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[Assistant] His 07 season with New England was insane, but even before that when he was with the Minnesota Vikings, what was, I forget what the actual statistics were, but it was like three catches, a hundred and something yards, three touchdowns. They always put that meme up when a receiver goes off on a weekly basis. The dude was just, he was an alien. He's an, he's an absolute freak and one of the best receivers of all time.


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[Assistant] Like, what would it take for Justin Jefferson to, to ultimately be here? Like, you know, obviously he's already in, you know, he's on the list, but what, like, how, like, how high does he need to go? Like, what else does he need to do? And he's only been in the league for a few years, already established himself as one of the best starts to a career for a wide receiver of all time.


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[Assistant] But how much longer do we have to go until he gets into that Randy Moss thing where you're just like, yeah, no, of course it's Justin Jefferson.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I don't know. You'd be the tiebreaker on this one. I do like Demarius Thomas, but...


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[Assistant] Spearheaded a lot of the Patriots early dynasty years. But is it, am I foolish for saying him over Ozzy Newsom?


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[Assistant] I think all of these teams now should look at this list and then just trade to these selections because clearly this is-


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[Assistant] Why would you? Because this is where all the stars come from. This is, you have to, you know, yeaah, it's boring to just get the number one overall pick. You actually want the number 24 overall pick if you're really galaxy-braining.


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[Assistant] This whole thing. I think this is a tough one because, you know, Aaron Rogers is one of the best quarterbacks of all time.


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[Assistant] Multiple time MVP Super Bowl champion, but Ed Reed is that dude. He is one of the best.


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[Assistant] Defensive backs in NFL history, you know, you've heard Tom Brady, you've heard Peyton Manning, you've heard all of these guys say that Ed Reed was the toughest guy I've ever had to face on a week in week out basis. I kind of feel like I lean towards Ed Reed.


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[Assistant] Had the tackle of Marshawn Lynch right before the Malcolm Butler interception. It's one of the more underrated stops. Defensive plays in Super Bowl history in my opinion. The fact that you were able to stop that dude at the goal line. The play before the interception.


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[Assistant] Between the two, again, I don't want to be a homer, so I don't want to just say Hightower, but I felt like he had more moments in more championship games than homes.


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[Assistant] I'm going with the Ace Ventura Pet Detective star, Dan Marina.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's, it's a crime that I'm still not over to this day. Similar to Ray Finkel not getting over that kick.


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[Assistant] I think I, Joe Staley is someone who, it just pops out to me, but I don't, I don't know. What do you think?


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[Assistant] Totally biased pick here. I interviewed Fran Tarkenton a long time ago and he was super nice, so I'm going with him.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's too early for TJ Watt. I know we've had a couple of these conversations with other guys, but I think TJ Watt is Hall of Fame trajectory, one of the best pass rushers of his generation in a time where again, it's so much harder to make any sort of impact defensively. But what do you think?


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[Assistant] Is it too early for Cam Heyward either? I don't think so. I think he's in this conversation easily.


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[Assistant] I think it's still, as impressive as Lamar Jackson has been, obviously a multiple time MVP, it's Drew Brees. You know, you're talking about a guy that's won a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] I love his NFL story and he's been one of the more prolific guys in a, in that era.


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[Assistant] No, I don't think it will take that long. I, I think if we start to see some playoffs, I mean, if he went to Super Bowl, obviously that, that throws him further into the ring and that's been...


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[Assistant] I don't think reach the ceiling yet where I feel like Breeze did reach his ceiling.


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[Assistant] It's, uh, it's actually beautiful here the last two days, really. It was really hot all week long at the memorial over in Columbus, which is about 40 minutes from here. And it was just scorching hot. I mean, I think you saw it on the... I'm in South Florida.


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[Assistant] Saw that with the golf course. Muirfield Village played really different this year. It was firm. It was fast. We never get those conditions, but it's actually beautiful now. The last two mornings here have been, I think it was 47 degrees when I showed up and it is cloudy, but I think the players would probably want it that way. If you're going to walk 36 holes, it's probably the best condition.


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[Assistant] Like I'm going to talk around this because I don't want to upset my friends at the Miami Valley Golf Association to do a really good job and are sitting right next to me right now.


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[Assistant] But so this one is a little weird because it's so close to Columbus and the memorial and like I've done it the last three or four years and they of course have the big qualifier over there. It's two courses, Todd Lewis, Andrew Bradley, super producer is over there, but this one gets a lot of spillover.


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[Assistant] Having to scramble 20, 30 minutes to drive over to whatever the other golf course is. In Columbus, you only have to learn 18 holes instead of 36 holes and you are kind of competing against, I mean, if we're being honest, it's an 87 player field.


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[Assistant] Probably only have to be if you're a PGA Tour player, 20 of those guys. So you have to like your odds. Normally they give about 7 or 8 spots out to the US Open. This year it's down to 5. I think all the venues are down. But this one has a good amount of PGA Tour pros in it.


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[Assistant] So this one right here. Nope, that's not right. This one right here. There you go. It's brought to you by air. There it is. The Letter 5. This podcast is brought to you by the Number 5. Uhm, there's no one else to go. I apologize for the noise. It's ambient noise. Consider it just... We're in the press room. Consider this ambient.


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[Assistant] I have a hard enough time keeping the microphone plugged in. I don't think you want me tinkering around with it. It was interesting with Rory McIlroy taking a share of the lead into the final round because, and I wrote this on Saturday night,


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[Assistant] The idea that the third ranked player in the world going into the final round against some players who you would argue outside of Siwoo Kim really didn't have the resumes that you would think on paper would match up and yet everything that Rory said


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[Assistant] Didn't feel me full of confidence at all. He sounded like Dave Chappelle when we asked him about his chances on Sunday. He was like, well...


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[Assistant] And he was kind of crystal clear on this one. He did not talk around it. He does not feel comfortable with the swing. He's made the decision to make these changes. And that's a fine. Talk about not muting a mic. That's when you mute the mic. That's a fine. Five dollars.


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[Assistant] That's not the professional thing to do. Uh, and I would argue that in his particular, he did it again. Oh, it's a visual medium. I can see you cover your mouth. Nailed it.


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[Assistant] I would argue that he's been very, very clear about these swing changes that he's decided to embrace mid-season. And like he talked about it last week, that I know this is not the time when you want to do these with all of these big events, the major championships, designated events, the playoffs coming up. But he said it just felt like he had to do it at this point, that it was just something he had to embark on. And he was really clear.


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[Assistant] Well, actually he said it started creeping in at the end of last year, and you can point to like the CJ Cup, which was in the fall, but now you get towards the end of the year. He probably took December, November, didn't spend a lot of time playing golf. And again, when he embarked on this season, he wins in Dubai to start the year. He finishes second at Bay Hill.


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[Assistant] Sure, and I think what we saw at Muirfield Village, which is shocking, you can look at what he does off the tee and he's still very macro.


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[Assistant] He's still the same version that he always was. He's dominant off the tee with the driver in his hand, even at a place like Jack's place and Jack tries to take the driver out of your hand as much as possible. The part that was shocking to me is how many wedge shots would not hit poorly. Awful.


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[Assistant] Terrible. Unbelievably bad. I mean, we're talking about from 116 yards, uh, 96 yards, and he doesn't let alone get it close. He doesn't hit the green. He's putting himself in terrible positions. He can't get up and down. That to me, I think, speaks to where he knew his game was and what he knew he had to do.


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[Assistant] And I kind of did this last night. I actually did a column on Scottie Scheffler, which we can get into in a second, but I was sort of taken with the idea and I sort of.


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[Assistant] Just did a breakdown castle of the top five players, top five at that moment. They have, they've changed. Victor Hoblin moved to number five, but the top five at that point and sort of where they are in their games at a very crucial point of the year, as you pointed out, the U.S. Open is in two weeks.


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[Assistant] I mean, it, it was really kind of amazing to me because you can kind of go down the list and none of the five are playing particularly well. I mean, there's, there's part bits and pieces of all five that you can point at.


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[Assistant] I would argue that, and again Scotty's sort of an entirely different story. It is statistically impossible to do what he did on Sunday. To hit the ball as well as he did. He gained more than 20 strokes. It's not statistically impossible. He's been doing it for the entire year.


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[Assistant] No, no, that's the second best in the Shotlink era. That's only behind VJ Singh back, I don't know, a decade ago, whatever the case may be. He was so dominant.


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[Assistant] That, and yet he, and he puts himself in the lead only because he's dead last in putting. That's the part that's statistically impossible. That even though he putted still, awful, terrible, whatever adjective you want to use, he still found a way to put himself in the contention and he had to kind of wait around and see how it was going to play out with the playoff.


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[Assistant] That to me is amazing and I know there's a level of frustration and I'm sure at this point he's trying to stay as calm as possible because that's sort of Scotty's MO. We all learned a lot about him watching the Netflix special, but at some point that's got to eat at you. Uh, I think we did more so than others, I would argue.


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[Assistant] I'm going to dismiss the Randy Smith thing right out of the gates because Randy and I had a long talk about this at Oak Hill when Scottie started playing well early in the week and he pointed out that he really hasn't worked with him on his putting in a very long time, really since he was a kid.


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[Assistant] They have animated discussions everywhere. It's sort of Scotty's MO. And it's sort of Rainy's MO. Like that's why I think they fit so well together. That Scotty's gonna push back and Rainy's gonna push back and they've been doing this since he was a teenager. So I don't think any of that


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[Assistant] Is out of the ordinary. I would say it's more of a confidence thing at this point. Because speaking with him on Sunday when he walked off the course at Muirfield Village, he went through his card when I sort of brought up the idea.


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[Assistant] Do you feel like you're close or do you feel like you're miles away? Like where do we stand?


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[Assistant] And all of this, and he almost went hole by hole saying, well, left this one on the lip and this one was, you know, just the right edge. And, and he felt like.


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[Assistant] He, he pointed to one putt. He went through all 18 and he pointed to one putt on number 10 from three and a half feet that he missed. Didn't even touch the hole that he wanted back. And, and the point there, at least in his mind was, and this is probably what the best players do to themselves all the time. He's convinced himself that he's putting well. They're just not dropping right.


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[Assistant] I think there was a moment when I did ask him, because Thursday and Friday, he spent about an hour on the putting green after his round, which, and you asked me what stats stood out, so I thought


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[Assistant] How bad this is. I mean, the only putts he's making are essentially tap ins. I don't know after every round he would go to the putting ring and he's tinkering with putters now and he was even putting with a lob wedge. He said it helps him release the toe. All of it is starting to reach a point of desperation and to your point, they're wasting


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[Assistant] Great opportunities for victories here. I mean, the idea that you can hit the ball that well week in and week out is probably not realistic.


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[Assistant] And so you would think he needs to find some sort of fix soon.


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[Assistant] If you only give six shots to the field on the greens instead of eight and a half? Just be average.


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[Assistant] He was top third on tour last year, and I think he can get back to that, but at some point it becomes concerning. Again, this is the idea of going through the top five. Keep going down the top five. I thought what I saw at Patrick Cantlay was even more concerning on Sunday. I watched him warm up a little bit on the range. This trainer came out.


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[Assistant] It was kind of disturbing when you consider the kalamore kawa.


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[Assistant] Did something in his warm-up and tweaked his back and wasn't able to play. And then you look at John Rahm, who just kind of seemed flat. I mean, look, it's not as though I think John Rahm, I wouldn't put him in Scottie's territory because it's not as though he's doing one thing really, really poorly. He's just not at his normal standard. We've already addressed.


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[Assistant] Rory McElroy's wedge play. You can keep going down the list. I mean, I don't even know. Xander Shafle is probably the one that I feel like is.


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[Assistant] Yes, that's the one. And of the top five, I think if you look at, at least, and again, this is a recency bias, and it's, what have you done for me lately? And, but these are the top five players and you're just not seeing the production out of them. If in a second, you can't take anything away from Scottie Scheffler, but man, that's a glaring second.


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[Assistant] No, and I think that there was a really cool moment in the press center after the victory on Sunday where Jack Nicklaus does a really neat thing and he's in there with the winner's victory and he's kind of almost narrating it and it's a lot of fun to have him there talking about his golf course and the way this particular player played and Jack was almost in awe.


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[Assistant] Of listening to Victor talking about, look, I knew this was a problem early in my career. I knew I could not continue to stand over chips and realize, man, there's no way I'm going to get this anywhere close.


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[Assistant] If I short sighted myself, I knew it was a bogey already and how he sort of worked his way out of it. I'm going to do full disclosure here and look, this is 100% honesty. I did a radio interview Sunday morning.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, this was actually in Vegas, which is, you're like, I get really, really nervous because then they start talking about gambling, like, I'm better than you are, but not by much.


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[Assistant] So it gets a little scary. And they asked me point blank about Victor Hovland and I literally, I made this face since it was a visual medium. And no, no.


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[Assistant] The scrunchy face. If you think of it as a scrunchy face emoji, that's exactly what I look like with my face glowing red. And simply because of the reasons we just pointed out, I just don't have any faith in his short game. And look, he hits some chips Sunday at Muirfield Village that lead me to believe that, man, I still don't have a lot of faith in his short game, as you pointed out.


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[Assistant] Granny Bermuda is not his friend and that's what he's going to have at LACC.


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[Assistant] But I'm coming off that opinion more and more every day. And even, I don't even think he had to win yesterday. Certainly that is an impressive feat and sort of gets me. Oh I do.


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[Assistant] Especially that level. And look, if it was Rory in the playoff and maybe I would have held it to a higher standard, but that's still pretty good. I mean, this is, this is an invitational. These mean more than the others. These are player hosted invitational, as Rory talked about it, the sort of the legend slam. I'm still concerned about the short game, but I'm coming off that more and more by the day.


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[Assistant] More than anyone else, whatever that means. I mean, look, they all show up early. They all have yardage books. They all can learn the golf course, but there's going to be a comfort level there for him. And I don't see, we don't see Patrick excited very often when I interviewed him about what to expect. There was a,


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[Assistant] There was an edge to his voice that's normally not there, where you can tell this one means a little bit more than the other ones do. Now sometimes that doesn't work out very well, but I would put those two.


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[Assistant] Sort of ahead of the others. I mean, look, it's hard to ignore John Rahm. And the last time they played a West Coast Open, Torrey Pines, he won. We all know his affinity for the grasses, for the plays. And, uh, I'm not going to be surprised at all to see him in the mix. We've talked a lot about Scottie Scheffler, talked a lot about Rory McIlroy, but it would be Xander and Patrick that I would put on top of my list.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I think this is going to be a different US Open. I don't know, I can't make excuses for Brooks Kepka, I just can't anymore.


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[Assistant] Could he show up and win? Absolutely. I mean, we saw at the PGA Championship is Vintage Brooks.


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[Assistant] And I think you could probably say the same thing. I mean, Bryson DeChambeau seemed to find something at the PGA as well. Patrick Reed in the limited chances we've seen him at the Masters in the PGA has been pretty impressive. All of those guys could, like I'm not going to be surprised if any of them. I mean, I make the argument all the time that they were top 10 players.


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[Assistant] When they left to join live golf, they're still top 10 players. I just have such a hard time quantifying them because I don't have the data in front of me that we have for everyone else.


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[Assistant] I have rolled my eyes at you repeatedly over this one and I'm going to give you your moment. Trust me, you'll get your 90 seconds to sit and spew, but I will, I just want to say this, that there was a moment and it was even before the playoff was finished. Like it seemed pretty clear that Victor was going to win the playoff.


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[Assistant] Well, and to your point, she did what Tiger Woods did not do. Tiger Woods did not win his pro debut. So, you're right, I think it is.


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[Assistant] I guess my question back to you, and I'm probably not the one qualified to say this, and I'm only going to base it on some things I saw on social media, like Joe Ogilvie, former tour player, pointed it out. Did the LPGA kind of miss the bus on this? Did they miss the bus in promoting her?


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[Assistant] I mean, again, I'm very leery of being critical about something that I don't cover.


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[Assistant] And, and sort of watch intently, but it seems to me there was some pushback on social media.


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[Assistant] I will be curious, because again, if we're doing the Tiger Woods comparison, and this is easy. A lot of jealousy.


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[Assistant] This is easy a couple decades down the road. Yes, I'm sure there was, but I think that jealousy turned to appreciation.


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[Assistant] And not a long period of time, because again, and you can find tour pros.


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[Assistant] At every event who concede the fact that we should cut Tiger Woods 10% of our checks. Like they all understand that we are where we are because of Tiger Woods. And I think at some point, if she is what you seem to think, and a lot of people seem to think she is, I would hope.


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[Assistant] That the same sort of metamorphosis would happen on the LPJ. Will you realize that a rising tide? All boats, man. I mean, and if this is going to be that rising tide, then let's go out and enjoy it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I appreciate that. Uh, bunkmate reach out. She wants to know what we want to do for the birthday. So I think we're going to the beach for a couple days with some friends and the kitties. And so I don't know if I'll have a chance. I'm hoping as a, we've covered this before.


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[Assistant] Dying to know. I'm hoping a Blackstone, but we all know that it's just gonna be another big TV, and it'll be like, ah! Second TV!


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[Assistant] A 70 inch in the bathroom. Yea, that's perfect. Yea, that's exactly what we needed.


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[Assistant] Uh, yes, it's probably not going to be a Blackstone, which is so sad. I think I sent you a picture a couple of weeks ago about me doing smash burgers on my little tiny skillet on the grill.


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[Assistant] What are you gonna do about it? I will say this, and I can't give away any secrets here, but this is more, please reach out to us, let us know, you guys are great about getting back to us. What would you guys feel about if we were to get a sponsor that we would have to wear a jacket?


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[Assistant] That's right. Uh, but give us your thoughts on, on how your, if we did these podcasts in a red jacket, is he going to take away our credibility? Is he going to make Labner look silly? Like, let us know.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports NFL Podcast. I'm over in San Jose. It's a Tuesdays with Brady. Let's introduce Brady Quinn. Joining me to talk some NFL Draft. What's up fellas? Well, I mean, how long has it been?


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[Assistant] I said this on the podcast, uh, yesterday, so I don't want to like, you know, make, make the listeners hear the same story over and over again.


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[Assistant] Uh, we went, we saw an eight foot hammerhead on one of our dives down in, uh, down in the cave. It was like, it was, it was eat, it was hunting for food. I saw this hammerhead shoot up, spear this, uh, the stingray, like, like thrashing around, blood in the water.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, we was walking around like, anyway. Let's get going. We got a lot of stuff to cover for the draft. We're gonna play draft matchmaker today at all the various positions.


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[Assistant] Uh, let's get to the quarterbacks first. We have six quarterbacks that are really, uh, of high of, of, of note in this draft, obviously.


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[Assistant] The big three then joined by JG McCarthy who could slide in depending on where you think. And then Michael Penex and Bo Nix on the back end. We'll start of course with the guy who's going to go number one overall.


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[Assistant] Is, I'm curious what you guys think, and maybe you've answered this on here and I just forgot, but where does he, where does Kate Williams stack up as a prospect for you guys?


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[Assistant] You know, other recent top packs, whether it's like a Trevor Lawrence.


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[Assistant] Right down the board a little bit, we got Drake May and Jaden Daniels. Uh, so my mock draft went up, uh, on Tuesday, my third mock draft. I had Drake May going second overall to the commanders. I realized that that flies in the face of the current odds. Um, there were all the reports, all the reports out there that it's Jaden Daniels is going to be number two. Um, the, the, the odds,


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[Assistant] Yes, Brady. The odds in Vegas, say it would be Jayden Daniels opportunity, but the odds in Vegas are reactionary. They're not predictive when it comes to the NFL draft. I'm curious, Brady, where you would match up Jayden, what are you laughing at? You're muted, Brady.


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[Assistant] Do you, have you heard anything that indicates that Jayden Daniels is number two pick? I mean, have you talked to, do you like a super handsome former quarterback club with Cliff Kingsbury and you guys like message each other and he's like, Hey bro, like we're taking, we're taking him, uh, we're taking Jayden Daniels too overall. Did you get kicked out of that club recently? Like what's up with that?


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, and I think there's also a chance, you know, my mock, I had Jayden Daniels falling to the Viking or the Vikings trading up to five where they took Jayden Daniels. I, the point I was really trying to make wasn't necessarily, I think Jayden Daniels will fall, just that I think there's a possibility.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and worst case is, you know, the Giants can jump up to four if he falls there and you just, you know, the card will say, all right, we're getting one of the neighbors or normally care, or Marvin Harrison Jr. We'll just move down.


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[Assistant] Alright, two more guys to talk about who sort of fit in. Like I think it's, I mean, at this point, we'd be shocked if any of the top four guys got out of the top 10, right? I mean, like it feels like those four guys are, I mean, if, I mean, but like Michael, it depends on what happens.


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[Assistant] Wow, that would be shocking. Cause it feels like Michael Penex is a guy, uh, dudes who's been slotted in as at like 13th with the Raiders, uh, which is where you, you have been matched up as possibly going.


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[Assistant] All right, next, by the, Drew Brees, second round pick to the Chargers, obviously signed with the Saints in free agency. Worth noting, Broncos don't have a second round pick.


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[Assistant] Could see if Bo Nix falls out of the first round, which I think seems likely at this point or would be surprised. It wouldn't be shocking if he went first round, but I don't think it would be crazy if Sean Payton called up the Panthers and said, I'll give you next year's first for Bo, for this, for the 33rd overall pick.


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[Assistant] And you go get Bo Nix at 33 there. Carolina would love to get a future first, I think, after the fiasco that was the Bryce Young trade. Alright, let's take a break.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for sure. You trade down and get Bonyx because I think if you're 12, 12 is a little rich for Bonyx. We all agree I think as well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright, let's take a break when we come back. Wide receiver matchmaking, next!


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[Assistant] This wide receiver class in the 2024 NFL Draft is stacked now.


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[Assistant] You could talk, look, I know Brady, aka Bill Nye the Science Guy, who was spitting math on quarterback hand size, uh, or wide receiver hand size earlier, earlier in the podcast. Brady's also a big economics guy, dudes, don't know if you know that. Talk about scarcity.


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[Assistant] Um, opportunity cost. It's like he went to, he's like, he's like, he's like,


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[Assistant] Supply, demand, yeaah. I think it is interesting to see how many wide receivers end up going in the first round because you can make the cases like, alright, there's like 9 or 10 guys that you think could be first round picks, but at the same time, all of those guys,


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[Assistant] The fact that it's so deep allows people to say, or allows people to say, all right, maybe we can wait a little bit and get to, you know, grab somebody in the second round. We will see. Uhm, it's also the point.


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[Assistant] But we know at four, we're, I mean, we are getting Marvin Harrison and Malik neighbors. Like we know that for a fact. Maybe you could trade down to six if somebody wants to come up and get a quarterback and you can pick up an additional first round pick or something like that. Wouldn't have a problem with it. I don't see the Cardinals trading out of 11. I think they, I think they're just too good a fit for Marvin Harrison Jr.


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[Assistant] You're not, you're not, you're not a Pete Prisco acolyte who has Malik neighbors above Marvin Harrison then.


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[Assistant] So that, that was, that was really all Bruce Arians coming in and like that was his philosophy with the number one whiteout. He said he wants you to move around, not live on the outside.


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[Assistant] Uh, but that's mostly because I wasn't playing football professionally. Uh, alright, where would you, where would you match-make, uh, Malik Davis do that?


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, Rema Dunezay, Brady, you have, uh, Bear's Night, Bear's, to me, this is the, and I had this in my mock draft and, um, I don't think it's crazy to agree with it.


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[Assistant] Uh, I mean, I think if you go get Caleb Williams, I know they got Keenan Allen, they got DJ Moore, but.


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[Assistant] And have DJ Moore on the roster for the next three years. Who's the number one? Who's the number two?


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[Assistant] What's, what's your favorite, uh, guy that you matched up or what you give to one or two. If you want to, you guys both had 80 Mitchell to the bills. I know Adam Scheffler was on, um, it's worthy. It's worthy to the chiefs because it's, it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs because it's worthy to the chiefs


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[Assistant] The receivers could shake out all different kinds of ways. I think he's there either too. I heard Adam Schefter on Adam Levitan's established a run podcast. He's just been blindly asked name one guy who's going to go much higher in the draft than he's being projected. And he said AD Mitchell was the guy that he thinks will be long gone by the late 20s.


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[Assistant] Uh, you, you guys both mentioned, uh, Brady had Brian Thomas, Carolina, 33rd overall dues had, um,


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[Assistant] Uh, Xavier LeGette to the Panthers in the second round. Do you think there's a chance, I think this is realistic, that the Panthers, uh, do one of two things, and it depends on who's pulling the strings in Carolina.


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[Assistant] If it's David Depp or still the puppeteer, I think they could package those two second round picks, move into the first to grab a wide receiver. If Dan Morgan really has full control here, I don't think it'd be surprising if they just sat back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but yeah, I think, I think both of those guys make sense as a fit for the Panthers would be shocked if they didn't take someone there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Circus Sports opened up his over-under draft position 48 and a half for whatever it's worth. So that's, uh, Roman DJ 8.


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[Assistant] Fascinating to me how this, uh, running back class in the draft and this running back free agent class matched up with like,


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[Assistant] Five or six huge, like name, Derek Henry, Josh Jacobs, Saquon Barkley, you know, Tony Pollard, you can throw in there too. I mean, just an incredible group, Austin Eckler, like an incredible group of running backs. They hit the free agency market. And at the same time, you have a running back market in the draft that just doesn't feature any, like anybody that you think, I think the over-under was.


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[Assistant] Nothing is predictive. Was, uhm, .5 and minus 10,000 for, uh, the under on running backs in the first round. Cause obviously they see. I wonder what it is. I wonder what it is.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's actually, I like that fit. Brooks, Texas, Dallas, you know, they need to help with the running back position, maybe use a second round pick on. I think too, we've seen this in the past where it happened in


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[Assistant] Maybe 2013, like, Le'Veon Bell was a 2013 draft class, wasn't he? Where he, he fell to the second round. People were like, ah, this draft class is not really full. And there ended up being like, I think Gio Bonar was in that draft class. Ended up being like four or five guys who were taking in the second round.


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[Assistant] That ended up being, like, working out, and when you draft a running back in the second or third round, it really just eases up the pressure on that guy to be this 1500 yard a year monster. I mean, god, Derrick Henry was the second round guy too, by the way.


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[Assistant] In other words, I don't think that, uhm, Sean Payton likes anybody that was on his team before he got there.


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[Assistant] Alright, well first, alright that's fine. First we'll get to everyone's first tight end.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I, I would personally match Brock Bowers. You guys, everyone wants to give the Chargers a wide receiver.


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[Assistant] I wanted the Chargers to have two offensive linemen. And plus, who knows Brady, maybe the Jets would take him at 10. Oh, he did just take a visit there.


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[Assistant] Aduz, your number two tight end. This is the bombshell that Brady referenced.


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[Assistant] Several hundred, several hundred people in this draft. He's a football player. Uh, okay, let's go to some offense.


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[Assistant] They're all football. I know what you mean, I know what you mean. He's a football, he's just a guy, he's a guy who plays football. Right.


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[Assistant] But we can all, we can all live the luxurious South Florida lifestyle that allows us to be constantly based in 24 7 365.


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[Assistant] Moving along to the offensive line, Joe Alts. You guys both have, I haven't gone into, look, here's the thing that's kind of weird. It does.


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[Assistant] Yeah, seven. The issue here is that like, it feels like the, and this is, it feels like four, five, six, seven.


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[Assistant] Is kind of just sort of like set up too easily, you know, where, or maybe in five, maybe the trade, but it's like all these, it's like.


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[Assistant] It's like Harrison charges you to trade or maybe drops your lineman. And then it's like, they can take you all to five too, by the way. I wouldn't, I mean.


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[Assistant] Uh, but yeah, I mean like the Titans need offensive line help. He'd be a perfect fit and you have to think he fits the, uh, the Brian Callahan and Bill Callahan mold in terms of what they want in an offensive lineman, right?


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[Assistant] No, it's one year 5.5 million with zero dead money if they cut him.


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[Assistant] I mean that's a situation where if you draft a tackle in the first round, you'd almost prefer...


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[Assistant] Like, you want that tackle beating out Morgan Moses and then Moses is the backup option who doesn't want to get caught because he wants to make his money but understands that he might not be, you know, might not be starting.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Thelis Fullaga, Brady, you have, you think the floor is the Bengals there at 18. I think they're really fascinating because they've been tied to Brock Bowers a ton. They're not a team that trades up though. Uh, they, they've done this a lot in the past where they did it with, um, uh, yeah, the, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Oh, Jesse Bates. Jesse Bates, thank you. Good lord, sorry. Uh, yeaah, Jesse Bates left and then they, you know, they draft his replacement at when he's on the franchise tag.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's a bad spot unless like Penning makes a step forward. It doesn't sound like Ranchek will be ready for the season. All right. And Marshmills, JC Latham, Troy Fittano, Jackson Powers, Johnson and Graham Barton. Give me your favorite match out of that group.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Okay. Alright. Great stuff, fellas. You really lobbed out a lot of, uh, great, great matches there, Brady.


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[Assistant] I know, that's right, that's right. Very good stuff, as always. Alright, thanks for watching, thanks for listening. Hit the subscribe button, hit the like button. We're doing this for Brady Everett, so we'll see you guys later!


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, you mentioned a quarterback there, you know, you say, yeah, some players don't like it, most players don't like it, but you look at a guy like Kirk Cousins too, he's made a ton of money waiting it out.


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[Assistant] But ultimately, it is a good avenue if you're trying to get just a ton of cash upfront quickly, but I do understand from a, from a player standpoint that you do want that long-term stability. I mean, you know, I was on HQ with Brian McFadden yesterday and he was talking just about that. Like, Hey, you know, yeah, sure. The upfront money is great.


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[Assistant] A lot of these players are fighting to get to that second contract. They want to get paid a lot of money and also have that long term security. It oftentimes happens when they're coming out of these rookie deals and it's just a tough kind of speed bump for them to get there ultimately.


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[Assistant] It's one of those things too. I don't think we're ever going to see it. Cause if it didn't happen last off season with Lamar Jackson, basically out there for the taking for a lot of these teams. I don't know what other circumstances there are for a play. Like if Patrick Mahomes, I guess becomes available, then sure. You know, a team will come up, but you had.


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[Assistant] And at that point, an MVP caliber quarterback who was on to his second MVP.


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[Assistant] Out there for you. All you had to do was pay him money and give up two draft picks. I mean, you know, I'm, I'm up here in New England. There are three teams up at the top of the draft that are going to use a first round pick on a quarterback that


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[Assistant] Be good. I think if you can guarantee yourself that you're gonna have an MVP quarterback, you give up that other first round pick and you just pay the dude his money. I'm surprised it didn't happen last year and it makes me think that that's not gonna happen anytime soon.


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[Assistant] Did Lugair Blunt get the transition tag? You know that? That seems like a good guess.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's probably true. I mean, it's one of them. I mean, he was advocating for him to go to the Hall of Fame earlier this season in December. I think he's going to be kind of an interesting case study. I think you're going to see a lot of different opinions about whether or not he's a candidate for the Hall of Fame. You know, that's going to be a good topic of conversation, but from a just a Patriots 2024 standpoint,


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[Assistant] I think it's interesting. I mean, it's kind of a good time for him to go. Obviously moving on from Bill Belichick, but he was the leader or one of the leaders in that locker room. You're bringing in a lot of new faces. I almost kind of feel like he would have been great to kind of keep around for one more year to help you transition into the Gerard Mayo era.


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[Assistant] So, you know, from that standpoint, it could be a little shaky, but ultimately great player, you know, at his position, great leader and from the minimal interactions that I've had with them, swell guy and anything you ever hear from him, really nice dude.


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[Assistant] Ten Pro Bowls, a bunch of first team All-Pros, and he's got five, eight overall. I think like there were three of them were his second team All-Pro. He has accolades to potentially be a Hall of Famer. It's just, he's a special teams specialist, so I don't know if he gets it.


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[Assistant] There's no, like, number to really quantify how great he was other than just to say he was intemperable.


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[Assistant] I think it's a no doubt he gets tagged. I think it's, it's clear. I mean, you just referenced it. The front office said as much at the end of the season. They're like, we expect Josh Allen, or they said something even more definitive, like Josh Allen will be a Jaguar in 2024. So it's.


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[Assistant] You know, that seems pretty legit. He's coming off of a career year. He had this franchise record in sacks, 90 pressures. I mean the dude was one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. You don't let those guys go to market because it's almost impossible to retain them.


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[Assistant] It's a very, you know, this might be one of the easier tags or these decisions for Jacksonville. They can't lose a guy like this.


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[Assistant] And not only that, real quickly, you know, as much as you say how great he is,


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[Assistant] They need him for more ways than just keeping a homegrown talent. We always joke about the AFC South not being that competitive. It's about to flip over these next few years with CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson coming back. You need to disrupt these quarterbacks and a guy like Josh Allen can help you do that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's, well, that's the thing though. Yes, because of the player and because of the talent, but where this team is right now,


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[Assistant] Does it make sense for them to really invest that much into that player or is he a great, like you were mentioning, tag and trade?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would say keep him for sure. I mean, he's definitely...


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[Assistant] Someone that, you know, this team, I know they almost kind of are getting, you know, under looked as to how much they could legitimately be in the Super Bowl conversation next year.


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[Assistant] And I, I know that you have to pay, obviously the Borough of Marie is coming in. You have to pay Jamar Chase, but this is a team.


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[Assistant] That could very easily be in the Super Bowl next year. And I don't think that they should be in the business of losing players. Now, if you don't want to sign them to a long-term deal, I could kind of get that. But for 2024, I definitely keep this guy aboard to see what the heights of this franchise can be.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I tag him. I think I let him, I think I bag him. I don't know if this team is a Saquon Barkley tag away from competing in the NFC East. I don't know if, you know, as much as he's meant to the franchise and I get all of those angles to why you would want to keep him around,


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[Assistant] I don't know if he'd be happy on the tag, so if you tag him and that's all you want to do, I don't know if that really...


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[Assistant] Right, exactly. It's not like, but it's a great point. It's not like you can just say, oh, he's tagged, he'll be totally fine with it. Sometimes with these players, you tag them and they're pissed about it. They don't want, they don't want this at all. And you're almost creating a volatile situation as much as you want to keep the player.


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[Assistant] You only want to keep them at a certain number and they don't like the number. Sometimes it's just not, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. And for Barclay, I just don't know if this is one of those situations where you can tag them and ultimately hope to keep them in 2024. I think it might be a maybe tag and trade at best.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think so. I think he's someone that is...


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[Assistant] Good for the system, familiar obviously with Gerard Mayo. I think that he's someone you try to emphasize to keep around at a relatively, you know, decent number for safeties. And he's played extremely well. Versatile, can play, cover safeties, can work in the backfield, you know, in the back end of the, in secondary.


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[Assistant] I just feel like he's somebody who could potentially develop into that leadership role as well. I mean, we're just talking about Matt Slater.


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[Assistant] I think that he's somebody that could eventually, not only for his contributions on the field, but also from a locker room standpoint, I think he buys into a lot of what Dorad Mayo is selling.


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[Assistant] No, I think that you're right. I think that there's probably a handful of guys the Patriots want to retain. He's certainly one of them. I think Michael Wenner's another one. Hunter Henry's another one.


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[Assistant] You know, this is a team in transition. He's young enough that you could start to kind of build these pieces with. He could be one of the leaders on defense. I just think that this makes a lot of sense, not only as a tag, but as you mentioned, as an extension as well.


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[Assistant] To get to the Super Bowl, and a lot of that was because of your defense. I know that obviously Lamar won MVP, but the calling card for this Ravens team was their defense. You mentioned it.


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[Assistant] They lost their defensive coordinator. And as we've seen over the last few years, when you lose those coordinators, it's a huge deal sometimes. And so if you want stability, if you want to keep this team and firing on all cylinders on that side of the ball, you try to keep as many playmakers as possible. This dude, again, 26 years old, it's a no brainer.


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[Assistant] I think this is one of those things that we saw in New York last year, right? Where it was, you know, are they gonna tag, are they gonna be able to tag Saquon because they got Daniel Jones under contract and they kind of swoop in under the rug, kind of get that thing done quickly.


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[Assistant] I think you kind of go into that same kind of mode here with Tampa Bay. I would be prone to do everything I can to keep the quarterback, especially if you feel like he's a guy that you can have in the next few years, like you were saying, Breach.


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[Assistant] But I also look at Antoine Winfield and you know, anytime I turn the bucks on this year, this dude was making plays. I mean, he was not only just piling up stats, I think he had like six sacks. You know, I think he led the league in fours fumbles or was tied for the lead in fours fumbles. He was a key anchor for them defensively.


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[Assistant] And so I kind of lean on keeping him, but again, I don't know how you can look into the abyss at quarterback and just say, all right, let's see what happens. Because if you're Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] Like I know that you had a successful season in Tampa Bay, but you're not going to look around after that great year and see.


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[Assistant] I don't know if, I don't know if that happens. I think, you know, I think that there's a scenario-


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[Assistant] I think that's exactly what's gonna happen there. I think that that's the situation that they find themselves in just because of their cap constraints. Ultimately I think that he might be one of the biggest beneficiaries of not being


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's crazy how similar their, like, inevitability is to this, to the most previous Patriots kind of run of Super Bowls. It reminds me the same exact thing. It's, it's pretty remarkable.


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[Assistant] It was a lot harder to say that going into the postseason, especially after seeing the wide receiver struggle the way that they did. We all thought that was going to be their Achilles heel.


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[Assistant] But you know what? They played great defense, they could run the football, and they still had Travis Kelce and Patrick Holmes and Andy Reid running the show on the sidelines.


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[Assistant] When you have stuff like that, it's just, it's hard to take down, especially a guy like Patrick Mahomes who can literally change a game on a dime. So they're, they're a team that I think you can now just pencil in like you could the Patriots the last few years. The floor is the AFC championship. Wake me up when they get there and let's see what happens.


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[Assistant] Like, again, it's just eerily similar to how I watched the last few years with Brady and Belichick, with Andy Reid and Patrick Holmes.


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[Assistant] They also have this, you know, I said inevitability, but they also have this like weird voodoo magic where all of a sudden these teams just make these crazy mistakes and they just pounce all over it and they win the game. I mean, a muffed punt in the super bowl where it kind of kicks a returner in the ankle and they somehow get into the red zone and they score a touchdown, it completely flips the game.


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[Assistant] That stuff doesn't happen all the time, but it does seem to happen to the Kansas City Chiefs, very similar to how often it happened with New England. It's just, it's one of those things where just, I don't know if it's luck or if it's voodoo or whatever is going on there, but they have that thing that really centers around them winning as well.


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[Assistant] Who do you think that is now? Who is the team that should preach patience?


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[Assistant] For the situation that they have as opposed to, like you're saying, like, pull a Carolina and just, and just blow it up.


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[Assistant] I think Jonathan Gannon in Arizona is one too. I think that he's, you know, I think he kind of got clowned on when he first got hired.


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[Assistant] In Arizona, and then you know what? They were kind of spunky. They weren't like, they weren't awful. They weren't terrible. And if Kyler Murray's even somewhat decent, I think that this team, even if they struggle a little bit out of the gate, I think that he's a, he's a decent head coach. I think that actually will be all right.


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[Assistant] Perfect, it flows right in and you know, it's something that I think we can look at this offseason when we're starting to look at futures and twin totals and all of that.


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[Assistant] Bet on teams that emphasize their infrastructure and their stability. If there's a lot of coaching changes specifically at the coordinator spots, you might want to stay away.


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[Assistant] Philadelphia Eagles were coming off a Super Bowl. They kept Nick Sirianni. They still had Jalen Hurts, A.J. Brown, all these studs. You think, you know what, they're going right back. They were my pick to get into the Super Bowl against the Ravens. They were my pick to win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] This year, one thing that I overlooked was the fact that they lost both of their coordinators. That's, you know, we just look at it from a rookie quarterback standpoint to go, Oh, that screws up their development. But when you lose two guys that are running your offense and defense, don't overlook that because so when we're looking at Baltimore and they lost Mike McDonald.


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[Assistant] But you know what, he was the reason for a lot of their success. You can't just put it on John Harvey. You can't just put it on those players and that defense. He was part of that success. How much? We'll find out. But for me, sometimes I feel like it might be wiser to just stay away. One of the underrated things I think already of this offseason.


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[Assistant] And that's particularly my point. Below the surface, it's not just head coach and quarterback. There's that other stuff that you have to look at.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think it was a mistake. I understand what he's saying when he does the math that he wanted the third possession. He was working on the assumption that it was score first. And they were steamrolling the Chiefs early on in that game, mostly with Christian McCaffrey. And it's not unreasonable to think that they could have scored a touchdown there. Uhm, and by the way, Joanne Jennings was open.


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[Assistant] The problem is they didn't block Chris Jones on that final play where they had to settle for the field goal in overtime. Um, so if they just block Chris Jones, and that seems like a pretty important part of any sort of game plan, uh, Brock Pretty would have had time to get the ball to Jo- to Joanne who had won a little return right, I believe. So I get it. I understand what he's saying and you know,


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[Assistant] So I can see both sides. The point Breach makes, I get it. You're not going to go for it on fourth and one on your own 38 yard line. If you have the first possession, uh, unless you're Dan Campbell and you would hope


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[Assistant] And by the way, hope it's in the plan. You would hope after you punt it, you can slow a patch from the homes and that never seems to work. You have to score a touchdown there. And I think in addition to the fourth and one that Breach talked about, the inability to block Chris Jones is also something you can point the finger at as to why they didn't score a touchdown on that first overtime drive.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean they faltered in the moment and I don't think that means they didn't know the rules. I just think that uhm, like I would, I would imagine Kyle Shanahan is perpetually prepared, but this isn't the first time he's shirked in, uh, shrinked in, in big moments, especially in the, in the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] To answer your question, Breach, uh, Dan Campbell's taking the ball first. He's going to touchdown and he's going for two.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I mean, he was, he's been that way throughout the entire season. I mean, we've seen bouts of frustration because the receivers can't catch or they're running the wrong route or Kaderi's Tony's lined up off sides. But, um, I mean, they won because of him. The defense played out of its mind. Chris Jones again was a difference maker, but I think Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] Pete and BMAC talked to Isaiah Pacheco after the game on the field and they asked him what did.


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[Assistant] Patrick's say in the huddle in that last drive after the 49ers took the field goal. I'm like, yeah, I didn't say anything because we knew what we had to do at that point. And I guess to back to Patrick's larger point and that they discuss these things.


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[Assistant] Uh, ad nauseum from August till now. So there's really nothing left to do, but to go out and do it. And maybe that's the takeaway as well that it became muscle memory at that point, whereas it looked like the 49ers at least, uh, in overtime felt like they were present.


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[Assistant] He said he blacked out. He's probably happy he caught the ball. I mean, he's had some rough patches as Patrick talked about after the game to Tracy Wolfson. So just be happy he caught the ball, whether he knows the rules or not. He doesn't need to know the rules. Just know which way to go. He got in the end zone on that final play on what felt like an easy pitching catch, but, um,


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[Assistant] It was a rough path for, for Michal to get that. By the way, Michal had that huge catch earlier in the game to play before Isaiah Pacheco fumbled. So this was probably one of his best games in a while. Uhm, I think he's, he's.


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[Assistant] No, I thought he didn't have a good game. I mean, like I said early on, they leaned on the run game. Christian McCaffrey was running all over the Chiefs defense. They had very few answers.


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[Assistant] Uh, the problems came, and this has been a recurring theme for Brock, is that, uh, he's not that tall, and he is susceptible to getting passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. The Chiefs are really good at knocking down passes at the line of scrimmage, we saw that. The other issue is that,


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[Assistant] While typically Debo and Brandon Iook can just run through by over guys, Trent Mcduffey, Ligeria Snead are legit. Now they're some of the best players in the NFL in their respective positions. And Trent Mcduffey, I don't know if he said it here or heard it somewhere else, but there's an argument to be made that he could have been running for MVP as well with the way he played that game. And I just think they ran out of bullets.


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[Assistant] I don't think Brock Purdy did anything, um, outrageous. The third of the use check, he spun out of a couple tackles, was a good, was a great play.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he was going right and then he came back and came left to Christian McCaffrey. He had a nice little run down the sidelines on a little dump off. It was also a good play. Had a couple of anticipation throws that he's done throughout the year repeatedly.


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[Assistant] But he wasn't asked to do too much. I guess you could argue he had a couple of Jimmy G moments where he overthrew guys who were potentially, uh, gonna have touchdowns. The Debo one initially was a PBU by Trent McDonough, but the other one I think he overthrew.


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[Assistant] Either I yoke or maybe Debo again later in the game, but I had no issue with the way he played and no one's talking about it because he had nothing to do with the outcome. I think every there are 10 other reasons as to why the 49ers found themselves in the position they did and Brett Purdy was not it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but they could have run the ball at 28 to three. That's the talking point there. They could have not taken the ball first and overtime. That's the talking point that Breach mentioned earlier. There are reasons that Kyle Shanahan OC slash coach.


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[Assistant] They lost these games. I mean, it's, yes, Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes, but they didn't maximize every opportunity either.


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[Assistant] Uh, if you're being kind to Brock Bertie, you can also say that the 49ers struggled to keep their playmakers on the field. Debo left with a hammy, he did come back, Kittle went out for a moment, they did lose Drake Greenlaw, and you could argue that defensively that was the biggest adjustment. Oren Brooks came in and he...


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[Assistant] Consistently, that's when Travis Kelsey started lighting things up. One catch, one yard in the first half, and then Travis had nine for 93, I believe, by the time it was all said and done.


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[Assistant] I don't think injuries are a concern because everyone at this point is really banged up. Joe Tooney didn't play. Nick Alagridi had to come in and play, left tackle and uh, availed himself nicely. He started back in 90, uh, back in the 54 Super Bowl, Super Bowl 54 cause Tooney wasn't there yet. Um, anybody want to point your fingers at the injuries as, as the reason that Kyle Shanahan turtled up?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you see the replay. Fred, Fred Warner's got his, his hands on his head. Like, Oh my God, what just happened?


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[Assistant] I feel like, uh, Washington may had a kicker turn early in the 80s. Uhm, there's the, uhm,


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[Assistant] Super Bowl III was, it was, uh, you talked about this. Ended on a field goal by a rookie. That was Super Bowl III, right?


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[Assistant] So there's that one. I don't know if there are any great punting performances to come to mind. I think this is it because, you know, we obviously know about the Kickers both setting records ahead of one another and then the punting was


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[Assistant] Spotless. And I'll be honest, one of the things that made me most jealous watching that game was that the Steelers punter has never hit a ball more than 35 yards down the field. So to see both punters absolutely smoking and changing field position when they have pretty crappy field position, that had a lot to do with, I think, in part, the low score, at least early on. So yeah, I'll give you that.


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[Assistant] By the way, uhm, Ray Ray McLeod could have also just fallen on the ball. He tried to pick it up, which also- Yes.


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[Assistant] I get it, but, I mean, three years ago we were talking about how Tom Brady has seven.


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[Assistant] And the Patriots have six. And everything that he and Bill Belichick did together. And look, I give the Chiefs a ton of credit. Andy Reid's been around the block. He just didn't show up two years ago and started winning all these games he's been around since the, probably the 80s, definitely the 90s. And he had all that success with


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[Assistant] With uh, Philadelphia, by the way, he might be the OG Kyle Shanahan. He never could win in Philly and then he needed to change the scenery. So.


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[Assistant] Maybe that's uh, that's Kyle Shanahan's future at some point. Maybe we'll get traded to the, to the Bengals and the Bengals will start winning Super Bowls for each. But I think, look, if they win the next two in a row, then yes, no, no, not going to argue for me seven or otherwise. But right now I'm willing to remember that not too long ago, uh, the, the Patriots were virtually unbeatable.


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[Assistant] But this was the same conversation we had about Peyton and Tom. I mean, don't get mad, get better.


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[Assistant] I mean, Breach talked about it last night. She feels like she's a legit fan. I wonder now that she's won a Superbowl in her first go round, if she's just going to stay on tour and not be as at many games or if they get engaged and then what does that look like? He flies in from LA to do the games Travis Kelsey does. I mean, there are a lot of moving parts that Breach here, the pop culture correspondent. I would imagine you have a better take on this than I do.


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[Assistant] I think the odds make sense for him to be the favorite. I don't know that I'm going to play him at plus 350, but you know, it's probably going to end up being fine value. I think it's, it'll be lower than that by the time we get to week one. So if you want to play it now, I think that's fine. It's also a situation where we know where he's going to end up.


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[Assistant] Uhm, initially expected him to be in the 15-16 range. Market has pounded him over. He might get down to like 20s.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that makes it easier for the bills to trade out for them. The bills need a number one receiver.


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[Assistant] And if he's the number one receiver in Buffalo catching fast from Josh Allen, he's going to put up stats. So I think he, he's a good value at 20 to one.


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[Assistant] If they can't get him and they stay at where they are, I think Adonai Mitchell becomes the pivot at 35 to 1 as a potential receiver one, but it's really going to come down to where these guys land.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're comfortable putting this number out though because they know what team he's going to be on. You wouldn't put this out for, for Jayden Daniels at this point because you need to know what offense he's playing in.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, I think, you know, 200 yards per game should be his floor, so if he's playing 17 games.


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[Assistant] That Bears defense was amazing in the second half last year, played very well. So if they are controlling the games and allow the Bears to win these lower scoring games, and he doesn't have to throw as much, put him more at risk, you know, hand off some, uhm, he might not get there, you know, if he, if he is just not going to have these high volume games.


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[Assistant] You know, indications are, you know, that he's rated close enough to these other guys that I think it could matter. I mean, they just got rid of the Daniel Snyder era. They just got out of that.


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[Assistant] Are you going to go right back into having, you know, potential drama? A guy has said maybe he doesn't want to play there. All these reports coming out. If there is like any fire to that smoke at all, I just think you can't risk having the same old Washington kind of branding coming out of this draft.


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[Assistant] So, you know, Rick Spielman on this, on CBS Sports Packets with the first pick, I think has.


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[Assistant] Kind of said that he thinks Drake May should be the pick there, so I'm gonna go with that.


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[Assistant] Going number two, crash down Friday morning as Drake may got a lot of love. We're seeing that start to build up again. Maybe somebody knows something. Maybe it's like last year when at this time, Will Levis was the odds on favorite to go number two at minus 120. Obviously that did not happen. He did not go in the first round.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna play May here just as a value, uhm, cause I don't think the market should be as confident as it is with Daniels going number two.


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[Assistant] So I'm actually going to pair Williams-May with McCarthy at plus 850. Um, some reports suggest Pats are happy with May or Daniels. Elliott Wolf, they're, they're acting GM. There seems like a big McCarthy fan. I think he'll pound the table for McCarthy if it's between those two guys. I think McCarthy's an easy sell to Robert Kraft as a proven winner, coached by Jim Harbaugh, coming out of the program that, that spit out Tom Brady all those years ago.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, the actual market for the number 5 pick doesn't have McCarthy favored. I think it has Mike neighbors favored, uhm, and McCarthy like plus 450, but.


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[Assistant] McCarthy will get into his favorite to be a top five pick somewhere. So, so, you know, for that to happen, it's probably going to be a trade up. In my scenario where he goes to New England, I like the pick of Williamsby, McCarthy, Daniels at number four and Harrison at number five. If I'm right about the top three, Daniels is a great fit for Brian Dayball.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and you know, to build him up like he did with Josh Allen. I think that's a great landing spot for Daniels too, and they're going to maximize his potential there.


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[Assistant] And uh, the cards will be happier moving down to 6th and 11th and falling out of that range for a blue chip talent. Uhm, I also think the cards, if they do that,


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[Assistant] Call up the Chargers and get them to flip five for six just to make sure they get Harrison. I think the Chargers are a team that, uh, you know, people will project them in this situation with the four quarterbacks go. Oh, they got Marvin Harrison. That's it. That's amazing. You know.


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[Assistant] How could they have this opportunity? I think Jim Harbaugh wants an offensive lineman. I think Ault might be the pick at five.


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[Assistant] In a more traditional top four where Harrison goes number four anyway, if they can't trade the pick. Uhm, so in order to flip five to six and take all it's six and get some extra draft capital, I think they'll be okay with that. That's why I like.


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[Assistant] But, you know, why, so why play the top five number when you can just take him fifth at plus 400 if you think the Chargers are going to go that direction. That being said, plus 400 is a pretty good value for, for a direction a lot of people think the Chargers are going to go if they can't engineer a trade down.


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[Assistant] Or if the trade happens above them with the Cardinals at four, like I proposed with the Giants, uhm, and they're stuck there, do they take the receiver, or do they wait on the receiver in a class with a lot of depth at receiver and go with JoeAlt? I know the class has a lot of depth that offensive tackle too.


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[Assistant] But uhm, you know, we expect 10 offensive linemen to go in the first round. I mean, there might not be great options when they pick in the second round. So uhm, could easily be alt at number four, uh, at number five here. I think the only other option in the top five market is to look at J.J. McCarthy. I mean, the speculation has been he's gonna get go top five. His number to go under five and a half has danced around.


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[Assistant] And uhm, we've seen those odds, uh, you know, connecting the two drop. We saw the layout to allow to go from a long shot to be the first defender drafted to around plus two 30 last week.


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[Assistant] Today on Monday, we saw a big change in the odds for number eight. We saw him move in most markets, either being tied for the favorite or some, a little bit of the favorite over turner for the number eight pick. And so maybe a little bit behind. So I think a lot of smoke there to say a lot to could be a number.


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[Assistant] Also, don't rule out Byron Murphy at plus 250 here. His stock is on the rise in the betting market, really, you know, considered like he could slip because, you know, there's not many teams that have defensive linemen as their top need. So when you go connecting players to teams and mock drafts, you look at offensive line here, offensive line there, and where does Murphy go? A lot of people project them down to like, you know, 18 on the bank rules, but.


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[Assistant] The market has been betting him under, betting him under. He's now favored to go under 14 and a half. I think there's a solid chance he's the first defender drafted. Could even be as early as A to Atlanta, would be a major presence in the middle of that line because what he does attacking from the interior is very hard to find.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I don't think it's really scheme specific for some of these guys. Like Log2 I think is going to rack up stacks wherever he goes. So I think he's a good value right now at plus 700. Wherever he ends up, I think it's going to be a good value.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna throw out a major sleeper here. We were gonna talk round one picks, didn't have time to do it.


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[Assistant] I was going to bring this guy up there. I'm going to bring him up now for Defensive Rookie of the Year, Junior Colson.


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[Assistant] Plus 6000, potential tackle machine for the Seattle Seahawks.


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[Assistant] Seattle is a team that is a trade down candidate. They're always a trade down candidate. They have surprised before with a round one linebacker going with Jordan Brooks when he had Bobby Wagner on the, on the, the.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Junior Colson for his team and teams like Dallas, Green Bay, Arizona, Buffalo could all be trade-up options to get to number 16 picking.


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[Assistant] Offensive linemen, defenders, if you're, if you're Green Bay, um, Arizona, I think with all their draft capital can move up. Take Marvin Harrison, number four, then move up for a defender in that 16 range. Buffalo obviously needs a receiver. Seattle gets down in the, in the 20s, especially the late 20s. I think Junior Colesins in play is around one pick.


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[Assistant] Starts from day one in Seattle, piles up a bunch of tackles, talked about it with his leadership and all these glowing phrases and he's now in the mix at plus 6,000 to be the Rookie of the Year. I love that RJ.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, now we're getting to the good stuff. The stuff I've been tracking over at sportsline over the last week, uhm, of how these odds have moved. Uhm, he has been trending under here. That has scaled back over the last day or two. Uhm, his under position has come down a little bit. A circuit drop is under to minus 125. I think under is a play. If you're getting juice around minus 125, not really looking to play it at minus 150.


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[Assistant] In our odds tracker, he has trended massively toward the under since his release. This was minus 190 to the over of less than a week ago and now it's.


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[Assistant] Very heavily juiced to the under. Uhm, I like playing over plus 180 at DraftKings in case the age and the medicals cause his stock to be more Will Lepus than anything, but I do also like following that JJ Train, sprinkling on him to go 8 or 9 as a trade-up spot.


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[Assistant] Um, so I think there's two, a couple different ways you can play. Pennix, you can play the over on 32 and a half in case, you know, all this is smoke.


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[Assistant] And then you can also play in the top 10, which I think even just a top 10 pick might be like.


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[Assistant] It's basically been one-way action in the market on the over. Circa has actually moved their line to 34 and a half and it's still minus 175 on the over. I think the under at plus 170 at DK is the value. Broncos are the clear favorite to take him still. Everybody thinks that's a perfect match.


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[Assistant] They don't have a second round pick, so they're not going to do it in round two unless they make a trade. I think more likely is that they, if they can't trade up for a quarterback and they don't have, you know, the second round pick to help them do it, I think they can trade down to the 20s and take Knicks there. Uhm, I think you could sprinkle a little bit on him to end up in Minnesota or Vegas at plus 600 each.


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[Assistant] To cover your bases on, on the Denver trade-up scenario, but uhm, I think pairing those with an under a plus 170, uhm, and thinking Denver finds a way to get down to the 20s to take him, this is the way to go.


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[Assistant] You know, the mocks have consistently put him at number nine with Chicago. The market has consistently put him under eight and a half and both of those things can't be right. Obviously, Atlanta could be a good trade spot for someone to come and get him at number eight.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the value to me is just playing the plus 135 on the over, not banking on a trade. You know, trade ups are more common to pay that premium draft capital to get it for a quarterback than a receiver. Uhm, especially the third receiver in the class by a lot of evaluators. Uhm, you know, boards, some have them too, some might even have them won.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, the market have been circling him around number 12 over the last week. You know, a lot of, some places over 11 and a half juiced, some places under 12 and a half juiced. Despite those mocks, like you said, generally putting him 10th, but the odds have largely shifted in that direction.


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[Assistant] Over the last few days, Circuit now has a minus 145 to go under 11 and a half as of Monday, so that kind of more points to number 10. I think under is a solid call if you can get a good number. Will depend, I think, on whether the Jets have a crack at Odunze. I think they would take Odunze over Bowers if they had both of them in front of them. Uhm, but you know, we'll see what happens ahead of them in the draft.


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[Assistant] Yeah, major shift in the odds Monday related to Turner. Latou moved, uh, like I said, to the favorite to go number eight at some books or around the favorite. Last year we saw Nolan Smith make a slimmer move for the Falcons around this time. Bichon ended up back as the favorite. Was there pick? I think there's some fire to that smoke.


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[Assistant] Latu would be a beast for Morris. Uhm, the question is whether Dallas Turner, uh, goes number nine to Chicago. So my lean is to the over here. I don't think you'll find a good price at this point. And then if you look at Latu, I think you would take the under. He's steamed for the under. Teams are comfortable with his medicals. He's the top defender. I have, I bet him plus 350 to be the first defender taken.


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[Assistant] I think that's a real option now that he's favored close to to go number eight. So you can still find juice on under 16 and a half at him at minus 135 as of Monday morning would play that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, things stay away from me, but if you want to, want to do needle in the haystack type of thing, I looked for this pick having special teams relevance at returner with the new kickoff rules.


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[Assistant] The Jets currently hold the pick. They could be in the market for receiver or running back depth with return capabilities for those players. My lead would be to running back at plus 8.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pick 6 Podcast. I'm Katie Mox here with Will Brinson and of course we have our two sports line superstars, prop stars and RJ White. Brinson and I are coming at you live from Las Vegas here for the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Brinson, well first of all, this episode of Pick Six is brought to you by FanDual. Make every moment more. But Brinson, talk to us about what Pick Six has been doing here in Vegas in your last episode.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we did a segment there with Chris Hassel. So it's been great. Obviously check all of those out, guys. Uhm, on the feed. You can check it out on HQ as well. And while you're there, make sure you like, comment, and subscribe to the Pick 6 Podcast. Uh, guys, if you like-


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[Assistant] Exciting note, uh, let's pull up our betting record for the conference championships. Somebody.


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[Assistant] You know what's so funny is that I feel like I won the regular season and then I've completely bombed in the postseason. I feel like I've been the last of the, uh, of all of us.


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[Assistant] I'm curious what your thoughts are, guys, about betting the Super Bowl, right? Because there's two ways to go about it. One, it's a Super Bowl. It's fun. It's the last time that you can do it. You get in on crazy bets. Like, will there be a doink, which we've got a doink cam now, uh, cam now with CBS, so hopefully, or a coin toss.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Butcher had a doink actually in the last, um, Super Bowl. But what's your advice to betting the Super Bowl? Is it, obviously you don't want to go crazy, RJ, but it is fun. Do people start chasing? Like, what's your Super Bowl?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and also guys, if you want a lot of picks, then you gotta make sure that you sign up at sportsline.com. Use the promo code PICK and get your first month for just one dollar. No better time!


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[Assistant] Then to get in at the Super Bowl, uhm, and speaking of, alright, let's, let's talk about it.


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[Assistant] I like how political you're, uh, getting with this, uh, podcast. Stop the count. Hey, hey, hey. Uhm, alright, Brinson.


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[Assistant] Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm experiencing, experiencing it, uh, right now. By the way, Brynston and I both have a little bit of casino voice, guys, you know, walking through these smoke-filled places, um, does something to your, um,


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[Assistant] Your voice box. But alright, let's, let's talk game, guys. Let's just like get right into it. San Francisco 49ers laying two and a half at Kansas City. This total 47 and a half. Uh, you know, we were kind of predicting where this line would go. Um, RJ, did you think it would get up to two and a half?


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[Assistant] Yeah, now I'm actually surprised about it as well, but it's not stopping me. We're betting the 49ers money line, okay? But we all know where I stand on this one. You don't exactly need my analysis. Princeton, what do you like?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm going to take the first half under and basically for all the reasons that you just laid out and especially


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[Assistant] So I do think they're gonna run the ball, uhm, a lot. And I, I, look, we've seen it in the past several years. Defenses come out really strong. Now, last year, the first half actually hit the over. I believe it was 24 to 14 in the first half. But other than that, it's gone under this number, uh, in three of the last four Super Bowls.


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[Assistant] Well, I was going to say, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we are looking at Super Bowl profits, including some novelties. Viva Las Vegas. This is Pick Six. Don't go anywhere.


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[Assistant] Uhm, what's up everybody? Katie Mocks here and Brynson. We're in Vegas, right? Give us a little bit of a break here. Also with Propstars and RJ White.


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[Assistant] Uh, now we're gonna look at some player props and novelty props for the Super Bowl, Kansas City Chiefs versus the 49ers, starting with passing props. We've got Brock Purdy and then we've got Patrick Mahomes. RJ, who are you, uh, who are you zeroing in on?


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[Assistant] yards passing and 67% of year, but you got to give to Casey's, you know, pas allowed less than 200 yard on average all season lo Jackson in the AFC chan for 272. But I think we ca that was a mistake. He wa to play hero ball when th running the ball. I don't


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[Assistant] that Shanahan is going to think he's going to aban when you look at the NFC the 49ers were down, Shan and Purdy doesn't do that m like we've all said, th


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[Assistant] But look, he's come a long way since the beginning of the season. Obviously he had some very key drops there. But if you look back into the past two postseason games, he's had exactly two receptions in each of those games. So it's really like,


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[Assistant] He's, he's had at least four receptions, I believe, for the last five games too. So even if they're not trailing, I think he's still gonna hit this.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm looking at Deebo Samuel actually for this. His rushing yards line is set to fifteen and a half.


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[Assistant] And the thing with this is that, I mean, we keep talking about how we're all fading rock purdy and the passing game. And I think a lot of people forgot, oh, it's at 16 and a half now. I'd still take the over.


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[Assistant] Debo had his best year rushing in 2021. He had over 502 rushing yards. I think we're going to see a lot more design runs for Debo in this game. So to get over the 15 and a half, uhm, I just really like this one a lot. I think also that the Chiefs struggle with outside runs and Debo has no problem getting to the outside. So that's where I'm going. What do you think, RJ?


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[Assistant] And, and you gotta think, and we were talking about Steve Welks earlier too, he kinda does more like light boxes, but you can't stack the box against Patrick Mahomes, so I, I don't know how they're gonna stop Pacheco, how that front seven, uh, is gonna be able to do it, but that-


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[Assistant] I think that Kansas City fans are the most worried about Christian McCaffrey as we are almost about, you know, Patrick Mahomes. Like he's our only hope, Christian McCaffrey. And like you said, everybody wants to get in on the anytime touchdown market for McCaffrey, but it's going to cost you. It's anywhere from like 220. I've seen it minus 420 in some places. So maybe you want to throw in a par like I don't know.


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[Assistant] which is unbelievable. But look at Christian McCaffer touchdowns in the first hal half all season long. He touchdowns and four receiv first half, you look at th


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[Assistant] One, they're going to give the ball to Christian McCaffrey a lot. Two, you know he's going to score in every single game. If you get him in the first half, it's a plus one point.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright guys, let's talk defense and special teams. Unfortunately, we don't have breach on this podcast. I'm sure we get a good kicker one. Uhm, but I will start. I'm looking at Fred Warner over eight and a half tackles and assists.


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[Assistant] We're talking about Travis Kelsey a lot in this, right? And he's coming off of a phenomenal AFC championship game, 11 of 11, 116 yards and a score. He's got to go up though in the middle of the field against these linebackers, most notably Fred Warner and of course Greenlaw there as well. I think he's going to have a successful game. So I'm going to take him over eight and a half for total tackles.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I was gonna, I have to sneeze, but I think I've passed it. Uh, we are gonna do the pick six parlay now, guys, and, uh,


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[Assistant] We never hit on the pick six parlay this entire season long. So we are switching things up for the Superbowl instead of doing, you know, money line and then the one dog. We are actually going to do long shot bets.


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[Assistant] So at least 10 to 1 odds. Uhm, and of course the person with the best record previously goes first. That's not changing. So, Cropstars, you had the best.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm gonna do George Kittle for the first touchdown at that 11 to 1 as well. And RJ, you kind of hit on it in your jersey thing. One of the names that you put out there was George Kittle. Now, he's not the most likely of those three with Kelsey and CMC, but


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[Assistant] An explosive run and an explosive play, so I wouldn't be totally surprised if he gets the first touchdown and that is at 11 to 1.


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[Assistant] This Pick Six Super Bowl Longshot segment has been presented by Fandol. Make every moment more. What are our total odds here? Brinson, have you put it in?


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[Assistant] Alright, well then, this is, play them separately.


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[Assistant] Cameras inside the upright. So you gotta root for that, right? We're gonna, we're gonna see a vantage point like we've never seen before on a doink. It's gonna make Breach very, very happy. So plus 800. Yes, there will be a doink.


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[Assistant] Yep. So now we're gonna look at MVP odds. I'm just, look, I think the 49ers are gonna win this game. I think it's all gonna be Christian McCaffrey. I like him for a touchdown. I like him to touch on the first half. I like him for two touchdowns actually. And if you like that, then MVP. He's chalk.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but he is our only hope. And by our, I mean 49ers fans, the Faithfuls, McCaffrey, plus 450, RJ, who do you like?


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[Assistant] I love it. All right, that is going to conclude our Super Bowl super picks show. Uhm, Harry, you want to throw up?


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[Assistant] The Super Bowl, but yes, they are in all their glory. I would say take a picture of it, write it down, do what you got to do. Um, cause that's a lot for us to go through here. So.


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[Assistant] Thank you for rocking with us all season long. Of course, the pick six podcast continues after this, but this is our last bedding preview. So, um, it's been super fun with you guys. Thanks so much to RJ and prop stars, um, for keeping it along with us. Um, and any other, anything we should know about coming up this week with pick six Brinson.


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[Assistant] Okay, on that note, this has been the Pick 6 Podcast. We'll see you next time.


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[Assistant] Well that's exactly what I was gonna say was we could show up two hours early and still be due for an extra time for showing up later.


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[Assistant] I believe that that is what made them cap compliant. There are already reports that Clil Mac was going to stay put in Los Angeles. So I think that that was, was what it needed to do. I believe they cleared it just under 20. Oh, was it 20 million or something along those lines? Yeah, 20. But they cleared.


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[Assistant] That's exactly what I was gonna ask is, you know, it's pretty apparent. I mean, obviously up here, I've been watching it pretty intently where Calvin, Calvin Ridley is going to go.


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[Assistant] It's pretty apparent that he was just waiting out the clock or the Jaguars were alluding to him. Hey dude, we'll give you that same exact contract. You want to stay here in Florida tax-free and all that type of stuff. Good weather, all good. Just wait till tomorrow at like 401-01 and then we'll give you that same contract because we don't want to lose a second round pick.


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[Assistant] If you're the Atlanta Falcons, how is this not some sort of tampering? Again, you know, I'm not trying to have sour grapes. I think it's a smart move by the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'm just surprised they can actually do it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was just gonna say, it makes sense for them to wait it out. Like I said, it's just crazy. Like you would think, like you're saying, Breach.


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[Assistant] It's just a lesson for teams like the Falcons and anyone that you say, okay, if you set like the extension thing into the new league year, that should just be a no go. We should be doing it with all of these contingencies. It's playing time. It snaps played. It's performance based. It should not be contract based if you're, if you're one of these executives because


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[Assistant] You can get got, you can have these numbers fudge like we're seeing right now. Obviously with us assuming that he's going to stay in Jacksonville, which is what it seems like it's going to end up being. Right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and, and you know, you know, Foxboro real estate, you know, isn't exactly booming, but Massachusetts real estate, trying to find a house, trying to find a condo versus Jacksonville, probably a little bit different too.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that that's probably the most likely scenario, right? Like it's like the chiefs are the team now where you're like, okay, veteran distressed asset, Mike Williams coming off the ACL, all that.