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[Assistant] Thing like does this draft class equate to filling out the what the Giants wide receiver depth chart if they do believe in one Dale Robinson. You know what I mean? Like a lot of these guys are smaller slot guys. It makes a lot of sense that they would take a wide receiver. I think you could still make the case that they this is a team that.


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[Assistant] Run by guys who came from Buffalo and in Buffalo we saw they really build out the offensive line and they did want to get an alpha wide receiver and Stefan Diggs for Josh Allen there. And I think this is that's something that the Giants definitely want to do, but they focus on the defensive line or the offensive line. Excuse me. And then, you know, you have still plenty of holes on that defense.


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[Assistant] Defensive back at two to one is something I would probably look at over wide receiver, and I would definitely consider offensive lineman at seven to one. I think it's possible that they understand how important it is to protect Daniel Jones, how important it is to have that run game with Saquon Barkley, and he's going to sign his tag and show up at some point. So to me, seven to one for offensive lineman.


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[Assistant] Is probably the best value there given that again, this is a weird draft class.


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[Assistant] Maybe we see a guy who's got some versatility who could play guard or play right tackle. Um, we're actually gonna deal with right tackle and Thomas at left tackle, but like just somebody who can like, can if let's say,


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[Assistant] Thomas or Neil gets hurt. Is there a guy like Peter Skowronski won't be there, but he can play tackle, can play guard. Somebody who has some malleability, some versatility at offensive line that could fill in as a swing tackle if they need him to. They hope they don't, but can also maybe develop into a really good guard. So I think I would look at offensive line as some value there at seven to one for the Giants.


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[Assistant] And maybe defensive back as well. Wide receiver, certainly the favorite for obvious reasons, but I just don't know that the draft class fits their needs.


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[Assistant] No, uh, Jackson Smith in Jigbo is the favorite, I think, at minus 110 or something like that.


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[Assistant] Brenton's on mute. I'm muted. My bad. When you see the Ravens give Odo Beckham $15 million and then he facetimes Lamar Jackson and we're like, Oh, like all of a sudden, you know, the Ravens odds move and the over eight and a half jumps from one 25 minus one 25 to minus one 40 probably creeps up to nine in a little bit. The Ravens odd shrink to win the division because everyone thinks that Lamar is coming back. It does seem.


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[Assistant] Like safe to say that if Lamar is facetiming or .com and


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[Assistant] You know, reportedly, as Breach wrote on, uh, on cbsports.com, you know, helping to recruit Odell Beckham to the Ravens, that Baltimore is doing its best to at least try and band-aid the situation by getting Lamar Jackson some help, showing them that they appreciate who he is as a quarterback and as a player and a person and to bring in receivers to beef up that offense.


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[Assistant] Even if like, even if it's just sort of like, hey, just sign your tag and play this year, we'll figure it out after the season. Like it makes a lot of sense that they would go wide receiver. So at plus 160 with all the wide receivers they have, like all the wide receivers available, like again, like a Josh Downs type is would be really interesting.


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[Assistant] You know, you get it to him underneath, you know, and like let him, let him work and maybe not in that offense in particular. We don't know what it's going to look like when Todd Monk takes over. I just think wide receiver is just an easy one to look at, but definitely defensive back deserves to be the favorite given their needs at quarterback.


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[Assistant] Again, like there's so much variance with this draft in this first round that I think it's very reasonable to suggest that if you see some value to like a possible position of need,


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[Assistant] Like at five, five to one or more, I mean, you should absolutely consider looking at it.


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[Assistant] I'm trying not to laugh at it because it's like, in the past-


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[Assistant] That's, I, I don't entirely disagree. And let's not forget that Jonah Williams, their 2019 first round pick.


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[Assistant] Reportly or just openly requested a trade. So offensive lineman at plus 375 for a bingo scene that poured a ton of money into Orlando Brown knows they need help for Joe burrow. Like offensive lineman makes a lot of sense. It is good value here at plus 375.


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[Assistant] 99.9% of all mocks out there are going to have him either go to Washington or for just cause Washington needs a defensive back and he's just like kind of fits the time frame or to Pittsburgh because of the obvious Joey Porter connections. Uhm, I do think, you know, you draft Kenny Pickett, can it pick it?


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[Assistant] Last year in the first round, uhm, by the way, I'm told reliably that's been, uh, stolen from me after I stole it from Wilson and used around the internet. So congrats, Wilson. You're like the slanket of the, uh, of the internet. I'm the snuggie, of course, and I get all the credit and all the money.


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[Assistant] That that's right. Yeah, you did a great job in 2000. Congratulations. Uhm, I think offensive lineman like helping out Kenny Pickett makes a ton of sense, but I mean, I don't hate defensive back and even money breach.


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[Assistant] I mean, I, they obviously, you know, side, Allen's are beside Michael Harbin. They traded away Elijah Moore and Corey Davis. I still think is a possible cap. Casually Denzel Mims of 2020, 2020 second round pick hadn't exactly panned out. I don't think it's outrageous to suggest that they'll bring another wide receiver. It may just end up being, um, you know, Randall Cobb because Aaron Rodgers wants to get his friends paid. I will say this.


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[Assistant] We're all assuming that Aaron Rogers is going to go to the Jets. I'm not. I'm not either.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a Wilson joke. Quarterback at 40 to one. Like.


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[Assistant] I mean, they drafted Elijah Vera Tucker. They drafted Max Mitchell in the fourth round last year. You have Makai Becht and you still hope that he works out. I mean. Yeah, but.


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[Assistant] I mean, I would want to be sprinkling, I mean, even defensive back, like I know that they, you know, they have sauce. Of course they brought a DJ Reed. You got Chuck Clark on the back end and like it's unlikely they dropped a defensive back, but I don't think it's insane. I mean, just given like Robert's all this history and knowing that, you know, like I think defensive back at 20 to one.


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[Assistant] And quarterback at 40 to 1 would intrigue me here, as well as wide receiver at 14 to 1. Do not spend minus 300. I mean, lay 300 bucks and what 100 on offensive lineman. That's outrageous.


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[Assistant] Tight end at 30 to 1. You have Tyler Conklin there. If you had a Michael Mayer out of Notre Dame, the tight end at Notre Dame. And let's say you were like, okay, we kind of like our offensive lineman. We still hope Mackay Beckton works.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, you could get a really a good run blocking tight end like a Michael Mayer at 13 who could also catch passes and that serves as a, okay, this helps Aaron Rodgers if we get him or if we don't get Aaron Rodgers, it'll improve our offensive line is sort of a.


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[Assistant] Uh, like a, like an add-on, right? So I would, I think I'd sprinkle all four of those, like 14, 20, 30 and 40.


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[Assistant] You know what, since Brady asked the question, I'm gonna hit Brady with a tag.


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[Assistant] Uh, not exclusive. That way, Fox can call me and I can, you know, negotiate against them.


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[Assistant] So any team out there can throw a contract, throw an offer sheet at Lamar and try to sign him between now and July 17th. The Ravens can also negotiate that long-term deal between now and July 17th. If something doesn't get done by then, then he can only play for the Ravens and he has till the Tuesday after week 10 to sign that


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[Assistant] Well, and we all saw how that worked out for him, uh, not well, so I'm guessing that Lamarr looking at that is thinking, alright, well, we don't want to take it that far. And one thing I will say, I wasn't really thinking about the commanders as a landing spot, but Brandy mentioning them is really fascinating.


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[Assistant] Because look, if you're Dan Snyder and you realize all the other owners hate you, what would be the biggest F you than handing out a fully guaranteed contract that the owners don't want to give out?


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[Assistant] Then selling the team like a week later and saying, all right, peace out. Have fun with that $270 million contract that I just gave.


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[Assistant] Uh, Lamar Jackson and I don't have to pay any of it because somebody else is buying the team that's on Jeff Bezos now or whoever else is buying the team from me. So that would be pretty wild if Snyder went out like that and the Falcons, like you guys said, seemed like the obvious spot and for them to already be out on this. I mean, the thing is.


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[Assistant] Things could change after the draft. If they're going after a quarterback in the draft, they don't get the guy they want or they don't want to trade up and you find yourself on May 1st in a situation where you still need a quarterback and the Ravens haven't worked out a deal with Lamar Jackson yet, then boom, then you start talking to them then. So maybe they're out on him today. Maybe they're not after the draft, uh, but it does seem like


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[Assistant] Well, I think the flip side though, real quick, is that if he is only willing to sign a fully guaranteed deal, then you don't need an agent. Cause all your agent's gonna say is, he wants a fully guaranteed deal. You know, there's no push or shove there.


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[Assistant] This is worse, because this is basically the Ravens playing chicken, but them feeling like


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[Assistant] Right, July 17th, that any other team can send that offer sheet in, and then, you know, the later it is, the end of the 16th, the Ravens have to turn around quickly, decide if they're going to match it, uh, and then obviously if they don't, the Ravens get the two first round picks. So July 17th.


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[Assistant] I always said he didn't need one if he is dead set on getting a fully guaranteed deal where there's nothing to go. Hey, don't call me unless your offer is fully guaranteed. In that case, he doesn't need one. Every other case he does.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that's the thing, is you have to have one of these franchise quarterbacks. We talk about it all the time, whether it's Patrick Rahams, Joe Burrow, you have to have.


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[Assistant] The, the creme de la creme, the top tier if you want to win a Super Bowl, and I think we can all agree that Daniel Jones is not that. As a matter of fact, if you ask me if I would rather have Derek Carr in his contract or Daniel Jones in his contract,


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[Assistant] I would pick Derek Carr. Absolutely. You're getting a slightly lower price, I think, and a slightly better value. And so it's almost like.


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[Assistant] That they gave him this contract. I would have hit him with the franchise tag. You let Saquon Barkley walk as Brady mentioned, but there were so you could go out and sign.


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[Assistant] For me, it's Josh Jacobs. Easy. It's just because


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[Assistant] Uh, a great quarterback in there, then you need a good running back. And so I do think that he's going to play a big part in the Raiders offense this season, just like he did last season. And I don't think some of the Raiders could afford to lose. So I think out of those guys, uh, that, that Jacobs is probably the one closest worth to the number he's getting.


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[Assistant] Well, and think of this team right now, according to over the cap is $16 million over the cap. They have to get under it by March 15th and they have $26 million committed to two running backs. This is the cap number for the, uh, for Tony Ballard and Zeke Elliott combined. So that is just


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[Assistant] That's no guaranteed money left. You can't- It's like, it's 4.86 million.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, that's the lottery. No, you can't count on that. I think that, I think it feels like at five, you're sitting there and you're thinking, all right, you have...


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[Assistant] At least three quarterbacks there. And if one of them falls in our lap, we can take them. And if not, we can trade out as Brady mentioned, or you stick there and take a defensive guy as Brenton mentioned.


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[Assistant] They're just in a good spot where if you want to take a quarterback, if the guy you like falls to you, you take him. And if he doesn't, then you go on, you have Gino for this year and maybe you draft a quarterback next year. So I think this contract.


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[Assistant] Which really, I think the way it's broken down, it kind of locks Geno to the C Oxford.


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[Assistant] At least two years. Uh, and that's it. So then you can draft a quarterback next year if you want. So there's no pressure to do it this year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that's why I thought the Daniel Jones contract might look something like this, cause he might be a little thankful that, hey, look, I was not very good in the NFL for three, three years and then Brian Dable shows up and I have a great season. And now I'm not going to ask for $40 million a year because that would be ridiculous.


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[Assistant] Probably both won with this deal since Seox didn't have to overpay and Gino's got a starting job lined up next season.


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[Assistant] Right, but it's one thing to have rookies in the secondary or young guys, but another thing on the offensive line. I mean, look, I don't know if you remember this.


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[Assistant] Well, I will just say real quick that I vividly remember Super Bowl 55 when the Chiefs had a horrible offensive line. And what happened in that game is that Patrick Mahomes got destroyed. And if you don't have enough time to get off your pants, it doesn't matter how good your.


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[Assistant] Real quick, one crazy thing is this means that there's gonna be some big time left tackles down the market, whether it's Orlando Brown, Donovan Smith. We don't see big time left tackles hit free agency too often and you're talking about two, at least two in one off season.


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[Assistant] And real quick, the Eagles obviously have a ton of free agents, but it isn't surprising just because their track record of using the franchise tag is that they don't use it. They haven't used it since 2012.


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[Assistant] I think the franchise tag has been in the collective bargaining agreement since 1994 and the Eagles have only used it five times total. So this is a team that shies away from the franchise tag. They don't like to use it unless it's absolutely necessary. So not a total surprise that they decided to sit this one out.


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[Assistant] I think the, I think the issue is that, um, QB situation. Cause you don't know when Kyle Murray is going to be back. He might not be back till October, you know? So you're sitting there trying to figure out who's going to be the starter, what that team is going to look like. I mean, those are long, extremely long odds.


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[Assistant] Considering you don't know that in March, I think the Seahawks was a little more wild there because you have a playoff team, nine wins last year, five to one. And the Niners, it's not like, you know, the nine and the


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[Assistant] Odds makers are assuming the Jets are going to have any upgrade at quarterback. Cause look, they won seven games. They won seven and ten with Zach Wilson, which is a miracle if you think about it. And so if you upgrade at all, you're looking at maybe getting eight or nine wins, making Aaron Rodgers 10, 11, 12. So who knows? So yeah, I feel like the Jets.


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[Assistant] And it really comes down to how you feel about the Sean Watson, because if you like him, obviously looked absolutely horrible in six games last year, then the Browns feel like maybe a sneaky good bet. Uh, and also the Bengals have struggled against divisional opponents. They are seven and five over the past two seasons when they won the division. So they still struggle against those teams.


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[Assistant] I mean, again, that's a team that won eight games with, uh, not very good quarterback play. So if you just get a slight upgrade, maybe they can, I feel like that number's at least sprinkle and as Brinson loves to say, sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And you know, it is a little surprising to see the Broncos. Again, that's the mystery, Sean Payne and Russell Wilson, but like Freddie said, tag means nothing for the Raiders. You don't know who their quarterback is going to be. I don't think you can bet on them.


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[Assistant] Hello and welcome to the Pick Six Podcast. Happy Monday. I am Katie Mox, joined here by Will Brinson and Chris Tripazo, NFL draft writer and analyst for CBS Sports.


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[Assistant] Sorry guys, we're running a little bit late today, but we got caught up talking about the Murdaugh trial and other trials that have happened, uh, or murders rather, that Will is very familiar with in his neck of the woods. But fellas, how we doing?


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[Assistant] I'm worried about you, Will, falling into the trap here.


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[Assistant] But until that day, let's dig into the past four days of prospect workouts for the combine in Indianapolis. Alright guys, we'll start with the biggest one. Like what is the biggest storyline coming out of the combine? What do you think, Will?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree with you and I think he obviously has the biggest buzz of any prospect due to his like outworldly athletic gifts, but


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[Assistant] Like he looked more receiver like 4.39 for the 40 yard dash, 41 inch vertical leap. You know, his frame is small. So when he first came out, it seemed like maybe he wasn't going to do that well. And I don't think he's going to be a fit for every team, but now I can kind of see him going maybe top 25.


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[Assistant] Couldn't agree more. I will have to say one guy from the chat, Ty Joseph, are we worried that Brinson will be the victim or the culprit in the next Carolina murder?


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[Assistant] I think it's 50-50 and I think for you to be the victim though, I mean, we all saw you run without wearing shoes on the last podcast. So I think it depends on if you're wearing shoes or not, whether you fall victim.


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[Assistant] It is, and I'm actually proud of that as well. Okay, so let's get back to the draft. Who do you guys think helped their draft stock the most?


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[Assistant] Alright, so that's, that's the wide receivers. I actually was looking at the running backs and I think that Chase Brown out of Illinois kind of surprised me. He ran a 4.43, 40-yard dash, which is actually faster than I thought he would go. He led all combine running backs with a 40, with his 40-inch vertical and 10.7, excuse me, 10 foot 7, uh, broad jump.


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[Assistant] He was pretty solid during drills. Traps, I would like to know what you think about this because I think that his speed and his shiftiness could lead him to be picked on day two of the draft. What did you think of him?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you, you perked up my interest when you said Kyle Shanahan. Do you think that he would be a good fit for the Niners? We always need running backs over here in San Francisco.


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[Assistant] All right, we are back here. Katie Mox, Will Brinson, and Traps, as I just learned that your nickname is here. Will gave me that one last year.


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[Assistant] It's actually my, it's actually my fault because when I, when I first started at sports line and Will came on as an analyst,


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, and it works now. Kelly, Kelly and Brian.


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[Assistant] Did y'all ever watch the, the very first season of, uhm, not The Voice. What was the very first one? America, no, not America's Got Talent. What is the first singing competition? The very first one.


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[Assistant] American Idol. Yes, American Idol. The first one, I think it was, uh, Kelly, whatever one, and they had that mo- I don't know why I'm getting into this, but that movie that was like from Justin to Kelly, I kind of feel like that's a from-


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[Assistant] Alright, well from Fantasia back to the draft, who do you guys think hurt their draft stock the most? Start with you Tarps.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know if it's because I'm just a 49ers fan, so I'm just zeroing in on all of the running backs here, but Tank Bigsby out of Auburn.


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[Assistant] I feel like he kinda disappointed and maybe his, his stock, uh,


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[Assistant] 5, 6, 40, 32 and a half vertical jump, 9, 11 broad jump. I just feel like he didn't stand out like he needed to. What do you think?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean, for me, yeaah, I would agree with you on that one, but I didn't really look too much into it, so let's try traps.


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[Assistant] And Thomas Scott said that his was levis. He did disappoint, but he was just meh. Anthony Richardson took all his momentum.


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[Assistant] Alright guy, anyone else we want to weigh in that stock down or should we take a quick break?


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[Assistant] Alright, we've covered it, which means we're taking a quick break. You're watching the Pick 6 Podcast. We'll be right back.


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[Assistant] All right. Welcome back to the pick six podcast. We are talking or recapping the NFL combine. Now let's talk quarterbacks. Traps, who is your number one quarterback and why?


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, I mean especially when you look at people like Kyler Murray and he's got a problem with that too. I agree with, uh,


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[Assistant] Traps here with CJ Stroud out of Ohio State, and I hear you will because they haven't really translated out of Ohio into the league, but I was reading a quote. CJ Stroud tells his critics, I've been the best player in college football. I don't know about all that though.


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[Assistant] Alright, Dom in the chat says, although I like Stroud because he grew up living at a public, living at a public, his sorry public storage with his mom. Okay, I don't know what we're talking about there, Dominic. We'll go ahead and skip that one. Who are the sleepers that we should keep an eye on heading into pro days and the rest of the draft process?


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[Assistant] Tarps, I'm also curious what you think, uh, and we talked about this last week, but obviously you weren't on the show. What do you think of Jalen Carter now and his, and how he's going to do with the draft?


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, Thomas Scott has a hot take. Nolan Smith, greater than Jalen Carter. I love this because he's one of my favorite storylines coming out of the combine. But what do y'all think? Uhm, uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Billy just put in the chat, would you draft Jalen Carter in the first round? Traps, would you?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Al Bundy in the chat said he should be drafted by anyone if Anderson is gone. Which is pretty much where y'all are at too.


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[Assistant] Alright, this is going to conclude our recap of The Combine. Thank you so much for watching the Pick 6 Podcast. I'm Katie Mox, here with Will Brinson and Chris Tripazo, not with a Z. Sometimes people pronounce his name wrong. We'll see you next time.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think that's right. I mean, that's the biggest storyline to take away from Indie. That going in...


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[Assistant] People like myself that are more kind of focused on the draft thought, okay, Anthony Richardson is going to work out well, but we didn't expect him to be 6'4, 244 and then break combine records. Like we'll just mentioned the highest vertical, longest broad jump of any quarterback.


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[Assistant] He's kind of like a Cam Newton prospect, but I think he's twitchier and more sudden than Cam Newton was. Cam Newton was a, you know, similarly experienced, only one full season at Auburn. We really only got one full season of Anthony Richardson as the starter at Florida.


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[Assistant] Maybe a little more scattershot than Cam Newton was and wasn't as successful team wise, of course. Um, but I think with his performance coupled with


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[Assistant] Bryce Young not working out, although I think it was good that he was over 200 pounds. It was just kind of.


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[Assistant] It's like, do you want the high floor kind of outlier type at quarterback with Bryce Young, who's going to be good right away, but maybe doesn't have the big time physical traits or will a team like the Panthers, Will's Panthers or the Colts or the Texans, or maybe even a team trading into the number one spot.


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[Assistant] Side with Anthony Richardson and just bet on that upside like we've seen at the quarterback spot with Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. Uhm, a lot of other quarterbacks that are big, have huge arms and the supreme athleticism like Anthony Richardson.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that is in the cards, uh, probably even the first half of round one. Um, Hassan Reddick in terms of his size is, is kind of a comparable.


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[Assistant] I've kind of tested pretty similarly. Like you mentioned, Katie, a lot of teams are going to say, Hey, look, we want our edge rushers at least six three and over 250 pounds. Nolan Smith is not that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, slightly different size. He kind of res- like his whole college career reminds me of Rashaan Gehry coming out of Michigan. That he was like someone that was crazy athletic, didn't have all the polished pass rushing moves.


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[Assistant] Clearly was a developmental type player, still won in the first round of the Packers, and it took a year or two for him to really come into his own.


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[Assistant] But before his injury this past season, he was looking like one of the best young outside pass rushers in the NFL. And I think that's what teams will kind of aim for. It's kind of a similar parallel to Anthony Richardson, to Josh Allen. They'll kind of do the same with Nolan Smith to someone like Hassan Reddick or Rashawn Gehry.


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[Assistant] I can start. I'll go with Jacorian Bennett, which to a lot of listeners and viewers are going to say, who the hell is that? That's the point. Because he came in as kind of the other Maryland cornerback, Deontay Banks.


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[Assistant] Over six foot, over 200 pounds ran in the mid four threes. Everyone's like, okay, this guy's going to go in the first round. Then his teammates, according Bennett that played inside and out a little bit more in the slot. He made some plays. That's not really where Deontay Banks thrived at Maryland. He runs four three Oh.


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[Assistant] Has a broad jump over 11 feet, which is with just a few inches below Deontay Banks, big time vertical over 40 inches. And I think for kind of being in the shadows of Deontay Banks, I don't really think that's the case anymore for Jacory and Bennett. Now.


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[Assistant] I do think Deontay Banks will ultimately get picked, maybe even a round or two ahead of Jacory and Bennett.


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[Assistant] Because of his versatility at 511, 188 pounds with what we know now is elite explosiveness and high end speed, like one of the fastest forties that we saw of anyone run at the combat. I think I want to say the second fastest.


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[Assistant] Um, now second or third round is not out of the equation for Jacory and Bennett. I liked his ball skills on film too. Um, and Maryland has a long history of just pumping out big time athletes. Um, so Jacory and Bennett kind of came in somewhat of an obscure prospect with a bigger name teammate at the same position. And I don't really think that's the case anymore.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think he could be one of the last picks in the first round. That wouldn't be crazy.


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[Assistant] What I was saying earlier that it didn't really live up to the hype. I mean, we've kind of gone in like understanding that this is not a Jamar Chase, Drake London, Garrett Wilson type class, but Jalen Hyatt was supposed to run crazy fast. He runs four, four flat at like 170 plus pounds.


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[Assistant] In the 40 yard dash and that is certainly a position where you are going to run 40 yards down the field as fast as you can at receiver. So for Josh Downs to be near the top of the vertical.


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[Assistant] Probably more so about traits than if you're actually a really good football player. Whether it comes to quarterback like we've been talking about. Travon Walker being the number one overall pick last year. It's a lot about traits. And with Jalen Hyatt not running as fast, we didn't see Quinton Johnson run the 40.


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[Assistant] Josh Jones, Jackson Smith, Najig, but did a great job.


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[Assistant] A lot for themselves. They came in kinda presumed to be not that explosive, but they ultimately were.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean to have that kind of workout, he and his brother Sydney Brown, the safety from Illinois had like almost identical workouts. It was pretty crazy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Chase Brown on film is a really good player. He's been a.


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[Assistant] When they do hand them the ball, they want them to be able to hit those big plays. We always hear about your ability to catch the ball. That certainly matters.


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[Assistant] You know, did they run into zone blocking scheme, whatever, but teams are prioritizing speed more. So that is going to bode well for Chase Brown. If he's a third round pick, I won't be surprised at all.


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[Assistant] Um, it wouldn't shock me if they go back to the running back well, cause I think he just loves the running back position and gets kind of enamored with those speed guys, which certainly chase Brown would check that box.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, like I said earlier, 511 173. So when we all saw that in Indy, we're like, oh, he's going to run crazy fast, solidify himself as wide receiver one.


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[Assistant] Runs 449, one of the lowest broad jumps, one of the lowest verticals, um, among the wide receivers. I think at this point, and again, this is kind of the craziness and the impact that the combine can have. We're probably talking about Jordan Anderson more.


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[Assistant] One of the last picks, maybe from 25 to 32 in that range when again, a week ago it was like, like I mocked him to the Houston Texans at 12 a lot and Texans fans loved that. Like it seemed like an obvious selection.


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[Assistant] I remember being on this show back in 2018, Will, and I put up a big red flag for Calvin Ridley because I was like, this guy's older, he's small, he's light, he didn't work out well. I was wrong about that one because Calvin Ridley ultimately became a pretty good receiver. I mean, he certainly got to start his career with Julio Jones there in Atlanta, but


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[Assistant] What made me think about, hey, like there are some comparisons between Jordan Addison's game and Calvin Ridley's game. We're just looking at the draft.


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[Assistant] There are other guys that are similar size that didn't test very well that haven't been good, like Jalen Rager.


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[Assistant] Uhm, like Nelson Aguilar who's, you know, been decent, but I think teams that are drafting Jordan Anderson want more than Nelson Aguilar.


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[Assistant] Early second round picks like Marquis Lee, Andy Isabella, Dante Pettis. So for every like miss with a Kelvin Ridley, that's just not a high level athlete at that size. There's a bunch of misses.


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[Assistant] So Jordan Addison to me, Kayshon Butte, also from LSU, another bigger name wide receiver that just did not test well. And teams want to see big testing numbers in the first round.


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[Assistant] Yeah, definitely. I think with Bigsby, that was the name of the game with him on the field is his explosiveness and how we can hit some of those big plays. Uhm, so I'm certainly, you know, thinking that some scouts will say,


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[Assistant] Look, I'm just gonna lean on the film and, and I saw him run away from some people in the SEC. Others will say, well, yeah, four, five, six, uh, lower vertical, lower broad jump. That's not going to tick the box in the middle of the draft. And Katie, you're right. This draft and to me, almost every draft.


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[Assistant] Has a litany of just quality running backs, big time talents, rounds three, four, five. If the blocking is good, they can be solid contributors at the next level.


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[Assistant] To me, like, I don't blame him for doing it because his two years of film at Alabama were so good.


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[Assistant] But CJ Stroud had really good film at Ohio State too, and he decided to show off his accuracy. And if you're Bryce Young, he could have said, all right, I'm not going to run the 40. I'm not going to, you know, try to stack up with Anthony Richardson or even Will Levis's athleticism, but I'm going to be like,


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[Assistant] CJ Strout said a ball placement specialist and just throw perfect strikes in the throwing sessions. No one would have, you know, totally bashed his stock if he didn't throw well, but I think he would have. So sitting out, I get it, but he did not.


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[Assistant] Necessarily help himself as much as I think the 204 at the beginning of the week may be indicated because everyone around him, the two marquee names, Stroud and Richardson, balled out in Indy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a good point, especially with Will Levis during the podium session, which I don't blame these guys for being confident. Will Levis said that I have the strongest arm to enter the NFL in a long time and then.


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[Assistant] I didn't think it was, yeaah, it was good, but I think Richardson was more effortless.


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[Assistant] It's CJ Stroud, I mean everyone thinks that it's Anthony Richardson because I put him at number one in my mock before the combine because I thought he was going to, you know, test really well and there's always that riser. But it's actually Stroud because I think he gives you the best of both worlds in that


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[Assistant] He has the pocket passing of Bryce Young. He's not quite as creative as Bryce Young, not as athletic as Anthony Richardson.


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[Assistant] But the ability to thread the needle through tight windows, I think he does that a little better than any of the quarterbacks in this class.


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[Assistant] Two years, a lot of big games. That Georgia game did have an impact on me that he was able to show his ability.


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[Assistant] He's not going to run away from a ton of people, but I don't think Patrick Mahomes or even Justin Herbert, like, are crazy good runners, but they have enough functional athleticism.


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[Assistant] To just make that edge rusher miss for a split second so they can get the throw off. I think that's what Stroud gives you. He feels like high floor, and because he's relatively young, he's a lot younger than Will Levis. I think there's upside with him as well, that he can only get better.


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[Assistant] Maybe work on, you know, maybe losing a little bit of weight and getting more athletic, but in terms of just being a pure passer, I think CJ Stroud is the best quarterback in this class.


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[Assistant] Like I said, these guys always have to showcase that confidence. I think at the quarterback spot, it's become that type of position. So I don't blame them, but like the Will Leves comment was weird. That comment from Stroud was a little bit strange, but I don't think it's going to like push him down the border anymore.


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[Assistant] I will kind of go with, uh, one player that to me had the most impressive performance, but I want to just track how he does.


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[Assistant] Zack Kutz from Old Dominion, uh, tested like the most explosive tight end at the combine. He's older. He started at Penn State, was there three years and then at Old Dominion for two years. Six, seven, legitimately six, seven.


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[Assistant] 255 tested through the roof and it shows on film that kind of receiver like ability. He could add probably five or 10 pounds and it would be no problem in terms of, you know, sapping any of his athleticism.


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[Assistant] I just want to see where he ultimately stacks up in this loaded tight end class to be that size, to run that fast, to have, you know, a 40 inch vertical broad jump close to 11 feet. Like he tested like some of the corners and the wide receivers.


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[Assistant] Yeah, absolutely nuts. Like his combine workout and he came in as like old dominion titan who's really tall, kind of skinny, like how's he going to work out? And then he was the most athletic titan there. And then, uh, Darrell Chami from Maryland and I'm listing him. He's an obscure name.


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[Assistant] Wasn't at the senior bowl or the shrine bowl. I think he was at the NFL PA bowl, which is kind of like the third in line when it comes to the, uh, all star games after college football season.


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[Assistant] I really like him on film. I think he's bendy. I trust certainly the strength and conditioning program there at Maryland. That's with Deontay Banks, Jacory and Bennett, um, Jalen Duncan, the left tackle, also very athletic. I think at the Maryland pro day, Darrell Chomney is going to kind of insert himself.


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[Assistant] Fourth or fifth round range. Bendy, pass rushing specialist that.


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[Assistant] For some reason it's just off the scouting radar. And usually the East West Shrine game, the senior bowl, they do a better job than I do identifying these kind of obscure talents. But if I'm going way


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[Assistant] Out of left field, Darrell Chamey from Maryland. Back in 2020, that COVID year, he was unblockable. It was the shortened season in the big 10. Uh, but really was like the best pass rusher in those four or five games for Maryland. Never was able to rekindle that, but the fact that I saw it.


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[Assistant] Means that he can do it. That's what I heard a lot this week in India. Uhm, a lot of other analysts and some scouts are saying that they like to just see it once or twice or for a short stretch from a player. They believe that if they get that guy in the building,


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[Assistant] I'll go way back too, and I'll stick with Maryland actually. You remember Bruce Campbell? Hell yea!


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[Assistant] The offensive tackle, like his film was not very good and like, he looked like a tight end at the combine and he tested, I don't remember all of his numbers obviously, but he tested like ridiculously and that was like the L. Davis Raider, so they picked him I think in the third round.


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[Assistant] Uhm, was not a very good football player, but that one was like super obscure where


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[Assistant] Was like, oh, who is this Maryland offensive lineman here that's not very good? And then he tested really well, which to me, it's always crazy. Like the NFL, the scouting departments, they identify the Ali Marpets, the Kyle Duggars from Menorah Ryan again, coming back to Will in the North Carolina area, like everything does. Um, like that one was pretty obscure too. Like he looked good on film.


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[Assistant] But it was like, okay, it's D2 football, like how athletic is he really? And then Kyle Dugger had a really good workout and has actually become a good player with the Patriots.


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[Assistant] Had his stock impacted negatively and that it, going into it was all, is it going to be Jalen Carter or Will Anderson as the first non quarterback off the board?


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[Assistant] Most people I think were leaning Jaylen Carter as I was because I think it's harder to find a really good interior pass rusher than it is to find a really good edge rusher.


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[Assistant] But now, as this kind of hangs over his head, there will be teams that will take Jalen Carter off their draft board. This is a pretty serious thing. Compounding mistakes that one, fateful night, tragic incident, of course. Some teams will not be as worried. Other teams will dig into it more. If this is still hanging over his head,


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[Assistant] This could be on a lesser degree of what happened to L. Collins in the 2015 draft. That was...


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[Assistant] Even if it's something where he, you know, does have a punishment for this, you want it to come down before the draft happens in late April, because with LL Collins, it was like, well, what's going to happen? Is he implicated in this or not? And he, like Will saying, he was a lock, probably top half of the first run and didn't even get picked.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what was weird about it too is that uhm, just real quick, that...


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[Assistant] I believe that it was like that he lied to the police and said he was a mile away from the incident when he was actually right there.


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[Assistant] Those character concerns I think are a little bit easier to understand now where it's like, oh, but then he lied to the police.


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[Assistant] Was not being fully truthful to NFL teams and now it comes out right before he speaks at the combine. That's why I think it's still looming over his head and teams are going to say, look, if you make a mistake.


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[Assistant] That's scorching hot take because Nolan Smith was the number one overall recruit coming out of high school just a few years ago. So the talent is undeniably there. He's been on the radar since really his freshman season at Georgia and before the torn pack.


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[Assistant] Very, very productive as a pass rusher. Again, without having like a loaded pass rush move arsenal. He was just winning with burst and bend around the corner. That's exactly what I remembered and really didn't like about Rashaan Gehry. But again, Rashaan Gehry has become a good player. Hasan Reddick, similar size. So it wouldn't be crazy if


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[Assistant] You know, there are some maturity issues with Jalen Carter, maybe gets off to a slower start in the NFL. And in a few years, Nolan Smith kind of rounds his game together, um, and becomes that elite pass rusher because he does have those uncoachable traits.


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[Assistant] I would feel a little more leery if it was in the top 10 at this point, and I could give a completely different answer if we do get some more clarity in like a month. Uhm, but that's what I-


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[Assistant] During the combine, when I got asked that question on a few radio spots, that's what I said, like it's easy for me or Will or Katie to say,


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, still pick them there. It's a different thing when you're the GM, say you're a first time GM and you're seeing all these really good prospects out there. It's a great defensive line class. Are you going to roll the dice on someone with that hanging over his head or are you going to pick Lucas Van Ness from Iowa or Kalijah Cansey from Pittsburgh that


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[Assistant] Pretty close, maybe 80 or 90% of Jalen Carter, but don't have the off the field stuff to really be worried about. I think when you're really in the line of fire there, it's like easier to pick the prospect that doesn't have those off field concerns.


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[Assistant] But maybe taking advice from Steve Keim as a GM is... But you're right, you're right. I get what you're saying.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pig Six Podcast, CBS Daily, NFL Podcast. I'm Katie Mox, here with Will Brinson, John Breach, and as I live and breathe, Ryan Wilson has joined us again today, uh, after your long absence, how's everything going with the, uh, the first Pig Podcast?


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[Assistant] Back to me. Today is an AFC win total over under show. Make sure that you tune in all week for more off season news. And remember to smash that like button, comment, subscribe on the YouTube page for everyone listening to audio only do the same download, follow, leave a review and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. We got the masters coming up this week in Brinson, don't we?


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[Assistant] I'm just trying to gauge when you said, oof, you don't want to know because over three and a half for tiger would be really bad.


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[Assistant] I need him to make the cut. Okay, let's start talking football fellas with the AFC North and the Cincinnati Bengals. Breach after years of hovering. Just seven or eight win.


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[Assistant] So we gotta get to 15 more teams. Alright, I'm gonna agree with you guys and take that over, uh, for the Cincinnati Bengals. Looking at the Browns, over under 9 and a half, the underjuiced to minus 135, they went 7 and 10.


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[Assistant] If those aren't 10-win teams, then it's likely that the Cleveland Browns take a step up. But we were talking about Tiger Woods earlier. I don't know that Deshaun Watson can get over the public shame of what he's done. It took Tiger a very long time.


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[Assistant] To get over that, I don't know that Deshaun Watson comes back that strong this year, so I'm gonna go under.


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[Assistant] Alright, moving on. How about those Pittsburgh Steelers when total eight and a half books leaning towards the over here minus 120 is juiced there. They went nine eight last season. Tomlin still has never had a losing season. A lot of people thought it was going to happen last season.


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[Assistant] Uh, there went total last year, seven and a half. They went over that, but there was a lot of question marks there with that QB carousel. Would it be Pickett, Trubisky, Rudolph was still in the mix. Uh, they improved their O line. They made some good additions on an already stacked


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[Assistant] Defense, I think that they're expected to compete for a playoff spot this year, so I'm going to go over on this. Wilson?


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[Assistant] Okay, well I look forward to, uh, to seeing that later in the season.


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[Assistant] Yeah, alright. Well, uh, Raven's over under eight and a half.


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[Assistant] The overs juiced to minus 125. They went 10 and 7 last year. I'm not touching this, uh, until we know what's going on with Lamar Jackson. I think Lamar Jackson stays, but yeah, we don't know if he's healthy. We don't know anything. So I guess I would lean under here, but I'm not touching it.


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[Assistant] People in the chat taking bets that Lamar Jackson will never play again. I don't know that I believe that. I think he'll play with the Ravens, but unhappily and maybe not.


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[Assistant] Uh, they went nine and eight last season. They are double digits this year that has not been set that high. Their win total since the year 2000. Trevor Lawrence starting to look like the number one pick overall. Came into his own. We got Calvin Ridley coming back from his gambling suspension.


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[Assistant] Uh, this one, I feel like they've had kind of a polarizing off season. It just depends if you're more optimistic or pessimistic when looking at the Tennessee Titans.


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[Assistant] They were what, seven and three though, before they were ravaged with injuries last year, so I'll lean over, but seven and a half is in the bottom four of the win totals, uhm, for the league, so it's pretty low for the Titans. I'm gonna lean over.


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[Assistant] No, I mean like, in the pick six pod, if we like, put you guys up against each other when the traffic comes.


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[Assistant] Alright, now the Indianapolis Colts, uh, their win total is at six and a half.


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[Assistant] They have, I believe, the fourth overall pick, right? Probably going for a quarterback in the draft, but they also have Gardner Minshew, Sam Allinger, Nick Foles. They've had a veteran QB carousel for a couple years. So uhm, six and a half seems pretty low to me. I know that sounds terrible.


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[Assistant] Alright, everybody's on the under now. The Houston Texans, they're at five.


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[Assistant] It is, it is. Houston Texans, five and a half, um, juice is the same, minus one ten, obviously new coach, D'Amico Ryan's, which is good.


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[Assistant] Uh, they're likely to draft either a Bryce Young or CJ Stroud. So that's going to be an upgrade over Davis smells. I like them over this five and a half.


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[Assistant] Alright, moving on to the AFC East and the Buffalo Bills. Now, I have been on this podcast and I said I'm no longer betting on the Bills, but I'm not going to take them to win the conference anymore. I've done that and it blows up my face two years in a row. Uh, but at this 10 and a half, they went 13-3-1 last year.


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[Assistant] I like this. Since Sean McDermott joined them in 2017, they haven't got less than nine wins. You got to think with Von Miller, hopefully healthy for the entire season. This team is going to look a little bit better for the entirety of the season. So I will go over the 10 and a half.


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[Assistant] Alright, the uh, the jets are win total set to nine and a half over juice to minus one thirty. First of all, we don't even know if Aaron Rodgers is going there, but even if Aaron Rodgers does go there,


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[Assistant] To say the Jets are going to get 10 wins at minus 130, I'm not taking that bet. So I'm not going to touch this until we know what's going on. There has been some rumblings that the 49ers are interested in. Um, Aaron Rodgers, I don't know who that is. Yeah. You haven't, it's all over the news right now. That's the Niners.


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[Assistant] Makes me feel better about calling you Brian the first time I met you, Wilburnton. Hey that's fine.


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[Assistant] Alright, Miami Dolphins, nine and a half over at Even Money under minus one twenty. They win nine and eight last year. Obviously Tua sat out a few games. When he's in there, they look pretty good. He got Tyree Kill talking trash to the Chiefs. Big expectations for the Dolphins this year. I see him at ten wins.


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[Assistant] Alright, New England Patriots set to seven and a half. They went eight and nine last year. Books obviously looking for them to do that again. The over is juiced to minus one twenty.


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[Assistant] No real big movements in free agency. There's some drama right now swirling around at the quarterback position there that Bill Belichick maybe isn't happy. Uhm, but it's still Bill Belichick. So for them to get eight wins, I'm going to say yes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we gotta take a quick break and then we will speed around and we get back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the pick six podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson.


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[Assistant] John Breach and Ryan Wilson today and we are covering the AFC win totals over and under. Make sure you join us all week long for more NFL offseason news and remember to like, comment, subscribe on basically everything that you possibly can. Alright, the AFC West, the Kansas City Chiefs, 11 and a half, top of the league with again the 49ers and the Bengals.


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[Assistant] If anything, 11 and a half is probably too low for the Chiefs. They've won 12 plus games in each of the last five seasons, AKA every single year that Mahomes has been a starter. So smash this over from me.


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[Assistant] The Chargers always a sexy pick in the beginning of the season and then they disappoint you. They're at 9 and a half, over juiced to minus 125, coming off a 10-7 season. I don't know, the AFC is like a murderer's row when it comes to quarterback. And look, they have a better offensive coordinator with Kellen Moore.


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[Assistant] They did beef up the offensive line. Herbert, uhm, should be doing a little bit better, but...


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[Assistant] I don't know. I have a hard time betting on the chargers because they've hurt me.


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[Assistant] Alright, Denver Broncos went five and twelve last season. Now their win total is set to eight and a half. The juice is the same on the over and under.


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[Assistant] Can Sean Payton fix Russell Wilson? I'm gonna say yes and lean over here. 12 of Payton's 15 seasons with the Saints. New Orleans had at least a top 10 scoring offense, so they spent more money than any team did in free agency. It's not even close, so I'm gonna, you know,


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[Assistant] Okay, so now the Las Vegas Raiders, seven and a half. I'm going over.


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[Assistant] And, uh, like my guy Ryan Wilson said, two words for you. Jimmy Garoppolo.


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[Assistant] Very upset. But that is gonna do it for us today. Thanks for tuning in with us. Make sure that you join us all next week at 1pm for more NFL offseason coverage. And of course, remember to like, comment, subscribe on the YouTube page. And if you're listening to audio only, make sure you download, follow, leave a five star review and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod. We'll see you next week.


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[Assistant] I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Brady Quinn. Today is the Brady Quinn football show. Hopefully I did that right Brinson. And it is March Madness themed. We are here all week sharing our off season news. Yesterday we played free agency recap Uno. That was a fun one. Today we're going to dip our toes into the madness by matching sweet 16 teams to their NFL


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[Assistant] Doppelgangers. And look, if you're watching us on YouTube, smash that like button, leave a comment, subscribe, audio listeners only, do the same, download, follow, leave a five star review, and tell your friends to listen and watch the pod.


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[Assistant] Fellas, this is a March Madness themed show, so before we get into that,


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[Assistant] Yes, I'm at the, I'm at the bottom, but I had, you know, Purdue going very far. That was an upset that killed me. Arizona going far. That killed me. I have Bama winning the whole thing. So we're still alive there. Uhm, but yeah, you, I mean, it's just been.


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[Assistant] It's been brutal and also just on the betting side and Brinson, I know you're like my little degenerate counterpart. I have been getting rocked on straight cuts. I am down units.


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[Assistant] FAU, I mean. It's the problem with these Florida people.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, on this note, the Sweet 16 is upon us, so Brady had the great idea of doing Sweet 16 comps to NFL teams, and I will start things off here, and obviously it would not be a mock show if I didn't talk about the 49ers, so sorry everybody, that's a part of this program now.


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[Assistant] Houston is the 49ers. And the reason I think this is because Houston is the most balanced of the number one seeds. They have a top 15 offense, a top top top five, excuse me, defense. In fact, the Cougars are the only team that rank in the top 10 for offensive and defensive efficiency left in the entire tournament.


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[Assistant] But defense is really the fabric and the identity of the 49ers.


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[Assistant] Their biggest offseason move was strengthening their front seven with Javon Hargrave. And culture has always been a big deal with the organization.


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[Assistant] But what's Houston's biggest problem, guys? Health! Health is their biggest problem. It's not their stud guard. Yeah, Sasser, like you said, he's dealing with a groin injury. And then there's Jamal Sheed, also has a banged up knee. I think everyone can agree that Houston can go very far if they stay healthy, but that's the biggest question mark. And if that isn't the 49ers, I don't know what is.


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[Assistant] They have the top defense, they have the top defense, you know, year and year after at least top five.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. That's been the fabric and that's been the identity of the 49ers, even with Kyle Shanahan. So that's my first comp. Brady, what's yours?


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[Assistant] Well, and I think just in general, and you think of Yukon's history, it reminds me a little bit of the New York Giants history as well, because they had that crazy run in 2014 where they won it all and they were a huge underdog. And the Giants have been underdogs before and won the Super Bowl against the Patriots. So I do feel like just in general, similarity. Where did Brinson go?


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[Assistant] I agree. Alright, my next one. Guys, this one, just hear me out on this. Kansas State.


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[Assistant] Is the Bears. Now, K-State was picked dead last in the Big 12 in the preseason.


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[Assistant] The Bears ranked dead last in the NFL last year. They went 3-14 and they had the number one overall pick this year. They're a very fun group to watch offensively thanks to Marquis Noel, that 5'8 electric kid that


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[Assistant] I was looking at stats. He made up for more than 60% of Kansas state scoring in their victory over Kentucky. Who does that remind you of? Hmm, Justin Fields?


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[Assistant] His designated quarterback runs have to be at least 60% of the Bears offense, if not more.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Pick 6 Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and Brady Quinn. It's the Brady Quinn Football Show!


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[Assistant] Alright guys, we're going to move on from the last subject and let's talk about the draft. And Brady, I'm really interested to hear your perspective on this. Guys coming out of the NFL Draft are getting smaller and faster. And I feel like this kind of started even with Tyreek Hill when he came out. He was very short, very fast. Is this a new fad or the new normal?


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[Assistant] And they're both kind of on the smaller side of guys, but they can kind of do everything. Do you feel like Brady and Brinton that this is one of the reasons why it's kind of trending that way? Just because the actual positions themselves are changing.


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[Assistant] One place where height probably does matter, and Brady, you can obviously weigh in on this, is the quarterback. I mean, look at someone like Kyler Murray, who's 5'10", who struggles to see over guys. And there is a couple short guys coming out of the draft. Do you think that that is a place where people are not willing to take the shorter, faster guy?


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[Assistant] Is that, is that scarier though for a player not to have a long-term contract and to say I'm going to have this job for this long?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I never thought about it in terms of broadcast, but I actually totally relate to that because I remember when I was presented with a longer term deal or shorter term. Yeah, you don't know where you're going to want to be in a couple years or what it's going to look like. So, explained very well, fellas. Okay, let's pivot here.


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[Assistant] And let's talk about Dan Snyder. Who doesn't like to talk about Dan Snyder? It seems like the sale of the Washington Commanders is happening very soon. It's estimated to be worth six billion dollars. Some names being thrown out there for potential buyers. Jeff Bezos, you got Magic Johnson, who just joined the Josh Harris group. Michael Jordan's name, I heard, is being thrown in the mix.


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[Assistant] One, do y'all think that Dan Snyder is actually gonna sell this team, which seems like it's finally happening, and I think the FBI, uh, has a lot to do with that, and, and who, who's the best, who is the best to, uh, buy the Commanders?


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[Assistant] I feel like the commanders need stability, and maybe this is a boring answer, but I do think that Josh Harris, who now Michael, or excuse me, Magic Johnson has joined,


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[Assistant] His group makes the most sense, but he owns the Devils, the Sixers, and the Crystal Palace, right? The primarily Crystal Palace. And he got Magic Johnson, who, fun fact, I actually worked for his wife when I was working in fashion. She has a denim line, uhm, called Sea... Why am I forgetting the name? Something by CJ.


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[Assistant] This team needs stability and like a friendly face. So I feel like Magic Johnson and someone like Josh Harris would be a good fit for them, even though it's a poor answer.


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[Assistant] Today is March Madness themed. Uh, join us all week long for more NFL offseason news. Remember to like, comment, subscribe to the YouTube page. And now we're going to talk about NFL futures, the NFC and the AFC and who we see.


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[Assistant] Winning the, uh, the respective championships and, uh, Brady, I, I can see yours here on the rundown and I like them. So you go first.


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[Assistant] I agree. Okay, I understand what you're saying. But if we're talking about Final Four, like who's gonna be in the Final Four? I agree with Grady and with you. Yea, you go Chuck. You have to go with the Niners and the Eagles. I do think the Eagles will take a slight step back this next year, but I do still think they're gonna be huge.


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[Assistant] For the NFC and you nailed it. We don't know what's happening with the quarterback position. So San Francisco has all the pieces, but we don't know who's going to be under center. There's a little bit of a question mark there, but they are the two best. If I was going to, if I was going to pick like a long shot, I might look at the Detroit Lions at 11 to one just because they've made so many great moves this off season, especially beefing up that defense. And, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, Jared Goff all of a sudden looks like a superstar, uh, in that offense. So if I had to sprinkle anything, it would be the trot lines. And if we look at the AFC, yeah, Kansas City Chiefs, they're like the Alabama here, right? So I feel like they're just gonna go all the way. Number one overall seed.


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[Assistant] I'm out on the Buffalo Bills. I have lost, I've believed in the Buffalo Bills for two seasons now and had a futures ticket on them and I've lost money every single year. So I'm gonna go with the Bengals.


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[Assistant] And if there is one slight kryptonite to Patrick Mahomes, it is Joe Burrow. He has been able to beat them more times than anybody else has, specifically back to back as well. So I would go Bengals Kansas City for my final four.


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[Assistant] Alright, well that is going to wrap up our show today. Thank you to Brady Quinn and Will Brinson here. Make sure you join us Thursday at 1pm for more NFL off-season coverage. Remember to like, comment, subscribe on the YouTube page for everyone listening audio only. Download, leave a 5-star review.


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[Assistant] At stake, the chance to put on the iconic green jacket. So golfers, are you ready?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, that's one of those things where you do have to trust the, the, the information getters when they bring this stuff to the table. And so talking about whether or not it's going to impact his draft stock, it is going to be interesting and I'm with you, Will. It's going to impact it somehow. It just depends on.


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[Assistant] How many teams did he meet with? Was he forthright in talking about this situation or are those teams that he talked to, he didn't say a word and they're just finding this out for the first time and now all of a sudden you're having even more character concerns because he's trying to sweep that under the rug.


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[Assistant] And there's one thing to point out here too. I mean, yeah, the timing of it isn't great because it was day one of the NFL scouting combine. The whole NFL was under one roof.


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[Assistant] But, there is, it's not like it was draft night, where all of a sudden you have guys completely your team saying, you know what, we're not drafting this guy, we're not touching him, and it's a tonsil situation.


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[Assistant] There at least is now time for teams to look into the situation and come to some sort of conclusion, whether or not they want to draft him or not. Because more often than not, if these things come out draft night, round one,


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[Assistant] He's having a much bigger freefall than I think he will have later on this string.


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[Assistant] We have the story up, uh, George Tomah, the Sod father, he was a long time groundskeeper. He basically said that it was over water, it had that, that smell, and it's tough because in that environment.


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[Assistant] in Arizona in the desert. slippery surface. We've s this season when it was a c field with the Kansas ci the cardinals. It was an


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[Assistant] Sure, if you wanted, if the sod father's telling me that it was over watered, who am I to say that it was?


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[Assistant] It's not like this completely came out of nowhere, like we've been mentioning with this story the entire time. It's like this in Arizona. I know it was a different field.


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[Assistant] I know that they, they try to do their own different thing, but if you're these head coaches, you do have to put that at least in the back of your mind a little bit. I thought Danny and Madola had an interview and it was on Chris Long's podcast talking about this in Superbowl 49 against the Seahawks with the Patriots.


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[Assistant] So as much as we're saying, oh, the Philadelphia Eagles should be upset about this, well, you kind of knew what you were getting into. It's not like this was an unknown storyline.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't fault some of the sportsbooks if they want to do it because it is good PR will keep your customers happy, but...


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[Assistant] If you're like a fan, no, again, like we're all saying, gambling is, you're not entitled to winning money. You are risking money and you're gonna lose it under some weird circumstances sometimes.


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[Assistant] I would like to see Tom Brady back just because that would be fun for us that do this for a living, but ultimately, I do think that the worm would kind of turn on him though. I mean, I think that he would go from, alright, we can get it, Tom Brady would, you know, alright,


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[Assistant] Figure it out, retirement wasn't for him, that's fine. He starts doing it again, and again, this is turning into like Brett Farb 2.0. I feel like a lot of people, even like in the New England area, Tampa Bay area, wherever you want to say Tom Brady's camp is, they'd be like, alright dude, figure it out, you know, bleeper get off the pot in terms of retirement and all.


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[Assistant] Correct me if I'm wrong here, too. I mean, yes, in that interview and what he said publicly was, I just wish him congratulations on retirement. I didn't explicitly say that he asked him.


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[Assistant] Because wouldn't he technically still get in trouble with the NFL? Is Tom Brady not technically a member of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers until March whatever when pre-agency starts?


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[Assistant] And Katie, you can speak better to this, but like, does he, I know that they would cater the offense to a Tom Brady if he decides to arrive, but with Kyle Shanahan, he kind of wants their quarterbacks not necessarily mobile, but to go out on boots and all that kind of stuff, which Brady doesn't do.


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[Assistant] Well, that's especially true when all of a sudden you start talking about, yeaah, six games that last year, they trade Hollywood Brown to almost ascend you to be the wide receiver one, and you don't really answer that bell. I mean, that's a, that's a tough thing to kind of take your side fully here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know if they would get rid of Bateman, you know, if it's a thing between him and the GM, then sure, yeah, maybe that leads to a divorce of these two sides, but I don't know if it has much to do with Lamar Jackson's situation, because even if you get rid of Lamar Jackson, you're getting a King's Ransom probably in the top 5, top 10 in the NFL draft, you're drafting a quarterback.


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[Assistant] they do need to draft bet or at least deep in that think we have, we've seen with them at 22 takin out of boston college or w


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[Assistant] The CVS drug testing team is gonna come knocking at Breach's door at some point this offseason. I do think it's interesting though with Rodgers, I do think that it's...


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[Assistant] I don't know if it's necessarily intentional that he's trying to...


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[Assistant] Not that he doesn't like Jordan Love or anything like that, and he's kind of keeping him waiting around just because he kept waiting around.


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[Assistant] But I do think he looks at the Brett Favre situation and says, hey listen, I had to sit back and wait.


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[Assistant] Now it's my turn to kind of sit back and literally marinate in a dark room for four days to kind of figure this whole thing out because I had to sit back and wait for Brett Barb to figure it out. So now it's my turn to kind of do this whole thing. So I do think that there's some element of him being intentional, but genuinely actually being conflicted of what he wants to do.


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[Assistant] I think he goes, I think he goes to the New York Jets. The crazy enough team to bring that guy along.


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[Assistant] I'll say this too about Aaron Rodgers, it kinda goes back to what that commenter said too. Like, all these quarterbacks sometimes get so robotic and we're just like, okay, they give nothing answer. At least this dude's interesting. At least he tells you something that he's thinking.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he likes to hug you. Like you don't feel like you know Brady whatsoever because he gives those robotic hands. For better or worse, you might think he's weird, but at least you kinda know who the guy is.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you this though, you know, the Texas A&M running back, Dominic mentioned him in the, in the chat. Dominic A-Chain, uh, Devon A-Chain, he's someone who could do it. You're talking about a world-class type of track star running back at Texas A&M. He is somebody that if you were to bet that, I think you would identify him as one of the candidates to actually do it for you.


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[Assistant] Well, that's one of the things that's interesting is that we don't necessarily know who's participating in some of these events. I mean, yeah, you could say like, okay, we know some of the quarterbacks that are throwing.


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[Assistant] But, like you're saying, well, all of a sudden, if a dude backs out that we think is awesome, well then okay, we're kinda, we're, we're, we're talking to the sports book asking for a refund.


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[Assistant] I'll say this, this is probably like a great move for like a projected like sixth round pick who's just a meathead and he's like, you know what? I'm just gonna, this is my time to shine. I mean...


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[Assistant] Rise up just banging out 40. No, I know, but you, we're, we're banking on the dude that's like motivated short arms, so it's not that big of an extension. That's what, that's what we're looking for.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm with you there. Well, I would go over too. And it's interesting too, because Byron Jones kind of making a lot of noise pre-combined with his comments on social media about, you know, talking about the combine and his ridiculous run saying now he can barely even run or jump or anything along those lines. So it's kind of an interesting sidebar there for the Dolphins as well. Yeah, good point.


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[Assistant] That seems, I'll ride with history there and I'll go with that trend.


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[Assistant] Yeah, by .01 seconds. Talk about if you want a refund. Brandon Cooks.


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[Assistant] I mean that, I'm surprised we haven't done that already. I mean, we should do video submissions just to kinda put some film on tape for next year and then we can see how our progress has gone.


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[Assistant] Well, you went into your NPR voice for 10 seconds, so I got a little bit confused there.


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[Assistant] And then I am surprised to even see you right now. I just thought you just locked yourself in a closet the whole, for the next three months and just did mock drafts and did HQ hits from this closet and you were just all draft all the time. But thanks for taking some time out of your day to talk about something that has nothing to do with the draft, Wilson.


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[Assistant] And you know what? I'll throw in a Rick Spielman note. I had never met him before Super Bowl week. Uh, I chatted that guy up. He probably thinks I'm the most annoying person on the planet. Spent about half hour talking with him at media night and just asked him about everything I could think to ask him about and he answered every single question. He's a great guy.


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[Assistant] What I will say, the person who got called out the most during Super Bowl week was definitely Pete Prisco. You know, like, Prisco gives us a hard time, but he has a hard time, uh, battling back from spiel and it's pretty huge. You never see someone with a higher up on the chain than make fun of Prisco and that happens. It was nice.


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[Assistant] Well, so I think the stat is there's four new playoff teams every year since like 1990, which means there's.


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[Assistant] Gonna be at least four teams from this past postseason that do not make it.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know what? I will say, I'll take the obvious one. I feel bad saying it. It's just low hanging fruit. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] Uh, they were barely a playoff team. Yes, they're in a bad division, but I don't know who is there going to be their starting quarterback. Are you giving the job to Kyle Trask? Are you giving to Blaine Gabbard? Are you going to go out and sign someone? I have no idea, but whatever they do,


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[Assistant] You know, I don't think they're going to find a huge upgrade over Tom Brady and they only won eight games and.


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[Assistant] Are they going to improve on that? I don't think so. So if you can't win more day games, you're not going to make playoffs. So I think that is my, would be my top ranked team that is not going to return to the postseason.


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[Assistant] Ah, you know what's funny is that I was trying to figure that out in my head and I would have just not talked for five minutes so I just went straight to the Buccaneers and went to another Florida team. Uh, that's cause you asked about the AFC. I think that they are going to be better.


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[Assistant] Uh, as long as our quarterback situation stays the way it is, I don't, I can't, I mean, it's just, it's a solid roster. You still have Tyreek Hill, you still have Jalen Waddle, you still have a stacked offense, uh, Tua stays healthy, I just don't see that team taking a huge step back.


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[Assistant] I will say an AFC team, so just because I think the Dolphins win nine games, I mean, I think they'll make the playoffs. I just think they're going to be very similar, uh, to how they were this year.


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[Assistant] But you know what? I will go out and win. I will make my AFC team.


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[Assistant] Well look, I don't want Brandon Staley fired because I think that Andy Reid loves having him in the division. Uh, so, you know, that's good for Andy Reid.


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[Assistant] But the one thing I will say about the Chargers is, you know, we don't know what is going to happen with Keenan Allen.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's been some speculation that he could be a salary cap casualty. So you're losing one of your weapons. Uh, this team went 10 and 7, maybe could have been a little better, could have been a little worse. But here's the thing is I think the Raiders will be better when Josh McDaniels has a quarterback he wants there. Not that I think the Raiders are going to make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I think the Broncos are going to be better. And again, not that I think they're going to make the playoffs, but if they go, they went five and 12 this past season, if they go eight and nine, you know, those three wins, I just think the division is going to be overall more difficult because I could see the Raiders and Broncos both becoming eight win teams, which adds five more wins, uh, to what they did this past year.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I'm getting rid of the chargers and I'm gonna put in the New York Jets. Or the Patriots, one of those two.


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[Assistant] I mean, I could see the Bills slipping, they went 13-3, but I don't think they're gonna miss the playoffs. You know, like, even if they regress by three games, they're still 10-7, I still think that's good enough to put them in the playoffs. So, I could absolutely see them.


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[Assistant] I mean, the beat down they took to end the season. So you know, we all remember the 13 seconds divisional round playoff loss of the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] That kind of thing puts a chip on your shoulder and says, oh, we are this close to the Super Bowl. We just need to make one or two moves. We'll get there. When you get a beat down like this, I feel like that makes you kind of reevaluate everything. Like, man, we had no shot in that game.


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[Assistant] Where do we stand in this conference? We don't even know. We're barely the third best team at this point because the Chiefs and Bengals are 1 and 2. Uh, so I could see them taking a step back, but I just don't think.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. I think that I was on the fence between Tampa Bay and Seattle with who I would eliminate. It's not that I don't think, to me they're like the Dolphins, but not as talented. Like I, I don't think they're gonna fall and be a six and 11 team. I think they're gonna win eight or nine games next year, but you also have this whole year.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm talking about in the sense that nobody knew what the Seahawks were going to be like, and I think they caught everyone off guard by how good they were. They're not going to catch anyone off guard in 2023, so.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think it's gonna be a little tougher for them to get to 9 and 8, so yeaah. I'm throwing the Seahawks out with the Bucks.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know what's funny is I think I made a bet with Adam Beasley of Pro Football Network. Man, Beasley out there getting me drunk and roping me into bets.


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[Assistant] Uh, we made a $50 bet and I said the Rams would finish in one of the top two spots in the NFC West. They don't have to make the playoffs. They just have to finish in first or second place. The Rams? The Rams.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, the offensive line definitely is the big issue, but I don't think the Cardinals are going to be better. I think the Seahawks are going to take a step back. So it just feels like the Rams, and not that I think are going to make playoffs, I just think they'll be the second best team.


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[Assistant] I like it's pretty high. I feel like, like I don't really like the Packers next year. It's just, there's too much drama with Aaron Rodgers. And if you trade them away, then Jordan loves a first year starter. Uh, so man, and, and the Vikings could take a step back. I don't think they're gonna win 13 games again.


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[Assistant] Well, he had his thumb, you know, that knocked him out a few games. Same thing with Russell Wilson, and Wilson hasn't been the same quarterback since that thumb injury.


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[Assistant] Uhm, well I mean, the cat was going 12 games in two straight seasons, like to me. And you still don't trust him though.


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[Assistant] No, I don't trust them in the playoffs. I trust them in the regular season.


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[Assistant] Well, that's, that's what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say, but my answer here is no, because I think you franchise them, so there's at least one more season, and if you


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[Assistant] Is that if you franchise tag him, and this is the downside for the Ravens, you have your price right now, whether, maybe he wants Deshaun Watson money or.


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[Assistant] Uh, and the Ravens are offering market value, which aren't the same because Watson has all that guaranteed money. But if you let Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert sign contracts, Lamar's money only goes up. He's only going to want more than them. Um, so you know, if you don't get the deal done this year, it's tough to see the deal get done. So yeah, I think he'll play at least one more year in Baltimore.


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[Assistant] But also if you're the Ravens, can you imagine like going to that deal with Lamar saying like, man, you want 49 million a year. We can literally just tag you and save 17 million. Like why would we convince us why we should do otherwise? Convinces why they should sign a long-term deal?


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[Assistant] No, if you're the Ravens and Lamar wants a 50 million dollar a year deal with all of it guaranteed and he's not, you know, he won't negotiate on that because he wants the Deshaun Watson deal and you're the Ravens, you're like, well, okay, or we can just give you 32 million dollars for one year since you're not gonna, you know, listen to our negotiations, uh, he just doesn't have as much leverage as I think he feels like he has.


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[Assistant] Uh, I guess the season with Tyler Huntley? Yeah, boy.


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[Assistant] I don't know what your plan B is, so that's an interesting situation. Hey, they almost beat the Bangles in the wild card round with Tyra Huntley.


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[Assistant] I mean, who has the talent to, you know, cause you need, the Ravens built their offense around Lamar Jackson, so what other team has


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[Assistant] What the talent he had to work with last year and their rushing attack, I think surprised everyone. I don't think anyone thought that's what they're going to do. They ran the ball pretty well. And even though they only won seven games, I'd say they still exceeded expectations. You throw Lamar in there and man that.


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[Assistant] What do you think about Shane Steichen saying, hey, I had Jaylen this past season in Philly. Why don't I trade for him, bring him to Indy and I can run something similar.


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[Assistant] Uh, probably draft. I'd rather not pay a guy 50 million dollars per year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I'm not giving up the fourth overall pick for Lamar. I'd give up. What about a future first and a bunch of.


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[Assistant] Maybe a future first, because I think that if I can succeed with him,


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[Assistant] Then, you know, that's going to be a lower first round pick.


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[Assistant] Well, he has regressed. He has not played as well as he did in 2019, and the last two seasons he's missed games due to injuries.


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[Assistant] If Lamar Jackson gets traded, does that mean Joe Burrow is the longest tenured starting quarterback in that division?


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[Assistant] This is Billy just wanting us to shut down another NFC East team that's saying no one can compete with the Philadelphia Eagles.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know what my feeling is about Daniel Jones? I, you know, like, if the Giants keep him, that's fine. Brian Dable worked miracles, worked wonders within this year, made him look like a good quarterback, and I think another year in Dable's system will do wonders for Jones. I think he could be even better next year, but...


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[Assistant] To me, he's got that Andy Dalton Kirk cousin ceiling. So disrespectful. But just in that ceiling is that you're not winning a Super Bowl with him. Like he can get you the playoffs. You might even win a playoff game. Uh, but I just don't see them winning Super Bowl with Dale Jones.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, I don't know if that list includes, cause I, does Jimmy Garoppolo count? Or is this starting quarterbacks only? Well, he's a free agent now. But he's gonna play Jacoby Brissette? All those Patriots quarterbacks that played with Tommy Brady?


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[Assistant] If you're picking between Carl and Lamar Jackson, they're so different. Like their skill set's so different that you as a coach have to decide like, Hey, look, what are we going to do here? What do I want? What am I trying to design my offense to look like? And it just feels like, uh, Hey guys, we just saw Nathaniel Hackett.


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[Assistant] Billy's playing the clip here. You want Nathaniel Hackett running offense with Lamar Jackson? Cause that just seems like it's not gonna work.


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[Assistant] So it's more of, of the scheme pit that I think Derek Carr worked better with Nathaniel Hackett.


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[Assistant] Yeah, look, if I'm Derek Carr, I'm calling, I'm having my representatives call up two teams. I am saying either get me on the Jets or get me on the Carolina Panthers.


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[Assistant] Right, I mean, Frank Reich, you give him a quarterback, so if you put Derek Carr on the Panthers, I think they could win ten games.


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[Assistant] I don't think the Bucks with Derek Carr are as good as the Panthers with Derek Carr. I don't think the Saints with Derek Carr are as good as the Panthers with Derek Carr. So I just think if I'm picking an MC South team and I'm Derek Carr, that, uh, Carolina will be on the top of my list.


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[Assistant] They literally have three former NFL head, it's like David Tepper was so burnt out on Matt Roll, a guy who had no NFL experience. He's like, we're just going to hire every NFL head coach and get them on the staff. I don't care how much it costs.


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[Assistant] Uh, the only thing I would say about Mike Evans is that look, you're the Buccaneers, Tom Brady's gone, I feel like you need to be in rebuild mode, and if you think you can dump, uh, Mike Evans, who has


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[Assistant] Like a 23 million dollar cap hit and you think you can trade that away and save some money and get some compensation return, then I would do it.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I, anywhere in, like, the, uh, like, Bills and Patriots, I think, could both be interested, uh, get a proven wide receiver.