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[Assistant] Uhm, so it'll be interesting to see how much all three of those guys mix in there.


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[Assistant] That people are going to want to buy into him. And if they see a big number in a regular game without this weather, they would, I think they would want to play it. I am more apt to play the Colts if Richardson is in and giving him that, that new element to the offense that Shane Steichen wants to run that you don't really get with Minshew. And in this type of weather game where running is so key, I would love to have him in there.


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[Assistant] And uhm, put, you know, put us some great stats in that game, but it didn't matter against the score, you know, the number they lost by 11 in that game. Indie won, beat them by 11 in Houston. Jacksonville beat Indie by 10 in Indie. And I know that that final was a little bit false. Jacksonville got a late touchdown there.


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[Assistant] But to me, I just suggest, I know transitive property doesn't exist in football, but Jacksonville is so much better than Houston at this point with all the Houston's injuries that this should be a double digit number. That's why if you can lay it at eight and a half, which is what I did for a best bet, you definitely do that. Houston's pass offense has been solid behind the patchwork.


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[Assistant] but like I said, it's all their defenses collapse wi after a solid week one, one of those guys back thi Thomas was been excellent going to miss the game no injured in practice. He's


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[Assistant] And so it's just these injuries just won't stop for Houston. And they were already pretty bad coming into the season. They were projected to be one of the worst teams. Now think of how bad the backups are, the guys that aren't starting for that team. Uhm, so Jacksonville's offense did nothing right, but Kansas City's defense might be elite with Jones back. I think they can come in here and score 30 and cover this pretty easily.


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[Assistant] You can certainly make that argument, but this again, they came into the season with three guys on IR on the offensive line. It was always going to be hard for them. Um, once they get healthy, I think I actually liked the offensive line, the players that were involved there when they were healthy. So we'll see if they can gel in the second half.


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[Assistant] And D'Amico Ryan's, I believe in him as a coach. I just don't think that he's going to win one game or two games on the season. I think he'll be able to cut it out, get the four or five wins and probably get the, give them the three pick or the fourth pick, which isn't much better, but, but, uh, it wouldn't be the number one pick.


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[Assistant] My name would be the Packers. I would disagree with the Jordan Love sentiment. I was high on him coming into the year. He looked great that week one. I don't think he looked very good last week despite throwing two, three touchdowns and no interceptions, but he's going to be better. He was missing Aaron Jones and Christian Watson for that game. So you're, you're really just relying on.


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[Assistant] Uhm, of Atlanta, but New have been awful and now the Jones and Kendrick Miller coming in on his first healthy game. We'll see how good he is in that, but don't really have an expectation there. So it's going to be on Derek Carr to engineer the offense and score a bunch of points here to keep up if


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[Assistant] Jordan Love gets some of these guys back and is able to score some points. New Orleans was a little better in the red zone this week, last week, but they're still taking too many short field goals. They still are not very good at closing out these drives.


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[Assistant] Um, and this doesn't say that they're only being just six and a half at home against a bad Denver team. When they've had a good home field advantage, especially early in the year, when these teams have to play in that heat and they get in the sunlight of the stadium and it just, it takes so much out of you in the second half.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I'm, I'm confused why this game is so low. Uhm, I know Larry likes Denver on this side, especially a plus seven, but I think this line should be like nine and a half. I mean, 90s defense stepped up versus New England despite the injuries. This is going to be easier test here. They should get some guys back. I think Teron Armstead's on track to come back this week. I think Jalen Phillips is going to play this week.


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[Assistant] We'll see if Jalen Waddle is okay to play. And if he is, it could be a bloodbath here for me. Uhm, cause Denver's defense, you just have in your mind that they have a good defense cause we just expect that year in and year out from the Broncos, but they've been really bad. They were the reason that.


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[Assistant] Is it not a bad sign? I mean for the short term, it might be a good sign because you know the backup is.


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[Assistant] Look at what Brady Sung has done in the first two games. I think in the short term, Andy Dalton, with his experience, can at least get the ball down the field and maybe score some points even with his bad receiving course.


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[Assistant] Type CLV on everybody's gravestone, right? Especially since you're the C in CLV. It's Thursday. You're not even close to the C.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I'm not rushing out if Dalton plays to lay it with Seattle, just the injuries continue to pile up with them. I think Jamal Adams might be coming back, I think he's back at practice, but Rick Wolin has hurt, I don't think he's supposed to play, so that secondary does have a more concern there.


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[Assistant] Um, but you know, if, if Dalton can, I mean, Geno's haters were justified in week one. I haven't been the biggest Geno backer of anybody. And, uh, and then I was justified in week two because he played awesome last week.


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[Assistant] So that was good to see. Um, Carolina's offense looks bad, less than 300 yards and two straight versus average defenses. So I do think Dalton could make a difference there, but Seattle's just too banged up to me to lay a bunch of points. So even at six and a half, I'm starting to lean the Carolina side, um, and then hope we get an ugly little, you know,


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[Assistant] Well, you know, this might be the week that he does run the ball because he kind of lashed out at the game plan. It seems like he's thinking too much and you know, he's just going to go out there and play. And if he does, he might get one of those games where he's only throwing 20 passes, even if they are. That would be horrible.


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[Assistant] before it dipped down to 47 and a half. I guess it's creeping back up for some reason, but this just seems like a great spot with this Kansas City games where they are huge favorites where you take the under because they're six and 10 against the spread as more than 10 point favorites in 2018.


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[Assistant] When Patrick Holmes entered the league, but the under is 11 and five in those games with the three of the overs being on the road. The only three games that were on the road in that slate were, did go over. So if you just take the home games here.


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[Assistant] It's 11-2 to the under in this kind of spot for, for Kansas City. So that's why I don't think there's going to be many points in this game. I don't think the Chicago offense is going to score a bunch of points, four points, four and 4.6 yards for play in their first two games. Now they're going against what might be one of the best defenses in the league. Just two touchdowns allowed to Detroit and Jacksonville's offenses, which a lot of people are optimistic on entering the season and still think are pretty good.


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[Assistant] Um, and Kansas City's offense didn't score a ton versus Jacksonville, but 6.2 yards per play. Um, but they're just struggling to score points. We'll see if they can get it done here. If not, maybe, maybe the, uh, the Bears can sneak in with the cover, but I think your best play is just to take the under here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think 4.2 yards per play, I think it was against Jacksonville. I mean, that's really good against a offense that looked pretty solid in the first week.


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[Assistant] Love this play because this long go ahead was 10 and a half and Dallas did what we thought they were going to do.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Jets hung in the first half in that game before the offense fell apart. You know, it's not, they, when you see the final score, you're like, okay, it was completely dominant from front to back. I thought they were actually okay early in the game. Uhm, and then the Dallas offense is just 2-6 in the red zone.


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[Assistant] So it's not like they're, you know, generating a lot of points touchdown wise. They don't need to against these teams, kicking field goals, but field goals is not the way you cover 13 on the road.


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[Assistant] Um, so Arizona's offense was good against Giants D 6.3 yards for play. I don't think they're going to score points here, but just being on the road, being Arizona has been frisky. I think the value has to be Arizona. If you play this, you got to play Arizona or stay away.


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[Assistant] Josh Jacobs, part of his struggles is that his offensive line is terrible. I mean, he has the worst before contact yards per attempt in the league for anybody with any type of volume. And so I don't know that that changes just because Christian McCaffrey went off on this offense and, and the Bear, the Browns with their great offensive line went off.


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[Assistant] Running the ball. Uhm, I have this as the second leg of my teaser. I mentioned the Jets way earlier. This is the second leg. Season Pittsburgh up to plus eight and a half. This market has moved.


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[Assistant] I don't get it. I know the offense has been bad for Pittsburgh. Two incredibly tough matchups.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and Vegas defense has proven to be pretty awful. Just look at that Buffalo game. Only two stops in opponent's territory and 15 drives this year. The only reason they only gave up 16 against Denver is because Denver ran six drives. It was a very short game that they were just, you know, moving the ball up and down the field, just taking a long time to do it.


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[Assistant] So whether the offense for Pittsburgh is capable of holding the ball for 40 minutes like Buffalo did, I don't know. They haven't looked great, but maybe they could do it here because the Vegas defense is so bad. Offensive line, like I said, is a problem. Uhm, I would play Pittsburgh at plus three if available. Right now it's two and a half, so that's why I put it with the Jets as part of my teaser. I think teasing both of those teams up to plus eight and a half is a great look.


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[Assistant] He's going to go over that, considering how much they're going to have to throw in this game. Uhm, I put, I laid on sports line at the minus 10 for San Francisco, so I think they're going to win. Just those offensive line injuries are too much, I think, for me, for the Giants to keep up in this game. But I do say, think with them being down in the second half significantly.


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[Assistant] What's up everyone? Welcome to the Pick 6 Podcast. Katie Mox and Will Brinson here, joined by the czar of the playbook, sports lines Emory Hunt.


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[Assistant] For those who missed the last episode, Propstars shared his NFL betting cheat sheet with us. You can find that episode on YouTube or the audio version wherever you get your podcast. Today we're going to take a look at some AFC South and West win totals and see which overs and unders have the most value. Emory, thank you so much for joining us today. How are we doing?


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[Assistant] I thought the, I thought the best part of the Hall of Fame game was when they gave the headset to Aaron Rodgers and, uh, they just kinda talked to him for a while.


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[Assistant] He, he just nailed that interview and was so glass half full and said all the right things and everything was butterflies and sunshines and.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, you are not, you are not the typical football guy. You are a football encyclopedia and no matter what it is, you know about it. But all right, guys, let's dive in to the AFC South.


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[Assistant] First here, Texans, Colts, Jags, and Titans. Uh, Jaguars are seeking back-to-back division titles for the second time in franchise history. Last time was 98, 99.


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[Assistant] Titans will seek their third division title in the last four seasons and then the Texans and Colts are just trying to join the party. For the first time since the teens, every team in the AFC South will face every team in the AFC North and the NFC South.


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[Assistant] Uh, AFC North had two playoff teams last year. However, each of those teams won at least seven games. The NFC South was probably the worst division in football last year. Every team under 500, even the Bucs, who won the division.


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[Assistant] Guys, if we take a look at the Texans first, plus a thousand to win the AFC South, the longest odds, we know how Brinson feels about this one. Their win total is set to six and a half with the under juice to minus 140. They have not gone over this number since 2020.


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[Assistant] Their line for division win totals is two and a half, which actually that over is juiced to minus 130. Emory, how are you betting Houston? Because I know that Will is very high in the Texans.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Eileen with Brinson on this one and the over, the Texans have the third easiest schedule in the league based on their opponents combined wins last season, which is 123.


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[Assistant] What would be a decent O line, uh, pending this injury that we're talking about here. And also they actually have all 17 games, um, on Sunday, which should benefit both, you know, a rookie quarterback and head coach because they're going to have.


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[Assistant] One forty, uh, last season, or actually not last season, in the last eight seasons, cults are two, five and one to their win total. Emory, uh, what do you think for the cults?


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[Assistant] This is such a bummer because we've been such a pro Texans podcast and then today we're just getting hit with all of these injuries.


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[Assistant] Also, you want to know a fun fact that goes into all of those facts that you just said. Obviously, Shane Steichen, first year head coach with the Colts. The Colts have won 10 plus games and made the playoffs in each of the first season under a new head coach in the last four instances.


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[Assistant] You'll never regret, no, never regret anything said on this podcast. Eileen with Ameri on this one and the over and I like to just obviously look at everybody's


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[Assistant] Strength of schedule. They have the third easiest schedule. They have a positive net rest advantage. None of their opponents have a bye week prior to playing the Colts. That's going to help them up there. You know, Emma, you talked about the O-line. I mean, last year the O-line kind of sucked because Colts quarterbacks were sacked 60 times.


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[Assistant] So his mobility should help mask some of those holes. And to Princeton, your point kind of opened up the run game a little bit. And you know, this.


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[Assistant] So I kinda think that that can happen here. You know, we do know Anthony Richardson is the highest selling rookie jersey out right now.


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[Assistant] Look, I'm, I'm the one that also wants to party with Jim or say, so I mean, I guess that's all we need to say, um, about this guys looking at the Tennessee.


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[Assistant] Titans after producing a 7 and 10 record last season in Tennessee is minus 115 to hit the over seven and a half.


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[Assistant] This year, but look, last year was kind of a down year for them, but prior to that, they won nine plus games in each of the previous six


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[Assistant] Seasons, uhm, and they have actually gone over their win total in four of the five last seasons. Emory, I feel like a lot of people are counting the Titans out this year, but they still got Brable, who's a dog. You still have Ryan Tannehill, which we've discussed on this podcast, is still a good, decent, serviceable quarterback. You got Derrick Henry. Now you have DeAndre Hopkins. Is this an 8-win team?


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[Assistant] The under, yeaah, sorry, the under. The under is priced at even money. On the 10. I feel like this is...


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[Assistant] I just look at their schedule and even though it's kind of like easier I guess than average, they still have the 10th largest increase in difficulty because of course they won the division last year so they're playing


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[Assistant] You know, first place teams like the Chiefs, the Bills, the 49ers, they've got two games in London. I believe they only have like four home games this year, so there's no real home field advantage there. So to me, I'm high on them. I think they're going to be good, but to have over 10 wins just seems like too much.


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[Assistant] of a stretch, uh, for me. And I do feel bad for actually Jacksonville fans that barely get any home games this year because they're trying to move the team to London.


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[Assistant] The Chiefs are seeking their 8th straight division title. It'll be the longest streak in NFL history. Second only to the Patriots who won 11 in a row.


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[Assistant] Their win total, very high, 11 and a half. I don't even need to talk about this because I've said it so many times on this show, death taxes and the chiefs to at least get 12 wins. I'm going over here. Emory, what do you think?


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[Assistant] Couldn't agree with you more. Uh, now onto the Broncos, which were a very sexy team last year.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then a very disappointing team and they're a little bit sexier again with Sean Payton. Their win total is eight and a half, 115 to the over. Denver has been under 500 in each of the last six seasons. They went five and 12 in their first year with Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] Can Sean Payton make this a 9-win team? Brynson, we'll start with you.


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[Assistant] Uh, the offensive line was extremely banged up. Actually, last season, they had 10 different starters that they were rotating in there.


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[Assistant] The Vikings or even maybe the Eagles a little bit with their schedule, but the Broncos went four and nine in one score games last season. They lost five games by three points or fewer.


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[Assistant] And the opposing kickers had real, real luck, real luck. Opposing kickers made 39 of 41 field goal attempts, nearly six field goals over expected. So you gotta think that that kind of regresses positively, uh, for the Broncos here. So I think I lean over on this one, uhm, as well.


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[Assistant] Alright, we are going to take a quick break here, but before we do, or not before we do, what we are going to be talking about is the Raiders and the Chargers win totals. Emory has a lot to say about the Chargers. Can't wait to hear you. Watch Pick 6. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Fixix Podcast. Will Brinson, Katie Mox here with Emory Hunt. Before we get into how Emory really feels about the Chargers this season, let's talk with the


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree. I'm actually kind of on Emery's train here, but I think this is a six-win team, so I would go exact at plus 550 because, uh, I don't think any of us want to take that minus 185 juice. It's just the division is really hard and then their schedule is really hard. It's the second largest jump in year-over-year difficulty. Uh, Jimmy Garoppolo.


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[Assistant] It's been clear to go, but look, nobody knows more than me that he doesn't always last, uhm, a full season.


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[Assistant] I don't know that he ever has, maybe once. But, uh, yeaah, so I'll, I'll lean under on this one, uh, but I'll go six wins for the Raiders, uh, and last but certainly not least, Emory's favorite, the Los Angeles Chargers, line is nine and a half, overdue to minus 140.


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[Assistant] The Chargers are coming off of a 10-7 season that resulted in a disappointing loss to the Jags in the wild card round. Uh, Brinson, we'll start with you. Is this a double-digit win team yet again?


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[Assistant] Ooh, Ryan Wilson in the chat. What's Lamar's playoff record versus Beach Bod? Stafford. I was with Amarite. Let's rank them by unanimous.


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[Assistant] I love all the different names. Here is Jungle Juice, where I was. Alright, well look, I'm drinking that, whatever it is. It's packed juice, jungle juice, whatever. Uh, because I believe maybe all of these excuses about the Chargers, they did sustain a lot of injuries last year, specifically on offense. You know, their receivers, their O-line, their quarterback, and you want to downplay this


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[Assistant] Struggled there. So I do think this is another 10 win team. Also Joey Bosa has kind of changed his off season stuff a little bit. Now he's trying to mirror. I think what his brother has done. I think we're going to get a full season.


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[Assistant] of Joey Bosa, uh, which is really, and Khalil Mack. I mean, like you said, there's so many stars on this team. And I do think that health has been an issue if they can stay healthy. I still believe in the Chargers, but maybe that's the jungle juice.


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[Assistant] Yes, I believe all the players in the league don't want to play on turf anymore, and they've been fighting that for a very long time, so I...


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[Assistant] 100% uh, agree with you on that one. Alright guys, that is going to wrap up our show today. Make sure you join us tomorrow for more AFC coverage.


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[Assistant] And team win totals. Remember to like, comment, and subscribe to the YouTube page for everyone listening to audio only. Make sure you download, follow, leave a five star review, and tell your friends to listen, listen, listen, and watch the pod. Anne-Marie Hunt, thank you so much for joining us today. The czar of the playbook. You can catch him on Sportsline and across CBS Sports HQ. We'll see y'all next time.


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[Assistant] We're literally two weeks away from the NFL starting and uh, and just one week.


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[Assistant] From, uh, NC State going up to Storrs, Connecticut and beginning a season long parade of disappointment in my life.


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[Assistant] There's something Carolina was doing. Oh no, it was like Carolina like needed to do to win to, to, to like for something good to happen.


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[Assistant] You're gonna, you're, you're, you haven't, you haven't, when we invariably lose, what does he say? Loses a back breaking game like Wake Forest.


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[Assistant] You're going to see me on Monday and I'm not going to be very nice on the podcast. I'm going to be like, hi. Hello Katie. What's up? How are we doing?


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[Assistant] Like if we beat, if we, if it's, it's Yukon on Thursday to open up the season, uh, week, week from today and then Carolina, North Carolina loses to South Carolina and Charlotte on Saturday. Like I'll be like, I'll be moonwalking into the podcast.


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[Assistant] Uhm, by the way, I just want to point out real quick while we're doing banter, and this relates to the Phillies, uhm, I don't know if you guys saw my, uh, interactions with cults fans on uh, on Wednesday night or not, uhm, but somebody was like, for some reason they got on like, onto my height, uhm, and


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[Assistant] We'll get to the official measurement in a second, but I will say that a Colts fan


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[Assistant] If you're Googling Will Brinson Height.


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[Assistant] Uh, a hairy thumb. Uh, yeaah, it's actually funny. I was up in, uh, and then, yeaah, as you can see, the great, the great state of North Carolina, uh, has me listed at five, nine. Hazel eyes, accurate. Hair, brown, accurate. Sex, male, accurate. How could the height possibly be wrong?


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[Assistant] I think I actually might be 5'9". I like, the other thing too is like, I'm not six feet tall, so I don't care.


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[Assistant] Like it's not that fun. They're not even clever and they're just, it's just sort of a no, it's just like get lost dudes. Like why are you out here caping up for Jim Ursay? Like he's doing anything good with his franchise. My God.


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[Assistant] The Matt Jones stuff started with the Niners. It's like, Oh, what a Mac. It's like.


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[Assistant] Exactly. And so like, I just think that there with because of just like the nature of that, I would, I would, I would guess that he would probably take another snap, but I think if Brock Purdy is healthy.


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[Assistant] And Sam Darnold is healthy. Then Tray Lance is probably taking his last snap for the 49ers, which is wild to think about. By the way, the compensation that the Dolphins receives from stars.


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[Assistant] For, in the picks that were taken, Jaylen Waddle, Tyree Killen, Bradley Chubb. Would those players be good? Would those players help a team at all?


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[Assistant] Yeah, when we do these bold prediction, uh, podcasts, it's like, it's like always like a John breeches specialty where he's like, finds a way to like say something and you're like, that's bold, but you're also like,


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[Assistant] Wait a minute, that's like a loophole there. Well, like I don't know that Jeff, like I think it's a really good one by Jeff because it is bold, but I don't think that it's got, I don't think there's a big enough loophole to your point, Emory, um, to expect like you would need a literal leap forward. Like Kenny Pickett took in college in 2021 when he went from a guy who, um,


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[Assistant] In 2020 and granted, you know, COVID year, but he played the full season book. So 2020 2019, he threw completed 61.6% of his passes through for 3098 yards is over 12 games, 13 touchdowns and nine picks.


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[Assistant] Like, how the hell is this the same guy? Because he completed 67% of his passes for 4,319 yards in 13 games, including the ACC Championship, for 9, almost 9 yards per attempt.


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[Assistant] In at the NFL level in a difficult division with Matt Canada as his play caller and some question marks on the offensive line, although I think they did a pretty good job. So I do think there's a good chance this is a top 15 offense as every point out, but a top 10 offense is asking for too much of a leap. I will say nonsense.


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[Assistant] Um, so the, the, it, I, I'm making sure I don't answer, you know, when like you, somebody says, ask you a question, you say like,


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[Assistant] Yes. And you're like, wait a minute, no. And you're like, yeah.


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[Assistant] Will Levis should not back up Ryan Tannell. So I will say nonsense. Uh, Malik Willis, like I know, I know, I'll let, I'll let Emory take the floor here. Cause I think that like the idea of like Will Levis being above Malik Willis will get like a fire lit under his butt. Just like as we talked about it before, I will say nonsense.


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[Assistant] Stephen Holder has reported that the trade situation, the trade, go get a trade offer came from Chris Ballard. I think Stephen Holder is a really good reporter and he's covered the Colts for a really long time. And so I'm not questioning that. I, I just, I've covered this league for a long time.


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[Assistant] Watch the Coles pretty, Colts pretty closely and Philip Rivers, right? Uh, big Chris Ballard guy. If you talk to Jim mercy play times of the owners meetings.


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[Assistant] Like this, everything about this is like greasy fingerprints all over it. Like my man is in the kitchen clanging pots and pans.


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[Assistant] I don't think Colts fans understand it. They fell into two of the four greatest quarterback prospects in the last 40 years. That kind of luck doesn't happen, pun intended.


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[Assistant] Like to act like you're going to like trade away Jonathan Taylor, but we've got like, as, as you pointed out, Emory, like you, it's like, I mean, this guy, this guy can be out of the league tomorrow and no one would care. They're like, but we do want a first round pick for him. So it's nonsense. He's coming back. But Emory, I mean, this is, this is what you were talking about. I think.


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[Assistant] Like it's like, you know, these actors who like can put on 30 pounds before a roll. Like James Harden's.


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[Assistant] Alright, welcome back to the pick six podcast superlatives time.


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[Assistant] Alex, Emery, Katie, did you guys get any superlatives?


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[Assistant] When you were, uh, I don't even know if we did Superlatives at McCall at my, my alma mater, McCall. You see the, the, the helmet back there. I'm not sure that we had Superlatives in the yearbook. Cause it's all due to boarding school, right? To like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's not really like a thing that guys do like by themselves.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't cut my own hair. I usually, uh, Katie, Katie G cuts my hair. Um, but I was on, uh, HQ or do we do the podcast? I think on Tuesday and I kept seeing this, like my hair is really long right now.


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[Assistant] And I kept seeing this like mullet creep out of the back and it was freaking me out.


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[Assistant] And so I kinda like started cutting here and I was like, oh, cut it here. And I was like, all of a sudden I was like, what are you doing, Will? You're an idiot. Like this, you could end up with a rat tail. Uh, and actually it ended up okay. So I was like, I was kinda shocked.


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[Assistant] This is, this is like change your mind when you see it. And like the best way, the best scene in it is, uh, during the parade when Ferris is up there singing, uh, Donka Shane and then saying swish and shout, but like Cameron and, um, and Sloan are walking along the street.


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[Assistant] And she's like, and like, you can kind of see they're like, they're like, they're like the way they interact is like a little more than just like friends.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the theory is that it's a fight club theory that Ferris is a born out of Cameron's imagination.


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[Assistant] And all of these things never actually happened. And that's why like Cameron is like, you're lying in bed and he's depressed. He's like, I can't do these. Like Ferris can do whatever he wants. Like, and she was like, what do you think Ferris? Like if you watch a movie thinking that it will blow your mind.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's cool. I like that. I like that. Yeah, that's no, that's a great call because like you, and now you would watch it. You're like, oh my God, like that's amazing. Like how they weave the theme in there. Um, but yeah, like I think, all right, I'm gonna check out the snow piercer thing, make sure, but like.


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[Assistant] You never see, you know, you hear about his dad and his mom, you never see a single member of his family. And so like the whole idea is that like, he's probably fair. He's.


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[Assistant] Most likely to host a podcast and most likely to derail a podcast. That was my, that was my superlative. Uh, my actual superlative is for pre-season, uh, we're doing for, uh, I screwed up here and didn't realize we were doing first round draft picks on my second one, but, um, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'll do it anyway. Don't care. Uh, I do have one in there. Zay Flowers. Most likely to become on the field, Antonio Brown.


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[Assistant] Um, I don't think anybody else wanted to take a day. So we're good there. The like.


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[Assistant] That touchdown run he had, or the touchdown catch and run he had against the, the commanders on Monday night. Like, well, I mean, this guy's so explosive in short yardage.


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[Assistant] Well, but that's not supposed to factor in. They will. That's why they won't, they won't even kick OJ out. Um, crazy. Uh,


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[Assistant] It's not supposed to factor in, but like, like, of course they're going to make the hell of that against it. They held against TO. Uh, but I'll see, I'll see. I think you watch him play. And, uh, I think that's a viable possibility. You guys degree disagree. Think that's a chance that works.


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[Assistant] Well, and I, and I think too, um, sorry, I'm not gonna, I just think I was, I heard something. Didn't somebody say that, um, he, so he, uh,


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[Assistant] The game before the first game after his sister died, I think was a playoff, a college football playoff game that they played at the Superdome.


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[Assistant] Most likely to be the namesake of this podcast. Because he is a pick sticks machine.


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[Assistant] Uh, Katie, I've got one more. It's not a rookie, but even the first round pick.


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[Assistant] Love it. Uhm, I, I went with a non-rookie cause I was like, I mean, I like.


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[Assistant] I mean, somebody, somebody who just can't, they can't, like, I mean, we were talking about, like, this, like, segment, like, hey, here's a good idea for a segment, let's do rookies, and I'm like, Sam Howell!


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[Assistant] For his size, the way that he runs is literally insane. He has no fear when he gives out runs and he's willing to use his legs. I think he's going to use his legs way more than people expect him to this season. I think he'll play the whole year and I think if he can stay healthy that he will really surprise some people and give Washington a chance in this division. That's sort of the.


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[Assistant] The convoluted way. You have a more interesting one on an actual rookie.


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[Assistant] Alright, so that would be my turn to set up Alex. Alex, what uh, what do you have in the preseason action? I was, I was actually perusing draft games trying to, getting into the preseason is freaking hard, man.


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[Assistant] I mean, betting on the NFL is hard in the first place, right? Because the lines are just really tight. The markets are very efficient, but I can look at a spread and say, okay, I know exactly who's playing.


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[Assistant] I'm like going back and checking like week 20, 20, 22 week two and all this stuff. Anyway, Alex, I got a couple, but Alex, what do you got first?


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[Assistant] You can, you can talk me into a bet. It's just about 80-200 to one bet. Like ahh, let's go. Who knows if it hits, it's fun. Uh, I got two quick preseason bets. Um, I will go with the, uh, Jacksonville Jaguars.


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[Assistant] Who wants to play the younger guys or play the guys in the back of the roster. And these guys are all getting legitimate chances to compete. The Jaguars are two in the preseason. Uh, I wanted to blow out last week and I think the dolphins will be a little concerned about injury situations. And so I will take the Jags minus six and a half. I will also take the Ravens.


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[Assistant] And go with the Cardinals and Ravens Moneyline parlay.


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[Assistant] He was so sad that Emory is going to send him a strongly worded text that he left. Um, yeah, or maybe, maybe he had his cat attack him. Uh, either way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, most likely, most likely to come up with, most likely to derail a podcast.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, but you are, you are literally in the trenches too. Are you and are you, are you staying in the dorm for the course of the, for the training camp?


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[Assistant] I think that's one of the cool things about the way the Panthers do it too is that it has that very sort of communal sense. And like I said, some teams are still good about it and some teams have decided to move away from that.


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[Assistant] Sort of approach the training camp, but it is a very Southern sort of appeal to it where everybody kind of rolls into Spartanburg almost like it's a summer camp.


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[Assistant] So just, just to follow on that too, like I don't know that, um, I don't feel like it's being widely talked about maybe as much as it could be, but Dom Capers, the first ever Panthers coach. Like, I remember, you know, I mean, like I'm.


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[Assistant] I'm no longer youthful, but I remember, uh, I remember as a, you know, as a young person in North Carolina, like,


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[Assistant] I don't know if the, the generational shift with Panthers fans just isn't, is it resonating? But it feels like that's not really being played up as much as it could be. Uhm, maybe, maybe, maybe that's more national.


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[Assistant] I mean, I, and I don't want you, I don't want you to have to, uh, overstep your bounds as, as, you know, could you work for the team? But like, I am curious.


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[Assistant] What are the differences? Like what are some of the differences that people might not understand between what Frank Reich is doing here? Because it reminds me a lot maybe of Doug Peterson and Urban Meyer. Not necessarily to that extent, but just a professional, same tree too.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and yeaah, I have like a lot of family, obviously, who are Panthers fans. They're just like, yeaah, like we really thought like Steve Wilkes was going to work out. It's like, they love Steve Wilkes. Steve Wilkes is great. But you need to understand what Frank Reich is bringing to this. And it is a level of professionalism. And the coaching staff he's put together is just a night and day.


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[Assistant] All right, let's, uh, let's take a quick break and then I'm curious about, uh, with DJ more gone, what we think about the past catchers or bright Sean coming up next.


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[Assistant] So Adam Thielen, Hayden Hirsch, DJ Chark, sort of the big notable additions. Obviously the, the more trading DJ Moore is not what you want to do because he's a really good player, but it's what had to be done if you wanted to go up to the number one overall pick.


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[Assistant] So, defensively, yeaah, I mean, I think, I don't know, like, offensively, I'm a lot more bullish on this Panther team than, and a lot of that is Frank Wright, man, like,


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[Assistant] I know we're, I'm not trying to just pile praise on Frank Wright, but when he got fired, Jim Erce was bragging about his record in Indianapolis. It's like, you just fired him, dude. What are you doing? And it's just like that competency, that level of putting quarterbacks in position feels like the,


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[Assistant] The floor is really like league average offense for the Panthers, right?


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[Assistant] That's what, that was going to be my follow up. It's like, what, what are we looking at on this, on the back end of the secondary is like, um, you know, JC Horn, you know, clear, great talent, uh, the injuries you have to deal with Jeremy Chen, like what, specifically to the back end, how do we think that's shaping up?


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[Assistant] So, just, and I'm phrasing this, and I think you'll understand how I'm phrasing this, uhm, as a, since you're, but like, if you were, if you were pinpointing how many wins you think,


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[Assistant] The Panthers will end up with this season. We're obviously early in it, but like, no, I think that's right.


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[Assistant] Uhm, cause I, I assumed I will have friends who listen to this podcast who, uh, I'm close with who are NC State fans. They'll be like, you didn't ask about Icky or Chandler or Chandler Zavala who played to get next to each other in college. So before Katie takes us out just very quickly, like, I mean, Zavala, can he do, I mean, they seem to really like him.


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[Assistant] Come in, like, when they, when they, the behind the scenes calls and like, you know, why, why are they diving into the greatest university in America to, to pluck all these offensive linemen from?


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Fake Six Podcast. Football is back, baby. Trading camp is in full swing for all 32 teams and there is tons of news to catch you up on. If you missed our All 32 series, make sure that you check that out.


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[Assistant] For today, we've got a big old pile of this league news as the NFL takes center stage after the briefest of breaks.


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[Assistant] Joining me are a pair of Bengals superfans in John Breach and Will Brinson. Uh, fellas, feels good to be live again, right?


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[Assistant] All right, Breach, uh, let's skip more of the, I mean, look, as much as we enjoy talking about the mega core pad for the mega brain of the Brinson model.


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[Assistant] Let's get right down to business. I was thinking about scale of one to 10. What is your panic level on the Joe Burrow injury?


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[Assistant] A couple things, I was just going to go back to what you said when, uh, Burrow said, oh, I'm, I'm so glad that I'm not, I'm going to have more than seven days this season. It reminds me when I watched the quarterback series and Patrick Mahomes is like, I haven't had a high ankle sprain in years after working with this new trainer. And then he gets another, you know, high ankle sprain.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then just the terminology that they use, it's, I, when I was reading the reports, it's like, oh, Joe Burrow went lame. And it reminds me of like horse racing when they're about to put a horse down because he's no longer walking anymore. And so that terminology, like, I don't know why they still call it that somebody went lame.


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[Assistant] Uhm, to win the conference and still, uh, plus 1000, 10 to 1 to win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] I still like that bet. I think that this calf injury, like you guys both said, is so much better than when it could have been when all we knew was that he went lame. Uhm, but the 10 and a half, I like a hell of a lot better than 11 and a half, even though that over is juiced to minus 130. I think that that is a good bet. Uhm, I still think that they are a good contender to win this division at plus 160. And of course,


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[Assistant] We know. I've already, I've already put the bet in for the 10 to 1 for the Super Bowl. So I'm actually on the breach train here and I'm not that worried about this injury.


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[Assistant] Well, Embrinson, you brought up an interesting point about not, maybe not betting Joe Burrow for MVP. What do you think this is doing now to his like fantasy value? You see Higgins and you see Chase likely


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[Assistant] To drop, there could be value for them with player props, like how, how will you attack this from a fantasy perspective and then player props?


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[Assistant] I love it. Breach. Love it. Okay, love it. Okay. Well. Love it.


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[Assistant] Alright, Breach loves it, which we love to hear from him. Uh, in the next thing of As the League Turns, which is I feel like a soap opera, you know, if


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[Assistant] If Joe Burrow being injured in the preseason doesn't stir up enough drama for you, uh, you know who does? It's Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers came out with the Will Smith. Keep my coach's name out of your mouth to Sean Payton Brinson.


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[Assistant] What Sean Payton said was a little aggressive. He said what everybody's been thinking. He said, you know, I had my Fox cap still on. Probably shouldn't have said that about a former coach. However, no lies were told as far as I'm concerned. And Rogers had a pretty aggressive comeback to it. What do you make of this drama?


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[Assistant] It's a wild way to start a job and Sean Payton better win because all of these comments are going to come back to haunt him if he doesn't. And Brenton, I think it's interesting what you brought up about Russell Wilson maybe being a little bit soft. I mean, can we really take that out of the equation? The reports from the locker room.


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[Assistant] And you know how he felt about himself and how his teammates felt about him. It's not all positive. I don't think that anybody has the confidence that Russ can really cook. So I can see as a coach.


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[Assistant] Trying to kind of over correct in that way that he's going to be this big superstar that we saw in Seattle as a way to try to kind of help his quarterback through.


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[Assistant] The Jets nine and a half that over juiced to minus 120. I've been pretty high on the Jets and now that you just keep giving, uh, Aaron Rodgers more bulletin board material. I love that Broncos at eight and a half breach. Uh, how are you feeling, uh, in re in revisiting these win totals for the Jets and the Broncos?


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[Assistant] I mean, it only takes a short conversation with Jim Ursay for someone to come out of that meeting and say, I would like to request a trade. Uh, Breach, I have to ask you, because Brinson and I had a conversation this week. We were, we were, you know, kind of joking about the, this whole thing and obviously Jim Ursay with his comments about,


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[Assistant] I could die tomorrow and Jonathan Taylor could not be on this team and nobody would notice or care or whatever it was that he said.


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[Assistant] And I asked Brynse, I said, what NFL owner would you like to party with? And I said, Jim Ursay, because that is some rich, wild stuff that you would do with Jim Ursay. Uh, and Brynson had,


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[Assistant] Very surprising, and I actually, I still don't understand why you picked this person, but Breach, I want to hear-


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[Assistant] Which NFL owner you would like to party with? I have Jim Ursay, and then I'll let, uh, I'll let Brinson surprise us.


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[Assistant] I'm a 49ers fan and I don't want to party with Jed York. Explain yourself.


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[Assistant] But this is, this is what I'm saying. If you're going to just party, why wouldn't you want to go on the wildest ride? If you've got one time to party with an owner, I'm going on the wildest ride because this is like that.


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[Assistant] I like to look dangerous. Alright, let's, let's, let's bring this full circle here. Jim Orsay, obviously owner of the Colts. Let's say Jonathan Taylor doesn't play.


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[Assistant] Early on, Brinson, when we look at these odds, Colts already a long shot, plus 700 to win the division, plus 8,000 to win the conference, and, uh, 12,500 to win the Super Bowl, and that ain't happening. Uh, what do you think about these odds and embedding on their futures if JT isn't on the field?


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[Assistant] Oh, I'm, I'm on the Texans trains too. And if you, if you didn't listen to our all 32, uh, Texans podcast, it is also a wild ride and a fun one. And, uh, Dalton Schultz bet your life on all of his futures props. That was, that's what I took away from that one. Look, I'm high on Anthony Richardson. Uh, obviously Shane Steichen have a ton of respect for him.


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[Assistant] This is the year where, you know, uhm, Jonathan Taylor could have that huge breakout year. Now I know we had one a couple of seasons ago, coming off the injury, didn't really have a great season last year. I don't know if this is the time for him to be kind of playing these games. I think you gotta put your head down, you work, you get those monster numbers again, and then you can have these types of conversations.


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[Assistant] Uh, so we'll have to see how that, I'm not high on the cults, but I do think they have some good pieces.


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[Assistant] In other big name injury news, actually, Jalen Ramsey underwent surgery on his left meniscus on Friday. The surgery is expected to keep Ramsey out for a few months, but Ramsey was quoted saying, tell me whatever the recovery timeline is and I'll beat it by a month.


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[Assistant] Which is wishful thinking on his, uh, on his part. Let's look at their division odds right now. Plus 300 to win the AFC East, uh, plus 1200 to win the AFC and, uh, 2500 to win the Super Bowl win total nine and a half of that over juice to minus 120.


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[Assistant] We've had a lot of conversations about how tough it is to bet the Dolphins based on the two injuries, but now we've got some injuries in their backfield on defense. Brinson, how important is the defense to how you're going to bet the Miami Dolphins?


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[Assistant] And we'll tell you why and how that's going with the 49ers quarterback carousel. Would we come back taking a quick break? You're watching Pick Six. We'll see you in a bit.


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[Assistant] Back on pig sticks with Mox, Brinson and Breach and fellas.


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[Assistant] Ahead of camp. Now low, no limitations doesn't exactly mean that they're not monitoring his pitch count. So far, Purdy has gone two days on with one day off from throwing. Niners had their first padded practice on Monday and Purdy looked pretty solid, especially someone coming off of surgery just five months ago. But guess what? Lance and Sam Darnold also


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[Assistant] But Breach, when you look at these three Niners quarterbacks, uhm, you know, is there any bets or futures that you're eyeing? We know that Sam Darnold is the MVP, is Brinson's favorite long shot, or one of them of the season. But how do you feel about Purdy coming back, what this means to the Niners, and maybe some of these quarterback bets?


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[Assistant] I like that one. I think they have the fifth easiest schedule, but they travel the second most miles. So they have like 21 days less rest than their opponents, which is tough. But I, hey, I don't, I don't hate that bad breach.


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[Assistant] Yeah, a lot of analogies there. Look, I'm obviously very, uh, high on the 49ers. I feel very confident, um, about Brock Purdy. I like that they're monitoring his pitch count and not just putting him out there. I'm worried about week one and having him up, you know, the Steelers have not lost.


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[Assistant] I believe, uhm, their first game in like three years and at home and then you got rock party up against someone like TJ Watt for his first game back. So that's like a little bit scary, but actually one of the season long props.


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[Assistant] That I was looking at this morning, which I just think is a no brainer. George Kittle touchdown passes. The line is at five and a half and that over is plus 110. Last year, George Kittle had a career high.


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[Assistant] George Kittle five and a half with the over at plus one ten. I bet your li- Forget Dalton Schultz that you heard on the Texans podcast. George Kittle over his touchdown passes. That's a no-brainer to me.


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[Assistant] Seven? He had seven with Purdy. He had a couple games with multiple touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Alright, we love that. Okay, so now we're going to move on to some rapid, uh, fire questions here.


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[Assistant] When we look at the week one point spreads, Seahawks running backs are injured.


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[Assistant] I agree with Breach. I mean, I think the vibes are just so high and I was reading some articles that are, maybe I was tweets, I can't remember what it was, but Washington fans were saying, unless you are a Washington fan and have been for a long time, you have no idea what this feels like. It feels like we got, something was stolen from us and we finally got it back.


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[Assistant] Um, and I think that that energy obviously just goes down to the team and the fans are going to be involved in there. And so I think that's going to be huge for them. It is concerning for Seattle about the running backs. I was really high on Kenneth Walker, the third this year.


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[Assistant] I tried to have him be pretty banged up, uhm, is worrisome. And also with Geno Smith, we, we've talked about, I believe on the show about a little regression from Geno Smith, you know, his passing arts prop, 3,800 and a half.


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[Assistant] I already kind of liked that under just because I think the first half, Gino Smith, first five games versus Gino Smith in the second half of the season. Those are two different quarterbacks. And if you don't have a run game.


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[Assistant] That's working. We see a little bit of regression from Gina Smith that does.


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[Assistant] Spell a lot of trouble for Seattle, but I'm gonna go with the glass half full on the side of the Washington.


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[Assistant] Well, I take, I walk back one thing I said on this podcast earlier. I said I wouldn't, you know, I would probably want to party with Jed York the least. I would never party with Dan Snyder. That is one person that I would like to stay.


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[Assistant] There may be some hidden cameras in your cabin on that yacht breach. So I would just be careful on the Dan Snyder yacht.


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[Assistant] Yeah, a couple more rapid fire questions here. So player props. What is more impactful or important Sony Michelle retiring or Zeke Elliott visiting the Patriots? Reach.


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[Assistant] For our show today, uh, everyone, thank you so much for joining us. On behalf of John Breach and Will Brinson and myself, we are so pumped to be back live with you guys. Football season is upon us. Hall of Fame game.


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[Assistant] On Thursday, you know what else is on Thursday? The pick six podcast again at 1 PM. It's going to be our betting.


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[Assistant] Cheat Sheet with me, Brinson, and Propstars. Uhm, he's been on once before. Very, very sharp guy, especially when it comes to betting props. So we're gonna get into that. Thank you so much for joining us today. And, uh, if you are watching this on YouTube, remember to like, comment, and subscribe. And if you're listening to the audio only, do the same. We'll see you on Thursday.


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[Assistant] Of the tier one, tier one is Mahomesboro at Allen, that's it, right? The pushback I got was one, Mahomes used to be his own tier, which, whatever, that's fine. And then two, some people said that, suggested that Josh Allen


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[Assistant] Could even be in tier two, which I thought was a little crazy. Um, we're digging into it a bit and it's like,


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[Assistant] Brian Dable leaves, Daniel Jones takes his big step forward and Josh Allen's turnovers go up. Is there any concern you think with Ken Dorsey? Or is that really more of like first years of play caller adjusting to life with Josh Allen? Like, is there anything to worry about on that front when it comes to the quarterback and the OC there?


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[Assistant] Sorta, and the Bengals now too, maybe a little, it's like, it's like the, it's, they've been so close. And it's, and this is a, this is a franchise that,


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[Assistant] You know, the four Superbowl losses in a row. And then, you know, just really mediocre performance for the most, for the most part, for like a lengthy time, Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean come in and turn them into a contender. And it's like, we're always so quick to say, like, why can't you take that next step? Like, where's that next step? Why can't you take it? And it's.


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[Assistant] It's, it's hard to do that in the NFL, especially with compatible homes in your conference. It's even harder, you know, it's where it's like,


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[Assistant] You know, it internalizes as well. Like, Diggs wants to take that next step, but it feels like that's the issue. Do you feel like maybe because last year is the prohibited favorite, do you feel like maybe this year with all that's going on this off season, everybody's pointing is like, oh, the bill's gonna be down. That maybe there's just like sneaky chip on the shoulder and maybe there's a little less pressure than there has been in years past.


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[Assistant] I think, I think that's probably short. Alright, let's take a quick break and when we come back.


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[Assistant] The questions about the offense, positions of running back and tight in. We'll talk about that next.


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[Assistant] So Brandon Bean mentioned, and I like how you, you, you referenced Bean as, you know, when you're talking about the, the play calling stuff with, with Ken Dorsey, because I think it, um,


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[Assistant] It's probably a little under the radar in the sense of how much like Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott remind me the way that they work together reminds me of Pete Carroll and John Schneider. Does that seem fair? Like they, like they, I mean,


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[Assistant] Brandon B was under Dave Guzman's right hand man in Carolina. Sean McDermott was the defensive coordinator there. And then, you know, they jumped, they didn't jump at the same time, but essentially together, like they had to.


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[Assistant] McDermott had to do the, go through the rigmarole of Doug Whaley because he was ensconced in that, in that front office and brought Brandon Bean up.


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[Assistant] How much of it, like, do you think, so Brandon Bean, I'm not like, he's like telling him what place to call or anything like that, but he is.


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[Assistant] I think that's the way that they work together like that is really interesting and talking about the offense and Dalton Kincaid, he's like, Dalton Kincaid's gonna be out there. We're gonna split this guy out. I mean,


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[Assistant] So it was sort of a larger question about brain to be, but also curious how Dalton Kincaid specifically, uh, will, will fit in that offense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I think it's, uh, it's, it is interesting because they've like, they, you keep expecting them to like, everybody's like, they're going to spin a first round picket or running backs. They don't, they don't, they don't do that. Like they're not like, you know, everybody, everybody thinks that's going to happen.


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[Assistant] It's not the full version, but sort of very similar. Last year with the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] They close at plus 160 to win the AFC West. They win it by like Thanksgiving. They run away with it and it was because the Chargers added.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Khalil Mack, the Raiders out of Devonte Adams, the Bronkers out of Russell Wilson, and they traded away Tyreek Hill. And it feels like this is sort of similar where


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[Assistant] The Pats are 8 to 1, nobody's really considering them, but like the Dolphins are a very popular team to possibly win this division and the Jets trade for Aaron Rodgers and they are the team of the offseason. This is the Aaron Rodgers Jets offseason and the Bills are just sitting there at plus 125.


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[Assistant] Am I insane for thinking this is like one of the best values on the board for the entire NFL preseason?


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[Assistant] So I, I, I don't have, I, I have, I'm working on a graphic for the other, for the three, but I do have the bets that we have remaining to choose from. So I do have a list of players for you guys to see.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pick 6 Podcast, CBS Sports, NFL Podcast.


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[Assistant] Brinson and I will be doing something a little bit different over the next six weeks on the podcast and we are going to introduce or rather reintroduce for some of you long time listeners our All 32 series, the series where we catch up with insiders and give you the need


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[Assistant] Adam, welcome to the show, Pretty Good 2023 for South Miami Sports.


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[Assistant] It's a lot of, you've been entertained, but you've also had your heart broken how many times in a short amount of time. I mean, that's...


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[Assistant] Well, I think the comment you just made will make our producer Billy very happy, but I was going to say Mike McDaniel went from someone like Jimmy Garoppolo who was incredibly injury prone and now his quarterback Miami is dealing with some of the same issues, but you talked about how he needs, you know, more of an arsenal of weapons. Let's talk about Dalvin Cook. He's released.


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[Assistant] From the Vikings, and he is the odds-on favorite to go to, excuse me, Miami is the odds-on favorite to get him. How legitimate are these rumors for Cook going to Miami?


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[Assistant] Uh, I hate that he doesn't care about tight ends. That's actually my favorite position. When you look at this defense, you know, Miami didn't just make one splash on the defensive side, obviously Jalen Ramsey, but Vic Fangio appears to be a massive addition. What's the potential for this defense?


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[Assistant] Well then it sounds like you like them over their win total, which is at nine and a half. You said the first team that gets 10-11 wins obviously has the better shot at the Super Bowl. They're three to one to win the division, 13 to one to win the conference, but you gotta get over this nine and a half if you want to even be in those conversations.


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[Assistant] I am always fading the bills in 2023 because they have burned me too many times. Brinson is high on them. He takes credit for moving the line.


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[Assistant] Uh, on their season win totals, but that's neither here nor there. Adam Beasley, thank you so much for joining us today. Stay tuned for 31 more versions of all 32 with our daily drops in your podcast feed and on YouTube. Make sure you join us Thursday for more off season coverage.


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[Assistant] Half the fun is seeing when these games are gonna happen, where on the schedule, who's playing on Christmas, who's playing on Thanksgiving.


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[Assistant] It's just non-stop nuggets that leak out all week. I love the leaks. I love every kind of leak except maybe like when puppies leak and you have to like clean it up. I don't love those leaks. But scheduling leaks?


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[Assistant] Uh, Brits, you sound like a guy who lost big, uh, betting on the Packers in week 18 last year.


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[Assistant] I mean, whatever the lines of going with eight and two in their final ten games, I'll say six and a half, just cause I don't think you'll be over to touch it. I would guess seven.


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[Assistant] I would just like, for the record, I use the wins over Wilson formula to come up with that. Ryan Wilson logic wins the day.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes' career in week one, he is 5-0. He's never lost. He is averaging 317 pass yards per game. So over 300. He has totaled 19 touchdowns and zero turnovers. So he has pretty much been an unstoppable machine in week one.


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[Assistant] Uh, well I'll say the Bengals have struggled in openers.


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[Assistant] The last couple, obviously Cleveland has, because they've only won one opener since 2004. Uh, so both these teams, the Bengals have struggled against the Browns over the past few years, so I don't think this would be


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[Assistant] Uh, huge number, but I do think the bangles would be favorite. If it was in Cincinnati, I'd probably say like four or five, but I'm going to say two because it's in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] I'm just gonna toss it out there, Joe Burrow is never one in Cleveland, he's 0-2, and he is 1-4 all time against the Browns.


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[Assistant] You know, I feel like this is a tough one because we don't know who the 49ers quarterback is going to be. We don't know if Brock Ferdy is going to be ready. We don't know if Sam Darnold is going to be out there. We don't know if Trey Lance is going to.


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[Assistant] That's why I asked her total, but then I felt, Oh, I was like, I'm up to, I got to give, I'm just getting the F out of here for.


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[Assistant] Let's not forget, Squares only scored 10 points in their opener last year.


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[Assistant] I would say Cowboys favorite by two.


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[Assistant] One quick stat out there, and that is the fact that Dak Prescott has won ten games in a row against the Giants. He eats this team alive. I will pound the Cowboys all day in this game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, the Eagles want the friends from the Super Bowl, like you said. Obviously the Andy Reid factor.


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[Assistant] Uh, beating his old team. Just keep beating them down. Keep beating them down. I already took a Super Bowl from you. I don't think the Eagles have ever beaten Andy Reed's Chiefs. So he just wants to keep, he never wants to lose that team just so he can laugh at Jeffrey Lurie, uh, whenever they run into each other. So I'm sure he does like that.


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[Assistant] It is interesting that this game wasn't put in week one. I feel like the NFL's changed their philosophy about the kickoff game because they usually put, hey, let's make this game as huge as possible. And we're talking, they put the bills in the game against the Rams.


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[Assistant] Uh, last season, two years ago, they put the Cowboys in the game. America's team, the Cowboys are automatic TV draw. You are, you want TV numbers when you put the Cowboys in the game against Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] Uh, which is what they did two years ago, but now it's like they were thinking, you know what, we don't need to waste Eagle's Chiefs or Bangle's Chiefs or Bill's Chiefs.


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[Assistant] In this week one slot, it's automatic viewership. No matter who we have there, it's going to get 30 million viewers. So let's just throw in the lions. Everybody's going to watch cause of Patrick Mahomes and then we can put those bigger games with Buffalo, Cincinnati and Philadelphia later on the schedule. And this one is, uh, November 20th, which


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[Assistant] Uh, and I'll throw in a fun fact. This is the ninth time that there's been a Super Bowl rematch the following season from the prior season. And the team that won the Super Bowl is six and two when there is a rematch the following season.


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[Assistant] It might mean more to Mike McCarthy as far as revenge goes because I feel like Aaron Rodgers kind of ran him out of Green Bay. So if you're Mike McCarthy, you know, you're not going to have many more opportunities to face Aaron Rodgers and you'd like to beat him at some point.


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[Assistant] Uh, so yeaah, I mean, this is definitely revenge angle. I like that these two guys, Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy get to face each other. So this is definitely, I'm glad it's on your list, Brinton. I would have been let down if it wasn't.


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[Assistant] You know, the Bengals already beat them in an AFC title game, so that doesn't sting as much. And then obviously there's the Orlando Brown factor, but man, Tyree Kill was there for a while. He, I think he really wants to crush the Chiefs. I think he wants to have 400 receiving yards in one game and score seven touchdowns against the Chiefs. So I would put Tyree Kill, uh, as the bigger revenge angle there. Agreed.


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[Assistant] Well, you mentioned the holidays. What about the 49ers, Brenton? Maybe they want revenge on ol' Roger Goodell and the schedule makers because they're playing on Thanksgiving and Christmas. How do you feel about that, Katie? The double holiday whammy? Do you really want to play that too? I mean, one holiday is nice, but two feels maybe overkill?


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[Assistant] I am just gonna, I'm not even gonna comment on that cause I agree with it, but I'm gonna throw in, uh, one more revenge game, Frank Reich versus the Colts. Cause the Panthers play the Colts and I bet he wants to destroy them.


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[Assistant] What, you don't have to defer to me. I think the big question here is, will the Eagles fall off? Will Billy's Eagles fall off having, uh, really that tough schedule?


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[Assistant] You'll say it's not overly accurate because teams change from year to year, but when you look at the good teams on Philly's schedule,


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[Assistant] Eight of their final nine games are against teams that made the playoffs last season.


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[Assistant] Starting in week 9, they play the Cowboys. They play the Chiefs. They play the Bills. They play the 49ers. They play the Cowboys again. They play the Seahawks. They play the Giants. All those games are in a row. I mean, that is brutal. And you would think that all of those teams are probably going to be good this year. I don't think the Chiefs are gonna fall off. I don't think the Cowboys are gonna fall off.


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[Assistant] Maybe the Giants take an easy step back, but it probably won't be too big and the bills are the bills. So I mean, it is just a brutal schedule, which you know, but the Eagles have room to fall back. If they were to win three fewer games than they did last year, there's still 11 and six. There's still a playoff team.


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[Assistant] So there, there's room for them to fall back, but man, that, that is a brutal schedule.


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[Assistant] No one knew what was going on at quarterback. Now they have Derek Carr, so it feels like they can be a lot better. And you just look at their schedule and it's just like...


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[Assistant] They can beat almost every team on this. I mean, I'm trying to figure out who the best team on their schedule is. The Vikings? Jacksonville?


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[Assistant] Maybe the Packers with Jordan Love? I don't know. They don't have to play the Chiefs. They don't have to play the Cowboys. They don't have to play the Eagles. They don't have to play the Bengals. Like, they don't play...


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[Assistant] They avoided all the good teams, so it just feels like the Saints could be a sneaky good team this year.


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[Assistant] Uh, well I'll say the team that has traveled the fewest miles over the past nine years has averaged 9.6 wins per season. Uh, so it's been one of those things where you're almost a lock to get to 10 wins.


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[Assistant] So you can do with that information whatever you want. And the Steelers were the team that traveled the fewest miles last year. And, you know, most people I'm sure were thinking they wouldn't get anywhere near that nine and a half point average and they made it to nine and eight.


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[Assistant] So maybe the Seahawks are a team that could regress, but for most of the part, you know, most of these teams are middle of the road where the travel is mostly equal.


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[Assistant] So the only time you really see an impact is at the very higher end and very lower end. But the fact that the team that travels the most has only averaged 6.6 wins over the past nine years. Oh man, Seahawks could be in trouble.


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[Assistant] Thursday night game, if you are traveling west, two time zones or more, uh, teams are pretty bad. I think the number is...


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[Assistant] Uh, they are 3 and 12 and like 1 and 14 against the spread.


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[Assistant] Uh, since 2006 when Thursday Night Football started.


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[Assistant] And the NFL generally, I haven't even looked at the Thursday football schedule really, but the NFL has done their best to try to avoid this.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the only one I saw off the top of my head was Giants at 49ers, but that won't qualify because that's week 3, and the Giants are playing the Cardinals in week 2, and they're staying in Arizona, so that wouldn't fit the bill.


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[Assistant] Other than that, I don't see a team that travels more than one time zone west. Saints Rams, there you go, week 16. That's the game to watch now.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna turn this into a family story real quick. My brother turns 40 this year. His birthday and his wife turns 40 this year and both of them have their birthdays during football season.


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[Assistant] And their thought was, we'll go to a Bengals road game, uh, that's close to our birthdays.


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[Assistant] So it turns out, but they're only gonna pick one. I don't know which one they're gonna pick, but we'll find out. Long story short, her birthday is October 29th, which is the day they are playing in San Francisco.


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[Assistant] Against the 49ers, Katie, your 49ers better not ruin my sister-in-law's 40th birthday. Uh, and then his birthday is December, his birthday is December 3rd at the Bengals play the next night, Monday Night Football against Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] So if you're them and you're only going to one of those games, what do you pick? At San Francisco or at Jacksonville? Florida in December or just West Coast?


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[Assistant] So I am not moving back to San Francisco, but answer the question. I will say the Chiefs in week 17 because I want the Bengals to beat the Chiefs. I love when they beat the Chiefs. There's no better feeling than watching them beat the Chiefs. 49ers and then Jacksonville. Those are my top three.


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[Assistant] I think Jacksonville has eight home games, cause one of the one in games is, uh, that are the rogue team, quote unquote.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, you mentioned that the Jets, uh, are the opposite of Jacksonville. They get to play 10 games in their home stadium, uh, because they're playing the Giants this year, and they are just the second team in the past 90 years to play 10 home games in their, or 10 games in their home stadium, uh, in a season. So, it's the opposite of Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome back to our All 32 series for the Pick 6 podcast. Katie Mox and Will Brinson here. This is the series where


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[Assistant] We catch up with insiders to give you the need to know information on every NFL team today. We are diving into the New England Patriots with Pixix, Super Friends, CBS Sports, NFL writer, and Patriots insider Tyler Sullivan. Sully, thank you for joining us and giving your time. How are we doing today?


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[Assistant] Maybe I have a misunderstanding of what a super friend is, because I thought there was Will Brinson, and then the cast around you was the super friends, which I would assume includes Sully.


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[Assistant] What are the early impressions, Sully, of Mac Jones, uhm, at Minicamp? You know, we talked last year he didn't really have a lot of weapons and now potentially there's DeAndre Hopkins is gonna be in there. You look at some of his, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, futures, his season passing yards over under 3,250 and a half, passing touchdowns 16 and a half.


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[Assistant] Do these, what, what does it look like from what you've seen so far? Are these, are these overs or unders?


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[Assistant] So you talked about, uh, you know, we talked about Mac Jones and the passing game, but what about the ground game? Are there concerns with the depth chart with running backs right now?


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, we look at some Patriots Futures here and you talked about how tough it is in just even the first three games, who their opponents are. Win total set to seven and a half.


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[Assistant] Total wins in division, that over-under set to two and a half, and you look at that division, the jills, the bills are a juggernaut, and then the Jets now have Aaron Rodgers, like how well are the Patriots going to do in division this year?


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[Assistant] Alright, Tyler Sullivan, thank you so much. Upgraded to a super friend accidentally, but you always should have been as far as I am concerned. Uh, thank you for your insight on the Patriot. Stay tuned for more All 32 with Daily Drops in your podcast feed and on YouTube. And remember to like, comment, and subscribe on the YouTube page, and we'll see you for the next one. Thanks, Sally. Thanks, Sally.


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[Assistant] Happy Memorial Day. Welcome to the Pick 6 podcast, CBS NFL podcast, your destination for all NFL off season news. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and John Breach.


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[Assistant] And today is our Pick 6 Mailbag Show. Remember to like, comment, and subscribe on the YouTube page. For everyone listening to audio only, do the same. Make sure you download, follow, leave a five-star review, and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. Before we get into our mailbag, how about that morning buzz?


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[Assistant] I know. We'll give you a little bit of a break here and let's get into our first question. Uh, and it is from Josh Brown 33. I'm not going to say all of the names here, but we'll go ahead and say the first one. What NFL players, coaches, GMs, a lot of slashes there. Do you most liken to your cohort?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Now this is hard. Uh, Breach?


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[Assistant] I feel like I'm Mike McDaniel now. It's just who I am.


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[Assistant] Do you guys want to give, uhm, do you want to do like Ryan Wilson and Brady Quinn as well?


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[Assistant] No, I know, but I know, I mean, I think that a lot of people are, I think that LeFleur is really good looking. I mean, there's a lot of coaches, but I don't know why. Kliff's Kingsbury does not do it for me. Can you imagine if LeFleur are a...


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[Assistant] I have such a hatred for Pete Carroll as a 49ers fan.


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[Assistant] The chewing of the gum is, yeah, that's, and I'm not saying that Cliff Kingsbury is not good looking. I just don't think he's that good looking. I don't think he's uniform. I think LaFleur Breach is a lot better looking.


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[Assistant] No, not right now. Later. Okay, let's move on to the next question. I feel like we beat that one dead. Alright, what is going to ha- there's two Vikings questions. Number one, what is going to happen with Dalvin Cook? And also, any thoughts about Daniel Hunter staying in a Vikings uniform?


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[Assistant] Which by the way, that has happened to a friend of mine. She was dating somebody. I was swiping on some maps and I'm like, uhm, this your man?


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[Assistant] He told her they were dating and then he was swiping on the apps and then it was like, oh, it's old. I wasn't really on, and I'm like, no bro. Cause at that point it was when the app said how, like how long somebody was on there and it was like, they were on 24 hours ago or something. So it was like screenshot of it.


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[Assistant] You're always, you're always gonna get caught with that everybody on here.


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[Assistant] Alright, we're going to take a quick break here. We're not breaking up, we're just going on a break and we're being very upfront about it, not changing our status. You're watching Pick Six, we'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pic Six Podcast. Happy Memorial Day here with Breach and Brinchin. Brinchin. Brinson. Make sure, wow, that's a, that's a new one for me. Brinchin.


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[Assistant] Here with Breach and Brinson and, uh, we are going through your mailbag questions today. Follow us on social if you're not already at Pig Six Pod across all platforms.


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[Assistant] Okay, so now we're moving to a Seahawks question. How well will Geno Smith do this upcoming season? Man just got paid. I know you guys are both pretty high on the Seahawks this year. Breach, I believe it's you that kind of likes them maybe to win the NFC West, right? Or was that Ryan Wilson?


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[Assistant] For Gino to be the offensive player of the year, it's plus 7,500.


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[Assistant] Alright, that's fair. Moving on to another interesting question here. What are the expectations for the Chargers this year, Brinson?


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[Assistant] Is Juli Bosa gonna stay healthy? Cause I feel like every year. Probably not.


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[Assistant] Yeah, agree. But what about this nine and a half win total? It's pretty high. Uhm, you guys are both talking about divisional rounds of the playoffs over is minus 125 under plus money plus 105.


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[Assistant] Well yea, to make the playoffs, books already favoring no there, minus 115, yes. Really? Uh, minus 105, so. Really? Doesn't feel like there's a lot of, yes, yes, no. That's a weird combination.


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[Assistant] Well, but the, the under, the under is plus 105. So yea, it is a weird combination, but the books are leaning towards no, on both.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. Uh, alright, which rookie wide receiver will have the best season for each?


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[Assistant] Zay Flowers 22-1 for Offensive Rookie of the Year. Quentin Johnson in 25-1 Offensive Rookie of the Year. Now obviously we know those normally go to quarterbacks, but would you throw any money on those guys Brynson?


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[Assistant] Uh, 22 to 1 for Zay Flowers and, uh, Quentin Johnson 25 to 1.


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[Assistant] Pretty crazy. That is pretty crazy. Alright, we're taking a quick break here. You're watching pig sticks, we'll be right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pick Six Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and John Breach. And today is our Pick Six.


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[Assistant] And it's also strategy and setting everybody else up to do what you want them to do by stretching out. I like it and I appreciate the feedback.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, uh, keep it locked with us obviously all week for your NSL off-season news and remember to like, comment, and subscribe on the YouTube page. Next question!


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[Assistant] Where will Kareem Hunt land should he come to Denver? Kareem Hunt. Princeton?


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[Assistant] Alright, so I'll have to see where he lands. Maybe Denver, maybe not. Alright, can Trevor Lawrence be an MVP candidate?


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[Assistant] He's currently tied with Justin Herbert on the odds boards at plus 1500. He's 15 to 1? 15 to 1 tied with Herbie.


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[Assistant] Uhm, before we get out of here, I would like to know, uhm,


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[Assistant] Who would, uh, who would you liken to Pete Prisco? It's always a fun one.


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[Assistant] A coach, a player, a GM. Also, do we think that Brady could be more like a Bill Belichick, someone that's like always about their business, can be fun?


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[Assistant] Nooo, uh, no, I don't want him to, he doesn't look like Bill Belichick, I'm not gonna say that. Alright guys, that is going to...


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[Assistant] All right. Well, yeah, maybe, maybe as he gets older, that's going to wrap up the show today. Happy Memorial Day. Hopefully you guys are enjoying your holiday weekend. Make sure you join us next week. Oh no, tomorrow. Sorry. Can we?


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[Assistant] Yeah, your resume, your resume, you know, you, a lot of times you think you're like, yeah, like, you know, your resume is pretty good, pretty strong resume. Um, and, uh, so play callers.


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[Assistant] Play callers basically takes a look at innovation with office. I love the quote from Robert Sala in the promo tweet they sent out where he's like, it's basically 32 offensive coordinators against every defensive coordinator everywhere or 32, whatever it is, but it's like these offensive coordinators, one, they're all from like the same family.


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[Assistant] Two, they have to constantly add new wrinkles in. And then three, it's like every single one of is watching what explosive plays particularly work against certain defenses. And so these defensive coordinators are like, you might just, you might face Kyle Shanahan's offense.


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[Assistant] Everybody else is watching what he did. I mean, and then that's sort of the concept of it, right? And how this coaching tree is just, I mean, we, we did the 49ers podcast earlier. It's like, you start thinking about all the people from Kyle Shanahan's coaching tree that are like around the, it is insane.


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[Assistant] So this is basically like serial plus Avengers, like in game plus like NFL Blitz is what you're saying.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think, you know, and you mentioned that Mike Shanahan stuff was really interesting. And so now I think I've got this correct. Let me make sure, make sure before I say this, but like, I mean, obviously I know that Gary Kubiak was Mike Shanahan's offensive coordinator. Well now.


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[Assistant] One of Kyle Shanahan's co-offensive coordinators in San Francisco is Clint Kubiak, which is insane to think about how that all came full circle, but it only could occur because you have, you know, uh, Robert Sala leaves for New York and takes, uh, uh, Matt LaFleur, Mike LaFleur with him. And then.


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[Assistant] You know, Domingo Ryan leads for Houston and takes Bobby Slowick with him. Mike McDaniel has left for, you know, it's, it's, it, and yet despite all this brain drain.


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[Assistant] Two, two things remain constant. The 49ers are good. And all these guys were on the Washington coaching staff at one point in time. They all got fired.


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[Assistant] Not to, not to get short, but I do, we do take a quick break and then, uh, talk Rams because I can already hear my boss saying, uh, you're going to talk Rams. You're going to, you know, like I'm excited for this podcast and, um, how long, how long is each episode?


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[Assistant] Okay. Awesome. I'm excited. Whoa. Excited for play callers. Uh, the athletic football show. It's a great show. Anyway, Robert Mays. And of course you guys all do a great job with it. Uh, so you should subscribe to that. Check it out July 10th. See a quick break when we come back. Sean McVay innovation may need some in 2023 next. Okay, Jordan. So Sean McVay, brilliant offensive mind.


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[Assistant] I'd never had a losing season until 2022. They win the Super Bowl in 2021, so it's like, whatever. You know, you take, you take that nine out of a billion times out of a billion. You win the Super Bowl and then you have your first losing season.


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[Assistant] But now it's like the carousel for the media jobs is kind of in a weird spot. You're gonna jump to Amazon. He would still get his job, I guess, but it's like he's so competitive. I just have a hard time seeing him not wanting to come back and be like, no, no, no, that was a fluke.


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[Assistant] Cause of injuries and attrition and all that or like what has to happen for the, for the offense to work in 2023 for the Rams? Because Andrew Whitworth's departure massive and Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup being hurt and then Odell Beckham was a big boon to them too. It's like, it feels like it feels like they're a long way from being that 2021 offense.


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[Assistant] They just need to put him on the trade block in the middle of the season and have him like leak out that he wants to be traded and then nobody trades for him and then he just goes off again, which is the weirdest like plot twist last season.


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[Assistant] You could be as aggressively promotional of your own stuff as you want because there's no one who's more promiscuous with their, uh, with their, with their promotion than yours truly when I am out on like other people's stuff. So by all means, fire away.


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[Assistant] I guess the, you know, Donald to me, like I know, I know what Pete did, what he did. He did. I don't think he thinks he's slipping. That's why he left him in the top 10, but he didn't want to be like, he's number three after the season he had. Do you think that?


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[Assistant] There is enough there defensively. Like, did they retune it enough defensively? Like, Jalen Ramsey gone.


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[Assistant] With Ramsey and Cup and Stafford and, and Donald, of course, it's like, is there a, is it like, can less need in this coaching staff in the front office and the administration, like pull enough together, enough magic to make a defense that will be, you know, uh, playoff contention worthy?


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[Assistant] San Francisco is obviously a really good football team, but like it's the opposite. Like, you know what the Rams have at quarterback and as long as Matthew Stafford's healthy, like they're going to get good quarterback play. I don't care what all the haters say.


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[Assistant] You know, the Stafford Hall of Fame campaign here. But like, the 49ers have this incredible roster that is going to be really good no matter what happens even at the quarterback position, which is so rare in the NFL. I don't know, man. Eight and a half to one to win a division for a team that won the Super Bowl two years ago?


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm intrigued. Maybe it's my blinders for Matthew Stafford. I don't know. Where is it? Where is Stafford? Where are we at with Stafford in terms of?


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[Assistant] What they've done in terms of the, you know, retooling the offensive line. And yeah, I think back to the Bengals and when they let Andrew Whitworth walk in free agency and Andy Dalton went from like 2015, like sneaky MVP candidate to just like off a cliff that that scares me. But do you think they've done enough where Stafford can be healthy for a whole season?


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[Assistant] Yeah, boy. Uhm, you see, by the way, see Steve Kimes say that Draft Day was very realistic.


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[Assistant] We're going to keep this short and sweet and we are going to talk about Lamar Jackson who signed a five year deal. Uh, now even if it's the biggest, Oh, it looks like $260 million per Justina Anderson of CBS sports five years, 260 million is breach just put in Slack. That is a