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[Assistant] Before that, I, uh, no. After that, I, uh, I go to school for the, uh, accounting class. And after one year, I got the, uh,


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[Assistant] I worked for almost three years and then they ran out of, uh, budgets. And, uh, I was laid off and, uh, I didn't provide for six months. And I got another job in the IRS.


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[Assistant] But at first I, I was, it was really boring. I, I tried to look for the, uh, part-time job, but I couldn't.


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[Assistant] I don't care what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what was anything.


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[Assistant] Or my friend, he told me that they couldn't believe that I was still alive until today.


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[Assistant] Uuuh, I think this is... That's enough.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so you hear people, what, talking in the background about stuff.


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[Assistant] So when you say your wiretap is part of the list of stuff that you guys have, what is it, like a little apparatus or something?


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[Assistant] Appropriate, at the appropriate level to our world.


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[Assistant] Our bodies. Degeneration. Regeneration. As you said. Wise man. Jocko.


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[Assistant] Wise man, I'm saying it. Okay, there you go, boom. Uh, the, the beatings are the darkness, the gains are the light. So.


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[Assistant] Jocko Fuel. This will help you. These things will help you. Jocko Fuel, we got stuff for your joints, stuff for your muscles, stuff for your brain, stuff for your immunity, all this stuff.


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[Assistant] Anyway, joint warfare and krill oil, these are for your joints, there's antioxidants in there, too, by the way. Also, discipline, multi, multiple forms, deployment methods.


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[Assistant] It was nice. It was so good. Yeah, so you got the Arnold Palmer Jocko Palmer. You got the Arnold Palmer feel with the Jocko Palmer.


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[Assistant] That's kinda why I kinda said it, cause I might've came off like a corrector and I might come off like a little bit of a corrector right now. But, technically you have a picture, hot, summertime, California heatwave weekend, that's kinda what it was. You want a glass picture? No, not a glass.


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[Assistant] Protein levels. Yeaah. All day. So yeaah, get that one. Now, uh, your kid's gonna like it too! Whether it's that one or the Warrior Kid Monk, which there is. The kid's gonna like both of those. I know from experience kids like this, this stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's true. And they have some shorts that for whatever reason, I don't know why they don't talk about the shorts cause it's literally, aside from board shorts, like when I swim and workout or whatever, these are the only shorts I wear. The shark fin. You like the shark fin.


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[Assistant] Well, either way, to me, shark fin sounds cool. Straight up. Sounds like hell yea, shark fin shirts. Shorts. Yea. Anyway, very good. Good stuff, originmate.com, all made in America. Speaking of shorts. Speaking of shorts, we, speaking of board shorts, we have board shorts. Defcor, to the core. Discipline equals freedom.


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[Assistant] And jocostore.com, if you didn't know, it is the store. It's the store where you can get stuff while, you know, while you want to, if you want to represent on the path is where you can get your shirts, you just link with Freedom Shirts.


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[Assistant] Either way, camouflage, digital, you know that one. Anyway, go to jockelstore.com. Like I said, whatever shorts you want. The camouflage one or the regular straight up black one. Whichever one you want. Boom. Available. Also some girl stuff on there. Some, uh, some tank tops.


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[Assistant] Look at the hoodies, hats, all this stuff. Uh, if you'd like something, hey man, get something.


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[Assistant] Uh, we sell it on JockoStore. There's Warrior Kid soap, there's Jocko soap, there's Trooper soap, and there's Killer soap.


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[Assistant] All good, legitimate soaps. But, for the month of September,


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[Assistant] Uh, Irish Oaks Ranch will be donating one dollar per bar of soap to the CureSearch Foundation. It's called CureSearch, it's a cancer research center. See what I'm saying? So yea, cause cancer, uh, Awareness Month, September. So we're donating one dollar per bar of soap sold. That's Young Aiden. That's Young Aiden up there.


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[Assistant] Also Psychologic Warfare. It's an, it's an album with tracks, Jocko tracks, helping you through moments of weakness, as they may arise, maybe not every day, but they arise sometimes.


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[Assistant] I have a code name for radio contact. They put me name cowboy. And then a lot of guys going. I still survival. So my man, American man call me cowboy from them.


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[Assistant] Like for a friend they say, hey cowboy, at all the time. Even my, uh, commanding officer, Bill Sheldon, uh, Major Snail.


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[Assistant] When we get information, every single morning, call me Cowboy. So everybody will know who, who I was.


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[Assistant] I was born from North Vietnam. The Ninh Binh provide. And then, uh, I was very young. I don't know anything.


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[Assistant] In 1954, my family moved to the South in order the communists took over North Vietnam.


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[Assistant] We immigrate to the South and we live in Saigon. For two years, my family moved up to Dallas City.


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[Assistant] You know, Dalat is, uh, high central. It's a very nice city. Beautiful. Beautiful and, uh, the weather is like the, just normal.


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[Assistant] I understand after that that the communists want to kill everybody. And they want to collect, you know, property from their citizens to build, you know, like the communist party. And that's why my fam- my family moved from north to the south.


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[Assistant] I still, now I still don't understand what he did. He only the business man.


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[Assistant] The gun in there, but I don't know who, who he was. Okay. And, uh, sometimes he be the taxi driver. Okay. And motorcycle driver to take care of the people. But I understand, now I understand, like he's spy.


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[Assistant] Now he work under, under cover, anywhere, anytime.


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[Assistant] He assassinated him. Before Kennedy. Before Kennedy, yes. And I, I, I strong believe that he worked with him.


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[Assistant] After revolution, revolution from the, uh, from the, uh, Vietnamese army, they put my father in jail.


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[Assistant] Because he worked for the old government. He worked for the president, Jim. That time I was like the, uh,


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[Assistant] 12 years old or 13 years old. I still don't understand it.


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[Assistant] But, when I visited him, the time he was in jail, I learned something.


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[Assistant] I learned something about him. And...


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[Assistant] I'm thinking about, you know, what I'm trying to do to pay back the people, you know, did to my father.


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[Assistant] He in jail. But he very smart man.


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[Assistant] He told me, American gonna go to Vietnam.


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[Assistant] And then when he in jail, he say, hey, I better learn English because he understand American gonna come to Vietnam and study, I, I'm study English other time.


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[Assistant] Lucky for me, it, uh, my family very close to, uh, you know, they use it. That mean, Vietnamese American Association. So I study from them.


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[Assistant] And my family, you know, the economic is going down a lot. So I try to survive by myself and for my family.


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[Assistant] And I'm very lucky when I study English, my teacher is American.


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[Assistant] He understands my situation and my family. And he advised me to join the army.


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[Assistant] Just a teacher. Just a teacher. But I thought in my mind he was, you know.


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[Assistant] He gotta go, you know, to pick up the who's the bad guy or who's the good guy.


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[Assistant] Because in the class, he had, he always, all the time ask, where, where your family? What a, uh, what, what happened, you know, or a situation in my family? I put the money.


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[Assistant] The student to become, you know, the uh, the employee for the US government. That's what I talk right now.


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[Assistant] Or like your people, and good man, or do something, or smart man.


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[Assistant] He said, you wanna be John F. Kennedy? I said, why not? And not only one time he asked me, he asked me a lot.


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[Assistant] He know something going on to my family and he can read what I gotta do.


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[Assistant] He say, just joined the army, but I said, I don't know anything about it. That's what he told.


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[Assistant] And he go, my friend, another friend say, take him to the, uh, join with the, uh, special force. I said, what the hell is special force? The people crazy?


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[Assistant] Because the Vietnam War, we understand situation like, you know, now the Marines or you know, Coast Guard, you know, like Infantry, you like Airborne, so you know who's the one, which one the hero.


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[Assistant] And I don't know anything about it. See, try it, try it.


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[Assistant] And they written letter to Saigon, to, uh, pastor, to, uh, to sock, hip water. Yeah, hip water. On Pastor Street in Saigon.


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[Assistant] And I say, yeaah, I, I, I go. So how?


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[Assistant] Little at the time, you know, he from this one, he swim to another Iceland. I love it.


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[Assistant] I don't pay attention to anything. I just want to join, enjoy, do it, whatever they need to me to do it. And he's, you know, the, my man, actually, you know, my, on behalf of my father, you know, most of Noon,


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[Assistant] Like a thorn, eye, cow, everybody in my village, it means the county.


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[Assistant] I go with the Rose Island team. I go with the Mississippi team.


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[Assistant] In Alaska, I go anywhere, because they say hey.


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[Assistant] He say, hey cowboy, tomorrow I gotta go. You gotta go with me. I said yes, I do.


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[Assistant] And then I quit my vacation. I go with the team. So to training each other, to learning from each other. I'm not saying, you know, I'm a good man, but my experience.


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[Assistant] When I was young, I'm in the jungle with my family. We work farmer. So I'm, you know, strong, skinny, but strong.


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[Assistant] Sometimes, sometimes, you know, I'm, I'm taught, we gotta do it, we gotta do it. You can see it in my hand here.


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[Assistant] Scar. I can cut the bullet.


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[Assistant] Alright, not big like him. When I saw him, the first I saw him.


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[Assistant] But, you know, when we there, we very skinny and a small one. Like a hundred, 120 pounds or a hundred and a half pounds, you know.


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[Assistant] The city slicker. I can, I can, I'm not honest to tell you. We can smell fishy. This smell. Because when we go land down the jungle.


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[Assistant] They gotta flower, right? They gotta plant the rice or they gotta plant whole kind of thing in the jungle. We know, we can imagine, say, uh, what they gotta do with the, uh, they leave it and wear their postcards.


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[Assistant] Where the hospital, and we, we can smell it. And then my sixth son can stand


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[Assistant] That's because we're local, local, local people there. And, uh, we can smell different, like the bird, or chicken.


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[Assistant] Quack, quack, quack. We can comparison right away. Inside the jungle, if you see it quiet.


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[Assistant] That means nobody move. Right. That's a problem. That's a problem. The trouble is close. We understand. Exactly right. I always say, hey, keep your fucking hat down. I'm sorry. But that's the truth.


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[Assistant] Long time, even now. When they send you there, you're free to do.


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[Assistant] It means not in the law, not in the morning, wake up 6 o'clock, whatever they need it, to train it, they can call you. 1 or 2 a.m. or 1 or 2 p.m. And they let you free. It means, uh,


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[Assistant] Tomorrow we gotta go arranging. Arrange many times. And then, what do you think when you got young, the first time you had a gun?


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[Assistant] We got like a 10, you know, box of the bullet. Right. We go there, we shoot it free.


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[Assistant] How to work the weapon, how to work the weapon, and then next day we gotta go range to fire. How to clean the weapon.


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[Assistant] Okay, the first thing when I enjoy that, only carbine. Okay. And then later carbine M1 and M2.


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[Assistant] And then after that, they changed to, uh, Sweet and K. Oh, the Swedish K. Right. Sweet and K and then Stan. Oh, the Stan. Stan gonna have both. Stan, the silent, you know. Yeah, the magazine out the side. Yes. Okay.


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[Assistant] And later on, we moved to the full buy. We used the M16.


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[Assistant] A R 15. And then a car 15. And then M 16. Right. And a car 15. Cause they are hard to come by. But we, we training every weapon.


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[Assistant] John Allen. John Allen first.


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[Assistant] Davis, Davis, Sean Allen, and then, uh, Kim Sharp, and then F.O.B. won't close. F.O.B. won't close. Yeah, later. We, we gotta go F.O.B. No, Danang.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's right, I forgot, I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, HFO. We work, you know, like at a play tune or a company.


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[Assistant] To go with update team got a contact to the enemy.


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[Assistant] And the people from the, uh, from the Recon go down to the Hatchifork looking who's the bad, who's the good. And they say, hey cowboy, you want to be a Recon team? I say, why not? I try my best.


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[Assistant] The first thing I came to the, uh, to the team, recon team, I scanned everybody, looking, you know, bad guy, looking.


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[Assistant] Try. Try your best. And then I joined the team.


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[Assistant] At the time, at the time of that, Alaska is burned out. They didn't blow out.


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[Assistant] And when I joined it, they got it. Rebuild the team. And they say, hey.


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[Assistant] Alaska is no good. Too many goats because too many people died. So we need to change the name.


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[Assistant] Until FOB1 closed, we came to, uh, the now CCN.


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[Assistant] Ah, I remember it. We had a contact with the enemy, but we cannot move out to the, uh, to the, uh, to the R, uh, LG. We inside the jungle.


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[Assistant] One knob each. We got a rope. Different rope.


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[Assistant] Four guys come up, pick up the, uh, the rope to hang it up. And another four guys still, you know, keep them safety. Right. Security. Keep shooting. Security. And then after the chopper left.


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[Assistant] And then another four rope. Throw it down. We try to hook it up.


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[Assistant] You know the tree here, the rope, it turn over. Oh. The tree. So what happened?


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[Assistant] And then, you know, we, we got a stable rig. We don't have a stable rig at the time. No, just a swiss seat. Yeah. We have a three row to one for seat and one from here and then another two for seat. Right. And John Allen saw it. He give me one from him. Oh. If I hook it up there, you know, the chopper gonna cut it down and I drop it back to the, to the plant I gonna die.


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[Assistant] And then, they, they pull up. I only want string in here.


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[Assistant] Yes, in here, and when they going up like at the thousand feet or two thousand feet something, and then I got a ruchak here, I got a gun, I got a, you know, the, uh,


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[Assistant] And then John Evelyn wanna warp it. But, but the wind cannot be together at the time.


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[Assistant] Yes, but luckily we got a jungle boat.


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[Assistant] Because we got a flare gun, right? We would shoot flare gun. Yes. And, you know, the, uh, the chopper still flow.


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[Assistant] So, you know, it flew right, still flew, flew, flew. And then my, uh, my body is up and down. And until we go to the full by, and the chopper drop us down, when, when I lie down on the ground, I still understand. I'm looking down to my gun, the magazine is empty.


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[Assistant] I change the magazine lock and load again and do it. And then the pilot coming down to pick me up to the, uh, put inside the chopper.


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[Assistant] And I don't know anything anymore. Cause you're unconscious.


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[Assistant] From there to the, uh, to the Fubai.


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[Assistant] But I still, I still know everything. Even I die. Wow. And then Bruce Johnson shoot the gun. Hey, medic! And the car coming in picked me up to the, uh, to the 85th hospital.


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[Assistant] And on the way, uh, he, he tried to, you know, wake me up. He used an elbow.


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[Assistant] That mean, I die for something?


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[Assistant] Even I don't do anything. I can't do anything. The people thought I'm, I'm dead. But myself, I still alive. Wow. I hear what you say.


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[Assistant] I know something going on, knock something. I live in there.


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[Assistant] And then, after he, he tried to wake me up by this one, and an air wall.


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[Assistant] After that, 2 hours, 3 hours, I think 3 hours.


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[Assistant] My team. Can I club? Hmmmm. Alcohol.


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[Assistant] He say, hey, cowboy good, good man. We gotta bring him back. Everybody drunk. Uh, John Allen, yeah, John Allen, uh, can't cry, took out a zip. Right.


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[Assistant] Drew up to the hospital, point the gun to the doctor. Saying, you better take care of him.


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[Assistant] Yea, with John Wall, he's just threatening to beat him. Okay. You MP right now, right?


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[Assistant] And my friend, you know the people drug, crying, miss me. I knew, I hear that.


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[Assistant] But I can't do anything. And my, you give me a coffee, you give me smoke, and then I don't know.


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[Assistant] Maybe they put the hot water in into my mouth.


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[Assistant] And I feel something go through here and then I wake up.


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[Assistant] Your wife's brother. Yes, I have two brothers. One of the, uh, got a P.O.W. at the Langway, and another one with the Idaho team.


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[Assistant] The total time from 66 to 72.


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[Assistant] In, uh, 66 to middle of the 67, the timer is for training. In 67, I'm joined to the Alabama team till to August 72. I lost my leg.


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[Assistant] But most of the time it's just work.


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[Assistant] Yes, I just call it, uh, a burn for one mission.


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[Assistant] Total time. Sometime only 10 days, sometime 1 month 3 times.


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[Assistant] So that's why we receive the money, get paid, for two times or three times. Okay, for example.


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[Assistant] Uh, on the first day of the month, we take the money. We go downtown for two, three days. And after two, three days,


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[Assistant] Mission. I say, okay, we go. And we stand by there for a week because the weather.


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[Assistant] And then we went there, but you know the, you know the shock blow, right? When we come up to the LG, the communist shoot up, we, we came back. We not jumping down. And then.


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[Assistant] After a few day, 1-0, we gotta pass, go punts. He say, okay, for one day. And, you know, I tried to do it. He understand it. No money.


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[Assistant] He took to the S1 to get the money. And then we on, uh, we on pass for two days or whatever we can. We came back because the reason we stand by for that target


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[Assistant] We come up there because of the weather or whatever.


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[Assistant] Well after a week, we cannot go. At the weekend, I say,


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[Assistant] We stand by for, for the target for like 2 weeks, 3 weeks or 1 month. A lot of reasons we cannot go there. Weather or the community activity underground.


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[Assistant] I bet, you know, like at the, when we went out the mission, everybody know, even the Pentagon, or even, you know, the Headquarters of Asia.


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[Assistant] But we can't, I cannot remember how many mission...


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[Assistant] I gotta go. I cannot remember. Too many. Too many. You didn't write a diary. You couldn't write a diary.


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[Assistant] We can do anything. We can, we, we can say, hey, I go there, I go there, I go there.


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[Assistant] When we receive the mission, like it, yeaah. One zero say, hey, we gotta go ourselves. We understand ourselves. We gotta go DMV. We know the DMV. Or we gotta go, uh, LAO. We know. We gotta go,


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[Assistant] Cambodia, Thailand and Vietnam, the border. We know situation from them. Because we learn from, uh, from training from the North moving to the South. They got so many secret zones from the, eh, from the communists.


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[Assistant] And we know when they move from the north to the, from the north to the south, how are they working on it? Our people worry too heavy.


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[Assistant] Like a root shock, like a web gear who got it, like a hundred pound or more than a hundred pound, right?


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[Assistant] Some of us, yes, close to it, yes. But the communists, they don't wear anything. Just AK-47 and AK vest. Because they live in there.


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[Assistant] They don't need food. They don't need carry water. They don't need carry food with them. Because they live in there. Like in my house. We came down there. We carry things to heavy.


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[Assistant] Then we learn from them. We know how their activity. But our job is to protect this guy.


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[Assistant] He, he told big. And you know, we, we easy to move. And we easy to understand them. But he from here, he came to Vietnam.


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[Assistant] They good. Good more than us. So uh. They schmock more than us. We learn from the Vietnamese.


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[Assistant] Okay, when, when we come down, the fudge chopper?


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[Assistant] It made me, Jim Strong, and another two, and, uh,


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[Assistant] And that's true of enemies. We gotta go in that guy. We came down.


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[Assistant] The communist way we drop down, the ground, they shoot it up.


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[Assistant] And we are not surprised about it, because we understand the situation. Did you see the flag that was flying? The N.V.A flag? N.V.A flag.


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[Assistant] The flag, according from the flag, we can make it our legatee. Not division legatee.


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[Assistant] Reach him like a 3,000 guy on the ground. We understand that 3,000.


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[Assistant] Then, Lin Black tried to get down. They got shot. Then, King Bee lived up. And another King Bee, they got a tactical from the chopper.


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[Assistant] Land this way, down this way, land this way, down this way, and shoot another place to make it difficult to, for communist adjustment where we going down.


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[Assistant] And then another chopper. That means H-34, it burn out. Drop it out. Crash. Yes, crash.


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[Assistant] But, you know, we, half on the ground, half of the chopper. What you gonna do? We gotta go. And the lean black drop down. When we drop down, you know, at the plant algae, we gotta move to the jungle right away to hide them.


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[Assistant] And we got a very quick briefing. See what you gotta do next.


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[Assistant] And we got a briefing with em. The pack, what can you say?


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[Assistant] But James Stryke, the big guy, the one zero said no. He said no.


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[Assistant] He thought, you know, we're very strong, but he, he forget to understand that not in there, 3,000 guys there.


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[Assistant] And not our homeland. They're the communist land, right? They're in Laos. Yes. And then they say...


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[Assistant] To continue march. That's what he said. And then Lynn Bright told me.


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[Assistant] We show, you know, the postcard from the communist.


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[Assistant] Lin Black forget to tell you we found the, uh, AK-47.


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[Assistant] So I understand, you know, the- They were sitting there watching.


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[Assistant] With the helmet, the, uh, communist, uh, hat.


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[Assistant] And then we're not, you know, going out the trail. Sure. We, we go by in the jungle. So when you're down that trail, that's a big mistake.


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[Assistant] Retraining, yeaah, the, the, uh, the, uh, Ivan Pass. Right. And then Tinshaw. You're out on the island with Tinshaw. Tinshaw.


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[Assistant] Because he on my team. Got it. He was on my team. I need to protect him. He need to protect me.


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[Assistant] We tried to bring them a wish house, but we could.


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[Assistant] I tried to move up, to wrap the hand, the dead man. AK-47 drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


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[Assistant] I got a bull bike, I'm glammed by it, going up, you know, the stride, he's the big guy, he's the fat guy. And I tried to glam over, and when they shoot it, hit to the stride body.


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[Assistant] And I can feeling his body shake when he hit the bullet. Wow.


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[Assistant] I told them last, but they never listen, he never listen to me. Even there.


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[Assistant] I heard, hey, communists say ambush. Don't kill them, that means don't kill us.


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[Assistant] He said, go. You know the, you know, you know the rule from the team. The first man, get up.


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[Assistant] Another man stand up. Okay. And step to, to the booth where, where the first man step. And he stand up. I saw, I saw him because I hate him. I said, he said no.


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[Assistant] Third step, I hear the bullet and he down. I turn around. I'm not stay there for.


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[Assistant] I gotta turn around and then the big tree, I lay there. And it come and it shoot again. Because we very close, like here to here.


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[Assistant] And when I try to move in to get it like the SOA map and then the, the thing for survival in his pocket.


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[Assistant] I tried to hold everything in his body, even to limb, even to blood, and tried to take him out.


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[Assistant] I'm lucky. I'm very lucky because, you know, his body is very big. When I try to move with


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[Assistant] Especially the, uh, appointment.


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[Assistant] That too. So what are we gonna do? We can't do anything. But when later on, the team later in here,


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[Assistant] The gun, you know, point, like, to, uh, to his head. But he didn't see it. Like here, his head is here, the AK-47 gun right here. And the communist, I'm afraid, when he shoot it, we gonna, we gonna find out where he at.


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[Assistant] Observation, as in, hey, AK-47 pointed the, uh, lock here.


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[Assistant] You never know it from here to here. How do we survive?


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[Assistant] So that's why we gotta one hand grenade, one magazine, and we throw the grenade, and we gotta single shot, ping, ping, ping, be sure the communists keep their head down. They don't have a time to looking, to pick up the grenade. You don't wanna play catch with a hand grenade. I said, one hand grenade.


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[Assistant] When becoming AI drill in, in home, right?


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[Assistant] They don't have a time or two thinking, what we gonna do?


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[Assistant] And then after my, my get, my magazine is empty, he shoot it up. Ding, ding, ding. How the communists doing? Nothing. Can't do anything. And then when we, we clear around us.


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[Assistant] Because everybody one throw that one, one hang a neck. What do you, what do you think? What do you hear?


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[Assistant] So they're scanning us. How we, how we're fighting.


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[Assistant] So that's why, you know, we try to live around us. And then we be shaped at the time.


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[Assistant] Where is that? Where is that from? But lucky for him, from the China.


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[Assistant] They make it by themselves in the genre. Oh, is that right?


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[Assistant] I can tell you the first thing in here that, you know, when, when, when the black down, you know, the water in the jungle, we cannot, you know, wave it, right? Right. But we still pour whole kind of water to him to make him wake up. I mean, we don't know our situation.


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[Assistant] With another water, how, how with another water in, in the jungle?


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[Assistant] But we still do it because we love him very much.


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[Assistant] We gotta protect by God. I don't have time.


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[Assistant] Maybe all that praying helped. You know, we only pray. Only, only pray. At the end of the way we go or at the end of the thing in my mind. We shoot them. They shoot them. And then if the God not protect me, not protect


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[Assistant] 100% for true. That's what I told you, I can tell you. I can, amazing.


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[Assistant] The time he lie down, I'm crying, I say, hey, black, black, black. He only one, you know, we can believe. One one, I cannot tell anything. He can't do anything to him. Even, you know, we respect him a lot.


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[Assistant] But at the time, what should we do? In my mind?


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[Assistant] We have no change. We have nowhere to go. We can do anything.


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[Assistant] They got a thousand, thousand. We have only few guys. Only seven guys.


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[Assistant] Because we did 200 and 3 wounded. I got wounded myself. I'm 79 wounded. Black.


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[Assistant] Black with it. M79 run out the, uh, the ammo. The bullet.


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[Assistant] And almost we use a knife. But lucky for us.


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[Assistant] I mean, we can pick up the, uh, AK-47s and the weather from the communists.


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[Assistant] And we still protect, we can protect us on the ground. So I can tell you, because when


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[Assistant] Even, you know, James Stry is still back, still back there.


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[Assistant] Two or three Vietnamese bodies still back there. We can't do anything. When we ring up that,


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[Assistant] Make me feel, you know, depressed. Again, only to tell you about. So.


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[Assistant] I don't know why Meyer and me still alive in here. I don't know. That's a magic.


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[Assistant] Because in order to survive, we gotta do it.


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[Assistant] We gotta do it, we can't eat. Body, enemy, make the chance back. To protect.


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[Assistant] We got a lot of support up the air. Like a Phantom, like a Sky Rider, like the CH-53 Charlie Green Giant. We can see the bird.


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[Assistant] And an enemy very scanning. And then we on the ground, we can point. Skyrider, bomb is in there.


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[Assistant] And then they're very scary. That's why we survive.


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[Assistant] You, you can see that. Keep your fucking hat down. Yeaah. That mean bomb neck to me. Yeaah. Bomb neck to me. Yeaah. Because they upstairs, they know what's where, where we are. You know, in the hat, you got a panel. Mhm.


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[Assistant] We turn over, so the implant can see where we were.


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[Assistant] But 200 feet, bomb it there right away. And I want to hit you. I say 12 o'clock.


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[Assistant] We work together. We control everything.


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[Assistant] The people outside say, hey, how do we survive her? It easy to survive her. Because we there, we shoot the bomb.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we understand exactly. Communists, you know, very afraid to airplane. Even they got a big gun or they got a tank. They very scary.


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[Assistant] We're on the ground. They want to kill us? It's very difficult.


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[Assistant] And they want to kill us because they afraid of us, you know, their area got destroyed by the bomb.


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[Assistant] You there, you got a big tan. Thank you. Hello. How you doing? Goodbye.


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[Assistant] We, we, we come there, there, their house. They are afraid to destroy their house. So, we wanna, they wanna kill us. It not, not easy. Not gonna be easy.


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[Assistant] It's not easy because we learn a lot. We're training a lot.


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[Assistant] We know when, when we came down there, we had a brief thing, right?


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[Assistant] How many enemies on the ground? Where we can hide them? Where we can put the uh, the top? It means M14 mine?


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[Assistant] Toe poppers. Yea, toe pop, where we can put it, blame our mind, we can put it, you know, C4, and we know situation on the ground.


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[Assistant] I look in the jungle, I look in the mountain, and I can see it.


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[Assistant] Day by day we get experience. I'm not too good.


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[Assistant] But with my experience, I can look enough to jump the mountain here, mountain here. I can say, hey, I'm right here.


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[Assistant] I read the, uh, location for him. And then, that the way it is.


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[Assistant] They hear, hear the bullets going down here.


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[Assistant] And then they shoot up, we're going down here, we move to, uh, you know, we got a high in here to cover us. And grenade throw here.


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[Assistant] As you, as I say, that Karminage is not training well. So if, you know, they throw a grenade, put it out.


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[Assistant] Come in here. One, two, three, four. They throw it. We gonna die everybody.


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[Assistant] Because, because they are not well-trained. But with us, hang a net, put it down, thumb it.


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[Assistant] One, two, three, throw it. When they pick it up, it's gonna blow it out. That's why we can suggest that communists are not well-trained. Or whatever, they're not training at all. They just know, put it down and throw it.


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[Assistant] That's why we- Lucky for you. Yeah, we still survival. The people they don't understand, they say, hey, the guy is liar. No.


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[Assistant] You want to see Scar? No.


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[Assistant] They all the way co- They what? The co- uh, enemy. All the way. Chiu Hoi.


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[Assistant] Geez. But we know, we knew that two guys, two survivors. Yeaah, you knew that. You were looking for them.


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[Assistant] We got a difficult time to join with them. So that's why we take


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[Assistant] You know, very crazy decision. We go our ways.


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[Assistant] Go fast or we go slowly or we go, you know, by another way to get in to join with them.


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[Assistant] This from, uh, from, uh, from the hill here to the cash side, it's a very difficult time for us. But we gotta do it. You know, like at 18 o'clock.


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[Assistant] I thought in my mind, if I stay overnight,


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[Assistant] I gotta die because my bleeding in the back, everything in my body, I say, hey, let me, let me join first. And I run through.


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[Assistant] When we had a tactical to escape.


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[Assistant] From the, uh, from here to the crash site, I say, go and fight. And Kwan, and Ju, got a two gun. This fight, ding, ding, ding.


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[Assistant] And then when I get there, I gotta shoot my ding ding and a timbre.


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[Assistant] And then when I run there, I say, hey, I saw the chopper there, and I stay there, I say, go. When, we don't have a radio, but when I saw that, the people understand I'm safety.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna die because of bleeding. Sure.


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[Assistant] And then, anyway, I die. Let's try. Let's try to looking for the way for survival. Right.


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[Assistant] We still, you know, understand we training well, we training good, and then we work together really good. If I'm running,


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[Assistant] We still have one or two car 15. Really? You know we, you know the way car 15, the, the front. Yes. We put, we take it the, in the front of the M16. Yes. We put in, in car 15. Different shop.


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[Assistant] For a different one? Different sound. Okay. Yeah. Different sound. So, when I saw that, bam! Like a, like a, like a machine gun. Right. But the K-15, the long one in here. Yes. It's very small. But when we shoot it by the, uh,


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[Assistant] And they knew that, and then they follow me. Follow me? At the time they follow me, I got ping, ping.


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[Assistant] If you pull it full automatic, you don't have a good enough, you know, ammo.


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[Assistant] So then, ping! We count. Maybe we can play game with them. One, two, three, ping!


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[Assistant] One, two, three, bing, bing. Sometime. And then they scan it. If it's fools, you know, they automatically get, they say, hey, this guy had no experience in the war.


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[Assistant] Not ping, ping, ping, ping. Different, different way, different style. So they know the, uh, the people with the enemy, they understand exactly those guys that, how, how they learning. So according from the, uh, from the training,


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[Assistant] We're doing well, we're doing good, very good. So any situation, anywhere and anytime.


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[Assistant] So just, you know, just let the people understand it in the army now.


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[Assistant] You better learn, you better train. Don't be, don't say hey, I'm hero, I'm hero, I'm the big guy. No. No. We need to training. Always training. Training all the way. Learn from each other. It's gem strike.


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[Assistant] He listened to me, he said, hey, how do we get out? And that easy, right? Call the chopper. I need extraction. And then we shape the every body.


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[Assistant] Situation in Vietnam war country.


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[Assistant] If I'm not joined to the army, I get back home, I cannot survive.


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[Assistant] Why not we stay with the, uh, shock? We got a lot of offering. We got a lot of money.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, we got it, you know, the, uh, a lot of power when we on, go back to town, we, we, we wear the, uh,


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[Assistant] NVA uniform, nobody can touch it because we have it, right? The car. Employee of the US government.


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[Assistant] So nobody can toast. Whatever they want to toast, we got an MP. Military police there to protect us.


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[Assistant] And we got a gun in the front, we got a gun pistol in the back.


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[Assistant] We got a claim on mine here, we gotta go somewhere. We pull over here, nobody know.


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[Assistant] Right here. You wanna play? Go ahead. Come on, please. Even, you know, the, uh, police station. Whatever they wanna do with us, we join together with one team. Three American.


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[Assistant] All day. You know, I can count the piece up the inside. 555 piece.


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[Assistant] Put it down with C4 inside. We took out the, uh, we took out the C4.


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[Assistant] We don't know underground, but the water in there, the squam in there. And then, we get out there.


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[Assistant] We're looking for, with the people experience like me, we're looking for the hide a place and under the tree to stay there.


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[Assistant] And they wanted, they wanted, uh, me to be, be able to play with Redmond. They wanted to catch the team.


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[Assistant] They want, the first thing like it, they want a shop like it, the, uh, fresh man.


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[Assistant] And, but after that, they want, but they want to catch the team. They don't want to kill the team. Okay. They say surrender, like a Chiu Hoi. And then, we answer the, uh, by the cop 15. He had a cop Chiu Hoi. But they very close to us. They got a bunker around there. And then they shoot the guy with the radio.


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[Assistant] Before they want to test the team, they got to cue the radio man first. Okay.


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[Assistant] Like the French man, he had the radio, they want to make contact to the team, they got to kill the radio man first.


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[Assistant] And then my legged neck to the radio, I pull.


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[Assistant] I kicked the radio out, but they shoot the radio, including my leg.


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[Assistant] Maybe two, three rounds into my leg, they shoot by RPD.


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[Assistant] That time, we just get out there for 10 minutes. And team, I just report to, uh,


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[Assistant] Bingham, Bingham just report to the, uh, Covey, say, team safety, team okay, and they can go home.


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[Assistant] And my friend, they carry me out the, uh, they call back, they call back, they call back to the chopper, the chopper come back. But, you know, I got it, uh, PRC, uh, 68.


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[Assistant] No, PRC68 radio. Immigrancy radio?


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[Assistant] The Oaktan. Uh, Oaktan, right? Yes. We got an Oaktan. Oaktan, we cannot talk. But PRC68, we can change the frequency to talk. Oh, okay.


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[Assistant] That they gotta develop the, the new thing.


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[Assistant] And then when I turn it on, you know, when I pull out the, they gotta pull, try to pull out me to the LG. And then I pulled it on, and then the jump was coming back. And it shoot up to the enemy.


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[Assistant] And I turned over and my leg, it, it really hurt, really pained. I tore my, uh,


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[Assistant] PSG is 68 away. I'm dropped somewhere.


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[Assistant] And then they, they thought, I'm, I'm dead. It got up to 10 minutes.


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[Assistant] I cannot end, you know, turn off the BRC-28. That means I am the one dead. And they want to kill.


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[Assistant] They want to blow out the, uh, PRC-68. They don't want PRC-68 to the hand to animate it. And that's why I survived. And they shoot around us by the rocket, by the missile, Hong Kong the thing, and the NVA thought,


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[Assistant] You know, like the, the job will know where they are.


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[Assistant] They move out. Oh, they, they, they were scared. They scan it, they move it out. And I'm free. I'm not free, but you know, I got a, I got a safety situation. And the chopper lay down, pick me up. And the first chopper lay down, I smell the gas. Because the enemy shoot up the chopper.


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[Assistant] To the guest tank. I say, get out of the way. I cannot shoot because I shoot it. The, uh, the chopper better burn it out.


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[Assistant] And I wave my hand and I say go go go go go go.


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[Assistant] And they talked to whole the team. I said, don't shoot anything, don't shoot anything. And after that, you know, the, uh, the pilot, they knew, you know, the gas spread out. And then they left. I don't know what happened. What happened with the chopper? But the second gun landed down, picked me up. They take me to the 95th hospital. And then, later on today, I got inspection.


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[Assistant] After I got wounded, I was sent to work with the American Embassy.


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[Assistant] Got it. My station is in Da Nang.


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[Assistant] Today, we launch Danang with, uh,


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[Assistant] The end of the march, 1975.


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[Assistant] With my experience with the, uh, shock, we understand enemy situation. They fight from, uh, north to the south.


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[Assistant] But I worked in the Atlanta, and at the time, you know, the, uh,


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[Assistant] They want to take it down. I move up to the shelf. I get a lot of enemy. I contact a lot of, you know, like the security or police. What do you think they move?


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[Assistant] They attack from the north to the south, but I'm from the south, move up to the north.


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[Assistant] They thought I'm, I'm their friend. That's why I'm telling you that we need to train.


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[Assistant] They've been harming the people from the north. They're not paying attention about the people from the south to the north. But if you move from the north to the south, they got a checkpoint.


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[Assistant] Where you go? What is your name? Where do you work? Everything they ask the question, but I'm from the north, from the south to the north. The reason that my father-in-law


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[Assistant] Of the way of the Fubai, Fubai camp. And then we stayed there.


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[Assistant] Until to... They took over the Shagon.


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[Assistant] We almost crazy. We don't know where to go. We don't understand situation. But my family in Saigon and Dalat and in Bien Hoa.


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[Assistant] You know, I use it, enemy paperwork.


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[Assistant] That means enemy ID card and enemy certificate, that means from the North. By the way,


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[Assistant] My relief, my uncle, my something relief, my nephew, up the north, going to the south to see me.


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[Assistant] I mean, when, when the first thing we, 1954, we still have the people living in, in the North. And when they came down, they're looking for us. Because between Saigon and North Vietnam, it's very difficult, very difficult. In Saigon, it tricks people. And, you know, knowledge people. But in North Vietnam, they only, you know,


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[Assistant] Knowledge by the communists. They limit.


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[Assistant] So when I, when they came down south, when they came down to the south to see our family, they don't have nothing, but they still say hey.


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[Assistant] We got a TV over the town, we got all kinds of things, but they have nothing.


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[Assistant] But at the time, they asked for the money, they asked for the gold, they asked for the ring. That's why I learned from them too.


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[Assistant] I'm not stay only one place. Today I'm in San Jose, tomorrow I'm down here. La Chancelette. La Chancelette, I gotta go Tennessee.


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[Assistant] I buy something, everything in, in the communist, uh, uh, situation, government, everything


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[Assistant] I gotta go, uh, down to see some Danang or somewhere. I buy the fish. Took from there.


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[Assistant] Back to Saigon to sell the super, uh, black market.


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[Assistant] So I found out the way. By the way, I'm looking for the way to escape.


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[Assistant] They give me some time off free because they know, they knew.


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[Assistant] I was from the shock man SOG for free. They invite us because they got a gun but they don't know how to do.


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[Assistant] October, I was successful to come to Malaysia.


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[Assistant] I, I, I thought I, I gotta go, I can go buy a kitchen, uhm, whatever the, uh, lounge. But my leg cannot walk. Because I know where the way to go.


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[Assistant] I see the, uh, American delegation. And they come to innovate me.


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[Assistant] So they say, and then they take me to the, uh, to come to the United States.


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[Assistant] How do they go, how do they confirm who you are? I have nothing but, you know, they got a special interview.


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[Assistant] From the people from, uh, from the U.S., I mean GVA, I mean Joy Volunteer Agency. When I came there, I have nothing. But they asked me. And I talked my history.


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[Assistant] They're called Mike here. They're called Mike Stett. To check up.


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[Assistant] And after one month, they say, hey, you come. Who asked?


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[Assistant] Yes, because they asked me, they got a, you know, group, like, looking for the, uh, for the POW or whatever, MIA. They asked me the question, do I know any American, uh, mission in action or PRM? I said yes, I did. I talk, uh, poking, uh, can cry, James


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[Assistant] I only, I only remember with three. But they asked me, uh, do you know where the location is? I said yes, I did. Sure. And they tried to bring me back to the Vietnam to tell them.


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[Assistant] But, uh, they could because the time I stayed there for six months for waiting to come back to Vietnam.


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[Assistant] But I don't know why they send me to the Philippines for education training.


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[Assistant] American life. And in there for Sigmund, I came over here, San Francisco.


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[Assistant] And how did she escape? Oh, by, uh, because some-


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[Assistant] She had a husband, like the, uh, the evenemy pilot. And...


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[Assistant] They're out of Vietnam by the way, you know, the, uh, her husband. Wow.


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[Assistant] My sister, she be here like at the, uh, 75.


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[Assistant] And then she got like a few gas stations. Five gas stations.


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[Assistant] It's Shobun, uh, Shell, Akko, and then I got, I, when I came, I worked for her, like a family job.


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[Assistant] But now, I'm still okay, but another problem. Agent Orange. Agent Orange.


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[Assistant] I got a kidney problem. I got a dialysis.


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[Assistant] Because the newborn, they don't have, you know, any food. They don't have any, yeaah, like, energy to, to stay. Right? Mhm. Three days.


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[Assistant] And then when I had a scab with the two of my sons came over here with me. My wife at the time was still like in Vietnam.


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[Assistant] And then I do my paperwork. All my family here right now. I got fashion.


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[Assistant] And three in here with me, and two of my girls, one in here with me, and another one that I believe is Louisiana. And then I have sixteen.


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[Assistant] I try my best. I try my best. I cannot tell. Whatever, you know, like it be. When I got


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[Assistant] My, uh, my, uh, my wife say call 911 when I say hey, don't do it. And then my son say call 911 when I say don't do it. Let me stay. I cannot sit. I cannot lie down.


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[Assistant] Now I call Chopper. Call King Beast. And, you know, I prove, because I have a training when, when I was young, I have a training Kung Fu. I got a training, training yoga.


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[Assistant] And I keep, you know, keep my body, you know, free.


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[Assistant] I keep my mind going. And later about an hour, I'm back to normal. Not normal! That time, you know.


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[Assistant] We cannot, we can, we can use it, you know, medication. I say, okay now, call 911. Take me to the doctor. With the time of emergency, I learn from my father.


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[Assistant] He crying when I lost my leg. He say, he told me why I'm not using the hope.


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[Assistant] Not, you know, use it by the American way medication. They could take pill or get shot.


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[Assistant] That's no good, so that's why I say don't call 911.


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[Assistant] You know, sometimes it makes me depressed. I got a lot of medication. And, you know, they spread everything in Vietnam. Uh, Agent Orange. We came down there.


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[Assistant] When we pull out the rock, the water in there, we take out our drink.


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[Assistant] That's why I got a trauma with my edge right now.


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[Assistant] Almost healed. Almost healed. Almost healed. Because the, uh, tree up, uh, one, uh, gnome, and another one that shamed my village.


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[Assistant] The first mission, we don't judge, we don't judge how he learning.


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[Assistant] Right. So that's why we gotta go strong enough to protect him. Sure. And by the childhood he's very good, perfect. He's a perfect man, but he's only one. And then, uh, French man, he's the new guy. We don't know about him, but you know.


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[Assistant] Yes. Children. They gotta experience. I don't want.


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[Assistant] You know, the French man, like James Stryke. James Stryke, the first mission. And the first mission is easy to go.


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[Assistant] That's why, you know, I'm volunteer to go with the Virginia to take care of my, uh, my three friends, save my village. And by the way, that the French man, he's a very new man. Baby son. Yes, baby son. We call him baby son. But he did okay.


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[Assistant] You're perfect. Yeah. But you're good. You're training good.


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[Assistant] When I shoot something, he knew I run out of ammo. He cover me. And when he run out of machine,


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[Assistant] Thirteen. Yes, I know about it. I know he ran a lot of missions, but. For sure. That's why he's still, he's still survival.


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[Assistant] But in order, you know, to become like a you and me right now, I cannot, you know,


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[Assistant] Leave you alone. Right. I gotta go with you. Sure. Because we're close friends. Very close friends.


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[Assistant] No one else doing that. We got pay, right? And then we got a bonus if we do a good thing.


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[Assistant] We get in the jungle, we throw it, and then some special camera, and we throw it in the jungle.


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[Assistant] You, you, you gotta ask me why you turn the radio into the younger, right?


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[Assistant] Another system from the, from the, uh, from the department.


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[Assistant] But we don't know, or whatever, do I have authority to speak in that? The radio we throw in the jungle.


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[Assistant] That means you gotta have a question. If the communists pick up the radio, who's the one using it?


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[Assistant] A squad leader, a platoon leader, or a company leader. And they blow up? No, they not blow up. Inside the radio, they got something.


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[Assistant] There you go. Wow. Now, we, we, we learn from them a lot. I'm glad we talked to you today. I'm learning something. We learn, we learn from them a lot. You see it? Or, uh, like at the, uh, flashlight. Yes. We tour the jungle. Nobody know.


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[Assistant] And when we training to throw the flashlight in the jungle, the first question that they ask me, if you see the flashlight in the jungle, do you pick it up?


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[Assistant] You say no? You're no pasta test. You should check, you should pick it up. But the NVA might pick it up. Yeah, NVA gotta pick it up. Oh, they're gonna pick it up, but I'm saying I wouldn't pick it up.


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[Assistant] Okay, the first question they ask you, you see the flashlight in the jungle, do you pick it up? You say, no.


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[Assistant] That means something wrong with you. I say, yes, why not? And I pick it up. And the second question, what?


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[Assistant] What do you do with the, uh, flashlight when you pick it up? Turn it on. Turn it on? You fail the test.


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[Assistant] I don't know how to tell you, but, you know. You did a pretty good job. Yea, I got to learn a lot. I got to learning a lot. Okay, team moving.


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[Assistant] Three N.V.I. that follow you, enemy following you. The first question that


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[Assistant] You want a three enemy dead or you want a three enemy wounded?


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[Assistant] You go home. You cannot run Rick on anymore.


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[Assistant] We want POWs. I want a three guy, at least one guy that want it. Why?


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[Assistant] The wounded, another, another, NVA gotta take care of them, right? So that delay the time that they follow the team.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know how many. BFW a lot. Yeah. Buku piasters. Buku, like the, uh, like a hundred thousand something?


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[Assistant] We learn a lot, every, every different guy. And we learn from you, we talk back and forth. Yes, like I learn from him, he learn from me. So we, we sit down, we show our experience. Like I told you, if I show the enemy in the jungle, I kill him, it easy. But in order to complete my duty, I gotta stay on the ground about five days.


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[Assistant] That's why I'm not kill the enemy. I just stay there.


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[Assistant] And they, they test you how smart to handle the, the thing happen. That's why I want to become, you know, the, uh, recon team is very difficult. But specially,


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[Assistant] The first thing, protect this guy. Protect American guy. The first, the first choice.


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[Assistant] Protect American land. But we understand that


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[Assistant] We was reclosed to reveal the American came to the Vietnam. That's why.


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[Assistant] Our country situation right now. I am very sad.


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[Assistant] Gotta die by the sociolipid. My father.


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[Assistant] That become unity. He the capitalist. He not very rich man, but he middle guy. He middle in the Vietnam.


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[Assistant] But the communism, it no good at all. Please, send a message to the people.


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[Assistant] Don't trust the communism. That's all I can say. That we're here, we're safety.


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[Assistant] After the uh, the vote for president situation right now, I am sad.


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[Assistant] Who led the, at my knowledge, I don't know if it's true or not, but I know the hand from the


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[Assistant] I be here for 88, for 32 years. I never get back to the country. I never visit the Vietnam. Even I want to go back there, but. For the funerals? Yea, for the, uh, for our friend is still back in the Vietnam.


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[Assistant] If you don't trust me, I got a paperwork in here.


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[Assistant] General Smith, who is the, uh, MIA accounting?


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[Assistant] He's cam, he, he's cam in the, uh, Hawaii, Schmidt, Camp Schmidt.


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[Assistant] Can't cry, Robinson, and whole guy, they, you know, they get the helicopter. Destroyed. Yes, destroyed. But they won't, let me get, get there. I have met family with the, uh,


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[Assistant] I believe so. I believe so, but in my shy I hear, you know, the...


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[Assistant] Communists want to talk over the, uh, the, uh, U.S. Because they mess up, you know, the water. They mess up the computer for the president. It turned over to, uh, Mr. Joe Biden. I heard a lot of information, so I scanned it.


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[Assistant] I wanna buy a boat. Another boat, now. If I got it, well then.


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[Assistant] In order to help him, you know, I had to escape from, you know, his debt.


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[Assistant] How, how they mess up the country right now. The department of defense, major experts, get fired, and a lot of men get fired.


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[Assistant] They are not capable cover to another country. Why?


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[Assistant] You said, very strong, but we gotta take care. We gotta be careful with it. Remember, communism, control the people, by foot.


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[Assistant] That's why they control the people in China, they control the, uh, Cuba, they control the North Korea.


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[Assistant] You see, hey, hey, look good, look good, look good, but inside the country.


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[Assistant] No good. No good. They say you wanna food? You gotta do it. They wanna water? You do it. They wanna fish? One month for two or three fish? You gotta do it. I give you the paperwork.


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[Assistant] To go buy from the store. It's not free. Like here.


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[Assistant] You want anything? You gotta listen and obey me. What to do?


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[Assistant] Trust me about the way it is. You say a very strong country. No.


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[Assistant] How the government say, you need to take a mask.


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[Assistant] He got fired. And another tree got fired too.


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[Assistant] American don't lose anything right? But why we still get out of Vietnam? Why we lose Vietnam? Politics.


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[Assistant] Because now it's politics, but with my experience, it's politics.


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[Assistant] They can control, you know, the hero guy like you, like me.


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[Assistant] And then we trust them. We gonna die.


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[Assistant] Like at the, uh, the time you meet Obama, you see the, uh, do you see the picture of Marine?


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[Assistant] But why? Why we still have a picture? Because the people back in Washington.


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[Assistant] We're the soldier. We gotta do, and we gotta follow with the order. But they order us to come to die.


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[Assistant] So I'm not a politic guy. I'm, you know, retired man, 72 years old. I can't do anything. I can't make any money, but...


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[Assistant] I am afraid of my children, my grandchild. Grow up living under communism.


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[Assistant] Is there like a scenario where like one side is at total war, and the other side is like, hey we're gonna keep this kinda conventional? It kinda seems like, right, like certain, we'll say groups, whether it be nations, whatever, have a certain philosophy.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that's what I mean. So like, yeaah, these groups, like yeaah, they don't have the physical capability, but that was their approach. Like that, they, in their mind, they're in that zone.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a, when you, whatever, you go through this training. And the, that's part of it. That whole thing, that escalation of force, right? And there's like many thresholds. You know, like first it's like straight up friendly. And the better you-


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[Assistant] Yeah, fully. But each, yeah, each level has like a little threshold, like I said. But yes, the most prominent one is like, yeah. And it's kind of the same thing. It reflects that Total War kind of situation, where, you know, like, let's go to that end part of the spectrum, right? You go, like, Total War is like,


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[Assistant] We don't have time for the police to come, we gotta like, we gotta act, cause this person is violent towards us, or whatever, and then it's a straight up fight. Where you can expect like,


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[Assistant] No. Back in the day. No, you don't. But, I mean, you could, it could be argued that they're the same thing. You know, where it's like an appropriate amount of force, meaning like you're not abusing this guy no matter how much he's verbally, whatever, whatever, drunk or whatever.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, it's, but there is that convent, those rules, like yeaah, put your hands on them, use force, knock them out if you have to, you know, like you can do these kind of things, but you can't be just like, violating all kinds of, you know, situations. Right, cause it's not total war. It's not total war.


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[Assistant] That's funny you mentioned that cause I noticed that early on. Way long time ago. Years ago. And one of the things, I remember concluding that you were like that.


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[Assistant] There was a guy, a guy came into the gym and just, you know, he's a visitor. He's like, yeah, you know, I've been training, you know, I'm a jujitsu guy and I've been this and you know how a lot of like visitors might say that kind of stuff, you know, like it's almost comparable with the guy who says I got 500 street fights, you know, it's almost like the, that behavior is comparable to that. And he'd be like, yeah, you know, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm.


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[Assistant] What's funny is that's absolutely true. With being late. I come from a long line of late people. We all know that. But, yea, like if I was one minute late, and I didn't hear about it, like, okay, cool.


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[Assistant] One minute is kind of the standard. It's more subconscious, but it's like when you're running like one minute late, whatever.


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[Assistant] The next time, you don't feel that stress at all. You're like, oh, I was one minute late before, nothing, so no problem, right? Then you're like a minute and a half, two minutes, three minutes, and then you kinda like probe, you know, you're kinda like, wait, am I gonna hear about it? No? Oh, that's no problem then. Obviously, there's a pretty solid threshold of lateness that I can kinda exist in, you know?


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[Assistant] So actually let me ask you this. Okay. So my, we'll call my boss, supervisor, whatever, when I did hear about it,


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[Assistant] He would, I see what he was trying to do, I think he was trying to do that, right? The minimum. But he'd almost like giggle about it. Yeaah. Like, oh you're late. And I'm thinking back on my feelings about it where


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[Assistant] And that's not to mention that you and Dave Burke, good deal Dave, have effectively and successfully, by the way, cultivated an atmosphere of, uh, late being a for real bad thing. Because on Kauai late, it's not necessarily a bad thing.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying it's a good thing, but I'm saying it's not under mo- you know, a lot of circumstances like this bad thing to be like.


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[Assistant] That's so true. Look, so this might be, nah, I think this is a good example. So,


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[Assistant] That's how he acted, the way you're talking, Dave, where he'd be like, hey, he didn't give me a ticket either, but he gave me a little warning, but it was like, he cared, you know? So he was like, hey, he's like, I get it, you know, you wanna, you,


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[Assistant] You don't want to stop at the red light, I get it, whatever. He's like, but man, like, I don't want, I don't want to have to give you a ticket, you know, for running red lights. And I for sure don't want any accidents happening. And you know, I don't want to be in that spot to have to do that to you, you know, as far as the ticket goes. But that's how he was talking to me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if he had a bad attitude or, or an attitude that let's say I didn't like, um, then yeah, for sure. But his attitude was the thing that won me over. Of course, not getting a ticket is a thing for sure. But the way he talked to me, it made me like, we'll say it compelled compliance in a very nice way. Jack?


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[Assistant] You, you said that real, like, in passing there, like they might not even care. My hypothesis.


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[Assistant] Is that they do care. In one way or another. A physical...


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[Assistant] Situational evaluation takes place when you meet someone within that realm of whatever, you know, some kind of thing. Not to say you want to beat them up, not to say you want to fight with them, not to say you want to whatever, I'm just saying that evaluation process is a real thing and it happens I think most of the time.


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[Assistant] Again, if a guy is so far out of the scope of like your, we'll say your orbit, right, we'll call it, for lack of a better term, like your age, your size, if it's a jujitsu situation or whatever, then yeaah, it kinda, it kinda doesn't happen that much, but yes, I still believe that.


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[Assistant] To be honest, you covered it. Or a big part of it, I say, to be honest with you. But!


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[Assistant] Little something. You did mention physical fitness. In chess, which was interesting.


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[Assistant] Dang, and it's like, you know, you mentioned muscles tensing up, but bruh.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Okay, alright, well, let's think scientifically then. Okay, you got one booth, I don't know, booth, of two guys playing chess. This is gonna last two hours. You got another booth of a guy doing your everyday run of the mill metcon. For two hours.


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[Assistant] Nonetheless, as far as fitness goes, look, it's not to say that chess is like, not a way to get better, cause it straight up is.


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[Assistant] But as far as physical fitness goes, maybe not. But, physical fitness is- Not the best avenue. Yeah. Many other avenues. Jiu-Jitsu. That's one of them. Just general workouts, right? Workouts, you know, there's all kinds of workouts, whatever. Um, nonetheless, you do have to workout, I think. I concur. Dave Burke.


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[Assistant] Same, concur. Alright, well, we're working out. Every once in a while, we might have issues that we, that concern us. Joint issues, lower back issues, depending on who you are. Uh, shoulder issues, elbow issues, as the case may or may not be.


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[Assistant] We got supercruel oil. We also have vitamin D for immune, I don't even want to say issues, I want to say your whole immune situation. Really? To prevent issues.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so yeaah, Discipline Go, BOOM! There's also Discipline the Powder, and the Capsule.


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[Assistant] If that's your preferred method. You know, the cans are kind of a thing, let's face it. So I'm kinda, I'm kinda doing those a lot. But, Discipline Glow the Powder, that's a daily for me as well. Especially, yea, if I'm working out, 100% guarantee, that's the thing.


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[Assistant] It's on. So yes, these things will help us in our developmental journey on this path to stay in the game.


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[Assistant] OriginMain, speaking of OriginMain.com, as far as .com goes, uh, Jujutsu stuff on there, some good American-made stuff, by the way, 100% American-made, Jujutsu stuff, American denim, and boots.


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[Assistant] It's true. Also speaking of support, Jocko has a store.


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[Assistant] Called JockoStore. So you go to JockoStore.com. This is where you can get your discipline. Equals freedom. Shirts, hoodies, hats, all that stuff. So, represent on the pla- path. You wanna get these things? JockoStore.com. We have a subscription thing too. Working on the name.


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[Assistant] Shirt Locker, okay, approved, approved, straight up. Okay, Shirt Locker, kinda the same deal, free shipping, you know, subscription, you know, it's a different approach, really, it's not so you don't run out of shirts, it's not that, it's just, you know, it's a t-shirt locker. Anyway, check that out, it's cool, little bit different designs for us that are, you know, in the game.


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[Assistant] I'm over here doing the best I can. Anyway, thank you for that, by the way. Also, Psychological Warfare. It's an MP3 album with tracks of Jocko letting you know, hey, don't skip this workout, right? Because you know when you want to skip the workout. Dave doesn't know. Why? Because he doesn't work out? Or because he doesn't skip the workout?


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[Assistant] Well, for those of us who do entertain the notion of skipping a workout, you know, fudging on the diet, all that kind of stuff, we listen to psychological warfare, and it'll get you through it 100%, like a little spot, get it, you know, Amazon, wherever you buy MP3s, that's where you can get it.


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[Assistant] Your values and all, you kind of put yourself in that exact mindset as you were back then, right? So it's like one of these things where you...


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[Assistant] Think back to episode 2, 1, whenever, even before that and how it was such, it's such this massive part of your way.


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[Assistant] Certain circumstances, yea, and no. Ben, I remember at UH we jump in the ice bath, right?


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[Assistant] I don't know if I didn't notice it or what, not that I'm sitting around looking at tanks all the time or nothing but, huh.


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[Assistant] So what is there two, two, uh, so three guys in the tank or what? Like how?


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[Assistant] Books are cool like that, where, and you can kinda, especially if you just know the general story, where you open up wherever and you're like, okay, and you can get the, you know how like some of them, you're like, oh shoot, I shouldn't read this part, because not only will it, it might not make sense, but I, you know, you kinda should read the beginning first, you know, otherwise, will it be spoilers or whatever?


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[Assistant] Sure. Hell yea. Well, we are on the path. This is how to stay on the path.


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[Assistant] This whole deal. Okay. We'll, we'll, we'll discuss it. How about that? So we're working out.


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[Assistant] Oh, cause it was like art, like, you guys were traveling, right? No, it's just the-


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[Assistant] And you're trekking through the mountains on a certain course or is it like the kind you're just looking for elk at, you know.


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[Assistant] National Geographic or something like this where you see these animals and, you know, like yea, you see the obvious big ones, the elephant and the buffalo, you're like, oh yea, that's big.


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[Assistant] Man, a wild animal, even if it's kind of the smaller, like on Koi there's these little goats, right? These goats that cruise on the mountains and stuff.


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[Assistant] And from far away, you're like, oh look at that goat, but you start to get, I mean, I haven't been right up to one, a wild one, but as you kinda can see him closer, you're like, man, that thing's kinda intimidating, just how like, capable it is. You know, like, so these elks, like, they get kinda big, right? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Like, it's not like a little deer like on like, you know when you watch like Bambi, these deers are just so, so.


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[Assistant] It's just like, you know, like when you think of like, ooh, you know, these people or whatever kids, they're like, yeah, I'm a tiger or I'm a lion. And it's like, yeah, obvious, you know, lions are ferocious. Sure. But in real life, like a wild animal, like an elk, for example, when you go up to it, you're like.


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[Assistant] And what, you guys out there, what, no cell phone, no nothing, or you had service, or what? Like, what kind?


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[Assistant] But, uh, knock on TV. Yup. Right? I follow them. Yup. And there was a picture early on. Yup. Of an elk like close. Yeah. What happened with that scenario?


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[Assistant] Especially on your way up, you're losing way more than you're winning in any capacity. Oh yeah, for sure. And I feel like in this elk scenario too, where man, it's kinda like if you get one, that's like a, that's like a big deal, you know? It's a huge deal, yeah.


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[Assistant] Anyway, you put, uh, made out of, yeaah, guava tree, and then you cut it, then you put, uhm, surgical tubing. You know, those different, like. Oh bro, I mean, I made slingshots too, it's all good. That was your deal. Anyway, so, you go out and you're trying to, like, hunt little birds and stuff.


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[Assistant] And it's like, bruh, it's like kinda hard. It's not, you don't just, you're not just whacking birds all day. You're like, you're missing pretty much. So when you get one, it's like a huge, huge deal. So I kinda understand. But the Elks, it's the same thing. You see what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] So, whether you're pushing hard, whether you're going through dynamic terrain, whether you're, which can be a few different things, whether it be jiu-jitsu, even like long distance outdoor running and stuff like this. It's like, this is all for real stuff. Cliff, climb, you know, all this stuff. So yes, I agree. Well, you know, that's not my jam. Obviously, I don't know what it's called. Cliff, what is it called?


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, to, to, to reap full benefits of


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[Assistant] Doesn't mean as much in my experience anyway. I've only lived one life, of course, so far.


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[Assistant] Early on in life, versus later on in life, it seems like the structure kind of signif- is more significant.


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[Assistant] What do you max for? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I just made it up, but it sounded correct. Given the circumstances. Nonetheless, the point is, joints, joint warfare. This is what it's going to be. Jocko, joint warfare. This is supplementation for your joints. Keep them in check, in check, in the game. Start at the foundation.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I get- I've had it before. Yeah, okay, I've had bursites on my shoulder and my heel.


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[Assistant] When, cause I didn't do this before. I do deep squats barefoot. Check. For some reason I get bursitis in my heel.


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[Assistant] So, sure enough, next day, it's still sore, just as sore. I'm like, frick, this is like, this might be something serious, you know, like it might be bad. The next day after that, pretty much gone. It's like it just, it's like it decides to just be, I just feel like, you know, it's one of those, one of those deals. Nonetheless, if you want these things.


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[Assistant] It won't mean anything if your joints are jammed up, so you gotta take care. So now go up. Now when you're doing the bench, when you're doing the, in your case, deadlift, whatever you do, deep squats all day, you're gonna need the protein supplementation for rebuilding. That's when you implement the mulk.


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[Assistant] Sure, and they'll probably break it out. Yeah, yeah, actually that is a good, cause I have a bunch of those, the little packs. I think they're like from the musters and stuff, and you know, pkz sent them to me. Oh, okay. I don't bust into that at home. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, on the road. Yeah, that's good man, that's a good move.


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[Assistant] There you go, okay. So, you rea- okay, your joints are taken care of. Alrighty, all good. Your muscles, boom, you work them, break them down, rebuild them. Mox, supp- su- supplemental protein in the form of a dessert, all good. Work in Mox too, by the way. So if you're kids, you need general protein. And they like, you know, the dessert scenario as well. So, that's available. Then!


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[Assistant] Your body, all good. All re- degenerating, regenerating, bigger, all good. Structure, foundation, all good. Now you need the mind. Your mind. Keep you mentally in the game. Boom. That's where the discipline comes in. You see what I'm saying? Discipline, discipline, go.


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[Assistant] Cans, powder, whatever you like. That's your choice. That part is on you.


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[Assistant] I can't give accurate specific guidance on what, uh, implementation methodology. Fair enough. Nonetheless, if you're into the energy drink scenario, get the cans.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, okay, so I went kinda deep, like, okay, so I've been talking to Pete.


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[Assistant] I was like, bro, he's talking about all this, like, poison and stuff, like, this is what they do to do this, and it makes it this, and this and that. So if, when you're consuming your energy drink of death, like, saying all this stuff, I'm like, dang, bro, like, I don't even know, cause I used to like energy drinks.


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[Assistant] But, not anymore, just blink, oh, boom, all day, all healthy, 100%. Preserve it is, nope.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, all good. There it is. And while, so while you're on the path, that's supplementation, supplementation methodology. Perfection. It's a perfect system.


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[Assistant] Anyway, you get all these stuff, all this stuff at OriginMain.com or at The Vitamin Shop if you're walking in.


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[Assistant] So the- Go get some. So this is how it goes if you're in Florida or Virginia. In the morning, you take the joint warfare. Before you- it depends on when you workout. Before the workout, on your way to the gym, if you're going to the gym, stop at Wawa, you get the discipline go.


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[Assistant] Boom, to the gym, hit the gym, smash the gym, really? Smash it. Come home, boom, monk, all day.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and it's kinda, you know, like these, like the jeans for example, like, when you think about it, like, oh yeah, the designer jeans, like, when you consider really what are you paying for this, it's like the, whatever, the brand, but what do you like for real paying for, like, what do you care about, about those, those jeans?


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[Assistant] You know? Sure, the fit, okay, that's good, if that's a thing, if that's a for real thing, let's fix it.


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[Assistant] Alright, there you go. Sign me up. Yeah, my favorite jeans, 100%. Also, Jocko has a store. It's called Jocko's Store.


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[Assistant] And this is where you can get your shirts. While, while you're on this path, you want to represent discipline equals freedom. Good. We've got shirts, hats, hoodies. New board shorts, by the way.


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[Assistant] They're brand new. Anyway, uh, some, some Irish Oaks Ranch Soap, Jocko Soap, Trooper Soap, Morikid Soap, all that stuff. Anyway, yes, jockostore.com. If you like something, get something.


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[Assistant] It's like, uh, like when, when Jocko was born, the doctor...


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[Assistant] Uh, so yeaah, subscribe to that too. Leave a comment if you want to. If you have one of those, man, I don't even care if it's like kinda funny, but just, just say em. Those comments. Really good.


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[Assistant] But yes, maybe not quite as consistent as the Jocko Podcast, and you know, it makes sense. Anyway, yes, and I mentioned the YouTube channel, we have a YouTube channel, so yes, video version, all that stuff, excerpts, all good. Also, Psychological Warfare, if you need a boost from Jocko,


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[Assistant] Telling you the right thing to do when you're about to do the wrong thing, aka skip a workout, aka eat donuts, aka do something that you know you're not supposed to do. You never plan to do it.


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[Assistant] This is Jocko Podcast number 248 with Echo Charles and me, Jocko Willink. Good evening Echo. Good evening.


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[Assistant] As the summer of 1970 evolved, the deadly secret war in Laos raged into its sixth year.


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[Assistant] The Communist NVA and its secret advisors from Russia, China and Cuba continued supplying growing numbers of light and heavy weapons, state-of-the-art anti-aircraft artillery, missiles and vehicles.


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[Assistant] The communist campaign against SOG reconnaissance teams resulted in the Green Berets exceeding a 100% casualty rate.


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[Assistant] Meaning of the special forces soldiers who went across the fence into Laos and Cambodia, all were either killed in action, wounded more than once in combat with enemy forces, or they simply disappeared.


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[Assistant] As of July 4th, 2017, there are 50 Green Berets listed as missing in action in Laos alone from the secret war.


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[Assistant] Along with 105 aviators who died supporting SOG missions.


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[Assistant] Sog, hatchet force operations of platoon or company sized missions didn't fare much better.


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[Assistant] In an effort to bring a temporary halt to shipping supplies flowing down the Ho Chi Minh trail, three separate hatchet force slam operations were conducted in Laos west of South Vietnam between March 1969 and February 1970.


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[Assistant] The area of operations was codenamed Prairie Fire.


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[Assistant] Again, due to the severe political constraints placed on SOG operations, the Prairie Fire area of operations extended west of South Vietnam about 30 miles.


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[Assistant] No SOG teams went beyond that area of operations.


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[Assistant] The three slam operations were titled knight cap, spin down, and half back.


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[Assistant] Each of those operations had a hatchet force company helicoptered to a hilltop on the main segment of the Ho Chi Minh trail.


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[Assistant] There would be a traffic backup along the jungle trail.


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[Assistant] Oftentimes large portions of the Ho Chi Minh trail were not visible from air due to clever camouflage efforts by the NVA and their conscripted forced labor of local indigenous tribe people. Thus, when the first trucks were hit,


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[Assistant] Hatchet Force radio operators would call in tactical air support to destroy as many enemy trucks and soldiers as possible.


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[Assistant] Eventually, after a few days, the NVA massed hundreds of soldiers to hammer the hatchet force positions, inflicting serious casualties upon the entrenched troops, forcing their extraction from the area of operations.


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[Assistant] During the last mission, Operation Halfback, an H-34 South Vietnamese Air Force helicopter from the 219th Special Operations Squadron was shot down, killing all passengers aboard the old warbird, including Special Forces medic Sergeant First Class Bill Doyle.


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[Assistant] Those operations were viewed as successes due to the amount of enemy trucks, supplies, and troops destroyed during the intense battles.


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[Assistant] The three slam operations were launched from the top secret SOG base in Khon Thun.


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[Assistant] Command and control central. The last slam operation was run by B company in hatchet force command.


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[Assistant] By the end of August 1970, Green Bray Captain Gene McCarley became the commander of Bee Company. McCarley was a SOG veteran.


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[Assistant] Having run missions during the last few months of 1967 and into 1968 when he was assigned to R.T. Florida out of Comtume in 1968.


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[Assistant] R.T. Florida ran a series of successful missions including a trail watch, wiretaps of N.V.A. phone lines, and planning Air Force sensors alongside a trail. At the end of August, McCarley heard