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[Assistant] Week four, they go to Green Bay, but Jordan loves sort of flourishing and absolutely bludgeon the Packers. And then week five, and this is remember like our, our buddy Aaron Shaw said for years in football outsiders.


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[Assistant] Uh, Wilson, that a sign of a really, really good football team is that you smash inferior opponents and the beat down they put on the Panthers today.


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[Assistant] Like the box, it's like 48 to 24, something like 45, 24. That doesn't do it justice.


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[Assistant] Like the Panthers, the Panthers scored two touchdowns late and they were absolute garbage time. Nobody cares about it. The Panthers had, were not involved in this game. They were beaten in every aspect of this game, utterly and completely. Jared golf was locked in. The running game was rolling. The defense was playing well. Um,


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[Assistant] The Lions, the Lions I think are the third best team in the NFC and I think they're closer to Philly is the number two than they are to Dallas is the number four.


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[Assistant] And they gave a Jamal Williams who's a touchdown monster last year in Atta Montgomery. And he, he's like Jamal Williams with souped up. I mean, look at that. Yeah, they get much, much rushing touchdowns in the first four games of the season.


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[Assistant] Montgomery 6, Jamal Williams 6 from last year and then Barry Sanders for 6 and 91. I think just really quickly on the Panthers.


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[Assistant] When my, like, I was doing a, uh, a v-son hit, like the Vegas radio station last week, and like, I'm talking about, like, my mom and my dad are texting me about Frank Reich concerns. So, Frank Reich, you're officially on the hot seat when Anne and Bob Brinson are, are worried that you are a problem for the Panthers.


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[Assistant] By the way, if Carolina ends up with a one or two pick...


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[Assistant] And the bear, like, let's take care of that, giving the bears the number one overall pack.


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[Assistant] Jalen Carter, who they could have taken it number nine overall and two second round picks for Bryson. Yes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that the, so the chief score 27 points beat the Vikings, 27, 20 Mahomes, 31 to 41, 281 and two touchdowns. Not much in the running game. Kelsey, 11 targets, 10 catches, 67 yards and a score. And then you had Justin Watson, Reishi Rice, Justin Ross, Kaderi's Tony.


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[Assistant] All of the bunch of like sort of poo poo platter receiving stuff. I just don't think, I think the chiefs have four in one. I think that what the chief, here's my hot take on the chiefs, the chiefs of the new Patriots.


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[Assistant] They have this ensconced superstar hall of fame all time quarterback on a reasonable contract that is team friendly. They have one weapon.


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[Assistant] And for the Patriots, there's always like Wes Welker or Edelman, right? But it's for the, for the chiefs is Travis Kelsey, who is just unstoppable. They have this.


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[Assistant] And they're stacking winds early and figuring things out as they move along. And with the end of the day, when all the dust clears, the chiefs will be the one seed in the AFC and they will win the Superbowl or be hosting the AFC championship game and maybe get really unlucky.


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[Assistant] I just think, no, my hot, my hot tech is the chief of the new Patriots. This is going to happen for the next 10 years.


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[Assistant] Harry's gonna follow up here, he's like, dude, the chiefs scare you.


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[Assistant] Let's say that you, let's say the Bengals and Joe burrow figure it, figure this thing out, give it the playoffs and, um.


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[Assistant] Petrify you the way that they might have retired Hill and Travis Kelsey.


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[Assistant] They're, they're, they're, they're, they are like the Patriots so many different times under Belichick with Tom Brady, they reimagine themselves as they went along and you're like, Oh, I guess this is finally it. They don't have the weapons. It's like, Oh no, that's Ray Shea Caldwell catching 15 catches in a playoff game. Like that's what the chiefs are. So I'll ask again.


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[Assistant] Are we more concerned about the Chiefs, the quotation marks, or the Eagles right now?


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[Assistant] Look at these numbers. And if you're watching on YouTube, youtube.com slash at NFL on CBS, if you're not watching and you're listening on Spotify, we appreciate you give us a five star review. But for those listening, I'll point this out. The NFL rushing yard leaders.


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[Assistant] Davin, Devon A Chan. Ever since he changed his name from Chan to Chan, it really messed me up.


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[Assistant] Here are their rushing totals. Montgomery, 80 rushing attempts totals. Montgomery, 88.


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[Assistant] 1980s like drug running speedboat and like that, like that should be their like mascot. This team is the fastest team I've ever seen assembled in the modern NFL.


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[Assistant] Like even more than like the Tyree kill chiefs, like every single skill position guy most hurt. Tyree kill.


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[Assistant] Achan, uh, Waddle, like even 2 is pretty fast. Like this is the fastest team I've ever seen breach.


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[Assistant] So just, just to be clear, you, I'm not making fun of you. I'm, I'm struggling with this so badly going from a chain or a chain to a, a chain. A chain.


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[Assistant] It's great, but it's like a hard, it's one, that's a hard thing to get my head around. Two, you mentioned being walked down. Did you hear that Achan went up to?


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[Assistant] Tyreke Hill, after he got walked down on that, he started using the right side of the formation, catches a quick ball, darts up the middle and he's like diving left. He gets walked down. Uh, and David Davout gives up to him. He's like, you got caught. What are you slow? And then Tyreke after the game actually revealed that.


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[Assistant] A Chan is the third fastest player on the team behind Tyreek Hill and quote a white boy or a white guy. I don't remember how Tyreek said it. Who's on their practice squad. I don't know who he is, but Tyreek says that he's the second fastest guy on the, on the dolphins between Tyreek, Tyreek one.


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[Assistant] Uh, white, random white guy on practice squad too. Harry, producer Harry, what's his name?


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[Assistant] Yeah, when Hammer was, when Hammer don't hurt him, when Hammer vanilla ice for the hottest things on planet earth. That was what a time to be a small child. You're like, this is the peak of music in America. Obviously. Um, Hammer vanilla ice were awesome.


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[Assistant] I, the jet ceiling, I think is a really good question, Wilson, because I don't know that like.


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[Assistant] But coming out of the, coming out of the buy in week seven, after they lose the Eagles at home, they have four games, three are on the road, but it's at giants.


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[Assistant] Which is not on the road because that's at home. The chargers at home at the Raiders and at the bills.


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[Assistant] If they lose the eagles and they fall to two and four.


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[Assistant] Can they go two and two and be four and six and like lingering, you know, it's like in the hunt. Can they be in the hunt after those four games? I feel like they can.


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[Assistant] I think, I think, I think the best case is nine and eight wild card surprise and you lose in the first round.


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[Assistant] The dragging the Jets thing aside, you motivated the Jets. You literally motivated an Aaron Rodgers list Jets team to play for Nathaniel Hackett. Somebody that like, it doesn't appear that really anyone other than Aaron Rodgers likes.


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[Assistant] And Breach pointed out a week one, you know, he like cuts his cage, trades Brandy McManus and then brings in Will Lutz or lots to kick for him. That mistake happens. You have the multiple special teams mistakes. Um, and it's just like,


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[Assistant] Like that's every reply these days. And it feels a little bit like the stuff that happened when Belichick and Brady split where it was like Belichick is washed because he didn't have Brady anymore. But like, what's the argument for Sean Payton?


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[Assistant] That's your guy. You tell me. I mean, I think he's, I think he's still a good, a really good head coach, but buddy, this is going poorly. I mean,


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[Assistant] Somebody might get fired for not piling on enough of the certain things. I mean, like, like the jets, I mean, the Broncos season so far, they lost 17, 16 to 17 to the Raiders at home in week one. You lose 33, 35 with that crazy commander's comeback.


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[Assistant] The dolphins drop a 70 burger on you. You have to storm back to beat the bears on the road. 3128 and then you lose by double digits at home against the jets. Like this team could be like four in one.


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[Assistant] So I actually wrote about this in sort of the Sunday pile. You can check it out on cbssports.com.


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[Assistant] If you click on it, click on it 11 bajillion times because I want the clerks and I'm trying to catch breach of traffic this month.


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[Assistant] 11 billion, 11 bajillion pages behind him. Um, so I think here's where I'm at on the AFC South. The Jaguars are good.


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[Assistant] And they're going to be in the mix for one of the top three seeds, top two seeds maybe in the AFC.


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[Assistant] I love this. This is a game. It's like, think about, think about what this.


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[Assistant] If you're watching on youtube.com slash at NFL and CBS it's the picture of the.


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[Assistant] The person, yeah, in this costume, which can best be described as a three piece suit.


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[Assistant] On the blazer, so the blazer is a navy blazer standard with a navy, uh, uh, uh, bowler hat that he also has in conjunction with this outfit. There's a green teal vest, teal and gold vest underneath and then a leopard skin


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[Assistant] Uh, button up shirt with a teal bow tie. There's a British flag, a Jaguars teal and gold captain.


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[Assistant] I think, I think there's also a leopard skin or a jaguar skin ascot involved. There are some, there's some yellow teal eyeglasses and, uh, some kitty cat, uh, like a little, uh, little bow thing that goes on the kitty cat, like the ears, kitty cat ears.


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[Assistant] And it's in a, in a, in a bowler. Like this is the most interesting, like if you ran into this person in real life, you don't want them to know your name or your phone number.


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[Assistant] Anyway, the point being is this person, super fan and the Jaguars, a legitimate team.


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[Assistant] Colts I think are good, but I cannot get past Anthony Richardson having three significant injuries that cost him either two of them. The last two, he left the game and didn't come back. And the last one, the concussion, he missed the next week. The first one, they said he couldn't come back in all the design runs.


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[Assistant] In three different weeks in the first five weeks of his career with a, with a head coach and Shane Steichen who loves to run his quarterback. It's extremely concerning for Anthony Richardson's future in the NFL, short and long-term.


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[Assistant] Otherwise I kind of like the calls, but the gardener mentioned thing is kind of nice. The Titans. I don't know what the hell to think about the Titans. They either get blown out, they blow somebody out or they win or lose a really, really, really close, weird one score game.


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[Assistant] And then the Texans, I think are the sneaky team who could slide in as a wild card, like the seven seed with the Jaguars winning the division because they should have beat Atlanta and have mostly looked kind of stable throughout the year. I think to me, go Ryan's, if you get them above eight to one or anything about five to one, honestly, it's probably a pretty good look for coach of the year.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I also think that like at this point, this is, this is your hot date for in the cults. Gardner mentioned is untradeable. Well, yeah, I mean.


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[Assistant] Because usually like you lose a quarterback like, like Richardson for three games and you're dead.


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[Assistant] He's also, he's also stuck playing California Taxes. And did Karen get married or did Karen marry Chris or Jake?


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[Assistant] Actually, you know what, I'll go, uh, no, no, I got, no, I got one, I got one. I got a Brinson MVP. Brinson VP. Brinson VP. Brinson VP. BVP. Desmond Ritter.


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[Assistant] I like Ken and Barbie, they're pretty funny. They're in the Toy Story movies. And Buzz Lightyear is a classic, so I'll go with him too. I'm a big Slinky Dog fan. Not surprised.


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[Assistant] None. I mean, I'm assuming they thought, hey look, if an up back ends up with it, there's no way that guy's going to return it for a touchdown because your up backs aren't as fast as your deep return guys. So I think Jacksonville just outsmarted themselves.


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[Assistant] Well, stay as many resources as possible.


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[Assistant] It will be interesting to see what he does against Ryan Steelers though, because you look at he's piling up passing yards at least in the first two weeks, not really in garbage time, but where his team was trailing.


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[Assistant] Uh, with double digit losses to the Ravens and Colts, but he did look really good against Jacksonville and as Ryan said, hit on a couple big time throws that you'd always expect to see from a rookie.


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[Assistant] But so we're talking about two of these three games where you're piling up the yard. So it will be very interesting to see how he handles the sealers defense. And I feel like Mike Tomlin has a pretty good track record against rookie quarterbacks. Wilson. No, I think.


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[Assistant] Ryan, who are you picking to win this Texans-Deelers game? Just out of curiosity.


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[Assistant] Let's rephrase the question real quick, Pete. The Cardinals are one and three. If they win their next two games against the 49ers and Bengals, are you still putting Kyle Murray back in or are you sick with Josh Dobbs?


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[Assistant] He throws for 224 yards in one touchdown in both games.


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[Assistant] I'm of the, if I was a head coach in the NFL and I have a quarterback who's winning games,


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[Assistant] And real quick, I don't think Mintchou should be the starter, like replace Anthony Richardson. I would just keep him in until he loses the game and then say, okay, Richardson, you're back. It's your team. I'm just riding the high end.


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[Assistant] Well, real quick on Mike McCarthy, I just want to say with, with, uh, obviously got totally out coached by a first year coach, Cardinals.


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[Assistant] But you look at the Cowboys next three games, they play the Patriots, not completely crazy that they would lose that. Then they play the 49ers, then they play the Chargers. As Wilson would say, there's a path, there's a path that Dallas is two and four going into their week seven bye. And my God, that is going to be a crazy week in Dallas if that happens.


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[Assistant] I think the only argument you could put at five and not, you know, through three weeks, I'm not sure you would want to do it.


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[Assistant] Mike McCarthy coaches a 2-in-1 team. We'll talk about him in the hot seat is maybe Kevin Stefanski because yes, the Browns are 2-in-1, but if they were to go out and lose this week against the Ravens, completely plausible, lose the next game against the 49ers, completely plausible. And now you're 2-in-3.


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[Assistant] Uh, then things would flip pretty quickly in Cleveland, so I think you could make an argument


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[Assistant] You wanted to put Stefanski at five instead of McCarthy.


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[Assistant] Defend, defend, defend hot chicken, defend my verbal breach. I think he overperforms. We're talking about a guy who has never been given a great roster. He's not somebody who has one of these upper echelon quarterbacks. And you know, it's not like Derek Henry is willing them to victory in every single game. Certainly he's played a huge part of that, but you're talking about a coach.


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[Assistant] Who has, what, four winning seasons and five, five full years with the Titans. Uh, obviously one and two this year, but.


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[Assistant] The AFC South is wide open. It's just, they've never had the best roster in the NFL even close. And this is a guy who led this team to a number one seed.


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[Assistant] Just two years ago. I mean, we're only two years removed from the titans being the number one overall seed in the AFC. So I think Vrabel is, yea, I don't think...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, that's absolutely the truth. Unless you have, you look at the 49ers out there producing head coaches on their defensive side of the ball. And it just felt like those were two guys who can motivate. And this is, I mean, this is like the bears are just waiting to get out of this and it stinks to have to let go of a guy when he's only been there for one full season. He's not even.


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[Assistant] Three games into his second season with the team, but man, it does not look like he was the right choice for the job. So this seems like a good spot here.


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[Assistant] It'd be like if we hired Will Brenton and hired Will Farrell just cause we wanted to have a Will to continue to host the podcast.


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[Assistant] Too low at number two. I mean, look, it's crazy just that he has this security blanket of the fact that he was hired by Mark Davis, who I don't think would fire him before three seasons are up. So in a real person's world, like Dom's and the world we live in, this ranking makes a ton of sense, but because


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[Assistant] Davis, uh, just does not going to admit that he made a mistake. It's hard to see McDaniels getting dumped. I think before the end of next season and he would have to go four and 13 in each of the next two seasons.


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[Assistant] It is absolutely difficult. You look at what the Chargers have done this season. If Brandon Staley is not their coach and their coach is just a robot who picks the most optimal decisions, they would be 3-0.


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[Assistant] They lost the Titans in overtime, a game they probably should have won. They lost the Dolphins 36 to 34, which was one of the craziest games of week one. It's already forgotten because of everything the Chargers have done.


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[Assistant] And all this charging and it's just unbelievable when it almost happened again against the Vikings going put on fourth and one from zone 24 and failing.


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[Assistant] It is just wild that Staley just makes all these decisions that keep backfiring in his face. It's just unbelievable that keeps happening. He has horrible luck and also kind of a horrible feel of game flow it seems like.


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[Assistant] It's, the thing is though, like, the chargers are good, and I would like to see Staley succeed. I think he is, uh, it just, it just feels like sometimes he's in over his head.


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[Assistant] We appreciate it, Dom. Well, Dom, do you have any other fun serial killer facts? Oh, okay.


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[Assistant] And you still haven't watched Ninja Turtles on Paramount Plus yet? Y'all not as cool as I thought you would.


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[Assistant] Ninja Turtles is effortlessly cool and crushes for absolutely every age.


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[Assistant] Pretty shocking, the fact that road dogs were 8 and 2 against the spread, like...


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[Assistant] If you, I mean, I didn't do very well on my picks.


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, six, only six teams scored more than 30 points. Um, those teams were the Jacksonville Jaguars. More than 30 or 31. Yep, yep, yep. So the Jacksonville Jaguars scored 31. I'm trying to remember if the Jaguars had.


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[Assistant] 14 points scored in the final five minutes of that game when they were trailing in sort of scramble mode.


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[Assistant] And they had a 52 second punch in by Travis ETN like late in the game. So it's like, you know, I mean, could have easily been under 30. Uh, then you also have the 49ers who scored 30 points.


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[Assistant] I want to say, no, they did not have a defensive score. They just look good on offense. Brock Parry. Look, 49ers looked out in. Nobody's, nobody's questioning that. The Green Bay Packers dropped 38 on the Bears. Bears defense is really bad. They also had, um, a Quay walk, 37 yard interception return.


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[Assistant] So they could have been right at 30, you know, again, like defensive scores makes a little bit of a difference there. Miami had 36. That was just the game of the week. Yeah. Total shootout between two offenses who were ahead of the curve. Uh, you had the Los Angeles Rams who scored 30 as everyone, everyone predicted, um,


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[Assistant] But the Cowboys being the other one before you jump in everywhere, they had two defensive scores or two defensive, right? So that's 14 points where, so you would, you know, you'd probably score 26 if not for that. So it's like, if you look at it, even the teams that got to 30.


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[Assistant] There were only a couple that were like, like, all right, these officers were really, really clicking.


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[Assistant] I would also add too that I think, look, uh, the Rams is week one. You don't want to overreact.


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[Assistant] Rams are probably not going to score 30 points a week and be this dominant offense without Cooper Cup and you know, um,


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[Assistant] With, with all this, but like the one bet that I, that I, that I was on, that I feel like, man, I need to look and see if the odds are back up for defensive player of the year. But Aaron Donald was a force of nature against the Seahawks.


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[Assistant] And this is sort of the argument that I was making about 25 to 1 coming into the season for the three times, three times, is he three or four? He's one of the bunch. Uhm, like this dude is the best defensive player.


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[Assistant] Of our lifetimes, like since, like Lawrence Taylor is the only other guy that like, I think comes close to what Aaron Donald's done. JJ Watt, right in the same mix, our colleague JJ Watt, but like Aaron Donald,


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[Assistant] When he, he can single-handedly transform a defense and destroy an offensive's game plan. And he did that against Seattle. And I really think that.


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[Assistant] People are sort of treating it like, oh, did he go, is he over the hill because of last year? But in reality, he just missed time because the ramp shut him down because the season was over. Like he didn't need to miss all that time. He could have played. And I think, I think all of that talk.


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[Assistant] He used to think the cameras were all over him at the end of that game and he was walking around and he was like, he had a very much a, Oh, you thought Aaron Donald was gone and I am not gone. I am here. And if he plays 17 games.


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[Assistant] That defense doesn't have to have all the talent in the world because he can single handedly disrupt an offensive game plan. And I thought Matthew Stafford looked really good too. You know, the MVP.


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[Assistant] You know, the, the Aaron Donald stuff, like if Aaron Donald and Matthew Stafford get a full season and play the way they played in week one, the Rams are a lot more, they're still the second best team in the division at best, but they're a lot more dangerous than people thought. Were there any other teams, uh, Katie, any team that you thought where you were like, oh,


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[Assistant] You could maybe argue there's a little bit of value here with the Giants. Um, I know that, uh, if you, if you go to sportsline.com and you can use promo code pick to get your first month for a dollar. Um, RJ white, uh, who does our picture with us on, on Thursdays has an article up where he, he says like, here's what I, how my power ratings would have the lines. And I, and I'm not going to, we're not going to give them all away, but it's like,


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[Assistant] The Giants, he has the Giants minus seven at the Cardinals. The actual line is Giants minus four and a half and that's probably in large part reactionary to the Cardinals looking pretty good and the Giants looking like absolute crap. Uh, Alex, do you think there's any value there in taking the Giants against an Arizona team that, I mean,


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[Assistant] All due credit for the effort they put forward, but like I still have to ask like, you know, is this a good football team?


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[Assistant] Emory, I believe you also had, yeah, yeah, yeah. Emory, you had this actually as one of the best bets you sent in. So my bad for throwing it, throwing it the opposite way, but you get the point. Right. You want me to do it now or you want me to wait?


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[Assistant] Uh, Alex, I'm curious what, uh, your thoughts on, uh, specifically Jameer Gibbs here because I thought he looked awesome against the Chiefs. Uhm, didn't see a ton of snaps.


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[Assistant] Minimal, minimal playing time relative to like what we sort of expected. They, they lead on David Montgomery and Dan Campbell came out after the game and basically said, yeah, it's his first game. We want to see him. Wanted him to get some live action, get some reps and we're going to crank up his usage here. Do you think there's going to be value? And it's too early in the week because


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[Assistant] We're not going to see these props released until later in the week, but do you think there's potentially value here? Uh, one, either in that futures market, maybe Gibbs is number, uh, we'd have to go look what it is for rookie of the year, but like probably down past 10 to one after that usage. And then two, um, will you be eyeing any props with, uh, with Gibbs in this game? And how do you feel about the, the, the lions minus five and a half overall?


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[Assistant] I mean, this is a huge line, like spread movement in terms of, and I think it's interesting to kind of inform, um,


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[Assistant] A talking point here and I know this is, it's going to be a short lived talking point because we're recording this on Monday. It's like about 2 30 PM in the afternoon and the games at eight o'clock at night, right? The Monday night football game between the Jets and the Bills can be an awesome game. Um, you know, no matter, even if it's like a blowout, it's still like the hype for this game is, is, is so worth it.


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[Assistant] You have the, you have a team and I point this out because the Lions on the look ahead line in week two were like minus two and a half as Katie noted, right? Versus the Seahawks.


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[Assistant] Sea Orcs lose to the Rams, Lions upset the Chiefs, and you get this massive three-point jump. Well, the Raiders versus the Bills, the Bills are minus nine and a half right now.


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[Assistant] If the bills go into New York, or New Jersey as it were, and whip up on the Jets, this line is going to jump above ten.


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[Assistant] Katie and they come out and they dominate, you know, you're going to see this line move and you won't be able to get the bills at under 10. It'll get closer to maybe even 11. And I think, um,


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[Assistant] Again, not to give away the, the, you know, the thing, but you should go check out sportsnet.com and RJ's article. He has the bill as, as, as might as 12 against the Raiders. Um, your, your boy, Jimmy G looked good. Any thoughts on, uh, any thoughts on whether the bill, you would want to jump with the bills now or do you a little hesitant because you think the Jets might win on Monday night?


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[Assistant] We didn't see anything from the Cowboys offense at all, really. Like, you didn't learn anything about the, like, whether positive or negative. Like, you can, you can point it both ways. I don't think you learned anything about it. Uhm, if the Jets, if the Jets offensive line is a major problem against the Bills,


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[Assistant] With the Cowboys pressure, this line is going to creep up past three.


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[Assistant] It's also Monday night, like, do you want to fade Aaron Rodgers? Uhm, alright, we need to take a break. But first, this Sunday, we can't wait!


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[Assistant] So Anthony Richardson banged up at the end of the game. Emory, you know, you're a, you're a, you're a Colts man through and through. Uh, I'm curious whether you were encouraged with your preseason Colts pick, um, by what you saw from


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[Assistant] Anthony Richardson in that game, that offense, and if how concerned you are for Richardson, you know, getting hurt in his first game as the starter, uh, with all the rushing attempts under Shane Steichen.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, the interesting thing is, I'll say this too on the, I think the Jaguars, I like that, Emory, uh, the long haul. I think the, I think,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like definitely encouraged by Anthony Richardson. You know, he had, we said this on the recap show, but like he had his ups and he had his downs. He's going to have those. That's just the type of player he's going to be. This is not going to be a guy with a consistent floor where, you know, he does it like he's going to be real high, real low. Uhm, the Jaguars.


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[Assistant] I thought the Colts had every, about everything, like that was sort of the Jaguar Super Bowl, or the Colts Super Bowl, like home opener, rookie quarterback.


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[Assistant] The fact that the Jaguars still scored 31 points, Trevor Lawrence look fantastic and still got the win on the road in week one against it. It's like exactly where the Colts have always lost to the Jaguars. Um, I would, I would suggest that like, I think the Jaguars hype and like the Trevor Lawrence MVP stuff is still very much worth a look. Um,


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[Assistant] Of note, uh, Lawrence, still at 15-1 at DraftKings for, for MVP. Two would talk about a little of a tie now with Patrick Mahomes for the, at 7-1 for MVP.


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[Assistant] I don't play the whole season, the bird plus seven 50, which is not great. You know, I mean, this is fine. Josh Allen, eight 50 Jalen hurts 11 to one, Justin Herbert, 12 to one. Um, you know, Justin feels drops down a little bit. We see Jordan love and Brock party all the way in the forties up now.


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[Assistant] Sean Watson, 25 to 1. I just think the fact that Lawrence played as well as he did, and I thought he played really well and didn't move up, uh, props. I tend to think Lawrence is a pretty good look at MVP still at 15 to 1.


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[Assistant] Should probably go ahead and just point out too, just to get it out of the way that I think that the Chief's Jaguar is over under 51.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's going to be hot as sin down there in Jacksonville for the Chiefs having to deal with it. But I didn't think that like the way that these defenses looked in week one, like Indy was able to move the ball pretty effectively. Travis Kelsey probably back.


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[Assistant] Uh, Chris Jones probably not back and the Chiefs defense, you know, didn't do a great job against Detroit, right? And I think Jacksonville is a much more, not a much, much better offense. Detroit's a really good offense. Um, I think we could see a track meet here between these two teams. The weather being the one thing that would worry me. The line hasn't moved up a ton. Um, still just 50, it's still just 51.


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[Assistant] It's hard to see a number of 51 in week two that's going to go flying up. Um, but I would lean towards the over in this one, uh, for this week, although.


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[Assistant] I, you know, you gotta be a little cautious betting that type of over because if you're betting it on Monday, like how many points is it going to go? It's not going to close at like 54, I don't think. And you don't want to deal with like injuries throughout the week. So that's just, just a thought there on Jacksonville and.


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[Assistant] I mean, I was, I was surprised too, like the Vikings, um,


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[Assistant] The Vikings had a 10 to 3 lead, uh, sort of getting close to half. And then Mike Evans catches a touchdown for Baker Mayfield. They go to half tide.


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[Assistant] Justin Jefferson 136 receiving guards in the first half and finished with 150. Like, what are you doing?


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[Assistant] Like, feed Justin Jefferson. You know, like the offense looked way, and don't get me wrong, like Jordan, uh, oh yeaah, and Addison had that, it was, yeaah, such time was in the first half. And, and, and Jefferson looked a little frustrated. I'll be curious to see how they attacked that too, with like Darius Slay in there. Uh, Slay obviously had that pick six against the, the Patriots.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I think, uh, this is an interesting one from, what is the Eagles offense? Like, is the Eagles offense? Like, is it?


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[Assistant] What are we going to come away from on Thursday saying about the Eagles offense relative to, uh, relative to this past week? Because I think it's possible that we'll say, oh, the Eagles offense is still very good.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the, the, I don't think we learned anything. It's like you stop the bucks from running the ball. It's like, that's congrats. Thank you. Congratulations.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's fine. It's, it's a Monday. It's, it's, it's week one. So it's like, it's just like NFL teams, it's still like the preseason for the, for podcasting. Um, it's all, we've mentioned the Dolphins at two, at two of eight, seven to one now to win the MVP. Um, that's a firm fade for me at seven to one. Get you a great week one.


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[Assistant] Two of you can get involved in the mix, but like seven to one time with Patrick Mahomes, especially when


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[Assistant] He's heading to Foxborough to play the Patriots who again, like I'm not trying to, like I picked the, I picked the Patriots to beat the Eagles. They didn't. Almost did.


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[Assistant] It was a lot closer than I think even the final score indicates because the, you know, the Eagles had that short field. They had to pick six from Darius Slay and it's like two games, two instances where, um, one, like you could have, um, you know, like,


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[Assistant] I love the Patriots catching two and a half from the Dolphins here. You know, the Dolphins are traveling across the country.


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[Assistant] You're going to Foxborough, a place where, like, I mean, you know, Belichick, I think, I think Bill Belichick is a lot more confident in his team than he, like, I think his confidence level is a lot higher than we expected. I thought Mac Jones was really good in the second half of that, after, after that slow start, looked really good in that game against an Eagles defensive, you know.


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[Assistant] Look, Phantio is a great coordinator. Uhm, you know, the Dolphins definitely have, uh, the ability to, to cause problems, but the Chargers ran all over them.


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[Assistant] And the Patriots run game should be able to get going this one and then Max should get some play action looks. Uh, Bill O'Brien, a very, very, very, very clear upgrade over Matt Patricia, which we all knew. Um, I like the Patriots catching two and a half. I think this should probably be closer to a, uh, pick them. Anybody have thoughts on, on, on, on what we saw from the Patriots defense?


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[Assistant] So, so here's, here's sort of my take on getting the three with the Panthers. And if you look on the, if you're watching the YouTube, you can see that it's saying to minus three at minus one 15. So you can actually see that creep up a little bit. And if you're getting three and a half, I really liked the Panthers, obviously. But, um, Carolina, Carolina didn't.


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[Assistant] Carolina didn't look great. Bryce Young had two really bad picks against, uh, the Jesse Bates, uh, snare. But my, my take here is that I'm a little, I'm wondering like,


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[Assistant] I mean, the Saints put up 16 points, like Ryan Tano at 16 or 34 for 198 yards and three interceptions with no touch. Like you can't play a much worse game than that. And the Saints won by one point.


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[Assistant] Like, and I don't think that we think the Titans defense is necessarily like, I mean, I think it could.


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[Assistant] The question is, where do we think the Titans defense and where do we think the Falcons defenses are? So my hypothesis here on taking the three points of the Panthers is that I think the Falcons defense is better than people expect, um, and will be better. That's sort of adjusting the prior, like, alright, you know, I like the Falcons coming in. I really like the Falcons now. I think that defense can be really good.


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[Assistant] And then the Titans, if the defense is, if the defense is that good, like I think the Panthers and Titans defenses can be comparable.


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[Assistant] And I don't know that this, I don't think that the, like the performance from Tana Hill and Henry is necessarily about the Saints defense. Could be wrong. You know, you're now traveling on the road to Carolina. Um, I think the Panther Stadium should be rocking with a, you know, with first, first home, first look for this fan base at Bryce Young. I thought Bryce Young looked good.


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[Assistant] You definitely have some concerns about, um, the two interceptions he threw, but generally speaking, I think maybe getting three is a home dog there, three and a half. Uh, I'll take that with the Panthers thinking, keep it closer than people expect. Speaking of.


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[Assistant] And, and Kenny Pickett and the Steelers, and the Steelers offense did not. So that's a big red flag. I understand the love for Cleveland. I'm just inclined to take the points with like an overreaction from both sides here that Cleveland's awesome and Pittsburgh stinks because of the matchups that they had.


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[Assistant] I always get these all mixed up, but it's like, cause like Sean McVay kind of owns Pete Carroll, but


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[Assistant] I feel like he's gotten him like, I feel like he's gotten the most of him pretty regularly.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, like the Niners do really, really well against the Rams and that's like some of that is just like Kowshianian knows what Sean McVay is going to do and like there's just a familiarity with it. Uhm, I would.


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[Assistant] I'd be curious, what would the look ahead line be like before the Rams won?


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[Assistant] I don't think it was like spiked up that much because the 49ers were so dominant, right? I would be, I would probably be, it's at the Rams.


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[Assistant] I'm a little, I'm a little scared. I mean, I'm going to end up taking the Rams cause I'm just going to lean into my personal narrative, but I'm a little scared at seven that that's too many points.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's that the 49ers just might be that team this year and that they're going to come in and absolutely dominate. I think that's probably like my biggest concern.


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[Assistant] Elsewhere in, uh, it was sort of NFC West news.


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[Assistant] The commanders who played in NFC West team.


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[Assistant] Uh, Alex, you, uh, you have a, you have a, you like the commanders here getting three and a half?


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[Assistant] I, I, I lean towards the commanders here, two, three and a half. I think that's more likely to get inside the three. Uh, you know, look, September games in Denver can always be tough, but, um, the, like, Denver's defense didn't do anything to inspire me. And certainly, um, their offense was.


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[Assistant] Last week we ranked Taylor Swift songs and NFL teams. Who knows what we'll rank tomorrow. TBD.


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[Assistant] Uh, we're going to do bold predictions today, which is a staple podcast. David Taze will obviously know that we do bold predictions before the season. Um, and then of course we, and I believe Katie, this is your first bold prediction. Oh, by the way, uh,


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[Assistant] I'm going to do this without permission from the other two here, but we're going to induct you as a super friend. Congratulations.


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[Assistant] Yes, yes, that is correct. We finally gave in and just went back to pick six and then they gave us branding and they said keep firing your bold predictions, which is what we're going to do. By the way, um,


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[Assistant] Ryan Wilson, when he's looking, look how confident and calm and cool and happy he is because he spends his time peacocking around Mobile, Alabama with Rick Spielman, his new BFF. Talk about a glow up.


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[Assistant] You went from me to Rick Spielman. Wow. I mean, sure. I'm better looking and like in way better shape, but he was an NFL GM. So you got that for you. Oh,


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[Assistant] We're getting to the ball predictions. Wilson, we're going to let you go first because I'm assuming that you have some sort of.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Locked in. Pre-season's over buddy. Get, get, get, get with it. Uhm, in my, I'm looking at this in Prism, our content management system.


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[Assistant] One of the things I have written down for my 10 bold predictions I will be publishing next week is Steelers win the AFC North.


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[Assistant] Okay, uh, from a grading perspective, uh, I'll go first here on this bold grading because that boy, I mean like.


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[Assistant] Katie has never had to deal with grading a bowl prediction before and you threw a three part AFC North Steelers bowl prediction.


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[Assistant] I, I mean, I, so I'm going to give you a 7.7.


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[Assistant] Andy, that's an homage to Ben Roethlisberger. The only reason it's not higher, Ryan, it's a 10 out of 10 boldness.


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[Assistant] But you're getting a 7.7 because you have basically have to hit like a insane three game parlay where not only does TJ Watt win defensive player of the year, the Steelers win the division, but Kenny Pickett is better than Lamar Jackson and Deshaun Watson and or Joe Burrow.


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[Assistant] Drew Densick, uh, who works, it does work at, uh, with the deep dive podcast and also at NBC sports edge.


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[Assistant] Uh, good, buddy of mine has been for months said that a good bet. I'm trying to find what the number is here. It is 40 to one. Now it was 55 to one Steelers most wins in the NFL. He likes that as a bad, really sharp guy.


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[Assistant] All right. Do you want me to breach? I know you're listed like, you know, I'm going to go ahead and jumpy breach. I'm going to leapfrog you here because I mentioned, I'm just going to, I'm like, look, Wilson came out of the gate swinging. I'm coming out of the gate swinging to the Atlanta Falcons. We'll finish.


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[Assistant] 55 to 1. That's my, that's my bold prediction. Great.


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[Assistant] You know, I was looking at my old bowl predictions. I actually found one from 2018 where I said that Patrick Mahomes would lead the NFL in passing yards.


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[Assistant] And he threw for 5,000 passing yards and 50 touchdowns, but Big Ben beat him.


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[Assistant] It's a 9.5. It's a great, it's a great, it's great. It's quintessential breach. It is totally realistic. He's in an offensive where all.


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[Assistant] Uh, like just dumping on Mike McCarthy because of the killing one lap scoreboard. I just want to run a damn ball. But when Mike McCarthy calls plays, like Aaron Rodgers was awesome. They got a good offensive line. He's going to feed CD lamb offense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like, and that defense, I think, I think, I picked the Cowboys to win that division. I think this is a quintessential breechy and bold prediction. 9.5.


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[Assistant] Well, it's also like he's the Cowboys quarterback and there felt like unnecessary weird gruesome injuries. So it's like sticks in your brain. You know what I mean? Like that, like the bone, he had a bone sticking out of his leg on that injury against the giants that when he played five games in 2020. So.


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[Assistant] Technically they could get the one seed and get a buy and loot, right? Well, she's saying they make it to the NFC Championship game. No, no, within one game.


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[Assistant] There's some breaching vibes to it too, where it's like... Did you give an official grade or you just yelling out numbers, Brenton? 8.975.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I mean, put that in context. So like, I actually thought the number would be a lot lower or a lot higher. Excuse me. Like the Steelers are five to one to win the AFC North and the Bears are seven to one to losing the divisional round. Like that's kind of.


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[Assistant] I also have, look, I mean, I know you think I'm making this up, but I've got it in my.


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[Assistant] In my PRISM article that will be published next week, bold predictions. Sam Darnold has more starts this year than Brock Purdy.


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[Assistant] My next one is Sam Howell.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think that's a really good one. My next one.


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[Assistant] The Jaguars. My Jacksonville Jaguars. Shout out Duvall!


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[Assistant] Finish as the number one seed in the AFC.


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[Assistant] And the bills, and the jets. I think the bills are. And the chargers.


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[Assistant] So Billy's got the odds up here too, from DraftKings. They're 14 to one to win the AFC. I believe they're, I think they're 10 to one.


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[Assistant] At Caesars, it could be 14 to 1. They tend to want to be the one seed at Caesars, which is where I found that.


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[Assistant] This is quintessential Wilson too, like Breach does these things where he couches them, where it's like, there's a loophole where he could sneak through and Wilson's like, not only will Jordan Love be better than Aaron Rodgers, but Justin Jefferson will also have 2000.


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[Assistant] There's quintessential breach. There are so many loopholes here. Yeah, there's the jets and the bills are really good. And the Patriots, it's great.


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[Assistant] And the reason we asked that is because we had an editor who...


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[Assistant] It was 12 because remember Derek Carr broke his leg. They already won 12 and they lost because Derek Carr broke his leg.


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[Assistant] And they ended up with 12 exactly. It was the weirdest. We can't.


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[Assistant] I think 15, nobody's getting hurt.


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[Assistant] Like legit, like you might like, I mean, the AFC is stacked. Alright, so let me change your Jaguars.


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[Assistant] All right, what's next? What's next? Moral predictions, but first we're going to take a break.


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[Assistant] So, do you want me to or do you want to?


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[Assistant] Uh, Tuesday will be me, John Breach.


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[Assistant] And they're dragging some dude who does a draft podcast in to help out.


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[Assistant] Podcast David Taze will know the Sunday Night Recap Show.


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[Assistant] Ryan Wilson is going to be lead anchor for Sunday nights and he will guide us through two and a half hours of recap coverage every Sunday


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[Assistant] Okay. I got, so this is, uh, I'm just looking at the clock. We're probably, we're, we're, we're probably done after three, right? Yeah. Breach has got to do HQ.


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[Assistant] That's a good point. And I'm only asking you this because you are the junior NFL draft analyst for CBSSports.com and host of the With the First Pick podcast with Rick Spielman.


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[Assistant] Is, like, it's a serious question actually. With, uh, Stroud's, like, draft profile, did he hold the ball a ton? Or, like, is he, you know what I'm saying? Because Watson would always hold the ball really long.


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[Assistant] How many stacks do you have to have?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but the fact that your draft like evaluation of him says he gets the ball out quickly is what's dragging the gray down. So 7.7.


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[Assistant] Okay, go ahead. That would be quite, that would be quite the juxtaposition. Okay. I will, speaking of MVP, I'll go next.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, that would be, that would be incredible. Y'all are close. They're good guesses. However, my bold prediction is that Matthew Stafford receives at least one MVP vote in 2023. Okay.


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[Assistant] You have to list five players. It was last year too, you had to list five players. This is the second you're doing it. You have to list your five, one through five.


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[Assistant] I'm used to low scores and wins. That's what we do around here. Low scores and W's.


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[Assistant] By the way, there's a very bizarre Stetson Bennett, uh, UGA hive out there where if you make a Stetson Bennett's old joke, they will come after you.


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[Assistant] Seven reverse price is right. I do think that the interesting plot twist here is if Taylor is traded or doesn't play for the Colts.


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[Assistant] It only re- like it actually enhances his chances of winning because like it increases the difficulty level.


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[Assistant] Justin Herbert, Cam Newton won six in one rookie of the year. Justin Herbert won six in one rookie of the year. Quarterback, you should have to win six games. Go under your win total for the year, six and a half. No Jonathan Taylor, six wins.


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[Assistant] Very doable. And you've been hammering that at nine. Is it nice to play it down? You may, you may have moved that number. Okay.


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[Assistant] If I guess, if I guess his exact season yardage total for his rookie season, look, hands up. Will you raise all of my grades by 0.5?


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[Assistant] That they were recording this. No, no, no. He has a podcast with Omaha like moxie. I thought he was leaving the ringer.


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[Assistant] No, he's not. No, kids up on your stuff, bro. The article is up at the ringer.com about Mike Vrabel. And also you can watch and listen to Moxibets.


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[Assistant] And Omaha productions. Yes. Property. Correct.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing about this one too. It's classic breach.


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[Assistant] He oversells it to make it sound like it's an impossibility. This could never happen. It's Homerific because it involves.


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[Assistant] But in traditional fashion, I will give you credit here, Breach. I'll give you.


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[Assistant] If you can answer, I will give you a 9.5. You can tell me how many touchdowns Mike variable caught in his NFL career. Eight.


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[Assistant] The article though is on the ringer.com. So L on me love Kevin Clark. Congrats, Kevin.


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[Assistant] Okay. Okay. Well, Wilson and breach before we get out of here. Let's give Katie mocks a grade for her first bowl prediction show. I must say 9.9.


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[Assistant] I'm seeing the performance on the ball. Nine nine. Now you have to go lower. You see I was going to go 10 but okay, I'll go 10.


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[Assistant] Friday, the community here in Pittsburgh rallying around you. It's my turn to return the favor.


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[Assistant] You get away from football for a little bit and then you start missing and you get the edge again.


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[Assistant] For me that first catch is everything. Once I get one catch I'm in the zone.


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[Assistant] We can't wait. Can't wait. We can't wait. We can't wait.


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[Assistant] I think it's better, honestly, and Brady can speak to this, especially as a veteran player, right?


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[Assistant] You talked about it, Will, uh, when there was four preseason games, there was kind of a gradual cut. It would be, I think, a cut to 85, then a cut to 80, and then you cut to 53, right? Uhm, but in totality, if you look at this thing, right?


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[Assistant] That last preseason game, most frontline guys aren't playing. So if you're a guy fighting on a roster,


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[Assistant] You're playing all offensive defense. You're playing all special teams with no break. Nobody's coming to help you out.


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[Assistant] So to me, it never made sense because there was guys that


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[Assistant] teams were depending on in that last preseason game that would get hurt because they were out there because they couldn't rest them because they didn't have the numbers to rest guys. So it always made sense for me to always carry 90 all the way through


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[Assistant] That way you also give guys an extra opportunity to put game film out there if they don't make the 53 man roster. Cause like they always say there's 31 other teams watching this film, right? So.


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[Assistant] I love that they changed that rule and made it 90 all the way through to the end of cuts. Because again, why would you want to put some guy that you're going to depend on at risk that last preseason game if you don't have to?


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[Assistant] I mean, but, rosters, and Brady will speak to this too, the rosters won't be final until probably that Wednesday before kickoff, to be honest with you, uhm, because the waiver wire, right, people are gonna get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get


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[Assistant] Because I've been there before and I think, I think the rule is that Saturday night, Brady, if I'm not mistaken, if you're on that roster, then you're set for the year. And what, what you'll see is you'll see a lot of veterans release right now and you'll see a wave of free agency week two going into the season because of what Brady spoke about, right?


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[Assistant] Your, your, your, your money's not guaranteed if you're a vested veteran, if you're not on opening day roster. So a lot of teams, what they'll do.


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[Assistant] Like you said, well, some gamesmanship. They'll cut vet veterans that are vested and bring them in a week too, which I think is a terrible thing, obviously, but.


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[Assistant] What we were talking about before, like teams trying to stash young players on their roster. You see, I mean, even the Jets are doing it right now, right? They, they, they cut their pointer.


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[Assistant] Thomas Moore said they're going to definitely bring him back, but they got, you know, a couple of undrafted free agent rookie receivers that they're nervous about putting out there on waivers and getting claimed by somebody else. So these kids are probably thinking I made the roster. No, like Brady said, wait till Saturday.


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[Assistant] Night, that's when you start to feel a little bit more comfortable that you made the roster because.


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[Assistant] You can still get cut all the way up until game. I've seen it. I've been on teams where guys literally got cut on that Friday, two days before game day thinking they were going to be on the 53 man roster. And also the waiver wire plays a role in this, right? Teams are going to put claims in for guys. And if they're rewarded guys.


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[Assistant] You can't have 56 guys on your active roster, right? So if you, you, you know, claim three guys and rewarded three guys, three guys have to go.


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[Assistant] So again, this is just the beginning of it. There's always a little gamesmanship and tinkering with the roster. Again, I said the Jets, they cut their punter. They definitely need a punter for the season. Thomas Morse, that's going to be their guy, but it was so they could keep, you know, three of those rookie receivers on the roster.


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[Assistant] With Jerry Jones, nothing surprises me anymore. Honestly, it's Jerry's world. He does what he wants to do. He doesn't answer to anybody. Um, I mean, Brady, this guy came out I think today or yesterday and was like, Jalen hurts had fell in the draft. I was going to take him. I mean, it lets you know how Jerry Jones thinks. So anything he does doesn't surprise me actually. And you might be surprised.


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[Assistant] My biggest surprise was that they were able to actually get a fourth round pick for him.


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[Assistant] I thought it was going to be a six, seven round pick. Cause again, you talked about the sample size, hasn't played that much. He already had, you know, deficiency issues going into the draft, right? There was a lot of work he was going to have to do. A lot of groundwork was going to have to be laid for him to be an elite quarterback in the NFL. He didn't play it all really that much at North Dakota state. So.


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[Assistant] He didn't have a lot of experience, so I'm not surprised they moved on.


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[Assistant] I mean, if you look at the Shanahan Tree and what they've done with other quarterbacks, they move on and they keep it pushing, right? They believe in their system, that West Coast offense, Shanahan offense, they believe that they could put somebody in and they could play at a high level if they, if they live within the system. I think that's what they found were Brock Purdy. So.


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[Assistant] Uh, kudos to them for realizing, I'm not going to say it was a bad pick because again, like you said, Brady, we haven't really seen much of Trey Lance. So it's, it's hard to gauge. Could he actually have been a really good quarterback in the NFL?


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[Assistant] But they felt like they got their quarterback of the future in Brock Purdy and they got him in the last pick of the draft.


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[Assistant] And for seven games, plus what it was a two playoff games, uh, they felt like they got their guy. So they were willing to move on. So I think them getting the fourth round pick to me was more surprising than anything. Cause I honestly thought trail lands was going to go for like a six or seven round pick.


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[Assistant] And yeah, I was actually there, Brady. So the intention was the trade grew up below the next year. If, if you read into it, like Kyle was high on Kurt Cousins. He wanted Kurt Cousins to come and play in that office because Kurt was going to be free the next year.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's, I think he's more annoyed than anything. We were talking about Jerry Jones earlier and I think this was just some gamesmanship. Uh, you talked about it real. He's got a ridiculous cap number next year. I think it's near $60 million. Yep.


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[Assistant] Brady, we'll honestly think this is a massive year for that press guy. I would not be surprised if the Dallas Cowboys don't probably win a game in the playoffs and win a divisional game in the playoffs. He could potentially be traded next year.


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[Assistant] I honestly could see that because if you're Jerry Jones, right? You look at the rest of the roster, it's championship ready, right? When you, when you look at the defense, right? When you look at the old line, when it's healthy, right? And Zach Martin back in the fold.


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[Assistant] You feel like you have championship type receivers, championship secondary. The one caveat and question mark is Dak Prescott. Let's not forget this guy had seven straight games to close out the year with an interception.


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[Assistant] Two pivotal interceptions in a divisional round in a defensive battle versus San Francisco 49ers that cost them that game. So this is a massive year. And if you look at the history of DAC, he usually doesn't turn the ball over like that.


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[Assistant] But what worries me is that he's talked about it all off season. So you know, it's in the back of his mind, right? So I think this is a massive season. I think this was gamesmanship.


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[Assistant] I look at it like this, right? And Brady, I think you broke that down beautifully. If, if they, and I suggested this too, I think with a new system coming in with Shane Steichen, if they just want to gave him like a sweetener this year and then maybe reassess this after this year or as far as an extension, once you see how Jonathan Taylor fits into the scheme,


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[Assistant] I think both parties would have been able to come to an agreement, right? I said this Austin Eckler did it with the LA Chargers, right? They gave him a one year sweetener, right? Just to make him a little bit happy because we know that he was a, you know, a touchdown machine in the red zone last year. He didn't have the rushing numbers, but he had the receptions and he always finished in the end zone.


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[Assistant] I thought that that was something that the coats and Jim or say could potentially work out. But again, when you talk about saying, you know, if I'm, you know, no longer here and you're no longer in football, the game moves on.


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[Assistant] Like as players, yeah, you take it per, it's a business, but you take that personally, right? Because you're literally putting yourself in harm's way each play to go out there and play for your organization. So.


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[Assistant] The running back market is what it is. Like there was rumors supposedly he wanted up to $14 million a year. That was never going to happen. Right. Um, but I thought if the coast just maybe gave him a sweetener this year, they could have rectify it. But what I said the whole time was I felt like Jonathan Taylor wasn't going anywhere. I mean, I think Jim Ursay and Chris Ballard were pretty upfront saying that.


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[Assistant] Something was probably most likely gonna have to blow them away to make a trade, right? As far as compensation. Uh, supposedly the Miami Dolphins actually made a pretty good offer, but it wasn't enough for them. So I always thought he was going to be Indianapolis Coast. Now the thing that is concerning.


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[Assistant] Is that he stays on a pup list, right? And now he's going to miss the first four games of the season. So.


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[Assistant] You being on a pop list, John, it doesn't really help help you in the future in regards to getting a new deal, right? Because you're already coming off the ankle injury. You missed six games last year.


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[Assistant] Now, if they don't franchise tag you next year, which they still can do.


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[Assistant] If a team wants to pay you, they're going to probably lowball you because you're coming off that ankle injury and you didn't even play the first four games of the season. And who knows Brady, maybe he uses his ankle thing as an issue going forward and decides to sit out even more games.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would advise against that just because again, it's not like you're going to gain any more leverage by not playing this year. You're not going to get a bigger contract next year while they're in play. And if you look at the history of saying it's like in his offense running back to back career years ago, what my Sanders did last year.


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[Assistant] You got over 1,300 yards, right? Wrestling in this, Shane's taking off. And so you got Anthony Richardson in the backfield for you. I think that opens the game up for you as far as running downhill. Holes will be there. Lanes will be there.


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[Assistant] Linebackers and defense events, they have to respect Anthony Richardson, keeping the ball in that RPO in the zone read game. So.


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[Assistant] If I was advising him and it seems like his agent has handled this awfully as well too, right? Like when it was three o'clock, Brady, I would have been on the phone with my agent like,


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[Assistant] I thought this was amazing by Josh Jacobs, right? A lot of people assumed that he was going to show up right before the season, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, be able to get almost $2 million more when Saquon essentially signed this same franchise tag because there's no way he's hitting those incentives. They're like ridiculous. I don't think Saquon even gets close to those incentives.


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[Assistant] Uh, actually drafted Josh Jacobs because they gave him this sweetener, which lets you know they're probably going to use them a lot like they did last year, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, I thought this was masterful by him, you know, not being able to put all that wear and tear on your body during training camp and showing up and to get this sweetener right before the season. And Brady, we know it's for veterans. If you get two solid weeks of practice, you're probably hit the ground running when the season starts. So he came in right on time. He'll get two weeks of work.


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[Assistant] Without getting to wear and tear on his body. And I look like, I think he's going to have another monster day. I know, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo is there, but I think they're still going to run the ball. They still got Devontae Adams there. We'll see what happens, you know, at the trade deadline with him. Supposedly there's been some rumors.


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[Assistant] I think Will Lutz to the Denver Broncos. For one, I was surprised that New Orleans Saints even parted ways with him. He's just done it at a high level for so many years.


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[Assistant] We know Sean Payton has familiarity with him coming from the New Orleans Saints, but, uh, I was going to talk about this in the beginning of the show. Like that kicker market is on fire right now. We got guys getting traded left and right teams calling about kickers and Brady. I was talking about this in the studio today. Like.


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[Assistant] That's the one position I would say besides quarterback that has the most pressure. Like again, they're never with the team. They're always on the sideline and playing ping pong, Brady.


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[Assistant] Right, so like, that's a high-pressure position and...


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[Assistant] You were talking about this earlier, like why would you draft the kicker? Just, you know, you know, get an undrafted free agent guy, let them compete in training camp. Whoever wins, you know, that's who you make is your kicker because we saw Kate York get cut and he was a draft pick. We've seen multiple kickers get cut as, you know, third, fourth, fifth round draft picks.


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[Assistant] So, uh, the kicker market is strange, right? Cause there's teams that don't even have kickers right now. There's teams calling about kickers. And then we've saw, we saw that what three or four kickers get traded already.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm a defensive lineman. No, it was Von Miller. We expected Kyle Murray most likely to be on the PUP list. I honestly don't think he even plays this year because say he's healthy around week seven, eight or nine and they're one in eight.


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[Assistant] Is he really going back out there now? Granted he might, right? Because he wants to prove that he could be the guy and they could build around them because if they pick number one overall, most likely they're going to take Caleb Williams. But then what do you do with Kyler Murray's contract? But mom Miller to me makes more sense just because once he got hurt, I think it was like week 10, you saw a massive drop off.


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[Assistant] As far as, you know, the Buffalo Bills are creating havoc getting to the quarterback. Like nobody was even close to creating pressure once Von Miller got hurt. Greg Russo looked really good in the beginning of the year with Von Miller on the other side, but soon as Von got hurt.


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[Assistant] Greg Russo disappeared. I mean, Ed Oliver got this big contract, uh, hasn't really lived up to that first round billing yet as far as.


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[Assistant] And he's a consistently really good edge player, right? He's a guy that gets around eight and a half sacks every single year, but he's not Vaughn Miller, right? So it'll be interesting to see how the Buffalo Bills come out on defense. Cause let's not forget Leslie Frazier isn't there anymore.


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[Assistant] Sean McDermott's calling the defense now. A secondary is getting up there in age. Vaughn Miller's up there in age. He's in his mid thirties.


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[Assistant] You know, Father Time is undefeated. We'll see how he bounces back, but I think this could loom large for the Bills in regards to how they play on defense because they've been known as a cover two defense that, you know, gets after it with their front four, but they're multiple in the way that they disguise cover two.


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[Assistant] Now with Sean McDermott coming into the fold and calling plays again, will he maybe add a little bit more pressure because they aren't able to get to the quarterback as good with four. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out for the Buffalo Bills this year.


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[Assistant] And I did the double. That's not you. I did the double. That's all part of the name too.


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[Assistant] The format that we landed on, I do one of these for RT sports, uhm, over the summer.


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[Assistant] And it's a little bit more complicated. You have your same pick.


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[Assistant] Each manager builds a 12 unit portfolio and those unit sizes for each pick are predetermined as laid out in like say win totals. There's a three unit win total, a two unit win total, one unit win total, and then a half unit alternate win total where you can move the line.


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[Assistant] You got playoff wagers, uh, one unit on a make-or-miss playoffs bet, half a unit on a division winners bet, and a quarter unit on a Super Bowl winner bet.


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[Assistant] You got some stat props. You got one unit on a pass, one unit on a rush, one unit on a receiving prop. Those are all yards or touchdown props. And then we get to the awards. You get a quarter unit on your MVP pick and then .1 unit on offensive and defensive player of the year to one each for each of those. One each for offensive defensive rookie of the year.


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[Assistant] The Senator being 12, uhm, the way it's set up is that you can do it at up to 16 if you want to set it up on your own because


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[Assistant] Once a pick is off the board, just like in a fantasy team, nobody else can pick it, so.


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[Assistant] We allowed people to take one side of the over-under on all 32 teams, and that is if the, if the San Francisco over is taken, you can't take the San Francisco alt, alt over either. You know, it's, it takes it off the board. So there's a limited number of picks. So with 4 slots in the win totals, you can do it up to 6 team managers in a draft.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, so unlike a fantasy draft where everybody knows that like the order of teams, if you get the number one pick, everybody kind of knows where you're going. This is completely...


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[Assistant] Out the window, you know, we will see that that different team got picked as a three unit win total on either side of their win total. So uhm, I don't think anybody had any idea where anyone was going in this draft.


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[Assistant] And locking in a minus 105 price, I really believe in for three units. I think really gives me a big edge. It's going to be hard to overcome, especially if these 0.1 unit bets are only hitting for, you know, quarter units or half units. So I think it was really good to get that minus 105 price there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the way you guys feel about the Eagles, I feel about the 49ers, uh, they lost a key coordinator there. Typically they've had a pipeline of coordinators that, that just replaced. Well, this one, this time they went to Steve Wilkes, who is not one of the young up and coming coordinators that have been featured in, in, in on this team in the past. So I don't know.


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[Assistant] Line and that worries me a lot more than the Eagles losses that they've had. So I don't know how sustainable it is. Then we look at the quarterback Brock Purdy.


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[Assistant] Mr. Irrelevant last year for a reason, uhm, is he going to be the next Tom Brady? I don't know.


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[Assistant] Should he have been the number one overall pick after what we saw in five games plus a couple playoff games? I'm not sure we can say that yet. Remember Jimmy Garoppolo won his first five, six, seven games.


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[Assistant] Uhm, they were, because of that high price that Will's talking about, when I moved their alternate win total down one unit,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I really like that KC for your, your highest pick at minus 140. I didn't want to play it there because I was trying to maximize how much I could win. But I do have KCs over 11 and a half in my personal portfolio at minus 120 and that's one of my two highest bets.


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[Assistant] I really think that that's just a lock. If my home doesn't get hurt, they win 12 games every year. Now we're on a 17 game schedule, so it should be even more of a lock to win 12 games every year if my home is healthy. So uhm, I totally understand that that would have been my two unit play if you didn't take them and it was available in the next round.


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[Assistant] Firing away on Seahawks picks in this draft too, so I couldn't get all the ones I wanted, but I really like Seattle this year. I think they're a very deep team, all up and down the roster. I think they have good coordinators that kind of get overlooked. Shane Waldron might be one of the better court, offense coordinators in the league considering the work he's done with Gino Smith, even dating back to the flat Russell Wilson's last season.


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[Assistant] And then everybody says, okay, he didn't play as well in his final five games. Um, but that might not be the, the, the Russell Wilson, I mean the Gino Smith we get this year, the real Gino Smith might be the guy.


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[Assistant] This might be the second best team in the conference, in the, in the, in the conference room. So I have a lot of positive plays in my future portfolio on Seattle, including to win the division. Um, but I told you Kansas City's over was my, one of my biggest plays. My other one is Seattle to make the playoffs at minus 120.


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[Assistant] See, see, I unleashed a monster here because he took this in the middle of round 4 right before I was going to take it with my round 4 pick later in the round. So I ended up taking the division pick you're talking about, but this would have been my round 4 pick. I ended up taking the division winner, uh, Seattle in round 5, so.


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[Assistant] The longest shot play I made on the Seahawks, best record in the league, 40-1. I think that's a possibility.


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[Assistant] Definitely not the first person to take an MVP pick


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[Assistant] We'll get to my favorite one in a sec. I don't think the wards are poor for everyone. I think getting Jalen Hurts anywhere over plus 1000 is great because he should have been the MVP last year if he didn't get hurt. And getting him so far below Mahomes in these odds, that's why I had to make them my first pick of the third round and correlate it with my Eagles overplay. Uhm, I wanted to get him in there. But my favorite one,


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[Assistant] Because those odds were just astronomically higher than any other site and, and I think it's a very realistic proposition for him to open up as the number one receiver in an offense that's going to pass more.


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[Assistant] And if the quarterback struggle a little bit, the rookie quarterback struggle a little bit, don't win a ton of games, it's going to leave the door open for someone else to win it. Bijan is the guy everybody's thinking about.


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[Assistant] But if Zay Flowers is the number one receiver in that offense, and that offense plays really well, there's going to be some talk about him getting it. Uhm, he, by the time I got to Vegas, I was looked at all the odds for him. He was down to 16-1 at the highest. So, I think we got great value when we could at 30-1 for offensive repeat of the year with Zay Flowers.


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[Assistant] I have a little problem with those combo guys like that and McCaffrey just cause the voters like looking at one big number and, and it's just hard to get that those guys to push through. And you'll see, I wanted to lean from, from my pick for offensive player of the year. And I think in the betting market, usually in a receiver because, because the 17 game season, I think somebody's going to hit 2000 yards and set a record pretty soon.


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[Assistant] And uhm, that's just, that guy's just going to win the award. And so I like firing away with some like 30-1 Stefan Diggs. I pick 55-1 Chris Olavi here. Just firing away with some guys that, and try to get the guy that's going to lead the league and receive him because we saw the last two years Jefferson and Pupp.


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[Assistant] So maybe Justin Herbert, I'm thinking Tua, like Tua could put up, you know, a 4,800 yard season if he stays healthy with a bunch of touchdowns and then they win 10 games or, you know, 11 games.


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[Assistant] Right. So you're like, well, we got to honor his like a huge season. So let's give it to him. Um, but we're not making him MVP because he couldn't even win the division. Yeah.


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[Assistant] But we'll see if we can put something together besides notoriety, um, and, and something we can track. But, uh, uh, I, I didn't have any prize in, in mine in particular. It took a month to get this draft over with. So, um, now, now we gotta get ready for the season and we'll figure it out later.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we'll see how they divide things up if everybody's healthy. Cause I know SantDbomb is still on that time too. So that can contribute there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that could be, that could be an issue. When going into this, I figured I was taking three unders. Like I always want to play the unders in these because of injuries and everything.


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[Assistant] And I had my unders all lined up. I had my draft board lined up with all the picks I wanted in the top.


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[Assistant] And then it gets into the draft and then news starts developing and then Joe Mixon's contract situation gets resolved. And I'm like, why is his number only 800 for rushing yards? And I want to get over on that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, my favorite one was the last pick of the draft after looking at what the preseason snap percentages and targets and all that have played out to in Washington and seeing that Sam Howell might not be a zero at quarterback.


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[Assistant] Um, and might even be better, more efficient in the red zone. I think getting five touchdowns is pretty easy. And again, locking in a plus 100 play for these one unit picks, I think was pretty smart. So.


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[Assistant] That was the, I believe, last pick of the draft. So I waited to see how all the preseason stuff, um, shaped out, how depth charts shaped out before I made that pick. And, and that was the one I landed on, uh, as being the best one right now.


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[Assistant] That shows you the state that Will was in because he couldn't make that pick. The reason that A.B. sent it in is because you didn't have that slot open, so he just wanted to keep it going.


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[Assistant] Wishing that I would have had something else there, uhm, but, but that was probably it. I actually correlated that play because I took Detroit's under with them missing the playoffs. I figured in this type of draft where you're just trying to win, you're trying to get the biggest total, why not correlate your plays? So if I, I'm either going to go 2-0 or 0-2 on those picks.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I'm interested to see, I think we're gonna see a better Trey Lance coming off the bench, or excuse me, starting the second half, playing against more twos and threes. I think there's gonna be less pressure on him there. I think he's gonna perform.


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[Assistant] Better. I think Sam Darnold at this stage is kind of more equipped right now.


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[Assistant] I just think there's more confidence in Shanahan, uh, when it comes to Darnold. So I, I do like the switch in kind of going to Trey Lance in the second half. I think that's going to kind of add to his confidence, uh, potentially help him there. And then yeah, as far as Russell's concerned,


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[Assistant] All year for Tennessee, so yeaah, I like Minnesota in this spot as a home dog.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's gonna be tough sledding for this Tampa Bay offense. I have no doubt that Bulls will have this Tampa defense playing well fired up. But yeah, just looking across the offense, Russell Gage out for the season. If you look at this depth chart.


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[Assistant] Fewer than the team members 29th and rushing. So I just have so many question marks for this Tampa Bay offense heading into the season already with significant injuries. I think it's going to be a really, really long year. I just think this offense is really going to struggle to score points all year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm actually really interested in the Eagles running back situation, looking at kind of how their depth chart is playing out. I think it's very unlikely they go into the season with five running backs.


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[Assistant] Tracer and certainly getting a lot of buzz. I'll be paying very close attention to that running back depth chart and this game. I think we'll answer some of those questions tonight.


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[Assistant] For Bryce Young. Offensive line. Definitely looks like it needs to.


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[Assistant] Play with a little more, uh, uh, continuity and they're just a ways away. So yeah, I think it's going to be tough for Bryce Young, especially early in the season, uh, as they kind of, uh, get going and sort of develop him.


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[Assistant] We see, uhm, Allinger and, uhm, Gardner mentioned you take the field either.


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[Assistant] I am in deep rinse and yeah, I've been quietly behind the scenes waiting for this Texans team to kind of secretly hope in this Texans team was finally kind of pointed in the right direction. I am officially ready to anoint this Texans team.


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[Assistant] in the right direction. I think they're going to be competitive. I think they're going to win six to seven games, which is a big improvement for them. Uh, I just think they're significantly improved roster across the board. I really like the draft. I like the off scene as in as well. I think they're trying to build


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[Assistant] As well. Both have extensive starting experience in the NFL. That's something I like. I was also impressed with Houston's defense in week one against New England. They completely stymied the Patriots offense, only held them to 180 yards. I think they can find success against a combination of Mike White.


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[Assistant] Skyler Thompson, uh, this week. So yeaah, I've just been generally encouraged with everything that I've heard, uh, from this Texas team. I really think that culture is starting to improve there and they're going to be competitive this year. I think this game means more to them than it means to Miami, which is a reason that I think it's a good spot to back the Texans.


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[Assistant] You get away from football for a little bit and then you start missing it and you get that itch again.


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[Assistant] Definitely Katie, yeaah. I'm with Emory here as well. I like Buffalo in this spot too. I would agree with Matt Barkley. He has really good command of this Buffalo offense. I have a lot of confidence. Looking at the Steelers offense, a lot of question marks. I also agree.


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[Assistant] regarding Kenny Pickett. Uh, I think this Pittsburgh offense is going to struggle this year. I also think the roster is very top heavy. I don't think there is a lot of depth. I think they suffered some key injuries both on the offensive or defensive side. They are in for a long year. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Steelers actually finish last in that very competitive


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[Assistant] Uh, division as well, so I like Buffalo in this spot though.


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[Assistant] That they've assembled as well is absolutely tremendous. So I do think they're a significant favorite compared to Dallas. I like them to cover by double digits as well.


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[Assistant] Driving into the stadium, seeing everybody cell gating. I get that ready to go feeling.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are. We're doing great. It's Monday football. We got football. Football happened. Uh, it wasn't exciting, but it was, I mean, it was, it was exciting. The hall of fame game is always like, you're super hyped for it. And then you're like, all right, this stinks, but you're like, it is football and it's setting the table. So.


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[Assistant] Well, and just before Emery dives in and you may be wanting to mention this, but it's happening like as we speak. So I feel like I just want to throw it out there. Titus Howard, the starting right tackle for the Texans out several weeks with a broken hand. So not this. And this goes back to what we've talked about over the past few weeks, right? Where you can bet an over in July, all you want.


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[Assistant] But when you do so, any over you bet in July, you're running the risk of.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm still gonna go over the Texans. And I mean, like, I know that...


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[Assistant] I mean, it's not the, not the news you want breaking right before the, you talk about the Texans on the podcast because.


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[Assistant] Maybe it's different and I'm, and I think I go the other way. Um, I just think that the upgrading for me, for me, it basically boils down to this. It's a low number.


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[Assistant] You get seven and ten, you know, you get seven and ten and you didn't have a great season and you still go over the turtle. I'd like it to be like five and a half versus six. And if it creeps back down, that'd be a lot, a lot more interesting to me, obviously. Um, over six and a half plus one 20. And so you're getting a plus number there. You got to win seven games.


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[Assistant] You in theory have a massive upgrade at quarterback, even if it's a rookie in CJ Stroud.


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[Assistant] I think they got better at the past in terms of pass catchers, Dalton Schultz, who we hyped up on this podcast, Katie, and, uh, and then, you know, Noah Brown sort of flying under the radar. Nico Collins is, you know, not like a household name by any stretch, but you know, third year wide receiver who could possibly have a breakout.


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[Assistant] The offensive line, of course, Titus Howard, I knew it was three weeks to be different than eight weeks or whatever it would be, but it's a broken hand. That's a big deal. We have seen offensive linemen who will play with, you know, with, with the hand injury like that.


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[Assistant] They have enough pieces on the offensive line. And then like to me, the, the veteran defensive pieces they put in place coupled with just a huge upgrade in terms of coaching. I mean, look, David Cully, you know, God bless him.


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[Assistant] I mean, like, yeaah, he, like, he gave it his all that year, but, you know, it wasn't, like, it was very clear that it was like, uh, we can't find anybody, let's go with David Culley, then Lovey Smith was...


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[Assistant] Probably weren't winning that game anyway. So at least that's good. The Colts at home in week two and at the Jaguars in week three, Steelers at home in week four. So like, let's say that is Tuncil three games.


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[Assistant] They could realistically still go one and two and that's probably what their projected record would have been anyway. But you got to beat the Colts in week two if you want to get that over. So.


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[Assistant] Uh, the guitar, the final guitar that he ever played with, with the Grateful Dead that he played like in 1995. Um, it's just like, it's got, it's just like sick guitar and, uh, it was valued at a million dollars in the past, like 10 years sold for $3 million. You never bought it.