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[Assistant] Yeaah, listen, it's a great conversation, it really is. You know, like I even see here, we had a question here by At Compass Traveler, right? You wanna do that one? Well, yeaah, just read that.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, there is value to that. There is. I still think there's greater value in being on the field than learning that way, as you know. Unless it goes like this for Zequals.


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[Assistant] You know, Geno Smith, it's been a long time. Geno Smith has gone beyond practice field. This is 10 years later, so it's not a development process for him anymore. Yeaah, there is value to that. I understand that.


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[Assistant] But I think there's more value to playing. And I think again, that's where I argue. And I know that's where like Tony Dungy was on my side a little bit too. If you're trying to build a culture and something for the future, you stick with your quarterback through those lumps right there.


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[Assistant] And you just keep fighting and going through because you would have got the win yesterday and you would have gone, Hey, I know he didn't play good against him, but look, he played pretty good yesterday against the Bears and we're six and two with him as a starter and we're going in the right direction.


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[Assistant] Right? So that's where it just upsets, to me, future plans, everything, and, you know, that's where, like I said, I'll have my popcorn to be ready for after the season. I have a hard time believing that it's gonna ever go back to Zach Wilson this year.


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[Assistant] Right, so that, and he's gonna get to end the game against, end the season against the Seahawks, another horrible defense, right?


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[Assistant] You know, so, uh, you got the Jaguars, where we know that's a pretty good defense, talent wise, and maybe, you know, give them some issues, but,


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[Assistant] All things there speak to me of a guy that I go, oh.


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[Assistant] He's gonna put up good stats against those teams. And he's gonna start a playoff game. Exactly right. And then your number two pick will be ruined, and you've ruined the situation. The Jets will have nobody to blame but themselves. Will be fascinating to watch. And that's fine. I mean, that's fine. If they're comfortable with Mike White going into the future, then that's cool too. It's not wrong if that's where they're comfortable.


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[Assistant] Big time win. I think you said it. To me, this was the marquee game of the day yesterday. And, yeah, Cincinnati, to me, just, they answered some questions again. It's where I start to go, oh, the Auburn's Lions turned the corner. They have. Not that they're great.


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[Assistant] You know, they're, they're playing good enough to where, okay, we do have to worry about the run, and it's just not a free-frawl around Joe Burrow. He does have time, you know, to make throws and do things the right way. And then, you know, you set a gutty. That's how I kind of like look at it too.


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[Assistant] It just, there was a lot of, hey, people around me, we got a five yard completion. People around me, I got a six yard completion. Okay, we're in a good spot here. Oh wait, now there's a chance for me to strike downfield for a big play? I got one on one outside?


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[Assistant] Because I've, you know, found the little dink and dunk spots in their zone and now, oh man, they're sick and tired of me kinda gutting it out here and trying to get those completions. Boom, back shoulder. Boom, go route. And then, you know,


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[Assistant] What on the defensive side of the ball, the Bengals are just ultra talented at all three levels. That's where I come at. And then with the DJ Reader being healthy and Hilton being back healthy, it just changes their defense.


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[Assistant] You know, you see, they're a tough matchup for the Tennessee Titans. They are. There's a reason they beat them the last two times they played. In fact, the last three times they played.


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[Assistant] Because if I remember correctly, Joe Burrow beat him before he hurt his knee is rookie year, right?


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[Assistant] So there's a, there's a, there's a, there's their kryptonite right there. A team that can stop the run, and they don't have to go like crazy all out to stop it, right? To where it's like we saw in Green Bay, now it's like Traylon Berks is on an island and it's just bombs everywhere, right?


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[Assistant] You know, so they didn't have to go all out there. And, uh, then I think the other thing that just gives them problems is, you know, Burrow and just his ability to...


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[Assistant] Oh wait, it's a crazy zone? It doesn't matter, I'm just gonna find a completion. No, it's a crazy zone here, okay, completion. And he can kind of pick them apart that way, and then of course he's an assassin when he gets one-on-one coverage. But, uh, yeaah, that was a really big win. And it, it, to me now, I put the bangles in that team of, okay, I'm not maybe gonna say that the, the Bills are the Chiefs, but,


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[Assistant] They're, they're trending in that direction where I go, they're in that next class of teams right below them and starting to look like the team that went back to the su- or went to the Super Bowl last year.


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[Assistant] I mean, 1 through 6, I really, exactly right. I think you said it right. 1 through 6, I went, I just go, uh.


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[Assistant] I mean, damn, all those teams are good. I could see any of them in the Super Bowl. I really could.


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[Assistant] And Cincinnati, if they can protect like that with Burrow and just give him a chance and Jermar Chase gets healthy, the way that defense plays, yeaah, I think they could, they could have a say again.


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[Assistant] Maybe upset an Atlin Mahomes championship game, show rematch and things like that because they just, they got it all. They're really not a weakness in their team when their O-line plays the way they did yesterday.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel like they're protecting him a whole lot better. And in that playoff game last year too, you know, even they got physically dominated, the thing, the biggest thing that helped them was Tannahill and the three interceptions. Yesterday, Tannahill played good football.


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[Assistant] Right? So they, you know, they had to play, they had no advantages here as far as turnover, short fields here. They had to earn it. And I think that's, you know, the difference between last year and this year. And we'll see. Again, in Tennessee, you know I'm a believer in them. And I do think that,


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[Assistant] You know, we're seeing two weeks in a row here, Trey Lemberg starting to come on. Maybe they're starting to find a guy here that can, you know, take some pressure off of the pat, the run game on a consistent basis and make them a little more balanced that way.


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[Assistant] Definitely, definitely. They got two number ones in Cincinnati. Yea. I mean, would he be a superstar one? No, but he'd be, I mean, definite 1100, 1200 yard type of guy. And again, that's just where I try to argue with people like,


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[Assistant] And, and I don't, I'm gonna go here, but like, when people try to go, well, Gabe Davis, Gabe Davis, so the Bills, look at Josh Allen, and I'm gonna go, Gabe Davis is not even the same class as T. Higgins. T. Higgins is a guy, like, when it's one on one, you gotta go,


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[Assistant] Uh oh, like we're taking a chance here. Even when you got Xavier Howard on him against the Dolphins, whoever. He's got tremendous size and then he's faster than Gabe Davis and he's a pretty good route runner and he's pretty good after the catch. He's got it all.


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[Assistant] They're gonna have to juggle some things around here to pay him and then have to pay Javar Chase in a few years too.


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[Assistant] That's the crazy thing about it. It is the crazy thing, right? Right? I mean, their two stud defensive tackles are not even playing. What are they going to look like?


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[Assistant] You know, I think when you talk about the 49ers, yeaah, the conversation starts with the defense. It's the best in football.


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[Assistant] Best in football. It's the best in football. It is. It is. To me, it has everything, especially when they're gonna be healthy. Cause to me, they're gonna have, oh wait, you got a big offensive line and you wanna run the ball? Fine, we're big. We can do that and stop that. Oh wait, we're playing, you know,


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[Assistant] Josh Allen or a passing offense with a quarterback that can scramble? Okay, wait, we're gonna have to speed in. Some guys in the middle that are tall that can tip passes, do things like that. I think they got everything. I do.


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[Assistant] You know, and then just the little additions of Charvarius word to their defense from years past allows them just to, hey, we can dabble into man to man and, and play that. D'Amico Ryan's, it's, you know, incredibly


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[Assistant] Uhm, what do I want to say? Just, it's, it's, it, the intensity they play with, the way they attack the football and rally to the football, he's got great creative schemes.


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[Assistant] You know, and then he's really great in zone coverage. That's where D'Amico Ryan's is great. And the 49ers are great at passing things off. They pose a lot of problems for you. But right now, like you kind of said it, the defense...


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[Assistant] And they're not even 100% healthy. Jimmy Garoppolo is quietly playing really good football for about the fourth week in a row. Yea, eight total touchdowns. Yea. No turnovers during this four game winning streak. He's been really good. And you said it too. It's a 49ers offense. This is where they're scary.


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[Assistant] I don't think they're clicking yet. Their normal run game has not become dominant yet. They're still trying to kind of find their way there. You know, they're still rotating a guard in and out of the game a little bit. So I don't think they're playing as well as they'd like up there.


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[Assistant] Uh, but either way, when you've got a defense like that and Garoppolo taking care of the ball and just making a big play here and there, they're gonna be tough to beat.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, you know, I think the first thing that just pops to my mind is I just go like...


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[Assistant] I think taking advantage of some of the plays that are there to be had in the middle, I mean down the field a little bit, and he's just been on the money with balls over the middle in there. So, you know, again, it's just good overall play by him, and I think it's the lack of negative plays that make things look maybe a little bit better than we've seen in the past.


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[Assistant] I think you know by listening, you know, and us, and if you're listening to the pod, it just, there's some attributes to them. They're creative. You know, they do have some guys that can play some man to man. And they got some big dudes up front. Where I, you know, I wasn't shocked to see them give the 49ers off on some issues.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because of the bucks, right? The bucks aren't certainly running away, but I think we're, we're about


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[Assistant] We're getting close to saying it's over. I don't know, you're right. With the way the Bucks are playing and the way that looked yesterday.


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[Assistant] You know, again, I keep waiting for the Bucs to turn the corner, and I really thought that game in Germany was gonna be the moment. But no, the Bucs are with the Bucs. That's it. So we gotta stop, like, going,


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[Assistant] Brady's there and the magical turnaround at some point. At some point we just gotta go, no that's the reality of the team. It's 12 weeks in and they're just, they're just an average football team.


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[Assistant] I have more faith in him to make two or three plays at the end of a football game than I do on Marcus Mariota. And to me, that was a little bit of the difference of the football game in general. I was surprised Atlanta ran the ball on Washington like they did. That was surprising. But I think when you boil it down, yeaah, I just look at it and I go, I think Heineken and that passing offense are capable of, you know, just making a few game-changing plays that way.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then even the same, I think you could say, with the defense. The defense just has a little more sizzle as well. It was a really good game. The Falcons, you know, the appropriate game plan as always. But Washington, yeaah, with some of the studs they got on the D-line and then...


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[Assistant] Well, again, another game where I just go, look at the run game and what they're doing there with Brian Robinson. Um, yeah, the commanders are, they're a playoff football team.


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[Assistant] And this is not like, oh wow, the, the, the floor's gonna fall out from underneath them here, down the stretch. Like, I'm not saying they're gonna run the table, but they're not a game here where we're gonna go, oh, well, the, the commander's lost by 30. See, that's really the team there they are. Like, they're real. And, and, and Heineken, when he takes care of the football,


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[Assistant] Right, right, and you know, again, you know my thoughts on the Giants, they're more talented than the Giants, across the board. And I think the way they're playing right now, and the way the Giants are playing right now, yeaah, I would favor Washington in that matchup for sure.


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[Assistant] I think I did it both. I did it both. Post game show and pre game show.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, there's a lot of things I could say back, but, uh, uhm, yeaah. I will not be sporting that. I'm not a hat guy in general. So you wouldn't be an oversized hat guy. And I'm definitely not wearing that hat right there. No, that's just not happening. I feel like that was like somewhat of a, someone tried to make this a style a few years back.


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[Assistant] Look at, look at that. We have a video. Look at. Not a liar. Look at, what is he, he's drinking water. He didn't even make a face that's like, oh wow, I gotta get that down. Cause I'm hardcore like that. There's no way that Alvin Fareed drank at 11 on a Sunday. There's no way. I think that's...


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[Assistant] There's gotta be something there, you guys gotta put on the bottom there, like, you know, we're fugazies and we're not really drinking here. Uh, that was water. I will come clean. That was water.


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[Assistant] Way to go Washington though. Way to go Washington. Way to go Ron Rivera. I've never seen a guy where shit can be more turbulent and you're like


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[Assistant] Oh my gosh, it's all about to go bad. And then he writes the ship and we go six weeks later, we're like, they're good.


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[Assistant] I think it was it, right? We've talked about it a few times where I've just gone, waiting for that like.


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[Assistant] Hey, I'm the number one pick and I'm gonna bring us back and make some unbelievable throws to win the game. And this is why you drafted me number one. He's done everything else. I'm not trying to, I'm just going, this is the one thing we were waiting to see. Just some little more, wow, a little more, whoa. And yes, that was the moment to me yesterday.


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[Assistant] Again, because it wasn't like, oh he threw a slant and the guy broke a tackle for 70. He made like big time throws and big moments and look at some of the throws on the last drive of the game. Guys are covered. I mean the fourth and eight corner route on the right sideline. Marcus Peters doesn't really, he plays it pretty good.


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[Assistant] It's one of those where you go like, aye, I'm in a good position. I'm in a good position. Oh, the ball's, whoa, the ball got by me. Holy crap. He got it here. Like it was like those kind of throws. So that's where I love it. To me, you know, that's.


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[Assistant] That's a culture win right there. These are the games we keep seeing Jacksonville lose, and now this is where a young team can start going, okay, wait, we know how to win, but the Ravens came in the town, they didn't bully us, and we pulled it out. I, I, uh,


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[Assistant] I've always had a lot of respect for Doug Peterson, but I'm happy to see that for Trevor Lawrence and again the Jaguars team that's


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[Assistant] I think more talented than the record as I've clearly have stated all year long and that was a big victory for them.


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[Assistant] Of a top three, four quarterback. I mean that's, that's his ceiling. I mean this is, this is a guy that has Justin Herbert.


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[Assistant] I don't know if he can quite throw. It is great. I think actually potentially he has that in him. He's just not the machine Herbert is, right? But he is the type of guy that can be a top five quarterback for 10 years in a row.


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[Assistant] You know, the thing is, I'm watching this yesterday on play too, is just go...


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[Assistant] You know, he went through some lumps, and some bad interceptions, and they probably should have won a few games that they didn't win because he messed them up in the end of the fourth quarter. But they stick with him!


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[Assistant] Jets fans, that's why to me this is, that's why you stick with Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] Cause maybe three weeks down the road, you start to have moments like this. I didn't mean to go back there, but again, that's...


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[Assistant] You know, we've come on here a few weeks, how many times in the fourth quarter since it's Jacksonville, it's not in the media where we go, man, Trevor missed his throw or he, man, he missed us some touchdowns or he threw an interception.


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[Assistant] And, you know, WFAN radio and people like that aren't calling and going crazy in Jacksonville like they are up here.


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[Assistant] And it's just not the same type of pressure on the situation. Uh, but yeah, Jacksonville, the talent of their defense. Again, this was one of these games where I picked the Ravens to win, but I was, you know, this is a good matchup for Jacksonville and


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[Assistant] The thing that worried me yesterday, and we saw this when the Ravens struggled early in the year, when they don't have a traditional running game.


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[Assistant] You know, that's to me one of the things to look at with the Ravens. When you, you know me, I'm not a guy that will look at the box score. But if you're watching a game that is going along and you start to realize, wait, the running backs aren't running the ball well?


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[Assistant] That to me is always where I go, uh-oh, things are gonna fizzle as the game goes because the passing game's not that creative and intricate and we know the weapons aren't great there to where I go, uh, it's gonna be hard for them to carry or put the game away just through passing the football or Lamar scrambling.


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[Assistant] And that's what the game became a little bit yesterday. Uh, they're a different team when they can't run the ball the traditional way, at least a little bit.


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[Assistant] You're right, it is. It is something to say. You know, again, it goes back to our point of we see them play periods of football where we go, whoa, they look really good and they're controlling the football game. So it shows you their top end potential. But yea, there's some things they gotta, you know, refine.


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[Assistant] No, yeah, it's four losses and again, I think we get into it. The Giants came, they made dumb mistakes at the end. Lamar with the stupid


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[Assistant] Third and short, the ball snapped over his head, throws the ball. Yeah, that was just, I mean, that was dumb. There's no other way to say it. And then he gets strip sack the next play, right? So that's like opportunity they blew.


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[Assistant] The Buffalo Bills game, yeaah, there were some opportunities there for them to put them away and of course had the, a little bit of the going for it at the two yard line, right? He threw the interception, they took the touchback and gave them the shorter field and then they went down and got the game winning score. So yeaah, maybe a different approach and


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[Assistant] You know, next time Lamar, I'll learn from that. So again, I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm not alarmed by- yeaah.


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[Assistant] And as you know, I think Jacksonville is more talented than people realize.


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[Assistant] I guess so, right? It's more than I would like to have known about Jackson DeVille, that's for sure. Uh, there's no doubt. And then the, uh, the little, the hip thrust there, little pump action.


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[Assistant] That's what they had to do. That's what they had to do. Speedo thong for Jackson DeVille to get us on the map here.


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[Assistant] No, please don't. Let's not scare the kids and let's, let's, let them keep it. It did seem a little graphic. It did seem like- It was beyond graphic. It was way too much for a football mask guy.


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[Assistant] Win or lose at this moment. I think there's moments you choose, right? And I think in these two games, I understand it, because the game was one, hey, we're


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[Assistant] We're not as good as Baltimore, but we got him on the ropes right now a little bit. And we kind of got the momentum. Let's take advantage of it right now and go for it. And we're, we're not going to the Super Bowl. So what do we got to lose?


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[Assistant] So they have to worry about, wait, you know, we didn't play that good and maybe we were outplayed a little bit here today.


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[Assistant] And I'm afraid if we kick the ball off to them in overtime that they're gonna run the ball and then Kyler's gonna scramble for a big run and then throw a ball up to Hopkins and they score a touchdown and we don't get the ball back. I think that's a realistic thing you gotta think of if you're the Chargers. And just the way, the state of their defense. You know, but I will say them, you know, not a great day, being tough and


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[Assistant] The stats won't show this, and, and I know I gotta go back and maybe watch this game more thoroughly, but, Herbert was phenomenal down the stretch. I mean, I don't know, I just, I looked up and,


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[Assistant] Again, their offense annoys me because they can't run the ball all that well and you know they don't throw the ball down the field enough for me.


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[Assistant] But damn, I mean, just on, on the, on the fourth quarter, I just felt like every time I was looking over and, and watching, I'm going, just going, oh, another great throw. Ooh, tight window, jammed it in there. You know, he was, he was phenomenal. It was really about as good of a 35 completion, 274 yard type of game, you're going to say.


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[Assistant] This is, he's always effective this way. This is where, you know, you hear me get frustrated. They need to, he's got this great arm and they don't push the ball down the field. And I know injuries are an issue here with them too. But it's not in their DNA to do it. This Cardinals defense and their secondary is good.


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[Assistant] And when you're, you know, not healthy at the receiver position, and you know, not kind of hitting on all cylinders there, yeaah, they pose some problems.


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[Assistant] No, it's, to my man's supercharger's point.


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[Assistant] It just, it's, it's the placement of the football. It's the amount of plays where you go, ooh, there's really not much there, but he kind of put it in the one spot to get a completion that was available. I think that's what, you know, is more of like the, the amazing thing.


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[Assistant] You know, it's different of, oh wait, the guy threw it low and threw, didn't throw the ball down the field and it was a lot of underneath throws and it was a zone coverage and guys got to run after the catch and do all that.


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[Assistant] This was, wait, they're at the 8 yard mark, they're at the 10 yard mark, and they're covered, and there's a guy around them, and, oh, he throws it high and outside, like the only place he would, or low and inside, and where the only guy, only his guy could get it. It's just so many throws like that. And uhm, he is a...


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[Assistant] The savior of their team. We know that, you know, but I'll give them credit. Two tough losses, and they were staring down the barrel of, oh shit, we're about to lose our season right here against the Arizona Cardinals, and that's where Johnny franchise Justin Herbert took over.


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[Assistant] I was like a little surprised and not that it was an offensive showing, but I guess I was a little surprised at the way Arizona moved the ball on the Chargers at all. I thought the Chargers really kind of matched up.


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[Assistant] Uh, but the run game, put them in some binds and DeAndre Hopkins is still phenomenal. And Kyler Murray always, always finds a way to get him the football.


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[Assistant] I hear you. Well, you picked him to go to the Super Bowl, so that's why you're a selfish, biased bastard. But there are another team that, you know...


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[Assistant] The top 16's, and then, you know, 7 is the Jets, and 8 is the Chargers, and the Patriots, it's just...


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[Assistant] Wow. And if they got Joey Bosa back and they were coming to town with a healthy Mike Williams and Keenan Allen in the playoffs, right? Man, I wouldn't want to see that group. I wouldn't. You know, there's a lot of scary teams in the AFC. I feel like the whole AFC, I'm like,


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[Assistant] Definitely. I mean, it had a game where you just sat there and you went for so long, it was 17 to 10 and I kept going.


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[Assistant] The Bucks will put a drive together here and kinda put the game away. The Gups, the Bucks will put a drive together here and put the game away. The Bucks will do something here to go up by 10.


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[Assistant] And man, the defense stood strong. That's where I guess I'm a little surprised right there. You know, we saw the Bucs kind of get the run game going against the Seahawks. I thought they'd be able to run against Cleveland.


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[Assistant] You know, they looked like they had problems with Cleveland's speed, which is something I wish I would have thought about with a matchup a little bit. Tampa has problems with these smaller fast defenses, like the Rams. We saw them, it's an issue for whatever reason. And I just thought they would have a little more success kind of picking apart the Browns in the passing game.


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[Assistant] You know, it was few and far between. They couldn't really run the ball with great success. And...


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[Assistant] I just never would have thought that, you know, that the Browns would have slowly worn down the Bucks run defense as the game went along. You know, Jacoby made a play here and there and did all that, but man, the fourth quarter and everything, it just seemed like Chubb was, you know, found some running lanes and really put the Buccaneers defense in some tough spots.


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[Assistant] Now, Tristan Wurfs just got hurt, and I think it's gonna be bad.


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[Assistant] Alright, I'm saying good because I thought it might have been longer. It was the kind of injury where


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[Assistant] I thought, uh oh, he might be done for the year. I wouldn't, but I don't know if you saw the play, Ahmed.


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[Assistant] There was a blitzer jumping up in the air and the blocker pushed him and he went full fledged from like five feet in the air and landed on Tristan Worf's left leg. And I thought like at first I was like, Oh no, this might be Joe Theismann. Like when I saw it, I was going to, this might be like broken fibula, tibula, like tibia.


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[Assistant] And then, I don't, Brady's just not playing very good. It's, it's the other thing, you know, I know, I know everybody's a little scared to say that at times. There's a, there's a few quarterbacks in football we're not allowed to say them about, and he's one of them, but- No, you're not allowed to say that about Tom Brady. I know. More specifically. Oh yea, but it's, it's just, it's, it's, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's just nothing special right now. He's again, as I kind of have said on the Peacock show last night,


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[Assistant] We've hit this and we're seeing it with Rodgers too. There has to be a certain support system. If you think you're going to win a game and Rob Brady and going to drop back 43 times a game and make big time plays and throw lasers all over the field right now, then you're not watching football this year. I just don't think that's going to happen very often. They're leading their division though. They're five and six.


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[Assistant] That's what I mean. That's what I'm kind of sick of. I'm sick of hearing that. People were saying that before the Rams and Seahawks win, and I was like, I dunno, that's what they kind of are, I think.


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[Assistant] And then the Rams game, I was like, alright, well, I don't know. Did they outplay the Rams? I'm not really sure. I mean, they did a little, yea, they won, great, okay. Seahawks game, I went, okay, that looked kind of good. There were some things there to latch onto and go, there, you can build off that.


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[Assistant] But then to lay that performance there, you're right. And you know, there's no team on their schedule that we have to get over this like, Oh, it's Tampa and Brady. They're going to, they're going to like, there's no team on the schedule here where you can just guarantee they're going to win the football game.


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[Assistant] You know, the Saints can certainly beat them, the 49ers, the Bengals, the Cardinals the next few weeks. You know, the only team I look at to just go, oh, the Panthers, and the Panthers are no cupcake either. So, we'll see. I'm surprised we're at this point with Tampa. I did not expect to be talking about a loss on November 28th after they just played the Browns.


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[Assistant] Why? Why are you doing that? Like run the other way. That would not be something I would go, oh, let me go see the skunk and hang out with him. Like what is it? Like I don't even know how- I'll take your word for it.


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[Assistant] I think they can spray whenever. Like they got unlimited spray in there. I think it's a pretty good amount. It's certainly, I don't know if it's unlimited.


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[Assistant] Or maybe he's just used to a crowd and he knows not to spray too much.


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[Assistant] They definitely, you know, probably would have the, the value would make sense as far as being able to, uh, you know, have that fifth year option. Yeah, he's having a hell of a year.


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[Assistant] Figured out the system. I've seen the passing game kind of expand because I'm sure cars more comfortable. As I've tried to explain to people too, this team was built to play a totally different style. That's why I think we had to give Josh McDaniels a little leeway.


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[Assistant] And let's not forget, I mean, they were toe-to-toe with the Titans, and had the Chiefs on the ropes, and, you know, yeaah, they blew some games, certainly.


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[Assistant] But that's where I just go, you stay the course here with them. Cause we're starting to, you know, bear the fruits of the labor here, in my opinion. And McDaniels, again, we'll see how it goes, and I understand to question him as a head coach, I understand that. I get that. But one thing I'll never question, and none of us can question, is his ability to


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[Assistant] You know, orchestrate offensive football. That's, that's second to none. I mean, he's one of the most special game planners in the history of the sport. And that's not only just pass game and Brady throwing the ball.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's, it's run game and playing power football and doing that as well. And I think that's where they've gotten it down, Amin. You know, I think Carr is...


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[Assistant] Pretty comfortable and, you know, they can run just about any play in the playbook now and I think the offense has gotten used to how they want to run the football and the schemes they want to use.


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[Assistant] I think it's a little bit of everything right now, but they've hit their stride and they put you in vines and they can beat you either way. I think that's the biggest thing. They have, you know, great balance of, whoa, they can tear you up in the pass game if you play too much run defense and then you start going, let me stop


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[Assistant] Davante Adams is getting scary and they can really gash you in the run game as we saw there too.


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[Assistant] The Seahawks are good, but they're like one of these teams where you look at and go, I go, yeaah.


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[Assistant] They can win and certainly can make some plays, but nothing's a guarantee. I don't think they're that dominant for me to sit here and go, oh, win, oh, win here. I think, you know, with that defense, every game is going to be a little bit of a roller coaster with the Seattle Seahawks. They're six and five. Right. Right now.


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[Assistant] The running game is a little bit of a, people think it's a good running game and I've tried to explain to some people, it's not as good as people think. This is a guy that


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[Assistant] You know, and Kenneth Walker, who can rip off a 20 yard run and nobody blocks anybody and he still gets 20 yards. And I think people have been a little misled by that to think we're going to get back into like, Marshawn Lynch beast mode there.


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[Assistant] And they're not that good that they can just impose their physical will there. Uhm, but Gino in the pass game too. First off, Carr and Gino made a number of big time passes in the game. This is one of the most fun games to watch yesterday. And this game was going back and forth.


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[Assistant] And between the big runs and Carr and Gino making big passes, uh, it was a lot of fun to watch.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, you know, this is one of the reasons I've talked about, like, they're...


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[Assistant] When they play a team that can do a little bit of both.


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[Assistant] They're in trouble. Like, you know, teams like, okay, hey, the Rams, you don't have to worry about much. They'll be okay, certainly.


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[Assistant] Even against a team like the 49ers, they might be okay, cause there's not tremendous, oh they can beat you both ways. But, when they play a team...


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[Assistant] You know, and I didn't think Tampa, you know, Tampa, what I'm trying to say here as I'm blabbering is, if you can run the ball a little on Seattle, it changes them because...


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[Assistant] And then now they don't have great run stoppers or great front seven and they really gotta put people to line of scrimmage and they're not that great in the back end to where you can just go, oh, we can stop the pass off of that. I guess that's what I'm trying to say after blabbering and stuttering all over myself. We got it. Got it. And now?


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[Assistant] It really didn't. It really didn't. It was, it's, it's, uh, the Dolphins I think have to start being recognized as one of the best teams in football. I do.


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[Assistant] Their offense, the way it is, it's kind of an unstoppable force. The amount of pressure they put on you, it almost changes the way you have to play entirely throughout your whole team. And then the defense, you know, again,


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[Assistant] It's, the yards aren't great, but the defense puts tremendous pressure on you too. That's where they're, they really match that way. It's an aggressive, go for it style of play.


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[Assistant] Throughout the football team with the Miami Dolphins, which is also why it lends them to, whoa, they're up 30 to nothing. Whoa, they're up three touchdowns because


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[Assistant] You know, their defense, they don't play bend or don't break. They're like, you know, either you break or we break. That's kind of what they do. And the defense, the offense, it just comes at you in so many different ways. And I mean, I was laughing at one point during the game. If you were in, I was literally going like, look at this.


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[Assistant] It's this guy down the middle, nobody in the screen. This guy over here, nobody in the screen. He's running free. He's going here. I mean, they're a lot of fun to watch. Tua was great again. Uhm, and you know, I just can't say enough about Mike McDaniel and just the things he does on that side of the ball to, to, to really be creative and stress defenses out.


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[Assistant] Is that MGM? Yea, he is the favorite, you're right. I think, I, I don't disagree with what you're saying here. I like Mike McDaniel for that. Yea, yea, I dunno. It's...


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[Assistant] A lot of questions, can this guy, this type of personality do this?


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[Assistant] You know, oh, he's creative and we think he's creative and then he's delivered on all of that. And then the elephant in the room was Tua. And like, wait, can we make this work? Can we justify, you know, the top 10 pick and start making him look like that?


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[Assistant] And yes, he's done that, you know, with flying colors and given them an attitude about their football team. So yeaah, it's a team that I think we all thought could be good, but I don't think we thought it was going to be this good.


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[Assistant] I think that's, that's the point. And it wasn't an easy situation to take over. You know, all the Brian Flores stuff, and yeaah, the Tua conversation. Uhm, but, but uhm, yeaah, I, I, I tend to...


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[Assistant] I think that's a really close race right there. I do. Sirianni, I don't want to discredit him either. It's not necessarily easy when everybody expects you to be 10-1. You guys should be 10-1 and you deliver. There's something to be said about that too, but McDaniel is right up there with him, Ahmed. You're right.


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[Assistant] Against a Rams team that, I mean, who's even playing for them? Well, I know. It's uhm...


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[Assistant] For lack of a better way to say it, focus for four quarters. And they get the lead and they kind of just like, okay, we're cool with the Chiefs. It's, it's in the books. And if we got to put the gas pedal back down again, we'll do it. No problem. Um, but yeah, I mean, there was no.


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[Assistant] I didn't think the Rams ever had a chance in this football game at any point. It really didn't. It was just mistakes by the Chiefs that kind of let the Rams kind of hang around just for a little bit there in the second half.


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[Assistant] Definitely, and you know, even some of the other guys they got as rookie secondary players, they do a great job of contributing as well. It's, it's, yea, young guys that are learning how to win, they can depend on them, that's for sure. I, I will say, again, it's,


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[Assistant] I mean, there's a toughness of the Chiefs that I don't think I've seen them have through the Andy Reid era. And that's because of Pacheco. And again, to run the ball 22 times yesterday.


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[Assistant] I mean, that was patience. I was shocked to see that. And this is still, you know, I don't want to take this for granted. This is a Rams defense that's still really freaking good. I mean, it's still one of the best defenses in football. And it's not easy to score touchdowns against that crew down there. You know, they're a team that, you know,


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[Assistant] They can do a lot of different things. They're creative that way. But yeaah, that was a good win for the Chiefs. Certainly one that we expect them to win. They put them away. Didn't play their best football. But that's kind of the way the Chiefs are.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just, it's amazing. The Chiefs are clearly one of the best teams in football and it's still shocking to see the Rams kind of struggling the way they are.


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[Assistant] Didn't even turn around. Hey coach. Sorry. I knocked your head off. Holy cow. That was big time shot. I know. I wonder if he's like black and blue or I wouldn't be shot. That was like concussion protocol.


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[Assistant] Yeah, move that Russell Wilson's done before. I'm not really like up on this. The young kids are teaching me this. I didn't realize Russell Wilson had done this before. Morgan was the one that pointed it out to me yesterday.


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[Assistant] And I guess after he got the sack the one time, he kind of went to midfield and imitated this move that Russell does. So he was mocking Russell.


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[Assistant] Well, it's like, well, it's good fun. It's usually like, okay, yea, you do it to waddle, waddle, score, and touchdowns, and things are good. Like, the Broncos and Russell Wilson are like going through like the toughest part of their lives right now. Russell Wilson's struggling. I thought, oh, there it is, he did this right here.


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[Assistant] Dangerous, but darn old, like trying to find a way there. I don't know how I would have done that.


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[Assistant] That was super aggressive, and I don't know, like, is this like...


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[Assistant] Is this, I don't know the full context here, I guess. Like, what's Purcell? Did they just come off the field? And what situation here? I guess that's where I don't really understand that. And...


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[Assistant] You guys suck out there, do something! I don't think he's doing that. I mean, that's stuff that...


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[Assistant] It doesn't go on in a locker room more times than that, especially when you're Mike Purcell and you're talking to a guy who's, you know, been around the league and been pretty awesome. I'd have a hard time thinking he was being disrespectful there, but it's not a good look and especially when you're playing like Russ and Nathaniel Hackett and the way the Broncos look all together, I get everybody reading into it.


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[Assistant] That would be interesting though. If you're writing the script, that's what you'd do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's bad times. It's bad times. It is bad times. It is. And, and, you know, I, I do want to give credit here to the Carolina Panthers a little here. Yeah, it's, it is bad times. And, you know, Russell, not good, we know that. I mean, how many freaking three-and-outs and ugly drives did they have? Then,


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[Assistant] The Broncos defense bleeding a little bit. I thought they would be dominant enough here to keep them in it. But man, I mean, we're seeing Carolina and Deontay Foreman, like run the ball.


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[Assistant] He's been in the league five years. Says a lot.


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[Assistant] Sam Darnold's story is not over. Sam Darnold still has starting quarterback, like, skills and potential. So, and the situation, as we know, it's, it means a lot.


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[Assistant] Again, this is where the great quarterbacks, the situation doesn't matter as much. Justin Herbert, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, they're gonna make just about every offense look good.


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[Assistant] But the rest of the world, they need a little help. Just like we talked about with Tua. Do you, do you not think Sam Darnold could be down in Miami, hitting wide open Waddle and Tariq Hill? I'm not trying to say it might be better than Tua or anything like that.


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[Assistant] He's never been a part of anything like that. So, that's where we'll see where it goes. And good to see him back out there. I would say for sure he earned himself the ability to start the next few games for the Panthers, at least the next one or two. And we'll see where it goes. But damn, yeaah. It's ugly.


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[Assistant] It's ugly for the Denver Broncos. And uhm, it's really ugly for Russell Wilson. Never seen a quarterback of his caliber struggle to this extent for this long of a period of time.


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[Assistant] Nope, nope. That was a logical, that was Tuesday night, Chris, that picked the game. So we were clear headed and thinking the right way.


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[Assistant] Defensive showdown as we know for sure. We do. And the Colts defense, I have a hard time thinking that the Steelers are going to be able to move the ball consistently on them. I do. I think a lot of this Colts defense. Across the board.


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[Assistant] And can they run the ball a little bit? And I don't think they're going to be able to run the ball. I think they probably will be efficient passing in the short game.


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[Assistant] Hard to get big plays against this Colts defense. They're pretty good at that as well.


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[Assistant] So, I just think it'll be that type of game. Ugly. I don't expect anything magical on the other side. I think there's gonna be some issues there. As far as the Steelers, even though it's not a great defense, they're playing a team where, okay, we don't have to like,


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[Assistant] The passing offense isn't scary. We can kind of go a little bit all in on stopping the run game and all of that. You know, this is usually the kind of game where, yeaah, they're gonna, it'll be Matt Ryan getting the ball out of his hand, dinking and dunking, and, and we'll see. Jonathan Taylor, I think he is a go tonight, right? Of the last I heard, I thought we were good to go.


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[Assistant] To where I just think he'll have a solid night, not a big night, Matt Ryan will be efficient, and they kind of win an ugly defensive struggle type of football game.


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[Assistant] Chargers? In front of them? New England in front of them? Have some tough games down the stretch? No one outside of Jeff.


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[Assistant] So say you bet $100 on a parlay of the Colts to win and Jonathan Taylor to rush for 100 yards and score a TD. What a parlay there. If you win, you'll get $310. But if you lose, you'll still get $100.


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[Assistant] We're done. Sorry. We ended up going a little longer than I thought. I mean, I mumbled probably a little too much early on in the podcast, but we got it done. And then we went on the Thanksgiving tirade, but hope everybody enjoyed it.


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[Assistant] He's got his pick out and his hard hat and he's doing it all. Keep the questions coming in. Anything specific about something that happened here in week 12 that you want me to look into a little bit?


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[Assistant] Well, we'll check it out. We'll answer those questions directly. Uh, but we'll do our best to pick the best games, the most interesting narratives and kind of break them down. We'll have them for Wednesday and Ahmed.


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[Assistant] Thanks for watching, homies. Hit subscribe to see all my Unbuttoned videos. You get to see me, Ahmed Fareed, all the big player breakdowns, game breakdowns, player interviews, and my film analysis. So please subscribe. Chris Sims, Unbuttoned. Peace out.


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[Assistant] Ah, yeaah baby, what's up? It's Chris Sims on button, Ahmed Breeds here. It's a Monday morning and it was another crazy day in the NFL. I feel like we could almost just play a recording of that every Monday, so I'm gonna stop saying that, okay?


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[Assistant] You think it was the ultimate crazy this week? It kinda seems like it. It does seem like it. I guess there was a, there was the Saturday games that added an extra craziness to the, to the week.


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[Assistant] I love this. I love this time of the year. I'm like, are you a, are you a fire guy at home? Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So you sit around like Saturday. So that was like my dream day there. Saturday, three football games. You're not working. I'm not working. Right.


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[Assistant] So this is in between haircuts, right? Longer on the top still. Longer on the top still, not shaved to the side like I used to. Yea. Right, it's still got a part. You do. Alright, so it's still Johnny traditional, but it's just a little less hair to manage, which is, it really is better.


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[Assistant] I enjoy it, but thanks for noticing there, friend. You're welcome. Thanks a lot.


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[Assistant] Crazy weekend. Might have been the best sports weekend of this year. It was pretty strong. I'm not going to disagree with you. That was a, that was a hard hitting two days for sure. And even the Thursday night game was enjoyable too, but yeah, between some of the storylines on Saturday.


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[Assistant] Messy and Mbappe gone after it on Sunday. I know. I literally left the house, okay? And it was 2-0 Argentina and they were dominating the game. Like I was like, I was like, I don't think Mbappe's touched the ball more than like one time in the first half. And now his second half has started and still was looking that way. I walk in the control room.


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[Assistant] It's 2-2. And Morgan, who's sitting here next to us, she'll tell you, I came in and I was like, what the f- what? I was like, how did this-


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, and that's the other thing you see too, when he first breaks the line of scrimmage, if you watch the play back, Mack Jones is telling them to go down.


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[Assistant] Mac Jones is literally going like this. One of the best parts of the whole play, listen, the play is amazing, we know that. But what I got a kick out of as the day went on was watching the reaction of the coaches on the sidelines.


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[Assistant] Watching Matt Patricia and Joe Judge as they see him about to, but they laddered it and they're telling them to go down and then their, their hands are out and like they're yelling like they must be, go down! Nooo!


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[Assistant] As I was, you know, you're watching other games. He breaks through the line of scrimmage.


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[Assistant] And you're like, oh, okay, whatever, but you see the clocks down to two and one and you're like, it's over. And then you're going.


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[Assistant] Whoa, I just remember going, whoa, why is he throwing it back like that? It's a tie game. Like it's risky. And then it was like, you saw it came into picture. You were like,


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[Assistant] Oh my gosh, like Chandler Jones is sitting right there. And it just, it was like, it ended up happening in slow motion. And I think everybody like Pete would tell you and everything. I mean, I was, I, we were getting ready to rehearse a segment, right, for the Football Night in America.


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[Assistant] And I literally ran off the rehearsal. It was like, holy shit! What the hell are they doing? I mean, it was just an unbelievable moment.


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[Assistant] That's, that's hilarious. Yes. That is hilarious. Watching the Dots right now. If you're watching on NBC's, uh, our YouTube page, it's pretty amazing. Let me see that again. I want to watch it. I mean, look at, look at 55. Chairman Jones misses the tackle. Almost makes the tackle. Yep. Ramondre. Driven into the ground, and then he's just standing. He's just standing there. He's like, alright, it's over.


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[Assistant] And then for some reason, Ramondre pitches it back, and then Jacoby Myers makes really one of the poorest decisions we saw in football this year, and that could have knocked the Patriots out of the playoff.


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[Assistant] That moment, trying to make it happen, right? Just, it's, it's an athlete where it's like the gift and the curse. You just don't stop competing. You think, oh gosh, maybe we can make a play and end this right here.


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[Assistant] You know, but it was just, it was just one of those where he obviously, you know, lost his common sense to a degree. And you just, you gotta realize at some point, like, wait, this is, it's a tie game. We can't be risky here. I can't take that chance. Uh, and it's unfortunate. It is. I mean, Jacoby Myers is...


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[Assistant] He seems to be a total patriot guy, and has done things the right way there. But this is the weird thing about the Patriots this year.


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[Assistant] It's just weird. It's, it's been a sloppy year. Almost from the start of the gathering of the offensive coaches and it's just filtered into the season where we've seen more penalties, we've seen more turnovers, you know, we've seen, you know, situational football. And again, like Bill Belichick and that crew up there, nobody practices it more.


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[Assistant] But sometimes you get a team that's young and just doesn't take the message the same way, right? Like a 2010 Patriots team that just barely got in the playoffs and then got blown out. You know, it just, those are years where it is just for whatever reason.


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[Assistant] You know, coaching, guys in the locker room, there's some injuries, whatever else where guys don't take to all of it, and yeaah, they've messed some stuff up. I mean, that game itself was just a weird Patriot game once again, right? They did a pretty good job of crawling back into that game, right?


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[Assistant] I haven't seen anything that doesn't say it doesn't, but I guess they feel like it wasn't, you know, clear and obvious enough, and I...


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[Assistant] And I don't know, you know, the thing that, like, here's a great picture, and we got this from L.E. Bascow, right? I would guess that we're gonna get some more pictures of this as the week goes on, because there's our cameramen in that corner, and I would think they're gonna develop some of these pictures and start to release them. Here's the one thing that jumps out to me that makes it hard.


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[Assistant] His black trim on his cleats, it does make it look like it's still the end zone there. His cleat to me does look like it's clearly on the white.


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[Assistant] But that black trim around the edge blends in very nicely with the Raiders end zone background, which is all black. I don't know, but I was surprised too in that moment, uh, that, that, that call was stand, stand, stood on


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[Assistant] Well, I think it, to me, would be more the OC, the game plan, and the defense of the Raiders. It just felt, this is why I picked the Raiders to win the game, and I'm not trying to sit here and tell you I'm some Nostradamus or anything, but one thing that jumped out to me was, wait, there's not a great disparity in talent, and then, what, the Patriots offense right now is like,


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[Assistant] Josh McDaniel's offense that he puts in on the first week of training camp. So he's like, wait, I know these plays, I know these rules. Patrick Graham, my defensive coordinator, you know this is what we used to do the first two weeks of training camp. We should have a plan to stop this. That's the problem with New England. You know, it's just not a creative offense right now.


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[Assistant] It's not. No, no, no. Mac Jones is, it's limited in what he can do. As we discussed a little last week, he's a guy that, yea, you don't draft him and go,


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[Assistant] Wait, he'll just make plays and then we'll figure it out around him. He's a guy that a Josh McDaniels or a Kyle Shanahan likes coming out in the draft cause they go, if I just tell him what to do and I have a zillion plays, he'll run them all the right way and he'll make all the throws. He's the guy that like we talk about sometimes with Brady, he could take more advantage of more of that.


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[Assistant] More of more. When you give him more options and more audibles and more things to read, he can really digest it and bring it all in and put it out on the football field.


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[Assistant] Right now, they're playing, he's probably feels like he's taking a step back as far as a quarterback and his knowledge of the game and things they're doing on the offensive side of the ball. So that's, that's where it's a, it's a big disappointment to our, uh, to our question there from Rashant Dodd.


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[Assistant] He was probably just telling him, hang in there, you're doing great. Your coaches suck. Something of that. He won't go there, but Josh is a classy guy, but I'm sure he's just telling him to hang in there. He knows what he's capable of, Mac Jones. You know, as far as Josh knows what he's capable of.


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[Assistant] I think it's good. I do. You know, Bill is the kind of guy with those types of relationships, he gets it all out the mushy, gushy stuff before the game.


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[Assistant] And after the game, he just wants to, let's shake hands and move on and let's not make a spectacle. Uhm, but I, I think that relationship is fine. It's a good win for the Raiders. Good for them.


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[Assistant] You know, it came off a crushing loss last week, and then the Patriots again, too. They came off a win last week where we were underwhelmed. I mean, they didn't play great against Arizona, even though the spinal scorers showed they won it kind of convincingly. It wasn't.


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[Assistant] I mean they should have been down 16-7 late in the first half. The Patriots are, yeaah, they're just not a real good team and I kind of would be shocked to see if they got in the playoffs at this point. Yeaah, we'll take a closer look at the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Big time adversity. I mean, he fumbles late, where you go, oh man, I don't know if they'll get a chance to get the ball back. They get the ball back, and it didn't affect him. And he made the plays he had to. You know, the Cowboys


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[Assistant] Where do we want to start? Let's start, let's just stay on Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, let's stay with Trevor Lawrence first. Trevor's been phenomenal. I think we're all seeing, this is the guy we thought that he could be coming out.


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[Assistant] He's, he's found control when he throws his fastball. That was my other issue. When he would really step on the gas, it was like, ooh, I don't know if he can really control the football when he really wants to, huh, and put it into a tight window.


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[Assistant] I mean, now it's like every time it's on the money. Uh, so that's what was impressive. I mean, that's what I'm seeing right now. And then, yeah, the plays outside the pocket, the throw at the end of the game to set up the field goal, running to his left, throwing back to his right, throws it with such pace.


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[Assistant] Donovan Wilson's there in front of the receiver, but the ball is thrown so hard that he can't even react fast enough and the ball goes through his hands and he doesn't even touch it because it's going so fast. So I think that speaks to the guy's talent and I think we're seeing a little bit of the


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[Assistant] You know, something that I've been trying to say all year, and they're finally kind of proving me right a little bit. It's a talented football team. They are still young, as we've talked about.


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[Assistant] They're not outclassed by teams like the Cowboys or the Eagles like we saw. They weren't outclassed. Just the Lions. Just my Detroit Lions. It's funny. Well, you know, started that game off with a turnover, right? ETN started the game off with this game with a turnover.


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[Assistant] So, they make their mistakes every game, but I give them credit for hanging in there, and then making plays, and then staring down the barrel of being down 27 to 10. Right? And then...


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[Assistant] Big time touchdown pass, and then Dak Prescott comes back and throws a bad interception on the next drive.


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[Assistant] Give us on the short field. So they score again. So they were down 27 to 10 and they got two touchdowns and made it 27, 24 within about a three to four minute span on the game clock. And that to me was really the turning point. The quick touchdown up the sideline to Zay Jones, Dak throwing the interception down the middle.


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[Assistant] And then them scoring quickly and then you went, oh no, this is going to be a nail biter here coming down to the, down the stretch.


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[Assistant] We've talked about they're not real big, right? So they can get away. This will be my assessment. When you're...


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[Assistant] You know, a little more tilted one way, they're okay.


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[Assistant] Teams like Jacksonville have balance where they can literally go, wait, if you play too much pass coverage, we can run it up the middle and ATN can have a hundred yard day. And then there's also the kind of team where it's like, oh wait, you want to pressure us and get all Dallas on us and create chaos and play man to man.


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[Assistant] They have the weapons on the outside to go, bring it Dallas. Like we're not afraid, like get in our face. This guy, he'll throw the ball down the field into tight coverage. So I think that's where like a team like this is a tough matchup because they can do both pretty well.


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[Assistant] You know, they can get away with it, teams against the Giants. Cause they can go in more on, we can put one more egg in the run game stopping basket, right? Cause we know they're not gonna gash us in the pass game.


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[Assistant] Right? This is my worry about the Cowboys. And we'll see. Now there's not a lot of teams that have great balance. The Eagles of course have the best of it. And that's why, I don't know, they can really beat the Eagles when it comes time to do that. The 49ers on the other hand, they're starting to show balance.


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[Assistant] You know, but they would be one of those teams where I'd go, I can see the Cowboys making things a little interesting against the 49ers because they're not going to be so concerned with the pass game. They'll be able to go all in on the run game. And the pass game is not necessarily what kills you with the 49ers, but it's looking better with Purdy and everything. So I guess that's my assessment. Long story short there. Offense did look better. You're right about that.


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[Assistant] You know, they ran the ball well. Man, the connection between Dak and CD was pretty special all day.


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[Assistant] But Dax, you know, he got unlucky with the game winning intersep- interception for a touchdown. Noah Brown.


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[Assistant] It's a tough catch, but you'd like to see him bring that in for a short game, instead he knocked it in the air.


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[Assistant] The interception in the third quarter, that was a bad one. That was one where you go, wait, wait, we're controlling the game here, you don't take any chances, we're up ten, they just got a little momentum going, I'm not gonna take any, we're just slowly gonna squash this little momentum of fire they got here. And I thought him, that aggressive throw down the middle to Schultz was clearly his worst mistake of the day.


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[Assistant] I don't know, yeaah, you know, it's, it's gonna be dicey. It is. They still gotta play the Cowboys and of course they're gonna play the Jaguars, so. Week 18. Yeah. I mean, the Cowboys of course are...


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[Assistant] You know, they might, the Cowboys might be able to get to the last two games of the season and not really be playing for anything. So it could fall into favor for some of these teams where they just go, wait, we're locked in at the number five seed and that's that. And you know, we'll see you later.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that'll be something to watch for, you know, and Jacksonville, I know they got the Titans to end the year, but the other two games, oh, they got the Jets this weekend, so that's gonna dicey. At Jets, at Houston. Right, so they both got Houston on the schedule, and then they both got two pretty tough games, uh, the other ones, and of course one of them was facing each other, but, uh, Tennessee,


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[Assistant] It's, it's, first off, the four teams they've played are pretty good.


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[Assistant] It's not like they lost to like teams where we sit there and go, oh man, these are cupcakes here. I mean, Philadelphia and Cincinnati are...


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[Assistant] Look at as two of the top five teams in football. Yeah. Right. Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] Uh, hey, last week we discussed that game a lot. They were controlling the game. They made some mistakes and then allowed Jacksonville to kinda get momentum and going and then they got into a game where they were like, wait, this is the game we want, we gotta run it and control the clock and then they got down and they were like, wait, we don't wanna be in this game, now we gotta throw the ball every play to come back cause we messed up.


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[Assistant] Yesterday, a little unfortunate. I think the game played out just the way they wanted it, really. Ryan Tannehill got bad foot, ankle injury. Right? Sucked it up, hung in there.


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[Assistant] Uh, I felt like the Chargers outplayed them for the majority of the day.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and felt like they were in control of the football game, but Tennessee did a good job hanging in there. They matched up well with the Chargers in a lot of ways. You know, they didn't have to worry about the run game. They can make life hard on a simple, what I think is a pretty schematically simple pass game.


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[Assistant] And they ran the ball okay, but there's just not enough offense to your point, Ahmed. That's the biggest problem. And when they play a quarterback like Herbert,


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[Assistant] You know, he just, end of the game, end of the half, I mean, those are the parts of the game where you wish you have a franchise quarterback, and the end of the game for this one is where he just made some special plays and throws to put them up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess he just thought, hey, we were gonna hang in there and play the game we've been playing to this point. And it's been, our defense has hung in there and made some opportunistic plays. I mean, the interception at half, did you see that one?


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[Assistant] With the rookie McCrary where he threw the ball out of bounds. McCrary jumped up out of bounds and then threw it back.


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[Assistant] To his, to Kalu for the interception, that was one of the most, that was the best interception of the season. Yeaah. That was a special, special play. I mean, cause Herbert really, he's going, wait I threw that ball in a safe place, where like,


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[Assistant] It's out of bounds, like maybe my guy makes it a miraculous catch or nobody does.


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[Assistant] And for a rookie player, Roger McCreary, to make that play there, that was phenomenal, because there's another moment where, you know, just like you were discussing, they're not, they're offensively challenged, and...


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[Assistant] There was a point where, oh yeaah, the Chargers could have gone into the half up by three, and every point mattered in this type of game. That was a phenomenal football play, but hey, the concerns that we're talking about here with the Titans are real. And then with Tannehill not being 100%, and then like yesterday, I give him a lot of credit for hanging in there, he was, he couldn't,


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[Assistant] He was just almost standing there flat-footed trying not to put pressure on that bad foot throw in the football. Uhm, yeaah, Tennessee, it's just, uhm,


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[Assistant] They're 1-6 this season versus teams with winning records. I was gonna say, they're a pain in the butt football team. I just don't know if they can beat any of the quality teams in football because of that.


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[Assistant] Lack of offensive firepower. Not that they need a ton more. You know, we know that. They're comfortable in 20 to 17 type of games. But yea, it's a little less than my liking, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] How did you pick against the Giants? Well, I wanna be right. I was rooting for the Giants. You know, don't think like, I mean, I got, you know, Morgan sitting here, I was rooting for the Giants. Trust me, I was. I do wanna be right and win the picks part there.


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[Assistant] I thought the game would be close. I thought really, you know, it would kind of go the way it did and then Heineken and them would just make a few plays at the end of the game to kind of win it. That's kind of how I saw it happening.


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[Assistant] I mean that was phenomenal play by the Giants last night. Phenomenal? Well, it was good, it was good, it's, it's...


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[Assistant] Perfect for them. Yes. Okay. That's how they started off the season, what, five and one or five and two and all that.


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[Assistant] Run the ball, control the clock, defense get one or two turnovers, we take care of the ball, we kick some field goals, right? I mean, that's kind of been their formula all year long. They've kind of lost that the last few weeks and the good thing was to see us get back to that style of football.


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[Assistant] If we get a little fortunate, a little, sure, we could talk about that, but, you know, I think between Danny Dimes being efficient again in the pass game, making a few plays with his legs, Saquon on the last drive, you know, and a few good runs, certainly, and then,


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[Assistant] I mean, the man of the hour last night, that was Kavon Thibodeau.


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[Assistant] Kayvon Thibodeau, the strip sack fumble, all the plays he made for tackle for a loss. This is the best game of his career to this point. So that was awesome to see. And then Sexy Dexy making the big play to strip, you know, Heinecke at the end. You know, again, it's...


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[Assistant] It wasn't dominant. You know, it's not. This is how the Giants have to play. It's a little ugly. It's a little bit, oh I hope this happens. But hopefully this is like regaining their form and they can find this.


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[Assistant] I, I, you know, the thing I appreciate about Kevin Thibodeau is of course he's got a great personality. He's obviously very aware. He's made that very aware. He pays attention to social media and everything like that. So, when I knew he was the guest on after the game, I was like, oh man.


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[Assistant] He might be bold enough to actually say something to me, this guy here. And, uh, yeaah, he told them. He told them, but, yeaah, this is, this is awesome. And again, this is, I'm, I'm rooting for him. I'm a Giants fan.


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[Assistant] Was I concerned with the pick? 100%. Did you hear what Rodney said in the pregame too though? He watches on film, he doesn't see him a lot in the pass rush department. So hey, we just gotta see this. I know that we haven't, it's been too few and far between, that's all I'm saying. He's been a good football player. He's gonna be the giant starting outside linebacker for a long time.


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[Assistant] But my only point was we didn't draft him number five to be good outside linebacker for a long time. We drafted him to be...


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[Assistant] Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, somebody that can, you know, get double-digit sacks a year. So, we'll see if he can do that. Did he look like that guy in this game to you? He certainly looked more explosive off the line of scrimmage. I mean, he did. He's been like that in the run game, the things you saw, the highlights and all of that. He's been like that all year. And you can't question his motor.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's one thing me and Pete, we talk about almost every week when we talk about the Giants, is how hard he plays. I mean, he does. That's for sure.


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[Assistant] It's just, the pass rush moments are the ones that we're looking for to happen more, and that was a big night. And good for him, call me out. I told him, prove me wrong, I'm rooting for you. You know, I don't know if you saw it live when it happened, but, uh, it was, it was cool. And, uh, I am happy for him, happy for the Giants, and now they're kind of sitting in the driver's seat here.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah. Right, right. Yeaah, he's, he's, uhm, he's made for New York to play outside Labbaker's personality.


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[Assistant] Now we just get some sacks like that, and hey, I hope I am wrong. I really am. Uh, I'm certainly rooting for him. It's not personal, as I say all the time. In fact, after he said that, and I came off air for a second, I just, to the crew, and they were all looking at me, I just, this is the worst part about my job. It's the worst part. I hate that I...


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[Assistant] Have to rank guys and do that because players are competitive. They take it personal and it's not personal. But I know I was there at one point in my life too and I took it personal.


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[Assistant] Uh, so it's just, uh, that's definitely one of the negatives.


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[Assistant] Point. Yeah, point, line up, or he confirms it, like, you know, you're good, yes, or, or yeah. But, but this one was a little different, and I didn't see all those mechanics to say that you were good. So here's what Terry said.


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[Assistant] Alright, so listen, I don't want to call Terry McLuhan a liar or anything like that. I certainly don't. I mean, I know he's a stand-up dude.


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[Assistant] And he clearly thinks that the ref didn't say that. I know. So there's obviously something, I've never seen, refs don't, they're not out to screw players over and things like that. You know, they're always, there's a lot of dialogue between the line judge and the receiver all game long.


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[Assistant] You're constantly, you know, hey, this guy pulling me here, look for this, he passing, there's constantly conversations going on. You know, or if you were lining off the line of scrimmage a little bit, they usually give you a few warnings to go, hey, you know, those last few plays, I let you go. So they're not trying to screw.


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[Assistant] Right, and, and, you know, I see them going back and forth. The, the, the curi- Alright, so here's the, the, the baseline to me, first off, is he's, he was egregiously off the line of scrimmage, in my opinion. Do we have a clip of it? Do we have a picture of it? Or anything? I wasn't- Yeah, we'll get one. Alright, cool. Cause I, I, I mean, to me,


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[Assistant] You know, again, it's a formation where it's two full backs back in the field, back in the backfield and then the running backs behind the quarterback. So he's got to be up on the line of scrimmage, even with the tackle. He lined up as if he was like a Z receiver, like the tight end was to his side and he had to be off the ball.


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[Assistant] So, he then realizes that there's nobody there, and I see him look over and try to say, but he moves up like,


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[Assistant] I don't know, I wanna see it one more time. Here we go. So, the line of scrimmage is inside the one yard line. It's the half yard line.


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[Assistant] He's lined up, where? What do you think? The three? The three? Pretty much, right? So, it's, maybe the two?


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[Assistant] Right? So it's not even close. That's where I, you know, and again, I respect Terry McClurey, our rules expert and all that, but if we're gonna start letting people line up like this, then we'd just forget seven men on the line of scrimmage or formations. I guess it doesn't matter. So what would be the advantage of having a receiver?


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[Assistant] Well, the advantage of just this, and this is why this is also, it makes no sense in this play, it's a run play. So who cares? Right? Just get up there on the line of scrimmage all the way up there, you know, to not even make it close. The other thing I want you to look at is the referee is still pointing on the line to me to basically, I think he's trying to say like,


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[Assistant] That's the line up there and you're not on it. Look, he's still, he's looking at him now. Oh, he goes, oh, okay. He's still pointing. He only moved his foot up like three inches. He never really moved up. So then the referees


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[Assistant] His right hand was still on the line, like no, this is the line, you're not there. And now he's reaching for the flag because he's going, the guy didn't move up. You know, he moved up three inches, but that's nowhere near the line of scrimmage. He's still clearly a yard off the ball, if not more than that.


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[Assistant] The advantage to your question would be and those types of formations right now where


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[Assistant] You're supposed to be on the line of scrimmage. Well, every receiver would move back a little bit because they'd go, well, now they, they can't jam me. They can't bump me, right? So now we can line up in these formations and then I don't have to worry about the bump or the jam either.


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[Assistant] And, you know, being true to the game, I have no problem with that call. Now the next call, I can get into that.


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[Assistant] So that to me is a correctable, that's on you, Washington, Ron Rivera, Taylor Heinecke, Terry McCorn, that's on you guys. You played too much football, you messed that up. That stinks, I know that, and like you said, it was away from the play and really didn't affect it, but the rules are the rules, and you don't know that when he's throwing the flag.


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[Assistant] When he's throwing the flag and the ball snapped, he's thinking, well, it could be a pass. And now this guy's gaining an advantage because the guy up here wants to jam him, and now he can't. So, uh, like I said, I got no issue with that, but the next one is a little bit annoying.


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[Assistant] Now we're seeing regular season all year long.


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[Assistant] When we get late in the game, last 2-3 or 2 or 3 drives of a game, the referees don't call penalties anymore. And, like,


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[Assistant] And there would have been seven flags from guys that aren't even watching the play in the first quarter.


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[Assistant] And you just would have been like, and then you have here where, I mean, I don't know, if that's not past interference, then we don't need to even have the rule anymore. That's where I would say it. So this is where Washington fans have a legit case to go, like, what the hell? And yeaah. Cost themselves.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was a huge moment, right? That was a big moment. Dexter Lawrence, I mean, one and ten on third downs, you just said that, right? Yep. Yeah, I mean, it's just...


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[Assistant] It's, you know, that's the, the, the gift and the curse of Taylor Heinecke. He, he, he makes some plays and some big moments, but he leaves a lot of plays and yards on the field every game I watch.


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[Assistant] You know, but, but, you know, he makes it happen when it counts, so we kinda all forget. But, you know, that's not gonna consistently get it done in the NFL.


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[Assistant] And that's where, like a guy like Terrell Heinecke got great respect for him, but that's why they'll be back in the quarterback market when the year's over too, cause they're gonna go back and they're gonna watch their film and self-scout and go, man, Heinecke's a scrapper, he's good, but damn.


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[Assistant] He left a lot of plays and touchdowns on the board, you know, throughout the year. Do we really think he's the future? And then that'll make them reassess. But, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a game where


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[Assistant] You know, Giants game plan, played it exactly the right way, capitalized in the big moments, I think that's all it came down to, and then Washington got a little unlucky at the end of the game with the refs and how that all unfolded.


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[Assistant] They have no fear of any moment. I mean, I, I, you know, I just think the last fourth down conversion, fourth and inches, games on the line.


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[Assistant] You know, they just, they go for it. They don't go, oh, let's just jam it up the middle and try to get three inches on fourth an inch.


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[Assistant] Right? They go, wait, that's going to be tough. This defense, the way they shoot gaps, how fast and aggressive they are. So what do they do? They call a play to use the fast aggressiveness of the jets against them. Cause they're thinking, wait, we got to stop them and not let them get the first down. So we got to fly to the ball. And they play action fake and you think, Ooh, everything's flowing to the right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then, you know, again, this is one I gotta watch on film here, and let me see when we get back to the top, Pete, if you can just, like, pause it for a second. Right? So they're trying to bring, like, a run blitz. They're playing man to man.


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[Assistant] And, yes, I think that is totally his guy. Either way, if it's not his guy, when he crosses out that way, this is a play that these weak side linebackers have been, you know, very aware of. Uhm, but 3 and 56, right, uh, Williams and 3 I believe is, uhm,


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[Assistant] This is Whitehead, uh, I believe. They're blitzing off the edge. They're gonna try to stop the run game up the middle. So yes, now 57 Mosley, who's on the weak side of the formation, he's kinda back there trying to disguise the fact that he's playing man to man on Brock right. And with all the action and everybody flowing to the right,


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[Assistant] And the Jets being a fast flow, very aggressive, fast defense, he's going, wait, I gotta get over there in case they run the ball to the right and maybe it bounces outside.


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[Assistant] But the, you know, Detroit is one of those teams that again is, they're tough on great defenses because you have great balance. So you can never go all in on one area. Oh, we're going to stop the pass. You'll get gashed in the run.


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[Assistant] Oh, we're gonna stop the run. Well, Jared Goff and company are gonna be aggressive in the pass. Uhm, so it was, it was a, it was a fun game to watch. And then we had some good plays by Zach Wilson on that side of the ball and


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[Assistant] You know, unfortunately, the, the, the biggest thing of the game is gonna be some of the clock mismanagement at the end by Robert Sala, and that certainly, you know, deserves to be questioned to a degree.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, wait. The one guy you're talking about here can beat all of those things. I mean, one guy's been in the NFL for five years. The other guy's just getting his feet wet in the league and, you know, being thrust into a very tough situation where...


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[Assistant] And you don't want to let them at it, you don't want to let them grow. You just want them to be a second pick of the draft and he wants Super Bowl quarterback the next year. And that's.


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[Assistant] Hey, I agree with everything you said. The frustrating thing with Zach Wilson is he makes the hardest throws and he completes them and misses the easiest damn throws. That's the frustrating part. But that's extremely fixable. That's fixable.


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[Assistant] You can't get Mike White to become, uh, put a rocket launcher on his right arm and make some of those throws. That's not gonna happen. So, you know, that's where I was always saying for Zach Wilson for them just to hang in there.


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[Assistant] He missed some plays, the interception he made was stupid. There's no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but he made some, like, eye-popping plays as well. And, you know, the play he made at the end of the football game, you know, that's one where, hey, throw it, what a great job, go down right away. Elijah Moore lost seven yards going backwards. He wasted some time to where they could have had an easier field goal, but definitely worth


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[Assistant] You know, one of the things I think I'll do maybe on Wednesday is just dissect the clock management a little bit. There's three timeouts. They got the ball with what, a minute 25 left? And then there we were.


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[Assistant] Wasting, you know, over a minute at a time, really not going that far and letting the clock tick down on some situations where you're going, what are we saving the timeouts for? So, you know, Robert Sala's gonna have to go back to the drawing board there and reassess how he handles those situations as well.


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[Assistant] Seattle. Two. Yeah. Well, I think that could happen. Well, Seattle plays Kansas City this week, so that's gonna be trouble.


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[Assistant] Commanders play San Francisco. And you guys, to me, and I've been saying for the last few weeks, I think you're gonna get in. You have the easiest road. Yea. I know nothing's gonna be like, dominant. You guys are nothing as easy as a lifelong Lion fan, I know.


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[Assistant] But they're dangerous. And then you're gonna have to play Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay at the end of the year where...


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[Assistant] I mean, really they turn the ball over five straight positions. When you take into account they fake the punt, right? Oh, that's right. You know, Giovanni Bernard wasn't aware they made the call to fake it. So that was a turnover on downs. But yeah, I mean, Ahmad, you said it right. I mean, 17-0, control in the football game.


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[Assistant] Cincinnati had to like, eke and claw it out to just get a field goal before the half.


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[Assistant] And you're just going to, it just doesn't look like it's going to be their day. It didn't look like they had an offensive game plan that was going to be able to really kind of get things open for Joe Burrow. You know, they didn't protect great.


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[Assistant] And it just seemed like Brady and company had the, all the right plays to pick apart the great zones that the Cincinnati plays and he was just going to be patient and four yards, five yards, eight yards and just pick it apart.


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[Assistant] Then it was interception and you get fooled by like a cover two corner when he's throwing the tight end of the right.


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[Assistant] Then he's, the next drive he's trying to step up in the pocket, somebody knocks the ball out of his hand, I think that was Logan Wilson, right? Maybe it was, I don't know, I can't remember. Uh, there's so much shit happened there, I can't remember everything there. And then, fumbled handoff? And then the fumbled handoff. And then the next drive he's in the pocket, got people around him, kinda gets hit as he throws, ball pops in the interception. Uh, it just, things that,


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[Assistant] You know, crazy enough, like we were talking about in New England earlier, things we haven't seen Tom Brady, things we haven't seen the Tampa Bay Buccaneers do the last few years, and I mean, just come on, like you said, you give Joe Burrow that many short fields, I mean, you know what's gonna happen with that group.


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[Assistant] He's, he's looking to throw touchdowns, and with Key Higgins and Jamar Chase, I mean, you knew it was only a matter of time if they kept giving them those type of looks there, so, uh, just, kind of a shocking win. It really did not feel like they were the better team on the field.


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[Assistant] You know, for the better part of the day, but that's a complete football team. And that's the thing that is a little scary about the Bengals. They're not like...


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[Assistant] As reliant on their quarterback to take over the game maybe is like a Mahomes or Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] Their defense and that, they can hold the fort down in some of these ugly, if it's gotta be a 14 to 10 type of game, or 17-14 type of game, like it was the Titans a few weeks ago. Uh, they are well rounded that way. And this defense, Lou and Arumo, man, did they step up to the challenge in the second half and-


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[Assistant] What was Brady's quote he made about them during the week? Did you see that?


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[Assistant] No, I mean, you know, like we talk about every week, the bucks, maybe when they're healthy.


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[Assistant] Oh, and they'd have to play their best game of the year in the wild card round. Maybe they can get, you know, a victory.


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[Assistant] Their schedule is pretty favorable. Here's the NFC South. Yep. And I still think, even though with all those teams, they're better than all those teams. So Bucs are at Arizona, home against Carolina at Atlanta. Yeah, so it's gonna come down to that Carolina matchup. We'll see. It might not even. Every game on this


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, I mean all of these here. I'm really not gonna, I don't think the, I don't expect the Saints or the Falcons to get back into this conversation.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you just look at it right now and go, wait, uh, Colt McCoy and concussion protocol, yeah, I'm favoring Tampa on Christmas night to win that football game. And then Carolina's got to play your Detroit Lions to where you look at it and you go, uh, I think there's a good chance that Tampa could add to their lead in the division after this, after this weekend.


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[Assistant] He missed his two biggest passes of the day down the field. They had a chance like in the first half to have


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[Assistant] Like you can see them here actually, the two white dots you see down in the field.


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[Assistant] Like they, they, he should have hit those. He should have. He kind of like babied the ball out there. One was Marquez Valdez scaling. They might have both been Valdez scaling.


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[Assistant] But this, this, like what you're talking about Ahmed and this thing we're showing here, to me this is, this is new, this is Patrick Mahomes. I mean this is, this is just the, it shows you the adjustment he has made to his game.