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[Assistant] And I'm like, ready to go, every morning, every morning. Ready to go, ready to go. And then we're going out to Nyland, I think I was gone.


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[Assistant] So I, I weaseled my way into an LNO position for the siege soda. And I worked that for about a month and then I was down working for the chief of station in Kabul. Cause I identified a problem. I looked at,


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[Assistant] The entire spectrum of all of the operations that are taking place. And I'm looking, we were completely, we were not employed to the capacity that we should be.


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[Assistant] As seals. And it's because we didn't have assets and authorities and all this stuff. So I laid this plan out and I'm like...


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[Assistant] If we tied this asset to this person who has control over this, then we can execute the mission better with seals. And I went to, uh, John, gosh, what was his name?


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[Assistant] Selecky, Colonel Selecky, he was the C- sort of commander. I said, Colonel, NAVSOF is not being employed to our capacity. And he's like, I know, you know what's going on. I said, sure, if we do this, this, this, this, and this. And he goes, all right, beat it.


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[Assistant] He was, he was the finest joint warfare fighter I've ever worked with. I mean, Repas was another one. He's another army guy, unfortunately. I wish I could lay out this list of Seal of Admirals I can say that about. There's a few, but yeah, John was just, he was amazing.


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[Assistant] And, uh, he's like, get down there and get it on, Vano. What's up?


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[Assistant] Beat feet. So we tied together for Theatersoft, the first real, uh, interagency integration. Nice. Like biometrics. You remember biometrics? So everyone's like, you know, so I was there and I was sitting around, you know, reflecting, because you should reflect. And I was looking at one of those charts.


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[Assistant] And so I went and talked to a guy named Jax. He's still a super good friend of mine. He's the senior FBI agent in the country. And his office was right around the corner from my, down in, uh, Kabul at the, uh, annex. And I'm like, Jax, how does the FBI know who people are after they're deceased? And he's like, well, you know, we do fingerprints, we do all the stuff. I'm like, oh, okay. So how do we do that here? And he's like, well, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I mean this is a huge story. So I figured out a thing for us to be able to


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[Assistant] Dude, this is a very complicated series of stuff. AC went 30 and 47s and all night and you know, big target deck and everything. And he had like the Johnny G-Man, you know, 1930s.


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[Assistant] FBI fingerprint kit. The blue suitcase with the silver corners to fingerprint these, you know, the enemy combatants that were no longer around. That's how all that started. That was an incredibly


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[Assistant] Interesting thing, man. And then I rolled back and I went to team five where I was a potential.


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[Assistant] I left October 13th, 2003. I remember that because it's the- That's when you left Afghanistan? For my first tour, yea. Wait, you left-


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[Assistant] No, I came back. Got it. I came back. So it took me...


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[Assistant] The baseline operational plan and then the letters on the end are how many, uhm, how many different iterations of it. Right, so it got down to Victor. So 10-03 Victor was the plan when I left and all the heavy lift aircraft started leaving Afghanistan when I was there. And I'm like, there's only so much heavy lift aircraft and I go, oh my gosh, they're going to do 10-03 Victor. So,


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[Assistant] Me coming back, I don't know exactly the periodicity when the actual invasion kicked off, but I knew it was going to happen because of the heavy lift aircraft, maybe. Uhm, so, you know, I'm a platoon chief and I want to go to war with my dudes. I mean, I, there's one of these books written by Dick Couch.


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[Assistant] That they interviewed us when I was teaching land warfare.


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[Assistant] And in that book I'm like, he's like, what do you want to do essentially? I'm like, my goal is to become a platoon chief.


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[Assistant] Like, that's it. To me that's a pinnacle of an enlisted SEAL's job. There's been no potential. I was a troop chief later, but that was, you know, the thing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then we wind up, they get this mission, this mission set protecting these Iraqi dignitaries.


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[Assistant] I mean, not that it's not important, but the war was not going well.


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[Assistant] And again, I said this earlier, but that mission is declassified in 2009. So the top six Iraqi officials were protected by seal platoons. Then uhm, it's kind of cool. They randomly assigned NFL football teams names. That was your, your call sign. Guess what mine was?


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[Assistant] Packers. From Wisconsin, I'm like, this dude might live, man. Like, woah. So uhm, yeaah, we protected a guy, he was a deputy vice president, his name was Ibrahim Al-Jafri, he was a family physician at Six Kids, uh, fled Saddam, lived in Iran, wound up in London. And uhm, it was a, it was really, it was amazingly,


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[Assistant] Uh, interesting to do that mission. And all the bros are out down, you guys are doing your gig, you know.


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[Assistant] And uhm, I was essentially, I went to every place in that country running.


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[Assistant] Protection for a guy that's running a political campaign during a war where everybody wants to kill you.


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[Assistant] It, it lasted through, I mean, I came back after the elections. So again, the Forrest Gump thing, remember everybody's fingers dipped?


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[Assistant] Alright, so there's a picture of this guy who became the first democratically elected prime minister in Iraq's history, right?


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[Assistant] There's a picture of him with his finger up there. I'm standing directly behind the camera that took that picture. Because I was responsible for his security. Uhm, so, oh, back to Chris, man. So he's coming in and Blif is there and we're rotating out, right? And two really funny things happen with him. One, it's a prestige thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know who it was and he was the chief and, and Bliff was his IC, you know.


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[Assistant] And uhm, so two funny things happen. There's a cultural thing in uhm, some Arabic countries, uh, Iraq being one.


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[Assistant] Where uhm, you wanna be as close to the center of power as possible. I guess that's here in the United States too. But uhm,


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[Assistant] So, we would run these motorkits, right? Uh, lead, limo, follow.


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[Assistant] And then you'd have, uh, elements ahead of you and then behind you. So if anything happened,


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[Assistant] You can skedaddle and these guys get in the gunfight. So you're protecting the principal. And I talk to these guys over and over again. I'm like, look.


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[Assistant] You're very important people, I get that, you know, you're the minister of whatever the heck, but our sole function is to make sure that echo lives. You know what I mean? We're gonna help you with whatever you want, medical, but...


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[Assistant] That will not be to the detriment of making sure that echoes a lot. Check. So they always try to weasel into this.


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[Assistant] Convoy. And these guys had one of those beautiful old Mercedes-Benz, like the powder blue, you know, I'm talking the big, just,


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[Assistant] Phil Phil is Arabic for pepper. Because he had a real hot temper, you know. And Chris is in the car with Beth. And we're sitting there blazing through Baghdad.


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[Assistant] Look in the mirror. You know, it's interesting when you're in combat, you get to that point where you see everything. You know what I mean? Like things are happening over here.


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[Assistant] Then you have a full holistic understanding of your environment. And that's really why I think people miss being in that, you know, in combat because you are completely alive.


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[Assistant] Like this, this up armor. And I point my M4 back at him.


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[Assistant] I mean clearly I'm not going to shoot him, but I point my M4 at him and he goes back to the back of the line of this huge motor gun. And Crystal's like, what just happened? He actually used some expletives.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to tell you, these people are going to keep doing that. They're on our side. But uhm, it's very important uhm, that they understand the ground rules that are being set here.


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[Assistant] And that's going to happen over and over again. Chris, doesn't matter how hard you try, they're going to keep doing it. And then the other thing, it's funny, we're down at uhm, do you remember who Tarek Aziz was?


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[Assistant] Who was part of the DALA party and was right by the, you, you exited the green zone, went over the 14th of July branch. It's like right there.


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[Assistant] So that's where all these meetings are taking place. So we had to go down there. They only take the AIC, which is the agent in charge. That was the...


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[Assistant] You know, renamed OIC. They take him inside. They didn't want anybody else there. So we got all these cars around and I have my car and my body armor's in there, my helmet's in there, my rifle's in there, and I have a pistol.


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[Assistant] And we'd set up everywhere and you'd be there for hours and hours and hours. So I'd go around checking everybody and everybody was, you know, good to go. I'm in, uhm, Chris and Blif's car.


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[Assistant] And I'm like, okay, so if we have an indirect attack, mortar, artillery, whatever, uhm, you just gotta wait a minute and see if it develops into a complex attack.


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[Assistant] Meaning, so they mortar stuff, and then they can use that to make everybody go to ground, and then they can start infiltrating, you know, with ground troops.


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[Assistant] I go, so if that happens and you just wait a sec and then you punch out a perimeter immediately.


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[Assistant] Okay, go. And then I realized I don't have a rifle. I have my pistol. So remember that little, the green army man, the medic?


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[Assistant] It was in my vehicle which was right next to theirs. Like right there.


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[Assistant] That ain't gonna cut it, bro. That ain't gonna cut it. No, seriously. I know. Hey, listen, I think we should discuss things, warts and all, you know. But uhm, what happened was the Iraqi police had an AD with an RPG.


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[Assistant] But they had that moon dust out there, you know, so you couldn't tell it looked like a mortar round coming. It didn't sound like a mortar round, but it looked like one because of the impact. So that's my funny seal story right there.


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[Assistant] I learned, well I didn't really learn it, it just reinforced some things for me. Uhm, the mission always comes first. No matter what.


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[Assistant] And the mission's America. It's not some of this woke bullshit these, uh, military officers are coming up with now. Sorry for swearing, but that ain't the mission, dude. The mission's America. And that's gotta happen every day.


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[Assistant] That's why, you know, my fat bald person, I'm running for Congress now because the mission is America and America is being failed by our leadership. Anyway, side note. So mission comes first. And then I also learned to let some things roll. And, and this is why we were late. So.


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[Assistant] The doctor lived in the Cadizia, which was, uh, like a neighborhood right outside of checkpoint 11. So checkpoint 11 went from green zone to route Irish where everybody's getting killed all the time. You had to drive down a mile or so, whatever, button hook left into the Cadizia to pick this guy up.


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[Assistant] So we're late and I'm like, you know, frik frik frik brr, you know, being a seal, sailor guy.


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[Assistant] We're living in Uday Hussein's, one of his joints. I think it was Grey Wolf was the thought there. Anyway, so we're late. And then BOOM.


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[Assistant] Just massive, massive car bomb goes off right at checkpoint 11. Like it was so big, it blew a car like 50 feet up on top of a tree. And here's what happened. They knew we were going to the Codicea and this, they had this huge bomb.


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[Assistant] And the traffic keeps going forward and forward and forward and forward. It finally gets to the checkpoint and they clack themselves off. We were supposed to be in that line. Pass it. It would have killed the entire platoon except for the one guy we had working at the jock. So that was a real lesson.


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[Assistant] Well, that's a function of maturity. It really is. Uhm, and sometimes you just look at things and you're like, non-starter.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was like a combination of all the ints. And uhm, you know, I just had an act for that too. So, I was one of the first five guys, you know, sitting around trying to figure this out. Rob Mason was the first skipper. He's a retired captain now. He worked for the 76ers doing some stuff. No idea. Yeah. But uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that was a very, very, uhm, rewarding time to build something else up from the ground. Because I only built, or helped build, you know, this is not...


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[Assistant] Couldn't have been that long actually. Well, I came back from Iraq.


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[Assistant] 2008-ish. It's like 2 or 3 years. Okay. Because I went to Special Operations Command Europe after that.


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[Assistant] That picture's taken about three or four months after the boat scene on Active Aller was filmed.


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[Assistant] When was that filmed? Gosh, it was, it came out. That wasn't, that wasn't until later.


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[Assistant] It came out in 2012 or something, but that, it took like three years to film that movie because everybody except for the officer and the


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was, uh, I think it came out in 2012, so they started filming that in 2009ish, cause I was...


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[Assistant] That was, I was working up to go to Afghanistan when that was filmed. So here's what happened with that movie.


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[Assistant] Right, so yeaah, so check this out. So I am a troop chief at Team 7. And then this super specialized mission came along that I had done previously.


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[Assistant] And I'm the only one at the team that has done this. And I'm the only one with the, well, there's two other guys with the same qualification as me, but I'm the only one that has actually done this mission working for this other subset of people doing this stuff. So the skipper's like, I don't know what I'm doing. I mean, God bless him. He had no idea. He goes, you can pick anybody you want from the team. And.


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[Assistant] Take him to go do this. So me and the guy who I won't mention, he's actually right next to me in that picture because he's still off duty. We went through everybody's records at Team 7. I'm like...


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[Assistant] That was my troop chief deployment. So we, we sent guys to Balad.


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[Assistant] To Afghanistan to do this other subset. Got it. So we didn't have a traditional, you know, task unit go out and, you know, like bruiser. We didn't, it just wasn't available. Yea, it just wasn't happening. No, it wasn't. So I went and did that. How'd you like being a troop chief? You know what? Uhm, it was interesting, but it's not, it's not, uh, it wasn't like it's hands on.


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[Assistant] The logistics part was, you know, it was more difficult.


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[Assistant] To get done, uhm, and then you, you're, you're managing personalities, uhm.


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[Assistant] You know, I could, I would prefer to do this.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, if we had a traditional air quotations, you know, 0506 Iraq, or if we could do like 03 Afghanistan, where you are seriously getting it, that would have been much different. But in effect, you know, I had guys, like one of my guys, I'll give you an example,


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[Assistant] One of my guys, I think I had six seals with me. So going from like 60 seals to six, but they're all like, you know what? We were doing that.


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[Assistant] Like driving around in thin-skinned vehicles by ourselves during the day in Afghanistan. And your QRF is not coming.


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[Assistant] Stress that is applied. I mean, it's so much easier and you know this to go with 50 dudes and lock something down and go in and just, you know, do seal stuff. And that's great. And it, you know, we get a lot of, it's very stressful. That's really stressful. When you got to plan these things in detail, intricate, and if you make one mistake, it's over. Uhm, and I did that for several years. I mean, it's upper division warfare is what I call it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is totally. Cause you have to have a holistic understanding of all the thresholds going from the electronic warfare perspective all the way down to, how do I shoot my gun? Way different than, you know, go that way.


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[Assistant] So when you build this picture, you have, uhm,


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[Assistant] You have like a global perspective, but for a local area.


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[Assistant] And you understand you have all these triggers that if they start getting pinged, you gotta bail. And sometimes you intentionally trigger them. So, interesting. So that was troop chief thing. In a way it was not as exciting as it should have been.


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[Assistant] Hey listen, I got, I'll tell you something. I don't know if your, your viewers understand this. I remember when you came back.


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[Assistant] And you went around the teams and you gave a brief that you called the pressure. Remember that? Yea. The pressure.


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[Assistant] At that point, cause I didn't know you either, you know what I mean? You're like some dude, bad haircut, probably lifts too many weights and drinks energy drinks, you know, whatever.


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[Assistant] It's good to be the diamond in the rough. Uhm, but you gave this brief and it was, you called it the pressure and it was, uh, what you're doing is you're conveying, I mean this is my perspective, obviously you wrote it, uh, conveying the burden of leadership.


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[Assistant] And the fact that you truly at that point, got it. Which is, a lot of officers never get it.


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[Assistant] And I was watching you, and I thought you were much younger than me at the time, I don't know. But I was like, this guy gets it.


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[Assistant] Like he understands ramifications of poor decision making. And things are real. Uhm, and it just doesn't affect, you know,


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[Assistant] Your reputation is I'm a, I'm a great operator, you know. That it affects families. And that it affects the nation.


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[Assistant] And I understood that. That's when I really got a respect for you is when listening to you see that because I could see your heart was breaking when you're discussing this and that you weren't making anything up.


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[Assistant] Being very genuine about leadership is really important, and we're missing that, dude.


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[Assistant] We're missing that from the tactical, strategic and operational level throughout our country and private industry and the government especially. It's, it's terrible. So, now you guys know.


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[Assistant] So you went to trade at for the same reasons I did, but six years later.


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[Assistant] That should be everybody's goal. When you take that and you transition into a civilian life, uhm, I tell people a couple things frequently.


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[Assistant] It is the minimum responsibility of every American citizen to pass on to their children a country where they have at a minimum the same ability to choose, to have options. And we're failing.


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[Assistant] At that, as a society, collectively, if you think about what the government did to the population during this COVID crap.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you can't deny it. There's five elements to the First Amendment. There's freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom to seek regress for grievances, right? All of those were smashed into the ground during COVID.


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[Assistant] So, it's our responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen again. How do we do that? We take the impaired knowledge from what we went through these last two years and we apply that, uh, nakedly.


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[Assistant] Can I say, so, I agree with it mostly there, but it's, to me it's not...


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[Assistant] This is how I think we should do this. That's, okay, when, when people, uhm, and this was one of the things that we had to break when we were writing all that curriculum for SR and Land Warfare. This is how this is done.


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[Assistant] When you say to somebody, this is how this is done, you're over. Because this is how this was done at this time and this place with this series of variables.


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[Assistant] This is what I think we should do right now. No, no, no, no. This is, this is not, okay, there's a difference. So this is what we should do is different than this is how this is done. So this is what we should do means that this is the way that I think at this particular time this should be done. Right. Because of these variables. It's open.


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[Assistant] If you're incapable of articulating appropriately the methodologies that you're applying to a problem set, you have not thought them through well enough. Yeah. Boom. Yep. Someone taught a seal how to read, baby.


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[Assistant] I was gonna go teach what I was doing. Cause I believe you should do that, right? Like we talked about.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but then they came, so I was a senior chief at that point, and the billet, the job, was for an E-7, not an E-8. And that's when they went through and they said, hey look, you should be able to do one up, one down. So the billet is for an E-7, an E-6 could go do that, or an E-8.


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[Assistant] You can do one up, one down there. No more of this. We don't have enough guys to do this stuff. It's an E7 billet.


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[Assistant] So I'm like, oh man, so I go check in and start at the elephant cage at advanced training.


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[Assistant] And I was just kinda sitting there, and they're like, we gotta find an E-7 billet, you know? And there was not, cause that's a platoon chief job.


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[Assistant] And I just got done being a true chief nerd, you know. So finally I go up to WarCom.


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[Assistant] This is like a month into this, and I feel like I'm stealing money from the government. You know what I mean? Cause I go in and check and I go, oh I got nothing to do. And uh, so I go up to, uhm, Pugs is the guy.


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[Assistant] And he's like, well, I don't know. So he pulls up the list of like all the seal billets on the planet, right? And Bosnia, I flew through Germany, Stuttgart, Bueblingen, is that actually the name of the town? On the way there and on the way back. And I'm like, and uh,


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[Assistant] My wife, she did like a semester in Germany, in college. So I'm like, right there. I want to go there. And he's like, okay.


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[Assistant] So, I get a billet, I get a billet as the J35 which is the Contingency Operations NCIC at Special Operations Command New York. That's why I went up there.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, I have a knack for this stuff. I, the upper division warfare stuff applies. I understand how to, you know, take very complex


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[Assistant] Uh, me and this other guy named Derek, who's a retired Special Forces Colonel. We gave the Ukrainians a month.


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[Assistant] Like, so we were planning for a Russian invasion of the Ukraine in 2000, that's 2009, 10, right? People think the military doesn't do stuff, we do. But we gave them a month because the authorities are different.


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[Assistant] What do you mean you gave him a month? We thought within a month the Russians would take over the entire country. Oh, got it. Like, we gave him a month. DoD I think was giving him about a week.


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[Assistant] But, you know, intuitively, Derek had multiple combat tours as a special forces officer. He's a fantastic officer. Uhm, but we gave him a month because we knew him better.


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[Assistant] Then they changed the authorities when this happened, so you could give them javelins and stingers and also the, the,


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[Assistant] The weapons that are doing this, so the crux of the plan, without getting, you know, real deep into it, is disaggregated small unit operations facilitated by high tech weapons. That's it, you know, and then also you have external intelligence and all that stuff.


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[Assistant] And that's just taking place. So that truly was an amazingly, uh, it was very intellectually stimulating to do that.


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[Assistant] But, you know, at that point, cause I broke my back and all this stuff and I can't carry a rock anymore. And, uh, that's really why I got out of the teams is because I just couldn't do the job physically. I didn't want to Brett far of myself. You know what I mean? Which Brett should have just retired, dude. Green Bay, why'd you go to Minnesota? Brett, I'm looking right into the camera. Why did you do that?


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[Assistant] In what was taking place really at that point globally. And uhm, so Benghazi went down when I was there.


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[Assistant] And they were still, uh, sockaf was getting stood up.


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[Assistant] Special operations command Africa and there was a commanders in extremist force sharing agreement, you know, so it was, I was really, uhm,


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[Assistant] And everything the Clinton folks told you and Obama is a lie.


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[Assistant] That should not have happened. And as it was happening, it should have been stopped.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so Jimmy Carter did something called Chief of Mission Authority. The American Ambassador is real.


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[Assistant] No military forces will go into a country without the approval of the chief of mission, unless it's a Title 10 designated country. Meaning, so Title 10 is the Department of Defense thing, and we're like, hey, we're going to invade Iraq, that becomes a Title 10 deal. The military can move troops back and forth into that country without going through the State Department.


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[Assistant] That was not the case for, uh, Libya. You know what I mean? It wasn't. So the state department has, so ambassador Stevens had to approve the troops that were on their way to Benghazi, had to approve them landing in the country, but he was dead. And the state department didn't answer the phone.


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[Assistant] Tina Kaden now was there along with Secretary Clinton. She's ultimately responsible. They just didn't answer the phone.


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[Assistant] If you look up Jackal Stone 12, I think, just Google it. Jackal Stone is a special operations forces.


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[Assistant] Uhm, annual European exercise. You probably did it if you were two, did you? No. Okay. But I know what the exercise is. Okay, so that was taking place in Split, Croatia. And you know that the CIF is there and they have a full pack. None of this is classified by the way.


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[Assistant] They have a full package. They got shooters, they got comms, they got medical, they have resupply, you know, water, everything. That bird was going there.


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[Assistant] Cause that's why it's there. In case something like that happens and the agreement between SOC F and SOC year was in place cause SOC F didn't have a SIF yet. Right. So, but no one answered the phone. So you can't land that plane.


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[Assistant] Right. So, shameful. And that, I truly, I mean I knew it before because I'd seen it on a macro level.


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[Assistant] On a, excuse me, on a micro level I've seen it, but on a macro level I hadn't seen really the hardcore ramifications of incredibly poor decision making.


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[Assistant] Other than the fact that we invaded Iraq when we did. I mean, that was a big thing. Uhm, but that really, really brought it home. Uhm, that you just can't do that.


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[Assistant] You have to be, if you're in a position of leadership, your phone is on all the time.


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[Assistant] Two of them graduated from high school there though. But it's in Americanized.


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[Assistant] No, that is the, um, command that writes all the advancement exams for SEALs. That writes the enlisted ladder. People don't understand when you join the Navy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Navy plans out a career for you for 30 years.


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[Assistant] So even though you think you're joining on a six year enlistment or eight years or whatever it is, you know, active and reserve, the Navy has a plan for you and they palm, uh,


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[Assistant] To make sure that everybody is hopefully on par with their institutional knowledge.


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[Assistant] So I did that and it was really fun writing the advancement exams because I'd call all my buddies.


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[Assistant] And like, hey, will you go down to Florida with me for a week? We'll get locked in a skiff, you know, a big safe. And, uh, we'll go through the previous exams and then we'll write new questions updating the TTPs and all of the things for the SEAL teams. And then in order to get promoted, SEALs would have to take that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that was awesome too. That's a way to get back to the community.


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[Assistant] I went there because uhm, I needed to, like, get my medical situation in order. Uhm, and it took like a year and a half.


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[Assistant] Beat up old frog man. You know what I mean? That's why I'm fat right now. If I go PT right now, I can't walk.


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[Assistant] I mean, I've got a handicap placard for my car. Damn. Yeah, damn. So, I mean, my knees and hips and back and...


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[Assistant] I got, I got a ricochet in the face. It was in training. It counts for nothing. I didn't even get a free dental appointment because of that, you know? Uhm, so, uh, yeaah, I went there to, you know, dual purpose. Get myself physically


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[Assistant] I've had the ability and the luck and I think I'm blessed, man. I mean, I am. I have a deep and abiding faith in God. And I look back, you know, all the way back to getting hit in the head with a shackle.


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[Assistant] How that led to all this stuff? You know? There's, there's, I, I am one of the luckiest human beings that has ever existed. And I am so full of gratitude, man. I mean, I just, I get up and I'm just full of gratitude. And, uh, I, I wish that more people would understand the gifts that they've been given. And understand they're a gift. And when I talk to folks about the cavalry thing, like the cavalry's not coming over the hill, I tell them, like, look, man,


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[Assistant] Uhm, you're, you're placed here at this time, you know, with these people in this circumstance by God.


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[Assistant] Like, you're put here for a reason, and from my perspective, what I'm doing now,


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[Assistant] And the people I'm speaking to, it's to save the greatest country that has ever existed in the history of the world.


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[Assistant] Like the United States of America is an exceptional nation and I don't tolerate anybody talking crap about America. It's not going to happen. And these folks that I'm dealing with, like you were placed here by God for that to save the United States of America. And that's a gift. And you got to accept the gift. And oftentimes gifts, you get this, oftentimes gifts can be perceived as a burden.


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[Assistant] You're in that place at that time with those people in that circumstance and these things happen. You're exercising the best judgment that you're capable of doing. You have the best assets in the world. You're certainly working with the finest human beings that have ever existed.


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[Assistant] Contextually in warfare for sure. And then around the block, you know, you were there for a reason.


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[Assistant] Because you were given a gift to be able to exercise that mission. If you're capable of doing something and you don't act on it, you're not giving glory to God.


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[Assistant] You're given the intellectual or physical ability to do things. If you don't do them, you're falling short. I believe that. Other people need to understand that.


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[Assistant] Four. Up to your four at this point. Yeah, uhm, I just, I knew that I couldn't do the job to the level that...


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[Assistant] No man, we had bought a farm in Wisconsin probably, I don't know, 10 years before that, and I wanted to just go back to my farm.


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[Assistant] And we raised animals and all that stuff, but so I got out and I did uhm, this corporate leadership stuff with Larry.


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[Assistant] And executive coaching sort of, I mean, the stuff you do, but not nearly at the same level. I mean, you've taken it beyond, you know, uh, and it wasn't interesting to me. So I'm like, you know what? Let's go back to the farm.


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[Assistant] And where we lived is fantastic. It was Butternut, Wisconsin. It's a very small place and we just wanted him to be able to round out his education in a Christian setting and that was not available there. And then we went back to the farm and uhm, the, the cafe in town,


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[Assistant] It was called the Butternut Cafe. Surprisingly enough. But uhm, it failed. So the owner of the building, the person running the cafe, it didn't work well. So uhm, it closed. There's 326 people in the village. And uhm,


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[Assistant] These people had, they had taken care of our farm for like a decade. I went to Afghanistan, Iraq, Horn of Africa and was stationed in Germany for three years. Nothing happened to that place.


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[Assistant] And people bend over backwards. We have so much more in common with each other than differences. And it's being exploited by these folks that are trying to do, I think, uh, horrible things for the country. So, but that's really America where I live now in Paradee Sheen. It's America, you know? So this place closes, the village takes a huge hit. And I'm like,


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[Assistant] So I talked to Sergey, and I'm like, let's get this going again. So I bought the building from a bank.


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[Assistant] Gutted it, put in new equipment. I had worked in a restaurant for


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[Assistant] It's cathartic. Uhm, so we got the cafe going again and then sold it to a local lady at my BFF. Her name is Bobbi Munoz. She's awesome. And uhm, you know, not to run it. So, so many people talk about things.


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[Assistant] And a lot of people have money in there. They'll throw money at problems. You know, the government tries to throw money at problems, right?


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[Assistant] And the most valuable gift you can give somebody is your time.


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[Assistant] You have a finite amount of time on this planet. Now I, as a Christian, I believe that, you know, there's something beyond this, but a lot of people don't. You only have, you only have so much time. So if you really care about somebody, give them your time. Sit down with them.


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[Assistant] Give them time. So we, we gave two years of our time back to that village because they're so dear to us. And you know, I walked away net neutral, but the impact


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[Assistant] Of showing people, demonstrating to them that you truly care about them is priceless.


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[Assistant] Run that and Bobby started bobbers on the lake and butternut lake. If you want to go buy it, get a beer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Bobbers, Bobbers on the lake. Uh, it's in Butternut, Wisconsin, run by Bobby Munoz.


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[Assistant] I mean, you have all these different, you know, entrepreneurial adventures. She's got the same thing going. I mean, she's just bam, bam, bam.


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[Assistant] Okay, you're living on the farm and then I'm turning 50. So this was three years ago.


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[Assistant] And I'm like, this, this is another point in my life where you can either


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[Assistant] You know, kind of like, just stay stagnant or you should do something to keep yourself rolling, right? So I'm like, I'm going to go to law school.


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[Assistant] And just like buds, man, you can't just go to law school. Why can't I just go to law school, right? So I studied for the LSAT for a month on the Khan Academy, which is awesome. It's free, you know, and took it and I got accepted to law school.


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[Assistant] Uh, Mitchell Hamline in St. Paul. But during, so during this period of time,


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[Assistant] We get them all together and uhm, they are given Sarah. Excuse me.


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[Assistant] Hard time about how difficult it was, cause at this point we had four grandkids I think, and we're having


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[Assistant] Yeah, we had, we were having, we had three, we're having our fourth, fifth and sixth grandkids. They're going to be born in a two month window. And, um.


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[Assistant] So they're giving Sarah Jane a hard time about how difficult it was to visit our farm way up north. And it was like an hour and 45 minutes to the closest regional airport.


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[Assistant] And then if you're flying to there, it's an extra 200 bucks a person. You know, I'm not a wealthy guy. We live on our list of retirement. I can't afford that stuff. And uh, or you fly into Minneapolis and it's like a four and a half hour drive. So I'm like, check, got it.


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[Assistant] I missed the kids growing up. I did, you know, I was working, deployed, training, all that stuff. So I set preconditions, two of them. I love that place up there. It took us 15 years to get the house, you know, up to, it was just perfect.


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[Assistant] I'm like, two conditions. Wait, the family wants you to move? My wife wants us to go someplace closer to an airport so that our grandkids can visit us and we can visit them more regularly. And I'd missed our kids growing up because I was a frogman. Natural environment combat. And uhm, so, two conditions. It has to be in Wisconsin, and it has to be a hobby farm.


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[Assistant] Which, oh, I did a one hour circumference around the Minneapolis same port. Got it. And it had to be on what I call the right side of the river. That's politically and geographically correct. And so, I find this place in Hager City.


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[Assistant] I call them what's going on in the market the next day. Small hobby farm, old farmhouse, 19 acres, 13 tillable alfalfa. Not hay anymore. Look, check. I'll drive down the next day.


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[Assistant] I look at it, I go, okay, this is it. Put in an offer by the house. Move down there.


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[Assistant] Uh, we sold it after a couple months, so it's gone. And uhm, excuse me. So, interestingly enough, this is how I wound up running for Congress. Because...


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[Assistant] Sean Duffy, who was my rep for the longest time. If you look at Wisconsin, the, uh, Ashland County is like right in the middle.


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[Assistant] To the top, right? And it's right next to Lake Superior. Just past Glidden, which is the next village up from Butternut, it becomes very liberal.


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[Assistant] Because there's a, uh, environmentalist, uh, liberal arts college here. North, Northland's college, right?


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[Assistant] Nine kids. But, so they would stop in our village and I'd cook for him. And his staff.


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[Assistant] So if something was coming up, you'd be like, oh, I'll just call Sean and ask him what's going on, you know? And uhm, so I moved down and that's in Pierce County, right?


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[Assistant] Oh, this impeachment was coming on. I did human intelligence for a very long period of time. I read the Steele dossier and I knew it was absolute junk. This is manufactured. This is not true.


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[Assistant] Dude, the job title is representative. It's not your lordship.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? This is not how representative democracy is supposed to function and it sure didn't with Sean. So, I'm getting steamed and I start looking into this cat.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? It's very difficult. It is not difficult finding out what politicians are doing.


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[Assistant] So I started looking at this guy from the perspective of doing human intelligence and finding out what this cat had been doing. He'd been in office for 20...


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[Assistant] Two or 23 years at the time. Saying stuff in the district, you can find it in newspaper articles and, and uh, interviews. And then I compare that to his actual voting record. And it was just wrong.


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[Assistant] He would say one thing, go to DC and do another thing because he was working for the behest of special interest groups, not the people he's representing, right? So the impeachment vote goes down.


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[Assistant] He is number 435 out of 435 representatives to cast his vote. Made public on the floor, cause he had to.


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[Assistant] He told everybody in the district he wasn't going to vote for that impeachment because it was junk. I'm not doing that. Well, he did it. Hoping to slide it under the radar. Nope. So I sent a text message to this guy named Jim, who worked for Sean. I'm like, Jim, who are you guys running against this guy? And he writes me back and he goes, you.


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[Assistant] And I write him back, I go ha ha ha. And he didn't write me back. So when you write something,


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[Assistant] And somebody writes, ha ha ha ha, and they don't write back, they're not joking. And I was like, oh yeah.


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[Assistant] I should be right. I fixed problems for decades. So why aren't I fixing this problem? And I decided to run for Congress. So I got a hold of the RPW.


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[Assistant] Mark Jefferson is executive director. I did an interview with him and he's like, well, yeah, I guess, you know, and I formed this nascent


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[Assistant] Political group, you know. Is this 20, is this 2019? This would be 2019, yeaah. So in 2019, and uhm,


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[Assistant] I formed my, my team. I didn't know what I was doing. Here's, here's the metrics. People like hearing these metrics. So Ron Kind had been in office for at that point, 24 years, 25 years, something like that. He had $3.1 million in the bank.


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[Assistant] He had a functioning political organization and he had 100% name recognition.


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[Assistant] 100% kind, right? They have those kind bars, that's not him. Uhm, I had never thought about being in politics, ever. My entire life, right?


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[Assistant] We moved to the district to be closer to the airport so we can visit our children. So the only person that knew my name was my wife.


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[Assistant] Right? I have no money at all. Zero name recognition.


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[Assistant] That's, that's the starting point. I decided to run for office 72 hours. I announced my candidacy. They locked down the entire planet with COVID. Boom. So I ran a nine month campaign.


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[Assistant] Against those odds, I came within like two and a half points of beating this guy and he wanted to spend over $6 million against me. That's why he resigned. Cause I announced my candidacy. I lost and I tried to, this is, this is amazing. You know, you can say whatever you want about the 2020 election.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Even if we found statistical anomalies and all that stuff, that's what I mean. I can't, you know, I'm not going to be able to overcome that. I try to call that cat. I go that night, like four in the morning, calling to concede the election.


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[Assistant] And I got so close to beating him, like all throughout the night, I was ahead and then like 15,000 votes show up at, you know, 2 30 in the morning or whatever. You know, I get it. Check their, their counting ballots that come in. I get it. Um, he was so angry. He wouldn't take a phone call. That's someone who has no business being in leadership anywhere.


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[Assistant] Right? Mhm. I've heard of Sword Losers. I'm Sword Winners.


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[Assistant] To run again, cause I was talking to Sarah Jane, I mean, really that night, I go,


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[Assistant] This is not going to bode well for the country. Not me personally. I mean my ego, it's over here. This is not about me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's not. It's about our country and our grandkids. At that point we had six grandkids. You know, we have eight now. So,


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[Assistant] It was gonna get this bad this fast. No one could predict this.


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[Assistant] You just can't. You could not. But I decided to run again.


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[Assistant] I waited, I shepherded everything, I did some changes in my team.


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[Assistant] And then we wound up running the number one political campaign in the entire nation for 2021 from Prairie du Chien, you know, 5600 people.


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[Assistant] What makes you classify something as the number one political campaign in the whole country? So what, the inside baseball stuff, because everybody understands intuitively or they just know it, uhm, is that in order to get a word out you have to be able to raise enough funds to get the word out.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't get any money from my campaign. You can take a salary from a campaign, I don't. I just don't think that's, you should do that.


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[Assistant] But you have to buy television advertising, cable, print media, you gotta pay a staff, you know, all this stuff, gasoline, whatever.


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[Assistant] Me and my team, I have an exceptionally good team. I am so incredibly proud of my team.


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[Assistant] You can perform at a high level for only a certain period of time, you know this. You gotta sleep at some time. So how do you, how do you pull off sustained superior performance? You make sure that you assemble the best team you possibly can. So I have incredibly dedicated people who are all on board for the right reasons.


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[Assistant] I integrate every single one of them personally and make sure that they're in this for something beyond themselves, which is the country. That's why we're successful. Our mission is completely pure. Message is pure.


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[Assistant] And we're here for the right reasons. We want to save our country. And that's very, very rare.


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[Assistant] I think, uhm, there are some fantastic people in public office and leadership. No, there are. They're fantastic. A lot of them. But other people are just kind of there. They're the...


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[Assistant] Dude that was the Mar Ops instructor for 15 years, you know, a trade at. They're doing a function, but you know, why are they doing it? That's why we're successful.


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[Assistant] I meet with a bunch of different people. Uhm, my favorite meetings are with the guys in the district, the people I'm going to be representing.


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[Assistant] Man, what is going on, man? Like, how is your farm doing?


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[Assistant] What is affecting you so that you can or cannot provide for your family as well? Biggest thing we get input costs through the roof. Joe Biden.


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[Assistant] Cancel the Keystone Pipeline. Okay, check this out man. A guy named Tim Michaels is running for governor. And he's been a friend of mine for, I don't know, three years now or something?


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[Assistant] His dad started a company, he had a couple hundred employees, he has like 8,000 now. He's gonna win. He calls me.


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[Assistant] And I'm like, what do you mean, Ken? He's like, uh, we were doing the, um, electrical substations for the Keystone pipeline. And Biden just went flick. Shut that off.


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[Assistant] So, the cascading effects of these things people don't understand and I do intuitively because I wrote all these plans and did this stuff and it's something I'm good at. So here's what happens when you stop natural gas movement and production. Do you know where fertilizer comes from, Jaco?


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[Assistant] Natural gas, that's the nitrogen that comes from, that's where it comes from. The Wisconsin's third district is one of the top five users of propane and natural gas for home heating in the country. It gets 20 degrees below zero.


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[Assistant] Okay, you're not gonna like put an extra sweater on it like your mom used to tell you. What about solar? Okay, so check it out. Uhm, we, we want our grandchildren to have power, right? But we have kids now.


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[Assistant] So the Biden administration is trying to skip ahead a generation. You can't do that. Uhm, the guy named Brent Ridge runs, uhm,


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[Assistant] Dairyland Power, one of the biggest co-ops in my district. And we have a lot of co-ops because we're rural. Uhm, they did the math.


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[Assistant] Okay, a noble goal. You know what that takes? You have to double the amount of all of the nuke plants on the entire planet. So that is not a real goal. It's just not. So people are eating it right now because of these horrible policies. It's just that simple and it's gotta stop, man.


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[Assistant] So, you know when you go to your house, let's say you're going to wash your hands, and you turn the faucet on.


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[Assistant] And a little train car comes with water, right? And then you pour the water out of the train car? No. How does it get into your faucet? With a pipe?


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[Assistant] And then you get gas? No, that comes from a pipe too. Now trains themselves, we- I'm in Prairie de Cheyenne, it's like train city USA, man.


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[Assistant] Transporting bulk items like coal, for instance, and some other large P.O.L. things, if you're going from point to point, you have to have a railhead, right? So there's room for both of them. That's what folks don't understand. But we have a carbon-based economy. And if you shut off


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[Assistant] The fossil fuels that produce carbon.


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[Assistant] You're gonna destroy the economy. That's what's happening right now.


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[Assistant] You look at the food cost, dude. Farmers have not locked, wait check it out. Farmers have not locked in fertilizer prices for next year.


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[Assistant] So, it's gonna keep going up and up and up. There's a, uhm, there's two fertilizer plants that just closed in England.


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[Assistant] Russia is not going to export fertilizer anymore, probably for the foreseeable future, at least five years. I mean, they hate us right now. And there's these weird tariffs that we put on Morocco, where they produce, uhm, some fertilizers. What can Congress do? One thing. Right now.


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[Assistant] Put pressure on the Biden administration to make sure that they open up permitting and then get rid of the terrorists on Morocco.


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[Assistant] So looking at all of these problems, people get really worried about a lot of stuff.


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[Assistant] And, uh, the current leadership of the Republican Party, uh, Kevin McCarthy in the House, we actually have a plan.


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[Assistant] And they've done a tremendous job of looking at all the problems and figuring out which one of these from the federal level will we have the greatest probability of having the greatest positive effect. You know, that's how you're supposed to govern. So I'm actually very excited.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the polls are looking outstanding for us. Uhm, when I say us, I mean my team. Uhm, I know I'm the head of the team, but us, we've done this together. So I anticipate, you know, being elected in November and giving it a go, man. It's not funny.


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[Assistant] I think about that dude. I come from the meanest circumstances.


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[Assistant] I would not say that. Okay. Fast majority of them are awesome. Okay. Like fast.


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[Assistant] Well, how I plan on crossing that bridge. First and foremost, everyone needs to understand that I will work with anybody who is willing to put the interest of the country above their own.


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[Assistant] I don't care who you are. I will work with you. And I've proven that over 26 years and working the most.


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[Assistant] Diverse environments and hostile, straight up hostile environments. People trying to kill me. Environment. So if you're gonna put the betterment of the country and your congressional district above your own personal interest, I'm on board. Uhm, and this is, this is what I tell people that echoes what you're saying. I said, uhm,


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[Assistant] You're gonna agree with people, often times, 90% of the time.


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[Assistant] If I agree with somebody 90% of the time, that's a big win, right? How many people here can look themselves in the mirror and honestly say that you agree with your spouse 90% of the time?


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[Assistant] Almost nobody, right? So, finding common ground, that's the term. Finding common ground is imperative to make sure that you can actually govern.


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[Assistant] And when you do things strictly on party lines, you lose the ability to closely identify common ground. How Congress has gotten around this is they put these big omnibus bills together.


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[Assistant] So you're going to, using your example, this is going to, uhm, unleash American energy, therefore the input costs for farming are going to go down, that means food costs are going to go down. Or this is going to decrease the price of diesel fuel, which decreases the transportation costs, you understand, right? And then they'll put something in here,


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[Assistant] For or against it, and they can justify it when they go back to their district. That's gotta stop. It has to stop.


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[Assistant] Because in no way, shape or form do I support red flag laws. I'll give you an example. A well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state. The right for the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That's the entire text of the second amendment, dude.


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[Assistant] So that's out, but lowering food cost is in. So in order to hold Congress accountable, Congress has to write clean legislation.


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[Assistant] So that I know exactly where Jaco and Echo sit on an issue. That's gotta happen. Are we gonna be able to pull it off? I don't know. Uhm, but one of the things that I will do that everybody can count on is I will do me.


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[Assistant] Meaning, like the first pledge that I make to everybody is I will not buy, sell, or trade individual stocks as long as I'm a sitting member of Congress. I will not do that.


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[Assistant] And people are like, well what about this guy? What about that guy? What about that gal? I'm gonna do me. I'm gonna make sure that all the things I'm doing


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[Assistant] Are as morally and ethically and legally correct as I possibly can as a human being when I'm in Congress. I'll start there. And courage is contagious. We talked about that. I mean, ideally, people will see that. And the people that I'm working with, they'll want to do that too. I mean, people inherently, you know, they, they want to do things in a way


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[Assistant] That's beneficial for other people. The American people are benevolent. We're the most generous country that has ever existed. Our populace, you know, the regular people on the street. So if you give them the opportunity to do what's right, a lot of people are going to do what's right. They just need to see somebody else do it. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Right. So I, I wanna be very clear, uh,


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[Assistant] I am absolutely, I 100% disavow any type of political violence.


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[Assistant] I do not condone it, and that will be the destruction of America. If we take up arms against each other, I'll have no part of that. First time I went to combat, Bosnia and Herzegovina, civil war. Went to Afghanistan, turned into a civil war. Iraq turned into a civil war. Worked in the Horn of Africa, civil war.


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[Assistant] I'll have no part of that in the United States of America. So how do we prevent that from happening? Which I will do anything to prevent that from happening.


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[Assistant] Political violence cannot be part of a discussion in the United States of America. It cannot. So how do we do it? We do it by...


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[Assistant] What you're saying, we exercise our rights as American citizens and we get into office and we make the change from the inside. And here's, here's what's, this is fascinating, dude. Okay.


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[Assistant] Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. You know who said that? John F. Kennedy. JFK said that, right? So, he said that in 62? 61-62.


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[Assistant] So we went from that, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. We went from that to,


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[Assistant] You're gonna do everything I say you're gonna do. You're gonna lock your church. You're gonna close your business. You're not gonna be able to speak to each other freely.


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[Assistant] You're gonna go to this store, but not that store. You're gonna get a shot or you're gonna get fired. You're gonna do everything. You're gonna give me your money, the sweat of your brow.


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[Assistant] And if you don't willingly do this, I'm going to use the full course of power of the federal government to compel you to do this. You got that? Who's that? That's AOC.


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[Assistant] So the Democrat party went from JFK to AOC in 50 some years. How? Republicans led them. Something goes wrong on a mission. Who's the first person you look at, dude? It's you. What did I do or not do that led to the failure of this mission?


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[Assistant] Hopefully you're saying, what did I do or not do that led to the success of this mission, right? Never take anything for granted. So we as Republicans have let people


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[Assistant] Get away with this for such an extended period of time. And we've done it by saying, oh, you know, they have the best interest of the country at hand. They really do. They want the same thing that we do. Yea, in some aspects you do, but in others they don't.


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[Assistant] There's people that want to fundamentally change the system of government that has proven to be the best one on the entire planet. Like ever in history. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] We're one of the youngest countries in the world. We have the oldest standing constitution. In the world. Why?


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[Assistant] Because it is an incredibly functional and beautiful document. There's people that want to throw the Constitution out. Why? Because they're not getting the way. They're not getting their way.


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[Assistant] So, the beauty about our constitution is something's wrong in it.


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[Assistant] The mechanism for changing it is written into the document itself. That's the amendment process. You know what I mean? So use it. And they're like, well, it's so hard. Yeah.


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[Assistant] It's very, it's supposed to be, right? So are we changing stuff? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Are people waking up to, uhm, how destructive this, uh, the policies, uh, the destructive effect that the policies are having? Yeah.


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[Assistant] I mean, I see people that are just beside themselves. That $10,000 college thing?


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[Assistant] They want to give $10,000 for, you know, student debt relief? Check this out, man.


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[Assistant] 75% of my district does not have a four-year degree. Only 9% of my district, 9% has a graduate degree. And I did a roundtable with some folks.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, sorry, the gym is 28,000 square feet. We do this thing at a HVAC place, it's probably 18-20,000 square feet. Two brothers got this thing going. They don't have high, they have high school degrees and then trade school.


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[Assistant] We're in this, you know, beautiful business. All the people are just real estate agents that are, no one had a four year degree. And we're like, well, what do you think about this? Like, well, this is absurd, right? So I do this round table. I go to a place to get lunch. I'm talking to Hannah is her name, H in the beginning, H at the end. I remember cause she said that stuck my mind.


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[Assistant] And we started talking, she goes, see, oh, this is great, you know, I graduated from college, I have all this debt, you know, I'm working here as a bartender, and her degree was in, uhm, gosh, she was like,


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[Assistant] Public or communications with an art major or art minor, right? I'm like, well, you know.


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[Assistant] Can I get what you pay for there? And she goes, yeah, I think it's ready. Okay. Let's say this place is banging on a Friday night and there's, there's a hundred people here and you go, all right, time out. 91 of you go over there. Okay. And the 91, the other nine, you sit here.


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[Assistant] All 91 of you are going to pay for everything they eat and drink tonight. And you're going to sit there and watch them.


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[Assistant] And I was like, okay, so 91 folks, even if they were just getting it, you know, you're talking 25 bucks?


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[Assistant] It doesn't make sense. People are seeing that.


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[Assistant] There's so many reasons to be discouraged, Jaco. And you can always find one. You can always find no. You know, no's easy.


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[Assistant] It is. It's easy to see in the world. No, uhm, and it's easy to get Sturge. It's easy to get down, you know, uhm, with all the circumstances. But I'm telling you.


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[Assistant] If you wake up in the morning like I do, and you just have...


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[Assistant] A overwhelming sense of gratitude like we talked about. Just be so gracious. Look at yourself. Look at, look at the things, the opportunities that you have as a human being in the United States of America right now. To create something. To do something worthwhile. To help somebody out.


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[Assistant] That doesn't exist in a lot of countries. And when you just take a minute and go like, yeah, you know, I'm going to go buy that cop a cup of coffee. I do that for cops and they're like, I'm sorry, sir, I can't accept a gift. I'm like, you're not the boss of me, dude.


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[Assistant] Or you help out a homeless person, like help them out. Not just throw money at them, because that doesn't help anybody. I mean, it doesn't. The ability to do that is unique. And we gotta remember that. And you gotta tell your friends. And you gotta encourage your friends to tell other people. Because you've seen the downward spiral.


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[Assistant] You know, when things start going bad, and then it's just that. It's this, this negative feedback loop that people get into. We're in a negative feedback loop. But the inputs are coming from our government.


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[Assistant] And we should be in a negative feedback loop right now. So how do you get out of that? You put goodness in there. That's what we're doing. It's, I mean, some things are...


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[Assistant] So basically, you know, philosophical and it was interesting teaching special reconnaissance because you have time to reflect.


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[Assistant] When do you have time to reflect? I mean, they started with videos, remember they were like two minutes long? Then they made them one minute, then they made them thirty seconds.


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[Assistant] So, there's been a crunch of the attention span of people and it,


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[Assistant] It removes your ability to reflect on something. You truly don't understand something until you ponder it.


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[Assistant] And teaching special reconnaissance and doing special reconnaissance missions.


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[Assistant] And reflection and when you're, you're putting an author's voice inside of your mind because you're reading it.


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[Assistant] And you're, you know, you're hearing that inside. You're not receiving this like a television image. It's, you internalize it. So we're putting some good in there. Yeah, we're injecting good into the cycle.


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[Assistant] Seriously, so be encouraged. Listen people, I want you to be encouraged.


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[Assistant] You live in the best country in the world if you're in America right now. And if you're not, move here legally.


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[Assistant] Emigrate to the United States of America and we'll welcome you with open arms if you do it the right way. Check.


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[Assistant] Sure. Hey dude, we've got power. We've got rail.


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[Assistant] Uh, during the, uhm, summertime, we've got the Mississippi River to move, uh, commodities up and down, and I have the most fantastical, hardworking, uh, ethically sound badass Americans in the world.


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[Assistant] In the, in the country than hunters? Hunters need to vote. Like 30% of hunters vote.


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[Assistant] We all sit around and are, you know, griping about this and that. They don't vote. If you're a hunter, vote. Register and vote.


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[Assistant] Well, I tell you what, dude, uhm, let me get elected, keep working hard, and then, uh, student official visit.


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[Assistant] Uhm, cause I, listen, uhm, I will do anything to help the people that I'm representing. Those three conditions, morally, ethically, and legally, correct?


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[Assistant] Then we got, we have to find ways that meet those parameters with the end state of your congressional district, the state and the country are better off because of it. And it's just a little nose to the grindstone, dude. You really gotta think about what's taking place and then act on it.


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[Assistant] So we, we have a, we have a globally integrated economy. Right? It's carbon based. And, and I'm okay with that too.


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[Assistant] To an extent. What I'm not is, I'm not a globalist. And I understand that


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[Assistant] We need to make sure that we're putting the interest of our people.


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[Assistant] First, and the best example of this is


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[Assistant] Let's say you're, uhm, you know, a 98 year old person with osteoporosis, whatever, and you see someone being assaulted. Can you help that person?


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[Assistant] So you, you have to be strong in order to help somebody. And this administration either doesn't understand that or they don't care. So when you are, the difference between equality and equity is, uhm, everyone should have the


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[Assistant] Uhm, you guys, do you track, uhm, Dennis Prager? Yea. Okay, so PragerU, they did, you know, those series of four minute videos. They, they did this one. There's, if you do three things, doesn't matter where you start, on the lower socioeconomic scale, you're gonna wind up in the middle class.


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[Assistant] You do not have a child out of wedlock and you have a full-time child.


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[Assistant] That could be at the gas station, that could be anywhere, right? So you do these three things, statistically you're gonna wind up in the middle class.


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[Assistant] It just takes those things. And a lot of people give guff about, uhm, intergenerational wealth transfer. Right? Well, we were raised dirt poor. But my ma, cause she was a hard worker, when she died she had a home. And we sold the home cause we didn't want to live there.


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[Assistant] And then we had to pay a bunch of taxes and then we received this, you know, a little nest egg from my mom. That's money that went from one generation to another. That is intergenerational wealth transfer.


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[Assistant] Okay, so J Bell's his nickname. He was in Buds, and they're like,


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[Assistant] Okay, he just, uh, finished directing an episode of Seal Team. Oh, right. Over in Jordan, I think. Yeah, so we're buddies. I did him.


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[Assistant] So, Jay Bell, he's in Buds, and they're like,


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[Assistant] Wic and Snap and all that stuff. So you have, so when we were raising our kids, uhm, and, and this is a, it's a choice that you can make. So Sarah was an RN, she was an ICU nurse, and I was a E4, I guess. And we had our second child, and I think I made E5 by then. And we just looked at it and said, hey look,


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[Assistant] Her economic earning potential is three times what mine was. But we said we have these kids.


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[Assistant] And we chose to invest in the children.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? So Sarah stayed at home since we had our second child. And we supported ourselves, uhm, off a single enlisted person's salary. And we had, uhm, what's that? It's the, uhm, WIC. Women, Infant and Children. You know, like coupons to get milk and all that stuff. I mean, we were poor. But relatively speaking, you know, if you, you, you project it across the globe, we're still incredibly wealthy. If you look at that.


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[Assistant] In perspective, and I think when the Department of the Army just came on and said hey, instead of paying enlisted people more, put them on food stamps, that's an issue.


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[Assistant] The nexus of personal responsibility and, uh, governmental control. So the government's job is to make sure that the playing field is level.


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[Assistant] And also, we've gotten to the point where we seem to have demonized labor.


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[Assistant] So, we have to not take away the dignity of labor. You know what I mean? Like, I have a picture of my phone.


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[Assistant] I'm handing a young guy named Joey his first paycheck that ever in his life.


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[Assistant] So what is taking place in the United States of America is that for some reason we've allowed these folks to convince people that if you work with your hands, you're lower and you're lesser. So even for some people,


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[Assistant] If they're okay with their circumstances by working at Wendy's, and we have to understand that it's okay if that's what you're gonna do, but then again, if you want something more, that's the part where you gotta look inside, and I think that's what you're articulating. If you're not happy with your circumstance and the level, or the playing field is level, because the government has set conditions for everybody, level,


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[Assistant] And you're living in a place where you don't want to be. It's up to you to facilitate that change.


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[Assistant] Alright, so in the British Army they have something that's called the Regimental Corporal. Like in the American military you have to promote, promote, promote. Oh yea, yea, yea. Okay, so they have people that are corporals.


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[Assistant] Is when you work yourself into a place where you're content, it's okay to be content. I mean, it's nice to be content. Not complacent. There's a difference. So when you're content with your family situation, your school and your job and all that stuff, that's awesome. That's your American dream, man. You don't, you don't have to have a mansion in Beverly Hills. We've been just fooled.


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[Assistant] Highway 35 goes along the Mississippi River. I'll have the largest contiguous section of the Mississippi River of any congressional district in the country.


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[Assistant] Damn, it's beautiful. See this great house on a corner.


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[Assistant] Big, uh, garage. It's like a three story place. Truck in the driveway. This new pontoon boat with like a 250 horsepower motor or something. Outboard, you know, costs more than my truck. And so I whip in there, because I want to put a yard sign on this guy's. And I go, hey man, do you mind me asking what you do for a living? Lineman. Lineman.


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[Assistant] Went to trade school for two years, and he had two kids, and I can't remember his wife's name, for Pete's sakes. She was a radiology technician. Not a radiologist, but she...


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[Assistant] Okay, she went to trade school. So you got these two people who went to trade school, graduated from high school.


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[Assistant] You can't fix a toilet with a degree in 13th century French poetry. And you just can't. So why have we demonized the things that build this nation? You know what I mean? You can't.


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[Assistant] You can't pump the air conditioning in this room if you have a degree in communications. You gotta be a metal worker.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? You have to be a sheet metal worker to make ducting. So, one of the things that I'm doing, Jocko, is


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[Assistant] I consider myself, and I think that the federal government needs to do more cheerleading.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Because they know I have their back, 100%. I've lived in ungoverned space, I'm unwilling to do that in the United States. How do you prevent that? You support the police officers. That's what you do, right? So, I'm all in with these guys, uh, all the time. And I'm also all in


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[Assistant] With people that are going to trade school. So we have to have people in positions of power go, it is so awesome that you are protecting me. I tell them this, okay dude, so I'm a Christian.


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[Assistant] I was never afraid of being injured or killed. It was not part of my calculation


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? I, for me, I've read the end of the book, seen the end of the movie. I know what happens. Even be, I used to joke,


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[Assistant] I was never worried about that. What I was worried about was my family. You know what I mean? I was worried about my family.


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[Assistant] And the most precious gift you can have from my personal experience in a combat environment is like a two hour nap. Right?


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[Assistant] Because your brothers have guns and they're looking out and they're protecting you in your sleep.


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[Assistant] That's something I cherished, and I still do. Who does that for my family? Police officers. That's a gift.


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[Assistant] And when people are demonizing them, they just don't understand that.


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[Assistant] These people are literally watching your children as they sleep to make sure they're not harmed. What is more honorable than that? And noble? I don't know. Yeah, same thing with the guys and gals that are building our country.


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[Assistant] Honorable and it's noble and things don't work without that.


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[Assistant] So, the federal government needs to cheerlead. We need to tell people, you're not, you're only here because these people are working so hard. That's why you could drive your car to work. That's why you're eating. And that's why you have clothes.


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[Assistant] These are things that don't take these, you know, fancy pants degrees. And I don't have an issue. I mean, I went to law school.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? I get it. Higher education is very important. Graduate degrees are important. By the way, I finished my first year of law school and then did full-time congress. So I'm technically on a sabbatical. Which, I am.


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[Assistant] Uhm, gosh, I, uh, I, again, I want people to be encouraged. And, you know, how are you encouraged is you, you sit down and you, you practice, actively practice gratitude for what you got.


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[Assistant] And you understand that you are empowered to change your circumstances. And I know that because I was raised dirt poor in a single home.


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[Assistant] High school dropout, the whole works and jerks, and I'm going to Congress next year, so if I can do this...


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[Assistant] You can do it. It's, it's the same reason. I told you, man, I knew I could graduate from Buds because there is a seal with a trident on in front of me. Right? Means it's possible. So act. Right?


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[Assistant] Well, thank you for yours. Echo, it's really nice to meet you, man. Likewise. I'll give you my phone number, you can call me anytime. Sounds good. I think you already got it. Well, God bless you guys and your listeners, and uhm, I just wish you the best. Oh, hey, where's that thing? Oh, we got a baseball bat? Check this out. So, this...


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[Assistant] Got a hold of these guys. A couple played college balls. It's actually, uhm, four brothers and a sister. But, uhm, they decided to start making, uhm, baseball bats. So this bat,


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[Assistant] It meets all the standards to be used in Major League Baseball. And these dudes that bought this whole building started making these things.


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[Assistant] Three Brothers Back Company, dude. That is in my district, and that is another example of people saying, I have got a good idea. There's, I'll tell you one I gotta get out of here. Uhm, there's Weiser Concrete Company.


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[Assistant] Joe just died, uhm, gosh it must have been 16 months ago. Joe had like 6 kids and he had a house and marries his wife. Uhm, and he's like, I got an idea. I got an idea how to make concrete this certain way to make this stuff and it's gonna work. Mortgages his house again.


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[Assistant] So, you wanna talk about risk? Homeless Wisconsin, six kids?


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[Assistant] That's one of the things, people demonize business people. I'm like, the hardest...


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[Assistant] That, I would say the wealthiest people I know are some of the hardest working people I know. And, you know, that's their thing, that's their metric.


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[Assistant] As I started off, you know, I still do this. Uhm, I collect relationships with people.


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[Assistant] To me that is my metric of success. How many people do I know? At what level do I know them? How can I help them? Will they reach out to me if they need something? And can I facilitate that need? That's my metric of success. It always has been. Sarah Jane and I live on my enlisted retirement. You know what I mean? Because we don't chase nickels. It's not my thing.


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[Assistant] But if, if that, if you're a businessman, your metric, or woman, your metric of success, more likely than not, is financial. So therefore, if you're doing this, and that's the metric of success, you should be wealthy as a business person. If you're a doctor, you should be caring people. Uhm, so, I love that about this job, because I get to meet the most fascinating people. Like those dudes that made that bat for you.


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[Assistant] That got shipped overnight to my mother-in-law's house. It was delivered yesterday. Check. So I talked to the cats and they're like, Oh, you know this Jocko Willink guy? I'm like,


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[Assistant] And like no, so they follow your podcast, they watch it. I think that they've taken a lot of your lessons because they're incredibly squared away dudes. And family's awesome. And just their name, they have, you know, too many siblings to put it on a bat. That's why it's three brothers back company. But yeah, so that was made for you and I have one.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's in my office, which, uh, I think again, cheerleading for people is what


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[Assistant] That should be a primary function of politics. I mean, clearly you must write, uhm, functional policy, translate ideas into action, and you do that through the written word, vice-a-gun, like we used to do. But the rest is just telling, telling people about other people. You know what I mean? Like if, if, if I could, if I could tell you about all the people that I know, and what they've done,


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[Assistant] It would just be an endless conversation. And to me that means I am the most successful person in the world. Because that's my metric of success.


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[Assistant] Oh, one more thing, I forgot. VanOrdenForCongress.com


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[Assistant] I do those, I also make these little videos. And just try to explain.


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[Assistant] Uh, they go mostly on my social media. Okay. And then we also rip them over to YouTube.


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[Assistant] Anyway, I think that's actually just what it takes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm coming off of shoulder surgery, so, um, none, but usually two, three days. Uh huh. Yeah. What happened to the shoulder? I tore my labrum.


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[Assistant] I think I, in this particular tournament, I just belted blue. Yeaah. There's a lot of people that were unhappy the day they saw you in the freaking bracket.


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[Assistant] They're not the most conservative, uhm, which the preparedness genre fits in that somewhat. Uhm, they're not the most conservative and so it was hard convincing them of the message but the idea was to


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[Assistant] Market, and I hate using that word, but that's literally what I wanted to do because that's how I had access and placement to a broader audience. Because preparedness is an equal opportunist.


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[Assistant] Disaster will hand you your ass the same, and it doesn't care your background, your wealth bracket, all of those things. So it's very important for me to say, hey,


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[Assistant] Distill this information into a few hundred pages that allow people to understand what it is so they're not scared of it. They realize that it could fit potentially into their life without being intrusive and then benefit them in being prepared for the future.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for sure. So I, you know, my team start time, even my time as an 18 Bravo, which I was a special forces weapons guy. So our responsibility was training the team in tactics, techniques and procedures overseas. And, um, it was, it was ingrained in me early on, I think even in the infantry as a young guy.


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[Assistant] That training process and protocol, like you said, is the method to the madness. It's not necessarily the technical skill you're training. It's the process. So it's the understanding of, you know, how do you take in information? How are you prepared to respond and react to immediate versus imminent threats?


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[Assistant] That whole thing rewires your brain on how you approach life, environmental factors, threats.


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[Assistant] And I think I've always been a master trainer, especially in my job and my field. But then getting out and seeing the lack of training in the civilian world, as you described tourniquets. When we went in the military, me and you together in the 90s,


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[Assistant] Uhm, me on the army side, you on the navy side, a cravat and a stick was what we were using to stop the bleed. In the civil war in the 1860s, they utilized


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[Assistant] So, it wasn't hard to see in civilian life all of the gaps, cause there's so many. Especially culture. I mean, you have a culture here, uhm, in San Diego, with your gym, with MMA.


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[Assistant] That is like the foundation for all the things that we're talking about, but that's training. They're training to do something that's difficult, working with stress factors, and they're building resilience. That's all that training is.


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[Assistant] A lot of guys gravitate towards guns, cause guns, uh, shoot, move, communicates cool. But all the things, stop the bleed, mindset, resilience, they're all equally as important. I mean, statistically, a lot more of it, like stop the bleed, you're more likely to use than draw on your pistol in a gunfight.


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[Assistant] But if I told a gun guy, hey come to our canning and jarring course, how would that work out with you? Like I'd have to make that jar black multi-can for him to show up in order to do it. So, it's always been a passion of mine for sure.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so it was a joint op. It was actually involved the SEAL team that worked out with you. Uhm, and we were doing a hostage rescue in Sodder City. Uh, there were indige that were part of the hostage, um, located in the middle of Sodder City. We were actually set up in containment on the, the,


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[Assistant] Basically from, uh, if people are familiar with solder city, they would understand this, but it was set up like a baseball diamond. So from home to third base, we set containment with tanks and Bradleys. I don't know if you remember this, but during that time period, task force was using team rocks.


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[Assistant] Which were brads and tanks to infiltrate the location. In fact, one of the reasons we started utilizing that is because I believe three seals, it might've been two seals and a support guy.


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[Assistant] We had to come up with different strategies, including using tanks and brides to sec out our quarter armor containment.


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[Assistant] In a nutshell, hostage rescue goes down with the assault force. Me and another sniper co-located with the big army because they're the ones who have the tanks and brads to liaison. I have an RTO with us that's an assault force RTO. And as we're communicating back and forth, what turns into what's, what typically was going to be a hostage rescue in and out


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[Assistant] Unfolded into mighty militia responding in this big gunfight.


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[Assistant] It was hard for them to break contact off the assault force X off the objective. And so we were taking all their bad guys that were pointing into us and their QRF that were pointing into them. We were dealing with them. The tanks of Bradley certainly were. So we were in a position on a third story building.


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[Assistant] That as this D evolves, it certainly did, uh, we got to the point where the sun was coming up and you know, solder city, like that's the worst thing that you could do unless you're Chris Kyle during that deployment because he was, he was cleaning some stuff up in solder city during daylight hours.


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[Assistant] When that went down, we had to figure out a way to support them as they ex-filled except we were pinned down in our location.


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[Assistant] At one point, you know, airbursts, RPGs, mortar rounds impacting around us, uhm, direct machine gun fire on top of our position. It was, it was the closest I'd been


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[Assistant] And the longest version of it of being killed, like I've had close calls that were instances and it's over. This was like, dude, this is not going to end, man. Um, and it was, it was ugly, but it was, it was super engaging and I learned a lot about the incident. The, the harrowing part of it was enough 16.


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[Assistant] Which, uh, I talked to you about, um, it was, it was a Navy F-16, I think I said it was Navy F-16, but the Navy was controlling, um, an F-16. Got it. And it was an Air Force bird.


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[Assistant] And we had a controller on the ground with the assault force and in my position at an RTO, except he couldn't make comms. We were hearing comms, but we couldn't transmit comms. And so I'm like yelling at my RTO and he couldn't do anything and I'm like, dude, this is impossible. And that bird comes out of orbit and we hear the call that he identified bad guys on a rooftop.


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[Assistant] And we're like on a third story building. I'm thinking, and I got a machine gutter, uh, from the big army from fourth infantry division, killing bad guys on the back end of this. So if we give up this rooftop.