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[Assistant] Or the next year, where I want to go. That's it.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they interview you, they say, we need you for, you know, five sessions, four hours each. And then afterwards they say, you know, God, when you started talking about your childhood and about your father and this and that,


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[Assistant] I found this fascinating. Can we talk some more about that? Can we do a whole session just on that? Then they ask. Because they find something that you said.


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[Assistant] They didn't think about it ahead of time, or they didn't know. And, uh,


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[Assistant] Neither did I. You know, because I never think about those things except then when someone drills down on it, I never paid much attention to it and never mentioned it to anyone. And I said, it's fascinating. Your father was an alcoholic. I said, well, they didn't really call it that in Austria. I said, they just said to someone that got drunk once a week and came home and


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[Assistant] So, uh, but it's not by nature that I even think about that, or that I think about it.


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[Assistant] In a negative way. Right. I mean, I think about him in a positive way because hell, if he wouldn't have treated me the way he did, I would have stayed there.


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[Assistant] Shit, imagine that, me having to stay in Austria, and I would have been one of the regular guys over there, which is fine for them, but I mean, it's not for me. I had kind of like, I was very ambitious and had big plans, so that,


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[Assistant] Upbringing kind of made me realize I got to get away from home. I got to escape to America.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean, he would beat us and he would, you know, take off his belt and...


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[Assistant] And, uh, hit us with the belt or with the branches. In other words, there would be different degrees of punishments and all that stuff. But the next day we laughed about it.


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[Assistant] I mean, not he, but my brother and I, we laughed about it.


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[Assistant] I said, how much did you hurt with the, with the, when he made the, when he made the branches wet?


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[Assistant] That really hurt. I said my ass is still sore. Look at the, the, the lines I have on my ass. And my brother says, yeah, but the belt, what do you think? The belt buckle. He, he caught me on my foyer in a belt buckle. You know, so the people were like comparing who had more kind of a, you know, leftovers. And as far as, you know, kind of marks and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because, I mean, uh, I think that Reg Park...


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[Assistant] In the factory town, just like Graz was, where I grew up.


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[Assistant] You know, he found a bodybuilding gym where he worked out some dungeon. And he worked out there, and hours and hours every day, sweating. And uhm, that's all he had. And that's all he thought about.


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[Assistant] Was just working out. His father was telling him he has to be a businessman. His mother said that he has to be a nice man and be successful. And uhm, you know, he just, I think his mother was Jewish. And his father was not.


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[Assistant] I think that's what it was, you see. And, uh, so anyway, she was a wonderful woman. I mean, we visited her later on when I became a champion. We went up to visit them and to see where it all began in Leeds.


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[Assistant] And, uh, uh, his father was not alive anymore.


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[Assistant] But his mother was. And so I met her, wonderful, wonderful woman. And, uh, so it was really great to see that he just through struggle and believing in himself, you know, kind of hours and hours of working out, he made it, became Mr. Great Britain.


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[Assistant] He became the Britain's strongest man, he was bench pressing 500 pounds, which was the record in Europe at that time, and he was squaring


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[Assistant] With 600 pounds and deadlifting at tremendous weights and all that stuff. So I admired all this, the strength and all that stuff. So I said to myself, if he can do that hours and hours a day, then that's exactly what I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna go and put the hours into it. And uhm,


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[Assistant] And off we went. And trained and trained and trained. And then things happened.


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[Assistant] In 1962, just when I started working out, I just started working out and lifting weights. And, uh, there was this magazine in a store.


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[Assistant] That had Reg Park on the cover. And it was basically him as a Hercules. Just enormous.


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[Assistant] Not like the regular bodybuilders, you know, that were kind of ripped and all this, but he had this wide shoulders and this huge lats and big thighs and all this, and he was Hercules. He was this, the undercover Hercules, and he said, this is how Mr. Universe became Hercules.


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[Assistant] And so, it actually has very little in there about how it became Hercules.


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[Assistant] Talk more about how did he become Mr. Universe? How did he train?


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[Assistant] And so I copied this. I mean, I couldn't copy everything because I didn't have certain machines. Like I didn't have a pulley machine and I didn't have a leg extension machine. I didn't have a calf machine. I didn't have a leg curl machine. I didn't have any of that. I was just training in a weightlifting club.


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[Assistant] And we were not even allowed to do bodybuilding exercises. So we had to kind of like do first our regular weightlifting.


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[Assistant] And then five sets of, of jerks and then five sets of presses and five sets of snatch and all the Olympic lifting movements.


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[Assistant] And did a deadlift and shoulder shrugs, you know, they had to pull up to get the strength in the shoulders and traps. After we did all that, then we were allowed to go to the chin-up bar and to do chin-ups. And to do some curls. And to do some triceps extensions though.


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[Assistant] So most of the bodybuilding itself, I was actually doing at home. In the weightlifting club, I was doing mostly the weightlifting and the power lifting, bench press, deadlift, squats. And in those days, there was some


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[Assistant] Powerlifting competitions where the three disciplines were bench press, uh, squat and curl. Oh. They call it a cheating curl. Okay. So you pick up in the bar with the 20, with the 45 pound plates on the outside.


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[Assistant] And you will be crawling that. As a matter of fact, when I used to go to England,


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[Assistant] Because I got so good at that because it was part of the powerlifting championship. So I did that out on stage.


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[Assistant] Before I was posing. Before I was doing my posing exhibition.


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[Assistant] So, let's say, when I was Mr. Universe, they invited me to England to pose at the Mr. Great Britain competition, and beforehand, they would have me do deadlifts and some curls.


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[Assistant] And I would be doing with 275. I remember a few reps curls. And, uh, and people loved all that. And that was deadlifting, uh, 650 pounds or so.


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[Assistant] Then later on when I was working out with Franco over here, I got all the way up to seven. Ten.


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[Assistant] And it was really great because it said three sets of incline press.


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[Assistant] Well, he had a rack, so he could take it off the rack and do incline braids. I didn't have a rack. So we had to kind of put a board against the wall and then clean the weight and then fall back.


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[Assistant] And, uh, so I trained, I did this leg workout and this calf workout and all that stuff. But then when I met him.


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[Assistant] So I was 19 years old when I met him for the first time.


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[Assistant] And he came over to England from South Africa because he lived in South Africa, even though he was British, but he married a woman, uh, from South Africa. And so he came periodically to England from South Africa and one day,


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[Assistant] I was staying at my friend's house, Wag Bennett, and Reg Park came to visit. He just arrived at 10 o'clock at night from South Africa, and then at 1 o'clock in the morning he came over to the house to work out, because here's a gym down below. A public gym.


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[Assistant] So there goes the dungeon. And, uh, so Reg came over and there I met Reg Park, my island for the first time. I was 19 years old and, uh, I just won second in the Mr. Universe contest, literally like just two months before.


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[Assistant] And uhm, I met him, I worked out with him at one in the morning. And it was like a dream come true. You can imagine being a media idol, right? And so then that's when he invited me and he said, listen, this year,


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[Assistant] He says you have to, this coming year you have to win the Mr. Universe contest.


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[Assistant] He says, I want it with the age of 23 or whatever he was. He says, uh, you could be the youngest Mr. Universe ever with the age of 20. He says, if you win.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna bring you down to South Africa. And eh, you do a bunch of posing exhibitions for me. Make some money.


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[Assistant] You know, I took this, I mean, uh, uh, essentially what Reg Park said, that I could win the Mr. Universe. So that means I could win.


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[Assistant] And so I was absolutely convinced that I'm going to win. It's my year.


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[Assistant] And I trained like hours and hours and hours every day.


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[Assistant] And, uh, sure enough, I won Mr. Universe with the age of 20. And, uh, I went down to South Africa.


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[Assistant] That following December, three months later, and, uh, did a bunch of posing exhibitions and all that stuff. And he took me around South Africa. It was like fantastic. And, uh, and that's what led us to then


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[Assistant] The judges be mixed, blacks, whites, colored. In South Africa, there's a different category. There's colored people and then there's black people. Got it. You know, and then there's Asian people and there's Indian people. So there was five or six categories at that time.


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[Assistant] There will be no competition with the IFBB if it is not mixed.


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[Assistant] Depends to that. And there was a guy by the name of Dr. Kornhof.


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[Assistant] And he was a very open-minded character. Because he, whenever I went down for Rage Park to South Africa,


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[Assistant] That Dr. Kornhoff was the minister of mining, of sports, and of immigration.


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[Assistant] He told me that I have to go to the down ships and go to the black areas and also pose.


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[Assistant] And so they brought me in with cages, like an animal.


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[Assistant] That someone came in from the outside and visited them. They were drunk. They were celebrating and screaming. Nothing was safe.


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[Assistant] And they brought mainly those cages so that not the ice they protected. Bottles were flying, everything. Not to hurt me. No one was trying to hurt me. It was just celebrating. They were just so excited about someone from the outside coming in and visiting them. And paying attention to them.


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[Assistant] I mean it was like 11 o'clock at night we would go to these places. At one in the morning.


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[Assistant] Uh, was responsible for getting me down to the South African. Eventually we there at the Mr. Olympia contest is Dr. Kornoff and, uh, helped us.


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[Assistant] To bring everyone together, and we had in Pretoria, in the capital of South Africa, we had the missed Olympia in 1975, where a rolling stone came down.


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[Assistant] And that was kind of covering it. They wanted to do a cover story.


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[Assistant] Uh, which didn't end up being a cover story because Jimmy Carter won Super Tuesday.


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[Assistant] And so he won in 1976 several states in a row and became kind of like the guy.


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[Assistant] to win the democratic convention and eventually become president of the United States. So he, they decided that there was enough of a news event.


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[Assistant] So it was, it was all good. It was totally fair. There was a much bigger deal than I was. And, uh, even though I like being on the cover, I remember that it is what happens every so often. When you, when you start, they promise you cover. Then no one ever can promise you cover.


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[Assistant] You can say we worked hard to get the other cover. Like for instance, there was Time Magazine.


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[Assistant] And Newsweek, they had me when, when Pumping Island came out. And I think it was, uh, was it 77 or 76? Um, when Gary Gilmore was shot and executed in Utah.


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[Assistant] Kind of a sensation in America, like a guy with muscles that actually can talk. So that was the sensation, right? So it's a, because nobody would ever hire the publicist until that time, and no one wanted to talk to the press. Because they would always fuck up somehow.


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[Assistant] So, so here I came and I had a personality and I was into the idea of selling bodybuilding and marketing it the right way since I started that as a kid.


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[Assistant] To be a marketer and to be a, a, a business person and how do you kind of like communicate and launch an idea? So I studied that all the time. And so when my time came, I said, I was like, now I'm going to use that in bodybuilding. So we were trying to get all the covers and all the precedents. So there was this explosion in bodybuilding and also about me, you know, like Andy Warhol and Jimmy Wise painting me.


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[Assistant] Leora Neiman painting me and me getting invited to all those parties, Studio 54 and, uh, you know, hanging out with Mick Jagger and all. It was like, it was just like this big explosion. Bodybuilding all of a sudden was accepted and,


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[Assistant] After the Mr. Olympia competition, after the Mr. Olympia competition at Madison Square Garden in 1974, all these actors came to the party. Jack Nicholson and Warren Beatty and Al Pacino and Dustin Hoffman and all.


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[Assistant] I mean, it was like, it was like, bodybuilding has arrived, right? So there was a big breakthrough. And it was finally, you know, because I just couldn't stand it anymore. The stupid stuff that people would say about bodybuilding.


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[Assistant] The press, not because they were just mean-spirited, there was maybe a little bit there, a jealousy.


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[Assistant] Filling inadequate around the body whether they had a good body or they had abs and muscularity. But they also kind of didn't understand it. So they made up shit. You know, they're all gay.


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[Assistant] You know, this is a substitute for some other shortcomings. They're stupid, and uh, they're narcissists, and uh, you know, gonna die early.


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[Assistant] If you work on all this kind of stupid stuff, say to yourself, oh, there's so much to work with.


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[Assistant] To kind of dispel some of those stereotypical things. So that was my job then. You know, I got for all huddled into the whole thing. But I mean, it was like the seventies was like the decade where it was the big explosion and then the eighties.


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[Assistant] Was of course the big explosion of then the action movies because now because of bodybuilding, I got into the movies and then we did Conan the Barbarian.


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[Assistant] There's a guy with a body and then all of a sudden they gave me all this action. Scripts. Terminator. And then commander. And then running man. Red heat.


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[Assistant] And uh, true lies. And then finally I had to kind of say, hey, what about a comedy? Then that's when the twins came about and kindergarten cop and journey on those kind of things.


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[Assistant] Athletes have proven later on that yes, you could get muscle bound if you don't do your sport at the same time, but that if you do weight training and you do your sport, that it only can enhance your performance. And we have seen it then from then on, we saw the shot putters all of a sudden.


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[Assistant] You know, breaking records after records, we saw how much better the football players got from weightlifting and from strength training.


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[Assistant] We saw how great the wrestlers got from all of that. And we saw all the athletes all of a sudden picking up. Bruce Jenner, I mean, was, before he won the Olympics in the decathlon, he, uh, up in Montreal.


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[Assistant] I mean, he was working out with weights and really, really heavy. And he was one of the first athletes that kind of had the sensitivity to understand, yes, if I combine speed with strength,


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[Assistant] When the hollow filter was like the one of the first boxes that really got seriously into the weightlifting and then all of a sudden started beating everybody, you know.


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[Assistant] And, uh, Mike Tyson and those guys were all lifting heavy weights and really serious weight. I mean, and they became ferocious fighters and really enormous. Ken Norton and those guys, I mean, they all really started getting into it. And so, you know, it was, it was an easy thing when those athletes were performing so well.


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[Assistant] It was an easy thing to prove that is not true. And then of course, in rehab,


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[Assistant] They used, you know, throughout the 80s and 90s, heavily weight resistance training.


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[Assistant] The, the country started having, you know, weight rooms, not massive, not tons of weights, but weights so that you can, you know, kind of do weight resistance. And then eventually it became a time like in the nineties where the military also


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[Assistant] Uhm, started getting into the weight room, and I remember I was the chairman of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports under Bush, and then I sat down with Bush, and uhm,


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[Assistant] Because he was, he was into weight training. He was working out regularly at Camp David and he was at the White House way before he started his meetings.


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[Assistant] And so I used to work out with him, and uhm.


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[Assistant] And so, he said to me, he says, I know there was a New York Times piece.


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[Assistant] I said yes, and he says, where the guys in Iraq were working out with sandbags.


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[Assistant] He says no. I said well first of all because resistance training is good. I said but the other reason is because you haven't sent him any barbells and dumbbells yet.


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[Assistant] I say, what do you think? That they would not rather live with dumbbells and barbells?


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[Assistant] Then the workout with sandbags, he says, can you organize that?


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[Assistant] I said, you're talking to the right guy. So I said, I'm going to go and I'm going to go and ask for donations.


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[Assistant] And now, they put it all together in a crate, and Colin Powell came to me and says, Arnold.


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna be that stupid and ship this over with a ship.


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[Assistant] He says, but you never have heard that. I'm gonna fly the fucking thing over there. So it's gonna be there in two days.


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[Assistant] From here to Germany, from Germany, from Landstuhl to Iraq, it's gonna be over in two days.


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[Assistant] And we're going to distribute it nicely. I'm going to put someone in charge and it was, and then all of a sudden, three weeks later, I was getting letters from guys there in the frontline saying, thank you.


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[Assistant] Arnold for helping us get those weights. We just received weights. We're now working out in the barracks with the dumbbells and with the barbells and all that stuff. We don't have enough, obviously, because there's so many of us that the end of weight training is his butt. It is a great, great beginning. Thank you so much. So, I mean, this is the kind of stuff. So, and then after that,


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[Assistant] The Terminator movie, Terminator 3. I wanted them to be the first ones to see it before anyone else, any critic or anyone else sees it. I was very fanatic about that. And so I went to various different places over there to show them the movie.


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[Assistant] And that's when I saw, all of a sudden, gyms, where they were working out.


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[Assistant] And the craziest thing was when I went back again in 2009 or when it was...


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[Assistant] It was the night I went back there and now I saw gymnasiums that were much bigger than any gymnasium in the world.


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[Assistant] 20 bench press benches with the barbells on top. There was like 50 life cycles.


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[Assistant] Especially in America, but in some cases in the world, where there is no


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[Assistant] Fire station that has not weights. There's no police station that didn't have weights. There was no military station that didn't have weights. No camp, no nothing.


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[Assistant] And on top of it, when I traveled around the world,


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[Assistant] And went to hotels. It didn't matter if it was in India.


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[Assistant] Or in London, or in Paris, or in Dubai.


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[Assistant] Everyone had waits, every hotel had wait, a wait room. So this is what happened in a period of like 30 years from the 70s to the 90s. It was an explosion in every direction and uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, when I wrote the book, be useful.


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[Assistant] That was my way of being used for. I said to myself, I believe in this. I feel passionate about this. And there's something in there for everybody because I felt like the bigger I make the sport,


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[Assistant] The healthier the people are gonna get, but at the same time, the more money the bodybuilders are gonna make.


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[Assistant] So therefore it has all the two in one thing and that is


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[Assistant] How do we get the general public sold on the idea of, it's cool to have muscles, and there are competitions there, there's the Mr. Olympiad, there's the Mr. Universe, the World Championships, Mr. World Competition, Mr. International, Mr. America, American Championship, there's different federations, you can tune in wherever you want, here it is. And all the Arnold's Classic.


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[Assistant] You know, my competition that I've been holding now for 35 years. Uhm, so this is also, it was all about, eh, it had many effects. It made people healthier. It gave them something to do. It made them join a village.


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[Assistant] So to speak, because so many people are lost as you know. You know, that's why there's so much benefit


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[Assistant] When you once belonged to the military.


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[Assistant] Because you belong to a village. You belong to a community.


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[Assistant] Uh, togetherness. In the rest of your life, you will always thank back.


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[Assistant] At that time, and you will have those connections in those bodies out there. I mean, when I think the amount of times that I think about


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[Assistant] Now it's obviously not like the American army, but just...


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[Assistant] You know what kind of a great feeling that is? That you never have to worry because


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter what it is, if it is ironing a shirt, I know how to do. Sewing on a button, I know how to do.


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[Assistant] Shortening the sleeves of a fucking pants, I know how to do. Driving the biggest vehicle, I've driven tanks.


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[Assistant] The biggest vehicle that doesn't scare me, I drive any vehicle, the Oshkosh, whenever you give me through the smallest alley in Beverly Hills, I'm not worried about banging into anything.


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[Assistant] I have an Oshkosh, you know, I drive it in the littlest kind of streets. It doesn't worry me. My tank, I go out and drive it, and I sit in there as a 50 ton tank.


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[Assistant] They can destroy anything. I drive it. I spin it around and go, and we have fun with the tank. I mean, it's like everything that I learned, I was crawling up


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[Assistant] And like I said, not with the danger like you guys did where you were actually on the front. That's a whole other ball game. And I can imagine how much courage that gives you. But just me crawling up hills in forests.


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[Assistant] In the rain, in the middle of the night, at 10 o'clock at night with a gun in my hand and crawling up and someone standing in front of you with a flashlight and screaming at you for fucking two hours. You're crawling, you have dirt, you have mud going through here and stuff like that. Or when you fuck up with the tank, then you have to go and release the emergency hatch on the bottom. And you crawl out. And then you crawl under the tank.


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[Assistant] And it's raining outside, in the mud. Then you climb up the other side, up the, the, the top of the turret, down through it, again to your driver's seat, and out again, and do that 50 fucking times. If you screw up.


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[Assistant] So there's the kind of things that I went through, uhm,


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[Assistant] You say to yourself, okay, now things don't bother me.


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[Assistant] You know, it doesn't bother me because I've gone through all of this stuff and this is why I tell so many young kids today.


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[Assistant] I said, you're making a big mistake to always look for comfort. Because comfort is the evil of everything.


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[Assistant] Comfort is not good. Looking for the easy way out is not good. You see, we've got to go and confront kind of resistance, and it's like Nietzsche said, you know, that what does not kill you will make you stronger.


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[Assistant] And this is exactly what it is. You know, if we can overcome kind of like all those obstacles, you know, then we get strong.


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[Assistant] And we can do much more and we look at the world totally differently and we don't whine about every little thing. And so this is, I mean, so I think what has happened to me in the military this one year, I was only one year, uh, from 18 to 19 in the military.


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[Assistant] And then of course the training that I was able to do there, the weightlifting, cause they hailed sports.


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[Assistant] And so they let me train in the afternoon when everyone else was washing the tanks in the morning, we were driving the tanks, and then in the afternoon, they said to Schwarzenegger, for you it's better to train.


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[Assistant] And so I had my gym, I had my barbells.


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[Assistant] And my benches and everything at that military station, it's uh, I trained for a few hours while they were washing my tank. And the oiling up all the different areas where you have to lube and put all the grease in it all the time. So, so this is the kind of thing, it's kind of like,


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[Assistant] So I can totally relate in a way to what you guys went through because I went through it with a small percentage and, uh, it helped me so much so I know how much it helps you.


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[Assistant] I think that, uh, it's, a lot of it has to do with parenting. You know, because I think that if you are a parent,


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[Assistant] You go out with your kids when they're like three, four years old and you run around with them and you do things into fun things, go take them on hikes, take them skiing.


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[Assistant] If you have the money, you know, because skiing sometimes can be expensive, take them swimming, you know, do things with them, you know, and have them join clubs later on.


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[Assistant] Uh, if it is a wrestling club, or if it is a boxing club, or whatever it is, or gymnastics, whatever it is, every kid you figure out as time goes on, what they're into.


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[Assistant] And every kid is into something else, but they find something that they're into. And so I think the parenting is...


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[Assistant] Uh, lacking a lot of times because this is all leadership because I remember with my kids, I had two of my kids that were not so much into the physical thing, but we found still fun things to do.


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[Assistant] And they became great skiers and they became great on the ice rink and doing ice skating and stuff like that. They were great in swimming and, uh, you know, then others excelled in everything.


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[Assistant] And baseball and basketball and football and all of that. So it really depends on the kids, but you can really push kids and really make them feel like, oh, there's so much joy.


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[Assistant] With being fit and going out and playing games and doing sports and stuff like that. So I think it's, it's, it's leadership at home that is missing a lot of times. And of course, as you know, there's a lot of kids that grow up with, uh, you know, both parents working.


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[Assistant] And, uh, that's why we started, you know, 30 some years ago, after school programs so that, uh, you know, that the kids have a place to go after school where they can go and get, uh,


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[Assistant] They will get the tutoring after 3 o'clock between 3 and 6.


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[Assistant] 30 some years ago and it has become a huge huge hit.


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[Assistant] I figured it out with bodybuilding, because not only did I have the vision,


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[Assistant] On that stage, on that Mr. Universe stage, like Reg Park, but me.


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[Assistant] I saw the photograph of Rich Park standing there with, in the background, the thousands of people applauding. And I said to myself, that's where I'm gonna stand. I don't know when, but I'm gonna stand on that stage. And I'm gonna go and win the Mr. Universe trophy. And so, I was absolutely convinced. And I could only compare it always to how people feel when they're religious.


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[Assistant] And they're absolutely convinced, you know, that, hey, I'm not worried about dying.


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[Assistant] I know where God is going to take me and they're absolutely convinced about that.


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[Assistant] And God is going to guide me and I will go through some difficult times, but God is going to be by my side. And then you have kind of almost a relaxed feeling about it.


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[Assistant] No matter what trouble they go through. And I felt exactly like that because I never was worried about it.


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[Assistant] Every exercise that I was doing, every rep that I was doing, I felt like great joy because it was like a rep, a set, a weight that get me one step closer to my goal, to make my goal become a reality.


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[Assistant] So this was like I'm chasing this thing and I'm having a great time because every single time I get closer and closer. So it was like, that's what people always say when they saw, when they came journalists that would come to the gym and say,


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[Assistant] You're the only one that is always smiling and having a good time in the gym. I say, well, I have a good reason to smile. And he says, why? I said, because every time I go to the gym, I get one step closer to winning the Mr. Olympia title, winning the Mr. Universe title. I mean, so to me, it's like kind of coming in here is like,


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[Assistant] It sucks me one step closer, one step closer, one step closer, and so I know where I'm going.


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[Assistant] And so this is why there is a certain joy there. And I didn't pay much attention to it, just to realize that I always had a certain calmness about it. But then when I got into the movie business,


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[Assistant] I felt kind of like I have to kind of dissect now and analyze what did they do in bodybuilding.


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[Assistant] That made it work, because everyone here in Hollywood says, Arnold, it's never gonna happen.


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[Assistant] You're never gonna become a star. You'll never become a leading man.


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[Assistant] And that's why one of the rules in the book also is, don't listen to the naysayers.


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[Assistant] But it's always, no, no, no, it's always, okay, in bodybuilding I heard the same thing. Arnold, you would never be a bodybuilding champion, because you're an Austrian, you become a ski champion, maybe.


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[Assistant] But not a bodybuilding champion. This is American stuff.


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[Assistant] That's British stuff, they do that not that we're here.


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[Assistant] And so, what did I do in the sense of, I visualized myself as Mr. Universe.


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[Assistant] I said, and then everything I did, I broke my ass off to get closer and closer every workout. So this is what I have to do. I get five hours, I worked out. So I'm going to go work five hours a day now on becoming an actor.


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[Assistant] But instead of doing five sets of curls and five sets of deadlifts and five sets of bench press and five sets of chin ups and all that stuff, I'm gonna do an hour


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[Assistant] Because they said that because of my accent it's going to be an obstacle. And I'm going to go and take an hour of English classes.


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[Assistant] Then an hour of, uh, uhm, acting classes, an hour of stunts, and an hour of this, and I said, I'm gonna do five hours a day, every day. I said, and...


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[Assistant] I'm going to visualize myself as another Clint Eastwood.


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[Assistant] And I'm gonna go and get in the movies and I'm gonna do big parts like that.


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[Assistant] All like Reg Park. Reg Park was Mr. Universe and then became Hercules. I said, wouldn't that be great?


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[Assistant] So I, I, I mean I had the idols there, so now it was just me to believe that I can be like that, and I believed.


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[Assistant] It's because I used the same method as I used in bodybuilding I use now and applied it to acting.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I worked my ass off, I believed in myself, and I moved closer and closer, and every time someone said, it's not gonna happen, it's not gonna happen.


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[Assistant] I got one step closer, you know, eventually, I was doing a Hercules movie, Hercules in New York, the comedy, there was like,


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[Assistant] Hilarious. But I was in front of the camera and I was starring. And then there was Lucille Ball called me a few years later and asked me to do Happy Anniversary and Goodbye.


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[Assistant] Which was a TV show with Art Carney. A two hour TV show. She says, I want you to play the masseur. And that's a seven minute part. She says, if you do that well, everyone will know who you are. So I did it. And it became a huge hit.


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[Assistant] And then I did, from then I got then Streets of San Francisco. Then I did Stay Hungry, with, uh, Sally Fields and Jeff Bridges, Bob Braverson directing. Then we did Pumping Iron. Then I did, uh, The Villains.


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[Assistant] With Kirk Douglas and with Anne Margaret and things started picking up.


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[Assistant] And I started guest-starring and co-starring with those guys. Then I did the Jane Mansfield story where I played Nikki Hageday.


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[Assistant] Which was a Hungarian bodybuilder.


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[Assistant] Who had an accent just like me, because Hungary, Budapest, where he came from, and Vienna, very close together, used to be the same empire, the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. So they used to belong together. So he married Jane Mansfield.


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[Assistant] So now they wanted me to do James Fusso and play Miki Hagede. And he was delighted. He was still alive at that time. He was delighted that I'm playing him. So now I'm having this starring role.


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[Assistant] And so this is how then I was doing Conan the Barbarian.


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[Assistant] So everything that they said that would be impossible, all of a sudden changed. And.


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[Assistant] When they asked John Milius, the director of Conan the Barbarian,


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[Assistant] How did you get to the idea to have Schwarzenegger Star?


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[Assistant] I mean, the last movie you did was The Wind and the Lion with John Connery and with Candice Bergen. Now you're hiding Schwarzenegger. Are you kidding me? What kind of a leap is that?


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[Assistant] And he says, if we wouldn't have had Schwarzenegger, we would have had to build one.


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[Assistant] Because Conan was a heroic guy that my friend Flissetta painted him.


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[Assistant] So to, to justice to that, the only one that was around was Schwarzenegger. And he was an actor at the same time, so I was so happy to find someone with a body like that. So exactly what they said is going to backfire on me was an asset. And the same thing was also with Terminator when they asked Jim Cameron,


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[Assistant] What made the terminator go through the roof become so popular and he says


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[Assistant] What I'll be honest with you is, besides Arnold's body, it was his accent. He says because he talks like a machine.


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[Assistant] He says, and that made it believable. He says, with his body, the way when he came out of this thing and we saw him there naked on top of Los Angeles looking down, he says, we saw that this is not a regular body that we're seeing on the screen. This is a machine. And then when we heard him talk,


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[Assistant] That confirmed that he was a machine. He says, that's a sort of thing. It was totally... So now all of a sudden, they said the body and the accent, the very thing that they said would not work.


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[Assistant] All of a sudden it worked, you know, so this is the kind of things, so I just applied the same rules with positivity, but, as I said,


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[Assistant] The key thing is that we know where we are going. No matter how difficult it is.


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[Assistant] We got to know where we're going because I don't know if you've seen people that, uh,


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[Assistant] Well, where should I start? Look at all the shops. Oh my God. This is all, ugh.


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[Assistant] Should we, should we cross the, so this is, so they don't know what to do.


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[Assistant] So this is what a huge amount of people have that look.


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[Assistant] Not to look for the next store, this is just a symbolic thing. But in reality, about life, they say, ah, ah, should I go to college? Should I go and join a football team? Should I train? Should I meet up with my friends?


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[Assistant] Because as soon as you have a vision, and as soon as you have a goal, which means you have to be really in touch with your passion.


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[Assistant] And towards his inside, rather than just keep looking at that iPad and at that iPhone and checking out what everyone else is doing.


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[Assistant] Well, you're not gonna get an idea what everyone else is doing. No, you have to find out what you are gonna do. Forget about everyone else. Let's find out what you're gonna do. And so this is why I say, find your passion.


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[Assistant] Find the place where you want to go, no matter how difficult it is, and it makes it fun then to chase after that vision. And, you know, so to me, what I did here with the book Be Useful is I talk about those things


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[Assistant] Because if you can do everything else, you can work your ass off.


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[Assistant] of planes are taking off from the aircraft carrier.


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[Assistant] And now they say, but they don't know where to go, and what to do.


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[Assistant] And they all go in different directions and no one is in sync. So this is, but this is what your life is like if you take off and you don't know where you're going.


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[Assistant] And it starts already with, in high school, it starts way back. Because we got to know when we go to college. It's wonderful to go to college. But if you don't know why you go to college, don't go. Go and become an apprentice in some other kind of a field. Like I did. I was an apprentice as a salesman.


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[Assistant] But I mean, it's like, it's like, you got to know, I've had kids that would go to college and say, what do you study? I say, I study English.


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[Assistant] I said, what's wrong with English? Uh, nothing. It's just, uh, you know, something that I can use for anything later on because I don't know yet what I'm studying. I said, what the fuck is that? You're 18 years old and you don't know what you want to do later on in life. How long is it going to figure? Is it going to take you to figure that one out?


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[Assistant] You know, you gotta know, do you want to be a lawyer with this? I mean, my nephew, Patrick Knapp.


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[Assistant] I sat down with his daughter. She says, I would like to go to USC. I said, that's fantastic. I say, I help any way I can.


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[Assistant] You know, for 4.0 average hours you can't get in.


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[Assistant] Wow, you know how much joy I had that there was an 18 year old, she was not,


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[Assistant] When you saw her eyes, how excited she was that she's gonna go to college and she's gonna graduate after four years in business and then she's gonna become a lawyer.


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[Assistant] I did not only choose a lawyer like the floating around entertainment lawyer like my dad.


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[Assistant] Now we're talking. So this is what I'm talking about. It just makes it for her, her journey.


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[Assistant] From now on, finishing high school this year and then going to college, it's going to be so much fun because she knows where she's going. So that's what I'm talking about.


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[Assistant] Well, but here's the thing, that if you have a very clear vision and you're absolutely convinced and have the faith in your vision,


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[Assistant] Then all the work that you need to do becomes easier because there's a purpose for it.


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[Assistant] You see what I'm saying? Because the worst thing is, you know how many people are in the gym, and they're sitting on the life cycle, and they're going, they do a life cycle.


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[Assistant] I said, let me ask you, why are you training? And he said, oh, my doctor said that I need to lose some weight. Well, that, that's the core.


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[Assistant] A goal is if you say, this summer, I'm gonna be 20 pounds lighter, and I'm gonna have a six pack, and I'm gonna have some muscle separation and stuff like that, and I'm gonna have the chicks all freak out trying to see this body.


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[Assistant] Now, it sounds stupid, the goal, but it works.


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[Assistant] It works. So you have to have a specific goal, whatever it is, how crazy it is. So, for someone to go and every day write the livestock because the doctor told them to, is not good. That person has to kind of sit down and see themselves.


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[Assistant] This is why Charles Atlas was so successful with his kicking sand in the face because it's the most basic thing and it worked and he sold hundreds of millions of courses.


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[Assistant] That is perfect. You said it perfect. It means if you go and do something, you might as well just go all the way with it. Just go all out.


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[Assistant] Do it. Do it. Exactly. And so it's, it's a, it's a common thing that people say in Austria and in Germany and in Switzerland. And so I wanted people to know that that's what I always heard and that's what I always said.


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[Assistant] And someone says, why do you spend five hours a day? I said, benjun denjun.


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[Assistant] If I go and go for the Mr. Universe contest, I'm gonna win. You know, there's no losing here. I'm gonna go all out.


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[Assistant] You know, so that was the idea. And the same is also in acting. I always went all out in acting. And you know what is interesting because you talk about the vision. I am out of nowhere.


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[Assistant] When the economy here in California went down. When we had blackouts.


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[Assistant] And when we had, uh, no political direction really, and


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[Assistant] We had really real problems here. The people were moving out their businesses from California. People were moving away from California. I always said and saw myself.


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[Assistant] That's the governor. I didn't say it to anybody.


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[Assistant] But more and more, I was, I was in the middle of promoting my movie Terminator 3. Like I was telling you, I was in Iraq, and I was in Kuwait, and I was in different places, you know, showing them, you know, the movie. And uhm, then I came back here, and I promoted it, you know, in France, in England, in Germany, everywhere like that, and all over America. It then came out in America.


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[Assistant] In Mexico, I remember traveling to Mexico and promoting it in Mexico and Rose. And then, as I was doing all of this, I said to myself, I'm having always like two visions here. I'm focusing on a Terminator movie and making this the most successful movie.


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[Assistant] Making sure that it grows as more money than any other movie this year. And I have also this vision of being governor. And sure enough, as soon as I was finished with the promotion, uh, I went on The Tonight Show and announced it. And I had no team yet.


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[Assistant] Even when they say, they say, but you have no team, how can you go and start getting it? I say, I've put the team together, don't worry about it. The election is not until two months from now. So I announced on August 6th and then October 7th was the election.


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[Assistant] Two months later. And I won. You know, so it was, it was the same thing. This is the work that I had to do.


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[Assistant] This is what I needed to do to get there, and this is exactly what I did. I was sitting literally to one o'clock in the morning every day by my swimming pool with a team of guys that came in in shifts to teach me about how Californias run.


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[Assistant] And what went south in California and to learn.


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[Assistant] About, you know, pensions, and to learn about labor, and to learn about prisons, and about law enforcement, and about guns, and about gun safety, and this and that, all the different things that they needed to know, so that they could have a debate, when we go to the debates.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and so, you know, it was the same thing. I just had a very clear vision.


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[Assistant] It was a hardware store. A hardware store. So they had the fake tiles and they had real tiles. So the people that couldn't afford


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[Assistant] Like there was a lot of people in Austria at the time, they couldn't afford real tiles on the kitchen. So they had this, this wooden boards that was kind of, it looked like tiles, but they put that on and it was like half the price and stuff. So I sold all of that and I learned how to sell and how to,


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[Assistant] You know, figure out very quickly when a couple came in, do you sell and talk to the woman or to the guy? And how do you identify that very quickly? And so you, I learned how to be sensitive.


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[Assistant] You know, they would say, well, we are here to, we want to put some tiles in our kitchen.


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[Assistant] And also upstairs in the bathroom, in our shower.


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[Assistant] And then I said, what color are you actually thinking about? And then he says,


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[Assistant] What do you think honey? So then I'll do. She says, well, pink. I think that for upstairs we should pink. You should have pink. He says, and for the kitchen?


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[Assistant] Also pink, and then she says, no, are you crazy? The kitchen is white. We gotta have white. You know, my friends have upstairs for the bathroom, they just got some black tile, which also looks very attractive, but pink is really the cup. I like pink. And he says, okay, whatever she wants, he would say.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I pay, but she just, you know, she makes the decisions.


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[Assistant] So I knew right away, okay, so now I took her around and I said, you will love this color. Let me show you. Let me show you the difference between the real tile and the fake tile. And let me show you this and show you that. And then if you need, you have anyone by the way already that is installing it?


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[Assistant] So, I talked mostly to her, and she felt like absolutely delighted. I couldn't do any wrong now, because for the first time she felt like someone took her seriously.


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[Assistant] Because in most cases, with the way Austria used to be, it was kind of very male-oriented, chauvinistic. And so the male knew everything.


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[Assistant] They thought. In reality, I know from my house when I grew up, my mother for instance ran the finances in our house. My father couldn't hold a candle to her. Or when it comes to writing.


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[Assistant] In charge of those things. And uh, but.


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[Assistant] She didn't dwell on it. She let him believe that he's the king, the king of the house and stuff like that. And so that's what women used to do. But so this woman was delighted that I paid all this attention and I told her this and says, I'm going to get some new tiles coming in next week on Wednesday. If you come back on Wednesday, then I can make sure that you get the same color.


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[Assistant] White. Because there's sometimes, there are different shades of white. I said, I'm worried about that. I said, come back next week, then I'll get a new kind of delivery, and it's all the same white and blah blah. And so she was delighted. She wrote out the order, he paid for it, it was a successful sell. But I learned that from my boss.


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[Assistant] When he said to me, he says, watch when I sell now. And he always asked me, he says, did you see now how I figured out that, that he was in charge and not she. And then the next time he says, did you see why I figured out that she was in charge and not him and all of that stuff. And so I would learn that. And so all of those things were very important to me for the rest of my life.


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[Assistant] Because every time you sell anything, you've got to know who you're talking to. You're talking to the women, you're talking to the guys. You talk to the young, or you talk to the old. You talk to conservative people, or to more liberal people. You talk to color people, or white people. All of this kind of stuff, you have to kind of know, and get a feel for the whole thing. Because everything changes a little bit here and there.


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[Assistant] Way back when I did my first interviews, I would go, let's say, on a Merv Griffin show or on a The Night Show. And the guy would ask me,


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[Assistant] And I will be on there to, let's say, promote Stay Hungry, the movie.


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[Assistant] And I come on down and he says, he says, so tell me, I mean, you still have this fantastic physique. I know you did a movie which just does this, but when did you work, start working out and, and, and, and why? So without saying it.


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[Assistant] But in my mind now, I say to myself, okay, if I tell him that I started at the age of 15, it's not gonna sell one more ticket for the movie Stay Hungry.


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[Assistant] I say if I tell him that it started working out because it's so rich pock.


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[Assistant] It's like no one knows who Reg Park is, and they're not gonna sell a ticket either. And so I went through all of this stuff within a split of a second, and said to myself, this is all a waste, so I have to go and bridge.


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[Assistant] So what I basically, at that time I didn't even know the terminology. I just said to myself, okay, here's what I'm going to say. I said, Johnny, this is a really great question. I said, I started at 15, but what was interesting is I did not know then.


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[Assistant] That I'm going to use this body in a movie like Stay Hungry. The one that's coming out this Friday. I tell you.


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[Assistant] And to get a little bit of an inside look in the background of bodybuilding and how those guys work out and the intrigues and all that stuff. But I also had convinced them to have like 50 other bodybuilders running through the city of Birmingham, Alabama.


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[Assistant] And I never thought that the day I started working out that we're gonna celebrate bodybuilding like that and that we're gonna show it to the people and they're all gonna see it in a movie called Stay Hungry. So now I mention the name a second time. So this is how I sold


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[Assistant] And at the same time I quickly answered, they started with 15 and went right over to the thing. So to me what is interesting always is,


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[Assistant] You're absolutely right, but what is really interesting about it is that the documentary called Arnold, which Netflix is bringing out next week,


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[Assistant] I say it gets into details and it dissects exactly


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[Assistant] What happened there? I'm not going to say it now. I said, because I was, maybe you don't want to see the documentary, but I mean, go and see that. I said, it's fascinating of what led up to that whole thing and where was the big explosion and bang it was over.


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[Assistant] I said, by the way, I still regret. But I mean, so that's what you do, right? Instead of just blowing it, I want to sell it at the same time as having a shitty


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[Assistant] Question, I want to turn it into a productive answer. And that is what it's all about.


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[Assistant] You know, five times, then people know that, okay, I'm having the book be useful.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I wanted the people to kind of a little bit more discover the book when they go to the bookstore. They say where's the be useful, uh, section.


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[Assistant] You lose to Mr. Universe. You just won a week before a Mr. Universe contest, the second Mr. Universe contest. Now you're coming to America and there is another federation.


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[Assistant] But what is laughable about it is even though I cried all night, as I said in the book, right, I cried all night.


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[Assistant] But that's something to be, that is laughable because our brain works a certain way. First of all, kind of feel sorry for me. Look what a victim I am. Arnold is coming over here from Europe.


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[Assistant] He doesn't speak the language. He's all alone in Miami, and he's suffering here, and they're treating him really badly.


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[Assistant] And there's these prejudiced judges that are just of course looking for American bodybuilders, but not for Europeans, hating European bodybuilders. And they make him lose now, and they're telling him he was a little bit too fat.


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[Assistant] And it didn't have the definition. And now I'm all here by myself lying in bed.


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[Assistant] With Roy Callander, with my black friend that was convening with me in a Mr. Europe contest in Mr. Universe and traveled all over the world with me. And luckily I had him to cry on to. And I'm crying all night and I say, can you believe that I lost the competition? So it's funny because you have to be able to get to a point where you can laugh at that and say,


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[Assistant] The mind pulls interesting tricks. Now I woke up. Now I'm with the program. Now I'm seeing reality. Now I don't see anymore. I was perfect.


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[Assistant] And they fucked me. And Frank Zane is a terrible person. He put a trick on me and all of that. Said, no, this is over now.


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[Assistant] We went past this stage where we are trying to defend ourselves and kind of make ourselves feel good. Now is the stage of reality.


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[Assistant] And then you actually feel good, better than when you were kind of going through the kind of being a victim stage. And so I went through this stage.


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[Assistant] Where I said, I feel good. Now I see it clearly. Frank Zane is a teacher. He's teaching kids. There's nothing wrong with him.


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[Assistant] And he had a fucking great body. He weighed 185. And I weighed 225.


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[Assistant] So why shouldn't he get points for that? Let's assume for a second he got 20 points for definition and I can let's say 18.


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[Assistant] Let's say I get 20 points for posing and I got maybe 18.


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[Assistant] And maybe he got, I got 20 points for size and he got 18. So he's still one by two points. I said, it's all pencils out. He is the fair winner. So I said, but I mean, I have, I don't have the experience.


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[Assistant] To train in order to get this kind of a body. So I'm going to humbly ask him.


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[Assistant] If he will be willing to come out to California and to work out with me, and maybe I can learn a thing or two.


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[Assistant] He came out to California, he said, I always loved going to World Courts Gym. I want to go to the Courts Gym. I'm going to, that would be great to train. Can I, can you put me up? I said, yea, you can stay in my place.


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[Assistant] For two, three weeks and then he found his own apartment. And then...


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[Assistant] We worked out together like crazy. We had the greatest time. I too came out for lunch and for dinner and for breakfast and all that stuff. We had the most wonderful time.


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[Assistant] And I got to see, first hand, the exercises he does for his serratus, the exercises he does for his abdominals, the kind of food that he eats in order to get so defined, and uh, on and on and on.


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[Assistant] And we became best of friends. As a matter of fact, so much so that we, that he made me promise not to compete against him. I said, this is not what I'm looking for.


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[Assistant] I said, you have to understand, even though you beat me, but I'm looking for the bigger stuff. I'm looking for Sergio Oliva. He's the Mr. Olympia. That is the guy I need.


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[Assistant] In order to really sit on top of the world. And he said, oh, that's good. I'm getting at that. That's good. He says, because next year I want to compete in the Mr. Universe in the amateur in, uh, London and I don't want you to compete in that. I said, no, I won't compete in that.


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[Assistant] So we went together to the Mr. Universe in 1969, the year later. We trained together with Franco.


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[Assistant] And I went to New York, won my third Mr. Universe contest, the one that he won a year before.


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[Assistant] I won that one, then I took him to the Mr. Universe contest in London, to the other federation, and he entered in that one, the amateur, and he won that one. So we both now won one. So there was not like trying to take something from him or him from me. And then, uh, the year after that,


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[Assistant] I came back and then I beat Sergio Oliver. And the one that Mr. Oliver beat from then on, that was, that one could beat me.


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[Assistant] So that was it. So that's, so we all worked it out. Now we did compete again against each other because eventually we ran into each other in the Mr. Olympia because he was winning Mr. Olympia three times and the fourth time and he tried was 1980. I came back and competed again after five years of retirement.


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[Assistant] And so that's where we ran into each other again. And I could not tell anyone.


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[Assistant] That I'm competing because I was listed as a judge.


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[Assistant] And so only the day when we had the judges meeting, I said, you know something guys? I'm not going to judge, uh, tomorrow. I'm going to compete tomorrow. And they said, what?


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[Assistant] It was kind of a big surprise. So at that point no other bodybuilder would pull out, so they just then competed against me and I was lucky enough to win.


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[Assistant] I think there were a few basic things like milk products that, uh, Frank Zane and Frank are both were then very adamant about for me to cut out. And for me cutting out the milk products alone helped me a lot to get more defined. The other thing was to have desserts.


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[Assistant] I had no concept really at that time.


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[Assistant] About, you know, desserts and all that stuff. And I just would eat desserts after every meal. And they said cut out desserts three months before.


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[Assistant] And that's what we did, even though the night before the Olympia, or before the Mr. Universe, Frank and I would go to the House of Pies, here on Fifth Street, across the street from Sookies, and, uh, Santa Monica, and we would eat a whole cherry pie.


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[Assistant] But it was like because we were so starved of carbohydrates that it somehow blew it. But it didn't hurt anymore. It was too late. The next day we went to New York for the Mr. Olympia contest and we won. And he won his Mr. Universe and Mr. World contest and I won the Mr. Olympia. And everything was standing fine. But, uh,


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[Assistant] But I learned a little bit about that, but I was never really a diet, uh, expert.


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[Assistant] I got my definition from overtraining. So everyone, everyone in a bodybuilding world


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[Assistant] Would say that that many sets to 35 sets a body part like I did three times a week, that that was definitely over training. And to me, I never knew exactly how to do it without the 35 sets.


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[Assistant] And the reason is because I felt kind of like every exercise had a specific purpose. And so when I was doing chest and I was doing five sets, let's say of bench press, then I did five sets of barbell incline press.


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[Assistant] Then I did five sets of dumbbells.


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[Assistant] Inclined press. Then I did five sets of flies. Then I did five sets of pullovers with the dumbbell. Then on a, on a nautilus machine and a pullover machine.


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[Assistant] And then I did the cable crosses for the striations. And it went on and on and on. Each exercise was for a specific purpose. It's the same thing with back. Yes, I was doing my, my, uh, chin ups, wide grip.


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[Assistant] But then five sets in the back, five sets in the front.


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[Assistant] But then I remember Frank Zane said if you want to get the intercostals and the serratus, you got to do close grip chin ups. So we did the close grip chin ups in order to get the serratus.


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[Assistant] So, but then it was bend over rowing. It was the teabow rowing.


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[Assistant] But then it was also the barbell rowing where I could lift it further up in order to reach the chest with the bar and off a block or off a bench, standing on top of a bench or a block.


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[Assistant] And that's how I got my definition, rather than by burning of fat, I was working it off. Just working. And just, you know, just burning. They said I burned like five thousandths. What was it?


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[Assistant] 50 tons of weights every day.


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[Assistant] And it was like thousands of calories we've done during the workout. And it was just, and then it was abs, and it just, you know, it just went on and on and on. But anyway, it was good, so with me it was mostly over training that created in the definition.


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[Assistant] That may be a right, because it wasn't a bad diet, it just wasn't a good diet. So like I said, I was never severe. There were some guys that would be really strict.


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[Assistant] All year round, and there will be like Chuck Colores and people like that, that, that had abs throughout the whole year or Pierre van den Steen, uh, the belgian bodybuilder or Mr. University just was like,


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[Assistant] Ripped. I was never ripped like that. So I mean, those guys, they will be really on the diet, but they will be lean. They don't have the size.


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[Assistant] You have to find out how your mind operates. You have to find out how your body operates. I mean, it would be a mistake for me to copy exactly Frank Zane's training or Frank Colombo's training.


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[Assistant] Frank did only 10 sets of thighs, because his thighs got big very, very quickly. And I had to, I had those long thighs, I had to do much more. So everyone trained differently. So the idea to tell someone, here's what you do for bench press, this is what you do for chest, this is what you do for back. These are the ideas to say, this exercise hits the lower lats. This exercise hits the upper lats.


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[Assistant] This exercise hits the center of the back, when you roll back.


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[Assistant] This gets the center, so the more you hold it back there, the more you develop the muscles in the back. And this is how you develop the lower back, you know, by doing good morning exercise with the thumbbell.


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[Assistant] So this, so you can give people this idea, but then what, how many sets and how many reps to do for each one of them. They have to figure that out because everybody has weak points and everyone's weak points are different.


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[Assistant] In the mind it was always hard to get the tricep or to get thighs.


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[Assistant] So for Frank it was hard to get the longer bicep, he was at the short bicep, the longer bicep, and to get the outer calves, and he could never straighten out his bow legs, and stuff like that. So everyone had their weak points, so you had to kind of get


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[Assistant] Exercises for the inner thigh to make it visually appear not as bow-legged, but more straight in the way he posts. So, so we have to...


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[Assistant] Every situation is different. And so this is the important thing is an ant is like you have


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[Assistant] An idea, you give people an idea of how to train for every single area of the body.


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[Assistant] But then you have to let, then you give them suggestions how many sets, but then they have to figure it out themselves. It's like I was at Vince's gym in the valley, and I said to Vince, why are you doing this stupid exercise?


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[Assistant] I was like lying on a bench, and he had a dumbbell here, and he was going out like this.


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[Assistant] And he says, how many sets did you do? I said five. And he says, no, no. You gotta try it 20 sets. 20 reps.


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[Assistant] Because then you will know tomorrow which part of your tricep hurts.


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[Assistant] The tricep that separates the back from the bicep.


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[Assistant] Was like twitching, going absolutely crazy. So now I knew that is what it is for. I never knew.


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[Assistant] After all the years in winning Mr. Universe twice and all that stuff, I was training over there, I did not know that. So it just shows to you that we do exercises and exercises and exercises, but we don't know exactly for which part it really works. And your bone structure.


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[Assistant] We'll tell you that. So this is why you have to experiment with your own body.


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[Assistant] You got to go and do some daisy squats with your toes pointed out.


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[Assistant] Very close together, further apart, and the 20 sets of 20 reps, and then you would know the next day where it hurts.


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[Assistant] You know, since it's almost kind of like a Leonardo da Vinci way to dissect and go into the minute details and, uh, be kind of a lab technician and try to figure out your own body rather than just copy.


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[Assistant] So this is what I always say to people, I say you got to figure out your own body. And everyone has to do something.


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[Assistant] That makes some changes, some little alterations. Yea, the basic things that are the same. But, I mean, it's like, uh, how many people don't know that your bicep


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[Assistant] So what I did was I ended up putting more weight on the inside than on the outside.


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[Assistant] So that when I curl up like that, it was really hard.


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[Assistant] To get this dumbbell in here because this weight was weighing down and that is kind of like putting it in and it cramped my bicep.


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[Assistant] I said, son of a bitch, I'm having such a cramp, have to straighten it out right away and all that stuff. So, most people don't know that.


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[Assistant] To function well and to be happy and to be successful and to be fulfilled and all of that stuff. You got to figure that out what makes you tick. Yes, there's some basic rules. You can read my book here and all of that stuff, but it's still not everything.


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[Assistant] There's still things that you have to figure out for yourself in order to really get good at things and, uh, really reach your potential and reach all of your goals.


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[Assistant] This was fun to schmooze with you guys, because it was not like an interview, kind of, I think what makes yous very attractive and fun is that you're almost kind of, you know,


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[Assistant] When did he decide to write this book? You know, this is kind of like, the way people come, you just have to turn to CNN or Fox, I don't know if those things, that's how they usually...


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[Assistant] Absolutely. No, no, I can totally see that.


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[Assistant] And then all of a sudden, somehow you develop into this person that you didn't know.


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[Assistant] Like I found out even when I did not know everything, but just helping somebody else made me feel good. And I started getting into that, like training other people that eventually I took that job in Munich to be the trainer in the bodybuilding gym. And that just found it just so full of joy for myself to work out, to be able to help


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[Assistant] The President's Council of Physical Fitness, where all of a sudden the President sends you around to all the schools and to promote, you know, fitness in the schools and to get more public, to get more kind of physical education classes in the classrooms and all of that and so.


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[Assistant] So one thing leads to the next, and eventually you get so high on the idea of helping people.


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[Assistant] And I talked about Sargent Shriver, right? Because when he said that at his commencement speech, I thought it was like so meaningful to me.


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[Assistant] Other guys like me, because we deal with the mirror.


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[Assistant] And then all of a sudden to hear, smash that mirror that makes you always look at yourself. And you will see the millions of people behind that mirror that need your help. I said,


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[Assistant] As soon as I hear the speech, I say to myself, I gotta write this down.


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[Assistant] I say because this is such a, such a, like you just said, such an opposite. That's why we put it in the book there. First to talk about the mirror, then to talk about smashing the mirror. And what a great way of ending up. Yep, it is indeed.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, not control group, I guess, it's called a control, where, yeah, like, because certain experiments are


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[Assistant] Well, you know, I was part of, I don't know if you'd even call it experiment, but it's, they call it a longitudinal study. Oh yea. Where they go and they ask like some, well the cool thing is, especially nowadays with the, you know, regulations.


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[Assistant] I forget if it's because I have a twin brother. In fact, from what I understand now, from what I remember, it's not because I had a twin brother, but.


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[Assistant] A little bit, uhm, and it, to me that part, not to go too deep into just big twins in general, but I guess it is relevant, cause, okay, so twins, this is the way I understand it, as being a twin, and I hear what everyone says, cause if you're not a twin, there's a lot of stuff you just can't relate to or whatever, but,


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[Assistant] You would think, but if that's all you know, not being a twin seems kind of weird, you know, like as far as the feeling goes, you know, of course it's not weird when I see it, but the, you know, people are like, oh, you guys have, uh,


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[Assistant] Take that idea, cause that's absolutely 100% correct, where take that idea and now apply it to not just, cause you're talking about in very specific situations, right, where you like a...


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[Assistant] Yep, maybe 22. That's one. I would say when I started getting into working out way more heavy, like after football, that's kind of when, but still we lived together for all well into our twenties, but our past started to deviate at that point.


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[Assistant] He's going like, yea, he's going cardio. No, he was into professional stuff, you know. His, his career kind of started at that point. Oh. Nonetheless, the, what do you call it, the formative years, right? When you grow, while you're growing up.


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[Assistant] XYZ stimulus, whatever you wanna call it. You know, when this happens, we're both thinking the same thing, cause our thoughts are based on past experience, which is just very similar, we share it a lot, you know?


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[Assistant] So yes, it feels like you can read each other's mind. Cause you know already. But it's not like, ooh, I can read his mind. It's not that. It's just like, I'm thinking this, I look over, I know a hundred percent he's thinking that exact same thing. And then it goes from like big obvious stuff to just teeny tiny stuff. And here's the, here's when it got weird, but it makes sense now.


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[Assistant] They don't share any results with us. They don't share any like personal stuff. So like there's certain stuff that it's only for their records to like keep track of us. But as far as the results, for what the results are for, like I think our name,


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[Assistant] Yeah, they just, essentially they want to find out in a given population who's ending up where, and what are they thinking, you know, kind of a thing. I hope they can figure out what you're doing.


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[Assistant] What do they do if the guy, uhm, does sleepwalk for example?


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[Assistant] So he just, and, but what they're doing is stuff they already know. So it's not like they're wooo walking into the pool or something.


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[Assistant] I was just, I was just going like, yeah, it's like, this is a weird part of sleepwalking.


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[Assistant] That I've witnessed anyway. They, they'll come and it's almost like they have had something that they were doing in their own head and they just continued to do it. So it'd be real random, you know? Like, like my son will come and sit, like, so my wife has a little office, right, and it's kind of off to the side or whatever. So I'll hear them coming up.


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[Assistant] And like kind of like whining or talking or something, you know, just saying like nonsense or whatever. And then I'll just hear him kind of stop and then I'll go and I'll look and he's just like sitting there like trying to do something.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it seems like too, sleep, some sleepwalkers, they do other stuff. Like there's people who do like weird stuff when they sleep well. So yeah, I would think, especially like how you mentioned, if you're on a ship, that's a lot of liability. Scary.


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[Assistant] I mean, now that you're kinda running down this, there's a lot of, like, movies and shows and stuff that kinda base the-


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[Assistant] That seems like a movie that you would actually watch. Cause it, cause it has real like Lord of the Flies like undertones. Vibes. Yea vibes, exactly right. It's essentially they get these criminal teenagers.


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[Assistant] Rallied around the same goal, same exact thing. That's actually a pretty cool movie.


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[Assistant] You kind of see all these, or whatever. But then, you know, in the movie or whatever, especially American History Act, I think, that I kind of felt that. I was like, yeah, I can see why, like, they don't like each other kind of, or the one guy didn't like, but it seemed like the black guy knew, knew the deal. Like, hey, we gotta work, because he had been working there for a while, so he was kind of like, hey,


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[Assistant] We gotta work here together, so we might as well not fight. Kinda, you could tell that was his attitude. And then...


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[Assistant] Slowly, the way they wrote it, it was like, oh, I could see how that would work right there. You know, first it just starts with one little thing, one, like, taking down of the guard, and then one little smirk after the guy's joke, and then after then, finally one word, then they're joking, you know, it's like, that sequence seems understandable after a while.


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[Assistant] Because of what you're saying, like that one goal is kind of that primary thing. And after a while you kind of find a way to make it work. And then you realize the way that it works is for you to freaking let go of all this dumb other stuff, you know?


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[Assistant] You know, they, they, I had this theory a while ago where it's like, yeah, we have all these little problems everywhere that turn into big problems, whatever, is because the whole reason behind that is because all our problems are solved. And that's what these real and compelling problems are no longer in existence. So,


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[Assistant] So, you know how you say, like, oh yea, what you just said, where, you know, they're looking around, whose group can I be with? The thing is, the funny thing is, and it is interesting at the very least, is that's what we're all doing anyway. Regardless of the circumstance, we're all doing that. So when all these real and compelling problems start to become less and less, we're still doing that. We're still doing the whole,


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[Assistant] Who's the enemy? Who can I join? Who are we fighting? What are we doing? You know, like, everyone's still doing that, just on different levels now.


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[Assistant] Problems, the real and, you know, compelling problem, they're gone. Now you have less real, less compelling, but we still got that operating sy- or-


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[Assistant] Exactly right. I'll put it this way. We start to look harder and harder for them and find them. Cause they're ever- they're gonna be there. They're in-


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[Assistant] And this, like, this document that talks about this experiment, like, man, that, it illustrates why this is the case. You know how, like, there's all these, all these are different examples. Big, small, whatever. They're all just different examples of the same exact thing. So like, you know, you know, cults, right? You know, cults, right? Where you typically,


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[Assistant] They got their friends, that's part of their team, they got their values, they got their freaking, and they're real, they're consistent, they're stable, they're secure with a lot of stuff in everyday life. Cult people don't...


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[Assistant] Look for people like that. They look for the people without that. So they can provide all that stuff. And that's exactly what they do when they bring them in. Totally what they do. It's us against them. Uhm, this is the real way. The other way. Look, you've been tricked. They did this to you, those enemies. You know, it's like that kind of stuff. So it's all the same stuff. All of this stuff.


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[Assistant] We're not part of a tribe. We don't feel like we're part of a tribe or whatever. Uhm, that's when we're so susceptible to just gravitating towards kind of the first tribe we can be a part of. And freaking assigning enemy status to the first enemy we can, we can identify. That's essentially it. But it's always been like that.


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[Assistant] So yeaah. It's a good reminder, for sure. But, and this can sound kinda more negative than I mean it to be, but I do feel like


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[Assistant] To a certain degree, we don't have a choice. Maybe individually we do for sure, but...


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[Assistant] Oh, we have less of a choice than it might feel like sometimes because, you know, you know, you ever heard the conspiracy theory or maybe it's just this idea that like, Ooh, some, some buddy, you know, the powers that be want to keep you distracted.


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[Assistant] That kinda seems true in a lot of ways. And reasonable as far as like why that would happen or whatever, cause like think about it, if


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then, with that, you can let them, and you know these instincts, like all these instincts, we know that, so let's influence them in this way that gives rise to this instinct taking hold. It's not gonna take hold.


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[Assistant] For real, to take them out of the mold. So you talk about bombing of Pearl Harbor, 9-11, like these things, they do snap people kind of back into, but here's the thing, I don't know if it's more so than it snaps people out of like some thing, I think even like, okay, bombing of Pearl Harbor, everybody kind of unifies.


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[Assistant] That's not snapping anyone in or out of anything. All that is, is just adjusting the common goal. So, and the common enemy as well. So like, before that, it was like, we don't really have any real, like a real one. You know, you can say, or, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, whatever the problem is, if they don't feel it for real, for themselves, for real, it's kinda like, cool, that's what they say on the news. Cool, that's what my neighbor said. That's all it is. Nothing more. But, you get a for real attack, oh!


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[Assistant] Uh, well, on your, on our path to excellence, discipline, freedom, the whole thing, if you want to represent on that path, discipline equals freedom, you go to jocostore.com, this is where you can get the stuff. Not on Amazon, sorry to say. Hey look, I'm, I, I buy stuff off Amazon, down for the car, I get it.


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[Assistant] But none of the discipline equals freedom. Stuff is on Amazon. Yep. And if you buy it from Amazon, you're buying it from somebody probably overseas, maybe in China, something like this, who's like, ooh, Navy Seal, they sell stuff. And then they'd like print it. A lot of times, not even, some stuff is not even spelled correctly, by the way. Friend, I'm not joking. That's what you're buying.


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[Assistant] It's not from the real source at all. Not even close. Not good. No. So that's, that's on you, but it, I find it, I find it, uhm, incumbent upon myself.


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[Assistant] So, to let people know, cause not everybody, I can't expect everybody to know that. It's true. You get it from JockoStore.com, it's the only place. Uhm, just legal, freedom, good, all these, all these things that, you know, when you wanna represent, you can represent.


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[Assistant] Not to mention the short locker which is a new design every month. People seem to like this one. The new one is...


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah, yeaah, the sugar coated, yes. So the next one, April, didn't come out yet, comes out on the first, it's interesting.


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[Assistant] Put it this way, it goes, it's in the same vein and on the same, um, vibe as this whole being on a team. Oh. You know, the whole thing. Look into it. Nonetheless, called the Short Locker, new design every month, a subscription scenario, it's on Jocko's store, so that's where you can get that.


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[Assistant] Sure, we can talk about whatever we want, kind of a thing, but it's kind of a thing you tune into like every, well, it's every week, but it's like you tune into for like good guidance on life, like if you have like questions, like okay, you go through life, look, most of us, we know how to get from A to B to get it, but if we're going to A,


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[Assistant] To be in a more efficient, more useful, helpful, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, if you're pursuing success, this kind of thing, if you want to go A, B, C, D, all the way to Z, you know, this is a good guide. It's like, like, that kind of life advice, I would say. I would agree. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Vizzle was like, is, did this game even exist? And so it's like, it fucking existed, okay, there's, this is my stalled impression. It's been around for fucking years or whatever.


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[Assistant] He's like, well actually this game, you can tell they put a lot of work into it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, me too, me too. We've done a good job of compromising, keeping things dynamic.


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[Assistant] It turned out really, really well. You don't even need a frame.


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[Assistant] So at least two. Could be more. It depends how the night goes. Mixed our best parts together and come out with something, you know, better than the sum of the parts or something.


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[Assistant] But now it's like, it's at least way more badass.


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[Assistant] We also, we did that style of like, you know, when you're drawing with someone, you're like, I'll draw the head. I'll draw the eyes. A lot of back and forth, which is like, kind of.


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[Assistant] They're definitely cooler than like most stuff I've done because of teamwork, so. Teamwork makes a dream.


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[Assistant] If you're a virgin CEO, yea, with a lot of money and sex craze, and you like, I don't know, like explosions or something. Yea. It doesn't have to make sense. Also, this one's already got a frame on it. So you don't even have to frame this one. Pretty nice of us. Although we do recognize it.


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[Assistant] They'll never biodegrade. Water resistant, a little light fire resistant. They've got a nice, okay, I think I'm just like, actually this one might still be a little wet, but they've got a nice stickiness to them, which you don't get a lot.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay. Yeah, there's also, specifically on that one, a little bit of Brian hair. So if you


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[Assistant] I know, I mean I tinkered all night trying to get this to look like something, this rocket. Not that rocket, but uh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel bad for your brother. Maybe on the way back, we'll work something out. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a good idea. That's a good idea. Like the mod list. Yeah, bam.


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[Assistant] No, well, it was, the P wasn't a break. Yeah, it's just me. But also it's like, I'm trying to be nice, you know, it's like, I think you want a turn.


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[Assistant] It's gonna look better because we compromised and we're dynamic.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, I haven't jerked off in a while and it's starting to like kind of- It's eating me alive. Yeah, it's, it's irk- I just saw what this looks like. It's irking me a little, um, but I'm doing alright. It is especially working on like a horny collage. Wow, it probably helped me channel that.


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[Assistant] We did watch movies, kinda, they live awesome.


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[Assistant] I didn't really get to play the movie I wanted either time. Really what I wanna watch is They Came Together, but that's not- You've already seen it though. I've already seen a lot of movies.