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[Assistant] At the Jaguars, which is London, over under 46. Which London stadium is it being played at, guys? Do you guys know? I think it's Wembley. It is Wembley? I don't know, I don't know, but I think it's Wembley. Okay, so, uh, go ahead, Slugger. What do you want to, uh, where do you want to start in that one?


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[Assistant] Let's call it, uh, the Wanker Bowl every time they're in London. Wanker Bowl 28.


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[Assistant] I mean, that is really a lot of ways how I look at the Texans too. I mean, they're one of the few teams I really evaluate only, you know, one of the factors I take into is Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] You know, just his ability, yes, overcomes schemes and things like that very often. This is a tough game to pick in my opinion. It really is. This Texans defense.


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[Assistant] You know, I would now know J.J. Watt. You talked about they're kind of a banged up football team. It worries me. I think the Jaguars have kind of found their stride on the offensive side of the ball, certainly been running the ball well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, with no JJ Watt, you know, the Texans are going to hurt with their run defense in general. I worry about that Texans pass defense. And I know you've, you've heard me say that I've been saying this for the last few weeks and Minshew.


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[Assistant] And some of the weapons they got down there. You know, DJ Shark, hey, he's a superstar in the making.


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[Assistant] Uh, him with Dee Dee and everything there. And then, you know, the Jaguars, I give them another advantage in this aspect where I go, yeah, they're, you know, to what Doug Marrone said, they're, they're used to this London trip.


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[Assistant] They're a little more prepared. I do give them a little bit of a, you know, favorite just because of that and their, their experience with this trip altogether. And to your Deshaun Watson point and factor, which I always take in just like you.


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[Assistant] I don't know if this is one of the teams he can like take over against. They do have great front seven speed. They might be able to make life hard against him.


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[Assistant] And this is one of the toughest games of the week for me to pick, okay? I'm going with the upset here. I'm going Jaguars, 20 to 17.


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[Assistant] I was really back and forth between this game. I don't know, but ultimately what gave me the last thought is just the Jaguars, uh, the Jaguars experience on the trip, like I said.


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[Assistant] The field plays a little slow at times over there in England, okay? And I feel like that hurts Deshaun Watson and his ability to scramble and do things like that. And I'm worried about the Texans with no J.J. Watt now.


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[Assistant] There's no superstar on that defense that you worry about and I'm going with the Jags to make things really interesting in the AFC and certainly make life interesting for the Texans in general.


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[Assistant] I get it. This will not be one of my best bets, I can say that much. To me it is a little coin-flipish right there, and I totally understand your Deshaun Watson point. Uhm, okay, let's go back to the United States of America, one o'clock games. Redskins, Bills, up in Buffalo.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Redskins, Bills, Bills coming off the loss against the Eagles, 31-13, they lost. Game was closer than that score shows. Uh, Bills favored by 9.5 at home, over and under 37, so the experts aren't expecting a real tight football game here. Uh, go ahead, Mike, lead it off.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, I know, and we don't know, we just, we know Dwayne Haskins might star, right? There's nothing there, I just want to make sure I didn't miss any news this morning, or...


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[Assistant] No, I'm, I'm with you either way. I don't think my thought would change. Maybe if I knew it was Dwayne Haskins, maybe I'd give the Redskins a little less points. I'll say that. Now, what we saw, hey, extra time by the Redskins, yep, we got all that, of course. We saw the Redskins defense, you know, again.


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[Assistant] And I know you and I have both kind of said this, they're no joke. They're not like a pushover. They're well coached. They're front four. It's good.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's got some depth, some versatility, it's talent, especially the starters when you get to the Alabama duo and then some of the guys they got on the edge.


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[Assistant] So, I think they can hang around and be a pain in the ass for the Bills offense for a little bit, a little while. Ultimately, I don't think the Redskins offense is going to be able to do enough either. My score very similar. You know, I think the Bills kind of just grind it out and kind of just


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[Assistant] Kind of slowly put the Redskins out of their misery in this football game. I'm going 24 to 13. I do look at the Bills to bounce back.


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[Assistant] Josh Allen, you know, had the fumble last week, did some good things. You know, I still believe in the Bills. I'm certainly not giving up on them by any stretch of the imagination.


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[Assistant] You know, the weather and the elements last week were a big deal up in Buffalo.


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[Assistant] In that game, uh, like I said, it was closer than 31 to the 13, but either way, I like the Bills to get back on track with this game and yes, win by 11 and, uh, and I would hit the over-under directly and barely, uh, but Bills covering just like you. All right. You got anything more to say before we move into the next one?


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I don't want you to change your mind. I just want you to want to know if there's something else you thought about that was- No, you want me to change my mind.


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[Assistant] No, I ain't seeing any ghosts, man. I'm gonna ride this. I'm on a heater, as you would say. Yes, heater, baby. Alright, Titans, Panthers. Panthers got their ass whooped by the 49ers. 49ers shoved that gold thing they dig for gold with right up their ass, alright? Titans!


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[Assistant] That gold thing they dig for gold. You know, what is that, a pitchfork? Is that what they use? It's not a gold thing. Not a pitchfork. Yea, a pitchfork. Yea, known as a pitchfork. Yes.


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[Assistant] So, Titans coming off their victory, uh, last week against the Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] We hang out too much. Okay, we do. I'm picking the Twighton Titans 20 to 16. So I'm, I'm, I'm, you're giving them an extra field goal, but, but I'm with a lot of the same thoughts. Uh, all right. So the first thing I think that needs to be recognized, the Titans defense, they got it going right now. I mean, they're, they're, they're no joke.


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[Assistant] I mean, when you just look at the way they've played, you know, really since the Falcons game, letting up 10 points, Bill's 14 points, Broncos 16 points, Chargers 20 points, Buccaneers 23, and the Buccaneers, they're a dangerous offense.


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[Assistant] You know, I look at that secondary, okay, the way they're coached with Dean Pease, they can match up, play man to man, do creative things there. I think that's advantage tightens to where, yeah, they can like load the box a little bit to stop Christian McCaffrey in the run game.


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[Assistant] I don't think the Panthers offense is all that complicated right now with what they're doing.


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[Assistant] I go, that's advantage, Tennessee Titans and Dean Pease and Mike Vrabel on the other side of the ball. I do think the Panthers, you're going to see a, their best foot forward type of effort versus the Titans. But again, I like it. I've liked what I've seen from Ryan Tannehill. I mean, there's no arguing that there are better offense with him at quarterback.


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[Assistant] I don't think that's in dispute at this point. And I feel like I'm seeing glimmers of the run game come about a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I think this is an ugly football game. I mean, really, I could see the, the Panthers up 16-13 late and the Titans scoring a late touchdown and then stopping the Panthers on a late two-minute drive from scoring a touchdown, something like that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's just something about the matchup where I think the Titans have a little bit of an advantage X's and O's wise and I just think they match up with the players wise as well on the field to where I'm picking them to pull the upset on the road, uh, just like you except I'm just going one, one field goal less.


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[Assistant] Okay, he's consistent and just makes a few throws every game just to where like, oh, it's third and ten and then they need someone to really like pull the trigger and throw the ball in the tight window gets it done. I mean, hey, some of the touchdown passes he had last week. Okay. I mean, those are things, again, some of them were easy, but


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[Assistant] You know, they, they're not necessarily always seem that easy when Marcus Mariota was in the lineup. That's all I'll say there. So, uh, I like what he's brought. Now, Vikings Chief. So under, under the radar, one of the best games of the day. I mean, I think we would really love it if number 15 was playing a quarterback.


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[Assistant] I don't think we're gonna see him this week. I think we go, I mean, if I'm the Chiefs, I wait at least one more week.


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[Assistant] Before I throw him back out into the fray, uh, Minnesota on fire, your squad, as we know, are going to the chiefs. Okay. The tomahawk chop Vikings, two and a half point favorites over under 48 and a half.


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[Assistant] I had a tough one here. I think this is gonna be close. I'm just gonna say that, but the floor is yours, sir.


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[Assistant] Do we? Have you picked against the Vikings for how many weeks in a row now? Did you pick? You picked them to win last week, I think, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, listen, it's an interesting matchup. It really is. Um, you know, you know, so what we're talking about, I really do like what I've seen from the chiefs, uh, on that side of the ball lately. You know, you heard me say last week. Yeah. I mean, the only reason they, they lost that game was cause 12 was that quarterback and that was Sean McCoy fumble.


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[Assistant] Uh, they've been all over though, a lot of like the concepts I saw the Packers run. They just couldn't overcome number 12, which is scary because yeaah, I don't expect number 8.


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[Assistant] On the, wearing purple or white and purple on Sunday to be able to make some of those plays that we saw Watson make or, or an Aaron Rodgers make against this defense. That's where it is different.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I like everything about that, but the only thing I'll say that's a little different dynamic, of course, is the Vikings run game and who you got a tailback. That's what scares me a little bit more than maybe the last few weeks with the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Just because, yeaah, okay, hey, you wanna blitz, but damn, you get caught in like, ooh, we wanted to blitz off of this side, and the Vikings run to the other side.


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[Assistant] You know, the Vikings defense, of course, is good. We know that. They don't let people into the end zone a whole lot. I think that's an encouraging thing. You know, is Andy Reid gonna run the ball on them enough? I mean, that's always a big question for me.


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[Assistant] And I don't think he will, so he'll be a little too much one-dimensional for Mike Zimmer. I went back and forth on this one.


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[Assistant] But I think this Vikings team is real. I think they are. And I think they're gonna win an ugly, ugly football game in Kansas City 19 to 17. And, you know, so the Chiefs, I have the Chiefs covering and I don't look at these spreads as you until after I make my picks. I didn't even look at them until I sat down here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think the Vikings this year got the formula to just get enough points to win these types of game. And if Patrick Mahomes, just for all those that are betting out there, if Patrick Mahomes does play, okay.


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[Assistant] I'm just gonna say that I would make the game probably 27-19 Chiefs. Uh, something like that. But for now, I'm going as he's not playing. I don't expect it to happen. And I'm going Vikings, 19-17.


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[Assistant] Yes, I am. And again, I didn't intend it to be this way. I liked what I saw from Matt Moore and company. I do thank Tyree Kill and Sammy Watkins.


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[Assistant] You know, I do think Zimmer gets a little predictable sometimes with his defensive calls, and that does worry me with Andy Reid, uh, and everything like that, but I just think this is a little bit of a different Vikings team this year, and I think Kirk Cousins is on, uh, a mission.


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[Assistant] To shove it right up Michael James Florio's ass for the year and I like what I've seen from him lately. Alright, let's go to the next game.


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[Assistant] Jets, Dolphins, Shit Bowl, okay? If we have the Wanker Bowl in London, we got the South Florida Shit Bowl here, alright? I mean, who cares? Geez, Jets, one win, Dolphins, zero wins.


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[Assistant] Jets look like crap in Florida last week against the Jaguars. Did not like the way Sam Darnold looked too. I just want to add that because Sam Darnold's arm like lacked pop in the game last week, which is a little scary to me. Dolphins.


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[Assistant] No person in their right mind should bet on this football game. Don't bet on stupid teams, bad teams that can like, you know, screw up a wet dream. All right? Just don't do that. You know, you don't want to, you don't want to bet on a team that could screw up a wet dream. You know, right during climax, they wake up and they go, oh, and then they don't even get to get to it. So that's what those teams do. They will screw up a wet dream. I mean, it'd be a hot


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[Assistant] Yep, they got the point in the back room, they're telling me. So, alright, uh, I'm with you there, I'm so glad, everybody back there, I'm picking the push.


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[Assistant] I'm picking the push. Yeah, I don't care. I want it noted because I'm going to get a victory if the push is right, right? So, either way, uh, I'm going Jets 27-24.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeah, I just think basically the jets are a little more talented.


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[Assistant] You know, have an offensive mind that has a little more of his crap together at this point than...


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[Assistant] Uh, I do look at it as kind of a get back on track game for the Jets, but not gonna be pretty. I think the Dolphins are a pain in their ass in this one. And I go Jets 27-24, uh, they pull out the victory.


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[Assistant] Anything else you want to say about this, the wet dream battle? Yeah, I-I-I- The shit bowl in South Florida? That's better. Okay. That's better.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that, that certainly, you're, you're right about that. We've seen, we've seen a few dynasties through our, you know, through football where, yeah, one of the teams gets an easy division and it certainly benefits them for being healthy and like ready to go playoff time where other teams come and beat up and everything else because they've been through so many battles.


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[Assistant] Philly coming off the win in Buffalo. The Bears coming off, you know, their shit show against the Chargers. Eagles favored by 5 over under 42.


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[Assistant] Uhm, no, let's see, we got the Sean Jackson coming back, right? So, anything else I'm missing? I don't think there's any other key injuries to this game. Uh, if not, Mike, just lead it off and tell us what you think.


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[Assistant] Uh, I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, the records are closed, but it does seem like one team is going, you know, green arrow up and the other team's going red arrow down. Certainly. Uh, I thought the Eagles actually played their best game of the year last week up in Buffalo. Uh, like you said, ran the football downhill Eagles, Philadelphia.


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[Assistant] That's when they were at their best in their Super Bowl run. It was a run first team, and then it opened up all the Doug Peterson intermediate passing. And you're right, Deshaun, Jackson being back is going to open up a lot of stuff. Off of that, the Eagles are getting healthy.


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[Assistant] Okay, I don't know. Last week, Mike, I met bang on the table every week for the Eagles to get underneath the center and run downhill with Miles Sanders and Jordan Howard because they're downhill running back. Stop this shotgun crap.


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[Assistant] Okay, I understand you can do it a little here and there. And I don't know if it was the weather last week in Buffalo that forced Philadelphia to do it.


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[Assistant] Or if Philadelphia legitimately just said, no, we're going to get underneath the center and run the ball. But to me, that's where they're missing out. Doug Peterson at times can just fall into this Andy Reedville of, oh, shotgun throw, oh, shotgun throw, oh, shotgun throw. No, stop it.


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[Assistant] And the other thing is the Eagles corners being healthy, having Jalen Mills back, having Ronald Darby back just absolutely changes their football team. And I have no faith in the Bears offense. The Bears defense of course is good.


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[Assistant] If the Eagles will run the football, the Bears have shown really in other weeks, other than the Chargers game. Okay. Cause the Chargers offense alignment have a hard time blocking you and me that you, you can run on the ball a little bit right now in Chicago.


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[Assistant] I mean, I never would have guessed it, and that's why I asked about Akeem Hicks, because I think it's showing.


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[Assistant] They ran the ball on that, that Chicago defense. And I think you'll see the same thing again from Philadelphia, at least I'm hoping. I'm taking Eagles 24 to 14 at home, and I think they continue to trend on that upwards, uh, green arrow.


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[Assistant] Yep, that's right. Uhm, okay, Colt Steelers. Uh, Colter...


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[Assistant] Looking like one of the best teams in the AFC. Quietly. I mean, it's like, we don't even talk about them that much. And then what are they, five and two or six and two? Either way. Five and two. Five and two. Uh, they're balanced on offense. Their defense is solid. I think we both like Frank Reich.


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[Assistant] The Steelers, you know, they're coming off their win. We know their defense is good. I'm still very iffy about Mason Rudolph in the offense. The Colter only favored by one.


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[Assistant] Over under 43. Uh, how do you see it playing out, Mike?


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[Assistant] What'd you say, what was your score there? 27-24, Steelers. Wow, yeaah, okay. I mean, I'm not gonna be mad at you. Uhm...


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[Assistant] Yeaah. You know, hey, the Steelers defense is good. We know that. I mean, we've seen it. Now, the one area I would be a little bit worried about the Steelers defense this week is just that so much is predicated on their front seven and dominating games.


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[Assistant] Don't think they can dominate this group and, you know, the wall.


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[Assistant] I mean, there was a wa- there's a wall! It's the greatest wall you've ever seen! It's a big blue wall of Indianapolis! Big blue wall! Slots!


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[Assistant] Nice slots, five of them. They're big, okay? It's tough to penetrate that wall, be the greatest wall you've ever seen. It's a damn good wall. I don't know if it's the greatest wall I've ever seen, but it's a good wall. And I think that slows down that Colts front se- I mean, the Steelers front seven. I mean, that Colts old line, as we both know, is real.


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[Assistant] Uh, so, I go there, Advantage Colts, and I think a lot of this Steelers defense, I really do. I mean, it's a good group.


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[Assistant] But I do think the Colts are one of those teams that poses problems for them because of that offensive line. Frank Reich's game planning. You know, the Steelers are still not a team that wants to play man to man. Jacoby Berset, you know, and the game planning together I think can lead to some maybe big plays in the past game.


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[Assistant] Now, you know, the big thing on the other side, just flipping it around. The Colts defense is good, you know, it's not great. We understand that.


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[Assistant] You know, we're seeing the Pittsburgh run game pick up a little bit. Can they continue to do that? You know, this defense is certainly better than the Miami Dolphins.


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[Assistant] I think the Colts can slow down the run game because they're still...


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[Assistant] To me, I need to see a little more of that Pittsburgh pass game first. I mean, yes, you're right. Mason Rudolph's nuts dropped and it was certainly better and things like that. But I'm not going to say I'm sold on it quite yet.


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[Assistant] And because of that, I'm going to go with the Colts to win the football game in Pittsburgh, 24 to 20. Uh, so you're basically giving the Steelers a late touchdown to win the game. And I'm saying,


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[Assistant] I'm saying the Colts are going to stop him on that drive. That's basically what we're going here. I'm saying the Colts are going to stop him on that drive. You're saying that Mason Rudolph is going to go in and as I'm talking that out, I like what my pick is. You're going Mason Rudolph. I'm going with the five and two football team. Uh, but yes, I do think the Colts will win a close football game. I do.


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[Assistant] Let's see, how many damn zip ups do you have is what I really wanna know. I mean, I mean, you got, you got a lot of zip ups.


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[Assistant] I like that one. I know, you didn't, you couldn't wear your Ravens one this week. That wouldn't look good for the Sunday Night Football game if you were wearing that one. Well, I wore it last week. I know. Well, I don't, you know, but you gotta- I'm trying to wear a different one every week. Yeah, you got a lot of them. That's what I asked you. How many do you got?


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[Assistant] Is this how you do it? Yeah, that's how you do it. Ooh, you look good. And then I can be unzipped? Why are you holding your shoulders up though? I'm not like the mon- I'm not like the monster. I'm like Eddie Munster? Is that what I do? Uhm, alright, I got a little something to read here.


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[Assistant] Man, my mofo right there. That's my kind of mofo, Mike Milberry. I mean yea, it's self-scouting itself being accountable.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, well yeaah, that's the kind of guy he is and yeaah, he does keep it real and of course I think we both appreciate anybody who gives honesty and true analysis and not


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[Assistant] If we gave your phone number into NFL locker rooms, oh my gosh. I'd have to hire security, I think, to protect you. I think they'd line up to whoop your ass if we gave the


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[Assistant] Yep, I getcha. Uhm, alright, here we go. Four o'clock games. Let's move on. Uhm, I think Mike Zimmerman one day might whoop your ass just to let you know. Alright, 4pm games. Lions, Raiders, Patricia, Gruden.


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[Assistant] Writers coming off two tough losses, you know, two games where


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[Assistant] They were in the balance for a long time and, uh, last week they got Deshaun Watson. The week before they got Aaron Rodgers. Uh, Lions coming off a good win against the New York Giants. Giants hung around though. They made it a game, certainly.


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[Assistant] You know, at the road, in the coliseum, the Raiders are finally home. They're favored by two over under 50.5. What do you see happening, Mike?


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, it is an interesting matchup. You know, I do think Matt Stafford and their offense will be able to make some plays on that Oakland Raiders defense. You know, like we've said the last two weeks where Watson and Rogers got the best of them.


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[Assistant] You know, we see that because there's not great talent on that Raiders defense, that great quarterbacks can overcome


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[Assistant] Maybe scheme flaws or the Raiders dialing up the right defense in certain situations and really schematically being all over a play, but Rogers or Watson can make that play. Matthew Stafford I think will be able to do the same thing. Now he's not Deshaun Watson or Aaron Rodgers, so I don't think he'll be able to do it quite as much.


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[Assistant] Ultimately though, I'm going with the Raiders to win this game because I think they're tough. I think they're a little tougher than the old, uh, the Detroit Lions right now. That's the one thing I'll say about the Raiders. They're tough.


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[Assistant] They want to get in your face and they will do that on the offensive side of the ball. And we've seen the Raiders can run the football and the Detroit Lions can't run the football. They can't. I mean, they can't stop the run. Excuse me. That's what I meant to say. So the Raiders can run it. The Detroit Lions can't.


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[Assistant] The Lions defense in general is, is pretty damn crappy.


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[Assistant] And I think it's going to lead to enough big plays for the Raiders offense to where, yeaah, okay, Matt Stafford and company are going to make some big plays, but I think Derek Carr and Josh Jacobs and Darren Waller and Tyrell Williams will make more. I think this will be a fun, exciting game. Uh, I would expect the over to hit in this for sure.


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[Assistant] And I'm taking the Raiders to win 31 to 28, uh, win a game at home in the Coliseum, but a fun game nonetheless. I like the Raiders.


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[Assistant] Seahawks, you know, we know they're a really good team. How good are they, I guess, is what we gotta just figure out. I mean, we know they're one of the better teams in the NFC. They're not in the class, I don't think, of the, you know, of the Saints, uh, certainly.


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[Assistant] Uh, we know their offense can make some plays. They lost a tough one last week against the Tennessee Titans, put themselves in a 14 to nothing hole or 14 to three hole early because they screwed up and had turnovers.


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[Assistant] The center snapped the ball off of Jameis Winston's face. Uh, I believe Jameis Winston threw an interception early. So they were down 14 to 3, you know, before the game even got going because of that. Uhm, what do you think, Mike? What do you, what do you got here?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I agree with you there. I mean, I think Bruce's attitude in some of those years is gonna make, you know, Seattle want to stick it up his ass. I totally agree with you there. Uh, and you know, Seattle, like, like to what we always talk about,


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[Assistant] You know, kind of fell asleep at the wheel in the second half of the Falcons game last week where they didn't really play good football on either side, but still won because they had built up such a big cushion by going up 24 to nothing. But you know, I think that's enough of the way they played to kind of like put the poker back on their butt to go like, we can't do that again.


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[Assistant] Now I do think the bucks pose some very interesting issues.


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[Assistant] For the Seahawks football team. I do, I do. You know, one, you know, let's not forget, the Buccaneers front on defense, it is good.


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[Assistant] You know, they could also, you know, corral a Russell Wilson. And you know, I just want to double check because I mean, the Buccaneers, the Buccaneers run defense is number one in football. I knew it was top five, but I did not know off the top of my head. It's number one in football and it's number one by a lot. Because you can throw on them all day. That's exactly right.


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[Assistant] The Buccaneers defense, I don't trust it in the past game. I think Russell Wilson will be able to strike, but I do think Jamis Winston will strike too. I think they'll be able to protect him.


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[Assistant] And I think they'll be able to throw what I look at as a very below average past defense in Seattle. And I just want to pull that up too, just to make sure I say this, uh, for people out there, just to look exactly where they are. Their past defense right now, the Seattle Seahawks, they are 27th in football, 273 yards per game.


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[Assistant] You know, that's not Seattle football. I'm going Seahawks. Of course they're at home. It's Russell Wilson, but I think this is a high scoring affair. I do. And I'm going to go Seahawks 34 to 27 in this one. So there again, I'm almost saying I like the over a lot. And of course I am taking the Seahawks to cover the spread.


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[Assistant] Alright, so uhm, Browns, Mayfield, you know, mouthing off to Tony Grossi, going to the Broncos, uh, no Joe Flacco. We got Browns favored by three. We know it's tough to play in Denver. We know that Denver defense is tough. What do you think's gonna happen, Mike?


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[Assistant] Yeah, maybe, but I don't think he's good enough to really prove us wrong. So I'm, I can't do it either. And oddly enough, I'm going to pick the Browns as well.


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[Assistant] To win the game 20 to 13, still a pain in the ass. This Denver Broncos defense. We know that, um,


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[Assistant] You know, you can run the ball a little bit on the Cleveland Browns, but I don't think, you know, with, with Brandon Allen being a quarterback and the Broncos run game, that's solid, but not great. I don't think they'll be able to expose that enough. And you know, again, the Browns outplayed the Seahawks.


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[Assistant] And in the, in the Browns versus the Patriots too, you know, I'm going to say this. If I got to grade all the plays of the game.


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[Assistant] I would bet you Cleveland won more plays than the Patriots. They were not outclassed by like the players on the field.


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[Assistant] The problem is with the Browns right now, and this one with the Seahawks game, the Patriots game, you know, you can even go to the Rams game or the Titans game, any of their losses, when they make a mistake,


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[Assistant] It's unbelievable, like three straight fumbles in a row, or your offensive lineman kicking the ball out of his hands, or, hey, I'm running down the field and about to score a touchdown and get stripped fumble.


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[Assistant] You know, our Baker Mayfield throwing at three interceptions on three plays in a row. Our Baker Mayfield calling a draw play on fourth and nine.


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[Assistant] I mean, or the Seahawks game. I mean that they shoot themselves in the foot, but I don't think that the Broncos offense is good enough to go do to get back to my point 20 to 13 Browns. Uh, but I don't feel great about that. Like I'm not making that a better my week. I'm just telling you right now. I don't because I, I wouldn't be shocked if this game was like,


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[Assistant] Packers Chargers. Yea, Packers Chargers in LA. Gonna be way more Packers fans there. This will be a Packers home game. I'm gonna say it's 90-10. That's how strong I think the Packers will be in this, in this arena. Don't even know what that thing's called. That soccer field that the Chargers play on, alright? Don't even care.


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[Assistant] Aka Lambeau Field West. Aka Chargers fans have some dignity and show up for your team. Uh, Packers favored by three.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm a weirdo, I mean, but yes, probably not. I mean, really, if I was gonna be like, try to put myself in the realistic, everyday man shoes, I'm a psycho football guy, and I probably would, but I, to your point, probably not. I get you.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so Chargers, uh, 3-point underdogs over under 47. What's your final score, Mike? How do you think this one breaks down?


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[Assistant] I kinda, I, I'm got the Packers winning too. Uh, so there's no doubt, I kinda went back and forth about how I thought it might shake out in my mind. Uhm, the Chargers defense, they do have a knack for kinda keeping teams out of the end zone. Uh, and you know, they're only letting up 19 points, 6 points per game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, their defense, it's 12th in football. It's not bad. I mean, it's been, the offense has been the issue with the Chargers. Uh, but they don't stop the run all that well.


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[Assistant] And that scares me because the, like you said, the Packers got a going, they're balanced, they make you defend everything.


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[Assistant] You know, Ingro and Bosa are the biggest weapons the Chargers have. This is one of the best p-pass protecting O-lines in all of football. So that kind of takes that away. And then as you know, I never like that the Chargers play kind of the same defenses over and over, and that's not always good against a creative offense or a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers. Now the other thing is,


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[Assistant] I just don't like what I see from the Packers defense. I don't.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think the Chargers are gonna move the ball on the Packers. So I am going with the push here.


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[Assistant] Again, my second push of the day, but I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna veer away. Yep, boo boo you.


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[Assistant] Alright, I think this game might be a little closer. Packers feeling themselves. You know, I don't know. I just, I, and I just don't trust the Packers defense is what I'm basically saying. But I do think Aaron Rodgers and their offense will do enough to win the football game. 27-24 pack.


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[Assistant] Sunday Night Football. We're pumped. I know that. Yeaah, we both are. This is the game of the week in the NFL. Uh, Patriots favored by three and a half in Baltimore over under 46. What say you, Michael?


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, yeaah, they're gonna, they're certainly gonna wanna be physical. I don't, I don't deny, you know, deny that. And, you know, the Patriots are so aware of who they're playing, the skill set, everything like that.


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, I do think that Bill Belichick and that defense are gonna pose some problems with Baltimore. Now the interesting thing about this matchup, like the Patriots, just from an X and O standpoint, they don't like to get big, right? Like, they like to have like two defense alignment on the field, and then,


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[Assistant] Three linebackers, four linebackers, you know, sometimes it's 3D Lyman and it's three, three linebackers, but more times or not, it's 2D Lyman.


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[Assistant] And a mix of linebackers who are versatile and five or six DBs. That's where they, and now Baltimore is the exact opposite. Baltimore wants to be like, we don't even need a receiver on the field. We're going to go like two running backs and three tight ends and smash it down your face. I'm interested to see what the Patriots do there.


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[Assistant] As far as do they try to get big or do they stick with what's been working all year long, which is like, Hey, we're going to play man to man, put some pressure on our secondary, do some creative things on the back end from here or there, but really try to confuse you with


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[Assistant] People all over the place at the line of scrimmage. Who's blitz and who's coming? Oh, we were in this defensive front. Now on this play, we're on this defensive front. Now the next play we're in a totally different one and you can't get a beat on what the hell we're trying to do. That's what the Patriots are doing to teams.


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[Assistant] On the other side of the ball, okay, just real quick, the Patriots offense, you said it, it's not hitting on all cylinders. The offensive line,


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[Assistant] You know, not healthy or where they wanted to be, uhm.


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[Assistant] And just to make sure, is our tackle from Georgia, is he playing this week? Is he, I know he's, I thought he was- Isaiah Nguyen? Yes, exactly. Sorry, I couldn't think of his name.


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[Assistant] Okay, so they're still hurting there. Now I do think that Baltimore can beat them up in the run game when the Patriots try to do that, but I don't know if Baltimore's got the pass rush.


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[Assistant] And then I go, okay, so Baltimore's gonna try to blitz maybe and play man to man. Now they can probably play some man to man against this Patriots wide receiving core and have success. I mean, hey, it's Marcus Peters and, uh, you know, Marlon Humphrey, who's one of the best corners in football.


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[Assistant] And they got some other guys, Anthony Everett, other guys out there who can cover too, to where I think that can make it interesting as well. But ultimately, I just, I'm with you. I, I, I'm gonna go with the fact that


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[Assistant] The Ravens haven't seen a defense like this, scheme wise or personnel wise.


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[Assistant] And as much as the Patriots haven't played a defense like the Ravens, I just think the way they play offense will correlate to them finding some ways to move the ball just a little bit more. Low scoring, I'm going 20 to 16 Patriots pulling off the win on the road.


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[Assistant] And covering by half a point. Covering by half a point. But I was with you, Mike. I went through some things in my head where I went, ugh.


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[Assistant] Man, maybe the, maybe, you know, maybe the Ravens win 20-17. Maybe they can win a 16-13 game. But, I just think ultimately, I can't do that. I just can't. I can't pick against the Patriots quite yet, even though I do have, uhm, slight, slight concerns about their offense in general.


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[Assistant] Yep, okay, cool. Alright, you ready to go to the next one? Monday Night Football? Yes. The Cowboys at the Giants, Cowboys off the bye week.


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[Assistant] Favored by seven, Giants came coming off a decent game. Daniel Jones was phenomenal last week in Detroit. I mean, phenomenal. He really was. I mean, every ball I saw was on target, perfect spiral, good power on it. I mean,


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[Assistant] I was wrong about Daniel Jones and we had a draft this week about players that surprised us the most and he was the guy that's...


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[Assistant] Surprised me the most, certainly. Over under at 48, Cowboys favored by 7, like I said. Uh, how much do you have the Cowboys winning by, Mike?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I, I mean, it does seem like it's trending that way a little bit. And yeah, I don't know where that's gonna go. Cause the Giants are one of those teams that they don't want to make quick and abrupt changes. Uh, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, you know, I think the big thing I look at is, you know, Pat Schirmer, I feel like, you know, to a degree, to what you're saying is, is falling out of public favor a little bit too, which could hurt him up here.


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[Assistant] Cowboys are still a really good team. I'm not giving up on the Cowboys. I'm really not. And, uh, I just look at this Giants defense first off and go, ugh.


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[Assistant] You gotta play the Cowboys. Good luck. I mean, the Giants defense is not good. And they're gonna play one of the more balanced offenses in all of football that can gash you in the run game and torture you in the pass game.


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[Assistant] So that scares me for them. Now I think the Giants will move the ball on the Cowboys at times. More just because, you know, Shermer's a decent game planner. He does try to stay balanced himself.


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[Assistant] And because Dallas plays the same defense all the time,


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[Assistant] You know, I think the Giants will be able to game plan a play play here and there to kind of move the ball, but ultimately my score is very similar to yours. I'm going Cowboys 31 to 20. I just don't see the Giants defense really ever stopping this crew. Uh, and also I'll just say this one little last inkling about this game before we wrap this whole thing up is


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[Assistant] I like that the Cowboys traded for Michael Bennett. You know, they lost Tyrone Crawford. Tyrone Crawford's like, been one of their better defensive players on that team the last four or five years. Not having him was big. It lost, you know, lose their depth, their versatility. Getting Michael Bennett to fill in for that role.


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[Assistant] Michael Bennett will fit in a lot better in the Dallas scheme, which is like Seattle, which is where he originated from, than he did in New England. And I just thought that was a good move by the Jones family. But either way, we see it the same way. I gave the Giants an extra field goal. Cowboys 31 to 20. And now, it's four.


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[Assistant] The three best bets of the week, okay? And we're on fire, we're on a heater, we make some monies. Before we get into the best bets, I wanna say this. I never say this.


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[Assistant] But for some reason, I'm going to put myself on a limb and just tell all the betters out there. I like the Over and the Lions Raiders and the Buck Seahawks game a whole lot. It's not my best bet, so I'm just saying I like it. It jumped out to me as we went and went through the picks on the podcast. Uh, so I started and I just want to throw that out there. If I'm wrong, I won't ever talk about it again.


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[Assistant] Michael, first best bet of week nine. Who do you got?


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, I-I hear you there. There's certainly logic there. Uh, like I've said, I'm a little scared of that Buccaneers pass game to where just I couldn't pull the trigger on that one. It was one of those though on my original list of-of best bats. I'm going with my first one tonight. I'm going with the 49ers.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, I actually like betting on the Thursday game because I feel like I get one out of the way and I go, oh yeaah, I'm already 1-0. I only gotta win two of them on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I am, I got the 49ers winning 34 to 13. I just think they're in a different class in this Cardinals team. Uh, I'm gonna ride the points and go with it. Uh, I think they get it done. Alright, pick number two!


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[Assistant] I'm probably wrong with this one. I know, I got the Packers only winning by three and I'm just scared of that Packers defense and I'm probably being chicken there. Uhm, alright, gonna get to my second one. I'm going with the Titans.


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[Assistant] You know, Panthers are favored by three and a half at home. Uh, and I'm gonna do it. Yeah, I, I, I do. I mean, I, I mean, I guess the, the .5 really sells me too.


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[Assistant] Uh, because I feel like if the Panthers win, it will be by a late field goal. And I feel that .5 makes me feel good. But regardless, I think the Titans are going to win this game straight up. I think they match up well with the Carolina Panthers. I'm going Titans 20 to 16.


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[Assistant] And, you know, I had some uh, this is the one I kinda flipped between.


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[Assistant] Because I thought about the Bears, just to give some insight here to the fans out there. I did think about the, I mean the Eagles, excuse me, the Eagles over the Bears in that game. But I want to see the Eagles one more week before I want to put them into a best bet. And I thought about the Colts.


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[Assistant] The Colts, like you said in the breakdown, it's kind of like sometimes a little all over the place, just as far as how good they play, and that scared me. But yeaah, I'm going with the Titans here. I think this is the type of team that they do beat on the road, and I like Tannenhill, and I like the way the defense matches up with Carolina. Alright, number three. Who you got, Flores?


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[Assistant] I'm going there too. That's my third best bet of the week. So that's our one overlap we have this week. We've had a lot of overlaps lately.


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[Assistant] I told you I'm here to beat your ass and straight up and against the spread. Our best bets, I mean, straight up and best bets. I wanna whoop your ass. That is my goal. I wake up on Thursday morning eating my Wheaties going, how do I beat Florio's ass today? But I'm with you with the Cowboys. 31-20 there. Uh, and that's it.


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[Assistant] All done. Chris Sims unbuttoned PFTPM collaboration. There's our best bets. Mike's got the Seahawks. Mike's got the Packers. Mike's got the Cowboys. Sims has got the Niners. Sims has got the Titans. Sims has got the Cowboys. Uh, so there we go.


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[Assistant] Uh, have a good weekend everybody. Enjoy the games. Mike, I'll see your ass Sunday. I gotta go get ready to go to Notre Dame and South Bend. Some of us gotta work while you have days off, okay? So enjoy your time, your little cozy home in West Virginia. You really wanna go there? You wanna go there on the way out? Oh, we gotta end the podcast! We gotta end the podcast! Bye bye now, see you later! Peace everyone, bye.


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[Assistant] Yo yo, what's up? Come on man, subscribe on YouTube to Chris Simms Unbuttoned Podcast. I need you, please hit the subscribe button, please!


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[Assistant] Are you saying five, five total, Phil? Or five from now?


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[Assistant] I'm a man now. One of the most, so you know. One of the most revealing things that we got out of you on this podcast is that you once sported a goatee.


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[Assistant] Thank you. I'm trying it for two weeks in a row. Every time I'm in makeup, they go, do you want me to fill in? Should we fill in your beard for you a little bit? We can do that. And I go, no. At this point, people know that I can't grow a beard, but I still try for some reason. Don't worry. And you're never going to see me try. And I did that too. When I was first getting into business, like I kind of have a younger look. It's like no one wants to get their news from a kid. Like, what is it? The guy knows nothing. They still say that. So you grow a beard a little bit, it makes you a little bit older.


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[Assistant] You should've stood up and then John McDonnell would've had to go back with the jib and run out of here to get you in the frame there. Yes, I know, I should've.


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[Assistant] I have compiled some lists of all decade running backs, all decade wide receivers, and so we'll take a look at those. Interesting results when you throw the numbers.


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[Assistant] In professional sports, it's so difficult to keep it up for, you know, five years, even especially in football, right? And that's amazing that you go back to 2011 and that was an amazing year for Aaron Rodgers. Here we are in 2019 and at some points in the year, not at the end of it, but at some points in the year, people are saying he's the MVP.


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[Assistant] That's a big one. New England can clutch the AFC East with a win or a tie, but Buffalo not out of it. So we go back to week 4, that was September 29th, at Gillette Stadium. The Patriots defense dominated in a battle of 2, 3 and 0 teams.


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[Assistant] But when I'm looking back at some of the storylines for that game, I'm wondering how the Bills lost.


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[Assistant] I feel like they... Statistically, it looks like they outplayed them. They did outplay them, they did have the turnovers in the game. Three picks from Alan, one from Matt Barkley. So they turned the ball over, they had a block punt that was returned by the Patriots for a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Uhm, they lost Josh Allen. Yeaah. In the fourth quarter. Took a huge hit from Jonathan Jones. Huge hit that he was not ejected for, that the Bills were not too happy about. Right. But the Patriots were up 13-0 after the first quarter, added only a field goal after that. Yeaah. Pretty safe to say that from the first quarter on, from the second quarter on,


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[Assistant] I would take the Bills. Yes. I might even take them outright. Right. Like I, I, I mean, I don't know going into obviously into Gillette Stadium, but the, the Patriots haven't looked like the Patriots here. So what would you say is the biggest difference we're going to see in this game than what we saw before? I mean, the Bills are more, more confident team. Yeah. You got Josh Allen playing more confident. They're doing things to benefit him as you say there.


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[Assistant] The Patriots, I don't feel like you can say that anything has gotten better for them defensively or offensively.


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[Assistant] So they are 49ers tied with the Seattle Seahawks, both at 11 and 3, so crucial game for them. Rams gotta win a couple to try to squeak into the playoffs. Uh, the Vikings hope they falter, do the Rams. So we go back to week 6.


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[Assistant] 65 yards for the touchdown. DeForest Buckner said for the 49ers, he said they took it personally after that drive because they were able to run the ball down their throat and it looked like okay, the Rams may be able to do this the entire game to the point where the Rams thought it too


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[Assistant] We were running the ball so well early. We were trying to stick to that. We just never got in a rhythm in the passing game. Yeaah. So, they ran the ball down their throat. The 49ers defense got mad. Right. And that was basically it for the Rams. That was it. The offense did just enough for the 49ers. Looking back, it doesn't seem like it was lights out. No. But they just did enough. No, did enough.


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[Assistant] Well the 49ers offensive, this was a defensive dominated game. Yes. Even though the 49ers ended up with 20 on the scoreboard. Right. Uh, Jimmy Garoppolo had a bad interception in the end zone. Bad. Marcus Peters was there. Who, that will not happen again. Because Marcus Peters is not there. Right.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so, so they did just enough offensively that that vaunted running game for the 49ers wasn't really there. I mean, Coleman was their leading rusher with 45 yards.


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[Assistant] You're kind of turning into, uh, like the male version of Oprah. Oh, is that right? People open up when they sit on that couch with you. Good. We get stories like Santana Moss the week before, right? You open up about college and about what it was like. You talk about tearing up at times, right? You're kind of turning into the male Oprah.


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[Assistant] You hear the name Greg Roman kind of come up as one of those candidates now for a head coaching position just because of what he's done with that offer. Is he one of those coaches though that he should just, he's really elite. Yea, well do you want to hire him?


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[Assistant] I think it's the combination of speed and physicality. I mean, Adrian Peterson for sure. There might not be a more physical running back that I've ever seen. Violent. No, he's violent. No doubt about it. On the field. Alright, so go ahead. So I actually might have a...


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[Assistant] A stat here, we got a pop quiz to lead off our running back list that might change your mind about the best player of the decade. Okay. So your pop quiz, who scored the most touchdowns this decade?


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[Assistant] He's a running back. Uh, Lashawn McCoy. Lashawn McCoy is the correct answer.


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[Assistant] No doubt. So here's my, uh, here's my all running back list. My top five. And we'll see if you guys agree or disagree here. So, uh, I had a couple honorable mentions and I wanted to throw in there. I wanted to throw Jamal Charles in there. Deserves it. Because he led the decade with 5.29 yards per rush.


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[Assistant] Then I went LaShawn McCoy, Adrian Peterson, second. Okay. With, uh, he had 70 rushing touchdowns. He had the most rushing touchdowns of any running back, uh, in the decade. Matt Forte, third. Cause he had the fifth most rushing yards. Right. Third most receiving yards for running back.


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[Assistant] Uh, he had the fourth most rushing yards this decade, second most rushing touchdowns. I did throw Frank Gore fifth there because he had the second most rushing yards of any running back this decade. So that's my top five. McCoy, Peterson, Forte, Lynch, and Gore. Ooh, that's pretty good.


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[Assistant] Right, so who, who, I'm curious, would you guys both have Lashawn number one? Just cause of the numbers there, is it hard to put him anywhere else?


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[Assistant] Fill your son has been racking his brain with this for the last hour since we asked him.


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[Assistant] Who are the two players to start every single game this decade that has 158 starts?


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[Assistant] He's played for the Chiefs. He's played for the Cowboys. He's played for the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Carl has started every game since 2008. Wow. Oh, that's amazing. He led the NFL in pick sixes this decade with 20. Larry Fitzgerald, by the way, missed two games in 2014. Which I feel like that's probably more amazing that he played and started that many games over Philip Rivers just because of what you say, the protection to the quarterback.


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[Assistant] That's what's amazing. But alright, let's do it. Let's get into receivers. Wide receivers. And I do have Larry Fitzgerald on my all decade, all decade team. Has to be. Because he was first in receptions, most receptions of any receiver, wide receiver, with 847. But he is third on my list because number one, I do have Antonio Brown.


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[Assistant] I put Kelvin Johnson 4, maybe that's my Detroit Lion bias kicking in there, but he was 7th in yards, 6th in touchdowns in just 6 seasons this decade. So he missed 4 of those seasons. 5th I put Deshaun Jackson.


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[Assistant] He tops in yards per reception by over a yard. He had 17.6 yards per reception in the decade. He was ninth total in yards. And then honorable mention, Phil, I did throw Dez Bryant in there because he had the second most receiving touchdowns of any receiver. But that's my list. Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, Fitz, Kelvin Johnson, and Deshaun Jackson, one through five.


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[Assistant] There were a couple other names here that surprised me. One of the names that was, that was up at the top of the list. Fourth in receptions this decade. It probably shouldn't surprise me, but Demarius Thomas. He's up there. He killed them.


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[Assistant] Have you ever pulled the trigger? What do you mean? Like actually induced a throw up? No, but I've not fought it. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] It was Sunday Night Football. Yeah. I remember it very well. Yeah. Cowboys versus Eagles. October 20th. This was in Dallas, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, Cowboys 1 dominated. Dominated. It was 37 to 10.


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[Assistant] The Eagles fumbled on their first two possessions, led to a pair of touchdowns for the Cowboys. It was over after that. Ezekiel Elliott ran wild.


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[Assistant] He ran over, who did he run over again in that game? It was like a highlight play. Uh, Malcolm Jenkins. Malcolm Jenkins, yep, early in the game, right. 111 yards for Zeke. Yep. Basically whatever Dallas wanted to do, they did do, and the Eagles never, never got it going.


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[Assistant] So they can get to 500, but they cannot get that winning record. So that leads us to our all decade bust team. So I went through players that were drafted basically in the top 10.


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[Assistant] Uh, throughout this decade. Okay. The all-bust team. Okay. Ready? Yeah. Honorable mention. Yeah. Johnny Manziel. Oh, whoa. Because he, you know, he was 22nd overall. Right. He's a bust, but 22nd overall is not top 10 overall. No, it's not. You're right. I mean, the hype factor, like, he's probably one of the best.


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[Assistant] Number three, fifth overall pick in 2012 by the Jaguars out of Oklahoma State. Oh, the, uh, Justin Blackman. Justin Blackman, you're right. Yep, disaster. Yeah, some off the field issues for him. Two seasons in the league. Number two.


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[Assistant] Eighth overall pick in 2014 by the Browns out of Oklahoma State. Oh, their corner. Justin Gilbert. Justin Gilbert. Geez, you're right. He was a bust as well. Holy cow. Started just three games in three years. Yep. But number one. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Seventh pick, 2015 out of West Virginia to the Bears. Oh yeah, Kevin White. Kevin White, damn. 25 receptions. Yeah, that was a bad one.


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[Assistant] The thing is with the quarterbacks, they usually get some run, right? If you've used that high of a draft pick on them, it's like they may eventually be a bust, but they at least get, you know, a season. Oh, well they never give up. A season?


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[Assistant] Not with the team that drafted you. The other team is like, hey, he's a former. Well, that's what happens. Yeah. I mean, we had a high grade on them. We got to bring them in here and check them out. They must not coach them right. Okay. Packers Vikings, the packers Vikings, Michigan accent comes out every once in a while. Uh, week two, this was September 15th.


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[Assistant] They never scored again after scoring on, uh, their first three possessions. So it was their first three possessions, touchdown, never scored again. Vikings came back, Delvin Cook 154 yards, uh, 75 yards, uh, to Thielen.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm just rattling off numbers now, but the Vikings came back, and the Packers had to hold on.


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[Assistant] Exactly. Yeah, cousins in the first game against the Bears. Yeah. They hit through just 10 times. Right. It was 8 of 10. This time he was, he threw 32, but just 14. No. Completion. So you're right. Yeah. It's, they've gotten into more of a rhythm. So you would say


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[Assistant] Where these teams have come since week two. The Vikings are better. The Vikings are better offensively than the Packers. Although the Packers, they were kind of getting their footing. Matt LaFleur, Aaron Rodgers. There was the unknown of the Packers offense set.


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[Assistant] That's going to be a close one. You want to talk some fantasy? Yeah, let's do it. Uh, let's do it. We got Josh Norris. We got to get John, John McDonald here on the jib because we're going to have chairs moving in spring into action. Oh, and Josh is in.


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[Assistant] And promotion, I will be promoted next year into the B League, is that correct? Do you guys really have relegation and promotion? Wow, that's pretty good. And if you're relegated, you have to leave your job.


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[Assistant] Josh, I gotta turn on your mic here apparently. Whatever you just said right there that was funny, nobody heard it.


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[Assistant] I am of all the leagues right now. That's how it works. Five Minute Fantasy with Josh Norris. We got our clock on us.


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[Assistant] Tony out. Yes, alright. Just watch out for a squall. Okay, watch out.


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[Assistant] So you're saying start him this week? Who's a big name receiver that you can think off the top of your head that you have a decision?


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[Assistant] That you would, uh, who are you comfortable starting him over? Cause it's all good to say, I like Devante Parker, but then when you're having to start him over...


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[Assistant] You know, a DeAndre Hopkins, you wouldn't do something like that.


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[Assistant] Okay, so you've gone through, so this is every season of this decade. From 2010 to now. 2010 to 2019. So you're going championship week, fantasy championship week, who has won people championships. Exactly.


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[Assistant] Alright, who's your, who's your- No, no, who's it gonna be? Yeah, you already gave the guys it was gonna be- Oh man. This championship time, Rashad Perryman.


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[Assistant] James has really helped me here in the second half of the season.


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[Assistant] Josh, before we go, we'll wrap up this whole thing. I got, I got, uh, thank you. Good luck, good luck. Uhm, stay for the, we got, uh, Requiem for a Team. Did you ever see the movie Requiem for a Dream? Yeah, it's a very, very wild one. He hasn't seen it.


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[Assistant] And so we play some, you don't get the luxury of hearing the sad music that we're playing right now, but we say goodbye to three more teams as we sign off here on Chris Sims on Button. You ready? The Indianapolis Colts. Don't leave, John. No, don't leave. Okay. You gotta listen to this. Uh, here lie the Indianapolis Colts.


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[Assistant] The writing was on the wall, even before the first game, with the retirement of luck.


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[Assistant] If you asked a pig about this season, he would turn his nose up and say oink.


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[Assistant] It's possible for Bears fans, this season feels even worse than the double doink.


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[Assistant] He's a pretty smart guy though. He's a snarky smart guy. I had nothing to do yesterday, so I did that. The final one here, here lie the Denver Broncos. Oh, Denver.


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[Assistant] A team that reminded us football's a game of inches. A franchise whose recent potential has been stolen by a string of poor quarterbacks also known as football's Grinch's. Yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, you just talked for 10 minutes straight. Do I get a word in at some point during this thing? I mean, just because the power is out doesn't mean my vocal cords are shot. Nope, they're not. You started with that ifs crap.


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[Assistant] Show this morning, rattling off Odo Beckham Jr, Jarvis Landry, Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb, Baker Mayfield. But still, I feel like the Steelers defense will make a play at some point, whether it's a stop, a turnover, a touchdown defensively, they'll do something to tilt the game in Pittsburgh's direction and they'll find a way to win. And I like them.


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[Assistant] pull the rabbit out of the hat over and over again. We see Lamar Jackson do spectacular things. The defenses for both teams aren't great, but they're good enough to make it interesting. I, you know, maybe you take some chances, Chris, maybe both defenses should play the way you've advocated that the chief should play. Just be aggressive.


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[Assistant] of the AFC. Cause then they moved to seven and three. The Ravens are seven and three. That's good news for the Patriots. The Patriots also play the Texans and the Chiefs coming up too. So a lot of that's going to get resolved. This is a, this is a huge hit. The Ravens want to do justice to everything they've accomplished the last five weeks. They need this one and I think they'll get it.


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[Assistant] They should be fine against the Falcons team that hey, they got their, their second win, right? It doesn't mean they're going to run the table. It doesn't mean they're going to play like they did last week. And also they're not going to catch the Panthers by surprise. They caught the Saints by surprise. The Panthers will be ready for them. I got the Panthers 27-20 in this one.


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[Assistant] I'm surprised the spread is only four and a half points in this one. We've seen


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[Assistant] They've gotta be. After falling to five and four, they're even with the Eagles. They got the Patriots coming up in Foxborough the following week. This is one that they need to have or it's gonna fall apart quickly. And I think that this is one of those


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[Assistant] Plus, Adam Vinatieri still employed is just enough to give the Jaguars a three point win. Twenty to seventeen. No rhyme or reason for it. The Jaguars are rested. I think Nick Foles is going to energize this team. Look, they were four and four with Gardner Minshew.


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[Assistant] And I think Foles, we're gonna find out, you know, all that Minshew mania was cute with the mustache and everything, but there's a reason Foles won the MVP award and beat the Patriots of all teams in the Super Bowl. He's bringing something to the table.


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[Assistant] I say that the hot team stays hot. And I, you know, this is probably the first time all year I've picked the Dolphins to win. And I think the Dolphins are going to pull this one off. The bill will go down to South Florida. Chris, you've said before, although it doesn't really hold up.


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[Assistant] The way that you think it does that when a team goes to Miami that they treat it like a vacation, although you're in Buffalo, you're getting a day or two in Miami, that could be a factor. But I think this bill's team isn't as good as six and three would suggest.


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[Assistant] And uh, but I think the incentive is there. It's definitely there. Because this can spiral quickly. Because if they lose to the Cardinals this week, they're gonna lose to the Packers next week.


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[Assistant] It's the Bo Jackson revenge game. Remember it was the Bengals in the playoffs in the 1990 season that tackled Bo Jackson and messed up his tip. And that was the last playoff game the Bengals ever won.


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[Assistant] Was Chiefs and Raiders. Then it was Cowboys in Washington, but Chiefs and Raiders was the first one where I understood this concept, that two teams, that when they play each other, it's a bigger deal than just two random teams. So I'm hoping that they're both going to be seven and four. The Raiders do their job and do their part this weekend to get to win number six.


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[Assistant] Very certain about this one. I think it's a pride game at this point for the Rams. The Bears are a team when you look at four and five, you say, how in the hell are they four and five? It feels like they're a lot worse than that. And the Rams are a team when you look at the record, it's five and four. You say, how in the hell are they five and four? They feel a lot better than that. And I think this is one of those games that reality catches up with the


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[Assistant] Get on me all the time, especially on Showtime, about this and that. I go, they go, why are you...


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[Assistant] I always, you know, I do a lot because I just go, that is just a total, total lot. Like I heard a guy the other day go, you know, nobody ever talks about the identity of the team. I'm the only guy that does it. Oh my God. I want to call in and go, you are full of it.


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[Assistant] And your idea of identity of a team is not even close either, but that's, but you know, just stuff, just like...


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[Assistant] Denver, you're right, Denver. There are, uh, who wants to play? There are pain.


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[Assistant] Kind of played the way they wanted on offense. They got a little something different from Brandon Allen, just a little movement and just, I don't know. It had a different feel to it. I don't know if I was looking at it differently because it was not Joe Flacco, but it worked well for them and they, they pulled out a victory.


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[Assistant] Uh, a fourth and a nine instead of a third and eleven or something like that.


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[Assistant] This is the quarterbacks, we're talking about what they've done this year. Regardless of age or anything, none of that, just what you've done this year.


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[Assistant] So I would not have him in the top 5 because of that.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it is, you know, listen, you know.


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[Assistant] You know, the MVP here, you know, said halfway mark, and I go, whoa, I thought you had to play to win the MVP.


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[Assistant] But I understand where he was coming from. I really do. And, and, but yes, I would not have had him in my top five just because there's so many quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] That have played so well this year, so far, and uhm, it's, it's, we're in an unbelievable era of quarterbacks. And the last thing, not to interrupt it, but,


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[Assistant] And all of a sudden he's a hero, and now they go, well, we would have won that game if Jacobi would have got hurt. Well, okay, you should have won it with, uhm...


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[Assistant] I don't know, you told me this Chris, or somebody, whatever just said, you just gotta make sure never go in the season, knowing that you, now you gotta do it more than ever. You better have two quarterbacks on your roster that you think you can win with.


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[Assistant] Uh, yes, you know, my first thought about Lamar Jackson is I really think he is an MVP candidate.


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[Assistant] But just because it's, uhm, it came out of nowhere.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm not going to take Aaron Rodgers out of there. I think he's really played well and, and, and just pulled rabbits out of the hat for him a few times. I mean, come on, they beat the Dallas Cowboys. No other, you hear, let me say this. No other quarterback in his situation in that game would have won the game. Patrick Mahomes, Deshawn, none of them would have won the game because they couldn't have made the move.


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[Assistant] And made the throws that he made in that game. They, and I know everybody goes, although they can, no they can't. Aaron Rodgers can flip it with his wrist and his hand.


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[Assistant] Better than anybody in the league, and he has that extraordinary talent.


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[Assistant] To himself, except maybe one other guy, and I'll give you one guess, and if you get it, I'll be shocked.


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[Assistant] My gosh, I think it's the first time I've watched him this year where he got the ball.


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[Assistant] With, on the last drive of the game against the Raiders, and I've, you know, standing in front of our desk going,


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[Assistant] Somewhat of a miracle. It was down to the wire, down near the end zone, all that stuff, but they did do it.


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[Assistant] But, right now, they are not, they have not, in my eyes, I can't remember every game off the top of my head.


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[Assistant] But I don't think they've ever said, today is the day we need you to solely, you must win it because we can't do anything else.


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[Assistant] But that was not gonna happen that night, just because of everything else that was going on. Baltimore's offense, uh, pressure.


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[Assistant] You don't see many Tom Brady passes where they just get clear.


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[Assistant] And I will say this too, just to show you what veteran quarterbacks do.


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[Assistant] That is so great. He, he just say, it's out there, boom, in the ground, you know, whatever, get rid of it.


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[Assistant] If they're not 1 and 2, they're probably in the top 2 or 3, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, and people don't listen. You know, so,


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[Assistant] And when you're on the radio, they're listening to, they're to really, when you watch a telecast, you just really dig in and listen to the commentator.


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[Assistant] They just basically kind of all go along and then, oh, he should have said that or whatever. It's, but people don't really truly listen. Right. And, and as they casually listen.


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[Assistant] And every once in a while, something hits them, you know, and it's, uh, you know, well, that's just the way it is. So what I'm, my point being when you make a list like this.


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[Assistant] On TV or whatever, that was great. Uh, but he has played well. Extremely good decision maker.


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[Assistant] And so I think Jacoby has been outstanding, uh, big.


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[Assistant] More mobile than people giving credit for. Accurate as can be. Throw on the run.


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[Assistant] And all those points are extremely valid. Uh, yes, the Green Bay, it ended up, he put up phenomenal numbers if I think. But yeaah, it was after the fact.


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[Assistant] And, you know, do you think, and then I always, people laugh when I say that, I heard you Paul, but you know it to be true.


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[Assistant] And I have said this many times, when it's, I know my team is not going to win.


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[Assistant] If I was the head coach or the coordinator, I'd say to the coordinator, hey look, listen man, go out there, just take what they give you. Don't worry about the clock. We're not going to win the game.


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[Assistant] Because if you throw a Hail Mary, because you're trying to score to intercept it, it's just another bad interception for you.


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[Assistant] Score 40 points here in the fourth quarter, of course I'm exaggerating, but they just throw more.


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[Assistant] You know, everybody can go on the radio and go, well, he's hit last seven weeks, you know, whatever. So, I am such a jerk, it's unbelievable. Well, that's alright. But you know what? I am really good at it.


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[Assistant] Well, maybe right where he should be. The last game was good by him, you know, again.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, a lot of people have had big games against Arizona throwing the ball. So do we give them, you know, so it kind of goes into that again.


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[Assistant] He did make some terrific throws under pressure. That could be his best attribute. He can be fallen away.


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[Assistant] And if it's intercepted or something like that, he gets absolutely crucified public wise and by the coaches too. So.


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[Assistant] I think overall Kyler Murray has played better so far. You know, judging by circumstances you put in and what you've done with it and all that, I would say Kyler Murray so far.


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[Assistant] I mean, up in Buffalo, I don't know what his numbers were, they weren't great, but he was fantastic.


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[Assistant] Yeah, sick. He kind of played the same game and I got to tell you, I love it when I watch him play that way. I think it fits the team and please Philadelphia. I don't know why I'm sad. I don't care, but.


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[Assistant] Right, well I think he still should have been the MVP, but that's, you know, everybody gets mad about it too, but that's just me. What'd he, what'd he miss, the last three games of the year?


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[Assistant] It's what we see, all the guys that are pushed on TV, the ones that nobody cares about until they screw up. And of course, fantasy football has a lot to do with the two.


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[Assistant] I'm down with this. For everybody who can't see, we still have Chris' bobblehead holding his Sims jersey in Tampa Bay. Up front here, and then to his left is the new Aaron Rodgers bobblehead. And then Russell Wilson riding, I guess. Go Hawks, that's what he does.


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[Assistant] My lead from your notes. Yeaah. And you can take it from here. Sure. You say Green Bay offense no longer looks like a work in progress.


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[Assistant] A lot of what I do. What's the best part of it? Like, I guess what, I mean, I'm listening to you and just following up, but like I had written down, how is Matt LaFleur helping Aaron Rodgers in a way that the previous offenses did not help?


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[Assistant] And think about just by calling that play, just by virtue of having that play in your repertoire, how much confidence you have in the offensive line. Yes. Post corner post or, or post corner, whatever it is. Right. That's about three breaks there for the receiver, 30 yards downfield.


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[Assistant] You mentioned though that Raiders didn't have any difference makers on defense. If you're a D coordinator scheming against the Packers, you're worried about the play calling, you're worried about Rodgers obviously, and you're worried about, you're concerned about their new commitment to the run. Yes. Who amongst the pass catchers is really scaring you?


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[Assistant] Is it say more about the scheme that Matt LaFleur is running or Aaron's just pure talent? That guys like that are running open?


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[Assistant] Before we move on from the Packers offense, uh, Rodgers six incompletions, accounted for six touchdowns in his first perfect passer ratings. Moving on to the other side, Packers defense, and I do want to get to Derek Carr in that key play, but the Packers defense, do you think they're as far along as the Packers offense is?


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[Assistant] Looking around the NFC, we talked about this a little bit last Wednesday, about how many strong teams there are. You didn't have Green Bay ranks as your top team. How big of a concern is it? In the NFC North, the Vikings coming along, and then looking around the rest of that conference, if you're not convinced on their D yet.


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[Assistant] My question about that, I think you correctly pointed out that was the turning point of the game. At some point Aaron Rodgers and the offense, they were going to take over and blow by him. But as it played out, that was the key play.


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[Assistant] We normally ding a quarterback, uh, for not getting it done in the key moment, for decision making, for accuracy, something that relates to his mind and how he's throwing the ball.


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[Assistant] I'm angry at Derek Card. I bet you John Gruden's the same way. We used to have a category on the, on the Sunday evaluation quarterback play at Iowa called poor decisions. And the offensive coordinator would, you know, it was a big deal. How many poor decisions did you have?


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[Assistant] Would you count that? That play by Derek Carr is a poor decision.


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[Assistant] Yes. And listen to you here recently. I don't want to put this game to bed without letting you talk about Jacobs and Waldo Tideh. Well, please, thank you for, for


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[Assistant] It's an instinctual in the moment thing. I'm dating myself here because there wasn't really a face-off in the 90s, in the early to mid 90s. But it also comes down to Matt Stafford. Since he's been in the league, he's been one of the top two or three, not best quarterbacks, but strictly throwing the ball.


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[Assistant] As, as we turn, as we turn the corner. Yeaah. They're giving me the headline phase of the day. Minnesota, Detroit. I have here as, as, uh, this headline, as the Vikings look good again offensively. What's your jersey size, Florio?


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[Assistant] Three weeks ago. Yeah. Catastrophe. Catastrophe. Ship's going down. It's over.


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[Assistant] I mean, his numbers are off the charts, right? Yeah, he's 75%. He's 10 touchdowns, one pick. In this, in this three game win streak, they've scored over 100 points. The point total goes up every single game. Right. What's different now when you watch it compared to three, four weeks ago?


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[Assistant] Thanks for the big throw at the end of the game. This is what I said when I heard Gary Kubiak was on board there. I'm like, this will be fun to watch. And if you're a quarterback, it's a system you love to play. Yes, right. There's so much bootleg. There's so many guys crossing at five yards and 45 yards and it's all there.


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[Assistant] I do think it's sustainable. Headline with the Saints and the Bears. Would you rather compliment New Orleans or bash Chicago with your headline?


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[Assistant] He's not doing any of that this year. I think both of us always try and see the positive and quarterback play. Like, we're not the first ones, especially you, to jump on, this quarterback sucks. Right, right. But the more you watch it, the more it's just, I mean, how many different ways


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[Assistant] Can you formation and motion to a three yard flat route or roll out here and throw a screen over there?


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[Assistant] It's never going to move the ball. It's never going to happen. Most importantly, you have reservations at a very nice restaurant in Chicago after the game last night. You inviting Teddy Bridgewater and hanging out with him for three hours or five or six members of the Saints D. Uuuh, man, I'm really proud of Teddy.


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[Assistant] How about Notre Dame? Notre Dame's got that terrific new freshman safety Kyle Hamilton. Yes. I just spent a summer in the Premier Lacrosse League. Kyle Harrison is one of the biggest players there. Yeaah. So you want to call him that every time? Want to. Yeaah. I did. Did you? One time. Good. Alright. Only once though. Alright. Only once. That's acceptable. Hasn't happened since week one. Okay, good. Alright. Good. Rams, Falcons. Yeaah. Ramsey's impact fell early.


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[Assistant] No problem. I mean. We talked last week about what Wade Phillips might be able to do with him. I know it's only one game. He practiced a couple times. He didn't play nearly all the snaps. No, he did not. What did you see that was different because they have


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[Assistant] And Matt Ryan had been passing for all kinds of yards, even when they'd been losing. Yeah. But they shut him down too. They did. They did.


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[Assistant] And that had a lot to do with the passing offense for both sides being very good. But this is an unbelievable stat. I don't care how poor the conditions were yesterday for the quarterbacks. Last two weeks, the Niners passed defense, giving up less than 100 yards passing. Insane. It's impossible. Insane.


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[Assistant] Ravens win, a couple of touchdowns. They're 5-2. Easily the best team in the AFC North. That's only the vision where it's not even a close race. Best win? They've had some really good wins. What did you call their best win? Yes, definitely their best win.


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[Assistant] I want to start Raven's offense. Another thing I have circled that you wrote down about Lamar Jackson, it says like Cam Newton in his prime, uhm, he's getting great looks to throw against because the defense is afraid of his legs. It's understandable. What are those looks he's getting? He gets a lot of just normal


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[Assistant] Have you been able to say, and you're not going to know off the top of your head, but not very often at all, can you be complimentary of a quarterback and really excited about what he did in the future when he only had single digit completions and he completed less than half his passes?


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[Assistant] Last couple of weeks, no touchdowns, no picks from Lamar Jackson. He has 268 rushing yards.


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[Assistant] It's amazing what they're doing. The way they're having a successful offense is different than most everybody else. I'm gonna throw out two numbers for you. I don't expect you to know what they are. In the three game win streak, as it relates to Lamar Jackson and what he's doing, one of the numbers is 47, and one of them is 49. He has 47 rushing attempts and 49 pass completions.


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[Assistant] And I would guess two months ago, at training camp, they weren't thinking, this is how we're gonna do it. But kudos to them for adjusting however they've adjusted to being this offense now that they're not completing 50% of the passes, at least they didn't yesterday. But yet everybody's afraid of them.


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[Assistant] And it's not, I mean, we could sit here and talk, speak well of him for the rest of the podcast. I want to get into other parts of their offense. Right. And this is in the weeds a little bit, but you said they're great pullers on the offensive line. Yeaah. That's not a compliment that we get into very often.


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[Assistant] Other side of the matchup. Seahawks offense against the Ravens D. Russell Wilson, MVP kind of season. He wasn't bad yesterday, but wasn't his best. No, wasn't his best. When the regular season's over, this will probably be one of his two or three worst games. What happened?


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[Assistant] The Marcus Peters pick six, Russell Wilson. Looked like even an MVP candidate. My read on it, every now and then. Has a brain fart. You throw a ball where it's two inches off your hand. You're like, why did I do that? Is it just like one of those moments for him?


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[Assistant] Ran through really all three levels of the Baltimore defense. A lot of good things to say about a lot of players. Who's the guy? Who's the one guy just like Lamar Jackson is the guy making it happen as that offense grows up with the Ravens? I think it's country.


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[Assistant] 28 touches, 147 yards, mostly run a little bit in the passing game. And when the Cowboys offense really has it going, I mean, they benefited in a big way from the turnover game yesterday. Yes, they did. Yep. But that stat line could be from last night, could be from two years ago. They'll want to get into early this year. Yes.


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[Assistant] I don't think he had them. It helped me remember this. Last Wednesday we talked about the top four teams in the NFC being so, so close. Right. San Francisco and Green Bay. Right. And who else was in there?


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[Assistant] I want to get back to what you said about Philadelphia a moment ago. You said they concern you, you're worried about them. Couple reasons why.


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[Assistant] No matter who they play. I think the important thing is, I mean, the next day we'll talk about it. Oh, they were down to the worst team in the league and they shouldn't have been.


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[Assistant] I mean, for a young quarterback, they were down in the fourth quarter and had to come back and win. That's the bottom line, no matter who you're playing. Right. So if we're complimenting his maturity, then you gotta look at the way he played in that situation, regardless of the opponent. Definitely. You can't worry about it.


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[Assistant] I'm speaking of that schedule. People are looking at it. I think I saw you last night as well. Hey, they could be ten in one. They should be ten in one. Is it too much too fast?


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[Assistant] Let's go to the AFC South, Houston, Indy, close one, but it goes the way of the Colts, and the Colts take the lead in the AFC South.


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[Assistant] $50 fine to me. I'm blending deep dive with give me the headline here. Yeah, it's okay.


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[Assistant] One more question about that game though. I mean, we hear so much about Jacoby Brissette, and he's been, he's been very, very good. What's the next best compliment you can give this team?


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[Assistant] Arizona, New York Giants. Cardinals three game win streak. They don't have a losing record. They're in last place in their division.


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[Assistant] Such a fine line because after the first start in Tampa, like, I was, I was so comp- I was complimenting him so much about, well, he hangs on to it, he hangs on to it, he gets rid of it in the last second.


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[Assistant] Chargerist's charger kind of loss ever.


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[Assistant] So after one game, you're ready to say, let's roll the dice with this.


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[Assistant] A lot of runs where he's B-, but people wanted to get all over him because he wasn't, he wasn't like, great all the time. I know. Now granted, he wasn't good a lot of the time either. But I thought that was, I thought there was more good than bad.


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[Assistant] If you have a good headline for Jacksonville, Cincinnati, go ahead and roll that.


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[Assistant] And you and I were in the, the newsroom watching this together and uh, I looked at you and I told you like, this is how you throw the fade route and no quarterback does it except Stafford and sometimes Ryan De Julio Jones. You keep the ball low and hard as opposed to high lob.


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[Assistant] And, oh, Floreo took the Dolphins, Sims takes the Jets, Floreo took the Jaguars, Sims took the Chargers.


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[Assistant] You should have listened to me. You should have deferred on the Thursday night game because it's better for business to be able to push the best bets video on Saturday and Sunday when we haven't burned one of them on the Thursday night game. Otherwise I would have done the same damn thing and I would have been wanting to.


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[Assistant] So I know what that means. Get the win! Here's what this means. Here's what this means. If you were a gambler...


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[Assistant] And you believe that the favorite who is favored to win by seven is going to win by seven


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[Assistant] You're not going to bet on the game. You're not going to go there because then you lose the VIG. You bet the 11 to make the 10. You lose money. You're not going to bet it. So there's not some special prize for pick the margin exactly. That's not the game. I shouldn't get a tie or a loss though.


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[Assistant] I don't know much about this. I'm not aware of a bet where you can go in and


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[Assistant] The, the home team is favored by seven, and you can bet the home team to win by seven, and if they win by seven, you win. I, I, maybe, maybe there is some way to do that, but that's not what we're doing. We're picking the game straight up, we're picking them against the spread, and if you choose,