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[Assistant] Alright, I'm gonna take the Steelers. I think the Jets is a fine call.


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[Assistant] Right. But I mean, they like, he should have been in once came, they played in the next week. He got concussed and went in the second. So like.


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[Assistant] And the NFL in all its reactionary glory started being like, well, if you get anything remotely considered like looking like a concussion, you're not coming back in the game.


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[Assistant] Indeed, indeed. Uhm, does, I keep getting asked this, so I'm gonna ask you guys. Does Jeff Saturday coach the Colts next year?


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[Assistant] I just think you make, you make Frank right while you're trying to fire him, start saying Eleanor, but you with that, with your season.


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[Assistant] Done. Eliminated from the playoffs. You'd rather start Nick Boles and Sam Ellinger with Jeff Saturday?


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[Assistant] There's no snap count. They're worried the one they don't want Matt Ryan to get hurt and have to pay his contract for next year too. I think they're trying to give like Jeff Saturday the best chance to win.


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[Assistant] I thought like the, like the funniest image of like the, the funniest image of the cult season, cause there's like so many with Jeff, Jeff Saturday, and Jim Ersy, but it's like that arm extending out with, with folds. It's like, he's like, I've got it.


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[Assistant] Alright, that'll do it for us. My bad, football's over.


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[Assistant] Well, what Brinson's not telling you is that Billy quit after three weeks because he couldn't deal work with Brinson anymore. And so now we've got Devo.


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[Assistant] What impressed me the most, and I'm not even sure if I would call it impressive, I don't know what the word is, is that


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[Assistant] They can do absolutely nothing on offense for three quarters for the second straight week and still manage to win the game. I mean, going into those two fourth quarter, going into the last scoring drive, I think Kenny Pickett was 10 of 21 in this game and then he magically turns into


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[Assistant] Terry Bradshaw and his primer, or 2005 Ben Roaths for whatever. He turns into some super-stealers quarterback in these fourth quarters.


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[Assistant] I mean, he was phenomenal on that last drive, and it's just like- That photo of Roger Harris was hot. Unbelievable. That was hot.


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[Assistant] Let's say the Steelers sneak into the playoffs, they get that seventh seed. If you're the- You start Mason Rudolph, yes. No, if you're the two or the three seed in the AFC, would you rather play the Ravens or would you rather play the Steelers?


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[Assistant] Lamar Jackson will say he is playing, but he doesn't play in week 18, so he has not played in five and a half weeks by the time this game rolls around.


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[Assistant] But he also got sacked six times in, or seven times in week one and lost to the Steelers.


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[Assistant] Well, I do think they're going to make, I've been, you're a Steelers fan, I have a buddy who's a Steelers fan, my buddy Jeff, and he's just been texting all week, you don't want to see us in the playoffs? You don't want to see us in the playoffs? And I'm like, I don't want the Bengals to play the Steelers in the playoffs. The Steelers have a really good defense. And you know, the other part of this is that if you're a Steelers fan, you want


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[Assistant] The bills to beat the Bengals on Monday night so that the bills have something to play for in week 18, which is the number one overall seed, so that they're playing the starters against the Patriots.


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[Assistant] AFC North, but you know the crazy thing is with the Ravens, they just look so bad, they've somehow...


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[Assistant] You know, since Lamar went out and he only played, I think, the first half, less than the first half, uh, when he got injured against the Broncos. And so they've now basically played five games without him. They're averaging 11.8 points per game.


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[Assistant] In those five games, it's not like they've been playing good teams or playing the Falcons or playing the Broncos.


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[Assistant] They played the Browns and only scored three points, so it's like...


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[Assistant] This team cannot, it doesn't matter how you feel about Lamar Jackson, whether you think his style works, whether you think it doesn't. Bottom line is this offense is better with him than it is with Tyler Huntley and it just doesn't feel like the Ravens are going to do much damage in the postseason unless Lamar gets back out there.


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[Assistant] Well, I think it's crazy just how long Lamar's been out and the Ravens keep underplaying the severity of the injury. It's like, is Lamar playing this week? Nope. Is he going to practice Wednesday? And then it's like, no, we'll hold him out of practice Thursday. And this is literally every single week where he might come back. And obviously they didn't put him on injured reserves. So that makes you feel like,


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[Assistant] I thought he could be back within four weeks and that hasn't been the case.


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[Assistant] It's also not that crazy to think that the Vikings could lose in the first round, uh, it's just, we talk about it every single week. They win by the skin of their teeth and we're like, oh my gosh, they shouldn't have won that game. But when they lose, they,


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[Assistant] It's spectacular. I mean, this is like- They're still messing around.


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[Assistant] Right, this is Asteroid crashing into the Earth losses. I mean, it is just unbelievable how bad they get beaten. And when you look at the best teams they've played, whether it was Philadelphia, whether it was Dallas, uh, even the Lions, uh, a couple of weeks ago, they're losing these games by double digits and they're all ugly losses and just it's,


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[Assistant] Uh, the Vikings just feel like that team you don't trust at all in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] No, they, they, yeaah, they can't match up in the divisional round because the Packers can only get the 7th seed and if they win they would play the 1 seed.


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[Assistant] No, 42, I thought you meant too high, like, go up to 51. I don't think it's that high.


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[Assistant] Cults are sad. Probably Eagles too, with, I mean, if Jaylen hurts, his health is such a big deal. And, but we'll say he's going to play. Yeah. And obviously if they get the one seed, they get a week off and that would be good for him. Uh, then the Cowboys three, those are my top three.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, oh yeaah, I can't even count that high. How many teams are in the NFC?


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[Assistant] I'd probably put the Vikings at five on my trust scale out of seven teams. I would actually probably put the Vikings above the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the thing, when he was doing the snow angels, I don't think he knew what was going on. But then to go to the sideline and add the sleep thing, uh, when he clearly knew what was going on at that point, that's where it was like, oh man, come on, like, this guy might be going to the hospital and you're over here.


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[Assistant] Well, so Brian Dayball said after the game that they, he doesn't plan on benching people, but I feel like coaches always say that initially. And then they think about it for three days. He's like, man, if I play Saquon and Daniel Jones on Sunday and they get injured, I'm going to look like the biggest idiot in the NFL. Uh,


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[Assistant] So I don't know, I mean like you literally have nothing to gain if you're the giant.


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[Assistant] Uh, except if you're thinking, if you're thinking, man, it would be really nice to kill the eagle's chances at the one seed so that J1 hurts has to...


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[Assistant] But don't forget the Giants pulled off the most famous Should We Rest Our Starters game of all time in 2007 when they didn't rest their starters against the undefeated Patriots and then that vaulted them to Super Bowl win.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was a regular season finale in 2007.


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[Assistant] Except their best game of the season. Their best game of the season was against the Cowboys. And they beat the Cowboys. And they're gonna play the Cowboys in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I can't believe that the Buccaneers, a team that cannot score points, that has been just atrocious on offense all season, fell behind 14 to nothing. And at that point, I honestly thought, I know Brady's had some crazy comebacks, uh, this season.


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[Assistant] But it felt like, man, 14-0 felt like 40-0 against this Buccaneers offense. I mean, just look at the last few weeks, and we scored 19 against the Cardinals. They scored 7 against the 49ers a few weeks ago. It was just like,


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[Assistant] Man, the Panthers have to choke this one away and then the Panthers choked it away. I mean, Brady was awesome, but Sam Darnold turned the ball over three times. There's a bit of a melt there.


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[Assistant] The Buccaire has got some help here, and then also, you know, the Panthers decision not to cover Mike Evans at all, that definitely backfired.


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[Assistant] Here's why I seem, I'm not like sort of, I don't think the Buccaneer is going to win super well. I would just be, if I'm another NFC team.


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[Assistant] I would be a little bit worried about facing the Buccaneers. I mean how many times has Tom Brady had his back against the wall?


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[Assistant] And they still come out there and they win because he leads him to two scores in the fourth quarter when he comes back from 14 to nothing. And today he threw for 400 yards against a pretty good Panthers defense. It's not great, but they're certainly not one of the worst defenses in the NFL. And if he could do that against Panthers defense, there's no reason you can't go out there and do it against, uh, the Cowboys defense.


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[Assistant] I'm just not going to doubt Tom Brady anymore.


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[Assistant] I, I, I don't think it's fair what's happening and I know you want me to say like, uh, a hundred thousand days cause there's no way it will ever happen, but the Titans have Derek Henry, which just gives them a puncher's chance.


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[Assistant] But it gives you a puncher's chance because you give him the ball 50 times and the final score is going to be 13 to 10 because Derek Henry runs 50 times for 212 yards.


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[Assistant] I mean, we saw a little bit in the Steelers Ravens game where there was only one full possession in the first quarter because the clock just keeps moving. That's what Titans are going to do. They're just going to keep the clock moving, shorten the game. Hey, if Jackson Bowie has three possessions, they can always score three times. So maybe we can outscore them.


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[Assistant] And so that is, you get a Jacksonville team that only gets five days of rest before they have to face Derek Henry, who has not played, uh, in two weeks, who's going to be very well rested. So.


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[Assistant] It's a huge game, there's gonna be a lot of pressure, uh, and you don't know how teams are gonna react in that situation when they have not been in that situation.


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[Assistant] I don't disagree with that. I'm just, you know, like the Lions got in the playoff race. They played a huge game against Carolina and got just stomped on. So you just see things like that.


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[Assistant] I think Jacksonville is more talented. I'm just saying that this game doesn't seem as much of a walkover as you guys think it's gonna be.


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[Assistant] Well, and you need to sign, if you're gonna re-sign Geno Smith, that allows you to kind of upgrade the defense, which, cause you're not gonna win a lot of games with Geno if you don't upgrade that defense. I mean, at times it looks like one of the worst defenses in the NFL. They played several good games, like they did against the Jets, but what does that mean when you're shutting down Mike White, uh, who's trying to play in Seattle for the first time?


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[Assistant] Uh, but you know what? Here is a fun fact. If the Seahawks do make the playoffs, they could become the first team in 22 years to make the playoffs and get a top three pick in the NFL draft. 22. What was the last one?


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[Assistant] Do you want gas or do you want me to tell you? So hold on, what year is this? So it's two thousand ninety nine season, two thousand draft, two thousand draft. Geez.


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[Assistant] They took LeVar Orange in at number two, and they took Chris Samuels at number three. How did they get those?


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[Assistant] In Ron Rivera's face. You throw Carson Wentz out there, he throws three interceptions, throws the game away, and then Ron Rivera didn't even know he could be eliminated from the playoffs, and that just made the story even sadder. I don't know what the commanders were thinking.


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[Assistant] Uh, wait, and real quick, uh, because David McNichols pointed this out, the only thing worse than the Commander's performance was their new mascot. Oh yeaah. Which, I'm glad he said that because I would have totally forgot to bring up old Major Cuddy.


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[Assistant] I just think they read the list the wrong way. Like when they gave them options for the Washington named commanders was ranked last and they're like, Oh yeah, we'll be the commanders. And with the mascot, major Tuddy was ranked last and they're like, Oh, that's perfect. Major Tuddy. Somebody walked in with a paper of like the list of stuff upside down. He just handed it like a normal paper. He's like,


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[Assistant] I wanna sue the Washington Commander Super making me look at this mascot.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, without Lane Johnson on the field, he got sacked three times in the first six plays for the Eagles. It was pretty clear he was going to be going south.


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[Assistant] Uh, I, I do think they've been underselling it. We've seen him miss two weeks, and if you can't get him out there, that means that...


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[Assistant] Because, you know, beating the Giants with Jaylen Hurts guarantees Jaylen Hurts an off week for the wild card round to rest again.


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[Assistant] Yeah, look, the lions looked awesome. They were playing a horrible bears team. I didn't realize how bad the bears were until I watched it. Like, you know, like, you know, they're bad.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and like it feels like they've been stepping that way. Obviously their offense was completely incompetent at the beginning of the season. They had no idea how to use Justin Fields, but they've slowly gotten better each week. But the Bears just don't have a lot of talent and like their offense line's not good. What if you flip Jared Goff at Justin Fields?


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[Assistant] I also think that if, uh, Josh Allen or Joe Burrow has a huge game Monday night.


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[Assistant] Well, I think another part of it is that I don't know that voters take into consideration because a lot of them look at numbers and how well they played. But when you look at the top three seeds in the AFC right now, the Chiefs, the Bills, the Bengals,


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[Assistant] Ashley Holmes is 0-2 against the Bills and the Bengals. He's not played well in those two big games, and the winner of the Monday night game will be 2-1-0. You know, if the Bengals win, Joe Burrows 2-0 against the...


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[Assistant] Is to win out by being the chief of the bangles so it's just my homes.


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[Assistant] Didn't come up in those two big, big games, and I think there's something to be said for that. You know, if he's far and away above everyone...


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[Assistant] Then it doesn't matter, but if you're kinda even, then I feel like that can be one of the deciding factors.


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[Assistant] I think I spent three minutes earlier explaining that I think Tennessee can play with Jacksonville. It's going to be a close game. Uh, but I'm going with Jackson DeVille only because their mascot wears, uh, what does he wear? He wears thongs.


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[Assistant] So no one is taking the Patriots. They only have to win one game. They have to play the Bills.


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[Assistant] Well, let me throw this out there. If the Bengals win Monday night and the Chiefs win on Saturday afternoon, then the Bills are not playing for the one seed. And then it's, do they play to try and get the two or three seed? But those are kind of interchangeable. A little.


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[Assistant] No, they, that can still happen. The, the patriots get the...


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[Assistant] New England and Jacksonville I think are the only two teams that can get in at 8 and 9 in the 7th seed.


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[Assistant] Okay, well, if the lion, if the packers win, then Wilson has to wear one of your two-pays.


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[Assistant] Brenton, I bought a crystal ball. I've been looking at it. I know exactly what's going to happen. I already know. And I'm here to tell everyone.


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[Assistant] 49ers Brinton favored by three to cover against the Seahawks. This game I feel like San Francisco should be favored.


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[Assistant] By more, but I think the point spread is where it is, cause number one, uh, they have a, still have a rookie quarterback, Brock Purdy. And we don't know if Thibaut Samuel is going to play cause he got pretty banged up with his ankle. And when you consider the fact that this game is Thursday night, that is a short turnaround.


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[Assistant] That's fine. If Debo wants to take the week off to let his ankle heal. I think the 49ers still rolled. They beat the Seahawks by 20 points earlier in the season. Uh, the defense is even better now than it was earlier in the season. And Brock Purdy actually looks like a competent quarterback.


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[Assistant] Uh, next up is the Cincinnati Bengals favored by three and a half points over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You know what, Brendan, here's a fun fact. There are only two teams in the NFL that have not lost a game since October.


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[Assistant] Team number one is the 49ers. Team number two is the Bengals. We saw what the 49ers did to the Buccaneers in week 14. Now Tiffin Bay has to turn around and play the other team, the Bengals, in week 15. And look.


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[Assistant] Whenever Tampa Bay has played a good team this year, they pretty much got rocked. And that's because the Buccaneers just aren't a very good team. And so,


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[Assistant] Uh, when you look at what the Bengals can do, they can beat you in every way possible. If defense is good, they have weapons, uh, you want to get a shootout, they'll get in a shootout. You want a defensive slugfest, they'll do a defensive slugfest. So the fact that the Buccaneers are struggling against good teams,


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[Assistant] Buccaneers are also 0-3 against the AFC North. I really, really, really like Cincinnati in this spot.


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[Assistant] Next up, the Baltimore Ravens. Underdogs against the Cleveland Browns. Three point underdogs? What? Are you kidding me? Have the oddsmakers watched Deshaun Watson play a single game since he's been back? Uh, he's been back eight quarters.


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[Assistant] Two full games, and the Browns have scored one offensive touchdown with Deshaun Watson Brinton. I don't know if you know anything about football, but that's not good. One touchdown in two games is not good. And look, I know why the Ravens are underdogs here. It's because they're probably going to be down to their third string quarterback if Tyler Huntley and Lamar Jackson are both out. Huntley obviously injured in week 14, uh, against the Steelers, but you know what?


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[Assistant] That's why the Bravens were underdogs in Week 14 against the Steelers, because everybody said, well, it's their backup quarterback. The backup quarterback can't be.


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[Assistant] The Steelers and then, you know what? It wasn't even the backup. It was the third string quarterback Anthony Brown. So I think that the Ravens are a better coached team. Uh, and I think that if you're going to give me plus three and they're playing a not so great Brown's team with a not so great offense right now, I'm going to go ahead and just grab it and run away with it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I think this is more of a, they think Anthony Brown will be the starter, cause I feel like if it was Lamar Jackson or even Tyler Huntley, that the Ravens probably favored, I know you said pick them, but with Huntley,


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[Assistant] But I feel like they would probably be maybe a one, one and a half point favorite. So yeah. For the Browns or the Ravens? Ravens.


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[Assistant] And I pick the Detroit Lions because I'm gonna start picking them every week. This team is on an absolute roll. They've won five of their past six games. They destroyed the Vikings. They would have won six of their past six games if they could have somehow beaten the Bills on Thanksgiving. Lost that game 20-25 because Josh Allen, let it feel. We'll drive down late.


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[Assistant] So, uh, you know, besides that game, and that game was close, and then you look at what they've done. They beat the Giants. The Giants are a good team.


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[Assistant] They, that destroyed the Bears. They've just played so well. Uh, Dan Campbell has this team ready to roll. They feel like a dark horse playoff candidate. Jared Goff is on fire. Jameis Williams is back in the lineup catching the touchdown pass against the Vikings. This team has a ton of weapons. The defense is good. I think they can beat the Jets. And if I just get a straight up pick, I am rolling with Detroit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, this is just an interesting game. I don't think they want to move it very much either way, just because you have two coaches who so intimately know each other.


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[Assistant] I've compared it to the Bills Jets game week 14 where that one was nine and a half and it just felt like, I just feel like the Jets were good enough to not be beat.


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[Assistant] By 10. And that's how I feel about the Rams here. Like, do I expect the Rams win? Probably not. But the Packers should not be favored by more than a touchdown over anyone. And you have Baker Mayfield who's going to be going in this game with so much confidence after what happened in the Thursday game against the Raiders. He's running this offense that he apparently loves.


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[Assistant] Uh, based on what we've seen out of him so far, he's gonna have had 10 days to prepare.


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[Assistant] Brinton, I thought you were going to go the other way with this, but I actually absolutely agree with you here. I think that the Eagles, they're going to be all business. Look, they still need to clinch that number one seed. They don't want anyone to get near.


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[Assistant] Uh, catching them and the one thing you gotta do when you want something like that is you gotta beat the bad teams on your schedule. The Bears are not a good team, even though Justin Fields has made them a lot more fun to watch and their brand of football is much more exciting, but it does feel like the Eagles are much more talented on both sides of the ball. And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this, uh, point spread gets into double digits.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I don't think it will trickle up that much. I don't think we'll see it get to 16, maybe like 14 and a half, so you have a 2 touchdown mark.


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[Assistant] Uh, but yeaah, I wouldn't be surprised if it does move a little bit.


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[Assistant] By the way, uh, you know, when I used to travel for Thanksgiving, I always used to see the whole family with 18 kids or whatever piling onto the plane. I'd say, isn't it a lot easier to fly granny to the family than the family to granny? I mean, really, when you think about it, right?


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[Assistant] I don't think I had a tie, did I? Did I put an extra game in? I thought I was 4-2. I'll take a tie.


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[Assistant] Look, Jacksonville's coming over by. The Ravens did nothing on offense last week. Uhm, I don't think they're gonna go up and down the field in this one. I think Jacksonville's gonna hang around. Trevor Lawrence played well the last two weeks.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think he's figured out some things. They don't rush the pass that well, but you don't really have to do that against the Ravens. I think you gotta be stout against the run. Uh, so I'm going to take Jacksonville plus the points is one of my best bets. I think they hang around in the game. They don't win it, but they'll be right there.


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[Assistant] Uh, 49ers, you know, coming off the Monday nighter, uh, short week. Uh, I think this will be one of those games where the 49ers will win the game, uh, you know, by a touchdown, but you're going to give me nine. I'm taking the nine. So I'll take the Saints as the best bet.


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[Assistant] I agree. I mean, look, I love, I think they're tough, physical, nasty, got a lot of...


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[Assistant] Uh, everything you need. You can rush the pass or you can run the ball. You can throw it and you got weapons. Uh, so I get it. You got a great coach. Uh, but I just think this number is a little too high for me. That's why I'm taking this thing.


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[Assistant] The Browns defense is bad. I mean, it's really bad. I think Brady coming off the by, I think he found something the last time out against Seattle. They were much better on offense. I think they're going to be better. And I think defensively they're going to be good against the run here.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, Cleveland, that's their whole offense. They run the ball, they have success, they don't, you don't have success. And I think this is going to be one of those games where Brady comes off the buy and starts showing people, hey, I'm back just like you said, so I'm going to take the bucks minus the points is the best bet.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I really didn't, I don't know why I put that in, I didn't, I even said on the podcast, I didn't, I like the under, I lean to the under, I don't know why I put that in. Uhm, that was one of those, I can't remember.


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[Assistant] But seven points, I'll, I'll take my shot on the road. Uh, I just don't think the Eagles or the last couple of weeks have been that good. The Colts should have beat them. I mean, they had them. They had, not just the late time, they were up one.


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[Assistant] But I don't think you'll see Cooper Cup again for sure. And I would shut, I would shut Stafford down for as long as he, he's, he's got any symptoms whatsoever. Shut him down. So I don't think he plays this week. And if he doesn't play this week, there are bad offense with, most of the time he played better last week, but there are bad offense with him.


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[Assistant] Look, if you're the head coach and you have good coaches...


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[Assistant] You coach the coaches and you lead the men. It's not that complicated. It really, I don't know why people went so nuts about it. It really isn't. I mean, Brenna Staley was coaching at John Carroll five years ago.


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[Assistant] I disagree on the answer. I don't think that's the reason. I think the reason is he stunk. I mean, he was terrible.


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[Assistant] If he played well and he played well, they lost, he threw for 150 yards and they lost and he said the same thing. He might not bench him, but he was terrible. It was so bad. But you know, at least, you know, Zach Wilson should say, Hey, Robert Solomon, maybe you might want to punt the ball out of bounds at the end of the game, Robert. You want to point fingers at anybody?


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[Assistant] I mean, that's the reality. It was a terrible decision. Uh, and Robert Sala, by the way, blamed the punter. Ultimately, you're the one responsible. Pump the damn ball out of bounds.


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[Assistant] Correct, correct, punt the ball to bounds. And I know the special teams coach there. I've known him for a long time. I can't imagine that's what he told him to do. So maybe he did go rogue, but that was a bad decision in any way you shake out. But here's the thing.


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[Assistant] Whoever starts a quarterback in this game, the better defense and a dominant defense is the Jets. That defense, and I watched them on tape a lot this week. Wow. They have the makings of being the 49ers defense of yesteryear.


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[Assistant] Quinnen Williams playing out of his mind. The young pass rushers are really, you know, Clemens and Johnson and Huff. They're starting to get after the quarterback. The secondary is good. They're athletic. The linebackers can all run. Uh, I love that defense. So I'm going to take the Jets in this spot.


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[Assistant] Right, eventually, look, it's all wonderful now and it's great that he can do that and everything, but he, and he is getting better as a pastor, but eventually he's got to stand in there.


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[Assistant] But he has to run out of necessity now because they're so bad, uh, in other spots. So I get it. But he's, we got to calm down on the running part of it because eventually he's going to have to throw from the pocket.


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[Assistant] He was my number two quarterback coming out when he came out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I can't, I don't understand this line. I mean, they, they are awful.


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[Assistant] It's weird, it's just a weird line for me, uhm, but.


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[Assistant] It's a tough game to pick. I'd probably lean more to the under, but I'll take the better defense, I think.


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[Assistant] By the way, one other thing about that, Broncos team. It's time to start pointing the finger at the damn quarterback.


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[Assistant] Get out! Or if he gets out, he shouldn't be getting out, it's just, it's incredible.


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[Assistant] You know the last time that happened, that was the 50s dynasty of the Browns. It doesn't happen. And they could run it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was, he was a game manager for five years. Then he started to become good for life.


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[Assistant] Three? Is that three or four? He got really good for a while there. And then...


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[Assistant] It kind of, he wasn't good for the last couple years. It kind of went off the rails. And he was terrible this year. How old is he?


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[Assistant] I mean, you know, that guy's can be irrational at times, Bidwell. So I think there's a possibility and he'd eat the money. But, uhm, cause you know, if you don't, if people aren't going to the games, you're not selling tickets, then that's going to be a big chunk of your money as well. So.


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[Assistant] They threw, they threw passes down the field. So, uh, I was impressed by how they played on offense. And I think we're going to see that carry over. Arizona's packed them up. They're done. I'll take the chargers, minus the points.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I thought that also, uh, but I think I'd like to announce that Wilson, since he now has his own podcast, has been promoted from junior draft analyst to senior draft analyst. I have a hat I'm gonna send you and a shirt.


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[Assistant] And a sock. But just one sock. Okay, I have to earn the other sock. What happened to the other sock?


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't think this would make Aaron Rodgers mad. I know we talked about it a week or two ago that it would, but that was before Aaron Rodgers kind of started setting the table for this by saying, going on the Pat McAfee show and saying, oh yeah guys, I have a broken thumb. I'm playing football with a freaking broken thumb on my throwing hand.


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[Assistant] That's difficult for a quarterback. And so that felt like it was him saying, all right, well, when we're kind of out of this, I might go to the bench here. And then when you toss this injury in there, I will be shocked if he plays another game this season, because there's no reason to risk further injury. The Packers need to know what they have in Jordan Love before they have to pick up this fifth year option in six months. Uh,


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[Assistant] So it just feels like this is the transition, and as started, you're four and eight, you're not gonna send Aaron Rodgers to get out there to get beat up every week when he's not playing for anything. Uh, yeaah, so I think that this was the baton, the torch, whatever you wanna call it. Something's being passed to Jordan Love here.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think, I think- And as we mentioned, I don't know if it was last week or the week before that, if Rogers did retire, uh, Packers would be taking a $40.3 million dead cap hit according to SpotTrack.


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[Assistant] Uh, I would lean 5248 that Aaron Rogers plays next season.


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[Assistant] Go back, go back to the early nineties or our late nineties, early two thousands and you had teams, they started running, especially in college, you run these spread offenses, you have five wide and defenses weren't equipped.


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[Assistant] I mean what they did to the Packers, there was literally nothing the Packers could do to stop them. When it was 37 or 34 to 20,


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[Assistant] It was, if Green Bay wants to have any chance to come back, they have to stop this team, and they couldn't. I mean, you look at what the Eagles are doing, and they just have so many weapons. It's like, if you do stop Jalen Hurts, well, there's Miles Sanders, there's Kenneth Gainwell, there's just, they just keep throwing weapons at you, and it's hard for a defense to...


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[Assistant] Well, you better clean it up because they play Terry Kenner who we've been talking about in week 13 next week.


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[Assistant] The thing with Trevor Lawrence is just that he's been inconsistent. And this game was actually a good example of that. You know, if you're looking at the glass half full and you want to be an optimist, you're saying maybe this is where Trevor Lawrence finally turned the corner. He made a lot of clutch plays, uh, especially in the fourth quarter. He threw for...


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[Assistant] You know, only one touchdown and 170 in the three quarters before that. Had an ugly fumble in the third quarter, so he wasn't great for the first three quarters. He was, he was the Trevor Warren, so we've come to know and love that sometimes pulls a nice throw, uh,


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[Assistant] Out of his hat and then, you know, doesn't look great the rest of the game. So it's really hard.


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[Assistant] Uh, in that aspect it was good, but it's not like he played four great quarters or even.


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[Assistant] You know what, here, here, well, I mean, he hit it straight down the middle and even if you watch him, cause usually a kicker can tell pretty much right away.


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[Assistant] Uh, if it's going in and he was, he did the slow backtrack, like he was willing it to go further. He knew.


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[Assistant] He didn't seem like he thought it had enough mustard on it. Uhm, and you know, it fell probably two yards short, but that's just.


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[Assistant] That's one where I would have sat down, if you're John Harbots, do we have a better chance of the Hail Mary or a 67 yard field goal outdoors in Jacksonville? You know, it's, it's a tough kick, obviously, because it was set an NFL record, but when you add in the fact that


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[Assistant] Humidity, humidity had just stormed, uh, at the beginning of the game. So there's those factors into it. Uh, but you know, you have Justin Tucker, you give them a chance.


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[Assistant] It's about 3 yards short. It probably makes it from 61. Right, which it was a 67 yarder. That's my point. 62.


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[Assistant] Just, that's those weird things you're talking about though is, it looks like the Ravens have it all tied up. All they have to do is go down, get one more score, it's probably over. Nope, Gus Edwards scores on the first play, after Jacksonville cut the lead to 19-17. Just crazy things like that keep happening.


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[Assistant] Uh, and, and, you know, I agree with Wilson, this is probably a C. And the thing is, if they had just won one other game and they were five and six with Watson coming back.


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[Assistant] Well, let me go through what I, let me finish my thought first. Uh, yeah, the Jets game was number one and number two was the Chargers game where Cade York missed a field goal. And if they get either one of those two games, they're five and six and you feel good about where you are with Deshaun Watson coming back. But at four and seven, you're on the cusp of being hopelessly out of it. Uh, so man, it's just.


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[Assistant] The Browns, you know, usually they Browns it up and they lose games like this. And so that's big. They were able to turn the corner with David Ninjoku making the second most absurd catch of the entire year, uh, behind only Justin Jefferson's.


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[Assistant] Eli Manning? He was once teammates with Philip Rivers. Indeed.


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[Assistant] I mean, they'd beat the Cowboys in week one. There's definitely a chance they could.


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[Assistant] They could potentially be any team that would end up in that 5 spot.


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[Assistant] And, well, and then you look at the games, he's gotta go back to Houston, which is gonna be...


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[Assistant] Crazy. Then he plays the Bengals the next week and the Ravens the next week. So it-


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel like the Jets did a mental break from Zach Wilson the other way around. And look, I'm the president of the Mike White fan club. I saw him just totally destroy the Bengals last season when he came out of nowhere and they won that game 34 to 31.


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[Assistant] Against the Bears. And the thing is, like, Zach Wilson just has not been good this season, and it really felt like as good as the Jets had been through the first 11 weeks, that they didn't really feel like a true playoff contender because Zach Wilson was their quarterback. But now that Mike White's in there, and not that, you know, he's not


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[Assistant] Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen, but this team feels like it's in much better hands. I look at their Vikings game next week. For instance, if Zach wasn't starting that game, I'm taking the Vikings. I don't care what the point spread is, but with Mike White.


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[Assistant] It's a little dicier. Maybe I picked the Jets to win. So I just feel like this, he gives them a much better shot of making the playoffs and winning more games down the stretch.


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[Assistant] That's, that's, and you've lost the locker room, that's usually a sign, it's probably time.


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[Assistant] No, no, my dad went to the game, my sister, my brother-in-law, my sister-in-law.


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[Assistant] We were hanging out with, uh, you know, Bangles fans on Saturday night in Nashville and, uh, ran into Evan McPherson at the Bangles Hotel. Ran into Evan McPherson.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, like sometimes the players will come down because we're on our way somewhere else.


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[Assistant] No, we weren't accidentally there. We were there. And so, uh, so anyway, he came down and he started talking to my dad and my sister who would probably, this is like six thirty or seven o'clock.


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[Assistant] And so she decides she wants a picture with Evan McPherson. My dad's like, oh my God, don't do this.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think my dad saw him first. It was like, hey, they obviously know each other. They're Bengals. Right, right, right. Yeah. So, uh, so anyway, uh, drew Christmas, the Bengals partner. This is only a second game ever. And my sister didn't know what he looked like. I don't think I even know she didn't.


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[Assistant] He asked Drew Christman to take the photo of her and Evan McPherson. She just like, excuse me, can you take this photo? Excuse me. Literally.


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[Assistant] Yes, so she asked the bangles punter, without knowing it was the bangles punter, to take a picture of her and of me.


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[Assistant] No, she actually thought it was even more hilarious and basically said that, uh, you know, when, when you play 10 more seasons, people want to take pictures with you, but now it's heaven's service, something like that. I was crazy, but it was, it was pretty funny.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so this game, you know, if you're the Bengals, the one thing you really want to do is shut down Derek Henry and the way they were tackling Derek Henry.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes, his fully healthy offense was only able to score 20 points against this Titans defense. So there was some thought, you know, the Bengals could struggle a little bit, uh, without Jamar Chase out there, but they did, you know, because T Higgins went off and you know, it's, this is not,


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[Assistant] A Tennessee defense that's easy to move the ball on. It's not easy to score points. Uh, but what the Bengals did without Joe Mixon and without Jamar Chase, I really felt like this was their best win, their most impressive win.


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[Assistant] Uh, and just kind of the one that said, Hey everyone, we're still here. We're the defending AFC champs, uh, and we're out here to, uh, get that crown again. And so, you know, I think if people were sleeping on the banels before.


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[Assistant] That this might have been the win where it said, okay, I'll, maybe I'll start taking this team seriously.


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[Assistant] Let him kick the field goal, you get the ball back down a touchdown, that's it. You know, it's that easy, but instead you get flagged for this penalty that probably gets called twice a year. I think the dumb penalty was that the Raiders also got called for a similar penalty that cost them the game earlier this year.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, so the Titans special teams just absolutely blew it there with, uh, they missed a field goal right before the half from I think 33 yards that are 35 yards. It just, I mean it was 20 mile an hour wins, 15, 20 mile an hour wins in Nashville. It was this guy's first game ever in the NFL and it just hooked on him and, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, that, obviously her and then the penalty won the game for the Bengals.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's all about the schedule. The ravens have a much easier schedule.


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[Assistant] The Bills, the Chiefs, the Patriots, the Ravens, Tom Brady and the Buccaneers, the Browns with Deshaun Watson and then Baltimore on the flip side only plays one more team that currently has a winning record.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I agree with that though. So I will just say two things that I think the Bengals are the better team, uh, right now. That does, just the schedule is much more difficult on their end. And number two, if the game comes, if the division comes down to week 18, which is Bengals Ravens, I think the Bengals will win.


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[Assistant] They're the buccaneers in the sense that like it doesn't matter what they do because they're not, they're going to get that three or four seed and that's it. Like that's.


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[Assistant] Like titans, dolphins in the wild card round. That would be an entertaining game.


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[Assistant] While you're looking at that, as Victor points out, uh, furrow is going to finally beat the browns. The bang will struggle against the browns, right? So maybe they lose the browns.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think beating the Cardinals is turning the corner. If anything, the Cardinals charger this game up.


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[Assistant] I mean, they just kept making these dumb mistakes. Uh, you know, I think James Connor had a fumble. There was the interception. There was Kyler Murray in the press conference after the game.


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[Assistant] Saying that, oh, uh, yeah, the Chargers had our fourth and one figured up.


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[Assistant] He actually used the F word in a press conference and talk about throwing your head coach under the bus.


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[Assistant] Then saying that a fourth and one failed because they out-schemed us. I mean, that is a bonkers thing for a starting quarterback to say when the coach


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[Assistant] I said, hey, we're going to call a play that gives you three options, Kyler. So it's kind of on you to make the right choice. Uh, you know, and if you keep the ball, whatever, whatever goes on here, Cliff's putting it on Kyler's shoulders. And when it fails, then Cliff's thrown it back or Kyler's thrown it back on Cliff and saying, well, it's your fault because you called a dumb play.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're going to have a lot of big decisions to make because it does feel like, uh,


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[Assistant] Yes, and it looked like it was going to be a disaster because he also got injured early.


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[Assistant] And it was like, oh no, is there a car season over? But then he came back after one play and uh, looked phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, winning does help that. And you know, it was crazy.


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[Assistant] How well Josh Jacobs played. He had the fourth longest.


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[Assistant] Game winning touchdown run, or offensive touchdown in overtime.


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[Assistant] But you know, I thought the weird thing about this game that we haven't really seen is Gino Smith made a couple big mistakes. He's just been so good protecting the ball.


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[Assistant] One reason that Seahawk's offense has been so efficient is just because Geno Smith has been playing smart football and, uh, he threw an interception in this game. He lost a fumble in the second half, uh, obviously not.


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[Assistant] But, but that's a fumble that can't happen. This is week 12 of the NFL season. This is in practice three of training camp. Uh, so you just, you can't have those things happen.


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[Assistant] Uh, but man, if the Raiders, we talked about if the Browns would have just flipped one or two games from earlier this year, I feel the same way about the Raiders. This team is good.


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[Assistant] Good. I mean, I don't think they're a Super Bowl contender, but they certainly could have been a playoff contender if just one or two games.


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[Assistant] A hundred percent chance. They're awesome. I mean, you already said you want one. If I can get a pick six one, I'll wear it everywhere. Literally everywhere.


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[Assistant] Like what purpose does that serve Brinton? Why do you have a beard? Well, I'm not the one questioning the big hat.


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[Assistant] I just do, I do want to say one thing about this game, because we were talking about how the Chargers didn't charger up their game, and the NFC version of the Chargers, clearly the Falcons, who falcon things up all the time, and they totally falconed up this game. They got down to Washington's two yard line, uh, with under a minute left, and if they score,


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[Assistant] You go up 2019, you probably win the game. And, uh, Marcus Mariota gets taken down for a two yard loss. Tip ball interception. Game over.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, you look at the NFC East has all four teams in right now. I do not think all four of their teams are going to make it.


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[Assistant] Although they play each other, the commanders play the Giants two games in a row. They play the Giants and they have a bite and they play the Giants again.


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[Assistant] It is improbable. Have you ever seen a team get shut out and they didn't punt a single time in the second half?


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[Assistant] I guessed four and then Brenton spoke over me. You stole my guess Brenton.


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[Assistant] And it's crazy to think that before Sunday, the last time these two teams played, it was the 54-51 game. And now, it's only been four years and we're at this point where the Rams are trash this year and the Chiefs sleptwalked through this game.


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[Assistant] They have a top three defense in the NFL. If they had any talent at quarterback or offense.


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[Assistant] True, my winner is JTwiceJJ, Josh Jacobs in a contract here leading the NFL in rushing. He gonna get paid and he's gonna buy a bunch of bacon.


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[Assistant] And then my podcast be called with the first kick.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports Daily Info Podcast. I'm Will Ritson. I'm your host. Thursday Night Football, week nine. Open up week nine with a more


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[Assistant] The Texans Thursday night football, a better game than we thought it would be. Still a double digit victory for Philadelphia. Joining me to break it down. Ryan Wilson and John breach. What's up boys?


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[Assistant] We are not going to spin. Look, I won't let it happen.


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[Assistant] That's what I just asked. We already did this. We are not going to spend five minutes arguing about who is the best team in football. Billy's here. I wanted to get precious thoughts. I understand that.


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[Assistant] If you are, if you are, and I think, I actually think that Pete's approach is kind of fair.


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[Assistant] If you're the reigning Super Bowl champion and you haven't lost, you stay at number one. Once that reigning Super Bowl champion has lost.


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[Assistant] Then the only undefeated teams in the league move up to the top.


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[Assistant] I don't have a problem if anybody ranks the egos number one in power rankings. I, I just think that if


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[Assistant] The bills and egos played on a neutral field, the bills would be favored by Vegas. That's fine. I just asked, I asked Breach a simple question. I'm not sure why you're getting so angry. I'm not angry.


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[Assistant] Yeah, did they give up, did they give up 139 yards to a rookie running back on a 1-6 in one team but that was trailing by double digits like the entire second half?


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[Assistant] I love Jalen Hurts. I think he's taking a huge step this year. AJ Brown, uhm, is like, you know, if you were like, if you gave me a list of like 10 to 15 family members, you're like, alright.


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[Assistant] If you go down the list of like people you love and like slot AJ Brown in here, he's like number four.


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[Assistant] But, I mean, you know, at the same time, Stefan Diggs and Josh Allen are, the Bills have a better passing offense.


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[Assistant] Now, I do think that I would take as a rushing, a factor in the rushing game, I would take Josh Allen over Jalen Hurts, even though I think Jalen Hurts is, we're talking like, like two of the two best Russian quarterbacks in the league. I don't know if I would.


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[Assistant] The Eagles are awesome. I love the Eagles. Again, I picked them because they're both for the season. I think they're fantastic.


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[Assistant] I have, I have bets on them to win the division, to win the conference, to win the Super Bowl. I hope they win the Super Bowl. That would be best case scenario for me.


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[Assistant] But, but, but I think that the one thing about the Eagles, and this is, you go back to, and this is not a Jill and Hertz can't win the playoffs, it's...


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[Assistant] Right? And a team that can pass to win, thanks to the addition of, of AJ Brown and because Devontae Smith taking, you know, he had been explosive this year, but I think he's very, very good. But the Eagles are not great against the run.


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[Assistant] And you would prefer, if you're an Eagles fan, for the Eagles to be running.


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[Assistant] So if a team gets up on the Eagles and they are forced to pass as the other team is running downhill against a team that can't really stop the run, that's not a great formula. Like let's, let's say, um, but this way Superbowl Superbowl is going on.


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[Assistant] You start the second quarter down 17 nothing, would you rather have the Eagles or the Bills?


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[Assistant] Randomness happening and then being put in a bad position and being forced to do something they don't necessarily do as well as the building.


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[Assistant] But I, I really need to point out that I said over, and again, Billy, you didn't start working at, you know, you, you weren't producing the podcast before the season. Like there's no reason you wouldn't hear me repeat this mantra over and over again. I said, if Jalen Hurts takes any kind of step forward, the Eagles offense can be really, can be good.


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[Assistant] And if he takes a big step forward, they can be super bowl good. Like, and he's taken that step forward and I trust you and hurts, but Josh Allen is just an other world.


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[Assistant] Al is like, absolute, like, he's been told by people at Amazon, like, hey, look, we don't give a flying F if you talk about the spread. Cause after the game he goes, what did we learn tonight? He goes, David Pearson, good running back. The Texans rebounded. The Texans covered.


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[Assistant] The two point conversion mattered for some other people, like the over under obvious.


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[Assistant] Stupid question, but not that that's ever stopped me from asking stupid questions. But like, I think it's kind of viable. Appreciate the disclaimer this time though.


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[Assistant] I keep asking this. The World Series between the Phillies and the, I know, I know, I know.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying like the Phillies and the Astros, the Houston, the Philadelphia teams are playing in the world series on the same night that this.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying if you had one television, you were a Philly sports fan. You ain't watching the Eagles at the Texans. You're following under a firm. No, you're not.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the, no, I mean, I'm, I'm saying that like,


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[Assistant] And I, and I, like, and remember too that originally the World Series was scheduled to be Wednesday.


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[Assistant] Uh, Wednesday and Friday, but the rain delay game three pushed it back and matched it up with a Thursday game. So a bunch of Philadelphia people bought tickets.


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[Assistant] Like, like, like travel to, to Houston thinking they were going to go to a world series game to go to an Eagles game.


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[Assistant] It really, it really felt like Philly just came out a little flat.


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[Assistant] Houston was like, this is our, we don't get primetime games.


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[Assistant] We are, we are a 13 and a half point underdog at home. It is so, it is so disrespectful to be a 13 and a half point under, like to be a two touchdown underdog at home in the NFL is so disrespectful to your team. And I thought that Lovey Smith in the Texans came out.


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[Assistant] With a good game plan. They wanted to run the football. They had a nice scripted first drive.


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[Assistant] And then like just basically it came down to like a Alabama versus, you know, some G5. NC State.


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[Assistant] The point being is that, yes, fine, NC State, like, I don't know why I feel like I'm gonna drop an F-bomb tonight. Yeah, that's, that's what makes you angry about the thing I said. You've been close, you've been close like two or three times now. Nah, I don't, I don't, Wilson's, you know, Wilson's dropped more F-bombs on this podcast than I have. This is true. Have you really? Oh yeah. Very smart.


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[Assistant] You know, I just not want to fly out. You're like, oh man fire. That's right.


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[Assistant] The point being, fine, NC State, Boston College, whatever.


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[Assistant] F you want to call it, is that uhm, like it just felt like Philly kind of took over and just, it got to the point where Davis Mills was,


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[Assistant] He didn't have a ton of time back there. He had to force the issue several times knowing that Philly was just sort of using their superior advantage and talent to take over the game.


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[Assistant] And when he started forcing it, it basically flipped it back the other way where Philly was able to kind of pull away and cruise out of there. I don't, I think, you know, Wilson mentioned that there are games where


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[Assistant] You know, football outside of sport, like, it's true, like, if you're a really good team, you stomp your competition.


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[Assistant] That was like the bills lost to the Jaguars last year. They scored six points. It was such a red flag.


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[Assistant] So like Wilson, do you think that this qualifies as a, uh, cause it wasn't a dominant win, but it was a, we're just better and deeper and more talented win. So is that a good or bad thing?


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[Assistant] I think it's tied going to the, it's tied late in the third quarter, right? Eight minutes maybe?


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[Assistant] Or they should, no show Thursday in New York against the Giants in a divisional game. Do they get out of there unscathed? I don't, I don't know that they.


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[Assistant] Even the worst loss of the Bingo season, I mean, they lost to Cooper Rush.


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[Assistant] If again, we talked about this on Monday, can't keep anything straight. Maybe Sunday. Don't worry about the day. Go ahead. We talked about this earlier this week. Okay, there we go. If there is a quarterback prospect available when you are selecting,


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[Assistant] Annoyingly Breach. You know, Breach, Breach wouldn't, see that's the thing that's annoying about Breach.


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[Assistant] My point is that uhm, this is not an anti Davis Mills thing, it's just. A reality beating the NFL thing. You.


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[Assistant] Who is highly coveted and you have multiple first round picks.


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[Assistant] And you just, you can't pass on that by saying, we think Davis Mills might be the answer. Now, again, devil's avocado. We saw it with the Bills.


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[Assistant] I think the Jets tried to do it, but maybe got a little too rushed. The Bills built out everything around, uh, Josh Allen and then dropped out Josh Allen into the ecosystem. That's what the Texans.


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[Assistant] Okay, well there are a couple other ones out there, but go ahead.


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[Assistant] I don't know what I'm saying, just hypothetically, CJ Stroud. Okay. Bryce Youngers won.


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[Assistant] This guy, this guy's a potential future franchise quarterback. I'm not saying he is, I'm just saying hypothetically. Then you take him at two.


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[Assistant] But we do need to go ahead and draft them because we're not sure Davis Mill is the guy. You don't do that.


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[Assistant] They did the smart thing last year. You just keep doing that. That's the beauty of Davis Mills. And I think it's sort of, it's like a cheaper version of Jared golf in Detroit where you can.


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[Assistant] You can push back your decision on your prospect evaluation.


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[Assistant] Because you have somebody on your roster that you think may be okay.


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[Assistant] But the problem is if you, if you force the issue and you're stuck with a guy for the next


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[Assistant] Actually, uh, not that anybody cares, but as I mentioned before that we started the podcast, I was looking at these like old emails that we hired and it's easy to hire Dave Doran because he brought, I think he brought Matt Canada with him from Northern Illinois. Like that's where Matt Canada is.


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[Assistant] I did a little launching pad, but I was like reading an old article about it. It was like after the four people they plan to interview their backup, uh, their backup options were Alabama defensive coordinator, Kirby smart.


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[Assistant] And Matt Campbell at Toledo. You took the L on that one's what you're saying.


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[Assistant] Receiving yards per game in Eagles history?


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[Assistant] I was hoping you would not tell him yes, so we can see if Billy would get it right. Oh Billy, Billy knew.


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[Assistant] I have a hat. So insulting. People are like, suggesting.


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[Assistant] You asked the question, you asked Breach your question, we'll be right back.


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[Assistant] I was trying to go find this. Somebody asked in the chat the other day, do you have any Brady Quinn football show hats? And I was like, no, but our Lewis, our buddy made those.


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[Assistant] Somebody in the chat is saying that it would be 115 and 1.


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[Assistant] That's the NFL's fault, okay? You can't go to an odd number of games after like a lengthy amount of time having 16 games and just, just go to, just wait and go to 18. It's so much easier.


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[Assistant] I'd rather be rich. Stupid rich. Stupid rich is actually the perfect lane.


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[Assistant] Alright, that'll do it for us. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. For breach for Wilson. For Brady Quinn's football shirt shirt, I'm Princeton. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the pick six podcast, CBS sports daily NFL podcast. I'm Will Rinson. I'm your host and it's a Brady Quinn football show.


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[Assistant] Oh, I love that I get blamed for all of this. Uh, look, hey, I like the idea of Bradley Chubb.


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[Assistant] On the dolphins, just walk around south beach, chub, walk around south beach. I mean, like that's where you want to be. Like that's where the action is.


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[Assistant] Insane. Which by the way, do you think that those three guys on San Francisco right now would be any good with Jimmy Garofalo? My God. He would be the favorite to win the Superbowl.


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[Assistant] I'm saying like, I'm saying like if you, if you added, I guess you technically could add, so you could have Jimmy G.


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[Assistant] That offensive line, Debo Samuel, Brandon Ayut, Christian McCaffrey, Jalen Waddle, Tyree Kill, and then Nick Bosa and Bradley Chubb rushing the passer. Like, I mean.


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[Assistant] I wanna, well, I guess we could change the order of things that we're gonna do.


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[Assistant] I don't know when I got cut off. It's just like Chrome just dies and I just disappear.


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[Assistant] NFL. So I think, I think that now Billy.


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[Assistant] And he's posted on Instagram, he's like, check me out on the Pixix pod when I talk about my Eagles every Sunday. That's fine.


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[Assistant] We might, we might, I have to trim back his airtime there, especially when people start complaining about how long the podcasts are. But.


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[Assistant] We were debating about whether the Bills or the Eagles are the best team in football. To me, it's easily, easily the Buffalo Bills.


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[Assistant] That you can use to give to players who are good and on your roster and who you drafted. Like why would you just not pay AJ Brown?


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[Assistant] I think five and a half is right. I guess the chiefs are bills.


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[Assistant] So the two seed, the number two seed in the AFC is a 12 and a half point underdog to the number three seed on the road in a, uh, a 20 Sunday night game. Now,


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[Assistant] That, I think that line probably presumes Malik Willis is starting. If you give me 12 and a half.


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[Assistant] He may have that, um, there's new strains of new dangerous and deadly strains of the flu running around Brady. He may have one of those.


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[Assistant] If you want the inside scoop on DK Metcalf's poop story, by the way, check out, uh, whatever K Adam's show is called. Um, anywho, moving on. The, it's, oh, it's a long story.


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[Assistant] Fourth best team in football. So we all agree that the Bills, the Chiefs and the Eagles are the three best teams in football. Like those are the only three teams I really trust.


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[Assistant] I think I would probably say the fourth best team. Okay.


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[Assistant] I'm getting blitzed by the sunlight. What is this? What is this weird bright?


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[Assistant] I don't know if that's it. Um, yeah, I think, I think Baltimore, Minnesota, San Francisco,


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[Assistant] I mean, we're now like segueing into like two of our topics that we're going to start off with, like Zach Wilson possibly being benched, which I think is the most, I don't want to say it's like outrageous. It's so stupid, right?


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[Assistant] Larry Wilson suggesting that like they should bench him next in two weeks.


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[Assistant] I don't understand why the Jets are like, no, no, no. We are a family. This is the Jets family. We handle this in-house. We deal with our problems.


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[Assistant] It's, it's crazy. It is asinine. And in like, and so like, here's the impetus for this is sort of that, like I think it was Brian Costello wrote in the New York Post, the Jets timeline and Zach Wilson's timeline are now different. And I'm not, I mean, I'm not disagreeing with him in the sense that, well, I am disagreeing with him. Actually, F that. Like,


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[Assistant] The, the, the argument is that the Jets, the Jets are like, oh, we were, we were, before this week, obviously five and two, now five and three. We're better than we thought we were. The AFC is kind of wide open. We need to make a playoff push right now.


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[Assistant] You make a playoff push with a questionable roster.


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[Assistant] And a team that's really luck boxed their way into several wins outside of the Packers victory in Green Bay, which we agreed that was a, that's the, remember we talked about this last week, all backup, all victories against backup quarterbacks except the Packers win.


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[Assistant] If you try to be like, well, we're all in now on 2022 screw Zach Wilson. That is so short-sighted. Your team is not going to win the super bowl. You're the third best team at best in your division. I don't care what the standing say. That's just where you are.


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[Assistant] And if you try to go all in on 2022 and cast Zach Wilson aside, you are misaligning your front office, your coaching staff, and your, your, your would be franchise quarterback. And that is how teams that are terrible stay terrible.


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[Assistant] It can be two and six easily. And you could have $3,000 in your pocket.


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure it's like Buffalo, New England.


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[Assistant] I'm sure Mike White or Joe Flacco will handle the bills and New England in, in, in Foxborough. I'm sure that will take care of everything that you need to work.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And if, and if you're, and if your answer to all your problems is Joe Flacco, you may have bigger problems than you think you have.


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[Assistant] Like if you're like, I know what'll solve everything, we'll start Joe Flacco. And I love Joe Flacco, but.


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[Assistant] I'm thinking about the, and we'll move on for the Jets in a second. I'm thinking about the line from, um, Ferris Bueller's day off.


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[Assistant] And Ed Rooney is like, he's like on the phone, he's like, he's like, he's told us that he's told us he's like, it's Bueller. And he's like, I'll tell you what.


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[Assistant] Let's just roll our old bones on over here and I'll dig up your daughter. You know, that's our school policy. And then it's like, it's like, it buzzes.


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[Assistant] Anyway, we'll take a break and we'll come back and we will answer the question we started the podcast with next.


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[Assistant] Uhm, okay, I've been asked this several times in the last, uh, few days, I guess, but why?


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[Assistant] Why don't people want to like or trust or get excited about the Vikings?


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[Assistant] He texted a separate thread that this is what I was going to say when I was rudely interrupting you as I tend to do often. Um, he was like,


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[Assistant] And so like, you should, so have you been like utilizing new, like individual, like, you should be, like, you needed to real fire the valley this week.


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[Assistant] At some point, like the final, final big new kickoff of the year, you should like name check Pete, but like call him by the wrong first name. Don't let's go.


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[Assistant] That's his brother's, Paul, I think. Uh, but you were like, or like, I don't know, or like, Pete Prisca, or like, just like, just like, like, purposely mispronounce his name.


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[Assistant] There are a lot of questions that one could ask about the nature of college football and who and why and who would be chosen for the college football playoff, which is featured on a particular network, which also owns another particular network, which is the SEC makes everybody the most money and they know


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[Assistant] Uhm, okay, my point was that the college fo- okay, I don't know why I'm acting like it's- the college football playoff is broadcast on ESPN.


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[Assistant] SEC teams being in the college football playoff is good for the SEC. Correct. It's good for the SEC network and it's good for ESPN.


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[Assistant] The college football playoff committee, which I'm sure is full of, uh, astute, totally awake people like my, my.


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[Assistant] Favorite athletic director, Boo Corrigan, uhm, are aware of this. I didn't really watch the ratings.


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[Assistant] He's awake. That's good to know. He's paying attention. Good to hear. Uhm, don't get me started.


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[Assistant] And Tennessee above TCU, what to your point, what they're saying is as long as you don't have a bad boss to you guys are in.


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[Assistant] Tennessee to lose to Georgia this week because you would not have to play Bama in the title game.


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[Assistant] Cause the loser of that title game is probably out.


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[Assistant] No, but I'm saying like, the, the person who, it's like when Ohio State went, when they didn't make the Big Ten title game.


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[Assistant] Right, right, but there wasn't a really good Tennessee team behind them in the division.


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[Assistant] Then this week is essentially assuming everybody takes care of business. This week is a basically like a play in game.


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[Assistant] By the way, you know the most depressing stat I saw about the college football playoff was? What's that? NC State is seventh in terms of consecutive weeks ranked by the college football playoff committee. And like we have.


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[Assistant] You know, let's move on to something else that's a little more palatable for my stomach on a Wednesday afternoon because I don't feel like vomiting all over this microphone and this, I mean, Carolina's going to ACC championship game and if they beat Clemson somehow they're going to be like, oh my God, I can't even think.


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[Assistant] Uh, could be. You want to? Sure. Why not? Let me read the actual quote.


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[Assistant] Anyway, here's the headline. Commanders Dan and Tonya Snyder hire Bank of America Securities to explore a potentially selling team. Brady, read between the lines.


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[Assistant] Find it for the love of the rough timeline for this. Um, Jim or say at the owners meetings, October 18th.


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[Assistant] That said, I believe there's merit to remove him as owner of the R-skins, which, great job, Arcee.


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[Assistant] Maybe, maybe, maybe focus a little more on learning what the team names are in your league and a little bit less on leaning up against trees with acoustic guitars.


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[Assistant] Ursay said on October 18th, that was basically the same time that the Seth Weger shade of Don Van Natta article came out claiming the, the, the stuff with the dirts and the private eyes, the fake mustaches and moustaches.


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[Assistant] You, like, peer over the newspaper with your fake mustache and your glasses, like, ha ha! Mwaha! Ha ha!


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[Assistant] That Dan Snyder came up with a statement was like, basically F your couch. I'm not selling this team. I don't care what you're trying to pull. I will never sell this team. This team will be sold over my tiny little stubborn, arrogant dead body.


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[Assistant] And now two weeks later, he's like, you know, I'm thinking I might look into selling. So the ring between the lines for me is like, what happened in those two weeks? Like it has to be something like somebody stepped forward in this investigation, this Mary Jo White thing, whatever it is. And they're like, so Dan, here's what we found. And he's like,


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[Assistant] You can't go from that extreme to...


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[Assistant] I don't like that name. Let's, let's change it. Uh, how about Washington football team? Just, just, just come up with something really fast. And then, and then we're going to do a year long probe into what we're looking at.


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[Assistant] It's incredible. This is incredible.


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[Assistant] What, why is it? What's his, uh, what's, what's, uh, is it Charlotte? What's old Charlotte dressed as? It doesn't look like anything. Anyway, moving on. God, this is a great costume. No. Okay. So chase Claypool was traded from the Steelers to the bears.


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[Assistant] I have like, I'm going to try and be, you know, I'm going to ask a direct question instead of asking like three questions, which I have in my head.


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[Assistant] How does, how does Chase Claypool fit in the Bears offense and within what Justin Fields does best and worst?


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[Assistant] So you're basically buying a used car for a new car price.


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[Assistant] Ryan Wilson was adamant yesterday on the trade deadline show. Wilson and Breach were both adamant that the Bears are not tanking.


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[Assistant] And that they are trying to make the playoffs this year, which I think is sounds like.


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[Assistant] Like if you say that to me, I feel like you sound like a crazy person.


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[Assistant] Outside, the off ball linebacker is lumped in with the edge rusher basically. Um, in terms of the linebacker price tag.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they haven't updated. They had a chance to update it with the newest CBA. Didn't bother.


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[Assistant] And it would make it way cheaper to keep linebackers if you, like off-ball linebackers if you wanted to.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I think exactly. I think, I think they probably looked at it and were like, all right, how many linebacker, how many off ball linebackers have been tagged in the last 10 years? They're like, none. Like we don't need to spend.


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[Assistant] 10 billable hours trying to figure this out, you know, and hash it out. Like, cause what it should have is like an edge designation.


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[Assistant] Cause you're like, there's just offensive line designation too. Like if you're a, you could be a left tackle, like a franchise left tackle or like a center and it's the same franchise tag. Right. So, um, I, I was going to say too.


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[Assistant] Do you, do you think ultimately that, um, if Ridley's reinstated that the, uh, the Falcons will be able to parlay this into a second pick or?


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[Assistant] That's what we in the business call teaser.


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[Assistant] We all were immensely disrespectful to Mike Vrabel and Ryan Tannehill and Derek Henry before the season.


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[Assistant] It feels like a Jimbo or say such a thing. Do we, do we, when did Matt Matt Ryan got benched? Do we, do we talk about this last week?


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[Assistant] I think so. I think Ursay is just on his back and on Chris Ballard's back.


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[Assistant] That, he is, he's, he's hammering these guys like, like they're like a, uh, uh, uh, that guy, I don't know guitar terminology. What's the, uh,


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[Assistant] He's hammering these guys like they're a whammy bar. Oh, I know, Michael Pittman by the way.


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[Assistant] Somebody, I saw somebody pointing this out. It's like, let's look at the wide receivers taking the second round from the last two years. Like, would you rather have these guys or chase Claypool? It's like, well, why don't we back that up two or three more years? Cause you can include DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, T Higgins, Michael Pittman. And I think you want all those guys over chase Claypool, right?


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[Assistant] Thank you. Yes. Shouldn't have been. Patriots should have taken him in the first round, but they didn't.


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[Assistant] Wait, wait, so this is like, this is like, this is like the, the secret plan that Howie Roseman hatched where he's like, I'm actually going to draft JJ or take a light side. And then once AJ Brown wants a new contract, I'm going to steal him and I'll have two. It's like, right, right. Like you should have just drafted AJ Brown.


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[Assistant] Okay, final question for you. This is a bit of an analogy. Just lean into it. Play along with me.


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[Assistant] Let's say that the Buffalo Bills are the equivalent of an NC state education.


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[Assistant] Dolphins in this analogy are a Notre Dame education. How much closer is this worthless Catholic diploma to a high valued tobacco road?


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[Assistant] How much closer does Bradley Chubb make the Dolphins to the Bills?


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[Assistant] Buffalo. Oh, they've got to go to Los Angeles. Terrible weather there.


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[Assistant] New England. Okay. For real though, they have Chicago.


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[Assistant] That's, that's a fair point because he was sort of, I think.


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[Assistant] Like maybe dismissed a little bit in the sense that, you know, Steven Ross.


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[Assistant] There's also like a Tyreek Hill FU factor to Kansas City too, I feel like. And Kansas City's trying to F you back to Tyreek at the same time. They're like, no, we don't need Tyreek. And Tyreek's like, I don't need you. I'm lighting up the NFL.


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[Assistant] But like, so the biggest thing that drives me nuts about 17 is like,


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[Assistant] You're just doing it on the way to 18. Like you know you're going to 18, so just go to 18.


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[Assistant] I forgot about my ranting against 17, but like 17 is like one of my favorite numbers.


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[Assistant] I sort of wonder if it's like, okay, we really like James Cook.


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[Assistant] Good, you know, like, we think he's gonna become a good player, but the, but we, the, the bills are, the bills are...


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[Assistant] The bills are like a, uh, a very high end luxury automobile, right? You have everything you need. Yeah. So if you're adding like, you're like, but do you know what would be nice? That sun roof.


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[Assistant] How did you find it? Did somebody send that to you? And like you clicked it and you're like, John Breach wrote this about like, like basically put me in, in, in, in 2015.


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[Assistant] Um, so I've definitely like kind of, I haven't like searched like.


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[Assistant] articles I've written about you, but like I've done a cursory glance just to make sure that I didn't, please don't look it up.


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[Assistant] Right. No, I was making, I was like worried that like I, so Ryan Wilson, Wilson was talking about this and like, he's like, yeah, I definitely wrote about like Brady's draft day on fan house, the old place, but like fan house


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[Assistant] About like, eh, he started a blog called Socks SteelersHeels.blogspot.com


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[Assistant] So, like, Breach's thing wasn't bad though, like, it's more of the guy. But I would, I was always worried that, like, I was like...


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[Assistant] I mean, technically we could probably sue him for, uh, government, governmental waste.


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[Assistant] Walking around Disney World as a 50 year old man by yourself.


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[Assistant] He, he was talking about and he didn't say anything bad about you, but like.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna, I'm gonna look, I'm gonna try and find something that he said. I'm just gonna find something he wrote about you.


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[Assistant] Uhm, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. For Brady, I'm Brinson. See you guys later.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I actually think I agree with the sports book and Brenton. The 49ers just, it looked like,


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[Assistant] But not, he was not practicing with the team, is the point. Oh, okay. In, in July, in August, cause they were so sure, uh, that he just wasn't gonna be a part of this, that Trey Lance was the starter, uhm, that he was gonna be traded. Maybe he gets traded before the season.


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[Assistant] And so it didn't really feel like this 49ers team really gelled with Garoppolo until you started to get to.


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[Assistant] Uh, midway through the season and this felt like a trust game where Kyle Shanahan was like, you know, I'm just gonna let Jimmy unload it. Cause I think we can beat the Cardinals even if he throws three interceptions, the Cardinals still have a great defense, got their backup quarterback in there.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna see what happens. I need to know if I can trust Jimmy. He uncorks Jimmy. Jimmy comes through with this 4 touchdown game where he looked really good.


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[Assistant] Well, I think that Shanahan has more weapons at his disposal. Yes, I know what the Eagles have, Devontae Smith, AJ Bram, but when you're talking about George Kittle.


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[Assistant] Alright, I'm not, I wanna get breached, I know how you feel about it. Yes, that, yeah, exactly. And so, you know, you give the Eagles an advantage, the, uh, thump, the advantage of quarterback, but I don't think Jalen Hurts is enough better than Jimmy Garoppolo to make up for the weapons that the 49ers have.


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[Assistant] Okay, well let me just say that putting up 38 points on anyone in the NFL is impressive.


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[Assistant] I will take, I know it's not a draft, we're trying to see how far the contenders go. So Brittany you have the Eagles, Wilson has the 49ers, uh, I'll go with the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] I want a first year starter to come in and take a team to the Super Bowl. Russell Wilson? No, I didn't go to the Super Bowl in the first year, sorry. Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] See, here's my problem with Minnesota, because that's probably the one that most people are wondering why we wouldn't have them there, is that I would have a tough time seeing them beat the Eagles, I'd have a tough time seeing them beat the 49ers, I'd even have a tough time seeing them beat Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. Obviously we saw what just happened with the Cowboys on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Uh, and you know, like, the Giants are the only team I think I would


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[Assistant] Minnesota to beat out of the current seven teams that are in the NFC playoffs as far as the playoff picture right now.


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[Assistant] And another thing about the Vikings, they've only played what? Two of the seven teams in the playoff picture and they lost by 17 and 37. So.


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[Assistant] You know, the one thing in everyone's point about the 49ers is that they have only beaten one team this year that currently has.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, so there are question marks about how are they going to play when they actually play against good teams.


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[Assistant] They still have a game against the Dolphins, a game against the Buccaneers, they still have another game against the Seahawks, they play the commanders, uh, so they have a few games left against good teams.


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[Assistant] Uh, that was a game that I was stunned that got to overtime because the 49ers dominated it for about three quarters and then Joe Burrow turned up the magic and took it to overtime.


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[Assistant] Oh, Saturday at 4.30. Oh, Saturday at 4.30 Prime. Oh, no, Saturday at 1. No, no, Saturday at 4.30. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And, uh, for you Vikings fans out there who are praying to get that one o'clock game, uh, they switched the division around schedule a couple years ago. There was literally only one, a single 1 p.m. game in the entire postseason now. And that is the Sunday afternoon wild card game. That's it.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'll give Brynston the benefit of the doubt there because at the end of the first quarter it was like, holy crap, Colt McCoy has the Cardinals offense moving.


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[Assistant] Uh, the 49ers couldn't do anything. They partnered on their first two possessions. And it was literally like, oh my god, Arizona has to win this to save their season. If Kliff Kingsbury somehow pulls a rabbit out of his hat with Colt McCoy as his starting quarterback, like these are all my thoughts at the end of the first quarter.


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[Assistant] The contract doesn't say if Kingsbury gets fired, then Kyler gets all his money. You know, they're not like directly tied. They're all going to be together.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I think it's tough on him because it feels like he's not sure what to do with Kyler Murray because you have, you have this quarterback who wants to run around everywhere and be Lamar Jackson or Justin Fields.


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[Assistant] Justin Fields is like 6'3", Lamar Jackson 6'2", Josh Allen 6'5". These quarterbacks who like to run are big guys. Kyler Murray is 5'10", and probably doesn't weigh as much as me, so you cannot be taking


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[Assistant] Well, right, but I think that Cliff thought it could work. And now that we're this far in and he has seen that, Hey, look, this guy's getting hurt every year because his style of play with his size isn't sustainable. Well, my follow up question, sir, is why did you give him a new contract?


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[Assistant] Hi from sweet, sweet city of Louisville, Kentucky.


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[Assistant] Here at the, uh, shout out to the AC Hotel down in Nulu. Joining me to break down week 11. Ryan Wilson and John Breach. I'm sure, gentlemen.


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[Assistant] Also shout out to Ryan Wilson, decked out, head to toe right now in USA Soccer Gear. This is not a soccer podcast, of course. It's about real football, but we are all ready for America, two o'clock tomorrow, Tuesday, excuse me, Monday afternoon. Wilson, what's your official prognostication of USA Soccer's chances in the World Cup?


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[Assistant] I love it. My 10 second take is I would go, I would fly to Pittsburgh right now, pick up that Canada and drive him back to Raleigh.


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[Assistant] To let him replace Tim Beck. That's how bad things have gotten in NC State. That's how terrible our football team is. That I want Matt Canada back in Raleigh. Let's talk football instead because no one gives a crap. Go Tar Heels. There it is. I hate everything. Actually, if there's a, you know, Chargers Chiefs, thrilling game on Sunday night. The Chargers tried to charger. The Chiefs tried to give it right back to him.