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[Assistant] I do think it's better, okay? It's still not great. I do think it's better than years past. Uhm, again, this Chiefs, who, the Chiefs defense is never gonna have like great statistics, because like I've told you, why, why? Did I tell you this? Why? You might have told me. Why the Chief, why, like, think about what the Chiefs defense has to deal with every week.


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[Assistant] Their own offense scores in three plays. Okay, so they're never like, hey, you guys rest. We'll do a bowl control drive here, right? Right. And everybody knows they're playing Patrick Mom's and the Chiefs. So they're like, unleash the vaults. We need every creative play we've ever had in our lives and we need to take chances that we would never take against anybody else.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, a tough spot that way because people throw everything in the kitchen sink at them when it comes to that kind of stuff. Uhm, yeaah. So, but this is, uh, one thing I could say about the Chiefs that I'd like to see them do. You know, Belichick, Patricia Ville, this is what they would do. At some point in a game like this, they gotta take away something.


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[Assistant] You can't just let teams run the ball down your throat.


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[Assistant] And Stafford throws for 20 yard throws every time he draws back to pass. One of those things has to be cancelled out. So my, my two cents of just watching them would be, I'm not, just get big up front.


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[Assistant] Get big up front, like, you know, I see the Detroit Lions because of Belichick, or Belichick, they play that bare front where they have a defense alignment over the center and the two guards. A lot through the game. And then they play pass coverage behind it, so they basically go, hey, we're gonna put big people here and make your run game tough, but then we can figure out some cool wrap combinations in the back.


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[Assistant] Inside, and let me just make sure I pull up the right names here, cause I'm gonna choke here. Okay, so I wanna see them put Derek Nondy, alright, their defensive tackle out of Florida State, 6'1", 310 pounds, right? I wanna see them put, uhm, number 98, Xavier Williams, at the other defensive tackle. Okay, 6'2", 309. I want Chris Jones at defense end.


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[Assistant] Okay, I want Chris Jones at defense end, which is a huge, gigantic human being at 66308 at defense end. Yeaah. And then you have Frank Clark at the other defense end. At the very least right there, I think they'll be able to go into games and go.


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[Assistant] You're gonna have a hard time running the ball on us. And then they can put some more eggs in to stop the pass game basket that way. I just, they gotta figure out something. You're right, I mean, you're right. I mean, I don't know if I'm right, but that's just the things I will say.


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[Assistant] And then adjust off of that to whatever the team has to do. But you can't just let go, oh, we're gonna play sound defense, but really never take anything away.


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[Assistant] I wanna s- mmm, Aaron Rodgers? Nope. Nope. Nope. Hell.


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[Assistant] Haskins is gonna take some time. And, uh, I guess I would, you know, and there's all these rumors about Jay Gruden out there. First of all, none of these issues that the Washington Mets have are Jay Gruden's fault. I would just like to say that. And, I think, if they're thinking about firing Dwayne, I mean, uh, Jay Gruden right now, I think that's a mistake.


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[Assistant] Whether they want to fire him or not, that's fine. I'm not gonna like argue that. I get it. At some point like it's just over and you gotta go on with it. Again, I'll argue that Jay Gruden's not the issue. Not number of the number one issue, the number two issue. He's not in the top five issues with the Washington Redskins. There's a lot of other issues on that team. And again, he's not the GM. And he didn't put this team there.


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[Assistant] I would say this for the Washington Redskins. I wouldn't fire Jay Gruden right now. I wouldn't. First of all, what's firing going to do? You're going to go, oh, we're better, we're going to the Super Bowl now. You know, Bill Gallaghan, Bill Callahan or Greg Monoski, your head coach. No, you're not going anywhere.


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[Assistant] Exactly right. The best thing for Dwayne Haskins I think is to keep Jay Gruden there. That's a good point. Jay Gruden's the smartest quarterback guy they got there. Let him be there and develop the kid. You know, and if you want to fire him, you fire him after the year and that's go. But I think if you want to get Dwayne Haskins going, which it looks like they're going to do here soon,


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[Assistant] Uhm, Jay Gruden's the right guy there to, to kinda tutor him and bring him along. I will say this also, if they knew Case Keenum, okay, might be on a short leash this week and have the foot injury, I wish they would have just named Dwayne Hassen as a starter on Wednesday.


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[Assistant] Instead of like, he probably didn't get a ton of reps with the first team, and then you throw him into a tough situation in New York, with a defense that does some different creative stuff, just not fair to him, let alone Terry McCormick not being there, and their run game is nothing special, and I mean it was just, it's just.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he didn't look, he didn't look great. No. No, and Jones made some mistakes too. Jones made some great throws. Rookie quarterback. And again, he can move.


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[Assistant] Uh, and the best thing I like about the Giants, and you want to see Daniel Jones and what he's doing, I mean 8 for 13 on third down. I mean when you start to see that, that's quarterback down. Third down in the NFL is quarterback down. And when you're moving the chains, it's usually you're making great throws, really good decisions, or you're scrambling for a first down every now and then. And Daniel Jones is doing all three of those. Seahawks,


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[Assistant] No, the offense doesn't design it for that either. Even the big shots he has hit through the first, you know, three games.


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[Assistant] They were just like one on one great throws. It wasn't like the offense designed to play like, oh, I was in the lab all week and here's a great way to throw a 50 yard post down the middle. No, none of that is there.


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[Assistant] None of that. They just run offensive plays. It's an underwhelming offense. My headline would be Seattle was pissed off and they were gonna make a point. Yep. Okay? And they realized that they got the Rams coming up and they gotta keep pacing the NFC West and they, you know, messed up a game against the New Orleans Saints last week.


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[Assistant] And, you know, the original Kyler Murray, aka Russell Wilson, uh, he showed everybody, like, hey, I'm still the man. Kyler, like, he's cool, he's the number one pick and all, but he would never have been the number one pick unless I've done what I've done first. Quit trying to copy me. I'm the original short guy that can throw it.


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[Assistant] Right, got the run game going, but the Cardinals are not a very talented team.


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[Assistant] Cliff Kingsbury is still trying to find his way of his creativity inventory and Kyler Murray doesn't have a lot of help around him.


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[Assistant] Well, listen, I don't like that whole conversation either, okay? I mean, Kyle Allen's done a really good job. There's no doubt about that.


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[Assistant] And I've heard the stat, oh, you know, the last 11 games, Kyle Allen's got the only two wins for the Carolina Panthers. Okay, well, yeah. I mean, Cam Newton played with a torn labrum last year at the end of the year. Right. Okay.


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, football's important to him. So, like, we can't have it both ways with some of these superstars sometimes. Sometimes we're like...


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[Assistant] Oh, I want them to care more. And then when they care too much, we go, he's too selfish. He should have told the team he was hurt and he couldn't do it. It's like a no-win situation. So I don't like that. But nonetheless, Kyle Allen is


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[Assistant] Doing the proper things. Does have the fumbling issue. He's gotta work on that. They need to put in some drills to give him some awareness in the pockets. But either way, when plays are there to be had, he's making the nice, accurate throws and doing those special things. And Carolina's D is real.


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[Assistant] I mean, they're good. It's a really good defense in Carolina. And we're seeing that. And, you know, again, yeah, I mean, Cam Newton messed up the first two games. There's no denying that. Uhm, and I still don't know about the Houston Texans. I don't know what to think about that.


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[Assistant] I like that. That's too cliche. But I will s- if Cam Newton gets back, 100% healthy, alright?


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[Assistant] They're still the most dangerous with, I mean, I know we all want to talk about, you know, the quarterbacks and, and, oh, the quarterback, the quarterback, the quarterback. Yeah. Well, I mean, hey, they stayed patient with the run game. Christian McCaffrey had 10 receptions for 86 yards. 37 touches for Christian McCaffrey that was


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[Assistant] Right, so they're, so they're, you know, they're playing just a complete team football game and playing smart defense and that's really the point.


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[Assistant] Why my clothes are clean? Cause it's Tide, foo. Okay, it's the beginning of the season and Tide is making sure no one misses football on Sundays.


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[Assistant] Starring Peyton Manning, the greatest acting quarterback in the history of football. Also in the conversation for being one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. But he's surely a great actor too, okay? He really is. I laugh at all his crap, alright? Starring Peyton Manning, this new campaign pits NBC's biggest stars and lineup.


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[Assistant] Of fan favorite shows against one another in the ultimate.


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[Assistant] Battle! The ultimate battle! Yes! Debating which night of the week is the best to do laundry. What's your night? Okay. What's the best night for you to do laundry?


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[Assistant] I'm not doing the laundry regardless, okay? But if I was, it would be Tuesday or Wednesday, okay? That would be the week I would do it, there's no football on, and I can't be bothered with laundry, and I'm not doing the laundry anyways, okay? But all month long throughout NBC programming, check out why Manning and the league officially declare a new meaning for the NFL. That new meaning is,


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[Assistant] Not for laundry! Ba ba ba! Bam! But I know Peyton's gonna be silly with that cause he's silly. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Alright. Damn.


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[Assistant] Just hit me. I've been trying to figure out what my, that little mashup is, right? Yeah. Okay.


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[Assistant] Cause I'm B-Rabbit. I'm not really B-Rabbit. I like Eminem, but I'm not that big of a fan. But there's a song called Stan.


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[Assistant] Damn, okay. There you go, Leonard Fournette. There you go, silencing the haters of the world. I mean, people blame Leonard Fournette. Like, last Thursday night in the football game against the Titans where


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[Assistant] There's nowhere to run. They could have put seven, uh, you know, Jim Browns and Barry Sanders on the field and they weren't going to run anywhere. But people go, what's wrong with Leonard Fournette? I'll tell you what's wrong with Leonard Fournette.


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[Assistant] Nobody's scared of the Jacksonville Jaguars passing game, okay? And people crowd the line in a scrimmage, and their own line's been a little banged up and not run blocking that well, and that's why it hasn't been great, but yesterday was like,


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[Assistant] It was a little bit better than damn okay. I mean, he was like a freight train running down the field. I mean, his size and physicality and explosion.


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[Assistant] Well, 140-something yards, right? It was a phenomenal day. I'm sick of the haters on Leonard Fornette a little bit, okay? I really am. And I watched highlight shows last night, Amin. And this is what really pisses me off. I watch highlight shows. I'm watching the Jags Broncos highlights.


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[Assistant] Not one highlight of the best player in the game. Was it all Gardener? Of course!


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[Assistant] Stop giving all the credit to the damn quarterback all the time.


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[Assistant] Holy crap. I mean, they were 4 for 14 on third down. I mean, I think now for the year, he's 9 for 38 on third downs. And we're about to crown him like he's the greatest thing we've ever seen. He's doing a good job. Just like Kyle Allen. He's taking there what's there to be had. They're running the ball. They're playing defense.


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[Assistant] So that's what we're like not that great about. That's alright. He's a hell of a nickel, nickel back over that defense. Like that's what he does. He's good in coverage. He's good at running the ball. I mean, if he gets his hand on the ball, he's very capable of intercepting passes, but. So there we go. I'm with you. All the way there. I mean, to piggyback off that game.


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[Assistant] I already talked about this guy a little bit, but I'll bring him up again just because he was my old coach, John Gruden. Damn, okay.


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[Assistant] Team played hard yesterday after a horrible loss, you know, to the Minnesota Vikings. They've kind of got their butt beat the last two weeks.


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[Assistant] Uh, lost that home to the Kansas City Chiefs, got their butt beat on the road in Minnesota, on the road again in Indianapolis, and I'm thinking, man, they're gonna get run over by this Coltsville line and things. Nope.


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[Assistant] John Gruden came up with the right gameplay and got his offense on the right foot. Deserves a lot of credit. Really, it was him that jumpstarted the victory through his play calling and play design.


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[Assistant] Look at pictures. As if you haven't talked enough already. That's okay, it's just so great to talk to you. I'll take as many hours as I can. Oh, and Johnald McDonald, just to give you guys an update, he took off his four layered flannel jacket.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's, it's 76 now, and he's figured, ah, it's a little warm for the final jacket. So now it's around his shoulder. Kept it on for most of the podcast. Got a Giants hat on. But that's it, we're done. I haven't had enough for today, okay?


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[Assistant] Chris Sims on button. Hope everybody enjoyed. We'll be doing deep dives on Wednesday. I don't know. I'm gonna try to deep dive four games and we'll hit on a number of other things going on around the NFL. You the man, Ahmed. Are you coming in on Wednesday? I will not be here. No, what an asshole. He won't be here Wednesday, but I'll be here.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's what I do. And watch me, uh, me and Ahmet when we look at pictures and we make silly comments. It's really funny. I like what Ahmet does. He picks some good ones. Alright everybody, peace. Have a good one. Uh, talk to you Wednesday.


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[Assistant] 11 of the 15 road teams won their games straight up. So, right. And underdogs were 10 and 5 against the spread. But I felt bad about my 7 and 8 until I saw your 4 and 11. I mean, you are basically in do the opposite territory if you're going 4 and 11, where you make your picks and then when you're done, you just flip


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[Assistant] All of them, and you'll be far better off. I mean, think about it, you would have been 11 in 4 last week if you'd have done the George Costanza chicken salad on rye and a cup of tea.


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[Assistant] Is. Don't. Look, I know we're supposed to encourage this kind of behavior because it drives interest in everything we have to offer, and it doesn't matter. It's not like anyone's gonna listen to me anyway. If you're betting, you're still gonna bet.


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[Assistant] But generally, don't bet. And if you are gonna bet, make sure you're not betting the money that you're gonna use to like, pay your kids tuition, or pay your electric bill.


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[Assistant] You know what would have been the best bet of the week? That you weren't going to be on time today. I would have bet the chateau on that and I should have if I could have found somebody to take the action but no bookmaker in the world would have touched that one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and Pete Carroll, the coach of the Seahawks, is 17 and 2 at home in primetime games during his time with the team.


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[Assistant] Seven and one I believe on Thursdays at home during, or maybe Thursdays anywhere during his time with the Seahawks. And here's the big factor for me.


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[Assistant] Consider what the Rams had to do on Sunday. Consider that they fell into a 21 point hole and they were busting their asses for the entire game to try to reclaim the lead and it was a hard fought game with 98 offensive snaps.


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[Assistant] And they have to turn it around, pack it up and come to Seattle with only three days to recover from what they went through on Sunday. For the Seahawks, it was a fairly easy game at Arizona.


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[Assistant] And I think that is something that contributes to the feeling I already had. Look, the Rams have won the last two games against the Seahawks in Seattle. That's not getting to three. You're not getting to a three game winning streak against Seattle Seahawks, especially in prime time.


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[Assistant] Against Pete Carroll, Russell Wilson, they're wearing their highlighter uniforms tonight, which will blind the Rams. I, I just, I think the Seahawks will win this game.


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[Assistant] By at least a field goal. I see a one and a half point spread. I'm sorry, I think the Seahawks are gonna win this one.


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[Assistant] And it's going to be at least by three. I don't think it's going to be a close game down to the razor wire one or two point margin. I like Seattle in this when this just feels like one of those nights where Seattle is going to inject itself into the conversation of best teams in the NFC.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I got 2721, Seahawk, so we're on the same page with that one, which means if we're wrong, at least we'll be equally wrong. We'll be wrong together. Okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and, and here's what I like here. It's not about the quarterbacks, it's about the running backs. Leonard Frenette, the fourth overall pick in the 2017 draft, and Christian McCaffrey, the eighth overall pick that same year. McCaffrey, the NFC's offensive player of the month for September. Gardner, the Ginsu Minshu though, the NFL's offensive rookie of the month.


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[Assistant] For September, but I think it comes down to those running backs. Leonard Fernet's gonna have to do something close to what he did.


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[Assistant] Just a few days ago, in order to get the Jaguars over the top in Carolina, I think the Panthers are tough to beat at home.


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[Assistant] And look, they've got a healthy quarterback now, and even though Kyle Allen isn't as good as Cam Newton, a healthy Kyle Allen is better than an injured Cam Newton who was grossly inaccurate, especially in that week two loss to the Buccaneers the last time the Panthers played at home. They're 0-2 at home this year.


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[Assistant] Allen has never started a home game. He's got three wins and three starts all on the road for the Carolina Panthers. This one to me is going to be close.


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[Assistant] I like it 24-20 Carolina, which means I like Carolina both straight up and against the spread, but not by very much. I don't have a lot of confidence in this one, but I think the Panthers find a way to win it because of McCaffrey. I expect him to be more likely to have a big game. And I also expect the Carolina defense to play well at home.


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[Assistant] You really like threading the needle, taking the favorite straight up, but then picking the, uh, the underdog to cover.


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[Assistant] And every other week this year you've put no time or thought into it whatsoever.


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[Assistant] I wanted to take the Buccaneers to beat the Rams last week. I was ready to take the Buccaneers to beat the Rams, and then I looked and I saw that in 2017 Sean McVeigh's first year with the Rams, and Bruce Aron's last year with the Cardinals, the Rams swept the Cardinals, so I thought,


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[Assistant] Either directly or through osmosis about the NFL because you and I are both locked in it almost all the time, although you do the little detour for college football six times a year.


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[Assistant] I just feel like I need to trust my gut because one way or another, the best barometer for what I think is going to happen in a given game is the result of everything that filters into my brain over the course of every day of the year. So, and even then it's impossible to do a good job.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and look, I feel the same way. The Bengals have had a couple of good games this year that they lost at Seattle, at Buffalo. They kind of got blown off the field by the 49ers and by the Steelers. I just feel like the Bengals weren't ready to match the intensity of the Steelers on Monday Night Football. And the Cardinals, I just feel like,


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[Assistant] It's not working. No. And they have to prove to me that it's gonna work before I can rely on them to actually win a game, so.


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[Assistant] This one is just gut feel. The Bengals are more due to win than the Cardinals are due to win. And frankly, the Bengals don't have a lot of opportunities to win games this year. If they're gonna win any, they gotta beat these teams like the Cardinals. Now they will get opportunities at other bad teams, but this may be one of the worst teams they play. And if they can't get this win, then they're ultimately gonna have like 500 people showing up for their games.


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[Assistant] I think if we had had any of the Cardinals games except for week one in prime time and were able to watch it closely, you may feel the same way about them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, yes. The Bengals, and I think that's why the line is only Bengals minus three for this one. I think it would be Bengals minus seven.


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[Assistant] Monday night's game wasn't in prime time and we all didn't get to see how pathetic they look, but, but they can flip it around because they were competitive against the Bills. They were competitive against the Seahawks and I think that counts for something given that both of those teams are three in one.


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[Assistant] The Falcons have a collection of high-priced players, but they aren't playing together like a team, whether it's Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, whatever the case may be.


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[Assistant] The Falcons just feel like they are inching closer and closer toward Arthur Blank pressing the reset button and the question becomes will Dan Quinn make it to the end of the season or will he be let go during the season and if they don't turn it around quickly I think he will be let go during the season. The problem is Bill O'Brien may be in a similar kind of a mindset here where


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[Assistant] Two and two and maybe they should have lost or definitely should have lost to the Jaguars, but for the unavailability of a camera angle that would have shown Leonard Fernet crossing the plane of the goal line with the football for the two point conversion that would have beaten the Texans. I think there's a more realistic sense that the


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[Assistant] Texans have a chance, and they're at home, and if Deshaun Watson can get rid of the football a little faster, and, you know, Deandre Hopkins hasn't done all that much this year, maybe he can step up and have a bigger game, I feel like the Texans should win this game, I feel like they will win this game, just because


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[Assistant] So what you're saying is, uh, threading the needle again. You got the Texans straight up and the Falcons covering.


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[Assistant] Okay, alright, that's all we need to say about that game. You know, there's some good games this weekend, and there's some not good games, and we just talked about two not good games in a row.


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[Assistant] That is a push, and I am not gonna go push. I'm gonna go Saints2720, and, and, and look, I,


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[Assistant] I could have gone either way on this one, and I thought, based upon how the Buccaneers played last week, maybe they do go into the Superdome and win again. Remember last year it was week one, Ryan Fitzpatrick was total Fitzmagic, hitting Deshaun Jackson and stunning the Saints.


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[Assistant] But I think the Saints are finding their groove with Teddy Bridgewater. I think it stays close because


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[Assistant] Of the, the Buccaneers defense. They may not have Shaq Barrett. He didn't practice on Wednesday with a groin injury. He was listed with a groin injury a couple of weeks ago. Wasn't on the injury report last week, so that's something to watch. But even then,


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[Assistant] You know, the Saints offensive line did allow Teddy Bridgewater to get banged around a little bit, but I still like what the Saints will be able.


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[Assistant] I think that people underrate Teddy Bridgewater and maybe they don't expect him to be as good as he ultimately is. The Sean Payton factor has been overlooked in all of this. He's coached the team very well in two weeks without Drew Brees. And that Drew Brees thumb is healing faster than we ever thought because as they keep racking up wins without him,


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[Assistant] We continue to wonder about a future without him in New Orleans. Maybe the future won't be so bleak as we thought it might have been. So I think the Saints win this one 27-20. The home team gets the edge here, even though that kinda goes out the window in the NFC South.


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[Assistant] I still like the Saints. No E to W for Jameis Winston in the Superdome this time. Saints win and they move to four and one, which is incredible when you consider it'll be three games without Breeze.


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[Assistant] I feel like I felt two weeks ago going into the Raiders game that this is a game the Vikings should win. I've got the Vikings 23 to 13, but if it's close, they'll lose it straight up.


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[Assistant] And my fear is that Kirk Cousins is gonna be so caught up in his thoughts about how he should play and...


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[Assistant] Processing the reeds and getting the ball to Adam Thielen or he's gonna call him out again and then cousin's gonna have to apologize to him or Stefan Diggs who seems to be salty and that trade talk has really started to bubble up even though the Vikings say they have no plans to trade him.


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[Assistant] Reportedly. Of course it was six years ago that they had no intent to trade Percy Harvin, and then they did. I just feel like this is a game where the Vikings will be able to run.


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[Assistant] The Adam Thieling critique from Sunday was when we can't gain 180 yards rushing, we need to be able to throw. This is going to be one of those days where they can gain 180 yards rushing and they don't have to worry about Kirk Cousins. So despite Cousins, they win 23 to 13 because I am betting on Dalvin Cook


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[Assistant] Or Alexander Madison being able to run the football against the New York Giants.


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[Assistant] And let me just echo that point you made at the end. Pat Shermer knows the Zimmer defense, which is not really scheme based.


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[Assistant] When you rely on 11 great athletes doing the same thing all the time, there are holes in that. And teams can find them and exploit them. And that's my concern, that Pat Shermer is going to be able to do it. And again, if it's close, the Giants are going to win.


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[Assistant] Uh, so you're trying to thread the needle again. I would encourage you, if you think it's gonna be a three point game, pick the Giants to win. But I think that, that, uh, just raw, brute force of the running game will be enough to deliver the victory for Minnesota.


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[Assistant] That is really bad. I'm glad you're not doing that on a regular show because you would offend all of our viewers on Sky Sports in the UK and in Ireland. That's horrible.


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[Assistant] Yeah, look, the Chicago Bears have shown us that they are an elite team and that they are a force to be reckoned with in the NFC because of their defense. I'm not worried about.


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[Assistant] Chase Daniel playing quarterback in place of Mitchell Trubisky. And look, the Raiders!


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[Assistant] To break Derek Carr. And they will break Derek Carr early. And I've got 24-10 as the final score of this one. And I think that may even be more charitable for the Raiders than I should be. It may be 24-7 or 24-3. But I'll go 24-10, Bears over the Raiders.


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[Assistant] I feel like 10 points is too much for the Raiders. I may have to revise it to 24-7. I'm gonna go 24-7. You're gonna go 24-7? Yeah, not that it really matters to anyone but me, but 24-7. Yep, okay. Alright, cool.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, we don't know whether or not Sam Donald's gonna play. He's pushing to play. I'll be surprised if he does. And I don't think it's really going to matter. The Eagles at 2-2. They could be 4-0. They lost a close one in Atlanta. They lost a close one at home.


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[Assistant] With a lot of confidence. You know, a win like that in a big spot, prime time, Lambeau field, send the Packers from 3-0 to 3-1. That's one of those games where you start to get your swagger. You start to get into your groove. And the Jets, they got plenty of confidence, but it borders on delusion.


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[Assistant] They've yet to show us that they can do anything other than build a lead that they blew against the Bills. I think this is Eagles 27 to 14 and I picked that score without knowing that the spread is 13 and a half. So I guess I'm picking the Jets to cover by a hair. You know what? Just to be safe, I'm going to make a 28-14 because I don't have enough faith in the Jets to cover.


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[Assistant] But here's the thing, here's the thing, the guy's had mono for like three weeks. I know.


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[Assistant] And it's one thing to say he's healthy enough to practice, and he's healthy enough to do this, and he's healthy enough to do that.


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[Assistant] But it's a higher level of intensity. It is. Isn't it? Yes. When you're in a game and you have to get like completely locked in and focused, and you have to be really, really sharp. And, and he may realize that even though he feels good under normal conditions, you throw him into that meat grinder and he's not gonna feel as good.


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[Assistant] Let me lead it off. Let me lead it off. I'm gonna echo exactly what I said on the show yesterday about Lamar Jackson facing the Steelers defense. He has yet to face the Steelers defense. And the Steelers defense is still founded on a degree of physicality that few teams can match. And Mike Tomlin will have those guys ready to pound the crap.


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[Assistant] And what they did with RG3, and Ryan Clark has since said this is what the game plan was. Beat the crap out of RG3. So anytime they have a legitimate shot at Lamar Jackson, they're gonna take it. And look, I know that he's extremely agile, he's hard to catch.


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[Assistant] But I think the Steelers defense is good enough that somebody is going to give him the kind of shot that makes him think twice about running.


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[Assistant] Turns him one dimensional, forces him to pass the football, and that's when the Steelers can slow them down. And I see a three and a half point spread here. Look, if the Ravens win this game, they're not winning by more than a field goal.


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[Assistant] I see like 16-14, 16-13 if the Ravens win. I agree with that. I like the Steelers to win by a field goal, 17-14. Wow. And, and if the Browns stumble on Monday night, you're gonna have Steelers, Browns, Ravens all at 2-3 at the top of the AFC North, with the Bengals possibly at 1-4 saying, hey, we're not out of it. Wow.


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[Assistant] Well, if that's your attitude, let's just keep going. That's it. Yeah. Knocking down the fourth wall. Yeah. And, uh, Adam Thielen, uh, joining me today on the joint PFTPM Chris Sims on Button podcast. All right.


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[Assistant] This is one of those games that will either prove or disprove my theory about the Tennessee Titans. And so far this year, my theory about the Tennessee Titans has been proven.


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[Assistant] You know, I'd have even more faith in the Bills if they had Josh Allen. I know that this is the Matt Barkley show, but still, I just, this is just, this is the game the Titans are supposed to win, and this is the game they lose, and we'll see if that trend continues.


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[Assistant] I have them easily covering the spread, 38 to 17. I think the only reason the spread isn't bigger is because the Patriots struggled with the Bills last week.


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[Assistant] The bills are not Washington. Washington is in disarray and this may be the dagger game for Jay Gruden. He's in that territory where any given week may be his last week. It just depends upon what Daniel Snyder and or Bruce Allen decide to do about putting


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[Assistant] And at 38-17, I think 17 is too much for Washington, but I'll stick 38-17.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like the Chargers in this one. I know that they are the kings of the close games. This should not be a close game. The Broncos are in the process of falling apart, although they could have won two of their home games. I just think...


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[Assistant] Once you break a team's spirit, it just makes it so hard to get it together and go on the road and try to pull off a victory. I mean, they're not gonna go 0-16, but they are gonna have a losing record. And the Chargers at 2-2, they could go either way. This is the kind of game they have to win if they have any aspiration to get back.


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[Assistant] I don't think the Cowboys in this one, I'll get right to it. The Devontae Adams injury has me concerned. I don't know that Aaron Rodgers will be able to move the offense effectively without Adams there, either to catch footballs or draw attention away from the other guys. I don't think the other guys, Marques Valdez-Gantling, Geronimo Allison, Jimmy Graham, Ed Aile, I don't think they're gonna be good enough.


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[Assistant] To match what the Cowboys are gonna do. And the Cowboys are gonna be extra salty after last Sunday night when they lost a game that maybe they could have won, should have won in New Orleans. And the Cowboys want to keep some separation from the Eagles who are


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[Assistant] Not all that far behind now, how quickly it changes in one week, where you feel like you've got a team down and out. They beat the Packers in a big spot and then you lose to the Saints in a big spot. The pressure's on you now to beat the Packers. So if the Eagles can beat the Packers at Lambeau Field, the Cowboys have to be thinking, we have to take care of these guys.


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[Assistant] At home, and I think the Cowboys will. I think it will be close. It's a three and a half point spread. I got Cowboys 28 to 23, so I'm picking them to cover reluctantly. It could be 28, 27, 27, 24, but I'm going 28, 23. Cowboys cover by a little bit, but more importantly, Cowboys win.


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[Assistant] Just like that Jared Cook throw in the playoffs a couple of years ago that won the game, but I don't think the Packers are as good now relative to the Cowboys as they were then. So we're on the same page about that one, the game of the afternoon, but then the game of the night, the Sunday Night Football Contest, the one that looked like it was going to


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[Assistant] Right. To something that we really didn't want after Andrew Luck retired, but then Jacoby Brissette has played well in this rematch of the divisional playoff game, Chris.


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[Assistant] It's looking pretty intriguing to me and I'll start it off. I still like the Chiefs. The Chiefs I think are unstoppable. I've got it 35 to 20.


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[Assistant] I just, you know, I'm down on the Colts after what happened last week. It's funny how when you put a ton of faith in a team and they lose, you get pissed off at them. But I'm kinda pissed off at the Colts this week because that was one of those, you know, there's a certain number of games that


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[Assistant] You, you are worried about, and you really don't know, and you, you go back and forth, and then there's that handful of games that you think every week, these are easy. The Colts were in the this is easy last week, and they blew it, so I'm kinda pissed at them now, so that makes me even more likely to take the Chiefs, 35-20.


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[Assistant] Well that's funny because this was the one that I struggled with and I really don't have a strong feeling one way or the other. So I did something I've never done before when it comes to picking games. I abdicated.


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[Assistant] For whatever reason, the Browns, based on where they are in their current development, look, I just feel like when they play at home, they feel a greater degree of pressure and I think that's real. I think they feel less pressure when they play on the road.


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[Assistant] Well, but, but, you know, and I could see it go either way, and that's why, look, my gut feeling in that spot was to trust my kid and say, what do you think, and his knee-jerk reaction was browns, and I can see it. I started thinking about it and I can see it.


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[Assistant] And then the Browns will go home and they'll lose to somebody they should beat. I mean, that, that, that may be the story. It may be that, that the Browns are basically the Titans this year. Well, they'll win the games they're supposed to lose and they'll lose the games they're supposed to win. Uh, the only problem is for the Browns is more games they're supposed to win.


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[Assistant] My first one, the New England Patriots only giving 15 to Washington. Again, as I said earlier, I think the spread is influenced by the fact that the Patriots struggled offensively last week. Washington is a bad, bad team as evidenced by the fact that a bad team manhandled them last week. So I like the Patriots in a blowout, easily covering the spread.


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[Assistant] I just don't think it's gonna be a close game. I don't think it's gonna be a 22-21 type of a game. And I think the Seahawks are gonna win the game for all the reasons we discussed earlier. They're great at home on Thursday nights. They're great at home in prime time.


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[Assistant] With Pete Carroll as the head coach, the Raider or the Rams, excuse me, the Rams had a long, tough, difficult game last weekend against the Buccaneers that took a lot out of them physically and it's a short week to recover.


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[Assistant] And covering the spread, although we only have to cover the spread to be right on this one. It's what, three, three and a half points, something like that? If, if the Ravens win, they're not gonna win by more than three points. So...


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[Assistant] I like the Steelers to win outright. This is a simple one to me. And you know, like you, I don't look at the lines until it's time to do this. I pick the Steelers to win. I see the Steelers are the underdogs. I feel strongly enough about the Steelers to win to say that's one of the best bets, especially since they're getting three and a half points.


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[Assistant] We shall see. Well, I recall somebody last week saying I was the mayor of Krazyville for thinking the Giants were gonna beat Washington. Yeah, you're right.


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[Assistant] And I'll tell you what, if you go 4-11 again this week after putting thought and time into it, maybe it's time to not pick games anymore. Or, as I said earlier, do the opposite.


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[Assistant] Football. Football's back. Football. I mean, like, we say we're back and, like, you haven't been necessarily here at this desk, but you've been everywhere. I like traveling. Well, not everywhere.


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[Assistant] Like, it's okay. I mean, just Pittsburgh and Cleveland. Yeah. Okay, just two. Talk to Odell, talk to Ben Roethlisberger. Yes. Trapped Peter King in a car. You know it.


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[Assistant] You've been busy, like that's what I worry about you is like you've been so busy this offseason that I hope that you've gotten enough rest. That I don't burn out this year? We have football now, so we have week one of the preseason to talk about and then it just keeps rolling from there. Like I hope that you took the offseason


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[Assistant] Uh, talked about was that it wasn't just the cryotherapy and the feet. That was almost maybe


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[Assistant] I believe it said, I've, I've seen some comments of the same thing. He's like, I wouldn't have gotten a new helmet, but maybe this is why it's good, is that they're forcing you to be in the safest possible. Of course it is. Today, not a safe helmet, no helmet can be 100% safe, but the technology is hopefully getting better, and so this is a newer helmet.


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[Assistant] Part of me is like, you know what? Here's Antonio Brown. He's had the same piece of equipment his whole career. He's had a Hall of Fame career. Yeaah. It's a little jarring, right? No, I get that. If you're told and you feel like your vision's not quite as good in a different helmet or just something is a little off. Right, right. Like, man, I'm super comfortable in what I've had before. How much safer can it be? I want, I want what I've had my whole Hall of Fame career up to this point. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I think there's a bigger problem going on here with Antonio Brown. It's probably not


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[Assistant] helmet. There's something going on. There's something going on, you know, and we don't want to be pop psychologist with Antonio Brown, but clearly he's disgruntled. He's been disgruntled, unhappy for a while. Trade, big life change, new team. Now he's got this helmet issue. It almost seems indicative of a bigger problem.


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[Assistant] So you wonder how much communication John Gruden has directly with Antonio Brown or how much of it is going maybe through the media at this point? Because John Gruden did talk, he did talk on Antonio Brown when he was asked about it here this past weekend and here are the comments from John Gruden about Antonio Brown.


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[Assistant] Were you, were you smarting at the frostbite injury? Were you smarting at that? I was, I mean, were you one of the ones smarting? That right there is, uhm,


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[Assistant] But, and it's a weird spot for him to be put in because you know, John Gruden


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[Assistant] But here it's almost like you gotta, you gotta bend back a little backwards and John Gruden is doing it. Yeaah. To accommodate Antonio because he means so much to that offense right now and you've given up a third round and a fifth round. Right. And a lot of money. Right, exactly. And so for, for John Gruden, and you know John Gruden, it's such a weird spot for him to be in. Yeaah. Maybe a spot that, you know, he's,


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[Assistant] Not gonna love. He's not gonna love having to tiptoe the line around Antonio.


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[Assistant] Uh, the fact that he did cryotherapy. The fact that he got frostbite from cryotherapy. That's the third one. Uh, the fourth is the fact that he wants to wear a 10 year old helmet.


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[Assistant] And the fifth one is that he, uh, the fact that he checks his bank account and Instagram likes during meetings. So of the least crazy to the most crazy part of the story.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I might do that number one. Until you left the facility that day, it was like, I'm not coming back! So we're gonna put this on our, uh, on a poll. NDCsports.com slash Twitter.


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[Assistant] Uh, if you're listening to this and the vote is still open, uh, go out there and, uh, and give a vote to see which is the craziest part of the Antonio Brown story, which all are crazy, but I would have gone number five least crazy than checking the, uh,


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[Assistant] And for sure, Football Morning in America by Peter King. I mean, come on, it's a staple. I was reading it again today. I mean, there's just so much good information. Yeah. Like, how long does it take him to write that? It's gotta be an all week thing for him. It seems like it. Because there's so many good little nuggets in there that don't, they don't all get big. You know, you think like, oh, I've probably heard most of this.


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[Assistant] You go through it and you're like, wow, I never heard that anywhere else. I never heard that anywhere else. And it's all in Peter King's column that you traveled with. And what's it like with Peter King? What's one story, maybe one thing we didn't know about Peter King that you learned from?


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[Assistant] We locked ourselves in a room this whole, uh, off season to come up with that. And then what you, I think you did at the end of it, you go, hey, what about film review? Film review. You know what?


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[Assistant] Film review is better. 10 people in a room is like Chris, good one. Yeaah. Uhm, so here's film review. We're gonna go through, we'll go through some quick hitters here in a little bit, cause I wanna get your opinion on a lot of the rookies that we saw out there at different positions. Yep.


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[Assistant] But, uh, can I start with the quarterbacks? Of course you can. And I want to start with the number one pick in Kyler Murray over there with the Cardinals. Uh, so you've looked at film on all these guys, right? All of them, right. So you've got good opinions as you always do. Let me just give everyone out there in case you missed what he did in his first preseason game.


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[Assistant] He wanted to take the team on the scoring drive. He was very vocal, uh, to Cliff, uh, Kingsbury and the coaching staff that keep me in. I want to go another series, try to orchestrate a scoring drive. They did not allow that to happen yet. So he wanted to stay on the field, but when he was out there, numbers looked pretty good. How did, how did the


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[Assistant] And the fact that he goes into an offense that he's familiar with, more familiar than his teammates are, because it's an offense that was similar to what he ran. Huge advantage. You think that there's a better chance that he can get off to a good start and have a better rookie year because of one, the skill set that he has. Yes, right. And two, the offense. I mean, are we looking at...


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[Assistant] You would not be shocked if he threw up one of the top ten quarterback rookie seasons of all time.


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[Assistant] But, he's not the worst quarterback ever taken in the first round of the NFL. He was 5 for 5 in his first game, 67 yards. A touchdown, his only series ended with a 12 yard touchdown pass to Benny Fowler. I know you don't care about the number, so what'd you see on the phone?


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[Assistant] And I almost wonder in a way if that whole idea of him being overdrafted and not worthy of the number 6 pick.


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[Assistant] In a weird way, it's not fun while you're going through it, but it takes some of the pressure off. Because...


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[Assistant] After what you saw in week one of the pre-season, still, you know, caveats. Yeah, yeah. Do you feel like the chorus of We Wanna See Daniel Jones on the field will grow with Eli Manning?


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[Assistant] Uh, Jay Gruden has said that Case Keenum and Colt McCoy are a little bit ahead of him so far. He was 8 of 14. He got to play quite a bit, Dwayne Haskell. Yes, he did. 8 of 14, 117 yards.


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[Assistant] A quarterback out of Missouri that you were very high on, higher than most people on going into the draft, ended up going to the Denver Broncos, played a ton, threw the ball 28 times in his first preseason game, 17 to 28, 180 yards, one touchdown, one interception against Seattle who was playing Paxton Lynch, it was like,


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[Assistant] So those were the higher drafted quarterbacks, drew lock falling to the second round. Um, but what about, yeah, we got to talk about this one. Jarrett's did him. Yes. Um, the future Tom Brady replacement. Well, I mean, what they buy his $39 million home in the Massachusetts, Boston area. And I don't know how he is. So Tom Brady is selling his


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[Assistant] Oh, and he is 23 years old. Yea, a little older, right? A better chance that he was going to hit the ground running. Yes. His first preseason in the NFL.


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[Assistant] I want to wrap it up with a non-rookie quarterback. Was a rookie last year. New team though, Josh Rosen. Right? Yeaah. 13-20, 191 yards. One interception was sacked twice. Did direct three scoring drives of 60 yards or more. Yeaah. Team scored with him under center. Yeaah. The way you said yeaah there makes me feel like you're about to be like, yeaah, he was fine.


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[Assistant] Because Ryan Fitzpatrick is the starter. He played just a little bit, 20 yards. And Ryan Fitzpatrick as a starter is very, you can beat him out. But if once you beat him out, Ryan Fitzpatrick has the backup.


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[Assistant] I love, this is why I love pre-season, cause a lot of it you gotta throw out, right? With veteran players you throw out. Yes. It's just like, you can't tell a whole lot. But it's the first time we've seen these quarterbacks in an NFL environment. Right. In a game that kinda matters with a lot of guys out there that are trying to make a team. That's right. You can learn some stuff.


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[Assistant] I'm indifferent at this point. So, I know you haven't seen a whole lot of, you know, you haven't really broken down the tape on these guys. Yeah.


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[Assistant] The stock was up on both the Devons and the NFL Combine. We heard from Devin White and Devin Bush on the defensive side here.


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[Assistant] Uh, and another playmaker. Did you see Playmaking Ability with the Bears? David Montgomery.


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[Assistant] What'd you say, Matt? Uh, we wanna, you know, you're not a big fantasy guy, are you? Are you a big fantasy guy or no? No, not really. I'm trying to get into two leagues. I am in the Rotoworld league. Yeah, oh yeah. Rotoworld has a podcast as well.


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[Assistant] I thought you had some big grand, uh, bad things, like it ruins people's lives. No, I did not. Okay. Uhm, I got a surprise for you here. A surprise segment. Go ahead. Uhm...


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[Assistant] And, because in the preseason, this is what you hear all the time in the preseason, you go, overreactions, the overreactions from week one of the preseason, don't overreact to anything. So that's been done multiple times. Of course. But for the first time here on the Sims on Button podcast, we're doing something a little bit differently. You don't know this.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm gonna start with uh, with the Vikings. And they traded for not only a kicker,


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[Assistant] But a kickoff specialist. And a punter. They may have gotten a 3-1 Cory Vedvik, who uh, hails from Norway. Was with the Ravens. First preseason game goes 4-4-4. With field goals of 55, 54, 26, and 29 yards. And then averaged 55 yards on two punts.


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[Assistant] While I was looking up this story too, I realized, and I read this other tidbit, that the Ravens, I didn't realize this, they have not lost a preseason game since 2015. Did you know that? I had no idea. They have won 14 straight. Holy cow. John Harbaugh talked about their last loss was September 3rd, 2015, a one point loss to Atlanta. He goes, I'm still mad about that one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's okay, that's okay, good. Proper, proper. James Winston, are we, are we underreacting to the transformation that we're already seeing with James Winston who completed five passes all around the line of scrimmage for the preseason game? Bruce Arians trying to make him more of a game manager, don't do stupid stuff out there. Are we already seeing the transformation of James Winston?


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[Assistant] Melvin Gordon sitting out. We don't know how long he will be continuing to sit out. But in the first preseason game, uh, Austin Eckler, the 24 year old backup running back, carried the ball five times for 40 yards.


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[Assistant] Did have a fumble near the goal line. But in his career so far he's averaged 5.3 yards per carry. Very good. Better than Melvin Gordon. Are we underreacting to the fact that perhaps the Chargers think they have a running back who could replace Melvin Gordon? And Melvin Gordon will be shipped out at some point.


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[Assistant] And I'm glad that you said that suiting up and not playing is not a big deal. No, it's not a big deal.


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[Assistant] They call each other Rob, but yeaah, they both are, yeaah. No Bobs over there? No Bobs. No Bobs, okay. Which would make it easier. Yeaah. If I was a Bob. A Bob. No, they're not, they're not Bobs, but that's a good podcast and, uh, yeaah, the Premier League season, one week down, 37 to go. I mean, when does it ever end?


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[Assistant] Uh, poll results are in. Yeah? What? For the Antonio Brown, what is the craziest thing of the story?


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[Assistant] Uhm, we only, you know, Twitter poll, you only have room for really three. Right. Uhm, other got 4% of the votes. Okay. There's some other stuff out there. Uh, the third, 9% of the vote was checking his bank account during team meetings and liking on Instagram. Right.


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[Assistant] Second, with 31% of the vote, was getting Frostbite from Cryotherapy. And the number one crazy-


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[Assistant] We'll get to that eventually, but that's my number one thought.


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[Assistant] And that feeling, some of the teams that are having it right now inside their buildings, there's some really good examples of how quickly it happens this time of year.


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[Assistant] Two weeks ago, what a win at Cleveland. Wow, they're really good. Right. Right. Mariotta looks better than last year. Right. To go knock off the Browns in Cleveland, that's awesome. Golf clap all around. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Now what? Yeaah, now what? Now they're one of those teams with the hand right next to the panic button.


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[Assistant] The team definitely had more energy. Everyone had more. He had a little more bounce. Definitely. For sure. Yes. All kinds of things I want to follow up on there. Yeah. We'll get to that in a minute. Get to a deep dive. Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah. Solid.


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[Assistant] We both wanted to see more Tayson Hill than actually turned out. But Teddy, not to the extent that Eli Manning, I'm sorry, that Daniel Jones did, but was better than I thought he was going to be.


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[Assistant] Right. Teddy Bridgewater just a little bit over six and a half yards per attempt. That's gonna have to go up quite a bit if they're gonna. Has to. If they're gonna be in that game against Dallas.


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[Assistant] I thought he played with the confidence that he hadn't necessarily earned, and that's a compliment to him. Normally, to cut loose some of those draws like that, you have to be there a few times. So I give him a lot of credit as well. Pittsburgh, San Francisco, another first time starter, Mason Rudolph.


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[Assistant] It's similar to the way you describe what the saints did around Teddy Bridgewater.


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[Assistant] I never want to say they make it easy on a quarterback. Right. Because you know better than I do, I know a little bit, it's not easy for anybody. No, it's never easy. However, they played the kind of game around him where Bridgewater could be okay and they would win. Right. If Mason Rudolph plays that same way, they win that game because everybody else around him was pretty good.


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[Assistant] Next segment, one of my favorites. We kind of started already at the top with the damn okay with the way he talked about some of the lineage there. Right. But now he can do the football portion of it.


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[Assistant] Tied with Mark Gastineau for most all time through three games. Gastineau did it all the way back in 1984. Yea, Mark Gastineau.


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[Assistant] On the end of that one. Let's stay defense. Yeah. Stay in the NFC. What do you got for the next one?


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[Assistant] I think it's a big reason why, and you mentioned that they're not lighting it up offensively. Yeah. How many times the last 10 years? Uh, the majority of the time, after a game, winner or loss, Aaron Rodgers is up there.


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[Assistant] Little bit prickly. Yea, right. Hey, starting quarterbacks with the high standard are. Yep. See how relaxed and happy he was yesterday? It's, it's the least amount of


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[Assistant] Let's go to the AFC. Yeah. Offense, Jacoby Brissette. D-d-d-d-d-damn, okay. I expected him to be okay. I didn't know if he was gonna show up on damn okay.


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[Assistant] You're flying under the radar. Really under the radar. It's kind of a collegiate thing, but maybe this is happening in the NFL as well. Anderlock retires, and people aren't feeling sorry for the Colts, but they're not afraid of them either. No. Because that's the one thing that made you afraid to play Indianapolis. He's gone, and now people are seeing that, I don't know if I want to say, and you can correct me, that the offense hasn't missed a beat, but they're still really good.


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[Assistant] Is there anything else you see that's missing? From luck to percent?


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[Assistant] Hopefully you would have voted for the same thing. I would have definitely been in my top. Yes, for sure. And we, I think we were talking about it before. I feel like we've talked about Mahomes already today, but that was before we started the show. Yeah. So where do you want to start? Kansas City offense Ravens D. What part?


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[Assistant] Do you, like, do you, like, say that to yourself in your head? And like, you're gonna be like, boy, should I really? I mean, that's a giant statement. Should I really go that high?


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[Assistant] I was like, that is not an overstatement. Who comes to mind, like, up there when you say that, like, okay, I guess they are better than that.


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[Assistant] It's just, I've never seen anything like it. And we were talking about it before the podcast started. You used a great word. He's so young already, but we're getting numb or we're in danger of getting numb to these things because he does it six or eight times a game.


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[Assistant] And it's so special compared to even other terrific throwers that we've seen that becoming numb to what he does every single Sunday or Monday or Thursday I think is a danger. It's a first class problem.


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[Assistant] So as I was watching them this morning when I heard from you and heard that we were going to be talking about this game in a deep dive sense, I'm watching and thinking a lot of the similar things, a lot of wow, a lot of boy, this is really cool to be watching this. And I'm trying to think of something to do besides just compliment.


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[Assistant] The Andy Reid-Patrick Mahomes combination. If you were the quarterback coach in Kansas City, let's say the Wednesday-Thursday practice where everybody goes with his position coach and you're taking 30-45 minutes just to work on something where you have to get better. We're going to take this time to work on a deficiency.


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[Assistant] What would you do on Wednesday and Thursday with Mahomes? Ooh, that's a good question. To help him get better.


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[Assistant] Defensively, are you talking about that the scheme was too easy to decipher or they didn't give them enough different looks?


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[Assistant] I think we can take a, yeaah, I think we can take a listen to John, is that correct? Here we go.


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[Assistant] Here's a question on that one. Go ahead, go ahead. Better odds for converting fourth and two or your defense stopping Patrick Mahomes in the next drive.


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[Assistant] So I'm watching the Chiefs offense this morning. Saw a couple plays that I'm like, I don't want to just talk about this. I want Chris to look at it.


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[Assistant] I wanna get familiar with what they're doing here. I wanna draw it up and explain why I feel this is special. Right. And see what you think about this game. Sure. And also see how you would defend it.


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[Assistant] I've given you the chance to be the quarterback coach for the Chiefs during the week. Yes. Now I'm going to give you a chance to be a defensive consultant.


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[Assistant] Thank you. To see how, how you would stop one of these plays. Sure. Okay. Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Before we get up to the whiteboard, I circled on your notes. Yep. That you wrote the Chiefs will stretch you horizontally and vertically. Yeah, right. And that plays into perfectly into what I want to take a look at here. Yep, cool. Let's do it. Yep, I like it.


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[Assistant] They make you defend the entire field right now with the way they're calling plays. I think that was mostly an east-west thing with all their formations and motions and what they're doing there. This is gonna be more with the Chiefs of how they are stretching you out vertically. I know it's something that you made reference to as well.


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[Assistant] Before we do, just for a little bit of context. Let me grab this pen here. So when a team...


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[Assistant] Attempts to stretch a defense vertically. There are some landmarks, uh, that the offenses and defenses know. Sure. Okay, so let's start out in the middle of the field. If you're thinking seams, deep ends, maybe a skinny post.


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[Assistant] I'd say 50 to 55. Doesn't happen that often, but that's kind of what you're looking for. If they're going to go down the side, they're going to run down on the 9 route.


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[Assistant] On the play that you mentioned, the touchdown. They come in motion here.


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[Assistant] He's gonna come up and just run a little sit route at about 10 yards. Right, and he gets Earl Thomas to jump up and cover him right away, right? That was what made it work. Right. Wide receiver runs vertical. Okay. Yep. Hartman's gonna run a vertical as well. Yep. Side seam. Right. Kelsey kinda gets out here. I don't think he's ever really gonna be a factor, so he does that. Nope. Okay, so if you're a defense, you're thinking- And what'd they do here?


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[Assistant] So, defensively, they're thinking, we're looking in here for these seam routes.


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[Assistant] Talent doesn't matter. Who else is throwing a seam route with that kind of pace and that kind of speed not over the top, not in the middle where they're expecting it, but right here at 35 yards is something that


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[Assistant] Okay, schematically this is nothing new. Verticals, a sit, it's the fact that they're hitting him with a fastball 35 yards downfield. What does a defense do to stop that?


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[Assistant] In such a copycat league, how come other teams aren't trying to see it?


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[Assistant] I think what stood out to me though about what you just mentioned, it wasn't a scheme or personnel, it was the Patriots having the balls to play this coverage where you could very likely get out of sorts.


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[Assistant] Maybe they got a little overconfident with the way they scored on that first drive. This is just my scribble notes from watching it. I think in the 13 play touchdown drive, they only had three running back runs.


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[Assistant] And the rest of it was a mix of run pass option, Lamar keeping it, Lamar dropping back, making a nice throw, play action setup, play action boot. Where most of what they did was taking advantage of his improvement in the pocket and the fact that the best weapon they have offensively is his make you miss in the pocket and outside the pocket.


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[Assistant] Not away from what they really are as a football team to a degree. 43 passing attempts. That's a career high. Previous high was mid to high 30s. 37.


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[Assistant] It's a fine line between realizing your quarterback is a lot better than he was last year, and taking advantage of that, and as you pointed out, getting away from your identity a little bit too.


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[Assistant] I would imagine in the next 13 weeks there'll be some other teams that have that Mahomes effect as well. I would think so too. Get a little bit away from that. Yea, you get away, you get scared. Where normally you can score 27 if you feel good. Hey, we gotta score 37. Right. This week.


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[Assistant] Ready for some more headlines? Yea, let's do it. I wanna get back into the deep dive with the Buccaneers and Giants here. Yeah. Momentarily. That would be a good one as well. Right. Headliner Rams Browns last night.


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[Assistant] Which of those two identities you think suits Baker Mayfield best?


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[Assistant] A lot of compliments about the Rams have been, uh, woven in here throughout the last 30 or 40 minutes. You said you think Dallas and LA are the best teams in the NFC. Which one's better right now? Clearly, only three weeks. Yeah, I know. Who's won?


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[Assistant] Well coached at that too. Thinking about another team that hasn't lost yet at the NFC. It's kind of a roundabout way of getting to the Lions and the Eagles. Headline there. You never wake up a sleeping lion.


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[Assistant] What'd you expect? Right? I mean, come on. I wanna see the Patriots break a sweat. My gosh. It's unreal. You ever seen a 3-0? That looked so easy, they almost looked bored.


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[Assistant] I think they're ready and, you know, we're all ready to have them run this sprint and have somebody running next to them as their...


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[Assistant] Anything would be a non sequitur at this point. No, nothing you can do after the dildo talk. No. Jets Patriots headline, we hit that. We advanced all the way to the Bills, the Bills game next week. How about this? How about thinking of, uh,


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[Assistant] Three touchdown spread games. Yeah. Dolphins, Cowboys.


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[Assistant] And then... You talk about identity, that you're looking for with Cleveland. Thank you. Three weeks, this team has an identity. They have an identity, right. We're back in week one, when Cousins completed eight passes, Preston a hundred, Odds an aberration.


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[Assistant] We touched on the bills a little bit already, bangles, bills, buffalo.


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[Assistant] Playmaker's too, it's right, it's too general for his brand of playmaking. So, get beyond playmaking. Someone who had never seen him play before, and you couldn't use the term playmaker. Someone wanted to say, who's this Josh Allen guy? How does he play?


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[Assistant] And so Alan is going to be that same guy. I mean, standard deviation or two better than what he is, maybe not as many poor decisions. Right. Is the defense good enough to get this team to 10, 11 wins this year with Josh being at that point in his development? I do. I do think it's good enough.


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[Assistant] And a very accurate throw. Right. Perfect, that allowed, and people say I only threw it 12 yards, but he hit him in the exact perfect spot that allowed him to maintain that speed. Right. And turn into a touchdown. Turns the corner.


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[Assistant] Thinking of that game plan, and I wrote this down here and underlined it and also highlighted. I think that the biggest compliment, if you're reading it the right way, that Pat Shermer and the coaches gave to him.


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[Assistant] We trust him from practice, but should we trust him in a game? Let's not trust him yet. They let him drop back and read and fire right away. What a compliment to what he has shown them. And then he paid it off by not making poor decisions and throwing the ball well. So that's number one.


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[Assistant] There was a three, a three play sequence in the second half when they were down.


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[Assistant] I think to, to start it out, to start the possession, they ran a blitz right up the middle. And off his back foot, he knew that the under route was, I don't know if it was technically hot, but he knew he had to get rid of it. So he avoided the bad play and did that. His next play I thought was his best. You remember a little play action, he dropped back.


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[Assistant] Had he not made the perfect throw, a lot of people would have said he threw the double coverage. He was double covered, that's a rookie mistake, it would have been played all week. But because he threw a perfect pass, no one cared that he was double covered.


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[Assistant] You think he holds it too long? And I only ask because I was writing down so many compliments about how he


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[Assistant] Didn't need a clean pocket about how he kept his eyes downfield when it was crashing in on him. It's such a fine line between saying that's a great quality or, oh, he's holding it too long. He doesn't know when to get rid of the ball.


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[Assistant] He has three fumbles this year already, so I suppose if you were looking for something?


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[Assistant] I want to say I got to figure it out, you know, uhm, this, in the give of Sunday, you know, you can get hurt in practice on a drop back.


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[Assistant] You know, I play ball to win. I don't worry about getting injured, stuff like that. I just play it safe.


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[Assistant] I can't say nothing. You got, you got, that's your own opinion. You know, I'm gonna play ball. I'm gonna do what got me here to help me succeed. I'm gonna help my team keep winning. Uh, that's all I can do. I can't, I can't stop you guys from saying, saying nothing. Protect myself, you know.


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[Assistant] If you take that much time to explain every time you're wrong, our show is gonna consist of you constantly talking about all the things you were wrong with. You know what? Screw you, Floria. I think that's the first time I've been wrong in weeks.


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[Assistant] At some point late in PFT Live on Thursday morning when you apologized publicly to Matt Neggy and Mitchell Trubisky for doubting the legitimacy of the phony hip injury that was used as a pretext to get him off the field on Sunday night. So apparently he did have a hip injury, but, uh,


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[Assistant] Sure, cause you're getting your ass kicked. You don't care about it because you're down 12 games. You're down 12 games through 11 weeks. That is embarrassing.


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[Assistant] Well, well, I think it's safe to say that you have none of those things up your ass because you were 0 and 3. I think we need to come up with a different name for best bets if that's the best you can do.


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[Assistant] I initially thought Texans, and as I talked about the game during the radio hour while you're still in bed from 6am to 7am eastern, and I started thinking about it and looking at it and considering where the Colts are, how they've got to where they are, the two games they lost.


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[Assistant] Without Jacobi Berset, he only missed one full game, but he missed most of the game against Pittsburgh. Both games they lost, and I think they would have won if he had played, and they would be eight and two right now. And I think if they were eight and two right now, they'd be favored.


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[Assistant] And I'd still like them to win, and I do like them to win right now, even though they're 6 and 4 like the Texans, and I think the Texans are reeling.


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[Assistant] From what happened to them in Baltimore, 41 to seven loss, not enough time to fully digest it. You may have some guys in the locker room who at some level acknowledge this really isn't our year. If we can't hang with the Ravens in the middle of the regular season, how are we going to hang with the Ravens or the Patriots in the postseason? And I think this is just a situation where the table is set.


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[Assistant] For the Colts to steal it. They've done well against the Texans recently. Jacobi Berset is very underrated. You had him in the top 10 when you reconfigured your quarterback rankings a couple of weeks ago before he suffered that knee injury. I like the Colts in this one. 27 to 24. So they're getting three and a half.


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[Assistant] Easy to pick the cults to cover, easy to pick the cults to win, and...


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[Assistant] They may be one of my best bets of the week, although I resist doing it on Thursday night because I like to be able to market and push and sell our best bets into the weekend. But I really do like the Colts tonight after last night thinking I like the Texans.


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[Assistant] Colts have Ty Hilton questionable with a calf injury. He's missed three games in a row. He's suggested that he'll be good to go. Eric Ebron has an ankle injury. He's questionable.


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[Assistant] And out for the Colts, Marlon Mack, they're running back, but Jonathan Williams did well last week without him. Paris Campbell out with the hand injury and for the Texans, Will Fuller is questionable.


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[Assistant] With the hamstring. He was questionable last week. Didn't travel to Baltimore. They downgraded him a day before the game. Home game. Who knows? He may or may not be good to go, but that's the big injury to keep an eye on for the Texans because they could use Will Fuller. They could use any help they can get for Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Yeah, look, the Falcons have beaten the Saints handily on the road. They've beaten the Panthers handily on the road. They've got three more games against NFC South rivals all at home. It's bucks.


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[Assistant] Saints on Thanksgiving night, then the Panthers 10 days later. And I like where the Falcons are right now. I don't know what they did during the bye week. Matt Ryan told me after the win against the Panthers that they really didn't do anything. There was no...


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[Assistant] Team meeting, no big speech. They appreciate the fact that a coaching change wasn't made and they were able to just focus on the things they need to do better and they've been doing them well. To win on the road against a pair of division rivals who are both playoff contenders and I guess we can say


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[Assistant] Well, the Panthers still are, but not the playoff contenders they were a couple of weeks ago. Impressive wins by the Falcons. And I think this is the easy one. They've won the two hard ones. Beating the Buccaneers who were three and seven. I know that Buccaneers have been in some close games, but they did not look good against the Saints last weekend. I think they're in the process of disintegrating.


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[Assistant] Dirk Cutter, the former Buccaneers head coach, gets a little shot at revenge against the team that fired him. How dare they fire a guy who deserved to be fired. But still, there's some hard feelings there and there's some inside information about how to deal with Jameis Winston. Not that the Falcons don't already know from playing him twice a year, but Dirk Cutter can help


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[Assistant] Refine and focus their game plan to confuse and confound Jameis Winston and get him to have one of those moments where he tries to do more than his physical abilities will allow him to do. I like the Falcons in this one. 30 to 20 and it may be even worse than that.


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[Assistant] Now, the more I think about this one, the more I believe it's going to be a blowout win for the Falcons. And they're going to continue this late season, whatever it is, because the chances of making it to the playoffs, especially in the NFC, very, very thin. But they're benefiting from this one week after another division rival. And they've got momentum now. And the Buccaneers, I feel like, are right on the edge of imploding. And this could be the thing that pushes them over the edge.


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[Assistant] And I think we have to consider what happened to the Broncos last week, up 20 to nothing and it fell apart. How are they going to respond to that? Are they going to come out?


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[Assistant] Uh, deflated and resigned to the fact that the eighth loss of the year is coming or do they find a way to regroup and press the reset button? And I don't know that it really matters on the road against a Bills team that knows that it needs to rack up every win that it can


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[Assistant] As the stretch run arrives because this schedule gets a lot more difficult for Buffalo. They can't afford to blow one here when they have the short week trip to Dallas for a Thanksgiving game. I like the bills in this one and a very close one. You know, I look at that 38 and a half and


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[Assistant] You know, I haven't done an over under best bet yet, but I don't see it anywhere close to 38 total points. I got 13 to 10 buffalo. I just do not see plenty of points. Although you went with the under last week with the Vikings Broncos and it blew up in your face. Did you go with the under in that one? Is that one of your best bets?


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[Assistant] It's just funny when you say 23 to 13, that seems high scoring and it's still under. Yea, I know. I really am thinking about picking the under, even though it's 38 and a half, how many times is the over under now north of 40? I'm really thinking about taking the under in that game.


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[Assistant] And, and I don't have a whole lot of faith in the Bears, but look, when these are the two teams that are playing against each other, somebody's gotta win the game. And I think the Bears at home, we're getting toward late November.


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[Assistant] I feel like the Bears find a way to win, get to five and six, which is inexplicable to think that they'd be that good when we look at them and view them as being so bad. 27 to 17 is the score I've picked. I don't think Saquon Barkley is healthy, fully healthy. I don't think he's going to be fully healthy all year long.


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[Assistant] Daniel Jones, there's enough tape out there now where Chuck Pagano and company can figure out how to shut him down. And the only reason the Bears offense is regre- or defense has regressed this year is because the offense is so bad. The defense is still very good. And if the offense can just keep it close, the defense can put the clamps on the Giants. So I like it, 27 to 17, Bears over the Giants.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I agree with you, and look, it's, it's amazing to think the Bears are still alive in the NFC, but I don't think they're gonna be alive for a whole lot longer. And oh my gosh, they're playing the Lions on Thanksgiving.


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[Assistant] It did Vikings Lions two years in a row, and now they've done Bears Lions two in a row, and I guess it'll be Packers Lions two in a row after that. It doesn't make any sense to me. And especially now that they have the crossflex for broadcasting. I mean it used to be very rigid. There had to be an NFC team.


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[Assistant] But I don't think it'll happen. The Steelers are banged up. They're not going to have Marquis Pouncy. They're starting center at a minimum. He's going to be suspended one game. I don't think there's been a final decision yet in his appeal. They've got injuries at receiver. Juju Smith Schuster has a knee problem and he's in the concussion protocol. Mason Rudolph stinks.


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[Assistant] But the Bengals are as bad as any team we've seen.


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[Assistant] Since the 2017 Browns went 0-16 and, you know, the Bengals still have five more shots at getting their only win of the season if they lose this one. And I think the Steelers can roll in there, take over the stadium with their fans and get


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[Assistant] But the window is open to try to sneak in as a wild card and I think the Steelers understand the importance of getting this victory.


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[Assistant] Q Jackson was on FS1 yesterday talking about the Colin Kaepernick workout and at one point he was asked where Kaepernick would be a fit and he mentioned one team and that one team was the Steelers. And when you look at Mason Rudolph and Devlin Hodges


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[Assistant] It would make sense. I don't know how Steelers fans would react. Yeaah. And I think that the Roonies don't want to find out how they would react. Right. But he would be an upgrade. Yeaah, I mean.


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[Assistant] You just mentioned that you're burping coffee into the microphone. You're very transparent about those sorts of things, whether it's you or whether it's me. Hey, you okay there? You're burping? Okay, let me ask you this. Yes. If you would ever fart during the show. Right. And it would be audible. Right. Would you admit it or would you deny it?


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[Assistant] I don't know, and I asked that because we've had a couple of incidents lately, and it was Mike Francesa, and it was Eric Swalwell.


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[Assistant] And they're trying to say that, that, uh, that it was Chris Matthew's mug going across the desk. Yeah. And go watch the video. And I've got my mug right now going across the desk. It does not sound like a fart. Yeah. It's a mug going across the desk. Right. And, uh, yeah, if I would ever do it and it would be heard.


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[Assistant] Uh, I, I am not commenting on whether or not I've ever done it and it not be heard, or whether or not I've done it and thought, I wonder if that was heard, but if it ever would be heard, I would own it, I would enjoy it, and I, it's, look, we're humans. If you, if you're a human and you don't do that, there's something wrong with you.


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[Assistant] He does have a right shoulder and a right forearm injury. Look, the Browns are surging. They've won two in a row. This is their third straight home game. They got the vertical stripes in the end zone, which apparently are far more effective than the horizontal stripes.


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[Assistant] They won't have Miles Garrett, they won't have Larry Ogan-Joby, but they're good enough to beat the Dolphins. If they're serious about, this is one of those, if you're serious about being a playoff contender, you win this game. If you can't win this game,


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[Assistant] You're not a playoff contender. So this is a good litmus test, or as one of us once said, litmus test.


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[Assistant] On whether or not the Browns are a playoff contender, and it doesn't mean they definitely gonna make it to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] But if they trip over their own two feet against the Dolphins, then they should just forget about 2019. I like them to win this game by the score of 30 to 13. I may be a little generous with the point margin there, but I like the Browns 30 to 13.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it feels like the Panthers are falling apart just like they were falling apart last year when they started six and two and finished seven and nine. They've lost two in a row after they were five and three.


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[Assistant] Getting back on the right side of things after losing to the Falcons and in the division, you never know what's going to happen, but I think the Saints good enough to win this game. I've got it 31 to 20. Maybe it'll be a little closer than that. I don't know that I feel strongly about this one, but


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[Assistant] I think the Saints with that rematch against the Falcons looming on a short week, they're going to want to take care of business with the Panthers and continue to move forward.


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[Assistant] Division title in their sights, they've got a buy in their sights, ultimately a shot at the number one seed, and uh, I feel pretty good about where the Saints are right now, not withstanding that loss from a couple of weeks ago to the Falcons.


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[Assistant] 99% chance of precipitation on Sunday in New York. 53 is the high, 39 is the low.


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[Assistant] I like the Jets in this one. We saw what they did to the Cowboys at MetLife Stadium earlier this year. Now they've won two in a row. And the Raiders may be due for a little bit of a correction. We're assuming it's going to be seven and four Raiders at the seven and four Chiefs next week. This one's not going to be as easy as


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[Assistant] Some think it will be, and look, the Raiders screwed around with the Bengals last week, 17 to 10. I guess I'm a little upset because the Raiders are one of my best bets to cover the 11 point spread, and they didn't.


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[Assistant] So I'm gonna take it out on him this week and I'm gonna pick the Jets for Spite. Yes, sometimes it comes down to Spite. The Raiders screwed me last week. I would have been 3-0 and I do feel like it's time for a bit of a correction and I like what


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[Assistant] The Jets are doing defensively. I like how they're using Jamal Adams. We've talked about that. He's at the line of scrimmage. He's creating havoc. He had six sacks in three games. One then two then three. He's due for four this week. And this is the kind of thing that could get inside Derek Carr's head and really contribute to not a full blown meltdown.


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[Assistant] Yeah, see, you can't kick my ass if we have all the same picks. And on this one, we have the exact same score of 20 to 17. I know.


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[Assistant] Their backs against the wall eagles are my favorite eagles because they find a way to get the victory. And their backs weren't quite against the wall against the Patriots, but their backs are against the wall.


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[Assistant] This week against the Seahawks. Seahawks had extra time to get ready. This game went from evening


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[Assistant] It does screw things up a little bit for Seattle. We have great games in each of the three major windows on Sunday, each of the only three windows. The one o'clock is now Seattle, Philly, 425 Dallas, New England. We got the prime time game


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[Assistant] 49ers Packers, and I like the Eagles in this one, and this is just one of those gut feel games. I think the Seahawks are the better team.


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[Assistant] And I think this is one of those, if you play it 9 out of 10 times, the Seahawks win.


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[Assistant] The one time out of 10, the Eagles win is the time that's gonna happen on Sunday. 27-24, just enough by the Eagles offense, just enough by the defense. That score may be a little high. I'm still gonna stick with 27-24.


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[Assistant] Lions in Washington, I like the Lions to win. Jeff Driscoll gets his, his first victory of the season. I think he finagled one win last year when he was playing down the stretch with the Bengals. Washington just stinks. They're horrible. Their stadium's gonna be overrun by Lions fans, even though the Lions aren't worth watching this year. The Jets fans overran it last year.


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[Assistant] Washington is an embarrassment and they're gonna lose another one. Here come the Lions to get a win. The Lions, a better team than the record indicates. Even without Matthew Stafford, I'd like the Lions to win this one, 20 to 13.


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[Assistant] I noticed over the years that I have a bad habit of picking teams to win or lose based upon my preseason predictions for how teams will finish. I gave into that last week, picking the Jaguars to beat the Colts. I should have picked the Colts to beat the Jaguars, but I want my pick of the Jaguars to win the division.


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[Assistant] 23-21, a Titans kind of game, maybe a field goal made at the end of the game by the Titans or a field goal missed at the end of the game by the Jaguars, or maybe it'd be 21-21 and there'll be a two point conversion, you know, one of those screwy things where the Jaguars are trying to kick the extra point to win it and the Titans block it and return it for a two pointer, who knows, but the Titans find a way


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[Assistant] To get to six and five and they'll be tied for second place in the division. And there's still a team that we have to look at as a potential division champion. They beat the Chiefs. I mean, think about that.


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[Assistant] The Texans beat the Chiefs, the Colts beat the Chiefs, the Titans beat the Chiefs. And, uh, the Chiefs should be very happy they're not in the AFC South. But, uh, I like the Titans to win the game.


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[Assistant] Which is going to potentially seal the fate of Doug Marrone and Tom Coughlin in Jacksonville. And, uh, I, you know, this Jaguars team all of a sudden not looking like a team that is going to be alive down the stretch. And I think Sunday's game pushes them closer to the official elimination of their playoff hopes.


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[Assistant] Full participation in practice on Wednesday for Jarell Casey shoulder and Corey Davis hip. So they're both on track to be available come Sunday.


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[Assistant] I was buying your notion that the Cowboys have a chance to win the game, and maybe they can.


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[Assistant] That Kellen Moore is not ready to match wits with Bill Belichick. That Bill Belichick will know what to do to slow down that offense. Take away Dak Prescott. Beat up on Ezekiel Elliott. They have the defense to shut down the Cowboys offense. And they have the offense to do just enough. And I think this is gonna be one of those game plans where


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[Assistant] They, they chew up the clock when they have the ball. They put more pressure on the Cowboys to force them.


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[Assistant] To have a sense of urgency. Get up by 7 or 10 points if they can and then just put the clamps on the Cowboys offense. I like the, the Patriots to win this one. I've picked a close final score 20 to 17.