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[Assistant] They think like the talented guys won't listen to the coaching or they're not smart. And I want to go, why? Cause you know, once every three games, he makes some crazy throw, you know, but yet.


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[Assistant] Her cousins is really smart and then I want to go, well once every few games, he throws some of the dumbest interceptions I've ever seen or, or Ryan Fitzpatrick or anything like that. I hate that notion. You know, when you really look at the great quarterback team combos, everything like that, what was there? Yeah, the quarterback was smart. We talked about all the great quarterbacks are smart, but you know,


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[Assistant] It was a talented quarterback who had some brains to go with a little creativity a la Dan Fouts and Air Corrielle and all of those things. Uh, but I think too much and too often people think that guys like


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[Assistant] Yeah, Mahomes and some of these other freaky talented guys, I heard this when they were coming out on the draft. I, you know, I don't know if he's gonna do what I tell him to do.


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[Assistant] How do you know that? Why? You know? And then I also don't like the fact that like, hey, with the Tom Brady, he gets pegged as that guy sometimes. And I'm gonna go, no, he's not. Tom's talent doesn't get the attention it deserves. Tom's arm is big time. Tom made a play in the first game last year against the Houston Texans where


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[Assistant] Oh Aaron Rodgers, you're the greatest quarterback I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] You like it better? How dare you? Blasphemy. No, that's okay. A little catch here. A little catch here. Yeaah. Yeaah. I mean, I don't know how I even came up with the Aaron Rodgers thing. Again, me sitting on the couch is being stupid at home. But yes, Aaron Rodgers to me is still the number one quarterback in all of football. Biggest reason.


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[Assistant] Right? And, you know, those are the things, again, they're minute negatives of Patrick Mahomes, but yeah, I would, I, I would like to think that, I don't like to think, I know, like,


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers, the start of the New England game early last year, the first game, right? You know, oh, they got people at the line of scrimmage, uh, Mahomes just thinks they're blitzing, cause they're gonna, you know, they're at the line of scrimmage, they're gonna blitz, he drops back to pass, he thinks Kelsey's wide open over the middle, no, Dante Hightower faked the blitz and dropped out, you threw it right in his chest to start the game, right? Remember that?


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[Assistant] Those are things I just go, no, that's not gonna happen with Aaron Rodgers. Now again, did Aaron Rodgers have some ugly moments last year? Sure.


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[Assistant] Their offense and everything? Yes! I mean, hey, we can go to the Cardinals game, where they got fi- Mike McCarthy fired. We can go to the Buffalo game, where it was tough sledding.


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[Assistant] But the thing I want to tell people and I wish I could sit down and watch film with them on these type of things is go, you know, we could sit there and watch the 30 passes he dropped back in the game.


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[Assistant] The biggest reason to me why he couldn't carry the team as can maybe compared to other years where, you know, there was no real legitimate run game or the defense wasn't great. The defense is improving, but the last year


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[Assistant] The pass protection was really an issue in Green Bay. At least the other years when I complained about lack of creativity and lack of big time weapons and lack of a run game.


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[Assistant] It was a little bit like Deshaun Watson at times. I mean with Byron Bell, you know, starting on the offensive line, they had some injuries in the interior part. There were some games where it was just like,


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[Assistant] No, between nobody being open and how quickly people were getting to be around him, he couldn't do anything.


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[Assistant] And that he'll be protected. I am so excited for this year. Yes, and I am expecting one of the best years of Aaron Rodgers career because I think it's going to be the first time really in a long time that he has the correct support system. I think, you know, all of us aligned. They made proper adjustments.


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[Assistant] I think you've got a coach, two coaches in Lafleur and the offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, who know how to coach the run game.


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[Assistant] This is gonna be the first time ever we're gonna go, oh, Aaron Rodgers doesn't have to drop back and like, just make magic happen and has to throw three touchdowns and they have to score 30 points to win a game. He might actually be able to go like,


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[Assistant] Oh, okay, well, my defense might be able to win this game. Maybe I approach it differently. Maybe I'd manage the game differently. We might win 23-20 today, or 20-17. But yeah, I expect between that


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[Assistant] Refreshing. And you know, I can't tell you enough about how elementary the offense was and is. And again, you know, I did this, I've been doing this to people on the radio a lot the last few weeks.


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[Assistant] Right, Aaron Jones is, but, but we're going to talk about other quarterbacks that are saying, oh, they don't have great talent around them. I want to go, you know, Jimmy Graham.


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[Assistant] I've been able to know it's a name, but it's certainly not like in the conversation for one of the best tight ends in football anymore. And this year it looks better because? I just think because of the run game. I think there's going to be more dynamic schemes on a week to week basis. He's going to be running play action passes that he's never run before. He's going to be taught little things. He's going to be taught little things.


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[Assistant] About coverages and how these plays work and just little intricacies of what to read to make the play work that he's never been taught before. I mean, that's the difference between good coaching and bad coaching. You know, a lot of teams have the same plays.


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[Assistant] You know, I went to, with John Gruden, and went, oh, we got this play, okay, and then I went with Josh McDaniels, and it was the same play, but Josh had a few little things to read or do within the, and I went, oh my gosh.


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[Assistant] This play is so much better now that he taught it that way. Right, there was a huge difference. Even though it was the same play, he gave us a different thing to think about or look or read and all of a sudden...


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[Assistant] With, let's say, uhm, the, the slot guy is gonna run like a 15 yard out over the top of it. And generally, it's a play you want to run versus cover, too. You're gonna high-low that corner out there, right?


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[Assistant] And with Gruden, we only would have ran the play with cover two. And he would have only said, he would have only said, I really only want you to play that side of the field if it's cover two. And if it's not, I have a single safety concept on the other side. Right.


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[Assistant] Is different, first of all, where they don't do, oh we're gonna read one side or the other. Their plays are full field reads. They start in one spot and they go across the whole field.


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[Assistant] Which not a lot of teams in football do. It's very rare. I mean, when new people go up there and work there, they're always like, did you know that New England did this? And I'm like, yes, I've known for a long time. What's the biggest cut against the grain that people learn?


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[Assistant] Or if he did go way far out, right, and now you have the under against cover three, well he's out of there, and usually the underneath guy that's supposed to go like the curl flat area,


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[Assistant] Damn, this play is so much better and easier now. Yeaah. And that's the instances I'm talking about that I think Aaron Rodgers is going to be provided with more this year than ever.


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[Assistant] And that's, that is where New England is refreshing that way. Now can Tom, if something crazy happens, will he audible out it, do something like that? Certainly. I mean, he's Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, that's where it's just coaching comes into play and that's even for a guy like Aaron Rodgers who we know is extremely smart and got great experience.


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[Assistant] I always used to say, one of the things I would say about Aaron Rodgers is, he doesn't even know what he doesn't know. He doesn't. You know, he's watching tape of, you know, Breeze or Brady or some other great offenses and going,


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[Assistant] What the f**k? How is that guy open like that? How is he getting him open like that? And what are they doing? And a lot of it is about game planning, teaching, sequencing of plays, and then attacking rules on the defense, which I just don't think he was afforded the luxury of the last few years, and especially not last year, but I still think the decision making.


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[Assistant] It's top notch. You know, people are going to go, oh, he took a lot of sacks last year. Yes, he did. There are a few I wish he would have thrown the ball away. Yes. But like Deshaun Watson, there was a few where the pressure got on him so fast.


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[Assistant] Okay, it's maybe not as good as it was two, three years ago. It's good enough though. It's good enough though. Exactly right. It's still, it's still pretty top level in the NFL. So all of those things just make me sit here and go, yeah, I still think Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in football. He made me think twice this year with Patrick Mahomes, you know, breathing down his neck. But yes, I do think Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in football.


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[Assistant] I still think that Bears roster is better. I do. Uhm, but I do think that Green Bay Packers, and you know, their defense. He's gonna have a defense this year for the first time since, you know, 2011 and 12.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is, I look at their defense with Mike Patton and everything and I go, no, this should be a top 10 defense with, with the addition of Preston Smith and the addition of Zedarius Smith.


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[Assistant] And drafting Rashaun Gary, getting Adrian Amos in free agency from the Bears, getting a Darnell Savage also in the first round from Rashaun Gary, Jair Alexander who is


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[Assistant] In the conversation from one of the best corners in football already, his second year, there's a lot of things to like about the Green Bay team where I go, yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if they made a big turnaround and were a very relevant team in the NFC once again.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I don't think it's the wear and tear to that degree, you know. And the wear and tear, I don't know if I can necessarily say I do see wear and tear. No, I see him getting worn out and tore around by deposing defenses because there's not enough help there at times.


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[Assistant] No, I, you know, again, uhm, I understand that as he had his perfect peak of like play that he was, like I would say two, three years ago. No, but the play is still at,


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[Assistant] All time high level. And when there was something else I wanted to comment, which question was that? Let me just make sure I got all of that. Uh, then the middle?


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[Assistant] No, I didn't, I did not, but I did like severely consider it. I, when I first wrote it down, I started with Rodgers at one and Mahomes at two.


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[Assistant] And I let it settle, and like the next day, that's right back where I went to. I was like, okay, wait, am I really gonna, is Aaron Rodgers really number one? Am I really gonna say that?


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[Assistant] And, you know, again, to back to what he said, two dud years, hey,


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[Assistant] It's a teen, if he had Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey and one of the best offensive lines in football and Sammy Watkins, who's being paid like he's Odell Beckham Jr. and Kareem Hunn and all the other things around him, I don't think it would be all that different. I think you'd see a lot of the same statistics from him. So let's not forget that and let's not say


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[Assistant] What is it? 4,500 yards, 25 touchdowns and 2 interceptions? Let's, let's relax on...


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[Assistant] He had two dud years, like, okay, with Aaron Rodgers, I don't think that's the case. Aaron Rodgers and what he's had to do for that team is going to lend itself to injuries. He has to play the game closer to the edge than some of the other quarterbacks who are on really good football teams around them.


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[Assistant] Rogers has realized the last few years that if he doesn't make the plays, if he doesn't do it, they're not going to win the game. And we've heard their players back that up. Right. I mean, they've said that flat out. So yes, you know, as compared to a quarterback who's on a good team, who's got, okay, he's in the pocket and people are grabbing at him and


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[Assistant] You know, they might just go down and go, well, we're good. I'll get another crack at it here in a second and we'll make it happen. Rogers is, every player is like that. And he's always trying to make something happen because he goes, if I don't make it happen, I mean, what were they going to rely on? Their run game?


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[Assistant] Or the great offensive genius of, you know, what Mike McCarthy's offense did. And again, I like Mike McCarthy as a head coach. Just the offensive play caller, I would like to clarify that. That was my issue with Mike McCarthy. Deserves to be a head coach once again. Just want him to hire another offensive coordinator. That's not his strong point. Uhm, but that's all, that's all I'll say about that.


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[Assistant] He should have been 36, and everybody else should have been knocked down one. And you had RG3 at 36. Yes. That was one as I talked it out more and more. I said, oh, that was, that for me is the one that pisses me off.


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[Assistant] Okay, the biggest jump, and I mean, in a positive way, this is where I go to number 22 and number 23. Which is Darnold22-Alan23. I do. These guys, again, I'm ranking them for what they are right now. They're more talented than a lot of the guys that are in front of them.


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[Assistant] But I'm not going to say they're better players yet with the limited scope of what we've seen in a rookie year that was up and down for both of them. But I think their baseline potential, their ceiling.


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[Assistant] It's much higher than some of the guys in front of them. So I could see Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, all of them creeping into top 10, certainly top 15. I think they're that type of talent and we'll see if they can do that.


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[Assistant] I think it's going to be a lot of like just unbelievable awesome and then unbelievable oh gosh that was a disaster a little bit too. Because I think he's probably going to try to do too much at times and he's so physically gifted he's going to think I can pull it off. It's what you see with a lot of these quarterbacks that sometimes


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[Assistant] I think it's gonna be Can't Miss TV. I think he's gonna be in your top 20. You think he's gonna be in my top 20? I mean, he's certainly...


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[Assistant] Has the type of potential to do that. I mean, it, it's, it's a special type of talent again. It's a talent you don't see come around very often. Even though it's small and rare. Damn, did you see him beat Danny and Isabella the other day? Or Andy Isabella? Andy Isabella went to the combine and ran a 4-3-1 out of UMass. They got on the line and they showed it on Instagram. He beat him!


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[Assistant] I mean, that's what he is. I want to tell all the people who are going, how could you make him one of the five best scramblers in football and he doesn't even play a game? That's why. Because nobody can beat him in a race and he's gonna be electric when he


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, Baker Mayfield, again, along those same lines. Like, I have a 17. Okay. And I think a lot of people were like, man, that's low for Baker Mayfield. Then I get it. Yeah, Baker Mayfield. I mean, again, like, like Donald and Alan, the talent is better than


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[Assistant] Foles, cousins, some of the other guys, Rivers right now in this point of his career. I mean, it's better than all of those.


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[Assistant] Baker Mayfield still had some rookie moments last year where, you know, whether it was interceptions in the Ravens game or the Houston Texans game or here and there where he was a rookie and that's okay. And we just got to see it a little bit more. But you know, that's one where I go, I hope I'm wrong. And Matthew Stafford.


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[Assistant] Can he adjust to this new style of play in Detroit?


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[Assistant] Uh, and really adjust to being, you know, micromanage a little bit by Matt Patricia and wanting to run the ball and play through the defense. That's gonna be the big test for him, but I would gladly like to be wrong about him as well. I mean, all of them. I just hope everybody knows I really don't dislike any of these guys. I'm a fan. I love football.


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[Assistant] Do I like some quarterbacks more than others? Yes, but there's really nobody I dislike in football at the quarterback position. There's nobody. I mean, I'm, I'm, I respect them all. They're all tough. They all got talent. I know how hard it is to be successful at the position and really admire all of them. And it's just, it's never an easy or popular


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[Assistant] The perception can be always struggling and you're going, no, he's playing great. I mean, his coaches are telling him he's playing awesome, but you know, they've had a few tough losses and their defense gave us some big plays in the quarterback. All of a sudden the issue. So I know it's tough and it's never easy doing these rankings. And you know, the biggest thing is, and I'll go back to this. I've said this a lot over the last few weeks.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm guessing that's what they're putting out there and he's gonna fall off a cliff with a football emoji and the uhm, hmmm, I don't know about that part of it. Somebody said he was gonna fall off a cliff. Well, I believe it's Max Kellerman. I'm not 100% sure of that, but I'm pretty sure I remember, I was watching the show I feel like on like a Friday morning when Max Kellerman said it.


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[Assistant] So I feel like that's where it is, but I'm not totally 100% sure. But again, Tom Brady- How good is 61? It's really good.


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[Assistant] And Tom Brady, you've heard me say it, his arm is going to last a test of time. He can throw it. When Tom Brady is 55,


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[Assistant] We could still go out and have a catch and we're gonna go, damn, Tom can throw it. I mean, the way he's built as a human being, he's got big hands, he's got long arms, and then he does it the right way. He's got the right techniques to drive the ball and throw a ball 61 miles per hour.


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[Assistant] Which is freaking impressive. And I've seen it in person. He can throw lasers. So one thing, again, because people think I hate on Tom Brady,


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[Assistant] So one thing that drives me crazy is I end up defending them a lot to friends and especially people in the New York area who want to be haters on them, right?


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[Assistant] Tom Brady's talent does not get the credit it deserves. When Tom Brady was in his prime and even right now, the arm is special. It is a special arm. You know, is it Elway or Rogers or Marino? Okay, maybe not that.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot like I've said with like Joe Flacco, they can throw the 100 mile per hour fastball and it looks like they're throwing the change up.


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[Assistant] Then he did in 2012 and 13. And that was a time where I was like, ooh, I don't know how much longer this Tom Brady thing's gonna last. And I don't think New England did too, because that's why they drafted Jimmy Garoppolo in the second round those years. They were going, damn, things are not looking as good as we'd like them. And he made some tweaks and he's been phenomenal ever since.


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[Assistant] Doing that, but everything else. You gonna be on TV, on podcast? No, no, I mean we got the podcast. We're gonna release some things as we go here. We're gonna see about one a week, okay? And I don't think we know what day we're gonna do it yet. Probably a Wednesday maybe.


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[Assistant] Something like that along those lines. Uhm, we're gonna have a few things in the can. Hopefully we'll record, release other interviews. And yeaah, I'm gonna try to get in here and maybe do one, one here and there too, but I'm looking forward to just chilling.


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[Assistant] Right? It was a big year. I made a job change. As you know, I've been talking a lot.


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[Assistant] On TV, on podcasting a lot. I'm just gonna check out. Lots of tequila, lots of Mary Jane is coming my way the next month. The month of July. Yes it is, yes.


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[Assistant] Alice Cooper, really? Is that Alice Cooper? Order yours today.


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[Assistant] That was phenomenal. Because we could add some extra other like sound effects with Peter King from his side. Him between him chewing, slurping like drinks wise and commercial breaks and things like that. I've seen some pretty good moments with him too. That's next year. Yea, that's next year. Alright everybody.


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[Assistant] Paul Burmeister, Chris Sims, we're out. Hey, you the man. That was fun. I mean, I feel like it's like the end of the calendar year. We're gonna kick it off, you know, again for the season when it's the end of July, but


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[Assistant] We do got podcasts coming out, and we got one coming out Monday, okay? It'll ask me anything, alright, that I'm gonna do. So expect that next week for everybody out there, and we're gonna continue to put content out there with Chris Sims on Button and everything else, but hope everybody enjoyed the list.


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[Assistant] Everybody out there, be safe, I'll talk to you, it's summertime, have fun, and uh...


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[Assistant] Yo yo, what's up? Come on man, subscribe on YouTube to Chris Sims on Button Podcast. I need you, please hit the subscribe button, please!


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[Assistant] Yeah buddy, we're back. It's Friday and I got my homie here. It's Mike Floria. It feels funny for me to host because you're usually the host, but I'm taking over. Shut up, I'm not done yet. You gotta let me continue to flush this out.


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[Assistant] It's a joint collaboration! It's PFTPM and the Unbuttoned Podcast. We're gonna pick games, we're gonna have fun, okay? What do you wanna say? What do you wanna button and say? Snarky, with snarky comments.


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[Assistant] Is that what I do to you? No, you just start talking. Alright, no, in all seriousness, we didn't flush this out. What the f*** is shod? Rough shod.


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[Assistant] Okay, I've never heard of SHOD, so I just don't know what the hell that is in general. Alright, everybody, hope you're enjoying this.


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[Assistant] He was old enough. He's old enough to realize what the hell that is. Sorry, Marty. Uh, either way. Hey, we love you. Uh, we're going to pick games. We're going to go against the spread a little bit today. Uh, please rate, review my podcast.


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[Assistant] Uh, we are gonna pick all games, pick against the spreads. We're going with spreads that we saw from FanDuel, uh, as of Friday at 9 a.m., okay, just for everybody out there. We're gonna do that. First thing is, though, we gotta recap the game from last night.


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[Assistant] As long as they keep the name in there, the Soldier Field, I'm okay with that. Like you're right, it has to be a sponsor whistle, like Lambo. Lambo has got to be, you can't leave Lambo out of there.


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[Assistant] Let's roll, let's roll reversal. First of all, what was your big takeaway last night? You know, from the game, let's specifically start with the Packers offense and just what you thought after watching it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the game changed from that point on because then we started to realize, oh gosh, the Bears offense, it doesn't look good. They're going to have trouble moving the football. I mean, I'm with you too. I mean, we have no questions answered as far as


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[Assistant] That Packer offense, uh, it's still very early on in the process and it's hard to evaluate. And when, when guys don't play a lot in the preseason, Aaron Rodgers was not at his best last night. They didn't run block well.


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[Assistant] Uh, they didn't pass protect well, and let's not forget that bears defense is going to be one of the best in football. Chuck Pagano, I think, will silence a lot of people because people here in Chicago were scared about, you know, Vic Fangio and, oh, we lost him. Well, you can see you're in good hands with Chuck Pagano. He's a hell of a defensive coach, and his system is very similar to Vic Fangio in a lot of ways.


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[Assistant] Either way, but I'm still concerned about the Packers offense again.


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[Assistant] My big question about going into the season in general was Matt LaFleur proving he's worthy of the job and he didn't do anything to make me feel better about it last night. I mean the defense won that football game with just a few splash plays from Aaron Rodgers and I am still concerned with the offense in general.


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[Assistant] You're right. You know, Jimmy Graham doesn't have to be Gronk. I mean, he's still such a huge physical presence there. They just gotta find a role for him for where it really fits. Whether that's just he's a red zone target machine where you can throw jump balls up like we did see. Uh, so again, the Packers offense is,


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[Assistant] Is a work in progress and I certainly wasn't encouraged with what I saw last night. Alright, Bears offense, let's just hit on that too. Because we know we've been here for the last three or four days in Chicago. Everybody is really the only concern other than the kicker on the football team is Mitchell Trubisky.


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[Assistant] And I will argue, I understand. Mr. Zbyski is not perfect. And he's certainly got to improve as being a pocket passing quarterback. That's his biggest weakness. And as we watch playoff football every year, the quarterbacks who can throw from in the pocket are the ones that end up in the Super Bowl or in the AFC Championship game for the most part.


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[Assistant] He has an issue with that all together, but I'm not putting all the blame on him. I do think that Matt Nagy's offense, it does everything, but it does nothing good. And that to me is one issue that I have with the Bears offense.


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[Assistant] I think it's the whole offense that bothers me. It just, it feels that way. You know, I used to even have this little thing with like, you know, when I was in Tampa in the quarterback for, for John Gruden and you know, there would be times where


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[Assistant] You know, we'd get it done with practice and he'd be like, ehh, we ran 190 plays today in practice. And hey, that was cool, you know, how fast we could practice and do things like that.


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[Assistant] And is that a good thing that we screwed up 100 out of the 190 plays? I mean, so there, you know, again, I think the really good offensive football teams start somewhere at a base level. New England grows their offense and goes, we're going to be good at this.


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[Assistant] No, not even close, but we did see some good defensive play and I do want to give Mike Petten some credit because that, that Bear, I mean that Packers defensive game plan was phenomenal and you could see the additions of, uh, some of the draft picks and free agents they have have truly improved that defense to where they can do just about anything you want on the defensive side of the ball and they're going to be a pain in the butt, uh, like the Bears defense for whoever they play this year. Uhm, alright, you want to get into it? Let's get into it. Let's do it. Here we go. Like I said,


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[Assistant] All these lines are from FanDuel as of Friday, 9 a.m. Okay? And we're gonna start off with the 1 o'clock games. A big one. We're starting off with the homer, alright? Mr. Minnesota Viking himself. Stop it. Mike Florio, okay? We got Falcons at Vikings. Vikings favored by four at home. Who do you like, Mike Florio?


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[Assistant] I have a lot of the same feelings. Okay, so what's your score? Where are you going there?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I am always scared of the Falcons offense and their explosive ability. Because of Julio Jones, like you mentioned. Calvin Ridley, who I think is on the verge of superstardom at the wide receiver position. And then when Mohamed Sanu is your third guy, damn, that's dangerous. I think this is what concerns me more than anything. The Falcons O-line.


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[Assistant] Uh, didn't run the wall, run the ball well in the preseason and really was horrible in pass protection. That scares me. You go back and watch the Jets.


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[Assistant] Preseason matchup with the Falcons. You go back and watch the Falcons versus the Washington Redskins at preseason game number three. There was people all over Matt Ryan. And I think ultimately that's what's going to lead me to take the Vikings, okay? I'm taking them 23-20. So,


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[Assistant] I'm going with the under and I'm taking the Falcons against the spread here. I don't feel comfortable about that for all those out there. This is not be a game I would bet on, but I think your point about Kubiak running the football, Vikings being at home.


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[Assistant] Shoddy offensive line play by the Falcons in a loud environment. Everson Griffin back, Daniel Hunter, all of that. I just think the Vikings make a play or two more to win the football game.


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[Assistant] We really do. Uh, okay. All right. So there we go. We got that one. That's done. All right. Next game. Ravens at Dolphins. Okay. One o'clock game down in Miami. Gonna be hot. I'm sure. Ravens are favored by six and a half. Uh, over under at 38 and a half. Uhm, go ahead.


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[Assistant] A lot of question marks about the Miami Dolphins. Agreed. Uh, I mean, hey, there's the quarterback question marks. Uh, it's not a very talented roster. It's Chad O'Shea is a first time offensive coordinator.


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[Assistant] Uh, him orchestrating an offense against which will against what will be one of the best defenses in football. I can promise you that with the Baltimore Ravens. I think ultimately.


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[Assistant] I look at it like the Dolphins can maybe somewhat keep this close early on. I could see it maybe being 10-3 and then maybe 13-3 and then maybe, I don't know, let's say 16-6, something like that.


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[Assistant] But I just think the Ravens too big, too physical, uh, just a much more talented team with the Dolphins on the rebuild.


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[Assistant] I just have a hard time thinking that this Dolphins offense is gonna be able to put up points against.


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[Assistant] Uh, really one of the best defenses in football. Over and under at 38 and a half, so I'm under there and you were at 24-13, so you're under as well. I never expect the Ravens to put up huge numbers as far as points on the offensive side of the ball. I'm excited to see what they do in their run game though. I can definitely say that.


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[Assistant] You know, and I learned a little something from last night where I just said, ooh, on the games I was on the fence with, I'm going with the team that has the better quarterback. Or the other thing that got me a little bit is the team that maybe played their players just a little bit more because we saw that that was choppy last night. Alright, here's one of our favorite games of the one o'clock.


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[Assistant] I know we both love these two football teams. We got the Buffalo Bills at the New York Jets, okay. Jets favored by two and a half over under at forty and a half.


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[Assistant] I mean, this is secretly one of my favorite games because I love both quarterbacks. I think they're young, budding stars. I like both head coaches a lot. Uh, and I think there's, these are two teams that really improve themselves in the off season to be a threat in the AFC. Bills Jets, who you going?


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[Assistant] We're going Jets. Yep. Okay. This was a tough one for me. I do think this will be a close game regardless. Uh, I really do. And I like both of these teams. I'm going to go Bills with the upset here. Close one. I'm going Bills 20 to 17. I think the deciding factor for me more than anything is just looking back at last year.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Adam Gase was on the Dolphins at that time. Sean McDermott had a lot of success against that Dolphins offense. Uh, and I know that Gase is with the Jets here, has a better supporting cast here. But I just, I think the world of Sean McDermott and his ability to game plan and do the defense and do things on the defensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] To where I think that's what just gave me the edge there. I'm going jets, I mean, uh, bills in a close one, 2017. Uhm, and that's, that hits the under as well. So here we are, we are three games in and we've gone under all, all three with, uh, with our score output there. Alright, next one. This might be the cream of the crop at the one o'clock.


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[Assistant] Him, Nick Falls, Jaguars, Tyree Kill, Jaylen Ramsey, it's great on great. It's that Chiefs offense versus that great defense of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jaguars had the issues with Hurricane Dorian where it messed up their practice schedule during the week. That does scare me. Who are you going with, the Chiefs and Jaguars?


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[Assistant] Yeah, alright, uh, I'm leaning the same way. I'll say this. I think the Jaguars, their defense, uh, it certainly can match up with this, this Chiefs offense. My one thing I want to see from this Jaguars defense this year, and anybody who's ever listened to my podcast has heard me say this before,


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[Assistant] I worry about this system, this Seattle Seahawk system that is


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[Assistant] In every division in football right now. And there's just a Rolodex of plays to beat it.


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[Assistant] Against a guy like Andy Reid with the weapons he has and the master he's been first week of the season or coming off bye weeks. I mean, he's, he's the mad scientist as far as drawn up plays that we've never seen before and attacking defenses. So I'm with you. I think between that, the, the schedule mix up for the Jaguars because of the hurricane.


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[Assistant] And, like I said, better quarterback Mahomes. Mahomes played through the preseason. Foles only played in preseason game number three against the Dolphins. It was good, but it wasn't special. I just think there's a few questions still I have about that Jaguars defense. I just couldn't pick against the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] I'm going Chiefs. Where the hell am I here? Oh, 2417, uh, Kansas City Chiefs. What was your score? Let me find my final score here.


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[Assistant] Okay, so 31.20, so both of us are on the under again. You're very close there at 51.5, uh, but that's the under. I'm with you, Chiefs, all the way.


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[Assistant] I'm glad you brought that up, because uhm,


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[Assistant] I look at the, the Chiefs defense, that'll be one of the things I think we are going to be looking for early in the year. Steve Spagnola there, right? Uh, they've kind of changed their mantra as far as what they do. They've gone from kind of a 3-4 base to a 4-3 true team, got bigger up front.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think Leonard Fournette is going to have a big year ultimately. I do. I don't think Doug Marrone is going to let his team get away from the run game. Not going to let John DiPolipo get away from the run game like he did last year when he was the OC of Minnesota.


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[Assistant] I still am a believer in four net. Everything points to him having a big year. He's talked about getting some of the noise out of his life in the off season. He thinks that's going to help him out.


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[Assistant] It's getting towards contract time and he wants to get paid and he knows he's gonna have to perform.


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[Assistant] Here's another one of my favorites. Out of the one o'clock games, I would, I would have to say Chief's Jaguars, Rams, Panthers are my two favorite games of the one o'clock slate. Rams.


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[Assistant] Jared Goff signed. Todd Gurley, we haven't seen him. Is he 100% healthy? Cooper Cup coming off ACL injury. You know, McVeigh had the crack, the code crack last year. Uh, Panthers, I think a team with a major chip on their shoulder.


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[Assistant] I think it's a, a team that's talented. They were six and two last year and I, you know, injury happened to Cam Newton and it kinda all fell apart. I think this is a dangerous game for the Rams. Rams favored by two, which was the shocker.


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[Assistant] So money are betting on Panthers, right, right. Late smart money, betting Panthers. So, and the over under at 50 for everybody out there, but Rams going across country in that dreaded 1pm eastern start, 10am western time, uh, they call that Pacific. Uh, who do you like?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and he, and he made a bill. I'll go back to that Super Bowl. He made a lot of big plays. The rest of his team let him down too. I mean, they were allowed to block the Broncos defense a lot. I checked the rule book. They were allowed to do that.


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[Assistant] The cleats were like they weren't even the ground. He just slid. You're right. It looked like that. Uhm, so I think Cam Noon gets a little unfairly criticized for that Super Bowl form. It's through a degree. I think there's some people there that let him down. Alright, so you're going Panthers. What was your score you took? 23-17. 23-17. I'm going Panthers as well. Uh, I think the Panthers...


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[Assistant] Uh, I've said this a lot, have about as much talent as we've seen on the offensive side of the ball in the Cam Newton era. Curtis Samuel, DJ Moore, McCaffrey, let's not forget Greg Olson's there. Even their backup tight end Ian Thomas showed promise last year. O-line, I think, is set up. And I'm a, I think,


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[Assistant] The zone defense, a little bit what the Panthers do on the defensive side of the ball. A guy like, you know, that Steve Wilkes, Ron Rivera scheme, all of that.


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[Assistant] What, it's a little similar to like what Vic Banjo did, did slow down the Bear, uh, to the Rams last year in Chicago. Or a little bit like what New England did to the Rams in the Super Bowl. They play some coverages that I don't think necessarily are great.


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[Assistant] This is the bed of the day, right here. I really did. The fact that the Panthers are getting two points at home and I think are a legit


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[Assistant] Playoff football team this year. I like the Panthers and of course with the Rams going across the country and playing that weird time zone thing. Uh, I don't think that plays in their favor either. Alright, we see it. So, we have been


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[Assistant] We have picked, other than Bills and Jets, I think we're, we're, we're all same here for the most part, uh, through all our picks. Titans Brown's the next game. You done texting over there? Are you ready to like pay attention? Okay. I'm listening to you. Okay, good. Thanks. Just want to make sure. Uhm, Titans Brown.


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[Assistant] That guy called you up. Titans Browns, okay? Uhm.


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[Assistant] I'm going close as well. Okay, I think this is what I look at. I do think the Titans defense.


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[Assistant] Creative, Dean Pease bein' there, Mike Vrabel, you know, they're gonna have some things up their sleeve as far as tricky coverages, way to take Odell Beckham Jr. away, maybe in some obvious third down situations, all those kind of things. Uh, so I do worry about that. The Browns are home.


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[Assistant] Okay, of course that's a great advantage. I think the fact that we haven't really seen Odell and Jarvis out there together.


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[Assistant] I do think this Brown's defensive line is real. And I've been a little scared about the way the Titan's O line has looked too. Uh, so I, I'm, I'm with you and I think the Titans are scary. But I just think...


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[Assistant] The Browns are a little too talented. I'm gonna take the Browns in this one, uh, 2320. Browns are favored by five and a half, so.


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[Assistant] You're trying to have both ways. Yeah, I always just pick the scores without looking at the over under and then I just go from there. And, uh, yeah, I can't imagine them blowing this football team out. I don't see that either. I think the pressure on them is real, but since they're home, their pass rush, a few more explosive players on offense, I'm gonna say they find a way to win this football game.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't, yes, I think we've talked about the games that we've bet here. So far, the 1 o'clock games, I think the obvious ones we both like are the Ravens of the Dolphins covering.


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[Assistant] And then we both like the Panthers or the Rams. I think those are the two that are going to jump out, uh, to, to people out there if you are looking to take bets and, hey, I'm not the best bettor in the world. Just try to listen to some of my football stuff and hopefully that can steer you in the right direction.


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[Assistant] Right, good way to put it. Alright, Redskins Eagles.


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[Assistant] Carson Wentz, back in the fold, Case Keenum, Redskins, no Trent Williams, oh geez, that's great not to have Trent Williams against the Eagles who only have like eight great defense alignment to throw at you. He reportedly is in town. Right, I heard that. I don't think so either.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I can understand that. That's a lot of money. Okay. How do you see this one unfolding?


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[Assistant] I really do. So, Eagles are favored by 10. Over, under 45. What's your score?


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay, I'm taking the Eagles all the way here too. Uh, I think what scares me a little bit, and just to throw out my score right off the bat, I'm going 21-10.


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[Assistant] Eagles here in this situation. And I had no idea the spread was 10, so I got the Eagles covering. But I think this is what scares me from being a little bit more of a blowout is the fact that Carson Wentz hasn't played in the preseason. You know, just like we saw last night. I don't care who you are. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady. I mean, Tom Brady plays in the preseason a little bit, and he's got more experience than anybody.


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[Assistant] I don't care who you are, you know, you can't just, you can't disrespect the game and think you're just not going to play in the preseason and come out week one and be like, oh, I'm at my best. I'm just going to, you know, destroy everybody with my arm and be awesome that way. I have a hard time believing that, but I just think that this Eagles defense is real.


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[Assistant] I think they're secondary being healthy. They got waves of pass rushers to send at this Redskins offense. Uhm, the Redskins, right?


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[Assistant] Who, who's gonna make plays on the offensive side of the ball? Hey, I like Darius, guys. I like Adrian Peterson, but I'm not sitting here ready to go, oh, they're game changers. Jordan Reed, do we know the status of him yet? He's in concussion protocol, right?


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[Assistant] So that would be, yes, he will certainly not like that. Uh, but I just worry about the Eagles being a little sloppy because their offense hasn't been out there. I think they win the game clearly, but like I said, 21-10. Hey, I think the Eagles are a dangerous football team and of course I got them going to the Super Bowl and they're at home. Uh, I think they win this football game. I want to mention one rule.


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[Assistant] I'm glad you brought this up because I wanted to bring this up in general, so I'm glad we're stopping for a second on the Redskins defense. The Redskins defense, I do think...


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[Assistant] Is gonna be a pain in the butt for some people. First off, I'm a Greg Manuski fan. He knows this.


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[Assistant] Uh, Doug Peterson offense. Menusky's genius to me has always been he can play, he plays zone coverages and he's really good at finding your tendencies and dropping people into the areas where you're trying.


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[Assistant] To execute your offense, your bunch packages, your three receivers to the left. He's really good at dropping people to where the quarterback's looking to throw and going, whoa, this guy's been open the last like five weeks in a row. And now there's four guys in that area and it looks totally different. I got to move on. But your point about the defensive line and Montez Sweat, you think about that defensive line with the Redskins.


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[Assistant] You know, Jason Peters, he hasn't done anything in the preseason. You go Montez Sweat, Daron Payne, Jonathan Allen, and then Kerrigan on the other side? That's another good reason I think this game could be a little ugly for the Eagles, and that's why I don't say they just totally blow them out of the water. Alright.


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[Assistant] For my buddies at Roto World, okay? Josh Norris, John Daigle, all the starts sits for week one. I mean, these guys are all over fantasy football. I learned something, not only about football, but how they orchestrate their thoughts and everything they do around the fantasy world. Uh, these guys are good football minds.


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[Assistant] They understand how to start, sit, orchestrate rosters for fantasy football. Sunday at 12 p.m., they're doing a live stream show on Rotor World and NBCSports.com. Man.


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[Assistant] Here's what you do. Erase my number, watch Roto World on the livestream, and stop bothering me because I have other things to worry about. Wait, you want your friends to take your number out of their phone? Well, whatever. I'm Sunday morning, I do. Yeah, I'm sick of it. But you just don't respond to them. I know, I don't, but then they get mad at that. Put them on the pay no mind button. The pay no mind button? Is there really a button?


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[Assistant] Alright, we got four o'clock games, got a pretty good slate, five games at four o'clock, and then we'll get into Sunday Night Football and the two Monday Night Football games. First one, Bengals at Seahawks. So many questions here. Okay, Seahawks favored by nine and a half over, over under at 44.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't have a lot of faith in the Bengals at this point, so another one where I gotta see it to believe it a little bit.


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[Assistant] This is the worst game. I mean, I had to open up a year in Seattle as a backup one year and I mean that's, it's about as tough of a place to open up your season as there is in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Well, I-I'm scared too. I understand what you're saying, okay? Uhm, yeah, go ahead.


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[Assistant] Seahawks at home, clearly the better football team. Have the best quarterback on the field. Have the best head coach on the field.


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[Assistant] I like you. I'm going Seahawks. There's no doubt about that. I'm going 24 13. I'll just say this. This is if I had to throw out something that scares me just a little bit. Okay. Just a little. Zach Taylor.


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[Assistant] He just came from the Rams where they saw the Seahawks twice a year. So there's a little comfort level there. And I, when I say scare me, I mean, not scare me to win the game, but maybe scare me just to keep the game a little closer than I would think. Okay. I'm just trying to give a little bit of both sides. Zach Taylor coming from LA. Okay. The other thing is the Cincinnati Bengals defense does have a little talent.


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[Assistant] And, you know, David Moore, he wasn't out there, uh, you know, he had some issues in the preseason. DK Metcalf is just getting healthy. They expect him to be 100% ready to go. I know he made that statement yesterday. I am pumped to watch him. And we know the Seahawks are going to be able to run the football. But I will just say this at the very least. Drake Kirkpatrick.


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[Assistant] William Jackson, you know, uh, the Bates kid at safety. And then you talk about the defensive line and Geno Atkins and Carlos Dunlap and company.


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[Assistant] I just think they can be a pain in the butt a little bit for the Seahawks to wear. Yeah, it's 24-13 or 27-6 like you're saying, but I can see them maybe staying a little closer a while before the Seahawks pull away. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Okay. Colt's Chargers. The Jacobi Berset game. Under pressure.


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[Assistant] No, maybe you shouldn't. I can't do it. I've been talking too much this week. I have no high note right now. Colt's at Chargers. We're all going to be looking at Jacoby Percet. Chargers, six and a half point favorites without their home field advantage that they do not have. That does not exist there. Over and under at 44 and a half.


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[Assistant] This is a game I'm gonna be certainly keeping an eye on. I really am. I mean these are two teams that were in the playoffs last year. I think a lot of people are picking them to be in the playoffs again this year. I am one that's not picking the Chargers to go back to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Because Andrew Luck's not there, I'm not picking the Colts to go to the playoffs either. I still think these are going to be good teams and competitive and in the conversation, but ultimately I don't think they get there. How do you see it playing out? Mike Florio.


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[Assistant] I hear you there. I will be shocked, okay, if the Chargers win this game by more than six and a half points. I will say that. I really would.


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[Assistant] I'm actually shocked you took the Chargers. You know, I thought you were going to play the whole, you know, we're more than Andrew. They got to prove it to them. They're going to, they're going to unify for this week and with a little chip on their shoulder and show everybody, Hey, we're better. We're more than just one player. I heard T. Y. Hilton kind of make a comment like that during the week as well. Prove it.


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[Assistant] And Philip Rivers has not played. And Melbourne Gordon, even though they have good running backs there, he is a dangerous running back. Russell Okung not there. Yeaah. That plays a little factor in my decision. Derwin James?


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[Assistant] I mean, one of the two or three best safeties in all in football.


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[Assistant] And a safety position that is vital to the Seattle scheme, which Gus Bradley runs because he came from Seattle and now he's the defensive coordinator there. Derwin James was their camp chancellor. And that worries me.


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[Assistant] I'm going with the Colts here, Michael Florio. I'm going Colts 28-24 because they're just going to have the chip on their shoulder and I have the ultimate confidence in a guy like Frank Reich to kind of game plan.


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[Assistant] And, you know, come up with something special, again, against a defensive scheme that is pretty predictable. And there's not a lot of variations in what the Chargers do. I'm hoping we see a little bit more from them last year, because as you see them, when they played an offense that was balanced, like the Patriots in the playoffs, it absolutely shredded them apart.


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[Assistant] I'm going Colts 28-24, that's the over, and that's of course the Colts, uh, the Colts covering the spread, which, you know, we differ there. I think that's one of the better bets in the afternoon of the 4 o'clock games. Alright.


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[Assistant] I know you love this game. Lions at Cardinals. Lions favored by two and a half. Cliff Kingsbury. Kyler Murray.


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[Assistant] The Cardinals, I don't know what the hell they're gonna be. Uh, the Lions are a team that we're looking to be, make an improvement. Matthew Stafford, I look like at least in preseason game number three and I'm hoping because he's got talent and he's not, he's no idiot, he's a smart guy, has made the adjustment to that culture change there. Uh, how do you feel?


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[Assistant] I mean, I see it at 46 and a half right now, and I go, that's too much to this game. Uh, score, you got yours there? Score, I, I... Well, that's alright, find it, I'll talk for a second.


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[Assistant] I have no idea what the Arizona offense is going to be. I really don't. Arizona's roster in general, I think, is one of the lesser ones in all of football. Okay? Scrambling quarterbacks against guys like Matt Patricia, who come from Bill Belichick and all that.


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[Assistant] He's gonna have a game plan to not let Kyler Murray run all over the place. Okay? Uh, I look at that. I look at lack of weapons.


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[Assistant] Other than David Johnson around Kyler Murray, and I know people are gonna go, whoa, well they still have Larry Fitzgerald. Yes, Larry Fitzgerald is a Hall of Famer first ballot, we know that. But at right now, nobody's like, dictating their defensive game plan around Larry Fitzgerald. So, I have that issue, and then I look at the other side of the ball, and


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[Assistant] You know, Darryl Bevel, I think that offensive line in Detroit's a little bit better than people realize. Karrion Johnson's a studded running back.


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[Assistant] You go Marvin Jones, Galladay, and I'm expecting Stafford to make a little improvement with his team. I'm going Lions 23-16. Kinda ugly, where I think they're in control of the game the whole time, but they never really like totally put them away, and they let Arizona kinda hang around.


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[Assistant] Okay, yep, and I, uh, I have the under at 39 total points, but I do like the Lions and you like the Lions big time there all the way. Alright, now we move on to Eli versus Dak Prescott.


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[Assistant] Zeke is back. Giants at Cowboys. Uh, this is the big 425 game on Fox. Troy Aikman will be there. And Zeke's back. We know that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm with you there. The perception is that the Giants are just gonna fall off earth this year and I don't see it that way. I'm a fan of Pat Schirmer and what he does on the offensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] You've heard me say it a million times over the last two weeks. I do think the Giants up front on both sides of the ball are a much improved football team. They are not going to get bullied by this Cowboys team. The Giants defensive line is as big as any defensive line in football.


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[Assistant] That's gonna pose some problems, and I do think the Giants O-Line has been good. And Pat Schirmer's an ex- you know, he's an ex-O-Lieman himself.


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[Assistant] So, they're well coached, they have a good scheme, Saquon's gonna be out there, he'll be full go, Zeke is gonna be I think on a limited basis, I hope they don't run him into the ground, I would stay away from this too. I think this game somewhat stays close, I'm going 20-16 Cowboys, so that's the under and the Giants covering, uh,


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[Assistant] I agree. Don't, don't, don't rush this situation. I mean, Jerry Jones said it when he was trying to hold strong in his bargaining. I'm worried about having a healthy, full-go Zeke when it comes close to playoff time. And let's not forget that now that he's just been paid money and he's back in the fold. Alright, next game we got.


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[Assistant] My man Kyle Shanann going down to my ex-team, the team that, you know, I always feel a special place in my heart, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I mean, storylines are kind of cool in this game.


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[Assistant] Shanahan, Lynch, year three, Garoppolo, more pressure than maybe any quarterback in football.


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[Assistant] 49ers did a great job in the offseason as far as improving their team, getting some weapons around Garoppolo with draft picks at receiver. Their defense was good and only got better with guys like D4 to Nick Boza. We're gonna see how healthy they are. That's kind of a question there. Uh, Quan Alexander from Tampa making a start against his old team, right?


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[Assistant] Interesting game. I think this is going to be a fun game. I think this might be one of the more exciting one o'clock football games. 49ers, or 404, is it 405? Sorry. But either way, 49ers going across country, playing the Bucs. And one thing I'll say where the Bucs have an advantage here, playing in Tampa Bay in early September, oh shit is it hot.


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[Assistant] I mean, the ball is going to be wet because your center is going to have swamp ass. Yes. And it's going to be like throwing a watermelon on someplace. And that can lead to some crazy throws. And I'm going to, Jamis Winston is going to be more used to it than Jimmy Garoppolo. I think this would be a fun game. How do you kind of see it playing out bucks favored by one over and under at 51?


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[Assistant] I mean, two master game planners. We may be on a marketing idea. The swamp-ass football? The swamp-ass football. The non-swamp-ass football? You're saying something that... We could just make a football and call it the swamp-ass football. Okay, I never had to practice the wet ball drill. I know that when I was in Tampa. I mean...


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[Assistant] To realistic football. To realistic analysis. But, uh, I'm, I think this is the big thing. I don't trust Jamie Garoppolo. That's ultimately, I'm picking the bucks to win this game 31 to 28. I don't feel comfortable about this. I think if I felt comfortable about anything, I would feel comfortable about the over in this game. Uhm, another issue to look at, okay.


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[Assistant] Todd Bowles, he's there. Okay, it's a different defense there in Tampa Bay. I do think the defense is gonna be, uh, better, uh, and, and maybe better than we all realize in Tampa Bay. I think there's some young talent. Vita Villa, him being able to play Monday, or Sunday, Sunday afternoon.


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[Assistant] That, that is a little bit of a factor. I mean, come on. We know Shanahan. That, that 49ers offensive line is pretty damn good. Having a guy like Vita Villa who can make a mosh pit in the, in the middle of the offensive line is a big thing to me in the matchup overall. But I think when it's all said and done,


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[Assistant] I don't trust Jimmy Garoppolo right yet. I kinda gotta see it to believe it. Uh, and I am gonna take the bucks at home with a new regime.


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[Assistant] You know, and just maybe a few more proven commodities than a guy like Mike Evans and company, uh, as far as on the offensive side of the ball in Jameis, who I can't believe I'm saying it, I trust him a hair more in this matchup than I do Jimmy Garoppolo. The thing that scares me more than anything about this game and why I would say don't bet as far as the spread's concerned here,


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[Assistant] My buddy Kyle Shanahan is one of the great game planners I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] And he can crack the code as good as anybody as I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I worry about that aspect, but the other thing that I also worry about with the 49ers is, hey, they got some young, unproven guys that they're depending on. Dante Pettis has not been great this preseason. Shanahan's been ridin' them hard. Deebo Samuel's showin' some great stuff, but he's still a rookie. You know, Jalen Hurt.


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[Assistant] Kittle is really the only guy we can look at along with Matt Barita to go, ooh, they're some consistent playmakers on the offense. So yeaah, ultimately I'm taking the buck, but that was a tough one for me to call.


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[Assistant] You're right, this is just a first world problem as we're talking about. But yeaah, it is hard to watch all the four o'clock games because we're getting ready to do our, our show on Sunday Night Football, the pregame show, and uh, yeaah.


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[Assistant] None, it did not exist, okay? Taking the garbage out for mom and dad, okay? There you go, okay? You freakin' asshole.


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[Assistant] Here we go. Uh, okay. Only not Steve Young now. Please, he already knows. He's already all over it. Okay, let's get to Sunday Night Football. I mean, this is, I'm pumped for this game.


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[Assistant] Because I do think the Steelers have a chip on their shoulder, not only because they've been beaten down by the Patriots so many times up in New England, but the Antonio Brown, no Leveon Bell, I think a lot of people are counting the Steelers out.


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[Assistant] I think the Steelers are still one of the better teams and rosters in all of football. Do we got to see who that next weapon is going to be behind Juju Smith Schuster? Yes.


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[Assistant] Ben Roethlisberger's pretty damn good still. I think they'll find a way, plus they have a good offensive line.


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[Assistant] They're unveiling the banner in New England. We talked about that a little earlier on PFT. Uhm, who you gonna go with? Uh, so I just tell everybody here, Patriots favored by five and a half. Five and a half.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I-I-I listen, it's almost impossible to pick against the Patriots, ever. Uh, just come on, they're the Patriots and they're on another level from the rest of the NFL, but...


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[Assistant] To your point, if there's ever a week of the year where they're not completely the Patriots, it is week one.


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[Assistant] Because their greatness is their ability to break teams down schematically. And when they get two, three, four games of film to watch, that's when their level of preparation and detail and schematics go to another level. Uh, and games like this, of course it's week one, there's a lot of unknowns.


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[Assistant] I think the Steelers, and I expect the Patriots to play with a style that we saw last year, you know, because of the things you mentioned, the receivers, no Gronk, you know, the passing game I think is probably still a little bit of a work in progress, even though I still think it's going to be good, I still think they're going to be a run-first football team with the way they built it, this offensive line,


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[Assistant] Yeah, no David Andrews, but Ted Karras is a pretty good film and they'll be okay with that. I mean, as far as they're just not gonna fall apart.


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[Assistant] But I think that, I think the Steelers are on a mission. I think the fact that I believe the Packers will, I mean the Packers, the Patriots will be a little bit more of that downhill run first team. I think it plays into the Steelers hands. And I do think the Steelers are better on the back end than they've ever been.


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[Assistant] You know, in this Brady Patriots versus Steelers era, and they're healthy up front. Devin Bush has been a lightning rod for that defense in the middle. I don't think they realized how much they missed Ryan Shazer until last year. And that was a big regret.


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[Assistant] They have. And he was phenomenal. And he looked phenomenal the day I was there, practice hanging around too. I'm going Steelers on the Upset. I am. I just think if there's ever a time the Patriots gonna get upset, it's week one.


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[Assistant] We know on every third down, every big passing situation, they're gonna take away Julius Smith Schuster. Yep. And who is gonna be that other guy? Who is it gonna be? I don't know. I say it's Vance McDonald.


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[Assistant] I think it'll be Dante Moncrief at least early on. I think James Washington could maybe r- develop into that role. Uh, I do like Dante Johnson and I liked what he looked like coming out of college, but I think Moncrief got good size, can catch 50-50 balls, got pretty good speed, can do a little bit of everything. I think he'll be the second guy. So there we go, Sunday Night Football. Hey.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Sunday Night Football, please tune in first off. Me and Mike Florio will be on the pregame show.


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[Assistant] There's a cool thing we got going on, uh, on Sunday nights. The Sunday night seven, okay? There's an all new Sunday night seven game on NBC Sports Predictor. It's free and easy to play.


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[Assistant] You just make seven simple predictions about what will happen in Sunday Night Football, Steelers vs. Pats, for your chance at $2 million guaranteed cash prizes this season. $100,000 up for grabs in each contest, each contest. We kind of ran through it a little bit on PFT.


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[Assistant] It is cool. I wish we could actually get involved. I'd love to take 2 million dollars from NBC. That'd be really great. You'd have to win it every week. You'd have to win it. 100,000. I'll take that too. Fine.


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[Assistant] I think that's worth doing. People should get involved in that. It's gonna be things like more passing yards.


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[Assistant] Big Ben or Brady. More receiving yards. Juju or Edelman. But the Sunday night seven. Pretty cool thing. Pay attention to that. Please participate. Uh, it's a chance to win some easy, easy money. Uh, just predict, predicting a few things about football. And then tune in.


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[Assistant] Cause, uh, you and me will be on there having some fun. We got off to a pretty good start. We got a great group with Dungy, uh, Rodney, Mike Tirico, you, me, Liam. It's, uh, I had a lot of fun.


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[Assistant] Something in football last night was a dream come true for me. I really, I was like, I almost teared up when they sang the national anthem last night and we were there.


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[Assistant] My goal in life was to always win a Super Bowl. That's not gonna happen. I didn't care if I wanted holding a clipboard or cleaning cleats or whatever. That was my goal in life since I was a young kid. Not gonna happen, but to be a part of like the first game of the 100th season and be on TV for it and get to talk football, that was damn special to me.


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[Assistant] The Billy O'Brien Texans. Okay. And ooh, gosh, the dysfunction that went on there this week with the trade at the New Orleans Saints, NFC championship game, no call hangover. Saints favored by six and a half over under at 52 and a half. Who are you liking this one?


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[Assistant] He is. I almost picked him in the draft. Uhm, you think they keep it close? Are you picking like a Saints?


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[Assistant] Well, week one is, I mean, again, anybody gambling, I mean, it's week one and we haven't seen a lot of these guys play. There's going to be some ugly football, which can lead to ugly mistakes and, you know, some games not falling the way maybe we predict or any of us out there perceive it to be.


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[Assistant] The Texans are used to being the bullies on the football field.


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[Assistant] They, that's what they are. Billy O'Brien, Romeo Cornell on the defensive side, it was Jadevion Clowney, DJ Reader, JJ Watt, Whitney Merciless, we're just gonna overpower you. And then, you know, on the offensive side of the ball, they do like to run it. I mean, they do. Lamar Miller had a pretty damn good year last year. Oh, he's not there.


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[Assistant] The pass game, it's always around DeAndre Hopkins.


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[Assistant] I, I would think he would have been too. No, I mean, I, you know, I don't have faith in him, you know, and I, I guess it'll be him, Duke Johnson, sharing the work load there, uh, but I have major concern, Lamar Miller's a very good running back, and he is capable of ripping off 30 and 40 yard runs, he's got special speed.


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[Assistant] I think it was last year, I think it was against the Dolphins, or I can't remember, I think it was the Dolphins Thursday night game last year. But, I think...


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[Assistant] With the things you're saying, some of the things that have gone on with the Texans, Sean Payton, realizing they haven't got off to the greatest starts the last few years.


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[Assistant] Uh, them going to realize in their week of preparation that man, Deshaun Watson just stares at DeAndre Hopkins and he waits for him to come open and even when he's not open he still might throw it to him. And I don't think the Texans are as good as last year.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm with you. I'm going Saints 27-17. You're a 10 point win, right? Yeah, I'm going 10-2. I think it's like Saints 20-17 and they pull away late for a last touchdown and put the game away with like 4 or 5 minutes left and the game's over. That's kinda how I envision it, but I like the Saints all the way in that way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so we'll have the, the A team on Texas and Saints, and then I know my man Brian Greasy, my ex-teammate. He will be doing the second Monday Night Football game out with the Oakland Raiders, uh, Broncos at Raiders.


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[Assistant] Boomin'. You gotta go boomin'. I like that. Right. You're creative. 23-13. 23-13. Alright. Ugly game. Uhm.


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[Assistant] I don't know if there's a ton of weapons around Joe Flacco in the past game either. I do like that he's in the system, the Shanahan type system, uh, with, uh, Rich Skangrello coming over, coming over from San Francisco as the new OC.


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[Assistant] But I think ultimately, Vic Fangio's defense is going to give this Raiders offense a lot of problems. I really do. I mean, first off,


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[Assistant] You know, I worry about the Raiders-O line still, even though they made some improvements there, definitely, but this is a special D line, and maybe the best pass rushing tandem at all, football, with Vaughn Chubb, Vaughn Miller and Bradley Chubb.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I think that with Vic Vangio's game planning, uh, who's had pretty good success against John Gruden's offenses.


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[Assistant] I think the Broncos are going to pull out an ugly one here where it's like 1916. It might be just a late drive in the game by Joe Flacco to win the football game, something like that. I don't have a lot of faith in the Broncos offense either, but I think in this kind of game, their defense might be able to set them up for some points. They're going to sack strip fumbles type of thing.


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[Assistant] I was on the team in 2005. We were a playoff football team. I'm just gonna tell you, we weren't that great. We weren't that special. But we got off to a good start in the season and we believed in ourselves. And then we started to find a little formula that worked for the team.


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[Assistant] And you know, you can tinker with them things when you get off to a good start and you got a good record. You know, you got almost a little flexibility there, but it gave us a false sense of confidence. And then we...


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[Assistant] So there you have it. Uh, and did I say that the Broncos are favored by two and a half? I'm not even sure I said that.


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[Assistant] I guess that's, mm, no. I'm gonna say that. That's what should happen. It won't happen. John Gruden's gonna win this war with Mike Mayock, and he's gonna realize, I stood on the table with this guy, I wanna get my year two of my, my era, uh, my second era here in Oakland off to a good start. I think he's gonna give,


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[Assistant] Antonio is 48th get out of jail free card here and go, if you get one more strike, which are probably be four more strikes again, just so everybody out there knows we have only heard about the things that have been made public. I am aware that a lot of craftsmen going on since he got there.


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[Assistant] It's a shit show. It's one thing after another. But I think Jon Grun is gonna bow to the player here because he knows how damn good he is and he wanted him so badly that they're gonna give him one more shot.


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[Assistant] Then it basically becomes what you're saying. Then it becomes week to week. Because he's on the roster. Yep. Week one. Yep. Yeah. Okay. I could see that happen. I don't know if they'll do that. Uh, I'm really, really interested to see what happens here because I would think Mike Mayock behind closed doors is going, we need to suspend him if we want the rest of our time here in Oakland to go the right way.


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[Assistant] All because of Antonio Brown. Listen, I've never heard of a story of a player who broke numerous team rules.


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[Assistant] Threatening the GM by punching him in the face in the middle of the rest of the team. That's like, that's beyond TO.


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[Assistant] The last year and a half I think has gone to another level with not only antics on the field and the sidelines, but we're seeing it spill over to off the field too. And that's where it gets scary to me, him not paying people money, the balcony throwing money, throwing furniture off of, right, whatever.


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[Assistant] Right. So I don't know either. I am a little concerned about the guy altogether. Hell of a football player, I am concerned. Alright, got one more last read to do because this is a good one. Peter King podcast, alright.


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[Assistant] The mini-pod, okay? That'll drop every mo-monday morning. It kind of highlights the best of Peter's FMIA column, Football Morning in America. I tried to say that smoothly. It didn't work it. But you can get a little brief summary from that mini-pod. And this is the- this is what you gotta check out. Because you and I have seen this a little bit.


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[Assistant] You gotta go to YouTube and search for Patrick Mahomes and Brett Favre having a catch.


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[Assistant] Awesome feature set up all by Peter King, getting Patrick Mahomes, Brett Farb together. He interviews them, why they're having a catch in the indoor facility of the Kansas City Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes has stated many times that was his idol growing up. It's really funny.


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[Assistant] They talk and kind of wax poetically about each other, but that's certainly worth the watch. Check that out. Peter King's the man that way. Alright, that's it. We're done.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, I got you all flustered before, I didn't mean to do it, I was just having fun. Can I give you the finger during this? Yea, please, here, there you go, right there, boom, boom. You just gave your audience the finger. Yea, well yea, I was just making sure they saw I was the correct finger. It was really towards you. You the man. Hey, it was fun. I had a fun week. It was fun. Uhm, I'm gonna punch you on Monday morning's show.


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[Assistant] Uh, but subscribe, rate, review. If you write some reviews on there, there's a good chance I'm gonna read your questions and talk about it on the podcast. Monday with Ahmed Fareed, I will be recapping all of Sunday's stuff. Next week I get to my three week, or three podcast a week thing. Monday will be recap, Wednesday will be my deep dive film notes.


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[Assistant] Yo yo, what's up? C'mon man, subscribe on YouTube to Chris Simms Unbuttoned Podcast. I need you, please hit the subscribe button, please!


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[Assistant] I don't know, I mean, hey, I hung out with Tony Romo-Lim, it's two birdies on two holes, hung out with Aaron Rodgers, an eagle on one hole, a birdie on another, just saying, I don't know.


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[Assistant] You're making peanuts compared to me, Sims. The hell with that job. Uh, but he is so awesome to be around. I always have fun with him. It's probably the third time I've seen him over the last two years where I always say that line to him. So I know I can say it. He understands I'm joking. He's got a great way about him. And, uh, he's still in my football thoughts. I mean, just as I always expected.


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[Assistant] You're right. Well, that's the cool thing about, uh, Tony Romo is he's not like guessing the plays to go like, oh, I want to look smarter than everybody else. He is...


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[Assistant] Uh, a real football fan loves it, lives it, and I think it's just like literally just kind of like throw up with the mouth. He can't help it. He's sitting there with a mic in his mouth and he's watching a team and he's studied it all week and he's just gonna go. And he's right. And he's right a lot. Exactly right. And uh, I enjoy watching him announce football games because of it.


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[Assistant] But uhm, it's good. It's good to be back and gonna get around to a few training camps here in the next few weeks too to talk to some players and join Peter King a little bit. So I'm excited for that. Nice.


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[Assistant] Which I was all for for training in Mexico. I don't know if I feel good about training in Cabo. There's a lot of other things that can pull your attention in that area.


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[Assistant] No, it's not. But he did this last year when he got suspended two years ago for the six games. Uh, I trust that- And this all began with Tony Romo, by the way.


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[Assistant] But I don't know where this goes. First off, I'll say this. Zeke Elliott, he shouldn't buckle for one second, okay? You know, and I know people just say, oh, well, you know, the first thing I'll say is they just signed Alfred Morris, right? And people go, oh, that's insurance. Alfred Morris is perfect. He's the perfect example of why Zeke Elliott should be holding out.


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[Assistant] Alfred Morris got drafted in the sixth round by the Washington Redskins. His first year in the NFL, he was second in the NFL in rushing. His second year in the NFL, he was in top five. Third year, he was in the top five too. You know what, it came time to get a new contract and everybody said, nah.


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[Assistant] You've kind of been beaten up a lot already. We're not going to do that. So here's the perfect example for Ezekiel Elliott, who's been the ultimate workhorse


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[Assistant] For, you know, two out of the first three years of his career, really all three years, except he had that six game suspension. You know, led the NFL in rushing attempts last year. It was led the NFL in rushing yards two out of the first three years. The teams built around the running back. So, uh, there is no way in hell he should come back.


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[Assistant] And play one second until he gets a contract that's north of Todd Gurley.


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[Assistant] NFL rushing. See you later. We think you're a little worn out. And yeaah, so he's gotta protect his best interests.


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[Assistant] But this team is not built like that. No, exactly. That's the point. That is the point. The team is built to run the football.


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[Assistant] Yes, probably. I do. I mean, again. Does he miss any time? I don't think he will. I think that...


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[Assistant] Hill Train, as they get deeper and deeper into preseason and training camp, they're going to start to get more uncomfortable. Ooh, what is our final product going to look like?


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[Assistant] They're gonna start to realize when they watch film of preseason games and even scrimmages in practice that


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[Assistant] Gosh, there was, you know, gosh, here was five yards, our running back got five yards, but gosh, if it was Ezekiel, running the ball, it probably would have been 15 yards. He would have ran through that tackle. It's going to be little things like that, that it will accumulate to where the Jones family is finally going to get an ANSI and go, you know what? We're going to give you a better contract than Todd Gurley. And let's not forget too.


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[Assistant] Todd Gurley, we know what the cowboys are scared of. They're scared of the Todd Gurley situation. And you just said he was a car crash running back. Right.


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[Assistant] He does not have an injury history. And that's where I give him, Todd Gurley came into the NFL as banged up goods. And they knew that and they took the risk of drafting him there. This, there's no issue like that with Ezekiel Elliott right now. So he can say, no, my, I'm there every time you need me, every play, I'm always there, ready to be the workhorse. Eventually I think it gets held up, gets figured out.


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[Assistant] This is a Chargers team that, okay yeaah, there's some depth at the running back position, but they've shown they don't need the run game to win football games. They can win.


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[Assistant] With the pass game, Philip Rivers, they're creative in their pass game. They have a ton of wide receivers. One of the best wide receiver corps in all of football.


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[Assistant] Uh, so yes, he does not have that leverage. It's not, it's just not the style of football in which they played. Added into the fact that Melvin Gordon has a real knee issue. It's every bit as bad as Todd Gurley, if not worse.


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[Assistant] It's bone on bone. He is a guy that, you know, might need a microfracture surgery at some point in his life here. So they don't want to commit long-term injuries. They've already seen that they've had to manage Melvin Gordon.


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[Assistant] The last two years in practice and games and things like that because of the knee. So now they don't want to go, oh yeah, here's $30 million guaranteed and we just hope the knee holds up. No, I understand where they're coming from. I'm always for the player getting paid, but I just don't think he has very much leverage in this situation.


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[Assistant] You know, let's say Leveon Bell. Barclay. Saquon Barclay, exactly right. They're in their own little class. But then, then there's the Melvin Gordon class.


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[Assistant] Hey, he's trying to protect himself because he probably understands his knee is, you know, falling apart to a degree. But Philip Rivers made the comments, which people I thought, first of all, were a little too critical of Philip Rivers' comments. I mean, all he said was is a deep position and we're going to go with what we got. Did you guys want him to say like,


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[Assistant] We suck at this position, and we're not gonna go with what we got. We're just, we're gonna quit right now, and we're not gonna practice anymore until Melvin gets here. I mean, what the f-


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[Assistant] No doubt about it. He's just trying to put a positive spin on it. We can still win if he's not here, but we certainly are better without him. Hey, Austin Eckler certainly showed he's capable of being a guy. And a guy we talked about before the pod began, Justin Jackson, when he got to play last year, he showed some impressive moments.


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[Assistant] Uh, and they're pretty creative in the run game out in Los Angeles too, the Chargers, to where, you know, I think Anthony Lin probably thinks he can design some cute run plays to help out the run game if need be too. But yeaah, I think Melvin Gordon, I don't know where this goes.


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[Assistant] I really don't. This one I go, I put in the box of, this could get ugly.


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[Assistant] That, that's the beauty of what he is. He's really almost like a, a more athletic tight end to a degree as far as the role. They're not putting Michael Thomas outside like an Odell Beckham Jr. and Tony O'Brien and going, just run by people and we'll throw you bombs. No, that's not Michael Thomas' game. He's really like a big slot receiver or a tight end you can move around.


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[Assistant] He's got great route running skills, he can really put his foot in the ground, but he's amazing in traffic and doing all those things.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot like we talked about, like, the Cowboys with Ezekiel Elliott, the teams framed around him, a little bit that way with the New Orleans Saints. First of all, receivers are not that talented in New Orleans. No, there isn't.


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[Assistant] Yeah, guys you'd be scared of if you're game planning against that. They don't exist on the team without Michael Thomas.


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[Assistant] The other thing, you know, just look at, and I know they got Jared Cook this year, so that'll help out, but the last two years in the past came.


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[Assistant] I mean the whole pass offense is orchestrated around two people. It's Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara. And that's what they do. So to me with this offense where Drew Brees is, Sean Payton, Super Bowl window, all the things you brought up.


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[Assistant] It's only a matter of time. I think he will become the highest paid receiver in all of football because that's what happens when you're the next guy up and you're in that conversation. You know, do I think he's as good as, you know, Mike Evans, Julio Jones, AJ Green or Odell Beckham Jr.? No, I'm on record as saying I don't think he's in their class.


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[Assistant] He still puts up great statistics, he's a great fit for what they do offensively and they're a really good football team and that's why he'll be the highest paid wide receiver in the game.


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[Assistant] Well the Trent Williams thing is interesting because of this. I've called around the league a little bit to figure out what's going on here too. And there's two lines of theories here. I talked to a few people yesterday specifically because at the end of OTA's


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[Assistant] I was led by some people that I knew that knew some stuff about the situation that they thought, oh the Trent Williams thing, it'll get smoothed over once we get in training camp, you know, and I think we offer them a little bit more money.


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[Assistant] Uh, that th-th-this'll happen. But, so I hear still some of that, that people think that if he just gets paid a little more change on top and gets paid like the highest tackle in football, that he could come back. But, I had two people tell me yesterday that,


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[Assistant] They think it's dysfunctional beyond repair and that they don't think Trenton Williams is going to go there. In fact, the two people I talked to yesterday really ended up bagging hard on the Washington Redskins in general and really had a lot of negative things to say about the leadership with the Washington Redskins and how even


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[Assistant] Hall of Fame left Tackle in one of the best in the game. And it'll be big if he wants to play.


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[Assistant] And I don't know exactly what the specifics of the story are. I hope to get those at some point here. But to me it sounds like one of those things, yea, where you must have been misled about the situation or told something that, you know, ended up not being true. And yea, uh, you know, two peo- like I said,


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[Assistant] I talked to two people yesterday who really thought money is going to sue this over. But I talked to two other people who I trust every bit as much as the other guys I just talked about and they think that no, this could be an issue and this could linger for a while.


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[Assistant] That I can believe he can turn around people like Eric Flowers and make them a better player. But we'll see where it goes. And the Trent William thing is I'm going to continue to call and figure it out.


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[Assistant] Uh, but that has the potential, I think, maybe to get ugly as well. Who else, uh, interest here? Well, okay, Jadevion Clowney. Let's just hit on him. We're not gonna see him to the start of the season. He'll sign his franchise tender right as we start the season. But again, he's in Melvin Gordon's book.


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[Assistant] It's gotta, it's gotta happen soon. I mean, the Jags, again, I think are a team to watch out for. I think they're going to the playoffs. I wouldn't be absolutely shocked if they went to the Super Bowl. I mean, they're that talented.


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[Assistant] And it's the Seattle defensive scheme. Yannick and Gokwe is their Cliff Averill, right? When they were winning Super Bowls in Seattle. He's that guy. That's what the greatness of that Jags defense is. They don't have to blitz because they have four guys that can get after the quarterback. And Yannick and Gokwe is the best one at getting after the quarterback.


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[Assistant] Here's the big issue for the Jaguars. The top six highest paid guys at the position in football and defense enter Demarcus Lawrence, Frank Clark, Trey Flowers, Cameron Jordan, D-Ford, Olivier Vernon.


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[Assistant] Yannick Ngocque is going to look at all those guys except for maybe Cameron Jordan and go, I've outperformed Olivier Vernon, D. Ford, Trey Flowers, Frank Clark, and Demarcus Lawrence. None of them had the first three years of their careers that he has had to this point. So he is going to be able to command top market dollar, and I just don't know where that number is right now, but I think eventually something gets done there in Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeaah, we got a few other matters. We're gonna hit on a few things, okay? Uhm, what is, what do we want to do? Do we want to call my father first and go there? Or do we- Is it take your- He's on the line! Ohhhh! Nice! How'd he do there, Dad?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, we were going through just some of the, just the main names in training camp. You know, Zeke Elliott, Melvin Gordon, Michael Thomas, Trent Williams, Yannick Ngocwe, and Jadevia Unclowney. You know, all contract situations, little issues there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, is that the problem? He's not a household name. Well, I mean, I think dad makes the point. You're right. I mean, when you think about Jacksonville's defense, we go Jalen Ramsey, Kaleus Campbell, you know, then maybe Yannick Ngocwe or Miles Jack or AJ Bouye, but there's a lot of talent there on that side of the ball. Dad, I make the comment and just, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, you know,