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[Assistant] I don't think I'm going anywhere close to this one when it comes to Patriots or Cowboys winning via best bets, but I do take the Patriots not to cover, but to win straight up 20 to 17.


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[Assistant] So you're gonna do this again, you're gonna pick the Patriots to win, the Cowboys to cover, and you're gonna make the Cowboys one of your best bets of the week. Are you kidding me? Did you learn nothing last week?


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[Assistant] But I trust it. One thing I will never do, I'll never pick the favorite to win and the underdog to cover and that underdog covering being one of my best bets of the week. I know. I can promise you I'm never gonna do that.


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[Assistant] I reserve the right to change my pick on a moment's notice.


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[Assistant] Hey, hey, you consider all the time. I've never done it. That you're gonna change your pick. Never done it. Alright, but you consider it. I'm reserving the right to do it.


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[Assistant] Because I want to know who's playing and who's not playing for the 49ers. I want to see the inactives. And I think that's fair. With all these guys who are injured, all these guys who are game time decisions, George Kittle, Debo Samuel, Emmanuel Sanders, Matt Breida, Dee Ford, Robbie Gould,


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[Assistant] I wanna know who's playing and who's not playing. For now, I got the Packers 2723. Depending upon who's healthy, I may change my mind as we're getting ready to make our picks.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, no, I'm not trying to play that game here. I'm locking in for now based on the information we have. Packers 27-23, they got two weeks to get ready and they're back in California. And what happened the last time they were in California? They got beat by the Chargers. Aaron Rodgers got pissed off, called not anyone out specifically, but whoever


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[Assistant] Didn't draft him first overall in 2005 and, you know, nobody holds a grudge like Aaron Rodgers. I just think this sets up for the Packers to win.


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[Assistant] Based upon the information we currently have. By Sunday night, I may feel differently. I just don't want anyone to call me out. If I pick, I'm telling you now, I may pick the 49ers when we know whatever we know at 8 15 Eastern on Sunday for now.


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[Assistant] Packers, and I'll take the loss if the Packers end up losing the game, but I like the Packers by 4-27-24.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you've said you're not gonna pick against Aaron Rodgers. You've said you're not gonna pick against the 49ers. You really are stuck here.


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[Assistant] You're upset, aren't you? You've got no chance to- All I have to do is properly guess what you're gonna pick and I can shut you down and you can-


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[Assistant] This time around, think about how potent the Rams offense was last year. If we had said, one year ago,


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[Assistant] That next year at this time, the Ravens offense will be significantly more potent than the Rams. People would have laughed us.


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[Assistant] And look, as good as Aaron Donald is, he's not going to be able to get his hands on Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is fantastic. Lamar Jackson is spectacular and the Ravens will soar as long as he stays healthy. And I like the Ravens and it should be a good game. I'm rooting for a great game. I'm rooting for something memorable. I got 30 to 23.


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[Assistant] I hope it's not a blowout. I hope it's a close game, but I like the Ravens to win by 7 points, 30 to 23.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree with you completely. Look, they beat the Bears last week, but it's only the Bears and it was a sluggish game. It was an ugly game. And I think the Ravens right now until someone proves otherwise.


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[Assistant] The Ravens are going to continue to win and they are trying to stay within striking distance to the Patriots. If they can close that gap of one game between now and week 17, they're going to have the number one seed and the Patriots would have to come back and play them.


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[Assistant] I do think the Ravens are going to be susceptible to a divisional round upset just like the Steelers were.


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[Assistant] Couple of years ago, that's what's going to be fascinating to me. Can they focus when they know the Patriots are waiting, can they focus on the chiefs, the cults, whoever it is that comes to town in the division around it? That's how it plays out. That's going to be.


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[Assistant] One of the more fascinating division around games, assuming that it's still early, but I think that's where it's headed. It'll be the Ravens and Patriots playing at home division around weekend and the Ravens are going to have to focus on taking care of business because it's going to be tempting to think about the Patriots.


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[Assistant] The spread is way too low. And it's funny, it wasn't all that long ago that I was jumping on whoever was playing the Falcons in Atlanta. It was the Rams one week, the Seahawks the next. They both took care of me and covered. I like the Falcons to cover the four point spread against the Buccaneers. Buccaneers on the verge of falling apart.


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[Assistant] Falcons have won two in a row on the road against better teams than the Buccaneers. This one could get ugly, especially because Dirk Cutter, the offensive coordinator in Atlanta, has inside information about the Buccaneers roster and more importantly about Jameis Winston and what's going on in here when he tries to do too much.


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[Assistant] How to bait him into those situations where he tries to do more than he physically is able of doing. I like this one a lot. If there was only one, this is my one.


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[Assistant] Falcons minus four cover the spread by at least six points maybe more.


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[Assistant] Alright, my second best bet, we're gonna go to the Monday night game. The Baltimore Ravens giving three points in LA against a Rams team that is not as good as it was last year, not even close. The Ravens surging, the Ravens have that team of destiny vibe to them.


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[Assistant] I don't think three points is enough of a spread. Look, even though, it's cause it's really not a typical road game. It's gonna be like a neutral site game because there's gonna be plenty of Ravens fans there as there always is at L.A. Rams home games. We just don't talk about that.


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[Assistant] Because the ratio isn't nearly as dramatic as it is for Chargers games. But I like the Ravens in this one. Lamar Jackson in prime time. Not that he, he doesn't get flustered. Every game's the same to him. He's just gonna show up and he's gonna play and he's gonna dazzle you and he's gonna kick your ass. And he's done it six weeks in a row. I still don't know how they lost to the Ravens, but they did.


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[Assistant] Uh, or the, the Browns rather. The Ravens win again, they beat the Rams, they cover the spread of three points by at least seven.


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[Assistant] Well, we were talking earlier about that Bills Broncos game with the over-under of 38.5 points, and I haven't done it yet. I haven't played either way an over-under for the best bets. I typically don't like that, but I have a feeling this week, a strong feeling, but it's not in the Bills Broncos game.


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[Assistant] This is some kind of weird hedge that you do. I guess it is. Patriots to win, Cowboys to cover, and best bet Cowboys to cover.


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[Assistant] I'm happy. Enjoy your Friday off. I know you'll be relaxing and laying around and not doing anything and then you'll be refreshed and ready to go come Sunday. Oh! Don't give the middle finger! She's gonna have to blur it in the back!


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[Assistant] But it was necessary. Our 0 and 5 start.


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[Assistant] It's not just disappointing. We had much different expectations for this beginning of the season. It'll be up to Coach Callahan who plays at any position the same way it was up to Coach Gruden on who's going to play.


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[Assistant] We're, we're thrilled to have Dwayne here. Uh, we think his future is, is very bright and whatever gives Coach Callahan the, the formula for success, I'm sure he's gonna do.


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[Assistant] Where he goes, oh, when I get in this formation, they like to play these defenses, well, I'm gonna get in the lab with a pen and a pad and try to get this damn label off, okay? That was Dr. Dre, just in case you wanted to know. Uhm, but he's gonna guess, it was.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I'm really confused. I don't know what you did. I mean, you've lost culture in America.


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[Assistant] Sounds like a law firm, but, uh, either way, it was good. I thought it was a very exciting game. Uh, and we'll get into that. There's some interesting things, I think.


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[Assistant] Uh, particularly for both teams, but more for the Chiefs. You know, the Chiefs, within the loss, I'm encouraged with things I saw, and we'll get into that. But, uh, either way, I was impressed with the way they played last night, and of course Aaron Rodgers was phenomenal as well.


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[Assistant] Looked like the same old Drew Brees, like he hadn't missed a, a, a beat, uh, really. And, you know, to what you're saying, I mean, again, it just shows the, you know, the Saints are, they're not a one-trick pony. They're, they're just not. It doesn't matter who's in or out of the lineup.


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[Assistant] Sean Payton is where it starts in his great play design and the toughness he instills in the football team.


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[Assistant] You know, oh, okay, he's the master of the short passing game as we know Sean Payton. So hey, look at Latavious Murray getting bobbed. Oh, my quarterback, he's getting back in the swing of things. Let's get him a lot of completions, you know, 10 yards and under early on. He does that. And then as the game goes...


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[Assistant] You know, they start to get more and more aggressive, but uhm, yeaah, Drew is phenomenal, Michael Thomas is phenomenal, Latavius Murray is phenomenal, and


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[Assistant] The Cardinals going for it down 10-6 on their own 29 yard line. That was the changing point of the game. I mean it really was. Cardinals got an interception.


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[Assistant] They get the ball, now it's third and one, they don't get the first, fourth and one, they run it up the middle.


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[Assistant] Uh, against the Saints D that I know we talked about. Bad play call. Bad play call, right. Just bad play call against truly the strength of the other team. And maybe the greatest strength of any D-line in football. I mean, you've heard me say, their run defensive line, run stopping defensive line is as good as it gets, but it really was never the same from that point on.


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[Assistant] The game was still in balance. Yeaah, obviously the Saints were the better team. And really, listen, if he's closer to midfield, maybe I don't have an issue with it.


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[Assistant] My issue was not necessarily where I got into it. It's the analytics thing all the time. It's, oh, the analytics said it was a good call. The analytics were a good call. Well, yeah, okay, the numbers are a good call, but what about being there right now in the moment and you're not necessarily known for being like the best running offense in football and they are known for being one of the best run defenses in football.


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[Assistant] And you're gonna run it up the middle and do that. That's where I just was like, you know, analytics are great, but it just doesn't always tell the whole story. And of course the human aspect comes into it sometimes where the analytics can't take that into account. Oh, this week,


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[Assistant] You know, we are outmatched in this area. The analytics say to do this, but we are physically outmatched with our human beings in this matchup. So I don't give a shit what the analytics say. But it's the new era we're in. That's why I kinda went hard. It wasn't necessarily on Cliff Kingsbury.


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[Assistant] No, I do, I do still think there's questions. I mean, we know they're the Patriots. They're really good. They're phenomenal. They're still the best team in the AFC. I don't care what their schedule is. You're right, they haven't really been tested. Yesterday was one of those days where I think they could have been tested.


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[Assistant] The Browns are, no, you guys will find a way to screw this up, I'm pretty sure. You know, and, and. Three turnovers and three straight plays. And three straight plays, right. And, and you know, again, I think they showed that their defense was good enough to slow down the pass attack. You know, they showed the ability to run the football at times.


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[Assistant] You know, it was just self inflicted mistakes once again.


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[Assistant] Whether it was bad play design or Nick Chubb, you know, having his own guy kick him and the ball coming up or him being a long run and then like, hey, guys come from behind and strip the ball out. That's what they do in the NFL. You gotta be ready for that. It was a great strip, great everything. But when they're getting close there, you gotta go two hands and kinda hold it in. Uhm, but it's, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, the, the, the, the Patriots even with the easy schedule seem to be dodging some bullets with teams messing up under the pressure of playing the Patriots too to where they're not tested that way and, uh, it's just you're never gonna pull off a win in New England that way when you turn over the ball like you said three times in a row. Turnover margin this year for the Patriots.


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[Assistant] I'm not going to look it up because you say I'm just looking at the teams. They're four teams tied. Well, I gotta think San Francisco is towards the tie.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it's uhm, not only the talent, but then the scheme and the confusion are all adding to the turnovers that the Patriots are forcing on a week to week basis and it's uh, it's amazing defense the way they're playing right now. Packers, Steelers, Seahawks and Titans. Packers, Steelers, Seahawks and Titans, okay.


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[Assistant] Gosh, uh, he's like, uh, found a new career. I mean, up in New England again. It's like a second wind. Well, yeah, but again, it just, it shows just that.


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[Assistant] Scheme fit is real. I mean, it's a real thing. Oh, you know, hey, you're here and you did well. Everybody else in football wants you. We trade you to a team and they think, oh, we got the guy that does well. He should do well for us. Well, well, you're not playing them the same way the team he just came from and was playing well with. And then you expect the same results.


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[Assistant] As you know, with anything, I mean, you have to be put in a position to succeed.


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[Assistant] Oh, I remember hearing, I remember hearing that. Goat hair. Wow. Goat hair apparently. Wow. That's kind of cool though. I mean, Odell's Klee game is unmistaken. The best part of that picture though, okay, is the background. Like Baker looking like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm very interested to watch that film because I would like to see too, you know, Odell made some comments after the game about, you know, he thought they were going to be a little more aggressive towards him because I think, you know, he, they expected he might get some one on one coverage. And from what I saw on TV did look like he got played one on one more.


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[Assistant] Then I've seen, now I don't know that on TV, I need to watch the film to see where the safeties were at and everything like that, but, uh, yeaah, I would have thought they would have found some ways to get him the ball in his hands a few more times.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, shocker, that's where they're always phenomenal. They score touchdowns, you kick field goals. We score touchdowns, you kick field goals. And you look up and it's 21 to 9 and you go, man, we feel like we're going toe to toe. Yeah, well, they're scoring touchdowns and you're kicking field goals.


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[Assistant] Not well at all. I mean, just got overwhelmed. Now, a lot of the game, and we're gonna talk about Panthers L49ersD here,


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[Assistant] Uh, to start it off, but, you know, of course, the Panthers, oh, was put in a bad spot from the get-go because their defense got run over early, so that kind of made them abandon maybe their total game plan and what they want to do. I mean, you know, they looked up and they were going, oh my gosh, it's 21 to 3, and we're just getting warmed up here.


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[Assistant] 49ers, what I saw on film in this game, and a lot like the Patriots, you can't just go, oh, we're gonna come out and run our stuff against you.


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[Assistant] Like the 49ers, if you're just gonna run your stuff and run like, oh, basic pass concepts and think you're gonna like get by beating the 49ers defense that way, no!


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[Assistant] The 49ers defense is arguably the best in football. They are every bit in conversation with the New England Patriots. Right now, yardage wise, they're the number one defense in football. Points wise, it's New England.


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[Assistant] So you have to do some things to take away their aggressiveness through your schematics. And that's I think the biggest issue I had with the game in general. There was none of that, okay?


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[Assistant] Uh, the run game maybe had a chance to be successful if the game stayed close, but we'll never know because the game wasn't closed. And then, you know, to just come out with kind of a...


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, what do I, what do I, for lack of a better, just a middle of the road passing attack and thought that was gonna get it done against this defense. It's just, I, I don't see, uh, I did not like the game plan, I guess is what I'm saying going into this.


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[Assistant] Well, I think this is the formula, this is the point, and that's a great question, and that's where I want to go with this, because that's where I was trying to go, is I was fumbling around with my words here.


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[Assistant] They won that way to this point. They've been able to just go, Hey, we'll play defense. We'll feed Christian McCaffrey the ball and we'll run the pass plays that we run the first two weeks of training camp with Kyle Allen. And if he just executes them the right way, that's good. That's good. That'll work against Arizona's and some of the other teams in football. But I'm just saying,


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[Assistant] If they want to be the elite teams, like if they want, and I don't know if you read all my notes, but if they want to play with the big boys in the NFC,


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[Assistant] They're gonna need to do more. And that's where, to me, and again, I've been saying like, hey, don't switch out Kyle Allen yet. Kyle Allen, if you ride this wave until it ends, and, you know, this was one little glimmer, and I'm not saying they make the switch yet, but a little glimmer into the evidence of going,


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[Assistant] I don't know if this will be enough to beat the upper echelons of the NFC when they want to, if they want to get in the playoffs. They need a quarterback that can make some plays on his own when the defense is dominating. They need a quarterback where the coordinator can orchestrate some plays and go,


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[Assistant] Well, they did, they tried to a little bit, but it was just too little too late, because at that point too, the other issue was, yeaah, there was still throws there to be had outside the numbers, and, and, and what, what Ahmed's referring to, you know, the 49ers, they're, they're put 7 and 8 guys at the line of scrimmage every play.


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[Assistant] You have to almost come out going, you know, we're going to make them think we're going to do lots of change of direction stuff because they're so fast and aggressive. But the big thing is they're really going to try to scare you away from running the ball with numbers and they're going to scare you away from throwing the ball in the middle of the field because they're going to have eight guys kind of there between the tackle box. And what you're referring to is


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[Assistant] You have to throw the ball outside the numbers against the 49ers. You gotta do that at least at first. That's where they're most vulnerable. They play a lot of single safety looks. It's either three deep zone or man to man. And they'll give you out routes and comebacks and deep curls and, you know, go routes if the corner gets a little, uh, you know, a little


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[Assistant] What I wanna sneaky in the, looking into the backfield. But they did not do that and the 49ers were all over their stuff early and then they just, they got them into a game of throwing the ball and their pass rush took over.


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[Assistant] I think if you look at any successful running team, like even the 49ers, if we're switching around to them or the other teams in the NFL that are running well, they have receivers that are willing to block. That's a big part of the game. We don't ever talk about it. It's not sexy.


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[Assistant] It is, when you see big runs like that, it's usually sprung by a wide receiver making a big block on a safety or hustling downfield to get in the way of that last guy who might make the tackle. And yeaah, those three guys are football players that Carolina has at the receiver position. And, uh, Nick Bosa's really good.


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[Assistant] Nick Bosa is insane. I just, I can't get over how much better week by week. It's just more explosive, disruptive. I mean, not only his first step and the fact that he can like bend around the corner and get his shoulder like a foot and a half off the ground, but his little abilities to


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[Assistant] Just side to side movement where he can get the tackle kind of off balance, not knowing which way he's gonna go there. He's got great field, wanted to get his hands up as we saw in the interception and even other pass plays where he just gets his hands in the way of the quarterback as they're trying to throw the ball. He's a, he's a superstar. He's a superstar and


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[Assistant] I didn't think I was going to say this, but I think he's made for the NFL more than his brother, especially in the pass rushing aspect. He's just got a little more compact and explosive than Joey, which makes him that much more dangerous when he's coming off the edge.


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[Assistant] You know, they're allowed to play an 8 man box like I'm talking about, but they don't really have to blitz ever. Their front forward can get to the quarterback all by themselves. Their front forward can stop the run.


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[Assistant] All by themselves. They don't need like any like, oh we gotta bring the linebacker or the nickel back off the edge to help our D line to stop the running. They don't have to do any of that. And it's deep, it's talented, and with BOSA it does. It's taking them to another level. Cause you got D forward with the trade with the Chiefs and all that.


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[Assistant] Now you just got one other weapon there, and they're game wreckers. And we've seen a lot of really awesome defenses in the Super Bowl era. When they have more than one game wrecker, you know, those kind of players can win games in playoffs in the Super Bowl because of their great physicality.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I don't know, I mean, I think him and Miles, so right now, both of Miles Garrett come to my mind right off the bat. So, and Aaron Donald is still in that conversation. I don't give a damn what his numbers say.


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[Assistant] Uh, so he's there. I'm just trying to think if I'm missing anybody else. Like Cam Jordan's been phenomenal. You've been really good. Phenomenal. So he would be another guy that I think is in the convo. And, gosh.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know who you'd go with on New England. New England's got a few guys where I feel like you could- Like they spread the vote, right? Well, it's like you could go Gilmore, Van Noy, Jamie Collins, all three are having really special years, but- Minority, maybe? But no, I think I would, with Nick Bosa. I think- Put him in there, top three? I would have a top three. I would right now, yes I would.


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[Assistant] You know, the upfront guys that are causing a lot of these issues. You know, the Patriots, it's the same way. Their upfront guys are causing the issues, but they're getting to cause the issues more because they're back-end so good that they can give you a lot of different blitz looks and things like that. And then all of a sudden you just, oh, somebody's coming free, I gotta get the bot out of my hand. Oh, Interception, Patriots got it.


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[Assistant] San Francisco can do it just with their front four, like we're talking about, where they don't want to play a ton of man to man and do that stuff, they just go, hey, tree trunks, Buckner and Armstead, get in there, and then freak shows on the edge, you get in there too, and the quarterback will do something stupid because he'll panic when you guys are getting close. And that's kind of how they're doing it.


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[Assistant] So I don't think there's anything more to say that. I just think with the 49ers, you better come out aggressive. If you think you're just gonna come out running basic, like, oh, this is what we do, bullshit, sorry. It ain't gonna go, it ain't gonna fly with San Francisco. Plus you need to push the envelope here because of what we're seeing with San Francisco's offense.


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[Assistant] You know, they're so capable of putting up points and numbers and yards that if you don't come into the game facing them going, we need to do this too, then you're going to be in trouble. It's a little like the Kansas City effect. You got to kind of like break out of your molds when you play San Francisco right now because we're going to talk about it. Their offense is on fire.


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[Assistant] Really, you know, for all those out there, go back and look at the highlights of the touchdown runs. You know, again, yes, they have talent, so I'm not trying to take away from the running backs. They're home run hitters. We know their O line's good.


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[Assistant] You know, some of these holes are created in some of these plays, whether you think of the Debo, Debo Samuel's, you know, his touchdown, or you think of Tevin Coleman's, you know, the draw play up the middle for what was that, 50 yards, you know, the toss sweep to Tevin Coleman where,


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[Assistant] I mean, nobody's touching this guy. He's not, they're not down in two-hand touch. So that just tells you all the things they're doing in the run game that are exposing the scheme. The thing that's brilliant about Shanahan is we know he's famous for the inside and outside zone, the Shanahan zone scheme, everything like that. But he doesn't beat his head in the wall with it.


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[Assistant] So in this game, he came out and basically said, I'm gonna do all the things to keep the Panthers honest, so they can't over-defend my normal run game early. And he came out, eh, speed sweep, reverse, fake speed sweep, you run up the middle, to where backside pursuit defenders and stuff are always like,


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[Assistant] You know, slowly but surely, then all of a sudden their heads spinning around, gosh, speed, sweep, reverse, what, there's coming everywhere, then all of a sudden the basic normal run play start to work, because now they're going, I gotta be patient and be home, because


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, he might give the guy the zone re- the zone handoff, but he might give the guy the speed sweep, or the shuffle pass that comes around, or the reverse, or the fake reverse pass, and that's where Shanahan is brilliant right now. He's playing his offense off of each other, and you just have no feel for what they're gonna do.


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[Assistant] They're the fastest team in football, maybe, right now. I think you just, we just talked about their defense, and you, you see it, you're watching it, you like the 49ers. Yup. Yeah, between that, the running backs, the way they hit the hole, uh, you're right, it's, it's one of the fastest teams, and certainly one of the fastest offenses in the game.


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[Assistant] You know, they didn't. It's a good, yeah, it's a good way to kind of just break him in, get him going. He, he is certainly going to have a role within the offense, and, but they just didn't need it yesterday, so it didn't matter. I mean, yeah. He's, uh, he's gonna be the go-to guy. I don't doubt that at all.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there was no reason they never had to get back into the drop back pass type of football game because everything else was working. Between all the creative run designs and the screens, like I just want to tell anybody out there, go out, go back and watch the first three drives of that game by the 49ers. I mean it's just one, you know, I call these like,


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[Assistant] I think it'll still be George Kittle, just because he's such a special talent and then because of their run game and they want to do more off of that, like off of the run game, there's just more creative ways to kind of use the tight end than there is maybe the receiver. The receiver, Emmanuel Sanders, is certainly going to be a big part of it.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, I mean, I just think Kittle fits really nicely within the formula of the way Kyle Shanahan wants to run his offense.


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[Assistant] No, they did not. You know, and, and, and this is like just a few things I started in my notes. I, I wrote down. I'm not sitting here going, wow, the 49ers just physically are whooping the Panthers. Like, oh my gosh, they're just pushing the line of scrimmage back. No.


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[Assistant] What they did is Shanihan's on fire, and because of his play design and pre-snap motions and shift, he had their head spinning. So they didn't know which way to go. It was literally like, which way did he go? Which way did he go?


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[Assistant] There's that. You know, the other thing is, this Panther's defense is good. But when you're playing the elite offenses of the football, you can't, again, a little like their offense, you can't just come out and go,


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[Assistant] We're just gonna do what we do. Oh. Okay. Well, the guy on the other sidelines knows what you're doing. And he's scary. We've been waiting for that. Right. So, you know, those are the things that you gotta be a little different when you play the upper echelons teams in football and know, oh, okay, our defense is good, but we're playing a special play designer and offense here.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna, I'm gonna change my coverage on second and seven from what I normally do because I just don't want him to get a beat. I just thought with the way they lined up, uh, they were a little too predictable and you know, I'm in disguising too. And when you're just going to line up and what we line up in against the, the elite of the NFL on offense, you're going to get roasted. I don't care who you are.


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[Assistant] I mean, happy. I mean again, I think it's still like a question mark as far as, you know, that's what I find fascinating about the Patriots and the 49ers. They're so good.


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[Assistant] That they've yet to have a game where they have to rely on their quarterbacks to go, and that's no disrespect to either one. I mean, they're both playing really well and winning football games, but they haven't had that game yet where you go, man, our run game's not great, our defense is kind of struggling.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Arizona. Yeaah. Yep. That does, uh, yeaah. That should be a win. No doubt about it.


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[Assistant] He's a pretty big guy when you see him in person. I mean, I don't know what Cooper Cup is. I'm gonna say 6'1 or 2'. Somewhere around that. That's bigger than I would have thought. Yeaah. But, no, he was the star of the game, and you know, I think


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[Assistant] Again, you know, I wanna sit here and go, I'm surprised the Rams didn't dominate them more. Well, you know, you gotta take this, take this into account.


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[Assistant] You know, the head coach on the other side used to work for the Rams. So he knows a lot about, you know, what they want to do and how to attack their team and all of that. So I wasn't shocked by that. I think my other takeaway from this game, more than anything, would be this. Uhm, they, the Rams...


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[Assistant] No longer can depend on just being a run team. It's Jared Goff in the past game. And I've been like known as a Jared Goff hater. Like my, through my life because like people were like, well he's one of the five best quarterbacks in football. I'm a hater on stupid narratives. Okay, that's what I'm a hater on.


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[Assistant] And when they were winning and then last year going, he's one of the five best quarterbacks in football. Why? Because the team went to the Super Bowl? No, he's not. But then they lose three games and people go, Jared Goff stinks. And now lately I have people going, man, you're defending Jared Goff a lot. Well, I, yeah, because the, the narrative has stupidly gone in the wrong direction again now.


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[Assistant] Now he went from, hey, he's top five, you're stupid, how could you not call him top five? Then now he's, hey, they should have never paid him that contract.


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[Assistant] Jared Goff through the losing streak in yesterday has played really, really well.


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[Assistant] Okay, the 49ers game, I know statistically wasn't good, but the 49ers were good and were all over that shit. There's nothing you can do. I just saw again, just yesterday, I just saw a number of throws where I went, damn, like, okay.


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[Assistant] But still, Cooper Cup had another big pass play down the middle of the field. He was double covered and golf just threw it right on him. I'm just seeing more and more throws like that. So I don't like the fact that everything's gone the opposite way with golf. I don't like that aspect.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, when you're down 24 to nothing and you're not throwing the ball for yards within those first 24 points, so yeaah, it does not count the same. They threw 52 times. Right. Now, I'm a little like...


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[Assistant] Disappointed that the Seahawks couldn't give them that finishing blow there late in the game and let them hang around. But I think this speaks to the bigger problem of, you know, the Seahawks and the secondary.


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[Assistant] They're, they're a little questionable. They really are. And if their defensive line can't ruin the football game, you're gonna be able to gash them for passing yards. And that's kinda what I saw yesterday. You know, let alone, I'm interested to see, you know, and again, you always have to take into account


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[Assistant] Just like we just talked about with Rams-Bangles, when coaches have familiarity with each other. And this was another matchup.


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[Assistant] You know, Dan Quinn came from Seattle. So he knows little things that Pete Caro might want to do. He might understand some of Pete Caro's philosophies as what he tells the offense and what they want to do. But I was a little surprised that even, you know, with the 24 point lead that


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[Assistant] Life was so hard for the offense at times and Russell Wilson couldn't find, you know, people to throw to as much as I would have thought.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right. I mean, hey listen, they're better with Matt Ryan, I don't doubt that at all, but Schaub is still serviceable, understands the offense, and then, you know, they got weapons. So that was a good matchup for them. Like, that would have been a dangerous game if Matt Ryan plays. I do believe that.


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[Assistant] Because, you know, Julio and Calvin Ridley, they would have had a field day on, I think, you know, and they did have a field day in a lot of ways against that Seahawks secondary. Uh, Seahawks get a win. Let's do a couple more.


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[Assistant] Yes! Yeah, good job by you, first off. I like your little play on words there. Stafford's been phenomenal, okay? We all want to shit on Stafford when he didn't play well last year.


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[Assistant] Now, okay, let's self-evaluate. Oh, Stafford's been good. I'd like to hear some talk about how Stafford's playing so well, because he's one of those guys that nobody wants to talk about unless it's bad, and then everybody wants to tell you how shitty he is. I do too.


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[Assistant] He's gonna be, go down as one of the most underrated quarterbacks in the history of football because he didn't have a great team around him. But to your point with that play, you know, first off,


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[Assistant] Patricia, he knows something about trick plays coming from Belichick in New England. You know, and in this, I'll give Darrell Bebel a lot of credit too, the offensive coordinator, because I complain about this.


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[Assistant] Why is it that New England is like the only team that runs trick plays? They're the one team that doesn't need to run them ever. And as 19 years of dominance, they seem to have all the trick plays and everybody else is like,


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[Assistant] We're just gonna run our stuff. We're good enough with our stuff. We'll run our stuff. Yeaah. But the team that can invent every pass play and run play in the history of mankind, somehow they have enough time to dial up trick plays too. That was a huge play, you're right, and a huge moment where the momentum had gone back to the giant side. I mean, Daniel Jones played phenomenal. You know, uhm, really, you look at that game.


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[Assistant] Daniel Jones early lateral pass to Saquon Barkley that got picked up and run for a touchdown. You know, that was, that was a big moment in the game. It put the Giants in the hole early, then they went three and out. The Lions got the ball back, went down and scored. So before the Giants even got going, they were down 14 to nothing, but Daniel Jones didn't blink once again and really played awesome. They have lost four


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[Assistant] Let's get to the meetings three minutes before they start, not thirty seconds. They go, that sounds like a coach, get out of here. Player meetings, I never was a fan of player meetings. You had them though? Yeah, I had them. I'm not going to name people who got them, but I just, it was usually... They were not motivating to you? No, it really was not.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a lot of nonsense and hot air and guys pounding their chests like, hey look, I'm a leader.


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[Assistant] Matt Niggie's, okay, uhm, his explanation, like, hey, we're not throwing the ball. I get that. Zero thought of running the ball, zero thought of... Yea, I don't, I'm not gonna say like the zero thought of the running the ball thing. I'm not gonna sit here and go, oh, I get it. Like, hey, I understand where he's coming from.


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[Assistant] I still think at the end of the day with one time out there and that type of scenario and you've had run the ball with some decent success on the day that I would have pounded up the middle maybe once or twice more just to get a little closer. It is Chicago. It is windy. You are famous right now for having kickers, you know, choking the clutch.


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[Assistant] When the Bears got inside the ten yard line four times and came away with nine points, they kicked three field goals and missed one field goal and that to me was really the, as we've talked about a lot in recent weeks, when you have your foot on the team's throat and you don't put them away and the other team


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[Assistant] You know, has a guy like Philip Rivers who's not gonna just fold the tent and say, okay, let's go home, this is not our day.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you can let them hang around and, you know, eventually they made a play and what they did, Melvin Ingram gets a strip, they got an interception, you know, but Philip Rivers finds an Eckler out on the right side and he makes a guy miss and it's a touchdown and all of a sudden you go, man, we've been dominating the game. We're losing 17-16. How does that happen? Well, that's what happens in the NFL.


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[Assistant] No, I would like to see more of it. I saw, I saw a few plays where he was back there yesterday too. He still did not pop off the screen the same way that Nick Bosa did. There was just a few plays in the game yesterday where, you know, we're trying to watch it all where I just was like,


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[Assistant] I know it's Nick Bosa by the way he's in his stands and the way he comes off the ball and you just go, ooh, ooh, is he going to turn the corner? Ooh, it's just every play you're kind of on edge to see what he does.


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[Assistant] No, I know, they would be in really deep crap. Because, you know, at least say Negi gave the run game a chance yesterday, but the lack of identity showed itself


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[Assistant] More in those red zone trips that ended up in the field wall. They have no red zone offense. They have no bread and butter plays to make a defense go, ooh, we have to stop the bread and butter. And that opens up other stuff.


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[Assistant] And that's, that's to me an issue too. I mean, even look at their red zone plays, it's sideline to sideline, it's drop back and, oh, we'll just throw a jump ball, fade to a guy that's not even that famous for catching jump balls, whatever it is. And, uh, it just kind of goes back to their lack of identity as an offense altogether.


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[Assistant] Mike Turrico's really awesome. We're really good at what he does, alright? Check out the Mike Turrico podcast. Okay, Football Night in America, Week 8 recap with the guys, Tony, Rodney, Florio, and then...


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[Assistant] He did have a full interview with Aaron Rodgers last week. It was really cool. Rodgers opens up. You know, I always respect that about Aaron Rodgers. He's not afraid to kind of speak his mind and say some things. So check that out. Uh, that full interview is on NBCSports.com.


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[Assistant] And, uh, it'll be on TV, or what is that, on Thursday? It'll be on Thursday at 10 Eastern. We're gonna put it on TV. It'll be on NBC Sports Network, NBCSN. It'll be on there. And here, we got a little bite we wanna play, just from, uh, Tariko and, and, oh, Aaron Rodgers together in the press box.


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[Assistant] He was again, yes. He might only have a few years left of being Houdini, uh, but yes, last night.


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[Assistant] Well, uh, okay, uhm, I think the big thing is, I mean, Rogers was phenomenal, uhm,


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[Assistant] My biggest overarching theme is I like what I'm seeing from the Chiefs defense. And I know people out there are going to go, what? I mean, they let up 31 points and, you know, okay, it's better than what we've seen in other weeks. That's all I'll say. I mean, it's 374 yards of total offense. That's not like egregious. I know that's not perfect, but they made life hard.


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[Assistant] On Green Bay last night. And I'm just, it isn't Aaron Rodgers, number 12, a quarterback. That game's there to be had. They're gonna pull it off.


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[Assistant] You know, number 12 just pulled it off with some of his great audibles, some of his, you know.


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[Assistant] Whether it was the flip into the end zone in the back corner or it was the first drive of the game and he's getting sacked and he throws a ball 50 yards down the field as he's falling to the ground and the guy catches it to put them on the 10 yard line like, you know, again, those are like


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[Assistant] The Chiefs D coordinator, he won the play, like against the Packers offensive coordinator, but the Packers offensive coordinator is like, ha, I got, I have Aaron Rodgers, and he trumps your defense, so eat that.


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[Assistant] Yes, they're disguising, they're blitzing, they're giving a lot of different looks, they're doing a lot of creative things, and you saw Aaron Rodgers at times, you know, trying to get out of plays at the line of scrimmage, he's telling people to do this because he knows, gosh, the play we call them, what they're gonna do to us is gonna screw us over here, we gotta change it.


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[Assistant] All of that, that was part of why they won too. If you didn't have a really experienced quarterback who knew how to get in and out of certain plays against certain defenses, you're not gonna win last night. Spagnolo was, he's great right now. I mean, what he's doing.


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[Assistant] It's a total curve ball from what they were the first six weeks of the year.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, and they're, you know, they do have the ability and they matched up very well first off with the Packers man to man.


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[Assistant] That was an issue. I mean, the Packers could not separate man to man. The only guy that really separated was Aaron Jones and the running backs on a few plays. Other than that, for the most part. You got no Devonte Adams still. No, they need him back. I think that was really glaring last night to me more than anything when I watched the film. I just went, wow, it's glue all over the field.


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[Assistant] And the Chief's defense is not going into the Hall of Fame, or the Legion of Boom, or anything like that, as far as their secondary. But they were all over them. So, I think that is a little scary.


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[Assistant] I will say this just from, you know, like I said, I love what Spagnolo did and all the blitzes and creativities doubled some people in certain situations, you know, double Jimmy Graham and the slot receiver on the other side and some third downs.


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[Assistant] All of that. They do it in a sound way. Okay, that's the other thing too. You know, there's one thing to be creative, but if like you're being creative and like voiding an area of the field where I go, whoa, that's like stupid, that's like not good.


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[Assistant] I wanna see creative, yet you're being sound, and it makes sense. And I'm seeing that. And, you know, I'll say this from the, the Packers standpoint. I do think they got away from what they have made them a little bit.


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[Assistant] You know, they got into the shotgun fest a little there for a while, where it was like, old Green Bay, hey Aaron, just save us and get us to the right play and if it's not the right play, make it happen and make it the right play anyways.


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[Assistant] Well, it could've. It could've. Well, you know, I do think that at certain times, they need to make sure there's a certain person else set on the field to where he doesn't get that freedom to just go, oh, let me get in the shotgun and everybody get out and I'll figure it out.


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[Assistant] You know, what got them there and what will calm down a team like the Chiefs and when they did this, it showed when they got into two tight end sets or one tight end.


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[Assistant] I really think it came down to, and I know I hate to say this cop out of a phrase, like, it just came down to 12 making a few plays, uhm,


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[Assistant] The great screen at the end of the game. Okay, that was a perfect play call to Aaron Jones to let him run away and score a touchdown. And other than that, I think that's really how I would break it down more than anything. But it was Roger's physical ability that helped him out. And I'm encouraged with what I'm seeing from the Chiefs defense.


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[Assistant] Well, you don't think- I think it was bad. Well, you- I mean, he's committed that he's throwing- he's throwing the Jimmy Graham. He did say that, right. So, that's where I give Rogers- Not even that part of it.


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[Assistant] At the pass rush, because that's what he does too. He just goes, okay, am I good? Can I sit here and keep being Aaron Rodgers and dance in place and make a move? And then he's like, oh shit, they're bearing down on me. Oh shit, I got no one to throw. Well, I got a 6'8 tie down, let me throw it up to him. And you know, I take him at his word too of he said he saw.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he saw him coming, wheeling around and, you know, Rogers is one of those guys like Mahomes where a lot of the times they would go, man, that's just lucky. But the fact that they do it 9 out of every 10 times, it's hard to call it luck when it always seems to happen. I like it again then. Okay, it's a good point.


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[Assistant] I would think they probably have more explosive plays on First Down this year too. Maybe we'll look that up in the next podcast. Maybe. Because I would think, because then it sets up for play action, which they like to do on First Down. They come out and they gash you on the first play of a drive or something like that because


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[Assistant] Yeah, you have seen run on first down a lot. So defense goes, okay, we gotta, let's not let them get to second and six here. Let's stop the run.


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[Assistant] They got away from that last night for a little bit, and they can't forget who they are. I wrote at the end of my notes there, one of the last things I wrote is, I like what the Chiefs are doing.


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[Assistant] And packers don't forget what you do. Sure. And you're not, this is not, no it's not, revert to shotgun Aaron Rodgers carry us all over the field again. Let's not do that. You're at your best when you run the ball and stay balanced.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I think, you know, it all stems with the Packers from their interior part of their defense. And I know you've heard me say this a little bit.


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[Assistant] Hey, this is, this is when you know, and I just, the first line I wrote in my notes, signs, when you know your interior D line is no good, is when you play a 2-4 defense, which is two, you know, two down linemen,


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[Assistant] Four linebackers, and one of those linebackers is playing three technique in the bear front. So, they had Zedaria Smith, who's 265 pounds, playing a position that usually a 310 pound man plays.


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[Assistant] Because the guy that they have there that's 295 or 300 pounds is no good, they just said, well, he's no good, so let's put somebody else there, and let's, he can't do much worse, so let's do that. They have issues there, that's where it all stems from, the interior, their linebackers, their D-tackles, none of it is,


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[Assistant] All that pretty right now and it can put their, it puts their secondary in a little bit of a bind because they have to use those guys a little bit to get down in the run game and help and play more aggressive on that end.


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[Assistant] He did phenomenal at three technique, it was. It was Zadarius, the guy they moved down. He did a really good job every time. One, because there's a little issue still with the left side of the offensive line for the, uh, Kansas City Chiefs with Irvin and, uhm, the kid there, Rankins, they had, who they traded for, for, from, with the Houston Texans to start the year.


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[Assistant] You know, I'll say this. I think there's some positives here for the Chiefs. First of all, Matt Moore did play well. There's no doubt about that. You know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, it's play design, and that's what they kinda did. I mean, the formula for the Chiefs was,


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[Assistant] Early on, especially when they kind of started driving the ball and got back to 14-14, it was


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[Assistant] Run the ball, simple passes, and then what I call some Andy Reid specials, like that play there. Oh, fake the toss, fake the reverse, the Tyree kill, and now, you know, Travis Kelce gets like lost in the shuffle, like he's down blocking a part of the line of scrimmage, and he pops out the backside, and Matt Moore made a nice throw.


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[Assistant] You know, I think that was encouraging too. And I think it shows that the Chiefs can win games, you know, with more than like, oh, we gotta be in Patrick Mahomes and shotgun and throw it 50 yards down the field every play. Some things that jumped out to me about the game, uh, you know, is like,


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[Assistant] For, for all what the Chiefs do on run, you know, on offense, you know, running the football and getting the, like, two, two backs, one tight end and all that.


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[Assistant] You know, the one thing I think they might take away from the film is go, man, if we run the ball a little bit, there's this like,


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[Assistant] If we get a full back and a tail back and Travis Kelsey at the traditional tight end place and Tyree kills on one side and Sammy Watkins is on the other.


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[Assistant] You know, what they lose sometimes is their ability to play, they just like match up football. Oh, we're running the ball. Oh, LaShawn McCoy for five. LaShawn McCoy for five. You know what it does? All of a sudden, safety's down. Oh, now it's one on one with Hill and Watkins on the outside.


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[Assistant] There was some plays where, yeaah, you could throw some comebacks and some outroutes at Tyrate Kill, which will lead to go routes and other things like that.


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[Assistant] You know, I think Andy Reid did his best and I think the Packers were very aware of where Tyree Kill was too. So, he wasn't like, I never looked at the film and went, oh man.


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[Assistant] You know, Matt Moore, if that was Patrick Mahomes, that was a touchdown. No, they kind of played, you know, a little conservative or more conservative in the past game. It certainly wasn't aggressive down the field, but I do think it should open the eyes up for the Chiefs to go, man, we don't need to be in, you know, three wide receivers, shotgun every play. We can do some other things to create some big plays.


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[Assistant] There you go, well that's a good formula, you know, that's showing you. So you're not scoring, you're not scoring touchdowns, you know, they're eating up clock, and then of course, with Aaron Rodgers, they usually are scoring touchdowns once they start to sniff the red zone in general. The biggest play, and the biggest moment of the game, we gotta, like, before we move on, Hey!


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[Assistant] This game is going to be a shootout. The Chiefs are in the position of power and LaShawn McCoy fumbles. And that really kind of swing, swang the momentum and the power of the game back into the Packers favor. But at that point, they were on their heels and in trouble.


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[Assistant] You know, but he fumbles and they have a five play, 27 yard drive touchdown and they were kind of in control from that point on.


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[Assistant] Oh, the only thing I would say, I think the Packers need to adopt the New England way, okay, on defense. Your D-line ain't gonna get it done, so just get over it. Put in, put in linebackers, you know, just like I talked about with the Chiefs for a few weeks, like you can't have a quick straight off, quick strike offense and a slow death defense.


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[Assistant] With the Packers, you know, they're airing a little bit on like...


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[Assistant] Oh, we're doing this and we're being sound. Okay, yeah, great. You're being sound, but they're still running for five yards up the middle every time they run it, or they're still moving the ball.


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[Assistant] Fackerel and Blake Martinez and Preston Smith and Zedarius Smith and, and Rashaun Gary all on the field together and do some creative things up front. I don't think the results will be any worse than in the run game especially. And maybe you confuse some people and create some more plays that way too.


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[Assistant] There was no, like, I think from either one of those games, like, schematical, like, where I just, other than like, Shanahan's schematics, I think were special. The rest of these games kind of played out to a way I expected or thought they did on TV.


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[Assistant] That's why it deserves it. You're right. I mean, yeah, we were giving them damn okays because he was handing the ball off the middle to Leonard Fornette. It was when we were like, man, Minshew gives a hell of a handoff. Good strategy.


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[Assistant] To your point, I mean, Gardner's, Gardner's got like some starting quarterback traits to his game. You know, he is smart. He is a consistent thrower of the football. Is his arm big time? No, but it's still a good arm. And then the last piece of the puzzle, and I think what you're referring to is, when,


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[Assistant] Making it look like the offense won the play. And that to me is a big part of evaluating the quarterback. I mean, hey, anybody can hit the 10 yard curl that's wide open. I mean, I'm not gonna go, oh my gosh, if we didn't have that quarterback to throw the 10 yard curl, we would be screwed as a football organization. I mean, that, I don't put a lot of credit into that.


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[Assistant] But when the 10 yard curl is not open and then reads 2, 3, and 4 aren't open, what do you do off of that? That is a big like thing I evaluate at the quarterback.


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[Assistant] It's a tough decision. I think I would go back to Nick Foles. Why? I do. I just think Nick Foles, for the point of the year you're about to be in,


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[Assistant] He's a little more proven, uh, he is definitely a little more battle tested with, we're getting into Pioff type football and things like that. Uh, yes, I think I would go with him, but either way, you have a guy that Gardner Minshew, who is going to be an asset to your football team for the next few years.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the big thing is, politics of football will come into that decision. Got a headline for Texans. Cause they're not going to want to have the guy that's making 20 something million dollars a year sitting on the bench. 100%. And there's ways to walk


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[Assistant] The only thing they're good at is stopping the run. Uh, other than that, this is the big concern with the Houston Texans. There was a game yesterday again, you know.


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[Assistant] There was like really no points where I felt like they were gonna stop the Oakland Raiders. You know, finally got a field goal stop towards the end of the game that made it 24-20 to where then it allowed Deshaun Watson


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[Assistant] They do look good. Their offense is of course really well coached with Gruden. He's got the right formula there and everything he's doing.


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[Assistant] I picked the Texans to win this game and I know I picked a close game and I can't remember what I picked because, you know, I thought that the Raiders would move the ball on them. Like you said, there's not a lot of difference makers on that Houston defense and people are scott free in the passing game way too much.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I think the biggest thing is Deshaun Watson. When you're playing, when he plays a team like the Raiders.


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[Assistant] Who don't have difference makers on their side of the ball, on the defensive side of the ball. You know, like last week we saw with the Raiders.


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[Assistant] Quarterbacks like Watson and Rogers, they can single handedly take over games against defenses like the Oakland Raiders because they don't have great pass rushers, linebackers, nothing special, you know, a lot of good in the secondary, but nothing great.


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[Assistant] And those tend to be like those type of quarterbacks, Mahomes, Watson, Russell Wilson, those are the kind of teams they can just physically win with their great ability.


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[Assistant] His defense had played phenomenal, okay, and they got, they were gonna punt it, they punted them deep down there, they had a-


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[Assistant] Almost had a safety on the first play of the drive. I mean, if Von Miller tackles Jacoby Percet, it's gonna be a safety and the game is gonna be over. I mean, that's gonna be it, but Jacoby Percet breaks the tackle and throws a laser down the sidelines and makes a big play like that.


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[Assistant] You know, I get, I don't understand Joe Vlacko coming out and saying all this stuff publicly. I don't. You know, part of the reason they didn't go for it on fourth and five is because they don't trust you or the offense. I mean, that is true. So that's like, you gotta take that into account.


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[Assistant] Well, he was holding his neck. I saw the play that happened and he kind of scrambled and somebody hit him on like the neck or head and the whole game he was on the sideline, had people working on him. So he's out? He's out. Wow, he's out, so. The Drew Locke era? So we'll see the Drew Locke era start here.


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[Assistant] Well, no, it is not gonna be Drew Locker. Wow, so he's still not ready to go either.


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[Assistant] Broncos defense is really good. I just, I was shocked that the Colts got kind of stymied the way they did.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then Vinatieri with the clutch feel will, I mean, come on.


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[Assistant] You know, he's in a division with the Eagles and the Cowboys and the Redskins who all have really good, big, overpowering offensive lines. This gives them more versatility. Leonard Williams is kind of a DN slash D tackle type.


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[Assistant] So I mean, the Giants, I mean, you give up a third and a five, you're, you're gonna be probably signing him to some sort of a, either franchising him or signing him to some sort of long-term contract when the year's over, I would expect. But I am surprised to see the, the Jets let him go. It's the first trade ever.


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[Assistant] Yep. This was a rumored one. This could possibly happen. There was some interest there. He certainly is going to fit what the Cardinals want to do on the offensive side of the ball. You know, he is more of a spread type of running back. He's had a fumbling issue. I think that's really where he's kind of probably lost his trust with the Dolphins organization.


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[Assistant] You know, whether it's fumbles or, you know, drop pass, uh, when they had the two point conversion against the Redskins a few weeks ago. But certainly a piece of an offense that the Cardinals need and I understand them making that move.


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[Assistant] Maybe not to what they totally want, yeah, because he is due for a new contract. He is at that age where, you know, teams are gonna try to say, oh, well, he's starting to hit the decline and all those issues. Yeah, and I mean, Redskins are just too stupid to trade 20 million, so I don't think that'll happen either.


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[Assistant] Yes, it seems, you know, like it's going down the inevitable, inevitable path. The Buccaneers were, that was there to be had yesterday. They could have won the game. That fumble that was blown dead. Yeah, the fumble that's blown dead. I mean, and again,


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[Assistant] You know, a little like if we talk to Giants, where the Giants just got in the game and they're like, oh damn, we're down 14-nothing, we just got warmed up, I just broke a sweat. You know, same thing for...


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[Assistant] For the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they go down, they get an early field gold, then, you know,


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[Assistant] What do I want to say here? I just want to make sure I get this right. They snapped the ball off of, what, Jamus' face, right?


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[Assistant] Okay, so that becomes a fumble. Tennessee scores what, the next play to make it 7-3. And then, they come back Tampa Bay once again, they got the ball, and I believe that's when he throws the interception, am I correct or no, I'm not. This is where they, uh, just wanna make sure I get this. So he threw the interception in the next drive after that.


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[Assistant] Tennessee didn't drive the ball, they kick it back to them, but they got down 14-3 early on in the game and they had to try to dig themselves out of a hole there and it just wasn't easy.


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[Assistant] I don't think they're a playoff team, but they're gonna like ruin a lot of playoff dreams for teams as they go along. I am, they're better with Tannenhill.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and the big thing that's going to be a pain in the ass with them, you know, they're New England-ish. They have a secondary that can play man, and then they can do a lot of crazy shit with their front seven. So they're going to be annoying. Uh, I just don't think they're going to make it to the playoffs. I think they'll be one of those teams that's just on the outside looking in.


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[Assistant] Definitely, or just the Eagles run game in general. I've been kind of pounding the table. Can the Eagles and Carson Wentz get underneath the center? Can they run the ball downhill again? You know, they got one of the most


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[Assistant] Like big powerful offensive lines in football and they don't do it. So I saw that yesterday once again. I like that. You know, the defense, it just showed them having a little like Ronald Darby back and a Sydney Jones, you know, back out of corner and all that, a little more health in the secondary, still not totally healthy.


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[Assistant] It does make a difference for them. You know, Darby had the big pass breakup at the end. But the big thing is, again, you know, changing, game changing moment where the game is, what was it, 7-3, the Bills are in control,


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[Assistant] And it's a third and three and they call a quarterback design sweep to the right and Josh Allen fumbles and the game was really never the same.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Eagles scored a few plays later, Dallas got their touchdown.


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[Assistant] They go for 2, it's 11-7, and they kinda control the game from that point on.


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[Assistant] Those are just the little things that if Buffalo wants to be taken real seriously and be like a team that can maybe go to the AFC Championship game and play the Patriots, they gotta kinda stop the self-inflicted wounds too. Josh Allen is, he's just still got some of that young Brett Farvin'um where he doesn't, there's no play he can't make.


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[Assistant] And, I'm a little surprised they moved the ball like that on the, the bill's


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[Assistant] Geez, you suck. Yep, you suck. You're like the Miami Dolphins of fantasy football.


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[Assistant] Uh, but yes, the Roto World football podcast, anybody who's interested in fantasy.


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[Assistant] Or really just listen to football and how guys are getting used, uh, I mean, they're going to steer you in the right way. Always. I mean, the whole crew, uh, is extremely knowledgeable. I know I've said that a lot and I actually have gotten, getting less.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say Miami hangs around. I don't know my exact score, so I want to get to my exact score, okay? That you gave on the air? Yup, I got it right here. I'm gonna beat you to it. Here we go.


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[Assistant] It is, nope. Oh, a lot of notes. Well, you know it. I got Dolphins 21, or Steelers 21, Dolphins 13. I think it'll be that type of game. I think Brian Flores' defense will give, be a pain in the butt for the Steelers, but the Steelers win the game nonetheless.


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[Assistant] But I wouldn't bet on, don't bet on, don't bet on bad teams. Don't get money involved. That game could be 21-13 with four seconds left and Ryan Fitzpatrick will throw two pick sixes and you'll lose. I mean, he's capable, so don't do it. Don't bet on bad teams. Alright, you're the man. That was it. We're done. Well done.


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[Assistant] A number of good things to get to on this game. Yes. I think as it relates to the segment title, we're getting to the 91 yard touchdown run. That's right. From Damian Williams. Yup. This fits perfectly because first of all, any kind of touchdown run over 80 yards or 90 yards is so rare.


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[Assistant] It should be in this segment, but the fact that he literally wasn't touched. Right. I think Harrison Smith might have, if you slow it down, might have touched his foot as he ran by. So how did he go 91 yards untouched for a touchdown?


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[Assistant] And think about what's happening to him in that, in that moment, just like we talked about.


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[Assistant] Until he cut back the other side. No, it's too late. He's honed in on his responsibility, which is that tight end, like you're talking about. Right, right. And so then, my big question when I watched it, Good job saying what happened to the defense and why Harrison Smith was out of position. Do you think it was planned for him to cut back?


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[Assistant] I think it's a little foreign to what he normally does as well because these safeties, especially the ones who are good like Harrison Smith, if they're 10, 12 yards off the ball and a running back somehow comes through the line, a linebacker's untouched.


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[Assistant] Sometimes, you know, they have to make a tackle like that and that's somewhat familiar to them. Yes. That position is difficult as it is. He doesn't often have to do that three yards off the ball. Exactly. So he was, he was not only out of position for what a defense is asking someone to do to make a tackle like that, he was out of position for


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[Assistant] Tackling a wide open or a running free running back because he's normally much further off the ball and I think his body or mind are used to making a difficult tackle in that spot.


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[Assistant] The signature plays that Kirk Cousins had been having to fake the reach, boot way back around, have some place to go with it. It wasn't the pass rush that got to him. It looked like he set up and had nowhere to go with the ball. I'm like, this is what I want to ask Chris. The rush didn't get him. He wasn't flustered. Nice multi-tasking.


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[Assistant] The bread and butter, what had been working so well for them, picture it, the fake, the reach, you boot way back around, you set up, he's looking, nothing's there. He wasn't so much in trouble from the rush, he wasn't seeing anything. So you look at the points scored, you look at his numbers way down, what was it if it wasn't the front seven getting after him?


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[Assistant] That's how the front seven stopped the run, which is huge against Dalvin Cook and the Vikings. But there must have been something in the back end, whether it's the disguising causing the hesitation from cousins or maybe Minnesota's receivers were just covered. There was something beyond the front seven.


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[Assistant] He's been hitting those all on October. He, yes. He had, I mean, part of it, if you're 78% for a month, that's fantastic. Right. But they weren't check downs. I mean, he was aggressive in the previous game.


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[Assistant] I completely agree. I want to hit Matt more quickly. I just want to make this statement. If I said he managed the game well, he played the role of game manager well, is that a compliment or is that kind of a put down to him?


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[Assistant] I think that's a compliment. And I say as a compliment, I'm glad you feel the same way. I don't know if you and I have ever talked about that term game manager. Yeaah, no, I have no problem with that. I thought he did it really well. Really well. And the reason I bring it up is because people say, oh, just manage the game, like it's something you can just turn the key and anybody can do it. Yeaah, right, right. Any backup quarterback can do it.


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[Assistant] Harder than said. He was, he was, he was good a lot more than he was bad for most of the game. Yep. And then in the end...


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[Assistant] Those two completions in the final minute to get those 30 yards to get them within field goal range.


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[Assistant] I mean, when you are big in a big moment as a backup quarterback like that, I mean, that's a compliment. He managed the game well. And from me, that means you did well. I just wanted to know what you thought of that term because people use it so often when they're kind of putting down a backup.


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[Assistant] You call it one or fourth and two. Right. They'd been in the three previous downs. They'd been in shotgun, empty backfield, three, four wide. It's kind of like a formation you'd be in if you're at the plus 40 or negative 40. Right. Then on that fourth and a little more than one, they go tight.


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[Assistant] They go under center, they go high backfield, and the Raiders had it snuffed out. Snuffed out.


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[Assistant] I didn't have as much of a problem with the play call. Make a good case there. I thought the Raiders, after watching it a few times, they just played the hell out of that play. They did. Nobody was open. No one would have been there. No. Tied end coming from the front side to the back of the end zone. They were both covered. They were all over it. Stafford didn't have time.


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[Assistant] You've always, you've always said, and we, we, I was sitting here when you ranked the quarterbacks in the offseason, that you don't care much about stats. Right. Or as much as most people. The wins and losses don't mean a lot to you, and where you have Matt Stafford ranked, and he's in the top ten. He is. We'll get to the specifics later, uh, is putting your money where your mouth is with this one, because his team doesn't even have a winning record right now.


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[Assistant] And he's holding some pretty good real estate there, so. He, he definitely is. We'll get to that. Yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Next play. Next play we're wondering about. Broncos. Yep. 24, Browns 19.


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[Assistant] It's the Browns failed fourth and four on the final drive. Want me to run through what I saw and then you can tell me if it's correct or not. Yeah, let's do that.


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[Assistant] Okay, let's back up. I don't remember what the game was, Chris, but we, we were, we broke down a Baker play in the end zone that got picked off where he kind of threw it late. I thought he took five steps. Oh, yeah. It was the, it was the Seahawks game. Yeah. He threw this, the


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[Assistant] I thought he threw it just, just a little bit late because of his footwork. Okay, so on this play here, don't cheat.


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[Assistant] Alright. Okay. I won't. I won't. Go ahead. We agree that I would give my evaluation before you watch. Yes, I like this. This is fun, actually. Okay, so he looks to Jarvis Landry. Jarvis lines up in kind of a tight tandem formation with another receiver. Yes.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Runs a seam or deep in behind him and he runs a drive route behind it. Yeah. And I think he is open right when he's supposed to be open. Gotcha. Beyond the line to gain. Okay. And nothing is easy. I hate saying an easy throw, but the kind of throw you're looking for in practice. This is how it's supposed to work.


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[Assistant] Before I come down too hard on him, I never know what Baker was told about this play. Because he looks to his left to a back.


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[Assistant] It looked to me like he was looking at him like he was legitimately hoping to throw to him. Right, okay. Whether that was his pre-snap read or what he was told before, it forced him to come back too late to when Jarvis was open.


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[Assistant] But he stays with him just long enough to leave me to believe it wasn't just a look-off, like he thought that was where he was going.


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[Assistant] I know everybody else. So for everyone watching at home, you can see for everyone listening, Russell Wilson 1, Deshaun Watson 2, Andrew Rogers, Deshaun Watson 2.


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers is three, Patrick Mahomes four, Lamar Jackson five. Let's just, let's just start there. Start with the top five, Phil. Your reaction to what you just heard.


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[Assistant] Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Right. I want to read 6 through 10 for everybody who hasn't seen it yet. Go ahead. So 6 Matthew Stafford, 7 Tom Brady, 8 Kirk Cousins, 9 Jacoby Bressette, and 10 Dak Prescott.


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[Assistant] Let's speak here at 11 through 16. I'll read the names here. Levin, Carson, Wentz, then Drew Brees, Derek Carr, Matt Ryan, Jimmy Garoppolo, Kyler Murray. I want to bring up Garoppolo there at 15. Too low, too high, Phil. What do you think?


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[Assistant] This headline is Lamar Jackson too low with a question mark. You have Lamar Jackson at five. Gigi says, did you think about putting Lamar Jackson above Patrick Mahomes who you have at number four? Right. Mahomes hasn't even played the last couple of games and has been a bit hobbled and Lamar Jackson has been awesome, was excellent against the Patriots.


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[Assistant] So, you know that's good, that's what this is for, for you to react like that. You mentioned PFF. Yeah. Okay.


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[Assistant] In reaction to Jacobi Brissette being ranked number 9. Sure. You talked about it with your dad. This headline is, Shocker PFF thinks they know better. Sam Munson says, Brissette over Dak, Wentz and Breeze is insanity. Yeaah, well so is, they have


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[Assistant] Can you tell me how far down the list Baker is so I can continue to have a terrible week? He didn't show up in the top 16. No, he wasn't even a thought either. I could just tell you. He has been part of the show as a late...


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[Assistant] Okay, the uh, sidelined statsman about Drew, then we'll move on. I really like this list, but I'm curious why Breeze is lower than Wentz. Barely lower.


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[Assistant] Went to 11, breathed 12. Right. Right. So, uh, does it have to do with the injury sideline him? Yes, it does.


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[Assistant] Like the quarterback play is so good right now. There's a lot of ways to measure that. Listen to you two guys and spend the kind of time I do. The fact that you have Wentz 11. Yeah. Goes to show how strong the top 10 is. Cause I know you like that guy. I do. I'm a big fan of Carson Wentz. I really am. He's, he is a baller.


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[Assistant] There were two, there were two guys, for any of us who've been out, like, covering games. Right. If Peter's there, you're like, okay, I'll try and go next. Yes. The other one is Sal Pal.


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[Assistant] Pick it up, Indy up 10-3, late second quarter. Looks like Indy's gonna really kinda move ahead with Hoyer and put this one out of reach. It does. You know, give some nice cushion. Right. Pick 6.


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[Assistant] Fitzpatrick picks it off near the end zone, runs it back. Yes. Wondering here to dive in. Right. To start with great play by Fitzpatrick or bad play by Hoyer.


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[Assistant] And he's in, he's in a perfect position. Uh, you picture whether it's cover three or man free. He has the middle of the field. He has the middle of the field. He's playing center field. And when you line up on the goal line, you don't have to worry about what's behind you so much. That's the beauty of that play. So you can truly just stand right there and read the quarterback's eyes. Exactly right.


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[Assistant] From the other side as well. Right. That if it is an inside scene. It's Chester Rogers there, number 80, yes. Chester Rogers and Eddie Grambling. I remember him in the Bayou Classic. He starts inside the numbers and he didn't get to the scene where he broke it.


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[Assistant] He got funneled outside. So Hoyer didn't help with his eyes, but his other slot receiver, who was supposed to run a seam, did not affect Fitzpatrick at all. He didn't have to worry about him at all because of how wide he got.


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[Assistant] Ask for Minka Fitzpatrick. I mean, I don't want to give too much credit to one player. However, you can't ignore the fact


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[Assistant] Steelers defense, their improvement, not just with the team winning games, but their creating disruptive plays, creating turnovers, coming up with sacks directly coincides with Minka Fitzpatrick showing up after that trade. It definitely does. What's the role he's playing? What should we know about what he's adding?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's pretty awesome last time I checked. Packers Chargers. Yeah. Got a place I want to start here. Packers.


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[Assistant] We'll likely be, they'll look back no matter where they go in January, don't go, they're going to look back and say this is our worst game. Yes. So what's the lesson that should be learned by the Green Bay coaches and players in offense? Right. And for the rest of the teams defensively, they're going to line up and play against the Packers. What can they learn from what the Chargers are doing?


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[Assistant] So this is just to kind of reiterate and put a tag on something I already asked just in a different way. Not so much a blueprint for other defenses for what to do against Green Bay as it was in ass-kicking by pretty good players.


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[Assistant] As long as it's not the beginning of something. Exactly. Yeah, and I'm not ready to say that yet.


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[Assistant] That's it. You didn't say that. No, I know. Well, say goodbye. That's me.


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[Assistant] So I'm sitting on the bench, I go, I don't think Killer's gonna be very happy with me right now, right? But he comes to the bench after he gets released from the penalty box, and he's still bloody. I mean, there's still blood on his face. He comes over and he goes,


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[Assistant] Can we start with Sam Darnold? Yes, we can. Because, because there was something that you were talking about on, on...


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[Assistant] I was wrong, but you know, how could they do this to them, you make them look like an idiot, you set them up to fail, they should never do this again, and I feel like a lot of those talking points are incorrect. I agree. Your main point was that...


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[Assistant] A lot of people say that when he, when they showed him saying, I'm seeing ghosts out there, it showed a lack of confidence. And that's why, how could you show him that? Because that shows a brittle man who's falling apart.


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[Assistant] That shows exactly the opposite to me. For a guy who can sit back there having a game that we all can see was bad. To be able to just say, have a moment of love. Admit the truth. I'm seeing ghosts out there. This is not going the way that we... That shows confidence. That does not show a lack of confidence.


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[Assistant] It's not embarrassing to say something like that. It's real. And it's honest. And to be able to tell a teammate, I'm seeing ghosts out there. I thought they were rushing me. I thought there was pressure. There wasn't anyone there.


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[Assistant] 100%. That's, if I had a starting quarterback who was young and 22 years old and learning, be honest with me. Don't be like, oh, I got this coach, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to make those plays. It's like, no, you don't have this obviously. This is a rough game. Be honest. And so, and I feel like the, the fact that we've all said, oh, we got to, how could they let that,


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[Assistant] We all say we want to hear what really happens. Yeah. We can't handle that.


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[Assistant] We can't handle it, right? Because when we do hear what a quarterback really says or a coach really says to a, to a, uh, to a player.


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[Assistant] Yes, that happens. So when you're seeing ghosts, it can be multiple defensive backs where there are no defensive backs. It could be blitz pressure. It could be everything. That means you're flustered.


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[Assistant] You've heard it before. Like there's been noises that happen where there shouldn't be noises happening.


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[Assistant] Alright, so, so really, so, so what the F happened here? Yes. To Sam Darnold. What the F happened? Uhm, so basically, I've, I've looked at your notes. Yes you have. And they say, uh, that


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[Assistant] There was some pressure. He was facing some defensive pressure. Basically from play one to the end of the game.


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[Assistant] The way it manifested was really interesting too because he was getting the ball out very quickly. He had to because they were all out. Yes, yes. From snap to throw he was averaging 2.5 seconds. That was the third quickest in the NFL. So he's getting the ball out quick. Yep.


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[Assistant] What he was doing also was throwing the ball downfield. Twelve and a half yards per vertical pass. Yes, right. So there you go. Second highest in the week. Gotcha. Carson Wentz. Okay. So he was getting the ball out quick, but he was throwing it deep downfield. So it was a lack of a play.


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[Assistant] How much does this play into it too? You know if you're Bill Belichick that you have a quarterback that's not gonna scramble. He's not gonna hurt you with his legs. So it's not like he can evade the blitz with getting outside the pocket. He's not a runner. He is a slider and a shuffler. Yes. I did look it up and uh, who do you think has more scrambles this year?


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[Assistant] Uh, kind of a past play that turns into a run, just scrambles between Sam Darnold and Tom Brady, who has more scrambles in 2019.


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[Assistant] Can I give some love to another Patriot? Sure. Uhm, Kyle Vanoy. Yeaah. Baller. He's been sent on a blitz 43 times this year. They're blitzing him a lot. Yep. 10th most of any player. They're using him. Uhm, 28 year old.


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[Assistant] He's having one of the best years of any defensive player up to this point.


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[Assistant] Former second round pick out of BYU. Yup, I made a lot of tapes for him when I was in New England. Barely played for the Lions. I know. He played his first two years with Detroit. He played like 7% of their snaps on defense and he said that they told him


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[Assistant] You trade him over to the Patriots and Bill Belichick for a sixth round pick, which some have called this the best move. I mean, they've made a lot of moves over there with New England that were very good. This is a special move though. He played 91% of snaps last year. I think he might be having a better year this year. He is. You looked at a lot of tape with him.


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[Assistant] Do you, does his stock go up or I mean down in this game because of how he performed or do you just chalk it up as he's playing one of the best defenses he'll ever play?


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[Assistant] Because, uh, I think they had a, uh, what the F happened to player last week that you were talking a lot about, Ezekiel Elliott.


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[Assistant] You go, why don't they use him? Uhm, they used him more this week. Right. That's for sure.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he has, I was looking up, I mean they used him to move the sticks quite a bit. They did. As they should. 35 rushing first downs this year, second most in the league to Chris Carson. They get a lead, that's how they're super dangerous. So, you said the last week,


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[Assistant] That you felt like Ezekiel Elliott had lost a step. Yes. Maybe some of it was not being in shape or maybe he's lost a


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[Assistant] He was the focal point of the Dallas Cowboys offense in a game where they threw up 37 points and beat a division rival. Dominated. It's a game plan for moving forward for this team.


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[Assistant] That was kind of interesting too, and I was looking at the, uh, the yards after contact. Yes. For Ezekiel Elie. And you kind of think Ezekiel Elie should have...


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[Assistant] In the NFL, so the, the more the scatback type is actually outperforming in yards after contact than, uh, Ezekiel.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and the speed and, and just the, the feature. They got weapons. This, this Dallas team has weapons. But can I give, can I give a little lineman love too? I like to do that every once in a while. The lineman, they don't get the love that they deserve. Maybe on draft day. They get the most love on draft day.


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[Assistant] Uh, their guard. Sixth year. Former first round pick out of Notre Dame.


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[Assistant] He's played in every game so far this year for the Cowboys despite some ankle issues, a back issue, uh, he's been there playing for, uh, for the Cowboys. Zach Martin, I want to give him some love.


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[Assistant] You can say he doesn't deserve it too, if I've given love inappropriately, you can say don't give him that much.


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[Assistant] Can we stay in the same game? Yeah. And can we talk about Carson Wentz? Sure. Because I don't think, you know, 10 points and you're hoping that Carson can come up here and light up this.


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[Assistant] Uh, Dallas defense that has shown to have some holes and Rodgers has been able to do that. They've had some games where it's just, you're scratching your head. Uhm, so what happened with Carson Wentz? We got 16 to 26, 191 yards, one touchdown, one interception.


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[Assistant] Looking at the Eagles offense, uh, the wide receivers just speaking to your point of where, where the playmakers right now, uh, of all the teams who have played seven games so far this year.


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[Assistant] Only Washington has fewer yards after the catch than the


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[Assistant] So, uh, and if Deshaun Jackson comes back...


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[Assistant] Anything in the NFL so far, so maybe nothing has happened to him yet. Yeah. Mitchell Trubisky. Yeah.


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[Assistant] From the Chicago Bears, uh, another, another rough game for him.


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[Assistant] It's a Chicago Bears team that for having a quarterback that has a lot of question marks around him and has never really proved himself, they certainly throw the ball, uh, quite a bit and don't take a whole lot of the pressure off and maybe some of that is


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[Assistant] Is game flow and, and how, how the game played out against the Saints. The Saints beat the Bears 36-25. Uhm.