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[Assistant] At a big medical company and we were, I was saying, ah, you know, when my, when my, I was kind of, I was kind of professing guilt because when my kids were younger,


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[Assistant] And how, like, stick the kids so that they could get used to getting- Oh, you- you wanna have some ice cream? Cool.


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[Assistant] Technically gonna do this. I would have to make a, uh, a bucket with a bunch of ping pong balls in it.


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[Assistant] Nothing. Next day, nothing. Next day, nothing. Next day, chocolate chip cookie.


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[Assistant] That's what I would have to technically do, but I had to do the workout to pull one of these things out of the bucket.


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[Assistant] Well jiu-jitsu, unfortunately when you start jiu-jitsu you're getting 100% error rate because you get tapped out all the time. That's why it takes a lot of effort to get over the hump in the beginning. Uh, look, we've been going for a while.


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[Assistant] I do want to, you've touched on this a little bit, but before we, before we wrap, and I can already tell if you're, if you're okay with it, hopefully we can do some more podcasts in the future.


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[Assistant] Let's get people ready for bed, ready for sleep. You've already talked about what we're doing, what our temperature's doing, how we getting ready for bed at the end of the day. After our three bouts of work.


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[Assistant] I've always called them dude. That's legit. I'm in, you know, you gotta have that. It's a mindset thing, right? You're like, okay, I need to, I need to get rid of, get in the game. Forward center of mass. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Shut up and go. When I write books, which I've written a couple, I write a thousand words a day. And it takes about an hour. And I...


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[Assistant] You wouldn't get any third person personality or what were you calling it? You wouldn't get any detachment when you're doing that kind of getting the zone.


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[Assistant] There's quite a few dogs out there named Jocko. There's a couple kids out there named Jocko. There's some police dogs out there named Jocko. Are there Jocko tattoos?


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[Assistant] Uh, there are some chocolate tattoos out there in the world. Yeah, if you, if you talk about, like, people get good for a tattoo, people get disciplinary freedom for a tattoo. Those are pretty cool. Uhm, yeah, so there's some of that stuff going on. Anyway, did, has anyone gotten any, uh, you know,


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[Assistant] I was on Lex's podcast and it was an interesting interaction, we'll say. Uh, and he's just, he's an awesome guy. It was just like, I don't know. It was a little strange, but, but, and somebody actually nailed it. They said, this is like the Terminator.


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[Assistant] We were actually just laughing our asses off about a couple things. That was one of the things I told him, Hey, I read this comment about when you, when you interviewed me and he was just laughing because he was so accurate. It was kind of funny. Maybe I should roll jiu-jitsu.


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[Assistant] It was just, uh, I think he, you know, he, he started off with some questions like, are you afraid of death? I'm like, no.


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[Assistant] He's like, do you want to expand on that? I'm like, I'm not afraid of death. Whatever it was, but it was funny. It sounded funny afterwards when I listened to it. I was like, man, why? I don't know what happened.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and the other funny thing is we were kinda chillin'. Like, we met, was in LA, we're talking, you know, we're just talking and, and we sit down, and that was another thing, it kinda-


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[Assistant] Yeah, my response about the death question will be the same, you know, and are you afraid of death? No.


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[Assistant] Podcast up. What are we, uh, how are we getting ready for sleep?


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[Assistant] Set security. Set security, right? You gotta go to bed. You gotta set security. I set security at my house, just like you're saying. Yeah. Right. You get, get ready for bed at night. It's like, go make sure that the external perimeter is secured. Make sure the locks are locked. Make sure the alarm systems are on. Make sure the dog is rabid and ready to eat people.


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[Assistant] You know, make sure your magazines are loaded and, you know, you're good to go. Booby traps are set.


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[Assistant] When you were a kid, you were going to that therapist and they maybe thought you were a little jacked up psychologically. Did they put you in anything back then?


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[Assistant] Do you think the tendency now is that they put people on stuff a lot quicker?


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[Assistant] And it's not like we have like the extremely rough environment that we're in. We're in America. You know, we created in here. Yeah.


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[Assistant] One thing that I think is very cool about your story is, look, I mean, I got four kids, you know, two of them in college now, uhm,


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[Assistant] Look, you got time to figure out this stuff, and I'm the same way, you know, I joined the Navy, I was a-


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[Assistant] Being very successful and doing what you truly want to do. And there's another thing that kids get messed up on.


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[Assistant] They think they should know what they want to do, what they want to do with their lives when they're 14 years old.


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[Assistant] And, oh, what do you want to be when you grow up? I don't know. And they feel bad because of that. It's actually perfectly fine. Take a little time to figure it out. Now, I will say this.


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[Assistant] And you already said this as well, go to school, try and get good grades. Don't do freaking drugs. Don't get in trouble. Cause then your options will be broader when you do get older.


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[Assistant] None of these things are the end of the world. And actually I'm talking about kids. I'm not just talking about kids. You can be 38 years old and figure out, Oh, you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to get my shit together right now and I'm going to start moving in the right direction. I mean, you talked about a bunch of skateboarders and I knew a bunch of hardcore kids that didn't square themselves away until they were 37 years old. And so,


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[Assistant] We all have options out there, and you're not gonna, you're not gonna nail it, man. No one nails a perfect game. It doesn't happen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and what's important about what you just said and this is tying back to something you talked about earlier with these dopamine systems that we have.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's Huberman Lab, Huberman Lab podcast. He's gonna take everything that he mentioned today for, for, for four minutes or six minutes. He's gonna talk about for two and a half to three hours with a bunch of scientific data to back it up. Awesome to listen to.


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[Assistant] Also they can find you at Huberman, did you say Huberman? Yeah, Huberman. Hubermanlab.com, this is kind of a good access point for everything. You're on YouTube and Facebook, both of those are Andrew Huberman.


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[Assistant] And then you're on Twitter, on Instagram, sucking people into the algorithm, bringing out the anger and the hatred, collecting data.


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[Assistant] Both those are at, so Twitter and Instagram at Huberman Lab. Echo, you got any other questions? Of course. What do you got?


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[Assistant] So it is, you might not be an expert on how to counsel them on it, but if people are aware of it, they can do a better job combating becoming a victim to those scenarios.


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[Assistant] We're just friends. And behave that way. Don't assume that you're gonna, don't assume that there's a chance you just assume, hey, you know what? She probably doesn't really like me that much. That's the assumption you make. Back off.


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[Assistant] If, if she ends up actually feeling that way, then she's gonna come and let you know that.


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[Assistant] He's, this is a, I think we just got a humble brag.


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[Assistant] Check, check. Uh, going back to a little bit more serious, what you said about uhm,


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[Assistant] Well, thanks for coming and back at you, you know, as a listener to your podcast, it's, it's awesome to be able to sit down and drill down on some of these things and you know, really, uh, a really important thing.


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[Assistant] I would say there's a theme that I've, that I've taken away from, from your podcast, but then that I absolutely reinforced today. I talked about it a little bit. The fact that the things that you're talking about really allow us to bring awareness to what's happening in our bodies, in our minds physiologically and therefore


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[Assistant] We actually have more influence than we think over what our thought patterns are and the way we behave, which ultimately allows us as people to take more ownership


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[Assistant] Over the way we feel, the way we behave. And those are really important things. And I think just understanding the nature of our own physio, physiology better.


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[Assistant] To try and learn these things and the fact that you give it back to people for free is just a testament to the kind of person you are and I appreciate it and I hope you keep getting after it man. Thanks for coming down. Thank you.


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[Assistant] And with that, Andrew Huberman has left the building. He's rolled out. Echo, did you gather any good information? Yes. A lot of stuff going on.


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[Assistant] Jack, no, great guy, great information, definitely cool to talk to, and you know, even just when he was leaving, you know, we'll definitely get some stuff done, do some more stuff in the future, uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, man. I really, I really do, the point that I was making kind of throughout the podcast and that I kind of closed out with like, look, just being aware of these things makes you better off.


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[Assistant] So, I thought that was well worth the price of admission.


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[Assistant] Maybe you listen to it at 2x speed right now.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah. Plus then it sounds like you're trying to hard sell something. Yeaah. Well actually we did. I don't want to be that guy. Exactly. But yes, we have the ultimate formulation for HENERGY.


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[Assistant] Yep, it is hella good. Vitamin Shop, wahwah, jockofuel.com, get yourself some supplementation that's gonna make you bigger, faster, stronger, smarter, whole nine yards, there you go.


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[Assistant] No, jocofool.com. Check out originusa.com. You're probably going to need a gi, right? Cause we're training jiu jitsu.


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[Assistant] I would love to tell you to wear that gi down to the market, out to the club.


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[Assistant] That might not be the case. You might need it. You might need a pair of jeans. Right? We got your jeans too. Made in America. Made in the United States of America. DIY. Do it yourself.


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[Assistant] You good? Yes, sir. Okay, let's go to, uh, jacobestore.com.


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[Assistant] What about when they get a, uh, a shirt locker? Shirt. Same.


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[Assistant] That's just the nature of the game. All those things that we just said are a little bit lame, right? Unless it's from Thunder Trucks and it's limited and then all of a sudden it becomes kind of rad. You are correct. Kind of hype. Uh, subscribe to this podcast and don't forget about the Jocko Underground. We've been rolling those out.


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[Assistant] Talking about some detailed information, giving lots of Q&A. So there's a, there's a way to access us for questions. If you want to ask a question, we can answer it on jacounderground.com. Go and check that out if you want to support us. DIY!


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[Assistant] Right, cause you can't, you can't let the man control everything. You know what I'm saying? You can't give power to the man.


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[Assistant] You can't. You don't want to. You gotta create your own platform over on the side in case you have to escape out the side hatch.


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[Assistant] So we're ready. Jocko Underground dot com. You want to kick in a little eight dollars and 18 cents a month? It's cool. We appreciate it. We'll be ready.


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[Assistant] So, that's that YouTube channel. Subscribe to the YouTube channel.


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[Assistant] Don't forget about Origin USA, they have a YouTube channel. Uh, flipsidecanvas.com. Dakota Meyer making cool stuff to hang on your walls. Got a bunch of books. I've written a bunch of books.


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[Assistant] If you want to check those out, check them out. You can get them anywhere. You get books. You can also check out.


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[Assistant] Good to go. We also have Ashlandfront.com. This is a leadership consultancy. We work with all kinds of companies.


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[Assistant] If you have problems in your organization, they're leadership problems. I'm here to tell you. So if you want help with that, go to echelonfront.com for details. We also have some live events. We got the muster coming up. We got Battlefield. We go and walk Gettysburg. We go and walk Little Big Horn.


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[Assistant] Get the lessons learned from those. So check that out, epsilonfront.com. Also we have a training academy.


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[Assistant] To be better. To be better in life. Extreme ownership dot com. You want to take ownership of your life? You want to end, if you want to ask me a question live?


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[Assistant] Goldstar families, check out americasmightywarriors.org. That's Mark Lee's mom, Mama Lee. Great organization. Also, heroesandhorses.com. Check that one out. And, and don't forget, for Andrew Huberman, you can find him at hubermanlab.com.


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[Assistant] And on YouTube and on Facebook, he's at Andrew Huberman, and then on Twitter and on Instagram, he's at Huberman Lab. And as far as Echo and I go, we're both on Twitter. We're on the Gram. We're on Facebook.


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[Assistant] Echoes at Echo Charles. I'm at Jocko Willink. Look, no matter what you're going on there for, just, just watch your back. Cause the algorithms can sneak up.


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[Assistant] We learned a lot about that today. That dopamine hitter. You're trying to get that dopamine hitter. Next thing you know, you're a dope. So be careful.


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[Assistant] And thanks once again to Andrew Huberman for coming on. Really again, he's putting a lot of great knowledge out there and we definitely appreciate it. So thanks Andrew for driving all the way down here to make this happen and I look forward to returning the favor in the future. And of course,


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[Assistant] Thanks for the service of our police and law enforcement, firefighters, paramedics, EMTs, dispatchers, correctional officers, border patrol, secret service, all the first responders out there.


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[Assistant] You all do what you do so that we can do what we do and we appreciate it. And to everyone else out there, everyone else out there, uh, look.


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[Assistant] If you know the enemy and you know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.


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[Assistant] If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.


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[Assistant] Sun Tzu, Art of War, covered that on podcast 23 by the way, which is over five years ago, I believe, at this time. So, it's a real common quote though, we have to learn from ourselves, we have to learn our mistakes, we have to learn our strengths and weaknesses, but we have to learn


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[Assistant] In order to know those things, we have to study our enemy, we have to look at that, look at what they're doing. At least we should, we should be looking at our enemy. And in some good times, we


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[Assistant] What they did right, what they did wrong, what they had revealed in their own manuals. So we got copies of some of the Nazi manuals about leading troops in combat.


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[Assistant] They have interviews or, you know, they, they,


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[Assistant] I had quotes, they have quotes from people that they talk to, German officers that they talk to.


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[Assistant] And, you know, at first you think, oh, what, what, what? You kinda think, my, my first thoughts were, oh, this is gonna be really interesting to see these, these,


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[Assistant] Totally different viewpoints on leadership, right? These are Nazis. These are the most horrible people ever.


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[Assistant] Okay, so this is going to be, they're going to be totally different. Well, you're going to see that they're actually not that different and you can see much of what they say at a tactical level is very similar to what any leader is going to say. And that sounds crazy, right?


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[Assistant] And that's why you gotta realize, and I think when we, when we covered, when we covered Mao,


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[Assistant] And yet, this same guy that says that about how to win a war, says, oh, but for the government, we're gonna centralize everything. We're gonna centralize farming. And we're gonna tell you what to plant and when to plant and how much to plant, and you're all gonna die because it's not gonna work.


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[Assistant] So, it's a similar thing here, where


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[Assistant] You can see clearly that there's a huge disconnect between the leadership on the battlefield and then what's going on with Hitler, the Nazis, and the way that they were thinking, the way Hitler was thinking.


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[Assistant] Uh, but some of the stuff is pretty disturbing too.


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[Assistant] When you, when you think about how this whole nation was captivated. And you know this is something that the plasticity of the human mind is something I've been talking, I've been talking a lot about it on.


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[Assistant] On the academy. And just how people are so gullible. And it's, they're, they can be, if you're not careful, you can get manipulated very easily. And there's no greater example of that than the Nazi party in Nazi Germany.


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[Assistant] Just, manipulation of the brain, people, people, crowd, mob mentality, which we talked about in the underground, mob mentality going on, and if that, well, he's doing it, she's doing it, I guess we're doing it, and let's go.


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[Assistant] And then you think about, you think about how, uh, I mean look at society today. Look at American society today. Look, a trend will go across American society today and you'll think, whoa, that's a trend. We can spot it.


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[Assistant] But people still do it, right? People are in the trend and they're believing it.


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[Assistant] 27 year old person that got caught up in some trend and kinda went down in some weird way.


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[Assistant] It went down. It went down, yeaah, like went, went off, let's say went, changed directions pretty radically in their life.


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[Assistant] Now, once somebody's 50 or 60, you ever know of someone that's 50 or 60? It can still happen, but more rare, right? Yea, yea. I mean basically as you get older, you're a little harder to manipulate, it would seem. It seems that way, yea.


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[Assistant] And so when I start talking about the Hitler Youth, you're gonna be thinking, you know, keep that in mind.


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[Assistant] Here's a 10 year old kid, an 11 year old kid that's getting indoctrinated that doesn't know anything else.


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[Assistant] Then you can see where that's, you can see where that's gonna end up.


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[Assistant] The, the thing about the Third Reich from a military and leadership perspective, look, there, there was a lot of them, 13, almost 14 million soldiers in the German army, and they were efficient.


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[Assistant] They were efficient and they use, are you going to see it? I don't know. I, I don't speak German obviously, but the translation, they use that term efficiency a lot, almost like it's a little bit scary.


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[Assistant] You know, you know where it's like hey is it it wouldn't be more efficient if you only had four three kids instead of four You know I'm saying like that kind of that kind of scary thing. So we're to come across that word efficiency and and and the


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[Assistant] The German military, the Third Reich military was very effective and efficient at the beginning of the war.


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[Assistant] And many people would, I mean look at what they did, they steamrolled through Europe, very easily.


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[Assistant] And a lot of people would say that they continued to keep up a very efficient methodology until that's when the Nazi generals were running the show. When you had guys like Rommel that was actually making calls. Rommel who, by the way, eventually got executed by, by Hitler.


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[Assistant] But he was, you know, he was one of the guys that was running the show. And the further along the war went, the more Hitler started calling the shots.


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[Assistant] But they had some things that were causing them to be so effective early in the war. You know, they used mission type orders, they utilized decentralized command. Not so much a leadership perspective, but they had some really good weapons.


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[Assistant] BH Ladell Hart, who we've covered on this podcast, he, he, he, here's a quote from him from, from his studies.


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[Assistant] On a man for man basis, German ground soldiers consistently inflicted casualties at about a 50% higher rate than they incurred from the opposing British and American troops under all circumstances.


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[Assistant] This was true when they were attacking and when they were defending, when they had a local numerical superiority and when, as was usually the case, they were outnumbered, when they had air superiority and when they did not, when they won and when they lost.


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[Assistant] So, they were good at inflicting casualties on...


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[Assistant] American and British troops. They were better than we were inflicting casualties on them.


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[Assistant] You know obviously more numbers and more aggressiveness over a extended period of time. But that's just one example of


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[Assistant] The effectiveness of the German military in World War II. Again, especially in the beginning of the war.


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[Assistant] And, and there's, there's more points like that, but I don't wanna, I don't wanna drill down onto that debate or, or go deeper into that.


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[Assistant] But there's no one that's gonna say that the early German World War II military was not an extremely effective military force.


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[Assistant] And of course, I mean, we have to say that it did fall apart eventually against an incredibly adaptive and brave and smart and capable allied force. And I would say one of the best things about us Americans is we learned and we adapted. And I think that's something that maybe


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[Assistant] You know, part of our culture is that we are able to do that. And when we allow ourselves to do that, it's gonna be one of the most beneficial things we can do. It's like, oh you know what, this isn't working, do something else.


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[Assistant] And I would say that the Germans were kind of the opposite. The further the war went, the less they adapted. The less they changed their strategies and their tactics.


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[Assistant] And what causes you to not change your strategies and tactics? It's when your ego gets too big. What causes your ego to get big? When you're winning a lot. So just look what happened. The Germans are winning a bunch. They don't, they think that everything they're doing is right. We're losing. We're like, okay, we gotta make adjustments. The British are saying we gotta make adjustments. So we start making adjustments. They don't.


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[Assistant] Look, ultimate simplified terms, right? And I'm not trying to make a historical case, I'm just trying to review


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[Assistant] An assessment of some mindsets, broadly speaking.


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[Assistant] This report is, is an interesting report. Again, it's written in 1942, and uhm,


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[Assistant] Let's take a look at it. What can we learn from it? That's the main thing. What can we learn from it? So this is September 17th, 1942. The report is called German Military Training.


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[Assistant] And it comes from the Military Intelligence Service of the War Department


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[Assistant] Notice the information summarized here is based on a variety of sources on German manuals on technical articles in German military reviews and above all on the detailed reports of United States observers who saw the German army at close range in its work of preparing for this war and during the first two years of conflict. That's where it came from. Introduction.


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[Assistant] This bulletin proposes to summarize information which will serve three purposes. One, it will permit a better appreciation of the bases of the German military strength. The strength of the German army and its early success in this war owe much to two factors, planning and training.


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[Assistant] They prepared for it by a system of military training which begins with children of high school age. The training system was directed by the old professional army. It depended on effort, thoroughness, and the application of old and tested principles to the means of modern warfare.


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[Assistant] As an observer remarks, the Germans believed that by hard work and hard training, they would quote, save blood later. And that's almost like a word for word quote from Patton.


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[Assistant] Of characteristic German tactics. Those principles of tactics and leadership which are emphasized in training are inevitably reflected in the actual conduct of operations. While this bulletin will make no detailed study of German tactics, it will bring out the main doctrines which are applied in battle as a result of training.


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[Assistant] Number three, it will suggest methods and points of view which may be useful in training U.S. troops.


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[Assistant] So like, what can we learn from this? That's what they're saying. There are many basic similarities between US training doctrines and those of the German army.


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[Assistant] Though there are naturally many differences in their use or application. We can learn from the differences as well as the similarities. As far as possible, concrete examples have been given and in the appendixes there are detailed illustrations.


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[Assistant] At some length of certain phases of the German training methods.


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[Assistant] So, training and preparation for military service. This is where you start thinking. This is when you start thinking.


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[Assistant] This is gonna be a problem. If you're watching this, this is from 1934, if you're watching this from the outside, you gotta be thinking to yourself, this is gonna be an issue.


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[Assistant] Here's what they got going on. The Nazi government from the start was dedicated to the purpose of war of conquest. And from 1934 on, the party controlled and directed every aspect of German life to the same.


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[Assistant] So right there, if you're looking on the outside, you, you gotta, you gotta realize we're gonna have an issue.


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[Assistant] This is like someone that's training, lifting, doing jujitsu, like this whole person's life is for work.


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[Assistant] That's what the whole German world was. German military leaders have followed Klauswitz for years, but only under the Nazi regime could his key concept of total war be realized. The principle that every agency and every individual of a nation must be used in the effort of war.


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[Assistant] Nothing is more revealing of Nazi plans and methods than the application of this principle in a very broad program of military training.


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[Assistant] The goal of this program was a large and highly trained army, but the shaping of this army was not left to the two years of actual military training for conscripts.


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[Assistant] From the age of 14, boys were to receive a preparation for military service, which would cover much of the basic training ordinarily given recruits. So starting at age 14, you're starting to get trained.


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[Assistant] At age 14. So you're getting indoctrinated and you're getting trained at age 14. In addition, men older than conscript age with or without previous military service were to be given various types of auxiliary background or refresher training. It doesn't matter who you are. If you're not in the military, you're getting military training.


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[Assistant] A National Socialist Flying Corps sponsored instruction in the rudiments of flying and in glider practice. The National Socialist Motor Corps trained a large reserve of youths in all type of driving for mechanized service and thus relieved army motor schools of many hours of instruction.


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[Assistant] A German article in 1940 claimed that 125,000 men had been given experience in military motorization.


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[Assistant] A motor boat corps cooperated with the Army and Marines to prepare men for water transport operations. So think about that.


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[Assistant] You've got 125,000 men that have been trained to drive vehicles, large vehicles, military type vehicles. I mean, right now there's only 400,000 men, men or women in the U.S. Army right now.


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[Assistant] And by the way, you've got people that know how to work on the vehicles. And by the way, you've got a whole bunch of people that know how to fly planes. Kids. That know how to fly gliders.


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[Assistant] The activities of the party are particularly concerned with the indoctrination of all German citizens for war. The basic ideas in this indoctrination are well known and are reiterated in Hitler's speeches. The theory of Germany's natural rights, the concept of the master race, the exaltation of the state and leader, the glorification of war and military virtues.


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[Assistant] The press, the schools, press, radio, and movies are controlled by the party and support its efforts in every direction by propaganda which has no, has to fear no rival.


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[Assistant] The penal code prevents any free discussion in the field of ideas. Every German household belongs to a local unit organized to carry out the party educational program.


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[Assistant] So they're down for the cause. There's no, you don't know anything else. Yeah. And if you think about anything else, you're going to get found out and it's going to, you're going to get straightened out. That's what's going on.


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[Assistant] A German lieutenant has summoned up this work of indoctrination in his parents home.


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[Assistant] In school, in the Hitler youth, in the subdivisions of the movement, in the shop and in the labor service, the future army recruit has been bred as a national socialist. He does not know anything else but allegiance to the national socialist state and the life work of being a German.


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[Assistant] Training of the German youth. The Hitler youth. At the age of 10.


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[Assistant] German boys are brought into the Nazi scheme as members of the Young Volk. Young Volk. Organization and receive their first taste of official indoctrination. Real shaping for the army begins at 14 when they enter the Hitler Youth.


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[Assistant] Even before the war, this organization was mainly concerned with preparing boys for the army, both by instilling military mental attitudes and by military training. A US observer gives the following description of an exercise of German boys carried out on a Sunday morning. So this is a Sunday morning. We got some German boys out there doing some, uh, doing an exercise.


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[Assistant] Two groups, one mixed, one of mixed Hitler youth and one of, one of young folk.


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[Assistant] The enemy is reported advancing from the south to the north through Greenvald Forest. At seven o'clock he was reported to be entering the et cetera, et cetera. My mission is to determine at once and report to headquarters the position and activity of advanced units. My sector is et cetera, et cetera.


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[Assistant] It will not be necessary to go into the young commander's estimate of the situation and his orders to his subordinates. They would have done credit to a professional army officer. This is a 15 year old kid.


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[Assistant] That boy, still two or three years from active service as a private in the army, was able to estimate a difficult situation and organize and put into execution a rather complex plan to carry out his mission on a sector of n- sector nearly a thousand meters wide.


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[Assistant] He in turn sent frequent written messages to some posts to his rear.


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[Assistant] The observer was frankly amazed at this performance and spent the entire morning with this group to be sure there was a certain amount of laughing and horseplay among the boys. This was not repressed, but any lack of attention to duty called forth an immediate and severe rebuke from the leaders.


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[Assistant] It was evident that the youngster in charge was on his own.


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[Assistant] But the boy leader did not fail in his. He finally recalled all of his units with skill, marched them to the rear, and very ably praised and criticized individual performance on the whole. It was a remarkable demonstration of how German military leadership is developed.


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[Assistant] 14 or 15 year old leader and then a bunch of 10 year old little Nazi soldiers out there on a Sunday.


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[Assistant] Another observer saw Hitler Youth Organization engaged in battalion maneuvers and reports that their performance would be credible to regular troops.


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[Assistant] In 1939, the Stormtrooper section of the Nazi party took charge of the Hitler Youth.


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[Assistant] The Hitler Youth has been used in various, in a variety of auxiliary services during the war, spotting aircraft, performing office work at airports, painting runways, harvesting crops, tending children,


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[Assistant] In day nurseries, collecting useful junk and trash, soliciting for the winter help, singing at the hospitals and putting on entertainment for soldiers at the front.


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[Assistant] And obviously as the war went on and they lost more, uh, adult males, the Hitler youth started fighting as well. But this is where they started off. The following statistics based on estimate by a US observer suggest the scope of the variety of the Hitler youth activities.


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[Assistant] The motorized units of the Hitler Youth enrolled 295,000 boys each year. The National Socialist Party set up 1,300 repair shops for the units and each year provided them with 5,000 motorcycles.


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[Assistant] The Hitler Youth Marines had an annual enrollment of 78,000.


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[Assistant] The National Socialist Party supplied the Hitler Youth with 10,000 revolvers a year and a large number of rifles. Enough rifles were furnished to enable 30,000 outstanding marksmen to participate in rifle matches. The Hitler Youth had its own firearms school.


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[Assistant] During an average 12 months, the Hitler Youth conducted 3,540 official outdoor camps which were attended by 565,000 boys. That's every 12 months.


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[Assistant] That's bigger than the U.S. Army, by the way. 565,000. That's bigger than the U.S. Army. That's bigger than the United States Marine Corps.


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[Assistant] It's a real problem, but there's a whole bunch of things going on there. Just, just the fact that they, they're, they're, they're foresight is so strong that they're going, hey, look, we're gonna be fighting a war in X number of years. We need people that can work on vehicles. We need people that can fly planes. We need people that can drive vehicles. We need people that can fight. We need people that can, can shoot well. Like, they're just covering all the bases.


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[Assistant] And we'd have to, I'd have to do some more research on this, but I can tell you, from what I know, the term forced,


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[Assistant] Is not like a great term to use. Because everyone was so swept up in the movement, that it was more like, that's like saying, uh,


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[Assistant] During World War II in America, you know, Americans were forced to start a victory garden.


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[Assistant] You know what a victory garden is? Victory gardens where you go out in your yard and you plant tomatoes and carrots for yourself so you didn't have to, so you could, you didn't have to, uh, get stuff from the store. Oh, okay. So you could, so everyone didn't need to take supplies away from the soldiers.


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[Assistant] So when you see like the young Hitler youth, they're not like being dragged away to camp. No, they're, they're fired up to go.


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[Assistant] And that's what we're doing and that's what they've been told and, and they're also getting told like, well this is what we do and this is what makes us better than everyone else.


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[Assistant] Next section is labor service. At the age of 18, German boys entered a compulsory labor service for a six month term. The labor service work gave them excellent conditioning and hardening.


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[Assistant] That stuff brings you together and makes you feel good and makes you a better person.


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[Assistant] And it makes you bond with your friends. You want to get people together? You want people to bond? Make them do hard stuff together.


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[Assistant] Shared suffering. So we're going to go out. We're going to work really hard in the fields. And at the end of the day, we're going to come back and we're going to have meals together and we're going to go out and do the next thing, the same thing the next day. And people that work hard are going to be rewarded and people that slack off are going to be cast out.


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[Assistant] So you see what I'm saying here? This is like a huge, unifying thing. It's not that, it's not forced labor like, oh god they're gonna put, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] Oh, here's your chance. Hey, you're gonna get to go to, to get to go to the, the, the, the labor service.


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[Assistant] Oh, you're old enough to do labor service now. It's gonna be great.


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[Assistant] With the outbreak of the war, most of the male labor service units were transferred to the armed forces to serve as construction companies.


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[Assistant] And the size of the units were increased from 200 to 400, in some cases 600. On December 20th, 1939, a law ordered that normal labor service for men was to continue despite the special war work of the construction companies.


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[Assistant] The labor service youths perform miscellaneous tasks in rear areas being kept out of combat areas as much as possible.


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[Assistant] And also says generally the girls branch performs none of these duties except pertaining to agriculture. They work in factories and do other types of work on the home front. So the females were going into this too.


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[Assistant] But the males were cultivating farms in occupied areas.


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[Assistant] Doing agricultural work in Germany, wherever there are labor shortages, constructing and maintaining important highways, constructing and improving fortifications, bridges and airports.


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[Assistant] Salvaging equipment, munitions and material in battle areas, policing battlefields, performing sentry duty in occupied areas, camouflaging in sandbagging military establishments, and assisting in the transportation of food, ammunition, and fuel during rapid military advances. So they're basically just full combat support.


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[Assistant] Hey, when, when people are finally ready to serve at 19, we're already gonna have them almost completely trained up.


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[Assistant] They're, they're gonna be almost completely trained up. We don't have to waste, I mean, Marine Corps bootcamp is 13 weeks. And then you go to the School of Infantry. The Army bootcamp is...


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[Assistant] I don't know, 8 weeks, and then you go to AIT, the army infantry training. So, so you're gonna, it's gonna take some time. It's gonna take 4, 5, 6 months to get someone ready to fight. They're cutting 2, 3, 4 months out of that program. Which is a big deal.


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[Assistant] Furthermore, German boys had received good opportunity to practice and develop qualities of leadership and officer material was already clearly marked out by the time they reached military age. So they're, they're looking for leaders.


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[Assistant] One of the most active branches of the Nazi party, the SA, had particular responsibility in connection with the Hitler Youth. In addition, the SA performed important functions in giving a certain amount of military training to older civilians both within and outside its own ranks.


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[Assistant] The SA as a military reserve, when the Nazi party was rising to power, the SA and the elite guard, the SS, was in effect a private army of Hitler. When he seized control of the state, the SA was gradually merged into the framework of the military system and became more closely connected with the regular army.


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[Assistant] By 1935, more than a hundred divisions called brigade of SA troops had been organized, including men over 45 years old. The regiments were named after their old pre-versailles units and carried on their traditions.


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[Assistant] Only a few units were technically part of the armed forces and the main function of the SA was to provide continuous and effective military training for a large mass of civilian populace outside the regular two year service conscripts in the regular army.


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[Assistant] By 1939, the SA had been organized to provide specialist training in such lines as cavalry signaling, engineers, medical service, and Navy.


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[Assistant] One of its important jobs was given to military training of men over 21 who had not received any training in the pre-Hitler years when Germany's army had been restricted to a small standing army.


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[Assistant] gave a coveted sports medal on a basis which shows how very well everything in their program was pointed toward military service. The examinations for this medal include aside from running and swimming tests, rifle shooting, camouflage, hand grenade throwing,


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[Assistant] Marching 25 kilometers with a 25 pound pack and a 200 meter dash in gas mask, etc. By 1939, this sports medal had been acquired by 800,000 men outside the SA ranks. This is total war and we're all, that's what we're doing.


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[Assistant] It's crazy to think as you watch World War II unfold.


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[Assistant] That Hitler was able to push as hard as he did and get his getaway with as much as he did without somebody going, hey bro, you're done. You can't do this anymore.


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[Assistant] An important aspect of the SA control of the reservists was the fact that all these men would remain completely under the influence of the Nazi party and doctrine and controls.


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[Assistant] In conclusion, with the approach of war, the SA members were largely called into the regular armed forces as individuals rather than by units. Enough of the leaders remained, however, to continue to work with the Hitler Youth and with other older civilians not yet called out.


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[Assistant] According to one estimate, 1,500,000 men were receiving essay training largely on Sundays and evenings in the spring of 1940. The work done by the essay provided a great mass of partially trained men in all age groups who would be, who could be quickly organized and used in regular divisions on the outbreak of war.


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[Assistant] And they knew it was coming. And it's strange to think that the rest of the world


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[Assistant] I mean, the rest of the world knew it was coming. You can go back and look at those old, like, uh, political cartoons, and you'll see all the political cartoons are showing Hitler and Germany just getting ready to go ham.


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[Assistant] In preparing for the large army used in his war of conquest, Hitler faced the serious problem of developing an adequate number of trained officers to operate 300 or more divisions and the various specialized corps and services. This problem was solved in large part between 1933 and the beginning of the war.


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[Assistant] One advantage at the start was that the small standing army permitted by Germany by the Versailles Treaty had been excellently trained. So after World War I, Germany wasn't allowed to have a big army, they were allowed to have like this little tiny army, and so they focused on that army really hard and got them very well trained.


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[Assistant] Also to preserve the best traditions of the old German army and constituted a valuable reservoir of officer material for the rapid expansion of the new army.


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[Assistant] In addition, there were available many thousands of men who had served in the first world war and who could be used again. Many of these took part in the SA training activities discussed earlier. Finally, the German general staff maintained its high standards and prestige and was ready to deal with this problem of officer procurement.


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[Assistant] So, they knew out of the gate that leadership was gonna be an issue. And that they were gonna have to field good officers. And how do you do that? You need to recruit the right officers and then you need to train them properly.


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[Assistant] Army officers in this period throws light on the character of the army, its relation to the pre Hitler army and the high quality of standards prescribed for officers. The civilian youth wishing to secure admission applied to the particular regiment or unit of his choice.


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[Assistant] So if you wanna be an officer, you gotta apply to a specific unit. Hey, I wanna be an officer.


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[Assistant] He must be unmarried, be an Aryan, and have a certificate of graduation from a gymnasium. Which is apparently the equivalent to a second year, uh, US college work.


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[Assistant] He was given interviews by an examining board of officers and examinations which tested his moral qualities and his ability to stand up under strain. Much importance was attached to a psychological test.


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[Assistant] After passing these examinations, the candidate, now a cadet, served for one year in the ranks of the unit which received him. So that's pretty cool.


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[Assistant] So you apply, they screen you, they test you, they see how you respond to pressure. If they accept you, you go in and you become one of the troops. You don't become an officer, you just become one of the troops. And you serve in the ranks.


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[Assistant] There he received the same training given ordinary recruits and enjoyed no favors.


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[Assistant] It was desired that the cadets should thereby learn to understand the mental attitudes, problems, and points of view of the common soldier.


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[Assistant] On the side and in addition to regular training, the cadets did special study on the use of weapons.


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[Assistant] After this year, so after a year of that, so you're going to be a normal trooper.


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[Assistant] After, after this year the cadets were sent to a military school for nine months and received basic training in military theory, identical for all branches of the service.


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[Assistant] So that's a pretty good move. You take everybody from the army, navy, air force, marines, you put them all through the same training so they all have a baseline of knowledge and understanding.


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[Assistant] Finally, the cadet performed two or three months tour of duty back with his regiment, and then, if elected by unanimous vote of the officers in his unit, he was received for promotion, for promotion as a second lieutenant.


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[Assistant] This method which bears the hallmark of the old Prussian aristocratic tradition was mod, was modified gradually by provisions which made it more possible for reserve officers and specially qualified NCOs to obtain commissions. That is a thorough screening process to get to be a, an officer in the military.


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[Assistant] Even, I mean, you come back from all that training and then they have to have a unanimous vote that you're good to go.


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[Assistant] And only then do you become a second lieutenant?


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[Assistant] He said that there's the hallmark of the old Prussian aristocrat. That seems a lot less aristocratic.


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[Assistant] Then, then the American system, the American system, you become an officer to go to college.


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[Assistant] So if you're my, if Echo is my kid, and I'm like, well, you know, I kind of want you to be in charge, I'm gonna send you to college. And then you can go be an officer.


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[Assistant] Here, you gotta apply, then you gotta get screened, then you gotta serve as a grunt, then you gotta get screened again, then you gotta go to this school for nine months, then you gotta get come and get voted on to see if you're gonna be an officer or not.


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[Assistant] Yes, uh, so it's, it's an aristocratic thing. I want, oh, I'm a rich aristocrat. I want my son Echo to be a leader. I don't want him being with the troops. I don't want him to be with the enlisted swine. No. So I'm gonna send him to college and then he becomes an officer.


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[Assistant] That's probably conceptually, but that has nothing to do with anything.


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[Assistant] That grew up in Wisconsin on a farm and the parents didn't have any money to send him to college so he enlisted in the army.


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[Assistant] He's not going to be caught up to the guy that was grew up in, uh, with a rich family that was like, listen son, you're going to college and you're going to be an officer.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's, it's the aristocr, it's the, that's why I'm laughing because they're saying this is like the aristocratic tradition. I'm like,


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[Assistant] Hey, if you're, whoever wrote this in 1942, the officers were aristocratic tradition in America 100%.


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[Assistant] It's an aristocratic tradition. Oh, well you've been to college, so then you get to be in charge of all these people that haven't been to college.


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[Assistant] Right? But that's not the same as doing a year in a line unit. It's not the same, dude. And that you have to do that in order to get recommended.


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[Assistant] Because there's a lot of officers, if they actually spent time as a grunt, people would be like, oh, this guy ain't got what it takes. He might be able to graduate college. Being able to graduate college has almost no bearing on being fit to lead troops in combat.


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[Assistant] Yes. To, to achieve and get, get, get uhm. You put somebody with a line unit?


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[Assistant] They spend six months as a machine gunner, then they become a fire team leader. That person, you'd be able to go, hey, this guy's a really good fire team leader.


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[Assistant] Yeah. As a fireteam leader, he's not gonna be a good squad leader, he's not gonna be a good platoon leader.


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[Assistant] After you spend two or three months there. So you get, what do you think you're gonna go through in those two or three months? I'm gonna be testing you. Like if I'm one of the other awesome, be like alright, let's see how you're doing. Here, run a raid on this, on this training mission. Let's see how you do.


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[Assistant] That show was kind of messed up the way, I think it was an unintended consequence of the show, was that, you know, if who, the people that got, would get crushed first, would be the people that had the most potential. You remember that?


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[Assistant] Cause, cause you might be like, hey, let's, they had challenges, right? Two teams, and here's the challenge, and your thought should be, hey, I'm gonna help the team win this challenge, cause I'm good at, uh, uh, rope climbs, right? Hey, I'll, we gotta do four rope climbs, I'll do three of them.


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[Assistant] And, and, and then, you know, someone do the last one cause I'm gonna be tired. Okay, cool. Let's get rid of Jaco. He's too strong. You know what I'm saying? So that's actually what happened on that TV show.


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[Assistant] I just remember like one, one season of it. I think the first season that came on or maybe the second season.


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[Assistant] One of, like, most respected, awesome, old school seals, and he was pretty old when he did it.


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[Assistant] He, he unfortunately passed away, but just, uh, so, you know, everyone kind of was watching like see, see what the show was about.


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[Assistant] Actually two people, but. Did anyone ever make deals to say like, hey, if you and I win, I'll give you half.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's good to have multiple assessments, which is the program that we're looking at right here with the Nazi's data. Multiple assessments in the actual environment where you need to step up. And you're gonna get a decent result.


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[Assistant] More decent than said, well, you know, Fred went to college, so he should be in charge of a platoon of soldiers. You know? Hey, look, there's some great officers. The interesting thing is there's great officers that went to the academies. There's great officers that went to ROTC. There's great officers that went to OCS.


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[Assistant] And it kinda surprised me when I first worked with military academy officers.


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[Assistant] I thought to myself, hey these, these guys have been training for 4 years to be leaders.


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[Assistant] That was not always the case. And I realized that it was more about that you could have some awesome officers that went to the academy and you could have some terrible ones.


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[Assistant] And you could have all, you know, it didn't matter where they were from, it was who they were as people. That was what was much more important.


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[Assistant] And not that I knew how to read them, so that I would understand them better.


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[Assistant] And then I realized also writing a report, or writing an award, or writing an evaluation, same thing. I'm like, you'll know what I mean. No, I'm gonna make sure that my boss understands what this means.


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[Assistant] And then they get, then you watch a movie that they made from the book.


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[Assistant] Check this out, there's a book called Tom Jones, which is an outstanding book. It's an amazing book.


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[Assistant] It's probably 700 pages long with tiny, tiny, tiny writing and paper thin little sheets of paper.


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[Assistant] And it's really descriptive and it's about human nature. And it tells this story, elaborate story with all these different characters. And so we read this book, and then we watch the movie. In the movie there's no talking.


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[Assistant] Just picture any book, picture any book that you've ever read, and there's no, and then you take that, I mean just, uh, what's it, what's it like, take picture of Tom Clancy, what, what, have you ever read, what's a movie that was a book that you like? A movie, that was a book that I like, uh,


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[Assistant] Fight Club. Okay, so picture Fight Club, they take that book, and they make a movie and there's no talking in it. Because that's literally what they did.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know why they assigned that. Yeah, no, it was cool. It was cool. It was very cool to watch how they did it and just see the interactions and you could, you could totally tell what was going on just by the way they were looking at each other, the way they carried themselves, their body language, all this stuff. And, and it was pretty amazing to watch. True.


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[Assistant] And I would get, like, give us a quiz to check to make sure you read. You did the reading. So they give you a little check, and the check is, these are just questions, but you know, if you read it, you're gonna know.


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[Assistant] And I missed the first quiz about Tom Jones. I missed, I missed one question. And I was so mad. And here's what made me mad. It said, it says basically, this is a book about human nature.


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[Assistant] And the question was like, what is the- or it said like the main theme of this book is human nature.


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[Assistant] And so the question on the test was, hey, what is the main theme in this book? And I put like the kind of the plot that was starting to unfold, but that was wrong. And I was bummed out, missed it. That's the one question I missed in that class.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and actually my professor was really cool. Uh, she was cool and I had had another class and I was like, hey, uh, you know, doctor, you know, you marked this wrong. Just want to, you know, just show you that you accidentally marked this wrong, obviously.


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[Assistant] And she was like, oh no, it's a book of the theme of human nature. And I was like, well, where are you getting that from? And she points to the sentence that literally says that. And I was like, cool, I won't miss another question this semester.


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[Assistant] She said, I know John. Cause they all called me John. That's the only place in the world that that group of people called me John.


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[Assistant] I did. I happened to go to college afterwards. My program was very strange.


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[Assistant] Yes, there are. I don't know what they are, but they're pretty, I mean I don't think you could take like some totally crazy, uh, unapplicable thing, but you can, I mean I took English.


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[Assistant] You definitely can't pick something that's, like I don't think you could pick theater.


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[Assistant] Like, cause they'd say, hey, when, when actually, you know, you're gonna be standing up in front of people, you might wanna get good at public speaking, right? But I don't think you could take theater, I don't think, although I had one of my, uh, one of my assistant platoon commanders,


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[Assistant] He was, you know, as I was getting to know him, like, what did you study in college? You know what he studied in college?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's where he, he, he, that's where his degree was in percussion.


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[Assistant] Even French poetry might be more useful than percussion.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Hell yeaah. Absolutely. There you go. Alright. Uhm.


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[Assistant] So this seems like a very squared away methodology for them to select their officer. Now we get into the training. With the approach of the war, the programs for officer training were enlarged and speeded up.


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[Assistant] In 1940, US observers estimated that schools were turning out about 6,500 officers every four months.


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[Assistant] And that 30,000 new officers entered the army between September 1939 and December 1940. Man, they are on explosive growth curve.


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[Assistant] Men applying for the, for a commission in the regular army continue to undergo relatively long training course in principle as thorough as that of peacetime and quite similar in plan. Candidates for temporary war commissions apparently receive a shorter period of training, sometimes


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[Assistant] According to observers and reports for a few months only. All candidates for officer grades must have had 15 months of service and at least two months of experience in the field as a leader of a sectional platoon.


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[Assistant] Although these standards ensure that candidates have had considerable background training, nevertheless, expanding the German army to six times its peacetime figures has produced obvious problems.


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[Assistant] Many reserve officers and NCOs have been commissioned from the ranks and from veterans of the First World War. Civilians have been appointed to administrative posts. Older officers and civilian specialists have been thus used to free the line officer for his main task, leadership of troops in combat.


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[Assistant] Attention has been paid to the continuation training of officers in the field. So they had a way of taking, hey, like, Echo Charles was a video guy in the civilian world, and they're like, oh, you know what? You're gonna become an officer, but you're gonna be in charge of propaganda, and you're gonna go make videos for the Third Reich. And meanwhile, Jocko, who is a sergeant in the army,


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[Assistant] And was a platoon leader, or a platoon sergeant in the army, we're gonna make him an infantry officer. So they had a way of kind of putting people using, utilizing the knowledge that they had in a way that's gonna help the whole overall effort.


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[Assistant] Continuation training of officers. This has received a good deal of attention since the start of the war owing to the relatively short training received by many officers. The Germans are particularly concerned with the progressive training of company officers on whom depends the combat efficiency of the fighting units.


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[Assistant] One of the essential duties of a commanding officer in wartime is to ensure the further military education of his junior officers who must be made to realize that to stand still is to retrogress.


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[Assistant] But this is, this is so important. When you're in charge of people, you're in charge of training them and you're in charge of training your subordinate leaders. There's no training cadre, there's no big group up above you in the chain of command, you are in charge of it. And that's the same, should be the same in any company, should be the same in your life. You're in charge of it. Take charge of it.


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[Assistant] And then the main thing that they're trying to, they must be made to realize is that to stand still is to retrogress. That's what the Nazis were about. Blitzkrieg, right? We're moving. We're going to get after it.


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[Assistant] The concept of continuation training is broad. It involves a review of fundamentals with constant reference to the manual of troop leadership.


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[Assistant] Above all, the officer must prepare himself for emergency service in the next higher grade or for replacing comrades in other executive positions. It is the responsibility of senior officers to assist their juniors in training for the next higher grade.


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[Assistant] So they put such an emphasis on training their subordinate leadership.


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[Assistant] German sources illustrate these principles in the first place. Let us outline the requirements for the development of our officers. The strength of the German army has lain and still lies in the platoon commander at the front.


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[Assistant] Again, that's some good propaganda. You're telling these young lieutenants, you're the one that's gonna make a difference. It's like the Marine Corps, squad leader makes a difference.


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[Assistant] Very good propaganda. One would misjudge the lieutenant's mission entirely however if one would have him conform exclusively to the services of and requirements for a platoon commander.


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[Assistant] So it's not just platoon commander you're gonna be. Actual conditions require much more of the lieutenant than mere service as such.


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[Assistant] Any lieutenant may, at any time, have to educate, train, and lead a company, battery, or other similar unit, and any lieutenant may suddenly have to serve as a staff officer, or even as an adjutant, or a decamp.


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[Assistant] The prog, the progressive training of the officer corps must be carried out with this eventuality in mind. So you're not just trained to be a platoon leader, you're trained to be a company commander, a battery commander, a staff officer. That's where you're trained to do everything.


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[Assistant] If the officer is ready to serve in several different capacities at a moment's notice, he must be thoroughly indoctrinated in the fundamentals of tactics.


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[Assistant] Is that a great many young officers have no knowledge of the fundamentals of tactics. Many dangerous mistakes arrived from this fact and during lessons there is often vague discussion because of a lack of understanding. Lack of indoctrination is the most serious defect. It results in many unnecessary commands.


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[Assistant] One must insist, therefore, that thorough indoctrination of all officers regarding tactical principles is absolutely essential. Young officers must be thoroughly familiar with the tactics of all units up to and including the battalion. In this connection, much work is needed. Older officers must work to teach the younger ones, must work hard to learn.


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[Assistant] It is an open question as to which task is most difficult, but that is immaterial. The important thing is to attain clearly defined objective.


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[Assistant] The ideal desire here was summed up by a German officer in a conversation with an observer. We apply simple methods to our leadership. You will find that our lower units are so trained that many in them beside the leader is capable of taking command.


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[Assistant] So there you go. Keeping things simple. People, there's multiple layers of leadership ready to take over when needed.


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[Assistant] And we're training and indoctrinating them into the basic tactics so everyone knows and understand them. Standards for Officers, Section 5. The German Army tradition set high standards for officers both as to character and as to professional ability. Great attention is paid to this subject in professional journals and books.


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[Assistant] Particular concern is shown for officers of company rank. This is partly because in a rapidly expanding army it was necessary to observe and integrate a large number of new officers at lower grades. But it is also due to a conviction that efficiency and leadership standards of these officers are of crucial importance for the combat success of the army.


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[Assistant] These officers actually lead the units in the frontline combat.


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[Assistant] With this principle in mind, the German general staff has followed a policy which is described very clearly by a US observer. Quote.


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[Assistant] In the German army, leadership is emphasized more than generalship. The general officer must, of course, combine to an outstanding degree


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[Assistant] Proved qualifications for field leadership. Mental resiliency and executive capacity supported by unusual physical stamina and ruggedness of constitution.


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[Assistant] German general officers were selected on this basis prior to mobilization.


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[Assistant] They won their positions in the pre-war building, training, and equipping of the modern army.


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[Assistant] All of them have had World War experience. As far as we know, none of them has been relieved from command during operations. The efficiency and ability of these German generals seems to be taken for granted. They have received practically no publicity during the war.


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[Assistant] Only one general, General of Infantry Edward Deedle.


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[Assistant] Who commanded at Narvik has been brought before the public for his accomplishments. This was not for his generalship.


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[Assistant] But for the qualities of leadership displayed in situations normally met with leaders.


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[Assistant] So, they're not even hyping up generals. And you can see this is probably an ego thing. You know, like Hitler doesn't want generals getting any glory. He's like, hey give the glory to the soldiers.


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[Assistant] And, and you're the, you're a black belt and you win.


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[Assistant] But I'm like, hey, you know what, good job, you know, Fred, in the white belt category and on Monday I give a big speech and I give credits all like the junior troops. Cause you're kind of a threat. I'm like, I'm not giving this guy any credit.


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[Assistant] He says, on the contrary, leaders in the lower command have received a great deal of publicity since the outbreak of the war. So every young...


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[Assistant] You know, German soldier that does something awesome is getting this full blown credit. And by the way, well it was Hitler during World War I. He was a corporal.


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[Assistant] He was running around, uh, he was a communicator, he was a runner. So he's giving credit to those guys.


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[Assistant] Is not confined to a few individuals gifted with superior qualities. However, every effort is made to find the right place for each individual.


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[Assistant] According to his special aptitudes, and a good deal of shifting is done in order to accomplish this. So they take eyes and they go, oh you know what, you're not this, you know what, echo, you might be, wanna be over here in the propaganda area, cause you're not, you're good at making videos, but we're not gonna put you up there running troops. Your thing.


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[Assistant] And then they talk about character. And again, it's very strange to be reading a book about freaking Nazis and talk about their character. And, and you know, all that being said, and you're going to see some of this here, this,


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[Assistant] You were being told since you were 10 years old, hey, you need to support. You need to support the fatherland. You need to support the Reich.


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[Assistant] And you don't go against that. So if something doesn't look right...


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[Assistant] You know what? It's the rike. We're pushing on. You know, as you like to say, oh that's what we're doing.


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[Assistant] So character. The Germans fully realized the importance of character as a basis for successful combat leadership.


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[Assistant] Their teaching on military leadership reminds officers constantly of their responsibility to lead by example and self-discipline.


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[Assistant] A book called Company Commander, this is a German book, a book called Company Commander says,


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[Assistant] The company commander is a living example to every man in his organization. To be an officer means to set an example for the men. The officer must be his soldier's incarnation of soldiery, his model.


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[Assistant] If the German officer is inspired by this mission, the best and deepest qualities of his soul will be awakened.


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[Assistant] His life's aim will be fulfilled if he succeeds through knowledge, demeanor, and conviction in forcing his troops to follow him.


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[Assistant] This is the manly purpose for which it is worthwhile to stake life in order to win life.


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[Assistant] In Germany, the road to rank of officer is open to every capable soldier. The destination can be reached only by efficiency in time of war and by actions in face of the enemy.


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[Assistant] The real authority of an officer is recreated daily by his entire attitude.


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[Assistant] The ancient proverb applies. Earn it in order to possess it.


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[Assistant] The more his men are convinced that the authority of his rank is deserved through moral worth, the stronger will be the influence of the officer's personality.


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[Assistant] No one should accept that rank attained by promotion will give to his position authority sufficiently high enough for him to relax his effort.


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[Assistant] In the belief that the objective has been reached. Real authority is not dependent upon shoulder straps, stars and badges. It depends only on efficiency and worth.


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[Assistant] And this is, you know, uh, I always say if you have to pull rank in an argument, then you're wrong. And that's what they're saying here. It's not your badges, it's not your straps, it's not your stars that give you authority, it's who you are.


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[Assistant] And no, this is a great thing to remember. No one should expect that rank attained by promotion will give his position the authority sufficiently high enough for him to relax his effort. Dude, just cause you got promoted.


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[Assistant] Doesn't mean anything. You gotta work harder when you get promoted. That's what they tell you in the Navy. They're like, oh cool, you got promoted, cool, now you can work harder.


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[Assistant] The book just quoted says on the subject, discipline is the basic doctrine of the army. The objective of soldierly training must be to make it unshake, the unshakable principle of every individual.


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[Assistant] If the officer personifies physical and moral discipline and thereby sets the example for the conduct of his men, he will achieve his aim.


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[Assistant] Even in difficult situations, his authority will be unquestioned if he has convinced his men of his sincerity and leadership.


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[Assistant] The German soldier has an instinctive understanding, particularly the simple man of the moral qualities of his superior.


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[Assistant] He cheerfully follows a leader whom he respects, whom he could admire.


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[Assistant] This necessitates a large amount of self-discipline, both on and off duty, which includes not only cheerful and conscientious fulfillment of all duties,


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[Assistant] But also modesty in requirements for quarters and food, soberness in drink, self-control in sexual matters, cleanliness in speech, and a balanced character.


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[Assistant] End quote. So what are they looking for?


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[Assistant] They're looking for that leader to be beyond reproach. Now, I don't like that they say, hey, the leader doesn't need to be the most clever, but he needs to be the most faultless. And what that sets you up for is trying to cover for yourself. It's trying to act like you know everything. That's a problem.


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[Assistant] That's a problem, but the rest of it, trying to set an example on and off duty, right? Not over drinking.


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[Assistant] Discipline in everything that you do. It's weird they talk about self control and sexual matters, like why does that come up? That's weird, right?


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[Assistant] I get it, but like, why is that in here? This is what this, this is what a Nazi book said. Right? Self control and sexual matters. Cause there's some deviant freaks going on. And he's trying to tighten it up.


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[Assistant] Goes on to say the German military bible for company officers is the manual of troop leadership. This book gives their basic tactical and combat doctrine and is plenty to say on the moral aspects of leadership. The following are some quotations. Here's some quotations from their books.


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[Assistant] War is the severest test of the spiritual and physical strength. In war character outweighs intellect.


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[Assistant] Many stand forth on the field of battle who in peace would remain unnoticed.


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[Assistant] The example and personal conduct of officers and non-commissioned officers are of decisive influence on the troops. The officer who, in the face of the enemy, is cold-blooded, decisive and courageous inspires his troops onward.


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[Assistant] The officer must likewise find the way into the hearts of his subordinates and gain their trust through an understanding of their feelings and thoughts.


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[Assistant] And through never ceasing care of their needs. Mutual trust is a surest basis of discipline and necessity and danger. So there you go. There's a little dichotomy coming at you.


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[Assistant] Gotta be the hardest dude, but at the same time you gotta care about your troops. Through never ceasing care of their needs.


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[Assistant] Relations of company officers with enlisted personnel.


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[Assistant] German directives stress the desirability of comradeship in units as a moral basis for fighting efficiency. And again, the company officers are reminded of their responsibility. The company commander, this is a book again, the company commander says


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[Assistant] When the soldier learns by experience that he is being taken care of.


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[Assistant] And that is the officer as his best comrade who sees to this care, then he is ready.


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[Assistant] He will follow such a superior through thick and thin and will cheerfully perform the most difficult duties. Hey, Hitler, you might have wanted to read that paragraph when you left your boys at Stalingrad to get surrounded and freaking die.


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[Assistant] The officer must always set an example by his own conduct and soldierly qualities. He must never think of himself until his men have been cared for.


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[Assistant] I mean this is like leadership 101, right? Never think of yourself until your team is taken care of.


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[Assistant] Only such an example can convince of the moral right to demand services from others. Only the model life can confirm that right.


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[Assistant] The officer's own efficiency alone will emphasize the necessity of his orders.


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[Assistant] Again, you get that weird use of the word efficiency. It's a scary word. I don't like it when Nazis say efficiency. It makes me nervous.


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[Assistant] If the men copy the example set by the officers, officers and men will be joined.


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[Assistant] Tom Radley association and festivities place the officer in a situation basically different from that in times of peace.


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[Assistant] He must never represent a contrast to the privations and restrictions which the men necessarily take upon themselves and he must never forget that their need for association and festivity is no less great or justified than his own. So that's what that's saying right there is that when you're an officer,


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[Assistant] Burdens and privations, restrictions and negations are shared mutually and equally. Every company commander must be a Spartan.


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[Assistant] His must, men must feel that privations mean nothing to him. That he rises above such problems and that daily difficulties cannot break his spirit.


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[Assistant] Continuing on, the company officer is advised to be severe when necessary, but without resorting to abuse. To disciplinary punishment as rare, to use disciplinary punishment as rarely as possible. And always in a way that is clearly justified.


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[Assistant] To take an interest in the personal difficulties of his men. To maintain a cheerful atmosphere under all circumstances. To visit a- and converse with troops in quarters. And to take the greatest care in choice of supervision of non-commissioned officers. This does not seem like Nazi stuff.


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[Assistant] Right, yeah. Uh, disciplinary punishment is rare. Use disciplinary punishment as rarely as possible. And, and, uh, always in a way that's clearly justified.


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[Assistant] That's, it's interesting. Well, if, you know, at some point maybe we'll take the Nazi theories and apply them sort of through a military lens and what it would look like. Cause what you end up with is like a tyrannical leader.


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[Assistant] And you must comply. And everyone needs to shut up. And by the way, we're gonna blame... When something goes wrong, we're gonna blame everybody else, which is...


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[Assistant] Which is, the reason that Germany is having these problems isn't Germany's fault. It's the First World War and the Versailles Treaty and the Jews. So it's not our fault, it's everyone else's fault.


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[Assistant] So, if we took that sort of higher headquarters Nazi philosophy and put it through a mil- put it on the military lens, this would look a lot different.


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[Assistant] German officers are expected to give attention to the mental outlook of their men. And this includes giving them frequent talks on the war.


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[Assistant] The soldier must know what the war is, that the war is his personal affair, and he must be instructed on its causes, meaning and progress.


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[Assistant] It is believed that the soldiers who are informed as to why they are fighting and of their part in the battle will show improved discipline in combat.


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[Assistant] Newspapers, radio, and books are used to assist toward this end. An article in a military review advises the company commander to assemble his unit once a week for discussion.


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[Assistant] The father of the company should speak on all matters, official and unofficial, current events, politics, which influence the mental attitudes and morale of the men. Troop leadership reminds officers that, quote,


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[Assistant] The leaders must live with their troops, participating in their dangers, their wants, their joys, their sorrows. Only in this way can they estimate the battle worth and the requirements of the troops. Man is not responsible for himself alone, but for his comrades.


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[Assistant] He who can do more, who has greater capacity of accomplishment must instruct the inexperienced and weaker.


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[Assistant] Therefore, before the outbreak of war, the development and maintenance of steadfastness and discipline in the troops as well as their training is of decisive importance. So look, that's from their book.


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[Assistant] The precepts outlined above have been actually carried out as UFObservers have reported during the past few years. One report states, German leadership is based on mutual respect between officer and man. We were again impressed with the fact that cooperation between officers and men works both ways.


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[Assistant] These means are turned over to him for combined training by which his men are molded into a combat team. The members of this team must know their mission and work together for its accomplishment.


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[Assistant] Individual units are called upon to merge into the structure of the command team, of the combat team. The training phase permits commanders and staff to become thoroughly acquainted with all their officers. In this way, they learn one another's shortcomings and strong points so that many later misunderstandings are prevented in the stress of combat. Personal combinations thus built up often


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[Assistant] Become so strong that they are maintained through successive campaigns.


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[Assistant] Every effort is made to discourage rivalry between components of a team. For example, through march song, though march songs are highly regarded and developed, there are no songs about the superiority of infantry to engineers or artillery, etc.


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[Assistant] There are no intercompany or inter-battery athletics to develop useless competitive emotions. Commanders of subordinate units are so imbued with the feeling of cooperation that they go out of their way to assist one another. They cover and move for each other.


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[Assistant] Even the manual of a specialized branch shows this effort. Anti-aircraft gunners manual has a section on what these gunners must know about their employment as part of ground forces teams. Including a discussion of divisional tactics.


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[Assistant] The greatest factor in successful deployment of armed troops is speed in obtaining the initial coordination of arms and in the execution of a coordinated mission by various arms. So they are absolutely pushing for everyone to work together.


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[Assistant] That's what they're pushing for. We have to cover and move for each other.


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[Assistant] Their next principle is aggressiveness and initiative. Some people say default aggressive, I've heard.


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[Assistant] The prime characteristic of German tactical doctrine


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[Assistant] Is maintenance of the initiative and avoidance of stabilization. The Germans believe absolutely that if a trained commander prepares and executes aggressive moves, even, with even average ability and reasonable speed, the enemy will be kept too busy meeting them to carry out a successful offensive measures.


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[Assistant] A German officer phrased the concept in a way that can be understood by troops. Our men are taught that their own safety depends upon their getting to the enemy's rear and not staying in front of him. This is fundamental of our training. These guys are looking to flank all day long.


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[Assistant] Aggressive tactics require the use of initiative by combat leaders down to the platoon commanders and non-commissioned officers. Development of this capacity for taking the initiative is stressed at all points in military training whether theoretical or practical. No illusion surviving the First World War is more dangerous than the notion that German leaders


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[Assistant] So again, that's what they started this war off. This is 1942. By the end, Hitler was dictating.


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[Assistant] In actual fact, German leaders of small units have shown great skill in this war in adapting their tactics and flexibility to meet new situations. They have been trained to do this.


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[Assistant] The handbook on the German squad in combat illustrates the doc, this doctrine.


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[Assistant] Quote, in the execution of battle missions one should be most careful to avoid the idea that only one solution can be right, can be the right one.


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[Assistant] Only success in an actual case could prove that a given solution was the right one.


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[Assistant] Just calling out for flexibility and for free thought. I mean, free thought is the antithesis of Nazi attitude. Nazi attitudes, we're all gonna think the same thing. That's why we're gonna start indoctrinating when you're 10 years old.


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[Assistant] And ultimately this kind of thing, this is one of the things that leads America


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[Assistant] To have that open mind on the battlefield to see what we can adjust to figure out what we need to change and start winning.


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[Assistant] German regulations place due value on getting as much information as possible about the enemy as a prerequisite for action, but regulations also prevent this from becoming a requirement that cripples action.


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[Assistant] This is the dichotomy of leadership. Hey, look, you gotta get good information, but don't let it cripple you and wait for it.


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[Assistant] Seldom will one have exact information of the enemy. Clarification of hostile situation is self-evident, is a self-evident demand. However, to wait intense situations for information is seldom a token of strong leadership, but often one of weakness. So you gotta take action. You gotta be aggressive. That's gotta be your default mode.


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[Assistant] So the officer is taught to attack in order to clear up the situation. That's a great quote.


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[Assistant] You wanna know what's going on? Attack. You figured out.


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[Assistant] Omission and delay are regarded as greater crimes than the choice of the wrong method of action.


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[Assistant] In training exercises, the choice of a tactical method is subject to full criticism by reviewing officers, but no man is reprimanded because he tried to do something and failed. They want you to do something.


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[Assistant] That's kinda funny, like, if you were to, like, the grammar Nazi one? Yeah.