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[Assistant] The first three quarters of the season that it's pretty easy to say, all right, we're going to, we're going to pick up that fifth year option on him. We're not going to give him a contract over the third year. Let's see what he does in the fourth year. And this all changes, of course, if you know, to us somehow gets to the playoffs and wins two playoff games and looks great doing it and is fine over the next two weeks. But just the last four weeks, you know,


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[Assistant] Stevenson's figuring out to figure out might retain his offense, not able to adjust it, you know, and you saw Wilson almost Wilson said something on Sunday night. It was like.


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[Assistant] Two of throws with like almost so much anticipation that maybe sometimes he's throwing too early and it ends up looking like a terrible pick because it's before Tyree Kill or Jalen Waddle can get out of their breaks, which is, you know, seems impossible. I just think it's a matter of you're not going to be, you know,


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[Assistant] You're not going to be like, you're just not going to give this guy a huge contract when you can.


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[Assistant] Say listen, we want to see another year of you, you know, we got the fourth, fourth year, fourth year of the contract, fifth year option. This is not a guy who's going to hold out. And then if you need to, you can franchise tag him and you can sort of drag that. You can drag out that process another three years past this season without having to commit to a huge long-term deal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for sure. And again, to your point, you know, they had that five game winning streak where he vaulted up to that MVP stretch and it's, you know, the Steelers, lions, bears, Browns and in Texas. I mean, that's a.


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[Assistant] That's bad defenses that they're feasting on and you have the bye week in between. And then, you know, it's just very, um, yin and yang here between the, and it matches up with the schedule. And that just becomes, I think it just becomes problematic when you start talking about, can we give this guy a massive contract?


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[Assistant] Is he worth, is he worth that? But we do think that the question, like, Tua is probably the franchise quarterback?


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[Assistant] You're not, you're not trying, like you're Tom Brady, I mean, alright, let me ask you this.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady comes to Miami this off season and says, I want to, like, I want to just run this back. You know, they talked about doing it before this year. Do you replace 2-0 with Tom Brady?


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[Assistant] I don't. I don't think you do either. You don't. Because Tom, you're getting two years max out of Tom. He hasn't played well for the Buccaneers.


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[Assistant] You know, he'll be energized being in the AFC East and, and, and playing for a different team and, and coming in hot and working in a might be Daniel offense. Um, it would, you know, he would be good in that offense. Like let's, let's not sugar coat it. Uh, you're not going to bootleg him or anything, but you're talking about just dropping back.


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[Assistant] Finding Tyree kill in jail and waddle underneath and you've got the good run game and the offensive line to suffer some injuries and that, uh, and that, you know, doesn't exactly help to his case, but yeah, I agree with that. I don't think, I don't think you would want to replace two with Tom Brady just because you were trying to build for the long haul and.


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[Assistant] You know, you're basically hitting the reset button. You're hoping you can cash in with a Super Bowl in a two year window with a Tom Brady, a version of Tom Brady who looked a little washed up.


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[Assistant] Before the season, if you'd said they're going to get Sean Payton and Tom Brady, like, yeah, you just do that, you know, of course, you know, if it, if it, you know, you move on from Tua and whoever else the next coach was going to be, it's worth it to try to get that combination and think about what they could do over to your span. Now, when you find out that.


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[Assistant] You know, Tua can play, it might be Daniel looks like a really good head coach. And again, like we, I sort of talked, we talked about this on.


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[Assistant] Sunday's recap, Bob, but like if you told dolphins fans that they would be, uh, what? Eight and seven and.


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[Assistant] In the playoff haunt with a ve- with a, you know, a s- what'd I c- what'd I say? 80%? 60%? 80%? 80%? I gotta-


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[Assistant] Yeah, right, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. 65% an hour, 60, into 60% to make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a good point. And it's like a lot of times it takes more than one year for the, you know, these quarterbacks, you know, figure out these systems and to get, to get, you know, to get in a position where they feel comfortable operating in that system, um, you know, to learn, look,


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[Assistant] The more offensive coordinators you have to deal with, the more coaching turnover you have to deal with, the more complex, complicated it becomes and complex it becomes to learn a new system every single year. I mean, it just, when guys, when guys watch out, a lot of times you see it is because there's a ton of change over or change and turn over the coaching and offensive coordinator position. So I agree with that. I think it's a good call. Uh, any, anything else onto a, I mean,


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[Assistant] I don't want to say that, like, I don't think these next two games will decide his fate at all. I think we're sort of...


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[Assistant] We are where we are with Tua and it's just a matter of, okay, let's, let's, you know.


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[Assistant] The next two, the next two weeks are going to decide what kind of scrutiny two is going to get over the course of this offseason. What kind of scrutiny, what kind of like,


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[Assistant] You know, when they're doing the talk show stuff, like how, like how, how, cause you know, Tua was like, Tua was catnip for talk show, talk, you know, the, the hot debate shows or the debate, the, the, you know, hot take debate shows this off season. Will we see him?


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[Assistant] Be, be similar catnip this off season or can you, you know, can they win the next two games, get in the playoffs, maybe win a playoff game. And then all of a sudden it's like, all right, we know where we are. It's just Kennedy growth and progress off of this. Or is this sort of, are they flatlined, et cetera, et cetera.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like 17 degrees here in North Carolina right now. It's like global warming, probably not a thing. Um, but anyway, uh, yeah. And then, you know, you get the jets at home. So, you know, you're, you're talking about Mike wider, maybe Zach Wilson. It's a pretty good setup for, for two, uh, to, to win the last two games, getting the playoffs with 10 wins. Everyone agrees. This is a successful season.


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[Assistant] And a good pairing. And then if you make some noise in the playoffs, more power to you, but either way you go into a year or two with might be Daniel year forward to a, where you say, can they take a big leap forward?


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[Assistant] With a full off season and if they do, maybe we start to really talk about to us as a guy that could be getting a monster contract and an MVP candidate as he was earlier this season.


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[Assistant] That'll do it for us. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. We'll be back to recap Monday Night Football later tonight. Be sure to tune in and subscribe. Turn on alerts. For Sully, I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Big Six Podcast, CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm your host.


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[Assistant] The regular season, the 2022 regular season is over. We know our playoff teams. We pretty fun. Week 18, I thought joining me to talk about it. Ryan Wilson and John breach. Hello, gentlemen. Hope you're doing well.


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[Assistant] I love it, like, Ry Wilson loves to say that we live in a simulation and, but the biggest example of us living in simulation is Wilson winning the against the spread fix for two years around CBS, despite not really caring about gambling and just sort of throwing it against the wall randomly every week.


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[Assistant] Hey, if you're watching on YouTube, youtube.com slash pick six, we're live after every prime time game. They would be, I don't know what our plan schedule will be per se. We'll definitely be live on Sunday nights. We'll see what else we want to do, but subscribe, turn on alerts and you'll get notified when we go live. That way you.


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[Assistant] Can jump in and hang out with us. And for the most part, just berate me and chat, apparently.


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[Assistant] I've turned chat back on. I said, corporate, I don't care about you. You've turned chat back on, baby. Uhm, there are people in chat saying, don't go and rinse them. There's plenty of dunking to go around here.


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[Assistant] So we're going to start off the show by talking about chase Claypool and what a great day it was for the bears. I'm just kidding. We're going to talk about elsewhere in the NFC North, the Packers got swept by the lions. My, my, my, my, my.


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[Assistant] The fourth quarter, a total disaster for Green Bay, 14 yards, one first down Green Bay Detroit had 118 yards and 10 first downs of the fourth quarter. Jared golf topples Aaron Rogers in Lambeau field.


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[Assistant] Dan Campbell can coach by it was the line. I think it's from, um, it's from the original top gun, but it's like, you can be my wingman any day. Dan Campbell can coach my team any day. Like that dude laid it all in the line, despite not having anything on the line.


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[Assistant] Just to beat the Packers and knock them out of the playoffs to get a winning record, nine and eight incredible year for the Lions Packers are sent packing and the Seahawks are in to the playoffs heading to San Francisco. Good luck with that one. I thought maybe.


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[Assistant] And what we can get into this a little bit, I guess, but you know, Aaron Rodgers after the game, Breach.


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[Assistant] Jameson Williams comes up to him and says, Hey man, let me get that Jersey. He goes, I think I'm gonna hold onto this one.


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[Assistant] Is it a bigger story that the Packers got swept by the Lions or is it a bigger story that Rogers?


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[Assistant] So probably before the game, um.


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[Assistant] Say bye, uh, two and seven. No, no, two and eight. No, no, no, sorry. Two and six. One and seven.


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[Assistant] What? Joseph, you're notably, uh, quote tweeted Ryan Wilson's evaluation of him. Senior draft analyst, Ryan Wilson.


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[Assistant] Aaron Rodgers is in the playoffs. He's actually probably the sixth seed if they don't get swept by the Lions.


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[Assistant] I do think, I do think it's reasonable to ask, would the Lions have run the screen hook and ladder play on that, on that spot and would they have gone for it? Now, if the Seahawks had lost.


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[Assistant] Uh, we're getting a lot of questions in the chat about uh, uh, Quay Walker. Yeah.


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[Assistant] He shoved an athletic trainer. I think what happened, my guess.


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[Assistant] It went from a 40 yard field goal attempt to a 33 yard chip shot. The Packers were not a good team this year. They got a chance to...


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[Assistant] This helps with the, the echo. That's why I mentioned it. 90% of the podcasts. Well, I would say like 10% of the podcasts. I'm talking 90% of the podcasts. Right.


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[Assistant] No, no, it's a, it's a, I think that feedback thing is not, it's something else. Let me, um.


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[Assistant] I mean, you're one six and you go to nine and eight and you've got.


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[Assistant] Nine and eight. Dan Cable's got three years minimum before anyone, like, three


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[Assistant] There's too many candidates. I don't disagree, but there's too many candidates. Like, I mean, Sirianni, Doug Peterson,


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[Assistant] No, no, he'll get some votes, especially if they do the three thing now. Alright, uhm, let's move on to the Cincinnati Bengals, who, look.


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[Assistant] Congratulations on beating the Ravens. That was pretty fortunate to beat the...


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[Assistant] Right. Not fortunate. It was like, it's fortunate for all of us and they beat the Ravens because I think that the NFL and I know that it was trying circumstances over the last. Exactly.


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[Assistant] The fact that the NFL would cancel, like I, I, I, the Bengals got screwed.


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[Assistant] And they're not getting, they're not getting, they're not being, it all worked out in the end, technically, mostly for the NFL.


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[Assistant] You should be pretty furious because the bingles handled the DeMar Hamlin thing with so much class and like.


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[Assistant] Like so much deference to Buffalo and to their players and to their coaches and to their fans and did everything right.


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[Assistant] And then the interval is like, well, you may win the division.


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[Assistant] But if you lose to the Ravens on Sunday, we're going to do a coin flip. Decided you'd go to Baltimore and play a playoff game. That is, it's unacceptable. What's your solution?


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[Assistant] By the way, Chad Ojo Seiko, he's never been on the podcast, but I mean, I used to, we used to, you know.


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[Assistant] Our buddy Chad Otrosyko, we used to host a show with him in Fort Lauderdale for CBS, tweeted last night, he's like, if you guys love me the way I love you.


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[Assistant] Somewhat every, I would bet there were like five or six Bengals who had coins in their gloves. Whoever scores the first touchdown, you do the coin toss touchdown. I would bet, I bet if you asked him, we need to text, we need to text our buddy, Paul Dana Jr.


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[Assistant] I would bet, I would bet T Higgins, Chamar Chase, Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixon and definitely Hayden Hurst all had coins in their gloves. Like you put a dime in your glove and like, if you put it underneath a thing, I mean, I'd be fine, right?


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[Assistant] It was bingles, bingles, smoke the Ravens. We have no idea of Lamar Jackson's going to play in this game. We will talk about playoff matchups down the road. Bingles Ravens. You know, it's funny, Wilson, if this were like bingo Steelers and Andy Dalton was the bingo's quarterback breach would be pale as a ghost nervous as hell.


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[Assistant] And like he, he has no concerns whatsoever about beating the Ravens.


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[Assistant] It was, uh, what was the, what was the biggest gap there? 24, seven, 24, seven and a half. With Anthony Brown at quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, uh, 24, 10, 24, 10, the third quarter. That's.


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[Assistant] There's two, I mean, you know, a score and then a weird fluky play from your backup quarterback who gives the ball to the Ravens and all of a sudden it's tied. I don't, I don't disagree with you. I just.


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[Assistant] The bingles, I think, I think the bingles are, I want the bingles to win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Like just shove it in the NFL's face. Like the NFL screwed the big ones over and Joe, but like, I think the big ones are going to win the Superbowl. That's my hot take. I think, I think, I think, I think there was nothing stupider than making Joe burrow mad in like late in mid to late January. And he's about to go on a ripper and cut through the AFC. That's what I think is going to happen.


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[Assistant] Yes, that's Na'vi. NC State legend, baby.


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[Assistant] The 11th player in InfoHistory with two kick-off returns in a game. Do you, uh, I'll give you, uh, one Brinston block if you name the last person to do it.


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[Assistant] Uh, I'll bill you a warm breakfast, uh, warm, frozen breakfast burrito.


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[Assistant] If you didn't get Goosebumps for that, you're either Ryan Wilson or you're, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, but I think it's a stream yard thing with the audio stuff because it's happened the last two shows. I don't know.


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[Assistant] But like in the NFC, if you, if you said, I'll take the top three, like, I don't know, the AFC just feels like it's going to be one of those three teams.


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[Assistant] The Super Bowl line should be AFC minus four minus five and a half.


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[Assistant] My point is you're almost, you feel, you feel, not guaranteed, but you feel very good about getting bangles.


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[Assistant] Oh, sorry, we're talking about this with, uh, Drew and Andy of, uh, the deep dive pod, but Wilson, I know this is one of your favorite moments. Remember Josh Allen's first playoff game?


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[Assistant] We're talking about in the light of like San Francisco. Who was it? Who was the Texas?


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[Assistant] Then the Texas were up like 27, nothing on the chiefs. It feels like 400 years ago. Um, okay.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm not worried about Josh Allen in big games in big spots. So run defense, I would say. All right. I mean, but I'm not worried about Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] In theory, if you want, if you wanted to do a winter's losers thing, you could, because he snuck into the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Somebody who's like throwing out, he might be on the hot seat, which is outrageous.


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[Assistant] So I'm going to, I don't know if it's a me thing or a stream art thing, but I'm going to try and fix something. So Billy's going to pop on. I'm going to leave.


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[Assistant] Try to do some audio engineering here and fix the feedback issue because it's terrible and it's unacceptable for a podcast. So Billy, your Eagles clutch, the number one seed. Very excited for you. Tell Wilson a breach about it.


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[Assistant] Shout out to our, our, our old colleague, Sean Weigberg Gough, who once read a flowery profile on his former, uh, alumni from UC UCAL Berkeley.


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[Assistant] Hopefully my technological, uh, improvements have fixed this bill. You get on, uh, the Eagles here.


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[Assistant] We mentioned the Mike Tyler winning season. Do you want to touch on that a little bit further, Wilson?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I actually got like a bunch of people to like adding me on Instagram today who were like, you need to take a victory laugh on Wilson and breach over the Chase Claypool trade because that was a disaster.


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[Assistant] There was like a 15 minute thing where y'all berating me like, it's a second round pick. That'd mean that much. I said, there's a chance it's the top 35 pick. And I'm pretty sure if you pull the tape that Wilson's like, there's no chance of hell because the Bears had one, two out of like the Bears were like two and four at that point.


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[Assistant] Whatever they, whatever they were. Look, look, I mean, I'm spiteful enough to go back and find the tape. Well, no.


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[Assistant] Um, what's really interesting I think is that there are like in a ton of really good candidates for coach of the year. You could go with, I mean, obviously I'm sort of starting from the interstate west and moving up, but like Kyle Shanahan, Pete Carroll, nobody in the interstate south clearly.


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[Assistant] I mean, Kevin O'Connell, you have the Vikings may have lived in, but they're 13 at four. Dan Campbell at nine and eight is a candidate. Um, obviously Nick Sirianni.


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[Assistant] I don't, after today, I can't give it to Brandon Staley either. Doug Peterson, of course, is in the mix. Zach Taylor deserves some consideration. I'm not sure John Harbaugh should be ruled out. Mike Tomlin, 10 and seven with no Lamar for a month.


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[Assistant] I'm just, I'm just, I'm saying there have been some really good coaching jobs. Mike Tomlin, nine and eight with that team. Good coaching job. Sean McDermott, 13 and three deserves nod. I think I would probably give it to.


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[Assistant] What their expectations, but remember 2017 bills with Sean McDermott did not win the award. Moving along to whatever else the Jags won on Saturday. So you have terrible coaches or great coaches like Peterson, urban Meyer. I got an urban Meyer. What a loser.


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[Assistant] I mean, you do things like Urban Meyers tenure in Jacksonville, couldn't possibly get any worse. And then the Jaguars go and win the division the next year with a semi-competent head coach in Doug Peterson. That happened on Saturday night. Shout out to me, the only person on planet earth to pick the Jaguars to win the division before the season. Victory lap numero dos.


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[Assistant] Everyone, everyone bet the Jags. It's like, yeah, everyone bet the Jags at like seven to one or eight to one. Nobody picked the Jags just to win the division with like, like no odds. I was gave away seven to one like CLV. No one picked the Jag. I'm no juice box boy.


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[Assistant] I guess we're technically supposed to talk about Lovey Smith getting fired.


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[Assistant] Mike Williams was carted off and he still left the starters in there. And again, this is the guy who.


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[Assistant] Has rested every single relative and or pertinent player for every single preseason game, AKA a meaningless game.


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[Assistant] For the tenure of his, for the entire tenure of his coaching career.


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[Assistant] And in a week 18 game when they could not move up or down in the seedings, he put his franchise quarterback out there.


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[Assistant] His two best wide receivers, his stud running back.


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[Assistant] And every one of his defensive players out there against the Broncos who were trying hard.


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[Assistant] What's that? And still lost and lost. That was, that was a, it made no sense. It makes no sense. And if Mike Williams didn't play next week, then Brandon Staley has some questions to answer.


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[Assistant] If you got contract incentives, you want to get records, do what you got to do. If you're in the first quarter, then pull them out of there. Playing them after halftime is coaching malpractice. I'm sorry. It just is.


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[Assistant] Well, then that's an, that's a bigger problem. I mean, that's why, I mean, you would hope you had the conversation.


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[Assistant] He literally played multiple quarterbacks and like five different, they only had four of them active by the way. So it was Kenan, Mike, Josh Palmer, Deandre Carter. That's, that's, that's bad coaching.


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[Assistant] You could have, you could, they have, they could have sat every meaningful offensive player, which is how they can win in the postseason.


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[Assistant] And, and, and not, not been concerned about the injury status. It was, it was just bad coaching.


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[Assistant] If, if, if it's Herbert with back spasms and not Mike Williams, we are having, it is a full on two hours tomorrow, first take roasting or Brandon's daily and how he botched his chance to win a playoff game.


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[Assistant] I know what he said. He always says this. He's, I, I, I don't know if I like Celia or not. All right, let's take a break. Oh, actually one more. Dak. One more game. Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. Who wrote this in the rundown, but looks like ass. He turned into Ron Burgundy.


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[Assistant] Looks like ass. They look so, look like cheats as the kids say. They look terrible against Washington. Shout out to, uh, Sam Howell for becoming the next great Washington, uh, uh, sports superstar. I mean, you tell it like the chargers, the Cowboys are the two. And for different reasons, I thought the Cowboys could have pulled their guys too.


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[Assistant] Chargers needed to pull their guys. Cowboys at least were like watching the, in theory, watching the Eagles game.


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[Assistant] The Cowboys look terrible and there's no reason to feel remotely confident about them in the super wild card weekend. Ryan Wilson, when they go to play my guy, Thomas Edward Brady.


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[Assistant] There's nothing I want more in life than to spend the next, uh, four weeks.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady versus Joe Burrow in the circle. Wow. Hellscape for Breach with Tom Brady. Tom Brady. My two favorite formats in the game.


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[Assistant] Let's take a break. We'll come back and look at the playoff grid, the bracket.


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[Assistant] It's matchups. Talk about how far Tom Brady can make it in the playoffs until he meets Joe Burrow next.


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[Assistant] Okay. We got a bracket. I love the playoff bracket. Uh, get like general rating. So we've seen the wild card. We can schedule. We see like, you know, the ASC, MSC bracket.


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[Assistant] How would you guys rate this? Like, you know, relative scale to normal playoff. Let's go one to 10.


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[Assistant] Like, like, do you think it's, I mean, cause it's not. How excited are we? Well, it's, it's, it's, I think it's gonna be like, it's a really, it could be crazy, but it's not like an elite. Cause there's no, um.


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[Assistant] This is not like there's, it could be crazy, but there's no, like, there's like one marquee matchup, maybe two or three. There's just not a ton of marquee matchups. I don't think. Let's see.


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[Assistant] I think we get chalk advancement on the AFC side of things where the bills move forward regardless of everybody's quarterback.


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[Assistant] Now, if I were ranking the quarterbacks, one, Mike Glennon, obviously two, Teddy Bridgewater, three, Skyler Thompson.


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[Assistant] The Bengals are going to torch the Ravens. Torch. Joe Burrows pissed off and he's going to smoke whoever he sees in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Lamar hadn't practiced in like a month. Uhm, the Chargers Jaguars game is interesting because you have Trevor Lawrence first play first playoff games. If you look at these like these


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[Assistant] There's not a lot of really good first playoff games from young quarterbacks ever. As Peyton Manning was 19 or 42, I think Tom Brady's, you know, Tom Brady's first, uh, playoff game was.


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[Assistant] And so you have Herbert first playoff game, Lawrence first playoff game. But to me, the big deciding factor is the fact that Brandon Stanley first playoff game versus Super Bowl winning coach Doug Peterson and he's at home. And I think the Chargers roster is generally better.


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[Assistant] But if that line's moved a point and a half already, like if you're giving me, if you're making the Jaguars dogs at home.


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[Assistant] Again, Staley, given what we've like, we have a minimal number of instances where he's been in key situations, coaching, like last year is a big red flag and Doug Peters has at least got the.


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[Assistant] I didn't sack to go for it. I want the Jags, Jags, Bengals, Bills advancing here. How about y'all?


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[Assistant] So look, Chargers Jaguars is going to be close. It just is. I think the biggest blow out the Ravens.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to find a third money line team here. Niners?


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[Assistant] You guess first. How do you not know what the points are for this game? It's your team.


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[Assistant] Well, this is a Stephen R projection. I'll say it's a 57%.


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[Assistant] Uh, I put out bills, Bengals, Niners, Moneyline, Parlay minus one 18. Don't hate that.


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[Assistant] And you basically get, you know, like a little bit worse than normal juice.


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[Assistant] At 49ers. Oh my god. Stop talking about anything around. See how much of the 49ers. Giants and the Vikings.


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[Assistant] Cowboys are the book. This is the, like the craziest trash. This is like, if, if your disposal stopped working.


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[Assistant] And you open it up, you're like, what is in here? And like, this is it. You're, you're starting quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] You have, you have six starting quarterbacks for the NFC wildcard round in 2022, technically 2023, I guess they are Eugene Cyril Smith, the third.


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[Assistant] This is a weird plot twist by the way that you've suddenly become like an oracle for


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[Assistant] It's all fun. I mean, it's all fun and games until you have, and this happens like in every walk of life. I feel like where you're, no, I mean, like you, like.


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[Assistant] I don't get nervous like sitting down in front of my computer doing a podcast with you goons, but like, you know,


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[Assistant] You're doing, I don't know, you do have like a Superbowl show.


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[Assistant] I don't get nervous, but you get a little, like the, the emotions are a little different.


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[Assistant] Like Brock Prodi has a week to think about the fact that he's the starter for the number two seat.


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[Assistant] So either one of two things are true. He's either irrationally confident, which I respect the hell out of, or he's going to be thinking a little bit as I pointed out.


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[Assistant] Brady Manning. There's, there's almost no young quarterbacks who have good first round playoff games. Hey, maybe but 19 of 42, man. Well, let me ask you this though.


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[Assistant] Here's a, here's a hot take. I think the 49ers would have preferred to see Aaron Rodgers to Gina Smith.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean. Do you know where the last time the 49ers lost a football game?


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[Assistant] And it's just like, I'm not sure Seattle could defend their run game.


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[Assistant] They have a rookie, rookie starting quarterback and he's going to pee his pants.


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[Assistant] And Gino had, and Gino's like a different situation cause he's a veteran, but he's never started a playoff game, right?


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[Assistant] It was, when I looked earlier, it was Vikings minus three, but giants plus three was plus one 15.


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[Assistant] Giants winning this game. Oh God, I forgot the Giants fans hate this, but like your call was some other way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I agree. The Vikings have all the better players and most of the spots except.


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[Assistant] If you look at the, uh, and unfortunately this goes down to, uh, Garrett Bradbury versus Dexter Lawrence. Like if you look at the giant's pass rush, he could, this game is going to be close.


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[Assistant] Like that's the bottom line. There's, you look at these two teams, the way they played these two this year, there's no effing way this game is insanely close and doesn't involve a late field goal or some crazy bat smell stuff that I mean, right? Like there's no one's going to blow somebody out here. I'm taking the three points if I can get it.


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[Assistant] I mean like the Vikings could go nuclear on offense too.


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[Assistant] They did, but like to your point, Wilson, this is where it feels like.


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[Assistant] This is actually a perfectly symmetrical matchup because the Giants have been a luck box for much of the season. And they're matching up against the ultimate luck box. They're basically playing roulette.


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[Assistant] I think the Giants record is better because of how well coached they are.


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[Assistant] Derrick Connell should be a top three to five, uh, coach of the year candidate.


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[Assistant] Cowboys minus it'd be like a suspicious Cowboys minus three and a half.


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[Assistant] Look, look, they are, if they need the Vikings, no, it's really crazy is if the Seahawks meet the 49ers.


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[Assistant] In the division round, you get Eagles hosting the Seahawks and Giants and even the Cowboys or Buccaneers at which point.


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[Assistant] Actually, you know what? I should go back to my original take. This is the 2017 bills. 2.0.


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[Assistant] Giants are going to get smoked by the Vikings and then there's going to be a good franchise for the next five years.


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[Assistant] Look at, look at this field, dude. Tom Brady, Tom Brady might be at the Superbowl.


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[Assistant] In the words of Jay Cutler at the urinal, don't care.


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[Assistant] Give me the bucks. They're beating the Cowboys. I just said that. My only concern is Todd Bowles.


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[Assistant] The box, the box, I think the box win two playoff games.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, I think, I, I think this is a prime spot to hammer the box.


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[Assistant] That was kind of fun. Uhm, alright. I'm going to put it back up for a second Billy.


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[Assistant] You've been hammering me for like six weeks, calling it a buck in the ears.


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[Assistant] They're terrible. Fine, pick the cowboys.


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[Assistant] All right, let's take a break when we come back. Lovey Smith's crazy decision to go for two that cost his former employer the number one pick. Next.


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[Assistant] They scored a touchdown. Gonna kick the extra point to tie it.


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[Assistant] And love. He said, Nope, F it. I'm going for two because I want to win the game. And he got fired on Sunday night. The Texans had the number one pick per our, uh, high level stat model from our senior draft analyst, Ryan Wilson, who goes to tankathon.com.


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[Assistant] Uh, before, sorry, uh, uh, Billy, can you toss up this headline? Cause I, this is a, this is the greatest headline on the planet.


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[Assistant] This is why the text is the worst team on the, like in the NFL, like, which is saying something with Dan Snyder in charge of a team and the Chicago Bears.


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[Assistant] Texas chairman and CEO Cal McNair denies Sage Roosevelt's claim of playing video games in his office.


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[Assistant] And multiple, like, beanbag chairs. It was Cal McNair, who currently runs a Texans breach, playing video games.


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[Assistant] Right now we need to talk about rapid fire mock drafts.


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[Assistant] I, I am inherently aware of how that works.


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[Assistant] This is true. So the bears have the number one pick for the first time since I think 1942, 47, 47. Thank you. All right, fine. I'll give you senior draft analyst. Sounds for that. If you had to do a rapid fire mock draft, top 10, what would it look like? Ryan Wilson?


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[Assistant] Depends on the head coach, but yes, generally speaking, no one wants to play for it.


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[Assistant] There were four teams who traded the future of first shot picks. Seattle traded one two or Denver traded one Seattle Rams to Detroit. Saints to Philly and the Browns to Houston. Who regrets it the most?


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[Assistant] Yeah, not Seattle because they made the playoffs and got the pick.


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[Assistant] If Sean Payton takes that job, which has been rumored.


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[Assistant] I am, I'm concerned about dragging Russ because I feel like Sean Payton could make Russ


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[Assistant] How dare you. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Congratulations to the Bengals for making the playoffs. The Steelers for getting very close.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast. CBS Sports daily and a fun podcast. I'm Bill Brinton. I'm your host. It's a Wednesday.


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[Assistant] Almost the New Year's edition, is that what this is? This is the, the, the last, the last time we'll see each other in 2022, Brady.


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[Assistant] Don't you hate people who say that? It's the worst joke there is.


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[Assistant] Crazy stuff. Your boy Josh Dandle said enough is enough!


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[Assistant] You're leading the league of interceptions. I got a huge bet on somebody else to lead the league of interceptions. You're benched.


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[Assistant] Christmas is still going on at the Princeton household. Absolutely. We go through the new year. Actually, no, we, uh, we toss the tree out the day after, like, like within.


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[Assistant] And my mom's like, all right, everybody get up and get that tree out of my house. Uh, I sort of actually like Josh Mcgabe was treating Derek Carr. All right, Derek Carr, get up, get out of my house. I think it's, I think it comes out. It's not even, I don't believe it's even the new league year. I think it's like, it's like three days after the super bowl.


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[Assistant] Is when his contract is fully guaranteed, isn't it? Or did I read that wrong? We're not fully guaranteed.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'll look it up, but the larger point being is he has to pass, he has to pass a physical. And if he gets hurt, um, in the final two games of the season, it would mean that he is due, you know, an extra $40 million. Yeah. And, um,


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[Assistant] You're not the Broncos. Congratulations. You're not the Broncos. I mean, wouldn't you say that if you were Derek Carr? Like, hey, wait a second now. You're bitching me. We're not the Broncos. Greater's country, let's ride. What do I need to do to keep us the same here?


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[Assistant] I mean honestly, like, who's had a better year, Derek Carr or Russell Wilson? Derek Carr by, uh, 100 million miles.


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[Assistant] I said, I said that I thought when John Gruden got hired, that it was clear based on Derek Carr's contract that Gruden was going to move on from him. And I was surprised at how long he kept him around and stuck with him. Now, maybe they just didn't have a good drafting position, a good opportunity to bring in a veteran quarterback or just never worked out. I mean, allegedly they turned down Tom Brady once to keep Derek Carr.


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[Assistant] And Tom Brady won the Super Bowl, so who knows. That effing guy, is that what you mean?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that effing guy. Yeaah. I mean that may be a, may be a tactical error by Gruden and Mayhawk, Mike Mayhawk there to uh, to pass on Tom Brady leaving the Patriots, but that's neither here nor there. The point being is, I do think to your point, Joshua Daniels has been


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[Assistant] Was like crazy on the hot seat. He went crazy on the hot seat. Fans were demanding his head, calling for his head. Everybody thought he should be fired like five or six weeks in. They'd won one game, lost a bunch of close games, coughed up a bunch of leads.


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[Assistant] And now you have a chance if you're, if you're Joshua Daniels to sort of say, Hey, look, all of that that happened. And this happens at this. This occurs in the NFL every year. You saw it with dim.


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[Assistant] Like Nathaniel Hackett is being given, uh, the lion's share of the blame for everything that happened because he's the easy escape code.


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[Assistant] He's a free agent, yeaah. You could, if you were thinking about trading for Aaron Rodgers and reuniting him with Devonte Adams, now that would be a different story. You'd need to trade. But Brady, free agent, you can just sign Tom Brady this off season if you wanted.


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[Assistant] And again, I can't, I'm not 100% sure if it's three days after the Super Bowl or three days after three days before the league year. There was somebody who had a three day after the Super Bowl contract. I thought it was car, but I could be wrong. Regardless, do you think there's a trade partner out there for Derek Carr? Because I think it's kind of easy to find like landing spots where


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[Assistant] Certainly if he's cut where you could, he'll, he'll find plenty of places that won't assign him. Like whether it's Carolina, Atlanta, maybe even Miami could, could be a possibility. Um, you know, what about the jets?


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[Assistant] The Jets make sense. Uh, the Falcons would be looking for a quarterback potentially. Uh, and if they don't draft one, I think there's a whole bunch of spots that he could end up going that that would make sense. I mean, you can even suggest that the Houston Texans, if they don't, if they decide not to go with the quarterback at the top of the draft, uh, could, could be one of those teams. Um, I mean, they'll, they'll


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, just to clarify, Derek Carr's contract, um, does say it would be, it would be $40.4 million, fully guaranteed, this would be a pro football talk, fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2023 waiver period, which begins after the Superbowl. So yeah, I mean, that's a sense of will for everyone, right? Yeah. I mean, Derek Carr,


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[Assistant] He, it's, it's unlikely he's going to be traded somewhere for, somewhere terrible for nothing.


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[Assistant] I would guess he's thinking, man, at least I got this taco bell in my house out of all of this.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. I'm starving at my house. Third, third Taco Bell meal of the day.


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[Assistant] That bell keeps going off in your head? Wouldn't that be annoying after a while? Chipotle though, I mean, like you go Chipotle, like either one of those two, you're going to, you really need to have the 12 bathrooms that Russell Wilson has. Cause you're going to, you're going to be rotating.


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[Assistant] How many of those bathrooms do you think are of those 12 bathrooms? Like, I mean, obviously two or maybe three or downstairs in the, like one's downstairs and like your man.


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[Assistant] No, but you're like so lazy that you just feel like you have to.


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[Assistant] You're like, I just don't want to walk all the way across the giant bedroom to get the, or maybe it's like an elevated.


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[Assistant] Or maybe, maybe they have like the bedroom area and then there's like a little offset like elevated like step up to like a couch and like a lounge like reading area and there's a little, a little bathroom, like a powder room just right there. And then the other bathroom is like a full shower bathroom. So it's like a half, you know what I'm saying? Like it's not a full bath. Right. It's a half bath.


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[Assistant] That's a rhino, that's a rhino horn puree milkshake. It's like alright. It's like no one's ever eaten this before. We're not sure what's gonna happen. It runs through you like a rhinoceros.


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[Assistant] Riders are badass. All right. Uh, so yeah, Derek Carr, where do you think you play? You get one guess. Where do you think he plays next year?


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[Assistant] That is, that is correct. Um, okay. So you're going to say New York and I'll say Carolina. You're going to say your Jets and I'll say my Panthers.


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[Assistant] About that truthful, that truthful fact that you were spitting. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Which, oh, with the good charities, I wouldn't say I'm down at all. In fact, I'd say I'm up. I'd say you're up from a philanthropical and tax evasion standpoint.


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[Assistant] Not the first, not the first coach fired, the second coach fired, not even the, he's the third coach fired, right?


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[Assistant] Uhm, tried to grow a goatee and thought that that might save him. It did not. Did you, did you see his look?


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[Assistant] As Wilson points out, it reminded me of when, it reminded us of when Greg Williams like came back from Bounty Gate and dyed his hair with sun in and like grew a goatee like, it's somebody other than me! Ha ha ha! Like, don't worry!


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[Assistant] Callahan, Bill Callahan, excuse me, are like regarded as like the two, like two gurus who will come in and fix your O-line if it's all messed up.


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[Assistant] Especially when you had Vic Fangio there and I know it wasn't working out, but we all agreed he was like a quarterback away. So then you get the quarterback. If you just kept Vic Fangio and gotten Russell Wilson, who knows how it would have panned out now to your point. Now I will say this, uh, uh, uh, is it Greg Penner? Greg Penner said the CEO.


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[Assistant] He's not the owner, he's the CEO, I think. CEO, yeaah.


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[Assistant] He said he's like the new head coach will report directly to me. That's a little more.


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[Assistant] He called it normal in the sense of like how that works in NFL team. I don't know that I would call it normal, but the larger point is.


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[Assistant] In other words, he's at least opening up where it's like if Sean Payton wanted to come and work with Russell Wilson and report directly to Greg Penner, Sean Payton could probably get George Payton kicked to the curb pretty quickly. I don't think George Payton is totally safe, but I agree with you that he has escaped public blame in a way that he shouldn't given that he made the hire. He made the trade. He gave the extension.


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[Assistant] And they did it all knowing the team was about to get sold and maybe you should wait and see what your new new bosses think about it before you make all these moves. Yeah, but your boss is already telling you.


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[Assistant] To wherever he would go coach next. And it has been like Sean Payton has been very open and leaking out information about how he wants to coach. And it's, and it's like, also everybody knows like where he wants to coach somehow. It's like the chargers, like all the chargers have to do is miss the playoffs and Sean Payton is all over the chargers. They make the playoffs of course, but it's like.


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[Assistant] It's a weird thing, like you- Bill Cower was always really good about this, I thought. He would be rumored for a job and he would kind of be like, listen, I am not-


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[Assistant] And, and he's been out publicly. He's like, you know, I just really love this Fox gig. Like, I don't know if I want to go back to coaching and then like, and yet every week there's a new rumor from a different media outlet that Sean Payton is like his, you know, assembling assembling his crew or, you know, is like, like loves the idea of like, you know, coaching Justin Herbert or so and so.


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[Assistant] Um, yeah, it's kind of weird. Ed Reed got hired as a head coach. Love Ed Reed.


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[Assistant] Not same age, but like same, you know, same sort of era, you know, with the, the, you and Dion at Florida state and like whether like every like saw Dion do it and talked to Dion and was like, he's like, man, this is how you recruit. Like you can win this way quick at a small school, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. Like I sort of wondered if that was an impact.


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[Assistant] I don't actually have the quote, Gronk. I don't have the quote on Ron Rivera starting Carson Wentz. Do you have it? I don't.


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[Assistant] With K Adams on FanDuelTV, a live show that appears on FanDuelTV. Actually it has a TV channel as well, which you might not know, but it does. I can promise you that. He said, I don't really have an itch to go back. I'm sure if it did, I would have went back already. I'm not really prepared right now to go back at all. Either the mindset mentally or physically not prepared at all. Read between the lines.


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[Assistant] That is an unbelievable cheat code. I'm, I think that everyone who listens should try.


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[Assistant] Probably does. But you just get on the calendar, you're like, Hey, and if you hit a home run with a gift the first year, it's like, I'm going to Christmas shopping with Nick. She's like, by all means, enjoy it. Oh, go. You did a great time last year.


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[Assistant] All right. There it is. Brady Quinn, not just a football analyst, a life analyst as well. Shout out to... I can't take any credit. Shout out to my buddy Nick. Shout out to our buddy, or your buddy Nick. I mean, now he's now my buddy too. He's your buddy. He's everyone's buddy now. He's everyone's friend now. Our friend Nick. All right, Brady Quinn. That'll do it for us. My back is killing me in this stupid wooden chair.


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[Assistant] Now seriously, come on Bob, crank it up a little bit. Uh, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. For Brady, I'm Brinson. We'll see you guys later. Happy holidays.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the fixix podcast. TBS sports daily NFL podcast. I'm your host. It's Wednesday. Whatever day it is. I don't care. It's a pretty great football show.


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[Assistant] You remember, uh, you remember maybe Ace Ventura? Yea, of course.


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[Assistant] When you ask him, he's like, Hey Ace, you got any more of that gum? They said, I'm going to reply to you in the same way. That's none of your damn business. And I'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs. Um, uh, Andy in the chat says, let's talk rookie QBs. Okay. You don't talk rookie QBs. Yeah. All right. List me, give me the list of all the quarterbacks taking the first round of the past five years. Go.


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[Assistant] Um, so this is sort of the discussion that we were having in a group chat is like where you would slot out, uh,


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[Assistant] The, this, not necessarily this class, and I asked Ryan Wilson this too, he said, uhm, in, in, I'm not sure if he was doing it like pre-draft or not, but like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, because basically the discussion started about the bears trading the first overall pick. And I suggested, uh, in this chat that


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[Assistant] It's a, it's a lot harder to trade the number one overall pick than people think. It's like, ah, we'll just trade one. Well, the problem is you have to have one.


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[Assistant] A team that's willing to come up, which means you have to have, you have the quarterbacks that are desired enough that a team will move to the number one overall pick. You have to have a team that is willing to sacrifice several current or future first round picks more than likely.


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[Assistant] The team that is within, like, striking distance of the first overall pick.


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[Assistant] In a way that whoever has one is willing to move down. For instance, the Panthers might want the first overall pick and they might be willing to go up a number nine and a future first.


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[Assistant] But will the, would the bears be willing to move from one to nine, knowing that that puts him out of the range of getting like a.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, Will Anderson, et cetera, et cetera. And I think that's, I just think it's a little more difficult. It's only happened once since the 2011 CBA changed the, uh, the way the first round picks are paid. I just think it's a little bit harder to trade the first overall pick than people think.


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[Assistant] Either the worst or the second worst quarterback draft class since the new CBA. And I think the new CBA is important because, you know, just I would not agree with that. Who's 2013 and then last year, right?


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[Assistant] Like go, I mean, look, Goffin, yeah, I'm saying like at the time, not, not, not necessarily like now, but like at the time, like of the draft.


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[Assistant] Last year's it was like, there might not be one taken in the first round. Same thing, you know,


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[Assistant] I'm going to list six quarterbacks and this is the order that I would have had them.


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[Assistant] Okay. One and two is easy. Burr and Lawrence and there's a big drop.


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[Assistant] Lawrence 1, Burrow 2, now you can flip them, I don't care either way, but they're 1 and 2 for me easily. Kyler 3.


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[Assistant] Two of four and Herbert five, and that was obviously wrong. I just didn't like Herbert and I was dead ass wrong about it. And then six fields. And I'm curious where you would put Bryce Young on that list of six.


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[Assistant] I like it. Uhm, that is, I mean, I think that's really interesting, though, what you said about by showing just putting him above. And by the way, if you want more draft talk, check out with the first pick our new draft podcast with Ryan Wilson and former Vikings GM Rick Spielman. By the way,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's interesting because just from the sake of trading, number one, like I think if, if interval teams feel the way you do about Bryce young and I do, I do think it's that there's an interesting component to it of like Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] Him struggling, you know, will that, you know, will people, is there like an ebb and flow when it comes to the short quarterbacks or is that just?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is an interesting situation. Let's talk about some stuff around the league of import and note.


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[Assistant] What's the deal with quarterback sneaks? Uh, no, no, no, it's the new thing is like the quarterback sneaks and the guy, the running back sprints up behind him and pushes him. Um, one, how did this sort of become like, uh, this is like just sort of happen. And two, why aren't you, why aren't people like putting


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[Assistant] What the hell is going on now with this?


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[Assistant] Is it like, is, is this quarterback thing? Cause even if you talk, if you see like a Raiders fan or somebody played for the Raiders or somebody worked for the Raiders back in 2001 and you mentioned like, you could be like,


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[Assistant] You could like accidentally say the word tuck like around them and they like freak out.


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[Assistant] Is this pushing of the quarterback triggering for you as you know? Oh, okay.


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[Assistant] Uh, so, shooting at .6 yards, we found out, uh, within seconds of Tyler Huntley attempting to sneak the ball into the end zone, that he was .6 yards away because the NFL Next Gen Stats account let us know that with the microchips in the football, and this in everybody in a tizzy, I'm sorry, what? You have microchips? And instead you're choosing to use


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[Assistant] I mean, remember our colleague Gene Steritor a few years ago used an index card. He put an index card between the plays. As you can clearly see, this is not a first down.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you gotta be a volume shooter out here in these streets, Brady.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like the other thing too is, so what we heard too is like, well, the NFL, and I understand, and this is how somebody asked me, Darren Smith asked me about this on city gear radio. And I said,


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[Assistant] Here's the two things. The reason why we don't use the microchips for actual in-game purposes is just like for fun stats.


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[Assistant] Your demogra, the two demographics that are important are the demographics of the NFL owners and the demographics of a lot of people who watch football and.


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[Assistant] We're not, I mean, you got a bunch of old rich white dudes in the first one, and then you got a bunch of baby boomers.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there would be, like, the NFL is, it caters to that older fan base a lot of times.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I mean like in the, I mean, and it aired on Paramount Plus and you can go watch it on Paramount Plus. I suggest you subscribe to Paramount Plus. I think you get a free month free if you go sign up right now. Uh, but you can go watch the Pandemic Special, South Park Pandemic Special. It aired like


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[Assistant] Whenever I was locked down, they ran it. It was like, Randy, Randy Marsh caused the pandemic by having, uh, relations with something called a Pangolin. Um, sure. Why not? Anyway.


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[Assistant] So, uh, uh, microchips. So, okay, so the demographics, the two demographics, that's what I was saying. And then the other thing too, is that they claim that the microchips are not, they don't believe that they are accurate enough.


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[Assistant] And that's, and you know that like, so I mean, they, you know, next year stats tweets out and you just point six yards away. You know, the officials, the officials to be like,


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[Assistant] Oh, that's a good point from Andy, Andy in the chat. There are also instances in the data where the, with the chips, where they don't even get the correct ball.


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[Assistant] So like you've got 50 footballs that you're using for this game. Like maybe you got the cape, like, like you've got the cable, right? The kicking ball and they're using the data to decide, you know, the chip to decide if it goes in, in between the uprights or not. And all of a sudden it's like, well, uh, it appears that the field goal missed wide left and is on the bench right now.


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure this is right. It's been 11 years. I could be, I could be wrong, but I believe in the 2011 CBA, there was actually a lot of like some issues with the NFL wanted to implement all this tracking and more, you know,


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[Assistant] More, more data gathering and the union was as, as most unions are going to be against management, hesitant to give, to allow the ability to track, like, you know.


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, I really appreciate, that was the nicest thing you've ever said to me. You were like, in the business world and you know this. That's like, I'm this guy. Yeah. You know, you're a savvy guy. I'm a savvy guy. That's right. All right. Let's take a break when we come back. Maybe we'll mention Aaron Rodgers comments. Oh, people will talk about Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] And maybe we'll talk about how we've all been there. What about a one-way ticket to Thailand? I think we talked about Cliff Kingsbury too. Next. All right, Brady Gwitt, if you had a one-way ticket.


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[Assistant] Yes. Anywhere in the world. Like you have $27 million. Although, I mean, Mike Florio, I guess like read a post.


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[Assistant] Claiming that Michael Bidwell could sue Cliff Kingsbury because he's not trying hard enough to get a job.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a good point. Well, that's, that's a, that's called cancel culture.


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[Assistant] Left hand goes, left hand goes. Again, and I'll give this tip out to people.


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[Assistant] He's like, no, no, no, it's ambidextrous. He's an amphibious. Uh, moving along. I would take, I would take my one-way ticket to, um, I've actually never traveled to Europe, so I would probably go do that.


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[Assistant] I was just thinking about somewhere nice I'd like to go. Fine, fine. Uh, you know what? I go to, uh, Ireland.


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[Assistant] Nobody here, nobody in this podcast thinks I'm relatable. Uhm, so.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady. Let's talk about Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, because we probably only got five or ten more minutes. Yep. We'll do, let's do ten minutes on Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. Um, Brady, free agent now, gave an emotional press conference. Didn't, I don't think he ruled out, he didn't. Was it emotional?


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[Assistant] I was on, I was on, um, Charlotte radio this morning.


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[Assistant] And they met the, you know, uh, the Mac attack. They asked me about, uh,


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[Assistant] Sean Payton and Tom Brady is a combination in Carolina. That feels like a bridge too far for me.


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[Assistant] Now if David Tepper can go convince, can go meet with Sean Payton this week, if he can, if he says, I'll give you $25 million to be the Panthers coach. And there is, you have unlimited resources and, excuse me, unlimited ability to go get a star quarterback if you want.


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[Assistant] Cart Blanche, you know, all the resources you need are at your disposal. You can do whatever you want. Then maybe that's a possibility, but I just don't really see that.


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[Assistant] I would think he'd be less likely to walk away from football given his personal situation.


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[Assistant] Sideways into it, but like the AFC is loaded for the next 10 years with quarterbacks. It's unbelievable.


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[Assistant] Um, Aaron Rodgers on the Pat McAfee show Tuesday said, uh, essentially said like, yeah, I can still play at a high level.


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[Assistant] And then was asked about, you know, is it green Bay or somewhere else sort of.


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[Assistant] You know, did what Aaron Rodgers likes to do in the off, as the off season begins for him and say that, you know.


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[Assistant] Or having a team that's beaten your butt in the playoffs several times in the past few years.


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[Assistant] Hey, let's bring in the guy who just got fired because he couldn't get Rogers to come and we'll sign him and then Rogers will come join us. All right, we'll get out of here. You want to talk about?


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[Assistant] Yeah, for sure. Um, although we got, um, we got, uh, Armstrong from Virginia along with his old RC.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so that'd be interesting. Yeah, it sucks though that you will, because you, you're, you know, you're a hard worker and a superstar on that Fox show that you do. You'll be somewhere like, you won't, you won't be in Raleigh for the game because it's not a-


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[Assistant] You know who's, uh, coming to, uhm, rally? Tomorrow night is, uh, Anthony Jeslin, comedian.


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[Assistant] Oh, he does. You know, he and Greg Rosenthal, who works at NFL Media, uhm,


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[Assistant] They had the, they had a Jezelnik and Rosenthal podcast that was like all hosted by the NFL for a year. And the NFL was like, you know what? We may have made a mistake.


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[Assistant] Alright, you gotta go hang with Pete Prisco. Congratulations on coming to rally. Hope we have a better week.


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[Assistant] The thing is that like the Chargers had the talent last year. They have the talent this year. It's just a matter of can they get all the Chargering out of their system?


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[Assistant] Uh, so that they can actually make the playoffs. I mean, we're all watching this game waiting for something to happen. Justin Herbert fumbles a freaking snap.


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[Assistant] Uh, and a lot of times it comes and bites them in the butt. So yeah, I think the Chargers are one of the seven most talented teams in the AFC. So I do feel like from a talent perspective, they absolutely are in the right spot. I think they have a great shot of getting in.


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[Assistant] Uh, but you know, you just can't lose dumb games, which they are known to do.


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[Assistant] And just to add some context to that real quick Brynson, that 5 point, it's 5.43 yards per carry, it's like a smidge above the Giants.


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[Assistant] That is on track to be the most, the highest yards per carry that any team has given up in more than 60 years. And so when you see that numbers head coach, your, your, your automatic thought process should be, yeah, we should probably run the ball a bunch on this team. And the Dolphins just didn't do that. So that's one of those teams that like.


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[Assistant] Man, Wilson brought it up or you brought it up a couple weeks ago. How is this team going to look?


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[Assistant] Once December hits and we're talking more outside, uh, but maybe it's just December, January period because they've just absolutely, uh, I don't want to say wet the bed, but that's kind of what it feels like the last two weeks.


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[Assistant] If you had to pick one of these two teams, the Dolphins and Chargers, to miss the playoffs, who is it?


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[Assistant] Well, you know what's funny is that, uh, Mike Rabel earlier this week said, Hey look, we're at a crossroads. We're going to see which fork we take at this point. And well, they went the wrong way here. This is not what you want.


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[Assistant] To come out, lose to a division rival and, uh, like you were saying, Wilson, that touchdown pass to Zay Jones was right before halftime. I think there was like 10 seconds left and it seemed like the Jags were almost playing for a field goal and Trevor wants like, you know what, let's just take a shot.


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[Assistant] And, uh, Zay Jones gets his toe in by about three centimeters. And it felt like that touchdown broke the Titans. They couldn't believe that Jacksonville scored on them. And, you know, if I'm Mike Frable.


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[Assistant] I am saying after the game, look guys, we have sucked the last three weeks, we deserve all the negative talk we are getting. But if we can just go two and two in these final four games, we win the division. Like, it's...


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[Assistant] Kind of that simple. Cause then you get to 9 and 8 and Jacksonville would have to go 4 and 0 to get to 9 and 8 and you will get their schedule and they play the Cowboys this week. Jacksonville is to play the Cowboys in week 15. Then they have to play the Jets four days later on Thursday night. So they, their next two games and if they lose


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[Assistant] Well, right. And if they lose either one of those games, then the Titans only need to win one game of their final four. So just, just the way they built such a big lead by going seven and three in their first 10 games that I feel like they've got a big margin for error. Although they are very much testing that right now, these three.


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[Assistant] Well, and it's such a flip from last year where the Titans were the number one seed. Now I think they're the team that, that Bengals probably would love to play them. If the Titans are the fourth seed, the Dolphins are probably, everybody wants to play the Titans in the playoffs now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and the Bills, uh, I mean the Bengals will have a say in the number one seed, whether they get it or not because they play the Bills in week 17. And the thing about Buffalo is you feel good about yourself because you have the head to head over Kansas City. So the Chiefs have to finish a full game.


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[Assistant] Probably going to be Kansas City. If I had to bet on it right now, I would probably put the number one seed on Kansas City.


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[Assistant] I mean, if they go 4-0, they get it. Or, you think the bill's cause they'll lose at least 4-0.


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[Assistant] The funny thing is, they could very well end up playing the Titans in the wild card round if the Bengals win the division, the Ravens end up the 5 seed and Tennessee has the 4 seed.


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[Assistant] Well, a bunch of these 5 and 8 teams play, so the Steelers still have to play the rounds, they still have to play the Raiders, so that's boom, that's gonna eliminate a couple of those 5 and 8 teams. And then your boys in Jacksonville probably have the most difficult path with the Cowboys and Jets.


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[Assistant] I know people will be like, eh, well the Lions are 6 and 7. Obviously they have looked much, much better over the past few weeks, but they've also played the most difficult schedule in the NFL this year as far as, uh, other teams winning percentage.


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[Assistant] Well, if they get in, they're either getting the 6 or 7, because they're not going to catch the Cowboys, which means they're either playing the Vikings or 49ers.


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[Assistant] They are the only team in that division that controls their own paint.


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[Assistant] They wrote off Gino. Gino did write back. Let me ask you this. Let's, let's frame it like this, Wilson. You're the Cowboys. You almost have that five seed locked up because you're probably not going to catch the Eagles and the teams below you probably aren't going to catch you. Would you rather face Tom Brady and the Buccaneers?


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[Assistant] Desmond Ritter and the Atlanta Falcons, Stan Darnold and the Carolina Panthers, or Andrew Gregory Dalton and the New Orleans Saints.


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[Assistant] One of those teams will get the four seed, and if you're the Cowboys, I would say that Brady is the one you would least want to face.


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[Assistant] Well, and the NFC South alone, real quick on that division, Carolina has the easiest remaining schedule of those four teams. They do not face any team over the final four weeks that currently has a winning record. Whereas, Tampa Bay has to play the Bengals. Falcons still have to play the Ravens, and I don't think any of us think the Saints are going to come back with just four wins.


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[Assistant] And it is Jim Breach. No, I'm just kidding. He's not my winner, but he was the ruler of the jungle today. He's the guy who got to sit in the throne and also get the game started and end the five game losing streak the Bengals had against the


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[Assistant] Uhm, but after he did that, the Bengals went out and won. Joe Burrow is my winner because of


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[Assistant] How well he looked despite, once again, it seems like this guy's losing receivers every week, whether it's Jamar Chase for a few weeks, uh, or offensive weapons he's losing. We saw Joe Mixon out for a few weeks. Within the first two snaps of this game today against the Browns, who by the way, he had never beaten, he was 0-4.


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[Assistant] He lost Tyler Boyd and T Higgins to injury. People obviously, this is probably the final week of your fantasy season. If you had either of them, you probably said I am never.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, Brinton, that that is your case. But anyway, despite losing, uh, you know, two of his three biggest weapons, Estone out there and


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[Assistant] Rolled the Browns through for 239 yards, two touchdowns, and it was a huge game because it's one of the, it was that monkey he needed to get off his back. You had to beat the Browns. The Bengals lost four straight to them. Uh, Borough was 0-4 as a starter. It was just that team that kind of hexed it.


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[Assistant] Everything that could go wrong always seemed to go wrong when the Bengals played the Browns and they fixed that. And Jamar Chase went off 10 catches, 119 yards furrow. You know, he wasn't great, but he was good enough. And considering the circumstances of losing his top two guys, I thought he played very well.


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[Assistant] Cool. Thanks. Nah, I know that that's all we want to been talking about. I mean, look, there's always questions about Mike McCarthy. If they lose in a big game, it's a man. The coaching was horrible. And if they would have lost this game as a 69 point favorite, that's all anyone would have been talking about for the next and until the end of the season got the Cowboys. It was a choke job. It's McCarthy's fault. They're going to lose in the playoffs. Bye.


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[Assistant] Oh no. 45 years old. The man shows up. He gets to play in a game in the Bay Area for just the second time in his career. He's from the Bay Area. He wants to impress everyone. He's got friends and family at the game. No, he's made it. He's made it as a man.


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[Assistant] That's what they want to see. They want to see him come home and win games and he got embarrassed. This is one of the worst games I've seen Brady play all year. He looked 45, looked overwhelmed. The Buccaneers haven't looked great all season, but man, Brady.


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[Assistant] I don't know if he's gonna last the season. That's what happens when you're 45 and you're trying to play a young man's game for 18 weeks.


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[Assistant] Princeton, what did I tell you on the Sunday night podcast? There are only two teams in the NFL who haven't lost since October.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think. He definitely separated himself. Breaking news. Uh oh.


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[Assistant] Well, he should be, that's what I was about to say. He absolutely should be the favorite now. I mean, there was, it was Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, and I think you have Joe Burrow at number three, and


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[Assistant] Bumps through three interceptions, that's gonna take him down in the race. Jalen Hurts is 1A, uh, and he's really, really going to have to struggle down the stretch to not win.


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[Assistant] Uh, another winner for me is also a fun fact. It is the winner, Mr. Irrelevance. Uh, and the fun fact.


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[Assistant] Is that the 49ers Buccaneers game was the first one in NFL history where two different Mr. Irrelevant draft picks scored in the same game. Wait, who was, wait, was it, was it, was it a kicker?


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[Assistant] Ryan Suckup kicked an extra point for the Buccaneers and Brock Purdy had a touchdown run for the 49ers. So it finally happened. We waited all these years and we saw two different Mr. Relevant draft picks.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're, they're, they're, if they're getting in, it's as the four seed. They're not getting in as a wild card. Carolina? There's no way. There's definitely a path.


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[Assistant] I mean that path, there are five and eight prints, and even if they win out, there are nine and eight. The Seahawks have to go two and two to get to nine and eight. The Seahawks have to play the 49ers Chiefs, Jets, and Rams.


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[Assistant] I have one more loser and I'm glad that I'm bringing it up because I noticed the commenters are going to be excited about it. It is Deshaun Watson!


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[Assistant] Last week against the Texans, it was, alright, this guy hasn't played in 700 days. There's obviously gonna be some rust this week. Like, how many weeks does he get before you're like, maybe it's not rust and, uh, maybe we just set $230 million on fire.


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[Assistant] I mean, he did a little bit, but he's still through an ugly interception. He was very inaccurate and he was slow with his decision making, which are all like huge strikes with quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] And that's, that's why I said, I'm not saying this guy's a failure. I'm saying, is there a point where you'd be concerned if he's, if we're talking about this four games in and he's still looks rusty.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, like, when is, oh, if I'm, if I'm, how much is, you need to see each week for him? Cause I, I do agree. He was obviously better than he was against the Texans, but you know, the Browns were in, maybe not in the playoff hunt, but they were alive two weeks ago.


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[Assistant] What's up everybody? Welcome to the Pixix Podcast, CBS Sports Daily NFL Podcast. I'm over at Senator Host. Happy New Year's, first of all. It's actually January 2nd when we started recording this because the host of with the first pick, Ryan Wilson, who's not a co-host on here, but you know, super friend.


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[Assistant] Uh, had to do, like they had you do a ton of HQ. You're that popular?


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, do a lot of work. Very impressive. You and Rick Spielberg are crushing it with the podcast. Highly recommend everyone check it out. Also,


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[Assistant] I'm just grinding on work all the time. By the way, uh, long time devotees of the podcast will, will be thrilled to note that, uh, junior assistant podcast producer Debo is handling the backend duties tonight.


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[Assistant] We are thrilled to have him back. A lot of old school energy here. Wilson's not bringing it, but Breach is. I feel it.


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[Assistant] I mean, okay, the only part of that that makes any sense is Billy quitting, like because he couldn't deal with me. Uh, how are you guys doing? Week 17, the Steelers, my goodness. We told you last week, Wilson, they're going to the playoffs, kitty picking, and the Steelers are going to dancing, baby.


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[Assistant] My TV is coming through. Anyway, uhm, I'll tell you what it was. I want you to know about the Steelers for a few more seconds while I stand up and go turn down my television.


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[Assistant] Kind of reminds me a little bit of like some of the, I'm not, Russell Wilson with the Seahawks where.


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[Assistant] You're like, God, this is so frustrating. It's so stupid. And then they would just be back to the corner. They're like, all right, all right, Kenny, go figure it out. And Kenny was just gonna like take care of business. He, I just, the one thing I just wondered about him the way the last two weeks, I don't want to compare him to Tom.


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[Assistant] Thomas Edward Brady or anything. No, but he's got a little like.


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[Assistant] He, he, he does it, you watch him play and you're not like blown away by anything he does, like physically. And then all of a sudden he gets it, like late in these games, he starts kind of like slinging it around and making, I don't know, man. He's got a little, he's got a little juice. I would not be displeased about kidney picking if I was a Steelers fan.


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[Assistant] What do we think the Steelers Browns line will be in week 18? Steelers minus four? Where's that game? In Pittsburgh. Three. Browns are eliminated.


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[Assistant] A quick little estimate on what the parlay, the parlay price would be. I got it right here. Perfect.


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[Assistant] Partly price would be for the Steelers to make the playoffs 18 to 1-ish. See the, the, the Jets have to beat the Dolphins. But anyway, the Patriots have to-


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[Assistant] Patriots and Dolphins have to lose, right? Steven O actually has it at 18%.


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[Assistant] That's a five to one parlay. That's money on the money line. That is not.


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[Assistant] All of us have to lose. Pagers have to lose. Steelers have to win. Correct? Breach? Correct.


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[Assistant] Right, but I'm just saying like, I mean like last week, it looked like, I, I think you were probably being a pessimistic Seelish, and probably like an accurate pessimist.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I think the Steelers are, I think it's a credit to my Tomlin.


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[Assistant] It's accredited to Kitty Pickett being seriously like a little clutch. And then this defense for Pittsburgh has stepped up in a big way.


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[Assistant] Najia Harris has been much better and, um, Jim Warren, pretty good player.


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[Assistant] If the bills beat the bingles on Monday night.


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[Assistant] The, and the Ravens beat the Bengals in week 18. Baltimore still wins in the division. Baltimore obviously is Clint's a playoff spot. Um, but if, if.


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[Assistant] If Cincinnati beats Buffalo at home on Monday night,


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[Assistant] So you're telling me that Joe Berger's nuclear on Monday night, you're Cincinnati Bengals clinch AFC North. And we all, we all have a dance party.


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[Assistant] Otherwise, they're probably going to be the, give the chargers kids.


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[Assistant] They already got it. Chargers are five seed right now. So they'll be the six seed. So they'll play the threes. I mean, either the Bengals or the, oh man, the Ravens could get like train wrecked if Lamar doesn't play.


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[Assistant] And I think they're a well-coached team. The defense is a lot better. It's weird. This team has completely flipped over the course of the season. They were terrible at defense early in the year. Couldn't stop anybody in the secondary. And they were like, like piling up points. They scored what it felt like they were. They scored 38, 37, uh, back to back in weeks two and three. Then Lamar started playing poorly and then Lamar was just got hurt and he hadn't been in there.


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[Assistant] The defense where they added Roquan Smith has been much better, but the offense is just bad.


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[Assistant] The first three weeks of the season, he was playing MVP Lamar and then he just kind of tailed off a little bit and then got hurt, uh, or tailed off a lot actually. I, yeah, Raven's tough to back.


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[Assistant] I mean, I've had to win the Super Bowl. I don't, I don't think it's going to happen unless Lamar comes back. So that's pretty important. I don't, I bet we don't see him in week 18.


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[Assistant] There are some like, I mean, not rumblings, but, um, I feel like I've been asked this a couple of times, like people are like, do you think Lamar is like waiting because of his contract situation? I don't think that's the case. Personally.


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[Assistant] He's not able to play and he's not playing because he doesn't want to injure himself further because of his contract. I think he's too good a team player to do that.


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[Assistant] I mean, he cut his hair. He's like basically shaved his head and he's, Aaron Jones is talking about, we don't, they, they smoked the Vikings. They absolutely torched the Vikings in week 17, uh, the afternoon slate. Rogers was.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the defense played a lot better. Kirk Cousins was awful.


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[Assistant] I mean Aaron George ran for 111 yards on 14 carries at 7.9. Cousins went 18 to 31 for 2 of 5, a touchdown at 3 picks. They run to Nick Mullins late who's like slinging touchdowns to


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[Assistant] Jalen Naylor and, and, and KJ Osborne. I mean, I guess it was just Osborne, but still like, like it, it did not.


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[Assistant] I'm telling you man, you look at that Packers team and you look at the NFC as a whole and, and I realized that I'm biased here because I have wagers on the Packers to win the NFC, but Jalen Hurts, also a mysterious injury like Lamar Jackson, the Vikings, I mean, they are, they, they win games a lot, but they,


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[Assistant] Like the Giants, we have the Giants and Danny Dimes. Like Aaron Rodgers can win the NFC. It's not that crazy.


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[Assistant] At least on the ESC side, maybe. That there are these teams, and look, the Eagles...


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[Assistant] The Eagles started so hot and it's just like, you know, just attrition sometimes catches up. Vikings, incredible season. But it feels like the teams who like rode hot the entire year are sort of limping into the playoffs a bit.


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[Assistant] And these like questionable teams are maybe kind of coming in a little bit warm and a year with this much parody, we could see somebody make a big upset run.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? If they don't want to match up in a divisional round, then I look like an idiot. I would say it's probably what, uh, 40 to 1?


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[Assistant] I was trying to do the Vikings math. Uhm, if the Vikings or the Packers played in the playoffs. Let me turn the question around to you.


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[Assistant] You found a list, I've got it right here. I actually wrote this somewhere earlier. My list is 49, 49 is 1. Packers 2 with an asterisk that they have to be in.


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[Assistant] There's an asterisk that they have to be in. Eagles three of the asterisks that if Hertz is their quarterback, that he would, they would move to one. Bucks four.


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[Assistant] I don't know if that's good or bad. No, that's not prime time. Nobody's watching that.


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[Assistant] I just think with the Packers, that was a statement game they put on. They're gonna, they're gonna torch the Lions next week. Oh no, no they're not. Oh yes they are.


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[Assistant] I love David Campbell. I want the Lions to make the playoffs, but I want the Packers to make the playoffs. He just said that they're going to get rolled. They're not getting rolled. They're going to get rolled by Aaron Rodgers in a bathing suit. They're going to get rolled by Aaron Rodgers and his short hair. And it is no, not like he's done this three times already where he says you can see it with his attitude. You can see how he's like, like, why doesn't he have that attitude?


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[Assistant] Okay. The Giants clicks the playoff birth first time since actually speaking, the Packers since the Giants.


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[Assistant] Went on the, uh, the infamous Odell Beckham wide receiver boat cruise. And then didn't win a playoff game, despite being a very good team.


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[Assistant] Giants, I, I, I stand by this. I've said it for like the last six weeks or so. They remind me so much of the 2017 Buffalo Bills. They have no business being here. They're coached by, because remember obviously Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean came from Carolina and then uh, Brian Dable and Joe Shane came from Buffalo.


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[Assistant] They're like Baby Buffalo. They don't have any business being here. They're probably gonna get blown out in the first game of the playoffs. They could make a little bit of run because they're good enough. Danny Dimes is playing a


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[Assistant] Billion times better than he ever played before, mostly because he was coached by freaking Joe judge and Jason Garrett.


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[Assistant] This is a, this is a really well coached team that plays hard. Defensive line is good.


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[Assistant] I'm very impressed by the Giants and what they've done, even if they get blown out in the first week of the playoffs. But kudos, kudos to that entire coaching staff and that entire team for this season because no one thought they were going to be here.


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[Assistant] Good. All right, Breach, let's say that you were sitting by yourself watching it without being, having to talk about it on YouTube. Where would you rank it?


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[Assistant] It was like, it wasn't funny because somebody's hurt, right? But like the actual juxtaposition of


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[Assistant] Remember when, uh, Chris Assel told him that you were his number two pass rusher in the draft?


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[Assistant] Credit to the Giants. Should the Giants play anybody against the Eagles in, uh, week 18?


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[Assistant] To bring back my Buffalo, uh, parallel here too. Remember, the Dolphins are trying to make the playoffs. The Bills had clinched their seed, I think it was two years ago. Bills had clinched their seed, had no need to play anybody. Rolled Josh Allen out there for a quarter, lit Miami up.


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[Assistant] And then they had Matt Barkley throwing bombs late to blow out the Dolphins and make sure they didn't make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] We could really take a little chunk out of the Eagles here. Force Jalen Hurts to either, if he doesn't play on that.


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[Assistant] I thought it was a little egregious to be running this quarterback read options with over 30 points. He's having day times running around the edge on a, on a, on a.


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[Assistant] Maybe he's like, you're like, you feel like you're like, we can beat Go Dimension with a half of our starters.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's take a break and when we come back, we'll talk about Tom Brady and his chances of winning the Super Bowl next.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady noted winner of this week and in life.


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[Assistant] Is lurking. I got the Panthers. That was a, that was a fun game.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, he's just lurking. They're in the playoffs. They clinched the UFC South. You know what, Brian? You know what, Ryan Wilson?


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[Assistant] My good friend of many, many years, I never give credit to. I will give you credit for nailing almost in a probable fashion.


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[Assistant] That would be funny though. Uhm, no, look, you, I don't know, we don't have the clip because Devo's traveling in a wifi and whatnot, but you said during our preview, you were like adamant, you were slamming the table. You're like, the bucks are going to stink.


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[Assistant] They might win the division, but they're gonna be bad. And you know what? You're right. You nailed the Buccaneers. Almost to perfection.


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[Assistant] I bet on the Packers, not the Box. I'm just saying that if they have Tom Brady, they can make a run.


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[Assistant] That was like, and like every time you saw him wind up, as soon as you saw him wind up, you're like, 13 is going to be walking.