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[Assistant] So there we have pure speed and then size, ball adjustment, right, to go do that. He can take the top off defenses on post routes and do all of that as well. And then when you get into all the underneath stuff, the slant returns and all that, he's phenomenal.


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[Assistant] He is phenomenal. I mean, he is like a very detailed, precise route runner. Right? He's not the best with yards after the catch. Alright, I'll say that. It's probably like out of the guys we're gonna talk about here. And even with Cooper Cup, I think he's probably less than in that department with the ball in his hand.


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[Assistant] I think he beats Cooper Cup in the ability just to beat Manda Man pure coverage on the outside, and he beats Cooper Cup in the ability, in my opinion, of like,


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[Assistant] Hey, he's covered, or there's two guys on him, let's just throw it up, and he goes up and gets it anyways. That to me is where Justin Jefferson's really, really damn good. His yards after catch is good, it's not special like those guys, but damn, it's still really damn good. And I think you add that with his size, again, he's 6'3", so he's a little bit taller than Cooper Cup.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I think, yeaah, just as a route runner, and without the ball in his hand, he can really separate that way. He's listed as 6'1". Is he really? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Is that what he came out in the NFL combine? Let's just say. I mean, teams don't really lie about height of players. That's not a thing in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Well, there's more attention to him. He became the number one guy there this year, officially. You know, I think the year before that you get the, you get the...


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[Assistant] You know, easy underneath catches with some space where it wasn't quite that way this year. And especially with Adam Thielen being hurt and having to deal with some injuries there too. And it still didn't really matter on a week to week basis. Um, yeah, to me, this is definitely one of the best young receivers in the game and no doubt top five in my money.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, and Diggs is really damn good, and he's still really damn good. Yeaah, he's not gonna make my top 5, but yeaah, Jefferson, you know, again, I think that's the thing is, it's unique in the fact that


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[Assistant] You know, again, he's bigger than a, than a, a Stefan Diggs. But it's unique in the fact that you can have a skill set again, like we talked about, where you can just win with your pure physical ability and get open or not be open and still catch the ball. But then when you can move into the slot.


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[Assistant] And be like, well shit, he's one of the better slot receivers in football too. That's a special thing. And yeah, he's not as explosive as maybe some of these three guys we're going to talk about here in a second and all of that.


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[Assistant] He also, I think in some ways, can get open in some rounds that those guys can't too. That, you know, is in his favor as well. But really, really a hell of a receiver. Complete receiver. You know, rare blend of a guy that can...


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[Assistant] Use everything that a system has to offer and also can just do it with great physical ability too. And there's probably more he has to offer if he got around, like we'll see it this year.


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[Assistant] Cause he's now to me gonna be with an offensive coordinator that's gonna put more routes on his route tree. And he's gonna be asked to see that. So I think you're gonna see more of a variety of what he's asked to do this year than years past.


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[Assistant] Sorry. Just, nope. Uhm, number three is gonna go, I'm gonna go with Tyree Kill. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he has. He's gonna be number three. He's still, you know, amazing. And again, I always think he's still in that conversation for the most explosive receiver in football, the greatest weapon in football.


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[Assistant] Yes, you know, again, like I said, can he, like, we're going back to the Justin Jefferson, Cooper Cup. Can he run some of those routes the same way? No. When you see him run some of the shorter type routes, precise that way, they're not great always. They're not.


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[Assistant] You know, you run the slant route. Let's just say you run the slant return route, right? I'm just, that's the one I'm using because that's always a precise route. You run a slant.


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[Assistant] You get to that six yards, you come flat out at six yards, right? You can break out of it. Yeaah, you watch like Tyree Kill do it, it never comes out flat. He fades away, he never comes out exactly crisp and clean on the breaks that way with those type of things. So, that's where he's not.


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[Assistant] You know, in the same level as a Justin Jefferson or a Cooper Cup. But I mean, again, you know, I mean, he's uncoverable almost, one on one.


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[Assistant] And again, that's all the other things he does too. Yeaah, go route, certainly. Nobody, one on one, he can run by anybody. Post routes, we know that. You know, again, with the ball in his hands, he's in the conversation for still the best in football when that comes to it.


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[Assistant] I mean, again, to me, what we saw him do in the Bills game, catch the in-cut, and zoom, the two guys we're gonna talk about in a minute are the only two other two guys in football that can do that kind of crap.


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[Assistant] You know, or catch a crow route in the middle of the field and there's seven guys around him and we watch him and we're, we're sitting there watching on a Sunday going, oh, he might get out of this. I mean, nobody does that like he does. It's special, except for maybe the other two guys we're about to talk about. So, you know, that, that's where he's great.


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[Assistant] His hands are solid. He plays bigger than you expect. He is good at going up and getting balls. 50-50 balls for a guy that's 5'10ish in that range. He is. His vertical, I mean, I don't know. His vertical is insane. Gotta be insane. His hands are the least out of the top five.


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[Assistant] Nobody catches drops more on target passes than Tyree Kill. I mean, nobody.


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[Assistant] He just, he doesn't always attack the ball. He can let the ball get into his body and pop up at the air. I mean, he caused Patrick Mahomes a handful of interceptions this year.


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[Assistant] Balls that hit him in the face, hit him in the hands, he popped up in the air.


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[Assistant] Uh, so that's where he's not necessarily as good. Yeah, he can't, even though he's small, I mean, I said he plays big, he's not a guy you can definitively, like, depend on to throw a back shoulder ball to all the time. Like, not to the level of, like, we just talked about with Cooper Kupp or Justin Jefferson. So those are his weaknesses. You know, so yeah. You know, but again, I mean, I just, I prefer this type of guy.


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[Assistant] I do. I'll take away some of the other, like we talked about, detailed, nuanced route running for some of the explosive things he can bring to the table.


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[Assistant] Ray, the guy that's been around for a little while, too high. Sure.


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[Assistant] Or don't discredit him just because it's like, oh, I've only seen him do it one year. Like, okay, so what? I don't know. Jerry Rice in year two was the best receiver in football. Randy Moss was the best one in year one.


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[Assistant] After the, after four minutes of watching football, everybody in football went, the other new best receiver in football was Randy Moss. I don't care who's been here for nine years and had 10,000 catches. Doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think sometimes people like, uh, don't, don't, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, they don't look at that enough. The young guy coming up the pipe. It's running back is that position too. Uh, but I do think this was the year, and I said this during the season last year, I don't know if it was you or Mike or that.


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[Assistant] The changing the guard at receiver, it happened. It happened, like, it kinda happened last year.


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[Assistant] But I don't think any longer where like, yeah, the DeAndre Hopkins, the, the AJ greens, the Julio Jones, they were replaced for the guys that you think are top five receivers in football. Other, the new guys replaced them in my opinion. Uh, I, I do think that happened last year.


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[Assistant] Mike Evans, probably a guy that, you know, 2020 I had on top 5 and for sure is still really damn good, but he's not gonna be on this list on the top 5. Yeaah, I think some of these young, young bucks have surpassed him.


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[Assistant] I do think we're gonna see jaw-dropping plays. This is where I do wonder, like, we're not gonna see as many, you know, bombs down the field in that way. But, McDaniel, with what he's learned from Shanahan,


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[Assistant] I do think we might be able to see Tyree kill in space in intermediate and shorter routes, maybe a little bit more often than we did in, in Kansas City. And that to me could be dangerous. Definitely. You know, and I think if you couple that with a good running game and, oh, we got to worry about Jaylen Waddle over here too.


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[Assistant] You know, that, that, yes, you know, I'm not expecting


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[Assistant] Maybe as many, you know, down the field 30 and 40 yard passes, but maybe we get a bunch of eight yard completions. Oh crap though, he's in the middle of the field with nobody around him and he might be able to make something special happen that way.


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[Assistant] Debo Samuel to me right now, I mean, you know, maybe the best weapon to receive her in football. He might have taken that, that, that, that mantle from Tyree Kill, the guy that I used to go, oh, it doesn't matter, just throw him a slant, give him a reverse, just get the ball in his hands. Now to me, that's Debo Samuel. You know, I think without a doubt, he's the best receiver in football.


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[Assistant] With the ball in his hands. The guy we have at number one rivals him.


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[Assistant] But where Deebo to me, you know, Deebo's got a physical nature about him too. That's different than the rest of the receivers. Deebo can run over a strong safety or a linebacker, you know, on a third and four, whether it's a slant route or a toss sweep. Uh, so that, that to me is like special, you know, and again,


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[Assistant] The guy that, I don't think gets quite the enough credit for the route running. I don't, I know like, listen, he might not be Cooper Cup or, or, or Devonte Adams or Justin Jefferson and all that too. But it's not like, it's not bad.


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[Assistant] He's a better route runner in my opinion than Tyree Kill for sure. He is. Now the reason I feel like he doesn't get quite the credit too sometimes is cause they don't throw the ball outside the number so you don't get to see those type of routes with him all the time. He's always running something screaming over the middle. Right?


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[Assistant] And I don't know, is there a better receiver in traffic in football with people around them? Oh, you're going to get your head knocked off, still catch it and run a hundred miles per hour for us? No, there's nobody. And then, you know,


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[Assistant] A receiver where you go, well, this quarterback can't even throw it deep. We know he's going to catch the ball right here in this area, but it doesn't matter. He gets 20 yards every time he touches the ball. Right. And you know, breaks tackles his acceleration is up there with Tyreek and the guy we're going to talk about at number one.


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[Assistant] Maybe not a top end pure speed, but again, I don't know, you know, he's one where I think the stats say a lot for him. You know, you know.


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[Assistant] 18 yards per catch. And for 18 yards per catch, probably was getting the least amount of air yards through those receptions. You know, just screen plays, the toss sweeps, everything about it. Again, to me, that's what a receiver is in the NFL anymore.


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[Assistant] We're not in the just receivers are only like Jerry Rice mold anymore. It's 2022. We've moved on.


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[Assistant] There's more we ask here of the receiver now. And part of being a receiver, in my opinion, is the weapon factor. And Deebo Samuel, you know, yes, you can use him in more ways than just about anybody in the game right now.


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[Assistant] Outside the numbers. This could be the year you see more 20 yard outs, 15 yard out routes. So you're saying he could look even better? He could. He definitely could. And you know, again, you see the speed just run by people with pure


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[Assistant] And even though like, you know, his hips and stuff might be not like the loose like Justin Jefferson, like where Jefferson and Devonte Adams, they can kind of shake their body and then boom, put their foot in the ground and just come out. And you're like, man, which way are they going here? This is amazing. His is a little different.


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[Assistant] But, it's effective in a lot of ways. So the hips and the loosey-goosey-ness might not be there, but his ability to like...


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[Assistant] Okay, he's running 4-4, and then all of a sudden it's like, Oh my gosh, he's turning it on, he's about to run 4-2.


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[Assistant] Oh wait, he put on the brakes and oh my god, he restarted and he's running for two again. That is what gets him open and special. And yes, even though the hips and all that and I'd be there, his explosion in and out of brakes and can put his foot in the ground and cut that way is what makes him really effective.


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[Assistant] What, I've had people go, 59, 59, right, right, for what, how many yards?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you know, again, that's impressive. When you talk about, oh, he's got tail back and we know he's


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[Assistant] And like I said, it may be being asked to do more with less in a lot of ways and as compared to the other receivers. Hey, catch this ball here and break seven tackles and then turn on the afterburners and run away from everybody for 60 yards.


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[Assistant] That's what he does. It's a crazy, crazy skill set he has that way. And that's the point I'm trying to make too to you this year is, you know, again,


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[Assistant] The normal mode of receiver, everybody's gotta get out of that. Receivers now are being asked to do these things. So if you can't do them, tell me that you're not as good as a receiver. As the guy that can.


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[Assistant] Don't tell me that. Tell Deebo that. Well, I know. So, Deebo, I can understand him having a little bit of a pause about taking that many hits. Alright? So I can see them maybe going, okay, hey, we won't give you the ball as many times a game. He only played seven games in 2020. Right. So he wants to watch himself that way. But, I have a hard time still, like,


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[Assistant] How many times did we get done with games last year and Shanahan went...


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[Assistant] It was a third down and Deebo just said, give me the ball. Like, was he not going to do that this year? Like, bullshit, of course he is. So maybe he doesn't want the balls less. Maybe he's going to be a little more picky about it. I'm sure Shanahan will, especially when they pay him a lot of money. They're going to want to try and try to make him last. They're not going to want to kill him.


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[Assistant] Right? They're gonna want to get their investment back for that. So I do think it'll be less carries and less car crashes that way, but I still think it's gonna be a part of the


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[Assistant] It is the fire that burns in them. You're right. There's a will there. And then a, a carelessness for their body. That, that I think is what, that pushes them over the edge. And hey, I mean, again, you're talking about it. This is why the 49ers, one of the things I talked about with Florio today is like, it's to me, one of the training camp storylines is yeah, this quarterback situation, Trey Lance, what he does, all that. I mean, the 49ers are good.


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[Assistant] Are really damn good. They're a Super Bowl football team.


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[Assistant] With a quarterback question and conundrum right now. That's rare. It really is. I mean, you just said it. It's arguably the best tight end of football. You can talk to some people in football and tell you it's the best receiver in football. Brandon Iuke is no slouch. You got the best left tackle in football with a bunch of other good linemen. You know?


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[Assistant] Maybe the best pass rusher, the best middle linebacker. I mean, they're stacked and they have a quarterback issue and some contract issues here too. So that's, it's, it is kind of fascinating what's going on in there in 49er land.


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[Assistant] Well, I, I just, I get the sense, as I really said from the beginning, right? Again, I saw Kyle this summer, alright?


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[Assistant] They're not really talking about his football team, right? He's happy with where they are, right? Again, I'm not gonna like get into specifics about it. He doesn't want to talk about it with me. But as I always said, with Kyle,


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[Assistant] Kyle's a master communicator. Players love playing for him. I think you know that by just because you used to work out there and you know people and you hear things. He's just real. He's real. He's a real guy. And the real modern day player really relates to him that way.


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[Assistant] And I think he always had confidence. I don't really know what went wrong. I'm not sure if they really know what went wrong.


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[Assistant] But I think he always had faith that like, hey, if I just keep the communication going with this guy and he knows who I am, it'll get worked out. It just feels like we're going that way. And I just can't imagine for either side not wanting to make it happen.


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[Assistant] I know Kyle, I know what kind of players he loves. He loves players like Debo Samuel. He loves them. Right? And, I, players like Debo Samuel usually love Kyle Shanahan.


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[Assistant] Cause he's just like, you're the man, I'm going to get you the ball every way, you're the man, you're the man. Lead our team, go out on the damn, out of the locker room with the boom backs on your shoulder, whatever the hell you want, but just keep making plays. And the players love that. And I just, that's why I think it's, it's inevitable. Number two wide receiver in football, according to Chris Sims.


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[Assistant] No brainer here for me. It's, it's Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase is the best receiver in football. It was an easy number one. It was an easy number one. It was one of those where I went, oh, Jamar Chase is definitely top three. And then you go back and watch the year and you go, oh no, he's one. He's actually one. He is like,


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[Assistant] Right there rivaling the Justin Jefferson and Cooper Cup in the route running department. He's uncoverable one on one. Nobody can cover Jamar Chase one on one. Nobody. Nobody in football. Just ask Jalen Ramsey in the Super Bowl. You know?


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[Assistant] I mean again, I mean, Jamar Chase might be the MVP of the Super Bowl if Aaron Donald doesn't get there on the sack in the end of the game. With Jalen Ramsey falling down. He is uncoverable and he can do it all. So he can run precise routes. Great.


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[Assistant] Oh, you want to cover him one on one? Good night. It's over. He's going to run by you. Touchdown. Oh, you want to play him one on one and stop the go route and they're not even going to change their route and they're still going to run the go route? Jump ball, back shoulder. It's off the charts. Good. With the ball in his hands.


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[Assistant] It rivals Deebo. Maybe not the breaking the tackles, but he's faster.


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[Assistant] He's in the conversation with Tyree Kill as far as pure speed. You know, again, what I will always say is, there's just, all you gotta do is, I mean, again,


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[Assistant] How many people in football can run a 360 slant route?


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[Assistant] I think we're going to see more of the weapons stuff. I think you'll see more tosses and reverses as we go along here. But yea, for my money, it's the best receiver in football. He ended it that way and I think it's only going to get better.


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[Assistant] But it's always hard with the quarterback conversation. I know.


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[Assistant] If you, right, if you had your franchise quarterback, or let's just say it's a draft that there's that guy's not there, right?


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[Assistant] Like, I guess what we're basically saying is like, you know, is a guy like Jamar Chase in that talent worthy of a top two or three pick? Yeah, I do. I think so. You know, in this day and age in the NFL, I do.


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[Assistant] And again, he's, he changed their football team. I know Joe Burrow's special too. But again, this is where not only are the stats eye popping and wow and yards per catch and all the touchdowns and everything there.


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[Assistant] What I would really love to show people is just go, man, come in here and watch and just watch like this game here and where this defense had to change the way they were playing and the coverages they were, they had to change it because they just said we can't do it anymore. We can't do this to our corner. He's got no chance against Jamar Chase one on one.


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[Assistant] And, and then Tyler Boyd or, you know, T Higgins get the catch and we take away the credit from, from the guy like Jamar Chase at the end of the game and go, well, he only had four catches today. Well, yeah, they've, you know, they played a defensive was all about that where, you know, there's other guys here on the list again, where I could sit here and just go,


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[Assistant] Hey, these guys are good. That's right. But they, they, yeah, they had seven catches and they had 70 yards, but they didn't have the effect of the game that Jamar Chase did with his three catches for 55 yards.


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[Assistant] You know, they, this guy had the seven catches for 70 yards, but they played a man the whole game. They never did anything special to cover him that way.


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[Assistant] And if Jamar Chase got played that way, it would have been 14 for 300 yards. So that's where, like, people lose sight of that. And that's where the numbers can lie a little bit too at times at the position. But yea, for my money, Jamar Chase and Deebo Samuel are definitely the top two receivers in football. And Jamar Chase, uh, is, is


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[Assistant] It really is. Of course we know that was one of the best teams ever. And that's one still, you know the funniest thing I'll always remember about that team.


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[Assistant] I don't even know why I'm going there. I was just gonna say, the one thing I always remember is people killing the corner from Atlanta. AJ Terrell.


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[Assistant] Oh yes. Cause he, cause Jamar Chase caught three touchdowns on him and he was all over him. Yeah. And I wanted to be like damn he covered him as good as anybody I've seen cover him in the NFL. He caught three touchdowns. One was like a push off. The other one, they kind of tangled feet and he tripped and fell. But I remember NFL evaluators going, well, I know, but man, he had a tough day that day against LSU. No, I don't want to be like, this guy's like,


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[Assistant] At least with my top three. Yep. And I think this is a trend that's going on in the NFL and it's going to continue. I see it even in high school right now, going to camps and stuff over the last few weeks.


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[Assistant] Kids that are built like running backs that go, I'm not playing running back, I'm playing receiver. Like why would I play running back? Get me out in space. Get me out in space? Why would I get killed like that? I'm only gonna get one contract.


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[Assistant] Like these kids are going, no the hell with that, let me be a receiver and I can play 12 years, 14 years and I'll still be able to walk and be good when I'm 52 and I'm gonna make a ton more money and have every bit of effect on the football game and I think that's what you're seeing with these guys. Chase, Samuel and Hill are built like running backs.


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[Assistant] They really are. You know, guys on the outside looking in. You wanna get on that conversation a little bit? So if you're a kid out there... Yeaah.


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[Assistant] No doubt about it. No doubt about it. Like I bet you Jamar Chase and Devo Samuel are running backs all the way until high school, late high school, early college, something like that. I do. The DJ Moore's of the world, same type of thing. DJ Moore is the guy that I would probably say is the next one off my list. Okay, so let's get into honorable mentions.


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[Assistant] And he is a physical freak. And again, a guy, don't let the numbers fool you. Again, look at the offenses and quarterbacks he's been involved in. It's not the greatest situation in the world, you know.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's, he's got a lot of Jamar Chase type qualities. In fact...


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[Assistant] This is just popped in my head here as I'm thinking about this and Pete could verify at the Super Bowl. I asked Michael Parsons, who's the best player he played in the NFL this year, and he said DJ Moore. Wow. All right. So there you go. That's a freak show of a linebacker telling you. So DJ Moore is that kind of special


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[Assistant] But you know, DJ, more to your point that way, AJ Brown's that way.


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[Assistant] You know? Again, another guy that's just, you know, off the list here. Okay. You know, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, AJ Brown, Devonte Adams.


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[Assistant] Terry McCloran, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, those are the next guys off the list for me. You know, Stefan Diggs, Jalen Waddle, Mike Williams, Tyler Lockett, that would be my honorable mentions right there. And again, there's some other ones there you go, damn, they're good and I'm not even talking about them.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, like, then there's the next level of maybe the T. Higgins and the Deontay Johnsons of the world.


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[Assistant] You know, C.D. Lamb, right? Yea, like that group of guys there, where yea, I'm not gonna quite put them in the list of these guys there, but still really dan- Keenan Allen.


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[Assistant] You know, that kind of guy, you know, still awesome receivers. Right. But to me, not in the top 10, 12 conversation, maybe more in the top 20ish conversation, but still like awesome. So that's the argument that we have.


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[Assistant] It is. It's a game changer. It's a game changer. Exactly right. It is. With the way the league's set up, the rules, and then, you know, again, the fact of we don't need the most precise route to get open anymore. We have an offensive coordinator or there's a lot of ways to get the ball into these guys' hands now and let them do their thing.


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[Assistant] And that, you can't discount that. You just, you can. That's to me where people are like dropping the ball a little bit in this conversation.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so, yeaah, you know, again, like, I love Devonte Adams. He's gonna be awesome with the Raiders this year. He's gonna be awesome. But, like,


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[Assistant] The Raiders to me are one of the few teams that are going to be able to really take advantage of all that he can bring.


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[Assistant] Not every offense could. You know, it's Josh McDaniels. They have every route under the sun and they're the greatest route running, teaching people I've ever seen in New England. Anybody would tell you that has been around that group. So, you know, that's what Brady has made Brady awesome in Tampa. He's coaching those receivers too. I'll tell you what, if Devonte Adams


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[Assistant] Listen, he's gonna have 110 or 120 catches this year. I can promise you that. It's Josh McDaniels. He's not gonna, he, he, Josh is smart too. He's gonna go, wait, I traded and gotta get all this money. I gave all this money to this guy. Like, I'm gonna, we're gonna use him. They're gonna, they're gonna wear him out.


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[Assistant] But, this is what I would like to say, to where, even though there's all that and I get it,


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[Assistant] Josh McDaniels, even though he's going to have all the offense to get, you know, Devontae Adams the ball and he can run all those routes, he could very easily just come up with plays to go, let me get the ball to De'Bell Samuel and Jamar Chase right here too. And they're going to do special stuff. So don't forget that.


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[Assistant] You know, not to say that, and also they can't do some of that route running too. That's to me where people are missing that. They are, they're missing that. You know? So, we'll see. Adams has been an offense that's been about, even in Green Bay, it was about precision and route running and all that.


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[Assistant] You know, and I again really like him. It's, it's not like I'm not trying to be a jerk. It's just not my cup of tea at the position as I've tried to explain to you. And I think you've seen that a little bit like to me in some of the big games. I do think you see that in some of the big games.


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[Assistant] Where big games, good defense, who's got a pretty good corner or something like that. You don't see Devontae Adams like show up necessarily all the time that way. And that does bother me. It's not necessarily always on him. I don't mean to say that.


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[Assistant] You know, there is some system, system reliance as compared to, like I said, with like, you know, Deebo, Jamar, Chase, hey, he's one-on-one, we're just throwing to him. I don't care what route he's got, we're going to him. Period.


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[Assistant] He's a great guy. I, this is where I hate doing the list because like, I know I'm gonna see him one day and I don't want him to not like me. Yeah. But, uh, I, I just, again, I'm, I, this is, it's my rankings. It's what I prefer. I do have pretty good experience about being around some good receivers and seeing some through my life.


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[Assistant] Alright, whether it's throwing them with them or, you know, just being around them in other ways. And yeah, you know, I guess, you know, that's, that's my main thing. I'm a little bit more, again, on just the pure physical ability. And, and, and, and to my point there with a guy like, like him at times is, you know,


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[Assistant] You know, hey, this year, the playoff game against Florida, good game. If I remember correctly from earlier, it's like, you know, he had eight or nine for around high eighties or nineties, which is a good game. Don't get me wrong. I got that.


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[Assistant] You know, but I mean, it's the 49ers. It's not like there was one special corner on that football team. You know, but I can go to years past, or I can go to the Buccaneers game and the championship game that year.


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[Assistant] And I know the stats were nothing special. It was like, you know, 7-8 catches, 60 yards. That's my problem with Devontae Adams a little bit compared to the other guys. You know, there's a lot of games like that to me.


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[Assistant] Nine for sixty-six in that game. Nine for sixty-six in that game, too. Yep. So, I mean, that's what I, there's just that explosive element I'm talking about that's just missing there. Again, Devontae Adams fans, Devontae Adams, please send your hate.


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[Assistant] 2020 went off. Cause he was freshly mad off your place. Yeah, I gave him the boo scene in.


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[Assistant] I think it's, it's, it's not necessarily an indictment on Lockett and Metcalf as more, it's to me an indictment on the Seattle offense the last few years. You know, I think that's what it really is. But then, I think what you add to that also is the, like, uhm,


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[Assistant] Okay, Sutton, Jerry, Judy, there's, there's the Patrick, right, Tim Patrick, and then there's KJ Hamler to go along with that as well. Yeah. And I know they traded away Noah Phan, but they still have a decent, uh, tight end there and, uh, uh, uh, you know, Ogwobogowonum, Ayo, Alberto, I'm gonna stick with him right now.


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[Assistant] Thank you, thank you. But I think that's probably the reason, right? I think it's the offense coupled with...


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[Assistant] I know. I have a hard time thinking it'll happen again.


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[Assistant] You know, especially no OBJ there, no Robert Woods there. I do think that, you know, everybody studies the Super Bowl winner a little bit.


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[Assistant] I, Justin Jefferson is one that intrigues me. He's gonna be in a better offense. It's gonna be more creative. And there's not necessarily a lot of people, like I know Thielen's there, but there's not other weapons that are gonna take away from, you know, catches and receptions. Like, Jamar Chase, as awesome as I think he is, you know,


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[Assistant] They don't always have to force feed them. They can just play like, like, oh, we got the match up and he's good. Oh, they've played coverage to him. Well, crap, we got to play over here with T Higgins and Boyd involved. So let's just give them the ball. They're not going to like bang their head on the wall and be like, I got to get into our chase. So I, you know, I do look at that and go.


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[Assistant] I do look at him, Justin Jefferson. Throw that up there one more time. There was one other name that kind of came to my...


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be shocked if CD Lamb is either. And again, this is just, you know, he's clearly going to be the go-to guy.


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[Assistant] Michael Gallup's coming off an injury. I think they are a past first football team.


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[Assistant] Alright, so that CD Lamb and Stefan Diggs will be my other two that I'd go with that are off the radar just a little bit or down the list. Diggs for that same reason. You know, one, hey, I think that offense is damn good. Josh Allen's the man.


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[Assistant] And I do think there is going to be a concerted effort to get him the ball because he's clearly the best receiver. I know Gabe Davis, Gabe Davis should help out and be better and do all that, but I think he's clearly the best guy that they will, they will work to.


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[Assistant] Via Stafford, the quarterback as compared to, you know, Hey, early on last year, teams are watching clips of Jared golf in the Rams on offense going, man, all right, this year, last year they did this and this, and then they get in the game and they were going, Whoa, damn, they don't do that anymore. They have a guy that can throw 105 mile per hour fastballs down. They've changed.


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[Assistant] And yes, that surprise element will not be there anymore.


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[Assistant] That's when you know it's big time. He's like, this hand writes so many important things, I don't shake with little pissants like Josh Schaller. I do it on my time, right? You might want to shake now. You shake when I'm ready.


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[Assistant] They are definitely the smallest coach quarterback combination in the game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's an athlete, he's got some stoutness to him, there's no doubt. There's no doubt. But hey, I loved it that they kinda hijacked the experience.


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[Assistant] Well, I think there is that. They wanted him so bad there in Miami that, you know, they got him and they just, they want to make it work. I will say, to your point, and again, I know the Miami fans don't like me and all of that, but uhm, I do think it proves that


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[Assistant] Hey, I'm really going to be interested to see what they do this year. Definitely one of the most talented teams in football. There's no doubt.


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[Assistant] They, they are stacked across the board. So, gonna be interesting to see what Mike McDaniel and Tua can do, do with all that talent.


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[Assistant] No, but there's those rumors still. I think there's still people that think like, if things didn't go well this year in Miami.


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[Assistant] You know, and they underperform or it got ugly. I think there's still people that think Stephen Ross will write the check to McDaniel and get them out of town and write a new check for Sean Payton and then Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] You know, as far as the way he maybe talks to players as your normal head coach and all that, but that doesn't mean like his messages is going to fall on deaf ears. I mean, he's, he's really smart. I think he'll be able to prove his, his, his, uh, football wisdom that way. And like I said, their team is really talented and.


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[Assistant] I'm not, I'm not rooting against them, that's for sure. I know everyone thinks I don't want two of them to win. That's not true. Definitely not true. I'm a big Mike McDaniel fan. I like lefty quarterbacks and they got things to


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[Assistant] You know, we can hit on that happened even throughout the break. Yeaah. And I think we're gonna be gifted with some news here as teams continue to start training camp and do all that as well here. Or do you know of something out there? No, I don't. I don't. I wish. Okay. Yeaah. But I gotta think something will happen. Something will happen, yeaah. Alright everybody, peace out. My man, Ahmed Fareed.


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[Assistant] Pulling an all-nighter once again. Baseball to football. In his red pants. Nobody does it better. Alright homies, be good.


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[Assistant] So everybody be good. Keep sending in the questions. Tell me about the wide receiver rankings. I'd love to have more conversations about this. It's a deep topic. There's lots of nuance to it.


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[Assistant] And I think there's a lot of things we could probably still explain or talk about there. So, hit me up. Ahmed, you the man. Peace out, everybody. Talk to you soon. Clap it up.


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[Assistant] Hi, I'm Mike Tirico and thanks for watching. Make sure to hit subscribe for the latest news and highlights from NBC Sports.


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[Assistant] Josh Allen, have a great year, thanks a lot. Grand BC Sports, Bills Camp, this is Peter King.


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[Assistant] You better green out then, dad. And I was like, what? What do you mean? Like, just smoke all the green and I can smoke? And she's like, yup, you just gotta get sick of it. So I tried that yesterday, I did do that. And are you sick of it? Not really, not to the extent I wanted to be.


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[Assistant] That's right. The struggle is real. I'm a weekend. No weed. I don't even feel like myself.


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[Assistant] Okay, but I'm, I'm, I'm keeping fighting on the good fight without the weed, without my spinach like Popeye that I need, but I feel pretty good. And this is Chris Sims on Button and probably weren't expecting that opening, but this is Ahmed Fareed, Chris Sims. We're here on a Monday morning.


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[Assistant] Is really rare when it's 92 out and a heat index of 105, okay? It's a hoodie.


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[Assistant] With the collar shirt. Oh, and he had the collar shirt popping over the hoodie, a la like the Bee Gees in the seventies, which I like there. So don't stop now. Look, I scared him out of it. Now he's into the nineties now. He put it back inside.


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[Assistant] Thank you. So I took my addiction to weed away, but you're still going hard with the Red Bull. I am. I am. So, one of us is disciplined and the other isn't.


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[Assistant] Yes, yes. You company guy. You company guy. It's not allowed on this set, right? Unless it's Kristen's unbuttoned t-shirt, you can't wear anything else, alright? Never forgotten that. Don't do that. So that's why I have to wear a hoodie over my polo.


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[Assistant] I mean, I wear a hoodie and I always, I'm like you, I wear sweatpants and a hoodie.


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[Assistant] There's no f***ing way. Aren't they single use? Well, sometimes, I guess they are now. I don't think I've seen a blanket since COVID, so maybe they're not even a real thing anymore. But like, I don't know, every now and then they weren't single use. I feel like they used to bring them out and I'd be like, uh, no, I don't know who's touched that. There's no way. Planes are disgusting to me. It's maybe the dirtiest thing on the planet.


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[Assistant] Uhm, second time to Cleveland, second flight canceled? Exactly.


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[Assistant] We gotta do it. I mean, it's, it's only torturing you. I'm okay with reading it. It seems to be bothering you. So I'm kind of enjoying these, this creep up to 50,000.


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[Assistant] There's almost a part of me that hopes it stops. There's like 49,900. So you just gotta keep going. Hold steady there. Hold steady for a year. Make, make Ahmed, you know, continue with this read. And like, man, can they show you some love on the promotion? Yeah, was I not in that one time? No, they don't even give a shit about you. Geez, they're just snoopers in there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know, Snoop's in it with an algorithm hat on, right? I mean, what the hell is going on? Here you are, part of the pod. Exactly. And they don't even give you love. They're sending you to Cleveland and they don't even give you a flight


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[Assistant] It's really hard, like the exercise. I mean, as you, you know me, I'm like psycho and I'm like, I can't narrow this down to one player. So I have three and four written down for everyone and I'm going to come up on the, when it comes time to make the decision, I'm just going to make the decision. But, uh, yeah, you know, it's, it's, uh, it is a


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's some duh ones where you're just like, oh, well, obviously it's this guy. I'm trying to avoid quarterbacks. Listen, we know the quarterbacks. Like, okay, I got that. I'm trying to avoid them for the most part. I think I got one or two in there.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, for me, I'm kind of a guy that looks at like, as I told you before the pod, I was like, you know, I kind of just look for issues with the team and then is there somebody there that can fill that void? And if that is, you know, if they did it, make an addition there, that's the guy to watch, so there's a lot of good ones here, I think.


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[Assistant] I mean, I've been with some great defensive line coaches, Rod Marinelli back in the day, the old head coach of the Lions, probably the best, one of the best defensive line coaches in the history of football. And like, no joke, to give Rod some credit, there was a time where I used to hear


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[Assistant] I mean, you would hear other coaches say that. He's the best coach in football. I know it didn't work out as a head coach and maybe he wasn't made for that specifically, but getting the most out of his unit on a year to year basis, man, he was amazing that way. Uhm, I don't even know what the point of that was.


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[Assistant] Definitely, there's so many good ones in the league that nobody ever talks about. And I hope that's, hey, we pride ourselves on that stuff, correcting narratives, stupid narratives, giving love to guys that don't get enough love, and I think it's a good way to little, you know, spread the word.


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[Assistant] Since we're so far away from where we are and I'm in the tunnel, like, you know, my thing, my earpiece, it's kind of going in and out. The connection from the live cast. Yep. And all of a sudden...


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[Assistant] I hear a segment where I go, wait, I'm in this segment and they're already in it.


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[Assistant] I have to run over there and good thing it wasn't an on camera one where I had to talk about Brian Young and I'm literally like fighting through people in the tunnel.


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[Assistant] I've seen Trevor Lawrence from a distance, really, until that night, right?


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[Assistant] The first thing you do when you see the guy is you go, what a specimen. I mean, there's no, there's no doubt about it. He is one of those quarterbacks where you go, holy shit. If you wanted to build one in a lab, that's kind of the guy you want, you know, muscles.


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[Assistant] You know, got some thickness to him, but not so thick to where you go, oh gosh, he's gonna, you know, be overweight or he's not gonna be able to move the way he wants. It's just the right touch.


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[Assistant] And then has a neck that is like, is un-quarterback like it really is. He has a neck like a middle linebacker. I mean, I don't know if you've rarely ever seen it, but it's like, I don't want to, it's a, he's the tequila spikes of quarterbacks with his neck. It's very impressive.


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[Assistant] And you've heard me a lot with Trevor Lawrence, a big fan. I know how talented he is and all that.


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[Assistant] But we've talked a lot over the last year about inconsistencies, throwing inconsistencies and technique where I think I've made comments like he could throw 10 out routes and seven of them. He throws them seven of them different, seven different ways, right? And not in the good way. Like we talk like, like a Matt Stafford or Patrick. He's trying to do it out of the book, but it's just different.


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[Assistant] Look every time and you're like, whoa, this time he stepped here. This time he's, you know, not in the right position at all. His shoulders out of whack. And this time, whoa, you let his arm get too long.


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[Assistant] To where you just go, Hey, I know he's got talent and can probably make it happen, but that's just, you're not going to last that way. You got to be more, a little bit more of a machine to be a superstar in the NFL that way. And I think the first thing that I came out was, you know, I saw him warming up and I said, Ooh,


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[Assistant] Motion looks good. He's definitely learned how to tighten it up just a little bit, not letting his arm get so far back behind him. He'd always has done a pretty good job of keeping his arm angle, but would really let it get far behind him at times. But as I started to watch, you know, it was the same release every throw.


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[Assistant] You know, body positioning was in perfect position every throw. And when I say that feet, hips, shoulders, all aligned the right way and then.


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[Assistant] He threw, if he threw 100 balls, he threw 98 strikes. I mean, it was, um, he was putting on a clinic.


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[Assistant] It didn't look good. There was weeks where I had people, media and even coaches on other staffs going,


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[Assistant] Oh, you know, like I told you, you're going to be right about this Zach Wilson. Lawrence is, was all over the place today in warmups, right? I got a few of those reports, but man, if he throws the ball like he did on, on Thursday night.


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[Assistant] Don't worry about anything. You know, again, it's a strong arm. He throws a really catchable ball. It spins really hard. Spinning is important. It sticks in the guy's hands. So I just was thoroughly impressed with


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[Assistant] The approach to the workout, how legit he played it. It wasn't like, oh wait, there's no rush out here and I'll pack the ball an extra time. He played it real, like he was in a game and was just absolutely on the money, uh, throughout the night and it was, it was fun to watch. People will say, uh, it's a workout, it's pregame, it doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] 100%. It's a workout, whatever, blah, blah, blah. I get that, but I've seen a lot of guys go through workouts like that and go...


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[Assistant] I didn't love the way that looked. I'd been around quarterbacks my whole life and then a few weeks later I go, well, I kind of saw that in warmups a few weeks ago and I'm not shocked to see that. It carries over. If you can't be a machine in air, you have no, you have no chance of being a machine when people are around you.


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[Assistant] And that's where the Brady's or Troy Aikmans or whoever through time, I mean, they're machines all the time. And I think he's gotten there and you could tell. So then, you know, I'm, I'm watching every throw and you know, I'm sitting there hoping I don't sweat through my suit and I'm like, whoo.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and it gets towards the end, and I kinda happen, like, I'm just watching, but I ended up being, like, kinda where he was about to run off the field, and I was like, oh great, this is perfect, he's kinda running right at me, let me just say hi.


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[Assistant] I said hi. I said, man, I mean, you look great out there, man. It looks like you really fix some like, you know, technique issues. And he was like, Hey man, thanks. I've been working at it. I'm glad you noticed. Like, so he obviously has, you know, the right approach here. I know he's been in contact with Peyton Manning.


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[Assistant] I know that too. So he's on the right path. And then I think when you add onto Doug Peterson.


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[Assistant] Mike McCoy is quarterback coach who was the head coach of the Chargers and played quarterback as well. I think he's got the right people on him to stay on him at all times and keep all these things clean. And I would be shocked, like I said in pregame, if there's not a big jump in his game this year.


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[Assistant] Is a looking, good looking team. They're, they're a bunch of lookers. Like, I, I, I at one point, you know, was like, whoa, I just couldn't get over, you know, you see, oh, there's Josh Allen on the defense end. And then,


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[Assistant] You know, woah, there's Trayvon Walker. I didn't see Devin Lloyd. I couldn't, I never got to see him. But then you look at him, and then you look at Brandon Scherf, and then of course you look at the quarterback, and then, you know, you see some of the receivers that go along with it.


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[Assistant] And you just start to go, holy sh- I mean, Jacksonville looks the part. They got a lot of studs on their football team. You know, Roy Robertson, Harris, I mean, just go through the list. You know, Kalevon Cheson.


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[Assistant] You know, he's just a bigger guy than I thought, you know, on pads. I always thought, oh, he's undersized. He's got a little more size to him. There was just Evan Ingram, the addition of that to the football team.


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[Assistant] Where, I'm not saying we're playoffs or anything like that, but what I am saying is they have talent and a look to me to go, they know what they're doing, they have a plan,


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[Assistant] And what they're looking for as far as players are concerned, and I think that's big. And I just think that this, a team that's...


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[Assistant] Going in the right direction. I was really impressed with the amount of specimens. And, and to add this, and, and not, you know, I'm not saying I'm the end all be all here.


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[Assistant] Jason Garrett and Dungy now come on the field, and I look at Jason Garrett and I go, man, Jacksonville, like, looks the part.


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[Assistant] And then we went on TV and blah, blah, blah. And then we got done with the post game show and Jason Garrett was like, Hey, hey, I didn't get to talk to you about what you said before, but he's like,


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[Assistant] You're right. He goes, I was really impressed with the way the Jaguars looked. You know, so again, I don't, not saying that's playoffs, but I think they're going to be a pain in the ass and they got playmakers. And with that quarterback, I'm just impressed with what they've done there. Trent Bocchi's obviously done a good job of finding some guys that fit the way they want to play, look and their style altogether.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Look, I mean look at that thing. It's wider than his head. It is wider than his head. I mean it's, it's, you don't see quarterbacks with necks like that. In fact, I think the...


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[Assistant] It's Peyton Manning-ish, really. Peyton has a long neck like Trevor Lawrence. But I don't think Peyton's was quite that thick. Peyton's was pretty thick, don't get me wrong, but not like that. And I don't think Peyton has the muscular...


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[Assistant] This guy does. He, this guy to me has a look of like, if he really wanted to like lift weights and be like that guy, he could be like, whoa, this is a specimen looking tight end who's jack. You know what I mean? He has that type of body. I think if he went that way, but she's not because he wants to stay loose and pliable and flexible to be a great quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yes. Mahomes has another neck. Mahomes' neck is thick, for sure. Those are two that jump out, like, to me right off the bat where I'd go, I would think they win the award in the neck department. Uh, yea, Mahomes has a neck that's not normal of a quarterback as well, but yea, those are two pretty good ones.


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[Assistant] He was probably up there in the neck olympics. He was, he was. In his prime. In his prime, right. In his next prime. Yea, in his first prime, as not working out and eating and maybe some beers took over, it wasn't quite the same.


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[Assistant] I watched some guys on their squad first off that weren't there. They left some guys at home. I believe they only traveled 70 where like Jacksonville had the full 90. So you didn't get to see it all. Uh, also, you know, it's hard to see it all. I, I, I watched Eric Carthrow for a good period of time, man. He looked great and I got to talk to him. That was awesome. Right.


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[Assistant] It's a, it's a, I don't want to be messed up here. It's, it's a good looking team. You know, and especially I think when, you know, Chandler Jones, who wasn't there, that's what I mean. Some guys that were, that would round about their look all together, you'd go, wow. I don't know if I even saw Darren Waller there either. I never saw him, but let me just say this right off the bat.


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[Assistant] We heard John Gruden last year say Darren Waller might be like the best player he's ever been with or seen.


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[Assistant] The Raiders couldn't stop talking about him either. The Raiders, I had a few coaches and the Raiders go, he might be the best player I've ever seen. And I was like, really? I was like, what, what is it? And they were like,


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[Assistant] I mean, you see how big he is and all of that, but...


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[Assistant] A little like Gronk in his prime. I think he, and I think this guy maybe more to accept, maybe not quite as big, but the athletic, like they were, he's faster and quicker than you think. The film doesn't really do it justice.


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[Assistant] And I had a few coaches go like, when we do drills and he comes at me and he's, uh, they're like, it's, it's like out of this world. Good. It's a guy that's, you know, six six and.


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[Assistant] I think the other thing I found fascinating, I had some fun with Derek Carr just about the offense because I, he was in, I was in the Gruden offense, he was in the Gruden offense, you know. Then I had to learn the Josh McDaniels offense, and now he's going through that too. And when I got a hold of the Josh McDaniels offense, I was like, what the f-


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[Assistant] Is this. What? One out slot, zero hole, one half. That's how they call formations and it's just a different thing. And so we had a little chuckle about that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I know he's doing great. They had nothing but positive things to say about him as well. But I'll tell you, here's the other thing that I noticed. And again, I was with Josh McDaniel in his first rodeo with the Denver Broncos.


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[Assistant] Then, and maybe I'm a little wrong because I was in Denver and playing, but I remember being there and that place being on culture shock. Like, whoa, the New England way and Josh are wearing our ass out. I remember at the end of the training camp, I mean, you don't ever hear coaches and trainers complain.


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[Assistant] And they were complaining at the end of the training camp and Josh McDaniels had only been there for like three months because it was just such a grueling schedule.


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[Assistant] You know, they weren't used to the New England way and all the detailed and scrutinizing of every little thing, right? Is he not doing that? He's not doing that now. It's the one thing I just, I know he's talked to me about it. He talked to me at the combine about it, how he was going to approach things differently and he might've, you know, ruled too much with an iron fist the first time around.


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[Assistant] I think the biggest thing is he's got a coaching staff this time and people in the front office.


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[Assistant] Who have been there with him, either in New England or in Denver and these places, so they know what they've signed on for. So it's not like, oh my gosh, I can't believe we're working this hard and we have to be here this late.


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[Assistant] And I think he's, you know, found the mightest touch and how to talk to people and do that. And I just felt like the vibe around it was.


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[Assistant] I kept saying, eh, you guys feel like you got the band back together. Like you're all happy to be together. You know what to expect from each other. You're all workers and know what it takes. And they were heavy happy that way. And I thought that was cool. It was definitely cool. Definitely different than at least what I remember from the first time around in Denver, where I feel like,


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[Assistant] If you had a coach on our team talking to another coach and they were like, Hey, what's going on? There was like a little roll in the eyes.


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[Assistant] Oh, it's been tough, but it's good, you know, it's good, like it wasn't like that this time at all.


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[Assistant] Full control, GM and head coach. And there was just too much on his plate. I think he would tell you that too. Now he's got a guy that's from New England and Dave Ziegler as the GM and a guy he's known for a long time so he can, hey, you're in the trust tree.


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[Assistant] I don't need to look at every player and everything, a film and all this, just, okay, we need a, we need a right guard. I know he'll narrow it down to three and we'll go in and make a decision which one of those three and I can trust him that he'll do the right work and have the right approach. And I think that's where it's a little more at ease this time around.


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[Assistant] One, like this is where I don't like the internet and shit. We're just gonna pile on Josh McDaniels cause he played running backs. Well, so what?


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[Assistant] First off, who in that running back list is like such a God's gift to the world that you don't play? Do they have Derrick Henry? Did I miss that they have Derrick Henry or Dalvin Cook on their football team where it's just thousand yards every year when they play football?


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[Assistant] That's right, who's on that list that they deserve to be treated like a superstar but they don't play?


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[Assistant] Like that's the first thing I would say. Second thing I would say is, he's from New England.


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[Assistant] Tell me when in New England they didn't run, play running backs in the preseason, but who would they have that's a superstar that they just go, whoa, we're not going to play him. I mean, Tom Brady was playing in the preseason.


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[Assistant] Like a few years ago when he was there. First preseason game. Brady, like, he'd get out there. Alright, maybe there were some years he didn't in that first one, but I think for the most part he did. He at least got a drive or so. And, so, but that would be my argument. This guy knows what he's doing.


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[Assistant] Alright, and I do think there's a thing in the NFL, especially right now with the lack of tackling and hitting and things that you could do in training camp, where I've heard coaches complain about this. You know, early on in the year, running back's missing holes.


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[Assistant] He's maybe not running as hard as he should be. I think they're getting him in game shape, getting them ready to go. They're learning a new offense. Like I just said, it's a totally different language. I'm sure some of the rules and blitz protection.


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[Assistant] Some of the rules in their route running are completely different than what they used to be. So he's getting him used to that. It wasn't like he was wearing anybody out in that game. He got everybody in, got them some touches. And last thing I'll say about this, Ahmed, is


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[Assistant] But, they gotta hit the ground running. They don't have time to be like, oh well, hey, it's early and our running backs are still getting a feel for the game. I mean, they start out the Chargers, and then it's the Cardinals, and then it's at the Titans, and then, oh, they got a Cupcake game against the Broncos. Yeah, okay, great. Who everyone thinks is going to the playoffs this year. And then it's at the Chiefs. They're in arguably the best division of football.


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[Assistant] And they were a playoff team last year, and there's expectations, and I think he's trying to get this group ready to go. So, it's where it's a little bit like, it's where I don't like social media, we're just gonna jump on something, not really think about it.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's crushed it in camp to this point.


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[Assistant] To where I think they wanted to, yeaah, rev it up a little bit with them.


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[Assistant] No doubt about it. He's not getting a free pass here. And with guys like, you know, Zamir White there, I mean, he's a damn good player. And of course, you know, Kenyon Drake being there is damn good too. And like I said, that offense.


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[Assistant] It's got more rules and things than any other offense in football. And it's just not easy to digest and think like, oh, you know, I can just, when it was a real game, I'll be ready to go coach. That's not the way New England works. You know that. You know that they're not like, oh yeah, we, we think he's got it. You got to prove it to them. And then they trust you and then you got to keep proving it to them.


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[Assistant] I mean, of course Josh Allen looked real. Uhm, Evan Ingram I thought was maybe the most impressive ball catcher.


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[Assistant] Out of everybody. I mean, that's what we've heard for years. Yeah, Christian Kirk looked really good. Yeah, so Evan Ingram, I'm really hoping that this new place is like a...


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[Assistant] A fresh start for that guy, you know, who had to deal with, you know, some haters in the New York area, and rightly so. He dropped some balls in some big moments and didn't quite live up to maybe expectations.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's probably the group, but I'm just trying to think if there's anybody else out there that really popped to me. But I will say, I was a little biased in my attention.


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[Assistant] Because Trevor was on one side, I saw Derek Carr warming up and I watched that and then I was like, okay, Trevor's doing like a legit warm up over here workout. Let me watch more of this. And I was probably on their side a little bit more than the Raider said.


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[Assistant] It's not the most impressive roster in football. It's one of those where you look at it and you go,


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[Assistant] It lacks playmakers, right? So I'm not trying to be a jerk, but like difference makers on both sides of the ball. Uh, that's where, you know, to me, clearly,


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[Assistant] You know, AJ, Terrell, in the secondary, Grady, Jared are probably their two best defensive players. On the offensive side of the ball, we know it's Kyle Pitts, but then, then who is it? And I don't know. And that's where, like,


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[Assistant] I think for the sake of this, I am gonna, Drake London. I'm not trying to be a cop out here with like, you know, going with the first pick of the draft. Hey, I got some of that too, of course, that's what you're gonna see through here. But I think this is one where it fits. First off, Drake London.


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[Assistant] I would say out of the receivers that were drafted in the first round was probably the guy that was the most all over the place with people I talked to in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Some people didn't have him in their top five. Some people thought he was the best receiver in the draft. It was a little all over the place. I think it depended on how much you value speed and route or, you know, size and route running. Some teams were like, wait, he's not fast enough. And I don't trust that.


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[Assistant] Can he separate in the NFL? I know he's a really good route runner and he's big and he's going to make those types of catches. But is he going to be able to beat people over the top? Is he going to be able to shake somebody off the line of scrimmage and running a slant route and then catch the ball and actually pull away? Or is he going to catch it and get tackled for seven? Those are the things I want to see. And when you're a top 10 pick, you know, I expect you to catch it and pull away a little bit.


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[Assistant] Or break a tackle and make something happen there. So I really do, again, I'm not trying to be a cop out here. I think that's the guy for a team that lacks difference makers. They don't have a great running back or anything like that right now. He's the guy I look at to go, let's watch him and see what he's made of, you know, and see if he can really contribute year one.


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[Assistant] 100%. You know, and listen, again, even for, you know, some of these, I want to give you two names and all that, but, you know, I even take the second round guy from Penn State where I just go, well, you know, Arnold, Arnold, uh, Ebikiti, I kind of practice his name, from Penn State.


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[Assistant] Who's rushing the passer there in Atlanta? And he is one to watch. So they're one that's a little bit obvious that way. I know there's the Desmond Ridders out there and all that, but I think Drake London is the one that takes the cake.


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[Assistant] Three technique type of guy. Just shoot the gap and win cause he's athletic and explosive off the ball and doing all that.


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[Assistant] That's not what they're doing down there in D&P. So I think, yeaah, it's more 3-4 based. And that's where I think you're gonna see him.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe over the tackle a little bit, playing head up. And that's where they are going to move him around a little, uh, to where you're not going to see him necessarily always playing that traditional defensive tackle spot. I'm interested to see if he can do it. I know he can do it, but at what high level can he do it, I think is going to be the interesting thing to watch.


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[Assistant] That's right. Get him, Ahmed. Get him. This is where we need his mic opened, Pete, so we can hear him stumble and mumble now that he's all flustered.


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[Assistant] Seahawks, like you look at them and I look at their defense and I go, man, they got a lot of good defense alignment. I don't know if there's a star there. You know, I do look at it and go like, who's going to be the guy that, you know, pops off for them. That can be that difference maker a little bit like we were just talking about. And they do have the second round pick. Boye Mafay from Minnesota is really impressive.


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[Assistant] You know, I also look at the tackle position. We know they got Charles Cross. You know, the kid they had at right tackle last year who was a rookie, um, Jay Curran. But, but I think ultimately,


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[Assistant] I'm going with my second round Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker to me, and maybe I'm in my own little world here, but I think he has a chance to be a superstar at running back. And if he is what I think he is, it's gonna change his team around.


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[Assistant] Whoever's at quarterback, which I expected to be Gino early in the year.


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[Assistant] Offensive line, I think is gonna be better than it's been in years past. And then you have an explosive run. This is Chris Carson. Except...


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[Assistant] He has an extra rocket up his ass. Chris Carson was never going to break anything more than like 25, 30 yards. This kids can go 80, let alone run you over like Chris Carson could too.


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[Assistant] So I look at him, Rashad Penny, we know we have him, but I think he can be that kind of difference maker that can give their offense an attitude and a playmaker to where it just opens up everything. And I'm going to say him to see, yeaah, let's see if he looks the part and is what I say he is.


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[Assistant] It's cool to see. It is. He's a guy that he certainly popped through the draft process. You know, I always worry with some of those longer guys. It's not, I know he, what did he run? 4-2 at the combine? 4-2-9? Something like that. It was off the charts good.


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[Assistant] You know, but what I worried about just watching on film is like short area quickness. You know, hey, you gotta turn the hips and now explode. That's where it was just a little less than to me. Uhm, but it's cool to see that he's, you know, showing out there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, 4-2-6, Pete's telling me. That's what I mean. Yes. So, but it's, it's, it's the flipping in the hips. It's can you plan this foot in the ground of the backfetel, backpedal and still have that same type of explosion of speed that we saw at the combine? Uh, I, I gotta see that stills, but, but it sounds like, uh, people are seeing that.


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[Assistant] Definitely can. You know, you look at him, he's versatile, defensive tackle, you know, big defensive end, can do that kind of stuff. And this is what I was talking about with their defensive line.


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[Assistant] LJ Collier, I know he's been, hasn't lived up to first round expectations, but he's a good player. Him, Shelby Harris, Alton Robinson's not bad. Darrell Taylor from Tennessee. Yep. Another guy, you go, ooh, okay. You know, there's the, there's Puna Ford, there's Quinton Jefferson, there's Brian Moan.


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[Assistant] Or like at least get like the HBO Max app, right? Yea, I don't have that. You can do that. Yea, it's easy.


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[Assistant] Is that right? Do they? I don't think so. I think maybe after training camp's over, you might get them for free. They're not gonna do that right now. I mean, who do you think you are that you're gonna scam the game like that from HBO?


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[Assistant] They got a few guys that are like, I mean, hey, Jeff Acuta just jumps out. It's not my guy, but he's definitely like, come on, we got to live up to that, you know, number three pick in the draft expectation.


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[Assistant] Man, they got that tight end for Virginia Tech that I love who was hurt, Jamie Mitchell, but I'm not going to throw him out there too because he is a fun kind of under the radar watch. I'm going to go with DJ Chark.


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[Assistant] DJ Chark, to me, the Lions don't have a number one receiver. And to me, he's the only guy I look at to go, he has number one receiver potential.


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[Assistant] So, I want to kind of see how he's used in the preseason, in the preseason. Are they using him like he's the number one guy? And then, I am a believer in his, I mean his speed and size, it is real.


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[Assistant] So, if they can kind of develop that number one guy, I think that's where you start to go, oh woah, now Amon Ra St. Brown's open, and woah, Josh Reynolds looks better, and woah, T.J. Hockinson down the middle.


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[Assistant] So they need that one extra weapon, in my opinion, and he's the guy that has the chance to do that. And we got a little banged up last year.


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[Assistant] And had a, I think a foot, ankle injury. Uhm, but so, he's the guy, I'm gonna tell you guys, one year, ten million dollar contract. And I think he has the type of potential and could have the type of year where,


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[Assistant] Whoa, one year, $10 million contract. We get to December and they go, man, he's been phenomenal for us. Let's sign him up long-term and make him, you know, one of the staples for our football team. So I'm going to pick DJ chart.


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[Assistant] You know, cause he can, he can beat you deep, but he can do all the slot stuff. He's a phenomenal route runner. Um, and, and that's where I go like, yeah, you couple him with one more guy that can scare a defense and you got something working with that tight end and you're lions. And I know you wear that shirt color for them today for.


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[Assistant] You know, that offensive line, I think you got some ass kickers there. So, there's some potential for that offense to be...


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[Assistant] I'm excited for the Lions. I have a lot of guys on their team that I look at and just go, I think they got something here. Let's see if they can turn into what I think.


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[Assistant] That's where, that's where it's like, you know, you take the guy they took in the second round, Joshua Pascal, who we talked about during the draft, who I love from Kentucky. We have our Levi Ozenrique, who, you know, was solid last year, but not great. And then you got your Aliyah McNeil, big guy who I loved two years ago as well.


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[Assistant] So, I look at those guys and go, man, there's some potential there to have some real, you know, ass kickers, uh, that excite me as their football team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's some potential with the Lions, and I think it's the first time in a while that I think I've said those words with Lions. Not to say I don't think it's playoffs, but I wouldn't be shocked if


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[Assistant] You know, they floored it with 500. I wouldn't be shocked.


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[Assistant] Right, okay, I like him, certainly. It's a position where, you know, I think that they gotta find somebody opposite of Eddie Jackson to be like a consistent player there. I understand that thought, for sure. Did you guys say anything else you wanted to say, or is that it?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I mean, hey, when you look at the Bears, we've had this conversation I feel like a little with the two teams since we're kind of starting at the bottom of the list here at the NFC.


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[Assistant] Lack of wow and difference makers, is this another team? Or you just go, alright, on defense.


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[Assistant] Who is it other than Ro Kwon and Robert Quinn? Give me another guy that can make some shit happen on their own. Like, who is it? That's where I'm just not sure. An offense? I wanna say the same thing. I'm not really worried about Justin Fields from what I saw last year. He's gonna be plenty good. Is there enough around him to make him look the way he should look?


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[Assistant] That's what I question. I'm gonna go with their guy and, and, and...


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[Assistant] Because of lack of weapons, and Darnell Mooney's the only guy I look at to be scary, is the Veilus Jones from Tennessee.


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[Assistant] Who I liked, you know, slot receiver, you know, he can be that guy that can be a weapon, you know, speed sweeps, maybe a toss sweep, reverse, whatever, slant, break a tackle. He's kind of one of those slot receivers that's built like a running back that plays wide receivers. But I just look at that as like, hey,


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[Assistant] You know, we gotta find who else can help out their team and Justin Fields and make a play outside the realm of the playbook. And to me, he's one of the few guys that maybe has that potential. Let's see what he looks like. He's the guy I'm gonna be watching, I think, in these first two preseason games.


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[Assistant] I do. I mean, you know, coming from Green Bay, it's a guy that, yea, has been a little bit of the floor, you know, been with some other good people up there. Of course, been with Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers knows technique of throwing football, so I'm sure he's gonna be able to teach some of those things to Justin Fields. That's gonna be great. You know, so, I'm, I'm, I'm, that's good.


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[Assistant] It's just, you know, I think it's the obvious. It's just, is there enough around him to really...


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[Assistant] Show us what he really can deliver. And they're a team that's you know, in the


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[Assistant] So it was a 3-4-ish type defensive team, and now they're going to the 4-3, so there's a transition of personnel here. And hey, they got a defensive head coach, and I feel like they were probably a little more worried about the defense, this free agency and offseason, than the offensive side of the ball. Uhm, so I could see Justin Fields, to a guy like me, maybe looking better this year.


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[Assistant] But not looking like that to the public because I don't know how good they're going to be on the offensive side of the ball. I just, hey, this is what sucks about football. You could be a superstar and be on a shit team and no one ever know. And this would be one where, yeah, I don't know.


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[Assistant] If there's enough weaponry and stuff there to scare people and help Justin Fields show us all that he has to offer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, he wants to be in the car if he can. So, yep, it's, uh, it's quite the experience with Peter King on a, on a car ride. So, that'll be fun.


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[Assistant] Give us the, give us the ins and the outs of Peter King.


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[Assistant] How many times did he burp on the car ride to Pittsburgh?


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[Assistant] How much Daniel Jones plays, I would, I would imagine a little bit. I would think so. You know, again, it's a new system. They're going to want him to be comfortable. This is, yeah, it's a big year for him. It's big for Brian Dayball. Yes, I would think you're going to see him in all three preseason games, just at least a little bit in every one.


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[Assistant] Just to get a, continue a feel for the offense and everything there. Uhm, yeaah. Daniel Jones, hey listen, we all know this is one where I did not pick Daniel Jones. I did not.


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[Assistant] We know that. It was like a little too obvious, right? And to me, there are some other things that dictate Daniel Jones' progress or how he looks that they gotta be in place if we want Daniel Jones to look good anyways. Like what I've been arguing. To me, again, Daniel Jones is not the problem with the New York Giants football team.


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[Assistant] He's not. And I know it's the quarterback we all want to do that, so he's not gonna be the guy I pick. Alright?


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[Assistant] I know Kayvon Thibodeau is certainly up there as far as, and I, I mean, anything you talk to, he sounds like he's been pretty good so far. Really? Hopefully I was wrong about my draft eval.


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[Assistant] So Evan Neil, I think finally gives them some attitude and a chance. And if you listen to the Giants and some of the things they say, you know, when you start to hear the words freak and all the time, he's obviously opening eyes. I don't know if it's been perfect.


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[Assistant] I don't care. He's, he's a rookie. He's gonna have some mistakes and some practices that don't look as good. But you can obviously take away from coaches and players that he has been a guy that they go, whoa.


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[Assistant] Let's trade em, let's trade em and go get somebody else. Alright, this is again, this is part two of why I hate social media.


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[Assistant] So here's Daniel Jones dropping back in the shotgun. He's looking to his left and now he's going to throw, uh, what I would have called an acute route back in the day. It's a 12 yard, like 12 to 14 yard comeback on the right side to Kenny Galladay and the ball is


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[Assistant] Four feet wide of Kenny Galladay to catch the ball. And of course, let's, let's just blame Daniel Jones cause that's easy. And all the idiots on Twitter will chime in and go, yeah, he sucks. That's our quarterback.


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[Assistant] No, it is your quarterback. And you don't know what you're talking about. So calm down. Okay? This is what happens in football. Here. And then, you know, we, you and I, and I'm ramped up now. But you know, like, timing and rhythm, right? We talk about that all the time. Timing and rhythm.


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[Assistant] So, here's a route where he looks to his left, he's been taught within that coverage that that route should be open. And that coverage, it should be open. It should be there. So he's looking to his left, and as he's


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[Assistant] Coming back to the right, he's gathering stuff to throw, but he's been taught. Hey, if you don't like what you see over here,


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[Assistant] Come over here, and this should be open against this coverage. Alright? Let's go back to the video tape here if we can one more time. Now, let's watch Kenny Golladay at the top of the route. You tell me what you see there. Slippage. Slippage! Okay, so now he slips, he doesn't come out of the break. If he didn't slip and came out of the break better, he might get a hand or dive and be able to catch this.


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[Assistant] There's that aspect. Plus, I believe that's 27. I want to say that's the Central Florida kid from last year, but I can't remember off the top of my head. He's flat footed and makes a pretty good break on the ball.


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[Assistant] So as a quarterback, Daniel Jones looking to his left, now coming back to his right, kind of starting the throwing motion. And as he's throwing it, he starts to evaluate, whoa, Goladay didn't get out of his break and this guy's flat footed. Let me throw the ball in a safe spot.


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[Assistant] Right? That maybe he can get it. If not, it's incomplete because we're down here at the 20 yard line and everyone gets on me for turnovers and fumbles, so I'm getting the ball out of my hand to make sure we're in a pretty good situation here. Alright? And he's got Leonard Williams bearing down on him just as he's throwing it.


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[Assistant] All right. He threw that ball there deliberately. That was a, that wasn't, oh, I meant to throw it five feet to the left and let it go. He evaluated the situation correctly. If he threw that ball on the number, that was a pick six and 90 yard touchdown. So back off. Come on everybody. Like let's not just be so.


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[Assistant] I don't know, easy to jump on, just easy, stupid narratives. I just, it annoyed me when I saw that and there was nothing wrong with that throw or that decision there.


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[Assistant] These guys are seeing each other every day, sometimes twice a day. So that DB, he's probably got a good feel of all of these movements and motions and he's probably seen that player already a handful of times during training camp.


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[Assistant] So again, that's, that's part of what, what you go through right here, but let's not evaluate, you know, Daniel Jones off a one throw that went viral for some reason on Twitter.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no, no question. And Dexter is, uh, he's one of those guys where, you know, he's got the potential to be an ass-kicker and take over. Will it happen? I know, will it happen? He kinda...


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[Assistant] Yeah, didn't maybe dominate quite the way I would have liked to have seen him dominate. I do think this defense will fit him with Wink Martindale and that Baltimore Raven style there. Uh, but yeah, we got, we gotta see him show up. He's definitely, we know Leonard Williams is good.


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[Assistant] Who's the other guy that, you know, can be an ass-kicker, to your point, and really, you know, apply some pressure on it all?


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna, uh, I'm not gonna lie there. That's, that's, I agree. That's yours. I'm gonna go with it. I am. This is one where it's just, it's a little too obvious. They got a lot of things, you know, that I like on their team.


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[Assistant] And I know there's some offensive line evaluations we've got to see in Ike Ikuanu, you know, left tackle, and I'm excited to see all that. Off as a lineman was the weakness of their football team last year. But yea, I want to see Baker Mayfield. There's no doubt about it. They traded for him for a reason.


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[Assistant] Sam Darnold is not an untalented slouch, right? He's got some talent, but I think we all expected Baker Mayfield to, at some point,


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[Assistant] Outshine Sam Darnold. It's hard. He's behind in the playbook. He's behind by a few months. You know, I think he's probably getting to the point of training camp where he's maybe getting close to catching up a little bit here, but he's definitely behind the 8 ball in that stand-by. There's where a lot of people are like, I think, you know, well I can't believe he hasn't won the job yet. First off,


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[Assistant] Like, this is not Aaron Rodgers where he just comes to the team and he goes, here you go, he's done good things, he's done better than Sam Darnold, but it's not to the point where you just go, well, we don't even make him compete, he's the man. And don't forget, Sam Darnold's making more money than Baker Mayfield too.


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[Assistant] There's no politics that are involved in this. There's no, we traded three first-rounders to get this guy he's gotta play. Or we drafted him number one and we gotta play. Or we gave him 40 million and he has to play. Right? So they can play it out and go, you gotta earn it. You gotta earn it. And I'm still gonna go with him.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, I do. I wanna see how he does in the new place, new system, being high, you know, being behind in that, you know, department as far as the playbook's concerned, and how he looks compared to Sam Darnold. So yeaah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna cop out and take the easy one on that one. Yeaah, I wonder, so they should play quite a bit. I would think so, right? That's a team to me that's like,


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[Assistant] You know, they gotta play. They got too many young guys. They gotta learn to like be a little better in situational football and especially the offensive side of the ball. I'm not really worried about their defense. It's kind of stacked.


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[Assistant] Their offense though, was definitely the Achilles heel of their football team, and needs to play better this year. So I would think you're right. That new system, Ben McAdoo, all of that, that's be interesting to see.


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[Assistant] Who's out there? Well, I know. I guess they want another big guy is what I'm guessing they're saying. They got a lot of athleticism and guys who can do that. I'm guessing they want another space eater. Derrick Brown, isn't he their big guy? He's kind of their everything guy. And Derrick Brown is, he's a guy, who'd you say, Pete?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Sue might be a guy that they might look at a little bit, for sure. Derek Brown, I think is worthy of, like, maybe being on your D-line watch. Just from the point of, really good, can he go into Superstar this year? Can he be going to,


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[Assistant] Hey, I'm Chris Jones and, you know, uh, DeForest Buckner territory, right? And that's, I think, worth watching because I think he's a phenomenal talent that way. But man, you know, yeah, I, you know, Davion Nixon, who they got last year from Iowa, they got Ayadonis from, you know, the commanders, uh,


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[Assistant] Ionitis, excuse me. But I would guess that's what they're looking for as far as that type of guy. Uhm, but I was surprised. I read that too, uh, Amin. Yeah, we'll see if they can, we'll see if they can do it though.


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[Assistant] That offense was not good. We talked about it a lot last year. I mean from about week five, week six going on, I felt like I could sit there and watch them and start calling out plays. It was, it was too obvious. Too many repetitive calls.


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[Assistant] You know, no creativity. And then when you add on the fact that, whoa, we can't block and Christian McCaffrey's hurt, you know, Sam Darnold, he didn't have a whole lot of chances to be real successful either. So they're a team that's got some talent. Hopefully they can fix that offensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] I like that. Interesting name. That is a good one. I definitely didn't go there, okay? Uh, I did like watching him in the draft process, certainly.


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[Assistant] And then they, you know, they still got Logan Thomas, right, who's hurt and coming back from injury. So that'd be interesting, the tight end position overall. I am staying on the offensive side of the ball.


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[Assistant] Right? I love my, I wanna see my Percy Butler from Louisiana and what he can do at the safety position because that is a real issue for their football team. I think they, but I think the guy I'm gonna go with


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[Assistant] I wanna, it's either him or De'Ami Brown. Somebody's gotta show up there for that football team.


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[Assistant] They need that, hey, we know we got McLaurin. Great. You know, we gotta, we gotta, uh,


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[Assistant] A pretty good running back in Gibson and then JD McKissick, you know, to come down and be the third down back.


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[Assistant] Who else can help out, you know, McCorm? We know, I know Jahan Dotson's gonna be there. I'm not really worried about him. So that's good. But, you know, Curtis Samuel, they gave a little money too.