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[Assistant] And he's implementing what's called a shell coverage. And you'll hear, like you kind of heard Troy, uh, Aikman and Joe Buck talk about on Monday Night Football and the Vikings played the Eagles. And obviously the, the, the, uh, the Eagles were able to gut the Vikings defense, right? Uh, a lot of, a lot of production, a lot of plays.


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[Assistant] And so going into the game, and it's tough sometimes because you don't have a chance to really dive into it as deep as you'd like to, but I'll just kind of describe what that is and why it's like the in vogue defense, right? Guys like Brandon Staley are running it.


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[Assistant] Because it all has to work in hand in hand, right? So your coverage has to work with your run fits in the run game. So obviously your coverage is for the pass game, your run fits is for the run game. And so usually typically in most defenses, sound defenses,


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[Assistant] Everyone's assigned to a gap, right? So let's just say between the guard center, there's someone there on each side. Between the guard tackle, there's someone assigned on each side. And then outside of them, right? Those are all gaps or potential spots where they're running back and the offense is trying to run at, right?


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[Assistant] You have to have, you have to have a coverage that mirrors with that. So your sound for pass coverage and your sound for run defense. This is what's interesting about the shell coverage.


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[Assistant] So the shell coverage really essentially accomplishes two things.


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[Assistant] And the reason why they try to do that is they want to limit the big plays in the passing game. And so they're going to play softer zone coverages out of that to try to limit that.


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[Assistant] The other intent is, is they want to disguise, and not the type of disguise where you saw, and just with the Minnesota Vikings fans, they'll relate with this, where Mike Zimmer would have like one safety down there, the line of scrimmage, and they snap the ball, they run back, and they switch, and they, and they, and they go from, you know, three strong to three weak, or whatever verbage you want to use for that.


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[Assistant] What the shell coverage does, and it primarily starts with the free safety or the weak side safety, is that guy's not trying to give you any tells.


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[Assistant] As a quarterback, you typically look at the safeties, the weak safety in particular, for movement.


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[Assistant] Because a lot of your reads are based on if there's two high safeties or one high safety, depending on how those safeties move, right? And then from there, if it's too high, you might be working to this side of the field. If it's one high, you might be working to this side of the field, right? Yep. And then you've got your zone or man coverage beaters, things like that.


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[Assistant] And you've got your pure progressions where the coverage matters, but you're still looking one, two, three, four, five to your five eligible receivers.


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[Assistant] So this is why if you look at the construct of how quarterbacks and offenses operate, about a third if not more than that of their plays are differentiated between that two high or one high and how you go about reading it.


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[Assistant] And so if you're a defense and you can take that shell coverage and you can make it hard for the quarterback to discern whether it's zone coverage is and whether it's post high or split safety. And even if it's split safety, is it cover four? Is it cover two on this side cover four on this side? Most people call that cover six.


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[Assistant] Is it cover two? And with the way they move their cornerbacks up to play that bump coverage in cloud?


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[Assistant] They can disguise a lot of the things that they do and they kind of hide it with the way their safeties actually don't move as compared to where they did move. So if you can slow down the process and then this pass game for a guy like Jared Goff,


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[Assistant] And I think one of the things that when you saw Vic Fangio be so successful with it in Denver is you had Von Miller, you had DeMarcus Ware, you had Bradley Chubb, you had these, these edge rushers that could get after opposing quarterbacks while they're holding onto the football, trying to distinguish the coverage. So when you take that extra, with that extra


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[Assistant] The pocket's collapsing. You've got a guy hanging on you. You have to move off of the spot, which is a big thing, right? Quarterbacks tend to be less accurate when you have to move off of your traditional spot where you're dropping.


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[Assistant] It really didn't come up quite as much in that particular game, but it's one of the things to kind of keep an eye on moving forward as Minnesota, who I think is going to be a playoff team, as they continue on this season, uh, Harrison Smith was out and he'll eventually come back. But Josh Patel has played great in his, in his place, uh, you know, getting his first star for the Vikings, uh, at that week's safety spot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we talked about hummers. Your phone's ringing and you don't want to say it. Your phone's ringing and you don't want to say it, is that right? It's not, it's not. They're texting, uh, cause apparently that's how everyone communicates. Maybe I should send them back a voice text. You should just send a voice text saying, I love chipmunks.


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[Assistant] I'm from right outside of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, diehard Eagles fan, Philly sports fan, throwing through.


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[Assistant] Spent a little time at ESPN in the past few years and uh, now I'm here at CBS, ready to work with the guys, ready to make some good content.


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[Assistant] But it was a great game, to be honest. Uh, Game of Hurt showed me a lot. You know, starting out the game, what, I think 11 for 11.


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[Assistant] Um, he played really well. Uh, he showed that he could see the field. I think he missed a few throws that I just felt like, you know, him going through his progressions. I just feel like you gotta see, you know, Devontae, um, Devontae Smith, sorry, Devontae Smith on the corner route when he was in the slot or the out route on the slot.


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[Assistant] I just feel like you gotta hit him in that moment. That's just a rhythm throw that he has to get better at seeing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but the defense obviously stepped up. Darius Slay, big play Slay.


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[Assistant] He's, he's that guy, man. He's, he's a Pro Bowl guy. He's, he might be the best cornerback I've seen.


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[Assistant] They can't control who they play though, at the end of the day. They gotta play who they play.


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[Assistant] See, Michael Vick was like special when he was in Philly, right? Like he was a special talent. He was really elite.


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[Assistant] He was fragile, like he couldn't take hits. He was also older in his career.


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[Assistant] He's like a young stud, he's a bull, he's just stocky and there's, it's just nothing, like nothing scares me when I see him running.


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[Assistant] I think that Will's a very interesting character.


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[Assistant] I'll just leave it at that. No, but I think, I think, I think, you know, all you guys like to have fun. I like to have fun.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think Ryan's sneaky, you know, he likes to say his little, you know, he likes to throw his little jabs and then just be quiet.


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[Assistant] I think Breach kinda gets ganged up on a lot. I don't like it.


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[Assistant] I think the other takeaway is that those stupid rankings, precedes and predictions we make in August are inevitably useless. Which, that's the whole point.


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[Assistant] So Jaguars got steamrolled after going up 14-0 today, that team?


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[Assistant] Love it. Love it. Billy, Billy came back at heat tonight. Uh, before Brenton keeps dunking on himself, just take a look at the LCBS Sports Expert Picks page. Oh, Wilson's making a run like it's 2021 up in here, sucka.


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[Assistant] I don't even know if this is their best day on offense. You sort of talked about it. They, all they did was throw the ball and they were down early. That, I mean, you can't fumble the opening kickoff because if you do, you're going to give a touchdown. That happened. Uh, you can't take a strip sack because that's going to end in a touchdown. That happened. Uh, and, uh, breach, let me ask you this. They rushed the ball six times combined. The Buccaneers did for, for three yards. If you got six NFL carries in any game, it doesn't matter to the team. Do you think you could get three yards?


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[Assistant] No, you're not. Well, the point is this, the fact that I wouldn't have this conversation tells you how bad the Bucks run game is. And I'll also say this, at no point during this game, because again, it started with an opening kickoff fumble by Rashad, Rashad White.


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[Assistant] Did I feel like the Chiefs weren't going to steamroll this team? Like the Buccaneers never threatened Kansas City as far as I was concerned. And you know, Brenton's all about the revenge games. I do think there was probably some of that last time they played, they got stomped. And the offensive line, as Brenton noticed, much better.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, you talk about Patrick Reed having an edge. I think Andy Reed has an edge too. Like, he's all fun and, you know, Santa Claus during Christmas time, but I think he likes to stick it to people. Uhm, and unfortunately for Todd Bowles, he was on the receiving end of that whooping.


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[Assistant] Breach, let me ask you this, Joe Musso asked me this on HQ, me and BMAC, and it's actually, I was thinking about it during the game, but maybe it's just speculation, pointless speculation and nothing else. Tom Brady looks less happy now than any time I can remember. He's still playing at a high level, he's one of the best players, yada yada yada.


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[Assistant] Does he look less happy to you or is that just the fact that he's thrown a bunch of receivers he would prefer not to throw to?


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[Assistant] I feel like all season he's had that face. And part of it is because he didn't have, God, when he didn't have


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[Assistant] Mike Evans for the suspension game. And no Gronk. And he wanted to get out. He wanted to go to Miami, according to reports. Someone in the comments, Victor, asked if, uh,


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[Assistant] The, uh, things get cupcake-ier for Tampa Bay and they actually do. They're going to win this division anyway, but they just don't feel like they're joking. Like I didn't think of them winning the division, so I wasn't hiding them coming into the season, but they're Atlanta at Pittsburgh. They don't win that game a thousand to nothing. Then at Carolina before they play the Ravens. So they, they have three get-right games. The toughest game being Falcons. Um, but again, I, I don't.


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[Assistant] I don't feel great about this team in December. I mean, excuse me, in January.


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[Assistant] I'll be honest, Breach and I talked about this. I don't think we've ever done a podcast with you when you haven't had something on your mind given the quality that you're putting out there. No offense.


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[Assistant] I was talking about that for a while while you were going on with your little rant there.


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[Assistant] Teams of the AFC as of this game on Sunday night, and I have Chiefs, Bills, and then a distant third, the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Uhm, just based on what we've seen so far. The Ravens have to figure out how to finish football games because they, they should have won. They should be unbeaten. Yeah, absolutely. But I, I mean, the Chiefs and the Bills are the same team, basically. I think there's a lot to love about both teams. Their quarterbacks are both two of the best athletes on the planet.


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[Assistant] And I mean, you know, it feels like the, the 13 second game last, last playoffs, you should go back and forth each and every drive and just comes down to whoever has the ball last. Uhm, the Chiefs are fine. Uh, I think this was sort of, uh,


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[Assistant] We can win without Tyreek game. They ran the ball 37 times. They ran the ball 31 more times than the Buccaneers. Think about that. Andy Reid is not known for running the ball a lot and they ran it effectively. And, um, shout out to Isaiah Pacheco. That dude's wearing number 10.


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[Assistant] That's a lot, a lot of responsibility comes from wearing number 10 in Kansas City. He plays as hard as Tyreek plays. Now he's not Tyreek, but he's fast. He's sort of built the same size and he's just looking to run over people and run into end zones. And, um, I love the way he plays. The fact that he's a seven round pick is, is, um,


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[Assistant] He's running hard too, except for that fourth down, throwing the ball in fourth down. The other takeaway that I had when, um, watching the game is Pacheco was a seventh round pick. Clyde was a first round pick. Again, let's not over draft these running backs.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no kidding. They stayed up late for this and then you're gonna push them out. They have to go to work.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the weather was terrible. That, that didn't help. And I don't want to make excuses with the officiating, but there were some dog crap, terrible calls into this game. And I say this as a Steelers homer, having to defend, having to defend the Ravens. Jerome Boger was in full effect late in the game. There's a roughing call on Brad Stevens versus Josh Allen. That was, it was, it was a tackle after Josh threw the ball.


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[Assistant] And Jerome said afterwards to the pool reporter that I, I saw a hit to the head and neck area and I'm confident that I saw that. My response would be you need to get glasses then because that wasn't even the case. I mean, it's nuts. Now that's not solely why the Bills went on to win that football game.


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[Assistant] The ball was at the plus 41 two minutes ago, then it was pushed to the plus 26.


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[Assistant] No, yeaah, it happens all the time. But, I mean, the bigger takeaway for me was that Lamar Jackson is making himself a lot of money each and every week with the way he's playing. Um, credit to Josh Allen and Sean McDermott and the rest of that team for


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[Assistant] Getting smoked early in that game, the first series of the game, Josh would interception and they came right back after halftime and put it to the, put it to the Ravens. Uh, also worth noting.


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[Assistant] Fourth and goal, the score is tied 20 to 20, fourth and goal with four minutes and 45 seconds to go in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] And we know that Harbaugh's all about analytics and Lamar loves going for it. Uh, they go for it.


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[Assistant] And the worst, here's the thing, it's tied 20-20 for almost five minutes to go in the game. If you don't get it, okay, it's fine. They get the ball to two yard line, the Bills do. So you have a chance to back them up. Worst case scenario, other than a pick six, Lamar throws a freaking interception at the end zone. So the ball goes to the 20. And what I wanted to add to that quickly is that our guy,


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[Assistant] Stephen Oh, uh, huge Ravens fan, does the sports line. He's a, our data science nerd. Uh, he points out that, you know, he said, just assume the math is 50% chance of scoring that touchdown, uh, and a 50% chance, and then a 99% chance that you make the field goal.


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[Assistant] If you do the math, the expected value, that's three and a half points for the touchdown, uh, and 2.97 points for the field goal.


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[Assistant] Yes, three and a half is more than three if they go for it. But the difference is that you are getting those three points, you were going ahead with under five minutes to go and you can avoid things like throwing interceptions in the end zone, in which case the opposing team gets the ball, not at the two yard line, but at the 20 and, um,


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[Assistant] I get it, but that feels like Pete Prisco's conservatism probably would have come into play and been a smart play at that point.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know. I don't necessarily hate them going for it there, but you absolutely under no circumstance can you throw an interception, uh, in the end zone.


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[Assistant] It's not a tie game, they're down three points. By the way, let me ask you guys this. Uh, so the last seven games, here's been the point dimmers and the Ravens win losses. They've, uh, it's been three, four, three, one, one, two, one over those seven games. What do you think their record has been?


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[Assistant] Uh, and decided by one, games decided by one score. I'm just guessing with two and five.


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[Assistant] Breach Dave McNichols in the comments reminds you that, uh, Harbaugh went for two against the Steelers and then the Packers and lost. There we go. It was the Steelers. I can't believe I lost the Steelers. I forgot about the Steelers game. That's the last time they played.


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[Assistant] I just said my rankings are KC, Buffalo, Baltimore, and the AFC.


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[Assistant] Don't, why do we keep following for the Charlie Brown Lucy football trick? Every time that Andy Dalton goes to a new team, he plays well. Some idiot said there's a path to nine wins with the Cowboys, so that numbnuts playing quarterback. I think it's clear that he's good, he's good for one and a half games.


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter, because James Winston's what I was putting in my, the eggs I was putting in that basket, putting that in that basket.


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[Assistant] No, but it's just weird that both you guys, Breach I get, but Brinson, you're just tagging along like you've been hoodwinked and you're joining the Andy Dalton cult. You know what Andy Dalton is.


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[Assistant] No, no, but I, I mean, I would like a little support and push you back into Breach's idiotic theory.


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[Assistant] Okay, there's four, four games in there. How many games left? Uh, 14 games, 13 games to go. Can't do the math. Uh, over or under who has more wins and what are the wins?


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[Assistant] So it's probably four, I'll put four and a half as the over under for Jameis. Do you want to take more or less for Andy Dalton?


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, five, right. Four and a half. I'm just asking, where do you...


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[Assistant] I'll put it to you this way, over the next 14 games, who, if, assume there's a-


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[Assistant] Let's assume there's a universe where Jameis starts the next 14 and another universe where Andy starts the next 14. Who wins the most games?


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[Assistant] Probably reasons for concern, but to your original point, there is, you know, there's a lot of parody going on, which is a good thing.


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[Assistant] I was hoping you said that the walk ended in the same way that the bro fight in the Arkansas.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm talking about, Breach, the guys, all the guys wearing the, uh, the blazers and, and the, uh, Bama thing.


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[Assistant] Ritz just thought about some fight he got in with a bunch of other Bama bros and he's like a suddenly, we don't even know about that.


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[Assistant] Before you go through all the stats and waste everyone's time because, uh, Carson Wentz is terrible. Let me, let me put this to you. Cause as a Steelers fan, I have similar conversations. When fans feel like they know more than


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[Assistant] It's infuriating when those realities inevitably come true. Like what could you possibly see in Carson Wentz that you would say, you know what, I'm gonna trade for this guy.


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[Assistant] Look, he may be a great guy. I'm just talking about on the field and he's going to fix our, our program. I said it in the off season. I think Taylor, I think he's better than he is. And I've seen nothing to, to dissuade me of that notion. Oh my God. Gina Smith is, is legit. He's completing 77% of his passes. Yeah, but I mean,


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[Assistant] That's why fans get so angry. And on top of that, look, Steelers fans have been spoiled, no doubt. Washington fans have not been spoiled. Their owner is a num nut.


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[Assistant] Uh, he got a motorcade out of the bottom of the Jerry Dome, which is the craziest thing I've heard, uh, since I heard Breach talk about Andy Dalton being a Hall of Famer. And I get the frustration coming out of Washington, and there's not gonna be any quick fix. I don't know what to do. I just don't know. Maybe you throw, um,


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[Assistant] My buddy Sam from UNC out there. God, I can't remember. What's Sam's last name? Howl. Sam Howl. Maybe it's Sam Howl out there. Maybe it's old Taylor Heinecke. Uhm, I think they're going to have to be that beautiful. Is there a question, Wince?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Brinson had some crazy theory last week about how he was going to come back, like week five is what Brinson said. I think that's what, that's what Young Record are saying, week five. I think Breach and I both said week six. So, you're busted.


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[Assistant] Russ Wilson still doesn't look right, and maybe that's a fangirl, maybe that's some other stuff, but.


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[Assistant] And we're, we're sorry by the way, you're right, sorry to interrupt you, but it ain't like Cooper Rush is putting up Tom Brady numbers. He was 15 and 27.


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[Assistant] I don't think Devo's here. He don't want that. He don't want that Geno Smith heat after talking up Carson.


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[Assistant] He was my player of the game, my player of the day on HQ today. I, I was given, I was dappin' up Geno Letherner. By the way, this is Geno's full name, which makes him even awesomer.


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[Assistant] Gino Sir, I mean, excuse me, Eugene Cyril, Gino Smith III. That is a fantastic lawyer name, uh, and a fantastic quarterback football name.


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[Assistant] At the end of the year. Gino also rushed for 49 yards too, so he did it with his arms and with his legs.


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[Assistant] Yay, Gino. By the way, the second best part of this game, DK getting a golf cart ride to the doodoo room. Did you see that?


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[Assistant] Yes. Before we talk about the CX, Lions have two first round picks as well. One coming from the Rams. And it's funny to say this, by the way, Wilson Mocktrap 2.0 comes out Monday, so look for that.


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[Assistant] But it's funny to say this, that, you know, thinking about doing this mock draft, like the offensive line is really good.


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[Assistant] The receivers are really good. Amon Ross St. Brown was out. TJ Shark was out. That didn't help. Hawkinson had 81 yard reception today. Almost score.


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[Assistant] Maybe we're making the next step because I said over the first three weeks that this team looked different than last year's team and that they would give up points but not lose the lead. This game was obviously the exception but to answer your question, yeaah, the Seahawks team are in the conversation in that division because


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[Assistant] I mean, the Cardinals suck. They'd be a dog crap terrible Panthers team today. We don't know what Jimmy G's all about. He's probably not great. And then you have the Rams. Yea, Seahawks are absolutely alive, which is hilarious because Russell Wilson's not even there and they fix the offensive line as soon as he left.


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[Assistant] By the way, I don't want to, we missed, I missed the stat earlier, but I just found it. Carson Wentz averaged 4 yards per attempt, uh, in the game that they lost on Sunday. It's the third lowest mark in franchise history.


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[Assistant] No, I think so. And, you know, the opposite of study is a quarterback who throws an interception and loses four fumbles.


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[Assistant] Which is Trevor Lawrence, um, and that had a lot to do with the outcome as well. And yeah, sure. He complained the weather and Trevor Lawrence is going to be fine and all that. That had an impact in how things played out. Uh, Jalen only threw the ball 25 times and Trevor threw the ball 23 times.


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[Assistant] Uh, you noted that Miles Sanders had a huge game and every time I looked up, he seemed to be scoring and the Eagles defense sort of picked up the slack. I think that Jalen bounced back nicely after that pick six on the first series to Andre Sisco, shout out Syracuse.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I think you're right, I think the Jaguars are a good football team. And I, when they were at 14-0, I was like, oh my god, this team's going to be 3-1, and Preston's going to have to be talking about how he was right to pick them to win the division. They're still very much in the mix to win the division. And I,


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[Assistant] The freak occurrence of Trevor Lawrence losing all those fumbles, I don't think that's sustainable. So I think there's very much reason for optimism with Jacksonville. And of course, Eagles are 4-0, and they are, to your point, at least anecdotally, I'll see what Football Outsiders says in a second.


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[Assistant] Seem to be even steven, like there's not a lot of variation in terms of the way they play.


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[Assistant] Interestingly, Football Outsiders has the Eagles' variance as literally middle of the pack. They're 17. Oh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you missed Billy, uh, slap Bryson, uh, screeching around for not being perfect.


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[Assistant] Billy's one of those podcasts, 15 minutes and Breach is already backing down like it's freedom.


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[Assistant] Uh, our buddy Joe Mooses in the comments making, uh, Britson dookie card jokes.


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[Assistant] Princeton hates the U.S. is what I got from that. All right, what's next? Good job, Billy. Breach next week. Don't back down from Billy if he gives you the business.


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[Assistant] So the first, he came in, did a quarterback. Here's the most hilarious thing about the Kenny Pickett era. Uhm, let me back up by saying this. Thomas said all week that, you know, Trubisky's getting better, he's gonna start. Here's the thing. If you know you're going to Kenny Pickett because Mitch Trubisky sucks, let him play the entire game to get some reps. Because guess what? Guess what's coming up?


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[Assistant] The Bills, the Bucks, the Dolphins, the Eagles, and then you get your bye. How about you let Kenny Pickett go out there and wing it around against what's supposed to be a terrible Jets team and get some confidence before you roll him out there against the Bills next week where he's going to get sacked 5,000 times. Number one. Number two, he came in the first five plays, they ran the ball in some form. The most hilarious part was one of those plays was a QB sneak.


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[Assistant] He did two quarterback sneaks including scoring a touchdown in a quarter of work. Big Ben did probably two quarterback sneaks in 20 years of football. Maybe two.


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[Assistant] So, right, suddenly something's changed where the quarterback sneak is a viable option, given that Jacoby Berset and Tom Brady and Drew Brees can always convert it. Whatever.


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[Assistant] Who knows? There's any number of reasons to be curious as to why this...


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[Assistant] They throw the ball down the field. Kenny throws a bomb in the middle of the field. Mr. Risky refuses to throw the ball in the middle of the field. So that's, that's an upgrade, but he throws it about four seconds too late, uh, into double coverage. Chase Claypool was 6-4, uh, looked like he was John Breach out there in terms of his effort to, to, uh, go up and get the ball. He jumped his vertical, let's assume his vertical is 35, maybe higher.


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[Assistant] It was a culmination of crappiness from the Steelers that led to the interception. Second interception, whatever. He threw it late to the sidelines. He got tipped. Third interception was to help Mary at the end of the game. Can you think it was fine? But I'm going to tell you, I don't think anything's going to magically change with that schedule. I'll just write it out to you. I don't know why Tyler waited. Look at who's he fooling?


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[Assistant] MrBiskey was pissed off after the game and that's fine. He didn't play well enough to keep his job and that's no surprise. He is who he is. The defense got steamrolled. Zach Wilson's numbers weren't great.


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[Assistant] His team loves him. I'll tell you that, man. Those guys love Zach Wilson, which is sort of funny because he looks like a, like the most bro-y bro ever. Um, but his first game of the season, cause he had the knee injury in preseason, made some throws on that last drive to got him into the end zone. Breeze Hall played well, yada, yada, yada.


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[Assistant] No, that's a huge thing. That's right. Because with our first round pick, do you have to get another quarterback or can you address other needs?


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[Assistant] Uh, I had them addressing the defense in the first round of this playoff match, right?


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[Assistant] No, just like Tua, if he came out here and threw 50 interceptions and two touchdowns, you're moving on.


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[Assistant] But he, he's not, and he looked good. And I think the most embarrassing part of this game for the Steelers, isn't that last drive. Zach's a top five pick and he's capable of doing that. It's the fact that their first touchdown that the Eagles, uh, the Jess court was on the Philly special and Zach Wilson caught a touchdown pass from Brandon Barrios.


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[Assistant] What do you think about making Fitzpatrick stand up for the game? We gotta quit losing to these teams. We should, we, we, we know we're better than. Are they? I don't know if they're better than the Jets. The scoreboard said obviously they're not, but.


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[Assistant] Personnel wise, coaching wise, I've seen nothing this season, including the week one miracle win over the Bengals, which in hindsight is almost as crazy as that Bills win over this, uh, the, over the, uh, the win over the Bills last week one, last year's week one. This team sucks. Like they're, they're one of the worst teams in NFL.


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[Assistant] Well, I put that to you not as a rhetorical question, but as a hopefully illicit response.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, to follow up on Breach's point, let's assume they win three games instead of one. Either way,


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[Assistant] Now you're going to be in a situation where presumably Kenny Pickett continues to start to use your word presumably even though what Mike Tellman said. Let's say he continues to start and he's average. Now you're going to be in a position if you have a top three pick.


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[Assistant] Where you could get a quarterback in this class that is way better than any quarterback in last year's class including Kenny Pickett.


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[Assistant] Or you can go in another direction. Now it might be a good situation if you're fine with Kenny and maybe Kenny is going to be okay. We can trade down. This will be a draft where teams will want to trade up for a quarterback. So maybe you get some draft capital that way.


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[Assistant] Not unless Mike Talman is on board with it. I don't think there's a situation where that's gonna happen.


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[Assistant] Like, you think Omar Khan's gonna be able to fire, let's say he wanted to fire Mike Tom for whatever reason. No, he's not. Yeah, exactly. I mean, he could say, he'd be better off asking. Mike Tom is more likely to get him fired than he is getting him fired. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Nah, I mean look, every team has a rough patch and the Steelers, this is their rough patch and it is, it's hard to watch.


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[Assistant] Well, I think if we're gonna be honest, uh, for people who actually watched the game and took fastidious notes.


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[Assistant] The Bengals, I mean the Bengals, the Patriots were running all up the Packers business. I mean, Bailey Zappi was 10 or 15, they didn't want him to throw the ball the first time he dropped back. It was a strip sack.


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[Assistant] Right, when I watched him at Western Kentucky and at the senior bowl, I kept coming back to this guy's duck Hodges. Like, he doesn't have a good arm, he throws for a trillion yards in college, and he's one of those sort of, you know, those


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[Assistant] I don't know if it was A-rate obviously played in, but one of those A-rate quarterbacks in college, it drops back 50 times and completes 45 passes.


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[Assistant] But the running game was the reason they were in that thing and the defense. Uhm, and by the way, look, Bailey Zappi wasn't a first round pick, but he was a rookie who contributed also contributing. I wrote this down because I wanted to make sure, uh, Marcus Jones.


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[Assistant] A draft pick, a day three guy forward, the Patriots did well as a returner. Jack Jones, the rookie out of Arizona State, had the pick six against Aaron Rodgers.


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[Assistant] And then, of course, Bailey Zappi played. So, and Colestrange had started. Like, he's, he's one of their best players already along that offensive line, the first one to pick the head, everyone up in arms back in late April. So, I think the draft had a lot to do with that success today. They don't even have Taekwon Thornton out there, but I think the other issue is, uhm,


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[Assistant] You can't expect to win with Bayliss Appia or even probably Brian Hoyer, but they did as well as they could, all things considered, with Mac Jones being, uh, out. Breech, do they win this game if Mac Jones is playing?


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[Assistant] Uh, Florio mentioned this in a tweet, I think they probably wrote about it, but he said whoever the, whoever the Patriots get signed to play quarterback, if Matt can't play and if Brian Hoyer's still out with a concussion, they better have the passport because you got to be able to go overseas right quick. So that's going to be a contingency for whoever could be their next quarterback.


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[Assistant] Oh, maybe the team they're playing was the one that he wrote about. I thought it was, uh, it's, uh, the giant giants.


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[Assistant] Daniel Jones and Ty Rock Taylor, that's what it was. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, so.


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[Assistant] By the way, oh, Billy's filming himself, the Eagles fan. He just put this comment into the, into the chat. Is there a difference between Mac Jones and Bailey Zappi?


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[Assistant] I wonder if uh, Mack will play next week. Apparently he was telling teammates this week he was going to play. It's hard to play in a high equal spring. Right. You don't think next week either? No.


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[Assistant] Well, the problem is that the Lions can score points. It's unclear if the Patriots can score a lot of points.


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[Assistant] By the way, also worth noting, I mean, we talk about, or I was anyway, talking about how good the Patriots defense was, and they kept in that game, and I think that's true, but Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon still went for 183 yards on the ground. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And by the way, if Romeo Dobson dropped that freaking ball at the end zone, at the end of the fourth quarter, they were not having this conversation.


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[Assistant] I'm going to give you the same advice that Derek Hart gave Russell Whistle when he signed, signed his shirt and gave it to Russ after the game. Keep Jesus first, Princeton. Do you say that? You wrote it on this jersey.


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[Assistant] That's some words you could live by. Uhm, here's the thing that...


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[Assistant] Before we talk about the team that won, and I'm glad they won, if you were just watching this game, like on a black and white television, which used to be a thing, I'm sure you guys know what that is, and didn't know who was who, you would be convinced that the Raiders were the much better team that was two and one coming into this game, and the way the Broncos played, that they're a crap-tastic football team. Last year, the Broncos were one of the least penalized teams in the league.


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[Assistant] Unsurprisingly, after seven penalties on Sunday, they remain one of the most penalized teams. And I'll give you two words as to why that might be. Nathaniel Hackett. Those are the two words.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, as they fear it's a serious knee injury. Randy Gregory left with a knee injury as well. So those are obviously concerns. Again, Russ Wilson looks like Geno Smith prior to this season, 17-25. He had a nice touchdown pass late in the game to KJ Hamler. Oh, actually KJ didn't get in, got into the one. That was KJ's first catch of the season.


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[Assistant] Here's what I feel good about. I wasn't convinced the Broncos were going to be good before the season just because of the transition. Little did I know about the Nathaniel Hackett factor, which is, uhm, it's a real thing, my man. And Nathaniel Hackett, I'm not even joking. I don't want anyone to lose their job, but it's hard to make the case that he's making this team better.


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[Assistant] They're more likely to make the playoffs than the Broncos. I feel very safe in saying that. Yeah. Wilson, why would you have to say that?


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[Assistant] Do you think who's more likely to make the playoffs than your mind breach?


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[Assistant] Uhm, by the way, you mentioned in passing, I don't think you mentioned the actual date. Do you remember the, do you know the date, the last time that Joshua Daniels won a football game as a head coach? It's 2010. November, 2010. November, 2010.


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[Assistant] I'm going to, I'm going to say they go one and three.


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[Assistant] Just like last year with David Culley, they played, I said it last year at the time, but the Texans and the Lions played so much harder for their coaches than, uh, the Jaguars did for Urban Meyer. And that certainly panned out. Texas fired David Culley, hired Lovey Smith. I feel like they're playing hard for Lovey Smith too. And Lovey Smith has taken more chances than he used to going four on four down. Um, they're, you know, they, they made that, that,


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[Assistant] That big comeback fell short against the Chargers. Davis bills to an interception. Uh, I think on his third pass.


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[Assistant] So, there's reasons for optimism. This team isn't stacked with playmakers. I do wonder what's going to happen if they have a top five pick. Uh, do you go with Davis Mills for year three? I sort of think you do. If he continues to progress or do you draft a quarterback? Which, you know, obviously every team has to consider, uh, once you get down that stretch. But that's a ways off. That's whatever, seven months away. But I think, uhm,


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[Assistant] No, that's not, I think there's going to be a lot of, a lot of QB talk much more so than last year. Thank God. But anyway, I think, I think that you stick with Davis Mills. He's, he's been.


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[Assistant] This is gonna be controversial to media folks. It's gonna be, I think, Will Levis and Anthony Richardson are gonna be guys that are gonna get talked up. Okay, I can see that.


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[Assistant] We'll see, but Will Anderson is like Chase Young, he's like Aiden Hutchinson, he's like Kevin Thibodeau, he's like-


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, and Davis Mills was young, he didn't play a lot at Stanford, so I think that's fair. Yeaah, and we said, you know, Prisco and I both said this last year, Davis came out last year and said the year before he'd have been the first quarterback taken, so, and a first round pick.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know who played left tackle today. I didn't, I didn't check into that, but if they get that sorted out and you're not going to be able to replace for Sean Slater, obviously, but, and, uh, you know, but duck take piecemeal way that helps Justin Herbert, uh, from what I saw was moving around pretty well. He didn't look to be favoring the ribs as much as he was last week.


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[Assistant] Jamari Salyer. Jamari Salyer, the rookie out of Georgia. Great. That's fantastic.


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[Assistant] Gerald Everett had 61 yards at the tight end position and a nice touchdown.


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[Assistant] Arthur Smith is up tweeting this podcast with that victory. What's that? Arthur Smith is up tweeting this podcast with that victory.


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[Assistant] Uh, one last thing before we move on. Tyler Algier, the rookie out of BYU, big game, 10 carries, 84 yards. I was talking about in the preseason. I like that kid. Um, yeah, it reminds me of James Connor in terms of the way he runs. And so a little bit of that today once, uh, Cordero went, went down. So. Outpits is non-existent. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I actually watched this game on my third screen. That's right, I have three screens, guys. My iPad.


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[Assistant] I don't know if you want to set it up or not. Here's the thing. If you were just watching without a scoreboard, you're like, oh my God, the Giants are winning this game. 5,000 to nothing. This game was closed throughout. Uhm, the Giants came into this game with three sacks in the first half. They had five sacks adjusted fields, which should give you some indication of.


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[Assistant] Uh, why we still have no idea if Justin feels any good? Cause he spends most Sundays running for his life.


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[Assistant] Daniel Jones was 8-13. Again, these numbers of the quarterbacks look like a bunch of high school games in run-only leagues. But, Daniel Jones scored two touchdowns, and they were both the exact same play, which makes you wonder,


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[Assistant] Okay, I'm not sure if he came back in. Cause I think Tyra went to the tent and I think he left. Uhm, Daniel Jones was in for a while too.


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[Assistant] Okay, that might have been after Dana got hurt before Tyron got presumably cussed. Anyway, uhm, here's a fun fact. Kenny Galladay, one target. Zero, zero, zeroes everywhere else.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he came in and he was lining up a wide receiver when they were running a lot of the Wildcat towards the end of that game. Uhm, but yeah, I think this Bears team, it's hard to tell, uhm, if they're any good. They're Kyler Gordon, their first pick, I think his second rounder.


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[Assistant] No, no, I was going to say Kyle or Gordon, their, their rookie second round pick, I think played, had some moments where, where he played well.


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[Assistant] If the Seals played the Bears ten times, they would win five and a half of those games. Are the Giants good?


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[Assistant] And the quarterback situation is unresolved because of the injuries. That's awesome.


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[Assistant] So he threw 14 incompletions. I'm going to wager that 12 of them were knocked down to the line of scrimmage and two of them were.


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[Assistant] He was at the point late in the game where he was actually throwing like a hissy fit behind, behind the line of scrimmage every time the ball got knocked down. It's, it's tough to play like that. It's tough to run routes. Like during the week, DJ, DJ Moore was answering questions about how can he get more open? I mean,


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I think, uhm, Matt Ruhl might be fingers crossed hoping for that Wisconsin job.


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[Assistant] By the way, Victor mentioned this in the comments. I just, I didn't see it in real time, but I just looked it up. Uhm, Kyler and Cliff were going at it early in the fourth quarter. It looks like the Cardinals burned their second time out with 13 or so minutes to go.


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[Assistant] And there are a couple of breach that are, they're both like so incredibly good looking that you can't imagine them with anyone else. Like they're, they seem like, you know, not even human, but clearly they're, they're, they're not good together. That's a problem.


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[Assistant] That's a win. The Panthers, again, another team the Steelers should beat at least five and a half times out of ten.


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[Assistant] I would take the Bears over the Panthers in a Super Bowl of mediocrity.


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[Assistant] So let me check my notes here. Uh, but in the meantime, I'll mention this. Uh, before the season, I always said, if you're asking me if I'll take Derek Henry or Ryan Tannehill over Jonathan Taylor, Matt Ryan, I'm going to take Matt Ryan and Jonathan Taylor. No longer. I look like an idiot for saying that because Matt Ryan is, is done. Jonathan Taylor has yet to get going.


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[Assistant] Derek Henry, as you know, he looks fantastic. And, uh, one thing I wanted to mention, Breach, I don't know if you saw this, but... Where is it? Where is it? Where is it?


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, so it's, uh, 24-17, uh, with two, just over two minutes to go in the game. And, um, Frank Reich decides to kick a field goal on 4th and 21.


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[Assistant] From like the plus 40, wherever it was from. It was a 50 something year field goal. But they, they missed it.


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[Assistant] Badly. Badly. And I'm like, I get it on some level, cause let's say you make it and then you get the answer.


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[Assistant] So if you get it before the two minute, you might have a chance, but yeah, you get to either way. I was actually thinking it might make more sense just to punt the ball, like pin them deep. I don't know what the analytics say, but kicking the field goal.


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[Assistant] I was like, this seems like a dumb idea. Is Frank right here?


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[Assistant] Are, are Frank Reich and or Chris Ballard, uh, see, is that seat getting warm for either of those two?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, maybe it's karma. They went from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck. Maybe it's time that they have a bunch of end of the career veteran quarterbacks who've been good, but I'm not.


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[Assistant] I was gonna say that this isn't, I wouldn't put this on Andrew Luck anymore than, you know, you put it on...


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[Assistant] That's like a dog that keeps biting his owner and then you get mad at the owner for taking the dog to the pound because he doesn't want him anymore. Well, he kept biting me. What was I supposed to do?


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[Assistant] Andrew Luck, one of the cults, Poss Moose says in the comments, never in history has a top quarterback built like that. He just didn't like football.


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[Assistant] I mean, maybe, but I also would argue that, you know, let's let you get hit by a truck 17 times a year for eight years and maybe you might feel differently.


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[Assistant] I don't think 4th and 21 probably ever wins out in that conversation unless it's the last play of the game.


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[Assistant] That guy is headed to the slammer. And it will not be a good night.


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[Assistant] Yes, he will. And I think their defense, which they had a terrible plan last week.


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[Assistant] He didn't, he wasn't on him at all. And I think this week they'll do a better job of limiting a passing attack that isn't very good. Uh, I think the pass rush will be better and I think Rogers will be better. You know, Christian wants to drop that ball.


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[Assistant] They didn't score points. Now he's turned the ball over. I like the Texans. This number's bloated to me.


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[Assistant] Uh, Texans were tough last week. I liked them last week. They should have won that game. You know, the late fumble really killed them, uh, and set up the Colts to get back in the game. I think they'll hang around. Uh, they're pretty good on defense and they got after Matt Ryan, he forced four fumbles last week. Uh, so I'll take the Texans and the points as one of my picks.


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[Assistant] I just think this is a tough spot for the Colts. You go on the road, you play the Texans, you go home, now you gotta go on the road and play a team that's sitting at home playing its first home opener.


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[Assistant] The Colts offensive line has problems by the way. There's some issues on that line. The left tackle, the right guard, and the right tackle didn't play very well. There's some issues on that line.


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[Assistant] Uh, they were kind of lifeless at times and Flacco didn't look very good.


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[Assistant] Uh, I would lean to the Browns don't love it, but I would lean to the Browns. I do think being back home will help them, uh, a great deal in this one and, and they're the better team. They have more talent and, and Stefanski is a good coach. Uh, that showed out last week. So I'll take the Browns. Don't love it though.


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[Assistant] I love the Rams in this game. It's one of my best bats. I think this is a bad spot for Falcons. Long trip, you know, had a tough loss and you're playing a team that's rested with a bunch of veteran players.


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[Assistant] This is a tough game for me. Uhm, I wanna take the Giants.


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[Assistant] And neither did the Giants for a half. So it's hard to really put a gauge on this. But I'm, I'm leaning to the Giants because I think Saquon Barkley will run the ball, uh, and they'll make enough plays in the game. Um, it's going to be ugly. I'd probably lead to the under as well, but I'll take the Giants minus the points. Don't love it.


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[Assistant] Carson Wentz did some good things last week and they have some weapons on that team. It's too bad they don't have Robinson because I know they would have used him a ton.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would agree with you. I think it's going to be a high scoring game. And here's the thing about, you know, the Vikings are facing.


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[Assistant] The Eagles defense was not good last week. They tackled terribly, by the way. They were terrible tacklers that day. I'm going to take the Eagles though in this game, but I do agree that I think it's going to go over the total.


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[Assistant] This is too many. I would lean to the Seahawks. I don't, I mean, it's way too many. Uhm, after I watched them, it's hard to gauge what you saw from the 49ers last week because of that weather. But Lance made a couple good throws. He made a couple really bad ones too. So it's hard to evaluate them. I'd take the nine just because I think it's too many.


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[Assistant] I'm going to take the hook. I think that's too many. You know, Cooper Rush isn't terrible. They're not going to be much worse on that side of the ball. And the Bengals offensive line had major issues last week. Parsons might get after him. So I'm going to take the Cowboys plus the points.


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[Assistant] And I know the last two years, the Titans have won. That isn't happening here. This Bills team is different because they're eight deep on the defensive line and they will get after the quarterback and they will stop the run. Uh, and Josh Allen will do his thing as well. I'm taking Buffalo blowout.


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[Assistant] It's like, oh, I didn't know that. Maybe a nice little drop shipping business, Amazon drop shipping business.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Big Six Podcast, CBS Sports, Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Will Brinton. I'm your host. It is Sunday, September 25th. As you go live on YouTube, youtube.com slash pick six.


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[Assistant] From the early look at the earliest look at available on the internet. I believe this is the earliest look out of any podcast. The only podcast that looks ahead to the following week, halfway through the Sunday night football game. John breach. What's up, buddy?


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[Assistant] You know the nice orange glow to your entire aura today.


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[Assistant] At their place in high point, rather than coming back for an NC state home game, as you can tell my voice.


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[Assistant] Voila, I'm perfectly fine as where as it usually would not be. Anyway, let's get into something in football games. And we start Thursday night football. There are only two, three in our teams in the NFL, my Philadelphia Eagles and the team. I hate more than anyone in the NFL right now. The Miami dolphins and the Miami dolphins are traveling to a place that you once called home Cincinnati to play the Bengals.


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[Assistant] The Dolphins are minus two and a half, I see. What have been Cincinnati's favorite? Okay, I read that wrong on the sheet. I was like, what? Since he's actually minus three and it is getting juiced up. Minus three, minus one fifteen with a total of forty eight here. Breach.


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[Assistant] Uh, is now the time to take the bingles, or do you wait?


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[Assistant] Uh, do you remember Boston League of the Show? I love Boston League of the Show. I love Boston League of the Show. I love Boston League of the Show. I love Boston League of the Show. I love Boston League of the Show. I love Boston League of the Show.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think the big, you take the big ones now.


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[Assistant] You probably mentioned this, and so I apologize for repeating it, but uhm, did you mention the number of plays that the Bills ran? Uh, it was a bunch. 90!


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[Assistant] To win a game when you run 39 plays to an opponent's 90 plays is very surprising.


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[Assistant] Also surprised they did that too. Yes, exactly. So I think the Bengals here is absolutely a play. Now, if you like Cincinnati, um, the Joe Burrow looked a lot better on Sunday against, granted the Jets are not very good, but Burrow


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[Assistant] You could tell that he's sort of starting to shake off the rust of the appendectomy, the burst appendix or whatever it is. So, um, yeah, I think that's a pretty good spot. I would guess. So that total comes down because we see Cincinnati sort of


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[Assistant] We, we, I mean, they didn't, they don't put, they get a lead. They don't really put their foot on the gas. And Miami can be explosive, but it needs to be in like a trailer.


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[Assistant] And golfers are more likely to come back than Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Or the Biggles, excuse me. The Jets, excuse me.


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[Assistant] If college game day were being taking place in Clemson, South Carolina, and it featured Clemson and NC State going head to head on Saturday night. Hypothetically, if that were to happen, I would be concerned about the quality of my vocal cords.


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[Assistant] And my ability to make the London game, which starts at 930 AM. Unfortunately, we don't have to podcast for the London game Vikings minus two and a half.


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[Assistant] Uh, they are overseas going up against the Saints. They dodged a bullet against the Lions on Sunday, coming away with a win there, minus two and a half against New Orleans with an over under of 44. That total has dipped a half a point, um, in the, in the, uh, I guess an hour or so since they put up these lines.


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[Assistant] They just didn't, I think if you have a half decent defense, you can pretty much slow down whatever the Saints are throwing at you from an offensive standpoint. And while their defense is pretty good, I do trust the Vikings, uh, to, to matriculate the ball at a necessary pace. I think the under is probably a pretty good look here. You're talking about, I mean, look, both teams played today.


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[Assistant] On a totally whacked out time zone.


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[Assistant] You know, trying to play in a place they've never played before, very unfamiliar territory and this total we've seen, we saw the Vikings, um,


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[Assistant] Maybe the Vikings moves out a little bit depending on what injuries happen.


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[Assistant] Taysom Hill should be back for this game, I would guess. But I think the under is a good look. I think this guy sounded like 42. So I would take the under at this moment if I were betting on the game. Alright, next up.


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[Assistant] The Bills at the Ravens, a huge game for the AFC on CBS. The Ravens moved to two and one. The Bills fell to two and one.


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[Assistant] This is a potential AFC championship game to be perfectly honest. Like that wouldn't be that crazy. A total of 54 coming out of the gates hot. Let's see if that's moved actually.


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[Assistant] That is not moved. The bills are minus three at Baltimore and the total is 54. Obviously Buffalo just lost in Miami and Baltimore, just one in New England for the first time ever in franchise history. I believe. Uh, what say you on this game breach?


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[Assistant] I believe I saw where Josh Allen, you got a little testy with reporters was asked about his x-ray. I had x-rays done, I believe. What was the exact situation? Yeah. Just went into the x-ray room after the game.


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[Assistant] So if you're, if you're asking me, who do I want to take? I don't, I think Josh Allen will probably be fine. He said, I'm fine. I'm fine.


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[Assistant] Which is what, you know, you yell to like some, you know, we do not fine. You yell, I'm fine, I'm fine.


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[Assistant] I would, I don't think the total will go climbing up until we know about Josh Allen, but I would take the three points now while I can get it before it moves. All right, let's take a break. Can we come back more Sunday action for week four as we look ahead at the early lines next.


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[Assistant] The Jacksonville Jag. Oh my God. I didn't realize this game is next week. It's the Princeton Bowl. My Eagles.


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[Assistant] Against my, my first place undefeated Eagles against my first place Jacksonville Jaguars.


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[Assistant] They're going head to head in Philadelphia. Obviously, you know, I have a lot of love for Philadelphia having spent so much time there in my life. I've been to Philadelphia.


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[Assistant] Eagles are minus seven, the overrunners 47 and a half. Bree, what do you think here?


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, I think Jacksonville is kind of good. It is totally possible that the Eagles are the best team in the NFC.


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[Assistant] They really might just be that balanced, you know, her just taking that step forward. I think utterly like they went on the road in a divisional matchup and absolutely like just flexed on Washington in Carson Wentz revenge game too.


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[Assistant] So yeah, I, I don't want to go against Eagles. I will probably be thinking about the Eagles and survivor next week. Um, but the Jaguars plus seven, man.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's, it feels like too many points, although.


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[Assistant] Yes, a full touchdown and you got, you got a back door. Remember we saw the lions too. And in week one storm through the back door against the Eagles, they're, they have a good defense, but not, they're not incapable of giving up doors wide open. Your plan was wide open. Yeah. Give me the, give me the freaking Jaguars.


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[Assistant] Two teams that are, how do you say, quite thrilled to come out of week three with a win, uh, different ways, different heart attack, different, uh, different possible heart attacks coming for each of them.


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[Assistant] Colts minus three and a half of the total 43 and a half in this game breach.


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[Assistant] Uh, the other thing I thought too about Tennessee's, uh, performance was it could have been, it felt like Derek Henry, didn't he get tackled at the one?


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[Assistant] And then they threw up or Tana Hill snitch and he'll snuck in like Henry could have, you know.


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[Assistant] They were quite long. Uhm, but the point being is that it feels like Henry.


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[Assistant] Is, could pop for another big game coming up this week. And that wouldn't be surprising, especially against a division rival. Vrabel knows how important this game is. Jackson, what we just talked about is in Philadelphia. So you have the opportunity to maybe make up some ground if the Jaguars lose. And, and I think we see this is just Derek Henry gets fed.


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[Assistant] Against Indianapolis, particularly when a lot of the talking heads will be leading up to it saying who is the best running back in football and a lot of people will choose Jonathan Taylor. Uhm, I think this feels like a big, uh, big pop off spot for Derek Henry. So I'll take the three and a half as well. Uhm, don't really have a great opinion on the total, but I don't think there's gonna be a bunch of points scored in this game.


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[Assistant] We'll probably lean under. I would get it close. I would get it comes down a little bit, but there shouldn't be weather involved. It won't be weather involved because it's in Indianapolis. All right. The Jets at the Steelers.


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[Assistant] The game we have to talk about because it's on CBS and because Ryan Wilson is all about


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[Assistant] Except yeaah, yeaah, yeaah, we have to, we are required, he had it.


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[Assistant] He had it, uh, he had it put into his contract. Total Wilson move. Such a Wilson move.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Pittsburgh played on Thursday. Of course the Jets lost the Bengals.


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[Assistant] On Sunday, the total here, 41 and a half gross Steelers minus three and a half. That line has not moved a whole lot at Pittsburgh is one of those where if


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[Assistant] If you're doing survivor, you're, you're thinking long and hard about the Steelers, but man laying three and a half to the Jets is.


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[Assistant] Kind of stinky, like I, I think I would probably take Pittsburgh. This feels like it should be more, but can you trust this offense to do anything? Is it possible to get?


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[Assistant] You know, 14 of them came in the final 90 seconds, right? I mean, they really shouldn't have like, can Pittsburgh get to 21 points? That's the question.


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[Assistant] Right. If Pittsburgh can get to 21 points and they can win and cover, I mean, this is not one I'm interested in really. 20 to 13, that's it. I'm taking the Steelers.


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[Assistant] I feel like I'm gonna have to argue, like argue with people, like if this is the Survivor game and then I'm...


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[Assistant] Gonna feel like an idiot. And yeah, I would probably lean towards the under in this one. And by the way, we're getting into her hashtag hurricane season, um, which means that there's gonna be weather coming.


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[Assistant] For instance, in Clemson, South Carolina, it's Hurricane Ian is supposed to be rolling through on, um, uh, on, on Saturday. I know nobody cares, but I care.


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[Assistant] Pittsburgh, uh, 60, yeah, still kind of just mild in Pittsburgh, but it could be rainy sloppy under.


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[Assistant] Seems like the play here, but I don't really feel like 41 and a half is just, you know, you get one flag, one slip up in the D the defensive backfield and.


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[Assistant] Flacco bomb or I don't know. I would lean towards the under. I would guess it comes down a little bit. So if you like the under, you probably want to bet it now. The Patriots at the Packers also in CBS.


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[Assistant] Uh, this line is probably not available. Oh, it is. Oh, it is a surge up to nine and a half. Mac Jones has a high angle sprain. I would if you can bet this, you should bet the Packers right now.


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[Assistant] I don't think Mac Jones is worth eight points or four points or whatever it is the line. Brian Hoerter is capable of, of, you know, of.


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[Assistant] Stealing a game, I guess. He almost did it against the Chiefs in the COVID season, but this line has already moved up a full point. The Turtle has dropped half a point. I mean,


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[Assistant] There's almost a 0% chance Mack Jones is playing this game. The Patriots offense hasn't looked good. Green Bay's defense is awesome. And you know, this is a, uh, sort of a flex spot for Aaron Rodgers, it feels like.


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[Assistant] This moves a full point off Mac Jones, and that's probably whatever he thinks he's worth, but it's, I think this keeps moving up. So I would, uh, I would take, uh,


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[Assistant] Does Monday Night Football involve the 49ers or the... Why am I missing Monday? Where's Monday Night Football?


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[Assistant] Anyway, the, um, Chiefs of the Buccaneers, Chiefs are minus two and a half on the road in Tampa with a total of 47, uh, September Patrick Mahomes. Did he get, he got out of, uh, September with no interceptions, right?


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[Assistant] Oh, he did throw one, he finally threw one. On the last offensive play of the game for the Chiefs. Oh, you were saving that for the recap pod, weren't you? Maybe.


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[Assistant] Uh, this line has not moved at all. Total hadn't really jumped around much either. Ah, man, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I don't think the bucks are particularly great, but I think they're being pretty undervalued here catching two and a half at home. Mike Evans will be back from suspension. True. We don't know Chris Goblin's status yet.


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[Assistant] I felt, I felt like I don't know the chiefs have the defensive prowess to mess with Tom Brady the way that the Packers did on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think Tampa Bay wins this one outright. Sunday night for Tom Brady, Sunday night football against Patrick Mahomes. Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes are awesome. Nobody would be wrong, but this defense for Tampa Bay is good.


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[Assistant] I think the under might be a look here too as well. Kansas City has not been.


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[Assistant] Anyway, uhm, I would look towards the under initially and, uh, and certainly.


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[Assistant] By the way, it was great. The rundown was sent out today. RJ's picks all there. My picks all there. Who's picks weren't there?


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[Assistant] What I don't figure out is, what I can't figure out is, if Devo's gone, who the-


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[Assistant] On a sneaky suspicion that somebody's gonna play the, I'm not gonna get this Christmas present game and hope he gets the Christmas present.


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[Assistant] I think they're going to win this game outright. Uhm, I think Baltimore's defense has major problems. And I know New England hasn't done much on offense.


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[Assistant] Because Baltimore defense can't rush the passer. They're bad in the secondary. They give up a ton of big plays.


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[Assistant] I just think this is too many. The Eagles will probably win the game, but it's going to be tight. I'll take the commanders plus the points.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, but when the Raiders lose at home, I mean, that's much more of a pain in the ass.


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[Assistant] I mean, we're not just talking about Tanner Hill. Everybody wants to point to him. The receivers are an issue right now. Does Derrick Henry look like Derrick Henry? He hasn't come close to looking like that. And on the other side of the ball, they don't rush the pass or that. Well, the secondary got carved to shreds last week. So I think


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[Assistant] The problem isn't the number of passes, it's when they pass. They run in the ball, they go away from the run, start passing, they go back to the run. I don't understand what they were doing, so.


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[Assistant] Uh, they get their first win. They've started slowly the last two weeks and, and the offensive line has not been that good, particularly the tackles. They've been bad. Both of them.


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[Assistant] That's ridiculous. Stop asking that. Whoever asked that question should be taken out of the business. It's a terrible question.


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[Assistant] Yeah, as one Brady Quinn said, uhm, I think this is a get right game for the Bengals. It's desperation. They're better teams. They'll win this game and I think they'll cover it as well.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of great golf in Jacksonville. That's one thing they do have. Yeah, that they do.


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[Assistant] Good on defense. My concern with them is can they keep Bosa and Khalil Mack off Trevor Lawrence? That's the concern.


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[Assistant] I think there's 3 in 15 or something on the west coast. There have been terrible on the west coast.


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[Assistant] They went to Jacksonville, got blown out by the Saints, they got blown out in the opener this year.


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[Assistant] Yeah. If you had to pick one, it's how I meant to phrase it. I know you guys.


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[Assistant] I think like this is what happens to me. I don't know if it's like I get older or whatever.


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[Assistant] But the, I feel like the longer we're in this.


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[Assistant] The more willing I am to wait until closer to the start of football season to get excited.


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[Assistant] Is that, is that, is that like a, is that a thing with you too? Or is that just, maybe I'm just.


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[Assistant] It used to be like, ooh, we're a month out from football. Yes. And now I'm like, look, I ain't getting excited until we get to like a week before. And now I'm like, all right, let's go.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I think the other thing too is like, you know, when I, when I sit down with a couple buddies to watch this NC State ECU game on Saturday, which is kind of a petrifying game, but whatever.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think it'll sort of settle in then too, cause it's like, it's Labor Day weekend. You're like, Oh my God. NFL, the NFL season is kicking off quite soon.


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[Assistant] I also think that now more than I used to be when I was younger, like when I was younger, I sort of formulated.


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[Assistant] I feel like I kind of formulate my opinions on what I think these teams, most teams are going to be earlier in the off season.


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[Assistant] And I tend to be less, I tend to stray from that formulation a little bit less. I don't know. I don't know why I'm being esoteric about.


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[Assistant] I did have Cardinals Chargers at one point, I think. I had Chargers Cowboys the first year I did this.


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[Assistant] Maybe that's what it is, I was just saying. Uhm, are you going to, uhm...


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[Assistant] We were talking about this, uh, with Wilson, who is the team that you, there's a team that you're trying to jump on.


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[Assistant] By the way, show a little respect, we went on time today for some...


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[Assistant] There's a team that we keep, we think you're trying to get all over for a Super Bowl pick. Me? Yeah, we can't decide if you're going to commit or not.


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[Assistant] I know my AFC team, I'm waffling between two NFC teams.


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[Assistant] Okay, give me your, give me your list, give me your finalist list for NFC teams. And look, it should be noted that the reason I want this information is because last year I was going to go all in on the Rams.


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[Assistant] And Breach was like, I'm going to pick the Rams and the Trojans. And all the LA Super Bowl, I was like, that's what I was going to do. And so I went to the 49ers, Breach then bailed on the Rams and no, neither of us had the Rams.


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[Assistant] Okay. So I'm between the 49ers and the Eagles and I know my AFC team.


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[Assistant] That's good to know that I need to reply to Jordan with my serial vote. What are we supposed to, um.


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[Assistant] Pick two over under windows and two Super Bowl team bets along with an explanation for each. So I think it's saying like, like, it's not like I'll pick the.


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[Assistant] So somebody could send out a I guess that would be next week when the last for our picks maybe.


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[Assistant] Hey, by the way, are you a Steely Dan fan? What? Do you like Steely Dan the band?


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[Assistant] Well, I've got a Steely Dan hat on, courtesy of Double Wonderful on Instagram. I mean, I bought it from them, but it's a galcho hat. I'm like, I got a bunch of Steely Dan gear.


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[Assistant] Maybe you need a force five, but if, if there are, if you're like.


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[Assistant] Barely a grown adult, so there you go. I was like, I guess I write him down in this computer thing in front of me.


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[Assistant] Dallas Cowboys, we'll start there. Big D, the favorite to win the-


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[Assistant] NFC East, although erotically the favorite in my opinion, and I wouldn't be shocked given the Tyrant Smith is going to be out until I believe it. They said they said December now, right?


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[Assistant] Um, Tyron Smith out until out through November basically is the expectation.


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[Assistant] I mean, Tyrant Smith is a, is a, anyway, point being is that the Cowboys are, the Cowboys are the favorite. I think the Eagles should be the favorite. Maybe they close as a favorite. We'll see. The Cowboys over under is 10 and a half. The over is plus one 30 at Caesars. The under minus one 55 John breach your thoughts on this total.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, the juice here is not, I mean, you don't want to lay minus 155 on the under. Um, just because, I mean, like, that's just a lot of juice for an under. But if you look at just sort of the direction, the Cowboys


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[Assistant] Have gone this off season. It's kind of hard to get enthused about taking the over. They open up against Tampa.


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[Assistant] Who's got offensive line issues of their own, but, you know, has, I think, a major advantage in terms of, you know, overcoming issues because of Tom Brady, no offense to Dak Prescott. I mean, Tom Brady's the goat.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, look, I mean, Jalen Tolbert, Dalton Shultz, and C.D. Lamb is not that bad.


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[Assistant] I mean, I was just saying, I mean, the Cowboys have enough talent at receiver where they'll be okay, but.


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[Assistant] Box pingles at home at giants, Washington at home.


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[Assistant] And then it's like, at Rams, at Eagles, Lions, Bears at home. So I'm thinking they split with the Bucks and Sensi. I guess I'll give them a win in New York.


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[Assistant] I mean, God, that could easily be three and one heading and then let's say three and three, five and three.


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[Assistant] They're by, then they're at Green Bay at Minnesota. That feels like two L's, but I mean, they could split.


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[Assistant] Giants, Colts, Texans at home in a row. One of those, the Giants is on Thanksgiving. So I think I've got them at.


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[Assistant] I'm going to give them all three. I'll say two in one. So obviously six and five and then at Jacksonville, Philly at home, at Tennessee, at Washington to close out.


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[Assistant] I think I would take the under, but I don't think I would make it a best bet because that's a lot of juice.


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[Assistant] Like you said, I think the Cowboys are somewhere between a 9, 10, 11, 11 team.


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[Assistant] If, if, if everything breaks right, their schedule is easy enough where if things break right, they can win 11 games.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Washington and New York could be horrible. I mean, Joe Shane came out and said that they're just the hand were dealt. They're like, what are you gonna do? I mean, like, it sounds like the giants are aware they could stink. So I'm not.


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[Assistant] Entirely enthused about taking this under at minus 155. But if I had to bet, if I do make a pick on this, I would take, in fact, take the under.


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[Assistant] Like if they split with the Eagles, they probably get out of here with a minimum of four wins in the division. Forward two, if you split with the Eagles, you'd probably go forward two worst case in the division.


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[Assistant] I mean, if they go four and two against the division, they also have games at home against the Lions, Bears and Texans. So that feels like they could get to seven really quickly.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm just saying they could get to 11 and it wouldn't be shocking.


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[Assistant] It's a little too close for me where I wouldn't want to take that minus 155 because if they come out to a hot start, like if they beat the bingles in the box at home, you're feeling you're terrified.


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[Assistant] If the underwear was minus 120, I would be all over it. The Philadelphia Eagles over under nine and a half.


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[Assistant] And this is correlated to the Cowboys over under as well. Like it's.


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[Assistant] You see the Cowboys juice on the under 10 and a half has been building instead of it moving the Eagles juice on the over nine and a half has been building over nine and a half minus one 40 under nine and a half plus one 18.


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[Assistant] This will be a best bet of mine. I told you I like the Eagles as a possible Super Bowl contender. Uhm, when I...


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[Assistant] Uh, when I, like 5 minutes ago, or 10 minutes ago, whatever it was. Uh, so over 9 and a half for the Eagles is a, is an easy bet, uh, for me, Breach. I mean, I, I, look, there are a lot of people out there who don't believe in Jalen Hurts. That's okay.


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[Assistant] Well, that's fine. If you, if you don't believe in Jalen Hurts, that's okay. But the reality is if he takes, to me, it's unfair how Jalen Hurts is being treated.


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[Assistant] Relative to other young quarterbacks. It's like, Oh, well, Jalen hurts. Can't take a leap. It's like, why not? Why can't Jalen hurts be the young second year quarterback who takes a big leap?


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[Assistant] I mean, it's just, it's assumed, like it's assumed that Jalen Hurts is, it's like, well, he's hit his ceiling because we've seen him so well. He's 24 years old.


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[Assistant] They'll turn 25 on August 7th. This is a young quarterback who.


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[Assistant] With AJ Brown added and Devontae Smith in the second season. Dallas Goddard, full time role.


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[Assistant] If you extrapolate his stats without, after Zach urch got traded, he's going to be huge this year. Um, and then that defense looks like maybe one of the best defenses they've had since 2017.


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[Assistant] Again, they get to play Jacksonville. Houston. Houston's on the road. That's fine. Indy's on the road.


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[Assistant] They draw Green Bay at home, which is massive. At the Bears is a, is a stealable game. They're at the Lions to start the season. I think you look at their schedule.


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[Assistant] At Lions, I think they'll win that game, but the Lions could certainly upset them. Vikings at home in Monday night football at Washington, Jacksonville at home at Arizona at Dallas.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's outrageous to suggest that they start worst case four in two.


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[Assistant] If they lose, if they lose at Detroit in week one, I'm not changing my mind about this over.


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[Assistant] Now at that point, maybe, and we've seen Vegas offering alternate over win totals during the season, or like redone win totals during the season. I bet the 49ers last year had cashed that. If they offer an early Eagles, like after week one, after Lions lost, they offer like an eight and a half, I would take it.


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[Assistant] Eagles my over nine and a half is one of my best bets for sure. You can go like that man. I don't need to wait on it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're breaching breaking up a little bit. Yes, there is a stretch where they have the Colts Packers and Titans, um, and over the Thanksgiving stretch. And then they're at Giants at Bears at Cowboys for a three game stretch. But like,


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[Assistant] If you're going to be on the road for three straight road games at Giants at Bears is a pretty good start because you're not going very far at all and you're playing teams that you don't think are going to be that great. Yes.


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[Assistant] The Washington. I'm gonna start calling them the artists formerly known as WFT.


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[Assistant] Uh, they're over under seven and a half at Caesars slash William Hill. The over minus one 25, the under plus one Oh five. Um, I foolishly took the over on this team's wind total last year.


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[Assistant] I don't know why that was what I was in. I don't know why I was all in on the Washington football team. They weren't very good.


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[Assistant] I guess you could be a little bit more bullish on them this year maybe because they added Carson Wentz. I do think.


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[Assistant] Carson Wentz is an upgrade over Taylor Heinecke, as much as we like to joke that he's not on this podcast. Uhm, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't, I don't know, I don't know what to make of this team really, to be honest. I think they're going to lose when we go into the Jaguars, I know that.


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[Assistant] I mean, what Breach is trying to say is that you look at the schedule for the, the, the Commodores and it's Jacksonville at home at Detroit and then filling it up.


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[Assistant] I mean, 3-0 is an out of the realm of possibility. Obviously that would be bad for the Philly over here, but you know.


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[Assistant] High expectations, but it's not that crazy to suggest that.


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[Assistant] Jacksonville would, I mean that Washington would start 3-0 heading to d- at Dallas where maybe the Cowboys get a little beat up in the first three weeks of the season, uh, you know.


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[Assistant] I see you. I am like, I'm just like ankle sprain and all of a sudden, uh, you know.


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[Assistant] Dallas is kinda, you know, the offensive line is a bigger problem. I'm pointing to your point, Bree, should like, I don't think three of those out of the question.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And like Dallas could be all banged up in week four. They got Tennessee at home. Then they're at Chicago. It's.


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[Assistant] You know, they get their Houston at Houston, they get Atlanta at home at, you know, they play the Giants twice. Obviously the Browns late in the season, which is unfortunate because the Sean should be back.


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[Assistant] You can, there's it's not an easy path, but there's definitely a path to eight wins for this team.


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[Assistant] And I would not want to take the under, but that would be my lean. I would not take the over, but I would not want to.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like I would lean towards the under, but I would not want to.


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[Assistant] I don't, yeah, like if you're betting the overrunner of Washington, you're putting your hands in the, like you're putting your fate in the hands of Carson Wentz. And I just don't have any interest in doing that. Neither do I.


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[Assistant] The New York football Giants over under seven. The Giants are, you know, uhm, I don't want to question whatever Caesar is just doing, but.


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[Assistant] Let's just group, organize the win totals in some fashion. Am I missing something how these are organized?


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[Assistant] Uh, the Giants over 7 plus 105, the Giants under 7 minus 125. What's your initial lean here, Breach?


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[Assistant] So Joe show, Joe Shane, the Giants GM met with the media on, uh, to Thursday, September 1st. And there's a great picture from Ralph Vacchiano of, um, he's not with the New York. I can't remember where he went somewhere else. Anyway, um, and it's just, Joe Shane is just like this. He's like,


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[Assistant] He's looking very, if you're not watching on YouTube, he's looking very solemn. And the quote is on expectations for the 2022 season. Quote, we're just trying to get through today. The situation we're in is the situation.


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[Assistant] It's the hand we were dealt. We're going to do the best we can. You can't take the overall on a team whose GM is saying that.


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[Assistant] I was reading something from Jordan Ronan of ESPN as well, where it's like, it's basically like, kind of like, they're just there because they're uncuttable.


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[Assistant] They're uncuttable because they were either drafted in the first round last year, like Tony, or they're guaranteed $18 million this year, like, kind of galley. So like the only reason they're on the roster is because they're just uncuttable.


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[Assistant] They open at Tennessee, Carolina at home, Dallas at home, Chicago at home.


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[Assistant] And then there at Green Bay Baltimore at home at Jacksonville at Seattle.


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[Assistant] Like that little stretch right there of where they have Carolina and Chicago at home.


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[Assistant] At Jacksonville at Seattle, if they don't win those four games, this is a stone cold under lock because most of the division games, uh, one against Dallas, two against Washington, two against Philly come after the buy. They do get Houston and Detroit at home.


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[Assistant] Like there's definitely a path where this team goes over seven wins, but I ain't taking it. And there's also a path where they go way under. Yes, there's a path where they go way under to finish with a, um, a top overall pick. And I don't think that this regime would be necessarily upset with that. Because if you finish with the first overall pick, you go to, you go to the owners, owners in New York, you say, look,


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[Assistant] You know, we told you this is a big mess. We had to clean it up.


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[Assistant] Daniel Jones isn't the guy. We now have a plethora of options at the top of the draft to pick from.


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[Assistant] Uh, the reader packers over 11 is minus 105. They're under 11 is minus 115. It feels to me breach like the Packers win. Total is really anything about the Packers is like largely pretty. It's like largely built on Devante Adams departing.


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[Assistant] There's two, so I would, I guess I would leave elevens to, I wish it was ten and a half. Ten and a half, I would love the over.


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[Assistant] But 11 is a lot of games. They've won 13 games in each of the first three seasons, I believe, right?