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[Assistant] Well, I couldn't put him much higher than that. I needed to see a little bit more. You know, when we did the reassessment in week 10, he ended up in the top five or six or right there.


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[Assistant] I've had people come at me and go, you're an idiot, you had Alan at 18 last year. I'm not the f***ing oracle, I can't see the future.


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[Assistant] This is my biggest, some of my biggest backlash. You have him at 18, you're crazy, that's way too high. So that's where I get frustrated, is people look back and then they go,


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[Assistant] You, and I want to go like, dude, I'm taking what's there to be had. I am making a little projection. I'm not going to make a guy move them up 30 spots just off of projection. Like that's, that's not going to happen. So those are the guys I worry about, like Burrow. He's, they talk about him proving his, his, uh, popping his arm. There's been a lot of talk about that lately.


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[Assistant] He's healthy. He's got the potential to be in the top 10. He's the first name that comes to mind. Well, he's certainly one of those guys that scares me to where that's to the backlash I'll get, you know, halfway. You had him at 19, you're an idiot. Or you're 17, you're an idiot. And it's like, oh, you know, so those are always the ones I worry about.


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[Assistant] So that, what was the, the true question there, just about the ones where I worry about where I'm wrong?


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[Assistant] Yeah, alright. I mean, I feel like, you know, that 18, 19, 20 spot where I have Carson Wentz, Sam Donnell, and Cam Newton is definitely a controversial spot. You know, people think I'm way too high on all three of those guys.


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[Assistant] Tam especially. Just from what I saw. Right. And then Sam, you know, I mean he's not done anything apparently and he's just horrible so that no one can see that. You know, and I do worry about


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, this cam have another gear, this weird throwing thing, then yeaah, I might look stupid.


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[Assistant] You know, and if, if Sam doesn't show a little potential in an upgrade here, that might not make me look real good either. And the same with Carson. I've been a defender of him.


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[Assistant] He's got no excuses in Indianapolis with that team around him here. So, those are ones I look at to go either way. Where I could be also, Carson Wentz has the potential to be a top ten. Cause he was two years ago. He was, that's what I mean. You could sit here again and go, that's where he worries me. He's gonna go to the Colts.


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[Assistant] Right? I don't know where his mind's at, everything like that. I know he has the potential to be that top ten guy. You know, that's another one where people could call me out either way a year from now and go, you're an idiot, you were too high, you were too low. So I guess that's the area that jumps out to me the most.


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[Assistant] I didn't know Jordan Palmer said that, but I think he's in that conversation. Yeah. This is, it's the strongest arm. All time is like, you saw Elway, Marino throw. It's that type of talent. It is that type.


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[Assistant] Is the strongest in the NFL right now. His arm is stronger than Mahomes. That's one thing I, I, and Mahomes again, not saying he's a better passer and thrower than Mahomes, but his arm, it's all time strong. It's all time. It's up there with the Rodgers, the Marinos, the Elwes, any of that. The athleticism,


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's right up there with the Elways and everything like that too. The only athleticism people he's not gonna be up there with are the Lamars and the Kyler Murrays and Michael Vicks. Other than that...


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[Assistant] You know, he's in the class with anybody else as far as a runner or a scrambler, so yeaah.


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[Assistant] You'd go, whoa, I didn't realize he's this fast. You know, and I think you know.


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[Assistant] And the arm thing, I mean, I know you see it on TV and all that, but it still surprises people when they see it in person. Like, oh my gosh. I think we heard that a number of times last year from teams that played Josh Allen and all that. And again, he's not saying he's the best quarterback of all time, he's just telling you the talent, the pure raw ability


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[Assistant] As good as anybody ever. I can get behind that.


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[Assistant] I don't think anything speaks louder than the fact that he plays for a defensive coach.


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[Assistant] And that's how you breed greatness. Because now he's giving greatness confidence. Right? Like Mahomes had that with Andy Reid.


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[Assistant] And, you know, at some point you need that quarterback to kind of just be like, that coach that believes in the quarterback and go, you're awesome, I can see it, I believe in you, we're gonna go all in, we might hit a few bumps in the road, but I know you got this in you. And I think, you know, that says a lot to me that McDermott went to that point with Alan.


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[Assistant] So close between all three. I mean, you heard me say...


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[Assistant] The Alan Rogers thing, I went back and forth. Was that the hardest one number difference? I think it was there. I think Mahomes was number one in my mind pretty quickly. That seemed easy for you. It was. I put him number one to start before I even watched film or got into anything like digging into it. I just was like, okay, one, boom, Mahomes. And then I kind of started to go from there. You know,


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[Assistant] No, it was Rodgers. Yeaah, I wrote Rodgers first, Alan 3 at first, and then I kind of fumbled between Watson and Wilson, it was 4 and 5, a little bit there, but uhm,


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[Assistant] The guy like Mahomes right now is just a little bit of the knowledge aspect, you know.


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[Assistant] Throwing wise, hey, are there some throws that maybe he's a little better than Mahomes at? Maybe.


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[Assistant] To say Rogers has the advantages in some of the mental stuff. It's not like Mahomes is far behind.


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[Assistant] Again, as a guy, he makes a ton of right decisions. At times, can he be a hair too aggressive and leave a guy underneath where you go, ah, you just, you don't need to throw that ball down there. This guy was open for an eight yard gain. Let him catch it and run with it or do something. Yeah, it's not perfect yet, but you're going to have to live with that, some of that.


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[Assistant] So I guess what I'm saying is, no, I don't think it was, he was clearly one.


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[Assistant] He's clearly won. The way he plays, the presence on the field, you know, the variety of throws, the decision making, you know, the, the escape ability, uh, the confidence in which he gives his team and everything like that. It's, it's special.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was a tough one. It was. This is another one where I would say, really, after Alan Rogers,


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[Assistant] I would say this was the one I was probably in the top 10 split hairs about the most. I believe I first wrote down Kyler Murray 6, Lamar 7. What was the difference in the end? I think the difference in the end is still, you know, the fact that Lamar


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[Assistant] And what he brings to the table as a runner, I think is still greater than Kyler Murray. There's a real schematical thing he brings to the team that way.


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[Assistant] And, you know, again, I guess I'm giving him a little advantage too of just what he's done. He's brought his team to the playoffs. He's played in playoff games. I haven't seen Kyler Murray necessarily


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[Assistant] Delivering some of the must need win moments quite yet, like I've seen Lamar Jackson. Now everyone's gonna go, well, what about the playoff games? Well, he delivered in one of them this year, but he still did a lot of other big time moments they needed to deliver and he delivered to help them win games where I go, I just, I guess I'm giving him the advantage of that. And Kyler wasn't


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[Assistant] You know, as awesome the last six and seven weeks of the year as he was the first ten weeks of the year. And I think we gotta take that into account as well.


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[Assistant] They'd matter. I gave, you know, I gave a little bit of that leadership toughness, what you do to your team to give them an edge, things like that. Lamar has a fire and a passion about him that he brings to the field, whether it's yelling at John Harbaugh on the sidelines, go for it coach, yeaah, let's go for it. Then he goes and runs for a touchdown and makes the coach look right, like a genius.


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[Assistant] He has a real presence and toughness that he brings to the football team.


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[Assistant] And not to say Kyler Murray doesn't have that, I just, I've seen it a little more from Lamar.


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[Assistant] You know, that way, and uhm, Lamar's passing is not as unpolished as people want to say.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's, the mechanics are pretty good. You know, he is a little bit...


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[Assistant] You know, where we get into like, like the Justin Fields thing with the elbow thing, right? Lamar has a little of that, but it's a different way. It's not the same way. First off, Lamar keeps it there, like Michael Vick did.


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[Assistant] So there's less of a movement and motion to get it there for less things to go wrong. I'm fine with him that. To me the biggest thing with Lamar is can sometimes be his feet a little bit. He can let his feet get a little too close together.


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[Assistant] But, uh, I think the last thing is, he can just...


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[Assistant] He doesn't get his upper body involved in the throw enough. I'm going to grab the football here for anybody watching. You know, he can, he's got such a great flexible arm and he can kind of stay just like in this position, right? That's Lamar Jackson. Michael Vick was this way too and it just goes right here. It's clean and tight and that's all good.


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[Assistant] You know, there are times, especially sometimes on a deep ball, like the deep ball that jumps out to me more than any, there's a throw, somebody go back and watch it if you want against the Tennessee Titans in the regular season game. He throws a little post, post corner, deep down the field, the guy's open, he throws a duck.


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[Assistant] And it gets intercepted because he just, he kind of locks that shoulder in and just throws it with his arm and lets it do it that way. And that can lean lentil again to when you just throw all arm.


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[Assistant] You know, the ball's not always going to come out perfectly the way you want it. That's why people have mechanics to, like, let me do a body throw and let my arm be the reaction instead of the main focal point. And to me, that would probably be the biggest thing. So he could be here, you know, Kristen, if you can go to my ISO again.


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[Assistant] He could be here and nothing moves or does that. And if he could just do that a little bit more. And I'll tell you where he does it amazing and is his best throws. And I would love to talk to him about this one day. Cause if he has anything over the middle of the field, 10, 15 yards, five yards or whatever, he's gotten into this.


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[Assistant] And it feels comfortable slotting it out from there. He's had no one help him from doing it from the traditional standpoint of learning how to get that shoulder movement and do that and do it that way. It's safer. It feels more comfortable to dip down and throw that ball that way. He probably feels like he has a better control because he's using his body a little bit more, even though it looks like he's dropped to three quarters or a sidearm.


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[Assistant] And you know, just before the Twitter universe and everybody starts hating on me and go,


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[Assistant] Just, Justin Fields is like a drastic go up to that and he lets his arm get like out here like this. That does not happen with Lamar. It stays here and it's there and it's locked up there. So it's not as much of a moving.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, what do I want to say? Not as much movement in the delivery and before the delivery.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's still worthy of that conversation and that kind of guy. Yeah, I think that this offense can, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, un-tap some potential for, for Russell Wilson. Because, I think the big thing I'll talk about, and you've heard me say this phrase,


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[Assistant] I've said it a lot with Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers through the year. They don't even know what they don't know.


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[Assistant] They don't know. Here, I'm telling you, Russell Wilson's gonna have, and you've already heard this, if you look at the transcripts of what the Seahawks receivers have said and Russell Wilson have said, they're kind of blown away by the offense.


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[Assistant] Because there's answers for everything. There's rules for everything. And they've been a little bit like, this is the play. Oh, they played that defense? This is the play. So, so we told you what to do.


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[Assistant] You know, Shane Waldron's gonna go, oh wait, no, if they play that defense, check out and do this. Oh wait, no, they're playing that defense. Receiver, you have to stop. You're not gonna run the corner route now. Now you're gonna run a 20-yard curl route and sit like, so there's all this that's going on. And to me, that's, it is gonna make Russell a better quarterback and a better player. I would be shocked if not. Cause now he's gonna have real,


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[Assistant] Confidence, answers, and things like that, to where when he does drop back, he's gonna be like,


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[Assistant] The coaching is gonna paint the picture for him a little bit, to where he's gonna wait. Coach said this guy would be right here, just read him, okay, he went that way, I throw to this guy. And I think it's gonna make life easier on him, ultimately. Might have a little more thinking in training, can't have a preseason because of the new rules and all that, but it's gonna make the field more open when the real games start.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he could, he could definitely play that scheme. You know, Derek Carr is plenty athletic enough to be the boots play action guy. He's a better athlete than Jared Goff, just at a base standpoint right there, just to make that base. So if we saw Goff can do it, Jared Goff can, I mean, uh, Derek Carr can do it.


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[Assistant] You know, I mean, I think, listen, you know, hypotheticals here, if they were going to make that trade.


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[Assistant] You know, yes, I would think the Seahawks would want Derek Carr and go, yeah, we'll take Derek Carr, but you got to give us some draft picks too. I mean, we're definitely trading away a top five quarterback for a guy that's.


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[Assistant] You know, edge of the top ten. Our fan base certainly isn't gonna just go, oh yeah, we're swapping car for Wilson, no problem, sounds good. No, there's gonna have to be some other...


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[Assistant] Assets involved in that. Even though Derek Carr is a nice quarterback. He's a really good quarterback. It's a step down. It's a step down. I mean, his own brother said so. Yeah. He might have been inadvertently, he might have said so. Uh, but yeah. Accidentally. But yeah, it's, uh, it's, it's, uh,


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[Assistant] I look at it, you know, it's where it's just, again, it's funny though with the quarterback thing and all of that. Like, hey listen, the Raiders...


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[Assistant] If they got Russell Wilson, I, I don't look at them and go, oh gosh, they're a Super Bowl team now. No, yeaah. We all gotta get over that aspect. It's not about the one guy. It's not. You know, it's more to it than that. So uhm, yeaah, I would think you have to get some assets along


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[Assistant] He is. You got a good quarterback. It's about how, where they believe he is right now and everything like that. I'm in the camp of like, listen, you got one that's good. I've seen enough to know he's got the real talent. I know he loves football. I know people in Cleveland. I know some of the players there. He does everything the right way.


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[Assistant] So if you believe you got a guy, and you believe he's talented,


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[Assistant] Then just pay him and get it done with now and get it for the low. Right. You know, maybe they want to see just a little bit more evidence cause it's, you know, we had that hiccup in year two with Freddie kitchens and everything like that. Yeah. But man, they should know what he is by now.


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[Assistant] I don't really have any questions about them anymore. It's just about like, how good is Baker gonna get? How long is Josh Allen gonna stay in the top five? How awesome is Lamar gonna be for this long?


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[Assistant] I don't disagree with you. I mean, you know, we got talent.


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[Assistant] Has a presence on the field and off the field in the locker room. Showed maturity on and off the field this year. You know, know he loves his sport and work ethic. What else do you want more at quarterback? Who are you going to get if you give him away? What's your alternative?


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[Assistant] Right. What's your other option? Exactly right. So, that's where, you know, like to, yeaah, it's a little bit of a leap of faith. Okay, yeaah, everything is to a degree. But, you know, what I would say is, no, get it done.


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[Assistant] Maybe get them a little for the low right now for three years down the line where you go, oh look, we're only paying them this now. Three years from now, who knows where the market will be. And also, you know, you want to make it work just like we talk about with anything. Okay, you've invested in them.


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[Assistant] Make sure he's got support around him to continue to, you know, show the value of your investment. That's where you can't mess up either. And I think if you do those things and you're sold on weight, talent, work ethic, leadership, all those type of things, get it done. And that's where I'm with you on that one.


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[Assistant] We could be the MVP. He could, he could be. Yep. He could be that guy. Yes. Listen, they go 14 and 3 and he's towards the top of football and touchdowns and quarterback rating and all of that. He's going to be in the MVP conversation and then he's going to go, I want to be the highest paid quarterback in football.


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[Assistant] Why not get it done now and get all that conversation and bullshit out of the way?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a great question. It's real. I mean, really, I think, you know, we, we, we, I know we've hit on this, you know, other than the Cardinals, the, uh, the Bills and the Chiefs, right? Those are the three teams I look at to go, like, they don't really, the Bills do play action and it still was effective. That's what's crazy.


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[Assistant] But yes, that has become the, the league MO. I mean, you really, I'm sitting here just looking at the top offenses in football. I mean, gosh, out of the top 12, I mean, all of them have that run, play, action. That's what we do. Uh,


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[Assistant] It's, I think this is why you're gonna continue to see


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[Assistant] Corners drafted high in the draft because...


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[Assistant] We can't defend at all. Let's bring a safety down. We'll, we'll trust J.C. Horner, Patrick Surtain to cover, you know, A.J. Brown deep down the field and do that. There's going to be that aspect. You know, I also think the other combative thing that I think we'll have to see, you've heard me say this. I think this is the next thing we're going to see on defense. Big up front. Yeah, I think you heard me say this a little last year.


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[Assistant] Big up front, hey front four, or hey, we played a bare front and have five people. You guys worry about the f***ing run. Second level linebackers, I want the first two steps to be pass. Even if you see play action.


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[Assistant] I wanted to be, let me take a step back before you run up to the hill and do something like that. I think there's gonna have to be some thought of that. Especially with a team like, like let's just say Buffalo, who did good on play action. Like, I would be telling them, especially if you're playing them,


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[Assistant] Like, make them show me run the football first. Like, when they run the ball for 10 yards a few times on us, then, okay, fill the gaps and do that. Until then, they have Josh Allen and they just want to throw a play action pass. They want to throw it deep.


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[Assistant] Go back first. We'll worry about their shitty run game with Devon Singletary and all that. Second. And I, I, but I think those are a few thoughts that come to my head along, uh, shutdown corners, bigger upfront, not so run aggressive second level linebackers.


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[Assistant] I think you're right about that. Right. That kind of guy. Exactly. He took a wrong step into the hole. Oh, but shit, it doesn't matter. He's so fucking fast. He got back to take away the play action pass over the middle. More personnel than scheme to deal with. I think so. More personnel. And then we're, we'll go into the scheme thing too. Again, if you get the big people upfront,


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[Assistant] You know, Tampa had this luxury. Yea, they did. This is what they could do, go...


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[Assistant] What? Big people up front, we're removable up there. Vita Villasue, JPP, I mean our 290 pound defense end, and then Shaq Barrett who's 265-270, but either way they'd go, we're gonna play too deep. We're gonna play too deep coverage.


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[Assistant] Go ahead, try to run the ball. I think that's what you're going to continue to see too. That's where I said the big defensive line thing can come into play. Well, we're big up front.


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[Assistant] Show us you can really run the ball with Aaron Jones on our defensive front. Let's just see. Let's see. Oh, and then maybe we'll bring a safety down in the box then. That never happened, so they just kept being able to play too deep on Rodgers and them all game long.


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[Assistant] He did not play awful. The team was awful. Did he make some mistakes here and there? There's no doubt. Anybody would have looked pretty awful with some of that team and what he had around him. You know, so again, don't put all the team stuff on one guy. You know, and yeaah, he's not, you know,


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[Assistant] He's not a top five quarterback and can't do it all himself. He needs to play, be on a team that can keep him healthy because they can protect him or run the ball or do anything like that.


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[Assistant] You know, but, again, I just think it's between what I saw last year, yeaah, take into account what I even saw a little the year before, everything like that. There's, there's, there's too many high level skills for me to have him much lower than that.


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[Assistant] I still, well no, I still, it's not about that, it's just like...


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[Assistant] I've seen enough from even two years ago and last year, even though he didn't play the full year and all that, just the piece together to go, wait, we're going on the right track. I'm not just wiping away.


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[Assistant] You know, everything we've ever seen to go along with that. Yeaah, I know the list is about now and last year and everything like that. I take into account all of it to a degree, uhm, and especially now gets the advantage, but yeaah, I just, you know, when I came back from it,


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[Assistant] Whatever it was, not long after the draft was over and I started breaking these guys down a little bit.


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[Assistant] That, okay, there was a few careless decisions here and there, but like when I watched his game, I couldn't come away from games and going, man, Sam Darnham was really just, he was bad.


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[Assistant] He missed this open guy. He made a bad read here. I mean, I would go through games and go, well, here, there's 20 passes so far. Yeah, he's 11 for 20, but I didn't see on the nine, the nine incompletions where I was like, man,


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[Assistant] That was bad. Or man, he shoulda, he's leaving, he's leaving a lot of plays on the, on the field. I went, man, I wish the protection was better. Man, that's a stupid f***ing basic play. Had he stayed with the Jets, you think he'd be at 19?


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[Assistant] Yes. Yeaah. He would. Yeaah. That says a lot about him. I'm not gonna let that all take away from the player.


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[Assistant] That's not. So, he answered questions for me last year. He did. Uh, and, and then I guess he had some guys that were in front of him that didn't do as well that fell behind him. And I expect, you know, his game to go at an upward trend anyways.


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[Assistant] He is. That's why he's the scary one. That's why he is. I'm betting on...


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[Assistant] Everybody's gonna see the talent now that he's got a little talent around him.


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[Assistant] Well, I, I feel like again, yes, it's a, it's a great question, you know.


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[Assistant] It's not about, I don't look at it and just go, well, this guy's athletic, let me give him the ranking. I, again, I'm taking it all into it. You know, Taysom Hill can still do a ton of the drop back quarterback stuff and be really awesome. He threw for 72%.


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[Assistant] You know, dropping back to pass. He can do all of that stuff. Like the Trey Lance and Justin Fields, I have...


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[Assistant] Real questions about that aspect of their game, as you know. So that's why, you know, with Mac Jones, yeah, I know he's not a great athlete, but I knew he was NFL ready and can read coverages and throw all the appropriate balls and be awesome that way within the pocket. So I didn't, I don't ever boil this. If it's really close.


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[Assistant] And you got two quarterbacks where I go, okay, man, it's check box, check box, check box, check box. And then I might get into.


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[Assistant] Okay, now wait, who's more athletic? Like this is a tie. Who's more athletic, who can make things off schedule more? Then that's where I go with that guy. But I don't just go, oh, the more athletic guy wins this, this competition all the time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I didn't, I didn't, uh, it's, it's a good question, and maybe I, maybe I confused. I, I've always liked his running ability. I think it's overrated, I guess is what I'm saying. I'd like to see it. Yeah, I, because of what he said.


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[Assistant] Yes, yes, exactly right. I do. I gotta say, the competition was less than. I mean, he's playing linebackers that are me. Sorry, and that me's not that impressive at linebacker. So, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I felt like it was overblown during the draft process. He's certainly athletic and can be yes.


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[Assistant] A really dangerous runner running the football and especially with Shanahan's schematics behind it and all of that.


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[Assistant] But yeah, I mean people at first were trying to like make him like he was Lamar Jackson. That's probably where I got wrong or I got this guy.


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[Assistant] I was thinking the wrong thing where I was going, wait, everybody pumped the brakes. He's not Lamar Jackson here. I mean, Lamar Jackson was doing it against Florida State with Jalen Ramsey and Derwin James and they were chasing him and they couldn't tackle him. Sorry. I haven't seen that from Trayland. So yes, I think he's going to be a good runner. I'm just saying let's pump the brakes on calling Lamar or Michael Vickway yet.


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[Assistant] I don't know, uh, Andrew Luck had talent that popped off the screen. Davis Mills does not have that type of talent, so that's an insane comment from anybody to make. I don't mean to be disrespectful to Davis Mills, but like, come on.


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[Assistant] Andrew Luck was like slam dunk, number one pick of the draft. Nobody doubted it. There was no questions in his game. He's built like a Greek God. He runs four or five. Oh, and he can throw the ball 80 yards. None of which Davis


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[Assistant] Exactly. Like, come on, that's insane. Or why? Cause they're smart? Like, oh, they're smart. He's just like Andrew Luck. He's smart. Except for the other ten things you need. Uh, so Davis Mills, yeaah, sorry. I see smart guy, knows how to play the quarterback position. Good athlete. Nothing special.


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[Assistant] I don't see any game changing talent in my opinion. That's all I'm saying.


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[Assistant] Right, right, and they were, and the team that drafted him wanted Kellen Maughan!


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[Assistant] They've already, we already know that. The Texans were on the phone with Kellen Maughan.


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[Assistant] Minnesota picked him. They had to then go to Davis Mills. So, you know, but again, Davis Mills, he could probably be a starting quarterback. I don't deny that. But I don't think he ever has the potential to be a top 15 quarterback in football. Maybe I'm wrong. And if I am, you know, I'll say it.


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[Assistant] I mean, hey, listen, I understand the Trevor thing. Uhm, Justin Fields and Trev- I'm interested in the Justin Fields and Trevor thing.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean hey listen, Lance, he starts with 49ers, that team, that could be a real possibility. Real possibility. Uhm, and you know me, I wouldn't sleep on Zach Wilson. Here, here's one thing that's jumped out to me. Alright? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] And again, maybe we could dive into this. Maybe people could tell me I'm wrong. I know I'm not reading everything in the news from every city and all of this. But, I am a little into the chatter this time of the year. Trevor Lawrence there hasn't been much about because he's injured. He can't quite go. I'm not worried about Trevor Lawrence. No, he's gonna be a stud. No doubt about it.


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[Assistant] I can't sit here and tell you that from what I've read, reading between the lines, it doesn't sound to me like Justin Fields or Trey Lancer blowing anybody out of the water in either one of those cities. Just from what I'm reading and again, my experience of reading everything in football for a long, long time and being around it. I just, I'm just interested because there's a lot more than on Zach Wilson.


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[Assistant] But, but, like, I've heard it from people who are not here outside of league circles, like, oh man, hey, I'm, people in the Jets are telling me Zach Wilson is just every day, it's unreal. But like, dad came on here a few weeks ago, he works at a gym with a few Jets players, it's all they talk about.


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[Assistant] You know, comments I hear in San Francisco sometimes are like, when Trey Lance makes a mistake, he doesn't make it again.


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[Assistant] Right? I didn't hear that one fucking time with Zach Wilson. I just heard, awesome throw, awesome play, blah, blah, blah. With Justin Fields, it's, I'm working on my mechanics after the, I didn't hear that one time with Zach Wilson either. I mean, there's something there to be said about that. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. I'm just telling you that's where my mind goes, and as I read into things a little bit.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think sometimes it does. I heard the same stuff last year. I said this with Tula and Justin Herbert. I went, man, you hear...


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[Assistant] Like, people kind of raving about Herbert, to uh, you just hear like...


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[Assistant] It's, it's amazing. Well, you know, as I, as you know, I've, I lived in Boston for three years and even my friends up there, it's like split down the middle. Some of them were, yes, he's back. I believe in him. The other ones are like, oh my gosh, he's the worst quarterback in football. How are we bringing him back?


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[Assistant] Well it was like 33, we divided it up at the time, it was like the fans, Lefkoe and me, like I had 30%, 33%, Lefkoe was 33% and then the fans were the other 33%.


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[Assistant] Why, you know, hmm, that's a good, that's a, that's a really good question. Uhm, his ceiling?


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[Assistant] You know, I would say his top five quarterback days are over. Do I still think he could be in the top ten? It's close, right. It's that like, maybe if he had a phenomenal year,


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[Assistant] And proved some of the questions we all have about him and things like that and just passed it with like extraordinary


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[Assistant] No, I think you're around there. I think like, hey listen, it's an extraordinary year he can get right there to maybe 9 or 10, maybe. But you're right, I think it's an extraordinary year. I don't know if that's in him anymore at this point. And really the big thing is it's not about being in him, it's just damn the


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[Assistant] Top 12 or 13 are super talented. And other than Brady.


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[Assistant] Other than Brady and Rogers, out of like the top 13, are all in the primes of their careers. And you have 6 rookies.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what I mean. And then, you know, you get into the other people that are questionable as well, like Joe Burrow coming back, Sam Darnold that we talked about, how do they play, all that type of stuff. So I think really probably the ceiling is about


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[Assistant] I guess in my heart of hearts. It's still pretty high. It's high, right. It's really, I think realistically, really good year, everything like that. He's, you know, somewhere one of those guys that's in 13, 14, 15, something like that.


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[Assistant] Alright so here, full transparency right here. Alright, goal post, it's all CGI, all of it, it's all CGI. I did it for real though, like I did that. I bet you I threw the ball at the goal post 20 times. I bet you I hit it 17.


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[Assistant] Eighty-five percents. Goal post, I'm a f***ing machine. That's what I do with people. I play that game. That's what I do. I mean, I, I played it with Josh Allen. He beat me. Okay? Yea, a little more practice.


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[Assistant] I think you're like, we took like two shots. He hit on the second, and on the second one I missed by like...


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[Assistant] Well, he's pretty damn good, he is. So, so, alright, so full transparency, uh, goal, goal post thing, I really, I, I hit it a bunch of times. Moving target.


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[Assistant] I hit, or was all over it, hit the garbage can, made it in a few times, I think I hit the driver once, who was the groundskeeper for our team there, awesome guy, I'm blanking on his name.


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[Assistant] I never hit the stationary garbage. Never did it. I think I threw 30


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[Assistant] It was like, it was like, yeah, it was, you know, made of some games. I think it was more on like the dot com stuff where they ran it more than anything, right?


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[Assistant] Well, people don't realize behind me is the runway to the airport. We used to have built-in crowd noise. Cause every time a plane got on the...


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[Assistant] And all of a sudden you had to go to the silent count in the middle of practice. I mean, it was unbelievable.


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[Assistant] We were, same place. It was probably our last month in that spot before they moved to the one they're in now, the new facility, right? That's just, that's amazing. Oh my gosh.


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[Assistant] But not really? I mean... I don't know if that counts. I know.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, yeah, my attribute, I mean, my stats, wins, losses, everything like that are gonna be better.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I can sit here and say I was actually the better talent, but my career was better in college.


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[Assistant] Dad was telling me the other day, this is just how the NFL has changed. Because I get this sometimes, I was actually telling Dad this.


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[Assistant] Because the number one thing, we had a conversation about my dad in the Hall of Fame a little yesterday on PFT. And the number one thing I always get from friends or even on social media is people think my dad was a game manager. Cause they kind of see like, oh it was Bill Parcells and they ran the football and they did all that. Like, he really wasn't.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm not saying my dad is John Elway or anything like that, but...


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[Assistant] They were not a dink and dunk football team. You threw for 4,000 yards when people weren't doing that. No, right, right. It was like only, it was, so you threw for 4,000 yards in 1984, right? I mean, at that time, it was like Dan Marino and there was only a few people that were doing that.


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[Assistant] So they were a down the field throwing football team and, and even I think he had a four year run where nobody threw the ball more intended yards down the field other than Dan Marino. He was second and full. They, you can't find a five yard touchdown pass on my dad's highlight film. They didn't, there was no such thing. It was like they were run the ball.


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[Assistant] 20 yard in cut, 30 yard seam to borrow, 20 yard out route. That's all they did. Slant route? My dad didn't throw a slant route until year 14. Like he never threw a f***ing slant route. Three step drop did not exist on the New York Giants. You know, that was Joe Montana and all of them. They were the ones that were doing the cutting edge stuff like that. Uh, so, but my point was he went into a year


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[Assistant] I think it was 84, he said. They literally one of the year went,


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[Assistant] Listen, if we could throw for 52.6%, that was their goal. 52.6%. We're gonna be a hell of a football team. That was the goal. Did they hit it? They did, yeah. But I mean, I think his career completion percentage is like 55-56%. It's just that it was a different era.


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[Assistant] Like 70s, you know, mid 80s. I mean, Joe Montana retired as the highest rated quarterback in the history of football. In quarterback rating.


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[Assistant] So, but quarterback rating, like,


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[Assistant] Micro-analyzed even more. You know, no interceptions, we want to complete the ball more.


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[Assistant] The quarterbacks got better, offensive coordinators got better, the receivers got better, you know, the schemes themselves got more creative to get easier completions and all that thing. The rules got way easier on defense, or for the offense that made it harder on the defense. That was, that's probably the biggest thing, is that.


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[Assistant] So you could, my dad could be throwing a ball to Mark Bavaro 20 yards down the field. He hasn't thrown the ball yet. He's patting it in the pocket. Darryl Green could be still punching and pushing Mark Bavaro. It was not a penalty back then. You had good luck trying to come out of your break with that guy pushing you as you're doing it.


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[Assistant] That's a great one. Eat that, Pete. That might have been the best comeback yet. That might have been the best. If you're drinking with Tom Brady, it's probably, that's a really good one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was his list, uh, from the other day. You got Stafford at three?


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[Assistant] He has Stafford at three. Stafford's a famous beer drinker. I mean, he's pretty popular for his ability to throw him down. Yes.


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[Assistant] He just like, I think he likes the regular down to earth guy, you know, there's a video out there of like Stafford, we showed up in the last pod, he could chug a beer in like a second. He can just open his throat and go boop and he goes away.


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[Assistant] I can do it. I did, I made that proclamation last time. Chug contest? Well we could chug it tonight if you want. I was planning on going vodka, so if we chug vodka, watch out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, in a hurry, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's not his first rodeo, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] Definitely, maybe run from the cops, do that type of stuff, that'd be perfect.


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[Assistant] You'll see aliens in the air. You'll see it all in Baker. It's amazing. And he'll bring you into his house, you know, uh, the Cleveland Stadium there, where he's, you know, that's where he lives.


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[Assistant] That is a really valid point. In fact, Pete, you might have dropped the ball with that one. You're right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so Aaron, you're out. See you, Rogers. Uh, Pete just said he's taking, putting Tom Brady in. So that guy made the right appropriate point. Yeah. Brady is, he's, he's not gonna be good drunk. It's gonna be like liquid truth serum. He's all the sudden he's gonna tell you all the stories about, you know, Belichick and everything else.


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[Assistant] I like the, uh, little acknowledgement to the crowd. Listen, I've been drunk. Yeah. I've never been that drunk to where I needed somebody to, I mean, I've been really drunk before. Puked drunk. Yeah, of course. I mean, I haven't been like that unless I've gotten really drunk and then smoked weed. Right after.


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[Assistant] I mean that could, I agree with you, he's been in the sun the whole day too, like that's gonna help. The tipping of the boat. What I really envision happening is like they all park the boat, right? And now there's no media around or anything like that.


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[Assistant] And they were like, come on, let's throw some shots down, Tom. Let's do it right now. And Tom was like, nobody's around. Okay. And then they got off the boat. He's like, oh, I'm hammered. I, that's how I envisioned it going down. I mean, I don't know. I don't know, but I haven't been drunk like that. And like, I only get like that. Like I said, if I drank and then I smoke weed.


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[Assistant] The world goes. Then what happens? The world spins in every direction and I'm like, I'm gonna need somebody to walk next to me. Sounds like a bad idea. It is a bad idea. If I'm gonna do both.


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[Assistant] Right? And Drake has a song called, cause I'm both, he's drunk and high. You gotta do smoke first, then drink. Cause if you do it the other way around, you're asking to puke.


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[Assistant] Well yea, liquor before beer, you're in the clear. Beer before liquor, you'll never be sicker.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, Min Choo should replace, I think, Mac Jones or Burrow. That would probably be the guy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's alright. I like these. These are good like little food for thought. I guess Carson Palmer's career is better, but just because of like, I don't know if the quality is better.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is a good, these are the good questions where you go, okay, it's a little bit, here's longer, a little more, you know, consistent, and then here's another guy who, man, it was really great. Yeah. In a few years.


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[Assistant] I do think Andrew Luck probably had more high quality, high quality years. Like, I mean, borderline MVP caliber type years. There's no way his career numbers are gonna match up.


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[Assistant] With Carson Palmer, I mean Carson Palmer's at 46,000 yards, 294 touchdowns. Like you talked about early in the career, it was some really good numbers that way and everything like that. Uhm, Andrew Luck was what, 6 year career? We were right around there, right? I know, I gotta do the math in my head too.


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[Assistant] It's six. You're right. It is six, yeaah. I just, I got lucky.


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[Assistant] Right. One of the, I mean, gosh, the Colts had no business being in the championship game that year. That was crazy that they went to the game and they wouldn't beat the deflate gay game. They wouldn't be Denver in Denver, right? That was unbelievable.


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[Assistant] Andrew Luck was the better player. I'll say that. I mean, Andrew Luck, like you said, was on a Hall of Fame career. Carson Palmer was just, he's a legend of the NFL. Uh, alright, I'm with you. I'm gonna go with,


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[Assistant] No, I actually think it helps more times than not because the pressure's off. So now you can just go, wait, now I can play. Nobody's going to ask questions about me anymore.


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[Assistant] You know, to me, in those scenarios right there, I look at it again, where, I know I've talked about this, uh, it's, you know, the team has dropped the ball a little bit, it's just not that easy to go back and win quarter, you know, Super Bowls. We've all been misled by Tom Brady and the Patriots to think like, oh, it's not that big of a deal.


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[Assistant] You know, Bradshaw was what? Like year four. Joe, Joe was year three.


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[Assistant] You know, so you get into the quarterbacks that won two and three Super Bowls, you know, you win it early in the career not only is the pressure off, but also the confidence of going, what? I can do it. I can win a Super Bowl. I'm capable of being on the biggest stage in the sport and performing and being clutch and being awesome that way.


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[Assistant] So with like Rogers, you know, my thought there is...


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[Assistant] Yeaah. They've failed him. It's not him failing them.


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[Assistant] You know, Brett Farr, we could probably argue a little bit of both, and he was a gunslinger and cost himself some Super Bowls.


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[Assistant] Okay, good. That's good. Yeaah. I mean, without question, top ten quarterback of all time. Top five? I think top five too. I'm probably one of the only person that probably got it. You know, five or six is sometimes how I go through it. But yeaah, Pete's being funny.


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[Assistant] You've heard me. I go Rogers. I go Elway. I go Brady. I go Manning. And then when I get to five, I always go Marino and Favre. That's kind of where I always am like, man, I mean, it's awesome versus awesomerererer. I mean, they're both amazing. Right.


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[Assistant] Like, top ten? No, no doubt. I mean, there's no doubt. Yeah, was he a little careless with the football? Yeah. But he was also caught-


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[Assistant] It is what made Brett Brett exactly, and he was a little bit of the, in that old era where it was still like okay, he kind of caught both eras. He was kind of in the era of tooking over in the early 90s where it was like we don't worry about


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[Assistant] You know, the interception thing and everything like that until like the later to early late 90s early 2000s.


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[Assistant] No. I think, I think that should count for something. I, I agree. You know, you're right. They're running a Joe Montana offense with like a guy that's got, uh,


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[Assistant] Better skill set than Joe Montana. And you're right. They probably should have been running a little bit more of the Patrick Mahomes, whatever. We're going to like take advantage of that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so yeaah, didn't necessarily play into his strengths all the way that way. I mean, he's just, again, it's, it's, that's too amazing of a football player. It really is. And he had a lot of years too where he'd still sit there and I'd go, well, they're in the playoffs, they're not really that good. But it's number four.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that means scrambler, pocket passer and like you said


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[Assistant] You know, my dad has always said this, L.A. had the strongest arm ever.


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[Assistant] Then he saw Brett Farr when he went, I mean, he got done at the Brett Farr. It was like, I'll never see anybody throw the ball as good as Brett Farr. And then he went to.


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[Assistant] See Green Bay four years later and Aaron Rodgers there and he went, oh shit, I found somebody that throws the ball as good or better than Brett Favre. So, I mean, it's truly one of those talents and there's a reason he was on the NFL 100 team and picked by Bill Belichick and all of that. Exactly.


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[Assistant] You're the man, Paulie. Thanks a lot. Always good conversations. Thanks for making the environment that way. And speaking of Cycle, good luck of your Tour de France.


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[Assistant] So you're gonna have a phase of going to sleep at like 6 o'clock at night here.


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[Assistant] And we are still gonna do some pods. I'm still gonna react to news. I mean, you might see videos of me and Florio.


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[Assistant] But we're not going like dark for five or six weeks. We're going to have things out there every now and then. Yeah, I might be out of town. We might not do one. We got one on the can that we bring out, whatever, something like that, but.


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[Assistant] Uh, Chris Simms on button, not going anywhere. Paulie, you the man. Thanks for driving the ship all year. Appreciate it. We're gonna have fun tonight. Everybody be good out there, be safe.


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[Assistant] Love the questions. Thanks for listening to the podcast. We're looking for an awesome 2021, uh, season.


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[Assistant] It should be great. We got lots of stud quarterbacks, lots of things to talk about in the NFL, quarterback drama. So we're here. Keep in touch through social media. Stop saying bad things or mean things. Get over it. Grow as a person. All right. Peace out. See ya.


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[Assistant] I think the Panthers cover going the Cardinals over the Jags. I just think there's too many playmakers. I don't trust Trevor Lawrence. He's throwing picks every game so far. I just think the Titans are better. I don't care who plays for quarterback for the Colts. They can't protect. They haven't run the ball well either.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, that's right, that's right. Johnny the shark Christians on buttons on a heater. That's right, 6-0 the last two weeks in his best bets. Yeaah, 6-0. I think on the year now I'm actually


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[Assistant] Uh, I'm seven and two on my, you know, three weeks. So we've got to pick it. And one of those beats was the 49ers blowing a 38 to 10 lead, right? Where they got the two point conversion at the end, the Lions and making the eight point. Yeah. So I got backdoor covered there, but yeah, yeah, that's right. Johnny the sharks here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you got it. That's a great quote actually. Yeah, you're right. If you've done it, it ain't bragging. I used to have a friend in Tampa, Dwight Smith. Okay. Who was really like my, one of my best friends on the football team. Dwight like was awesome dude, inner city Detroit.


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[Assistant] I mean, always kept it real. Didn't matter who it was. Like, it didn't matter if it was Gruden or anybody. He was going to give you a straight answer, right? And let you know. And people love that about him. So just to your point, so we were going out one night and, you know, I'm rookie year or whatever.


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[Assistant] He used to wear his jersey to the club. His own jersey. His own jersey. And sometimes backward. No! He'd go...


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[Assistant] Below average quarterback play, but man, a good day again, you know, in the NFL just never lacks surprises.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, the Chiefs, the way they lost, that's just still a shocker. They're sitting there at one and two.


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[Assistant] You know, could easily be 3 and 0. You look at the Baltimore Ravens who are sitting there at 2 and 1, you go, they could easily be 0 and 3. Easily. I mean, easily. It's just amazing in the NFL, and it just, it proves to everybody, I hope.


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[Assistant] Just how close the league is. That is not about just one person always and everything. It's, it, the league, the NFL is unreal and you're seeing some of the best teams and the worst teams, they're just not that big of a gap.


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[Assistant] We're good. Well, Chris Sims presented by Under Armour. We do want to get that out there. The only way is through, right? But yes, I mean, Under Armour, come on, love it. We're doing a get in a segment on football night in America last night with Under Armour, with Under Armour sponsoring my little like breakdown.


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[Assistant] Right? Pretty cool. You had like seven breakdowns last night, by the way. I did, I did have some breakdowns. I must have missed that one. They liked me this week in the control room. Yea, they did. Yea. And, uh, even get a little segment of In the Weeds on the Peacock post-game show.


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[Assistant] Uh, where we get in the, in this Under Armour Sponsors Act, where I break down something even a little more in depth. Yeah, yeah. We're giving Under Armour their money's worth. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, special. I mean, you know, I did a few little breakdowns of that game last week and really thought like that they want to win the football game, the Green Bay Packers. It's going to have to be Aaron Rodgers throwing the football outside the numbers.


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[Assistant] I did a whole thing for AWS on Thursday where we broke it down. To me, that was the spot where they could take advantage. You got a really strong arm quarterback in Aaron Rodgers. The weakness of the 49ers, as you heard Collinsworth and Al Michaels explain so many times last night, is the corner position. And they, they exhausted it, you know.


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[Assistant] That's the one thing I love about Green Bay. You know, I do love this and I know I'm not as high on Devonte Adams as the rest of the world at times, but I do love watching their relationship. They are like next level, like they can look at each other and I think think like I know what he's thinking. I know what Rowdy wants. So I do appreciate that.


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[Assistant] And I appreciate them just going back to the well being like, no, he's.


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[Assistant] Good. We're gonna keep drawing plays up for him. And this guy throwing the ball is really good too. And let's just see if you can stop it.


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[Assistant] I know, I know, and this is, it changed me. To see the way they won that game, you know, I think there's, man, there's a lot of things that jump out to me. First thing I'll say is Joe Barry on the defensive side of the ball, the coordinator for the Packers.


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[Assistant] Great game plan. You know, a lot of, a lot of different defenses early. You know, he knows Shanahan. They, we were all together down in Tampa at one point.


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[Assistant] He studied them. He knew, I can't get into a routine of, oh, when they're in this formation, I'm going to play this defense. Or when they're in this personnel, because Shanahan's a master at that. So once he figures it out, he starts to dissect it. And I don't think he ever let him get in a groove.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, again, the 49ers offense is super talented, but to me, overall, the win of the night was still Green Bay. The fact that the 49ers couldn't score any points in the first half until a big kick return before the end of the halftime, you know, right before halftime, that to me was a victory in itself.


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[Assistant] The Green Bay Packers should have been up more than 17-0. Let's not forget they got stopped on a fourth and one on like the four yard line, right? So they could have kicked a field goal there.


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[Assistant] But 49ers, this is where they're, you know, they're the ultimate four quarter, like the game is never over with San Francisco. And that's what I respect about them. They're tough as hell, but you know,


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[Assistant] I think just the physicality and toughness of Green Bay, they protected Rogers pretty good for the most part of the night. They ran the ball with a little, not that it was like, whoa. It was enough. Enough, right? Just enough to where you went 49ers, they gotta respect it.


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[Assistant] And I think that, that makes me think differently about them, especially without no Bakhtiari, no Elking Jenkins. And then the main thing being Rodgers and Adams. I mean, just going, they're not good out there. They play a lot of looks. They play quarters and single safety defenses that really end up being like man to man on the outside. And the stats don't even tell the truth here.


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[Assistant] 12 for 132 doesn't tell it because there's four penalties for 86 yards in the San Francisco 49ers and they're almost, I believe every yard of it is past interference.


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[Assistant] Here's a great little graphic of just how they used Devonte Adams, move him around, and I mean, look at that, right? Outside to inside, right and left. You can't, you can't really get a break on what he's doing, you know? You know, he's in the slot, he goes in, he goes out, he's outside, he goes in, he goes out, he goes in deep enough to, to make you think there, and then,


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[Assistant] 35 yards in the air over like, you know, one of the best linebackers in football and Fred Warner. First off, just have the guts to go, wait, that guy's there. Oh man. And then, you know, again, I think as ex-quarterbacks, you and me can appreciate it for, like you're saying, it's a 30, 35 yard throw.


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[Assistant] And to me, the thing that I look at more than anything in these, these things is it's going to change defenses and it's going to then lead to other people getting touches because now people are going to go, well, shit, you know, we kind of wanted to play our defense's scheme and not change things up.


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[Assistant] But damn, they're doing, Adams and Rogers are so on fire, we're going to have to tweak some things. We're going to have to maybe show him some extra coverage love on third downs or certain form, you know, certain formations. And then that's going to make defenses do things to stop him and it's going to open up everybody else. I'm big into.


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[Assistant] Went to the well, you know, too many times with those guys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, listen, I think that was a big game for Matt LaFleur. I could tell just by the emotions on the sidelines. Hey, they got screwed over with some calls.


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[Assistant] Hey, even before the end of the first half, right, they scored the touchdown with Trey Lance. The play before was grounding. That should have been called. That should have been now third in...


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[Assistant] 20 from the goal line. So, but yes, I can't say enough about Matt LaFleur. I mean, they showed, like I said, some toughness.


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[Assistant] You know, the ability to kind of like abandon maybe what they really want to do sometimes within their offense and go, no, this is what we got to do this week to win the football game. And they did, they outplayed the 49ers. There's no doubt about that.


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[Assistant] I still have worries about the Niners. In some ways. What's your biggest one? Well, again, I know like Jimmy G was good at the end of the football game, but there's just too many moments of stagnant, like,


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[Assistant] And what I always say, you know, there you go at the end of the first half. They do nothing in the first half. Green Bay's defense is good. Don't get me wrong, but it's not, we're not going to 85 bears yet. All right. It's going to be a.


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[Assistant] I'm not sold that when Shanahan's run game and things can't dominate, that I trust Jimmy G to carry you through, like we've talked about many times over the last year and a half.


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[Assistant] There's definitely that aspect, but I think what you have to be scared about too. First off, you have a 49ers defense that you know is really good. So I think the ultimate thing is they're looking at, let's make them go as far as they gotta go. Squib kips are not guaranteed to get down there inside the 20. So where I think Shanahan and company were probably looking at it and go, we hit a squib kick.


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[Assistant] And it takes the wrong bounce and they recover to the 35 yard line.


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[Assistant] That one completion he makes, the first one, they're already in field goal range right there. So I think that's where I'm not going to fault Kyle from there. I think I, the defense, they had some momentum going at that point and I think he was going, let's just kick it down there, rally, make a tackle, and make Rodgers go as far as we


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[Assistant] To your point when we just talked about with Devonte Adams, right? It's been so Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup, and then what happens yesterday?


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[Assistant] Deshaun Jackson over the top a bunch of times. Teams are so worried about, damn, Stafford and McVay and Cooper Cup are tearing people up in 5, 10, 15 yard throws. We're going to play some defenses to stop that. There's Deshaun Jackson at 39 years old. He's still got two rockets up his ass. It's unreal.


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[Assistant] I mean, it really is. I can't say enough about the Rams and the way they looked yesterday. Outstanding, isn't it? Right? My gosh. They never...


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[Assistant] To me, the biggest thing is, they never win these games in years past. With, like, against a really awesome defense like the Bucs, when they can't run the ball in the bootleg. And now it's just like, oh, so what? It's not working.


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[Assistant] We'll still, you know, sprinkle in some runs right here, but we got this guy and McVeigh's now got a bunch of other plays that he's adding to the, the playlists and that's where they're scary. So that was a big, big time win and Cooper Cup is amazing right now.


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[Assistant] Run the ball and go over power, uh, the Rams that way. And then, you know, they didn't run the ball many times. So that's one thing I want to go back and look at to go why, you know, I have a feeling Raheem Moore has probably loaded the box a few times and gave them some bastard looks of being like, we got a lot of people in here. Do you really want to run it? And then they drop back.


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[Assistant] But they also, I thought, found a lot of ways to rush four and five and just be around Brady a lot as the game went along.


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[Assistant] You know, that's the other thing that I noticed, and we know it. There's one flaw with Brady right now in his game, is you start to get people around him, he'll miss some throws, and panic a little bit. And that was something that jumped out.


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[Assistant] I, I, you know, Pete knows what I, I think about. They're, they're just to me still too over, over aggressive. You're, you're too talented to be rushing five and playing so much man to man all the time. You know, there was a number of plays, especially during the game where they were pick plays, you know, things that Dallas did to,


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[Assistant] Tampa in week one where I just, you know, there's certain formations and certain things where you just can't play man to man. Like just think of the, like the end zone play, uh, with Cooper Cup. He gets the easy, like little pick touchdown.


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[Assistant] The way they play it and defend it, they don't even have to go out of their way to like make the pick happen. It's a bunch to the left, Cooper cups the inside of the three, and they're playing man to man, three on three. The two outside guys just run straight. All they did is run straight.


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[Assistant] And the guy on the inside trying to cover Cooper Cup, now he can't get through those two defenders as those receivers just run upfield a little bit. They don't even go like, let me go find the guy to pick him. It's literally like, we're going to go up straight.


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[Assistant] And he's gonna have a hard time fighting through the trash here. And that to me is something that's jumped out, uh, about that. And it's something that I think all year long we gotta watch. It's just Todd Bowles, can he contain himself from being a hair too over a


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[Assistant] I just think they're too smart of a group down there. You know, I think Aryans and everybody, they'll get a feel for what they, what they need to do or the adjustments they need to make. You know, don't forget they're missing a few people in the secondary too, right?


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[Assistant] You know, uh, what's his name? 35. Uh, the kid from Auburn. I always blank on his damn name. He got hurt yesterday. Uh, there is no, uh, the corner who got hurt in the week one.


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[Assistant] Uhm, damn, I'm blanking on his name, 35. They both, uh, they had a couple of Auburn corners there. Jamel Dean, thank you very much. Damn it, yeaah. So, so that, that, that, you know, they're not a full strength there either. Uh, but that is definitely a game that,


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, and, you know, again, it's, it goes back to our old thing that you and I talk about a lot. He just, he's got some support.


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[Assistant] He's got answers against everything. It's not always on him to, hey, hang in there and nobody's open and we can't run and we can't protect, but we'd like you to throw 25 yard lasers, reverse downs all game. Like, oh, okay, coach, no problem. I mean, that's what he's known. And now he's like, wait, I, I, uh,


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[Assistant] Whoa, let me look at Robert Woods and get everybody to collapse. And then there goes Deshaun Jackson wide open. I mean, he's getting to play a style of football that he's just never been, never had the luxury to do. And I think now.


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[Assistant] Everybody's gonna see that Matt Stafford is one of the best quarterbacks in football. That's plain and simple. It's just too talented.


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[Assistant] And now he's got a team around him and that's where they're good.


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[Assistant] Last thing I want to say about the Bucks too, just sloppy too. Penalties, just a little bit all over, over aggressive. That's certainly hurt them in moments, but that's something that's hurt them, I think, a little bit in all three games that have made games closer than maybe they'd like or, you know, of course not winning yesterday.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, Mike Williams is special. He's a top ten receiver in football. The way he can run, the size, everything there. You know, and he's one of those guys, Paul, as you know, big receiver, like, it just doesn't matter if he's covered. It's like, oh, okay, well, you know, if I just put it in the right spot, he'll go up and get it and beast whoever it is.


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[Assistant] Just look at him and throw the ball and he's probably going to score a touchdown. But Mahomes tries to do no look and ends up being a foot or two behind the guy and it gets picked.


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[Assistant] And now, okay, we should be up, we're not up, it's 0-0, they make a stop, they go right down the field again, and Tyree Kill catches a ball over the middle, close quarters, takes three steps, boom, somebody knocks the ball out. All of a sudden you're going, damn, we've kind of executed well.


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[Assistant] And we should be winning, and we're in a 0-0 football game. Oh, in fact, now we're about to go down 6-0.


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[Assistant] And that's where, you know, the chiefs have just been sloppy like that the last two weeks.


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[Assistant] I guess, I don't know, they're both been amazing. I guess I'm, I'm more happy for Stafford right now just because it's been years of just everybody like, oh you can't win a playoff game. It's his fault. It's none of the other 52 guys there or the coaches there. It's just his fault. So I'm happy for him. But like, Herbert's just special. Like again, this is,


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[Assistant] This is why he was neck and neck with Joe Burrow coming out in the draft in my opinion. You know, he just, he's got a calmness and a maturity about him to where he just never seems flustered. You know, as you and I were talking before we started the podcast, he never loses control of the football.


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[Assistant] Every ball is a perfect spiral and pretty much right where he wants it.


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[Assistant] No doubt. When he drops back, you just go, well, it's almost, you know, it's like the great quarterbacks in football. You just go, well, where's he going to get a 15 yard completion from here? He's going to hit somebody. Watch out.


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[Assistant] They're gonna strike. And you know, I just again, I think the second year in a system, a new system and the fact that that seems to be seamless, he's obviously an incredibly bright guy to do that.


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[Assistant] Really be phased either. You know, and the big thing is like,


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[Assistant] The first two weeks he threw some bad interceptions in the fourth quarter or late in the game down there in the red zone. Corrects that yesterday and does nothing but just make great decisions and great throws in the red zone to help them win the football game. But do I sit here and just go


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[Assistant] Do I think they're the better team than the Chiefs right now? No, I don't. I'm not gonna say that yet. I'm not.


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[Assistant] To me, you know, there we were in a one score game and it was a 4-0 turnover battle. Like the Chiefs turned the ball over four times and we're still there toe to toe. You know, I didn't even get to, yeah, Mahomes stupid interception, Tyree Kill fumble, Clyde Edwards Hilaire fumble the next freaking drive or maybe it was the drive in between there.


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[Assistant] Man, those mistakes, then the game being 24-all in the fourth quarter, and Mahomes gonna make that kind of throw down the middle of the field? Like, listen, I know, it's hard to criticize him because all we do is see him do it all the time.


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[Assistant] He needs to check himself before he wrecks himself right now a little bit and go, wait, I don't have all my mojo. Maybe I need to play just a little bit closer to the vest here right now and I'm not going to get away with some of the stuff he did.


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[Assistant] Brandon Staley, the one thing I love about him is he will do outside the box, like, you haven't seen us do this, and we're gonna play this defense today on third down. We haven't done it in any game yet, and here we go, you got a plan. But like, hey, it's two weeks in a row.


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[Assistant] To me where it's a little concerning that they, you know, again, like, okay, Cleveland with their defense and you know, they're going to play the same coverage all the time. They got him open.


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[Assistant] But now it's Ravens changed things up a little bit. Chargers are a little different. And to me just, you can't go and like five touches for Tyree Kill is not enough. Right? He's the most dangerous guy in football with the ball in his hand.


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[Assistant] Like they gotta find more of a screen game, the speed sweeps, whatever it is, to me they're, that, that, that, to, to kinda jump start it.


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[Assistant] It's, the strength of the team is Mahomes, Hill and Kelsey.


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[Assistant] And they gotta exhaust all angles to get them the ball. I know they ran the ball well yesterday, did some things there that are real positive that'll maybe get some people to come up, you know, again. It's still, I think they gotta tinker with just finding more ways to get people to come up so they can start bombing away to Tyree Kill again. And right now, nobody totally wants to respect that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, crazy. It's alright. I'm not panicked yet. I'm not. I just still think there's too much talent on the football team. I think, like I said, it's, it's, it's, it's self mistakes more than anything. You know, I know they're not playing perfect football. Their defense has been definitely a little concerning. There's no doubt.


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[Assistant] And there they were yesterday. They just thought, you know, hey, we'll show up and put on a show and step on the gas pedal and we'll show the Chargers who's boss. And they get like too cocky and complacent.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna sit here and look just before I clarify this comment. Buffalo is the best team in the AFC. Buffalo is the best team in the AFC. They had no business losing week one to Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] No, I'm going to make Cleveland 2 probably and then KC3 right now. That's probably what I would do. That's a good question though. I'm glad you said that because I was like, oh wait, where am I going to put them? Um, but yeah, I just look at Buffalo and go, scary.


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[Assistant] Because the defense is real. Special teams are real. The offense sputtered the first two weeks.


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[Assistant] And watch out, now they got a little momentum in week two against Miami. It wasn't pretty even though they won 35-nothing. And now this, this week here, you know, just to me, it's showing that like, they're not going to have to just depend on Josh Allen to win every game. They can do it anyway, but if man, if the offense is playing like it did yesterday,


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[Assistant] You know, I don't think he can be so vanilla and just think, wait, we're gonna be sound and let our front four get after people and we just won't blow any coverage in the background. I think he's gonna have to start, you know, dialing up maybe some more creative pressures, coverages that way. But like, you know, Alan yesterday, it just, some of the plays and throws


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[Assistant] You know, Rodney last night on our Peacock show, he said Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the AFC. And I went, like first off, I was like, it's my boy Boo. I'm just happy to hear him say that.


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[Assistant] You know, the more I thought about it, I just went, I mean, right now, he might be. I mean, it's him and Mahomes are definitely special. And to me, Herbert's right there too. Thank you very much. You're exactly right. He is right there with him too. Uh, but I think again, what separates Josh Allen is just a few of the plays you saw yesterday. Like nobody's there.


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[Assistant] And okay, move up in the pocket, bounce out to the outside, and then shoo!


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[Assistant] Whoa, there's vapor trails, like Keith, 30 yard completion, touchdown, back shoulder throw.


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[Assistant] It's just unreal. That's where it's unreal. And then they got a little bit of a run game. Just enough.


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[Assistant] And they're protecting pretty well all three weeks. I know even in the Pittsburgh game, I know he got stripped, sacked, fumbled, and hit a few times. If you go back and watch, he had all day some of those plays. He just got greedy and waited all day for somebody to get open. But yeaah, I would say watch out for Buffalo because I think now they got the offense rolling, they're gonna be an SOB.


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[Assistant] No, it, it is great and, and you know, hey, like we've talked about, it's hard to play a team like Pittsburgh to start the year. Cause they just are so crazy on defense. So you're like, damn, it's our first game. Especially when Watt's playing. And Watt was playing. Right. So that.


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[Assistant] Miami, yea, wasn't pretty last week. You know, but Miami, they got off, their defense played good, they jumped off to a start, and then they didn't really have to, like,


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[Assistant] I think they made enough plays and did some things so they went, okay, we're on the right track. And then we saw it yesterday. So yeah, that's right. Damn. Okay. Buffalo's here. My boy blue giddy up giddy up.


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[Assistant] I mean, of course, I picked the guy to win the NFL defense MVP the last three years. Now, in the year I didn't, I finally got off and he's going to win it. Uh, but yeaah, he just


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[Assistant] He's, he's a freak of nature. You know, you saw the sacks too. There was a few that were the traditional, just beat a guy off the edge. There's, you know, a few that are just like,


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[Assistant] Hey, it's a bootleg and he runs somebody down. I mean, he can just, he can do everything. I mean, he's one of those humans where you see him in person and you go, oh my gosh, that's Miles Garrett. No wonder he was the first pick. Like he just jumps out to you that way.


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[Assistant] You know, so, yeah, unbelievable performance by the Cleveland defense. Hey, Chicago defense played good too. Yeah. It's just, you know, when you're on the play on the field, every fourth play, the whole game, it's, it's hard to, you're going to be going to break at some point.


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[Assistant] He was like, I thought they were going to move, we were expecting them to move Justin Fields more.


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[Assistant] From what I saw, there was like out of the four and a half sacks, there was definitely a few, there was two sacks I think that was just him beating Peters, you know, man up.


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[Assistant] Then there was a few others where it looked like they slid his way and...


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[Assistant] You know, he kinda had a fight and there was nobody open and then Justin Fields started to escape and he got him down that way. And I do think there was one other one that was like kind of a...


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[Assistant] With as athletic as he is, it doesn't like, first off, just the run bootleg thing is gonna be crucial. I didn't, I don't even think I saw much of that on first and second down. Way too much shotgun and just empty, or four wides with one back next to him. Okay, that's fine too, but like,


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[Assistant] Again, let's get some people moving pre-snap. Put them under center. Put them under, quarterback design runs. That's where I wanted to see more than anything. Not that you have to like exhaust it to like beat your quarterback up.


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[Assistant] But to have a few to make Cleveland go, wait, oh okay.


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[Assistant] Like, woah, woah, we can't just pin our ears back, he's not gonna just be there.


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[Assistant] Woah, they pulled two, they pulled both guards out to the right, and they had a tail back in front of them, and he followed up on that. And then, you know, okay, the next play, it's something similar to that, and it looks like we're gonna do it, and maybe he gives it to a speed sweep coming out the other side. You know, again, play off of him, his speed is his greatest strength right now.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, and then underneath center, just yeaah, play actions. Again, play action pass, get him deep in the pocket, he's protected, that slows down the pass rush. It also gets the quarterback great distance behind the line of scrimmage to open up rushing lanes in case he wants to run. Could have been his best friend yesterday. I know, I just, that's where, again, I want to go back and watch it tightly.


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[Assistant] But, or more closely, but I, I just, to me it was like, oh, Justin Fields is in, let's run the same offense we've been running with Andy Dalton and Nick Falls. I know that's looked like, but let's just do it anyway.


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[Assistant] It seems impossible. Yeaah, it's embarrassing. How does that happen? Against a Brown's defense that we've seen the Texans and Chiefs have their way with. Yeaah. Right? So yeaah, I just...


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[Assistant] It's lack of creativity. There is not top end playmakers on the offensive side of the ball, but ultimately I think that's what it comes down to. And then I felt like in moments, you know, as the game went on, he got gun shy too. You know, again, they, they got to do better around Justin Fields. Justin Fields.


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[Assistant] I'm still, you know me, I got my eye on his throwing still. I do think there was a few times he dropped back and he doesn't trust his throwing so he doesn't pull the trigger. Right. So those are things I want to go back and watch on film to go, wait, is my eye right when I was watching that on TV, you know, at one o'clock with a bunch of games? There was some of that, but either way, underwhelming offensive approach. I just, I was so excited to like,


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[Assistant] You know, that's, that's where it bothers me, and that's where also I, I, this, it, it like, leads me again to...


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[Assistant] Them wanting to hold out fields to me was a political play. To just, oh well, he wasn't ready so wait for next year so I can save my job for one more year and play that angle. That's what it always looked to me and when you come out with that type of game plan, I don't know, I just, I kind of feel...


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[Assistant] The, the New England got dominated up front. Like they couldn't run the ball, they couldn't protect the ball very well.


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[Assistant] I mean, protect the passer very well. I was a little surprised by that. I know New Orleans defensive front is mean and nasty. They can overpower people. But man, I'm a big fan of the Patriots front. I mean, they've been able to run the ball pretty much the last two years and just about anybody they want.


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[Assistant] And they usually can protect the passer to a degree to where you can go, well, they can, they can execute their offense.


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[Assistant] They got overwhelmed from, from that standpoint. They really did. The Saints, I mean, I think the score's even a little misleading. They dominated the game more than 28-13. It was 21-13 at the end there. You know, you never felt like the Patriots were really gonna win the football game. You're going, man, maybe if a miracle happens. But the Patriots, it's...


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[Assistant] You know, man, it's just not, stuff we're not used to seeing them do, too. You know, and again, I know a lot of people go, we're not used to seeing the Patriots do this. I'm going to go, well, a lot of these guys are new Patriots. They're not used to Patriot football.


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[Assistant] Like, miscommunication on just simple routes, like the, even the second, the second pick, or, you know, the pick six by Malcolm Jenkins.


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[Assistant] You know, like, Jono Smith looked like he was a little in between of, do I stop? Do I continue to go? I'm not sure where they're, they're just that, the block pun. You know, uh, that, that, that,


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[Assistant] You know, it was another moment. You know, there's been some penalties in the first few weeks where I just go, man, the Patriots never do that type of stuff.


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[Assistant] There's one or two other things that I can't quite remember either. What was the other pick? Uhm, I know you had the PJ Williams one. What happened on the PJ Williams one? I can't remember. But either way, yeaah, I guess it's the mistakes.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the inability to totally dominate in the run game, which I thought they would really be able to do. And the last thing I'll say with the Patriots is...


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[Assistant] They just, they need to find a way to make a play. Somebody's gotta take a little, not every drive can be 13 plays, 75 yards, 15 plays. Like, it's just too hard to play like that in the NFL. Right? Maybe if you got Brady, your quarterback. But you don't now. But you don't. You got a rookie quarterback. So you gotta manufacture some ways to take a little pressure off of him and Josh McDaniels to, to, to, you know, make life a little easier.


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[Assistant] Mac, like, I still saw a lot of good, you know. The one thing I'll say about Mac that I think jumps, like,


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[Assistant] Can he make, you know, the occasional splash play?


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[Assistant] You know, that, that's gonna be the thing I think to, to watch, like, where, and again, I, I don't wanna be too critical of any of these rookie quarterbacks. They're in tough spots, and they, they really are, all of them are. But yeah, I think that's what I look at as like,


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[Assistant] Okay, wait, you know, pockets broke down. All right. You, you know, you got a little room to throw. Can you make a big throw 30 or 40 yards down the field with people around you into pretty tight coverage? And that's where I guess it's just a little lack of the jaw dropping plays or the, wow. Ooh, that was, that was good. The, the defense won.


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[Assistant] But Max still got a 25 yard gain. And that's where, that's where people drop the ball on Brady a lot of the times. Like even, you know, when I was even negative with Brady in New England or whatever, Brady's arm


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[Assistant] Is another level up from a Mac Jones or anybody else to where Brady could make those. Oh, uh, people are collapsed. The defense won. I could still throw a 30 yard laser to gronk down the seam. No problem. That's what I need to see a little bit more from, from Mac Jones, at least to the least in my assessment.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, they got a really good front seven. I mean, the Broncos got it rolling on defense. I think, you know, it's been nice that they've gotten to play two rookie quarterbacks the last two weeks too, right? That does help, help things out. You know, but,


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[Assistant] Well, like that, that stat line tells you something right there. Which one? Alexander Johnson, when you talk about two, he's the middle linebacker.


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[Assistant] So what's that tell you? It tells you they're bringing up some blitzes where, again, this is what I've seen from them three weeks in a row. The Jets have gotten a little exposed in their pass protection all three weeks. Not just like mono-e-mono, wait this guy gotta beat me. That happens, yes.


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[Assistant] Hey, he's trying to win a football game too. He's not just going to go, well, I'll take another sack. Oh, it's 14 nothing. Oh, I'll take another sack. It's 21 nothing. Oh, I'll take another sack and it's 35 nothing. He's trying to go down swinging and he's under pressure. They got no run game.


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[Assistant] So he tries to throw a few balls that you don't love. You know, his two interceptions yesterday, there was the one stupid one. At the one at the end of the game,


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[Assistant] You know, again, Braxton, I can't remember who that was. It would have been Barrios right over the middle. You know, you'd like him to catch that ball. He's again under pressure running up in the pocket. So life's not easy. And you know, Denver's got a good defense and good balance on offense and they're


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[Assistant] Listen, you can go to superstars. They start getting like lack of protection like that. They're gonna start to make stupid decisions and peak like you're talking about. Knock them out of rhythm. Let alone a rookie quarterback.


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[Assistant] Exactly, that's what I mean. Draw back and just start running. Yeaah, just start running. Because you assume you're gonna have to. You assume you're gonna have to. Oh wait, there was a guy open underneath, but damn, I was under pressure the last six plays in a row, so I just felt like, play seven, I was gonna be under pressure too. It starts to affect everything. You're 100% right.


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[Assistant] You know, too many people right now are trying to write the


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[Assistant] Mack Jones and company are a work in progress. We know the Bears offense sucks. Let's just let it play out a little bit. Let's not write their story and their career here after week three. You know, again, I'm more into just the look. Trevor Lawrence looks good. Zach Wilson looks the part to me, the way he moves and the ball flies off his hand.


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[Assistant] They're gonna have a lot of days that look like yesterday. Get used to it, jet fans. You can't run the ball. You got nobody to be really scared of at receiver on the outside. Right? You got a ton of injuries. You're learning new systems on both sides of the ball. This is what it's gonna look like. I'm sorry. That's all I can really say there.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, it goes back to like a little bit when we talked about that second level.


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[Assistant] of cardinals is with Simmons, Hicks, uh, you know, um, the damn Byron Murphy who got the pick six. I mean, they got, they got, they got ballers. That's what you realize about Arizona. It's still not like the cleanest game in the world at times, you know, that they,


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[Assistant] Seem to give up big plays or have moments of like, man, what the hell is the offense doing? How can they not move the ball on Jacksonville three, four series in a row?


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[Assistant] They're a little bit like the Chiefs where all of a sudden they just explode and you go, oh my gosh, woah.


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[Assistant] I'll say, whoa, they're down 1910 and all of a sudden their focus is back and it was five plays, 75 yards, touchdown.


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[Assistant] And then it is, you know, Trevor Lawrence, I think they tried, that was when they tried to throw the, uh, flea flicker. And he kind of just cat, you know, hey, just cause it was open all week in practice, don't mean it's going to be open in the game. You can't just, so, and then all of a sudden it's like,


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[Assistant] Whoa, we were up 19 to 10 and now we're down 24-19. And then you got the sense that Jacksonville had no chance after that. The Arizona kind of just took all the momentum of the football game. But, uh, there is a lot of talented players on the Arizona team. One for nine on third down again yesterday for Kyler Murray. You know me, that's one of my themes of the year for them to watch out for.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be shocked if we see this a little all year long with Arizona. Games where we go, eh, uuuh. But man, they made these five or six plays and found some way to win it. They do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's get on there. The good and the bad. What do you think?