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[Assistant] Uh, and I said, okay, I watched them continue to drive more into it and get more stuck. And then water started in the car, which they eventually got out. So.


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[Assistant] I was just more, it was a smaller car, and I was curious how they even got into the ravine in the first place. They're obviously driving too fast on an off ramp, but I digress.


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[Assistant] I thought Hosteller, but I wasn't 100% positive. But anyway, look, by the way, I realized we're like a long way from that, but I don't know. I think, I think Baker brings them a little extra juice. I think he's fired up. He's still headbutton guys without a helmet on. There's something to say about that. That's stupid. Yeah, but I don't know. It's the kind of meathead stuff that I think McVeigh is kind of into.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just get a sense that Matt Stafford's closer to being done than maybe he would be willing to admit. I mean, he played really banged up this season. There's also like an element of like, you know, he got what he wanted. Like he came to LA to get a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] You know, what more does he want at this point in time? He's made a ton of money. Sure. And I feel like that's more of a question for like Sean McVeigh, like what does he want?


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[Assistant] Because if he wants to continue to do this, and obviously he flirted with TV networks for a reason, you know, after the Super Bowl and really contemplated that, he probably wants to be with a guy who's gonna come in.


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[Assistant] Like rearing to go, like with something to prove with a gigantic boulder on his shoulder. And that's Baker. So I just...


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[Assistant] Again, maybe this is just in my fantasy world of how I could see this playing out, but I think if you're Baker, yeah, you want to sign to stay there, but you'd also be trying to do that. Maybe you see even put it in a clause and be like, look, I'm doing this. If Sean's here, if Sean leaves and retires and goes to the TV or something, then then all of a sudden it triggers something in my contract where I become a free agent because I'm leaving if that that guy's not here.


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[Assistant] By the way, I mean, a spinal contusion, concussion, like all that stuff.


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[Assistant] Just put him in that arm bar choke thing around his neck. No one calls that anymore.


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[Assistant] Put some bolt-and-bore material out there, that's what I think. Cause, uh, I'll say this about Jalen Hurst.


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[Assistant] You know, he's, he's like, uhm, it's like machine learning, right? Like, it just gets smarter and smarter the more opportunities you get to learn. Like, that's how he is as a quarterback. Like, the more reps he gets, the better he gets.


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[Assistant] It's been like that since Alabama to Oklahoma, Oklahoma to the Eagles, and that's how it is now. And he's in a great system for him. Uh, I'm not saying he's gonna be able to excel in everyone's system, but I do think, you know, in this system,


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[Assistant] It's not just the system. It is Jalen Hurts. It's his skill set and how they're able to utilize his skill set, so.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and look they're talented as it gets at wide receiver and on the offensive line and in their backfield and their defense now with the additions they made, especially the veteran guys who I think are stopping to run better the past four games.


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[Assistant] But I just look and I go, yeah, like I, I don't think that's just a system. I think that's Jalen Hurts and the improvements he's made. So here's my


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[Assistant] Those guys, and I know they don't want to run the football, and the Chiefs don't look at, uhm,


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[Assistant] You get them running side to side early. You get them worn down. You get them trying to rush upfield, then have to redirect back down after a screen. You get them moving like that. You tire them out to the second half.


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[Assistant] You naturally are thinking, okay, there's space there. Where the Eagles and most defensive coordinators get you is, they take one of those interior guys, or even sometimes guys on the left side of the formation, and they'll rush them all the way around the outside to the right side of the defensive formation, you know, offensive left.


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[Assistant] And that's where you kind of get that rush that comes around late and it then gets the quarterback used flushed out of the pocket or moved too much. That happens all the time. And it's just, it's a natural progression for a lot of quarterbacks when you're trying to feel space in the pocket.


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[Assistant] The reality is, it still seems like at least once they've been in the playoffs, there's still something there. So, how do you take the pressure off his shoulders? You literally run the football with the best offensive line in the league, you know, utilize their size, uhm, how talented they are and the way they match up up front.


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[Assistant] That takes the fight to Chris Jones, who's had just a monster playoff so far. Frank Clark, same thing, you know, he wants to pin his ears back and just rush upfield. That's been his M.O. every time they go to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] How are the Eagles and their coaching staff as a whole?


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[Assistant] That's what the Eagles are capable of doing is dominating this game physically. I think you want to set the tone early, run the football, get Jalen Hurts going with some easy completions before you start wanting to take those big shots downfield.


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[Assistant] They understand how to condition themselves not to get sucked into all that. So, I, I looked, I don't think Jalen Hurts is going to have any issue whatsoever if he comes out and is rusty. As far as him not being focused or his being a too big of an environment, I think it's to be more of a byproduct of his shoulder and maybe what Steve Spagnola is doing with some of the looks that he's giving him. I mean, it's, it's, it's young secondary, right?


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[Assistant] In the interior, I think the world of Lane Johnson and Jordan Milata at the tackle spot.


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[Assistant] And so you'll see, you know, this look where you basically have this offensive line that has to make a choice. They either have to take that uncovered right guard and slide him to the right tackle to give help, or they have to slide him to the left and you have to leave that right tackle isolated. So that would be Lane Johnson in this case. Lane Johnson's up for the task.


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[Assistant] Hurts isn't the same type of thrower, and especially with a shoulder that's injured, if you can cut the field in half.


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[Assistant] You know, he's the type of athletic quarterback that, you know, some guys, you don't mind putting them out there on a wide nine and just cutting them loose, let Frank Clark go get it. And that quarterback should be hanging out the back of that pocket.


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[Assistant] With Hertz, he'll step up, he'll take off. So you're gonna be a little more, you know, measuring your approach, and then those edge rushers are gonna know, they might try to speed rush hard upfield, and then they're gonna counter back inside, knowing that if they wrap back around, Hertz might be stepping up, trying to run inside the pocket, and they'll be there waiting for him to give him a big old hug.


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[Assistant] Is the guy who, you know how some people are visited by the ghost of Christmas past? Brinson is the ghost of other people's misery. He will visit you and rub your misery in your face. Uh, he will send me a cut picture with Andy Dalton's head.


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[Assistant] Uuuh, I feel like last time we targeted, it's like 6 and 20.


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[Assistant] I mean, I knew last time we talked about it was just like 3 or 4 weeks ago, so it was on the top.


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[Assistant] Wait, hold on, hold on. Let me cut in because Brenton not, not pinning anything bad on him. At 10.34 Brenton rejiggles the run down so that Dolan's eating


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[Assistant] I mean, he was lights out and obviously we will talk about the button.


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[Assistant] Having watched Andy Dalton play more primetime games than I care to admit, or probably anyone, more than anyone alive besides maybe Andy Dalton's mom and Andy Dalton's dad and Andy Dalton's wife.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, not everyone wants to sit through an 80 dollar primetime game, Brenton.


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[Assistant] People usually, uh, mail it in starting about halftime when his team is trailing by two touchdowns and you start surfing and start watching, uh, a baking competition on Food Network.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's what usually happens when people are watching Andy Dalton Primetime games. But no, I mean, we're talking about, you guys mentioned drop passes. He only threw eight incompletions. Probably four of them were drops. If he gets those, he probably ends 24 or 28 for 300 yards. If Tastin Hill doesn't have that ball knocked out, we're talking about Andy Dalton, the hero. Uh, a Lavae's drop was,


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[Assistant] You know, unexpected. It was just, it was really weird. It seemed like the Saints weren't in control this whole entire time. And for them to lose and it not be Andy Dalton's fault, uh, and you know, for the defense to just kind of melt down at the end after just holding the Buccaneers in check, they absolutely shut down. They suffocated the Buccaneers offense for, uh,


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[Assistant] 55 minutes and then just melt down for 5 minutes and you lose.


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[Assistant] Brady's not throwing his coach under the bus. We all saw his facial expressions during the game and, uh, Brady was trying to be the coach on the field like, yo man, we're going for this. And he got vetoed.


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[Assistant] Look at those touchdown passes. Two of them this year. Had the one with nine seconds left against the Rams, three seconds left against the Saints. Latest go-head touchdown pass in Tom Brady's career. Uh, you know, I really felt like, it's funny that Brady was out there kind of, uh, you know, some people throw their coach under the bus.


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[Assistant] Brady put Todd Bowles on top of the bus, then got in the bus and drove it and said, come on coach, we're going to go ahead and win this game. Because I thought both these coaches, uh, kind of melted down in the second half and it was who could make the, the, the first coach that made a smart decision was going to be a coach that won this game.


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[Assistant] And then neither of them did. It just happened that one of these coaches had Tom Brady and the other one didn't. And that's really felt like what it came down to. I mean, we talked about.


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[Assistant] If you run the ball there and you don't get it, 40 seconds burn off the clock. Well, guess what? That 40 seconds is gone. Tampa Bay is in a completely different situation.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, they caught a pass, and uh, it was incomplete, and the clock stopped, and then on fourth and one, the Saints decide to punt, from Tampa Bay's 44.


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[Assistant] A loss by the Buccaneers. If the Saints win this, that throws a wrench in this whole thing. The NFC South is upside down if the Buccaneers lose this game because you're talking about, uh, every team being within one game.


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[Assistant] Last place being within one game of first place with only five weeks left in the season, uh, but now that's out the window and you have the Buccaneers comfortably in first place at six in freaking six. And the thing is,


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[Assistant] If they just go two and three, which might be the best case scenario, when you look at their schedule and who they have left, I mean, it's not just like,


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[Assistant] They obviously have the 49ers next week, then they play the Bengals after that. Uhm, so they have a tough schedule down the stretch and


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[Assistant] And that pretty much makes them a lock, because the Falcons would have to go 3-1 just to get to 8-9. But the Falcons are 1-3 in the division, so they're not gonna win that tiebreaker, so it's not gonna matter. So 8-9 is gonna pretty much make the Buccaneers a lock for the player.


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[Assistant] Uh, oh yeaah, absolutely. They, they, after the 49ers and Bengals, which we'll say they lose both, they close with the Cardinals, Panthers, and Falcons, and they could certainly win all three of them. Okay. And if they split with the 49ers and Bengals, if they somehow go one and one there, then, you know, three games.


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[Assistant] I mean, this sounds like a new chapter in Brinson's Game Theory book.


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[Assistant] Uh, especially if you're Tampa Bay, but I, you know, I, I kind of agree with Wilson like the Baker Mayfield couldn't cut it in Carolina. What makes anyone think he's just going to show up in San Francisco and take, and yes, Kyle Shanahan is 10 times better than what they had in the Panthers. They have 10 times better offensive weapons and he is going to be better than he was in Carolina, but yeaah.


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[Assistant] And you say, hey Sean, you hate the 49ers as much as I do. Let's put our rivalry aside.


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[Assistant] You need a quarterback, you pick up Baker Mayfield, and all our problems are solved, and I'll take you to Cabo San Lucas in off season.


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[Assistant] But like, Rams have a legit needed quarterback, so it wouldn't be a crazy if... I don't think that, I don't think that's that crazy.


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[Assistant] Wilson's boy, McCorkle Jones. What if Bill Belichick's like, you know what, let's, let's get Baker. Let's, let's get him off the waiver wire.


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[Assistant] With Brady though, is that like, as good as the Saints defense was, part of it felt like it was cause Brady was bad. You know, what, you know.


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[Assistant] You can put so much pressure on the quarterback where you force him into bad throws, but part of this felt like Brady was just making bad throws. I mean, he got totally fooled.


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[Assistant] On his actual interception where he just made a horrible throw in the coverage.


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[Assistant] The other part of the decision making is you're kind of, as a coach, you take into account what you have seen so far. So that fourth and seven,


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[Assistant] The Buccaneers were at the Saints 40 yard line. You were down two scores. You were down 16 to three. This is the first play of the fourth quarter. So if you're Todd Bowles, you have to think, man, our offense has crapped the bed this entire game. We have not been in Saints territory since the opening drive.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady disconnected his headset and is like, I got it, guys. I don't need to talk to anyone on the sidelines.


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[Assistant] I need more, that's a, that's a, that's a 5-12 game where the 12 could have pulled the upset, but I'm sick.


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[Assistant] But I think those, those are, I feel like all those pics are, those make sense.


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[Assistant] I mean, no matter who the quarterback in San Francisco, you still have all those weapons and Chanhan will pull something crazy out of the back of his playbook. He'll be like, you know what? Christian McCaffrey is going to play quarterback this week. We're just going to run a single wing.


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[Assistant] Rock Purdy's not even going to be on the field and the Cowboys will have no idea what to do and he'll do that every week because he has so many weapons and the Divisional Round will be Debo taking all the snaps. It's just, you don't want to mess with that. So I, I, you'd probably probably know.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, would you rather go against Todd Bowles or Kyle Shanahan? Cause we just did our coaching, uh, little exercise. I would rather go against Todd Bowles.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady, I can't believe, what was this, the second biggest, second time he's been down by at least two touchdowns in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] 13 or more points and what a game and the other time Super Bowl 51.


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[Assistant] Well, I thought you were going to walk off the set. That's fully what I expected. So that didn't happen. It was already a mortal victory going forward, but bless Musso's heart. Uh, you know, he thought for sure this was going to be the one day his Bears are going to beat the Packers. It didn't happen. And so.


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[Assistant] And the producer's like, Breach, talk, talk. Cause me and Wilson, I didn't answer it cause he talked to Will Brinton and I was like, I am not answering to Will Brinton. I'm going quiet.


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[Assistant] You know what, I will say real quick, people will wake up tomorrow, see the final scores, 54-19, think the Cowboys absolutely dominated. But I didn't come away from this game thinking the Cowboys were an unstoppable machine. This game was 21-19 going into the fourth quarter. I thought this was more along the lines of


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[Assistant] Matt Ryan had a midlife crisis during this game and melted down.


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[Assistant] You win 54-19, you win 54-19, you are awesome, but I didn't have a huge takeaway and walk out of this thinking the Cowboys were invincible because this happened. To me it was more along the lines of


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[Assistant] The Colts are a bad team. They played like the bad team. We thought they were going to beat the whole game, except they only did that in the fourth quarter. You know, Matt Ryan throws interceptions, he loses fumbles, uh, they give up a fumble return for a touchdown. So to me, this spoke more to how bad the Colts are than how good the Cowboys are or can be.


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[Assistant] No matter how you feel about the current rosters, it's constructed because you might feel like there are a few issues. Uh, is that you're in the AFC South and so you're gonna feel like you have, there's no dominant team. Obviously the Titans are winning it but they're not going


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[Assistant] 14 and 3. They're not the Chiefs, they're not the Bills, and so you feel like if you get that job you can go in and compete instantly and at least have a chance of winning it, uh, even if your talent doesn't stack up to the rest of the AFC.


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[Assistant] Don't talk yourself into 49ers. You'll be sorry boys.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I'll just add in real quick. This is where the part where Wilson and I disagreed. Although the regular season winning percentage does not change much when you go to Brock Purdy, Jimmy Garoppolo. I get that in the winter. The playoff percentage does go way down. The Super Bowl percentage in particular goes down 20% and that's what it goes from down from 10% to 8% and that's


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[Assistant] Uh, 2% of 10% is one fifth, so it drops, it's a 20% drop, Brenton. Do we need to do a math lesson live on air? Oh, oh, we can't say cataclysmic, we can't do math.


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[Assistant] Right, but once you get to the postseason, it's a whole different animal, especially when you're starting a rookie quarterback.


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[Assistant] For one, a rookie quarterback has never won the Super Bowl. So, and there's a reason for that. It's high pressure situations every single week. It's a lot to put a rookie into. Uh, and historically they fail miserably once you get to the postseason. So like Wilson said, I do agree. They probably still win the division, but I would be shh.


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[Assistant] I was gonna say Shock, maybe Stun. What are those two if they get to the Super Bowl? And I'd be surprised if they even get to the NMC title game.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady versus Brock Purdy. Who's winning that wild card game? Brock Purdy.


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[Assistant] Oh my goodness, I forgot about that.


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[Assistant] My favorite bet to win the division? Ah, you know what, Wilson called me out on uh, HQ, even though he called me out for the wrong reason using the wrong facts. I, uh, well I said I think the Bengals were gonna make the playoffs and I think they were gonna beat the Chiefs and you made it sound like I did not think that.


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[Assistant] Uh, my issue was that the Ravens have the easiest remaining schedule, but as we saw on Sunday, anyone can lose anyone, they almost lost to Denver. But look, this just has a very strong feeling to the similarities to last season. It just feels like the Bengals


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[Assistant] They start 0-2. They're kind of slept on. They're 5-4 at their bye. Everyone's kind of disrespecting them and just, you forget about them. You forget they exist. And everybody's talking about the Chiefs and the Bills. Last year, all anyone was saying was that that divisional playoff game between the Chiefs and the Bills was the de facto Super Bowl, the de facto AFC title game.


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[Assistant] And so once again, it happened and then we see Kansas City.


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[Assistant] Go into Cincinnati, we see Joe Burrow absolutely outplay Patrick Mahomes. We see the, the Bengals, uh, look phenomenal on offense. We see their defense once again clamp down on Mahomes when they had to, you know, you're not going to shut Patrick Mahomes down for an entire game, but they, they did it when they needed to.


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[Assistant] And, uh, what'd we see again? We saw the Bengals win. So this really...


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[Assistant] Uh, man, this entire game was insane and awesome. And you know what? I'll just let you guys have the floor.


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[Assistant] Uh, I have not. I would say, since that is like plus one ten.


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[Assistant] And a big reason for that, again, the reason the Ravens are favorite, even though they just lost Lamar Jackson, the Bengals are still plus money, is because if they finish with the same record, the Ravens are almost certainly going to win the tiebreaker, even if the Bengals beat them.


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[Assistant] Uh, in the finale, if the Ravens go 2-2 in their final four division games, they, they hold all division tiebreakers over the Bengals.


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[Assistant] It is brutal. It is brutal. But you know, when we were talking about it last week, it included the Chiefs and that was part of the brutalness and they've won one of these brutal games already. They're going to be favored over the Browns. They're going to be favored probably over the Buccaneers. I think they have to beat the Browns.


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[Assistant] They're gonna be favored over the Patriots, uh, the Bills game, it's at home in prime time, maybe they're favored?


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I had to be worried. I'm not going to assume a win over the Kansas City Chiefs. I picked the Chiefs to win. I think you picked the Chiefs to win. And I think that Brenton, did you pick the Chiefs to win?


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[Assistant] Alright, I picked the bangles to win. Wilson also picked the bangles to win. Wait, wait, what? Yeah.


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[Assistant] So obviously we all like the Bengals in this spot. Uh, and you know, it was just, again, we already mentioned P Ryan a little bit, but Mixon wasn't there and P Ryan was awesome. And when they didn't have Jamar Chase, somebody else steps up. And Brenton, you mentioned how much depth they've had. The offensive line is playing a lot better. And I think that's another big part of this is they have now had, uh,


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[Assistant] Well, that's funny, because I think, uh, Mike Florio reported on... Yeah, he reported suspensions, fines, draft picks, all kinds of crazy stuff. And if that memo got sent out on Friday, which means the Bengals were aware of it, and every other team in the NFL was aware of it, and then they turned around and did this two days later,


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[Assistant] I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL drops a hammer just to make an example.


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[Assistant] I mean, yes, it was that obvious that I would not, that's why I just said I think the NFL might end up making it.


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[Assistant] What do you do? Are you gonna suspend the player? Are you gonna dock the team draft picks? Apparently that's what this memo said.


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[Assistant] This was the most points any team has ever scored in a game without scoring an offensive touchdown since 1999. That's a good stat. Which is also when the Browns were brought back. And Wilson, your favorite team was involved in that game, just so you know. Was that the Texans-Steelers game?


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[Assistant] That was 2002. That, that was the one where, uh, one team had like 450 yards, 0 yards. This one, that was Seahawks, 29-10 over Steelers, 19-99. Seahawks scored 29 with us. Yeah, I remember that.


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[Assistant] And just to Wilson's point real quick, the reason I think they have to go 5 and 0 is because if they go even just 4 and 1,


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[Assistant] That gets him to 9 and 8, but if the Giants and Commanders get to 9 wins...


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[Assistant] They go nine seven and one and obviously they are in, uh, you know, so the players would just have to go two and three down the stretch. The Giants would have to go two and three.


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[Assistant] Right, so it just, 9 and 8 is probably not getting you in if you're the Lions.


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[Assistant] I live in Nashville. I watch the Titans all the time. The Titans always come in well prepared. They are a hard team to blow out just because they play


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[Assistant] Discipline football. We saw them play the Kansas City Chiefs early this year with a backup quarterback. They took Kansas City overtime. We saw them play the Bengals last week. That was a game they could have won. Uh, they only lose by four. Then they go into Philadelphia and they get their clock clean. This game was never close. Philadelphia was 10 times better. I have never seen


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[Assistant] They got, the, the titans got manhandled here, and that's really what it comes down to.


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[Assistant] Well, the one thing I will say though is that I really feel like it was a statement game for Jalen Hurts. Cause a lot of times, look, people will say, ah, well, what if we shut down Philadelphia's running game?


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[Assistant] Uh, and make Jaylen Hurts beat us, uh, well, we can see what Jaylen Hurts can do, because he's just over 380 yards and three touchdowns, and so he's proven against a well-coached defense that he can throw when he needs to. Granted, the Titans don't have the best secondary.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I do think this was a statement win for Philly and it really says.


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[Assistant] If people are debating whether we're the best team in the NFC and maybe the best team in the NFL, yes, we are. This is our argument.


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[Assistant] I think right this second I would probably vote him MVP.


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[Assistant] But, you know, you don't vote on MVP till the end of the regular season. Maybe Joe Burrow goes 5-0 down the stretch and I vote for Joe Burrow. So, but right now I do think I'm on, I'm on the billy train right now.


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[Assistant] Right, but it is odd that they didn't announce this prior to the season and that they decided in November when they finalized the decision that this was going to happen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they do do it that way. And the NBA has never had a tie atop the voting, unlike the NFL, which has had two ties because that's what happens when you only have 50 people voting and they can only vote for one person.


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[Assistant] I mean, when we talk about them advancing, you just look at their schedule and you see they've played two good NFC teams and they got smoked both times. And that's, that's what I'm afraid of with the Vikings.


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[Assistant] I've ten years of dunking on me. Yea, see? Ten years. Alright. So if anything, it's a blessing.


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[Assistant] Like this is the conversation, eh, you have your bi-week coming up, Aaron Rodgers got to beat the Bears, the team he owns, and now you sit down and you say, look Aaron, if we're gonna play Jordan Love,


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[Assistant] Now's the time to do it. We can kind of integrate them into, uh, start taking first team reps this week. We don't play in week 14. You can go and do whatever you want and just be pals with him and, and don't say anything crazy out in public.


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[Assistant] What do you tell, you tell Aaron Rodgers, if you're meant for it, you say, all right, one more loss. Whenever it is, you're out. Like we're going to Jordan because at nine losses, they're not going to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, I was gonna say the flip side, cause you're talking about Josh McDaniels isn't on the hot seat anymore and how good the Raiders look. But to me, this is the game that squarely puts Brandon Staley on the hot seat. If he wasn't worried about his job before, I would at least be a little concerned now if I'm him.


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[Assistant] That was in the first quarter. Derek Carr threw a pick six in the first quarter. The Raiders punted twice in the first quarter. They touched the ball four times in the first quarter and bad things happened all four times. They were down 10-0 before they looked any...


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[Assistant] Josh Jacobs and Devonte Adams did, as you guys mentioned. So, uh, yeah, the Chargers have a lot of talent. Their offensive line is obviously the huge issue, but.


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[Assistant] You know, you got to find a way to win. You can't go up 10, nothing and blow that lead, especially against the Raiders team that is now just one game behind you in the AFC West. I think the Raiders are better team than the chargers and answer the question of whether or not they can make the playoffs. Uh, I think they can get to, what do you think? What do you think the percentage chances at five 38?


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[Assistant] It's possible if the Chiefs are resting starters in week 18.


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[Assistant] Josh McDaniel's reunion in New England. He knows how Bellatruck prepares is going to be. Can he pick it on Christmas Eve?


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[Assistant] Well, to put it simply, if the Jets go 2 and 3 down the stretch, the Raiders have to go at least 4 and 1, just to... Just to tie.


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[Assistant] But the Raiders are the reverse Vikings. We talked about how the Vikings kept winning these one-score games. The Raiders just kept losing them earlier in the season, whether it was blowing that 20-nothing lead to the Cardinals, blowing a double-digit lead to Jacksonville earlier this year.


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[Assistant] Losing by one point to the Chiefs, failing on a two point conversion against the Titans, uh, back in September. I mean, they've had so many losses where they were just one play away. The coin flip and that coin flip always went against them.


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[Assistant] I think I will put the Seahawks in there, even though man, they still have to play the Chiefs and the 49ers and the Jets. So they have some brutal, brutal.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna give it to the commanders and the Seahawks. Or whoever comes in second in NFC West.


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[Assistant] The Giants have to play the Eagles twice and that to me...


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[Assistant] And they still play the Vikings, so they still have three games left against the top two seeds in the NFC.


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[Assistant] If that happens, I'm gonna pay for a pirate ship cake that Wilson has to eat.


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[Assistant] No, the Chiefs are, and real quick, you know, you mentioned that the Chiefs... They're the Broncos left twice! I thought the Bengals...


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[Assistant] Was the team from Sunday that could not afford to lose like that felt to me like the Chiefs had some margin fair cause right now they're just tied for.


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[Assistant] The top spot. Yes, they're number two because of the tiebreaker, but you're still right there. If the Bengals lose that game, they're a game.


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[Assistant] But by winning it, you put yourself in the conversation for possibly getting the number one seed and you now have a comfortable two game lead over the eight seed so that you're in. I felt like this was more of a must-win game for the Bengals just because it feels like the Chiefs were getting in the playoffs no matter what happens in Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] The Bengals weren't necess- and their schedule's tough and the Chiefs have the easiest remaining schedule. They're not gonna lose a bunch of games down the stretch. They only play one more team that has a winning record.


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[Assistant] Nah, I mean, yeaah, he's gotta be the MVP, easily. And then, I mean, the last wide receiver to go for a thousand yards was Jeremy Macklin. The last running back to go for a thousand yards was obviously Shady McCrory. Uhm, I mean, Jamie Larritz is very, is playing very well. Uh, I like how frustrated he got with A.J. Brown when he didn't kind of make that end cut on one of those post rounds there, closer to the end zone. Uh, I think that was in like the third quarter. Uhm, but,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think, you know, people mention this a lot just throughout the game, like even when the game was just, you know, in hand and he's on the sideline just chilling.


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[Assistant] You know, he just doesn't look like, you know, he's too high, too low. He's just so even killed. And I think that's like, I don't know what you guys think, but.


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[Assistant] Is that how that works? I don't know. That's why I say two and a half if you've got a tiebreaker for somebody.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think he's a, I mean, I think he's a lot. He's a lot. I think he, I think he's a lot. That's not how, that's not how that works. No, no, no. But what I'm saying is if he doesn't play bad and it's the last game of the season.


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[Assistant] He's not going to lose the MVP off of not playing a game. So like at that point, he's basically alive.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I mean, one thing to worry about this Eagles team though is Reeve Blankenship getting hurt, like...


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[Assistant] We already have CJ Gardner Johnson on IR. He's going to be gone for at least two more weeks. And now we're left with Kayvon Wallace, played at Clemson.


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[Assistant] He's not great. He moved down in the depth chart after Re-Blanket Shaped, uh, you know, was on the Act of Broster. So.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm Orr Benson. I'm your host. It's the week 12 recap show starting late. Thanks to, uh, young man Jordan Love.


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[Assistant] Get to that topic. Just remember he came in and threw a touchdown pass and extended that game when the Eagles were trying to snuff it out. Joining me to break down week 12, John Breach and Ryan Wilson, who I will ask how they're doing after I tell you that since we don't make Ryan Wilson work enough as it is.


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[Assistant] The end long time NFL GM Rick Spielman. You can watch episodes here on the big six YouTube channel or by searching with the first pick on any podcast platform. If you guys listeners.


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[Assistant] Uh, and help support Wilson. It'll be a great show. Rich Billman's knows his stuff and Ryan Wilson is an organized and, uh, earnest junior drafting list.


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[Assistant] Well, we've gotta, he's gotta get first draft and we gotta sell it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, maybe we should hone off the air horns on the Sunday night recap pod.


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[Assistant] Uh, were we airhorning Wilson's like celebration? I don't know. Whatever. Let's get to the, we got a lot of games to cover.


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[Assistant] Let's get to them. By the way, Sunday is the first time in NFL history that four teams won after trailing by seven plus points in the final two minutes of regulation. The Browns came back to beat the Bucs.


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[Assistant] Packers and Eagles will go there first. Uh, I think Tom Palacero had a great tweet pointing out that almost 15 years to the day on November 29th,


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[Assistant] 2007, Aaron Rogers replaced an injured Brit Favre in Dallas and set the stage for the transition after the season.


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[Assistant] Jordan love replaced Aaron Rogers and injured Aaron Rogers who suffered a rib injury and appeared on the first drive of the second half already dealing with a broken thumb went to the locker room took off his jersey. Jordan love comes in and look.


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[Assistant] I don't think you can definitely say, Wilson, uh,


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[Assistant] The scouting report on Jordan Love was certainly one that, uh, project who needed time to develop, but with a lot of upside. Um, and I don't think you can definitively say anything based on his performance in the final, you know, whatever it was against Philly on, on Sunday night, but the dude looked really sharp.


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[Assistant] And I don't want to bury the lead because the Eagles ran for 300 plus yards. But I mean, the Jordan love Aaron Rodgers thing is going to be a talking point, the talking point for the next probably five days, right?


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[Assistant] Aaron Roger, the out that you mentioned, Wilson, I mean, you have really have two injuries and you have a team that is now, uh, the 11th seed in the NFC four and eight. I mean, it's over, right? I mean, you, you have to, there's a lot of leapfrogging you have to do to get there now.


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[Assistant] Where it would get awkward as if they ran the table with Jordan Love and even then I'm still not sure that that would even matter. The point being is that you have three, three outs you can utilize here. You have the broken thumb, which really they should have utilized several weeks ago. You have this rib injury.


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[Assistant] And you have the fact that your team is out of the, out of the playoffs, essentially. So sit Aaron Rogers, let Jordan love play.


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[Assistant] And then after this season, you pick up the Jordan Lowe's fifth year option, obviously, unless he's just complete dog crap.


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[Assistant] And then you reassess and discuss with Aaron Rodgers what he wants to do and what Jordan Love wants to do. Because you don't, Aaron Rodgers won the last two MVPs before this season. I mean, he's, he's still playing at a high level. I do think the thumb injury matters. I also think to Breach's point, he came out and, you know, in this,


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[Assistant] It is setting the table when you're like, he, you finally start mentioning the injury. Like you see with Stafford, it's like fighting through a shoulder. It's like, you know, or whatever it was, that's when these guys are looking to shut it down. The team is leaking this information out there because they want, they know what they might do.


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[Assistant] And the other thing it does, if you play Jordan Love and he plays really well,


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[Assistant] And Rogers wants to keep playing and you're worried about the contract thing. You can trade Jordan love and potentially get something good in return. I'm not saying you should do that. I'm just saying that you play Jordan love now for the rest of the season.


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[Assistant] And see how he does and then reassess after the season. I think I think your percentage chances of Rogers playing again is, um, I think your thought process is fine. I think the percentage chance is way, way, way too low. I mean, what do you think it is?


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[Assistant] I would say it's like 60-40 he plays next year. Well, how would he want to play for this football team? Because he wants to win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] I do believe that if he were to play in 2023 and then retire after that.


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[Assistant] That the dead cap it would be substantially lower for when he retires. So I think that's just something to consider. Again, maybe he doesn't want to play anymore. I think he'll play at least one more year. I would be surprised if he retires.


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[Assistant] But I think there's no question that you should play Jordan Love the rest of the season and sit a very clearly injured and ineffective Aaron Rodgers rather than like leaving him out there to just get blasted over and over.


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[Assistant] You are probably giving the starting job to Aaron Rodgers unless he looks terrible in training camp. I mean, let's not act like he is. I mean, he, he hasn't been good this year. Don't get me wrong, but he won the last two MVPs and they went 13.


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[Assistant] Yes, and then, and then he will probably walk away and then you have Jordan Love in his, in your fifth year option. I mean, that's, so, I mean...


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[Assistant] If, if, if, if Jordan Love plays as well as you think he can be an NFL starter, then you're, the pick actually ended up being pretty good and the transition worked out well, even if you didn't win a Super Bowl. It's eerily reminiscent of Farve and Rodgers, honestly.


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[Assistant] Next year? Five or six? That's, that's, okay, that's a pretty pessimistic view of Packer's team. What have you seen this year that makes you feel good about the roster? Like who's coming? Aaron Rodgers without a broken hand would make me feel a lot better. The defense needs to be improved, but. Okay. All right. Let's talk about the Eagles.


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[Assistant] And outrageous. They have 500 total yards in this game. Average 6.3 yards per play. Packers actually averaged seven, which is kind of crazy. They ran for 363 yards on 49 carries, an average of 7.4 yards per carry. The most rush yards in a game in Eagles history.


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[Assistant] So second most Russian game in Eagles history, excuse me, behind only the 1948 Eagles against, uh, the Washington, whatever they were called then, the foosball team, um,


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[Assistant] The Eagles, excuse me. Yes. The Eagles had the most rushing years given up by the Packers since 1978 in the first 300 yard rushing game by the Eagles since their season opener 2000. Uh, this was absolute domination by the Eagles offensive line. Jalen hurts.


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[Assistant] Ran for 157 yards on 17 carries. He had 120 in that like late, like early in the second quarter and miles Sanders ran it 21 times for 143 yards and two touchdowns. Kenneth Gamewell got on the act to.


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[Assistant] There's a total domination on the ground by the Eagles and a really impressive game plan by Philadelphia after two kind of shaky starts. I know the game and the score ended up 40 to 33 ended up being close. I feel he covered the final six and a half, but, um, any that was a, that was a domination by them on the ground.


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[Assistant] No matter who you are, um, what team you are, where you're from, when you're four and seven and you're down 14 points on the road.


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[Assistant] Uh, on like a Sunday night in a cold, in like a, you know, in a cold city, uh, and, and a team has 300 rushing yards on you or 250 or whatever it is. You're going to be a little bit less inclined to tackle somebody and don't get me wrong that the Packers tackling was atrocious. Uh, they are a really bad defense right now.


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[Assistant] Their whole game plan coming into the season was we're going to be a great defense, um, with a great run game. And I think they do still have a great run game.


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[Assistant] Chris, uh, you know, Christian Watson looks like he could be a budding superstar, but I mean this.


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[Assistant] You can't do anything with this type of defense where all credit in the world to the Eagles because Kenny Clark, uh, as Chris Collins were pointed out was non-existent in this game. Uh, Jason Kelsey just, I know you're getting mad at me for this probably Wilson, but I mean, I think Jason, I think Jason Kelsey is a hall of Famer. Um, he's


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[Assistant] Yeah, for sure. He is brother podcast is fantastic. Um, but he, I mean what he does with the creative style of run game that Nick Sirianni brings to the table is just outstanding. You know, you can just like the, the mile Sanders run where he launched himself with like a missile at the, at the defender didn't even really hit him. And Sanders was like watching him and knew which way to cut and got a few more yards.


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[Assistant] Just the athleticism. I think Lane Johnson hasn't given up a sack. I mean, this is, it reminds me a lot of the 2017 team.


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[Assistant] It's like if you've shrunk Cam Newton a little bit, but maybe made him like even bulkier.


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[Assistant] Uh, Billy, yeaah, you want 30 seconds? Cause we got, we did too long with that game. What you want Billy?


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[Assistant] If we get to, um, a hundred likes on the YouTube, we will give away five paramount plus gift cards. If we get to a hundred, if we get to two hundred, we're gonna wait five more. So smash the like button. There are plenty of people in here watching. If you haven't hit the like button, go ahead and do it for you about the paramount plus. Great time to have it. Billy, your Eagles, how'd they look?


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[Assistant] That's right. Yeah. Interesting test case to see how they do. I actually think that they, the, uh, the Packers probably utilize, uh, AJ Dillon in this game. They use them a lot more than they had the last few weeks. Uh, maybe all season probably thinking this is the only way to win is to be physical in that run game. Okay.


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[Assistant] By the way, Aaron Rodgers said his post game does not plan to shut it down. Plans to play next week if he's cleared. We'll see. Moving along from the Eagles to a Super Bowl winning coach with the Eagles and his giant pair of onions that he drags along behind him. Doug Peterson.


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[Assistant] Takes out the Jaguars, Jaguars take out the Ravens, Jaguars move to four and seven.


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[Assistant] Ravens fall to seven and four, still number first place in the division, 28-27.


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[Assistant] Doug Peterson goes for two. The Jaguar score with, I believe.


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[Assistant] With 18 seconds left, go for two, get the two point conversion on the throw from Trevor Lawrence to Zay Jones, who had a career high in receptions, 11 and receiving roger 145 and win the game.


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[Assistant] And ironically against John Harbaugh to go for two in that spot. Uh, Wilson, I'll just throw it to you and ask you this. Are we still worried?


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[Assistant] Why are you looking at my point? I just pointed out that Trevor Lawrence 29 to 37, 321, three touchdowns, zero interceptions, third career, three TD game, career high and passer rating 129.8.


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[Assistant] If you want to hang out on, if you want to hang out on the hill, like planting your flag that Trevor Lawrence is going to suck.


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[Assistant] That's fine. I think it's, I think it's a fool's errand. I think Trevor Lawrence deserves a red shirt for last year. And I think you heard it from the, from the announcing crew in this game talking about what Doug Peterson told them, which was, you know, Trevor Lawrence has always had, you know, a really bright light on, but he's like, you can see the light getting brighter each week. And like, you can tell that he's picking things up.


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[Assistant] After just the worst possible season, anything that you could go through from a quarterback perspective, coaching wise, uh, with every mile last year. So I think what we're seeing is, uh, substantial progress. The Jaguars now I think are, um, six and they're, they've lost.


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[Assistant] All but one of their one score games. This is like their first one score game that they won or something like that. It's a team that...


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[Assistant] Doug Peterson's professional approach and Trevor Lawrence improvement over the course of the season has allowed them to be competitive. And, and that's what you want to see from a, from a, it's okay. This team isn't winning a ton of games. They're, they're making a move. Um, and, and like, I thought the Ravens, you know,


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[Assistant] I thought the Raven should have won this one handily. I think you have to ask questions again about Baltimore. Um, now, uh, I believe they are, uh, seven and four.


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[Assistant] To, to, to be seven and four with that kind of production is, is deeply concerning. Like the Ravens, the Ravens should be, I don't know, nine to two right now. Ten and one.


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[Assistant] I just, I just realized, I was like, what is wrong with Breach's voice? I just realized you were at the, uh, the Titans-Bingles game today. That's probably why, right?


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[Assistant] On the play before Josh Oliver, uh, the Ravens tied in, caught the pass from Lamar Jackson and did the correct thing by getting out of bounds.


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[Assistant] You know, he, he, you can see he cut to the right, he got out of bounds. Raven still had, I believe, all three of their timeouts. If not, they at least had, they definitely had a timeout to use. You just wonder if he just,


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[Assistant] Like, like going straight ahead and like dove forward and giving himself up and slid. Could, could John Harbaugh have gotten the time out off in time? Probably not.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's two seconds left. It would have been really close and you're trusting the clock operator on the road.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying like if he had kept going straight and picked up the extra yards, then I think Tucker could make the field goal. It was just asking too much for him to kick 67.


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[Assistant] Well, when it came over, so that broke his streak of 65 consecutive field goals made in the fourth quarter every time. Uh, and it looked, it looked as good as it gets off his foot. And then you could tell Tucker was like, ah, I just don't have enough on it.


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[Assistant] Well, really quickly, what is your level of concern about the Ravens? Cause they're still leading the division, 7 and 4.


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[Assistant] Jacksonville got it in 1917 and Gus, uh, there was a, they screwed up on special teams. They screwed up the kickoff return, did a bad job with that. Then Gus fumbles and that still only led to a Jacksonville field goal, which is kind of nuts too. Like Jacksonville got the ball, um, on the, like the,


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[Assistant] I think they got the ball in the 16 yard line, the Raven 16 yard line and still.


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[Assistant] They, they shouldn't have to worry about getting the play. They should be the point that this season where they shouldn't have to worry about getting the playoffs. And yet here we are. All right, let's take a quick break. And when we come back.


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[Assistant] Bucks, Tom Brady, get gutted by Jacobi Percett. Next.


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[Assistant] First time, first game of Tom Brady's career. I don't know if you guys know this, Tom Brady's been playing for a while. 21 years.


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[Assistant] Mm, 22 years, I guess. Anyways, his team had a seven plus point lead in the final minute of the fourth quarter and ended up losing the game. That is wild. Um, the Browns are now at four and seven.


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[Assistant] Let's give, uh, what grade would you give the Browns for the like how they held it down relative to expectations without Deshaun Watson?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was on, uh. Now, if you want to crown them, then crown their ass! I wonder, was it on fourth down? I think it was on fourth down, wasn't it?


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[Assistant] Yes. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was crazy. Like the game is over. Just stop on this one play and in Joku, uh, you know, made a great job. Sort of got a little bit of a push off. I think it was, uh,


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[Assistant] So Levante, David, or was it, uh, was it, uh, was it white? One of the, one of the linebackers yellow, a little bit of push off and got loose in the back of the end zone. Made an incredible catch. They got it over time. It took every percent. Um, they.


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[Assistant] Yeah. He said, uh, he said after the game, he said, I don't know. All due respect to Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] He's like, for that to be like my last, you know, the way that would like, that's my last game as a starter for the Browns. That was effing awesome. What did he say? Like to quote Tom Brady, that was effing awesome. That was effing awesome. Um, and I don't blame him, man. Like security was just a great guy. Kind of getting a raw deal. I, why are you getting a raw deal?


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[Assistant] I don't think it would be that crazy to say, all right, Deshawn, you're sitting out the rest of the year and like, oh God, maybe just be an active electric heavy play.


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[Assistant] The Giants or Washington creeping into that five spot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean like the best possible team that could end up in that five spot would be.


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[Assistant] I mean, I guess San Francisco Seattle somehow stole the division.


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[Assistant] No, but I'm just saying, like, it's likely going to be an NFC East team or Seattle in that five spot. Well, Seattle's not in the picture right now. I know, but they're just, I'm just saying, like, that's, there's a few weeks left. I mean, now there is also the possibility that it could be that five spot. No, please stop.


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[Assistant] By the way, remember how I said, but that where that line was going to go on the early odds podcast at halftime? It's already at seven.


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[Assistant] Rounds minus seven at Houston. It was at six when we did the podcast. I said, get it in now because it's going to be seven.


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[Assistant] It's going to be reset as going out and been a been business with a bad Brown's team has played really well, uh, is the polar opposite in terms of at least what we know currently, like, or what we think from a.


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[Assistant] From an off-field perspective, uh, I would say that you can represent is probably the polar opposite of the Sean Watson. Um, and, and so I don't know, I just feel it just, it just stinks that, you know, recovery percent is enemies four and seven. I know she should be rewarded, but it's like, right. The Sean's back from his 11 game suspension. See you.


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[Assistant] The Jets. Brady Quill! Brady Quill lost another $1,000. How fun is that?


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, fun fact, leading rusher, you know, the leading rusher was for the jets.


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[Assistant] Sure. What does he want? Can I know? Can you tell me I'm looking now? It's your buddy. Yep. Bam night babies out of a night. Actually, uh,


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[Assistant] Had 69 carries or 69 yards on 14 carries, 4.9 yards per carry and three receptions for 34 yards, giving 103 yards from scrimmage, setting a new Jets record for yards from scrimmage and NFL debut. Really? That seems low. It does look good for him. Really? That seems really low.


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[Assistant] Mike White, unbelievable. I believe he won somebody a million dollars in the, uh, in the DraftKings million maker. 22 and 28, 315 passing yards, three touchdowns, zero interceptions, 149.3 passing yard, passing rating in nasty weather against the Bears team on


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[Assistant] The buzz, the word of the street was that Zach Wilson was basically be given like being given a mental break to sort of recharge and kind of like step away. It's like, all right, like, let's just try and.


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[Assistant] Hold on, see if we can get, you know, this guy can get it back. Then Mike White comes into place. Great. The biggest question of all here, Wilson, why the hell?


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[Assistant] And then, and then right before the game, they're like, actually, Nathan Peterman is starting. And then they're like, actually, it'll be a game time decision on who's starting. It's like the game kicks off in four minutes. What do you mean it's a game time decision?


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[Assistant] I was really happy, I thought Wilson was drinking a banquet beer for a second.


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[Assistant] Of course, original is the banquet beer, not course light. Uh, look, I, my quiet is definitely starting next week.


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[Assistant] Unless he just is completely atrocious and they get blown out. All right. Even then he probably still starting against the bills.


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[Assistant] The Bears wouldn't mind. Don't know Mooney suffered an injury. He's going to be out for the season again. Justin Fields needs the reps. Don't get me wrong.


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[Assistant] But I don't have a problem if you don't roll out Justin Fields until he's a complete until he's as close to 100% as you can get him. They're not going to be very good.


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[Assistant] You know, play for your pick. Maybe you can help him out. Maybe you can grab, uh, oh gosh, here's the, uh, Marvin Harrison Jr pair of Justin Fields. That'd be fun.


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[Assistant] And by the way, Garrett Wilson, uh, this season, I started quarterback 71.3.


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[Assistant] Yards per game with Joe Flacco, 45.6 with Zach Wilson and 95 per game with Mike White and Elijah Moore, who's a stud and what demanded a trade and like was active. He's like, I don't know why I can't get the ball in Zach Wilson's in there. It's like, dude, you have these two guys, one you're drafted with and the other that they drafted in the first round to get to you.


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[Assistant] Feed these mofos. Like why are you, you should be locking in on them, even if you're making mistakes and like forcing balls into coverage. Feed Garrett Wilson and Elijah Morgan.


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[Assistant] By the way, if you, if you like, if you, if you ask somebody, if you ask, if you ask like Madden to just auto generate a name for Mike White, but given only his photo, they would still name him Mike White.


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[Assistant] Mm-mm-mm. Joe Burrow looks saucy after this game. Breach, I'm gonna refill my glass. Why don't you talk about your, uh, pickles? Uh, 2016, by the way, on the road, you were there at the game with the entire Breach family. And if you even want, you can tell us about your, uh, you know, dinner date.


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[Assistant] Who saw who first? Jim Breacher or Edmund McPherson?


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[Assistant] I'm still mad about that too. I got, I got, I got, I got bamboozled with that one. I love T Higgins coming out. Oh, please.


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[Assistant] It is at the top of the list. That is- What's number one? Like that's getting called night. They assigned an official to watch that. Right.


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[Assistant] I got, I got a buddy in a, in a, in a group chat, uh, shout out Wells, who, uh, is a, is a Titans fan. He was like, he texted when that happened. He's like, I can't believe I'm like wishing that Randy Bullock was backing into this team. Like that's how, that's how bad it's gotten.


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[Assistant] I feel pretty uncomfortable with my Raven's futures in the AFC North. And you can't say the Steelers either.


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[Assistant] No, do you know what the odds of William Hill are right now for the Raven, for the AFC North? No. The Steelers are 80 to 1. Sounds too low. This one lets you know. The Browns are 25 to 1.


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[Assistant] That's not, that's not intriguing, right? Three games back with the showbots coming back? No, it's not. Probably not.


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[Assistant] Uh, the bangles are 2 to 1, and the ravens are minus 240.


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[Assistant] So the Biggles have Patrick Mahomes to Sean Watson is one of his first two games back. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Josh Allen, and then the Ravens.


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[Assistant] That's their fate. Right. The Titans are minus 700 to win the division.


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[Assistant] Right before, yeaah. Come on, come on, you can do it. Relax, uh, settle down pal. The, just, I was gonna look at the AFC playoff picture really quickly.


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[Assistant] And then you have to shave your head. Right now it would be Miami.


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[Assistant] Hosting the chats, Kansas city getting to buy Tennessee hosting Cincinnati. Oh no.


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[Assistant] Three really I don't think they're spicy, but like Tennessee does not. Baltimore doesn't want Buffalo coming to town.


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[Assistant] Tennessee does not want, like you would much rather go to Tennessee and play them than have Buffalo come to your home stadium, right? Nah, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I'm saying like, if you're, is there any merit to the idea that let's say Miami wins the AFC East and is the two seed that making Buffalo guaranteed to be the five seed, would you rather be a wild card winner or the division winner? You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] I mean, hosting Buffalo in a wild card game is a punishment for winning the division.


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[Assistant] I think, I think Tennessee and Baltimore might both prefer.


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[Assistant] Baltimore, Baltimore doesn't want to deal with Buffalo coming to town. Uh, the Jets are your current seven seed, the Patriots are eight.


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[Assistant] And the team that we are about to talk about next, the Los Angeles Chargers, maybe a season changing and job saving win?


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[Assistant] That we saw a team go for too late. Obviously the Jacksonville Jaguars did it in one. So too did the chargers beating the Cardinals 25, 24.


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[Assistant] Justin Herbert, 35 or 47 to 74 and three touchdowns. Uh, Keenan Allen returned, but wasn't massively effective. Also, Declan was pretty good in this game as well. And the, uh, cart, the chargers were for two. Got it.


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[Assistant] I don't really understand this meme, but apparently it's a Call of Duty thing.


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[Assistant] You don't understand the kids, Brenton. By the way, you know, else didn't go for it. Didn't go for two to win the game.


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[Assistant] I want to note that while I have said, I don't think that the Cardinals will fire anybody.


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[Assistant] And again, I'm allowed to change my mind if they keep losing and keep losing and keep losing.


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[Assistant] Injuries get leaked out and it's like, oh, like maybe they're thinking about shutting it down. The other reason, you know, that maybe like when you hear this, this is Ian Rappaport, uh, tweeted out on Sunday morning. Meanwhile, this is like his update. Meanwhile, as Kyler Murray is set to return sources say Murray and coach Cliff Kingsbury used the time not playing to get on the same page. Red flag one.


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[Assistant] He quote tweeted, the AZ Cardinals quarterback coach relationship has been tense. But my understanding is Callie Murray and coach Cliff Kingsbury spent the last two weeks talking through everything, planning how things will look and focusing on communication.


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[Assistant] A blessing in disguise is how a source called it. And then they go out and this happens. And Kyler says schematically we were effed. Now this is where you start. Now this is where if this happens and you can't move on from Kyler, like this is how cliff gets fired.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying is that if this becomes an untenable, people are throwing each other under the bus publicly on a frequent basis and they're having to leak out that they spent two weeks, you know, his, his hamster.


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[Assistant] Then, then you start, then it starts to be a red flag situation because it's also possible that other people involved in the organization realize that there needs to be a scapegoat for this season.


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[Assistant] One of the things you could never predict if you had a million guesses about this NFL season.


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[Assistant] That the AFC West and NFC West would be absolute trash outside of like the 49ers and the and the Chiefs and that the AFC East and NFC East would like be just like loading up on playoff teams. And yet here we are.


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[Assistant] I, I think, I mean, that's why I called it when we introduced it. I think potentially season saving for them, you know, you have to, you have to go out and execute down the stretch and you have to win some games and, but, you know, you lose this game and you fall to, um, you know, you fall to five and six. Yeah. I mean, it feels like.


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[Assistant] Pretty big swing here on that two point conversion, which is kind of crazy. That's, that is the NFL in a nutshell, right?


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[Assistant] That two point conversion gives the Chargers gives the Chargers a win card was a lot like a heartbreaking loss. The Chargers feel like reinvigorated and if they missed the two point conversion, you feel like.


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[Assistant] Uh, like maybe Brandon Staley's getting fired, or Cliff Kingsbury's got some energy late in the season. Who knows?


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[Assistant] Alright, let's take a break and when we come back. The Raiders. Did they turn their season around? Next.


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[Assistant] By the way, I should point out, Ryan Wilson doesn't do enough work around here. We're tired of him lollygagging with his grumpy attitude complaining that he's got to do right.


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[Assistant] And do draft coverage and podcasts with me. So we decided to give another podcast.


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[Assistant] It's actually his own show. It's a spinoff show. Wow! I have my own spinoff show. That's so cool. Or you have your own spinoff show.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. That means, like, you're, you're, uh, Saul Goodman and I'm, uh, I'm Walter White. Alright, by the way, that works too. Actually, I guess that's not good for me.


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[Assistant] With the first pick, that's the name of it.


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[Assistant] I don't know if it's dot dot dots or not. Is the new NFL DraftPod hosted by Wilson and longtime NFL GM Rick Spielman? You can watch episodes here on the Pixix Podcast YouTube channel or by searching with the first pick.


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[Assistant] On any podcast platform. If you listen to this podcast, if you watch this podcast, if you hang out in the chat, if you're all, oh, we just got big and vertical. If you


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[Assistant] Billy, Billy's drunk. If you support Ryan Wilson, don't have to support me. Actually, if you hate me.


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[Assistant] And support Ryan Wilson, go subscribe to that podcast. Let's get those numbers up. They'll know it's coming from here. It'll make us look good. It'll make y'all look good.


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[Assistant] And, uh, we can give away some Paramount Plus gift cards too.


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[Assistant] We can weigh 10 of them. Hell, I don't care. Get us the one, his best lightweight. We get the 150, we're gonna weigh 10 of them.


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[Assistant] I had to, uh, this game was annoying because they, well, for me, because they acted like Derek Carr was dead when they cut through this thing. And I was like, well, I see actually like minus six and a half lives. I smashed them live and then, yeah, it's like.


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[Assistant] Josh Jacobs 33 carries 229 yards to touchdowns, including an 86 yard walk off rumble in overtime, which was probably seen by not many people because, uh, red zone had to cut away and it was only available on local CBS stations or on.


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[Assistant] Channel 713 on DirecTV. Uh, but Jacobs had a enormous game. Yeah, that does check out that I told somebody not to trade for Josh Jacobs and then he did that.


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[Assistant] Not as good as they could have, but the concerning thing for me was how badly their defense regressed to what we'd seen earlier in the year. I mean, 74 total points scoring this game. The Raiders are who we thought they were, but you know, Devontae Adams was


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[Assistant] Um, you know, makin' dudes miss out in the open field and Jacobs was just, just, I mean, he was just running for seven yards of carry. He was just dominating every time he touched the ball.


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[Assistant] I think the Raiders are kind of positioned to maybe let everyone take a step back and take a breath on the Josh McDaniels stuff. You're four and seven. It's not great, but you lost a bunch of one score games.


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[Assistant] By coming out and saying that he, he just sort of probably like deflated the pressure around that team and they're playing maybe a little more looser. They've been in all these one score games.


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[Assistant] Four and seven. It's not a great season by any stretch, obviously, but if they close stronger, win some games. I think I think everyone will take a little bit of a easier turn on the Raiders this offseason.


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[Assistant] Alright. Anyway, yes. Commanders, beat the Falcons. Commanders, as of...


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[Assistant] Right now, we're the seventh seed in the NFC.


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[Assistant] Let's uh, let's talk commanders and look at this NSC playoff picture.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Paul Karsiewicz gets pulled out of the starting lineup and they put Heineken and this team just sort of rallies around this guy because they don't have to deal with Heineken anymore.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I don't know if they're good, but I don't think they're bad.


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[Assistant] Can we not talk about this game and just talk about Brian Robinson's big hat? I can't stop thinking.


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[Assistant] 1930 in the final, by the way, Brian Robinson, 105 rushing yards. Uh, in the, do you, do we have a big hat photo available, Billy?


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't, I can't, I mean, I don't, I don't care. I know that like I'm like think about weird tangents and stuff. I can't stop thinking about this big hat. I mean, it doesn't make sense. Right. It. Have you ever seen anybody else wearing a big hat?


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[Assistant] And he's asked about, he said, my friend said this guy was on a shark tank. He makes these big hats and he's like, this is going to be the new style. And he's wearing that big hat to support his buddy. And I.


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[Assistant] I have, I'm sure that more than more times than not, I am the one who is in the wrong direction. I mean, it looks like he doesn't know what's cool when it comes to fashion.


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[Assistant] Is this, okay, what are the 5.5% chance Aaron Rodgers comes back next year? What is the percentage? By the way, if you can't, if you haven't, if you're listening to the podcast, go to, um, Sam Fortier's, uh, Twitter account. It's, it's got like 150,000 likes. What is the percent chance that these


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[Assistant] Yeah, that, yes. Yeah. These hats are $75 a piece. You can make them fully customizable for 125. Now this is like, so, um, I think apparently Brian Robinson was at Alabama with the guy who created the big hats, daughter, they became friends. And so he's tried to help them out. He's like, somebody's like, what's the inspiration for the big hat? He's like,


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[Assistant] It's my, my friend's, uh, friend's dad and I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to, trying to support their, their biz and they were on Shark Tank. I don't know if they got any money, but.


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[Assistant] Where the titans big, a big hat. So I have a couple of questions. One.


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[Assistant] Uh, is this exactly like the puffy shirt situation from Seinfeld? No. Okay, in the sense that big hats, so you think big hats will become a thing? Big hats are a thing.


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[Assistant] Have you ever seen a person in real life, like in your real life, not on Twitter? Yea, there was a Titans one. No, you have not seen anyone wearing a big hat, have you?


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[Assistant] Okay, but my second question is like too, what is the functionality? Like what is, what does the big hat do for you that wouldn't do?


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[Assistant] Right, right, but the big hat is not a natural part of the body.


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[Assistant] Should we do a podcast where we all wear big hats and or start growing HQ in big hats? Yes.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's move on. We can't be talkative. You gotta order one.


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[Assistant] San Francisco, seven and four, the four seed table may five and six. And then the, uh, the wild cards all currently in FCE teams, Dallas, right behind Philly.


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[Assistant] Uh, just two games, Giants in the sixth seed and then Washington in the seventh seed. Right now we would have Washington. These are some.


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[Assistant] Something else, these, these UFC playoff games that the season ended today. Washington at Minnesota.


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[Assistant] I feel like Taylor Heinecke and crew could pull it up set there. Just think it's interesting.


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[Assistant] No, I didn't say that. I just said that. I, of course Washington beat Tampa Bay. I mean, I just think, I think that two, that two, seven matchup is not.


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[Assistant] What's the line there? Minnesota minus six, five and a half or six.


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[Assistant] Uh, Giants at San Francisco. That is a truck stick coming.


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[Assistant] It's like 12 and a half, it gets steamed at 14, that's right. And then Dallas at Tampa Bay, which is a pretty spicy matchup.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, it has to be Tampa Bay, right? No, I'm asking you. It's your, it's your choice.


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[Assistant] I would say, I guess the answer is a.


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[Assistant] I'll say Dallas, but I think the answer is probably an NFC South team.


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[Assistant] Who's going to be first? The one, sorry, I misinterpreted that. Who's going to be, you took a terrible job asking the question.


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[Assistant] Who's going to be the one seed, who can steal the one seed from Philly? That's what you're saying. There you go. San Francisco's good answer.


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[Assistant] Can any of, so Seattle could definitely make the playoffs at six and five.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Atlanta five and seven, Detroit four and seven, four and eight.


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[Assistant] Cause you know, everyone's so hyped. I mean, he, he, he was, he got up and it was fine after that, but it like, you know, if it, if, if it had gone the wrong way, no matter how quickly, like this team that we, everyone's getting hyped up for the 49ers could. Yeah. Jimmy G gets hurt and it's, it's.


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[Assistant] I mean, I actually watched all this game because I had a Patrick Mahomes stat. It was, it was the Fox game of the week and then Stafford ended up playing.


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[Assistant] Uh, Mr. Parkins, 13 to 2300 yards, one touchdown, two picks.


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[Assistant] The chiefs at no point were in any concern whatsoever about the Rams winning this game. They went one and six in the red zone.


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[Assistant] Dolphins steamrolled the Texans. They already did nothing at halftime. They actually didn't score a single point in the second half. And with two minutes to go, I also had two of stacks. Thanks a lot. With two minutes to go in the third quarter, they pulled to a


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[Assistant] Jeff Wilson had been banged up. Tehran Armstrong had suffered a strain.


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[Assistant] Basically might be Dana was too worried to have I get hurt. He had almost suffered a really bad injury right before halftime. I was able to walk off.


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[Assistant] And so they pulled all their players and the Texas put together like some weird drives. The dolphins did nothing with Skyler Thompson in there. And, uh, Houston managed to get to within 30 to 15 with the ball, the chance to score. Dolphin Stevens had a touchdown too. It was, it was a real false hope run by a one 91 Texans team that is truly pathetic. And I think, I mean, the Texans are much, much worse than they were last year under David.


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[Assistant] Offense are good though. Panthers. Road.


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[Assistant] I was, I was asked about that on the, um, on the Panthers pregame show, uh, with my buddy Jim Zocchi and.


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[Assistant] He's like, I was like, look, you know, here, the deal is like Russ, the ownership is going to look at this and say, this is Nathaniel Hackett problem. We'll hire somebody who will come over here and work with Ross. And I think that just because of Russell Wilson's stature.


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[Assistant] Despite this year that it will be, it will be an attractive job. The Broncos is still an attractive job, right?


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[Assistant] If, like, the Panthers just beat the, like, this game wasn't close at all. I mean, the Panthers dominated this game. 23-7 final score. If, would you rather take the Panthers job or the Broncos job?


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[Assistant] Yes, he got yelled at by his defense. He's a pain to work with. He's not good right now.


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[Assistant] He, you're stuck with him for the next three years. He demands, like, he won't read off the wristband and he demands. No, I think Frank Reich.


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[Assistant] Caroline's this, this is the same, by the way, do you see the same Donald fire drill touchdown?


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[Assistant] So he, uh, they did a read option play and he, he takes the ball and he's running in and he starts to get tackled. And he, as he's getting tackled, he falls, he drops the ball.


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[Assistant] He recovers the ball and then he does. Oh yeah. He does like three or four rolls into the end zone because he was untouched. It was, it was like this drop and roll is amazing. Um, DJ Moore playing pretty well as of late.


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[Assistant] Make up your minds. All four teams are under 500. Anything is fair game in this division, man. No, that's fair. I won't argue with that part of it. Uh, let me just do this. So my, um, real quick.


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[Assistant] Should, should, uh, David Tepper give Steve Wilkes the job next year?


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[Assistant] Well, it was reported, but that's a huge deal though. Like, I mean, it was reported that most, like essentially 34 million, the majority of $34 million to be offset by the Nebraska job. Cause you got.


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[Assistant] 8 years, 72 million from the corn huskers, which sure.


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[Assistant] That, but that allows Tepper to be a little more aggressive with going out and trying to give somebody a time on music care.


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[Assistant] Do we have any losers for breaches newsletter? Waiters and losers.


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[Assistant] Uh, you, you, you blew it. It's Trevor Lawrence, dummy. That's my winner. I'll take, I'll take Trevor Lawrence as a winner and then somebody else can take Zach Wilson as a loser.


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[Assistant] What do we have them like every other week? My loser, Zach Wilson, Mike White goes out and lights up the pair. So you're like a little, there's a graphic they showed during the Fox broadcast. It was like second half production by the jets last week is like 2.6 inches per play.


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[Assistant] Make sure you go subscribe to with the first pick on your podcast platform. You can watch it on our YouTube channel as well. Uh, for. Buddy Mcbreacherson for Ryan Wilson. I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] I know, I actually said today, I actually just mentioned this to Billy, I think.


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[Assistant] How you went above and beyond to pump up the show with the tweets. Yeah. Asked it. Brent Breach. Princeton asked a great question in the chat.


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[Assistant] Yeah. No, I appreciate it. And in fact, that told me more about Brinson than it did about you, Breach. Cause I didn't hear one compliment from you all day today. And Brinson went above and beyond the call of duty. And I do want to say.


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[Assistant] Keep the nerves. I just wanted to get the read right. But uhm, the folks in the chat were great. Thank you for all the compliments. Thank you for subscribing. And keep the questions coming. Rick is, is a open book. And uh, he told a fantastic story, Breeches, about how they landed Justin Jefferson.


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[Assistant] But uhm, he's like, he's an open book and you can ask him questions and typically he'll answer them and which is interesting because you don't get a lot of that. I mean, the dude was the GM for the last 10 years. Yeah. And he's only been on CBS for a few months. So anyway, thank you everyone for that. That was fantastic. I appreciate all the support as Breach probably calls it. I got a question.


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[Assistant] Nathan Graver McCray says, it's welcome to the Big Hat Chat. So let's go.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this feels like, not to date myself and sound like I'm an old person, but this is a whole my beer situation that feels like, uh, Breach, I'll just ask you this because you, you come off as quote unquote smart when it comes to late game decision making.


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[Assistant] That Jeff Saturday had checked out in much the same way that Jason Garrett checked out towards the end of his Dallas tenure where he just sort of stood over there staring blankly into the abyss.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I'm watching right now, they got the ball down to the 22 after the scramble, 50 seconds when Matt Ryan went down, 33 seconds when they snapped the ball. That's not a lot of time. When you're on offense, it averages 1.5 yards per...


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[Assistant] I don't have a rational explanation, Breach. Do you have anything that could come close to making sense?


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[Assistant] I get that if you're talking about the Bills or the Chiefs, but we're talking about an offense that could barely fall forward for a yard and a half.


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[Assistant] And knowing that, it feels like you would want every single second. And also knowing that the fact that the Steelers offense isn't very good, even though they played as well as they played ever this season tonight. I feel like there's no explanation rationally that explains what the hell happened.


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[Assistant] Uh, at the end of that game. And also adding insult to injury if you're a Colts fan. When the Steelers got the ball back with 20 seconds to go and the Colts still had two or three timeouts.


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[Assistant] Saturday, yeah, forget it. It's not, hit it two times. It's not worth it because we're going to lose anyway. So we're not even going to make them snap it twice. We'll just let the clock run out and I'll go shake hands and get out of here.


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[Assistant] Hope is not a plan. Clarency you ask in the comments and this is a fair question because the big thing with


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[Assistant] Jeff Saturday when he gave that press conference where he was the, the, the only one that didn't look a hostage in that room is that his job is to be a leader and a motivator and let his coaches coach. And Clarence, you asked, isn't his only job game management? Well.


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[Assistant] Oh, he never once called a timeout during his high school coaching career. That's interesting.


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[Assistant] What if the rest of the AFC South says, you know what, we'll waive the Rooney rule, just go ahead and hire Jeff Saturday.


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[Assistant] Can I say that this sounds like when you catch your eight year old in a lie and they didn't think about what the answer to the lie has to be and they're trying to make it up as they go along and you're like, oh my God, this, this poor eight year old has no idea what he's lying about. Just, just admit that you stole the cookies. I don't know what that means. That doesn't make any sense. What he just said.


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[Assistant] Alright, so you're no longer defending him. Hey, uh, Billy, put that, um, question back up there from, from Jen Silveis, cause I think that's an interesting one. Is Saturday even the worst coach in the league right now? Uh, in my humble opinion, no, Jen says.


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[Assistant] We'll play a quick game, uh, Breach and Brinson. Nathaniel Hackett or Jeff Saturday? Jeff Saturday.


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[Assistant] I mean, it doesn't matter, any team, yeaah. Uh, okay, Cliff Kingsbury or Jeff Saturday?


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[Assistant] Just Saturday's the answer. And finally, another name mentioned, Josh McDaniels is mentioned in the comments. No, I'm taking McDaniels. The other one that you gotta mention is Lovey Smith. I'm taking Josh McDaniels. Well, that, that situation's so fubar. It's hard to, I mean, no one's...


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[Assistant] Bill Belichick's going, uh, whatever their record is with that team. I, I don't know. Levi Smith, it probably was at home on the couch. He didn't accept.


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[Assistant] I don't know, that team seemed lost. They seem equally as lost now. They beat the Raiders who obviously have lost a lot of close games and aren't a very good football team in terms of the scoreboard. But, uh, yes.


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[Assistant] He missed a couple throws, but at the end of the day, he's a rookie and I don't care that he's 38 years old. He's still his first year in the NFL. Uh, he did a lot of good things. Well, he's being handcuffed by Matt Canada, but whatever. I can't do anything about that. So I'm just going to enjoy that Kenny Pickett played well. I was begging for George Pickett to get the ball. I don't hate Pickett, Billy. Uh, I was.


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[Assistant] You can't get away from them. But yeah, no, here's what typically happens at least the last few weeks. Steelers start off strong in the first half and then they have no answers in the second half. As Breach knows last week, I don't think they scored any points. Uhm, they tried to score any points in this game. They were up 13-0 by the third quarter or maybe early fourth. They were down 17-16.


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[Assistant] And then they needed the, the, the, the Colts to implode like only this Colts team can. And that certainly helped them get that offense jumpstarted again.


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[Assistant] A couple big throws by Kenny Pickett after some three outs early to start the second, second half. And, uh, you know, it's a good win.


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[Assistant] The worst case scenario is that they're not going to be in position to draft Will Anderson or Jalen Carter, but that's a conversation for later.


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[Assistant] Hey Breach, let me ask you this. How are you feeling on the nervous scale about Kenny Pickett's progress this year as a Bengals fan?


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[Assistant] I think the bigger issue is no office of coordinator. I'm thinking back, I think Ken Winsun Hunt was, was Big Ben's, uh, OC his first year and then, who'd you, oh, uhm.


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[Assistant] So, I mean, and then you throw Matt Cannon in there, that's like, which one of these doesn't belong? That hasn't helped either. And I, whatever, you can make.


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[Assistant] I mean, we were talking about joking in the first half. He ran on every freaking first down it felt like, and then he ran on a second, uh, eight and then a second and 15 in the first half. I mean.


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[Assistant] I'm convinced that Najay's hurt. I mean, he had the foot injury coming, obviously he's hurt because he came out of the game, but coming into this game and all season. He had the foot injury in preseason.


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[Assistant] He never looked like he did last year. I don't think the tires have blown off the car after just one year of overuse. And to your point, Breech, Benny Snell, who hasn't played at all this year, except for special teams, looks like a beast. And Anthony McFarlane, who just got called from the practice squad, looks like a beast.


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[Assistant] That to me says Najee isn't 100%. So unfortunately, there's still going to be the Trent Richardson comparisons, which, you know, that probably doesn't make him feel good.


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[Assistant] And Victor Garcia mentioned in the comments, Jalen Warden was out tonight with an injury. Hopefully he'll be back. I'm not sure if it'll be next week or not.


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[Assistant] Hold on, don't tell us. Let me guess, who has better playoff odds, the Steelers or the Colts? I think it actually...


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say the Colts have a better chance of making the playoffs. What do you think Breach?