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[Assistant] I don't know, I've not seen your board here. I don't know who you're picking. I'm going to be surprised just like everybody else watching and listening. So I'm the curious fan who's realizing who you give to each team in the moment also. Okay. No, good.


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[Assistant] I know exactly what you're saying. And I have a feeling you're going to surprise me a few times. And also, one more thing, you've got some interviews coming up with some of these guys we're going to hear in the first round, uh, that we can see and hear throughout the week on NBC Sports YouTube channel.


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[Assistant] Did you tell Isaiah Simmons you're worried about where he's going to play in the draft?


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[Assistant] Alright Chris, 2020 mock drafts. Here we go. The Bengals at number one. What do you have?


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[Assistant] If he could have those two Peyton Manning qualities where pre-snap, he knew where he should go with the ball and then delivered it accurately a couple of seconds later. If he can do that or be even in the same atmosphere, that's a hell of a pick by the Bengals at one. Redskins can have anybody besides Joe Burrow at two.


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[Assistant] You're warming up, you're rolling, but no surprises yet. Burrow to the Bengals at one, Young to the Redskins at two. I have a feeling that you might go a little bit, veer off the path a little bit here with the Lions at three. It's a pick that needs to hit for Matt, Patricia and Bob Quinn, the GM.


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[Assistant] This is a nod to the fact that you're trying to get these right instead of just always playing GM because as we talked about, you like CJ Henderson better. So tell us a little more about that reasoning behind it. Why Okuda?


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[Assistant] Most analysts believe that offensive tackle would make the most sense for the Giants at four for the reasons you pointed out. Uh, the only su- I guess surprise here or thing worth delving into


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[Assistant] If you ask five GM's, they might have five different offensive tackles as their favorite guy. Give us a little more why you think he is better than the others who might show up as somebody else's number one pick.


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[Assistant] Four picks in, it's Burrow, quarterback to Cincinnati, Chase Young, edge rusher to the Redskins at two, Okuda, quarterback to the Lions at three, and Wills the offensive tackle from Alabama to the Giants at four. Okay, every pick matters, every pick is exciting if it's your team, but for this draft,


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[Assistant] This, this is for many people where it really begins. This quarterback turn at five and six, Dolphins five.


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[Assistant] We talked about the Dolphins at 26, Chris, but they also have pick number 18. Don't you think that, I mean, at 18, if they're following that logic, that they're not in love with Justin Herbert.


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[Assistant] It's our one chance to talk Justin Herbert here. He's such a big name in the draft. For those who will see that you gave him a five to the Dolphins and say, you can't take a quarterback that high with questions about anticipation and a diminutive leadership style. What's your response?


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[Assistant] For what it's worth, I take him over to a 10 times out of 10 as well. I like the same things you do, but it will be. It's an interesting conversation because it is funny. The question if you're on the other side. Okay, Justin Herbert at five to the Dolphins burrow, obviously at one to the Bengals quarterbacks still on the mind for the Chargers at six.


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[Assistant] What kind of team, what kind of team do you think they are with Tyrod Taylor?


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[Assistant] You do have Becton ranked ahead of Thomas in your top five back in the two.


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[Assistant] Either way makes sense. If you're going to help Kyler Murray and give him something besides DeAndre Hopkins, that's great. I would applaud that.


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[Assistant] I'm in love with this pic for all the reasons you mentioned, and I hadn't thought about the one that you just mentioned, Larry Fitzgerald. What a bonus. I mean, one, I'm thinking about on the field, you're opposite of DeAndre Hopkins. You're probably not getting the best cover guy or coverage rolled to you.


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[Assistant] this coming fall. Number nine, the Jaguars. And I mentioned that Bob Quinn, Matt Patricia, that combination Detroit really, really needs their pick to hit. Same thing can be said for the Jaguars with Doug Morrone and also Dave Caldwell. This is the first of two picks in the first round. They're back at number 20.


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[Assistant] You also had defensive tackle, Derrick Brown going number seven to the Panthers. And I listened to your podcast last week with Ahmed where he talked about this group. How close were you to having Kim Law as your number one defensive tackle?


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[Assistant] Okay, bringing us to the Cleveland Browns at 10 so far, two quarterbacks off the board, the Bengals at one to go Borough, Justin Herbert five to Miami, uh, two offensive tackles off the board, also to interior defensive linemen. Cleveland at 10, what do you think?


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[Assistant] We both love this wide receiver class. We can get a couple of starters in rounds two and three later in the draft.


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[Assistant] I like the pick and I like your response to the pushback, which is going to happen in every single room, especially with receiver and the depth in this class. Okay, Jets at 11. Interesting here because I have written down a wide receiver and offensive tackle. Uh, two at each position are already off the board.


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[Assistant] that they like for very good reason. So okay, Jets offensive tackle now three tackles off the board and kind of like receiver. It's going to be such a popular position in the first round. You wonder as we get into the teens and twenties if teams are really how much value do they have on the fifth or sixth best offensive lineman when they come to that pick is


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[Assistant] You're going to be facing that here in our draft and GM's are going to be facing that on Thursday night as well.


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[Assistant] Isn't that a wonderful question to ask of the prospects because they're so well coached in so many of the other areas and how to give the right answer. But if you ask somebody who's the best player you played against, they usually kind of sit up straight and want to talk about it. So I think you bring up a fun point there that I think a lot of GMs, they get a lot of mileage out of that question.


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[Assistant] They're selling tickets, so what's your confidence level though that they'll be winning games in the AFC South with Tua?


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[Assistant] If I gave you a small sheet of paper right now and a pen and said write down your two concerns and write them about Tua and its injury,


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[Assistant] And it's his ability to play at quarterback in the NFL. What shows up at number one?


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[Assistant] Bringing us to a team that all of a sudden has a lot of excitement and relevance. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 14, Tom Brady, a quarterback, Rob Gronkowski at tight end now with some other pretty good weapons there in the passing game. Before we talk about the pick, Chris,


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[Assistant] Where do you put Tampa Bay now in the NFC South considering the names they've added to that roster?


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[Assistant] And to make sure he could stay upright, I think offensive tackle would make a lot of sense. I should point out that three are already off the board.


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[Assistant] Next election belongs to the Denver Broncos at 15. If you just look at their record recently, Chris, they've been doing a lot more losing than winning. But if you boil it down to last December,


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[Assistant] They won four out of five and young offensive weapons led by Drew, Drew Locke. There's a lot of reason to be excited on that side of the ball about what they're doing. And I keep hearing they want a receiver at 15. What do you think is going to happen?


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[Assistant] I think you bring up some real good big picture points about the Broncos and their John Elway. They've had some tremendous years and some great stretches. It is three losing seasons in a row, so there's a little bit more sense of urgency right now than there has been.


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[Assistant] Why do you think Patrick Queen is better than Murray out of Oklahoma?


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[Assistant] I like the way you're connecting the dots there. Falcons at 16, and this could also be a position where best defensive player on their board is thick. No doubt about it. I mean,


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[Assistant] If you could go back and play against one defense the majority of the game, it's a three deep zone, right? I mean, every quarterback is like, yes, please.


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[Assistant] Offense, the number one need might be center. Uh, best players available at those positions because nobody off the board. Dallas at 17.


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[Assistant] I think some fans of the team would say, okay, would we rather have Minka Fitzpatrick at safety or Antoine Winfield? Did we come out on top there and basically that exchange in defensive back end? What do you think?


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[Assistant] And he would have gotten, uh, and he being Mike Mayock, an excellent report from Dabo Sweeney, an evaluator not named Mike Mayock told me that.


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[Assistant] That's what we like to do. I ask you enough questions about your picks. I can puff you up a little bit every now and then. At 20, the 49ers, and let's back up to the pick they did have at 13. You had Jacksonville training up to take quarterback to Atunga-Bailoa. So 49ers at 20, and keep in mind they also have the 31st pick here in this first round.


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[Assistant] Hey, think about defensive coordinators in the NFC West right now, because back at eight, he went CD Lamb to the Cardinals. I love that pick, adding him to the Andre Hopkins, and now Kyle Shanahan gets Henry Ruggs. I mean, life is different.


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[Assistant] Chrissy just made things a little bit uncomfortable for the decision makers for the Eagles because I believe they would desperately like a receiver with the 21st pick. But now three of them are off the board. They're up here at 21.


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[Assistant] Absolutely wore people out in the slot last year in the SEC. It's a nice picture thinking about him playing that same spot there in the NFC East. Vikings have two picks in the first round, Chris. The first one comes at 22.


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[Assistant] And you and I both know the kid and know the athlete very well. So we're fans of this pick, but most believe that you can get the best tight end of round two. Do you think this is a reach?


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[Assistant] Right, right. I think it's a, I think it would be a wonderful pick. I mean, this kid has barely scratched the surface, played baseball in the spring instead of full-time spring football. I had some injuries. So, uh, the best is in front of him, I believe. Saints at 24. A number of people want to connect the Saints with the quarterback. Once again, Jordan Love is still there.


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[Assistant] Bringing us to the Vikings, we just talked about them at 22. You had them filling a big time need at corner, Christian Fulton out of LSU. Uhm, I think they'd love to have a receiver at 25. How do you see it?


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[Assistant] You're like looking a little bit surprised because when we talked about him a couple weeks ago, I think he had him ranked fifth.


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[Assistant] And you liked him, but you didn't quite like him in the first round. Eponesa is still there. Lewis out of Alabama, who I sensed you'd like a whole lot. I was kind of thinking he would show up before 20. Why Gross Meadows ahead of those two?


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[Assistant] Dolphins, their third pick of the first round comes at 26. Chris gave him Justin Herbert at number five at 18. You went defense, your number one safety Antoine Winfield. So at 26 Miami up once again.


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[Assistant] Raven's at 28 here, Chris, and I'm curious here because most mocks, and it makes sense to me, gives him one of those top two inside linebackers, Murray or Queen. You've got them both gone, so how do you see this play now?


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[Assistant] I think his versatility goes even a step beyond what you talked about, playing the slot. They spent a lot of time, I think it was the LSU game. It looked like he was the starting Will linebacker, so. It is. Right?


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[Assistant] Packers at 30 here, Chris. Before I get you to your pick, I have one question that I had to go back and like double and triple and quadruple check.


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[Assistant] I did not expect to see four interior defensive linemen off the board at any point in the first round here, Chris.


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[Assistant] Well, as long as we're talking San Francisco, let's go there next at 31. They've been active so far. They were at 13. You had them trade them back to 20 to get Henry Ruggs, the wide receiver from Alabama. So what's on your mind here? 31.


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[Assistant] That's five cornerbacks now off the board as we get to the last pick of the first round Chiefs at 32 who just might also be in the cornerback market too.


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[Assistant] Hey Chris, I'm a huge fan of any kind of pick that, especially at this point of the first round, that ignores what could be a bigger need and you look at your biggest strength and you're just kind of showing off and you're like, you know what?


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[Assistant] We'll be fine if there's other spots. We're gonna take our best position and make it even better with this fit.


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[Assistant] First round in the books and I want to get to before we close this one out. The biggest names that didn't make it, Jordan Love didn't get picked. T Higgins, wide receiver, Clemson didn't make your cut. Hamler, receiver, Penn State, I thought he might go somewhere. He didn't go. Am I leaving any other big names of your man crushes out?


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[Assistant] Well, hopefully it would take more than that. And hey, his, his running of over a five and the 40 yard dash at the combine is, uh, is the biggest issue and we had nothing to do with that. Chris, that was fun, man. Way to go.


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[Assistant] Yes, I'm a huge fan of mox, of mox. I don't read them all, but the ones that I read.


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[Assistant] Make sure you tell CD that you have him going eight to Arizona to play with Kyler and Larry Fitzgerald and DeAndre Hopkins. He'll like you even more.


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[Assistant] So two things I learned there, Chris, was that you can go a whole podcast without swearing. That I didn't know previously. And two, that you have a drawing table. So you had to go back to the drawing table.


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[Assistant] I would have never thought that we'd have the podcast where you wouldn't swear for the first time before I let one slip, and so that was an upset.


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[Assistant] I did trim the beard. But you know what I'm doing? I'm, I, the hair's growing. I haven't touched the hair at all. I'm just letting it grow up and out. And I feel like I'm kind of, I'm growing into a new look here almost.


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[Assistant] To talk about NFL game changers, the biggest game changers of all time, and then the biggest game changers right now. That's going to be an interesting discussion. We'll talk a little bit about, about Cam Newton. We got some Ask Me Anything questions that we've picked from, uh, from some submissions from back, uh, a couple weeks ago, and some current ones as well. But Chris, we have to start.


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[Assistant] Uniform police. And so that's what we have to do. We've been called into action once again.


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[Assistant] Because there's a new uniform out there and it came from LA. The Chargers were the first to bring us a new one. We love that one. Rave reviews, Chris.


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[Assistant] And now the rams have come out withers. We saw a sneak peek of the new helmet, the logo, the updated ram horn, and now we get the blue and yellows, and then we get the white unis, and I'll be honest with you Chris, the reaction from


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[Assistant] Well, I'll give you the blue and the yellow, that pop, those super rich colors, I'm into that. I'm into like the super rich color rush colors, and so I like the blue, I like the yellow, I like the all blue, I'm with you there. Uhm, the bone white though one, you say you're in the minority, you might be the only one that likes that. So, I guess what it's supposed to be is, it's supposed to be uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, a tip of the cap to the ram horn, the color of an actual ram horn, also some of those sandy beaches in LA, and so there is some meaning to it, but it almost looks like a practice you need to meet, Chris. The bone white looks like a practice jersey.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it does pop. I'll give you that. The blue and the yellow, they do pop. Uh, there's an interesting choice with the numbers. Uh, the, if you notice the numbers that they have, it's a gradient. It's not one solid color. It kind of goes light yellow and then into a darker yellow. Um, I think the same might be happening with the blue ones there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but it kind of is a, is a theme with some of these other uniforms and Pete Demilemelitis was able to come up with it with a couple of the other new ones that are out there.


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[Assistant] You kind of see a similar thing with the Falcons new updated uniforms. And you also see a similar thing, you know, with the Jaguars, with the two-tone helmets that they have done.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I don't know if it's like this gradient is taking over in the NFL. I'm not totally about it with the number look right there, but it seems like some teams are experimenting with it.


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[Assistant] So here are all of them and Chad Barrett submitted this to the unofficial uniform police. Which team has the best and worst rebrand this offseason? So we got the Rams, we got the Falcons, we got the Chargers, who you're right, I do like with their powder blue and the numbers on the helmets.


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[Assistant] The Bucks updated their numbers to make them look a little bit better. Patriots went with their color rush. Browns went more retro.


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[Assistant] Uh, the colts, very slight change for the colts, the numbers were a little bit more, kinda like that shoe horn, like the horseshoe look to them, a little more angular.


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[Assistant] I think the best of the rebrands was the Chargers.


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[Assistant] The worst one I think is the Rams and Patriots. Cause the Patriots didn't do much. They just went with their color rush uniforms. Uhm, updated the piping on the shoulders just a touch. So I would say it's a tie between the Rams and the Patriots. I'm not all that impressed by their updated uniforms.


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[Assistant] So the other day I went, uh, we, we have this little fire pet and we had s'mores and one of the marshmallows I kept in there too long and the end of it started to burn and it was reminiscent of what we just saw there with the falcon.


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[Assistant] We just have totally different takes, which leads us to, and this is the last of the, you know, we've rated the top helmets in the NFL. We've rated the bottom five helmets in the NFL. We've done the bottom five jerseys in the NFL. This sets the stage for the final one, Chris.


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[Assistant] The cherry on top. The top five uniforms overall in the NFL. So let's recap and look at the bottom five that we had. And we did this about a month and a half ago. And it was before some of the jersey updates. So we both had the Buccaneers in our bottom five, Chris.


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[Assistant] They were clearly affected by that. And I think we both noted that the numbers were just funky looking. And they did change the numbers to probably move them out of our five ugliest uniforms. But here were the worst ones that we said about a couple months ago.


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[Assistant] Alright, so let's do it. Let's do it real quick here. Alright, you ready Chris?


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[Assistant] Five best uniforms and we'll start with number five and we'll go all the way to number one. And I asked producer Pete, I was like, how, I was like, Chris and I almost never agree. You've already seen it here in this podcast. I was like, how similar are our top five? And he goes, not similar at all.


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[Assistant] My number five top jersey right now in the NFL is the Broncos. I'm going with Broncos right now. Specifically, my favorite of all the combinations is the blue jersey, white pants with the orange piping on the side, a little stripe on the pants as well.


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[Assistant] I think it pops, I think it all works together. Broncos number five. Okay, I mean,


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[Assistant] Of all teams not to rebrand, they're one of them that hasn't. You've been calling for it all off season.


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[Assistant] Close to my top five, I, I gotta admit. Because when you look, when you look at it, it's, it's unique, right? And you just know it. You're like, okay, that's, that's a Washington game that I'm watching right now. And so it's like it just, and I had their, I had their helmets in my top five, which was very controversial when we did that, uh, the first time. So I, I can agree with the Redskins having that.


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[Assistant] That look. Number four for me was my number one helmet. I think I just like the color purple.


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[Assistant] The Minnesota Vikings, and specifically the purple jersey with the white pants. Uh, that, oh my gosh, that Matt helmet is so good. The Vikings are number four for me, Chris.


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[Assistant] When they went off the court, it's making me mad. And so they're good. I just couldn't put them in the, in the top five.


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[Assistant] Uh, we're into the top three here. Okay, so top three.


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[Assistant] And this one, I, I didn't know, before I looked through all the jerseys, I was like, I kinda had an idea, I was like, alright, Vikings will be in there because I like purple, uhm, you know, Broncos I didn't really know, but this one I had no idea, but then I was, the more I looked at it, I was like, that's iconic. And, and it was the Miami Dolphins.


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[Assistant] Specifically with their aqua jersey, their white pants. I mean that's just a, that's just a unique look and it's a team with a lot of tradition back in the day with Don Shula. Uh, so I put the Miami Dolphins as number three for me.


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[Assistant] It's like in our lifetime. Yea, in our lifetime they've been good, not great, and sometimes bad.


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[Assistant] Uh, that is the action green. The Seahawks have never lost in them according to producer Pete. Five and O in the action green. And it does kinda, it like sears a, a image in your head that you can't forget. And maybe that's why you had to put them in your top five. Cause you just couldn't get them out of your head. Like blinded you.


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[Assistant] The Dallas Cowboys get the nod for me at number two. I love the, uh, the white jersey with the silver pants.


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[Assistant] And I think, you know what, yea. Like right, if you just were to show this to anyone off the street and they didn't know the tradition of the Dallas Cowboys, they'd probably say, okay, it seems pretty rudimentary. Almost like a practice jersey, like I said, with the Rams. But I don't know, it just, it just works because it's America's team and it seems simple and they haven't messed it up.


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[Assistant] So we have not had any, we have not had any overlap so far. That's kind of...


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[Assistant] Amazing that we have not, but maybe we will at number one here. My number one.


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[Assistant] We don't, no, that was worth it because we don't want your, we don't want your dad mad from the moment he gets on. Uh, okay, the number one uniform in the NFL right now.


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[Assistant] The San Francisco 49ers. Scarlet Jersey. The metallic gold pants. Classic look. I mean, this is teams that were great back in the 80s with Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, and now you have the Super Bowl once again.


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[Assistant] And when they go with the white cleats too, I mean I can give a standing ovation for that.


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[Assistant] See, this is why, this is kind of like one of those, people are missing live sports, Chris, but this is almost like some drama. We've built in some drama into this podcast right now. Will we get your dad on? Will he be mad when he finally gets, uh, gets on online here? What number will he call in on?


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[Assistant] The Dallas Cowboys get your top jersey out there. Now you know what I'm curious about.


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[Assistant] Well, and he's talked, he's talked too about, about the Giants jerseys, right? And you've said that. I mean, you, with these, with the Browns and some of these teams have gone, gone more retro here. The Giants jerseys, I mean, they try to update them, but man, that looked pretty sharp back in the day.


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[Assistant] Biggest game changers then and now, Cam Newton as well. Plus we have some really good Ask Me Anything.


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[Assistant] Big Phil on the phone. Hello Phil, how you doing?


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[Assistant] We just got done. We just got done. We just got done talking. Uh, we, we did our top five current jerseys in the NFL. So it's been a really hard hitting podcast.


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[Assistant] Uh, Phil, a couple things that we want to just talk about and pick your brain about. We love doing that once a week, but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, is about game changers, uh, in the, in the NFL. And, I mean, their teams are always looking for this. We just, we just had the draft in your, the top ten. You're hoping that one of those guys can be a game changer, but there are very few that can single-handedly change the complexion, uh, of, of a game. And so we just kind of wanted to pick your brain on,


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[Assistant] Who you thought some of those players were then and who they are now. And back in the day, and I was thinking about this, uhm, a couple days ago, because I think it was the NBC Twitter account that tweeted out like some of the top players in the NFL, like if you had the number one pick, who would you take? And a lot of the people said,


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[Assistant] And I couldn't disagree with them. Lawrence Taylor. And when you talk about game changers, a guy that can disrupt the game, of course you want that hall of fame quarterback. But man, if that hall of fame quarterback doesn't have time to throw.


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[Assistant] What else can he do? And so, you know, for me, when I first heard that we were talking about this, I thought of Lawrence Taylor and I know that you've talked about him and obviously knew him very well.


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[Assistant] I'm surprised you did. Russell Wilson, I feel like. He was honestly the first player that came to mind.


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[Assistant] For me, because not that he's, I think he has changed the game a little bit because he's opened up some opportunities for guys like Kyler Murray and maybe opened the eyes of some offensive coordinators out there that you don't need the guy with giant hands and six foot five.


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[Assistant] Who would you guys put in that category outside of the quarterback position? No, because it's a lot more difficult obviously to change the game from a position not at the quarterback, perhaps the most important position in any sport out there right now.


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[Assistant] Who are some names, I mean I was thinking Aaron Donald, Nick Bosa maybe has the chance to do it, George Kittle at the tight end position, are there any that you're thinking of guys?


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[Assistant] Cam Newton was a game changer in the NFL. It would be nice to see him get back healthy again. Phil, I know you've been doing a lot of thinking about him and we've talked about it and Chris has talked about it with Mike Florian.


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[Assistant] If he's healthy and when he's healthy, he totally can be a game changer for any team out there. There are just questions with the foot surgery and the shoulder surgery here over the last couple of years, how effective he can be now.


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[Assistant] He's still out there right now, Phil. And there's talk of, you know, does he want to be a backup? Where would he fit in? What franchises are out there? You hear the Patriots brought up a lot, but they don't have a whole lot of, a lot of cap space. So if there is a team out there trying to look for


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[Assistant] Cam Newton is a potential game changer if, if healthy. I mean, where are these teams that, that Cam Newton could fit in? Cause clearly if he's healthy, he's still one of the, one of the, one of the top quarterbacks out there.


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[Assistant] Question is, where will, where will he end up? You figure he'll finally find the team goal. You have to wait for an injury to some quarterback out there. Um, Phil, can you stick around for a couple, ask me anything questions because-


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[Assistant] Game changer for the, for the Buccaneers for sure. One of the worst franchises over the past few years have not had the success. And that is a question here, Chris, from Ray's Boom Boom Room.


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[Assistant] That says, who do you think the bottom five teams will be five through one? He said asking for a Panthers fan. So this is apparently raised boom boom rumors as a Panthers fan fearing that a post Cam Newton Carolina team might not be very good. So last year, Chris, just to remind everyone.


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[Assistant] The worst teams were the Bengals, Washington, Lions, Giants, and Dolphins.


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[Assistant] Chargers were, uh, out of that bottom five. Panthers were there. Cardinals were in the mix. Jaguars, uhm, Browns. So, I don't know. Who do you think? It's tough to say year to year because it seems like every year


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[Assistant] Teams improve a little bit, and obviously teams have gotten better throughout the draft, but who do you think has not been able to escape the bottom five currently?


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[Assistant] The only good thing for them is, I don't, I don't, the only good thing for them is I don't know that the teams in their division have necessarily gotten better. Either, you know, Vikings, Bears, Packers, either.


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[Assistant] Injuries will play a huge part in who ends up being in the bottom fives that always does there. And you never know. Seasons can go sideways on teams. You can throw the Raiders into that mix, the Jets into that mix, the Bears, depending on what happens with their quarterbacks. Definitely, definitely.


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[Assistant] Have we taken too much of your dad's time, Chris?


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[Assistant] Chris is ignoring the joke at this point. Alright, so a question about the Bengals. We just talked about them perhaps being in our bottom five once again. They had the worst record this past year, had the number one pick. But maybe they do have some strengths on their team and this one comes from Mitchell Racine.


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[Assistant] Cowboys with Amari, you got Michael Gallup, now you got CD Lamb there. Yeaah, that's pretty damn good. I think the Chiefs too. The Chiefs too, Chris, obviously with Tyreek and Watkins to Marcus Robinson, Mikul Hardman, I think that's a pretty deep wide receiver.


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[Assistant] Uh, alright, two more here, Chris, and then we'll, uh, we'll wrap it up, because there's a couple I wanna, I wanna see how you're gonna answer these, alright? And by the way, I don't think your dad was that upset that we made him wait. Maybe a little bit off the top, but I don't think that, that bad.


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[Assistant] All the stuff we have to deal with, right? It's like not only all the research that goes into it, but dealing with the, uh, the temper of your father. Uh, okay, here, here's one from Jake Parker 12.


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[Assistant] He says, uh, and I'm curious about this too, he said when evaluating a quarterback prospect,


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[Assistant] Uh, if they will be successful in the NFL, what's the first thing you look for? What is the X factor? You have a really good track record of, of seeing these quarterbacks play in college. And Lamar Jackson, you were high on. Patrick Mahomes, as your father just mentioned, you were, you were high on.


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[Assistant] Daniel Jones maybe wasn't in that case, you missed something on him, but what is it that you look for and you feel like is the best indicator of if a quarterback can go from college to the pros?


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[Assistant] And we probably put too much emphasis on the player evaluation and not enough on the player development because I think both are equally important. A lot of times a player, you know, is drafted late and like a Tom Brady, right? You're like, wow, they've got the diamond in the rough there. That was really good player evaluation.


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[Assistant] Maybe it was just really good player development along the way and it can go the opposite way. You could take a guy 1-1 overall who has all the tools but is screwed up in player development.


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[Assistant] And now you say, oh, you drafted a boss. Well, he wouldn't have been a boss if you would have had a little bit better coaching. So I think that we often dismiss the player development part of it and overemphasize the player evaluation part.


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[Assistant] It's tempting to think that the cream always will rise to the top, but you're right. If, if Drew Brees does not meet Sean Payton and is not coached by Sean Payton, he'd never probably becomes Drew Brees like we, like we know him right now.


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[Assistant] Basketball too. Alright, last one, last one. And we could talk about baseball with this one. Uh, this comes from John James Wilkin. He asks,


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[Assistant] Who is your favorite non-football athlete? Your favorite non-football athlete. And Chris, he wrote favorite F-A-V-O-U-R-I-T-E. So he's Canadian maybe or British or something. So we got fans everywhere. Yes, or French. Right. Or French.


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[Assistant] So, I think I'm going to guess yours. I'm going to guess who your favorite non-football athlete, a lot of people right now are probably going to say Jordan because that Jordan documentary is


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[Assistant] Taking over the nation, but I am not gonna say that's your guy. I think it was Derek Jeter for you. New York Yankee.


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[Assistant] You know, the athletes that make it look easy, right? He would go up there and it would almost look like he was playing wiffle ball.


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[Assistant] It was like, why does it look so easy for him? And you see it in the NFL too, where you have some quarterbacks that it looks so difficult. It's like, that's, I think that's a good way to be a talent evaluator too, is like, does he make it look easy or very difficult?


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[Assistant] It, it shocks me when these players can go in there into this sport with the best athletes in the world, and they're like, wow, it looks like it is so easy for him, and I always thought Miguel Cabrera was that way, but you're right, LeBron and that same mole, it's like, it's just a different game that these guys are playing.


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[Assistant] Yep. Alright Chris, we did it. We had another long one here, but that was good.


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[Assistant] Trimmed up the beard. Yep. Trimmed to the beard, haircut. I got power back. Chris, you got power back. We were this close to doing a podcast together in the same room for the first time in what feels like probably seven or eight years, but that did not happen. We both got our power back just in time.


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[Assistant] I would love to do that. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's plan for it. I am like, uh, yeah, cause we were both excited about it, but I am a little disappointed that we both just like bailed back to our home studio immediately when our power came.


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[Assistant] But, uh, yeah, we, we had, uh, no power here in Connecticut where I lived for, I think it was six days, which is more of a problem here at this place because we are, we're on well water. And so then we don't have water either. Um, so I learned, I learned two things, Chris, while, while I was home with no power.


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[Assistant] I learned how to chop up some wood with an axe. I did that for like the first time in my life and I have two blisters to uh, to show for it. I'm not like that kind of a guy, but I'm developing it here and developing a new skill. And number two, uh, I learned how to flush my toilet by just pouring water into it. So I was able to.


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[Assistant] I was like, I'm not swimming in Chris's pool, uh, for the first year of the future.


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[Assistant] Someone legit sent me a direct message, such a nice person, uh, saying that he had a similar problem as me, where he would sweat even in a cold room just sitting down, and he sent me a picture of the deodorant that


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[Assistant] He uses, uh, and so I'm going to go to the store. I'm going to check out that deodorant and get it and it could solve my problem here. So we got some super nice listeners, Chris, and we got super smart listeners as well because we did a whole ask me anything pod. We came up with the idea Pete did.


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[Assistant] Just a couple hours ago and we already got legit like 30 or 40 really interesting questions. So they have, they have come through once again and they have saved us once again. So Chris, are you prepared for a all ask me anything podcast here?


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[Assistant] My favorite part of the pod is, uh, just sitting at home and seeing that our text thread and Matt or Pete or myself, text ideas out there of what we can do with the pod. And they're all centered around you doing more work. Like that's my favorite part of the, of preparing for the pod.


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[Assistant] We did top 10 wide receivers and they're like, Hey, let's do a top 10 cornerbacks. We'll do that. We'll throw that at Chris. And then, uh, one of our, uh, one of our, uh, fans out there tweeted us that we should make up a fake team. And I had the idea. I was like, Chris should fill that team out with his favorite players. And I was like, yeah.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's uh, let's get into a few of these cause we got really good ones here. Uhm, we'll start with something Chris that, that your dad and, and you were talking about with the arm strength, uh, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, really interesting conversation about, you know,


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[Assistant] Hardness, miles per hour as opposed to who can throw at the farthest and all that. This one comes from Sheldon. He says, Can you help me understand the difference between throwing harder and longer? Like one has a faster traveling ball question mark. Because if I'm right, the faster traveling ball is farther and harder assuming they're both thrown at the same trajectory. So,


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[Assistant] You know, you were trying to make the difference. Your dad ultimately said he thinks Josh Allen can throw it farther and harder. Uhm, you think there's a little more nuance to that, to that conversation. So, so what is the difference between harder and longer as far as throwing the football?


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[Assistant] If you had to choose one, if you could only have one elite ability, whether like you're Dan Marino and you could throw it on a line for 40 yards or you can throw it 80 yards, but you maybe can't throw those out routes quite as, uh, with high velocity, which one would you pick?


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[Assistant] 100%. No, that was super clear. Uhm, and I feel bad because I let your dad down because you were talking about the velocity at which they throw and your dad brought up the combine.


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[Assistant] Um, miles per hour, which they do test there and he was like, ah, it looks like you're looking it up right now. I did not. I, I, I failed. Um, but I am looking at it right now and it is really interesting. I'm looking at Josh Allen in 2018. Now, not all quarterbacks throw at the combine like Joe Burrow and Tua did not throw last year.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but Josh Allen, he's got the highest recorded here that I can see going back to 2008. He was at 62 miles per hour out of his hand.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, Baker Mayfield was not far behind. He was right around 60 miles per hour. And then right at the bottom, the, the least Lamar Jackson, 49 miles per hour, uh, in 2018 of all the quarterbacks who threw. That's crazy to me that he was that low.


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[Assistant] So 2017, uhm, Patrick Mahomes year, who do you think threw the hardest at the combine of the quarterbacks in 2017?


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[Assistant] C.J. Beathard, Trevor Knight, Davis Webb, Joshua Dobbs, Seth Russell.


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[Assistant] He was number one. Good job. I tried to throw him in the middle there, like I wasn't even thinking about him. Pretty good by me. Uh, yeah, he was just ahead of, uh, of him. He was like, uh, 56 miles per hour to the left.


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[Assistant] Patrick Mahomes was throwing 55 miles an hour to the right and left. So he was number two. Uh, Deshaun Watson dead last 45, 45 miles per hour for Deshaun Watson. That's another one of those things like the thing with Lamar. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Do you have any idea what your miles per hour were? You know, do you ever get up to?


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[Assistant] No, I can't find it. Maybe Pete will be able to find it at, uh, at some point here, but no, I, I can't. Uhm, that, that's super interesting though. And I, I could look at that, uh, those list of miles per hour and just how relevant it can be and how irrelevant it can be for, for some of the other quarterbacks out there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we can't do it from time to time as people notice. Uhm, Pete says apparently it has an NA for Chris' ball velocity at the combine. Not sure how much they kept those records back then or maybe it just didn't show up, right? It's gotta be a certain speed to get a reading and it was not able to.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's uh, that's super interesting digging back into your past and this one does as well. Malik Gordon says, what was your favorite past concept as a quarterback? So think of all the, all the different past concepts that were, that were out there. What was your favorite to run as a QB?


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[Assistant] So if I'm understanding it correctly, it's all kind of just playing out in front of you. It's like your natural way your eyes would progress over your, from one receiver to the next. It wasn't, it was almost like second nature or reflex. Exactly, you're just playing.


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[Assistant] At a certain point, we're gonna have to have you break down the opposite of that and the Gruden play calls and the Gruden offense and the green right X shift to Viper right 382 X stick looking.


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[Assistant] We'll do that next week. We'll get you on the whiteboard and we'll break down some of those Gruden plays. Sure. Write them all out and then show exactly what each player, uh, does in that. Give me nightmares. Let's stick with, uh, let's stick with Bill Belichick. You were on the staff there with New England for a year. This one comes from, uh, Kaku Valdivia.


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[Assistant] I think I nailed that. Uh, what is one thing Bill Belichick told you that, uh, that stuck with you? So I'm curious, you know, how, how close, how much communication did you even have? I mean, you're basically on the staff there with New England for a year. How much communication did you have with, with Bill Belichick and what was one thing you said that you remember to this day?


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[Assistant] You still can't talk to Bill Belichick. No matter what, your winning streak is that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like what, uh, people say about rich people. They go, you're rich. Why do you care about not spending? Well, you spend your money. And they're like, well, that's how I got to have a lot of money is that I didn't spend the money. It's like success. It's like, well, relax a little bit. Why don't you just, you know, you, you're the Patriots. You've had your success. You've proved you're good.


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[Assistant] Uh, but that's how they, that's how they reach that level. That's exactly right. Right. It's not taking the foot off the gas. It's not in their DNA. That's right.


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[Assistant] Patriots have had some success against, uh, Russell Wilson and, uh, Seattle Seahawks. This one comes from Orion Chezelwet. We've heard from him before. He gives us great questions from time to time. This is another one. Is there a season from


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[Assistant] But it would have been hard for anyone to look past Lamar. So you've brought this up before.


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[Assistant] Pete noted that, uh, Russell Wilson has never received a vote for MVP as long as he has been in the league, has been one of the best quarterbacks, uh, in football. He is your number two quarterback currently going into the 2020 season, uh, but has never gotten an MVP vote, but Orion brings up a good point.


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[Assistant] There may be a good reason for that. It's just that he has never been the best quarterback or at least had the best year of any quarterback in the NFL since 2012. So can you think of any season in the last, you know, seven or so?


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[Assistant] Where you would have given Russell Wilson the MVP vote over, over the guys who got it. Because I'm thinking, I'm looking at his stats right here, Chris.


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[Assistant] It looks like, you know, 2014, 2015 were really good years, uh, for Rutha Wilson, but that was 2014 was Aaron Rodgers, great year. 2015 was Cam Newton, awesome year. Yeaah, which is a great year, right. Yeaah. So it's like, he has been so consistent, but has he had that year where he's been the best?


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[Assistant] He had, you know, that was 2016, 2017 was, uh, 32 touchdowns, interceptions, but he led the NFL in yards, yards per game. Russell Wilson did lead the NFL in touchdown passes in 2017, but, but Brady had a monster year, 4,500 yards for Brady that year.


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[Assistant] He's so, he's so good. Uh, he has only had three 4,000 yard seasons in nine years, but that speaks to the offense. Feetnotes here. You've noted that, that as well. Yeah. He, he is just so much fun to watch. One of the reasons I'm looking forward to the 2020 season and I hope it happens. This one comes from Adam Ross 11. Is the NFL even going to happen this year?


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[Assistant] So he wants, uh, let's give him some optimism. Let's, let's give him the reasons why this could work out. What is your true honest feeling of, of the NFL season this year and the likelihood that we get it?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's always been the case. I mean, it's what we saw with the NBA, right? They have that hotline where NBA players can call and rat out anonymously some of their teammates who are not following the protocols, which is what you want. You don't want one person to blow it all up for everyone else or blow it up for.


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[Assistant] I think one of the hardest things, Chris, for the coaches this year is being able to be as uh, as tough and intimidating with a big shield over their face. It's all like near impossible, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I think that too. It's like who are these players we've heard all the time. Oh, he's more of a practice player. Looks great in practice. Get him on the field during the game in front of 50,000 fans. He falls apart. Players won't have that issue this year. Yeah, that's a great one.


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[Assistant] Okay, so, uh, this is an interesting one too. So this one comes from, oh man, these are, these are harder. Oh, Bonia Isaac.


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[Assistant] Bonia Isaac asks, would you be more surprised if all four teams from the NFC West or AFC West


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[Assistant] Made the playoffs. So which would surprise you most? So here's the AFC West, you got Kansas City, you got Denver, you got Oakland, you got the Chargers. You think it's more surprising, less surprising if all those teams made the playoffs or if in the NFC West, San Francisco, Seattle, Rams, Arizona.


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[Assistant] Denver was seven and nine last year. Oakland was seven and nine last year. Chargers were five and eleven last year. Bad year after a good year.


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[Assistant] So you're gonna beat up on each other, right? And I think the problem with the NFC West is that San Francisco and Seattle may be so much better.


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[Assistant] That they may beat up on the Rams in Arizona may make it tougher for them. Whereas you won't necessarily have that with the AFC West, Denver, Oakland, the Chargers could all maybe squeak a.


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[Assistant] Eight and eight, nine and seven season together and, and squeak in. So I'd, I'd probably go with the AFC West more likely that all four of those teams make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Cancel culture won't be a thing. Cancel culture won't be a thing in the FC West.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm curious about Arizona to see what, what they have this year, second year at Cliff Kingsbury. I'm curious about the Chargers to see, you know, we talked about the talent they have on the roster. They don't necessarily have it at quarterback, but a pretty complete roster. But I'm super interested in, uh, in Denver.


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[Assistant] Um, to see what they can do. Drew Locke. And this question comes from Ryan Allway who sent a tweet to us earlier today that said,


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[Assistant] Why am I gonna ask a question cause you guys never answer my questions anyway. So we went back, Pete found his question that he's upset that we never answered. So we'll make things right for Ryan right here. Uh, he goes, morning Chris, you truly have the best NFL morning show on TV. How did we not answer this question? If you start your question with that, you're normally automatic.


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[Assistant] He goes, do you think Vic Fangio is the correct fit for Denver? Do you think he's the correct fit for Denver?


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[Assistant] Yep, yeah, we would have answered that question, but Pete never gave it to us, so it's obvious. What a jerk Pete is.


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[Assistant] You know, what was it, uh, a couple months ago where there was some backlash for him saying that he didn't think racism was a problem in the NFL and those kind of things people say it's like, ah, yep, game has passed him by. He's not connecting with his players, but I do think.


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[Assistant] Those are also opportunities to learn for Vic Fanchu and I think a lot of players and people have respected him throughout the years and so I don't necessarily see those little hiccups as having negative effects going forward perhaps.


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[Assistant] I was there in San Francisco when he was the defensive coordinator and he was so well respected. A lot of people were upset that he didn't get the job after, uh, after Harbaugh left. I think he would do really, really well with it. Um, let's talk about the Cardinals because, um, you just, uh,


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[Assistant] You just talked about them being a team that you want to watch and see if they can make the progression. Maybe you're not quite as high on them as your buddy Mike Florio is. Uhm, this one comes from.


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[Assistant] Boss Camp Bradford says, do you think Cliff Kingsbury's offense will change now that he has DeAndre Hopkins on the outside?


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[Assistant] Uh, Pete notes here a couple things. Cardinals used the 10 personnel, four wide receivers, one running back on 32% of their plays last season. The next highest team was Seattle at just 9%. So do you think?


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[Assistant] That they will have some meaningful changes to that offense this year.


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[Assistant] A league high, 82% of the time, the NFL average was 61%.


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[Assistant] And I love seeing that the different approaches and the fact that they work, right? The Baltimore Raven, San Francisco 49ers have different approaches to offense, both super successful as far as running the football. You can have the total opposite in Seattle when you put the game right on Russell Wilson's arm to have him go make plays with the passing game and Kyler Murray.


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[Assistant] Uh, this one comes from Oli Hogg that asked about that Ravens running game. He goes, will J.K. Dobbins take over as the number one back for the Ravens?


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[Assistant] This year, so they're going to be able to run the ball effectively, just like they did last year, a lot with the quarterback, probably with Lamar Jackson, but


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[Assistant] What do you think about the kid from, uh, from Ohio State? You think he takes over as the number one guy?


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[Assistant] I love watching the ravens and the way they play. Like if you, if you had your choice of offenses, because it seems like you're, you're right. The trend is, is throw the ball. It's effective throwing the ball and you can do it and just do it more and more. Don't try to, like Seattle, if they just abandoned the run altogether, it'd probably make their life a whole lot easier and their offense a whole lot better. Uhm, but when you can run like the ravens do,


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[Assistant] That's super fun to watch, very effective. Like what would you, what's your, what's your druthers? You know, just an offense that throws up basically 99% of the time or an offense that could run 99% of the time as effectively as the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the play action game, one of the teams that run that a lot and effectively the Minnesota Vikings, uh, last year with Kirk Cousins. This comes from our Sims Homies, uh, Twitter account.


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[Assistant] Get a tattoo. We already know you got one with Kyle matching tattoos. Maybe if the 49ers won a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Corey1Ryan asks, maybe you would get another tattoo for that. Uhm, but what would it be now? What would have to happen for you to get a tattoo?


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[Assistant] Yep. Okay, so that's what Pete noted here. He thought maybe you go back into coaching, you win the Super Bowl, and then you'd get a...


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[Assistant] A picture of your offensive coordinator's face on your leg or defensive coordinator, right?


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[Assistant] Pete wrote down here, if the Lions have an undefeated season for me, what if I would get a tattoo? Cause I don't have any tattoos right now. I'm not opposed to it actually. I'm not, I'm not anti it. I think.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if the Lions had undefeated season, I mean, I wouldn't even go that far. I would say if they win like a playoff game or two, I'd consider it.


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[Assistant] At this point, I have a long-standing bet with my buddy.


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[Assistant] Uh, and we made this bet, I think it's what like 18 years ago now or 15 years ago maybe.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that the Lions, I bet him $100 that the Lions would make it to his Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] In, uh, in Wayne Fonce's lifetime. And so it's like.


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[Assistant] Wayne Fontz, I love it. He's still, you know, live and kicking. I'm, I'm rooting for him. And he was such a fun coach for the Lions because like they'd have this rough start and then they would go on this like, you know, winning streak at the end of the season, squeak into the playoffs and eh, you know, one time win a playoff game. Um, but.


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[Assistant] And so I'm rooting for, I'm rooting for that to happen, just as a, a long, uh, lifelong Alliance fan that, uh, that wants to see something, something happen here. So I'm, I'm still holding out that I'm going to be able to cash in on that bet, Chris.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay, yeah. I think he's still, he's still down there. Pete notes he's 80 years old and seems to be in good health. Saw him at the, uh, the Barry Sanders Hall of Fame induction. What was that? Like 10 years ago now. And so I loved Wayne Fontz. I hope he lives to be 110 and the Lions get to the Superbowl and I'll win a hundred bucks from my butt.


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[Assistant] Uhm, no, I don't think I will, so I will not be getting a tattoo, but I'll consider it. Like if the Lions win the Super Bowl, I will, like maybe, I'll get a Lions tattoo and then my son and daughter's name right below it.


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[Assistant] That'll be good. Uh, this one comes, you kind of talked about your future there and if you were to coach a team and win a Super Bowl, uh, this one comes from Left Lane 21.


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[Assistant] Do you ever think you'll work in the NFL? Again, we've kind of discussed that in the past where you've talked about perhaps getting, getting back into it and now is not the right time. I mean,


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[Assistant] Consume, consume your entire every hour of your, uh, every week on football. It's not the right time for you on that, although we do put you to work at just about the same amount of time at NBC. Uh, so what do you think? You think you'll ever get back into the league?


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[Assistant] So what roles in your front office kind of intrigue you? What, what responsibilities?


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[Assistant] Uh, I like that. And if you go, and if there's room for me. You're coming.


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[Assistant] I'll go, right? I'll be part of the media department, right? Teams need that. No doubt. I'll bring my camera. I have my camera and I got, I got all that stuff. So we'll, we'll talk.


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[Assistant] I got a background. Uh, okay, uh, let's get a couple about quarterbacks here. Um, because I think we're, we're almost to our, our, our, our minimum. So I think that's good. We've, uh, that's a success. Uh, this one comes from John Wilson 21. He says, if Andrew Luck was still in the league, where would he be in your top 40 quarterbacks?


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[Assistant] So where would Andrew Luck be after taking a year off? You have to assume he may be back to full health, uhm, if he wanted to play again. So how high would he go?


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[Assistant] He was. Pete says he was four in your ranks last year.


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[Assistant] So if you had the choice, sight unseen for Andrew Luck, you had the team, you needed a quarterback, you needed to fill it, and you've got the number five pick, and sitting there is Lamar Jackson or Andrew Luck. Who do you take?


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[Assistant] So who'd you take for this year? Andrew Luck or Carson Wentz?


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[Assistant] We're gonna nail this ranking down. Okay, Dak Prescott or Andrew Luck.


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[Assistant] We're gonna nail this ranking down. We're gonna figure out exactly where he slots into your top 40.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright, so, uh, Pete just gave us the headline, Chris Simms disrespects Cam Newton, drops him out of the top ten. I mean, I guess they both haven't really done a whole lot of football playing in the past. No, technically.


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[Assistant] Stay with the quarterbacks fun guy asks, uh, Nick Foles has turned six good quarters into multiple jobs and legendary status in Philly. Am I wrong to think that Trubisky has a shot to either win the job outright or take over mid season? So I guess he's assuming that Nick Foles is going to win the job out of training camp.


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[Assistant] And, uh, what do you think? Is there a chance that...


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[Assistant] Nick Foles falls apart and the resurrection of the career of Mitch Trubisky, uh, can happen in Chicago.


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[Assistant] I wonder how much of this for quarterbacks too is that it takes a while for it all to click. I remember, I mean, I was never at the level of an elite athlete, but I remember as a basketball player, like I was never that good of a basketball player. I was pretty athletic. Um, but then I was in college, like I played through my sophomore year in high school and that was it. Then I got into college and I was like, wait,


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[Assistant] It's all of a sudden clicking like how to get open and running off screens. And it's like, I wonder how much for Mitchell Trubisky is going to be when he looks back on his years here in the NFL, or at least his early years in the NFL is be like, Oh man, why didn't it just click for me sooner? And for some players that probably just never comes, Chris.


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[Assistant] You know, coaching, offensive line, all those things is why it's fascinating just to, you know, everyone always thinks the cream rises to the top. And it's like, Oh, eventually if you know, if you're meant to be a great quarterback, you're going to be a great quarterback eventually.


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[Assistant] Well, sometimes it just never happens, especially in football, right? When you have so many, so few limited, you know, opportunities for some quarterbacks, it might be a year or two or a few games. Right? No, that's not enough time for the cream to rise to the top.


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[Assistant] Uhm, let's talk about you as a quarterback again. Self-scout thyself.


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[Assistant] This one comes from, uh, Compass Traveler. He says, what was your strength and weakness as a quarterback? So your strength and weakness back when you were in your prime as a pro quarterback, Chris.


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[Assistant] Was some of that getting caged in? Because I know some coaches are pretty strict about, you know, get it out three steps, timing, you know, Gruden may have been that way. It's like part of it, you know, you got to break through that mold of you, you want to do what the coach is saying, but you also don't want to be a robot and you want to be your own player. I mean, how difficult is that?


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[Assistant] That's it. That's the, that usually is the hour and twenty mark, although I don't think we've gotten to that point here, Chris. We're at hour and seventeen. We're at hour and seventeen. We're almost there. Probably hour and seventeen.


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[Assistant] Alright, well let's go, let's go one more then, Chris. Cool. Because we don't want to, we don't want to deplete both of your AirPods. When we go into the second AirPods, it's just like, you know what, this is time to wrap it up. And so this one comes from SLucas216 and he says, this is a good one to end on. What's your favorite pizza?


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[Assistant] He goes, what is your favorite pizza for, for Chris Sims? So a chance to give a shout out perhaps to your local parlor. Uhm, but what do you like?


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[Assistant] We had pizza together, uh, a while ago and it was, I think that was like thin crust, right? It was pretty thin crust pizza.


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[Assistant] I've transitioned to Papa John's and Domino's, which I do think Domino's, I'll give Domino's some credit here, underrated pizza, good flavor on the crust, and I think they deserve a mention if we're going to talk about pizzas there. But that's me, I'm a chain guy.


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[Assistant] I've made you, I've made you mad. I've made Pete mad on our little chat here. He goes, Domino's, what is wrong with you, Ahmed?


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[Assistant] After, uh, after football practice, like three times a week, I would go, my, my mom would take me through the McDonald's drive through. It's how we grew up. It's how we lived our life in the Midwest. Chris, we just drank soda, went to fast food restaurants and we just, we got big. That's why we got, we got large. We did do that.


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[Assistant] So good, and I kind of want to have it right now, again. Alright, uhm, hey, I do want to mention here, and it sucks that I'm doing this at the end because I think it's a lot of good stuff. So many other podcasts that are out there. Peter King's got his podcast out there. He's been doing work. I know he's traveling and will be traveling coming up here in the next,


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[Assistant] Few days and weeks. Uh, he wrote about a day in the life of, uh, the Texans. So that is out there right now. Also got an interview with Randall Cobb.


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[Assistant] Peter King is like the most in-depth NFL reporter out there. You like click on a, on a Peter King story, Monday morning quarterback, uh, you know, football morning in America that he's doing now with us. It's just like, it goes on forever. You just, it's like infinite scroll, like a Twitter feed. It just, you keep scrolling and he's, he's still writing.


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[Assistant] Oh, we should have a tell all. We need to have the tell all podcast of being in a car for hours with Peter King.


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[Assistant] Alright, so listen to that, and if you're in Stamford, Connecticut and want some pizza, you can go to Cole House Pizza. Oh, that was it. That's the place that we went to. That's what Pete's telling us we went to there. And so that was very good pizza there. And we got no, we got no money by saying that, but if they are listening and want to give us money for saying that, we'll take it.


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[Assistant] That's what Pete said too, or a free pizza. Alright Chris, well done. Well done by the homies again, giving us so many good questions, ways to go, and giving us stuff to think about that, that we hadn't thought about. It takes our brains in places that we didn't even know we were gonna go.


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[Assistant] Maybe like best, best plays, like, you know, chief's best play and like what it is, you know, maybe like in your mind, what would be their best play or like for the raven.


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[Assistant] Yes. How would you design the best play for this team?


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[Assistant] We're having our pre-show meeting right here at the end of this pod, but I like it. That's a good idea. So we look forward to that, but that's it. We're done, Chris. We made it to the finish line.


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[Assistant] Paulie B is gonna be coming back cause we're getting him back. He was doing a lot of lacrosse here over the last, uh, few weeks. So he'll get back in the mix. I think Bill, Big Phil will be here. So we'll see. I'm on standby. I'm just in my home office, just sitting here all the time and I just turn the camera on if you need me. So if you need me, I'll just turn my camera on.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's right. Yes, yes. I'm up for that. Alright, good, good.


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[Assistant] said it rhymes with mahogany and that did help. So one of these days I'll have the guts to say that last name, but I'm not there yet. Hope everybody's doing well out there. Have everybody stay healthy. It's Monday. It's the day or the, the, the Monday after the draft, two days after the draft, but


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[Assistant] We had a full weekend of football and we're gonna hit it all today. I mean, we're gonna hit most of it. I know that.


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[Assistant] Favorite picks, position by position. We're gonna hit on some of that along the way. We'll hit some news and notes that went on around the NFL. And then Paul and I both got our top five favorite drafts that we saw this weekend. There certainly was some good ones. I had about


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[Assistant] I don't know, about 9, 10, 11 teams that I wrote down that I thought were in the, in the conversation for top 5 drafts. But, uh, either way, there's a lot to unpack here, man. And Paulie, how you doing, big guy?


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[Assistant] And then also the family aspect of it, I thought was really nice too, to see coaches and GM's kids in the room and they want to get their chance to get on TV. So all of a sudden they're going to act like they're interested in what dad's doing, even though they haven't cared about it at that computer probably for the previous four weeks.


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[Assistant] You know, all our minds off the reality of the situation right now. And it was fun. You know, other than maybe...


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[Assistant] You know, listen, there was too many analysts at times where I wanted to go, damn, it's one player and we got seven different highlight packages with nine different guys explaining the guy. You know, and I get that's the way it's got to work sometimes, but that's being nitpicky. Uh, all in all, I thought it was really well done and I enjoyed watching it.


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[Assistant] But they're not like, you know, pumping out their chest, you know, like my buddy Kyle Shanahan, who's going like, I was at the office for 20 hours today. No, he does his work.


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[Assistant] He brings some of his work home with him. He lives it. So it's going to come up again at some point at home, but he doesn't need to be at the office for 21 hours a day. And I think you're right, Paul. I think it's a really good example or it might change some people a little bit to, to relax that


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[Assistant] You know, culture of, I just gotta be the last man standing here in the office and then maybe I'll get a better job because the coach will see me here so late.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a lot to pick from. And just, you know, full transparency. I tried to stay away in a lot of the cases from the top guys. Like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, no crap. I like CD Lambda, the Dallas Cowboys. You know, yeah, I liked Henry Ruggs, the Oakland Raiders, certainly. But I'm looking for a little bit of, like, guys that I thought were off the beaten path.


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[Assistant] And didn't just get as much credit through the process as they thought and maybe the value of where they're picked too. So the one that comes right off the bat to me is Pittsburgh with Chase Claypool.


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[Assistant] That in the second round, you know, I mean, we both know we're huge fans of Chase Claypool. I think he's got a chance to be Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall, that type of talent. And the Pittsburgh Steelers have a keen eye for recruiting and figuring out value type wide receivers.


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[Assistant] Throughout, you know, Kevin Colbert's history. So that to me, uh, is one that really jumps out. Probably my favorite one.


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[Assistant] You know, for him to go, what was that? Pick 17 in the second round. I think right off the bat, he's going to be the number two receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers and really have a chance, I think is talented enough to be that go-to guy and maybe even challenge a Judas Smith Schuster to be the number one receiver for Big Ben.


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[Assistant] You know, like, you know, T Higgins, he's still young, he's raw. I think he's gonna continue to grow and get stronger. I mean, if you look at him, and I mean this by no disrespect,


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[Assistant] Who's amazing at throwing 50, 50 balls or back shoulder balls to these type of players. I just thought not only was I a big fan of T Higgins and what he is and what he can be, but I thought it fit well with the way Joe Burrow plays the quarterback position too. And it's something to build on. So I love that pick too.


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[Assistant] No, it's Monday and I feel worse about it because I went, damn, they had two extra days to get a receiver. They had six more rounds to do something.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm bothered by their draft. I don't know. There's no other way to say that. You know, really, listen, I like AJ Dillon. He's another guy that you and I got to see in person this year when Notre Dame played Boston College.


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[Assistant] We didn't address wide receiver pass catchers for Aaron Rodgers. Oh, don't worry, Aaron. You just keep carrying the team. No, no problem. And you know, again, I'll say the same thing that I said on Friday about the defense too. You know, I, it's almost like, all right, so here's two things.


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[Assistant] It's almost like the Packers are like, oh, we were in the final four. We're only a player away. No, no, no, no. Bullshit. You're not a player away.


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[Assistant] That bothers me. Okay, you never address that. You don't have a bad taste in your mouth about the way the 49ers, the 49ers could have ran for 500 yards in that game if they wanted. I mean, they just took their foot off the gas pedal because it was an ass whooping. Yeaah. Two games. Two games.


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[Assistant] So I, I don't understand it. And this is the question I pose to you, Paul. Do you think...


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[Assistant] Chiefs was Aaron Rodgers magic show making like unbelievable rabbit out of his ass type throws in that football game. And then of course the playoff game. They're not in the NSC championship game if it isn't for Aaron Rodgers just making throws where we go.


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[Assistant] Man, there's only two or three other guys in the league that could do that. So that's where it bothers me. You know I like Aaron Rodgers, but I also am just bothered by the thought process of the Green Bay Packers in general, even without the Aaron Rodgers subject.


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[Assistant] Vic Fangio is one of the best minds in the game. You got Bradley Chubb, Bond Miller, Jarrell Casey, a bunch of other kind of role-player defense alignment that are very good, uh, that are kind of coming up the ranks. Whether that be Shelby Harris, or they got a kid from Ohio State they drafted a few years back. Who's a contributor?


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[Assistant] Holy weaponry in Denver. I mean, Denver decided to just go, not just we're going to improve the offense, but damn, we're going to get like some real artillery here and be in the conversation for one of the most explosive offenses in football.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, I think there's something to that, and I think two of them, you know, to what we said too, with like, the, the Broncos and the Chargers, they really got their defense in place.


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[Assistant] Right? So I think offense was a true area of need. I don't know if it was necessarily like, hey, let's just go out, we're gonna, let's try to win shootouts against, you know, Patrick Mahomes and company. I don't know if that's really realistic to even think that. But regardless,


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[Assistant] You know, that maybe 50% of the time, the defense can keep it at a manageable level, but I think you're going to go other games where Denver, you're going to be like, Hey, you're locked.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you're going to have to score 34 today. Hey, Justin Herbert or Derek Carr, we're going to have to score 30 something to win this game. They're hot today. They're going. So, uh, I understand the thought process and, uh, yeah, I thought the AFC West had a good draft just in general.


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[Assistant] But pick number 10, Majedrick Wills, Alabama, you know, to the Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] One is my favorite pick, because you know that was my favorite tackle in the draft. But two, you know, Paul, I think you and I are on the same page, like you brought it up with the Tennessee Titans on Friday. There was a plan. There's something about, this is going to be our identity. They got Jack Conklin and free agency.


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[Assistant] They needed another tackle to help Odell Beckham Jr. and Jarvis Landry and Nick Chubb and Baker Mayfield. So to me, they went from having like, whoa, it's a good offensive line with Jack Concombe being signed to now it's like, whoa.


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[Assistant] This offensive line, we better watch out for this. Let's put a little star next to the Cleveland Browns offensive line because when all said and done, they might be in that conversation for one of the five best offensive lines of the game.


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[Assistant] I think the ones that jump out to me, the first one would be James Morgan, the Jets pick in the fourth round. That would probably be the guy that I liked a lot, okay?


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[Assistant] You know, I had my top five quarterbacks, right? Where I had Tua number three, Jordan Love four. I had Easton from Washington five. You see he slipped in the draft and, you know, the off the field reports on, on Jacob Easton are not flattering at all. Uh, but that's really the biggest reason.


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[Assistant] You know, I looked at James Morgan, to me was that next group down of guys where I went, this guy has a chance.


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[Assistant] You know, again, I'm not into like mid-round and late-round picks where, oh, he's gonna be good in the quarterback room. He'll know the playbook.


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[Assistant] Morgan has a chance to be something, Paul. There is like a big time arm here.


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[Assistant] And the Jets have a backup need. They have David Fails there, and I wouldn't trust that. Morgan has a chance to be one of those guys where, yes, a good backup, but also one of those guys three, four years from now, we'd go, hey, maybe James Morgan's a starting quarterback in the NFL. And that's where I like that pick at the quarterback position.


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[Assistant] Well, listen, I like a lot about Jalen Hurts.


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[Assistant] When people just talk about him, oh, as a quarterback, I want to go, no, he's not a first or second round pick if you're just going to play him at the quarterback position. And this is not about the quarterback position for the Philadelphia Eagles. I think they picked this guy for yes.


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[Assistant] Hopefully he can be our backup quarterback in two years, right? They got Nate Sudfeld right now. I think if Carson Wentz got hurt in week three, Nate Sudfeld will be the guy that comes in.


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[Assistant] But they're gonna use Jalen Hurts, you know, in a Taysom Hill capacity. I think you're gonna see him moved around, a slot receiver. He might line up to Carson Wentz as a running back in the backfield on some plays. Hey, here's a toss sweep, go. Here's a toss sweep. Now, don't run it, throw a ball down the field.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I would have rather say, let's draft another receiver. I mean, they, you know, again, they talked about Carson Wentz and giving them weapons. And I know they tipped Jalen Rieger in the first round, which, I mean, it's consensus. Nobody would have picked them at 21 except the Eagles.


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[Assistant] He's got a below average arm. He's a below average athlete. The accuracy is about average. So, you know, again, we have to just get out of this mold of, oh my gosh, this team was good, so the quarterback must have been good too. No. You know, Gina Toretta was nothing special.


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[Assistant] You know, uhm, let me see, Ken Dorsey, he, he was, shouldn't even have been in the NFL, but he got in there cause he was on a college All-Star team. You know, and then you can go into Matt Liner and Tim Tebow and people that were overdrafted and why were they overdrafted? Oh, that's right. They were on teams with NFL All-Star teams as well.


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[Assistant] You know, for Jake Fromm and everything. I like the pic of the Bills taking Jake Fromm there. What was it, the end of the fifth round?


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[Assistant] He probably will get replaced by a Jake Fromm, who he'll have on a very manageable rookie contract. And, you know, Fromm has experienced and has played. So from that standpoint, he does make sense as a backup quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, I look at that. And then, you know, again, this is another topic that bothers me because I hear a lot of people go, well, Marlon Mac ran for a thousand yards last year and Devin Singletary for the Buffalo Bills, you know, rushed for 700 yards and looked good.


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[Assistant] You know, again, it's not about what the number says at the bottom line. It's about what was there to be had.


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[Assistant] And I saw so many runs last year with Marlon Mack where I went, that was a 15 yard gain, but the top 10 running backs in football would have got 30 yards.


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[Assistant] So, we can't always just go, oh, look at the yards, thousand yards, he's a starter, we don't need that. Jonathan Taylor special, he's 230 pounds.


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[Assistant] He'll be one of the fastest running backs in football from get go. If he sees a crack or a hole behind the blue wall of the Indianapolis Colts offensive line, I just think that's a great combination. They're creative in the run game and I think that has a chance to be explosive this year.


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[Assistant] I'm not crazy about DeAndre Swift of Detroit. You know, first off, they have Tarion Johnson, who's like,


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[Assistant] The same guy in a lot of ways is DeAndre Swift, except I just want to go, he's a better running back. So I don't, I didn't know there was a desperate need at the position there. Alright, so I don't love the pick. I like DeAndre Swift.


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[Assistant] I think my favorite one though, okay, well just because of the combination of the team, and you've heard me talk about this player, is the little Devon of CSC from UCLA. You know, I think...


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[Assistant] You could make the argument is every bit as talented or not, if not more talented than Colt Comet. Now there's some off the field things that I don't really know what it is. I know he transferred him to Michigan and went to UCLA and I don't know. There might be a few other things I'm not aware of, but either way to go


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[Assistant] Uh, and they have a pocket passing young quarterback where it's very nice to have that big target over the middle of the field. That was my favorite tight end pick of this draft.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, definitely. I think, you know, the great thing about what you're saying there too, the Saints, Paul, and I think you make great points, that they got Drew in mind.


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[Assistant] Terrell Lewis in round three from Alabama, who went to the Los Angeles Rams. Yeah. You know, and again, Terrell Lewis, his grade.


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[Assistant] I love him as a potential superstar. I mean, I think at the very worst, he's going to be a really good football player, but I think that's the one that jumps out to me more than any is the fact that the Rams who have a very sneaky, talented, good D line right now, anybody out there.


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[Assistant] I mean, holy crap. Holy crap. And then to add this freak to the mix. I mean, this, that could be some scary front seven, uh, the Los Angeles Rams this year.


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[Assistant] Yes, well, there was a lot of quality football players, you know.


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[Assistant] People, we talk to Seahawks with Darrell, Darrell Taylor from Tennessee. I mean, grown man.


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[Assistant] But also has that type of ability out there. Man, I love that. And then...


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[Assistant] I thought I was going to be talking about the Raiders coordinator, uh, uh, Damon Arnett as one of these guys that are like, man, they got some player in the second round. I don't love it as much at pick 19. I thought we'd be talking about him, but I think the first one is Christian Fulton to the Tennessee Titans at the end of the second round.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I think you talk to some people. I know I love this kid at the draft process. He's a true island corner. This is a defense that struggled in past defense last year. And I think he has some nickel and outside versatility wherever they need him to play here in year one. I think they'll be fine. That was probably my favorite.


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[Assistant] That was gonna be my next one. That's my honorable mention. You know, yes, they lost Byron Jones.


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[Assistant] And now, whoa, you get another starting outside corner in round two. You know, I think a lot of guy, a lot of people in football had him somewhere between 25 and 40 in the draft. He ends up out of the first round, but size, unbelievable strength and jam at the line of scrimmage. And then Paul, I know we talked about this. Hey, step on digs brother and.


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[Assistant] He's gonna catch it. He's like his brother that way. So yes, the Cowboys absolutely killed it with that pick right there.


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[Assistant] Well, I had Duggar as one of my top five safeties in the draft. I put him number four only because I was chicken crap, Paul, because I just went, damn.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure about the level of competition. You know, this is one of those guys that you'd really like to see in person a little bit just to go, okay, you know, he looks like a giant and that type of football and looks really gifted.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's warranted of a top 40 pick. And we know New England likes those kind of guys, right? Oh, you're going to play Travis Kelce in the playoffs?


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[Assistant] You got Dugger to ca- cover him. You know, he's gonna be great linebacker, strong safety, be able to match up with big receivers or big tight ends and be a pain in the ass for them. That's where the true beauty of this pick is for New England.


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[Assistant] You know, who the hell are these guys are unbelievable. I mean, just to be that size and move the way they move.


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[Assistant] Unbelievable. Alright, there's two that jump out. My first one is Neville Gallimore from Oklahoma. The fact that the Dallas Cowboys got him in round three. I had some arguments about this guy with some friends of mine in the NFL, Paul, like some true arguments because


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[Assistant] So he's special that way and I know I had some defensive coach friends and people were, they really docked them because


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[Assistant] You know, what I would say was more scheme related stuff from Oklahoma rather than evaluating the player. Oklahoma loves to do stunts and slants.


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[Assistant] And, hey, you're in this gap, but we want you to run full speed, two gaps over, and be the one that stops that gap. Well, that's nice, but, you know, people are, when you're running over there, are blocking down or pulling or pushing you, and you can't always just stop in the gap with a 310 pound guy on your back.


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[Assistant] As you ran there full speed. Like, nobody can do that. I don't think the Hulk can do that. I'm not sure. I'd have to check.


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[Assistant] You know, I got a lot of people going, he's got first round traits, he's got first round talent. And then I kind of got into the defensive coach I, I text with a lot who was a little bit like, you know, he's not great at gap integrity and keeping his gap. And that's where I kind of got in that text message, text message feud there.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, we'll see. Only time will tell whether I'll be right or nameless defensive


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, I love the Kenneth Murray pic.


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[Assistant] By the Los Angeles Chargers. You know, one, I'm gonna give it some extra value cause they get a quarterback, let's pick number six.


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[Assistant] But then make a big time move to trade back up into the first round, I believe with the Patriots at the time.


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[Assistant] Get a difference making player for your defense to where now I go, whoa.


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[Assistant] Like watch out for this defense this year. Like I was already going like.


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[Assistant] Well, the Chargers defense could be one of the best in football. Now I'm going, whoa, it will be one of the best in football. It's just going to be, is it the best or the second best or the third best? I mean, that's really what it's come down to to me. Wow. But Murray, yeah, you know, Murray to be 242 and move the way he does.


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[Assistant] And the biggest thing to me, Paul, and I'm always scared of Big 12 linebackers because it's a seven on seven conference.


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[Assistant] This guy, he's an SEC mentality. He liked getting in the nitty gritty and, oh, pulling guards, let me smash you. Oh, you know, I'll take on, I'll fill this gap and take on the fullback or do whatever he's going to do. He's got a true physicality to his game. This is not just some pretty athlete running around. And I think in that scheme,


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[Assistant] That's the Seattle Seahawks scheme there. This is gonna be their Bobby Wagner. And man, when you just look at that Chargers defense, those two pass rushers.


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[Assistant] I, I, I do too. I mean, yea, we, we've gotten to see Tranquil so much in person. He just, he does everything well. He understands the game.


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[Assistant] You know, they'll find whether he's the starting linebacker in the right base defense. Hey, I don't know, but he's going to have plenty of snaps because of his versatility and his ability to match up and certain personnel sets with the opposing offense. And then Paul, I mean, we get into Casey Hayward.


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[Assistant] Well, number one, I'm gonna go to Baltimore. You know, I think anytime you start going through this draft and you start going,


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[Assistant] Whoa. You know, it looks like they hit on three players.


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[Assistant] But just where I say hit, I mean, guys that I saw like special talent and now with the scheme and team itself, it's the right fit. That's what I mean by hitting on a draft pick. And when you see three by one in one draft,


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[Assistant] You go, mm, that team had a good draft. When you start to see four and five, you go, holy cow, they killed it. And Baltimore killed it to me. I mean, the fact that you talked about Patrick Queen, the linebacker from LSU.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, Maru Buque, the defensive tackle from Texas A&M. I mean, Baltimore, nobody is better at collecting the biggest, baddest,


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[Assistant] Dude's on the planet in Baltimore on a yearly basis. It's unbelievable. And then get my, one of my receivers from Devin, Devin Duvernay from Texas, who's built like a running back and he's going to be tough over the middle and speed sweeps and things like that. He ran 439. So now you got him and Hollywood Brown on the field. And then Malik Harrison, who I love.