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[Assistant] Well, you know, Brentz, I'm gonna mention that the whole, uh, Picking Games was a struggled early part of the season, but the early best bet's 3-1 last week, so we just started doing this, we're on a roll already.


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[Assistant] The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It looks like Tom Brady has lost all interest in football. The offense can't move. They can't do anything. They barely score points against the Carolina freaking Panthers and it's not like this was just one game. This is a pattern. They have just looked horrible.


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[Assistant] I still, while Brinson Cops, I still like the Ravens, even though they're favorite. I went for one point dog, one point favorite, still like them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we know the Ravens have the horses that run the ball. And real quick, the Ravens have had a double digit lead in every single game they've played this year. And if they do continue that run and get a double digit lead against the Buccaneers, the Buccaneers just feel like a team that, that don't have the offensive courses to come back from.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, we're getting off the prime time game. We're going to Patriots Jets. You know what Princeton, one of our favorite things, and you even got made fun of for this, is that Bill Belichick loves to beat.


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[Assistant] His old teams. There is nothing he enjoys more than beating the Cleveland Browns and the New York Jets. We said pound the Patriots when they played the Browns a couple weeks ago. Now I am saying the same thing with the Patriots playing the Jets. Patriots have won 12 straight against the Jets and in this game,


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[Assistant] I mean, we'll find out, cause Mack Jones could play Monday. I don't think he will, but I do think he will play in this game in week eight.


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[Assistant] With Raiders Saints, the Raiders 2.5 point favorites.


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[Assistant] Uh, and you know, Britson, this might sound a little ridiculous, but I actually think the Raiders are good. I know their record, and Bill Parcell says you are what your record says you are, and they're two and four, but all four losses were by one score. They're only a few plays away from being six and oh, five and one, so.


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[Assistant] I think this team is much better than the record says. Josh Jacobs has been on an absolute tear. He has got three games in the month of October where he's gone over 140 yards rushing. You know how many games he had going over 140 before the month of October in his career?


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[Assistant] Zero! He had never done it. Now he's done it in every game he's played in October. It's insane. And when Josh Jacobs is playing well, that opens up the rest of the offense because, you know, Derek Hart actually has time back there. Teams can't just go try and kill him, uh, which they usually do and that makes him make mistakes. So I like the Raiders here, uh, to cover against the Saints who just haven't looked that great. So you're telling me there's a chance.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's go with the 49ers favored by two over the Rams. I like San Francisco and I am betting on history here. I am betting on the 49ers because Kyle Shanahan has absolutely dominated Sean McBey over the past few years.


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[Assistant] When we look at just regular season games, the 49ers have won seven straight against the Rams.


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[Assistant] He's so good at drawing up game plans. He keeps things away from Aaron Donald so that Aaron Donald doesn't control the game and become this wrecking ball, uh, who messes up with the 49ers are trying to do.


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[Assistant] And so I think it's gonna be a lot easier, uh, because Kyle Shannon's gonna have an entire week to devise something for Christian McCaffrey instead of 36 hours. And so that's going to make the 49ers offense tougher to stop. So I like San Francisco in this spot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would say the only way it doesn't shift towards the Patriots is if they somehow get upset, but it just seems... I don't want to say highland liking because NFL has been so crazy this year, but I don't think it will happen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I would say if you wanna, uh, put up points on the Falcons, you need to take advantage of their secondary like Joe Burrow did, and the Panthers are not exactly built to do that. Uh, and because of that, it's hard to see them putting up a ton of points. Uh, but the one thing, if you do like the Falcons here, they have scored at least 23 points in five of their seven games.


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[Assistant] But these, you know, these two are division rivals, so it's a little bit different where they know each other, uh, so that adds.


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[Assistant] Uh, another element into it. So yeaah, I mean, I could see the total going down, but I, I, I, I don't even, I don't like this over under at all. So I, I would just stay away from it personally.


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[Assistant] Well, real quick, the 49ers rams three of their past five games, including that playoff game, were decided by exactly three points.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean the Colts have scored 10 points or less in two of the past three weeks.


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[Assistant] And their games, it's not like they're blowing teams. I mean, they beat Kansas City by three. They had a tie game. They beat the Broncos by three. Their only win of more than four and a half points this season was against Jacksonville. And even that was somewhat of a fluky game. So it does seem weird that they're getting this many points.


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[Assistant] You're making up numbers, you're taking games you can't pick, I mean what the hell?


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[Assistant] It should be outta there, it should be outta there by tomorrow in South Carolina.


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[Assistant] In fairness to James, he has a bad back. Uhm, but he's not playing well. I think Dalton will play well. And I think this will be a defensive game. Uhm, you know, but their defense has played well.


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[Assistant] Uh, but they're just not score points and they don't score points until late in game. So, but I think this time around, I think their defense will keep minutes. I'll take the saints as part of a teaser.


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[Assistant] And I'll give you the second half of it later, but I'll take the saints as part of the teaser.


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[Assistant] It is, it is, RJ, and I'll take, I'll take the Texans plus the 11 as part of the teaser to close it out. So I got Saints plus nine, Texans plus 11. I think this Chargers team is, is hurting in a big way right now.


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[Assistant] You lose two of your best players. I mean, that's two of the five best players on that team. They're gone. It might be two of the best, three best players on that team. Rashawn Slater, gone for the year. They have problems protecting anyway. Uh, and then they don't run the ball that well. And then you get in the other side of the ball and you don't have Joey Bosa now. And they've been banged up in a bunch of other spots.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think the Texans at home getting points, you know, their defense has played well. Davis Mills through a terrible, terrible interception at the end of that game. They could have won that game, probably should have won that game.


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[Assistant] But as it turns out, they didn't, but I still think they hang around in this game. Wouldn't shock me at all to see them pull off an upset. I don't think the Chargers are that good right now, and I think they have major questions. So I'll take Texans closing out the teaser plus the 11.


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[Assistant] So now you have a left side of your line, which is the backside of that quarterback that stinks.


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[Assistant] This is a tough game for me and reason being, you know, Jacksonville leads the league in rush defense. Last year, the Saints led the league in rush defense. They went to go play the Eagles. What happened?


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[Assistant] They gashed them for over 200. It's a hard team to prepare for.


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[Assistant] And by that I mean they don't know yet. Their confidence level is out of this world right now from people I talked to inside that building. They walk around like they actually think they're really, really good. And that was before Sunday's game.


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[Assistant] There are teams adjusting to what they're doing in the second half. So I'm going to take Jacksonville plus the points and it wouldn't astound me if they won the game.


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[Assistant] Why are you tooting your horn? Are you the only guy that picked them?


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[Assistant] So what's going to stop these two quarterbacks from rolling up big numbers? I don't see it. I'll take the over 51 and a half is the best bet.


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[Assistant] It's a shame those two quarterbacks don't have good arms. I mean, cause that'll ruin, I mean, come on.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I'm gonna take the overs best bet 49 and a half. I mean, the Lions have scored up until the last quarterly of the day, they scored in every possession. They haven't been stopped and they've been putting up big numbers. And I know St. Brown's dinged up. That's a concern. Swift is dinged up. That's a concern. But the Seattle defense is awful.


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[Assistant] It's terrible. They can't stop anybody. And I think that's gonna be a problem. Geno Smith is completing 75% of his passes. The Lions aren't exactly great on defense either. So I'm gonna go over 49 and a half as my best bet.


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[Assistant] And look, Elena's, they're feisty, they're, they're smart, they're, he plays well, their offense runs a lot of great things and they're tough to stop. But I think this Browns team is going to run all over them this week. I think it's going to be one of those games where they pound it, pound it, pound it. And Brissette's playing better than, than I thought he would play. And so I think he'll make enough throws here. I'll take the Browns minus the small number.


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[Assistant] And I think that they, I mean, you think about it, if Tark picks off the ball in the championship game, they don't win the Super Bowl. And that was on the road. I think they're going to come in here and limit what the Rams do. The Rams haven't looked like the Rams yet.


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[Assistant] I still think there's some Super Bowl hangover going on there. And I think the 49ers will play well enough to win this game. And, and, and so I'll take the 49ers minus small number.


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[Assistant] Desperation is an amazing thing in the NFL. Oh, interesting. Oh, right. Interesting why desperation is different than, than revenge. You're talking about a motivation.


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[Assistant] No, they're not going to play harder. They just have to win. It's a must win. They're not going to play any harder. It's just a great spot, just like last week for the Colts. It was a must win for them. This is a must win for the Raiders. And for that reason, I think they find a way.


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[Assistant] Yesterday on our show, Brady Quinn tried to say, oh, well, that last drive is what you expect from Russell Wills gonna get him going. Well, where has it been? Hasn't been good the whole year. So I think the Raiders will find a way to score points in this game, and I think they will limit what the Braggos do. I'll take the Raiders and their desperate, desperate situation to cover the number.


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[Assistant] The offensive line wasn't nearly as bad, they played much better.


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[Assistant] And I think that's important. Uh, Tennessee does not rush the passer that well. So and Pierce got going at wide receiver, which is a good sign. I'm going to take the Colts minus the number, but I don't love this game.


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[Assistant] The Steelers have to get the ball to those playmakers on the outside. And I think this is an opportunity to do that. So I'll take the Steelers. It's not a best bet.


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[Assistant] Well think about this, if he had not, and it still could be, if he didn't get the extension, this would be the first guy fired bowl. Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] I just don't see talent on that Arizona team right now. They're not playing very well.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I'm gonna take the Giants here, uh, but man, these, these are not two, two in one team, I can tell you that.


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[Assistant] So I'll guess, he has a broken leg. If you write that, you're going to be wrong. Well, then tell me what he actually has. That's all you got to do. You know, it's just these guys.


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[Assistant] Should have shredded them. Uh, I'll take the Packers minus the points. I don't love it, but it's a big number, but I'll take them anyways.


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[Assistant] The commanders were my best bet last week across the board. It's one of the worst picks any human beings ever made. Give me Dallas.


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[Assistant] I mean, I just think Dallas, you know, the whole talk about Cooper Rush quarterback controversy, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.


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[Assistant] And there are people that actually believe that. It's idiotic.


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[Assistant] Dak Prescott comes back. He's the quarterback. The Cowboys are better. I think they run the ball well. Their offensive line's getting better. I'll take the Cowboys minus the points.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and, uh, the right tackle Cosme was terrible, but they were not alone the whole line stopped.


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[Assistant] While you were late, Brunson, coming to the podcast as per usual, uh, Billy and I were informed that Breach is in fact wearing a onesie, a bingles onesie.


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[Assistant] It's like a fleece, it's like a pajama material hoodie.


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[Assistant] Hold on. He, he didn't run. He sort of jogged and he stumbled and he stumbled down to a knee with no one around him.


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[Assistant] It's one of those things that apparently according to neurologists and neurosurgeons and anyone that studies the brain, it makes it clear that you've had a, a serious, uh,


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[Assistant] One was in game and one was after. Just for clarification, I'm not saying I was right or wrong, but just so we're clear. Yep.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think that even matters. That has nothing to do with it. It's not necessarily their job. We can just as much talk about what we think as what that crew thinks.


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[Assistant] Of course, but that's, you could argue, part of the problem. I'm not going to fault Richard Sherman, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Andrew Whitworth, who've been out of the league for 15 minutes for not going all in on this.


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[Assistant] No, of course not. Whether it's the Dolphins, whether it was the neurologist in charge of it, whether it was the NFL, wherever the finger needs to be pointed, tuition to come on after halftime last week. And I said that at the time. That's not, you don't have to be smart to know that. I mean, clearly, cause if I'm saying it, any moron with


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[Assistant] No yea, Bill and I were talking about this before the podcast, NBA, NBA guys don't come back.


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[Assistant] Whether, wherever the truth lied four days ago, it's now, it doesn't matter now, because of what happened on Thursday night, because now the NFL is going to be like, oh, okay, this, people are outraged that someone was seriously injured.


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[Assistant] Well, I think it would be fair to say they need to care.


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[Assistant] It's not complicated to say 2-0 shouldn't play.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it's, it's not complicated. I mean, I don't know why this would be a sea change moment. Number one, it just happened. Number two, the NFL is in the business making money.


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[Assistant] As Breach noted, some doctor, one of the NFL sponsored neurologists said he didn't have a concussion and...


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[Assistant] The no-go list says if you are unable to stand up straight.


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[Assistant] But even if you're having those conversations, the question should be, why, how did we get to this point as the independent neurologist?


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[Assistant] Because even if he doesn't have a concussion, the fact that he stumbled around and has some...


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[Assistant] You're not even a doctor and you can come to that conclusion. That's my point. If you're the neurologist, just say, hey, you know what? Let's be cautious here and we'll just have him sit down for the second half. That's all I'm saying. Instead you roll his ass back out there and then, you know.


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[Assistant] Whether he was concussed or not on Thursday night, he was certainly concussed when he left the field because he got body slammed through the turf. The other thing I'll say, and this has nothing to do with 2-0 or, um,


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[Assistant] And nevermind the other lower body injuries that go on every, it just blows my mind that we're playing on turf. Unless you're a high school team or a lower college team where you don't have the money, there's no excuse for a professional team anywhere to have freaking turf.


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[Assistant] Absolutely not. John Harbaugh said that his players went to Steve Busciotti years ago and said, look, we don't like the turf. He's like, done. Put grass in there. Steelers have grass. Steelers have the same climate since the United.


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[Assistant] Look, I was almost surprised there wasn't a flag on that. I don't know what the rules are on body slamming players inside the pocket. Maybe it's okay, but out in the middle of the field, if you do that, you get a flag.


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[Assistant] Because the guy weighs 320 pounds and body slammed into the ground. I don't think that's in dispute.


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[Assistant] Also worth noting, and someone mentioned this in the comments,


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[Assistant] He had injuries like the knees or whatever it was, and he convinced, uhm,


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[Assistant] And in fact, speaking of Richard Sherman, Richard Sherman also admitted that his rookie season, I think he said he got a concussion. He lied to stay in the game because he, he needed to play. He was a fifth round pick or whatever, and it was important to get on the field. And that part I understand as well too, was not in danger of losing his job.


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[Assistant] But he's a competitor and, you know, type A, whatever.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. I don't think that's true. And I think the bigger concern is, uhm. Who else is bringing them?


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[Assistant] Your reputation, I don't know how it works, but I can't, there's no, that's the whole point of them being independent.


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[Assistant] Do you know that? I mean, do you feel comfortable saying there was a minimum baseline standard? Cause I don't know that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know the details. My point is that if you're the neurologist and it reflects on you personally, and we don't know who this man or woman is, that's your reputation.


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[Assistant] Breach, what is the protocol for being an independent neurologist? Do you have that information?


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[Assistant] No, JJ tweeted him out last Sunday. Uh, I think Billy put him in the, the rundown for us and, um, he didn't pass last sat last Sunday before, but when he got hurt before, just before halftime, uh, and yet he magically appeared in the second half and you know, back injury, ankle injury later. He's playing on Thursday. Um, didn't play poorly.


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[Assistant] I mean, he got his brain sloshed twice in five days is reality. Whether he's concussed or not, it's not good for his above the neck going time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, again, I don't think it's necessarily on the telecast in real time. I think, I guarantee you.


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[Assistant] We'll be talking about it tomorrow on ASQ. They'll be talking about it on the, on the ESPN properties. You can bet your ass on that. Uh, I think Mike Floria, who spent all of halftime talking about it, will continue to talk about it. Uhm, on PFT and his radio show. I don't think this is going anywhere. I don't care that they didn't talk about that. I said that already. I mean, that's not, it's, you know, 15 minutes.


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[Assistant] Chris Collins was in the, how awkward do you think that was? Chris Collins was hanging out with Roger Goodell, and then that happens. I'm sure Chris Collins would have had to do the old moonwalk out the back door.


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[Assistant] I would imagine that's a conversation they might want to have if they're sitting there having a, drinking a beer, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Breach, I'm going to say it again. I have no idea. I think I do have an idea, but it's hard to see in real time whether he's a good coach.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this, Breach. So, early in the first half, and Ben Baby tweeted this out last week, who covers the, um, Bengals 3 ESPN, uh, after the Jets win, uh, Zach Taylor laughs about a failed fourth and one against the Jets, and Zach says, any other play call would have worked other than the one I called.


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[Assistant] And by the way, Xavier and Howard went out. He was not good early on because he's hurt. And then they brought in two backups to the backups and who got summarily roasted as you might expect.


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[Assistant] Well Helen, let me say, they scored on three straight possessions against a team with no cornerbacks and a quarterback that was in the hospital.


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[Assistant] Again, there was, there were no cornerbacks that could cover anyone running routes. It's not even that courageous of a call.


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[Assistant] Like that throw with Breach's arm, Breach is making that throw 9 times out of 10.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, it reminded me, uh, like earlier today, if you guys haven't listened to the podcast, you can listen to the mail back with, with our guy, Brad, uh, listener, viewer who ponied up money to, to be on the podcast helping out, say, dudes, but he asked us, you know, um,


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[Assistant] If we were getting in a word burned out from watching football all the time. And I forgot that watching serious injuries really bumps me out. Like it really saps.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we haven't had something that serious in a while, but Richard Sherman said something at halftime that made me, like, take a beat. He said, I've been on the field for


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[Assistant] Yeah. Uhm, but again, that's, you know, we, we can talk ourselves into anything and, you know, we understand the rules. And the other thing that I think is worth noting about the 2 of stuff is that 2 understands


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[Assistant] The, the risks. Now, there are precautions in place that are supposed to help people, uhm, get out of their own way, and we can argue about that later, but, you know, it wasn't like he was blindsided by this.


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[Assistant] Hey Breach, what do you think about this from, um, ESPN's Mike Clay? He tweeted this, uh, during the game, late in the game. T Higgins, who's missed most, who missed most of week one currently has more fantasy points than Jamar Chase.


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[Assistant] Is Logan Wilson the best defensive player on this team, not named Hendrickson? B2, B2 Hill.


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[Assistant] By the way, that's actually, those points are both good ones in the sense that you should be very concerned Breach about this team down the stretch because if they can't score points and you have to rely on your kicker to boom field goals left and right, you're not going to win every game 14 to 13.


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[Assistant] So only one sack this time. I don't, it didn't feel like he was pressured a lot. Maybe you might feel otherwise, but my point is this. If there's no pressure, what's Zach Taylor's excuse for dialing up all these crap plays? He's not good.


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[Assistant] What else, what's his other excuse when he's asked by Mike Brown why he's dialing up all these crap plays?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but the difference is that the Eagles are good and the Eagle, the Dolphins got lucky.


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[Assistant] I didn't see that, but I felt the same way about that fourth and one. I also understood why.


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[Assistant] Hey Breach, uhm, someone in the comments asked, why can't the Bengals run the ball? They had trouble, a lot of trouble. The Dolphins actually, front seven is pretty good.


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[Assistant] Alright, how big? First, let's just speculate because that's what we do on this podcast. Facts are not welcome.


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[Assistant] So uhm, that, that, that reminded, that reminded me of the salt and pepper song.


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[Assistant] So, let's just, knowing absolutely nothing, when does Tua return? Just what week? It's week four now. Uh, I mean...


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[Assistant] Just your opinion, not based on what you think's gonna happen, just when you think you will be back.


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[Assistant] Yes! I was thinking about that guy. That guy was awesome. I hope he's doing well now, but that was a fantastic story to watch. I doubt he is. He might be, you never know.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but here's the thing, and Florio tweeted this because he's always looking to point the finger at somebody. He's like, look, Steven Ross has been suspended. Who are we going to blame for letting this go forward? So, Steven Ross is, I would imagine, he's like, look man, I'm sitting in one of my mansions far away. I'm not allowed to do anything. So, I don't know. I don't know. Uhm.


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[Assistant] If you think that's crazy, you should share Brenton's fantasy about Chris Collinsworth and that'll really blow your mind.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but to Breach's point, it's one thing and you talk about Dak coming back early.


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[Assistant] So let's go back two hours to ten seconds after Lua's been carted off the field.


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[Assistant] When then would you have guessed that he's gonna return? I would guarantee you weren't gonna say in 10 days. And that's sort of my point. Like, okay, we thought he was gonna die. Okay.


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[Assistant] Tua could be like, I'm fine. RG3, that was RG3's go-to. Tua definitely said that. What'd you say?


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[Assistant] I'm sure they have Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. I mean, okay, yeaah. I could see one or the other.


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[Assistant] It was a supplemental first round pick, remember? Oh, that's a good call.


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[Assistant] And uh, I think he plays well in this game. I'm gonna take the Bengals minus the points. Uh, I don't love the game, but I'll take the Bengals.


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[Assistant] So that makes a difference, but he can't throw from your back and I think that's the biggest difference in this game.


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[Assistant] I think Jacksonville's gonna rebound after a terrible showing last week.


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[Assistant] Trevor Lawrence has to learn to take the check down. It's available. He hasn't done that yet.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I think he's gonna start playing better as well. So I'll take Jackson. I think they win the game outright.


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[Assistant] What, what's the latest on Ryan Kelly too? That's an, I mean, he was banged up and he was limited yesterday in practice. So, or you might've been held out.


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[Assistant] Because if Ryan Kelly can't play, that means Danny Pinner has to play center and Danny Pinner at guard was awful.


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[Assistant] Their defense has been terrible, by the way. That's another thing that with all the concussion talk and everything, the defense has been bad.


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[Assistant] It is gonna work out in this one. This is, I don't care what that total is. It would be a total fluke if these two teams don't go over. Total fluke.


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[Assistant] They're still banged up on the other side. So there's going to be opportunity to hit some shots against them as well.


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[Assistant] But the Bills were the better team. I think the Bills are better team here. By the way, if I'm the Chiefs, first play I line up and I start the whole chant.


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[Assistant] They act like they put that they act like they put it in the past. But believe me, I know because I've said it to about 18,000 different people around that team and they have not put that in the past.


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[Assistant] No, they pretty much said Cooper's starting. And look, Cooper Rush is exactly what you expect him to be. A game manager.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think the charges aren't great on defense either. People have run on them like they always do. It doesn't matter who they sign, they just get run on. Uhm, so I think, I think I'm gonna take, it is a revenge game for Melvin Gordon. You love those bro.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, I'm gonna take the Chargers minus the points. I don't love the game, but I'll take the Chargers.


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[Assistant] They have problems. You know, they have depth issues. They have all kinds of issues. And so I think that's showing up.


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[Assistant] This is a good spot to get it going. Carolina is awful on offense. As bad as the Rams are, I think Carolina, when you watch them, they're terrible.


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[Assistant] He blamed everybody in the building but himself and there's no players hate more than the guy like that. So he's out. Wilkes will give him a little boost. I think RJ is on to something there. I wanted to, I just think that their offensive line is going to get just mained in this game. That's my concern, RJ. I know Walker can move, but they're bad. Both offensive lines are bad as a matter of fact.


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[Assistant] And since, since 2017, they've done that. Every single, they've stayed on the East Coast between games. In those games, they're 7-0.


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[Assistant] Basically had no reps during practice during the week. So it's a different step up for the Jets. I'll take the Packers minus the points is the best bet.


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[Assistant] I'm not taking the stealers until they show, A, that they can stop anybody.


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[Assistant] Well, quickly, this game or last week's Thursday night game? Which one was it?


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[Assistant] I mean they scored 19 total points, but I can't even disagree with that.


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[Assistant] I think Ron Revere is wondering still why he had to release a statement today defending the idea of trading for Carson.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'll say this, in Carson Wentz's defense, uh, as Deebo has moved on to, to greener pastures, so he can't do it. I thought he played better than 12 of 22 for 99 yards.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was surprised by that. Best block of the game. Fantastic block. Uhm, and you know, maybe his future is, is a Tim T, is a Tim P but tied in. But if you compare the, the stat lines for the two quarterbacks and you had to guess just based on watching the game with no sound or no, you know, stats or.


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[Assistant] Or scoreboard, you would probably think that Wentz had Justin Fields numbers and vice versa, cause Justin Fields


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[Assistant] Probably got hit, how many times, he had 27 attempts, he got hit 27 times. And 25 of those times, he needed help by his teammates to get him up off the turf.


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[Assistant] We needed an independent body blow specialist to check him out because he got everything he took was like, it felt like it was below the, below the waist.


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[Assistant] Maybe you should tell him there's always 12 men on the field because he plays very conservatively. And I watched one television, just a regular broadcast. The other television was the, uh,


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[Assistant] Prime time, all 22 or whatever. So you could sort of see early on, he missed a lot of open receivers and he took a lot of hits. Kirk Herbstreet talked about that early in the broadcast. And then other times guys just weren't open. And then, you know.


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[Assistant] Luke Getzey, the offensive coordinator who previously Green Bay, is that right, I believe?


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[Assistant] This was talked about on Twitter. I don't know if Herbstreet mentioned it or not, but to your point, Brinson, it's like a square peg around the whole situation.


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[Assistant] Like why, why are we trying to fit Justin Fields into the scheme? Why don't we fit the scheme?


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[Assistant] To Justin Herbert. Lamar Jackson style. Like, what are we doing?


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[Assistant] We're overthinking. I think we found someone who's actually worse at their job than McCanada, so that makes me feel good as a Steelers fan, but I'm sure it doesn't make Justin Fields feel any better. Or Bears fans. It feels like he's being grossly mismanaged.


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[Assistant] I don't want to put that on Getzey just yet, but I will say I'm sure part of it is it's fields cause he doesn't look great. But then again, Trevor Lawrence doesn't look great. Trey Lance got hurt. We don't know. Mack Jones has been up and down. So it's still too early to cast aspersions, but you would imagine that.


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[Assistant] Trevor Lawrence feels like he's in a much better situation with Doug Peterson. Matt Jones is a better situation, even though, you know, he got what's his best call on the plays.


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[Assistant] Last year, the offense looked certainly much better, and Justin Fields looks like he doesn't have a chance. The offensive line stinks. As you know, they're not trying to get him, uh, use his legs on design runs. Like, Carson Wentz had more design runs than Justin Fields in this game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know. I asked Brady about that. Brady Quinn about that a couple draft cycles ago. Just how is it that when, you know, these kids have been playing and he's seven on seven, doing seven on seven forever, going back to eighth grade.


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[Assistant] Why can't they get through progressions? Why can't they just let it rip? He goes, I don't know. If we knew the answer to that, quarterback play would be a lot more consistent. So I don't know what the answer, like, I don't know why he's staring at someone.


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[Assistant] I think it also points out that how incredibly difficult it is to judge these quarterbacks. Cause I remember during this draft cycle, people were very angry that Justin Fields wasn't getting his quote unquote do.


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[Assistant] Like Trevor Lawrence and to an extent Trey Lance and people were very angry about the whole Mac Jones thing. You just don't know. Like you don't know how this is going to work out. And you know, I saw Roger Sherman. Is that his name?


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, from the ringer. He was saying how during the draft process, everything you heard about Justin Fields was that he was so incredibly accurate. And here's the thing, I just watched CJ Stroud today, couple games, and, um, Bryce Young too.


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[Assistant] Those guys are throwing to players who are wide ass open. They have all five star guys running routes. Marvin Harrison Jr. is the best wide receiver in the NFL right now. If he were there.


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[Assistant] Uh, we know about all the guys that, that Matt Jones had and Bryce Young had at Alabama. It's a completely different game. I mean, yeaah, they're incredibly accurate, but I mean, Breeche would complete 85% of his passes because number one, he can throw the ball 45 yards down the field, but also no one's going to touch him in the pocket.


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[Assistant] Something when, you know, something, you know, a race or whatever, when in fact it's just about, we don't know.


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[Assistant] What these quarterbacks are good or not good at. I will also say this, Bayless Jones, you're not helping my man. That's two fumbles in two games as a returner. Uh, Amir Smith-Marcet, two games in a row. He fumbled in the game last week, the ball hit you in the face late in the game. That could have been close to a fourth down conversion on a long fourth down.


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[Assistant] So he's not getting help. And Brenton, you mentioned the offensive line sucks. Uh, Brooklyn Smith had a great game until Carson Wentz, as someone put out, said on Twitter, uh, put him into the transfer portal, which I thought was.


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[Assistant] Although it should have been 70 yards, whatever that final drive was, but Darnell Mooney, their best player, double caught the ball, which would have been a touchdown had he caught it.


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[Assistant] I will die on this hill right now, Brenton. That's a weird one. I thought you'd be more excited about Trestway putting the ball 87 times and his leg not coming off.


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[Assistant] Bad ball, as the, uh, people in the end crowd say. What about this? The old, uh...


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[Assistant] Uh, Breach, you're the special teams guru on this podcast because no one else wants that stupid job. Uh, tell me what you think about this. Fourth quarter, just under two minutes to go. Fourth and four from the plus 30 yard line.


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[Assistant] Up five points, and you're Washington Commodores. Kick and Joey Sly hooks one.


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[Assistant] Like, you know how bad that, how bad that the offenses have been on both sides? I mean, that's like one of the times where I think punting sounds stupid from, from the plus 30.


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[Assistant] So the success rate according to Binbot for the 46 yarder, I think is what it was, 71%. What was it? 48. 48 yarder was 71%. To go for it on fourth and four is 45%. Um, and it was pretty even in terms of whether you should go for it to kick the field goal. Uh, again, I,


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[Assistant] So yeaah, make them go further. They had uhm, no timeouts left at that point. So, I mean, I get kicked in the field goal, I guess, but.


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[Assistant] Right. Maybe that's like who, who did it a few weeks ago? Uh, I can't remember who did it, but you take a delay game penalty so you don't have to answer questions about why.


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[Assistant] I would not have, I would have been fine if they went for it. I would have ranked it punt.


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[Assistant] Go for it, field goal. Cause even if you go for it and fail, unless you throw an interception like your Lamar Jackson, the ball, at least you have those eight extra yards at the 30 as opposed to the 38.


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[Assistant] Well, that's when, uh, Smith Marseca hit in the face mask. Like he had his hands, like he's trying to catch a pumpkin and the ball hit him in the face and he fourth and 16, he caught it like the 14 and a half yards down the field. So I mean, granted, I take your point, but it's like no one was willing to help Justin Fields tonight except for Dante.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, uh, Wentz had no plays over 20 yards. Well, a 17 yard at Terry McLaurin and a 16 yard, uh, 18 yard, excuse me, Nicole Turner, the third string tight end he was playing because Logan Thomas was out and I think, uh, John Bates was out with a hammy pregame. So yeah, there, there wasn't a lot to look forward to.


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[Assistant] Uhm, from Fantasy Football Today tweeted this out. He said these two teams are also in the same league as the Bills and the Chiefs. And that's, that's hard to sort of wrap your head around how bad...


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[Assistant] I feel like this year there's been some truly terrible football. Maybe because we've been subjected to it on Thursday night, like the last two weeks. But I feel like there are a lot of crappy football teams this year too.


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[Assistant] But I don't mean like average football teams, I mean dog terrible football teams.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but if the, uhm, if the playoff started today, or the draft started today, the Vikings would have the 30 to pick.


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, so that game three weeks ago, that was the sort of two, uh, concussion, everything changed game. And maybe speaking of Roger, you know, maybe he said, listen, we want some really boring football. I don't want anything to be controversial at all. And they went overboard for eight quarters and said, all right, no one scored anything. And we're going to try to literally kill people with boredom.


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[Assistant] Here's what I've come to realize, I don't know why it's taking me 85 years to figure this out, but I think what makes fans so freaking angry is that when they watch something happen, not just once, but consistently over the course of 3, 4, 5, 17 games,


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[Assistant] And they can figure it out and they still have to go to their jobs from nine to five and do all the other stuff, take the kids to soccer practice. And these people are supposed to be experts and they can't, they can't manage to come to that same conclusion 80 hours a week. They're working on these things. It makes you wonder, are you cut out for this line of work because you're overthinking it and BMAC.


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[Assistant] Talked about this on HQ, I think I mentioned it on the last podcast.


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[Assistant] Uh, officer coordinators are sort of egomaniacs. They, they want to show off and instead of doing the right thing and just running the ball, as you know, breach, they were, they were like the Jack, the real net defense had no answers to the run game. And I'm talking about the actual run game, not Justin feels going crazy in the backfield and then spreading downfield for 15 yards a clip.


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[Assistant] Billy mentions in the comments, Justin Fields helmet interception, how bad was that? Terrible. Like he hit that dude, it felt like he hit him in the throat. And I only mentioned that, that was the early first half interception. I only mentioned that because on that last drive that Breach is alluding to, there's another pass that was knocked down that could have very easily been a run instead of trying to throw the ball, uh, out to the perimeter. So.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, we've been arguing about or yelling about Justin Fields only throwing the ball 88 times coming into this game, so maybe that was part of the game plan.


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[Assistant] I still think it's okay to run the ball when that's your best option on an offense that looks truly terrible.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. I got the sense that Ron was not happy.


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[Assistant] What's that? Just my feeling. I think that what the league would love is for Snyder to sell the team. He's just become a major problem around the league, obviously.


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[Assistant] My take away is that Snyder does not care that people hate him and he loves owning the team and he's always been sort of a lone wolf. Like I don't think he's...


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[Assistant] Like I don't know a lot about owners and how they, circles they run in, but I've had people tell me that he's sort of, he's like a weird dude and like he's even among, uh, billionaires. He's sort of like the, sort of the weird, the weirdo of the bunch. So I've seen him leave like owners meetings just by himself.


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[Assistant] It's weird to me, like, he made his own money, like, he, he, like, he


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[Assistant] He earned his money in whatever line of work he was, whatever widgets he was making. And then at 34, he bought the team and just another example of someone who's extremely successful and one walk alive being, uh, uh, completely ignorant how to run a football team. And then on top of that,


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[Assistant] Coming off as a huge douchebag, uhm, just based on the reports we've read and not even, we haven't even talked about all the sexual misconduct stuff going on, uhm, on those reports that were never written down and we don't know, know how far and why those things go. So, you know, I don't know, like, owner, as you know, owners are about making money. Owners are also


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[Assistant] Probably up to things that we don't know about and they prefer that stuff not come out. And I think that has probably insulated.


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[Assistant] We don't know why, but I have a guess. And you know, we'll see how it goes. But you know, the history is full of powerful people staying in power despite the things they've done.


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[Assistant] And I think it says a whole bunch that this, he could walk away with...


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[Assistant] Uh, what did, what did the Broncos go for? Four billion dollars or something? Is he the sole owner? There must be partners.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this. How much do you believe the Carson Wentz stuff in the story based on how vehemently, uh, Ron Rivera has since pushed back this evening?


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[Assistant] No, no, you see him out there, uh, yelling and screaming at people. Don't, that's not him. That's something else. That's a figure of your imagination. And they're... The hologram from too wet. Right, it's the Will.i.am hologram. We're being gaslit because of all the other things beneath the surface that we don't yet know about.


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[Assistant] You know, push comes to shove. We'll see if Dan's bluffing or not, but I would imagine he probably has some dirt on these guys. I thought it was funny that Jerry Jones' name came up. Like Jerry Jones, I feel like all his business is already out there. Like I think we know everything that he's done with the party bus and all the other stuff. And he may not care. I don't know.


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[Assistant] I don't know, man. It's rich people, when you're rich, you have money, you do all sorts of crazy things that poor people can't afford to do.


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[Assistant] Well, Chuckie the doll just woke up because it sounds like he's turning on Jerry.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, Dan Snyder has F you money and he's stressing the F you part of it as he goes through this process where, you know, you talk about running out the clock, you know, he, he's fine with being hated. It's just a, I don't know, man.


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[Assistant] Hope that guy, hope that guy can, can work through his issues and find some happiness, cause clearly he's very unhappy and he's...


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[Assistant] Appears to have hurt a lot of people through the course of his ownership of the team from the fans to the, to the women that worked in that organization. Uhm, and I think Bridge is right, like it doesn't matter what comes from this report from Beth Wilkinson, ain't nothing gonna change. It has to be something criminal where he actually gets arrested. Uhm, and, and then, cause the owners have to be sure that their, their laundry's not gonna be aired out there. It's sorta like,


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[Assistant] Not to bring up old stuff, but remember when Tiger Woods ran into the, to the fire hydrant and all the stuff that came out of that and not nary a golfer spoke up about, oh, this is weird because the concern was that, okay,


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[Assistant] Our laundry is going to be out there as well. And I think it's, it's sort of just, you know, again, it's like the Illuminati stuff, all this stuff that goes on in, uh, what's the time cruise, Nicole Kidman movie?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's that. It's like a bunch of eyes wide shut craziness that, that random folks aren't, aren't privy to. And then you're like, what in the world is going on in that place?


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[Assistant] All right, Rich, quit talking for a second. Tom, it's just a comment that, uh, Billy, can you thank Brady, Billy and Brynson both, for the donation to the City Dogs and City Kitties?


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[Assistant] By the way, you know, it's great that you guys are helping the dogs and cats, but Brady could save a lot of money if he had said for every win that the, uh, the bears pull off because he would be, he'd be a richer man by the end of the season. I think the judge is going to win, which is bad news for Brady.


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[Assistant] Who is Dan Snyder? Because he came into the league as like a doughy-eyed guy, like a, uhm, sort of naive...


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[Assistant] Young dude, 34 years old, and now he just sorta, you know, his testes dropped and all of a sudden he got a little chest on his hair and now he's, he's actually...


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[Assistant] And that was actually three years into his ownership. So that was two, four years, 2003. So he didn't wait, wait, uh, waste much time. Clarence, by the way, in the comments says we should donate to Costanza's Human Fund. I love the Human Fund.


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[Assistant] He's moving some money around. Uh, so it is October 14th, 2022.


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[Assistant] October 14th, 2025, Breach, does Dan Snyder own the Commodores? He owns two teens.


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[Assistant] I'm going to say no. It ain't going to be because he gave it up. They're going to have to push him out.


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[Assistant] Where did that go? Where did that story go? I mean, I'm telling you, he's got dirt. It's he's got a.


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[Assistant] What do you think is like the most like, I mean like, Oh, it's going to be crazy. It is going to be some off the wall. It's going to be like some, some steel.ca level craziness.


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[Assistant] Patriots. Cause like the Browns, they were at the Browns game trying to cheat on the


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[Assistant] Bangles, is that what it was Breach? I can't remember the details of that. Oh yea, when they taped the bangles? Yea, they taped it. Can you imagine taping the bangles and not doing it as a joke? The bangles were horrible. They were terrible.


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[Assistant] It is like a little mini-dictatorship too. Like you, it's, it's like you, you sort of walk into North Korea and you go outside the stadium. There's a lot of things that you can't do that you can do on the outside. But hey.


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[Assistant] The man wanted the team, he got it, and he appears to be staying there. Breach thinks so, I think he's staying there too. Like, I don't know what would have to happen. If it hasn't happened yet, what has to happen? The man's going to have to, you know, stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody.


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[Assistant] Billy getting the last thrash as an Eagles fan. FedEx field is trash, he says in the comments.


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[Assistant] Hey man, Dan Snyder tried to take him down and people yelled at him, so he left those up. What do you want?


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[Assistant] Stinker for the Rams, not a stinker for Jimmy Garoppolo's legacy in the 49ers. By the way, Breach, um, Kyle Shanahan is 7-0-1 against your boy, Sean McVay. Any thoughts on that as you wear that Miami shirt, repping in the wrong direction?


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[Assistant] I was just trying to bring that up. Is he trying to dive back into this again? He's taking the Wilson talking points right off my, uh, my little he and I got


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[Assistant] Rob played like crap last week. He played really well tonight. I think that's, that's an important takeaway. I'm not, I'm not buying that pool's goal.


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[Assistant] And by the way, you can't have it both ways. You will, because that's what you do. But you were leading so hard into Matthew Stafford and was angry at anyone who said anything bad about his Hall of Fame chances, and now you're all in on the 49ers. That doesn't rewrite history.


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[Assistant] I get it. They were, I mean, Kyle Shanahan did the right thing in minimizing the opportunities for Garoppolo to do what he usually does.


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[Assistant] And also to be clear, I'm not buying this nonsense. I expect next week he'll throw three or four interceptions or have at least three or four interception-worthy plays.


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[Assistant] I ain't leaning in on Jimmy Garoppolo, but I thought he bounced back nicely. By the way, did you guys, we didn't talk about this because no opportunity, I suppose, but you see last week where the lip readers saw Jimmy G coming off the field saying these plays suck. And then Kyle was asked about it and Kyle said, I don't know. And I don't care. And Jimmy said, I can't remember what I say when I get angry.


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[Assistant] The other thing is that I don't, I don't care about that sort of stuff because for hundreds of years, there have been games played across all sports where the player has yelled at the coach under his breath and no one's known any better. Like for example.


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[Assistant] Marcus Peters and John Harbaugh. Marcus Peters and Jimmy Lake. Tak McKinley and Justin Hollins tonight. That was fun. After Tak McKinley tried to tackle that guy. How awesome was it that Breach was in the stadium during the gender reveal and got tackled by Bobby Wagner. That was fantastic.


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[Assistant] I told Billy before the show, I was like, oh thank god. One less thing Branson can get distracted by. Uhm. You know what else Billy said? As we're gonna extend this thing well beyond what Billy wants it to be. He goes, yea, when you and Branson go at it, Branson tends not to get involved. I said because Branson isn't paying attention, he's off doing some serial killer stuff and then he tunes back in five minutes.


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[Assistant] He came back before the season. I mean, this isn't like he just showed up last week and he'd been gone for years.


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[Assistant] Okay. No, I think those things are a bigger issue than like the Jimmy G thing not practicing in August. I don't care about it because he was hurt anyway.


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[Assistant] Uh, O plus in the comments notes, Jimmy G's record is 46 and 18. Stop it. He does win a lot of football games and I don't know, either you or Breach said it at some point, uh, in Twitter, on Twitter and Slack or somewhere. Uh, the, uh, Prisco said this, if Jaquiski Tard hadn't dropped the thing, it'd have been Super Bowl, yada, yada, yada. So, um, an opportunity for even another win. So yeah, Jimmy D does, he's a part of winning football team.


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[Assistant] It felt like compared to last week and to average Jimmy, he was more dialed in in terms of the accuracy tonight. But again, I cannot offer this disclaimer enough, like on the old school pack of cigarettes, I'm not buying it and you know, it is hazardous to your health.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I haven't bought a pack of cigarettes in 30 years. But you know, Jimmy G's hazards to your health long term is my point.


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[Assistant] And by the way, the defense balled out. That's probably the lead story. I mean, we like to talk about Demos. Demos is the lead story, I think. And then probably Jimmy's maybe a distant second. And then I think the defense is two way for me.


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[Assistant] It was, uh, what was it? Five points? Yeah, early in the fourth. Sorry. Thank you, Bruce. Five point difference. The 49ers were up. Fourth in, goal from the two.


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[Assistant] If you're, again, the same thing yesterday, we talked about the Rams, just don't throw an interception in the end zone. Worst case scenario, you're making Matthew Stafford have to go 98 yards with 1.3 offensive linemen.


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[Assistant] Our defense is kicking their ass. Matthew Stafford, he might throw one to Cooper Cup. I guarantee you they can have a hundred series with that offensive line tonight. Cooper Cup will score one touchdown in a hundred series. So if you feel confident that your guys can get after it.


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[Assistant] Either you're in or you're out. Gosh, Hannah, it appears to be out. So that's the other thing. Like we shouldn't be surprised. Like he and Sean McVeigh both are like, look, I'm crazy. They're what people like to call fake sharps.


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[Assistant] Right. He goes, I'm crazy till I get inside the 35 yard line and then I'm going to become Pete Prisco. And that's, that's how, that's how it's going to be.


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[Assistant] Four weeks in and we have no idea what the hell we're talking about based on our preseason predictions.


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[Assistant] Breach, who's the better quarterback? Who's the better quarterback right now?


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[Assistant] After the break breach, I want you to tell me who the better quarterback is right now. This moment, Jimmy Garoppolo, Eugene Cyril, Gino Smith, the third.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I mean, like, you know, everything else is the same, same coach, same, so, you know, they have Zach Taylor and they have the Bengals offense.


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[Assistant] What I'm hearing is that Geno transcends the system. Exactly.


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[Assistant] Why am I, that's such a, what do the kids say? Why am I such a Geno stan now? Does that say that right? When, how did that happen?


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[Assistant] That's a, that's a good old people's joke. Only you and I get that breach, but I, I would, I would trade Kenny Pick and Regina Smith right now.


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[Assistant] 14, 14 catches, 19 targets, 122 yards. The only offense. Alan Robinson might as well be wearing an invisibility cloak. Cause I don't, I didn't see that. I almost called him an MFer. I didn't see that dude out there at all tonight. Uh, one target, one catch, seven yards.


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[Assistant] No, no, I get it. That's just, that's sort of like a crazy thing you do and then it actually ends up being true.


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[Assistant] But, uh, your point Breach. Jeff Wilson had 18 carries for 74 yards. Devo had 6 catches for 115.


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[Assistant] Who is, who is the worst receiver in bingles history? I would take that person over.


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[Assistant] It's right now or Alan Robinson. Chris Collinsworth. No questions asked.


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[Assistant] Genius, based on his dad's history, why, you don't need Devo, you can do Jeff Wilson.


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[Assistant] If you had to ask, my guess would be... Yeah, I don't think you won.


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[Assistant] Well, the dude got traded and he wasn't very good in Jacksonville and he's, he had one long run. The worst prediction is Jake Fromm being the overall pick of the draft. Who said that?


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[Assistant] Oh, Scott Murphy, way to go, Scott. Yeah. Thank you for having us.


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[Assistant] That was a weird draft pick too. Uh, my concern level for the Rams is pretty high, not because of Matthew Stafford, um, who had a terrible fourth quarter, but because as we've mentioned earlier, this offensive line,


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[Assistant] Scott Murphy asks, any chance Andrew Whitworth leaves the TNF sideline studio to come back and help out his good buddy?


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[Assistant] Well he's 40, he probably hasn't lifted any weights on purpose, you know, in 6 months.


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[Assistant] The thing is, he was still probably the best offensive lineman of the group they have that, uh, of the backups.


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[Assistant] But the extreme version of that is, is Shyamaka calling you and asking you the same question. The different, you would take it, but your body just wouldn't be able to hold up for different reasons.


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[Assistant] But it's, it's 8.3 or thereabouts between 8.3 and 6.9 for me solely because of the offensive line. If the offensive line was 85% healthy then I'm not


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[Assistant] The Bengals. I mean, I never was high on the Rams anyway. I had the Bengals.


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[Assistant] Coming in, going to the playoffs before the season, I think I had the Ravens win in the division. But, uh, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I'm man enough to admit that teams in the division that aren't the Steelers are good, Breach, something you have yet to be able to master.


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[Assistant] The dealer's turning around, a month around. You guys all be eating your words.


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[Assistant] Also, agree. And maybe the NFC West instead of the AFC North.


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[Assistant] My real passion on IR doesn't help. Marcus Mariotta, just let me say quickly, Marcus Mariotta is second in the league in interceptions behind, uh, Brenton's dude, Matt Ryan.


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[Assistant] If you're just looking at the, at the conferences and the record, yes, but the Bengals are playing a ton better than they were in week one. The Rams are playing, uh, slightly worse.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And clearly the Bengals had the better coach.


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[Assistant] No, they just gotta get healthy. I mean, I can't even necessarily blame the defense. One was a pick six, so they only gave up 17 points. I mean, last season that's more than enough.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's say GBG stays healthy the entire season and their record ends up being like it was last year, whatever that was, and they go to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] They win the first round matchup of the wild card, go to the division round, they lose there in a close game or whatever.


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[Assistant] I don't even think that's enough. I think that Shanahan and this is me speculating.


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[Assistant] Is there any, one last thing, and then we can go. Any per, any division, actually there are a lot of divisions.


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[Assistant] Uh, Will, I gotta, I gotta tell you, it's, it's good to be back on with you. Lots transpired the past week, uh, but as we were talking before today's show, I, I thought you were coming from a golf course because it looked like you were in golf attire, kind of had that chummy, uh, very like high brow look to yourself, uh, and look at you're enjoying yourself. Where are you coming from?


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[Assistant] That was a lot of hair. That beard that you have basically extends down to your chest.


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[Assistant] That's definitely not something you brag about. That is something to talk about, and it's an interesting point. Have you ever grown a beard? No, I cannot.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know why my dad's never really been able to grow a beard. I couldn't really grow a beard. I tried to grow a mustache for No Shave November.


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[Assistant] Nope, gotta be clean shaved. You know, my marching orders came from one, one Kieran Portley. And he said, look,


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[Assistant] You go on camera, you make sure you shave. You look like a clean cut kid. I said okay.


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[Assistant] So ever since then, I was hired by CBS. I've always tried to follow port's guidelines. So shout out to Jim.


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[Assistant] Catholicism of Notre Dame. Catholicism as well, right? Getting, getting struck with a ruler back in my younger days going to Catholic schools. Can't do that anymore, buddy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well I didn't go to Catholic school when I was young either, so that's, that's fine.


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[Assistant] I guess sometimes you get an extra host in the offering, you know, offering plate.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, I mean, I don't know that anyone approaches you about that discount. Usually they just ask you to donate to other things, other causes, right?


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[Assistant] Speaking of something that has nothing to do with this, which I'd love to just river dance right out of this.


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[Assistant] Jimmy Garoppolo stepping out of the back of the end zone on Sunday Night Football. There's a thought that Dan Orlovsky gets off the hook.


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[Assistant] I'm with you on that. I think that is one of the most biggest misconceptions of week three in the NFL was that anyone's gonna be let off the hook for that. I mean, his heel barely touched out.


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[Assistant] Let alone a quarterback who ran almost half the length of field, out of bounds, not just out of bounds, three yards out of bounds, almost past the wife.


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[Assistant] The white. And actually got to a point where it was like, how could you not know you're out of bounds at that point to take a safety? And then the other one was Mark Sanchez, who felt like the punter for the Dolphins was impeding on his space because he did try to launch a football up his personal protector's backside, his behind.


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[Assistant] Behind, you know, uh, you know, the bottom, whatever you want to say, a bottom, right? I heard on radio today, someone said they're nice toilet. They phrased it that way.


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[Assistant] Uh, even my daughters, even my daughters, like daddy, I have to go to the bathroom. We would never say tangle. We say number one or number two. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] But the whole point is, we, we got through a weekend of football. Yeah. And by the way, he like belly back and look at Jared Allen laughing. He's not screaming or yelling. He's laughing because of how far Dan Olofs goes out of bounds. And he still thinks he's like in play right there.


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[Assistant] Might be. Might be. Arms don't look big enough, but yea.


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[Assistant] But anyway, the whole point is this. It doesn't negate from Orlovsky or Sanchez and the history that they've created in the NFL for the safety in that case or the infamous butt fumble for Sanchez. So we have to talk about that first.


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[Assistant] The second thing is, I got the chance to call game this weekend. You were fantastic. I appreciate that. I didn't feel fantastic, but...


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[Assistant] Something fantastic happened in the game, Will. I texted you about it.


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[Assistant] You did. And that's why I wanted to talk with you about this. So, Jamal Williams scores a touchdown, right? Nice, stiff arm at the very end of the play to get in the end zone. And he proceeds to celebrate in a manner in which he ends up getting an unsportsmanly conduct penalty.


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[Assistant] For one too many pumps, one too many hip thrusts, however you want to describe it.


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[Assistant] I was losing it because in real time I thought to myself it has to be a hold or maybe it's a face mask on Jamal Williams the way he kind of stiffed armed the defender.


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[Assistant] But then come to look at it, I'm like, oh no, they're actually gonna throw a flag on that. Which...


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[Assistant] I, you know, there were so many questions that jumped in my mind. And the one prevailing thought was, don't say anything that would get you fired, or so you can never call an NFL game before.


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[Assistant] So, I wish I would have came with something a little bit stronger than what I probably said in real time, but it was in part because I was, I was hitting up our producer and talked back.


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[Assistant] And I was like, bring on Mike Pereira. I want Mike Pereira to have to come on and talk about this in depth. I want to go back and do the replay. I want to show different angles because the other thing that we kind of missed out on was Dan Skipper who got a second start of his career, which tremendous story. If you haven't read into that check that I played left guard for the Lions this past week.


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[Assistant] Exactly. Most people didn't see that. You had to see like a different angle of it. And so now I'm like, I want Prairie to break this down. Like was it just Jamal Williams because it was one too many pumps? Because it wasn't so much back and forth. It was like circular motion. So maybe that's considered more of a dance move.


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[Assistant] But did the Dan Skipper like lightning rod to his pelvis? Did that like happen to draw any additional attention to draw the flag? So I was really hoping to get Mike Pereira.


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[Assistant] In such a professional setting, having to break down what seemed to be the sexual act that made its way onto a Fox broadcast and an NFL game, and unfortunately my producer would not let it happen.


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[Assistant] Like I'll just put it that way, like that's probably the end of the excitement, the finishing move, you know?


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[Assistant] And so the next one, it was when he was out in the open to kind of buy himself because of the run. Yeah. And that's where he really got a lot of the attention and that's where you started to see the hips. The whole body was into it.


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[Assistant] Uh, and look, in his defense, I mean, Von Miller used to get away with the same exact celebration. In the middle of the field. In the middle of the field, like right off 50, like you can't, you can't miss him, right?


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[Assistant] Like where in high school, the kids would like go and hook up on the fifth year, like that's where Von Miller used to do the celebration. And he never got in trouble for it.


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[Assistant] So, my whole point is like, it was, I was shocked. In part because obviously it impacted the ensuing kickoff.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but just the fact that they called it, I was like, really? I mean, anyway, I think we had a missed opportunity. Let me ask you this, let me ask you this. My career in a three-piece suit breaking down that to be the best television.


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[Assistant] Like, this is, you know, not safe for work. Like, come on, we can't, we can't have this, okay?


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[Assistant] And you can't have all that sex just in one, you know, one spot there in the end zone.


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[Assistant] He's probably going to have an OnlyFans page after this. That's devoted to Jamal Williams.


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[Assistant] It's like, yeaah, it's like, it's like during the weekday, like you need to pick me up, just go like a jump all-wims, uh, hip thrust, yeaah.


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[Assistant] My, my play-by-play kind of said something like, oh, that, you know, I used to be you back at Notre Dame or in college or whatever. And I almost was going to say like, oh yeah, on the reg. But then I was like, no, no, don't say that.


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[Assistant] Uh, Brandon got him. He actually did a great job. True pro, um, him and Megan O'Leavy, who was our sideline reporter, like, ton of fun to work with. We didn't get to spend much time doing it because of our other commitments. Uh, we were both working in college before, uh, we got to Minneapolis to call the game, but,


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[Assistant] Pretty sweet. By the way, sweet stadium. Like I said this during the game, I don't know if it actually had any impact on the Kicks. It's an incredible stadium. It's an incredible stadium, but...


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[Assistant] It was weird how Greg Joseph on two of his kicks and Austin Cybert on one of his, especially that fourth down that everyone's given Dan Campbell a hard time for not going for in Detroit. Uhm, all of them started out on course and then they just.


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[Assistant] Like faded or sliced to the right. And it made zero sense watching it in real time because I was down in the field before, even though the doors are closed then. And they kind of said like, I talked to some of the coaches in the field, they're like, yeah, when they open it up, you kind of feel a little bit of a draft or a breeze. It's nice.


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[Assistant] Well that's what I'm saying, so like, if the uprights were here, right, like here are the uprights, the doors are literally right there on that upper concourse. Because the field's actually down, if you look where like, ground level is, it's down.


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[Assistant] And then they open these big doors that swing and they create this like flow of air from up there. And that's the only thing that could have impacted those kicks almost the way it did, which...


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[Assistant] Look, at the end of the day, even if Detroit makes that kick, uh, Cousins and the Vikings then win by one. They still throw the touchdown pass, you know, the rest is history. Now the difference is they probably would have had to go an extra 20, 30 yards based on the kickoff of, you know, after you make the, the field goal. And so maybe that wouldn't have worked out the same way, but.


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[Assistant] I still think it was the right decision for Dan Campbell to go, you know, for the field goal in that instance, make it a six point game and then force, you know, the Minnesota Vikings to get along a hard way. You don't expect cyber to miss two kicks in that game. You just don't.


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[Assistant] Yeah, which they had been great, they had been great throughout the day on 4th down, they were bad on 3rd down, and in fact to a point, they converted all their 4th downs, they were like 3 for 3. 3 of 16.


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[Assistant] Three of 16. Yeah. On, on third down. But it was, but then you look at the fourth down conversion, I think there were what? Three of four? Four of six. Four of six. So there you go. Four of six.


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[Assistant] It's, it's really rare, and I think it's one of the reasons why Dan Campbell got so much, you know, flack or criticism for not going forward in that instance, but I believe it was fourth and four, fourth and five, which even people in the analytics community would tell you,


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[Assistant] That's a little outside the range of probably where you want to go for it at that point. Because if you don't get that conversion...


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[Assistant] Then you're looking like the guy that, you know, gave Kirk Cousins the field position, and now they just have to go to the short field to at least have a field goal, if not a touchdown to win it. So a lot of people are doing what's called resulting. They're taking the end result, and they're basically using that to justify it being a bad decision. That's not how coaching decisions are made.


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[Assistant] I'll put it this way. It's in Clemson, South Carolina. As of right now, they're still planning on kicking, playing. I know there's supposed to be some impact from Hurricane Ian.


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[Assistant] So there is going to be some bad weather as it looks now.


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[Assistant] I don't know who that favors. Uhm, I think both good, both good defenses. I think I'd give the edge to Clemson running the football a little better with Will Shipley.


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[Assistant] The thing I'm concerned about for your Wolfpack is DJ Uwe Angulale like had to step up in that moment last week versus Wake and he did.


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[Assistant] Callous pressure moments, and he made those plays through the air, which we hadn't seen this year, and then even running more than we'd seen. I think he added like 50 yards in the ground.


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[Assistant] That to me was like a statement game I think for him and maybe even for his time at Clemson, whereas he doesn't have to look over his shoulder at Cade Klubnik anymore.


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[Assistant] Who is a talented recruit that they've got waiting in the wings. It's his team. It's his time now and just go and play moving forward. So.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's my concern for NC State is I don't know how difficult of a schedule they've played in comparison to Clemson where they've been tested.


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[Assistant] And you get them now in their house, Death Valley, tough place to play, assuming it's your normal college football setup and the hurricane obviously had dissipated by then.


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[Assistant] There's no one there. I mean, it was like a, like a faucet, like a sieve, like it was just water falling down.


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[Assistant] And just to be able to have that environment, because they know how big this game is, and I'll be honest with you, I don't want weather to, like, even that game, I was like, why are they playing this game right now?


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[Assistant] You can make the case this might be for playing for the ACC, right? Like this could change the outcome for both teams.


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[Assistant] Right. And so do you really want to risk that in a bad weather game where like both teams are going to be impacted by it? So I just...


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[Assistant] I hope that's not the case. I hope the weather's not impacted. I hope everyone's safe, by the way, first and foremost.


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[Assistant] Some of my buddies live on the west coast right now. Seeing pictures of Naples. I mean, they're underwater. The storm surge and the flooding has been so bad. So... Well, and the other thing too is that...


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I don't understand why Elon Musk can't figure this out. I mean, come on dude. Forget Mars for a second. Can't we like, prevent some hurricanes or other natural disasters first? Like before we want to go somewhere else? Like let's not completely give up on this planet.


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[Assistant] And some of the natural disasters. Like, let's try to save some things here, then we can worry about colonizing Mars. That's just my feeling on it.


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[Assistant] Who says that? Uh, well, I'm not going down that way.


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[Assistant] Right. Right. Well, there might be some other things to keep out too if you're building walls to keep out hurricanes. I mean, I'm just saying. Right. Right. You could keep out tidal waves. That's true. Tsunamis. You could kill a whale. Sharks. I don't know. Kill a whale.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna test the Nick Saban. Somebody needs to start testing Nick Saban. He could be ingesting this stuff right now. Doesn't he have a deal with Coke?


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[Assistant] And Geico, that's also, but I don't think Geico's gonna give him, you know, that. I think adjusting the Daico.


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[Assistant] It's the, it's the Geico Gecko, so it's actually a reptile.


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[Assistant] Are you, uh, are you gonna, uhm. No, I've seen the list, although I don't want to think anything about it's on my head, so.


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[Assistant] They're texting me right now, which is out there. I was driving to work today and of course got a flat tire because you know, with a hurricane, all this other bad weather stuff going on and my kids not even having school, which I don't even want to get into that because it really feels like an average Wednesday here in South Florida during hurricane season.


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[Assistant] But, uh, now I've got a flat sire and I'm trying to diagnose the issue. And yes, I would change it myself. If I had a spare, I don't have a spare. So now I've got to figure out how to get the car towed to a place where I can change it.


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[Assistant] During like a long weekend, I just started like a softball tournament or something.


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[Assistant] And one of our family friends had gone out there and he was going to squatters on a state.


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[Assistant] And so he was, he was like taking me out to like house parties or whatever, but...


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[Assistant] When we were driving to go to this house party, he got a flat.


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[Assistant] And so we popped out and he's like, oh dude, I don't know how to change a fly. I was like, oh, I was like, I don't know how to. I was like, where's your spare? And so I literally just started kind of rummaging through his trunk.


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[Assistant] You know, jacked up the car, took the thing off, you know, pulled off the old, old one, put the other one on, like did it all that. And I was like a freshman in high school at that point, but which is weird because I wasn't driving yet, but my dad had already kind of taught me Chopper Quinn. He always taught me those lessons like early on. So, uh, meanwhile, while they were unable to,


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[Assistant] Physically process and how to do all that. Like it worked out. But that's the only time I've ever been in a scenario where I've had a spare and I've actually gotten a flat tire.


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[Assistant] Yeah, probably not. But he's like the guy, he's like Kramer, where they take the car on empty, like way past the limits. Oh, I love it. They want to see how far like they can push that vehicle on empty. There's been countless times where I've watched him do that. And I, to this day, I'm always like, if you're, if you're on empty, you got a good 30, 40 miles. Like, I don't care what they say.


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[Assistant] Those tanks are made to be able to literally make it 30, 40 miles.


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[Assistant] That's great. Hey, I'm a dude. I don't have any beer. Can I have some of yours?


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's clearly bothering his play, although I don't know. I think when I go back and look at what he's trying to state is it's probably a chance Andy Dalton starts.


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[Assistant] And then maybe we want Andy Dalton to start because Jameis Winston looks like the Jameis Winston that was playing with the Bucks. We see the upside in ability, but we see the turnovers way too much. So.


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[Assistant] Maybe we'll give old Andy Dalton a chance. We feel like our defense is good enough to keep us in games and to win us games if we're not having to face extra possessions because our quarterback's turning it over.


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[Assistant] They're getting two and a half points. The Vikings actually favored in this case.


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[Assistant] Although you'd think that, given the Scandinavian nature of Vikings,


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[Assistant] That maybe they'd have a greater fan base over there, because there's more people who maybe come down from Scandinavia and say, Skål Vikings, and do the clap and all that.


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[Assistant] That also is true. That would kind of buck that. But are the Saints busy on Sundays?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess my name is more Irish than, than Jeremiah's.


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[Assistant] It's on you for not knowing that it was your birthday, though, on your fake ID. Yeah, that's right. That's like a lesson. It's like the one thing you're supposed to know is like all your information on your fake ID. Good lesson learned.


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[Assistant] I hope he's okay. I know he's a little banged up. Might not play this week.


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[Assistant] Odd thing is, he didn't strike me as a Porsche guy. That's kind of a small car for a big guy like that.


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[Assistant] I just, that was surprising. That was the most, it's like at this point, anything that happens in Cleveland I'm not surprised by, besides the car choice of Myles Garrett, did not think he was going to be in that small of a car. That's what threw me off. I was like, ah, well, I mean, yeah, crazy stuff happens in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of stuff around the whole staff thing, you know?


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[Assistant] Well, cause we were like bathing with Hibiclens, which is like the soap they give you to wash with.


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[Assistant] Before surgery, it is not, not made for like everyday use, but guys were so scared to be in the facility. There was like literally big gigantic bottles of Hibiclens in the shower. So I'm like.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean it was three years, but I don't know if there was a beginning or a really end.


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[Assistant] We're still trying to figure that out. We, we hope Deshawn's the guy.


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[Assistant] I think the most frustrating part about that, and even the memories is like, people don't understand, like, that was my dream.


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[Assistant] Like the craziest thing for me now being like nearing 40, having kids and all that and talking to our kids about like dreams and all that stuff is like that's what I grew up envisioning. Playing Notre Dame, playing Cleveland.


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[Assistant] When that becomes your reality, it's kinda like crazy because you're trying to like...


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[Assistant] You kind of look at everyone else out there and you're like, yeah, what did you dream about as a kid? I was like, oh, I want to play for the Notre Dame.


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[Assistant] Go play for the Cleveland Browns. Like it happened. And like the draft, obviously the way it went.


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[Assistant] It was like they came and got me. So I think the most heartbreaking thing about my time there was the fact that I got traded away and I got traded away by a coach who didn't draft me. He wasn't, I knew when he came in he wasn't a fan of me and obviously wasn't a fan of him either.


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[Assistant] Which, you know, again, like that was kind of just part of the deal. But that was what hurt the most. It's like when I signed a contract with them, it was like, look,


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[Assistant] I'm here for five years, hope I'm here for the rest of my career, but like, I want to see this thing through.


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[Assistant] And between injuries and other issues we had, you know, it just, it was, it was hard to take. And I think also getting drafted with Joe,


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[Assistant] Thomas and being close to Joe is like, I felt like...


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[Assistant] Like I wanted to be there with him. Like he was my guy. Like he was, you know, one of my good friends.


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[Assistant] And it was just tough, like it's tough like saying goodbye to all those guys. Braylon Edwards, the guy I was really close to, like I literally bought a house.


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[Assistant] Probably a, you know, a driver and a three-iron away from where he lives.


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[Assistant] Uh, even closer with my quarterback coach, Rip Shear was, I loved Rip. Uh, Rob Cieszynski, like, oh, you had such close relationships.


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[Assistant] When they blew that thing up after my second year and man Genie came in, it just, everything kind of turned and changed and that was unfortunately for me tough because I knew on his way in like he didn't want me to be the guy. They were trying to trade me to the Broncos before that season.


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[Assistant] Well, cause even living up there, like having played there and lived there, I would have never had a Porsche because just the weather, like you're just, there's not, there's always so many days you're gonna be able to drive that thing out there given the weather in this time of year and especially in football season.


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[Assistant] So I went, I went, the bad thing was, I went in New York to help give Chris Long a


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[Assistant] I was like presenting him the keys to it, I was just like, this sounds awful. Like, can we call it an H2? Can we say anything other than that? I remember joking with Chris at the time, being like, this is...


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[Assistant] He, he went to UVA. My little sister played soccer at UVA. So I remember I flew in one time for my little sister's 21st birthday.


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[Assistant] So I ended up getting some like late night food there, but I saw him at one of the bars where at the end of the night, kind of closing up shop.


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[Assistant] I'll be honest, I don't remember much from that night. I just remember like talking to Chris for a while and then eventually reconnecting for the H2 giveaway. That's how I describe it, the H2 giveaway at that point in New York, but the rest, uh, the rest is history.


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[Assistant] So here's the true story of that. So we'll just go right in the weeds with this. So obviously we had a spike in gas prices, right?


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[Assistant] Around that like, oh wait, like back during the, the housing market crash in 08. Yeah. So, you know, housing market crashes, gas prices skyrocket. Guess what happens? It was really expensive.


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[Assistant] They stop making H2s, right? They're not making Hummers anymore, right? They limit them, I guess I should say. It's hard to get a Hummer.


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[Assistant] It was hard. There was a handle on being able to get a Hummer. Alright. You had to go through a lot of tough things to get one. Anyway.


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[Assistant] So, they like, they, like the deal was over and they're like, yeah, we can't renew. Like we literally need these back. Like they went through like that sort of like GM was going through a really, really hard time at that point. So that deal ended. Uh, so the, the Hummers were gone. So they're just, they dried up. They're no longer, no longer there.


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[Assistant] Thank god they pay me so well here. Hopefully that continues. It doesn't dry up like, like Hummer did.


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[Assistant] Alright. By the way, where's Billy? Where's Billy? This is the first time I think Billy's produced a pick six today. I'm sure he's really enjoying this podcast.


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[Assistant] It's not weird, it's the future. Like, people who leave voicemails are like, uh, get out of here. Exactly. You might as well leave a voice text.


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[Assistant] No different than texting someone. It's more personal because you actually have to hear their voice, the tone of it.


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[Assistant] And it's quicker. Because sometimes you're driving or something and you don't want to text and drive, voice text.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, so uhm, calling a game last week, one of the cool things about calling a game is you really get to kind of dive in the weeds of what they're trying to do schematically on both sides. This is the Vikings line.


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[Assistant] Correct, correct. Yeah, Minnesota Vikings taking the Lions. So Ed Donitz, I was a long time coach in the NFL. Uh, he's been doing it for almost like 30 years.