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[Assistant] Like lose weight in three days? I was like, Oh, that's cool. Like it's a rendering of Russell. No, that's actually him.


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[Assistant] Who like, he, he like immediately maneuvered into, you know, working in the media for the, for the team. And it was just like his first day of the job. It was like, whoa, that dude lost it. Cause usually, you know, like you, you know, your football players, you retire and you go and like.


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[Assistant] You know, you, you, you, you go and you try and like work through the psychological issues of having to give up your dream and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, wah, wah, wah. And like, you don't come out and, you know, like, you know, showcase yourselves in the public light. And then Jordan Grosso was like out there day one and just lost all this weight. And so it was like, just a very notable example of, of, of it happened.


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[Assistant] Yeah, absolutely. Like I think that like your Fox, um.


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[Assistant] Player in the history of Notre Dame football, which is insane to think about.


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[Assistant] Um, and you can, you know, you can look at it. I don't know about that one, but whatever. Uh, but the point being is like, you know, it's like.


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[Assistant] When I, you know, like you and like you and liner and Bush, like, you know, it's like just, it's just, you know, like it's the same thing. Like it just makes me think of like, like Notre Dame USC and like, like, you know, you get, you get, you choose stuff for it. And so I think that, um, yes, I want my quarterbacks to look like they could quarterback and know what you're doing. I want my lineman to be fat.


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[Assistant] And I want the, like, I want like Ryan Fitzpatrick, right? Like he's like, I know what he did. I know what he did. Like you could like, I, I get the full Fitzpatrick experience when he's on the Amazon prime stuff. Richard Sherman looks like a quarterback. Eat some barbecue, buddy.


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[Assistant] It's like, it's like, it's like exercising for the sole purpose of like losing just enough weight where you can drink as much as you want. Like it's like you're not really trying to get healthy. I'm just trying to make sure I can not get fat from drinking.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, that's, you know, we talk a lot about how.


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[Assistant] You know, the Deshaun Watson deal has impacted the Lamar Jackson deal and possibly the Lamar Jackson deal and possibly other future quarterback deals.


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[Assistant] You know, ultimately I don't think it's going to impact it just because of how I think all those contracts will play out. Uhm, but the reality is...


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[Assistant] You know, if, if, if it, let's say hypothetically like.


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[Assistant] We get through this year and the more Jackson doesn't sign his contract and Joe burrow and Justin Herbert sign normal quarterback deals.


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[Assistant] And the Browns win six games and go six and 11 and Sean Watson plays like crap and, or he still has stuff going on off the field.


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[Assistant] Well, it's going to be really, really, really, really hard for anyone at that point to justify a fully guaranteed contract. And I know that that's not fair because none of these other guys have those issues that the Sean Watson does, but these owners are going to look at and point at and say, look,


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[Assistant] They traded all these picks for this guy, gave him a fully guaranteed contract.


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[Assistant] And he's not any good and he can't stay on the field. Now they might win 13 games and he might play great. I mean, you know, there's no telling how this brown season is going to go. I think there's any number like there's a lot of different pathways that it could go down, but he wasn't and he was incrementally better last year. I thought from week to week, but he wasn't good.


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[Assistant] You know this, like Cleveland's a weird place to play football, man. Not just from like.


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[Assistant] Like weather wise, you could get two or three home games late in the year where.


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[Assistant] You can't throw the ball and like, you, you, I mean, you're static. I'm just saying there's a, there is definitely a lot of paths where this is just like a complete disaster and it really only reinforces the owners, you know, the desire not to give up fully guaranteed contracts.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't disagree with that. I do think that, you know, he has sort of suspension went through it last year played in Houston, like, you know,


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[Assistant] Well, he also had a bunch of surgeries too.


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[Assistant] I think, I think the Sean is the, I think the Sean is probably, I mean, frankly, based on his behavior patterns, probably pretty capable of tuning out some, some noise and maybe being a little, uh,


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[Assistant] And like, you know, I think it's, uh, Billy asked in the chat, is it, is it time for Ron Rivera to be fired? I mean, Ron Rivera was already saw through one, um, disgraced, like owner forced to sell situation.


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[Assistant] If anything, I think Ron Rivera is the kind of the perfect coach to see to like get through.


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[Assistant] Whatever you're dealing with with Dan Snyder because he's, you know, he's not too high, not too low.


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[Assistant] Leader of men, et cetera, et cetera. You know, blah, blah, blah.


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[Assistant] I think, I think Ron Rivera sits, you know, rolls through this and is just like the guy. And then, you know, depending on how he performs the first year after the sale is done, maybe they change your mind or, or maybe Sam Hell is great this year and Ron Rivera just, you know.


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[Assistant] Makes you curious his job for another five years. It's hard to say how it's exactly.


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[Assistant] You know, gonna play out. But, um, yeah, I mean, like, I'm excited. Let me ask you this. If you bought the commanders, would you change the name?


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[Assistant] I would, I would name them the Washington Priscos and I would have our logo be a toilet.


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[Assistant] of, uh, what ultimately ended up being completely fruitless of work and manpower, uh, and an effort to dig through the copyright.


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[Assistant] Look, you think I'm wasting my time at least a second like qualify. This is work because I'm trying to find something out. You're like burning through your like cash. There's like a side job to try and like, haha, I got Dan Snyder. Now the ad rules is mine. It's like, what do you do with that?


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[Assistant] I'm just wondering if you're trying to make sure that everyone sees his rocket.


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[Assistant] I mean we've got, we've got years and years and decades of rockets being shaped one way and Jeff Bezos decides to shape his rock in a different way.


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[Assistant] You would almost, one could almost suggest that by building that a giant rocket like that, that, you know, you probably also have a large car.


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[Assistant] You know what they say about people who buy cars that are too big. They have rockets. They have giant rockets as well.


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[Assistant] I mean, you could, you could at least, if you're Arizona and you were desperate to try and, um, make it seem like there's more than two teams calling you, which is probably the reality because Indianapolis ain't, you know.


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[Assistant] I don't think Indy's going to trade up one spot for whatever the prohibitive cost is. I think Seattle is going to sit and be fine. I think Detroit sits in fine.


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[Assistant] That's probably it. But if you're trying to drive at the price, you could leak out that there are six teams that have called you about it knowing that


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[Assistant] One, nobody's going to come out and deny it. And two, you could actually find six teams who viably could trade up to that number three spot. I think it's a slam dunk personally that, um,


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[Assistant] The Titans move up to three, Monte Ossiport, the Cardinals GM.


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[Assistant] Just came from the Titans. You know, he worked with Mike Ravel. Uhm, obviously, you know, John Robinson works with him, but he no longer there.


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[Assistant] What's that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Carthad was he, he was in Tennessee before there, right? He was in San Francisco. San Francisco.


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[Assistant] Ah, yes, the Rams, they could, ah, they might be too far too far back, aren't they?


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[Assistant] You know, clearly they don't like Malik Willis. They signed Josh tops and started him in a playoff game over the rookie. I mean, you know, with like five, five minutes of prep on it and.


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[Assistant] I think you can just make an easy case that Tennessee and Arizona could swap knowing that Arizona has to look at this year as kind of a lost year.


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[Assistant] Kyler's probably not going to play most of the season. You got a first year head coach. You know, you got this issue with the ownership. You got a first year GM, like their wind total five and a half, like they're probably not going to be very good. So why not just recoup as much as you can move down the draft and try and gives me assets as you can in a draft that's much deeper than it is top head.


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[Assistant] Uh, if you're not talking about Drake May, I assume you're talking about Caleb Williams.


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[Assistant] And sitting in front of fires and big screen TVs, but they'll be rich and handsome and play football. What more can you ask?


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[Assistant] I also think you gotta look at the fact that, you know, we talked about the offset language and everything and how he's, I mean.


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[Assistant] He is going to take, he is going to milk the Cardinals for every, as much money as he, as he should, right? Like you should.


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[Assistant] You got this huge contract, the card was he fired you one year in, like you're not going to rush back to being a head coach and less as Brady points out, you know.


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[Assistant] Lincoln Riley gets a job to follow Caleb Williams to the NFL or some NFL team is drafting Caleb Williams first overall. And it's like, man, we need a head coach and Cliff Kingsbury just did great things with him. I think that's probably unlikely. I do agree. It'll like.


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[Assistant] You look at the guys who are really re like the retread head coaches and it's, um, it's not a cliff Kingsbury type. Like it's more like a lovey Smith, a Rex Ryan, a John Fox. It's like sort of an elder state.


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[Assistant] You can't sell a 250 winning percentage, a 25% winning percentage in like the second half of the season. This is your top resume.


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[Assistant] Uh, oh, oh, yeaah, I was co-hosting with, uh, our buddy Nick Kostas on You Better You Bet.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's check it out. Three actually go live and I'm going to take a nap for that show. You gotta be high energy for pastors. Uh, but, uh, yeah, I got the, uh, what do we have tonight? I got that over something.


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[Assistant] Rob Lowe, Rob Lowe doing a heck of a job out there in LA putting it together.


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[Assistant] How much would you have to get? I think you're the perfect guy for this because you know, your former NFL quarterback, you know, you.


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[Assistant] Done well for yourself outside of football, did well for yourself, you know, like before, like.


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[Assistant] How much would it cost you? What would it, how much money would you have to be given to scream? This is a cost. This idea too. We were talking about this yesterday and I was howling at it.


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[Assistant] Jack Nicholas gets on the tee box at Augusta for the Thursday morning ceremonial tee shot.


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[Assistant] To like, jacket, like, like, S Scott, Scott, you're going to like lead sports center is that Jack, like that Jag off who like went up there and screamed that you're going to be banned from other clubs. You may be waterboarded at Augusta for all we know, like anything is on the table, but they do what they do behind the scenes. Like, like.


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[Assistant] So like I it's gonna be a lot of money in like you would be the shame of Ohio if you did that.


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[Assistant] And then you would get to play Augusta with Jack and your boy, Jimmy Don, probably. Uh, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I know how to act like, look, when it comes to golf, I know how to act like I've been there, right? Uhm, I'm actually, uh, supposed to be playing, I'm playing, uh, I was, I was like, thinking about this, like I'm playing, uh, congressional.


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[Assistant] And then, uh, burning tree in a couple of nights. Yeah. Very excited about that. And, uh, I like, I'm pretty sure that if I had screamed, get the hole or like mashed potatoes as Jack is taking off that I'm not playing those rounds of golf with my father and his good friend, uh, Tom, who's, who's, who's getting, what is it?


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[Assistant] I think everyone should be banned from doing it. I hate it. I just think the idea of


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[Assistant] Like one of the producers on the show yesterday was like, well, I'd do it for a hundred bucks. What are they going to do to me? It's like, dude, you, you might not make it out alive. It's like, you're not like Justin don't play around.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Waste management is the only one you can like rip shirt and throw a beer at. And it's just that specific hole too. Golf is a gentleman's game.


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[Assistant] Right, we also got, this is like two years ago, like, like these like teenage, these tweens on TikTok started dragging his mock traps every week.


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[Assistant] Alright, can we kick off the show by me asking you guys both a question?


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[Assistant] If you could use the franchise tag, but you only get one on one person at CBS, who would it be?


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[Assistant] See, can I use the non-exclusive tag on Pete Prisco just to put him through the misery of having to negotiate with any and all potential offers out there?


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[Assistant] Right? Like, just put them out there, right? Now, you can franchise tag it, but you want the non-exclusive franchise tag to make Pete go through the mental gymnastics of dealing with all of that and potentially finding out what is, what is market worth is, which could be really disappointing for Pete.


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[Assistant] Does that set us into our first topic by the way?


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[Assistant] He very well could get Priscoed here. I think that the tough thing is, and I do think it'd be wise if we had Breach kind of go through all the details of now what can happen over the course of the next few months. But my initial reaction to that is, I think there's one team.


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[Assistant] That they're not interested, which is a bit, it's a bit shocking honestly. I mean, he's a huge upgrade for them.


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[Assistant] Arthur Smith, you can make the case on the hot seat if they don't win this year. And Arthur Blank has deep pockets and we've seen him pay quarterbacks in the past like Matt Ryan. Now maybe he regrets that because they didn't really have success after that, you know, standpoint or as much success as they had hoped. So maybe he wants to stay away from paying a guy $230.


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[Assistant] A million in total guaranteed contract, which is what he's looking for.


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[Assistant] The only other team that I think there's like a track record or history of this is the Washington Commanders.


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[Assistant] Dan Schneider has been known to want to bring in top talented guys. It's been a long time, but the Deon Sanders, the Bruce Smiths, those sorts of, those sorts of signings back in the day, he's got the pockets to be able to do it.


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[Assistant] And I also wonder if it's not a, dare I say a distraction technique that maybe he would utilize too with everything else that's going on with the Washington commanders. So I know someone just threw out the Raiders there. I don't know that that's the direction that they'll want to go.


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[Assistant] A, because I don't know that Mark Davis is liquid enough to be able to put $230 million total guarantee in escrow.


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[Assistant] But B, the system that Joshua Daniels runs, they're in a position to draft a quarterback. It seems like Jimmy Garoppolo and a draft pick are probably the more likely scenario in Las Vegas.


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[Assistant] It does. There's definitely a stench there. It doesn't make sense to considering Lamar Jackson's been a better player than Deshaun Watson over the course of his career. So if you're in on Deshaun, you figure, especially considering Lamar hasn't had some of the off the field issues that Sean Watson's dealt with.


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[Assistant] That you would be in on Jackson in this case. Uh, but you're also talking about a time too where both Carolina and Atlanta are in positions to go take a quarterback in the top 10. If the right guy falls to them, potentially move up. There's still a lot of time before the draft.


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[Assistant] So maybe that's more of the plan moving forward. I, I can't imagine that it's going to be Matt Corral in Carolina or Desmond Ritter, uh, in Atlanta moving forward. You'd have to be thinking that both these teams are potentially looking at either a free agent or kind of a combination of that, uh, and looking at the draft as well.


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[Assistant] I guess I'd like to be naive to it as a player thinking that there's not collusion amongst owners, but I do think there's kind of like an unwritten rule right now where no one's going to want to guarantee or you have another fully guaranteed deal. Like that's the last thing.


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[Assistant] Uh, that the owners want. It's something that the players haven't been able to unify well enough at any point in time to be able to go get. And even for guys like Kirk Cousins who've tried to provide an example of a roadmap as to how to get it, you still see many guys don't follow suit. So I'll be curious to see how this works out. I mean, bottom line is, you know, does a deal get done?


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[Assistant] Considering what hasn't gotten done with Baltimore, the team that drafted him, he doesn't have a representation. Does the deal get done if he finally signs up an agent? Like I, I do, I do tend to think that like that's.


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[Assistant] That's one of the things that's out there that like, if he wants that guaranteed deal, he's go find agent, like someone who could actually go out there and negotiate these terms and figure out like where that's realistic and then what team maybe they should be focusing on. If he via the NFLPA is trying to do this on his own or with the consultation of the NFLPA, I don't think they're going to have a better result when it's all said and done.


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[Assistant] He just doesn't, he's not gonna need an agent then. Right? Like, like he, I think, I think that's the, that's what he knows going into it.


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[Assistant] As you may be saying, I need you to give me the best deal possible. It's fully guaranteed.


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[Assistant] And then he can come back with those numbers. So if he doesn't like it, but the bottom line is he hasn't had an agent up to this point. I think the whole point of him getting an agent is to get that deal that he wants. I don't know that he's just going to list to some guys pushing some of their deal. That's not going to be there. We'll just say, I'll put it in the franchise tag for another year.


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[Assistant] There's the element of, I think, working with different teams in their front offices and understanding, like, what's realistically out there, right? I mean, maybe he's not going to do exactly what Deshaun Watson's deal is, is a five-year, full and guaranteed deal, but maybe he gets a shorter version of that.


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[Assistant] I mean at this point, imagine he's got some sort of management service, some sort of consultation outside of even the NFLPA helping with this.


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[Assistant] Can I ask this question? Is this the worst case scenario for Lamar or would have been getting the exclusive franchise tag better?


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[Assistant] It doesn't go anywhere anyways, like, then they're just like, ah, harumph, we look for clues, harumph.


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[Assistant] Let's, let's talk about timing though too because I don't know that Breach got to talk about like every little detail of it, right? Because he has basically up until now and is until July 17th or the 22nd Breach where teams can submit offer sheets.


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[Assistant] To be able to potentially get his services and the two first round picks would go to Baltimore. Is that the timeframe to get a long-term deal negotiated?


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[Assistant] So the interesting thing about that though is like not every team is able to really negotiate with them. Like Will and I were talking about this before the show. Like the Dolphins can't until after the 2023 draft because they don't have a first round pick, right?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I-I-I'm really hoping, by the way, for a Tom, Brady, Robert, and Casper reunion in Miami. Anyway, uhm.


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[Assistant] So to that point, Miami's not pursuing them, but like teams like what, the Rams, Browns, not that they would either, 49ers, they wouldn't be able to either, at least not until after the draft, even if they wanted to, because they don't have the consecutive year's first round picks. However, they could agree essentially though, to a sign and trade, right? He signs the, the tag.


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[Assistant] They trade then, you know, foreign from Baltimore, whatever that conversation is negotiated, and that team agrees to a long-term deal. That is still on the table, correct?


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[Assistant] I wonder how much of the behind the scenes too has kind of gotten around the league, you know, and just some people that I know within the Baltimore Ravens organization is people have talked about him being kind of a handful, you know, as great of a player as he is, there's some things that they obviously haven't appreciated.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that may be something too that makes them a little less attractive. Especially as you're coming on a draft class, now you have four quarterbacks you could look at and say, could be first round talents. You have two that are probably better than any of the quarterbacks in this year's draft class in next year's, right? In Caleb Williams and Drake May. Uh, and that's not to say there's not gonna be more along with that class. So,


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[Assistant] I think if you're a team that's looking for a quarterback in the short term, right now you're probably looking at some of your prospects saying,


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[Assistant] I feel like this guy's gonna be a lot cheaper and maybe a much less headache that I have to deal with when I'm talking about what Lamar Jackson might bring along with him.


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[Assistant] Would you say the liquidity issue too and just having enough cash to be able to pay him what he's looking for in order to make it work? That's another restraint. Like I think we're actually getting to a point now where you look across the NFL with all these quarterbacks who have contracts are up.


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[Assistant] That's going to become a huge issue moving forward as far as the haves and have nots and how they're able to at least sign on their quarterbacks and, you know, build a roster. Let's say we won a Superbowl.


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[Assistant] This one is, uh, it's not surprising. I know some folks in the front office for the Giants and I talked to them after the season. They said, hey, look, he earned it. We're going to be happy to pay him whatever it ends up coming to.


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[Assistant] I really thought though this would go down to the end where they'd go to a non-exclusive franchise tag route.


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[Assistant] Cause I don't know that there would have been much of a market for Daniel Jones. It just, it's a bit surprising when you look at the numbers and you compare him to some of the other quarterbacks and him making essentially what 41 million, uh, over the course of the next couple of seasons for what 15 touchdown passes this past year.


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[Assistant] I know they're bullish on him, uh, and you can talk to me about how they didn't have the type of talent around them and wide receiver to equate to the sort of success in the passing game, but.


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[Assistant] I think they're going to find themselves a year from now in a position where they're still asking themselves whether or not he ultimately is the guy. And they'll have him under contract and that's great, but that's the toughest part.


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[Assistant] Probably a better fan of them using the tag on mine in some capacity. And then letting Saquon Barkley go into free agency and then figuring out what his market is. And look, you use a tag on Saquon so you get to keep both.


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[Assistant] But the hard part is, is, you know, Daniel Jones has played his best football with Saquon Barkley. Saquon Barkley is not a part of that backfield. Daniel Jones isn't the same quarterback. So if it's hard to differentiate the two, you know, maybe you're, you're looking at Daniel Jones saying if that's what he needs and he needs that much more out around him, how's he ultimately going to compete with some of the best in the league and try to win a Super Bowl? But it's all said and done.


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[Assistant] No, that's a good question. I mean, only they know internally that I think the thing I was going to transition is asking is what does he even rank in the NFC East as far as quarterbacks? Is he third?


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[Assistant] Probably keeping Saquon Barkley, yes, you know, you've got more, more of an assured product of what he is. And Daniel Jones, you're hoping he can build, you know, off of what he did this past year. And I just, I think it's hard to believe or it's hard to think that there wouldn't potentially have been another option. I mean, let's just put it this way. If you could have gotten Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] Would that not have been an upgrade? Now granted, you gotta pay em, but the reality is, you might have had the opportunity to look for other options that might have been better than the current quarterback you're now paying. At least $82,090, some virtually guaranteed over the course of the next couple of seasons.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's a rookie and maybe even have a bridge like Jimmy Garoppolo. Either way, Garoppolo is injury prone. And if you have to make that transition, you're not putting the rookie out there without any help. So you've got the ability to rely on Josh Jacobs, really, you know, toting the rock for another year and helping carry that rookie through that through the season.


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[Assistant] The Pollard one, that's not surprising. I do feel like eventually they can maybe work out a long-term deal to help reduce some of that cap hit. But I also would wonder like, have we ever seen a team?


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[Assistant] Allocate as much of their cap space to the running back position as the Dallas Cowboys. Like, is this the biggest number we've ever seen?


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[Assistant] You don't think it gets cut? You don't think Jerry walks in there and just does the sweet talk?


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[Assistant] I do, I do appreciate hearing everyone's Jerry Jones impersonation. I feel like everyone's got one at some point in time. They heard something, maybe they met him, they spoke to him for a second. It's just, it's some odd impression that everyone can do.


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[Assistant] Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. I think I was there. I just wasn't really sure why anyone would, you know, combine the two.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's, it's not looking good. Uh, and it doesn't seem like, you know, Jerry Jones was talking overly favorably about DAC, but what is he ever, uh, besides the, before a record breaking contract, right?


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[Assistant] Look, he's matured a lot from his time in the New York Jets, which, I mean, now looking back on his two years with the Jets, I think they'd be clamoring to have him back. Uhm, that being said though, uh, kudos to him, man. He capitalized on the opportunity that was given. He's been able to roll it into literally almost three times what, more than what he's made his entire career up to this point in this next season.


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[Assistant] It seems like though it's a premium for a bridge gap quarterback maybe based on the structure of this. Like does this necessarily negate the Seahawks from taking a quarterback at what, five? I believe they're at.


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[Assistant] He's the prospect that I think, you know, relates the most to what they look for, right? Like someone with big arm.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, athletic skills, but it just extraordinary talent, right? And not necessarily the CJ Stroud types. You can come in right away, be a pocket passer.


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[Assistant] Pick you apart, be the most accurate and all that. Like they want someone who can just do something extraordinary that no one else in the NFL can do. And Anthony Richardson has some of that ability I think would be capable, especially with DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett and they don't hand off the Kenneth Walker.


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[Assistant] Like they've got some pieces there, the offensive line played really well, uh, which is ironic considering Russell leaves and now all of a sudden they make two draft picks and end up working out well finally.


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[Assistant] But no, like that's the player that I think it might be worth it for them, uh, to, to be able to double dip here. And they go with Gino and they go with Anthony Richardson and they feel pretty confident about where they're at at the quarterback spot for not only the short term, but obviously the long term as well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that being said though, I also think it might be like the Super Bowl effect, right? Where you've got the ability to lure those guys back. Hey, go out, see what your market worth is.


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[Assistant] And you have a chance to win a Superbowl. So uhm, they're, they're kind of now the New England Patriots in the sense of getting guys to come in now and take a discount or to be part of it. And I think you also have to recognize the fact that no one had more rookies than the Chiefs play this year. So they're not afraid to draft those guys, play them and be able to hit on a lot of those picks.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure if you know this, you're on islands when you're out there playing cornerback at a time, especially when you get exposed to safety. I'd much rather put a rookie on an offensive line, especially some of the young guys they've had that have played well, uh, where you've got some help and you can kind of scheme around it. There's nothing you can do when you want to play man to man and you've got a bad matchup there, Breach.


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[Assistant] The truth is, I'll say this is, for the offensive line that they had in that game, the fact that they ran as many 5-man p- uh, pass protections was absurd. So, there was a little bit of a scheme issue there. Well, I don't know that they do that the second time around after experiencing that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and look, we could debate this all day long. Trust me, from experience, I'd much rather have a younger player on offensive line with help and ways of protecting that as opposed to a young secondary where I was a quarterback. That's the one, put a bunch of young guys in front of me. I know I can get the ball out quick if I've got a bunch of rookies that I'm throwing against. Unless they're of course, Sal Skardner.


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[Assistant] You know, that's coming. So you probably want to figure that out first before we start working out some other pieces that, you know, again, they might find greater pastors elsewhere, but this is also a team that I think is going to be able to stay amongst the playoff and Super Bowl hopefuls in the NFC for a while. I mean, let's be honest. If Rogers does indeed get traded from the Packers,


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[Assistant] To the New York Jets, and let's say for example that, you know, you've got Lamar Jackson, we don't know necessarily where he'd go, but uhm, you know, if he stays within the AFC or stays within, you know, Baltimore,


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[Assistant] Look at this logjam of quarterbacks in the AFC as compared to what you have in the NFC. I mean, Jalen Hurts and the Eagles are by far and away the best team. They've got a clear path. I mean, I guess you're looking at what, Derek Carr and the Saints?


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[Assistant] I'm not even sure who the quarterback is going to be next season. I guess we're expecting Trey Lance for the 49ers. And so maybe Brock Purdy can come back healthy. I mean, you start looking at the landscape of what the NFC looks like.


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[Assistant] It seems like a clear path and these guys should probably want to be a part of that moving forward. Seems like a fun environment too under Nick Sariani, like he keeps things pretty fresh. Um, I am curious though to see that if you don't get some players plucked away by Jonathan Gannon now too, especially defensive guys that they've got. Um, nowadays the head coach for theirs under Cardinals.


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[Assistant] I'm looking at the Rams though thinking to myself like, look, you've got a lot of staff turnover for the Rams. We'll see how Stafford comes back this season. Alan Robinson looks like he's either what can be traded or released. Not that he had a great year for them, but I think he was playing banged up too. And I still think he's, he's got some tread on his tire.


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[Assistant] Uh, just kind of interesting to see like they're still a part of that favorite mix, but it feels like they're more in rebuild mode right now. And I'm not sure the best football is, is, you know, still ahead of them. So.


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[Assistant] The Seahawks might be, have some sneaky value there, at least as trying to make a push with San Francisco, but San Francisco is still the favorite. The Ross was too talented. Uh, even if it is Trey Lance at quarterback, we know it's not Jimmy G or Brock Pretty at some point, but.


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[Assistant] Uh, they, they should still be number one. It is a bit odd though that the Cardinals are as low as they are. I mean, are we really not believing Jonathan Ganna can't turn that around at all?


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[Assistant] Well, look at Shanahan's win-loss record with a quarterback outside of Jimmy Garoppolo. I mean, until this past year with Brock Purdy, uh, it wasn't looking too good. And I still think as a whole during, at San Francisco, it's even 500, even with Purdy this past season.


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[Assistant] It's crazy how fast it flipped, right? I mean, we were talking about this team dominating the AFC East for so long. Tom Brady leaves, and now we look at them potentially as the worst in the division. It's, it's crazy to think that, uhm, although, I mean, we're looking at the odds, I would say juiced a little bit, as you said, for Rodgers being there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I don't think it's gonna happen though. I think if Rogers leaves Green Bay, this is probably the most likely destination. And, uh, I would actually say you might be bullish on the bills. I would go ahead and take those odds now on the chance with Rogers.


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[Assistant] Hell yeaah. Plus odds right now, especially considering the red. I mean look, Deshaun did not look good last year for the Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] We'll see how, uh, what, you know, how they improve, um, this off season. Obviously revamp defense too with the new DC. Uh, I guess they're not expecting Kenny Pickens to get a big step, um, you know, in his second year starting. Matt Canada is still there as the offense coordinator. I know a lot of.


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[Assistant] Steelers fans are not happy about that. So this one's the easiest to handicap to me. Like I think it's the bangles all day and take it now before it gets any better.


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[Assistant] Part of the roster moving forward this year with the restructure and he's happy. So maybe that's going to work out with Crystal Lave and Kamara. When, when healthy their offensive lines, one of the better in the NFL and they still got a good defense. I mean, I just.


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[Assistant] They seem like by far and away, I wouldn't say it's a cakewalk, it's the NFL, but for a division where you had an 8-9 winner go to the playoffs last year, I would think that the Saints and Derek Carr should be able to run away with this one.


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[Assistant] Let's say it's not Lamar, let's say it's Jimmy G. Like are you then looking at going, okay, like I can see them winning nine games.


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[Assistant] I mean, they throw a Hail Mary and get Aaron Rodgers, obviously that's the only way these odds improve. Outside of that, I mean, obviously the Josh Jacobs franchise tag doesn't really do much.


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[Assistant] Is this line baked in for Rodgers being the starter next year? I think Jordan Love. Cause if it's Jordan Love, it's way too high.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's definitely had a few rough years at Kentucky here recently, but I do think-


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, we could argue about whether he should have gotten that lifetime contract when he did, but I'll save that for a different podcast. I do think we're going to see more open brackets, uh, year to year now, because I think you're seeing more competition because of what you said, the talent being spread.


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[Assistant] How you feeling? Seven rounds too, right? Is that what I heard? Seven rounds.


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[Assistant] I tend to think he's going to end up leaving. Uh, you know, it's kind of dependent upon the timeline. I saw a tweet earlier today saying that if the Colts do not get their quarterback of choice in the draft, maybe they go for Lamar Jackson, but


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[Assistant] In that situation, I would think Baltimore would be inclined to hold onto him because they wouldn't have another option at the quarterback position. Whereas if a trade were to happen over the next month.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe they're able to take one of these rookie quarterbacks that we're going to be talking about, uhm, not only today, but over the next couple of months. So I'm inclined to think he's probably going to be traded at some point in time, but I'm really curious to see how the timing works out.


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[Assistant] In Indianapolis or Atlanta are really motivated to put that offer sheet in now because you would think multiple teams are going to be interested. Now it's a matter of putting together a package that's going to be not only intriguing for, uh, the Ravens, but also Lamar Jackson, getting him to sign that contract is the first step here. So is somebody going to rush to make that happen here in the next couple of weeks?


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[Assistant] I think things have actually gotten a little bit toxic here because if you look back at the combine


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[Assistant] Baltimore was saying all the right things. We're now hearing that Lamar requested a trade on March 2nd.


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[Assistant] Today is March 27th, you know, so what has changed? Why are, why are these negotiations suddenly being played out on social media over the past week plus, you know, there's got to be some kind of a change in dynamic that has led to Lamar being a little bit more vocal, um, about his situation over social media.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I've got nothing. I'm kind of on the same page with you, I feel like.


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[Assistant] Now we're just waiting to see who's actually interested because the days after...


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[Assistant] Uh, we heard about this non-exclusive franchise tag. All these reports started coming out about how team X and team Y were not interested. And at the time, you know, Lamar is representing himself. So technically teams couldn't talk to Lamar at that time. So they had to say they're not interested because otherwise that was tampering at that point. But now that.


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[Assistant] Teams were allowed to negotiate with him now that we're in kind of a more transparent part of the offseason.


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[Assistant] Do some of these teams start publicly making it known?


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[Assistant] That they do have interest in Lamar Jackson, uhm, and you know, begin working on that trade over the next month and a half.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree. I think there's some frustration within the Indianapolis building about the quarterback situation since Andrew Luck retired. You know, they've had stop gap after stop gap.


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[Assistant] At the same time, you know Lamar has control over which contract he's going to sign.


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[Assistant] Going all in on that process. I understand they're saying all the right things about Desmond Ritter and having faith in him moving forward, but you have to say that because there's no certainty they're going to get one of the top quarterbacks in this draft class if they're even interested. Maybe they truly do not see.


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[Assistant] One of these quarterbacks being better than what they already have in the building. But I think it would not be wise to rule out Atlanta based on how aggressive they pursued Dashawn a year ago.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think some of them are probably open to the opportunities. Some of them are probably looking at the offensive tackles. They've got a pair of offensive tackles that could go in the first round, whether it's Parrish Johnson Jr. or Dewan Jones. I think that's probably the case.


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[Assistant] For Pittsburgh, because they need offensive line help there in the middle of the first round. I know the Bills specifically were really paying attention to the defensive backs when they were there. The Giants, I would have to imagine are probably in the mix and the same goes for the Packers.


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[Assistant] I'm probably very interested in Jackson Smith and Jigba who had a tremendous combine experience and is probably rising up the board.


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[Assistant] Uh, back up to where he started this process, uh, uh, yet again. So one team that I do think is interesting that has been present at, um, Ohio State and Kentucky's Pro Days with Will Levis, um, was Mike Frable.


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[Assistant] You know, the Titans are sitting there just outside of the top 10. You've got Ryan Tannehill. Is this a team that feels they're in a position to move on and try to get a younger player at that position? Because they've really gone through kind of this identity change over the past.


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[Assistant] Yeah, really. You move on from AJ Brown. Everybody thinks that it's Derek Henry's team moving forward.


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[Assistant] And now Derek Henry, you know, a lot of the buzz this off season has been that Tennessee is open to moving him. So what is this franchise going to do moving forward? It feels like they're very open to a total reset.


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[Assistant] I will say one other thing that is very interesting about when we talk about the teams that have been present at a Pro Day are the teams that are not present. I did not see the top decision makers from Houston or Indianapolis at either Ohio State or Kentucky's Pro Day, so.


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[Assistant] You know, it's all public posturing. You know, you're trying to put a certain image out there. Uh, the Bears, before they took Mitchell Trubisky, had very little communication with him. Uhm, so I'm sure a lot of this is happening privately.


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[Assistant] But it's interesting to see the different strategic approaches these teams are taking.


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[Assistant] Uhm, to being at, at, at these quarterback pro days. I mean, the Seahawks, every pro day that they've been to of these quarterbacks, they've taken a selfie with the, with that quarterback. So not only are they saying, hey, we're going to be here, we're going to be present, but they're letting everybody know about it too. So it's just been very interesting to see how they've gone about that.


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[Assistant] Or do they want you to think it's a game? That's what the NFL Draft process does to us. Do they want us to think one thing and then we start thinking that and then the reality is the opposite? I mean...


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[Assistant] You know, this is the season of misdirection and the NFL draft cycle really is, uhm, you know, something you have to take with a grain of salt. So you may try to convince yourself of one thing, but then you could easily make a case for the opposite as well.


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[Assistant] I probably wouldn't just because I probably value draft picks a little bit more as a draft guy. Uhm, I do know that Houston really likes some of these quarterback options in this class, so.


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[Assistant] From that perspective, I think Carolina and Houston are probably the two teams that are going to remove themselves from this process and feel comfortable with their evaluations. I would imagine.


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[Assistant] So it really boils down to, you know, trusting your own evaluations. If you're Houston and you're Carolina and you have a true conviction about these quarterback prospects, you're not probably not interested in Lamar.


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[Assistant] But I think once you get past those top two picks, you know, it's, it's fair game. It's open season. I think you can make a case for a lot of those teams. So I don't think that Houston will be in the mix personally because of how, how much they value these rookie quarterbacks. Uh, but beyond that it is, it is open season. I could see any team getting involved. What about the Jets?


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[Assistant] They haven't made it for Aaron Rodgers yet. You know, that's still out there. If Green Bay wants to play games, hey, we'll go get Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it could be a good fit just utilizing some of that wide zone type stuff that, uh, you know, they probably intend to do. Uhm, I'll pose the question a little bit differently here because,


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[Assistant] One thing that we have to consider is it really is Lamar's decision at this point. So, and the answer may be the Jets here, but if you're Lamar of the reasonable options that are probably going to be available, which team would you ultimately like to go to? Which team is the best set up?


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[Assistant] Uhm, to be that team that you can take to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would hope he didn't need to say that. I would hope that Purdy's, uh, run into the playoffs would be enough to kind of put Lance on notice. Uh, but I really don't have a problem with this. I mean, they fell short of naming a starter at the position.


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[Assistant] Kind of declaring it an open competition, but kind of putting the ball back in Lance's court.


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[Assistant] As well. So if that's gonna motivate both of these guys this off season through training camp, I think that's a good scenario for San Francisco to come out of this process with the best quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yeah, really impressive when you look at what they were able to accomplish at the combine. Uh, Jack Campbell, you know, he came in 6'5", 272, tremendous size, but what he did during the athletic portion of the, or sorry, 6'5", 249,


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[Assistant] Uhm, was fantastic what he did on the field. 465 seconds in the 40 yard dash. Uh, 37.5 vertical jump.


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[Assistant] You've got a 10 foot eight broad jump. I mean, those are tremendous numbers from a player of that size, especially at the linebacker position. So I think what he was able to accomplish is really going to boost his stock up over the next month and a half. I think he's suddenly one of those players that you're considering there in the second round.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I agree. I think Levis, what he showed at his pro day, probably cements himself as a first round pick. Uh, seeing both Stroud and Levis in person, you kind of get a feel for both of them as passers. Uh, Stroud is a little bit more surgical, he's got more rhythm.


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[Assistant] Levis has that tremendous arm strength. You see the mobility. He's capable of making these throws, uh, these NFL throws that other quarterbacks simply cannot make.


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[Assistant] So if he's able to do that consistently, you're talking about a player that could be the best quarterback from this draft class, uhm, you know, when you look back in hindsight. But now that I've kind of got my notes in order here, we'll go through some of these, some of these other, uh, risers in the process. You mentioned Van Ness. Uh, he was the one that was 6'5", 272.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he had a 4-5-8 second 40-yard dash, uhm, you know, tested, jumped very well, tested very well. Uhm, you look at his game film, he's a player that is built through power. When you see the athletic numbers that he was putting on tape,


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[Assistant] That is a player that you feel like has upside to be, you know, a more productive rush or be a little bit more well-rounded.


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[Assistant] Andre Joschevas, a wide receiver from Princeton. Uhm, he's been very productive throughout his career. Obviously an intelligent guy coming out of Princeton. Uh, 443, uh, in the, in the 40 yard dash. He's six foot three, 205, 39 inch vertical jumps.


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[Assistant] Essentially all you need to know is that he tested explosively, he's very fast, and I thought he looked good during the on-field portion of the event as well. So this isn't just, you know, a player that's


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[Assistant] That he has a little bit more potential in that regard. Uh, Zach Koontz, a tight end from Old Dominion, formerly of Penn State. He played five games this past season before suffering a season ending injury.


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[Assistant] So he was off the team's radar a little bit. Now they're kind of getting more information on him and he was six foot seven, 255 pounds.


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[Assistant] I ran a four five five in the 40 yard dash, 40 inch vertical jump, 10 foot eight broad jump. Again, just fantastic numbers at that position and somebody that's going to open eyes in this very deep tight end class.


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[Assistant] No question, former number one overall recruit coming out of high school, uhm, 6 foot 5, 302 pounds at the pro, at the combine, he ran 486 in the 40 yard dash, 1.71 seconds in a 10 yard split. So you really see the potential that he has.


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[Assistant] Uhm, not only, you know, as an interior defender, stopping the run, but rushing the passer as well. He's somebody that has those attributes that you feel could be a little bit more than just your run-stuffing interior defender. Uhm, I didn't think that he played up to the hype this season.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, he was a little bit inconsistent. I would have liked to see him dominate a little bit more with.


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[Assistant] Was dealing with a tremendous amount of adversity. I mean, he was dealing with health issues as well. So you kind of have to give him a little bit of grace in this period.


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[Assistant] And I think we kind of saw him come back to form, not only at the Combine.


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[Assistant] But his pro day as we're watching right now, you see the athletic potential of this guy.


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[Assistant] In the interior defensive line, it's very difficult to find quality players like Brazil. So when you have an opportunity to draft him.


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[Assistant] He's going to go up a little bit higher than what you would expect because that is such a difficult position to fill.


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[Assistant] I will say this, Josh Allen coming out of Wyoming is not the Josh Allen that we know today either. So I'm not saying that Levis is going to be that player. I think that's a very dangerous comparison and it's one that a lot of people have tried to make.


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[Assistant] I like to compare him to Wyoming Josh Allen, not the Buffalo Bills version of Josh Allen. He is a player with all of the athletic traits to be successful.


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[Assistant] He just has to put it together. When you look at Allen coming out of college, you look at Levis over the past year at Kentucky, both of them battled injuries in their final year. Uhm, so they both overcome adversity. They've both been on teams that, you know, maybe did not live up to expectations. Maybe they didn't have the best supporting cast.


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[Assistant] You're going to a team that has a top, top pick. You would think that they're probably not going to be a team that is best positioned to succeed immediately. So when you have.


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[Assistant] That kind of a track record, you know, rising in that kind of a setting.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, if Levis were to end up in that situation, I'm not saying that he would be Josh Allen, but he would have an opportunity to reach that point.


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[Assistant] To Allen's credit, he was the one that was putting in the work in the offseason. He was the one, you know, dedicating all this extra time to his craft.


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[Assistant] Now it's on Levis to kind of make that same transition. He's got some room for improvements and he's going to have an opportunity to walk in the door and help a team wherever he lands.


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[Assistant] I like Seattle, uhm, just because he would have the opportunity to sit behind Geno Smith and learn a little while. Their offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron, came from the Rams, which is the same offense that Liam Cohen, the former and again now current,


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[Assistant] Offensive coordinator Kentucky ran with Levis, uh, the year that he had his, his most success. So I think that's a possible fit for him. I do like Frank Reich and his ability to relate to young quarterbacks and what that could mean for a player like Levis or Anthony Richardson.


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[Assistant] Uhm, a player that, you know, they're kind of in similar regards. They've got all the athletic talents.


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[Assistant] They're a little rough around the edges. They just need some coaching and a little bit of time to, you know, to possibly reach their potential. So I look at Seattle. I look at Carolina.


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[Assistant] Being a couple of situations that could possibly help these young quarterbacks


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think one other thing, one other thing that I will say, uhm, you see this interesting dynamic in Carolina because when you have a head coach and a general manager, that is a short-term role if you do not succeed. So I could see them being drawn to a Bryce Young or a CJ Stroud in that regard.


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[Assistant] But if the owner, David Tepper, comes over the top and he says, hey, Levis is my guy, that's the guy I want.


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[Assistant] They have to listen to their boss, you know, so it could be Levis even though the coach and the general manager prefer somebody else. That's the interesting dynamic that you sometimes see happen in an NFL war room. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think you have to start with Army's, uh, Army Edresher Andre Carter, a player that is tremendously long, somebody that has been, you know, propped up by his athletic traits, his capabilities at the position, somebody that, you know, has a thinner frame so he doesn't necessarily hold up at the point of attack, a little bit more of a liability.


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[Assistant] He had a vertical jump of 30 inches, broad jump of 9 feet 1 inches. Uhm, you know, those are not the numbers that you would expect from somebody that has this tremendous upside. So that's one player I think is, you know, dropping a little bit. Some of these other guys, it's a little bit more relative. Alabama Safety, Brian Branch, he didn't test like a first round pick.


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[Assistant] But I think he has the intelligence of a first round pick, if that makes sense. So while he may get dragged down a little bit by NFL teams because he didn't have this fantastic testing and, you know, stuff that they often look for as far as athletic testing is concerned,


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[Assistant] I think his play speaks for itself. I think he's a first round caliber talent that's probably not going to get his credit that he deserves because he didn't test in that fashion. Uh, a player that's, you know, maybe he ran closer to a 4, 6, 40 yard dash, but if you're operating 0.2 seconds faster than somebody that's running a 4, 4, you know, a 4, 5,


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[Assistant] That's more valuable to me. Somebody that has this great awareness for the game. So even though Branch is probably going to go lower than, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, than what we initially thought. I still think he's that caliber of a prospect to warrant that type of consideration.


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[Assistant] Uh, Miles Murphy, he didn't compete at the pro day or his combine. Uh, he's going to have a private workout on April 4th. So he's got a shot to.


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[Assistant] You know, kind of get his, his draft stock moving back in the right direction because you see players like Lucas Van Ness, uh, Nolan Smith from Georgia kind of rising up the board.


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[Assistant] And that inherently is going to push a player like Miles Murphy down, so.


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[Assistant] You see him being available in the mid portion of the round, of the first round, even into the 20s in some mock drafts now. And I don't think that that is warranted either. I think his, his, his upside, uh, is probably that of a top 10 player in this class.


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[Assistant] But when you look at what he hasn't done to this point and the fact that his 2021 tape was better than 2022, he's a player that I could see dropping down the board a little bit relatively speaking. Jalen Carter.


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[Assistant] He's been talked about quite a bit at this point. Uhm, I don't want to, you know, rag on him too much because again, when you have the legal situation that he was dealing with.


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[Assistant] It makes sense for a young man to put on a little bit of weight and, you know, not be able to finish his workout, so.


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[Assistant] It's a bit of a red flag, it's concerning, but you don't want to pile on him because at the end of the day, this is still a young guy that uhm, you know, is dealing with a lot. The public scrutiny that he was under


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[Assistant] It's understandable what he was going through over the past couple of weeks. So I'm trying not to pile on him too much, but that's going to be.


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[Assistant] How much had his weight kind of, you know, fluctuated since his combine weigh-in where he was 374 pounds?


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[Assistant] Uh, somebody that is that size, like a Mackay Beckton, that was taking number 11 overall, he ran a 5'1, 40-yard dash. DeJuan Jones is, you know, a 5'3, 5'. So those are not the same caliber of athletes. So, you know, relatively speaking,


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[Assistant] Uh, most recently I had them taking CJ Stroud. Uhm, they have taken all of these quarterbacks out to dinner. They've gotten to know them personally. So, uh, I'm sure they have a conviction at this point who they're probably leaning towards.


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[Assistant] The idea that maybe it's not just CJ Stroud or Bryce Young at this point because, uh, the year that Baker Mayfield was taken number one overall.


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[Assistant] Uh, 48 hours, 72 hours before that selection. Everybody thought it was gonna be Sam Darnold.


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[Assistant] Or, um, Josh Allen in that draft class. So what we think we know outwardly, we don't necessarily know. And we know even less when you look back.


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[Assistant] Five years down the road, uh, and see how these quarterbacks have played out, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there will not be a second left on the clock either when they do come, you know, on the board at number one overall, they will take all of their time just like we do every year. Uh, and I get frustrated about annually.


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[Assistant] That's just a lot of us here as a person, Kelly Mox by the way, that you didn't take the opportunity to just be like, for instance, it was late and just let everyone believe it and run with it because like you couldn't, like you could have easily done that and just been like, it's his fault. The guy in the green


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[Assistant] Like actually knit vineyard vine shirt, which is something I haven't worn in a while. Like a non like, it's like a non like, uh, like you wouldn't want to play golf in this cause it would be, it'd be heavy.


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[Assistant] It's one of those old school ones. Um, and I also appropriately am wearing an Althea hat, which is a song.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't talk about it, I wouldn't talk about any platform in which you're paid for, you're paid money by CBS, I'll tell you that much.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying Kyle Porter was there and took a bunch of pictures of it and tweeted them out and then they disappeared. That's all I'm saying.


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[Assistant] And he had to go left handed with a club and hit it left handed.


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[Assistant] He actually made contact, good contact, according to someone who was watching the shot, but hit a cameraman.


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[Assistant] And the shot dropped down and he got so pissed off. This is like, this is his final masters that he snapped a club over his knee. Now, if you go on masters.com and try to watch that shot, it is disappeared. It is back to back shots of his third shot. I wouldn't don't you don't you don't.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I want, I want like, I want, I want, it sucks because you don't want to root for somebody to melt down. But when Rom, well when Rom, uh, when Brooks made


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[Assistant] See, Rom missed his birdie putt and Brooks made his on 16.


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[Assistant] And Rama's closer, Brooks had a longer plot, but buried his is like, all right. If we get birdie bogey on 17.


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[Assistant] That is a one stroke lead going into 18. And you saw an 18, even with like a four stroke lead, Rom still. Hossles rocketed his ball to the left into, you know, and then it got lucky when he got kicked out and hit it. But as Trevor, as our colleague, Trevor Elman said, I've never seen a, um,


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[Assistant] A Masters champion hit a provisional ball on 18. That just doesn't happen.


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[Assistant] And Rama so worried that he didn't know where his ball was that he hit a provisional. Now he probably still would have won anyway. Cause you're, you know, you're, you're one in drop to hit three, you're lying three where the provisional goes.


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[Assistant] And you hit, you know, an approach shot and two pots. You can make a six, even if Brooks, like Brooks would have to eagle.


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[Assistant] To, to make, to, to shrink the gap, I guess, or maybe he could have birdied and the point being is like.


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[Assistant] What Trapp said is like the, the lack of drama down the stretch for me is like, that's what makes The Masters great is like.


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[Assistant] I want to see the pre-, you know, we saw even 12 and 13, Ram had such a, well, I would say that, so 12, he had a very safe shot.


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[Assistant] And on 13 he pressed the gas down a little bit because he knew he had to win with him and he played that, you know, he usually plays a fade from left to right. He played a draw, a hard draw around that corner knowing that he could put himself in a position where he was going to be able to make


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[Assistant] Birdie at worst, you know, unless he just completely shanked one and then a 15 to be laid up to a distance. He liked knowing he's gonna go in the green. Just make part of it out of there. It like.


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[Assistant] The, the whole thing about the Masters and the final closing holes beginning with Eamonn Corner is that


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[Assistant] Like the whole concept of Augusta is that the back nine.


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[Assistant] Coming down the stretch on a Sunday is supposed to create insane drama. And just because of the way that the scoring worked and, and where everybody was like, you know, anybody who really made a push was like,


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[Assistant] You know, Mary center speech who'd gotten there, but they were in the clubhouse and Ron was just. He just, he knew how to play the course well enough that it didn't.


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[Assistant] It never, the, the back nine never really came into play and that's sort of the only disappointing thing. 40 years after Seve, Seve won the Masters on Seve's birthday, Seve Ballesteros.


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[Assistant] I think he's a very much a worthy master champion. Um, but it just lacked and we had the chance for drama too with three live guys in the top five.


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[Assistant] Well, we will all get in trouble for that. You'd much rather just like, did you see how quickly I disappeared after I said something about the master


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[Assistant] You know they'll be out here talking about how the Masters logo is trash, which obviously I don't feel because I am a huge Masters fan. I like the logo. Everyone loves the logo.


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[Assistant] Like, we will get canceled faster, but we won't, Billy will get fired. Okay, we can force him to play songs. No, I don't know what the fair usage thing is, but I don't think it applies to us. I don't think we get six seconds of these songs.


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[Assistant] Like Brady was, like, we work for CBS.


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[Assistant] And Brady was playing them like one shining moment and I'm fairly certain that was a major copyright violation on this part.


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[Assistant] Like those two guys are so lit. The Beatles not themselves, but like, you know.


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[Assistant] Uhm, connection there, I just sort of wanted to hear playing with the boys.


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[Assistant] You missed, this is actually where you, the most, the biggest reason you'd be upset about being, about uhm, running behind.


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[Assistant] Is that you missed our, missed me breaking down the entire music video of Kitty Loggins playing with the boys. Not the Top Gun version. In the movie where they're playing volleyball.


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[Assistant] But it's also these two groups of people who are like kind of good at what they do, but not really good at what they do. And they're not going to be. See, that's what we're tying it back in. Yeah. See. So like, it's like, and they're competing against each other, but not really because they kind of do the same thing. So it's like the linebackers and the safeties. That's what I got there. There you go. That's good.


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[Assistant] Did you ever buy a tape? A cassette tape? Oh, yes.


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[Assistant] I remember Pearl Jam 10 was my first tape, I believe.


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[Assistant] I have one, I have one before, I'm sorry, I lied, I have one before, 10, it was MC Hammer, please hammer, don't hurt.


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[Assistant] Literally talking about songs that define the obvious blind class. If anything, uhm, you know, you could...


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[Assistant] You can come up with a song by venturing off topics, like for instance, Hammer's Prey could be a song that you'd use for the quarterbacks. Um, if you, uh, I did not have hammer pants.


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[Assistant] Okay. We were like chain mail, like level like polos like this. Uhm, croquis, crocs.


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[Assistant] I went with Bob Dylan's changing of the guards. All right. I hear reference in plural not describing the offensive lineman because I think that there are


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[Assistant] Several of the top offensive linemen, even the tackles in this class, are sort of projected to slide inside like Peter Skowronski, who's probably the best offensive lineman in this class.


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[Assistant] The number one offensive lineman in the class, offensive tackle in the class probably kicks inside.


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[Assistant] No, you can say the same thing last year about Ikki or Kwon. A lot of teams, if they drafted, um, Ikki thought that he might have to slide inside. And so.


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[Assistant] To me, I just think it's very interesting that you have this interior offensive line class that you like, that you think is a good guard class. And then you also have this tackle class.


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[Assistant] That a lot of guys may have to kick inside the guard anyway. So changing of the guards actually works pretty well.


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[Assistant] It's uh, it's probably where REM stole it's the end of the world from.


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[Assistant] And when I was supposed to be in college, you know, like the actual timeframe of like,


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[Assistant] When I would have been in college like, you know, 2002.


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[Assistant] NUCLEAR HOT, like you turned that up loud, it's like BAM BAM.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we still make mixes, right? And by the way, shout out to Dom in the chat. He points out that Pearl James, do you guys know without looking, do you know what Pearl James' original name was going to be?


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[Assistant] When we were recording our first record, we had a per diem of about $10, so when we got lunch at the store across the street, we'd always buy a pack of basketball cards. When we turned it our first tape, we didn't have a name for the band yet, so we put a Mookie Blaylock card in the case. We better go on a tour and still have a name and need one quickly. We told it didn't need to be the name we're going to use forever, just something for the tour. Someone saw the Mookie Blaylock card and said, how about Mookie Blaylock?


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[Assistant] We decided to go with it and did a 10-show tour of the Alice's Chains as Mookie Blaylock.


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[Assistant] Mookie was cool about it too. He didn't sue us. I actually got to meet him later on and shoot around a little bit. We also made a Pearl Jam t-shirt with a picture of him on it. I guess we owe Mookie a lot.


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[Assistant] You're the best by Joe Esposito from the Karate Kid soundtrack.


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[Assistant] Yes, I'm aware I can't sing. Thank you very much. Uhm, but I think that like the B. John Robinson factor here is really interesting because


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[Assistant] He is, and I know, I know this, and maybe that's not fair to the rest of this class, but like he's so far above everyone else in this class, right?


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[Assistant] I would like to, I would like to, I'm not doubting you. I'm just saying like, I would like to, I need an anonymous scout saying, yeah, that's right. Maybe, maybe Bob McGinn will do this for us.


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[Assistant] When he does it, he usually does it on, uh, tylerlongstd.com, uh, which you should, everyone should subscribe to. But I think that like, in general, yeah.


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[Assistant] E. John Robinson is so friggin' good. We talked around before. Like literally gives me butterflies.


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[Assistant] Oh, uh, how about Chris Stapleton's Joy of My Life?


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[Assistant] If I had a first round pick, I'm using it on B. John Robinson. Now I'm not going to use a top 10 pick on him.


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[Assistant] But if my team needs a running back and we get to the point of the draft, I'm like, it's like 15 or something and Bijan Robinson's there and.


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[Assistant] Like, they just drafted Kenneth Walker.


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[Assistant] Last year. But they lost Rashad Penny and they want to run the ball a ton.


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[Assistant] He wouldn't be that crazy to drive. Be like, he's that good a prospect. And if you get him in the 10 to like 11 to 20 range, God forbid the 21 to 31 range, you're getting a discount based on the fact that where we would have seen running by strapped a billion, I were talking about biggest draft bus of all time recently. We're doing a little short for it.


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[Assistant] But uhm, was it, I'm trying to think, what year was, uh, what year was Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith?


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[Assistant] We're talking about the 05 draft. I threw out Alex Smith is not because I think he's was a disaster as a player.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, not exactly. The Niners did not get Aaron Rodgers and lost out on Aaron Rodgers' entire career because of Alex Smith. Now, it worked out or whatever because, I guess not really.


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[Assistant] Alex Smith 1, Ronnie Brown 2, Brayley numbers 3, Cedric Benson 4, Cadillac Williams 5.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but the point being is like, we're not even 20 years removed from 3 running backs going in the top 5 of the draft. Like that seems, if that happened right now, people would melt down. Even in 2017, we got McCaffrey, uhm, and Fernette in the top 10, right?


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[Assistant] And so like we still, yeah, for net went four and then McCaffrey went eight. And then I think the next one was a Nick Chubb in that class.


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[Assistant] But yeah, Davencook goes 41. My point being is that like.


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[Assistant] We have seen such a dramatic shift in where running backs are taken. That was 2018, that's right.


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[Assistant] That if you get Bijon Robinson, a player of his caliber, who's going to give you five good years and then you can franchise tag him, so you get six years out of being drafted in the first round.


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[Assistant] You're gonna have a dynamic explosive running game plus the passing game aspect of it. So to me, it's like it's kind of a I don't know. I think like he is


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[Assistant] In a different year, five years ago, he's going top ten easily.


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[Assistant] That's fine. I just, I wanted to point out that like Bijan, we did a great job, great job tag team in the running back class, really with their songs because...


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[Assistant] The depth is good, but like if I've got a chance to draft Bijon at a discount, I'm drafting him at a discount.


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[Assistant] Look at some teams starting at 11 because I don't think you can, I don't want to draft and running back to the top 10. I think I would.


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[Assistant] If, if I were like, I don't want to do one of the top five, but like I would consider in the top 10, but like Texans or Titans probably no.


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[Assistant] 11, Texans probably know because they just signed Devin Singletary. Jets have, uh, uh, Brice Hall. Pats, maybe Packers Everett Jones. Commanders. They have too many holes. Steelers drafted Najee. Lions would be real interesting at 18.


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[Assistant] Ravens are a run-heavy team. If you think Lamar is going to be in the fold, you know, you, you do have J.K. Dobbins and you have, is Gus Edwards gone now?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was saying like you could, I mean, if you're, if you, if you run that much, I guess I was still there. Justice Hill. Yeah. I was saying you run the, um, you run the ball that much that I don't mind like investing in it. Vikings. I don't know. Dalvin's going to be good, you know, like moving forward. He's expensive.


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[Assistant] Jaguars, Giants, Cowboys, Bills, you can make a case for a lot of these teams.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm going to tell you the Arcade Fire story. So Arcade Fire was here in Raleigh and, uh, me and a couple of buddies, me and my brother and like my pal Nathan and maybe a friend Carr, uh, like all went, it was like four of us who were going.


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[Assistant] And, uh, we, we went and had some drinks before at a bar in downtown Red Hat Airport Theater. So it's like, you know, easily walkable from downtown. So we go get some beers and we're walking in there and we stop, you know, go to the security stop.


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[Assistant] Get a drink. And there's, you know, like the main walkway, you know, between like, there's the


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[Assistant] There's two sections. There's a lawn, some seats, big walkway through the middle of it.


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[Assistant] And we're walking through the big walkway to go to our seats. And as we're walking, like we look up, it's like Wynn Butler and the entirety of Arcade Fighter is walking towards us surrounded by like some security and a bunch of cameramen. We're like, holy bleep.


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[Assistant] Dude! And we all stop at the top of this thing cause like, and you walk down the middle to get to the stage. Well, they're recording. We come to find out later.


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[Assistant] Uh, something for like a music vid- like some b-roll stuff for a music vid- like a- either a music video or like a touring-


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[Assistant] I can't, I mean like, okay, I mean not like from me to my bookshelf, but it's like not much further away. I'm like three feet from Wynn Butler. And we're just standing there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean like, and they're like, and he's like doing this thing where they get all hyped up and everything. And I'm like looking at Nate, I'm like, dude, I've got my phone out and.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, we're like last second in there. They were doing as a thing, the whole, the entire group, the entire crowd was there.


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[Assistant] It was like an insane moment and I captured it all by accident. I failed to capture it all by accident. But I love Arcade Fire. Anyway, my tight end, uhm, did not change my crap. What would I say my tight ends are?


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, I guess I screwed up and did play with the boys instead.


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[Assistant] Man, I got nothing all the time. I told you my wind baller story, that's it. We can move on.


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[Assistant] Uhm, sorry, I blacked out for a second. What position am I looking at again?


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[Assistant] When I was using full disclosure, like I saw traps have Kenny Loggins.


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[Assistant] Oh my god. They were, uh, Bob Dylan's backing band for a while and then they went out there and you know a bunch of their songs, but you don't know that you know them.


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[Assistant] That's a man. Um, Ophelia by the band is one. The Last Waltz is there is like their live album, which you've never seen is the greatest.


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[Assistant] Musical album of all time and musical performance of all time in my opinion.


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[Assistant] Don't you break my heart. And I think people will potentially have their hearts broken if they decide to break your heart. No, no, no, don't you do it. Don't you break my heart.


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[Assistant] I just think there's a chance of people being like, this is why receiver class is good.


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[Assistant] They're small. Oh, you could have gone with like, Oh, you know, it would have been good to is too short. I wish I was a little bit taller.


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[Assistant] There's like one, there's, like, if you take the top six wide receivers, I think there's one guy who's over 6'1", it's Quinn Johnson. Constant, I guess.


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[Assistant] Like Josh Downs, I would probably spend a late first round pick on. I think I have him going to the first round. I know he's probably considered a day two guy. The same flowers. I'm definitely spending a first round pick on Jackson's JSJSN. I'm probably spending a first round pick on but late first round picks. As you point out in your article, there's no Jamar chase.


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[Assistant] Garrett Wilson, there's no Justin Jefferson CD-LAM types.


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[Assistant] Right? There's no, I mean, there's none of these guys where you're like, that guy is the guy. So I think you just have to be a little cautious with this wide receiver class. And when I say don't do it, I mean, don't use a top


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[Assistant] Sorry, I have to pause, but I was blasting pretending by Eric Clapton, which is my song.


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[Assistant] If you've never watched this music video, Google Eric Clapton pretending, um,


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[Assistant] It is so incredible. It is like the most 80s thing of all time. Clapton's like, it like starts off with like, they're just, they're like in this like old abandoned warehouse. It's like got fires burning.


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[Assistant] Billy didn't give me my freaking- Billy, I want a screenshot of Eric Clapton in the pouring down rain shredding his electric guitar, which-


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[Assistant] Not possible. Look at this. Look at this. He's fire burning. There's smoke everywhere. It's like an old abandoned warehouse and he's somehow he's plugged into this electric guitar in the middle of the pouring down ranges. Absolutely shredding it. Do you know how dead you would be if you played electric guitar in the rain?


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[Assistant] I mean, it's just an unbelievable, like the music videos and it's just, it's like the pure, the purest of the eighties, Eric Clapton, along with, um, there's just a bunch of these, a bunch of songs. Anyway, the point being is these teams are pretending that they believe in these quarterbacks enough to draft them in the top 10. Well done. Thank you. And I think that


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[Assistant] Some of these guys are worth top 10 picks. Like Bryce Young is immensely talented. He has size concerns. That's just the reality of it. CJ Stroud seems safe, but I don't trust Ohio State quarterbacks. And maybe that's a meat problem. Don't care. Point to me. Yeah, point to me. In the NFL. There aren't any. There aren't any. Craig Krenzel.


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[Assistant] That's a great passer though, because like I can kind of circumvent the just, you know.


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[Assistant] Um, but yeaah, no, I mean, yes, Fields could be the first one, and I hope he is. I hope Justin Fields proves me wrong. But, uh, I don't know that I think that, like, I don't know that I want to be in it. There's something about him, and everyone's just like CJ Shroud to save his pet. Is he? He's very accurate.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's had a couple of decent runs, but yeah, I mean, like, there's just, I don't know. Um, we'll have us like you're making a projection. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Anthony Richardson, my God, you were making a projection and yes, both of those guys are going to be incredible. Like it wouldn't surprise me at all if we ended up in a situation where.


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[Assistant] C.J. Strahl was sort of like Mitchell Trubisky and, you know, you got Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes type of performances, not, not to that extreme level, but just that type from Levis and Richardson, just in the sense of like athleticism and all that. So, uh, but I think that these NFL teams,


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[Assistant] Especially in this, in, as you mentioned, traps with, uh, with David Tepper and with Jim mercy, pressing their GMs and pressing their front offices to, you know, go out and get a quarterback that


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[Assistant] You have people talking themselves into quarterbacks, maybe more than we've seen in recent years. Ergo, they are.


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[Assistant] I dig it. Uh, by the way, I should point out that, um, Captain Spock in the comments says, seeing Pink Floyd in the seventies is the best concert you could ever go to. I am a huge Pink Floyd fan. I saw Roger Waters recently. It's, uh, he's great. What's that?


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[Assistant] Mildly political messages and some disturbing images posted by him. It is pretty like I'm not. I was just there for the 10s. There's a little too much for me even. And I'm like, I'm pretty I'm not. I'm not bothered by like I just I can deal with whatever. This is like a little bit much at any rate. Pink Floyd animals. Holy crap. What a friggin album.


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[Assistant] Weird. Yes, animals 277 is the best. I would kill. I wouldn't alive in 77. I would kill to have seen them playing.


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[Assistant] Animals in 77, it is probably a top 10 album for me, actually easily a top 10 album for me. Like people think that they, it's weird, like, yeah, weird, like,


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[Assistant] There's a, uh, there's actually a video of me dancing, like bobbing my head to shake it off. That's like 10 years old. It's, I know one person who found it on the internet. I don't know how the hell he found it, but it's, uh.


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[Assistant] Maybe fine. Uhm, I went with sell sell by watching my panic.


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[Assistant] Right? I mean, like, you know, you're a Carter who, I mean, you're, you know, it's, um, you know, you're, you're, you're making it, you're, you're taking a pretty big leap of faith, right? If you take Carter too, even though like his, his talent is enough to put him at number one, but it's like,


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[Assistant] Because adversity is difficult, but like if you deal with that adversity and then your response is like gain weight and test poorly, like what happens if you know you're three years down the road and something bad happens to you off the field?


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[Assistant] That was great, yep. I lumped the offensive linemen together into one group so.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I was gonna have to get a Grateful Dad song in there.


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[Assistant] I mean, I can't wear a grateful hat. Look at Tom in the chat. He actually has shades of gray. Shady gray.


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[Assistant] I love this song. Touch of Grey. Touch of Grey is the name of the song by, uh, by the Grave of Death. But yes, I'm with you Dom on that, on that song. It's a delightful song. I went with Shake Down Street.


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[Assistant] I just wanted to put Shakedown Street in here, honestly. Where's the tie? And it's like, it does feel like a cornerback song there, right? Like you're like, I don't know. I like the name, like you're, you know, shake the, you know, you're on this, you're on this. Shakedown Street is like this long, like,


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[Assistant] You know, narrow sort of not an island style, but you're, you know, you're, you're one-on-one like walking like it's sort of like how you would imagine playing like press man coverage, right? And then you're shaking down the wide receiver.


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[Assistant] And so like just the fact that we had some good corners in this class, I felt like that worked, especially with sort of the way that these guys, um, play, especially witherspoon who's like smaller, but dude, that guy's physical and he flies around. Yeah, he's a good player.


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[Assistant] I was wondering if not cohesive is not the thing. It's more like, it's too cohesive.


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[Assistant] Right, it's all, it's too cohesive, like it's too like- It's too cohesive.


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[Assistant] Yeah, in that same vein, I went with, uh, god, what a banger this song is. The heat is on. Yes.


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[Assistant] I think that, uh, just the point is like, this is a class with a lot of pressure and the heat, the heat is on and these guys are going to get after the quarterback and you're going to see, I think, I mean, I mean, I don't think it's like your opinion trash was like consensus, the best group overall.


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[Assistant] If you're a team that is really believes in best player available and


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[Assistant] You're unsure about what you want to do in this draft.


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[Assistant] Potentially, you will potentially end up finding yourself defaulting to an edge rusher.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm trolling a little bit just to get the conversation started, but I mean, I just don't. How is that a comp?


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[Assistant] I mean, I just don't think he moves the needle enough for me. Like I don't think he makes those underneath throws. I don't think he's as accurate on those underneath throws as I would like him to be. And that ball's a little wobbly in the air when he is throwing that deep ball. It doesn't get me Josh Allen vibes, even though he's trying to give me those Josh Allen vibes. So it just, it feels like, it feels like he's trying to hoodwink us a little bit.


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[Assistant] Highlights and instant reactions. The largest final round comeback in four championship history. We're down to the final four.


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[Assistant] No, I think you're trending upwards too. I'm number two to Wilson in that sense. That's what I was looking for. Thank you, RJ.


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[Assistant] We'll have Levis going number two, not number one. Um, I think the pitchforks would come out if I put Levis at number one. And just before, to set the table really quick, this isn't what I think teams should do. This isn't even what I think is going to happen. This is what the betting market thinks is going to happen heading into draft week. I put this all together on Sunday night based


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[Assistant] That means that the people most likely to know things we don't, the ones that stand to cash in on this type of thing, know some things that we don't right now. Uhm, so.