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[Assistant] You know, there's more running quarterbacks now than there was, so people are getting to see that every week in practice. Oh, Taysom Hill were playing this week. Oh, Kyler Murray were playing this week. Oh, Josh Allen, he does it too. Oh, Cam Newton. The, the defenses are getting done with the year and going, we played six running quarterbacks this year who have all these Lamar Jackson plays. This is not like some shock of an offense anymore. Everybody's used to it.


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[Assistant] So, it's on them to find the next piece. I do think they're trying to do that, with of course bolstering the receiving group and all those type of things. Yes, I understand he has to evolve as a passer.


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[Assistant] But he's still good enough passer and everything else for them to have gone to the Superbowl last year or do anything like that, you know?


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[Assistant] Their defense is allowed to dominate in some of these playoff games too. Man, they couldn't make a stop against the Titans a few years ago. You know, they were good last year against Josh Allen on the Bills, but not great. Okay. So, you know, they got a kazillion dollars on the defensive side of the ball. Let's do that. And then it's on the coaches to continue to evolve.


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[Assistant] That's what all great quarterbacks have pretty much had that type of thing.


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[Assistant] Oh, we're used to the John Elway offense. We're used to it. Oh my, he got Mike Shanahan. Now they're running the zone, the play action. Whoa, they didn't figure out John Elway. No, Mike Shanahan gave you something else to go, John Elway is still awesome. We're just attacking you different and you can't prepare like you used to. You don't know exactly what we're doing. You know, Peyton, uh, Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] Well, I like Greg in a lot of the things he does. I just wanna, I wanna see...


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[Assistant] More. You know, we talked about last year featuring Marquise Hollywood Brown. We saw a little bit of that in the playoffs and at the end of the season. Okay, there we go. You gotta feature some guys, gotta make the defense be aware of like, wait, there's this guy and now we gotta change our game plan because they get it to him a lot. So yeah, I wanna see him evolve. You know, I, I, I saw


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[Assistant] People catch on to Greg Roman's offense in San Francisco with Kaepernick and all that to a degree. They caught on.


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[Assistant] You know, after people got used to the run game and things, they went, oh wait, okay, we got the rest figured out. We're good, we're good, we're good.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's on him to push the envelope that way and then on their organization and hardball and him as well to push Lamar and, and do those things as well. And I think Lamar wants to be great. And you know, you said it, the expectation, I mean, it brings the team to the playoffs as a rookie.


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[Assistant] Number one seed the second year. Okay, they lost in divisional and the MVP and lost in divisional playoff game. Oh my gosh, how dare. He's a bust. What a bust. He lost the divisional playoff game and went 14-2 in the MVP. And then last year,


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, he had to deal with COVID, okay? They were the hottest thing in football the year before. Teams, like I said, studied them, so it wasn't this highlight real year. It was still a really awesome year, and they won a playoff game. And then they went to Buffalo, and Buffalo was hot, had their number, whatever.


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[Assistant] It's a real aspect of the game. You know, it gets back into this just new era quarterback, quarterback, quarterback. He's doing everything. He's coaching the team. He's coaching the defense. He's making the Gatorade in the locker room. I mean, they do everything now, apparently. They expect them to do everything.


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[Assistant] And that's where it's just not fair. Lamar Jackson is awesome, okay? Is he perfect? No.


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[Assistant] You can certainly go to the Super Bowl and win with Lamar Jack. Jared Goff just went to a Super Bowl, everybody. Jared Goff went to a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Blake Bortles went to the NFC Championship game, as you've heard. Nick Foles looked like a superstar in the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Right? You gotta have the support system around him. Jimmy Garoppolo, who is on a team that is doing everything they can possibly do to replace him and get him out of there, they went to the Super Bowl. Why? It wasn't because Jimmy Garoppolo was that amazing?


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[Assistant] Shanahan's run offense just from, I'm talking about running back aspect, right? The pure traditional running back is way better than the Baltimore.


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[Assistant] I mean, Shanahan, it's the Shanahan scheme for a reason. I mean, they invented it. And they have a whole lot of things off of it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Shenahan has also a history of unbelievable play action passes and bootleg design that the Ravens don't have there. And that to me is where he has another element that I look at to go,


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[Assistant] You know, if they can get Trey Lance and he can trust them and all those type of things, he could probably be more-


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[Assistant] More dangerous as a total offense. Lance is not Lamar Jackson. I just would like to stop that. Doesn't move like that. Doesn't move like that. Lamar is like borderline fastest guy in the field. Trey Lance is fast, maybe in the top 10 guys in the field, but not the fastest guy in the field. That's the one thing that has jumped out to me about


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[Assistant] Trey Lance so far in the preseason a little bit. You know, we talked about the throwing and all that.


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[Assistant] He's not quite as fast as I thought he was. You know, that's where the North Dakota State thing comes into person, where you go, ah, well yeaah, that guy runs 4'9", and of course he turned the corner on him. And not as nuanced a pass.


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[Assistant] No, no. No, definitely not. Definitely not. Those were my concerns on the passing thing. I thought, I thought the running, we might see more scrambles and things like that to go, oh, okay, at least he's got that. But as you can see, Justin Fields has a better feel for scrambling and another gear in his sprinting as compared to Trey Lance.


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[Assistant] Yes, there is. You know, you've heard me say for the last two years, I need to see more out of the Clift Kingsbury offense. It's the same, I mean, we're almost talking about the same discussion. They gotta do more to help Kyler out. The offense is a little too predictable in my opinion. You know, the Red Raider shootout offense is just


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[Assistant] It's too easy to break down in the NFL. There has to be more to it that way.


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[Assistant] And, you know, that's where I gotta see more, you know, just from that aspect. Yeaah, you know, even as talented as they are on offense.


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[Assistant] And I'm sure, like even statistically last year, they were a top 10 offense in football, but they weren't really a top 10 offense in my opinion. They, you know, they kind of feasted on the weak.


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[Assistant] And then when they had to play really good defenses, it was like, eh, yeah, your offense ain't that great. They got worse as the year went on. They got worse as the year went on, which always tells you people started to figure them out, got a good clue on what they do in certain situations, formations, route combinations and all those types of things. So there's that aspect for sure. And then I'll say one thing about Kyler Murray for sure too.


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[Assistant] Kyler Murray's gotta be better on third down and throw him within the pocket. You know, you even saw that in the game there the other day. I mean, he just...


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[Assistant] There's the real, the bright lights go on, the D events ends go, wait, wait, okay, we talked about this all week, we're gonna contain him and not let him scramble.


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[Assistant] Third down is usually an obvious passing situation. You might have a quarterback spy there. So he's not going to be able to do that. See on first and second down, it's harder to do those type of things because the run is a real thing.


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[Assistant] You know, we can run the ball. We can run the read option. You know, we can run a quarterback design run. And these defenders, the defense guys can't always play like, hey, we're going to play that thing where we contain them and we're going to have a spy on second and four. No, that's not going to happen then. There's too many things they got to worry about. They might pull a guard and run power with Kyler Murray.


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[Assistant] They don't want to be in a defense that's worried about, like, stopping him from scrambling and worrying about the passing thing. So, between, Kingsbury's got to get more...


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[Assistant] Uh, extensive in his approach, I think on third downs, be a little more creative with him that way. And he's got to be a little bit better in the pocket in those situations because of course anybody that plays them, that's all it's about, right? Keep him in the pocket. Keep him in the pocket. You know, he is smaller.


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[Assistant] He is hard for him to see, and he is, does seem a hair reluctant to get the ball out of his hands really quick because he's aware that he's small and doesn't want to get crushed, which is natural. I'm fine with that. So, yeaah, there's, I'm a little concerned.


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[Assistant] This is right. I mean, we hit on this last year a little bit, like,


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[Assistant] And the bottom right are the only ones I look at to go, well, yeah, there's, uh, that makes sense that the results were nine for 136 and seven for 127.


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[Assistant] You know, so like a defense can prepare and just go, wait, he's always on this side over here and we can play coverages this way and you know, not have to worry about checks if he's somewhere else on the field and those types of things. They're making it too easy on the defenses when they play him.


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[Assistant] More than you doubt it. I do. Well, it's, again, it's almost like the Lamar thing.


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[Assistant] He's, he's not gonna grow. He's not gonna get 6'5", 230. He's, he's done growing. This is what he is.


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[Assistant] They need to grow. They need to help him. You knew what you were drafting, so you have to be ahead of the curve. What's the next thing gonna be? What are you gonna do? And that's where, uh, at least that jumps out to me with Arizona.


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[Assistant] So, you know, the first game had a really good sack against Penny Sewell, but was not overly impressive the rest of the game. You know, second game...


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[Assistant] I didn't watch him specifically on film yet, but I watched the game live. I mean, he's a giant human being. And the one thing you know about, one thing that's really popped out to me is,


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[Assistant] For how big he is in his, he's got go-go gadget arms. Like, I mean, each arm looks like it's seven feet long.


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[Assistant] He's just overwhelmed offensive lineman with like the punch into the chest, his arms are locked out.


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[Assistant] And his arms are longer than the offense alignment and they can't get him off them. And then they, he ends up pushing them back into the quarterback and getting the sack. So.


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[Assistant] Hey, I, I, these guys, I've always said this, him to Neil Hunter was very similar to him coming up. I have a hard time evaluating those guys sometimes. And sometimes when they get in the NFL locker room,


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[Assistant] And they look at the guy next to them and they go, wait, he's making 20, all I gotta do is that and I can get $15 million a year. Well, I can do that. Hold on. Hold on. Let me reassess here. And then, you know, you're around a coach who's calling you out in front of other alphas. And all of a sudden you go, I better, you know, man the up here for lack of a better phrase and play a little tougher. I, that could be something that happens here. So.


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[Assistant] I mean, phenomenal. Owusu Koremo has looked phenomenal. You know, uh, Davis for Washington. I see the athleticism. My only concern is again, just the pure physicality, which, you know, I, I want to see more of that. Quiddy pay. Man.


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[Assistant] Woody Pei's look good too. I mean, he had a sack last week and he pops to me when I watch them because he, I mean, he just gets so explosive and so strange. He reminds me of James Harrison.


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[Assistant] That's who he reminds me of so far. Where I go, oh yea, all the measurables are not your prototypical. Stout and explosive. Right. They're not your prototypical pass rusher. But he's just a different animal. Yea. For lack of a better way to say it. Jalen Phillips just got in the swing of things last week. You know, Surtain, Zaven Collins have looked phenomenal, all those. Okay.


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[Assistant] You know, I like, I appreciate the question, and Russo, he could be that guy. We'll see if he ends up starting up there or not. I'm gonna go with Quiddipay. I am. You know,


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[Assistant] So, for this reason, first off, Jalen Phillips missed a little bit of training camp. It's all looking like it might be a little bit of a slow start. It's the New England system where they never let you just go around the edge and go get sacks all the time. They have rules to everything. So, I don't know if he'll always get the green light.


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[Assistant] Like maybe a quiddy pay who's playing in that Seattle scheme where they just go, get real wide and run right at the quarterback. And we don't give a shit about anything else. We got, we got linebackers that have filled in the run gap that you're going to leave behind.


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[Assistant] And from that, I think that's why I'm gonna pick him. I'm gonna pick him. And of course, I think they're gonna be a good team, and probably put some teams in some must-throw situations. And here's my last piece of logic.


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[Assistant] No, it is, it is. Justin Fields right away jumps to me. You know, I made him six. I'm looking like I'm going to be wrong on that one. He's, you know, again, I don't want to, you know, jump to conclusions. There's more, like I said, I want to see. But like, has he looked more impressive than Trey Lance? For sure. Or Kellen Mann? For sure.


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[Assistant] There's no doubt. So, you know, that's one I'm doubting. Here's probably the number one answer though. Jalen Waddle of the Miami Dolphins, who I made the fourth receiver. Damn. I mean, he just...


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[Assistant] He looks really good, and they have a niche in that offense that just fits him perfectly. So those would be two on the offensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Not only the Tyree kills, speed sweeps and all that type of stuff.


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[Assistant] It's the New England offense, the niche of you could do the West Walker Edelman stuff here too, and be that great route runner that we get you the ball at six, seven yards, eight yards all the time. It's not just the over the top. Exactly. So they're going to have a real element of that. And then of course, every now and then over the top. So I think that's probably the one on offense.


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[Assistant] Eric Stokes for Green Bay. The corner that he dropped in the first round of Georgia who, he didn't make my top five list. I think I, you know, he probably would have been six or seven for me.


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[Assistant] From what I've seen to this point, he's been impressive. He looks like he's the real, I mean, good size.


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[Assistant] He's, he's physical with receivers. He really competes.


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[Assistant] And he can break on the ball to where I go, ah, he should have been in one of my top five corners. He was legit. How about the young defensive backs in Green Bay? I know. Pretty good. They do. They got some, they got some things going there for sure. Uh, and yeah, I mean, I think they're going to start him from get-go. He certainly fits that scheme. You know, they're another team that's going to be Seattle schemish a little bit. So it's jam.


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[Assistant] And don't let him get over the top of you. And he's really fucking fast. So you're going to have a hard time getting over the top of him. And he's shown that he can kind of put the brakes on and break on the ball. You know, so that, I think those, that, that,


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[Assistant] Those are the ones that jump out to me even more. Let me just check one more, uh, group. I had one more name I thought on the defensive side of the ball that I was maybe, uhm, you know, Elijah Moore jumped out to me on offense. I mean, that's another one. I just, uh, maybe I should have had him a hair higher.


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[Assistant] I think there's real off, off the field issues. I mean, listen, he, he, he popped the other night when I watched the game against the dolphins. So I don't know what it is there. I don't. Now their style of running back, they don't like that smaller type of guy. They want more of the Derek Henry sledgehammer, but there's gotta be more to the story.


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[Assistant] Than that. Of course. I, you know, I told you I think during the draft process, cause yeaah, I made him one of my five best running backs.


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[Assistant] And, you know, of course as we're going on, I'm just going, man, I don't see anybody talking about this guy. He's not even on the radar. And I think I told you, I just, I, I started to call on the league a little bit to friends, front office people, coaches I knew. It was like, what's the deal with this guy?


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[Assistant] You know, and I had a few go, I haven't even watched him. He's not on our board. And then I was like, well, you need to watch him. He's like,


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[Assistant] Maybe the most explosive running back in the draft, but then they came back to me and they're like, well, we didn't watch him because he's like blacklisted from us.


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[Assistant] So there's something there. I don't know the details of it, uh, and I don't know what's gonna go on there, uhm, so I don't know what to say, but, uhm, hopefully he can


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[Assistant] Yeah, and we're talking about like, like Stefan Diggs was right around a thousand yards. It wasn't like he came out of nowhere. I mean, you know, they traded away a first round pick to get him, but I know what the guy's saying. He jumped in the like, Hey, we think he's a top tennis receiver to now we're like, is he the best receiver in football? He jumped it up a notch. He jumped it up a notch for sure. So.


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[Assistant] I think McLaurin is the first guy I think about. And of course with this too, the team has to win for me to jump on the scene. You know?


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[Assistant] I mean, even if Diggs had that year last year, and if they were like 6 and 10, people wouldn't really be talking about it the way they are right now. But I think McCorrin's probably the first one that jumps out to me, and then I'm gonna go with DJ Moore as being that other guy. Cause I think both teams will be better.


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[Assistant] And I think they got better quarterbacks on both teams to kind of utilize or take advantage of all they have to offer.


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[Assistant] Well, well, he definitely saw me running around the locker room as an 8, 9, 10 year old, stealing gum, running into the trainer room with him and Ronnie Barnes being a crazy idiot as a little kid. So Mike was always great to me though, man. Thanks for joining us.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's good to, I'm glad to hear you say that because I, I know, I know Mike's heard me say this and I do think Dak Prescott because of that, I do notice some differences in his throwing motion, you know, so I can see that happening. Mike, so now off of that.


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[Assistant] You know, we hear the shoulder injury, the lat injury. I mean, did you ever have a thrower or anybody through your time with the Jags, the Giants, ever have a lat injury or anything like this?


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[Assistant] Last thing on Dak before we move to some of the other guys, just to like, with the, so, I mean, I'm glad you're saying all this cause I've kind of been saying this on TV and the podcast that I thought one affected the other. You know, but yeah, the shoulder you talk about, he hasn't been really tested and all those types of things.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't think he's moving quite the way because like you said with the ankle surgery, like how long do you think that'll linger or what point during the year do you think Dak Prescott and his ankle he'll go, okay, I think I'm pretty close to a hundred percent or right around it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, no doubt about that. And you know, you know, he brings up the MCL thing. That's, that's kind of interesting to me what you're saying there too, because again,


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[Assistant] We look at Joe Burrow, yeah, pocket quarterback, but we talked about it so much. He's a slippery mofo and he moves really well. That is a big part of his game is just slide moving, get out of the pocket, running for 10 years, 10 yards. Mike, I'm with you.


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[Assistant] I'm, I've been concerned. I mean, our producer, Pete Dimolittleitilitis, will tell you, I've been texting going, I'm not sure I would play Joe Burrow week one with the things I hear, what he's made comments about.


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[Assistant] Like, is there a point where somebody in your position back in the old days might have gone to like a Tom Coffin or Parcells and gone, man, this guy's got some issues and some mental issues. I don't know if we should play him week one. Does that happen or do you just have to bow down to the coaches in this?


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[Assistant] So there's real concern with Burrow, is what you're saying. You're more concerned about him than Dak Prescott, who's got two injuries. Yeah, yeah, I hear you. I'm concerned too, so we can evaluate. I mean, I know I'm one that want to go, wait, this is the franchise here.


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[Assistant] Mike, how do they not catch that injury? Just, you know, why, cause you bring it up, like, how come that's something that's not looked at or maybe removed early on in his career or whatever else? Or is it just one of those things where it's like, he hasn't had a problem, so let's not mess with it.


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[Assistant] Right. Is that considered Liz Frank still, even with that? Like, no, that's not. Okay.


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[Assistant] Gotcha. You're not, you don't have long-term concerns here or anything like that. I mean, I know it's a running back, so it's cutting and power and explosiveness is real, a real thing, but you think he bounces back from this or what's your feel?


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[Assistant] Good to hear, good, cause I like the kid, I want him to be successful. I mean, hey Mike, you the man, we're gonna have Mike on consistently throughout the year. That's awesome. You know, I mean, come on, there's too many, I've been around football, you've been around football my whole life, we talk about these injuries like we know what the hell we're talking about, we don't really know.


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[Assistant] Well, people thought he might, but a lot of people because of Liz Frank, for a long time people would go, oh, he just, he sprained his foot. And I always knew, I was like, no, there was something broken in there. I know that. My dad didn't sprain his foot. I was like, you're making them sound like he's some wimp or something. Just sprained foot. He would have played. But I will say to this,


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[Assistant] And I know in that training camp, his foot bothered him badly. Constantly. To the point where we gotta ask dad.


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[Assistant] We gotta ask dad, I feel like he, I gotta remember the story, he said something to the Giants, like, you know, hey, I don't know if you're gonna make me the starter or not, but I'm not, I don't feel right, and whatever else, and it lingered for a little while, and it wasn't until about midway through that year until I think he felt like he was back.


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[Assistant] I know, he's awesome. Mike's the man. And uh, I really, I think there's great value to have him. I hope the listeners enjoyed that because yeah, I think he'll give us a good timeframe, especially during the year, right? Somebody gets an injury and we hear, oh, he's only going to be a few weeks. He might be able to put it into perspective and be like, eh, the media is saying a few weeks. I'm telling you, this is going to be a 10 week injury or whatever. Help us make sense. Definitely.


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[Assistant] Is real low. I'm expecting the Giants to be competitive in the NFC East for sure. You know, I'm, I've kinda said. Better than Philly. Better than Philly? I'm gonna say better than Dallas too. I am.


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[Assistant] I gotta see it to believe it first with Dallas. I know they're the Dallas Cowboys and they got stars and all that and everything. We always want to give them this hype.


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[Assistant] I gotta see it. I gotta see the defense be a little bit better. I gotta see Dak to what Mike Ryan was just talking about. All those type of things. You know, I don't care who you are. You haven't played in a long time. You don't get to play preseason. You miss a chunk of practice. I just can't imagine him coming out the first week of the year and the second week of the year, just 400 yards, four touchdowns and playing perfect. Why the Giants?


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[Assistant] Like Miami a little bit, like we talked about, the one thing I'll say right off the bat, like their defensive line is going to lose no battles. Their front shot is real. Offensive line...


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[Assistant] I don't know, but I get the feeling like they didn't play Daniel Jones in the first two preseason games because they're, they want the offensive line to be a little bit better. Uh, but I still think, I think at the end of the day, I look at the Giants'


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[Assistant] Ceiling, just getting in the playoffs, maybe as a, you know, a six or a seven seed, or maybe winning the division and being that, you know, division winner. Uh, floor,


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[Assistant] I don't, I just, I don't know. I don't envision disaster. Not with the way Joe Judge manages football games. I always thought last year, even when they lost games, I went, you know, they lost, but they weren't the better team, so they were supposed to lose. They played the game the right way. The plan, the approach was the right way. And that's why they upset.


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[Assistant] Some teams, that's why they hung around Tampa Bay til late late in the game.


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[Assistant] And why they beat the Seattle Seahawks. They weren't as good as them.


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[Assistant] He like Belichick knows, wait, we gotta play this way this week, if we want our best chance to win the game. So, you know, I think the floor I would just say is like,


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[Assistant] You know, just, uh, okay, maybe seven and ten. Alright? I'm still getting used to that shit, but seven and ten. Something like that. That's, I don't think it's gonna be a disaster by any stretch of the imagination.


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[Assistant] You know, yeaah, right around that, you know, maybe in 11 and 6 if they pull some game or two out of their... Potential playoff team. Right. I think they're right there on the cusp. I do. Uhm, you know, of course we need to see Daniel Jones be a little bit better. Jason Garrett's gotta help him out. Hopefully Saquon could be healthy, but, uh, there's things to like about the Giants football team.


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[Assistant] We could do it again tomorrow. Yeah, we really could. I mean, uh, but we're not. We're gonna wait till Monday, okay? Alright? So everybody though, keep sending in these questions. I love these questions. There's so many.


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[Assistant] I think we'll probably do another AMA next week just because it allows us to hit so many different topics around the league and hit on things that I want to talk about that we just haven't got to.


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[Assistant] Really uncomfortable. He needs to see, he needs to, I mean, he needs to see himself out there. That's what I mean. They gotta be careful here. They gotta, they gotta make sure they don't mess his career up and all their careers up by, by rushing this out there.


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[Assistant] I think the thing I came away from in the Monday night game, just listening to the announcers, you know, and I said this to Mike on Tuesday morning.


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[Assistant] It's, they know Trevor's better than Gardner Minshew. They just don't want to put Trevor out there in an absolute disaster where they can't protect him and do the things and end up in Joe Burrow land that we talked about. Urban Meyer talked to Joe Burrow.


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[Assistant] You know, keep sending them the questions, positive, negative, whatever. We'll hit it on, hit on all of it. Paulie B, you the man. Good to see you. Way to drive the ship. And uh, peace out. We'll see you on Monday. See ya.


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[Assistant] I know that era a little bit, but it was more, it was more the, uh, junior high, which we called it the Midwest, not middle school, high school, college stretch. And then something happened when I got to be like 23, 24, just lost touch with it.


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[Assistant] All this attention to Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and that was great. It was a wonderful game, but there were some super cool games and big time themes going on on Sunday throughout. So Cowboys beat the Panthers and the number one term that comes to my mind, balance.


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[Assistant] I'm glad you kind of brought up there in passing it a little bit, that game one against Tampa Bay. Because even though they moved the ball, I mean, Dak threw the ball 58 times. The three game sense that they've won, Pollard and Elliott have had more rushing attempts than Dak has had passing attempts.


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[Assistant] I know, I think they were the number one defense coming into that game. They certainly benefited from some of the quarterbacks they played against.


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[Assistant] Zeke Elliott, let's take a look here about some of the things he has done. First two games, okay, people wondering is, you know, what are they really going to get out of Zeke at this point in his career? Last two games, he's averaging over a hundred yards per game. I love the yards per attempt over six. I mean, that doesn't happen very often. And it brings us to the question.


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[Assistant] How was the Cowboys run game so dominant against Carolina? Do you think it was Dallas being so powerful or Carolina doing something wrong as well?


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[Assistant] Yeah, they combine 30 carries for 210 yards. Anytime your backs are over 200 yards, and they're averaging 7 yards per carry between them, that is an unbelievable game on the ground. 47-yard touchdown run was really, I think, his defining moment.


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[Assistant] He's sitting here watching. First of all, kudos to the offensive line. I mean, that was really, really well blocked. He pointed out the scheme and the plan, but they did it really well.


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[Assistant] And this term that comes up a lot in the, in training camp, we wonder about a team and what's their identity going to be? What are the Cowboys going to be? And I think with, with Kellen Moore leading the way offensively, they have really developed something there where Pollard and Elliott, these last three wins, they have combined carries 28, 29 and 30. So that's.


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[Assistant] We have this formula. If things are going well, if we're not way behind or way up, this is how we're gonna play.


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[Assistant] Dax throwing it in the mid-twenties, so this is working. They're not reaching and grabbing for something different every game. No. They've got a formula of who they want to be, and the numbers say it's going pretty well.


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[Assistant] They were awful last year defensively. Awful. And just to go to being decent where you're talking about them, hey, they're not great, but they're pretty good. Exactly right. It's a massive step in the right direction. Definitely. I want to hit Carolina just a little bit before we move on. Yep. At Crawl Shots asks, after their loss to the Cowboys, are you concerned for the Panthers moving forward to be a real contender?


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[Assistant] Week 5, the Cowboys will host the Giants. We'll talk Giants in a little bit. Week 5, the Panthers play at the Eagles. Let's move out to the NFC West. Seahawks, they knock off San Francisco 28-21 in a game that you watch.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's kind of a, it was a different kind of a choppy kind of game. You look at the stats. San Francisco won every category, except turnovers, and they didn't have Russell Wilson. That was the difference. We have Russell, you don't.


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[Assistant] One of the main stories about the Seahawks in the offseason once we all got past the Russell Wilson drama and how they might look schematically with their new offensive coordinator at Mehmet 305 with this question. Can you see a difference in Seattle offensively and their approach under Shane Waldron, the new offensive coordinator?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's not an easy 2-2 for Seattle. It's a lot on Rossewoose. He probably feels like he's played 15 games instead of 4 at this point. Alright, San Francisco also gave us a lot to talk about offensively. Jimmy G goes out. Trey Lance comes in. AADM27 says, Hey Chris and Paul, love the pod.


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[Assistant] How was Debo Samuel so wide open? We're going to take a peek at it. I feel like every week we have a few plays where someone is so open on Sunday. I can't wait to get here on Wednesday and see exactly how it happens.


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[Assistant] Right, so let's set up the play. Third quarter, late in the third quarter, you can see it right there. 21-7, Seattle's up. After Russell Wilson had the great touchdown run, he had the great touchdown pass. So now they're down 14 on first and 10.


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[Assistant] Basically three guys in a two yard area in the middle of the field there. Just back it up a little bit. Yep, let me go a little faster here. There we go, on the 40.


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[Assistant] So at least one of them probably shouldn't have been there. So if you want to pause it.


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[Assistant] So keep going, play it, play it. Ball's in midair. Go ahead and stop it. You can see there on the-


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[Assistant] Alright, more on Trey Lancer. We have a couple questions here, Chris. Quinn Allo asks, you've hit on it several times, but with Jimmy G still turning the ball over and not bringing the same running aspect that Trey does, when Jimmy is healthy, should he be the starter or will Trey's running ability in the Shanahan offense be undeniable for him to remain the starter?


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[Assistant] It looks to me like Jimmy G runs that offense most of the time in the B range, which is pretty darn good. And is Trey Lance, even though he's gonna run it better, is he gonna execute the passing offense close to what Jimmy G does?


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[Assistant] We can miss the broad side of the barn sometimes. The West divisions have been very good. NFC West, AFC West, the only ones where no team has a losing record. So let's take one peek at what's coming up this next week. Niners at the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] Nobody's slowing down Kyler yet, uh, Cardinals just handled a high powered Rams offense. How do you think Lance and Shani attack them?


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[Assistant] So. And Kyle is taking a significant step forward. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. The whole thing is that.


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[Assistant] Alright, Kansas City, Philadelphia. Kansas City, 42. And the Eagles, 30. A lot of points scored there, obviously. I think the main point that we want to get to here and hit on, Chris, Chiefs offense, uh, looked to be back in their groove. What was different this week compared to last?


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[Assistant] Anytime the homes or any quarterback, uh, five touchdowns, one more in completion than touchdown passes. I mean, stop and think about that. Doesn't happen very often. Pretty awesome. Tyree Kill was back to being Tyree Kill. 11 catches, 186. I think the first play we want to look at here is the one where he got open late that kind of ended up being the dagger.


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[Assistant] As soon as that safety comes down to get Kelsey. Exactly right. Patrick knows right now that he's got middle of


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[Assistant] Take it back to the beginning. Finish what you're saying. I don't want to cut you off.


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[Assistant] Leave a pause right here for a moment. I want to set up this question. And I know it's third down. I know it's late in the game. I know they're trailing. But look at what they're doing. By giving up the one safety to come down and cover, uh,


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[Assistant] Kelsey, the tight end. They have a corner or a safety 14 yards off a hill who's in a slot so he can go either way and this is Tyreek Hill with a 14 yard soft corner playing him one on one. So that comes to the question from at thatguyoliver, why do teams continue the trend of treating Tyreek Hill just like any other receiver?


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[Assistant] So, we can't put the Chiefs aside yet without taking a quick peek to what's coming Sunday night against the Bills. AFC title game, if we remember correctly, they did better against their run, but Mahomes really torched them. Buffalo's defense looks even a little bit better. What should they do different this time around?


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[Assistant] With as, with as well as Josh Anil and Buffalo are playing and your questions defensively in Kansas City. Right. Kind of sounds like you may be leaning toward predicting the Bills.


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[Assistant] Let's take a good look at one of the plays there, 7-7 tie, about halfway through the second. And if you've seen the highlight, Hollywood, Hollywood Brown ends up by himself in the secondary. One of these plays where if you saw it, you're like, how the heck did that happen?


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[Assistant] Something very similar to the one we saw in Kansas City. It's very similar. And the problem for the defense is the same. You have a safety that by formation, Chris, ought to be there and prevent this, but gets caught kind of whether he was told to or he did it on his own, got caught looking in the backfield, sneaking up and then boom, someone's 10 yards behind him.


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[Assistant] Let's see, let's see what Jackson does here now.


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[Assistant] He just clearly, just like you thought, he's like, I've backed up enough, Lamar's not gonna throw it over my head. Exactly right. And he just, uh, he quit a little bit too early.


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[Assistant] He had dropped back, I mean, Lamar was 40 yards away from him. I think maybe something internally just said, I've dropped enough, he's not going to throw it over the top of my head.


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[Assistant] Great throw, great catch. I want to point out with the run game, with this collection of backs, Latavious Murray, Le'Veon Bell, and, uh, Devontae Freeman, 23 carries, 74 yards. So not big production, but just enough. Enough when Lamar is throwing the ball that way for Baltimore to succeed.


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[Assistant] Are you ready for the week 5 version of the Lamar question we've dealt with a couple dozen times? Can Lamar throw the ball still, or should we move him to wide receiver? Close, at Mills NFL. Has Lamar shown enough to be a pocket passer in the league for years to come? Yea, he has.


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[Assistant] That was, I mean, at age 50, I think that was the worst offensive performance I've seen. 47 total yards, the Bears get in that loss to Cleveland. Yea, that was shit. So you keep that in mind, and look at what they did this week, 24 points, and...


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[Assistant] Fields was much better, a whole lot better, so I think the improvement here from Cleveland to what they did at home against Detroit is the theme.


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[Assistant] Speaking of tying plays together, Chris, let's take a look at back-to-back plays early in the third quarter. Start with the ground game and then they'll follow it up with the passing game.


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[Assistant] That's beautiful. That is a perfect 20 yard deep over 44. The linebacker couldn't get back there because he was for a second concerned about the run. Safety has to run with that go route in front of him.


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[Assistant] So now he's, he's gonna get his chance starting against the Raiders. What can they do to help him stay on this right track?


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[Assistant] Little bit of, I grew up a Cubs fan. I suffered through all those, all those years. I don't feel too bad for any Yankees fan. But you have that feeling. But you also have the Giants and the Jets winning for the first time over the weekend. So there's reasons to be up and reasons to be down from the fans standpoint here.


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[Assistant] Let's begin with some good news for the Jets. Jets win. Zach Wilson making some pretty big time throws in the second half. 27-24 over Tennessee in overtime.


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[Assistant] But like in a little box in the middle of the field. Exactly, exactly right.


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[Assistant] Which one of those two you think is more being uhm, like the rookie year will be better for which quarterback if they keep executing those kind of offenses.


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[Assistant] Let's look at his best play. I mean, there were a lot of really good ones, but it was tied at 17 about halfway through the fourth quarter and he finds Corey Davis. Uhm, it's just a thing of beauty. If you fell in love with his talent in the spring, this is his best play yet.


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[Assistant] You know what it made me think of? Aside from just being happy for the kid.


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[Assistant] In the spring at these pro days and the combine when we're able to see it, people will kind of chuckle and laugh at, oh, Zach Wilson rolled out to his left and was kind of falling down and threw it 65 yards downfield. Who cares?


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[Assistant] He's never in the game. Yeah, that's always the bullshit talking. We have seen examples, I think from Justin Herbert last year as well. Same kind of thing where you, you watch, you're like, wait a second, 60 yards downfield. That ball's not falling apart. He's putting it where he wants, no matter where his balance is going. So it didn't make Zach a great quarterback that he could do that. We did his pro day.


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[Assistant] But it does show up. It does matter. 100%. When people are raving. People really know what they're looking for. Yeaah. Are raving about what they see in a pro day. Cause sometimes it shows up on Sunday. And it changes the game. Exactly.


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[Assistant] Jets fans are apprehensive to get too confident, so they're probably hedging their bets a little bit, but they play the Falcons in London this weekend. Two in a row could be coming, right? It could be.


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[Assistant] How about this? Daniel Jones, 28 out of 40? 402? 402. Couple of touchdowns.


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[Assistant] To pay off what you said about Galladay and Tony. I mean, back up a few months, everybody was saying,


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[Assistant] They have to go out and spend money on a receiver and free agency. They got Gallaudet. They have to get one early. They got Tony. 12 catches a buck 94. It's only one game, but if you're really into how a team is put together and what they're looking to get, what they knew they had to have, that's a pretty good game. The play we're going to tee up here now, fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] They're trailing 21 to 10. I know. So the, the numbers are great anyway, uh, for Jones, but when you consider they came back in that fourth quarter down double digits, this is fourth quarter, a little over seven minutes left and the Giants with the ball. And like, what, like,


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[Assistant] Why? Why? I'm gonna go back to why are we playing like straight man.


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[Assistant] As you just showed, as we saw, I mean, he was going with that five yard out route in his mind. Yes. And one thing I remember Brian Billick always saying that my summer with the Vikings.


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[Assistant] I'm sure it's a play that made his offensive coordinator Jason Garrett very proud.


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[Assistant] Thinking about Garrett and the Giants, they played the Cowboys this weekend. Yeaah. So, kind of a, I guess, you know, Jason's been gone for a little while, but I'm sure that game still means a lot to him. He had his best game last season against Dallas, or a very good one. Yeaah. Call him the plays. Right. What is the Cowboys defense doing differently this year, and how do the Giants attack it?


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[Assistant] He respects Pennsylvania football, right there. You would pick the Hawkeyes from me. What's your assessment on the matchup? I think I was going to win by double digits. Do you? Well you had no choice but to say that. 17-7. 17-7? Maybe 15-5. So their defense is like that. They're really, really good. Wow, that's cool. Really good.


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[Assistant] Pete, did you just say a 2023-6 round pick? That seems like not a lot. That's crazy. I'm a little surprised by that.


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[Assistant] If you're a backup corner for Carolina, you're looking around being like, what do they think of me? They traded for CJ Henderson. They traded for Gilmore.


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[Assistant] And thanks for watching. Make sure to hit subscribe for the latest news and highlights from NBC Sports.


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[Assistant] I'm like you, I grew up around football, so I never really took it for granted that, you know, how cool it felt, whether it was an NFL stadium or college stadium with the fans filing in, it was packed, but we missed it so much last year. It's like any other part of your life that you were without last year.


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[Assistant] When it comes back a little bit this year, you're like, man, did I miss that? I know you don't even realize it. I was down on the field before the game. You know how you try to talk to the coaches and players and as the fans came in and the band started playing and the chirping started.


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[Assistant] Like the energy and the kind of feeling it gives you, like number one, like, I can go out and play.


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[Assistant] It's the only time of the entire year at this age you're like, I wish I could get out there myself. But it was just, it was so much fun. It was so electric. And then the actual game coming down to an overtime field goal, uh, was just fantastic. Fantastic.


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[Assistant] Did you see the first drive? No, I missed the first drive. First drive, and I forget if they ended it with a field goal or a touchdown, but he went down and like literally it became funny how he was hitting these players in stride with perfect passes. Like if you can go back and get a hold of the first drive, and they weren't like swing routes.


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[Assistant] Or stop routes. I mean, he was hitting people 15, 20 yards down the field while they were running in stride time after time after time. I hadn't seen anything like it for a while in terms of just accuracy.


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[Assistant] Ball placement decision making. So, I got to know him a little bit at that All-Star game we do at NBC. Right. Down in San Antonio. I mean, Trevor Lawrence has been there. Jake Fromm has been there. JT Daniels. I mean, all these big name quarterbacks have been there. He was there.


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[Assistant] And so his talent has, has earned attention for a long long time. And he looked awfully good last night.


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[Assistant] One more addition since you have a connection to Jack Cone. He's the kind of guy, and this is really the ultimate compliment. It might not sound like it right away, but when you watch him warm up, and I get next to these guys, I get as close as I can to them in warmups to see it all. And you're like, okay, nice spiral, comes out okay, not gonna wow you at all.


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[Assistant] He performs so much better in a game than he does in warmups. And there are a lot of guys that catch your eye when they're throwing the ball. It doesn't really show up in a game. His decision making, his demeanor, his ball placement, his consistency was terrific from the start of the game to the end.


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[Assistant] I really do mean that as a compliment to your family that's worked with him too, that he performed really, really well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was good to see. Good for Notre Dame. I derailed you a little bit here as we were ready to jump off the college thing in the NFL. This is a fun podcast. It's the one time a year, or at least for the next few months where we're not


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[Assistant] Talking about games that happen, or previewing the meaningful games that are coming up over the weekend. We're making predictions, or you're making a lot of predictions. I'm going to jump in here, kind of play sounding board a little bit, maybe call, hey, I don't know about that one a few times, but from the Super Bowl winner,


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[Assistant] All the way back to division winners, players of the year. We're going to predict it all here today. Yeah, okay. Sounds good. And to set it up, how about we take a peek at how you did last year? Okay. Alright.


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[Assistant] Let's take a look back. The answer key kinda looks like the Carolina Panthers.


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[Assistant] But the colors and the way the answers are?


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[Assistant] Let's begin it this way. Let's rank the order of finish and playoff teams from each one of the divisions and then we'll fill out the bracket and move on from there. We're going to kick off each one of your predictions.


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[Assistant] With each division with a look at our friends from Pointsbet and how they are viewing this division to set it up. So let's start with the AFC East.


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[Assistant] Pointsbet, you know, no surprise there. They have Buffalo as the easy favorite, followed by New England, Miami, and New York. The Jets way back there at plus two thousand. Buffalo, New England, Miami, pretty closely bunched there at the top, by the way, according to our friends at Pointsbet. How do you see the AFC?


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[Assistant] I think a lot of people when it comes to the AFCs, first of all, almost everybody sees Buffalo as the number one team, but the real wild card there is Miami. To me, it's more with New England, not because I doubt them as a playoff team.


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[Assistant] I paused at putting them number one over Buffalo. I didn't, I had Buffalo there, but I really sat and thought about it and looked at my paper this morning longer than I anticipated with New England possibly being the best team. Did you have any of those feelings at all?


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[Assistant] You mentioned that you see Buffalo as a game or two better than New England. How do you see that gap between the Patriots and the Dolphins?


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[Assistant] Alright, to the AFC North, thinking about some really good teams that might not get in. At points bet, they see it this way, Baltimore just barely ahead of Cleveland, plus 120 to plus 140, and then a little gap down to Pittsburgh, and then just like the Jets were in the AFC East, they have Cincinnati at plus 2000.


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[Assistant] You could order one, two and three in the AFC North any way you'd like. I could sit and listen to you and be like,


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[Assistant] Okay, I guess I buy that. How do you see it? I go...


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[Assistant] I was hoping you had Baltimore 2, Pittsburgh 3, cause I felt like I was cutting against the grain having Pittsburgh at 2.


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[Assistant] Too good to me. I was going to ask because when we put the AFC East to bed a moment ago, you said there's going to be some really good teams in the AFC that just don't make it this year. Right. You're voicing some concerns about Baltimore being not quite up to their normal standard. So I was going to ask you, do you see them missing the playoffs? I could see it happening, but you have them squeaking.


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[Assistant] I don't know, it's hard to view this one anything different than what they just said.


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[Assistant] Kristen, can we, can we show one more time the entire AFC South? I'm curious what Jacksonville was. Just as they compare them to the Jets, they were negative 2,000, the Bengals were negative 2,000 in their, in their division. So Jacksonville, quite a bit better. I don't get that either, I know. Why did, I'm sorry, those teams were plus. So Jacksonville had plus 600. That's a big difference between Jacksonville, the Jets and the Bengals.


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[Assistant] One more place to go in the AFC, the AFC West, and this will be fun to see after it's the Chiefs. Could go a couple of different directions, so our friends at Points Bet say Kansas City, negative 275, and then Los Angeles, plus 500, Denver, plus 700, and Vegas, plus 1300.


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[Assistant] Did you want to hit the Chiefs? You want to get right into what you see at 2-3-4.


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[Assistant] Hey, before we move on to the NFC, Kristen, did you have a note there for, for us?


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[Assistant] NFC. NFC, let's do it. Here we go. Let's start with the NFC, Easton. To me, the real intrigue here is how do you see the top two? Okay, so points bet says


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[Assistant] Cowboys plus 140, the Washington football team plus 220, and then a gap to the Giants and the Eagles, although not that big of a gap. This is the fifth division we've seen so far, Chris, and this is the closest from the top, Cowboys plus 140, to the Eagles at the bottom at plus 525.


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[Assistant] It's the NFC East. A lot of intrigue, especially here where we live, Chris. A lot of people want to hear. What do you see is the biggest difference between the bottom of that division there between the Eagles and the Giants? Right. I just think there's like,


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[Assistant] Like you and I agree. I think Washington looks to me a level above Dallas. Good to hear you say the same thing. Okay, NFC North, the biggest question for me here is how big is the gap going to be for points bet from Green Bay to everybody else? I kind of thought it'd be bigger. Green Bay, negative 170, Minnesota plus 280, Chicago plus 500, and Detroit at 2,500.


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[Assistant] NFC South. Okay, Buccaneers gonna be the team. I think I like New Orleans better than most people. Let's see there. So Tampa Bay, negative 250. Then they have New Orleans on the plus side.


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[Assistant] 475, Atlanta quite a ways back at 900, Carolina just behind Atlanta there at 1100. So Tampa Bay, I know we're going to talk the Bucs as we get into playoff predictions and Super Bowl teams, so hang on to your Bucs thoughts. Do you think New Orleans is the second best team here?


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[Assistant] What do you think, and I know you don't have it because you like them, what do you think the biggest, most legitimate Carolina concern that's out there is?


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[Assistant] I'll set you up with the Saints here. I like them more than most people. I think Sean Payton is going to shine. He's always been a highly respected, really good coach. Now without Drew, I think he's going to have success anyway, a high level of it. It's like that's going to come to the forefront. And I think Jameis Winston is going to have the situation kind of like,


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[Assistant] Every quarterback that was a high pick and goes somewhere else, there's this hope he's going to be Ryan Tannehill. That the change of senior is going to make it happen for him. I think Jameis Winston is going to be as close to that as we've seen since Tannehill did that where he went from a pretty good quarterback to a really good quarterback. Those are my two reasons for like in New Orleans a little more than everybody else.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna throw out this reminder one more time, and I've brought it up before here sitting right here with you, Chris, but Jameis Winston only went crazy with the picks that one year. I know. It was only 31 times. It was never even in the 20s. His other four years as a starter.


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[Assistant] Mid-teen, sometimes low. So, I mean, just keep that in mind as we watch him do pretty well this year. Okay, I think we've saved the best for last, or to me at least, the most intriguing in the NFC, the NFC West, because there are three teams you could pick to win it, and it would make sense. Points Bet says Niners,


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[Assistant] They're just ahead of the Rams. They're just ahead of the Seahawks and then the Arizona Cardinals quite a bit behind. Do you see it with the top three? Niners? Rams?


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[Assistant] Players are going to figure out the quarterback thing, a fun problem to have with a veteran quarterback, an exciting rookie quarterback. As they figure it out, you believe most to be their rock, their running game or their defense that will kind of carry them through that figuring out period.


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[Assistant] I have them at number two, and this is the division I sat down and kind of mapped out. I'm like, gosh, I can see any one of these top three teams winning or being third. Neither one of us see the Cardinals doing much in that division. We'd be pleasantly surprised if Kyler Murray and the offense were that much better and they were contending with those guys. But I put Seattle at number two and here's what the difference maker was for me, Chris.


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[Assistant] I wrote down, okay, who's the best player in this division? Who do you believe in the most? Is Russell Wilson. I know there's lots of issues there, a lot of questions, but I couldn't see Russell Wilson finishing third in that division. That's why I put them at two.


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[Assistant] I'm looking at you 5, 6, 7, New England, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore. That leaves out Indy


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[Assistant] L.A. Chargers Miami Dolphins. So for all those fans of those teams out there wondering why they didn't quite make it, which one, and again it's Colts, Chargers, Dolphins, which one was the almost that you had there at set?


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[Assistant] One other AFC thing here, Buffalo at number 2. It's a popular pick. Peter King had him going to the Super Bowl, I believe. Yeah, you're right, he did.


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[Assistant] Is it too much too soon? I mean, for Buffalo, I know they were really, really good last year, but it's so much positivity. It's not that I don't believe in them as well. I just hear so many good things. I want to bring up a concern with Buffalo.


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[Assistant] Just to get on record with it, just in case, just in case they're good instead of awesome.


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[Assistant] Alright, we'll get to the Wildcard, Divisional, and AFC Championship parts of the AFC in a minute. Let's go with the NFC and the seeding.


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[Assistant] You have Rams and you have the Panthers. I'm looking at teams that were left out. And I gotta be honest, it's, it's not as easy in the AFC. The AFC is so stacked that there are a number of teams you can throw out and feel good about saying, why not them? It's not as easy in the NFC. So you leave out the Vikings.


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[Assistant] Not quite the same. So let's say between the cowboys,


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[Assistant] And, let's say the Seahawks. Who was the toughest to leave out?


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[Assistant] I need a little bit more, and America might as well, on the Niners being better than the Bucks.


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[Assistant] Cause it would make so much sense, and we can talk about it more when we get to the end here, to pick Chief's Buccaneers makes perfect sense.


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[Assistant] It's more enjoyable that way. Okay, let's sit the actual playoff bracket like we're doing a little March Madness here in the beginning of September with the NFL.


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[Assistant] Starting with the NFC. Kristen, I think we were keeping it right there. Is this correct?


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[Assistant] Yeah. It's a nice way to ignore the family when you're thinking about, what advantage can I give to the Rams in Lambeau Field? Family, leave me alone. Yeah, right, right. On this, on this Monday evening. Yes. On this Monday afternoon with everybody home from school, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely.


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[Assistant] Okay, so we have the Rams surviving the NFC side. Let's begin now or let's jump over to the AFC and with the wild card round there.


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[Assistant] Incredibly high after, if you just think about a team that struggled a lot last year, has a rookie quarterback starting, people are expecting a lot of them now.


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[Assistant] Okay, so we've got four teams left in the ASC, Buffalo, Cleveland, New England, Kansas City.


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[Assistant] I'm going to help you out here. I'm going to give you a little chance to exhale and see what you think of my picks because I'm going to throw in my NFC and AFC picks. First of all, with your Rams Browns pick, my late grandfather, Forrest Burmeister, would love it because he played for the Cleveland


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[Assistant] Oh my gosh, right. Cleveland Rams in the late thirties. That's awesome. Great, I should bring it in sometime. The contract he signed for $125 a game.


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[Assistant] The letter from the coach and the GM, but I see Rams and Browns together. I always, I always think of my grandpa. So thanks.


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[Assistant] Because it's too easy. Even knowing that and having that conviction going and I got to the end and I had to make myself not pick the Buccaneers. Because everything lines up for them. I know, I know. So going against that, I'm like, okay, what could talk me out of Tampa Bay? They have everybody back, all the coaches back. What could derail that? And I thought, okay.


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[Assistant] A quarterback I believe in more than anybody else. I also put a lot of stock into the quarterback play-caller relationship. Is it kinda new and kinda moving in the right direction?


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[Assistant] I like the new because maybe it hasn't scratched the surface yet. So I wanted that.


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[Assistant] And I don't care if a defense is top five in the league, but I want it to be decent and again have the arrow going in the right direction. Which they do. I'm going with the Packers. I love the LaFleur Rogers relationship. I think there's just something cool and fun to root for a team that had so many issues in the off season.


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[Assistant] And so much drama and a, and a quarterback who likes to kinda.


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[Assistant] Stick it to somebody. So, I mean, some extra motivation. And I do see, I didn't have to talk myself into the defense. I do see the defense moving to a good place. So, I like your Rams pick, I'm going with


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[Assistant] But that part of the Packers recent resume did bother me. In the AFC, and I thought I was doing something different here, but I have the Browns too. And it's a similar formula I followed with thinking about, okay, remove yourself from the fact that Kansas City is the obvious pick. I wasn't going to let myself pick the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] But think about a quarterback who's really got it going with a high level of talent in the right direction.


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[Assistant] With a play caller that it's kind of new and that they seem to have a really nice synergy. Agreed. I thought about Baker and Kevin right away. Yeah. And the defense...


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[Assistant] Is, it has to be better than last year. Definitely. Love the defensive end spot. Yeah. Like their early draft picks.


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[Assistant] And I can just, and I thought about this too, and I'm happy to hear you say about the Browns.


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[Assistant] They just, it just feels like it's a team that's really got it. And I hate that response from myself that's a team with it. I wanted to think about, I did think about, I wanted to put a label on it that was a little bit better than I just have a really good feeling about the confidence, the mojo and the direction there. I just do.


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[Assistant] I think schematically too and everybody kind of copies the other one a little bit, but what they do with their tight formations and their multiple tight ends and Baker under center all the time, it's just in a world of same and they can all look really good at times. I know, that's what they're great at. It's a little bit different and I really like the way they're going about it.


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[Assistant] On NBC. It is on NBC. Yeah. And I'm picking the Browns to win the Super Bowl. There you go. I'm going with it. Yeah. I'm not gonna let...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm glad I didn't do it just to have a little something different. So one vote for the Packers and one for the Browns. We'll bet a steak dinner. Okay, individual awards. Yeah. Steak dinner, I like it. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Individual awards, MVP. Who you see?


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[Assistant] I've got Tom Brady. I couldn't give him the Super Bowl, but I'll give Tom the MVP. Yeaah, yeaah. I can see that. Offensive Player of the Year, let's begin in the AFC.


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[Assistant] My pick is Derrick Henry to make myself go against the quarterback.


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[Assistant] What's up for him to be coach of the year? I've already praised him. I said, I mean, we've always thought of him as really good. The last decade plus, I think he's going to be even better this year. My one A next to him was Mike Tomlin, another coach, tremendous respect, a hall of fame level coach, but I think he's going to get that team to another level this year. I hope so. After that disappointing finish. So if you go Peyton, I'll go Mike Tomlin.


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[Assistant] Both of those coaches, you watch them in any kind of situation, if you're around them live, you walk away thinking, I wish, I wish I at some point would have been on one of his teams.


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[Assistant] Definitely have that aura about them. You just would give anything to have them believe in you. Yea, 100%. Alright, that's it. That's a prediction pod.


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[Assistant] Not sponsored by Fabio, and I can't believe it's not Butter. I did not know that Fabio had a I can't believe it's not Butter gig. I don't know when that's from. I don't know whether or not they still make it.


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[Assistant] The folks at Under Armour sponsor Chris Simms Unbuttoned. Yes they do. They do still make, I can't believe it's not butter.


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[Assistant] And I can believe I won't be buying it. I would rather have butter. You know, there was a time when margarine was better for you than butter, then it's no wait, butter's better for you than margarine, so I just eat butter until they tell me margarine's better for you than butter or whatever else they come up with next. For now, I'm sticking with butter, Chris.


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[Assistant] They finally figured out that anything that had partially hydrogenated oil of any kind was extra bad for you. So that was when the pendulum went back to butter. So you don't have to tell me twice to eat butter and not anything else. Okay.


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[Assistant] Uh, here we go, and, ooh Chris, it's not looking good for you, pal.


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[Assistant] You got some ground to make up. Last week was not good because we disagreed on three games and it was a sweep. I had the broom out pushing it around all over the place.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and for the season I now have a seven game lead. That can disappear very quickly, very quickly. I've got a four game lead against the spread. Best bets we are even because we both sucked last week at one and two. And it all came down to Monday night. You picked the Saints to cover. They didn't. Yeaah. And I picked the game to


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[Assistant] Alright, let's get to it. 15 games this week, which is odd. There were only 13 last week, only two teams on by this week, so we get a lot to get to, and it starts on Thursday night.


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[Assistant] Green Bay Packers at the Arizona Cardinals. Anybody out there who watched PFT Live on Thursday knows Chris is leaning heavily toward the Cardinals and thank you for watching PFT Live and this as well. Chris, time to make the final decision. Where are you going? Thursday night.


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[Assistant] And by the way, the Cardinals, according to the Points Bet Sportsbook, and as always, all odds provided by Points Bet, 6.5 points favorites in the over-under of 50.5, so you have the Cardinals winning.


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[Assistant] And covering that six and a half point spread. That's a big spread and I'm sure it's influenced by the fact that there'll be no Devonte Adams and no Alan Lazard for the Green Bay Packers, but they still have Aaron Rodgers and I think


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[Assistant] That this is gonna be an Aaron Rodgers night. And I think that you are going to, when we do this next Thursday, say, I can't believe I doubted my hero.


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[Assistant] The best quarterback I've ever seen in my life. I can't believe you're doing it, because maybe it's just a contact high.


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[Assistant] Expect the unexpected. We'll see. Watch, we'll probably disagree on no other games for the rest of the week, but at least we disagree.


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[Assistant] On the first one, let's go to one o'clock Eastern on Sunday, Carolina Panthers, Atlanta Falcons, Panthers started three and oh, they're now three and four Falcons three and three better than what you would think they would be. They're playing the game in Atlanta. Atlanta is a three point favorite over under a 46. Chris does the home team win.


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[Assistant] I got 30-24 Atlanta. I'm, I'm counting on some more points. Just kind of a pasta and meatballs gut feeling.


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[Assistant] Uh, I, I suspect that the Falcons are in a better position to score more points than the Panthers. I agree with you. The, the Joe Brady offense not getting it done the way it was earlier this year. They haven't stayed ahead of the curve. They've got the distraction about the Sam Darnold benching, the chatter about Deshaun Watson. They're trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube on that.


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[Assistant] This is a team that is free-falling unexpectedly after starting 3-0 and I think the Falcons will increase that skid to five losses in a row for the Carolina.


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[Assistant] We probably don't need to spend a lot of time on it because the Bills are gonna kick the crap out of the Dolphins. I assume we both believe. Bills at home, coming off the buy, 13 and a half point favorites and also salty because of losing to the Titans over under 49 and a half. How bad is this one gonna be?


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[Assistant] 34-13 is my score, and I think by Tuesday at 4pm Eastern, the phrase, Tuah is our quarterback, will morph into Tuah was our quarterback. I think they're gonna end up with Deshaun Watson. If they don't do the deal by then, I think at this point, it makes sense as of Thursday to just do the transaction after


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[Assistant] The Sunday games because it would be a major distraction this late in the week. I thought it was going to happen Tuesday. Once you get past Wednesday, there's no reason to do it until after this weekend's games. Not that it's going to help the Dolphins because I think they're going to get blown out.


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[Assistant] by the Buffalo Bills. Alright, 49ers, three and a half point favorites at Soldier Field, a homecoming for Jimmy Garoppolo, the over under 39.5, the lowest of the week.


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[Assistant] You know, the, the, the Bears record at three and five is going to better reflect kind of where they are. And the 49ers, they need this one because they've got Rams Cardinals coming up after, after this game against the Bears. So they better start winning some games or it's going to fall apart.


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[Assistant] Steelers at the Browns. Steelers coming off of their buy. The Browns had a mini buy because they played last Thursday night. Browns are 3.5 point favorites at home against the Steelers. First time they have encountered each other since the playoff thumping that the Browns administered in Pittsburgh last year. That was the Browns as the Browns game. The over-under is 42.5. Who do you like in this one? I have a feeling we may disagree.


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[Assistant] And I don't know if Baker Mayfield is going to play or not. Even if he does, he's impaired. He's not 100%. The Steelers had a week to rest.


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[Assistant] And Ben Roethlisberger is never gonna be healthier than he is right now. Rest of the season, I don't know how it's gonna go. But this is one where, think about how pissed off the Steelers are.


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[Assistant] About what happened to them in the postseason. And it's, I hate using the word revenge in this setting because the Browns just did their jobs. But the Steelers grossly failed to do their jobs against the Cleveland Browns. And what did it for me?


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[Assistant] Beyond the fact that the Steelers had time to get healthy, and they do have a very good defense, and I think they'll be able to hold the Browns offense in check just enough for the Steelers to find a way to steal some points. I did not mean that pun. That's way too easy. Not that I would reject an easy pun, but when Mike Tomlin,


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[Assistant] Got pissed off on Tuesday. That just gave me an idea of what his mindset is this week. And I think back to leading into week one when we should have saw what was coming in Buffalo and no one saw it coming. I just think Tomlin is gonna have these guys ready to go out there and kick some ass. 2724.


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[Assistant] Not that they're able to blow anyone out, but they need to kick ass just to squeeze out a win against a better team. And I think they will. I like the Steelers in this one.


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[Assistant] Alright, we'll see how that one goes. That's our second disagreement of the week. Eagles, three and a half point favorites at Ford Field against the Lions who are desperate to get a win over under 48. The Eagles, two and five, and they have not looked good lately. Is this the week, Chris?


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[Assistant] That Dan Campbell gets his first win as an NFL head coach and Jared Goff gets his first win ever with a head coach other than Sean McVeigh.


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[Assistant] Or, or, or, it's gonna become insurmountable. That's the other side of the coin. What? I didn't even think about that. Or you're gonna be done. Look.


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[Assistant] I love the attitude we saw last week from the Lions, throwing everything they could at the Rams. I think they gained some confidence in themselves. They have to be looking ahead at their schedule, realizing there aren't many Ws lurking, so they better get one while they can. And frankly,


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[Assistant] The more I hear from Dan Campbell, the more I like- Uh huh.


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[Assistant] This is it, man. This is it. If, if they want to keep the 2008 Lions from eventually celebrating the fact that the 2021 Lions have superseded the accomplishments of that 2018 that went 0-16, this is your chance. This is your time. 24-16 Lions win.


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[Assistant] Going to Houston, the biggest spread of the week. What a shock. Every Texans game this year is going to entail the biggest spread of the week. The Rams 14 and a half point favorites.


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[Assistant] At Reliance Stadium, over under 47 and a half. Chris, do the Rams cover? They let me down last week against the Lions. Yeaah. I had them as one of my best bets. Do they get it done this week?


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[Assistant] 42-14 Rams, and I may take them as a best bet again. 14 and a half against the Texans. I just don't believe in the Texans whatsoever. Tyrod Taylor has returned to practice coming off of injured reserve. The 21 day period is open.


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[Assistant] I don't think you bring him back for this game. You bring him back for a game that you think you may win, like next week, wait, is next, yes, next week against the Dolphins. You save Tyrod Taylor for that one, not this one.


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[Assistant] I predict that they will win just enough games to screw up their shot at the number one overall pick because Tyrod Taylor will help them win some games against teams they


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[Assistant] Could be. Yeah. The Rams are not a team. No. The Texans will be. Alright.


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[Assistant] As a practical matter, because they'd have the tiebreaker, it'd be three games plus the tiebreaker, so four games would have to be made up by the Colts in the final nine, and that's not happening. Think back to any time you've rooted for a baseball team down the stretch of the season. If you're out four games with nine left, you're done. So, I like the Titans, uhm, and I think they've learned


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[Assistant] They've learned from losing to the Jets. They've learned from getting blown up by the Cardinals. And what you do is you undermine, you disrespect, you dishonor your accomplishments against the Bills and the Chiefs if you stub your toe against the Colts and open up the AFC South race.


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[Assistant] to them. The titans are gonna be driven, they're gonna be focused, they're gonna be motivated, and I picked it, I picked that they'd lose to the Bills, I picked that they'd lose to the Chiefs, I'm not gonna go.


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[Assistant] Three in a row not believing in the titans because this is the one of the three that I would think they would win and I think they will win, so.


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[Assistant] We now disagree on four. You are either gonna be back in this thing and alive, or I am gonna be kicking your ass all over the place, or it's gonna be a push, which is entirely possible. The more in which we disagree, the greater the chance it's just gonna be, you know, two to two, three to three, whatever the case may be, and we split them all, but we'll see what happens there. Let's go to MetLife Stadium, where the Cincinnati


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[Assistant] Bengals are 10 and a half point favorites against the Jets with a 42 over under. 93% of the spread bets are on Cincinnati according to points bet. I assume we're both taking the Bengals and I assume we're both gonna


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[Assistant] Believe that they cover when Mike White, who exactly is the


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[Assistant] Great teams beat good teams, and great teams don't stumble against bad teams. They beat the crap out of them. I was gonna say the other word, but I don't want Kristen to have to. I know, poor Kristen. You know, two things I said in this segment. Right.


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[Assistant] And I think the Bengals will look at this spread and say,


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[Assistant] What the hell? We should be 20 point favorites. Like, it's a sign of disrespect that they're not bigger favorites. I'd be pissed off. I'd, you know, it's the only occasion where you could be truly pissed off about only being a 10.5 point favorite is they should be 14, 15, 16. It's Mike White.


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[Assistant] And, and it's Joe Burrow. Come on. I'm already telling you it's gonna be one of my best bats. Mark it down. 35-17 and it could get worse than that. The Bengals are learning to fly.


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[Assistant] And they are gonna soar all over the jets, no pun intended. They are going to destroy the jets. I will be stunned if it's close, Chris. Yup. We gotta take a break. Okay, let's take a break. Alright, we gotta take a break. That's it. Cool. I guess we, we talk, we talk, that's Pete's way of saying we talk too long in the first segment.


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[Assistant] The late afternoon games are coming up, including Jameis Winston getting a shot at revenge against the Buccaneers. We'll do that next on this joint collaboration of PFTPM and Chris Sims on Bud.


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[Assistant] PFTPM, Chris Sims Unbuttoned presented by Under Armour, the late afternoon games for Week.


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[Assistant] And we begin with the New England Patriots taking on the Chargers. Last year the Patriots went to SoFi Stadium. They had two games five days apart.


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[Assistant] They blew out the Chargers and then got dismantled in prime time by the LA Rams. But 45-0 was the score. Bill Belichick praising Justin Herbert as one of the great young quarterbacks in the NFL. Chargers five point favorites against the


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[Assistant] New England Patriots who blew out the Jets 54-13 on Sunday over under 49. Chris, who do you like in that one?


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[Assistant] I think the bye week makes a huge difference here and it gave Brandon Staley, the coach of the Chargers, a full week.


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[Assistant] To get ready for this one and he understands the X's and O's, he understands the matchups, he understands how to crack a code and he's got a better team from a talent standpoint and clearly a better quarterback than Justin Herbert. I think the Chargers find a way to exercise the demons from last year.


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[Assistant] It was a different coaching staff. It was the same coaching staff. I'd say the outcome's the same. This time around.


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[Assistant] We get the Chargers to 5-2 after they lost in disappointing fashion to the Ravens entering their bye. That bye week is big for me. I don't know that I would have felt this way last week, but I feel this way this week. Chargers win 30-23.


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[Assistant] What are we up to now? 6 or 5? How many do you disagree on? We have the 5, what the 5?


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[Assistant] Alright, let's go to the next game because that may push our disagreements to 6. The Jacksonville Jaguars coming off of a bye week at Seattle. Seattle's only a 3 point favorite with an over 143.5. Chris, you taking the home team or you taking the Jags?


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[Assistant] And I am, and I'm sticking with the score from last time, 23-20 Jaguars. They got a boost. They got some confidence. I heard it in Trevor Lawrence's voice immediately after the win over the Dolphins. And yeah, it's still Seattle, but you know what? It isn't going to be nearly as loud. Some of the 12s are going to find something else to do on a Sunday afternoon on Halloween.


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[Assistant] Are, are really gonna have a mess on their hands. Russell Wilson's gonna want out. Pete Carroll could be done. The people are already starting.


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[Assistant] To line up at the door. And it's just not good. It's not good. And it's gonna be bad. You're gonna have the same record.


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[Assistant] I was looking at the sheet and I saw Chargers. Seahawks are gonna go into their buy, two and six.


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[Assistant] Based on my prediction and that is not good whatsoever. Alright, let's move on to a couple of desperate teams. Two and five Washington football team. Three and four Denver Broncos. In Denver, mile high, three point favorites, 43 and a half over under. Chris, do the Broncos end their four game losing streak? I can't say they don't.


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[Assistant] Wow. And every game in the four o'clock window while we're getting ready to do


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[Assistant] The pregame show, we're gonna be watching these games very carefully because so far, three out of three, we disagree. I just think that, you know, this is just the mentality of it's time. There's a desperation there. They are hitting the panic button. They made trades this week to try to make the team better. They're trying to get wins while they can. And this is one of the ones


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[Assistant] That you look at on the schedule and say the Broncos can do this one. And I think the factor of being at home.


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[Assistant] The elevation, you know, that's a very real thing. You know the difference between playing at sea level and playing at mile high altitude. I just, I think this sets up for the Broncos to get a win.


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[Assistant] Because if they're not going to get the lawnmowers started now, I don't know when they're going to, and they're trying their damnedest to make it happen. So I think Teddy settles down, the offense settles down, they may get Jerry Judy back this weekend, which would be big. I think they are expecting him back.


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[Assistant] After that week one ankle injury against the Giants. I'm going Broncos. It's gut feel. It's gut feel across the board. And our guts are on. You know, we've said many times this year we spend way too much time together.


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[Assistant] They, uh, they beat the Seahawks, but did not look great offensively, at least from the standpoint of scoring points over under his 50. Last year, the Saints swept the Bucs in the regular season. Will the Saints continue that trend this year?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just don't think offensively Jameis Winston can take this team where it needs to be and you go against a team that can neutralize the run or at least slow it down.


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[Assistant] He wants to throw it down the field, and he almost feels like he's settling.


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[Assistant] To the Saints, and I think it could be worse than 27-17. Uhm, but, uh, we agree. We finally agree on one with the exact same score. Let's take a break. The Primetime games, including some memories of the original Hail Mary. I have a feeling we're gonna see the video of it. PFTPM. Chris Sims on button, back after this.


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[Assistant] Welcome back, PFTPM. Chris Sims on Button presented by Under Armour. This is the point in the show where Chris tells you a little bit more about his partnership with Under Armour.


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[Assistant] Last night on PFTPM, Miles Simmons and I each had Under Armour gear on. I don't today. I won't mention the manufacturer of the thing that happened to be the cleanest and the closest that I grabbed on the way upstairs, but we move forward. Sunday Night Football.


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[Assistant] Dallas Cowboys, one and a half point favorites. It's moved a little bit. Maybe people don't think Dak Prescott's gonna be back at Minnesota over under 55, the highest of the week, Halloween night, Sunday night football, back at the site, sort of, of the original Hail Mary.


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[Assistant] Downtown Minneapolis. Chris, Cowboys or the Vikings? Who do you have in mind?


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[Assistant] I'm going Cowboys 28-24 so I don't see the same.


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[Assistant] Level of point scoring that you do. But I think that we both should say right now, we reserve the right to change our pick on Football Night in America if for some reason that


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[Assistant] Let's move to Monday night, New York Giants at the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs are nine and a half point favorites against the Giants team that showed a little fight in beating the Panthers, surprised us. The fish no longer stinks as bad as it did last week. The Chiefs though, the fish is stinking, uh, like, like we haven't seen in years.


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[Assistant] Let me go first on this one, because I just do this as, the Chiefs are in a mode right now where when they get a chance to play a team that they are clearly better than, they know how to hammer that team into submission, and they will. And it'll be methodical, and when we're done, we're gonna see 38-17 as the final score.


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[Assistant] They're having a hard time beating the teams that aren't.


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[Assistant] Clearly below them from a talent standpoint. That's where they need some work. But this is like a confidence builder game for, for the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] And I think the Chiefs, prime time, this is a way for them to kind of get back on the right footing before the Packers come to town six days later and it may be a different story altogether.


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[Assistant] All right. I got Chiefs 38-17. So we agree on both of the prime time games, but we still have seven disagreements out of 15 games, our highest total of the year. When we return, we unveil our best bets and our Folsom Prison Blues pick. We'll do that when we wrap up this Thursday edition of PFTPM and Chris Sims on Button presented by Under Armour.


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[Assistant] PFTPM, Chris Sims Unbuttoned, presented by Under Armour. Best bets time of the week after we disagree on seven games. Will we agree on any of our best bets? Chris, you're up first. Alright, well, hey, first off, I mean, we got a little time to spare. I wanna know, like, what are we doing tonight for the game? What are we gonna do? We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna piss it all away, right now.


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[Assistant] The 20th anniversary of PFT is coming up on Monday, so we're gonna have a little gathering tonight out on the patio.


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[Assistant] Four of those big heaters, they actually weren't that expensive, so we got four of them, would have like a propane tank in them, so we're gonna fire those up and uh, watch it on the TV outside tonight.


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[Assistant] After all those disagreements, it's like the slot machine, and they're starting to line up. Rams and Rams. So we agree on that one. What's your next one? Gosh.


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[Assistant] Thank you. I think that people don't yet believe in the Bengals and that's what's kept the line low. And after this week, the line won't be that low when they have another game like this. Alright, I agree with you. That's it. We're lined up. Are we going to hit the jackpot? I don't think we are.


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[Assistant] Look, I hate to do this because we get accused of taking the chalk, but you know what? Anytime you're giving the other team double digits, you're going out on a limb.


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[Assistant] I think the bills are gonna obliterate the Dolphins and everything lines up for the bills. They had a week off.