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[Assistant] Exactly, that's exactly right. And that's probably why, you know, again, I can't sometimes rank these guys when I haven't seen them in a few years or whatever. But, uh, I thought he played really good football against some, again, like Tyler Huntley.


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[Assistant] Played some good teams, I mean, oh hey great, you know, oh you gotta come in against the Rams and throw dimes, you're down 16 to 7.


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[Assistant] Keep us in it. Oh, hey, here you are. Throws an interception late in the game. The guy tripped and fell. Probably could have been called pass interference. Played great that game. Steelers game. I mean, managed the first half. Second half started to make a few plays when they finally took the shackles off them. You know, they're too conservative sometimes. They hold back their quarterbacks in Seattle too often.


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[Assistant] Did some good things there. The Saints game was probably a little too careful, but, you know, when people say that too, cause I saw somebody, like, on social media, the Saints.


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[Assistant] You know, his best game was against Jacksonville. Jacksonville's defense was no slouch. They were not a slouch. Their defense was better than they were statistically ranked. Their offense sucked. So they had it. But there's a reason Josh Allen only scored six points against Jacksonville. And there's a reason Carson Wentz couldn't move the ball at the end of the year. Exactly right.


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[Assistant] You know, and, and, and here's my last piece of the puzzle.


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[Assistant] And I just don't give a shit about that stuff. That's stupid. He makes throws and plays that really change the game, or change the field position. And I, again, will put more value in that than the guy that throws for 79.5% for 3.2 yards per completion. Sorry, that doesn't do anything for me.


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[Assistant] The biggest thing is, like I talked about, the trust tree. You know, I mean, again, Drew Locke.


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[Assistant] As much as I go wow with some of the plays, I go wow that is stupid, almost every other one as well.


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[Assistant] Whether it's bad decision making, trying to fit a ball into a tight window down the field, or just the stupid turnover at times and not having a feel for the overall game. That's the biggest reason. That's where, and then, and then,


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[Assistant] People are not giving Geno Smith enough credit for his ability. They're not. His, his, Drew Lock, as much as I love his ability, is not gonna go into Seattle on the first day of practice and people are gonna be like, man.


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[Assistant] Drew Locke throws lasers around the field. They're gonna sit there and go, damn, both these guys got good arms. Maybe Drew's is a little stronger.


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[Assistant] You know, I would say Gino's more accurate and controls the ball better. And I would tell you that Gino moves in the pocket and has better presence in the pocket than Drew Lock. So that's where I'm going to go with


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[Assistant] You know, again, we gotta see how the year goes. I do think he has talent and potential to be a mainstay type of starter in the NFL. It's never gonna be top 15 in football, I get that. But I do think he can...


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[Assistant] You know, be that guy. Again, of course, we know a lot of things play into that. Not even sometimes your play. They're going to have to win some games. You know, if you bounce the ball, go his way. Can they protect them? How does the offense evolve?


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[Assistant] I think he's got a legit chance to, and for a team that I think is kind of looking to go, we don't need a superstar quarterback, we just want somebody to talk and lead us and do that. I do think he's got a little more


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[Assistant] I feel like they want that, and I feel like they want to play more like, you know, they did when they went to the Super Bowl two years in a row. Right. Where, you know, people forget. Russell Wilson was handing the ball off and being really conservative.


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[Assistant] No, I know. Hey listen, this is- I don't mind saying. No, it's getting to the nitpicking area here. This ain't easy, alright? I don't know why I do this to myself, alright? I don't know why I get stressed out. I'm happy you do. Yeah, thank you, thank you. And I just get crapped on everywhere. But here we go. Number 32.


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[Assistant] You know, definitely a rough year. Yeaah. There's no question. Didn't start rough. No, didn't start rough. You know, and let's start there. I mean, Sam Darnold, first off, you saw he can move and run. Better than I think people realize. What do you have? Six touchdowns, rushing touchdowns in the first three or four games there. Runs pretty well. Yep, runs pretty well.


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[Assistant] You know, again, pretty good feet in the pocket. Another guy, there I go, man, his ability to hop around and kind of move and do that type of stuff is really good. He doesn't have any different arm angles, so I'll say that. It's a negative. Every throw is pretty much the same with Sam Darnold. The motion's the same almost every throw.


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[Assistant] Another guy that I would go has a very quick release. It's the one thing I've always liked about Sam Brown. He can get it out of his hands fast. And as I've always said, he is very good intermediate and short ball thrower. Now.


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[Assistant] You know, he's got a lot of talent to go, he should be higher than this. I would say, and listen, there's still people in football that sit there and go, I think Sam Donald can be something in the NFL. And he was 19 last year, 23 the year before. Yes, I've had it. I've had it with one thing, and this is where he is. One, he doesn't see the field all that well.


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[Assistant] He doesn't. That was the one thing, even in the 3-0 winning stretch early in the year, when I went back and watched, I went, you know, hey, they won.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, damn, there's DJ Moore down the sideline. He's gone. He sees it and throws it. He sees it and throws it, but misses it. You know, there's Robbie Anderson on the 20 yard out route. Fuck, he's wide open. It's third and four and he air mails it over his head or throws it behind him a little bit.


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[Assistant] It's just too much of that to where, you know, again, there's, there's certain talents and things that I really like.


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[Assistant] You know, some of the, yes, the power, the explosive throws, as we've talked about, I know I value it more, but the things that can really change the game and field position of that. Man, is there a lot of instances as you go through the whole season and watch his throw where he missed opportunities for them to do that.


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[Assistant] The talent, their team's got talent. You know, they're not, I understand their O-line's not great. The O-line struggled a lot last year. Yeah, it struggled. It did. There's no question. Then McCaffrey got hurt. I got that. You know, and he did a, he does a good job of moving the pocket like we said. But also here's the other thing I would say.


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[Assistant] He also loses sight of the pocket at times. So as much as he moves around in the pocket and does a good job, at times I found myself and I wrote in my notes a few times of just going,


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[Assistant] And to me that's another aspect of why I go damn he's talent and there's things to say that he should be around the top 20, but there's some trust tree things there again where I'd go back to to go, it just, I don't trust him to...


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[Assistant] Make the right decision, or see the field the right way at times.


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[Assistant] There's no doubt about that. So listen, I did take that into account too, but some of these things that I'm explaining.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I think the question's still... Still valid? It's still valid. I do. I do. You know, again, it's...


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[Assistant] Some of it's trickle down effect. Like the jets in that situation made bad habits and it causes some issues too. That's where people don't realize. They think you're just gonna go to a new place and buying slate and you'll be better. No, it can also...


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[Assistant] Give you less confidence because things didn't go well. Right. You know, you might not have been taught certain plays the right way. Who knows? You know, you feel the pressure of the situation. I'm like, I gotta prove that's my second team that I gotta prove that I, I was the third pick of the draft that just did it up and all that.


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[Assistant] You know, so, uhm, no, I don't know if last year disproved that yet. I don't. I don't. Again, I think there's things here, again, to say he could be a starting quarterback in the NFL. There's a lot there. But, as I broke down a little,


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[Assistant] Physical talent, decision making, leadership.


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[Assistant] Pocket presents are kind of my four things I'm really into, right? Physical talent, he's got some of that, for sure. Enough. Yeah, enough. Funny, enough, right. You know, decision making? Big question mark. Big!


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[Assistant] Leadership, what he brings to the team, there's not much.


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[Assistant] You know, that's another thing where I'd go, like Tyler Huntley, Gardner Minshew, those guys bring somebody to the offense with their leadership, their pizzazz, the way they are, their edge. There's none of that with Sam Darnley. I've thrown three touchdowns and the face is the same. I've thrown an interception, the face is the same. And, you know, there's good to a degree with that, but


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[Assistant] On a number of levels. I mean, a number of levels. They really did. They've been involved in the Baker Mayfield thing. Yep. Deshaun Watson. You know, Deshaun Watson, they were, I mean, they were willing to crawl to Houston to talk to him and do it.


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[Assistant] Exactly right, exactly right. So I think that says a little bit. Alright, I do. You know, and yeaah, he's gonna have to go, he's gonna have to go a little ways here to do, you know, disprove his own coaching staff. Because again, what I would say,


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[Assistant] So he's gonna go on the first practice field the first day, and his physical ability's gonna pop more than Sam Darnold. And that's where it'll be interesting for Sam Darnold here. If they slip up, he doesn't play good, I think he'll have a short lease this year.


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[Assistant] Oh man, darn it. There's no rush now. Right. There's no rush. There's kind of no pressure on the situation and he's gonna be chippy and...


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[Assistant] Ready to go and pissed off because he was in the third round anyways. Right. So I think I think a lot of play and let me just say this thing too because Darnold fits the scheme of how they play with Ben McAdoo. I think he's, you know, Hey, it's a West coast offense. Ben McAdoo became the head coach of the Giants because he was coaching Aaron Rodgers and Rodgers were throwing piss missiles all over the field.


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[Assistant] Right? But that's also where, hey, Darnold fits that, but damn, so does Matt Corral. Matt Corral is made to play in that type of offense. I mean, that's that to me, and that's where it'll be interesting.


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[Assistant] Even better. Here we go. Open up the floodgates. Unleash, unleash the Kraken. Alright, and here we go. It's Trey Lance at number 31. Alrighty, here we go.


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[Assistant] You know, Trey Lance, I'm, I'm, you know, flat out, first thing I'll say is probably one of the hardest guys to really place on the whole list. He really is. I see, listen, I see the talent, the potential, all of that. There's no doubt.


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[Assistant] You know, if you were really into that and you believed you could groom him and fix him and do some of that, I can get why you pick him at number three. The arm is ridiculously strong and he's a good athlete.


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[Assistant] And he does seem like, you know, again, he's a good kid, and from everything I've heard from anybody, he is smart. But I haven't seen the smarts on the field yet, I would say. Alright?


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[Assistant] There's some things there. So we talk about the, the, the talent and yeaah, all that, and yes, there is that. There's no doubt. Shanahan's gonna be able to do some special things. But I still got too many questions too. That's why I couldn't place them higher, where there's gonna be a few guys in front of him that are, they're not as talented as him that we'll get to in the next podcast.


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[Assistant] I think the accuracy is still the biggest question. Just the pure ability to be a thrower and a passer. You know, again, every game was...


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[Assistant] I mean, it really was. It was, oh, he's 6 for 15 here. We're early in the fourth quarter. He's, he's 6 for 19 and it's early fourth quarter. And I feel like Shanahan had to call plays to basically go, let's get his completion percentage up. So maybe we can end the game at 50%.


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[Assistant] I mean, I really felt like as I was watching some of the games, that was, that was part of it. So that, yes, you know, and then the ability, as we talked about many times in the preseason last year, the ability to throw the appropriate ball. Remember we went through that period last year of like,


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[Assistant] You know, people were like, man, so many drops in the preseason. It's like drops. It's, he's throwing to a receiver from you to me and he threw it as hard as he can. Heavy fastball, nose down, heavy fastball. No spin. Right. We've hit on that. And that's, it jumps out when you watch on film. Not only that, I think the thing that's concerning is it's, yeah, around 50%. Damn.


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[Assistant] Almost 50% of the completions are like, whoa, that guy barely caught it. Or whoa, he had to turn around and make some crazy catch. Not easy. It's nothing as easy. And then I think what added on to it, you see very few real quarterback plays go through the pocket, do all that, read it, do all that.


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[Assistant] A lot of his big plays and his stats were what I would call Shanahan specials. Where I'd go, listen, it's great throw down field and all that.


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[Assistant] I gotta see stuff like that in plays like that within the normal rhythm of the offense and other things too. You know, too many of the big successful plays were just Shanahan serving it up on a platter.


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[Assistant] Right now, he's not. No, he's not the best quarterback on the roster.


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[Assistant] I know, Jimmy Garoppolo's on that roster. Jeremy Garoppolo's gonna be, he's on this list, of course. He's above this, for sure. Yeah. How do they deal with that? It's gonna be tough, you know. Now, but, this is Shanahan, who's,


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[Assistant] Probably the most creative offensive coach in football. He started two games last year.


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[Assistant] You know, even where he is here, and yes, Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna be higher than this.


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[Assistant] You drafted him at number 3. His potential is great. There's the word. Shanahan can hide the deficiencies. Shanahan will, you know, highlight


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[Assistant] The good things he does, and do that, and that'll help the growing curve here a little bit. Yes. I think that's the thing I look at, and then, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.


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[Assistant] So I gotta play them, you gotta start them, you gotta do it. You gotta do it. Yes. I think you're, you're saying exactly right. And I think yes to your point, my answer is yes. That they, they are, the 49ers are a Super Bowl team, period. They were last year, we know that.


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[Assistant] You know, even with saying all this, you know, you know, they, they basically had to do some of this stuff with Jimmy Garoppolo too. So it's not like it's gonna be like, oh my gosh, we gotta figure out how to kind of work around our quarterback. No shit. Well, they've been doing that with Jimmy Garoppolo. So I, that's where I have tremendous


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[Assistant] I know. I think so. Until he, you know, grows into like what you're talking about. But I think that would be to me the goal.


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[Assistant] Let's get him out there, let's get him playing, let's get progress, and if we can get to like, you're talking about mid-November, late-November, where we start to go, uh-oh, he's starting to read the field and make a few special throws.


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[Assistant] Watch out for the 49ers. And that's again another part to bring into this conversation of why it's so important that they keep Debo Samuel. Because he's gonna make life a lot easier on train lands. Exactly right.


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[Assistant] It's single digits to me. I mean it's, it's, it's, if Tray Lance falls off a cliff and we never see him again, or like, something crazy happens. It's, it's not a competition.


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[Assistant] I think so. I think Shanahan told everybody at the owner's meeting that we think Trey's ready to go.


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[Assistant] So there you go. He said that. So there you go. They tried to trade Jimmy Garoppolo, so we know where they are.


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[Assistant] Man, that's a nice way to start. At Chicago? I don't know. I don't see it with Chicago. Iber Fluse, you know, got respect for him. I know he's a good defense of mine, certainly. And then Seattle? And then Seattle? Shit. I mean, it's, you know, that's not a bad start for to get started with here. Seattle kind of in a retool, rebuild mode.


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[Assistant] And then the, you know, and then you go back to the, what I call the Shanahan homecoming game.


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[Assistant] The Shanahan's go back to Mile High Stadium, the Broncos there, the place where Kyle's dad, you know, put the Broncos on the map and all that. And hey, shit, the, the Broncos, they hired Vance Joseph over Kyle Shanahan. They could have had him as their head coach. So there's, there's some, uh, you know, interesting little


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[Assistant] No, no it doesn't. You know, again, the one thing I probably didn't talk about enough here with Trey Lance too is, hey, running is going to be a thing here. It's going to be another element of the offense that was not there with Jimmy G that you're going to have with Trey Lance. So, you know, that's another way of Shanahan being able to manage this whole thing here.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna take the over. I'd go over. I'm gonna take the over. This is one of the things I've said many a times. I think I've said it here. Listen, I talk a lot. I don't know where the hell I say everything sometimes. You know, they're good. Like, we both see.


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[Assistant] That's where I think it's a cool thing about this year. It was one of my little themes of the year. AFC, star power, quarterbacks, blah blah blah. NFC, full complete teams, 49ers, Bucks, Rams, like real complete teams. It's not always just all about the quarterback and everything.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it doesn't change my opinion and whether it's Jimmy G or Lance or anything, it really doesn't and I am going over. Yeah, I mean again, I wouldn't be shocked if we were sitting here late January going the 49ers in the NFC Championship game again. Right. Yeah, I mean, and as Trey Lance, a quarterback, I would not


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[Assistant] What we talked about earlier, maybe like a, a drew lock or something.


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[Assistant] Hey, yes, next year he could be significantly up. He's a hard guy for me to gauge growth and where he's at quite yet. It's very raw. He's got mechanical flaws throwing the football, let alone some of the things we've talked about. And that's where I'd like to know or see if it gets fixed or, you know.


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[Assistant] Maybe this is, maybe he's one where after like preseason game two or three,


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[Assistant] Pete gives me like a reap, uh, a reprieve, right? Reprieve. Reprieve, right? Mulligan. I'm Mulligan.


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[Assistant] Alright, you saw two games, like now where do you think you want to put them? Like, he might be one where I'd go, oh shit, it looks good. He's fixed his motion and...


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[Assistant] Man, Shanahan got him coached up. Okay, maybe he should have been 23 or whatever. I mean, uh, I, I'm, I'm going to be very intrigued with Trey Lance, of course, because of my friend Kyle Shanahan, but, uh, just a talent. And of course the, like you said, the pressure of the situation too has just made it, uh, uh, um,


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[Assistant] You know, a spotlight thing in the NFL. Jimmy G, they traded three first round picks to get to pick number three to get this guy, you know, and all of that. And then like you said, a Super Bowl team that you think is going to be 11 and a half, you'd go over and I hear you there. I don't think that's crazy. So, uh, that's why it'll be, it'll be a fun season to watch in San Francisco with Trey Lance.


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[Assistant] Yes, thank you. Oh, I literally have people from other media markets texting me.


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[Assistant] Going, thanks for your list, man. Like, I really, really appreciate your hard work. And for this time of the year, we don't have a lot of tough stuff to talk about. It's great content. It's me. Right. It's me. So I do appreciate that when people reach out and kind of say that. Yep.


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[Assistant] Didn't do shit there either. That offense wasn't good. They needed Churbisky's ability to run and scramble to kind of get where they were going to get. Yes, were there some games where it might have been a little more efficient at quarterback with Teddy Bridgewater? Sure.


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[Assistant] But I also think there have been a lot of games where he'd go, yeah, it was more efficient, but he never made a play and we lost. We needed the player to, to win the game. And Trubisky ran down the sideline for a 40 yard gain or a 50 yard bomb down the middle that put us over the top. So I would say, uh, no to that. That was a good question by Nathan though.


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[Assistant] I understand your thought there, Charlie Jamison. I do. I think, you know, there's some truth to that. First off, the Moxian leadership thing, that is real. And I do, I do put some value into that. I've probably put a little more value in that in the last two, three years in my list than I did originally.


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[Assistant] Like I said with Gardner-Minshew, he has a real effect on the team. You see it when you turn on the game. They love him. Yeaah. I mean, he gets hit, they're worried about him. He makes a play, they want to go celebrate with him. He goes to the sideline, they all f***ing want to hang with him and tell him how awesome the play was. And you're a fool for acting like that out there. So there is that effect.


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[Assistant] And I do think there's a little bit more of an aggressive playmaking thing with Minshew. Sure. But golf...


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[Assistant] Goff still is big, Goff's arm's a little better than everybody gives a credit for, and


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[Assistant] No, he still played some football and enough football that to me, yes, it's still a little bit above Gardner-Minshew at this point. This is a tight, yes, it's going to come up at some point. This, hey, this 38 to 28, I mean, it's tight, man. This is tight.


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[Assistant] I love that Joe Bucks fan. What up my man? I'm glad he's listening to the pod. Yes. Also last week though, that they then also did say Kyle Trask was going to compete for the backup job. Right. And then I also want to say to at Joe Bucks fan at the combine, Bruce Arian thought that Kyle Trask will be start, be maybe the starting quarterback for the year.


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[Assistant] Right, so, Blaine Gabbard, I know the talent in that. It is real. I get it. You know, I guess what I would just say is it just...


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[Assistant] I haven't been able to really see him play in a real situation in a long time. So that's hard for me to just say, okay, I'm going to throw him out here on the list. I understand, you know, what everybody's saying there. And I know he has real talent, but maybe, you know, that's a guy, again, here it's where it's like,


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[Assistant] You know, he was on my final 48 or whatever, but it's just like, man, I haven't seen it.


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[Assistant] You're wrong, Dolphin1993. Alright, he's on this list. He is. I'm not a jerk. I don't try to be biased. I am, I really don't. I work hard on not being biased and evaluating it for what it is. Alright, he's in the top 40. He's in the top 30.


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[Assistant] Is he in the top 20? No. Okay. But he'll, he's coming up for sure. I might get him Wednesday then. Yeah, you might, you might. He'll be coming up here in one of the next few, uh, episodes. Next couple shows. Yeah, we'll get into two and I don't want to, you know, use any of my best stuff here on him. Uh, there's, there's, we'll, we'll have a good conversation when that time comes though for sure.


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[Assistant] Yes, thank you. Thank you. I do care. I really do. Uhm, alright everybody. That's it. There it is.


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[Assistant] It's in the books, alright? Everybody, we'll be back Monday. Ahmed will be back here. Top 40 countdown will continue. You'll see me talking about some of this stuff on Pro Football Talk with Florio too, so if you wanna, you know.


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[Assistant] I love it. So please send it, even if they're a little negative. I don't care. You know, I like it because...


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[Assistant] It triggers things in my brain to then explain the point better to why I got the guy there. I really do. You're not disrespecting me. I like the challenge of it and I'm already well thought out. My biggest thing is can I get all my thoughts out of my stupid mouth in time to really explain it the right way?


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[Assistant] Like Veatch Magnus Opus. That's a nice wine, right? Nice red wine. Is that what that is? I think it is.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's right. Welcome to the masterpiece. I am Chris Sims and that is Ahmed Farid and this is Magnus Opus Unbuttoned. What's up? How you doing?


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[Assistant] But like, I-I-I remember... It's kind of a wine. Opus wine. Right, opus wine. Right, I guess, yes. It's-it's...


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[Assistant] But I can remember like my parents or my dad talking about it like even when I was younger. That's where I feel like I first heard it. I don't drink wine. I can't do it. Can't do it, Captain. Why? It sits in my stomach and I don't feel that great with it. It just sloshes in there. Never been a wine guy. Beer? You're not a beer guy then, are you? Not really. The same kind of thing. I just feel like it sits there.


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[Assistant] I don't think I've ever really been drunk or tipsy off a wine ever in my life.


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[Assistant] Bourbon? No, either, no. Well, maybe in college, when you're idiot college and they just put a bunch of liquors in a drink and you're like, I don't know, why do I not feel good the next day? Well, you drink seven different linkers in one drink. So maybe, but not- And a spiked cider. Yea, right, right. No, but no bourbon. Have you, have you bourbon? Bourbon's about all I do. That's all you do.


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[Assistant] Cause I'm the same way, I don't like the sloshy. Yea, you don't like the sloshy either. Right, I'm pretty much vodka or tequila if I'm getting tipsy. Vodka. What was it on draft night?


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[Assistant] New strain out there. Yeah, right, right. So wait, so first off, like, I don't know if anybody heard, but you're kind of a big deal around here, okay? I've been traveling a lot. I mean, holy crap, quadruple header here today. I'm in for Reed.


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[Assistant] I really am, I do a 7am show, as you know, so when I walk in in the morning, I'm a little like, oh, I don't want to talk to anybody at first, and I'm thinking about the show, I'm waking up, and I'm like, I can understand that. I've never seen you in a bad mood. And even today, here, I was expecting you to be tired, to be like, what the f***, this podcast, I gotta do this shit after this weekend. You're kind of hoping for it because


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[Assistant] Well, it's fun that I could have been like, look at this, I've never seen this guy like this before. Alright, suits though, I want to hit that up. I love the derby suit. Thank you. It was like a brown suit. Yeah, right. And that was a good one. It was like, was it brownish? I think it was brownish.


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[Assistant] Cool. That's cool. It's good that you got a little camaraderie there with Nicky Swish. Alright, so wait, I got a question for you here, because Pete set this up, alright, for your big weekend. What sitcom did Swisher make a guest appearance on in 2010 when he played for the Yankees?


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[Assistant] 2010, damn, I'm not sure if I know this either. I feel like I remember him on a show and I just can't remember what it would be. 2010, I mean, Seinfeld's gone. His wife's like an actor. Is she?


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[Assistant] There you go. Wow, good for you. Did you know that or did you just pull out one of CBS's top shows over the last decade or so?


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[Assistant] That's why I love it. It's, listen, this is part of the reason I read Twitter at times, or even read comments under Florio's, uh, like articles. I sit there, and trust me, a lot of them, I go, that's stupid, that's stupid, that's stupid. But I will see a few that will strike up one thought in my brain and go, hmm.


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[Assistant] Wait, I never thought of that. And that's what I do like about that. So yea, you're right about that.


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[Assistant] Well I think really, I mean, Jimmy G, I always thought, and have said this from the start, that I think the surgery, him opting to do that on his own, basically without the team getting involved in this, kind of caught them by surprise, I think was one him going like, wait, now I'm not


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[Assistant] Team doctors, 49ers, I don't totally trust you and that organization right now. I'm gonna do what I gotta do. And I understand that thought, even if we know they're very trustworthy. Hey, you've been burned by them a little bit. But I do think it takes power back into...


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[Assistant] You know, his camp a little bit here. Because it's like, oh, well I'm not healthy yet. Or uh, I need a little more rehab. He's gonna be able to play that.


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[Assistant] How he feels through that and when they can trade them and what team and all that and I think playoff that to a degree. 49ers in a weird situation here.


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[Assistant] They really are. I don't know where this goes. I don't think there's gonna be, when all's said and done, a huge market for Jimmy G right now. I mean, as we've discussed here, all teams are basically got their seats filled at quarterback, except for the Panthers and the Seahawks. And then there's, to me, like two other teams out there that are like,


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[Assistant] Ooh, maybes, right? Where I'll go to Houston, Texans, Davis Mills, Jimmy Garoppolo became available, maybe. I could see them going, eh, okay, we'll do that.


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[Assistant] Let's see if he can help our team and maybe he can be the future or something there. Even the New Orleans Saints. I think they're a team that's ready if they can get Jimmy Garoppolo for nothing.


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[Assistant] I do think he fits that Sean Payton style of offense they're running down there. And I think he's more of an intermediate, accurate, better ball thrower than Jameis Winston is. So that could be like two spots, but I think when you look at it, that's, that's, that's all there is to it.


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[Assistant] And coming off the shoulder surgery like we talked about, plus the 25 million dollar contract that goes along with him if you trade him. Like to me, there's just, there's no chance. There's no chance.


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[Assistant] I would rather cut the cord and just start a new era than have to deal with all these what ifs and oh he's on our roster, let me figure out Devo's contract and all these other things. To me it causes more trouble than it's worth. But you were saying that last year.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, so I wanted to hit a few things on, cause you, you know, you said- I gave you a couple there. Well you gave me a couple, and you even said some at the end of the last one that I want to hit off of. Oh good, you gave me three. You gave me three. Well just real quick, cause you said like, yeaah, last year, I was one that was going, just start the Trail of the Alliance era, and like get going, start it.


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[Assistant] But if you remember, they played the Chargers, I think, in preseason game two or three, and when that got done, I went, mmm, no, we can't do it.


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[Assistant] It's, it's not quite there yet. It's too raw. And I think that was the moment where Shanahan and the 49ers realized, okay, we give up. Jimmy's the starter. He's not quite ready yet. Don't look too deep into it that he couldn't beat out Jimmy G last year. That doesn't mean anything.


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[Assistant] Right? Again, this is a guy that we know was drafted a lot because of high-end traits and potential, and we know it was a little raw, and he wasn't just gonna be ready to go day one in the NFL, right? That's why some people said it was like Josh Allen, which I understand that comparison there. There was development that needed to take place. So,


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[Assistant] That's the big thing. The thing that's different here with this is...


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[Assistant] Just, whether, you know, people around the 49ers organization in training camp last year, or people around the Chargers 49ers practices during training camp last year, too many people got to see Trey Lance to go, uh, it wasn't that good in practice. And, uh, there was too many things coming out of those to go,


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[Assistant] It's really raw, he's really far away, the throws are off target, the decisions are everywhere, and all that. So that, I think...


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[Assistant] I would say this. Shanahan said a few weeks ago that they w- they think Trey Lance is gonna start. He's ready. Alright, he's ready. He is. I know they're gonna play this dance if Jimmy G's there or not. Just go with it. You saw enough from him.


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[Assistant] And he's got some talents that can open up the field and make their offense every bit as dangerous. Now is he going to be as consistent throwing the ball machine down the middle of the field? No, probably not.


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[Assistant] I just think the Jimmy G situation brings more pressure on Trey Lance, it brings more pressure on Shanahan, and uhm, that's where I just don't understand the...


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[Assistant] The hanging on the Jimmy G so long into the process here.


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[Assistant] Well I think that's probably why, I mean, the thought has occurred to me too of like, well maybe he kinda knows he might not be ready. Right. Or that they need, they're a good team like you talked about in the Super Bowl window. Right.


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[Assistant] Where they go, damn, we still need a good backup quarterback. We need to have somebody like that. I don't want to sacrifice our team on, oh, our young Trey Lance went down and hurt his knee just like I saw him doing his first start last year, right? And then you go, oh crap, now we got, you know,


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[Assistant] Damn, I mean, he is a great backup option even though he's $25 million, but again, you traded three first round picks for this guy. The pressure's on Trey Lance, the pressure's on Shanahan to make it work, and it's on it even more because of what our guy said here too. With Mac Jones' success and the one he's compared to throughout this process, you know, that, that, that adds to it as well.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say none. I'm gonna go with none, and that at some point before training camp or around that time, they either release them or find...


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[Assistant] Some what, some way to trade him where they're gonna still have to pay a big portion of the contract or something, but I don't expect them to be there. I just, I can't imagine that happening. I can't. It's...


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[Assistant] Three first round picks to get a quarterback at pick number three.


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[Assistant] And, you know, basically you've pushed out the guy who took you to two NFC championship games in a Super Bowl. Right. Like, you gotta make the move and go and start the Tray Lance era.


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[Assistant] Well, maybe. I don't know if I quite, like, you know, what did he piss the owner off with so much? Is it where I would push back there? Just a little. He feels disrespected in that one. I guess, right. And so then he let things out and the owner got pissed off. I get that. Like, listen, this is an interesting conversation. I talked about this with Lori a little today.


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[Assistant] He's tough, he's competed, he put them back on the map in Cleveland, they did go to the playoffs, they won a playoff game in Pittsburgh, they almost won another one in Kansas City, and very close to winning that, and then he played extremely hurt all year long, and they misled him.


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[Assistant] That's where they did him dirty. They told him and his agent at the end of the year he was the guy for 2022. Then a few weeks later it was, well, you're the guy if we don't get a Wilson or a Rogers or a Watson. And then it became, hey, we're going down to really flirt with Watson now.


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[Assistant] And that was where it was like, oh wait, it's like a legitimate pursue him now. And, you know, they, they,


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[Assistant] Do that so late in the process where at first off, I don't understand how they didn't think that was going to piss Baker Mayfield off.


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[Assistant] But in the pro- part of the process too of where limited seats are available and by the time it's all shake- shakes out and everything like that, Baker Mayfield doesn't get a chance to go anywhere, do anything. Right. Or, you know, help his own career out and they've held him hostage and continue to hold him hostage here for no reason at all.


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[Assistant] Other than, I don't know, thinking they're gonna get some crazy value from them and I don't think that's gonna happen.


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[Assistant] The contract is unprecedented and you did it with a guy that's got 22 pending civil lawsuits. What are they more mad about?


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[Assistant] Right? Yeah, money over morals, Pete just said in my ear, and he's exactly right. So I don't think that's the reason at all. I do think they're pissed off at Jimmy Haslam. I think that Browns did a horrible job of mapping this situation out, and obviously didn't have really a plan here.


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[Assistant] Baker Mayfield, yeaah. I mean, again, Carolina, sure. Seattle, maybe. Seattle and Pete Carroll aren't going to trade one thing for Baker Mayfield. They're not. So, okay, it's going to have to come to that. And then, you know, I think you get the same conversation. Maybe Houston, which I don't think so, because they could have made him part of the trade deal with Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Maybe the Saints, but I think that's about where you're stuck with right now. And from that standpoint, they put Baker Mayfield in a really bad spot. And the other thing I'll say to that is that's where Baker Mayfield playing hurt, hurt him.


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[Assistant] That's the other issue. That's the other issue where you go with the quarterback that's in year four of the rookie contract or last year of the contract. You, you, you almost have to think twice about playing hurt because everybody holds it against you. Nobody talks about it. You're right. And you just go, well, he didn't play that good last year. He was playing with one shoulder. He was gutting it out.


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, I know, it sucks, and we all want to go, well, he's playing, he should play good. But, you know, the reality is, he's, he was trying to be a competitor and do all the things as fans that we love. Like, oh, he loves the sport, he loves his team, we'll do anything for him. And then, after the, after math, we go,


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[Assistant] Guy wasn't even any good last year. Get him the fuck out of town!


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[Assistant] I wanna root for Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes and that crew. I don't know what it is or why. I've never even met Dan Campbell, but I'm, I'm, I don't know what it is. I'm rooting for him.


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[Assistant] He's hanging in there. He is. He is. Good thing he got down there in Tampa in that warm weather and extended a life. I used to see him at practice every now and then. He used to come by practice. Is he a good dude? Great dude. Awesome dude. Couldn't be, couldn't be any better.


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[Assistant] Yeah, those bodies and, and, and he's one of those that might be like 95 and you're still going, he's still going strong.


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[Assistant] I like an old man with a cool cane. When I see him, I'm like, that guy's cool over there. That and like the old man hats. Yes. Right? I could definitely see myself hitting a point in my life going, I'm sporting this every day.


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[Assistant] That were like all woodcrafted and carved. They looked aw- I love those as a kid. I, I do. There's something to it. It's like when I walk with the umbrella sometimes. I just go, man, I feel cool. I don't know why, but I'm walking with my umbrella on the side and tapping the ground with it and it just feels cool. I'mma be a cane guy now.


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[Assistant] You look at and go, well, they're not really good. They're just okay. They start to look good because they, you just go, well, everything's easy for them. We're always worried about the two elite talents running around. So they always get the benefit of wide open in the middle of the field and oh, you know, a mismatch or just a coverage malfunction that benefits them.


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[Assistant] This NFL right now, the way the rules are, you can really affect the football game and open up a lot of the field for guys that might not be as great. There's certainly conversation to the other side of that. What I would say to the other side of it is not all


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[Assistant] And not all offenses can deliver with the, we're gonna go with the quantity approach over the high end quality approach. And that to me is where, that's why you've seen the Patriots for the most part not spend huge money on receivers.


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[Assistant] We know how to get everybody open. You know, again, with Brady, even though I've told you advanced stats before, he's thrown to the, even though everyone goes well, he's never had a great receiver, he's had the most separation as far as the receiver being open out of any quarterback ever.


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[Assistant] And I'm, this is not against Brady. This is more just because New England said, we know how to call the right plays and teach you how to run the right routes against, and we have all the answers there, so we don't need to go.


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[Assistant] But you put him in a situation now where I go, ah, the offense is just okay. They're just an okay pass protection offensive line. I'm gonna go, no, there's like five other quarterbacks I'd rather have than him because they're gonna be able to make things happen and it doesn't have to be perfect. Like, you know, Josh Allen-ish, Mahomes-ish. So that's, that's where that is. But I think ultimately, as we're talking again, again, it's a league whole conversation here. I would rather have the two guys.


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[Assistant] Minnesota offense is very simple, but it kind of looks good every year because they got two guys and we go, oh, how do you defend those two guys? And just like we saw Cincinnati last year, good offense. You're not wowed by it, but because there's two guys at receiver and Higgins and Chase, and I know there's a third one too, it makes everything else better. Sorry for the long answer.


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[Assistant] I know. This is where it's gonna be an interesting experience with them. They're gonna have one elite guy.


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[Assistant] The rest of the group, I would say, is a little better than quantity here. We're not, this isn't quantity, guys. Juju Smithshuster is not quantity. He's, you know...


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[Assistant] Low end, high quality, if that makes sense. Haven't seen it in a little bit. Yeaah, it's been two years. Now, you know, listen, it's hard to see anything in Pittsburgh with the one yard throwing passing game, uh, but he's been hurt too. But yeaah, same thing, like McColl-Hardman. Yeaah, not superstar.


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[Assistant] But this isn't just some quantity guy either. So there's a little bit of a different mix here. Same with MVS. Where it's again, it's not superstar.


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[Assistant] But, every guy we just mentioned there has a quality about them that's kind of elite to where you go, okay yea they're not superstars but they're really damn good. So that's where I think their offense with Kelsey and those guys, it's not gonna change a whole lot.


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[Assistant] But they might have to go a little bit more offense, spread the ball around judiciously than just draw it up for Tyreek and Kelsey all the time.


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[Assistant] Exactly. Less mobile, less aggressive Big Ben. It actually is a really good question by Scanlon and I think it actually does, it changes a lot. And you know I'm the biggest Big Ben fan. I'm one of the leaders of Big Ben's borderline top 10 greatest quarterbacks ever. And I know I'm probably in the minority with that conversation.


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[Assistant] He has not helped their team out a whole lot the last few years. Trubisky, Pickett, first thing is, yea, their athleticism, you know, to get out of the pocket, do those type of things. That's going to give them a handful of plays that weren't available to them the last few years because of Big Ben. He couldn't do that.


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[Assistant] And in fact, when the pocket got bad, it was just like, Oh no, what is going to happen? It was almost always a disaster. So now you're going to go.


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[Assistant] Whoa, we actually got a good play out of that. He scrambled for 10. He got out of the pocket and threw a 20-yard completion. Like, these are plays last year where it was like, oh, just throw it away in the dirt or take the sack or whatever. So that's where I think it's also a big thing. And then, with Big Ben 2.


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[Assistant] And this happens to all other quarterbacks. They don't want to stand in there and take hits and throw the ball down the field. And how many times last season did we talk about like,


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[Assistant] You know, hey, there's people down off field, but it's, get it out quick. Throw a quick here. Throw a quick here. Throw a quick here. So I think the aggressive mindset from those guys, plus, yea, being young, hanging in the pocket, you don't care about getting hit as much and all that, I think that's all gonna benefit their offense. Let alone, I think the offensive coordinator, Matt Canada's,


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[Assistant] Bread and butter is quarterback movement stuff. So now he's gonna be able to be in his comfort zone


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[Assistant] You know, again, has a good training camp and plays good in the preseason. I don't know, I have a hard time thinking they're gonna stave that off, where it's just gonna be like, well, let's go with it. I mean, we know Trubisky's not the future, so let's go with it. Now, if it's like Trey Lance or something like that, where it's like, whoa, he needs time, okay, you got Trubisky, but I expect it to be Pickett, really, when all's said and done.


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[Assistant] Exactly, right. I mean, when we were in high school. Right? I mean...


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[Assistant] The MVP of basketball? That was not even a discussion. It was just like, well I guess it's boring to say him every year, so let's find somebody new.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's really what, oh, we'll go with Karl Malone, even though we know he's not the MVP. It's just, that's what happened.


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[Assistant] This is, I don't think there's reason for concern here. We've had years where they've had no coordinators, I think, listed on their coaching staff. I think there's been years like that. Like when Brian Flores was the D coordinator his last year there, he was not the defensive coordinator. I think he was just like head defensive assistant, he got to call the plays, but there was nobody there.


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[Assistant] You know, of course you've had no GM, and I do believe there was years of no OC. I could be wrong there.


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[Assistant] But. What would be the strategy for that? The strategy is he's just not going to annoy anybody out of nowhere, like right away, and then be like...


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[Assistant] You know, last year I think was one of their bigger staffs altogether, but when I was working there, and really all throughout the Belichick era,


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[Assistant] The Patriots have the smallest staff in football, almost every year.


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[Assistant] No doubt about it. There's just not gonna be too many assistants at every position and too many people in the coaching room and all that. I don't know if he wants to keep it a close-knit group or if he just wants limited voices to his players or whatever, but that's the way it's kind of always been there in New England. They've definitely been like,


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[Assistant] And that's where I think the Patriots are smart and that's also I think they cut costs a little bit. They basically do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think so. No. And again, they're a place where I've said before, they have no problem making a guy do two jobs for the price of one up there in New England. No problem.


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[Assistant] I mean yea, he's there, his son's there, and we know they kinda are. Matt Patricia's probably gonna be involved in those conversations along with a few other guys. But, I don't know. The defensive thing, I would think we're getting close to going, wait, why isn't your son the defensive coordinator? Maybe he doesn't want to put the pressure on him there quite yet with that? I don't know, but this is year three of him being that guy, I believe.


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[Assistant] A whole lot of options at the time I hired him. What do you think of that?


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[Assistant] I understand the thought. I think there is some truth to what he's saying. Here's what I would say. I would say the big time A-list coaches. Really big time ones.


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[Assistant] Will not be intimidated by the Jones family. Sean Patons of the world. Bill Parcells of the world. Shanahan McVeigh.


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[Assistant] Belichick, whoever, Andy Reid, they're not gonna be like, oh gosh, I'm shaking in my boots, I can't go work for the Cowboys cause the Jones family.


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[Assistant] They're not gonna have it. They're, they realize how big the Cowboys name is, what an honor it is to be a part of that, and I think those kind of guys also are gonna go like,


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[Assistant] So, that to me is where it's a little different. And, you know, it just hasn't worked out that way quite yet where those A-listers want to go there. Hey, I'll say that even with Jason Garrett. I mean, Jason Garrett was looked at as an A-list candidate when he was coming up the ranks as head coach. He turned down


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[Assistant] To become instant head coach Falcons and Ravens head coach.


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[Assistant] Because he was going, wait, in a year from now I could have the cowboy's job. And I still think it has that allure to it.


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[Assistant] But I do think it takes, it will take a big time self confident coach to go in there and kind of deal with, deal with them.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's better odds than Rich Strike Pizza. He's on fire today. But yeaah, I mean, it's on my radar. I mean, no doubt about it. I mean, it's definitely, I'm going to be looking, if the Cowboys don't play Expectations this year,


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[Assistant] We're gonna hear Sean Payton and the Cowboys in December. Whether that happens or not, I don't know. But that's definitely gonna be...


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[Assistant] Listen, Florio knows there was a deal in place to get Sean Payton to the Cowboys a few years ago anyways. It just happened that the deal was kind of in place to where Anthony Davis was trading for the Pelicans.


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[Assistant] And he was going to go to the Cowboys and the Saints and Mickey Loomis was like, wait, I can't lose the two biggest superstars in the city in the same weekend. And that kind of stopped it. That's interesting. Right. So uhm, but I don't think


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[Assistant] The great coaches are, if they go there, they're gonna understand, I mean the Jones family's gonna understand, like, they're, if they go, like McVeigh or Shanahan went there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't understand that. I don't understand why those two teams got worse. So Pointsbet thinks the gap did close though between the Cowboys and Eagles. I mean, I would agree with that. I think it's even closer than that number of states right there, really. You know, first off, our Jake Kuhd 13.


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[Assistant] That's a good question. Giants have made a lot of improvements. I'm not ready to put them in the, they might steal the NFC East conversation quite yet.


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[Assistant] Not, you know, just too many new parts, new coaching staff, all that. I think everything's gonna be better, but I don't think they're there yet.


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[Assistant] You know, I would supply Washington more as the more of a threat with Philadelphia than over the Giants as of right now. Yeah, I would. I mean, Washington again, there's some things to like about their football team and where they're at. But I think all in all, man,


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[Assistant] I think Philly is right there with Dallas on paper right now. I mean, and just again, it's, it's, we're talking one of the best O-lines in football, one of the best D-lines in football. Receivers are pretty damn, damn good in Philadelphia. What if they lead the league in Russia?


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[Assistant] I cannot wait to see Jordan Davis next to Fletcher Cox next to Javon Hargrave with the six biggest ass cheeks on the field on the same defensive line in the history of football altogether.


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[Assistant] That is going to be unreal. And we're going to show clips of it. End zone views when they first come on the field. And we'll look at the size of these asses and this is why nobody can run.


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[Assistant] I'm Mike with your heads out there, and I'm gonna piggyback with you there. I think you're right.


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[Assistant] That was, that had to be big money. Like Morgan's, Morgan, who does our social media here, told her boyfriend, just put $10 on Rich Strike and let's take a chance. Typical man, didn't listen to the girl, didn't listen to the woman, thinks he's a know-it-all, didn't listen. How dare he? But, bottom line is,


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[Assistant] Once the game starts, don't just bet, live your bet life with points bet. You like how I tied that all together? You did, it was like a story. Was I like Ahmed Farid and Mike Tirico on Derby coverage right there? Like a story tell. I felt like I was.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, you know me, I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a little bit like, uhm,


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[Assistant] Like some of my friends and the school that I got brought up in. I was brought up in Phil Simms, Bill Parcell, the school of football. I'm a believer in big people and you win the line of scrimmage first and then let's start to work on everything from out there. That's just the way I see it. I always have. To me, again,


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[Assistant] If you're, if you want a chance in every game, right, just a chance, and let's just make, uh, the teams that are always there, at least that are to be, they always have the good offense and defense line, because there's never a game or a team they play where they go, oh no, we're mismatched up here.


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[Assistant] And now we have to compromise all these other things to help up here to take over and help that out. And oh no, now we're compromised here too, because we had to help out the other compromise. So you're like, it's a double whammy.


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[Assistant] And again, I think if you get into really ultimately the better teams in football, as we discuss a lot, you start to see that. That's a real thing. You know, every now and then you can get away with like,


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[Assistant] The Rams with an average offensive line, but you better have a really good coach who knows how to checks and balances and save them and, and you know, trick people to keep them off them at times. That's where that's, that's rare.


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[Assistant] You know, again, you know, eh, Tennessee Titans, you see number one seed, uh, the Green Bay Packers got on the lead offensive line. Defensive line needs to be better, man. That's why they can't get there. 49ers every year. It's good offensive line, good defensive line. You know, Chiefs are kind of in that conversation too. The Bucks won the Super Bowl two years ago. What'd they have?


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[Assistant] No, and hopefully I'd have the eye for the quarterback, which I do believe I do. So O-line, D-line, okay, here we got a quarterback. I'm gonna get me a special receiver.


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[Assistant] Like that's, that's gonna happen. I want, my team and my, I want a special receiver to make the defense show their hands.


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[Assistant] I might go with the receiver right now.


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[Assistant] I might. And just go, okay, I'll get one less, a little bit of a lesser D-line guy there. Maybe try to build it with numbers more than necessarily just the big superstars there. But, uh, I'm a believer in the receiver thing right now in the NFL. I have been, I have been really since last year's draft when we had it in the chase, Penny Sewell. Remember? I was very torn there because I like big people.


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[Assistant] But I was like, well, Detroit's got big people, I mean, and I just thought...


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[Assistant] Like, uh, I'm losing my train of thought. Oh, I thought-


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[Assistant] Chase could change the game more, just because he was so extraordinary. Right. Even though I like big people and I'm like, uuuh, I just, oh that's such a hard thing to do. Okay, you know, again, you can find second rounders, third rounders, and guys like that to kind of fill in. As receivers, it's hard to fill in late in the draft.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I'm hoping that, you know, that's where me and maybe my special eye for a quarterback could just, yeah, I could draft one and go, okay, we got it. Here we go. Like I found my guy. Get your Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott in the fourth round or something like that. Maybe that would be great. That would be great.


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[Assistant] Yes, the day to day rigors of like, let's go through every, you know, you know, play, detail, homework, coach the guy, all of that. Yes, I do. I like the idea of team building and being presented with that challenge and trying to find the right guys to fit the team.


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[Assistant] He is a tough football player. Uh, I actually like really love kickers. I do. I do. I always gave it to all my kickers that I ever played with to say, you're not a real football player and all that. But, uh, I always had great relationships and was around some pretty colorful personalities as kickers that I had fun with too.


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[Assistant] Yeah, good question. Alright, there's two. You hit me off with two things here. First off, if I have to listen to any more NFL coverage where...


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[Assistant] What, what, what are the shotgun inside zone play? Oh no! There's four plays in college football right now. Nobody in the NFL is stealing anything from anybody in college. There's nothing to be stolen. It's as basic as ever in college football. It's why we have the conversation about the offense alignment every year.


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[Assistant] Because the SEC and the Big Ten are the only two conferences that even run some plays other than...


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[Assistant] Read option. Uh, RPO. Screen to the receiver. Whoa! Man, every team in football is going to the college lab and they're like, how do you throw that screen to the receiver out there? Okay, you got my sarcasm there? Yes. Everybody on TV, stop saying that. Alright? Cause when you say that stuff,


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[Assistant] That's just lazy, alright. Now, the other thing is, you want to be underneath the center. Center's definitely got more, more of a...


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[Assistant] On the defense, right? You played quarterback. Think about like, when you pulled away from the center and now you turn your back, the linebacker's going, wait, this really looks like a run.


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[Assistant] And now he's underneath the sun. He doesn't see the ball. He sees a running back coming downhill towards him. And now he starts to go, well, I have to start getting ready to come downhill too, because there's a running back running at full speed and maybe a full back too. So you got to start respecting that at some point.


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[Assistant] Where if you're in the shotgun, yes, you have to respect it, but more times or not, what I hate about the shotgun is running backs don't get to go downhill. It always starts off going horizontally.


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[Assistant] As a play action off of that, okay, you don't have to come down as come downhill at the same rate as you do to me with


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[Assistant] Underneath the center. You can kinda, you almost always go sideways. You take a few steps. That's why the RPO became a thing. Wait, the linebackers keep shoveling to the side of, shuffling to the side of the run fake, and now we can hit a little slant over here, right? That's why they started to do it.


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[Assistant] So that's great from that aspect, but you're not gonna get the linebackers and people up into the line of scrimmage that are necessarily always gonna open up the big 25 yard crossers or the 20 yard incuts. And, and that to me is where you have a little bit of an advantage that way with underneath the center as compared to


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[Assistant] Uh, shotgun, plus you can do different actions too. Think about like, you probably came out a quarterback in high school football and like put the ball out this way and then faked it the other way and then kept the ball for a pass down the field, right? So there's two actions that have got, instead of you just


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[Assistant] Riding the guy in the shotgun. Yeaah. And the linebacker shuffles with it, and okay it has some effect, but to me not the same effect.


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[Assistant] No doubt about it. The bootleg has more effect too underneath the center. I mean, yes, it's a form of play action, so you're right. We should involve that in it. But yes, also within that fake and then seeing the empty hand,


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[Assistant] One of the great things I ever learned from my Paul Hackett, Nathaniel Hackett's father,


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[Assistant] His first year in the offense to what you're saying, he made us hand the ball off.


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[Assistant] Alright, and you had to watch the running back for two steps as you handed it off. But then on play action pass or anything like that, you also had to do the same thing. Now that's all cool and dandy, but when you're playing Julius Peppers and you go, wait, let me fake the handoff even though I got the ball in my hand. And let me keep watching him like, hey, he's got the ball.


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[Assistant] It takes some, some guts to do that. Because you're going, damn, does Julius Peppers know that, you be sure he's going for this fake or is he gonna be on my chin when I turn around here? Right. But it's amazing the effect and that's why you see Rodgers do it. He does the little two skips or two hops because that's a hack it thing.


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[Assistant] And it adds to it. Plus, I think there's more ability to get people open downfield and more protection versatility when you're underneath the center as compared to the shotgun as well.


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[Assistant] So that's the other aspect I like about underneath center. Not even close to me. Gotta have some underneath element in the offense.


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[Assistant] That's right. You know, again, this is a little bit of like a conversation before. There's a lot of things here. You know, again, we're talking about the league in totality. Again, some of the great offenses in football, you could get away with, oh, the guy who knows their assignments and executes because they'll just, the offense itself, the play callers don't know how to get people open.


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[Assistant] To where that can be done. But let's just say, again,


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[Assistant] We're going middle of the road everything, right? Your league average, league average offense, league average play caller, whatever, all of that together.


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[Assistant] Man, I feel like I'm actually the guy that would probably want the ultra-talented guy, really. I would just go, well, yeah, he doesn't, you know, I mean, again, there's a fine line here with all of this. To what degree? To what degree? I know, we can't have like some shithead who just like gives up and just doesn't give a shit at all.


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[Assistant] The person maybe just wasn't giving like their all and their free time to be all they could be. Definitely had that. That's frustrating. It's very frustrating.


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[Assistant] Well that's, that's why, this is why I love Brandon Marshalls of the world. This is why, like, I was best buddies with him and Joey Galloway. Cause they were like me. They lived it, they loved it.


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[Assistant] You know, and I could always depend, let's go to the park and have a catch. They were always like, let's do it. You know, it didn't matter when it was. And, and that's where, that's where it becomes special because now you go, whoa, here's the talented guy who, you know, knows their assignment and executes and he's got this freaky talent we're talking about.


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[Assistant] And I think, and I'll simplify the offense and make it to where, okay, yeah, you might not be great at all these routes and do all these, but we'll get to the routes you want to get and we'll be dangerous that way.


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[Assistant] These are playing into each other here a little bit. This is perfect. Because these are two guys that we just talked about, right? To me, these are the Brendan Marshalls, Joey Galloway's. They love football. They love the craft. You could tell leading up in the draft process how much they did. Justin Jefferson, I felt like I was talking to a fellow quarterback.


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[Assistant] So he loves him. You know, so they love the game, and then ultimately...


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[Assistant] They have the physical talent to what we were just talking about, to where you go, well, this is, this is special talent.


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[Assistant] Yes, it might not be perfect route running, but okay, we've seen a little things here and there to go. They can do it and all that. So like the, the things you see first off is what we've always talked about receiver, pure raw physical ability. When, when the play was simple and they were being covered by good guys, could they just get open all the time? Yes, they could. That's what jumped out to me.


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[Assistant] You know, people go, oh, Justin Jefferson, he's over the middle a lot for LSU. And I would go, okay, but he's not over the middle of this play, and this guy's gonna go in the first round of the corner, and he's running by him.


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[Assistant] So, I know there was some system plays, but you're losing fact of the physical beast he is, just because he got put into a spot where they went, let's just let Jamar Chase be the beast all the time, and Jefferson is also a beast, but he's really good at this other stuff, let's just put him there.


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[Assistant] Getting off, just winning with pure raw physical ability, being able to get off jam is a huge thing, right?


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[Assistant] That's a big part of it. Can they come in the NFL and deal with these awesome Jalen Ramsey corners and still


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[Assistant] Than most, no doubt. A lot of people saw Chase's ability, but yea, you had him at two. Yea, yea, I know. I was a huge fan of Justin Jefferson, I was. He got too much of, well they moved him in the slot, he must not be as talented. And I just was like, no no, they moved him in the slot because he's good at that, and they got a freak on the outside too, so they got the best of both worlds.


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[Assistant] You know what I want to say too? That's where like my Alex Pierce thing with that. And I loved Alex Pierce. I had people reach out to me when they, like last week, like, like, dude, you're, you know, you moved Alex Pierce out of your top five. You should have just kept him there.


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[Assistant] He's already gotten better at the route running and released things that you were worried about a little bit. Huh. Yes, right. And then Chris Battler made a comment last week at their workout with Wizzr and I'm already regretting that too. Cause again, I made my evaluation a little going, I've seen enough to think he can do this stuff. Yeah. But I let a few people scare me off it and I'm already kind of pissed off that I did it.


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[Assistant] I am, but, uh, we'll see where that goes. That's where there's a balance in this, that conversation. No, that's the good thing about changing your mind, is we can just go back to the original.


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[Assistant] No, he's had issues. He's not good in pass protection. That's probably the biggest issue. He's not bad in the run game.


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[Assistant] But yea, top 20 pick, has he lived up to that billing? No, he's not, he's not lived up to that billing. Alright, so that's a valid question, I understand that. Linderbaum is way more athletic than Gary Bradbury was coming out. Linderbaum is arguably the best athlete I've ever seen at center since I've been doing this. Now I didn't evaluate Jason Kelsey when he was coming out, I was still


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[Assistant] But, you know, Bradbury, uh, I was definitely in draft eval with all of that. The, the, the, the power and the blocking is not on linear bombs. Uhm, it's, it's just not as high quality.


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[Assistant] And again, Linderbaum, you heard me during the process, I was going, wait, is this guy really gonna block some of these big guys as I turn on this film? Cause he's really gonna be able to do this, like, all game. It's, it's, it's almost perfection.


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[Assistant] It really is. I only saw one guy really give him issues the whole year and it was the guy from Iowa State, uh, Equiname. Uh, so, that was it. I think Lindner-Bomb has Pro Bowl talent and is a better player than Brad Berry was coming out.


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[Assistant] We might have to keep the tight end to block too, alright? We definitely have to do both. But, uh, there's a few. There's a few. Like, man, I look at like, the Eagles as we've talked about earlier.


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[Assistant] All systems go. I mean, Florio, yeaah, it's gonna take five or six seconds and you might have to shuffle up in the pocket a little bit. Yeaah. But they might be able to do it for sure. Uh, the Bucks are, I think, one of those offensive lines that I look at that in, in when they're healthy and ready to go. And really the Chiefs, I would probably throw in that category as well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, usually post routes are like generally talked about, let's throw the ball on the hash somewhere between 42 and 45 yards. That's usually where they reach. So now when I had Joey Galloway, it was like 42 yards. We're not throwing the ball. Okay. So that's like a 40 yard dash or more.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're right. Six seconds. Sorry. So it says you're right. He's 58 years old. So it's gonna be a little longer. Maybe, maybe I was thinking 40, 40 in the 40s. Uhm, yeah, you're right. Now we're gonna probably keep the two tight ends in the block and, and a running back.


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[Assistant] Total max protection, and we're gonna have to have Jamar chase on the other side of the field, and I'm gonna have to pump fake it to Jamar three times, and then come back to Florio. So it's possible? It's possible, yes. If you have the greatest offense in line.


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[Assistant] Run, play designer. Alright, app Peloton of one. Run, run game designer. It's hard for me not to say Shanahan's the leader there.


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[Assistant] Shanahan to me, Shanahan and Greg Roman's very good. There's no doubt. Roman, if you watch the Ravens, you know...


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[Assistant] They got checks and balances for everything too. To where it's, you gotta really watch it sometimes. You go, well, that's the same play they ran before. And you go, oh no, it's actually not. They, it kinda looks the same, but there's a little nuance there. And that's why that run worked. What is it? Is it like, uh,


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[Assistant] It is a little bit of that, exactly right. It's about having, I always use the phrase checks and balances. Oh, they're overplaying this run to the left. Oh, here's a run that looks like a run to that same runs coming to you guys. Oh no, it's not. It's a screw job. Here goes our guy the other way for 40 yards. Good job defending that run to the left though.


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[Assistant] That's where they're special. You know, they not only can just do meat and potatoes, smash mouth football, but they have the creativity and things to always keep you off balance and you don't know what to look for or what's coming.


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[Assistant] So that's where I think, you know, when I think run game, and I don't mean to leave anybody out, but yea, the 49ers are one of them. The Ravens, as you heard me say. I think the Patriots are.


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[Assistant] I mean, they have a lot of different ways too. And again, I mean, they did go a game this year where they said, we're not going to throw the ball. We're going to run the ball every play the whole game. And they did it against a team that we went, they could have won the Superbowl of the Bills, right? So there's something there to that. Uh, and then the Browns, the Browns, I will say more just through the,


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[Assistant] But it's a little more simple checks and balances approach. He doesn't have quite the creativity. But again, we're talking the 49ers and Debo Samuel and all that was done. Nobody's ever done that.


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[Assistant] Right, so that kinda tells you right there. Alright, what about the pass play designer? Pass game, like, I get into...


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[Assistant] The Chiefs, right, Reid and, and Bianna Mee. I get into Josh McDaniels a little here as well. I get to Frank Reich, alright. I get to Brian Dayball.


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[Assistant] And I get to Byron Lefwich. I think those are the ones, you know, Sean Payton's out of football, so he's, he's not getting any love here right now. Of course, he's, he's really awesome. That to me would be the ones in the pass game that I think are really special. And if you asked me to do one there, I'm probably going to go with the Bucks.


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[Assistant] I feel like Byron Lefwich's offense, the extension of Bruce Arian's offense, and I'm gonna just tell you, best overall play caller.


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[Assistant] He's in this conversation as well for me. Really? He is. No doubt about it. I love the Bucs offense. I did a few things on Sunday Night Football this year.


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[Assistant] You know, they're the best screen team in football. They're the best at finding ways to throw people aggressively down the field to be wide open. And then I feel like what they've taken from Brady and the ways to kind of surgically dissect you for five and eight yards from the New England offense, and they've encompassed that all together.


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[Assistant] I just go, I think I might like their offense the best in football. And then they have the ability, the run game's not overly creative, but they can play a smash mouth style run game that I like too.


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[Assistant] You know, again, McDaniel, Shanahan, Dayball, uh, Andy, Andy Reid, Frank Reich, all there. I think my best favorite overall offense is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] Yep, alright, so I think the, the, I'm always, you know, quarterbacks, I'm always confident in that. You know, again, I'm gonna be wrong, you're always gonna be wrong with some of these.


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[Assistant] Uh, wide receiver, I feel like I got a pretty good history with. You know, I don't know if that's just because I, you know, I'm through to a lot of them and I know what to kind of look for there.


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[Assistant] Defense end, I feel like I've been pretty good too. Corner I'm pretty good with.


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[Assistant] I think those are kind of my strong, strong positions. O-line, I'm gonna say I've had a few swing and misses here and there. O-line's hard. Again, it's one where I would love to see people in person a little bit. It does help that way.


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna say it's a bad position for me, but I feel like it's one where I've come away more years than the other ones and gone, ah, the guy I had three should have been one.


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[Assistant] And I don't feel that way in some of the other positions. Like Tristan Wirfs that year. I go, I missed that. He should have been one. I don't know what I was thinking. I put too much emphasis on foot speed a little bit. And I made a re-evaluate me.


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[Assistant] Expert, you would definitely want, I would want a great offensive line coach like Shanahan has or McDaniels have had and all that because you can lean on them. You go, there's little nuances, you're going to go, me, ex-quarterback, ex-receiver, I don't know all the nuances of the line, hey, online coach,


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[Assistant] Give me, what do I need to look at here with that? So yes, there's certainly something there. Running back is another one I've missed out on.


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[Assistant] No doubt about it. That to me is the biggest one where I'd like to see people in person a little bit more. Uhm, but yea, I think maybe I've gotten a little caught in, you know, the highlight factor of the running back game. Uh, maybe then some of the other positions. So where, those are the weaker ones I would guess.


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[Assistant] I do, I do. I feel like I got some experience there. I was fortunate to be on some teams with some other good ones. So I know what Champ Bailey looked like. I got to play with Ty Law. I got to play with Ronde Barber and John Lynch.


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[Assistant] And, you know, some guys there that I keep to leave where I went up. I've seen these motherfuckers in person. I know what a good one looks like. So yes, there is, there is an aspect there where


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[Assistant] Last year, I know I put Tyson Campbell as my number two above Patrick Surtain. Surtain should have been two.


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[Assistant] But I'm very happy about my Tyson Campbell proclamation. Nobody in sports media was saying Tyson Campbell should have been an end of the first round pick or anything like that. Started day one for Jacksonville, played really good for them all year long.


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[Assistant] So I'm like, even though I was maybe a hair wrong there, I still liked that I had the eye to pick out a guy that nobody was talking about, and I feel pretty good at that position.


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[Assistant] If it's the option, I'll do it. I'll do it. But man, that's, that's some thick bread and...


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[Assistant] You know, man, you better have a glass of water or something to, to, uh, I usually, Pete asked me if I usually throw them out. No, I have four chickens and a rooster, so I throw them out the window, and they'll eat them at some point. For the animals. The animals, right. Nothing goes to waste in the Sims household, right? My son likes them. I don't know why. He likes the end?


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[Assistant] How can you not like sandwiches and then expect a sandwich made after you?


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[Assistant] I do, I'm already, I'm on me with it. Even when I do peanut butter and jelly, I might throw a barbecue chip or two on a certain bite. Oh, like the crunch. And be like, damn, it's so good now? Yes. Yes, I'm with you there.


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[Assistant] Let's see, Pete. Damn, Pete's gonna be a real tough position to find.


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[Assistant] He's, he's, he's limited. He's limited. He might be the kicker. He's auditioning for holding. Not a real football player. He's a kicker. Um, you're, man, I don't know, maybe I need to


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[Assistant] We need to get the best team on the field. Maybe you need to play quarterback. I need to play like tight end of receiver. And Paul needs to be the other tight end of receiver. Something like that. None of us are defensive guys.


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[Assistant] Just throw me back shoulders and jump balls. That's all I want. I'm not gonna get separation, but I can play the ball and I got big hands and I got a big catch radius.


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[Assistant] Definitely. Just checking out social media from all angles all the time. Without a doubt.


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[Assistant] We made that team, right? We did. I don't want to live there. Sorry. I don't want to live there. We're moving. This is my team. We're coming up to New York. Sorry.


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[Assistant] It's almost like we hit this a little bit like with the Kobe Dean. I don't think he's the best linebacker in the draft. But he's in a spot right now where I go, those three big asses we talked about.


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[Assistant] And the way they play a defensive scheme, to where all the things that were negatives about his game, he's not gonna really have to deal with in that defense. So that's a big positive for him. To where I'd go,


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[Assistant] He's not the best linebacker in the draft, he's not one of the three or four best, but statistically at the end of this year he could look like he's the best. Because it's just the absolute perfect position and spot for him that way. Alright, so that's one for sure.


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[Assistant] You know, the German- again, I love Jermaine Johnson, so I don't want to go there, but I do think it's just awesome system fit just as far as first round guys. You know, second round, this is one I should have looked up prior to the, uh, to the, uh, the damn- That's alright, we're over an hour in.


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[Assistant] Alec Pierce is definitely another one. Alec Pierce for sure.


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[Assistant] I know, it's come up, yeaah. I mean, we're in, you know, round two, and where they got him, I just think, yes, and the fact of...


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[Assistant] Again, almost like Christian Watson and the Green Bay, it's like they kinda, he's kinda gotta help them out this year. So there's a little bit of like desperation from the team, and then there's talent with the player, and then I've said Frank Reich is one of the better play callers in the past game, and that to me is where I go, see, Al Pierce gonna show his ass this year.


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[Assistant] That to me was like the thing I couldn't wait to say on this pod all week is some of the pushback I got last week when people found out I knocked Alec Pierce down a little bit. He's back in everyone. He's back. He's number two receiver in the draft. Uh, there's, there's gosh, there's so, I mean, I, again, I look at James Cook.


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[Assistant] With the Buffalo Bills, I would throw him in that conversation because it's just a perfect scenario. He's not as good as Kenneth Walker, he's not as good as Breece, Breece Hall.


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[Assistant] He's in a place where everyone's been going, Oh, you gotta worry about Josh Allen. Oh, we gotta worry about Stefan Diggs and Gabriel Davis. Oh, we forgot about him underneath. Oh my gosh. He's wide open with 40 yards of space to run. That's just another perfect scenario for me. All right. You want me to keep rattling off guys?


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[Assistant] I know. Listen, no disrespect to those guys. I'm just not sold as of right now that those are the frontrunners. Again, we've been thrown into this con- this seems a little bit of what you've been hearing me say, Ahmed. Oh, Rivals.com made him one. Oh, he's on the good college team. The college team's good. The Rivals.com guy must have been right. He's that good. Let's just keep going with it.


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[Assistant] You know, Spencer Rattler is the number one pick and Sam Howell is the number one pick. And that's where it's all went because I feel like it's that same conversation. Oh, highly ranked quarterback coming out of high school. Ooh, he's doing kind of good in college. Has to be one of the top quarterbacks in the draft. Still, there's things I like, certainly. There's no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] Kid, and, and, and they, they might be there. I, I, again, I look at them as going, oh, this is more talented than the Sam Howells or the, the kid in, uh, Oklahoma, right? Two guys that pop to me.


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[Assistant] Caleb motherfucking Williams, who's going to USC.


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[Assistant] Don't sleep on him. I didn't realize until this spring, Caleb Williams is as big as he is, and then watching him, like, Caleb Williams can really throw the ball.


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[Assistant] Caleb Williams, I think, might have been the first quarterback drafted this year if he came out. Right? The next guy I'll throw in there, and I don't know if I know his name.


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[Assistant] Kentucky quarterback. That's all I know. He, he, he transferred from Penn State. I can't think of his name. Yes, Will Levis, Pete.


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[Assistant] Man, I don't, just watching film, of course, all I did was watch the SEC during the draft process. Right. Right? It's the SEC's, like, every position, you're like, uh, SEC guy.


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[Assistant] He made a lot of throws where I went, ooh, this kid's got like athleticism and can spin it and throw it with power. Big guy. Those are the two guys outside of, we're gonna be told Stroud and Bryce Young all year, no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] Levi's? Did you say Levi's? Is that how you say it, Pete? Levi's, Levis, sorry, no disrespect, we're still just learning you here, and then... It'll be a year until we learn it properly. Caleb Williams. Yeah. Yeah. Caleb Williams, who followed his coach to USC, and of course came in for Spencer Rattler, and never looked back there in Oklahoma.


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[Assistant] They're in the, they're in the running here. Like, alright, let's just, let's say this, and you can help me out here a little bit. This doesn't have to be totally me. Okay, alright, alright. But...


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[Assistant] I am. It's, it's a little close, but I'm gonna still do it. That defense, you know, that offensive line with healthy. Hmm.


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[Assistant] I know there's no AJ Brown. That is a different thought there. I know. I'm still gonna do it. I'm gonna put them there. I am.


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[Assistant] I've got, I know, I've got one, two, three, right? Is that, uh, it really would be, uh, well just, this is just a top five, so it's in no particular order. No particular, yea, it's no particular order, it's just the five. Now, this is where it gets, it gets interesting.


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[Assistant] And I think I'm gonna put Cincinnati there. I am. Like Cincinnati, it's not a one-year wonder to me. It was not a fluke. It was not. We saw potential before the year. You wondered if they could do it. You wondered where Joe Burroughs knee was gonna be all at. Those questions are all gone. I look at them and go, yeah, roster is pretty damn good.


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[Assistant] And I think they will be a little chippy. I'm gonna throw them in there. And now we get to this.


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[Assistant] It is, it is really unbelievable. It actually is. The more I sit here and think about this. Alright, so right off the bat, just to end this conversation.


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[Assistant] Between the Chargers, the Ravens, and the Patriots. Okay. That would be the running for the last one there.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go with the- I was gonna go with the Patriots just because of the proven commodity. I know, but I'm scared.


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[Assistant] You go Chargers. I would go Chargers. I understand that. They've, they've made the proper adjustments here to improve the uh, you know what, I'm gonna change it too. I'm gonna go with the Patri- I mean the Chargers too. You are. I am. I'm gonna join you. Okay. I'm gonna join you. I think they've done enough. I think the online got better. We know the receivers and quarterback are special.


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[Assistant] You know, they got a running back, you know, mid rounds of the draft, and then I, they got bigger on the D line, got Khalil Mack, got some corners to go along with it, I'm gonna join you in the Chargers conversation. That's a tough one, because the Ravens and Patriots are proven battle-tested commodities, but for the sake of this exercise and having a little fun, I'll go with the Chargers here.


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[Assistant] I can see, like, the team that I think that, you know, again, Cincinnati, what they did is special.


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[Assistant] I can see Detroit being better, for sure.