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[Assistant] Legit people and kind of staying tuned up, you know, as well as you could. It's still a shame what happened to him.


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[Assistant] Maybe their running game, if they can figure it out. Maybe their defense will be so dominant it will score.


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[Assistant] We just needed two more safeties. We win that game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm thinking it's a 500 season and we might get lucky.


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[Assistant] And sneak in at 9 or 10 if, if they get a roll call. I mean, the thing about the NFL.


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[Assistant] Everybody has all these predictions. Most of them are wrong. I don't make any. I'm just like, I hope we have some fun. Yeah. I don't live my life through.


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[Assistant] Sports anymore. Like, I don't know if I ever did. Seahawks would be the closest thing to me, you know.


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[Assistant] I'm over it, you know, before the gun, usually, like, it's okay. Gretchen still likes me.


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[Assistant] I got golf on Monday. Like, you know, I'm not as passionate as I once was and that doesn't take away from my, I hope they do well and I appreciate what they do, but I'm not a fanatic, I guess is the best way to put it.


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[Assistant] Well, I think you've seen it all and you know there's so many games, like, the smarter people know it's a long season and any win is a good win, right? Like,


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[Assistant] Like if you're an NFL coach and you win five to three, going on to next week, we won. They don't give a damn.


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[Assistant] So, I hope they do well, the games are fun to go to, it's a fun place. For me, a lot of going back is, it's like an old reunion. I get to see old friends, look cool on the sidelines pointing at things, and that's really the reason I go back. I got to the Storm game, they gave us amazing seats.


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[Assistant] Too much, yeaah. My daughter was so embarrassed, she's like, oh my god, dad, they're not gonna do that, are they? I don't wanna be in the shot, you know.


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[Assistant] Now, I said, Annie, you're trying to go into journalism. I said, yeah, I would have a purpose. I wouldn't be like, sitting next to you while they do some things.


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[Assistant] So, just by chance, Annie and her friend left to go to the bathroom or something, and their big stuffed animal mascot sits down next to me. That's when they did it. But it was nice. I'm flattered they think something of me, and I'm friends with Sue Bird.


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[Assistant] I'm hugely proud of what she's pulled off. Not just in basketball, but.


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[Assistant] All the other many things socially, politically, like the women, WNBA players have been the biggest leaders and all that in this insane time we're living through. And uhm, it's just cool to see her play.


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[Assistant] Darts around, her passing's great. I mean, it's really fun. They're a fun team to watch.


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[Assistant] They play Las Vegas next. That team is very good. We saw them while we were in Vegas. So I've been to a few of the storm games this year.


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[Assistant] Fully knowledgeable league-wide no, but you, I'm probably not that for NFL either to be honest at this point. If I were covering it, I would be, but I'm not, so I don't have to be.


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[Assistant] I know what the first read on draw is, if it's the same as when I played. If the middle linebacker crashes, your tight end should be open and you throw it quickly before any linemen go downfield. That was what we were talking. But I don't necessarily know.


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[Assistant] Or the assistant general manager of the Cincinnati Bengals. I should know because I should have, they should have won that game. I thought they were going to win.


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[Assistant] He's been great in a whole bunch of different ways. Unexpected borough. I'm amazed by, I used to say there just aren't 32 quality quarterbacks in the world. There's 8 billion people, but we can't, there just are not 32, but we're getting closer.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Well, I would argue right now in 2022 and somebody could argue back about a different time period. If you went 32 teams.


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[Assistant] List off their number ones. I think we might be at the top level we've ever been as top or close to the top for quality, you know, I mean, we're the closest.


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[Assistant] Well, to having 32, like, we've never been 32 for 32, but I think, I don't know what the number is, but we're, we might be at 20, 22, because look at the ASU West alone.


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[Assistant] That's, that's pretty crazy. He's, he's very good. And the old any given Sunday, he's great, right? Like a lot of them.


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[Assistant] But I mean, you got homes, Russell's now joined the fray and you got the young kid, Herbert.


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[Assistant] That's a good name. That's a good name. Whole conference is even crazier.


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[Assistant] So, but you know, we, we just added up six names without trying. Then you throw in, you know, Brady and you throw in Aaron, you know, on and on down the list. I don't know.


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[Assistant] Where I was talking to them about their elite status. So I was like.


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[Assistant] I said, you were elite, pointing to Peyton, and then I looked at Heath, I was like, you were some of the time. He was great, because he knew, play it like you're a little pissed, but don't be a, you know, he's like.


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[Assistant] And then I said, you know what, is it, like when I get on certain airlines and I'm checking in, they'll thank me for my elite status and I feel pretty good walking down the hall. And is it like that at NFL stadiums?


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[Assistant] I can't remember. Eli says no and Peyton says yes or whatever.


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[Assistant] Those guys have been fun to work with and JB Smooth, like we've had, we've had some good time. Shot with him a few times now. Halle Berry, we got to be in a commercial with her, that wasn't terrible.


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[Assistant] The studies, the studies show the listeners will stop after one hour. They might be gone already, but uh, this was enjoyable and we'll talk down the road.


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[Assistant] The Steelers lose at Cincinnati next week. Ryan failing tattoo right here.


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[Assistant] Then I'll do it. Of course I'll do it. But you have to pay for it.


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[Assistant] Also, shout out to Deebo because I, Deebo and I planned this behind you two idiots backs and he was more than willing to, his flight and our flight, my flight got in at the same time, we got to the hotel, booked it over to the tattoo parlor at noon yesterday. Shout out to my guy Travis who did the tattoo.


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[Assistant] Also, shout out to everyone that Brinson made donate. So thank you people. Shout out to Brinson for finally getting up. Breach actually ended up doing nothing, by the way. Yeah, Breach did nothing. Just being a Bengals fan.


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[Assistant] I'm assuming that people copy tattoos all the time. I do feel sort of bad that whoever the OG tattooer was, and tattoo-ee, but you know, I'm trying to give him a shout out.


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[Assistant] Also, one more thing, when we were at the, me and Debo were at the tattoo shop yesterday, uh, in Nashville, they, they noted that after the Bengals demolished the Titans in the divisional game, divisional game.


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[Assistant] There's a mad rush to the tattoo parlors around Nashville, and Bingo's fans, by and large, were incredibly nice fans. Some other fanbases, the Buffalo Bills, were less nice when they were in town. But, uhm, Bingo's fans' concerns that were voiced to the tattoo artists were, uh, is this gonna jinx the Super Bowl chances?


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[Assistant] I told you this earlier, like I didn't want to get on my back because I'd never be able to see it.


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[Assistant] Um, also I did, I thought like around, you know, upper thigh where no one would see it again, but then every time you get in and out of shower, you look at a Snoopy down there.


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[Assistant] Uh, what's the word? The cherry on top of this turd sundae?


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[Assistant] I texted my 15 year old, he said, how you doing? I said, uh, pretty good. Uh, by the way, I got a tattoo yesterday. He goes, oh yeah, mom showed me. It's actually really cool.


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[Assistant] I talked to him about it and he sort of, he stenciled it, like he cut it, he printed it out and he, he held it up to your arm and me and Deebo decided, like there was a size bigger than the one I got. I was like, yeah, I don't know if I would go that big. That's pretty big.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but he said in terms of the detail, you can't have it super small. So, I don't know, you could, I mean...


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[Assistant] I think on your back there you just can't see it. Maybe you don't want to see it. So I didn't want to forget that it was there because I want to be reminded of my Ryan Finley.


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[Assistant] No, the only other thing that the tattoo artist, he and his buddy, his other buddy had come into work by that point and they said, oh, uh, you lost a bet. Is this after the super bowl? Like, no, no, just a random game in 2020 Steelers Thursday. It was Thursday night. I think it was.


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[Assistant] This is like me and Deebo being on a trivia team at a, you know, the bar trivia night and the, the, the topic is like hip hop and basketball against you two idiots. Like there was no chance that you were going to be able to match wits with, with me and Deebo.


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[Assistant] It was great, yeaah. It was, it could have been, it could have been worse, yeaah. Did you cry? You saw the picture, it came close. Uhm, to your point though, Breach, like Nashville is, uh, Bachelorette Party central, so.


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[Assistant] Like, it was, I, I, I, I texted, uh, texted an email a bunch of places, four, eight and higher, and none of them got back to me. And then electric hand was the last one, four, nine.


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[Assistant] That's why I was trying to push that narrative after I already hadn't made the reservation, just so you know I'm not sweet.


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[Assistant] Oh, that had nothing to do with tattoo. Just strictly being on time and anxiety reasons.


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[Assistant] By the way, Jason Lockham Ford just tweets out the long national nightmare is over.


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[Assistant] Wilson, I mean, what a world. What a world.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's more, uh, more family oriented. By the way, I text my wife the link to...


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[Assistant] There you go. Uhm. Oh, that's actually really good.


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[Assistant] No, let's go. We're done. I think people are caught up. Uh, thanks again to everybody who donated, including Brinson. Again, Breach, you did literally nothing, um, in terms of contributing.


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[Assistant] Members are great. I mean, if you watch, he, he, he threw a lot of them, you know, Prisco texts me right away. Cause Prisco Kenny Pickett was his number one quarterback. And all he said was pick it. I said Pete.


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[Assistant] He threw a bunch of five-year passes and the last pass of the end was a nice play by Tyler Vons, uh, on a little quick out. But yeah, no, he did what he's asked to do. He had, um, he got sacked, um, pretty horribly on one plane of the goal line and then a fourth down play that wasn't really his fault necessarily. He got sacked. They lost the ball near midfield.


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[Assistant] Uh, he played okay though. I mean, I don't have any concerns with it, but honestly, the three, I don't know how much of that game you watched, but the three quarters that play, Trubisky, Mason Rudolph, and Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett was probably the third best, but again, 13, 15, 95 yards to touchdowns. You're not going to be upset by that if you're, uh, want to see Kenny Pickett play sooner rather than later. So it's a good start, but he didn't throw the ball down the field. I don't think he threw any pass air yards wise that went over 10 yards.


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[Assistant] So, just something to keep in mind. But again, it could have gone a lot worse. And uhm, you know, he's certainly used to playing there. The fans are super pumped.


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[Assistant] They were chanting, K-N-E, K-N-E, and uhm,


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[Assistant] Did Joe Burrow play rookie season, pre-season?


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[Assistant] Cause Kenny Pickett is not gonna be, unless something crazy happens, he's not gonna be Joe Burrow in terms of that sort of impact type player. But you know, he's-


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[Assistant] That's fine. I mean, yeah, of course. Cause I don't think Mr. Bisky is probably going to play.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. Tomlin sort of indicated, I think when BMAC and JJ were there camp last week that Trubisky


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think that's a good place to start. There's no reason to throw Kenny Pickett out there. Because here's the thing, Breach, and you know this as a fan of a team that


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[Assistant] There you go. But what you don't want to do is what I was going to say is that you don't want to put Kenny Pickett out there, then he struggles, then you have to bring Mr. Biskey in, and then you have to start flip-flopping these guys after, you know, a bad series. So I think you start with the better.


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[Assistant] Once the season starts, he said, is there any chance that Kenny wins the job? And I said, I, even if he outplays Mr. Trubisky and he hasn't yet, and Tom has indicated that he wants Trubisky, I think you roll with Trubisky. Uhm, and then if he struggles then in October, November, whenever you make the switch, because otherwise you're just.


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[Assistant] You're doing what they did with Tua. You're sort of having him on a string and he's going back and forth and Fitzpatrick's coming in and no one's clear what the roles are.


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[Assistant] Because the Patriots defense is, might be better than Bigelow.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Boya Mafe flashed their second round pick. Kenny Walker looked pretty good. Kenneth Walker, excuse me, looked pretty good in the carries he had. Uhm, Tariq Wolin, the cornerback in Kobe Bryant, I thought weren't terrible, but I mean, you're not gonna win football games with a draft class having to make all the plays. So, do you know?


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[Assistant] Fine. He looked like Gino. Drew Locke had a strip sack at the end that cost him the win, which checks out. But other than that, DK didn't play, Paloalto didn't play.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Brenton mentioned George Pickens won the second round and I remember I was talking to wide receivers coach before the draft and he said it's all just like, immaturity stuff. Like he would have gone earlier. It wasn't even the ACL or the tour last spring.


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[Assistant] Why? What a horrible horrible decision. Uhm, 2013 was my best.


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[Assistant] 2009 was Stafford. Yep. 2008 was Matt Ryan. Yep. Joe Flacco. I think Joe Flacco may have started the year. Matt Ryan started the year. 2007?


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[Assistant] Sorry to interrupt, but take a look at the Dirk Vandenberg's comment and then Deebo's response.


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[Assistant] Prowl's a little slight, and Prowl's struggled to keep weight on I believe last year at Ole Miss.


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[Assistant] But look, compared to what Kenny Pickett did, I thought Sam Howell did a lot more things that gave you, uh, some things to be excited about in terms of pushing the ball down the field. The Steelers perhaps didn't ask Kenny Pickett to do that, I'm not weighing in on Kenny Pickett, but Sam Howell, uh,


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[Assistant] I don't know which drive it was that he's, he ended up scoring a 15, 20 yard run on the last play. The two previous plays, he made two fantastic throws in the middle of the field and like, okay, this works. He had a couple of throws outside that were almost intercepted a little late.


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[Assistant] You're not thrashing me. It's you. And short stuff over here.


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[Assistant] That's like saying, uh, you're a really good pilot, but if you hadn't flown to the side of that mountain, we wouldn't have thought you were a terrible pilot. So in the end, you know, he hit the mountain and you have to sort of reevaluate.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the starters didn't play in, um, in New England. Bailey Zappi drafted ahead of, of Sam Howell, which is certainly noteworthy because no one saw that coming.


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[Assistant] And what are his numbers here? 1930, oh my god, he threw the ball 10, 1932, 205 yards, um, touchdown, Adiboh wonders if he could beat out Hoyer. Absolutely. That's such a Bill Belichick move. Like you draft someone, you only have two quarterbacks on the roster. The second quarterback hasn't played one minute. You make the face, but he's done that before.


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[Assistant] Yeah, previously it was obviously Tom Brady is the number one, so there was no real concern there. Uhm, I will say this though.


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[Assistant] I didn't see Baylor's happy snaps or some of the things I read where there were some concerns about arm issues. And arm issues were the concerns coming out of Western Kentucky as well. He reminded me a lot of like Doug Hodges and Taylor Heinecke. And I think that doesn't necessarily have to be a ceiling, but I mean, I don't know if his arm's gonna get noticeably better over the next few months or few years.


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[Assistant] I think, yeaah. I mean, he did a lot of things that got your attention. He made some late throws and missed some things, but whatever, that doesn't matter. But you want to see him push the ball down the field. He did that. He had a deep ball that he completed. He used his legs. He bounced off a couple of guys and scored a touchdown.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's not necessarily best case scenario, but it's pretty high up there. It could've gone in the other, it could've been a Matt Corral type situation.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, you're right. I mean, again, but that's one of the issues coming out of Liberty where he was the only show in town having to do everything.


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[Assistant] Marcus Marius had one start since 2019. And when I was doing, uhm,


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[Assistant] In the lead up to the draft we do all these video on demands of sort of the scouting reports 30 seconds and I did Desmond Ritter and my comp for him was, you want to guess who it was? Uh, I do not want to guess. Marcus Mariota.


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[Assistant] So, there's similar type players, but I think Desmond Ritter clearly has more upside. He's a new guy in the quarterback room.


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[Assistant] And again, he's the guy who did some things that, that were impressive. The only issue I have with Desmond was the accuracy, uh, in terms of consistency, because, um, I said this a million times in the lead up.


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[Assistant] Uh, to the draft when we talk to him in the combine, he was awesome. Like a guy that you want leading your football team. He loves football. That's all he cares about. Um, he's not, he won't give you any issues off the field. He's going to be at work all the time. That sort of stuff. Um, made a lot of good decisions. He just struggled with accuracy and we saw a little bit of that in the first go round in the preseason game.


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[Assistant] But we saw some throws that were like big boy throws that I didn't see necessarily consistently at Cincinnati. So that was encouraging. And again, I wouldn't start him right away for the same reason. I want to start Kenny Pickett because once you can't go back, he goes out there and gets absolutely destroyed and gets sacked 20 times in the first three games. And he's, you know, you look, well, this guy needs a break. Do you want to play, play the sort of the yo-yo game with him and Marcus Mario?


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[Assistant] So last Monday, eight days ago, I was at Bill's training camp with Crisco.


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[Assistant] And I was watching him and Matt- Did you tell him to get Arise the Tattoo right here? Matt Hawk, is that how you say his last name? A-A-A-H-A-A-C-K. Who they're competing.


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[Assistant] And Huck's actually a pretty good punter, but, uh, it's sort of like, for instance, I'm sure you're, you know, there's like, when you're at a golf hermit and you hear a professional golfer hit a golf ball, it sounds differently than when you hit a golf ball. Right. That's how the ball sounded coming off Matt arises foot. And I was 50 yards away watching him.


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[Assistant] And it feels like he's a guy, and this isn't necessarily uncommon, I think, uhm, Mac, if you do this, but a guy...


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[Assistant] Who would continually hit the Jerry Dome scoreboard in the middle of the field. He hits the ball so incredibly high. And it's just crazy to watch. Like I think he hadn't been lighting it up at camp, but I think there's a competition with him and, and Hawk, but uhm. Well and Hawk only had one point in this game, uh, over


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[Assistant] By the way, Paul Tattoon notes he thinks it was 72 air point yards.


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[Assistant] But I think that's, I mean, we talked about this. You want Tyreek to do exactly, you don't want to be in town. We talk about Jesus at Red Rocks. I know that wasn't true, but you know my point. You understand what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] I don't read- I've never once read Breach's newsletter. Nor will I. No offense.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, you could say, I get what you're saying, but you could also say that, uh, Skylar Thompson, um, who was drafted in day three, 20, 28, 218 yards and a touchdown. And then like, okay, is Mike McDaniel a quarterback whisperer, even though sort of he's known for coordinating the running game.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's a great show by Skylar Thompson, no doubt about it, but maybe the way that McDaniels is doing things, it will have that effect on Tua. I mean, Teddy B is also there, and he, it could be a, a Teddy B Tua, it could be also just like a Ryan Fitzpatrick Tua situation if things don't go well, because the pressure, for instance, I haven't talked about this, I don't think you were on the pod this time, but


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[Assistant] Uh, Devo and I were talking about this yesterday as we were walking to the four miles to the dinner spots that Breach had picked out. Like I have, I can't imagine Breach driving a car, just doesn't seem like physically possible. We were coming up with, with .4 miles.


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[Assistant] We're coming up with what kind of car Breach would drive. So if you have it, like what your guesses would be and what Breach drives, uh, Devo said an H3 Hummer. I said a Mini Cooper. Like what kind of, like look at this guy, what kind of car.


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[Assistant] Or maybe he drives like a Mitsubishi Spider.


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[Assistant] Oh, okay, that's the family mobile. That's the family mobile.


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[Assistant] I think we're at the point where Baker's not even top 5 concern. Like he's...


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[Assistant] I'm less concerned about him than about, uh, a myriad of other things, starting with Elf of the Blind, the wide receivers, the tight ends.


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[Assistant] He was awesome in Memphis, but you know, it doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] This is the UEFA Champions League. Stream every match live on Paramount Plus.


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[Assistant] Well, my contract stipulates that I cannot be the shortest person at the desk, despite being the shortest person on the podcast by far. And, uh, yes, I did deep my way into a brand new studio where Ryan Wilson, at the same height, if you watched a YouTube video yesterday of this podcast, you will notice that Wilson


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[Assistant] Brinton is not beating me. So, I got the highest bid last year. I'm going for two years in a row. Not to rub it in, but I have a small lead over Brinton right now. I don't want to lose. And I'm in a decent third, so if you have any...


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[Assistant] What we should have given out to bid is our spot in our Super Bowl draft we're going to do.


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[Assistant] Johnny actually lives in London too, so shout out if he's watching on London time right now. He's eating dinner.


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[Assistant] No, we usually, this, what usually happens is that. We record this.


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[Assistant] And I guarantee at some point in this podcast, Princeton has accused my prediction of not being bold, but actually being bold, and that there's, uh, some out for me to somehow win. We'll see if that happens.


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[Assistant] Devo told us last night at the bar, we need three bold predictions, uh, so I've had five minutes to think about this.


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[Assistant] I didn't say I hate it. Good for Derwin James. No, I said it's bad for the Bengals because Justin Bates is gonna want Derwin James money. Literally take his money.


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[Assistant] He's gonna say, can you connect, can you just copy Xerox, throw in James Contract, and I'll sign it. But you would agree. And then scratch out and put Jesse Bates's name.


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[Assistant] Brenton, do you want me to grade first or do you want to grade first? Uh, I will grade first. I will give you a C minus.


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[Assistant] Alright, so here is what I have to say, I essentially agree with, you picked the second team, the second favorite to win, so I don't know if it qualifies as both.


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[Assistant] We'll see, we'll see, we'll let the people decide. Uh, so on one hand, the Chargers have not won this division since 2009.


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[Assistant] So in that sense, it's like you were saying, they're always out there charging and...


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[Assistant] Uhm, I am gonna give you a C+. Better than Brinton. Alright, I'll take it.


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[Assistant] You guys ready? I feel like it's bolder than Wilson's prediction. My bold prediction!


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[Assistant] The Indianapolis Colts win the AFC. No, no, no. It wasn't my bowl prediction. They win the AFC or I think it's that they finish with the best record in the AFC. So that's uh, Debo.


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[Assistant] Put my prediction incorrectly. So they finished with the best record in the AFC. Uhm, I think they are going, look, we saw it last season where the Titans kind of came out of nowhere, even though they didn't have Derrick Henry for a good chunk of the season, they still finished 12-5, still got the number one seed. And it's because a team


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[Assistant] Winning the AFC means you get to the Super Bowl. That's the conference championship. That's not what I'm predicting. I'm predicting they finish with the best record in the AFC.


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[Assistant] But to be clear, the prediction is the Colts finish with the best record in the


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[Assistant] You have the Bills, the Chiefs, the Chargers, Broncos, Ravens, and Bengals all have better odds than the Colts.


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[Assistant] To win the AFC. To win the AFC. Which is, you know, Vegas way of saying that these teams are probably better than the Colts. The Ravens do too.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I just think that the Colts are in an easier division than, like you just said, the AFC West team is going to beat up on each other. Uhm, I think the Bills are good. I think the Bills are the biggest threat. And then obviously the Ravens and the Bengals being in the same division.


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[Assistant] They haven't played the Texans in a week. Oh, you know what else happened in 2009?


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[Assistant] Professor Wilson over here, I won't touch you, but you gave me an A minus. We'll high five you.


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[Assistant] I am gonna, like when I do my season predictions the week before the season starts, I am pretty sure the Colts, I will have them as the top team.


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[Assistant] That doesn't mean it's impossible. I think it's like a 10 to 1 long shot. I don't think it's crazy just because the Titans aren't a great team. Titans good enough to win the division? Yes. Are the Colts good enough to win the division? Yes. But the fact that there's no powerhouse team. If the Chiefs were in this division, I would bet all the money on the Chiefs. But it's just, there's none of these.


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[Assistant] That is fascinating, because they're in a horrible division.


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[Assistant] The only way he's not going to play is if they already have a playoff berth clinched. Which would put them in the playoffs. You know though, but here's the thing is that you look at their first two games, Tom Brady, they played the Bengals. There's a very real chance they start 0-2.


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[Assistant] And if that happens and Mike McCarthy is already feeling this pressure, that's a situation where the wheels fall off the wagon and also if there's the Sean Payton


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[Assistant] Uh, so I, I like this pr throwing the fact that we h repeat winner since 2004.


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[Assistant] Oh. It's just, that's the division where it's always up in the air. I'm gonna give this, uh, what did I give you last time? A C+. I'm gonna give you an A-.


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[Assistant] It's a bold prediction. All right, Breach, what's your second bold prediction? My second bold prediction that, uh, Princeton, I hope you like it.


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[Assistant] Is that the Green Bay Packers do not win the NFC North.


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[Assistant] Uh, look, I know that we have seen a lot of Packers Division titles over the past few years. We have three in a row.


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[Assistant] And I don't think, I think this is where the cracks start to show. They lost to Vonta Adams. They have to completely revamp their offense. And I think that the Vikings are going to be good. I don't know if they're going to be the team that wins it. I think the Lions are going to surprise some people and I don't care about the Bears. They're going to be bad. So prediction is that the Packers run and they don't win the NFC.


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[Assistant] You know what it's called, you don't have to follow the script with your whole life, Wilson. Sometimes you gotta go off screen.


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[Assistant] So you grade mine first and then I'll grade yours.


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[Assistant] Are we gonna do a podcast live from South America at some point? I would love to do that.


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[Assistant] The Lions have easier schedules than the Packers? And the Vikings. I mean, they do 14 similar games, 3 different games.


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[Assistant] Their biggest different game though is that they get to play Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] You know what's funny is that I didn't realize what the Eagles' odds to win the NFC were until I saw Brynston's bold prediction and looked it up and they were actually better than, they're still not, this still qualifies as bold.


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[Assistant] It's surprisingly high. There's 16 teams in the NFC. Obviously they have the sixth best odds. I mean, 11 to 1. 11 to 1. It's outside the 10 to 1 range. So absolutely qualifies as bold. I'm going to give it an A minus.


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[Assistant] Well if it's in Philadelphia in January, I'm not betting on the Cardinals. They don't play NSC Targets at neutral sites.


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[Assistant] But it's fitting because our last two predictions are actually contradictions of each other because they both cannot come true.


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[Assistant] They're going to, they built the offense around him. He's going to put up huge stats. He's going to win MVP. And this is bold. He is 16 to one and he has never received an MVP vote. Not a single one. I didn't know that.


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[Assistant] He is gonna go from receiving zero MVP votes to actually winning MVP. I am on the Russell Wilson bandwagon. Just give him the trophy now because we know he's gonna win it and there's no reason to not just give him the trophy now. Do they get a trophy? Give him the trophy.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, fun fact, what is the worst record that has ever won MVP?


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[Assistant] He knows it's not true. I just don't remember, uh, first year starting quarterback ever winning MVP. So it just seems a little crazy. Second year, yea I guess.


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[Assistant] But I do think Jonathan Taylor, who is 50 to 1, they're right next to each other in the odds, uh, is gonna have a big say in that. Trevor Lawrence at 100 to 1 is not Craig.


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[Assistant] But if you think the Eagles are going to be in the Super Bowl, Jalen Hurts at 31 has got to feel, uh, pretty interesting.


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[Assistant] Well you only gave me three options and I took the lesser of three evils.


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[Assistant] Nice. Because Terry McWhorn has Carson Wentz throwing the ball. And I cannot imagine a receiver who has Carson Wentz throwing him the ball, winning MVP.


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[Assistant] The thing is, if a receiver has a big year, that generally means the quarterback had a big year. So has a receiver ever won MVPM trying to... The Calvin ever won at Megatron?


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[Assistant] Kicker. Kicker. Quarterback. Yep. Ronnie Mack. Yep. Lawrence Taylor. Yep.


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[Assistant] And let's not forget, at no point this century has an NFL MVP won the Super Bowl. Uhm. So you almost don't even want to win it.


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[Assistant] And I feel like, you know, obviously we have seen this linger. The CBA says it's supposed to be an expedited process. He's supposed to come out with a decision quickly. It feels like he put the word out that you guys need to settle, but there's a deadline. He has probably set like a soft deadline.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's for the best. We don't want your haircut guy to fire you.


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[Assistant] Shout out KDG, the best in the business. We got KDG, shout out. We got Travis, the tattoo artist. Who do you have, Rick? Uh, you don't want to know. My laundry guy.


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[Assistant] Two weeks, NC State comes to Syracuse to face the undefeated orange men.


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[Assistant] He also, uhm, has made, like, a reappearance in the big three in previous- Oh, how is he? ... years on, uh, watching on Paramount+. Uhm, he, he can, like, he was one of the top players at age 50 in that league.


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[Assistant] He grew up in L.A., I think, because they were talking about it at the All-Star game last week in L.A., that he was in his hometown.


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[Assistant] Like, I would assume, like, if you voted for pick six and like, hey, your vote mattered, you know, do it again. Interesting.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you got a little bit. Remind me again what the tattoo is. Is it just a Pixix logo?


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[Assistant] Four last five years! You said, uh, a lot of CBS podcasts are on there too, so we're, you know.


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[Assistant] Wow, so you're gonna, you're gonna stop a dynasty or be in one yourself.


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[Assistant] So it's like we're in the Super Bowl era, right? Like, you know, that's kind of how I think we should be looking at it. There was, there was championships, but now you're in the fantasy football today, whatever.


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[Assistant] Maybe, maybe this, it's like the, it's like the conference award winners now, like you're gonna get the fantasy football, you already won the fantasy footballers trophy, now you're moving on to the big one? Maybe, I don't know, uhm.


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[Assistant] But, uh. It sounds like people just really like fantasy football.


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[Assistant] It reminds me of uhm, the office when Andy was the manager and he was like, I will get a tattoo on my butt if you guys do this. And they're like, oh, we can pool our points to do it. They did it in an hour.


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[Assistant] It's also not like it's like called like the Will Brinton show where it's like, okay, at least it's your name. You don't have any really affiliation after.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, okay. You could do like a, your spin on the Lombardi kinda.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's pretty high. I think a lot of people are asking around here at least, you know, with the struggles and it's really, yes, they're moving to an outside zone or at least that they've been tinkering with an outside zone. Who knows if that's going to be like the offense, but that's what they've been doing so far in camp.


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[Assistant] And Mack Jones has looked efficient, really all the quarterbacks have looked efficient when they're running seven on sevens, but the second you introduce a pass rush and the offensive lines in front of you.


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[Assistant] They can't move the football. They can't complete a pass. Jones is running, running out.


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[Assistant] And is either throwing the ball away, is trying to cram something in, is throwing an interception. It's just, and they can't even run the ball either. Like it just, there hasn't been a lot of plus plays when they get into those competitive 11 on 11s.


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[Assistant] Uh, when, it wasn't, uh, it was last week when we were interviewing Jones, he was visibly frustrated. You could just tell he's, it's just, nothing is working quite right. And so,


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[Assistant] You know, you wonder, okay, like, is it the personnel? Is it the offensive line? Is it the system? Is it whatever? You know, that remains to be seen.


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[Assistant] See, that's the thing, I think that that's a cop out though. Like, I don't think that this is the, like the 2014 Patriots defense where it's got just all these studs and it's all of a sudden it's like, oh actually the Patriots defense is just elite and this offense is okay, it's just they're facing the best defense in the NFL every single day. I don't think that that's the case at all, I think.


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[Assistant] The offense is struggling. You know, you have a lot of wide receivers. I think this is part of it too. A lot of these guys are contested catch guys. They're not really separators. I think that that's one of the reasons why you're interested in Taekwon Thornton because he has that speed. So, you know, when there's not that clear window to throw to somebody because they're these kind of contested catch guys, not necessarily a separator.


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[Assistant] Right, cause it's not this, this world beater of a defense. They're just beating up on a bad offense, which I would assume any NFL caliber defense could. So yeah, no, I'm with you on that. So it'll be interesting to see when they play the Giants. I like the Giants minus two in this one is a road favorite.


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[Assistant] I think that, you know, top to bottom, at least at the quarterback spot, I think that they're better. Like, I think you're going to see a lot of Bailey Zappi in the second half, and Davis Webb is probably going to get a ton of looks in that second half for New York, who, very similar to Stidham, when he was playing with Josh McDaniels in the opener of the Hall of Fame game.


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[Assistant] He has in-depth knowledge because he was in Buffalo last year under Dayball Systems. So that's going to, again, help you kind of get off pretty quickly in this game. So I think that, you know, even if


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[Assistant] The offense for the Patriots, if the 1s play and they get out to some sort of a lead, I think that in the second half it's gonna be.


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[Assistant] Yeah, would you just like, do you have a tattoo? Like, I know you don't have any tattoos.


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[Assistant] I mean maybe I get a... Would you do like NC State? Like is that like too...


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[Assistant] Yeah, but like at the same time, I don't know what really this necessarily means, right? Like, yeah sure, this means that Mitchell Trubisky's got the job for week one, but alright, like what happens if he stinks up the joint in week one and all of a sudden he's Mitchell Trubisky from what we saw in Chicago?


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[Assistant] You have a first round pick and Kenny Pickett right behind him. The second there's any sort of questioning or what, or poor play.


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[Assistant] He, you have a guy, like, you, you drafted a guy in the first round. At some point, he's going to play. I know that, you know, I guess you can make the same case with Mason Rudolph at some point too, but you had been Ralph Asperger.


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[Assistant] You know, entrenched as the starter. It's not the same thing. You drafted Kenny Pickett to, at some point, be the guy. And so if Trabisky looks great and is good for one year, then that's perfect. That's fine. You can re-


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[Assistant] shape his image and go somewhere else or stay in Pittsburgh, but at some point they invested a first round pick. I think at some point in 2022 we're going to see Kenny pick it.


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[Assistant] Probably. If you're 500 and you're kind of winning in sight of him, then you're going to have those conversations. Like, do we just, do we make this switch? Especially, you know, if it's, I mean, obviously if you're under 500 and Baltimore and Cincinnati are kind of running away with the division at that point, again, it's early enough that.


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[Assistant] It depends, yeaah, it depends on how three and five looks. Like if you're competitive against, you know, Tampa and you're competitive against Philadelphia and all, and those, in those heavy areas, right.


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[Assistant] Right, like if the defense is winning in these games, if TJ Watch is just an animal and he's, you know, they're just absolutely shutting down these offenses, but you're only winning the game like, you know, 17 to 10, and you're kinda, and Trevisky's inefficient, then okay, yeaah, you're gonna have questions like, hey, can Pickett take us to that other level to match what the defense is doing?


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[Assistant] And just my thing too is with Trabisky, I know like this week they're saying, okay, he's having a good week, he's pulling away.


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[Assistant] You gotta remember, last week he was getting crapped on, like he was 0 for 16 in those 7 shots from the 2 yard line, just trying to punch it in, like, and it's like, oh boy, here we go, Trubisky, so, you gotta remember, it ebbs and flows during training camp in the preseason, and, so yes, he might start for you right now,


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[Assistant] But let's see what these games look like. If Kenny Pickett when the lights turn on actually looks decent, then, you know, we'll see what happens.


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[Assistant] It's a better plan because they're in the NFC. If they're in the AFC, it's ridiculous. It makes no sense. You have to, you know, there's so many good quarterbacks. There's so many, so much talent over there. It's in so many different teams competing for a playoff spot.


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[Assistant] You could, in the NFC, I feel like you could find that team that like sneaks in. You're like, wait a minute, really? They made the playoffs? I feel like you could see that more this year than maybe in years past.


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[Assistant] You know, as much as we're saying, okay, Geno Smith has a full grasp or, you know, whatever, he's, he's got the lead for the, for the thing over Drew Locke. I, I wait on this quarterback competition quote unquote.


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[Assistant] Until we find out what happens with Jimmy Garoppolo. I'm just waiting. I'm just waiting to kind of really solidify my opinion on that because if all of a sudden Jimmy Garoppolo gets cut...


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[Assistant] Everybody's pointing to the Seattle Seahawks and saying he's an immediate upgrade over Smith and Locke. It makes no sense not to go get him now that he's free from the San Francisco 49ers. Even if they were gonna trade you to him, you'd be paying a premium, you'd be taking on that contract.


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[Assistant] So, for me, it's kind of just a holding pattern. Yea, sure. If Smith is the guy that starts the year, or whatever, or is gonna get all the preseason reps with the 1s, but the second Garoppolo, or somebody like Garoppolo becomes available,


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[Assistant] Seattle's the logical destination because they still need that higher ceiling guy at the quarterback spot.


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[Assistant] But not only that, like, you know, yes, that's possible, but the Jimmy Garoppolo sh- I think this is how we should say it. We need to see the Jimmy Garoppolo shoe drop. Because if all of a sudden, Garoppolo goes to Houston, is Davis Mills available?


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[Assistant] Because then I think that he's an upgrade over Geno Smith and Drew Locker. There's upside there. And then you look at even, you know, I wouldn't say this, but like if all of a sudden Baker Mayfield wins the job, does Sam Donald become available? Then do you have that discussion? Is he a better option than Geno Smith or Drew Locker? I would say no, but.


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[Assistant] You have those conversations. So if all of a sudden these guys are getting caught, people are being signed, things could shake loose, similar to what we saw, obviously not to the ceiling, but similar to what we saw in the offseason.


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[Assistant] Right. And I think Kyle Shanahan said today that he has not heard anything regarding a Jimmy Garoppolo trade. Yeah, who's calling him? Yeah, nobody. Everybody in the league knows, they just wait him out, they're gonna cut him.


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[Assistant] Who? Garoppolo or Watson? Yeah, I don't think Watson's playing. So yes, okay, fine.


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[Assistant] And the Browns organization also said that they would respect the, the ruling or whatever.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, that's I guess one of the, when we're talking about the Seattle situation, yes.


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[Assistant] The thorn in their side could be a Watson suspension which then incentivizes the Cleveland Browns to pursue Jimmy Garoppolo and then Garoppolo makes that decision. Do I go to Cleveland for one year and do that thing or do I go to Seattle? I would still say


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[Assistant] Seattle's more intriguing if I'm Garoppolo because that's a place I know, if I play well, I can stay. I don't want to be in this situation again. And if you're, if you're in- No, you're one and done in Cleveland. You are, I mean, they just gave $230 million to Deshaun Watson. You have one year. At least in Seattle.


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[Assistant] Probably not. But that's the highest of highest ceilings. And I still don't know if you stay.


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[Assistant] I mean, it was the, it was the Nick Foles situation. Like that's, it's not like it's uncommon. We've seen that. And so for me, if I'm Garoppolo, I'm looking at Seattle because that's the clear place for me right now that needs a quarterback.


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[Assistant] And you go after your old team within the division twice a year, but like that's a team that you have potential staying power and you don't want to have another situation where you're having another quarterback coming in and kind of taking you off course.


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[Assistant] Because they said he didn't announce it because he wants, or the, you know, he wants to, they're waiting for him to get his extension to do a kind of a joint thing. So that's coming down the pike too.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I think Matt Ruhl said, uh, you know, it was very, it's been very impressive about how much he's been able to grasp over the course of the past 10 days in terms of Mayfield kind of getting with the offense and obviously coming somewhat late to the party. You know, obviously he was there before training camp, but again, late to the relative off season preparation.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I mean, I think that we all thought this, like it's, I think it's Baker's kind of job to lose here. I think that Ruhl said too he wouldn't, uhm,


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[Assistant] Announce the starter until at the very least after the New England Patriots game. So that's week two of the preseason. So, you know, I'll be there next week. So I'll be able to kind of tell you what's going on when they have the joint practices with the Patriots.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Oh yeaah. So there's a lot of storylines coming out of that one. So that'll be interesting. But again, Mayfield, you don't acquire Mayfield.


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[Assistant] And not give him the inside track here. Like if you were confident enough in Donald, he would have to really stink next to Sam Donald for him not to be the week one quarterback.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. I think they said they're both going to play. So, you know, read with that what you will.


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[Assistant] But I don't think it's out of bounds, because I think, I was reading the Charlotte Observer and it said that he was getting a bunch of balls batted down at the line of scrimmage. So it's like, that's part of the game, that's part of his package.


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[Assistant] What does he mean by that exactly? He means that Baker's got the job. Yeah, okay. I mean, yeah.


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[Assistant] But uhm, cause again, you could just, like, cause again, like, we don't know, I think we talked about this last week, we still don't really know, like, what the dress rehearsal week is now, right? Like, is it week one, is it week three, is it week two, you know?


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[Assistant] The one thing that I think is interesting with the Panthers in terms of, like you were saying, like, rules shouldn't just name his guy right away.


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[Assistant] There is a case to be made though to say like, alright, you should have your guy at least


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[Assistant] Somewhat figured out midway through the preseason, I would say, because you probably have the hottest seat in the NFL, at least one of them. So you might as well prepare your, if you know, if you know you're going with Baker, give him as many of the reps as humanly possible so you can ensure yourself that you get off to a hot start and you're not fearing for your job in week two.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's also not like it's like Pittsburgh where you have a first round pick sitting behind the guy with the Trubisky where it's like, all right, like what are we doing? I think we all, people saw what Darnold was last year.


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[Assistant] I mean like, Lance is the closest thing we got to like a first year guy, but obviously he started some games last year too.


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[Assistant] Yeah, obviously last year there was a ton.


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[Assistant] Uhm, even before that was, was Burrow and Tua and... Did Tua start around the gate? I forget.


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[Assistant] You know, there was no, it was not like a Lawrence Clearcut number one pick, Kyler number one pick type of situations where it makes sense to start them week one. Kenny Pickett's the only one that went in the first round and we were just obviously just talking about him. Like no sure thing that we might not even see him this season. We might not see him until the bye if Trabisky hangs onto it. So, you know, it's just kind of one of those fluky years, but that's interesting.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he did not start week one, is that right?


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[Assistant] I think we're getting to a point too, just like on a bigger, big picture quarterback thing, like we are getting to a point now where like all these teams like have quarterbacks. So with these draft pools that are coming in.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's gonna get really interesting, like, you know, like Jimmy Gar- like the Jimmy Garoppolo's, the Ryan Tannehills of the world.


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[Assistant] They're gonna be struggling to find jobs, especially when those teams like Seattle and, you know, obviously San Francisco's got their young guy, like.


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[Assistant] You're gonna get a point here where these young quarterbacks are taking over, they're cheaper, and you'd rather bank on that upside than try to get a retread.


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[Assistant] Like what the Cardinals did when they went from Rosen to Kyler. I mean like, yes, that can happen sometimes, but...


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[Assistant] Yeah, like if, if all, like, what's an interesting one is like if Chicago gets the number one overall.


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[Assistant] But then, but then he immediately becomes the guy, you know, like, if Justin, let's say they get the number one pick, Justin Fields becomes available, Garlow's market next year, or, you know, uh, Tannehill's market, if all of a sudden they decide to move off them, they all get bumped down again. So all of these veteran guys,


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[Assistant] You know, this is an, this would be a special case with the former first round pick, you know, going into year three in fields being available.


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[Assistant] So like, you know, those veterans that typically would get jobs might not have them.


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[Assistant] This year, uhm, I will go Taekwon Thornton. I think that he's, I think he's actually, like, believe it or not, a Patriots wide receiver draft pick is gonna be good. I think he's gonna be good.


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[Assistant] I mean, look, we have a podcast scheduled for 2 PM. Uh, we're actually it's for.


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[Assistant] Um, live as soon as we get done with this quarterback podcast. So, um,


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[Assistant] If you're watching this one, stick around on the podcast channel, such your alerts will get notified when we go live. If you don't feel like listening to all the quarterback chatter, um, and, uh, and for that podcast breach, I'll, before we fire up, I'll.


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[Assistant] I'll actually make a little cocktail in this uh, solo cup to enjoy it on this lovely.


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[Assistant] Friday afternoon. Anyway, let's get to the top 10 cornerbacks. Now did you, uhm, did you actually do a list yourself?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I keep, Gmail, Google is being like super annoying about switching back and forth at this, uh, anyway, alright, here we go, I got it now.


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[Assistant] I actually did see that come across my, uh, come across my email and I was like, yeah.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's see. Oh! Okay, my defense! Oh, Top 10 Kickers is today's newsletter.


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[Assistant] Let's get into it. Alright, so Patrick, I'm going to, how do you want to do this? We have Patrick Walker's, uh, list from cbsports.com.


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[Assistant] Let's dive in. John breeches top 10 cornerbacks at number 10. Darius sleigh of the Philadelphia Eagles. Number nine. We're going to just knock out the top, the bottom three here. Um,


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[Assistant] I think they're kind of interesting. One, the veteran and sleigh and then two, your two younger guys really are Marlon Humphrey and Denzel Ward, uh, with the Ravens and the Browns at 10, nine and eight.


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[Assistant] That's, Bill Barnwell always does a great job, I think, explaining, like, when you talk about Pro Bowl snubs, like, if you're going to complain about somebody not being on the list, you really need to have someone who, or you have to have someone who you're taking off the list to replace them with. Like, you can't just be like, that guy should be a Pro Bowler, because you can't, you can't just, you know, you can't expand it forever.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was just looking at the PFF grades forum. Uh, Darius Slay checks in at fourth overall.


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[Assistant] Uh, booyed by his, uh, he's actually, his run defense actually brings him down a little bit, which is kind of funny. 84.5, uh, rating in coverage, which is third best in the NFL. Um, you know, and like that's hard to do too, like when you talk about


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[Assistant] You know, if you factor in a run defense grade, like run defense is important, of course, and you want to be able to tackle, but like, I mean, I'm, for me in a league where, you know,


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[Assistant] He's flying all over my screen. Anywho, yeaah, I agree with you on that completely. I'm gonna kill him if he gets anywhere close to me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Denzel Ward ranked 11th in, uh, PFS overall grade. Certainly. I mean, nothing wrong with him being on there. He's actually, he's, he's, he's, um, I remember interviewing Denzel Ward.


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[Assistant] But he's, he's like our size and he's like smaller than me. So I guess maybe the injury concerns are a little bit of a problem, but certainly, uhm, as well as he's played, like he lived up to the contract, uh, I think, I mean, you know, at least his, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think, I think justifies the contract that the Browns gave him, unlike most of the other contracts that the Browns have given, although they did essentially.


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[Assistant] Reset the quarterback, they reset the market basically on like three different positions with, uh, with David and Joku, Deshaun Watson and Denzel Ward, Jerry Alexander, of course, top Ward, uh, I believe after that. And, but, you know, Ward went above Jalen Ramsey on average annual value and the Browns were just willing to do that because they don't want to lose good players on their roster, okay? Can't really blame them.


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[Assistant] But it also looked like all four of those guys were just going to, I mean, be like cornerstones to the Browns and you know, they didn't.


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[Assistant] You know, they, Baker's gone out of their own doing as is, uh, like Corbett, they could have brought back, right? And they trade Corbett.


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[Assistant] And then Humphrey, uh, yeaah, I mean, look, I think, uh, Humphrey and that entire, the entire Ravens team, I think, um,


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[Assistant] Is just really a prime for a bounce back situation, uh, in, in 2022. All right, next up.


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[Assistant] Uh, cause I believe I should have included him in this because I'm pretty sure Trinavius White was...


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[Assistant] Nah, I'm wrong. Yeah, no. Today, Miss White was 2017, right? In the 2017 draft. Yeah, yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, am I wrong? And Xavier Howard, uh, Xavier Woods, no, Xavier Howard, Xavier Howard was not, or was he?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Marlon Huff, Richard Davis White, Marshall and Lattimore, uh, certainly. Yep. That's right. I mean, a really, a really good draft in terms of quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, uh, just trying to make sure I don't miss another person. I'm sure I am, whatever.


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[Assistant] Of course the bing will somehow get in. My point being is that like, Trey White to me, you know, the bills traded, uh, with the, the bills traded with the, the chiefs, right? Yeaah. I mean, the bills traded with the chiefs.


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[Assistant] And it's kind of crazy if you think about it. I never really processed it this way because nobody killed the bills for trading down. But she traded it out to get Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] They got Trudevius White out of it and so like nobody's killed him for it because Trudevius White's really good and they got an extra first round pick which they used to go up and get Josh Allen. But it is interesting that the one impediment to the Bills making it back, making it out of the AFC is the Chiefs who they handed Patrick Mahomes to on a silver platter, uh, in the year prior to them drafting Josh Allen. Now again, Allen is fantastic.


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[Assistant] Alan and Trey White, you know, I think you take those, like, if the bills, if the chiefs called the bills and said, hey, we'll trade you Tredavious White and John, and we'll trade you Patrick Mahone for Tredavious White.


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[Assistant] Uh, Joe Davis white is, you know, look, he's, I think he shoots up. If you're picking a candidate to shoot up into the top three out of this list at the bottom of this list, um, you know, I think it's him because he's coming off of injury and elite player when he's healthy and.


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[Assistant] Uh, certainly somebody who, uh, should have a big bounce back season. Marshall and Lattimore are also part of that team.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, you know, it's interesting because we were doing, um, we did the offensive line rankings or the tackle rankings with Jeff Kerr earlier this week and sort of talked about that 2017 draft class for the Saints. You know, Marcus Williams gone now.


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[Assistant] You know, you have Ryan Ramchak, uh, I guess Alex Anzaloni is gone and Trey Hendrickson gone too. But I mean, you still have Ramchak, Kamara and Lattimore. Really, I think.


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[Assistant] Yeah, probably the biggest three pieces from that draft class who helped, you know.


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[Assistant] Who helped launch this team back into the Super Bowl contention after they'd gone seven to nine three straight years.


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[Assistant] You know, this, he's gonna be asked to be an even bigger piece for the Saints, I think, now that you have Sean Payton gone and they're really, I mean, with


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[Assistant] I was talking to a buddy about, um, dynasty rankings, like who he should pick. And he was looking at, uh, Garrett Wilson of the Jets.


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[Assistant] And I personally, I would take, he could do Garrett Wilson or Traylon Burks or Jameson Williams.


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[Assistant] And I pointed out that, you know, while Garrett Wilson might be the guy for the Jets, he's also.


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[Assistant] You know, gonna have to go up against Xavier Howard and Trudevius White and whoever Bill Belichick is throwing at him, you know, six out of this 17 games per year. And that doesn't, is not going to make life easy for a rookie, even if you got a pedigree. So yeah, Howard, I have no problem with it, with the positioning there.


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[Assistant] And then Lattimore, same thing. He's the top five quarterback in the NFL. I think it's a little interesting when you start looking at your top four.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I'm with you there, uh, looking at your, I said the top four. I think it's interesting too. Now I'm not going to, I'm not going to bash Patrick Walker for his list, but he does have Trayvon Diggs at number five, uh, as a Cowboys homer. You know, I think that's interesting that you don't have him in your, uh, in your top 10.


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[Assistant] JC Jackson, you guys both have at in the top five though, monster year for him. You have it with number four.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jair Alexander, AJ Terrell at number two and Jalen Ramsey at number one. Um, I think Packers fans will probably tweet you if they read your newsletter complaining that Terrell is too, but man, I mean, what a pick by the Falcons. I thank God CD lamb is good.


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[Assistant] Because if he wasn't, I would be getting roasted left and right by Falcons fans, because I ripped, I mean, because I ripped the Falcons for taking Terrell over CD Lamb, uh, at the time, and, I mean, frankly, it doesn't look like a bad pick at all.


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[Assistant] I know I'm not supposed to talk about the commercials because it's an audio podcast too, but like, if you're watching on YouTube.


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[Assistant] I mean, we are on a heater commercial run, thanks to being part of the Paramount.


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[Assistant] We work for Paramount. Uhm, and uh, and, you know, we have...


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[Assistant] No, no, no, with uh, Brian Cranston, the lottery movie on there, like the more, like, uh, like.


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[Assistant] I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing because I was like out here like, it was very still out here in Costa Rica.


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[Assistant] Out, outside, so it is now much cooler. So shout out to Car.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and you can see his big giant deck behind me, uh, for, uh, for, for, for bringing the breeze, cause it's very still in Raleigh right now.


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[Assistant] That's right. Uh, the J.C. Jackson thing I agree with you completely is really interesting. Uhm, you know, you have in LA this team that's so hyped up and like, I don't think that J.C. Jackson


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[Assistant] Is gonna be, like he's, he's, he's gonna be asked to do a lot. And uhm.


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[Assistant] You look at Secondary and they've got J.C. Jackson, they've got Bryce Callahan in the, in the, in the slot. Uhm, you know, they've got, uh, oh god, how am I blanking on, uhm,


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[Assistant] He can make that, like that secondary should be good enough where it's not going to expose JC Jackson if he is a product of Belichick. But I would always be concerned if I'm somebody who is paying.


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[Assistant] A former patriot that Bill Belichick declined a franchise tag.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, and J.C. Jackson, it's just like, he sort of hung his hat on these, on, you know, piling up interceptions and those aren't always the sort of thing that you can guarantee consistency on a year to year basis.


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[Assistant] You could, like Drake London, we don't, yeah, he's a rookie. We don't know how it's going to pan out if he's going to be, um, you know, a foundational piece, but I think certainly you would take it right now just based on where they draft him and his production and his sort of.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, pedigree coming out of college. Um, Caleb McGarry, you're probably tossing in there. I don't think they picked up the option on Lindstrom. Maybe I had that backwards. Kyle Pitts, obviously a foundational piece, but then on defense, like it's just AJ Terrell.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I mean, even Grady Jarrett was like drafting 2015. I think he's awesome still, but if you were...


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[Assistant] If you were, if you were starting a franchise, you would, you would want Grady Jarrett on there, but probably not at his cost and his age. You know, you know what I'm saying? Like it wouldn't be shocking if they traded him mid-season if it worked out contractually.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jalen Ramsey, having anybody else at one would be kind of crazy because Ramsey is just freaking awesome.


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[Assistant] Even if it's like somebody who likes the team on here is being like nice and taking time out to be the guest. Like, uh, if you're the, um, if you're the, uh, if you're the Dallas Cowboys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I'm not trying to like bash Zeke Elliott or anything like that because he lived up to the like, he sort of, he didn't justify the pick, but like the play, the way he played, you know, they went to the, they won the division and, um, you know, with him and Dak playing so well their rookie year and it's like,


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[Assistant] But the reality of drafting a running back that high is it's just simply a difficult position to sustain the level of play because of the wear and tear that you're getting.


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[Assistant] Patrick had anybody, AJ Terrell at 9 is way too low for him on his list.


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[Assistant] Diggs ranked 80th on PFF's rankings, 65th, uhm, on a, uh, on a, uh, in terms of coverage. I mean, he ranked below, was he even the highest ranked Dallas? Uh, probably not. Anyway.


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[Assistant] Uh, I would definitely have Tyrell on his list. He had him at nine. I mean, I'm not putting Tyrell.


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[Assistant] Trayvon Diggs, as good as he was last year in terms of intercepting the ball, and as good, you know, he's coming to upside. I think everybody's taking him over to Trudevius White. Assuming Trudevius White is back in healthy.


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[Assistant] I don't know how you hang on the YouTube channel. Anyway, there's gonna be a new show that pops up in a second. We're doing Mailbag. It'll be released in audio form on Monday, but I'm gonna go make myself a cocktail. And, uh, in my red solo cup because I'm out of water now. And then, uh, and then we'll be, uh, we'll be back for the second show.


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[Assistant] Another live show in a few minutes. If you're listening to it, check it out on Monday. Uhm, and if you're listening to the podcast on Friday, have a great holiday weekend. Talk to you guys in a little bit.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Facebook's podcast, CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Will Brinton. I'm your host.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know what? I don't know what day this is supposed to be. We'll say Thursday. I think Diva even told me it was a Thursday breach. We're going to talk putters and kickers. So like who cares what day it is? It's it's it's evergreen because it's great content. That's what I mean.


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[Assistant] I was, uh, I'm actually still using my, uh, my Carter family backdrop. I've got my Carter family hat on representing our tailgate club. And, uh, I actually have a tailgate chair that I'm on that keeps disappearing and revering. Cause I, I couldn't in time for this podcast get my, my, well, so my new desk chair that's coming in is didn't end arriving on time.


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[Assistant] And so I was like, all right, I'll just buy a crappy one from Target and put it together.


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[Assistant] I was like furiously trying to put it together leading up to this podcast and just could not get it done in time. So that's why I'm sitting in this bizarre chair.


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[Assistant] No, it was just like a $20 charity target. Like I'm sure throughout my, it's definitely going to cause some like long-term injury to my body, but that's okay.


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[Assistant] Well, I've been sitting on this box for three days and I'm getting tired of it. So I'm just going to buy a crappy chair and put it together. Uh, anywho, let's talk some punters and kickers. Obviously I have the rundown in front of me and prepared to ask you first about your number 10 kicker, which is where we'll start. And that kicker is Nick Falk.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, we don't want to reveal who the number one quarterback is. It's like, well, it's Patrick Mahomes again. We know that. Or, you know, it's like, I mean, it's, it's.


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[Assistant] I'm kind of shocked about your number eight kicker because it's your boy Big Mac, Evan McPherson. The, uh, the young study propelled your, like, you were, you were conf, I don't know how, I mean, I was pretty confident the Rams were going to beat the Bengals in the Super Bowl. I mean, it was, I mean, look, it was a great game, close game. Um, yeah, but like, it was a close game, right? Wasn't it a close game?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I was like, wait a minute, I think about a different, when the Rams and the Rams had to run, like the Bucks game was insane. They throttled the Cardinals and the Bucks game was insane and the 49ers game was insane. It was a great, you know, fun playoff run. The Bengals games are all crazy.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, I mean that's right, because the iran donald's actually a borough league. Uh, anyway, my point being is that you were convinced


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[Assistant] On the Pixix podcast show at TBS Sports HQ set from their rooftop.


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[Assistant] Very cool scene, very close to happening. It didn't ultimately happen. I'm a little surprised you didn't rank it 8.


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[Assistant] 7, 6, and 5. Jake Elliott, Matt Gay, and Daniel Carlson. Does that seem fair?


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[Assistant] You don't want to beg out of the playoffs as a kicker because of a hip injury, right? Nobody's going to respect that.


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[Assistant] No doubt about it. Daniel Carlson has been a, uh, he doesn't look like he's gonna like bomb kicks, but he's got a great leg and he's incredibly accurate and has been a fantastic kicker for, for, uh, for multiple cities, I believe.


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[Assistant] Uh, alright, the, uh, top four kickers.


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[Assistant] I don't mean to like lump all together, I just, I was sort of trying to pick a point where I was like, okay, let's say, you know what, not top four.


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[Assistant] Three, two, two, three, and four. Okay. Because there's no, there's no, like you said, one is a, it's like a given.


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[Assistant] Wait, but it's also like just a huge, there's a massive drop off to anyone else. It's in terms of like, what you expect from the meet, see, week in and week out, season in and season out, year in and year out, whatever it is, uhm, you know, they're like,


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[Assistant] Number one Surefire Hall of Fame kicker, I feel like.


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[Assistant] But two, three, it's like, again, it's Justin Tucker, you know, we don't need to hide behind him, but like, you know, when you think about who is the second best kicker, who's the third best kicker.


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[Assistant] Right, and number one, we talked about it about, you know, we talked about it twice already, but I mean, like, you know, you gotta give him his... I don't really get to give him his flowers thing. Uhm, do you know where that came from? Why people say it?


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[Assistant] Anyway, uhm, so you give them their flowers so they can still smell them.


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[Assistant] Anyway, Justin Tucker, the number one kicker, no brand of choice, right?


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah. Ready to give us flowers, Breach. Alright, let's take a break when we come back. Hunters! Next!


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeah, I don't even know where to start with this.


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[Assistant] You just want to rip, who just missed I guess?


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[Assistant] Well, you know what, I get laser locked on, on number three because... My background, AJ Cole, maybe.


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[Assistant] That is huge. Alright, at number three, we'll talk about him separately, but AJ Cole, my guy out of NC State.


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[Assistant] Maybe the greatest Australian football player in the history of football?


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[Assistant] Well, by the time we wrap it up, it'll be exactly 40 minutes. Very impressive. You wrote it. I wrote a tight ship around here, Breach. Everybody knows that. Look, no, this is a good podcast. We're like, I'm not gonna.


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[Assistant] Alright, go check that out from our boy John Breach. Breach is always a pleasure, buddy. We will talk to you soon. For Breach, I'm Brinson. See you guys later!


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[Assistant] Taskmaster. Someone who is the master of giving people tasks.


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[Assistant] That's a conversation I would have. I joked about this earlier. I'd have to have my 15 year old son. Like he would buy something to think it would fix something and then he's like, oh, you have to put it up? Yeah, you got to put it up. Brinson Jr. That's why I should have named him.


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[Assistant] I found this is, this is born, it's not morbid, but it, it's something that


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[Assistant] Ain't got no job. Alright, I don't know if I'm gonna ask this one. Ain't got bleep to do. Ain't got bleep to do. Alright, I'll ask this one.


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[Assistant] I watched it like, uh, six months ago. I was just bored. I was sitting in my basement. It's great, right? I mean, it holds up for sure.


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[Assistant] Of course, absolutely. Yea, no, without a doubt. And I've been rewatching Veep again, so uhm, the boss is Ken. He's also in Veep.


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[Assistant] By the way, Dietrich Bader's in office space, also in Veep. He's the next door neighbor, uh, of the main character.


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[Assistant] Do you know... The sweater people that you keep watching? The sweater people? My morning jacket? My answer to everything, my morning jacket.


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[Assistant] I play guitar as a form of therapy, so I can teach you how to play those songs.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, 100% acoustic guitar. Why would I have an electric guitar as a grown man sitting in my basement?


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[Assistant] Uh, no, I played my own special take on all the fish songs. It's a five hour, five hour affair, live on YouTube.


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[Assistant] Oh, uhm, right now I'm learning Angelus by Elliott Smith. Elliott Smith, by the way, do not listen to the lyrics.


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[Assistant] The soundtrack of Will Goodwill Honey is a lot of Elliot Smith songs, so I've always liked that song. It's incredibly hard to play. Uh, but I got it all day, so, you know. Uh, there's that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, what else? Oh, uh, hey Joe, play that.


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[Assistant] Hey, hey, what can you do? It's a pretty easy song to play. Uh, that's a fun song to play. Okay. Yeah, Jimi Hendrix isn't bad, it turns out.


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[Assistant] Cause 106 was the hard rock station in Raleigh at the time. I think you said it switched over to something else.


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[Assistant] They moved down the dial a little bit. Cause G-105 was the pop music, and uhm, I don't know.


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[Assistant] You don't hear him a lot, but I, I don't, I don't know what's, I mean, you obviously are indifferent.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I agree. And I ended up playing, just to bring this full circle, I basically played the music I used to listen to in the 80s, 90s, a little to 2000s, aughts. That's about it. Like I don't play, I don't think I play anything recent because I don't know what's going on recently.


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[Assistant] Do you play any bare-necked ladies? No. No. Uh, oh, I play some, uh, no, no, some Foo Fighters. I play a little bit of that.


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[Assistant] And as I said to you before, you like to lean into awkwardness and anger, whereas I, like most people tend to run away from it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we'll see. That's a, that's a, that's a box of rainbows.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, his friends are solid. They're good kids. I like them. Uhm, he's just,


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[Assistant] He's just like a 15 year old boy in that he's like dumb. And all 15 year old boys are dumb. Like he's no dumber than anyone else. They just...


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[Assistant] They don't understand what you're saying. You have to repeat things 10, 15, 20 times. You get a lot of blank stares. He's got his, you know, he always has one air pod in. So he has, it's always the one facing you somehow. So he's got to take that out to hear what you said when you're basically telling him to do something you told him to do already 50 times. It's a whole thing.


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[Assistant] In the scheme of things, like, he's not doing drugs, he's not, you know, fornicating as far as I know. No, I'm out off of him.


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[Assistant] This is a one way mouth off conversation and he just sort of listens to it and goes on about his day. And that's, I think that makes me angry that he doesn't even respond. At least you have the decency to say something that makes me even angrier. All right, here we go. First, would you rather.


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[Assistant] To get this mailbag Friday started off that you might hear on Monday depending on when you listen.


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[Assistant] Would you rather always pick your nose immediately before shaking hands or constantly have one hand, including your wrist down your pants?


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[Assistant] That's amazing. I love that someone had to write this down on a sheet of paper as part of their job.


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[Assistant] Before you answer, there's a little note here I haven't been reading. This note says, in Indonesia, the penalty for masturbation is decapitation. So just keep that in mind.


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[Assistant] Anyway, what's your, what's your, uh, um, pick your nose right before you shake someone's hand all the time or always have your hands, including your wrist down your britches.


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[Assistant] Even if it's a fist bump, that's still weird if it's still with the finger that you picked your nose.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I think if you have your hand down your pants, people don't necessarily get used to it, but it's not as big a shock as you sticking your finger halfway up your face.


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[Assistant] I mean, when we're, we have to get together for work purposes, not when you're, you know, below the camera isn't showing what you're up to. But I mean.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so think about it this way. So we all were in LA for the Super Bowl. Let's say the moment you landed,


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[Assistant] You had your hands down your pants. You did the podcast on set, on air, on HQ, hand down your pants. Went to dinner, hand down your pants. Got in the Uber to go to your friend's house in Pacific Palisades.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm just, yeah, that's the first half. The second half is, okay, we had Kavon Thibodeau on set. I picked my nose before shaking his hand. We had Ray Lewis on set.


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[Assistant] It's like a punt. That's actually something about a punt, I feel like.


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[Assistant] I think if you leave your hand, one hand down your pants and you shake the other hand, it's even weirder.


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[Assistant] You refuse to take your hand out of your pants for some reason.


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[Assistant] So I think yeah, you can use whatever hand you want, but I think the rules as they're written is that they have to have to stay down forever.


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[Assistant] Alright, so that's a would-you-rather. By the way, once again, shout out to Brunson for the last podcast telling people that...


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[Assistant] Joe Sanchez requests a hundred bucks. He's degenerate sports betting behavior. Uh, let's see.


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[Assistant] Derek Scholl requests $100 and he sent me a reminder because he wants to have a bachelor party.


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[Assistant] I don't know what kind of hundred dollar bachelor party he's having, but hopefully it works out.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I think that's, that's caught up.


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[Assistant] I was going to say, I wonder how many times people accidentally click the fill request button.


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[Assistant] One cent, one dollar, whatever, if it makes you feel good. By the way, I wanted Sam C to let him know that I did get his request. Or actually, he gave a dollar. I should make that clear.


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[Assistant] Sam C gave a dollar to the Tattoo Fund and also wanted to be known that he never got his Brenton Sucks hat. I passed that information on the Debo. So fingers crossed, Sam C, you will get your hat.


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[Assistant] I do love the fact that you realize that this, you're basically dunking on yourself, but you are still going to finish the joke to take a shot of depot.


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[Assistant] A long way. Harvard's actually like two hours from Stanford, I think. It's a good little hump.


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[Assistant] I like the fact that that could be possibly your tattoo if, uh, you won the best podcasts in the world award.


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[Assistant] It's like when you have to babysit your, your three year old grand kid, he's a huge butthole, but you don't have to do it once a month. You're not doing it every day.


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[Assistant] They have to hire someone who has no previous, uh, interactions with Wilbreth.


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[Assistant] Well, this is pretty, pretty easy to start, Sean Payton.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think Robert Sala is fine. I think Zach Wilson might be on a hotter seat than Robert Sala for measuring temperature.


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[Assistant] Over under, here you go, over under one and a half coaches in AFC.


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[Assistant] You would take the over one and a half? I mean, it's, I don't feel comfortable about it.


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[Assistant] I don't know where they're coming from. Assuming...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm not sure about Rivera, cause I mean, we don't know what's happening with Dan Snyder. Snyders, Snyders. There are a lot of variables that could end up messing things up in Washington.


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[Assistant] I would say that maybe Nick Sirianni, things go like terribly in Philly. I wonder if they would like, they would reconsider. Again, Sean Payton is waiting in the wings type of situation.


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[Assistant] He was not happy with Nick at the start of the last season, then he sort of got his act together.


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[Assistant] He's fired is such a... Well, Tivo wasn't happy with him to start last season.


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[Assistant] What if there's 6 and 11 and Sean Payton wants that job? Where are you on that?


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[Assistant] Oh my gosh. I'm going to set this to two and a half right now in the NFC South. That's a good number. Two and a half. It might be three and a half.


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[Assistant] Well, I was going down the, I was going down the last year's first to last list. So it was Tampa, New Orleans, Atlanta, then Carolina. I'm going to set it at three. What are you taking on three?


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[Assistant] Uh, it's gotta be a half. Two and a half or three and a half? It's gotta be two and a half. Two and a half's too easy. No one's taking the under on two and a half.


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[Assistant] He might get fired if they go to the playoffs. I'm not even joking.


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[Assistant] If they go nine and eight and they lose in the playoffs like the Titans did to the Bengals, he's getting fired.


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[Assistant] Pete Carroll might retire, so that, that, that, in this case, that includes retirements. Uhm.


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[Assistant] He doesn't want to retire, but I think he may be asked, maybe they'll push him out to, to get more progressive in terms of...


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[Assistant] I'm going to throw Arizona in there. I know he's just on a deal clip date, but I don't know if that matters. They tried to Josh Rosen in the first round and then, you know, 12 months later they moved on.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, Arizona has an asterisk. I mean, that feels almost, that feels perhaps as far-fetched as any names I'll mention. I'll put, I think it's all NFC teams. And you can choose to order Atlanta, Carolina, and then I'll put Washington on there too.


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[Assistant] And like, if he's not there, it's because he doesn't want to be there.


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[Assistant] I mean, you mentioned the Jets, I don't think so. They're not gonna, I don't think they're gonna win four games. If they do, it'll be on Zach Wilson, not Robert Salah as the reason why, but maybe. Is Woody Johnson still running things, or is this his brother? Yeaah, Woody's back. Alright. So who knows?


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[Assistant] Houston could be in there. I keep mentioning Washington and the Jets, but you don't respond.


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[Assistant] The Jets draft last year was Soss Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson, and Brice Hall in the first two rounds.


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[Assistant] But five is a lot. What about the candidates? So Sean Payton's number one, uh, after that.


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[Assistant] Yeah. It's hard to hire him until he's that lawsuit's cleared up there.


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[Assistant] I don't know any of the young whippersnappers. I know Prisco and JJ seem to be up on those sort of things.


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[Assistant] She's something to, to keep in mind. So Raheem Morris is another name, former coach who's now sort of made his way back. Raheem Morris is good, that's a good call. So Raheem, D'Amico, Byron.