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[Assistant] I figure I'm as good as dead, but until I'm sure, I only have one objective to get to safety. If I'm going to die, it will be trying to get off this mountain.


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[Assistant] I roll over on my stomach. I turn my legs one at a time. Another scream bursts from my throat. I know


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[Assistant] They are there, but I dare not look. The pain tells me better than my eyes could. I plant my elbows on either side of my head. I lever my body forward with my arms. I try not to scream. I know I have to save my energy if I'm going to make it off this mountain. The warm blood running down my chest and back is not a good sign.


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[Assistant] Maybe I could catch up on my sleep. No! As long as I've got a chance to get off this mountain and back to Laura, I've gotta try. I reach as far as I can, stick my elbows in the mud and pull. I don't know how far I've squirmed, daylight is nearly gone. I raise my head enough to see where I'm going. I figure as long as I'm going downhill, I can't go wrong.


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[Assistant] Through the twilight and smoke, I see, directly in front of me, someone squatting on the ground, leaning over another man. I squirm a little further.


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[Assistant] Wait up pal, he yells. His voice is loud but calm. Here in the middle of hell is a medic. He has blood all over him. Obviously, all of it or most of it is from someone else. Shell after shell after shell shakes the ground and bangs on my eardrums. I'm sure one of those shells is going to hit him and me.


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[Assistant] Is there a place on this mountain that isn't covered by flying shrapnel? I'll help you in a minute, he yells.


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[Assistant] He could be squatting in front of campfire, offering me a cup of coffee. His head jerks down to his chest every time a shell lands close. That's the only attention he gives the storm of shrapnel and the pounding noise. Like hell! I scream, I'm getting out of here!


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[Assistant] I can hear his voice and feel his hands as he ties my bandages. He's calm and sure he doesn't need, doesn't seem to be afraid at all. I marvel now at his bravery. Even as I yelled then for him to let me go so I could squirm down the mountain, he tried to calm me by telling me that the stretcher bears would show up soon.


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[Assistant] As he crawled off to help another man, I turned over on my belly, screamed as I turned my legs and went back to squirming.


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[Assistant] That medic well may have, may well have saved my life or at least my sanity.


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[Assistant] I don't know how much time passes. I make some progress. I'm in the trees now but the shells follow me there. Some trees are still standing. They will soon be shattered by Chinese mortars.


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[Assistant] They set their cases down and yell at the other ammunition bearers to come back for them. I don't recognize them either.


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[Assistant] But there has been quite a turnover in King Company in these last few months. They lift me, put arms around my shoulders, even as Ike and I had done with another GI six months and a lifetime ago on Hill 174. By way of thanks, I scream in their ears.


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[Assistant] We make more progress this way, but I finally yell for them to stop. Every time either foot brushes against a rock or cloud of dirt, it spins around and my friends get another scream in their ears for their trouble. I can't go any further. The pain is costing me more than my life is worth.


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[Assistant] This is the second time for me to get off this mountain. And both times I haven't been sure that I'd reach the bottom alive.


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[Assistant] About halfway down, we meet several medics with a crew of stretcher bearers. They stop long enough to give me a shot of morphine and transfer me to another stretcher.


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[Assistant] In total darkness we wait for a jeep. I can hear the mortars and see the flashes from exploding shells flickering on the low hanging clouds. Finally I hear the whine and rattle of a four wheel drive in low gear as a jeep bounces off the rocky creek bed.


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[Assistant] The medic and jeep driver strap me onto the jeep and put one other man next to me. He seems to be unconscious. In the flashlight's beam I can see why. He's riddled with shrapnel from head to foot. There are wounds in his face and cuts all over his clothes. Blood is oozing from most of them. I can hear him wheezing. He must have punctured a lung.


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[Assistant] The jeep winds in low gear as we move down the creek bed.


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[Assistant] It rocks along throwing us against the straps. I can't hear the other man wheezing anymore.


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[Assistant] When we get to the battalion aid station, medics unstrap us from the stretchers. I ask, how is he?


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[Assistant] I don't know my fellow passenger, but we're buddies now, united by the blood we left on the stones of that creek bed and on that mountain. He didn't make it. A medic continues to unstrap my stretcher.


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[Assistant] I wonder if I'm gonna make it. They carry me into a large heated tent. I stare at the bright light overhead until I'm forced to close my eyes. I can't understand what the doctor is saying.


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[Assistant] And here he is in that exact same situation except he has no hole to be in. And he does get hit. And somehow makes it out of there.


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[Assistant] And you can see that because how many times do they do pre-fire?


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[Assistant] Artillery fire and mortar fire on a target and then when they go get the tar- go to actually assault the target, there's all kinds of people that are still alive.


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[Assistant] And, I mean, I had that, uh, in the, in the blue on blue that I talked about in the beginning of the book, Extreme Ownership, the,


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[Assistant] The army put like 150 rounds of .50 caliber machine gun into the building that my guys were in from 30 yards away. 150 rounds of .50 cal. That is...


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[Assistant] And you put, whatever, put eight guys in a building, and then you put 150 rounds into the building. Especially, you know, if you're, you're probably gonna shoot at the rooftop of the building, or you're gonna concentrate in certain areas. It's not like you have to spray the whole building. You're gonna concentrate where you think someone would be, tactically.


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[Assistant] Same thing with mortar fire. You can get mortared and everything can be perfectly fine.


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[Assistant] So, he got very unlucky and then very, very lucky.


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[Assistant] Fast forward a little bit, some day yesterday I was put on a litter bus.


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[Assistant] The hours all run together. We arrive at the evacuation hospital. I sleep. I don't know how long I've slept, but I awaken as two men pick up my stretcher. The same nurses walking besides me. They carry me to a helicopter pad. My stretcher set on the brackets of the waiting helicopter.


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[Assistant] I don't remember much of that flight. The helicopter stands at an airstrip right next to a C-47, a suit we take off soon after I'm transferred to the plane. I landed in Korea surrounded by almost 200 friends in exactly six months. I lost most of them in that land of hate and killing.


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[Assistant] So now I'm doing a pretty big fast forward through the book. We're going all the way to 30 April, 1951. This is two months since he got wounded or almost two months since he got wounded.


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[Assistant] And he goes through some of his recovery, it's just suffering, it's pain, it's agony, he's in there with all these, I mean, it's, it's wretched. But finally, two months later,


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[Assistant] For a few seconds I feel anger building in me. That's a pretty cool ju- cruel joke.


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[Assistant] Especially since he should remember that the nurses told him I was expecting to have a child any day.


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[Assistant] He smiles broadly and assures me it's no joke. There's another section in the book where the doctors


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[Assistant] Like I said, he's very honest about his feelings.


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[Assistant] For my final medical chart, the one that will go on top of my hospital records is finished. I weigh 134 pounds.


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[Assistant] That's after two and a half months of good chow and all the goodies I can eat. I wonder what I weighed when I came off the line.


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[Assistant] 10 May, 1951. The flight to the States is long and tiring. He goes to Tokyo. He goes to Midway Islands. He goes to Hawaii.


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[Assistant] I wonder what she thinks after talking to me for the first time in nine months. Did I sound like the young man she fell in love with, or was she talking to a stranger? Our son was born about the time I left Japan.


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[Assistant] Laura and our son Dwayne are well. I told her I was set for a flight to San Antonio and Fort Sam Houston Hospital the very next day.


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[Assistant] At last, we said the words we had been waiting to say for months. I love you. I love you. I told her I would be with her as soon as I could.


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[Assistant] Fast forward a little bit, less than two hours after arriving in Fort Worth, where I met my, where I met by my sister and brother-in-law, I hobble into Laura's arms. I set my crutches aside and fold the woman I love in my arms.


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[Assistant] This is the woman who, in spirit, sat beside me in my foxhole and kept me from losing my courage during the never-ending attacks. The woman I thought of when I had to drag myself out of my sleeping bag or freeze to death.


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[Assistant] I remember the smile of this woman brought with it the strength to climb a hundred mountains and to live in the ground like an animal without becoming one.


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[Assistant] The lovely image of this woman in my mind gave me the will to crawl off that mountaintop.


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[Assistant] When to stop and lie still would have been so easy, but would have meant my death.


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[Assistant] Our love spanned thousands of miles that separated us and has overcome the terrible odds of six months of combat that destroyed most of the men of the original King Company.


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[Assistant] The love of this beautiful courageous woman gave me the strength to continue when I was so afraid I wanted to give up and shoot myself. When I was so tired that death would have been easier than taking the next step. When I was so terrified during mortar barrages and fire flights that I wanted to curl up in the corner of my foxhole and wait to die.


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[Assistant] The worry, the fear that I might never see Laura again has passed. We whisper the words we spoke into the wind a thousand times, hoping it would be carried over the world to our soulmate. Three words written over and over in every letter with tears or sweat or snowflakes for punctuation. I love you. I love you. I love you. Before I lay down to rest, I'm introduced to our son.


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[Assistant] I missed arriving home for his birth by 12 days. I worried from the time Laura had written that we were to have a child, that I might be, that I might leave my bride as a widow, and that my son would be fatherless before he was born. Instead, God saw fit to allow me to remain alive, though badly battered. To hold my wife and my son is a long-deferred dream come true. Now we can begin to heal.


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[Assistant] He says this, I still have nightmares and what the psychiatrist call night terrors. Once in a while I have a horrible dream.


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[Assistant] Many of the experiences, good and bad, I will stay with me until I die.


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[Assistant] Laura and I were blessed with two more boys and two girls. I went to college under the GI Bill.


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[Assistant] Earned a master's degree and taught fifth and sixth grade children for 13 years. Then I developed administered an outdoor learning program to teach the same grade of city children about nature and country life. After seven years of that, I worked for the U S postal service for 10 years. Laura and I finally got our farm.


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[Assistant] Neither of us is capable of doing much physical labor anymore but we enjoy living in the country as we had planned


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[Assistant] I've had problems with my right knee and thigh since the day I was wounded. Over the years, I've had five surgeries on that leg and still experience chronic pain. Several pieces of shrapnel migrated close to the surface of my skin and have been removed.


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[Assistant] Ike got home okay. Laura and I went to see him in 1951. We had a nice visit with him and his family. We didn't see or hear from each other again until 1997. We talked on the phone, but we didn't seem to connect with each other as we did in Korea.


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[Assistant] Ike and I composed a letter to Malul's mother soon after he was killed. Laura wrote her too. I'm afraid we were all carrying a pretty heavy load of pain, both physical and emotional. As with Ike and me, we quit writing to Mrs. Malul.


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[Assistant] Several years ago I was contacted by William M. Garrity in California.


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[Assistant] He said he was the record keeper for the Gerrity clan in America. He had Willie's name in the clan book but didn't know he was dead. He thanked me for the information. He said in an email later that he had tried to contact the part of his clan that lived in New Jersey. He wasn't successful.


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[Assistant] Just months before sending this book to the printer, I found out that Corporal Muriel G. Brown listed as KIA on the Korean War Project Database. He was killed a week after I was wounded.


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[Assistant] From distance. We, we look at war from a distance. We look at war through the television. We look at war through the media. On the news. But, a lot of people forget and don't know. They didn't, maybe they never knew. They don't understand what war is like on the ground. What war is like for the people on the ground. They, they often times they don't even remember that they're people. They don't know that they're people. They don't relate to them as people. They think of them as a soldier. That soldier is a person.


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[Assistant] So I recommend that we use our minds before we use our guns. And people fight their own egos before they fight each other.


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[Assistant] And give them the equipment and the knowledge and the authority to win.


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[Assistant] Uh, just openly pissing yourself, shitting yourself, cause you're horrified. And that's by the way not happening one time, like I got scared once. Right. It's like over and over again.


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[Assistant] This is a nightmare. You can either say that or you say, oh that person's got shell shock or that person's got PTSD. And of course there's various levels, but someone that has a massive case of post-traumatic stress,


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[Assistant] Like what are they going through? They're going through that 24 hours a day. And 7 days a week. And there's no relief. Yep.


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[Assistant] Until they, until they get help. Because there is relief when people that are in that situation get help. You can get help. You can get better.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, not, the World War I guy sitting in the trenches was the worst.


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[Assistant] They changed the definition. Like, in World War I, they started saying, you're not, you don't have, instead of saying, hey, your brain, for a while they said, oh, your brain is getting rattled.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. That's what they did. And this is like, I think it was the German government was like, oh no, you, you actually, it doesn't affect you. You're just being, you're just a coward. Right. So get back up there. And there are, you know, from the shell, from the actual literal shock of the shells having your brain. I mean, how'd you feel? Did you get hit a lot playing football? How often do you get a concussion?


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[Assistant] Now just imagine how long, oh that over your career? Yea. I played wires.


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[Assistant] These other guys, like. Okay, so over your career of, let's say, what, 12 years of football? You had 10 of these.


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[Assistant] Like, what does that do to your brain? That's not good. That's what if, that's what a guy in the trenches in World War II was just...


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[Assistant] Regular conditioning. That's just, that's just freaking football. Football. Voluntary football conditioning with a, with like a, a sweatshirt on or whatever. Yep. You know? Sneakers. In Hawaii by the way. In Hawaii.


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[Assistant] That is a good comparison. What you're saying is this minor thing, which is actually a voluntary thing that you enjoy doing,


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[Assistant] Would make you wake up in the middle of the night startled. So yes, so yeaah, you want to imagine what it's like when you get mortared, when you're freaking sitting in a foxhole, in a artillery barrage for hours, and by the way, the artillery barrage, what you know is gonna happen is,


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[Assistant] This is what you know, I don't know if I explained this. When the artillery and the mortar barrage is happening, and you're sitting in your foxhole waiting to die,


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[Assistant] So yeaah, then you come back, and, and what's awesome is, you know, Ted, and unfortunately Ted passed away, uh, but, you know, what an amazing life.


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[Assistant] Five kids, six kids, uh, did all kinds of cool stuff, was a teacher, ran an outdoor program, worked for the post office, like lived an awesome life. Who stayed married to Laura by the way, his whole time she passed away as well. Just, uh, pretty amazing that he came back from all that and carried on with the rest of his life.


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[Assistant] I don't like with it when you're just listening to it. It's a Christmas miracle, he's calling it. This is a miracle.


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[Assistant] Fire for effect. What is that? What's the difference? So you remember how I was talking about bracketing? Yea. So my first one went long.


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[Assistant] So now I'm going to pass the word fire for effect. So if I'm the forward observer,


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[Assistant] And so I can see where the things are impacting and the mortar team can't. So the mortar team...


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[Assistant] He sends one long, I tell him short 350 or short 300 and then they hit one short and I say add 150 now it's gonna hit. They add 150, now it hits the target and now I say like on target fire for effect and now you just start dropping on that.


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[Assistant] You're hitting the target. You're hitting the target. Fire for effect, yep. You're hitting the target. You're firing for the effect that we want, which is that we want the target to be destroyed. Oh, okay. Cause there's like, cause the first fire is like a rate. You don't call it this, but essentially it's, I give you the coordinates and I tell you to fire.


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[Assistant] I'm just wanna see where it's gonna land. Oh, it went long. Drop 300. So you, the mortar team drops 300. Now it falls 300 or 150 meters short. Cool. Add 150. Boom. Hits where I want. On target. Fire fur effect.


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[Assistant] Yeah, fire effect. Add it to your, add it to your notes. So, so like, where you might use that in everyday terminology, is, let's say, you were arguing with someone, and you find that little, that little jink in their armor, fire for effect. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Thank you. Thanks once again to Nina that sent me this book and maybe Mary Lou, um, Ted offices daughter perhaps gave her the book, but thank you very much. It was an honor to be able to read and share that story and just amazing, amazing family and awesome to be able to read it. So thank you. Uhm, with that,


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[Assistant] Uh, hey, if you want to support the podcast and you want to support yourself at the same time in a kind of a big way. And look, there's love.


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[Assistant] There's times where you don't want to wash the ulcers on your legs because you don't want to waste any water. Sure.


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[Assistant] And then there's drinking a mulk, like the other end of the spectrum. Just imagine it, imagine what it'd be like if you just got to crack open a, like you're in Korea, and you just get to crack open a mulk. Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] So good. Uh, we got a bunch of stuff, JockoFuel.com, go and get some supplements, go and get some, some hydration, get some greens. Have you been doing the greens creatine combo?


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[Assistant] But he definitely is crediting. I mean obviously credit discipline, credit hard work, but he's throwing some


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[Assistant] At the creatine. Yea, that's what he said. It's a real thing, man. Creatine is real. It's one of, it's, I think it's actually not one of, I think it's the most tested supplements there is. Yea, and it's not just good for your muscle recovery too. It's like,


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[Assistant] It's good for your cognitive capacity. It's good for everything. So get yourself some creatine, get some, I mix it with greens in the morning. That's what I've been doing. Uh, yeah, mulk. Hey, the mulk coffee scenario.


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[Assistant] Like, it's awesome. Because we put, what we did was we put protein into a delicious coffee.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? Leif Babin's like, he's a coffee dude. You know dudes in the Navy drink coffee? I mean dudes in all services, but in the Navy, the reason you drink a lot of coffee in the Navy is because you have access to it. Like you're on a ship, you're not in the field. So if you're in the regular Navy, dude, they got, you're getting coffee.


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[Assistant] If you're in the army or the Marine Corps, you might be in the field. You're not getting coffee. That's just the way it is.


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[Assistant] Cops like coffee too. But Leif, coffee. And the reason, you'll be with Leif, like,


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[Assistant] Doing something. And he'll do all stop getting coffee. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] I technically, so my wife's from England, so she's technically a tea drinker, but the coffee that she likes, she likes kind of the Americanized kind of coffee. The delicious coffee, right? This is one of those.


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[Assistant] I think if you look at a bell curve, the one side of the bell curve is extreme coffee, like black coffee, just, I just want, love coffee flavor. Other end of the bell curve is I hate coffee. I think we landed as good as you can possibly land on the flavor.


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[Assistant] Go to JockoFuel.com and get this. Get some joint warfare. Get what you need. Get what you need. You can also go to Wawa.


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[Assistant] Myer, same thing in the game. Harris Teeter, lifetime fitness. Shields, small gyms everywhere. And by the way, if you, if you got a gym, jujitsu gym, maybe a CrossFit gym, maybe just a, uh, a powerlifting gym, an Olympic lifting gym, a yoga gym, I don't know what kind of gym you got, but if you go to a gym,


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[Assistant] Tell your people there to e-f, to email jfsales at jacobfuel.com so we can get you hooked up and you can, you can take care of your customers. If you're a customer, you can get taken care of by having the goods. jacobfuel.com, get it. Uh, also, you might need clothing, right?


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[Assistant] With your jujitsu gi. Dude, there's times, hey look, back in the day, having a jujitsu gi was kind of like, having more than one jujitsu gi was a little bit of a luxury.


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[Assistant] And the other thing is, when you, back in the day, if you had one of those old crappy jujitsu giis,


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[Assistant] Washing it wasn't evolution. It was like, uh,


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[Assistant] It was like an event. Like, it was gonna take, you had to put the freaking thing on a heavy load, it was gonna take nine hours to dry, it just sucked. Sometimes we were just off


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[Assistant] Origin gi. You can get origin jeans. You can get origin pants. Just regular pants. We got these moab pants that just came out. You probably didn't get any yet.


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[Assistant] Yeah, check. OriginUSA.com, get yourself some stuff. American-made. Hey, look, by the way, American-made, here we are, we just read a book about fighting the Chinese communists. And go look at North Korea compared to South Korea.


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[Assistant] And you tell me that freedom is not what we should strive for and what we should protect and what we should embrace. And yet, if you buy...


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[Assistant] Most clothing items right now, you know where they're made? They're made in communist China. By slave labor. So don't support that. Don't support that system. Instead, support freedom. Support America.


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[Assistant] OriginUSA.com Fight the war against the communists!


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[Assistant] It's, hey, it's definitely, it's definitely even with whatever other things might be at the top level. Sure. You can't get, you can't get above it. No. You can't get above it, cause jeans are American, and then these are American cotton, American brass on the, on the rivets, American zipper, American thread, and American hands. So there's no more American that you could get.


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[Assistant] One level up because it's an American flag. But let's face it, when you see jeans, do you not think America? Yea, it's kind of.


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[Assistant] Also, get yourself some steak. You don't have to eat sea rations. No. You have to eat spoiled sea rations. I even read that part of the book. Part of the book, he's, they get done with this big... battle. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And he's, it's over, and now he's like, great, now I can freakin' break into my Sea Rattens. His Sea Rattens rations can was hit by shrapnel and was just gone. Just like.


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[Assistant] Horrible day. You don't have to go through that. Get yourself some steak. Go to ColoradoCraftBeef.com


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[Assistant] Or go to PrimalBeef.com and get yourself some American steak. That's what we're doing.


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[Assistant] Awesome companies, awesome people, support America. Primal beef dot com, Colorado craft beef dot com.


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[Assistant] I do sometimes, but mostly it's either my wife, my daughter, my son, and not me. Most of the time.


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[Assistant] You know, like he's into it. For three days, by the way. Hey, look, Sean Glass has the technique, you know, for...


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[Assistant] It's what is it? I think, I think my wife might have modified it a little bit, but basically it's


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[Assistant] You make your hot pan, this is for a pan cooked. Cast iron pan hopefully. But three minutes one side, three minutes the other side, two two one one. Okay, so that's like a technique.


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[Assistant] But Leif will be like, so for me, that's like too much effort. What is that? What's three and three is six plus two and two is, is, is four. So now we're talking 10 and then 101 and we're talking 12 minutes. That to me is kind of excessive effort for me and I'm like, I'd rather just open up a


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[Assistant] Get a freaking new grill for me. But that's, that's what he's thinking. He's like, hey, we're gonna do this. Let me just get you. I think, I don't remember, he may have actually literally gotten me a new grill. I don't remember. I mean it wasn't, I probably was just like at the Home Depot gig that you can get for whatever, 200 bucks or something. Or maybe you got one of those charcoal ones or something.


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[Assistant] Well listen, one thing that's going to make your steaks taste good, PrimalBeef.com, Colorado Craft Beat.


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[Assistant] You wanna gain those skills. We also have an online training protocol. You can go to ExtremeOwnership.com and you can learn how to go through life in a better way.


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[Assistant] Just have advantages at every turn. That's what we're teaching there. Advantages at every turn. I don't care what you're doing. We got you.


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[Assistant] Go to extremeownership.com, check that out. If you want to help service members active and retired, you want to help their families, Gold Star family, check out Mark Lee's mom, Mama Lee. She's got a charity organization, really, truly helping out veterans. And you know, I said that during the podcast, we should make sure we're taking care of our veterans. Mama Lee does just that. She gives them


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[Assistant] Medical help that they're not going to get otherwise. So, if you want to help out that organization, or you want to volunteer, or you want to donate, go to americasmightywarriors.org. Also don't forget about Micah, he is up there with heroesandhorses.org taking vets up into the mountains.


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[Assistant] So they can find their soul again. He does an awesome job with it. Also, Jimmy May's organization beyondthebrotherhood.org. Check that one out as well. If you want to connect with us.


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[Assistant] I'm at Jocko Willink. Echo is at Echo Charles. Just watch out for the algorithm. Which is, by the way, a psychotic, evil thing. Watch out for it. Don't let it get you.


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[Assistant] And to those of us, to those of us that have served, but more importantly to those of people who have served, are serving, if you were a vet,


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[Assistant] Thank you. And especially today, this day, uh, a special deep thank you to those of you that fought in the Korean War. The so-called Forgotten War, we will not forget.


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[Assistant] For allowing me to get this book. Nina, thank you for sending it to me. And thanks to those veterans of that war.


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[Assistant] Thanks also to our police, law enforcement, firefighters, paramedics, EMTs, dispatchers, correctional officers, border patrol, secret service, and all other first responders. Thank you for your service here at home, and to everyone else out there, be thankful. Be thankful. Be thankful for a warm bed. Or


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[Assistant] Be thankful for your air conditioning. Be thankful for a hot shower.


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[Assistant] Be thankful for a hot meal. Be thankful for clean socks. Be thankful for the opportunities that we have. Opportunities that were bestowed upon us through suffering and sacrifice.


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[Assistant] Be thankful for those that gave us this gift. Thankful for men like


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[Assistant] Yeah, well that does make sense because even just in everyday life, you know, we're grown adults now.


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[Assistant] And you know you think of, I don't know if you have this, where you think of something you might have said to somebody, or did, or like behaved, and you just regret it and you can't get that time back, you know, you almost want to be like,


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[Assistant] Like you wish you could just rewind time and like not do that, you know, kind of a thing, but it'll, and it won't ruin your life or nothing like this, but it's, even now if you're reminded of something you did 30 years ago, it still actually has like an actual impact on how you feel. It's like that kind of, and it's just such a small thing, you know, so I can't imagine, or I can imagine how big of a deal it is, you know, in these extreme situations.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but that's number one. That's different. You know, like what you feel in your head is like, is different, you know?


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[Assistant] She'll get like offended or just troubled with this and how this went and or I'm feeling this for this reason and I'll be like, hey, no, no, no, this is all normal. You got to understand this how it works. But what you're feeling right now is completely like that's normal. Everyone feels like that. And then it, it helps 100% of the time or it has in my experience.


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[Assistant] But yea, and in football I'd have super, super dry mouth. It was weird, just for the first maybe like 3-4 minutes of the game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like that feeling of the unknown. Yeah, the feeling of the unknown is worse. Yeah, it's like at least you got some relief from that, you know, and you're not really considering like, you know, the new stuff or new issues because they're not right there in front of you, you know, you could see that.


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[Assistant] You know, in elementary, what elementary school did you go to?


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[Assistant] Is there red bricks on them? So, in, I think in high school too. I forget. Anyway, you know the fire drill? We did the fire drill. And did you ever go through the fire drill and think like, this is the most mundane thing pretty much ever? Yea. It's like you just... It also doesn't seem real good.


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[Assistant] It's probably the best broad drill to have, cause why would you go out the window? Like, come on, I don't know, your school, I don't know how it was shaped, but given my situation at our school,


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[Assistant] Cause if it's like, hey, if everyone be lighting towards the door, bro, we're gonna get jammed up in the door. Like little bottleneck scenario kind of thing. And then if we go single file to this very specific place, we all know what to do when there's an actual fire. Literally know what to do. Little kids. Not just me, a bunch of little kids too.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, if there's, it kinda makes sense to think kinda, you're reading this and just thinking about how that works. It's like yeaah, you've literally been


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I remember in football, and in Jiu Jitsu is a big one, where, cause that's what practice is, right? It's levels of rehearsal, essentially.


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[Assistant] I remember when I played football when I first started playing when I was 11 years old. And I remember going through these prac- these plays and practice all the time in our first game. And I remember getting a play called


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[Assistant] Where I had to, you know, they give me the ball and I run and do all the stuff and I'm thinking like, how the heck is this going to play out with some real another team? You know, when I'm looking at the faces and I don't know those other faces. And it's almost surprising.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, it's weird how that can just play out like that. Be so beneficial.


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[Assistant] But, I would almost wager that he was more concerned about his shot than yours. Like the way you were like, it would be funny if this was a ca- where you know how you're like, okay, I gotta get my shot or whatever and Caleb's like, oh I don't care if Jocko gets his shot, I'm over here trying to get this shot. This is the important shot here. You see?


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[Assistant] Like, it is like a flow, a little dance, where, yea, especially if he's right up against you or whatever, and just like, even like, uhm.


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[Assistant] You know, you don't want to disturb the habitat kind of a scenario, but at the same time you want to like capture it, like the best you can. You want to get right in there if possible, you know. Even when Alex Honolulu was talking about that, where like his guy, because that guy, he's kind of in the mix with you. You know, he's not standing on the sidelines with a, you know, lens trying to get there. He's like with you. So yeah, you guys got to kind of work together in that way.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, but the Hilo, is there like a technique to the Hilo, like an actual protocol? Yeaah, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. So isn't there, I mean, I'll imagine there's, uh, this sounds kind of familiar where like, there's a car one too, right? Where you're in like the car, there's like a protocol.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so that part would be spookier.


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[Assistant] Yeah, then it all comes flying in. Yeah, then you gotta be careful. No, you gotta suck that up. So it's like this fortitude you kinda gotta have, you know?


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[Assistant] Yeah, so if you have that plan, you know, hey, this is part of the process, this shitty part where the water's freaking coming in and you're like, you wanna panic right now, but you gotta like, let it fill up, get underwater, then things can, can kinda continue. Yeah, that's kinda scary. But yeah, if you're, if you're trained in it, it kinda seems like, oh, okay.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it's almost like, it comes though, right, where the, it's like, kinda like, a version of the fear of the unknown, like, for ocean, at night, for example.


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[Assistant] I can see how someone would be scared of that. For sure. We've been diving and spearfishing at night since we were kids, so. At.


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[Assistant] At first it's like, what the hell, you have to be scared of, it's just like the regular ocean, just the sun ain't out, it's like literally there's no difference.


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[Assistant] But, when you really consider it, what if you've never been there? Oh yeah. Oh man, it's like, it's kinda like a haunted like place. Yeah. With death just all around you waiting to just eat you, you know? Like everything, in like when you're a little kid and


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[Assistant] The, so I remember when I was a little kid, like a little kid, maybe like six, seven years old. Being in one of these communities, I was in New Jersey.


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[Assistant] And we're in one of these community pools, you can just go to the pool. And there was this, it was this big one with these high dives and I remember that it was so deep I couldn't, I felt like I couldn't see the bottom. That's how deep this pool was.


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[Assistant] And I remember looking down there and thinking, but this is like kinda scary down there, like way down there, you know? It's like, you can't see the bottom, there's infinite, like, just...


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[Assistant] Horrors down there. I don't know what, but it's a pool, so there's nothing literally down there, but I remember that feeling.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, when you grow up, you start to like, you know, logic kicks in and all this stuff, so you're not scared of pools, but think about it, that feeling doesn't necessarily go away. So as an adult, you grow up, that feeling just caught a fight, because you didn't go in the ocean, especially at night, you know, all this stuff, so that fear is now like,


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[Assistant] The machine gun, they shoot blanks, right? Like at buds or whatever. Are those blanks, is that equally as loud as like a real one? Yes, absolutely. Straight up. Yep. So it's like a pretty good representation of machine gun fire in your ears.


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[Assistant] Freakin' thing. You know, big factor in the thing. So yea, when you're used to that, it's like, ah, it's way different.


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[Assistant] The whole self-centeredness, cause that's like, it's ego. It's a big ego, baby. It's a big ego, all day. It's weird cause the more, the more you guys talk about ego, or I guess the more we all talk about ego,


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[Assistant] And how it can disappear in so many places, but there's so much to like this idea of self-centeredness, like selfishness, narcissism, inflated ego, like however you want to kind of put it, like it seems like there's different like, little, uh, departments.


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[Assistant] It's less about like other people, more about this person's self, where like, nothing lands on them if it ain't about themself, kind of a thing.


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[Assistant] And not others, kind of a thing. Cause there's a difference between like, hey, if I go out, like, I don't know, I went out on my own, I had to use the bathroom on a desert island, I don't know, we're trying to survive. And I go and I see this like,


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[Assistant] Okay, so it's one thing to be like, Hey, I'm going to eat some and then.


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[Assistant] Remember, oh wait a second, let me bring some back for, for the rest of the people. Or for, you know, whoever else is with me. Versus, oh I'm gonna do that same, I'm gonna eat some, but I just totally just forgot about it. I forgot about others, you know, like.


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[Assistant] That's like a weird, that's like a version of self-centeredness where it's not an active like, okay, I could and I choose not to, it's just that you don't even think about other people. You're just so self-centered, you're just like your whole reality is just centered around you and that's sorta it, you know? Versus the guy who's like,


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[Assistant] Like they almost reject others actively and think about themselves. That's like a different flavor of self-centeredness. Seems insane.


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[Assistant] Yes, so consider that exact thing. Like, so there's a difference between, look, both equal scenarios, right? But there's a difference between the person who sees the code person and


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[Assistant] Uh, malignant self-centeredness or something like that. You see what I'm saying? Because I know, like I said, I know some people.


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[Assistant] Couple of them. That, they're kind of this benign self-centeredness. They're super nice to you when you talk to them and stuff like that, but anytime like,


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[Assistant] And sometimes, in my case, Brian didn't even know this. I didn't even realize it. I was like, I wonder? You know how you're just left with a certain feeling a lot of the time? It's like, why am I not vibing as much? Cause they're so nice, these people. You know, they're like nice, the ones I know anyway. And I just don't vibe as much as maybe another person or whatever.


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[Assistant] That's, that's what I'm kind of stumbling upon, you know, that there's versions of self-centeredness, you know.


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[Assistant] It's a bunch, it's a collection of experiences. It's not just, oh yeaah, I listened to this guy's speech and he said I 39 times. That's not it. That's a rather a pattern. Yeaah, exactly right. Where...


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[Assistant] Again, yeaah, your first experience with someone, it's like that's not enough info, you know? It's like you're left with a certain feeling for a certain reason and it's usually because of that consistency, you know? Because there's a difference between using yourself as an example because


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[Assistant] And usually you can sort of formulate, where it kind of formulates after a while, when you have enough experiences with somebody, like what they're doing, which one of those they're doing.


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[Assistant] Our Air Force guys, do they tend to be more proper or what?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause I kinda thought, like, maybe when you're like, cause it's Air Force guys, right? Yeah. Yeah, so I, actually when you first brought it out, I was like, wait a second, this could be, actually it probably does reflect a lot of the common, you know, like ethos of what Air Force guys are.


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[Assistant] I think this is what it probably is. I don't know. I'm me, so I don't know. But it could be more than the normal kind of a thing. Excessive. Yeah, yeah. Like everyone's wearing a level one and you're over here swearing level eight. Like that's a problem.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, comedians, it's real clear too because com- you're up there as a comedian, you're there to be funny first and then everything else second.


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[Assistant] So a lot of times people will be controversial, right? Which, it's super funny when they're funny first, so it works. But when they're controversial first and funny second, it's like, oh, this guy's just trying to be comfortable. And it's not funny, so the violation is very clear, as far as the experience goes. That's what it seems like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that- I think it is that though, it- it has to be as far as uhm, like how much of each of these factors are going on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like snoring, right? Where if someone snores quietly one night out of the week, versus the guy who's just snoring up a storm every single day, super loud, it's kinda like, probably there's a big, big difference. You see what I'm saying? So that makes sense.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but as far as the difference between this guy doing it and this guy doing it, it's kinda like the degrees can make it like worthy of rejection versus, okay.


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[Assistant] To see, okay, what's this person gonna do, you know?


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[Assistant] Public scenario, restaurant, whatever, and then a lot of times the person, like, doesn't step in. They're like nervous, you know, whatever, and they don't react in this, like,


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[Assistant] Favourable way sometimes sometimes they do sometimes they don't right and then haha candid camera like why did you do that? Or why didn't you step in and they put them on the spot? You know a lot of time and I had that same thought right there where I was like


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[Assistant] In a peaceful situation otherwise, like not everyone's just gonna step up and be like a hero, not everyone's gonna do that every single time, you know?


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[Assistant] So we, you know, we get these guys on camera, we put them on TV, and you know, we laugh at them when they don't respond favorably. You're like, ah, freaking no spine, or with no character, whatever, we cast these judgments on this one thing that they were totally set up for, you know?


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[Assistant] Where it's like, yea, what you say would be like, okay, look, under this specific circumstance, they acted like that, you know? Like, bro, stop, bro, leave these people alone. Sometimes it's like,


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[Assistant] You don't know what that guy's going through. You know, you set up this freaking show, all these actors to do all this weird stuff just to ha ha see how this person reacts, bruh. Can't do that, man.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Hell yeah. That's crazy. So is that the real, that's the actual one? That's it. Straight up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause they're like cool little guides where you can be like, huh, cause a lot of this stuff and really a lot of what's kinda out there is just


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[Assistant] Ideas, guidelines, whatever that are not necessarily in this like cohesive formation where some of this stuff, a lot of it, is like...


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[Assistant] I kinda, that makes sense, it's not gonna come as some big revelation or surprise, but to have it like laid out in a certain way where it's like a little guide, where you can be like, cool, survival scenario, but wait a second, that kinda applies to me, in us, in life. Everything, of course. So, just, and when you really think about it- Welcome to Taco Bell.


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[Assistant] Okay, so that goes without saying, okay, but in a way you can kind of look at life as one big survival task. Really? Just on a lower level or less intense level, see what I'm saying? So, all this stuff is a pretty relevant approach to surviving.


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[Assistant] The self-centered part of it too is like, you know, I'm gonna be honest with you.


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[Assistant] Well, some of this ha- I mean, to never do any of these is like, probably that's almost impossible for a human, you know? So it's one of these things where the guide is like, or the manual is telling you, hey, like, this is bad. So hey, if you catch yourself doing this, just freakin' knock that shit off. So the self-centeredness, that's a, that's a big one where, you know how, I don't know, maybe I'm different, maybe I'm the same as everyone else, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I'll just like, forget to get her something to or even ask her like, oh are you hungry? Yea, not every time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like if, hey, if it's a when in doubt, bruh, get it. So yeah, we don't have that rule, so I guess.


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[Assistant] Here's, now that I'm really thinking about implementing this, I kinda can't, this is why. So, a lot of the stuff I get, a lot of times,


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're- or they're not in the mood for it. Cause like, sushi is one of those ones most people you gotta be in the mood for.


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[Assistant] I would actually say now that I'm thinking of it, anytime where it's like a, yea, like a Shake Shack or some burger place or whatever, I know to ask everyone, cause everyone, like, the chance of them being down for that is like probably 90-95%.


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[Assistant] That's community chicken. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, hey, yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right. But I do feel that.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. In and out solid. For sure. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I gotta, I'll formulate a thing, like that being a rule at your house, that makes sense, but it can't be a rule at my house, but it should be.


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[Assistant] So I'll usually ask her whatever and then after a while you start to get the pattern like, hey, it's like freaking eleven at night right now. There's like only a certain amount of sushi places open. She's probably sleeping right now. Or about to go sleep. She's not gonna wait another twenty minutes and then freaking eat. She's not gonna do that. You know, you kinda go through that quick calculus or whatever. So I'm just freaking, I'm just gonna go.


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[Assistant] I don't think you should do the greens creatine thing. Keep them separate? As of right now, with 15 seconds of thinking about it, I think you should keep them separate. This is why. Unless...


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[Assistant] Actually two things, this is why, because they're like, you're mixing it up, so it's like, you know, you think about the experience, so the only time where I'm like, hey,


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[Assistant] It's like more steps and more of a task, more of a time constraint, not in and out, not for one time, I'm saying over time. And you feel that when you're like, okay, oh, the ready to drink is just ready to drink, this other one I gotta open the, I gotta go get the container, I gotta go get the mix, if you're doing water, okay, if you're doing milk, okay, now I gotta go grab that, I gotta do that, I gotta clean up, I gotta put it away. It's different if it's RTD, right?


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[Assistant] So, that's the only time I can think of, where if it's like, hey, if you're combining things that are already ready to go, okay.


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[Assistant] But if you're just like, oh yea, you still gotta mix em. You still gotta go find the thing. Now it's just one less container. It's like, mmm, that kinda defeats the purpose a little bit. And then you gotta relegate it to people who want the greens with the, with the creatine. See what I'm sayin'?


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[Assistant] You know, something along those lines where it's like, hey, you're getting your greens, you're getting your pre, creatine, and this is in a drink, that tastes good. It's like refreshing, it's like a little drink, but you got that added, seems saying.


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[Assistant] It's true. Also speaking of freedom and discipline. Cause without discipline, there is no freedom. Look at you. Look at you with the connection. This is real. Bro, check you out. It's true. Look, hey, if you want to represent discipline equals freedom, that concept combined, go to JockoStore.com.


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[Assistant] Get your shirts, your hoodies, your hats. We got some shorts on there too. We have socks coming! Like soon, like within the next few days.


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[Assistant] That is very clear, yes. Especially when you look at your socks, so. And I dig it man, do what you dig, not all of us feel the same way. You know, like when I, hey look, when I'm walking through the freaking, actually where'd I just warm some, oh yea I went to a show. A show.


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[Assistant] What do you want them to see? Never thought about that, you with your grandpa's socks. They're gonna see your grandpa's socks, they're gonna be like, whatever, I'm gonna keep moving. They see my discipline equals freedom socks, they're gonna be like, hmm. Does it say discipline?


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[Assistant] Uh, one time, one time and then has the X flag on there.


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[Assistant] And a lot of other cool stuff on there. Speaking of options on there, there's something called the shirt locker. That you can subscribe to. That's a new shirt every month with different designs. About discipline equals freedom. Quite a few people at the muster.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, and that's how. You know, like I said, you want to represent. Discipline equals freedom.


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[Assistant] Yep, jocostore.com, that's where all this stuff exists.


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[Assistant] 50 fucking boxes of blankets. This is like three pallets worth of blankets.


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[Assistant] Because the tracking information has indicated that they don't have the blankets either.


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[Assistant] He's like, let me ask the one lady that stitches on stuff. She, she doesn't know where they are either. Oh my God.


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[Assistant] Like, he's baffled too. I-I'm absolutely just at wit's end. So, uh, for anybody that's been going like, what the fuck, like,


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[Assistant] These guys, first of all, I get it. We can't post a fucking podcast episode on the date that we're supposed to post it. I get it, okay?


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[Assistant] They usually are towards the end of the month, but my channel is usually like nine days in between episodes or something.


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[Assistant] I try, I try to do every Friday, it's not every Friday, but.


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[Assistant] And uh. Not to be pessimistic or anything, but.


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[Assistant] Scientist said the sun's gonna explode soon. I'm very scared.


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[Assistant] Have you seen that news that it's like the weather guy or something on the news and he's, it was like, it was the morning of September 11th and he's like, it's oddly quiet out there.


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[Assistant] Something's up, like he knew. He was like, the 90s are over. Look to the skies!


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[Assistant] No, yeah, I feel like we're riding along the cliff edge. I don't know what it is. What do you think it's gonna be?


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[Assistant] I'm reading. I have a little bag of Cheetos here. Why are you fucking with me? Do you want to get Cheeto crumbs on the couch?


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[Assistant] Somehow dead chef, where they recycled old clips, talked more than alive Brian, which is kinda weird.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I kinda, I would do that. Did you hear about Shane Gillis going, uh, he's like hosting SNL next week?


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[Assistant] We, we have to cover that at some point. I'm covering it right now. League updated and it has come back full force. It has been a complete societal reverse. Okay.


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[Assistant] Because first, here's the, here's the history. Alright, some of you know old Sam.


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[Assistant] I've grown, okay? But then, and Bizzle came in. Bizzle was like, hey.


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[Assistant] Years. Years. Pretty good record, I think. And then just to see it all come undone that quick.


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[Assistant] No, what's funny about, what's funny about Brian doing it is when he does it, it is not, like he, it's like it, it slips out. Cause afterwards he just goes like, Jesus Christ, like I thought I was, he's like, I thought I was better than that.


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[Assistant] When I messaged you, I was like, you wanna get a rift in before podcast time? You said no.


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[Assistant] And that's what I historically always played. And it's like you're on a fucking island up there.


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[Assistant] There's no help up there. It's a solo game. And if I see that I'm going up against like Adarius or something like that. I fucking hate going against Adarius. I'll be like look, a decade ago when I was in my prime, I would get my ass kicked by this guy.


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[Assistant] It's not gonna happen now. Like, I'm gonna get destroyed. There's no chance.


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[Assistant] It's in ourselves. But it's like, I don't- Because if you lower expectations, people are just happy you show up.


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[Assistant] He's reformed. Really throwing out the n-word. He's reformed. For the most part. Well I didn't start, I, I've, yea.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, it wasn't like, I, once again, I live in the deep south.


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[Assistant] It's like, it's implied. I'm not saying that's what happens. There's just a lot of like, when rap music's on, they're just like...


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[Assistant] I would dress up, I would meet the dress code, but yea, I would go above and beyond. I have a little cane.


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[Assistant] Okay, so the problem is if you're concerned that much about it, that means you don't have any, any like family thing going on? You don't have like, kids?


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[Assistant] So you don't, you're not, you don't have any like progression going on in like your household. And then at the same time, or anything to preoccupy your time.


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[Assistant] And then you don't have any like hobbies. Like these people either go to work and then when they're not at work they're just watching the news.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna, I'm gonna come back and we have a big ol' gun, and I'm gonna be anti-liberal.


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[Assistant] And I'm gonna be like, did you see that new Tucker thing with uh, Putin?


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[Assistant] It was awesome. It was awesome. He did all the hard questions and got out of there alive. I'd be so fucking scared if I was him, because if he does any realistic journalism, they're gonna fucking blow up his plane on the way out.


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[Assistant] Has my undying gratitude. Anytime that someone goes like, I watched this and I'm gonna break it down for you.


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[Assistant] Where I'm getting all my shit filtered for me and they're getting, they're able to... You would watch those, like, movies, bro.


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[Assistant] I have such a great idea for something to send him for the kid, like a household thing, and we should work on it when you're here.


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[Assistant] I would rather die in the rubble than, than be trapped inside that, like at the bottom of a fucking building, in a box, yeaah.


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[Assistant] They're like, it's fire rated. It's like burn proof for like 12 hours or something. But they're like, but you get your oxygen through these little vents. I'm like, well if it's fire outside then no air is getting inside. So you're just suffocating there. That seems, that seems worse than just having a big cinder block hit you in the head while you're sleeping, personally. Yea, but what if the cinder block


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[Assistant] For the audio listeners that haven't seen this, it's a giant, like you're sleeping at the top of a pillar, and then when the building starts shaking, you fall down, like it just sucks down your mattress like Nightmare on Elm Street, and it closes you into like a metal compartment that has food and water. It's like a big nest, a big metal nest. It's like a panic room.


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[Assistant] But just for you, and maybe your dog, if it's on the end of the bed, and your dog's probably gonna get killed in the door that closes on top, your dog's gonna panic and get way better reflexes than you do.


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[Assistant] What, 18 hours inside of a metal box with just a headless corpse?


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[Assistant] Yeah. You know what? I'm glad I don't live in a place that has any sort of...


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[Assistant] Tectonic plate movement or anything. There's no rocks here in Florida. I don't think a earthquake's not possible here, is it? Have you ever experienced an earthquake?


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[Assistant] Dude, you're quick. You're quick with them.


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[Assistant] Cause I watched, I sat there and watched Swift edit a cyberpunk video for you. Great video by the way.


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[Assistant] I think it was three separate nights I sat here and watched him just like, I've never seen someone study four seconds of puking and shitting in my life. He would just, he would make like one little tweak, he's like does that shit look real? That shit does not look real enough.


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[Assistant] My argument before, like me and Brian, we're good boys. We're reform.


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[Assistant] It's not a new on stake about it. It's uh, it's just, it is kind of heartwarming when you come in as that agent of chaos on someone that is just a good person. You fuck them over and then they just go,


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[Assistant] And it's just, it's heartwarming that it's like at no point did I break this guy. He didn't hit me with the N word. All right. Cause we're not playing league, you know, I didn't make them slip that far. So you're trying to like.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to test them. Think of me like, uh, you know, like when God comes down and tests Job in the Old Testament? That style. Windigoon.


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[Assistant] You can't blame us, like what else do we fucking have? What else we got?


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[Assistant] I guess it'd be cool to go to Ireland. I really would.


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[Assistant] Have you seen all those videos of like Irish people shitting on Americans that think they're Irish?


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[Assistant] My grandma used to have one and we would have to go put flag up. Don't let that thing touch the ground!


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[Assistant] I'm hoping that they'll be able to catalog all of our experiences that are posted online. And create an animatronic of us. Almost like that Black Mirror episode. The lady's boyfriend dies and then she gets a robot boyfriend.


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[Assistant] I can put all my hot toys in there. That's kinda cool, but at the same time, I also feel like when you die, I feel like you should just fucking just be gone.


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[Assistant] No reference to you is left, just whoosh, just gone one day.


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[Assistant] That's what happens to a lot of people there. I was, uh, at a graveyard, and uhm,


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[Assistant] There were some engineers that had a grave, or like a mausoleum thing, and all over their mausoleum they have like,


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[Assistant] Calculators. No, like they're, the things that they engineered that they were proud of.


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[Assistant] It's just like, look at this bridge we made, and this, and this stuff. I'm like, you guys have been dead for like, 25 years now. Like...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I just, it felt like, uh, very much like someone just clawing to like, remember me, like the works that I've done, and it is just kind of sad that it's, what was it like after like,


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[Assistant] You know, a couple decades, like everybody forgot you were here for the most part. And so having that mausoleum is just, it seems so desperate. It's like a one desperate thing, one last thing to get people's attention.


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[Assistant] Just kind of sad. Then again, it can be done in a beautiful way, like when David Bowie, he did that Black Star album before he died. Did you see, did you listen to that? That album was incredible. He knew he was gonna die.


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[Assistant] That's not slander, dude. That's the slander on the game, okay? It's libel, not slander.


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[Assistant] You do a lot of My Name is Earl references, is that your, is Jason Lee?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I always, what was weird was growing up, Malcolm in the Middle, I'd watch that, and then Ender's Game, I'd watch that, or I'd read that, it was one of my favorite books.


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[Assistant] He's a little bit too mean-spirited, so Ender is like supposed to be, I think like a genetic mix-up of those two. Where it's like...


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause as soon as they enter, they start doing the bad guy monologuing, right? And he's like, I'm gonna let these things heat up while you're doing that. And he turns on, he starts lubing up with soap.


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[Assistant] Such a Dewey move. It is. There's a lot of parallels. Ender and Dewey.


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[Assistant] When you were talking about your, uh, your links to Native American ancestry, I was, uh...


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[Assistant] All he does is he goes on like Google Maps and he looks around out in the desert.


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[Assistant] And he tries to see like, I think more than anything he's like a geologist. And so he looks for like weird geological formations. You know how like all those hoodoos and stuff like that, that form out there, like the Mexican hat. Uhm, you know what I'm talking about? You know what those are?


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[Assistant] Sure, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, all he does is he finds those on- I think I actually have seen this guy. Yeah, you'll find like just weird, weird ones and then he just hikes out to them. Yeah, he hikes out to them. Yeah, that is really cool. Sometimes they're like, it's like a two day walk to get out there in the middle of fucking nowhere. No water as far as the eye could see and it's a very


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[Assistant] I don't think I would do that, I think I would die out there. But uhm, when he goes out there, often times you'll find where people have just been living, like hundreds of years ago, they would


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[Assistant] Which is such like a, what I would do as a little kid, I would look around and go like, that's like a big sky tower. I'm gonna build like little, like the most fortified place you would ever build out in the middle of the desert. And then once you get finished, you'd go, where the fu- where the fuck's the water?


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[Assistant] I need water, I need food, there's none of that out here, this fucking sucks. But, those videos rock. I've been uhm,


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[Assistant] Well, it's uh, because there's, there's the concept, and then there's some closure at the end. So it's the exact opposite of what I get talking about aliens with Swift. Where he's just like, what if? You know, but what if? Show me some fucking...


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[Assistant] Until there's uh, until there's some closure at the end of this, don't even fucking bring it up to me.


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[Assistant] Have you ever seen those, have you ever seen those pocket pussies that are like...


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[Assistant] They tried to fit as many horny things as possible into one package. So it's like, it's like a flashlight with tits and as an ass on it too.


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[Assistant] But if you want to hit action, you had to go get a full-size sex doll. And how are you going to hide that? You can still take this thing and put it in a drawer. I think.


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[Assistant] I was just, yea, what if an alien stepped out of the ship and he just looked like that?


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[Assistant] Tell all about how it went. They get the uncut porno that we make.


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[Assistant] I think that would be one of the, uh, there has to be a YouTuber that does that first. Like, a lot of female streamers, they go out and they...


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[Assistant] They'll make like a OnlyFans once they get an audience. But I wanna see just like a dude YouTuber just get big and then he's just like, I'm releasing a porno. Like here's a full ass professional grade porno.


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[Assistant] They're that person, like, uh, what is it, uh, like Adam 22, like that guy that had the new- It's like, duh. I see it. I wanna see PewDiePie come out with just like, here's my hardcore...


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[Assistant] She gets a look of fi- like, I- on the way to my hotel room, I had to- I dropped them off at their hotel room, and there's a look of fear as that door closes. Yeah. Help me! Godfathers.


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[Assistant] You need to occupy that time. With something.


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[Assistant] That is exactly what you don't want to do. I've noticed whenever I'm like not working on something, those are my worst days I've ever had because I immediately, once I put down something I'm working on,


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[Assistant] You know, it's always sunny when uh, Mac and Charlie are, have that guy like reading through their resume.


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[Assistant] That's how, that's how like sparsely populated our resume is gonna be.


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[Assistant] And I'm like half the people that are in marketing are just failed like Instagram influencers half the time.


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[Assistant] I think it's important to bring up how dark someone's past was so that you can see how much they've grown. Who fucking cares if someone's born Jesus and then they end up being Jesus?


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's that movie, I think Blind or something, where like the kid had the cast on the entire movie. And I was like-


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[Assistant] I had a kid that was, he didn't have a broken bone or anything, but he had a broke, he had broken blood. He, he was, uh,


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[Assistant] And, uh, I was Bobby Hill. Yeah. I, anyways, I would walk this kid in and at first it was like she was giving it willingly. And then it quickly became like, I was like strong arming her for candy. I was like, I know his blood sugar's fine, but.


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[Assistant] Like the fucking guidance counselor, not the guidance counselor, but the truancy officer was just standing in the, in the room with us while they were doing the blood sugar.


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[Assistant] And I was like, and he knew, he was just like, you guys are in here strong arming this lady for candy. And, uh, he didn't say anything.


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[Assistant] I didn't say shit, I didn't try to get no candy or nothing. She's like, okay, blood sugar's fine. And then she's like, going back to class. And we're like, okay.


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[Assistant] She never had a problem with us ever again, cause I was like, oh, you're gonna rat to the fuzz? Bitch. Dude. So.


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[Assistant] Well, on the flip of that, since you got rewarded by your school...


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[Assistant] I, I used to be part of this after school program where they would, you know, cause school gets out at like 2.30 and my mom worked till 5. And so they would hold me after school and they would have like, they would do stuff for us. They might give us like a little candy or something like that on Friday. Well, one time they were giving us the candy and I sat there and said,


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[Assistant] No, no, I watched the lady pull it out, and then I was like...


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[Assistant] Hey, I'll help you put all that stuff away, just so I can see where she put it.


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[Assistant] And, uh, the, the, the way this place was laid out was they had a, in the cafeteria they had like a stage, and then behind the stage was a hallway, and,


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[Assistant] Uh, that's where most of the after-school stuff was, was like some classrooms back there and stuff. But uh, kind of like the stagehand area where you, there was like a little staircase that went up to the rear of the stage and stuff. There was like these big tall cabinets.


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[Assistant] Well, I, I watched this lady bring all that stuff back there. I saw what cabinet she put it in. And then my brother at the time,


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[Assistant] This was in like the 90s, right? So like, Jinkos were big. Christ.


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[Assistant] So as they got worn down from kids playing on them for a decade, there would be kids that would fall on the pyramid and they would be like, I have like 70 lacerations down my arms because it's these like super, it's just, it's just like a bunch of like little wires. Anyways, we'd go on the far side of that and we would, uh,


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[Assistant] Because the teachers are so lazy, they're not gonna walk all the way around it. We'd, we'd sit down there and we'd eat our fucking roll-ups.


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[Assistant] There was also a very large tractor tire that they buried halfway in the ground that you could get inside of, and some of the kids would go in there and piss.


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[Assistant] When we gotta pretend to play. When we can eat our fruit roll ups. We also knew that like, after X amount of time, they would want to see you. Cause they knew who was there. So like, I would take a couple bites of the fruit roll up. I'd put it in the tread of a tire. And then I would do like a little lap real quick.


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[Assistant] Type, like yeaah, that was my fucking blueprints. They were laid out to me. On Ed Edd and Eddie. I should have been watching something good, like uhm.


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[Assistant] Mr. Rogers or whatever the hell you grew up on. What'd you watch?


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[Assistant] Is number three the fat one with the hat? I thought number two was the fat one with the hat.


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[Assistant] Did everyone in the intro, he's eating like a fucking hot dog with like, spray cheese on it or something? It's like a chili dog or something.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I don't remember any of their numbers. I remember number one was he's just the bald kid that nobody liked. I don't know how they fuck it up, but like every show where there's like a leader, it's always the least cool guy.


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[Assistant] That show, I used to watch Teen Titans, and then I was like,


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[Assistant] This is a cool show, and then T-Titans Go came out, and I was like, this is lame. And then I've had to watch it a lot, because my kids love it. It's grown on me.


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[Assistant] But I always, like, by the way, when I had that story about me wanting to get into robotics and build a battle bot and I couldn't figure it out,


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[Assistant] You know, they were just slapping shit together as working.


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[Assistant] And I was like, Chris, come on over here, we're gonna build a, we're gonna dig like a big trench thing. This was after the guys I had gone over to Gavin's house and he had that awesome red clay tunnel that he had dug that I told you about last time. Anyways.


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[Assistant] For some reason, I called him up and I was like, you need to come over, we're gonna do that at my place. His mom loads him up with just a full-ass shovel, and he's like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm trying to think, uh, there's that movie California with Brad Pitt in it, and he's like a little inbred guy, and he kills his boss, and he's like, I'm gonna go out, you think he's gonna go bury his boss, like dig a grave?


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[Assistant] And then the next morning it shows them leaving and like the camera is on like a crane and it like looks up over his house. And what he did was he dug, like he spent way too much time just digging like this upside down funnel. Like it's just a cone.


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[Assistant] Less wasted energy if you just dug straight down and did like a grave, but instead it was just like a dog burying a bone or something, you know? And that's like the level of excavation we did in the backyard. My mom's like, you just tore up like 13 feet of grass.


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[Assistant] I would pay hundreds to get some fucking grass in this yard, alright? The grass is super important to me.


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[Assistant] It's, uh, even in the middle of January, it's nice and green outside here, so.


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[Assistant] I'm not taking like a, some people get taken aback like, you don't like palm fronds? No, I don't like palm fronds. All this shit. I will leave it in an instant. The second I can go north and run away from my, actually I'm going to go west. I'm going to move out to Austin after. You can go northwest.


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[Assistant] Oh my god. I've got eight messages from one person.


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[Assistant] Do you think you're ever gonna get married? Is that in your cards?


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[Assistant] I'm horrified at the concept of being alone. So I don't, I think marriage was always in my, in my cards.


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[Assistant] Is that going to be a nightmare scenario for you? I'm going to make sure that we have like a formal dining experience. And I'm drunk?


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[Assistant] There's not going to be a drop in this house. And we're going to have, I'm not going to, I'm going to shut down any conversation you have, so it's just going to be quiet at the dinner table.


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[Assistant] Are there bars for like, just like 30 year old people? Like young professional bars?


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[Assistant] Oh yea, like a epoxy table and they just spray it with some water. That's actually probably sh-


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[Assistant] You know, I've been missing those scooters so much. Just cranking those hogs. Wind in their hair. Flying down them roads. Smiling and waving at people. Yeah, got a fucking J resting on the handlebar. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I mean it's not like I have a guest on the, on the little scooter.


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[Assistant] But okay, what about a bicycle? What about smoking a J and riding a bicycle? At what point is it a motor vehicle?


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[Assistant] That scooter is like edging the line. Like if I get a DUI on that thing, I'd be absolutely baffled.


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[Assistant] If you were riding around a scooter at 3am, and the streets were empty,


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[Assistant] Go to a job sober? No, that's not why I'm in San Diego. Okay? I'm here for though.


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[Assistant] Food, the weed, the weather. I've been hankering for one of those California burritos. Did you have one of those from that? There's like a burrito place right around the corner from, from Bizzles.


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[Assistant] There, that guy gave me money, and so he would bump into them, like, it was like he was following them, you know? And, uh, it's kinda odd, I don't know. I don't like my grandpa getting followed around by this guy.


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[Assistant] They're encroaching on my fuckin' territory, yeaah. Don't come in my fuckin' neighborhood with your homelessness. You keep that shit over there in the city. You know? I'll throw money at you then, but in my neighborhood? No. You get shot. Yeaah. Or something. Or screamed at is the equivalent for me. But uhm, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Or sometimes I go really fast in my car and then I screech the brakes so it looks like I'm gonna hit them but all it gets is like a bumper. The bumper just comes in really close and stops. And then I honk.


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[Assistant] I, I used to do like grounds keeping and maintenance at these apartment buildings and there was a lot of homeless people down there and this one time I saw a homeless guy get gifted a box of Chinese food that was fresh from the place like it was a take out box.


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[Assistant] And he just put it on the thing, on the, like, on the ground. I was like, I was like cleaning up stuff. I was like, do you want me to take that? And he's like, yeah, sure. And it got gifted to him. It sat in his hands for three minutes. And then I put it into a garbage can. Yeah, he was like, I'm, I don't want that shit.


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[Assistant] If he had given me some oxy, I would have taken that, but a box of Chinese food? No way. This guy's just making it look bad for the people out there that are really like-


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[Assistant] In an ice cream truck, offer a homeless person ice cream. They walked up thinking it was a donation and then turned around and walked away when they saw it was ice cream. They're like, I'm good.


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[Assistant] How much of a drug problem do you have where you'll turn down an ice cream cone in August? A free ice cream cone.


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[Assistant] Yeah, where they're like standing up and just bent over. Is that what's happening in Philadelphia? It's like, I think it's in like Pittsburgh. It's called Kensington or something is the name of the block. It's like their skid row or something in Pittsburgh and it's uh.


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[Assistant] Apparently they just say, they like stand up and get high because if they lay down, I think...


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[Assistant] They just fall asleep and they don't experience the high, but if you stand up, then you're, then you do stay conscious.


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[Assistant] I've heard that there's stories where they give them like adrenaline or Narcan or something like that. When they think that they're ODing and the person comes to them and they're pissed off because you ruined their eye. God damn it! I was in the middle of it!


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[Assistant] Do you think it's a one, like they just do it once a day, or do you think it's like a constant?


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[Assistant] No, I have not. I'm hurting. I drank that Celsius and it's going right through me.


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[Assistant] During the 70s when she did all of the covers of the famous famous musicians for Rolling Stones.


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[Assistant] And then she, you know, so she was in a, on the exclusive contract.


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[Assistant] For Jan Winner, who owned the magazine as a publisher. Great guy. And uhm.


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[Assistant] And so I got to know her because she came down to South Africa in 1975 for Rolling Stone to take pictures at the Mr. Olympia competition that I won.


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[Assistant] And she photographed us and photographed behind the scenes and everything like this. Her expertise was not to pose or anything, it was just to catch shots that were behind the scenes but just spectacular combinations of things. She just had an eye.


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[Assistant] And the photographs did always the best when she said, I'm done.


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[Assistant] I remember we were doing these photo shoots with Dolly Parton in Nashville.


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[Assistant] And then we did another photo shoot in New York at the studio.


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[Assistant] So she puts the camera away and I walk over.


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[Assistant] And I said, uh, I said, and Donald Biden says to me, he says, let me see those biceps.


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[Assistant] I'm hitting a bicep shot. And, and, and, and annually we would say, oh, this is great. This is great. Is it, I, I just quickly go over there. This is just for myself. Uh, but it's, it's just go behind her.


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[Assistant] This is, this is funny. This is, oh god, oh that makes me laugh. This is for myself. That was the shot that was standing on the fucking cover.


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[Assistant] You know, and, and, and everything. And, and, and she was an expert, the same in South Africa when she was down there. I mean, she says, can I come into your room?


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[Assistant] I was in there naked, right? And I said, yea, sure. And so she came in and...


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[Assistant] And, uh, tastefully and stuff like that. And so she just was always there. And, uh, Franco and I and...


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[Assistant] Well now, now everyone does it, and it's a different ballgame. The quality is not the same. And all of that stuff, Andy Leibowitz will always be Andy Leibowitz. I remember she came with Andy Warhol to, uh, our wedding. To Hainesport.


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[Assistant] And, uh, both of them, Andy Wall and her, were taking pictures there at the wedding, kind of.


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[Assistant] You know, not kind of behind the scenes stuff and just what they saw and they were fantastic photographs.


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[Assistant] So they're just very talented. There's no other day that would go and we'll be able to be at the same wedding.


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[Assistant] And get the same shots, you know, with the same kind of uh, layouts and stuff like that. It was just, it was just, they always knew exactly.


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[Assistant] When to put out that little, because she had this little Leica camera.


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[Assistant] But she didn't have to do anything interesting, and so did Andy Waho. It's just like this.


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[Assistant] But a lot of times not looking through it because the looking through it means I'm serious about this photograph. No.


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[Assistant] It was like, Andy would just have his camera here, and he'd say, this is a good idea. He would just do this. And, you know, he says, he's never gonna catch anything here. How are you, how are you gonna go in?


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[Assistant] See anything if he doesn't look through. And so he doesn't take it seriously. But the fact is he, he took great shots. And he had always his tape recorder there. All the time. One hand, the tape recorder.


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[Assistant] And on the other hand, another camera. So he just could record his entire life at all times.


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[Assistant] Let me think about that. So this is weird shit. For us. For us. But I mean, this was kind of like the original podcasters. You know, they would get this stuff out there somehow. Because he had the magazine, the interview magazine. And he, and you know, he loved me.


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[Assistant] And he thought the world of bodybuilding, the whole idea of creating yourself and molding yourself, he was fascinated by that. Not to do it, to be an artist on your own body. As he always put it, he says, you know, I'm an artist on the canvas, but you're an artist on your body. You're shaping your body.


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[Assistant] Like you're using dumbbells and barbells and machines as if you use, they use clay and, you know, different tools to then shape the clay to make a sculpture. So he was fascinated about all of this stuff.


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[Assistant] No, no, absolutely. Yeah. And I mean, we had, we had everybody there, you know, it was like, it was amazing. Um, some of it, Oprah Winfrey was at that time still a rising star. Um, and so she had her show, uh, in Chicago.


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[Assistant] And, uh, she went from Baltimore to Chicago and then she had a show there.


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[Assistant] And uh, kind of became very popular there, but she was a rising star. So she was a good friend of Maria's and she came to the wedding and.


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[Assistant] So there was all kinds of Barbara Walters and all those kind of people, a lot of people that are dead now already. No. I mean this just shows you your age. The people from your wedding are wiped out already. But it was a really great wedding. They really have done a great job.


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[Assistant] In hand is what Maria's parents and her relatives didn't know how to do something like that.


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[Assistant] But they have taste. They have a really good taste, you know, with parties and events and, and then they have such a, such a rich kind of a,


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[Assistant] Friends. Not rich in as far as money, but rich meaning such a variety of different people from politics.


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[Assistant] From the non-profit sector, from the profit sector, the private sector, from every sector, it was just, and then from domestic and foreign and everything, I mean, it was just people from all over the world.


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[Assistant] It was not, it was like, I mean, I, I felt great that because as soon as I have such a, my people that I invited, they were from entertainment, they were from bodybuilding, they were from my past. So it was not as kind of rich of a variety of different people than they knew. And so I think that together with my type of people that I knew,


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[Assistant] And the kind of people that they knew, it made it really the best kind of mix. And it was fantastic. It was really fantastic. I mean, I enjoyed literally every minute of it, of that wedding. I had such a great time because they just did such a great job.


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[Assistant] There's really not much in it for me, right? It's just, I always like to look forward. It's kind of like, do I want to look out the windshield or do I want to look through the rear view mirror when I drive a car? I rather look forward because I know where I'm going then, rather than always look in the back.


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[Assistant] And so that's the way it is with my life. So the only time


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[Assistant] That they really think about the past is when we do an interview like that.


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[Assistant] Or when I write a book like Being Useful or Total Recall, the book that came out around 10 years ago. Or when we did the documentary for Netflix, we had to sit down like for 40 some hours and answer questions. So that's when I had to think back.


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[Assistant] Or when they say, can you get us photographs for the committee? So now I have to go through my hundred plus photo albums and get them all scanned.


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[Assistant] And then goes through all that, so that's when I really, the only time I think back.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because other than that, I never do. It's not, it's just by nature that, it's not like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I have something against it, just that I don't follow.


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[Assistant] I never look at, you know, kind of old letters. I never think much about anything. I just, I always just have a plan for tomorrow and for the next week or the next month.