got a step, I'll loft it down the field and let him outrun the guy and do it that way. I don't know how you did it.


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[Assistant] He's related to me. Your pop? Yes. Really? They, they really did. If you went back and who was he throwing it to? In like 1984, he started, they started doing it to guys like Lionel Manuel and then Bobby Johnson. Steven Baker. And I, I watch old games cause I'm the nerd kind of guy that still does that stuff.


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[Assistant] Like, I'm watching and it's Bob Trumpy on NBC. Okay, my dad's playing the Kansas City Chiefs in 1984 and he's like, it's like he's intentionally throwing it behind these guys. And, and dad will tell you, he goes,


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[Assistant] And he started to realize that teams would play over the top of them. Yeah. And he just said, well, I guess we could just throw it really hard right at the guy and they won't be able to react in time. Next time he's on. Yeah, ask him. Is he calling today? No, he's calling Wednesday. Okay. Which, uh, are you going to be here Wednesday? I heard I wasn't. Oh, what an asshole you are. Yep. One day a week. One day a week, Birdmeister. Not invited.


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[Assistant] I like it, yeaah, cause that's what it is. The headline has to be Kirk Cousins. How could it not be? Yeaah, like wow Kirk Cousins, wow, eat shit, all you Kirk Cousins haters, I mean that's really what it is. Three weeks ago.


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[Assistant] And so Floriano, I have, Floriano, Florio and I have a bet on our Thursday podcast. I picked the Vikings to win this game in Detroit. I really, I thought and he was, he's, you know, he's Mr. Doom.


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[Assistant] If the Vikings win, will you wear a Kirk Cousins jersey on the show on Thursday on PFT?


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[Assistant] And he said yes to it. Rumor is he's, he's purchased it. He has. He said he purchased it yesterday. He said he won't tell me what he got, like what color. He was gonna get a Redskins one. Could be a Michigan State. Or a Michigan State. He said that. Yeaah. You know, that would be kind of a low blow too. He needs to get the Vikings one. There you go. But Cousins was phenomenal. And...


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[Assistant] This is gonna be like, it's weird and you just gotta trust me. They're like, they're a lot like Green Bay.


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[Assistant] Uh, where it's just- It's become bootleg and play action endless, endless.


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[Assistant] Anybody out there, go look at the highlights of the, the, the Minnesota Viking game from yesterday. Every play is him rolling out after a bootleg, like I faked the run to the right to Dalvin Cook and I rolled out the left, or it's I faked it up the middle and I dropped straight back and oh, there's dicks for


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[Assistant] It is, it's all there. And it all again goes back to like we said with, you know, a lot of these good offensive teams right now. This is the new way in the NFL. It's run first.


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[Assistant] Run first and they run the ball first because Dalvin Cook is a super freak and he's arguably the best running back in the game. So they do that and they make you go, okay, you ready to stop him? And defenses go, yeah, we got to stop him. He had a quiet 142 yards. I mean, he's never seen anything like it. Oh, by the way, he broke a


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[Assistant] It's not just the same run scheme week. It's not like where I got worried with Kubiak was gonna be inside zone, outside zone, inside zone.


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[Assistant] No, they're pulling guards and doing a lot of different stuff to where I go, okay, teams aren't just going to be able to hone in on one running scheme, and then I see different versions of play actions and boots on a week to week basis that are going to keep everybody honest. I don't think this is quite as good as Green Bay and what I've seen just as far as the diversity of plays, but enough there, uh, and then when he's throwing the ball that way,


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[Assistant] Plus he's got two guys that when you want to stop the run now, they're one on one on the outside and Diggs and Thielen, and I know Thielen's going to be banged up, but they can beat just about any corner in the sport when you give them enough time off of play action and boots to work people like that. Right.


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[Assistant] And the guy pulling the trigger calling the plays. I mean, he deserves some of it too. You know, you have to at this point. It's not fair. I mean, Trubisky, yes. I've given up trying to defend Trubisky. I was a defender of him last year. He's worse this year than last year. He's missing more throws this year than he did last year. And he wasn't perfect that way. Last year, at least, he was making scrambles and runs.


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[Assistant] Oh, bye week. Oh, the three yard out route. We came up with the three yard out route in the bye week. We're killing people. The five yard out route. Whoa! Oh my gosh, the Bears are reinventing offense in football.


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[Assistant] You know, again, like, you're watching them. What are they good at? What are they trying to do? I don't know. Right? It's a different formation, a different shotgun, it's every all over the place.


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[Assistant] Now I would, I would wanna, like, I hear what you're saying, and I'm sure there's managing of Trubisky.


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[Assistant] But the only thing I'll throw back at you is, goes, the offense looks shittier with Chase Daniels, and supposedly he knows it inside and out. I mean, that's all I've been told. The full offense is in with Chase Daniels, which I hate.


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[Assistant] You know, a little bit of this, like, I enjoy that Matt Nagy's getting this back in his face a little bit because I feel like he was setting up Trubisky from early last year with some of these excuses. And, oh, I've seen Chase Daniels in three games now and it's the same shitty offense when he's in too, so that's not fair. Trubisky, it's not good. The Bears offense is not good. They can't run. They can't protect.


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[Assistant] They're not coached that well, so that's a disaster. And then it filters over to the defense. The defense is still phenomenal, but when you're out there every four plays, I don't care who you are. The 85 Bears are going to break eventually in this kind of game, right? Right. And then, uh, yeah, the Saints are big. They're physical.


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[Assistant] You know, they never panic in the game. You know, their defense is really phenomenal up front, as we've talked about. And I think Dennis Allen's gotten more creative with things he does in the back end. Which defense would you like better? Or do you like better? Well, I think the Bears defense still is more talented.


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, I do. But I mean, the Saints defense is playing better right now. They are. I mean, they got the mojo going, but they're playing complimentary football. You know, their offense, they run the ball, you know, Teddy Bridgewaters.


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[Assistant] Come on, if the Bears don't return that kick yesterday, there's not even going to be a game.


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[Assistant] He's a baller, but- You need more than that for three hours though. I know, I need D. If I was gonna really have the most fun, I'd wanna go with Sean Payton. I think I'd have the most fun with him.


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[Assistant] I think we could get into some trouble together. You're right. Yeah. So that would be the guy I'd really want to do. Let's go, Sean. Let's go have a few drinks. Let's talk some ball. I'd love to do that. But their defense now right now with


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[Assistant] You know, Cameron Jordan, Davenport, you know, uh, Amanata in the middle, Malcolm Brown, DiMario Davis at linebacker, you know, Marshawn Latimore, they got some ballers on that side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Yes, I mean, I think that's, you know, the area I would go to. Welcome to Hollywood. I mean, Hollywood beats Hollywood. I mean, that's what it is because he is a superstar.


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[Assistant] First off, no football in three weeks, and then it's, hey, you're gonna practice for like two or three days, and then we want you to cover Julio Jones. Oh yea, no problem. Only one of the freakiest people to ever walk the planet.


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[Assistant] Well, I think the, the thing, and I will be, I will watch this film for sure, and yeah, we're not even, I, I don't think they've scratched the surface of the things they're going to do, but I noticed a few times, like,


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[Assistant] I really respect Jalen Ramsey. I know everybody loves him and I don't get why. It's probably because he shuts down everybody's receiver and then he gets over them and talks shit and nobody likes that so they hold it against him. But that's the way a coroner's supposed to be.


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[Assistant] And he's gonna, their defense is gonna feed off of his attitude and how much their lives get easier cause of the things he can do and who he can shut down and then, you know, then they can be creative like we said.


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[Assistant] They took Julio away, the pass rush was all over Matt Ryan, I mean it's not even fair, I mean it was like the damn broke every play.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, you know, the Falcons, they met their match with a team that's got talent and enough coaching to kind of figure out, like, the Falcons aren't reinventing the wheel in their pass offense. They're trying to just, hey, they got all the basics you want in an offense, and then Ryan's good, and Julio's good, and Ridley's good, and they just make it happen.


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[Assistant] When you play another team that's got talent like you, and then a coach that goes, hey, when they get in this formation, they do a lot of this, and when they get in that formation, they do a lot of that. That's when trouble hits, and that's when you get your ass whooped 37 to 10.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that, that rubbed the Shanahan family, you know, the wrong way, the way that all ended there. And, and you know, of course I know a lot of what went down and I can't share that with everybody, but it was issues. And I didn't even hear all this, you know, I, of course, Kyle's told me things. I mean, yeah, Kyle's my buddy.


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[Assistant] I know other people on that staff too. There was, there was issues there. And there was a lot of sabotage that went on. You know, by the higher ups. The sabotage of Shanahan family. So yea, they were bitter. And they were lucky it was a monsoon yesterday. Cause I bet you Kyle would have tried to score 50 on them. Right. And probably would have.


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[Assistant] Uh, if it just played out that way. The rain is the only thing that helped the Redskins in that slop fest because, you know, the 49ers are the faster team, the more physical team, the more creative team, and when you get like playing in three inches of water, everything gets easier.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, they did it to the Rams and Jared Goff. I mean, yeah, even though the rain helped yesterday, it tells you they're real. It goes back to the old thing, you know, I think it's the most ferocious defense in football.


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[Assistant] You know, as, as you know and anybody that watches football, their front four gives them a great advantage because they don't have to blitz. They can get there by themselves. Even when they want to go, ooh, it's second and six. It's a run pass down.


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[Assistant] They can go, you know, let's play the pass. Our front four will trust them to handle the run if they do it. And that's a great luxury, right? That's a great luxury for that team. Uh, and yeaah, the 49ers are the real deal Holyfield.


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[Assistant] They had a fourth and two, right? They had a third and 15. He makes a 13 yard run. The game's tied at 13 all. Yep. And now he comes off and he's pissed because he wants to go for it on fourth and two. And here's the replay.


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[Assistant] What? That just gave me chills. That gave me chills. Because you know what, if you just saw it without the sound, or if I showed you the TV version, it almost would look like Lamar Jackson was yelling at his coach. Like, hey coach, you're stupid, let's go for it. Like, right? But the coach asked him first, you want to go for it? And then he backs him up. Hell yea coach, let's go for it.


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[Assistant] I mean, Seattle's, you know, they're an NFC playoff team and then to go up into Seattle. Okay. And I love to say this. All right. So I'm going to say it, but Baltimore out Seattle, Seattle in Seattle. Yes.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, Seattle is, we're the home team, we're the bullies, we're gonna out physical you.


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[Assistant] Our quarterback's gonna make a few freaky plays to win the game, and we're gonna send your ass home unhappy. Well, it was the exact opposite. It was our defense was the bullies. We're gonna create turnovers with our defense, and then our quarterback's gonna be the freak show out here today and make a few plays that'll be the difference in the football game. And that's what I mean by that more than not. This was a very close football game. It really was. I mean, it's gonna go down to the end.


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[Assistant] If the mistakes aren't made by the Seattle Seahawks. And, you know, I don't know, where do you want to start? You want to go Ravenzell or Seahawks? What do you want to do?


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[Assistant] You know, uh, it's man to man, and we're just gonna pack the box, and it's just, okay, here I got it. There's no disguise, because nobody wants to get out of, you know, out of position in case, you know, they snap the ball, set hut, and all of a sudden they have two guards pulling to the right, and you're like, oh, we were disguising a blitz to the left.


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[Assistant] And we were gonna move back, you know, so teams are scared to do that. So they're always worried about, hey, let's play simple.


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[Assistant] Because let's get our run fits right so he doesn't gash us for a 60 yard run down the middle or Mark Ingram doesn't gash us up for 12 yards every time. So he gets a lot of optimal passing looks, which is fine. He's getting those looks


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[Assistant] Because of him and his talents, you know, and that's why they're getting them. So they don't need to reinvent the wheel in a pass game a lot of the times because they get, they can run some.


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[Assistant] You know, his design quarterback runs, their ability to stay patient with up the middle runs with Edwards and Ingram is because of his ability to get on the edge and scare people that way, let alone his scrambling. Uh, that is the other thing, and that's really


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[Assistant] You know, that's where the game was won, oddly enough, was not the quarterback design runs, and we'll get into like, some of the plays that happened for the touchdown on the fourth and two, but, you know, on the first drive of the game, you know, or I want to say yea, it was the first drive of the game. One of the big plays is,


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[Assistant] Is a scramble. Five man rush. I hate five man rushes. You know that. Yep. And if you're gonna rush for a five man rush.


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[Assistant] Somebody's gotta be accountable to where Lamar Jackson is. And, you know, just to paint this picture for everybody, Lamar Jackson's in the shotgun set, HUD gets the ball, they blitz the nickel corner off his right side, right?


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[Assistant] Okay, now, so he sees that off his right side, so automatically he's already scooching to the left, cause he goes, oh gosh, that guy's not blocked, I gotta kinda scooch to the left to buy myself time. But within that, the defense end on that side, is stunting and looping in.


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[Assistant] So there's no contain. So now he just gets to run around the edge for 30 yards. His two biggest runs of the day came on five man pressures with


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[Assistant] Bad gap integrity or bad, you know, awareness of Lamar Jackson and his skill set and they were game changing moments that helped his offense out.


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[Assistant] But yes, it's a credit to him. It's amazing what he's doing. He does not take a lot of huge car crash hits. He has a great knack of like, oh, I'm about to get crushed. Let me get sideways and get to the ground. And yeah, he gets hit, but nobody gets him square.


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[Assistant] And, you know, it's, it's a, uh, and his throwing is good too. Now, you know, yesterday, you know, it wasn't his best day, but they decide to play like, oh, our defense can stop their offense and we're going to run the football and we don't need to take chances passing the ball. And he played it the right way from, from that standpoint.


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[Assistant] No, it's not, but they, they have like, okay, so let's get into like, you know, the third and fifteenth.


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[Assistant] They're third and fifteen there. The game is thirteen all.


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[Assistant] Yep, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, the game's in full, it's a huge moment. Alright, so they get in the shotgun.


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[Assistant] And they spread it out. The back's next to him, he's got a back to his right. They let the back, like, fake the run to the left as he goes across to the left side of the formation. And he keeps the ball. Now, within keeping the ball, the center pulls, the backside left tackle pull, and now here he is, versus a too deep look, right?


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[Assistant] With only one linebacker in the middle, because they're thinking it's third and 15, they're going to throw the ball, surely. Right. And the tackles, defensive tackles are wide. They pull it up there, and now he's running scott free with two guys in front of him as everybody's trying to converge, and he gets 13 yards on a third and 15. Right. Very next play.


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[Assistant] Now, you know, we just saw the clip. Let's go for it. Yea coach, let's go for it. They go out there. There's not one running back on the field. And there's not one wide receiver on the field. So they have, again, to paint the picture.


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[Assistant] They have, it's a heavy set. So one of their tight ends is an extra tackle to the right, alright. Now there's an actual tight end outside of the tackle tight end, okay. So they have, what do I want to make sure, four big people to the right.


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[Assistant] They have a tight end to the left, and then they have their big defensive tackle, number 42, who I'm blanking on his name, but I'm gonna pull it up right now.


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[Assistant] Who comes across in motion because he plays fullback and defensive tackle for them. That's how much of a, like a bunch of mean th- Baltimore Ravens are. Oh, Patrick Ricard, okay? Who's 6-3-3-11. That works. He comes in motion.


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[Assistant] Set hut, and now they block down, block down, and pull the guard around, and he smashes it up in there and basically goes untouched for a touchdown.


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[Assistant] That was a huge moment of the game. I mean, you know, let alone some of the things they create on the defensive side of the ball. But that was the changing point to where, oh no, yeah, Baltimore is taking control right now. They have the momentum and, uh, really never relink relink wish that really from that point on.


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[Assistant] They did, they did a great job stopping the run. Like, like I said to you, the, the game plan run game did not work for Baltimore. You know, the stats aren't like, you're not, Mark Ingram 12 for 46, he never got off. You know, Edwards 8 for 35.


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[Assistant] You know, the 14 for 116 yards from Lamar Jackson, as I told you, 70 of it were on two runs that were drop-back passes where he scrambled against five-man rushes.


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[Assistant] Uh, which in both cases I believe led to six points. Uh, but it flipped the field and it got them down there close and as we know they have a field goal kicker. If you get within East Bumble, he's gonna knock it in. Right. So that's another weapon they have.


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[Assistant] The Seahawks defense, excuse me, I still think we haven't seen the best of it. Okay. I don't because Anza wasn't healthy and didn't play yesterday. Their first round pick Collier is really just becoming somewhat of a force.


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[Assistant] Clowney's a force, Clowney's a beast, and Jaron Reid will be a beast, uh, but they're gonna need their D-line to be true ass-kickers, cause I don't think they have a great secondary, and I think some of the good quarterbacks in all


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[Assistant] Ravens defense, it's a matchup league. You know, you could blow one team out one week and then play another team that got blown out by the team you just blew out. But they have the certain matchups that make life hard on you, as you know. And the thing that the Ravens have that make life tough on the Seahawks is they have a


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[Assistant] I mean, they're growing. They must have a tree in the back of the Ravens facility with like, here, there's a 310-pound D-tackle. Oh, let me pick that one. There's a 320-pound D-tackle. So, they're able to go like we were just talking about. Hey, front four.


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[Assistant] Stop the run. You guys just make a mosh of it and then we'll be creative in the backend and with coverages and things we do.


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[Assistant] So that's their first big is, advantage is that they're so big up front and they're not afraid to get big when they want. They'll put 4D tackles on the field.


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[Assistant] And they go, everybody's 300 pounds, but you're not gonna run the ball over here. You know, that's what I respect about the Ravens. Guys like, uh, Brendan Williams, number 98, uh, Pierce, number 97. And I'm gonna pull it up, cause I wanna, I want people to read, like, what they, Michael Pierce is 6 foot 3 40.


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[Assistant] Good luck moving him. You said six feet. Six feet, 340. Right, yea, you're not moving him and if I'm joining the fight with you, we're not moving him, okay? Brandon Williams is 6'1", 336.


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[Assistant] There's their 2D tackles, where also number 93 Chris Wormley's usually in there at 6'5", 300 pounds. And then they got gigantic guys like Purnell McPhee playing outside linebacker at 265, 270 pounds. Matt Judon's over 260. So, and the physical, oh, we're the Seattle Seahawks, we're gonna bully you with our running game. They're not gonna bully this team. That's just not gonna happen.


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[Assistant] In addition to the size, you mentioned that they're so well coached. Yes, they are.


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[Assistant] Thurr goes back to like our Raiders conversation and things we talked about. Disguises, changing up the looks. You know, I have, I bet you Russell Wilson and Schadenheimer had a hard...


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[Assistant] You know, this third down, they ran this coverage. Now it's this third down, they ran this coverage. I can't get a beat on what they're trying to do to us today. So changing it up, and then with the addition of Marcus Peters,


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[Assistant] They have like four legit corners to where when they want to go, we're going to take a chance here. We're going to play man to man. They can all cover. You know, Brandon Carr is a weak link. He's up there in age. But this is the Marcus Peters, this Anthony Everett.


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[Assistant] A-V-E-R-R-E-T-T. He's from Alabama. He was phenomenal in the preseason. He got hurt a little early in the year, so he's just getting back in the fold. But he can fly. I mean, he's like a 4'3 guy at the combine. And then...


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[Assistant] Marlon Humphrey, who's in the discussion for, okay, he's not Jalen Ramsey and Stephon Gilmore, but he's the next conversation down. He's somewhere in like, you can three to, three to seven in football as far as the best corners go. He's an island corner.


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[Assistant] We saw it. They played the Browns. They said, you cover Odell Beckham Jr. And a lot of teams doing that to Odell Beckham Jr. So that's how special he is, let alone


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[Assistant] My man, Wink Martindale, who was with me in Denver, you know, he's learned from guys like Dean Pease and you know, they're creative. It's a New England way of where, oh, we're going to take this away. Ooh, we're going to show this coverage, but play this coverage. They do a lot of the stuff we talk about that a lot of the good defenses do.


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[Assistant] Empty formation, okay. There's three receivers to the right. The tight ends to the right on the inside. He's running inside like the little juke route where he's got like an option route to work the middle linebacker. It's a single safety. They're playing man to man, okay.


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[Assistant] The, the thing that's gonna stink is Russell Wilson is he's gonna look over to the other side, okay? And so here's the routes. The tight ends run on the option round on the inside. Now the two receivers outside of the tight end to the right and the two receivers to the left, they're gonna run the same routes. The outside guys basically take a step and just turn back and look at Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] The inside guys run slot fades like this, you know, to where they gain depth and a little width as they go down the field. Well, he decides to play locket on Humphrey there.


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[Assistant] Not a good, most of the time on a lot of the big man to man situations, they put Humphrey on locket. And Humphrey got the best of him? Yes, he got the best of him.


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[Assistant] And he saw, he kinda looked at the fade. Ooh, I didn't like it. And as he's looking at the fade,


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[Assistant] He's seeing Marcus Peters on the outside. His body language and first few steps are, ooh, I'm gonna get back to help my guy with the fade. But within him looking, Russell Wilson,


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[Assistant] And now looking to the receiver who's out in the flat, Marcus Peters had stopped all, like, really quickly. Like, he never really went back like he thought he went. I know Russell just, you know, you see snapshots as a quarterback. He saw body language in a few steps, and he went, oh, he's going, let me throw to my underneath guy. And he never went.


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[Assistant] And the fact that they have these three corners now, you know, they can't rush the passer like they can in years past. So,


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[Assistant] I bet you they got Marcus Peters going, we gotta play some man to man and we're gonna have to blitz if we wanna beat Brady and people like that in the playoffs. Which is coming up in a couple weeks. Right, if they wanna beat Patrick Mahomes the next time around, if he's healthy and all that. I think they realized like,


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[Assistant] We can't win the way we were playing. We're gonna have to probably change the script for those teams, and that's why they go and trade for a Marcus Peters. At least that would be my...


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[Assistant] Estimation there, but Humphrey is the big player there that I go, ooh yeaah, he's special and he allows them to do a lot of different things. I also would question, you know, just the game plan overall.


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[Assistant] of the Seattle Seahawks. When you're missing two offensive linemen, I don't know, you know, what would make you think you're just gonna smash it down the Baltimore Ravens' throat of all teams to go, oh, we have no Dwayne Brown, we have no G.J. Fluker, no problem.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, okay, maybe against some teams, but not against the Ravens. I would have liked to have seen them maybe spread it out more.


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[Assistant] Yeah, pronounce the enunciation, pronunciation all good. Yeah, thank you, thank you. All Asians. Okay, speaking of pronunciation, the king of pronunciation is Mike Tirico. And the Mike Tirico podcast is always a good listen.


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[Assistant] Dungey, Rodney, so clued in with the league. Rodney talks to a lot of coaches and players. He's going to be able to give you a lot of insight. Dungey talks to a lot of coaches. So when they say things, I listen, because I usually am like, oh, they're not just saying that. They know this. So I perk up. And then Florio's all over the league aspect, along with Mike Tirico, who's


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[Assistant] Uh, just amazing in general, his sports knowledge and has a lot of connections himself to know what's going on in the league and steer conversations in the right direction.


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[Assistant] Check that out, uh, and watch it on YouTube. You know, we started this tradition where I have to remind Rodney every week to tackle Torico when we do our little on-field segment in the pregame. To literally tackle him. We did like a rehearsal this week.


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[Assistant] Took him to the ground. For real? Like, for real. On accident? No, no, not for accident. Rodney plays too rough. Rodney's like, you know, the wild pit bull that got free. You're like, oh no, what's he gonna do? He went in and grabbed him and lifted him up and put Mike to the ground. Really? Yes, it was hilarious. It was great. Just dropped him. So that's worth watching, just in and of itself.


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[Assistant] Well, I, I, we're all in the room. The, the big, the big guys, the big stars, Tariko and Rodney and Dungey, they're up front in the front row. They get top viewing. You're not up front? No, no, I'm just, I'm just a poor little peasant boy in the second row. I'm not mine, I'm not, no. But, I don't care.


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[Assistant] I talk as you know anyways, I have a big mouth and I like just watching the games and I blurt out thoughts and we all do. So it's a great, it's a great setup we got to be able to watch them all at once.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean, cha-ching. That's, that's what we're saying. It's about time we cashed in, you know, Jerry Jones, like damn, about time I got some returns on my money.