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[Assistant] Oh my, you need an owner, need an owner over there. They need at least one person on top say, Hey, we are missing out on those plane rides home used to be awesome. Now granted the.


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[Assistant] The next generation, like the more recent one, closer to my retirement, they weren't as...


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[Assistant] You know, popping off, but the OGs, you know, the athletic trainers, the equipment managers, the people that have been around from the first regime. I mean, we tried our best to hold on to the good times there, but man, those original flights there, my first three years.


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[Assistant] A road win what meant like it was clubbing the sky coming home and it was a.


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[Assistant] Blast. It was an absolute blast. Card games happening everywhere. Dice was being played. Lot of booze. Every music playing over the thing. I mean, it was, it was awesome. It was, it was like, it was almost like everybody was like, this is what we work our asses off for is for this trip home. And then immediately afterwards, it was like, all right, now it's done.


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[Assistant] I can't believe you didn't get to experience that. That is a real shame. That is a damn shame.


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[Assistant] Well, it was like one of the first times that Mr. Ursay's daughter flew on our team plane. So it was the, uh, the new regime and we're getting a little loose. Made a rookie do karaoke.


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[Assistant] His party's over. That guy's about to go puke himself. He knows his entire dream is about done. A couple more big news. Trent Williams to the 49ers for a third and a fifth round draft pick. Uh, Joe Staley retired.


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[Assistant] Tease and peace, an incredible career for Joe Staley. I met him once at the Pro Bowl. Good guy. Uh, nothing really outside of that.


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[Assistant] But Trent Williams went for a third and a fifth round draft pick. If you're a Packer fan, you have to assume that pick number 30 probably would have got you Trent Williams.


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[Assistant] By the way, I'm not saying you should have done that, but if you get Trent Williams in there, I'd assume fans would be like, okay, not a bad play here other than the third and the fifth. I expected a lot more for Trent Williams, especially with how long and how wild this has all played out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how they would have to figure that out because they need a right tackle. They don't need a left tackle. But I assume you'd be able to figure it out somehow if you could trade away a third and a fifth for this dude. But San Francisco 49ers need him for sure.


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[Assistant] Well that's what I'm saying, on paper, my past set, potentially gives up zero sex all year.


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[Assistant] I'll skip that part of the paper. Wipe that piece of paper out. Okay. I'm just, you know what I mean? I'm talking about just strictly. Technique. Technique wise, my technique might be the most sound pass set I've ever seen in my entire life. Every time I do it, offensive lineman go, hey, that's all pro pass technique.


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[Assistant] Nah, nah, Technique says I'm good. Technique says I do it on 30. Okay, cool, cool. Yeah, I read it on a book, watching YouTube. You got a pump fake in your repertoire for that too. Yeah, yeah, I can faint too if I need be.


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[Assistant] Just one time. Just one time. If you lose one time out of 70 times every single game, you're getting cut immediately. 16 seconds. This guy gave up 16 sacks. Well, that guy sucks. Get him out of there. What a terrible job.


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[Assistant] Worse. Trent Williams is very good at that though, you know, and said, I'm not doing this for Washington anymore. Give me the fuck out here. They wouldn't train him last year.


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[Assistant] The Detroit Lions are denying that they turned their back on a trade deal with, uh, Billy O Stooge on, uh, draft day two, whenever he lost his mind in fantastic fashion. Stomped out of the room, his kid had to get out of his way. Sorry, Dad. Sorry, Dad.


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[Assistant] That would be with that big beard and tycon deroga, just charging it to the game, man. Hey, sorry about that. Hey, sorry about your luck. Good luck out there. Who are you taking? Oh, the Andre Hawk. Oh no, you traded him. Oh, okay. Oh, now you've got 10 seconds left. Make your decision bill. And he's the, he's the head coach and GM. So it's literally just him.


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[Assistant] Oh, it's awesome. He is so mad right now. I just got off the phone with your fucking coach. His son's there. I couldn't even fathom that.


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[Assistant] That was awesome. See, that was the drama I wanted to see. And by the way, that probably happened to other GMs, but they show it because it's Billy O'Brien. Just like what with Jay Cutler, right? Whenever Jay Cutler was upset, get it on camera, get it on camera. You hear a director almost in your ear saying, get him on camera, get him on camera. By the way, tease and peace to his marriage as well.


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[Assistant] Seven years of marriage, a couple of reality show magical moments, gone in one happy divorce.


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[Assistant] I didn't watch the show, but from the clips I seen, looked like it was a very hilarious relationship. They're traveling and everything and then whammy out of nowhere it's gone. It's over. Black and white post from Jay Cutler.


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[Assistant] Yeah, she, she asked if, uh, tuna was actually chicken in the sea. They portrayed her bad in that show.


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[Assistant] Hey, we should start this show, by the way, shouldn't we? Wait till you see this, AJ. We got something special for you. We are.


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[Assistant] Detroit Lions got better. Shout out, Year of the Buffalo. BANGER!


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[Assistant] I forgot his name, cause I, I went to text him last night, but I couldn't find him in my text thing. Dave, I think. I forgot his name. He's, he was supposed to come out to our office, by the way. Right before this quarantine happened, I was gonna have him come out to this office.


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[Assistant] Bingo. That would be Nick. That's why I brought him in. I was gonna have him sing Nick in and then once that was over, he was gonna follow Nick around for the entire day singing everything he did. I was so pumped. I was so pumped for it. I was in a text message thing and all of a sudden quarantine happens. I was supposed to bring in Master Phil.


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[Assistant] He's talented. I don't remember his name. I wanted to text him last night and say, hey, thanks for that opening. I think me and AJ are definitely going to use it. We love it.


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[Assistant] We moved in this weekend, by the way. Worst thing on earth, moving. Sucks. Right now, too.


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[Assistant] Well, the funny thing about it, where they moved into, there's an Airbnb in the same building they moved in, in the same house they moved into, down kind of its own confined area.


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[Assistant] After signing Taysom Hill to a two year 21 million dollar deal, which is really a one year 16.3 million dollar deal. If you're the New Orleans Saints and you know, Drew Brees has a limited amount of time left.


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[Assistant] And you can get the guy who led the NFL and pass yardage last year and hopefully groom him and make him a better quarterback. Is that not an incredibly smart move to do so? And also you pay Taysom Hill to let them know like, Hey, we appreciate you, but you're not really our backup quarterback at this point.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but still, whenever the, whenever the Patriots do anything, it's like, you're, you're trying to figure out what Bill Belichick's gonna do, not if whether or not he cares, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] This thing, you know, Bill Belichick was born and raised in the Navy, right? His dad was the Navy head coach. So the Navy programs like his home. I wonder if he got some Navy seal to come train this dog to be the best dog in the history. That dog is just chilling, nothing going on, no distractions. I'll sit here and then I,


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[Assistant] Even being Bill Belichick wins being Bill Belichick. I mean, this is just, this makes me think, not only can he coach anybody to be good at football, he can coach dogs now too. They're going to win fucking 10 games next year.


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[Assistant] They're going to win 10 games next year. That dog is a perfect depiction of his ability to coach and teach absolutely anything.


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[Assistant] Him and that dog relationship is a beautiful one. That was awesome. That one today. Uh, that, that one the weekend. Also, I thought Roger Goodell really did well with himself.


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[Assistant] I thought Roger Goodell really did well for himself. I put out a tweet, I said, you know who won the weekend? I think Roger Goodell. Now granted,


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[Assistant] There was a lot of backlash to that tweet. I was not 100% accurate, it turns out. I was not what everybody else felt, but I didn't watch the draft with sound on.


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[Assistant] You know, so maybe if people chose to watch it in mute.


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[Assistant] And just see Roger Goodell in different places and spaces and costumes and gimmicks.


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[Assistant] You would have appreciated it a lot more because normally the only good tell you see is suited, booted, standing, answering, but not really answering any questions. Now we've got a chance to see him on a chair. He's loved for 30 years. He was eating those M&Ms. I saw him every once in a while. He was eating those M&Ms. He was eating those M&Ms.


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[Assistant] Put in screens, he's a classic old white dad. I mean, he's done everything. Uh, now, granted, if you listen to it, I'll listen back to it a little bit.


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[Assistant] Well, people say he sound like a robot, and he sound exactly like the same studio he's always been, but without sound, I thought he had a fantastic weekend, honestly, a fantastic weekend.


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[Assistant] That lady would have probably suspended me or expelled me whenever I was a kid at some point. And if I was publicly intoxicated as a teenager, we would have to see her like Zuko. Zuko was the county or the borough magistrate. She looked like she was a stern business. She did it. And then somebody else did it as well. So he didn't do all, he did tap out of it.


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[Assistant] This is NFL football television, by the way. You put that other shit on here, I'm turning it off immediately. That's what Roger Goodell was saying underneath. I like to hear that a little bit. They view college football as competition. They don't like it much.


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[Assistant] The most brilliant thing I've ever, this weekend I was sitting on the couch, draft on mute, scrolling through my phone trying to catch up on life, and all of a sudden I see him with his tweet of the NFL auction sending it to him saying he's about to win it.


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[Assistant] I cried laughing, I think. I think I actually cried laughing thinking about it. He got dragged out of the Super Bowl while wearing a fake mustache, just a couple years ago, at Roger Goodell's discretion.


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[Assistant] He's gonna be sitting, he's gonna be sitting on the armchair of the, of that 30 year old chair with Goodell. He said he's willing to go up to seven figures. He's a fucking genius. It is the most genius thing I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] I think Dave, I think Dave at this point, he knew that they would somehow not let him win.


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[Assistant] So he was like, I gotta at least let people know that I'm trying this because.


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[Assistant] If he thought there was a chance of him actually winning, I don't think he- I think he would have kept it until he actually got it. So somehow, I assume there's already something cooking. I mean, what a-


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. I mean it's just, I mean at this point, it's just like literally, just holding the strings right now, whatever.


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[Assistant] Don't label any of these guys Michael. Sure sounded like you just said that Adam Silver's your commissioner. And a lot of people, by the way, were telling me that in response to my tweets are like, Adam Silver's my commissioner. I was like, well, I won't let you know.


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[Assistant] Mark Cuban's my commissioner, but he's not an actual commissioner. So I'm gonna go with this guy that just put a t-shirt on and I'm sitting staring at his small basement.


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[Assistant] Now, that kind of all disappeared quickly. After LeBron said that stuff, it kinda-


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[Assistant] Well, if you stand for nothing, you fall for anything AJ. Speaking of Mark Cuban said, if we can play with no fans, I'm certainly going to push for it. And I think the league will do it. I think we have a moral obligation to do it. So I assume Mark Cuban feels as if


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[Assistant] The moral obligation is we deserve to give our fa- the fans deserve us to give them a distraction during this thing. A lot of people watching this documentary I'd assume to NBA conversations at an all time high at the current moment learning about the history of it.


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[Assistant] You got a lot of basketball players dominating on social media right now all over the sports center. Instagram is NBA all over ESPN. Instagram is NBA all over everything is NBA and now it seems as if.


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[Assistant] Mark Cuban's on that committee to put sports back into rotation. He seems, whenever he says something, I assume there's some information coming alongside it. I assume that games without fans is a real possibility at this point so they can test everybody going into building.


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[Assistant] Uh, and if they can test every player, coach, athletic trainer and things like that, I would assume they're going to do a March Madness like thing and I'm here for it.


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[Assistant] Are the Pacers open up the gym? I need puzzle shots. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] I've already worked, that's where I've, that's where I perfected the past set, was at the Colts.


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[Assistant] And then it also got some work in like malls and airports around the country. My public pass set is undefeated by the way. I just want to let you know that. I wish I'd walk up to a guy like you in public and do it.


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[Assistant] Oh my. I used to do that. I used to walk like right up to people. As they were walking I would just pass that in front of them for like a half a block almost and nobody would even acknowledge my existence. I wish I did to a guy that actually knows something and hit me with like an ice pick spin move real quick and I'm like oh damn and I fall. That would be amazing. But that never happened. I'm undefeated.


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[Assistant] It was always a crowd pleaser. Speaking of crowd pleaser, Isaiah Thomas.


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[Assistant] That guy seems to be hated by everybody and Jalen Rose made a great point. The bad boys Detroit Pistons, they took down Larry Berg, Magic Johnson,


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[Assistant] And Michael Jordan, like the three most beloved characters potentially in basketball lore history.


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[Assistant] What if somebody just caught him one time? But that team played no games out there. Dennis Rodman was a savage. That was a team of savages. And, uh, Isaiah Thomas, I guess whenever they decided to walk off and not shake hands, let's go not shake their heads.


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[Assistant] Uh, Michael Jordan and the boys were not happy and for some reason, everybody assumes that's why Isaiah was left off the dream team because of that one decision. And he said this morning on getup that he's paid mightily for it because of that. That's something he always wished looking back he was still a part of.


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[Assistant] What's that show called? The five, the starting five, the starting... Rachel Nichols? Oh, the jump. The jump.


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[Assistant] That's on me. I watch the clips from that show all the time. The jump. He was talking on there about how


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[Assistant] Uh, if he cared about what the media said about him, he would've drove himself crazy. He doesn't care now or he didn't care then that they didn't handshake the Chicago Bulls after they topped them as becoming like the new


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[Assistant] Kings of the Eastern Conference. He seems like a savage. By the way, that's a guy, that's an ultimate guy I want on my team.


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[Assistant] And I hate to have him on the other team. Were there any guys like that that you played? A lot of people say incognito was like the ultimate guy you wish you had on your team. Hate him whenever he's not on your team. I think he was voted like dirtiest player, like maybe four or five years straight. Yeah. Richie incognito was, but he was beloved by his teammates. Was there anybody that you experienced like that?


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[Assistant] So was there weeks going into games where you knew you did not have to face somebody that was going to go through the whistle and was that a much bigger relief?


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[Assistant] Don't even fucking think about turning your back to the guard. That guy will make you eat it if you don't. We're talking baby ACL. We're talking definite concussion. Watch yourself. I bet you guys thrived and loved being labeled that guy in other people's films.


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[Assistant] They kind of changed the rules to make people go after the knees now. How did you feel about that change where they changed the strike zone? Uh, and then over the middle ball, you can no longer, if you hit shoulder or above or whatever, it's a 15 yarder, which was making guys go lower. And you heard a lot of wide receivers come out and they were like,


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[Assistant] To be 100% honest, I would rather the chance of getting hit in my head than getting my knees taken out in a high speed collision. Now granted, I don't think it's caused that many terrible situations.


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[Assistant] But I feel like that is something that they almost started pushing there for a little bit and then happy it's kind of died off.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the bone bruise is the hardest one because they can't do a surgery to fix it. It'll kind of heal itself. And like when they're like anywhere from a couple weeks to a year and a half.


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[Assistant] Cool, cool, cool, cool. You guys didn't warn a lot of Torado either, over there. Geez. They need an owner. I mean. Green Bay Packers, man. Huh.


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[Assistant] Everybody's just watching him the entire Zoom, right? Offense coordinator goes, Aaron, you got any questions? Yeah, what the fuck happened?


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[Assistant] Alright, I'll see you later. Just slams the thing shut. I mean, I, I don't know how this is gonna work. Cause if I'm Aaron, that's not just something I can just bury.


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[Assistant] Right? Like, I'm going in now, I'm staring at those people every single day. I'm like, oh, I hate you, and I hate you. Oh, this should be fun. Day two, I go in there.


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[Assistant] I fucking hate you even more now. I mean, how does he bury that? I guess he's gotta be much more professional than I could ever be.


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers gonna write a movie and make a character that's a goblin after you? I mean, it's just, it never, I don't know. This just feels like a very interesting thing.


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[Assistant] Somebody tweeted, and it was a great tweet, and I wish I could give them credit for it, but I apologize. They said that Guntukund and Loflor


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[Assistant] Watched the, uh, the first two episodes of The Last Dance and thought that Jerry Krause was the star of the show.


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[Assistant] I'm done, I'm done talking about it. I guess James Devlin has retired. Yeah, he just did. Fullback for the Patriots, right? Yep. He was a rugby player.


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[Assistant] Well, uh, needed, uh, part of the body if you're a fullback, because you're literally just running your face into people.


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[Assistant] That's the only reason why you're on the field is to run your face into people. You are a mobile offensive lineman hoping to help the person behind you run your face into another human every single time you're on the field. One of the toughest positions in all of sport and obviously James Devlin was hell of a football player for a long time.


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[Assistant] Tell the truth. I hope he doesn't watch. You know my friend AQ Shipley, he was playing fullback there one year.


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[Assistant] He played, uh, he was the king of the wedge. He was the middle of the wedge before they outruled the wedge. A.Q. Shipley was center playing wedge on kickoff return, by the way, because he was athletic enough. You'd see him running and you'd just have two people come flying in at him and he would have to just hit him. Then he started playing fullback for a year where all he would do is just run and dive into the thing.


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[Assistant] And I sent him a text, I was like, man, I just watched Concussion and, uh,


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[Assistant] I'm gonna keep a close eye on you for about the rest of your life. I just wanna let you know, those positions are unforgiven. As has been a linebacker, I mean, I shouldn't, I mean, you obviously experienced that, but that jawline of yours just kept your brain safe somehow.


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[Assistant] The, uhm, the, uh, do you do that sh- that thing? There's a thing I almost got influenced into buying it.


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[Assistant] That was literally the first thing they said. And I was like, I'm actually intrigued by that. And, uh, I thought about buying it. I didn't get influenced yet. I'm almost an influencer. But I was like, they should be paying AJ Hawk to bite into that thing.


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[Assistant] I don't know, if they were to go in the shark tank and pitch that thing, I would assume they would all tell them that they should direct their focus towards athletes and such, not the general public. I think they're currently trying to pitch to everybody like, hey, get a good strong jaw.


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[Assistant] And then all of a sudden you try to swallow it, and then you almost puke, and then now your jaw hurts, and you feel like you're dying. I mean, those things can really, those, they can really


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[Assistant] No, I'm actually not. I guess Philadelphia's not happy about it. But if you think Jalen Hurts isn't actually a good player,


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[Assistant] Carson is a guy who gets injured, right? I mean, that's no offense to Carson. He's young and he's been injured. So he is a guy that you could say, Aaron Rodgers has not been a guy that's been injured. He's only missed time, what, two times in his entire career, 2017 and 2012 or something.


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[Assistant] He's played for a long time. People are like, well, he's going to get injured. He's hurt. That's why you get a quarterback like Jordan love. So if he goes down, it's like, well, he hasn't shown trends of doing that. I think Carson has a little bit. Carson was putting that team on his back last year, but if you think there's a chance it's going to go down or maybe put a package in for Jalen.


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[Assistant] I think if he, if Jalen Hurts was drafted instead of Jordan Love to the Packers, I think people would be a little bit more understanding. Nobody has a fucking clue who this guy is, Jordan Love. I mean, as you say, it's a wild time. Did you hate it or love the Jalen Hurts move?


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[Assistant] He was good last year, man. Carson Wentz was good last year. He's a stud.


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[Assistant] Elaine Johnson talks very highly of, I don't know what you're going to do with Jalen, unless you're thinking maybe a Taysom Hill-like package, which there's only one Taysom Hill.


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[Assistant] Good news. That gives you an excuse to get the hell out of round one then. Hey, I don't know if this doesn't mean you trade up in front of the, in front of the 40 minutes that you could find a trade. This means you probably trade out of it pal. And they're like, no, no, no.


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[Assistant] I don't know how they're gonna spin the narrative. I assume they'll give it a go as best as they possibly can.


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[Assistant] But I don't, I don't fully understand how you spin this narrative. And Hal, if you're Aaron Rodgers, are you not just incredibly pissed off? I don't know. I don't know how you, I don't know how you're not pissed. I don't know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know. Anytime I feel sick or some, like, uh, my lady feels sick, I lock myself away.


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[Assistant] No, I do not. It's whenever I get like, I don't ever, I don't really get sick. Does that make sense? Like I don't get sick sick, but if I get it, I'm like, I'm not good at it. Like I'm not good. I'm not laying on, you know, I'm like, I am very bad at it. I don't want this again. I don't want somebody else to get it that could potentially give it, but that's when there's like a 24 hour thing happening or whatever.


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[Assistant] This 14 day thing locking yourself in a room would be pretty wild.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I get it. I understand the naming thing. I don't know why. Okay. Roger Goodell did not come up with that.


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[Assistant] If he did, even better for the week. I would not be surprised if he did come up with that this weekend, by the way. That's how cool Roger Goodell was this past weekend. Go on.


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[Assistant] I mean, when you see that Manfred guy, you just can't help but go, you know what? Could be much worse, I guess. Could have peace of mind.


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[Assistant] Well, they buried him because it was good for the game, by the way, to get him the hell out of there. But remember the whole Astros thing happened and then quarantine came in and you know, by the way, fans were booing. Fans are booing at spring training games. They were pulling them out of the stands and then quarantine happened. But was this the Astros?


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[Assistant] It's just like whenever I tried to go dump the water at the superintendent's thing, I didn't want to take the test.


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[Assistant] That's a good play by them if they just get to quarantine to worldwide pandemic, kind of just eliminate the entire season if you don't have to.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Kim Jong Un was reportedly dead after a botched heart surgery this weekend. People were saying he's back alive. Some saying he's dead, some saying he's back alive. Who knows who you can trust. But that guy...


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[Assistant] Now granted, this guy, Kim Jong Un once made somebody eat a missile from an aircraft carrier or something like that to die. You know what I mean? He once fed one of his brothers or uncles to a pack of canines, okay? And his sister though, a little bit more methodical, she has the


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[Assistant] In my eyes, this is not an accurate assessment, this is just an opinion here, so I don't want Nate Segrist to, I don't want to have to ever talk to her, but I don't want to get sued.


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[Assistant] But I think Nancy Grace forced that thing to trial because of how big it was getting, because of how big Nancy Grace's show was.


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[Assistant] And I just don't think the state was ready to take it to court yet, and Casey Anthony found some holes in there with her incredible defense.


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[Assistant] And he was gonna represent him on an appeal for his first, uh, murder and was probably gonna get him off. Jose Baez there, that guy, he can get you off video killing somebody somehow.


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[Assistant] Then after the Casey Anthony thing, I was like, can't do it. Too much pressure. Nancy put too much pressure on the state attorney. We just let a baby killer walk out there. A lot of baby killer.


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[Assistant] I think that's like the guy Jerry Sandusky works for the Ravens with the G Jerry Sandusky.


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[Assistant] He's got to. I mean, he has. By the way, I think he was famous long before the other Jerry Sandusky was in there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like all the aid-offs that kinda went down. You know, Hitler ruined that name. Gotta change your name. Gotta change your name. Uh, anything else you wanna talk about, AJ?


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[Assistant] Cliff Kingsbury's flying women in, I think.


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[Assistant] From all parts of the world, I think we should really have a maybe, uhm,


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[Assistant] We should be checking that part of Arizona for potential coronavirus from how many people that are going to be traveling in. I think people, I don't know if Cliff Kingsbury is going to be flying in, but I think there's going to be some people flocking to that house if they can. He looked like he was living in a drug lord's house, man. That house was beautiful.


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[Assistant] There's another guy that might have won the draft. Cliff Kingsbury, Jerry Jones, Roger Goodell won the draft. That's who I think.


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[Assistant] His house might be a vacation, but Bill Belichick's never on vacation. He's always watching film.


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[Assistant] Well, I didn't have to travel. I like the players with their families, but I know that I might be different.


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[Assistant] The green room, I just never understood why anybody did. Now granted, AJ did it and had a lot of success and it was a fun night, but I feel... What, dude?


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[Assistant] I'm so sorry. You know, granted AJ didn't go because AJ has a brain, but like when I was at my house and I got drafted, my dad and I, I think we were both crying, hugging each other. Like that's a very intimate moment. And I think in the house is awesome. Now granted.


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[Assistant] Them giving us glimpses inside the house comes with its own set of problems. I mean, obviously the girlfriends of the world did not obviously outright win the weekend and family members were insane and stuff like that, but I felt like that was just so much better. Maybe you do the top 10 draft picks come across the stage or something like that. I would assume that they're going to have a full sit down, write down how do we take some of this stuff moving forward to cut costs for us, by the way.


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[Assistant] Let's not forget though that Nashville was pretty electric last year.


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[Assistant] So it's like, I, I, I feel like they're gonna definitely, they should still keep that, some aspect of that.


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[Assistant] 16 minutes after the hour. I think the show's over. AJ, a lot of smoke you got over there, pal. You were coughing earlier. Let's pipe it down, baby, huh?


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[Assistant] Average 8.8 or something like that throughout, I mean that is good for them.


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[Assistant] It's much bigger than the, uh, the last dance documentary. That is just, it's such a good depiction of, there's no sports on, we're gonna release this documentary, it has six point something million viewers, everybody's like, this is huge, this is the biggest ever, and then the draft comes around and is like, excuse me.


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[Assistant] It was carnage in the streets. I mean, Schefter did, I think Schefter, yeaah. I'm assuming when Schefter said that, by the way, as soon as it left his mouth, he was like, oh, according to my sources, I wish I could get that one back.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think you can do... I think you can do whatever you want. To a point.


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[Assistant] I would assume. Be who you can afford to be. Adam Schefter? That's one of their, what, top four people right now.


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[Assistant] Shefty's probably top 5 over there. Cause football wins by the way. Yes, a woge bomb is huge.


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[Assistant] But if we tell any, the documentary about Michael Jordan, the greatest player of all time that people have never seen before that is swearing has six some million or whatever. And then the draft though averages eight point something. I think football is going to win there. And Schefter is the insider for football. It's just NFL.


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[Assistant] And if I was king, it's America. That's why McAfee and Hawk Sports Talk is your go-to Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday. This has been Monday, April 27th, McAfee and Hawk Sports Talk.


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[Assistant] That's interesting because I feel like I came home to one the other day and it was good for business because I saw like 25 people on the screen.


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[Assistant] Here's one paragraph. Did you guys have that paragraph? Here's one paragraph that I was really intrigued by.


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[Assistant] He wrote obviously in Player Tribune, which is owned by Derek Jeter, who


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[Assistant] He said, for me, playing football isn't going to last another 10 years. In the time left, the question is, how can I keep maximizing what I do, put everything I can into it, make it the best I possibly can?


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[Assistant] Physically, I'm as capable of doing my job as I've ever been. Now I want to see what more I can do. I want to see how great I can be. I want to hear other people say, go man.


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[Assistant] And why he wanted to get out and experience something different. By the way, a lot of success was had the patriot way.


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[Assistant] Taking a shot. That is one of them. And then in his original one.


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[Assistant] Potentially building a monster there. Joe Burrow, LSU quarterback. Despite...


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[Assistant] The Miami Dolphins trying to give away a Kings Ransom to get to number one.


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[Assistant] Or anybody else, Cincinnati Bengals walked in, won the 6'3 and a half, 221 pound Heisman winner and national champion, Joe Burrow, A.J. Hawk.


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[Assistant] The Cincinnati Bengals scouting room or whatever is sold on Joe Burrow being the guy. Now granted, that might be complete BS that somebody just tweeted out for clout, but that was a tweet that was sent. And then whenever you hear teams trying to give away three first rounders or next year's first rounders trying to get the guy, I wonder if the Bengals were like, we should not pass on a guy that everybody wants like this.


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[Assistant] Somebody's trying to sabotage our show. It's probably Trey Wingo to be honest with you.


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[Assistant] He just dropped it in an absolute bucket. He took a shot to the ribs too that I don't think has ever been addressed. Did he break a rib in that game? Did anybody talk about that? Cause he went in at half struggling and then he came out. Look at this guy right down the gullet.


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[Assistant] Pittsburgh Steeler fans, obviously understanding that, uh, that new quarterback has come to town. So now we got Baker Mayfield, Joe Burrow.


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[Assistant] Ben Roethlisberger off of Tommy John and Lamar Jackson off of MVP season. AFC North is going to be fun to watch. Is this going to turn around to Bengals? Is this one pick potentially a full turnaround for a franchise you think?


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[Assistant] A guy named Dan, uh, in the comments section asked, with Joe Borgo in the Cincinnati and being a godsend in Ohio, are you thinking about coming out of retirement to play for the Bengals?


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[Assistant] Torn rib cartilage. That came out. Yes. Hasn't been talked about, right? Hasn't been talked about. The kids got grit. He's a Rust Belt guy. Hell of a player comparison. They're comparing him to Jared Goff. That's not good news for the Bengals. This guy's going to sign a contract and ruin the team.


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[Assistant] It's already come out, I guess, earlier today that they are taking Chase Young. Now, unless there's some trade talk that's happening, I'm not 100% sure.


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[Assistant] I understand Cam originally, there's stuff floating out there that he's gonna, he would sit out a season or should he sit out a season and all of this stuff. Of course, the right situation he would go to. He wants to be a starter. Cool. We already knew this, I feel like.


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[Assistant] I was speaking to an anonymous scout yesterday and I was asking just about things going on around the league.


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[Assistant] He's in the NFC, he's been on, he's been with a couple different teams. He's probably been in 15, 20 years now.


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[Assistant] He thinks for sure obviously Cam and coming off his foot and everything. People want to see that he's healthy so that's a big reason why he's not signed right now. I was like, where's he gonna go man? Because in my eyes I said, if he wants to start...


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[Assistant] The one place he should go that has the best chance of starting is New England. Now I don't know if New England wants him, if he can go in there and beat out Stidham and Hoyer, that's the job, but he's not gonna go sit behind, he's not gonna have like, can you see Cam doing a Jameis Winston thing?


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[Assistant] My scout, my anonymous scout who I told you, he said, what about this? He said, what if you, what if Pittsburgh brought Cam in?


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[Assistant] Gives him like a two year deal. First year is worth like five mil. Second year can be up to like 20 mil. If he becomes the starter, for some reason Ben retires, Ben's not healthy, he doesn't have it anymore, Tommy John doesn't take. If Cam can step into the role his second year, then he'll get a big payday, 20 mil, revamp his career, parlay that into a long-term extension, possibly with a steal.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, but what is, if you're running a team, what is your job, like, what's your responsibility? If you're the GM, you're the owner, are you there to...


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[Assistant] They should love Ben in Pittsburgh. They should absolutely love Ben and what he has done there. I don't take it, like if you brought Cam in, I understand how it might be weird.


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[Assistant] But yea, I mean, it is always weird, I guess, when there's a high profile backup. It's like, okay, what if he goes three and out his first series of the season? They don't, people are calling for Cam already. That's why I don't like having like the, the back and forth between who's gonna be the starter, who should be, like Chicago. If for some reason Chicago starts Mitch Trubisky, he goes three and out, they're gonna be booing the first series.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, there's, I, I can, we can have some fun. I mean, are the Rams broke? Like at this point, building this stadium, like it's same tronking, running out of like Walmart money, but they don't have any more money. Look, I, I will say this about the Rams. It's interesting to me.


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[Assistant] Did you just say that the Rams, hold on Charles, did you just say that the Rams are broke? I'm not saying they're broke, but I will say this.


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[Assistant] They saved money not sending their scouts to the combine, right? They saved money not sending their scouts to all-star games in preparation for the draft.


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[Assistant] They seem to be trying to reduce cost as much as possible. I think every NFL franchise is doing that now, uhm, in the age of coronavirus, but they were doing it well before this was ever a problem. Plus they have, remember, SoFi Stadium.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think the Chargers, or excuse me, I think the Rams are pinching some pennies, but I also, there is one other thing in play with Clay Matthews, I will say this, I don't think, I think the Rams were upset with


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[Assistant] The production of Clay last season in, you know, relative to when he came back from injury last year. I think they felt like, they looked at the film and they were pretty upset with what they saw and felt like some of their struggles and some of the games that they lost, some guys didn't show up and I think Clay was in that and I would


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[Assistant] I would think that there is an element sometimes of spite where you just don't pay somebody as quickly as you can. You kind of force them to come back, you know, come after. He's going to get his money. There's no doubt about that, but I think the Rams might be a little bit of spite involved.


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[Assistant] Who negotiated for that extra eight bucks? I want to know about, uh, fifth year team option. It seems like, uh, these deals are getting done much quicker now because of the slottiness.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, cause whenever Derrick Brown signed this weekend for 24 million dollars, it was a big deal that was fully guaranteed, like it was added in the thing, fully guaranteed. 24 million dollar deal, maybe two of us is fully guaranteed as well. 30 million dollars, not a bad piece of cheddar for the work you did at Alabama too well.


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[Assistant] I would obviously take a little bit less money if it was fully guaranteed. I mean, that's smart business move. Uh, I would, I would keep it moving with that. This one, yup.


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[Assistant] Okay, so there we go, so he got 19 million guaranteed, 30 million dollars over its total, uh, good for Tua making that cake, making that chat up, bought his mom a new car, and he signed a deal with Adidas.


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[Assistant] Has become a business. Tua is a quarterback in Miami and I think good things are going to happen for old Tua after he gets past a couple freak injuries that happen in Miami.


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[Assistant] Joe will have 12 weeks under his belt. Hopefully this will be past the Ryan Fitzpatrick to a Tonga Valoa handoff. That app is going to inevitably happen. Put him in there week 13.


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[Assistant] I think he has the right mindset to go down to Miami. I've talked to a couple players that have played Miami. It's not easy. There's a lot of options in Miami. It's very easy to get distracted when you're a Miami Dolphin. It feels like Tua is mature enough for the thing. It feels like he's got a big enough chip on his shoulder with all the shit that was said about him. I feel like Tua is going to be a good player down here in Miami.


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[Assistant] That happens every time I'm in Vegas. Just like something along those lines.


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[Assistant] I've been to the hospital that they were at numerous times. I've found my friends in places. I mean, it's just, it's not, it's just everything. It's just, I can't. I just can't do it. I have a self ban on Vegas.


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[Assistant] I always think about that. And then what if they're dropped into New York City? New York City is nothing like Indianapolis, Indiana or Compass, Ohio. Like, and I feel that way about myself. Like I've been to France before. I know what the French people were like. Well, I've been to Paris. It's like, have I?


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[Assistant] By the way, great time. I mean, it is a great, it's too much. It's too much of a good time. It's one of, you just have to kind of turn yourself on. Like, listen, I can't go there. It's too much of a good time. It is, oh my god, I'm starting to think about it now. The party pit. Let's get out of the party pit.


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[Assistant] So Rappaport said he gets a signing bonus of 19.6 million and that's all guaranteed. And then this article here says, this is from Yahoo, all first round picks received full guaranteed signing bonuses. First round contracts also include a fifth year option meaning the teams can add another year to the term at a higher salary.


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[Assistant] Well, did the teams know that they were like, Hey, we're down right now. The replay is down. You can't challenge anything.


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[Assistant] When peo- a lot of times people think everything's a conspiracy. Like, oh, there's all these people involved to try to-


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[Assistant] Try to screw somebody over, it's conspiracy. A lot of times, no, it's something like this. A microwave shut the system down and it's just people like ignorance from one person or two people or someone messed something up. Like a lot of times people point to conspiracies for certain things when it's just human error.


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[Assistant] Well it's gonna ha- the rules gonna change but it's gonna be the NFL's waiting to make it look like it's their idea and they didn't steal this from the XFL. Like they didn't want people saying, oh you're doing the XFL type replay deal, right? Like no, this is the NFL replay. Ours is much different. Then they're gonna describe it and they're gonna describe the exact same thing the XFL did.


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[Assistant] Have you ever been in the stadium and watched the, the networks set up the sky cam? That is the...


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[Assistant] The gigantic wires they have to put from the top of the stadium, all the corners, it's unbelievable man.


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[Assistant] And they don't take like the, the, the wind or anything into consideration?


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[Assistant] Are they going off that or are they going off what? Cause they always say, you know, they throw it down to the sideline report like, Oh, I saw Justin Tucker in warmups. He made a 58 and a 62 yarder going this way. And the other way he made a 57 yarder. Like they don't go off of that.


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[Assistant] I was gonna say that because I didn't remember it. But the, the, the people calling the game...


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[Assistant] Have to like, relate that somehow, like I don't know. If you say, hey 4.6 hang, I don't know if that's good. Do you think any casual fan knows?


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[Assistant] It made me think of a story. I hunted a little bit in high school with one of my teachers and they have these like pheasant farms that are like high fence operations where you go out and they...


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[Assistant] They populate the area with, with the birds and everything and you can go shoot it and you go shoot them and then say, okay, I got eight pheasants. You can take it back.


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[Assistant] And you pay per each bird. And that you can clean them and eat them and all that stuff. And he was telling me a story that somebody told him, Pete Rose is at one of these pheasant farms. And this is all allegedly, I don't know if it's really true. And Pete went and shot like 15 pheasant. And then he goes to the edge. He goes to the, like the edge of the property, the fence.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess you can't top that. You're not gonna force another heart attack on another deer, so you might as well just end it.


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[Assistant] Tim McAfee. You think Tim McAfee appreciates you calling it his hunting costume?


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[Assistant] Is he always, does he always carry a gun?


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[Assistant] I think you started a very profitable, like motivational speaking career because of it.


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[Assistant] Is uh, John Groot a cartoon character all the time or just when the camera's on?


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[Assistant] Jordan, we talk a lot on this show about how we're Rust Belt kind of guys. We're from the Rust Belt area. Uhm, so like, do you think AJ or us, we could survive on a farm, or is that just a different kind of guy?


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[Assistant] It's all relative, like what is a big deal to us, it may not be a big deal to him.


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[Assistant] Does he want to go to Cleveland? I don't know. It would be a nice situation to have Myles Garrett on the other side. If you're a clown, you're like, hey, this can only help me as an individual player having a guy like Garrett on the other side and the roster does look good. I just, I would imagine that the numbers aren't where he thought they should be.


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[Assistant] I don't know how tall they are, maybe four foot five. I'm not a Harrison Shore and I don't really care, but I saw a guy do like seven flips on a trampoline yesterday. He got, he got double bounce like you'd do with your kids.


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[Assistant] And he did like seven flips and then he crashes into a crash pad right with his face. It's just, it's unbelievable. They're like ninjas. They really are. They're little ninjas out there that we have just roaming amongst us. And we have no idea. Look like a little piss aunt nerd. And then they take their shirt off. They have a 40 pack and then they'll go right off your kitchen with their hands and do a front flip right in front of you. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable stuff.


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[Assistant] Jim Conn. What's it called? Jim Conn. They used to have the springboard floor. I always wanted to go. My parents would overtake me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it's like a, it's an inflated one and it's a long one and I think you just run down it and it's like a trampoline basically that you just. What? It's awesome. It is. I try to get one for the office. Believe me. Believe you me. I try to get one for the office. He fulfilled said, no, I can't do a power.


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[Assistant] Is that why he's doing this? Potentially. That thing right there.


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[Assistant] Give another shot at that thing. That, that, that thing is like a long runner and it's just,


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[Assistant] It's awesome. I saw somebody put it as a slip and slide the other day. I was like, brilliant idea. Here's running, flipping, slipping, dipping, diving.


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[Assistant] Pretty pricey. For Phil to go, no chance. That normally means that he thinks it's a bit...


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[Assistant] Astronomically priced. We've been trying to pick up stuff like that for the office. Probably good that we don't got it.


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[Assistant] I don't know, maybe that would work for your office at Olympics. You guys still doing that? Nah, I mean...


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[Assistant] Just wasn't, you had to weigh pros and cons here on the internet. You know, like, hey, what are the pros? Okay, it's fine. It's something for us to do. What are the cons? Well, it's not getting a lot of views.


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[Assistant] That's me. Cause I see these little super humans doing this off the ground. I'm like, well, I'm obviously never going to be able to do it off the grass, but you give me this air track thing. I'm going to be able to potentially keep up with these guys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's awesome. It's something that I've been wanting here for a couple months now, to be honest. Do the long one though.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's two sizes. There's like a short little one that I think you're just supposed to do one flip on and then there's, there's an extendo clip that you can really get after it on Amazon because you can do the run.


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[Assistant] Whoa, four slips. How much is the long one? Are you talking to me? Yeah. Well, let me do some research here.


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[Assistant] It shouldn't be that much research. It should literally be right there in front of you.


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[Assistant] A good, a good deal because if 10 feet's 500, you know.


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[Assistant] Sure feels like they're trying to rip people off of their track, but they got a good product.


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[Assistant] That's the deal. So we need two 20 footers there. That's the way you operate this thing.


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[Assistant] Hello and welcome to Friday, May 22nd edition of McAfee and Hawk Sports Talk. I am Pat McAfee. To my left, your right, in a closet, AJ Hawk. Woo! What's up AJ?


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[Assistant] Yeah, where are those from? Well, they're from Shady Rays, and let me tell you about them, okay? Shady Rays is a company, it's not a big corporate sellout stooge company.


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[Assistant] It's a small business that's creating facial decoration to protect your eyes from the sun and the blue rays that emit from said phone and said computer that we're staring at all damn day.


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[Assistant] Shady Rays has an entire line, uh, collection, if you will, of great looking cool glasses to block from the blue and from the sun. Yes.


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[Assistant] AJ doesn't have his on because they were shipped to Columbus, Ohio, I assume.


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[Assistant] Anyway, even with that strong of a warranty, they still manage to make quality that I can tell you holding in my hand. Right here.


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[Assistant] Seems just as good as any expensive pair that I've ever worn. That's true, they feel good, they got, they, they're built well, and they got a great warranty, and that's a Shady Ray's different. And right now,


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[Assistant] You want sunglasses? You want some blue shade glasses? It doesn't matter, just use code McAfee25.


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[Assistant] Legit source, who's obviously an anonymous source.


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[Assistant] Somebody tweeted me this and I hadn't thought about it. It was when I was dripping in sweat naked in my office because Foxy and I got into a battle in this new game that we think is potentially going to take over tailgating and all that stuff. Got shipped to the office. Very good game. Can't talk about it because we think they have to change some rules before it gets going. We're like a sample, but dripping in sweat. I was just dripping in sweat.


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[Assistant] We have not been calling him a stooge. We just said that we think he was fed the wrong information. When I was naked reading through my phone, there was a move that Kim and Kanye did that I thought was awesome. Okay. They were trying to sniff out a rat in their inner circle whenever they were pregnant.


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[Assistant] So they leaked fake names to each individual friend, and then they wrote them down, and then whichever name got leaked to the tabloids are like, bingo, get them out of our group, okay? Kim Jong Un just did it with his fucking death in, uh, North Korea, where he lied to give some people some information, makes out, boom, that person's probably eating a legit


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[Assistant] We don't promote that, but we're just saying what's potentially happening. What if the Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones, thought that they had a, uh,


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[Assistant] We got, uh, Dak Presko for 227 million dollars. So whatever number came out there, he knew who said it. Chris Sims, his friends, was said person that got the 175 million dollar contract. He leaks it. That person's probably getting fired. Let's check the wire to see who gets fired from the Cowboys in the next week or so.


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[Assistant] But I think Chris Sims was lied to. I don't think this is his fault. But boy, when you're talking cowboys, Dak Prescott, and 175 million dollars whenever there's 38 million people filing for unemployment, this is gonna go. And that is exactly what happened yesterday.


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[Assistant] Chris Sims gets a text message by the way from his source or whatever.


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[Assistant] Those other insiders are not happy that their sources, who they've earned probably through like decades of work here, didn't give them the information. Rappaport heard the Chris Sims report and was like, is that right? Is that?


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[Assistant] Right. So he's probably good friends with maybe Dak's agent. He might be good friends with somebody high up in the Cowboys. Sends a text and he puts out a tweet. By the way, I talked to both Cowboys and Dak.


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[Assistant] The report that Chris Sims, even added Chris Sims, at Chris Sims reported completely false. And that is something that Chris Sims is probably so pumped about, and now it's coming out that it wasn't true. Who knows if Dak and the Cowboys are anywhere near close a deal. But I do know that if Dak is to be a quarterback,


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[Assistant] For the Dallas Cowboys, a wide receiver that he wishes he could throw a ball to is a Caucasian fella that runs like a gazelle. Ladies and gentlemen, Ty Schmitz's cousin or nephew was named after this man, former wide receiver, Jordy Nelson.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jordy, why did you pick the Hawk family, uh, to come help out? Is his wife just the greatest interior designer of all time? Is that how this goes?


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[Assistant] Congratulations on a new house out there in Kansas. Uh, there's a lot of people from Kansas tweeting that you're coming on the show today. You don't normally do interviews. I don't think I see a lot of Jordy Nelson, which I don't love by the way. I don't, I wish I saw more of you. I, the question I want to ask you before AJ Hawk probably has some questions over there and the boys. I think the boys are loaded with questions for Jordy Nelson.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that story about his nephew being named after you is 100% true, by the way. The whole Schmidt family has some questions. I want to know what it was like for you when you show up at new teams in new locker rooms.


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[Assistant] And we've all been in professional locker rooms when a white dude has jets. It is not a normal thing, but Jordy, you were this guy who you're on a field.


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[Assistant] Burnin' pass, folks. Deceptive speed means white dude who can run fast. What were the conversations? What were the conversations like whenever you got to a new team? Maybe it was the Raiders or maybe it was a new person at the Packers. Was there always an element of surprise? And have you always just been an incredibly fast dude, like even in high school?


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[Assistant] So you're like in, you're in the farm world right now as we speak. Was that always going to be like, hey, whatever happens with this football thing at the end of the day, we're going to come back home or we're going to farm. Are you from a family of farmers? Is that how it's been?


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[Assistant] In a non-farm world. By the way, maybe grow up on a farm, run a 4-2 if you need to. Probably. That's probably what happens. You start tackling calves, run 4-2, that Caucasian's a little bit different. This guy's been running with wild animals his entire life. You got a question, Ty?


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[Assistant] The town is a little bit different than the village, but the, the, uh, uh, do you text with Aaron Rodgers still? It's a one way text you send. He doesn't answer.


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[Assistant] I'm currently in the middle of that right now. We're here. We are in a three day stare down on text messages. I just asked him how you doing pal and I have not got an answer for 72 hours at this point. I'm not sure how long I'm supposed to wait before either deleting the messaging, deleting his number or just kind of act like it's a normal thing.


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[Assistant] Did you sign back with the Packers and retire as a Packer? Did you do that?


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[Assistant] Wasn't there a thought that you were gonna come back to the Packers after you left the, was there ever, and then I think there was a conversation, I don't know if you were having it, probably not, but other people were having it like,


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[Assistant] That's what he said about Khalil Mack. After he signed a hundred million dollar deal. Very interesting. But, uhm,


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[Assistant] The thought, why did you end up retiring? Were you just done with it? Was it injuries? What was it at the end of the, did you think you didn't have it anymore?


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[Assistant] Then you go and be a part of the Gruden's offense. Was it hard to pick up Gruden's offense because they say that thing's insane. There's another thing from Chris Sims. They talk about how that offense is insane to recap, like the noun of words and everything like that. Was it similar to what you had in Green Bay or is there very obvious differences in the verbiage and everything like that between the two?


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[Assistant] Derek Carr gets a lot of heat. Gets a lot of heat. Is he, is it warranted or not?


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[Assistant] Aaron said all the right things in his press conference. Do you think they're trying to run him out of time?


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[Assistant] I guess that is a smart move for the general manager to think about the future. You're that, you're a game away from the Super Bowl. That's not normal. Like, it's not normal to get to the NFC Championship. That's not something that happens all the time.


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[Assistant] Hey, K-State, who'd they beat last? Oklahoma? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Are you the most notable Kansas State human of all time? I think you probably are, right?


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[Assistant] Good guy, right? Yeah, everybody says he's a good guy. He's where he recruited you, I assume.


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[Assistant] Were you recruited by anybody else or were you just this farm kid from Kansas that nobody else could really find?


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[Assistant] Hey AJ, we didn't know you were a cowboy too. You're a Rust Belt kind of guy. Didn't know you were getting in the fucking mud out there with the cows and the pigs. Wow.


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[Assistant] You gotta do, you gotta punish the horse like, like in football, like run sprints. Like listen, you wanna be an ass? Go ahead and we're gonna hit the circles, pal. Go ahead and get that energy out of you. Is that, that is like every, is that an everyday thing in the life of Jordy Nelson at this point?


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[Assistant] I think I wanna ride a bull at some point. I don't know about the horse thing and the calf thing, but I think I do wanna strap myself on top of a bull and see how it goes.


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[Assistant] I'm more scared of horses I think than bulls, to be honest. We had a girl in our school riding a horse, somebody drove by, hit a horn.


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[Assistant] Horse says, yeah, whatever it does, she ends up getting paralyzed. It was like whenever we were children. So my first story about a horse, somebody hopping on the back of a horse from where we're from, not normal, somebody got paralyzed. I'm like, well, never hopping on the back of that son of a bitch. I'll tell you that never going to do that. But the bull, I feel like is completely okay.


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[Assistant] Now I've heard from my farm sources that we're potentially in a boom where we have too much, too much product. There's too many farms, too much meat, too much this, which means in a couple years we're probably going to see where people fall out because businesses fall out in a couple years we're going to be short on stuff. Am I right in thinking that?


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[Assistant] Hey, let's keep eating food from America, AJ. AJ, I know you've been eating food from other places. Let's keep our food domestic, pal. You hear me?


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[Assistant] No, no, somebody showed it in Northern America, New York, I think, or Ohio. But the problem is we're having a bit of a delay.


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[Assistant] There he is, you're back. Hey, did any corners ever try to, uh,


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[Assistant] Like what corner was the most, I wouldn't say chirpy, but was there any corners that were trying to get you a little bit?


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[Assistant] What was the, uh, what was the corner that you were surprised that gave you problems?


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[Assistant] That back shoulder throw, which everybody does now, I feel like you guys didn't create it, but I think you guys took advantage of it the most there. It really started rolling out whenever they were hitting. I mean, it was awesome. It changed the game completely. Was that something that you guys knew you were going to do or doing in practice? What was the concept, the idea there?


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[Assistant] That changed the game there. Those things were beautiful too. Not every quarterback can do it.


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[Assistant] How many against the lions you think?


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[Assistant] Biggest lion's van on earth is in this room right here. Nobody understands what he's doing. Yeah, you're a nightmare, Geordie.


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[Assistant] That's beautiful. Hey Jordy, I hope to be on your farm someday, pal.


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[Assistant] I was about to ask, you got 12 kids out there. They're probably using a coronavirus, uh, victim where within 7,000 miles of where you're at right now, I'd assume.


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[Assistant] Well, stay safe because you know, week eight, week nine, you know, the Packers need a weapon. Playoff push. Playoff push. The farm boys out there tackling calves and racing horses still. Let's get them back into green and yellow.


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[Assistant] What about, uh, Chris Gaines? You ever heard of Chris Gaines?


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[Assistant] He's gonna, he's gonna Google Chris Gaines right now and it's gonna be tough for him.


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[Assistant] I have a friend, one of my roommates in college is currently on a farm in West Virginia, and he's got, I don't know how many.


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[Assistant] So much tougher than I am, just so much tougher than 6 a.m. Those cows need some water or something. He's out there. Yeah. I mean, it's just the farm life is not one that I think I could keep up with. And that makes sense by the way that Jordy is a farmer. I mean, that just, that makes a hundred percent. I did not know that and I feel dumb for not, but what a football player that dude was.


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[Assistant] That wasn't me. Okay. But my house is currently a golden corral for the raccoons and such. There's captain crunch berries. There was cinnamon cookies. There was corn. There was Ritz crackers. There was a peanut butter sandwich. There was grapes. All this better than I ate better than I ate yesterday.


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[Assistant] They were eating better than I was. And his same person was putting both meals together, by the way, my fiance.


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[Assistant] These raccoons are living a hell of a life. The chipmunks though have been sneaking in. These chipmunks have found it. These sons of bitches get their, their cheeks out this big and then they disappear for like 45 seconds and they come back and they're like this and then they go back in. They're just like Sam scared them off. Excuse me. You're ruining the raccoon. Stealing the food here. You're hoarding. Yeah. So it's.


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[Assistant] No, just for the raccoons, but all the other animals don't get the memo at the front. There's no like, there's no bouncer at the front door. These fuck. We had birds in there. Yeah, there it is right there. Look at that thing. It's a party. It's a party. It's a party. Hey.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're kind of getting a little stuck up at this point to be honest. The raccoon, they have like thumbs up. It feels like they have like a full working mitts because the one raccoon, the mom, the first night she just ate whatever was out there.


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[Assistant] You know, like whatever was out there, like, oh, we got food. Okay. Now she'll pick through, she'll pick through stuff and she'll move stuff out of the way. They'll have like little, there'll be like little, um,


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[Assistant] It is actually kinda neat. I'ma be honest. It has been kinda neat. Now granted,


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[Assistant] Cause our house is turning. We got foxes with babies. She was yelling at them the other night. The vox and her were talking to each other the other night.


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[Assistant] The fox, I'm worried about the fox with the raccoons by the way.


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[Assistant] So he's flying around like a toddler in a sky, just a terrorist toddler in the sky. And the best part, they all live in your house.


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[Assistant] I've been doing a lot of research. Raccoons are pets in places. You cannot have a raccoon as a pet in Indiana though. Although it feels as if Sam is potentially attempting to without like getting around the guidelines. But there's a lot of accounts on the internet that raccoons are just like little dogs almost.


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[Assistant] They did, yep. This morning there was, uh, some trash out in the front yard and it was rummaged through completely, just a complete


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[Assistant] Catastrophe disaster all over the little stoop and it's like, I thought these sons of bitches were living good. Why are they still trash pandas? They're eating a golden corral every single night on a back porch. And I just, I don't know how this is going to end, but I've enjoyed it a little bit, but boy.


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[Assistant] I don't think they like anything. They don't like zoos because zoos are holding them in captivity, but then zoos come on, they're like, yeah, but we're extending all their lives and keeping species on earth.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And PETA just, they're just here to fight. PETA's here to fight, which I kind of respect, by the way. I kind of respect that they're just in operation at his... Until they get smack in the mouth.


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[Assistant] If you sign up to take on the big tall white guy, just know that he will fucking blow right by you if he has to. He has a gear that not a lot of the Caucasoids have. Just remember that if you got it going on, dude.


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[Assistant] I don't think that gets talked about enough because anytime I start mentioning like the white did this or something like that, like in the locker room.


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[Assistant] If a white guy wins in a race or anything like that, it is a big deal. It is a very big deal. The rest of the world can act as if it isn't a big deal, but anybody who's actually been in a locker room,


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[Assistant] That is a conversation that is happening for at least a week after said things happened. And I bet you Jordy was just a terrorist to that defensive back line. God damn, we got the one guy.


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[Assistant] The one guy that can just blow by all of us every single day on film. Now granted, guys get it on Sundays, they get it once a year, maybe twice a year they're in a division. We get a chance to get exposed on film by the fastest white of all time in Jordy Nelson. He was so fast. He was just such a deep ball threat out there. It was awesome.


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[Assistant] I had, when we played at Detroit, we had one of the most electric finishes I've ever been a part of.


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[Assistant] They score, take the lead. We're down four, I think. I think it was four because there's no field goal. So helmet off for me, shoes untied. Here we go. Let's see what happens. And Andrew Luck makes some magic and then he ends up skirting one in and last play of the game as clock expired. You see all Lions fans just going, yep, fucking of course.


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[Assistant] Walk out the other side. That was one of those ones where you had to do a extra point after the game and it didn't really matter or whatever. There's a lot of green W's on this


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[Assistant] Jordy, I think Jordy can still play, huh? You saw him with those horses last night. Jordy can still play if he had to.


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[Assistant] But that lifestyle, the NFL lifestyle is one that's very, it's one that I had to think about. Like, do I want to go back and kick balls? And it's not just, can I kick balls? Well, it's like, okay, do I want to get into the lifestyle of 17 weeks being Groundhog's Day, just every day being Groundhog's Day and, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, somebody sent me a tweet of Jordy Nelson just hitting a softball maybe seven miles.


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[Assistant] So is, is he just a great, he's, I bet you he's good at everything, huh? Basketball, I'd assume he's really good at basketball. I'd assume he's just an incredible athlete all around.


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[Assistant] You really are in a closet. That house has to be so big by the way. There's 12 kids in there. That's a farmhouse out in Kansas. That thing has to be enormous.


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[Assistant] You just played on one of the, uh, thousand acres you have out there in Kansas?


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[Assistant] I struck out one celebrity softball game, no big deal. It was my last at bat in a softball game.


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[Assistant] Allegedly, sorry, I didn't do it on purpose. I didn't do it on purpose. Thank you, Jordy. Thank you, man. I think I'm a lefty, by the way. I think I'm a lefty. I think.


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[Assistant] Alright, I'm gonna take all the steroids before this thing too. Are you testing or no?


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[Assistant] We should probably already have that by the way. That's something we should probably think about having. I assume CFFL is already looking into that. That's if I die, everybody still gets money or whatever.


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[Assistant] Who, you know, we've made money together with, decides to kill himself by making a poor decision. We would still like to be able to make a living for at least a little bit. So that's, we've been looking into it, but before that trip, it does sound like we should probably do that. Cause if there's a bull around, I'm getting on that thing.


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[Assistant] Alright, we're gonna do that. Uh, to wrap up this week and this show, we didn't do this earlier today. Our intern keeps minutes of everything we talk about.


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[Assistant] Uhm, safe travels back home. Enjoy the farm. Tell Jordy and his entire group, we appreciate them. And obviously as always, we appreciate the hell out of you, Mr. Hawke.


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[Assistant] And what we've heard, softball player. Can't wait to get out to Kansas. We'll see you on Monday. Have the best quarantine weekend you could potentially have. Cheers.


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[Assistant] This guy is just a different specimen of a human.


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[Assistant] He was a complete different animal. I've never seen any human like him. I never will see another human just as the way he.


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[Assistant] We've talked about this a couple times, that food, the night before games, with the first regime.


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[Assistant] Came from both regimes, so I never really had, like for instance, my rookie year, whenever we decided to lose the last two games,


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[Assistant] It's similar too to Josh Gordon kinda. Cause I mean, he got suspended for what, marijuana again? And now that's off the, that's off the new or it's not a suspension anymore? Yeah. Correct? So what do they do with him?


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[Assistant] Is uh, John Groot a cartoon character all the time or just when the camera's on?


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[Assistant] Jordan, we talk a lot on this show about how we're Rust Belt kind of guys. We're from the Rust Belt area. Uhm, so like, do you think AJ or us, we could survive on a farm, or is that just a different kind of guy?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it doesn't look, I think since, from 92 to 2015.


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[Assistant] Yep, 2015, from 92 to 2015. Is this at Lambeau? Yea, Lions won 18-16 in 2015 at Lambeau.


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[Assistant] Wait, AJ, did you actually think about naming your child Michael Hawke?


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[Assistant] He wasn't, he wasn't, he wasn't any different off the camera. Matter of fact, I mean, he's more of a, he's a leader of men. Uh, he didn't just coach. He had, he taught you life lessons and stuff, how to incorporate it to your.


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[Assistant] To your, your career, your life, your family, uh, and your friends. And, uh, yeah, he was a, he was very religious with it aspect, but he didn't force religion on you. So.


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[Assistant] I consider him like he's the top head coach. He's, he's, he's number one to me. And so I'm always in a lot of the lessons he taught, no excuses, no explanations. I'd use that now.


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[Assistant] To date. So, uh, almost every day actually. So, and he just teaching you the value of not using excuses and, uh, just get the job done.


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[Assistant] Absolutely, uh, and that was a classic Tony Dungy rebuke.


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[Assistant] He's not going to yell at you. He's not going to curse at you. He's not going to do any of the above. He's just going to come right down the line, right down the middle with it.


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[Assistant] Uh, right or wrong or indifferent. I mean, he deserves the opportunity to write a wrong. If you, if you feel, feel like he made a wrong and let it be done. You don't, you don't write anybody off. You don't burn bridges. So that's classic Tony Dungy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, have a nice adult beverage and just, especially after a win, man. It's just, it's just no better feeling. And those are the things that you, you miss when you retire from the game.


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[Assistant] That locker room dynamic and those, those plane rides back. Man, you miss those and you just having fun. Uh, and just talking about everything across the board and you just, just having a good old time, man.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was, I was very salty at that. That was very salty at that. So it was a, it was a mural of basically Colt's heritage. Just all the, just the Superbowl, Baltimore, just Johnny United's Peyton Manny, Edwin James, just, and they just, he painted over that because I, but why? I don't know. I don't know. Still to this day.


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[Assistant] That rubbed me the wrong way, but at the same time, I'm trying to be a team guy, but I kind of asked, like, okay, what was the purpose of that? And...


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[Assistant] The answer I got, I wasn't satisfied with it, but I just left it alone, so.


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[Assistant] You can get rid of, right. I'm, and I'm happy that, uh, I feel like we landed on our feet now. You know, got Frank Wright and Chris Ballard. Ballard is a baby. He's a baby Polian. That's what, that's what I call him. Uh, he goes about it the same way, building the teams, uh, through the draft and you, and you add in key pieces because you've, you've done your homework on them. So our scouting department, they, they do a very extensive job of,


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[Assistant] Knowing guys before they, they signed anybody outside of, uh, the guy's been homegrown. So I'm very encouraged about the future for the coach now.


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[Assistant] I was trying to have a blast, but Morgantown, where all my friends were, there was a bar you could go to at least like every single night. There was somewhere you could go where there would be people. There was something you could do. I came to Indianapolis and I learned quickly like, ugh.


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[Assistant] Like, okay, Wednesday night here, I got nothing going on. There is nowhere to go. I am by myself right now. So I think that was my biggest, it was getting out of Morgantown to Indianapolis. Now Indianapolis, great people. If you know where to go, great spots. But when I was young, I didn't know that entire thing. So I think the biggest difference for me was the city of Morgantown, which will never be duplicated.


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[Assistant] The city of Morgantown will never ever be duplicated. And I don't think the time when I was at Morgantown will ever be duplicated either. Our basketball team was very good. Pitsnoggle was throwing up threes from the other thing. Our football team was very good. And the rules in Morgantown were very relaxed and the standards to get into the school were very, very low. I mean, it was, it was a recipe for.


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[Assistant] Obviously they don't have just a bar that's giving out 50 cent drinks every single night.


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[Assistant] You're like a family because you're growing up together. You're spending every single minute of your lives together from workouts to...


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[Assistant] To meals, to study halls, to practice, to li- I mean it's just, you're always together. In the NFL you have a lot of free time now, you gotta take care of your free time. I was not great with that, I think everybody realized that.


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[Assistant] So I think there was a couple of mighty differences, mostly off the field though, everything involved off the field, on the field, the workouts, the practices, everything very similar. I mean, actually probably lighter than it was in college because our workouts in college were insane, but off the field was a very different


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[Assistant] Still, still don't know how to hit it. Five at the door, drink till you drown.


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[Assistant] Fill it up. You know the deal. I didn't make the special. I didn't make the special. Your bar. Morgantown was insane. It was absolutely insane. I thought there was a chance that our team was the, like, the idea behind Blue Mountain State.


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[Assistant] Like I honestly, I honestly thought that that was it. I, cause I've only caught a couple episodes, but from what I've seen, I'm like, this feels like they're potentially watching what we got going on here in Morgantown and just got it going on. Oh, it was outrageous. Took a lot of mental discipline. I didn't have any of it. I mean, it was Morgantown was outrageous.


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[Assistant] And what I've been told off air is you have some breaking news as well and it involves Aussie rules football. AJ has some breaking news that I think it is time to let the world know. And this is going to be a big one. This could rattle some people down under. I just want to let that be known.


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[Assistant] Alright, Collingwood Magpies hit a little bit of a slump and Steel Sidebottom is out for four weeks for getting half naked, arrested or whatever. I mean these, that's why I'm a fan of the team.


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[Assistant] Oh! Steel Sidebottom, real name. Steel Sidebottom, real legend. Steel Sidebottom, real half-naked last weekend. Steel Sidebottom, really suspended for the next four games.


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[Assistant] But after watching the games, you know, I don't know if their style of play and story, I don't know if it's 100% matches up with me. And then I started getting some tweets from Australia like, eh, you go down with the magpies now pal. And now the steel sidebombs suspended for games, it kind of brought me back.


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[Assistant] But what you did is gonna be, I think frowned upon pretty heavily down under with you just turned your back on the St. Kilda Saints right to go to the Richmond Tigers who are champions.


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[Assistant] Spend 1.8 mil on a card. I would love to see how you justify that, like with your financial people, or your spouse, or whoever else you're, you're around, but yea, you must just have-


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[Assistant] A LeBron James rookie card, cool. More power to you, I guess. Congrats, you've won. You won the hustle.


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[Assistant] Doesn't he buy old, like, white guitars that John Lennon used to play and stuff like that?


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[Assistant] Did he, wait, did he take over his dad's company? Is that how everything started?


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[Assistant] That's what we've been doing for the last two years. Building what amounts to a firewall.


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[Assistant] A lot of people went outside without any jackets. And I gave my scarf to them.


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[Assistant] So I covered the economy and I really focus on cities and kind of urban planning, how the city comes together.


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[Assistant] And both of us have been really interested in trying to tell this big story that's been playing out simultaneously on both our beats, which is what happens to downtown districts across the country when workers stop going to the office.


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[Assistant] Yes, people working at home, people zooming into their jobs from cities that are, you know, thousands of miles from their headquarters. And this leaves a giant hole in downtown and really in sort of our culture.


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[Assistant] This idea of having a central place where people come together to trade goods, to find services, to make art and socialize.


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[Assistant] That has had a really central piece of, really, human culture for, say, five thousand-ish years.


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[Assistant] And now that the pandemic has left downtowns largely empty, the question is, can it be saved or does downtown have to become something totally different?


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[Assistant] So, to answer this question we have to go back in time a little tiny bit.


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[Assistant] Because San Francisco has not historically been a huge tech city.


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[Assistant] While San Francisco is often associated with tech, it's like 40 miles from the Silicon Valley. And the two places have kind of been a little bit separate.


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[Assistant] For most of its recent history, San Francisco's downtown had revolved around banks, insurance companies, kind of more boring set of businesses that had offices and


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[Assistant] You know, people wear suits. That's sort of the change around the late 1990s when the dot com boom happened. More tech companies started coming and sort of setting up shop in downtown San Francisco. So it started to have the embers of like a little tech industry, but it wasn't a huge thing just yet.


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[Assistant] Yelp is of course the app that rates different businesses.


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[Assistant] Okay, Jeremy, can you tell me a little bit about- And I talked to Yelp's founder, Jeremy


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[Assistant] And you know, obviously an app like Yelp makes a lot of sense in a city. You have all kinds of local businesses to review and all sorts of things you might do but want to see if they're worth doing.


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[Assistant] But this is also a company being started by a young, single guy who was just much more interested in working in a vibrant city like San Francisco than the more suburban Silicon Valley.


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[Assistant] And he's also building a company that's trying to attract other young coders, other creative people who probably also want to be in that more exciting, dense, urban environment.


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[Assistant] As an app is perfectly suited to a city and also a lot of ways in which the company was perfectly suited to being built in the city. And then in 2008, the great recession hits.


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[Assistant] And this city is really having a hard time, tax revenues plunging, and they need a new source of money, basically. They need a new economic boom. And they just bet it all on tech.


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[Assistant] Changing the tax structure of the city to sort of favor startups.


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[Assistant] Building owners started creating these open floor plans that tech companies really favor. A lot of this was building on something that was sort of happening already but this just supercharged it.


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[Assistant] And all of a sudden, San Francisco is kinda like this tech headquarters town.


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[Assistant] You have all these growing companies that are based in the actual city of San Francisco.


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[Assistant] And Yelp was at the center of this boom too. Yelp will cut the ribbon on its newly renovated headquarters. They actually moved to a new flagship office in this renovated Art Deco building downtown.


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[Assistant] All these places are based in the city of San Francisco and bring this flood of young, very well-paid workers to the city.


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[Assistant] And this triggers a whole economic ecosystem in which people come to work in these tall office buildings and then they go to the first floor to play. Whether that means going to a bar or a lunch place or a coffee place where it takes a half an hour to pour it over.


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[Assistant] And this becomes this kind of virtuous economic cycle.


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[Assistant] People make money selling the internet to people around the world in the top floors and then they go to the bottom floors to spend that money which creates retail and other kinds of businesses all around them.


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[Assistant] Rents that are pricing out working class people. And homelessness is increasing.


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[Assistant] There's a feeling of sort of, the tech has overrun the city. Right. Us against them. Yes.


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[Assistant] There's just a lot of anger and a lot of resentment coursing through the city over this idea that it's just become this playground for techies.


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[Assistant] Well, so Yelp, like a lot of tech companies, embraces this, telling people very early on, you're never going to have to come back. They start reorganizing the company to hire people in every single state in remote status.


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[Assistant] And finally, they let the lease on their entire headquarters lapse. They decide we are never going back to this historic office building.


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[Assistant] Yes, and suddenly Jeremy Stoppelman is running a publicly traded company from his living room and decides, you know what? This is not that bad.


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[Assistant] In typical downturn, what happens is office rents fall to a point at which new companies start flooding back in.


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[Assistant] And in a sense, that's what brought the Jeremy Stoppelmans of the world and the new entrepreneurs to San Francisco to kind of create the embers of this eventual tech boom in the first place.


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[Assistant] But now we're sort of faced with a different question, which is what happens to this downtown neighborhood if it's not going to have that role as an office center? What role does it have if it's not going to be that?


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[Assistant] The obvious answer is, it becomes a place not just where people work, but a place where people live and work, where people perhaps recreate, where there are arts and all sorts of things, a more 24 hour kind of neighborhood. But the truth is, there's all these really huge impediments to prevent that from happening.


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[Assistant] Yes, the much needed housing everyone needs. And it sounds so logical in paper, but the truth is, office buildings, as anybody who's ever been in an office building knows, are not really the same as housing.