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[Assistant] Freedom Firearms is doing it out in Vegas. They're seracoting the receivers and the hangar, but they're maintaining that contrasted, uh, you know, darker hangar, colored receivers, so they're doing a really good job.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Retro9s at the time of this hitting YouTube are shipping, uhm, uh, Honey Badger style AR stock should be shipping now if not soon.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Tell us about those, cause I saw one I had no idea what it was for.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was, they're small wrench flats. They're emergency wrench flats. They're just for the accessory ones. The standard one is going to remain the same.


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[Assistant] But yea, the 45. What do I know? For LWRC, they're gonna use it with our Ghost M Plan B and whatever silencer they're gonna use it for. So, there's an opportunity.


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[Assistant] Well the trigger, uhm, it's eminent. That's really the major new products that should be out by now, or soon. Uh, the new website should be live right now. Oh, it should? Yeaah. Yeaah. It's awesome. Stilllivecuredye.com, but it's kind of revamped, kind of a fresh take on the firearms company website. How do you feel about it? It's colorful.


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[Assistant] It's very clean. It's very professional of us. It definitely separates us and it fits us.


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[Assistant] ATFs, uh, resources online as far as confirming FFL numbers. So when dealers place orders, we don't have to chase them down to verify if their FFLs are current or not. Customers are going to be able to go through a list of all active FFLs so they can actually choose an FFL and then it's going to send us the information.


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[Assistant] We don't have to cancel orders now when we can't reach a customer because we have no idea who to ship it to. So a lot of that integration is going to be nice just from a customer service standpoint. Yeah. And a customer experience.


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[Assistant] Yeah. It's like the one thing I've been doing.


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[Assistant] I love flying, even if, like, like you just said, even if we went out and you didn't see anything, like for me, just hanging outside of a helicopter is cool enough, like, that's...


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[Assistant] Next time you go on a helicopter hunt, take a GoPro or something so I can live through you.


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[Assistant] I was gonna say that's foreign to me too, but like even talking to Nick, the engineer here who's from Kansas, uhm, but he was explaining that like, those dogs, they're not, like from the outside, I see them like, oh, these dogs live with this guy and then they just got mauled by whatever and he killed it, whatever. I get it.


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[Assistant] It's not like that. Like Nick was saying, those dogs, like if you bring one into the house for a week, it'll never hunt the same way again. Like you can ruin a dog. So it's just, it's foreign to me and I understand it, but I'm in the same boat as you. It's like, I get why you got to do that. Not really the hunt for me.


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[Assistant] It's just a completely different connection to what you're eating if you're the one that killed it and processed it and all that.


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[Assistant] I think that, like you said, you go to the store and buy meat, it's just meat, it is what it is, but if you're the one that humped through the mountains and, or wherever, even just sat in the woods for two weeks straight, and you shot that animal, and you process it, you put in the work, there's a connection you now have, and you're doing the right thing by fighting it.


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[Assistant] But. Well kind of along the same lines as the whole, the ethics and the conservation and all that, you had the opportunity, some people might freak out, but you had the opportunity to shoot a giraffe. Oh my god. And it wasn't necessarily your first choice, but that's a cool story I think.


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[Assistant] No good ones. I didn't pose any questions, just because people don't follow the rules. The goose sheriff wasn't in town to patrol the comment section. If I say, hey, make us pick between two things, and you go, can I shoot my 556 through a cherry bomb? That's not what I-


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[Assistant] Was it, was the ACR before or after the scar? Like was the scar already a thing?


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[Assistant] No, you said 50. Yea, you're right. You're still wrong.


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[Assistant] Check the Tango Down stubby right now, $65, guaranteed. You promise to shut up if you're wrong?


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[Assistant] Give them the benefit of the day. Yeah. If one of them is 60 or 65, that's what I mean.


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[Assistant] So what did the MCX do differently that was better than, than the ACR's execution?


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[Assistant] Well, how many, I mean, much like the Station 6 or the B&T Wellrod, is this, is that Foldy Glock? Is it another novelty? Do you think it's only another, like, couple thousand people buy one, or?


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[Assistant] Didn't they- they just did something else too, right? I think they just-


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[Assistant] Well, are there any, uh, accessories? We don't, I feel like we don't talk about accessories a whole lot. Uhm, Q offers accessories. Are there any that are, like, do you have any that you think are kind of overlooked that you really, really like or that you get a lot of use out of?


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[Assistant] How about, I don't think we talk about it a whole lot, we, here and there, but how about QSERT? Like, do you think people know about QSERT enough?


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[Assistant] I've seen some people ask about it and I think it was something we just haven't really discussed too much.


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[Assistant] I appreciate the whistle tip a lot, just because I have shot just a, just a C without a can.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I hope it becomes more popular, QCert, once people really understand it and maybe this will help give people an understanding and I hope that it becomes more common and we start getting more, even if it's third party, even if it's our friends at Magpul.


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[Assistant] Well, KeyMod was real popular for a little bit, and then Magpul came out, or, uh, Mlock came out and said, well, we can do it lighter and more effective.


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[Assistant] I think for a period of time, Mlock was the best we had, and I think that-


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[Assistant] Keymod? Keymod? I think there were issues with, uh, with Keymod, the actual attachment system, stuff ripping out.


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[Assistant] We need everyone else to have it. Tell me about the army demo at Fort Benning when Target was broken.


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[Assistant] Do you know, uhm, off the top of your head, the actual 300 blackout that's been used downrange to shoot people? Yep.


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[Assistant] I know the first, the first one that was used, the guy said he was shooting 220 subs. Yea, headshot. Do you know if there was ever a switch, like do you know if they're running supers or subs, like do you know?


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[Assistant] Well that kinda leads me into the idea of the mini-fix. Uhm, I saw people very recently in our comments kinda complaining saying, uh, precision gun with that short of a barrel and a heavy round, what's the point? So.


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[Assistant] I mean, even in its defense, as far as stretching it out, I think Alabama Arsenal had a video where they shot a thousand yards with that, in that exact configuration.


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[Assistant] Don Jr. He's a friend of yours. He's been here, built a gun. Very nice guy, very down to earth.


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[Assistant] I know there's a little story involving some underwear, or lack thereof, perhaps. Do you care to divulge?


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[Assistant] That's cool. He seemed very like, again, I only knew of his father and my opinion is not, it's whatever. But when he came here, obviously it's a little serious thing with all the secret service coming in.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and they're, they're at work. They're not here to talk to any of us or whatever and they just kinda, they make that known.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Well, I mean, when we, like, there's a little convenience store next to Q that we frequent. Buzzy's. Shout out Patty at Buzzy's.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so we, a couple of us went over and just grabbed a coffee or whatever and walking back there were another six or seven like vehicles out there, there were police here, all just parked waiting and he must have been coming out the door as we were walking up in the


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[Assistant] Secret Service froze us and stepped us back and all of a sudden, you just saw us in there, like, we're not.


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[Assistant] I'm sure there are guys that you've hunted with too that are, are fairly well off or bigger names that will have people do it for them as well.


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[Assistant] It's funny to see how many people comment, not so much anymore, obviously, but before, whether it was the brace thing or anything going on in the news that doesn't even have to do with guns. You see, hey, talk to your, have your buddy Don talk to his dad. Like, I don't think you know how this works.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, email Jay. I mean we said it in the last one, but if you have anything, any art you want to see on here hung up or anything like that.


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[Assistant] You guys have had. What do you want? We'll podcast it. LiveCureDie.com.


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[Assistant] How you doing? I'm Kevin Brittingham. It's the Q and A.S. podcast. I'm here with Adam and Jay.


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[Assistant] So we're going to talk about silencer reviews. So Al Paulson, Pew Science, maybe pimp my new book coming out.


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[Assistant] We're going to talk about why Phil Dator sucks for silencers and anyone who loves guns in the NFA. So we're going to talk about Surefire, Knights Armament, Ops Inc, things they've contributed, things they fucked up.


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[Assistant] Along with advanced armament, Daewon Song being the greatest skater in the history of wooden boards with wheels.


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[Assistant] Well, motherfucker, I did not put them out. Alright, that fine woman that lives here that...


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[Assistant] Speaking of that, she is going to be not so happy with me allowing you to pour Campari that I've never had before into the Polish shot glass. You put it there. It's the official, yea.


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[Assistant] You're turning the sweet color of a strawberry. You're turning the color of, it's like the little girl in, um, Chowder.


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[Assistant] She turned blue. Yep. Well sorta, I mean cause she had like grape or whatever. Blueberries. You're turning the color of Kampari. Kampari. Alright, so I'm gonna try this first time. Good luck.


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[Assistant] There's a full fucking bar over there. It's like the last thing I would touch.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so I'm old. Yeaah, we gotta hire social media. Uhm, I have some- Speaking of taking slams. I haven't slammed lately. What else are you dating on?


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[Assistant] That's cool. My favorite part. I don't know, but I did just see.


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[Assistant] Uh, Richie Jackson, I think he skates for, who death skateboards or something? Yes. I just saw a part of his that blew my mind. Sliding all around and doing crazy stuff. So crazy. And he looks like a French pirate. Yeah. Richie Jackson. He's insane. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Well, and even, uh, what's his name, Andy Anderson for Powell.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he does some sick stuff. Uhm, man, I don't know, I just like it all.


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[Assistant] Like, I even love still watching Andy McDonald skate.


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[Assistant] Like my man Tony Hawk, 52, just did a 720 at 52 years old.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Mason Silva is sick. I mean, there, there's like 10 skaters that I just can't believe every time I watch them. But you know, my son watches all the new stuff. I don't know the skaters names. I mean, they're all like.


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[Assistant] You know, 18 years old, but skating's just progressed so much that, like all the parts now are sick.


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[Assistant] Probably animal chin or public domain. Yeah, probably animal chin. Um, I might've seen a Mark Gonzalez part or maybe the Savannah slam. I don't know. One of those, something in that timeframe was the first thing I saw.


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[Assistant] But it blew my mind too. I mean, the thing that stands out to me for my childhood the most with skating, as far as videos was animal chin and vert skating was the thing then, but seeing them on that, that ramp. Oh my God. With all of them skating. It was awesome. That's probably my favorite when I was a kid.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they redid it for like the 30 year anniversary and skated it a couple of years ago. It's still pretty sick. I mean, they all just still shred every one of them.


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[Assistant] He broke his leg, I think twice the last couple of years. So yeah, so he's just actually rehabbing and skating hard again, but.


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[Assistant] He's not back to where he was, but yeah, I mean, Lance Mountain's probably better now than he was when he was 20. Um, you know.


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[Assistant] I mean, Tony Hawk's still great. Mike McGill still shreds. He might even be a granddad now. He and Tony Hawk both, and they still are incredible. I don't know. So that's interesting to me.


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[Assistant] You know, Mark Gonzalez, before Rye Airfield just closed.


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[Assistant] RIP. Uhm, he would come, he was there cause he, I think his, either his wife or girlfriend and kid live in Boston.


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[Assistant] And so he lives there a lot and then I guess out in like Southern California somewhere, maybe NorCal. I don't know. But anyway, he was here a lot and like once a month would be at Rye skating. He still gets after it.


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[Assistant] I mean, for me, you know, street skating really happened as I was like a teenager. So seeing, you know, Mark Gonzalez and Tommy Guerrero were the first.


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[Assistant] That were real popular, but then seeing not as coppice, he was nuts. Like he was the first one that could really Ollie, um, you know, doing wall rides from Ollie's and just all kinds of stuff.


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[Assistant] Those are like memorable things, but street skating really just became a thing with like Muska and those guys in the nineties. Andrew Reynolds.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah. His fashion sense is so bizarre, but it's been popular. I mean that stuff. Oh my God. Yeah. My son just showed me that he just got some DCs, some, some, you know, like new, like updated versions of those shoes that they're.


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[Assistant] Well, not just the Muska, but just those big old DC shoes and stuff. So, so they're updating them and kids like my son right now. So he was into 80s skating a couple of years ago, like time period when I was a kid. Now he's into 90s stuff. He's gotten into street skating a lot recently.


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[Assistant] Yeah, intentionally. I mean, that's where he's getting it from is these skate videos. I mean, he actually, uhm, got a VX or whatever. He's got two different ones now for filming and, uh,


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[Assistant] Maybe Christmas last year, or he's had him for about a year, I guess.


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[Assistant] Sometimes, so he has the, there are these wheels called boarded cakes and maybe Thomas will post them up.


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[Assistant] And they've got, uhm, all the way down to like 40 millimeter wheels. That's crazy.


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[Assistant] But that's super tiny. He does it some, but then he gets aggravated cause he can skate transition really well, which most of the kids that skate a lot of street don't skate transition and those wheels are slow and


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[Assistant] Just horrible for skating transition. So he'll do it for a while or set a board up, but then goes back and forth. But yeah, he'll skate little wheels. I mean, it's kind of cool. He skates everything.


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[Assistant] Oh God, he and his friends just go thrifting and he'll spend 50 bucks and have a garbage bag full of stuff. And like, you know, he's probably a 28 waist and he's six feet tall, you know, and 40 pants, 42. Yeah. 42, you know, like bootleg.


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[Assistant] And yeah, it's ridiculous. I can't stand it, but that's what, that's what they're into.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Yeah. I think occasionally they'll find them in the thrift store. But if you find them online, I think they're like 200 bucks. They're not cheap. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Not, not, not if you're the lead singer of an aspiring New England band.


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[Assistant] My son has us watching that at night right now. My woman loves it too. Like the jackass stuff. Um, so that's, that's what he's into like currently.


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[Assistant] Not Bam. Except for Bam, right? Well, I don't know that Wee Man was ever, or Preston. I don't think he was too bad.


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[Assistant] So sad. It is sad. I mean, he's such a talented skater too, man. Yeah. Because you, you think of that time period and then, um, Rob Dyrdek like the success that he's had, you know, and Bam was a hundred times more popular and famous than him. Yeah. And probably at least as a skater twice as talented.


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[Assistant] Full speed. His drop ins. Holy crap Thomas, you should post some of those right now. Like some of his drop ins with like 10 feet of vert and 5 feet of transition. Scary.


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[Assistant] Got a question. Mike V, how do you say his last name?


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[Assistant] He's gotten weird, I fucking hate California. California can suck it.


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[Assistant] He, he's like skating and some dudes, some dudes started making fun of him and he bit up like four grown men at one time. Oh, he's an animal. And now he's, yeaah, he's gotten all green and soft and what a pussy, such a shame.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Doing it with his daughter. Totally cool. But him getting so soft, such a shame. I mean, he, he was the fricking outlaw because you know, it was part of that, like Dwayne Peters and all these guys that were super hardcore. They hated Tony Hawk because he was so like clean cut and skateboarding was like, so, you know, like renegade at the time.


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[Assistant] And Mike V on bones brigade. Cause she had, you know, Steve Caballero, Mike McGill, Tony Hawk, all these California kids. And you know, Mike V being from like East New Jersey, a poor family, like just a new England redneck. Oh, he was so hardcore. And yeah, now, now he's one of them eating tofu.


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[Assistant] No, that's older than me. No bones brigade. I mean the original like animal chin, you know, Tony Hawk, Gator has soy. Yeah. Um, Steve Caballero has probably always been my favorite. That, that was the time like I fell in love with skating.


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[Assistant] So funny, this morning I was texting my buddy Mike Hamill, who I grew up with, grew up down the street from me, and he and I started skating together.


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[Assistant] Um, but I remember he, he, he was texting me cause he had a Brandex weirdo, which was a kind of an off brand. They only made a couple boards and that's what he had. And we started skating and they announced a reissue and he paid for it three years ago.


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[Assistant] And thought he'd never get it. The guys would get in touch with him like once a year and he just got a notification this morning that they're shipping. Wow. That's cool. He's pretty stoked. So that's pretty cool. But, um.


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[Assistant] Yeah, his Instagram is, I mean, he's an old guy that knows Instagram better than anyone.


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[Assistant] He's my favorite skater right now and I honestly believe Elon Musk and Daewon Song are aliens.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, well he says he ride, his back truck's tight, none in the front, he likes it loose in the front, but yeaah.


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[Assistant] All of his videos, he just looks like an artist. I mean, it even seems separate from all skateboarding.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's one of the most creative people I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you know, it's, it's so weird cause you see Richie Jackson and like he's got the little mustache and the outfit and he looks like a, you know, like I said, like a French pirate.


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[Assistant] They want song, it's just like, it's just who he is. Right. He's not like trying to be special, he's just, it is interesting with creativity, like some people want...


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[Assistant] That's insane, like. It doesn't even make sense. I have to watch his videos over and over because half the time I think it's like CG or.


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[Assistant] Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I will say, um, who was that company? They went out of business. They raised a shitload of money. They did electric skateboarding.


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[Assistant] Liam pace, the skater we sponsor was sponsored by him and Andy McDonald. They're doing like commercials and shit. They ran out of funding, went out of business.


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[Assistant] But they were really nice, but you know, the horrible Chinese, they were.


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[Assistant] Creating their own brand out the back door, which was WowGo, and it is a copy.


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[Assistant] Boosted, so it's a boosted board. So a boosted board was like 15, 1800 bucks, which I was willing to buy. Went out of business a day. I decide. So our buddy talent sign, he reviews a lot of electric skateboards and he's given me the rundown.


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[Assistant] But WowGo is basically what bankrupt them because the Chinese start a factory next door to the, the boosted factory and they still all the technology and that's WowGo and then they, and people like, you know, my dumb ass buy it.


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[Assistant] I would have bought Boosted. I only bought Walgo. Because Boosted was out of business. But it's 750 bucks.


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[Assistant] It is the most fun I've probably ever had on a skateboard because I'm not very talented.


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[Assistant] Hand remote, the thing charges, it uses the little, I don't know, micro, whatever you call the chart. Anyway, simple charging. It is easy. The thing is awesome. It goes 24 miles an hour with 205 pounds on it.


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[Assistant] It is horrifying, but it is so fun. I love it. I have a one wheel and I have that and my son likes the one wheel better.


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[Assistant] And maybe I would too if I were younger, but I like the long board, the while go better and $750 most fun I've had for $750 maybe ever.


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[Assistant] I haven't heard of them. I mean, I got mine, so I wasn't that worried about it, but maybe I'll get another one this year. Cause yeah, Ivana, she.


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[Assistant] Learn to write it and to use it. So.


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[Assistant] Now I don't get to use it. Maybe I should buy a new one. Maybe I'll try it, but I mean the way I'll go, I've been super happy with it. 750 bucks, man. I mean, it's a lot for like a skateboard, but if you're in any of that or you live in a city and you want to get around, the thing is so fun.


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[Assistant] Casey Neistat, who is a popular YouTuber, who's kind of retired, moved to California. He was, you know, he was one of the first guys that became big and made a bunch of money.


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[Assistant] So he was sponsored by boosted too. And he, I would watch all of his videos. They're super awesome. Very positive. He was a neat guy, smart guy. Um, but he would write it all around New York and got me real excited about it, you know, for Portsmouth. So, you know, when I'm at the office in the summer or well, when it's going to have to be summer, just not two feet of snow on the ground.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, you know, the whole idea of, I don't know, like,


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[Assistant] Whether it's hunting or skateboarding, I just want people to enjoy it. Shooting, hunting, skateboarding, anything.


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[Assistant] So stop being fucking assholes. Like just because you're a great street skater or.


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[Assistant] Whatever, you skate transition to shit on longboarding? You're just a dick.


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[Assistant] Scooters and bikes, they get on my fucking nerves. Here's the only thing I don't like about it is they wreck the spot.


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[Assistant] Well, yeah, but here's the thing. Most of the scooters, the kids are young, the moms bring them as a babysitter. So they're out there like texting their boyfriends or, you know, swapping recipes, whatever the fuck the moms are doing. And there is no etiquette. Like by the time you can skate.


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[Assistant] Cause you can scooter at six years old. You're not afraid of getting your ass whipped at six.


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[Assistant] When, by the time you can really skate, let's say 10 or 12 years old,


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[Assistant] If an older guy says you snaked me again, I'ma like beat your ass.


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[Assistant] You settle the fuck down. But the lines are different for Scooter and BMX. BMX goes all over the fucking park, you don't know what's gonna happen.


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[Assistant] But Scooter, they do one thing and they pause and they stop in the middle of the park, which sucks. And the kids are so young, they don't understand the etiquette. Nobody's teaching them.


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[Assistant] But by the time you're skating and you're able to skate the parks or the pools, like we skate, you're old enough to like.


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[Assistant] Understand getting your ass kicked and you don't have that with scooters. So.


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[Assistant] I don't have a problem necessarily if they understand the etiquette. So I'm not trying to be a dick about, but I love long boards, which I don't understand why most skateboarders are like anti longboard. Like I just want to roll around. Like I just like.


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[Assistant] That feeling. So I don't care if it's a long board or it's a actual motorized scooter. I have a motorcycle and a scooter like I, and I actually have way more fun riding the scooter. Honestly. Um, long boards, like anything, anything with wheels, I just like to go.


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[Assistant] Especially when I was younger, like skating now is so popular. It's in the Olympics. And I love that. The downside is like, we have a skate park here where it Hampton outdoor park, which I love. And it's a DIY part. Um.


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[Assistant] But since Ry airfield, our indoor park closed down, all those housewives bring their kids to Hampton and they don't understand etiquette. And so like, you know, like I love kids more than most people fricking love kids.


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[Assistant] And I tell a kid to watch the fuck out like at least one time every, and then I feel horrible about it, but it's like some little kid that doesn't understand, it just keeps cutting in front of you. And it's like.


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[Assistant] Do you not have a dad? Like, nobody smacked you on the fucking head. Like, watch the fuck out. Like, I'm going. You take turns. Like, I wait for you. So that's the part that bothers me.


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[Assistant] So it's supposed to happen this year. I don't, I bet it doesn't happen this year either, but yeah, they postponed it to this year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but this is the first year skating's in the Olympics, or last year was supposed to be, so the first Olympics.


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[Assistant] Um, which you know, most purists too, like hate it, but I want everyone to skate just like I want to be able to go to the skate park. Cause for me, like weighing 200 pounds, like if I run into some six year old that weighs 40 pounds on a scooter, I'm going to like knock him unconscious. And I got to deal with his mom, Karen, like, you know, bitching at me.


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[Assistant] You know, and then plus, you know, you got a few bucks, you get sued. It's a pain in the ass or no, I got to build my own skate park. Skateboards only BMX and scooters can suck it.


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[Assistant] Or, I want adult swim for skate parks. Why can't we have adult swim? I want it at the gun range. And adult swim at the gun range. You know what that is? Are there kids at the gun range?


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[Assistant] No. Sorta. Have silencers. Yes, there are. Have silencers on your gun. I want the last 15 minutes of every hour, silencers only. Everybody without a silencer. Set your fucking gun down. Take a seat. You know, sip you some seltzer or Campari.


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[Assistant] Let the men with silencers shoot without ear protection. You ringing my not ringing my ears with your 12 gauge, with your AR pistol, with no silencer, with your 1911, with like your, you know, your, your, your Gator, uh, belt and all this shit with your spur, all, all the weird shit.


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[Assistant] Sit the fuck down. Let me do some shooting without ear pro. Uhm, so yes, adult swim. I want adult swim at the skate park where the scooters and everybody under 15 sits the fuck down. 15 minutes. Let me, let me cruise around. That's what I want.


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[Assistant] And BMX, suck it, you sit down too. Go to the streets.


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[Assistant] Papa's a rolling stone, man. I just do everything how I feel at the time. Uh, yeah, cloud defensive. So on my honey badger.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah. So I put on my honey badger. Love it. The owl. It's big. This is the owl.


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[Assistant] So they sent the owl and the rain and the rain mini.


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[Assistant] They are bright as shit. So bright. Like I don't buy, like Surefire used to send me lights and I guess like my hookup or my, you know, like cool guy tag expired and I don't get the free lights as a year or two ago.


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[Assistant] I just use whatever they sent me. I didn't care. These are so bright. I like it. I like that you can move it from one side to the other. Super cool. Clear anodized. Appreciate you. That's cool. Um.


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[Assistant] Rechargeable battery, I actually like. Yea, and they come with a charger too. I know, now that I'm like old and I have all this shit, like I'm all anal about the chargers, like in the house, I got all the things charged up, if Aiden touches one, I fricking spin him back.


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[Assistant] The lights. Oh, that was a package. Yeah. One you got has a charger in it. Yep. Yep. Charger in the battery, but, um, things I don't like about it. It's too heavy.


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[Assistant] They needed us to engineer this motherfucker to lightweight. It is so big. I don't even care that it's big if it's a lightweight.


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[Assistant] You can make anything big and heavy and make it strong. You can also engineer things correctly, like Q does, and they can be lightweight and durable.


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[Assistant] I bet it's so expensive. Because they made it cool to these young kids.


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[Assistant] It's just too heavy. Otherwise so far, I think it's awesome. Uh, I like how you can reverse it to either side very easily. I like to rechargeable battery.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I don't, I mean, I don't care about aesthetics and even the size. It is big, but it is a lot of light. Like I was shocked at how bright. I mean, I got a big house in that front hallway. I don't know. What is that? Like 90 feet long and it lit it the fuck up. Um,


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[Assistant] I mean I bet it's like DB, I bet they all fucking cheat and stuff.


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[Assistant] I tell ya, when I checked this in that front hallway in the house, it's so long.


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[Assistant] The first thing I would do is put this thing on a diet. I mean, I don't even know those guys, but they were nice enough to reach out to us. So that's cool. But, um, I like it and I like this one because you have this. Let me have that. So.


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[Assistant] This one as well, which is a little more traditional thing. And you have this pressure pad. Is there a way, do you know, you probably do because you're all into the shit that you can not have the pressure pad and you just have the button.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't know. I haven't got my hands on it yet. This part is a pain in the ass. I do not like the way they set this up. I would like to do that better, but I love the clear anodized. This doesn't seem too heavy and this thing. Oh my God. Is it bright? Yeah, that's the rain. That's the one that he was.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't even care about the size of the button, but just the way you install it is, I don't love it. I agree and I think that's the big thing.


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[Assistant] This is, this is clean. It's just, they're using too much aluminum. Right. Yeah. I don't like that. I mean, I like the pressure. I don't even know if I care about the two buttons. It's just, it's difficult and it takes time to put on. And one thing this made me like about what we do, if you buy the fix, there's two tools. Every screw on your gun is a T25.


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[Assistant] And that was a pain in the ass. We had all custom screws made. You need three different tools for this. And that sucks. Cloud Defense, like us, needs to make custom screws with all, you use the same tool for everything. Every place there's a screw head should be the same tool. A T15 or whatever.


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[Assistant] Probably the only one that shoots a lot of stuff. And I'm like, ah, I don't want all, like I said.


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[Assistant] Like if I go on a night hunt where I'm going to use an IR laser or I'm going to use something, I set the gun up with that.


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[Assistant] I don't leave one. I do leave a gun set up with my REAP IR, my thermal on it.


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[Assistant] But I don't leave all the other stuff on it. I set it up depending on what we're doing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because I don't want to have a gun set up with like four pounds of shit on it.


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[Assistant] I, I do like the light. I gotta tell you, I like it. I like this setup. I like that it's offset. I like it attached to the top rail, especially on the honey badger SD, which I prefer.


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[Assistant] Cause you know, can't really use these M-locks. I don't want to hear about it. We developed this gun before there was M-locks. Suck it.


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[Assistant] I think it depends on what you're doing. People do that and you're talking about like home defense or an offensive situation. If you're talking about just for shooting someone that's a threat, you don't need to throw light at 500 yards.


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[Assistant] Well, I think, and I don't know, they probably know more than me, but me being a reasonably smart guy. I thought you were about to say redneck.


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[Assistant] Both. Well, being a redneck, I shoot a lot of shit. My buddy Chad.


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[Assistant] Got his transfers back last night, went out all night with his, uh, trash panda.


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[Assistant] It's the greatest chat, it's the fucking greatest. Anyway. So, but what you get with rednecks go shoot shit, you get real light shooting shit. Reasonably smart rednecks. Yeah, but uhm, with warm light, the contrast isn't as harsh, so it's a little easier on the eyes.


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[Assistant] I don't need a light that bright. I mean, the cool thing about it is I'm a blind the fuck out of whoever it is, but like I could see someone easily identify a target, what they have and shoot them with something half that bright. Right. Which with this gun, I would love for something to be smaller.


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[Assistant] I got you. I don't know. Maybe we should work with them on a Q light, be a small lightweight when we'll design the body and all and attachment to be lightweight.


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[Assistant] No, no, I mean with pigs and all in some places it's not. Uhm, I usually use green light with the pigs. Uhm, I keep a white light with me. Sometimes if it's small enough and compact and light enough, I'll have it on the gun. Just when...


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[Assistant] You know, we get up to something, you know, we need light rather than worrying about carrying it on me. Like I, I mean, I'm usually super streamlined. The guns only have what I need. I don't carry a belt, a rig with a bunch of shit on it. I keep generally a spare mag in my pocket.


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[Assistant] And that's where I love those vertex pants that they have some kind of mom jeans, but some of their pants too, they sent me are awesome. I think I'm wearing a pair now and they got a place for an AR mag.


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[Assistant] And it's nice, like it, and it doesn't take up my pockets. I'm not sitting on it. Um, but sometimes the small white light, yeah, I'll use on a gun if we're not hunting, but not, not to light a target up.


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[Assistant] After the fact to be able to light it up where I'm not carrying a light on my pocket. Cause generally I stick it on me somewhere and I've lost them before or whatever. If it's on the gun, I always have it.


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[Assistant] Well, we should probably partner with somebody and you know, we could have one of the engineers assigned to them, you know, for some period of time and develop a light or two that would, you know, the body and everything that would make sense for us. But.


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[Assistant] It's small, it's compact. I don't even know what that is. Why do we do it? It's because it goes right to the M-locker. It's an M-lock direct body, so you don't have to have an intermediate mount.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I love that. So reducing weight and making it more streamlined.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think it's ease of manufacturing if I don't want to let him know. Well, yeah, but you would order it that way. Like to me, I would order this to put the gun, the, this light, this owl in particular.


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[Assistant] So making two different ones as opposed to making one that's universal. Like universal is cool for manufacturing, but it generally is not great for the consumer because there is going to be some sort of compromise.


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[Assistant] Hey, I'm Kevin from Q. This episode of the Q and S podcast got a mother fricking sponsor. Tatco distributors, you're on fire.


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[Assistant] You know, anything to go on my pool or hot tub, it'd probably be these board shorts.


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[Assistant] But these are summertime hunting boots. Thin sole. Like skate shoes. They're lightweight. They breathe. They repel the water. A cool thing about tactical distributors. Alright, number one. Cool motherfuckers. Number two.


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[Assistant] Their return policy? Simple. Easy. I never know, cause I got like the fat feet. So this could be a 10 and a half, could be an 11. I don't know. Order two sizes. I pick one, send it back.


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[Assistant] It's no trouble. Let's get a little label. Send it back. Cost me no money. tacticaldistributors.com promo code. I don't know what you call it. Whatever code at the end. All right. Unpossible 15. Unpossible 15 gets you 15% off tacticaldistributors.com. Give them a look.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's an ugly gun. Yeah, that's true, but that's in the seventies. Yeah. I mean, the Glock is hidden. You should just get used to it.


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[Assistant] I do too now, but the first time I saw it, like the first few years I was into firearms, I would have never purchased a Glock because they were so ugly.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's ugly, but I like the way it looks in the sense of, I know it's a silencer, trying to make it fit a holster, all the things.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, it's interesting to me looking at the market, even dealing with silencer shop customers now. Um, you know, I have 30 years experience. I'm 47.


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[Assistant] Not many people have been around as long as I have, involved heavily in silencers. Like, probably just me at this point. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Up until fifteen years ago, it was all about sound.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but there were only half a dozen companies. And they were very small. The market was very small. From 15 years ago, the market's probably 20 times bigger than it was.


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[Assistant] And sound was everything. And the guy who was kind of the...


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[Assistant] I don't know, like the mediator of all this stuff was Al Paulson. So Al Paulson wrote some books.


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[Assistant] Uh, silencer history and performance volumes one and dose. So maybe Thomas put that up here.


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[Assistant] So you can find them on eBay or whatever, but, uh, he, it was all about sound and all military standard testing, which is, you know, like 1.6 meters high meter left of the muzzle.


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[Assistant] And it was what it was, but in my opinion, it's pretty true to what you hear at least. I mean, I've heard thousands of silencers, hundreds of thousands of shots from silencers. I got a pretty good ear for it. Um, but that's all front of the muzzle or muzzle testing.


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[Assistant] And I think now as I've gotten older and I always reserved the right to change my mind, I'm opinionated. Um, I'm invested in this. I care about it.


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[Assistant] But what I think now is different than what I thought 15 years ago and 15 years from now, hopefully it'll be different then.


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[Assistant] My ear to mil standard testing, if I'm away from the shooter, is pretty, pretty spot on. But now I care about at the shooter's ear. So the testing isn't really as relevant. But sound testing


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[Assistant] Uhm, the sound of a silencer used to be everything.


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[Assistant] And I just don't think it is now, but the thing is the industry grew. It's lucrative. Um, so it's a different industry.


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[Assistant] And everybody copies everybody. There's plenty of quiet stuff. So it's all the other features that really matter to me now, because we used to have sound comparisons and what happened is this before really the internet. Um, AWC and Jim tech were the major companies. I was a distributor for both.


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[Assistant] I started designing stuff at gym tech, but I still dealt in AWC stuff. Their stuff was very nice. Doug Olson, who's the engineer that did all the nights arm at stuff. And then he went, uh, uh, sure fire. Maybe he's at Wilson combat. I don't know where he is now, but he did all the original stuff for still team six, actually in the seventies and early eighties.


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[Assistant] Qualitech was the company I post on my, my personal Instagram, some of those silencers and he based all of his stuff on Maxim designs, which are very good. He, he was an alien as well with Elon Musk and they want song.


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[Assistant] Caleb cry, probably an alien. God, I love Caleb. He's so cool. Um, weird motherfucker. Anyway, so, you know, sound was really everything back then. Um,


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[Assistant] And Al did all this comparison testing and guns and weapons for law enforcement and special weapons for military and police were printed publications.


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[Assistant] That he wrote for and he did silencer comparisons as soon as advanced armament.


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[Assistant] Started. So my company that I founded after I kind of had a falling out with Jim tech.


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[Assistant] When we started beating them, which we did with our 22, our 22 integral, with 9mm,


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[Assistant] We beat them in everything and we should have, I hired one of their designers. Uh, he lived in Atlanta where I lived, even though they were in Idaho and he and I started advanced armament together. As far as I started the company, he, he was designing a lot of stuff.


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[Assistant] And, uh, we beat them in every comparison. So what Phil Dator, that piece of shit did was he called, uh, Stanley Harris, Harris Publications, who's now defunct probably because he gave in to shit like this.


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[Assistant] And told him that he, Jim tech would no longer advertise if they published comparison articles with, with silencers, with Jim tech products. And that's only cause we were beating them. He loved it when they were beating AWC and that stopped comparison articles. And so then.


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[Assistant] Uh, the internet, you know, it's coming on. So silencer talk, which originally I think was silencer review. So it was a guy named Robert Silvers who was an MIT grad who I eventually hired and did a lot of stuff, including the.


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[Assistant] Well, he did the slant baffle. I did the monocore. We gave him credit for everything because he wanted credit because he was independently wealthy and he's a little guy with an ego. Um.


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[Assistant] But he started a website testing silencers because he bought a bunch of SWR silencers back in the day.


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[Assistant] And they didn't perform as published and he was really upset.


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[Assistant] And he started a website and testing just to show that they were not what they claimed. They weren't better than competitors. Anyway.


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[Assistant] Before he launched the, uh, forum, the website,


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[Assistant] He contacted every manufacturer and he had heard I was the biggest asshole. So he contacted me last, but everyone else said they wouldn't participate. He called me. I was like, I'm all in. Like I want to.


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[Assistant] Compare my stuff against everyone else's cause we'll kick their ass. And if we don't, then I'll work.


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[Assistant] To design and build stuff that will be the best.


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[Assistant] And he did that testing for a long time.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, Phil Dater again, and some of the other guys complained that he was biased and he was, cause what Phil Dater originally claimed, I was paying Al Paulson back in the day, which I was not. Phil Dater's a liar.


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[Assistant] And then he claimed the same thing with Robert Silvers with silencer review, which turned to silencer talk.


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[Assistant] And it was not true. So then Robert just came to work for me.


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[Assistant] But it was because we earned everything on merit and sound was a big deal. But as we started getting into military contracts, then it was size, weight, durability, construction, blowback, all of these other features and sound, if there were 10 things on the priority list, sound would be number eight, nine or 10. And.


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[Assistant] We stopped caring about it as well as far as the main priority. Designing the quietest silencer in the world, Ethan and I have done it dozens of times. But making the best silencer is what we're after. And how do you define best? I don't know.


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[Assistant] Building the quietest, who cares? Like I've said a hundred times, if it costs $2,000 or it weighs two pounds, I don't give a shit.


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[Assistant] But now you see sound isn't a real thing, and you see, uhm, Jay? Pew science? Pew science.


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[Assistant] I think he is completely honest. I think-


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[Assistant] He's brilliant, probably too smart for his own good. Too smart for the average person he's trying to connect with.


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[Assistant] But he seems really hung up on back pressure and a couple things that I think are not the most important things. Like if we want, if the quietest silencer is what's sold, that's all we would do.


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[Assistant] Like, their mount and flash hider weigh as much as our trash panda and cherry bomb. So who cares? It's irrelevant.


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[Assistant] And now you see them copying our mount. And they say, oh, well no, it's because it's a left hand thread. It's better. Well,


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[Assistant] Guess what jackass, if you're a real engineer and you understood like,


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[Assistant] We have instructions if you torque the things correctly.


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[Assistant] You don't need all those wrench flats. You don't need that extra weight because even the thing dead air did is twice the weight of what we're doing.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's like for them, but you know, it's like the B team. Um, yeah, but Jay, I think.


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[Assistant] I love what he's doing, I wanna support him, but I think he's sowing the weeds.


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[Assistant] I mean, I hate it, but I don't even really read the reviews because I think there's just.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of information that we don't necessarily, most of the population or people buying silencers don't need.


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[Assistant] Well, okay. So back pressure and sound at the shooter's ear, but what about durability? What about the weight? What about all these things? Um, you know, I don't, I will take more back pressure and I will take.


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[Assistant] You know, less durability to save a thousand dollars and a pound on the end of my gun. So I mean, I don't know what the right number is. It's something when I started the American silencer association that I wanted to do was have a simple.


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[Assistant] Great for a silencer based on things that actually matter, but the problem you run into, whether it's him or it's Ethan or guys with that sort of intellect.


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[Assistant] Is getting them to like, you know, really boil it down to stuff that's important for what sells. Do you read Jay's reviews?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I mean, he's good friends with us. He has a lot of integrity in my opinion.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. I think that's cool. Well, I think a lot of guys are afraid to do that too, because we take so much heat for me running my mouth and calling people out. So you know, just like you see the grand thumb video where people.


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[Assistant] The first time ever people offered to pay him to say bad things about the honey badger and you know, whether it's CGS and you know, that little douche bag or, you know, Griffin or some of the other silencer companies that are fucking hacks. Like I don't.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I never know because I think it's him trying to be friends with everyone too, but that CGS can, I've seen it. It's stupid. It's a, it's the size of our, the 50 caliber silencer that I did at advanced armament. It's it weighs two pounds. It's a, just a thread mount silencer. Um,


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[Assistant] You know, the baffle is super complicated. The silencer is very expensive. They couldn't produce it and make it.


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[Assistant] Um, a value to customers. So now they're going to 3d printed stuff. So like who fucking cares?


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[Assistant] Yeah. So I mean, I think the problem is if we don't have some standard to measure and we've got one guy deciding what's best or what's important. And I would believe guys like Jay and guys like Ethan that varies from time to time and not having some.


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[Assistant] Particular standard as much as people didn't like the mill standard.


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[Assistant] Provide something like that, the shooter's ear, something easy to understand. But also.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, we design ourself to be lightweight, incredibly durable, provide proper sound performance, you know, the blowback.


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[Assistant] Point of impact, shift, accuracy, all the things are taken into consideration. And who's the one to value that?


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[Assistant] You know, so, so then who are you valuing it for? Are we looking for something that's like for the soldier? Because if that were actually what's really important, everyone would drive Humvees or tanks, you know, and we don't do that. So.


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[Assistant] Well, the only reason you generally care is because of sound, unless it's reliability of the weapon. But, you know, what about, so what if we do something that weighs five pounds and costs $7,000?


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[Assistant] Yeah. So that's a tough one. Um, so then it comes in the other things, you know, like the mounting systems. Oh my God. Like when we talk about, I don't know, where do we have, what do I have here? So.


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[Assistant] The gym tech silencer from back in the day. And this is pretty much so, uh, special op shop did this three lug spring loaded business for MP5 three lug barrels.


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[Assistant] Everyone's copied it ever since everyone you brought up CGS.


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[Assistant] Everyone copies it now. Spring-loaded, three-log.


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[Assistant] Business well spring loaded, so you got a moving piston, so you have all these tolerances. So it moves on the barrel a little. So how big is your bore need to be? Bigger.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And you know, you're not just putting it on HK barrels. Now I saw the Griffin sisters make three lug adapters. So you have an adapter going on a threaded barrel with a 90 degree show.


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[Assistant] Then it's weight, moving parts, all these things. I hate these. They suck.


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[Assistant] We shouldn't do this anymore. Like it's even worse now than it was 15 years ago. Most of the barrels were the German HK barrels that you would see.


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[Assistant] And like, this is a silencer and early AWC silencer done by Tim Bixler.


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[Assistant] So anyway, you'll loosen it. There's only two parts. There's no spring loaded business and let's see, it'll come off eventually.


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[Assistant] Maybe not. Hmm. There you go. But it's just a threaded collar.


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[Assistant] Put it on the gun, you tighten it up, and it's rock solid, there's no movement.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're so you're pulling it on the tapers of the logs and it's just too moving. And now it's rock solid.


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[Assistant] Like all these spring loaded ones, once you get it on the gun, the silencer wobbles. It's stupid.


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[Assistant] And they carbon up. Yeah, that's a can that was done in the eighties by Tim Vicks or it's a coaxial can.


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[Assistant] But again, it's a ton of volume, you know, and that was made to be disassembled so you could clean it and all this stuff. Well, then all that makes it heavy. But if you do a big volume silencer, do it correctly, materials, you could weld it together. Be lightweight.


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[Assistant] I don't think anybody does it right. I will say this, 3D printing, so back, surefire, so you cloners.


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[Assistant] The, uh, their SOCOM 556 hand. So in that contract, we won the machine gun silencer, um, at advanced armament attached to our 92 tapered mount.


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[Assistant] I don't think anyone does it correctly now. And you see, like, talking of CGS, uhm, they built quiet stuff, but it was huge and it was heavy and it was stupid and it was complex and it was weak.


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[Assistant] So now they scrap that whole line of silencers, now they 3D print everything. Like why would you 3D print a tube? Tubing is so consistent, so easy.


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[Assistant] It's so inexpensive, the tolerances are held super tight, and all you gotta do is two robotic welds. Simple. Uhm, so these companies printing the whole tubes and everything.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean in 3D printing, Daniel Defense is doing the silencers and now, you know, CGS is doing it.


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[Assistant] The problem with a lot of the gun companies trying to do it is every engineer designer that works at a gun company wants to do a gun. They don't want to do a silencer. And so it's all half-assed. Um.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't, uh, you probably shouldn't 3d print the tube like 3d printing the core. Like this probably makes sense. You know, we ended up casting this for the government, but.


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[Assistant] A 3D print is something that's very complex, like that's probably still better casting or maybe machining than 3D print.


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[Assistant] But putting in a tube and welding it, that's probably what makes sense, but.


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[Assistant] You know, I think most of the companies now, I mean, if you're doing super low volume like CGS or even Daniel Defense.


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[Assistant] 3D printing is probably okay. The volume we're doing or, you know, some of the other companies.


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[Assistant] I just don't think we're there yet for it to be affordable and to be able to produce enough.


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[Assistant] We write a lot of stuff, yea. All parts, yea. I mean, cutting metal is stupid.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I mean, anything we did that was bad seems like we just didn't do adequate testing or we didn't have real engineers, uh, rushing to market is generally bad. I can't think of a.


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[Assistant] Well, I don't know, y-you know, like when I was fired from Advanced Armament, we were doing this.


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[Assistant] That was a good idea. It never made it to market. Uhm, the black box. Oh, which inspired.


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[Assistant] This silencer. So there's some videos of the black box that are like 15 years old on YouTube right now. Was that an AAC thing? Yea, AAC. That was cool, but you know a problem with this was...


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[Assistant] AAC took off, silencer market took off. We were so back ordered and I didn't have actual engineers at the time.


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[Assistant] So it was a difficult project for me to work through and, and we just shelved it and you see them. I don't know. Do they still make the scan? The Osprey? I don't know. I don't know, but yeah, it's not that popular.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, you couldn't though. You still had to have some taller sides, actually.


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[Assistant] That's fine. A lot of first round pop. They messed some stuff up. Uhm, you know, that was something. Uhm.


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[Assistant] So I don't know. I mean, there's, I don't, probably nine out of 10 ideas we have are bad and hopefully we figure it out before it comes to market. Um, I think we're way better at it than 15 years ago.


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[Assistant] That I think was a good idea that wasn't successful. So maybe it was a bad idea. The Prodigy Silencer, overall, it's a monocore, not too different from this one.


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[Assistant] Tapered tube inside. So like once you break it loose, separate it, the core comes out easily, which I thought was kind of cool, but I copied this mount. It is a thread.


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[Assistant] That I copied from Maxim. And the idea, Jesus Christ, where are my glasses?


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[Assistant] So have a couple of dots, dot on here, dot on the silencer somewhere right there. You put them together and then it should rotate. Yeah.


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[Assistant] So 90 degrees, fast attached silence here.


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[Assistant] Also thread mount. So this is half 28. Interrupted thread? Interrupted thread. So, been done many times before. And actually, like on this, uh,


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[Assistant] Maximum silencer. So here's a mount you'd put on the gun, same thing.


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[Assistant] You know, same thing. And now I see like, uh, the Griffin sisters, they have their, um, cam lock or something that they invented. It's the same thing. Like Maxim did it 111 years ago. AAC did it 11 years ago and now you see it and it's like people didn't take to it. Like nobody cared.


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[Assistant] I thought it was super cool cause you could, you could still thread this onto your half 28 barrel or if you have that adapter, it's fast attached like the Maxim. So that was kind of a cool one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so a booster or a nilson device or a recoil regulator is a spring loaded device. So it's a piston that your sound, your pistol barrel threads into that's spring loaded that when you're


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[Assistant] Gun cycles of Browning type action, the tilting action where the barrel will dip slightly.


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[Assistant] It basically the spring allows the barrel to move independently of the mass of the silencer momentarily so that the gun can cycle. So the most copied one that I know of.


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[Assistant] So, AWC had one, Knight's Armament had one, and then I did one at AAC for our evolution silencer.


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[Assistant] And what I did that was special there the first time ever was I had the, uh, booster housing that it's, that,


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[Assistant] The spring and piston rode in, I made it coaxial. So I poured it and I created area around it, volume.


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[Assistant] That the gases could expand to and what that did was a couple of things. Uh, it reduced the back pressure and also, um, eliminated first round pop and sound reduction by several DB.


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[Assistant] Um, and it's what everyone, everyone out there uses now in copies. So basically it comes out like this and this is a booster. So.


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[Assistant] This one has a fixed weapon space around it, but normally a spring would be over this, but it goes in the booster housing, which is vented and coaxial.


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[Assistant] And this would lock into here and you thread this into the silencer. So this is kind of a tri-axial design. It's what everyone uses now. Uhm, but it's important.


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[Assistant] For the gun to cycle, um, and if you want to put it on a fixed barrel gun or like a, this silencer in particular, if you want to put on like an MP5, then you put that spacer in there so the silencer didn't move while you were firing.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So with the erector nine, we're going to do it and it'll be a separate module that goes in the back, just like the three log. Like when I showed earlier, we're going to have a non spring loaded three log adapter.


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[Assistant] It's light. It's simple, fewer parts. It doesn't move. You'll get better accuracy, less point of impact shift. It's.


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[Assistant] It's just an all around better way of doing it. Uhm, but we'll also have a booster for, for pistols. So like a Glock or whatever, that's what you'll use.


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[Assistant] Um, it's critical, you know, what we used to have to do back in the day was try to make silencers under six ounces so that they would cycle. So they would be so small and lightweight. You would have to fill them with grease every 10 rounds in order to shoot them. And it'd be reasonably quiet with nine millimeter subsonic.


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[Assistant] Well it's, no, well that's the fixed spacer, so if you put it on a fixed barrel gun like an SMG, the silencer isn't going back and forth.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So I mean, we'll see. I mean, there will be some number of baffles where it won't be necessary for a booster for it to be reliable. That's true. So if you want to shoot it with water or with grease or Vaseline or some artificial medium.


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[Assistant] It'll, uh, it's gonna be quiet and it'll cycle. I don't know.


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[Assistant] The booster for ultimate reliability. And again, for those in the cheap seats, you want to test it, shoot your pistol down the ground, like point the gun down and shoot it. That's how I generally gauge. If something's relatively reliable, like the, the redneck test.


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[Assistant] Point it at the ground. Try it. Uhm, so that's it. So for the Erectronon.


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[Assistant] We should have different threaded pistons. We should have the three log, the fixed rear end cap. That's a good thing about engraving the blast baffle rather than the rear mount. We can change out all that stuff.


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[Assistant] I guess we need a fixed weapon spacer, which is just a spacer you're supposed to spring with.


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[Assistant] Knights armament during the Mark 23 program, which is the big HK pistol, what it ended up being, but originally they were working with Colt.


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[Assistant] But they did a booster, spring loaded booster system.


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[Assistant] That I essentially modeled hours after an advanced arm, but then the coaxial area and the other stuff, timing it.


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[Assistant] Making it easier to time because they had castle cuts in the top of their silence here. I mean, it was pretty complicated. So I simplified it some.


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[Assistant] It made it easier and it's kind of what everyone uses today. Um, and you know, there's little adjustments in that where you can make it quieter. You know, we used like a flash hider style cuts, like Phantom flash hider cuts in the piston and it gave us some flash and sound reduction.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, there's some little tricks. I mean, uh, a small compact lightweight handgun silencer for nine mil. It's a trick. It's not easy.


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[Assistant] I don't know if you've heard of it. I mean, probably the Knights can, whatever their current one is. The NT4, now the NT4 gets a bad rap from all you young cloners that were born in 94.


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[Assistant] All right. So in 94, like the POI and accuracy requirement at a hundred was like three or four inches. So Knights built the silencer to that requirement and that thing's a tank. There's probably been more of those made than any other silencer in history of the world. And it uses a, well, use a baffle kind of like this called a crimp cone.


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[Assistant] They originally made them from tubing, they would crimp it and then cut it and weld it up. They cast them now. Uhm.


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[Assistant] The night silencer I think is awesome. Sound wise it's as good as anything.


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[Assistant] The mount sucks in the sense, just like sheer fire, like don't let them blow smoke up your ass.


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[Assistant] Knights and sheer fire, both in their manual. If the silencer is stuck on the mount, you disengage the latch.


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[Assistant] And you fire around and you go pick it up down range. Fuck that. And that's what, that's one, one place the SR five that we designed for that SOCOM contract was superior. Um.


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[Assistant] It's loud and it's weak. The surefire silencer compared to the night silencer is much weaker.


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[Assistant] They do spot welds. They don't do circumferential welding. So the silencers break very easily compared to the night silencer. But the night silencer is loose on the gun and it rattles. And so your accuracy and your point of impact shift is great.


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[Assistant] It's not a, it's a gate, but it's a manual and then you have a rotating latch that holds it down. So it's complicated. It's heavy. It weighs like 24 ounces or something. It's like, it's a heavy silencer, but you can put it on a Mark 46 or a two 49 shoot full auto and you ain't going to do that with a sure fire. Socom can full auto rated.


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[Assistant] I mean, Kevin and I talked about it earlier this morning, but like the, the XM 2010 is a tank and it's, there are lighter guns, there are potentially better guns, whatever, but it looks cool to me. So I'm drawn to that or whatever. So aesthetics for me and other people I know are, are huge. And then, yeah, okay. It's, it functions well too. That's awesome.


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[Assistant] Did they, did they manufacture the amps, like the off-score amps? Like was that them or was that just kind of their design and then? Yes.


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[Assistant] Well, the cool thing about the amps too is that a lot of guys were running double ear pros. They were doing the, just the earplugs plus the over the ear. When you do that, it eliminates the ability to necessarily hear around, like with Peltors, whatever. And these, I don't know how it works, but there's a little amp, I guess, in the earplugs. I can explain this. Yeaah. So you probably know. Be quiet, Jay.


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[Assistant] Basically it was, a lot of the questions were just about stock. People were asking if you ever plan on doing a padded variant.


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[Assistant] Uhm, not to digress completely, but you got a little testing with 8.6 done recently?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we did answer some questions. I think one of, one of the questions that I saw that was interesting was for both of you, but I think people want to ask you, are there any


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[Assistant] Any tools that you learned through industrial, engineering industrial design that you think are neglected in this industry, uhm, that you very much try to, try to cover? I think you've spoken on it a little bit, but.


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[Assistant] I think there's a weird zeitgeist with the entire industry in general and even you may see it with the people asking about pads on the slings and everything like that. There's this idea that people


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[Assistant] I just, I feel like why not get the best thing in that category. I know it's not necessarily achievable. I can't just go buy the best gun for this, this, and this. But at least aim to it. It's the Swiss Army knife effect.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but they said they did the research and, one and, one and five. One and five isn't as accurate. Yeah, bullets explode mid-air.


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[Assistant] Well, but what you're saying too, the idea that the Honey Badger started as a kind of a niche thing and then it's, like you said, you are able to expand and do other things with it, but you also don't try to push it where it doesn't belong. Like, you're not shooting it at steel at 600 yards, like,


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[Assistant] Well that's a thing, that's a common thing that you see when people are trying to, to stan one company and put down the honey badgers, like, web6 is more reliable. Actually not, not even to, according to the guys that adopted it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a, it's a good one. I mean, Grantham just dropped a video of him doing it and I thought it was awesome to see a Q silencer on it. What did it have on it? I think it's a half nelson. I think it's a half nelson or full nelson.


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[Assistant] All the greatest guys just seem to be in the Air Force.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they look cool, they're durable, they're fucking loud though.


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[Assistant] Nice. Well you're a precision guy too. Do you have like a, do you have a go-to rig?


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[Assistant] We'll put you in the show notes, all your links and everything.


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[Assistant] This is specifically to Edgar. Why Edgar always gotta talk about my mom like that?


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[Assistant] Welcome to the Romance of the Three Kingdoms podcast. This is episode 10.


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[Assistant] So hey, we made it into double figures on the episode count. I think that calls for a minor celebration.


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[Assistant] If we were in the era of the three kingdoms, this would be where I get up, bow, and offer you all a cup of wine to show my gratitude for your support.


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[Assistant] So thank you to everyone who has given this podcast a little bit of your time and attention.


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[Assistant] My podcast stats tell me that the show's audience is growing, and I thank those of you who have been spreading the word. If you know someone who might be interested in this show, point them to our website.


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[Assistant] ThreeKingdomsPodcast.com, Spell with a number three.


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[Assistant] Also, don't forget to check out our Twitter feed and Google Plus page where I post updates and miscellaneous information related to the show. The links to those pages are on the website. Thanks. Now let's get on with the show.


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[Assistant] So last time on the podcast, Sun Jian has set off on an expedition to seek revenge against Liu Biao for an earlier unprovoked attack when Sun Jian was returning home with the Imperial Hereditary Seal.


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[Assistant] The campaign could not have gotten off to a better start. Sun Jian easily foiled the defenses set up by Liu Biao's commander Huang Zou, and then soundly defeated Huang Zou in a pitch battle.


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[Assistant] With the opposition on the run, Sun Jian began to advance on Xiangyang Prefecture, which was Liu Biao's home base.


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[Assistant] Huang Zu gathered his tattered army and scurried back to Xiangyang to report to Liu Biao that Sun Jian was unstoppable.


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[Assistant] Let's put Liu Biao in a panic, and he turned to his advisor Kuai Liang for answers.


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[Assistant] With this recent defeat, our army has lost its fighting spirit, Kuai Liang told him. Right now, our best bet is to strengthen our defenses and stall so as to blunt Sun Jian's momentum. At the same time, we should send a secret message to Yuan Shao to ask for his help. That will solve our problems.


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[Assistant] But Cai Mao, one of Liu Biao's top generals and his new brother-in-law disagreed. That is a foolish suggestion, he said.


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[Assistant] The enemy is at the city gates. Are we supposed to just sit on our hands and wait to be slaughtered? I'm willing to lead an army to fight a decisive battle.


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[Assistant] Liu Biao decided to grant Cai Mao his request. So Cai Mao gathered up about 10,000 men, went outside the city, and lined up in battle formation to wait for the enemy.


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[Assistant] When Sun Jian's forces arrived, Cai Mao rode out to meet him.


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[Assistant] This man is Liu Biao's new brother-in-law, Sun Jian said. Who will go capture him for me?


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[Assistant] Cheng Pu immediately rolled out and raised his spear to engage Cai Mao in combat.


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[Assistant] Cai Mao proved to be no match for Cheng Pu, and after just a few bouts, Cai Mao turned and ran.


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[Assistant] Sun Jian directed his forces to charge, and they killed so many enemy soldiers that the bodies of Cai Mao's men were strung all over the field.


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[Assistant] Cai Mao himself managed to escape back into Xiangyang. Seeing the outcome of the battle, Kuai Liang told Liu Biao that Cai Mao should be executed for ignoring good advice and bringing a costly defeat upon himself and the army.


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[Assistant] Well, considering that Liu Biao had just recently married Cai Mao's sister, it was a pretty safe bet that he wasn't going to send his brother-in-law to the chopping block. It's a decision he'll regret later on, but for now, he had bigger problems to worry about.


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[Assistant] Like Sun Jian's army leading siege on his city from all four sides. Things were looking pretty good for Sun Jian right now.


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[Assistant] Liu Biao's forces haven't been able to put up much of a fight since the expedition began.


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[Assistant] And it seemed only a matter of time before the city of Xiangyang is breached. But then one day, there came an ill omen.


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[Assistant] A strong wind suddenly sprang up, and it was so ferocious that the flagpole from which Sun Jian's banner flew was snapped in half.


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[Assistant] This is an inauspicious sign, said Handang, one of Sun Jian's generals. We should return home.


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[Assistant] But Sun Jian wasn't about to walk away when he is so close to total victory simply because of the questionable craftsmanship of one flagpole.


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[Assistant] I've won every battle so far, and I'm on the verge of taking Xiang Yang. How can I abandon everything we've achieved?


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[Assistant] Just because of a gust of wind that broke a flagpole. So instead, Sun Jian pressed his attack on the city.


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[Assistant] Inside the city, Kuai Liang has seen some ominous signs himself, and he went to see Liu Biao.


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[Assistant] Last night I was studying the stars and saw that a great star was about to fall, he said.


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[Assistant] It was in the region of heaven corresponding to Sun Jian's position.


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[Assistant] My lord, you should immediately write to Yuan Shao and ask for his help.


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[Assistant] Liu Biao quickly wrote a letter, but he needed someone to fight through the sea of soldiers currently leading siege to his city in order to deliver the message.


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[Assistant] Lü Gong, one of his best warriors, immediately volunteered.


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[Assistant] Before Li Gong set out, Kuai Liang drew up a strategy for him.


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[Assistant] Take 500 men, including a lot of good archers, and head towards Xian Mountain, Kuai Liang told him. Sun Jian will no doubt come after you.


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[Assistant] Send a hundred of your men to gather lots of rocks and boulders and lie in wait on the mountain.


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[Assistant] Have another hundred hide in the woods with bows and arrows.


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[Assistant] When the enemy catches up, don't try to run away. Instead, lead them on a winding pursuit.


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[Assistant] When they fall into your trap, spring your ambush and besiege them with rocks and arrows. If you're victorious, set off a series of bombs as a signal. Then we will send out reinforcements.


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[Assistant] If Shun Jian does not come after you, then just be on your way as quickly as you can.


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[Assistant] Tonight will be a dark night, so you can leave the city at dusk. So Li Gong went and gathered his men.


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[Assistant] At dusk, they secretly opened up the east gate and stormed out the city. Sun Jian was in his tent at the time.


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[Assistant] When he heard the sudden cries from outside, he quickly hopped on his horse and let 30-some riders out to see what's going on.


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[Assistant] A soldier told him that a squad of men had stormed out of the city and was headed towards Xian Mountain.


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[Assistant] Sun Jian didn't even bother calling up his officers. Accompanied only by the 30-some riders he set off in pursuit.


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[Assistant] By this time, Li Gong had already set up his trap.


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[Assistant] Sun Jian's horse was faster than those of his entourage, so he darted out in front alone. Soon, he could see the enemy fleeing in the distance ahead, and he shouted for them to stop.


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[Assistant] Li Gong turned around and came back to fight Sun Jian. After just one bout though, Li Gong turned and fled into the mountain. Sun Jian followed into the mountain, but there was no sign of Li Gong.


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[Assistant] He was just about to head up to the side of the mountain when the clanging of a gong echoed across the slopes. This was the signal to spring the trap.


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[Assistant] At once, rocks and boulders flew down from the mountainside. While a torrent of arrows shot out from the woods, Sun Jian had nowhere to hide. He was hit by a bunch of arrows, and a rock crushed his head. Soon, he and his horse lay dead in the mountain. He was just 37 years old when he died.


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[Assistant] Having killed the enemy's leader, Li Gong now came back down for mop-up work.


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[Assistant] He and his men jumped on the 30-some riders who followed Sun Jian and killed them all.


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[Assistant] They then set off a series of bombs to signal their victory.


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[Assistant] Within the city, Huang Zu, Kuai Yue, and Cai Mao each stormed out with an army, and their attack threw the enemy into chaos.


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[Assistant] While this was going on, Huang Gai, who was commanding the navy for the Jiangdong forces, heard the commotion and moved in with the navy to join the battle. He ran right into Huangzu.


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[Assistant] After just a couple bouts, Huang Gai captured Huang Zu alive.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, Cheng Pu escorted Sun Jian's oldest son, Sun Ce, out of the chaos. As they were trying to figure out which way to go, they ran into Lü Gong,


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[Assistant] Chengpu rode forth to take him on, and after a few bouts, he stabbed and killed Lü Gong.


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[Assistant] The two sides tangle in a huge melee before both pulling back around dawn. Liu Biao's army return to inside the city.


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[Assistant] It wasn't until he arrived at the river that Sun Ce found out that his father had been ambushed and killed.


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[Assistant] What's worse, his body had been carried off into the city by Liu Biao's soldiers.


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[Assistant] Both Sun Ce and the army wept at this loss and disgrace.


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[Assistant] Huan Jie, an officer in the army, stepped forward and volunteered. Liu Biao and I go way back. I am willing to be the messenger, he said.


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[Assistant] Sun Ce agreed, and Huan Jie went to see Liu Biao, who was in the mood for peace.


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[Assistant] I've already laid your master's body in a coffin, Liu Biao said. You can take him back as soon as you release Huang Zu.


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[Assistant] Then both sides should stop fighting and never encroach on each other's territory again.


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[Assistant] Huan Jie thanked Liu Biao and was just about to head back to camp, but Kuai Liang spoke up. No no no no no.


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[Assistant] We can't do this. I have a suggestion that can wipe out the entire army of Jiangdong.


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[Assistant] Let's first execute Huanjie and then put this plan into action. Sun Jian is dead and his sons are young.


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[Assistant] They are at their weakest right now. If we attack now, we can conquer Jiang Dong in one fell swoop.


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[Assistant] But if we cease fighting and allow them to recuperate, they will become a thorn in our side.


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[Assistant] This is where a hero of the times would not hesitate for a moment.


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[Assistant] Execute the messenger, and then start marching on Jiangdong.


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[Assistant] However, Liu Biao was not a hero of the times, despite his lofty reputation.


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[Assistant] The huangzu was in their hands, he said. How can I abandon him?


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[Assistant] Giving up a witless man like Huang Zou for the entire region of Jiangdong is a great bargain, Kuai Liang countered, but to no avail.


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[Assistant] Huang Zu is a close confidant of mine, and it would be dishonorable for me to abandon him, Liu Biao said.


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[Assistant] So Liu Biao sent Huan Jie back to his camp with the agreement to exchange Sun Jian's body for Huang Zu.


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[Assistant] Upon the return of his father's remains, Sun Ce called off the war and went home to Jiangdong.


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[Assistant] After his father's funeral, he set up base in Changsha.


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[Assistant] There, he did exactly what Kuai Liang predicted, as he began to rebuild his family's power base.


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[Assistant] He was humble and generous and courted men of wisdom and valor.


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[Assistant] Naturally, talented men from everywhere began to trickle into his service.


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[Assistant] So if it sounds like Sun Ce is setting himself up to make some noise later on, it's because he is. For now though, he is just some no-name kid.


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[Assistant] At least that's what Dong Zhuo thought when he got the news that Sun Jian was dead and that his oldest son was just 17.


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[Assistant] So it's been a while since we caught up with everyone's favorite villain, so let's stay in Chang'an for a little while and see what Dong Zhuo is up to.


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[Assistant] We haven't talked about him much in the last couple episodes, but things have been actually going really well for him. The coalition against him has fallen apart. Two of the leaders of that coalition


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[Assistant] Yuan Shao and Gongsun Zhan are now taking a favorable stance toward him after he helped them resolve their conflict.


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[Assistant] Another leader of the coalition, Sun Jian, is dead. With seemingly no one left who's able to threaten him, Dong Zhuo became even more arrogant than before. He gave himself the title Honorary Father.


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[Assistant] Now this was an extremely prestigious title bestowed upon the rarest of ministers.


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[Assistant] The first guy who was recorded to have received that title was Jiang Ziya, one of the most famous ministers and military strategists in Chinese history, who helped found the Zhou dynasty, which lasted some 800 years.


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[Assistant] The use of the word father in the title implies a high degree of reverence for the minister from the emperor, so the relationship between the lord and his officer is no longer one of master and servant. Dong Zhuo didn't stop at just the fancy title, however. Whenever he appeared in public, he acted as though he was the emperor.


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[Assistant] He made his younger brother General of the Left and Lord of Huazhou


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[Assistant] His nephew was named Privy Counselor and had command of the Imperial Guard. All of his relatives, old and young, received titles of nobility.


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[Assistant] When Dong Zhuo was done handing out titles, he set about doing something nice for himself.


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[Assistant] At a site about 80 miles outside Chang'an, he drew up plans for, well, to call it a residence would be an understatement.


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[Assistant] It was more like a silly, and it was dubbed 没物.


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[Assistant] There were palaces and granaries, and its walls modeled the capital in height and thickness. Within the walls, the granaries held enough food for 20 years.


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[Assistant] Dong Zhuo's family lived in this city, and he selected more than 800 beautiful young women from around the country and sent them to live in the city as well to cater to his needs, along with countless gold, silk, pearls, and all sorts of treasures.


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[Assistant] After his city was built, Dong Zhuo commuted between there and Chang'an, sometimes spending up to a month away from the capital.


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[Assistant] Whenever he left or returned to the capital, all the court officials had to either go see him off or greet him outside the city's northwest gate, and Dong Zhuo often set up tents by the side of the road and feasted with the officials.


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[Assistant] Now, were he to stop there, Dong Zhuo perhaps would be just another corrupt official drunk on power and wealth.


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[Assistant] But he also did things that took him from just run-of-the-mill super villainy to cartoony uber villainy.


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[Assistant] For example, one day, as he was about to leave the capital again, all the officials gathered, as usual, to see him off, and they feasted outside the gate.


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[Assistant] During this feast, Dong Zhuo ordered that several hundred enemy soldiers from the north who had voluntarily surrendered be brought to the tent.


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[Assistant] There, in front of all the court officials, he handed out some rather sadistic orders.


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[Assistant] Some of the enemy soldiers had their hand or foot chopped off. Some had their eyes gouged out. Some had their tongues cut out. And others were boiled alive in a giant cauldron. And remember, these guys had surrendered voluntarily.


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[Assistant] The howls of the victims shook the heavens, and everyone in attendance was so shaken that they couldn't even hold their chopsticks steady.


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[Assistant] All that is except Dong Zhuo, who will eat and laugh like nothing was going on.


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[Assistant] On another day, Dong Zhuo summoned all the officials for another feast.


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[Assistant] After a few rounds of wine, Lyu Bu entered and whispered a few words by Dong Zhuo's ear.


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[Assistant] Dong Zhuo smiled and said, so that's how it is. He then ordered Lyu Bu to drag Zhang Wen, the Minister of Public Works, from his seat and out of the banquet hall. All the officials turned pale upon seeing this.