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[Assistant] Buy that lawnmower you've been meaning to buy. Also, subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already. Seems obvious, I know. iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, and other podcast providing platforms. Also on YouTube, because we do have a YouTube channel, Rob Jones.


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[Assistant] I know you're on there sometimes. We have excerpts. I think that's really one of the main values is the excerpts.


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[Assistant] For sure, for sure. Because yea, yea, cause a lot of times, I mean aside from seeing what you and our guests look like, you know, the video version or whatever, the excerpts are shareable and I didn't realize how valuable that was with the sharing.


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[Assistant] I think it's a gradually increasing understanding of the value overall. Nonetheless, I could go into a whole thing about that.


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[Assistant] We'll just say I'm realizing it more. How about that? Check.


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[Assistant] Nonetheless, good value there, in my opinion, and a good way to support, so subscribe to the YouTube channel.


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[Assistant] If you want. Also, Jaco has a store, if you didn't know already. It's called Jaco's Store. Go to Jacostore.com and if you want the shirts that say discipline equals freedom, get after it.


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[Assistant] A warrior kid shirt, like this one. Or the shirt that Jocko always wears, the victory MMA in fitness. That's where you can get it. That's where you get it. JockoStore.com. We need to make grey ones, of these. Grey, which is grey. Grey. Oh, like Heather Grey.


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[Assistant] But that's a general term, you know, great. It's like you can't just say hey, you know, you got it Well, I need gray shirts for the summertime. That's


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[Assistant] Nonetheless, I'll make the grey one so there will be a grey Victory MMA and Fitness shirt available on JockoStork.com soon.


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[Assistant] I promise. Also some women's stuff on there. Uh, some patches. I just got the patches reordered so they should be in there. You know, stores running better now. It is. So, you know, check it out.


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[Assistant] For various activities, including but not limited to jujitsu, cycling.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there was a guy on Twitter... Instagram. I think he ran, I think, a marathon, I think.


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[Assistant] Nice. Representing? Representing big time. Oh nice. With the kid after Rascart. He said he did 50% better. 50.


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[Assistant] It is an album. Not a music album. It's a spoken word album with tracks. And these tracks are for, they have a purpose. Not just entertainment, like, ooh, this is poetic. It is poetic, but that's not the purpose.


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[Assistant] The purpose is, for each track, is to get you through. When you're on the path, on the campaign against weakness, you'll run into these moments of weakness.


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[Assistant] Right, just little insurg- weakness insurgents. If you will, you know, they- they show up every once in a while. So, you listen to a specific track designated for a certain type of weakness that'll creep in. And the track is Jocko telling you why you should overcome this weakness. Why?


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[Assistant] Kinda how, as well. It's not Chuckle Yelling at you, it's just a pragmatic, kinda in a way, these steps to take to overcome these weaknesses. Boom! Hundred percent, uhm, hundred percent, uhm,


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[Assistant] Okay, there's this guy, he deadlift, I don't know, he deadlifted a bunch. Oh yea yea yea. Recently. What's that, who's that guy? He's huge. He's a, he's a. Bjorn for. Yea yea yea. Hafthor Bjornsson. Yea yea yea yea. He just won the Arnold Classic. Yea he won the Arnold Classic. So I've been seeing a lot of that video. Yea yea yea. In reference to. No a lot of people are.


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[Assistant] How long is that part of it? I don't see- I mean, you know, how much of that is it?


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[Assistant] Kinda like the British accent, sometimes they don't say the t's too, and sometimes they say them really solid. You know? Like they say, snap back to reality. They don't say the t. Reality. Or, reality. When they say it. Nonetheless, back to support. Yea, if you wanna support. Support your joints.


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[Assistant] This is how you support your joints, if you don't already. Jocko supplements. Good supplements. Krill oil. Super krill. Jocko super krill oil and joint warfare. Supplements for your joints. Maintain them. Also, discipline.


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[Assistant] Pre-workout. Pre-mission. Cognitive enhancer plus physical...


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[Assistant] Yeah, actually. Yeah, you know, it's like a blend. It's a good blend. Yeah. Uhm, I am running low on the krill oil. I did not take my own advice for the re-subscription. Yeah, so I had to manually get some more. But, hey man, that's life sometimes. Uh, if you want to get on the subscription thing,


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[Assistant] Re-up every, what is it, month, right? Cause it's a month supply. Yeah, yeah, yeah. However much you take. And that's the smart way to do it. Totally is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, fully. It's the one. I think the combo is the best way to go, for sure. Recommend the combo. Nonetheless, you get them at originmain.com. Good way to support and support yourself, that's a big one. Also at originmain.com, there are geese and rash guards for your jiu-jitsu journey if you have chosen or will choose to go on that jiu-jitsu journey.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know Tim, Tim always says like, oh, you know how Tim, he's been out of the Jiu-Jitsu for a long time, Tim Ford. Yeah, yeah. And he'll be like, well, okay, yeah. I gotta get back in shape to go. No. You're looking at the wrong way, man. No.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you go back to jiu-jitsu. The jiu-jitsu gets you in shape. Yeah. You'll be, you'll be fine. You're gonna suffer. You'll suffer a little bit, but. Might even suffer a lot. Eh, probably a lot, yeah. It's hard.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yes. So Tim would be like, come back, and then, and it adds that level of anxiety, cause you know when you feel yourself gas- well you probably don't know this, but if you feel yourself gassing and you're like, shoot I knew I was gonna gas, now you're really gassing, now the anxiety goes up and you gas some more.


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[Assistant] That is how it is. He'd want to avoid all that stuff. That's what I think. But, you know, that's when you put all these weird expectations on yourself. That's my opinion. In a jujitsu. So just go into jujitsu and learn jujitsu. And when you do, you're gonna want a gi. If you do gi. Cause you can do no gi as well. But when you choose a gi, I recommend. You recommend?


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[Assistant] OriginMain.com, get your gi there, when you choose to get a gi. There's compression gear too, rash guards, if you do no gi, there's rash guards there too.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Now. So like little issues that come up in jujitsu. Just little ones. Or big ones or whatever when they come up in jujitsu. I'll tell you what's cool.


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[Assistant] And let's go to originmain.com, you can check out whichever one you want. Hey, if you want something, get something. Also, what you wanna do is...


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[Assistant] So, Jujutsu Emerging Camp, it's not like a training camp for ADCC.


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[Assistant] Or some of us, nothing's gonna be sore, because maybe it'll be sore for a little while, and then we're just gonna cruise a little bit, exercise the brain more, and then the body, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, go back and forth. Do whatever you like. Yeah, and there's a lot to go around, and it's kind of fun too, that's the thing.


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[Assistant] But isn't that part of the whole learning process though?


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[Assistant] Go man, if you can make that, make that. Uh, what's the date time again?


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[Assistant] Yeah, all kind of stuff. Also, good way to support yourself if you choose.


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[Assistant] And hard, so. They're hard, yeah. So here's the thing. Where, what, boring is like, just a complete matter of opinion.


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[Assistant] If you can do it 10 times, but you can do it 20 times, cause look, if you can do something 20 times, you can do it 10 times. So yes, but, what you're saying is, something that you, you know, max out at 10 times. The weight you use to max out at 10 times. You do it 20 times. Physically impossible.


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[Assistant] No bruh. Maybe, maybe. Anyway, if you want to vary up the workout, go to onit.com, slash joco, get some cool kettlebells, get some battle ropes, get a mace, get two maces, a heavier one and a lighter one, boom, formulate a more interesting.


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[Assistant] Alright, well there you go. You have an interesting workout. Well, do it that way. That's what I, that's what I would, would, what do you say? Suggest.


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[Assistant] Anyway, on it.com. Good stuff on there. Uhm, don't get addicted to the website because there's a lot of good information too on there.


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[Assistant] Cause you could, nonetheless. Also, good way to support. When you get the books that Jocko sometimes reviews on this podcast, I organize, or we organize them on JockoPodcast.com. Click on the top to the books from the episode. I got all the books listed there. Including little articles that, you know how sometimes you'll cover an article.


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[Assistant] Is, is this kinda like the time I asked you, hey do you know of any gun ranges? You said, yeah, google, go on google and search gun ranges, kinda like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I feel the same tone.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, like maybe, or maybe, maybe they just heard you on Tim Ferriss or Joe Rogan and was like, boom, this guy's super interesting. Let me go straight to him and start talking to him kind of thing or start asking questions rather than going on the internet. Let me research who this guy is and what he likes and doesn't like to do, et cetera, et cetera.


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[Assistant] As opposed to what? I don't know. Saying... Going to school and studying at first? I guess that would be the...


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[Assistant] Alternative. Nonetheless, if you were feeling


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[Assistant] Not lazy. Actually, this has nothing to do with laziness because this is more a convenience that I think would be benefit- or I thought would be beneficial for people who are looking for the books that you cover. And ways to get them. That's why I organize these books on TalkAboutGuess.com Yeaah. The website. So yeaah. They're all there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, makes sense, I mean I organize them by episode.


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[Assistant] Gotcha. So if you, if you, if you wanna read your book, Jocko's book list. In order of importance. In order of importance, you go in chronological order per podcast. Yes. With books. That's recommended. Because not all podcasts have books. That's right. Side note.


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[Assistant] Cool, well there it is. Again, just click on the books and boom, takes you there, boom. Click through there. Get your book.


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[Assistant] Carry on. Easter gifts. Sure. Good. Those chocolate Easter bunnies and the eggs, you know how you, you go Easter egg hunting, right? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yes. Well my kids do. Sure.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. There you go. My other kids don't care. Yeaah, yeaah, yeaah. Makes sense. You know, they're older. After a while you kinda figure it out. Kinda.


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[Assistant] Still fun though, can be. Nonetheless, click through, that's a good way to support. Also,


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[Assistant] Subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already. Uh, leave a review. If you're in the mood, leave a review. Here's the thing. I'm not saying, hey, leave a review. I'm not saying to leave a review. But I think sometimes people, they want to leave a review, but they don't like think about it, you know? And then, one...


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[Assistant] Say I get reminded, like, oh shoot, I want to leave a review, and I get reminded, like, boom, then I'm gonna go leave a review. That's a good one.


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[Assistant] Nonetheless, subscribe if you, uh, you know, if you wanna support that way, that's a good way. Thanks for the people who have subscribed. That's, that's, that's a good, good deal. It's much appreciated. Big deal. Also on YouTube, subscribe to that if you want, if you like the video version of this podcast, or if you wanna watch and or share excerpts of this podcast. Three minutes, one minute sometimes.


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[Assistant] Time is running out. Yeah, that's like a witty code. Did we settle on enhanced? Enhanced. I think it's called Enhanced. Excerpt.


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[Assistant] That's when you knew you made it. We made it. Straight up, popular culture, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's how it, I think that's how it gained. I think it was for like music videos, I think. Hip-hop music videos and stuff like that. Then you get, you know.


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[Assistant] Jocko's on Worldstar. Worldstar. Daaang. That's good. Nonetheless. Cross.


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[Assistant] Make it happen. You did. 100%. Uhm, but yea, YouTube, you know, subscribe to that.


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[Assistant] Awesome. So yea, YouTube. Good one, good way to support. Also, Jocko has a store, it's called Jocko's Store. Obviously.


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[Assistant] JockoStore.com, obviously. That's where you can get shirts, t-shirts, some travel mugs on there, some rash guards. More rash guards. This is like Jocko Gear rash guards. So, compared to, how would you compare them to the Origin? Cause, actually,


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[Assistant] So yea, boom, you can get rash guards there as well. Uh, some patches. Those are restocked. A lot of people were hitting me up, that's why, for patches.


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[Assistant] Maybe it's not that important to you. No, no, no, it's important. So, I got a handle on it, and I think I have a solid system where, you know, we're gonna run into way less of that, if any, of that.


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[Assistant] Also, Psychologic Warfare. If you don't know what that is, that's an album.


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[Assistant] An album. Not a music album, it's a, it's a... Spoken word. Spoken word.


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[Assistant] With tracks. Jocko tracks. And each track is designated, formulated, engineered. Engineered is what it is. To help you through little points of weakness that you might run into on your campaign against weakness. Like if you wanna skip.


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[Assistant] I always say, if you wanna skip the workout, if you're like, hey I'm too tired, I don't feel like it, I don't feel like it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know what's funny is that I asked you that before and it wasn't that specific question, but it was essentially that question and be like, hey, what do you do? And then you kind of gave me a look and more like as if your feelings don't matter kind of thing. You basically pulled the jokko and was like, does it matter if you feel like it or not?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but here's like some people they, they, they focus on and this can be beneficial from, from what I hear. They focus on or they identify certain things they do in a morning routine that helps them, that like sets them up mentally or whatever.


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[Assistant] But if you drink water when you're thirsty, you're already 2% dehydrated.


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[Assistant] Alright, there you go. So you're 1%, uh, over, over-hydrated, or hydrated within, nonetheless, uh, but, well, you know how, like, I'll drink a whole thing, like, you know, the mugs that we have to travel with, they're 3 ounces, by the way, I'll drink a whole thing of that, just routine, that's kind of the routine, but, here's a-


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's two elements to drinking a soda, especially for the first time is, okay, it tastes weird.


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[Assistant] It's super important not to forget or not to like, miss.


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[Assistant] Interpret, where, you know, you just, uh, the quote you just said, like, your morning routine's not gonna be the solution to your problems kind of thing.


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[Assistant] It seems like you're making fun of it for people because this is what it may be sounded like when someone asks you, what's your morning routine? It sounds like you're kind of with this presumption, like you're presuming or assuming that they think it's going to solve all their problems. That's kind of what it sounded like.


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[Assistant] In that very specific direction. Like if someone says, hey, look, I'm always looking for things to benefit my day, my effectiveness, you know, I've, you know, I do this and do that. And I found that this even helps a little bit here and there. Hey, what's your morning routine? Maybe I can incorporate one or more things of your routine maybe into mine. That'll give me a little bit of help too. I don't think you would have came off like that. Oh, definitely.


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[Assistant] Good. There's some layers on the tea, which I kind of remembered last time, but I didn't want to interrupt your, your talking. Is first episode of this podcast. Absolute first one. Oh yeah. I think the only one that doesn't start with this is Joko Podcast.


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[Assistant] That's what it felt like, that first one, that's what it felt like.


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[Assistant] What was funny is you shut it down so quick, right when you heard it, you were like, hey, you know, you want to cut it at this point, not the, not the little, like we just rolled into a conversation, but here's the thing with that conversation, as far as the layers go, we talk about white tea.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that soap's actually good, like, to use. Oh, for sure. Let's face it. You know, how you have your friend, and, you know, his wife makes soap on the weekend. Oh, this is a sympathy project.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, and you, so you got some, and it's beautiful, it has the little packaging, and then you say, alright, it's soap, uhm, let me go ahead and use some soap, and you're like, bro, this isn't like usable soap, this is a novelty, decorative item. It was a cool-


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[Assistant] Oh alright, there you go. And you like motorhead.


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[Assistant] That's like the standard, like a certain amount, that's officially when you consider successful.


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[Assistant] Yeah man, and actually you know what though? Good job over there seems real simple, but I'm sure in that context it was probably the most loaded


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[Assistant] This is Jocko Podcast number 119 with Echo Charles and me, Jocko Willink. Good evening Echo. Good evening.


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[Assistant] 400 miles from the collapsed World Trade Center towers, three dozen passengers and crew aboard United Flight 93 remained in airborne purgatory.


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[Assistant] Starting at 9.30am for some 30 minutes. 14 of them managed to telephone either loved ones or operators on the ground.


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[Assistant] Public relations man, Mark Bingham, got through to his aunt's home in California. This is Mark, he began. I wanna let you guys know that I love you. In case I don't see you again.


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[Assistant] Two other callers from the plane not only provided information but also gleaned vital news from those they phoned. Tom Burnett, chief operating officer for a medical devices firm, made a number of brief calls to his wife, Dina.


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[Assistant] Speaking quietly, he asked her to contact the authorities and told her that a male passenger had been stabbed later that he had died.


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[Assistant] A woman, perhaps a flight attendant was being held at knife point and the hijackers claimed they had a bomb.


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[Assistant] Jeremy Glick. A salesman for an internet services company also managed to phone.


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[Assistant] In a long conversation with his wife, Liz, Glick said the hijackers had put on these red headbands. They said they had a bomb. They looked Iranian.


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[Assistant] The couples told each other how much they loved each other.


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[Assistant] Glick said, I don't want to die. And his wife assured him that he would not.


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[Assistant] She urged him to keep a picture of her and their 11 week old daughter in his head to think good thoughts.


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[Assistant] Burnett's wife, who had been watching the news on television, told him that two planes had crashed into the World Trade Center. My god, he responded. It's a suicide mission.


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[Assistant] By the time he phoned a third time after news of the crash into the Pentagon, she told him about that too.


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[Assistant] Burnett seems to have been seated beside Glick and apparently relayed all this information to him.


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[Assistant] The two men must have agreed they were sure to die anyway when the hijackers crashed the plane.


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[Assistant] They resolved to fight for their lives.


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[Assistant] A group of us Burnett told his wife were getting ready to do something.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna take a vote, Glick said on his call. There's three other guys as big as me, and we're thinking of attacking the guy with the bomb.


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[Assistant] So began the minutes of brave resistance, the clearly defined act of courage that has lived on in the national memory.


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[Assistant] Glick and others were equipped in more ways than one to confront the hijackers. Glick was six foot one and a former college judo champion.


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[Assistant] Burnett, at 6 foot 2, had played quarterback for his high school football team. Mark Bingham was a huge man, 6 foot 4, and at 31, still playing rugby. A few years earlier, he had fended off a mugger who had a gun.


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[Assistant] His mother got the impression as he talked from Flight 93 that her son was talking confidently with a fellow passenger. She felt that maybe someone had organized a plan.


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[Assistant] At 942, a GTE Verizon supervisor based near Chicago began handling a call from yet another powerfully built Flight 93 passenger.


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[Assistant] Todd Beamer, a star Oracle software salesman, was married with two sons and his wife was expecting again.


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[Assistant] He first dialed his home number, but either failed to get through or thought better of it. Instead, explaining that he did not want to upset his pregnant wife, he asked the phone supervisor, Lisa Jefferson, to pass along a loving message.


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[Assistant] As they talked, Beamer suddenly exclaimed, shit, oh my god, we're going down, Jesus help us.


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[Assistant] From the passengers around Beamer came prolonged shrieks of terror.


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[Assistant] Then he said, no, wait. We're coming back up. I think we're okay now.


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[Assistant] Beamer asked Jefferson to say the Lord's prayer with him. Our Father, who art in heaven.


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[Assistant] Just before Beamer and the operator had begun talking, Cleveland lost- Cleveland Control lost Flight 93's transponder, the signal that indicates an airplane's location and altitude. At 955, the hijacker pilot set a navigational aid relating to the plane's direction. He was heading, it indicated, for Washington, D.C.


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[Assistant] Jeremy Glick still on the phone to his wife. Liz said, I know I could take this guy with the bomb.


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[Assistant] Then, joking, he had mentioned that the hijackers had knives. I still have my butter knife from breakfast.


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[Assistant] Todd Beamer continuing his conversation with the GTE supervisor Jefferson told her that he and a few others were getting together to jump the guy with the bomb.


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[Assistant] Was he sure that that was what he wanted to do? Yes came the response. I'm going to have to go out on faith.


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[Assistant] Operator Jefferson, heard the sounds of an awful commotion, raised voices, more screams. Then, are you guys ready?


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[Assistant] A phrase that in family life he'd like to use to get his children moving.


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[Assistant] Okay, Jeremy Glick told his wife Liz, I'm gonna do it.


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[Assistant] His wife told him he was strong and brave and that she loved him.


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[Assistant] Okay, he said again. I'm gonna put the phone down, I'm gonna leave it here, and I'm gonna come right back to it.


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[Assistant] Liz handed the phone to her father, ran to the bathroom, and gagged.


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[Assistant] Flight attendant Sandra Bradshaw was in the galley boiling water for the passengers to throw on the hijackers.


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[Assistant] On the phone to her husband. She signed off quickly. Everyone's running up to first class. I've gotta go. Bye.


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[Assistant] The cockpit voice recorder registered the moment the hijackers realized what was happening. At just before 9.58, a hijacker asks, Is there something? A fight?


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[Assistant] There's a knock on the door followed by the sounds of fighting. Then in Arabic. Let's go guys! Allah is the greatest! Allah is greatest! Oh guys! Allah is greatest! Oh Allah! Oh Allah! Oh the most gracious!


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[Assistant] A male voice, a native English speaking voice that Tom Burnett's wife has recognized as that of her husband is heard saying, in the cockpit, in the cockpit, followed by a voice exclaiming in Arabic, they want to get in here, hold, hold from the inside, hold.


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[Assistant] Then from several English speakers in unison, hold the door. And then from a single English speaker, stop him. Followed repeatedly by, sit down, sit down. Then again from an English speaker, let's get them.


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[Assistant] Flight 93 now down to 5,000 feet had begun rolling left and right.


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[Assistant] Jeremy Glick's father-in-law listening intently on the phone his daughter had handed to him now heard screams in the background.


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[Assistant] On the cockpit voice recorder, there is the sound of combat continuing. Then in Arabic, there is nothing. Shall we finish it off? No, not yet. When they all come, we finish it off.


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[Assistant] The flight data recorder indicates that the plane pitched up and down, climbed to 10,000 feet, turned.


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[Assistant] Glick's father-in-law, phone clapped to his ear, heard more shrieks, muffled now like those of people riding on a roller coaster.


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[Assistant] From a distance, perhaps, from Todd Beamer. Roll it.


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[Assistant] Crashing sounds, then in Arabic, Allah is the greatest, Allah is the greatest. Is that it? I mean, shall we put it down?


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[Assistant] Cut off the oxygen, cut off the oxygen, cut off the oxygen. Up, down, up, down, up, down. More violent noises for as long as a minute. And then apparently from a native English speaker, shut them off. Go, go, move, move, turn it up.


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[Assistant] Then in Arabic, down, down, pull it down, pull it down, down.


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[Assistant] Apparently from an English speaker. Down. Push. Push. Push. Push. Push.


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[Assistant] Loud air noise on the cockpit recorder.


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[Assistant] Moments later, in Arabic, Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.


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[Assistant] Their sounds of further struggle and a loud shout from a native English speaker. No.


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[Assistant] Two seconds later. In Arabic. In a whisper now. Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.


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[Assistant] Jeremy Glick's father-in-law, still listening on the ground, heard high-pitched screams coming over the line Glick had left open when he left the join to join the rush to the cockpit.


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[Assistant] Then, wind sounds followed by banging noises as though the phone aboard the plane was repeatedly being banged on a hard surface.


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[Assistant] From a book called The 11th Day, which came out in 2011 by Anthony Summers and Robin Swan.


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[Assistant] Flight 93 crashed into a field.


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[Assistant] Near the Diamond Tea Mine in Stony Creek Township, Somerset County, Pennsylvania, killing 33 innocent passengers.


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[Assistant] I'm sure we'll go into more details about the horrors of September 11th.


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[Assistant] You'd probably be multiple podcasts, but for today I wanted to focus on


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[Assistant] Train martial arts in general. Something caught our ears when we heard about the heroics on Flight 93.


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[Assistant] We heard that Jeremy Glick was a martial artist, that he was a wrestler and that he was a judoka.


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[Assistant] Glick was an American national collegiate judo champion. While he was a student at the University of Rochester.


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[Assistant] Seven years after the incident, September 11th, there was a memorial ceremony.


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[Assistant] At the crash site in Pennsylvania and the United States Judo Association placed a granite stone


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[Assistant] There as a memorial with an inscription on it.


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[Assistant] And the inscription reads, the United States Judo Association promoted Jeremy Glick to the highest rank of black belt.


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[Assistant] For living the principle of judo.


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[Assistant] Mutual welfare and benefit. Sacrificing his life for our country, September 11th, 2001.


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[Assistant] Living the principle of judo, and that's a bold statement.


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[Assistant] It indicates something very powerful and very meaningful.


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[Assistant] And as a patriot and as a martial artist and specifically as a jiu-jitsu practitioner, which is where judo was derived from, I wanted to explore a little deeper into the principles of judo to see what we can learn from it.


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[Assistant] And I don't want to go into the full details of explaining the relationships between Jujitsu and Judo, but it is a very close relationship.


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[Assistant] It was one of Jigoro Kano's top students and Kano's the creator of Judo.


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[Assistant] Maida that brought Jiu Jitsu to Brazil from Japan and introduced Jiu Jitsu to Carlos and Elio Gracie and that's the beginning of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu as we know it today and Maida even called it Jiu Jitsu. He didn't call it Judo and


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[Assistant] From what I understand at that time, even Kano had not been actually calling it Judo in Japan. He hadn't renamed it yet.


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[Assistant] He was still calling it Jujitsu and some people were calling it Kano Jujitsu or Kodokan Jujitsu but Jujitsu, especially Brazilian Jujitsu is without question rooted in Judo and


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[Assistant] If you trace it back just a little bit further, Judo is also rooted back into Jujitsu. That's where Judo came from. Judo came from Jujitsu.


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[Assistant] And mixed in with all that, there's all kinds of...


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[Assistant] Evolution and there's changes and there's politics and there's history but there's that thread that ties them all together. And that thread can be recognized in


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[Assistant] The same principles that played a role in Jeremy Glick's attitude on that.


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[Assistant] And perhaps we can all learn something from those principles and to look at those principles. I thought it would be best to go to the source and I have a book called Mind Over Muscle that is


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[Assistant] Kano was a very interesting person. He was a, he was an educator.


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[Assistant] He was a pioneer in sports, he worked with the Olympic committee, he was a jiu-jitsu practitioner, eventually founded Judo, and he founded the most famous Judo school, the original Judo school, the Kodokan.


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[Assistant] And the book, like I said, as you can tell by the title, it's a compilation of different sources of his writings. And there's a little bit of overlap and repeat and I'll do a little bit of that. But what I like about it is it gives a good


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[Assistant] Overall view of the ideas and the vision that Kano had for Judah.


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[Assistant] I know there's a lot of judo practitioners out there and obviously a lot of jujitsu practitioners out there that listen to the podcast and everyone knows that these two are closely related and sometimes there's, uh, I guess you'd say tension between the two. Sometimes.


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[Assistant] The fact of the matter is they're so closely related that it's, it'd be more, it'd be more intelligent instead of look for the tension between the two to find where the two can complement each other.


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[Assistant] So, here we're going to the book. And once again, the book is Mind Over Muscle writings from the founder of Judo. Jikoro Kano.


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[Assistant] And here we go to start it off. The purpose of jujitsu.


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[Assistant] So interestingly, he starts this off talking about Jujitsu. He's not even talking about Judo yet. The original purpose of Jujitsu was to practice a method of combat.


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[Assistant] While combat may have been at the core of Jujitsu practice,


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[Assistant] It also had the related goals of physical education and mental training.


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[Assistant] There's little dispute that because training to fight involves moving the body in various ways, Jujitsu indirectly became a form of physical education, but for the same reason, it also became a method for training the mind. All forms of combat require ingenuity.


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[Assistant] And the use of various tricks and devices. So all forms of combat. All forms of combat. This is important.


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[Assistant] Because if you're a soldier, or you're a marine, or you're an airman right now,


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[Assistant] We're talking about everything that you do. And I'll tell you what, if you're a business person, we're talking about what you're doing too.


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[Assistant] All forms of combat require ingenuity and the use of various tricks and devices. So in the course of jujitsu training, the mind is unconsciously trained in many ways. Courage, composer, composure, and other traits that are beneficial in life can also be developed. Now, I'll tell you what, this is important. Because people ask me a lot, like,


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, how'd you figure all this stuff out, Jaco? When people ask me that.


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[Assistant] You know, I always try and explain, you know, like it was a long course and I was in the military for a long time and I had an open mind and I listened and paid attention to the people that were leading me and I paid attention to the good ones and I paid attention to the bad ones.


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[Assistant] But I'll tell you, if I didn't, Jujitsu opened my mind up and did these things, and again, unconsciously, like I started to perceive things the way that I was learning Jujitsu.


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[Assistant] And that's why, and I've got some, I've got, you know, I've got friends that I've gotten into jiu-jitsu over the years.


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[Assistant] You can tell, and I don't know what makes some people get the bug and some people don't get the bug. But.


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[Assistant] If you get the bug and you start to think in a jujitsu mindset, then you'll, it'll really open up your mind. Now that being said,


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[Assistant] There's some people that are heavily into jiu-jitsu, but they don't apply jiu-jitsu to...


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[Assistant] The, the other aspects of their life, which is a big mistake. It's a big mistake.


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[Assistant] You gotta apply it both ways and I think that's one of the things that Kano was trying to do with Judo was to ensure that you did that. To ensure that his students did that.


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[Assistant] Alright. Back to the book. It was my belief.


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[Assistant] That with a few improvements, Jujitsu could become a comprehensive method of physical education, intellectual training, and moral education.


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[Assistant] I therefore spent several years developing my ideas and finally established the Kodokon Judo.


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[Assistant] I did this by thoroughly researching the Jujitsu that had existed up until the time


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[Assistant] Up until that time, as much as possible, keeping what I felt should be kept, discarding what I felt should be discarded, thoroughly studying the techniques and theories and establishing them in a way that would be most applicable to today's society. He's not even talking about just combat, he's talking about like, he's not just talking about fighting, he's talking about applying these things to society.


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[Assistant] I think he was young when he did this too. He established the Kodakon at a very young age. I wanna say he was like 22 years old. He was really young. So he studied Jujitsu.


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[Assistant] Thought some things were good about it, thought some things were bad about it, and so I'm gonna make my own deal.


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[Assistant] Now, here we talk a little bit here. There were, there were various reasons why I chose not to use the term jujitsu, which described what was ordinarily practiced and instead employ the name judo. The main reason was that dou, the dou part of judo, it means way.


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[Assistant] Is the major force, is the major focus of what the Kodakon teaches. Whereas Jitsu skill is incidental. I also wanted to make it clear that Judo was a means of embarking on the way.


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[Assistant] He saw this as like a complete, a complete life system, right? Not, not just fighting. This is the way. Judo is the way for him. And that's why instead of calling it jujitsu, he called it, you know, not, not techniques, but like the way.


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[Assistant] Back to the book, when we talk about Jujitsu today, people often think of a technique in which one does only dangerous things such as choking an opponent and bending his joints or even in extreme cases killing him.


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[Assistant] Essentially, we think of something that is harmful to the whole, to the body, while offering no benefits. True Jiu-Jitsu does not espouse this. In particular, the Kodokan Judo I devised never involves doing anything dangerous. I cannot stress enough that what I advocate is far from a violent or dangerous sport.


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[Assistant] Sure, I understand the principle there, but just so everyone knows, judo doesn't play around. If you've gone with a high level judo player, you are getting thrown hard and aggressively onto your head.


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[Assistant] Head. It's a brutal sport. It's uh, it's very aggressive.


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[Assistant] Let's say some sort of a basic takedown compared to like a full


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[Assistant] Alright, here we go. Uh, back to the book. The organization of Kodokon Judo is basically the same today as it was when I established it. But at that time, when explaining Judo, I divided it into three parts.


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[Assistant] It's used as a fighting method, martial art, as a training method, physical education, and as a method of mental training, including the development of the intellect and morals and the application of the principles of judo to everyday life.


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[Assistant] See, this is again, this is what's interesting to me is, and he said it was subconscious, like I subconsciously, especially the beginning with jujitsu, and I'll tell you, it was beyond just me applying


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[Assistant] Jujitsu to like my life and to what I had learned about combat. I also took what I had learned about combat.


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[Assistant] One of the, one of the biggest wake up calls that you get early in Jiu Jitsu is like, oh, what I need to do is attack your neck, and when you defend your neck, I take your arm. Right. That's a flank, right? That's just a straight up flank. That's, that's a game changer. Like that's a complete game changer. When you realize that,


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[Assistant] That's a complete game changer. There's a seal buddy of mine that had been training when I first started out. He'd been training for like a year.


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[Assistant] No, but he'd been training off and on, kind of, bits and pieces, and so then I started training hardcore, like every day. So after like, two weeks, like literally two weeks, I went and trained with him, and I, and I got him, like a bunch of times, and I was all pumped up.


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[Assistant] And, and I said to him, I was like, hey, you know what, the mistake that you're making is you're trying.


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[Assistant] And then like a week later we rolled again, and he got me. He did what I told him to do to me. And I was like, oh dang. Oh dang. So that was a big wake up call. It's a big, not even a, it's a revelation when you realize, oh you've got to do, you've got to fight the person. That's what you have to do. Big wake up call.


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[Assistant] You wanna attack that ego? Yep. Alright. Back to the book. Two methods of instruction are used.


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[Assistant] Kata, which is form, and randori, which is free practice. It's what we call in the jiu-jitsu.


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[Assistant] This is rather like teaching composition without using a grammar book, or teaching the basis of grammar while teaching how to write an essay. So this is like, hey man, write this down and you're gonna make some corrections, and like that's, that's basically rolling live, right?


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[Assistant] When there were only a few people undergoing the training, this was not a problem. But the number of beginners gradually increased and it became impossible to teach kata at the same time as randori. So a few years after I established kodakon judo, I created 15 kata for throws and 10 kata for combat.


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[Assistant] That's a big change, right? There's a big, big change. For anyone that's not into martial arts, there's a big, big difference between rolling and learning kata. And as a matter of fact, we make fun of kata, right? I'm not saying that's a good thing, but we, I shouldn't say we completely make fun of it, but like, I'll see Dean, and let's say he's, I can tell he's tired.


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[Assistant] No, no, we're gonna train, right? So, when I say make fun of it. Yea, you don't make fun of it. Because what we call kata basically in jiu jitsu, we call it drilling. You're gonna drill this. Drill, drill, drill. Which drilling is part of winning. You gotta drill to win.


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[Assistant] Andre Galvao. Drillers make killers. Drillers make killers. There's all those things. That being said, we all know.


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[Assistant] If you do nothing but drill, you're not gonna be able to pull these moves off going live. And this, with the old tradi- what we now call traditional martial arts,


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[Assistant] That was all kata. And all kata will get you nowhere.


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[Assistant] That's when the guys, when you saw the 90's, when the jiu-jitsu invasion happened, you know, the guy would try his 12 point strike, kata method against a blue belt jiu-jitsu, the blue belt would do a sloppy double leg, take him down to the ground and choke him out.


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[Assistant] Cause they rolled live. They did randori. So.


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[Assistant] You have to have balance, but you gotta train live randori. And at the same time, you gotta drill too. So, be careful. Don't do too much at once.


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[Assistant] This is the same thing, this is the same thing like when I was training guys in the teams, like you could teach them the basics of how to enter a room and then how to move down a hallway, but as soon as you put another person in there going against them, different things happen.


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[Assistant] Different things are gonna happen, and you gotta be ready for it. So you have to go live. I've told you this story before, but when I first started playing basketball,


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[Assistant] And my coach, I had the old school, had the old school Hoosiers coach, right? Yea. You know the old school, you've seen the movie Hoosiers? No. Oh, dang! So, in Hoosiers, the guy's old school coach, like, hey, no, you're not even allowed to shoot, we're defense, defense, defense, run the drills, drill, drill, drill. We never scrimmaged. And the first time I played in a real game, it was the first time I played a real game,


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[Assistant] I went down the court and like called the play and expected to be able to execute the play that we had run the little pattern and the other point guard just picked me off. I was in 7th or 8th grade. He just picked off every pass I threw. I was just, cause I had never done Randori on the basketball court. Never scrimmaged, never played. You know, you gotta balance those two. Alright.


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[Assistant] Next, back to the book. Next, I would like to briefly discuss free practice involving throwing and grappling techniques, which I will refer to by their Japanese names.


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[Assistant] So the two Japanese names that he's gonna use are Katami Waza and Nagawazi. Now, now waza means technique, right? And you probably knew that. A lot of us, a lot of us in jujitsu we talk about, or we, what we know about judo, we talk about nawaza.


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[Assistant] And N-E-W-A-Z-A. NWASA means groundwork. That's what it means. Matwork. Basically is what it means. I think, I think...


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[Assistant] The N-E actually means like laying down or sleeping or something like that, so it means you're down on the ground.


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[Assistant] Katamiwaza is the- Katamiwaza is like the grappling part. But you're not necessarily-


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[Assistant] You're not necessarily laying down in all grappling positions. So that's why they call it katami waza.


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[Assistant] But Nagiwaza is the throws. Alright, so here we go. Back to the book. When I was training, I practiced Katami Waza quite a bit, but after coming to appreciate Nagiwaza, I came to believe that Nagiwaza should be emphasized in the technical training aspects of Judo.


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[Assistant] This does not mean I considered Katamiwaza to be useless, of course, but I stress practicing Nagawaza first.


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[Assistant] Followed then by Katami Walze. So, he focused on the throwing techniques.


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[Assistant] This is because doing Katami Waza first hinders progress in Nagi Waza.


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[Assistant] While it makes sense that learning Nagawaza first makes it easier to remember Katamiwaza as at a later stage. When I established Kodakon,


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[Assistant] I encourage the practice of Nagiwaza precisely for that reason. As a result, at that time, a great, great number of experts in Nagiwaza were fostered in the early years of the Kodokan. As a result of emphasizing Nagiwaza, however, Katamiwaza gradually became neglected.


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[Assistant] That's very interesting. So anyone that knows anything about Judo and Jiu-Jitsu, one of the biggest differences is in Jiu-Jitsu we focused a ton on groundwork.


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[Assistant] Well, you could say too much, right? Because there's, there's, there's jiu-jitsu people that don't know how to take someone down. And that's very problematic. So,


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[Assistant] He's saying that, hey, he focused on that, and you can kinda hear what he's saying, so...


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[Assistant] If you, it's real easy to ignore the stand up when you realize how effective the ground game is. And you also realize that if you, if you understand how to take the person down, then you, then you're gonna get in good positions and all that. So, he just kinda leaned in that direction. And says that it ends up getting a little bit neglected. And also, if you don't know the rules of judo,


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[Assistant] Emphasize the takedowns because the rules of judo if I take you down if I throw you with an hip on which means Something some other body part other than your feet touches the ground before your feet do During a throw I win automatically instant win. It's like a submission. Yes


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[Assistant] And so because of that, they practice a lot of stand-up. Whereas in jiu-jitsu, you can get thrown ten times, and you can still catch a person in a triangle, and you win. You can be on the ground, doesn't matter. And you can get pinned in judo too.


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[Assistant] If you get held down for 30 seconds, about 30, I think it's 30 seconds on your back, you get pinned, you lose. That doesn't happen in Jiu Jitsu. You can have someone cross-sided on you for 4, 7, 8 minutes. Just, you haven't even moved. You didn't lose and you sneak out of there and grab a little Kimura. You get the victory.


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[Assistant] Back to the book. At the Kodacon we study and practice techniques with the purpose of using mental and physical energy most effi- most effectively in order to achieve one's goal no matter what the endeavor, which is the basic principle of Judo. And he's gonna talk about this a ton. The basic principle of Judo is like efficiency.


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[Assistant] So those in training do not merely, now, but this is so important. Those in training do not merely imitate the actions of the master or practice without understanding the reasons behind what they are doing.


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[Assistant] But rather consider the methods and train in accordance with detailed principles. For that reason, what once took five or six years to achieve can now be accomplished in three years.


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[Assistant] This is huge in jiu-jitsu and I saw this transition take place when I started learning jiu-jitsu, we learned moves.


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[Assistant] Now everyone teaches concepts. I mean, you still teach moves, but if you don't know the principles of them and it's the same thing when I was teaching guys in the teams, like you teach them a maneuver on the battlefield. You can learn the mechanics of the move on the battlefield, but if you don't understand why those mechanics are important, then it doesn't make you don't even have, you don't have it. You don't get it. Same thing in the business world. You can tell someone like, Hey,


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[Assistant] Here's what you should tell your subordinates right now. But that technique, they can use it and it'll work okay, but that's nothing compared to saying here's why it's important that you tell your subordinates this thing and here's how you want to lead them. That's what gives them the game is when they understand the principles.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like trying to teach someone if you, if you, if you had a non-native English speaker and you walk in and you're going to teach him


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[Assistant] Back to the book. Various records and accounts have been passed down over the ages with regard to the true meaning of jujitsu. Then he's talking about the actual word jujitsu. But few of them are accurate.


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[Assistant] It can be said though, that the name apparently derived from the expression Juyoko Go Oshishu.


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[Assistant] Let's assume I have an opponent who possesses power val- to the value of 10.


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[Assistant] Whereas I must face this opponent with power only to the value of seven. When my opponent thrusts at me with all of his energy, it follows that if I resist, I will be overcome, even if I expend all my power.


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[Assistant] If, however, rather than resist my more powerful opponent, I adjust and adapt to his energy and pull back, he will fall forward under the strength of his own attack. His power of ten will become merely a power of three, and he will stumble and lose his balance.


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[Assistant] I will not be pulled off balance and can pull away, maintain my stance, and retain my original power of seven.


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[Assistant] In short, resisting a more powerful opponent will result in your defeat. Whilst adjusting you to and evading your opponent's attack will cause him to lose his balance, his power will be reduced and you will defeat him.


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[Assistant] This can apply whatever the relative values of power, thus making it possible for weaker opponents to beat significantly stronger ones. There you go.


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[Assistant] That's the way it works. Can a level 10 beat a level, can a level 1 beat a level 10? That's tricky. There's a, there's a, there's a point, right? Yea. There's a point where, like, yea.


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[Assistant] But this is one of those things, this is one of those things that I subconsciously learned from Jujitsu. And I applied it all the time, especially in dealing with relationships. And I've talked about it here a million times of like, hey don't attack the ego, don't attack the strong point, right? That's just complete...


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[Assistant] Even if you use full power. In fact, it's gonna be worse for you. Especially if the other guy knows he's gonna use that seven. He's gonna use that. In addition to his ten, he's gonna beat you with a seventeen to zero.


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[Assistant] That's like a dude said the other day.


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[Assistant] Uhm, jiu-jitsu is not important, as important in the UFC as it was. The guy that just beat Verdoom.


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[Assistant] Big, tall, badass guy from Russia. Kalkov or something. Uh, sorry bro. Uh, he, but he said, hey, it's not as important anymore. And the fact that, but you're right. You know why it's not as important? Cause everybody knows it. So yea, it's not as important. If you roll in there without knowing any jiu-jitsu, you're gonna get submitted. You see how important it is. Yea, exactly. Alright, back to the book. There's a popular parable that goes thus. A jiu-jitsu-ka.


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[Assistant] Which means a jiu-jitsu practitioner was grabbed by a sumo wrestler. At that point, the jiu-jitsu-ka said, you're a sumo wrestler, yet you can't grab any tighter than that. Angered, the sumo wrestler attempted to adjust his grip. As he did so, he loosened it slightly. At that moment, the jiu-jitsu-ka quickly lowered his body and escaped from the sumo wrestler's grip. Alright.


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[Assistant] And I apologize to everyone that speaks Japanese. I'm sorry. Tim Ferriss, I'm sorry. I should have waited for you to come and do this with me so you could correct me. But here we go. One's mental and physical energy must be used most effe- effectively in order to achieve a certain goal.


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[Assistant] That is to say, one must apply the most effective method or technique for using the mind and body. If we use the term serioco,


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[Assistant] For one's mental and physical energy, this should be expressed shiryoku shazen katsuyo, which means best use of one's energy. We can shorten this simply to shiryoku zenyo, which means maximum efficiency.


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[Assistant] Maximum efficiency. This means that no matter what the goal, no matter what the goal, in order to achieve it, you must put your mental and physical energy to work in the most effective manner. This is like common sense, right? But how often are we wasting energy? How often are we wasting energy? We're wasting energy all the time.


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[Assistant] Back to the book. When I was a child, I learned the jiu-jitsu of the past. However, that jiu-jitsu had no basic principle. I learned various methods from one teacher. He taught me how to place my hips and pull to throw an opponent and how to choke someone, but he did not teach me anything about what principles were involved or how to apply those principles.


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[Assistant] But that's, I think that's the same that as Jujitsu hit America, I think everyone was learning like that. Like here's how you choke someone, but you weren't learning the system.


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[Assistant] As I studied further, I found that one teacher taught differed from what another taught. There was no basis upon which to decide which one was correct. That was the reason I began to make a thorough study of Jujitsu. Now, what I would say about that is,


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[Assistant] You don't need to decide which one is correct. Like when you learn an armbar from one person, you learn an armbar from someone else, you're gonna learn...


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[Assistant] Good things from both of them. Neither one of them is correct and one of them might be correct in this situation or with this body style and the other one's correct in a different situation with a different body style. I think if we looked at Kano's personality traits, like he's a guy that's real orderly.


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[Assistant] And I think that's, yea, he's a real guy, like Jordan Peterson, people would put him in the high conscientious and high, high and orderly. He's a very orderly person. And so for him, like, there's a right answer and there's a wrong answer.


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[Assistant] And I think you see that in judo and that's why judo is much more...


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[Assistant] You see that all day. That's, see that's, that's the, that's one of the reasons I wanted to talk about this is like that is a quality thing. You know it's too, and I guess this is different on the east coast or west coast.


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[Assistant] The east coast, like one of my buddies, Joe, he came and watched some wrestling with me, some high school wrestling, and they, I forget what, they penalized people like, oh no, you're not allowed to do that. Like, they're strict. When you get done, when you get done,


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[Assistant] Wrestling, you just got pinned, you get up, you get to the center of the mat, you put your hand out to shake hands, that's it. There's no complaining to the ref, there's none of this other crap. No, you do what you're supposed to do. And that's awesome. Cause you know what that teaches people? It teaches people how to control their emotions.


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[Assistant] And you could say like UFC, I mean, it's really cool. It's so much cooler when someone wins and they just are like,


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[Assistant] And just a cold-blooded killer that just comes out. And you know what's interesting, sometimes fighters do it, uhm.


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[Assistant] I think I was watching Cowboy Saroni the other day, he like knocked some guy out and just walked away like it was nothing.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, there's a dichotomy. I think the preferred method though is cold blooded.


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[Assistant] Just go sit around and watch old Fedor fight, so. You know, Sakuraba was kinda like that. Sakuraba didn't celebrate. Without Sakuraba. Yeah, of course.


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[Assistant] You don't have to choose, like this one's right and this one's wrong. You need to absorb both those methodologies and have them both in your toolkit because you might need them.


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[Assistant] Uh, here's some stuff that's interesting.


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[Assistant] Calisthenics are generally based on physiology and anatomy, so they do not result in the development of unbalanced body, nor are they harmful to the internal organs.


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[Assistant] But they are not without, without drawbacks. Because each individual movement has no meaning.


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[Assistant] And because calisthenics have no secondary benefits, they are uninteresting. Calisthenics are widely used in Japan and abroad, but few students continue to do them after graduating from school.


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[Assistant] This is because they are a meaningless form of exercise and not of any practical use. No matter how much they are taught in schools, if people do not continue to practice them, there is very little value in teaching them.


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[Assistant] Cold-blooded, speaking of cold-blooded. I dig it.


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[Assistant] So, what should be done? We need to adopt the strong points of calisthenics and compensate for their shortcomings. Of course there are various possibilities, but for now I've come up with these two ideas. First, the first is calisthenics that incorporate training for the defense of, for the defense against attack. So, the first one is like you come up with


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[Assistant] Is they'd have to do 5 sprawls and max pull ups every minute on the minute for 5 minutes. Just 5 minutes. See how many pull ups they could get. So you do 5 sprawls and you do as many pull ups as you can to see


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's legit. But anyways, sprawls, that's an exercise where it reflects exactly the movement that you would do on the mat. Now here we go back to the book. My other idea could be called dance style.


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[Assistant] And I'm not gonna get into, he talks about it, he's basically saying like, hey, you come up with dance moves that are fun, that work your body. And what I thought of immediately, when I, when I thought, when I read that, I was like thinking about all the, all the, uh,


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[Assistant] I guess is b-boys and breakdancing the same thing?


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[Assistant] Okay, so like the 10th planet guys, a bunch of the 10th planet guys came from the breakdancing background, and they have the physical attributes, the flexibility, the strength from that, and it turns out to be awesome for jiu-jitsu. So there's a good, and you can find that with gymnastics people too, like gymnastics, here's a skill.


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[Assistant] But I guess his point is, in his mind, that's now fun somehow. See, in my mind, like, it's not fun. What, the breakdancing? Like, to me, doing a breakdance move, compared to doing a pushup,


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[Assistant] Yeah, you'd rather do the push-up? Well, I mean, there's not a huge difference, right?


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[Assistant] You know? And, well, wrestlers obviously come in at a high level. Gymn- anyone that's really good at gymnastics has that same kind of awareness and they have some crazy strength. Yea, that's true. So yea, maybe that is a good thing for the- for the judo players to come up with some kind of a-


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[Assistant] A dance. A dance. Well what about capoeira?


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[Assistant] B-Boys. B-Boys. Capoeira. Capoeira guys. Jeff Higgs went from Jiu Jitsu to Capoeira.


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[Assistant] Fabio, Fabio Santos, our old teacher was like, HIGS!


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[Assistant] Most people would find Capoeira and go, oh that seems cool, but then you get choked out and you're like, I'm gonna learn to do this.


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[Assistant] Particularly oppose Japan's conventional methods of physical education, but I would like to devise the best form of physical education and recommend as many people as possible. Take it up thus.


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[Assistant] Resulting in a form of physical education that at the same time achieves worthwhile goals.


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[Assistant] That is cool, right? Like that's one of the coolest things about jujitsu is, you are getting in shape, and you are learning how to choke people out. Which is a really beneficial thing. And for all the people that say, well I want to start jujitsu but I need to get in shape first, no you don't. You just need to start jujitsu and you'll get in shape along the way.


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[Assistant] Back to the book, the prosperity of a nation can be hoped for only with an energized populace that


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[Assistant] Vitality dep- and that vitality depends on the mental and physical training of the people.


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[Assistant] The powerful nations of the world have explored every avenue in order to build their national strength and they are paying particular attention to physical education and endeavoring to promote vitality of their citizens through their own unique methods.


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[Assistant] Well, that sounds good, and it was true at one time, but in America right now, we're getting pretty weak on physical education. Need to step it up. Step it up. Step it up. You ever seen that video of the old school, they did some experimental gym class somewhere in California?


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[Assistant] And like the crazy obstacle courses like in the f- maybe the 40s or the 50s. And they had crazy obstacle courses, they had this- and like every kid looked like a complete beast.


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[Assistant] And you're like, yeah, why wouldn't you do that? Why wouldn't gym class at school?


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[Assistant] So we don't wanna put you on the spot, and you know what? We're just gonna not do pushups. In fact, you know what we're gonna do for PE? Weave baskets. Basket weaving.


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[Assistant] It's good old math. Look at you. Well, it is right now. But, you know, there's the universities for sure that have like, well there's no grades here.


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[Assistant] If everyone got a 96, I don't care. You're average.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well I'd be impressed with the teacher, but I wouldn't be impressed with my kid if they just got the same as everyone else. They need to step it up. What if they all got hundreds?


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[Assistant] Still not impressed. Well, it's a good job, but I'm not impressed. I'm impressed.


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[Assistant] Credit? My what? My little daughter will come home. Alright, she'll be like...


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[Assistant] On the math test. And I'll be like, which one did you miss?


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[Assistant] Back to the book. Intellectual, now he's talking about intellectual training. Intellectual training involves both the acquisition of knowledge and the cultivation of mental power.


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[Assistant] And whereas one cannot discuss these entirely, as entirely separate things, it is nevertheless true that people with a great deal of knowledge do not necessarily have exceptional powers of reasoning or judgment.


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[Assistant] That's important. Just cause you went to some course doesn't mean that you know.


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[Assistant] So in fact, these two things can be looked at separately. So there's a big difference between, you know, having information and having, I guess we'd say wisdom. What does he call it?


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[Assistant] Reasoning and judgment. I'd call reasoning and judgment combined together. I'd call that wisdom.


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[Assistant] And now he talks about moral education.


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[Assistant] Back to the book. In one respect, moral education must be carried out from the aspect of knowledge. That is to say it is necessary to know intellectually what is good and what is evil.


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[Assistant] It is also necessary to develop the intelligence to distinguish right from wrong in various complex situations. Thus it is necessary to teach the ability to determine good from bad.


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[Assistant] To discriminate what is right from what is wrong. This is something that I think we're getting away from.


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[Assistant] Hey, you know what, that's actually wrong. Like, the whole idea you've, you've, you hear people, and I think it's, I think they wrap this around a political conversation or a political viewpoint of there's some people that say, like, no, evil actually exists.


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[Assistant] And some people just say, well no, people are different and people are raised differently and all that. I'm, I'm one of the people that like I believe evil exists. And, and...


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[Assistant] I think you can teach, and you have to teach people how to tell the difference between right and wrong. There's some things that are wrong. There's some things in the world that are wrong.


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[Assistant] To discern, okay, that's wrong. With all that, I think there's a, there's a line. Yeah. That I think is, you can call. Yeah, and it goes all the way down. I think it's very hard to call.


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[Assistant] Yeah. But what I'm, I guess you're saying the same thing I'm saying. Which is like, you need to teach people and explain what the value system is to people.


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[Assistant] Back to the book, in another sense moral education must be carried out from the aspect of the emotions.


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[Assistant] Even if you can distinguish right from wrong intellectually, if you are not trained emotionally to like what is good and dislike what is evil, your ability to do good and reject evil will be lacking.


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[Assistant] So, if morals are not cultivated both intellectually and emotionally, good results cannot be achieved. This is big stuff. This is heavy stuff.


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[Assistant] To do good and reject evil, if your willpower is weak, the opposite result will often occur. Therefore, training of the will must also be an element of moral education. A weak willpower can result in the inability to do what you know is right or the inability to prevent doing what you know is wrong.


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[Assistant] This is very important stuff. A weak willpower will allow bad things to happen.


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[Assistant] Back to the book, it is also important not to overlook the element of habit.


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[Assistant] Even if you intend to do good, if you have not developed the habit of doing so, your best intentions will easily be corrupted. And even the best intentions of rejecting evil can fail if you have not developed the habit of doing so.


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[Assistant] That whole, you know, when I talk about the fact that like if you make good decisions, like if you wake up early, that goes, that's a habit. And that helps you, that strengthens your ability to reject weakness.


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[Assistant] Whereas if you sleep in, you're lazy, you hit the snooze button, you're double fisting donuts into your mouth, guess what? You're gonna be weak. Then I'll tell you something else.


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[Assistant] And I've been talking about this, or I've been thinking about this, I've been talking about this, but I've been thinking about this.


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[Assistant] The way, the way that you live, every little thing that you do, like those actions that you take on a daily basis, that's who you are.


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[Assistant] And if you don't train correctly, if you don't live correctly, when the moment of truth comes, you won't be able to execute correctly.


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[Assistant] The way you, it's like, it's a classic of the way you train. The way you train is how you fight, right? If you don't train hard, you're not gonna fight hard. If you push yourself mentally, when the time comes you'll be able to push yourself, you'll be able to push yourself mentally. If you're weak in training, you'll be weak in war. That's the way it is.


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[Assistant] Well, actually I think you're saying something different. I know what you're saying and what you're saying is absolutely true too. I'm saying little


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[Assistant] I'm saying the little things matter is what I'm saying. The way you live is the way you live is what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] What you're saying is also important. Like, hey, you got this? What are you gonna do with it?


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[Assistant] That's what you're saying, and that also is important. Like, okay, well you worked for this, but now what are you gonna do with it? You got this gift, what are you gonna do with this gift? You got this talent, what are you gonna do with this talent? You got this education, what are you gonna do with this education? Those are also important.


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[Assistant] And what I'm saying is, if you don't develop the habit of putting things into place and being efficient and working hard, you can take those gifts, those talents and that education and you can piss it away. That's what I'm saying. If you're used to


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[Assistant] Taking the easy road, you get that knowledge, you don't do anything with it.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying. Every day, every little decision you make matters. It matters. It matters what you do.


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[Assistant] Expanding this out a little bit back to the book, if each member of a group helps others and acts selflessly, the group can be harmonious and act as one. Accordingly, the group can make the best use of its energy just like an individual. This principle remains true even in the case of a complex society with a population of millions.


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[Assistant] You help each other out. This is very, this is what, this is, you know, this is like a SEAL team, right? This is like a SEAL platoon. You help each other, you support each other, that's what makes you good.


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[Assistant] Here's another one. Let's say someone draws a sword on you. This is getting back into training a little. Let's say someone draws a sword on you. Any hesitations in your actions will result in you being injured or killed.


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[Assistant] You must react automatically, instinctively, just as when you blink impulsively when a fly approaches your eye.


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[Assistant] You must dodge your attacker in instant. In order to do this, you must practice this as physical education and train on a regular basis to build up your body while also undergoing martial arts training.


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[Assistant] So, I like this idea of a fly getting in your eye, right? The fly doesn't hit your eye, you blink. That's what happens, you have the instinct. And what's cool, I see this with extreme ownership. When people first hear about the concept, like it's foreign to them.


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[Assistant] Back to the book, Judo began with the study of martial arts and then it gradually became clear that it could be applied to physical education, intellectual training, moral education, social engagement, management, and people's everyday lives. Some people believe that Judo means simply practicing at the dojo.


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[Assistant] This is applying the principle of Judo at the dojo when practicing defense against attack and though it certainly is one aspect of Judo is only a small part of it. With Judo in every endeavor you must imagine the best goal.


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[Assistant] And use your mental and physical energy in the most effective manner in order to accomplish that goal. For that reason, Judo is not merely a martial art, but rather the basic principle of human behavior.


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[Assistant] It is wrong to assume judo ends in the dojo. So, he's saying apply this everywhere. I'm saying you should do that. You can do it with jiu jitsu.


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[Assistant] Zen you. Certain teachings have a long tradition, so most people accept them. But when people do not understand why they are taught a certain way, conflicts can sometimes arise. To give example, virtually no one doubts that diligence is a good thing.


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[Assistant] Right? No one doubts that diligence is a good thing. If diligence is always a good thing, it follows that there can be no situation in which being diligent is bad.


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[Assistant] But if you are diligent in an irresponsible manner, you will spend a great deal of effort on something that is not very useful and expend the energy required to do something good wastefully.


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[Assistant] You must carefully choose something for which diligence is suited.


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[Assistant] Even when we do what we believe to be best, overdoing something can be harmful. When students stay up late reading a book because their teacher's parents or society has deemed it best that they should read it, this is certainly diligence, but is also detrimental to their health to read for so long.


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[Assistant] Conversely, you cannot do things half-heartedly or randomly. So. You gotta stay balanced.


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[Assistant] Let us turn to an annoying yet pervasive habit people all too often display, complaining.


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[Assistant] What is the point of complaining? It is certainly no fun for those who have to listen to the complaints. The energy used to make an unpleasant complaint can certainly not be considered...


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[Assistant] Rather, all the energy used to complain or grumble should be expended more usefully. This means ridding oneself of unpleasant feelings and refraining from harboring ill will towards others. In this end,


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[Assistant] In the end, this will result in putting one's energy to the best use not only for oneself, but also for the betterment of society. This principle should be applied every day at all times.


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[Assistant] Don't waste your energy on stuff that doesn't matter. Back to the book, if people are always aware of their current situation and set a standard for their future based on doing what will benefit themselves and society and continually regulate their behavior, they can be satisfied with their lives at all times.


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[Assistant] When you try to do this, you'll find that your future prospects are always bright. That is because you're doing what is best. How, how common sense is this? Right? And it's so common sense, but how, how many people do you know that follow this path? That's the question.


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[Assistant] You picked up on it very well because it says if people are always aware of their current situation meaning they need to be detached.


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[Assistant] And then set a standard for the future based on doing things that, just think, it's the same thing. Think, is it smart to do things that will benefit themselves and society, continually, continually regulate your behavior so that you're satisfied with your life at all? Of course, that makes sense.


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[Assistant] Why don't we do it? We get off the path, we get on the slippery slope.


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[Assistant] This is interesting. Through Judo, we are teaching a principle that can work together with the highest principles of Buddhism and Christianity and the exhaustive studies of philosophers.


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[Assistant] One which like other great philosophies and religions can be put into action.


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[Assistant] This principle of judo offers a basic principle that can provide a sound answer for every situation and every question. The easiest way to master this basic principle is to practice the waza of judo and to embark on the dough, the way.


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[Assistant] That is because through practice that incorporates both a martial art and physical education, one can learn a method for making the most effective use of one's mental and physical energy. Then one naturally learns how to apply this method to every aspect of human affairs.


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[Assistant] I believe that this basic principle is the most appropriate method for resolving various moral issues.


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[Assistant] And he puts a lot of weight on the Judo. A lot of weight on the Judo. Judo is life. Yeaah. With regard to our daily activities and social interaction, the teaching of Siruko Zenyo means bringing about maximum results through the use of every sort of energy. For this reason,


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[Assistant] Human faults like anger, for example, violate this principle. Becoming angry consumes mental energy. How does anger benefit you or anyone else? The result of anger are invariably a depletion of mental energy and being looked down on or disliked by others.


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[Assistant] By following the principle of Sirio Cudzeno.


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[Assistant] People will not be able to get angry. Being disappointed or troubled by failures or setbacks or harboring grievances are also ways in which mental energy is consumed. Arguments, fights, all of these are violations of Sirio Coseño.


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[Assistant] Those who practice judo must take great care to follow this teaching. No matter what the situation, there is only one path that people must follow. In every case, the only course is to consider what is the right thing to do and proceed in that direction.


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[Assistant] I have coined a phrase that I regularly say to people, there is only one path in life, conducting yourself in accordance with this principle on a daily basis is vitally important.


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[Assistant] Though human beings may reach the pinnacle of success, there is only one path down which to proceed. That is to say, because complacency gives rise to the cause of failure, you must always consider things carefully until you find the appropriate course of action and proceed that way.


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[Assistant] Even when you fail, there's only one path down which to proceed. Even if once you fail and lose heart, if you regain your courage and find your way along the highest path.


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[Assistant] The highest path, circumstances will gradually improve. That's like Jordan Peterson talking, right? Hey, you know, like...


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[Assistant] Get on, do the right thing. Pick a little thing and start proving that thing. Clean your room. Because they find their own paths, those who practice Judo and who follow the principle of Siriyo Kuzenyu always have a calm spirit, enjoy life, and are enterprising.


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[Assistant] The most advanced mental life can only be achieved when people thoroughly absorb this principle.


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[Assistant] Maximum efficiency. What are you doing that is taking away your energy? What are you wasting your energy on?


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[Assistant] Back to the book, a true, a person's true value is determined by how much he or she contributes to society during his or her life.


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[Assistant] And because these very contributions enable those who strive to protect themselves to achieve this, the purpose of Judo is to perfect yourself so that you can contribute to society.


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[Assistant] This applies to ordinary people as well. Again, this is very, very similar to what Jordan Peterson talks about.


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[Assistant] You're like, you, you need to, if you, if you fix your world, well, you're impacting everyone's world around you.


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[Assistant] This applies to ordinary people as well, but in particular those who specialize in judo must be expected to act in a way consistent with the purposes of judo.


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[Assistant] When you practice judo, you must try to perfect yourself and contribute to society through this practice and you must emphasize the importance of this during your teachings to others.


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[Assistant] Something that seems good because it is near at hand may be useless in the future. Whereas in some cases, a bit of patience is highly effective in furthering your lot in the future. Right? Delayed gratification.


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[Assistant] Is found not in the pursuit of material gains or temporary pleasure.


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[Assistant] And true kindness towards one's friends means giving them serious advice when needed, selflessly, without fear of offending them.


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[Assistant] Now that one's interesting because I deal with this one a lot, right? I deal with this a lot because you got your subordinate that's not doing what they're supposed to do. And I just was having this conversation with a group I was working with.


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[Assistant] And they were real big on the word transparency, and Leif and I talked about it on the podcast and, and


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[Assistant] If, here's the question, like I'm gonna be transparent with you, like hey, echo your videos, you know, they're not good right now.


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[Assistant] Your videos aren't good. You need to tighten up your videos. Like does that make, does that improve our relationship? Does that make you want to do a good job for me? Does that make you want to like get out there and really crush it? No, not at all. So even though I'm being transparent, does it help our situation? Does it help what we're trying to do?


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[Assistant] No it doesn't. So I need to figure out a way to tell you something and normally the best way to do that, and here's a big hint for everyone that's out there, if you want to give someone critique that they know, that you know they need, one of the best ways to give them critique is to take ownership of it, take ownership of the problem. So I say echo, hey,


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[Assistant] I feel like I'm not really giving you good guidance on the videos and the way they're coming out.


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[Assistant] I want to sit down and talk to you and actually go through like what, what the impact that we're trying to have and that I want to have. And I mean, I know you're working hard, but I feel like I'm not giving you good enough guidance. So I want to sit down with you and try and see if I can be more clear. Right? Does that offend you?


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[Assistant] But yeaah, but no, no, I get it. Yea, you're right. So, you take, if you take ownership of the problem, and then you talk about the problem with the person, it puts, it doesn't, it makes, it makes them not have a defensive posture, which is what you, which is what you want, you want, don't want them to have a defensive posture.


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[Assistant] I actually want to have them have an open mind and be able to listen to what I say. They won't listen if you're pointing the finger at them.


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[Assistant] You must remember that the purpose of expending a great deal of effort to build a strong body is to enable you to undertake jobs that you might otherwise be unable to endure. So what he's talking about there, he's talking about fu- He basically goes on this whole thing about like being big and buff. Sure.


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[Assistant] No, no, he says the reason that you're trying to get strong isn't so you can look big and buff, it's so that you can do jobs, you can endure jobs that you wouldn't be able to endure otherwise.


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[Assistant] Functional strength. That's what he's hard. He's down with the functional strength.


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[Assistant] We should pay great attention to what we eat and drink. There was a time when people did not deem it a problem to eat and drink to excess, but rather were proud of a prolific, proud of being a prolific eater or a heavy drinker. That way of thinking still persists.


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[Assistant] And is obviously detrimental to health. If you do not take care in regard to matters of health, there is no benefit in practicing judo.


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[Assistant] Those who practice Judo must not only keep this in mind, but must also consider it their duty to remind others.


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[Assistant] This guy's, again, this guy's like super orderly, and he's, you know, just gonna tighten people up. You know, he's out there going, don't eat that donut. Yeah, well, that's one thing, but to the nth degree.


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[Assistant] Because judo derives from the martial arts of the past, it must perpetuate the spirit of other martial arts. Loyalty, faith, honor and various other virtues were emphasized in the martial arts of the past.


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[Assistant] But I keenly feel their importance even today. The deterioration of society's morals today is primarily the result of a failure to emphasize these virtues.


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[Assistant] So I believe that those who practice judo in particular must apply themselves to these matters and restore today's neglected public morals.


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[Assistant] He's got another little hang up. Oh, it's not even a hang up. He's, but I mean, obviously I'm pointing this out because we could clearly look at society today and be like, yeah, well guess what? We're on a slippery slope.


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[Assistant] Who, me or him? No, him. Oh yeaah. Yeaah, what about me?


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[Assistant] It's, it's weird cause you go around different pockets of the world and different pockets of the country and you see various, various positions on the slippery slope. Some people hanging on, but some people are not and they're just slipping and we gotta be careful.


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[Assistant] Like, I think people lose concentration just because most people?


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[Assistant] In my opinion, most people are like, they kinda know. You know, we go back to the theory of right and wrong, what's right.


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[Assistant] Most people are pretty good with it. Like, most people feel pretty, like, they know what's bad, like, no, that's wrong. Right?


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[Assistant] The problem is, and so that's why I think we don't emphasize as much because we think, you know what, hang on, most people pretty much agree with me. Like, it's like the center people of the country right now, like, ehm, the extreme right, no, the extreme left, no, okay, where are you at? It's like, okay, well those people that are in the middle, it's like, yeah, we kind of figure like, okay, pretty much,


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[Assistant] And so what happens is, once we don't talk about it as much, well then, the people that are on the fringes, mentally,


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[Assistant] They end up without a compass, right? They just don't even know what's right and what's wrong anymore. Because people aren't talking about it as much because it doesn't seem like we need to. I think we might need to.