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[Assistant] Yeah, that feels about right. It is. The Titans are the unpredictable team. The Texans are the dark horse. And then the Colts are, do they have a quarterback situation to survive the season? You hit the nail on the head and then the Jags are the favorite because they're the team that was just in playoffs last year. Pretty good description of the AFC South, huh?


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[Assistant] Undefeated. They'd never lose. Correct answer.


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[Assistant] I would say you cannot. When I lived in the ba- So Brock Birdie lives with a roommate, that's what he revealed, uh, on the Today Show last week, or this past week.


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[Assistant] Uh, when I lived in the Bay Area, I lived with three roommates. Uh, that is the kind of crap you deal with. Rent is so insanely high. Shout out to Jake, Chris and Karen, uh, who actually just got married, so congratulations. Uh, but yeah, you live, that's what you have to do. And then you feel like,


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[Assistant] What are you supposed to do except move to someplace cheaper, but if you're an NFL player, you can't do that. Brock Purdy can't move to Phoenix and then shuttle to work every day on an airplane. So you gotta do it. You gotta do it.


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[Assistant] Injuries, who's in, who's out, and who's playing more so than home or away, uh, you know.


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[Assistant] The last 10 games are on national TV or prime time. It's really.


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[Assistant] And I saw, just jumping, I saw somebody in the comments talking about in a playoffs it matters. And listen, I'm going to give you from.


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[Assistant] Both sides. Cause as, as a player, I know we lost every dog on game no matter what we played in college, right? Didn't matter. Uhm, and as a Saints fan growing up,


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[Assistant] We talk about the Dome Patrol, like, oh man, the Saints, it's hard to play in the Superdome. Saints lost.


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[Assistant] All of their playoff games with the home patrol at home. So was it really the home field or was the fact that the team had, you know, Deion Sanders or Randall Cunningham or, uh, the Anthony Carter and Minnesota Vikings beat the breaks off the Saints 44-10 in their first playoff game in 87. As an adult, you realize, you know what?


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[Assistant] That really doesn't matter, you know what I'm saying? But it does help you in terms of...


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[Assistant] Rest and injury. So maybe that's a way that people look at it as opposed to the actual stadium beating you that it doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] Or was it the fact that they were playing a rookie, uh, Andy Dalton in the offensive line or in Buffalo? Was it, was it, you know, I want to be a rich stadium.


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[Assistant] One take the over because the Bears can score. They just can't stop anybody. And so we know Washington can score and the scouting point here is Washington has no problem scoring.


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[Assistant] Just opposed to Kansas City having issue scoring. Now, we know Kansas City has a better quarterback. We know Washington, pound for pound has better receivers on a perimeter. KC has a better tight end.


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[Assistant] I can, I say it's a push with running back situation in KC and Washington.


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[Assistant] But the difference is Eric Bieneme. How much of a difference has Eric Bieneme made for Sam Howell? And the biggest key for me is the fact that he's showing faith in Sam Howell.


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[Assistant] You know, yeah, he had what nine sacks the last game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, foreign exceptions. There was not a conservative game plan going into the Philadelphia game. They actually needed Sam Howell.


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[Assistant] To almost, you know, pull through and win this game. So I think the difference here is one, the coordinators, and you have to give that edge to both.


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[Assistant] Uh, Washington on both sides of the ball because they actually have a plan defensively. Um, and he also have a plan offensively. You can't say that right now about the Bears. We know about their defense coordinator, uh, suddenly retire or leaving a team and you know, we know they can't stop anybody. They trade away or they cut Trevis Gibson who's out there making plays for the Titans and they need a pass rush.


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[Assistant] And now they don't have, so there's a lot defensively going on, but I do like the over because they do have the explosive element at quarterback.


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[Assistant] And I think they finally got it right in terms of how they're gonna run their offense. But to me, Washington should win this game, but I like the over better than anything.


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[Assistant] The field, I hate the field over there and I'd rather them play at downtown Abbey or the street the Beatles walk across. Like don't play on those. All you see is slipping and sliding and the field look, the grass looks like it's like 17 inches high. It's terrible. Um, so that's going to make this a sloppy game.


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[Assistant] And for the Jags, yeaah, they've been over there, uh, but I feel, and the Jags have fall, fallen victim probably a little bit to their, you know, reading their own-


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[Assistant] Now let's look at this from a field perspective. Just when you got used to the field you were playing on, hey, okay, this week we're going to do three fourths of an inch cleat spikes. Now you go to another field, you're like, all right, well, which spikes do I use? It's crazy. So I just feel like the Jags.


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[Assistant] You know, one have been pressing a lot in terms of reading their own press clippings


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[Assistant] On paper they're supposed to average 30 points a game, but because they think that, they haven't done that yet.


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[Assistant] And I think if they just played their game, let the game come to them, they'll find those chunk plays that we saw the back half of the season. So because this game is in London, a new field, and I would stay away from this one and just watch for watching perspective as opposed to putting any money on it.


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[Assistant] Allow him to be Bryce Young. That's why he drafted him. And his play is based off how he plays off script. But when you're trying to force a square peg in a round hole, it's not going to work. And just going quickly back to the Atlanta game, I asked something on that in terms of how the coach, coordinator, play caller thing dynamic doesn't work.


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[Assistant] And you see a little bit of that with Carolina. If you're going to be a head coach and was a former coordinator, hire someone to call please.


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[Assistant] Uh, Frank Wright. You see him playing like Joshua Cowell. You see him playing like, you know, all these guys that have had their hands in the quarterback position. Just play your game and it'll open up for you.


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[Assistant] And I had Anthony Richardson, my QB one coming into the draft, but before he even had a full season at Florida, but I digress on that.


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[Assistant] I need to hear note there. Shane Steichen, can you see out the way? Imagine if he kicks the field goal to go to when they're down 23.


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[Assistant] And when you think about the Colts in Texas, they look like the two best teams in the division right now. Uhm, and they're banged up in the secondary. We saw Flowers, I believe, got hurt yesterday. That's huge. He's a great athlete. So they're thin in the secondary, but will the Titans be able to take advantage with


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[Assistant] Tannehill. So it's a, it's a very tough game. I probably will stay away from it.


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[Assistant] So you see how, and this is my thought on the giants, cause you see how that's working out.


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[Assistant] Mike Tomlin versus Lamar Jackson is interesting and the Steelers have been one team that has kind of made it tougher Lamar Jackson to have success like he has had against the rest of the division. The Ravens also have a history of playing with their food and, and teams that they should, on paper they should cream Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] Trabisky, Ravens defense should be Ravens 44-0.


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[Assistant] But this game gonna come down to the wire. So I would stay away from it because of how the Steelers tend to game plan for Lamar Jackson with it defensively. So this game could be a lot closer than what people think.


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[Assistant] Not for Dennis Allen though, that's par for the court. I told, I told y'all last week, like, that game was going to depend on who's starting that game. And we saw with an injured.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but it's all about which defense you trust in this game. Like, this could be the 9-6 game.


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[Assistant] Bad beat at the end, right, the drop by ertz, like bro.


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[Assistant] Joe Mixon is standing right there in your face, Zach Taylor. Like what are you even doing dropping him back, throwing the ball as much as you are? Your offensive line can't handle pass rush. Maybe they could run block.


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[Assistant] Like it's fascinating how a lot of times these coaches mess this thing up. It's not that complicated.


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[Assistant] And so, the best way to calm this pressure that they're gonna see from the Cardinals front is to run right at them.


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[Assistant] And allow Borough to operate off play action, give him a little bit, a half a second more time back there in the pocket, because you know he can't throw, he can't really step into these throws with the tweak cap or whatnot. And you still drop back. Yeah, you put him in the shotgun. That's not going, that may help, but you still can't help that he can't step into the throws.


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[Assistant] Right, cause he can't step into it and he can't get the velocity on it and he didn't have the strongest of arms to begin with. So again, I would stay away from this game because I don't trust that they're going to lean into Joe Mixon like they should and the Cardinals


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[Assistant] They look like they, it was the Mike Tyson approach when they got to San Francisco right out of the gate until the second half. There was a, oh wow, this is big bad San Francisco. We forgot how to cover. We just gonna leave everybody open. We're not gonna tackle Christian McCaffrey. And so it's like, are they gonna come in?


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[Assistant] Now feeling they could beat Cincinnati, are they going to come in with that same, we're just happy to be here approach against the Bengals that they did against San Francisco.


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[Assistant] I didn't like how Mass Staffer looked after he got hit.


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[Assistant] That's not good news for me versus this Eagles front. Uhm, that's an issue because...


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[Assistant] He looked heavily favoring it down the stretch, kudos to him. Uhm, so I worry about that, that dynamic in this game. Four and a half, I like a lot more.


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[Assistant] Then six. So I'm going to lay these points with Philadelphia because they are the better team, but you got to say that Sean McVay is one hell of a coach. He got this young team.


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[Assistant] Playing a, you know, a year ahead of themselves.


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[Assistant] And it shows you what happens when you believe in someone and you empower someone to be successful. Because we saw it last night with Zach Wilson and we're seeing it right now with these rookie Rams and these first year starter Rams just making plays all over the field and a lot better.


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[Assistant] Conference is better than what we thought it was going to be.


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[Assistant] Coming into the season, so this is now a four team division as opposed to a two team.


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[Assistant] Very much so leading from the front. You know, they're better than what people give them credit for. And now that you have Chris Jones back in the fold and getting his groove going like he did last night, I just think that this defense should help them cover this spread, but also keep this under.


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[Assistant] Yeah, to lay the points, but I like the under because I don't see the Vikings scoring as many points because I think they're going to get after Kirk Cousins.


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[Assistant] In all situations, cause you know, yeaah, we like to joke about...


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[Assistant] Garbage time cousins, but I don't think it's going to even get to that because we saw that defensive line.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, really fine is, is rhythm so far this season. So I like the defense here more so than anything. Um, and so I'm a, I'm a later point, but I'm gonna take the under.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like the over here. I think Browns should, I mean the Browns, the Broncos found their tail back at your little McLaughlin. It's shocking that this dude went undrafted.


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[Assistant] You know, I was at the hula board when you competed down that way and he did a great job there. But there's someone that ran for like a zillion yards at Notre Dame College, Division II program, transfers up nearby to Youngstown State.


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[Assistant] Goes for a zillion yards there as well. And all you heard throughout the whole, uh, postseason All-Star game circuit, eh, he's too small. He's just small. And now he's killing it with the Broncos and he gives Sean Payton that explosiveness that he loves in his tail backs. You go back to his time with, you know, the Cowboys and how much, I mean, in the Giants, how much he was able to, you know, really help revitalize Tiki Barber.


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[Assistant] You know, and get him in the mix, right? And then now you look at him now throughout the Saints and all that stuff like that. But yeah, they just lean into him. He helps, keeps the offense explosive. I'm with you, Will. I think this could potentially be an over game because of Broncos defense and Zach Wilson having confidence now is going to look a lot better.


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[Assistant] If I'm, if I'm Dallas, I mean, if I'm San Francisco, I'm circling two people on defense for Dallas. Obviously Michael Parsons.


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[Assistant] And obviously, uh, Leighton van der Esch, because they can take advantage of him because he doesn't have the same athleticism. He could be vulnerable in coverage or play action. But I said Michael Parsons, because I'm not going to let you rush the passer. We're going to run right at you. We're going to turn you to our defender all day long. We'll see how your cartels did.


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[Assistant] Right. You want to defend the run until you prove you can stop the run consistently, then we'll allow you to get after the quarterback. But I do like Dallas here. If we go back, look at that playoff game. If it wasn't for that, giving them nine points.


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[Assistant] They beat San Francisco, so they do match up well athletically.


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[Assistant] But it's gonna be up to can they play a clean game offensively, so.


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[Assistant] Well Vegas to me it seems like they're the new, uh, London. You look in a Vegas crowd and there's like teams from jerseys from everybody.


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[Assistant] The Packers can't be healthier up front. This could be a problem.


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[Assistant] Uh, and that's what has caused a lot of the ineffectiveness for just, uh, Jordan Love in the beginning of the game. And then he gets, he gets it going late.


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[Assistant] They just are a better team right now, I feel like, than the Raiders. I would trust this at one and a half, lay the point to the Packers. And I like the over because I feel like the Raiders, whether it's Aiden O'Connell or even Jimmy G, they can get you at least 17.


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[Assistant] I wasn't surprised by the unders, more surprised by the success from the road dogs. I think with the condensed pre-season.


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[Assistant] With coaches unwilling to risk their starters in preseason, there was just a lot of sloppy football, just not a lot of cohesion. A couple teams looked like they were in mid-season form, but for the most part, I think teams were really stuck in the mud. It took them a quarter, even a half, even late into the second half to really kind of find their footing.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, across the board, I thought like individual performances even as well, uh, were


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[Assistant] No problem. Was shocked to see Seattle's defense, uh, just really kind of fall short. I knew once the tackles were gone, it was going to be hard for the offense to really move the ball. But yeah, that was just a really good performance from all three phases from the Rams. Really impressive.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I absolutely think there's some value on the Giants. Looking at, uhm, Arizona, really the defense played well, the offense was...


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, first off, I was incredibly encouraged by Jameer Gibbs. I had high expectations going into the season. As you know, Brinson, I liked him for potentially winning offensive rookie of the year. I thought he even thought he was a sneaky selection to lead the division in rushing yards. You could get him, I think, a close to 15 to one odds to do that.


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[Assistant] Uh, on his longest rush and his longest reception because of his big playability, he's a threat to go 15 plus yards anytime he touches the ball. So that's how I'm going to do it until I see him have a solid consistent for as far as the touches go. As far as Detroit's offense is concerned.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. I think everything went wrong in that week one performance. I'm very bullish, very high on Seattle as far as season long is concerned. So yeah, I think this is a good spot for them to get back to business. And uh, yeah, I think week one, it's really easy to overreact. Obviously we'll see a much more consistent performance.


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[Assistant] I was very encouraged by Anthony Richardson despite an ultra conservative game plan. I thought he played very well. Look, we knew he could run the ball. We knew he was a freak athlete. One of the best athletes ever played the quarterback position in my opinion. But yeah, I was actually impressed with his ability to throw the ball over the short and intermediate parts.


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[Assistant] Of the field, look very polished for the level of experience he has, not really having much of a sample size like dating back to obviously his collegiate history.


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[Assistant] So very encouraged with that performance. It makes sense how he won that job so quickly in the preseason and why the Colts, all the players are, you know, very high on his long-term outlook. But I think the Colts are going to be competitive.


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[Assistant] this season as a result of Anthony Richardson. I was not encouraged by the Houston Texans, their opponent, uh, on either side of the football. C.J. Stroud has a long ways to go. That offense has a long ways to go. Defensively, this is one of the worst defenses in NFL history last season. I'm sure it's going to improve a little bit under D'Amico Ryan, but


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[Assistant] I'm really concerned with the Chiefs receivers outside of obviously Travis Kelsey. Sky Moore did not look to be on the same page. He was a guy I like. Uh, Richie James should not be on an NFL roster in my opinion. Kaderius Tony just made mistake after mistake. Uh, Raishi Rice looked like the best ride receiver.


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[Assistant] On the chiefs and obviously made a couple mistakes there as well, but just looked like the only viable guy who Mahomes had any sort of continuity with.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think it's gonna be tough to find additional options when we're looking at this group of guys outside of Kelsey. I think even when Kelsey returns, there's gonna be someone needs to step up.


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[Assistant] Seven and a half points is a lot of points. I agree the Eagles performance did not inspire a lot of confidence. I do know that the Eagles, their primary, uh, what they want to do primarily on offense is attack down the field. I do know that that's going to take some time.


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[Assistant] Really some huge question marks. Nakobe Dean went down. He's out for the next month. They're signing guys off the street right now to play linebacker. The Eagles have struggled even when they're at their best to cover the middle of the field. I think that could equate with a lot of T.J. Hawkinson. I was also very impressed by Jordan Addison, the rookie wide receiver.


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[Assistant] The Bucs averaged 75 rushing yards per game last season. By far worse than the NFL. Somehow they look like they regressed running the ball. That was just absolutely terrible. Look at the Vikings defense that I don't think anyone thinks is going to be very good. So that Bucs offense is in tough shape.


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[Assistant] With the team. In the second half in particular, finally they realized what this trio of wide receivers can do. Christo Lave had the big monster second half. Just looked absolutely unguardable. I think they should have been going to him more aggressively early. Figured that out in the second half. Rashid Shahid looked phenomenal. Explosive down the field as well.


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[Assistant] I also don't know why Taysom Hill is still on the field. I thought with Sean Payton vacating, that would be it for Taysom Hill. I respect the guy. He's got versatility and all that, but just I don't think that he's really a


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[Assistant] Uh, so hopefully that can get cleaned up in week two. Uh, but yeah, I was impressed by this team defensively. They played better than I thought they would as well. I know Tennessee's offensive line was struggling.


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[Assistant] But they held Henry pretty well. And, uh, yeah, I think this thing's team could be the best team in the division. And I like them against this Panthers team who


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[Assistant] Look outmatched to me and just no help for...


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[Assistant] I do like the commanders here getting three and a half. I know obviously the game was close against Arizona, but I really think they got Arizona's best shot in that game. We also saw a very conservative game plan as well from this commander's offense. They relied heavily on field position.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the pick six podcast, CBS sports, NFL podcast. I'm over instant. I'm yours joined by John breach for a rather unfortunate emergency podcast. Can't even do a, uh, no, you know, siren noise for this one because it's so like hard to believe, but, um, Aaron Rogers.


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[Assistant] The New York Jets quarterback breach suffered what is being called an ankle injury for right now by the New York Jets. He was ruled out, suffered it in the fourth snap of the Jets season.


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[Assistant] On, uhm, of course 9-11 with the Jets in Jersey playing the Bills on Monday Night Football in one of the most anticipated and biggest games of the year. Rodgers had said, you don't dream about, you don't grow up and dream about playing at one o'clock. You dream about playing Monday Night Football. He's traded for the Packers to the Jets this all season. And in


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[Assistant] Four snaps. His night was ended and there is certainly fear around the Jets that.


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[Assistant] It could be worse. Uhm, I mean, I don't know how to set the scene. I mean, sort of the scene itself was just really surreal.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And I mean, like not to make it about the day in particular, but you know, it was in New Jersey, just miles from New York City on a day that is, you know, I mean, 9 11, what it's remembered for and like it being the standalone game. And as you pointed out, Rogers comes out with the American flag and like the, um, you know, we're not there.


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[Assistant] I think Joe Buck and Tori Aitman pointed out as well. It's like the energy in that place was through like just really hard to describe just how enthusiastic and overpower like just emotional and how everything was, um, and how excited jets fans were for this, this moment in this game. And then to have Rogers, um,


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[Assistant] On the fourth snap, he went over one, won a complete pass, attempted one pass, uh, to, to go out like that. And, and you're right. Like when he went down, you saw it, he got sacked and there was like a moment where you're like, okay, and he stood back up and then like, wait, why is he back on the ground?


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[Assistant] Like I just saw him standing up, like it looked like he was a little banged up. Like that's the scary part to me is that, um, that is along with, and I, you know, Adam Scheffer mentioned this, uh, at halftime, it's just something that people in the league were talking about and you can see it on the replays, but the quiver in his calf.


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[Assistant] Which is the concern that it could be something else. And uhm, you know, we, we don't want to play Twitter doctors, but the, you know, the jets did x-rays on the, on the ankle. It was negative. The, the uhm,


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[Assistant] The word that nobody wants to hear is Achilles, which is something I don't believe that you can hear on. Yeah. And you can see if you're watching on YouTube, the way that the left leg ends up being planted is just not good. And


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[Assistant] Um, you know, this was, uh, you know, I put it in a tweet in Slack. It's like somebody's like two and a half hours till something horrible happens. Aaron Rodgers on this MetLife turf for the rain. So, you know, cause it was rainy and you know, there's all kinds of concerns for the longterm, but just for right now, what we, what, what we know is Rogers was then helped with the sideline.


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[Assistant] He went to the blue medical tent. They didn't really show much of that. He goes in the blue medical tent and they're checking him out. And at this point, a cart comes over to the blue medical tent, which is like,


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[Assistant] You know, I have the manning cast on and then the regular cast on a separate television, but Peyton Manning, you know, and Eli are losing their minds because they can't believe what's happening. Um, the cart comes over.


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[Assistant] And when he was, when he was, when he was, it was like, Aaron Rogers was crushed with an ankle injury. And at that point, I think, and I think Peyton said this best, but it was like, everybody's sort of thinking he comes out with a tape top and keeps playing.


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[Assistant] And Zach Wilson's in the game. He goes back to the locker room, later seen. I know Mike Garofalo of NFL media who was on site reported that he was in the walking boot. ESPN cameras caught him in that walking boot.


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[Assistant] And he goes in the locker room and the jets tweet out that he's been downgraded to out, uh, with a, um, with a note that the X-rays were negative. I, you know, we, we say this a lot when we talk about injuries on here, but.


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[Assistant] And it's just the unfortunate nature of it. When you see an injury happen like that, especially if it's like somebody who's maybe older, especially if it's like that sort of situation. And at eight 33, they tweet that he's questionable return. And then at.


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[Assistant] 9 or 3, just 30 minutes later he's ruled out, but his x-rays are negative. That's a really bad sign.


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[Assistant] Like, and you see that on here, you can see the 903 in the two hours. It's, it's, it's 833 and 903. You're watching on YouTube. Like that is a big, big concern to rule out a quarterback of Roger's nature in this huge of a game that quickly with, and I want to say just an ankle injury because it could be a high ankle sprain, which would keep it out for a few weeks, uh, more than likely, but to be ruled out that quickly is definitely a big concern, right?


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[Assistant] I do think, and I don't want to like harp on the Jets for this, but I do think it matters for the long haul because we talked about this all off season when discussing the Jets, uh, you know, future potential for the season that the there's offensive line concerns on this team.


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, like this team had offensive line concerns to begin with. The Bills have a pretty good pass rush, but not like this, um, you know, insane pass rush, I don't think. And the fact that, especially with Vaughn Miller out, Leonard Floyd got to him on the playing question. But like, I think


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[Assistant] That is, uh, and I don't, again, don't want to harp on the tajar saur or anything like that, but it's like the...


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[Assistant] Everyone's like penciling the jets in for this playoff spot and saying, all right, this offense is going to be incredible with Aaron Rodgers upgrading from, uh, from Zach Wilson. And with that defense, it'd be impossible for this team not to be really, really good this year. And they were Superbowl contenders coming into the season.


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[Assistant] They absolutely were contenders to win the AMC South of the AMC East. Excuse me. Like that wasn't out of the question at all, but I think it from a macro perspective.


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[Assistant] And analyzing the Jets potential for this season, the fact that Rogers dealt with that kind of pressure that early in this game, um, you know, when you have all the time to prepare, absolutely, uh, is a, is a case where you have to wonder, is that offensive line a bigger concern for, for the entire season? Uh, and, and, or as long as Aaron Rogers is, or is there, or anybody's there?


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[Assistant] Uh, and I think too, just speaking about the personnel and everything and, uh, you know, we don't want to get into the, the, the game itself because it's, you know, we'll probably don't record it before it's over, but like Brice Hall at 118 rushing yards and.


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[Assistant] Garrett Wilson called a touchdown pass. Allen's are was active after Rogers went out and it's like, man, you know, if that offensive line is good, maybe this team could.


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[Assistant] Be, you know, be that big of a contender. All right, let's take a quick break and when we come back, we will cover the rest of the fallout from a possible Aaron Rodgers injury.


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[Assistant] So we mentioned Aaron Rodgers out for Monday nights ruled out within about 30 minutes of being listed as questionable, which is not what you want to see. Um, if okay, I want to frame this as an if because that is very important. This could be an ankle injury and it could be that could be it and he can miss a couple of games. He can be back next week. I think that's pretty unlikely, especially against the Cowboys. If as some people have alluded to,


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[Assistant] And I say if, and this is again important because we're going to, we're going to give you a models from our, the sports line projection model that basically break down what would happen. Um, if Rogers were to miss the whole season, this is just the devastating reality of it. Um, the projections go from 9.6 wins.


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[Assistant] A 25% chance of winning the division, a 60% chance of making the playoffs, a 2.2% chance of winning the Super Bowl to 5.8 wins with a season worth of Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] A 0.9% chance to win the division, 4.7% chance to make the playoffs and a 0.1% to win the Super Bowl. As you can see on the screen, it's just a massive downgrade. And that's the reality of last year. Breach is, I mean, does that feel like too much of a downgrade for you?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would tend to agree with that. I mean, I think like, yeah, seven wins from last year and plus Zach Wilson, you have to imagine has gotten better learning under Aaron Rogers, uh, throughout this whole off season. He has been under pressure ever since Rogers went out there. So certainly that is a concern just given how like again, the offensive line, but that defense is


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[Assistant] Pretty pretty freaking good. Uhm, and so like, you know, again, the just the rumors about the injuries.


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[Assistant] By the time, like we'll know probably by Tuesday afternoon what the, what the severity is, whether it is a, just an ankle sprain, a high ankle sprain or the, you know, the worst case scenario, which would be the Achilles, uh, based on the, the, you know, people thinking out there that they saw a, uh, you know, a shiver with his calf upcoming for the jets.


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[Assistant] As Breach mentioned, the Cowboys in week two, the Pats at home in week three, the Chiefs at home in week four, at the Broncos in week five, and then the Eagles at home in week six. This is a brutal schedule.


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[Assistant] Here's the possible silver lining to this brutal schedule. Let's say that it is a high ankle sprain as you suffer in week one. And that's like a 46 week injury usually, right? You could make the case that with that schedule,


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[Assistant] I don't know, I missed time during that schedule and hope Zach Wilson steals a couple of wins. And then all of a sudden you come back and try and make a push. Like, I think that would be the argument, uh, that, that you hope for, but certainly a, um, a concern, uh, this is, uh, this is sort of 10, it was 10 gentle and it matters. This is the football show. Um, but I think Mike Lombardi tweeted out correctly. The Packers.


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[Assistant] Won't get a first round pick if Aaron Rodgers doesn't play 70% of the snaps this year. You missed four to six weeks, even even three to four weeks.


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[Assistant] And it's pretty tough to play 70% of the snaps. That's just the basic math on a 17 game schedule. So you know, if you're the like.


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[Assistant] I don't think the Jets will factor that in if Rodgers can come back and can play and is fine or is good to play or like whatever the outcome is. But I mean, certainly that matters at least to both of these teams because the difference between a first round pick and a second round pick giving up a high one of those is a big difference.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, if people get mad at us for pointing that out on a football podcast, so be it. I mean, that's, that's just the reality of it. I mean, you can see like, you know, the Bardi's tweet got 10k likes. I mean, it's, it is a, it is a, and maybe it's a bunch of people quote tweeting and say, no, could you in this time? But like, it doesn't matter, you know, like that's a, it's an original first round pick and a second round pick. All right. Anything else that we need to cover?


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[Assistant] Just, uh, it's wild to have this, um, sort of slow first slate. Then things got a little crazy in the afternoon. Then you have the Cowboys just obliterate the giants. And then this game like,


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[Assistant] Just based on the first 5 minutes of this, or the first 10 minutes of this game.


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[Assistant] Robert Kraft also just waived the, the entry period, the time period to get into the Patriot's Ring of Honor.


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[Assistant] Unbelievable. Carson Wentz, former Super Bowl champion. Carson Wentz. Uh, Phillip Rivers, if you want to throw a picture of him up there too, he's technically a free agent. Um, Joe Flacker is still a free agent, played for the Jets last year.


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[Assistant] Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan said when he joined CBS, the NFL and CBS and, and our, and our, and a member of a pair of the Paramount family that he's like, look, I'm, I'm doing this, but this is not a retirement post. So you never officially retired. So Matt Ryan would potentially make sense as a.


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[Assistant] There's some big interesting names out there. It's tough to figure something out if you're the Jets. Zach Wilson is probably still your guy, but my goodness, what a twist and a turn week one took on Monday night with


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[Assistant] The Jets losing Aaron Rodgers in their first game of what they expected to be an incredible season. Of course, we'll have much more content breaking down this Aaron Rodgers injury. Tune into CBS Sports HQ, your free live 24 seven streaming sports service to get constant information on that. Paramount Plus. You can just watch it on there if you want. For John Breach, I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Pick Six Podcast, CBS Sports, NFL Podcast. I'm Wil Britson. I'm your host or leader today or whatever the hell we're calling it. Leaders and Legends. Big Ten, baby. Uh, join me, Brady Quinn and the Lazy Inducible. Fellas, what's up?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was gonna, it isn't, are you guys using like a laptop or like what's the deal here?


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[Assistant] There's no points scored. Dude, this is like it unders were 10 and two last week. No points are being scored.


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[Assistant] And we've seen, like, I know, like, you know, remember, like, when the Rams and Chiefs played on that Monday night football game, when Jared Goff was on the Rams and- Yeah, shoot out.


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[Assistant] But it was like, it was like literally every smart football writer, like Kevin Clark is my boy, wrote something about it. Like, you know, the Wall Street Journal has, I don't think it was in the ring or like every site was like, welcome to the new era of football. Star Wars has changed our lives and football will be an explosive. It's like, okay.


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[Assistant] Like there are going to be some good offenses, but there have been good offenses for like 20 years. Like the Rams were awesome in the early 2000s. Uhm, and like.


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[Assistant] It hasn't really panned out that way. If anything, I think we've seen like the migration of some teams saying we can't be explosive and we're going to go to like ground and pound. Uhm, but we see a real the last two years. Unders have been hitting at a shockingly high rate, the highest rate over the last.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, 15 to 20 years and 21.7 points per game this season. That's weak sauce, Brady.


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[Assistant] I think it's, I mean, it's a really interesting topic and it's like looking, we were talking about, Brady and I just texted briefly about the quarterbacks from like 2016.


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[Assistant] You don't like sorting by touchdown leaders, it's Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, one of VP, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Andrew Luck, Ben Roethlisberger, Tom Brady at number seven, and you get to like Derek Card at eight, James Winston at nine, and you still have Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Kirk Cousins, Matthew Stafford, rookie, uh, Dak Prescott, right? And uh, rookie Jared Goff, rookie Carson Wentz.


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[Assistant] And uhm, additionally, Russell Wilson, who was still playing at a really high level at that point in time. You had like Andy Dalton and Ryan Tannehill were mid or whatever. So there's definitely that drop off. I sort of wonder like,


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[Assistant] And how teams run their offenses and the wider hash marks and all that. Is it like a self-fulfilling prophecy for the quarterbacks and the offensive linemen? It's not that.


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[Assistant] But that's sort of what I mean. I'm saying like, one, you have these coaches in college, like, dude, if you don't win within a couple of years, in most places, you're gone.


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[Assistant] That's why you get this ineligible man downfield because it's the guy, they're run blocking and the quarterback pulls and then throws.


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[Assistant] Alright, so the 2016 quarterbacks that I talked about, number one overall pick that year, Jared Goff. Didn't have a great season in 2016.


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[Assistant] And then he's a bust again. The life cycle of a quarterback man is just wild. Like it's, people, like it is the highest pressure job in, in all of sports, any sports, any sport, and golf gets traded.


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[Assistant] I think he's like part of it too though because it's like Jared Goff is the best quarterback in the NFC and in 2016 like the third best quarterback in the NFC was like Drew Brees. Which is just, you know, that's a big difference.


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[Assistant] The, uh, by the way, uh, Jerry golf, uh, over at fan duel. Just look at the odds. Two of the favorite at plus three 30 Patrick Holmes, three, uh, plus three 40 Josh Allen, six and a half to one. Jalen hurts eight and a half to one Brock party 10 to one.


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[Assistant] If you, if you put the lions, if you put the lions in and I've said this like all week, but like take this lions team.


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[Assistant] Take off their jerseys, put Cowboys jerseys on them. And they're like the favorite to win the Super Bowl. It costs like five to one to win MVP because it's like people just aren't willing. There's just like a, you're waiting to see.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Speaking of the Vikings, let's go, let's talk about the AFCs version of the Vikings.


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[Assistant] I think the Vikings were like, look, we, somebody, I saw somebody tweeted out, it was like, let's just fast forward to the two minute warning in the fourth quarter of the Cowboys Chargers game. Someone's going to be up three points.


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[Assistant] Inside two and a half minutes, I think, so far this season, is Justin Herbert anti-clutch.


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[Assistant] The Philip Rivers and the Justin Herbert era in one score games. This team is who they are and they're going to do. It's like you're stuck in like, you're stuck in one score hell for perpetuity. If you're a Chargers fan, like, like, I don't know if like,


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[Assistant] I thought it was the weakest sauce move of all time for Archie Manning to be like, my son's not playing for this franchise, but he wasn't wrong. He might have known.


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[Assistant] By the way, Worth, uh, no, I'm getting this from the Twitter account. We, I follow it. Uh, it's at TB underscore facts. It's like a Dom Brady facts Twitter account. They actually have good, they, I am just giving you the, but they went in, uh, the, the proprietor of the account went and did instead of like, cause you can sort by number of game winning drives, but that's a little misleading because it's like,


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[Assistant] You know, some guys have more opportunities, right? So like, this is, they sorted by percentage of game winning drives. Uhm, Tom Brady, ridiculous, 72 of 127. That's 56.7%.


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[Assistant] That is an outrageous number of conversions on his attempts at game winning drives. Um, Vince Young is actually number two, but it's like 13 to 23. You have Mahomes, Andrew Luck, Elway, Peyton Manning, Nick Foles, small number two, Garoppolo, small number, Big Ben.


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[Assistant] You know, you just see like, like when you look at the, it checks out like anecdotally, like Stafford's kind of up there. Herbert is behind, right behind Drew Brees at 43.3%, 13 of 30.


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[Assistant] I think that's probably too small a sample to definitively say anything either way, but like,


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[Assistant] The eye test in the Chargers test does say, man, these, this team can really lose a football game late.


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[Assistant] I'm like, what the hell is going on? And starts rubbing the sides of it. Well, apparently when you take it, cause like the pressure compresses it and when you rub it, the sound it makes is like similar to a dying grouper.


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[Assistant] I have been, I have been put on by a remora, which is like a parasite, but that's a whole different story for a whole different day. Um, we should probably take a break. And when we come back.


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[Assistant] Oh boy. Why is my, my brain is such a little tiny like squirrel. It's like, it's like I almost took this in a totally different direction involving the se-


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[Assistant] I know. Involving like the South Carolina Gamecocks. Did you know what they call it, October?


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[Assistant] Now, but like, I see Josh Pate, our colleague, tweet about this, so I think it's fine to call it Cocktober, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess I didn't decide myself. It could be Brocktober for the 49ers.


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[Assistant] Hadn't gone very well for South Carolina or San Francisco.


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[Assistant] Or anybody who likes pumpkin spice lattes. I bet Brady you're a pumpkin spice guy.


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[Assistant] Isn't that creme brulee? I'm just kidding. I'm a cookie man.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, Falling Leaves, Football, Halloween. God, Halloween's right here too.


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[Assistant] And uh, trade deadline, which is actually on Halloween. What? Which is interesting.


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[Assistant] Thank God the trade-down night is not like on April Fool's Day. I hate April Fool's Day. Worst holiday on the planet. Uh, we got Bradley Chubb, Christian McCaffrey, Rochon Smith, Calvin Ridley, all traded last year. This is a big name trades.


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[Assistant] Let's talk who should be buyers and who should be sellers. Uh, Brady, you can go first. Who should be a buyer at the deadline and what should they be looking for?


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[Assistant] Like having to like, like the cost to acquire and then like the, you know, acclimating the system, which would be the interest rate too high.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's interesting because you've got like, you look at this, it's the part of the problem for the NFL with the trade deadline is we start these talks, we finished six weeks of football, right? And as you point out, like the Jaguars this time last year were two and four.


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[Assistant] And the Jaguars went on to win the division and make a big run. So you can't definitively say they acquired Calvin Ridley, but he couldn't play. You look at the AFC and.


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[Assistant] You can go down as far as the 14th team in the AFC, the Tennessee Titans at two and four. I mean, they're two games out of first place in their division. Like the Titans are gonna be like, well.


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[Assistant] And then maybe if Ryan Daniel was out for the year, you, you consider something different if you can get like actual value in return. But Mike Vrabel is not a I'm going to give up and just call the dogs off at two and four type of guy. I don't think. So really like New England and Denver on the AFC side, especially if


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[Assistant] Uh, May, May was like, May has been a lot better the last two weeks since he got Tez Walker back too, and Tez Walker plays a similar spot to like Josh Downs, like Josh Downs was his guy last year. He's been great for


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. Um, on the NFC side, actually we'll stick on the AC side dudes. Cause you've got a, I mean, look, your team three and three. I mean, there's talking about Rodgers coming back. Let's be realistic.


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[Assistant] Let's say, I mean, I don't think this is going to happen. Aaron Rodgers comes back and plays in the playoffs. Like I think that's insane. Like this is not an ACL would even be pretty tough, but in Achilles, man, like at his age, I understand he's ahead of schedule and all that. If Zach Wilson gets him to nine or 10 wins and Aaron Rodgers can play in the wild card, is he like, I mean,


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[Assistant] So, uh, they've got those three games, giants, chargers, Raiders, then they have at the bills and the dolphins at home. I think if you can be six and five through those games.


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[Assistant] Then you are, you consider yourself very much a playoff contender with Falcons, Texans at home, at Dolphins, Commanders, at Browns, at Patriots to close out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it is. I mean, like, at Brown's at Patriots is not a, not a...


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[Assistant] Yeah. Um, all right. Other possible buyers, Brady, let's say you're the GM.


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[Assistant] I can see either one of you guys being GMs. It'd be fun. Just like, mostly like, I'd prefer, I want to see Brady's a GM just so he's like antagonized by local reporters. Uhm, like I feel like, like dudes, you don't want to be the GM of the chats. That seems like a good chance.


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[Assistant] I was like, you're just asking, asking too much of a human being's soul to be the GM of the Jets.


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[Assistant] Packers, Vikings, like one of these teams where they're on the fringe of the playoff race. Are you, do any of those teams interest you Brady as a buy a possible buyer?


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[Assistant] Uh, dudes, the Panthers are a team that own six, gonna be done, don't have a first round pick, need to get some draft capital back. Any, any possible partners for the, the Panthers?


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[Assistant] Panthers and Bills have the connection with Sean McDermott and uh, Brandon, uh, Brandon Bean who was there. Alright, we're gonna take a very quick break and then we're gonna very quickly make some Thursday Night Football picks.


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[Assistant] Was it the saints on a short week? The Jags have been London reinvigorated them. Um.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's uh, it's actually moved. It was Saints minus one. The theory was like, we don't know about Lawrence. It's actually moved to Saints minus one and a half, which is kind of interesting.


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[Assistant] 11 or actually 10 of 13 games this week have a total of 45 or less, including, uh, this one, which currently a total of 39 and a half. There's a bunch of totals under 40, uh,


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[Assistant] Who you got? Wanna go total or side? We'll get you out of here on this, guys.


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[Assistant] Ah, there's Harry making a cameo in light of his dolphins crushing it tonight. All right, here we go. This is the pick six podcast guys. And this Sunday night super friends. That's Will Brinson and that's John breach. I'm Ryan Wilson. And this is a Sunday night super friends, week three NFL recap, 2023 edition.


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[Assistant] All right, so here's the plan just so we're clear cause we get a little pushback from, uh, from folks every now and then we're going to hit on our top 10 takeaways. Not every single football game from week three, the biggest storylines, the best players, the top plays and those suspect coaching decisions that bring us together as a nation. Hello, Josh McDaniels.


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[Assistant] Man, it's awesome to be a football. First things first though, remember give us a thumbs up if you're watching us on YouTube at NFL and CBS. And of course subscribe wherever your podcast breach. So you never miss a show. All right. Hey, Wilson, before we get started, do you have a teleprompter?


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[Assistant] You have a teleprompter, don't you? We saw producer Harry flash in his Dolphins Jersey. So first up, we're going to South Florida. Richard, you wearing Tanner where the dolphins dropped a 70 burger on the Broncos.


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[Assistant] By the way, Breech, it's the only fourth time in NFL history that a team has scored 70, and you have to go back to 1966 to find out the last time it happened. The Dolphins, meanwhile, are 3-0 in large part because Tua has been helping. When he's helping, he has been dealing. So think about it after how last year played out for him with all the concussions.


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[Assistant] This year round, he's been hit five times in three games. That's it. One sack.


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[Assistant] He's not getting hit because it feels like that last year, you don't even remember the first three games because of the concussions. And Brenton, let me set you up and we'll get right to it here. Here's my big takeaway. Tua is the best quarterback in the NFL.


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[Assistant] This is the best offense in the NFL. Mike McD, Mike McDaniel, the second year head coach is the best play caller in the NFL. So Brenton, I'll ask you first, if you agree with that and the follow-up will be the same question I asked you two weeks ago. Is two a worth that 55 million a year plus money?


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[Assistant] If you watch Tua's throws, and I went back and watched all his throws for watching some of the young guys as well, no one throws with better anticipation than Tua in the NFL. So if you, I mean, you can sort of build it around and breach huge disrespect to you for not calling out Frank Smith, offensive coordinator for the Dolphins and only mentioned to Mike McD.


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[Assistant] Miami of Ohio grad, but if you just sort of discount that to as a function of this offense and breach, you mentioned he's better than Brock Purdy. He is miles better than Brock Purdy and.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, what if you put Patrick Mahomes in Miami's offense? Are they better than they are with Dua? Yes.


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[Assistant] Well, there's no one, no one's throwing with better anticipation than Tua. I mean, you can go back and watch some of those, some of those throws. Now today, guys are running wide ass open, so that, I would ask you to go look at the, the first two games.


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[Assistant] Is Tua, two part of the question. Princeton didn't answer the second part of my other question. Two part question to you. Is Tua, and we're gonna move on in a second. Is Tua the best quarterback in that draft class? It includes Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert. And are you paying a 55 million plus a year?


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[Assistant] Cause week one, you, you were less certain. For instance, are you coming around on, on.


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[Assistant] Sean Payton gave his Brandon Staley post-game interview. Brandon Staley last week, Sean Payton this week. He did not want to hear the noise about his team laying down. And uhm, Brenton, I came to you to start, but I'll come back to you again because you were an ardent Sean Payton defender and you thought that he would be the magic elixir that would fix this thing. Now it's worth pointing out that Sean Payton wanted Vic Tangio to be his defense coordinator. Vic Tangio was on the other side.


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[Assistant] As part of that ass whooping that they laid on the Broncos. Russ Wilson actually is better. It don't matter.


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[Assistant] So, uh, again, I'll keep asking this question, like I keep asking the $55 million a year to a question. Is Sean Payton the answer? Because Sean Payton, Payton isn't the answer, and I think this means he ain't going anywhere. I think it means Vance Joseph, the defense coordinator, might be, uh, his seat might be higher than Brandon Staley's right now.


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[Assistant] I didn't say that, but that's a, that's a question that should be asked, I would imagine, cause, what are we doing?


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[Assistant] Right here. Let me ask a question because, um, you're, you're getting to a point here. So Justin Simmons was out. Frank Clark was out. You can make excuses if you want, but I don't think there were 70 points breaching. Let me read you two stats from the Miami offensive side of the ball and then explain to me how Vance Joseph is going to have a conversation with his head coach on Monday morning when they have had their little meeting here.


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[Assistant] The odds of two, and you sort of touched on this, and this is next-gen stats, the odds of two of completing every one of his 16 pass attempts in the first half?


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[Assistant] Uh, based on completion probability, 2.2%. He did it. And this other stat I want to read you again, next year in stance, everyone at Tyreek Hills, nine interceptions against the Broncos came on an in-breaking route, 157 yards on in-breaking routes is the most in the game over the last four seasons. So again, if I'm, if I'm Sean Payton and you're Vance Joseph, and I say, Hey, how do you explain this Vance? What are you going to say?


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[Assistant] Move on quickly on this. Give me something, give me like one minute so we'll keep moving.


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[Assistant] Brenton, are you any help to stump Bronco's team makes the playoffs?


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[Assistant] Typically 2.5% chance to make the playoffs, and I think for the Broncos it's probably a negative number. Quickly, most losses by 50 or more points in NFL history. The Broncos have three, and the other team that has three,


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[Assistant] The Rochester Jeffersons who were last in the NFL in 1925. They tied the freaking Jeffersons? The Jeffersons, not the George Jeffersons, the Rochester Jeffersons. But they get a Rochester Jeffersons jersey. All right, Breeze, coming back to you. I'm going to give you three upsets from Sunday's action. You tell me which one was worse. Cause I have an idea. Texas over the Jaguars. Colts over time over the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Are the Cardinals beating the doodoo that breaks off the Cowboys?


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[Assistant] It depends if he wants to play within the confines of the offense, I'm sure he's an upgrade, but you know, we'll see. Um, couple other things. Uh, Matt Prater, turns out he's better than Justin Tucker, at least on one day, Justin missed a 61 yarder. And, uh, Brenton, I'm going to go with the Texan over the Jaguars. That's the biggest upset of the day. Do you agree with that?


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[Assistant] No, you go ahead. I was, I was setting you up. Alright. I had an idea what you were going to say.


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[Assistant] I think Zach Moss made a good case for why Ersay may have fallen ass backwards in the


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[Assistant] So Jonathan Taylor is clearly a better football player, but, uh, price per carry may be something that, uh, continues to be a talking point.


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[Assistant] Well lemme, lemme follow up with that. Mush, it's a turf field, so does mush come into play there?


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[Assistant] I do, and, you know, we don't have to get off of this. I, I do the, uh, Scott Hanson. And then I just have two other, two other games on that way I can.


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[Assistant] By the way, Breach, you didn't mention this and you might get your kicker badge revoked.


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[Assistant] Not only did Matt Gay kick 450 plus yarders, he striped four. Like, there was no question about any of them, despite what happened.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was an MVP performance, even by non-breachy in standards. Alright, so I've got something left. I've got to go with the Texans over the Jaguars.


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[Assistant] Mostly two parts of this. Shout out to CJ Stroud. There was a conversation and I think there's a lot of truth to it leading up to the draft. The Texans necessarily weren't sold on CJ at the number two pick.


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[Assistant] And then they did all that math and DJ, uh, I mean, Daniel Jeremiah actually predicted it in his last mock draft, I think where they traded back up and got both CJ and Will Anderson, two guys they really liked. I'd heard that they were going to take Will at number two. Uh, Will blocked a kick today, a field goal. And then CJ, as you see here in this graphic from our dude Harry here, most passing yards in the first three career games ever.


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[Assistant] Tankdell, their trap pick, balled out a wide receiver. Will Anderson was making plays, uh,


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[Assistant] Blake Cashman had the interception on a really poor, poorly thrown ball from Trevor.


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[Assistant] Uh, they had some silly turnovers on the other side of the ball, despite the, the interception from Trevor Lawrence. And Brenton, I thought it was interesting that you mentioned the play calling. Look, man, we ain't talking about Matt Cannon and Luke Getzey. We're talking about Doug Peterson, who reportedly, according to some Twitter reports, took over play calling at halftime. He was asked about it. Press Taylor gave a coy answer to it.


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[Assistant] So whether it's Pres Taylor, who is Zach's brother, the coach for the Bengals, who a lot of people respect around the league. Are they really brothers? I didn't know that.


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[Assistant] Or whether it's Doug Peterson, who is the dude. So, I mean, there are no excuses about, well,


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[Assistant] Blame the play calling. I mean, you can, but that's a huge problem, it feels like. So, Brinson, do you want to defend Doug, and or press, and or Trevor Lawrence?


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[Assistant] Alright, let's keep talking about the quarterbacks, Trevor Lawrence in particular, and, uh, Brenton, I'll come to you.


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[Assistant] Which young quarterback had the craptasticiest day? I think I just made that word up. Trevor Lawrence, we just talked about him. Sam Howell, who was sacked nine times and threw four interceptions in a game that, uh, he doesn't have to worry about forgetting because I'm pretty sure he lost his memory the way they were being, he was being treated by that defense. They went after him.


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[Assistant] Or Justin Fields, who has been living one long nightmare for his duration in Chicago, his teammates and his coaches refused to help him. And it was a particularly long day in Kansas city. He finished 11 to 22 for 99 yards, uh, teammates dropping passes.


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[Assistant] Uh, questionable play calls, the same old same old there. For me, I think it's probably Trevor Lawrence, not based solely on the numbers. You hate Trevor Lawrence though. But I think the issue with, with Sam Howell is like nine sacks and that can't all be on you. So Brinson, who are you going with? Uh, I would say Sam Howell.


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[Assistant] Let me say this quickly, just to touch you up. So, highest expectations for Trevor Lawrence, I would imagine, coming into the season, and then Sam Howell, who knows, Justin Fields, feels like he's on his way out the door.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I think that's right. I think Jacoba resets in the, in the wings and he's reliable. And Sam Howell.


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[Assistant] Feels like he would be less inclined to bounce back in a way that Trevor Lawrence would because we've seen Trevor Lawrence have to do it under some, some pretty dire circumstances with a previous head coach, no doubt about it. All right.


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[Assistant] Weeks of the season wasn't really asked to do much. The defense sort of did the heavy lifting and you might say, well.


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[Assistant] The defense said hold up a cent of the bargain against Josh Dobbs, but you can't say that without laughing.


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[Assistant] Uh, terrible interception at the end of the game. And I, I went back and looked. That last drive...


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[Assistant] It was 28-16 Arizona scored and our guy Mike McCarthy follows us up. They get the ball at 7-22 and they run a 14 play drive that ends at that interception. Use up four and a half minutes.


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[Assistant] Eight of those plays are run plays and there is no urgency. And I'm sorta confused by that. But are you putting this on, on DAC? Is it Mike McCarthy being without Kelly Moore? Is it something else? Is it the injuries? Uh, are you concerned about the Cowboys? Cause this feels like the Cowboys charging in a Cowboys way.


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[Assistant] I just want to go on record saying I was never on the Cowboys this year. I, I just don't trust Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott makes me very nervous. I mean, they can turn them around. One game you jump off the bandwagon.


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[Assistant] Sean Payton playing the long game. They'd have lost by a hundred if he didn't do that. So shout out to Sean Payton for thinking ahead. All right. Let's say quick break when we come back.


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[Assistant] We'll talk about which two in one team we think is going to be terrible down the stretch.


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[Assistant] Lotaria Loca, that's John Breach. If you're listening to the audio version, Paramount Plus, check it out. All right, Breach.


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[Assistant] There are a lot of teams that are two and one. There are a lot of teams that are one and two. Let's start with a good, let's be positive. So, one team each.


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[Assistant] Just give me your, your one word or two word answer if you want to give their, their full name. If they're, their Christian name. Uh, which two in one team you feel good about? And then we'll circle back and sort through it. So Breach, which two in one team do you feel good about in terms of them making some waves, being in the same for the long haul and making their way to the playoffs?


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[Assistant] Preston, who you got? Two in one team that you are all in on.


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[Assistant] We're going to go around and then we're going to circle back. So we've got the Chiefs, the Kansas City Chiefs, the Detroit Lions, which is actually a thoughtful pick for each. And I'm going to get even more thoughtful-er, make a board here. I'm going with another three-worder, Green Bay Packers.


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[Assistant] I wonder how two will do in Germany. All right. Well, that was an easy one. Uh, Brinton, you can give a more passion defense for the Detroit Lions. You had a little bounce back.


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[Assistant] Well, to Breach's point, you don't want to be Justin Fields and throw for 99 yards, so.


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[Assistant] Here's how we'll know, and then we'll move on. Breach, did you write a story about Taylor Swift today for CBSWorst.com?


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[Assistant] I mean, Bernie Quinn's sister is married to Ada Hawk. They worked it out. It's fine. Notre Dame in Ohio States. Alright.


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[Assistant] My favorite team, the, the Green Bay Packers 2-1. We'll talk about that in a second because Jordan Love is my new favorite. Uh, Taylor Swift, light crush. Uh, but quickly let's go through these one and two team that you feel good about Breach and it can't be the Chiefs, thank goodness.


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[Assistant] Jamieson didn't play poorly, but I mean, that team was up 17-nothin'.


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[Assistant] The saints were on my list too, as was Washington, but I'm going to go with the hometown Steelers. I'm not buying that Matt Canada nonsense. Big deal. You beat the team that's in the one and two list for me, the Raiders. Hooray. You're, you're good at beating terrible football teams on national television. So the Steelers are the Raiders for your two teams. Yeah. All right. But the team that I mentioned that I'm in love with it 201, Preach and Princeton are my Queen Bay Packers.


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[Assistant] So I watched that Jordan, we had the Jordan Love game here locally, so I watched that on one of the, uh, my little 8-inch televisions from back in the day.


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[Assistant] That guy is dealing, and they were getting their asses handed to them, and it had nothing to do with Jordan Love. Uh, Jay, Jay, Jayden Reed, excuse me, the second round pick out of Michigan State, dropped about 15 balls, so he made a great catch towards the end there. Uh, they were without some of their key players. Christian Watson still wasn't there. Aaron Jones didn't play. David Bakhtiari didn't play. It didn't matter.


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[Assistant] It feels like, I wonder if Matt LaFleur's heart of hearts wonders, or even hopes.


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[Assistant] That he had gone to Jordan Love last year. Not that he was better than Aaron Rodgers, but you get a year into the system so on and so forth.


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[Assistant] But at no point did Jordan Love looked upset. He forced an interception in the third quarter when they were down 17-0. But after that and before that, he was absolutely dealing. It certainly helped that Derek Carter went out. So I'll ask you, Brenton.


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[Assistant] Jordan Love's the, I want to ask, I'll tell you, Jordan Love's going to be the Packers' long-term quarterback, no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] How far can this team go? Because it feels like that division is wide open.


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[Assistant] There's something to be said, Breeze, tell me what you think about this. There's something to be said for having a quarterback sit for two or three or four years to get that redone deal, um, because his contract was going to be up his rookie deal, but that's just not the world we live in. But where are you on Jordan Love, the Jordan Love Love Fest, especially as it relates to winning that division?


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[Assistant] Hey, let me, let me make sure I heard you right, Breech. You were, were you confused about the going for two after they scored the first touchdown down 14? Is that what you just said?


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[Assistant] Right. Okay, good. So I wanted to bring up the other point and then we'll move on.


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[Assistant] A lot of people ask, someone asked me last week, I think, why do you go for two?


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[Assistant] When you're down 14, you score a touchdown, you're down six, and then you go for two. Why do you go for two the first time? Uh, well, this is why, because they went for two and they were down. What were they down? Was it, were they down?


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[Assistant] Hmm, interesting. Anyway, they did it, they pulled it off, and it was sort of fun to watch happen in real time. So, uh, to Breezy's point, LaFleur should've...


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[Assistant] Not gone floating port down earlier. He did the analytics math thing. Pulled a Mike McD. Later. And their car got hurt and they won.


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[Assistant] All right, uh, one word answer. Who wins the, uh, NFC North? Lyons. Breach. Detroit. Rock City.


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[Assistant] Who's gonna say Suits? I love Suits. And I love Jordan Love, so... Suits is really good. I will answer that later. Alright, let's talk about... Who do you think is in the North? I'll say the Packers, just to mix it up.


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[Assistant] All right, let's talk about a team that we talked about tangentially earlier because they were responsible for sacking Sam Howell nine times. But on the other side of the ball, Josh Allen, who had his own Sam Howell type of afternoon in week one, when he threw four, had four turnovers, looks to be Josh Allen again.


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[Assistant] He's playing within the confines of the offense. He's running the plays that are called. He's not scrambling on every opportunity and taking stupid hits. Uh, he's letting James Cook cook. He's letting Stefan Diggs cook and let the defense do the rest. So, for instance, Josh Allen's back, right?


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[Assistant] Alan, Alan did leave on the first week one. He was not there.


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[Assistant] Hey Breach, rank the teams in the AFC and then you can give us your, your bills take. And the entire AFC?


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[Assistant] All 16 teams, you can do the top 3 or wherever the bills come in and you can stop there if you want.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna take a quick break and come back. I'm gonna talk about how the Vikings out-charges the Chargers when it comes to Chargering right after this.


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[Assistant] Really? Yeah, I've reached dressed up as the back end of the bowl.


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[Assistant] And Breach, tell me what you would do in this situation. Let's say you're winning 28-24. It's fourth of one from your own 24 yard line. There's 1.46 left to go in the game. You can punt, you can kick a field goal, you can run out of the back of the end zone, or you can go for it with a super crappy running game. What are you going to do?


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[Assistant] So let me, let me set the stage even further, because I went and looked it up. Benbot, as you mentioned, uh, Brenton, is no longer on Twitter because of whatever X rules, but he does have a website and he luckily had this one up. The win probability, if you go for it in that situation, which we were all yelling and screaming at our televisions about,


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[Assistant] Is 89%. If you punt, it's only 79%, but here's the deal. You punt and you still have more than three quarters of a chance to win the football game. But.


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[Assistant] Brenton, why don't you talk about what happened in terms of how do the Vikings not win this game when they get the ball there?


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[Assistant] The very first throw that Kirby made, have to call him Kirby now even though he's played pretty well this year, uh, he hit CJ Osborne, I mean they were inches away from being a touchdown in the very first play which would have been whatever, a minute and change left. And after that it was straight downhill and it culminated with that interception where Aloi Gilman


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[Assistant] Had the PBU against Hawk and then the ball was intercepted and that was a wrap and Brandon Staley could unclench his butt cheeks.


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, I want to mention quickly. So look, we used to crush last year at Donatelle with that super terrible defense he played in Minnesota where everyone was running wide ass open. To Brian Flores' credit, he is getting after it.


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[Assistant] And this is the next gen set that got my attention. The Vikings blitzed Justin Herbert on 40 of his 50 drop backs, the second highest blitz rate, uh, in the next gen series. Herbert averaged 2.26 seconds time to throw.


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[Assistant] His first game under 2.4 seconds in his career and had a career high completion percentage over expected.


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[Assistant] Yeah, throw it, throw it and catch it. Mike Williams got hurt, we'll see where he is on that. But the reason I mentioned that thing, that staff from Next Gen Stats is because, uh, to bring it full circle, maybe Justin Herbert still is better than Tua. Although, for me, I'm team Tua until he proves me otherwise.


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[Assistant] A paucity of points. You like that alliteration?


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[Assistant] All right. Listen, man, Robert Sala continues to say that Zach Wilson is his dude. He said that after the, the, the loss to my Mac Jones Patriots. Uh, and I mentioned Zach Wilson because this Justine's defense is really good.


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[Assistant] And I mentioned Zach Wilson because we just talked about Kirby Cousins who's in the last year of his deal and he can be traded. Brenton, are you considering any.


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[Assistant] And all suitors for the quarterback job, are you going to pull a Salah and stick with Zach? And if you're considering these quarterbacks, is Kirby Cousins in the conversation?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, man, uh, I think Vince Lombardi said hope isn't a plan.


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[Assistant] It just feels like, here's what, here's what, here's what I would come back to. And I don't necessarily hate what you're saying, but if you asked Garrett Wilson on the sidelines on Sunday, would you rather have Kirk Cousins or would you rather have Zach Wilson? He would drive Zach Wilson to Minnesota, kick him out of the car and bring Kirk Cousins back as he has been frustrated.


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[Assistant] The moment Aaron Rodgers went down trying to deal with Zach Wilson. What do you think, Breach?


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[Assistant] But here's the other thing, you're all in, if you're the Packers, what's one more, I mean, here's the way I think about it, would Les Knee do it? Absolutely. He'd be like, yep, I'm gonna, I don't need these first round picks. I mean, that's very famously been on a t-shirt and they won a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And they will still not have Kirk Cousins or Matt Ryan or Philip Rivers or anyone else. It'll be Zach Wilson. All right. But around it out with this, the Sunday night football get together, truly terrible football, truly terrible decisions. And again, just like the, uh, the Chargers Vikings game, I'm gonna start at the end and Brinson, I want you to explain something to me. You look like a smart guy. That's a lie. 23 to 15.


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[Assistant] 23-15, and there's 3-15 to go in the fourth quarter. And Josh McDaniels in his infinite wisdom, who learned under the best, Bill Belichick, again down by eight, sends out the field goal team. The Steelers in their infinite stupidity.


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[Assistant] Get called for, uh, what's the thing when you jump on the guy's head? Leverage. It's called leverage. You have leverage, you say. Or leverage if you're in England. So the drive continues.


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[Assistant] First and 10 at the Pittsburgh 14. You're down by eight and they get down to the eight yard line. The Raiders do now with 225 to go. You got to go for it. I would imagine. And Joshua Daniels goes forward with Daniel Carson's foot to make it a 23 to 15 game or 23 to 18 game. Excuse me.


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[Assistant] And, and doesn't onside on the ensuing kickoff. So on what planet are you kicking a field goal when you're down eight with two minutes to go?


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[Assistant] Remember last year when the Raiders started one and four and then they were two and seven and they lost their last three and last four or five. And we were talking about Joshua Daniel potentially being on the hot seat and Mark Davis, neither, neither Mark Davis nor his bowl cut. We're going to have that.


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[Assistant] Are we getting close to that? I mean, look, Jimmy Garoppolo is serviceable. Devonte Adams is a Hall of Famer.


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[Assistant] But Josh McDaniels has made a lot of head scratching decisions that on some level cost his team wins. So how far down? If it's, if one to 10 on the hot seat and 10 is Brandon Staley, what number are we given Josh McDaniels?


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[Assistant] What should it be? What should the Brinson hot seat meter be for Josh McDaniels?


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[Assistant] That's fine, but I mean this is the hallmark of mediocre organizations. That's my point. I mean if you want to win, you can make all the excuses you want and blame.


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[Assistant] You can play Game of Thrones, but at the end of the day, you're still a terrible fullback. I mean, don't you agree, though, that like the roster is like bereft of talent, thanks to John Green? That roster's not terrible. I mean, I've seen, have you seen the Bears roster?


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[Assistant] Yeah. And what changed Zach Taylor's fortunes? He became a better coach Ryan. He signed up for yoga. He needs to sign up.


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[Assistant] Emory Jones, quarterback of Cincinnati. That's it! That's a wrap on Sunday night, Super Friends. But don't worry, we'll see you guys back here next Sunday night. In the meantime, check out the Pick 6 podcast all week on NFL on CBS or wherever you get your pods. Alright, thank all you guys who hung out with us in the chat. Where'd you get your teleprompter? What's that? Where'd you get your teleprompter?


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[Assistant] For Brettsam, for Breach, for Producer Harry, I'm Wilson. See you guys next week!


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess I look at it a little bit different because I think you're talking about two different things. Like for example, having an additional preseason game, like they used to have with the old week four preseason game, it was a lot of those back into the roster guys. And one of the reasons why those guys tend to play.


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[Assistant] The bulk of those plays was because the starters actually played back then. You play a little game two, you know, game three as well. And then you probably sit out that final preseason game.


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[Assistant] In this case though, now we've cut down to three and on top of that.


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[Assistant] You know, we very rarely see starters play anywhere close to a big portion or share of, of the preseason game. So I actually, uhm, what I'd liked about having the two wave of cuts,


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[Assistant] Was, I think it's one of the little softer for the guys who had no shot. They just kind of move on from, let them go try to find a, you know, potentially a spot somewhere else or it allowed if you were a veteran guy.


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[Assistant] It kinda puts the team more in control of when they're gonna release you. And if you talk to some general managers, I was talking to Rick Spielman earlier today about this.


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[Assistant] For those veteran guys, usually he'd say, hey, if we knew we were going to keep the guy, we'd try to release him a little bit early. But now you're really putting it into their hands and they're kind of controlling when that happens.


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[Assistant] So I'm never one where you want to have team control. I think you'd like to be able to, as a player, force them to release you so you have another opportunity to play somewhere else. Maybe the last preseason game.


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[Assistant] And having it this way. And I also think, uhm, it gave a little bit of like a break.


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[Assistant] You know, those sorts of things, uh, it's not as, uh, hectic and it's not as chaotic, because you've got it spread out over two cuts. So, I actually like the two cut a little more from the, like, player empowerment standpoint, uh, than I do the one cut. Uh, but, but I understand, like, especially in a world of four preseason games, it makes a ton of sense.


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[Assistant] But now in a world of three, maybe two, like the stars aren't really playing anyway.


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[Assistant] Week one, week one, opening day roster, especially for some of those veterans who are on that


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[Assistant] That kind of vet minimum deal or back towards the backers behind those because if they stay on, if they make that week one, uh, game day.


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[Assistant] You could even make the case up to like late Saturday night, Sunday morning. Of week one, you sweat movement, a hundred percent, a hundred percent.


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[Assistant] On that note, by the way, I was just gonna ask Will, like, why would you, why would you draft a kicker punter?


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[Assistant] I feel like every time we come around to, and I'm not trying to be overly critical on, you know, the teams that do or just the position itself.


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[Assistant] But we go through like a training camp preseason. We see so many teams cut a guy that they drafted or they drafted the year prior that was like iffy coming into camp.


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[Assistant] That's like, dude, why don't just like, like just sign a free agent and go make these guys own it.


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[Assistant] Like, I never understand that that's like the one, those, that's the one kind of position group, either kick or punter, that you look at and just go, we come around to cut day, and those are the guys more often than not that get drafted, that you end up seeing them like, move on from them relatively fast.


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[Assistant] Sometimes even after that pre-season, it's like, alright, they dropped from sixth, seventh round, you know, they're going to go ahead and release it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's a core special teamer. I think he's backup or makes it kind of second, third safety. So, you know, I just.


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[Assistant] I wonder if he ever is like, man, this is awesome. The support I've gotten, but like.


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[Assistant] I just want to get back to football. I don't want to be known as like that guy. Like I'd want to make my legacy on the football field, not with what happened on the football field. So I, I always wondered that when like people become super famous for something, like at some point,


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[Assistant] Do they want to move on from that? Uhm, especially when it's like a kind of a scary event like that.


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[Assistant] That he ended up, like the 49ers moved on from him like this quick, given the small sample size he got to play. Were you surprised by the compensation that the 49ers got in exchange for trade lands?


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[Assistant] Or were you more surprised it was the Dallas Cowboys who were like the team that decided to trade? I'm just curious, which one of those three do you guys kind of say ding ding ding? It's that one.


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[Assistant] It wasn't like they hired John Lynch first. You know, that was facilitated through.


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[Assistant] Kyle Shanahan's relationship with John Lynch back from the time he was a ball boy with the Broncos.


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[Assistant] So, so, so I think that conversation kind of ends there in regards to like, who has the power. And, you know, from, from what I remember and recall when, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo first got there, it was, Kyle Shanahan wanted Jimmy Garoppolo to play. You know, John Lynch was under the impression that


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[Assistant] They could just go pay him because remember they were going into an offseason where they were going to have to make a decision on Jimmy Garoppolo.


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[Assistant] Right, but this is once the season happened though. Oh, okay.


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[Assistant] So, so my conversation with him was like, hey, I bought into him.


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[Assistant] And then he got there, but like they were like, we, we can't just like let him sit there and then figure things out in the off season. Like he wanted to see him. He wanted to play.


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[Assistant] And so at that point, you know, it was pretty evident that it was like, well, if Kyle wants him to play, he's going to play. He's got to showcase what he's capable of.


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[Assistant] So, you know, the rest has got history, obviously, because they signed the long-term contract after that.


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[Assistant] And you just gotta get the sense that the draft picked in and of itself.


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[Assistant] And that's why I've always said and will stand by the fact that I think they traded up to be able to give Green Bay what they're looking for in that draft. It wasn't for


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[Assistant] You know, San Francisco. And I think Green Bay pulled out of that deal. San Francisco got caught being in that position. And I think they all knew what was going on.


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[Assistant] So they, they, they did what they thought was best. Take the guy who might have the most upside.


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[Assistant] And they got Sam Darnold as a backup now with Brendan Allen being there. So they feel good with where they're at. And I think it probably has as much to do with the 49ers feeling like they can win a Super Bowl right now.


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[Assistant] And not wanting to be more patient with Trey Lance on the roster and saying like, we've got pretty, we feel good about him with his healthy. And if he's not there, we got a former, you know, first round pick high, first round pick at San Darno has got experience that's played really well for us. So it's not so much even an indictment on Trey Lance. It's just like, Hey man, we knew he was going to be a project. We just.


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[Assistant] We got too many studs, like we got Christian McCaffrey and Debo Samuel and Trump Williams and Nick Post and all these guys that's like.


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[Assistant] We've got to put ourselves in a position to win now and if we can get rid of some of his contract, not pick up the fifth year option or worry about anything else, like an extension.


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[Assistant] Work through Brock Purdy's rookie deal. Sam Donald's on an economical deal. We could build this roster with some of these stars around that quarterback position and that might give us the best chance to win a Super Bowl. So.


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[Assistant] Like as much as it could be about Trey Lance, it also can just be about the scenario that the 49ers are in right now, and they feel comfortable moving forward with what they have.


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[Assistant] I think he's just tired of it, honestly. You know, like, I think he's tired of it.


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[Assistant] I would say, I'd make the case this year, when you get paid and get the contract, like Dak Prescott did, and you're the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Every year is a big year for you. Like you've got to prove yourself every single year and justify


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[Assistant] What you're being compensated and I look at their con, I honestly look at his contract and say,


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[Assistant] Everyone is gonna like try to make this feel like, oh, it's about Trey Lance, you know, and, and leverage maybe for the Cowboys standpoint of things, depending on how things go.


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[Assistant] As Dak Prescott, like I remember when Trey was coming out, I was like, oh, he runs like Dak Prescott. Like that's exactly how Dak looked to me at Mississippi State. Like he had like those like high knees and he's just the kind of build he had and all that. And, and look like going back to like watching like tape, like this type of, you know, throws and some of the inconsistencies that you saw.


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[Assistant] It was probably why Dak got drafted in the fourth round. And it was, you know, when it was Trey Lance, somehow it evolved into like, look at all this upside. And you're like, well, hold on. He's not that really accurate all the time.


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[Assistant] My point is, I do think the Cowboys feel like they've got a great roster, and they do, and I think they feel like with this NFC, they've got a shot to make a run.