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[Assistant] A thumping middle linebacker at the end of round three. Round three, the Ravens killed it. They got three guys that will really contribute to their football team right off the bat. So I got to give Eric DeCosta and the rest of the Ravens organization a standing ovation for what they did once again.


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[Assistant] Well, eh, you're exactly right. And they have a special eye for offensive talent. I mean...


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[Assistant] Baltimore's got one of the biggest, most powerful offensive lines in football. Yeah, because they're just one of those teams like Mike Zimmer with DBs or, you know, the Pittsburgh Steelers with wide receiver or Andy Reed with offensive linemen. Baltimore the same way. It's like they got a tree in the back that's like just growing big, big.


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[Assistant] It's killer, it's killer. with those tight ends, that run game, J.K. Dobbins, the offensive line, Hollywood Brown, and I really think DuVernay can be like almost a Debo Samuel-ish type player. You know, a lot of balls over the middle, fearless that way. Here's a speed sweep, here's a reverse.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, you know, Paul, to your point, which you made back on Friday, Baltimore always has a plan. They know what they're trying to build as a football team. They don't ever seem to vary away from that. And that's why they're usually one of the cream of the crop teams in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, they were phenomenal. I mean, Chris Ballard is, he's a genius. I mean, there is no denying that Chris Ballard is one of the best GMs in the NFL. And...


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[Assistant] That's what they got. Right, exactly right. And, I'll one up you with what you said about them.


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[Assistant] I really loved the kid. I thought he was like a Rodney McClown, Sean Davis type talent. Extremely athletic, ex-corner. And then even to take the flyer on the quarterback. Not a flyer, but to get Jacob Eason.


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[Assistant] You know, again, I think this will be Jacobi Berset's last year with the Colts. Uh, maybe, maybe it goes on longer, I don't know, but you take a guy like Jacob Easton who has big time talent and a big time arm to where


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[Assistant] Hey, we'll see how it goes. Maybe this guy's our starting quarterback two years from now. And I think there's, that's a good thought as well. So I'm with you. The Colts, I thought, they didn't make my top five, Paul, but they were on my list of about eight or nine that I wrote down.


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[Assistant] No, it's a really cool thing. I mean, dreams came true for a lot of kids, and Blackman's a guy who was a corner at Utah, had a little injury, and then they moved him to safety, and Paul...


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[Assistant] Like No Joke was one of my favorite watches in the draft.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go number two, okay, a little biased here, but I'm gonna go with the San Francisco 49ers, alright? Okay. I am, because, uh, not necessarily the depth of their draft, but


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[Assistant] You know, at pick 14, they traded down one spot from 13 to 14 and swapped with the buck.


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[Assistant] Shanahan gets one of his favorite receivers in the draft in Brandon Aiyu, who I know he looks at as being like Isaac Bruce.


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[Assistant] And they were three desperate needs for this football team. I mean, they needed to be addressed in a big way. So that to me, even though it wasn't a lot of picks,


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[Assistant] They crushed it with three different players that really filled some major holes on their roster. And not just like filled them, I think filled them in an extraordinary fashion with big time talent.


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[Assistant] Ayuk was certainly a first round receiver and maybe I'm not as high on him as my friend Kyle Shanahan is, but I bow to Kyle when it comes to receivers. He's got an incredible eye for talent there.


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[Assistant] And then to pull off a Trent Williams trade for just the third and fifth round pick when


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[Assistant] You know, also, I'm adding this in, Joe Staley, obviously they knew he was gonna retire.


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[Assistant] Yeah, agreed. You know, and, and just, so I'll just continue. That's my number three team.


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[Assistant] Just so we go. So, you made them two, I'm making them number three. I mean...


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[Assistant] Give it to the poor, okay? They, you know, first off, you hit the top two. Denzel Mims has a chance to be a superstar. I mean, he does. I think he plays to his 4-3 speed that we, on film.


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[Assistant] You know, it sounds like he played last year with a broken hand.


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[Assistant] You know, got a warm, cozy spot on that roster in New York, so I think he could be the replacement there.


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[Assistant] Jabari Zuniga, who we talked about earlier already, to get him later on in the third round for a team that has a desperate need for pass rushing skill, this guy could be something. He's got a chance.


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[Assistant] La Michael Perrine, they're running back from Florida. I really liked him. You're gonna see him get some carries this year. And then in round four to get the quarterback that we already talked about in James Morgan.


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[Assistant] You know, that was the right, you got Sam Darnold, you're good, you know, I understand, you know, they got, uh, uh, David Phales as their other backup. They needed to address that. I think it's very...


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[Assistant] Scary to go into the season with David Fails as your backup. Morgan's got big time talent and you might be able to turn him into something before it all said and done and you got him in the fourth round. So I love the Jet Strap. I'm with you, Paul, all the way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they did. You're okay to add Stefan Diggs to that. I mean, you're right. They traded away a first round pick. So that's part of their draft. I mean, that's what they used it for. And I'm with you there.


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[Assistant] Buffalo, it was. They're not gonna make my top five, Paul, but damn, they were really close. I mean, they were one of those teams that I was going, damn, I love this draft.


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[Assistant] You're right. At Panessa, he's perfect for Buffalo. Man, does Buffalo have some defensive line in front seven? Not only just the starters, the depth is phenomenal. You hit on Zach Moss. I think he's made for that offense. I really do. He's in between the tackles.


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[Assistant] They always have a plan. They know what they're trying to do there in Buffalo and they understand the team they're trying to build and they never deviate from that and I respect that greatly.


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[Assistant] I'm going with the Dallas Cowboys. I am. I know we mentioned them earlier.


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[Assistant] Alright, I probably could have made this team a little higher. It was really hard for me actually in this. But when you get CD Lamb at 17, you're starting corner at 51 and dig.


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[Assistant] What I think is going to be a starting defensive tackle and game wrecker in Neville Gallimore in round three, along with the center from Wisconsin who I don't know a great deal about. I watched him a little bit.


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[Assistant] Uh, not that they need this guy to start right now, but I saw enough to know, ooh, this guy has a chance to be a starter for the Dallas Cowboys in the next two to three years.


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[Assistant] You know, I really like what Dallas did, and even the round five pick Bradley and I, who I thought was one of the better pass rushers out of Utah.


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[Assistant] That offense, now, you know, they went from like, woah.


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[Assistant] This was the number one offense in football last year. Am I correct about that? They certainly, yes, they were the number one offense in football and you add CD Lamb to the mix.


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[Assistant] Alright, my number five goes to the, uh, the new group. The new guys on the block. The Carolina Panthers. Alright, I'm gonna give the Carolina Panthers some love here. You know,


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[Assistant] He's really just a bigger version of Warren Sapp. I think he's that special of a player. Alright, but then to get Yider Gros Matos in round two. Again, here's a team that had a theme about size, length, physicality. They were going to stick to it.


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[Assistant] I think perfect fit as a nickelback for the Carolina Panthers ran like a 4-3. So I just look at them and go.


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[Assistant] No doubt. And, you know, Matt Ruhl, I think we saw, now, this is a guy that's very good friends with Bill Parcell, alright.


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[Assistant] They were full of big people. My dad's come on the podcast before where he's heard Bill Parcells, you know, they're not sure to keep player A or player B. And he would literally just say, it's really cool. So let's just keep the bigger.


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[Assistant] Let's keep the big dude out there. We'll just keep him in a tie. And Matt Ruhl showed that, you know, with the defensive tackle, the defensive end, Jeremy Chin to your point.


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[Assistant] He certainly has an eye for talent and knows I think how to build a program or an NFL football team.


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[Assistant] A lot of big dudes, linebackers that are 255 pounds.


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[Assistant] They're that way. They believe in size. They're gonna try to beat you up physically that way. You know, the New England Patriots are still big believers. Of course, the Bill Belichick, the same way. So it is always an interesting discussion between do you believe in


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[Assistant] Speed and creating chaos out on the football field. You can win either way. There's plenty of examples of either way. I tend to lean on the side side, uh, but certainly, but certainly, you know, had been on some teams. I in Tampa, we were a speed team and you can, you can win that way. I just, I prefer sides.


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[Assistant] Phil, thank you. It's good to hear your voice again. It's been a little while. Been looking forward to this, hanging out with you a little bit. And once I saw the top of the show that Chris accidentally did not swear on his last show, first of all, Chris, we're still, we still have the streak.


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[Assistant] Yeah, throws it pretty well. And I was hoping to come down. I texted you right before everything changed about coming down and watching the quarterbacks together, maybe bringing a boy down to throw, but obviously.


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[Assistant] That's not an option right now, so when some normalcy comes back, I'll be showing up at your house, for sure.


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[Assistant] Phil getting sent out on the bat signal out there across giant country. There it is right there. And Phil, the first thing I thought of, you look like Jim McMahon back on the 1985 Bears right there. Chris, what do you think?


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[Assistant] Phil, you turned down a chance to go play, play golf with Jordan and LT. I'm wondering what you had to do that day that you couldn't go down there and hang out with those guys.


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[Assistant] Alright, well Phil, I think we're gonna keep the, keep some of these stories going here. I've got a list of Ask Me Anything questions here from social we've collected, uh, for you and for Chris. We start with...


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[Assistant] Who says, what was Chris and Phil's welcome to the NFL moment? And Phil, I think you started the interest here last week by talking about going against the steel curtain in preseason way back in the day.


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[Assistant] I can remember, I remember getting hit for the first time that was like a real college hit. Like it was full speed in practice, which it was all the time back then. And just one of those big linemen coming through and hitting me. I was running the option. I forget what team I was emulating down there on the scout team, but somebody came through and put their head down and hit me in the chin.


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[Assistant] And it gave me something to think about for three or four days. I mean, not three or four minutes, but three or four days. I thought about what I was doing and if this is something I really want to want to keep doing, but that's, uh, that's all it was.


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[Assistant] I also recall, I recall, and you guys will appreciate this, at minicamp, my one and only minicamp with the Vikings.


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[Assistant] It was just helmets, no pads. And I remember feeling like a little sigh of relief in the meeting room, like, okay, we're just going to kind of ease into this. We're going to go out there, maybe half speed, three quarter speed.


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[Assistant] And I remember walking from Winter Park through the, the weight room, through the meeting room and opening that door to the indoor practice facility. And there was a defensive end and an offensive tackle going full speed. Like it was a game before practice even started with no pads on. And I remember that moment very well thinking what.


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[Assistant] This is from Chad Barrett. He said, uh, what is your biggest or most frivolous purchase from your playing days, Chris? I'm looking forward to hearing this. And Phil, you can think about yours and jump in on the back end too.


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[Assistant] Uh, Chad's got another one, and this is more, this is more football related, guys. Uh, Chad says, out of all the quarterbacks available, this free agency and the draft, why did the Colts decide to pay old man, no armed rivers, his words, not mine, over cheaper options like Jamis, Dalton, et cetera, or potentially better options like camp?


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[Assistant] I don't agree with that. What do you think guys? Chris, what do you think?


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[Assistant] I think Phil brings up two really good points too. There's a lot of good stuff in there, Phil, but if I could carve out two words, it's fearless and anticipation. I was going to say he's a courageous thrower who makes a habit out of throwing it on time and even ahead of time, but those are two words you can't attach to a lot of quarterbacks. And I know he's getting up there in age.


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[Assistant] But in addition to the reliability, he's not afraid to cut it loose down the field and he throws it before those receivers get out of cuts as well as any, any quarterback in the league. So I, uh, I don't want to be too much of a fan here, but I think he has a lot to bring to that offensive and I'm excited to see it in a new place.


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[Assistant] Completely agree. It looks different right away, but I mean, I lost that feeling of kind of wondering what he was doing back in 2006 when he became the full-time starter and started playing really, really well.


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[Assistant] Yes he did. You guys ready for one more? One more Asp. Yeah, there we go. This is an interesting one from Nate Doggy Dog.


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[Assistant] As a fellow lefty, Chris, would that affect the Dolphins coaching with Tua? Let's say he's a backup that gets put in the starting lineup midway. Can the offense easily adjust to a lefty after almost every other thing is right-hand bias?


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[Assistant] Speaking of Midsfield, back in uh, in 94, I was at the combine, I met with the quarterback coach of the Jets named Walt Harris. Remember Walt? Oh, sure. Okay, so I think Gumer.


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[Assistant] This will make sense to both of you guys then. So back in 94, before he was calling you.


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[Assistant] I met with him at the combine and he's like, like what you do, but I'm really, you know, after spending time with Boomer, I'm really only interested in the lefties right now. And I'm like, well, why is that? And he goes, well, you're going to see it. You're going to see it a lot in the next few years. The ball comes into the receiver in a much better way. It cuts through the wind better. The way it spins, it's better for everybody. I was like,


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[Assistant] It spins better, it gets the receiver better, it's a more friendly ball. I mean, anything you could think of, Walt would just step down with the lefties, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I do. I don't think it's make or break. I will say kind of, it kind of goes on the end of what Chris was talking about.


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[Assistant] It's a very important year for him in the sense that he caught a lot of attention to himself, whether it was the commercials or the brash way he plays and really conducts himself after games. I think there's a lot of attention on him, but he's way too talented in


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[Assistant] Too close to being way too good for this to be a make or break year. So attention on him.


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[Assistant] Yes, does he need to grow up a little bit in every possible way when it comes to being a quarterback of the NFL team? Yes, but he's way too good to be in a make or break year.


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[Assistant] So, a bunch of things, and it's been a while since I've hung out with you and your dad.


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[Assistant] Number one, I like listening to your dad because I think what comes through, what he just said, he sees the good, he sees the potential in all these prospects and teams. He just loves it and he has a lot of knowledge into some of the negative things that can happen, but he's a positive guy about football and it's fun to be around.


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[Assistant] And all of his quarterback stuff, like I can pick out little bit of things where as much as I watch him and think I know, like he sums it up well. We talked about Philip Rivers.


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[Assistant] He's a fearless thrower. I'm like, I was going to call him courageous, but fearless is even better. Talked about Baker Mayfield overthrowing and like, that's something we can all relate to when we watch him like, yeah, he was overthrown. He was gripping the club a little too hard and trying to hit it 350 yards and just like summing it up with Drew Locke.


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[Assistant] His talent is easy to see. Yeah, there's a lot of ways you can go with that. We all wonder where it's gonna go, but his talent is easy to see when he comes on the field. So, uh, I should have said this when your dad was on. Maybe I can call him later, but I can always pick things out. I can always pick things out from him.


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[Assistant] You know who loved your dad? You probably know this, but my first three years at NFL Network, I worked out of NFL Films and the late, great Steve Sable loved Phil Simms. He had great Phil stories, great respect for him. I think he had so many wires where Bill and Phil were arguing. I think he was A, entertained and B, kind of,


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[Assistant] Had to have a lot of respect for Phil for the way he kind of battled through that and dealt with it. But that's a guy who loved football who thought the world of your dad too.


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[Assistant] How old were you when you were going to games before you realized, wow, my dad is the quarterback of the New York Giants. This is amazing. Were you four? Were you eight? Like how old? I was four.


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[Assistant] But also a pretty cool thing. And it sounds like you got most out of it too. Definitely. We have a fun task today. We are going to redraft the top 10.


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[Assistant] Of the 2017 draft and one of the reasons we're doing this, I mean, it's fun for any class, but this class, especially at the top was in the news this week because a number of these guys haven't really worked out the way teams wanted to in the top 10 and we're seeing it in the cold hard facts because a lot of them.


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[Assistant] The contracts or their options are not being exercised, uh, for the fifth year. And that's, um, it's a pretty good indication that teams aren't getting what they thought or what they hope they were going to get when they took them that hot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's five of the team, five of the 10, the options were not exercised. So we are going to redraft this top 10.


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[Assistant] Right. This exercise for me, Chris, I don't know how it was for you, but was all at once really fun. It was really hard. I stayed up way later than I should have last night trying to figure out who to give to each team in this top 10. So that this was a fun one to go through and I'm excited to hear your picks as well. At number one, I'm giving myself the first shot.


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[Assistant] That works. I think we can each kind of give an explanation here as we, as we, uh, rattle off these picks. No surprise at number one. And to be honest, I don't think there's going to be any surprise at number two either. But Cleveland Browns, I am giving them Patrick Mahomes, uh, and that's, uh, without a second thought.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they, the Browns did take Miles Garrett, who has had a nice career, but I think they would much rather have Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] Just as easy for me, number two, Chicago Bears, crazy that they took Trubisky when they could have had it. It's easy in hindsight, but then it's painful looking back thinking they could have had Mahomes or Watson. But at number two, I'm giving them to Sean Watson.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I knew we were gonna have the same at one and two. I mean, who wouldn't have gone Mahomes and then Watson? Gonna be a lot of variation here now as we hit San Francisco.


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[Assistant] At three. Back in 17, they took Solomon Thomas defensive tackle. I think they'd like to have a redo. I thought long and hard about this one and I feel badly because I'm giving them the pick they found in the 100, so they should get credit for that. But if I didn't give them George Kittle and I see how much he means to that offense,


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[Assistant] Somebody else here in the top 5 or 6 would have had him. I just didn't feel right about that. So, I know they got him in the 5th round, but I am going with San Francisco number 3, George Kilcoyne.


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[Assistant] Also fits with the theme that you and I talked about a lot with San Francisco, a lot of good players everywhere, but the calling card is that defensive line, so that would have fit in there very well. It would fit, right, right.


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[Assistant] For sure. Jacksonville at number four. You mentioned Leonard Fournette. He's been a decent player. All in all, maybe not worth the number four pick. If they wanted a running back though, I'm going to go with Christian McCaffrey.


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[Assistant] Out of the running back position. So yes, the production is really good, but just a difficulty in prep. It's a different kind of prep than they get the rest of the weeks. I think it's a, it's a home run there to go McCaffrey at four.


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[Assistant] Works for me, and I'm trying to think of a different way to word this because you just talked about them for a whole minute, but at five, Tennessee, they did take Corey Davis, yikes, wide receiver.


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[Assistant] I'm going with Jamal Adams. And just to add on to what you just said, when I penciled him in, I went and Googled the depth chart for Tennessee to see who they had at safety. And I stopped myself. I'm like, you know what? It doesn't matter. He's better than everybody else they have at that position. And even if they had two studs, safety is like cornered now.


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[Assistant] You can't have enough. I mean, to have three on the field at one time is just fine and you can play a linebacker hybrid like you just said. So uhm, you put it very well. My best point is I called off my search on who they already have because I know he's better than whoever else is there right now.


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[Assistant] Alright, getting to the second half of the top ten, the Jets, they did a nice job in the actual draft of 2017, taking Jamal Adams. We've already drafted him twice here, so he's even better than number six in our eyes. So Jets.


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[Assistant] I thought about their offense and I went back to our notes. We did so many pre-drafts podcasts Chris and the thing I had written down about the Jets more often than any other nugget.


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[Assistant] Was fewest points in the AFC last year and they had their quarterback. We'd like to see Sam Darnold healthy. I almost went with one of the very good running backs in this class and both of them are going to show up for me later in the bottom half of this top 10. But offensive line is also a big need for them.


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[Assistant] Hopefully their first round pick from Louisville, Beckton works out for them. But had they gone Ryan Ramchek, who went with the last pick in this draft in 2017 to the Saints, they could have gone elsewhere. So I'm going with the offensive tackle, who's been a complete stud for Drew Brees and Sean Payton. Really, really good pick.


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[Assistant] Chris, I'm going to take you all the way back to about five minutes ago. Remember the transition from four to five when you went Jamal Adams four to Jacksonville? I went Jamal Adams five to Tennessee.


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[Assistant] You just mentioned, I will add that I like my pick or my placement of him to the chargers a little bit better because I think about the linebacker trio there.


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[Assistant] With the Chargers, Kenneth Murray, first round pick they just took. We both like Drew Tranquil a whole lot.


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[Assistant] You put him in there with those two and Derwin James behind him, sometimes next to him, maybe even in front of him. You can use a safety number different ways. So I applaud your pick of TJ Wadded 6. I like mine a little bit better. TJ Wadded 7.


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[Assistant] You sound like, you sound like you went into a hole. I can, I can, you look the same.


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[Assistant] Yes they did, and he's gone in both of our drafts, so I stayed at running back.


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[Assistant] I put Dalvin Cook, when he's healthy, right on the same line as Christian McCaffrey. He started 14 games last year. His numbers weren't quite Christian McCaffrey-like, but they were in the same neighborhood. And I just think about that game in New Orleans, that playoff game they won. I think he had more than 30 touches when you go pass and run game. Just a complete stud when he's healthy.


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[Assistant] Carolina doesn't get McCaffrey like they have in real life, but Dalvin Cook isn't so bad.


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[Assistant] The real bangles went John Ross. They would like a pass to do that one again. And I went back through my list of 1 through 8, Chris, and I saw how heavy it was on offense. And I looked at, there's some incredible corners in defensive backs.


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[Assistant] In this draft, so I figure, well, I better, I better take one of these defensive backs and give them to somebody here at nine or ten. So at nine for the Bengals, I went to Adidas Wide Corner. Ooh, good one, good one.


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[Assistant] It brings to mind, I wanted to say something about Baltimore and how well they've drafted while you and your dad were talking, but the moment was gone and the next topic was up and I didn't get to it.


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[Assistant] Joe Ortiz, not a name we hear a lot about, but I think he's director of college scouting. He's number two to Eric. He's been there forever as well. And Harbs has been there for over a decade as well, so.


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[Assistant] There's something to be said for guys that not only know it and do it well, but they've been together for a long time. Same thing in Pittsburgh with Kevin Colbert and Mike Tomlin. And I think they have that going so well for themselves in Baltimore. One of the many reasons that they draft guys like Humphrey.


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[Assistant] You just look elsewhere in their division, look at how much turnover for GM and head coach and really quarterback as well when you look at the bottom of that division in Cleveland. And there's a lot of reasons that go into them being down there, but the lack of continuity at the important spots I think has a lot to do with it. Okay, Kansas City.


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[Assistant] At 10. And I'm a bit of a hypocrite here, Chris, because we just spent about six weeks talking about


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[Assistant] How important cornerbacks are, and if you've got a great one, take them. And I'm looking at Lattimore, I'm looking at Humphrey for the Chiefs, and I'm like, well, I can't give them both to Kansas City. Both of those guys deserve to be in the top 10.


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[Assistant] I'm going to ignore both of them, my apologies, because I want to see Alvin Kamara with Andy Reid. So I went running back there for the Chiefs just like they did this year with their final pick of the first.


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[Assistant] One thing I always think of now, Chris, when I think of Kamara, a couple years ago for, for Football Night America, I was at a Saints game. And I, you know, when you're at these games, you get to spend some time down in the field.


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[Assistant] And running backs, not as much as quarterbacks, but running backs, you just get a different sense when you're down there watching him. And he just glides. He glides from one spot to the next with a nice explosive cut. And just like Brian Westbrook used to give me the sense,


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[Assistant] Things like a quarterback, like he's just calm with the way he's processing information and understanding what each situation needs. And my level of respect and admiration just went way up when I saw him on the field because he reminded me.


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[Assistant] of Westbrook. And I remembered how much I love watching Westbrook with that offense with Andy Reid. And it seemed like that would be a fun one to watch together.


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[Assistant] That was a fun exercise. That was worth staying up for last night. Maybe.


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[Assistant] Maybe in these next weeks, unless there's some big time news that comes up, which can happen in the off season, maybe we can hit the 15 and 16 draft as well.


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[Assistant] They haven't wavered a whole lot, even as this thing has ebbed and flowed and evolved. They've, anytime that we've gotten a message from them, it's that there's going to be football. And just as a fan, this is the first time in a while, the first week in a while where it's been really encouraging.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's hard to predict exactly what it's gonna look like, but there's been more good feelings about where we're moving with all of this than bad. And I also want to point out or bring up to you, Chris, to remind, uh, a reminder, it's Mother's Day on Sunday. Okay, so.


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[Assistant] I gotta get to work. I gotta get to work. For your mom. Mom and for your wife. Yeaah. That's coming up. No doubt. Do not forget. No doubt.


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[Assistant] You got a great shot Central Park, NBC for the first time. I'm jealous. I was there this morning and you're in our normal spot and you look nice and cozy and it looks great and there's no people in the building, which is also weird about being there.


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[Assistant] And it is. We got lucky here where I am in Connecticut. Trees down everywhere. It looks like a bomb went off in my yard, but somehow we survived and I have power and everything. We are going to have big fill here later on.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's gonna have power until Sunday or Monday, they told him.


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[Assistant] And my dad is the type of human being that...


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[Assistant] Let me defend you, because I saw some of that hate, okay? I did. And especially


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[Assistant] I don't think it's as crazy as the reaction you got.


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[Assistant] You know, from Twitter. You know, again, you know, everybody, we're such prisoners of the moment, and I fall into this trap too, definitely. I mean, but we forget that they were 12 and 4 two years ago. I mean, there's some pieces there to like.


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[Assistant] Okay, with a pretty good running back. I mean, listen, I, I didn't put them in my top five, but they were on the short list of, as you said, to be funny, one of those 10 teams that you could put in the top five rosters in football.


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[Assistant] You know, I think the Rams are too low, and I do think the Chargers are too low.


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[Assistant] Hey, the quarterback question's a real thing, certainly, but I just think, you know, again, they were very close to being a playoff type team last year. Philip Rivers just had some bad moments. That's all there is to really say about it.


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[Assistant] You know, Jerry Tillery, their first round pick from the 2019 draft, him being in the second year, the addition of Lin-Vell Joseph and Trey Turner and Ryan Belaga on the offensive line. I thought they had a good off season and I would not be shocked.


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[Assistant] I mean, they are one of those teams that, yeah, I mean, you talk about there's three or four teams every year that weren't in the playoffs last year that now are in it.


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[Assistant] I mean, they would be prime candidates for me to go, oh, let me find a team that wasn't in last year that might be in this year. Oh, the Los Angeles Chargers certainly fit that bill.


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[Assistant] Uhm, without question. I mean, they were, again, one of those 10 teams I wrote down.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I thought about them at the number five spot in front of the Dallas Cowboys. I think it's a legitimate conversation. Like listen.


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[Assistant] If somebody in the NFL, one of my coach friends, somebody goes, oh, I think Buffalo is a top-five roster, Sim, you're wrong. I would go, yeah, I hear you. You know, Hey, offensive line is a work in progress, but they got some young guys in there and some guys who I think can be really dominant and they just got to go do it. That's what kind of held me back there.


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[Assistant] You know, but O line, D line, both pretty good. D line real good. Linebackers real good.


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[Assistant] Safety play, real good. And then Tredavious white. You know, and then you add Stefan Diggs to that receiving core.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, of course, Singletary and Zach Moss in the draft. And I think, uh, Duke Dawson at tight end has a chance to be one of the better tight ends of football. And of course, you know, I love Josh Allen. I legitimately think they would probably have been my.


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[Assistant] The teams that I thought about for number, number five was Dallas, the Colts and the Buffalo Bills and kind of the Chargers. I was kind of all in there in that mix, but really the Bills and the Colts are one that I thought about putting at five, uh, more than others, you know, but ultimately went with the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] I would, uh, yeaah, I would agree with that. I would, uh, you know, I'm just trying to think if there's anybody else there.


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[Assistant] You know, O-Line, yeaah, there's some good there. I don't know if I put it in the great category. I mean, they have a great left tackle.


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[Assistant] Aaron Jones, listen, I like him. I think he's a little bit of one of those guys that I would say is overrated because we're the prisoner of the moment.


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[Assistant] You know, wide receiving core, yeaah, listen, I think it's underwhelming. Uh, tight end. You know, I think you could say that's not the greatest either.


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[Assistant] Now linebacker, you go to there. I would go, eh, not that great. There's an issue. Interior part of your defensive line.


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[Assistant] You know, other than Kenny Clark, they just got nobody else.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, they have Jair Alexander who I like a lot.


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[Assistant] And two pretty good safeties. Uhm, but yeaah, I don't know if I can sit here and completely just say they're a top five roster. They're right in that combo of one of those top ten teams there.


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[Assistant] You know, would you want Antonio Brown on your team?


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[Assistant] It is. I mean, there's no doubt. I mean, there's already frustrations I know with teams and things that are going on and they're not sure that it's going to be realistic to keep some of these young guys or, you know, some of these guys who are a little bit more of a renegade personality and keep them in check all season long to where


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[Assistant] You know, you'll be able to trust that they didn't go to the bar or the club or do something like that. So that aspect is real. There's no doubt about that. You know.


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[Assistant] Again, I think the thing with me and Antonio Brown, it's just the risk, risk, reward factor is remarkable in this one. It is. I mean, yeah, the reward could be, whoa, we got one of the two or three best receivers in football and all of a sudden our offense is amazing.


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[Assistant] But, you know, we know what the risk is. We saw it last year. Patriots, Steelers, Raiders, whoever you want to talk about. There's the risks.


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[Assistant] And, you know, that's why if we go to the Baltimore Ravens thing, I just wouldn't mess with them. The Ravens, come on. I don't know what their odds are in Vegas, but I would think that they're top three Super Bowl favorite to win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] They don't need him. It was one of the best offenses in football last year.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, I just worry about that type of scenario. Now listen, I'll say this. The question that I posed on Twitter is a little different than just signing him off the street right now. Right? You know, I feel a little differently maybe if


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[Assistant] That is different than, oh, let's start the season with Antonio Brown on our roster. Because now, what we're worried about with Antonio Brown, right, Ahmed is, if he doesn't get the ball and doesn't get it a lot, what's he gonna do? You know, is he gonna be throwing garbage cans on the sideline and cussing people out and doing stuff like that?


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[Assistant] Well, if you lose your top receiver, you're obviously bringing him in to replace that guy, which would be meaning he would get the focus of the offense and get a lot of footballs. So it's a little different than maybe just signing him as one of the guys and saying, we got two good ones, but we wanted to add him to the mix.


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[Assistant] Well, there is maybe a little need there. I don't think they're desperate. Now the Debo Samuel foot injury kinda, you know, makes you think a little less of them.


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[Assistant] But, you know, we kind of hit this the other day. They got a Jalen Hurd sitting in the, you know, in the wake here, ready to play. Of course, we talked about their first rounder, Brandon Iuke. Kendrick Bourne's a pretty good football player. And let's not forget, George Kittle's going to command the ball a whole lot too. Now, from the San Francisco standpoint, okay,


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[Assistant] I do think like they have the type of team, and I think Shanahan, like a Harbaugh or a Pete Carroll, have a great way about them and communicating with players and making them feel all together and a part of something special. I do think Shanahan can handle it. But the same thing to me there, it just holds true.


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[Assistant] You know, Shanahan first off has proven that he can get receivers open. It doesn't matter how damn good they are. So they're not desperate from that standpoint. And yeah, I'd be a little worried about, again, it's a Super Bowl contender and I just would be scared of


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[Assistant] Whoa, okay. Wait, the people are jumping on Jimmy Garoppolo. He didn't have a great, you know, few weeks of playing, and some other receiver got all the stats, and George Kittle's getting off, and, you know, Kendrick Bourne got off.


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[Assistant] And now, whoa, Deebo Samuel's healthy and he's starting to command the ball. You know, then I just worry about the same thing. Then you've got Antonio Brown going crazy. And, uh, that would worry me. Now I like your thought about the teams that maybe are in the twenties and thirties.


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[Assistant] You know, that to me, if you're gonna take a chance,


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[Assistant] You know, and I, I, the Jets, like the Jets, Sam Darnold, you know, again, now the Jets got some issues there right now, and they've got to deal with a lot of crap, but that's the type of scenario I'm talking about, where team doesn't expect a lot, damn, they got a kind of a good quarterback, they haven't put a lot of talent around them,


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[Assistant] You know, would you think about getting an Antonio Brown in there? Just to, you know, give that offense some juice. You know, that would be the scenario I would kind of look at, that kind of team.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, Karrion Johnson and DeAndre Swift, they've built something there a little bit. You know, and I, in theory, I understand, you know, what our buddy's asking there. But I think the point that, you know, he made at the end a little is like,


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[Assistant] This is, this is a big year for Matt Patricia and Bob Quinn. They need just some stability.


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[Assistant] You know, so, you know, and listen, it's not easy here because I know Adam Gase is not on the most stable ground with my example with the Jets either, but I think for sure we know, I mean, we know Martha Ford came out at the end of last year and during the season.


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[Assistant] So this is it for them and that's where I just wouldn't do it if I was that football team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think I would have them in the top five as of right now. You know, yeah, it's, it's, I just, a year out of football, uhm, with the talent that we see in the list of the top five, top six receivers.


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[Assistant] I think realistically though, if he was in the league, yeaah, he'd be in that top ten. You know, let's see, I had Odell at number six.


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[Assistant] You know, I would say that somewhere in that 7 to 10 range is exactly where Antonio Brown would be.


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, I'm trying to think. I can't think of who I added number 8 off the top of my head. Uhm, who the hell did I- I had?


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[Assistant] I'm blanking out right now because I forgot we were going to have this question and I can't think of it off the top of my head, but somewhere in there.


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[Assistant] I think Antonio Brown 9 and Stefan Diggs 10. That's probably what I would have done for this right now. Again, he's at an age where every year now,


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[Assistant] It's, a little's gonna come off. Every year. I don't care who you are. Once you hit 32, 31 as an NFL live receiver,


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[Assistant] You're gonna start to lose some of your twitchiness and your overall physical explosion.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay, so that, I mean, you're right, that was the perfect situation, you know, at last year in New England, because they are the type of team that knew how to feed them the ball. They didn't have another receiver that really, you know, could command the ball as far as, you know, through the scheme and Brady and everything like that.


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[Assistant] Okay, and you mentioned those like, yeaah, if I was a wild card team, a fringe playoff team.


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[Assistant] You know, of course Baltimore, what's your thought there with how they do things? You know, we just had somebody on Twitter ask us about the 49ers. What if you were one of those teams already that goes, damn, I'm a Super Bowl team. Do you really want to take the chance on that? Would you still do it then, dad?


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[Assistant] That's the big point. You know, the perception around Derek Carr, a lot of it has been created by the Raiders themselves. There's nobody else to blame. And then within that too, what I always challenge with Derek Carr, and I think Dad's telling you, I mean, he's really got top 10 quarterback-type talent.


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[Assistant] You know, so that says a lot. Eh, great completion percentage. Awesome, yeaah. But, we gotta start making some plays to win the game. Game-changing type throws and things like that. And that's where I think, you know, this year they finally put some talent around them to where...


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[Assistant] They'll be able to run the ball, but between rugs and Tyrell Williams and then the other two kids they drafted in the draft, I think they're talented. The kid from Kentucky and the kid from South Carolina to where I go, all right, Derek Card's got some toys to play with this year. And hopefully for lack of a better phrase can show his ass and shut everybody up.


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[Assistant] Well, but to dad's point, it's the Raiders. They're the one that makes this conversation. And then they get mad when everybody talks about it. And we want to, I want to be like, all right, let's go back and like look at your quotes and things. And this is why it's a story.


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[Assistant] I want dad to stop right there because I just want to give a little context into this because dad knows this.


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[Assistant] And I believe somebody, you know, and the cowboy staff back in the day told dad this.


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[Assistant] You know, I think dad, the story went down where he asked the coach about, hey, would you replace Dak with Tony Romo again? And I believe the answer dad got was like, no, there's no way.


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[Assistant] We would probably have a mutiny in our organization and guys would walk out of the facility because that's how much they were behind Dak Prescott. Am I, did I convey that correctly, dad?


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[Assistant] The, the New Orleans Saints have done. They've taken every precaution. Their team has got great veteran leadership. They're doing it all right. Why would they, why should they be docked or not be able to play some game when they, maybe they're playing some other team who's got a bunch of idiots on it who have been reckless and whatever else. You think you got any merit there?


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[Assistant] Last thing, last thing Ahmed, I don't mean to keep, cause I'm just, now I'm curious, cause this is like, I talk about this like,


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[Assistant] No, I have no idea. I can't even, I can't think of, I didn't care. You know, I don't know. I can't think of it.


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[Assistant] Dad, I said this is, because this is, I, you know.


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[Assistant] I think it's a good conversation. You know, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, they kind of go back and forth about who can throw it farther, all that.


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[Assistant] You know, you know, what, what constitutes the strongest arm? Like, I think Gab would agree with me. I'm gonna take Mahomes in the long distance throw. I mean, I've seen video of Mahomes throwing the ball 82 yards. I've seen it.


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[Assistant] You know, I know Josh Allen can probably get it really close to 80. I don't doubt that. But now where I'll say, okay, Mahomes wins the long distance throw.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't think Mahomes is gonna beat him in, you know, if you have to throw a 20 yard out route, miles, mile per hour wise, who could throw it harder?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, Mahomes, I think what makes, you know, Mahomes and Josh Allen are special because they can still throw the ball hard and far.


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[Assistant] Even when they're in awkward positions. And I think especially Mahomes, that's what makes Mahomes arm really special. It's not that it's just like, oh my gosh, it's a freaking laser beam like a Brett Farr, John Elway, Aaron Rodgers head throw. It's, uh,


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[Assistant] Oh wait, he has two feet off the ground and he just threw the ball on a 20 yard out route and he still can throw it with pretty good speed and pace and accuracy.


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[Assistant] That's where he is like mind-boggling. Whoa, he's jumping and he threw a ball 50 yards down the field. That's where I think he's really special. But yeah, I, I, I don't know if he can simply just throw a laser beam the same way a far to L way a Josh Allen quite good.


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[Assistant] You know, drive it like we're talking about. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, it's going downhill, but


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[Assistant] It's special that way. He's got a laser, uh, and I would say he'd probably be...


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[Assistant] You know, soon again, just to discuss, you know, the fantasy world, who's hot, who's not, you know, and of course, uh, they're all over it. They really are. And then they give great new ones too.


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[Assistant] You know, I'll say, you know, I, I pride myself on knowing everything in football and


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[Assistant] You know, we get on with Josh, I always kind of learn something or he brings an angle.


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[Assistant] To the conversation where I go, oh, I never really thought about that. That makes sense or whatever else. So, uh, hopefully we'll get him on here soon.


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[Assistant] I agree. I love the color scheme. It's one of my favorite uniforms in football. You know, I did like the old helmet too. Certainly, but.


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[Assistant] You know, it was time to move on. It was time to change. It's insensitive. It was wrong. So I'm all for this. And yeah, this is cool. I mean, it really is. First off,


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[Assistant] Listen, the more time that goes by, I think I'm fine with everything. Do they need a nickname? I'm cool with the Washington football team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know. I think it's kind of like old school a little bit in some ways and I wouldn't be mad if they just kept themselves as the Washington football team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree with it. I, I agree with what you're saying there. You know, I mean, hey, I'll even go as far to say like,


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[Assistant] You know, I, I don't know. I mean, you're right. And I always looked at it as kind of like, whoa, this is cool. This logo. Look at this. Wow. Look at this great Native American that, you know, obviously


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[Assistant] You know, had impact on people's lives or whatever else, but yeaah, I would be all in favor if they brought


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[Assistant] The symbol back, but find a better name to go with it. That's more, you know.


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[Assistant] Uh, endearing and nicer and just, you know, means more in a positive way to the Native Americans and, and I'd be cool with that. I'd be fine.


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[Assistant] I got lucky, I almost picked the red skins in my top 5 elements that I did.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, now Washington. I gotta stop saying that word too. You can see it slips out of my mouth every now and then just because of years and years of NFC's football growing up here with the Giants and the Northeast that it's still stuck in there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, listen, it was great to see you in that giant room. We got to see the NBC company employees behind you all wearing masks at times and doing proper things that way. Oh, I didn't think of that. Yeah, we had some people, right? We could have ratted some people out on the next podcast. Get them out of here. I don't want them in the building anymore.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know, I'm with you. And like, good luck with your house and lack of power this weekend. I hope you can make it through the weekend.


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[Assistant] Alright, that's it for Chris Sims on Button Podcast. We'll be back next week, Monday and Thursday. I got no clue what we're gonna talk about on Monday yet. We'll see.


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[Assistant] I don't know, we haven't figured out that plan. We'll have Big Phil back in the fold on Thursday. But for Kristen's Ahmed Fareed, that is it for the Kristen's Done Button podcast. Everybody be safe out there, have a good weekend, and Ahmed, clap it up, baby.


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[Assistant] Oh, he's here. He must be smart today. His glasses are on. He better have looked up some research and some stats too, or... I don't know. I mean, just, I'll be disappointed. I hope you did your job. You don't just sit here and think you're handsome and smart.


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[Assistant] I mean, the sex appeal is so strong right there. Distracting. It's gonna be hot and bothered for male and female listeners. They're gonna be like, oh my gosh, I can't stop looking at his chest. It's so sexy.


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[Assistant] Just hoping we're top, I really mean top 20, I'd be happy.


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[Assistant] I don't think we're gonna pass Russ, so I don't think that's gonna happen. I have a feeling he's just got a little more name to...


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[Assistant] Yeah, we do. I mean, that's the worst division in football. There's no doubt about it, but I'd like to think that we, you put together a team there that would be the top team in football.


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[Assistant] He really is. I mean, there's nobody that big, that fast that we've ever seen in football. That play specifically, okay, uh, it's a simple, straightforward play. A play that they really didn't run in the run game all game long.


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[Assistant] And then decide to go to it, I think in this area, just because, hey, they were backed up. They just wanted to get a push.


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[Assistant] If we could show this, cause one of the cool things about it. Have you see there, Ahmed?


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[Assistant] There was, this is 13 personnel, I believe, maybe I was wrong, maybe it was 12 personnel, but I thought there was 3 tight ends in the game. That's where I'm wrong, but either way, 3 tight ends, I thought to the left, I gotta check this now that I'm, I'm, I'm sitting here, I'm going, wait, did I mess this up?


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[Assistant] Well, yeaah, that's definitely it. Like, go, go, go back to the start one more time, Kristen, and just pause it and leave it there. Because you got the bunch left, two tight ends to the left. What they're trying to do is a play that, like in New England, they'd call it 35 Gaps.


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[Assistant] It's a, you want, they basically want three double teams. They're hoping to double team 91, 96, and 92. 57 the linebacker lines up in the weak side gap, so therefore they can't get that third double team. But like I told you already,


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[Assistant] And then they got the center on 92 and then the right guard 64 Nate Davis on 57 Scarlett the linebacker to where at least it gave Derek Henry the opportunity to go wait we got some push off the line of scrimmage let me get a little steam going


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[Assistant] And then let me just kinda read, this play is on the running back, let me just read the blocking and wherever a hole presents itself, I'll run to that. There's no like specific hole that's designed for this, but he sees that, he's got unreal vision.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, he wants to run left, but he realizes there's a little more push to the right. He makes the cut back there because his right guard is


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[Assistant] Are all off the same, basically the same run play. And it's a play we're gonna talk about with another team here later on.


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[Assistant] The zone cutback, you've seen the play a million times, right? You know, it's line up, alright, it's the 5-0 linemen across the board, it's a tight end on each side, off the ball, okay? So the tight ends are right on the edge of the tackles.


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[Assistant] And, okay, so now what they'll do is, let's act like we're gonna run, we're gonna run to the right, right? That left tight end runs to the flat, like he's gonna run a pass route.


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[Assistant] What really is the Titans are trying to sell like, hey, we're running outside zone to the right because you have to worry about that because they'll cut you off and then he'll run on the outside and just


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[Assistant] They'll get 15, 20 yards. So teams overplay that because they go, man, we can't let them do that to us.


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[Assistant] It's one of the things I wrote in the notes where I just go, you know.


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[Assistant] One, we're underselling Tannehill. He's not a game manager. He's a game winner. I mean, that's what he is. I mean, he's, he's a difference maker. And the talent thing, I think, is real. Now, it stinks they lost Taylor LeWan for the year. I mean, cause their own line is talented across the board. But then you talk about the running back. Best running back in football.


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[Assistant] And then you talk about the tight end and Jonah Smith. And you go, hm, he's in the conversation for one of the five best tight ends in football. He's definitely one of the three or four best pass catching tight ends in football. He's right there with Kittle Kelsey Waller. He is that special of a player. Then we get into AJ Brown and


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[Assistant] Adam Humphries and Kalief Raymond and Corey Davis who wasn't even out there, they can do whatever they want on the offensive side of the ball, Ahmed. So they have this great, you know,


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[Assistant] This great elite thing they do with Henry, we're gonna smash mouth, right? And then they're, they get all the things off of it to, you know, protect it, or if you overplay it, the play action pass, the zone cutback runs you got. But then the other thing is, I mean, the drop back


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[Assistant] I mean, I really mean that. Arthur Smith down there. Yeah. He is kicking ass. You know, last year it was good. It was basic good. So where I went, oh, I like, okay, it's good. They got all the basic principles you need to be successful. This year he's got all those


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[Assistant] They can match up with any defense in football. They can beat you any way they want. And they were never stopped in this game. Not really any point. Other than when he threw the interception.


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[Assistant] And then, when he had, he got strip sack fumbled two plays after Taylor Luan got hurt. Other than that,


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[Assistant] They moved the ball up and down the field. The game turned, of course, when they got the field goal blocked and then the strip sack fumble.


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[Assistant] You know, really got Houston back in the football game, but 601 yards of offense? I mean, come on, that's insane. 338 passing, 263 running. You know, this is one of the best teams in football. And we have to start talking about it like that, maybe if not the best team in football.


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[Assistant] You do, you do. And then you're, you know, it's gonna take only special defenses that can stop them.


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[Assistant] The Texans defenses of the world and those, they're never gonna stop them.


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[Assistant] It's going to take a unit that has some also some other special pieces to match it. That's where I go back to like, hey, just off the top of my head, Kansas City last year in the AFC Championship game.


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[Assistant] What do they have? They got a lot of big mofos on their defensive line so they can go, okay, we can, you're not gonna push us around. We're physical as crap too. And then they got a creative coach who can, you know, you just don't know what to expect in certain situations and you're gonna have to be able to play a little man to man on them every now and then


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[Assistant] To call the bluff on that run game or whatever else to just blow up a play, but it's going to be a special type of defense that takes advantage of them and we'll see. I mean the Steelers have that special type of defense, they gotta play them this week.


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[Assistant] But I don't know if the Steelers can play them in man to man coverage either. So that's going to be the other interesting thing off of that too. This is one of the most well rounded, well taught


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[Assistant] Uh, creative, offensive schemes and all of football. And I mean, come on, guys like Ferg Sir is their second tight end, he's getting a hundred yards receiving. They can really, ehm,


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[Assistant] Versatility and scheme and players and everything is off the charts in Tennessee. Gotta pop quiz for ya. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Again, that's why. I'm uh, I'm uh, got an incredible recall.


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[Assistant] I don't. No, my wife could tell me something two nights ago and I go, wait, who did you say that woman's name was? Cause you only have so much space, right, in your head.


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[Assistant] Probably three or four times already during the game. And you know, maybe one or two is a slight dip, you know, slight difference to the play, but similar in theory. And the Texans were all over Derrick Henry every time. They covered him every time. Here they get into this situation.


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[Assistant] They're playing man to man coverage. They fake the run that I've told you about. That's killing them. It's fake to Derrick Henry to the right. The tight end on the right side went behind the line of scrimmage. So that guy playing him man to man went away. Now the other middle linebacker who is responsible for Derrick Henry


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[Assistant] He sees Derek, he kinda goes with Derek Henry to the flat, but then he, I think he goes, oh, let's play action pass, I'm gonna try to go get Ryan Tannehill. And he decides, Zach Cunningham decides the blitz.


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[Assistant] Game winning touchdown play with the Derrick Henry 5 yard run.


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[Assistant] The same run we've talked about seven times now with a tight end behind there.


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[Assistant] They did the same thing except this time that Tannenhill was out split wide and he was the Wildcat quarterback. And now you're thinking, whoa, they're just gonna smash it up in there.


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[Assistant] Or maybe the zone cutback's gonna come, right? And they're very aware of it.


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[Assistant] So they have a bunch of people in the middle, and they actually have a guy for the inside zone cutback. But, they taught their guy who comes behind the line of scrimmage, if he's inside, just pin him in there with the rest of them. And Henry'll push up to the line of scrimmage and bounce it out, and he does that, and it's touched down, and you can't stop him once he gets that steam at him.


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[Assistant] Whoa, the pocket was good. He made so many unbelievable throws into tight windows and things like that. I mean, he was on his game. It's the best he's looked all year. He really did.


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[Assistant] You know, of course the titans had them on the ropes, as we talked about. Again, I really like


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[Assistant] What I see from this Titans team, their defense is very close. Again, I know people are gonna look at it and go, well, they let up all those points in 412 yards.


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[Assistant] Listen, there's only a handful of quarterbacks that could have pulled off what happened there the other day. There really is. It's Deshaun Watson, and you know, Rogers, and Mahomes, and Josh Allen. It's those type of guys. And he did. He played phenomenal that way. And again, the Titans defense, I'll just say this.


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[Assistant] If they were just a little bit better at rushing the passer, which they're getting better at, it's another thing I'll just say, there's really no weakness on the defensive side of the ball either. And they're being a lot smarter than they were earlier in the year, they're not playing as much man to man, they're not being overly aggressive, they're really a lot of cool zone coverages and different looks that way.


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[Assistant] And I just think they're getting close up front. Clowney's gotten better every week. He wasn't as great last week, so I shouldn't say every week. I thought last week was actually the worst he has looked so far. But Jeffrey Simmons was back. He's a force in there. Harold Landry pops every game rushing around the edge, so uhm.


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[Assistant] They'll find the right formula of when to be aggressive, when not to be, but again, I think like their offense, they're very talented that way.


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[Assistant] You know, I want to make sure I say this carefully, but as I think about it, he's the best player in their defense. There's no doubt about it. He's better than JWM Connie.


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[Assistant] Every game he pops. And you don't have to take him off the field. So he can be a run stopper.


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[Assistant] I mean, I still think he's a very high level football player. Are we gonna see, you know, ever the stacks, the sacks and stats that are gonna blow us all away? No.


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[Assistant] It's the versatility and the physicality of Clowney that's really special. You know, he can drop into coverage, he can play defensive tackle, he can play defensive end.


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[Assistant] He can play outside linebacker, you know, he's got unbelievable play strength. I mean he really, he can push around people that are 40 and 50 pounds bigger than him and he pushes them around. You're like, how is that possible that he's doing that?


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[Assistant] There's always going to be the health issue with Jadeveon Clowney. You know, he's got some issues. So he's always managing that, and I think he went into this game kind of banged up as well, if I remember correctly.


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[Assistant] He is certainly a good piece to their football team and makes them a lot better up front. And I just think when he does get healthy and totally in football shape, which I think he'd probably getting really close to here, and maybe the nuances of this defensive system and all of that, I would just say watch out because he's gonna, he's gonna have his say before this year's over.


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[Assistant] They got a ride number four all day long. Their defense ain't gonna stop many people and it's gonna be about four making plays.


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[Assistant] No, I, I, I understand that. I mean, I understand what he's saying there, but would they, you know, I don't know, would they have signed up for 466 yards of total offense? Would they have signed up for, you know, Kansas City controlling the ball for almost 38 minutes of the football game? I mean,


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[Assistant] You know, that's, that's where I don't know. Now, we still have one score game late. One score game late. Right, I know, and we, you know, for, for whatever, as much as we love Kansas City and everything like that.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Buffalo Bills are a good football team. You know, yeaah, they're not in the class of the Titans and the Chiefs. We know that. That's for sure. There's a lot of work to do. The Buffalo Bills, it's all about their offense. Their defense sucks. Their offense has to carry it all. So, no, I mean, the defense, I guess...


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[Assistant] I mean, they didn't execute anything to just push back against our guy Thad Brown.


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[Assistant] You know, and not all their fault. They're not talented. They don't do enough stuff creativity wise on the defensive side of the ball. It's a bad combination. It's a very bad combination. Exactly right. When you don't have any, not one good defense alignment that stands out in any area, run game, pass game.


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[Assistant] You know, linebackers are a little underwhelming right now. Jermaine Edmonds is not having a good, you know, year a year. Uh, they can't cover man to man. So.


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[Assistant] Do you think that they- The game plan was don't get torch deep. Yeaah. We don't think Andy Reid will consistently try to run the ball on us. And he did. And Buffalo kept playing.


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[Assistant] Buffalo had to. They had no choice. They had to pick their poison. See, this is the first time all year before I get into specifics of what they ran. But this is the first time all year, Buffalo, see, Buffalo played the Raiders where they were worried about their run game too.


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[Assistant] But Henry Ruggs wasn't in and they're not as creative in the pass game so they took some more chances to stop the run and didn't get totally burned by the pass game even though they did. This is the first team


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[Assistant] You know, or I should say the second team in a row, because the Titans had this too, to where they had to put all their eggs in the one basket thing.


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[Assistant] See, with the titans the week before, the numbers aren't going to look good because their defense shut them up for some short fields, but they played all out to stop the run, and Ryan Tannehill hit play action passes and people were wide open. If they didn't have the short field, he'd have thrown for 350-something yards against them the last week too. You know, so this week it was the opposite, it was, whoa.


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[Assistant] They're gonna, they're gonna torture us in the pass game. We're gonna play really, really far back. And Andy Reid, who's...


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[Assistant] You know, I think there's gonna be some teams like Seattle might play that way a little bit. Seattle did that to them a few years ago up in Seattle on a Sunday or Monday night. You know, I think any of the


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[Assistant] The defenses that are not overly talented are going to play that way because they're going to go, well we can't take a chance and like be aggressive or we're going to get burned. But hey, the 49ers are later on the schedule, they're going to have to do it against them.


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[Assistant] You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers, they're probably gonna go, they can't play man to man, they're probably gonna go, we'll play deep zones and we're gonna hope our front four can disrupt the pass game.


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[Assistant] They'll have to run the ball on them too. So this is going to have to be a part of their football team. Same thing, they're going to play the Tennessee Titans in the playoffs or something like that. They're going to get played that way as well.


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[Assistant] So they better have this short passing game and run game at their disposal. And what was amazing about this one too, just to get specific about what the Chiefs did to the Buffalo Bills, they basically did the same thing the Rams did to them. It was the same plays, it was the same runs.


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[Assistant] It was all of, it really was the same play we just talked about with the Tennessee Titans, which is amazing. It was zone to the right, right?


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[Assistant] Somebody behind the line of scrimmage, cut it back.


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[Assistant] And it was mainly that for the good part of the night, or fake the speed sweep like you see the Rams do, zone, and look for the cutback if they overplay the zone. And what happens more times than not is, again, the Buffalo Bills like the Rams game too many plays


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[Assistant] End up on the plate of the Nickelback or one of the safeties to be like, Oh, I have to be the guy that makes the stop in the hole or take on a pulling guard or do something like that. That's not good. That's not good when Tyron Johnson and Jordan Poyer are towards the top of your tackling list every week like that.


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[Assistant] They have real issues. They have no talent. They have to overplay to stop certain things if you're a lead at it. And this was a team where they had to overplay the pass.


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[Assistant] And Andy Reid did the right thing, and he exposed him. And there's nobody in the front seven worth a damn in Buffalo, let alone they get into some defense alignments, Ahmed, where I go,


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[Assistant] I don't even know how you stop this run in this alignment. So, I don't know whose fault this is.


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[Assistant] But it's, you're, what you're asking this guy to do, or what you're asking your defense to do against this lineman versus this run game, it's just not gonna happen. There's too many plays like that where I look there, I watch the play, it's a 10 yard run, I go back, I go, oh what happened, I go wait,


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[Assistant] But I don't understand how they even expect to stop this in this alignment. There's too much of that, and I think that's what, uh, worries me about them.


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[Assistant] Major issues. Sean McDermott's got to get back involved in the defense. You know, I think he's letting Leslie Frazier just run the show too much. You know, McDermott, hey man, you're the head coach in Buffalo because you're awesome on defense.


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[Assistant] Don't just like think you got your defense there and then just give it up. Like, you know, like Kyle Shanahan didn't get his offense where it was last year and then go, ha, somebody else called the plays, we're good now. Sure. That's where I would tell Sean McDermott, like, come on man, this is what you do. This is your genius here. And that play you're talking about with the, uh, the touchdown, that was a messed up play too. They're playing Tampa too.


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[Assistant] You know, Trudevius White doesn't wanna have to give Kelsey that corner route, but the weak side linebacker over there, AJ Klein, he's supposed to be down there by the back.


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[Assistant] I don't know if he thought he was the middle Tampa 2 linebacker that was supposed to go down the middle, but he was up there by Tremaine Edmonds, and that's what's f***ed over Tredavious White, because he's seen the back come out and he's like, wait, there's nobody there. It's Clyde Edwards Salera, they gave him the ball every play this whole drive. What are we doing? So he had to stop, he was stuck in the spot.


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[Assistant] And you can see on the sideline on the film too, the coaches get mad at him at first. He kind of looks back at the sidelines because I don't think the coaches realize, man, our weak side linebacker was like 10 yards out of position. So Trinavius White, again, that goes back to the coaching and this, I don't know how they stop that play in that alignment. Real issues for Buffalo. So to our man Thad Brown's point.


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[Assistant] I don't know if that's execution, it's not execution, it's poor players and you're not giving your defense or players any schematical advantage to even help out that they're poor and to me that's why they died a slow death and that wasn't good.


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[Assistant] You think? Andy Reid's my man, man. I know. No, but I do think he's gonna continue to steal.


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[Assistant] I was awesome to see Kansas City do that. And last thing with Kansas City.


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[Assistant] Cause we don't talk about this enough and it bothers me.


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[Assistant] Because it's Mahomes and the Airshow, they're one of the most physical teams in football.


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[Assistant] They have badasses on both sides of the ball and especially defense. You know, that's why they were able to shut down Buffalo and Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] Was, it's not that their secondary is great, it's just their defensive front is overwhelming at times. And they can trust their defensive line to stop the run by themselves. They can rush forward.


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[Assistant] And go, Chris Jones or Frank Clark will get there. You know, we can, we can do whatever on the back end, let alone Spagnola every now and then will take some chances and do some creative shit where you drop back and you're like,


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[Assistant] There's no doubt, you know, he missed the first two throws of the game, then the third throw of the game to get a first down, he throws a dime fading away, and it bounces off John Brown's face, alright. He misses a deep cross to Stefan Diggs a little later, should have hit that.


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[Assistant] And then there's the play where he's got pressure and he throws it into the flat to Devon Singletary, wherever he goes. Oh man, he missed him. No, Devon Singletary.


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[Assistant] Their offense has got to carry the team like I said. Which is not what we thought coming into the game. No, we did not. It's become apparent. But we've seen it. It's become apparent and they have to be careful about playing that slow death defense. Do you really want to do that? Do you want to like let a team...


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[Assistant] You know, keep Josh Allen off the sidelines for 38 minutes in the game.


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[Assistant] I would agree. I can't say Le'Veon Bell is better than him right now. No. I haven't seen Le'Veon Bell in three years. I don't even know what he does. So yeaah. But the one thing is... I've seen him. He's wearing green there for a couple games. The one thing he'll bring to their offense, Ahmed, is they don't have to change anything, right? He can do all the same things Edward Talaer does.


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[Assistant] He's going to extend Edward Haller's career and their first round draft pick asset because they're using him too much right now. For such a small guy, they're going to kill him in two years.


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[Assistant] But I guess, like, listen, the way I looked at the game was more through Patriots mistakes and rustiness as compared to where I go in some games where I just go, oh, this defense just physically had their way and pushed this offense around. Then I would go, woah, this was all the defense, they did it, blah, blah, blah, all that. You know, a lot of things go into this.


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[Assistant] You know, again, we talked about this a little on Monday, but they haven't been able to practice. Cam Newton hasn't played football in three weeks. And then they got a beat up, really beat up offensive line and they really had to shuffle people around.


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[Assistant] Just to start the game, let alone somebody got hurt during the game and then they had to reshuffle. And really that's where the game starts. I mean the first interception of the game, hey, they got their starting left tackle, he's playing left guard.


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[Assistant] And he just totally gets beat off the ball and the guy tips the pass. Cam Noon's gonna throw an easy swing route to James White. He's one on one with a lot of space on a middle linebacker and you're going.


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[Assistant] If you don't know what's gonna happen, you're gonna go, oh, this, this, this looks like it could be interesting. What? Tip pass? What? Diving? Catch? Amazing!


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[Assistant] There was a lot of that throughout the day of just being off, but there's also other moments where I just go, man, I mean, their offensive line still can really maul people and push people out of the way and do things that way.


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[Assistant] I still see things, good things from the offensive line. You know, it just, they never got to stay on the field or get rhythm going or doing anything like that. You know, again, this is Denver's defense. I'll give them the credit here. You know, the, the, like, Cam Newton's strip sack fumble he had at one point. Now they ended up recovering it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I believe they ended up recovering. Am I thinking of the right one? I just want to make sure I'm remembering the right one. Okay, here it is, sorry. Uhm, but, but,


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[Assistant] Cam Newton's in a max protection, Denver runs a really cool defense, and he just holds the ball too long.


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[Assistant] You know, that's the big thing. Like, he certainly was rusty a few times with missed throws and just like, hey, it's one, it's two, it's three. Okay, nobody's there. Move, let's do something. You're Cam Newton. Go. Don't just keep standing there going, I'm going to be big and strong and do that. You know, he got, he got crushed from behind that one time and, uh, that,


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[Assistant] It's gonna have to be through the run game, that's for sure. The pass offense, yea, and Nikhil Harry is, he's a little worrisome. He can't separate, this is his problem in college. He couldn't separate, he's good when he has the ball in his hands, he can break tackles and make you miss, but he's always covered. So he's like one of those guys that, Cam is comfortable like that,


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, they gotta find more ways to work him the ball. The guys that can get open are Edelman and Demir Bird. That, that's the big thing all the way, but, you know, I do think overall, it was Rusty just that way, mistakes that way, you know, the, uhm,


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[Assistant] The two interceptions, we just talked about the first one.


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[Assistant] The second one, he's got Julian Edelman on a crossing route. Denver Broncos, hey, the guy made a good play. Justin Simmons, who was kind of blitzing up at the line of scrimmage, he read his eyes, he jumps up, he gets his hands on the ball. Interception.


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[Assistant] You know, there they are driving. We talked about, you know, this a little on Monday. Izzo, all that's 20 yard gain. He fumbles right on the fringe of, so wait, like here, let's go through it. Here's the start of the second half, first third down.


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[Assistant] 76 win, now who started the game at left guard, now is back at left tackle.


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[Assistant] He's got wide open receiver for a first down and


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[Assistant] Wind just gets run over by Bradley Chubb. So he gets his, he's throwing it. So they're, they're off the field there. Next drive, they get the third down conversion to Izzo. Fumble, you know. Next drive, you know, 15 yard, Nikhil Harry wide open on a 15 yard deep cross. So it was Nikhil Harry, Simmons jumps up, tips the ball, interception, you know, uhm,


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[Assistant] 18 to, 18-3, 4th quarter, it's 3rd and 3. Uh, I wrote, that was like the first drive of all games where I felt like the Broncos legitimately stopped the Patriots. It wasn't the Patriots making a mistake or doing something stupid that way. So I guess that's what I'm trying to say here.


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[Assistant] Right? Like, but, you know, what, what Denver, and they save them, and then when you're proved wrong, then they release them to the public. Well, I know, that's where, like, I mean, Denver's gonna hear from me this week. They better play good against Kansas City, cause when that game's over on social media, they're gonna hear from me.


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[Assistant] You know? Oh, dude, your defense is so great! I mean, you're so great against the Jets! You lit up 28 points against the f***ing Jets? You lit up-


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[Assistant] The Steelers, the Bucks, I mean, what do they want me to say? That they're the best defense in football? Like, come on, that shit's gonna stop. I'm getting at everybody this week. Now you are starting to get a little fired up. Eagles, they're gonna get it as we go forward. 49ers, they're on the list, they're all on the list. Yea, these are teams that you kinda like to be stuck up for in the past. I know, I know, because you're not allowed to ever say anything


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[Assistant] No, it didn't happen, and you know, first off, their, their, their touchdown drive, uhm, that gave them nine, right? It was all about Cam Newton running the ball there, so they were getting burned by it a little bit already, and then,


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[Assistant] As we get into that dr-, that last drive, you know, uh, they played, they were playing some coverage, but the last four plays of the game were all blitzes to stop Cam Newton from running the football.


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[Assistant] Teams are willing to do this and you can take a chance against New England, especially in these situations because you don't think their receivers can separate or run away from you or really burn you that way.


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[Assistant] Of that all together. You know, it was, uh, yes, all out blitzes, creative blitzes, the two safeties blitzing on the last play of the game.


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[Assistant] And Cam probably had a hair more time to just stand there and wait a split second longer to see Nikhil Hari come out of his break. But I get it, he's got seven people running at him and he wanted to make sure he didn't get sacked or hit as he was throwing in the last play of the game. And they were just off target there.


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[Assistant] Again, the context of the football game, like the two set interceptions at the end, yeaah, they're bad, especially the first one. I don't understand


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[Assistant] They're both bad. The first one, the first one I just don't understand what he was doing. He's got Patrick on the left sideline, and he throws a back shoulder ball, but Patrick's not expecting it, and the DB's not really playing it in a way where you would throw a back shoulder ball. So that, I don't understand.


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[Assistant] And then of course, yes, the next time around, it, then the second interception,


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're trying to take a shot down the field. It doesn't mean you have to take the shot. And he throws the ball up into an area where I go, I don't know what led him there. The safety never really moved off the area to think you could squeeze that ball in. If anything, maybe he hits the deep crossers in front of the safety. He wants to throw that.


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[Assistant] You know, Denver got into a little phase there where they started to blow their lead where it was a little bit of like, first down run, second down run, then throw.


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[Assistant] And then I think they got sick of that and they came out and they're like, all right, let's be aggressive again and let Drew throw it. And he's basically a rookie and he messed up. Definitely. But the good thing about Drew, I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I'm going to praise my quarterback. I like Drew Locke. You know that.


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[Assistant] You know, but the big thing is, he made throws and did some things that just some people just can't or won't do against New England. You know, there is, there was a lot of field position game changing type throws that let them get into field goal position at least to kick those and knock it in and play that style of football.


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[Assistant] What, that, that's the throw of the day, right? I mean, third and 21, you're going, oh man, the, the, the Patriots, they, they're gonna kinda get momentum back here, they're, they're not out of it. Because if the whole game went, you kept going.


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[Assistant] Here come the patrons, and then they mess it up, and then you go, here come the patrons, and then they mess it up, and then you go, here come the patrons. Woah, okay, uh, but-


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[Assistant] That's the last place they thought he was gonna throw the ball. I believe they were on the left hash. They're thinking he's not gonna throw a ball 30 yards up the sideline in between our safety and our corner. No way!


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[Assistant] And he did, and that's, that's why he has a chance to be special. You know, because when he sees one on one matchups,


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[Assistant] Whether it's a go route or something aggressive down the field, his go routes and his deep crossing routes, Ahmed, that's to me where he's awesome.


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[Assistant] Because he doesn't need a lot of separation. He can drop in the goal routes, crossing routes, guy can be right here and he can put it, you know, a foot in front of the offensive wide receiver every time to where the DBA is great coverage but that arm just can't reach there to get it. He's special that way.


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[Assistant] J.C. Jackson is one of the best corners in football. And I'm glad you brought this up because I want to talk about this.


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[Assistant] You know, there was a few plays in Seattle that Jason McCourty gave up where I go, why isn't JC Jackson in? Why did JC Jackson not play the whole first quarter against Seattle and then coming in the second quarter?


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[Assistant] I don't know, maybe he broke a rule, maybe he's in a dog house up there. Maybe that's what it is.


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[Assistant] You know, by doing that even, you know, McCourty in the first drive got burned by Judy down the right sideline. That was him. I don't know. I just, I don't see that stuff happen to J.C. Jackson. I don't understand that. The thing that I really want to get to with my thought there with J.C. Jackson is...


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[Assistant] I just feel like this can be some politics being played by New England. Just throwing it out there. And what I mean by politics, and this is like NFL teams, this is salary, salary cap politics.


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[Assistant] They're, they're gonna hurt his, well, he did, they're gonna talk to the agent and try to get a deal done with him before the year's over. They go, he's not even starting for us. He's not even starting.


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[Assistant] So, no, we can't pay him that kind of money that you're asking. He doesn't even start!


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[Assistant] It doesn't even start. That's what they're gonna do. And then they're gonna have other teams, if he does get the free agency, they're gonna question, like, why didn't he start? Is he a problem? All these things. And nobody will ever know, cause New England will never tell anybody. And it's probably gonna scare some people. But that's like the dirty little secret that goes on in the NFL. Too much. Too much.


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[Assistant] I still, my greatest example of it ever is in 2015, the Denver Broncos team.


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[Assistant] The Broncos were telling everybody Demarcus Ware was better than Von Miller, and he was really the key to the defense. Because they didn't want to have to pay Von Miller $900 million. They were trying to lower his price, they were trying to get the perception out there that he wasn't quite as good as everybody thought he was, and that they really couldn't live out without Demarcus Ware. You know, and I remember, I can still remember, you're gonna ask my dad.


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[Assistant] He, he had some people tell him that out there and I went, Dad, come on.


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[Assistant] The biggest issue I have with New England is, man, they're in trouble up front.