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[Assistant] Well, I don't mean to do that. As I've told you before, maybe I have to start looking at lines. I sat down last night and really went through these games.


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[Assistant] And I, I'm hoping to put up, I didn't know I was even as bad as 4-11, I just knew I was bad last week. So, I'm gonna be disappointed if I'm like, with another horrible record here this week, uh, because I put some, some time and thought into this yesterday afternoon and last night.


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[Assistant] Well, I, I, I, I won't lie that I'm a little bit where I just kind of look at the games and have a good feel of, oh, I think this team's going to win. And then I just throw down a score. Like last night, I looked at like some stats and things like that, where I went through offensively, defensively teams they've played already.


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[Assistant] Things that kinda just jumped out to me, so I'm hoping that makes me better here, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, yeah, you could. I try not to do that stuff though. I try to stay true to it and not let like bias or oh, I really like this team or oh man, I love this quarterback. I hope, I hope he can win. I try to take all of that out of it. I do my best always to just make a rash decision.


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[Assistant] Anyway, it is. No, but you're right. It is. That's the, that's the difficult thing. And then I'm even worse too, just to go off of that. Cause I'm so in the weeds with my, you know,


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[Assistant] Watching film and X's and O's. Sometimes I overthink things and I get into matchups where then I watch Sunday and I go, why did I really think that matchup was going to dictate the football game? How come I just didn't pick this team with this quarterback and say he's better than the other team with their quarterback? So sometimes it is that simple. All right.


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[Assistant] Talk about a not great game. Uh, Arizona Cardinals at the Cincinnati Bengals. Okay, the winless games, uh, winless teams here. Oh, three and one versus oh and four Bengals favored by three at home. Mike, 47 and a half. Um,


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[Assistant] I'm picking the Cardinals to win this game, okay? I don't know why. I wouldn't bet on this game or anything. I just look at the, the, uh, I'm really putting my faith here in Cliff Kingsbury.


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[Assistant] And Kyler Murray, that they'll make a few more plays against the Cincinnati Bengals team that had a short week that's just not very good. Uh, does not have a lot of offensive creativity. Their offensive line stinks. I have a lot of issues with the Bengals and I have no other answer here other than I'm just going with


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[Assistant] Uh, Kyler Murray to make a few plays and I think Arizona is gonna play them tough on the road. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that there's a lot of X's and O's into my decision with this one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I mean- So I like the Bengals. Yeah, okay. What kind of score are you picking? Like, what would you take? Because I'm going Cardinals 27-24.


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[Assistant] I got 2117 bangles, which means I like the bangles straight up and against the spread. Okay, 2117 bangles. Yeah, I don't trust either one of these. I'm really just taking...


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[Assistant] Uh, I think two guys that I think got bigger balls than two other guys. That's what I went down to. I think Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray's balls are bigger than Andy Dalton and Zach Taylor. That's where basically where I'm going with it.


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[Assistant] And I'd rather go down with a loss picking those two than the other two right now who showed like, Oh, we're getting dominated at Pittsburgh. No big deal. We'll never get mad. We'll just sit here and continue to walk up and down the field and just act like


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[Assistant] Oh, we're trying to act like, I don't know. They have no emotion in Cincinnati. I just can't get behind it. So that's really the only reason.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, okay. Alright, I hear ya, I hear ya. Uhm, alright, let's move on to the next one, cause I don't really feel like talking about that one anymore. Alright, Falcons at Texans, okay.


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[Assistant] Both teams coming off losses. Texans favored by five. Over, over under at 49. Falcons are in desperation zone here. They're one and three. Texans of course are two and two. Uh, you lead it off, Mike. Tell me what you got.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay. I see the game very similar to you. I think this is the big thing. Uhm, the Texans pass defense is not very good. That does scare me.


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[Assistant] I mean, you talked about it. I mean, Atlanta, they got high price talent and they got some offensive explosion that way as far as throwing the football.


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[Assistant] Texans pass defense stinks, okay? Uh, Atlanta has moved the ball in just about every game, even last week, moved the ball, but they can't convert third and ones. They can't convert fourth and ones. You know, it's a miss field goal. It's dumb interceptions in the red zone. It's all of those things. Now Atlanta on offense can't run the ball either.


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[Assistant] So that'll allow the Texans to say, ooh, okay, we're not very good at pass. We can err on let's help our pass defense out a little bit. Okay. Now the flip side to me.


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[Assistant] The Houston Texans offense at base level is unimaginative, very basic. You talked about, yea, DeAndre Hopkins not really getting going. That pass game in general does not get going. It's too predictable.


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[Assistant] Uh, so that's the first issue, let alone having some offensive line issues.


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[Assistant] Uhm, they're, they're a good defense. I mean, when you look at the Atlanta Falcons, they're number nine in football right now as far as total defense is concerned. And I was a little surprised by that.


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[Assistant] Their big thing is when you get close, I feel like they let team score touchdowns. They don't hold teams to field goal. That's scoring defense that bothers me with them. It's scoring offense that bothers me with them. They're great at going from the 20 to the next 20.


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[Assistant] But will they actually get in the end zone is really the big question. And because of that and because it's at home and because the Falcons don't do a lot on defense and they kind of just go, this is what we do. Here it is.


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[Assistant] I think that'll help out a Texans offense that's unimaginative. They don't need to have great imagination against this team this week. I think the Texans win a really close one here. I'm going to say 21-20. Uh, I don't trust either team, but I think you're going to get a last ditch total desperation effort from the Atlanta Falcons.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I gotcha. Now here's a good one. Buccaneers at Saints, Saints at Home, favored by three, okay? Over, under, forty-six and a half, alright? I'm just gonna lead this one off, Mike, okay? If you don't mind. Uhm,


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[Assistant] The one thing, okay, that that really is phenomenal about the Saints and what I saw last week, Mike on film. Okay, the Saints, their defensive line is phenomenal. First off, you're not going to run the ball between the tackles and the Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] Played some coverages and did some things on the defensive side versus the Dallas Cowboys that were really encouraging to me.


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[Assistant] A lot of zones, game plan specific type zones to take this and that away.


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[Assistant] I really liked it. I've been worried about the Saints because they're a little too aggressive and play too much man to man.


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[Assistant] On the defensive side of the ball. So that's a good thing. Now, the thing is there just as far as the Saints defense, which I like the Bucks have a good old line and of course have a lot of creative ways, whether it's man or zone to throw the football.


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[Assistant] So I like that aspect of it. All right. So there, I, I do think the Bucks are going to be able to move the ball a little bit on this Saints defense.


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[Assistant] Now the other side, I'm just gonna say, uhm, the Buccaneers, that front four is phenomenal. They can cause a lot of havoc.


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[Assistant] The New Orleans Saints offensive line is still one of the better units in all of football.


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[Assistant] And on the back end there in Tampa, I don't trust their secondary. They let up a lot of big plays. They take too many chances on that side of the ball. Uh, and because of that, I think this is a really exciting game, Mike, but I'm going to go Saints winning this 24 21, a late field goal, something like that that gives them the victory. And as I can see now, that is a push.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that it is incredible. But as we know, and as I keep trying to tell everybody, it's not all about the quarterback. The team matters. The coach matters. And then when you have a coach who goes, Oh, we're missing something at the quarterback position.


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[Assistant] He goes, Oh, well, let me play to other strengths on my football team. And he's done that Sean Payton really well. And that's why he is one of the great coaches in football. All right. We got the Pat Shermer ball, baby. It's Mike Florio and Kirk cousins, Minnesota Vikings.


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[Assistant] Going to the New York Giants to play Pat Shermer.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's not prime time, so you're good there with Kirk Cousins, okay? Uhm, here we got Vikings at Giants. Vikings favored by five and a half. Over, under at 43 and a half. I'll let you lead this off since you're a huge Vikings fan and this is your squad and you bleed purple. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] Wow, okay, there you go. Alright, so twenty- what'd you say? What was yours? Twenty-three what?


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[Assistant] 23-13, lots of fuel goals in this game. Lots of fuel goals in this game. Alright, I think this game's gonna be a little closer than that. I do.


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[Assistant] Uhm, okay, first off, since Daniel Jones has taken over, I mean, as we can see,


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[Assistant] There's a much, there's an improvement to the offense. There's no doubt. I mean.


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[Assistant] Running the ball more effectively, throwing the ball down the field for big plays more effectively.


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[Assistant] And that is the Daniel Jones factor, let alone Pat Shermer is really good as far as


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[Assistant] One of the best units in all of football. I mean, they really are. The Minnesota Vikings defense played, played good last week. You know, just the offense has to help it out a little bit. I mean, that was a disaster last week on that side of the ball. I think the big thing ultimately though,


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[Assistant] Is the Giants past defense stinking so much. Okay. And the fact that like you said, the Vikings can run the ball. I think the Giants are going to be very scared of that running attack and Dalvin Cook. And I just think it's going to leave them a little bit more vulnerable on the back end because of that this week.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I think that cousins and digs and stealing and just the scrutiny around the Vikings will lend them to.


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[Assistant] Maybe open up the offense in the pass game a little bit. Maybe they're gonna finally realize the criticism and that they gotta look in the mirror themselves as offensive play callers and play designers. They need to do a little more on that side of the ball as well. I'm not trying to make excuses for Kirk Cousins. He certainly could have played better, but I think the Vikings win this football game.


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[Assistant] But I think this is close. I'm going 20 to 17 Vikings. Alright, I just think that Pat Shermer.


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[Assistant] You know, he saw this defense in practice on a daily basis. I think he'll have a few creative ways to attack Mike Zimmer that'll just keep the game closer in general. But I still think the Vikings pull it out because they're, they're the better football team. I'm going 2017 Vikings.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it might be because, well, at the very least, as long as they stay with that running game, Mike, I mean, it's going to make the Giants have to play that. And as we know, I mean, Janoris Jenkins had a good game last week, but come on, that was the Redskins without Terry McLaurin.


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[Assistant] And a Dwayne Haskins who was not good and a Case Keenum who was also not good. That's why he got bench. So yeah, I'm interested. It's actually kind of the one of the under the radar. It's not the sexiest game and football this weekend, but I will be tuned into that. Okay.


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[Assistant] We're going over to London. You sound like you're from London. Okay, we're going to Big Ben.


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[Assistant] What's his name? And forgetting Sarah Marshall, the main actor who's crazy.


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[Assistant] The comedian? Russell Brand? Russell Brand, right? There's a movie where he's a big rock star and the-


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[Assistant] Bears, Raiders, John Gruden, Khalil Mack, I think they should have to fight at midfield before the game, I would love to see that actually. Oh god, no, no, cause then they can just


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[Assistant] You're right, keep him as a midfield emblem while he's over there, because Khalil Mack implanted him in the ground. Alright, Bears favored at by 5, over, under at 40 and a half. Michael, go ahead, why don't you lead it off.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I worry about the Raiders offense versus that Bears defense. I do. You know, Jon Gruden, there's only so much you can scheme, and that's what he did last week, especially early on.


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[Assistant] In that game against the Colts. They jumped out to a 14-0 lead because of John Gruden and his ability to put, you know, some good plays together to start a game.


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[Assistant] And that's scary against the Bears, too, when they don't have to worry about anything behind them, and they can play that style of football. Uh, they are tough to beat. They're tough to beat even if you have a great offense. So that worries me. And then on the other side of the ball,


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[Assistant] You know, the Raiders, the one thing I'll give John Gruden and the Raiders, they might not be real talented on the defensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Uh, but they, they play hard. They're pretty physical.


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[Assistant] They definitely were better at stopping the run last week in Indianapolis than I expected of them to be against the great blue wall of the Indianapolis Colts. Uh, so that was, that was, you know, intriguing and the Bears offense is certainly nothing to write home about. But I think the Bears offense and Matt Nagy will be better this week because really, you know, I've been a staunch defender of Mitchell Trubisky. I just, uh,


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[Assistant] I'm not sure when they're not going to be better with Chase Daniel. The way Mitchell Trubisky has looked early on this year has just been ugly. There's nothing else I can really say to it.


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[Assistant] And maybe Matt Nagy finally get able to run his full scope of plays and offense, and Chase Daniels can have a better showing than what he did last year. I go Bears winning 20 to 13, and I'm with you. I'm not so sure it might not be 27-10, 24-10, something like that, but I gave the Raiders a fighting chance, Bears winning by seven.


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[Assistant] Cool. Alright, here we go. Jets, Eagles. Alright, Jets coming off the bye. Alright, uhm, going to Philadelphia. Eagles have the long week to prepare too because they played on Thursday night. They are favored by 13 and a half points. The over-unders at 43 and a half. What do you think, Michael?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go, uh, Eagles as well, of course. I'm gonna go Eagles 27 to 20, okay? I'm picking it a little closer. I'm, I'm, I'm...


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say Sam Darnold plays. Okay, I think they're desperate, he realizes they're desperate, and if he's anywhere close to being able to go, I think he goes this week for the Jets. The Jets- But here's the thing, here's the thing, the guys


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[Assistant] That could be a very real possibility. Uh, I wouldn't bet on this game. Uh, I definitely wouldn't. This is just what scares me. Eagles are clearly the better team. We know that. You hit all the reasons. There's no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] The Jets have been a disaster, okay? They had a bye week, so I think Adam Gase is gonna have a few tricks up his sleeve as far as just creative things to do against this Eagles defense. And the biggest reason


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[Assistant] That, I think that, that maybe the, the Jets can score a few points more than, than, you know, maybe I would normally expect. The Eagles secondaries beat the shit. And that just scares me. I mean, when you're signing Orlando Skandrick, who has been like burnt more than toast over the last two years with the teams he's been on,


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[Assistant] Uh, that just tells you the state of their secondary and with no Avanti Maddox and Sydney Jones bothered by injuries and Ronald Darby still not being there. I just worry about that aspect where I think


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[Assistant] You need to be more certain in your convictions. Okay, well, I'm still, I'm going Eagles winning the game, but yes, I guess I'm, I think the Jets will cover the spread.


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[Assistant] Uh, here we go. Ravens, Steelers. I'm excited for this, especially with the way the Steelers played the other night and this new formula on offense. I mean, they're basically took like the Baltimore Ravens formula almost to a, to a, to a degree a little bit.


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[Assistant] Ravens going to Pittsburgh. Ravens favored by three and a half over under at 44. Uhm, what do you want to do, Mike? You want, you'll lead it off or you want me to lead it off?


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[Assistant] Okay, baby doll. I like it there. So you got the upset, uh, you got Pittsburgh winning this football game. I'm with you with this. I do think the game will be incredibly close. Okay. The one thing I worry about with the Steelers though, in general, I still worry about their defense. Okay. Their front seven.


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[Assistant] Yes, it's talented, I get that, uh, all those things are, are there to, to like.


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[Assistant] They are playing an offense in Baltimore that, that can do everything, okay? That's, you know, they can run it and throw it.


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[Assistant] And the Steelers, because of some of the creative blitzes they do and stuff, they can be gashed in the run game at times. And that scares me a little too.


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[Assistant] I mean the Steelers are letting up 122 yards a game right now rushing the football.


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[Assistant] And I don't know where that ranks, but I'll tell you real quick as I just sit here. That's 22nd in football. That's not stealer football. That scares me a little bit. Okay. And then the other thing that I look at and I go, okay, the Steelers offense versus the Ravens defense. The Ravens are not very good at past defense either.


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[Assistant] The problem is, Pittsburgh's pass offense ain't that good either. I don't think they can necessarily capitalize on some of the things.


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[Assistant] They that other teams can capitalize against the Baltimore Ravens. So that scares me a little bit.


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[Assistant] Overall, and that's why I'm going to go like the opposite of you. I think the Ravens win a close football game 20 to 17 on the road. I just think they're a little bit more complete and well rounded in the Steelers, uh, Steelers. I'm excited to see this offense, but I just can't pick them yet. I got to see one more game of it against somebody other than the Cincinnati Bengals.


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[Assistant] You have threaded the needle five times so far. Five times. I mean, I told you, maybe I should be a bookie. That's what, instead of betting on these games, maybe I should be a line setter. Cause that's really...


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[Assistant] I'm telling you, when I, when I pick these games and I look at the spread, I told Matt Casey as I was walking in here, I was like, man, I don't feel good about betting any of these. I felt like the spreads were spot on. After I picked the games, I looked at them. I said nothing like jumped out crazy to me.


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[Assistant] What's next? Alright, here we go. We got Bills Titans, okay? Buffalo Bills at the Tennessee Titans. Titans get that big win last week against the Atlanta Falcons. Bills lose a really close, good football game against the New England Patriots. Bills on the road in Tennessee. Titans favored by three. Over, under at 38 and a half.


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[Assistant] I can't imagine a lot of points being scored in this one. What say you, the Florio of Mikes?


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[Assistant] I actually thought of that, but I wasn't sure. Okay, okay, I see ya. Alright, so uhm.


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[Assistant] Points will be at a premium. I can't imagine, Tennessee's offense, you know, everyone's gonna go, oh, they, you know, Marcus Mariota was better last week. Well, we talked about the Falcons already. The Falcons, like, they don't do anything on defense, okay? Their secondary is not


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[Assistant] Great. And Tennessee, because of that, capitalized, and Marcus Marietta played phenomenal football.


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[Assistant] Uhm, now, we did see, as far as the Tennessee, I mean the uh, Tennessee Titans, you know the Titans,


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[Assistant] I like their defense. They play a little too much man to man for me, Mike. That's one thing that scares me a little about them as a football team. Uh, now they got some good corners. Don't get me wrong. I just think they dabble in man to man a hair too much.


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[Assistant] And because of that, and because the Bills played a similar type defense last week with the New England Patriots, and of course this is Vrabel and Dean Pease, who are, have New England DNA in their coaching history, I think that favors the Bills a little bit, and I still think this Bills defense.


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[Assistant] Is arguably the best in football. I mean, they're, they don't need the blitz. Their front four can do it all by themselves. Run game, pass game. They arguably have the best linebacking duo in football. They're up there in the conversation and Sean McDermott is one of the best defensive minds in the sport too.


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[Assistant] And with man to man, I think Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] Okay, he'll rebound and play it tighter this week if he plays. If not, it's Matt Barkley. I just think they'll have more man-to-man beaters in their game plan than they did last week in general. I think it's a field goal fest type of football game. I'm picking the Bills to win 15-13, like a late field goal to win the football game. Uh, but that's how I see it playing out.


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[Assistant] Yep, we will. You're right. I mean, and you, you're, you're spot on about that crap. You really are. You're pretty damn good at it. Alright, Patriots Redskins. Okay, Patriots favored by 15. They're on the road in Washington. Let's not make this long. We know we're both picking the Patriots. Do you have them covering the spread or not?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I hear you. I tend to be nice to these teams, uh, as well. And I honestly, at first, when I first picked this game,


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[Assistant] Uh, I got the pats- I had the pats like going like, uh, 31, 14, and then I was like, yeah, that's too nice.


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[Assistant] And I went 38-14. I think the Pats do win the football game.


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[Assistant] The Pats defense is amazing. This is not overly complicated offense by the Washington Redskins. The Pats will be able to play man to man and shut them down that way. Uh, they'll be able to cause pressure, whatever it may be. And then, of course, we know the Redskins defense is just not very good. They can't play man to man.


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[Assistant] Uh, high powered offense like the New England Patriots. So I'm with you all the way there. I go Patriots 38 to 14 and that one.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and yes, it does not look good down in Washington. Alright.


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[Assistant] That's it for the one o'clock games. Let's get to the four o'clock games, alright? We got the Broncos at Chargers. Uh, Chargers favored by six and a half, alright? At home, over, under, at forty-four and a half. Go ahead, Michael.


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[Assistant] I'm with you, uh, okay, so I think the Broncos are, the Chargers are going to win this football game too. 24-20. But here's some of those things that jump out to me. First off, this Broncos defense is still a good unit.


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[Assistant] Okay, they do have pride. Vic Fangio still trying to find his first win out there. So I don't think that the Chargers are just going to go up and down the field, uh, on the Denver Broncos. I'd be shocked.


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[Assistant] If the Chargers could run the ball to the same effect that the Jacksonville Jaguars did last week, I would think that's something that gets, uh, fixed in Denver this week. You know, Vic Fangio, he is still trying to find the right people. He doesn't have the personnel to play his three, four defense quite yet. So he's kind of having to reinvent himself that way.


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[Assistant] Uh, but the Broncos pass defense is still tough and we know, uh, they still have, uh, a pretty good pass rush, even though they don't have Bradley Chubb, they still got one of the best in the business in Von Miller. The only thing I'll say on the other side, just to get over this game.


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[Assistant] The Broncos played this defense last week with the Jacksonville Jaguars, right? It's the same defensive scheme.


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[Assistant] So I look at it that way and you know, I don't know, I err on the team.


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[Assistant] That got to play that scheme usually.


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[Assistant] More than the team, like the defense of the Chargers, because I think that the Broncos will come back and go, ooh, we should have done this or we should have done that. We could have done these things to, to expose that scheme.


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[Assistant] And because it's the same scheme and they're seeing it for the twi- second week in a row, I think they'll be able to do some things there and just keep it somewhat close. Chargers win 24-20.


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[Assistant] But I think the Broncos kind of are a pain in the butt in the football game and stay right there.


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[Assistant] But I do feel good about like this week of my bets of the week where I feel, I feel confident about it. And I know we'll get there in a second, but we got still three more games to go. All right. Here's the, you know, the headliner of the week. We got three really good games left to talk about. This might be the best of the bunch here.


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[Assistant] Packers at Cowboys 425 big game on Fox. You know, it'll be Buck and Troy Aikman Cowboys favored by three and a half over under at 46 and a half. Um, lead it off, Mike.


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[Assistant] Okay, I'm very close to you. I'm picking the Cowboys to cover as well, just narrowly. 28 to 24. I got the Cowboys winning the football game. Real quick.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Cowboys defense is phenomenal. It still is. I don't care that they lost last week or whatever. I mean, it's a great defense. They didn't give up a touchdown. That's what I mean. There's no weakness to that football team. And they gave the short field on the Zeke Elliott fumble and the Jason Witten fumble too. And you got to remember that too. So there's no weakness to them. And you're exactly right.


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[Assistant] No Devante Adams, that's really f***ing scary for, for Green Bay.


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[Assistant] Okay, it really is. And Green Bay's offense, you know, it's still a work in progress. That was a good matchup for them last week with the Eagles. And the Eagles, of course, having the secondary issues and things like that. And I think you just got Rogers and Devontae Adams in a hot night too. That just accentuated it a little bit more. On the other side of the ball, you know,


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[Assistant] Uh, the Cowboys offense versus the Packers defense. I like the Packers defense.


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[Assistant] What we saw on the run defense last week is a little scary. What we've seen from the run defense all year.


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[Assistant] You know, we've had moments of scary, right? Whether it be the Vikings and Dalvin Cook having a good day, that was a little scary. And of course, last week, and I do think that the Packers play a little too much man to man, Mike, and that's not good against the weaponry that the Dallas Cowboys have. I'm picking Cowboys 28-24.


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[Assistant] And I'm really only picking it to be 28-24 because of Aaron Rodgers. And I'm putting faith that he'll make some, you know, damnedest plays we've seen to keep it close, but they're really going to be outplayed as a football team in general.


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[Assistant] Yup, okay, I see the, I see the similar way you do. I think the first thing that scares me about the matchup, and I'm taking Chiefs to win 38-27, okay? The biggest thing that does scare me is the Colts defense. Colts defense is good, but it's got nothing great about it. Not a great pass rush, not a great secondary.


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[Assistant] Scheme is solid in their sound, but I don't go, oh gosh, they're going to confuse Patrick Mahomes and company and Andy Reid and they won't know what to do.


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[Assistant] I worry a little bit about the Chiefs defense. I mean, we should. We saw last week. I mean, you can move the ball on them. You can run the ball on them. And that is where it gets a little scary to me. I get scared that the big blue wall, you know, we're going to build a wall.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be the greatest wall you've ever seen. Slots. And it's gonna have a moat. And it's gonna have a moat in front of it. So then you can't even get to Quinton Nelson cause there's a moat in front of him as he's pulling. It's really tough.


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[Assistant] But either way, uh, I do worry that the Colts, with their lackluster run performance last week, will get back to it this week and want to protect their defense a little bit and run the ball a lot to try to keep that Chiefs offense off the field. The Chiefs gotta get something, Mike. I'll just say this real quick before we move on.


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[Assistant] They gotta stop something. Like last week when I watched the film against the Detroit Lions.


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[Assistant] At some point you gotta go, we're gonna, we're gonna put all our eggs into, we're gonna stop the run, or we're gonna put all our eggs into stop the pass, but you can't like not stop either one.


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[Assistant] And I do think that they got a toy with their front a little bit and maybe just play big boy football this week. Put all defensive tackles in, have three defensive tackles in and Frank Clark.


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[Assistant] To match up against that Colts team and then go, okay, we got big guys in here to stop the run and see if you can do something like that to at least slow them down. But I'm picking Chiefs 38-27. Uh, I expect them to win that game.


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[Assistant] So you got the push, you got the, almost threaded the needle, almost threaded the needle, but you went the


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[Assistant] Alright, alright, alright, here we go. This is gonna, I think this is an awesome Monday Night Football game. I mean, I'm really excited about this. Brown's at 49ers, 49ers favored by three and a half. Okay. I'll just, I'll just throw out a few things that scare me here. Just, I'll lead it off if you don't mind, Mike. Go ahead. 49ers three and oh.


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[Assistant] I do get scared a little bit about the 49ers having the bye week. Oh, we're 3-0 and you're, you know, kinda feeling good about yourself.


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[Assistant] And as we've seen before, teams off a bye week can sometimes get sloppy. Because yeaah, you had time off, you forget about techniques and things like that and, you know, you just kind of get out of battle mode until all of a sudden you get in a game again after a bye week and you're like, woah, I've been punched in the mouth five times, we're playing football today, huh?


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[Assistant] Steve Wilkes, defensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] He gave Kyle Shanahan this 49ers offense a lot of problems last year when he was with the Arizona Cardinals. In fact, these were two of his three wins last year were against the San Francisco 49ers, uh, because his defense is a pain in the butt. His scheme and what he can do to slow down the Shanahan offensive attack.


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[Assistant] Of the 49ers playing a little bit of that Seattle scheme and giving guys opportunities to throw the ball one on one outside. And I think there is a tension. I'm picking the Browns on an upset here.


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[Assistant] It hurts me to go against my friend Kyle Shanahan here. I don't feel confident in this, but it was one of those games I said, ooh, if there's going to be an upset, I'm going to pick this week. This is, I think, the one I'm going to go with. I think the 49ers might be caught sleepwalking a little bit. I'm going to go Brown's 2320.


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[Assistant] Alright, so you're, you're, yeaah, I mean, so you don't have any thoughts there, but either way, uh,


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[Assistant] I don't doubt you, Mike. I think there's something to that. I don't. And Mike, you're...


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[Assistant] You know, you're, you're, you're an idiot in a lot of ways, okay, but you are great at kind of those kind of things. You're feel that way. It is amazing.


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[Assistant] Uh, you have a great gut and feel that way to where I honestly, as I pick games sometimes, I find myself thinking about you and your, your gut feelings at times going, damn, you know, Mike was kind of right about that. So, uh, I hear you and I kind of have that same gut feeling this week and I don't know if that's good or not.


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[Assistant] Alright, alright, I like it. Okay, I mean, I really do. Uh, I hope I whoop your butt this weekend, okay? Alright, now we got best bets, okay? Uhm, you know, you were, you were two out of three last week. Best bets on the year. We still both have winning records. We're five and four.


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[Assistant] Alright? Uh, I had four games that really jumped out to me. Alright? And I know we gotta pick three, but I'm just gonna tell you the four that jumped out to me, and then I'll pick my three. You want me to go first? Well, I'm gonna go first. Deal with it. I thought we'd go back and forth. Okay, fine. We'll ping pong them off each other. Okay, go, go. Your first one. Let me hear it.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's cool. I'm doing that one as well. So I'm on the bandwagon there. We both got the Patriots. I picked a 38 to 14, which would equal to 24 points and you had it what 35 17 or what was 38 14 or 38 17 38 17 38 17. So we're very similar there. All right, Patriots best bets of the week by both Florio and Sims. Okay. Second one of the week. Who you got Mike? I got the season.


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[Assistant] Alright, I mean, I, I, I got the Seahawks covering the spread too, but I don't feel, I don't trust it, and I've been burned on Thursday night, I think, every game this year, so I am certainly not going that way. Uhm, my second one will be the Bears, in London, against the Raiders. Bears favored by five, uhm,


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[Assistant] I just, and London scares me because you just, it's, it's different. You know, it's just a different atmosphere. Uh, you are traveling across the Atlantic Ocean and there's that aspect of it, but I just think this bears defense.


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[Assistant] Is just special. And I don't think this Raiders offense is all that special on that side of the ball. They have problems creating big plays. They're not gonna be able to run reverses with Trevor Davis for 60 yard touchdowns and things like that against this Bears defense.


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[Assistant] And ultimately, hey, the Raiders defense, they play tough, but I just got a feeling that


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[Assistant] Hey, the Bears offense has kind of found its way a little bit here the last two weeks, and I'm not so sure. I don't believe that it will improve under Chase Daniel, and I've been a long defender of Mitchell Drabiski, but I picked the Bears to win 20 to 13.


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[Assistant] And I was really being kinda kind to the Raiders. I think it could very easily be 27-13. It could be 20-10, 24-10. I just have a hard time thinking the Raiders are gonna score a lot of points against this bunch. Alright, third game. Mike, who you got?


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[Assistant] Ooh baby, that's, I can't believe you're doing that. Ooh, that is just, I don't agree with you on that one. We'll see, okay?


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[Assistant] I did say that, and apparently, uh, yes, I was wrong. Uhm, okay.


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[Assistant] I, I, I thought about doing, I'll just say, full transparency, I almost put the bills in my best bets, but I don't trust whether it's gonna be Matt Barkley or not, and even if it is Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] I don't trust him totally yet either, so I can't make that my best bet.


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[Assistant] Even though the Titans are favored by three, I have the Bills winning on the road. I can't go there. So my best other, my third best bet of the week will be with the Atlanta Falcons. Okay. The Atlanta Falcons on the road are five point underdogs of the Houston Texans.


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[Assistant] I just think one and three Atlanta desperation, not good pass defense by the Houston Texans. I think at the very least.


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[Assistant] The Atlanta Falcons keep this very close. I picked the Texans to win a 21-20 type football game.


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[Assistant] I don't think I would be shocked if Atlanta found a way to win this football game in general, but I have a hard time thinking they're gonna lose by more than five points in this one.


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[Assistant] That's why I go Falcons there. Those are my three best bets of the week. I got Falcons, I got Patriots, I got Bears for my bets of the week.


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[Assistant] Florio's also got the Patriots. He's going Seattle tonight in Thursday Night Football, and he's going with Mason Rudolph and the Pittsburgh Steelers attack to upset Baltimore at home. He's picking them to cover the spread and win outright.


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[Assistant] Okay, I'll be disappointed if I don't win, if I don't do well this week. Like I said, I put thought and time into this, and uhm, I'm gonna be really pissed off if I screw up.


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[Assistant] I will get hot. I always do. And I will have a run. And you just better hope it doesn't start right now, cause you're in deep trouble, okay? You'll be dead. D-E-D. Dead. Okay? I'm shakin'. I'm shakin'.


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[Assistant] Always enjoyed it, Mike. You the man. I'll see you here at NBC on Sunday. Anybody can check us out on Pro Football Talk on Monday morning. We will hit everything going on around football, but hope everyone enjoyed our picks podcast, PFTPM, Chris Sims on button collaboration. Hey, Florio. Hey, Florio.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I hear you. Thank you. I'll see you Sunday. Thank you. Alright, we're out. Thank you, Florio. See you later. Bye bye.


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[Assistant] Yo yo, what's up? Come on man, subscribe on YouTube to Chris Sims on Button Podcast. I need you, please hit the subscribe button, please!


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[Assistant] Crazy ass Peter King. Yeaah. That was actually kind of a very nice compliment by him. I, uh, I mean, one of many. I mean, one of many. You're right. One of few. No, I mean, he's got to say those things nice to me. He's stuck in the back of the car with me. He knows I'm from Jersey. Never know what happens, but either way.


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[Assistant] Last week's podcast with Peter King was a blast. Uhm, it was a lot of fun. Hey!


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[Assistant] That's my only worry. Football's back, okay? And yeah, it's so great to have a podcast where we have lots of football to talk about. Did you ever see that movie with Goldie Hawn, Wildcats? You ever see that? One of my favorite football movies. Woody Harrelson's The Quarterback. No. Bubba Gump comes in to save the day as the other quarterback. I don't know his real life name. That's a great one. I've seen like five movies.


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[Assistant] I didn't want to see that as soon as I knew the NFL got involved. They said, alright, propaganda, fake crap, I don't care.


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[Assistant] But either way, we got a lot of stuff to look forward to, right? We do. I mean, it's got some news. We're gonna break down, uh, a lot of stuff that I saw from, uh, this past weekend's preseason football games. Gonna really, hey, my eye.


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[Assistant] Uhm, as I think a lot of people's eyes should be on the rookies at this point. Yeaah. Maybe some newcomers. But you're, you know, hey, the starter players barely played, if played at all in week one. It's all about evaluating these new guys, seeing what they look like, how they're being used. So, I'll have a little tidbit on just about every guy in the first round for the most part. We'll go through that. And then, we got some news. And really,


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[Assistant] There's only one thing in the news. Yeaah. We're going to Psychoville!


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I mean as you're seeing now, I mean, you know, uh, John Gruden saying it's a serious thing. Of course it's a serious thing. It looked like three or four layers of his feet peeled off on the bottom. But ultimately what happened to me, I was getting ready to travel out to Cleveland last Monday.


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[Assistant] Adam Schefter, Chris Mortensen, the world here and be like, tell everybody. But this was one.


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[Assistant] I just couldn't take anymore as a football fan. I really was like, okay, I'm sitting in the airport, I'm going to Cleveland. What the hell is the deal with this and Tony Brown? I had no inkling and I just started texting people that I thought might have a little clue.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I had to be, it just, uh, it's like you said, it's one of the best players in football, uh, arguably the best receiver in football. A lot of people put him up in that category. He's the first ballot Hall of Famer. It's a new team. He forced himself out of an old team with a bunch of shenanigans and really an OG gangster type move as far as how he got out of Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] So then I got to it, and of course I found the answer. I broke that out on Pro Football Talk last week on Tuesday morning. Uhm, and it just seems like it's opened up the doors for a shitstorm of Antonio Brown's stories, right?


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[Assistant] And it just got weirder and weirder. And I think the first person we learned from was Michael Silver of Yahoo Sports or NFL.com. I'm not even sure what the hell one he works for anymore. Multiple platforms. Broken on Twitter and he broke the story on Twitter. Which was amazing read. All the threads. But, uh, it is interesting. I mean first off,


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[Assistant] You think he's coming back, right? Antonio Brown? Yeah, I mean, he's coming back. If they tell him he can't, this is a helmet. He's not gonna sit out. He's not gonna lose $3 million. I don't think you can assume that.


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[Assistant] Alright, well the first thing is the whole lawsuit. Him trying to say he's gonna hold the NFL liable if he gets hurt in the new helmet. That's actually better for not getting hurt. That makes no sense. So I can't imagine that the, that's gonna stand the test of time or through the court of law or anything like that. There's no way that'll stand.


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[Assistant] I mean, the helmet he's using right now has been deemed unsafe for play at this point in time and you have to move on. And he's refusing to take on the better, safer, uh, probably lighter one. Now, as far as what you're saying, like,


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[Assistant] Players being, you know, accustomed or used to little things that they wear uniform-wise. Yeaah. There were creatures of habit.


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[Assistant] And of course I'm sure he is too. He's been wearing that same helmet like you said since 2009. How many footballs has he caught from Ben Roethlisberger? How many times has he sat in front of the jug machine and caught balls while he's just sitting there with the helmet? So he's got this vision and look where


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[Assistant] He could probably do it in his sleep. I mean, he could probably close his eyes and be like, oh, I'm in my helmet, in this face mask, and I'm in my comfort zone. So he does not like that.


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[Assistant] All NFL players. I mean, I was obsessed with my thigh pads. I liked the same thigh pads. I wanted the same shoulder pads every year. I mean, all of that is part of your comfort zone, let alone the superstitious part of being an athlete.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, is he doing the helmet thing to hide the feet thing? Was the feet thing to...


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[Assistant] I mean, obviously it wasn't good enough because it was identified. The helmet was identified. Yeah, exactly. I would love the whole thing, him doing that at home, all of it.


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[Assistant] Especially if guys like Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are abiding by the rules and dealing with the same issue he is and they're moving on with life and going on to the new piece of equipment.


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[Assistant] So that's the first thing, uh, I think that gets him over the hump. Second thing is, anybody that you know who knows anything, one of the big reasons he wanted to get out of the Pittsburgh Steelers was because he felt like


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[Assistant] He wanted more money and he felt like his next contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers, he probably wasn't going to get paid big money and his money was going to go to Juju Smith Schuster.


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[Assistant] He forced himself out, partly in because, or mainly in because, he wanted one more big payday. And he got that from the Oakland Raiders. So now he did all that, and we're gonna give it up just for the helmet. I mean, I just would be absolutely shocked.


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[Assistant] So, Oakland Raiders are saying all the right things, okay? John Gruden's saying all the right things. He has to, okay? I mean, he stood on a table for this guy, who we all knew was in Crazyville to begin with, right? And here is one of his biggest moves of his second stint with the Oakland Raiders.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, he's gonna do somewhat of damage control. I mean, even if this thing was way worse than we're being let on right now, he's not gonna be like, oh, hold on everybody, this is worse than you even imagined.


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[Assistant] Oh no, this is his new toy. I mean, this is above his new toy. I mean, this is like a family member. I mean, it really is. I mean, I'm sure this is hurting him to his core.


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[Assistant] No, he's not, but he's gonna have to do it right now because he wants to make sure the guy comes back and is happy and then, you know, and when he is there, he's happy and not causing any other distractions. I mean, because if they start talking negatively about him in the press,


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[Assistant] Antonio Brown is going to come back and he might be really good at football, but he might start acting a fool in the locker room and on the practice field going, well, they don't respect me. I'm going to disrespect them.


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[Assistant] You're going to see what's going to happen. So things can get ugly in a hurry from that standpoint. You know, now for Gruden to say, uh, it's not his fault with the cryotherapy thing. I don't know if he, I know about, I believe that. I mean, it's his fault that he make a mistake and probably not realize that this would happen to his feet. Sure. But I think ultimately it's his fault. The helmet thing.


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[Assistant] I'm all for him sticking up for the guy. I get that. He understands players and that players do have their little, you know, niche things that they like that make them feel comfortable playing football. So he's gonna take his guy's corner inside for that.


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[Assistant] Now, for all the things you're saying, hey, Gruden knew what he was getting into.


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[Assistant] I'm not going to sit here and feel sorry for him or Mike Mayock. They understood. And Mike Tomlin, who coached for the Pittsburgh Steelers,


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[Assistant] He used to coach under John Gruden. So I'm sure there was enough conversation there to go, no, you know, we've heard enough stories through the years to know this isn't going to be like band practice every week with Antonio Brown. But Gruden.


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[Assistant] He is not afraid of these renegade type football players. Never has been. So I think he can handle a guy like Antonio Brown.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I don't want to say easily, but it's not outside his comfort zone. Just whether it was...


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[Assistant] Years with the Oakland Raiders and guys like Bill Romanowski and other guys he had on that team. Or my years in Tampa Bay dealing with Warren Sapp and, you know, hey, Simeon Rice and, uh, we had Ronde Barber and others just strong personalities. Not to say they're Antonio Brown-like, but like, they're, I mean, Warren Sapp is,


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[Assistant] As similar as you're gonna get to that as far as a defensive tackle position. And I think Gruden...


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[Assistant] Hey, he enables these guys a little bit because he builds them up and they're special football players and he kind of puts them on a pedestal to make them feel like, hey, you're the king and you got a ball out for me and I'll call lots of plays and ball out for you and it kind of breeds it to itself.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but when you do that, these are the kinds of things that you can get, because Antonio O'Brien has no fear right now. He has no fear. He's going,


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[Assistant] Well this is why there was not much of a market for him to get traded through. You know, that's the, you get back to this because these are the things that scared people about Antonio Brown. And your point about New England is very fair and spot on.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but New England's an outlier from that standpoint. You know, Belichick's build that, you know, that, that culture up there and because they win, it just doesn't matter who you are. When you walk in the building, you go, they don't need me. I don't care about Randy Moss. Exactly what they've done. So, but everybody else in the league,


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, they're playing favorites. Don't let anybody lie to you, okay? First of all, it's one of the things that drives me crazy about the NFL locker room. The squeaky wheel gets oiled.


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[Assistant] The guy who they say, oh, if you do good and you work hard and keep your mouth shut, will reward you? No, they always get f-


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[Assistant] And the guy who complains and only shows up for workouts every now and then,


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[Assistant] Coaches always end up hypocritical and bowing down to that guy because, oh gosh, he's super talented and we're gonna do that. And hey, I understand that goes on in any workplace. I mean, you know, you're in sales and you're the top sales guy and you're killing it, then damn, yeaah, your boss is probably gonna let you get away with being late for work than the guy who's on the bottom of the toe ball that's not selling shit.


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[Assistant] I think we're going to see Antonio Brown, yeaah, back on the practice field somewhere right after preseason game number three very conveniently. So you, you. He'll just practice really hard and get himself in shape.


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[Assistant] Just that month and a half. So you don't question his desire to play? No, I do not. I do not question his desire to play. I think he's frustrated, uh, he can be a little misguided as far as his thoughts and how to handle these situations, but I think his willingness to be great


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[Assistant] And be the top receiver in football is real. And I think ultimately,


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[Assistant] When he gets this foot issue figured out, he's gonna be back on there because I expect the NFL's gonna tell him like, hey,


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[Assistant] You're cool and all, and we like you, and you're a big deal in this league, but


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[Assistant] We're the NFL, and ratings stay pretty high no matter who the hell comes in and out of the league. I mean, Peyton Manning retired and the NFL did not crumble. Somehow stayed alive. I mean, somehow. I don't know how it did it. And he's a pretty big deal too. So, you know, he's gonna get the brutal truth about the helmet thing, he's gonna have to make the switch.


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[Assistant] It's the two craziest off-season stories I've seen in a long time and then pulled off by the same guy. I mean, I've never seen anybody pull off what he pulled off to Pittsburgh to get to Oakland. He's the first guy ever to basically hold the team hostage and say,


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[Assistant] Nah, I'm gonna do what I want to. I know you owe me money and you're gonna lose money if you betray me, but I'm still getting out of town and I'm gonna get paid. I've never seen anything like that.


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[Assistant] Wants to wear his ten year old helmet as number three. Okay. Okay.


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[Assistant] Was all messed up and not looking like the rest of our, I mean, that would have been the funnest day of practice for me ever as a quarterback. I'd have been ragging on him the whole day.


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[Assistant] And I knew you had to put something on your feet or extremities there to, to cover yourself. So I don't know if he was misinformed there, if he had never done it before, or he just thought, damn, I'm Antonio Brown and my feet won't freeze. I'll just go through it. I'm not putting any of those out of the realm of possibilities with this guy right now, but I like that. That was a good power.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright, I got a very important thing to do here. I got a professional read. Yes, go for it. Okay, cause I'm a professional. I don't know if you knew that or not. Good luck. Uhm, Peter King podcast. I gotta give it some pub. I mean, I was stuck in the car with the guy for two hours, okay?


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[Assistant] Uh, either way, the Peter King podcast, I recommend anybody download it. Great interviews, great insight. I mean, he's Peter freaking King. He gets access to guys that most people in the media


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[Assistant] Don't. And I mean, he helped me get access to even in Pittsburgh and Cleveland to certain guys, but he's still on his training camp tour. Check that out this week in the podcast. He's got Christian McCaffrey. He's out.


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[Assistant] In Raiderland today, so we might have some more on the Antonio Brown front here because of Peter King. I know he's pissed off because his flight got delayed and he didn't get to go to Arizona yesterday. So he's, he's really pissed that he didn't get to go see Kyle O'Murray. He couldn't even fake it on the little video I saw.


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[Assistant] Hey, anything from Peter is phenomenal and Peter just-


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[Assistant] I could, every time, you know, so Peter, what do you think? I'll tell you this about the Philadelphia Eagles, Chris. He's just amazing. He's just a fountain of knowledge and stories and, uh, truly enjoy listening to them. So I recommend that, that download for anybody out there, the podcast, Peter Shink podcast.


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[Assistant] It looked like the number one pick in the draft. I mean, a guy that, you know, this is why Arizona took him and traded away Josh Rosen, because you can see the special gifts that he has right from the start. I mean, it's apparent.


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[Assistant] You know, from the very first throw, just how quickly he can get the ball out of his hands, and you know, between that, the look in the pocket, the comfort level,


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[Assistant] Uhm, the way the ball just absolutely explodes out of his hands, I mean, hey, throwing outrouts to his left, bam, on the money. Outrout to the right, bam, on the money.


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[Assistant] On the run to the right, you can just run full speed and flick it with no effort, you know, on the money. His one incompletion was a scramble getting outside of the pocket where the receiver stepped out of bounds and then came back in bounds. He threw that ball on the screws as well.


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[Assistant] I just think from everything I saw, and again, I'm not about stats, I don't even care if he went two for seven at all on these throws or whatever it may be, he looked the part.


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[Assistant] I would not be shocked. I don't know if they have enough help around him. That would be the biggest question. You know, to continue to further evaluate their offensive line. Can they run the ball good enough with David Johnson just to keep people honest that way? All those things will dictate how well he does.


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[Assistant] But either way, he's got special talents that we haven't seen come into this league. And your point to what you're saying with that offense.


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[Assistant] I can't remember a rookie quarterback coming into that type of situation. It's really amazing.


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[Assistant] And it should, it makes him feel comfortable. And you could tell he's comfortable. You know, is where I looked at other rookie quarterbacks when they're kind of


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[Assistant] Getting to the line of scrimmage and they're changing a play. You could see that second of pause like


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[Assistant] You know, they know what they want to do, but they can't spit it out of their mouth yet. And they're like, you know, check, check, check, check, check. He was like, instantaneously lifted a leg, didn't see what he was like. He was directing traffic right away. Why? Because he knows the offense inside and out. He's not even having to change the system.


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[Assistant] And everybody's looking to him for the answers, which also empowers him even more to be like, yeah, I'm the man, I got the answers, and I'm the young guy here. So, all those things, positive, and uh, hey, they would be...


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[Assistant] They would be rolling, I mean, they would have a lot of sleepless nights if they didn't draft him and they saw that game somewhere else.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but the, you know, again, the numbers match what you see. And another guy where I just looked at, okay, he belongs, okay, he's very comfortable. It wasn't like deer in the headlights, like, oh gosh, you know, this is too much for me.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's a pure thrower. He threw the ball better than I gave him credit for. And I knew that, I knew going into the game that there was going to be some things that he was going to do, do well. I've heard too many positive reviews out of New York training camp. One from my dad, uh, who was there last week. I think my dad's been there multiple times who said, ooh, yeah, Christopher Daniel Jones is,


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[Assistant] He's more talented than I had given him credit for. And I know they were raving about him in the OTAs and all that too. But either way, yeaah, what you saw there, smooth throwing, perfect spirals, accuracy, on point, and again, ball popping out of his hand. Now I'm not gonna say it was like popping out of his hand like Kyler Murray-ish.


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[Assistant] Still impressive enough to go, oh, there's a 20 yard out route on the money for a touchdown, you know, in the back, back right corner of the end zone. So I wish we'd have got to see another drive, but either way,


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[Assistant] He might be the most impressive guy of the weekend, not because of what I just saw physically, but because of all the things you said. There was the most pressure on him. I mean, if he threw an interception on that first drive, holy crap, would he have heard it? We've been talking about, did they mess up the number six pick?


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[Assistant] One, they did a good drive, uh, good job of


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[Assistant] Uh, orchestrating a drive, calling some players that I think were friendly to him and that he felt comfortable with. But two,


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[Assistant] He made some great throws. You know, not only the touchdown throw, he throws a big deep cross pass, too, where, you know, I look at little things like this, you know, so, so, so many times as a rookie quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, you drop back and go, oh, the number one receiver, he, he's not open. Oh gosh, and you start to panic. And you look at number two, and you don't give number two a chance, because number one got covered so quickly, where you're not even giving two the proper time. So all of a sudden now you're off two, and you're on to three, and three's not ready, and all of a sudden scramble, or, you know, you gotta throw the ball to the back, because everything's out of whack.


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[Assistant] He throws a d cross, I can't remember who it is, who he threw it to, but.


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[Assistant] Number one, was it open? And he said, he just sat there and just said, okay, number two is not where I want him to be, but I can see he's going to be open. And he stood there in the pocket in the throwing position, patted the ball another one or two times, bam, throws a strike on the sideline there, 20 something yard gain. Those are the things that go, ooh.


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[Assistant] The guy's got a feel, it's not a, he's not a robot, and that's when I say he was very comfortable being out there, wasn't deer in the headlights, where, you know, hey, we've seen other quarterbacks, I could go to Drew Locke and the Hall of Fame game where I would go, yeah, there was a few deer in the headlight moments where he was just like, oh gosh, I don't know where to go with the ball, I'll just throw it over there. I didn't see any of that from Daniel Jones, so good for him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what he saw. Yeah, you're right. It does. You can look at it either way. The pressure's off because he has nowhere to go but up. Uh, but yet the pressure's on because yeah, he's under a microscope and a lot of people don't think he's the number six pick. But, uh, it doesn't seem to affect him at all. Yeah. And I think it was a real positive with the way he looked.


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[Assistant] We're not going to the Super Bowl. We know what Eli is at this point. Move on. He can put pressure on the whole organization and the situation itself if he continues to play the way he did last week.


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[Assistant] Well, the one thing, and I know Eli Manning has, has fixed his throwing motion too. Worked with a baseball coach. I've heard good things about him in training camp too. And again, from my dad being one of those people. Uhm, but I think that one thing that leads to that stuff for giant fans too, is you see Daniel Jones go in there and just go,


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[Assistant] Man, his arm looks fresh. The ball looks like it's poppin'. Well yeah, a lot of quarterbacks are gonna look like the ball pops out of their hands after watching Eli Manning for the last three or four years kind of just throw, eh, balls all over the field. Yeah. And, uh, that's why Eli, yeah, he's gonna have to play well to keep his job.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, big, powerful man. The biggest thing I'll take away from, one of the biggest knocks that he had from the draft was his movement. He's not a good athlete, he ran a 5'2".


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[Assistant] At the combine. Which was not a good look, I get that. But the film never said 5-2. And the film never said, oh he can't move around in the pocket and make things happen. So I think that was the first thing I took away. He scrambled a number of times, he had people around him a few times, kind of moved in the pocket and made throws like that.


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[Assistant] A good offense, a good quarterback make you defend the whole field, right? You can't play like one certain area, oh, this guy likes to throw it short or this guy likes to throw it between the numbers. Dwayne Haskins is not going to allow you to do any of that stuff. I mean, the first play, his first play of his career is,


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[Assistant] He just does it so nonchalant. Oh, okay, 30 yard laser in between the corner and the safety, bam, completion. The guy ended up fumbling either way. So there's plenty of things right there where he's going to strike fear into defenses that I go, ooh, I like all of that. Now there's some raw moments, definitely.


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[Assistant] I mean, hey, the second interception, it was bad. He's throwing a seam route down the middle. Not only is the throw bad, he locked onto the receiver.


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[Assistant] The safety was cheated over to that side already. He should have played the other side, but he's young and he's only played one year and these are all the things we thought. The first interception, the one that got the pick six, actually less concerning to me. He made the right read. The play is there. Wheel route to the tailback. Right. He had him coming out of the backfield, had the look he wanted.


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[Assistant] Before, or you throw a laser at the guy and kind of back shoulder him before he gets to that linebacker so that linebacker can't pick six it. So he kind of got caught in between throws there. But either way, I would be encouraged with what I saw. I don't think Dwayne Hastings is going to start the season.


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[Assistant] You know, I know it's an open battle and they're going to continue to say that.


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[Assistant] I fully expected to be Case Keenum, who looked good too, by the way. Uhm, and, and then a little bit like we just talked about with Eli Manning and Daniel Jones. We get to week four or week five, and they're, you know, two and four, or one and three. Hey, they're gonna go out, the Redskins aren't going to the Super Bowl, then you might see Dwayne Haskins, but I still think you could see.


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[Assistant] Some people jumping off sides. The pauses I talked about at the line of scrimmage when he was changing plays and things. You could tell it just wasn't natural to him at the time. He was getting it done, but it just, he's thinking a lot still. So a lot of good, I certainly was not discouraged by the two interceptions. I'm more encouraged by what I saw from


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean maybe that's who he is. But I do know that the, the, the Lions were doing their due diligence on the quarterbacks and were thinking about it. So, uh, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, much better from, and again, I'll say this, even in the Hall of Fame game, I don't care that the results weren't that great. I, I, I go for the look at first, you know.


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[Assistant] Does he have a presence in the pocket? When he does move, am I going, ooh, he moves well. When he does throw the ball, does the ball pop? I don't expect guys to be, you know, striping, you know, strike after strike after strike just on the money type throws in their first recent game.


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[Assistant] Just like we talked with Dwayne Hosk- Dwayne Hoskins, Drew Locke the same way. I mean, I don't think Drew Locke was really coached his senior year in college. He just went out there and played football and just made it happen. So, there's gonna be a little bit of a learning curve there. But I thought-


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[Assistant] The second game against the Seahawks was much more impressive.


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[Assistant] He didn't miss throws where I just said, oh, come on, you gotta hit that throw. There was a few of those in the Hall of Fame game where you went, man, come on, man, he's open, you gotta hit that. You know, this game, I think he took advantage of all those situations. I still don't think he's comfortable. I saw enough and watched him enough on film last year to go, you know, hey, he just not letting it fly right now.


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[Assistant] For an example, if last year in Missouri, if he had a guy 30 yards open down the middle of the field, he would have thrown his laser and just hit him in the chest. Right now there's a guy open 30 yards down the middle of the field, he's kind of like,


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[Assistant] Let me just lay it in there so he'll catch it. So that tells me he's thinking, he's trying to be careful, he's trying to be perfect, all those things, but I do like the athlete, I do like the arm, and I think it's all going in the right direction, and I thought it was a pretty good performance, uh, in Seattle.


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[Assistant] Yes, I, you know, I knew we were going to talk about quarterbacks, and our asshole producer, Matt Casey, came in and said, oh, we're going to break down all the working quarterbacks, and we've got to talk about Jared Statham, right? Yep, yep, I'm talking to you, Matt Casey. And Matt Casey didn't like you. Yeah, I know he did, so what, he has to deal with it. He doesn't have a microphone. Yeah, right, deal with it.


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[Assistant] But I'm just talking about, like. And Kyler Murray, you're pretty high on him. I am high on him, so I'm throwing out praise to all these guys. I was blown away with Stidhams. Stidhams was maybe as good as Daniel Jones.


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[Assistant] Now I thought that he was every bit as good as Daniel Jones coming out in the draft too. So maybe I'm biased and we'll continue. But I think as anybody listens to me, they're going to start to, you know, if I was biased, I would have found some negative about Daniel Jones because, you know, I was kind of negative in my, in my draft, uh, you know, research and all that. But Stidham, I mean,


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[Assistant] That's, that's NFL, like, week five of the season throw. Standing in the pocket, talk about the poise again, people around him not getting off reads too early. Oh, here comes an in-cut 20 yards down the middle of the field.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a little hole for that. If I just throw it high and give him a chance to catch it, bam, he puts it right on the money. I mean, he really reminded me of Jimmy Garoppolo and his mannerisms too, the way he played. But you gotta be excited if you're a New England Patriots fan, because I do think this guy has the skill set


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[Assistant] He was a first round pick two years ago, if he comes out at Auburn. When they were good, the team was good. But you know what? The team wasn't good. It filtered into his play, and made him look like a little bit of a disaster altogether. He had some of the worst pass protection I saw, and he didn't have a great senior year.


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[Assistant] Man, he's in the perfect spot. You could tell he's taking the learning. And yeaah, his arm.


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[Assistant] His arm has some serious pop. I mean, it does. I'm not gonna say it's Dwayne Haskins, but it's not Kyler Murray, but it's the next level down. It's right there. It's a stronger arm than Daniel Jones.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I really liked what I saw, uh, from Jared's cinema. I'm just trying to think if there was anything, you know.


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[Assistant] Didn't rush through reads. At times, things were off, but he could tell through the big picture of the defense, ooh, this guy's gonna be open if I just stand here for a second longer. And he did it and delivered the ball on the money for the most part. Like really, really impressed with the way he looked.


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[Assistant] Huge caveat. Yes. Against the Detroit Lions. Yes, I know.


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[Assistant] That looked horrible. I know, it did not look good. But I'm not gonna let that dictate anything. And like I said, some of the throws, people were covered or it was a tight window and he just didn't flinch and just threw it right in there. So pumped about what I saw from him.


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[Assistant] He was, he was good. Wasn't great. He's got room to improve. Uhm, and, and again, I say this with everybody knowing, this is a guy that's in his second year, he's on his second team, and he's learning a system that is one of the harder systems to learn in all of football.


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[Assistant] He made a few nice throws. He throws such a pretty ball. He can be so accurate with things he does as far as placement of the ball. Uhm, the things I wrote down that kind of bothered me I think the most?


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[Assistant] He was overaggressive. He was a little overaggressive at times. And you know, Brian Flores made some comments the day after the game. I wish he would stop being such a gunslinger. Yeah, there was a few throws where you go,


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[Assistant] The guy's covered down the field. Don't throw it to him. There's somebody underneath. Just hit it. Move on. Let's get three or four yards and we'll go to second and six. What's six?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, when a guy's like totally smothered on the sidelines, right, and you've been looking at him for five seconds and he's still not open, don't just throw it to him just to go, oh, I was aggressive, right? Like, oh great, you were aggressive, but it wasn't worth the shit. So, don't be.


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[Assistant] Get off it. Move on to the next read. I felt like he was, there were some plays where he was looking to like, take this competition by the reins and I'm gonna show everybody and,


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[Assistant] You better watch out. He's dangerous. He becomes a gunslinger and fearless again, right? Uh, but yeah, hey, the first play he's in on the game, he's got a play that we would call Ride 134 Go. It means two go routes on the outside. We. That's what New England terminology is.


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[Assistant] It's got a go route, a go route, and the tight end's gonna run a deep cross. The go route's covered. He won't get off it. He just keeps looking at it, looking at it, cause he wanted to throw the go route. And is this stuff you've seen from him from last year? No, last year, no, no. I think this is, this is something new, a totally different situation. Uhm, but I would've just been like,


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[Assistant] The go's not there. Get off it. There's your tight end coming across. You had a 20 yard completion but you were obsessed with that go route and it ended up being an incompletion where you just forced it for no reason because you wanted to throw it. You know, there was a, a slant flat combination one time. He wanted to throw the slant.


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[Assistant] The quarterback teaching and the defense said throw the ball to the flat. They've out leveraged the guy to the flat. If you threw it to him, you would have got six, eight yards. Instead, he sits there, he has nowhere to throw the slant, ends up getting sacked. Little things like that. Uhm, I think I might have had one other one, but yeaah, just


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[Assistant] Other thing you gotta take into account here, he did not have great pass pro when he was in there.


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[Assistant] I did think overall, his throwing is pure, he shows more talent with his arm. You know, his decision making was not top notch and like I said, he was a little jumpy in the pocket because of the pressure and I thought he hung on the first read a few times a little too long.


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[Assistant] He can get over that, and I think that's a battle that still has a lot of mileage left in it.


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[Assistant] That's why I say the look. You know, it's not, I'm not gonna just overanalyze and oh, okay, you know, this guy gets in and he's playing with his second team offense versus the first team defense. All of a sudden, yeaah, it's a disadvantage. It might not look great statistically when all is said and done.


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[Assistant] But I'm gonna look as the guy look physically capable of being there, can he do some special things? Is he making the right decisions even though there's nothing there to be had? Those are the little things you look at at this point.


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[Assistant] Okay, uh, Quinn and Williams from the Jets. Quinn and Williams.


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[Assistant] Not a lot to say there, okay? It was good. I'm gonna say it's indifferent. There was nothing special to talk about. It was only one drive, maybe two, off the top of my head. Certainly nothing good or bad. I gotta see more. But I'm not like, oh gosh, that was


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[Assistant] But I, but I did, no, I, I said, I said the thing I said, I think I wrote the, the best thing he did, he was very good at double teams. That was the one thing I'll say. You know, he's not a huge defensive tackle, he's 295, 298, 305, somewhere in there.


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[Assistant] I thought he handled double teams very well. Very rapid, the first one. Matt Casey's not happy right now. Ed Oliver. Ed Oliver. Good bet. Man, looks small, looks like Aaron Donald, but...


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[Assistant] It's, it's, my biggest question was double teams with him.


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[Assistant] He was phenomenal first double teams and his athleticism pops. I was more encouraged with what I saw. And again, this means nothing. This is early. Yeah. But yeah, he was more encouraging after one game than Quinn and Williams, but they're being asked to do different things, but starting defensive tackle right off the bat at Oliver. People thought the Raiders reached on, uh, Cleveland furl.


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[Assistant] And as of right now, I would say that's still real. And again, I don't, I'm not, not that it was bad, but Cleland Farrow, when I talk about the look of a guy or what it looks like, yeaah, it was underwhelming. And it's, yes, there's not explosion coming off the edge.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's worth the number four pick. We'll see. I hope he proves me wrong. I know the kid's good. I know he works hard. All of those things.


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[Assistant] Always concerning me too, on third downs, when you drafted a number four pick to be a pass rusher, and they're already moving him to defensive tackle, and bringing other guys in to rush the edge. For the number four pick, Coyle Mack was the number four pick.


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[Assistant] Is greatness there. Number four is greatness. And I know they're solid there.


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[Assistant] And good, but I don't know if there's greatness. I am rapid as hell. Not been a great week for the Raiders, right? I mean, that's no, that's no. You want to talk about the other two rookies? They look good. Jonathan Abrams is safety. He's like a pit bull in the back end. Watch out. I mean, he's looking to rip your head off or latch on and never let go. Okay. And then the Trayvon Mull in the corner.


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[Assistant] Damn, starting looks good, looks like a starter, I think he's going to be a stud. So, there's some love in the radars. Klaylen Farrell, I know he's going to be good in play, but I don't see superstar yet until he proves me wrong. Uh, Josh Allen, not the quarterback, we're going to go into Jackson. Josh Allen, the physicality in the run game is what jumped out to me.


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[Assistant] The way he looked in his uniform jumped out to me. I mean, he looked Adonis-like out there. Greek God. He was great in the run game. My big question about Josh Allen still remains though.


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[Assistant] Does he, can he win with power in the pass rush? It was underwhelming with the pass rush. Again, I know Glegs are tired, it's the first preseason game, they're thinking a lot. But those are things I need to see as I go forward. He's physical in all aspects of his game, except for the pass rush. And if he doesn't get speed to power, or get a power move,


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[Assistant] He's not speedy enough to where he's just going to win like that all game, every game, against often NFL left tackles. Brian Burns, Carolina.


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[Assistant] Freaky athlete. Like, his movements, his things he can do in space are really special. I think that's the first thing I looked at. Didn't show a variety of uh, pass rush moves.


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[Assistant] The big question he has to answer is a little bit like we just talked about. He's a 245 pound defense end. Can he win with power? Can he bull rush offensive tackles? If he can just do that with a little bit of consistency, it's gonna make him really hard to block with everything else because everything else is there.


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[Assistant] The ability to threaten you upfield and then go under. The ability just to beat you with pure speed around the edge. I mean that's all there. But if he doesn't have a power move, which he did a lot in this game, I can tell, I think that's all they told him to do. Let's do power, let's do power. But I was really encouraged with what he looks like. There's not a lot of like,


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[Assistant] Animals in the NFL that look like Brian Burns running around. He's very much like the guy in Chicago, Leonard Floyd, who was a top six pick. He very much has that same skill set. Stock rising. Stock rising, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Devin White looks good, he's fast as hell, it was, it wasn't a lot to go from, and he only played, I think, you know, 10 plays, maybe even that, not even that, so, you know, I'll give you a better assessment after next week.


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[Assistant] Either way, he looks the part and that's encouraging. Now you go to the Devin Bush.


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[Assistant] He did more. He was in there more. One, I got to see him in person last Wednesday in practice. I mean, what an unbelievable set of ass and legs, first off, okay. You and Peter talked about? Yes, definitely. I mean, he's playing a major role for that defense. They're trying to get him ready right away. He is...


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[Assistant] Very special. His big question is going to be getting off blocks or avoiding blocks when the run game's coming right at him. He's gonna have to figure out what he wants to do there. Is he gonna be a guy that lays the hammer down when they're coming to block him? Or is he gonna be a guy that makes somebody miss like Ryan Chazier and then wiggle his way around to make the tackle? He's gonna have to figure that aspect out as he goes along.


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[Assistant] Yes. No, it's impressive. Yeaah, yeaah. Impressive. Both guys are really impressive. Devin Bush just played a whole lot more and I get to see a lot more of him than Devin White. So Devin Bush stock rising on Devin Bush? Yeaah, yeaah, definitely. Yeaah, definitely.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly right. I was high on him already. Uhm, we just gotta see more snaps to give you a clearer picture.


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[Assistant] He is a load to handle in the run game. He's gonna dominate tight ends and things like that. He has a physical presence about him. His athleticism jumps off the screen as far as his first step or change of direction. I have one big question with Rashaun Gary. It's play stamina. That's the only thing I worry about.


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[Assistant] You know, on 98% of those snaps. I think that's the biggest question going forward. As you watch him and evaluate him, he can give you two or three snaps, or you go, ooh, man, pedals to the metal. But on that four snap, you could beat him in a race. And that's what worries me about it. I think that's why they let him play so much in this game. They're probably worried about him getting in shape, so he can do 60, 70 snaps a game.


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[Assistant] Him, okay, and that safety on the back end, Darnell Savage, I think are very, very impressive looking. Okay, Darnell Savage, impressive. Nikhil Harry, with the Patriots? Yea, Nikhil Harry, the first thing that jumps out is size.


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[Assistant] Now I know he's got a little hamstring issue, I believe, that there's some tightness there. Maybe that's it. So I want to see that going forward.


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[Assistant] You know, I knew he was going to be able to catch the contested balls and those things. Ken, he beat people over the top.


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[Assistant] Like a Michael Thomas type for them. Big slot receiver who works the middle of the field a lot.


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[Assistant] Should've had a touchdown catch. He runs a little double move along the left sideline for a 40-something yard gain. He's got the guy beat. If the quarterback just throws it out there, he's gonna walk into the end zone. Instead, it's underthrown. He jumps up. He catches it. Kind of mosses the guy to catch the football. But I'm encouraged with what I saw from Debo Samuel. And I'm gonna further this conversation with Jalen Hurd. I'm telling you,


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[Assistant] He got a reverse the other night. These guys, Jalen Hurd, played running back at the University of Tennessee.


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[Assistant] They're going to be able to put these guys on the field at the same time and you're not going to know where they're going to line up. I would not be shocked if you saw Jalen Hurd and Deebo Samuel at tailback or, or Garoppolo in the shotgun and it's Jalen Hurd and


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[Assistant] Michael Hardman from the Chiefs? What? Rock it up his ass? I mean, that's what he is. Yes, it's a technical term. Is he okay? Is he okay? Yeah, he is. He seems to be quite fine with it. It's gonna get him a lot of money one of these days, okay? But, Michael Hardman...


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[Assistant] It's a very similar, like, story to Tyreek Hill. It's a guy who's raw at receiver. He's just a weapon again. Who they're gonna try to polish his receiving skills, but...


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[Assistant] You're gonna see speed sweeps and reverses and wide receiver screens and just as soon as you think you're doing that, boom, he's gonna go right over the top for 60 yard gains that way.


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[Assistant] True danger, perfect for what they wanna do there in Kansas City. I mean, Kansas City's gonna be scary when him, Sammy Watkins, and Tyree Kill are in the game all at the same time, with Travis Kelce.


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[Assistant] Who are you gonna double? Who are you gonna leave man to man? If you are man to man, with any one of those three, they can run right by you. And that should be exciting for Kansas City Chiefs fans.


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[Assistant] I, I did. Dave in Montgomery, and I'll, I'll say this, I wasn't real high on him coming out in the draft.


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[Assistant] He can make people miss. He's got incredible vision. He's elusive that way.


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[Assistant] My big question is, and I don't think I've been answered here yet with this, you know, some of those runs are against second and third stringers, and I'm not trying to take anything away from it, but my point is,


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[Assistant] His speed is still a little bit of an issue to me. You know, he catches a screen on the right side where, yea, it makes good yardage, but every running back in football would have got those yards. I mean, the good ones, it would have been a house call. It was him, one-on-one with one guy, and it would have, so, you know, again, just don't look at the stats and go, oh, the stats are pretty good. No, it's what's there to be had. How much did you take advantage of it?


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[Assistant] His running between the tackles is impressive because he is elusive, he can make people miss, he can run through arm tackles. My problem is acceleration. He can make a person miss, and by the time he gets going again, the first person is going to catch him and tackle him. And I think that's what I worry about and I need to see a little bit more, but nonetheless a good start by Monko.


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[Assistant] They do, and I'm going to be on it tomorrow. Oh, you are? I am. With Josh. With Josh Morris? Yes, yes, well.


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[Assistant] I should say this, tomorrow we're having a live fantasy draft, okay? So it's not the podcast. Already? Yes. It's, it's, it's August 13th. Wow. It's Tuesday, August 13th. I'm gonna be on there with Josh Norris and all the guys from Rotor World.


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[Assistant] Plus Yahoo, we're gonna live stream it on, uh, YouTube, 12 p.m. to 2 p.m. tomorrow, available on the Rotal World Football Podcast, okay? And uhm, hey, don't forget, there's the Rotal World


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[Assistant] They gave me a draft guide. I got a free copy at the cafeteria. There you go. And it's mobile optimized too. Somebody wrote that on the bottom of my card and I don't know what that means. No, the magazine's not mobile optimized. No, it's not? I guess actually it is.


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[Assistant] So I'm looking forward to that tomorrow because I am coolest about fantasy. I'm gonna try to give a little reality to their fantasy when this draft goes on and maybe add some insight there so we'll see how it goes.


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[Assistant] First of all, it's fascinating. Who's in trouble out there in Minnesota? Is it Dan Bailey, the kicker, or the punter, who I can't remember his name off the top of my head? But either way, it's gonna be fascinating too, if they decide to sign, uh, what's his name, uh, Vedvik? Vedvik? Yeah, Corey Vedvik.


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[Assistant] I mean, this could be the wave of the future. I mean, again. You have one roster spot for your kicker. That would be unbelievable. Either way, even if he's just your field goal kicker, now you have a backup punter that's on the roster too just in case something happens. So that's a great insurance policy from that standpoint.


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[Assistant] You know, with this day and age, the 53-man roster and the 46-second dress during game day,


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[Assistant] Man, I would think this is something that coaches are going to want more and more. You have this guy, maybe you can have a third string quarterback or one extra defense alignment or one extra special teamer that you want to add to it. So I'm with you, we're underselling that one.


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[Assistant] You're always like, it's going to be a little bit of a shell shock for any team that plays them. Their defense is a little different than most as far as creativity. Even their base packages are a little more creative than the normal base packages. So from that standpoint, I could see why they'd be a pain in the butt to deal with in the preseason. Okay.