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[Assistant] I would think he is going to command a pretty big price tag this year for, for my money, for what I see. I think he's one of the better corners in all of football when it comes to pure man-to-man locking people down. Uhm, let me, Kyle, use check for the 49ers. You know, that guys, again, when we talk about run, play, action.


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[Assistant] You know, linebackers can't cover him and yet you gotta still put big people on the field because he can run through the hole and help, you know, lead a tailback and smash your linebackers. So that's where it gets interesting with him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Kian O'Neill of the Atlanta Falcons, another one I'll throw out there, when he is healthy, to me is one of the more impressive physical specimens of safety in all of football. But he's been hurt, you know, probably two out of his four or five years there in Atlanta. That's an issue.


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[Assistant] He is your perfect number three. Like to me, he is a, hey, we got a pretty good one and two, and if we could just add one more guy, you know, he run blocks, he catches the ball over the middle, he can kind of be a 50-50 guy. I like his game from that aspect.


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[Assistant] Alright, so those are the ones that jump out to me. I think those are the ones that more than anything. Matt Milano is another one we talked about that I think is...


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[Assistant] There's one more thing I want, because I know this question, Pete texted me this one question.


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[Assistant] I like this question, and I think the, the, the thing I, we kinda hit on it a little bit, and I didn't wanna dive, cause I was about to dive into it a little when you asked me some other questions, but I, the, I think the size game is coming back in the NFL. The size game.


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[Assistant] Defensive front. Even offense. Offensive line. Offen- yes. Because we just talked about the play action and what it's doing and it's like you don't even have to be good at it. And you can still throw unbelievable passes off a play action pass.


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[Assistant] Yea, the NFL, the offense is especially, really the last like 10 to 12 years, it started, but really, the Patriots and the Colts started to change the league.


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[Assistant] In 2004 or 5 with the rules and hey, let's, let's get receivers and the way the rules are for the pass game and everything like that. And let's start, we'll throw it fast and quick and get it out of our hands and bubble screens and pick plays and do all that.


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[Assistant] And there was no answer to stop, you know, Brady and Manning and some of those guys for a number of years. Then the Seattle scheme came along.


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[Assistant] Seattle's scheme came along, there was eight people at the line of scrimmage, and they were like, you know, f**k your bubble screens and your wide receiver screens. We got people down here, and our linebackers all run 4-4, so f**k those plays, okay? And that started to change it, and then everybody started to go, hey, we need to find linebackers who are kind of like old safeties, but linebackers now, and do that.


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[Assistant] And I think the league now is changing to, oh, you're really fast? Well, they don't take on lead fullbacks and they don't know how to take on full pulling guards anymore. So I think you're getting into that and you're seeing New England and the Saints.


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[Assistant] And, you know, of course with what they did.


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[Assistant] To me, that's where the Rams, same thing, they're that way too. So I think the game is going that way. And where I think, you know, defenses are going to have to change a little bit.


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[Assistant] I think you're gonna start seeing more big people up front. Almost like the way the Saints defense plays. Where they're gonna go, we got big four, and now we can depend, they can stop the run, and we can find ways to stop the pass and the play action pass behind it. So to me that is,


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[Assistant] One trend that I look at, and the other thing I just say, uh, the defense of the year, and we talk about this a lot, I think like teams just senselessly blintzing has finally stopped. I think they finally realized like,


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[Assistant] It's over. It's over. Exactly right. And they're just, these quarterbacks are coming to the league and they've just played too much now that they're like,


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[Assistant] They saw it. We showed our blitz. We showed our blitz. Now they get them in the right play, and they bring the blitz, and you get gashed.


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[Assistant] That is done, I think. I saw a lot of teams this year where when they blitzed, it was still a four man pressure, it was just two dropped and two came. It was more about confusion and deception rather than beating you with sheer numbers on the blitz.


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[Assistant] And I think that is one thing I saw on the defensive side of the ball, uh, as far as changing that way too. I love it.


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[Assistant] When we were growing up, the Tony Guins of the world, the Wade Boggs of the world. Singles and doubles. Don't strike out. Right. Nobody does that anymore. It's homers and strikeouts. And that would be the other thing I would say the league has changed to too.


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[Assistant] It's homers and strikeouts. It's, it's big plays. It's turnovers. You know, I hear people a lot of times go, oh, the tackling is not as good. I don't think the teams care about the tackling as much anymore. They're more like, hey, hold them up. Let's punch the ball out. Let's get the ball back. That's the type of play that changes.


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[Assistant] Approach that way. Not to say, listen, we know we want to tackle in those things, but that's what I'm just saying. There's more of that emphasis on the game now than ever. Alright, that'll wrap up the AMA.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it's the one right up the middle. Yeaah, I remember that, right? So, well, that makes sense. Yeaah, he's... He's fast. Extremely. Well, my buddy Kyle...


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[Assistant] Has, has told me he thinks she's the fastest guy in the NFL.


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[Assistant] I would, I would pay money to see him race Tyree Kill. To me that would be the race. If you said who the two fastest guys in football, it's one of those two.


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[Assistant] I think. And that would be fun to watch. Tyreek never really got to get out this year.


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[Assistant] And hit full speed on like one of those slants and then go. Yeah. You know, even when he ran down the interception that Mahomes threw at one point, he had to like jump over somebody and then restart again. And I know he got up to like 21, 22 miles per hour, but I would pay money to see that race. So Tyreek was the fifth.


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[Assistant] He was a running back. He was a running back. Well, my thought wants to go...


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[Assistant] Hold on a second here. Let me just make sure I'm not missing anything. My thought wants to go to Jonathan Taylor. And that thought would be correct. Okay, good.


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[Assistant] Right. He really turned it on at the end of the year. He really did. I think he's, he just needed to get a little comfortable in the NFL level and figure out how he's got to play and run and that style. And yeah, he's, he's a stud. He's a star.


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[Assistant] I thought there was a play where Russell ran to his left and threw a ball to D.K. Metcalf in the back left corner. I thought that was going to be the one you were going to tell me about. Uhm, but either way, whatever. I can't remember that play. What else? Any other ones?


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[Assistant] All the time. All the time. Okay, alright, I'm just pulling up teams here, just so you know, you know me. Uhm, you know, my, my first thought really goes to Ryan Tannehill.


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[Assistant] Intended air yards, who else am I missing here? I want to think Justin Herbert would be up there too. No. No?


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[Assistant] The Sean Watson was number two. Brady is, yeaah. I mean, you really think about it. It was no dink and dunk this year. None of that. You know, it was awesome. It was play action. And you're right, every throw was aggressive all year long. Yeaah, that's amazing. I'm mad I should have got that one.


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[Assistant] Damn it. Damn it, damn it. Alright, so I remember Baker had the longest throw of the year on that Hail Mary at the end of the first half, I think, against the Ravens game. But the longest, I know I know this too, this is gonna drive me crazy. Ooh.


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[Assistant] And I know it's somebody that's not like who you would think it is, right?


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[Assistant] believe that too. Justin that was like maybe the T a deep post like that fo


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[Assistant] If he gets a chance to get going, it just, yeah, unless you're totally square on him, you're just, you're not


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[Assistant] I always, those ones I always am like, you know, there's different.


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[Assistant] I know, cause you might just get barely touched and then you run a 98 yard touchdown. I wanna say like, with like, you know, Dalvin Cook, there was more of like, like, I bounced off you and ran, where maybe some of the other guys, yeah, it was a little bit like, hey, my arm was out there, but you still got it.


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[Assistant] It would be hard for me, and it's not my final answer yet, but it would be hard for me not to think it's Rodgers with the way he threw the football this year.


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[Assistant] After that, that's where I'm just not sure, who is, who am I missing that would jump out to that?


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[Assistant] Kirk was also one of the guys, when you said intended air yards right at first, I thought of him because it seems like they throw the ball deep all the time too. Yep. Yeah, Kirk Cousins is an undervalued quarterback. There's no question.


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[Assistant] The decision itself is the start of the off-target throw. It's like, he's getting ready to throw it in there, and it's like, no, get off of it, he's not open. And as he's throwing, he realizes, well, he's not really that open, and he has to put it in like an ultra-safe place.


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[Assistant] And that leads to an off-target throw. And that, so like, he has the ability to be, it's more of the decision and the, just a little less aggressive. You know, that to me was my big complaint about him. There's too many plays where I looked at and went, why are you trying to force that in there? The guy underneath is open for 8 yards, just throw it to him.


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[Assistant] I mean, I do want to think, this is not my answer yet, I do want to think digs.


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[Assistant] I also want to thank Justin Jefferson.


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[Assistant] And I guess I would want to think Devante Adams as much as he was used as well. So which one am I gonna go? I'm gonna go Stefan Diggs. Most receiving first downs.


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[Assistant] The way Kansas City plays, how many third and sixths did he get? He's looking deep for Hill, and then, oh, there's, you know, Kelsey, eight yards over the middle, first down. Like, yeaah, that's how they played.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's close. There's a, you know, Tua, of course, if you want to build around him, it's going to have to be a traditional offense that way. Jalen Hurts, I think you got to think about.


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[Assistant] You know, not that it has to be Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson, but I do think you have to start thinking that if you want to go with him...


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[Assistant] You gotta formulate your offense off the strength of your player. And one of the best things he brings to the table is he's a special runner. He is. He's a special runner. Uhm, so I hear what they're saying there. You know, and again, we got questions about both. I'll be interested to see what both of those teams do at that position this offseason.


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[Assistant] You the man. Thanks for driving the ship as always. Always enjoy it. Uh, we'll be back Wednesday. That's what we do.


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[Assistant] I don't know what we're gonna hit on quite yet, but we'll have a game plan to make it interesting, have fun, and I don't know, we'll start breaking down free agency. Keep sending in questions too. Listen, I'm gonna continue to wrap my head around this quarterback stuff, all of that.


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[Assistant] Uh, a ton of draft stuff this week to get going on that. Everybody be good out there. Stay, stay, stay warm. It's snowing in the northeast again. Yea, it's pretty bad. Uh, shocker. Wow.


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[Assistant] It is. I mean, it's like we get four inches every other day. I've never seen anything like it. Thank God I have my high top dock sider. Oh, good thing you got those today. Way to go. Alright, you the man. And you got red on. Here we go. Peace out. You the man. We'll see you Wednesday. Okay. No, not me. Clap it up.


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[Assistant] That's right, that is right, no code words here, we just give you straight facts, no bullshit, that's what we do here at Kristen's on Button.


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[Assistant] I would agree with that. I mean, you can't pull that off in the NFL. Not with salary cap and free agency as even things are, right?


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[Assistant] There's no, yea, we know who the big, uh, the big market teams are, the traditional powers, but it's not necessarily like I want to see them in a super league every year from now to the end of time. Right. I mean, some of these teams are crappy right now.


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[Assistant] You're doing that. Thanks. It's a big stress off my life, I'll tell you that much. Being done now? Yes, like, you know, it's one of those things where it's just like, the list seems forever that you're looking at and you're just like,


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[Assistant] Okay, I'm gonna chip away. It's day one. Whoa, I'm not even close. And it makes me anxious. It gives me anxiety. Cause I was always just like, well, I got a few more guys I gotta watch. Ooh, I hope I watched everybody I needed to watch. Cause you know the Patriots are gonna take some


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[Assistant] Really what I try to do more than anything is just cover my ass for the first three rounds. So listen, if you're looking like for sixth round picks and things like that, for the most part, this is not the podcast to go to. Do it yourself. Yeah, I'm not, I don't go that far down the line, but I would say like realistically, this is my third notebook full


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[Assistant] Uh, I didn't quite fill this up, so I would say I'm around 200 players I've watched, I think. Uh, so it's good, but I am glad I'm done and now I can kinda start to figure out the mock draft and just figure out how this draft goes all together.


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[Assistant] Alright, listen, I always had the biggest problem with the helmets, alright? They're not changed, that's okay. That's okay. That's not gonna change, as I, as I told you, I was told by someone very high ranking in their, in their organization that was not gonna change anytime soon. But I like the unis. Like, are you?


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[Assistant] I like that. Yea, we don't need, you know, all those colors on the shoulder. We know what colors they are. I do. I like the way, the look there. It's really the first time I've gotten a look at the side of the pant there. There's a cool little stripe that's all to it.


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[Assistant] Out of the ones we've seen so far. And first off, I'm a little surprised with all these uniform combinations. They didn't come up with an orange pants to go all orange with a jersey. That was the only thing I was shocked by a little bit. But out of all of them, what was your favorite look? If you could go back to that first picture, Kristen. I like the white. I know, the Joe Burrow uniform. Yes.


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[Assistant] Good update of the uniform. Correct. I agree with that. I like the all whites, I like the all blacks, and I like the black with the white bottom. That was, I think, my three favorites there.


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[Assistant] No, I'm not ready to say that. No, I'm not. You know, again, when you change this, and if you have some success and start to win some games, it can make it look cooler. All of a sudden you start to go, you know, they're kind of cool. I don't know why. Wins mean it's cooler.


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[Assistant] I have a problem with saying bangles. I do. I say bangles like the, you know, 80s song, uh, music group. Like bangles? And I get crap all the time. Would you like stop? That's an 80s music group. You know what I get crap for? What?


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[Assistant] Well, I think it depends on who that number three pick is, right? I think that's really the thing, you know, more than anything.


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[Assistant] You know, of course, anybody that's listening to the podcast or anything like that, you know, uh, I've been telling you.


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[Assistant] That I, I feel like guys like Trey Lance and Justin Fields probably need a year.


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[Assistant] So, that scenario, that makes sense. Yeaah, for those guys to be there and do that. Now, I'll get into the same thing I've said just with this all together.


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[Assistant] You Jimmy G, the 49ers, whether you draft a Lance or a Fields with a number three pick, there's a good chance they're a good football team this year and they go to the playoffs. And then we're going to have this guy like, Oh, do we really want to put Fields or Lance in? Jimmy G is.


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[Assistant] He brought us deeper into the playoffs two or the last three years. I think that's very risky.


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[Assistant] You know, so, I'm almost to the point where even with guys like Fields and Lance, I'm like...


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[Assistant] The hell was sitting out? Just, let's play. Let's get out there and play. And I especially feel that way a little bit with Lance. You know,


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[Assistant] That's where, like, the Lance conversation, whether it's this scenario or the Falcons at four, right, with Matt Ryan there and he'll sit. How long are we gonna go without this kid playing football?


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[Assistant] He didn't play last year, so we're gonna set another year out. He only really, you know, he had the one year at North Dakota State, so there's limited playing altogether, limited throwing, and we're gonna have another year of just sitting there behind somebody and all that. That's one of my concerns with him all the way.


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[Assistant] I, uh, he's like, I heard this cute phrase the other day, and I thought, ooh, that's kind of Trey Lance. Like he's a year away from being a year away.


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[Assistant] You know, and that's what I think would scare me a little bit there either way. But I guess back to the point is, yes, that's a doable scenario. Now, if it's Mac Jones, I, I, your, your


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[Assistant] You're getting Mac Jones or moving up to number three, if that's the guy you've got in your, your sights. Yeah. Cause you think he is ready. He is NFL ready. And to me, that's why, again, I go back to, I really think it is Mac Jones at number three because there's too many ifs, ands, and buts, and candies, and nuts with the other guys for me, even though they have some really


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[Assistant] There's some negatives there and some ifs and big questions where I just, I can't imagine Shanahan trading up to number three for that, but I could be wrong.


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[Assistant] I think the chatter, I think people were intrigued. Listen, you know, as I said, it's a tough eval. You know, first off, I don't love his motion. I don't think it's the most natural throwing motion in the world. I don't. You've heard my concerns with that type of stuff.


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[Assistant] I think with most teams, he's surpassed, uh, Justin Fields in their quarterback rankings. And I would tell you, again, I don't know, you know, if you remember when I did my quarterback rankings, him and Fields were so close. I gave Fields the advantage just because he played football.


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[Assistant] But I even said at the time, there's more consistency in the throwing motion of Trey Lance as compared to Fields. But yes, I think with most teams in the NFL, I think Trey Lance has surpassed Justin Fields as far as where they rank him. This is a really good one.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean, I love Kellen Mann. You know that. I think he is worthy of...


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[Assistant] You know, somewhere in that area. 12's too high for you? Yeah, 12 might be a little high, but I mean, there's no such thing as too high for quarterbacks anymore. It's almost like- There's no such thing.


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[Assistant] Like do you like them or not? Right. Exactly. Do you like them? Do you need a quarterback? I don't care where you think you should go, then go get them. Like that's where we're at. That's what drives me crazy about the draft yet. You know, like I have some coaches who


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[Assistant] Man, it's so apparent, I don't know why I didn't listen to you more during that time and all that.


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[Assistant] I would probably say Kellenmond and keep the picks. You would. I probably would. Yeaah. Now, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm not normal with my Kellenmond analysis. No. I'm, I'm definitely...


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[Assistant] You know, higher than the rest of the world. Like I sold you, I think last week, I still think there's a chance he sneaks in on the end of the first round. If not, I expect him to be the first guy off the board towards the top of the second round. Uh, but yeaah, I probably would value those picks, take that. And as I sold to you last week,


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[Assistant] I mean, hey, you know, I love Shanahan and Lynch and had the ultimate. I would have not traded up for number three in this draft period. I wouldn't have done it. I didn't, I didn't think Mac Jones, Trey Lance, or Justin Fields, any of them are worthy of a number three pick. Two you would have done. Two I would have done because then you get Zach Wilson, who's number one in my opinion. So yes, I would have done that for sure.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, and that's the situation we're in. So I guess I'd say in Kellen Mahn, keep the picks. Go from there.


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[Assistant] We were, Justin Fields was getting disrespected.


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[Assistant] To where you had people going like, this is a little crazy. To now it's truly switched over to Mac Jones to where you go, it's getting a little crazy here. Like, I mean, it's disrespectful the way both guys have been talked about a little bit. And what I don't understand is the people who were defending Justin Fields going,


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[Assistant] You don't say this about these players. They're going and doing that to Mac Jones. And I want to go, do you realize you're being a hypocrite a little bit? I don't, I don't understand that. Here's the other thing that just drives me crazy about the conversation too. Like, I know very few people


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[Assistant] In the NFL community who don't think Mac Jones is better than Tua.


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[Assistant] Right, like almost everybody I know, except for maybe one or two guys that I've talked to in NFL circles,


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[Assistant] Who all are like, oh, Mac Jones is, I mean, much better than Tua. I mean the Alabama receivers are trying to tell you that.


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[Assistant] But the public and media just do not want to buy into it. They don't. No matter how much people who really know talk about it, or the rumors they hear from coaches and organizations of what Mac Jones is and all that, it's just, I don't, that's what I don't understand.


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[Assistant] Right, well, you know, you know, Tula got there first. It's going to be hard to supplant anybody at Alabama. They're not going to lose, you know. It doesn't matter who you put in at quarterback. You know, Jalen Hurts only lost what, twice?


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[Assistant] I think when he was there his two years. So, uh, yeah, I guess that's, that bothers me about the conversation a little bit there to where everybody is telling you.


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[Assistant] That he's better than Tua, but no one wants to accept the fact that he could get drafted right in the range of Tua. I don't understand that.


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[Assistant] I feel like it's more of a ski- It's definitely not a mechanics or anything like that. I mean, his arm is, it's an elite. I mean, we can ask dad.


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[Assistant] I mean, if you're just going to ask me about the natural throwers of the draft, the most natural throwers of the draft, that's Wilson, Lawrence, Mack Jones, and Kellen Mott. They're the most natural, they can pick up any object, and I know they're going to throw it at a high level. Rocks, skipping it across the water, baseball, nerf ball, whatever, they can throw it. No, their offense, more times than not,


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[Assistant] You know, college football doesn't throw outside the numbers a ton, whether it's go routes or something like that. You don't see out routes and comebacks and all that. Their offense, more or not, was down the field, I mean, down the middle of the field.


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[Assistant] And listen, I have no questions about his ability to throw outside the numbers.


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[Assistant] You know, just from the throws I've seen, you know, and a lot of those throws out of the number were corner routes where you gotta put it in a safe spot, stuff like that. They didn't have a receiver that you go, hey, it's one-on-one outside, throw to him. You know, like some of the other teams did. I mean, you know, just about all the other quarterbacks had that option where like, oh, it's one-on-one.


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[Assistant] I'm going to him, no matter what. Slant route, go route, out route, whatever. I'm going to him. So, there's that aspect. But you know too, just to answer the question a little bit about, you know, his mechanics are really good, other than being a hair stiff. But he makes so many big time power throws down the middle.


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[Assistant] You know, that's the thing I would tell you. Whether it's off the back foot or in perfect positions.


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[Assistant] Post, deep in cuts, crossing routes.


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[Assistant] He puts him on the money, and he can really drive it with like some serious pace. So, uh, that's, that's why I like Kiliman, and I'm not worried about all that, no.


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[Assistant] I agree. He might be a sleeper, he might be somebody that goes even day two late in the, you know. He's, uh,


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[Assistant] First off, our man there, 101.1, I mean he's right, he says a lot of things. I think the thing I would say about Davis Mills is, you know, he's polished.


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[Assistant] Stanford quarterback, excuse me, number 15. He's polished an NFL ready, right? That's the thing I'd say. He can execute an NFL offense. That's what he's been doing to our question, to our questioner's point. He is very accurate. He's got good timing and feel really knows how to play the position, right? Along with some good size.


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[Assistant] I mean, you know who my six off the board are first. I think he's a good chance he's seven. That would be what I would say. And he teeters on...


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[Assistant] To me, a guy that maybe could be an NFL starter.


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[Assistant] Well, who says? That's where we all go. We gotta get, like, stop with these proclamations. Like, that's, and I'm not trying to be, you know, be mean to our questions here.


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[Assistant] You know, like I said, I see guys that are, that are hosting TV shows.


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[Assistant] They're, they're making draft analysis. I don't know. I'd do this and I would do this. Really? Did you watch film on them? No, but okay. Now you're gonna say it and influence all these people.


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[Assistant] Who are going to be like, well, this guy said that. No, but he doesn't know shit, people. I don't know what else to tell you. Sorry. He's just a fan that gets paid a lot of money to talk into a mic. I mean, so there's too much of that that goes on in this. You know, I'm not, you know, I was told, oh, it's a beautiful draft class. Blake Bortles, Teddy Bridgewater.


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[Assistant] Johnny Manziel. It's beautiful. They're gonna go one, two, three off the board. That's what everybody was saying. It's beautiful. It's a special class.


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[Assistant] Special what? Special piece of shit, class. Like get out of here with that. We don't know yet. And quarterbacks are coming out on a yearly basis right now. We see a few special ones every year.


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[Assistant] I'm sure, so we see, so you're saying, you're making my point for me. I'm making your point, yeaah. You see, we're seeing talented guys every year. Quarterbacks shoot up every year. Listen, if you're sold on Justin Fields at 7 and you really think he's the guy in the franchise, then go for it, of course, of course. But don't take it, don't go with it just because.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure when we're going to be in this position again. I don't know if we're going to ever have a class like this ever again. The class will probably be close to this next year. It's the most popular sport in our country. Everybody wants to play quarterback. Everybody. So that's where I would just say, let's be careful too. And you know, the other thing just with the Lions, which is interesting,


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[Assistant] I mean the Jared golf thing, which in a lot of ways is like,


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[Assistant] I don't know, it has an Osweiler feel, right? Like, we're getting rid of you, so, you know, and they're taking on the money to take the pics and all that too.


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[Assistant] But man, they're tied to Jared Goff in a way too, to a degree as far as contract wise.


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[Assistant] At least another year, hold on, I'm gonna pull it up right now because I really think legitimately it's closer to two years. Like next year is a giant hit.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, no, but you're, you're making your, I mean, we saw a team go to the Super Bowl with Jared Goff.


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[Assistant] I mean, we saw, we saw the 49ers go to the Super Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo. You don't need the top five guy. You're right. And that's where I would just be a little wary of like a team that, man, they need a lot of things. Dead money if they got rid of them after this season. $40 million dead money.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's a lot. I mean, that's your whole offensive line. I mean, it's all of them.


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[Assistant] So, I mean, that to me, the Lions are very intriguing. I think a lot of teams, or a lot of people think, you know, I think it's because of the Chris Spielman, the Ohio State connection. They think he's gonna like Justin Fields. I'm intrigued by it. I don't know what to say there. I guess I'm saying though, I'd be surprised if they went quarterback at seven. You can always...


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[Assistant] You don't know how the draft's gonna shake out next year. I mean, I don't expect the Lions to be in the playoffs in 2021.


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[Assistant] Look at him, shots fired. I see Phil Simms starting lineup figure right over your left shoulder.


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[Assistant] You're in the, so dad, so everybody out there just to look into the Sims household here, he's in the room right next to his bedroom, a little office, and dad and mom are redoing the kitchen right now. Okay. So things have been moved around the house a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you like, uhm, the, I mean, the Sam Darnold, right? In that Joe Burrow, Joe Brady offense, right? I mean, that seems to make sense and fit there, right?


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[Assistant] Oh, it was Colin Cowherd, I think. I think it was Colin Cowherd.


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[Assistant] No, no, but you're right, I kind of just was saying the same exact thing a little bit, you know, because we were talking about Justin Fields a little, and I said the same thing.


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[Assistant] It's not that he's falling and we still don't know where he's gonna go, but the important evaluators, you know, the coaches, the front office people who have really dug in here the last month,


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[Assistant] Yeah, they've started to talk to people and you start to hear now. We're finding out. We're finding out. Exactly right. It's not like, oh, it's not like, like some great GM was like, man, I got fields at four. Okay, awesome. And then he just went in like two weeks ago and he was like, man,


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[Assistant] Uh, the clicker, he's falling. He's falling for me, guys. I mean, it's not, no.


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[Assistant] Well, let me ask dad this real quick, cause you hit on Carolina, and I'm just curious, cause to me, I feel like this is a little crazy, but I keep seeing this. Like people still think there's a chance that Carolina Panthers might draft a quarterback.


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[Assistant] At pick number eight. Like, do you think that's logical at this point?


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[Assistant] Right, yeaah, it just, it's one that I keep seeing that it doesn't make sense to me. Why did you trade away picks to get Sam Darnold? I mean, you could have just traded up a few picks and maybe one other pick that you left, you know, didn't trade to the Jets.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree. Carolina would be one of those teams that I would like put a little star next to going into the 21, you know, 2021 season to say watch out for them. And dad said it right.


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[Assistant] You know, I mean we know the receivers, they're special. You got the running back McCaffrey. Alright, now you got the quarterback. They got a franchise right tackle. They got a left tackle they drafted in the second round two years ago in Greg Little. You know, defensive line, they got Brian Burns, who's their best sack


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[Assistant] Their best pass rusher. The other D end is Yeeter Grossmatos from last year.


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[Assistant] You know, they got Derrick Brown picked number 7 from last year at D-Tackle. Hasan Reddick and Shaq Thompson now at Stand Up Linebacker.


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[Assistant] Really tough losses, you know. Yeaah. They were, they were there toe to toe with the Bucs in the first time they played them. They should have beat the Kansas City Chiefs and kind of blew that game if you remember. So I think they are on the up and up. They could be a sneaky playoff team for you, right? I think so. I do. I wouldn't be shocked.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right. Like we just, we just actually hit on that too. Like the Saints did the last two years. I'm not sure if Josh Rosen or, or, uh, what's his name? The backup from the Eagles, uh, that played in week 17.


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[Assistant] Sun fell. They signed him. I don't know if he's the answer for backup quarter. I think dad's exactly right. First off,


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[Assistant] Like, Mac Jones, if it's him, it's no, I mean, he's ready right now. You're playing him. But I would say the same thing off of what dad said right there to go, and maybe I've adjusted my thought here a little too, just go, even if it's Trey Lance or Justin Fields, right, where there's some polish missing in their pass game, the hell with it. Go all in on it. Go.


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[Assistant] Go full Shanahan RG3 mode, right? He had no problem figuring out an offense end.


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[Assistant] He'll figure out ways to like what dad's saying. Well they'll trick it up in the run game and make you really defend that.


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[Assistant] To give some easy pass looks to let the quarterback grow. So I'm with dad there. Jimmy G confuses the situation, causes more criticism, gives the fans more, ooh this, what if you did that and all that kind of crap to where if you dropped the quarterback at three, which they're gonna, you gotta get rid of Jimmy G.


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[Assistant] He's a machine. It's not like, it's not powerful and oh wow, look at that bread far laser and things like that.


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[Assistant] But it's always the right trajectory, the right throw, and if he's gotta put a little elbow grease on it, you know, he can put a little steam on it. Yeaah, it's not the most powerful arm, but...


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[Assistant] You know, his aggressive downfield throwing, I think that was one of the things that jumped out to me and dad first off. That's why you've heard me talk about the offense was different this year with Mac Jones as compared to Tua because of his ability to aggressively throw the ball accurately down the field. I think that jumped out to both of us too, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I got you. Alright, one last thing, cause he's gotta go. Okay. Be quick, I know you gotta go. Alright, uhm.


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[Assistant] I love Kellen Mond, you know that. I think you like Kellen Mond. Just in your assessment of all the big guys we talk about, like where does he fit in for you? I don't think I've ever really asked you that or talked to you about this.


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[Assistant] There's, there's different narratives for different guys that, you know, it's okay to use it for this guy, but not okay for that guy. Again, it's just, it's the greatest psychology.


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[Assistant] Like study, I think in America right now. Is draft and quarterback talk.


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[Assistant] Draft and quarterback talk will really let you into know people's minds and like, what is your logic behind that thought sometimes? So, interesting.


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[Assistant] He's done the work. I thought he was lying to me. I'm not even gonna lie. Like, cause it was like...


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[Assistant] He told me once, he was like, oh, I watched all the quarterbacks, all their throws. And then like five days later, he called me and he was like, you know, I'm watching blah blah. And I want to be like, didn't you just tell me you watched all these throws?


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[Assistant] Somebody can do a little bit of both. That's the beauty of the tight end position is you hope you can get that guy there that can be like that mismatch nightmare that we've talked about with so many of the great tight ends or teams that have two tight end sets, right? To do that because it's that bind of, oh wait,


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[Assistant] Wait, he split out? Okay, wait, what are we going to do coverage wise? And then the next play it's like, oh wait, he's next to the, you know, the tackle with his hand in the ground. Whoa, he's big. We have to have a different thought here. He blocks pretty good. You know, that's the beauty of the tight end position. It really puts defenses in a bind as far as


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[Assistant] You know, a course has special pass game talents. And, you know, I think that wins out on everything right now.


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[Assistant] And then along with that, you want to just go, okay, wait, he's special in the pass game?


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[Assistant] Okay, can he block? Doesn't have to be like Gronk and the best blocking tight end in the history of football, but can he block to where when we do put him at the end of the line of scrimmage, that team's got to respect it. And we are a true running threat. And it's not just a guy we're putting there that's like a tight end by position, but


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[Assistant] We have to come up with some scheme to protect him because he can't really block the defense end. We gotta have somebody else there to double him, right? I'm not looking for those type of guys. So I guess that's what I'm trying to look for. A mixture of both. And some swing more heavy on the pass side.


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[Assistant] Some swing more heavy on the run side and have a little pass value. You just gotta find out the ones you like and who you think has the best chance to be talented.


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[Assistant] No, he's like just a, he's a get it done. This is what coach said I had to do. Coach told me not to let this guy make the tackle.


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[Assistant] So I'll not let him make the tackle. But yea, he's gonna miss some blocks, he's not gonna physically dominate people that way. You know, he's what I would call a get-her-done blocker, where it's like he doesn't blow you out of the way, but he shielded you off to where you didn't make the tackle, right?


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[Assistant] I mean, he really does. He's, he's up there with the center and the quarterback as far as probably having to know the most stuff on the offense. Cause, oh wait, you know, they're keeping me in the block and pass protect.


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[Assistant] What are they talking about? What is the tackle next to me telling me? What? Huh? What is that word? Oh wait, now it's a running play.


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[Assistant] Wait, we're, you know, we're gonna trolley to the Mike Backer. He's gotta learn all that aspect, right? So he's gotta do that. Whoa, the pass game is way more diverse and has more rules than what I did in college. In college, they just told me to run down the middle of the split safeties. And if it was one safety,


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[Assistant] I think it's blocking a whole different breed of person when it does come to the run game and the pass game and everything like that and the way they're covered and all of that. So I think it is a position that, you know, there's an adjustment period physically and mentally when you get to the NFL.


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[Assistant] It's, well, it's crazy. It just doesn't seem like there's been a ton of talent at the position the last few years. We've kind of, I've kind of missed out on it that way. I don't know if, you know, this group, these last few classes decide to play power forward in the NBA or what. But it just has not been a real, real deep class the last few years. And you know, added to that too.


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[Assistant] Would like the question you asked about the tight ends and the adjustment period too. You know, I think the Bears and Colt Comet, there's another side to that that I probably should have said. The coaches having to adjust to think about, hey, let's get the tight end involved. Like that's not always a normal thing too. When you don't have a talented tight end, you don't really think about


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[Assistant] Calling plays or designing anything. And then you get a guy like a coal comment and now, okay, we've


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[Assistant] Seein' him practice, seein' a few games, oh wait, he does have something to him, wait, hey, hey, let's go in there and design a few plays for him and start to figure out how we can use him a little bit better.


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[Assistant] There's a adjustment period, I think, for the offensive side of the ball, too, how to work that out and figure out how to use them.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, okay, 60s is not gonna be Johnny Mackey, cause he's 50s, so I'm gonna say it's Mike Dicka.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, that's what's crazy about it. Exactly right. I know, that really is.


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[Assistant] Listen, this, this was one of those is I'm just cracking my way down the list, right, with these tight ends and constantly, constantly, and I'm starting to go, okay, we're getting into like kind of Averageville here, right? And I got to Briley Moore and I just went, whoa, this guy's got something to him.


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[Assistant] You know, really, I thought out of the tight ends I walked, I thought his blocking was special. You know, not only just like, you know, I take special in one-on-one blocking, being able to block the ends or linebackers at the end of the line of scrimmage. You know, your ability to work with your teammate.


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[Assistant] You know, next to you, your cackle, hey, we're gonna double team this guy, then I need you to go up and get the linebacker, right, the titan. He does all that stuff really, really good. And really, you know, as far as just the blocking was concerned, I thought that


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[Assistant] It was up there with really who I would thought would say is the top blocker who just misses the top five for me in this is Hunter Long, the Boston College tight end, right? Give him a little shout out. He's good. He's got potential. There's no doubt about that. I didn't love everything he brought in the past game. I think he'd do more than that, but I thought that these two guys were the best like


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[Assistant] End the line, tight end blockers, right? Where they can block big people, they can block smaller, fast people, do all that stuff too.


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[Assistant] You know, even though this kid has a little bit of the traditional tight end look and I think he's about 6'4, 245, 250, all of that. Man, the thing that jumped out to me more than anything was just, you know,


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[Assistant] The way he plucks the ball out of the air, but then, you know, with the ball in his hand.


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[Assistant] He was special. You know, he was a good route runner, got good feet, hips to like, you know, disconnect the upper body, the lower body, to throw DBs off and do that. And then had something to him after the catch. I mean, he was a real legit yards after catch tight end. Reminded me of Mark Andrews.


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[Assistant] Had a similar body type, right? The way he runs and plays, that's really, I thought, like what he was. You know, I said he's got the ability to be a traditional why? Because he's such a good physical blocker, always got his feet underneath him, everything of that. But because of the way he moves and runs route,


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[Assistant] I think you can flank him out a little bit. You could put him in the slot. Extend him from the line of scrimmage a little bit. Great natural hands. Like I said, rips it out of the air. I thought he and pits.


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[Assistant] Had the two, the two best hands out of all the tight ends I watched. Wow. You know, and I'm big again. Tight ends, you gotta have great hands. You got to. Think about it, your life is over the middle.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's a lot of, catch the ball, boom, uh, catch the ball, pow, boom, pow.


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[Assistant] You can't be basket catching balls, you gotta go and tack it, rip it with your hands and think, I'm probably gonna get hit here, hard, and it's gonna knock the wind out of me. And you know, that I thought was really, really good, but phenomenal blocker.


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[Assistant] I mean, I would think so. And then you can move the way he does. And you know, listen, at Kansas State, the way they're playing football right now, right? They're not Big 12.


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[Assistant] They play like, they actually tackle and try to block people. Like it's fun to watch. So he played real tight end. It wasn't like big 12 tight end and I really play receiver but I'm in a tight end's body.


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[Assistant] So you really got to see that. You know, you get to see everything you need to see as far as an NFL tight end is concerned. He was a surprise to me, and like I said, he just edged out Hunter Long, who I liked in a lot of ways.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I think the way this guy moves in the pass game, you know, the way he runs routes, all that type of stuff, I found to be rather impressive.


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[Assistant] That's good to see. I'm glad to see, you see, I'm glad to see. Well, you know, uhm,


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[Assistant] With, with. Short arms though. Again, I'm not always into like, these don't always mean something, but they can tell you stuff. Right? And when I do look at like. How is his weight that low?


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[Assistant] Yeah, he must, well, tight ends, I mean, for the most part, I think are going to be the majority around 245 above or something like that. Unless it is, is it compared to...


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[Assistant] Just other tight ends, right? You know, 240, I was surprised to hear that he was 240. That seemed a little low to me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but you know the thing that people will like, the vertical jump, the broad jump, those type of things, there is something there to be said about how you get out of the blocks, right? Out of your hand on the ground, that's a translatable exercise of that. I think the other thing that does to you too is, like I'm not surprised to see that because


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[Assistant] The blocking, that's a huge blocking number too. You know, you're thinking about blocking, it's getting squatting position and then exploding those hips up, just like a vertical jump. So if you can be explosive jumping, you'll be explosive on contact rolling those hips through too, to block people.


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[Assistant] Got some really special things about his game. I mean, really athletic, looking tight end. You know...


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[Assistant] It's, it's a little bit of a made up size, that's what I will say. I think he's a guy that's probably smaller, who's worked out really hard to be, I don't know what he weighed in as pro-dated, probably 245-ish somewhere in that area, right? You know?


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[Assistant] Okay, 247, wow, it's a little bigger than I thought there. Uhm, only 2 pounds. But, but, but, yeaah, you're right, it doesn't really matter. But, but, uhm, I think what I see from him more than anything, I think the thing that jumps out is just pure rawness, but pure physical ability, especially like,


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[Assistant] With the ball in his hands again, or to stretch the field as a pass receiver at the tight end position. You know, uh, other than, again, you know, Kyle Pitts, who's gonna be the top guy, shocker, okay, everybody knows that, it's not really like, oh no, I let it out, everybody that says it's gonna be a top five pick is a top five pick.


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[Assistant] But I thought like, his ability with the ball in his hand.


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[Assistant] And his ability to stretch the field, only one that's, you know, better than him is Kyle Pitts in this class as far as that is concerned. So that's where he's special. Now the big thing too is, is he a real tight end? You know, I don't know if he's a traditional why.


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[Assistant] You know, and again, really, really briley more right after those last guys should have brought this up too.


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[Assistant] You know, yea, I think they can do some traditional Y. They might be really in the perfect world. More of the second tight end. The H back tight end.


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[Assistant] Whatever, the tight end that's in on more of the passing situations. Yeah, we'll run the ball, but he's also, you know, we really want him in here for the pass game. You know, I think that's the big thing here too. You know, but yes, the run blocking and all of that, it's not as crisp as you would like for, you know,


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[Assistant] A guy that, I'm not gonna lie, last year when I was doing Notre Dame games in the 2019 season, I saw a lot of Miami crossover. I kept going, man, this kid here looks like he's gonna be a first round pick.


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[Assistant] Like he looks special, and he has some special things about his movement. But, you know, I do think...


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[Assistant] Route running is raw. He kinda just does it with his pure ability. His blocking is less than for what he is as an athlete and everything.


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[Assistant] You know, just can fall off blocks too easy, falls on the ground, loses his balance too much. You know, stuff like that to where he's just not dependable or consistent in those areas quite yet as compared to, you know, some of the top guys we're gonna talk about here.


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[Assistant] He is man, that's why I talk about the yards after catch.


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[Assistant] And again, this is another thing where you have to piece together what he is a little bit.


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[Assistant] And maybe I'm a little low in my ranking here. But like, to that point, and I'm sorry to interject, but like, got the ball in his hands, he makes all these great moves and these sharp cuts. But yet when he runs routes, he doesn't do it.


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[Assistant] You know, so the, the ability is there, what is missing to why he's not doing it? I don't know if he hasn't been coached right, or if he just doesn't give a shit, whatever it is, I don't know, but that just doesn't quite match up quite yet.


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[Assistant] I think that's exactly what we're, we're kind of looking at here is that type of player. You know, I think it's like year two, watch out. He could be something special in the NFL, you know, as that second tight end or your premier, you know, pass down tight end.


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[Assistant] Ability to catch the ball, get up field, uhm, is pretty special. You know, the, the acceleration off the ball at the line of scrimmage, you know, I thought that was pretty special too. Uhm, he's a little clunky.


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[Assistant] As far as, like I said, the route running, or even adjusting to the ball sometimes, where I'm just like,


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[Assistant] Man, they, why do you look so much more athletic with the ball in your hand than you do when you're kind of adjusting to the ball without it in your hand quite yet? So there's some of that. Uhm, but there is some elite traits about this player. It's just, you know, there's some things on there too. You could just go,


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[Assistant] Hey, I'd like to know this guy. Is he willing to work? Is he going to get better at blocking those type of things? That's where it'll become real important to as far as where he gets drafted overall, but high end talent, some question marks, but I would not be shocked like in two or three years or three years. We're going, this is one of the better past catching tight ends in football.


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[Assistant] Tommy Tremble, that's right. I mean, yeaah, I've had an inside look at Tommy Tremble. You know, that's where...


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[Assistant] There's not a lot of production here for Tommy Tremble. Correct. They don't feature him a lot in the past game. He did not have a lot of career catches.


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[Assistant] I get that. And listen, I think, listen, that's a question. I don't know what the deal is with that. That's gonna be, teams are gonna have to do their due diligence there. There's no doubt. No, I can also say watching on like film too.


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[Assistant] He's open more than he should, than he gets the ball. And then there's, there's, you know, a few other people to blame because of that.


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[Assistant] Also, I think too, with lack of product, you know, I do think at times, like,


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[Assistant] Screwed him over in the production department. You know? Hey!


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[Assistant] Wait. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Oh, wait. Alright, wait. So we want to get these guys on the field. Well, we can't put the guy, the freshman, the traditional tight end at slot receiver or fullback and move him around.


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[Assistant] So we'll let him be the traditional type. Alright, so we'll screw over Tommy Tremble and make him the fullback and go in motion. And he has to do all the other stuff. So that can hurt the production too, to a degree. But the big thing is this.


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[Assistant] And I've seen it in person. First off, the athlete and the specimen is real. He's got twitch, he's got really good power for somebody in the mid 240s as far as like just one-on-one mono-e-mono blocking, but his speed is real and


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[Assistant] Like, tries to knock your head off. It is violent.


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[Assistant] Gloves contact. This is the most violent blocker in the draft. I mean, as far as the tight ends are concerned.


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[Assistant] But can block people bigger than them, block people in space, put them in motion, let them lead the tail back in a toss sweep.


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[Assistant] He's amazing at doing all that stuff. You know, is he a traditional wide tight end? No. I think he's, you're truly, you're, you're off the ball tight end, you're H back type of guy. He's in the slot sometimes. He's at fullback sometimes. You don't know what we're going to be in. You're going to have to defend a lot of different schemes with him on the field.


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[Assistant] I've had a first hand look at both of these guys. I was working at New England when use check was at Harvard. I was there at his pro day. I was one of the main guys that kind of set up that work that day. There is a lot of similarities. There's no doubt about that. Listen, I'll go as far as like


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[Assistant] Tommy Tremble could be used check. I mean listen, Tommy Tremble could end up being George Kittle.


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[Assistant] You know, George Kittle was a fourth round pick who weighed what, 243 pounds coming out? And I don't know if anyone looked at him and said he's a traditional tight end. Without a doubt. No? This guy...


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[Assistant] Blocks like Kittle. Likes physicality like Kittle. And...


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[Assistant] The speed and the ability to get open downfield, it's all there. Now I don't know if there's off the field stuff or whatever else there that led to them not being the focus of the offense more. I don't have the answers to that.


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[Assistant] He's right, Wade. You're right. I'm with you. I wouldn't be shocked if this guy could, you know, can be that at some point.


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[Assistant] I'm George Cowen. Right, well we'd have to see the film to see if you could actually get up and do stuff like that. But he's an interesting specimen. He is. And he's a little bit, you know...


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[Assistant] Of a, a little bit of a, let's say a potential guy, where you're looking at to go, wait, I think if...


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[Assistant] You know, in the NFL, where they know how to use tight ends a little bit more, and, you know, he'll be coached a little more closely and watched that way, that he could be something. But man, the way he blocks the physicality is unreal.


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[Assistant] You know, I would have a hard time thinking the kid is not somewhere towards the end of the second, mid-third round, doesn't go past that. Uhm, but you don't get to see a lot of different route running. There's not a lot of different intricate routes and anything like that.


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[Assistant] Uh, so, I, you know, that's gonna be the big question going forward. But a Swiss Army knife who can really do anything and is a tough football player.


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[Assistant] No, he's not. Let's settle down with that. When you're called Baby Gronk, you have to be just a pure, like, just beast of a human being, and I mean that more in the physicality, you know, way. And off the field.


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[Assistant] Right. You gotta really have it all. Maybe this guy has that, and if you do, don't show it until after you get drafted, alright? It might hurt your stock. But...


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[Assistant] Yeah, here's a guy, he's this guy's NFL ready right now. You know, I look at him to just go, this is kind of Hunter Henry, right? Hunter Henry for the Chargers now on the Patriots, right? Second round pick. To me, this is that the same type of guy. Really good in the pass game. You're going to be able to split him out and the way he can move his feet.


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[Assistant] You know, in short areas, uh, stick his foot in the ground, come out of breaks, and really accelerate and do that. You know, he's got a real pass game, you know, element in. He's gonna be able to run some intricate routes like Travis Kelce does for the Chiefs, where it's like, he's running across the field, oh wait, he stopped, and now he's going back out the other way. He's gonna do all of that.


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[Assistant] You know, he was really, I thought a pretty special route runner. Blocking wise...


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[Assistant] Good. This is why he's not baby gromp. It's good, but he's more of a like, I got my assignment done blocking, I didn't just absolutely maul you and destroy you.


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[Assistant] And there's nothing wrong with that. I got no issue with that. I don't give a damn. You know, I really don't. You know, but I think, you know, overall, there's not a lot of weakness or things to not like about the guy. You know, I think he's NFL ready, like I said, and you're gonna be able to do some different things with him in the pass game.


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[Assistant] You know, I wish he would play bigger, right? For as good as he moves and things like that, like, you know, that, that, that's one of the, doesn't play as big as his size, run blocking, or as a pass receiver with 50-50 balls, like, right? Don't get to see a ton of that where you're just like,


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[Assistant] Wait, the way this guy moves in that, why don't they just split him out and let him like dominate linebackers, do stuff like that more. So, you know, I wish you got to see more of that, but.


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[Assistant] The feet at the line of scrimmage, and his feet is a route runner and ability to burst and all that thing, is by far the best thing he does. So he's got everything you want as a tight end. Like I said, I wish he was a little more physically dominating.


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[Assistant] But it was nothing to be concerned about. And I think that's also one of those things too, where, you know, again, NFL...


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[Assistant] You get around a lot of, you know, alpha males and your coach is yelling at you a little bit more. Sometimes that makes young kids into men, for lack of a better way to say it.


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[Assistant] So where you find that physicality or aggressiveness or 50-50, I'm gonna attack it and it's gonna be 70-30, that type of stuff, he could get a little bit better at that, no doubt about that. Uhm, but, I think it's a really good tight end altogether and somebody's gonna be happy there in the mid-second to get him.


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[Assistant] What if like LeBron and Michael come out in two drafts in a row? Sometimes that happens.


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[Assistant] I'm just like, cause again, I didn't even think about this, I'm just going like off the top of my head here.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean, the guy Hawkinson was really awesome coming out. He was a top 10 pick. He was a top 10 pick.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a gap between this guy and Hawkinson, right? And that's no disrespect, I really like TJ Hawkinson and what he can do. But like, I don't recall seeing a titan like this. I don't. This is a different animal in every way. You know, whether it's, you know, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, Eric E. Braun, it's none of that. It's none of that. This is...


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[Assistant] First off, we know he's elite in the pass game, right? So the first thing I wanted to do was go, wait, is this just elite pass game and I don't block anybody? No, no, no, the guy blocks. Guy blocks, he wants to block, he's tough.


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[Assistant] You know, he has a nasty part of him. You know, is he the most perfect blocker in the world? No, he's not like, the best I've ever seen, but it's damn good. It's better than any pass catching titan I can remember this way. So, that's awesome and you get to see it against some really quality players in the SEC. But like,


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[Assistant] I think the first thing that jumps off to me is the body control.


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[Assistant] He is a true nightmare. You know, whether it's guys like...


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[Assistant] You know, my man Tyson Campbell, or Patrick Surtain, who are two of my three top corners in the draft, mono-e-mono, all over him, doesn't matter, touchdown, Kyle Pitts, he just


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[Assistant] Got such great body control, the arm length.


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[Assistant] The ability to adjust his body with the ball. Oh, I need to go down. I need to contort my body this way. Oh, I need to jump up and pluck it out of there. It can do it all. So that's the first thing you just go, man, even when he covered, it's like a slam dunk completion. That's amazing. Let alone runs routes like a wide receiver.


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[Assistant] Let alone I've never seen a guy this big catch balls.


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[Assistant] Keep all, kind of, on him, and pull away the way he does. Like pull away from SECDBs where you're like, really?


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[Assistant] Like that guy was on him and he gave him one nudge with the shoulder and he just pulled away from him for a 50 yard touchdown. Like that's the crap you just go and go, okay, I get it. Now I know why everybody is going top 10 pick, top five pick, whatever it may be. There's really not like, it's pretty close to the perfect tight end.


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[Assistant] I mean, when you take him, I'm allowed to take blocking into account here and all this stuff, right?


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[Assistant] I like, cause you know I love fast receivers. Yes.


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[Assistant] I don't know though. I think if you have a tight end like this, he's number one of this group.


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[Assistant] He's number one of this group. Cause you're going to move him in and block a little bit. There's just going to be so many different things you can do. He's just, he's just.


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[Assistant] I think so. There's just, there's to me such a high ceiling and a high floor. I just don't see anything here to question at all.


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[Assistant] And at that position, you know, you can find ways to manipulate matchups through formations and things like that too. So, you know, yeah, I guess I'm saying is I would take, I would take him. I mean, you know,


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[Assistant] I wrote, here you go, I mean, you heard me say with the body control, yeah, Jude's a legit blocker.


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[Assistant] Ability to, the ability to catch the ball and reaccelerate is off the charts good.


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[Assistant] Like a top end wide receiver. I wrote maybe better. So I mean that, that, that says something. And then I wrote


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[Assistant] One of my last things I wrote, I mean, one on one. I said he's basically unstoppable. He can beat you with all his physical ability, the route running, the speed, you know, everything like that. But then the jump balls, like I told you already, he dom- I mean, dominates Amin. It's like dom-i-nation. They don't have a chance. And that's where I guess I give guys like this, you know,


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[Assistant] And the pass game ability is through the roof good. His run blocking ability is really good for a pass catching tight end. And he's a for sure thing top 10 pick.


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[Assistant] I would, that's a great question. I would say, I think he answered it. I think I would go receiver for that.


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[Assistant] You know, Gosecki is a legit pass catching tight end. He's a nightmare that way.


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[Assistant] I would try to go, again, Devonte Parker, who's had an injury history. I like Preston Williams, right? They're not game breakers. I think with that group of guys right there, I want one game breaker, and that's where I'm gonna go Devonte or Jamar Chase there. So that's what I would do.


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[Assistant] Still a pretty, pretty good group. I mean, even like, you know, Kyle Brady, it was a decent career. It didn't quite work out the way. Ricky Dudley had a very good career overall and was an amazing blocker.


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[Assistant] We know Vernon Davis was real good, had a great, Kellerman Wenzel had a chance to be special. I mean, of course he, the biggest thing he did was the, the wreck on the motorcycle, right? Where he tore his ACL. But that was a little bit like this guy we're just talking, where you'd go, wait,


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[Assistant] He can beast defense ends and then he can run routes like a receiver and do stuff like that. He was a pretty, pretty special talent.


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[Assistant] That's what I would do. If I'm Atlanta, that's where I would go. I would. I just, they have some young offensive linemen.


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[Assistant] You got Calvin Ridley and Julio. I would not go the quarterback at number four. Not, not in the year 2021 where quarterbacks are playing till 40 and they're playing really well. You got Matt Ryan. To me, you got two or three real good years left in them. Like real good. So I just, I wouldn't abandon that to just go.


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[Assistant] Wait, there's a quarterback who I think has a lot of talent, or has a lot of talent, and I think can be good in the league. But I got one right here that's really good and a franchise guy. And we can still win the Super Bowl with him.


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[Assistant] To me, I just wouldn't trade that in quite yet. I wouldn't. I would go with the Kyle Pitts and, uh, make that offense a handful to deal with and try to build the rest of their team.


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[Assistant] It'll put some teams in a bind, that's for sure, there's no doubt.


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[Assistant] So I think that yes, you got some guys that I like to listen to. I think Moore and Freermuth and, and Pitts, you know, guaranteed gonna have good careers. Jordan and Trimble. Hey, they got, they could be stars.


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[Assistant] But, okay, yeaah, there's a little bit of a lower floor with those guys too to talk about. Hunter Long, just to hit on him too with the outside, there's a lot to like. Reminded me a little bit of like Austin Hooper coming out of Stanford a few years ago.


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[Assistant] I wish he was a little better in the pass game, a little tougher catching the ball with people around him doing stuff like that. There was a lack of physical element in the pass game that I didn't like from Hunter Long.


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[Assistant] I think that's what bothered me about him more than blocking. He was really damn good. But, pass game...


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[Assistant] He did not play with, like, could not catch the ball in traffic and make some of those plays or do anything special that way. That's why I kind of made him just off the list here, but definitely want to give him a little credit.


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[Assistant] There's a few guys I'm, I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet. Like, there's a few guys, well there's a few guys like I wanna go back and watch again.


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[Assistant] Right, now I have to go to more than one position than he does, cause he just has to watch one. But, but, yes, like,


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[Assistant] Listen, I'm not, I'm no idiot here, and I always self-scout thyself, as you've heard me say. But, like, the mock draft community, all the people, they love Greg Newsome.


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[Assistant] From Northwestern and Calvin Joseph from Kentucky. To where it just like.


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[Assistant] I, it's unanimous their first round. Almost every mock draft I see it's first round. I just did not see it that way at all. So like, I'm gonna go back and watch it again to go, wait, did I miss something? Am I, am I wrong here?


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[Assistant] You know, so we'll see, I got a few of those guys where I just want to go back and watch one more time to feel a little bit better about it.


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[Assistant] No, the Bengal's interesting at 5, I expect Penesul. I do, again, I hold out the outside shot of them where I just go, would they reunite? Jamar Chase?


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[Assistant] And just say like the hell with it, we're gonna go with the air show here and see if you can match up with us. I mean, I don't know, I don't think it's crazy. Uhm, but I guess if I'm them with Sewell as good as he is, Joe Burrows knee hurt, all that, I'd probably go, you know, uh, tackle first, get a receiver at the top of the second round if you want to do that.


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[Assistant] What I would do. You know, this is like one where I'll ask you right now and any of the homies listening out there like, what should I do? Should I do the draft? Should I do my mock draft like that?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Pete says yes. He's not listening. He's feeding one of his kids a bottle. He's like, you guys have been going on for an hour and a half. He's like, shut up. Alright, well we did it. Hour and a half. Boom. Yes.


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[Assistant] Alright everybody, be good. Hope everybody enjoyed that. Tight ends. Ask me any questions. We're gonna continue the AMAs, everything like that. Yep. Thursday podcast this week. Gonna be a little different. We're gonna play our inner, the interviews I've done. With Diami Brown, Kellen Maughan.


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[Assistant] And Caleb Farley. That's gonna be the Thursday podcast. They're giving me a little time off.


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[Assistant] I'm interested in everything. Top 10, these quarterbacks, all of it, the COVID opt-outs. Uh, let's, let's continue to talk about it. Great questions. You the man. Thanks for driving the ship. Clap it off.


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[Assistant] You're right. It's a good thing he's not in New York right now because the team really hasn't changed and become something we think where they could really surprise people this year and all they would be doing all year long, all of us, probably me included, we would be hating on Sam Darnold. So man, what a good move for him.


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[Assistant] To be a franchise quarterback, a second chance. This is his second chance. He's got to make it work.


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[Assistant] Wow. New England, they're just not afraid. You know, they're not worried about what people think.


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[Assistant] But he called me and said, look, uhm, I just want to tell you why it's no disrespect to you or your son. And I said, well, don't worry about me.


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[Assistant] Okay, there's so many things that we could talk about here. One, the pre-draft talk about it.


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[Assistant] Okay, let's get into all that a little bit. Well, he's not athletic in this. Well, I'll tell you what, he looks a lot more athletic on the field than I expected him to. He moves in the pocket as well or as good as we see almost anybody in the league already doing. He can get rid of the ball so quick.


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[Assistant] That that surprised me too. I know I saw it in Alabama, but it even sticks out more in the NFL. Uh, his accuracy is unquestioned.


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[Assistant] Uh, his arm strength looks better in the NFL than I thought it would too. I think that was one thing that I've worried. I said about him. I like so much about him, but I worried about the arm strength and let's get into this guys. Remember he, he works the pocket and he makes plays that the other rookies are not going to make.


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[Assistant] And what are you trying to do on offense? Yeah, cam can run the ball and get you power runs, but could cam Newton get rid of the football and find guys as quick as Mac Jones can. And the answer is absolutely not. If you know anything about football that was truly evident during the, you know, the preseason. And the last thing is this when cam Newton, you know, couldn't practice those couple of days.


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[Assistant] And then they kept the final piece and the final preseason game. He just came out and did it again.


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[Assistant] Three things he does. I'm going to, of course we're going to talk about this on everything, but he threw receivers open. He threw receivers and protected them.


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[Assistant] And he was dead-eyed with the ones that were open. Right. And his movement in the pocket was not good, it was really good.


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[Assistant] I think he'll struggle some. There's no doubt. He's gonna struggle. I don't think the receiving core is one that you can go.


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[Assistant] Uh, panels and sports radio and all that. Come on. I mean, come on, come on, come on. We just went over this. How much do they really know? Get another quarterback and fire the coach. Okay, there we go. We covered it.


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[Assistant] When Tom Brady was a rookie, they were assessing everything.


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[Assistant] I think he would fit better if he went to Atlanta. Yeaah. We see the way Tennessee played. I'm sure that's the way Atlanta wants to play. And Cam Newton would fit that. Play action.


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[Assistant] And, um, I think Seattle is just one of those teams. They're not stressing over who their backup quarterback is and where Russell Wilson's never really missed a stamp at that one year. I don't know how long ago it was where he hurt his foot or his ankle. Oh my God, he couldn't even walk and he played a couple of games and fought his way through it. So, um, it's hard to find the backup that's going to protect your football team in today's game.


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[Assistant] Once you lose your quality starter, it really is. Andy Dalton did a really good job last year in Dallas, but still they went what, six and 10?


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[Assistant] Disaster going across there going who's in front of me. Right. We just talked about that with Mac Jones. See in front, throw the ball corner. They make this receiver feel comfortable. And what he has to do is slow the arm down, speed the body up. Now nobody's going to know what that means.


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[Assistant] I think Paul, you and Christopher understand it. He's just got to soften the arm and get more body into the throw. And that gives you more touch. You're not going to have great touch by going, Oh, let me flick it with my fingers.


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[Assistant] That's not always there. That's why you gotta go back to a big fundamental and when you move your body more, your arm slows down and it gives you better touch and you have a much better chance of throwing perfect spirals too.


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[Assistant] You know, that, that is, you know, that was a concern of mine coming into draft, just what the ball does in his hands as he throws it. And so far that's proven true.


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[Assistant] He's not going to be Mac Jones and doesn't want to be. And Mac Jones will never be Trey Lance, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] Because you realize one thing, controlling the football is everything. Right. Because when you really control the ball, you become smarter because you trust what you see.


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[Assistant] Oh, I don't know if he's open or not. I don't want to take that chance and you change your decision making and I see it with quarterbacks and I'm not going to name names. I will off the air.


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[Assistant] You know, Trey Lance has just got to manage what he's doing. I know they'll do a good job with him and look, he's going to play.


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[Assistant] And I would think they're going to find ways to get him even with that finger. He'll be in week one for nothing else just to come in and hand the ball off.


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[Assistant] I've done it with my son Matt more than me with many, many high school division one quarterbacks going.


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[Assistant] And still in high school are going to be division one quarterbacks and they spend, I just say this, here's what I always, here's my pitch. Do you want to throw it farther, harder and spin it better? Then all right, come see me, man. That's it. I don't know what else to say. And you know it to be true, Paul. And my son knows it to be true. And everybody, all you and your mechanic Sims. Hey, come on to be repetitive is the way you become great.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady works on his mechanics all the time. And you said it the other day, Christopher, I heard you go.


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[Assistant] Damn Tom Brady is throwing the ball as well and as hard as he's ever thrown in his career. And his mechanics are flawless.


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[Assistant] There were guys, I'll give Trent Dilfer credit on this. He actually said, for Tom Brady, for being such a great quarterback, I remember hearing him say,


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[Assistant] You gotta have certain mechanics and some of the things we're talking about.


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[Assistant] I say this and I've said it many times and I mean it to be true and it is true. When I was 55 years old, I was throwing one day with a group of kids and I warmed up before because back then I would throw and demonstrate and I was throwing the ball and I go, damn, I'm throwing the ball better now than I ever did in my career.


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[Assistant] I was saying, you know, I used to say a few curse words around Greg Gumbel when I was working with him. And I said, look, I'm not going to curse ever again. And so I started getting a Holy Gamole. And I'd say things like that. And Greg Gumbel after about three weeks says, I'll give you a thousand dollars. If you just started cursing to pay you to do it.


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[Assistant] I think we have two? Yea, we do have two. Okay, cool.


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[Assistant] Under Armour baby, we must protect this house. That's right, that's what we're doing these days. Let me tell you something, if you're gonna push a product, it's important to actually use a tagline that wasn't removed from the marketing strategy 15 years ago.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, that's that jerk Mike Floria. Who the hell cares what he says? He's not on this show. This is Chris Sims Unbuttoned, presented by Under Armour.


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[Assistant] The only way is through. That's right, we got rid of that 15 year old tagline and we're back in the-


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[Assistant] Yeaah baby, yeaah baby, that's right. You know, it was a little warmer than I expected today. A little. Yeah, I know. It's like 80 something and humid here today for some reason. We haven't had 80 something and humid the whole summer. And now it's the middle of September and we're gonna get it.


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[Assistant] You know, some wash needs to be done and some dry cleaning, right? I mean, come on, like, what the hell? So I'm a little behind in that clothes department. I'm mad at some people in my house for that, alright? You can narrow that down. Yeah, the narrow, the wife, the cleaning lady, those are their departments. They gotta get going there a little bit. Keep up with me.


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[Assistant] Same person or two separate people? No, two separate people. The wife does do a lot of cleaning too, so she's double duty. But yes, these are first world problems, no doubt about it, so I shouldn't be complaining. First world, first week?


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[Assistant] Uh, yes. My gosh. Amazing. Great, great day. Uh, you know, it's, it can almost be overwhelming at first. It is. Because we have all the games on and of course I want to be able to know all the important things and hey listen, I probably missed up.


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[Assistant] And that's why you gotta come back to the Wednesday podcast and we'll do deeper dives into, into some real X's and those things. But I think I got a good feel for all the games. Usually I am like a write a million notes about each game.


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[Assistant] I took a little different approach yesterday and I actually think I liked it better. What is it?


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[Assistant] You know, I've seen a ton of highlights, watched a little film of, of some certain plays and games too to have a feel that way. So I'm excited. Football, baby. Better than a diamond ring.


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[Assistant] Yes, right. Yeah, we got it all. We're gonna hit it all. I think there's like a little theme to hit on in just about every game we go through. And that's what at least I'm gonna give you where the thing that jumped out to me and we'll have some conversations about it.


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[Assistant] Definitely, so let's start it. Damn okay! Start that track! Trick! Damn!


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[Assistant] I really still feel like that's an Eminem song. Uh, there's a song that's kind of like that. I mean, I don't know if you want to start calling me B-Rabbit or anything like that, but, uh, it's the goodest rap I could do. Thank you for NBC making me sound good there.


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[Assistant] I don't feel any worse about that. I don't. After yesterday, I still feel good about putting Cleveland in the Super Bowl. I do too. They do. There's a lot of good things. You can see they give the Chiefs a lot of problems in a lot of ways.


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[Assistant] You know, hey, it's one thing to be as good as the Chiefs or we're shooting for them. It's another thing to actually beat them and conquer them. And Cleveland's still a young team as far as being battle tested that way. They kind of just found their way at the end of last year.


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[Assistant] Man, they post some problems. Here's one thing that always jumps out to me and this will continue to be a problem.


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[Assistant] Their ability to run the football and be so dominant upfront at the line of scrimmage takes away some of Steve Spagnolo's creativity on the back end. You know, he's famous for disguising this and wait, we took away the run game. Now we got him throwing the ball and now I have a million different coverages and disguises and you're going to be all screwed up.


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[Assistant] But he gets, that, he gets a little handcuffed in this matchup because


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[Assistant] Cleveland can run on anybody. I would be shocked if really any team all year really slows them down. But then what happened in the second half? Well, second half, I mean, listen, they shot themselves in the foot a few times, right? Yea, they got some Kansas City, went on some long drives, got it going together, you know, and I, you know,


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[Assistant] Again, I'd have to go back and watch the film of some of the specifics of why some of the drives didn't continue, uh, but I, I, I never really felt like...


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[Assistant] You know, again, even in the second half, I mean, they were up, what, 29-20? Late in the third quarter? Am I right about that? Is it somewhere in there? Hey, it's fourth quarter, you know. But yes, you know, you start off the first half with Mahomes.


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[Assistant] You know, catching on fire and going on a seven minute drive, right?


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[Assistant] And then they went, I can't remember exactly, maybe three and out or six and out. The Chiefs got the ball back again, got a field goal. And then, you know, uh, the Cleveland Browns answered back with a long drive themselves. But here, here's the thing to me, the number one banner statement.


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[Assistant] Cleveland Browns, this is where you drop the ball. Not on your offense, it's your defense. And here's the main reason. And anybody who watched my picks podcast with Florio, this was, this is the reason I picked the Chiefs. They had no plan for Tyree Kill in the playoff game last year. And they treated him like a normal pedestrian yesterday. It's the Chiefs everybody. Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey. There was no game plan. There was so many plays where I just saw Tyree Kill get to get in the slot and get free releases. Nobody jam him. No disruption of his route or any of that. No, hey, it's third and seven. Let's double Kelsey here and do something out of the side of the box of our defense.


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[Assistant] Cleveland is not good enough on defense yet to go, this is what we do, and we're just gonna do what we do. No, that's the 2013 Seahawks, the 2019 49ers. Okay, they can do that. Cleveland's not at that status yet, and that to me is where they drop the ball more than anything, Paul.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, listen, I have no problem with the three linebackers. They have, you know, they got some athletes at linebacker.


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[Assistant] So, I don't think it's necessarily worried about that, but you can't just go, again, that's what I'm talking about, exactly right. There's gotta be some, you gotta throw a curveball at the Chiefs every now and then. Like, I understand, hey, you got a base defense that's really good, you believe in this game, that's really cool. But if just, if it's play after play after play,


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[Assistant] Reid is gonna call the right play at some point. Mahomes is gonna check to the right thing at the line of scrimmage and then get them in the right play to where they're gonna burn that.


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[Assistant] You gotta do something outside the box just every now and then to go, Hey, we've been doing this. Hey, look, we're still doing it. We're still doing it. And then he says set hut and you go, Oh man, they dropped somebody out and they got somebody doubling Kelsey. And then they, you know, got a guy on top of them too. There was none of that. There has to be more game plan specific.


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[Assistant] Like stuff in their attack on the defensive side of the ball, especially to beat teams like the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] Wait, why is Tyreek Hill so on top of me right away? Nobody's disrupted him. And why is he the only guy on the best receiver in football as safety 50 yards down the field? See, so John, I mean, John Johnson, listen, yea, we'd like him to make the play better.


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[Assistant] That actual crappy throw and the ball being thrown behind him helped Hill in my homes. You know, he's trying to run to a spot. Hey, the ball was under thrown him behind. Hill gets to react quicker.


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[Assistant] Right? And Johnson, of course, is trying to like, give a hundred and five percent, a hundred and ten percent of his speed, because he knows he's not as fast as Tiberius Kill. The real problem there would be, no, why was he put in that position?