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[Assistant] A touchdown pass. He is the second player in NFL history with 10 or more pass touchdowns, 10 or more receiving touchdowns and 25 or more rush touchdowns. The other one was...


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[Assistant] I don't know. Frank Gifford. Wow. That's a good, that's a name from the past. That's a good one right there. Taysom Hill will be calling Monday Night Football one day, because Frank did that for a while afterwards. I mean like, the most interesting


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[Assistant] According to DraftKings, to win the NFC South right now at minus 135. Back in the win column.


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[Assistant] The Las Vegas Raiders in a tumultuous week.


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[Assistant] Josh McDaniel's gone. You talked about that on Wednesday with Connor. The GM gone as well. And they come out. Antonio Pierce in charge now. He goes, let's put the guy in that knows how the Giants operate and knows all their secrets from back in the day.


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[Assistant] I don't think that worked at all in any effect, but, uh, it looked like it did. 30 to 6.


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[Assistant] Let's pretend you're a Raiders fan. Let's cheer you up. Josh Jacobs is season high in Rush Yards with 98. Uh, two touchdowns for the first time this year. And Max Crosby, third career game with three or more sacks. Uh, tripod2x says, has Max Crosby entered the defensive player of the year category yet? I think so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, depending on the matchup, he looks as physically dominant at times. You know, if he has a good matchup, he looks as dominant as anyone.


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[Assistant] DraftKings currently has Max Crosby with the 5th best odds to win Defensive Player of the Year. He's tied with Nick Bosa right now and Chris Jones at plus 3,000.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Colts Panthers. Colts get the win. His ex-team. 27-13 was the final score. Colts snapped their three game losing streak. We'll start this one with Jim Irsay.


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[Assistant] They too, they too matched their win total just like the Houston Texans who have now exceeded it. They matched their win total from last season when they went 4-12-1.


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[Assistant] So Benjamin Patrick says, okay, I need a quick eval of the Panthers offense, namely Bryce. What's going on? He looked fantastic last week, and I was really shocked to see him play so poorly this week. So it's the third game this season. He has had two or more interceptions. He had three today.


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[Assistant] I think this next game we're going to talk about a couple of quarterbacks that maybe are in the same boat. They need an offense around them. They need a little bit of a structure around them. Commanders and Patriots. Commanders get the win 2017. Uh, Washington now has four wins this season by 17.


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[Assistant] Total points, uh, they have consecutive games with over 400 total yards for the first time since 2020. I say this every podcast, I go, I like the Washington offense. I like the playmakers they have. I like Sam Howell, takes too many sacks. You should, yeah. But, um, but I like what they can do. They eke out a win here. Patriots were driving late.


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[Assistant] Juju Smith Schuster just dropped one and it ended up being an interception at the end of the game. But, uh, three point game. Commanders get the win.


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[Assistant] What were you going to say? You were going to say something. 432 yards. No, it was 37 minutes of time of possession for Washington. Just 22 for the Patriots in this one. So you're right. It was, it was, it was domination. I don't know. I mean, do you think that they've, they're four and five right now. They've got an offense that can score points. I don't know. I guess they're not going to be able to do this defensively against teams that aren't the New England Patriots.


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[Assistant] One more game to talk about, the Packers and Rams. Here's the bad news for the Packers. They have six straight games now, with 20 points or fewer.


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[Assistant] They haven't done that since 2005, so it's been a long time. Here's the good news. I remember that year. Here's the good news. They only needed four today, and they got twenty. Twenty to three, they get the win over the Rams who are without their starting quarterback. Stafford was out with a thumb injury, although he might be back relatively quick.


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[Assistant] Jordan Lovitz, his first game with zero turnovers since week two.


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[Assistant] Let's say it did. Those are all the Sunday games. Now for Thursday Night Football in 60 seconds. The Steelers win again when they get outgained. They have been outgained every game this year. Yea. And they are 5-3. They get a 4 point win over the Titans.


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[Assistant] The Pittsburgh Steelers are five and three. They are second place in the AFC North. Actually, there's Baltimore at seven and two, and then the three other teams are all five and three.


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[Assistant] Maybe Miami is not as dominant against some of those good teams, and who knows? This could be a big game for the Jets.


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[Assistant] Also not bet money on that one. Chris's advice there. They do need to win this game, the Chargers, because they have the Detroit Lions in Week 10. That's an automatic loss at this point here, but everyone knows that.


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[Assistant] Adam Schefter, so you know this has to be true. He's got the check mark too. Daniel Jones. No. No. Eagles tight end Dallas Goddard. Broken forearm. A fracture in his forearm will undergo an MRI on Monday to determine if there's any further damage. Either way, Goddard is set to miss time and is an injured reserve.


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[Assistant] We've got three segments here, uh, Statement Wins, we've got Surprising Upsets, we've got Taking Care of Business, and we've got Gimme the Headlines. That's actually four segments? Yeah. So, bonus segment.


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[Assistant] But that's the thing, the only way for Aaron Rodgers to come back and for this to play out the way we wanted it to play out this year, I feel like Zach Wilson's gonna have to fall on his face again. And Aaron's gonna have to make a really good recovery.


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[Assistant] Still worried, and we'll see where it goes from here. Yea, 13 targets to Stephon Diggs. The next closest for the Bills was James Cook, with six, the running back. Yea. I mean, even Gabe Davis had four, and Kincaid four, so. Right, right. Still the Josh Allen and Stephon Diggs show. Exactly right, that's too much.


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[Assistant] So we'll do that, digging treasure hunters into these films. We'll also give you the Big Butt Awards for the first time this year. Oh, I love it. Defensive Tackle and Edge Big Butt of the Week Awards. Great. And we'll take a look at your homies playoff predictions. So all of the homies have submitted their


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[Assistant] We got over a thousand, over a thousand responses from the playoff predictions. Awesome. So we'll go through those and uh, I'm already a little scared about my own. I feel good about mine. Uh, let's go deep dive. What the F happened. Treasure hunters week one. Let's start with the dolphins.


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[Assistant] Offense against the Chargers, a great game back and forth. Miami won 36, uh, 36-34. We got, uh, Hupala Hutch. Yeaah. Says to you.


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[Assistant] How did Mike McDaniel and Tua pick apart a Chargers defense that gave them so much trouble last year? How did they adjust?


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[Assistant] So, and the dolphins can handle it. They don't mess it up. I mean, that would be the worry, right? You got all this pre-snap movement, you got assignments, and just like, you jack it.


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[Assistant] Bill Belichick and the Patriots really could do something that we can go, wow, we've never seen that before because...


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[Assistant] That's exactly what they did last week, according to Tony Romo.


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[Assistant] Did you hear about this? Which one? Uh, the Patriots. Yeah, I know. Taking on the Eagles. I don't know what it was exactly, but Lockdown CB noted it too. He goes, what was the defensive coverage?


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[Assistant] The Patriots were showing that Tony Romo said he had never seen before. Did you see anything on film as we transition to the Eagles taking on the Patriots? Patriots doing a good job of slowing down the Eagles. They did. Maybe a little rust. Maybe they should play in the preseason. Right.


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[Assistant] We still make picks, but he's a homer, he can't help it. He's a homer, big time homer. Uhm, so I think that's interesting with the Eagles because I think part of the talk on them was that, oh, this is the Ross, this is the preseason, but you think this is maybe somewhat of a continuation of what the Chiefs showed last year in the Super Bowl, like this might be a blueprint on how to slow down the Eagles off.


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[Assistant] I mean they really limited their explosive plays. The longest one they had was 16 yards, Kenneth Gainwell. The longest pass was 23 yards to AJ Brown. Devontae Smith, his longest catch was 13 yards. Exactly right.


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[Assistant] Now, you know, we've moved on as a podcast. Well, last year we ripped on Tua. We don't do that anymore because he's just thrown for too many yards. Uh, Jalen Hurts, we did it last year.


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[Assistant] Well, I almost am wondering if Miles Sanders is a bigger loss than we were giving him credit for. Not that he's one of the top running backs out there, and I think he definitely benefited from the Steelers and everything that was around, but I mean, do you think that running game will be as dynamic as it was last year?


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[Assistant] But that'll be fun to watch Thursday night. And maybe the Packers are going, uh, up in some people's eyes who are not sitting at this desk because they look pretty good against the Bears. 38 to 20 was the final score. The Jordan Love era has begun. You got a pretty good look at Jordan Love.


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[Assistant] Cause the quarterback is pretty obvious just from watching the TV version. But was there anything else on the tape version that Jordan Love did that stood out to you?


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[Assistant] But okay, back to the, yeaah, back to our game and S Muldoon 16 says how much of the Packers offense has changed with Jordan Love at quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Prohibition Riot wanted to know, was it Justin Fields, the O-line, the coaching, the biggest reason for the Bears being a giant suckfest? I'll throw another one in there too. Sure, go ahead. Cause you see some, some video out there of Chase Claypool not looking real good. Well, yeah.


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[Assistant] We got Packers at the Falcons coming up. That's gonna be a good game. How's that Falcons D gonna do against the Packers offense?


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[Assistant] That's a really good matchup this Sunday. You got Bears at Buccaneers. So we'll see if Justin Fields and that offense can figure things out against a really good Bucs defense there. Exactly right. That's a tough test. So there's, there's something that's


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[Assistant] Alright, so you feel better about the Packers than maybe you did after...


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[Assistant] The Bengals, it probably feels a little bit of the opposite, although they did this to us last year. They did. It was like week one was a stinker. Yup. They go, are we too high on the Bengals? And it turns out we weren't. Uhm, Cleveland beats the Bengals 24-3 was the final here.


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[Assistant] Uh, Elton Pooka says, Hello Chris, big fan of the pod. Thank you Elton. Bengals pass catchers versus the Browns had by far the least amount of separation.


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[Assistant] There's a question that Coach Magnant has that I had too. Yeah. Uh, Burrow Bengals performance. How much was Joey's calf still hindering him? As you can see, he was still limping slightly when he arrived at the stadium. So, yeah, what, what was it? Do you think Joe looked like Joe?


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[Assistant] Lowest rated. Oh, actually no. Alex Kappa. Alex Kappa was, okay. And then you got. I thought the middle was the biggest issue. Which one?


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[Assistant] That's kind of what it looked like. Yea, note to other players out there, do not call your opponent elves, because it's derogatory, it'll fire them up, and you just remember it. Yea. Right, the other team's gonna remember that. Definitely. Like if you just call them like trash or garbage, whatever, it's like you've heard that before. Yea, right. But if you get called an elf, you're not forgetting that.


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[Assistant] The Browns are at the Steelers this week now, so we'll see what they can do in this one because the Steelers looked not very good against maybe the best team in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Of the world. Not just of America. Of the world. We haven't found anyone in the world who is more of an expert of big butts.


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[Assistant] Big butt of the week, Edge. Week number one, TJ Watt. Uh, congratulations. You are back. You're healthy. We're all glad except for opposing quarterbacks and offenses. Three sacks, right? Three sacks tied for the most this week for an Edge. Drake Jackson also had three sacks and Josh Allen, the other Josh Allen for the Jaguars had three sacks. Uh, TJ forced a couple of fumbles.


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[Assistant] Uhm, now Josh Allen did lead all edge with six defensive stops. You know who was one behind him?


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[Assistant] Uh, and my big butt of the week at Defensive Tackle.


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[Assistant] It's amazing. The best line you had on him was in college watching the tape. You were like, I didn't know if I was watching the game film or his highlight reel. Exactly right. That's what it looked like.


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[Assistant] Alright, now it is time in the pod for the Columbo airing on Peacock. One more thing of the week. Do we have that? Kristen, do we have that? There it is! There it is! What's up? Streaming on Peacock. What up Columbo?


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[Assistant] I really like the way CJ Stroud looks. Well that's why I respect what you do so much, because you try to take everything in context, right? You can't just look at the numbers, because I'm looking at CJ Stroud here, and his top two targets are Nico Collins. The numbers are okay. But yea, it's Nico Collins, and it's Robert Woods. Exactly.


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[Assistant] God forbid something happened to Jared Goff. My Lions could trade those two first round picks back and get Matthew Stafford back for a playoff. Imagine that! It's come full circle! Your guy is Jared Goff. I know, I'm just saying.


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[Assistant] Uh, Super Bowl, the most popular champion, the Chiefs, 20% of you out there picking them to win it all, 49ers second choice, Eagles third choice, but the 49ers?


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[Assistant] Have a 49% chance of reaching the Super Bowl. Oh, 49% of the people.


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[Assistant] So, we'll track this as the season goes along. Shout out to the homies for all the participation. Now it's time to say what we're doing for the rest of the week. Big Ten. Big Ten Saturday night.


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[Assistant] Look, I didn't expect the Raiders to be very good this year.


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[Assistant] New York Giants quarterback Phil Sims in the endzone to endzone touchdown pass challenge. Sims drops back.


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[Assistant] Pete says that Hyundai has reached out to us. They want to change the segment to Sing Me the Headlines, presented by Hyundai.


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[Assistant] It's not refined. They're not trying to be good. They're not trying to be funny. Right. It's just like, well, they're not funny. I'm going to let you know that right now. Uh, yeah. Treasure hunters for your kids out there. Uh, what the F happened. Uh, we're looking for some golden nuggets here. We're going to pare it down. You looked deeply into a couple of matchups here. We're going to do that. So it's, uh, which I like the games we picked here too. It's like the,


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[Assistant] The Dolphins were on this historic pace with their offense, so how did the Eagles slow them down? And the Browns on the other end, on a historic pace with their defense, and what did the Colts do? Gashed them, scored some points against them.


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[Assistant] We asked you guys out there, what's the one thing in the NFL that you cannot wrap your head around? So we got some really good questions, and hopefully, uh, Chris will help you wrap your head. Yes. Right? Which seems like, like not good actually, like wrapping a head. It's like, hey, I just wrapped your head. Be like, oh, that's a bad thing. But you're just, your brain's consumed. You've consumed that subject, right?


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[Assistant] Multiple reasons why you think that was. You said on Sunday night, you know, it's like, size can beat speed, you know, and so it's like, that seems what the, the Eagles have done here, but you looked at the nitty gritty exactly how they did that. Was it scheme? Was it just putting the dudes out there and slowing down those fast guys? And so I guess let's just start with what's your big takeaway? How did the Eagles


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[Assistant] It's part of the magic of the Eagles because they blitz 23% of the time. That is the sixth lowest rate in the NFL and against the Dolphins on Sunday night on NBC, 13.9% of the time.


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[Assistant] So you noted Jalen Carter as you have basically every time you've watched him play. You noted Josh Sweat, making life difficult for the Dolphins. So was this again a case of the Eagles are just better, they're gonna do this to most teams, or do you think that the Dolphins have a specific problem in pass protection?


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[Assistant] He did throw one interception in the game. When did that happen? Oh, that was down by the goal line, second half.


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[Assistant] That's right. So this is a good time to go inside the notebook brought to you by nobody. Yea, we're still looking for a sponsor. We go inside Chris's notebook. Maybe that's because the penmanship is not quite good enough yet. Maybe you need a little bit more clear writing.


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[Assistant] Or like we talked about in the beginning of it. That's the charm of it, right? It's like, what is he saying here? I think I can kind of make out this. So if you're watching on Peacock or YouTube, play along with us and try to read Chris's writing. That's what Pete and I do every, uh, Tuesday night. So here's, here's a play you diagram. This is the, the interception one. This was, what was it, Pete?


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[Assistant] 11.30 left in the fourth quarter, down by the goal line. This interception happened right by the goal line, uhm, here. So, Chris, take us through your notes and what you noticed on that play.


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[Assistant] And then the Dolphins started doing some in the third quarter, some reverses, their double pass kind of things. It's like they were, at that point, what did that tell you?


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[Assistant] They were bigger, they were more physical, and they were almost as fast as the Dolphins on offense. When you flip the page over to the defense, could you almost use the exact same headline?


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[Assistant] Alright, so the Dolphins did try to stop the run. I think they did actually a decent job because it was 34 carries, 99 yards. That's 2.9 yards per carry. That's pretty good. And so they committed a bunch of guys up front to try to do that. What did that do though ultimately for the Dolphins when they played like that?


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[Assistant] Were there any players for the Dolphins on defense? And we've talked about them before with the Christian Wilkins and they've got some star power Bradley Chung. Was there anyone that stood out in this game for you?


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[Assistant] Let me look at one more thing here with Jalen Hurts and specifically how he has handled the Blitz this season. Uh, the percentage of times that he has been Blitz this season is 42.7%. That is the third highest rate.


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[Assistant] Uh, in the NFL, um, he has not been great against the Blitz. In fact, he has made some of his mistakes when he's been pressured here. Five interceptions versus the Blitz. No other quarterback has more than three interceptions. He has been blitzed a lot though, so you gotta take that into account. But are you noticing any bad habits when there's pressure applied to Jalen Hurd?


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[Assistant] Do we have a screenshot here, Pete, that indicates that? Is this the 33 yard pass to AJ Brown? Is this, uh, is this what we're talking about here, Pete? So Pete says, yeah, so here's the first read. Looks like he's going to throw it, but he does not.


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[Assistant] I like that. That was, I think that was comprehensive. Uh, well done. The Eagles are at the commanders. They went to overtime in Philly just a month ago. So we'll see if, uh, Washington, I feel like Washington is playing worse significantly at this point. I don't know if this game will be as close.


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[Assistant] Dolphins are gonna try to get right against the New England Patriots. The Dolphins won 24-17 in New England back in week two. A lot of rematches already early on in the season. Early on. I've noticed here. Yeah. Patriots saying. I know, right? I feel like.


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[Assistant] They've got a, they've got, I mean, New England probably, I don't know. I don't know what the numbers say. But I would think that they are a top five-ish on the borderline defense, do you think? Well, they're probably not, if they're secondary.


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[Assistant] Pete just is bearing home the point. They're bottom ten in yards per play, so. I'm just saying if they're fully healthy and then add a couple more Hall of Famers.


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[Assistant] The Lions defense did not look like it was in the top 30 in the NFL against the Baltimore Ravens this Sunday. Unfortunately, we have to get to this game now. Uh, the Ravens, yes, they crushed my Detroit Lions 38 to 6. We were praising the...


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[Assistant] The Lions defense and the Lions offense, and neither one of them showed up to this game, which may be the hardest game they have on their schedule from here on out.


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[Assistant] Let's show you Jared Golf's maybe Achilles heel, similar to many quarterbacks out there. Jared Golf versus Pressure this season. So when he is not pressured, he has the most yards in the NFL and he has the best touchdown to interception ratio at nine to one.


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[Assistant] When he does face pressure, all those numbers go down. In fact, his touchdowns interception number is two to three at that point and averages just 5.8 yards per pass. And so this was, this was bad news. You just mentioned it. It's a matchup league. You said the Ravens defense is the best at this in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they were able to pressure Goff just really 32% of the time. So kind of right in line with what he's had this season, which is the fifth lowest rate in the NFL. But on those pressures, he was just 6 of 14, 47 yards, an interception, sacked five times on that too. And so yeah, he was, his brains were scrambled.


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[Assistant] There were so many players on the defensive side that stood out and you noted in your notes here, Michael Pierce, nose tackle.


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[Assistant] You basically made notes about everyone at every level of this defense, so that was the front, and then even the linebackers jumped out to you.


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[Assistant] And how about that guy in the secondary, the safety, Kyle Hamilton, what's the former first rounder that at times we were like, uh oh, is he going to live up to the hype and expectations? He's living.


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[Assistant] So there's something you noted here, and maybe you've touched on this already within your breakdown, but you said you have to have all purpose pass plays versus the Ravens. There's no way the quarterback is going to read the right coverage every play. Exactly right. What do you mean?


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[Assistant] So this is good. This does make me feel better. I'm going to blame everything on this Lions game on just the Ravens being elite defensively and not even worry about the Lions having issues playing offense.


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[Assistant] Gibbs did play, the Gibbs played in this game. Yea, he did play a little bit. Yea, yea, yea.


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[Assistant] I mean, you were very effusive in the praise of what you saw from the film, from the defense for the Ravens. I think you were almost just as effusive in your praise of what the Ravens can do offensively in this one. And you think if they can stay healthy, they are going to be number one in the NFL by the end of the year.


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[Assistant] The Ravens offense has everything schematically, and the players to go along with it.


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[Assistant] The answer we're gonna get to, uh, the Chris's AMA that we'll get to here in just a little bit, uh, which is, what's one thing in the NFL that you cannot wrap your head around? Kimberly Washington said, no team other than the Ravens wanted Lamar Jackson this off season. Um, which is not totally true. There were some other things that went into that, right, with what you had to pay in draft picks, but.


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[Assistant] But yea, a team could have blown the doors off the Ravens and taken Lamar Jackson, taken that chance and probably maybe seeing him play this past week. Teams are taking themselves for not doing that. Uh, here's a couple of the dots plays, Chris. Yup. Uh, here's the rush touchdown against the Lions.


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[Assistant] Phenomenal that way. So his work within the pocket, can you still see some things in that ridiculous 9 second touchdown pass to Nelson Aguilar in the back of the endzone with that?


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[Assistant] So I also mentioned on Sunday how, and you mentioned it too, how they have some really interesting RPO pass plays where the Lions just totally sold out for stopping the run and got gashed a couple of times. Can we show this other dots play? Is there a machine up and running? Is it working?


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[Assistant] Did we grease the wheels? Did we put some oil in there? So this is the 80 yard catch and run to Gus Edwards.


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[Assistant] Look at this offensive line for the Ravens. You got Ronnie Stanley, 6'6", 3'15", John Simpson, 6'4", 3'30", Linderbaum, 6'2", 3'05", he's the light one of the group. He's the light one, yeaah. Zeitler, 6'4", 3'40", and then Morgan Moses, 6'6", 3'20".


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[Assistant] So the Ravens are at the Arizona Cardinals. Good luck with that. Cardinals and the Lions, uh, versus Las Vegas. It's a get right spot against the reeling Raiders perhaps for the Lions.


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[Assistant] I'm glad we had that game. The Lions have one game left against a team that currently has a winning record. So that was our last tune up for the playoffs.


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[Assistant] It's about time. It's about time. It's been 30 years. It's been my whole life. Over 4 years it feels like. Alright, we closed the book on that deep dive section of the pod and now it's time to get into the bigger butt section of the pod.


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[Assistant] Defensive tackle, big butt of the week for week number seven. Pete was tweeting about this man on Twitter. I saw it. He said he got paid and now he's even better. He's just love, he's like a proud father figure. To Dexter Lawrence, Sexy Dexy versus the Washington commanders, the giant


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[Assistant] He led all defensive tackles with eight pressures, three sacks via PFF, and one of his sacks, they noted, uh, or I was looking on Twitter for some of the comments about him, and one was a play where the Giants rushed four, the Commanders kept seven into block, and Sexy Dexy got the sack.


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[Assistant] Really had no choice on this one. I don't think he did. Miles Garrett gets the win. He's the first player to take home multiple elephant butt trophies this season. He won one last season. He had the two sacks, the two forced fumbles. One was in the end zone for a touchdown. He had the block field goal. That was all in the first half.


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[Assistant] Special shout out to the Jacksonville Jaguars version of Josh Allen, who had 10 pressures, according to PFF this week, leading all edge guys with those pressures, but he does not win. He finishes second. I'll give him second place to Miles Garrett, who takes home the Big Butt of the Week award, and there's Sexy Dexy, the rears of both of those big men.


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[Assistant] I was like, I think I know what that means. Drop it low. Drop it low. Drop it low. Drop it low. Okay, alright. I'm gonna pause here, cut that part out of the podcast, pick it up right there. Okay, good. Uh, real quick, so I forgot that you looked at this too. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so you took a deeper look at what happened here with this Browns defense that was on pace to be like Bears of the mid 80s, 85 Bears.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so yeah, how did, how did the Colts do this to the Browns and is this something that could happen again to them? No.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well coached in the run game. You say they have a ton of variety in the run game. The spacing, uhm, was good. They have the patience to continue to do that.


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[Assistant] That's interesting, so if you're going against the Browns, don't drop back pass, RPO, try to run the ball.


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[Assistant] So this is less about, you know, red flags for the Browns defense. Maybe they weren't as good as we thought. And this is more an appreciation segment on the Indianapolis Colts. And I'm looking at their,


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[Assistant] Their schedule here as we go through their three and four right now, they're coming off back to back losses, Jaguars, now Browns, but they got the Saints, Panthers, Patriots, Bucks, Titans. I mean, they're going to be in this thing till the end.


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[Assistant] So the Browns still win though, the Colts losing this one, the Browns are at Seattle.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Colts against the Saints as I mentioned here. Uh, Saints off a little bit of extra rest. Maybe they've had extra time to look at Shane Steichen's scheme here and get a game plan. But those are the two games for those teams coming up. Do you have one more thing you want to say? I don't think I do. I think that pretty much covered it.


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[Assistant] I'm interested to see this. DraftKings has the AFC North winner odds right now. And according to DraftKings, the Ravens are still the favorite. They're 5 and 2. They're plus 105.


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[Assistant] The Browns second choice at plus 300. The Steelers with the same 4-2 record as the Browns at plus 500. And the Bengals at plus 500 at 3-3.


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[Assistant] That's interesting. I think that, would you say that the Ravens are a cut above those other three teams?


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[Assistant] Don't forget on DraftKings Sportsbook this season, new customers can bet $5 and pocket $200 in bonus bets instantly.


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[Assistant] Question of the week, ask me anything to the homies. What is one NFL thing that you could just not wrap your head around? We got over 200 responses to your Twitter question on this one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I, and McVeigh did not have a challenge. No. Because he had used all his time out.


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[Assistant] Uh, an actual speed Twitch guy that barely is on the field. When he has been, he looks like what they're missing.


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[Assistant] Spent his first four years with the New Orleans Saints. His first year in Buffalo this year has just 13 catches, 103 yards on the season so far. Matthew Takas says,


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[Assistant] Why Bill Belichick and Bill O'Brien don't involve DiMario Pop Douglasmore in my Pat's offense? He's the one dude that provides natural separation in his routes to provide us some extra creativity in our offense. So a similar question, just a different team and a different player.


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[Assistant] Got a question on the 49ers defense. John W. Randolph says missing D'Amico Ryan's like crazy. Kyle Shanahan was pissed post game. Not sure if Steve Wilkes is following the blueprint of the D like he said he would upon his hire. And this takes us to Inside the Numbers.


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[Assistant] It was the first seven man pass rush in the last 30 seconds of a half in opposing territory since week 11 of 2020.


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[Assistant] Let's stick with the 49ers here. Jared Kearns says, I'm trying to understand why it seems that the 49ers run substantially less pre-snap motion without Debo. There are plenty of studs in speed other than Debo. Can you quantify and explain?


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[Assistant] Pete's looked at the numbers on PFF, it's not a huge difference, you know, it's pretty similar.


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[Assistant] Yeah, one thing to look at with Brock Purdy too, he is certainly Miss Debo Samuel. Uh, NextGenStats pointed something out. He generated a league-high 41.5 EPA, which is expected points added, on passes targeting the intermediate area of the field over his first five games. But the last two games, as we take a look at the, uh, the numbers and


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[Assistant] I mean, you did just say screw the boss, just on the, on microphone. Uhm, okay, alright, one more. Travis Kelsey, cause we did get a few questions about him and teams guarding him. Greg Robinson goes, chargers like Kelsey run free? Hey, why not guard that guy? And then greatness calls, adds to it, says, why does no one spy Mahomes if you're worried?


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[Assistant] Only worried about 87. Double him. Rush 4. Spy 15. That's 7, guys. If MVS beats you, oh well, but I can never understand letting 87 beat you. So multiple homies want to know, how can you let Travis Kelce and Patrick Mahomes beat you like this?


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[Assistant] We're gonna find out by the end of this pod, if, if, uh, Chris is boss.


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[Assistant] I think there are some people at a certain point that are like, we just want to see it, right? We just want to see Travis Kelsey get shut down. And actually it seems like that because he's gone for 124 yards and 179 yards his last two games. But against Jacksonville, four catches, 26 yards. You know, so it does, it does still happen.


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[Assistant] You're gonna get me fired at this point. Alright everybody. We're gonna save the top wide receiver talk for next time.


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[Assistant] There were good comments, but I actually, I did see a lot that were like, yep, no complaints


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[Assistant] It's a random one, but Cody Mark to be drafted in the first round is plus 400.


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[Assistant] Appreciate that. Yeah, Melbourne, Melbourne, Australia, a bit more difficult, complex than Long Beach, California.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so those are the main ones, certainly, uh, but there are so many awards markets now, which I think are the most interesting markets to bet, and uh, I know we'll get to them at the end, but being able to bet on


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[Assistant] Okay, well, can Andy Reid really win Coach of the Year? Right. Probably, almost certainly not. Yeah, right. Because the expectations are so low. They'd have to go undefeated, right? Yeah, exactly. But then figuring out, okay, well, who does have scope to make gigantic leaps? And more importantly, who's going to get the credit? Right. Ah, so I think those are the most fun markets, but there's plenty of future stuff to build on.


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[Assistant] I think as well, one other thing that I always look at is not so much just the headline stats, but the underlying stuff. For instance, for something like Defensive Player of the Year, like last year Hassan Reddick had 16 sacks, Jaylen Phillips had 7, but Jaylen Phillips actually had more pressures than Hassan Reddick, and that's more predictive of sacks going forward, so I don't think anyone is thinking about Jaylen Phillips as a Defensive Player of the Year candidate, I'm not sure


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[Assistant] Every football fan could just like spot him on the street and identify him, but he was the top six guy in the league in pressure. He's the first round pick, he's in an elite defense, and I think he should be much higher up.


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[Assistant] You know, I was just going to say as well, like when Bradley Chubb did get there, Phillips, his numbers skyrocketed because he basically, he had less pressure on him. And as well, like awards like DPOY, those are the ones where it's most easiest to predict like what


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[Assistant] What the win condition is, uh, where if you just lead the league in sacks by margin, you're probably going to win Defensive Player of the Year, unless you're Matthew Judon and Micah Parsons is one sack behind you and they don't go to Parsons because you're the rep. But Jalen Phillips has a decent chance to lead the league in sacks and then he probably just wins Defensive Player of the Year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I would say that it depends on the market. For instance, like Jalen Phillips, he was 200 to 1 doing Defensive Player of the Year, so don't have to put down a ton of money on 200 to 1 to get a decent return. So that I'm happy to bet now, whereas my favorite bet in the NFL right now is just Patrick Mahomes to win MVP at plus 650.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes should just be plus 250 to win MVP every single year I think. This is just, it's peak Peyton Manning all over again where Peyton Manning won I think like four times in eight or nine years. And Mahomes is just the same deal. He's the best quarterback I think by margin.


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[Assistant] Uh, but with that, the price isn't really gonna move that much between now and training camp and, uh, and the first week of the season. So you can probably wait to see in pre-season if Mahomes gets injured. Right. So that's the one I would wait on, but the 200 to one shot I'd pounce on now.


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[Assistant] Grass tennis folds nicely and withdrews interest in horticulture.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think so, because, I mean, game to game, like, it's very difficult to beat the AFL game to game betting on lines and totals. There are definitely edges.


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[Assistant] Yeah, definitely. The opening schedule folds a lot into that. So for instance, I think there are teams to buy right now because they have an easy opening schedule. For instance, the Packers. Do you want to read out the Packers, the way they start the season?


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[Assistant] At Chicago, at Atlanta, New Orleans, Detroit, at Vegas, at Denver, Minnesota, Rams, at Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Yeaah. They're better than a lot of those teams. There's no Super Bowl contender. Right. And that's, what's that, is that eight games? Like that's insane. Yeaah. So now is the time to bet on the Packers if you like them, whereas if another team has to play the Chiefs, Ravens, uh, and Cowboys in the first three weeks, then you would wait for that. Yeaah. So yeaah. Yeaah. I think paying attention to the schedule in that sense is important.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well like, at that point, if you didn't like the Packers, at that point you thought they were a fraudulent 6-1 because of the schedule, then you looked back at other teams in the division. But, I think the main thing with all of this is that,


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[Assistant] Like, it's all relative to price. So for instance, you might not like the Chicago Bears and you just don't think the Chicago Bears are gonna be any good and you don't want to bet them it.


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[Assistant] I never think they're going to be going to hate them. But if they were 20 to 1, then everyone would bet them to win the division. So you might, it's just, I think important not to have kind of just preconceived notions for or against the team. Cause it's just, it's all about the price.


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[Assistant] So the team that I think is the most underrated by the market is the Miami Dolphins, where I don't understand why everyone thinks that the Jets are going to be significantly better than the Dolphins.


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[Assistant] The bills, I think, should be rated ahead of the Dolphins, but not by this kind of margin. I think this Dolphins theme is just completely loaded.


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[Assistant] Uhm, obviously they make a change at coordinator as well, and I just think the D-line full season at Chubb opposite Phillips.


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[Assistant] I think Mike McDaniel is a really good creative coach. So I think this team is just absolutely loaded and they have juggernaut potential. Tua was magnificent for the first half or so of the season. I still do worry about


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[Assistant] The game that he played in prime time against the Chargers, where he was so subpar, and how much is he a product of McDaniel, and if he just comes up against a scheme that can exploit him, but I think this team has a ton of upside, so I think a plus 300, they're a good bet to win that division.


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[Assistant] Especially with all, I don't know what happened with Stefan Diggs yesterday. Yeaah. But the pills. There's some turmoil. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] And also with the Jets, like the Jets should be really good, Roger's obviously a huge upgrade, but I always worry about a team that is built on defense. Because defense just fluctuates year to year so much more than offense because you're so reliant on turnovers, uh, whereas, you know, you can always just bet on


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[Assistant] Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and Joe Borrow. Those teams are just gonna be good every year. Those guys are healthy. Uh, so I'd be a little bit worried about the Jets. Uh, so I think the Dolphins, uh, I think they should be the second favorite in the AFCS.


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[Assistant] I think the Falcons also, they're a team at least, even though the quarterback situation is uninspiring, at least they have two throws at the dartboard with the quarterback situation. Exactly. So if it's not working out for Ritter, then Heineken can come in and he can be probably good enough for that division. Right, to run the offense and manage it. Right. So at least you've got two cracks at it.


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[Assistant] Yep, so my favorite awards bet at the moment, outside of my home's MVP, which is a little obvious, so I won't go too far into that one, but uh, it's Matt Lafleur to win Coach of the Year at 20-1. And so the thing with this market is,


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[Assistant] You're basically, you're looking for a team that is going to improve by around four wins that doesn't have a superstar quarterback to steal credit from you. That's what screwed Lafleur.


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[Assistant] The other thing I really like is they play in prime time five different times, so if they're good, he's gonna get attention. And then lastly, you only need one thing to go right here, and that's Jordan Love to be decent, which he may not be decent, but he also could be. He's the biggest wild card in the NFL this season, and so I think that you throw all that together,


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[Assistant] Tim's still got a lot of talent on that roster, which didn't live up to expectations, uh, last year, but the year prior was a one seed. So I think that with Le Fleur, there's a lot there and at 20 to one, uh, I think that he is a decent bet for Coach Le Fleur.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's right. They don't want to mess with you, right? Stefan Gilmour, I think had six picks when he won, but that was on the best defense in the league. Uh, Darrell Revis never won. I think sauce had two picks last year and teams just didn't throw at him. Like he's going to need six, seven picks. I'm not sure teams are going to throw at him.


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[Assistant] Well, the joke is, is that a year and a half ago, Trayvon Diggs probably would have had a better chance to win Defensive Player of the Year than Source Gardener will this year, as Source Gardener is a much, much better player than Trayvon Diggs, I think. Yes, but the interceptions.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well that makes sense. That's the question where, I think Russ, like he would be my pick for that award as well, I might even have him the favourite, but has Damar Hamlin already won that award?


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[Assistant] Throwing in that combo? And I think the key thing with Coach of the Year to the LeFleur Rogers thing is, it's Coach of the Year. You need to be able to identify the coaching aspect. And with Payton, it's the cleanest identification ever. It's like, oh, he fixed Russell Wilson. Coach of the Year. Bang.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah, baby, what's up? We're crazy here. It's Tuesday after Memorial Day. Ahmed Fareed is here. He did say crap on the last show. He couldn't explain one of the tears the quarterbacks were in because it had a bad word in it, but he did say crap and redeemed himself. Hope everybody had a good weekend.


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[Assistant] Yeah, baseball is back. I'm liking that new rule. Alright, so did you get to enjoy Memorial Day at all? Not really. No?


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[Assistant] Not much. Did you do the family grill out? I did. I had a good weekend. I did a little everything this weekend. Went out to Deed in New York City one night. Saw the Jersey family. Had to go there for a baptism.


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[Assistant] Got some workouts in, you know, me, had some drinky, drinky, smoky, smoky, uh, got in the pool a little bit.


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[Assistant] You know, yesterday did a little just like my family. We did, you know, steaks, barbecues, playing foot, playing.


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[Assistant] Right? It just feels good. Kids are winding down with school. We're winding down with work a little bit. So it's a good time of the year to be alive right now.


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[Assistant] Back to grinding. Back to the top 40 quarterback countdown. And more importantly to him, so glad, and I hope he walks by at some point, our boss, Sam Flood, from Boston. Just can't wait to tell him about the Heat winning last night. Can't wait to let him know. Hey, Heat won. You guys choked in game seven.


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[Assistant] And that's when the Heat win. The Heat are unreal that way. So that was fun to watch last night. Yep. Boston, who's been dominating sports for this century, has two seven game series losses this year. To eight seeds. Right, and to eight seeds. Never happened before in game sevens. So this might be a sign.


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[Assistant] We might be going back again. They might be going to 80 years of crapola like they did in the last century.


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[Assistant] Ohhhh. Order back, list. You know, put it on the kitchen table. Have a rough draft there. Order back, list. I leave it there like a puzzle a month.


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[Assistant] That we're talking about. We're talking about some guys where, yeaah, they, they, they gotta make it happen right now.


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[Assistant] Or they might get relegated to being a backup, or...


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[Assistant] Uh, these are important years to their career here to set themselves up and be in the right spot for the next three or four years, as you know, right? I mean, other than Josh Allen and Mahomes and Burrow, I mean, most guys in the NFL, I mean, you have a year or two of average, you're, they're looking to replace you.


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[Assistant] Right? So, and I think we got a group here that's kinda got, you know, some of that stuff there and they gotta have a good year to kinda solidify themselves as a starter or still being the guy.


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[Assistant] When I originally made this list, he was a few spots higher. He was. But then, as I started to dive in deeper and deeper, you know, and again, we're talking about, okay, you know, what he is right now, training camp, whatever.


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[Assistant] I gotta be real and take into account, wait, there's a little injury here with this guy that matters. And that's where we're gonna go to number 19, Kyler Murray. Alright? 19, Kyler Murray. Hey, this is still an incredible talent.


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[Assistant] You know, you kind of just said this might be the capped off group. This would be one guy I'd sit here and go, he can rise. He still has top 10 quarterback physical abilities.


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[Assistant] But we know that there's more than that in being quarterback. You know? One, yea, you, you, how can we not question the leadership and the, some of the stuff that surrounds Kyler Murray right now? You know? Again, is some of it fair? Certainly not.


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[Assistant] But is it real? Certainly. You can't avoid that. I don't think, right? I mean, you've heard all this stuff. Where there's smoke, there's fire. There's too many players, coaches, ex-players, all of that.


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[Assistant] Who all bring up that type of situation, let alone DeAndre Hopkins even talking about, hey, he wants to go to a place with a top quarterback and, you know, all those type of things. So there's just questions about Kyla Murray and his maturity and his ability to lead right now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he did. That was great. That was great that he stuck up for him that way. It was. It doesn't still change the perception that's out there.


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[Assistant] And some of that, you know, yeaah, is not fair, but some of that is Kyler Murray's own doing too. Some of that's the organization.


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[Assistant] Right? Some of that's Patrick Peterson and what he's said. Some of that's what, you know, other people who have played for Arizona have said behind the scenes a little, right? You know, so we've heard it all. You have something in your contract that says you have to watch film.


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[Assistant] It still was a thing, and obviously it wasn't a thing because it was not a thing, it was a thing because it was like, hey, we're kind of worried about him in this department, and we'd like to see him improve there. Alright, so that's where we are with Kyler Murray.


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[Assistant] When you talk about the, the talent of the guy, I mean, again, he's still one of the best runners in the sport. He's dangerous as hell. We know that. He's got an incredibly strong arm still. There's no doubt about that. But what I would say as a watching last year and even a little bit from notes I had from two years ago, one,


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[Assistant] Accuracy on big time throws and that has definitely declined and I think there's some mechanical things there where he lets his arm get so far behind him at times and angles where I'd go, no other quarterback in football does that. In fact, you don't ever see anybody throwing a football does that. It's really kind of a baseball motion.


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[Assistant] And at times that can lead him to, you know, I told you before we started the show, like a 20 yard crosser, right, where you might go, oh, he's open and the ball's just a little off target. And to me, a lot of the times is because of the way his mechanics are. It's just a lot of moving parts to throw the ball at times. Now you still got a quick release. Like I said, it's explosive arm.


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[Assistant] But it goes more into, we hit the leadership. Okay, we know the arm's good. You know, we know the running's good.


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[Assistant] What I still worry about is his size in the pocket. He can't always see in the pocket. I see a few plays, you know, every 10 drop back passes where I go, Ooh, that guy's kind of open over the middle. He needs to throw that or this guy's about to come open and you've got a little pressure, just slide and make the throw, but he will just,


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[Assistant] It's like, ooh, I got a little pressure and he just looks to run or make a move, right? Or maybe find the shorter throw. And to me, that's where some plays and some opportunities are left on the field. Let alone where I question and what we talked about here to start with the statement, you know,


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[Assistant] Can Kyler Murray win ugly games? Can he win ugly games 17 to 14? It's tough. You gotta hang in the pocket. The pockets collapse in every play. And, you know, there's some plays where the guy's open and you're just gonna have to take the shot and get hit and throw the 20 yard curl route, right? There's too much of that that does not happen in his game.


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[Assistant] Where I wanna go, and this is what always helps me when I watch them consecutively, cause then I can, this is what, these are the little things where I go, well, we're gonna talk about some other guys here in front of them. Then I go, yea, they don't have this physical ability.


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[Assistant] I could show you 8 or 10 plays that are similar to what he's got and they just stand in there and make the throw. And they go, so what, it's tight, I'm gonna get hit, but I'm big and I can handle that. And those are the things I question about him a little bit as we go along here.


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[Assistant] I feel like he tweaked his mechanics a little during that shoulder injury to probably deal with the pain or the discomfort or whatever and hasn't got back into what he was when he was in his first year of the NFL or first two years in the NFL. So that is, that is something. And you know, I just, hey, you know, again,


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[Assistant] He's got a quick release. I know he can hit little five yard outrounds, but you know what I always talk about. I mean, those power throws, those explosive plays, they're the biggest things in the sport right now.


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[Assistant] And you can't miss 15 yard outrouts or 20 yard incuts, whether you missed a throw or you can't see or you're just a little, hey, I'm small and I'm impatient in the pocket. You know, again, that's a reality, but it can't be an excuse. And those are things that, you know, he has to improve on, uh, in my, in my, in, in my opinion.


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[Assistant] I just, well, see, that's the thing. That's the other thing that's out there, right? So this is like, you know, a lot of people, this is where we're talking about like, hey, this is a big year. This is it right now.


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[Assistant] Just finagle, get out of it, right? But like, yeaah, this is where he's on the clock is ticking type of thing.


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[Assistant] You know, because we, we talk about, yeaah, they don't play well, and, you know, maybe he doesn't look the best coming off an injury, and oh no, now he can't run the same, and again, injury is why he's at 9-19 too. Yeaah, one of his greatest attributes has been taken away. He's not gonna be as mobile as he is, right, you know, right now, so I gotta kinda see that a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, just all of that, that perception, all of those type of things I think are all surrounding what we're talking about a little bit. Maybe a lack of maturity, a lack of detail, whatever you want to be. I'm not trying to be too judgmental. I'm a big fan of Kyler Murray. People should know that if you listen to me. But I think those are real things that are surrounding him, let alone


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[Assistant] We've talked about always, you know, there's certain teams in football that would never have Kyler Murray as a quarterback. They don't believe in that small quarterback because of the things I'm saying. Hey, when we play a good team in the NFC playoffs or whatever, we don't


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[Assistant] I do. I'm not giving up on that. I'm not. There's still too much ability. There is. But, you know, for all the things that were just said right there, yeaah, those are all real questions. They are. Let alone, yeaah, you know.


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[Assistant] Decisions, handling yourself, right body language that permeates through your team, the right attitude on the sideline. Yea, all of that's real. And DeAndre Hopkins is right. Yea, he gets held to a different standard. I mean, yea, Brady gets to say things.


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[Assistant] People go, oh, what a great leader and we've talked about this. Other guys say things and they go, oh man, how could he be like that? It's not always fair that way, but that is the, the, the, the facts of the matter right now.


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[Assistant] And, you know, to the point of what Bleacher Report said and some of that, I think that's what, you know, jumps out.


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[Assistant] When you watch some of the stuff there, where again, again, there's a lot of good plays and highlight plays and wow plays, but there's not enough of the consistent,


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[Assistant] B plus plays that you need, right? That's what I'm saying. He's got a lot of the A plus and A's where you go, woo, woo, woo, what a run, what a throw. Oh my gosh. But it's like, hey, this one just, hey, little subtle slide to the right and stand in there and throw the in cut. But instead we're, oh no, looking down and we gotta run. And it's like, no, you're good. Just stand there, throw it.


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[Assistant] This is Derrick Carr, the New Orleans Saints quarterback, right? Derrick Carr, you know, again, a guy that's been around for a long time.


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[Assistant] Uh, smart, right? I mean, you know he's gonna attack the game with the right professional attitude. A reliable veteran. Really exciting, uh, breakdown of your 18-


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[Assistant] I know, well hey, a reliable veteran but safe decision maker who just never seems to let it fly. And he came up, it's a down year for Derek Carr, right? I mean he's a guy that


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[Assistant] We've had years where he's four or five spots ahead of this. He's been fringe top 10. He was 11 last year. Right. So he's got some ability there, but the last year was bad and I don't know where.


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[Assistant] You know, we're gonna see where it goes here with New Orleans, but I think with Derek Carr, like I talked about, you know, knows how to play the position, I know that. You know, good, quick, tight release, good decision maker, got good, quick feet in the pocket, right? All that. Has touch and anticipation.


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[Assistant] You know, my big thing, and you've heard me say this in years past, where I thought last year it was, two years ago it was better, this year he took a step back in this department. He is too safe of a decision maker, you know? And he, not only too safe of a decision maker,


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[Assistant] You know, tough situations where I go, oh no, you gotta throw the heater right here and you gotta, you know, put some juice on it and hit the guy right in front of the numbers and he's open and do it.


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[Assistant] Right? Where he can be reluctant to throw that ball or he throws a ball where he throws it really safe and he's like, Hey, maybe my guy gets it or no guy gets it. And I want to go, okay, that's okay. But you know, Hey, you're playing a good team here. You got to throw this strike here in this moment.


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[Assistant] And those are things that, you know, he can miss at times. Like I wrote, he can't always paint the corners with his fastball. I want more tight window throw accuracy. He can do it, but it's like he doesn't trust himself at times. Right? Cause you see it. I see every now and then I go, oh, there it is.


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[Assistant] Now why didn't he do it the next six times in the same opportunity? That's where I don't get.


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[Assistant] You know, at times. And then, you know, doesn't let down plays develop enough. That would be the other thing that was real negative to me. Where, you know, again, drop back to pass, and it's different than Kyler Murray here. Drop back to pass, hey, you've been playing football a while. You can see that corner rat's about to come open against this coverage. You're protected.


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[Assistant] Another negative of his game right now, uh, that hurt a little bit this last year.


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[Assistant] Because he has the ability to run an offense and execute the offense. That's where he's got some of those guys beat. Right?


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[Assistant] But like Sam Darnold, where I like, he'll let it fly, maybe a little too much, but like he'll be like, I'm gonna elevate, I can see this 20 yard route's gonna come up, I'm gonna hang in here and throw it. So Derek Carr at his best does what? Derek Carr at his best does, has a great blend of letting the system work for him,


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[Assistant] And then having some, you know, difference making, a splash of difference making plays or throws every game. That's what I feel like we saw in their playoff run two years ago. Surgical, can do the offense, make right decision, right decision, and every now and then we need you to make a play to Eric Carr and he can, he did that. This past year,


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[Assistant] Told you about the downfield plays. You know, see it over and over. Missed big play opportunities all year long. And then, you know,


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[Assistant] I think that's the other thing you look at too. And again, we talk about, you know, some other guys and some tough situations or whatever else.


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[Assistant] Hey, I know he was learning a new offense and that's part of the problem here too. But it's like, some of it's like, man, it doesn't matter what offense you're in. This play is the same in Gruden's offense or McDaniel's offense and you're too good to make that decision or not go to the second guy here or whatever else. There's that.


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[Assistant] The misthrows and turnovers and lack of aggressive plays in big moments.


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[Assistant] We're a huge part of the Raiders not getting to the playoffs or the record they had this year. That was the one thing when I started to go back and watch his games, whether it's


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[Assistant] Horrible turnover at the, in the Rams game when they're in control. Or missing horrible turnovers and missed throws and big moments against the Steelers. Missing Hunter Renfro wide open down the middle. You know, some plays left on the board in the Jaguars game where they were up 27 to 10. He could have made a few plays and put the game away.


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[Assistant] There's just, there's a lot of that this past year, and uh, I think that's what leads me to, to make him number, you know, what the hell number, only on 18.


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[Assistant] Well, I get that, but a little bit of that is like, circumstance, lack of other options, they never brought anybody in to compete with them. I mean, again,


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[Assistant] All that is all good, but it's also like, it didn't translate to a ton of wins, and it led to one playoff game. Right? Well let me, but let me say this to you now.


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[Assistant] Knowing that group there, like the things I explained and I think the leadership style and all that, I just don't think that's their cup of tea, right?


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[Assistant] You know, now listen, I know the Jimmy Garoppolo situation has certainly made things interesting there, right? Uh, I get what you're saying.


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[Assistant] But I think he's more of their cup of tea stand in the pocket. Oh, it's tight window. We don't care. And you know, Jimmy likes that.


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[Assistant] You know, statistics and all that, but yeah, can we question, can he take a team and carry them on the back, on his back? You know, can he be the kind of leader that, you know, the whole team rallies around? I think those are still questionable type of things in his career there. You know, he doesn't have big time, you know, physical ability.


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[Assistant] A little above average athlete for the NFL quarterback this day and age, right? And a little above


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[Assistant] Average arm strength for the NFL quarterback this day and age. That doesn't mean you can't be successful and real good, but you know, you need to be


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[Assistant] Really good in some of these other departments if those are some of your physical qualities, you know, you're bringing to the table.


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[Assistant] Get the ball out, quick decisions, don't hang in the pocket and all that. So he could look better this year. Where like, and it's look, and Gruden's offense a lot of time is short to long, is the look. Where McDaniel's in New England, it's again, it's Bill Parcell's the giant, it's


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[Assistant] Definitely long to short, and it's hang in there, cause you see that guy's gonna be open, and I don't, that's maybe not his best part of his game there, right? To where I think this offense, and where Gruden is,


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[Assistant] You know, west coast, get the ball out, smart decision, get it out, get it out, get it out.


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[Assistant] Just keep doing that and then they dial up the big play, right? That's what they do. That's what Gruden does.


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[Assistant] Here's five yards, eight yards, five yards, five yards, five yards. Okay, they're playing a little bit too much of that. Hey, remember that play we drew up on Wednesday? Here comes the corner post for 60, right? You know when I call this, I want you to throw the post, period, right? Where, in, in like McDaniel's offense, it's part of the read, and it's like, what, the corner post was there, why the hell didn't you stand in there and make the throw?


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[Assistant] Right? And it's a little different that way. So that's where the offensive rhythm mindset's a little different, and I don't know if it fit, you know, some Patiko there. Uhm, but we'll see. He's a guy that I know is driven, he works hard.


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[Assistant] And maybe just need a new change of scenery and he gets back into an offense that fits him.


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[Assistant] The Saints and the Falcons would be my two favorites and the Saints, I mean, if you made me bet money, I'd probably bet on the Saints just because of the Derek Hart situation. You know, again, really good defense, offensive line's very good, they can run the ball, and we've hit on it.


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[Assistant] You talk about Michael Thomas back in the fold with Olavi and Rashid Shahid and Jawan Johnson at running back, I mean at tight end and you know, Camara depending on his situation of suspension and all that.


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[Assistant] I mean, they have a chance, I think, to be definitely one of those teams that kind of rises on the scene. You'd bet on Derek Carr having a better year than he had last year. Definitely. I would. I would. Listen, he's been through a lot. I think it's this change of scenery, a little new energy, all of that will do him a lot of good here, and I'm excited for his new start in New Orleans.


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[Assistant] Ahmed Fareed's favorite quarterback in football, Jared Goff. That is true. That's right. Hey.


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[Assistant] I know I haven't been like the biggest Jared Goff supporter in the past and all that, but there's no doubt about it that that was definitely his best season, alright? No doubt.


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[Assistant] Got a limited upside, but he's more talented than he gets credit for, right? That would be the thing that I would throw out there with Jared Goff. And, you know, big, tough, right? Has an underrated feel for the game. And what I mean by that is just like what we're saying. Like, you've heard me bring it up two or three times now.


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[Assistant] Having a feel for what's gonna be there. Oh, this place called, and ooh, I'm gonna get this coverage, and, you know.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, I should have this guy open or this guy should be here to me make this type of throw. Oh wait. Yup. It's exactly what I thought. Oh wait, I got to buy a little time or send him my back foot and I'm going to get a 30 yard completion. He's, he's got a good feel that way or good feel for how the game's going overall. And then he can get really conservative and be like, wait,


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[Assistant] We're in a defensive struggle, and I'm not gonna take any chances. But overall, a pretty aggressive decision maker. You know, and I said, big, tough,


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[Assistant] Underrated feel for the game. The thing I love about him and your fearless Detroit Lions quarterback is he is fearless. I mean, he wants to stand in the pocket and make throws.


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[Assistant] And that's where I do like him. He doesn't have the sexiest release, right? It's a little long and elongated at times. He doesn't throw great spirals, but when you want to...


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[Assistant] You know, 20 yard crossing route, 30, 40 yard corner route, things like that. He's a good deep ball thrower and he's not afraid to throw.


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[Assistant] What I call the power explosive play type of throws into tight windows and he doesn't flinch when he does it and that has made your offense very dangerous and tough to deal with last year. That coupled with the run game you guys had and a few creative screens here and there and now you're defending the whole field and that's where I give Jared Goffel a lot of credit.


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[Assistant] I think they pushed him. I think he realized, wait, my back's against the wall for my professional starting quarterback career here. I gotta start to make some plays and throws where


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[Assistant] Yeaah, maybe I didn't have to doom him in LA cause we were real good. My defense was awesome and my coach said, hey, you know, if it's not there, don't take a chance cause we'll hand it off to Gurley or throw a screen to him later and he'll break one. Don't worry. So just, you know, don't force it.


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[Assistant] They pushed the envelope with him a little bit, and you see that, and it's made him a more dangerous quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, he's a below average gambler and he could be better than that because he's not a bad athlete. Like I talked to you before, the podcast is like,


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[Assistant] I mean, bootlegs, you know, uh, play action passes, every now and then he does scramble, he can run. He needs to expand that part of his game, right? That's something that he's missing. His arm power is better than you think.


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[Assistant] You know, I talked about his delivery being long and deliberate, and that's something I wish he would get a little bit better at. There's no variety of releases or anything over that, but because of his size and the way he does release the ball,


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[Assistant] He's one of those few quarterbacks that can throw over the line of scrimmage. People in his face and he can still kind of just stand tall and get his arm up high and throw a 15 yard in cut over the middle. I give a lot, there's plays like that to be had in the NFL a lot and we don't give them credit sometimes.


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[Assistant] Right? And, and he capitalizes on that. He, he's not gonna be able to like flick it or throw like, you know, anything like, ooh, I'm about to get hit and let me flick it that way. That's not what he does. Alright? Uhm, what else did I want to say? He's not great off of his back, back foot if he's getting pressure that way. Okay?


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[Assistant] Like I said, he's a really good deep ball thrower. The things with him is, you know, he's not gonna carry your team, he's not gonna do a lot much off schedule, but he sees the field well, he understands the big picture of the game, and he makes more power throws than you think.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeaah, I don't know if he'll go to the top 10, you know, I don't know, it depends on that, but I think what if he does it back to back, it's so like, again, the clock stops ticking, and we go, no, no, no, no, no, he's gonna get an extension, right? Or he's gonna go somewhere and be the starter and get another one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, got a lot in front of him. You know, he's improved his game. We'll see if they can continue to improve upon that within their culture and all that. But yes, it's brought something to him.


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[Assistant] More of these offensive output is because of him and his ability.


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[Assistant] And, and his, his, his throws and decisions rather than like I used to say silver platter plays where it's like,


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[Assistant] Oh, Sean McVeigh dialed out the first perfect play and the whole defense is screwed and there's a wide open guy for five yard throw that he's gonna run for 70. Can you hit that guy and we'll pay you 40 million a year. And that's what it was. Now it's like,


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[Assistant] No, no, we're not gonna come up with all those shenanigans. We got a bunch of awesome plays and we're gonna call him and, hey, the 20 yard outrout is there, throw it. I don't care, he's open by 7 inches, throw it. And that's where he has upped his game.


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[Assistant] So, I think that's fair to say. There's a lot of pieces there. O-line's legit. You talked about the running back thing. You know, Laporta, I mean, you know, that was my second favorite title in the draft. Jameson Williams, when he does come back from his gambling thing, he's gonna be a difference maker.


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[Assistant] There's been rumors that like maybe DeAndre Hopkins might get involved in this conversation with Detroit. I can see them.


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[Assistant] Okay, I won't jinx it, but it wouldn't be shocking. He would fit that style of...


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[Assistant] Get the clock to stop ticking or, you know, does he leave more meat on the bone when we go, oh man, I don't know, Detroit needs to, to, to find, you know, the quarterback of the future. But this is where it's different too. They're going to be a better team. You know, where he's hard too, that quarterback play, you know, and it,


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[Assistant] Offense is really good, like you said. Ben Johnson is really good. We named all the things that go along with it. And then also, when your defense stinks, it does embolden the quarterback.


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[Assistant] Because it's just like, hey, we gotta throw and go, and they're just, it's just, the offensive coordinator is aggressive as hell. It could be different this year if you're in more 13-10 situations, 17-14 situations, right? To lend itself to a little more pressure on the quarterback in those situations rather than


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[Assistant] There was some of that that does make the game easier for a quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, I hear what you're saying there. I don't know what we're going to get out of Stafford, too. That's certainly one of the questions I had as I was going through this evaluation as well. How could age and him not being beat up and all that not play into where he's ranked? And he's lower than I've had him.


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[Assistant] Quite some time. So, uh, yeaah, I, I, I don't think you're


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[Assistant] Man, yeaah. I mean, I go into this with an open mind every year. You know me, I'm not trying to like, oh, I like this guy because he sent me flowers once and I'm, uh, I don't even know what I'm saying. He said one nice thing to me, so I want to keep him in the top 12 or 15.


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[Assistant] I try to be as real and honest with myself as I can in this, alright?


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[Assistant] He did not send me flowers. He did not. But, but, so like, you know, the headline with Tannahill would be this. Tannahill is not the problem with the Titans. Consistent as it gets, uh,


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[Assistant] The question is, does he give the team a championship edge, right?


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[Assistant] And that's probably where we look at, ooh, are they trying to replace him? Right? Is it Malik Willis? Oh, it's Will Levis, right? He's not the kind of guy that, I don't know, maybe necessarily like walks in the locker room, like some of the top quarterbacks and they go, we got a chance to win today for sure. He's, he's here, right? He's here.


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[Assistant] Now this, this is guy that's just an important piece of the puzzle.


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[Assistant] He's a leader, but a quiet leader, right? He's, he's not gonna be, to me, the guy that's like, hey, jump on my back, guys, here, I'll carry us today, throw for 400, do any of that. But it seems like Mike Vrabel is one of those guys that thinks- I think so too. He can bring it. Vrabel's, you know, New England. Hey, I'm not looking for a-


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[Assistant] Diva quarterback that's looking to be, you know, the star of the show all the time. I just want a guy that's gonna, you know, run the offense, lead the troops in the right direction, and not be a distraction, right? There's some of those out there, and I think Vrebo believes in that style.


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[Assistant] I mean, again, I think you can go to the Super Bowl with Ryan Tannehill and win the Super Bowl. You know? You put Ryan Tannehill on the 49ers a few years ago instead of Jimmy Garoppolo, they're the Super Bowl champs. Period. Period.


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[Assistant] And here's where we're going to get into Ryan Tannehill a little bit. One of the most consistent passers in all the NFL.


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[Assistant] And here's where it's amazing when I watch his film. And I know you guys can all go look at his stats and go, eh, they're not that good. But what's that got to do with Ryan Tannehill? We all have to stop the putting the whole, the team's problems on one player thing we got going on in this world, right? It's a team sport.


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[Assistant] Rarely do I come away from a game and studying him and say, man, yards, points, completions, they were all left on the field. Oh man, he left so many plays. I mean, not at all.


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[Assistant] In fact, I look at it and go, he's one of the better maximizers of what an offense has to get. I mean.


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[Assistant] What I talked about with his consistent passing and all that, he's, he's fearless decision and makes, has unreal confidence in his accuracy to throw the ball in the tight windows. I mean, he throws balls on me consistently where you watch it and you go, oh, strike. Okay.


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[Assistant] You go, that's gonna be a pick, I can't believe he's gonna throw that. Boom, on the money.


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[Assistant] He's throwing an outroute against Green Bay. Looks like it's going to get an undercut. Boom. Bullseye. Strike. 12 yard game. Looks like it was going to be a pick six. Boom. It's just so much of that.


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[Assistant] He's amazing that way. He's fearless in the pocket, right? Mechanics are flawless. Never loses control of the ball. Great deep ball thrower, right? Doesn't need much room for his release, alright? Doesn't have a variety or anything like that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but his motion is tight, so he can hang in there with people around him and make some big throws still. Fearless decision, like I said, as far as the power throws. He's another one where, like a Jared Goff or whatever, and this is even more so.


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[Assistant] Where you go, this is an above average NFL athlete. There's a guy that went to Texas A&M as a division one wide receiver. He needs to run more. He's got a little bit of that Daniel Jones, what we used to talk about, Statue of Liberty in there, where you're just like move.


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[Assistant] You're on the third read. It's not their move. Like get out. You're too good of an athlete. You throw the ball well on the run. That's where.


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[Assistant] He could definitely be better. He does not have a lot of variety of releases. So that's, you know, those are the negatives. Let alone, we talked about he's not the guy that's necessarily going to be a leader or give the team an edge. You know, not that that's bad, but it's not a positive either, I guess is what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] Sure. I think he's realistic. He knows. He knows he's the kind of guy that's like, man, I'm good. People in the NFL world respect me, but I'm the kind of guy the fans always want to go, well, we could do better. We could get somebody else, right?


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[Assistant] And I wanna go, be careful what you wish for, because, hmm, let me see, how did the team look last year when Ryan Tannehill didn't play? Oh, that's right, like shit. They looked like shit without him.


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[Assistant] So, you know, that was not an easy situation for the Titans, but damn, this is still a really good football player. He really is. You know, I, hey, he, I wish he had a better backyard.


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[Assistant] Backyard-ness to his game, right? He can lock onto a receiver.


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[Assistant] Hey, everybody in the world has got down on him ever since the Bangles playoff game interceptions, right? And I would say, like that first interception, that's one of his negatives. Where you go, yeaah, he can, he's got such great confidence in his arm and his accuracy, he can stare down people a little too long at times, right?


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[Assistant] Man, other than that, like I said, I'm big in decision making. What was left on the field? Did we take the five yard completion when there was a 30 yarder to be had? He never misses in that department.


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[Assistant] And the last thing I want to say, just to end the conversation, is who the hell did he have around him to make him look so good at receiver last year anyways? Well that's the problem. Exactly. Even going into this year too, right? You have Derek


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're, this is, uh, uh, a questionable position group with them. The Titans are a team right now you kind of look at and go, yeah, what, what are the Titans going to be as far as a football team this year? That's what I'm, I'm not totally, I'm not totally sure what they're going to be.


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[Assistant] Panahilla be efficient and hit the big plays when they're there and we just hope to be ugly in the playoffs at some point and then ugly win a few playoff games to go along with it.


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[Assistant] Sexiness in the pass game? I don't know if I see that. Like you said. I mean...


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[Assistant] Is there really, seriously, is there anybody else worthy talking about out of the receiving group that like is a household name? No. No, right?


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[Assistant] Westbrook Akina is their other go-to guy other than Traylon Burks. They got some tight ends with some potential, and we'll see where that goes. But again, that's where I'm here to do this ranking, to tell you that this guy is better than what stats and everything say.


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[Assistant] And if you put him in some different situations, he'd look a lot better than what he looks like. He's in a tough spot that's not necessarily conducive to awesomeness at the quarterback position.


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[Assistant] Cause Gino's one of those where if we watched it, you'd go.


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[Assistant] Damn Gino's good. Damn what a throw. His arm strength and pocket movement wows me when I watch him.


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[Assistant] It's wowing. It is. When you really start to break it down, you know, and listen, he was in my original draft after I started watching this guy, he was right here in this region for the reasons I'm saying.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it's, it's like, you watch him and you go, whoa, his arm's strong. You go, whoa, does he throw a perfect spiral every throw?


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[Assistant] Right? Whoa! He's got a really quick release. Whoa! Off his back foot, he can throw unbelievable throws with ease. Whoa! With his feet, like, hopping in the air like Iron Rogers, he can flick it and throw a 12-yard outroute, and his feet aren't on the ground.


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[Assistant] Right? His physical ability is wowing. It's wowing. And I know that's hard, like, cause everyone's like, wait, he's a backup quarterback for 25 years before he finally got a chance, right? And all that.


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[Assistant] That's, that's what's amazing. And then you talk about being a big dude.


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[Assistant] And then, um, can run and scramble on top of that.


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[Assistant] I'd look at that and just go, wow, I mean there's a lot of positives to Gino. The biggest negative that I can come away with is just, I gotta see it again.


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[Assistant] It's one year. And I don't know if it's, can he replicate it? Is this who he is? Or was that just a one year, ooh, we, you know, energy bump and nobody expected us to win in Seattle and all these types of things and just the stars aligned the right way. We'll see, but I'm guessing not. Seattle's


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[Assistant] I don't think he just, he never got those opportunities to show himself again. You know, that was really the big thing. Sometimes like, you know, as a player,


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[Assistant] I can speak to this to my own personal self. Where, you know, again, I'm not trying to say I was ever a top 15 quarterback in football. What I'm trying to say is though, that, you know, like, I got hurt


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[Assistant] I never really got a chance to play an extended period of time to show people that I was back to being close to what I was before the hurt.


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[Assistant] Oh, a little preseason here and he got in a drive in the regular season game and really didn't do anything great. And all of a sudden the perception goes, becomes.


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[Assistant] Well, he just, he's not been the same since the injury, right?


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[Assistant] And I think that's what happened to Gino a little bit. Like, oh, there must be something missing with the guy. Something, something. Cause nobody ever got to see it enough. Or got to see it, especially in a real game situation to finally go, you know what? We're going to pay him a lot of money to come in and be the backup here. Like, he never caught those opportunities. I think the, and again, maybe,


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[Assistant] He wouldn't have been ready for it six years ago. Who knows? All I know is right now, the stars have aligned where he's puttin' a spot.


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[Assistant] And he is the perfect quarterback for the weapons they got around him.


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[Assistant] And he can capitalize on all that's there to be had. That's what I love. I mean, when you, I mean, Aman, he looks to strike, you know, again.


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[Assistant] Right? Moves in the pockets, like the good ones, like you've been hearing me say. It's move, hey wait, I know this coverage, I know this big throw's gonna be here, oh wait I got pressure.


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[Assistant] I'm not just gonna like abandon ship or throw the ball away or tuck it down and start running. I'm gonna just like slide a little bit because I'm gonna, I wanna unleash the crack in here and throw a 30 yard laser down the middle. I mean he leaves nothing on the field. You wanna talk about


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[Assistant] Like, things we talked about with Tannehill a second ago, or some of the other guys, like Jared Goff not being able to throw off his back foot. Man, Gino Smith!


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[Assistant] I mean, first off, the one thing you don't realize or I didn't give him credit for going back to watch is they were horrible pass protecting. I don't know what their, his pressure number was.


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[Assistant] He was under pressure a ton and made a ton of throws with, again, back to the Kyler Murray thing, right, and some of those where I go, pocket collapsing people all around him and instead of looking for the check down or somewhere to run,


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[Assistant] He just stands in there and throws strikes and big time high level throws and that's where, you know, I was really, I think a little bit in awe of how many great high level throws he made.


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[Assistant] Right, and they got the rookie tackles from last year, they're gonna be


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[Assistant] And I know there's going to be some guys that are in front of them here that they didn't have as good a year, but I'm going to go, okay, you know, I'm not going to just necessarily put Gino in front of them because of one year and go, oh, now he's a better player than that guy. No way.


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[Assistant] You know, I gotta see a little bit more too, but man, to your point.


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[Assistant] I mean, the potential's real. They're scarier, they're talent-wise. They don't have your Detroit Lions offensive line, and they don't have the offenses as creative as Ben Johnson. That would be another thing where, you know,


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[Assistant] Their offense is good, it's better than yours past, but it's still one where I go, eh, I wish it was a hair more creative, had a few more answers for things there.


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[Assistant] You know, the other thing too that was really impressive for a guy who hasn't played as well, or hasn't played a lot, and also is an aggressive decision maker, like we're talking about, and you heard me say this before the pod, you know, he, he was not protected well, and he was in a lot of situations where you're like,


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[Assistant] Whoa, there's people around you and don't do something stupid here. Don't be getting swung to the ground and try to throw the ball over the middle like, you know, James Winston stuff or whatever. He did a great job of not making bad situations worse. He is a great, you know, breaker governor to know like, okay,


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[Assistant] You know, this is aggressive, but this is stupid, right? And that's where he was really good. He makes a ton of plays where people are getting close to bringing him to the ground. He throws a five yard outroute and gets five yards and you're like, whoa, what arm strength and the ability to get it out there and do that.


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[Assistant] You know, so he did a really good job in things like that where I wouldn't expect for as little as he's played to be as good as in some of those departments.


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[Assistant] He broke that perception. He did, right? He didn't write back. He didn't write back. And that's another thing.


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[Assistant] Like, he's got a little edge about him. They rallied around Gino a little. They like Gino. I know that. I've talked to people out there. Pete Carroll likes him. They think he's a good leader for their football team. He's just right. And I think coming off the guy they had right before that, you know, they're just, he's a little refreshing.


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[Assistant] Russell's really damn good too. Russell's situation was tough last year. And to what we were just saying, alright, Russell, you know, it's, I can't just because of one year and Gino's year was better, I know that.


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[Assistant] But still, I can't put him in front of Russell Wilson with the body of work and still where he's at physically as a football player.