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[Assistant] It is snootiness, but it's just, this is what it is, is that like, what you understand about something is just whatever you've seen of it. And so, don't think you know by experience when you've like seen the commercial version of something. When we went from Chiang Mai to Patia for the first time, what really struck me and kind of made me


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[Assistant] Be very surprised and in love with Patia was the difference in the Thai culture that existed kind of, uhm,


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[Assistant] Right, but what was very different from the way that it is in Chiang Mai. One, it's a different culture, but two, the way it interacts with Western influence is different. And then when we can...


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[Assistant] That was difficult for me because I was not used to speaking Thai so consistently at the time.


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[Assistant] I was like forced to speak more. My Thai has gotten so much better because we moved to Patia.


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[Assistant] What I said five years ago when we moved to Patia was that in Chiang Mai the


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[Assistant] There's a lot of expats in Chiang Mai, like long-term expats. And then there's tourism. And it's very integrated. Uh, like the business and the culture are very intertwined in Chiang Mai.


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[Assistant] In Patya, I like that they're actually a little bit separated, but it's, I say that the, like, Ferong-ness is like this film that floats on top of the, like, kind of core Thai-ness that's still in Patya, and you can still kind of see


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then, you don't have this because you don't speak Thai, but when we went down to Phuket, the


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[Assistant] Accent and way of speaking and it expresses the culture, which I do not know a lot about, but it expresses this identity in a really strong way. And I actually know this Karchuk promoter for years now. He's from the South.


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[Assistant] When he talks to me anywhere else that I've done a Karchuk fight with him, I have never noted an accent.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. In the south, people with the southern accent, it is strong, but it's like how, uh, when I'm really sensitive to accents, so sometimes when Kevin and I are watching a movie, we'll be 30 minutes into it with a main character, and I'm like, that actor's hiding an accent?


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[Assistant] And then we discover they're Australian later or something, and it's just certain words. That's what it's like with Adjanserat, is certain words will kind of like...


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[Assistant] Maybe there's a trainer there who expresses Southern-ness in a way that you're like really charmed by.


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[Assistant] Uh, so we were two years in Chiang Mai and we've been in Patia for five years. In that time, I've learned Thai. I've, uhm,


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[Assistant] Your trainer tell you, so bye, so bye, relax, all this stuff.


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[Assistant] I'm very tense. I'm much less tense than I used to be when I first came here. Super, like, whatever. And I always really struggled with a trainer telling me to relax or so by so by while I was...


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[Assistant] It eventually, my understanding of it has just kind of...


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[Assistant] gone through these layers and revelations and depths and all these things to understand that relax is not


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[Assistant] And this is what's beautiful about my Thai getting better and my Muay Thai getting better in tandem, is that in having fluency in both, there's this thing about language


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[Assistant] The connotation is like kind of the general feeling around it that can be different from the denotation.


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[Assistant] Is the other day I was doing pads with Kruden, who's this 60 plus year old pad man at my gym who actually was a trainer for my trainer, Krunu, when Krunu was a teenager. He's been there forever. He's very cheeky. He's like very...


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[Assistant] But I, I was doing pads with him, and I felt like I was hitting really hard with my strikes, and I was, but at the end of those rounds, whereas he's usually very complimentary and he's like, great, he was like, today, my melee.


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[Assistant] I have heard maimi lang, it means no power, like you don't have power.


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[Assistant] Many, many, many times. And I realized in that moment when he said it to me because of my actual experience of that pad work and how I felt that what ties mean


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[Assistant] Lost in translation between the denotation and connotation of Maimi Lang is, as a Westerner, as me, as whatever, I always thought that that no power Maimi Lang had to do with the strikes.


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[Assistant] And they'll totally make fun of men, they're like, oh you went out last night, you have no power, whatever your thing is, blah blah blah, and you think they're talking about strikes.


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[Assistant] He did not mean my strikes. He meant everything between my strikes. And he actually demonstrated this little, like, kind of diesel-noy oatmeal falling apart between things. And it's, the lack of power is what in Thai they call root. Root is your body or your, like, visage. And so,


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[Assistant] Composure and form did not express strength.


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[Assistant] So where I was like, my strikes are strong, what are you talking about? No, Miami Lang, no power, I'm striking hard. He's like,


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[Assistant] You're demonstrating your lack of power between all your strikes. And so this Mimey Lang thing, which they will use when a fighter has lost too much weight or whatever. There is this whole like, oh, he could have fought better, but Mimey Lang kind of thing.


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[Assistant] You read all the words, and you thought it was about the words, but it's actually about everything that isn't said in between.


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[Assistant] The right part. So instead of, oh, I have to hit harder, my strikes have to be stronger, in which case your root between shit is actually gonna look even worse.


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[Assistant] When you understand that it means everything in between, and you're like, okay, I can kick relaxed or as hard as I'm kicking, but don't show anything in between,


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[Assistant] It's like charisma, it's like how, uh, Karhat said that fighters nowadays don't have charisma.


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[Assistant] If you have like a lion that's hunting a gazelle and the gazelle is totally fucking...


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[Assistant] Is that the thing about bank and the thing about me


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[Assistant] That, uh, Krunu knows is that our strength is our strength. Like, we are powerful. Like...


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[Assistant] Well, I don't know whether it made it on the last recording or not, but I was talking about how, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, there are a lot of fighters who have this really, Thai fighters have this really beautiful thing in the way that they progress throughout a fight. Which is like, I haven't had to get out of second gear yet.


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[Assistant] Uh, don't make me go harder than I have to. But then you do have another gear.


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[Assistant] The thing with strong fighters, and Bank is not Muay Kao, Bank is like Muay Mat, he's like a puncher, but he's really powerful, uhm, and me as a Muay Kao fighter, I'm always coming forward, this kind of thing, is that the,


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[Assistant] The thing about us that's exhausting is that we're powerful and that we will keep coming. But if you don't train those moments between things, you're not sending the message, I can do that again.


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[Assistant] Because the Italians that come to the gym with their, Kevin calls it kennel cough, the way that they like, uuuh, and like sigh about how tired they are.


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[Assistant] Group, to a degree. Not nearly the way that...D.Selenoid does.


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[Assistant] But if you show that you're tired, if you show that you're hurt, if you give like a shit attitude about something, he'll give you more. He's like, okay, now you do 50 more kicks, kinda thing.


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[Assistant] If you don't internalize it and have your own autonomy and self-belief about those things, I know to hide pain or hide fatigue because I don't want 50 more kicks.


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[Assistant] That's obedience. That's not the same thing as...


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[Assistant] Secondary revelation of the Muay Thai library for me is that


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[Assistant] We're like, let's preserve technique because Muay Thai is changing. Muay Thai does not look the way it used to.


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[Assistant] The further revelation is that


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[Assistant] What one of my favorite revelations of the library has been is that on top of the technique and of the men, they teach you how to train.


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[Assistant] And as much as technique is changing and disappearing...


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[Assistant] Golden age training is fucking gone. It's already gone.


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[Assistant] This is, this is not unusual, but like, uh, when fighters are getting ready for a fight, there'll be a lot of the type of stuff that you would see in a fight. So between rounds, they're rubbing water on their limbs, they're kind of, uhm, doing massage, telling them to breathe, this kind of thing.


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[Assistant] Fan out your arms. Like you.


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[Assistant] And it totally is just this like, uh, waking up, reawakening.


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[Assistant] Flow into and be completely absorbed by or something, but like you...


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[Assistant] You interact with the environment as well. You bring your own stuff as well. I've influenced my gym a lot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but also like when I, uh, learned


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[Assistant] Load management is a concept, as a concept isn't new to the NBA, even if the terminology might be.


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[Assistant] Gary Vitti saw the process of managing players fatigue evolve during the 32 years he spent with the Lakers as a trainer.


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[Assistant] When he first started in Los Angeles, BT had to use his own eyes and intuition to tell when a player was slipping into what he calls postural distortion, or what ties call breaking roots.


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[Assistant] When a player's movements are noticeably less sharp, raising the possibility of injury.


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[Assistant] 50 was able to put a number on a player's quote-unquote load and their quote-unquote intensity. So those are the two key words, load and intensity.


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[Assistant] 50 said he took the average speed of a player and multiplied it by the average distance and then by the player's weight to get their load.


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[Assistant] Divide that number by how many minutes the player played and you get their intensity.


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[Assistant] The relationship between the two numbers helped determine whether a player could be pushed or needed to be limited in practices or in games. So basically like, how close are you redlining in your personal...


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[Assistant] What we're looking for was a direct linear relationship between load and intensity, but he says, if the load was going up, we want intensity to go up with it.


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[Assistant] If it did, then you were in a green zone and we could push you. The management portion comes, comes in once the player's intensity levels flattens.


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[Assistant] But you're also able to see, it's the same way that like, uhm, when I watch Golden Age fighters face Diesel Noy, and I'm like, these guys must have been so strong, because I know how hard Diesel Noy needs, and these guys are taking them.


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[Assistant] Like, Samar's root falls apart. Like, Wang Shunwei doesn't want anymore. Like, these guys, their line is so high. When you see Karahat give up in a fight, it's like, fuck, that must have been intense to get that point because that root is so well trained.


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[Assistant] A number of these kind of old school trainers, uhm, or fighters, is that when you


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[Assistant] When you focus on technique or when you have really good technique, you're like, you can fight for a long time.


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[Assistant] They mean not being injured. Like, if you're, if you fight like an idiot, might need samong, right? Like you don't think, no IQ, you're just like getting bashed. No technique, just power. But like, you just get hurt. Like, you're gonna be hurt all the time. If you have shitty running form,


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[Assistant] Lots of people who are really great runners have pretty shitty form, but they have something...


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[Assistant] Within it, that allows them to kind of like, keep it all together. If you're just like a, me, suddenly becoming a like, ultra marathoner, I'm totally gonna get injured.


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[Assistant] Well, this, this goes into my training with Chanchai. Chanchai is the Teep King.


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[Assistant] So, when we started getting into his teeth,


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[Assistant] We're spending like 40 minutes on details of the teet. Because he can fight entire fights against really amazing fighters basically just teeping. He is my teet.


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[Assistant] What was revealed to me, uhm, because I'm not a beginner, was I started being able to feel all the tiny little details in why those teeps are different or why his teep is working and mine isn't. And there were these micro-weaknesses in my ankle that were making me constantly have to rebalance myself.


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[Assistant] Those are the kinds of things that cause injury. Like, when I started doing the Long Swan 1000 out of nowhere,


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[Assistant] It wasn't because a thousand knees on the bag is too much load. It's because I don't have the micro techniques in my ankles with the strength to be able to do that without causing strain injury. Like I actually hurt the tendon on my, uh,


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[Assistant] Inside of my leg when I started doing that. And it's that like, my technique is not quite right.


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[Assistant] He had me do a sprint back and forth and he's like, you run wrong. It's like, that totally makes sense.


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[Assistant] That you actually build up your ankle strength doing something totally repetitive like running.


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[Assistant] She never used the wrong word. Like, her vocabulary was actually really good, her pronunciation was fine, like, I would say that she's...


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[Assistant] Just in the words she was using and what she was saying pretty close to fluent in English.


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[Assistant] But she had this constant, uh, uh, between things that made her really hard to understand. Like, could not follow. It's like that. Your kick is fine, but you have all these errs and ums and like weird shit in between that you're like, I can't understand you. Like, what are you?


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[Assistant] Because, uh, I wrote to Diesel Noy, he's at the gym now.


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[Assistant] Look like you're gonna fall apart doing it or something, like...


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[Assistant] Uh, a French woman who's come to the gym for long term, she's Moical, she's built like Diesel Noy, she's just so intense, like just, put your head down and do the work.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in the way that Desolnoy just has his own level.


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[Assistant] Kroonu doesn't love all of it, and it's like, that's Karo, you just gotta let it go, cause she...


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[Assistant] Disilnoi loves her. Disilnoi calls her Disilek, which is an incredible honor to be called that by Disilnoi. Uhm, she's like Disilnoi with elbows, but, uh,


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[Assistant] Or struggles with, with Karo. Is that once she's clinching or something, she'll throw elbows or like.


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[Assistant] Perceivable necessarily on the outside, which is she can feel, she has a sensitivity for what that person's, uhm,


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[Assistant] That's what allows Diesel Noy to have his personal pride and dignity of you never break your roof. Is if he were to slump.


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[Assistant] The way he looks at someone else, he has this fantastic...


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[Assistant] Imitation thing he does when he's like, when you're clenching someone and they start to like, worm or wiggle.


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[Assistant] That makes him go harder. Karo has this. Which is why he will never allow it for himself. So, Diesel Noi


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[Assistant] I'm gonna slump, whatever, and was like, fucking no, not me. Like I do not do that, I will not tolerate that. And so he holds other people to that standard too, even when they don't meet it. One of my favorite things about having Diesel Noy in the gym that I was telling Caro as we were like bouncing on the tires, I'm like,


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[Assistant] Decently is one of the most generous persons I've ever met in my life. Because he will tell someone who he knows will never listen to him the same thing a hundred times.


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[Assistant] I think there are fighters who try to take that career arc, who, uhm, they're root


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[Assistant] It's, it's not like talked about in this big way, but in the same way that we will hear ties be like, oh, sue my die. Like they can't fight because of this, that, and the other thing. If someone has a root broken performance.


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[Assistant] And became a much better fighter. Much better, much better fighter. I'm sure they increased her load and her intensity.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the, that's the thing though, is that like, you get a lot of westerners in Thai gyms who have the western protocol. Their body's really good, they have this like, sports science-y, like, doing your sprints and your sit-ups and like, all the...


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[Assistant] There's things that you do in order to like, maximize your whatever, but there's no root, like there's no...


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[Assistant] 100%, yeaah. It's, there's a, there's a promotion now that's somewhat new that has actually focused quite a bit on including female fighters on it, which is great. Uhm, but it's a non-traditional format, it's uhm, three round fights, very like,


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[Assistant] They love doing Thai versus, uh, non-Thai matchups.


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[Assistant] One has MMA gloves, the other one has Muay Thai gloves. But they like the same thing, they like this like max Muay Thai, like go go go thing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so it's a, it's a difficult thing to jump into if you're not used to. Uhm, and so Sao Sing, who's kind of a headhunter for and kind of the, uhm,


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[Assistant] And she's amazing. She and her mom who runs Source Up at Gym, which is the gym that


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[Assistant] And it is also true, they are not training super hard in their gyms for fitness. A lot of these girls probably don't run, a lot of them are not like...


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[Assistant] Suri, I think Megan is her, Suri, mouse.


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[Assistant] Uhm, many years ago, actually, it was, uhm, Petang Pong Gym.


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[Assistant] Uh, which makes me think that I'm not scary, like that I'm, like, what's the big deal about fighting me? I'm so much smaller. And the owner of Paedongpong Gym was like, Sylvie's crazy, she fights hard all five rounds. Like, the...


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[Assistant] Difficulty of facing that or the intensity of facing that is like...


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[Assistant] To the extent that these Thai women have Roop a lot of the time, mine's getting better, but especially when this was said about me years and years and years ago, I'm like,


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[Assistant] I'm not scary, like I'm, I don't have a lot of skills or finesse or whatever. The thing that I talked to Emma about in our, we used to have a podcast called Two Ladies in the Kingdom and one of the things we talked about is that


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[Assistant] In Thailand, facing Thai, like why are Thai women hard to fight? There are so many ways to lose, that we don't even, like we can't even see the whole picture.


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[Assistant] There's so many ways to lose that in a more simplified, just clash as hard as you can, it's like who gases first, who hits harder, who...


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[Assistant] Touched the other person more kind of thing is like that's who wins or loses in like a root


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[Assistant] Uh, points, skill, overall picture, game, there are lots of ways to lose. So, I wasn't even identifying that what made me hard to fight and what makes me hard to fight, uhm, is that my load capacity.


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[Assistant] Yes. I mean, why we're talking about this is because of this revelation about what my life actually means. Uhm, is that my roof has gotten much better over the years because of the influence and confluence of being in a Thai gym.


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[Assistant] And we've, we say this all the time in this podcast is you are training something, even if you're not intentionally training it, you are rehearsing and practicing habits all the time, even if you're not aware of them. So be careful to pick what you're working on.


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[Assistant] Is, in my last training session, the one where, uhm, Kruden was like my Milang or whatever, I was trying to like, push for my chance to spar.


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[Assistant] And you were like, you know what? And Kevin is all about me sparring. Kevin was like, not today. You kinda have a shitty attitude. And it was like, your root is just gonna go in the, we're practicing shitty root direction instead of like, you're gonna like...


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[Assistant] Take this difficult opportunity to work en route. It was like, don't worry about it. Like, not today.


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[Assistant] A ton, which is two. Which is two endure, but not endurance.


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[Assistant] The values of the culture look for those values in scoring a fight or who performed better.


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[Assistant] It's often translated to loving kindness, but a simple translation is compassion.


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[Assistant] If you had a bow with three arrows shooting.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so it is a weapon, uhm, and it's got these three arrows.


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[Assistant] My, my first elbow yaunt was my first yaunt ever.


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[Assistant] I didn't speak Thai super well at the time. He does not speak English, but this was communicated very clearly. He said you can never strike.


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[Assistant] A child like spank a kid or whatever the thing is with your right hand because you have this elbow yawn.


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[Assistant] If you believe this, if you practice this, if you go into this. And so it was like the


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[Assistant] Basically I've imbued so much power in my hand that there is now this limitation of don't use that wrong. Like don't, don't hurt someone with that. So the reason he would change the yaunt is because I fucking hit people with my fist. So if I'm hitting people with my fist with the original yaunt,


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[Assistant] You can be damaging people in a way that is not...


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[Assistant] So to change it to meta, so that I'm still punching someone in the face, but I'm punching someone in the face with meta, what this yaunt does...


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[Assistant] through the process of like slamming people with it, is it breaks down their walls that are in the way of their path of Buddhism.


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[Assistant] Lasting through the walls with my fist, with my faith, with my...


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[Assistant] They're internal and external. They're internal to each person.


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[Assistant] So, I am constantly trying to break these walls down in the process of being a Buddhist, and by shooting meta,


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[Assistant] With my fist, I am helping other people break down their walls.


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[Assistant] It's the things that you don't know, like you can't know and so you do things wrong out of ignorance or you.


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[Assistant] Fail to see things the way they are out of ignorance, or you cannot walk the path.


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[Assistant] Even though it's on my fist, I haven't really thought about that. But, this idea of compassion


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[Assistant] For many ties, not for all ties, I think a lot, there are a lot of ties who do not actually think this way even if this is what sportsmanship is in a general sense.


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[Assistant] There is a true degree of gratitude and respect to your opponent.


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[Assistant] There is actually a lot of true earning in Muay Thai.


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[Assistant] Where, like, you don't make money if you don't fight.


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[Assistant] The kids in my gym are mostly middle class, so it's less that way. They get to keep their money most of the time. Uhm, some of them give it to their parents and so it's got a little bit of the like underclass roots to it. But, uh,


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[Assistant] You actually are earning fucking 500 bot on a fight for your family kind of thing. If you don't have an opponent, you don't fight. So there's a like, gratitude towards that opportunity.


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[Assistant] Doesn't, to my understanding, and I don't fight in the West, I don't fucking see it.


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[Assistant] I don't see people in the west showing gratitude for their opponent. Like, it's mostly, this person won't fight me, that person pulled out, like all this complaining about how their opponent was too brawly or too whatever, whatever. There's not a lot of gratitude to someone else having trained hard and worked hard and coming into the ring to have this experience with you.


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[Assistant] When she loses a fight, she's like, thank you so much to my opponent for fighting so hard.


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[Assistant] But the reason this is Buddhist is not just because Metta is a Buddhist concept, but in, in being Buddhist,


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[Assistant] You are trying to release yourself from the cycle of suffering.


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[Assistant] Which is existence, or consciousness. Consciousness is suffering.


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[Assistant] And so you're trying to release yourself from this chain, but in the process you are also constantly having loving kindness.


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[Assistant] Get somewhere in your moi or whatever this thing is, the love and kindness is wishing that same process, that same release, that same improvement for everyone else.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and yet Thai Buddhists will poison dogs.


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[Assistant] And the way, the loophole of this is it was the dog's decision to eat the poison, I just put it out.


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[Assistant] It was my opponent's decision to fall apart like that. I just put the possibility there or something. Uhm, but I think that-


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know if that's a good one or not, it just came to mind. Uhm, but that's why


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[Assistant] I destroyed you aggression like someone getting their ass completely kicked. Uhm, which is why a fighter can, I've done enough in the fifth round to go backwards.


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[Assistant] Shared value of compassion or metha in Buddhism, Thai culture, and traditional Muay Thai.


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[Assistant] For sure. Ajahn Sarat, who is like, top trainer in Thailand, like, one of the most feared men, uh,


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[Assistant] He does not like these three round formats. And he was talking shit about them. And it was really beautiful. He actually said it in English. He said, this is not a gentleman's sport.


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[Assistant] There's a kind of, in Buddhism, this, don't worry so much about people who are bad, people who sin, people who do this or that, that's not your problem. Karma comes to everybody.


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[Assistant] They're dealing with their karma, that's why they are the way they are. You're dealing with your karma, that's the way you are. Is that like, if someone has a weakness in a fight, and you're exposing it, you're like, that's your karma, like that's your weakness, that's your problem.


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[Assistant] I do, I thought I was talking about Ning when we were talking about that, but uhm.


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[Assistant] Well, we watched this fight last night that was a, uhm,


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[Assistant] Estonian guy. Against a Thai guy. And uhm.


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[Assistant] The, the Thai guy was southpaw, and the Estonian guy had this really nice right cross, but every time he threw it, the Thai guy would just slam him with this fucking intensely hard left kick. Uhm, and he basically was just


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[Assistant] Conditioning this Estonian guy to associate every time I throw my favorite weapon, I'm gonna get kicked. And all the Estonian guy had to do was throw two, like all he had to do was just add something on top of it and be like, still my favorite, but uhm, he wasn't. Instead he was just building this


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[Assistant] His weakness and his fear was just getting amplified every second, and his own corner was just getting so frustrated with him, they're like, oh, he's just scared, like he keeps backing out.


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[Assistant] Well, the Thai guy was one of these, like, heavier dudes who actually really love watching fight. They have these amazing performance styles when they're, like, uhm, kinda pudgy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, or if you're a Durnfighter, you keep going forward and let them just drown.


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[Assistant] You don't have to dance back and be like, okay, this is done. You can also have the like, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I wouldn't go so far as to say it's meaningless, but it has less meaning, for sure.


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[Assistant] When we came here and moved to Lana,


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[Assistant] Who was gonna like, live the life of a knock-moy. And Kevin and I were amazed because he never fought.


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[Assistant] So I can see what you mean by like, without the fights, it's just not, it's like you're playing a part.


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[Assistant] Is that this, this dry month just happened.


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[Assistant] I mean, it didn't come out of nowhere, like we've been struggling and scrapping and you know, able to kind of...


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[Assistant] Because I'm me, I'm doing all the things that I normally would be doing, like not a lot.


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[Assistant] It's like the gunslinger who gets to go try to have a new identity in an area that doesn't know him.


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[Assistant] It's a, it's not an easy, like, oh I have this answer. Uhm.


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[Assistant] The thing about fighting is that I really love fighting. I also really stress out and


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[Assistant] The thing about wanting to fight a lot or get back in the ring or like make it three a month not one every three months in order for you to be able to train up to the one kind of thing is that


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[Assistant] In the same that we, we've talked a lot about how so much can be packed into one training session, which is like two or three hours long and it's like an entire


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[Assistant] Like, roadmap of different emotions and physical things going on and mental processes and all these things is that those are all packed into fights too. And


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[Assistant] If you only have one and you put a lot of emphasis on it and it becomes this like defining thing.


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[Assistant] I think there's a, a fantasy about


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[Assistant] But they're not as significant as you think they are because they will repeat themselves and they also will be buried or resurface or any of these other things and you only understand that by doing it a lot.


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[Assistant] Well, okay, let's take for example Nan, who's at the fight, who is at the gym, the Thai Tom at the gym.


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[Assistant] Part of Petrin Rong, she has her own trainer and they use the space and then she stays and does clinching, sparring, her own bag work, all this type of stuff. She loves Muay Thai. She's...


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[Assistant] Level Y is a beginner, uhm, she has maybe like six or seven fights, something like this.


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[Assistant] Uh, being a fighter and like, oh, she works very hard, like she's very, um, dedicated and like serious, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, so she and I have only recently started sparring together. Uhm, and I'm 5'1".


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[Assistant] I say 5'2", which is not true, I'm 5'1", and that's like, on a good day. I'm so small, and, uh, she's the first person I've ever sparred with who makes me feel long. She's not a lot shorter than me, but she's just a short-limbed, like, compact, um, shape.


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[Assistant] But, so the reason we're talking about her is that recently she had two fights, back to back, they were like two days apart. Uh, Krunu booked one for her at JF Muay Thai, which is in Pattaya. She went and she fought a girl who had like more than 30 fights, was totally outclassed in the fight, uhm, lost.


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[Assistant] Came directly back to training the next morning without her coach. He trains her once a day, so she was training herself in the morning, afternoon, sparring with me again, and then she fought the next day, so like two days apart, and then she won that second one.


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[Assistant] Also, thank God for me being at the gym as long as I have. They totally are like,


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[Assistant] If you're bigger and there's someone, there's a smaller opponent, you don't get to be like, you have to take it, like it's the smaller one gets to say yes.


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[Assistant] But even if you do win and then lose, the loss is not that bad because you still have the win right behind it. It's like a, you know, you can't win them all kind of thing.


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[Assistant] I just, that girl had way more experience than me, it was bigger than me, I didn't fight well that day, whatever the thing is, it's like, I think it's similar to


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[Assistant] When you're really, uh, tired or strained or whatever in training and you wanna quit and you


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[Assistant] I get upset when I lost the exact same way that I did four months ago, but I've had six fights in between.


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[Assistant] The shape of my river, or like the current of my river, the width of it, the speed of the flow, like all of those things have shaped what I am.


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[Assistant] You're not talking about the shape of rock I am and you're not talking about my river. Like you're talking about that thing over there.


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[Assistant] And it's like, thank you, I appreciate your intention, I hate your fucking words.


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[Assistant] Like, there's- I've read this like meme and tie recently that I really liked that was about how-


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[Assistant] You don't know until the end of the movie whether that character was good or bad. Like, people can be kind of in the middle.


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[Assistant] You have to introduce it, because I don't know what aspect you wanna...


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[Assistant] Right, and so you basically have two, you're like bifurcated,


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[Assistant] Where you're like, I feel safe like this and I feel like I can hurt you like this.


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[Assistant] So much between the two, because then when you're like this, you're like, I can't hit you.


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[Assistant] Is that you then need to marry the trigger to where you feel protected.


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[Assistant] It drives me crazy. We were talking about how I'm now doing paths with Kruden more.


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[Assistant] Kridan's not used to holding pads for me, so I'm like new, and he's discovering things about me, which is always a little like, honeymoon period or whatever. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Awesome that both of them are super strong, but I don't kick or punch because I never stand close enough in my fights.


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[Assistant] There's a saying that what you practice is how you fight, or the way you practice is how you fight, or any of these things. Those are feelings, those are like body positions.


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[Assistant] Totally, if someone is not trying to stay away from me or trying to keep me off of them, my right kick and my right punch are really strong.


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[Assistant] That one of the fighters at our gym who we've just talked about, Bank or Tong Chai, he does not fight the way he trains.


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[Assistant] Because when he trains he's relaxed and he keeps his hands here and he can punch all day. From the shoulder slot I'm talking about. And has beautiful strong punches on the pads. Explosive. And actually in sparring pretty good he'll like take some and then come out. But he also has two positions where it's defense or striking and he can't go between the two.


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[Assistant] And so he's like in fights, he's afraid of being knocked out or hurt and so he keeps his guard like this but he never punches out of it because he doesn't train with his guard like this.


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[Assistant] It totally revealed to me why I feel so different when some- like if I'm sparring or something.


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[Assistant] I'm sparring and I'm like either in defense or offense and it's like whack-a-mole.


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[Assistant] You're like covered and then you have to change your position in order to start firing out.


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[Assistant] It's just inefficient. It's mentally draining. It's mentally cumbersome.


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[Assistant] I think that the like purest form of how to train this is Yodkunpon's elbow sparring because you're only throwing elbows and you're hitting guard and having your guard hit and you are training the mental


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[Assistant] Triggers of if you're close enough to be elbowing me, you're definitely close enough for me to be elbowing you.


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[Assistant] And you feel those rhythms and holes. So it doesn't have to all be elbow sparring. You should do that same thing with


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[Assistant] Punching, with kicking, with knees, whatever, which is like, I feel your rhythm, I feel getting hit. There's too much separation between, uhm,


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[Assistant] The safety or comfort of your pad man and you.


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[Assistant] And they hit you back, like, my pedman hit me back. He hit me back a lot. Totally. But I trust PNU, so it's like...


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a, there's a guy who was just at our gym who, uhm, is very...


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[Assistant] Very unable to do the like, more relaxed sparring.


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[Assistant] Uhm, people say that Thai sparring is very light, kind of, like the, it's not the way that people in the west think it is, but he just could not take his power down, like he could not


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[Assistant] He could not go light, basically, and he's big, so it's not...


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[Assistant] What this reveals, or what Kevin and I talked about after this, is that just means you have no defense. Like, if your defense is constant,


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[Assistant] Uhm, work on your defense. But that means that you're like, offense, defense do not work together. It's uhm.


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[Assistant] That's the thing that drives me crazy is, uh, people who like to point out all my scars and they're like, oh you're stupid, you've been cut so many times, and I'm like...


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[Assistant] Yeah, it'd be like if you had a shotgun and you could only cock it in the like Arnie style, like vertically like this. And so you had to like put it on your shoulder to shoot and then you had to take it down to do the like Arnie cock and then you had to put it back up rather than being able to like


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[Assistant] And I'm sorry, Caro, for talking about you so much. Because we love you so much.


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[Assistant] Getting very upset that she was not bringing her leg back. This is not.


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[Assistant] No. She was not bringing her leg back before knees, and the reason they were so upset is because she throws so many knees. And if you just bring the leg back in order to put power in it, it would be a knockout. They're like, just do this thing and you will kill this girl.


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[Assistant] I can rewind to my own career in Chiang Mai throwing little like rabbit knees in clinch and then getting so pissed off and then being like, silly.


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[Assistant] So they're all yelling at her, they're all, like, getting all, like, just do this thing, blah, blah, blah. And I said to Caro, cause I have more experience in this, I'm like, Caro's the same as pad work. I'm like, when you're doing pads and you grab someone, you bring your leg back and you knee. And she totally had this moment of recognition, she was like, oh.


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[Assistant] Like giving her an example of when her body has felt herself doing what she's supposed to be doing.


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[Assistant] The thing is you can't even collapse these like, uh,


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[Assistant] Techniques or skills to moments in which you actually do that. So,


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[Assistant] If there are times that I do punch out of my guard, if you were like, Sylvie, think of when your, uhm,


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[Assistant] I don't know. Punching Champ back because you've like, waited for his set to be done or something? I'm like, ah!


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[Assistant] And so you find the, you find the feeling of when you're comfortable.


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[Assistant] Striking out of it, and then you recreate that into your training so that you do that all the time. You don't just conceptually like, make it up.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I haven't looked at it that closely, but it makes sense, like it seems reasonable, it would require like really looking into.


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[Assistant] If there's any footage of him. Anywhere. Cause fucking of course you wanna see it.


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[Assistant] And Diesel Noi, in a very quick and sad response is always like, no there's nothing. It's like,


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[Assistant] It's like everything was lost in the fire kind of response. Like, it's all gone. There's nothing.


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[Assistant] And even the possibility of that, he's like, there are people who won't let that out. Like he honestly feels like, uh, uhm, kind of,


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[Assistant] Like, people won't let him be seen, kind of thing.


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[Assistant] There's so little of Diesel Noy in video that he has it all saved on his phone.


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[Assistant] And so, this fight, this like, holy grail fight, that honestly the way it was found,


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[Assistant] If we have not been talking about Diesel and Oil for years,


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[Assistant] Bringing, bringing his name up and bringing community around him, uh, a few years ago he was having serious heart problems. He's already had heart surgery and it was looking like he was gonna need another heart surgery. And we tapped into the community and people were like, let's help Desoloy. People around the world love him.


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[Assistant] To have that same community find this holy grail out of nowhere and be like, this is here.


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[Assistant] Fighter of the Year fight against Samard. That you can now see. That came out of...


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[Assistant] The community of patron that loves Muay Thai, that loves the history of Muay Thai, that loves preserving Muay Thai.


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[Assistant] Collected and gathered and everyone wanted to like name everything after themselves. People just wanted the biggest phones.


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[Assistant] And the smallest bones were thrown out because people wanted the bigger, better ones. So they're like, where are the fucking baby dinosaurs? Where are the small dinosaurs?


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[Assistant] Massive things, because those are the ones that people kept.


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[Assistant] He had heard about Diesel in Hawaii and people talked about him as this, like, uhm, just...


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[Assistant] Unbelievable fighter who nobody had ever seen. Pino had never seen him. He saw photos of him in a magazine looking amazing, but like had never seen him on TV a lot. Wasn't on TV, all these things, and he is incredible, and so it's like...


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[Assistant] You don't know whether it's like the writers made the man or whatever the thing is, but because there was no record, there's no video, there's no whatever,


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[Assistant] So you have this like, I beat Tyson or whatever the thing is.


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[Assistant] And he's as amazing, if not more than what you thought.


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[Assistant] And, uh, he's very big, Shae's very tall, like, tries to take...


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[Assistant] Yeah, like I s- it all makes sense, like all the things that he's saying, I see it.


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[Assistant] It's you, you buy the original Rembrandt and put it in a vault.


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[Assistant] Heroes, and just like, I'm gonna cry. Just...


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[Assistant] They made Muay Thai what it was in the golden age. They made that. And it, it was...


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[Assistant] Confluence of promoters and gyms and other fighters and all these different things and popularity at the time, but Samson, who we just brought to the gym for three days.


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[Assistant] He honestly, we brought him to teach, he just wanted to clinch and spar the whole time, like he just wanted to like, be a little gym rat.


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[Assistant] He drives a taxi, he's not a trainer, he's not a legend who, like, gets to...


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[Assistant] Be recognized all the time for the amazing things he accomplished. We have that 123 all-time greatest fighters book.


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[Assistant] That almost all the people we've had sign that.


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[Assistant] Because he was just like so moved by it when he was signing it for Shay, but that's the kind of thing that like...


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[Assistant] You're like, oh I have this thing, I want that book, I want this book that has all these legends in it.


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[Assistant] And that legend is moved by it.


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[Assistant] Have such interesting conversations, we should record them.


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[Assistant] We thought for a long time about what to call it, cause it's gotta be...


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[Assistant] So, we kinda liked the Muay Thai bones because it's very pared down. It's like the skeletal structure of just no frills, but also you have a bone to pick, no bones about it.


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[Assistant] Which is in Thai, when someone has bones, uh, it basically means they have experience and strength.


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[Assistant] A difficult person to fight has bones.


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[Assistant] Right, or someone who actually is kind of on the rise.


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[Assistant] So, kroduk jaj is like big bones. I have, I have big bones.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we just chat. Kevin and me. We just cover everything. It's like free association.


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[Assistant] Status and fights coming up and fights gone by and things like that.


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[Assistant] I'm familiar with Stamp. I'm not super familiar with Janet, although her name comes up a lot. She's very, uh, well respected for good reasons and well known.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in the west, I've seen a little bit of her pad work because it comes up.


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[Assistant] But I'm familiar with Stamp because, one, I've followed her for a really long time, two, I've fought her, uhm, she's from Ryong, which is, uh,


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[Assistant] Well, she's actually from Chantaburi, but she's from nearby, uhm, and then has moved to Fairtex shortly after I fought her.


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[Assistant] Like, very shortly after I fought her, she moved to Fairtex. She's their first sponsored female fighter. And she has changed, man. Like, I can't- Kevin was very impressed with Janet because he's more familiar with her, so he could see what she was doing in the fight that was different from what she has previously done, or you could see what she's been working on.


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[Assistant] That's Stamp when she's 8 years old. She's now 21, 22, something like that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so this, he filmed her for a couple of years, many many years ago, uhm, and so it came out when she was already a teenager, but it was showing her when she was like 8 years old, and she's, uhm, kind of the same...


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[Assistant] Kind of phenom, petchy jaw type thing. Fighting when very young, supporting her family when very young. She was fighting against a young girl named Pet who has not had a story follow her.


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[Assistant] Which was shortly after she fought Petty Ja and lost. Those- those were close together.


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[Assistant] Uhm, both have gone into MMA and, uhm, had different...


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[Assistant] Everyone's like, you're good already, like you're the top already, nobody can fight you, whatever. And so it's a stagnation. Whereas when you bring in another discipline...


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[Assistant] Basic thing, but you have all of the bones and all of the experience underneath it.


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[Assistant] To make you a very experienced, aware student within a new style. So it's kind of like a...


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[Assistant] Because everything is very unfamiliar and very weird switching your stance, but I have all this experience behind it. So it's like you have all the knowledge and experience, but you're a beginner and it just kind of like recalibrates.


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[Assistant] I-I didn't notice. I knew that it was three minutes you pointed out while we were watching, which to me...


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[Assistant] Uhm, the fact of it is exciting, but the actual, like, how does it play into how the fight is didn't register to me.


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[Assistant] We've been talking recently a lot about how distance is like this secret huge component in what se- separates.


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[Assistant] Rounds at a time, and it's the same thing where they're like waiting each other out who's gonna be the counter-striker, but the distance they were taking was deflated.


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[Assistant] Of energy, which their fight was very like.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but it's, it's interesting, it's uhm, not a matter of like having to,


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[Assistant] The proximity was exciting.


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[Assistant] Whereas the fights I was watching last night, the proximity was completely different.


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[Assistant] Okay, so coming up, if we're gonna stay on female fights.


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[Assistant] Okay, he's very complimentary of her strengths. Uhm. Yes. That sounds very good.


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[Assistant] Quite young, but she's been fighting for a really long time. She has really nice...


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[Assistant] Thai styling in her, uhm, fighting. And she's fighting against Lomany. Lomany is a very good, uhm, Thai female fighter.


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[Assistant] People who follow me may know her as the one who I fought on Yokohama who gave me my first huge face of stitches. Uhm, but.


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[Assistant] We've been following Lomani for a long time and she has this incredible...


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[Assistant] Yeah, we don't know a lot about Amy's training. Or we don't follow her other than when she's fighting.


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[Assistant] We don't know a lot about Lominy's training, but from what we know, Lominy is not like training all the time. She fights for these like amateur...


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[Assistant] Games, uh, that happen in Thailand where they put on the pads and they fight usually like university.


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[Assistant] Students fight each other, but like the big names of Thailand, uh, last night Chomany, who is one of the best for a very long time, was fighting against Nong Buu, who is like a rising to the best.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and they're in the same weight category, and so they're fighting each other in amateur Muay Thai, which is so strange because they are top professional, that would be a huge side bet.


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[Assistant] But with no side bet in this amateur thing, it's like they go together and who gets gold and who gets-


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[Assistant] Uhm, so Lomany fights against top competition in that type of, uhm, setting, but we do not see her fighting.


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[Assistant] Uhm, neither is Amy Pearney, but she has really good close range turns.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know what promotion it was, but she, I think it was a left hook.


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[Assistant] Female fighters are going to be fighting in America.


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[Assistant] For a while the female fighters they were sending to Japan for title fights were just like, they were


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[Assistant] No, she became called Killer Elbow and they really like, uh,


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[Assistant] But we've seen her doing it against western fighters who, the way that Thai fighters don't train or use body punches, westerners don't train or use, typically, throws.


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[Assistant] Uhm, has lost to Lumine a number of times, so Lumine is...


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[Assistant] Uhm, Kevin and I were talking, and this was not recording.


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[Assistant] So we've had this discussion and it wasn't recorded, so we're having it again, so it's a little bit paraphrased.


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[Assistant] Good matchups, money thrown into it, high production, uhm, they had a live stream.


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[Assistant] With, uhm, color commentators and announcers, they actually gave a little bit of information about each of the fighters, which is really good, rather than just like, red assist and blue assist, like there was a little bit of bias.


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[Assistant] Who is from up in the north and has been on more, uhm,


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[Assistant] Bangkok and against Westerner fight cards. As of recently, she fought Candice.


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[Assistant] I fought her, but because her, her weight is for a tie higher, and so it's within this range of kind of a, a average female Western fighter. Okay, where are you going with this? She's getting, she's getting exposure to the,


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[Assistant] Female fight cards tend to have Western versus Thai. There tend to not be Thai versus Thai female fight cards. Uhm, but in this, like,


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[Assistant] The north was kind of isolated and Bangkok was kind of isolated.


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[Assistant] Patia doesn't have a female, uh, fight scene in...


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[Assistant] Pulling women together, uh, in these fight cards in Bangkok and in Patia, uhm, and maybe bringing some women up to Chiang Mai, which is what we're trying to do is start pulling women from south and


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[Assistant] Up into Chiang Mai by creating more of a unified scene. Uhm, it's good for female Muay Thai all around.


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[Assistant] Right, it's, as a Western female fighter coming with my views of


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[Assistant] Feminism and what I like to see in, uh, equal opportunity for women and the kinds of fight cards I'd like to see. Not a big fan of three round fights, not a big fan of having to wear makeup.


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[Assistant] Jade's promotion was sponsored by Hooters, gave them money so it was possible for this fight card to happen.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but in so doing, there were like choreographed Hooters Girls dance sequences between rounds.


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[Assistant] Is its own thing, but when you're always combining sexualized women with female fighting, I'm not a huge fan. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what I said, uh, before that I thought was... noteworthy.


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[Assistant] In, in the pre-existing all-female fight cards that we've seen, the fighters were sexualized.


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[Assistant] As well as the kind of legendary cruise instructors.


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[Assistant] It's called preserve the legacy for a reason, we're preserving something, so the sense of urgency to make it, produce it.


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[Assistant] And put it out is that a lot of these men are


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[Assistant] Whereas right now there are some who just kind of don't because they're not in that lifestyle.


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[Assistant] So finding them and getting that is, there's a, there's a sense of urgency to


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[Assistant] Yeah, they wanted more, like, they wanted him to be more versatile or...


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[Assistant] A different Jim from Lana. But he would come to Lana to clinch with our boys because his Jim didn't have the right.


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[Assistant] Size or quality or whatever. So you'll see this where gyms will go to other gyms as guests in order to get, um, training experience with them.


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[Assistant] Okay, Kevin wants me to be short about this.


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[Assistant] Other people use the long clinch. If I said den, show me the long clinch. He can do it. He's like, you just go like so, and that's it. If I'm like big, show me the long clinch. He goes like so, and that's it. And the way that they know it,


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[Assistant] That is it. Like, it's just that. And then it's like, okay, well you can get out by doing this.


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[Assistant] Tonadette worked with me for an hour and I still don't quite get everything he was showing me because it's so, every little piece makes a huge difference in how to roll the shoulders to lock it so that when Big does it, you get out like this. When Tonadette does it, you do not fucking get out, like,


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[Assistant] Which is why going and learning this from Tanadette while we can is like,


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[Assistant] Enthusiast? Enthusiast, that's the word we came up with. So, I go around and uhm, am always interested in feeling and learning.


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[Assistant] The weaknesses of the clinch that you already have because they're getting out of it. But one of the big breakthroughs I had, like the first holy shit


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[Assistant] You can lock, but people can get out of your lock because you have all these gaps.


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[Assistant] And then when I realized you can use your head as another appendage to create this like vice lock, it was a game changer.


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[Assistant] Then, as I got better at that and I was working with other people who were using their shoulders in a certain way, another breakthrough that's like, oh my god, the next...


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[Assistant] Tanada's long glitch is that once you lock in place the upper body,


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[Assistant] All the movement is lower body. You lock that upper body part to make it possible. If you're not locked up here, you can't do his lower body stuff.


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[Assistant] Anyone is gonna be like, how do I deal with this? And then he's just moving you from the lower body, which is maybe something that was like my own-


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[Assistant] With the legs, you have to distract up top. And if you want to do anything up top, you have to distract with the legs and vice versa. Tonadette's lower body clinch.


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[Assistant] For, for people who don't follow, uh, or who, I don't know, Diesel Noy is maybe 58 years old. He was undefeated as a Lumpini champion for four years, maybe a little longer.


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[Assistant] Pain that you can feel in him is that he loves Muay Thai and he has this fire for Muay Thai that did not burn out the way that you can kinda like fade out.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it was snatched from him in a very tragic story. I find his story very sad.


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[Assistant] But he's this incredible personality. He's six foot one, which is huge for a tie.


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[Assistant] And he is so much larger than life in his personality. He has one setting which is like eight thousand percent.


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[Assistant] He's the legend of legends, he knows everybody, and when


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[Assistant] He was going to come to the Moikau Summit. He's the greatest knee fighter of all time. He's like the king of knees. Uh, when he was going to come to the Moikau Summit, he was the name that everyone was buzzing about. They're like, when is Diesel going to be here? And people from the neighborhood and Pnoo's family came to the gym just to see him, just to like watch him. So there's this like,


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[Assistant] Incredible figure that is Dee Silnoy that he's totally aware of. He doesn't have a big head, but he knows what he is.


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[Assistant] Muay Thai, which is the young Thai boys in gyms. So you'll see these men.


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[Assistant] When you put them around young Thai boys who are in the camp, kind of cutting their teeth, like, starting to be at Lumpini.


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[Assistant] And it's, you would never think, like, what this person needs is to just be around the, like, beginning, like the embers.


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[Assistant] Uh, Bum Rung is like 70, Diesel Noi is like 58, and they'll just like chat with each other or they'll talk about what's going on. Diesel Noi loses his shit to go yell at Alex, who's a 17 year old Italian kid who's been raised at Petru Rung.


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[Assistant] He saw him fight on TV, sitting with Bam Rung, and Alex happened to lose that fight. Uh, he didn't fight well in that fight. It's not typical of Alex, but because of that, Diesel Noy has been like, on him about his training.


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[Assistant] You can do the technique wrong with Diesel Noi. He wants the fucking I'm gonna kill you heart.


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[Assistant] If you fall down, but you do so hurling yourself into the movement, he's like, yep.


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[Assistant] If you look at the faces of my trainer when he gets thrown by Diesel Noy, or when he takes a knee through the belly pat, he is not a joke. Diesel Noy is


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[Assistant] When he rips, he's like, you do it like this, you'll see the trace.


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[Assistant] He has this hard recovery thing, he's like you go to the point of breaking and then you recover.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which is where the Thai national team trains Ajahn Sarat, who I mentioned before, who's like the most feared.


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[Assistant] Man in Thailand, his intensity as a trainer is...


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[Assistant] It either breaks you fast, or you become fucking hard because of it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we were watching Sao Sing, kneeing with this trainer.


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[Assistant] And she got to this place where like, she was ripping these knees, and it was...


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[Assistant] Like the world stopped, like just watching this energy that she had and when the round was over and she had-


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[Assistant] And so there's this, there's this thing about


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[Assistant] Becoming the tiger or the werewolf that has the pain of when he's the wolf. And there's this like, I don't want to be in that state. That's the monster.


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[Assistant] We had this really beautiful image in a show that we were watching, Hemlock Grove or something, where the guy, uhm, he's a werewolf, he becomes the wolf and the wolf eats the skin that it has.


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[Assistant] It feels like that when you, you cannot stay in that state because it's so hard. Diesel noise is like, get in there. Like.


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[Assistant] You don't get, you don't get comfortable, but he's like, you are not Bruce Banner.


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[Assistant] You are also the fucking Hulk. Like, you get into it. And so it's been...


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[Assistant] Physically, it's hard. Who cares? Like physically, it's hard all the time. I train very hard. Physically, you can push through things. You can just put your head down, grind out the sprints, whatever. It hurts. It's not a big deal. Physical pain's not that big a deal. The emotional pain and intensity that Diesel Noy lives in and asks you to like, take on,


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[Assistant] And then when you kind of pull yourself back out of it, you have to acknowledge that you had those thoughts and you feel those things and you're like, oh no, I really was going to kill that person or whatever. It's like a little shameful. Um, by, by touching it all the time or not all the time, but like getting used to touching it.


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[Assistant] It's- it does not feel good, like-


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[Assistant] I don't know, you're like, what does that feel like? It feels painful, it feels awful.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but it's also this very pure, what you're trying to get to with the heart, like,


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[Assistant] People can perform the fighter's heart, and it's like being, um, like, suave, or cocky, or like, I'm gonna, like, really dominate you, or something.


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[Assistant] Dizel Noi turning like this. You hear like a pop and Dizel Noi like jumps up on the corner of the- it's during a fight.


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[Assistant] I had, uhm, I had a very, very hard day the other day. I had a full on breakdown and had to go outside and cry. Like, hard. But, I was taking care of it. I went to the front to cry alone like an adult.


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[Assistant] Like calm down, have like some Vipassana centering in front.


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[Assistant] So I'm sitting there trying to get my shit together and Diesel Noy comes out to sit with me. I can't, like I can't.


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[Assistant] And he's, he's like, what's the problem? And I'm like, it's okay. Like trying to get him to be like, I'm like, it's okay. We don't have to talk about it. I'm fine. Let me like just have a moment. And there is this incredible


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[Assistant] Not you. Maybe he thought I was having a breakdown because he's hard on me. I don't know, but that wasn't it. And when I finally, uh, like.


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[Assistant] Cry blurted out what my problem was cause I couldn't handle it anymore. He just had this like, ugh, something.


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[Assistant] He said chiwit nakmoy. That means, the word chiwit means life, but it also means fate.


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[Assistant] He was saying, this is the fate, this is the life of a nakmoy. Is to break like this.


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[Assistant] The reason I was falling the fuck apart is because of some, uh,


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[Assistant] Intensity I have with Krunu and he was kind of being hard with me in order to kind of get me in line or whatever and.


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[Assistant] Uh, uses all of your insecurities to like hammer you into place. It's intense.


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[Assistant] Undefeatable. Nobody would fight him. He went down in weight to fight. He went up in weight to fight. Fucking nobody could beat him.


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[Assistant] And so we see it as like, oh well everyone would love Diesel Noi because he's winning all the time. He was like, when I was, I think he said 14.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he got in the ring, knocked his opponent out in round three, and as he was coming through the ropes, his older brother slapped him and said, you teep like shit.


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[Assistant] He won. There should be this like, hooray, you're unbeatable, as though this is what everyone wants.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and there's still this harshness, and he's like, that is our life. When you win, everyone loves you. When you lose, everyone's yelling at you. You can-


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[Assistant] It's creating a metabolic state.


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[Assistant] In your body, so that you're fuel sources.


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[Assistant] Are different from what the standard American diet is. Most people run on carbohydrate, which is, uh, glucose and sugar.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and when you change the metabolic state of your body, your body does not burn the, like, newspaper.


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[Assistant] I actually changed my energy or any of the positive things that come about as like side effects to me. Uhm, my motivation and initial interest was the, uh, mood stabilization.


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[Assistant] Non-crazy and, uh, brain function.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I was initially pretty surprised by what a difference it made because I thought by staying in ketosis


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[Assistant] Anyway, I should be pretty mood stabilized, like my emotional valleys got a little better.


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[Assistant] I'm not eating sugar every other day, so cutting that out shouldn't have such a big difference, like it's-


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[Assistant] Uhm, on my fasted days, uh, I'm more stable than even on my eating days, which I'm still in ketosis on my eating days. So, I think I was surprised by what a difference it made feeling like I had more


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[Assistant] I have zero difficulty with like, oh, I haven't eaten today, so I have no energy. I don't feel literally a single difference in a deficit between.


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[Assistant] But I don't have any problem in my fights with it, uhm.


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[Assistant] The- I was- we were talking about this over breakfast the other day, uhm, the-


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[Assistant] Which is, everyone's felt it, it's that like, low blood sugar, like, I don't know if I can push through this, like, I don't know if I can throw another kick, like, it's very intense. Uhm, you, it-


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[Assistant] In English we call it a crash, it feels like a crash, like you're just crashing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I still get tired, I'm not like boundless energy, I can fucking go forever, whatever people talk about all this energy. Uhm.


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[Assistant] But my quality of tired does not have that crashing feeling.


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[Assistant] At all. It's like I'm tired, but I can do ten more kicks. I don't want to.


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[Assistant] And it's inspiring too, where I feel like I'm gonna throw up, like, I've-


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[Assistant] I don't know, it's very weird. It's like, I, I feel like I'm gonna throw up, but I'll stop for like,


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[Assistant] 30 seconds and kind of be okay. It's like, okay, we do that again, like.


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[Assistant] I am tired, but not like, crash tired. It's a different quality.


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[Assistant] It's like, it's like when you travel or you've been up for like 36 hours and you're just like, tweaked out of your mind and you're like, kind of, you can't do things, like you can't function.


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[Assistant] Have that, is that kind of like, I'm super tired, but if I tried to go to sleep right now, I'm still functional.


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[Assistant] It's a little bit like that. I need more sleep.


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[Assistant] But I bring it up, I bring it up because nothing is ever nutrition alone. Like, I can't just do this alternate day fasting and like solve the problem. I also need to start catching up on my sleep and getting my rest and kind of like breaking, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, before I started doing alternate day fasting, I had made the decision to fast after my fights, the day after my fights because it kicks in.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which I thought would kind of help kickstart recovery after fights because you have...


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[Assistant] A little bit of extra damage or your body's been through- Stress. It's mostly stress.


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[Assistant] Which makes sense to do when you're training, because I'm actually way more fucking stressed from training than I ever am in fights. Uhm, but Kevin keeps talking about


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[Assistant] Autophagy is what it's called, uhm, which is your body eating its own...


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[Assistant] You're not catching shit. Like for sure. But the like clarity, the like alertness that you get.


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[Assistant] It's also nice because my schedule is a little bit insane. Like, it just never stops.


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[Assistant] That there are times when I don't get to eat.


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[Assistant] When Kevin was fasting every other day and I wasn't, that meant every other day I was eating alone. Which wasn't great.


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[Assistant] Yeah, not fun, whatever. But like, uh, on the days that it was just me eating,


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[Assistant] On days that you were eating, I'm like, oh, today I want this kind of thing. Whereas on days you weren't, I was like, man, I can't decide. Like, super annoying.


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[Assistant] I would not have ever thought if someone asked me, like, is thinking about what you're gonna eat difficult? It's like how people make this argument about uniforms that you don't have to think about, you don't have to expend mental energy on what you're gonna wear, and I'm like, I don't think about what I'm gonna wear, ever.


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[Assistant] Feel two kilos lighter. Like I'm not like unable to push something. Like normally if you lose two kilos or someone gets two kilos bigger than you, now you can't move care about because he's like two kilos more.


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[Assistant] I don't feel, strength wise, any difference at all.


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[Assistant] It's good. Kevin and I talk a lot, so, talking in front of a camera.


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[Assistant] I dunno, uhm, I think that, uh, there are so many different elements to Muay Thai, like it, it touches the edges of so many things.


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[Assistant] This, like, because those things actually are too narrow as topics, they need to kind of bleed into and have these fringy edges around all these other things. Um, because Muay Thai is actually huge.


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[Assistant] So hold on. Uh, and I, what I love about you guys is that you're, you're playing with gender, which is really very much topic of the day. You know, it's very top of mind topic for a lot of people. Uh, let me, let me just, I, there's some things I want to say about your interaction, but first of all, I want to know how it feels to adopt another gender. Trisha, how does that feel? What's it like?


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[Assistant] Women like yourself that sort of, uhm, accessorize their femininity, like exaggerate a little bit. Sometimes you can look at that as a female, female cross dresser. Does that make sense?


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[Assistant] Some people, there is such a thing as getting really, uhm, excited by taking on


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[Assistant] One of those people that I've, I'm swatting off every day that doesn't, doesn't understand that people that are out there on the internet are actually people.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's an issue, right? Uh, and, and it's, um, something that, uh, it's not exclusive to Instagram, right? I mean, it's happening all over the place and, uh, people are doing things to enhance themselves all the time. It's, it's my profession that's offering those services.


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[Assistant] And if we don't know that by now, uh, then caveat emptor, you know what I mean? And I think, uh, I don't know that woman. I mean, if you feel like you hurt her feelings, you should apologize. You don't want to hurt her, I'd assume.


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[Assistant] Right, so, so I don't think it's a big deal, but there is something to be learned from that, which is that photos lie, videos lie too, but if we don't know that photos lie by now.


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[Assistant] There's things coming out that they wouldn't otherwise speak, but the way they speak and the way they speak about it is somebody on drugs. So give them a chance if they've revealed something to come back around and talk about what's really going on. Your brain isn't integrated. Your whole self isn't there when you're loaded.


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[Assistant] I'm saying that the, the two things are not really related. So the chicken nugget thing is Trish on drugs. And what I'm seeing here in this, this video we're watching right now is something we talked about earlier is that your, your identity is, is, uh, um, you know, not, not fully


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[Assistant] That is exactly right. She's a gay, identifies gay male drag queen. That is exactly what that is. I think your construct is exactly correct.


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[Assistant] Uh, whether or not that's your firm, you know, forever identity, I don't know, but that's what you're describing, which is, I don't really feel like a female, but I feel like a female cross-dresser. I like all the female stuff, uh, but I identify as sort of a gay man. Now the question is, are you attracted to gay men?


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[Assistant] Alright, so, so, but hang on a second. I want to jump ahead with something that's on my mind before we look at more video real quick. You said something's really bothering you from your last show or something?


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[Assistant] Okay, so, so Trish, we, we back in the, hey, you know, the, the,


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[Assistant] Sort of the center of the eye of the storm of the pharmaceutical opioid epidemic.


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[Assistant] People were using a lot of opiates that weren't addicts. Now that we would still call that a substance use disorder, cause you're, you know, illicitly using opiates to get high, but it's hard to call them a pill addict per se, which is that history. And now you say you've been addicted, so do you really believe he was an addict? Or just, he just was abusing drugs? Oh no, I was just, you triggered something in me.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's really hard to be as open as Trish is.


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[Assistant] Okay. And you could argue that you're so open Trish that you don't really kind of perceive boundaries normally. If that makes sense. Is that, is that true?


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[Assistant] Right? You can't say, I'm totally open about everything, but I can't trust you. So I'm not going to, I'm not going to be open. It's okay. You don't have to tell everybody everything, but don't claim that you're wide open and telling everybody everything. She's, she's the one that's really wide open too much, too much so, right? I agree.


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[Assistant] That at least attempt going forward that when there are things that should not go out, you'll both agree these things don't go out.


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[Assistant] Right, now stop there, stop with that. So you see, that's the, that's the confusing part. You signed up for this.


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[Assistant] When, when people, you know, when they get into altercations that go that far, oftentimes we advise that they just, this isn't going to work. Is that the case with this relationship or are you both in it and working actively with professionals to help make sure that doesn't happen again?


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[Assistant] I mean, that's the thing. Now, now it's also a sign of like really heavy duty childhood trauma. So are you getting that treated too?


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[Assistant] Okay, so stop. And so, and so Ethan, can you see how when you say something like, this is a weaponized, you're attacking me, that's, that's tough territory for her right now. You got it?


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[Assistant] I mean, it's, you know, the fact that this happened from my perspective, not so surprising given what you, what you tell everybody about yourself. That's part of this whole syndrome. And yes, you have to be extremely careful. You can't, you have to, five steps earlier, you have to do something to make sure you don't get all the way to those dissociative states.


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[Assistant] That's all that, that's all that negative self talk that you know is part of the problem, right? And so, and so Ethan, the good news is you and her relationship has never gone to those places, right? So she obviously trusts you. Not quite.


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[Assistant] Yes, I think Ethan's saying I, I see how tender this is. I apologize where I've triggered it too far. That's what she needs lots of right now. I understand.


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[Assistant] And before you do, I just want to say, this would be a very different conversation. Were she not doing active professional interventions on all of this?


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[Assistant] I don't know what that is. It's for people that are involved with people that have used substances. Oh, okay. And it's, you know, it's to get some support and get some clarity on what they're feeling. I don't think I'll just whatever do that. It doesn't sound like it.


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[Assistant] Right? So you're in, you're in a good therapy for that. Whether or not you have dissociative identity disorder, you know, people argue about whether that even exists. Sometimes just people see that as severe borderline.


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[Assistant] You know, hopefully in therapy is you sort of integrate all those parts so they don't come apart when you have really intense feelings. Make sense?


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[Assistant] So you might look at some of these negative interactions to see if there's something you're attracted to. It's all about attraction from the trauma you get attracted to that you can watch out for.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no. One of these days would be hard. We didn't get into any of the physical boundary stuff.


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[Assistant] Pteroscope, Facebook, it's everywhere. Go to DrRoo.com. You can check it out. DrRoo.tv. It's everywhere.


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[Assistant] We've been through a lot on this show and only, what, 8 episodes? This is our 9th episode. Is it?


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[Assistant] Maybe we should have ended it. Oh, this is eight? We can't- we- we travel-


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[Assistant] He did. He mentioned you to me when I was setting it up. He said that he met you on Adam Carolla's show, right?


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[Assistant] Oh, your parents don't watch here? Well, you mostly do like, nasty stuff.


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[Assistant] Would you do an only, would you like, would you slap titty with your mom? What? Slap?


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[Assistant] I just, I, you know what, nothing personal, I think it's cool that there's a...


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[Assistant] That there's that for what we do. I think award shows are dumb though.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it's all politics. Like, they literally don't- it's literally nothing to do with who's actually the best.


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[Assistant] And all, all, and then their biggest categories are just about how, it's fan vote. So it's all about these really vain creators doing everything they can to beg their fans to vote for them.


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[Assistant] Well, I think she was trying to do, there was this one girl who was like, Tan, you know what I'm talking about, where she sent nudes to everyone who voted for something, but it wasn't illegal, like what Tana was doing. Or it was for registering.


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[Assistant] She was like, hey, donate to the wildfires and I'll send you nudes. And Tana's like, great idea, I'll make, I'll do a federal crime.


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[Assistant] She's a different person. That's what I was saying. It's like, you look like, and what I said was Twinkie, which is rude, and I would never say that. Did you see? Well, but, but I do, but like, again, a reference to her swimsuit. Yeah, I wanna see it. Okay. But then when you look at her, she's like a different person. It's like, who's that Italian?


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[Assistant] Philip DeFranco does a photoshop himself. He does angles. Hold on, you gotta bring receipts. You said angles?


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[Assistant] Hold on, hold on, there's a lot to address there. Okay, first of all, regarding that Philip DeFranco footage you showed me, I feel like for some reason you just wanna call him fat.


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[Assistant] No, but he's not trying to- out there trying to look like a sexy fit model. Like, Tana's out there being like, ooh, look at me, I'm perfect body and I'm a model. I'm a swimsuit model. And then she's turning around and fucking eating a fucking, you know, uh, Egg McMuffin meal every morning.


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[Assistant] I'm not playing this game. Why do I need to play this game? I don't wanna piss anybody off. I like those people.


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[Assistant] Or fuck Mary Cass, put them on a deserted island.


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[Assistant] I would probably marry Jack because he's very sensitive and caring and I feel like he really is attentive to your needs and I think he would be a good husband.


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[Assistant] Maybe he's just shy, and then iDubbbz I would fuck because uhm, he's got crazy energy and you know he's a good fuck.


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[Assistant] I've been thinking about this a lot, so I wrote up a few things, and yes I know, you're only supposed to talk about politics if you have a political science doctorates degree apparently. Do you? Oh yes, a tri- a triple doctorates, no. But you know how people online go, oh you're- why don't you stick to comedy or whatever people say when they don't agree with your political opinions?


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[Assistant] So, oh, so yes, I know I'm not a doctor, it's in political science, but I have some- This episode comes out Tuesday morning. Sorry, excuse me.


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[Assistant] Election day. And here's why I want, here, I'm gonna make my case for why you should go out and vote. If you haven't voted,


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[Assistant] And any of these points are persuasive to you. Please pause this video. We will not go anywhere. We will be here. You pause it, you can come back, you can play it.


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[Assistant] Here's things that I care about that, that the Joe Biden Democratic ticket supports.


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[Assistant] Do you support the women's right to choose what happens to her body, no matter how extreme the circumstances are?


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[Assistant] Of course, right? Because the Republican party and the Republican ticket


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[Assistant] Okay, that's pretty, that, that to me is, is, okay, whatever.


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[Assistant] Do you believe that climate change is the most urgent, is a urgent, uh, uh, time bomb that we need to face immediately and boldly?


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[Assistant] Climate change, oh boy. You don't know what, you don't know what climate change is? May I make climate change? Carbon, carbon, carbon in the air?


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[Assistant] Okay, so climate change, how do you go through life and not know about climate change? You know, the earth is, the ice is melting, the sea is rising.


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[Assistant] Then like Florida goes underwater, literally. Cause it raises the sea level. It's Florida. Okay, fair enough.


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[Assistant] Yeah, a lot of people think, well, you know, but like, okay, good, fair enough.


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[Assistant] Did you notice it's hot? Like in the summer? Like really hot?


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[Assistant] Well once the pandemic's done, me and Hila would love to go visit. Really? We usually go there every year, but we haven't been in a while.


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[Assistant] We're doing better. The last time we won was like two or three years ago, so we're rich now.


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[Assistant] You know what? Can I, can I break something to you? I don't think, I think that that might be closer than what you think. He's super rich. Makeup is one of the most profitable industries. Because it costs like nothing to make. It's like, you sell it for like 50, 60, 70 bucks and it costs like two bucks to make.


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[Assistant] $85,000 presidential Rolex. It's beautiful, but I told Trisha, it is gorgeous, by the way. I think it's really beautiful, but I would be afraid to take it out of my jewelry box.


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[Assistant] Moses, how many, I mean, I don't want to include you to cause friction, but I'm just trying to get a read of the room. Do you think that a lot of people don't know what climate change is?