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[Assistant] And uh, and P's, we give it to P and then P's like looking to pass it cause P wasn't a basketball player. So he's trying to pass it. I'm covered. Everybody's covered. And P just launches it over his head and it goes in and then we win. And I mean, this is a win for nothing. Absolutely nothing.


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[Assistant] And we just, I mean we're, we cheer, we carry them off into the locker room.


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[Assistant] You threw it over, you're throwing a ball over your head. Yeah. You know? So I think that, that would, that would come into it.


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[Assistant] So it's such a clutch performance that you like me reading Molly's book. You don't remember if you started pitching. I don't remember.


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[Assistant] That I, when I was 12, I dribbled down and threw it up in the.


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[Assistant] And just in the middle of everybody and it went in. But I mean, that was a luck. You know, that was like, it wasn't a crazy shot. It was a normal shot, but I don't think I was, there was no like, give me the ball. I know what to do. You know, there was no thinking of that. I had my no hitter.


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[Assistant] But that, you know, Oh, like very luck luck things. I'm playing 12 year olds that are 10 year olds that can't hit. Yeah, I had that heat.


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[Assistant] Too hot. I mean the fact that the uh, that's so funny to get heat checked.


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[Assistant] And he'll get on a run and not him. I specifically saying him because I've played with him when we talked about it, but tiger, I mean, look at.


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[Assistant] The math at the last masters that they just did tiger got a 10 on a par three, a 10. That's unbelievable. And then birdied five of the last six.


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[Assistant] So to flip that is, that is a clutch performance. He flips something to go, this is going to be embarrassing.


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[Assistant] I mean, if I got a 10 on a hole, my day's done. I'm not going to bounce back from that. I'm definitely not going to par, I'm not going to do, and he goes and almost gets, he gets all of those extra shots back. Except for two.


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[Assistant] I am actually. I've asked him to pick up way before he could ever get to 10. I would be like, that's good. He always tells me triple bogey, just pick up. Triple bogey max. If you're a golfer and you're terrible.


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[Assistant] Just do triple bogey, grab your ball, move on. Unless you're alone or you're playing with someone equally as bad as you. If anybody else is good, get the ball and come on. This is not the time.


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[Assistant] That's interesting. I could see that. Like you could be like, how would you feel? And you're like, I don't know. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You know, I think the highest you can get as an athlete...


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[Assistant] Is to whatever you're doing, there's no, you just know to do it. I, you know, me learning, trying to learn to golf, the swing that I'm trying to learn is I'm trying to get to a point where I stop.


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[Assistant] Thinking about my swing. That's what, that's, that's the difference of, besides their natural born gifts and talents of a professional golfer.


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[Assistant] Someone that's not good is they can't get over.


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[Assistant] A big reason. Now they could just not be good. There's many other things. But a gigantic thing while you're chunking balls and all this stuff.


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[Assistant] Is you're thinking about too much stuff. And so you're trying to make everything too perfect. In a weird way, I would imagine a lot of clutch performances. You could probably almost say, besides tigers, that has to be such a precise thing. But a lot of times it probably wasn't a perfect swing, perfect shot.


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[Assistant] It's because they, they're fine, it's perfect to them. You know, like they're not searching for perfect.


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[Assistant] They're searching for it to get the job done and whatever they do.


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[Assistant] Is, you know, you could probably have a weird shot that, how'd the shot feel? They're like, it didn't feel that great when it came out. It wasn't like if I knew it felt so good, perfect. It's like, they're like, I dunno, like rolled off my pinky, you know, but they were, they were, they're prepared for that to happen. I think.


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[Assistant] It's the rules of threes that someone doesn't know that's in comedy. Well they might, if, but the idea is that you always have something happen in threes.


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[Assistant] First two could be funny, and the last one needs to be the funniest. First two might not be funny, but the last one's the funniest.


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[Assistant] And like, I mean, with athletes, they can learn something pretty quickly because they, they're trained to.


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[Assistant] Learn how to do it. That's why a lot of them when they go over to golf, a lot of them are very good because they can figure it out and be like, what do I got to do? They might be terrible. I saw a guy play, this guy played football.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I was like talking to, he's with, I forget his name, but he's with, uh, my buddy Toby Mack. Somebody knows Toby. Lead singer of DC Talk for a long time. They were huge in the 90s.


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[Assistant] And they're so huge now. He still does very big now, but they were, uh, they, he was, this other guy came up and he was his friend. He played football and he's kind of swinging the club. He's just starting.


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[Assistant] And the first shots were like just awful. But even in a little time of 15-20 minutes, he hit a couple that were like pretty good.


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[Assistant] And you're like, oh, this dude, if he wants to figure it out, he's an athlete.


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[Assistant] He's like, oh, I just don't, I'll figure it out. You know, like they have that mentality.


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[Assistant] Yeah, when you ever see a slow mo of what they're doing, of how they're twerking their body or, you know, like even like when they go up, you gotta think.


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[Assistant] Like when Michael Jordan would, when he does the dunk and he switches. I mean, we always see it in this slow motion.


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[Assistant] Just try to jump and hold a tennis ball and give it to your other hand. It would be very hard. And he is, is a, it's a commercial. It's a movie. That's what it looks like. It's that like an actor did it. And he did that in that high level of a.


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[Assistant] It's, I think they slow every, I do get, they slow everything down. Everything becomes slower to them. So they're seeing it in a slower way and it's, they can do, now they have the physical abilities to keep himself up that long and jump that high. I mean, I was like, they just watched, they had the Tyson fight.


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[Assistant] Tyson Roy Jones Jr. fight this weekend. Wasn't that, it was a pretty good fight. Yep. It was fun. They had Jake Paul, Nate Robinson was one of the fights. Nate Robinson, basketball player, Jake Paul's internet YouTuber guy who called out Conor McGregor. He wants to fight Conor McGregor. I mean, yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, but Jake, I mean, if you saw the difference of Tyson and Roy Jones Jr., who are both in their fifties and Jake Paul, who's 23, who looks like he's


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[Assistant] Hey, Holly. Holly's having nightmares. I don't know if anybody that picked up. You just said, woo, woo. She has nightmares. She has regular nightmares. Maybe she's got a hole in her chest. She has PTSD from this week one.


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[Assistant] Uh, so, uh, but they're in their, they're in their fifties. And when you watch Jake Robinson, or Jake, Jake Paul, Jake Paul and, uh, Nate, Nate Robinson fight.


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[Assistant] It was like, Ney Robinson's unbelievably athletic. Star football player, three-time slam dunk contest, 5'9". He's got a 44-inch vertical, I mean his head's touching the rim, and he's 5'9". Uh, so extremely athletic.


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[Assistant] You know, but what he was trying to do was like come in quick with these punches. He's never boxed. And that other guy's fought once and trained a bunch and wants to be a fighter. But even Jake, I mean, his swings were so like kind of wild looking. Then when you watched Roy Jones and Mike Tyson, who are the best?


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[Assistant] But when you see their swings, their punches, it's so tight. Even the ones that they come outside are not as far. Jakes are way out here and they're there. Like that's a big difference.


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[Assistant] Just you know if you swung out to like your shoulders going is your hook punch but if you go outside your shoulder that's how much longer that takes to get there. Just seeing them the.


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[Assistant] How like, how like a professional fighter versus not a professional fighter. You're like, it's, it's wild, dude. And how much even Jake Paul, who just trained more than Nate Robinson, they, they weren't, it wasn't even a fair fight. They should have called that fight before they called it.


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[Assistant] It's not good. Jake Paul walked out to.


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[Assistant] I, I do love the, him calling people out. I, I, I love the show. It's, someone, I texted my neighbor Felix where you text, he goes, I go, I kinda didn't mind it. He goes, I definitely was entertained. And I was like, that's a good way to think about it.


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[Assistant] And that's how some stuff needs to be looked at, where people go, why am I not going to watch this dumb fight? It's about your entertainment.


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[Assistant] That's all that matters. It's not, yea dude, no one's watching this. It's like I'm trying to be like, I'm learning about boxing.


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[Assistant] And so this, it was, the show was entertaining. Snoop Dogg is very funny. He would like comments. Uh, it was very entertaining. They did a really good job. And the Tyson, Roy Jones unified was pretty good. It was pretty good.


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[Assistant] Is it, you almost, I'm like, well we don't have to say what happened in 2001. But you might.


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[Assistant] So like most people, there's people that listen to this that would, you know, definitely don't, you don't remember it, right?


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[Assistant] That's crazy. I mean, you would have, 9-11 wouldn't have been, you remember it, but it was not.


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[Assistant] So, the setup of it is, 9-11 happened.


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[Assistant] You know, I mean, A, his speech that he gave was unbelievable, that he gave down there.


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[Assistant] What a riff. I'll run through a, I mean, I'd run through a building right now, like just this wall, just run through it. That kind of, that, that, those moments are


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[Assistant] In the fact, he doesn't know what he's going to say, dude. No one, I, there's no way the guy, they're like, all right, you shout. They planted him. Yeah, you don't plant him. That's again, what the, the Vandy football, the woman this weekend, it did happen, but it, it, it doesn't feel like that. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, but no, but like her moment this weekend was, yeah, they did need help.


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[Assistant] They, it's COVID, we didn't have kickers, but it feels, she gave this speech at halftime, they had a hashtag, I play like girl already set up. It's almost like nowadays, if you do have something that happens kind of naturally, they.


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[Assistant] They put, they corporate it so much that it doesn't feel like it.


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[Assistant] And he's just standing on the rubble with a bull horn. Someone yells that. I can hear you. That's unreal. So like just to come up with that stuff. I mean, the whole, the whole world's looking at you for an answer. This was the most helpless the whole country has ever felt is what can we do? And they're looking at this guy.


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[Assistant] And this guy delivers that message and then that almost, I mean, dude, 300 million people don't know what to do. They don't know what to do.


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[Assistant] People, people are blown away that this could even happen in America. And then him to say that.


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[Assistant] His approval rating at that point was like 99 or 9 or something so high. Just in that moment. Cause you're like, dude, this is.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's the most unified we've ever been as a country. It was the most amazing thing ever for him to do that. And then he goes to New York and they're, and they postponed the playoffs and he goes and throws out the first pitch. The pressure on this first pitch.


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[Assistant] There's not a Superbowl. There's not, uh, any sports. There's not a World Series. There's nothing that's as important as this first pitch.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's nothing, dude. I mean, you can't, there ain't a Notre Dame player that knows what that feels like. There's no sports are sports. No one cares. In the grand scheme of things, who cares? It's a game.


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[Assistant] This pitch. I mean, that's what's so crazy, dude. This pitch is...


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[Assistant] The biggest, most clutch over Jordan's sick game, all the Jordan shots. It's unbelievable that a pitch that doesn't count is the most important possible sports moment in the history of all of sports.


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[Assistant] And if someone doesn't remember it, I mean, I don't know if, if they're young, they might think that seems I'm being over, like that's kind of crazy to think like.


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[Assistant] But this at that moment, it happened in New York. It happened.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, it's like, dude if he bounces that...


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[Assistant] I mean, look, in the grand scheme of things, I don't, it's not like the world's gonna be different if he bounces it. In the, in the, nothing's gonna be different.


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[Assistant] And you know, when you really think about it, nothing can happen. It's, it's a non baseball guy throwing, or he played baseball, I think, or something. But it's, and yeah, not an athlete. Got a lot of stuff on his mind. Fair to say. He's got some busy days. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And so nothing's, but the idea, the idea that they, that he did that is remarkable. It's remarkable to throw that strike from back there. The whole world's watching the whole world. This isn't a regular game.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's the first game back, world series game, not even playoff, right? World series. But Arizona won, actually. Yep, they did in seven. The Yankees, the Yankees couldn't even step up to it. How much better would the story be if the Yankees would have won? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] But in that moment, dude, I just don't, I just don't know who's been under that pressure. Cause it's, he's not pitching.


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[Assistant] He's not, I mean, he obviously can throw a ball, but he's not pitching, but it's, he's at least an athlete enough that, you know.


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[Assistant] That's the thing that we were never putting her in a situation to drive. I mean, she was...


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[Assistant] Yeah. They make a movie about it. What movie? Oh, you don't watch the movie. You're like, how did that team, you go look up? How did they end up? Coach got fired immediately right after. Oh really? The next day, right? I mean, I think that day, I think that night he got fired and the news came out that day, the next day. So I mean, yeah, they're not going to.


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[Assistant] They're, they're not, that'd be, it would be a movie needs to be focused on her. And maybe she should just make it about the SEC, her, the women's soccer team that actually was really good. I think this, this is my most clutch, you know, obviously is this Bush. I always think about it. I've watched it. I'll go back and watch it every now and again.


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[Assistant] It's just such a good pitch. I mean, just the amount of pressure that you're under.


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[Assistant] I was living in New York when this happened.


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[Assistant] Did you see it? No, I was at home. Laura was probably working in the city then.


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[Assistant] I don't think she could have seen it. I remember it coming on the news and I remember then watching the news and it happening.


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[Assistant] But I was in, and then we watched and I called Laura and Laura was.


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[Assistant] Working so, but Laura couldn't see, I don't think she could see the Hudson River from her building.


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[Assistant] But him landing that plane, I mean, yeah, like that's the thing is like clutch is like these clutch performances, everybody's going to think about sports. It's like, it's just, that's life or death. These are all more important than sports. And you know, I mean, people are going to die and he's got to land this plane and then just seize the river.


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[Assistant] I think, uh, Joe List, very funny comedian, I think he has an album out right now, just came out. Uh, he, he did, uh,


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[Assistant] Joe, uh, met a girl, like he was at a bar near there. Didn't see it, but later that night, maybe he was at a bar.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's where the 10,000 hours. Yep. That's there. There's a book about that. And I've read that book. I read some of it, not all of it.


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[Assistant] Their 10,000 hours was they, they played at like a restaurant or bar fair. It was something. They just were in the back. No one listened to them. No one cared. And they, but that's where they played over and over and over again. That's where they got so good.


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[Assistant] That's always interesting to see. You know, I'd be curious if being listeners, have you seen anybody perform that became huge, but you saw them.


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[Assistant] I did not like when they were nothing. Uh, like I've had people I've talked to that, uh,


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[Assistant] Maybe in Seinfeld, but maybe Kevin James. At a club, no one knows him. And then, you know, then it becomes this huge person.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you put your time in. You do it over and over again. That's what I always do with comedy. That's why New York is...


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[Assistant] I think the best comics come out of New York. We're doing comedy every single night.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I don't know if you're thinking about it as much when you're in it. Yeah.


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[Assistant] So, you, when you see people that you're like, this is different.


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[Assistant] I mean maybe when I saw Burr and that's why I kind of followed Burr around or like kind of watched him closer is I could tell this guy is something different. He's really really good. And so, but I don't know how much you're thinking about that.


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[Assistant] So I don't know if you're always like, you can tell you kind of just go to the guys that are good. Yeah. And you're trying to learn from those guys.


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[Assistant] But I mean, that's why those guys in New York, I mean, that, that, that's why I think anybody that starts in, is in New York, I don't think can, no one can.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that they had in there. I do think there's, there's like, do they have it? Do they have, you know, there was people talk about it. You have it, whatever it is. Do you have it? Do you, you know, uh, I said that about you.


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[Assistant] Why I am, I mean I'm one of the greatest, the greatest average American that's ever lived. So obviously you would feel that. No. Uh, yeah. Well, when I went to Burr's and Patrice's thing was that I could feel the audience.


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[Assistant] Just be like, what is, who was that? Like just be, when Burr performed and they, they go, is HBO one night stand? You can go watch that and he's doing a half hour and you could feel the audience just go like, what?


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[Assistant] What was that? Who's that guy? Like, I mean, they just took him, you know, they're having a talk to everybody, like that was something, right? Like you're, you're a part of a moment. You know, that'd almost be like, has anybody been a part of a moment? Has any listener?


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[Assistant] Have you ever been a part of something big like, you know, if you're on that plane or if you were on where you had a game and you're like, I saw this.


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[Assistant] Uh, my brother-in-law, Joey, he left. A lot of people left. And he was on the bridge walking back and just heard the roar. All the people that missed it. And I feel like you know that's gonna be big. Don't you think?


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah, could there be something that, you know.


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[Assistant] You know, Laura, did Laura text you about the 9-inch nail thing? Like, so 9-inch nails when they performed, I think it might have been Woodstock where they had all the mud on them. You know that? Uh-uh. I think they performed, it was pouring down rain.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Type in Nine Inch Nails. But they, so like that's uh, like iconic. We went to the, didn't they have the guitar in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame or something? They had their outfit that they were wearing. And so like they performed and it was so muddy.


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[Assistant] And they just got so, you know, like they could have not performed. It was like too muddy. It was like raining. It was- That looks like he was trying. So many things. I don't think they were though. I don't think there, it was like-


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[Assistant] That's awesome. But that's a huge, that's a, that is a clutch performance. And that's interesting to be, you know, cause I would imagine a lot of clutch performance, you don't know you're getting in them. It's not like you know they're happening.


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[Assistant] And then that guy just got pulled up. That's wild, dude. How's that like the movie, uh, the Wahlberg movie where he's a rock singer with Jennifer Aniston, the rock, not the rock.


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[Assistant] He is, he gets on a, they pull him out of the crowd. Really? And he was singing in a cover band. That's like Journey. I mean Journey's the guy, the guy that sings for Journey now.


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[Assistant] Uh, he was, he's in a, he was in a cover band in like Thailand.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was Asian. And then, uh, and now sings for Journey. And kills it. Rockstar with Mark Wahlberg. I'd never heard of them.


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[Assistant] It's when I'll watch if it's on. I feel like someone's gonna be like, that movie stinks. I thought I heard it stunk. And I mean, I, it's one of my favorite movies. It's a good cast.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's weirdly about Mark Wahlberg. Nate wrote it. In the, I think the book would be, this would be based on a true story. The movie's based on the book, which is about Mark Wahlberg and Jennifer Aniston. Take, what if they did a movie together?


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[Assistant] And he just climbs up if you're just listening. And it's four stories and he's jumping from balcony to balcony. Uh, and there's someone at the top.


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[Assistant] He's, yeah, he's not, where was this at? This was in France. Yeah. And then they got him. What's crazy is there's a family next to him that you're like, yeah, why don't you get it? What if they would have grabbed him right before you did it?


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[Assistant] That would be like how much the moment would have been ruined if like, cause the baby's trying to come over. I mean, four years old, dude, I just think about your Harper's eight. I mean, when she was four, could she hang?


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[Assistant] Well, I think they were trying to throw it to another guy. Yea, it kind of intercepted that guy. Yea, they were trying to throw the bat. I don't know where the baby came from.


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[Assistant] There's, there's another kid, there's another guy standing there that's like, that clearly doesn't look like he's prepared to catch this baby.


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[Assistant] And then she just, I mean, in that heat of the moment, that guy has to run in and he barely gets the baby. The literal heat of the moment. Yeah. Like they, there wasn't like, give me a second, throw the baby one second. It was like, throw the baby. They just, she's, you know, threw the baby. So that guy, the fact that he came in.


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[Assistant] And so they always go to, you know, how's the family not see this coming? Cause you can't imagine.


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[Assistant] Your kid is the one that would do this horrible thing. So there's, even if there's signs, Jeffrey Dahmer, uh, they interviewed his dad.


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[Assistant] They talked to the dad and he was like, did he do anything? They're like, I mean he used to kill cats and stuff.


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[Assistant] And the dad's like, the sixties, I don't know, kids were killing cats. You know, it's, it's just like a rough dad that it wasn't.


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[Assistant] It wasn't like he lived in this nice neighborhood and he was doing, and he's the only kid killing cats. I think he was in a rougher neighborhood and then it was like kids were being crazy and they, so there's, when you go back and look and point the stuff out, you're like, yeah, dude, that's.


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[Assistant] Straight up what happened. But people get mad at these parents. And you're like, why would they ever imagine? No one could ever imagine it. You could never imagine it.


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[Assistant] I thought flipside you were going to say, I thought flipside would have been that the kid did goes, yeah, he used to kill, he killed my mom. That's true. That would have been the flipside. Is that not the flipside?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a, that's a fun, yeah. Yeah, those moments are fun where the, the video, yeah, these kids, I mean, now that's a real, it's a sport. Right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what's some, uh, uh, here's a board ones or you have.


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[Assistant] It's like the situation made it. Like her wearing that is better than a dress.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Yeah, that is an unbelievable.


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[Assistant] Great. Clutch. Hold on, hold on. Before you go. There was something I was to say, uh, alright, go ahead. God, what was it?


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[Assistant] What are you talking about? 3, 4? 3, 4, 4, 4 times?


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[Assistant] I don't know, man. Oh, it made me think of the four minute mile. And someone said,


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[Assistant] On, which hopefully wasn't this podcast where we talked about it.


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[Assistant] It's someone breaking the four-minute mile like it's impossible to do.


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[Assistant] And then once someone broke the four minute mile, the next week someone broke.


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[Assistant] It goes, oh, it can be done. That's pretty wild. That you just know to, it's like, oh, and then it just keeps going. You know, when does it stop? Minimum.


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[Assistant] No, Paul Pierce, when he got carried out. There's a big debate about that. And then he came back in. He played in a playoff game and they had to carry him to the back cause he got hurt. And then he runs back in and plays and dominates.


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[Assistant] And, but there's big debate that no one thinks he was, he was hurt. That's like the bloody sock game too. Flip side, flip side of the Celtic thing. By the way, these are no flip sides, by the way. It's just the same scenario. Uh.


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[Assistant] I don't know what a flip side would be. Flip side would be the argument. Flip side of that would be, I think, everybody else's lying and Paul Perry's just tearing the truth. Wouldn't that be the flip side?


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[Assistant] Yeah. Keep going. Now someone, Mr. Smart, Mr. The Secret Genius over here, apparently didn't learn about flip socks.


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[Assistant] Uh, but the bloody sock where, uh, what's his face pitching?


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[Assistant] Kurt Schilling. Kurt Schilling and his, and the son, people don't believe that sock. They think he did it? They, uh, well, obviously when you got something like this, there's gonna be a lot of conspiracies about it. But they, they don't think it was, his foot was as bad. But I mean, the blood, the blood was coming through the sock. They're just showing it on TV. You're like, he's bleeding.


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[Assistant] I remember watching that. I mean, I think the Sox and the Smithsonian or something. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. It's, uh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean the crazy, the crazy performance. Them, to come back and win that year was they were down 3-0. Is that the same year?


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[Assistant] I don't know, could be. Should be. Should have been.


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[Assistant] I remember, that was one of the first recording events I remember watching. Cause I just remember him doing this, you know.


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[Assistant] That's one of my favorite shots in golf of the Masters, where he chips it up and it rolls and then the Nike symbol. I mean, you know, it's like these, I guess it's iconic moments. Now with golf, he, uh, I don't remember what was he, he needed to make that chip, but, uh,


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[Assistant] It's like that's one, the whole day is clutch. That one shot didn't come through, but that's why I think golf is so crazy. The clutchness that you have to have is.


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[Assistant] They, uh, he, when he won that, everybody before him hit the ball in the water on 13. Everybody before that.


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[Assistant] They, it's the, it's a hard hold to read. It's either eight or nine iron for these guys. And the way the wind kind of swirls, it can feel one way, but then become another way.


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[Assistant] And so, I mean, this is the whole Tiger got a 10 on this year.


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[Assistant] It's cause you win in the water. Augustine win in the water. A lot of guys go in the water.


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[Assistant] And so for that day, Tiger's not leading in last year, or 2019 for the Masters. It's his big comeback story. He's not leading, he's in the...


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[Assistant] Uh, these other guys all have the lead, they all go in the water.


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[Assistant] This one group, I mean, I think every one of them went in the water. Three of them. All in the water. And Tiger sees that.


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[Assistant] Cause on the, on 12, the whole before it, you can see them teeing off and he sees them all go in the water. And he said, he goes.


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[Assistant] If, he goes, if Kepka, Brooks Kepka is one that went in the water. He goes, I knew he probably hit a nine iron and he didn't get it there. So it's going to be an eight. And then what Tiger knew was to go left of the sand trap and don't even try to go at that flag. They were going at this flag.


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[Assistant] And so it's like the clutchness of, you know, I guess it's like clutching is relying on our comedians.


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[Assistant] Uh, I mean the performance has gotta go good.


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[Assistant] I think when all the shows that you do, when you go do Late Night, they all have to go good.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's gotta go that good to, you just gotta be that different and unique. I don't, you know. I mean that's what I, I do wonder if, uh.


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[Assistant] Like, do comics have, do we have a, is there something in us? Cause there's gotta be some kind of, some gene, you know. It's either, what has to happen, like we said, is,


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[Assistant] You're, you have to not think about what's happening basically. So that's why sometimes like that guy climbing up that building.


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[Assistant] Is if you ask that guy to climb up the building, I mean, he probably could, he obviously could, but if you asked him to climb it with no circumstances, he would probably be super nervous to do it. But.


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[Assistant] He's not even thinking, he's just thinking, I gotta get to that kid. And so I think it's like, you gotta have those moments where, you know, I feel in common, you could have.


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[Assistant] I don't, like, I would think. He did crowd work, right? He did, uh, some, but you're at Madison Square Garden in the round. Boy, you're putting, I could see like, uh, there's stuff that happens. This new special, we have stuff happen and that, that is probably going to be in there. Uh, but I could see with him.


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[Assistant] My moment would have been, with this special, after this first night we taped, because it was outside, I did 44 minutes. The second show, I have to do an hour.


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[Assistant] First show you go, we got it. Tennessee kid was like, we got it, relax, go have fun. Maybe that's when you can add lips and stuff. Cause you're like, we got it. And this one was, we don't. Hey, we don't have it. I mean, this is the first thing I ever did where they, they go, we don't. You're unbelievably short.


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[Assistant] You know, I mean, it's gotta be at least 57 to 60 minutes and we're 13 minutes short, which is a lot. It's a fourth of the show.


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[Assistant] There's just a lot of things people are pulling on you. They did pretty good. Laura does very good about kinda keeping...


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[Assistant] But no one bothers me, but it's not that anybody's asking for stuff.


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[Assistant] It's that you want to go talk to everybody. Right. And so you're kind of going over there and then you got to go back and.


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[Assistant] You're, you know, you always feel bad if you're like, I gotta walk away, but you just...


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[Assistant] Now, like, my family goes, they know, and you're like, I'm gonna just walk away. And Laura is really good to be. If I walked away, no one would ever think it's rude. I mean, she would be like, no, he's got, you know. There's stuff like that that I do think. I sometimes, you can have too much going on.


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[Assistant] Cause you won't take it, your show is serious cause you think, I've done comedy thousands of times. So I can go up and talk and do these shows. And so I won't take it as serious.


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[Assistant] And I've actually thought about that recently when I'm going to try to, uh,


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[Assistant] Starting this year to get a better routine. So when I'm doing these theaters to mentally be more into what's happening, like to have my, you know, have a time where my phone goes away, everything goes away. There's no contact to me because I want to be more.


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[Assistant] Is, is my plan is to do something that builds some kind of routine up. Cause I can get too loose.


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[Assistant] And you don't, and you're like, I was talking to people, I'm on the phone, I gotta go on stage. There's, I used to play, I mean, I had videos, I'd be playing a video game and just walk on stage. Cause you, there's something about that you're like, that's fun to do. And it's like, I can do that. I always think it's fun to be sitting, I'm alone.


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[Assistant] Playing a video game and now I'm in front of 2,000 people.


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[Assistant] And like that, and that's in within a matter of eight seconds. So I do, I always liked that idea of doing that, but I think it hurts because I don't think you're.


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[Assistant] You know, cause this is comics, you feel stupid. That same thing that we talked about, you feel someone's like, why'd you act so crazy, man? Comics had that too, if you like.


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[Assistant] I'm going to take this serious comment. You just picture, I picture Bobby Kelly.


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[Assistant] All these New York comics being like, you're a dumb comic.


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[Assistant] You tell your dumb jokes, get up there and go tell your stupid jokes. You be funny, but you gotta be, oh, you gotta go prepare. Like you're doing Shakespeare up there. Like you have that going on in your head. So you end up never doing that attitude.


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[Assistant] You gotta have a little bit of that. You can't be taking your stuff as serious. That's why no comics really call themselves artists. But I mean, it is an art.


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[Assistant] What we're doing, making people laugh is technically the hardest thing to do. To move someone's not that hard.


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[Assistant] I can tell you a sad story, I can make you cry. But to make someone laugh, it's hard to make someone laugh.


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[Assistant] They don't just voluntarily laugh, you gotta really, it's a bunch of strangers.


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[Assistant] So it's like, you do have to figure something out, you know, but I think when you're, yeah, when you're in it, it's just different. All right. Is that, is there-


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[Assistant] I thought they've all been fun, but alright. He goes, uh, get him a downer.


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[Assistant] Well, the way you set it up is like Dave Johnson singing and putting the Ryder Cup. I was thinking, oh, this is a golfer. Dave Johnson's a perfect golf name.


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[Assistant] The 12 foot putt, probably downhill. He's wearing jeans. Looks like he has borderline crocs on. Yep. Yep.


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[Assistant] Maybe 10,000 people, I don't know. He's lining up the shot. A lot of people. Lines up the putt. Everybody gets quiet. 12 feet.


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[Assistant] I mean he's got the full pressure of everybody on it. Swings for the putt.


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[Assistant] Drills it. Drills it. Does the Tiger Woods fist pop? Yea.


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[Assistant] That's gotta feel awesome. I mean that's 10,000 people. Rory in front of everybody. If you miss it, the moment is unbelievable. Can't do that ever again because of COVID. Those moments are gone. Will we ever have an exciting, what will be the first big moment back from COVID?


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[Assistant] Where fans are there. I bet it's golf. I bet it's golf related.


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[Assistant] Connor, I don't think they're going to let them back in Vegas. Like they're just, it's indoors. But any of them, they're indoors. Like a full crowd? Like a full crowd. What sport is it going to be? I think it's golf. Well, it's going to come around summertime probably. So what's going on in the summer? Baseball?


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[Assistant] But you're not, but it's not going to be a big moment. You have majors going on in golf. Okay. So like that would be going on. Maybe the NBA Finals. NBA Finals. If that could be happening.


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[Assistant] I bet it's golf. I bet golf is the first we hear the crowd, something tiger. And you're like, we're back baby. Mashed potatoes. Uh, all right, everybody, as always, we love you. Thank you for listening, uh, very much. Uh, go check out the Vandy coach search.


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[Assistant] Clark Lee, Notre Dame. That's my, that's my call. I hope not, but he'd be a good hire for you guys. Uh, thank you man.


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[Assistant] Same thing. All right. Thank you guys. Uh, we are, uh, the next one we are recording early that you will hear, cause I'm going to be in California doing some outdoors and one night only tour. Go check that out. I have two shows left. San Diego, Anaheim. It's coming up. It's coming up because this comes out this week.


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[Assistant] Uh, is this week, actually I leave Friday. So this Saturday and Sunday, I will be in, uh, San Diego, Anaheim. Come see it, California. You're about to be shut down for the rest of your life. So come outside, sit in your car, watch a show and, uh, and then the next one will be prerecorded. So, uh, all right. We love you as always. Thank you.


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[Assistant] Why don't you call Nate out for some of these things? And I'm like, dude, that would be the whole show if we just, we gotta pick and choose. And then they think I purposely put in hard words for you. I don't. If anything, I scale it down.


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[Assistant] I, like I said, I got married at 48, my wife was 43, she had a very pleasant profile, because women in their 40s, are you, are you in your 40s Catherine?


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[Assistant] And I was worried about you, like, it didn't seem like it was a good time, but it was like, was it all smoothie diet, I think?


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[Assistant] It was, uh, I think the nineties and now it's been rebooted. I think they're rebooting Netflix and, uh, Ms. Frizzle, she is an older lady that helps out and tells the kids about the wife out there in the world.


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[Assistant] Well, do you guys think that's accurate? Yeah, okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So I went and looked up this clip. We've been talking about this. Did you suffer for that? And sure enough, there's a, there's a scene where Ted just keeps saying plan over and over. It just loses its meaning. They talk about this.


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[Assistant] Alright, so Tennessee is called the Volunteer State. Do you know why? Because we volunteer.


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[Assistant] During the Mexican-American War in 1846, President James K. Polk


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[Assistant] Called for 2,600 nationwide volunteers to come help. Tennessee alone sent 30,000.


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[Assistant] Cause we were upset about Davey Crockett, cause he was killed at the Alamo.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Tennessee, during the Civil War, Tennessee was the last state to join the Confederacy and the first state to be readmitted to the Union.


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[Assistant] So we were kinda unsure what we wanted to do there. Yeah, we'd go either way. East Tennessee was actually support of the Union. Okay.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in 2017, Nashville past Memphis is the largest city in Tennessee. When? 2017?


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[Assistant] On average, 83 people a day move to Nashville. 83? That's the greater metro area, that's 14 counties that they call the Nashville area.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and according to the U.S. Census, two of the fastest growing, fifteen fastest growing cities in the U.S. are here in Middle Tennessee, Murfreesboro and Franklin.


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[Assistant] The Great Smoky Mountains National Park is the most visited national park in the US. Twice as many visitors as the next one, the Grand Canyon.


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[Assistant] We went to the Smoky Mountains every year. That was our trip.


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[Assistant] This happened, kind of Bill Meade area near White Bridge Road. Two trains collided.


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[Assistant] The, uh, worst maritime disaster in US history happened.


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[Assistant] The worst maritime disaster in US history happened on the Mississippi River in Memphis.


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[Assistant] Thank you, uh, they exploded, and uhm.


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[Assistant] It was overshadowed in the press because the Civil War, this happened in 1860, the Civil War had just ended and Abraham Lincoln had just been assassinated, so it hardly got any coverage.


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[Assistant] So where was this at? The Mississippi River near Memphis. And... The Sultana was the name of the boat.


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[Assistant] Of course, Nashville is the capital of country music. Uh, the birthplace of country music was actually in Bristol, Tennessee. That's where it got started. Bill Street, Memphis is the birthplace of the blues. Uh, yeaah. And, what are you laughing at?


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[Assistant] Graceland in Memphis is the second most visited home in the country next to the White House.


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[Assistant] Do you want to guess the largest employer in Tennessee?


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[Assistant] Uh, FedEx in Memphis is number one.


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[Assistant] She's here! She's here, and she's like, wooo! Uh, the Bellwitch Cave you can still go to. Take tours.


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[Assistant] When I was a kid, they'd say go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say, bell witch, bell witch, bell witch.


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[Assistant] Here's something that were born in Tennessee, as you might not know. Bill Belichick?


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[Assistant] His dad coached at Vanderbilt and he was born here when his dad was coaching.


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[Assistant] I think so. Alright. Uh, the Allman Brothers. They're here tonight. The Allman Sister.


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[Assistant] Hey, listen to that voice. Kathy Bates? Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Megan Fox? Really?


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[Assistant] Alright. So, those people were just born here in the movie. Who do you guys think is the most famous Tennessean of all time?


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[Assistant] And I'm, I'm not talking about like his, let's talk last hundred years. Andrew Jackson's on the $20 bill. He's very famous, but let's say the last hundred years.


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[Assistant] So if we did a Mount Rushmore then of Tennesseans, Dolly, Dolly the East, Elvis the West, Taylor


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[Assistant] Alright, so Tennessee. The, uh, state's got its name. It's derived from a Cherokee word that means Tennessee.


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[Assistant] What was it from? What? 10-he-see? 10-I-see. 10-I-see? T-A-N-A-S-I


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[Assistant] How do you map that out? Huh? How do you map that out? It's not like you have GPS. I mean, somebody just had to draw it and guess.


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[Assistant] Uh, there have been four capitals of Tennessee. Nashville, Knoxville, Murfreesboro, and for one day, Kingston. Oh wow. What happened?


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[Assistant] Uh, Governor of Tennessee is Bill Lee. He's also the owner of Lee Company.


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[Assistant] So Andrew Jackson. So three and a half.


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[Assistant] He's the only person in history to hold every major elected office


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[Assistant] City Councilman, the major one. City Councilman, Mayor, State Representative, State Senator, Governor.


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[Assistant] U.S. Representative, U.S. Senator, Vice President, President.


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[Assistant] So Andrew Jackson's buried at the Hermitage, James K. Polk's buried at the Tennessee State Capitol here in Nashville, Andrew Johnson's buried in Greenville, Tennessee.


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[Assistant] 83 people moved to Nashville every day, uh, greater Nashville area.


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[Assistant] U-Haul named Tennessee the number one state in America in 2020 for people moving here.


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[Assistant] Uh, Tennessee is tied with Missouri for the most states bordering it. Eight states border Tennessee.


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[Assistant] The geographic center of Tennessee is Murfreesboro. Oh, it's right in the middle. Good job, Nate.


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[Assistant] From Memphis to Mountain City, if you drove it on I-40, it's eight hours. The northeast corner of Tennessee is 105 miles closer to Canada than it is to Memphis.


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[Assistant] The northeast corner of Tennessee is 105 miles closer to Canada than it is to Memphis.


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[Assistant] One guy at East Tennessee legislature switched sides after he got a telegram from his mother telling him to do it.


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[Assistant] The, uh, largest- What year was that? 1920, we just hit the 100 year anniversary.


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[Assistant] Uh, Glenn Jacobs, better known as the wrestler Kane, is the mayor of Knox County.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's, uh, actually been... He's actually quite handsome. He's, uh, against mask, actually. Huh? He's against wearing mask in public. Oh, he's against it. Oh, and he wore that.


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[Assistant] When did they stop doing the World Sphere? They may still be doing it for all I know.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's that. I think the stuff they bring in is from all over the country. It's kind of like all over the world.


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[Assistant] The, uh, atomic bombs used during World War II were created in Oak Ridge National Laboratory. Oh wow, that's fun.


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[Assistant] Uh, the honors course in Udawai was named the 28th best golf course in America about golf digest. What course?


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[Assistant] Uh, as far as Christian denominations, Southern Baptist number one.


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[Assistant] United Methodist number two, Catholic three, Church of Christ four. You sounded so upset.


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[Assistant] The, uh, trial of the century was held in Dayton, Tennessee, the Scopes Monkey Trial.


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[Assistant] So it was just, how close was he? He's pretty close. He's pretty close. There was a lot of the past that couldn't teach, uh, creation in school, only evolution and a biology teacher. Uh, no, I got it. You had to teach evolution, uh, creation about biology teacher was teaching evolution and they took him to trial.


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[Assistant] The, uh, largest earthquake east of the Rockies. The New Madrid earthquake. West of the Mississippi. What is it, the west of the Rockies? West of the Rockies.


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[Assistant] Occurred in the winter of 1811, 1812 in Tennessee, Real Foot Lake was formed because of this earthquake.


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[Assistant] Thank you. It's in west Tennessee, like northwest Tennessee. Oh.


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[Assistant] You got that? That's a good argument. Uhm, Preds with the Stanley Cup finals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're game six. Vandy, uh, couple World Series. The Vols won a national championship in football. Yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] Sports Illustrated had the Titans go to the Super Bowl number one.


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[Assistant] Alright, so the most, uh, embarrassing moment, I would say, in Tennessee Sports Station, besides me stealing first base. Uh, Cumberland University in Lebanon was then Cumberland College. They lost a college football game to Georgia Tech. 222 does nothing.


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[Assistant] He was the coach this year, go ahead. Well this happened in 1916. Georgia Tech's coach was George Heisman, who the Heisman's named after. Cumberland had already discontinued their football program before the season.


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[Assistant] But Georgia Tech held them to it. They said if you cancel, you gotta pay $3,000, which was a ton of money back then.


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[Assistant] And George Heisman was the head coach of the baseball team as well. He said, if you guys come down here, I'll pay you $500 to come.


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[Assistant] And his losses, they found 12 to 16 players to travel to Atlanta for this game. The score was 63 to nothing after the first quarter.


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[Assistant] It was 126 to nothing at halftime.


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[Assistant] Georgia Tech scored 32 touchdowns. Did not attempt a forward pass.


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[Assistant] It's on my website and it's, uh, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's that common that they- I'm sure they're like, if we get involved, then they could-


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[Assistant] Someone said that farmers driving tractors would do that so they could keep one hand on the wheel and have their drink and their meal.


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[Assistant] I say there's some truth to that. I'm trying to read it properly, but yet not too good because Nate takes offense at people who can read well.


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[Assistant] Do you ever see tricks that you have no idea? Yes.


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[Assistant] I would never dare try to follow him on a show. I mean, you're hard for anybody to follow. The only time I still got burned, we did a prison show.


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[Assistant] You did so well that the next day Jason took me and you couldn't make it and they all thought they were-


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[Assistant] We had to move to the overflow gym and there was almost a riot because there were so many people there to see you, but it was me.


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[Assistant] Alright, uhm, so how long have magicians been around? There are examples of magicians in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.


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[Assistant] The book of Exodus, God brought plagues on the Egyptian people, but the Egyptian magicians were matching many of the plagues. In one example, Moses and Aaron went to meet with Pharaoh.


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[Assistant] As the Lord commanded, Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh, and it became a snake.


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[Assistant] And then Pharaoh summoned his wise men and sorcerers and the Egyptian magicians and they also did the, throw their staff down and it became a snake. But Aaron's staff swallowed up their staffs.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then the Book of Acts, Simon the Sorcerer became a Christian and then


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[Assistant] Later ask the apostles if he could buy their tricks so he could lay hands on people and give them the Holy Spirit.


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[Assistant] Apostle Peter replied, may your money perish with you because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money.


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[Assistant] You have no part or share in this ministry because your heart is not right with God.


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[Assistant] That's crazy. Another word I kept reading was conjurer.


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[Assistant] Like tricks go wrong. I mean, I know you've had, like what's an example of not a dangerous, but just something that's really went wrong.


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[Assistant] Joseph was lying inside a see-through casket when he was lowered into a hole into the ground. A cement truck then poured its contents onto the casket.


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[Assistant] But tragedy struck when the coffin suddenly collapsed under the wet cement's weight.


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[Assistant] Joseph, dubbed Amazing Joe, ended up being crushed to death at the scene.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know that thing. I was about to pull up some inside edition where they did a story on it. What was his plan?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's not like he didn't, doesn't even hardly respond to it.


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[Assistant] Basically he gained notoriety because he pickpocketed Jimmy Carter's secret service agents. And he would like show him, here's your badge. And the guy would be like, give me that back. And he's like, you don't have the right to that. And the guy would then show him his badge and he, no, he already had that on him too. Like he just took everything off these guys.


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[Assistant] I thought it was interesting you said, you know, there's a perception that the people who see Bigfoot or encounter aliens, they're all rednecks and hill people. And like you just said, a lot of these people are reputable.


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[Assistant] Oh, my understanding is they found a humanoid species. They found a bunch of bones. They called them hobbits because that's the way they were shaped, but just that humans had just wiped out. So there is this other humanoid species.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I thought that, and I thought that until pretty recently. Because you just think, ehm, abominable snowman, I just think of these singular, singular kind of monsters.


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[Assistant] I mean it makes more sense to me, the idea that there's an apex predator species we don't know about.


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[Assistant] I love the idea of somebody at a Bigfoot conference and they're all like, Hey dude, reel it in a little bit. I mean, that's the way it is. That is, that's.


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[Assistant] I was going to say, is there an ethical argument to be made that maybe we shouldn't be looking for Bigfoot? I mean, obviously they don't want to be found and I don't think Bigfoot enthusiasts want.


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[Assistant] They don't really like to run, huh? They just kinda, they don't need to run.


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[Assistant] So they have no predator for them in the wild, right? They're the top of the food chain? Yeah, I imagine so. Okay.


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[Assistant] Why we don't have fiscal evidence. I mean, I mean, obviously, you know, they're elusive that they, they have all these ways of avoiding being caught. But, but let's say the, let's say tomorrow the government decides.


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[Assistant] It's now their number one priority to find a Bigfoot and they devote all the resources of the federal government, the military, they deploy the National Guard, all our technology. I mean, is it just a question of


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[Assistant] I was going to ask that. So yeah, they're, they're typically in groups. Yeah. So the ones that are, it looks all the videos that I've seen is just one. So those are just must be stragglers, but, but yeah, typically they travel and they're in groups most of the time.


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[Assistant] And he was never happier. I never seen a kid so happy when they said, yep, it's broke. And he just dove at me like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I felt horrible.


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[Assistant] Well, the good thing is we have, uh, my daughter's son, Caleb, uh, last year playing basketball, twisted his ankle. Same thing. I go, walk it off, buddy, walk it off. And he played the whole second half and then go to the hospital. Yep, it's broke. He should have stayed off of it. Gosh. Oh man.


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[Assistant] And I've had to do like Zoom calls, I've been a part of it, but I'm supposed to be there to give things out and awards and stuff like that, but very much so I have to go to England, that's almost a have to. I was Canada and stuff and invited to Australia and all this places and I didn't get to go.


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[Assistant] I don't, I didn't, I kinda go, I didn't have to go.


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[Assistant] And uh, which is not bad, but also it would have been nice to be a part of it.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't want to do another year. It's uh, it's even though I'm not traveling, it's still a lot of work to be the president. It's a lot more than I ever thought. There's something every day that you, some little problem that you gotta handle, who would ever think.


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[Assistant] About 15,000 members in 88 different countries. And so, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's the largest of, there's two, there's several magic societies, I guess, in the, in the world and stuff, but the International Brotherhood of Magicians was really one of the first organized, way back in 1922, some magician said, you know, we ought to get together and talk about this stuff. And, uh, but you know, in the very beginning,


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[Assistant] If you were the magician, you died with your secrets.


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[Assistant] Uh, you didn't want anybody to know and, and you would, it would be in your will to burn all your books and all your notes and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Like back when Houdini? Yea, yea, Houdini and Blackstone, they hated each other and they would, uh, they would hire each other's assistants, pay them a lot of money just to tell them how they were doing their stuff.


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[Assistant] That's very kind of true. That part, that part of it is true, how they stole things from each other and stuff, because it just, it wasn't shared like it was. And even when I was little, it wasn't, when I was young, getting into magic, it wasn't, you had to know a magician.


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[Assistant] And, uh, even if you had the books, you couldn't understand all of them. I mean, they, some of them are written in kind of a code-like, so you would have to have somebody go, well, that's what this is.


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[Assistant] Now the internet is, and you get, everybody just wants to share everything.


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[Assistant] Well, they get on that show, you have to tell them because then they can't, how do they know that, that they didn't guess it right? So, and there had been, there was a magician I knew, I knew of that refused to tell them and then they, they wouldn't, they weren't going to.


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[Assistant] Giving people spotlights and giving them a chance to get on the show. They make you look good no matter what. They're going to say good things. You're going to have good video. All the stuff that you need in today's world, just saying you was on Penn and Dollar.


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[Assistant] Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Uh, and I love that feeling of not knowing every trick that there is out there. I get fooled all the time. When I was young,


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[Assistant] And uh, when Nathan was even young, unfortunately, Harvey didn't buy him as much stuff because I tried to buy every trick I didn't know.


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[Assistant] I bought tricks just to find out how they were worked. And, uh, and that's definitely for any young magicians out there. It's not what you want to do. Uh, you know, if it's not now, if it's not something I'm really want to do that I think that I could do and do something with, I just assume, uh, you know, I might like to know, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, and then book, you can buy the book or you can buy a pan broach. You can just actually just buy the trick sometimes and stuff. And, uh, but in this world, everything's changed now cause of the thing. Like, you know, we had certain tricks and we called it by a certain name cause that's what you did if you bought the secret.


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[Assistant] Cause then somebody's out in the audience going to Google that and go, oh, here's what you're doing. So you, you now, you have to make up some weird name cause you, you wouldn't dare.


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[Assistant] dot org and uh, go to that uh, magician dot org and go to our website. You can see.


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[Assistant] Twenty lectures, I'm one of them, where we talk about what we were doing. We were trying to get not so many tricks.


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[Assistant] As why you do what you do or whatever, but what's happening is it's exploded and now everybody's getting on there giving away magic.


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[Assistant] And we got people giving magic away that's not their tricks and they're going, well, here's how he does this. And you know, you bought that just because I bought it from somebody. I don't have the right to explain it to the world, uh, his trick unless it's mine.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, with the magic conventions and seminars and things like that. This is one thing, when I was first


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[Assistant] Get involved in going to conventions and hanging around with a lot of other magicians. I, I thought they were all David Copperfields and Lance Burton's and.


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[Assistant] No, but most of our members are, are hobbyists. And they just love magic. They love the, there's, there's all kinds of people interested in, in magic. There's people that like the history of it, people that collect books, people that collect old tricks.


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[Assistant] And, uh, that just got this, I got this prop that was made in, you know, in 1800s and it still works and all of this stuff. And, and they're, they got their own clubs and, and those people and they like to come and we go and we have conventions and we teach and talk about the.


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[Assistant] You know, this is how you do it and this is what it is. And so we, those people, I've made a good living off people buying my tricks. And, uh, and I would say, you know, I hate to say, but a lot of part of them will probably never do it.


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[Assistant] They just like to buy it, you know, it's like, it's like when they come to see you, they want a t-shirt. They want something from you. So they went and seen you lecture to be part of it. They go, ah, I'll buy his truck.


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[Assistant] It's, uh, if I go to high school and do four shows by the third, second, third and fourth shows, you can't get anybody in the gym. They're all cutting classes and coming in there and going cause they've heard. So that's what happened at the prison. They kind of had a magic show. Well, we don't know. We don't know. And so.


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[Assistant] That group came and we were in, not the overflow, we were in a pretty good sized room, but we had a ball and they were great and the guy I picked on was awesome. And uhm, then uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, when they got me started in doing the, uh, uh, USO kind of armed forces entertainment and I kind of think, I always thought


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[Assistant] Uh, apparently on the wall in the pyramid, uh, wall there's a, what looks like guys are doing something that they, they claim is the cups and balls.


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[Assistant] Uh, picture, I don't agree with that. I think it's pull my finger.


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[Assistant] I'm sure that had to happen in some cave somewhere way before this, but, but they, they say it's the, what I've heard is recorded, I mean the, the oldest back that they can find where, where it looks like they were maybe doing some type of magic or something like that. Where it's slight a hand.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, that's easy. That's good. Most kids, the first ones are the little plastic three different color cups and stuff for you to jump in with the metal ones. I'm impressed.


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[Assistant] But, uh, cup and ball is kind of like a passage, a rite of passage things. I think as a magician, if you're going to learn sleight of hand.


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[Assistant] That's a, that's a trick. That's one of the tricks that you have to kind of master or at least play, spend time with. Cause it has so many different slights and so many, I mean, it's, it's what makes magic magic. It's the misdirection. It makes you look the wrong place. It's getting you to go with the tension. It has a surprise ending. You can, I mean, you can just do so many things with it. I personally, uh,


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[Assistant] Just in trying to do it, I now just do the cupping ball. So I've knocked it all the way down. Just the fastest working I do, uh, cause I tend to make all my tricks last really long and talk and.


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[Assistant] So I went from three cups now, I'm only using one and basically doing the same thing. There's the three, but I'm just doing it with the one cup, but I still have all the surprise endings and everything.


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[Assistant] That is the only thing that I half way collect, I have probably about


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[Assistant] Yeah, I've got some really neat ones and stuff like that though. They're really kind of cool.


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[Assistant] Uh, in somewhat, I think there's difference in magicians and sorcery and, uh, demonic and that kind of level. I believe that stuff like that can happen. And, uh, so, uh,


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[Assistant] I think that's probably exactly what had happened, but I also know I could do that trick. I could turn, uh.


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[Assistant] But, uh, cause I actually played around with the ones with the little garter snake. And, and you've seen the trick with the canes, where the, which doesn't come down with the, the spinning cane. It's a very popular trick you can get in with disappearing cane or appearing cane. But if you had a disappearing cane, uh, you could load a snake in there.


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[Assistant] They just go, wow, that, uh, that he did. But now to make, if they have a snake that eats mine, I'm in the wrong church.


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[Assistant] Again, Steven, would you? My thing on this is the word sorcerer.


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[Assistant] And, uh, it's really, and I've heard different stories. I heard that, uh,


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[Assistant] When King James, it was always, it was sorcerers, because it even tells you to beware of sorcerers, and this guy was looking for the power that came through the Holy Spirit, so he was just wanting to be something that he was not. And he thought, is this maybe a magic trick, or I don't know what he thought.


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[Assistant] But King James, what I heard was fooled by the cup and ball thing.


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[Assistant] And so when he was translating, when they were having the Bible translated.


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[Assistant] Uh, he thought that, uh, cause at the end on almost all cups and balls, you have a big, a big surprise ending in it or a bigger ball or something that can't be almost impossible to be in the cup.


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[Assistant] And so one of the, somebody told King James or something that he thinks that the guy put him under a spell, he fell asleep, or we, and then woke up and that was in there, you know, it's like something weird happened. That's King James version?


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[Assistant] So he actually potentially put the word source magician in the King James version, but it's really not the King James. It's really a sorcerer is what they were talking about. And it's someone that did potions and drugs and can do that kind of stuff and mess with people.


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[Assistant] Uh, those are the ones we'd be wearing up. The very first slide of him, guys, they were called jesters.


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[Assistant] And they were also called Fool for Christ. So they would actually work, they would actually go out and talk to kids and people and say,


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[Assistant] What these guys are doing is not real magic. They don't have, you don't have to be afraid of them. They're using sleight of hand. And then they, they would produce and do the same tricks and then show them that it was sleight of hand, that they had no powers. So that's the, that's the big difference is when you think it's real.


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[Assistant] Do you ever get accused of all the time? Yeah, yeah. I remember, uh, one of my favorite stories is.


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[Assistant] Uh, I taught a class to guys who were doing, uh, they were, uh, children pastors. So I taught them some tricks they can do in children church and some, you know, example things.


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[Assistant] One of them did it and his church freaked out. It was, uh, uh, up in Portland, Tennessee. And they were gonna, they told him, we don't, we don't need you anymore.


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[Assistant] And they were getting rid of him because he did magic and so he calls and he has a month left in church. He hires me.


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[Assistant] So it's kind of like, he don't care. So he goes, they don't like magic. So he doesn't tell me until I get there. He goes, they let you know they fired me because I did a magic trick. I go, I'm fixing to do a whole hour.


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[Assistant] And he goes, well, it's these three ladies right there. And there was, they were ladies and they had notepads and they had everything. They were ready for me. And uh, so I kind of told that story about.


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[Assistant] That it beware of sorcerers, not magicians. The real word would get pharmaceutical from pharmacy. You should beware of Walgreens before you should meet. And, and then I talked about it and we had a good time and some kids came forward and everything was great. But afterwards this lady, she came and got me and she was, I remember she was a bigger lady and she had orange hair.


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[Assistant] And so she comes rolling up there and she had this pad and she, and I don't know the verse off hand, but she read the verse, don't practice deception. And she said, you are practicing deception. And that's from the devil.


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[Assistant] And, uh, God spoke to me and I said, well, can I ask you a question? Do you dye your hair?


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[Assistant] Some do, you know, characters or something like that. Somebody that makes, again, you're trying to portray.


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[Assistant] Uh, there was a, uh, do you guys remember Doug Henning? When you were little, he was a guy that I really looked up to. He, he got into this so much that he, he thought he looked for the real magic in the world and he thought that he was trying to, he wanted to take it a step farther and get into the world of.


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[Assistant] You know, you step over and I would never want to go into or anything like that. And it really messed him up.


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[Assistant] It may be for some, but uh, not the many guys I know of, but a lot of them betray it and they want you to feel that way. They want you to think, you got to think if I'm a, if I'm going to read your mind, I want you to think that it's real.


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[Assistant] Clubs and doing a lot of things like that where you just met a lot of different people.


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[Assistant] I used to get people come up afterwards and go, wow, you're great. You're really great. I've lost my ring. Can you tell me where it is?


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[Assistant] You know, or we can't, I've even had somebody ask me, my sister's been missing. Do you think you could help?


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[Assistant] What? I can find your card, yes, but I can't find your sister. This is not, I mean, so it's, it's what the people perceive and, and there's people that really want to believe really, really bad. But I honestly think most magicians, if you're doing a trick, you know it's not real. You know what you're doing. And uh, so you're just, you're just,


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[Assistant] I didn't know that. Notre Dame. So that was really good. Alright, I'll go slower.


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[Assistant] All right, uh, you mix them up. Okay. This is, yeah, whatever. Um, and, um, no, he's going to do one of those cause he's Catholic. They know how to shuffle. Give it to Brian, the church Baptist in here. They would have been everywhere. But what happens is.


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[Assistant] That's how people think stuff happens. First of all, they think, well, the cards are all set up or whatever like this is. And then there's only way you could do a trick like this is he has to be in and on. You're not in or nothing. No. Like what I picked you. No, no, no. I don't even really know who you are that much in this group. And, uh, but.


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[Assistant] So that takes away one of the areas. So I like as a magician, I like to take away what people are thinking. So they think, well, he must have been in on it. So we know it's not. Then I let them shuffle. Just slide a card out.


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[Assistant] Don't take it all the way out, just leave it there. Yeah, that's fine. And the reason why I like this is because uhm, most people would have grabbed that card. Right? Right.


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[Assistant] Cause it's easy to grab. Yes, cause it's easy to grab and stuff like that. If you're listening at home, Aaron did not grab that car.


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[Assistant] No, no, he did not. But maybe I even wanted you to take this one. Right. So if you want, we can push it back and grab another one.


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[Assistant] See, that's all psyche. See, I already got you convinced that now you should stick with the first one.


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[Assistant] No, come on, now you're going to the way obvious one, now come on.


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[Assistant] First of all, I would have never done that. I would have never put that back and went for another one. And stuff. It just shows you how easy you are. See, first of all, because you're just trying to be polite. There's no reason to be polite to a magician. Stuff, you want to be courteous.


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[Assistant] But you should have stuck with the first one, but now you changed your mind. Now no matter what happens, he's gonna go, God, I wish I would have stuck with the first one. You go on and slide it out.


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[Assistant] And, and, and you can show them or if you want the camera or whatever. Don't let me see it. I want, I promise you, I'm not looking for you, the guys here. Put it back wherever you want and shuffle again.


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[Assistant] See, now that's another thing, because most people say, you know, what happens is when the magicians get a card back, they have to control the card. They do these little fancy shuffles and they make sure the card is right where they are. And so we've eliminated that.


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[Assistant] This is what I, this is the kind of magic that I like, that we would have taken a card and, uh,


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[Assistant] And do it. As a matter of fact, that's the first card that you was going to take. I'm pretty sure. But uhm, and the big thing is, is you don't know, uh, I need to get that, those, these cards. This is a new deck. I should have took the advertising cards out or whatever, but you don't know.


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[Assistant] Uh, how in the world have I missed that?


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[Assistant] I took, I took out too many cards. Alright, one, how do you want me to find this? Just to cut a card? Cut?


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[Assistant] You go through a lot of deco cards because, especially in Tennessee, it's so humid that if I were to do a show outside or something, I like to do, I like close up magic.


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[Assistant] That's where I got started, but of course you got to make money doing the bigger stuff. And, uh, so I got into the bigger things, but I still love my heart is still there. And if you ever seen me perform, I pick on people and I kind of, uh, get on them and stuff. I need to know their personality.


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[Assistant] Before I get them up on stage. So I always walk around and.


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[Assistant] Meet people and talk to them and show them a card trick so I can see what kind of a person they are. And I even do that when I open up for Nate. But now it's going to get harder. Are people going to start? I want to go to people's cars. No, no, but people start when they know I'm going to be there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you changed the game. It was so much better when I could just walk up and say, Hey, who's a Nate fan? If I talk to them and then go, Hey, I'm his dad. And then they just, they go, wow, really?


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[Assistant] They had no idea I'm on the show. It's before, and I love that moment.


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[Assistant] But, uh, yeaah, next, if I go out with you, it'll run that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they even, I think I can hear them talking now. I mean, towards the end they were going, cause we were going, that's his dad, his dad's walking around.


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[Assistant] I heard you're engaged, right? I am. Yeah, yeah. She got you that shirt. I can tell. She doesn't want women looking at him.


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[Assistant] I know the whole story behind that is really, really good. It was, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] He came into some small town and so like he does, you go, you go back then where it would happen, they would go to a dinner club or somebody big in the town would have them over and they would do one parlor trick and try to talk everybody into coming.


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[Assistant] And, uh, there was, uh, like a tabloid paper that was out in the advertising and right above him was an article that said some lady gave birth to a rabbit. And it was just like, you know, just like the tabloids today. And, uh, he just thought that was really funny.


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[Assistant] So he produced the rabbit out of his hat that night just to be a joke about the lady having the rabbit. And it became popular and then it just caught on. He just did it at a show. He just did it at a show one time just because of that and the news and that's what started the whole thing.


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[Assistant] Yep. I always say, no, the rabbit pees in my hat and those hats are about 500 bucks now. Rabbit is still $8.


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[Assistant] And I hope I'm getting this right. All the magicians gonna kill me if I didn't. But, uh, there is, uh, uh, his cape.


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[Assistant] Where it's handed down who was supposed to be the best magician in the world at the time.


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[Assistant] And so it was handed down to certain people and uh, Lance Burton has it now from Las Vegas. A lot of people might think Blaine or somebody else are really good, but it was, I mean, but yeah, there's a certain style of magic you needed to do to be, I mean,


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[Assistant] Uh, I think Blaine is one of the best, if not the best public guy out there right now. David Blaine.


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[Assistant] I think he, I mean, he does, uh, he makes my job easier and gets more people work. I mean, but, but the actually know what he's doing and some of the stuff that he does when he does his tricks and a live show is pretty amazing.


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[Assistant] And it's a great show. And that's what a lot of people thought he couldn't do. Uh, when he first did his first special, uh, actually, I mean, the magicians, a lot of them didn't like him at all. Cause he literally, you can go to any magic shop and do almost everything he did in that special for under 50 bucks. I mean, buy the secrets to every trick.


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[Assistant] Because he was just doing slightly, but it was just the way he did it. He changed everything. He took the camera off the magician and put it on people. Yeaah. And got the action, so that caught on. But then he learned.


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[Assistant] And by the second, third and fourth threshold, he, he's a, he's a great, he's a great magician. He's learned from the best. I think he does the trick that kills me.


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[Assistant] Is, uh, that he comes out and he has somebody show his mouth shut. I mean, he's really doing it. He shows his mouth shut, has a card selected sign, sets it down.


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[Assistant] And then he cuts that open and out comes his mouth with that sign card. I mean that's insane. That's insane.


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[Assistant] Which would have been some of these guys, Houdini and some of these guys would have, Houdini would have loved David Blaine, I think. And Chris Angel and those guys, they would have, uh.


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[Assistant] I've been very impressed. I think today if these guys went and saw the shows that was happening and what Copperfield's doing and stuff, they'd be blown away. They would not have a clue how they did any of this stuff.


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[Assistant] The bigger show, right. But he could do, he could do slightly, I've seen him do it and he does a decent job at it.


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[Assistant] It used to be really separated. Now the sleight of hand is more popular. If you go to Europe, all the big shows now are close up shows where you go and it's 50 to 110 at the most people. And, uh, they're all sitting around the table and, and I mean, you couldn't do that 20 years ago, but now people will accept that stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, the house of cards here in Nashville, Tennessee. Yep. You see close up magic and, and the parlor, the kind of magic I do, uh, which is not the big stage. I don't have to hire girls and big boxes and stuff and big enough to be seen. Yeah. And, uh, you could do on stage.


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[Assistant] People can see it. But I think Houdini and Blaine were probably a lot alike. Houdini had a whole magic show that he did before he started doing the escapes. And then he would do the upside down straight jacket to get everybody's attention in that town.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, I think, uh, I met a guy named Di Vernon that, that once he has a trick out and I used to do it and, uh, it's called the trick that fooled Houdini.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Yeaah, I can show you that, I know it. Yeaah. Wanna see the trick?


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[Assistant] And this would normally be signed or something so you know it's different. So he puts it into the deck.


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[Assistant] And without doing anything, it just comes right back to the top. And it would be, but that was the trick and all the magicians out there, anybody watching this, they know exactly what I did, but I did it the same way that this guy did the full Houdini.


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[Assistant] And Houdini did just what every magician does today when they get fooled by a guy. Like if I'm sitting there and some kid comes up to me and today the young kids are amazing. If they show me a trick that just blows me away, I do exactly what Houdini did and all of them. I go, that is fantastic. I love it. Come over here and show this guy. He wants to see it.


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[Assistant] And I'm only doing it because I want to see it again from a different angle and now I might have him show 20 people. No, you better show this guy. I want to make sure he knows until I figure it out. And that was a trick that Houdini did that and he saw it like 10 times in a row and just walked away angry. He had no idea what the guy was doing.


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[Assistant] And it was that guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I met him in the 80s and he was probably 80 then when I met him.


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[Assistant] He didn't, I didn't get to talk to me about that.


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[Assistant] Uh, he wasn't liked. Magicians didn't like each other back then. Yeah. Uh, cause there was a really hard competition. I don't think it's so, I think they still have problems. I think, you know, probably some of the Vegas guys don't get along that good. Uh, but.


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[Assistant] I think the better you are, just like I think in comedy, when you're really good, you don't really worry about.


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[Assistant] I'm not worried about another guy that's good. I'm not intimidated. I think there could be two good comedians and there could be two good magicians. I don't need to worry.


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[Assistant] Or, or something. And so, I mean, so for me, yeah, I, I, I've been very blessed and, and this is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and he was a member of the International Brotherhood of Magicians, which is what this is, and he wanted some changes and stuff and...


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[Assistant] Uh, it goes back again. They didn't, people didn't like him. Yeah. Cause he thought he was, he was the big name out there. Yeah. So he was my competition. So they didn't let him get his way and stuff. So he goes, well, I'll just start my own.


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[Assistant] So they broke off and he started the Society of American Magicians, which I'm also a member of. And it is mainly, it's mostly only in America.


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[Assistant] But Houdini was their first president and that's the, that's the cool thing that they get to brag about that he did it and we kicked him out. We didn't want him. We passed up on Houdini. So he just started, he just went and got his own. I start my own society.


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[Assistant] That's the truth, but that's not the Tony Curtis version.


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[Assistant] Was that a movie? Yeah, then the very first movie that they ever made about who Tony Curtis played Houdini and he died in the water chain.


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[Assistant] So he drowned and so for, it's still a very popular myth that people think today, they, I mean, for a long time people thought, especially people my age, cause we saw the movie. So we think, yeah, he died, uh, in the chamber and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Maybe 10 days after that of an appendicitis because he got punched in the stomach. Yeah. Yeah. And that part is all true. And he would do that. But he would allow people where he could make his stomach so tight, he could take a punch and, uh,


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[Assistant] So some kid comes up before the show and said, I heard you could take a punch. And this kid, he goes, can I do it? And he goes, yeah. And he stands up and the kid hits him and he wasn't ready.


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[Assistant] He just threw it up and the kid just pout, pouted him right in the side and it burst his appendix. And of course he didn't know at that time what had happened, but he, but he actually went, no, no, I wasn't ready. Okay. And he let the kid, guy hit him again.


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[Assistant] I mean that's crazy, that that happened, but uh, How old was he when he died?


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[Assistant] And I think I've seen David Blaine do that. That he's allowed somebody, he took a punch from a professional boxer.


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[Assistant] Just let him hitting hard as he could. Crazy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it was a different world. Like, like the scape out of a, he would get in a, one of my favorite stories, he'd get in like in a milk thing where they carried milk jug metal. He would get it and they'd fill it with water and lock it in.


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[Assistant] Like how big of a milk? Yeah, I mean, it's, uh, four and a half feet tall. Like just a big metal milk thing and they would put him in it and lock it, but they were covered up with a curtain.


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[Assistant] And Houdini, I mean, Houdini couldn't hold his breath like blank. He didn't hold it for five minutes or maybe five minutes, but he could get out in a minute and a half. But to get out in a minute and a half, it's not very good.


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[Assistant] So he actually would get out and read the paper and sit back there and they would have a live band play music and people are all going, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, he's already out. He's been out and he just, it was all showmen that they come out with today.


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[Assistant] You need to get out in 30 seconds because American Got Talent is going to go on to the next thing. They're going to buzz you. But back then you drug everything out.


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[Assistant] And later on, and Penn and Teller became those people that realized that sometimes magic is just as good to show it.