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[Assistant] Yeah, I go, you know, absolute highest ceiling. And Bryce Young, if he was just like, I don't know, three inches taller, a little bit stockier, it would be not even a discussion that he's the number one pick and it would be a slam dunk. And I even think Chicago would have to really think about it now, you know, but I think that if you're Houston,


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[Assistant] But Bryce Young to me clearly seems like he has the higher ceiling if he hits all of these marks.


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[Assistant] But I think that they're in a little bit of a different spot in terms of where they're at.


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[Assistant] In their franchises, you know, history or mile marker, whatever you want to call it. I think that they have so many needs that you could afford to go defense with both of those picks, bring on a quarterback like I think Jimmy Garoppolo.


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[Assistant] Who has a relationship with obviously D'Amico Rhynes, the new offensive coordinator, the GM drafted him, Nick Casario in New England, and you can kind of


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[Assistant] Indianapolis, who we were all talking about when they added Matt Ryan last year. We're like, all right, well, maybe they could be a contender in the South. They have pieces. They have Jonathan Taylor. They have Michael Pittman. They have some pieces on defense where you can kind of maybe get this thing going quickly with a rookie quarterback.


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[Assistant] Well, cause we don't rebuild it overnight. I mean, like, you know, that's just, it's, it's fools thinking that you're like, okay, we can just go into an off season and fix this overnight. And it's tempting.


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[Assistant] To go with a quarterback, especially if you love Bryce Young. I mean, you know, heck, if you like him, draft him. Like don't, you know, don't just say, all right, we might have a top five pick next year, so let's wait and see what those quarterbacks are like. But I think that from


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[Assistant] The vibes that I get from everybody talking about the draft and kind of analyzing this group.


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[Assistant] It's not like it's a super slam dunk. Yes, Bryce Young is probably the best of the bunch, but it's not like this all-world quarterback class. It's better than last year's, but I don't think it's better than a couple years ago, obviously, when Joe Burrow and all those boys were coming out. So if you don't love anybody in this class, if you're Houston,


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[Assistant] You're not expected to be particularly good next year. So evaluate 2024 as much as you're evaluating 2023. And if you love these defensive guys, maybe go that route and go quarterback later on.


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[Assistant] Alright, sounds good. We'll go a little bit quicker here. Let's go with the Jacksonville Jaguars. We'll stay in the AFC South. And I think the secondary is still kind of an issue for them. You know, they have...


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[Assistant] I don't know if the offense needs too, too much. Yes, you want to re-sign Evan Ingram at the tight end spot. I thought he was awesome for them last year. To me, I would just continue to beef up on the secondary, especially when you're in a conference where you're going to talk about having to go through Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Herbert Allen.


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[Assistant] I mean, who knows, maybe even Aaron Rodgers if he gets traded into the AFC.


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[Assistant] You need to be able to shut these quarterbacks down, shut these premier wide receivers down. And so you have a couple of options here. I think somebody who would be interesting and I know this is going to be a controversial one and I have a pair for another team that I like a little bit better.


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[Assistant] With the Los Angeles rims kind of needing to cut salary and kind of redo their books, you bring a guy like that back who again was a controversial figure left on not so great terms, but


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[Assistant] Totally different regime, totally different. Everything's different other than the ownership there. So I do wonder if all of a sudden you put him back in Jacksonville, how would that look for the Jaguars?


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[Assistant] And, you know, they have guys on that, on that, in that secondary that can play well and play at a high level. But when you're talking about legitimately contending, I mean, this team made the playoffs, won a playoff game.


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[Assistant] If all of a sudden you add a legitimate game breaker when he's right in Jalen Ramsey or anybody along those lines, whether it's a high draft pick that you want to bring in a cornerback or anything like that.


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[Assistant] I think that that would be a game changer for the Jacksonville Jaguars. So I think secondary in just a, in a, as a whole. And if you want to throw a little, little chaos in there, then give me Jalen Ramsey back to them.


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[Assistant] First and foremost, Orlando Brown. That needs to get figured out. Probably gonna franchise him. He's the premier tackle in the NFL. You can't lose a guy like that, so...


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[Assistant] Put that off the side. That's their number one priority, I guess, in terms of on the roster. But I do think that they could use some edge rushing help as well. Like I do think that that's a piece to them. They're kind of getting a little bit of an aging roster at that spot. They did draft George Carlaptis last year.


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[Assistant] But I think that this is a team, because they're the Super Bowl champions, because everybody expects them to be in contention for a championship year in and year out. This is where the veterans are going to go now. This is where all these guys who are still hunting for a ring.


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[Assistant] That has to, you know, work itself out with, with Cleveland and all that. And that needs, and he needs to be on board and be a good soldier.


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[Assistant] than they were this year. good next year. Like I th who sees an uptick in pl uptick in production. I was a guy last year going I did the podcast with Wil I thought he'd be good va rookie of the year. Obviu decided to crash that par


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[Assistant] But I thought that he was someone who is in a good setting and I still like his prospects going forward to be a key piece to that defensive line, obviously with Chris Jones in the interior. So that's to me is something to look at with the Kansas City Chiefs. If we're going to keep going, let's look at Las Vegas and this one's easy, right? Quarterback.


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[Assistant] Let's see what, let's see what they do, right? Let's see how they attack this. And we know that they're going to lose or they've already gotten rid of Derek Carr.


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[Assistant] The question is how are they going to fill this spot? What are they gonna do? Are they gonna trade, pre-agency, draft?


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[Assistant] I've said Lamar Jackson's an interesting guy. If, if, if all of a sudden he demands a trade, there's a relationship there between him and Josh McDaniel's going way back. They had a private workout in South Florida. Apparently it went, what came out of it being like unbelievable. Josh McDaniel's extremely impressed with them according to reports. And so the Patriots ended up drafting him, but that was always something that I thought was super interesting.


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[Assistant] Only since then, he's won an MVP, so I'm sure that Josh Medina still likes him to a certain degree now.


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[Assistant] Get Jimmy Garoppolo in free agency. Again, that relationship with Josh McDaniels, is that someone who they feel is a substantial upgrade from Derek Carr? Because that's how I kinda look at it, right? Like, you're not gonna move on from Derek Carr to go to Jimmy Garoppolo, are you? That kinda feels like a lateral move.


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[Assistant] Or you're swinging hard for Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers or something like that. Like I don't see them doing the Jimmy Garoppolo in between. Just feels too lateral of a movie. Should have just kept car at that point, right?


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[Assistant] Is this team going, Sully? It's, it would be weird. So this is kind of what I was going to get to. It feels like the Garoppolo kind of signing feels like a lateral move. And if they go young and they go after just say Will Levis at number seven.


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[Assistant] It just kind of feels like that's not part of the timeline with the rest of this roster, right? I mean, last off season, they go after and get Devonte Adams, who is not a spring chicken. He's, he's in the prime of his career. He's ready to contend. You go after Chandler Jones, same type of thing. You have Darren Waller, you have these guys that are


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[Assistant] Is afforded that much? Like, I don't think that they're gonna fire Josh McDaniels, but it did even feel a little hairy there at certain points last year. I mean, the dude's losing to Baker Mayfield when he first arrived in LA. He loses to Jeff Saturday in the Indianapolis Colts. I mean, like,


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[Assistant] We were having those conversations, like, alright, like, what's gonna go on here with Josh McDaniels and Mark Davis? Now, I think that they're more prone to go with a veteran quarterback that gives them that higher ceiling, so.


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[Assistant] It would feel like that, that move would make more sense if they go like superstar, swing for the fences, quarterback as opposed to a rookie.


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[Assistant] I think what's, you might not even think that this is a big need for them because


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[Assistant] They have, you know, Mike Williams and Keenan Allen, but I think wide receiver is like a, a sneaky big need for this team. There's been talk that Keenan Allen could be a cap casualty. They can clear around a decent amount of cap space. It's a little over $15 million that they can clear for a guy getting rid of him.


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[Assistant] He's getting a little bit older. His health isn't exactly, he's not the model of health to be on the field every single week. Same thing with Mike Williams. And when both those guys go down, you do see a precipitous drop in terms of the production. As good as Justin Herbert is, he does need


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[Assistant] Some semblance of a top tier wide receiver.


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[Assistant] I think that that's kind of where you, where you kind of look at here if you're Los Angeles.


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[Assistant] Where you do that and who that is, is, is gonna be interesting. Like are you a DeAndre Hopkins contender? Are you somebody that's gonna go into the NFL draft and drop one of these young guys and hope that you hit? Like that's gonna be kind of the fascinating thing there. I think that Hopkins is interesting.


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[Assistant] Now, you know, he's an, he's another guy who's, you know, on the wrong side of 30 and


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[Assistant] You know, you can say, okay, that's kind of putting a bandaid on a bullet hole type of a thing because what does that do for you long term?


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[Assistant] I think that he's somebody who could elevate this offense in the wake of maybe losing a guy like Keenan Allen.


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[Assistant] If all of a sudden a premier tackle sitting there waiting for you, whether it's in the free agent market or at the NFL draft, absolutely go get it. I'm never going to go after you for protecting your quarterback, especially when it's a guy like Justin Herbert, who is legitimately talent wise.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, no, sure, I'll absolutely go offensive tackle there. And so it's kind of the same thing with the next team too, with the Miami Dolphins. Like, it's the offensive line. Protecting Juatango Bailoa, especially considering the season that we just saw from him.


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[Assistant] They already kind of have pieces in place. Maybe you could say that they need a little bit more of a running game, I guess, but like, I don't know, like, I, I, I, from one and more.


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[Assistant] Give him, give to Atanga as much protection as possible. Mike McGlinchey might be somebody that you look at to, to man right tackle. Obviously they still have Theron Armstead at their left tackle spot. They spent big on him and free agency a year ago, but maybe you kind of doubled down on it in the second consecutive off season to solidify that right side. And again,


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[Assistant] Let's go with, we'll stay with the AFCs, we'll go with the New England Patriots, my New England Patriots, and


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[Assistant] I mean, we see all these quarterbacks outside of like Patrick Mahomes, who is just otherworldly, but you see Joe Burrow leaning on a guy like Jamar Chase. We see like Kirk Cousins leaning on a guy.


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[Assistant] Like Justin Jefferson. They all need these guys. And even Patrick Mahomes. I mean, he has, as much as I'm saying, he doesn't need a star wide receiver. He has the best tight end in the NFL right now. And Travis Kelsey. So wherever you can get that kind of


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[Assistant] T Higgins is a name that everybody talks about, whether it's, it's similar to AJ Brown a year ago, a dude that needs a contract. Maybe his team is not.


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[Assistant] Able to give him that because they're signing their quarterback and another wide receiver next off season. So that's something where you look at and you say, okay, could you package the first round pick along with maybe whatever else you need to do and then sign them to a big money deal. If you're not going to go down that road.


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[Assistant] You need an offensive tackle. You need to protect Mac Jones like we were saying with these other quarterbacks. You have Trent Brown who you could clear cap space to get rid of this year. I believe Isaiah Wynn is going to hit free agency this year as well.


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[Assistant] How they operate the quarterback spot. Because you could naturally say, alright, Derek Carr, like that's, that makes all the sense in the world.


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[Assistant] I think that Woody Johnson, this whole Jets organization, I think that they'd be too tempted.


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[Assistant] To see, alright, well what happens with, with Aaron Rodgers? Because I think that that is their preferred option. I mean, why wouldn't it be? If you get a motivated Aaron Rodgers coming to your organization, one that we all, I feel, view as a quarterback away from really being a significant player in the AFC considering all the young talent that they have around them.


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[Assistant] I don't know why you wouldn't want to see that fruit. Derek Carr is certainly an upgrade.


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[Assistant] But I don't know if you're, if you're winning the Super Bowl with it. I don't know if you're going to be in those discussions with Derek Carr as your quarterback. You'll be able to contend for a playoff spot for sure.


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[Assistant] But if you get Aaron Rodgers, you're talked about as a Super Bowl contender. You're a sexy pick in the same vein as Tom Brady going to Tampa Bay, Matthew Stafford going to Los Angeles. You're kind of following that same route.


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[Assistant] You know, as much as car kinda makes sense, I guess, on paper.


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[Assistant] I don't know if the ceiling with cars is enough for them to sign them right now, because again,


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[Assistant] Derek Clark can sign any moment now. It doesn't, he can go whenever he wants. He doesn't have to wait till the start of pre-agency. And I guess the same thing applies here with Aaron Rodgers in a certain degree because they can trade them whenever they want.


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[Assistant] It's not like he's going to be a free agent, but he's in some hyperbolic chamber, dark room for the next however many days. So we have to wait and see what goes on with Aaron Rodgers. And I think that maybe a team like New Orleans, maybe a little bit too, or more eager to sign Derek Carr, which again leaves


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[Assistant] The New York Jets kind of on the outside looking in. So I think that they go quarterback. It's just a matter of how they get there and whether it's, and if they strike out on Aaron Rodgers, if he decides he comes out of this, this whatever or decides to stay in Green Bay or goes to Las Vegas.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that might think that you lose out on Derek Carr if he ends up signing with New Orleans, but at the same time, he could probably just sign Jimmy Garoppolo. And like we were saying earlier, that feels like the same type of a move. And Robert Sala has a relationship with him from their days in San Francisco.


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[Assistant] Real quickly, Pittsburgh Steelers, this is the other Jalen Ramsey team I was talking about. This one I feel like makes way more sense and it would be just way more fun to see him.


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[Assistant] In Pittsburgh, playing in that defense with TJ Watt and just absolutely owning that set secondary. So to me, I think that that would be a fascinating pairing. They already have George Pickens. This team can draft on offense. I'm not worried about them finding talent.


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[Assistant] on the offensive side of the ball. I want the Pittsburgh Steelers having to lead defense when they're going up against Joe Burrow, Deshaun Watson, maybe even still Lamar Jackson. I want them to have one of the more feared defenses in the NFL. They already have that in terms of pass rush. I want the secondary division.


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[Assistant] Take that next step to be elite and bringing in a guy like Jalen Ramsey, who again, I think Los Angeles might have to get rid of in terms of just financial purposes. I think that that would be an interesting pairing. And then finally, and this is just, we can just go quickly here. It's Tennessee offensive line.


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[Assistant] You can question, you know, is quarterback gonna be the thing? Because they could get rid of Ryan Tannehill and clear a bunch of cap space and go up Malik Willis. That's a conversation that you can have. But in terms of just the roster right now, you need to replenish that offensive line in the worst way.


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[Assistant] Again, wherever you want to get that, like, you know, if you want to go into the DeAndre Hopkins waters, if you want to be one of these teams where T Higgins becomes available and you want to do something along those lines, then


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[Assistant] Sure. Like that's totally fine. Or if you want to draft somebody, that's again, that's fine as well. I think you might have to take multiple stabs at a wide receiver too. Like I don't think that they're one wide receiver away from.


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[Assistant] being a capable offense. I mean, we're talking about, uh, you know, these guys that were on practice squads making significant impacts on this team a year ago. So like they need a couple of different stabs. I don't have saying that you have to do first round, second round, third round, all wide receiver, but


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[Assistant] You do kinda have to replenish that room. I mean you did lose.


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[Assistant] You know, you're re-signing Isaiah Hodgins, and you're saying that, you know, he was a huge piece for them, but he was on the, you know, he was a back-up in Buffalo. Like, it's not like you're talking about anybody that's,


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[Assistant] Has any sort of cache. So for me it's wide receiver, no matter how you get it, whether it's drafting.


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[Assistant] Trading, free agency, that to me is the number one priority, obviously with Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley coming back as well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I would think Corner is definitely a clear need for them. I like their own in-back situation too. I mean, if all of a sudden Robinson out of Texas is sitting there at number 30, at the end of the first round, that would be a fun pick. That's a fun, from a fantasy football perspective, that's a fun pick. That is a good time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's still quarterback, right? I know that there's so many reports, and I know it, our own Jonathan Jones is reporting that Sam Howell is entering the off-season program as quarterback one.


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[Assistant] They're talking, and throughout the entire process of their offensive coordinator search, they were telling, according to JJ, that they had in mind that, that Howell's gonna be their guy, at least to start the off-season program and all of that stuff.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I believe him, though. Like, I just don't know if I believe that. Cause if all of a sudden, like...


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[Assistant] That high, like, is his ceiling gonna be that high? Like, I don't know. It's just, he was like the fifth quarterback taken last year. And again, that doesn't necessarily mean that he's not gonna be good. I mean, we've, we've had quarterbacks fall into the NFL draft and have great NFL careers, obviously.


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[Assistant] I, I just feel like, you know, they're not doing them, they're doing themselves a bit of disservice. I think they've mismanaged the quarterback situation for the last few years here. Even last offseason when they were going after Carson Wentz, they were like the first team.


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[Assistant] And they were already sitting there with cars once, it just made no sense to me. So this off season, it might be smart to sit back and say, Hey, listen, we're going to be happy with what we have, but don't.


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[Assistant] Not look around. Like you can still go shopping. Like let's not, let's not, let's not just go home with the groceries here. Let's, let's keep our eyes in the aisle.


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[Assistant] Absolutely not. So to me, it's still quarterback. As much as they'll say, like it's, you know, and I believe that that's what they're saying. I just don't know if when push comes to shove and if a quarterback staring them in the face, I still think that they would go after that guy, whoever that may be. And they also have a lot of ownership.


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[Assistant] Cause they have a good roster, like you said, like, you know, the defense plays well. They have Terry McClorn, who's one of the best receivers in the NFL, Jahan Dotson as well. I mean, Brian Robinson is a good running back for them as well. Obviously after just a crazy start to his career, obviously getting shot and missing the first few weeks there.


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[Assistant] They have a good, they have pieces around them that if you insert a decent quarterback, I think that you're not that far off from making some noise in the NFC East.


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[Assistant] Well, this is what's going to be interesting. It's the skill positions. I kind of lumping it all together.


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[Assistant] I do think that the backfield is probably going to be the most interesting. You know, Zeke is not at the point in his career now where he can carry a backfield and Tony Pollard was clearly the better back now and you can make a case that


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[Assistant] He might find it somewhere, find a better contract somewhere else, and he leaves Dallas. I mean, yes, they could, you know, put the franchise tag on him and we'll see what happens there, but like.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't know if that's a guarantee that he's returning. Yeah, he's a key piece to their offense. But if all of a sudden a team comes around and says, hey, we'll pay X amount of dollars and Dallas is only coming in a shorter amount, then.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's in his right to go leave somewhere. So to me, it's the skill position. Whether you lose Tony Pollard, then yes, you have to replenish that in some way, shape, or form in free agency or via the draft. And if you're able to retain that, I would then move my attention towards a number two wide receiver somewhere. Whether again, it's draft, trade, free agency.


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[Assistant] Which hole is getting plugged up first? Well, let's just do this. Let's make life easier for us and speed this thing up. The AFC, the NFC South, you have the Atlanta Falcons, you have the Carolina Panthers, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the Roland Saints. Outside of playing in the same division, what do they have in common?


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[Assistant] They all need a quarterback. Every single one of them. Tom Brady's gone, that he's retired and you have new regimes all across that, you know, with Frank Wright coming into Carolina. They all need new quarterbacks. And so,


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[Assistant] Again, how they go about doing it I think is going to be interesting. I think that you have a team in the New Orleans Saints who it feels like Derek Carr is a really strong candidate there. It doesn't feel like he's a fit or at least there's much talk about him going to any of those other teams in that division, which is kind of interesting because I do think that


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[Assistant] Tampa Bay could be a fascinating spot for him, but I think that they're a veteran quarterback. They're going to be in the veteran quarterback market. Maybe Jimmy Garoppolo, he fulfills his destiny of succeeding. Tom Brady just happens to be in Tampa Bay, but Atlanta to me is fun because they could be a Lamar Jackson team.


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[Assistant] Just kind of, this generation's Michael Vick, wearing the Falcons uniforms, running around like that to me.


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[Assistant] Would be so fun and they have weapons on offense that you could even make a case or better than Baltimore's right now, like Drake London.


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[Assistant] Is better than any wide receiver that the Baltimore Ravens have. Kyle Pitts, talent wise, is right there with Mark Andrews. He just, they just didn't throw him the football last year. And I know that as a Mark Andrews, uh, as a Kyle Pitts fantasy football owner, it was not a fun experience. But if you put a guy like Lamar Jackson in there,


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[Assistant] Atlanta swinging for the fences, maybe with Lamar Jackson. Carolina starting over with a young quarterback. And then you have New Orleans and Tampa Bay kind of in that veteran quarterback market.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think that they do. I don't, I think Justin Fields has showed you, I think, you can probably attest to this as well, I think Justin Fields is very much on a similar path to Jalen Hurts. I think that he is in that same kind of ascension.


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[Assistant] Not maybe as polished as a passer, but at the same time, if all of a sudden they put capable pieces around him,


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[Assistant] Then you can start having the conversation. You can, you can truly evaluate him at that point is, is I guess the best way to say that. So,


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[Assistant] If the number one overall pick, Will Anderson, is probably just the easy answer, right? You just, you know, you help your edge.


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[Assistant] And you help your defense. Now, if you want to get crazy with it, like you sell that pick to the highest bidder and you have multiple pieces on the defensive side.


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[Assistant] Coming in, like if you can get multiple first round picks, like if all of a sudden Houston wants to get crazy.


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[Assistant] And so here's two and twelve because we really love Bryce Young and we don't want Indy to get him. Then sure, like you do that and you continue to maximize what you have in terms of assets because this is a team that not only has the number one overall pick this year, they have the most cap space by far out of anybody else in the NFL. So they can kind of.


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[Assistant] Revamp this thing relatively quickly, like as much as we're talking about.


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[Assistant] You know, New England or these other teams maybe getting a wide receiver and training the first round pick for them. Like Chicago could do that easily and sign them to a massive contract as well. And that's one thing that, you know, is, it could be interesting with Indianapolis as well. If they all of a sudden want to go young and kind of are doing a soft rebuild with the quarterback.


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[Assistant] Well, Michael Pittman's in that same boat as needing a new contract and you might want to get paid and maybe that doesn't fit your timeline. So all of a sudden, if they want to move up to one, you get their first round pick and Michael Pittman, well, all right, you're starting to cook a little bit with, with, with Justin Fields in that offense. So.


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[Assistant] I would lean a little bit more towards building that young core out, like I would go draft that way, because it just doesn't, again, it doesn't feel like they're like a Super Bowl contender, like I don't think that you should go after, like we were talking about, uh, Billy, like I don't think, like Jalen Ramsey's a guy, like that's, they're a candidate for Jalen Ramsey, I don't think that that would make much sense, no?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I would go Minnesota too, especially with Brian Flores coming into their DC, like, you know, I think that they are trending upward as well, and I think that they have a little bit more of a higher ceiling. Yeah, I mean, Detroit is grittier, they play tougher because of Dan Campbell and all that stuff, like we were saying earlier, he's biting kneecaps and all that, but like,


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[Assistant] I still like the top tier talent with Minnesota. And so, yeaah, no, I would lean more that way.


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[Assistant] Do we even find like a, some sort of pass catching tight end as well? Like are they in that kind of?


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, okay, they're the betting favorite and all that. And you know, we could say like, okay, they need a cornerback and help that secondary or help that defense or add another wide receiver.


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[Assistant] The elephant in the room is that like, your quarterback who was playing well, but the ceiling for that quarterback, it feels a little, and I'm not saying this to be rude, but like it feels more Alex Smithy than it does Patrick Mahomesy, if that makes sense.


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[Assistant] You were in the darkroom? Good for you, wow. Yeah, I think he's out now, right? He might be, I have no idea. Or he went back in. Who knows?


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[Assistant] I don't think you're getting cafeteria food during the, whatever it's called. But, no, I think that, yeaah, first and foremost, figure out what you're gonna do with, with Aaron Rodgers. I mean, at some point, I think this is the off season though, right? Like, if you're gonna stay with Aaron Rodgers, then this is the off season you trade Jordan Love. Like, you gotta pick a side at a certain point.


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[Assistant] I mean, you basically, I mean, the whole idea was when you have these first round rookies, you take advantage of them being on a rookie contract. They're going to go, if they go this route, they're going to go from paying quarterback $50 million a season to now 50 year option.


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[Assistant] And so that's gonna, it's gonna hurt you from addressing other needs on this roster like wide receiver. Like this team, you know, Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs.


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[Assistant] Great starts, but do you add other pieces here? We're just kind of talking about other pieces. That is not enough. Like exactly what we're saying with Detroit.


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[Assistant] You know, and that's even, those are higher end guys in terms of talent, but all of a sudden you start getting hurt. Like, you're not that deep at that spot. Like, you need to start replenishing the pool.


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[Assistant] Yeah. No, Gino Smith's obviously the number one guy. It feels like out of all these quarterback situations, even like throw in Daniel Jones, throw in all these, this just feels like the one that's super clear cut, like he's going to re-sign.


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[Assistant] But, you know, isn't it always the one that you're least expecting, you gotta keep your head on the swivel in the NFL, who knows what happens? So, you know, yeaah, as much as it seems like it's a slam dunk that Geno Smith will re-sign with Seattle and all of that,


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[Assistant] Never, never say it's 100% until we see the tweet where he's signing the contract and all that stuff.


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[Assistant] He does match up their timeline, though, a lot. Like, you know, I was talking about this with the Raiders. Like, if they go young at quarterback, it just doesn't feel like that matches their timeline with the rest of that roster with all those guys they got last year.


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[Assistant] If you get Geno Smith, it does feel like that makes a little bit more sense when you have guys like DK Metcalf, Tyler, Tyler Lockett. Like it feels like you're starting to try to contend in that. I mean, obviously you are trying to contend in the NFC West.


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[Assistant] And you have teams that are either rebuilding or trying to revamp. Like you might be the most stable team in that division outside of the San Francisco 49ers.


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[Assistant] Whether or not Tray Lance is good, whether Brock Purdy is ready to start the season, like do you have to add somebody else? I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo is good as gone, but do you bring in somebody else to, to kind of at least be the


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[Assistant] That's still a lot of money to invest. And if you feel like you can kind of get that elsewhere, I think that wide receiver could increasingly become a position in need for them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I mean, that's a huge question. And it's so tough to evaluate Los Angeles because it feels like we never really even saw them, right? Like,


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[Assistant] It feels like we saw them for the first like, I don't know, eight weeks of the season and then they started to really mail it in. But I think that yeaah, defensively,


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[Assistant] No, no, I don't think so. You've spent so much.


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[Assistant] The only thing that might be interesting is if you're just in such a financial mind, like we were talking about earlier in the podcast is a guy like Jalen Ramsey, expendable. And that's more of an impact to other teams throughout the league. Like, you know, yeah, obviously you would like to.


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[Assistant] Keep a guy of his caliber, especially if he's playing at his powers, but at the same time he might be an expendable piece.


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[Assistant] Yeah, maybe like Mike McGlinchey if you're looking at like a veteran free agent or something like that, like stealing from your division opponent. I mean, they were 27th offensive line in the NFL according to Football Outsiders last year. They were


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[Assistant] So, Clyde Edwards-O'Layers active. We don't know what that's going to look like. Isaiah Wacheco has been sort of the go-to guy, uh, the last half of the season or so and had a great run as that rookie seventh round pick. Uh, but we know that the Eagles defense is stout. Jerick McKinnon is a change of pace. And if you only need 19 and a half and he did that,


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[Assistant] Six times over the season, and, uh, while in recent weeks he wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire because they found other ways to win, I think it only takes one end around, it only takes one run up the middle, and you can get halfway there, and then three or four more carries, you got the 19 and a half.


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[Assistant] Oh, what you got? Jalen Hurts. Ooh! Fifty and a half rushing yards.


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[Assistant] So I'm going to go with Isaiah Pacheco. I mentioned in the last segment, Jeremy


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[Assistant] I, I can follow that, but not with quite the, the, the vim and vigor.


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[Assistant] No, no. This won't be quite as exciting, but there is some excitement factor in this thing here, Preach. Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] But I think with the ankle, there's an opportunity for a short yardage touchdown. I like the plus 1600.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the pick six podcast. CBS sports daily uniform podcast. I'm your host. The first day of the divisional round is done.


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[Assistant] Oh my God. Look at John breach is tweaking in his seat because he knows what's there. Okay. Ryan Wilson and John breach joining me to break down. Not an electric first day of the divisional games. An interesting first day, not electric.


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[Assistant] The two teams who advise were substantially better than the other teams. And if not for Apache Mahomes injury to his ankle, she's probably roll the Jaguars. We'll get into all that. The reason Wilson Breach is tweaking and he's tweaking hard. This is he's doing the Andy Dalton. There's a path thing right now with the Bengals to win the Super Bowl because he knows that the Holmes is banged up. If the Bengals win on Sunday, they have to just beat up.


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[Assistant] Are you excited as I am about Reach's, uh, hopes and dreams being crushed?


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[Assistant] You know, the NFL expanding playoff, like expanding the playoffs is 100% driven out of greed. Because you know, a $14 billion company needs more money. I, as almost always, the NFL has stumbled into


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[Assistant] And like that, like there should be a reward for being the best team in your conference. I like that idea.


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[Assistant] I'll throw this out there. This is time sensitive. It's a money line parlay for those watching the late night. We do a Brandon Moreno in the UFC fight minus 135 with the Bengals to win outright in Buffalo plus two 10 and the 49ers to win.


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[Assistant] Yeah, dude, this game was fun. The egos game was like, uh, Oh God, we really have to podcast with Billy tonight. Um, by the way, the teaser in the cover in the chief's Jaguars game is sort of it. Correct me if I'm wrong.


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[Assistant] Like five or 10 years ago, teams didn't kick the field goal first. Cause they're dumb.


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[Assistant] Right. But they, but they would just like go for it on fourth down and you would not get it and then it'd be over and you'd win by, the other team would win by 10. Like that's like, that's a pretty huge sea change in terms of like spread coverage, right?


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[Assistant] Do you remember when the Browns beat the Steelers? Like they kicked their ass at the playoffs and then they played the Chiefs the next week and AD Reid went for a fourth and one and Chatty just whip it to Tyree Kill. Sorry, I know the Steelers thing wasn't necessary. My apologies. That's okay.


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[Assistant] Like, Breach, what are you, uh, you're, you're what, 53 years old? You're younger than you. I'm kidding.


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[Assistant] Like Chad Hayes, 37, man. It's pretty, like, it's, it's kind of interesting. You sort of wonder why more teams don't do this. And I guess you have to have an established like stud quarterback, but instead of just having this young, like Aidy Reed has got this old guy behind my homes.


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[Assistant] Who knows the system, who's ready to go. It's sort of like Jim Sorgi was a Peyton. Like he's made some big plays, man.


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[Assistant] Uh, yes, and this is correct too, by the way. Scott Murphy.


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[Assistant] Resulted in the, um, the eagle or the, uh, excuse me, the Jaguars covering. Now I had Jaguars plus two and a half of a homes for now, so it's fine. But like that, that changes the, the arithmetic when you start thinking about the spread.


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[Assistant] If you're, if you're a nine point favorite and your team's down 10 and they get a fourth within field goal race, they're going to kick. They didn't used to do that.


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[Assistant] It's, I mean, the Chiefs led this game from... You should have done that, yeaah. The Chiefs dominated this game. Alright, so here's the bigger question about this game. On a scale of 1 to 10, Wilson. What is your concern?


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[Assistant] Breach, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what they wanted to do was see like, can we kind of extend this lead with Pacheco and like Kenny and maybe turn this into not a game and Mahomes sits and they get half and they get to half and the homes like Eddie, this is the freaking playoffs.


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[Assistant] Just James Palmer of NFL media, as Billy points out in Slack, Patrick Mahomes doesn't even have a boot on his foot. No wrap or boot or anything. He's wearing sneakers. This guy's a freak, man. What the hell?


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[Assistant] Are you suggesting that Mahomes is the new uhm, who's the ultimate injury faker?


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[Assistant] Don't draft the guy in the first round. Who else are you talking about? I was saying that like, it's like, Pacheco, the chief's drafted in the first round and then redrafted Pacheco in the seventh round.


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[Assistant] I think that the last couple of weeks, I think that your particular point is really interesting because as someone who did a ton of, like it did a ton of basketball drafts, it has a ton of Jared McKinnon. Last year we thought that, you know, last year they lead on Jared McKinnon in the playoffs, the Chiefs did. And we assumed that they would lead on Jared McKinnon in the playoffs this year.


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[Assistant] But what's interesting, and I talked about this at halftime with, um, or excuse me, in between the games with Joe Musso and BMAC.


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[Assistant] Pacheco and McKinnon give them two different styles of runners.


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[Assistant] But Chaco is a violent, he's so violent running. He moves his feet more than anyone I've ever seen running the football. And McKinnon is a, how about that block by the way?


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[Assistant] He's a great pass blocker. He's a great pass catcher. He can run between the tackles. It is a very, I think, um, I think it was Musso said it's a, a nice diversification of their run game for the chiefs. That makes it very dangerous in the playoffs because if they have a lead, you go to Pacheco. If you're trailing, you go to McKinnon.


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[Assistant] And that makes it really hard to defend because you don't know who Andy Reid is going to pop out there.


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[Assistant] In Jacksonville's defense, I do this all the time. I give myself stupid reasons to defend terrible angles, but when the homes went out.


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[Assistant] But again, this is, this is on Jacksonville. This is not me defending Jacksonville. When my holes went out, I was on a text message with my buddy Justin, he's like,


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[Assistant] I said, man, I'm a little worried about, you know, is Kelsey gonna get his numbers of my homes out? And he's like,


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[Assistant] They're probably going to throw to him four times more often. I was like, Oh God, you're right. They did. Like if you're Jacksonville and Chad Hennie is under center bracket and triple bracket, Travis Kelsey.


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[Assistant] This is, yeah, this is look, okay. So all the Jaguars real quick. All right. So let's talk about Chief's Batchup. Uhm, so Breach.


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[Assistant] How excited are you to play the Chiefs in the NCAA Championship?


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[Assistant] The big ones were not these five point favorites in Arrowhead, even with Patrick Mahomes out.


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[Assistant] The babies have beaten the chief three times in the last calendar year.


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[Assistant] Platitudes, the one to congratulate people for success for winning a bunch of games. Can we all agree that this was a successful season for the Jacksonville Jaguars? I believe I said that literally 15 minutes ago.


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[Assistant] Cause the only other answer is the 2017 AFC championship game. Obviously this is the highest point of the Jaguars franchise in the last 10 years.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Cause they shout out to daddy pat, RIP daddy pat. My, uh, my grandfather was the original Jaguar. She didn't take it over, but like they have not been good for decades.


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[Assistant] This again, you should feel really good about your future.


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[Assistant] By the way, it's like the last time they went to the, or like the Brunel years as Wilson pointed out. I mean that the Colts are in disarray. The Titans just hired a new GM. The Texans. I mean, my gosh. Texans. Yeah. I mean the Jags could.


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[Assistant] If Trevor Lawrence is the prospect that we generally thought he would be, AKA in the mold of luck, manning in LA, the Jags could run this division for like five or 10 years or two years and he retires and goes to do a book club.


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[Assistant] Like, and I'm not, I mean, Wilson never dogged Trevor Lawrence.


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[Assistant] No, I appreciate the full disclosure. I don't want to come here and be like, remember when Ryan Wilson questioned Trevor Lawrence? Cause you didn't do that. You were just like, look, we have to ask these questions. Now it was primarily because of urban buyer who is in arguably the worst head coach in the history of the NFL. Trevor Lawrence, even with who's worse, who?


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[Assistant] Dude, Urban got fired mid-season despite the fact that he had multiple championships from college football.


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[Assistant] He grabbed somebody's ass, didn't take the flight home, was caught, he was filmed grabbing a girl's butt in his own bar in Cincinnati after a game that he didn't fly home with the team.


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[Assistant] Oh my God, why do I have this glove here? It's so weird. So, um, this is Mount Rushmore. This is Urban Meyer. Down here in the Southern Hemisphere breach. It flips, by the way. The toilet's flushed differently. Down here is Bobby Retrito. And your boy, who's your boy, uh, who's the worst Bengals coach?


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[Assistant] He left, he left, he left coaching for like 30 years ago, run a steak house, then try to come back and be a coach. Irwin Meyer is the pinnacle of terrible coaching in the NFL. Anyway, moving on.


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[Assistant] Birdmeyer is the worst coaching hire in the history of all sports.


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[Assistant] The bingo's are moving on. I mean, excuse me, the other Joe, I got the big one. There's Freudian slip there by me and she's moving on and we're going to take a break. It wouldn't come back. We're going to talk about and won't let Billy talk about the egos and giants next.


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[Assistant] I feel, I feel like my, I feel like my 2017 bills take is kind of correct. That's who the giants are.


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[Assistant] Well, so this is what I told you, like, you just gotta beat it into people's heads. You gotta say it so many times if you were like, where's that? Now, unfortunately, when I told you to do it, you did it. And your first try was McChance. So you kind of banged on that one.


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[Assistant] I think when Bill O'Brien comes to New England, he'll be good.


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[Assistant] Would you rather be the Giants or would you rather be the Cowboys or the Giants?


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[Assistant] The Eagles are loaded on the offensive line and defensive line and the Giants are getting loaded on both sides.


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[Assistant] What we have here, we have a lengthy sample size of date of Dak Prescott with the same coaching staff over multiple years.


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[Assistant] What we have with Daniel Jones is a single year sample size compared to.


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[Assistant] It was, who were his coaches? Pat Scherber and Joe Judge. Hmm. And now Brian Dable.


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[Assistant] And all of a sudden Danny dimes is slinging it. Dude, the eagles.


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[Assistant] Again, to, to my point about the 2017 bills, remember when our, our co our former colleague, Sean Bleeber Magoo?


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[Assistant] Well, he refused to put Sean McDermott in his top 10 coaches because he benched Tyra Taylor for Nathan Peterman again in 2017 against the chargers with the bills. He's like, that was, that was the, that was the breaking point. This is a really good coaching staff, a really good front office.


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[Assistant] They've made, they've hit hermones on draft picks. They lucked into a couple good picks from Dave Gettleman. Dexter Lawrence is a monster. How dare you. Dave Gettleman didn't


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[Assistant] Every Jay's, every Jay's fan, every, every Jay's fan you talk to right now.


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[Assistant] We'll sign on the dotted line for Danny dimes, 30 million a year.


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[Assistant] How many of you really can't figure out how these comments keep popping up?


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[Assistant] So, uh, Dan Shire, one of our great editors at cbsports.com and myself and Jared Duman were talking about this on Twitter. And he was like, he's like, he's like, Dable has to be the favorite to be the coach of the year.


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[Assistant] And my point was, I don't think he is the favorite to be coach of the year and not because he shouldn't be, but because I think everyone will vote for Kyle Shanahan or Sirianni. Like this, this coach of the year, like.


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[Assistant] Ballot is insane. Picking three guys like your top three coach of the year is tough, man. There are a lot of like Andy Reid deserves love. He trades Tyreek Hill and he wins the division. He's rolling. I think Sean McDermott deserves love. You got Doug Peterson. Nick Sirianni.


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[Assistant] Jeff Saturday, we're talking about like a who's who of great coaches guys.


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[Assistant] They're like, oh, it's been so long since we've had a title. Meanwhile, breach is like, breach is willing to.


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[Assistant] Like do things that we can't say on this podcast.


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[Assistant] What are you talking about? These Yankee fans, Giants fans have 27 World Series. They have like two Super Bowls in the last 25 years. It's been so long.


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[Assistant] You won't take that Christmas tree down until the Bengals lose. And it's not for like a bit for the podcast. It's entirely superstitious because you will do anything in your life to get the Bengals or Super Bowl win. Meanwhile, these Giants fans are like, uh.


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[Assistant] A lifelike Eagles fan jumped on this bandwagon, became an Eagles fan. My ticket is 38 to one Eagles to win the Superbowl. 38 to one for the Eagles. That's crazy. They look like the best team in the NRC.


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[Assistant] Here's what we'll do. We'll create a fake Pixix podcast roulette table. Billy can be the green tab. If it lands, you have no control over this by the way, Billy. I will, I will make sure this is randomized and we'll give, we'll give out numbers for the podcast listeners.


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[Assistant] And whoever hits it, I'll give them a chunk of the change. It's green, but you won't. Don't worry. Uh, you can have it. Um, by the way, my best bet of the week.


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[Assistant] Jalen hurts under rushing yards 50 and a half. I thought, I thought that actually this is.


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[Assistant] I would have brought you in, but you already brought yourself in. Um, I thought that it was like interesting how you could see that Sirianni and the coaching staff and hurts like, look, we're winning this game. If we just execute, do not get hurt.


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[Assistant] Do not take a hit because you're going to have one week to prepare for the next game. And then if we win that game, you got two weeks. Like it was very, very, very clear to me that they did not want Jalen hurts to take a shot to the, to the shoulder, right?


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[Assistant] It's a compliment to Sirianni and the staff. They understood the situation and they game planned as such to make sure that Jalen Hurts wouldn't be dealing with a shoulder injury.


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[Assistant] Don't you don't need a truck stick. Some dudes like just go down, go down. If, if you see an offender, go down, we're going to beat the shit. Oh my God.


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[Assistant] By the way, as, as a bit second place, uh, Super Bowl, uh, Triathlon winner, C-Rad, points out, he didn't have to run. That's all the point.


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[Assistant] I said this three times this week on HQ.


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[Assistant] Wilson, I don't know if it was a GM or a scout or whoever said it hurts coming out of the big 12. I cited you every time. Thank you. The best.


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[Assistant] But they, I'm telling you, they clearly did not want him to re-injure his shoulder because they know if you get past the Giants who are a luck box, you got two games and one of those games is a bye.


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[Assistant] And you can just run the living crap out of jail that hurts in these, in the runs that no one can stop. They did not want him to get injured tonight.


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[Assistant] What, what's insane too, by the way, it's like the, the line of seizures was over eight and a half rushing attempts minus one 63. And he rushes for nine. Now he rusted nine times, but how, how the hell?


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[Assistant] How the hell does Vegas lock in over eight and a half months? No one's betting the over there and no one's betting the under.


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[Assistant] Well, I had the under on that. Um, what was the, uh, do you have to add to under two and a half catches too?


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[Assistant] The Eagles, the Eagles were the fully healthy adjacent, uh, Jalen Hurts are clearly the best team in the UFC. Now I think it's a really close, I think the Niners are close. If Purdy plays a great game.


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[Assistant] I'm sure you watch films of it later. So the, the, uh, no, I mean like the Vikings show up.


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[Assistant] And it's like, oh, Kirk Cousins can definitely hang with these guys. And they get obliterated.


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[Assistant] And I think that Brock Purdy could get obliterated except the scheme for the 49ers and the coaching around there.


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[Assistant] Is the difference maker and the Niners defense can limit what the like, I think it Eagles 49ers game.


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[Assistant] You make the line. What's the line for Eagles 49ers industry championship game? If the Niners make it past the Cowboys. If the Cowboys win, it is he.


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[Assistant] Hammer Jack on the freaking eagles to obliterate the cowboys.


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[Assistant] From like a, like an illegal black market and bet that on the Niners plus seven and a half.


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[Assistant] Look, I've, I've made bad lines in my, I've made nitty a bad line.


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[Assistant] It may be the weirdest thing that's ever happened on this podcast is that like Ryan Wilson is somehow, like he, I don't think, are you using a spreadsheet for this? You're just like dude in your head, right?


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[Assistant] You guys were, there was last season, you guys were murdering me.


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[Assistant] Breach, do you remember when I wanted to take the Rams and win the Super Bowl but you walked me off on them and put me on the 49ers? And then you guys spent the entire first half of the season killing me for taking the Niners? Nice try. You guys were murdering me. You guys were like, Kyle Shanahan's gotta go. Lynch's gotta go.


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[Assistant] What you're saying is that the entirety of the Patriots dynasty is an accidental luck job. I mean, kind of.


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[Assistant] But Brock Purdy before his last year at Iowa state was like considered a first round French prospect.


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[Assistant] Okay, but I understand you know that. But I don't think that... Thanks. Thanks. Thanks for that.


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[Assistant] Well, I think, I mean to, to the Brock Pardee, Tom Brady comparison, and I'm not trying to say Brock Pardee is Tom Brady, but.


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[Assistant] The one thing that like Brock, the two things Brock Purdy does really, really well. He makes good decisions and he makes the decisions quickly.


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[Assistant] Like he, he recognizes where the ball needs to go. He's a point guard. He's a Jason kid. He distributes the ball very quickly. He's Steve Nash.


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[Assistant] He's not a scoring point guard. He is a distributing point guard. That is his job. And people are like, oh, he throws the ball to CMC at the line of scrimmage. Who gives a crap?


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[Assistant] He knows exactly where the ball is supposed to go with the blocking scheme designed to get CMC open and CMC makes the decisions. He gets the ball to Debo where he needs to go. He gets the ball to Ayuk. Like, it's okay to be a, every quarterback is in the system. No one's a system quarterback. Everyone is a system quarterback. Like. Who are you preaching at right now?


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[Assistant] Eagles. That is going to be a really epic industry championship game. This will be fun to watch.


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[Assistant] I am completely overwhelmed by a better team. I'm going for Gusto and Yolo, but he knew, he knew they weren't likely to win that game.


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[Assistant] So you have to, like, f it, like, let's go right here. If we get it, maybe we put them in them. I, Brian Dabble.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know who the, who's your coach of the year? It's just, it's a really tough like pick. Obviously Arvo didn't matter, but I mean, my goodness.


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[Assistant] I do, I do think there's something like interesting to be thought about that, that approach late, like, like, what was the score? 31, uh, it was 31 nothing than 31-7 or was it 28-7?


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[Assistant] But, but I'm saying like, if you're, if you're Brian table, if you're a smart coach.


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[Assistant] He didn't play in weekend for that reason. I'm seeing like, like you're, you're coaching, you, you know, that you are, you're in the spot. You're down four touchdowns with a quarter left. You're not winning the playoff game. It's over.


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[Assistant] They were down 27 to nothing, and they came back in one.


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[Assistant] I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, we're going to end this podcast. I'm going to dig up your bad takes and just go tar heels.


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[Assistant] There it is. I'm sorry. That's it. It's over. Show's over. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. F Wilson, F Billy, F Breach, I'm out.


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[Assistant] Hello and welcome to the Pick Six Podcast. I'm your host Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and John Breach, the Brinsonator and Breach the Palooza. I saw that it saw.


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[Assistant] Down there for you guys. This is day one of 2023 free agency show. Make sure you join us all week long to keep up with all of the free agent signings. Also remember to like, comment, subscribe on our YouTube page and for everyone listening to the audio version only, make sure that you download, follow and leave a five star review for us and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod.


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[Assistant] Brincinator and Breach of Palooza. What a day. What a day.


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[Assistant] No way. So at what point do Jets fans start to panic?


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[Assistant] And I know we were talking about this pre-show a little bit, uh, and Brinson, you had said that you think that maybe the news is gonna drop on the Pat McAfee show. Is that what Rogers is waiting for? Which to me is just a jerk move.


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[Assistant] No idea when it's gonna happen. Alright, so let's, let's talk some winners and losers, uhm, of the first day of free agency. I guess starting with the winners, I mean the bears.


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[Assistant] Probably had one of the biggest wins. They had the number one overall traded.


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[Assistant] For DJ Moore, uhm, they also got the number, what, the 9th pick overall and the 61th pick overall plus first rounder in 2024 and 2025 second rounder. How are you guys feeling about the Bears? Bears fans must be pretty stoked.


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[Assistant] I would agree with you and it's so fun, interesting that you bring up Mike and McGlinchey because I also think they're kind of a winner in this. They were a front runner.


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[Assistant] But he signed with the Broncos a five year, 87 and a half million dollar deal with 50 million guaranteed as a, uh, as the resident 49ers fan here. I will say he is grossly.


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[Assistant] Overpaid with the Broncos. How do you guys feel about the Broncos? Are they a winner with this deal and just in general and free agency so far on the first day and 50 million guaranteed from a glinchy. I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] Well Dom in the chat says Broncos are trying to trade Sutton, Judy or KJ. Do you think maybe he goes after Michael Thomas from New Orleans?


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[Assistant] To me that says maybe you're gonna run the ball more because he's much better as a run blocker than he is as a pass blocker, so we'll have to see what we get with that next year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, how do you guys feel about Edmund going to the Bears? That's from Jair.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, it was a very sad day for me in the Mox household, and I'm sure you can guess why. Jimmy Garoppolo signed a three-year deal. $72.75 million. $24.25 million in year one.


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[Assistant] Guaranteed. I think it's a win for the Raiders, and it's also a win for the 49ers. Obviously we-


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[Assistant] At this point, people think that my fandom for Jimmy Garoppolo


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[Assistant] Yeah, people in the chat aren't thinking that from Carr to Jimmy G, it's not much of an upgrade. I would disagree there, but of course I am a big Jimmy Garoppolo fan. How do you guys feel about this? Is it a win for the Raiders?


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[Assistant] Totally different, totally different. Alright, we're going to take a quick break here, but before we do,


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pick Six Podcast. I'm Katie Mox. Joined here with Will Brinson and John Breach. Don't forget to follow us on social at Pick Six Pods across all social media platforms, also cbsports.com. We are live there as well.


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[Assistant] Alright, we talked about some of the winners and I do still think that there are some more winners in there like, you know, the 49ers. So we got someone pretty big from the Eagles. Sorry about it over there, Billy. Uh, but speaking of the Eagles, would y'all say that they were a winner?


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[Assistant] Or a loser in this. You got Jason Kelsey that announced that he intends to return. I would say that that is a win and something that


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[Assistant] Hackers fans made me wish happened for them.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but then they lost someone pretty big to the 49ers. What do you guys think?


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[Assistant] Let's, let's see if the, uhm, Bengals guy can trust the process or feel a little bit better about what's going on in, uh, Cincy Breach.


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[Assistant] Speaking of people that didn't win the day, the Chargers did not sign anyone yet. And their star running back is asking for a trade. Not a great day. I saw that you tweeted Brinson basically that Chargers are going to charger. Is that what happened here?


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[Assistant] Uh, so where would you guys like to see Eckler? We got Sim in the chat saying that he would like them to go to the Bills. Uh, we got Dom saying the Eagles. If Eckler does not stay with the Chargers, which by the way, he does not want to be.


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[Assistant] Uh, where do you think? Also, I see going to the Chiefs, you would fit perfectly on the Chiefs as an upgrade to McKinnon and splitting with the Chaco. That would be, I mean, that would, that would just be the rich getting richer.


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[Assistant] On that note, we are going to take a quick break. You're watching the Pick Six Podcast. We're talking some underrated moves when we get back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pick 6 podcast. I'm your host Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and John Breach. This is day one of the 2023 free agency show, so make sure that you join us all week.


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[Assistant] Long uh, and we will keep you up to date with all the free agent signings. Remember to like, comment, subscribe on the YouTube page.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, let's talk some underrated picks. Patrick Peterson to the Steelers.


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[Assistant] Definitely Brian McAdden is happy about this as well as a former Steeler himself, two-time Super Bowl champion.


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[Assistant] That is true. That is very true. Okay, uh, what about the 49ers? They reached an agreement with a one-year deal with, uh, Panthers quarterback, former Panthers quarterback Sam Darnold. Look, I didn't want it to be Matt Ryan. We were talking about it last week. Sam Darnold is the backup. I mean, sure.


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[Assistant] Sure. I think it's better than Matt Ryan. It's better than a Carson Wentz. I'll take Sam Darnold.


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[Assistant] Well, but also, yeah, I mean, Sam Donald's not a real panther. He was just there for, you know, what, one season?


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[Assistant] Well, it's not, Christian McCaffrey coming, you know, he was there for a long time. He was one of their franchise guys. It's, it's, I wouldn't, I would associate Sam Darnall more with the Jets than I would with the Panthers in terms of just, you know, when I think about him. Okay. Let's talk about the Titans here. Uh, Andre Dillard agreed to a three year with the Titans, $29 million contract. It's a lot of money.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Josh in the chat said they're playing for a 2024 number one draft pick. What do you think it feels like to be Derek Henry right now?


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[Assistant] Alright guys, well anything else that you would like to discuss on day one?


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[Assistant] Ended up coming back and winning the Super Bowl. So yeaah, don't, don't poke the bear, which is Andy Reid and, uh, Patrick Mahomes, cause they're always gonna.


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[Assistant] It was a pretty funny little moment, yeaah, and, uh, the bear had, uh, a fun little bit about what was, uh, what was he talking about, the people from Avatar? He thought that those were real people, but...


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[Assistant] There, make sure you join us tomorrow at 7.30 PM for more NFL free agency coverage. And remember to like comment and subscribe on our YouTube page. And for anyone listening to audio only, make sure that you download, follow and leave a five star review. Not one, not two, not three, not four, but five.


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[Assistant] Star review and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. We'll see you tomorrow.


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[Assistant] Cliff Kingsbury is 100% like already on a flight to Mexico. He does, he's probably checked out. I'm fine. You guys have your black money podcast, but I'm out of here.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the hardest. I know, Brenton, you said we're talking about coaches losing their jobs, but these guys... Right, exactly. Most of them have fully guaranteed contracts, so you don't have to feel overly sorry.


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[Assistant] When we had this kind of conversation earlier, I'll just give the, the concise version of what I said. It's just that this is one of the toughest jobs to accept because you don't know


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[Assistant] What there is going forward if you're an offensive minded coach.


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[Assistant] You can't bring in your own quarterback because you have a franchise quarterback on our contract, but he's not going to be available till week three or week four or week five, but we do, it's almost certain he's not going to be available at the beginning of the season. So you're already kind of behind the eight ball because you don't have your own starting quarterback. And so it just feels like.


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[Assistant] This doesn't seem like an enticing job because of that. So, uh, I think the Cardinals are in a tough situation here. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] I mean, and that's what it boils down to because if you think that he's gonna magically make Kyler Murray into a superstar top three quarterback, uh, as Wilson said, Spielman said, that is what you do. So just how much do you trust that? But if you make that move and he doesn't flip things around, then you've just set your organization back a decade.


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[Assistant] Well, then, I'm the Saints General Manager, I say thanks for calling. Ching, hang up on you, and good night, sir.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the one thing you're going to be thinking about if you're the Bidwells is you watch a team like Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] And you see what a disaster Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence were together and that you flip around, get a good coach in there and boom, now you're winning the division, you're in the playoffs. And so that's what can happen and that's why you might be willing to give up the third overall pick if you think that kind of transformation can happen overnight.


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[Assistant] Uh, but it's, it would be a lot to give up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, that's absolutely true, but you know, it's not like the NFC West is absolutely loaded right now. It's the 49ers and second place feels very reachable, uh, if you have a smart offseason and you're the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] What if, cause you just said that Wilson, what if?


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[Assistant] The Saints call up, they're like, hey Cardinals, how about we trade Kyler Murray for Sean Payton?


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[Assistant] It's the equivalent of the unconscious, uncoupling. What does that mean?


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[Assistant] One eight is one word. Brandon, this is a five second exercise. Yes or no?


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[Assistant] You know, and we talked about band shows a little bit earlier, just that I think that would be a bad hire, just in the sense of if you are cleaning house and you are getting rid of Cliff Kingsbury and you are getting rid of Steve Kime, I am not promoting from within. I am bringing in fresh blood.


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[Assistant] Uh, to coach the team. So I am just saying, I'm telling the coaching staff, look, we love you all, but you're gone. We're going to hire a coach and let them bring in someone else.


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[Assistant] Right, he did, but he did that with a new team, Fresh Blood, you know, like, got out of the... But he was on the staff. Maybe the Cardinals are the problem and not the coach. There you go.


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[Assistant] I just feel like as the Texans, you're in an easier division, an easier way to build a winner.


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[Assistant] And, and Lovey Smith, remember that hire came out of nowhere, Brinson. You mentioned the Josh McCown thing. They had interviewed Brian Flores twice and it sounded like it was going to be one of those two guys.


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[Assistant] But then they kind of got shamed out of hiring Josh McCown because, A, you can't hire somebody who doesn't have any coaching experience, even though, uh, uh, Jeff Saturday and Jim Mercer proved that is not correct and you can do it if you really want to. And now Cal McNair is going to use that as his excuse to hire Josh McCown. But.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, that Lovey Smith, it was just BAM. One day it was like, Oh, Lovey Smith is the Texas head coach. Where'd that come from? And so I don't think that either coach took that job thinking they were going to last very long. I mean, it's one of those things you were set up to fail except you got paid $7 million to fail.


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[Assistant] Uh, so you're like, alright, I'll suck it up. Uh, yeaah, so I kind of agree with Ryan there. It's just, this is more that the organization


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[Assistant] Uh, my answer was I would definitely talk to Kyle Murray. I would keep him looped in, but I would not let him have, uh, actual any say in who the coach is. Do you know, who, are there Call of Duty characters?


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[Assistant] Well, it's just like, if Kyle Murray's not gonna be on the field for the first few weeks of the season, and then what if his injury lingers and he can't, I mean, look at Odell Beckham, he got, he tore his ACL in February, didn't play a single down this year, didn't sign with anyone, these injuries can last, you don't know when they're gonna be back, you have this range, maybe it's 8 months, maybe it's 10 months.


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[Assistant] You don't know, and so, you know, you're letting this quarterback have say, even though they might not be there.


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[Assistant] But, well, and the other part is that, remember before all the Sean Watson stuff got crazy that he wanted some say in who the Texans were going to hire during one of those cycles and Texans didn't listen to him and that was kind of the beginning of the end, uh,


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[Assistant] And everything, I mean everything was going downhill and then it just, it was like, uh, your honor.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if I'm Sean Payne and I'm choosing between those two jobs, I'm taking my, uh, black permanent marker. I am scratching out the colts, because I am not going to Indianapolis.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then I am thinking and giving a long hard thought between Carolina and Denver. Cause again, if Tom Brady leaves Tampa Bay, which seems like it's going to happen. I feel like the Panthers are the most talented team.


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[Assistant] In the NFC South, but they don't have a quarterback.


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[Assistant] I didn't say the best choice. I would say it would be 1A Denver, 1B Carolina. I just said those are the two I would consider against. I would eliminate Indianapolis. And you're going to have to go with the number nine pick. But real quick, as uh, Will McLean pointed out in the chat that is it, how likely would the Saints be to make an inter-divisional trade and send Sean Payton to a division rival? For number nine, would you do it, Breach?


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[Assistant] Uh, if I thought Sean Payton could win a Super Bowl for me, yes.


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[Assistant] I'm probably going to steal your answer. I'm going to say the bingles, aren't we?


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[Assistant] Down the stretch, I mean, nobody, uh, you know, this is not going to be an easy game to pick whether you're picking the Cowboys or the Buccaneers, but if you do pick Dallas, you cannot feel comfortable.


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[Assistant] With them. I mean, this is a team that barely beat the Houston Texans. That is kind of when they're, I mean, really, their, their run of just not looking good started with that 54-19 win against the Colts, which sounds absurd, but that game was 21-19 in the fourth quarter before, you know,


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[Assistant] Uh, maybe Sean Payton will uh, trade a third round pick away for Cartner Minchoo. We'll see. But yeaah, so the Cowas are just falling apart down the stretch, and it feels like if they lose on Monday night, I would not be surprised at all if uh, Jerry Jones' handoff peak slips at some point next week.


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[Assistant] Yes. And Jared Jones being almost 80 adds to it because he wants to win a Super Bowl before he dies. That guy is going to do whatever it takes to win a Super Bowl as soon as possible.


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[Assistant] 35-24. Time for the league leading interceptions and fun fact became the first quarterback in NFL history to miss at least five games and still lead the NFL in interceptions.


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[Assistant] Well that's why I asked you, is he a franchise quarterback for Sean Payton? But it all happened since he injured his thumb. And remember Russell Wilson had surgery on his thumb and then struggled.


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[Assistant] No, I think it's at minus one now. Jack, charge this paper by one.


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[Assistant] For instance, the official fact checker of this podcast.


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[Assistant] I think Harbaugh is an interesting option. I love Harbaugh.


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[Assistant] And that's, I mean, that's what they did is, is Harbaugh took over for a four downer team that went six and 10.


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[Assistant] In 2010 and then boom, they go to three straight NFC title games after that. So he's already proven he can turn a team around. He's never had a losing season as a head coach. Uh, and I would say going to three straight NFC championships is a pretty strong thing to have on your resume.


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[Assistant] I just couldn't, I couldn't decarb on coexisting with Kyler Murray.


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[Assistant] I'm just going to, I think the Panthers defense is their strong suit right now. So I'm going to bring someone in and become one of those teams that can just let your defense get you to the playoffs and then hire a smart offensive coordinator who hopefully can figure something out at the quarterback situation.


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[Assistant] I mean yea, the Cardinals have Kyle, or at least you have a franchise quarterback kind of building around. And the Colts have Jim Erce. Yea, well yea.


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[Assistant] Yeah, are we all three on Sean? I think Sean's getting from Denver.


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[Assistant] Yes. The only thing that blows my mind about the Texans is that they are literally in arguably the worst division in football. And they still, if only managed to win 10 games over the past three years.


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[Assistant] Oh my god. We've already talked about the Cardinals so much and I agree. We are all unanimous. I don't, I, are we gonna be unanimous all the way through? This is gonna be the first time ever.


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[Assistant] I have the Broncos at one. I do too. I just think the Broncos got hammered by injuries. And if you have a quarterback who just improves Russell Wilson by 50% doesn't have to be by a hundred percent that you're going to win.


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[Assistant] A lot more games. I mean the defense is absolutely a playoff caliber defense, so it's just a matter of getting the offense back on track. And...


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[Assistant] You know, you win five games with an offense that was absolutely crap-tastic, so, uh, just, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Sure. I'll go first. I'll go with the first game on the slate.


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[Assistant] It's obviously the 49ers against the Seahawks. I'll go Christian McCaffrey goes over 200 yards from scrimmage.


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[Assistant] They stink against the run. He's obviously super involved in the passing game.


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[Assistant] I think that this one, he has a monster, monster showing. And what is really his first legit run at a Super Bowl?


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[Assistant] Well, I'll tell you this, Christian McCaffrey did it back in week 17 against the Raiders. 121 yards rushing against the Raiders and then 72 yards receiving.


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[Assistant] Give your first whole prediction grade. I will grade it an A-. I'll give you an A-.


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[Assistant] I think, I'm with Breach, it, you know, yes, she's a rookie quarterback, so we're expecting some of this, but if we're talking about like, all time, it's going to be on YouTube forever type of interceptions, alright, little bit bolder, so I'll give it a C+.


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[Assistant] Alright, well I'll give Wilson, I'll give, uh, Brinson the A-minus. You're fine, so you're fitting right in. I'll give you the A-minus.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'll give you an A on that one. I mean, I feel like if you were putting odds on that, what, it would be like 22 to 1 or something like that. I mean, that's pretty significant. Nox outpacing Tyree Kill.


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[Assistant] Alright, I will go with the Miami Dolphins. It's kind of on the same lines, I guess, of what you guys are talking about. We'll score in the single digits for the first time this season.


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[Assistant] And the Buffalo Bills just if you are curious, they have held opponents two single digits twice this season. We're talking about the quarterbacks. I mean, it could be Mike Glenn and I don't think he's going to throw for two touchdowns. I think he's going to maybe.


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[Assistant] I'll go with Daniel Jones dominates this Viking secondary to the tune of over 400 yards passing.


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[Assistant] In the win, in the upset. I think that the Vikings a I think that they are fool not that good and Daniel d before. I mean he's throw yards. The last time he d


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[Assistant] You're inside. This is, this is where he goes off.


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[Assistant] I'll give it an A, because I do think, you know, we're talking about it being in the realm of reality. Giants highest blitz rate in the NFL this season. You have Dexter Lawrence, 28 quarterback hits this season. Most by a player, 340, 340 pounds or more since they first started tracking this, our CBS Sports Research team, in 2006.


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[Assistant] I'll go B+, because it's kind of a little bit of how I'm looking at mine.


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[Assistant] I gave him a, what did I just give you? A B+, A-, something along those lines?


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[Assistant] Wow, I really just kick and breach down with the Bengals here, but it's, I'm sure he'll like this one because I do think that the Bengals blow out the Ravens and more so my prediction is what's going to happen post game. We are going to get a very murky situation about Lamar Jackson and his future in Baltimore that's going to make us all believe that he's played his last game for the Ravens.


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[Assistant] I'll give an A- to him if he plays. Doesn't play particularly well, a little sloppy, and then there's some frustrations in the post game that make you think that he's done in Baltimore.


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[Assistant] The further you talk, the grade goes down. You take what you like and leave.


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[Assistant] I'm giving that an A. That's a good one. I mean, I guess B plus is still good, but I'll give you an A.


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[Assistant] He threw four touchdowns against your Steelers and then just a few weeks ago against the Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] Oh, goodness gracious, silly. I give that a B+. I mean, it's somewhat based in, it's based in reality, but the specific time of it, I think, is really good.


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[Assistant] I'll go, it's kind of what Ryan was alluding to.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say that the cowboys roll against the buccaneers. It's not, cause I think everybody and their mother is gonna pick the buccaneers to just upset the cowboys because the cowboys just stink.


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[Assistant] But I think that the Cowboys roll in this game. They already got their stinker out of the way last week against the Commanders. This is where you're like, oh, all right, here we go. Although every Cowboys fan and their mother is going to start talking about them winning the Super Bowl again and all of that.


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[Assistant] Did you guys ever have those side projects in school where you would get like 10 points on your next quiz if you did this side thing? That's basically what Brinson just did, he just handed in like 10 of them to bring his grade up.


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[Assistant] I think I gave you a B+. That's good. It contracts mine a little bit, but I'll go with yours.


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[Assistant] I saw you staring at that Fred Warner jersey out there. I knew what you wanted. Give me Max Crosby. Alright. And give me Jaylen Ramsey.


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[Assistant] I think that's the issue. I think that you are all in on this because it's funny.


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[Assistant] What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Big Six Podcast, CBS Sports Daily Info Podcast. I'm Will Brinson and I'm your host, back for not just the first, but the technically third Daily Show and eventually fourth Daily Podcast of December 26th. Daily, my butt.


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[Assistant] Uh, this is a press coverage show. We break down one topic in depth. Do you want me to do so? Tyler Sullivan. Hey, what's up, buddy? How we doing?


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[Assistant] We are going to talk about Tua talking about Loa because, well, it looks like the Dolphins are probably going to make the playoffs anyway. I believe, um, F38 has their playoff odds like well north of, yeah, 65% probably going to make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] A loss to New England would push them down to 51 or 50%, excuse me, 51% maybe, and loss to the Jets would eliminate them. Whereas, uh, yeah, if they win their next two, they're, they're just in.


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[Assistant] We got to get some help from, from other people, but they're like an 80% chance of getting in.


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[Assistant] And they're here because they're in this spot because they've lost four in a row, three of those on the road at San Francisco, at the Chargers, at Buffalo, just a brutal stretch, uh, and then lost 2620 at home to Green Bay on Christmas Day, with two of them going


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[Assistant] 16 to 25 for 310 yards, a pick in, excuse me, a touchdown in three picks over his last four games over that losing stretch.


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[Assistant] He's completing 50, less than 53% of his passes, averaging 246 yards per game.


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[Assistant] And 1.5, 6 touchdowns and 5 interceptions in that span.


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[Assistant] Suffice to say Tua has not been good and you look at the numbers in the second half team didn't score a single point.


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[Assistant] With seven to 13, this is on Christmas day, seven to 13, 81 yards, zero touchdowns, three interceptions, a 33.3 pass or rating. I mean.


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[Assistant] How much of the blame for the Dolphins four game losing streak did we assign to Tua?


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[Assistant] Yeah. And I mean, it's, it's interesting because coming into the season, Tua was very much under, I mean, under heavy scrutiny as to whether or not he would be the quarterback of the future because, you know, we had had the, the two years of Brian Flores.


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[Assistant] You know, yanked in and out of the starting lineup often for Ryan Fitzpatrick. Oftentimes then you have, you know, might be Daniel is hired. He calls two on the plane when he's, when he's going to take the job and it's like, we are going to make.


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[Assistant] You know, it was a cool moment. You get a little skeptical about it, but then it actually, you know, it does, uh, it does work and they're both playing really well too. It was before this losing streak.


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[Assistant] Five to one to win the MVP. He was one of the top like three or four candidates in the entire league. And it looked like this was a team that was maybe going to win the, they were first place in the division when this losing streak started. And now they are, you know, kind of clinging to their playoff lives after losing to the Packers.


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[Assistant] What do we think about the long-term ramifications of this? Two of them would be eligible for a contract after this all season. It's impossible to imagine them giving him a huge contract.


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[Assistant] Mainly because, you know, I don't see Tua taking some kind of Derek Carr slash Andy Dalton, you know, half measure contract. I mean, you're, you don't do that at that age. And when you're a top, you know, top 10 pick, but.


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[Assistant] You can't give him $40 million a year after what we've seen down the stretch here, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, maybe. I mean, although the problem is, like, if you have an agent...


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[Assistant] You know, most people do except for like 2 Kirby Berset and Lamar Jackson. That agent doesn't even gonna be like, you know, he, it makes him look bad. It's tougher. It's tougher. And I don't even know who to his agent is actually. Um, but it's tough. It's a, it's almost impossible to, oh, it's Lee Steinberg. Yeah. I mean, yeah, this is a guy who reps Patrick Mahal. So you're not going to see, I forgot that. I didn't know that actually. Um,


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[Assistant] You know, you're not going to see them take the, the Steinberg agency is not going to take the, the Cabot, the Cabot brothers or, or Chris Cabot, I guess is, is perhaps the, uh, maybe the guy who's, who's primarily working that negotiation, but you know, you're not going to see.


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[Assistant] The, um, the agents take less than maximum dollars because then it, then it's because it's really tough to recruit guys coming out of college and say, Hey, you should work for us. And they're like, well, you, you


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[Assistant] Like you gave to a, you got two of this like mid-range deal. Like I don't want to get mid-range deals. I want to get top tier deals. You're willing to take less than the maximum. So that's where it becomes really tricky with the tour stuff. I would think.


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[Assistant] So we had a comment pop out that was like to a franchise tag candidate. I would think what we'll see is this offseason two against they pick up his fifth year option. Like he's been good enough to justify that. You know, we didn't get issues with like, I mean, even hell Sam Darnold got his fifth year option picked up by the Panthers after he got traded from the Jets wildly unnecessarily.


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[Assistant] Baker Mayfield up and down, you know, career got his fifth year option picked up somehow played for the Panthers and the Rams on that fifth year option and the Browns.