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[Assistant] Alright, over to the Cowboys versus the Packers. It took a little while for the Cowboys offense to get rolling. Yeaah. Uhm, but did. Amari Cooper had the most yards receiving of any receiver in the NFL this week.


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[Assistant] They got game scripted out quickly after that when they fell down 3-1-3. Yes, exactly right. It didn't have...


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[Assistant] Tyron Smith. Yes, that was an issue. They lost Lyle Collins to an MCL, so maybe that had something to do with it. Definitely.


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[Assistant] No, that's it, let's see. You mentioned Zedarius Smith, he had a game high of four quarterback hits, two sacks. Yea, yea, I mean he's a beast. He's coming on, he's emerging. He spent his first four years with the Ravens. Right. Uh, most games he started in a year was eight last year. He started all five this year for Green Bay and he could be a key piece for them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right, right. Uhm, alright, you, you wanna lead it off? Uhm, no, you lead it off. You want me to lead it off? Yeah, you go, you go, you want this first guy, is he a damn okay? I think so, I mean, I gotta give Kirk cousins. Oh, damn, okay.


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[Assistant] Squeaky wheel, squeaky wheel, seven catches, 130 yards, two touchdowns as a, uh, Stefan Diggs fantasy owner. I don't like that. You don't like that? Why is Thieland always open? It's like every time they throw the ball, he's open.


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[Assistant] I got two, I got two, uh, damn okays from the Broncos Chargers game. Okay. And one was a damn okay from last week. My guy, Desmond King! He had a 68 yard punt return for a touchdown. Yep.


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[Assistant] And he grew up in Detroit. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. So damn okay for Desmond King. Yup. Even though the Broncos got this win, and so I'll give my other damn okay to Cortland Sutton, who I think is actually emerging as one of the top, a better receiver in the


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no. There's a lot of damn good for series. Top 20 maybe. I mean, that 70-yard touchdown was an individual effort, breaking tackles, getting open. No doubt. Busted coverage a little bit, I think.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be interesting how it works out between Melvin Gordon and Austin Eckler. Cause Eckler, he caught 15 passes in the game. Holy crap, I didn't even realize he caught that many passes. 15 passes for 86 yards.


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[Assistant] Okay, Eagles have never lost to the Jets. Still, 11-0 all time.


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[Assistant] One three and one on the year. Yeah. And my final damn okay. Okay. It's the game, the one game we haven't talked about.


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[Assistant] Nothing, that's no cool. And an 11-5 Saints team is sitting at home.


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[Assistant] And the other thing is, oh, he's gonna interview Richard Sherman, a guy who, what'd you say?


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[Assistant] All that stuff, but uh, we do have some similarities.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady out there compared to the other guys. And you know, I think Gruden, the speeches he was giving to the quarterbacks is so true, you know, that the quarterback, you have so much under your


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[Assistant] And, you know, I, I learned, you gotta be the guy that takes control, and Noah's a quarterback, and Christopher, you back this up, no matter what you are and who you are, there's gonna be a group of guys on the team that don't like you because you're a quarterback. Right, right. And you get too much, uh,


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[Assistant] Used to lead em, Sims, but now you're buddy buddy. Take em out to dinner another time. Buy em another gift. How's that workin' out for ya? Huh? And he went through this long story and I just...


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[Assistant] Went, wow, I remember driving home that night, just going, damn, he's right.


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[Assistant] Because they do look at you as the leader, and you gotta, you gotta show that on the field, in the workout room, in the classroom, you gotta do it everywhere, to make them believe that you truly are the man.


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[Assistant] It did come easy for me. I learned that, you know, because I grew up in a different age.


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[Assistant] But I learned it, you know, early. Even early in high school, I can remember just, you know,


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[Assistant] And coddle a little different way and take them by the side and go, hey look man, you're great, but look, you can't do this to me.


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[Assistant] Get a connection, and we're there, and it goes forever. Now there will be some players, no matter what you do, you're not gonna connect to them. Usually those are defensive players, so you don't care.


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[Assistant] My bolo tie, yeaah, yeaah, Phillip, but you know, listen, I met with him many times over the years.


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[Assistant] We're seeing a different, like we in life, we're just seeing a different generation of...


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[Assistant] Oh now wait, I said, he is Baker, it's who he is, Boomer. And I think I convinced him, he goes,


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[Assistant] Then it changes who you are for real. Not only on the field, it'll change you off the field too. Right. And when you get that kind of confidence, now you're not afraid to, you know, speak up and do your thing.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, Calvin Ridley, gotta admit,


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[Assistant] And every team is fine. I got Antonio Callaway. I like him. And I've always liked Jalen Strong. I never understood.


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[Assistant] Why he hasn't found a bigger role in the NFL or whatever, but wow, that is, that's five guys. So it gives you, you know, talent, depth.


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[Assistant] You don't need, everybody doesn't have to do everything. I love that. Like there's a guy that comes in the NFL, he plays college football.


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[Assistant] But, it served a tremendous purpose. He was fast, he was big, so that gave you the guy that could go, I hate the term, over the top.


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[Assistant] You know, even college football, you need to keep a well-rounded group in there.


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[Assistant] And that's when you look at, when you look at Cleveland, man.


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[Assistant] I would have put them in the top 5, but I can't really look at which one I would take out real quick. Uhm, but you know.


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[Assistant] They are gonna take your first and second guy out, please. Why does it surprise teams?


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[Assistant] You can do whatever, whatever formation, move them, bring him off the bench and then surprise her, they'll still double team him.


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[Assistant] Which is amazing. Most teams, if you put a guy in motion, oh, check to another coverage. We can't handle it. Uh, I don't, so.


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[Assistant] I think I answered your question right there. In today's game, it's too easy to take one guy out of the game.


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[Assistant] And they always had a good tight end. Oh, and they threw it to the running backs all the time. You know, they were ahead of their time and, and, uh, not that Jerry Rice was there for the very start of it, but boy, worked out pretty well.


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[Assistant] It's probably not what you think. I'm looking forward to the opening night game because it is the first game. It's the Packers and Bears. I love their uniforms.


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[Assistant] I like everything about it. Aaron Rodgers in the new offense. I can't wait to see that.


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[Assistant] Well son, you know, it never ends. I have to do whatever I can do to help your...


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I don't even know how it came up, but he basically made a bet with me, like, if you get straight A's for the first half of the year, I'll take you to a game in Chicago to watch Michael Jordan's play. But, that was the greatest schooling showing I ever had. It was straight A's across the board, went and watched Michael Jordan.


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[Assistant] Yes. Nice. Yes. It was pretty amazing. Yeah. Uh, so that was my Michael Jordan moment. I don't know why I'm bringing it up, but anyways, what up? Paul Burmester. How you doing? Chris Soons. Uh, we're going to get into it today. You know, it is what the f**k happened. Okay. We will be hitting that segment. A number of different plays throughout Chiefs, Raiders, uh,


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[Assistant] Browns. All of those type of plays. Steelers, Colts, Chargers, Lions. We'll get into all of it. Uh, and...


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[Assistant] Let's see. I don't know about my father. We're going to see. It's going to be a game time decision. He's going to text me. He was about to full pledge be on. Okay. And family emergency. My sister drug him to the doctor's office with her little boy and now he's there. So we'll see if he calls in. I don't know. I can't promise it, but let's get after business. Let's do it.


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[Assistant] Oh, also, how could I forget? My own quarterback rankings. We did the top 16.


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[Assistant] To where, yeaah, you were feeling like, okay, I think the Vikings have settled in against Matt Moore and company, and everything should be okay. They're up 16 to 10, they gotta pin back in their own area once again. They basically ran inside zone to the left side, okay?


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[Assistant] Uh, the tight end, it was a too tight end set. The tight end on the left side did the old go behind the line of scrimmage, right? He didn't line up on the line of scrimmage. He was like a foot off, right? So where they're gonna hand it off to the left, he's gonna go backside and kick out the backside defense end or linebacker who's ever there.


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[Assistant] Now here's the problem, and here's where it goes wrong for Minnesota.


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[Assistant] This is where you have to be careful about playing man to man. Because now, now that Harrison Smith is man to man on that tight end, that's gonna go behind the line of scrimmage. Well...


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[Assistant] He ends up being responsible for the gap, right, that the ball gets run in. And you just said he barely touched him.


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[Assistant] And people might look at Harrison Smith and go, oh, come on, he's gotta make that tackle. No, you like him to make that tackle. Is it realistic to ask him to make that tackle? I don't think it is. Well, he was kind of out of position because if I remember right, he's following the guy.


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[Assistant] In a bad spot. And to me, that goes more on Mike Zimmer and the defensive coaching staff. And again, they're really good and they're really well coached on that side of the ball and they very rarely make these type of mistakes.


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[Assistant] They did get into a man-to-man situation, and this is the scary thing about playing man-to-man against really good running teams. Something Bill Belichick's gonna learn about Baltimore the next time he plays him. He's gonna go, you know what? I can't play as much man-to-man because they had us crossing everywhere and guys going everywhere to where we lost run fits and things like that. And that's what happens when teams get into those type of sets.


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[Assistant] Where, you know, yeaah, like you said, alright, so let's just try to paint the picture. Everybody's kinda, there's two tight ends, Kelsey's the tight end to the right, 81's the tight end to the left, I'm blanking on his name, doesn't really matter.


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[Assistant] Kelsey kinda releases out to the right, right, to take away one guy. Now, the tight end comes back and blocks the defensive end on that side. Alright.


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[Assistant] And Blake Bell is a tight end, excuse me. So the, so the Blake Bell 81 comes backside, blacks that backside defense end. Well now an extra gap forms, right? Because the tight ends there. And that's where Harrison Smith's...


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[Assistant] Uh, now responsible for that gap, but that's a very hard ask from a player in that. Like, oh, hey, we would like you to sprint across the formation, cover a man to man.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, I think on those type of plays, there's always some coaching points that are talked about to cut back. He knows there's a possibility to cut back. He's going to press it like a running backs coach or, or an offensive coordinator to press the hole, press the front side.


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[Assistant] And what he's really reading is like the backside linebacker. Just to see, is he being too aggressive? Is there somebody that's going, like in this case it was Michael Kendricks who was really the only linebacker in the middle because Anthony Barr had gone to the weak side at the end of the line of scrimmage.


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[Assistant] Now he just sees him, if he just goes, ooh, he looks like he's playing it too aggressive, his bright lights go on to go, let me see if the cutback's there. And it was there, and then he makes it happen. So it's a big, it's not necessarily designed there.


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[Assistant] But it's talked about a lot to be, to be aware of the cutback, especially with inside-outside zone. Right. Yea, and you just keep your eyes on aggressive linebackers. And Minnesota's an over-aggressive defense. They're fast or athletic.


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[Assistant] You know, they're smart. They diagnose plays almost too quickly to a detriment at times. So where they like can get over there and go, oh damn, I'm over here, but I've, I've, I've committed myself so far now I can't get there to make the tackle on the cutback run. So ultimately that's what happened. And again, those are plays I look at and I'm sure like PFF gave Harrison Smith a bad grade.


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[Assistant] Because he missed a tackle, and I want to just go, no, Mike Zimmer deserves that bad grade. That's not realistic.


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[Assistant] You know, go back to like Anthony Barr having to cover Robert Woods 40 yards downfield last year in a Thursday night football game and people were roasting Anthony Barr on, on TV and on the, on social media.


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[Assistant] And I went, no, no, no. Bill Belichick would never have Dante Hightower covering Robert Woods 40 yards downfield. That's when you got a question, oh wait, was that realistic of the coaching to ask the player to perform


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[Assistant] I think that was too tough to ask any really safety to come through in that, in that


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[Assistant] I mean, just to paint the picture so we can do it. Like, this is not easy. So here's the play from the end zone, everybody. We're looking at it. It's an eight man front. You know, you can see here, there's Anthony Barr going down over Travis Kelsey. Okay, it's man to man. So they're trying to bring five people. The defense, the defense alignment all slant to the left.


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[Assistant] Right? He sees the linebacker frontside, so he's already alert. Kendricks is strong to the left already, so he's alert that the cutback might be there from the get-go.


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[Assistant] And that was the issue with the game. And one of the biggest plays of the game, you know, just to hit on the game in general. Uhm, I would say this with Minnesota. Hey, their defense is really good. I know a lot of people put like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I mean, they were, first off, Kansas City continues to get better on the defensive side of the ball. We've talked about the Minnesota Vikings, like,


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[Assistant] You know, Stefan Diggs or Thielen work and let them win one on one and hopefully cousins can hit them. Uh, so, but the big thing is, okay, yes, they were ready for the bootleg game.


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[Assistant] I like this about Kansas City, and again, I really liked what I'm seeing from Kansas City's defense for about four weeks in a row now. They have changed. They really haven't. Have they changed the most? Well, they're definitely more aggressive, creative.


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[Assistant] Chris Jones played defense to end. He's 315 pounds. He played defense to end this game. And then they had 99. Kaelin Sanders has a D tackle. And Nandi, 91, has a D tackle.


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[Assistant] There's like over, that's almost a thousand pounds and three guys in your defensive line. And then number 92, who I can't say his name, but I'm going to try to pronounce this. To Noah Kusapanganon. Okay, that was probably horrible.


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[Assistant] He is 6'7, 290. So he's probably in the backside. So they were, they were, they felt comfortable about.


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[Assistant] Hey, let's put big people up there. Let's try to stop the run with them and maybe not ask our linebackers in the backside defense end to play it so over aggressive that we have to put everybody there to stop the run to where we, we, we watch it on film, everybody getting beat by these bootlegs. So they'll left them in some good positions to stop them.


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[Assistant] There's something beyond the front 7. Thielen wasn't there, so let's take that into account before we all bash Kirk Cousins too. I mean, this is one of the best players. He's not there, right? So that hurt them. But I do think Steve Spagnolo's coaching, especially with the linebackers and safeties, they were all over. Okay, yeaah, we see the run game.


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[Assistant] But they were looking, they were dialed up for crossers coming back for the bootleg to where anytime Kirk Cousins kind of pulled, pulled off and okay, here comes the bootleg out the back door. Man, the linebackers were running stride for stride with the crossing route that was there.


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[Assistant] Or the linebacker's safety had come down on the weak side to take the guy who sneaks out of the backfield and into the flat.


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[Assistant] They always had guys there for that. So that was really I thought the best thing they did all day long.


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[Assistant] So, uh, it's disguising, it's smart game planning, it's good coaching, it's playing the right coverages into those type of things. They did all of that. And I mean, Steve Spagnola, I think, has been phenomenal the last few weeks. The Kansas City defense has really turned the corner. I don't think they're going to be the pushover we saw early in the year anymore. I don't think so.


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[Assistant] So that was an interesting part of the game. And then just to further along with that, just a little bit, like yea, Kirk Cousins,


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[Assistant] There was, did he miss two deep throws? Okay, yes, he did. But I could show you a lot of quarterbacks who missed two deep throws on Sunday. We overanalyzed with certain guys. Like, it didn't just come down to that.


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[Assistant] You know, the game plan in general, I thought, lacked a little creativity in Minnesota. We've heard the bootleg and the run game makes them work. When you take that away, their drop back pass game is not like something I'm going, whoa, this is like the greatest show on turf. They're doing crazy stuff here. No, it's pretty basic. So I don't think they can necessarily rely on that all the time.


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[Assistant] And without feeling to play matchup football. And I'll say this, there was maybe two or three throws where


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[Assistant] Kirk Cousins, I wish would have came out aggressive. I think he, he dropped back and he had made up his mind like, ooh, this coverage looks soft, so I'm gonna go throw to the check down guy in the flat. And I wanted to go, ooh, no, Stefan Diggs was open for like the 25 yard corner route.


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[Assistant] That's the degree of difficulty of his throws in the month of October are tens out of tens. That's how you're right. And that's what they ask of him. And he has, he's delivered.


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[Assistant] He's on the road and he's going, oh, we're kind of controlling the game. They're backup quarterback. I think that could play into it. I don't need to take a stupid chance here. We should win this game as is. I mean, they are missing their best player, right? So that's where I just, I get bothered by the Kirk Cousins stuff at times because I want to go with this defense. It's top 10 in football.


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[Assistant] So, you know, Kirk Cousins wasn't out there then. Right. That bothers me that all the time. And then, oh, so, hey, oh, I thought Dalvin Cook was awesome. Why couldn't he run the ball? Well, there's no holes. But I mean, we just, we just blame the quarterback sometime and that bothers me.


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[Assistant] And then Andy Reed, and where their offense has changed a little bit, there's a little more two tight end sets, there's a little bit more max protection, max protection play action passes. Let's just send two or three guys out, make it simple on this guy. He was coaching a high school football team at the end of August.


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[Assistant] Definitely. I mean, there's a handful of plays throughout the game where, you know, and I even broke it down in my notes a little bit. I just, you know, it's...


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[Assistant] And then when they want to take a chunk play, they go, let's keep six or seven, let's keep seven guys in the block and let's tie, tie reek.


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[Assistant] And Sammy Watkins, work it downfield. And he's been making the proper throws and making some big time throws with it too. And really it's something I hope they continue to do when Patrick Mahomes gets in here. You help him more that way.


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[Assistant] Play action with Patrick Mahomes arm and you could let Tyree Kill go down and forget double moves, he could do triple moves. I mean he could do post corner post.


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[Assistant] Or corner post corner. I mean, he can do things like that where you just go, hey, we gotta protect it. Mom's just sit back there and pat the ball and let one go 65, 70 yards. Let's see what happens. That'll back a defense off in a hurry. They're gonna go, whoa, okay, safety. You need to drop back a little bit. Uhm, last thing I'll say about this game. Two things with Minnesota.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, if I'm the Dallas Cowboys this week, I'm hurrying up offense. I'm taking a playbook from what I saw the New England Patriots do to Baltimore last week, or what New England used to do to Pittsburgh


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[Assistant] Uh, all those years when they went, man, their front sevens are really good. We, I, let's tire them out. I don't know what, we can't block these every time. So let's just tire their asses out and let's run like, let's try to run 40 something plays in the first half. So then in the third quarter, they're dead and we can just dice them up.


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[Assistant] I would do some of that if I'm playing the Minnesota Vikings because I think it is one of the flaws of their football team. They look tired at the end of the game? Yeah, I just, yeah, they do. And the last two years specifically, I thought they've looked tired at the end of the year and some of their sack production and stuff like that shows at the end of the year that it all falls off because I think they're asked to play too many snaps.


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[Assistant] I mean, I hate the play. I mean, I think the conversation where I want to start with there more than anything, alright, is they had a fourth and two on the goal line in the first half.


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[Assistant] And guess what happened? Matt Stafford threw a touchdown on fourth and two.


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[Assistant] Like, so, to me, the biggest thing there is, you're handicapping your team right off the bat, and really handicapping, handic, handicapping, handic, handic, They're hamstrung. Hamstrunging, hamstrunging their own quarterback though, and his talents, okay? By doing what? By getting it?


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[Assistant] Right? I think they went, well, they're not stupid. John Gruden, I guarantee, was like, they're gonna let Stafford throw it. I don't care what formation. Just be ready for Stafford to make the throw. And they out-thought themselves, I think, in this one. I mean, to me, Oakland doesn't have a good pass rush.


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[Assistant] The way Stafford had played all day was phenomenal. I mean phenomenal. I mean it was out of this world good. And then...


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[Assistant] Uhm, the fact that we're just talking about that they don't have a great pass rush, they're not great in the secondary, yeaah, I would've just leaned on going down with my best player. Hey listen, if they had Karrion Johnson in there, and they had success running the ball throughout the day, I would've gone, oh, I get it.


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[Assistant] Their stats were what? Like, I gotta, I'm gonna pull it up right here real quick just so I can talk to it. I mean,


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[Assistant] McKissick had four rushes for 32 yards. You know, Johnson had nine rushes for 29 yards. The Raiders weren't like, oh my gosh, we have to stop McKissick down the middle. Uh, or any of that. So I just did not agree with, yeah, I did not agree with the play call.


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[Assistant] We stacked the middle of the line there, where they had a bunch of people, they had like 5D linemen all in between the defensive tackles, so you're right, they were gonna stop the run, and then they probably told, like,


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[Assistant] The guys on the edge and man to man, don't peek in the backfield. I mean, don't peek. If he runs out there and they end up running out there, then so be it. But we're not gonna get beat by the old okie doke. Oh, I looked in the backfield and now I forgot that my tight end ran out behind me for a touchdown. Uh, so that's where I just didn't agree with it. But let me just say this one more time.


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[Assistant] You know, Karrion Johnson's out and the running game wasn't special this year. It's gotten back to like, hey, hey, Stafford, can you carry us again? And he's making phenomenal plays. And the degree of difficulty of throws, once again, like we just talked with Kirk Cousins. I'm gonna go.


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[Assistant] Man, they're off the Richter scale sometimes. Like some of the throws he makes, I go, there's only like three or four quarterbacks in football that could do this. Right.


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[Assistant] You know, but nobody wants to buy in, cause it's, he's only one, he's never won a playoff game. And, you know, Detroit, uuuh, like, it's just like, it's always the same talk. Okay, yeah, Detroit, uuuh. That doesn't mean Matthew Stafford is uuuh.


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[Assistant] Right. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna be totally transparent here. I didn't watch this play yet. So we're gonna watch this together. Good. We're gonna watch it together. I went through a bunch of other film and I forgot to watch this one. I just looked at the rundown and went, oh shit, I forgot to watch this play.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's do that. Let me text my dad. Alright, Pete, when should I tell him? We'll call my dad in what? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?


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[Assistant] Yep, okay, I'm, I'm really, I like doing it this way. Maybe I should do this more often, I can figure out what happened right here live on the podcast.


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[Assistant] I'm interested too, and like I said, I totally forgot to watch this. Alright, so it's a- Watch it like you're doing radio call, because most people at home can't see. Yup, it's a four down front, alright, there's two linebackers, they're in nickel.


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[Assistant] Alright, at the snap, it looks like they're gonna be in some sort of too deep shell. The weak side linebacker gets up to the line of scrimmage over the guard. So it basically becomes a five man rush, right?


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[Assistant] That's what we got here. And to your point,


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[Assistant] It does not stay a too deep shell. They decide to play, they decide to play basically one robber. They're gonna know, they're playing straight up man. No, it's not even robber. It's man to man.


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[Assistant] He is, at this point, I think he's hoping that the back, yes, is maybe gonna be open on a little bit of a wheel route. Here. Now.


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[Assistant] To say that, this is, this is where I'm already confused. He's looking over there and he's got it. See, he must never see the safeties. That's what, that's what I'm gonna come to the conclusion of. So his, his pre-snap read was not. His pre-snap read is probably wrong because if you're looking over there too with the wheel ride, you would think your eyes would next go to the guy that's the best player in your offense, which is number 13.


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[Assistant] Who does a little inside jab step on Chris Harris Jr. and he's gone. He's got Chris Harris Jr. beat at the top by at least a solid


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[Assistant] Foot and a half, maybe more. He's got a beat, regardless. That's beat. That is beat.


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[Assistant] Yes, that's B. When the ball goes in the air, he's gonna go to another gear and he's got it. But to your point, you're exactly right. I don't know why he wouldn't go there, especially when you see the weak side linebacker that we just talked about who's in the line of scrimmage. There's nobody in the middle of the field.


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[Assistant] Chris Harris Jr. is taking Odell Beckham Jr. Uh, this safety here is taking the tight end, or no, he's taking the back coming out of the backfield. You have another safety matched up on the tight end over the middle of the field.


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[Assistant] Uh, you got a corner taking Antonio Galloway, Antonio Galloway, who's running like a deep end cut. But Jarvis Landry is coming underneath on a slant route.


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[Assistant] It's very similar to Seattle Super Bowl play. This is what they're basically doing. Seattle Super Bowl play where it gets picked off by Malcolm Butler. It's the same type of thing. It's a stack alignment on the right side and the first receiver, Antonio Calaway, is just going to run straight because


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[Assistant] Because with Jarvis Landry on his outside to his right, now the corner that's covering Jarvis Landry has to come through Antonio Callaway and that corner to get to the play.


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[Assistant] So, the pre-snap read would be all the way, I would think at this point, to throw the ball right over the middle of the Jarvis Landry. But you're right, he gets fixated on the back.


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[Assistant] And I don't know why he would get fixated on it there. There's nothing to me that would say, oh, I'm gonna get the back here all the way.


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[Assistant] I totally agree. He stayed to it thinking, I'm gonna be able to hit this guy for the first down to keep this drive going. And he's totally wrong. And then within that,


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[Assistant] He takes another little extra little shuffle step as he's gathering himself to throw the Jarvis Landry, who it's too late now. Like the guy that's covering Amanda Mann has gotten through the trash. The guy covering the tight end over the middle of the field sees his eyes, so he goes, oh he's about to throw to this guy, to hell with my guy.


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[Assistant] And now it becomes a bam bam play with two people smashing Jarvis Langer right at the last second. Let's watch the end zone clip of it. But you're right, he looks to the left.


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[Assistant] Looks like he's looking at the back. He never really looks at Odell Beckham Jr. at any, at any point.


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[Assistant] Never really gets his feet set on her. Never gets his feet set. His feet are all hoppy and jumpy and everything. And he throws a ball where his feet aren't set and he just tries to muscle it in there with his arm and he almost gets it in there. But because he's way too late, like you said.


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[Assistant] That is why they lose the game. All the things, see this just tells me the game's moving too fast for Baker Mayfield right now. He's a little bit in his own head and not seeing things clearly. Because as a quarterback, as you know, as you're getting ready, blue 85, blue 85, your eyes are on the safeties at that point all the way.


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[Assistant] You know, you're going, okay. You know, okay, here's my protection. Alright, I know if this guy comes, I might have to throw hot.


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[Assistant] But you're gonna kinda have a feel for that just through peripheral vision as you're getting the snap. Your eyes should be on those safeties in front of you. And they make it clear as day that they're coming down to play man to man before he snaps the ball.


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[Assistant] You know, they're trying to show too deep, and then as he's at like, blue 85, blue 85 set, they start to come down, you're gonna go, ooh, it's man to man. And the, and the weak side linebackers blitzing. Let me go over here to my quick slant on the right that, like you said, if he hits that on timing and rhythm,


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[Assistant] This is an easy completion. Right. Easy. I mean, maybe he makes a guy miss and gets a few more yards after that.


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[Assistant] Jarvis Landry basically has to stop because now he's running into somebody else's territory and he's like, wait, wait, I was supposed to get the ball already. So let me pull up here before I cover somebody else up on my own team. And that's where it becomes a disaster.


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[Assistant] It's the theme of the Browns. It's, it's, when they make mistakes, they're making horrible mistakes. It's not just like, oh, they made a mistake there. It's like, oh, we turned the ball over three plays in a row.


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[Assistant] Oh, I threw three interceptions, three plays in a row against the Titans to start the year.


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[Assistant] Or, oh, it's one second half turnover after another against the Seahawks when you're kind of controlling the game throughout.


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[Assistant] And you have control of the game and, you know, you get stopped on a fourth and one and Nick Chubb fumbles and Baker throws a stupid interception late in the end zone to what you're talking about. That's their big thing. I mean, like in a lot of their games, if we just went plus minus grades for each play, I would go, the Browns won more plays than the teams they played against.


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[Assistant] But when they lose a play, they're losing it egregiously bad, and that's leading to disaster plays and big moments. Hey, the Rams game.


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[Assistant] Fourth and nine, he checked to a draw. That's right. Remember? Let's not forget about that. And Freddy Kitchens is on the sideline going, as soon as the play runs, he looks at him and goes,


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[Assistant] I believe, and I'm not an expert rip leader, rip lip reader, I believe you went, what the f-


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[Assistant] I mean, that's what it'll look like he said to me. So, within that, yes, the Browns keep shooting themselves in the foot. I did not watch that full game. You know, I kept my eye on it, of course, on Sunday, so I don't know any more film takeaways from there. Uhm, I watched that play a lot. Yea, you watched that play a lot. Yea. Uh, but, you know, the Broncos made a few plays on offense.


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[Assistant] They got a good defense still, and you know, you give that team 14 free points or Noah Fant running down the middle of the field for a 70 yard touchdown and then Courtney Sudden makes an awesome moss catch over Denzel Ward, you're gonna be in a game with Denver because you're not gonna score much more than 20 against the Denver Bronco defense.


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[Assistant] Well no, there was a sequence at the end of that game, you're exactly right, where they didn't accept the penalty and it would have gave them an extra down in sacrifice of the yards, but I don't think it was on that exact play.


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[Assistant] It is. This is not a career achievement. It's not who I think is actually a better player, right? Okay. I'm just talking about right now. Yes. I got it. Yes. That's what I'm saying. I'm not in the second grade. I got it. Yeah, no, it's not. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to somebody else.


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[Assistant] That's technicality. Yeah, it was tough. That was tough.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that's right. Alright, so you're good with me with Kirk Cousins 8, Jacoby Burset 9, Dak Prescott 10. I know there's a lot of people that are like, man, Dak Prescott should be ahead of Jacoby Burset.


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[Assistant] Really, the last five weeks, I don't think Dak Prescott has played phenomenal football. I think Jacoby Percet has played some tougher defenses and played some really good football without T.Y. Hilden, without a Marlon Mack being 100%. Uh, so yeaah, I gave him the edge in a slight


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[Assistant] A slight win over Dak Prescott, but I know that's something I've gotten some pushback for too.


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[Assistant] I mean, there was, there was throws there in that game that were there to be had. You know, the Eagles game before that. Yeah, I know it was good, but let's not forget the Eagles defense was not even, the starters weren't even there. I mean, the whole secondary is decimated. He had people that we can't even know their names playing corner in that game. So I'm not going to go like, oh my gosh.


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[Assistant] Dak Prescott and Omari Cooper diced up the fourth best corner on the Eagles. Damn, he's good. I'm just not gonna do it. You know, the Jets game.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, there was, there was, it wasn't all Dak Prescott, but there was some plays and moments there to be had too. The Green Bay Packers game, shit, he threw three interceptions. He was part of the reason they were in the hole 31-3. So, you can't just always go that. I mean, the Saints game, he threw an interception down the middle when they were in their own territory. It could have been caught, it was a little off target. The ball popped in the air.


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[Assistant] It led to a Saints short field and them getting points. So that's where, you know, it's nitpicky at this point. And that's, yeah, it is.


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[Assistant] I'll, I'll say this with my, that right there with Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah. I think if I was gonna, cause as I, you know, sometimes you don't really... There's always one that like... Well yeah, there, and you know me, I like to evaluate myself, but as I started to talk it out even this morning with Florio and started to talk out even more on the office and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] I do think that I probably shouldn't have had Jimmy Garoppolo in the top 16. You should or shouldn't have? I shouldn't have. Really? I think I should have made Kyler Murray 15 and Jared Goff 16 and Garoppolo 17.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I mean, I think you're exactly right. That's what I came to. I think I should have had Kyla Murray in front of him, Jared Goff 16, Garoppolo 17. I think that's if I had a redo, that would be my one little switch.


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[Assistant] And, and he's rated 11. He's 11 here on this, which was another tough one, because you're right, circumstances are tough there too. Uh, but why? What's your point there?


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[Assistant] Right. Run the ball. Play action. Let him set up. Make big throws. If he scrambles, he gets 9 or 10 yards. Energizes the team. Things like that. I mean, that's to me what they were doing the year they won the Super Bowl when he was about to be the MVP. Right.


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[Assistant] That's exactly right. Alright, you the man. We're done with you. I have no more use for you.


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[Assistant] It was a busy day. I was here on Sunday Night Football, okay? Call. And, I know, you're right, I could've called. I could've called. I should've called. I meant to call.


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[Assistant] But what happens is I get done with Sunday Night Football, I go home, I get behind in the game.


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[Assistant] What do I do here? And I just went, you know what? He hasn't made as many plays as those two this year. I just, I went back into it and just went, no, I don't think he's played to that level. It's still been good. You can still win with, with Philip Rivers. I don't mean it that way. Not in the top half of the league. I, I, I know. I can't say he


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[Assistant] He is, and you know, great. He, he, they pulled off the, they didn't pull off the upset because of him. Alright, so let's just start right there. They pulled off the upset because their defense played really well.


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[Assistant] But there's physical limitations at this point of his career. You can sit on some of his passing as far as intermediate to short passes because he doesn't beat you over the top anymore.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I, I can't say that I thought about it. I feel like my four, my four are... The four in front I feel like are...


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[Assistant] Wilson, Watson, Rogers, Mahomes. Yes, are just a notch above for me right now. I love Lamar Jackson. I do think he's an MVP candidate. There's no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] I think that Wilson and Watson are in their own little special class as of right now. I'm surprised you have Watson head Rogers, actually. Yeaah, but Watson has played so phenomenal lately. I just, I couldn't, it was a tough one. That was really tough.


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[Assistant] But Watson's been pulling like rabbits out of his ass too to what I, to what my dad says too to where it was hard for me.


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[Assistant] To turn it down. Again, you know, on a grading scale and all of those things. Like, Watson does things where I don't think the grading scale can grade it.


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[Assistant] You know, when nobody's open and the protection breaks down and he breaks four tackles and then throws a completion for 25 yards, what's the grade on that? We can't just put one plus there. It just can't be just like, Oh, that was, that was a good play. There needs to be like nine pluses for that play. And that's to me where I get into this grading thing sometimes. Cause I've heard people come at me today with, Hey,


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna give the guy a great grade for, for Kyle Shanahan designing a play where, whoa, the guy's wide open in the middle of the field, and the quarterback from Greenwich High School over here would hit it. I'm not gonna go, man, Jimmy Garoppolo's doing special stuff out here.


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[Assistant] No, that's not what quarterback play is about. That's being lucky to be with one of the best play callers in the sport. That's where, like, the grading scale doesn't tell everything all the time. So sorry.


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[Assistant] He's made more big time plays at the end of football games to help them win. Okay, I think the competition he's played, like I said, has been better. I mean, the Cowboys, you know,


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[Assistant] They played the Saints. That's the only good defense they played the whole year. They haven't played another good defense. So I'm not going to like go, oh my gosh, Amari Cooper wide open down the sidelines. Whoa, Dak Prescott. He's the only guy in football that could have thrown that one. No.


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[Assistant] That's just not where I go. It doesn't sound like you struggled having him nine in Dak 10. Well, it was close because I think a lot of Dak Prescott, but I do think Jacoby Berset has outplayed him to this point this year.


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[Assistant] With all those things I talk about, plus T.Y. Hilden hasn't really been out there for five weeks. Marlon Mack has been dealing with a high ankle sprain and he's not been like special at the running back position. So he's doing it with Zach Pascal and Chester Rogers in company too, where I go, yeaah. And you know, people are always going to look at like,


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[Assistant] You know, again, like, the Colts, they played to win the game too, so his stats weren't sexy against the Chiefs. Well, they knew the only way they're gonna beat the Chiefs is they ran the ball and kept Mahomes and company off the field, so that didn't lend itself to a great night for him.


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[Assistant] But he made the throws that are appropriate during the game and at the right time for them to win that game ultimately. But yeaah, I just think he's been a little more consistent than a Dak Prescott.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's like a whole lot farther down there. Uh, preseason you had him 17. Yep. And I would say he's probably a little lower than that at that point. You know, I'm just trying to look at some other names just to make sure. Is he break 20?


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[Assistant] Yeah, he'd be right in that 20 range, 1920, 21, you know, I look at a guy like Jameis Winston, I think that's in that conversation.


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[Assistant] Josh Allen is there, and that, that's, they're all of that. You have Josh Allen ahead of... They're in that, yeaah, I would have Josh Allen in front of him, ahead of him right now. Yes, I would. Uh, Browns have only won two games, right? Yes, right, and they've lost games cause of Baker Mayfield. Maybe lower than 20. Maybe. As I sit here and look at it, I start to go, ooh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it might be lower than that. But you know, I mean, gosh, the way Teddy Bridgewater played up to that, I mean, there's still a few guys in there that sneak in and go, they've played pretty decent football. Uh, but yeah, I would say it's somewhere between that


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[Assistant] 18 and 22 range, realistically, probably in there. Yeaah. Maybe, maybe a, maybe a tick lower. Maybe lower than that. Maybe. It might be.


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[Assistant] Sorry, sorry, sad Browns fan. You know, I find myself rooting for the Browns. I don't want them to tank. I like those guys.


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[Assistant] I mean, none of us have been a Heisman trophy winner. First pick of the draft. Awesome rookie year. Expectations on...


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[Assistant] And you still haven't ranked in the bottom quarter though. Thank you. Thank you very much. Just to remind. Any other Twitter reactions we good with the Twitters?


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[Assistant] He missed two games. He didn't, Drew Bezos only played two games. So there's a difference there. Played really well last week. He played really well. You know, I would say, listen, if he continues to play like that, yeaah.


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[Assistant] He could be up from there a little bit, but again. Yeah, I, you know, I don't know. You know, I don't know. That's very tough. Let me just say this, like, they looked really good.


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[Assistant] When Teddy Bridgewater was the quarterback, they were still one of the best teams in football. So let's like, stop putting all these quarterbacks on a pedestal. Like, oh, they can only win if that guy's not a quarterback. No, they're good. Prove me wrong. They have players, they got a good system, the things dad talked about that can help any quarterback out, let alone a lefty.


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[Assistant] Yes it does. It has very much to do with the injury satellite. And again, don't be fooled by Wentz on that too. I mean it's, they don't have a lot of help on that team for him.


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[Assistant] Oh, good old Peter King. I'm sure he's talking or writing something, cause that's what he does. The Peter King Podcast. If you read Peter's Can't Miss Football Morning in America column, uh, this week.


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[Assistant] You know, he was in the Ravens locker room Sunday night. Damn, see? That's Peter King. I mean, Peter King gets access that just, really, the rest of us don't, okay? I mean, Peter King wa-


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[Assistant] Did an interview with me when I was walking off the field in New England. That's when I knew I made it.


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[Assistant] Well, today's podcast has more of his conversation with John Harbaugh after that big win. He also speaks with Packers running back Aaron Jones about playing with


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[Assistant] Oh, Aaron Rodgers, download and subscribe wherever you find your podcast. Peter King podcast. It's worth the listen. He's smart. He knows everybody. He gets great interviews. Uh, and he's uh,


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[Assistant] Funny dude too. He is, yes he is. I have fun with Peter. His laugh makes me laugh just in general when he belts it out.


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[Assistant] I think a little bit of both, okay? Uh, so here's the play.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's basically, okay, in like, in New England terms, that would be gun two out slot, ride 134 all go. Okay, that's what they ran. In the west coast terms, it would have been double wing right close


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[Assistant] Double wing right close. Let me see what this one would have been. It might have been fake ninety...


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[Assistant] Fake 92 something all go, alright, so that's basically what it was, but it was four verticals to make it simple for everybody.


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[Assistant] You will play action to the back. The back is to the left side of Hoyer. He's got two receivers to his left in normal formation. He's got a tight end to his right and he's got a receiver there who's close to the tight end. That's why I said that double wing right close or whatever. They're playing man free? They're playing man free. Exactly right. And then there might have been even three deep really.


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[Assistant] I believe it was a three deep coverage. I thought the corner was manned up. The corner tried to steal the inside. It was, it was, I'm pretty sure it was cover three. But cover three with match principles can really look a lot like man to man. The reason I'll say it was cover three is because the back was towards the sideline of the corner. So he's keeping his eyes on the quarterback and the picture in front of him.


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[Assistant] But cover three in a lot of teams systems plays a lot like man. So you're, I mean you're not wrong and I could be wrong. As to this play though, the most important part is Fitzpatrick is playing centerfield. Fitzpatrick is playing centerfield and if you're Brian Hoyer in shotgun,


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[Assistant] If Fitzpatrick is actually not straight ahead at you, he's slightly cheated towards the two receivers to the left. He comes out of the play action and really the mistake of it is what he does after the play action. He throws a good ball.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but he stares down Doyle the whole time. He never comes out of the play action and makes Minka Fitzpatrick


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[Assistant] Just pause for a second or just stop in his tracks. You know, if he made a look towards the left.


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[Assistant] I think he throws a touchdown here and it's no doubt, like it's bam, okay, they're going in 17 to 3 and watch out, Steelers are in deep shit. But he comes out of that play action fast.


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[Assistant] He was tuned in. He watched the play action fake. He's all over the eyes of Hoyer. Hoyer's eyes went to the right. He followed him over there. And as he's running over there, he sees, whoa, it's vertical routes. And, whoa, the guy's about to throw it to the guy I'm running to. And he goes up and snags it and picks six and change the whole game from that standpoint.


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[Assistant] The inside linebacker, see how they're dropping to areas? So that's a zone coverage there. And Joe Hayden, oops, Joe Hayden, who's on the outside, he's playing what you would call like,


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[Assistant] They, he tries to steal the seams. So he's going with the outside vertical route, right? But as he sees the eyes of the quarterback go to the seam and doil, see, he's inside, but he knows, I don't have to worry about the outside breaking route, cause my underneath nickelback will get underneath


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[Assistant] The comeback route or anything like that. So he's almost mid-pointing the two seams to where he wants to steal it. But look at Minkin Fitzpatrick in the middle of the field. Right from the snap


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[Assistant] And then this is where like you'd like an experienced guy like Julian Edelman or a really good like polished guy here would have like gone at the outside edge of that guy who's gonna push him wide and then snuck up inside because then it would again put the pressure on him. He would have saw him and maybe that slows him down to a degree.


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[Assistant] You know, you have to be aware of these plays with Brian Hoyer, what the safety's intentions are, and you have to play off that. Like, and again, listen, I'm not sitting here trying to say I was anything special, but my experience with things like this, if the safety's going that way already,


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[Assistant] Let him go that way. I would have stared down Doyle and just made him go over there and then came back and patted the ball and even though Chester Rogers was wide and not on his landmark, you had all that grass there where I was just gonna go, okay, Minka's out of that now. I stared his ass all the way off the field here.


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[Assistant] And now there's this huge hole there to where, okay, I got all this area to throw Chester Rogers a football. But again, it's a tough situation. Hoyer played phenomenal. This was really like his only mistake of the football game.


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[Assistant] The Colts, long story short, they beat the Steelers 9 out of 10 times. This play right here, they get a safety later on and Chester Rogers, oddly enough, fumbles the kick return.


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[Assistant] That you get after the safety that gave the short field to the, the, uh, Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, those plays alone, let alone their field goal kicker just being on fire for the day, won the game for them.


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[Assistant] Oh gosh, he almost picked it off or the ball got tipped in the air and Minka almost caught it. Like, so he's rarely out of position because he does have great feel and instincts that way.


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[Assistant] He helps in the running game, even though he has a free safety. You know, he's not a guy that's like, strong safety up in the box, but because again, he's smart and can diagnose plays pretty quickly, he will announce, he's not over aggressive.


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[Assistant] He kinda shoots his gun right at the right moment to go, oh okay, let's not play action, let me get down there and be an extra body in the run game.


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[Assistant] So now if the running back does break through, maybe before he would have broke through and gone, whoa, there's another 30 yards. He's there to stop it for a six or seven yard game instead. He's very good at like tackling and spakes. Not that he's a big hitter, but it'll get you down. And then he can match up with tight ends and people like that to help in the pass game too.


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[Assistant] He's really, this is his position. This is something I was, I really preached about, you know, because Alabama used him so many different ways. He played corner and nickel majority of the time. I never thought he was fast enough to play corner. He is a, to me, a nickel.


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[Assistant] Well, I think the first thing is, you don't have Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram, so you're not going to be able to do some of the things that they did. I mean, they whooped ass. I've never seen, I gotta say, maybe in the last two years, I haven't seen the two tackles for the Packers, or really...


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[Assistant] The majority of their offensive linemen get beat in pass protection the way they did in that game.


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[Assistant] No, that's the thing. It was not confusion. It was more like, hey, we got Melvin Ingram and Bosa on the same side, and we got a one-on-one with Billy Turner and Melvin Ingram. And then Balaga's got Joey Bosa.


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[Assistant] And oh shit, Billy Turner is one on one with Melvin Ingram? Oh crap. You know, we can't double both of these guys. What do we do? And then they might stand a guy in the line of scrimmage on the other side to where the center can't go over there to help those two guys out. So they did little things like that just to make sure they got one on ones.


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[Assistant] They're phenomenal. That's the brogram. I mean Joey Bosa, the bro, the ultimate bro, that's what he's a bro. He's such a bro. And then Melvin Ingram is like, I mean,


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[Assistant] He's a sledgehammer. So there wasn't much schematically that other teams can be like, yes. No, because it's Seattle's scheme. They were able to consistently drop seven into coverage all game because man, our pass rush is getting home and Ingram and Bosa gave Bakatiari and Balaga


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[Assistant] Their money's worth more than any two I can remember in recent history. I mean, they really, it was a straight up butt whooping across the board. I do think that the Packers got away from what's made them a little bit. Play action pass did not really exist. They didn't really give any credence to the run game in general. I mean, there just was no, no, uh, what do I want to say?


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[Assistant] Patience or fortitude to stay with it a little bit. It was 6-0 and like if you didn't look at the score I would have gone, are they down 21-0? Like why are they in the shotgun every play again? Here we go. Like what are they doing?


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[Assistant] You know, so, that, that, that to me more than not was a big issue. Hey, Devonte Adams being back, you know, I don't think he's totally 100%.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think Aaron Rodgers a few times was over aggressive.


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[Assistant] And when I say over-aggressive, like, he took the one-on-one deep shot where I wanna go, ooh, if he just played the three-man concept here to the right,


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[Assistant] They might have got a first down on third and eight, but he went for the jugular to like a cumero down the middle and through a 50 yard post where the guy just misses it. Just a few of those plays and a tight football game that matter. And you also written down your notes. You got a lot open for the Packers. There was not a lot open in the Packers pass game. You know, I'm not like.


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[Assistant] Their drop back pass game is good, but I don't sit there again and just go, oh my gosh, this is like, you know, Sean Payton and the Saints or, or, you know, Josh McDaniels or any of those guys. It's not that creative. It's got all the staples you want. And then Roger's talent kind of takes it over the top.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so there, there is that issue. But I'll tell you the other thing, our man Jerry Tillery from Notre Dame, he pops. Cause he's a, we know, he's a son of a bitch in the inside, pass rushing and stuff. So he's come along and got used to life in the NFL.


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[Assistant] So they have like three Difference Makers right now going a little bit there. And yeah, the Chargers, it was one of those games where you turned it on right away and you went, hmm, the Chargers look like they're playing in fast forward.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and the, the Packers are playing like, you know, just at normal speed. It didn't look right from the get-go.


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[Assistant] It was ass-kicking by pretty good personnel and I would say...


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[Assistant] Like I wrote three things down that bothered me about the game. The pass for 0-1. They were very simple.


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[Assistant] Like, the one thing I've loved is they've had a wrinkle or two in the drop back pass game in every game, and they've had a few new ways to run our play action passes that we've talked about a lot. That didn't exist in this game for some reason, and I don't understand that, because to me, and then there was no screens.


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[Assistant] Those are the things you do to stop people like Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram. That's what you do.


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[Assistant] If New England was playing, those teams, they'd go, Hey, we gotta slow down this pass for us. Let's run the ball. So they have to defend the run and worry about that. Let's run screens so they can fly upfield and we'll take care of, take advantage of that. And then let's run the play action too. So they have to go, Oh wait, it's a run.


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[Assistant] Oh, let me restart, it's a pass, let me try to pass rush now. That's what, like, a smart...


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[Assistant] That's to me what a smart game planner would do to the Chargers, and I don't know what happened out there, but Green Bay just hit a lull, not only with their play, coaching play design, it happens, you're right, it's a long season.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I'm not ready to say that yet, but we'll see. If that filters into this week and we see them laying egg against the Carolina Panthers, then maybe we will be a little concerned. You know what it says next year on my list here?


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[Assistant] Subscribe, rate, review. Hope everybody enjoyed it. I'm glad Big Phil got to come on and talk about the, uh, yeah, that was good. He was playing Grandad. He was playing Grandad with, uh, my little, my little nephew, Patrick, who's as cute as a button. Uh, I bet he calls him on his birthday. Not that he has a phone.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah, just keep rubbin' it in. You're gonna keep rubbin' it in, you asshole, okay? Alright? Yeah. Alright, thank you. That's all it says. That's it, we're done. Yeah. We have no more use for you people at home. Week 10 picks tomorrow, you and Mike. Me and Mike, PFTPM, Chris Simpson, Button Collaboration. I'm pretty sure Mike beat me in my picks last week. I did not have a good week.


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[Assistant] Okay, I got the 49ers right. I picked the Jaguars to upset the Texans, so I'm one and one. I picked the Bills, two and one. I picked the Titans, two and two. I picked the Vikings, two and three. I picked the Jets to beat the Dolphins, two and four.


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[Assistant] I got the Eagles, so that's 3 and 4. I picked the Colts to win. Over the Steelers, 3 and 5.


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[Assistant] And kinda ferocious right now. Ferocious. I'm not gonna, like, go over the top yet, but I'm getting close.


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[Assistant] Man, you know, Paul, I can't think of anybody.


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[Assistant] If it can go wrong, it will go wrong. And it doesn't go wrong.


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[Assistant] Your phrase that you use, f it up, it's called muck it up.


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[Assistant] Alright, and here's the other thing that you said that is so true that you're at the mercy always.


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[Assistant] And TV, when you're talking about a lot of, lot of players, uh, TV lies too.


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[Assistant] And I heard you talking about Aaron Rodgers and.


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[Assistant] I just remember traveling before this age of technology and we would watch.


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[Assistant] The takes of the games at the team's facility on Friday at the practice.


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[Assistant] And Greg Gumbel would sit there, poor Greg Gumbel, and he'd go, oh my god, how long are we gonna watch? But he would watch and we would be talking and he goes,


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[Assistant] I thought it was a brilliant game plan by Mike Zimmer. And you know, you can't.


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[Assistant] Look, you can't be a genius of everything. So he says, you know what? We'll just stop the run. Right. Let's do that.


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[Assistant] And he did not chicken out and bail out of it and he stayed with it till the end and it won him the game.


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[Assistant] Uh, this past week gives me much more confidence in them going forward because


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[Assistant] They, they can do either formula, you know, so they could say, we're going to stop the past.


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[Assistant] And then try to hold up against a run or they can do what they did down there against Dallas.


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[Assistant] You know, they could do what they want. You know what? When you don't have enough big people.


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[Assistant] Then you don't have enough big people. So it's hard to say, oh, we're going to stop the run. Well, that doesn't work unless you have that group of guys that can just stand in there and, and do what they did against Ezekiel. Isn't it?


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[Assistant] What at the end of the game, what you say about Jason Garrett, not Jason Garrett, but the fact that they, they got caught.


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[Assistant] You know, I've played in a many of games, and I've done broadcasts many, I said, there's two agendas here.


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[Assistant] And you know that. And so it's been a lot of criticism thrown at the Cowboys and Kyle Shanahan.


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[Assistant] Same thing, you know, you gotta go, we wanna win, but let's don't lose.


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[Assistant] And uhm, I thought they made, when I was watching the game, I just went, oh my gosh.


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[Assistant] They might not take any time off the clock, especially at the second down throw.


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[Assistant] And uh, yeaah, he can really straighten that leg, left leg out.


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[Assistant] Hey, I heard you talk about him. I mean, physically, he's just so big and strong, he could overcome some defects, but go ahead.


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[Assistant] Well, it's a good argument. It's a good argument, Paul. But the fact is, it's second and two.


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[Assistant] And that's interesting. CF angle, you say it's open.


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[Assistant] But, but I'll get to watch it first and everything, but all that what you've just said in this short period of time.


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[Assistant] Really just gives you a little more, gives me more confidence in the Vikings, uh, about their defense and about Mike Zimmer. And you know, it's just, it's.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's right. You don't make changes in personnel or the thoughts of your teaching or what you want to run. It's constantly evolving.


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[Assistant] And every year, what your core plays is one year that works and Christopher Paul, you know it too. The following year you go, wow, these plays stink. And you've got to find that new five plays that you can call upon that.


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[Assistant] We have guys on the other side now that see so much and know so much. They're smart and they're more talented than ever.


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[Assistant] The ending that cowboy game, that is really, really awesome. And the one play.


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[Assistant] The outside zone one is the one that you just gotta go, okay, that is the one you point to that, that lost in the game.


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[Assistant] Boy, that's tough. Tough. But you know, my thought right now is the Steelers.


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[Assistant] You know, the Buffalo Bills, real quick, yeah, their defense is really just, man, they're flying, they're hitting, it's aggressive, they're big.


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[Assistant] I mean they got multiple guys that can sack the quarterback. Minka Fitzpatrick is, you know, turned out to be one of the greatest.


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[Assistant] Acquisitions during the season, like Amari Cooper last year.


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[Assistant] But the bills worry me, the offense is too stagnant.


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[Assistant] And you know, they're another one. Just Nick Chubb, just.


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[Assistant] Just got every tough yard there was last week. You know, I worry about the run defense.


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[Assistant] Keep expecting the offensive line. Oh, it's just going to dominate, dominate without a win it for him. And that's not been the case for the last couple of weeks either. No. And, and yeah, so, and then, yeah, and then of course,


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then, and I watched it. Yes, they probably, well, you know, I can, uh, it's not against Brian Hoyer. They're going to win that game if Jacoby Percept was healthy.


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[Assistant] But you know, that's the way it goes. You know, everybody in the league is winning.


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[Assistant] I don't know how many teams they're winning with their backup quarterback and all that. And it didn't work for the Colts in this game, but I'll say this Miami. I got great respect for what they've done the last four weeks.


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[Assistant] And I'm not going to say they out hit the Pittsburgh Cedars, that's kind of almost impossible to do.


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[Assistant] And you know what I noticed too, Paul? Watching them close this week, I watched their game.


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[Assistant] Cause I, I thought I was going to do something on this thing there. So, so on Monday, I like to try to get ahead and, um.


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[Assistant] I noticed, I go, ooh, I like this guy. I like-


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[Assistant] You know, I really mean that. What's the difference between all the teams I just put out there? Uh, nothing.


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[Assistant] You're right, nothing. The bangles, I mean the bangles.


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[Assistant] Well, the Bengals are the worst of all of them. Yes, they are. There's no doubt about that. But Miami, oh, Tank Pertua. How's that working out everybody? Yeah.


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[Assistant] And, and I go, that's a good one. And he goes, so that's why he goes, hell coach you when you're losing, you coach harder.


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[Assistant] Because you can't erase that. And it always stays with the writers, the talkers, and the public. That record always, coaching record is this.


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[Assistant] No matter what, you know, especially when you take over teams that are horrendous and you throw off two really bad years.


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[Assistant] Uh, but the Dolphins really a lot, a lot of credit to them. Discipline and...


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[Assistant] Paul, when you get a chance, uh, muck it up, son, okay? Okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, I got up here and sat down seven minutes ago, and that's how long it took you to put your billboard on to your


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[Assistant] You didn't care about that one last week when it was seven. Now you care about it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, this is one that I think the Ravens went easily, although I'm concerned about the spread. The spread is a little high. The spread is almost so high at 15 and a half that it has me thinking about the Jets as a potential best bets pick, cause I don't see the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Scoring a dramatically greater number of points in the Jets. I do think the Ravens win 27 to 14. That's my pick. So that's the Ravens to cover the, or to win, the Jets to cover. And, uh, I'm just, I don't like that spread. That spread's too much. I thought it would be more around 11 or 12 points.


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[Assistant] Let me say why, let me say why. Because Lamar Jackson's banged up.


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[Assistant] And, you know, they may be a little more careful with him. They may get RG3 in the game at some point. I just don't feel like this is gonna be 59 to 10 like week one. Like, the Ravens don't have anything to prove. Yea, they're playing in prime time. The last time they were in prime time, they stomped the shit out of the Rams.


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[Assistant] They don't need to stomp the Jets to convince people that they're good. They just need to win the game. And they have the Browns and the Steelers coming up. They're trying to clinch the one seed. I just don't think they need to use all their ammunition tonight, and that makes me think they're not gonna cover.


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[Assistant] It's the last Thursday night game of the year, and it's arguably one of the worst Thursday night games of the year, and hopefully it'll be entertaining, but we'll see.


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[Assistant] Yeah, look, I remember there was a time not that long ago when Panthers Seahawks felt like it possibly could be the new Peyton Manning Tom Brady rivalry with Russell Wilson and Cam Newton going toe to toe and they had some great games and they, they, the Panthers kind of caught up with the Seahawks but now Cam Newton's long gone even though he's still with the Panthers.


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[Assistant] Kyle Allen and Russell Wilson doesn't have the same zing to it. I think this is one of the Seahawks win because they need to win it. The Panthers have been falling apart ever since the firing of Ron Rivera. They were falling apart before that second straight year in the second half of the season. They've been in a free fall.


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[Assistant] They were uninspired under Perry Fuel last week. You had Dante Jackson calling out the defense. They just got some disarray.


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[Assistant] Christian McCaffrey is still a very potent weapon, but it's not enough to make a difference. The, the offense isn't what it was earlier this year and the Seahawks are going to be driven. They're going to be motivated. They played plenty of games in Charlotte and I think they win the game. I'm not, I don't think it's going to be a blowout, but I think they win the game and I think they cover. I've got 27-20.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be even uglier now because I think Bill Belichick is gonna try to cram it up Zach Taylor's ass sideways after the instigation of Spygate 2 by the Bengals. The way that it all came out. Taylor having somebody who works for the team, Dave Lapham, Keller Commentator for the radio broadcast.


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[Assistant] That handshake at the end of the game is gonna be must-see TV. And I think the Patriots are gonna stomp the Bengals. This is the kind of thing that Belichick will use to light a fire under his team. His players will respond. I got 34 to 13. The Patriots win and they win big.


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[Assistant] They also may not have quarterback Jameis Winston. It's not known at this point whether or not he's going to be able to play, and I think that's a big deal for this game.


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[Assistant] Ryan Griffin would come in and take over, and at one point on Sunday, in the Buccaneers game against the Colts, it looked like Griffin was indeed going to play and finish the game, but Evans plays, he's got a crack in his thumb, he's having a hard time gripping the thumb, we, we know very well what happens when your thumb's injured, you just have to do this over and over and over again. Yea, you met Winston, you said Evan.


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[Assistant] Yes, yes. Jamus, Jamus, Jamus, Jamus, Jamus Evans, Jamus Winston. But you know, you have to do this over and over again. Exercises, exercises. Six weeks later, your thumb is healed. I, I, I still think that the Bucs win this game even if Winston doesn't play because


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[Assistant] It is still David Blau playing quarterback for the Lions. And I feel like the Lions have just kind of given up. They kind of folded the tents. And Matthew Stafford being out hurts badly. Matt Patricia.


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[Assistant] Whether or not he keeps his job remains to be seen, but I just think these lines have shut down and they're making business decisions on a regular basis and they just want to get this season over with. So, I like the Buccaneers in this one.


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[Assistant] 34-24. I still think that offense is potent without Evans or Winston. Bruce Ariens is going to score some points and I don't think the Lions are going to be able to keep up with him.


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[Assistant] You know, MDS and I were talking about this yesterday on the PFDPM podcast. The question came up of Winston's future. And I'm starting to think the best move for the Buccaneers with this guy is to just use the transition tag.


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[Assistant] Cause nobody else is gonna come in and try to sign him. It's cheaper than the franchise tag. It gives you one more year. Maybe you can use the transition tag as the starting point for a short-term bridge deal that you've advocated. Right. But I'm starting to think the transition tag is the answer. Cause I don't think they have to worry about anyone else trying to take him.


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[Assistant] I think they can. I think the Packers have been uninspired lately in the games that they've won and when they lose they look horrible.


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[Assistant] I think this is a very dangerous game for the Packers. I think they know it's a dangerous game and I think that they'll rise to the occasion. I'm not willing to pick the Bears in this one, but I will not be surprised if the Bears pull that off. The Bears aren't just playing for a very


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[Assistant] Oh, Aaron Rodgers and company. The Packers will get it done. I think it's going to be close. I got a 23-20 Green Bay, but I will not be surprised if the Bears end up winning.


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[Assistant] With the Chiefs in position now to really reach for that brass ring and try to maybe get themselves a buy in the, uh, in the AFC playoff.


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[Assistant] After beating the Patriots, I don't see them slipping up here.


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[Assistant] I like the Chiefs to win this one. Uh, 31-21, so I have them just covering. I had the initial score. No, actually, you know what I've decided to do here? I originally, once I saw the spread, I bumped it a little bit to let them cover, but I thought, you know what? I'm gonna thread the needle. Not that it's a, it's a pretty big needle. I go 30-23.


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[Assistant] Chiefs over Broncos. I think the Broncos will cover in this one. I think they're good enough to stay close, but I think the Chiefs will win the game. 30-23.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright. And here's the other thing too. If I'm the Chiefs, I'm gonna beat the Broncos while I can because by next year it could be very, very different as you've alluded to.


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[Assistant] No, SNY, Ralph Acchiano reported on Wednesday it's likely to be Eli Manning. It's going to be Eli Manning. The Eli Manning farewell tour has to continue. That's the only reason to go to the game. They're making it look like it's an injury that Daniel Jones may come back from.


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[Assistant] This is Eli Manning's opportunity to play on his way out the door. More people will come to the game, and there's more interest in the team as we try to figure out, hey, is Eli Manning playing or not playing? And I think he will be playing, and I think he'll be playing the rest of the year, barring some sort of a disaster.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I think they're gonna win. Maybe it could be his last home win of his career. Much better chance to beat the Dolphins than the Eagles, Week 17. And, uh, I think he will play, I think the Giants will show up, and I think the Giants will win the game.


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[Assistant] Fueled by, fueled by a bad call, a makeup call from Al Riveron of past interference that shouldn't have been overturned, that will be overturned, and I'm gonna get


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[Assistant] The Titans to win, 27 to 23. So that's 50 points. So if it's under, it's not gonna be under by much. So I'm probably gonna stay away from that over under. I like the Titans in this one, 27, 23. I think the Titans are gonna win the division. The Texans may not make it to the playoffs at all. They better hold on. They better hope that they get some, uh,


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[Assistant] Some, uh, some wins somewhere down the stretch that they don't have to worry about the Steelers because it could be that the t-


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[Assistant] Quickly it changes and potentially could change. And the team that used to be in Houston!


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[Assistant] As the Oilers, the Titans could screw up the season and really create some major questions for owner Cal McNair. Remember, when things are going well, well, he's thinking about not hiring a GM. Well, he may be thinking about hiring a GM if they end up not making the playoffs. And right now, I won't be surprised if they fail to make it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well I agree and we agree and it should be a great game and the Titans will move into first place in the AFC South and they are a team you do not want to mess with in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] On Monday night, and I think they're going to continue what they did. They understand the importance, even though they could probably lose this one and still have the season come down to next week against the Cowboys. You don't, you don't want that to be the case. This is the opportunity for the Eagles to pull into a one game lead because I think the Cowboys, spoiler alert, will lose to the Rams.


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[Assistant] I think the Eagles can win this game. 23-16 is the score. Carson Wentz showed me something. Second half and overtime.


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[Assistant] Working with a collection of nobodies. And we've said this before. Swap out Jared Goff and Carson Wentz and see how each guy would do. Right. And uh, Carson Wentz getting the most out of the least. When you're talking about 40 year old quarterback Josh McCown coming into play receiver.


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[Assistant] In overtime because they had no one left. They had one guy left. That tells you how bad the injuries have been for the skill position players and they still won that game and I think they'll be fine this weekend. I think they win and the showdown is coming week 16.


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[Assistant] I don't think anybody, anybody with options is not gonna want that job unless Bruce Allen is indeed gone. And I've heard that instead of him being fired, he's gonna be allowed to retire. If he's gone, that changes things. But it's not gonna be a desirable job if he's still there.


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[Assistant] You know, the Cardinals have been better this year than I thought they would be. The record doesn't reflect it. They played the Steelers tough. The Browns are still...


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[Assistant] Trying to establish something, get to the right side of 500. The playoffs aren't realistic for them at this point, but they're trying to just do something to show that there's reason to stay the course with Freddie Kitchens. They've got dysfunction, they've got distractions, but I think they'll get it together. It'll be a close game, I believe. Baker Mayfield versus Kyler Murray, and also Baker Mayfield, even though he took the high road,


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[Assistant] And didn't suggest that he wants to stick it to Cliff Kingsbury. I think once he gets to the game, he's going to want to stick it to Cliff Kingsbury. And I think Mayfield will have a good game. OBJ may be able to do something. Jarvis Landers has been great all year. Nick Chubbs leading the NFL in rushing. I think 24-21 Browns over the Cardinals. So I don't feel real strongly about it.


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[Assistant] I like what Kyler Murray can do and, uh, you know, the Browns defense without Myles Garrett isn't as good as it was. But, uh, Browns win.


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[Assistant] Close game, 24-21. I wouldn't be surprised if the Cardinals win, but between the two, the Browns are still the better team.


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[Assistant] I said, okay, here's what's gonna happen. They're gonna be seven and seven going into the last two weeks of the season and they're gonna need to beat the Packers and the Bears to get to the playoffs and we'll see whether or not Kirk Cousins pisses down his leg like he's done each of the last two times and the only two times he's been in a week 17 situation where you have to win to get to the playoffs and if you lose you don't make it.


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[Assistant] I think even though the Vikings are better than I thought they'd be at this point, my concern is with the Rams on their tails, the margin for error may be down to zero.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I'm concerned that, that, uh, the chargers who blew the Jaguars off the field last week, they're still playing hard, they're still passionate.


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[Assistant] Adam Thielen may be back, which helps, but this is a very good defense that the Chargers have, and the Vikings just need to, you know what, it's good for the Vikings that the Chargers won as big as they did, because I think it makes it easier for Mike Zimmer to get his team's attention that this is a big game.


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[Assistant] And this is the last time they're going on the road until the playoffs, if they make it to the playoffs. And I think that they need to get in their head. You know what? This is the kind of business trip that they need, the mindset that they need when they go on the road, if they're going to be successful in the postseason. Now's the time to start.


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[Assistant] Putting it together, going away from home, kicking some butt, and then coming home and hoping they can hold serve the last two games and get into the playoffs.


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[Assistant] There was a report yesterday that he's expected to play. I still worry about-


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[Assistant] His ability to perform at a high level because I feel like there's that temptation to, to


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[Assistant] To get him back on the field and they've been careful with it. I, I, but I think the fact that there's even a suggestion to play shows that the Vikings understand the importance of this game. If they have him back, it will be a difference maker. And, uh, the report that I saw yesterday is that he's expected to play.


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[Assistant] See, I think the Vikings make a field goal late to tie it at 24, then get the touchdown in overtime to make it 30-24. So we're, we agree on everything except how it's gonna end.


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[Assistant] But no, but usually I am inclined when I think they're going to lose to say I think they're going to lose. I've probably been more wrong than right with them this year because, uh, you know, they've, they've, uh, they've won all the games as opposed to win and then they've won a few games I thought they were going to lose.


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[Assistant] When you consider that the Jaguars lost at home, 45 to 10 to the Chargers last week, this is going to be a bloodletting.


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[Assistant] By the Raiders. This is it. The last game ever played there. A three-year divorce in the making. And, uh, you know, this is it. This is the Super Bowl for the Raiders. They're not gonna make it to the playoffs. This is the only way they can end the season on a high note. And the Jaguars don't give a shit at this point. So, I, I, uh, I think the Raiders win and they win big. I got 37 to 20.


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[Assistant] Well, the Cowboys will win the opening toss, take the ball, or the Rams will win the toss and defer, and the Cowboys go right down the field, the score touch down,


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[Assistant] And then it'll all fall apart, just like it has each of the last two games. I just don't believe in the Cowboys at this point. They've deserved it, they've earned it.


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[Assistant] And the Rams all of a sudden are playing much, much better. This is gonna be a tough one for the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] And, and, and the Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett angle, I love that. Wade Phillips fired during the season in 2010 by the Cowboys. Jason Garrett was given the job. Jason Garrett was getting paid more than Wade Phillips at the time, reportedly. I, I like the, the Rams to win this one, 31 to 20. They are finally using Todd Gurley.


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[Assistant] Uh, with no concern about whether or not he's going to be able to get out of bed the next day. And I think that was the thing that was holding the offense back all year long. They were afraid to overuse him because they didn't want him to not be available when the games counted the most. Now that they're in desperation mode and they need to keep winning, I think that we will see.


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[Assistant] Uh, Todd Gurley firing on all cylinders and the Cowboys just, they were uninspired last week and they needed to win. They were uninspired against the Bills and they needed to win. There's no reason to think it's gonna change. I think, I think their bubble burst when they lost to the Patriots. That they felt like that was their chance for a signature win.


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[Assistant] They didn't do it, and I think they just kind of collectively, just after Jerry Jones said what he said, I just feel like the wind came out of the sails, and uh, I think it's gonna continue. 31 to 20, the Rams over the Cowboys.


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[Assistant] No, it's good. I, I, you know, this is a, it's one of the best games of the day. And, uh, if the Vikings do indeed lose, the Rams and Minnesota will be tied at nine and five with two games left. And the Rams go to San Francisco prime time next Saturday night.


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[Assistant] Let me just say this, the day after that game, Tony Dungy was on this show, it was before you were part of the show, and Tony said it's on the head coach to say, whoa, kite, no, no, we're not gonna throw the ball here, we're gonna run the ball, and I made the point that if the coach doesn't do it,


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[Assistant] The quarterback is the last ditch. And, and, you think Peyton Manning?


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[Assistant] He would have said screw it, I'm running the ball here. I'm winning the Super Bowl. This is stupid. We're taking the field goal. We're putting the game out of reach and we're going home. So, uh, Matt Ryan could have done that and you could argue he should have done that. If you want to be in that true class with all time greats, that's the kind of thing that you do.


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[Assistant] I'm, I joked about this earlier on PFT Live, I'm picking 28-3, 49ers over Falcons. I like it. Nobody cares about the scores anyway. 28-3, 49ers win.


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[Assistant] And I think that Kyle, Kyle brings a little something extra for his former team. We saw what he did to the Browns. We saw what they did to Washington. It would have been far worse than that if they weren't playing in a monsoon the whole game. I think they're gonna stick it to the, uh, stick it to the Falcons.


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[Assistant] Uh, oh yes, uh, this is a message, and this is serious, this is serious. No screwing around here.


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[Assistant] It's about drunk driving, and this is a message from our friends at NHTSA because of the holiday season approaching. And this is very simple. I have copy to read, I don't need to read the copy.


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[Assistant] Don't drive drunk. If there's any doubt, we all have the ability to get an Uber or Lyft or, or there's still cabs out there. I've checked. You still see cabs. There are ways to get home.