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[Assistant] Reconnaissance patrols are used primarily to secure information, maintain contact with the enemy or observe terrain. They avoid unnecessary combat and accomplish their mission by stealth. Reconnaissance patrols engage in firefights only when necessary to accomplish their mission or to protect themselves. So you see the dichotomy here? We want you to do a reconnaissance, but we want you to destroy any enemy that you find. That's two different things.


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[Assistant] That's saying I want you to fight someone and run away from them. At the same time.


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[Assistant] A combat patrol executes missions which they, which may require fighting to accomplish or to help accomplish. Every combat patrol secures information as a secondary mission. Then here's the comment. This patrol had been given two primary missions. Reconnaissance and combat without any indication as to which has priority. Prioritize and execute.


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[Assistant] The directive to destroy any enemy found in the area, if taken as a primary mission, will preclude successful, will preclude successful operation as a reconnaissance patrol. The mission should have been either combat with reconnaissance as a secondary mission or reconnaissance alone, in which case the patrol would engage in combat only to the extent necessary to complete its reconnaissance mission.


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[Assistant] Think about that. When you're assigning someone a mission, make sure they understand what the damn mission is and don't assign them to missions that are opposed to each other.


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[Assistant] And when you do assign people two or three missions or tasks or projects, make sure they know what the priority mission is, what the priority project is.


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[Assistant] By 1115, personnel and equipment had crossed and were waiting for scheduled artillery concentration before moving forward. At 1130, 80 rounds of 105 was fired. After completion of the artillery fire, the patrol reconnoitered along the route to the beach.


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[Assistant] For purposes of command and control, the patrol was divided into three sections. Consisting respectively of 2nd Lieutenant Y and 10 men.


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[Assistant] And the comment is actually command and control were not improved by this organization as was demonstrated later.


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[Assistant] Lieutenant Y, in addition to commanding the patrol, was also commanding one of the sections. Lieutenant X, as a section leader, was now under the command of his junior lieutenant.


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[Assistant] So when you're supposed to be in charge of a patrol, and then you take charge of a section, you're not gonna be able to control everything.


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[Assistant] At this time, radio communications with the battalion commander at outpost was established. However, radio soon went out. Did not function thereafter. Contact. The first contact with the enemy came shortly after the reorganization had been completed. About 20 Japs with armed, armed with automatic weapons attacked the perimeter from the southwest. Apparently this group had followed the trail made by the patrol.


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[Assistant] After their arrival, so now they go back to this perimeter that they had. After their arrival at C, the firing stopped and a temporary perimeter was organized. So they, they get back, they regroup, they got too wounded.


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[Assistant] Lieutenant X, finding the men too closely grouped, ordered two sections to move for further inland. Neither section moved as far as Lieutenant X intended, so he signaled them to move further.


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[Assistant] So they're in a perimeter, Lieutenant X says, hey, push out from the perimeter a little bit. They don't really move far enough, so he gives them a signal to move further.


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[Assistant] This signal was interpreted to mean that the sections were to return to the river via separate routes.


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[Assistant] As had been discussed earlier when the patrol first reorganized at sea because both sections moved out.


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[Assistant] Leaving Lieutenant X by himself with his 20 men. So now we have completely, we have three different sections out here. Three different elements out there.


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[Assistant] The loss of control can undoubtedly be attributed to the poor chain of command in the patrol organization to sudden change in command from Lieutenant Y to Lieutenant X while the patrol is in contact with the enemy and to a failure to reach clear understanding of plans and signals.


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[Assistant] You can see how these little compounding problems, and if you look at your organization, if you look at what you're doing inside of your business, what little, what little mistakes are you making?


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[Assistant] Is it communication? Is it chain of command? Are you not mutually supporting each other? Do people not understand what the mission is?


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[Assistant] You see, this applies to everything that we do with any kind of team. The trip back, the platoon sergeant with his 13 men followed the route M. So basically they all start going back in different directions. They crossed the river without incident and reported back to, so they get back.


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[Assistant] This first group of 13 guys gets back to the, to the command post, the battalion command post. Second Lieutenant Y and his 10 men made it wider circuit and they


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[Assistant] Report back to the battalion an hour later without having contacted the enemy. Okay, so we're doing pretty good.


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[Assistant] But First Lieutenant X realized that the other two sections had gone, he proceeded to the river to another route and he's got the wounded guys. One of the wounded died en route and the body was carried.


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[Assistant] The section reached one point on the river without difficulty but found the point on the river that they got, the river was 30 feet wide.


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[Assistant] And the current was very swift. And it would have been dangerous. Even for excellent swimmers. An attempt to reach the original crossing site was unsuccessful because the enemy was in position.


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[Assistant] Because the enemy, they tried to go back where they originally crossed. That's where they try and go back to. And guess what? The enemy's waiting for them there.


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[Assistant] Obviously they know how hard it is to cross this river, they know the crossing points.


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[Assistant] Patrol should return from a- this is a comment. Patrol should return from a mission over a different route to avoid ambush. Alternate crossing points could have been determined by reconnaissance before the combat patrol was sent out.


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[Assistant] It appears that the enemy allowed the patrol to cross the river unopposed and planned to ambush it by closing in behind.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so now Lieutenant X goes back. So they get, they get fought away from the place where they originally crossed.


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[Assistant] He sets up a perimeter anticipation of attack by the enemy. A sergeant was then sent out with the mission of crossing the river and reporting to the battalion commander for help.


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[Assistant] The next section is called The Rescue. Meanwhile, the battalion commander had received a situation report from the leader of the section which returned


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[Assistant] When you see it on the terrain, where this element wants to cross over, they're gonna cross the river, but they're gonna cross onto like a little mini island, where they'll have to do another freaking crossing, but they don't know that because they haven't done recon.


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[Assistant] So, this group is preparing to cross the river to aid the remainder of the troll.


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[Assistant] When they observed Lieutenant Y in his section, crossing back.


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[Assistant] So he goes back out again. And again, this is the battalion commander. This is a very senior guy going out to execute this rescue mission. In order to evacuate, and they link up. In order to evacuate the wounded, it was decided that a rope must be used. Several attempts by Lieutenant X to cross the river with the rope were unsuccessful. Finally, the battalion commander and four others grasped hands and formed a human chain out into the water. Lieutenant X removed his clothes and tied the rope.


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[Assistant] As he was carried downstream by the current. As the men in the human chain with the aid of others on the bank were pulling Lieutenant X and the rope ashore.


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[Assistant] An enemy machine gun opened up from the northwest bank, although the rope was eventually secured on the island. One man had been killed and five wounded, including the battalion commander. The wounded were evacuated to the outpost where the battalion commander died within an hour.


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[Assistant] The men on the island stayed in position to cover the crossing of the remaining 17 men on the far bank. One of the two wounded men with this group of the 17 was successfully evacuated but the other was swept away and drowned while trying to cross.


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[Assistant] It is believed that all of the uninjured men in the group could have crossed the river before the enemy closed in on them had they not chosen to stick it out in hopes of getting the wounded across. So there you go. These guys were brave. They wanted to stay with their friends and they end up losing just about everybody because they're trying to get these wounded guys across.


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[Assistant] The comment, the patrol crossed a difficult obstacle and moved rapidly deep into hostile territory where the enemy situation was obscure. So start this whole, this whole thing.


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[Assistant] We better have a damn good plan. We don't know what the enemy situation is up there. And how deep are we gonna go?


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[Assistant] Like, you know what you do in a situation like that, Equatorz? You put really good fire support on one side of the river. And say, alright guys, you know, go, go across, go ahead. If something happens, we got you.


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[Assistant] And then you don't go on a lengthy patrol without good support.


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[Assistant] And you saw me give you a hand signal like to go out, set up a, push out a little bit further, and you saw another hand signal with me? From me?


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[Assistant] There would be no part of your brain that would be thinking I would be telling you to split forces and go back to base. No part of your brain would think that. You would know that I would, that I would want to stick together.


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[Assistant] You would know that. Everyone would know that. Everyone on the team would think, hey, the only way we're splitting forces, if Jocko comes over and looks at me and says, hey, we're splitting forces, here's the new plan. Other than that, we're sticking together.


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[Assistant] That's like an implied commander's intent from me always. We are sticking together. We will cover and move for each other for sure, but we're not going to get separated where we can't mutually support each other. That's not, that's not a good thing ever.


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[Assistant] Provide cover, move to high ground, any of those things. But to say split forces, it would be, he would need to, he would actually


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[Assistant] Yes, and let me tell you what one of them is, cover and move. If you get, cover and move is what I live by, it's a first law of combat, right? First law of combat is cover and move.


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[Assistant] If I'm telling you to go away from me, we can't cover and move anymore, and Leif, Leif hears that and goes, wait a second, Jocko doesn't want me to cover and move, that's crazy, something's going on that I need to understand, or it's a miscommunication.


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[Assistant] He's not like, oh cool, later. No, it violates one of the principles of combat leadership. And it's not gonna happen.


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[Assistant] You know, like, uh, Dave Burke gets a request from a client. Yeah, yeaah. You know, and I say,


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[Assistant] Check. Uh, before we jump to this next section, that section right there was the section that I kinda wanted to


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[Assistant] That, that kinda caught me because it's a very good debrief.


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[Assistant] We get the gist of the battle, we get the experience of battle from one man's vision.


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[Assistant] But to get an after action debrief like that, and you can imagine how


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[Assistant] This is, this is just one little tiny example. One little tiny example. And, and that's why


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[Assistant] Where a bunch of guys get killed, a bunch of guys get wounded, and why does it happen? It's so clear why it happens. They give you the reasons. You have multiple chains of command, you have guys splitting forces, there's unclear communication. Like, you should know these things.


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[Assistant] And look what else you're facing out there. You got your enemy, right? What else you got? Uh, the river. The river. Oh, that doesn't sound like a big deal, but people drowned.


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[Assistant] And you make a movie and you actually go into the horror and panic of each individual that jumps into the water with 64 pounds of gear, they're not a great swimmer, they go to the bottom panicking, fighting,


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[Assistant] And drowning and dying. A horrible death. And that's happening all over the place on that day.


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[Assistant] And then meanwhile, if you survive, if you somehow get your shit together and get your gear off, and now you get to the beach, you're getting freaking strafed by enemy elevated, bunkered machine gun positions.


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[Assistant] Check. Last section of volume seven is called OP and CP security. Observation post and command post security.


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[Assistant] Needless casualties, delays, and expenditures of effort are being caused by breaches of OP and security rules. So what he's saying is like, look, we've been fighting this war for three and a half, four years, and even right now, we have to explain what to do, how to maintain security.


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[Assistant] Carelessness cost lives. Cost lives. Reported by technician, 5th grade, Ernest J. Lange. 135th Infantry.


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[Assistant] We stayed in one CP for two weeks without drawing a shell and it felt quite secure, for we had been told that the enemy hadn't been shelling in that particular vicinity for the past 30 days. However,


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[Assistant] A few of the men either forgot or disregarded their instructions.


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[Assistant] They washed some white towels and shirts and hung them out to dry, an effective signal for the enemy artillery fire upon our command post.


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[Assistant] Three of our men were killed in the shelling that followed this breach of security.


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[Assistant] After being shelled out of two CP locations, the first time with severe casualties, we reorganized a sadly depleted CP group and opened for business in another building.


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[Assistant] A third story battalion OP in the same building could be reached only by passing a large open window on a stair landing. Since the entire village was under enemy observation and direct fire, it was necessary to crawl past this open window.


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[Assistant] To ensure that this would be done, a sentry was stationed in the stairway. So, there's a window.


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[Assistant] All went well until it was discovered that the Sergeant Major had just covered the opening with a large sheet of tin


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[Assistant] So that the sentry could be released for work with the wire team.


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[Assistant] You could, you could use the word guard and sentry. Same word. Synonym. Gotcha.


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[Assistant] Sentry might have a little bit more tone of military sentry, as opposed to a guard of a prison. So a sentry is more like someone that's standing watch.


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[Assistant] We would use the term watch, like hey, I got watch. As opposed to saying hey, you're on sentry duty.


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[Assistant] In the, in the Navy, you generally call it just watch. So even, hey, who's got, like in the barracks, I'll be like, who's got fire watch?


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[Assistant] Or, you have watch, cause you stand in watch sections on the ship.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay, so and you could put obviously this century Was all he was doing was telling people what do hey get down when you go across that window, right? We wasn't actually


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[Assistant] Protecting the perimeter. He was protecting the troops from doing something stupid.


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[Assistant] This incident thoroughly impressed our personnel with the folly of signaling OP and CP locations to the enemy by altering the outward appearance of the building after occupancy.


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[Assistant] That particular error was not repeated. They just got lucky that day. And I bet someone's like, wait, Sergeant Major, what'd you do? You put a piece of tin up? Dude, we gotta get outta here. You're an idiot. Sergeant Major, with all due respect, you're an idiot. And now the enemy knows we're here, and we gotta get outta here.


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[Assistant] Reported by the commanding general 1st Infantry Division, officers, this one is so important, officers visiting the frontline units should be warned against actions that might reveal to the enemy the locations of our installations.


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[Assistant] In one case, an observation post was located in a wrecked building. Inside walls of the rooms had been camouflaged to give a dark background, instruments had been set well back in the rooms, and observers were careful to move about only in the shadows. All went well until the day some visiting officers stopped by.


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[Assistant] They moved about freely, even leaning out of the windows with their field glasses. Within a half an hour, the building was completely destroyed by enemy fire. One of our observers was killed.


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[Assistant] That's the situation when you roll down to the front lines and you think you're just gonna be cool. Yeah, and in my mind I'm thinking, I'm not even thinking that they were being stupid.


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[Assistant] Uh, Leif's got a funny story about going to the government center for the first time in downtown Ramadi and


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[Assistant] That wraps up this, this particular volume, volume seven. And you know,


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[Assistant] This book had some sections that I didn't cover, uhm, because


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[Assistant] Look, I find leadership lessons everywhere, but when we're talking about using cable footbridge to cross rivers, like I found a little bit of, it was really a stretch. It was really a stretch. I kept it to the leadership principles. It's good. So there we go. All right. How do we, uh, how do we stay on the path?


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[Assistant] Well, could be mothers. I guess we can't have anyone relying on us if we can't rely on ourselves. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm trying to say.


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[Assistant] Some people would rather let, let themselves down than let other people down. Some people would rather, they don't care about someone else, but they would not want to let themselves down.


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[Assistant] Either one of those, let's not let anyone down. Let's get that level 10 and keep it. Is what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] It's kind of like what milk did to desserts, right? That's exactly what happened. Yes sir. What milk did to desserts is what discipline go does to energy drinks. Let's face it, you kind of like the taste of an energy drink, you kind of like the fact that it gets you a little amped.


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[Assistant] What you don't like is you crash. What you don't like is it's bad for you. What you don't like is it, you get the freaking jitters.


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[Assistant] And what you don't like is you're giving yourself type 2 diabetes, which also sucks. That does suck for sure. So there's no reason for any of that. No. Kinda like dessert. You feel like crap after you eat a big whatever. Freakin' horrible dessert filled with sugar. You just have monk.


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[Assistant] You want to hear a non-traditional use of MOLK that I've been doing?


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[Assistant] Dessert shots. Have you ever heard of this concept? It's just a really small dessert. Yeah, but it's kind of cool cuz let's face it you get done with a piece of


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[Assistant] Big prime rib and a caesar salad and you're kind of stoked, but then you think I kind of want something sweet too, but I don't want to get a Reagan, you know, whatever big giant dessert. So I'm just going to get myself a little little Sunday shot at this particular restaurant. I used to go to back in the day, which is closed now, unfortunately, because it was a damn good restaurant.


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[Assistant] Lately, I've been doing, like I'm, like, the same thing, but I've been doing shots of Monk. Just maybe a little bit bigger than a shot, but just enough where you're like, eh, you know what.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that would work I think. Now I'll just keep a mulk mixed up in the fridge. Oh yeah. And just pour a little shot. And just get a little hitter.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's face it, it's real good. Uh, you can get, you can get the drink at, at Wawa if you're on the east coast, which is, y'all have been crushing it and going and clearing the shelves. Keep clearing them. Let them know what's up. Let them see what's up. We're going to Florida.


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[Assistant] That's gonna cost a lot of money, right? Delivery. No, actually, it's not gonna cost any money. It's gonna be free. If you subscribe to any of these items, so you get your Super Krill every month, you get your, your Joint Warfare every month, you get your Mulk every month, so you don't run out.


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[Assistant] And go back in time to a, to a, to a horrible scenario where you wake up achy.


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[Assistant] Don't let that happen. Subscribe. Free shipping. JockoFuel.com. Get some.


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[Assistant] I was running today, and there's a guy, I'm like running, and there's a guy sees me and he's running, running at each other, and he's wearing a Nate Diaz sweatshirt.


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[Assistant] Represent, you know, it just says represent, but I know, I know what that means. I know that's Nate Diaz. And he sees me and he reaches down, like grabs the bottom of the Nate Diaz sweatshirt, represent, he pulls up the shirt.


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[Assistant] And he's representing while on the path. Discipline equals freedom t-shirt. Freaking legit. Oh yeaah. So I was like thinking that's freaking, that's like a double.


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[Assistant] Double bonus scenario. Not only is this dude down with Nate Diaz, which is fully approved, he's also down with the cause.


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[Assistant] Which kinda tells me we're aligned with the whole, like, that tells me we're aligned. Like, we, we, we got people, you know? Like, we're just aligned.


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[Assistant] Check. I like where you're at. Uh, subscribe to the podcast if you haven't yet. Also check out Jocko Unraveling Podcast with Daryl Cooper DC. Drop a knowledge. Grounded Podcast. I talked to Dean about getting some of those back online. Warrior Kid Podcast as well. You can also join us


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[Assistant] In the underground. At the underground. On the underground. JockoUnderground.com. It's an alternative podcast. We've been talking about a bunch of wild things on there. Things that are not quite Jocko podcast material, but they're adjacent material, amplifying material. We've talked about a bunch of psychology. We talk about group dynamics. We do talk about leadership.


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[Assistant] We talk about, and we've been doing Q&A on there as well. So, the reason we have that is because we don't know what's gonna happen with all these platforms that we're on. And we did get, we did get some, is it called censorship? We didn't get fully censored, but we got some warnings on one of the last podcasts that we did about the Armenian genocide. So, who knows?


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[Assistant] We can't, I know, I do know, you know who knows I know, I know that we can't leave ourselves at the whim of...


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[Assistant] Someone having control over what we do. So we created another platform. It's jocounderground.com. And if you want to help us build and maintain that platform, it's $8.18 a month.


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[Assistant] There's some layers behind that. But if you want to help us out, then do that and you can get this other podcast called Jocko Underground. You can ask questions and that also prevents us from having to interject advertisements about


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[Assistant] You know, various things that you might not need. Yeaah. Things that you don't want to hear about. Probably not. Yeaah. When you press play for Jocko Podcast.


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[Assistant] So, hey, check it out. Jock Warner. Look, if you can't afford that, we're here.


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[Assistant] We're not trying to make like this, uh, we're not trying to leave people out.


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[Assistant] We don't want, if you're out there with a freaking Nate Diaz t-shirt, uh, sweatshirt and a, and a Discipline Equals Freedom t-shirt under your Nate Diaz sweatshirt,


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[Assistant] And you can't afford this? We're good. We got you covered. Email assistance at jockawonderground.com. We'll get you taken care of.


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[Assistant] I just had to go statistical on you right now. Mmm, statistical. 100%. FlipsideCampus.com. My brother Dakota Meyer making freaking awesome stuff to hang on your wall that will also keep you on the path. I've written a bunch of books. Final spin.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I'm gonna win this argument with my publisher.


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[Assistant] But I'm trying to get where it says first edition.


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[Assistant] Four? It's ridiculous. But here's the cool thing. That book, I'm reading it and I'm freaking loving reading it. And I get the same thing, I used to have this with Way of the Warrior Kid, where I'm reading it.


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[Assistant] And I kind of forget that I wrote it because it's fiction, so I didn't live it. When I'm reading Extreme Ownership or Leadership Strategy and Tactics, it's very much me, right? This is, it's me that wrote it, but you're kind of,


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[Assistant] You know, I was on Lex, you know Lex Friedman? Yea, of course. I just did a podcast with him and he said that I speak


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[Assistant] Like, so however the Russian language is, which you can kind of guess when you hear a Russian person speak English,


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[Assistant] You know, send location. Like that kind of thing.


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[Assistant] He says that I speak English as if I'm a Russian human.


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[Assistant] So that book is definitely written in a very, let's say, lean, lean methodology. But I'm stoked. It's coming out if you want to get that first a dish.


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[Assistant] You're gonna know and I'm gonna know and it's, it's gonna be uncomfortable. We're not gonna like it. But when you, it's sorta like when you got that first a dish, like let's face it, we kinda have a connection.


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[Assistant] Extreme ownership, dichotomy of leadership, the OGs, Ashland Fronts, my leadership consultancy. Go to ashlandfront.com if you want us to bring these leadership principles into your organization.


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[Assistant] We've just released some new courses. You can take a course about each chapter of extreme ownership. We get granular on those and we're on there live all the time. Well, not all the time, but multiple times a week. You can ask me whatever question you want. Go to efonline.com. The muster. We're executing Orlando completed.


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[Assistant] Completed. Next up is Phoenix. August 17th and 18th. Then Las Vegas, October 28th and 29th. It's on. It's on.


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[Assistant] It's on. Uhm, can I declare COVID over? I guess I don't have the power to do that, but I can say that I've been doing live events. I can say that people are vaccinated or whatever and we seem to be rapidly approaching.


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[Assistant] The way things used to be. And I'm on board for that. EF Battlefield, I'll let you know the next time that goes down. And if you want to help service members active and retired, their families, Gold Star families, check out Mark Lee's mom, Mama Lee. She's got an awesome charity organization. And one of the primary things that she does is she gets


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[Assistant] Medical treatments for service members, most of them SEALs. One of the big things she does is get people these awesome treatments in pure oxygen.


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[Assistant] Hyperbaric chambers, they do like month long treatments, pay for the whole thing, put people up in hotels so they can get it done. It's been hugely helpful to all kinds of people. So if you want to help with that, she does a bunch of other things too. That's just the tip of the iceberg. AmericasMightyWarriors.org


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[Assistant] And if you want more of my historical harangs or you need more of Echo's bewildering babble, then you got some today.


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[Assistant] That opener, that opener was, you know, that opener question.


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[Assistant] Echoes Attico Charles and I am at Jocko Willink and thanks to everyone out there in uniform around the world right now putting all these lessons learned to use to protect our freedom and the same goes to the people here on the home front, our police, law enforcement, firefighters, paramedics, EMTs, dispatchers, correctional officers, border patrol, secret service, and all first responders.


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[Assistant] Thank you for your sacrifices to protect us here at home. And to everyone else out there, remember that the first function of leadership is discipline. And that discipline starts with yourself. It is us.


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[Assistant] Thank you. It's awesome to be here on your podcast. Uh, I follow it for a long time and eventually I thank you for inviting me and it's an honor to be here.


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[Assistant] Just even from, uh, well, let me just bag out a little bit. When I came to America, I came with a bag of clothes and ten Phoenix, the German, it was like less than ten cents in my pocket.


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[Assistant] To you, to American people. So, I promised myself that, uh, I would be the best citizen.


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[Assistant] That promise I, I tried to, I still keep it deep in my heart that, uh, yes, I am, I'm successful, I've succeeded, but there is so much more to do for America, for our country. And, uh, that's what I, that was my goal, be the best American citizen America can have.


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[Assistant] My father was communist. He was, uh, he was a professor, he was a teacher, then became, uh, became, uh, party member. They joined the Polish. That's literally not communism, more socialism. Uh, they're very the same, we can talk about the differences later, but, so my father was a party member. My mother was,


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[Assistant] Uh, was a teacher. She was an elementary school teacher.


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[Assistant] So when I was born, my father was already starting his career with political communist, Polish Communist Party.


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[Assistant] I think that's what it was. Uhm, but you know, he came from very poor family too. So the opportunity they gave it to him, say look, if you just close your eyes on some moral aspect of socialism and just follow that our doctrine and you're gonna be successful.


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[Assistant] Art and culture, so, uh, he was successful, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Uh, neither my mom, neither my father's mom. I remember, uh, that, that was big rift in our, in our entire family. I remember as a little kid, maybe six, seven years old, visiting my grandmother. And, I mean, my father's mother, my grandmother, yeaah.


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[Assistant] And she always was telling me communists are evil, they are devils. Socialists is evil, socialism is evil system.


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[Assistant] If you're part of these murders that are quietly happening in Poland, so you are evil and I don't want to consider you to be my son. There she was very adamant about it.


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[Assistant] So for me it was like, I always remember before going to bed, we were, my grandmother teach me how to pray, so I was praying and I remember we always close the prayer, God, please help us to take all the communisms, communists and socialists out of Poland.


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[Assistant] So I just kind of grew up with it and it was never different. And the rift between my mom and my father, I still remember, I don't remember what age it was, but,


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[Assistant] We cannot go because I'm going to lose my job. We cannot go. I'm going to lose my job. We are not going to church. The church, the communism and church and socialism and church are not compatible. And we're just not going there. So my grandmother was visiting at the same time.


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[Assistant] But a difficult tool for us because at that time in Poland, it's changed now, but at that time in Poland, if your parents divorced, you as a child were stigmatized.


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[Assistant] Remember, I'm 60 years old, so I was born 15 years after Second World War. So this is, I was born with a less, this time distance.


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[Assistant] Actually, couple notes I found from my, uh, from my notebook from school. That was elementary school, like later classes, like seventh grade about communism and socialism. Yes, you were indoctrinated, uh, from the very beginning in socialism and communism. And the, the things are very, uh, funny there because,


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[Assistant] People don't subscribe to slavery, so, so socialism is not really that good system. They don't want it. So they, they, uh, I remember they forced us in fifth grade, I was in fifth grade, elementary school, and we had to learn Russian. I was not really, I was never,


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[Assistant] Uh, my mother, she was a teacher in different schools, so they, they, they, they called the police, the secret police came in, they picked my mom, they drove her to, uh, to principal where I was already waiting there, scared shitless.


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[Assistant] And, uh, they, uh, they say, so what happened? So the teacher explained that I am anti-socialist. Apparently I don't like socialism and I am, uh,


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[Assistant] So my mom is all in tears, she's scared, all shaking, then they dragged my brother into it, dragged my sister, they had no idea what's going on. So we sit up there and they were very clear. I still remember that if it happens again, these kids will go to orphanage, the government will make them good citizens if you cannot do that. So this is your last warning.


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[Assistant] So that, uh, that's, uh, the other interesting part of it is that, like, uh, today I have a 11 years old, 12 years old daughter, 11 years old son. I'm looking over them like, how?


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[Assistant] Don't let them go anywhere where I can see them. They can play, but I have to be always able to go and assist if something happens.


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[Assistant] What didn't happen in Poland? In Poland, I remember, I was 7, 8, I was 8 years old, I was driving across the town, taking bus, crossing the streets, going to somewhere else, and it was like there's no big deal. All the kids, they were just 10 miles away from school.


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[Assistant] When we have to commute and we'll just commute. It was like no big deal. My mom just bought me a ticket. So every time I...


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[Assistant] Get into the bus, if I could, because it was so crowded, you just have to pull yourself in, and sometimes the doors don't close, so you're just holding yourself in it, your legs are sticking out, but you're just going to school.


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[Assistant] My mom apparently feels safe about it and maybe this is because there was no internet at the time. So some of the crime that happened was not very transparent. It was not very readily, the information about it was not readily available. So people didn't know something bad happened. So I remember going to kindergarten. So I was, uh, that was, I think I was five and a half years old.


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[Assistant] So we had to go from, uh, from our home. I took my younger brother. So he was maybe three and a half.


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[Assistant] We're going to around the school, around the street, across the street. Actually a friend of mine got killed on the street by the motorcycle. So, but it was like not a big deal. So when you go across the street, you look left, you look right and make sure nothing is there.


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[Assistant] They, uh, they oppressed Poland, so why do I have to learn their language? So there was nearly not so much political, but the state was very political. The state was very, uh, they were very cautious with citizens. They wanted to control, they did control almost every aspect of social life. That's what socialism is. And, uh, so,


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[Assistant] Poland had so much, so enough of these lies, because what happened is, we had empty shelves, there was nothing to eat, and you can't buy food, you can't buy clothes, you can't buy food insurance.


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[Assistant] That was just people that knew that this lie. So they got so fed up that eventually, no matter what that socialist press said, people didn't believe it. They say that this is, this is


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[Assistant] Brown people think they are lying even if it was brown. This is how they had enough. It had to explode. And that thing was cumulating. First the people lost the faith in the government, they lost the faith


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[Assistant] In the truth, the lies that are being told, they stop paying attention to it. So at the end, no matter what they say,


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[Assistant] People didn't believe. They had enough of it. And it exploded in the Solidarity Trade Union movement where people just raised up and say enough is enough. We had enough of socialism and communism.


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[Assistant] Younger brother and sister, so sometimes I had to fight for my brother too, quite often. Uhm, and so the boxing was important for me to kind of like


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[Assistant] Technical skills now. And it worked great. I mean, I really liked it. But then, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, and so my mom just goes, come on in. And she's like, look at me, I'm like half of his size. And this guy is huge and he's crying. So, uh, it's like, so that guy be your son.


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[Assistant] I was like, yeah, yeah, you see what he did to him? So if your son that big let him happen to that, I think he deserves it. Why don't you just guys leave?


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[Assistant] Was there like an official program or something? There was an official program, yes. Actually, there was the police club. I didn't know about that time, but the clubs like this were owned usually by the police. So yeaah, I belonged to, they called it Guardia. So yeaah, I belonged to this club, but when I nailed this guy, I broke my hand.


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[Assistant] I knocked the guy out. And so the guy is laying there. The guy, the judge comes to me, say like, you've been disqualified from the program. I mean, not quite disqualified, but he's the winner.


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[Assistant] I was able to help other political prisoners as a friend of mine, who actually I've met again when I visited Poland recently. So uhm, since I didn't have anything to do up there, just sit and we'll just


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[Assistant] Just be like, hey, you're so dirty, I'm so dirty, let's go train. So we're training. He said, look, what you did to me helped me later survive the beatings that I got from the guards and all that stuff.


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[Assistant] Was, uh, I started listening to Radio Free Europe and the Voice of America and BBC.


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[Assistant] So, so I was learning about it. I was learning also about the murders, the extrajudicial, uh, uh, murders, uh, committed by judges in Poland who subscribe to socialist ideology.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that's where it started changing, uh, in me. They say this is not the wrong, this is wrong what's, what's going on in Poland. How did those murders take place?


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[Assistant] And that's it. And then just they drive me and say like, I say like, where are we going? I say, well, where we go, once we've made that it won't matter anymore to you anything.


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[Assistant] I was like, oh fuck. So I'm already thinking like, hey, uh, so if we get out of this car, I'm going to kick this guy out, I'm going to do this, they're going to shoot me, they're going to kill me most likely, but at least I'm not going to go down quietly. And uhm, but we just drove around the town.


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[Assistant] Uh, that started happening when, uh, that happened after I was released from prison. But before that, this is how these people disappear. They don't like you, you are outspoken.


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[Assistant] It was just something that was waking up in me. That this socialist system is very oppressive and you can't leave as a free man


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[Assistant] When, uh, in a, in an operation like this. I remember actually what, at that time it was also downing on me that there's different countries that have different systems that are free. I learned about America.


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[Assistant] I remember in Warsaw, every time I was in Warsaw, I always liked to go to US Embassy because they have those.


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[Assistant] Why, why Poland cannot be like that? You know, why? This is so awesome. I remember every chance I had. So this is like when, when I look at American flag, something like taking my heart, it's like, this is so free. This is, this is the, this is the freedom.


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[Assistant] It, when it crystallized, I remember, uh, the first strikes happen, uh, people were hungry, so I wanna, we want food and freedom.


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[Assistant] And, uh, this is how it went. And so then we start, uh, there was really not much to do at the time because the solidarity was doing everything. There were, there was the first trade union, there was the first movement in Eastern bloc country that was independent from


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[Assistant] They will hang us. These people hate us really for what the socialism done to these people.


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[Assistant] They will prosecute us. So they impose martial law.


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[Assistant] So then people are still coming, hey, they just shut down all the TVs, all the radios. There's no communication, all the telephone lines didn't work.


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[Assistant] It is so ridiculous now when I'm listening to what I say and it is so, sounds so weird, but that was the fact then. That was the, the way


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[Assistant] But, you know, we didn't know that I'm any better, so we just print what happened, we print the names of the, uh, uh, of people arrested, so the families know that these people just didn't disappear.


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[Assistant] So what's the, what's the prison conditions? Uh, prison conditions, for me at the time, I didn't know any better. I, I said like, prison I thought always has to be bad. But again, you're always hungry, right? You have no rights. You can't see. Now there's another funny thing because when I went up there, they say you can't, you cannot lay down. You cannot, you have to just sit on those stools all day long and just at the table as I


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[Assistant] So I can repeat three times, finally, I guess they say like, fuck it, they ain't going to sit. Ain't going to be laid down, so just let me there.


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[Assistant] So, so I had no problems, but then there's one of those criminal guys, cause he would keep coming criminals. He say, fuck, ain't that tough. I'm tougher than him. So I think I can earn my way to.


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[Assistant] So I got pulled out, somebody pulling me by the legs. And you know, get the good kicks and stuff and put out the sound. So uhm, so here it is then.


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[Assistant] Because I was so stupid. I didn't know any better. So then every day for like 15 minutes we were allowed to go outside and walk. There was like a room maybe half size of this. With the high walls with the guards working on the top or above you.


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[Assistant] And uhm, the funny thing is that it was made of these concrete posts with a slit inside. We've seen them in Iraq and this reinforced concrete slab was slide in between the posts. One on the top of another. So I was thinking, take what I remember, I was just for demonstration, I was breaking those in half.


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[Assistant] And uhm, you know, like, I'm looking, watching some of the TVs here about the present in the United States. I was like, fuck, now if, at that time,


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[Assistant] Uh, there was three years prison sentence and they release us, I think close to year and a half or after a year and a half when John Paul II was coming to Poland again. So they tried to make a gesture, so okay, we start releasing political prisoners for, on amnesty. And, uh, you know, that's how I noticed they start releasing us and, uh,


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[Assistant] We were in prison called Hrubiešov. Uhm, I think we can through the window we can see the river and we can see the Russian territory next to it. So it's kind of like unnerving because at that time there was the reality of invasion. I mean we were afraid that the Russians will come in to take


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[Assistant] Put some, uh, uh, order there because I think it was the communism and socialism was falling apart. So they, uh,


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[Assistant] Thinking, uh, at the time in present. So we, uh, so yeaah, so we were in this, uh, that's actually a couple other things came to my mind too. I didn't even think about it.


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[Assistant] So they beat us up. I remember I had some issues with, uh, oh, okay. So we went on the hunger strike.


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[Assistant] There was, uhm, in socialism, I don't know if you guys knew, but in socialism, there are no political prisoners.


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[Assistant] Uh, when they, so they send us to Hrubiešov, they kind of isolate the political prisoners there, from the general criminal population, so it's like pretty much Gulag. And, uh, they, uh, so we decide to go on the hunger strike.


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[Assistant] I didn't know it was that bad, so I said, I'm gonna, I'll fight these guys. So I fight, so they finally, they overpowered me, they hanged at me to the chair.


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[Assistant] See this big pipe and I had to shove it back down your throat in your stomach again and


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[Assistant] Alright, you just broke your hangar's track, you just ate on your own. So, now...


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[Assistant] This is pointless. The socialists, socialists will never admit they hold political prisoners. And you just waste your health in to stop it.


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[Assistant] How long were you on the hunger strike for? I think it was three weeks before the cow came in to stop it because they were going nowhere.


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[Assistant] An entire prison population from the, even the criminals still join in. But they got beat up and shot down very quick and it was, it was, they squashed them, but not with us. So, uh, we kept singing and they were, they were so loud that, that nearby town, they could hear and actually that priest was coming and praying in front of the prison.


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[Assistant] And you can't, because everything is controlled. The government owns everything. They own the jobs. So, if you...


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[Assistant] I still continue my training, so this is what I described earlier after the training coming out from sometimes in the evening, depends wherever we train.


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[Assistant] And hell yeaah, I was like, sure, we need this, this, this. And within, uh, three weeks I had the, uh, I think within three weeks I had a visa out of Poland to Germany, to the United States.


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[Assistant] Funny thing is that I also had to, because I was still in the age that, conscription age, so they, uh,


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[Assistant] So you say, dude, in the event of a police eagle, that motherfucker, you and your Russian buddies stole the crown from that eagle. It's about that eagle doesn't have a crown on his head. So that's your eagle, but it's not mine. I'm not serving out of this motherfucker right there.


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[Assistant] And, uh, but that was really good because, cause like, finally when we came to like a normal world, everything was clean, everything was bright, everything was, uh, nice. People were nice.


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[Assistant] That's, that's the world. I think that's what South America is going to be doing. So, I was really excited just to, to, to, you know, to come to America at the time. What year is it? It's 1984 beginning. I left 1983, like December 1983, and this is like beginning 1984.


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[Assistant] There were some other people with me, uh, there was, uh, there was a group of people, refugees from the communist socialist state, and, uh, but we were going to different locations, so some of them we didn't even know, and once we get on this big jumbo jet, it was like


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[Assistant] I didn't know who these people were or where they went. So I, uh, eventually I land in New York. And I remember I just wanted to see this statue of Liberté. It was like so great, you know.


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[Assistant] But then as I was learning, there's actually, there's not the boxes for food, it's just air conditioning. So this one there keeps your house cool and healthy. And, but I remember, so when I moved into my first apartment, I couldn't contain myself to tell my mom, say, call my mom, say, Mom, I'm living in the apartment.


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[Assistant] I remember this 40 dollars usually by the end of the week.


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[Assistant] Because I had to save money to pay for an apartment, it was like $180, I think, for an apartment, electricity and everything. Uh, I had maybe like, I ran out of money at the end of it, so I just had to wait for my paycheck. As soon as I got the paycheck, more cereal, more food, you know, people were bringing me food too, so uhm, again, I would not survive, you know, the Americans helped me.


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[Assistant] They have, they have so many people and I think I'm, I'm, I feel obligated, I need to do something to maybe reciprocate it now.


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[Assistant] Pac-Man, right? So just look and see, and that addiction that it says, this is N. So I say, hey!


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[Assistant] You know, I didn't know it, but there was never any sinister feelings. It was just curiosity.


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[Assistant] No, no, at the time, uh, I was working already. So for me, they, the church providers like short maybe, I think it was a one month class.


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[Assistant] The first job was in the dealer, was in the church. I was basically


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[Assistant] Uh, as a janitor, and this is where actually I started actually picking up English more. I don't know if I had it back yet.


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[Assistant] Mop in one hand and I have a little cartoon, cartoon in my back pocket. So.


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[Assistant] And Joe is going to the store. Joe is going to the store. It means that he is going to go and buy some groceries. Obviously like in Polish. So I was translating it.


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[Assistant] God damn those numbers, I just kept mixing up so there was guys coming up and like two hours later here.


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[Assistant] So they brought the, the foreman from the poor fairs. He'll, he'll look at me like, and I know there's like, blah, blah, blah.


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[Assistant] But I was able to actually talk him into, look, Jimbo, we call him Jimbo, look Jimbo.


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[Assistant] Then I've, I've, I've talked him into it and he says, so we're sitting in his, uh, kitchen. He'll keep, he keep reading the manuals and there was, I know that was hard for him. I could see it, I could tell it was hard for him, but he did it for me.


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[Assistant] Great guy. Actually, this is the first time that I was exposed to American way, American way of eating too, because, uh, so I remember saying, you know, you need to come over here, uh, we'll have a steaks and I'll just, we'll just have a steaks and say, okay. So I show up and, uh, there's a big, uh,


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[Assistant] I think I had no breakfast. So sometimes she was in a line or ride for a couple hours, but then they sold out bread before she could get it.


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[Assistant] That's the biggest accomplishment I've made. It's not the SEAL teams. I'm very proud of the Trident. I'm very proud what I did in the SEAL teams, but it is not.


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[Assistant] My biggest accomplishment, I always look at this American flag.


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[Assistant] And I'm American. I'm not Polish-American. I am not something American. There is no hyphen in front of this American. I am an American. And I'm proud. And uh, so, yeaah. That's...


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[Assistant] So I say, well, I just call the drops and I say, hey, can I make a parachute jump? I say, sure, come on over. It was in Memphis.


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[Assistant] So I came and said, how can I make the parachute jump? Well, you have to sit through the class, it will be tandem jump. I said tandem jump, okay. So...


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[Assistant] I sit for the class, you know, then he explain me what to explain, what to look, went up, uh, and jump. Fuck, I was hooked. So I said like, can I do it again? It was pretty expensive, but you know.


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[Assistant] So there he is. Well, so you go get a class, most likely like on the weekend, then Monday you come, you do one jump, maybe two jumps. Tuesday, Wednesday, like within two weeks, you get this enough just seven jumps, it was AFF. Accelerated free fall at the time. So you made enough jumps, then you can graduate to jump on your own.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I was skydiving. Actually that's funny because in Memphis we jump from very high altitude, usually 12,000 feet, sometimes from 15,000-16,000 feet. So I had accumulated a lot of free fall at the time. So I decided to go myself for the AFF Jumpmaster course. I said I'll become the jumpmaster. I'll be teaching skydiving.


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[Assistant] You have to do class, you have to be very thorough. If you miss something, the instructors, usually there was the USPA commission people, there's very experienced skydivers, they pick up what you missed in the brief, and they did that errors in the air, which you didn't breathe or you said it the wrong way, you told it the wrong way.


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[Assistant] And, you know, there is a point in the skydiving too, and we teach people eventually, say like, so, there is a, uh, attitude that you have to make your decision. You either cut away the malfunctioning parachute, if you have malfunction, an open reserve, or you ride it to the ground.


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[Assistant] And everything I have, I owe to America, to this country, I need to do something. And the best way I can do it is going to fight for my country.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, that's uh, I'm waiting on the event. Sorry, but this selective service doesn't apply to you, you are too old. So I was already 31 at the time, going 32.


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[Assistant] I will, when the war is over, I will go back to my normal life. But I think just for the duration of the war, I would like to join the military.


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[Assistant] So we start talking about it and we jump a few times together and say like, they're such cool guys, you know? And, uh, so they, uh, yeaah. But you know, before they joined the...


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[Assistant] Didn't become, there was no intention to make me a CEO. But you know, for any time I didn't really care. I just wanted to join military. I want to contribute to the effort. I am American. I want to fight for my country. So, whether being the parachute rigger or whatever, I just made the best out of it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there is a, there is like a day that actually there are different jobs, there's people that are coming and telling about their jobs. So there are CLCOD motivators show up and he talk about, I just couldn't sit in this fucking chair, just, get out, just,


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[Assistant] I guess I got beat up a lot. I just got conditioned by that. Did you, did you work, were you working out this whole time? Not really. I didn't know how, I didn't know that the physical, uh, demands of the SEAL teams at the time. I was just like. What about just in life though?


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[Assistant] Freaking painful. I mean, I never have, I wasn't, I was never beat up so hard. It was so painful like this, but that was so painful that I remember they gave me that medicine. I think it was Demorol. It didn't work at all. I said I need something stronger because


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[Assistant] I want to fight the war in any capacity. You know, I'm, I'm honored that I have the privilege to go and fight for America. So, for me it doesn't really matter. So I say yeaah, that's okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think you can. Just go get your medical record from your, uh, uh, from your medical office. Bring it here. We'll take a look at it.


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[Assistant] And he's like, that's right, right there, right there. And it's like, I want you to leave the room here. I'll be, I'll just call you in a second. And I could hear rip. So he calls you back. So the kidney stone, uh, where is that? I was like, right, oh, so he looks, he likes, I don't see any. I said, I don't see any either.


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[Assistant] He may survive, but over and over and over it just wears your body, wears you down, and eventually some people quit.


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[Assistant] I get to CL Team 2 and uh, actually they, they, uh, I wanted to go to CL Team 4 because I don't want to be called. I know CL Team 2 at the time operate the north part of the Europe and Europe in general. So I say I just want to go to like Team 4 but friend of mine says like no, no, no dude.


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[Assistant] I was not maybe the technical person at the time. And the challenge is to be a SDV operator is twice as, it is as twice. You say to be a seal, but you have to have the expertise with this mini subs and with the operation of it.


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[Assistant] Did you go to Fort Benning? Yes. For me it was kind of a fun time because


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[Assistant] Yeah, it scared the shit out of me. So I just, I tried one time and just popped my shoulder and I'm like, fuck, I can't do any more. So every time I jumped, I just stood up. I just had, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, you need to come and join us for the, for the, so I remember I was so taken, I was like, this is old guys, this old Navy SEALs.


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[Assistant] They're so cool, you know, take these new guys, they invite for the beer and stuff, and, well, I didn't know there were, they're just for the amusement of these all new guys. Not sooner than we just cross the door of this bay, we just get beat up.


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[Assistant] It is straightforward, but with me, there was actually, there was me and another guy, Scotty Lenton. Great guy, I love this guy. Uhm, he'll have the teams, uh, later, but, uh.


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[Assistant] So, it was okay, so when eventually we came to the crypto and the radio communication equipment, the communication class.


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[Assistant] And went to crypto and we were sitting there by the time we were about to take a test from this. I was thinking like two more days. So today was the last class. You know, how to use the cryptographic equipment, how to use, all that stuff.


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[Assistant] And uhm, so the next day is supposed to be, I think, a final exam, and then there's, there's like, then move to the next section of STT.


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[Assistant] So this guy comes in and one of the instructors comes in and is like, hey, uh, do you have a clearance?


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[Assistant] I don't know what it is. So most likely you don't have it. Do you have it, Clemens? And Scott's like, well, I'm not even a US citizen.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, we just see that, so next day we see our guys watching running through the field, you know, with the equipment, setting it up, you know, doing the crypto stuff.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and so, you know, eventually got my clearance. So I went to the Radio Shack upstairs in the SEAL Team 2 and passed the test. Scotty Linton eventually got his citizenship. So we all went, our platoon went up there because he was in the platoon by this time. And he got his crypto stuff too. And, uh, we moved on.


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[Assistant] So my first platoon, I remember my chief basler, good god, I think if this guy didn't have a heart attack yet, I think he might, he will have it because of me, because you know, my english skills.


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[Assistant] So it was, uh, not really that good. So it reflected on everything. I mean, you know, whatever you do, you know, you have to communicate, you have to communicate fast and very effectively. And I just was lacking that English skills at the time.


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[Assistant] You know, this actually brings to my mind too, in SEAL teams you do, every day you do something that can kill you. I didn't think about it, but it does. I remember flying over the Adriatic Sea where we're actually on the lookout for this, for this pilot.


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[Assistant] Yes, we went to, that was the main, another platoon. We went to Bosnia, to Yugoslavia, we spent time. That was pretty good time, actually we like it, we just get


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's, I remember for me, I wanted to say, I need to join this 220 pounds. So I'm working so hard. And I'm just like a half a pound below, half a pound below, like 2.19, 2.18, I say,


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. That was good work. That was a really good platoon. Good deployment too. I mean, I really enjoyed it. This time we went to Spain. We hijacked the Russian tanker too. That was, that was, you know, now when I look in the back at it after my experience in combat, I'm sure you too,


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[Assistant] You're bobbing on this boat. But I remember, so when we took it down, we came back and the next shift came back the next day, the other squad.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no shit. But you remember we were living like our doors were opening right on the beach. So we just opened the door, just walk on the sidewalks like, I'm on the beach right there. That was awesome. I mean that, that was awesome deployment. I really like that. And uh, then the Bahrain, then uh,


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[Assistant] That was really, really good time and I have very fond memories of it. It's almost like very nostalgic to me right now.


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[Assistant] I was team four. You were in team four. Okay, got it. So out of all these, uh, uh, upheavals and all that stuff eventually, I ended up in one of the patterns that, uh, we're the, uh, we deployed to South America. We're in Puerto Rico and we're like three months into deployment.


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[Assistant] I was actually watching it as it happens, and I remember I was working out, I was in the gym, and I see the airplane hit the tower, so I was like, what a fucking idiot, some just flew into the thing.


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[Assistant] But then I'm, as, as, as, as the, you know, the news progress and they say like, there was a, not, there was a jetliner, it was not the small airplane. I just put my attention, I say, that's, that's something, there's something wrong here. And then the second plane hit the tower.


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[Assistant] I remember, and uhm, I still have a hard time thinking about it. It just brings me all these memories. And, and the, the, I was watching the towers collapse. So it just brings tears to my eyes. I can, uh, I can't think about it. I just, at that time I just wanna go and kill the savages. So.


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[Assistant] Yes, and I tell you, make jealous everybody in the platoons. How the fuck Drago got this? You know, sales, we are aggressive. There is a war, we want to be in the war. And yeaah.


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[Assistant] So, I was like, fucking hey, this is just incredible, I am so damn lucky. I can pass it like, chief, I can pack my shit right now, I can, no, no, no, no, no, just go pack your shit, just take your things, stuff, orders here, blah, blah, blah.


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[Assistant] I think a week or a few days. Because you know, I had to pack my stuff, I still had to process my orders. And uh, yeaah, I packed my stuff, I flew civilian aircraft to, it was funny because I have all the guns and everything and I'm flying civilian aircraft to the Middle East and eventually uhm,


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[Assistant] London in Baghdad, yeaah, it was 2003. Oh wow, the heat was incredible, right? When I unpacked my stuff, I just stood up, I was like, that, that


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[Assistant] Wind blue. I was like, fuck, what is that aircraft here? I thought I'm like in the jet blast of, uh, some, uh, you know.


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[Assistant] So they were like, you know, well, we don't know these guys, really. We know they're good, but you know, we don't train with them. We didn't train with them that much, so.


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[Assistant] My NVGs broke, and I said, like, guys, I need some help, can you guys lend me your NVGs? They said, well, yeaah, we can, you know, as a platoon, when we deploy, our gear is limited, and we have something that can support the platoon, us, but not to lend some other guys.


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[Assistant] So, you know, it went for a while when I was trying to call my team and say, hey guys, so finally I get to call my team and say I need NVGs.


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[Assistant] In Baghdad. So this guy is like, listen to it. It's like, what? I say, can you send me any VGs to Baghdad? Who is this? I said Drago. So you want me to send equipment?


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[Assistant] Dude, you need to come back here because, you know, CL team such and such, I don't want to bring the numbers here, is about to deploy and we are next. You need to come back.


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[Assistant] And, uh, haha, funny story. So then the next team is coming out, so I say, hey guys, I can go. At that time, you get addicted to that stuff. I mean, you just, you can't live in normal society. You're just like, dude, I just left there. I don't like this place here. So, to, to live like this. I want to be there. And, uh,


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[Assistant] That's our guy. You know, it's hard to tell who is who because we're working so well together. Uhm, yeaah, but you know, talking about this English thing, translation and stuff, I am also, I think the


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[Assistant] Besides being breacher and breaching in Iraq, known for my English skills actually, uhm, for my, uhm, actually I'm going to patent it. I'm thinking about patenting it. I became known for being the fastest English language


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[Assistant] Especially there, you know, we have all the same ROEs.


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[Assistant] I remember, uh, I was talking to my girlfriend at the time and say, hey, uhm, I need to go, I need to go home, I'm tired now.


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[Assistant] I remember at the end of deployment, the first deployment, I started having problems reading, I couldn't read.


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[Assistant] I remember trying to read the sentence and my eyes were jumping so I had to read it over and over and then when I finished reading it I don't remember what I started the sentence with. So it took me sometimes 5-6 minutes to get through a paragraph.


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[Assistant] And I think this is because of the concussions. I mean, we are exposed to these, uh, to this stuff. And I did, it was a couple times that I


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[Assistant] You know, like we, we suppose we are going explosive breach through the door. Then we look at the intel pictures and there was like, okay, okay, so this is how we plan, you know, we, we, we prepare all the briefs.


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[Assistant] This is where we hide. This is where the assault element is going to be. This is a breach. This is where we're going to go blow the door. This is how we go. Well, some of those pictures were not very accurate and I remember around the situation that


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[Assistant] Uh, buildings or these, uh, hideouts where fence over there, the fences and stuff. So once we climb inside, there's really no place to hide. And I had to blow my, that shit, put the mud on myself. I was like, oh fuck, I can't hide. I'm not going to make a ruckus running for looking for some place to hide. So I just took a knee, put the gun in front of my face and fucking blow this shit out.


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[Assistant] So basically they kicked me out of the way. The kick was so strong that it almost broke my ribs. But you know, as normal, that's something that you accept because that's...


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[Assistant] Yes, uh, we were, but as, as you know, we're not aware so acutely of the issue than as we know now what it does to you. And you, you're right, you learn, you get, you get, uh, shirk, shirk, shirk, shake.


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[Assistant] But then you just go in, you move on, you are out of pilot basically. You know what to do, you train for years to do it. So this is what I liked, I was so effective, I enjoyed the skills I could apply as an AVC also. That was, uh,


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[Assistant] And you know what, another thing to going with your platinum, I think this is for some reason, I talked to other guys, we feel fucking safe, it's like, dude,


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[Assistant] Shit is not going to happen to us. Nothing is going to happen to us.


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[Assistant] I remember I landed in the Norfolk and the guy said like, okay, hey, go ahead and, uh, want me to help you something. I had all my gear and all the stuff from Puerto Rico yet because I just came back from, I went to, from, basically from Puerto Rico to Iraq.


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[Assistant] So I had to get my old gear. So I stuck my gear in the curb. It was, uh, it was cold. And I was so tired, I remember.


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[Assistant] Getting dark, I'm freezing my ass off, I say, what the fuck? I don't know, for a second, where am I? I say, I'm in Norfolk, what, what's motherfuckers didn't show up?


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[Assistant] So I was like, hey, let's try to knock on the door. Hey, hey, uh, I need a phone. So, uh,


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[Assistant] Somebody was supposed to pick me up today a few hours ago and I'm still in the parking lot. And you are who? I say I'm Drago. Where are you coming from?


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[Assistant] So you say, they call OD, and uh, say, hey, this is Drago, I'm just came here for a few hours ago, he's a guy supposed to pick me up, he said, I don't have to pick anybody up today, he just look, oh.


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[Assistant] Hey Drago, we are so sorry, I'll just send the truck right now. So we are on the way. So yeaah, they sent the guy, the tech came in and uhm.


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[Assistant] And something just, take me, uh, something came to my mind, I fucking, I haven't, uh, by this time the girlfriend left me, she just said like, you are done, she called me on Christmas, say that she needs to move on and I'm, she don't have time for this shit. So, uh, so I'm like, she had my car and my stuff, but I had, so I have no car, the car is parked somewhere in her place, my, my, my clothes are there, everything I had was


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[Assistant] The guy walk out, we walk out outside, he shuts the door and I say, hey, what's the code? I need to get inside.


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[Assistant] So I tried to remember the code, uh, I don't remember, I can't remember it. So we had those little punching things. Because they stopped the quarter, like, do this some time ago.


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[Assistant] So I can remember it as like fuck, but I am so hungry now. I just need to do something. I just need to grab something to eat. So I had no money, but I pulled my credit card, not credit card, but I have a credit card, but my ATM card, it's like maybe $15.


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[Assistant] So, uh, I was like, fuck, I just need to do something. So I got the ten dollars out of it. So what can I just say? I hope. So I drove to, in Virginia Beach, to I hope. Uh, that's by the, I think that was the, at that time, Borders bookstore.


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[Assistant] I mean you are sleeping here, I'm watching you for like 5 hours or so, and this is like, I think 2 o'clock in the morning.


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[Assistant] I mean, what's the problem? I said like, I'm looking at him, I'm still trying to get that, uh, my wits together.


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[Assistant] Say, no, no, no, you're fine, just go relax and, uh, you know, just don't cause any problems. Sorry, no, no problem. So in the morning I woke up, I've slept in the, I hope so, I woke up and, uh, went to group two, got some phone calls and most of the guys were, I think, team four at that time, they were doing something because they were ready to deploy, we were ready to deploy again. So, uh, eventually I got hold of somebody and, uh,


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[Assistant] My first comeback was not only that, but then I find out that my checks start bouncing. I look at the bank and I see no money at all. I say, what the fuck?


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[Assistant] So I go to them and I say Drago, you didn't fill your travel claims. So travel claims? I was in Iraq, we told them that's possible.


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[Assistant] I was not moving anywhere. I was there for like eight months, nine months and you were told not to worry about the travel claims. Well, we just garnished your money so you aren't getting any paycheck. You're just getting maybe like three, whatever the proportion was that they allowed to leave.


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[Assistant] So I say, dude, I'm so fucking sick and pissed about it. And I tell you this, I'm just going to make me a sign. Iraqi veteran, I work for food and I'm going in front of that fucking gate up there and start to get some money because I need to eat.


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[Assistant] And you know, just work my way, work my way out of this, ehm, pay my son, pay those travel claims, you know, fill the travel claims, they did return some of the money, and uhm,


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[Assistant] It was all good, you know. That's, uh, uhm, that's, then I deploy again and again, and, uh, that, this, with the eyes, first I was, I was coming with all kinds of theories, like maybe my eyes are bad, maybe the tent is dark, so I use the flashlight, I use this, and I can't fucking read. So, uh, it just,


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[Assistant] That's kind of a relief too when I, I'm just looking around and I see these people eating or walking around and say, I say that's, that's, that's the normal life, but I was, I forgot about it almost because it was, it was so immersed into that combat, into that, uh,


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[Assistant] The time that, that, again, this became like a dream, then you come back and it's like, well that's actually real, you know, that's, uh, but also big relief. I never realized that, that, that,


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[Assistant] We don't think about it, never bother me. But then when I came back, I was like,


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[Assistant] I think they will always stay with us, uh, forever. I don't know, it's kind of like the survival, survival guilt. That's what they call it. Why him, not me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, this is why I'm trying to cherish the memories of the guys that I knew they are not here anymore. Because, you know, it fades.


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[Assistant] I think, uh, they are alive and they still live in our minds. So what we can do for them is just remember them because if we forget who we remember.


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[Assistant] So, they, they're still alive. They are alive in our minds, that we see them, we remember them, and we need to cherish this. So, it is so important to...


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[Assistant] Write the books about these guys who are not here anymore. Because who write? They can't write their own book.


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[Assistant] They might not seem like a lot, but they are, you wake up and you know, the pain doesn't go away, you just live to learn with it. As a parent, as a spouse.


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[Assistant] But what you can do is just write little things that you remember. As you wake up, it's like, yeah, I remember he was doing this and that when he was a little kid.


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[Assistant] Write this down. Because those memoirs are fleeting. You might not remember it ten years down the road. But eventually, if you keep doing this, you will write a full picture, the image of your child, of your spouse, who is no longer with us, but it helps all of us remember it.


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[Assistant] Hopefully people are doing it because, you know, that eventually become a book. And maybe you want to share, the parent or the spouse want to share with us.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah. And then when I came back, I realized that, you know, I'm 45, I haven't, at that time my girlfriend dumped me because my career was not really good, I wasn't making enough money, she actually said in the email that


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[Assistant] Uh, that really not, there's not the place she wants to be in. So I say fuck, I mean I'm, I'm like getting 45, I'm getting old guy, and I don't have a, don't know even girls, you know, I don't know, I don't have anybody.


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[Assistant] Let me see if I can wink to her, but I just need to tweak my age a little bit because she's so young, so she's like maybe thir- she's 13 years younger, so I just tweak my age a little bit. So I wink to her just to write something.


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[Assistant] She got a look at it, and she went back, she wrote back, and she wrote so nicely. So I say, fuck, if I write to her, she just...


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[Assistant] So, so what's going on? We had guys writing the love letters to my present wife, but


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah. Me love you very much. And, uh, so that wouldn't go well. And, uh, so the guys kept doing it, and so I'm looking at this, I'm reading her letters, and this is so fucking awesome. She writes so well, she's so polished, she's, uh, so educated.


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[Assistant] And then I find out, you know, she's Air Force Academy graduate, uh, so I was like, damn,


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[Assistant] No, just, she was, she's very proper. She was like, I'm, I'm going to talk to you, I don't know you even, I don't want to give you my phone number or anything.


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[Assistant] So uhm, but I finally got her to call me. And I say, look, this is me, this is blah, blah. So I told her about myself, and she's like, quiet for a second, say, oh.


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[Assistant] Uh, so first, uh, they say, okay, we'll try to help you Drago, but the letter from command came in, well, for that position, we need somebody who is really polished and who speaks English very well, and Drago is neither one. I, I, I've seen this email, it was shown to me. So I say, fuck.


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[Assistant] It brought me back to reality, you know. It's not about just killing people and beating them up. It is more also about the living in society, being a productive member of society.


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[Assistant] So uhm, so that, there was a good transition period for me that I could actually relax and join the society back again and, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, not be a villain, but be a good person, and uh, and yeaah, I got domesticated now, so I'm the nice, uh, nice Drago, and uh,


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[Assistant] It's like, I was told I need to do this, I need to do this, I need to do that.


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[Assistant] I need to do something. So, say no, no, no, no. You do have experience. You say you did a lot.


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[Assistant] Anytime I posted on Facebook something about socialism, they banned me. They would just basically stop my account. People were calling me names and I couldn't even respond to it because Facebook was blocking it.


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[Assistant] So I say, fuck these guys. Fucking communists. I'm going to go ahead and create my own Facebook.


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[Assistant] Everybody's welcome. It's not the, the, the, the right, left side. It's just, you know, if you have, if you like to say something and not to be worried about being banned or ostracized by, uh, Zuk and Fokker, whatever his name is, or this other twerp from Twitter come to Connect Zink and you are welcome to.


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[Assistant] They all have one thing in common, it's intimidation, violence, poverty, having a villain.


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[Assistant] Stalin, Joseph Stalin had the kulaks, those wealthy peasants, they were villains, they were always vilified. Adolf Hitler had Jewish people, he vilified the entire group.


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[Assistant] And Pelosi seems to me like a veteran in the middle class. So the villain is a very important element of socialism. But also political prisoners and political murderers.


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[Assistant] We had IRS, uh, uh, you remember, I'm sure you remember that, attacking and vilifying the, the opponents.


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[Assistant] And you know, we have here General Flynn. I mean, what happened to him? You always find something.


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[Assistant] Uh, the things that are happening right now are very disturbing to me. They're too much like that socialism that I experience. And I, just like I said earlier, if people only took time,


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[Assistant] To ask refugees from the former socialist countries in Eastern Europe.


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[Assistant] And stood against evil. He wouldn't have any Democrats left in the office. Tell you that. It is so, it is so bad. I mean, uhm, I'm really concerned.


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[Assistant] It's a warning. It is a warning. You better hear it before it's too late. If not too late already, because uhm, yeaah, that's uh, we already have, we already had socialist elections and seems like the rules are being implemented. I was, when I was talking to people about it in 2008,


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[Assistant] And, uh, this is to help our guys, because there's a lot of team guys that leave the teams before their time, uh, before their retirement. And they have pretty much no, have no support or very little support. Uhm, so,


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[Assistant] And I've seen so many guys going with broken lives because they missed the payment here, they missed the payment there, the, the, the, the, the, the work, they lost the job.


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[Assistant] Just, no, nobody gets paid. So if you can look at our website, there's a bunch of team guys with the same attitude, with the same ideals that we, we need to help each other. And again, they don't want to get paid.


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[Assistant] They don't want the money. It is not about the money. This is something that we can give back to those less fortunate. Because there's a big problem.


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[Assistant] The guy comes back after six months with tons of money, he's trying to find a job, six months later he has no job, and has no money. What do you do? Well, fuck it, I'm tired. They're tired, they, they, they, they just...


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[Assistant] I have to do odd to it something too, because this is what sometimes get odd and misunderstand, even within our community, within our guys. So, you know, when I used to fight, when I was, the way I grew up is, you fight until you destroy the guy, the fight is over, not when the guy tells you, okay, wait, wait.


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[Assistant] So that way, whatever he rolls in, once you leave, he's not going to suffocate on his own tongue.


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[Assistant] Is it real? Yeah, it is real because then you can leave and safely guy in the, in that position and when he wakes up, he just feel that he has a safety pin in his, and pin his tongue from his lip and go home.


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[Assistant] Uh, but you know, I remember too, I'm so glad that you mentioned about this because when you show up in the platoon, I remember you just came and I said, guys, I'm going to check out the entire platoon in five minutes. Okay.


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[Assistant] So, you started it, and as it progressed, like within 30 seconds, people are tapping out or pass out.


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[Assistant] That's actually scaring me a little bit because I didn't know it. Uhm, we're wrestling, you are over watching us and then that's, so I'm like, I'm doing pretty good, you know, but he's not tapping out, so I'm just wrapping him up. And then I see you and other team guy, other, other guys from the platoon just pry me out of scar. It's like, yeah, stop, stop, stop.


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[Assistant] I say, stop for a fucking while. I say, he's tapping out. I say, no he's not. He's tapping out. No he's not. And then he say, wait, uh, do you hear, did you hear this?


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[Assistant] I'll look at the birds time and maybe hopefully that will help me get through, but also the attitude. I was never like, I remember we see it before the Halloween, or during the Halloween, I say, so why you are here? Why would you come to birds and stuff? Well, I want to try to be a best seal, the best guy. I tried to be a seal. I tried this, I tried that.


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[Assistant] So they came to me, I said, I'm not fucking trying anything, I'm here to be a SEAL. I just, I will be a SEAL unless I get injured or kick me out. So, uh, I'm not trying, I'm just...


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[Assistant] For many reasons, one is that the taste of it, because uhm, I was telling you earlier about those candies in Poland, the specific taste of candies that were so rare that you can actually trade this candy between the kids, and uhm, there was like a caramel white candy within the


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[Assistant] Yes, I read both. I read in Polish and English. It's very accurate. I think it gives you the perspective from the other guys who are not part of the SEALs, but they are really good.


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[Assistant] And how they perceive SEAL teams, how they see us, what we do in Ragn, how they work. So it's pretty good insight and the perspective on SEALs from the different vantage point.


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[Assistant] So what's this called? This is, uh, the title of the translation is my 13 years in the, uh, Grom. Okay. So this is the, it is not my 13 years. This is this guy. Does that say 13 right there? Yes, 13. That's exactly, that's 13 in Polish. So it's 13, uh, my 13 years in the Grom. So that's what he said.


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[Assistant] So this guy was with us too. Actually heim and the naval, naval, they were together in, in, in, I think the same time there. So, this is, uh, he wrote this book much earlier and same thing. It just, his view on the Iraq war, on the, our working together with SEALs and that, how this thing, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, I think it's very interesting, especially if you want to look about us, about cells and how others perceive us, other forces.


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[Assistant] It is also available in Amazon, it is also, I will send you the links, it is also available in English on Amazon.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean, there was a picture taken when we were there.


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[Assistant] Actually, one of them, I think, will be traveling here too. So, uh. That's all we need to know. It would just be awesome if, actually, he could travel and tell his perspective on Iraq war, why Poland got involved in it, and why Poland was standing by our side, uh, in that war, and why is Poland standing by our side. So, it would be good to hear from him.


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[Assistant] I say maybe make a small prayer in our mind for those guys who are no longer with us.


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[Assistant] There's me who's supposed to say thank you to you, to you, to every American for my freedom. What I did in the teams, in the Navy, is just a token for, for, for, you cannot repay freedom. Freedom is not for sale. It's, it's not, there is nothing you can do to reciprocate that freedom that


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[Assistant] That, that we, that I got from America. I'm free man and that's awesome feeling. It's, it's something that I will never be able to repay. And, uh, I just, I believe that just keep serving in any capacity I can.


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[Assistant] To our great America is important. So I'm not done yet. I finished my military career, but I'm still serving. I'm still want to make America a better and safer place.


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[Assistant] Uh, dad, born in, uh, born in Samoa, uhm, my grandfather was in the Air Force. And so he was born there, but he spent the first years of his life in Hawaii. My grandfather was stationed at Hickam. And then, uhm,


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[Assistant] Both, both of my grandfathers on my mom's side and my dad's side served, uh, served in the military.


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[Assistant] It was, yeaah. Uhm, so my mom's dad served in, I believe he served in Europe, I don't know exactly where. And then, but for a shorter stint, he didn't spend a career in the military, but my dad's dad did spend his career in the military.


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[Assistant] At different times served, I think he was in the Army for a little while, then he was in the Army Air Corps, then he ended up in the Air Force. And uhm, so they both had completely different upbringings. Uh, you know, my mom grew up in East Grand Rapids, Michigan, which was