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[Assistant] And, and our guy from, uh, Elijah Moore from Ole Miss, shit. The Jets, I like their moves and what they're doing. I really do. Even re-signing LaMarcus Joyner to one year. LaMarcus Joyner fits that defensive skein. He can be their Jimmy Ward, like for the 49ers. He can be that guy. So yeaah, I did like their moves. I think it helps their team. Helps Zach Wilson. Helps Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] You know, hey, listen, they got weapons, right? So you can't keep them all. It's just, it's part of the business in the NFL. Got three damn good receivers, right? They got that. Uh, first off, you know, uh, Kappa, great. I mean, killer, road grader.


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[Assistant] He's tough as hell. I mean, you've seen Brady back there in just about every game. He's got great protection. They can overpower people in the run game. You know, so he's, he's great. I mean, and they didn't have to, you know, give top level


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[Assistant] Brandon Scherff type money to make that happen. So that's good. Ted Carras, the reason I like this is, yes, he could start. Even if he doesn't start, he's a great backup.


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[Assistant] He's a guy that's like, can play all three positions. He's played center and guard.


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[Assistant] When he's been in, uh, New England. And you know, when you get a New England guy, you're getting a guy that's gonna be extremely well-schooled in techniques, knowin' all different types of protections. So that's great. So now you prepare that, Jonah Williams a left tackle, right? And now they gotta figure out what they're gonna do with their second round pick.


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[Assistant] From last year, uhm, Carmen, Carmen Jackson, right? I'm not even, I'm just going off the top.


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[Assistant] From Clemson, who I would think would be in the running for right tackle.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I look at that and go, I would be shocked if the Bangos offensive line isn't better next year. Okay.


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[Assistant] Let's see where the draft goes to see if they can add depth. Maybe there's guys there. Again, I don't have feel for that position yet when it comes to the draft, so I can't really tell you the


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[Assistant] He's great in the pass game, and he can be that


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[Assistant] One cut, like hey, outside zone, outside zone, outside zone, get the ball, be patient, press the edge. Look for that one gap. When you see that one gap, put your foot in the ground and run through that thing a thousand miles per hour. That's what he can be. And then he's got the type of explosiveness and ability to where you can go, oh, he just ripped off a 50 yard run.


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[Assistant] Oh, he came out of the backfield and ran a wheel route up the sideline for 40 yards. That's great. So he's really going to be great on all three downs. And you know, a guy that.


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[Assistant] Guys that go, I have no regard for my body as I run through this hole.


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[Assistant] I have none. I don't care about my body. Coach told me to run through a hundred miles per hour. Yes sir, coach. I'm going to do it. What? My head got knocked off. I'll do it again next play. That's the way they are. So he fits that. And man, this is another team like Miami, where I go, I mean, like Jacksonville, where I just go, these moves made sense to me.


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[Assistant] You know, first off, good protection by Teddy Bridgewater for your football team. Good backup, but not overriding backup that people are going to be like, man, we want Teddy, right? He's going to give Tula a chance. And then if he falls on his face and okay, we got a guy here to save the day. That's great. Cedric Wilson, you're right. I mean, Cedric Wilson.


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[Assistant] I mean, yes, under the radar, you know, big time talent. We know Dallas wanted to keep him.


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[Assistant] That was their plan with trading Amari Cooper, was they wanted to get Michael Gallup and Cedric Wilson under contract. Wilson.


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[Assistant] You know, you add that with some like, 188 centimeters, which is 6'2". It's 6'2". Okay, so it's not quite as big as I thought. Uhm, but either way, I think Route Runner can do it all. That's perfect there. Gosecki, we just talked about that scheme. They need that. George Kittle.


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[Assistant] I like all that. And then, re-signed one of the best players on their defense that really the world doesn't know that, in Emmanuel Agba.


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[Assistant] You know, he's not a superstar pass rusher, but he's a damn good pass rusher who has 3-4-4-3 defense end.


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[Assistant] And that's where it's rare. And again, down there in Miami, they're still running the New England defense. So they need guys like that. They need a guy that, yea, he can two gap and one gap. That's what they're looking for. And that's where Agba's special. And he's never gonna be a 15 sack a year guy.


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[Assistant] His best thing he does is throw phase, jump balls, back shoulders, those. So you get a Preston Williams, Cedric Wilson, those are guys that can kind of do that.


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[Assistant] And then that's where it fits. And now, okay, wait, we got size on the outside and we got this little Jalen Waddle in the middle who's quick as hell and got three rockets up his ass. That's going to make things interesting to defend them. Breaking news.


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[Assistant] So it sounds like they swooped in and gave him an offer.


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[Assistant] That was. That he could not refuse. He could not refuse. And I bet you he wanted to give the Dallas Cowboys the home count benefit of the Dow. They've been very good to him. They have. But, you know, again, this goes into the, you know, we talked about a little with, with, um,


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[Assistant] That group of coaches, he's gonna want, so what does Randy Gregory do? Yeah, when we're in nickel, he plays the events end. You can stand him up and play him outside linebacker. He's that kind of athlete too. So there he is. He's gonna be the Leonard Floyd.


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[Assistant] Of Denver, right? If that makes sense. So then they got Bradley Chubb on the other side and hopefully he can, you know, be healthy and all to go and that, oh, that, that could be big time. I thought I saw other news, but I was wrong.


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[Assistant] We weren't expecting five years, 70 million from somebody. So that one seems to me like.


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[Assistant] Like, Denver let things get down the road and told the agent, hey, when you think you're getting close to making a deal, tell us and let us have one chance to, you know, take a swing and see if we can impress you. And it sounds like they impressed him to where he said, okay, Jerry, I like you, but I gotta go somewhere else.


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[Assistant] That's not good. Hey, I'm sitting here looking at news right now. I'm sorry. James Daniels to the Steelers. They need some guard help. That's a good signing by them right there. I like that. Sorry, I just wanted to do that. And Andrew Whitworth retiring. And Andrew Whitworth retired, right, which was expected.


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[Assistant] I do think Mitch can be good. Mitch was better in Chicago than people give him credit for, as we talked about then for many years. It was the worst offense in football. He was involved in Chicago. Sorry everybody out there. And they still went to the playoffs for two years.


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[Assistant] Did a lot of good things. Hey, the playoff game against the Philadelphia Eagles that they lost a double doink. He played good in that game. Go back and watch it. And what a clutch drive that was to go win the game before the stupid kicker missed his kick. I mean, easy, makeable kick as far as NFL standards are concerned.


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[Assistant] So, you know, again, is he perfect? No. But Buffalo was the perfect place to rehabilitate him. He was awesome in preseason last year. And...


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[Assistant] Buffalo people raved about him all year. And then I think when you match up also to that, man, all the players on Buffalo liked him and all the players on Chicago liked him. It seems like everybody likes Mitchell Trubisky except Matt Nagy. Alright, so maybe it was Nagy and his issue. It wasn't everybody else. So yes, that and...


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[Assistant] I think Pittsburgh wants to run an offense that's a little bit more movement of the quarterback. That's what Matt Canada wants to do. So Trubisky, I mean, he's got low 4-6, high 4-5-ish type speed.


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[Assistant] He's an impressive athlete. He has a strong arm. Can he work on accuracy a little bit? Yes. But we saw last year with a good offensive coach and Brian Dayball, accuracy improved in the preseason. He was much more of a machine throwing the football. So yes, he's the kind of guy that I think you give this deal for and


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[Assistant] It gives you wiggle room for a lot of things. Hey, wiggle room to maybe he can prove to us he's a starter and he is the guy for the future. Wiggle room to if we do draft a quarterback.


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[Assistant] And let's say we take a Malik Willis from Liberty at pick 20 or 21, wherever Pittsburgh is. Now we don't have to throw him in there right away. Trubisky can be the quarterback for a year, maybe two if we got to.


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[Assistant] Right? Okay, wait, we don't draft the quarterback. We got Mitchell Trubisky, but they just tendered Dwayne Haskins to two and a half million dollars. If Dwayne Haskins has a big, awesome training camp and outperforms him, okay, fine, shit, we start Dwayne Haskins. We got a good backup in Trubisky in case shit falls apart. And I think they've given themselves like,


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[Assistant] A lot of areas to where they're not desperate anymore. And they're going to be able to keep all avenues open as they go forward. So I think, and then the answer, a question about the offense. They want to do more of the movement, the quarterback run stuff.


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[Assistant] Najee Harris, that running game, you know, he's good at pa- you know, out in the pass game. We saw last year, Claypool and Deontay Johnson's speed sweeps in reverse became a big part of their offense. I think that's what they kinda wanna do there, and that's where Chubisky, I think, fits what they wanna do. And, uh, I, you know, I think it's a good move for them.


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[Assistant] That's what I was saying. They tendered him. Okay. So he's gonna get over 2.5 million this year. So he said, I mean, that's where it kind of covered all bases. Like, we got a starter, but he's not like, oh, definitely the starter if somebody outperforms him because we paid him such stupid money. Right. Right. Gives you a little, hey, oh, wait, you know, again, what people don't realize too is,


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[Assistant] The draft is still in a very early process for a lot of the big decision makers.


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[Assistant] Pro personnel, the GM's might know what they got, but they gotta now have the coaches and the people that are gonna coach these guys also go, oh wait, he is what you thought he was and it all matched up. So you're a long way off of that, let alone we know this is not like the most stellar


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[Assistant] quarterback draft class we've ever seen in the history of football either to where, you know, you might be a little tentative this year in a year to go, I don't know if I want to draft any of these guys. I'm not sure how great they're going to be. We're talking about that on Monday. We're going to talk. We're going to rank it up.


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[Assistant] I don't know. No, this is gonna be an interesting one here. Uhm, I know what he means, I know what our aggrieved book 33 means is where it's like a little bit where I, you know, I stick


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[Assistant] I said this on indie radio there, where it's just like, you know, I mean, yeaah, I understand you want to get rid of Carson Lentz, but what's, as long as you got a better option, or an option that's equal. And that's where I just go, ahhh, so what is out there right now that's equal or better? Marcus Mariota has been mentioned as a possible target. Mariota has been mentioned, certainly. Am I going to say he's better than Carson Lentz? No, I'm not.


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[Assistant] You know, Jimmy Garoppolo's out there, everybody thinks Jimmy Garoppolo's going there. I just go, man, we're gonna, we got rid of a quarterback that throws a lot of dumb interceptions for another quarterback who's, maybe throws more dumb interceptions? That's where I don't look at it.


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[Assistant] That's right. Carson Wentz has way more talent than Jimmy Garoppolo. We've seen Carson Wentz carry teams. Never seen Jimmy Garoppolo do that. So, yeaah, the options are a little scary that way. And, you know, you mentioned those two.


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[Assistant] I think they're gonna have to kind of evaluate this. Uh, Jameis Winston, he's out there. And I know that might not be, ooh wow, I love that, but- I like Jameis. There's still Jameis Winston starting.


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[Assistant] You know, caliber traits there, alright. Ryan Fitzpatrick, are you gonna do that? I don't think so. Or do you wait to see how a few more dominoes fall here? Does, does Deshaun Watson go to Cleveland?


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[Assistant] You know, and does Baker Mayfield necessarily, definitely go to Houston if that trade's made? I don't know, does he become available to the open market? You know, does he end up going to, to,


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[Assistant] Uh, Philadelphia, now Jalen Hurts becomes available? And now you go that option? You know, I don't know, but it's, it's a little scary to me out there right now looking at the current landscape. They don't have a great... Doesn't nothing that just goes wow.


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[Assistant] You know, it's a team that has salary cap issues.


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[Assistant] You know, Michael Thomas hasn't played football in a year. There was a part of me that just questioned, is he gonna definitely be back with the Saints for sure?


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[Assistant] Deontay Harris, I love his weapon, you know, kind of jack of all trades, you know, scary weapon X guy on the offensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Alvin Kamara is still really good, even though it's year seven, and we're getting there now. They didn't sign Jarvis Landry yet, did they? I mean, I didn't miss that, right? They're just talking about that?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, I don't think Jarvis Landry's the guy they need. Michael Thomas does the Jarvis Landry stuff. He can block in the run game. He works the middle of the field.


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[Assistant] Jarvis Landry is not a guy that's necessarily famous for separation on the outside as a receiver. He's not. He needs to be in the slot and needs a little help from the system. And to me, that's what Michael Thomas does. So, you know, I don't see that happening, but it's certainly not the worst place. They still got a good defense, they still got an offensive line, uh,


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[Assistant] I do. I do. Yes. New head coach, you know, I know it's a lot of the same regime down there, but yes, I think Cleveland's team is set up a little better for the future.


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[Assistant] But he's gonna get, he's not gonna get huge money. He's gonna get more like, hey, you're our starter kind of money, but you gotta prove it to get more. That would be kind of what I would think. I would think actually really, if he got signed by a team, he's probably gonna get a deal similar to what he's got with the 49ers. So it's gonna be, you know, 24.


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[Assistant] 22, 25 million a year. Prove to us you're the guy.


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[Assistant] 20 million, somewhere in that range. Okay, one year, 20 million. Yeaah, something like that. Like, where it's like, hey, prove it. Or a two year deal that's kind of averages out to that to, you know, where there's maybe some incentives to be had and everything there. But, I think that's where, you know, I would say the range that would be fair in my eyes there. He's making 27.5 right now.


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[Assistant] You know, again, I'm looking at the rest of the group here. You know, once you get out of the 20s, Brady's the last guy in the 20s at 25 million a year with Derek Carr. Right now. Right? So, I would think it's somewhere along those lines as far as being paid right around there.


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[Assistant] He's still under contract, right? Yeah. So you gotta pay him. You gotta pay him that, right? You know they don't want him.


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[Assistant] So are they going to keep them at 27.5? Oh no, you're not? Oh, because their value goes down. Right. Because you don't want to keep them. We're doing you a favor by trading and taking the contract.


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[Assistant] We can't, oh wait, he can't practice for our football team until July? Hopefully? End of July? August? Hopefully?


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[Assistant] Wow. Okay, great. You know, I mean, that's, those are all things to me that hurt the value of, of Jimmy G to where, you know, that's where I even questioned was the, the delay of the shoulder surgery. All a screw you to San Francisco, but I would think you could almost get them for mid round pick really. Ooh, maybe less third, fourth.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, who else are we missing? They missed somebody else in free agency. Uhm, they got your various award, I like that. But yeaah, I think it's one of those you hold on.


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[Assistant] You know, kind of as long as you can here for a little, or just a little bit longer. Just to see if you can't get the Colts or the Panthers, or just see what happens with the Watson domino to see now who becomes desperate for the next guy. Cause Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna be


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[Assistant] And what I've seen as of right now, no, I mean, he helped them out for right now. It's not, that shouldn't affect it. Don't let, what I would say there is just don't let that, that theme affect what, oh, you think that's affecting the football team. No, they were already in dire.


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[Assistant] Dire, you know, a dire spot, is that right? I guess so. So whatever way. Dire straights. Dire straights. There we go. Yes, they were already in a bad spot with that. Rogers helped them out. You know, where it's going to hurt them is


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[Assistant] It's the added two extra years on the contract that it's gonna be like,


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[Assistant] You know, the Saints this year, Drew Brees wasn't on the roster, but it was a huge cap number for him to still be there.


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[Assistant] Right, that's where it's gonna hurt them. But I think the next two to three, I don't think it's really killed. From my information I have here, yes, it's a 28 million dollar cap hit this year. Next year's 31 million dollar cap hit. So that's not huge. The year after that it goes to 40. Now again, let's not forget that the salary cap's going up as we're doing this. But then it becomes those two years at the end.


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[Assistant] Where it becomes 59, 53 million dollars and that's where it might become an issue for their football team. Could be a problem.


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[Assistant] I like Devondre, of course. He was phenomenal last year for them. He's by far the best linebacker they have on their football team. Preston Smith was not great last year. He's good. He was not great. He finished stronger than he started.


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[Assistant] But, you know, again, for, for what they want to do and defense end, I mean, I think they like and like what he does and brings to the team. He's still kind of in the prime of his career. To me, the question is just like, yeah, are they going to be able to finagle enough money for, you know, Devonte Adams, who's going to want probably $23 million a year, basically, or more, right?


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[Assistant] Then what, what's the ripple effects off of that? Oh no. Can you, can you resign a Marques Valdez scantling?


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[Assistant] I don't know, after that contract's done and all that? Cause he's free. Alan Lazard's free.


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[Assistant] You know, and they're good players. Valdo Scanling would be one of those guys that I wouldn't be shocked gets paid a little bit more money than we expect because he can fly.


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[Assistant] He has a specific role that some teams are going to look at and go, damn, we don't have a guy that can threaten anybody deep. We need one guy like, oh, Valdez Gantling is a 4-3-ish type guy. Let's do that.


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[Assistant] That's where I look at it, just to go, you know, where does it go for their team from here? And you know, again too, they're another team. Jai Alexander is going to be out, confer a new contract here soon. I mean, they got some


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[Assistant] Hold on, let me pull up the teams. AFC or NFC? AFC.


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[Assistant] Hmm, let me see. Is Marcus May still out there? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me just see this here.


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[Assistant] He was with a very good play. He's a really good free safety. I mean, ball-hawking free safety in the middle of the field. I'm gonna say... Baltimore Ravens.


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[Assistant] Look at you scouting it out. But it tackles well.


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[Assistant] You know, got some coverage skills as far as man to man. I mean, that's a good job by them for sure. I mean, he really is. He's, he's, uh, definitely one of the best safeties in football.


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[Assistant] You know, I know there's people that thought like maybe Tyron Matthew might end up in Baltimore. Marcus Williams, as you can see by the price tag, is in a different level right now than a Tyron Matthew. You know, and that's another one too, it's interesting just all together. You know, I think people are surprised like the Chiefs didn't re-sign him. You know, Tyron Matthew is not what he used to be. I'm not proud to sit here and say that.


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[Assistant] But he's no longer one of the five best safeties in football. That time has come and gone. I'm sorry. You know, and I'm sure the price tag is probably a little more than what teams feel like it really is worth right now.


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[Assistant] And they signed Justin Reed from the Texans. Justin Reed is a good player. He's better than Tyron Matthew at this point in his career. I'm sorry. And I don't, I don't, cause I really like Tyron Matthew. I always have been a big fan. Um, but yeah, it'd be interesting to see where he goes. I liked that signing by the Chiefs by the way and great signing.


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[Assistant] I mean hey, they traded a lot for them, they paid them a ton of money, okay, and


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[Assistant] When he is hitting on all cylinders, he's really freaking good. I mean, he was really good at the end of the year last year. You know, he's got some legal issues and all of that, but yeah, good for them for, you know, trying to, trying to figure that out. He's definitely one of the linchpins of their, their Superbowl caliber team. Breaking news.


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[Assistant] And I know, we have a question above that from Ticksguy417 who says like, what's the real NFL evaluation about Kirk Cousins, right? Cause Twitter's 50-50 on them. First off, don't listen to Twitter, is what the first thing I would tell you at Ticksguy417, okay? Don't, you know, you got plumbers there that are evaluating them that have never seen a player ever in their life.


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[Assistant] Give me a banker, give me a banker now. Still doesn't mean they know Jack Diddley Squad, okay? Yeah. But, uhm, you know,


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[Assistant] I think with, uhm, here's the evaluation. You talk to really good offensive coordinators or bright minds, they like Kirk Cousins because they go, wait, he's going to run my offense and make all the throws. You talk about guys that want to rely on quarterbacks to make more plays with their physical ability. They're not going to love Kirk Cousins. So it's a little bit of a mixed bag that way.


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[Assistant] The McVeys, the Shanahan's of the world, the Kevin O'Connell's who believe in their system and believe they're going to be able to coach you to things, to read things that other coaches aren't and they're going to make you better. They like Kirk Cousins. They do.


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[Assistant] You know, Kirk Cousins, yes, he's not the guy that, hey, nobody's open, the pass protection broke down, hey guys, no worries, jump on my back, I'll carry the team. That's not who he is. He needs some system help. There's no doubt.


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[Assistant] If he's in a system with a little talent around him, he can take advantage of just about all that's there to be had. He can. And that's where he's good. You know, as far as the Vikings and what was wrong with them last year, you know, offensively, I look at it and go, going in the right direction.


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[Assistant] You know, they are. You know, I don't love their offense. Like they're another team where you, I think you've heard me say, like if they can't run the ball and they have to rely down just to drop back pass game, I don't love that aspect, but that should change now with Kevin O'Connell. So that's cool. Defensively was the real issue last year.


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[Assistant] You know, their secondary was kinda being flipped over that way. So, you know, the defense was really the issue I looked at more than anything on that side of the ball. And I think that, you know, was really the thing that I look at as the problem with their team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they were, and, and, you know, I mean, had some heartbreakers, and some things were, and some games where you go, you know, again, I know they lost, but damn.


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[Assistant] Gosh, that was a tough way to lose that football game. Dalvin Cook looked like he was on his right cheek when they called the fumble against the Bengals. It's a chip shot field goal against the Cardinals. They missed that.


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[Assistant] Boom. You know, there are one where I think the offense is a little bit better than the numbers would say, and then they made the defense, which was still towards the bottom of football, a little bit better than what it looked. Because,


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[Assistant] Well, they could control the clock, run the ball, make some plays that way in the pass game, be explosive.


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[Assistant] It's just, can he not do dumb things? Can he take care of the football? Can you trust them to be consistently a machine at quarterbacking the football team? So yeah, they got to look at that. I bet you they're thinking about maybe giving him a legit chance, but I would be, I would think they're one of the teams to look out for to, to maybe draft a quarterback too.


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[Assistant] Well, again, I mean, they're, they're, they have no first round pick, right? Because of the Jamal Adams trade. But, I dunno, do they look to...


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[Assistant] You know, second round, I don't know, maybe if there's somebody on the board late in the first they liked. I wouldn't be shocked if Seattle went the young quarterback, rookie contract thing. Let's build the team and try to do it like we did with Russell Wilson again. You know, again, there are definitely a team you look at and go, man, there's limited options out there. I'm going to be interested to see what they do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they got, they got Noah Phant, they got the Shelby Harris from that trade. Got it. You know, and, uh, Diggs is a really good football player. I mean, one of the best things they got going about their football team is their safety tandem. So why ruin that? And he's, you know, free safety, you know, heat seeking missile. And, uh, yeah, I really like him. I think that's a good signing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, he's, he's still really good. Do I look at him as one of like the most five physically gifted running or linebackers in football anymore? No, I don't.


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[Assistant] It hasn't fallen far off, too far off for, for Bobby Wagner. You know, the thing is, and what you're seeing here in free agency, none of the old guys got signed yesterday, right? None of the old guys. You didn't see any of the guys that are in there really 32, 33, the Chandler Jones, the Tyrone Matthews, none of them. Cause everybody, it's, it's, they're risky.


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[Assistant] Von Miller, right. Those are guys to rent Armstead, way to go, right. These are guys where everybody kind of wants to like, wait, let's see if-


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[Assistant] You know, they're high-priced, aging veterans. Do we really want to spend all that money? Do we really trust that they won't, you know, JJ Watt us, right? They're gonna pay you all this money even though you got a little injury history. Oh wait, you're injured after we paid you all this money? I'm really surprised by that.


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[Assistant] That to me, Noah is a real thing that's on teams radars right now. Getting burned with the veteran third contract.


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[Assistant] You know, that I don't know. I guess I gotta evaluate that a little bit, but still really good football player. No doubt. Do I put him in the class of Foyaside Oluwakon or Roquan Smith or Devin White or Fred Warner or Darius Leonard? No, I don't. But you know, that next crop of guys that he'd be in


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[Assistant] That's exactly what it is. When you get to players in your 9, 10, 11, 12, you just go, man, you know, how many years can we skirt by? Are we going to get the injury bug guy now? Is it going to finally hit? That's what's scary about that, let alone if they've had injuries before, which Wagner has not, which should help him out. I'm nervous to do this.


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[Assistant] If you come with some Chase Daniel crap or like third string quarterback crap, I'm getting out of running back.


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[Assistant] Got a weapon, another weapon. Yeaah, good. That's what he is, is a weapon. Devon Singletary-ish, right? Gonna have real value in the pass game.


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[Assistant] Well again, they, you know, got a quarterback that can move in a little bit, and he can do the speed sweeps, reverses, you can put him. Singletary is not a free agent, right? Am I wrong about that? He might be a free agent. He is not. So, it's an interesting pairing. But, I think it gives him another guy that, you know, comes out of the backfield and can be a real pass option.


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[Assistant] Let me see. I mean, you know, listen, I know Gabriel Davis is good. Stefan Diggs is good. McKenzie's your jitterbug weapon reverses. Let's throw a shallow cross and see if he can make people miss and run another 20 yards.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you know, I was one clamoring last year for like, I want another big time receiver. I want another guy out there that's like, you know, scary that way.


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[Assistant] That to me is what they need a little bit. I would like to see them get a guy like a Valdez Scanling or somebody like that. Stretch the field. Nah, the guy that you gotta throw the ball 80 times a game to, the guy, or 80 times a year, the guy that you throw maybe 40 or 50 times to, but when you throw it to him, defenses go, oh crap.


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[Assistant] It's, they're going to him. You know, that to me is what they need. That's what I would like to see. That, and then, as I've said all along,


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[Assistant] Pass rusher difference maker. And I know they got some young guys coming up the ranks that they're looking at. Or another corner difference maker. To me they're missing one other piece there. Just to go, okay, wait, I feel like personnel wise now they can match up with any team in the AFC. Right.


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[Assistant] You know, the different type. You got digs who can do everything, who can go deep. You got Gabriel Divas, who's more of a size, contested catch, worked the middle of the field. Jitterbug McKenzie. Now, alright.


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[Assistant] Yeah, to me, to be that guy is scary a little bit. I'm trying to look right now if there's anybody on the free agent list that makes sense that way, you know, other than Marques Valdez Scanling. You know, Will Fuller-ish type of guy. Not necessarily saying that kind of guy, but somebody like that. You got the point. Okay.


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[Assistant] Delicatessenewjersey? Right, this is New Jersey, this is Franklin Lakes, Wyckoff, Jumbo,


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[Assistant] Right, well Pete's wife went to my high school, she went to the same high school I did, she's from Wyckoff, New Jersey. Okay. I went to, I'm Franklin Lynx. See, my town gets split up.


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[Assistant] Even though the school's in our town, they split our town up and let another full town go to our school and half our town gets split up. It's the dumbest shit ever, but that's the way they do it. Market baskets like, you know, the high end


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[Assistant] You know, grocery store. Oh, it's like a gourmet grocery store, right? Get it? Like that? It's like, you know, Dean and DeLuca's, you know, maybe even a little more specialized than Whole Foods, but a lot like that, right? Premium stuff.


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[Assistant] The original market basket in Wyckoff, small and a little small shopping center. It's nice.


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[Assistant] It doesn't beat the Jumbo Market Basket in Franklin Lakes. No, it doesn't. So I'm going Jumbo Market Basket in Franklin Lakes. But, if I want a Italian hero, I don't go to either one of those places. What? I go to La Strada in Midland Park. Oh, okay. Yeaah. You gotta trust the people who know how to make those type of sandwiches.


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[Assistant] The best sub-sandwich you'll ever get. I bought it for the whole team, the Buccaneers, one year. I got like 140 sandwiches from La Strada Delicatessen. They have them down in Tampa? No, we buy them in the Jets. They came and delivered them to the team. I had the team like, oh my gosh, this is the best


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[Assistant] This makes me believe. This makes me believe what I said is what happened. You know, again, I don't know this, but I've been around football my whole life.


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[Assistant] I'm betting the Broncos told the agent, let us get one more crack. We might be able to blow the doors off your player. And so he said yes to Dallas with not getting an offer.


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[Assistant] Okay, here's a tentative offer. I'll take it. The agent calls Denver and said this is what they're offering. It looks like he's probably gonna go back. And they one-upped it to where Randy was like, I can't turn that down even though I told maybe the Cowboys I would go there.


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[Assistant] No, no, it would, nothing prevents it. It's just gonna take, it takes every now and then the rare agent team, you know, relationship and a team that's willing to kind of do that and just kind of like, wait, we're not gonna make the offer or our best offer until we have to.


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[Assistant] That to me looks the way it's lining up there.


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[Assistant] Like really, that's what I want to ask the homies. That's what I want to ask the homies. Really? If you really had to put your money down, you're really gonna put it down on the other three teams and not go with Mahomes and Company? You get three teams. I know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they got nothing. They made no moves yet, right? No, they got Mark Glowinski. Oh, Glowinski? Yeah, okay, a little card.


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[Assistant] Alright, so they're getting some, well, they're building, they're building some depth on the offensive line. That's what that is. Those are two guys that Gowinski could start. If not, he's going to be a high end backup. Feliciano probably really the same way.


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[Assistant] But our trust is still strong. It is still strong. It is. I mean, you wore the red pants today, and that's what matters most, okay? On our first day back. Those are the important things. Alright, so here's the deal. Alright, uh, Thursday,


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[Assistant] I gotta go see the in-laws in Florida, alright? Sorry to say. It's a real pain in my ass. I'm not even lying. It's a real pain in my ass. Uhm, so I'm going to do that.


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna be doing a live podcast on Thursday. We're gonna take some clips of some other things. PFT, you know, we're gonna add that on the podcast. Monday, I'm back and I'm not going anywhere for a long time and we will start doing draft rankings.


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[Assistant] And specifically quarterback rankings on Monday. You're going to be here for that? That's Monday. Okay, you'll be here. Ahmet will be here. So there you go. That's it.


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[Assistant] No, I don't. I make me very nervous. She understands my feelings about her in-law, her parents anyways. Uhm, alright everybody. Peace out. And now so do the homies. And now the homies do too. Yes, yes. They need to be better. Peace out everybody out there. Be good. Ahmed, you the man. Clap it up.


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[Assistant] We digested a little better than years past that way. Plenty of quarterback talk for the draft class to get to. Couple of pretty good headlines to start out with. We had things, we had news anyway. About five minutes ago, they come out with this. Tyreek Hill has been granted permission to seek a trade.


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[Assistant] I know the age is getting there, but when you watch him, he still looks super fast. He does. He still loves contact. He still turns a two yard gain into eight yard gain all the time on those quick little hitches. Right.


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[Assistant] Uh, if I'm remembering correctly, there we go. Zach Wilson at one, Trevor Lawrence two, Mack Jones at three. You were kind of cutting against the grain with Zach Wilson at one instead of Trevor. And Mack Jones as high as three. Most people had him lower. Four Kellen Mond, five Trey Lance, and six Justin Fields.


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[Assistant] So, we have arm strength comparable to Zach Wilson. Better release. Accuracy better than Lawrence. I mean, this is good.


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[Assistant] But as for today, you're talking about what you see as a quarterback. We're going to get back to Corral in a second. I want to pay off this question because I'm interested to hear. He wanted you to compare this year's five, which I believe is Desmond Ritter, to last year's five. Trey Lance, is that right?


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[Assistant] It's from Freaks Skull. He said, Hey Chris and Paul love the pod. Love the quarterback rankings pod. Where would you rank Matt Corral if he was in last year's class? And Chris already answered that. He would have him third, which is where Matt Jones was. So I think that's another nice compliment.


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[Assistant] I always listen to you, I think this is the third or fourth year we've done this together, and I'm always, I mean, I listen for a lot of reasons, but one of the things I listen for, I'm like, okay, Chris might make a change there. And like, I could see a month from now, I mean, you may not do it, but just based off of taking it all in, you know, sitting here across from you, I could see a potential change with Willis and Pickett.


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[Assistant] Do you think it's possible for Pickett to be a near top 10 quarterback? If yes, how likely?


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[Assistant] It's a big win for a quarterback who goes in the bottom half of the first round of the 20s somewhere. Teams would sign up for that. You're thinking about taking him at 20, if you're Pittsburgh, if he's there. Hey, he can be as good as Ryan Tannehill. I think you would take that and run with it.


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[Assistant] Okay, let's move on to your number three guy. Malik Willis at a Liberty pro day yesterday. I've watched it a couple times. I would imagine you have as well. What did you make of him flinging the ball around out there? I loved his demeanor and smiling. Great demeanor. Having a good time with it.


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[Assistant] That's a great point too, and I wanted to ask you, with his running potential, like we see Josh Allen at times of the year run it 8, 10, 12 times a year. I worry about it, but it was a really nice part of their offense. Do you think he can bring that to whoever he goes to?


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[Assistant] Having been to so many of these quarterback pro days the last, I don't know, 10 or 15 years, I always like to look at not only how the quarterback's doing obviously, but where the head coaches and GMs are around the field and what they're doing.


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[Assistant] GM was right there, right behind him. Doesn't mean he's gonna take him, but I mean, history says that when they want to be that close to him, a lot of times it's more than just games.


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[Assistant] It always seems to go that way. It's easy to fall for a guy more than you should at a pro day.


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[Assistant] They don't fix it. They're not in them. I want to highlight what you were pointing out. I think it's really important. I mean, if you watch the whole season of his and there's not much of that, it's not because those coaches don't realize there's money to be made in the middle of the field. Like something's happening there. Like those plays aren't there for a reason.


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[Assistant] Bringing us to your fourth quarterback, Sam Howell. Yep. This is from Watch The All 22. He says, Sam Howell equals Baker Mayfield 2.0. Change my mind.


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[Assistant] And so he had all this, all this attention and excitement. And I thought like the rest of his career was pretty good.


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[Assistant] I mean, shoot, I mean, most people would sign up for it, but with the way it started, the kind of natural talent he has and what he did right away, I don't know if it ever lived up to it. Could have been play calling and guys around him, but I mean, I wanted his career to be an A after his first season.


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[Assistant] And you read his creativity and putting this defense in this spot where are we going to worry most about Kelsey or Hill and now Hill's gone. Man, it just, I'm shocked that they were really getting rid of him.


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[Assistant] It is hard. I mean, like we've been listening to you for the last couple months here on your evaluations of the prospects when it comes to the mock.


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[Assistant] Which, I don't know that we did that great on it and putting teams out there. We did catalyze a conversation, which I think is the important part.


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[Assistant] There's so much misinformation out there. Some from teams, right? Oh, definitely. It's very hard to get a read on what these teams are thinking. And that might change throughout the draft too, it seems like. Definitely. Depending on what happens ahead of them.


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[Assistant] Um, historical in a lot of different ways. There were things that happened in this first round and we'll get to this whole draft, but there were things that happened that we have never seen before. It's been a really long time.


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[Assistant] First quarterback taken, picked 20 or later. First time since 1997.


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[Assistant] First five picks, all defense haven't seen that since 1991.


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[Assistant] Nine teams had multiple picks, that's never happened before. It's crazy. Ten teams had no picks in the first round, that was weird. So that's the first time that's ever happened before.


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[Assistant] Five defenders from the same school, Georgia, went in the first round the first time that's ever happened. Of all those things, uhm, which one kinda stood out to you the most?


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[Assistant] Seeing this happen to wide receivers now though, I mean, is that necessarily the case with a wide receiver? Cause I'm a fan of the Detroit Lions who had a pretty good draft here, but in the past have taken wide receivers very early, multiple years in a row and they didn't really pan out. Like are we getting to a point where these teams are more sure that these guys are going to pan out or has the game evolved to that point?


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[Assistant] And, and teams like the Titans can say, you know, yeah, he, Traylon Brooks is not AJ Brown. He can maybe give us at first year, 60%, maybe 70% of AJ Brown. And then we'll take that other 20 million or 18 million and use it on the stud defensive lineman or offensive tackle.


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[Assistant] It'll be interesting to see how they all pan out, right? Did they all make themselves better by playing on that team? Like I always bring this up. I never played at the professional level, but like I was playing JV baseball one year and then got called up to varsity for a couple of games. I was like, Oh man, I got called up. I was like, this is going to be hard.


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[Assistant] It was very difficult for anyone to predict, including...


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[Assistant] Our own homies. We had the Sims Perfect 10, right? What'd we promise? If, if you got all 10 and went to points bet and put the bet on there and you got one through 10, correct? $100,000. $100,000. Free bets. You were going to come onto this podcast.


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[Assistant] One person did make it a perfect five for five, but then had Kenny pick it to the Panthers at number six. I still feel like we should shout it, like send a note to that guy, say good job. You made it as far as everyone else.


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[Assistant] That's the one thing, that like, of all the things, and you were talking about this before we started, the betting markets were spot on with a lot of this stuff. What? Definitely. Like they know stuff. What? Jake Croucher from Points Bet.


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[Assistant] And if you and the betting market favored the over, so they were thinking maybe three quarterbacks in the first round. And so if you were thinking there'd be three quarterbacks in the first round.


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[Assistant] Even if you included the second round, you were still wrong, because it was just one quarterback in the first two rounds, Kenny Pick at 20 to...


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[Assistant] Pittsburgh and then you had to wait to round three. Desmond Ritter off the board in round three to the, um, to, uh, the Falcons and then Malik Willis in round three to Tennessee. And then Matt Corral, Carolina finally got their quarterback in the draft round three.


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[Assistant] And Sam Howell didn't go until round five. Uhm, Bailey Zappi from Western Kentucky went to the Patriots. They got their Brian Hoyer.


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[Assistant] And you need to be sold on that for the quarterback, right? Of all positions. Definitely the most important. Definitely. Other positions, defensive tackle, maybe use a little bit of wild cards.


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[Assistant] Who do you think, out of the quarterbacks that went after Kenny Pickett, cause obviously, I mean, Pittsburgh thinks that Kenny Pickett can be a guy, that's why you take him in the first round, right? So it might not be this year, but it could be next year, but who knows, it could be this year. Of the other guys, who do you think gets on the field


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[Assistant] Man, if he could do it over again, he'd probably go back to school, right? Because you mentioned a couple things, right? Obviously, his stock was down this year compared to what it was last year. Who knows? Maybe it doesn't go up, but maybe more teams need a quarterback. This was a weird year with quarterbacks. I don't know. If you're Sam Howell sitting there right now, you're going to Washington, you're getting your chance to go in the NFL, but maybe you think like, man, dang, I should have maybe gone back one year.


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[Assistant] Well they got a team, they got a chance, happened to Chris, now you're sitting next to me. So who knows, maybe 10 years from now Malik will be sitting next to me. Maybe he will, maybe he'll just take my job.


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[Assistant] Alright, cause you think the Ravens did well, but let's start with the Lions here, and we'll get to the Ravens next. Because, uh, I do think, and I'm biased, but I do think the Lions did very well. And, you know, that's not always a-


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[Assistant] Uhm, being a fan of a team, sometimes you're harsher on your team too. Sure. Right? So it's not just because I'm a fan, I'm gonna like their draft. Right. A lot of times you're like, ah this sucks, why we take those guys, they're gonna turn out to be nothing. Uhm, but I think these guys are gonna turn out to be good players, so.


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[Assistant] We're looking at the Lions draft now, if you're watching on YouTube or Peacock. They got Aiden Hutchinson cause Trayvon Walker, uh, went number one to the Jags and they traded up for Jameson Williams.


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[Assistant] But then got one of the guys that you like at defensive end in Josh Pascal from Kentucky, Kirby Joseph, a safety out of Illinois. Got some love out there. Malcolm Rodriguez, an athletic linebacker who played quarterback in high school, went in the sixth round. So, you know, the top two you've kind of talked about a little bit, but overall here, what do you think of the Lions?


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[Assistant] Digital mains says the Lions had a good draft. How do you feel about them getting three versatile pass rushers in Aiden Hutchinson, Josh Paschal, and James Houston from Jackson State? I predicted they'd get two, but three is intriguing. So in digital mains mock draft, he had two DNs going to the Lions. They got three of them. So what do you think about that? Cause I thought it was kind of intriguing. It's like, wow.


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[Assistant] You're kind of stacked up on, on that position. What's the philosophy there?


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[Assistant] We mentioned all the weapons that the Lions have on the offensive side. Jamison Williams, a new one there. Uh, Nick.


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[Assistant] Kozlian says, Chris, do you believe the Lions see Jared Goff as a multi-year starter? Had several opportunities to draft a quarterback this year and passed. Uhm, so yea, what do you, a lot of people, like, you did hear it, like, wow, could the Lions go Malik Willis? I thought maybe, yea. Glad they didn't do that. Yea.


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[Assistant] Like, I was surprised that there was so much trading. Right. Right, because it seemed like this was a draft where it was like, uh, I mean, they're all kind of the same, there may be no game changer, so it's just like, you probably just sit back, you wait, and whatever players are there when it's your pick, you take them. But it seemed like a lot of teams fell in love with some players, or enough to want to trade up and get them, use draft capital to get them.


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[Assistant] Caleb Beard, as we move on to the Ravens here, said, Hey guys, love the pod. Ravens stay put and constantly have amazing guys fall to them. Almost everyone they got seemed like a difference maker, no matter what round. And what'd they end up taking? What, like 11 guys here? How many picks did they have? They dominated. Uhm, 11, 11 players. 6 in round 4.


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[Assistant] Including your guy, Jalen Armour Davis, a corner that you like a lot. It took, uh, pick 119 for him to go off the board. But before that, they got another good DB and Kyle Hamilton, the best safety in the draft. Linderbaum, the center, the best center in the draft.


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[Assistant] David Ojabo, who a lot of people like, the Achilles injury, of course a bummer, but got him in the second round.


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[Assistant] And then, I mean, I just, I was like, when do I stop here? Travis Jones that you like a lot, the big dude up front, the Yukon.


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[Assistant] Love em! So, yeaah, I mean, you love what the Ravens did.


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[Assistant] What are you thinking? You got, you got 11 new dudes coming in. Yeah. Well, like that's the one part of the draft. I think no one really thinks about a lot of times. Like I thought of it when chase Claypool went up there to announce a pick in round number two, right? You know, he's all pumped up. He's like, Hey everyone, I'm here. And he reads the card is George Pickens wide receiver out of Georgia.


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[Assistant] You're like, oh crap. You know, it's good. You got, you know, teammates that can help you win, get the Super Bowl, but at the same time, every draft.


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[Assistant] If you're a current Baltimore Raven what are you thinking right now?


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[Assistant] Which he wasn't really. Even though yea, it was like, it was known that Hollywood, at least inside the team, uhm, that he wanted out. So they did not draft a wide receiver.


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[Assistant] I mean what, who does Lamar have to throw to? Well, like, he's got one of the best pass catching tight ends in football.


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[Assistant] Interesting you say that there's not a free agent wide receiver that's gonna...


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[Assistant] Put Baltimore Ravens as number one on their list because those franchises and I know in other sports too, it's like the San Francisco Giants and baseball. It's a huge park.


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[Assistant] The Kansas City Chiefs. NY Chiefs fan says the Chiefs slayed it.


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[Assistant] Absolutely killed it in the draft, so he approves, or she, uh, to start picking off at the end of rounds and then maneuver around the board, get impact players that they did. I've said it a few times, this draft was Brett Veitch's magnum over.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, maybe, yeah. It seems like a relatively common phrase that we don't know exactly the roots of it. Yeah, Mr. Holland's Opus, I think is what. Richard Dreyfus.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, cause when you trade Tyreek Hill, you're like, oh wow, I know he was, you know, as much as Patrick Mahomes was that offense. It was like, it was him in combination with Kelsey and Tyreek Hill. So it's like without Tyreek Hill.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you drafted the wide receiver in Skymore. But it's like reshaping the team. Gotta get better defensively maybe. You know, that's the cool part of football. It's like you can win multiple ways, right? The Chiefs have won by outscoring everyone a lot over the past few years.


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[Assistant] They've had good defense at times, but you can kind of see where they may be going in the draft and how they might be reshaping the team. How might the Chiefs be different in 2022 than in 2021 and before?


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[Assistant] I did kind of have an epiphany over the weekend where it's like, this is why you pay quarterbacks a lot of money. And this is why it's so valuable to have a good quarterback is that


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[Assistant] You don't, you don't need to give them the best tools out there, right? If you're gonna pay for something, it's like, you, you assume, and maybe this is why the Packers are genius for never taking a-


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[Assistant] A top wide receiver. It's like Aaron Rodgers is so good that we don't need to draft the best receivers. You don't think Devontae Adams is the best receiver in football, but at times he looked like it because the quarterback is so good.


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[Assistant] And so I think that's, you know, that there's something to be said about that. Do we have, I did look up the definition of magnum opus. Yea, what is it?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know why I don't drink wine, but I remember that. Okay, alright, so the Chiefs did well. Yeah, they did. NY Chiefs fan, for whatever reason, is not an NY Jets fan, but you think that the Jets...


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[Assistant] Did well. Round one obviously killed it. You mentioned that already. It was Sauce Gardener, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson, all in the first round. But you think they added some nice depth.


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[Assistant] Because I didn't think running back was really a weakness on the job.


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[Assistant] Two or third best edge, close to consensus best running back, most people's best receiver, and at Chris Simms best tight end. He thinks the Jets were clearly number one.


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[Assistant] We've had two bad teams already with good drafts. Do you see the Lions draft or the Jets draft putting them close to competing for a playoff spot?


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[Assistant] Of good drafts. Won the draft. And that last team was a fringe playoff team that maybe is more of a solid playoff team now. The Philadelphia Eagles didn't have a whole lot of picks. What'd they have here? Five picks. One in the first round, got the big defensive tackle out of Georgia, Jordan Davis. Uh, but then after that,


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[Assistant] Cam Juergens, which was a guy that you kinda mentioned as a Robin Hood of the draft, right? A guy you really liked, got him in the second round, then Nakobe Dean in the third.


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[Assistant] So JL says, Eagles big time winners, Jordan Davis, AJ Brown, got a first round talent, N'Kobe Dean, uh, Howie redeeming himself since the Rager pick and showing that he learned from not surrounding Wentz with talent and giving Jalen pieces to succeed. So that's the AJ Brown trade.


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[Assistant] Big Sturg says, how does the Eagles first round moves change how you look at them going into the season? So take the whole draft into account there. Uhm, because like you mentioned with the, uh, the East on the AFC side. Yeah. Tough division. Yeah. You know, the AFC side has been a little more wide open. It is.


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[Assistant] Right. I mean, they had some, a gap in between the two teams last year, but that's some significant upgrades on the, on the Eagles side, which is why they were also in tier one. That finishes off your tier one of winners, but we have a good group of tier two winners here and we'll go through these, um, one by one because you think a lot of teams


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[Assistant] Improve themselves. And here's the thing. Everyone's like, Oh, everyone thinks they improve themselves in the draft every year. And it's like, well, that is true.


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[Assistant] Um, but you think some of these teams really stand out. Not quite as good as those five that you just mentioned. Uh, but the Denver Broncos, let's start there. Yeah. Buff a chip.


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[Assistant] If you count Russell Wilson as Denver's number one pick, the Broncos won this trade hands, or won this draft hands down.


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[Assistant] You were justified in your ranking of him, I think, with that pick right there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a, that's a solid, solid group of players. I am really interested to see what Russell Wilson does there. And they've already had, I mean, talk about playmakers on, on offense. You know, you got some guys and some receivers that, that can, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, no doubt about it. They got it all. I'm curious to see how big of a jump, because I had them as a playoff team last year, and it was looking good at times.


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[Assistant] Maybe look at it this year. So the Broncos, uh, a good draft in your mind. Also,


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[Assistant] The team that we started this whole podcast talking about. The Green Bay Packers.


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[Assistant] Uh, it took a little while. It didn't get their receiver in the first round where everyone was like, they got two picks in the first round. They'll definitely take a receiver with one of those two picks. And that did not happen to Quay Walker and Devontae Wyatt, uh, both out of Georgia, right? Two Georgia defensive guys. Um, it took the second round in that trade up, like you mentioned off the top for


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[Assistant] That I think about him is that, you know, we looked at the history with Aaron Rogers and rookie wide receiver. He's hard on him, right? It's like, you almost got to come in ready to go. If you like, he's raw, right? He might need some time. He was at North Dakota state. It's like, what, what if he comes in into training camp and Aaron Rogers just doesn't trust him from the get-go?


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[Assistant] By the Indianapolis Colts giving Matt Ryan another weapon.


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[Assistant] Uhm, start right there, real quick. I mean, because Alec Pierce, he was a player that I think a lot of people that maybe don't follow you once you threw that out there, that he was one of the better wide receivers in the draft. They're like, what are you crazy? This guy, he might not even get drafted. Well, not only did he get drafted, he was taken pick 53 overall in the second round.


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[Assistant] He says, as a Colts fan, I think the Jets won the draft, but I'm curious why you think that Chris Ballard doesn't get more love. Clearly one of the best GM's in the league and smashed the draft once again. I think he probably does get enough love by the fact that I know his name. I don't know all that. I don't know that I know every one of the GM's names, but Chris Ballard, I know his name.


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[Assistant] I think there, even though there's a lot of love for him out there, I think there are people that think like, it was a reach. Like this guy came out of nowhere. He just tested great at the Combine. You've, you've talked about that before. But you actually like, you like what the Jaguars did here in this draft.


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[Assistant] Oh, you actually did this? You took a video? Yea, Pete, while you were doing this to me in the va- in the barn.


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[Assistant] So you're playing tackle. That's where you're telling me, you know, that's where he would just go. If I tell him to go...


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[Assistant] AJ Brown. Well, they just made their team worse, regardless of who they take here. Uh, Noah Dunlap says, aside from the Brown trade, I like the Titans draft. So he said, aside from that, how do you think a team like the Titans can manage throughout the season without much talent in the wide receiver room? They did take Traylon Burks out of Arkansas with an 18th overall pick.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, they're gonna go through a season now without Julio, who hasn't been what he was for a while now. Yeaah, right. Wait, where's Julio?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Right. It's just, that's what they're gonna do. But no Julio, no AJ Brown in, uh, Tennessee land for Ryan Tanig.


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[Assistant] If they, if they looked at it and they was like, what's fair value for an AJ Brown who's going to play 13, 14 games a year? Maybe it's fair there because that's, that's about what you can expect at this point, right?


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[Assistant] Steve Kwantok says, Hi Chris, sent a tweet to your dad earlier asking for his take on the Titans taking Malik Willis in this draft. I live in Blightly and don't watch college football. A penny for your thoughts.


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[Assistant] Bring in Malik Willis as your quote unquote running, if you wanted to do that, as your running quarterback. It's like, oh, he's coming in to run. And then the other team knows that, okay, I guess he's coming in to run. You know, we don't have to worry about the pass. Not like you mentioned, then you pass. Then you pass.


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[Assistant] Wow. Because I don't even think that you really liked their number one pick. Nope, I don't love it. In Jahan Dotson. You're right, not my favorite. You don't mind the player. Right. It was higher. Higher for me. Too rich for your blood. Right.


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[Assistant] We have that on a graphic here because Chris tweeted about


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[Assistant] Uh, Percy Butler and said, tremendous arrange in center field. And this guy, Tom 3-0 said, cool about that. Quoted you and said, cool. You also said he is very good in all areas of coverage. He said, sweet. And then you also said, let alone he has three rockets up his butt. And, and Tom O goes, he has three. Oh, he said tickets, but he meant rockets up his butt.


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[Assistant] He must not be a fan of the pod. I'm sorry, HM? What's that mean? I don't think he knows what three rockets up his butt means. You know, he might almost think that's a, like, a bad thing, right? Come on, Tom 3-0? No, in his defense, in reality, if a rocket went up your butt, that would be bad. Right. And if three happened, that would be terrible.


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[Assistant] Let's go through some other teams. We got about four other teams here.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we'll go through them quickly. Just cause they made interesting picks. And I think the Steelers taking the only quarterback in round one was very interesting. Kenny Pickett. Uhm, you like the George Pickett move second here. But let's start with Pickett real quick here. Cause I have a question for you. If they don't take Pickett at 20, what happens? What happens to the quarterbacks?


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[Assistant] Uevolving says, my question, do you think Tomlin and the Steelers can get pro bowl level play out of Pickett over the longterm?


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[Assistant] I asked you in the barn, how high will he peek out on the Chris Sims top 40 quarterback?


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[Assistant] It's four foot seven, so he's a smaller guy. No, he's not big. He's a huge playmaker. Huge playmaker. Special teams, return touchdowns. Like...


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[Assistant] The Jets are like, oh crap, they're, they're harder to cover than Kelvin Austin in the NFL. That's bad news. Uh, how about the 49ers? What'd you think of the 49ers? No first round pick. They spent that on Trey Lance last year.


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[Assistant] Das Batlin wants to know, how do you think the, uh, pick, uh,


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[Assistant] Tyreon Davis Price will impact Debo's usage. So I'm kind of interested. Yea, Davis Price, they got Danny Gray, the wide receiver with the third round pick. Yea, he can fly. Like those two guys, how do they work in combination with Debo as, you know, replacements for Debo, offensively at least. It's a good question.


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[Assistant] There are some 49ers fans that need to be talked off a ledge because of uh, Deebo and how much he means to that offense and will he be a part of the team. There's another fan out there that also needs that same treatment. Kevin, or Keith Hart says, as a Patriots fan, I hate to say it, but we come to mind as draft losers. Not that these dudes can't be good.


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[Assistant] Uh, just seemed we reached a lot. Can you talk me off the ledge when it comes to the Patriots draft?


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[Assistant] It's a very deep running back draft. The top six was very good. Uh, your number one was Kenneth Walker, the third out of Michigan state who went to the Seahawks, 41st overall, second round. Uh, also in the second round, Boye Mafay. How do you think the Seahawks did?


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[Assistant] Instagram story, so Morgan put in this post up there. Uh, how would you grade your team's draft? 88% of the homies that follow you on Instagram.


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[Assistant] So everybody's happy. It's the time of the year. The future's bright. Like I said before, every team got better. Some teams got better by more, but every team


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[Assistant] So who would have thought, after a Chris Sims podcast, I'm driving down to Chris's house to pick something up, and it is two chickens.


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[Assistant] It is progress. It is a big day in a couple of things. Number one, it truly is the last day of school. Last day of school. This is it. This is it. Okay, and not quite as important is that it's my 21 year wedding anniversary today. Wow. 21. Wow, way to go.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm going to unload the chickens from the crate. Right. And make sure that they mesh with the other one. Right. Yeah. And then, uh, out to dinner with some friends.


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[Assistant] So I thought it was going to be just us, but I've been told there are other people there.


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[Assistant] Here's the deal. So, it's Mother's Day part two is how I look at it. Here's how I can help. I'm gonna be in the house today picking up chickens. I can like bring something up to your wife or your kids who are around to help steer it in the direction you want it to go in.


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[Assistant] Sweet 16. Thinking of 16, I've got my son getting his braces off and getting his license on Friday. Wow. Yea. How about that for a day?


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[Assistant] And before, before we get to me reading them, a little sound bite first. Go ahead, Matty.


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[Assistant] Shout out there to Joe, g-n-o-z-z-o-51. Joe sent us that pretty cool video back in November.


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[Assistant] What Alan did in that playoff game against a bad defense, Mahomes did even better against a damn good defense. What say you?


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[Assistant] Had I read these before, I would have looked up how much Cam was running back in the day, because I think, I did this for the USFL, because Jeff Fisher had Paxton Lynch, he was comparing Paxton Lynch to Josh Allen in the running game, and I went back and looked up, Josh was averaging, I don't know, seven or eight runs per game? Which is a lot. Was Cam running more than that? Probably. Was he up in the double digits?


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[Assistant] Alright, for your second quarterback, Patrick Mahomes, we have an assist here from a very special, uhm, Twitter.


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[Assistant] Too many Lees there. Due to a high standard that he has created, 2021 was his worst season as a starter, but no offseason due to the injury. Alan also had his share of bad games last year, and he had a full offseason.


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[Assistant] There's really not in my opinion. Did you have him in your mind number one before he was nearly perfect against New England in the postseason and was wonderful at Kansas City?


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[Assistant] There's also this feeling watching Josh at the end of the year. I mean, it's like, it's awesome and it feels like it's going up. Yes, right. And the Homes has been at this pretty awesome place for a while. Right, right. Not getting worse, but it doesn't feel like it's just rocketing to the next level like it might be with Alan.


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[Assistant] I think a lot of people probably, uh, who listen to the podcast know you're high on Justin Herbert, but even Justin at number three was probably a little bit of a surprise. One question here from at just go get them Jay. Chris, what do you think or who do you think had the best first two seasons in the league? Andrew Luck.


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[Assistant] Or Justin Herbert. I think one is the air personality of the other. That's an awesome question.


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[Assistant] Good question by Justin Go-Get-Em-Jae. Uhm. So we're talking about 2011, 2012 for Ish, for Andrew Luck. Was there more winning involved?


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[Assistant] And that's, I mean, that's a lot any time. But he had 23 and 23 years, one and two. Thank you Matt for that. Yeah.


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[Assistant] They didn't win as much as, like, the Colts won 11, they won 11-5, went to the AFC title game, like you mentioned.


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[Assistant] He's the quarterback too in the top 10 that people have probably seen the least. I know, you're right. They're not playing at 425.


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[Assistant] At Lambeau Field. They're not playing on Sunday Night Football. I know. Or at least they haven't. No, they will be now, but you're right. Yeah, I hope so.


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[Assistant] Warren Rogers at number five in a moment, but first now we have kind of Herbert at three compared to Burrow at four. Continue this with the help from, uh, Laura Stauffer one. Hey Chris, love the podcast. Why is Herbert ranked above Burrow if you had Burrow higher in the drafts and Burrow has had more proven success in the past season? I could argue Burrow's leadership and decision making puts him a notch above.


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[Assistant] This was on my mind and I really had the feeling from the time we spent here, I'm like, okay, Burl and Herbert are going to be in the top five. I didn't know which was going to be higher. I just wondered, I wonder what Chris is going to have as the difference maker.


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[Assistant] More on Rodgers, you just kind of walked us right to that. No problemo. Jared Krause asks, does anyone carry the team more than Aaron Rodgers? Missed one game and his team went scoreless at Kansas City, uh, through three and a half quarters against the Chiefs defense that was giving up 30 points per game at the time. Great point.


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[Assistant] Where would you have had Aaron after the regular season? Because I think we both agreed it was an MVP type season. Before that playoff game where it was just a giant dud.


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[Assistant] It really shined a light on the way they won. It did. The way they played. Exactly. During the regular season. Yes. Like, I was hoping you would say that. Yeah. Because to me, it matters. When you're a person, when you're the MVP,


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[Assistant] And you're kind of flirting with that style of ball. It's like, wait a second. There's not much margin for error. Exactly. And then it really comes to light in the postseason. I think it's fair a few months later when we're rating the quarterbacks to really count that heavily.


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[Assistant] He was the regular season MVP, and uh, we go to points bet here.


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[Assistant] Think about the MVP for this year. And unlike the top 40, the supporting cast does matter a lot for the MVP. So who would you put your money on this season as we take a look at the odds from points bet here for the 2022 MVP? The top two guys are always going to be on my list.


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[Assistant] That's top six. That's Mahomes, Allen, Brady Rogers, Herbert Burrow. Gotta mention those guys. Everybody else you see on the list. You're number one.


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[Assistant] Two running backs on there. We had Jonathan Taylor and Derek Henry now. Not going there yet. Sorry slugger. Hey, download the points bet app use code NBC2K to sign up. You get two risk-free bets up to $2,000. That's right. Listen to what Paul says.


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[Assistant] Live your bet life with points bet. One month from today, Chris, I'm going to be without this podcast. I'm going to be on like stage 95 of the Tour de France. Will you, will you just call me and just like read that? Just wax poetically so you can just feel good.


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[Assistant] You know, like late morning, early afternoon. Yeah, yeah. Viva la France. You'll be up and rolling. Okay. Number six, Matthew Stafford. Yeah. This is from Richard Duthy, NFL. Short-term memory regarding Stafford. He threw a game-ending interception that was dropped in the NFC championship. What the? The momentum would have poured and would have won the game.


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[Assistant] I think in every game, week two meaningless, big game like that, every quarterback has one to three balls that probably could have been picked.


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[Assistant] That is strictly pocket quarterback will never be in your top five. Other than running, he is pretty much A++ on everything else. Basically the perfect pocket quarterback if I had to design one.


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[Assistant] Let's combine Dak Prescott at 9, Lamar Jackson at 10. This is from at quote the Ravens. If you put Dak Prescott on the Ravens, they're a markedly worse football team. If you put Lamar Jackson on the Cowboys, they're Super Bowl contenders.


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[Assistant] Little bit more on Lamar from at jrcio13. I love Lamar and how electrifying his game is, but if he was a free agent, do you think that most of the league would try and sign him to replace their current quarterback and change the offense to fit him?


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[Assistant] If the Vikings had that choice, I mean, Mr. Efficient, Mr. Solid, gonna make a lot of good decisions, be competitive.


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[Assistant] And even more on Lamar, the kind of topic here Chris is number one potential. Okay. It's from at Taylor for Cy Young. Is Lamar the lowest quarterback in your rankings with the possibility for becoming number one? And again, he's ranked at number 10. That's, that's a really


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[Assistant] These comparison ones where we're bringing two quarterbacks together are really fun. So let's go to number 12, Caller Murray, 18 Mack Jones. This is from at Jason Baumgartner. If you were an NFL coach and your goal was to win a Super Bowl, would you rather have Mack Jones or Caller Murray?


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[Assistant] And some of his abilities. The range we saw of him last year. The range of awesome and the range of what was bad.


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[Assistant] Thinking about it on a baseball level, with Kyler, it's like, okay, home run potential? Yeah, it's great.


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[Assistant] Let's see if you're in the Fitzpatrick Pond here, okay? Ryan Fitzpatrick, this is from at joebucksfan. If you had one game to win, would you take a healthy 39 year old Ryan Fitzpatrick ahead of quarterbacks 21 through 40, if we could dial up 21 through 40?


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[Assistant] We could take a peek at those guys and maybe throw out some names and see if anybody tempts you.


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[Assistant] Should we revisit the Miami Tua or Fitzpatrick? I mean, it's there. He's at 29.


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[Assistant] Switch gears here a little bit. We're still taking questions. We're gonna go outside the quarterback range here a little bit. Cool. Favorite receivers. This is from at the Chad Barnett. I'm sorry, I added an N there. At the Chad Barrett. Barrett. That's the right Chad. What was your favorite type of receiver to throw to? Speed guys, big guys, or route runners?


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[Assistant] One of the fun things about this pod is that we kind of get into the weeds a lot with the quarterback stuff. This is, this is way into the weeds with a nice assist from Atvish Kumaran.


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[Assistant] A non-ranking question, but can you talk about shotgun stances? I noticed Trey Lance is now staggered with his left foot forward after being a feet even guy last year. This seems to be something Shanahan prefers with his quarterbacks left foot forward. Could you tell us why?


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[Assistant] Remember back in the late 80s, early 90s from under center, Dan Reno used to like, it was the greatest back, right? He was about to get the snap and he would shift his feet in his body. Right, right. Cause he was getting so slow.


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[Assistant] McDaniels was head coach in Denver in 2009-ish, didn't last very long. I was there. Okay, you were there. I was there in Denver. And then you were with him in New England. Right. Right after that. Right. Ten years ago. How do you think he's evolved the most since then?


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[Assistant] Alright, a little non-football here from John James Wilkin. Who's your favorite non-football athlete?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna open this up and say you can go all time. It doesn't have to be right now.


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[Assistant] So when Magic Johnson was at Michigan State in the late 70s, when they won the whole thing. So in Iowa City, where I grew up, there was an old field house where they used to play. About, you know, in the same building, on the other side of the building, there was a little gym called the North Gym. And the teams would come in and practice at the North Gym. And my dad would bring me over because my dad used to work out close to it. And back then you could do it if you wanted to. So we were in the North Gym.


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[Assistant] Judd Heathcote is there chewing ass on all the players. That's crazy. There were two guys at a hoop by themselves, like while the real practice was going on.


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[Assistant] I forget which Vincent was there with Magic, and then Magic, they did whatever they wanted to on the other end of the court the whole time. I was like, Dad, those other two guys.


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[Assistant] It's amazing what a, what a star he is here. I mean, he's highly respected everywhere. I've lived in other parts of the country and like Derek Jeter here is like times a thousand. And I know he played, yeah, but it's like the, the star factor. I mean, in my town, people have dogs named Jeter. They have kids named Jeter. It's out of hand.


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[Assistant] That's where my mind went. Good time to move on to this is titled Glory Days from at JDM415. If you could replay and relive any game you've played before, what game would it be?


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[Assistant] Isn't it crazy, and it's almost kind of sad, because there was a lot of good, that how the mind just is stuck when it's over on God I wish I had that game back. I want to change the outcome. So much more than all that


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[Assistant] Alright, Liam Kerwin says, I love you dude, but my wife Tara for some reason loves to rip on you. Okay, I like how this one's going. Please educate her on why you're great to listen to. Maybe I should listen, maybe I listen to too much football talk and she gets tired of it probably, but you still deserve better Chris. I do deserve better.


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[Assistant] Stop putting me in this position. Yeah, Liam Kerwin is in trouble. Damn you Liam.


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[Assistant] That's it, my man. That was it? That's it. Woooo! That is it. That's a season. That's a season.


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[Assistant] I guess people who don't have endorsements, they only make their money from tournaments.


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[Assistant] I'm sponsored by ASICS at the moment. They send you a package of clothes to wear at different tournaments.


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[Assistant] That moment made Nazaré, a small town on the coast of Portugal, home to the biggest wave ever surfed.


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[Assistant] And over the past decade, many surfers have come here to make their own attempts at a world record. Even at the risk of their lives.


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[Assistant] But for a long time, these waters weren't at the heart of an extreme sport. They were driving an entirely different culture for centuries. A culture that's changing dramatically today.


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[Assistant] A couple of years ago, Tony went viral for one particular wave, estimated to be 101 feet tall.


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[Assistant] It's that extreme danger and the rush that comes with it.


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[Assistant] That led to the discipline of big wave surfing 70 years ago.


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[Assistant] Big wave surfing began in Hawaii, where for a long time the sport had been limited to waves less than 10 feet.


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[Assistant] That inspired many surfers to scour the globe for bigger and bigger waves. And they found them.


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[Assistant] A place with the perfect conditions that could generate waves larger than anyone had ever imagined.


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[Assistant] When a storm moves over the ocean, its winds hit the surface, resulting in pulses of energy called swells, which eventually become waves.


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[Assistant] Some of the most powerful storms form over the Pacific and southern oceans, which send swells to places like Hawaii and Australia. The North Atlantic has similar storms that send powerful swells barreling towards Nazaré between October and April.


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[Assistant] The canyon that sits beneath the surface, just off the coast, sets Nazaré apart from every other big wave spot. It begins here, then runs for 230 kilometers right up to Nazaré's beach. It's half the length of the Grand Canyon, but nearly three times as deep at its deepest point.


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[Assistant] So how does this canyon lead to giant waves?


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[Assistant] From that point here, the canyon plunges in depth remarkably quickly. Over here, the water is just 20 meters deep.


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[Assistant] But right over here, the canyon is 200 meters deep, the length of a 60-story building. This difference has a major effect on incoming swells. When a swell approaches Nazaré, it hits the canyon and gets split in two. The part in this shallow water slows down.


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[Assistant] But the part inside the canyon continues to move fast and turns inward, towards the canyon wall.


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[Assistant] When it hits that wall, it's suddenly forced upwards, resulting in a big wave.


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[Assistant] But when that coincides with the slow swell, the result is a humongous wave.


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[Assistant] So, why did it take so long for big wave surfers to find Nazaré?


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[Assistant] But for centuries, Nazare did have a unique culture. One that was also shaped by these waves.


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[Assistant] Fishing sustained Nazareans for generations, but it also required many to risk their lives.


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[Assistant] But despite the dangers, fishing continued to be Nazare's main industry. Until the mid 20th century, when it began a slow decline. Largely because the fish populations were dwindling.


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[Assistant] The drop in fish populations forced Nazareans to turn to a different source of income, which came from here. Pride to Nazare.


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[Assistant] In the summers, Nazaré's waters were calm, and this beach attracted a lot of tourists.


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[Assistant] But these tourists only came in the summer, so Nazaré needed a boost in the winter. And they found it on the other side of town, Praia da Norte.


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[Assistant] Forbidden because of the monstrous waves that launch out of the canyon here in the winter.


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[Assistant] But that changed in the early 2000s when some locals who had been body surfing in these waters recognized the thrill in riding these waves and inspired them to look for someone who was willing to try and surf them.


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[Assistant] Over the next few years, big wave surfers increasingly came to Nazaré. In 2017, Brazilian surfer Rodrigo Cotcha beat McNamara's record by surfing this 80 foot wave.


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[Assistant] And in 2018, another Brazilian, Maya Gabriela, set the women's world record here on this 68 foot wave. Then set it again in 2020.


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[Assistant] Today, 5 out of the 6 biggest waves ever surfed happened at Nazaré. And it's led to a rise in tourism year by year.


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[Assistant] Driven by people visiting in the winter to watch big wave surfing.


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[Assistant] In less than a decade, Nazaré became the new capital of big wave surfing. But all this success has come with complications.


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[Assistant] This is Joao Delgado, a former fisherman who's now a politician.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's right, baby. Rule breakers. Rules were meant to be broken. That's right. Welcome to NBC. Chris Sims on button. Boom. And it'll be real news. I mean, come on, me swearing. I mean, shocker. That's what I do. I mean, I say hello to you in a lot of ways with swears, as you know.


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[Assistant] That's where I was going to go. Let's get to real news. Doesn't really swear. No, it doesn't swear off camera. So it'll be real news or it's going to be a prize or something baked into the podcast at some point or a bet you're going to have to pay. Where you're going to have to say a swear.


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[Assistant] Okay, so that's okay. We'll take that. Yeah, but our used Memorial Day!


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[Assistant] I'm all about candy being thrown from the people of the parade and then you scramble on the side of the road to get your candy, right?


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[Assistant] Questionable town you live in right there. Everything else sounds good.


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[Assistant] 50 cent hot dogs. Yeaah. Wow. That's pretty good. I mean, that is. That's like, there's no such thing anymore, really. No, inflation now? You're not getting that. I mean, even the crappy hot dogs you buy in the corner of like 33rd and 7th street in New York are not 50 cents. Yeaah, a dollar or two dollars maybe. Probably three at this point. Right, for the water dogs.


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[Assistant] We got some good ones today, we're gonna take some questions from the homies, and then we have Ahmed Fareed, Super Brawl Countdown. And let me just tell you, if you think my quarterback list wasn't good last year,


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[Assistant] Go look at Omid's, uh, Super Braw rankings last year. He had some questionable rankings. Very questionable, very questionable. So we'll have fun with that today. We will, we will. That'll be a lot of fun.


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[Assistant] That's cool, that's way more than I thought. I'm shocked. I mean, it's, uh, it's, you know, it's flattering, is what I want to say.


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[Assistant] And we got, from what I understand, we got a number of people, top fives, right? Top five, we got a number of people. Top six, we got a few. Yes. Top seven, I think there's one or two. Right. But nobody to the top ten yet. Did you discuss this already, or did I miss this? No, no, no. I was reading something on our rundown, and then I was like, wait, did I miss something you said?


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[Assistant] We're gonna find ways to give love to anybody who gets top ten and even if you just got the top five.


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[Assistant] Top six, top seven. We're going to give you a shout out for sure. Nonetheless. So don't worry. That's coming.


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[Assistant] I'm pretty happy. Well, I think I am. You know, there's always, well, you know me. Why pretty happy? You know me. I keep it real with myself, always. I feel like I've...


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[Assistant] I do have less regrets than maybe years past. I've tinkered less as we've gone along. Like, Pete has my whole list. But sometimes I get down to, oh wait, it's now we're going to do, you know, 25 through 21. He'll ask me, like, you sure you want this still to be orders? Or you want to switch 24 and 25 or whatever there?


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[Assistant] I, we did, we did have a little of that today a little bit, right? We have one of those, and I'll tell you when that time comes here. But certainly, uhm, yeaah, I've had


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[Assistant] It's me and my psycho brain and I stress about this and I was stressing about it yesterday during Memorial Day and I'm even talking to my family about it. Okay. But yes, you know, there was some at the end that I always find myself questioning my 35 through 40 because it's so nitpicky. It's usually some young guys, some backups and that can be tough.


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[Assistant] I won't lie, our last podcast I had with the rookies, alright, that's another one that I look at and go.