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[Assistant] That we would honor our commitment to them as a people and as a nation and think about the girls and going to school and the children and


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[Assistant] You know, I think that, uh, the karma is gonna come home and it's gonna haunt this nation. You know, I think, I look at my little children, I got, you know, my fifth kid about to be born, and I think about, what does 50 years look like? Right? 50 years.


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[Assistant] It's going to come home. It's going to come home to us and you could see the hurt. And you know what? These guys, I'm sitting there eating dinner with them. I'm eating the foot bread. I'm sitting in there. Of course I'm waiting for somebody to come out and stab like a antenna in the side of my head. I'm like, I cannot believe I'm in this situation, but I share these pictures. I'm like.


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[Assistant] I'm like, I can't, first of all, they're in like abject poverty, right? They're like in these refugee camps where it's like no wheels on the vehicles, shit everywhere.


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[Assistant] And like, here, here you go, thanks for helping us out. And uhm, you know, I just, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, I have a heart, I have a heart for people. That's my life. My life is people. And I see that hurt, whether they're, you know, Afghani or American or whatever. Um, I see the hurt because it adds the global collective, you know, and you can, everybody can feel it. They can feel the whole world changing right now.


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[Assistant] And, you know, I think that hammer is gonna come home. I think it's gonna hit us right in the face. You know?


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[Assistant] I was, I was every 60 days to 90 days, depending on where I was and what I was doing. Sometimes I get extended or whatever. Um, and that's about all you could take of that job before you just got completely burned out.


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[Assistant] You don't. You don't. I never get out of that zone. I would come home, uh, and be...


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[Assistant] I was so intense. You know, I was a, I was an intense person. And I didn't have, I wasn't on Facebook, I didn't, I'm not.


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[Assistant] I didn't live that, my whole life was isolated. I have like the same friends, like the same people, you know, the same job. I didn't like, I wasn't out there. I would come home.


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[Assistant] And I would be very distracted like I, because I always knew that I had to like leave again. And then in, um, in 2014, I was in a.


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[Assistant] Really significant ordeal. Uhm, I would say it was like up there in my top.


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[Assistant] Two or three events I had in my, you know, military, paramilitary career was, uh.


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[Assistant] Actually, I would say it's probably the top, like it was the most insane gunfire and combat and carnage that had ever been involved in. And uhm, you know, that's when I kind of was like enough was enough for me. I had had enough at that point, you know, so uhm, and that's kind of when


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[Assistant] My whole world fell apart. Really. Because I didn't have that anchor anymore. And that, that, that had become my identity. Like, when that identity went away, you know, I was kind of left spiraled with all these experiences and skills and things and now I had no mission, no purpose, like, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, you're a gun for hire and there's no community. It's not like I come home and I'm like with the team. I'm with all my buddies. I'm in my platoon. I got the people, I got the things, I got this culture.


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[Assistant] I show up and I'm with different people from different units. I got two guys here and a green beret here and a, you know, a CCG guy here, you know, and you become friends and you, yeah, there is a brotherhood, but then I may never see those. I'm going to have to work with them again.


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[Assistant] I may be over here, you know, so that, so when you go home, it's kind of just like, oh, you're just like, you just get on the airplane. I mean.


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[Assistant] When I came home, I flew through DC. I still had like, you know, pieces of concrete, like, you know, I was still banged up, like, and I just like arrive home at the airport, like, and then that's just it. There's no, nobody calls and says like, you okay? Like what's going on? Like, how's the family? Like nothing. You're just.


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[Assistant] I'm living in a rural area by myself with my wife and kids and I'm, you know, there's, I, you feel like you have nobody.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeaah, I mean, I didn't like tell her stuff, but she could just tell. Um, matter of fact, when I left and I, and I resigned, I, um, and there was a lot of reasons for that, but, um,


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[Assistant] I remember my, my daughter, my middle daughter said to me, Mom always sits in the car and cries everyday and by herself. And I was like, and I was like,


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[Assistant] About what? You know, like, so like I went over there and I was like, why are you crying in the car? Like, what's going on? And she's like, you're just, you're so intense. Like, and I didn't say anything.


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[Assistant] I mean I wasn't like chatting it up, but I just radiated a form of intensity, like at any minute I'm ready to go. And...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, if it wasn't for horses and what I'm doing right now, I'm probably, I don't know. I look at the state of veterans today and I don't think that people understand.


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[Assistant] It's the severity of what's happening to our culture, especially like kind of where we come from, you know, and my, my, my career is a, just a fraction of, of you, of you living a lifetime in that, you know, and, uh,


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[Assistant] But it has a huge impact on you long term and we forget about those people. And like I was kind of rattling off some of the statistics, like, I mean, if you look at,


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[Assistant] Having 50,000 nonprofits in North America for vets. 50,000. Between 2012 and the end of 2020, we spent 92 billion dollars.


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[Assistant] All right. The top five nonprofits for veterans have billions of dollars. All right. There's organizations in those top five that, you know, spend 29, $28 million last year on postage stamps.


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[Assistant] Alright, 18 million dollars on TV ads, right? The addiction rate of what I see of guys coming and applying to my program a couple hundred a year, I can only look at those hard numbers, right? But 75% of those guys are on at least two.


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[Assistant] My maximum guy had come to Heroes and Horses was on 13 medications. Last year we had a guy come.


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[Assistant] On 11 medications come off all and lose 37 pounds in 41 days in the program, right? Nobody cares about, nobody looks at any of those kind of things, the joblessness, the suicide, and then there's a conversation about


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[Assistant] Living and being alive. We say, oh, this is a success story because he didn't kill himself and I, and I've looked at guys and I told them, you're, you're, you're dead. You're already dead.


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[Assistant] You haven't pulled the trigger, but you're dead. You're not living any form of life. And, you know, if it wasn't, if I didn't happen to fall into, I guess you could say, or, or be directed, I guess, serendipitously or, you know, um,


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't know. I don't know because I was, uh...


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[Assistant] I was just, I was so wrapped up in anger, you know, and I felt alone in the world because it's not like you don't have anybody around you. You're just, you're just done, you know, and you realize like, you're just, uh, you're just a number.


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[Assistant] You are literally, if the tool breaks, they throw the tool away. You never hear these stories. I could tell you stories about guys that have been shot and busted. They're, you know, crippled and they're, they can't even pay their bills. They're living in a one room shack and you know, trying to get medical payments.


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[Assistant] Contractors like it's, um, and then tie that into their military career and it just becomes this caustic cocktail. And, uh, that's why I've dedicated my life to this because I think that there's something special, whether no matter what you did in the military that.


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[Assistant] You went and signed up knowing that you could die in a time of war because you believed in something. And I think people will think that means fighting for the government, but I think it means fighting for your country and fighting for what is good.


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[Assistant] And somewhere when that gets lost and gets twisted, I think the whole person loses their anchor point and they spiral out of control. And yeaah, I mean I...


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[Assistant] Yeah, so that's why today the program that I run is, it's so intensive and.


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[Assistant] No, well yeah, kind of, I guess. I left because I remember I was, I got home on Christmas Eve and I was like putting together all this like, my wife picks me up from the airport and I remember I'm driving, she's driving. Are you living on the east coast at this point? No, I'm living in Montana. Oh, okay. And uh, it's snowing out and she's driving and she just starts like hysterically crying.


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[Assistant] What's your problem? And she's like, are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, I'm fine. And she's like, I just like, I can feel your energy coming off of you. You're like a furnace right now. I was like, fine. Like, and she's like, okay, like, well, we got to like, you know, put the Christmas stuff together and I got extended. So I'd been on like a long trip.


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[Assistant] So Christmas Eve, I go back and I remember I'm like, it was the frozen, the frozen thing. You want to talk about freaking snapping? Like I had the frozen car, like I'm trying to put the wheels on like, and I remember I was shaking so bad and I was like, I was just so in my head.


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[Assistant] Because, you know, after that, we had, you know, some things happened. We got chased, the suicide bomb went off and all these like things that happened. And I remember like, I just couldn't, I couldn't down regulate.


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[Assistant] I mean, I just couldn't down-regulate. Even just driving in the car, I felt like I was there, like everything was happening around me.


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[Assistant] It is and, uh, it's, it's, it's crazy that the amount of work that's carried out by contractors around the world. I don't think people understand the scope of it, especially when it pertains to like, you know, the DIA, the NSA, the CIA, like, you know, these institutions that use contractors.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's a, it's a tough transition for sure. And, uh, I happened to, uh, you know, for me, like going back to work, you know, I started working on a ranch, I met some guys and so I would kind of like immerse myself in that.


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[Assistant] I'm in Montana and I'm like, and I remember I was trying to put


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[Assistant] I couldn't focus to like even put the wheels on the thing. I was just so, and I remember like,


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[Assistant] The waist! Like, a dolphin's gonna eat that. So we're like, uh, you know, and I remember I'm like trying to cook breakfast that morning. I've been up now for, I don't know, probably 48 hours or something.


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[Assistant] And I remember cooking breakfast and looking out the window and I was like, my wife came over and kinda put her arm on me. You know, I'm trying to like, be happy and everything, but.


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[Assistant] I just looked at her, I was like, I'm just like, I need some more time home. You know? So I emailed and said, hey, like I need some time home. And obviously like this huge thing happened and it was huge and like, you know,


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[Assistant] The highest levels were involved and came overseas, like, uh, so like, it's not like, you know, they didn't know or anything. And, uh, and they're like, well, we like need you to go back, like, you know, take this team, blah, blah, blah. And if you don't come back, we're going to dock your pet.


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[Assistant] And that's when I was like, back to like my Master Chief story, you know, I was like, like, and, uh, and I was just, I was just done. I really wasn't sure. I had, I had started, um, you know, I'd started my foundation, uh, and, and so then I did a film called 180 hours.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, and that's evolved significantly to what it is today.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So then I ended up in 2015 running my first season, which was like come out for two weeks, go home, come out for two weeks, go home. And so I did a film with Yeti called 180 out. Um, and I had met a guy.


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[Assistant] Strangely enough, my wife had this like mommy's workout thing. I watched a video. He's a big hunter, uh, Mark Seacat and, uh, he was like sick. Cause main guy yet he's being guy, big archery. He wrote it. He made a video called searching for West and it's about him being this prolific archer and how his son's born and he's kind of like.


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[Assistant] Thinking about why he, he should be there with him. And you know, so I watched this video overseas with a bunch of guys and he's like, Oh, this guy lives in Bozeman. So I send the video to my wife. She launches this like mommy's workout thing and his wife comes.


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[Assistant] And strangely enough, like, so I was like, this is the guy from the video. Like this is the hunting guy. And so we ended up like meeting and he goes, Hey, I want to do a video on you.


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[Assistant] Uh, a Yeti video, and he was making all the Yeti videos at the time, like, a bunch of them. And so, uh, initially it was about me, like, being an archery elk hunter or whatever.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and then he got to know me and he's like, Hey, I want to like do it on your standing up this foundation on your first season. And that first season was.


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[Assistant] I don't know how that year didn't kill me, honestly. Uh, I mean it was one of the, it was probably the hardest year I've had in my entire life.


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[Assistant] I got to, you know, I bought my house basically broke, no paycheck. I started trimming trees for a guy. I'm like working on the side, like, you know, my relationship was like touch and go. I was, you know, started shooing horses. I'm trying to bring these vets out. I'm self-funding everything.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I am basically down to, you know, a few thousand dollars in the bank account.


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[Assistant] And uh, I ended up meeting a gentleman that over, over a beer, totally randomly for a friend of mine that gave me a $25,000 check.


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[Assistant] And before he gives me the check and I was 24,500 in debt, but the nonprofit and I never met this guy before. I'm on my way to Wyoming to shoot for national geographic. And I got a huge fight. I'm charging up my credit cards, nonprofit. You're supposed to raise money. The people donate, then you use that money to do good.


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[Assistant] I didn't really know anything about that. So I started a nonprofit and started putting my own money into the nonprofit going broke.


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[Assistant] I missed that page. Uh, so I'll never forget it. This guy comes, I got horses on the trailer. I'm heading into Wyoming to shoot for national geographic packing some guys, but he calls me up. Oh, stop and get a beer with this guy. I'm like, I can't, I'm just, I'm like a lot of problems right now. And I couldn't pay for the vets to come back. So I had all these vets supposed to come back.


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[Assistant] Last words I have my wife was like, I'm doing this and I'm charging up the cars and I'm going to finish what I started. I don't care what it costs. I don't care if we sink the whole family. I'm doing this. I'm finishing this. So on my way to Wyoming, my buddy's like, Hey dude, it's Marie. And he's like, let's get to be here with this guy.


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[Assistant] And I, and I refuse, refuse. He keeps persistently calling me. So finally I stopped. I grabbed one beer with the guy. I sit there. I kind of talked for like, I don't know, 45 minutes. I was like, I gotta get going. He's like, can I talk to you outside? So I go outside and he looks at me and he goes.


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[Assistant] Like how dare you, but he was right. I was, I didn't know what I was. I didn't know anything. And he hands me a check and he goes, I want you to call me. I like what you're trying to do. So it gives me, it gives me a check. I drive down the road. I look at it for 25 grand.


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[Assistant] And that's when I knew I was doing the right thing. And so, um, you know, I think like initially looking back, I think really I was like trying to find a way to help myself, you know, and, um,


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[Assistant] Because I, I, I felt so lost. You know, I just, I felt lost. I had no purpose. I had no mission. Um, you know, and working with horses and shoeing horses and just that world just took me.


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[Assistant] Out of where the focus was all on myself and my focus became on managing these animals and learning about them and learning and learning about myself through the animal. Um, I didn't really know that then because my, my, the guys that I was with.


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[Assistant] Or force, fear, and repetition. You know, they were old school cowboys putting me on horse eyes and getting bucked off and kicked and all those things and whiskey drinking and that was perfect for me at the time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but, you know, through that relationship over the years, horses became a mirror reflection to who I was, you know, because they're a, they're a prey animal, uhm, and they're designed to stay away from things with eyes in front of their head, you know, they're, they're instinctually, uhm,


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[Assistant] And, um, but instinctually they're highly evolved. And so, um, you know, I brought these guys out, I finish out the season with them. I start the next season, I start getting some fundraising behind me. I have the first class, a guy leaves the two weeks, goes home at ODs and dies, uh, army officer.


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[Assistant] And so then I extended the program to realize I still have this letter I wrote the class. And so, um, I extended and today the program is now 41 days long. I'll kind of skip ahead to that. But, um, what I realized is that it's actually struggle that gives everything in life value.


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[Assistant] And so everything designed for veterans is designed to take the struggle away. Like people that wanted to help me wanted to take the struggle away when it was the re-engaging in the struggle that helped me reestablish a foundation and who I am as a person and who I was. And I really just became an identity.


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[Assistant] I lost a baseline to that connection with myself and, you know, so many times a job is what you do, but a purpose is how you live your life. And so when that job went away, I didn't have that purpose because I'd never really learned that, you know, um,


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[Assistant] That deeper connection, uh, to, um, something that is, uh, you know, I think that, that, that's what makes us human. I think that, uh, we live inside of our minds and we live a series of ideas and we, we level up through all these things and we get some stuff and we get some things and we get to some places. We achieve some heights.


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[Assistant] But at the end of the day, when it's all said and done, the real question is like, what is it all for?


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[Assistant] What is meaning in life? And I think when those identities fade and people stop waving the flag and nobody really cares that you're in the air force for 20 years and it's, you know, no, nobody cares that you were overseas. Like your kind of life kind of goes on. Everything spirals out of control and you're, the problem is always you. And I think that, um,


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[Assistant] You know, now today, looking at what happens over 41 days, it's really one long continual conversation here with yourself. Who am I as a person? Because you know, the average person I was reading yesterday spends between 15 and 23 years in front of the TV. Okay. All right. Like I started.


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[Assistant] Like I started, I was, I was verifying it this morning because I was like, that is the craziest thing ever. Cause the average person lives, well, let's say 80, 80 years, that's 30,000 days. Right? So if you spend between 15 on the low end or 23 years watching television.


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[Assistant] Then you're not working for 24 hours, right? You have eight hours of sleep every day. And then, you know, ages one to five, what are you doing? You're eating shit off the floor. You're pooping in your pants. You don't know anything. You can't talk, right? You're just like wandering around. People are stuffing you in seats and putting your clothes on you.


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[Assistant] Right. And then they do the same thing to you when you're old. Right. So we've got to knock off a few years at the end where they're putting weird things in you and putting diapers on you and new, you kind of revert back. Right. So how much time do you really have? Well, I was just crunching some rough math. So.


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[Assistant] Between 37 and 38 years, roughly, because you spend, you know, uh, what is it, 419 hours on the toilet, you know, you spend, you know, a year and a half showering, uh, you know, there's all these other things that you look at. I mean, the question is like, what is this all about?


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[Assistant] You can have a success and that success can be the worst thing that ever happened to you. And you can have a failure and that can be the worst thing that ever happened to you. Because the byproducts are the same, they inhibit growth.


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[Assistant] And they, they stop evolution because you have an experience, then you perpetuate that identity associated with that experience and then you live and create your future.


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[Assistant] Human beings are constantly the victim of their own choices and everything in society is saying, no, it's not your choices. It's everything else around you. And so, you know, over 41 days.


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[Assistant] I always say like, I don't have any ideas for you. I'm not advertising come to me and I'm gonna tell you what to do.


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[Assistant] I say come here and I'll put you in a place where you're gonna learn what that is and I'm not gonna judge you for whatever the outcome is because that's your life to live. That's your 37 years that you have.


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[Assistant] I didn't know a lot about non-profits when I started. Matter of fact, I didn't know anything. Uhm, and along the way I've met every crook, liar, and charlatan from here to the Rio Grande. Uhm, because it's a, it's a, people make billions off the backs of other people's pain.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, if you served 10 years in the military, the answer for you is not to float in a tube and eat donuts, like, or, you know, to go to Texas and, you know, shoot a deer that's tied to a tree in front of a corn feeder. Like nothing's more healing than that, right? Like, um, you know, I'm sorry. Like, and people hate me for saying that. My thing is like, you're your own.


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[Assistant] Fuck you. Like, I don't care. Like, because I see it. I see the state of these guys that show up and they are completely fractured and they've been to 15, 16 institutions. They're on this. They've been injected with that. They're on these pills. They're on these psych meds. They're on this Medicaid. They're on this. And I look and I'm like, the pandemic, uh,


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[Assistant] Of suicide in the veterans community can't be understated. And the numbers, like I don't even know if he would ever even be able to find the real numbers. Uhm, really.


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[Assistant] Uh, but it's substantial, you know, and this whole catch thing, you know, 22 a day, like, if you're doing 22 pushups a day for veteran suicide, you're an asshole. Like, 22 push, my kid can do 100, he's 8.


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[Assistant] Okay? Like, at least have some dignity. And then it's like, you know, you're on there filming like, hey guys, vets are killing themselves.


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[Assistant] In such a state of like hyper complexity where everything is integrated, everything is connected that there is no individual ality. There is no original thought. You become an amalgamation of everything that you've heard and been exposed to, but you really do nothing, right? Like the jury's out, like wake up.


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[Assistant] Do hard work, learn about yourself, turn the shit off, like, meditate, like, you know, eat a carrot every now and then, like, and life is gonna be pretty good for you.


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[Assistant] Um, doesn't mean it's going to be easy, but you'll have the built in tools and you'll begin to learn about your higher self. And you know, people can say like, you know, Oh, this is like magic or whatever, but like there is like, I don't care. You're in war. You like, you got the Spidey senses. What is that?


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[Assistant] What is that thing? What is meaning? Right?


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[Assistant] You're all going to face those, those things. And to me, the hero's journey is the journey of learning about yourself and using those tools to overcome the external circumstances that you face. And so.


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[Assistant] Like over the 41 days, like we have, you know, the


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[Assistant] Every guy walks at least 80 miles in the program just to meals. He'll spend 22 days in the wilderness. They won't eat a piece of sugar. They won't eat dairy. They won't eat, they won't have juice.


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[Assistant] They will only eat meat, vegetables, salt, water, and black coffee. And they will learn to meditate. They'll get into an ice tank every single day.


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[Assistant] They will start their day with mindfulness. They'll read books. They'll go through leadership courses. They'll learn to shoe horses, ride horses. They'll learn to see themselves in working with wild Mustangs. They'll be put in very dangerous situations. All of these are just tools to shift focus.


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[Assistant] From a person that is always looking out for answers to a person that is looking in for answers and then using those answers to then change the material world around them with their choices that are authentically theirs. And that's called purpose. And when you start to do that, you're always the dragon that steps out right in front of you.


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[Assistant] Right? The dragon steps out in front of you and then you find out how much you really want it. Because everything is designed today to keep you from knowing what you are. Like, social media doesn't exist if you're not there.


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[Assistant] The internet doesn't exist if you're not there. You are the energy source that feeds your own demise. So, so you give your energy to feed your own destruction and then you complain about the very thing that you're feeding when it's always you.


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[Assistant] That then override you from searching from the real energy source that the people that are aware know of. They know, I need you to feed what I'm building.


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[Assistant] In a gigantic organism, and you will give your energy 40, 50 years of it, and you get your little plaque, thanks for Bob, employee of the month, and, and, and then what? You go down to South Florida and you sit there, and you just wait.


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[Assistant] Your car, you're sitting in the same traffic. Yeah, maybe it's a Ferrari. So what? You're in the same traffic. Eh, maybe you get a little bit of better beef.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe this one was massaged by 50 Japanese ladies or whatever, right? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because then the fear starts to build.


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[Assistant] And then the clock just starts going and next thing you know, what are they doing? They're like, ah, it's too late.


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[Assistant] It's too late. You've missed the meaning of life. You've missed it. And veterans are out there like perpetuating these identities. That's why I don't do like, you know, these guys, they show up and it's just like,


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[Assistant] No one cares about the logistics department and Bagram in 05.


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[Assistant] You know, may or may not have been mortared, right? Like, like think about the numbers. You would think that every veteran is burned and every veteran has been amputated 1500 amputees 0.00026% of veterans have been amputated.


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[Assistant] There's billions of dollars of organizations to help the amputated billions.


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[Assistant] Made of like, wood? Like, that's like 800 bucks, right? But, but, but this is what's happening. We have to get back to where we start developing ourselves, push ourselves away, reunite as a community, and start getting serious about human development.


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[Assistant] And begin giving our energy to things that matter, like our food, our water, our shelter.


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[Assistant] Like, the community around us, doing things that are good, turning off that stuff. Don't spend 23 years of your life in front of the TV.


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[Assistant] We have to change. We have to change our minds. We have to change our bodies. We have to, we have to become the governors of our own perceptions. We're no longer the governors of our own perceptions. Perceptions, they create actions and behaviors and they're being governed by something else in


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[Assistant] You know, my message is that I don't have the answers, but you do. And the jury's out on greatness. It's, it's, it's spattered on walls and caves and books and tablets throughout all of mankind. The jury is out. Know thyself.


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[Assistant] Know thyself. There's a reason why everybody wants your energy because you're building an empire and that empire just turns out that you're its unwitting prisoner and you can walk away and you can let yourself out and you can change.


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[Assistant] You can do it. We can do it. And I'm not gonna sit back and be a participant and watch Generation like, I'm nobody special. I'm nobody of notoriety. I'm not like,


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[Assistant] Alls I do is I believe in the dignity of the human experience. And there's people that have done some really great things throughout all of the history of mankind. And they did it by knowing themselves. And then whatever, you know, we love to watch the brave hearts and we love to watch the patriots and we love to be that person.


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[Assistant] Be that person. It's not about dying when being, being burned at the stake when you're 23. Well, do you spend 23 years of your life watching TV? That's a great 23 years that a guy like William Wallace had. He was able to do that because he understood it something. Giordano Van Bruno, who was burned at the stake by the Catholic church in the 1500s for writing the Pope of


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[Assistant] He, uh, he looked at them when they were gonna burn him at the stake and they cut his tongue out and they nailed it to him over his head and they were getting ready to burn him and they tried to get him to recount, you know, that the...


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[Assistant] Earth revolves around the sun and all these things, you know, that was heresy. And he looked at him and he understood.


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[Assistant] The deeper meaning of life, and he said, it's not, his last words were, it's not I who is afraid, it's you.


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[Assistant] And then they lit the fire. What a badass way to go, you know? Uhm, so I've just dedicated my life to, you know,


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[Assistant] Uhm, get to know some of those medicine men and, uh, you know, that's an ancient tradition that is, uh, 16,000 years old that dates back. And, uh, and you know, they say you go into the womb of the earth and when you come out, you know, uh, you're reborn and it's, it's really like, uh, it's like an insane sauna.


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[Assistant] Uh, that, uh, has chanting and all those other kinds of things. And you, you're in there in the heat and you kind of go, the heat brings you from the kind of physical into the spiritual. And so every guy will pass through those windows. And they'll do a four window ceremony upon graduation. And then, and then people are like, and then what?


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[Assistant] And I'm like, and then go and live your life because now you know, and if you want to go participate in those same things, you can do it, but not ignorantly.


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[Assistant] Because you know, you know that, wow, I'm creating my own experience.


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[Assistant] The whole idea of free will, I believe, is what Project Earth is all about. It's about free will. Well, the experiment in free will is coming to an end.


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[Assistant] Because everybody's been programmed, everyone's, it's coming to an end. And...


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm not gonna let it come to an end in my life. I'm gonna take power of that because free will is powerful. I could get up from this table right now, sell my rental car illegally to a chop shop, and go climb Mount Everest.


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[Assistant] And then they blame life and they're the, they become the victims of this experience. We can change. We can change right now.


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[Assistant] People can change. And in turn, the goodness can be restored. The goodness of this nation. You know, the goodness that made you sign up and say, you know what, I want to fight against evil.


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[Assistant] I wanna stand again. If I lose my limb, if I get burned, if I get, I don't care, I wanna do it.


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[Assistant] And, and return to those values that represent not only us as Americans, but us as human beings. And, you know, that's, that's, that's my message, you know, to the world is like that book right there.


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[Assistant] Wake up and turn around and do 180 degrees from what you're doing and your life will change. You will change. It will change. And it will change for the better. Take that journey. Reject the easiness of life that is being sold because it is a poison and it is a cancer.


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[Assistant] And you will, maybe you'll be rich, maybe you won't be, it doesn't, it won't matter because you will be wealthy in heart and wealthy in mind and wealthy in spirit. You know, and that's uh, you know, that's kind of what I want to share with the world.


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[Assistant] No. No, matter of fact, like, the majority of guys that come have never even seen a, you know, never even ridden a horse before in their life.


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[Assistant] When did you start riding horses? I had one horse growing up. I never, I rode it like a couple times. And uh, that was about my experience. That was it.


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[Assistant] So I ended up meeting some, uh, I was, uh, right before I got out. So this was like 2013. I ended up meeting some cowboys, uh, with horses in the backcountry and I got to know them and they invited me to the, I met him on a hiking. I was just hiking with my daughter and I met him and, uh, that's how I started shooing horses. So I first started shooing horses, the guy, um,


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[Assistant] On a tip and table, so they put them in their huge machine, tip them on their sides. And then I just, my job was to run like the wheel grinder and I was just like helping out. And eventually I started learning how to shoot horses and start Colts and.


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[Assistant] These guys, like I kind of thought initially they were all about like helping vets and all this kind of stuff. They were like the most like crooked human beings I've ever met in my life, like real legit crooks. Uh, you know, cause the equine business is tough, like in the cowboy world and all that kind of stuff. So.


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[Assistant] Every single day, day in and day out. Yeah. I mean, I, uh, like I said, I just crossed my 18th wilderness on a horse, you know? So, uh, I, we have 70 horses today. Um, and I've been breaking and training wild Mustangs for five years now, like straight from the wild. And I always tell people, I'm like, if you like, think you're like a legit tough guy, like you like.


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[Assistant] I will put you in there with a completely wild horse and you're going to find out real quick how tough you are because the horse is immediately going to sense if you're afraid.


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[Assistant] And like I had this, I had this horse two years ago. I never did quite get him. I'll show you a cool picture of him going straight up in the air and I'm on the end of this rope.


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[Assistant] Um, he's the only horse I ever had actually like just straight up attack me. Um, and uh, like attack me. And what would happen was, is that he would like, you know, you get in there and he'd start moving around. And if you even take one step back, they're one step forward.


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[Assistant] Okay, because in the horse world, you know, there is, uh, there is a hierarchy. You know, so there's the alpha male and the alpha female.


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[Assistant] And they lead the herd and then everybody else falls subsequently underneath. So the alpha male runs, roams around, looks for predators, you know, keeps everybody at bay and the mayor's leading them to food and water in the wild. They eat first, they do everything first, and then it slowly goes down. So you're falling somewhere in that horse hierarchy and.


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[Assistant] Alright, they have binocular and minocular vision. They can see out of both eyes completely independently. The right brain and left brain doesn't know.


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[Assistant] So they're looking at something on the left, the right brain has no idea. She's like my ex-girlfriend. And so, but, uh, you know, they, uh, you know, when they put their heads down, they can see almost 360 degrees while they're eating. And, but they can't see four feet in front of their nose and they can't see four feet behind them.


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[Assistant] Um, and horses designed really to do one thing, run. So they have, you know, 50 liters of fluid in their stomach at any given time, which sloshes around this fleet free floating intestinal system.


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[Assistant] So as the horse moves, that fluid sloshes and slaps in the diaphragm, which causes them to go to breathe in. So it's boom, boom. So they're, they're breathing in super hard and, uh, they can't breathe through their mouth. So they breathe through their nose and their noses are flared. So it's like an air ram system.


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[Assistant] And so a horse is designed like, you know, I can be a mile away. I was out in Wyoming. There's wild horses on the horseback. They can feel the vibrations in the ground and you just can see them on your binos. They just whoosh.


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[Assistant] They sense you, right? So they're highly involved at getting away from predators. So now here comes human beings like, hello, I want to ride you. And, and so you have to one become their leader first. So you have to have an ability of self leadership, right? Because they can sense that. And then.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, too, you have to gain their trust and you gain that trust, uh, with that animal, um, by, you know, pressure and release. So applying pressure, that animal releasing that pressure and essentially talking to them, you know, so.


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[Assistant] If you watch me working wild horses, I can, it doesn't really look like I'm doing much, but I'm controlling the direction of that animal because in horse language, whoever moves their feet first loses. So what happens is, especially with the students, when they're first working with wild horses, as the program progresses, it's a couple of days they get with wild animals.


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[Assistant] You'll see the guy, I don't know, 20 year green beret or whatever, horse takes a step towards him, you'll see him take a step back. Well, that horse is like.


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[Assistant] Now you're my bitch and in the next time around, he's on you. Right. Um, and you know, horses are, are, are like people, some are, you know, docile, some are nice, some are psychotic, whatever, in terms of the wild ones. And, um, so yeah, I had this horse and he's.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I get them like finally where I can get them saddled and everything like that. And it takes me like three or four days and I can get hands on them, starting to like pick his feet up. And one day he just came in and he just never was a trusting horse. And I kind of pushed him more than I think he was capable of at the time. And.


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[Assistant] I just, kind of like, he was just there, so I let him like, sulk, or just let him stand there and rest, and it was a pretty rough morning.


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[Assistant] And I turn around and he just like rears back and tries to strike me in the back of my head, you know, and I kind of like fall forward and then he bites me on my back, you know, and kind of throws me to the side or whatever, you know, of course I'm like, can't crawl up the round pen fast enough, you know, like, I mean, that's a large beast and you know, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So we, we adopt them completely wild. Uh, I think 28 of our 70 horses are wild horses. Um, I've been, been, uh, five years ago, I did a film called the 500 mile project where I rode 16 wild Mustangs, um, from New Mexico to Arizona, 760 miles.


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[Assistant] And putting them into long-term holding facilities. And today it's a 60 or $70 million program.


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[Assistant] And the problem's only worsening. They've tried shooting them out of helicopters with birth control and all these kinds of things.


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[Assistant] And so the whole thing is a disaster and adoption doesn't really work either. It works on a small scale, but there's too many being produced to adopt them out.


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[Assistant] Cause they're designed to run away from us. And so, you know, through a series of shoots and sorting things, uh, you know, we pick out what we want out of hundreds of them and then we load them into trailers and we're bringing back and then.


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[Assistant] We start training them and those are the horses that then go into the program.


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[Assistant] So, you know, a horse is a mirror reflection to who you are because a horse is designed at sensing your predatorial instincts.


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[Assistant] You may say, I'm not scared and I, or, or maybe I am going to hurt you because I'm going to be very aggressive with you. And then the animal becomes very afraid of you and you may not be per, you know, portraying that on the outside.


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[Assistant] But on the inside, that's what the horse is looking at. You could look like you're totally calm, but your heart's going 140 beats a minute and the horse feels that. So then he starts thinking.


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[Assistant] What are you gonna do to me? And then they'll test you. Cause where are you gonna be on the hierarchy? And if you watch them in the pens,


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[Assistant] Because what happens is the horse reflects back what you really are. And so people blame the animal.


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[Assistant] But these guys begin to realize, and when they change, their internal compass.


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[Assistant] They might, like, some of my, like, rope horses and my really good horses, like the one, you know, kind of like that video I sent you or whatever, you know, they'll kill themselves. They will run for you until they die. They will run through a fence. They will, they will do anything for you because they trust their leader.


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[Assistant] But a lot of guys initially are just passengers on an animal that hates them because they hate themselves and they're not able to have that internal compass be calibrated. So throughout that relationship and throughout them learning about horses, they're really learning about themselves to the medium of the horse. And so from day one.


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[Assistant] You know, guys apply to the program. It's a really comprehensive, uh, application process.


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[Assistant] All veterans. All veterans. All veterans. Yup. And uh, it's a, it's a, it's a tricky application. You know, most non-profits, you kind of like fill out the thing and it's like, you know, you like pretzels or peanuts, like you're welcome. Like, thanks for.


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[Assistant] This is like gets in your head and then, you know, through that process you get selected, you know, kind of rate guys one to five, you know, we can only take so many guys, you know, we get a couple hundred applications a year.


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[Assistant] And then, uh, and then we send them two books, communicate with them every week, help them lose weight, change their diet. We send them articles on testosterone suppression through SSRIs and medications and all these kinds of unhealthy lifestyle. We help them kind of level up as they're preparing. And then when they arrive, um,


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[Assistant] It's a, you know, kind of indoctrination get in the ice tanks. This is how this works. This is our morning routine. So you wake up, it's a mile walk in the dark off the ranch. Uh, they walked down to the main area. Um, they'll, you know, mobility work with Jim Jones. So they designed our workout program all based, you know, these guys are not trying to get jacked or anything, but they, some of them are like straight off the mission to the kitchen. So.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they, they like, I mean, we have guys that like haven't, I had a guy last year that said he hadn't walked up a flight of stairs in seven years. Right. So now like you're entering into like, you want, I mean, pain.


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[Assistant] I just take the worst of the worst guys. And I put them all together and there's no science to that. Because to me it's like, to get through this you have to work as a team. But it's about the individual.


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[Assistant] You're on your own journey, and you're gonna need other people to help you along the way. But I don't care if they ever talk to those guys again. Uhm, a lot of them maintained some of the closest friendships ever. Uhm, matter of fact, on the way here, some guys, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Canadian Special Operations sent me a guy, and uh, last year, and he, uhm, changed his life. This guy was in a...


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[Assistant] They've maintained relationships with each other, but ultimately it's about the individual because they're on the hero's journey. And the hero's journey is that you have to walk through those flames. You have to go through those fires. You have to feel it. And so.


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[Assistant] 4.30 in the morning, they wake up, they walk a mile down to the main camp, then they intentionally move their bodies, they get done with that, uhm, we do a meditation, uhm, and then they do breath work, the Wim Hof breath holding, and then they get into an ice tank, and then that scales up to, you know, the end, they're sitting there for like 10 minutes.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and that's pretty rough on guys that are like straight off like, and then, and then it's all about horses. And so then in the evening we have what we call the, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Maxim Lab, which is a leadership course based on stoism. So I don't tell them any ideas, I'll present a question. What does it mean, you know, choose to be harmed and you're harmed? Choose not to be harmed and you haven't been. What does that mean? And guys will go around and let them talk things out.


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[Assistant] Throughout the program, they'll do that for 40 days. And then after, uh, after six days, they'll head into the back country for eight days. They are given a horse and a mule.


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[Assistant] Well, at this point, everybody can lope a horse on a dead run. Everybody can, you know, rain control their horse and pack a mule and understands equine medicine, trucks, trailers, all that kind of stuff. Uh, they get all that in six days. So it's very intensive.


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[Assistant] Extremely long days. Uhm, matter of fact, like, there was like a guy, the vet came out and he's like, uhm, like, there's like guys sleeping, like, right next to the horse. I'm like, I know, guys, come on, we're not in the military now, we have to stand up. And, like, uh, but, but.


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[Assistant] So uhm, you know, all ultralight stuff, you know, most of the time I never use a tent. I just sleep out unless it rains. Uhm, and they'll spend eight days. We'll do like around 80 or 90 miles on that trip.


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[Assistant] Then they'll come back and they'll start the next morning, what's called ranch week. So now they're going to learn how to rope. They're going to, we have, you know, cows, they're going to learn how to rope cows, how to do stock management. They're going to learn more advanced riding. They're going to learn, um, how to work on a ranch, how to be in a working ranch. And so that's called ranch week. It's all about ranch stuff.


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[Assistant] Um, they'll drive tractors and they'll learn all these things in different groups throughout, you know, the whole facility. Then a lot of times we'll move, we'll go to another ranch. We'll help them gather and sort and ship cows and do stuff depending on what's going on. So that's ranch week. And then they start, you know, I guess you could say like phase two or something.


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[Assistant] Where there'll, another six days of training. So that training is...


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[Assistant] Well, they'll actually rope live cows and they'll learn how to, you know, how to manage them, how to operate on a working ranch in terms of all the agricultural components and they'll learn more packing and learn how to put, you know, seven, eight, 10 animals at a time, pull them together, how to drive trucks, how to drive trailers, how to do chains, how to run chainsaws, how to run axes, all those kinds of things. And then, uh, and then they'll head into the back country for 11 days. Um, and then that's it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that's a tough trip. Like, it's tough on me, it's tough. Like, you know, 11 or 12 days in the wilderness like that progressively moving wares on you. Um, plus the animals have their own personalities and there's, you know, we run our stock


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[Assistant] So we tie, you know, we hobble them and we turn them loose in the mountains. And so, you know, you gotta get up and you gotta gather in the morning. It's cold, it's snowing in August, you know, all the, all those kinds of challenges. Last year we rode across the wind rivers. We did 120 miles across one river range.


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[Assistant] And that was a brutal trip. It was incredible, but it's just tough. And then, you know, you're shoeing horses, you're constantly where you're building camp, you're cooking everything.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and it's all this, you know, whole food stuff, so guys are...


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[Assistant] It's a tough trip and then they lead every day. So every day a different guy leads. He has the map. He has the routes. He makes all the decisions. I let them fail. I let them fall flat on their face. I let them make mistakes as long as nobody's going to get hurt and let them feel that.


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[Assistant] Take, you know, ownership of all those kinds of, you know, that leadership component and confidence and stuff. And so.


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[Assistant] And then they get back and then when they get back from that trip, obviously everyone's decimated. So the average guy last year lost 20 pounds in the program. Um, our record that last year was, um, 37 pounds in 41 days.


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[Assistant] And uh, yeaah, and then, and then the med count was 11 psych meds. A guy, a guy I walked away from. So uhm, and then of course you have the guys on the onesies and the twosies and stuff.


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[Assistant] So they get back, then we wake them up at one o'clock in the morning. They usually get to bed around 10 that night after because you know, horses come first. So you got to doctor horses, clean horses. You got to do shoes. You got to do all those things and then we'll wake them up, drive them to a mountain, make them climb Sacajawea peak. So 10,000 foot peak in the dark.


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[Assistant] Because the metaphor is that nobody really cares what you've just accomplished because behind every mountain is another mountain. And so we want them to feel that. And in that video, you can see the guy standing on that peak and then one guy's kind of rubbing the other guy in the back, you know, none of that's acting or anything. You know, that was a real emotional moment because they have lived a lifetime.


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[Assistant] And it is real life. It's not like you're coming here and this is fake life and now you're going to leave and go back to real life. It's all real life. There is no fake life, right? It's all real, right? You put the virtual reality goggles on for nine hours. That's real life, right? Right? It does not, time doesn't stop. And so, um,


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[Assistant] They climb that mountain, they come down, pack up all their gear, and then the next day is graduation day, so then they get into the sweat lodge. So they graduate, get into the sweat lodge, uh, they go through that, we do some sound stuff with them.


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[Assistant] And then, uh, we have a year long take home course called Stay The Course where the guys have diet, reading, you know, suggested reading, you know, fitness stuff, access to an app, um, and, uh, kind of like, you know, whole food eating and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and then the guys that want to, we plug them into an internship and then they go for four to six weeks to Alaska, Wyoming, Montana, Utah. They go to work in ranches. They go to cowboy outfits. They go to outfitters in the, you know, in the Yukon.


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[Assistant] They've moved on and I had an interesting guy this year who came straight out of the Marine Corps, basically like weeks and came here and he showed up and he was like straight up like Ranger Rick, you know, you had like the Oakleys on, you know, you had the, like you were like, he's straight. Everything was the military. Everything was the military. When he left, he.


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[Assistant] Had left all his military clothes in a garbage bag, had, you know, cowboy hats, like the whole thing and had essentially he's been worked on it. He's Mexican. I got him. I happened to know a team guy buddy of mine.


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[Assistant] Awesome guy and who works for a guy that has a ranch in Mexico. So he's been ranching in Mexico. Like his whole life is like completely different. I think what would happen if more people got out and immediately took on the next challenge in their life in the face of everything and where would they be today? And you know, that's my overarching goal is that like.


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[Assistant] You know, the sweat lodge is a super powerful thing, and it can be terrifying.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah. Yeah. So, so, so the rocks that they use, they go out and gather the rocks. They're lava rocks. They haven't been heated up since the last, you know, younger, driest impact.


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[Assistant] Uhm, near our last major volcanic eruptions. And, you know, they put them in there and there's a lot of drumming and songs. They honor everything, the water and the earth and all those things.


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[Assistant] And it's called the Anipi Wakhan, which is one of like seven sacred ceremonies. So like the Sundance, which is hanging by your...


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[Assistant] That is, um, attractive. Like there is a balance to them. And, uh, so these guys of course are terrified. You know, everybody's like, you go into this little tiny lodge and you're in there. You can't see your hand in front of your face and it, the heat begins to increase in the songs and.


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[Assistant] They, uhm, you know, they welcome in, you know, all kinds of different things and animal spirits and all that kind of stuff. And when you come out...


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[Assistant] And, uh, so then there's the, then there's the vision quest where you go in there for 24 hours with no food or water alone. Uhm, that's, uh, and then there's the four days, we've had people on our ranch that have gone up there for four days with no food or water by themselves in the mountain and they sit up there.


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[Assistant] No, so that's one of the other rights. So the sweat lodge was banned in North America until 1976. Um, it was illegal.


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[Assistant] Uh, matter of fact, dancing was illegal. Native American dancing was illegal. So when Columbus arrived in the North American continent, there were 60 million natives here. At the start of world war one, there was 800,000 left.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in Buffalo, uhm, almost 60 million had been killed to almost to extinction.


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[Assistant] So those rights were banned and it was illegal. Matter of fact, it was illegal to carry those names unless you're like on a reservation. So there's a real tradition in history. You know, you're not taking psychedelics or anything like that. It's the heat.


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[Assistant] And uh, and it's the prayers and it does change you and it leaves an impact. And the first time I ever did it, I'll tell you right now, I like, I was ready to like,


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[Assistant] Like dig my way out of there. Like I did not like it. Cause your mind's like,


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[Assistant] You know, I've really like, uh, learned, I guess, like,


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[Assistant] In a way that is, uh, you know, my mind, my body, my spirit, like what I eat and who I am in relationship with, who I expose my life to, my energy to, like what I put my intentions towards.


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[Assistant] All these things begin to kind of open up to you as the weeks of your life go on. And, uh, so it's something that we've integrated into the program that's been really effective.


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[Assistant] So like, I had a interesting, I guess you could say, not every time, every time has been different. Not one has been the same. Uh, some have been like incredible, other ones I feel like I just suffered, like, um, they're all different. Um, but I actually had a really interesting thing is that like I was in there and.


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[Assistant] Well, uhm. I think, I'm not sure though. Uh, there's no fire. The rocks are just red, but you can't really see them, then they're in this hole. Uhm, so there's no fire. It's hot rocks. And they keep, and people open the door and bring them in and put them in there. And then they have buffalo horns and they add the water.


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[Assistant] They keep dumping water on it with buffalo horns and they're singing drums and chanting and all that stuff.


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[Assistant] And I saw like a baby in the womb, like in a fetus, and it appeared like over the fire, and I thought like, oh man, like, I'm, like,


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[Assistant] The children, like, are dying or something, I don't know, I had this like thing. And then like a week later, my wife found out she was pregnant. Uhm, and then I instantaneously knew, like, that's what I saw, I knew that I would have another child.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I don't believe that children come from you. I think they pass through you.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, I think they're here for particular times. I think we can become derailed as human beings, uhm, because we, you know, we get enticed, you know, by gross materialism and all these things that detract us from ourselves and then somebody else has got to come along.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, so, so that experience has been powerful, so I added it to the program, and people are always like,


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[Assistant] I'm like nothing. Zero. It's just my own journey. It's all the things that I've done in my life that have helped me, uhm, really become


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[Assistant] And a connection to myself and now that that connection and that link has been restored.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I feel a balance that I've never felt before in my life.


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[Assistant] You know, I always tell people, I'm like, I don't have a retirement, I don't have any...


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[Assistant] I told my kids I'm not paying for your college and I'm not buying you a car. Like I'm not doing any of those things, but I will build an ecosystem here and teach you how to hunt and how to work the land and how to honor the animals and do all those things. And I will support you, but you're going to have to do it yourself. And.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm not going to, if I go tomorrow and they're like, you got cancer. I'm like, okay. I'm going out like Bob Marley. Like I'm just going to be like, all right, cool. You're not poking me and sticking me and doing anything. I'll just like, I'm not, you know, so these experiences have given me a connection.


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[Assistant] It's a, it's a balance that you, when you read about the great warriors, the, the Sun Tzu's and you read the Tao Xing's and you read about the Alexander the Great's and you read about the people that Ulysses and all these great people, there was a balance they had. They were artists. They were calligraphers. They would also kill you in 57 different ways, but not out of anger and not out of hate.


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[Assistant] And they were such a place of balance. And so, you know, my life now is about restoring that balance and then bringing that balance to other people, but I can't do it for you. And over the course of 41 days, you know, it is a, it is, is a conversation. How much.


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[Assistant] More often than not, we fall in love with getting in shape, you know? Uhm, we fall in love with being healthy or we fall in love with, you know, having things or whatever.


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[Assistant] But we don't like the idea of what it takes to get there. You know, we, we don't like that. We, we don't like to feel uncomfortable and, and we have to become comfortable in the uncomfortable. And in turn, the things that are holding you back, they, they dissipate and go away. You know, so that's what the 41 days is about.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. And that's, everybody is trying to tell you how to be, you know, like you go to Tony Rob, you know, I don't want to diss Tony Robbins or anything cause he's like probably able to send assassins after me.


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[Assistant] Tony, you ain't coming there, dude. I dare you. I challenge you, Tony. That's all shout out. Uhm, but, you know, like people get so fired up and they get so amped up and they spend their life watching all this stuff and all these things and going to these things, but they don't actually do anything.


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[Assistant] If you did one tenth of the information that's contained in your brain, you wouldn't be in the situation you're in.


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[Assistant] We just become addicted to getting more information. You know, it's like, you know, 12 steps to purpose. Like, oh man. Like, you're gonna get to the end and it's 12. It's like, woo! But then what does a guy come out with? Nine steps. You're like, oh shit, I gotta get the other book. There's only nine? Like, you know, like now, he's got, he's got, he's got nine more books to write. Uh,


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[Assistant] To me, the jury is out on what it means to really be a human, but we've lost that, we've lost that knowledge.


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[Assistant] In pursuit of a construct that if I, if I get to the end of an idea that never was mine in the first place, I'll achieve some end state, right? I'll retire.


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[Assistant] Or uhm, I'll achieve happiness, you know. Maybe it's a, it used to be in the 80s, you know, become a millionaire.


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[Assistant] Now if you're a millionaire, who gives a shit? A million bucks? Like, I mean, it's like, a million bucks is like nothing nowadays, right? You know, it, it's, what was it? Like there had that spending bill or whatever. And it's like, if you took a $1 trillion and you stacked it on end to end and go a third of the way to the moon. Okay. So 3.5 trillion goes to the moon and part of the way back, right? Like, so, but there, those things like,


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[Assistant] That really matter in life are your food, your water, your shelter, and your relationships in your life.


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[Assistant] Uhm, if you're not in balance with those things, there's no, there's no things in life that are going to help you find a place of completion because eventually you will face the man in the mirror. You will eventually.


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[Assistant] No matter what, you know, no matter how many cars, no matter what it is, like I was using the example of like Warren Buffett was like laying in the desert and dying, like about to die. And I came like walking by with some water and I was like,


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[Assistant] Now he'd be like, like, he'd want it, right? So it puts everything in relative perspective. And the most exciting adventure you can go on is the adventure with yourself.


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[Assistant] That is the most exciting adventure. And then your whole life opens up. We spend our time like,


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[Assistant] And shitty relationships with shitty people afraid to change and jobs that we hate doing things that we don't want to do to get to places that we never wanted to go in the first place. And then we bl- and then they wouldn't- I was using the exam, I'm like, okay.


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[Assistant] If you're depressed, okay, and everyone's like, you know, this for a while, it was like the mental health month and the men, all this mental health stuff was going on like crazy.


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[Assistant] Like, you know, everyone's like, hey guys, mental health month, I'm, you know, skydiving for mental health. Like, I'm, I'm, uh, I'm again, conducting a, uh, boxing clinic, uh, for mental health and bringing awareness to it and, and mental health. So then you're like, I'm depressed. And it's like, okay, I'm depressed. So then you go to the person that's in charge of the construct and they say,


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[Assistant] You don't like your life? Well, I don't know, something's wrong. Well, we're gonna give you some things to get you back to work.


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[Assistant] Okay, we're gonna get you back in love with the very thing that you hate. It's never something is wrong with the thing, the construct itself. It's always something wrong with you.


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[Assistant] So then you're like, okay, so you take the stuff and you feel good for a while and you're full of butterflies and everything's going around, but then it wears off in six months and you go back.


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[Assistant] And then the people tell you, okay, we got to get you back in love. We got to get you back to work. We got to get you back on depressed. It's never about making massive lifestyle changes. Like it's never about throwing the keys away.


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[Assistant] Getting radically committed to yourself. It's always about changing you to get you back in love with the very thing that's causing the depression.


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[Assistant] Right? It's never about like radical change. It's always like, you have a chemical imbalance, so we'll give you some chemicals to get you back in balance. That'll work. By the way, it's 79 bucks a month. And, and so I think that like we have to stop, like we have to pump the brakes, like


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[Assistant] We have to return back to the basics of what it means to be a human and, and, you know, my work with veterans is like, they're basically involved in a socialist system, right? They show up to an institution. It's a one size fits all, right? My greater goal is to create a board of the smart innovators, people.


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[Assistant] That, that, maybe there's a wellness arm, like a FedEx for veterans, right, and the post office doesn't work, where guys can say, you know what, red pill, blue pill, mmm.


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[Assistant] Six weeks in therapy, meds, this, that, counseling for 10 years, all these other things, institutions, meetings or whatever, or, or maybe there's an eight week program I'm going to go to. That'll be the suckiest thing I've ever done in my life. It'll be the true hero's journey. But when I come out the other side, I will have learned what I am.


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[Assistant] And I will take that knowledge and I will begin to change the world around me with my own energy, my own impetus, and my own identity from the inside out. We should give people that opportunity.


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[Assistant] But instead, you know, you show up to these, like you said, these false prophets, that what are they there really, really to do?


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[Assistant] It's like this, so I just went through yesterday with my wife, we like threw out like a shit ton of stuff, right? Because the average American household has over 300,000 items in it. And I walked in there.


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[Assistant] Well, listen, I actually just watched like a thing when I was traveling back from Florida about these like minimalist people or whatever and they, you know, of course went in there and it's like, and I told my wife, so we're down in Florida and what does she want to do? She's like obsessed with the goodwill. We don't buy anything new. Nothing. And the kids, nothing new. Zero. Everything we buy used or, you know, goodwill or whatever.


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[Assistant] Once a week, we're going to target one portion of the house and get rid of stuff. So yesterday we threw a, we are taking to the goodwill. We, I mean, I don't, we took out an entire like Ford expedition full of things.


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[Assistant] And then like we were done at like three o'clock in the afternoon and I looked around and I was like, it doesn't even look like we took anything out. I mean, like how many potato peelers did we have? I was like, we have like nine potato peelers.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile in Ethiopia, I'm like, I'm like, we had so many things, and what do things represent? They're measurements of time.


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[Assistant] They're measurements of time, because you have to have time.


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[Assistant] Expended an energy to get that thing. Right? And so,


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[Assistant] And then I get this thing, and then there's always another thing that you need to get. Well, the attachment for the mixture that goes in the thing that does the pasta, like you know what doing that shit, but like, well, it's an extra 10, you know, we'll add it on there. And so we started going through it and just getting rid of tons of stuff.


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[Assistant] You know, and, and the scariest thing is gonna be like going to my closet, you know, like.


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[Assistant] And, and realizing that, wow, I've spent a lot of time in my life getting these things, and I'm like, never have time. I had a time, and I don't have enough time. What am I doing with my time? I'm using my time to get things that I don't need.


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[Assistant] And so it's like Gandhi was asked the question, what confuses him most about modern man? He said modern man spends all his time to get money, then spends all his money to get his time back.


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[Assistant] That's, I mean, that's pretty profound, right? Like, and, um.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you have to let go. See, it's like, you have, it's, it's the art of like letting go. It's the art of detaching.


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[Assistant] And that's when you go from that kind of physical to spiritual where, where you're no longer holding onto anything and you're just being. And that's when.


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[Assistant] We spend so much time asking and wanting things, but no time listening. Just being still and listening.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, in those places, the, you know, I'm like, you know, your mind's going a million miles an hour and you're like, I gotta get out of here, like all these things, like, ah, this and things are popping up everywhere. I don't know, Betty, I wonder who's Betty, like, all these things are coming, right?


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[Assistant] And, and then all of a sudden when you, when you learn to quiet your mind and be still and begin to listen, the things that you need for your life.


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[Assistant] Out of the nothingness comes to you. I don't know how to explain it scientifically, or like in a lab, or like whatever, but I'm telling you right now.


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[Assistant] The, the, if you look at like Jesus, for instance, right? Like Jesus really like, I mean, Jesus wasn't a religion. Okay. Jesus basically said, love your neighbor as yourself.


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[Assistant] Well, to love yourself, you have to know who self is or you only love the idea of self. So you have to know what yourself is, right? And then the kingdom of God, it's in you.


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[Assistant] Okay? It's actually within you. And then like those leaders of the day is like, by the way, those dudes are liars. And they're gonna kill me.


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[Assistant] But, you know, whatever. So he was a cataclysm, he was a nuclear bomb dropped on culture of the day. Okay, so we think of cataclysm, we think of meteorites or floods or earth fractures or whatever, solar flares.


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[Assistant] But a powerful idea that speaks to the core of who we all are as people is a cataclysm and he was a cataclysm of the day. But his message was simple, right? You have to love what, you have to, you have to love yourself. Well, you have to know who itself is and you have to love yourself. Then you have to love your neighbor the same way, right? And then the kingdom of God is, it's in you. It's, it's in you. So you have to go within.


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[Assistant] And so what does he do? He goes up there and he doesn't have food or water for 40 days, right? And then, you know, they kill him. And then by the way, he comes walking through walls like, by the way, you never die.


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[Assistant] Okay, thanks for the message. Right? I mean, that's the message. Like if you look at it through all about history.


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[Assistant] It's always the same. Know thyself. It's inscribed in the Oracle of Delhi. And every year we have a different saying at Heroes and Horses that's on the beltbuckles that the guys get when they graduate. This coveted beltbuckle.


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[Assistant] And, uh, everyone they have a different saying in this year is gonna, is the saying is know thyself. And, uhm, uh, you know, one year we had think greater than you feel, you know, we have all these other ones.


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[Assistant] But know thyself, and I think that's just gonna kinda stay there forever now. I'm done making up slogans.


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[Assistant] I, I think like, know thyself is a, is a powerful thing, right? And so that is inscribed in gold at the Oracle of Delhi, 1400 BCE. It hasn't, nothing has changed, except for


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[Assistant] Know thyself, I'll caveat that. Or else, other people that actually know what you are will use you to create their own kingdom and enslave you. That's, that's what it is.


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[Assistant] Baseline. You gotta hit the, you gotta hit the bottom of the bowl.


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[Assistant] You know where, where, where the projection doesn't protect you anymore. Listen, you can, you can, you can dress up all day and put on the MMA stuff or whatever. And until, you know, you get freaking spun kicked in the side of your head and then the projection doesn't work anymore. Right. Like, and that, and that's life. We were all, you know, everybody's living some form of projection at some point in their life. And.


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[Assistant] You know, the thing is, is as those projections fade, you become depressed and you become disenfranchised. And the thing is, like, you don't have to be. If you have one job really in your life is to wake up and just be yourself. And then you can't fail.


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[Assistant] It's impossible. Like sure, it doesn't mean I do dumb shit. I do dumb shit. I say things. I'm a second guess myself. Oh shit. I'm gonna call my wife. I should have never said that. She's like honey.


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[Assistant] But then she's like, it doesn't matter because that's just how you are. Just be okay with that. And so you just, if everybody just woke up and just, and just where there's authentic self, the entire world would be a completely different place. Like think about,


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[Assistant] Like, think about filters. Think about a filter on a cell phone, right? You got some like, lady where like, you know, the botox is failing, shit's going down, probably was hot, ex-husbands in Dallas, like, you know, but you know, she's kind of like this, she's kind of droopy, and then, and then she puts the filter on, you're like BOOM!


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[Assistant] Right? In love with a projection of themselves, you know? It's like the worst thing is you see everybody sitting on the bus, and uhm, sitting on the bus, you know, today, and everyone's like, you know, you can see them over there, like, liking, they're like, and they're like this.


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[Assistant] LOL, LOL, like heart, heart, LOL, like happy, smiley face, right? Like, they're the saddest looking people, you know, dudes like, bellies are gross, their mask is on, crooked, you know, their hair is fucked up, they got two cell phones, LOL, LOL, LOL, right? It's all a projection. It's a total projection and so,


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[Assistant] Like, we have to stop being projections and get back to the basics of who we are. But unfortunately, we put projections in these places where we try to


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[Assistant] Be like somebody else rather than being ourselves. And that's destroying the fabric of humanity.


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[Assistant] And, you know, if you look at, you know, you look at Chinese culture, uhm, they're all simulated.


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[Assistant] Everyone's wearing the same clothes, everyone's doing the same things, everyone's serving the same people, they're all born from Chinese mothers, they're all, you know, they all have this...


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[Assistant] They all have this plan in place, this ten thousand year destiny.


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[Assistant] Okay, what are we trying to do? We're trying to like, you know, we're trying to make the rent. You know, we're trying to like, you know, we're trying to pass the bill. You know, we're trying to, you know, you look at these people, well, I don't want that either. That is a nightmare. There is no individuality. Like, what do you exist? You exist to serve the state.


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[Assistant] Well, you exist here in North America to serve the projection.


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[Assistant] They'll think I'm successful. Even though I work at In-N-Out, which I'm not, no dings on In-N-Out.


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[Assistant] And it's so empty because there's never enough. There's always a new thing. There's always another thing. And so your whole life is giving me a projection. And that's why people are quintessentially lost. They are literally have


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[Assistant] Theirself standing next to them in their life and they're completely in the material realm. Everything is material.


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[Assistant] Get the next one, get the next one, so on and so forth. That's why, like, filters and all those things, like, they're cancer because they, they, they are nothing more than a project. You don't look like that. You don't, you're not that way.


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[Assistant] You know, this whole thing on climate change, everything that's happening in the world is like, I think the debate is like, are we causing climate change or are we just destroying the environment? Right? Well, we are 100% destroying the environment. Um, and for what? So you can have like another table.


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[Assistant] Okay, like, or more diamonds, you know, because I love you. And I want you to have this diamond that was mined by children.


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[Assistant] It's, it's this whole bizarre thing where it's like, we don't even care about


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[Assistant] Anything except for enforcing our own projections. So it's like, Hey, maybe we shouldn't like chop down every tree because maybe what I breathe out, the tree breeze in with tree breeze out. I breathe in. Maybe we shouldn't be dumping the chemicals into the rivers. What is that? Almost every river in North America now contains glycophate in it, right? So it's bleeding in from.


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[Assistant] Um, NPK from mass farming and agriculture, the soils dying. I mean, I'm with ranchers. I'm in agriculture people. That's my life. And.


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[Assistant] You, you listen to these old guys kneel down and pick up the soil, dead, right? And where's all this stuff going? Where's all these things going?


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[Assistant] What's happening around us, uh, is that people only care about their own projections and the very things that give them life they're destroying to further something that does only exist fictitiously as an idea.


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[Assistant] And it's a scary time to be living in right now. It's like, you know, here we are, like Ukraine, like Russia, like look out!


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[Assistant] But, you're really concerned about their borders, but like, what about like, our borders?


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[Assistant] Like, aren't those important too? No! Only the ones in Ukraine. Right? And, and it's, it's, you get sold these illusions and, and in turn, we destroy every single thing around us, including ourselves. And if we don't change,


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[Assistant] We are coming into an epoch. We are coming into a time. A real time.


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[Assistant] That we will become unrecognizable to ourselves. And when I see guys coming and they're on 11 medications or on eight medications or been in therapy for 10 years, they're unrecognizable to themselves.


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[Assistant] They are unrecognizable. They look in the mirror. They don't know what they are. They only exist as a projection of an identity.


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[Assistant] Everything is energy. They need you. And I say they, okay, like eh, corporatocracies, governments, whatever it is, marketing companies, data capture people, whatever.


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[Assistant] See, they need your attention and your attention is your energy and that is the impetus for them to grow. But if you're using your own energy,


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[Assistant] Think about like what, have you ever heard of the Milgram experiments? Oh yea. It's crazy right? Yea. What, two thirds of the people killed the person because the guy in the white coat told them to. Right? So, it's already figured out.


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[Assistant] We already understand how to like, corral human beings and to get them to give their attention and focus into developing what, what, whatever it is is vying for your attention needs you. It doesn't exist without you.


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[Assistant] I mean, our founding fathers were pretty smart. We, the people, okay. Um, you know, they understood that there was a power associated with the people, you know, the people United, the people, you know, believing in the goodness and the opportunity that was afforded by this nation. And.


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[Assistant] And, and instead we have fractured ourselves among the most trivial things and then given our energy.


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[Assistant] And then we complain about the very thing that we feed to build.


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[Assistant] We complain about it when we are responsible for paying for the bricks, the prison keepers, the uniforms, everything. And so turn your attention to something else. If you took that same time, you know, between 14 and 23 years watching TV in your life, let's just say take one year.


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[Assistant] Because time is only realized by the experiences that are contained in it.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, I've heard it said like one million years with one event or, or 10 minutes with 50,000 events. Every moment of our life is filled with an, with, with an experience. And so we realize time and time accelerates and we accelerate our own time in life. It's like at the end of the day, you're like,


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[Assistant] Because you realized every moment of that day, and none of it was spent with you. None of it!


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[Assistant] Four meals a day. It's vacation. Consume. Right? And so this built in acceleration that's happening that we feel in the world right now.


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[Assistant] Is cause because all of our energy is directed towards that. And so I think that we can walk away.


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[Assistant] And you know, I've, I've walked away, you know, I kind of started out when I first started this, I didn't know what social media had nothing. I'm like, okay, I'm starting a foundation, like.


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[Assistant] I got to get an Instagram, you know, so I am used to look back at like the Instagram I had and it was like, I didn't, I didn't even know what a hashtag was, you know? Um, I was like, I was like, you know, it was like me like chopping wood and I'm like, do work or something. I had the worst thing, but then it kind of grew and I got to like almost 20,000 people and I was like sharing ideas and then.


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[Assistant] And then I, you know, throughout, you know, my experience of going through the program every season, cause I'm out there doing it, right? I'm not out there like standing there or like, you know.


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[Assistant] I'm living it with the guys. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling the ice. I'm feeling the cold.


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[Assistant] I'm, you know, I'm hitting the ground, I'm riding the colts, I'm like at 10,000, 11,000 feet, I'm building the camp, I'm feeling every moment, I'm in the sweat lodge I'm doing, I'm not like this like, kind of passive participant. I'm there. And then I just realize.


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[Assistant] I have to walk away, like, I have to just do it, so I just...


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[Assistant] I just deleted it and I just walked away. And man, all these like anxieties and things like, it went away. You know, of course like my foundation has it and all those kind of things. And then like, I don't know, like a year later I was like, I'm gonna start it off again.


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[Assistant] I needed to realize that my energy needed to be directed at something else and that I wasn't being, you know, I wasn't fulfilling and maximizing my potential as a person because I was spending my time to start.


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[Assistant] Workin' my land, and you know, we have the ranch, and you know what, training my horses, and like, my kids, like, they don't have any tech, they don't have a screen, they don't have an iPad, they don't have any of those things.


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[Assistant] Teaching them the real basic things, like, and


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[Assistant] I started realizing how much time I was actually spending doing the things that I'm actually railing against, you know?


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[Assistant] And uhm, but I sold that and I bought things and, and I've really, uhm, I've changed the relationships in my life.


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[Assistant] I have all these realizations about things. I don't know where they come from. I have, well, I do know where they come from, right? You get plugged in.


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[Assistant] That energy is real and you get plugged into it and that's what guys find. Listen, there's days in the backcountry where it's like everyone's kind of chatty. And then there'll be like days where you're on a horse and it's like, nobody says a word. And it's just like, man, you can like, it's amazing.


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[Assistant] Uh, do you think that you made the SEAL teams or SEAL teams made you?


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[Assistant] Yeah. It's like something that I feel like when I showed up at Buds, it was like, I felt really inferior to everybody. Like in the sense that everyone had was like ripped and like, they were like, all had like, you know, played football and everybody was like sports athletes and everyone there. And I just felt so inferior. I had like the shitty tattoo.


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[Assistant] Like everyone made fun of. Well, not my classmates, but all the instructors.


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[Assistant] He was the one that was constantly calling me out. He was like, get up here and show everyone your stupid tattoo.


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[Assistant] So I'd like go up there and show him the tattoo. Everyone would do the laugh and then we'd take off on the run, you know? Kind of the thing. And, uh, and then one day he's up there and I was like, he's like, you know, if I had that tattoo like that, I think I would just kill myself.


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[Assistant] A mouthful of sand and I did the run every time I lost the sand. Cause I would slowly do a little, like I would stop it after refill, refill, refill. And I'd put the sand in and I'd run, but all the instructors came up to me and they were like,


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[Assistant] Going through that, like I did have that belief in myself, like I had a belief in myself and I would look at that, the instructors not in the sense of like they're out to get me, but that like, if they could be on the other side of this experience, then I could be too.


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[Assistant] That's all I ever thought about was like, if he can do it, I can do it. You know, it's like that was that movie, the edge or whatever, uh, with, uh, Anthony Hopkins and, uh, who's the dude that just shot the guy.


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[Assistant] He did, yeaah, he's a female, yeaah, that's right. And uhm, yeaah, but remember he did that movie The Edge? Yeaah, it was a wilderness movie, right?


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[Assistant] And I kind of like, I mean I wouldn't say I was like thinking about that movie, but like in my own way.