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[Assistant] You know, at advanced armament, we made some guns and SIG, we made guns. It was a big company. You know, there was a lot going on there. There's tons of purchasing, tons of.


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[Assistant] Resource with manufacturing but starting our company with Q


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[Assistant] Starting out with firearms, you know, where with silencers we have five unique parts. Well, with our guns, we have 117 unique parts.


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[Assistant] Wow, it's a different thing. So, so not having to rely on vendors where you have all that stuff readily available for 50 years of common use. I like it because, you know, for the average guy, how much is changing the scope mount?


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[Assistant] Or, you know, sure. I think the 700 should have larger screws like the, uh, the M24 rifles for the military. They always say eight forties. Yeah. And that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you're starting from zero, it's a better option, but you're also pigeonholing yourself. So the premier actions, so these are the premier rifles that you do. So at what?


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[Assistant] Oh yeah. So he's here. So he works for you. Jose was one of my favorite coworkers at advanced armament and he did Sarah coat for us. And, and, and for those who have seen my, uh, my baby, that sweet fix that is a blue and gold and leopard. So my buddy, Jose painted my hand garden stock for me. Gold, my favorite. I appreciate it.


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[Assistant] We're, we're getting there though. Um, well, let me ask you this. Okay. So you know, it's a premier, your premier rivals. So 1500 to 2200 we'll call it, but you know, you think about.


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[Assistant] What year do you think you bought your first AR-15? About 10 years ago?


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[Assistant] That's not that long. So, so I'll put some things in perspective. So 20, 25 years ago, AR 15 was $600 for a Colt or a Bushmaster. There's only like three companies that made them Olympic arms and they were shit, but Bushmaster was considered good and Colt was there were six, 700 bucks.


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[Assistant] Don't apologize. You're the boss. So, so if, if you go to white birch or any of our gun stores, I was just texting. So if you go to any of those guys and you're going to buy a good quality AR 15, let's say you got a buddy that makes a couple hundred grand a year, he's bald.


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[Assistant] He wants his first AR-15. What are you going to tell him to get?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I mean, I think that's an incredible price point in value for people. If they're getting a custom action, you putting trigger tech triggers in these.


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[Assistant] You know, but an AR-15, these $1500 guns, these are just people primarily buying parts and assembling guns.


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[Assistant] I was going to say, are you doing, you got three grand a gun. So what I'm telling you is pull your head out of your ass people, 1500 to $2,200 for this premier ball tech with an action that's made in America. You get aftermarket triggers that you're not going to want to replace hand laid carbon fiber stock. It's a value.


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[Assistant] I love it. You know, it's like testing the water, staying relevant, doing new things, but you know, that's also, um,


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[Assistant] A great thing about being in the position you guys are in, you know, you're not Savage and with all due respect to them, you know, you're not trying to compete on commodities or a budget brand and you're not trying to be $6,000 custom guns, but when you can get in that space and you guys have built a brand where you've got trust.


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[Assistant] Um, and loyalty and you make it a name for yourselves. It's based on quality and performance. You're able to do these sorts of things. And you know, bigger companies, I mean, Adam can tell you from being at SIG or, you know, me being at Remington, you want to do 500 or a thousand of something. Oh my God. You know, it's like flushing a million dollars down the toilet.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, I always say that the Ford Raptor like showing, you know, it's just kind of a loss leader, but we're going to show what we're putting into R and D and what we're capable of and what this can be if you want it to be. Oh, that's awesome.


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[Assistant] Mystery shirt. Oh, so we've got a great mystery shirt. Uhm, do tell.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Cause apparel is an interesting one. You know, like it started back at advanced garment with me and like, you know, you got the Begara vest on and that's cool. And.


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[Assistant] When, when advanced armament, I wasn't doing shirts and people wanted shirts. And I felt like if I was selling.


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[Assistant] You were sure I felt bad if it just said our name, like it would have to be something that I would want to wear. And I put a lot of effort back in the day at advanced arm of doing shirts that were cool, like skateboard shirts and stuff. I was into things that I would buy.


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[Assistant] And I kind of feel that way now. It's like, we have some standard shirts, just a queue or whatever.


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[Assistant] But, uh, you know, I want to offer a lot of stuff that's interesting and it's not too overtly gun stuff and it doesn't say Q all over it. Um, you know, it's just kinda, it's, it's like Elon Musk said, you know, you're not.


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[Assistant] When you buy a Tesla, you're not just like buying a car, but you know, you're buying into this like tribe. You remember the family. Yeah. And that's what we're trying to do with it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, some guys either aren't old enough or can't afford our products or whatever, but they can participate until they are at that point to purchase our, you know, our hard goods. But you know, it was the idea with the shirt. It's like, Oh, cause I'm not always like pro having a gun and stuff on your shirt. And it's, it's.


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[Assistant] It's just not my style. It's I mean, obviously I'm into guns.


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[Assistant] Um, but so I love the irony of this one where we put like a rainbow flag kind of under it and it confuses people and you take it a step.


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[Assistant] Um, further, like we basically had, we, we get a lot of gifts and I think, you know, Adam and myself and the company putting ourselves out there on social media. You know, I answer tons of, tons of questions, dozens and dozens and dozens, if not a hundred a day on social media myself.


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[Assistant] And we get lots of gifts. It's like, if people want something from our company, it's something we can do, but I don't really want to do it. It's like, okay, will you send us a pallet of beer? I'll do it. You know?


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[Assistant] And just random shit like that and people get engaged and they want to do it and they do it. And so then we're, our feet are held at the fire and we do it. But anyway, so a customer bought one of our shirts and got it and tie dyed it and send it back to me as a gift.


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[Assistant] You know, if you had said that to him, be like, whatever. I saw the shirt. I was like, that's fucking awesome.


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[Assistant] And I wore the shirt and then we just started doing them at the office. We got a laundry room at the facility and I noticed that. Yeah. So, um, yeah. So one of the guys, um, so, uh, Ivanka.


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[Assistant] And also, you know, I go to Africa next week and it's going to be summer. So I'm going to be hot as hell. And I've got camoed shirts now that represent our brand for the hunting show, you know, a field ethos.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I got some questions for you. Alright, what'd you got?


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're rotary mags, but, but the guns are awesome. So you guys have had some success with that. We have.


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[Assistant] I like that like 30% better and I might be wrong. I'm going to have to go home and do my homework. But yeah, I set you up there, but, um, okay. I'm all in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 22.


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[Assistant] Jose, can you talk to somebody in sales? Get me a couple of these. I need some threaded barrels. All right.


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[Assistant] Okay. Well, that's pretty cool. We got some questions though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's, let's start with these. Oh, this is the easy one. Let's see if you get it right.


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[Assistant] Okay. Great answer. Great answer. We'll take that because you guys got a lot of employees. Yes. With that being said, um.


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[Assistant] I have some understanding about Kate Buffalo, so you can't shoot it with this, uh, the, the BMR. No.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. You've already been, haven't you? I go a lot, but I'll be in, uh, I'm gonna go in two weeks. Okay. Going back. Yeaah, Phil Leithos, you should be on that trip. You skipped it. So yeaah, we're going to shoot some stuff. I don't know, Kate Buffalo gets in the way and I'm there. We might, you know, we might tussle a little bit. Mmm. But, but you're definitely gonna do it.


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[Assistant] I mean, man, those are tough animals, even by African standards.


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[Assistant] 45, because they're not, they're not big animals. No, for me, last time I was in Africa, I shot one, uh, 16 inch 308 with Horn D GMX. They're, uh,


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[Assistant] Monolithic, um, the GMX is their solid copper monolithic expanding bullet. Great for Africa. Three shots inside of 20 yards. Holy cow. And it ran 200 yards. Wow.


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[Assistant] Um, yeah, they're, they're tough animals, man. Niala's. Well, maybe I'll probably 500 nitro, but, um, but yeah, Niala's probably how that's one of the most beautiful animals that in the CUNY probably the most and bongo maybe, but most beautiful animals in Africa. I can't, you don't have a trophy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think a lot of people get hung up in that and, and I'm taking a couple of guns when I go next week. And so our buddy skipper at little Paul hooked me up with a Mark five, 3.6 to 18. Great optic. And, uh.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm going to use for a lot of stuff, so that's on my 6.5 gun.


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[Assistant] Um, but I've got a Swarovski, a Z8I one to eight on my 308. And you know, cause you know, over there, it's like, I'm going to take some shots. It'll be an excess of probably three, 400 yards and you'll have some shots that are things are running and they're inside of a


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[Assistant] I do like that. You want the field of view too. So even one power with a dots. Great. Yep.


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[Assistant] Well, whatever with those guys, they're not sharing. I don't care. No. Oh yeah. They're glass. I mean, the European companies with the glass and you know, they have such a rich hunting tradition, you know, and here it seems like our hunting traditions in America, it's like more economy based, which is annoying. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and over there it's a little different. Uhm, and just optics in general over there.


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[Assistant] Man, I mean, those companies, I mean, like, oh God, they're binos and stuff. So good. So good. I love it.


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[Assistant] Well, if field ethos is sponsored by them, maybe, maybe I'll be the all star of the show. I'll make sure I shoot the things with the smallest gun, the farthest there you go and get on this. Uh, some of these shows we're doing, maybe I'll get me some free glass. All right.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, yeah, that's their bank just bought out of bankruptcy and the rent, the gun part, which I'm not sure I even. I'm okay with this, you know, and who am I to judge? Cause I'm just an asshole, but, uh, you know, I think the Remington.


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[Assistant] CEO at the time they went into bankruptcy is in charge of the company. He raised money through private equity or something and bought them out of bankruptcy and is about to put it back in production. That seems shady as shit. I don't know.


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[Assistant] Are you guys growing every year? Yes. More than you expected? Yes. More than your boss expected? Yes.


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[Assistant] Well, I measured that as a success. Well, yeah. I mean, I think that's the thing. Like I'm very driven by competition. Obviously I'm fairly confrontational.


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[Assistant] Um, but, but the more we get into our own thing, we have for my, like when we made our minds up to do the fix, like I jumped into the deep end, like I'm not a billionaire. Like I'd been pretty fortunate and I was willing to fund it.


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[Assistant] That was a lot, but you had some for me. And so we get into that when I committed to that.


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[Assistant] I believed in it, didn't matter what anyone else is doing. And I don't even really watch a lot of the market.


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[Assistant] Anymore. So I don't know what other companies are doing, but I think we're in a place now, whether it's, you know, Adam's experience, uh, Ethan engineering and his team, mine in the industry, I'm real comfortable with who we are. And you're right. If we do the things that, that we believe in and we can execute reasonably well, we're going to be successful. I agree.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I believe in it. Like, um, yeah, we just got to do what we know is right. We've got to execute. We've got to maintain that culture. Um, and we're going to be successful. I believe in it. What the fuck's Begara mean?


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[Assistant] Well, is it the idea sort of like the optics when we talk about like, we talk about premium optics. We don't name like, Leopold's a great company. We talk about premium optics. We, we talk about Zeiss, Swarovski, like, uh, these European companies. Is that kind of the idea of that?


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[Assistant] The premium European products. We want to bring a European name to America, kind of like car arms. You know, that's Justin moon. He's a Korean American kid.


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[Assistant] Brilliant guy. He creates, uhm, a great pistol company.


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[Assistant] And to him, it was like all the great gun, his own words to me, all the great gun companies are German. So he came up with the name car. That sounds German. That's the sole reason he


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[Assistant] Cause I do know like in that part of the world, like I went to school in Spain and everyone's Catholic.


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[Assistant] Cause we were on the border as well, but I wasn't by deleting.


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[Assistant] Great food. Good food. Fantastic food. Interesting too. You're so close to France and you know, those communities have been there on either side of the border for thousands of years and they can't communicate. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Well, but yes, but otherwise part, but you know, where you guys are still speaking Spanish and it's in a traditional Spanish and like with the French, like, you know, how is it like, it's like here to Maine, like a few miles and they can't communicate after thousands of years. That's right. Um, okay. So.


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[Assistant] Favorite animal to hunt and eat and or eat.


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[Assistant] Us being from the east coast and you can't see more than a couple hundred yards. You get out there, you can see miles.


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[Assistant] What caliber do you use to mule deer hunt typically? Anything.


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[Assistant] I know it's, it's every time I go on a mule deer hunt, when I anticipate shooting something at 800 yards, I shoot something at 60. Okay. So, uh, favorite hunting silencer or favorite silencer, if you want to.


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[Assistant] Oh, for your life of hunting? That's a great choice.


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[Assistant] Six, five, 16 inches still gives you 500 meters plus of killing capability with the one 43 LDX from Hornady. And you know, the silencer, I want to not notice the silencer and I want to just it not to ring my ears when I shoot. So for hunting and stuff like that, when you make them short, like you say, maneuverable.


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[Assistant] Makes such a difference, whether you're slinging the gun and you're carrying it or you're in and out of a vehicle, you're in a blind. Yep. Yeah, that's a good answer. All right. I can, I can live with that.


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[Assistant] Okay, so here's another thing. So for your guns or a Remington based gun, a one or two piece mount, what do you like for your scope mount? Base and then, you know, optic mount.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So with the four point, basically you get more of the lower receiver. So you got a rigid action, right? Uh, but it is a total bitch for loading and unloading. If you got a one piece space, right? Yes. That is a cool trick. I didn't know that one. Yeah. It's, it changed my world. So obvious. I never thought about it.


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[Assistant] You're welcome. Yeah, that's a good one. So I, I, I, I don't disagree with you on that. Okay. That's good. All right. Favorite camo for hunting or clothes or what? What's that? Uh,


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[Assistant] It will change your life though. I mean, you and I are spoiled. We get stuff for free, but if you don't have good quality stuff, it changes your life. When you go on a cold or a wet hunt and you've got sick or you've got kuyu or you got some arterics, you got some good quality stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so you're not, you're not loyal to one type of camo. No. Alright, cool. Adam, you got anything else bud?


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[Assistant] Hey, I'm Kevin from Q. This episode of the Q and S podcast got a mother fricking sponsor. Tactical distributors, you're on fire.


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[Assistant] I skate in those, I go to the club in those pulling honeys all day. If I actually wore.


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[Assistant] You know, anything to go on my pool or hot tub. It'd probably be these board shorts.


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[Assistant] But these are summertime hunting boots. Thin sole, like skate shoes. They're lightweight. They breathe. They repel the water. A cool thing about tactical distributors. All right. Number one, cool motherfuckers. Number two, their return policy. Simple.


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[Assistant] Easy. I never know, cause I got like the fat feet. So this could be a ten and a half, could be an eleven. I don't know. Older two sizes, I pick one, send it back.


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[Assistant] It's no trouble. Let's get a little label. Send it back. Cost me no money. tacticaldistributors.com promo code. I don't know what you call it. Whatever code at the end. All right. Unpossible 15. Unpossible 15 gets you 15% off tacticaldistributors.com. Give them a look.


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[Assistant] Jesus Christ. Always a good time. Yeah. Good time. Down in Florida. So they had some of their homies send us some stuff. So thank you to these guys.


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[Assistant] Coats, is that coats? Yeah. Coats of anarchy. Yeah. So okay. That's, that's strange name for an old guy like me, but, um,


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[Assistant] So people always, well, I don't know if they ask you a lot, I get asked a ton about people to say, apparently there's a lot of guys that are now trained by this, but Sarah Coates done a good job marketing that whole thing. So, uh, Danny, who I put a lot of trust in, Ray is an attorney and clearly day drinks. So,


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[Assistant] Uh, also I'm down with him, but my level of trust when it comes to quality components of firearms or coatings, I'm not so sure. Uhm, so he sent us some old patches with the Baby Yoda and was that the Grim Reaper?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, honestly. I'm hurting this morning. Bruce Turd this morning. I'm awake though, I'm alive. Yeaah. So we did the podcast yesterday and you went and built a rifle yesterday. I did. Do you remember it?


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[Assistant] Remember parts of it. Great. Okay. Uhm, so what'd you think?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is very interesting. I mean, and I think, well, you're a smart guy in general, but working with Griffin and Hal and seeing how you guys do things.


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[Assistant] We're 100% the other end of the spectrum, as you said, but it's a similar mindset. Like, what do we do to be the best? It's just a new approach. Uhm, so I want to start with, if you don't mind, uhm,


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[Assistant] Well, I don't know. We talked about a little bit of your background yesterday, but your background, and then Griffin and Hal, because I had...


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[Assistant] Of course heard of Griffin and Hal, but I didn't even know they were still around, because I think, you know, a lot of people, and probably younger than me, uhm, aren't necessarily in the...


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[Assistant] That's, that's great to me. If that's what you want to know, that's what you should try. Especially when you're that age, like we're all so stupid at that age and trying to make life decisions. Go and get some discipline, learn some skills, see the world. I mean, and look where it gets you. You know, you learn some skills that lead to vocation for you. It's probably more exciting than


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[Assistant] Most are gonna have going to college and doing it that way. I believe that completely.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what are, what is, uhm, what do you think is your biggest takeaway from that? Like, what shaped you the most to like, who Mike Murphy is today? Five deployments in that part of the world during, you know, I mean, 01 to 2011, that was, that was


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean, that's a great attitude. Cause yeaah, people below you, I mean they...


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[Assistant] Yep, yep. Yeah, so uhm, Iraq, Afghanistan, what was more challenging, which one?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, did you, did you grow up with firearms at all? I didn't. Yeah, same thing.


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[Assistant] We knew. Yeah, just not something he did. So, so, so your exposure to it was absolutely the Marine Corps. Alright, so then what happens? You get out. What do you do?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean some of those things you don't find out until you go start pulling the trigger. What are some of the basic things? Like, uh, let's say basic things for marksmanship for long range. Like what are two or three basic things that are mandatory?


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[Assistant] Coming down his arm out of a shirt Marine Corps tattoo. And I asked Adam the other day, I was like, what is it with Marine Corps? You got to get a Marine Corps tattoo on your arm.


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[Assistant] And it is like there, there, there is some sort of connection that I don't quite understand, but it's real because like every one of them, yeah, it's kind of a.


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[Assistant] You know, kind of an old school, fancy rifle maker. And that's about all I know. And some of the old rich white guys that I know have older Griffin and Howell rifles.


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[Assistant] That's all I know. So, so what's the history of it? Cause it is, it's fricking fascinating.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess that's true. Don't think about it, but there wasn't really... Like a true sporting gun. Jason, was there anything, uh, that you can think of then? 1920s, it would have been like a great off-the-shelf hunting rifle for an American.


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[Assistant] Make this gun hat. That's how, that's how so many things happen. Like, Oh, my buddy can do this. I have a machine shop.


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[Assistant] Which nobody remembers. Mike, I'm sorry. Yeah. Thank God for that. All right. But it is how things happen a lot. You know, Magpul, which is a great, like, you know, I will say our generation, like I'm your age, but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, a company of this generation where it's a guy from the Marines. Yep. You know, Rich Vicks Patrick or whatever his name is.


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[Assistant] He came up with the idea, you know, of just basically the band on the bottom of the magazine, Magpul. That's the logo. Probably most people now don't even realize that company's so old. And so then he knew in the, in a little weirdo town of Boulder where he was, there was this industrial designer who was really smart, Mike Mabry, who, who, and they formed Magpul together because


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[Assistant] He could design that thing to be more than just like a bicycle inner tube with a paracord hanging off of it or whatever they were doing at the time.


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[Assistant] And that little mac pull started to come in, you know, and, and they just started, you know.


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[Assistant] When you all have day jobs or doing other things and it's like, well, hey, I would love to do this. This makes sense. I'm kind of into this hobby. I can do this and you can do this and you can machine some for us and for, you know, it. So that's that's Griffin and how.


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[Assistant] Coach Griffin and Hal, I'm sorry Mike, but they're doing 03 Springfield.


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[Assistant] And, but a lot of times they have features or different things that we don't really need in a hunting or we need other things in a hunting scope. So there's a lot of overlap, but it's not always a hundred percent.


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[Assistant] Cause you guys still have the actual log where. Oh yeah.


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[Assistant] You guys still take military guns or surplus guns and re-barrel them and build them up. Re-barrel. Re-stock. Usually in the years. I know I've got two or three. I should do that. I only care about having


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[Assistant] Jason, should we do a field ethos story on this? I take one of my 03 spring fields that I've had for 30 years and we build a gun.


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[Assistant] That would be so awesome. And you know, for me, I just purchased those guns like my guns. They're not sentimental. Like they weren't my grandfathers or anything. I don't care, but you know, I bought them and they were probably like 500 bucks. So then it would mean something to me.


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[Assistant] When I went to watch him, like basically at the time he was doing a ton of the work in the shops grown. And so now he does one thing. He's got guys that specialize in certain aspects of the builds. And so they've become more efficient and probably and Jared would probably say even better because now, you know, it's like,


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[Assistant] Jared wanted to, I remember about seven or eight years ago, he has a very wealthy client who wanted wood stocks. And Jared's a guy who likes to challenge himself. And so his client like bought these pieces of wood, like six pieces of wood. And it's a guy with a lot of money.


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[Assistant] That's so cool. So, so if I come to Griffin and how now I want to build a gun. So there's options. I can start my 03 Springfield. If you go on the defiance type actions like you have, you brought to Africa, I can pick my piece of wood off the lame out for you.


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[Assistant] Alright, so you guys do that. So, you guys used to be part of Abercrombie and Fitch. Used to be, yea. So.


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[Assistant] That's so awesome. Yeaah, I told you I think I have an Abercrombie and Fitch catalog from like 100 years ago that has some Axum silencers in it for sale.


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[Assistant] So you'd have movie stars and stuff who would want to go on African safari because you know, you weren't a bad person if you went and did that back then. Right. And they would come in to Abercrombie and Fitch. They get all their gear. So you get shirt, pants, belt, boots, hat, like all the things you need.


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[Assistant] Yes, so, so you guys, and that's in New Jersey. So, so now you have the rifle building place. What all else is at Griffin Howe? What can you do?


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[Assistant] So, so it's for people getting into hunting want a place where they can either learn and train or stay, stay tuned up. Exactly. And so you said we can stay there. Yeah. So we have lodging.


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[Assistant] So, that's, so you have 900 meters? Yeah, 900 yards right from range. Okay, and 4,000, so yeaah. It is interesting. You know, even me being in Georgia, from Georgia, uhm,


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[Assistant] And you're right. Another reason to have good glass, good binos and because that's


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[Assistant] I want to learn some stuff. But I thought this was an interesting way to think about it. You're like, work with your rifle, whatever range you can get proficient at. So what you said was like, you know, if you're proficient at 600 meters, if you can reliably shoot on target, good group, all that, then hunt at 300 meters. Like make that some half.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I mean, we talked about it yesterday too, the confidence level in your stuff, and you spoke to it in this, like,


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[Assistant] Don't blow it. Yeah, I agree with that. It was, if you're going to go to Africa right now, Africa was a great experience for us. It's very inexpensive to go to South Africa. It's target rich. It's not a lot of money to shoot a lot of animals.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it was interesting for us too as a group, taking a lot of different optics, rifles, a lot of different ideas of what we want to do. You had 300 Win Mag with a Swarovski, what, is that a 5-25?


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[Assistant] Three and a half to eighteen, you know, and Jason shooting a Winchester .30-06 with a two to eight on it and everything in between. And you know, you're confident with it. You can make the shots.


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[Assistant] But when you're hunting and you can clip it on your belt, you clip it on your sling like you talked about and


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[Assistant] You can be successful, you know, it gives you that little added advantage in the field when you got to make an awkward shot. Cause as we know, like you go to Africa.


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[Assistant] Very few of your shots. I mean, if you want to sit in a place all day and wait for something and shoot like whatever comes up, you can do that and be prone. But if you're after a specific animal or type of animal or, you know, a maturity level or whatever,


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[Assistant] It's rare that you get the shot that you want. So I mean, you saved me with that bag a couple of times. So I went and bought them and we just went to Wyoming to train up.


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[Assistant] Do some engineering stuff, but also for me, I was training up my next hunt to Africa and I bought 20 different bags.


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[Assistant] From everybody I found in the industry, ordered them up, took them out there for everyone to use. And I've got two of those lightweight bags like you had from small arms precision. I think it's a short action, short action precision.


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[Assistant] So I used those, uh, and did the same thing. Like I'm going to have that just like you had a little carabiner clipped on, clip it on something. I'm going to have it with me because if it's heavy, I won't use it. And that's another thing. Like you get all this equipment, but when you start, you know, like I'm not as young as I once was or as fit and I still do okay, but


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[Assistant] Like when you gotta hike up a mountain and it's 9,000 feet.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean the best piece of gear is the one you're going to use and have with you and they'll help. Well, okay. So, so people can go to, is it griffinhow.com? What's the website?


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[Assistant] Man, I wish you success. I can't wait to get down there and shoot with you. I'm glad you got to come build one of our guns. I appreciate that man. I learned a lot yesterday. Yeah. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a different approach. Like we're doing our own thing and, and I love it, but I appreciate, you know, I mean, I've devoted my entire life to, to small arms and every aspect of it. And right now I'm super into the hunting part of it. And, uh,


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[Assistant] Right. Right. I mean should, should be the ATA. Should be. Should be. Let those assholes go good. Was it, is that a stone face or a local brewer?


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[Assistant] What about you? Don't suck up and say SIG in case things don't work out at Q.


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[Assistant] That's what I always hear too when they message me.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, still not selling them too. No, definitely not. No, no, no stand.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you really had to know your craft because not only do you have to get it right, but you don't know if you got it right until you develop it. So yeah, we had a dark room when I was a kid.


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[Assistant] People get killed at the rodeo, race cars.


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[Assistant] So it just won't blow up at all or it won't blow up as much? Or who knows? You know, I've never tried.


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[Assistant] So is it like a bigger Sofix? Well, Sofix is cooler because it has more guns and vehicles.


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[Assistant] Well, it's super effective on target, but then it's a good psychological weapon too.


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[Assistant] Some people just want to fill their day because they're hourly employees. Some people want to actually, you know, improve on the company.


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[Assistant] So what problems are you trying to solve with the 98 having the gas tube go under the barrel alongside the receiver? Well, you had 99 problems, but 98 ain't one. Was it just trying to do something new or what were you?


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[Assistant] You don't have to mention the simulations and the material selections in it. You can actually get the good guess on the weight. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Or like you were saying earlier, change of hands because somebody's not in that position anymore. Right. And priorities change too. It's like, hey, you know, we need


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[Assistant] So I can buy right now, sorry to cut you off, Kevin, a 6.5 Creedmoor with rings.


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[Assistant] Uh, for under two grand. Under two? I'll get it. Buy it now, under two grand.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's always room for the best because in a lot of ways, you know, with your product, our product, you're kind of getting what you pay for and going back to what you were saying before about the development process, you know, maybe you have a bad spring, maybe that spring's breaking because of something else in the gun that you need to fix and you have to go through all the hurdles and the hassles and the financial burden of solving those problems and, uh,


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[Assistant] Hey, I'm Kevin from Q. This episode of the Q and S podcast got a mother fricking sponsor. Tactical distributors, you're on fire.


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[Assistant] They carry all kinds of cool shit, man. I got my fancy tiger stripes, summer pants here that everybody loves. I skate in those. I go to the club and those pulling honeys all day. If I actually wore.


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[Assistant] You know, anything to go in my pool or hot tub, it'd probably be these board shorts.


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[Assistant] Their return policy, simple, easy. I never know, cause I got like the fat feet. So this could be a 10 and a half, could be an 11. I don't know. Older two sizes, I pick one, send it back.


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[Assistant] So today we're here, Adam and I talking with a good buddy, Adam Kraut from the firearms policy coalition. So he's going to tell us about why you need to donate to them, who they're suing and why, how many screwed up gun laws we got, why the ATF may be a sucking and taking too long to do things.


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[Assistant] We're going to talk about national parks foster children.


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[Assistant] Your gun rights, why you need them, why you got to fight for them and what the bad guys are trying to do to them. Tune in, give us your support. Firearms policy coalition. We appreciate what you do.


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[Assistant] Adam Kraut, you're working with the Firearms Policy Coalition now. I am. Yeaah, so what is this organization?


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[Assistant] Oh, good question. No, I don't want the, uh, the trial lawyer answer. I want the.


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[Assistant] I mean, it is interesting that you can be drafted before you can own a gun, awful.


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[Assistant] We've been doing it ever since. Uhm. So okay, so a non-profit to support primarily the second amendment.


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[Assistant] The second amendment, like what, what does that, what right does that give the average citizen?


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[Assistant] Of what, yeaah, our forefathers thought was important. You know, I was, I was having that, uhm,


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[Assistant] My son's tutor just left and told her what we were doing, you guys are coming here, blah, blah, blah. And, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, just the interesting aspect of that. And it's like, well, what's really important is probably with our forefathers was the first amendment.


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[Assistant] And then it's just the guarantee of the first amendment by the second amendment and just that approach and, um.


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[Assistant] Oh my god, and I'm sure it's the way it always works. I'm not sure there's any great country like ours that's set up that can ever like burn so bright for a long period of time because it's just this fucking erosion of things.


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[Assistant] And, you know, that's where, and I understand, although like I think the bump stock is completely stupid.


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[Assistant] But I'm glad there was a victory on that recently. Uhm, but yeaah, you should be able to own it. You know?


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[Assistant] Okay, so what you're saying, uh, Mac from Military Arms Channel, he was one of the plaintiffs.


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[Assistant] Um, oh, oh, so this wasn't necessarily just a blanket. The, um, bump stock is it's just now. Okay. There's an injunction for those people who filed the suit.


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[Assistant] So they basically push it down to say, you fucked up, review it and come up with the right answer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that can be important because, you know, correct me wherever, but you know, the merits being, okay, well, if you're going to classify this as a machine gun, then okay, how does ATF define machine gun?


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[Assistant] Well, knowing attorneys and judges, that means, hey, we think it's bullshit, but we don't want to make the call. Let's give them another chance to do it. And nevermind the millions of dollars you're going to spend to get there and the time wasted. It's expensive.


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[Assistant] It's like, I love when, you know, the one in a thousand judge you found with a set of balls. So that is not afraid to be the Dateline judge.


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[Assistant] That would be wonderful. Yeah. Cause you know, I've been in court a couple times myself. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Especially something as, as delicate and flammatory as like firearms at this point.


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[Assistant] And it can, you know, and sometimes you get those very liberal judges and...


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[Assistant] Every time I've ever been in court, it's, you know, so it's like three or four


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[Assistant] Couple dozen times. And they always, you know, no matter what it's for, you know, anything, gun related.


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[Assistant] Whatever. Uhm, there's always a picture of me holding a gun.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, that's inflammatory, your honor shocker. I want a gun company. Yeah. Um, but I remember the last one was I'm wearing shorts and a flip flop and flip flops and I'm in our factory and I'm holding the fixed rifle.


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[Assistant] Okay. And the judge said, this is terrifying. You holding an assault rifle.


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[Assistant] Ah, yeah. So yeah, I can imagine venue and just timing, like sometimes who's on the bench at the time.


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[Assistant] You know, I think in my lawsuit with, with Remington, when they owed me a couple bucks and we went to court, you know, my agreement with them was it would be in.


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[Assistant] You know, the southern district of New York, which is generally very good for them because they're able to paint the picture generally very.


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[Assistant] Liberal anti-gun, but you know that judge Catherine forest, most brilliant person I've ever encountered. She did not give a shit. It was just the merits of the case and yeah. And she would weed through that and tell them to shut up every time they tried to paint this picture. It's like, you're a gun company trying to blame, you know.


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[Assistant] Accuse one of your employees of being a gun nut. Like, shut up. You know, uhm, yeaah, it's good when you get a good judge.


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[Assistant] What about them arm braces, yo? Arm braces, yo. That's what Adam's trying to say. Oh, sure.


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[Assistant] Texas, great, great place, huge place. Tons of gun buyers there is dwarfed by gun purchases in California, the biggest gun market in the entire nation. So sorry, go ahead.


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[Assistant] So what about the 18 million mags that were purchased in California?


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[Assistant] I mean, we'll look up the numbers and post them on here, but I think it's like California buys like 30% more guns in Texas, which is number one by a long shot. It's like something outrageous. California is the biggest gun market we got.


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[Assistant] Uh, until TalonSci, who's like a- Yeah, I know Talon. Oh yeah, cool guy. So, oh yeah, he's from your state. Yeah!


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[Assistant] Yeah, well that is great. He's a nice guy. He's awesome. Uhm, what I was gonna say is, his, the gun that he did with uhm,


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[Assistant] What's the name of that Glock? It was uh, Danger Close Armament. Danger Close Armament, I wanna get my plug. So, the 43X, and he says, oh, it's not even on the California roster. I was like, oh god, that's so dumb. Like a 10 round, 9 mil, like, you have to get it certified by them, they make you give them guns.


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[Assistant] Oh, the old Biden loophole. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, the Biden.


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[Assistant] Or gen fives. Like I said, California, the biggest gun market.


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[Assistant] It's so aggravating. Number one, I'm like upset with California voters. Number two, if I were a billionaire, I think I would donate like a million dollars worth of clocks to California every week.


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[Assistant] We're hoping. Okay. So what are you guys doing? All right. What's the deal? We give you guys money. What the hell are you doing with it? You just, you're, we're filing lawsuits. We're going after bullshit gun laws. We're going to punch ATF in the face. These bullshit state laws. That's, that's what we're doing.


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[Assistant] Why are you wearing them? Cause it's still wet. It's still a little damp. Matt's so sweet, you know, we got the laundry room at the office. He washed mine and all for me and had them ready for me to go on my trip last week.


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[Assistant] They want something hard, I'm like, ask Adam. Adam's in charge. That's fine.


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[Assistant] There are. So we have a marketing budget. We have a marketing budget. That's important. You know. Well with that right now, okay, cause you guys, so Adam donated you guys, uh, a honey badger pistol and that ends today. So by the time this comes out, I'll bet a couple weeks. Today is March 31st.


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[Assistant] Yeah. How much you looking at it? Is it over? Is the, is this auction over? Huh? Still going. What's the last count?


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[Assistant] Well, let's, let's pimp the, uh, the importance of the, uh, honey badger. So, so on average, my man Pierce said, uh, what do you say the guns are usually brand?


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[Assistant] Oh, that's great. Yeah, so today is March 31st. It is.


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[Assistant] Okay. We'll keep you updated. You know, the thing is the honey badger is got call of duty world famous, but the mini fix in the industry, people that know, yes, it'll be interesting to see. I don't know. I don't know if you're right, but I hope I think I am. You're right a lot.


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[Assistant] Ivanka, Ivanka loved it and she's like real snooty about fashion. I loved it. I felt special. I stood out at the event I was at. There's like 500 people. So it's like easy to say that. Well, now so many people shave their heads or a ball and he can't just say the bald guy. So it's like the dude in the stupid shirt.


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[Assistant] This past weekend when we donated the, uh, fix and silence here in the Whirlpooled Scope and the special color in the backpack.


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[Assistant] Oh, oh, I did. So, um, this Pat, well, yeah. So we last weekend, I went to an auction for special operations care fund, another charity we support, but very different. So there's gun rights over here and the special operations over here.


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[Assistant] And, uh, it's for those guys and raised a million dollars in one night with, um,


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[Assistant] Giveaways, like, whatever. That was an auction, I believe. That's also legal. Auctions are cool. So we did that. And so we donated a fix and six, five, 16 inch silencer, a little pulled, gave us a mark five scope. London bridge donated a backpack. Nice backpack, but it's probably only two, $300. I don't know how much that shit is.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So not 113,000, but this is a one night thing and you have a captive audience. It's not insignificant. It was huge. So a honey badger and the fix race, $50,000, a hundred percent pass. All those guys have day jobs too. And they do this occasionally.


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[Assistant] To, you know, the guys that matter. So that was a wonderful thing.


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[Assistant] And, and I'm not going to lie, when it got up in the high twenties, I bet on the gun too. It's like it stalled. And so it's like me and two other guys got in a bidding war cause I'm like.


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[Assistant] I want it. Like when I saw it and the whole thing, I'm like, I want that gun. And I don't know. Like I did okay this year. Like, oh.


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[Assistant] I'll, I'll give back and it got out of my price range.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they, they've done, I mean, it's so amazing. I like our industry friend, Dave Kramer. He's from Atlanta where I'm from and we're personal friends, but in a couple of guys started that six or seven, eight years ago.


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[Assistant] Um, and just because he was repping some companies dealing with special operations with uniforms and boots and other things.


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[Assistant] He got to know a lot of the guys and you know, it really just like touched his heart when some of the guys were killed and they had young kids and he wanted to do something to support and he got with some of his friends and started the organization. You know, I remember the first event we raised, like, I don't remember, but it was like 50 to 70 grand.


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[Assistant] And still no one there takes a salary. Like they do it. They all work like Griff Griffin. He's one of the board members. He's an attorney. Super nice fucking guy. Full time. Yeah. He's an IP attorney and, um, you know, they all have.


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[Assistant] More than full-time jobs and all their spare times devoted to this thing and they grew it and seeing it like I didn't go last year and just seeing the growth in two years.


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[Assistant] From how many people were there and uh, they had 54 guys from special operations. 30 of them had their wives or girlfriends with them. And you know, they were all honored and tons of stuff was given away. I mean, the very first thing that was given away was a custom 1911 and it really sucks that.


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[Assistant] Always the first item in an auction seems like it's a, it's a bargain.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's, that's the thing to buy and it brought $18,000, which a lot of money, but this was a $10,000 gun. If you order it from the place and it's a year to get, you know, years to get it and it brought 18,000. Had it been later in the night pro would have brought like 50 grand, but the dude seeing generosity from people.


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[Assistant] He bought the gun, goes up there, gets the microphone, and calls one, uhm, so a guy that works for, uh, Geissele.


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[Assistant] Uh, so in your neck of the woods, uhm, he's a former special operations guy that we're all friends with. He calls him up the front. He was there and handed him the pistol. So like, the guy bought the pistol, 18 grand, donated it to one of the guys that was there. It was incredible. So great, great event.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a great organization, great event. Uhm, so, raising money on, you know, that side of things. But, you know, fighting for our rights now, I mean, it's, it's important. When did, when did, uh, okay, so when did Firearms Policy Coalition get started? 2014.


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[Assistant] So it was one of those things, kind of like David Kramer said, if he doesn't drink, like we should do something.


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[Assistant] Is there a fear with the different organizations, whether it be gun owners of America or whoever, that it's kind of a Ross Perot sort of effect, like you're going to divide things up too much?


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[Assistant] So you, you don't think it's, um, you know, creating like, uh, you know, some sort of bored or lack of clarity and.


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[Assistant] You guys are just focused on the lawsuits, which I appreciate because it's great to have the political side of things, but taking action.


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[Assistant] Cause yeah, I mean, I know a lot of these municipalities or maybe states, like holding them accountable. It's real easy to try to get, if you're a politician, try to get something stupid passed. But when you're going to be, your feet are held to the fire and you got to answer to it. I mean, that's maybe best. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of best case. Sure.


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[Assistant] I mean, at some point, we're probably past the point, like you, you gotta initiate a fight. I mean, that's what a lawsuit is. Yeah. I mean, I think there are organizations where the leadership has really been in power, you know, since you were born, like not even an exaggeration.


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[Assistant] And maybe that's okay sometimes, but I mean we've let a lot of stuff slip. I mean, you know, I mean.


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[Assistant] Since and including Reagan. Yeah. And, and, um, that's unfortunate and yeah, it's clearly, I don't think going to stop.


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[Assistant] Without some of this happening, so I'm super excited about the lawsuits.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think once the domestic violence stuff came about and then they began to cast such a wide net with what falls under domestic violence and.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I think that's kind of the point. So like, okay, when you have something that falls under domestic violence and there's no violence, it makes no fucking sense. Or like Martha Stewart, not being able to own a gun now. That seems ridiculous.


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[Assistant] Well, let's stop there. When did uhm...


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[Assistant] When did there become a differentiation between crime, like a felon, so what's that, a minimum of more than one year in prison?


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[Assistant] Okay, so what are people, let's say constitutional scholars, what do they believe?


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[Assistant] Yeah, what did the founding fathers think with, okay, because myself personally, without knowing anything,


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[Assistant] Is I believe if you're a felon, that means, okay, so you are arrested, convicted. Let's say presumably served your time. You're released.


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[Assistant] You should be able to own a gun. Like why can't you, because you committed a felony, no matter what kind it was, if we believe, violent or not, that you served your time


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[Assistant] And whether you believe in rehabilitation or it's just punitive.


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[Assistant] And you're released. Why should you not be able to protect your life?


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[Assistant] Or the lives of your family or your loved ones. Like, it doesn't even make sense to me. I think if, eh, eh, eh, so what you're a felon.


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[Assistant] You went to prison, you served your sentence. We agree as a society to release you, but now you can't protect your life. Sure.


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[Assistant] That is so dumb. Yeah, it is dumb. Yeah, I mean, you're right. And, and, and there is no avenue for people who they want to talk about loopholes. That's kind of a loophole, but in the other direction. There is no avenue. What's their avenue to get their rights restored?


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[Assistant] I've just learned so much and hopefully anyone watching or listening.


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[Assistant] There is so much bullshit. And even if you think, oh, I'm never like, I don't need to.


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[Assistant] Push or contribute or spend any of my dollars cause I'm never going to.


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[Assistant] Do anything stupid with a gun, the fucking catch up. Oh my God. Like just the bullshit laws. And if your state doesn't have them right now, it doesn't mean they want two weeks from now or two years or five years, fighting it. But I think the step is, and I've learned from my own experience, um, you know, you start holding the government accountable.


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[Assistant] And people have to start answering for dumb shit they do. It slows it down into government or even your local municipality.


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[Assistant] You know, I mean, even with my stuff here, like, the chief of police, he had to resign. So did the prosecutor.


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[Assistant] Like don't, you know, just, just because, uh, you know, you were appointed or elected doesn't mean, you know, that, that you can just rain down whatever justice you think is correct. Right. And everybody.


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[Assistant] Is held accountable, but I think it's a, it's an important thing. Like I had no idea of some of this bullshit that states were doing to prohibit people from owning firearms.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's no way even in the next check, it was like hard to get anything undone once it's done.


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[Assistant] Such bullshit, because you being an attorney, like, what's a pardon mean to you?


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[Assistant] Okay, so we talked about California and New Jersey, the usual suspects of stupid states. What are some of the, I don't know, some of the states that people think are so free? Like it could be New Hampshire, look for your die, Texas.


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[Assistant] What are some of the states that people might not even know they live in have ridiculous laws that need to be... Florida. The Gunshine.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, Florida's number two after three after California, Texas, Florida for firearm purchasing.


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[Assistant] So even though federal, all 18 to 21, they can purchase rifles in Florida. Some of those are restricted.


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[Assistant] Well, what's the reasoning and the criterion? How do they decide?


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[Assistant] Rehearsed or even a set up, but we're in, and I know I have no idea the answer. You probably do. Were those guns obtained legally by the shooter?


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[Assistant] The knee-jerk, I mean, to me, knee-jerk reactions should be a violation of our constitution. Like, I'm so sick of them. Cause you can never undo it. You know, we're dealing with silencers right now. 1934. So, that was 80 years ago and we're still dealing with that bullshit.


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[Assistant] A nation anywhere, but a nation of our size. We're going to have tragedy.


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[Assistant] Like shit happens and the idea that we need to react with law or legislation or something every fucking time it happens is stupid.


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[Assistant] Like shit happens. Shit happens to good people. Like, you know, there's going to be crazy people. Just going to happen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's difficult, you know, like where we live here, I mean, we're probably, what, six miles from Massachusetts? And probably ten miles. Yeah, and ten miles from Maine.


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[Assistant] Even when you look at the map, you know, there's parts of New Hampshire that dip down into Massachusetts and, you know, God, you can't have anything there. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know, you just scared me in this podcast. Jesus Christ. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news. This is probably our most serious podcast. Well, we can be more jovial.


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[Assistant] Okay, so the bullet button being the magazine release AR thing where you have to use a bullet. Yes. Okay.


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[Assistant] Well, wait, the most important question with that, since you reached a settlement with the state of California was, uh, did my man Adam Kraut get some attorney's fees out of all this? That's what I want to know.


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[Assistant] It's just like domestic violence or all this other stuff. Throw shit under there. Right. Opioid crisis. Yes. So Philadelphia, state of emergency.


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[Assistant] Well, that's, that's funny that you say that because that is an avenue for government always when they're regulatory or they provide license for things is they can delay it. And you know, you have to sue them to motivate them to.


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[Assistant] Do you think, um, are you involved enough with NFA to know, you know, I tell the story.


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[Assistant] 20 years ago, form three, so Dior to Dior was a process, the transfer took two months.


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[Assistant] It was, um, all unlike microfiche. So you sent your form in the ATF examiner in DC at the time had to go microfiche, look it up and then go prove it and then file for it. It was a lot of work and now it's all.


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[Assistant] Is it really a volume or you think we're just being, uh, choked by, uh,


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[Assistant] The government, they're just, you know, purposely delaying things to prohibit people from, uh, you know, deterring people from wanting to buy Glass 3. Secret waiting period or something. Yeaah. I mean, just make it prohibitively long to where people aren't going to do it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, killing it. I mean something's going good if you guys aren't deactivated like we were. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Well, what's uhm, what are some short term goals for you guys?


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[Assistant] What are we trying to do, Adam? What's this, what's this, uh.


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[Assistant] You're the buffet of stuff. So the goal is to get them to decide stuff, to change law, to change precedents, to change shit. Yes. And for you guys to be high profile, we're going to call people out, stop doing stupid shit and infringing on rights. Right.


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[Assistant] We deal with them for you. Okay, I'm, I'm going to try to, you still need the plaintiffs for George 18 to 25.


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[Assistant] There's plenty of other cases. I mean, that's interesting to know. So, you do need people who, who in this capacity involving firearms or 2A, they've had, they're being fucked over.


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[Assistant] And you need these cases, these people to come forward so you can try to change the law. Yes. I mean, that's great to hear. And you guys, yeah. Provide representation in these cases sometimes. Okay. All right. Well, I want, I've got a question. I got the big question for the day. Oh yeah. Yeah. All right.


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[Assistant] What do you think about the honey badger brace scenario when they kicked us in the balls?


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[Assistant] You know, we didn't hear from a single other firearms manufacturer for support. All the money spent on attorneys, all the shit, not a single company, not a single one of them. And that was, that was depressing.


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[Assistant] Well, from your standpoint, is it, you, you think, I mean, what are some other possibilities? Is it because the name of our company is Q and Q and on there's that tenuous connection? Or is it because.


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[Assistant] Thanks guys. Or Honey Badger because it's in Call of Duty and very popular and children love it.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I honestly hate it, but it's necessary and you know, lawsuit suck, but.


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[Assistant] I hate regulatory cause they have no personal accountability and all you can do is sue the government and it sucks. And, uh, but it's necessary and we shouldn't be at that point. And yeah, if I could be out of a job for doing it.


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[Assistant] Because that means, that means we won. I'll keep that in mind when we win. Yeah, it's great, but it's sad. Well, okay. So then the final question, um, Adam Kraut's paycheck, whatever percentage you give to stuff like this.


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[Assistant] So, Firearms Policy Coalition. Who else is doing God's work? Depends what area you're looking at.


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[Assistant] That's awesome. You're a good human being. Oh, sometimes.


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[Assistant] Okay, well thank you. Until next time, keep up the good fight, man.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, the grip that we put on... It's like 20 bucks.


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[Assistant] Welcome to the Romance of the Three Kingdoms podcast. This is episode 2.


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[Assistant] After some early success, their commander was framed by a wicked eunuch and removed from power.


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[Assistant] So the three warriors were on their way home when they ran into an imperial army being smacked around by the rebels.


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[Assistant] Our three heroes rolled into the fray, turned away an immense rebel army all by themselves, and rescued the commander of the Imperial Army, Dong Zhuo. However, this Dong Zhuo was an arrogant ingrate who turned his nose up at our heroes the minute he learned that they had no rank.


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[Assistant] This ticked off Zhang Fei and he was about to slash his way into Dong Zhuo's tent and kill him. Fortunately for Dong Zhuo,


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[Assistant] And as we will learn next week, unfortunately for everyone else, Liu Bei and Guan Yu restrained their brother.


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[Assistant] We can't kill him. He's a government official, Liu Bei said.


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[Assistant] If I don't kill this bastard and end up having to serve under him, I would never be able to stand it, Jiangfei said. You two can stay here if you wish to, but I'm going elsewhere.


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[Assistant] We three are one in life and death. We cannot part from each other, Liu Bei said. We will all go.


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[Assistant] This appeased Zhang Fei enough for him to put his sword away, and the three brothers set out to join Zhu Jun, one of the other imperial commanders fighting the rebels. Zhu Jun treated them well, and they combined their forces and attacked Zhang Bao, the second oldest of the three Zhang brothers who started the rebellion.


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[Assistant] Zhang Bao was commanding some 80,000 troops stationed at a strong position in the rear of a stretch of hills.


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[Assistant] Zhang Bao sent out his lieutenant, a general named Gao Sheng, to challenge Liu Bei's army for single combat.


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[Assistant] Liu Bei sent out Zhang Fei, who shot out at full speed with spear in hand. After just a few bouts, Zhang Fei killed Gao Sheng, and Liu Bei ordered his army to charge.


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[Assistant] But just then, Zhang Bao pulled out the ace up his sleeve. Sorcery.


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[Assistant] With his hair hanging down and his sword in hand, Zhang Bao cast a spell that made the wind howl and the thunder roll.


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[Assistant] A dense black cloud from the heavens settled upon the field, and within this dark cloud, there seemed to be countless horsemen and infantry sweeping down to attack the Imperial troops. Liu Bei hastily retreated, and his army fell into chaos, and they suffered a defeat.


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[Assistant] Upon his return to camp, Liu Bei met with Zhu Jun to discuss how to counter Zhang Bao's flag magic. Their answer?


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[Assistant] So Liu Bei gave Guan Yu and Zhang Fei a thousand men each, and they hid on the cliffs behind the hills, with an ample supply of pig, goat, and dog blood, plus a lot of other less than pleasant things. The next day, Zhang Bao's army came out to seek battle. They flew their banners high and banged their drums loud.


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[Assistant] Liu Bei went out to face them. When the two armies met, Zhang Bao turned to his old tricks again. Sand flew up in clouds, pebbles were swept along the ground, black vapor filled the sky, and rolling masses of infantry and cavalry descended from on high.


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[Assistant] Liu Bei's forces turned and fled, and the rebels gave chase.


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[Assistant] But, as soon as they pressed through the hills, trumpets blared and a cannon shot went off. At this signal, the hidden soldiers let loose with the blood and filth they had collected.


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[Assistant] At this, the soldiers and horses in the air fluttered harmlessly to the earth, and it turned out to be nothing more than shreds of torn paper. The wind ceased to blow, the thunder subsided, the sand sank, and the pebbles lay still on the ground.


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[Assistant] Zhang Bao saw that his sorcery had been broken and quickly tried to retreat. But now Guan Yu and Zhang Fei dashed out from the flanks with their men, while Liu Bei and Zhu Jun attacked from the rear. The rebels were routed.


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[Assistant] In the chaos, Liu Bei saw a banner in the distance that said General of the Earth. He galloped toward it. As Zhang Bao fled, Liu Bei let fly an arrow, which struck Zhang Bao in the left arm. But Zhang Bao managed to get away. He fled into the city of Yangcheng and fortified its defenses.


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[Assistant] Zhu Jun then laid siege to the city while sending out messengers to see how Huang Fusong, the other Imperial commander leading troops against the rebels, was doing.


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[Assistant] At this time, Huang Fusong had been reinforced by Cao Cao, who, if you remember from the last episode, was a cavalry commander who did an impressive mop-up job against a group of defeated rebels.


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[Assistant] The combined army of Huang Fusong and Cao Cao was waging a huge campaign against Zhang Lian, the youngest of the three brothers at the head of the rebellion.


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[Assistant] Zhu Jun's messenger reported back and said that Huang Fuzong had been very successful and has replaced Dong Zhuo at the order of the court, since Dong Zhuo was pretty much useless and kept losing.


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[Assistant] By the time Huang Fusong had arrived at his new command, Zhang Jue, the man who started the rebellion, had died, and Zhang Lian was leading both his own army and his brother's troops against Huang Fusong. But Huang Fusong won seven straight battles and killed Zhang Lian at the city of Quyang.


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[Assistant] Not only that, Huang Fuzong also had Zhang Jue's coffin exhumed, beheaded his corpse, put the head on public display, and then sent it to the capital.


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[Assistant] And with that, the rebel army surrendered.


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[Assistant] For his service, Huang Fusong was promoted to General of the Flying Chariots, which was the second highest-ranking military officer, as well as the Imperial Protector of Ji Province.


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[Assistant] Huang Fusong then wrote to the emperor and told him about how Lu Zhi, his fellow commander, was framed and unjustly removed from his post after refusing to give a eunuch a bribe. So Lu Zhi got his old job back.


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[Assistant] Cao Cao also got a promotion and was about to go assume his new post.


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[Assistant] Upon hearing this news, Zhu Jun pressed his forces to double their siege on Yangcheng. The rebels' situation became so dire that one of the rebel officers killed Zhang Bao and brought his head to Zhu Jun. With that,


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[Assistant] The rebellion in that part of the country was stamped out, and Zhu Jun reported his victory to the court.


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[Assistant] But before they could even schedule the victory parade, three other Yellow Turban rebels, Zhao Hong, Han Zheng, and Sun Zheng, had amassed tens of thousands to their banners. They started killing and pillaging, declaring that they were going to avenge Zhang Jue.


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[Assistant] So the court ordered Zhu Jun to lead his army against these new troublemakers. Zhu Jun marched to the city of Wancheng,


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, Zhu Jun led 2,000 armor cavalry to attack the northeast corner.


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[Assistant] Worried about losing the city, the rebels quickly abandoned the southwest corner and fell back. Liu Bei gave chase and routed the rebels, who fled into the city.


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[Assistant] Why do you refuse to accept Han Zhong's surrender? After all, when the supreme ancestor won the empire, it was because he welcomed those who were willing to surrender.


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[Assistant] That was then, this is now, Zhu Jun answered. Back then, the Qin dynasty had just collapsed and the land was in chaos. The people had no clear ruler, so it made sense to reward those who would surrender because it gave them an incentive to do so.


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[Assistant] But right now, the Empire is united with the exception of the Yellow Turbans, so there are no benefits to letting them surrender. It would only encourage others to rebel because they would think that if they fail, they can just surrender.


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[Assistant] That's all well and good, Liu Bei said, but we've surrounded the city like an iron barrel. Since they can't surrender, the rebels will no doubt fight to the death.


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[Assistant] With that common cause, there would be a force to reckon with, since there are now tens of thousands of men in that city with a death sentence hanging over their heads. How about if we leave the south and east sides of the city open and attack the north and west? That way, the rebels will no doubt abandon the city and flee rather than stand and fight. Then it would be easy to capture them.


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[Assistant] Zhu Jun accepted his plan and pulled back his men from the south and east side of the city and laid siege to the north and west.


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[Assistant] Just as Liu Bei predicted, Han Zhong and his men abandoned the city and fled.


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[Assistant] Zhu Jun, Liu Bei, Guan Yu, and Zhang Fei then fell upon them. Han Zhong was killed by an arrow, and the rest of the rebels scattered.


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[Assistant] But just as the Imperial troops were giving chase, the other two rebel leaders, Zhao Hong and Sun Zheng, arrived with their forces and engaged Zhu Jun's army.


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[Assistant] Seeing the size of the rebel army, Zhu Jun ordered his forces to fall back for the time being, and that allowed Zhao Hong to retake the city of Wancheng.


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[Assistant] Zhu Jun set up camp three miles from the city and prepared to attack. Just then, an army arrived from the east.


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[Assistant] At the head of this army was a general with a broad open face, a body like a tiger's, and a torso like a bear's. His name was Sun Jian.


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[Assistant] He was a native of Fuchun. He was supposedly a descendant of Sunzi, the famous military strategist who wrote The Art of War.


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[Assistant] So we're going to pause for a little bit here to delve into the background of Sun Jian.


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[Assistant] When he was 17, he and his father were sailing on a river and saw a party of pirates. These buccaneers had just finished robbing a merchant and were dividing their booty on the riverbank.


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[Assistant] We can capture these guys, Sun Jian said to his father. He grabbed his sword and ran onto the bank, where he shouted loudly and pointed ear and dare as though he were directing men forward.


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[Assistant] The pirates, apparently not being particularly bright, thought soldiers were coming, so they dropped their loot and ran. Sun Jian chased down and killed one of them. This made him known in the area, and he was made an officer.


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[Assistant] Later, a sorcerer named Xu Chang started a rebellion, calling himself the Emperor of the Sun, and amassed tens of thousands of men under his banner. Sun Jian and the local officials recruited about a thousand men and helped put down this uprising, killing Xu Chang and his son.


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[Assistant] For this, Sun Jian was commanded in a memorial to the emperor and that led to a series of promotions culminating with him being named the magistrate of Xia Pi.


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[Assistant] When the Yellow Turban Rebellion began, Sun Jian got a troop of 1,500 veteran soldiers and took to the field. This gets us up to where we left off, with Sun Jian and his army coming to the aid of Zhu Jun.


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[Assistant] Zhu Jun welcomed Sun Jian with delight and ordered him to attack the south gate of Wan Cheng, while Liu Bei attacked the north gate and Zhu Jun the west gate.


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[Assistant] They left the east gate unguarded for the rebels to flee. Sun Jian was the first one over the wall and cut down more than 20 rebels. While the rebels ran, their leader Zhao Heng rode towards Sun Jian with his spear-poised strike. Sun Jian leaped down from the wall, snatched the spear and used it to kill Zhao Heng.


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[Assistant] The last remaining rebel leader, Sun Zheng, led his men and fled out the North Gate, where they ran right into Liu Bei.


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[Assistant] The rebels were not in a fighting mood, so they simply made a run for it. But Liu Bei drew his bow and dropped Sun Zheng with an arrow. Zhu Jun's main army swept in and slaughtered tens of thousands of rebels, while countless others surrendered.


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[Assistant] With this, peace was restored to the ten counties in the Nanyang area.


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[Assistant] With two major victories in hand, Zhou Jun returned to the capital and was promoted to the general of the Flying Cavalry and governor of Henan.


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[Assistant] He also reported to the emperor the merits of Liu Bei and Sun Jian.


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[Assistant] And here's where we see how important it is to have friends in high places. Sun Jian, who had influential connections in the capital, quickly received an appointment as commander of Changsha and left to assume his new office. But Liu Bei, who had no high connections in the capital, was left waiting in vain.


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[Assistant] As the days dragged on, Liu Bei and his brothers became bored and annoyed, so they went for a walk around the capital one day. By coincidence, they ran into a court official named Zhang Jun


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[Assistant] Liu Bei introduced himself and mentioned his contributions in pacifying the rebels. Surprised, Zhang Jun went to see the emperor to bring this travesty to his attention.


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[Assistant] The yellow turbans rebelled because the eunuchs were selling offices and bartering ranks, Zhang Jun said.


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[Assistant] They gave jobs only to their friends and punished only their enemies. That's what brought chaos to the Empire. We should execute the ten regular attendants, hang their heads in public, make this known throughout the Empire, and then reward the worthy. That will ensure tranquility in the land.


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[Assistant] But the eunuchs denied it all, and the emperor ordered his guards to throw Zhang Jun out.


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[Assistant] He was named the magistrate of Anxi, a county in the province of Ding.


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[Assistant] Upon receiving his, uhm, reward, Liu Bei disbanded the militia he had raised when the rebellion first started and sent the men home. He only retained about 20 or so as escorts and went to Anxi with Guan Yu and Zhang Fei.


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[Assistant] After just a month on the job, he had won the hearts of the people in the county because he never took advantage of them.


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[Assistant] Note how low the bar is here, and think about what that really says about the level of corruption at all levels of government at this point.


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[Assistant] In any case, the three brothers lived in harmony, eating at the same table and sleeping on the same couch. When Liu Bei sat in public, Guan Yu and Zhang Fei would stand in attendance, even if it was for a whole day.


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[Assistant] This was too good to last, though. Four months after Liu Bei assumed his post, the Imperial Court put out a decree that officials who had attained their position because of military merits are to be removed from office.


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[Assistant] Now it doesn't take a genius to figure out that this was the UNIX doing. First, they doled out minor positions to appease the military officers who had been passed over for real promotions.


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[Assistant] Once those officers assumed their new jobs and were out of the capital, i.e. too far away for their grumblings to reach the ears of the emperor, the eunuchs proceeded to take back the jobs they just gave out.


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[Assistant] The decree had Liu Bei justifiably worried about his job.


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[Assistant] One day, an imperial inspector arrived. Liu Bei went out to greet him at the border of the county and politely bowed. The inspector, however, remained seated on his horse and simply waved his whip in return.


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[Assistant] Guan Yu and Jiang Fei were not amused by this, so already this inspectors off to a bad start, and it was only going to get worse.


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[Assistant] I am descended from Prince Sheng of Zhongshan. I started fighting the Yellow Turban Rebels at Zhuo County and have been in some dirty engagements. I gained some trifling merit in those battles and was rewarded with this office.


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[Assistant] How dare you pretend to be a member of the royal house and lie about your merits? The inspector barked. You're exactly the kind of corrupt officials this decree is meant to root out.


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[Assistant] I have never taken advantage of the people for personal gain. What money or gift can I muster for him? Liu Bei said.


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[Assistant] The next day, the inspector had the secretary dragged before him and demanded that he point a finger at Liu Bei and accuse him of mistreating the citizens. Liu Bei went time after time to ask for the secretary to be released, but was turned away at the door each time.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, Zhang Fei has spent much of the day trying to wash away all his trouble with wine. Now he was riding past the inspector's lodging when he saw about 50 or 60 old people weeping at the gate.


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[Assistant] That was like dropping a match on gasoline. Zhang Fei, already drunk and annoyed, exploded. He leaped off his horse and stormed into the inspector's lodgings. He stomped into the rear quarters where he saw the inspector sitting on high while the secretary was tied up on the floor. You scum! Do you know who I am? Zhang Fei cried.


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[Assistant] Before the inspector could even say a word, Zhang Fei grabbed them by the hair, dragged them outside, and tied them to the hitching post.


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[Assistant] Zhang Fei then snapped off a branch from a willow tree and thrashed the inspector until the branch broke. He then snapped off another branch and lashed the inspector until that branch broke. And so it went, with Zhang Fei going through a dozen or so branches.


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[Assistant] While all this was happening, Liu Bei was sitting alone and thinking about his troubles. When he heard the commotion outside, he asked what was going on.


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[Assistant] His attendants told him that Zhang Fei was whipping someone tied to a post.


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[Assistant] Liu Bei hurried outside and saw that the guy being lashed was none other than the inspector, so he asked Zhang Fei what's going on.


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[Assistant] If we don't beat scum like this to death, what are we waiting for? At this point the inspector cried out to Liu Bei for help.


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[Assistant] Being the kind-hearted man that he is, Liu Bei stopped Zhang Fei. Guan Yu at this time stepped forward and said, Brother, for all that you have done for the court, all you got was this pitiful little posting. And now you have to put up with insults from this inspector.


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[Assistant] Well, Liu Bei wasn't going to kill the inspector, alas. Instead, he merely hanged his official seal around the inspector's neck and scolded him.


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[Assistant] Considering the harm you've done to the people, I should kill you.


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[Assistant] But I'll spare you for now. Here's the seal. I quit.


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[Assistant] Now, you just know that a scoundrel like this inspector wasn't going to leave it at that. As soon as he got away with his head intact, he went to the governor of Ding province to turn Liu Bei in.


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[Assistant] The governor issued orders for Liu Bei and his brothers to be arrested.


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[Assistant] But the three of them had gone to stay with Liu Hui, a member of the royal house who took them in and kept them hidden in his house.


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[Assistant] Well, despite all the time that we spent talking about Liu Bei and his brothers, so far they haven't really been major players on the political scene. So we're gonna leave them hiding out in Liu Hui's house for a while, and go see what's happening at the court in the capital Luoyang. And it's not pretty.


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[Assistant] So by now, the ten regular tendons control everything.


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[Assistant] They executed anyone who did not submit to them.


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[Assistant] Two of the eunuchs Zhao Zhong and Zhang Rang sent people to demand gifts from officers who had helped put down the Yellow Turban Rebellion.


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[Assistant] Anyone who refused to send presents was dismissed from office. Even Huang Fusong and Zhu Jun, two of the imperial commanders who led the armies that put down the rebellions, lost their positions because of this.


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[Assistant] And that's not all. The emperor then made a eunuch Zhao Zhong, the general of the flying cavalry, and made Zhang Rang and 12 other eunuchs marquises.


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[Assistant] In a system where Unix are not supposed to be allowed to hold any office, much less join the ranks of elite military officers or the nobility,


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[Assistant] This would be considered an extremely bad idea by everyone except the Emperor.


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[Assistant] So not surprisingly, the government deteriorated, and the people griped, and that means, you guessed it, more rebellions.


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[Assistant] This time, the rebellion broke out in two places. In Changsha, a man named Ou Xing started an uprising. In Yuyang, another rebellion started under the leadership of Zhang Jue and Zhang Chun.


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[Assistant] No relations to the Zhang brothers who started the Yellow Turban Rebellion.


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[Assistant] Zhang Jue declared himself emperor and made Zhang Chun his commander.


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[Assistant] A blizzard of urgent messages were sent to the court, but the ten regular attendants kept them all hidden from the emperor.


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[Assistant] One day, the emperor was feasting in the imperial garden with the ten regular attendants when Liu Tao, the court counselor, showed up and appeared to be in great distress. The emperor inquired, and Liu Tao replied,


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[Assistant] Sire, how can you be feasting with these eunuchs when the Empire is in peril?


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[Assistant] Bandits are everywhere, and they're plundering the cities. All of this is the fault of the ten regular attendants. They sell offices and injure the people, oppress loyal officials, and deceive your highness. All virtuous people have left the court. Disaster is imminent.


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[Assistant] Faced with these charges, the eunuchs played their trump card. They pulled off their hats and threw themselves at the emperor's feet and wept.


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[Assistant] If the ministers cannot tolerate us, then we are doomed. Please, sire, have mercy on us and let us return to our farms. We will give up all our property to help fund the army. This dirty trick had the intended effect, and the emperor was enraged at Liu Tao.


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[Assistant] Liu Tao, you also have servants in your home. Why can't you tolerate mine?


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[Assistant] And with that, the emperor ordered the guards to take Liu Tao away and execute him.


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[Assistant] It was the minister of the interior, Chen Dan. He went to the emperor and asked why Liu Tao was being put to death.


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[Assistant] He dared to vilify my servants and insult me, the emperor said.


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[Assistant] All the empire would eat the flesh of these ten eunuchs if they could, Chen Dan said. And yet, Sire, you respect them as if they were your parents. They have rendered no service, and yet they have been made nobles.


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[Assistant] Moreover, Feng Xu was in league with the Yellow Turbans.


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[Assistant] If your majesty don't come to your senses, the state will crumble.


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[Assistant] There was no proof against Feng Xu. The emperor countered. Can you really say that of these ten eunuchs, there aren't even just a couple who are loyal?


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[Assistant] Chen Dan then began to kowtow so hard that he was banging his head on the steps of the throne.


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[Assistant] In imperial China, whenever officials start doing this, it's meant as an act of insistence that the emperor take their advice. Of course, oftentimes the emperors do not appreciate being put on the spot like this. And that was the case here.


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[Assistant] The emperor angrily ordered that Chen Dan be removed, and that both he and Liu Tao be thrown into prison. The ten eunuchs didn't waste any time. That very night, both ministers were killed.


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[Assistant] The Unix enemies were eliminated, but there is still the matter of the two rebellions. To deal with this, the Unix forged an edict making Sun Jian the governor of Changsha.


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[Assistant] Remember from earlier in this episode that Sun Jian had joined the army of Commander Zhu Jun in pacifying the second wave of Yellow Turban Rebels. After that victory, he, unlike Liu Bei, got a plum assignment, and now he got another promotion and was sent to suppress the rebellion of Ou Xing,


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[Assistant] Within two months, he reported that the county had been pacified. For this good work, he was named the Marquis of Wucheng, so his star was definitely on the rise.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, an official named Liu Yu was made the imperial protector of You Province in order to lead an army against Zhang Ju and Zhang Chun.


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[Assistant] At this point, Liu Hui, the man who had been hiding Liu Bei and his brothers in his house, recommended Liu Bei to Liu Yu. Liu Yu was delighted and made Liu Bei his commander and ordered him to lead the troops against the rebels.


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[Assistant] Liu Bei faced off against the rebel army, and after a number of battles, he broke their spirit. When the going got tough for the rebels, their commander, Zhang Chun, became intolerably cruel toward his soldiers, and they turned on him.


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[Assistant] One of his officers killed him and offered up his head to Liu Bei as a sign of surrender.


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[Assistant] The other rebel leader, Zhang Jue, saw that all was lost and hanged himself.


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[Assistant] For putting down this rebellion, Liu Yu was promoted to Grand Commander. He then reported Liu Bei's great services to the court, which then pardoned Liu Bei for whipping the inspector. He was then named the commanding officer of Gaotang.


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[Assistant] Gongsun Zhan, an official whom Liu Bei had befriended years ago, also he preys on what he had done to pacify previous rebellions, and for this, Liu Bei was promoted again, this time to the magistrate of Pingyuan.


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[Assistant] Ping Yuan had ample money and soldiers, which allowed Liu Bei to rebuild his power base.


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[Assistant] So even though the eunuchs were still in power, at least Liu Bei has gotten his just reward for all the great deeds that he and his brothers performed in restoring some semblance of peace to the land. So there's at least a little bit of justice in the world.