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[Assistant] Did, uh, I believe I have it as the best bet as well. Was that incorrectly placed?


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[Assistant] The Vikings aren't being treated in the same vein as like other NFC contenders. This is a good team. It's welcome.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, they don't profile as like necessarily an elite team, uh, by, by DVRA, I don't believe a 14th on offense, 24th on defense. But like you said, the team that could get better and they already stacked the wins early in the season. I got the Vikings is the best bet and have the Vikings money line in the revenge parlay. Yes. As a Simmons stem points out in the, in the chat, all three of us liking the Vikings, maybe the kiss of death, but so be it. The commanders at the Colts.


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[Assistant] Look, anytime you get Sam Ellinger and Taylor Heinecke in the same, on the same field at the same time, you throw the stats out.


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[Assistant] And you just, you just say like, you know, just sit back and enjoy watching two guys who are truly elite at their profession, uh, play some football. Unfortunately.


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[Assistant] Did miss the Carson Winch revenge angle here. That was an obvious one, Pete, but, uh.


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[Assistant] I am curious what you think about Matt Ryan being benched and sort of what, like,


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[Assistant] What you think went into that, what the reasoning was and, and, and whether the cults are doing them dirty or not.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I don't see, I don't understand how like Sam Ellinger is a three point favorite in his first.


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[Assistant] I gotta think they should be favored in this spot, but maybe, maybe I'm wrong. You can't make Washington road favorite. Catching three points though.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, so we're in Washington. So we got, we got, we got a parlay. We got an official parlay. Thank goodness I didn't have to use my last one because I didn't think you were going to approve it.


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[Assistant] Currently Saints Moneyline, Vikings Moneyline, Commander's Moneyline. That is the revenge parlay.


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[Assistant] Wentz deal added to that. Alright, uhm.


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[Assistant] Titans, speaking of weird lines. Titans minus, Titans minus 2 at the Texans over under 45, 40 and a half.


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[Assistant] Derrick, the tides are dead last, the Texans, excuse me, are dead last in rushing yards allowed and Derrick Henry's starting to heat up. He crushes this team. Uh, can you explain the spread to me Pete? Cause I think it should be much higher.


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[Assistant] Uh, Tannahill DNP on Wednesday, which would be expected. I wouldn't expect he'd practice on Thursday either, obviously monitor that. Um, that's a good point. You know, if Malik Willis is playing, I still think the Titans can win with Willis in there, but Derek Henry is going to have to go absolutely ham.


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[Assistant] He's going to be like 25% in DFS, uh, this week because of the matchup and because of his recent performances. I'll take the Titans as the best bet and just gamble that Tani Hill is going to play.


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[Assistant] And also with the, the backing of the, the Derek Henry just, I mean, I think I can end up getting pretty good value on this, especially if Henry, uh, goes nuts. Henry over rushing guards props, probably a pretty good look too. All right.


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[Assistant] Some rapid fire-ish picks. So we had to endeavor to make this a 45 minute podcast.


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[Assistant] Panthers are the Falcons. Falcons minus four and a half over under 41. Pete, Pete, how much, how many brints and bucks would I need to give you to watch this game?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I got nothing, no best bet here. I do think it's notable that the Falcons are running on first down 72.2% of the time, which is the second highest rate since 2000. Only the 2009 Jets higher running the ball in first down. So look at that. PJ Walker, by the way, getting DJ more and more involved on three and one as a starter. Did you have something there, RJ?


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[Assistant] Giants are 4-0 and trailing after the third quarter of the season. Best of the NFL. Seahawks minus 3 over under 44 and a half.


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, the Giants and the Bills, only two teams not to allow 24 plus points this year. Daniel Jones rushed for 100 yards last week. Pete, for 100 Brinson bucks.


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[Assistant] Can you name the last Giants quarterback before Daniel Jones to rush for 100 yards in a game?


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[Assistant] He left the league in passing in 1935 and touched it passing touchdowns. Fun fact, his, uh, it's gotta be his grand, it's gotta be his grandson, is the head coach of Duke lacrosse.


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[Assistant] There's his son. There's his son! John Donowski is the Duke University head lacrosse coach. He took over after the whole thing, uh, and has actually won three national titles with Duke lacrosse team.


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[Assistant] The Sunday Night Football Twitter account called the Gino Revenge Tour.


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[Assistant] Alright, at least he walks in the spot. I think the Kenneth Walker look.


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[Assistant] Uh, he was chalky DFS last week. He's going to be chalky again this week. And I like his over, I like the over for his rushing yards.


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[Assistant] Three years is a tough one, but I would definitely take Junior Smith for the rest of this year.


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[Assistant] Uhm, man, I'll tell you what, Pete Carroll looks smart. I like the Seahawks here, but not as the best bet. 49ers at the Rams. 49ers minus one and a half.


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[Assistant] Over to 43, the Rams have, uh, the 49ers have won seven of the last eight matchups, the lone loss with the MSC championship game last year. Uh, Jimmy G.


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[Assistant] First in the NFL in yards per passing attempt, 8.4 since joining San Francisco, Christian McCaffrey in his first game back, lined up in the backfield 15 times in the slot, four times and out wide twice. According to next gen stats, I expect we see him moved all over the place by Kyle Shanahan in this game. Pete, can the Rams shake Kyle Shanahan's dominance over their franchise?


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[Assistant] I mean, we laid out all the reasons why, and I can't, I can't disagree. It is a little weird that the line hasn't moved that much, but it is on the, I mean, you could say the game's on the road for the 49ers, but we've seen that place fill up with 49ers fans the last few, uh, last few times they've gone head to head. So we got another consensus. Do you want to fade the, fade the pod? Back the card? Fade the losers. Hashtag fade the pod.


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[Assistant] Pete, we need to get a sound drop of you saying, give me a good loser. You're a loser.


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[Assistant] Billy Clifton say that please. All right. Uh, yeah, we all like the uh, 49ers air.


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[Assistant] Fired out. Packers at the Bills. Bills minus 11 and a half. Over under 47 and a half. This is Sunday Night Football.


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[Assistant] In theory, a good game before the season. Uh, this is the first time ever in Aaron Rodgers career. He will, if he, if it closes above 10, he will be a double digit underdog according to John breach. So I'm going to go with it.


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[Assistant] Packers three game losing streak is the longest since 2018. They had zero third down conversions last week, the first time since 1999.


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[Assistant] The Bills five, five game home winning streak is the longest in the NFL. Their last, uh, six year winning streak, 1998, really throwing it back to, uh, to my high school days. Sean McDermott.


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[Assistant] Similar to Andy Reed, his old, uh, his old mentor. Five and O after the bye.


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers only started in Buffalo, came in week 15 of 2014, completed 40% of his, of his passes, zero touchdowns, two interceptions.


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[Assistant] It's an, it's an enormous number. It's ridiculous to think that you would get 11 and a half points with Aaron Rodgers. I mean, I honestly, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I thought about, like, my gut reaction is like, you give me the points of Aaron Rodgers, then you're like, man, this...


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[Assistant] I don't know if I can do it, and I don't think I can do it. So uhm.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna pass here. I think I would, I think I would lay it with Buffalo as crazy as that is. But I mean, you're right, RJ. It's a ton of points. Aaron Rodgers getting 11 and a half. What a world we live in. Finally, Bengals minus three at the Browns over under 46 and a half. Bengals haven't allowed a second half touchdown this season.


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[Assistant] First teams is the 1934 Lions to do so in seven games. Who would thought we'd have so many 1930s references on this podcast?


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[Assistant] Uh, Burrow is like really tracking on a, on a, on a good note right now, playing some awesome football and putting himself in pretty ridiculous, uh, historical statistical categories. Pete, does he keep it going against this Brown's defense?


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[Assistant] I think we see, like, big game, Joe Burrow, you know, Monday Night Football, he just, he just steps up.


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[Assistant] He likes, he likes, he likes the stage and he's gonna put up big numbers here. I'll take the over 46 and a half yes, the sec, uh, certainly a better pass rush, but capable of torching this, this brown secondary.


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[Assistant] I think you'll get Cleveland kind of cranking up the pass rate a little bit as well.


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[Assistant] Give me the over 46 and a half as a best bet. All right. Let's recap. The revenge parlay. Six to one. Not bad. Saints Moneyline, Vikings Moneyline, Commander's Moneyline.


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[Assistant] Vikings laying the points, 49ers laying the points, Cowboys laying the points, RJ's best bets. And Seahawks, I added the Seahawks. Oh, Seahawks. Yeah, thanks. Sorry about that.


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[Assistant] Hard to get good help around here. Uhm, just kidding, Billy's great. Devo, he was bad. Yeah, see you Devo.


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[Assistant] Dolphins. This is RJ's Best Bets again. Dolphins minus three and a half. Vikings minus three and a half. 49ers minus one and a half.


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[Assistant] Saints over 49 and a half Panthers over 41 and a teaser with the Broncos and the Jets. Uh, RJ, you also have two look ahead lines that we didn't discuss, right?


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[Assistant] Like these lines should both, uh, shift. And now, you gotta make people wait to get my pics so they can fade them accordingly.


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[Assistant] Jaguars minus two and a half. These are my best bets. Steelers. Eagles under 43. Patriots minus two and a half. Vikings minus three and a half. Titans minus two. Bengals over 46 and a half. Cowboys. Lions. Teaser. That's it. That's the show. Week eight. Can't be worse in weeks one through seven, right?


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[Assistant] That's right, RJ stays hot. By the way, if you want all of RJ's picks when he puts them in sportsline.com slash join, use promo code white. You get your first month for a buck. Watch Pete on CBS Sports HQ. He's on like 42 times a day.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, you have a YouTube, your shorts? Are they on, are they on, you have shorts?


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[Assistant] Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening for Pete, for RJ. I'm Brinton. We will see you guys later. Later.


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[Assistant] I'm right there with you. I mean, you know, going at the long-term future of this team.


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[Assistant] They gotta make a decision at one point or another at the quarterback spot, right? I mean, it feels like they've kinda been patchworking it the last few years, whether it be Sam Donald, Baker Mayfield. None of those guys are gonna be the answer. Very rarely.


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[Assistant] Right, very rarely are you going to be able to find that, that next, that quarterback that's already in the league making that next stop and he's not necessarily going to pick Carolina. I mean, we just saw Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Well, that kind of goes into what we were talking about a little bit earlier at the quarterback spot too. If you're a head coaching candidate, how attractive is Carolina to you? Is this a spot where you want to find yourself in? I mean, I guess if they've been a more overall pick, you can talk yourself into maybe a quick start if you get the right quarterback, but it's not like they have a great run of success at the head coaching spots either. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Well, if you want to do that and it kind of, and it goes into maybe changing the narrative for Tepper, that meddling owner, you know, too many cooks in the kitchen type of thing, you know, the old Bill Parcells want to, you know, want to be able to shop for the groceries if you're cooking. Do you give it to Sean Payton?


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[Assistant] Do you give him, say hey, just run my organization from decision making down to coaching and try to turn this thing around. I will be hands off. I love that. And here is the next five years to get the franchise back.


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[Assistant] I think you mentioned it too, Ken Dorsey, if you want to go offensive, he's out of the ball, that's one to keep an eye on.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's brand new to the offensive play calling this year, but it's not like he's never had his hands in the offense. He was with Buffalo all under, uh, Brian Dayball.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Another name I'd bring up if we want to keep it, you know, the offensive theme going on. And I guess the NFC South thing, Byron Lefwich? Lefwich? I mean, if all of a sudden Tom Brady retires at the end of this year, that that's a great time to get out of Tampa Bay.


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[Assistant] I'm doing a lot of other things over here, Brinson. What are you doing? Don't come for me. Don't come for me. I'm making you look good.


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[Assistant] Should I pose this question to you guys? Can I pose this question? Can I pose this question? Yes. What if, I mean, this is kind of outlandish, but...


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[Assistant] I mean, I feel like both teams would like to see these quarterbacks do their first start and both these teams paid these guys. What about a Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson trade?


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Big Six Podcast, CBS Sports Daily. And if I podcast, I'm gonna bring some of your hosts. It is Monday, October the 3rd, if you're watching on YouTube as we recap.


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[Assistant] The 49ers and Rams, a stinker of a division game, but a very interesting one for long-term purposes on Monday night. Joining me to break it down, Ryan Wilson and John Breach, other friends.


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[Assistant] First of all, I picked the Niners to win the division, so if anybody's saying this is stinking for me, whatever. I mean, it was not a thrilling game, I don't think. There were a couple good plays.


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[Assistant] I thought after watching it a couple times that he said draw plays suck. It doesn't matter though.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't watch that stuff. Like why would I watch that? He's like, why are you guys making a big deal out of nothing? He's like, I mean, I don't like whatever he said, like whatever things suck. I don't know what he said. I couldn't exactly read his lips. It was like, um, you just admitted that you did watch it even though you said you didn't watch it and clear. But like, yeah, it was a good point. Wilson. I forgot about that.


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[Assistant] It's a girl and your dad's in jail. That guy is headed to the swammer. And it will not be a good night.


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[Assistant] Um, so to your original point though about the Jimmy G thing, I do wonder, it is a little weird. So Jimmy G's been on the team for a long time. Caution and has, you know, uh,


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[Assistant] As, as a playbook that he's used for Jimmy G as the starter for full seasons for multiple years, you sort of wonder, was there a.


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[Assistant] You know, did he have to go back and sort of rebuild the playbook for Jimmy G strengths based off of?


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[Assistant] And Jimmy G are different. Also, Jimmy G didn't have any reps with his teammates or maybe his timing was off because he was throwing the football by himself on the practice field. Um, you know, I do think that there is a certain


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[Assistant] I mean, there were just times where the, well, okay, we're giving the names a bit, but the, I think the, it felt like Jimmy G was just giving comfort throws here.


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[Assistant] You just flipped to the last chapter of the playbook. I'm saying he just, he's, you're pulling the TreLance pages out and you're putting more Jimmy G pages in.


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[Assistant] And like involving short, like the screen to depot was a great example. It's a one yard pass. I should have known he had, uh,


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[Assistant] You get the ball, you snap the ball, turn and fire to Devo and just let him run.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I, so I think that, I just think that there's...


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[Assistant] There's a redeveloping, you know, I mean, Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy Garoppolo in the 49ers and everyone had moved on. You know, Jimmy G was going somewhere else. He was getting.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying that the 49ers offense, just the way it operates with the Kyle Shanahan style scheme, there is a little more like.


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[Assistant] Uhm, good point of my, uh, uh, Miguel LaPierce in the chat too is, uhm, and I wrote this down in my notes is that, that the touchdown to Devo.


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[Assistant] I mean, the managers were like, maybe Jimmy threw it high on purpose, knowing that corner. Yeah, right. Like he sailed it past a little bit. If he throws it straight into the guy's hands, it's a pick six.


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[Assistant] I think he actually had the exact same complete percentage as last week. He just didn't have the mistakes. Wasn't under as much pressure. Offensive line played better. They got the ball out quicker.


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[Assistant] I think the Divans can even be number one. Well, the number one story can actually be the Rams offensive line. I'm talking about.


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[Assistant] 6.7 yards per play, excuse me, uh, versus three point for the 49ers versus three point five for the Rams. That's a, you know, the, the first downs favor the Rams, but they had the ball longer, I think just because of, you know, how the game played out in the pick six.


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[Assistant] 327 yards for the Niners and 257 for the Rams. It was an ass-kicking.


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[Assistant] And it really shouldn't have been as close as it was, honestly.


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[Assistant] But at the same time, I think it was Steph Curry was on with the Manning seems like they were playing the scoreboard, which I also get because.


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[Assistant] You're up five, you're one and two. You've lost your starting quarterback of the year. You just lost your starting left tackle.


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[Assistant] Your team has outplayed the Rams. So like, like you really just destroyed the Rams the entire game.


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[Assistant] Go up eight and force them to, force them to go get their first touchdown.


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[Assistant] So let me add, let me ask you guys. Just one more quick point on that too. It's like, if you're Kyle Shanahan and you're thinking, all right, Jimmy's played really well. If I get this field goal, we're up eight.


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[Assistant] You know, we're gonna get the ball back with plenty of time, could go down, burn some clock, get a field goal range and win the game.


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[Assistant] Um, but, but I'm saying, well, if it was a missed, my point is that if let's say you, you go for it and you get stuffed and Stafford.


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[Assistant] I mean, Cooper Cup could break one. I mean, it didn't, it didn't feel like the Rams were going to go score, but if you're up five and the Rams go score, they, and they're all of a sudden they're up three and they get the two point conversion.


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[Assistant] Let's get quickly, let's talk about this 49ers defense because.


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[Assistant] Hey, yeah, Scott Murphy in the comments. God help us. Billy's talking about game theory.


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[Assistant] The, the, the defense for the Niners coupled with that run game.


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[Assistant] And Jimmy Garoppolo's ability to be a point guard in Kyle Shaner's play calling. Added in the Rams.


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[Assistant] You know, look like they're not going to be an elite team just based solely on their offensive line.


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[Assistant] It's, this is sort of like how it's, it's why it's stupid. We don't overreact to one week.


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[Assistant] If you were betting right now on who the favorite is to win this division, it's probably the Niners.


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[Assistant] All right. So the question remains Breach. Gino Smith or Jimmy Garoppolo?


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[Assistant] Does people still say that? Sometimes. I'm probably taking Gino because I think that Jimmy G is probably more of a bi-part like.


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[Assistant] Random. Did you realize that, um, that there was a new Fletch movie? Who's in it?


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[Assistant] It's a rebooted sequel. It's like another, it's one of the other books that was written about flash that.


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[Assistant] No one has stand harder for, for, for Gino Smith and Greg Rosenthal over the last like five years.


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[Assistant] Like it's like a, it's like a bit with, with Greg. I mean he is a Gino.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, that's right. So, so like the play where he didn't score was down to one and then they ended up having to kick because they ran Jeff Wilson once.


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[Assistant] They ran, they ran Jeff Wilson twice, got stuffed. Bobby Wagner had a great, Bobby Wagner, a great tagger. Maybe Bobby Wagner had a great tackle on Debo. They ran Jeff Wilson.


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[Assistant] And then they had the kiddle, gets his feet out of bounds. But Devo, like...


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[Assistant] I was just telling you, I think there's going to be a game that they really need.


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[Assistant] I don't know if he's still in the lead. The worst prediction in the history of the show was, uh, our Devo.


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[Assistant] Eric, whatever his last name is, he, I don't know, he's dead.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know what Dibo said? Dibo said he had news about it. Well, what was the worst bet that Dibo made?


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[Assistant] The worst prediction? That Loviska Shunel would be out of the NFL by this time next year.


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[Assistant] I mean, and I'm not, and this is not me trolling, I'm being serious. Like I felt like the Rams were about to blow out the Bengals in the Super Bowl and then, you know, Beckham got hurt.


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[Assistant] And it was like the Rams offense completely fell apart. I think they're still in this dealing with the same issues where they don't have that secondary weapon for Matthew Shiver to throw to and.


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[Assistant] In addition, the offensive line is completely decimated.


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[Assistant] Then the interceptions, like he's gonna throw picks. That's just part of his gameplay, but like.


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[Assistant] It's a hell of a game plan. Well, he's just, he's just an aggressive thrower. But the fact, if he's under that much pressure.


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[Assistant] Like, I'm not, I wouldn't drop Alan Robinson in fantasy if I had him. Oh, okay. I already have.


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[Assistant] Dang. He's in the league, obviously. I just think there's a, there is. He done. Okay, do we, here's the thing about the Rams.


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[Assistant] I think the panic level is perfectly fine if you're, if you're like a 5 plus of the


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[Assistant] And uh, the Browns are not good. The Browns are not good. They're not getting Watson back.


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[Assistant] I would rather deal with the Browns and the Steelers. Conversely though, or I would rather be in the NFC than the AFC.


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[Assistant] I mean, just look at the NFC and you've got the bucks who are.


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[Assistant] Disrespect Arthur Smith at your own peril.


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[Assistant] And like, and uh, and the Devo touchdown could have been... Aaron Donnell was a non-factor, so...


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[Assistant] Yeah, tackling. The Jeff Olson, they came on a play with Eric Donald was out. Yeah, I mean, it's, the D even sees it get better pretty quickly. I think they can do that. The offense, that's a bigger issue.


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[Assistant] The two hardest, right, AFC North or AFC South? AFC North. AFC North, AFC South are the two hardest that AFC West. If like, you were like, if you like, you have to pick the winner or else you die.


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[Assistant] You're not going to be like Miami, like you're not going to get a hot take on Miami if it's the last time. I'm bowing out. What's the alternative if I just bow out?


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[Assistant] If your life's on the line, you're taking the Chiefs. If your life's on the line, you're taking the Eagles.


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[Assistant] Life's on the line is taking the Packers box. So I think that the three hard ones are AFC North, AFC South, and then.


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[Assistant] Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening for Wilson for breach. I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] Personally, I wouldn't take this level of disrespect.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it got so bad that I literally offered to go upstairs and help my wife give me a bath, which is I hate doing. That's how boring these games are.


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[Assistant] And to add to Wilson's statement, there have been 27 teams to start 0-2.


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[Assistant] Be two over the past three years and none of them made the playoffs and we now have three playoff teams from last year that are owing to not just the bangles and tights but also the Raiders.


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[Assistant] You go to one, you'll find out, Brenton. I'm not going to spoil it for you.


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[Assistant] So it's nepotism when you hire your relative. What is it when you hire a fellow NFL fan that cheers for your team? What is going on here, Devo? You couldn't bring in a Bengals fan?


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[Assistant] He's worse than Andy Dalton. He's the new Andy Dalton. He has taken the torch from Andy Dalton's fiery hot red hair and just grabbed it away. When you, when Kirk Cousins is playing


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[Assistant] On Monday night, you just automatically pick against him. He literally has the worst record in Monday night football history of any quarterback who has started ten or more Monday night games. He's two and ten straight up. We just pointed out the graphic here on the YouTube screen.


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[Assistant] Six of those seven losses are by multiple scores. I think, uh, Wilson, you mentioned how on the blocked field goal that


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[Assistant] The Eagles made a great play, tackling, uh, the returner making sure a touchdown didn't happen.


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[Assistant] What got me was that when Jordan Hicks got the gift interception, uh, that Jalen Hurst threw that bounced off his running backs hands,


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[Assistant] He wanted to score a touchdown so badly because he knew Kirk Cousins wasn't going to get a touchdown. He could have just stepped out of bounds at the 10 yard line. No, he went back in and tried to hit the truck his way to the end zone. He only got one more yard, but in his head, you could tell he was thinking, if I go down here, we're not getting a touchdown. So this is all for not. And so it was just when it's just.


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[Assistant] There's no way to fix it. It doesn't matter how good your coach is. Doesn't matter who you have a receiver. Obviously didn't help the Dairy Slate absolutely shut down Justin Jefferson, but there's, there's just no way to fix it.


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[Assistant] They have 15 games left. How many of these opponents do you think will make the playoffs this year? One? One.


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[Assistant] I'm going to start calling him Luke Brenton for all his lukewarm takes. Ooh, nice. I love it.


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[Assistant] Let's let him get to the playoffs first before, uh, it'll be another debate.


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[Assistant] The way the titans are built, I'm taking Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] You have Derrick Henry behind you. Can you imagine if you had to think about tackling Josh Allen and Derrick Henry? Right, right. Basically, it'd be a tough 1-2 punch. Like obviously in his quarterback speed.


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[Assistant] I also feel like he fits Mike Frabel's personality more. He's got that hard nose, kind of edgy.


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[Assistant] No, I don't think and I think Vrabel wouldn't mind if they got rid of them. I think Vrabel likes Daniel a lot.


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[Assistant] I think that he would be more than happy to get rid of him. That doesn't mean he doesn't like him. I agree.


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[Assistant] What I was just gonna say because both of these games were blowouts is that I thought the titans


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[Assistant] For at least the first half looked better. This game was more watchable in the first half than the Vikings-Eagles game. If that even makes sense.


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[Assistant] And it was 7-7 till there was like 8 minutes left in the second quarter and the Titans defense just kept


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[Assistant] And the only way, the point I was going to make there is that right, variable is one of the brighter defensive minds in the game and they played


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[Assistant] Very good defensively in the first half. And if the Bills can just destroy the Titans and flick them away.


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[Assistant] 27 teams in the past 3 years have started 0-2 and 0 of them have made the playoffs. So no 0-2 team since 2019.


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[Assistant] I mean, I would say if I'm the bangles and titans, I feel the best out of the group of- Better than the colts? The colts are 0 and 2.


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[Assistant] Well here's the thing is that the titans play the raiders in week 3 and one of those teams is going to be oh in 3.


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[Assistant] This is true. Yeah, I mean, it's a interesting situation that 0-2 teams, they, they, last three years haven't done anything. And so now we have three playoff teams from last year that are 0-2.


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[Assistant] That's actually a good point. That's a sad point. Yeah. So here's the question for the Bills. When do they lose their first game? Alright, well, I feel like if they get through like the next five weeks that it's going to be going under, it becomes plausible.


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[Assistant] I just think they dominate the dolphins so badly that...


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[Assistant] The Bills have scored at least 31 points in their last three trips to Miami.


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[Assistant] I mean, Tina Hill didn't have Henry for half the season last year and led the team to a number one seed.


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[Assistant] Right, exactly. Carson Wentz, first quarterback in NFL history to throw for 300 yards or more along with three or more touchdowns in each of their first two games with a new team. Yeah.


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[Assistant] What would, you just said, you think Wentz would not do well with the titans, how would Tannehill do with the commanders? They, they've never lose.


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[Assistant] That he had 148 yards and three touchdowns. He was a huge monster out there.


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[Assistant] He sounds high, like his voice or like something else.


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[Assistant] The NFC East has as many teams with three wins or more as the entire AFC. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Well now we sound like college football writers. Don't do, don't do preseason pull.


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[Assistant] He said, he asked if I could get 18 inches per carry.


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[Assistant] Well, we know for a fact, this is not insult Tom Brady. He is a sore loser. Nobody hates losing more of this guy. He doesn't shake people's hands after losses. And I think it's set in pretty quickly that he was not going to win this game. And then he had angry law space on his face starting in about the second quarter.


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[Assistant] The play that really shifted the momentum and said the Chiefs are winning this game was after the Buccaneers came up with a huge play, stopped Kansas City on fourth and one.


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[Assistant] And then the Buccaneers immediately get the ball back, Tom Brady gets hit, fumbles it, Kansas City goes down and scores, takes a 28 to 10 lead, and that was all she wrote. I mean, that's where the upset Brady face immediately showed up. That's where, uh, the, the Buccaneers clearly decided, you know what, we, we can't even afford to run.


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[Assistant] Anymore because the chiefs might put up 75 points in this game. Uh, so I don't know. I, you know, I wasn't watching him closely in the first quarter, but it just felt like that he doesn't usually fall behind.


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[Assistant] I'll say real quick, Wilson, to, to your question even a little bit more. It does feel like all the time, there is a point, at least over the past five years, in the first quarter of the season where we're like, does Brady Moir be playing anymore? Uh, even when he,


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[Assistant] His first season here, they won the Super Bowl in Tampa Bay 2020. I remember there was a prime time loss to the Bears.


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[Assistant] Uh, it was total shocker. Nick Foles was the quarterback for the Bears. And Brady just looked dejected. And it was like, does he want to play anymore? And they were, I think they were three and two. So I guess that was week five.


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[Assistant] And it was like, why did he even sign with a new team? Because they're not going to do anything. So like, I agree with Prince. It's early in the season. It's tough to make a strong judgment on them because so many injuries, suspension to Mike Evans, just everything has gone wrong so far and they're still two and two. They're fine.


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[Assistant] No, that's not sleeping on. I'm talking about the Super Bowl. Everybody has them winning the AFC West. I'm talking about the darling of getting to the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] And when I say everybody, I'm going by the predictions that we make on our website.


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[Assistant] No, I'm saying that's where the sleeping happened is that everybody had the bills or someone that's not the chiefs going to the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Like, you had the Ravens, I had the Broncos, Wilson, who'd you have? Not the Chiefs, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, everybody expected the Chiefs to be good. No one... You're the Chargers. It was like, the Chiefs aren't going to the Suitable.


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[Assistant] And real quick, if people didn't watch the game, this wasn't like that overturned a fourth down. The Bills could have still won it if that penalty wasn't thrown. That was on a first down that that flag happened. So it wasn't like the Bills got a free first down on a third and long or something. And they were already in Raven's territory when that happened. So it was, it was not a good call, but it doesn't, it's not necessarily that it flipped the game.


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[Assistant] And that's the thing you have to emphasize is like, look Lamar, if we're going for this, one mistake we cannot have is an interception under any circumstance. Cause that's the only thing that makes this.


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[Assistant] Yeah, or if it's not there, just try and run it in, like do whatever you need to do. You know, you're faster than everybody, single person on the field. Yeah. I thought, I mean, so you guys would have kicked the field. I would have kicked the field here.


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[Assistant] At the end of the fourth quarter. I mean, I can remember two, two point conversions last year alone at the end of the season. Um, one against the Packers and then maybe against the Rams?


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[Assistant] I don't know, the Browns? I don't know. They had a two, they lost multiple games by one or two points.


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[Assistant] On decisions like this, and Hardwell even talked about this decision after the game.


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[Assistant] And he said that part of the reasoning for going for it was that if they kick a field goal,


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[Assistant] Then you give this advantage to the Bills offense because they would be in four down territory at all times, which I don't think that because if you're, if you're the Bills, if you, if you're the Bills, you get the ball four minutes left and you have three timeouts and the Ravens hold you to three and out and you have a third and 10 from your own 20. Are you going for it or are you punting it?


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[Assistant] Exactly, yes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Harbaugh was saying that they were working under the assumption that the bills would definitely be going for on every fourth down if, uh, if Graven scored.


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[Assistant] All right, it was just weird. It was weird. Everything. Everything was weird.


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[Assistant] So many close losses that you can't, I can't even remember which game it was. But yeah, so they went for two against the Steelers and Packers and failed both times and lost. And so like,


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[Assistant] That's where, and this, I think we've heard Brian McBadden kind of talk about this, where there's a psychological aspect to all of these analytical decisions. And if you keep failing and keep losing games, the players, the tide can start to turn against you.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and so that's not, we don't know if the rest of the locker room isn't starting to feel that way. So you can't keep losing games that your players are playing well enough to win that they're only losing because of


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[Assistant] A couple bad coaching decisions because the players are going to start getting upset.


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[Assistant] I'm back on the KC bandwagon. Put me on the barbecue bandwagon. I'm not flying through tables anymore.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, one thing I said at some point during the preseason is that, obviously, Andy Dalton is nowhere near Drew Brees, so I'm not saying it like this, but that Andy Dalton...


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[Assistant] Andy Dalton seems better designed. He's nowhere near Drew Brees. I'm prepping my statement.


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[Assistant] I am going to say that Andy Dalton seems better designed to run the Saints offense what they normally want to do than James Winston does.


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[Assistant] No, Sean Payton's gone and now James Winston's back to Chuck and Duck. He's got the air yards, he's got all the interceptions, and, you know.


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[Assistant] Well, the thing is, Andy Dalton played a one-score game, ran the offense proficiently, and he didn't have Michael Thomas or Alvin Kamara. There's missing... Is it sustainable?


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[Assistant] But, I think Andy Dalton gives the Saints a better chance to win. I mean, besides the fumble he had where Ryan, uh, slacked me and said Andy Dalton needs to retire now, uhm,


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[Assistant] But then, uh, he apologized to Andy Dalton because of how well he played in the second half. I mean, they were down 16 to 7.


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[Assistant] Get out of here. They didn't, their friends did. Dalton let him on two touchdown drives, two field goal drives, and then had got him within three inches of pulling off an upset.


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[Assistant] Which by the way, we have to mention Will Watts' name because hitting a 60 yard field goal in London and then turning around and missing with a double doing on a 61 yarder descend into overtime.


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[Assistant] And that he would have been the first kicker in NFL history at multiple 60 yard field goals in a game, but. And first ever in London. First ever in London.


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[Assistant] The first worldwide kick, Worldwide Will, that's gonna be his nickname.


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[Assistant] We, I think all three of us had a long discussion about this on last Sunday's podcast after they just beat the Giants, or Monday night, the Monday night podcast.


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[Assistant] And we kind of try to put our finger on when they should let him return. And I think we all agree that week six against the Eagles makes the most sense because there's no reason to rush him back. That is what the Cooper rush.


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[Assistant] Uh, winning games does for you is that you don't have to rush Dak back. If Cooper Rush had gone 0-3 in these games and the Cowboys were sitting at 0-4, then it's like, holy crap, we have to get Dak Prescott on the field right now. We don't care if his thumb is only halfway sewn on his body right now. We just got to get him back out there because Cooper Rush isn't cutting it.


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[Assistant] They're not, they're three in one. If they lose the Rams, they lose the Rams. You would rather lose and let Dak kill another week than rush him back and have him get hurt against the Rams.


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[Assistant] The thing is, what if he beats the rams? And then you're thinking, eh, let's just keep Koopa Rushing for the next week and he beats the eagle.


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[Assistant] You think there were points in practice like last December or November where the Seahawks players were like, why isn't Gina starting? Cause Russell looked so bad last year at the end of the year.


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[Assistant] Think of like trying to flag down the cart and like every one of the broadcast thinks you have gotten injured. So you have to explain why you got on the cart.


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[Assistant] And I like slyly left the field. They've mentioned they're like in, in, in D, DK Metcalf has just left in a cart and you assume if somebody's leaving on a cart that they are injured and nope, just deuces cause they gotta take a deuce.


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[Assistant] Well, this is one of those things too, where like, what would happen if this game was played in dry weather? Cause I doubt, uh, Trevor Lawrence fumbles the ball four times.


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[Assistant] If it's not pouring down rain, I mean, it was a torrential downpour and I think it was the most fumbles by any player in NFL games since at least 1991, uh, with Trevor Lawrence losing four fumbles. And the thing was they were all big because the first one you had mentioned that the, uh, that Jacksonville went up 14 to nothing and it felt like the Eagles got


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[Assistant] Uh, not desperate. They were like, yeah, we can't let this team get up by any more points because near the end of the first quarter, they had a fourth and three at Jacksonville's 40 yard line and they're thinking we're going for this because that's the only thing to do. We're not putting from here. We're down 14, nothing.


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[Assistant] Uh, they didn't get it. So then when Jacksonville got the stop, it really felt like, oh my god, maybe the Jags can put the nail in the coffin here and like go up 21-0. Uh, but instead Trevor Lawrence fumbles it.


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[Assistant] Uh, like Billy just said, to see them go down, uh, cause it was, that was the thought, like what's going to happen when they get punched in the mouth or they make a mistake and they weren't even phased. They fell down 14-0, came right back and had the lead before halftime. So that's exactly what you want to see from a team that could be a championship caliber team.


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[Assistant] He always said I need to give the Eagles defense more credit for forcing the fumbles on Trevor Lawrence.


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[Assistant] Do you keep your liquor in the bathroom? Do you go to the bathroom in your glass?


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[Assistant] First Jets quarterback in franchise history to catch a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Okay, well looking at his numbers, imagine being there and the Steelers go up 20 to 10 in the fourth quarter and based on what Zach Wilson had done the first three quarters, there was no indication that


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[Assistant] The Jets could have possibly even come remotely close to making a comeback. And then here we are, Zach Wilson turning into Patrick Mahomes in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] That's a great building block when you have a guy who missed the first three weeks of the season, comes out, makes his debut, looks like dog doo-doo, to quote Ryan, uh, through the first three quarters, and then just looks unstoppable. That's what you want to see. Uh, so you, I mean, if you're the Jets, you gotta feel pretty good about yourself right now and about what Zach Wilson can do going forward.


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[Assistant] You sound like your third string quarterback and you go toe to toe with the Packers for four quarters. I'd say that's pretty impressive.


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[Assistant] I feel like if he's 100% probably, I think that the Packers were maybe caught off guard. I don't want to say they overlooked the Patriots because, but that's what it felt like.


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[Assistant] Viking Saints, Giants, Packers, 1 and 3 against the spread this year.


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[Assistant] What if Bailey Zappi wins six Super Bowls for Belichick and we have to look back in this podcast and Brenton's quote is just all over the internet for years.


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[Assistant] You just, if you're out there and you can't move around,


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[Assistant] It takes away part of what you can do as a quarterback. You know, like he's not Tom Brady. You can just spot where you want to throw it in 1.2 seconds and sling it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think the Patriots will be able to run on the Lions. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And they just kept chipping away. Like I don't think the Packers had a run of more than 20 yards. It was just, they kept running it, kept running it, kept getting 3, 4, 5 yards per carry and there was nothing New England could do. And I bet that frustrated the hell out of Belichick.


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[Assistant] There's a thing that- I had to slow down. Princeton lives by the motto of keep Princeton first. Yea, through that.


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[Assistant] The Nathaniel Hackett factor has single-handedly made me regret.


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[Assistant] My bronco sural pick. Not even how bad the pick was. But every four weeks, every four weeks in and they're two and two, which isn't even that bad, but there is at least eight things per game that has you scratching your head and wondering what the heck they're doing. And then on top of Nathaniel Hackett, who knew that, uh,


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[Assistant] And, and one of them against the Seahawks at the one yard line when you're looking at taking the lead in a close game. And then this game you're in a 10-10 tie and you fumble it and the Raiders turn to first touchdown and now you're trailing 16-10 and when your offense is that bad you can't afford to let


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[Assistant] The other team's defense score points. It was just unbelievable. I actually thought besides that bummer turn touchdown, the Broncos offense looked the most competent. It's looked all season in the first half. And then obviously they got to touch down near the end, which was kind of, I don't want to say garbage time, but they were down two scores and it happened late. Uh,


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[Assistant] Wonderful. That's like the best case scenario for the Chargers. And the thing is, they still didn't have Kenan Allen out there, and Herbert just finds everybody else. Hey, there's Mike Williams, 120 yards. Austin Eckler has a huge game. It was just one of those.


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[Assistant] There was just no way the Texans offense was going to keep up if the Chargers showed any firepower.


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[Assistant] Every one of those completions went for at least 10 yards. That'll help.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, cause Cordero Patterson was getting beat up cause he was banged up and, uh, yeaah, Cable Huntley.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I thought the Browns coaching staff had a meltdown in this game.


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[Assistant] The first possession opening possession of the game they drive right down the field they have a fourth and goal from the four not like from the one or the two.


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[Assistant] They decide to go for it, they don't get it, so boom, you get zero points on your opening possession, you lose, and then the Falcons get the ball and score, and, and you lose all your momentum. Uh, and then, at the end of the game, at the end of the game,


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[Assistant] The Browns are down 23 to 20. They have the ball with 2 minutes and 30 seconds left. Plenty of time to move the ball. You don't have to do anything. You can basically stay in your normal offense because all you need is a field goal to tie and, uh, you know, if you want to get the touchdown, go for the win.


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[Assistant] Go for it. So what do the Browns do? Well, they're the Browns. So on this drive, they ran nine plays, eight of them were passes. Who do you think had more success on Sunday? Joby Brissett or Nick Chubb?


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb literally averaged 6 yards per carry, and instead of letting him have the ball at all on that drive, they called a pass on 89 plays.


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[Assistant] No. Was that last week or two weeks ago? A couple weeks ago I think when he stormed


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[Assistant] Yeah, but they were just getting warmed up. They should have won that game.


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[Assistant] Okay. We'll find out if the Giants are real. They've got an interesting schedule coming up. They got the Packers and the Ravens in the next two weeks.


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[Assistant] And it is like, if you're a receiver running routes, even if you are opening, it's not like Bakers can get you the ball because there's a 50% chance the ball's getting bad to down the line of scrimmage. And it literally felt like, I mean, you don't want to like blame one person for a loss, but when you throw two really ugly interceptions, one of them,


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[Assistant] Was I think intended for DJ more the game's 13 to 10. It was still definitely.


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[Assistant] Think of being the opponent to play the Panthers and you know you don't have to do a shootout. You just say, oh, if we score 17 points, we win. That's all we have to do. Like even the Broncos could beat them or the Colts or any of these other crappy offenses we talked about.


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[Assistant] They are like a couple that's been married for 50 years and like they just like that but they know they can't separate because there's nowhere else to go. It is, you're made for each other, you're made for no one.


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[Assistant] Probably, yeah. Does Matt Roll make it to November?


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[Assistant] You could combine the two of kicking the field goal and then kicking off deep cause you still have three timeouts.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but they didn't have Shaquille Leonard for the first time. This team is worse. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. He was much better last year. I like went at a, if Matt Ryan played on last year's team, actually, I don't know. Cause Matt Ryan does not look good.


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[Assistant] I mean, this game, first possession, Matt Ryan fumbles, boom. And it's just like, if you're a Colts fan, it's like, oh my God, here we go again. This guy turns up all over seven times for a game. What do we do?


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[Assistant] Well, the Colts put Andrew Luck in a bad position by not putting an offensive line in front of him by letting him get beat up for eight straight years where he said, yeah, you know what? I would literally rather.


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[Assistant] He had like a lacerated spleen, like we're talking just the worst kind of injuries that have pain that is non-stop and that lifestyle.


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[Assistant] And fun fact, slow it up real quick. Frank Reich's fourth down decision on fourth and 21.


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[Assistant] Our Ben Baldwin bot says kicking the field goal was the smarter play versus going for it.


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[Assistant] And then you start asking yourself, how did we get into 4th and 21 in the 4th quarter in such a key situation? Oh yea, because our quarterback got sacked for an 8-yard loss on 3rd and 13.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. Steelers are currently in first place at the season end of the day. They're going to the playoffs before anyone else.


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[Assistant] I can't hear you. I can't hear you because Cooper Rush is still cheering that victory over the Bengals.


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[Assistant] By the way, uh, shout out to Sam Bruce Smith in the comments. He writes, Joe Burrow still hasn't showered. Still hasn't changed. Still wearing most of his uniform. Been sitting in his locker staring forward since the game ended.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let me just play some fun fact games real quick here, see if you guys know the answers.


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[Assistant] Dolphins quarterbacks with five plus passing touchdowns in a game. You know one of them, cause he just did it. Who are the other two? Dan Marino.


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[Assistant] Yep, now the other one's a little tricky, but it's a good guess.


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[Assistant] Patrick Bahomes? No, he did, he's never played for the Dolphins. Nice try.


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[Assistant] Very good. Okay, here's another fun fact. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Entering today's, entering Sunday's action, week two.


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[Assistant] How many games in a row had teams lost when trailing by 21 or more points entering the fourth quarter? It's in the hundreds, I'll give you a hint.


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[Assistant] Yes, that's insane. So, uh, yeaah, the problem for me, there's no problem for me, it's a fantastic game, great win for...


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[Assistant] Maybe you can explain why on God's green earth the Ravens decided to quit covering Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle in the last 15 minutes of that football game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think it was 99 because it wasn't that late in the game, but I could be wrong. I haven't seen it. I'm just, you know, doing the Wilson win chart here.


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[Assistant] Well, I think the takeaway is that they're never out of it, right? So even if Tua does throw interceptions early, even if they're finding ways to, uhm,


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[Assistant] Momentarily bottle up Tyreke and or Jalen. It ain't going to last. Um, one of the things, a couple of things, um, Brent's on a mission on the Thursday podcast, but my new thing now is to note all the fourth down, whether you go for it or not, fourth and one from the minus 45, two minutes to go in the second quarter, the office trailing 21 seven.


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[Assistant] And two will run sport and gets it. I mean, these are simple things that sort of add up at the end of the day, it may not matter in that specific play, but, but I think those things stick out. Also something that stuck out to me late in the game.


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[Assistant] Before the game winning touchdown to Jalen Watto. Chase Evans had a huge run up the middle.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the clock was at 24 seconds when he got tackled and they let 15 seconds run off.


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[Assistant] Uh, before the play, the touchdown throw to, from, from, um, to, uh, to Jalen Waddle. And I was like, okay, what's going on? They had timeouts, where are they stopping the clock? Clearly didn't matter, but I, I do wonder what the thinking was there, whether, uh, that got lost in the mix. But, um, and again, at the end of the day.


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[Assistant] It was inconsequential because, uh, they, you know, the insane comeback. Um, I mean, and this overshadows, by the way, how unbelievably awesome Lamar Jackson was.


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[Assistant] So uhm, we haven't talked about the Sunday Night game yet, but I'm looking at the net passing yards for both teams. Miami's net passing yards is 461.


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[Assistant] That is literally 90% more net passing yards than what the Bears had at 40, I think 41 net passing yards or 48 net passing yards.


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[Assistant] Well, they're my number five team on my Super Bowl roster, so that's good for me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, speaking in terms of real life stuff, their problem, I mean their legit problem for the rest of the AFC. Uh, obviously they smoked the pants off the, uhm, the Patriots in week one. Now the Bills are another story, I think they-


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[Assistant] We saw what happened with the freaking Raiders. What are you doing? So what happened with them? Um, the Colts are the worst team in football somehow. So yeah.


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[Assistant] And this will bleed into the draft conversations, you know, once that gets going in a few months or so, full force wise.


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[Assistant] GMs and coaches can talk themselves into just above average quarterbacks like Tua, no disrespect to Tua. He's not Patrick Holmes.


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[Assistant] If Joe, if Joe Burrows was playing on the Dolphins, he would have 20 touchdowns right now.


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[Assistant] I think I'm sick of Joe Burrow. I'm not changing that. I mean, there's only so much. Put two on the Bengals, he's going out in a body bag. I mean, that, that office alliance amount got worse. But my point is this, I wonder if teams will try to talk themselves into, okay, we'll just get a game manager point guard, to use your word, Brenton, and surround them with


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[Assistant] And see what happens. I mean, it might, I don't know if it's cheaper, but it might be. It might be cheaper, it might be a better way to get, it might be easier to find those pieces at least, than to find, uh, a Justin Herbert or a Patrick Williams.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I-I double down on that loser. You are a loser. Uh, oh, for the Dolphins game. Okay, yes, sure.


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[Assistant] I'm going to go Mike McDaniels, a winner breach because I think, um, he is, he's two and oh, right. They won the first game. Who'd that be? The Patriots, Patriots, Patriots. Um, yeah, so he's two and oh, uh, as a two and oh, two and oh, two and on and oh.


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[Assistant] So, I'm gonna make him the big winner. Uhm, also, I'll give Tyree Kill honorary mention because we made fun of him all offseason for talking up to him.


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[Assistant] I don't know if two was great or not, but two was doing just enough to make Tyreke happy. And it's making that trade more than worth it through two weeks for the Dolphins.


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[Assistant] We're also not talking about Steven Ross, by the way, who is still suspended from the ball.


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[Assistant] By the way, quickly before we move on, the very first play of the game, Devin Duvernay returned the kickoff for a touchdown and we're like, okay, the game's over.


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[Assistant] He had to leave with a concussion so he wasn't in. They actually had, um, Kenyon Greenback to take the last kickoff.


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[Assistant] Which went through the end zone. So, uh, they lost an opportunity there to perhaps get some yards on the kickoff, even though it would have been a long shot. But, uh, that's how that game felt like it took an eternity. And it started with a Raven special teams touchdown and ended with Jalen Waddell doing the penguin dance.


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[Assistant] Is this sustainable for the Raiders? Like, I mean, not the Raiders, excuse me, for the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] I'll say it again, like if Cliff Kingsbury, like was a member of the Pixix podcast in terms of looks, he had gotten fired at halftime. Like it's just that.


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[Assistant] Perhaps. But uhm, actually that reminds me of a story. When we were in Nashville for the draft, Britson, you and I walked from our hotel over to the set at the restaurant, at the bar.


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[Assistant] Exactly. It's like the rich people dating app. I think Cliff Kingsbury is, uh, has that version of not getting fired as a head coach because he's so handsome. Cause there was a lot to hate about the way the Cardinals played for much of that game. And it took.


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[Assistant] We know how that ended in regulation, but it took 200 Renfro fumbles down the stretch in overtime for them to win that football game. And then.


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[Assistant] Uh, what's his name? Byron? What's Byron's last name? I always forget. Byron Murphy.


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[Assistant] It was a touchdown, but it was a touchdown by the same margin that Justin Peele scored the touchdown that they didn't allow in the Sunday night game.


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[Assistant] Well, his final numbers look pretty good, so this must be not great. What'd you say?


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[Assistant] I was gonna say, I would have, I would have literally murdered Breach to get a 2.8 in college.


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[Assistant] I don't know what the issue is in Las Vegas. I can't put my finger on it. I don't think Josh McDaniels is the problem. I don't think Derek Carr is the problem. Obviously, Devontae Adams is the problem.


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[Assistant] Even still, there's no way on Godscreen I thought you lost that game on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Or just put it to you anyway, instead of this way. I didn't have another way prior to that. Uh, are you more concerned about the Raiders?


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[Assistant] And their respective conference and division breach, or are you more concerned about the Cardinals and their respective conference and division?


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[Assistant] By the way, Branson, we're in full on passive aggressive breach mode. He just dropped the 28-3 reference because he's mad about the game.


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[Assistant] Well, Breeze did the grades and he gave the cowboy somehow an A-.


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[Assistant] I think Hunter Renfro is a loser. He hit the two fumbles there. Dan, uh, hopefully he's okay. You got concussed there, I believe. Uh, that was a concern with the final play.


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[Assistant] For the record, by the way, I think the Cardinals are in worse shape than the Raiders. For the overall season?


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[Assistant] Alright, let's take a more general question. Well, here's the most specific question since you're... Yeah, no. Breach's got Bengal's brain. Who ends up with the best record, Breach?


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[Assistant] To be clear, I hated on him when he played for the, uh, the Broncos, excuse me, and you talked me into thinking he was going to win the MVP. Alright, go ahead.


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[Assistant] Worth noting, Flacco came into this game, eight straight losses as a starter. Oh, I can't say that about laughing. And by the way, you mentioned the Nick Chubb thing, and I'm sure breach was, was on this. I watched a lot of this game, especially the second half. So the Browns at first and 10 of the Jets 12 yard line with 202 to left. Jets had no timeouts left. So if Nick Chubb hadn't scored, they just got in the first down. Guess what that means? Game's over. Should he have gone down? You're saying he should have gone down.


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[Assistant] Well here's the thing, and uhm, I was reading this, maybe the athletic was where I read it, but every Friday, Stefanski shows the team different situations, uhm, like late game situations, how


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[Assistant] We talked about the Chargers charging it up on Thursday night. That's the Browns saying, you know, the old, hold my beer.


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[Assistant] Do you know what Tepanski said about that? What? No, I don't. What'd he say? He said...


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[Assistant] We knew exactly what they were going to do. It was quite clear what we needed our cornerbacks to do. And it was play deep. It was not do whatever that happened. Like it was like, it was like you sent your daughter out there and said, okay, cover Corey Davis. And understandably she would have gotten toasted for a 60 yard touchdown. So they knew what they wanted to do. And they still, someone blew coverage.


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[Assistant] Worth noting, uh, you mentioned Garrett Wilson caught that touchdown passes. He had two touchdown passes, eight catches for 102 yards. He absolutely balled out, got hurt at some point. I think in the second half came back after I think at need sort of in the back, butt area. Um, saw Skardner played well. He went out, came back as well. And, um,


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco, 26, 44, 307, four touchdowns, no interceptions. Now he got sacked. He got, he lost, I don't know if he lost him, but I know the ball was stripped a couple of times because then trip typical Joe Flacco fashion. Um, Breeze hall looked good. Michael Carter to look good. And all that said to your point.


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[Assistant] Uh, no. Robert Sala. And uh, Cary Wilson. And Cary Wilson.


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[Assistant] Loser, Brownie the elf. What a stupid thing to put in the middle of the field.


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[Assistant] I love that. I don't remember who called the game, but they're like, well, it's based. Oh no, it was Scott Hansen on the red zone set. It's based on some Scottish lore where he helped with chores around the house. Hey Brownie, beat it.


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[Assistant] Uh, Cooper Rush went crazy on the first drive, ran the ball for 45 minutes and then went semi-crazy in the last drive to set up that field goal. Um, the biggest concern for me is the, how is that offensive line with Leo Collins, uh, Ted Karras, Alex Cappa, Cordell Volson, rookie, how is that unit immeasurably worse than last year's unit?


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[Assistant] How concerned are you that Joe Burrow is on the David Carr path to being scared to catch a football and drop back?


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't think... Seriously, gunshot. Like, at what point is he tired of getting hit because no one will block for him?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause you're playing like crap. But it has nothing to do with the lack of pass blocking.


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[Assistant] Also a not so fun fact for Breach, uh, Joe Burrow was sacked three times in the first half, six times overall. The seventh straight game he's been sacked at least three times. That is the crop.


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[Assistant] So Breach, Joe Burrow was sacked 51 times, 51 times last year. He's on pace to be sacked 811 times this year with a new offensive line.


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[Assistant] How close does he get to that record? Assuming he stays, you know, God willing, healthy for all 17 games.


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[Assistant] Oh my god. That is not sustainable. You have to find a way. I don't know how you fix it in the middle of...


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[Assistant] Also uhm, my winner is, I'm gonna go uhm, deep cut here, I'm gonna go Mike McCarthy.


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[Assistant] And not only does he go for it, he throws the ball. One of the futile throws, uh, from Cooper Rush, complete to Noah Brown, his, uh, his go-to guy. I don't know what provoked Mike McCarthy to do that, but, um, hats off to you, Eminem, and you get my, uh, coach of the, coach of the week. Whoa.


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[Assistant] Or, you know, my, my, uhm, winner in that specific game.


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[Assistant] Also worth noting, by the way, this game wouldn't even have been this close breach if not for the stupid penalties from the cowboys. The jumping off sides on the fourth and fourish with the punt team out there. The stupid Dalton Schultz fumble in the third quarter, late in the third quarter at the plus 30 yard line. I mean, those sorts of things.


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[Assistant] I'll ask you again, Breach. Penaisul or Jamarchais?


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[Assistant] Yes, they can compete in the NFC's, but I think Princeton's right that Daxon will come back and it's going to be like Russ Wilson when he came back with his finger.


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[Assistant] The Bengals offense has not looked great. I mean, honestly, that offense looks sort of like the Steelers offense and that's hugely concerning because they have the players they have and the Steelers have Mitch freaking.


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[Assistant] No, it's not, but we know what Jimmy Garoppolo, and look, I say this to someone who's not a huge Jimmy G fan, who's not a huge Kirby Cousins fan, but again, he was one.


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[Assistant] Tchaikovsky, Tartt, dropped interception away from going to the Super Bowl for the second time in three years.


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[Assistant] Why is Kyle Shanahan- and he answered questions about this after the game, because someone-


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[Assistant] Understandably asking. Why are you running a quarterback between tackles? Like what? You have 27 running backs on the roster.


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[Assistant] Like what are you doing? And he's like, well, did you see the bills? I hate that the bills do that to Josh Allen. That's it. That's cool, dude. Josh Allen's cam Newton. And also it's a terrible idea. Like that doesn't make it right. I thought it was stupid. When I saw the play call before trailing, it's got hurt. I was like, what, why?


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[Assistant] You have Timo Samuel if you want to get someone who's not a running back to run the football. I understand that Trey Lance provides another element that Jimmy G doesn't get you, but that doesn't mean you treat him like Kyle Juszczyk. So...


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[Assistant] Uh, I felt bad for Trey Lance. I thought the play call was not great, and obviously Kyle Shanahan's a good play caller.


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[Assistant] Uh, but it, it cost, uh, Trey Lance's development. And again, this is the same team that traded up to number three overall.


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[Assistant] I'm still stupid. Sure. I don't remember the play. I mean, if it was like fourth and goal from the one, that's one thing. But if you're running like that, the play called the guy, uh, trailing, it's hurt was a question.


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[Assistant] No, I don't think Drew is better than Gino. Gino actually's numbers weren't terrible on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Are the 49ers more or less likely to win the division now with Jimmy G as opposed to Tray Lance?


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[Assistant] No, I don't think we do know. No, we don't because we haven't seen enough of him, but based on what we


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[Assistant] The information we have in front of us, the answer is Jimmy Garoppolo, just because Tray Lance, there's no, there's not enough information.


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[Assistant] It's like starting, it's like saying, well, Patrick Holmes in week 17 of his rookie season, is he better than Alex Smith? Andy Reid knew he was, but the rest of us didn't.


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[Assistant] That's the other thing. And that, that's the risk that you run and this is no fault of Stray Lance is when you draft someone third overall and trade all the first round picks and put all the pressure on duly on, on the player that you take and it just doesn't work out immediately. Hopefully it will work out, but it has.


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[Assistant] Let's bring this back up. And someone mentioned this, a couple people mentioned this in the chat. How would Matt Jones look on this team if he had gone third overall? Like Jimmy Grafler. Right? Yeah. Yeah, I think so.


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[Assistant] But, there's a reason they traded up for Trey Lance. And that was a year after they went to the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] No, I agree. But John Lynch ain't Steve Keim. He can't just keep drafting quarterbacks first overall and have no consequences.


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[Assistant] It's complicated. I agree. Just hope for a speedy recovery and hopefully that, uh, Trey, Trey Lance balls out, but.


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[Assistant] This is great news for Jimmy in terms of getting back on the field and probably best case scenario for not having to go to a new team to learn a new system, yada, yada, yada. And worst case for Trey and, and some, some instances, uh, Kyle and John Lynch.


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[Assistant] Well, the, neither of the bucks for most of the game. And then they had the, uh, fisticuffs where Marshawn Latimore and Mike Evans got, got ejected.


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[Assistant] Well, it's funny because Marshawn was yapping at the sidelines and Bruce Harriot was on the sidelines, uh, yapping back. And then as he walked by Tom Brady, Tom Brady said, uh,


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[Assistant] Fark, you, Bobby. And, uh, the F and the B words there weren't the words that I used. And, uhm, Marshawn took, took, uh, took issue with that.


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[Assistant] Gap to him and Mike Evans came off the top rope, yada, yada, yada. They were both checked.


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[Assistant] By the way, the, the most Jamus adjacent play of the game was two minutes ago on the fourth quarter, down 20 to 10, Chris, the lobby catches a ball in the middle of the field, falls down or towards the sidelines and towards the middle of the field, falls down, untouched, fumbles it and the Buccaneers recover.


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[Assistant] I've never seen or I can't remember seeing someone catch the ball that wasn't in Pee-wee, fall down, fumble the ball without getting touched and then the other team recovers it. But right, the hat trick, Mike Edwards had to pick 6 with 4-11 to go in the fourth quarter to make it 20-3. James's third pick in the second half.


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[Assistant] To mention your daughter, she would do a better job dialing up plays for the Steelers than Matt Canada, who has


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[Assistant] For some reason, doesn't throw the ball in the middle of the field. Doesn't throw the ball down the field. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Here's the, uhm, here's the possessions for the Steelers. Pont, Interception, Field Goal, Pont, Field Goal, Touchdown, Pont, Pont.


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[Assistant] And the last two punt punts, that's when they were trailing 17 to 14. They got the ball with 10 minutes to go in the 4th quarter, 3 and out. Got the ball with 8 minutes to go in the 4th quarter, 3 and out. That was followed up by a 13 play drive by the Patriots to end the game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it felt a lot like last year's Steelers team where they couldn't stop anyone versus a run.


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[Assistant] They lost step to it last year. He's since retired. So, uh, he was a big part of the middle of that defense. I think losing TJ wide is a huge deal, even though he plays on the end. Uh, but the bigger concern for me.


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[Assistant] Is the offense look, you can give up 17 points and be a really good defense.


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[Assistant] What you can't do is have your offense score 14 points and play like crap and expect to win football games. The Patriots are not a good football team. The Seahawks offense, they have Deontay Johnson, they have Najah Harris, they have Chase Claypool, they have George Pickens, they have, uh, Pat Friermuth.


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[Assistant] And Matt Canada, for reasons that remain a mystery to everyone on planet earth, except for Matt Canada, perhaps Mike Tomlin is allowed to keep that job and dial up these stupid ass plays that don't make any sense. Uh, there was frustration after the game from Deontay Johnson. There was frustration after the game from Mitch Clay, uh, Mitch Claypool, Mitch Trubisky, um, about the play calling. This is week two.


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[Assistant] So, I don't know why, one of the things that Steelers fans thought would happen at the top of the due list in the offseason, uhm, before adjusting to the offensive line of the quarterback was to get rid of Matt Canada. And Tomlin gave him a vote of confidence, so.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I don't know how quick Tomlin is, if he's gonna be like Jerry Jones and just dig his heels in and say I'm gonna do it no matter what, or if he's gonna be like, you know what, this isn't working, I'm gonna move on. Someone, half jokingly, probably half serious, a Steelers fan on some story I was reading, said, bring back Todd Haley, Big Ben's gone, so it doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] Todd Haley actually, that, that is, those offices work. Todd Haley had his own thing going on.


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[Assistant] Matt Trubisky will do a Matt. Mitch Trubisky will do a can't remember his name. He will do what you want him to do. This is what Matt Canada wants him to do. Look, he can push the ball down the field with varying degrees of success. It's not going to be Ben Roethlisberger or anything close to it. But if you tell him to check the ball down, that's what he's going to do. And there's a lot of that, a lot of just like head scratching stupidity and it ain't going to change.


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[Assistant] Oh, uhm, I didn't watch the game.


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[Assistant] So I was just watching Red Zone and then I would get the updates. But I knew...


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[Assistant] It was pretty close to the end. Like, they had a chance on third down to stop the, uhm,


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[Assistant] I saw the Patriots, uh, in terms of that last, last long drive they had that, that spanned six and a half minutes, whatever it was, 13 plays. Um, and after that I knew it was over, but in terms of the last two Steelers drives that went three and out, I had no faith that anything was going to change in part because of play calling. They scored two touchdowns in eight quarters offensively. I mean, that's...


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[Assistant] I don't know when or if anything changes. Tomlin has been known to sort of dig his heels in and, you know, try to win with a defense. That ain't going to work in today's NFL. I mean, Megan Fitzpatrick would have a better chance of winning more football games if you let him play quarterback or dial up the plays than Matt Canada. But you know, here we are.


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[Assistant] Here's how bad Matt Canada's been, like no one's talking about the offensive line.


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[Assistant] They haven't been lights out. Don't misunderstand. I also think that Najah Harris is not a hundred percent. I think his split still probably bothered them and I would sit him, but they, you know, again, I don't want to.


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[Assistant] When it's this bad, you don't need Josh McDaniels coming through that door.


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[Assistant] But I mean, there are huge questions about the play calling. And why are players calling them out after week two? Think about that. It's early.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, the Steelers Browse Thursday Night Game is going to be a barn burger boy.


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[Assistant] The Patriots defense is actually pretty good, but that's not going against Lamar Jackson every, every week. So that'll be interesting to see.


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[Assistant] What, uh, what'd you guys think about that bogus touchdown that wasn't called for Justin Fields late in the game?


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[Assistant] Yeah, the play call is questionable, no doubt about it. David Montgomery standing right behind you at 120 rushing yards.


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[Assistant] Earlier in the series, Eberfluse had to throw a challenge flag because the stupid official spotted the ball wrong when Justin Fields scrambled down the left side, got a first down, stuck the ball out and they marked it on the 11 as opposed to the nine. So Eberfluse had to challenge that. So when he challenged a touchdown that wasn't called, he had to waste the challenge and had no more challenges left.


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[Assistant] They showed you the ball on the actual telecast. I don't know what you're talking about.


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[Assistant] Well, the, the, the line is clear and obvious and it was clear and obvious to both me and Breach and a lot of other people that the ball was visibly over the line. So it's, and again, here's the other question. Multi-billion dollar.


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[Assistant] Operations here, fellas. We can't figure out where a football is on a hundred yard field. What are we doing?


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[Assistant] I mean, why are we relying on 65 year old retirees to determine whether 22 year old athletes are where they are on the field?


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[Assistant] Let me mention this to you by the way. Justin Fields, he was, did some nice things. Not asked to do a lot. 7 of 11 for 70 yards. Uh, no touchdowns win or reception there at the end of the game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, here are the other quarterbacks in that draft class that won the first round. And Davis Mills, who won the third round. Mack Jones, 21 of 35 on Sunday for 252, one touchdown, one interception.


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[Assistant] Trevor Lawrence, 25 of 30 for 235, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Davis Mills, 1938, 177, zero, zero. Trey Lance obviously injured. Zach Wilson hasn't played yet because of an injury. At some point you gotta...


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[Assistant] Take the training wheels off, I feel like. And I do think Iberfluce is trying to do this right.


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[Assistant] But and lean on the running game and that worked at times, but you can't have your quarterback. It was the 11th overall pick throwing 11 times and expecting to win football games, especially when the officials are against you.


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[Assistant] That's what you do when your first three quarterbacks hit hurt and you have to play the wide receiver quarterback for the final three quarters.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'll say this, like this team, this, they jumped out to an early league of the Lions have been known to do under Dan Campbell, but unlike previous Lions teams, they didn't falter like the offensive line is awesome.


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[Assistant] Uh, the commanders came roaring back. Carson Wentz is actually playing pretty well. 30 for 46, three, three, seven, three, uh, touchdowns. Jahan Dotson is fantastic. Uh, Curtis Samuel had a great touchdown early in the game. Um, but the Lions, um, were able to stem the, what's that? How do you say? Yeah. Stop the bleeding.


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[Assistant] Yes, stem the tide, stop the bleeding, and held on down the stretch. So that was a huge win for them. And by the way, I'm the Ross St. Brown Day 2 Guy.


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[Assistant] I didn't love it. He didn't play like this at USC.


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[Assistant] Well, they were putting the hurt on him early and then, you know, Carson once broke up, broke up, woke up.


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[Assistant] Well the, I think the, the, the, what you're trying to reason is do you want more time to know your fate or do you want to, that's like saying do you want to know you're going to die in two years or do you know you're going to die right when you get hit by a bug?


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[Assistant] Four, four touchdowns, no interceptions for Jared Goff. I'm Robert St. Brown. It's clearly another one.


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[Assistant] Uhm, who's my loser? I don't want to give it to Carson West because he actually did pretty well. I'll just say, uh, I'll say Jack Del Rio.


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[Assistant] Uh, listen, are we all concerned about the ramps? Absolutely.


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[Assistant] Cause this isn't funny. Like if you're, if you're Sean McVay trying to figure this out.


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[Assistant] And prior to that was the special teams block punt, which returned for touchdown, which was absolutely dog dooky terrible. I have some real concerns about this team.


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[Assistant] Uh, chief among them is your boy Matthew Stafford and whether his arm is okay. I know he's going to be a gunslinger. I know he's going to throw interceptions, but he's had two games that haven't exactly, you know, blown people's hair back who have hair.


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[Assistant] Uh, like I said, I'm concerned about the Rams. I think the Falcons are actually playing better than we perhaps gave them credit for the first two weeks of the season. Mario has been okay. Um, Cordero Patterson is still her best wide receiver. Uh, Drake London had a nice game. No, he was, but it's just funny cause he's a, he's a,


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[Assistant] Originally a special teams ace and wide receiver by nature. Uh, I do agree that Kyle Piss needs to get more involved, but, uh, it was good to see Drake Glenn to come out there.


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[Assistant] And yeah, I don't, I don't know what's going on with Matthew Stafford. I don't know what's going on.


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[Assistant] They won seven games last year and we talked about it all the time in the offseason. They won seven games by a total of what felt like seven points. They're not a good football.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Bears, the Bears have their one on one, but the Bears are not a good whole team either, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Clarence, Clarence in the comments mentions that Pitt's had three targets, which is sad. Who's worse? Matt Canada, Arthur Smith. I would note that, by the way, that Cole Comed has had one target week one, one target week two, no catches yet.


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[Assistant] My winner is Jalen Ramsey for the interception and bounce back after just a fine digs treatment. Loser, eh, I'll give a deal, Artie Smith.


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[Assistant] What is going on? Vic Fangio should snooze.


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[Assistant] I just don't know what's going on. So I'll start with this.


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[Assistant] Went through this with a fine-tooth comb in the Thursday night game. So this is my new thing. First and goal from the one with less than a minute to go in the first half. Broncos trailing 6-3. And, uh, have first down.


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[Assistant] Fail three times to get into the end zone. So it's fourth and goal from the one. Hackett kicks a field goal.


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[Assistant] You know, he called the timeout before the delay game, to avoid the delay game.


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[Assistant] They've had three delay games already this year. How many delay games do you think they had last year with the CanGia? For the entire season? Five. Zero. Two! What are you doing? Like what is going on that you don't know how f-


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[Assistant] One more fun fact that you guys can, can, can continue to talk about this. They've had six goals to go this season, the Broncos have. Four yards.


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[Assistant] They're not playing, they're not the Bears by the way. They have Russ Wilson. And two fumbles.


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[Assistant] Sweet Jesus alive. I mean, this is absolute crazy town. It's like...


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[Assistant] I don't even know what it's like. It's like Nathaniel Ha- again, it's like Breach's daughter took over Nathaniel Hackett's body and is calling it a place.


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[Assistant] That's the concern. As we said last week that they tried to trade Russ several times in Seattle, in part because Russ wasn't on the same page with what old school Pete Carroll wanted to do.


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[Assistant] Looks like Pete Carroll may have been more right than Russ, at least through two weeks. But this team, you know, to Brent's point, most of us were, except for dumb breach, we're down on them. Like just because of the transition period.


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[Assistant] Houston made their first red zone appearance with 1108 to go in the third quarter.


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[Assistant] I don't think Nathaniel Hackett, if this continues, will get fired this year. Look, I think he could be this terrible week in and week out, but I guarantee you this much, he will get fired week two of next season if this continues. Like it's not going to be one of those things, oh, he'll figure it out, uh, early next year. Look, he's, I think he's safe.


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[Assistant] Uh, so after the game, um, Nathaniel Hacker said, I would be booing myself too, because the fans were booing quite loudly. I was getting very frustrated Hacker continued. We got down to the red zone two times.


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[Assistant] Don't get another touchdown, which is unbelievably frustrating. Yeah. Who's calling those plays? Uh, he goes on to say, I don't think we've scored in there yet. You haven't. And he goes on to say that's something that all of our guys have to step it up. Russ said, uh, I guess that.


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[Assistant] That was helpful if needed, uh, when the team was, was booing.


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[Assistant] First time in pick six history that the winners and losers are on opposite teams of who actually won and lost.


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[Assistant] Here's, here's how it started. Chuba Hubbard fumbled the opening kickoff for the Panthers. Yep.


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[Assistant] Oh, fair enough. Especially if Nebraska hires him.


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[Assistant] I mean, fair enough. Uh, Daniel Jones, uh, looked like Daniel Jones at times. He looked better at times. So that's good. I think Brian Dable is, they finally got the right guy for the job. That's good for Giants fans. Um, but it's really hard to tell how good this guy is.