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[Assistant] Where's he go? Yeah, of course he's going to be the chief. So he's going to revitalize his career on a one year deal and be awesome and then go someplace else, get overpaid and not be as good. Like that is the car wash. That is the Kansas city chiefs and the magic.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, that's, this was just kind of a formality at this point. And the thing is with Jimmy Garoppolo, you gotta remember, he suspended for the first two games of the season. So, you know, he was somebody that we were both, that we were looking at up here in New England to say, okay, could he be the stopgap guy if you draft the quarterback at number three?


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[Assistant] Not only from a New England standpoint, but if you're any of these teams trying to bring in a veteran quarterback to pair with your rookie quarterback.


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[Assistant] He doesn't really make a lot of sense because you would have to then get another quarterback or use your rookie quarterback out of the gate. So not only is his spot somewhere in the NFL a little bit more skewed because of that suspension, you also have a lot of backups that already signed. So he's in a, he's in a tough spot in particular.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that that's a great point. I also think that this would be a sneaky, good target for the Chicago Bears to give to Caleb Williams. Another security blanket, quick, can get open in short spaces. I think that that's ideal for a rookie quarterback. I think Chicago would be wise to go after him.


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[Assistant] Look at that, wow, the combination you didn't expect. By the way, Breech, I wouldn't worry about it too much because I'm pretty sure Matt Judon is like 0 for 70,000 on his Twitter recruiting predictions. I mean, you know, I love him, he's a great player, but the dude stinks at recruiting because I don't think he's brought a single player to the New England Patriots unless I'm missing somebody.


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[Assistant] He's tweeted at so many players and tried so hard. Bless his heart. He's tried really hard.


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[Assistant] If you're a wide receiver, why in the world would you want to go to the New England Patriots right now? It's Jacoby Brissette and like the ghost of Julian Elmick. Cause that's the next best pastor that you could possibly think of. I just, I don't know why any of these wide receivers. I mean, we're just talking about Mike Williams.


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[Assistant] Why does, why would that dude want to come here? You know, to me, unless you think that one of these rookies are phenomenal or your market is so bad that no other team wants you, that's the only reason why I would want to go to the New England Patriots because right now their quarterback situation is absolutely awful.


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[Assistant] And under that logic, like, okay, they would trade the number three overall pick for T Higgins, just draft Marvin Harrison Jr. Like, why give up the asset and then have to pay a dude? Just get Marvin Harrison Jr.


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[Assistant] I'm going to annex Foxboro from New England and just put them in their own separate category.


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[Assistant] Well, especially for a team that has just had such a talent drain. I mean, the number one thing you need to do is set up Bryce Young for success. And this is a receiver that has shown he can be a possession guy. He has, I think, a pretty extensive routery. He can do a lot of things and help this kid out.


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[Assistant] And if, if, you know, the teammate stuff, you know, whatever you want, you know, you can throw that to the side for now. They need talent and he is a talented player that they got basically for nothing. I mean, if Breach, I think you're in the same boat as me. We're just talking about.


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[Assistant] Our wide receivers, like if you lose T Higgins and you know that you could, I mean, it's in the division. So a little bit different, but like if you could get a receiver of.


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[Assistant] The Auntie Johnson's caliber for that price, that's crazy. Like I think if you're the Patriots, you should have been on that. If you're the Bears, you should have been in on that. If you're any of the chiefs, that is a low number that you could have at least gone in on that. I'm surprised that there wasn't more of a bidding war to put that price up that the Carolinas were able to get that deal done.


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[Assistant] No, I was just gonna say that, you know, the number one thing for the Carolina Panthers, they're not gonna, they're still not gonna be good next season. The number one thing is to show that Bryce Young is at least the guy that you can build around.


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[Assistant] And you're doing the proper things over these last couple of days. Brian Byrne's not withstanding from an offensive standpoint. You got him a wide receiver as you noted and you're fixing the offensive line. If he shows any signs of life, it's a successful season. I don't care what the record.


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[Assistant] He gets a little too excited, blows out his Achilles and out of everything cascaded from there. I, I, like you're saying, I think this, this is just insurance until he's fully ready to go because at Achilles in the last game of the year in the Superbowl, that's not the quickest turnaround time to be ready for camp week one, first month of the season. Who knows?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're putting a lot of blind faith in Derrick Henry just plowing over whoever it is no matter what.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you know, you go from, if you're Aaron Rodgers, you know, you're looking at an offensive line last year. I know that the quarterback position was just, was god awful, but the offensive line certainly didn't help. I think they gave up like 64 sacks, which was the third most, half the third most in the league.


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[Assistant] Your dude that's, you know, knocking, is he 40 exactly or however old he is? You know, he's an, he's an old man in NFL terms. He's coming off a blown Achilles.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you know, we talked a little bit about this when we were talking about the Jonathan Grenard signing.


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[Assistant] He always be a little bit when a defensive minded he with getting rid of playe them like a sweetheart de team. I don't know. They' all way around kind of w to me one for just like g his former team. But also


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[Assistant] Always be a little bit weary when he's more than happy to just let another one of his players go walking out the door. Or in this case, shipping him out the door.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I actually am a little concerned about the Buffalo Bills offense right now. I think that Dalton Kincaid is going to make a big jump and he's going to be that, I think, quasi number two receiver or target pass catch or whatever you want to call it.


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[Assistant] Boy, if Stefan Diggs was having trouble last year when there were jokes that he wasn't even double covered at certain points during the season and had lack of chemistry with Josh Allen and they just really struggled down the stretch.


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[Assistant] What's gonna happen now that Gabe Davis is out and then you insert Matt Collins, who I think is gonna get even less respect from the opposing secondary.


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[Assistant] I just think that this is a recipe for Stefan Diggs and that saga to add a little bit more uneasiness as we go forward because I just think all of these secondaries are going to continue to focus on him.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's essentially that they traded DeNeil Hunter for Jonathan Grinard, right? Like, I mean, one went to the Vikings, the other one went to the Texans. So I'll ask you, I'll ask you guys this. If that was a trade, who won that trade?


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[Assistant] You downgraded if you were Minnesota. I think you upgraded here if you're the Houston Texans. And the Texans I think are having a phenomenal free agency period. Phenomenal offseason so far. So this is just another feather in their cap as we go forward.


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[Assistant] I love the Jordan Poirier to Miami one year, two million bucks. I mean, talk about the you reference revenge aspect. They could use that help in the secondary. I think that's a great move for them.


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[Assistant] Well, for now, it hasn't happened, but I think he will end up being a steal, so I'm kind of cheating a little bit, but I think it's gonna be Stefan. That's fair. Because...


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[Assistant] He's a guy that I don't think is gonna warrant this huge money contract because he's passed his prime. He's in his, he's in his thirties. I think it's only gonna be a short term deal. I think he's gonna latch on.


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[Assistant] But he was serviceable for Dallas last year. He allowed like 55% completion percentage on when he was the primary defender in coverage. If he's able to land on a Super Bowl contender, insert whoever you want that to be. San Francisco, if you want to talk about the Kansas City Chiefs, Ravens, Bengals, whoever, Bills, going back to the Bills.


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[Assistant] Well like, what's a one year deal for a veteran defensive back? What is that? One for, I don't know, six, seven, eight? You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Oh, I think it was his first name. I was like, Aaron Rodgers plays Ronnie back now? Wow, the guy really can do it all.


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[Assistant] Did that sell you enough, Sully? That's good. I was just trying to find your angle of like why you actually wanted, I was trying to see if there was some NC State or something in there. No, I don't know. It's great. Good for you.


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[Assistant] I'll give you this though. We want some sort of, you know, didn't see coming type of wrinkle. It's something that we mentioned earlier about Calvin Ridley, possibly going to the Jaguars, staying with Jaguars or going to the Patriots.


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[Assistant] 4 minutes ago, as of the recording of this podcast, from the athletic, the Jaguars and Patriots remain the two favorites, but other teams have stayed involved per sources. Ridley hasn't made his decision yet, nor have the Jags or Pats been ruled out.


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[Assistant] So, maybe a mystery team, which is something JJ reported earlier this week as well.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with Washington's rookie quarterback. Whoever they pick at number two, I think is a winner here for the reason.


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[Assistant] I think that Washington is actually really setting themselves up to have success with whoever they pick, whether it's Jaden Daniels or Drake May. You bring in a guy like Cliff Kingsbury, a great offensive mind. I think Dan Quinn's a good players head coach.


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[Assistant] Uh, documentaries on Netflix seems like a low, you know, down to earth dude is not going to, you know, go in there and expect to be the starting quarterback. That's going to probably be more Sam Howell than anything else. He won't be miffed, but he will be the ideal sounding board.


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[Assistant] For any one of, any one of those players, again, Daniels or May, that they bring in to say, hey, you know, what happens? How do I prepare for a week? How do I prepare to be this franchise savior? He's going to have a unique perspective that I thought is going to go a little underrated for this signing going to Washington Marriott.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's kind of a, it compacts over the, the full, full legal tampering period because Kurt Cousins was day one, Sam Donald was day two.


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[Assistant] But this dude woke up over the 48 hours and Sam Donald is now his quarterback at the moment and he's somebody who, as we mentioned, I think we mentioned it yesterday. He was somebody that was saying, I kind of want to see what happens at quarterback before I even want to deal with my contract extension.


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[Assistant] Sam Darl throwing you the football is not going to help you get to the Hall of Fame. It's just not going to. And it's not going to help you win football games. And I know they might draft a quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I think the cause of it is from every account, it's a loaded draft with wide receivers. That's got to have an impact somewhere. So you can get them cheaper, get them younger over there. Why wouldn't you do that? No, I mean, look, it's not even


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[Assistant] We are live in Las Vegas, football 58. That handsome devil is Will Britson. That other handsome devil is John Breach. I'm Ryan Wilson.


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[Assistant] And we'll hear all week. Today, however, we're ranking our favorite storylines of Super Bowl 58, which you might have heard. Breach is a rematch of Super Bowl 54. By the way, this episode of Pig Six.


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[Assistant] And all our big game coverage is brought to you by the creamy deliciousness of Peanut M&M's. The perfect treat for those moments when you need a little added comfort.


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[Assistant] All right boys, Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, Travis Kelce, Kyle Shanahan, George Kittle. They're all back, but there are some new faces too. Brock Purdy, Brandon Iook, Christian McCaffrey, and of course,


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[Assistant] Breach's favorite artist, Taylor Swift, all making their first Super Bowl appearances. So let's get to it. Eight storylines to look ahead to this week's Super Bowl 58.


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[Assistant] Goes back to the Superbowl that the Atlanta Falcons somehow lost to the Patriots 28-3. We've talked about that to death, but that's going to be a talking point this week. Shanahan was of course the off to coordinator of that Falcons team. Been four years ago when these teams met, the Chiefs and the old 49ers.


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[Assistant] Shanahan and the 49ers lost that game. Jimmy G was of course the quarterback. So I'll ask you for instance, and then you can sort of expound as it relates to your big storyline. Is this the year that Kyle Shanahan finally gets over the hump?


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[Assistant] Uh, unfortunately for Kyle Shanahan, in each of the previous three instances, the head coach to win the first matchup also won the second matchup. There's been a repeat winner in five of the previous seven instances of teams meeting.


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[Assistant] So uhm, that perhaps has something to do with the pressure with which, uh, Kyle Shanahan, at least we think he's probably feeling. We'll see how that plays itself out.


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[Assistant] Uh, Breach, one of your storylines was, uh, with the win, does Andy Reid become a top five coach or even a top three coach all time? Uh, make your, make your point on what you're trying to get to with that.


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[Assistant] Well, as I was thinking about it, I'm a little older than you boys. Uh, so Tom Landry, Chuck Knoll, Jimmy Johnson.


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[Assistant] There are a lot of names that you have to sort of give some serious consideration to. My favorite coach growing up, Breach, Forest Gregg, who coached your dad, he's not in the conversation, but I did like him. He did a lot with those Bengals teams. But I think we got to go through.


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[Assistant] And give it, you have to bring Prisco on and get his thoughts because he was alive and kicking with those guys for coaching.


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[Assistant] So, I get it. Like, you're not gonna get a lot of pushback from me. What Andy Reid's done has been nothing short of amazing. I mean, he got fired and ran out of town in Philadelphia for a reason. Uh, so, for him to sort of...


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[Assistant] Rediscover himself and you can say Patrick Mahomes did it, but that team with Alex Smith was a really good football team as well.


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[Assistant] So, I get it. Like, you're not gonna get much pushback from me on that one.


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[Assistant] Alright, this sort of piggybacks off of that, and...


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[Assistant] Chief's dynasty. Let's start here. For instance, if they don't win.


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[Assistant] Chief's Dynasty, because I think the answer is if they do win, we know what it is. So Chief's Dynasty, if they don't win, if they do win, had the dynasty already started. Let's go with that.


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[Assistant] How the Patriots, uh, the Chiefs can flip a switch offensively and look, they only scored 17 points against the Ravens, none in the second half, but they made some plays and plays they hadn't made earlier. The defense is the difference and the point is that they're winning in different ways, which makes me feel they're a little more versatile in terms of their chasing of a dynasty. Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid help, but I think


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[Assistant] Hold on, hold on. Let me just finish the thought about Seattle because there was friction between like Russ and Richard Sherman, between the offense, the defense, between Marshawn and not getting the ball in the handoff.


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[Assistant] Super Bowl loss to the Patriots. You don't hear any such friction about this Patriots team and I think that helps too.


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[Assistant] All right. Yeah, no kidding. Let's take a quick break and when we come back, we'll answer a very important question. How close is Patrick Mahomes to catching Tom Brady?


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[Assistant] Alright boys, with another Super Bowl win, this is my story line.


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[Assistant] What do we put the chances that Patrick Mahone eventually breaks Tom Brady's record of seven Lombardy's and just a little backstory here. So of all appearances in the five year span, uhm, the Chiefs and the Patriots both have four.


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[Assistant] Most of the world starts by our quarterback all the time. Tom Brady is at 10, no surprise there. Patrick Mahomes is at 4. And the most of the world starts by QB before age 30.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes is leading the pack already at four. Tom Brady only had three. Big Ben, Troy Aikman, Elway and Greasy. Bob, that is, also had three. So, Rachael, come to you. You're the resident pick six historian. If he gets to four, Patrick Mahomes on Sunday.


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[Assistant] What are the chances, I guess he has to play till he's in his forties, but what are the chances he sniffs, gets close to that seven that Tom Brady finished up with?


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, this is a tall task and it's fun to sort of overreact and say Patrick Holmes is going to be the guy to do it, but he has to play until his forties unless they're just going to win out and he's going to retire at age 35. And it's.


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[Assistant] People want to do other things with life unless you're Tom Brady. So Tom Brady came to the decision to do other things when he was in his mid forties. So I think it feels like a long shot. I think that the chief dynasty stock and Andy Reid, top five, top three coaches, much more attainable. Um, but let's talk about the truly important stuff.


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[Assistant] And, and Brenton, I'll let you go first. I don't know which one of you is a bigger Swifty, nor do I care, but Taylor Swift is going to be a talking point this week. So why don't you take this conversation in whatever direction you want it to go in, other than any mention of her being a, a Psyop.


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[Assistant] Alright, enough talk about waffles and pancakes. It's time for a segment where we're going to take a brief detour from Las Vegas to tight end you.


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[Assistant] George Kittle for the 49ers, Travis Kelce for the Chiefs. They're some of the best tight ends in the league and we're gonna tell you our favorite profits involving the two for the Sewer Bowl tight end showdown. It's tight end TD time.


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[Assistant] Will Branson, what is your favorite cut-in prop for Suitable 58?


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[Assistant] Alright, I'm gonna keep it simple. You guys should talk about Taylor Swift and


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[Assistant] How she comes to her boyfriend play. Maybe there's going to be an engagement after the game at midfield on one knee. Should the Chiefs win? We'll find out together. I'm going to go anytime.


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[Assistant] No, I'm gonna go Travis Kelce, MVP. Like he's, forget that, he's gonna score more than one touchdown. He may, he'll catch one, he may run one, maybe he throws one, maybe he kicks an extra point, Breach we'll see, but I'm gonna go Travis Kelce, MVP, Breach. When's the last time an MVP was a tight end?


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[Assistant] Alright boys, this segment is brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook. Make every moment more. Alright, we're gonna get back to these storylines.


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[Assistant] This one seems like one that, uh, it's gonna be a pretty important one that we'll hear a lot about. I know Brent has been on this train. He was on this train last week.


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[Assistant] For instance, if you block him, you beat him, and of course we're talking about how good


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[Assistant] All the skill position players they have for the 49ers, the offensive line, starting with Trent Williams is really good, but this Chiefs defense is probably going to be one of the best defenses they've faced all year.


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[Assistant] Brogparty was in the MVP conversation for quite a while, as was Christian McCaffrey.


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[Assistant] But does anyone disagree that a healthy, healthy Devo Samuel is the most important person on that offense?


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[Assistant] That's my only concern. They, because I think Kyle Shanahan said this actually after the Lions game, like they had a lot of things heavily


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[Assistant] Alright boys, six down, two to go. Tight end talk. We sort of touched on it when we mentioned the tight end prop bets we liked. Uh, Brinson, let's start here. Who's the best tight end on the field?


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[Assistant] Yeah, she makes, she makes jackets and hoodies and whatever else you want custom made. All right. Talk about the, uh,


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[Assistant] Short of connection with Kelsey Mahomes, Breach, that does tell us nicely into our final storyline. And, uh, Breach, I'll ask you first. Do you trust Brock Purdy?


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[Assistant] Because is there any way he can outpatch my home, patch my homes on the biggest stage, even though Brock Purdy has been up to every test so far?


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[Assistant] I'm glad you mentioned that because, well, that's what I was going to say. That's what's going to follow up with, for instance, point. Does anyone think that Jimmy Garoppolo is a better quarterback than Brock Bertie? No.


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[Assistant] At any point in, in Jimmy G's journey, like even when he was just pretty well running that Shannon offense, I feel like I was actually thinking about this when you guys were talking.


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[Assistant] If you're Kyle Shanahan and you could have Brock Curtis start this game, or you could trade for Patrick Mahomes, but only have two weeks to prepare with Patrick Mahomes, is he taking it? I, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Bragg Party runs that offense as efficiently as we've seen anyone run it since.


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[Assistant] I don't know when, like, who's the last quarterback that Kelsie Anahans had that ran this efficiently?


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[Assistant] Matt Ryan's the answer. So I think, Breach, are you taking Patrick Mahomes two weeks notice?


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[Assistant] Yeah, throw Jake Brownie's name in there too, cause I'm sure he was the guy next on your list. Alright boys, that is it.


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[Assistant] We are done for the Storyline show here on Sunday night, but we will be back.


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[Assistant] All week in Las Vegas or Super Bowl 58. Tomorrow we're going to give you our impressions from opening night. We will be there, live and in person, along with Yersena Anderson and of course, the other super friend, uh, Katie Mox. So look for that.


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[Assistant] This is the Mixix Podcast and this is the Divisional Round Recap Saturday edition. That's Will Brinson. That's John Breach. Fresh back from robbing someone wearing all black. I'm Ryan Wilson. And remember, give us a thumbs up if you're watching us on the old YouTubes at NFL on CBS and of course subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Starting in San Francisco where things got spicy. Came into the week, the 49ers were the number one seed, had the week off.


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[Assistant] For about 53 minutes, look like the old Packers are headed to the NFC title game, but a rookie kicker breach honked a 41 yard field goal late in the fourth quarter. Brock Purdy finally showed up.


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[Assistant] San Francisco eked out the win. Producer Harry alerted us to this fun fact that I mentioned on the broadcast. Kyle Shanahan teams entering the week, uh, entering the fourth quarter, excuse me, were 0 and 31 with trailing by five or plus points. That lasts for four seconds. They were down seven. Jake Moody hit the two yarder with about four seconds to go into the fourth quarter. To get inside that number didn't matter. 49ers eked out the victory. For instance,


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[Assistant] So I don't know, like I get what you're saying, I don't disagree, the hero ball in the last play can't happen. Uh, the overthrow and the check down, that was just unlucky. That's not, I don't know if I blame Matt LaFleur so much, it's just Jordan Love having some, some brain farts with accuracy on the first interception, then with decision making on the second one. And also,


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[Assistant] Look, Aaron Jones ripped off that 50 plus yard run where they're at the minus 10 yard line, and they were in position to put the game away, and then the rookie kicker, rookie kickered it up. I would argue that for


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[Assistant] I'll say for all 53 minutes, I'll give him 53 minutes. Matt Flora coached the pants off of Kyle Shanahan.


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[Assistant] No, you're not. No, you know, I don't want to push back, but he, he was 21 touchdowns, 21 touchdowns, one interception the last eight weeks of the season. So you got a lot of great Jordan love today. You talked about the weather, Drake Greenlawn, that defense balled out late and has breached.


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[Assistant] Purdy was bad too. Purdy wasn't great. Here's the difference. He played better in the fourth quarter than he played.


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[Assistant] Jordan Love, but to Breach's point, you can't throw the hero ball and you can't have the misses on relatively easy throws. And then you throw in the kicker and then, you know, not running the ball as much as Breach wanted. Here you are. So I get it. I'm not going to push back on that. And I would imagine Packers fans are incredibly disappointed, but they should also be incredibly optimistic. But I think let's start here. So Brinson, are you?


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[Assistant] If you're a 49ers fan, if you're Katie Mox, do you feel great about how the game ended? Because it ended certainly in a high note because there was a lot of lows up until the final five minutes or so.


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[Assistant] Rich, you mentioned this in our little group chat about the, uh, half time. The middle four minutes is, as they talked about it on the telecast.


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[Assistant] Before you answer that question though about how angry that made you since you're an angry little man there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's an elf reference. Uh, is Devo statement because I, our buddy Joe Musso texted me this because I got into it with him one weekend in Stanford about how


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[Assistant] But the other thing to, to, to back you up here, uh, when, when he was out, they lost the football games. I mean, that three game stretch where they couldn't do anything right.


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[Assistant] No, shoulder for a second. That's what ruled him out though.


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[Assistant] Their secondary got torched and they won. Their first trip to the red zone was the very last touchdown drive and they won. So on and on it goes. What does that say?


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, but would you rather face Brock Pernin or Jordan Love?


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[Assistant] And by the way, the Packers defense has been absolutely bawling out. Like the last season. So yeah, Joe Berry was the butt of a lot of jokes and it turns out, uh, he was like,


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[Assistant] Uh, that's a good question. I'll take it a step further. And Rick Spiel and I talked about this in the podcast, Draft Podcast this week. We ranked all the quarterbacks from the 2020 class. Breach, close your ears. We both took Jordan Love first over Joe Burrow, Justin Ebert, Tua, and Jalen.


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[Assistant] Now, we take it, over the next five years was a question that producer Devo put to us. And the other thing you have to consider, and Joe Burrow was number two for Rick, somehow number three for me because I still owe.


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[Assistant] Uh, some money to Justin harbour for help. Hold on a second. Uh, but I want to say this quickly.


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[Assistant] The reason I had jail borough three was you also include the injury history. That's my concern. But, um.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I, I, I freely admit that we might, might've been victims of the moment, but it was, it was a fun little conversation. But, uh, to your point, the Packers roster is awesome. Those guys are so good and Brian Goodkin has not gotten a lot of credit because people were too busy crushing them when he traded up for short love and kept drafting tight ends.


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[Assistant] The tight ends and the wide receivers on Saturday night blocked their asses off. They were killing Joe Bosa, Joey Bosa. They were getting after Nick Bosa. They're getting after Chase Young. Uh, they were setting the edge in the run game and Aaron Jones, as producer Harry notes in the rundown, um, one of the best players in the field.


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[Assistant] I, I, I may have been a victim of the moment as I admit it. I'm just saying. Jordan Les Fawn.


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[Assistant] No one disagrees. I was a, I was a freshman. I know exactly where it was when Nevermind came out. Jesus. Yeah. 91, 92. Had hair and everything, Breach. Uh, Breach, to answer producer Harry's question, are the Packers the most promising team in the NFC? Cause we have the Lions sitting there, the 49ers, the team that just beat them, who's in pretty good shape. Uh, where are you going?


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[Assistant] Is he going to fix the offense? The defense was fine in Atlanta. Is he going to fix the offense?


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[Assistant] For Bill O'Brien, pretty easy. He's a hundred out of a hundred.


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[Assistant] Like I said, we were just victims of the moment and Jordan loves a fun story. Joe Burrow, if he's healthy all the time, he's unquestionable.


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[Assistant] All right, one thing before we go to take a break here because producer Harry is not happy that I derailed the conversation. Uh, the 49ers had one explosive play before the half that was that pass to George Kittle. They had, they led the league in explosive plays. They had two, uh, on the second half's drive.


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[Assistant] Uh, early in the second half of the end of the touchdown. And then, uhm, that was it, I believe. So, Breach, I'll ask you. 30 seconds, then Princeton, you can follow up.


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[Assistant] How concerned are you about the offense of no-devo in terms of the explosive play meter?


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[Assistant] Either, either defense, Aaron Glenn or Todd Boles start down to pressure. And they did a pretty good job with pressure. The 49ers offensive line.


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[Assistant] Rich, let me ask you this though, I get all that, I don't disagree with it at all, but here's the only thing I was saying, and I mentioned this before on the podcast, because, uh, this is where, you know,


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[Assistant] He also was forced to cut Daniel Carlson, uh, in year one and Daniel Carlson, it turns out was really good. Zimmer wasn't crazy about kickers that miss a lot of kicks. Um, he had very little patience for people that didn't play defense, I think.


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[Assistant] Are you all concerned about whiffing on a guy who could end up being a perennial pro-bola?


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[Assistant] All right, Breach, I'm going to start with you because you have been driving the train in addition to the Joe Burrow train.


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[Assistant] Uh, Lamar Jackson can't win the big games in January. You're sort of driving. I don't think you care. You just like to bring up the numbers. He was one in three in the playoffs, four touchdowns, seven turnovers in his playoff career.


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[Assistant] Coming into this game, he had a lot to prove and I felt like, uh, he answered every question and then he circled back, took the test again and aced it. Two touchdowns passing, two touchdowns rushing. Uh, he took over the game. Any concerns about Joe, uh, Joe Burrow? Any concerns about Lamar Jackson being that dude?


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[Assistant] Hold on, let me ask you this, let me ask you this. Hold on, let me ask, let me ask Brenton this question because, Brenton, you are not wrong. They were, there were some real concerns at halftime. It was 10 to 10. I was like, oh, the, uh, the Texas might mess around and, and hang into this game. And then the second half came and they blew the doors out. Lamar was not good in the first half. 75% of the time.


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[Assistant] I don't disagree with that part and I think, Breach, you would agree that he has the piano off his back in terms of being legit.


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[Assistant] He was fine, but in terms of the Texans and Breach pointed this out in our little chat too at halftime, uh, Houston Blitz Lamar 72% of the time in the first half, those three sacks happen there from week 13 to week 18. I looked this up defenses Blitz Lamar at a 29% clip primarily because you don't want to get run on.


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[Assistant] And Breach also, you noted this, why are we not spying in the first 15 minutes? Why are we not spying Lamar? And finally got Christian Harris out there. Christian Harris was playing out of his mind. Uh, so they figured that part out. I just think it was a matter of one team being better than another team and that Raven's defense is legit and.


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[Assistant] Before we talk about the Texans, we can continue to talk about the Ravens a little more, because they did a lot of things well.


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[Assistant] I don't, Breach, I don't blame any one of the Texans. I think that the biggest issue for me, if you're asking why the Texans lost, it starts with number one, the ratings are really good. Number two, it's incredibly tough to play at MTNT, whatever it's called, the bank stadium. And number three, they had 11 penalties.


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[Assistant] So that, when you're behind the sticks, you don't really have a chance. And I, I thought CJ Stroud, you know, we talked about Josh Allen's game against the Texans a few years ago when he was a young quarterback and the playoffs and him acting crazy. And I always go back to Big Ben in 2004 when he won 15 straight and he looked lost in the playoffs. CJ didn't look lost in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] No Tankdale, who's been out since week 15 or whatever, 13, 14. No Noah Brown, he's an IR. So basically all the Bravens had to do was stop Nico Collins. Dalton Schultz had another drop early in the game. He had one last week and almost dropped a touchdown pass last week.


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[Assistant] Came back and made some big catches later on, but if those are your two go-to guys, then Robert Woods.


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[Assistant] We can tell, we talked a little bit about, about how CJ Stroud was slowed because he's, I think he's a slam dunk rookie of the year. We'll see who has a.


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[Assistant] I'm going to talk about why the Ravens were able to stop.


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[Assistant] The third best quarterback in the NFL CJ Straub. We talk about the penalties, talk about the injuries, something else I want to know real quick and then you guys can chime in and then we'll take a break after this. Who are the, who are the quarterbacks ahead of the Straub? No run game for the Texans.


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[Assistant] So they came into this game after 3.7 yards, uh, per carry, which wasn't great over the last month and a half of the season. But this is something that, uh, Texas fans were noting, uh, with, with great concern. Uhm, Devin Singletary, who did the bulk of the carrying for this team,


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[Assistant] Uh, he had averaged until he ran for eight yards early in the third quarter. He was averaging something like 0.08 yards per carry.


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[Assistant] So that, in addition to all the other things that were not going right, starting with the false star penalties, I think is what doomed CJ Stroud. Do you guys have any other explanation that might be CJ Stroud related?


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[Assistant] They ran on first down 33% of the time the last month and a half of the season. I'm not concerned about it. They were probably trying to, and here's the other thing that's, that's sort of funny. This is a breach stat and, um, breach. You can fill in the qualifiers cause you may know it. I had to go look it up.


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[Assistant] The Ravens were giving up five yards per carry since week 13. They were one of the worst teams, yards per carry wise, defensively. Now, some of that is the week 18 matchup reach, as you're going to say, against the Steelers where the Steelers were playing for something.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Dolphins were in that mix. They, they ran up on them, uh, the week before San Francisco was the week before that where they were getting chunks, but then they got the doors blown off, uh, according to what I understood. And then the Rams in week 14. So all those teams can run the ball really well.


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[Assistant] And maybe slow hook was trying to take some of the pressure off of CJ, not knowing that they didn't, they didn't have the, um, the pat, the receivers there because of injury.


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[Assistant] Hey Breach, can I ask you a question? Who called the better game, Bobby Sloak or Kyle Shanahan?


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[Assistant] We're going to take a break when I come back. We'll find out.


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[Assistant] Who the Texans, what the Texas future looks like in the AFC right after this.


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[Assistant] All right, Brenton, do you feel better about the Texans, the AFC or the Packers and the NFC? Cause you seem pretty bullish on Green Bay. People were asking for you to answer the question.


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[Assistant] Well, in 12 minutes I will give my answer as we sign off, so. Ooh, that's a teaser.


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[Assistant] That was an easy answer, Breach. Do you agree with that? I mean, I would argue the divisions are a little different.


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[Assistant] Uh, Breach, did you answer the question? Texans, Packers?


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I, I, well alright, let's take it a step further. Who wins the most division titles over the next five years?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you said you're higher on the Packers. Cause the conference is easier. All right.


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[Assistant] We'll save that conversation for, uh, an upcoming podcast for April 2nd, right? April 2nd now.


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[Assistant] I said at 12 minutes and that was 4 minutes ago. We gotta do Breach VP first. Brenton, think about your Brenton VP.


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[Assistant] Nobody, the dance, uh, if you haven't seen it, go to Twitter at the Ravens account. They have John Harbaugh dancing after the game. It's truly awesome. I'm gonna go.


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[Assistant] We haven't talked a lot about the 49ers defense breach mentioned that they, they struggled at times to, uh, to keep.


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[Assistant] The Packers from being red hot the first 45 minutes or so, but I'm going to go with Dre Greenlaw. Two interceptions. The biggest interception coming at the very end of the game on the hero ball throw from Jordan Love.


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[Assistant] And, uh, the only thing that caused me to almost not vote for him was that he refused to go down at the end of the game. I don't know if he wanted to score or if he just wanted to run the clock out by running in circles, but that was a wild scene. Luckily he didn't turn the ball over.


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[Assistant] Um, if it had not been him, it was going to be.


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[Assistant] The guy on special teams that recovered the fumble, the Nixon fumble, fantastic punt return. I think it was Eric Wilson.


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[Assistant] Eric Wilson, what a great special teams play. That would have been a front runner had the Packers held on, but I'm going to go with Drake Greenlaw for the two interceptions, game stealing interceptions in there.


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[Assistant] Number three. And we're going to end the show right on this because we're not going to have any.


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[Assistant] Okay. When did you get an Adderall prescription? Did it involve your true media prescription or subscription? And uh, and you know, there's a blitzkrieg of stats. I love it. Wilson. I think the thing for this game is it like,


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[Assistant] Have you ever seen anything? I've never seen anything like this in terms of what the Packers did offensively. Well, okay. First of all,


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[Assistant] We were, the old narrative of first time.


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[Assistant] Playoff quarterbacks and rookie playoff quarterbacks out the window. Jordan love first ever perfect passer rating.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. Good point. Good point. Uhm, the broadcast definitely said that it was probably a peacock.


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[Assistant] That's right, that's right. Because Aaron Jones came back in too because they were like, Oh God, are we going to lose this to the Cowboys?


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[Assistant] And the Patriots disembarked from each other, unencumbered from each other.


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[Assistant] We all agree that Belichick, Tom Brady and the Patriots are the greatest dynasty in the history of sports, right? Do we all agree with that? Definitely the history of the NFL, but probably sports. Okay. Probably sports, but definitely NFL.


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[Assistant] Before Belichick and Brady came together in New England.


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[Assistant] And after Belichick and Brady separated in New England.


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[Assistant] There's this buffer period on each side where the Packers have a franchise quarterback.


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[Assistant] They had Brett Farr before those guys showed up and now they got Jordan Love after those guys left. The Packers are, this is the single greatest run of franchise quarterbacking.


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[Assistant] In the history of professional football and it's not remotely close, Jordan Love does stuff from arm slots and the way he, like, Jordan Love is awesome.


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[Assistant] And maybe he's streaky and maybe he won't end up being a Hall of Famer, but when he plays his best football, dude, you love Jordan Love.


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[Assistant] Cause Farver Rogers are hall of famers. I'm just saying like this guy is an incredible quarterback.


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[Assistant] Well, he had, he had that streak of like four or five weeks. He started out hot.


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[Assistant] And got cold, but dude, Brian Gudegans was asked, are you, do you know if Jordan loves your quarterback next year? And he didn't have an answer.


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[Assistant] There's something really interesting about that too, though. We'll say, we'll say we've talked about Jordan love as a prospect coming to the NFL and then like how he.


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[Assistant] Cause at Utah state, he was like, you don't expect him to be the guy that runs the on.


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[Assistant] Like, to be, like, you don't expect him to run an offense like Kirk Cousins.


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[Assistant] He's, he's, he's too athletic for that. You know what I mean? Like he's, you expect him to go off script a little bit and he, he's really done, frankly, the exact same thing that Aaron Rodgers did when Aaron Rodgers started in Green Bay being the athletic guy who can, is capable of going off script if he needs to.


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[Assistant] But perfectly capable of staying within the game when the offense is perfectly called. And dude, Matt LaFleur pulled Dan Quinn's pants down in this game early on. I mean, they were moving the ball so fast and conversely somehow Joe Berry


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[Assistant] I mean, they flipped everything on its head. It felt like the Cowboys were and we'll get to this later, but.


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[Assistant] In this particular game, it felt like the Packers came in playing with house money, young, loose, confident, not worried about anything. And it felt on the other side of things that Mike McCarthy would his.


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[Assistant] To be perfectly frank, his butt cheeks were really tight and he was petrified about losing at home against Green Bay in a, in a home playoff game is the number two seed he never expected to have happen. And somehow the Cowboys were offense was so tight. Jair Alexander. Great job covering CD lamb.


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[Assistant] That ain't the Mike McCarthy straight up revenge game against the bankers, but do a breach. You're right. I mean, Wilson, you're right. The, when the Falcons and we were all there in the press box together in Atlanta, you guys remember I saved the Superbowl. Um, and excuse me, uh, Houston. I saved the Superbowl in Atlanta. We're in Houston when Kyle Shanahan's Falcons.


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[Assistant] Coughed up the lead to the Patriots. Shanahan leaves and goes to.


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[Assistant] San Francisco to take the head coaching job. And that's when the floor thought he's going to be promoted to be Dan Quinn's OC instead. No dice. Interesting angle. Wilson. I wish I, I'm actually, I'm kind of, I'm kind of like.


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[Assistant] My brain's kind of broken realizing I didn't realize that revenge angle before the game.


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[Assistant] They say, at home. At home. Against Mike McCarthy's old team. Against? With McCarthy calling the plays.


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[Assistant] Can I ask, can I ask you a question, Wilson? Yea. You as our draft, our senior draft analyst. You actually are the senior draft analyst at CBS Sports. I'm proud of you. What's your question? You have the top pick in the draft.


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[Assistant] Don't worry about what team it is, but you can have Justin Fields, the number one pick of this draft class or Jordan Love. Who do you take?


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[Assistant] The Packers did the right thing. They traded it up and got Jordan Love.


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[Assistant] I'm saying like, do you, I mean like you should like reverse old takes.


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[Assistant] If Jordan Love hadn't worked out and they cut him loose after this year.


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[Assistant] You could still argue it was the right decision because it made Aaron Rodgers win MVP twice.


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[Assistant] I think if you are, would you rather be the lions or the Packers in the industry north moving forward? I mean.


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[Assistant] No, no, I mean this is not a transition. I'm serious. Like I think that both teams are loaded.


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[Assistant] I mean, the Packers offensive players are really, really good and really, really young.


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[Assistant] I mean Jordan loves, Jordan loves ceilings higher than Jared Goff's. Of course, absolutely.


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[Assistant] Breach. Lions or Packers. Next five years.


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[Assistant] And it was game planning because like Jara that pick by Jara Alexander was outstanding.


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[Assistant] And they put it up and basically said, let's shut him down. Jake Ferguson had a huge day, three touchdowns, but I don't know. It was, it was, uh,


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[Assistant] 60 is a like you're getting your ass kicked. Can I, um, do you think that there's any chance the, this is a weird galaxy brand take, but that the Cowboys were.


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[Assistant] I'm victims of their of the eagles failure.


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[Assistant] In other words, if the Cowboys had been the five seed and we're going on the road to play Tampa Bay, they're worse on the road. They're good at home. No, I know that, but I'm saying because they're so good at home.


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[Assistant] Because the cowboy, because the Eagles completely pooped their pants and gave the Cowboys the division. And because the Cowboys is like, like your seven point favorites at home. Like it was like Mike McCarthy was like, it was almost like he was doing a really good job coaching the team.


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[Assistant] And then the Eagles melted down, the Cowboys stole the division and all of a sudden it became, well, Mike has to win this game or else he's getting fired.


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[Assistant] And if you, if you heard Jason Garrett in the pregame for lions Rams.


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[Assistant] That man is the most milquetoast human being on the planet. And he basically inferred that Mike McCarthy is fired and he's someone who's been fired unexpectedly or sort of unexpectedly in a post Jerry. Like, like.


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[Assistant] If somebody's going to know what, if somebody knows what it's like for, to be fired by Jerry Jones, it's Jason Garrett. And he seemed to imply that Mike McCarthy is.


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[Assistant] Should Mike McCarthy, what's going to happen to Mike McCarthy, Wilson?


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[Assistant] Want want. Alright. Ever since Jerry made a deal with his higher power.


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[Assistant] If I told you, Wilson, that this was the most painful podcast of your 35 years podcasting with me, that'd be enough for you to fire me.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying if Jerry Jones comes out and says after the play, after this loss, this humiliating 48 to 32.


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[Assistant] Jerry called it the most painful quote, the most painful end quote, playoff loss in his entire time owning the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Here's, here's the issue for Mike McCarthy. There's several. One, his last three losses.


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[Assistant] The last three losses in the playoffs for Mike McCarthy and whether we, we all try to be reasonable and say we should judge a coach, not by their, you know, one game, small sample playoff stuff, but that's the reality of the NFL. There's the Dax slide ref screw up.


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[Assistant] Mike McCarthy, Mike crazy hands, excuses, thinking it's the Niners the following year when he had Zeke snap the ball to Dak. Zeke gets obliterated.


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[Assistant] And then this year where this team that is the number two seed in the NFC and fully capable of winning the Superbowl gets obliterated by Jordan love and a bunch of guys that Jerry Jones literally in terms of like.


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[Assistant] Eric, Eric Jones is a Jordan love Jordan love. He knows Eric Jones, a Cowboys killer is his, uh, splits for his career. It's cowboys or joke, but


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[Assistant] Romeo Dobbs. Jerry Jones doesn't know half the guys in the Packers depth chart at wide receiver and tied in. All right. So the last three playoff.


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[Assistant] I would be, I would be, I would say that Mike McCarthy fired is minus 250 and Mike McCarthy keeping his job is three to one. That's where I'm at on this one. I think it's obvious.


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[Assistant] Parcell, Bill Parcells, at the exact same point really of his career as Belichick's at, with the difference being that


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[Assistant] To my, what I, my argument before, but I think that Dan Quinn's probably out there interview, having to say, Dan Quinn's spending a lot of his mental time thinking about the Seahawks.


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[Assistant] Mike McCarthy didn't go out there and like poop his pants. Dak was terrible and Dan Quinn was terrible.


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[Assistant] That made some bad throws. He missed jail and Tolbert wide open on what would have been an easy touchdown to the left side. Uh, lay there's a bunch of like Dak played terrible.


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[Assistant] Dean Quinn wouldn't, I mean, excuse me, uh, Mike McCarthy wouldn't go like great, but this was like, what? How do you know?


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[Assistant] No, I was saying, I was saying he didn't do anything exceptionally dumb or bad that was obvious to us.


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[Assistant] But, but, but that's my point is the reality is he is going to take the blame for this. And as breach pointed out in an off season with Harbaugh and Belichick out there, like,


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[Assistant] 15 seconds if he hasn't already, which you would have already done that he is interested if Jerry Jones wants to make a change.


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[Assistant] As in Jerry Jones is fully aware right now and before he spoke to the media tonight that if Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones reads pro football talk.


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[Assistant] And Mike Florio has been hammering his keyboard talking about how Mike McCarthy, if he lost the Packers at home, which we didn't think would happen, might be a candidate to be replaced by Bill Belichick.


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[Assistant] So if those, all those parties want that to happen, it's not that far fetched for it to happen. And Mike McCarthy.


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[Assistant] Pooped the bat against the Packers at home. And now it's, if this is a prime Jerry Jones firings.


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[Assistant] If you get bet Bill Belichick to be the next Cowboys coach, go bet it.


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[Assistant] How did you morph into a McCarthy stand? You know what? You should probably take her.


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[Assistant] You should take the second break now and just roll on.


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[Assistant] Can I address something beforehand? I love this lion's team. This is a real Sophie's choice for me. Obviously Matthew Stafford's my guy, but I had the lions win the super bowl. Dan Campbell, Jared golf, who admittedly Wilson, you were early on.


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[Assistant] But you were right. He is fantastic. Jamir Gibbs. Incredible. I'm on St. Brown. Samuel Porter has no business being out there and he's just grinding it out there because Campbell's his coach. Ali McNeil, my guy on defense. I love this Lions team. It's the Stafford Lions matchup was something I really wanted to see. Um, I thought Stafford played incredible and


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[Assistant] Golf was just as good. And this came down to, as I said, with HQ multiple times with you, Wilson on Saturday.


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[Assistant] Who would be more aggressive coaching? And that might flip the game. And I think that is what flipped this game. I thought Stafford, Stafford hit his handle on McNeil Aleem's helmet and that cut it open. He didn't care. He played through it. Golf golf at 22 or 27.


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[Assistant] For 277 yards and a touchdown. No picks. He was tremendous. This game clearly meant a ton to him.


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[Assistant] The GM, the head coach of the Rams, they dumped him for Stafford and won a title and shipped him to Detroit where Stafford couldn't win. And he's here with a winner going to the divisional round. Stafford, this mattered to him. Stafford taking his place.


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[Assistant] Golf is awesome. I think the difference in this game of 24, 23, fantastic NFC wild card matchup was coaching.


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[Assistant] Sean McVeigh was scared and Dan Campbell wasn't. Sean McVeigh is a much better offensive mind than Dan Campbell is. But Dan Campbell is a balls to the wall.


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[Assistant] Players coach of all time players coach who has taken this Detroit Lions team that was complete crap for forever spite good job by Jim Schwartz and Matthew Staffer and turn them into like the new, I don't know, the new favorites in the industry north for years to come.


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[Assistant] How was that midfield that mid that midfield fade call to armor st. Brown.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean the timeout thing, the timeout thing drives me nuts because you


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[Assistant] It's hard to explain. Like you have Matthew Stafford and Sean McFay. How is this an issue where you need to use the timeouts at the same time? Like you trust McFay to make sure you get the right play in. So if you do use the timeouts, it's one thing, but you get there and you're down one point, right?


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[Assistant] Third and third and third and 14 on the 44, they let Stafford throw it and then they punt. And I think at that point, given.


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[Assistant] You got Aaron Donald and that's great. And where he Morris has been awesome. But man, the lions are so aggressive and they


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[Assistant] Actually, in the moment I was thinking about this. I think if, if he said, if he declines the penalty, Sean McVeigh is not going for it. He's kicking. No, he's kicking it. That's right.


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[Assistant] A hundred percent, and, and, and they're probably making the field goal from there. Breach, is he, is Maher, is Maher making that? Maher's making a 51 yard field goal, yea. Uh, yea, I don't know about that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, probably 51. Yeah, m especially down one. He w


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[Assistant] The penalties called, it can either be fourth and four, 51 yard field goal for the Rams who are down one.


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[Assistant] And I can let him kick and go up two points maybe, or I get the ball back and it's over or.


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[Assistant] I can pull him back there. He's probably not gonna, like, McVeigh should've played.


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[Assistant] Like a draw to go for it on fourth down or to kick after that. And instead he played to get it or punt.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Like McVeigh is so notoriously conservative that Campbell knew he would pull him back. He either was trying to get the first down or he'd punt and let his defense play ball. And I think Campbell won the psychology there in terms of coaching.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, I, I think that Sean McVeigh is notorious for playing scared is not going to be aggressive late, late in games. And I think, look, no,


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[Assistant] I think this came down to who was, it came down to who was more aggressive in coaching.


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[Assistant] Dan Campbell was, Sean McVeigh wasn't. Stafford played awesome. The Ramskill guys played awesome. The Lions defense was okay at times. The Rams defense was okay at times. Rams defense was great in the second half. Lions defense made some stops.


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[Assistant] First half was a shootout. It came down to who wanted to be more aggressive and Dan Campbell was.


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[Assistant] Run a draw, run a draw to Ronnie rivers or whoever and like get it. But now look, just to give breach credit here. I think that like to me, this game was two teams that played awesome.


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[Assistant] And it came down to a couple of decisions. It's the opposite of the first game.


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[Assistant] Right? Where the Packers, Packers like deep pants the Cowboys and it was an embarrassment. This was just a really, it's a one point game in a crazy NFC matchup between Stafford and golf, two guys who were traded for each other. It's everything you could ask for. Somehow it didn't go over even though it was a shootout in the first half and


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[Assistant] Like I, I will put blame on McVeigh for the late game aggressiveness, but I agree with you that that ultimately this was just a really good playoff game.


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[Assistant] That's all it was. It's like, like, I'm not going to take away. Wow. Sean McVay can't be a great coach in the NFL or Oh, Dan Campbell is the future of coaching in the NFL. It to me is just, this is a great wild card. We can match up and.


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[Assistant] Jimmy Macklin, most number of receiving yards by any rookie receiver under Andy Reid in NFL history.


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[Assistant] I will say that I mean, curmudgeon style, but I think three games on Saturday, three games on Sunday better than two, two, two.


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[Assistant] Can I do that now? Yeah, why not? It's yours. You do what you wish. Look at this guy. First loss in the playoffs with the Rams came to the lions with whom he'd never won a playoff game.


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[Assistant] He played awesome. He busted his hand open against the, against the Lee McNeil's helmet. And I think that.


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[Assistant] How often do you see, uh, you've never seen, there's never been a playoff game in NFL history when two guys were traded for each other, played against each other in the game in the pro season. I think he's neat.


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[Assistant] I want to send that to HR. It's going to give out time out to make a graphic, making fun of me for Bethy Stafford. Um, look, Harry doesn't have a real quarterback under center. Just stay on topic. Leave Harry alone. Please continue.


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[Assistant] Look, Stafford and golf go head to head.


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[Assistant] This game is built up as the ultimate double revenge game. It's never been, it's never happened before in playoff history or two guys who were traded for each other go head to head and they both played awesome.


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[Assistant] And led all the drives, like even if the Gibbs, I think, had a rushing touchdown, Montgomery had a rushing touchdown. Those were all golf led drives. He and Dan Campbell closed that game out.


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[Assistant] That he, he deserves every bit of praise he gets, but so does Matthew Stafford, 25, 36, 367, two touchdowns, no interceptions while playing with a completely busted hand. It was bleeding all over the place and swollen.


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[Assistant] And not like a decent running game, but not great throw to a rookie receiver and Cooper cup who was smothered the entire time. They were both awesome. Shout out to those two quarterbacks, my dual MVPs.


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[Assistant] Breach, what are the, uh, let's do this in 90 seconds. What are the, uh, schedule ramifications of what might happen on Monday? And what are the early odds for the games that are set? I'll do the Brinton, uh, winds over Brinson odds if you want.


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[Assistant] Wilson, you're in, uh, upstate New York. Do the Bills and Steelers play on Monday?


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[Assistant] A Tuesday playoff game would be some issues for schedule.


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[Assistant] What's up, everybody? Welcome to the pick six podcast. CBS Sports, Ian EFL podcast. I'm Will Brinson joined by John breeches. We got no emergency podcast as the.


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[Assistant] Tennessee Titans have hired according to reports out of the Titans have officially announced it.


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[Assistant] I'm sure Amy Adams strong is downloading Twitter as we speak. Brian Callahan.


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[Assistant] The bingles offensive coordinator, Johnny, what's up buddy?


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[Assistant] That's a nicer spot in uh, in Nashville than you do.


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[Assistant] Because I think that this, this, this move, the Titans hiring Brian Callahan is not to be rude, but like of all the coaching hires that we see this off season, probably the least likely to move the needle.


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[Assistant] Um, Callahan is not technically the play caller in Cincinnati or was not technically the play call in Cincinnati. His dad, Bill Callahan with the Browns offensive line coach.


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[Assistant] Great offensive line coach, former offensive coordinator in many spots in, in head coach as well. Um, that, that we can talk about in a minute, but like kind of a generic.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I don't think that this is, this is not a splash hire by the Titans, but I kind of like the hire. I'm curious what you think is a Bengals fan. Where's your head at scale of one to 10 meter?


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[Assistant] Our boy for the podcast, Jordan, Johnny says the bingles run is over. Are you worried?


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[Assistant] That, uh, obviously our colleague Jordan, Johnny, are you worried that, um, Zach Taylor is now completely in charge of the bingo's off?


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[Assistant] If I'm a Titans fan, I'm like, well, if I'm a Titans fan, I am.


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[Assistant] I think the thing with this hire is that whoever was being hired.


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[Assistant] Is taking over a rebuild and needs to work with Ran Cartham, not Ron Cartham, as I think I called him during the Mike Framble Fired podcast like seven times.


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[Assistant] Brian Callahan is really young. He's 39 years old. He, uh, he is 12 days older than my little brother, Charlie, Charlie Brinson. Shout out to Charlie. Got to start with the Broncos in 2010 really became a, a, you know, has only been like, uh,


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[Assistant] Quarter like you can be an offensive assistant or whatever it is. Um, quality control coach, et cetera.


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[Assistant] Was an offensive assistant for the Broncos for 2013 to 2015 Lions quarterback coach for 2016 to 2017. Then the Raiders quarterback coach. And then it has been the Bengals OC.


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[Assistant] Since then, uh, was the Raiders QB coach saying under Gruden had to have been, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, because remember Bill Callahan was Gruden's OC and then Gruden got traded to the Bucks and Bill Callahan took over the Raiders. Uhm, and took him to the Super Bowl. I will say this. If


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[Assistant] Uh, or that I ever was, but the point being is that Bill Callahan is really good at his job. One of the few offensive line coaches or one of the few coaches in the NFL, along with Mike Munchack, I think.


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[Assistant] Who can make a difference in terms of coaching up your offensive line and immediately making your offensive line better and making life easier for you. So I think that that would be a nice ad and bill Callahan has had an incredible coaching tenure. So if


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[Assistant] Brian Callahan, I just feel like it's a very under the radar hire. I don't feel like it's a bad hire. It's just, there's nothing sexy about it, right?


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[Assistant] About Will Levis, he said that it's like this guy was built to be an NFL quarterback. He's got all the arms shaking, throw to everywhere on the field. And so if you're getting endorsements from both Peyton Manning.


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[Assistant] And you've seen your new coach work well with multiple quarterbacks around the NFL. You know that he's got a pedigree in terms of, it's not like some, something is propped up. He's been around the game for his entire life. Um, he is going to come in and.


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[Assistant] Work with this young quarterback. Yeah, I think that that and probably bring his dad was going to help the offensive line, which is going to help said young quarterback. I think that.


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[Assistant] I mean what, the titans over under is going to be five and a half next year? Six and a half? Maybe? Your hand, your hand by the way.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you what, let's take a quick break and then come back and discuss what this all might look like for Tennessee in terms of our coaching staff and how they build it out next.


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[Assistant] All right. So Brian Callahan hires head coach of the Tennessee Titans. Um, as a Bengals fan, are you worried he's going to take anybody from the Bengals with him?


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[Assistant] And what do you think he sort of builds out of staff? You mentioned right before the break breach, will he call plays?


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[Assistant] I mean, everybody wants to call their own place. And by all accounts, Brian Callahan had a lot to do in terms of the input of the play calling and the setup of the offense in a week to week basis. Zach Taylor was just the mechanism for calling the actual plays during the game.


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[Assistant] Be very curious to see how he handles that because I, I, I would not want


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[Assistant] And this is not based on personal experience, obviously, but.


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[Assistant] Just having been around the league for a long time, I would not want to hire somebody who was coming in


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[Assistant] To coach on the coach from the be the head coach on the sideline on a week to week basis and be calling plays for the first time. That would concern me a little bit.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jordan Dejani, our CBS Sports.com colleague, points out that the Titans are trying to steal Thomas Brown as their OC. Interesting. That's a shot of you, Brown.


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[Assistant] I don't care who you take from the Panthers. The Panthers don't even have a head coach. I don't care. Um, I guess he's technically the offensive coordinator. Um, the Panthers are like double interviewing both their OC and DC, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, this is actually a good point. Um, from excuse me. So, uh,


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[Assistant] Kyle Severin points out possible that Mike Munchek and Bill Callahan both come to the Titans. Mike Munchek former Titans coach. I don't know if that would work out for him to come back. Uh, maybe there's not enough ties there, but.


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[Assistant] When I say nepotism, what I mean is...


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[Assistant] The factual hiring of someone who's been, who's like dad coach in the NFL, right?


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[Assistant] So Kyle Shanahan and Kyle Shanahan has grown his own tree of coaches. He hasn't gone after his dad.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but he hasn't like, he didn't get hired and be like, Oh, I'm going to bring all my dad's friends in. But Brian Callahan's dad is still coaching in the NFL.


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[Assistant] He's probably going to come be the OL coach for the, for the Titans. Their offensive line is probably going to be awesome in year one. And by virtue of all those connections, they can bring in a bunch of people.


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[Assistant] Who have experience coaching and are all cohesive and tight and trust each other and you're not going to have.


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[Assistant] You know, the Thomas Brown thing is interesting because I think that you're not going to get a Panther situation where, um, there's a bunch of different competing interests on the coaching staff. More likely you're going to get this group of people who are there, who have known, you know, Brian Callahan his entire life or able to help him out and proper like, I think there's,


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[Assistant] A good chance you get a experienced head coaching staff in Tennessee.


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[Assistant] John Gruden. How? Or Jay Gruden.


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[Assistant] So yeah, I think, I think in a perfect scenario you bring.


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[Assistant] A bunch of experience in on your coaching staff.


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[Assistant] You need, they got to hit on some draft picks. They don't have a ton on the roster at all. I mean, that's just the bottom line. You hit on some stuff in the draft. You develop Will Levis and.


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[Assistant] All of a sudden the AFC South is a problem because you have four good quarterbacks, uh, in there. The Trevor Lawrence is the worst quarterback in the AFC South in three years. What a, what a, what a plot twist that would be. Uh, I don't think that's going to happen, but you know, you get the point. All right.


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[Assistant] Uh, Harry wants a question about Dan. Anything else on the Titans?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I, John Gruden's gonna get back in the NFL in some capacity. Yeah, I agree with that.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Uh, okay. Bonus content. How do I feel about Dan Morgan being named the Panthers GM in Carolina?


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[Assistant] My buddy drew texting me and said, tell me something positive about Dan Morgan.


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[Assistant] Well, one, he's incredibly handsome, uh, to former first round pick of the Carolina Panthers. Three has had a great, got a great pedigree in terms of what he's done from a front office perspective. After he left playing the game, dealt with concussions at the end of his playing career, but was in Seattle and was in Buffalo.


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[Assistant] For a little bit has seen two organizations that thrive on player development and building things back up from the bottom.


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[Assistant] Is risen up the ranks and while David Tepper isn't a long time, like this would have made.


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[Assistant] All the sense of the world of Jerry Richardson was still the owner because you have this guy who was there when he was drafted him.


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[Assistant] I have concerns and qualms about David Tepper and how long he'll let him operate because of how long David Tepper lets anybody operate. But I think Dan Morgan has shown.


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[Assistant] Working in a front office and he now also VP of football operations for Carolina, which I think may be the most important factor here is the way they're restructuring this.


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[Assistant] And is this David Tepper saying, okay, you're kind of a fan favorite.


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[Assistant] Former first round pick 2001, long time ago, but still a guy who's had success in Carolina.


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[Assistant] And if I like is David Tepper turning over football operations to Dan Morgan and letting him run the football side of things. And if so, and he'll actually keep his mitts out of it, then that's great news. I don't know that Dan Morgan to be able to hire a great head coach.


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[Assistant] Well, I'll take it back. Sorry. Let me refresh. I don't know that Dan Borg is going to make a splash at head coach. He might hire a great head coach.


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[Assistant] But I'm curious to see how this affects the direction of the head coaching hire. It would indicate to me.


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[Assistant] If you make somebody the VP of football operations and also the general manager that you are giving them full control and saying go fix this thing that I kind of screwed up. And if that's the case, then I will tip my captain David Tepper who will have learned his lesson. I don't totally buy it, but breach. I think there's a chance.


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[Assistant] Giving Dan Morgan control could be a very good thing.


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[Assistant] Jimmy, Jimmy Mero's, uh, profile picture, quite, quite the thing, but, uh, excited to see the Titans running modern offense is a very good point. Uh, Mike Vrabel.


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[Assistant] Arthur Smith, everybody in this, in the around, in and around this Titans team has been run heavy.


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[Assistant] If Brian Callahan comes in and slings the ball around a little bit more and you get some wide receivers, you get some pass blocking, you get some Will Levis, be a lot more fun. It's hard to win in the modern NFL.


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[Assistant] When you, you look at the Falcons, you look at the Titans. When you are a run heavy offense in the modern NFL.


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[Assistant] That is hoping to just sorta keep things close with your defense and pound the ball a bunch. You inherently make your entire roster, your, your entire season more fragile because you are, you are, you are willingly.


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[Assistant] Uhm, committing to a bunch of closer games than you necessarily want to be. Like you were saying, we're going to play every game close and try to find a way to steal a win. And when you do that, it's just making life harder on you.


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[Assistant] It is hilarious that we were looking at those old Titans coaches and we're like.


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[Assistant] We're like, uh, so your coach is Jeff Fisher.


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[Assistant] Mike Munchek, Mike Malarkey, Mike Vrabel, Brian Callahan. It's like a Mount Rushmore of like, uh, like unspectacular.


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[Assistant] I just, just, just like very generic, like Frank Smith would have been perfect.


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[Assistant] Can change things up. All right. Anything else on the Titans or the Panthers?


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[Assistant] Can bring veteran smart coaches into the building.


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[Assistant] Stabilize things and you start to build up and maybe you laid a quarterback in the draft and all of a sudden everything changes like it did in Cincinnati with Brian Callahan. Okay, that'll do it for us. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Brian Callahan hired by the Tennessee Titans emergency podcast for breach. I'm Brenton. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast, CBS Sports NFL Podcast, and it is Woo Woo Emergency Podcast Season.


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[Assistant] Sorry, the Michigan Wolverines have won the, no, I'm just kidding. The, uh, congrats to Jim Harbaugh.


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[Assistant] Future NFL head coach who won the national championship last night. Unfortunately, not so much. Congratulations to former.


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[Assistant] Titans head coach, Mike Vrabel fired by the Tennessee Titans on Tuesday afternoon.


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[Assistant] We had, uh, earlier today, I spoke with Mike framework. This is from owner Amy Adams, strong.


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[Assistant] Earlier today, I spoke with Mike variable and told him about my decision to make a change at head coach. I appreciate Mike's contributions to the Tennessee Titans, both on and off the field. We wish Mike gin and the variable family, nothing but the best in the future and perhaps even more telling not tweeted by the Titans.


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[Assistant] Is the continued statement from Amy Adam strong as the NFL continues to innovate and evolve. I believe the team's best position for sustained success with those who empower and align to collaborative team across all football functions. Joining me to talk about my variable being fired. John breach Nashville native Titans Homer Titans. Tell me in your back. Wait, are all the helmets that you have? Did they all the coaches get fired?


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[Assistant] Feel free to hit the mute button there, Breach. Uhm, yeaah, variable got fired.


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[Assistant] And I think it's, it's really interesting that you have a situation in Tennessee where.


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[Assistant] The Titans are the number one seed a couple of years ago. They have this clear cut identity of defense running the football. Derek Henry, Ryan Tannehill, you know, not making a bunch of mistakes, sort of game managing, taking some deep shots to AJ Brown and variable as the coach and


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[Assistant] I don't know if it was like sustainable from a long-term perspective, just because that sort of football is hard to keep going over the long haul, you know, built around a running back and a defensive is up and down at times. Now you have the like AJ Brown gets traded.


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[Assistant] Mike Vrabel throws a fit during the draft when AJ Brown is traded to the Eagles. John Robinson gets fired the game after AJ Brown torches the Titans with the Eagles and is replaced by Ron Carthon. And I sort of thought breach that the pervading theory was that.


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[Assistant] This was a hire that Mike Vrabel signed off on as the, in terms of the GM, that Vrabel had most of the personnel control and that Vrabel basically was running things in that building. Now you take a look at Vrabel closing out the last, um, two years. Not great.


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[Assistant] Six and 18 in the final, 24 games under Mike Raible. Terrible. Second worst in the NFL. Uh, 48 and 27 before that.


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[Assistant] And then I think since week 12 last season, there's six and 18 and the office is completely cratered over the last two years, 29th and points per game, 30th and pass yards per game. It's been a bad offense.


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[Assistant] The Ron Carthen, Mike Vrabel relationship. I think that's clear for maybe Adam Shrunk statement. Uh, we did not misunderstand though. Yeah. Yesterday when we talked about, we did a black Monday recap. We mentioned extensively the idea that Mike Vrabel might be, uh, I don't even know if surprise would be the word, but like might be on the outs of Tennessee. And here we are.


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[Assistant] I'd rather have to rebuild this team. Derek Henry is a free agent. Ryan Tanel is a free agent. Deandre Hopkins has a $15 million cap. They can save over almost $8 million or over $8 million right around there in terms of salary cap space by cutting him.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, there's some other pieces on the roster that Jeffrey Simmons is a stud, but I mean.


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[Assistant] Let's talk about Vrabel first and then talk about the Titans. I think, right? That's more interesting, isn't it? Yeah, his future definitely.


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[Assistant] So that's fascinating that they didn't want to trade him. You, I don't know if you were getting a first round pick for Mike variable, but you were getting a second round pick for Mike variable, right?


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[Assistant] You get a second round pick for Mike Vrabel. Now, if the only place that wants to trade for him is New England, and I think that there's a lot of people that believe Mike Vrabel could very well be the next head coach of the New England Patriots. If the Patriots decided to move on from Bill Belichick, like that is going to be the rumor du jour. Well, I mean, one does Mike Vrabel really want to just take


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[Assistant] He's not really from the Belichick tree, even though he anyway, it's like, I think that's the logical landing spot, but that would involve the Patriots having to move on quickly from Belichick. The Titans, like, I guess I don't understand what the Titans rush here is. Do they think they're going to go get Jim Harbaugh and he's just going to take over the team?


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[Assistant] I mean, I, I don't know, it's, it's, it's like what, I, I, maybe I'm higher on my variable than...


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[Assistant] And it's like, what has Ron Karthen done? I mean, decent draft class, right? You've got Peter Skowronski, Will Levist, Taji Spears, these are first three picks, but like what, what is Ron Karthen done to lead you to believe that it's like, Oh,


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[Assistant] This guy is going to just completely rebuild this team.


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[Assistant] I mean, I, I understand why you go your separate ways and, and I'm not surprised that given like what we'd heard and all that. Uhm, anyway, let's focus on Brave Book.


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[Assistant] Do you think Vrabel goes to, it's just hard to unpack. It's like, what are the Titans? Um, where do you think Mike Vrabel ends up? Is it New England?


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[Assistant] We talked about that a little bit yesterday and I threw out that I didn't know if he would, I mean he and Arthur Smith are boys. It's easier when, the issue with the Belichick thing in New England is like, you would be, you've been,


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[Assistant] And you're probably not going to bring him in as an offensive coordinator, I would guess. He can take Arthur Smith to Los Angeles too, by the way.


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[Assistant] Or the Titans could hire Arthur Smith as their head coach. No, that would be something, wouldn't it? Um, the, but if.


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[Assistant] Like do you, like would you, if you're Atlanta, do you want to hire the guy who basically caused you to hire Arthur Smith?


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[Assistant] So right now, Mike Vrabel is the best coach on the market, yeaah.


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[Assistant] So yeah, if you're, I mean, if you're Atlanta and you think you can get a quarterback like a Jayden Daniels at seven or that you can trade up and maybe like Drake may, maybe like every kid was probably not going to fall. You'd have to give up a ton, but.


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[Assistant] If you, if you feel like you can get a quarterback in there for him and he would probably be, I would guess that variable if he went to Atlanta would want to bring Tana Hill as a backup.


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, you know, like you draft a guy and you bring Tannehill, maybe as a backup or, or say Tannehill, you'd be the starter while we bring this guy along. Um, I think it's entirely possible that you can, the Falcons could be good.


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[Assistant] Okay. All right. So Mike variable, plenty of options. You could see him fitting in almost any of the available spots. Um, don't see it working in Carolina and David tempers really painting himself in a corner. Um, let's say you're


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[Assistant] Uh, John Robinson, the GM trades away AJ Brown after that season. I mean, they had no, but Traylon Burks was their number one wide receiver in 2022 and they brought in Julio Jones. That didn't work out. They brought in DeAndre Hopkins in 2023. Like the AJ Brown trade really, really hurt that franchise in terms of their offense. And let's not forget.


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[Assistant] Two of his offensive coordinators, Matt LaFleur and Arthur Smith went on to get head coaching jobs. So you've seen a lot of attrition, um, in terms of, yeah. And I think some of the first round picks like Caleb Farley.


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[Assistant] They've had, they've had a bunch of guys like they, they, John Robinson reached for guys because of injury. You know, the Jeffrey Simmons thing worked out really well because he fell to them. But then there was,


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[Assistant] Like in a good quarterback, he could do some damage. Absolutely. So I'm on, I'm on board with that completely. All right, let's take a break. And when we come back candidates, where does the Tennessee Titans job rank?


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[Assistant] And what candidates would be a good fit for the Titans next.


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[Assistant] Mike variable out in Tennessee, which means the Titans have to hire a new head coach. Their GM Ron Carthen. Presumably I haven't double checked the Titan statement. I mean, I don't think they said anything about this, but I will assume.


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[Assistant] That they're going to let Ron Carthen hire the, uh, the next head coach, former director of player personnel with the Niners.


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[Assistant] From 2021 to 2022, also director of pro personnel for San Francisco for 2017 through 2022 stands to reason breach that if you're going to pick someone for Ron Carthen to hire, that you should focus on the mic. Uh, this could be the cow Shanahan coaching tree, right?


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[Assistant] And when Sean McVeigh got hired in 2017, I assume he got, I mean, they, they cleaned house unless he took over. No, he went out.


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[Assistant] But that means he joined, he joined the Niners with Cal Shanahan, right? Yes. Yes. So.


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[Assistant] If you've got a GM who gets rid of Mike Vrabel and wins a power struggle with Mike Vrabel.


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[Assistant] And it's completely rebooting a franchise. You're losing your like Derek Henry. I mean, in terms of the Tennessee Titans.


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[Assistant] The time spent with ownership, with the owner. And you see this a lot, right? Like Ron Carthens spending more time. He like, he's watching the games with Amy Adams, strong in that owner's box. And Mike Fable's down on the sidelines. I think a lot of times you can see a GM win that power show, but I agree crazy hired in January 18, 2023.


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[Assistant] I mean, he hadn't been able to job a full year and he just got Mike Vrabel fired. I think it is a stone cold, mortal lock. Assuming that the relationships are good. I don't know the answer to that, that he goes out and hires a Bobby Slowick or a Frank Smith. One of these Kyle Shanahan offensive coordinators.


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[Assistant] To come in and potentially operate with, you know, you're going to rebuild the offensive line in your, in sort of this. I think, I think he's going to try and rebuild.


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[Assistant] The Titans in a San Francisco style way by bringing in, you know, like maybe go out and get some speed at receiver.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, there's a dude, there's a lot to be done here, right? I mean, that's, I mean, when you look at this Tennessee roster,


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[Assistant] Hopkins likely gone. I mean, I would assume this is, this is a full blown rebuild.


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[Assistant] And the only reason it's more attractive than the Panthers job is because you're not saddled with Bryce Young for the next three years and you have a first round pick in the top ten.


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[Assistant] Like otherwise, otherwise I think Carolina would be a more attractive job. And I mean, it feels like if you're in with the GM, you know, you're in with the ownership right now. Who knows in Carolina? I mean, in terms of like young pieces, I mean, it's not a lot on this roster. So who?


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[Assistant] I mean, it's like Peter Skowronski, Will Levison, Jeffrey Simmons.