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[Assistant] So it's there. So it had rained for like a day or two over there and we're on a mountain and this is, you know, like a dirt road, but it's like, I don't know, some brown kind of sticky clay stuff.


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[Assistant] It's like the sticky mud. It's slick, but not where it's like messy. It's kind of like a clay is the point. And so we have to go down in a land cruiser now and the fast way to get to it is a very steep road down.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah. Yeah. There are no guard rails there and they cut a good road, but it'll be, if you mess up by a foot or two, you're going down. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And I was on the side of the deal, you know, the left side, you drive on the right there. So I was on the.


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[Assistant] Well, it happened in stages. Desmond, the, uh, so he's in the back on a high seat in the back of the truck. He's the professional, he's the tracker.


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[Assistant] He's the first to exit the vehicle. And that's actually when he said, I have small children.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so it's like Desmond gets out, we go like a hundred yards, almost die in this turn. Thomas, we felt like it, Rad felt like he was in control, I think. And then we slide one more time, like yeah, I'm probably going to get out too.


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[Assistant] What is it? I've never seen any of this. Well, you'll see it. You'll see it right here.


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[Assistant] What kind of criticism has the fix gotten in recent years? Like what's, uh, what's like a consistent thing that, uh, people are criticizing?


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[Assistant] Have you taken any of that criticism that people have given you and applied it to the product?


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[Assistant] Yes sir, the G-Shock. G-Shock. I almost said G-Shock like the watch. But yea, G-Shock.


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[Assistant] I mean, and even, like, what people expect, like you're saying, like movie scenes and stuff, what they expect with knives, and then you look at the courses that people can take and see how


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[Assistant] Mostly like criminals are using that. How people actually use edged blades or edged weapons, uhm, and pointed weapons. It's not theatrical and it's just pretty gnarly.


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[Assistant] And that's the other thing too. What's the difference between why do people have this assumption that, oh, a gun is greater than the knife or whatever. Like, you're not, the person doesn't have a knife to just like tickle you or have fun with you.


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[Assistant] Some guys testing that with sim rounds, testing, I think it's like 27 foot rule or something like that. It's a close the distance drill. Right, yea, exactly. 100%. And like 8 out of 10 times, the guy's getting poked before he can get his gun out. And it's all from like, concealed, common concealed, um, positions I guess, or setups.


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[Assistant] Did you, did you do any deployments before you had a tab?


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[Assistant] Do you think Somalia for the military was like the North Hollywood shooting was for like SWAT teams and stuff like? Oh, it's interesting. That seems like it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, apparently the drawdown is supposed to end on September 11th of this year, the 20th anniversary.


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[Assistant] That's cool. I believe that is the Citadel. That's their own. That's not another company's bag. They did all the cut and sew and that's their own thing.


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[Assistant] Oh, you got some slings in there too, I see. Well, I'm getting to it, alright? Alright, cart and horse, mother trucker.


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[Assistant] I know what it is and it's not frog skin, but I can't think of it right now. It's something leaf. Something, something leaf.


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[Assistant] The desert night camo from the 90's came back recently. That is cool. It's like my favorite.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, it's the green, it's like a grid pattern almost. Yeah. Yeah, even that. He's got the pants, I've seen him wear the pants. Yeah. And we got those


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was like 5 to 10 MOA shift. Yeah, that was somewhere around what- Woah, I didn't even know this. Yeah, they fixed it.


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[Assistant] Well the thing with the EOTech 2 is that durability, who knows, whatever, but the, if for whatever reason you break glass on that window, as long as there's a little bit on there, you'll still see a reticle, whereas you can't with the, if you crack the glass with an aim point.


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[Assistant] Do you have a normal, or maybe it's different now, but where would you, what distance would you zero your non-magnified optics, whether it was neotech or any point?


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[Assistant] There was a video going around for a while of a gentleman named Sean Ryan who was a


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[Assistant] And basically from what he was explaining was everything from 36 out to 300, or maybe it was 500, I think it was 300. If it's within that circle, you're gonna hit it.


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[Assistant] I'm here for some parallel. Converged, my brain doesn't work quick enough.


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[Assistant] Did you see this, uh, EOTech coffee cup that brought me yesterday? I did, I like that one. You see, see where it, when you pour the hot coffee in there, the reticle, it lights up. Just like real life. And you got the green one, that's gotta be super rare.


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[Assistant] Not as many. Jay, do you know our buddy Aaron Hampton?


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[Assistant] I heard about him. I heard about him. Range Rover Casanova. Yea, yea. Uh, Big Pimpin. Yea. Big Hamp. Uh, Black and Mild. Um, uh, what else? What else? We got 51 Cent. I think they called him as well. Um, yea.


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[Assistant] Thanks for the hangover stuff. I wish you'd send some earplugs next time. Uh, thank you, uh, for the fella who sent the leopard sling. So if this doesn't go on,


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[Assistant] My rifle, I'm sure it'll go on Jay's. And they sent us some, uh, what is this? I can't see without my glasses here. This is some straight bourbon whiskey. Manifest Whiskey Project. And gin.


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[Assistant] So, thank you. We'll probably get after that in a few minutes. And you guys, this wonderful LED sign.


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[Assistant] Well let me ask you, you say heritage, how do you view EOTech?


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[Assistant] Yes sir. So, oh, where is, where is yours? Is it on your desk? Oh, we got these mags also. Math magician, rocket scientist, and all these. What did yours say? Drone, something drone.


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[Assistant] Drone Ranger. Oh yeaah, that's cool. Well, uh, so for you young cloners, you weren't even born when EOTech came out. Like, how's it, how's EOTech viewed?


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[Assistant] Did you know when they told the story yesterday, so when they evaluated all these other optics and stuff as a result of that, that


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[Assistant] Well man, that's where, you know, I hadn't paid attention to the story, I knew EOTech had been sold, and I didn't know it, I didn't know what was going on exactly until you told me yesterday. And that's so exciting for me, also being someone who's been on both sides of that corporate thing.


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[Assistant] Well, if you're putting lasers in there too, I mean, just the cost of building one, I mean, just component wise has to be expensive. I can understand it way better today than I did two days ago.


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[Assistant] It is so amazing when, you know, just the ignorance and I'm not trying to call everyone stupid, but the ignorance of if, if you've never done it and you think, Oh, well you can buy, uh, you know, whatever someone that would try to compete with you.


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[Assistant] Just does something different, but it looks similar and they rip it off. They're not doing the R and D but understanding when you're


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[Assistant] Putting new technology, or even existing technology, but into small arms so you're having to put it in a different envelope and do all the things that are critical for that.


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[Assistant] Like, what it actually takes. I mean, I can't imagine. I don't know how many employees we have now, but...


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[Assistant] Um, it's a small percentage that are engineers and it's probably two thirds of Adam's headache, you know, dealing with that. I mean, but it's such a critical part of the business if you want to be innovative.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the shit that you go through to do it that people don't even realize just because this looks like something else. We are on the outside.


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[Assistant] As time's gone on, I understand that a lot of what I did without knowing it was product management because


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[Assistant] Yeah, you got the engineers and it's like, I'll tell Ethan who I think is one of the best engineers in our industry, but like he can't pick a product that anybody's going to want. Like he just can't, he doesn't understand it.


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[Assistant] But yeah, with EOTech or any of these companies, it's a tough one, you know, being at SIG and being at Remington.


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[Assistant] Like who drives what you produce and who can understand.


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[Assistant] When engineers are like too far off the reservation and they want to do something that nobody's going to want, even though it'll be super cool. Who cares? And then.


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[Assistant] And then I would sales or product management.


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[Assistant] I do not respect and I don't like when guys just...


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[Assistant] All they do is key in on what your competitors are doing and we have to fill that. And I've fallen victim to that a lot. Myself doing it, well, just being so competitive and wanting to crush others.


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[Assistant] And there is a balance, like sometimes you want to compete in this space where there are, you know, there's a market for it and your competitors are, you know, have the market share. And then sometimes it just doesn't make any sense for you to do that. And it doesn't support the mission of trying to be innovative and do those things.


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[Assistant] And the balance sounds like you guys are in a spot where we are. It's like the balance of production and maintaining.


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[Assistant] And I saw that with voodoo with some stuff you showed me. You guys have great products, which we've endorsed that five to 25 is an awesome product. But like I said yesterday,


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[Assistant] For me, for my use case most of the time, like I don't go.


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[Assistant] Like I just, I don't really do it. It's not my thing. I love doing it, but it's not really my thing currently.


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[Assistant] And if I've got that kind of time, I want to go hunt or prep for a hunt.


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[Assistant] Like I want to go below five power if I'm on hunt. Right.


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[Assistant] And you know, you guys did something incredible with the size of that scope, but if that were in a two to 20 or a one and a half to 17 or whatever it could be, Oh, that would be an awesome hunting product.


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[Assistant] No, but if you guys think it is and it is, I mean, cause you know the ramifications, I mean, with every asshole in the world having social media and stuff now, you get called out. I mean, look at the lawsuit with the thermal drips.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm very ignorant to optics. Uhm, but I, I shoot enough to know what I like and features are important to me. And the way I view, you know, the one to six from you guys is there's five or six, four or five in the market that are really good. That to me, honestly, I like them all. So if you, whatever you get, those are good. And that's the way I view y'alls one to six.


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[Assistant] The 5-25 to me is kind of a class in and of itself.


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[Assistant] I love the clicks. I love the turrets. I love the glass. The size when we started looking at it, you know, we compared it yesterday to some others like that top rail.


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[Assistant] Being able to on an AR 10 or a shorter gun, being able to have that optic with 25 magnification and still being able to put something in line in front of it.


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[Assistant] Incredible. So when you showed me some of the new products yesterday, it's along the lines of that five to 25 where, oh shit, I will take my Swarovski off my hunting gun to have.


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[Assistant] But, you know, it's not a tremendous size, but it's weight, and it's got the features that I want, and that power range is great for me. But that scope, what Colin Sayers stated, that scope is $3,400. Like who the fuck can afford that?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean even that Z8i, which is like my favorite compact scope right now, but it's really not very short.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but it is lightweight, the glass is great, they do a terrific job with the dot, better than just about anybody I believe.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Their turret system is good, which, you know, them designing for strictly hunting or commercial use other than a military bias, they do things like the turret that I showed you yesterday. Their turret is a super cool system for the average guy. Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] The finish does, compared to this, does look like airsoft.


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[Assistant] Vortex has done a tremendous job. I will give a shout out to them for that. The way their scopes look, like the finish, the detail. But I always say with Vortex, like I put it in the category


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[Assistant] Uh, like their 1-6 to your 1-6 and I would use the voodoo 1-6 because I think the vortex is too heavy.


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[Assistant] Most all the other features of it, I like fine and aesthetically it looks good. A lot of attention to detail. Their industrial design I think is very good.


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[Assistant] You can engineer lightweight and durable. Heavy does not necessarily mean durable. You know, it was interesting that CEO of Taurus did the podcast and shout out to Brett. Cool guy, young guy. And he made a couple of very interesting observations on the podcast. To him,


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[Assistant] Like, uh, you know, you know, in Taurus, he knows their place in the market. He's got things to overcome. They've had some real innovative products. The last couple of years, they got a little nine millimeter. That's cool. Their new little 22 pistol is my favorite. I don't care. And he did give me the pistol, but it's 300 bucks. Like I don't even give me a $300 fucking pistol.


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[Assistant] But he did. I didn't even know about it. And I swear to God, I like it more than my hammerling. It's a striker fired 16 round magazine. It's awesome.


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[Assistant] So if you want a 22-silence, uh, pistol pistol silencer on, get that, what was it? The T-TX Tactical or something?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it's a fixer. So, but 16 round mag, it's a striker fire, the trigger is phenomenal. So actually Olivier, who used to work at FN, who did some of their pistols, he's their engineer.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but what he said was ridiculous to him, which he is understanding, is like a firearm is the only consumer product someone purchases and they expect it to last their lifetime. Right. Like you think if you have a phone for three years, you feel like, uh,


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[Assistant] You feel slighted by it. You know, nobody wants a car for five years. Your laptop, you gotta get a new one every two years.


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[Assistant] But like, oh, my gun. Oh, I bought a honey badger five years ago and you've updated the stock. I want you to give me a new one.


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[Assistant] Like, uh, yeah, shut up. And so with optics, it is a hard thing. It's like, I think we're supposed, our consumers, we just haven't done a good job of educating them. They believe that we're supposed to future-proof every product for 50 fucking years. It's stupid. I mean, don't you want us to continue to innovate?


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[Assistant] Aaron Hampton's 1996 Rolls Royce. If you take it in and you want them to put the current engine and interior in your car.


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[Assistant] But you imagine, like I thought about that the other day when someone was giving me shit about wanting like our latest stock for a gun they bought in 2018. And it's like, well, what if I took my


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[Assistant] It just seems douchey now. He totally invalidated everything. He's gonna go get one. No, no, I won't, but like if no one would ever see me drive it or whatever, I would go get one because like I love the car and it's super, it's super cool. Oh, the new Corvette. I hate to admit it is such a great looking car.


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[Assistant] I mean, and I've got EOTechs on guns that are probably 15 years old. And, you know, I just don't change it because it seems unnecessary.


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[Assistant] Oh, yeah. For the new trigger, literally the best trigger ever made. So, so go ahead and tell your idea.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Well, I'm thankful too. I mean, you know, us fighting for gun rights and finally getting an organization full of asshole attorneys.


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[Assistant] Like, we as a company, just like EOTech or any other reputable company, we want to follow government regulations and guidelines and laws.


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[Assistant] But they also need to be reasonable and in check and in line with our constitution. And so shout out to FPC and especially our homie Adam Kraut for taking them to task. Like you, you want to start some bullshit like, okay, well let's just make sure that there's some checks and balances for you as well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, he probably can never get wealthy being an attorney because he's too nice and too good of a guy.


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[Assistant] I mean, it is cool. I mean, whether it's you guys giving optics for our mystery shirt winners,


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[Assistant] That's just great for the industry and especially this FPC stuff, like the fight against, like after the arm brace stuff and the way they went after us. And you know what, it just sucks. They just decided they would screw with us on the arm brace. And it's a bunch of, you know, government officials, it cost them nothing. But you know, it could put,


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[Assistant] Production for six months. So that could have caused us to lay people off. And then all of a sudden they're like, oh well, nevermind.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's, it shouldn't be allowed. Like, like, you know, if you want to shut down production of our products based on you think something might not fit your guidelines and you shut it down for six months and then you, then you call nevermind six months later, like they owe us money.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't want to lay people off and send them home and for them not to have accountability with that is horrible. So shout out to FPC. If you want to support a group that is defending your rights and trying to hold them accountable and because, you know, I'm not friends with anybody that is looking to skirt


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[Assistant] Uh, gun laws or ATF regulations. But you know, often times it's just like not clear and how do you get an answer?


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[Assistant] And you know, they put you in a situation like, thank God we had the cash to, to have attorneys to defend it and to go the six months while they were, you know, whatever they were doing, having us in limbo, not allowing us to ship guns that we could float, you know, payroll and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, a common cause, like, I even hate getting political, like, whatever. But, you know, obviously...


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[Assistant] You know, the idea of coming up with ways to infringe or, you know, from a firearms company standpoint, it's like a privilege.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but, you know, for us being a company that wants to follow their guidelines, and often times it's impossible to get an answer to a question from them, but they can come in and shut you down. And it just doesn't seem very American.


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[Assistant] It's like, okay, we've decided we have these laws and regulations.


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[Assistant] You issue us a license. We want to supply legal products to people who are legally allowed to possess them.


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[Assistant] And not everything is black and white, so we have a question for you. Fucking answer it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think they lost their way just like wounded warrior for me. It was a great example. Like you use that name.


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[Assistant] And there is no red-blooded American that does not want to support our soldiers, does not want to support anyone that sacrifices like that, and heaven forbid you come back injured, you have a disability for the rest of your life, you know. We all want to do that.


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[Assistant] But when it turns into a big organization, you got people at the top making millions of dollars.


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[Assistant] It, I mean, more times than not, it's just easy to lose your way. And that's for like us supporting SOCF, which is a great organization for special operations. Uhm, that no one involved takes a single penny. It's a hundred percent pass through.


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[Assistant] And, and not that there's not people that can enhance those organizations and get a paycheck, but it's always, and I think, you know, that's what NRA turned into. And so it's great to see


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[Assistant] Not willing to take the ATF to task.


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[Assistant] You know, of course us as a company that is licensed by them, we want to have a relationship with them.


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[Assistant] But you know, it's also like your kids, like sometimes you gotta spank that ass.


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[Assistant] And keep them in line. And it's hard. That's why I hate regulatory in our country.


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[Assistant] It's like a way to circumvent the checks and balances of our government, and I don't, I don't like that. Because you can have great intentions, like EPA. You know, none of us want the oceans to be poisoned or any of that shit, but


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[Assistant] It's gotta be realistic. You've gotta understand it.


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[Assistant] It should, their goals should align.


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[Assistant] With who they're serving, which are civilians and the masses and the people of this country.


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[Assistant] You know, it shouldn't be a government go around to prosecute people that they deem as not worthy or uhm,


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[Assistant] How do you join the army? What happens? Cause you know, for me, I figured you'd be like the next host on, um, you know, American bandstand or something.


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[Assistant] Oh they got a six dollar bounty on them right now. I'm going on a hunt. It was never that expensive back then. They have a six dollar bounty right now and they're trying to kill 400,000 a year and I'm going on a hunt down there. I cannot wait. Trust me, it is not a hunt.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they brought Nutri-an, um, just, uh, as a source for fur originally. And then, uh, fur kinda went out of fashion in the 80s and those, the population has exploded and they're destroying the marsh. So I think it looks like, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess that'd do the same. Yeah. Cause they can have like 10.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, being thrown out two years later. And it's like, what, what did I really like about it? Cause you know, like when you're young and you're poor, you dream, Oh, if I have money. And then, you know, you make some money.


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[Assistant] And it's, well, it's not really the thing you love. It's like I know now and I say it all the time. I love product. I love innovation.


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[Assistant] You know, and I love not being walked out the front door of my own place. But it's pretty simple. But the team aspect.


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[Assistant] It's important to me, you know, whether it be marketing or it's engineering or whatever part of the company.


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[Assistant] So now being older, more mature, I embrace it and I know that's mandatory, but in a selfish way.


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[Assistant] We have to grow the company in that way. You're growing or dying. We have to grow production to fund the stuff that I selfishly like, which is innovation.


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[Assistant] I think, and seeing that come forward in this company, because it's always a thing, I believe, you know, you look up to your idols, and to me it was Reed and I, and it was H and K, within our industry, and it's, well,


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[Assistant] I want to do these things. Well, fuck, I'm not that smarter. I'm not that good. Well, I have to have a team. And I think it is one way.


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[Assistant] Now, like a second time, been more successful than the average guys. I think I'm more open to understanding.


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[Assistant] I don't like that, I don't want to do that stuff, but I have to have a team to do it.


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[Assistant] Right. And so same thing with the Army. So when I met you, you go, so you're recruiting. How do you end up the AMU? Like in charge of those guys? What happens?


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[Assistant] So for people that don't know, so the army actively recruits some of the best shooters in the world. So it's for the Olympics, it's for all kinds of games, Pan Am games, like whatever.


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[Assistant] And you want the best shooters and they have a full time staff of machinists, gunsmiths.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah. And uhm, teaches everyone how to read wind, you know, and so just the best shooters in the world. What a cool place.


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[Assistant] And so, what does this do? This puts you in charge of the AMU in what capacity?


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[Assistant] It was because you tried to do too much. Tried to do too much. Wasn't in control enough. Big corporate. That's after we sold.


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[Assistant] I gotta get better at my job. But, but yeah, man.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this wasn't just big army. I mean, I know some of your guys were training like the very itty bitty tip of the spear.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and there's a whole bunch of others, uh, that can shoot. I mean, you know, the video of the fixed rifle.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, that Tyler Payne did where like he shoots the thing that launches the clay pigeon with the fixed rifle and then chambers another round, shoots the clay pigeon out of the air. Like what the hell? And that's just like a Tuesday for him.


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[Assistant] Because yeaah, who was Robbie's partner, St. John? St. John, Jason St. John. Yeaah, so they, what was the sniper competition?


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[Assistant] International Sniper Comp, so you'd have foreign militaries and government agencies, U.S., like the most elite guys. Yea, you had the best.


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[Assistant] But compared to the, you know, the very tip of the spear and they're coming in second and third to the army marksmanship unit team for a sniper competition. Ooh, yeah. There's some stuff you can learn like every year.


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[Assistant] I think it is a curse of being great at something, being the leader.


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[Assistant] You know, for me the other day, somebody at Q just said something like, Oh my God, you know, the company is growing. We're doing these things and.


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[Assistant] Like they get promoted and they're in charge of a group of people at our company and they're like,


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[Assistant] You know, I haven't gotten to do, you know, XYZ, the thing that they love that the people underneath them are doing.


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[Assistant] In two years. And I'm like, motherfucker, I haven't done the thing I love to do in 28 years. Like, that's just part of it.


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[Assistant] You know, and sometimes I mean that that's a curse. I mean, I remember when Daniel really wanted to.


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[Assistant] Uh, going to combat, I want to go to selection, I want to move up and...


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[Assistant] Within the army to a special operations group.


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[Assistant] And he's just, he was too valuable for what he was. So it doesn't matter what you want. Do you think some of that happened when Pat Tillman was killed? When he left the NFL and came in and it was very high profile that, you know, like, uh, uh, I mean, what a great American story. This kid grows up in California. He's a great patriot.


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[Assistant] He's a stud athlete, he works hard, he ends up in the NFL, multi-million dollar contract, 9-11 happens and, you know, he hears the call of like patriotism, quits the NFL.


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[Assistant] Leaves the NFL at least, joins the army, ends up in Ranger Battalion I think with his brother.


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[Assistant] And like what a horrific story in some regards for the army. Sure. Because, oh, we've got this celebrity in this, you know, like what a great story for the army. Someone's in the NFL, like so many kids dreams and decides to leave that after nine 11 to go defend his country and then he's killed in combat. Right.


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[Assistant] Well, it came out later. The army obviously didn't handle it correctly, but I just wondered how much that changed. Like you get these individuals and it's a different, it's a different


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[Assistant] You know, it's a different circumstance with Daniel Horner. He didn't go in the NFL and wasn't on TV every Sunday and all that. But you know, he's the best shooter in the world. And we, you know, we use him as a recruiting tool. So we can't send him into combat.


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[Assistant] No, I think in some ways it's, you know, selfishly it's unfortunate for them, but it is probably the right call.


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[Assistant] It's hard to come to terms with that. I mean, I think, you know, for them,


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[Assistant] Unfortunately, you know, they're great at what they do. And we know the guys in these tier one, like really elite assets.


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[Assistant] They were an awesome time and it was a way to connect part of the industry and it was a big party for me and just the way that I do business in general, but they were great.


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[Assistant] Yes, so you retire from there, you start doing consulting.


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[Assistant] So these were tools, yeaah, designed for military, had some gun specific stuff on them. Yep. So, didn't you do something for Benchmade?


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[Assistant] But fuck everyone. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is. And, you know, in starting Q or any of these other things, it's like, if I say if you don't like your product from us and it doesn't, you know, meet some sort of like whatever company policy we have for a refund or a replacement,


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[Assistant] I'll buy your shit back personally. How many have you bought back? Zero.


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[Assistant] But, you know, I also do it with starting the company. I was fortunate and maybe dumb enough with you, like with advanced armament.


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[Assistant] I felt passionately about silencers the first time I shot one.


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[Assistant] And that was really my course and I knew it and everything I had to put into it, which wasn't a lot. We grew it organically, but then I couldn't get funding. I couldn't get financing, so it had to be organic.


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[Assistant] And, but I should have taken it in hindsight because we could have grown things faster and there would probably be no SilencerCo or any of these other companies would have dominated the market.


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[Assistant] But I did the course that I did and I thought like selling to Remington, making silencers mainstream was the right move. And in hindsight, I think to some degree it was. I think Remington and Surefire really made silencers mainstream and that wouldn't have happened without me selling to them. And you needed to do that to be here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and like I wanted to prove to myself I could work for a big company.


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[Assistant] Didn't work, didn't work out. And then I tried again with SIG and only worked at SIG part time. But again, it just didn't work out. Like I was just not able to squish myself into their mold.


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[Assistant] And, greatest thing that could have happened, because I can't envision, like, I was very happy at Advanced Armament, but I didn't understand part of it, and then...


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[Assistant] There were a lot of stresses that weren't necessary, so now with maturity, you know, just wisdom, being older.


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[Assistant] And having that experience, I know how much I love Q and how fortunate I am with Q and how great Q is. And not, it has nothing to do with me here, but what it has to do with, and you know, like any of the haters.


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[Assistant] Uh, I understand, like number one, I don't need your fucking approval and I don't care. Number two, I do this selfishly.


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[Assistant] And I'm fully aware and comfortable with that. But number three, it benefits everyone. Like I want to push innovation. I want the product. I want it more than I want money. And not to say that I'm willing to live to be poor. Like I have a very comfortable life and it's fine with me. I don't want to be the biggest gun company in the world. I don't care about being the richest guy.


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[Assistant] I want to develop product that gets me excited to get up in the morning.


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[Assistant] Because at 35 I was in a position where I had no purpose to work for money. Like, I had all the money I could ever dream of. And I had like three little kids and...


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[Assistant] Like, what do you do? You're 35. All your friends work. I didn't grow up rich. I don't know what you do with money. And so it's like, okay, well now I just take my kids to school every day and pick them up and I'll work some. And what's the reason? I remember my kid's mom at the time asking me when I sold the company, which I


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[Assistant] Before and the next day she's like


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[Assistant] She didn't even understand that I still was going to work. She's like, why in the world would you still work?


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[Assistant] I was like, well, what the fuck am I supposed to do? Like just, like, I'm not taking the nanny's jobs. Like, I'm just going to fix breakfast, take the kids to school. And in her mind, I understand, I think that's like most people. But for me, it was like, now is go time. Now we have the resources to do all these great things I couldn't have done. And that's an exciting thing about Q because


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[Assistant] I fell in love with silencers as a teenager. I started that, but you know, always like me loving HK, Knight's armament. I want to do guns. I want to do this. And, and I don't want to have my own weapon system to stamp my name on it and for the legacy of it. And I think in some degree that's sort of what's happening.


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[Assistant] But it's only because I find niches that I think need to be exploited. I think the bolt gun was one, like we started with the chassis back then, you and Robbie, way ahead of your time, doing the tac mod stock.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so meaning, you know, you got the grip, you got all the stuff like that.


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[Assistant] And accuracy international had a chassis, but it was part of their bolt gun design, but it didn't really replicate anything with the AR, but it started a trend and it showed something that was necessary.


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[Assistant] When, when, when it's different and people don't understand it, they attack you. And, you know, but that's probably something where you and I have always connected, having the confidence and understanding.


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[Assistant] You might not get it now, but I'm looking around the corner like you said earlier.


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[Assistant] And the fix was just an evolution of the chassis thing. Once you guys did the chassis, and then we did the MSR rifle at Remington, and whatever chassis it was, whether it was a TacMod, it ends up being the, uh, Rax chassis from Remington, which is a Kydex product.


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[Assistant] That's a song lyric I've ever heard one time.


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[Assistant] It's some of the big learning la- best, I mean, I think I learned it with Remington, I learned it with SIG, and it makes me comfortable with where I am now, but without those things happening, and for- ever since then, when, when that happened, I'm like Remington. At the time, they owned us, and


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[Assistant] Uh, an action and chassis separate.


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[Assistant] Like it used to be, but over time, not getting to do it then, Remington being too stubborn and too greedy to listen.


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[Assistant] We didn't do it at Remington. SIG was the same way and SIG was really a handgun company and Ron, it was tough for him to buy off on it. But over time, then we realized, like, why do we need a separate action? And this is how the fix was born. So, you know, this is based on all those experiences and


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[Assistant] And I think this did change the bolt gun game. And for me, it's not, again, I never want to do something just to be different, but it's like, okay, where are these niches within the industry that there is


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[Assistant] And I don't think in the terms of like Eugene Stoner or John Browning where


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[Assistant] Can develop something totally new, but I am good at improving stuff, and I think that's what you guys were doing, and I think that's what the fix got.


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[Assistant] And I'm not sure if we'll do another bolt gun. Like I would love to do a straight pull version.


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[Assistant] But gas guns and you know, I think it's the thing like my passion for small arms and the enjoyment that I get out of it is worth more to me than the money in my personal life. Like it's cool to have this house and stuff and it's cool.


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[Assistant] You know, I learned this too, probably about the same time as we're talking about the TacMod stock in Remington. I was with a friend of mine and I had sold the company and he had a lot of money. And he was homegrown too. And he lived a normal life and you would never know he was worth tens of millions of dollars at the time. And he had earned it himself.


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[Assistant] And I was looking for a new car, so I got a Lexus ISF, which wasn't super expensive, but it was.


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[Assistant] And I was looking at a Mercedes AMG thing and uhm, we drove by the Mercedes dealership near where we lived and I was riding with him. We went to lunch together, talked about, we did some real estate investing and stuff at the time.


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[Assistant] And uh, we're in his suburban and the dude, he's one, he at the time, one of the wealthiest people I knew.


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[Assistant] And I was still, I thought frugal within my own means because like, if I can't pay cash for it and if I don't mind losing the money, then I'm not going to buy it. And it seemed reasonable.


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[Assistant] But he's like, well that's cool. He's like, if I was your age maybe I'd do it. But he says, you know what's really cool?


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[Assistant] And he just turns onto the highway right in front of it. And, you know, that set, you know, it still sticks with me. You know, now 15 years later, him just, him just saying like, yeah, that's cool. Go get your car. But really cool at my age, knowing I could buy the whole dealership.


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[Assistant] And you know, there is a comfort in that, but what I find is that I love this stuff. And so when you showed me stuff yesterday, like some of the new optics you guys are doing and the new bleepity bleep bleep.


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[Assistant] I'm like, holy fuck, I love this because I love innovation and that's separate from my love from fucking Aaron Hampton. It's like...


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[Assistant] I don't give a shit. You and I are cool. You could work at TASCO. Like, okay, we're cool. I would not.


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[Assistant] I cannot wait. I seriously thought about how can I steal it and you guys not know.


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[Assistant] Uh, but, but that changes something for me in a practical sense, not for me to say, Oh, I got the latest greatest. I'm so fucking cool, but this changes stuff. It gives me another slight advantage over what I've got now.


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[Assistant] You have the holographic sites, which are great, but haven't seen a lot of innovation there the last few years. And now seeing that you guys can do different reticles.


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[Assistant] And that's exciting because that separates like Vortex, great company, Wilpole's a great company, Swarovski's a great company, and they all have their strong points. But to me, some of the stuff I saw,


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[Assistant] Unless they come by and show me some new stuff they're working on. Like they got some catching up to do here pretty soon. Awesome.


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[Assistant] Oh man, I can't wait. Wayne Weber's come and do the podcast and he was the president of H&K USA for a long time.


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[Assistant] And, you know, during the time that, you know, HK was really, in my opinion, on the commercial market just declining.


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[Assistant] You know, it's probably a combination of the things, but what a tough spot to be in. It's definitely a combo. So FN thing was just, that wasn't your cup of tea.


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[Assistant] Wait, there's another song lyric, Jay. You could, you could bounce that fucking base to that. Wash your mouth out with Buckshot.


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[Assistant] You know, it is, it is. And I think everyone says that and the only ever I think the real way to know is.


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[Assistant] See, I just, that is such a disconnect for me. I don't understand. And I know it has to be true, but I don't want to believe it. Cause I don't understand it and I want to stay driven.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, I think if I joined the army as a teenager, it would probably be a different story. Agreed. And just like had I gone to engineering school, it would probably be a different story.


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[Assistant] No, I love, but the passions there, the understanding of product and wanting to push it forward. That's the key. But I'm all about it, but man, thank you for coming out. I can't wait to next level and you get something better than a Rolex watch. And hopefully that'll be after shot show. Jay, I'm glad you made it back. Stop staying up late chasing hoes and get here more often.


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[Assistant] Well firstly hi to whoever's uh, whoever's listening. I hope that wherever you are in the world you're uhm, you're feeling positive and


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[Assistant] Whether you're working out, whether you're at work today, or whether with your family, or just driving to the grocery store, uhm, yeaah, sending you guys some positivity. Uhm, I am, yeaah, naturally I've, it's still today hard to believe how


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[Assistant] How fortunate I've been in my life, you know, obviously to start in a council estate and be where I am today. I was just standing on the balcony at home, uhm, just yesterday with one of my best friends, has been my best friend since I was 10.


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[Assistant] That is like, wow. It's a long way from where we grew up.


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[Assistant] And so for that split second, we had this kind of silence, but also we were able to enjoy it. Uhm, so yeah, definitely it's, it's, it's been a whirlwind. It's crazy to think, I mean, geez, I'm, I'm in my 12th season of Formula One, or this would be the end of my 12th, yeah, my 12th season this year, I think.


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[Assistant] And I am just on the way to signing a new contract and it's...


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[Assistant] It's just crazy how quick life goes as we all know. I always wanted to be a racing driver. I never thought, I hadn't even for a split second thought about all the other things that would happen. The other things that would come with it. You know, I do remember talking to, uh,


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[Assistant] One of the races that I was racing with years ago and we were like, hey, how cool it'd be if one day we had a boat. How cool it'd be one day if we had jet skis and get to travel the world and all those kind of things. Just, you know, just as kids talk crazy stuff. And not that I have a boat, but travel and do those things.


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[Assistant] I really do truly believe that somehow you can manifest certain things that you either envision or you dream almost everything that I've envisioned has


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[Assistant] Come to light. Apart from like going to space and being Superman or like, I literally


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[Assistant] I dreamt of, I was like, uhm, for example, I naturally wanted to be a 4-1 driver. I was like, that's what I want to do. My, my, my view of it never


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[Assistant] It was never a part of, you know, from 5 years old, there was never like, oh actually I want to be a football player or actually I want to be a tennis player or, it was just always 100% racing. I want to be in Form 1. And I never lost sight of it and that's where I got to.


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[Assistant] I firstly had dreamt of going there. I got to go there. And then when I got there, I saw it and I was like, wow, this is where I want to live one day. I live there. I always wanted to design my own fashion label and do something with a top brand and I just put my focus on trying to get myself in position to be able to do so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, well, I mean, naturally, for me personally, nothing has come, everything, racing is everything for me, so everything has spurred from that, naturally. But, you know, when you get to Form 1, there's a lot of, there's a lot of whispers around you that the racing, or there's a,


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[Assistant] Racing drivers or you can be, you can't be anything else, you know, and you can be whatever you want to be and you can be as many things as you want to be, uhm, it depends how much time you have and how much focus you want to give it, but uhm, but the fact is there are, I mean, I think we all have talents in lots and lots of different things, it's about discovering them.


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[Assistant] I mean, I was very, very lucky to discover mine when I was five. You know, I know that doesn't happen for many people. People maybe don't find their true talent until later.


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[Assistant] It might be that their parents weren't in the position or weren't open minded enough maybe to


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[Assistant] Suggested something or you've dibbled in something, but you've not stayed with it, you know, like I, for example, I, I always wanted to play the piano, but I had one lesson with this classical teacher. The woman was like 80 years old and I nearly fell asleep in the class and I stopped.


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[Assistant] I'll be grade 8, I'll be so good right now. So you know, it's just, it, it is talent and it's just really also focus. I think focus is the key.


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[Assistant] Geez if I, for me it was when I got into a relationship and it just so happened my relationship was with a woman that was in Los Angeles. So I don't know if I would have got to Los Angeles any


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[Assistant] Time in that period, if it hadn't been for that relationship, so, but going out to somewhere and experiencing something new and seeing a new world and, and meeting people from different walks of life, uh, actors and musicians and, uhm, and all sorts.


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[Assistant] And bit by bit, started to see more and then also started to expand your mind. So it's very easy when you grow up in a city or you...


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[Assistant] You sit at your desk and you're focused on one thing, you, you get tunnel vision and it's difficult sometimes, it's like you're like a horse with those blockers on, you know, and it's really trying, it's really trying to open your perspective and uhm, definitely as a kid I was tuned in to be in tunnel vision.


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[Assistant] Uh, the actual, yeaah, the relationship I started when I was 23. So, I mean, I really, I don't feel like I really started to grow till I was like in my mid-twenties.


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[Assistant] And prior to that it was just racing, racing, racing. Racing, racing, racing and...


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think I'd be a better, I think I'd potentially be, would've been better. Or maybe I would be the driver I am now, earlier. Maybe, you know, uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think if I'd, if I'd, I was a bit more open minded and more grown and more mature at a younger age, naturally I think I would have been in a better position.


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[Assistant] If I was, if I had the maturity of me as a 26 year old at 22.


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[Assistant] Definitely, even from even further back than 2006, I think you're never going to lose really who you are, especially when you've got your super close to your family who keep your feet on the ground and you've got your closest friends still.


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[Assistant] The one from the day you met, you did your first day at senior school, high school. Uhm, but, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I remember when I was 2006, I mean, I always had the confidence in what I was doing. I knew I had the ability and I knew I was going. So there was, in my mind, there was no...


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[Assistant] I was like a runaway train, I was, you can't stop it, you know? Like I knew where I was going and there was nothing, I truly believed there was nothing to get in my way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I had momentum at the time and, and yeah for sure, I mean I was signed by McLaren but I wasn't, every day was a worry that I could lose it.


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[Assistant] My dad and I, particularly my dad, would spend just hours and hours and hours and hours just


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[Assistant] Communicating with McLaren, just trying to make sure, are we doing everything you guys want us to do? Is there anything more we can do? Just trying to go over and above to make sure. Cause we have to be squeaky clean. You know, we're the only black family in the sport. It was by no means at all an easy route. Uh, we were very, very lucky that we got funding, which


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[Assistant] We had to make sure that every single person that we came in contact with via, uh, with your, your team, whether it's the sponsors, whatever it may be, they go back to the big boss and they're like, wow, these guys are switched on. These guys are the best people. They're so kind. And you know, just making sure.


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[Assistant] That you've left no stone unturned, so that when it comes to the day they say, so who should we put in the car? There's no question of doubt in the minds.


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[Assistant] Formula 1, uh, I would say Formula 1 is, well I mean, Formula 1 has given me a life, given me a purpose, which is pretty special. But Formula 1 has also broken me. It's broken me and it's built me and it's broken me and it's built me.


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[Assistant] Well, when you go through it, you put so much into it, it breaks your heart, it kills you when you fail, when you stumble, when everyone's watching when you stumble.


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[Assistant] And then when you get back up and you succeed, it lifts you up. So uhm, you fall and you break a bone and you heal and you keep going. And so.


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[Assistant] That's what I mean by, uh. It's the emotion of sport, I guess, isn't it? It is. The passion you have for what you do and the will to succeed is just something that I, I, it's hard to express, but I think, but everyone has it in some shape or form.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I can, I don't know if I can say that I love the highs and lows because the lows are the worst, uh, and I'm generally quite an emotional person so I would say there are athletes and drivers and just performers that


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[Assistant] Uh, a line that's oscillating up and down, up and down, up and down. There are, there are some, say that's an emotional line, there are some that have higher ups and downs. It's off the charts and some of them are more balanced. I would say probably the best performers like Serena, like Muhammad Ali, theirs is more


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[Assistant] But if you can then learn to breathe and calm that squealy oscillation line in the motion, you can then focus a lot better. I guess it's almost the same as if you're shooting at a target, but you're moving around. If you can breathe and calm it down, you're much more a target.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think Formula One has, as I said, it's given me, it's helped me grow. I've gained a lot more confidence, uhm, within myself.


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[Assistant] What it's given me is a platform to be able to do things that I want to do, live a life that I could have only dreamed of. But it's also given me an opportunity to work with, like, big, huge teams of people, big companies, travel around the world, see different cultures.


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[Assistant] Dibble and dabble in different lingos. Try food, different foods.


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[Assistant] I've not been to Bulgaria, for example, just randomly. I've not been to Serbia. I've not been to Iceland. I've not been to the Antarctica.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of places I've still not been to. But I think I've really tried to steer clear of doing them all as well because there is a life beyond racing and I don't want to have done everything, you know. I remember the first time I traveled to Italy and I remember landing and driving and everything just seemed so alien.


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[Assistant] Because everywhere I go, I've often been to already, and you've lost that. It's like when you drive a 4-1 car for the first time, that first feeling, it's never gonna be the same.


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[Assistant] It's, it's like when you kiss a woman for the first time, it's never the same. It's always different. Not that it's worse or anything, it's just different. And I think I would like to hope that one day when I stop racing and I go and take family somewhere, it's an, I get that feeling back in a new place that I've not been in. I'm venturing out an experience. That's why I'm really, really


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[Assistant] I'm trying to keep as many places as possible.


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[Assistant] Just since I was a kid, I've, literally since I was a baby, if I wasn't moving forwards, I just feel like I'm standing still and uhm, almost dying. You know, so.


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[Assistant] There's some of this stuff you're doing.


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[Assistant] I haven't known what I know now when I have, if I'm fortunate enough to have a family and have kids one day.


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[Assistant] Geez, I'm just going to spread out all these different, you know, instruments and, and, uhm.


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[Assistant] I think I'm going to be a fun loving father, but I'm just going to, I want them to speak as many languages as they can. I want them to, to have an open mind from very early on, you know, and, uh.


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[Assistant] It is a bad opportunity and, no, we did the best we could with what we had, for sure, but I just, but just right now I'm just trying to, as I said, I, as I get older and, you know, having people pass away, you realise the, the, how fragile we are and how, uhm,


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[Assistant] How precious life is, and all of us, me, everyone, we take so much stuff for granted, everything in our daily lives, you get in a car and you drive somewhere, it's just a...


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[Assistant] Just another means of travel, but what's gone into...


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[Assistant] Getting the fuel, you know, extracting the fuel from all those different things. I just think it's just about... I just wanna...


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[Assistant] Whenever my time's up, I want to be at the, I like to imagine the pearly gates and I'll be like...


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[Assistant] I didn't get through everything that I wanted to do, but I, jeez, I gave it a good shot and I got through most. And so yeaah, there's just...


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[Assistant] I'm trying to learn things, I'm trying to, you know, I'm challenging myself. So for example, I did my diving test because I love the ocean and I'm fascinated by sea life.


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[Assistant] And so, but the challenge of doing the test was something that I, because as a kid I'm dyslexic, I struggled at school, so challenging my mind, learning new things, surpassing certain tests, I love doing risky stuff.


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[Assistant] Even if there's a bit of pain sometimes in it, I just love that thrill factor. So that's never going to change.


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[Assistant] Bungee jumping with your skydiving with your doing these great things which I know not everyone gets to do and when I posted that video


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[Assistant] I look at it and I'm like, there are a lot of people that won't, that currently don't have the opportunity to do those things. But when I've posted things like,


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[Assistant] Whether I've been flying private or something, it was never ever to put it in someone's face. It's really just show you what's possible. I grew up in Stevenage in a cancel state. I grew up living on my dad's couch. It's just, if anything, it was really, really to try to show you that it is possible. But I think in today's society, people want everything now.


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[Assistant] And it took 20 bloody years to get there. But uhm, it's really just a show.


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[Assistant] Look, I'm in a different place in my life. I'm in Form 1. Yes, I have money. I might have a much different platform to lead myself from. But I tell you what, I'm not just going to sit and squander my money or sit around and do nothing. I want to keep moving. I want to meet new people. I want to learn new things.


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[Assistant] I mean, you go to most doctors today and they actually don't really know what's healthy, food-wise. They don't, they're taught the old way.


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[Assistant] For example, milk is supposed to be good for you, but it's not good for you. You know, there's scientifically proven new methods now of things you should eat. I mean, I'm on a plant-based diet, but I didn't learn that until I'm 32 years old. And I see footage of


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[Assistant] What Sea World is doing to animals. I see things that are happening, whether I'm diving, whether I'm seeing footage on TV, on documentaries of what's happening to our oceans. I saw a picture of a seagull, it was a seagull stuck in a plastic bag yesterday and it was horrible and luckily the photographer


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[Assistant] Oh wait, I mean plastic is a massive thing. So for example, when I'm, right now I'm trying to convince my, like when I'm in an engineering meeting with my team, there's 20 or 30 people in the room and everyone's got a plastic bottle. There's no reason why they can't have a cardboard carton of water. So I'm trying to convince my team to move that direction.


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[Assistant] Pete Bonnington, if you're listening. Yeaah. No, it's Toto. Toto's the boss. So just, you know, uh, when I'm designing, for example, when I'm designing my clothesline, I'm using eco, I'm pushing Tommy to use eco-friendly, uh, products, fabrics.


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[Assistant] And this is the first time they've actually had to do it. So now they're all their normal, uhm, companies that you go to, to, to give them fabrics. They're now having to discover new ones if they can't do it. So now they're also...


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[Assistant] Moving in a different direction and my goal is eventually my, hopefully by my third or my last collection out of four.


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[Assistant] It'll be 100% eco-friendly, you know, and just all these different things. One of my friends is an NBA player and I've just been talking to him about my experiences being on a plant-based diet. He's like, you know what, I've been thinking, I think I'm thinking about doing it for a season.


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[Assistant] You know, and who knows, maybe he'll do something. And he'll encourage another person, whether it's two or three people, which could be kind of cool. So you kind of, each bit by bit.


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[Assistant] Dropping a purple in a pond and creating ripples. I wanna create as many ripples as possible.


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[Assistant] So I've always been very, uhm, I've always been very artsy, but I was definitely shy away from it. I was very shy about it as a kid. I used to draw on all my walls, I was quite good at art as a kid.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. We didn't really say too much. I was kind of a stay out of my room kind of guy. Don't go in my room. But, uh, yeaah.


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[Assistant] The thing with kids, kids today and everyone, there's a creative side in all of us. It's just tapping into it.


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[Assistant] Not being shy away. I remember as a kid, some teachers saying you're not good at something, you know, talking you down and then you're like, okay, I'll give that up and I'll do something different. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] They did. No, definitely, definitely did. My racing teachers say, you know, parents from other drivers would come over to me and say, oh, you just don't have it, you know, you're not good enough, you're not going to make it. Like grown adults of our age and older


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[Assistant] It definitely knocked me back a little bit. Uhm, definitely, particularly the one, the men that were very overbearing, you know, like forceful with it. And my teachers, my teachers particularly, when they talked me down, that hurt a lot.


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[Assistant] I had, I had a couple of, oh, I struggled at school. As I said, I was dyslexic, I struggled like hell, uhm, in maths, uhm, I was always behind.


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[Assistant] Can you remember his name? Nah, he doesn't deserve to have his name be known. Uhm, I get back, because he didn't agree to me taking the time off and didn't support me in the, when I go back on Monday, he's like, oh, you took Friday off, you're in detention for the day.


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[Assistant] For the whole day I'd sit outside of his office, which was a narrow corridor and looking at the wall.


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[Assistant] I was deprived of schooling, so then I, when I did do, and then I got there on, and then Tuesday I get to school and you don't have your homework in, so I got detention, so I was just constantly in trouble.


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[Assistant] And then I'd had, luckily McLaren helped me try to get a private tutor so I'd have that before and after school. So as a kid, that period of time was the worst. The best part was when I get to go and drive.


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[Assistant] But all the other stuff, I wasn't out with my friends because I was doing the extra lesson that I was doing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're in the car, traveling around the country. Uhm, and then we obviously then when we got to teenage, to 12, 13, I was traveling to, I was getting on flights to travel to Italy and back and, and then.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I like to think that he's probably watching TV and he's like, oh, I helped him get there. I bet you any money. He probably tells everyone in the pub. That's the kind of asshole he was, so imagine the...


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[Assistant] Yeah, so fashion is just, so it just goes back to as a kid I was massively, uhm, like every kid watching TV I was watching, I was massively into music. My dad was in a band so I was naturally encouraged to be involved in music and he was always playing great music. So I'd watch


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[Assistant] VH1, MTV, I was hooked on those shows and then I'd see these.


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[Assistant] At the time it was like Tupac, it was Biggie, uh, Aaliyah used to wear some great stuff, uh, there was Usher, there was, um, geez, there was Jodeci, there's so many artists. And anyways, so I wanted to do art, my dad forced me to do something else, I think it was history or something like that, which I...


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[Assistant] I wasn't interested in at the time, and uhm,


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[Assistant] And anyways, I, uh, it wasn't until I got, uh, yeaah, when I got to Form 1 and I started to discover my creative side and really start to explore and


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[Assistant] Uh, all these different processes. When I go to the fashion shows, I see, uhm, I see these fashion shows come together and it's for eight minutes.


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[Assistant] So much work goes in. When I see the designer, I'll be like, hey, what inspired you to choose this material and use this ending? Why? I wanna know why. So, just taking note and learning as much as I could.


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[Assistant] It is, yeaah, definitely. And it's a really great, it's a world that I really enjoy going in because each time also it's a competition you turn up and you want to make sure that you...


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[Assistant] Look the part, you know, there's going to be so many people dressed at their best and you want to make sure that you fit in and also that you're accepted and, um, acknowledged. And anyways, and then I've come to this opportunity with Tommy.


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[Assistant] He says, we should do something together. I was like, okay, when you talk about doing a capture collection, I really want to design it.


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[Assistant] Getting books, I was looking online, I did a tonne of research, uhm, when I turned up to the showroom for the first design meeting, I had a bag full of clothes, I was like, hey, I really like this fabric, this is one of my favourite pieces, can we do something like this, uhm, I'm inspired by this artist, that artist, that designer, this, that, and bought them all in,


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so proud. Uhm, and then my next collection will be better because I've learned through that one process we can do it much faster next time and I'll be better and I'm growing, so, yeaah.


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[Assistant] So I grew up with dogs my whole life. Uh, no, I grew up with Labradors. So my first dog was a Labrador. He's my best friend till I was eight and it was the saddest day when he died. And...


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[Assistant] Like I remember that like it was yesterday. Uh, as you know, as you do, you get so connected. But this dog was just, this dog was an angel. Like I would walk, that was in a time in the, in the eighties, late eighties, I walked to school, which was,


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[Assistant] Not massively far, you walk through the back alley and you go down the field and the school's there or you walk down the, around the corner. This dog would walk alongside me without leash, would just follow me.


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[Assistant] It was like, it really was my guy, and then I'd say go home, when I got, back then you didn't have to have your dogs on the lead, I'd say go home, and he would go and probably do his own thing, he'd probably go and he had a few girlfriends along the way, you know, but I'd get home and he was there. It was really weird. His name was Goldie.


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[Assistant] He was a strange dog, and he would always be by my bedside. He was just my guardian angel. He was really, really crazy.


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[Assistant] And I already had the name, I was like, I'm gonna call my dog Roscoe. Just now I have to find him and I found a picture of this.


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[Assistant] So he has auditions for different, uhm, he'll go up against like 10, 15 different bulldogs, they'll need a bulldog for a product, and they, they...


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[Assistant] He gets paid like, I think he's on like six or seven hundred dollars a day. It's ridiculous.


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[Assistant] And he loves it, and then he gets his treats, and he just loves it. So, it's cool that they choose him. Cause he, I mean, he really is a good, he's a handsome boy. For a bulldog, you know, cause they're all, bless them, they don't realize that, ugly bless them, faces all squashed.


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[Assistant] It is true. Uhm, the reason for it is I had to get him snipped because he was, uhm, poor guy. He would wake up randomly and just fricking ejaculate everywhere. Just poor guy. And he did, and he was, he would get scared. He didn't know what happened. It's so funny. But he was,


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[Assistant] It was bad because it was everywhere. So I had to get, you had to get the snip and I was like, yeah, but I can't have, I can't not breed this boy. He's got, he's such a handsome and he's got the kindest heart.


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[Assistant] So uhm, so yeaah, I'm a resident so at some stage we'll get some puppies. So probably when I, once I retire from racing and I settle down in a family, I'm definitely going to get more Roscos.


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[Assistant] Like everyone, I see that at some stage. I never grew up dreaming of that. I've got some people I grew up dreaming of having that. I haven't. Uhm, I always said that I would have kids when I was like, when I'm 28, I'm going to have a kid.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because of the lifestyle that I choose currently to have, of course I can decide to change it and have kids now if I wanted to, but I don't want to. I like, I like what I'm doing at the moment. Also I have so many projects and I just wouldn't currently have time. And it's just not the right time for me. Plus I've not met anybody really that, uh, that's gonna...


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[Assistant] That I'm gonna do that with, so, uh, but I'm kind of like, wait till I'm 40 plus, maybe 44.


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[Assistant] I've got friends who are 40, I've got a friend that's 44 and he's still single. He did have kids though when he was younger, so they're older now in their 20s. But I'm gonna wait.


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[Assistant] I think that's impossible for me to say. I currently believe not, but uhm, naturally in getting older you notice things like,


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[Assistant] When I was a kid, I never thought about when you break your leg and you can't race. I didn't really think about those different things. That's why I'm conscious about those things more so now. But I still do them. You still do them? I still do them. I still go and do a backflip on a snowboard. But I definitely think about


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[Assistant] The actual movement now, and I'm not as bounce-proof as I was when I was 18.


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[Assistant] No, uh, no, definitely not. I just think it's, I would just say it's got better, my attitude to risk in a sense that it's more controlled, it's more, uhm,


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[Assistant] More calculated risk. I'm able to calculate it more now. As well as a kid it was just pure adrenaline and pure balls. You know?


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[Assistant] It's where now I've still got that, but I've also got the mental side. I'm stronger in my mind than ever before, so now I can control it. It's like, I guess it's almost like you can relate to a movie with a force. He has the force with him, but doesn't know how to utilize it, but I've got the force with me, but now I can control it.


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[Assistant] If someone's listening right now, maybe they're at the desk and they're so tunnel visioned into what they're doing. There are other hobbies and things that they like doing, but they've not had time for it for example, but you've got to make time for certain things. But what I've found is that these different things that I do are just stimulating my mind.


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[Assistant] And for example, if I stay at home, if I, if I spend this week just training twice a day, not doing a thing, you know, sacrificing everything and not doing the things that I also that I like, skip them, get to the next race, physically might be in a better shape, but I'm actually miserable.


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[Assistant] And if I do all the things, if you see my schedule, I'm travelling here and there, I've got these meetings, I've got these different projects that I'm working on. I get to interact and my mind is being challenged all the time. I arrive at the next race, maybe I don't have...


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[Assistant] Maybe I have slightly less energy, but mentally I'm buzzing and that is more powerful than


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[Assistant] Having all the rest you can possibly want, you know? So, I've literally tried it. I've been at home, done this training, turned up and just had a basic weekend. And I've been and done all these other things and I've tried it multiple times and I've turned up much, much better in better form.


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[Assistant] The priority is, yeaah, keeping your mind stimulated and challenged and you're learning new things and it's, that's why I don't want to move, I don't want to stop, I can't wait, I'm going, I'm going.


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[Assistant] I'm going here this weekend and I'm going there on Monday and then I'm traveling. I've got all these different things and different, uh, and also like I've got a photo shoot for example on I think Wednesday, Tuesday and Wednesday or something like that.


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[Assistant] No, I don't really feel self-conscious. What I do is, I remember when I was younger, I just went in and didn't know what I was doing and they took the worst shots. And I didn't know that I could say anything. So now I know what I want and I speak up.


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[Assistant] You have to make time for things and, for example, every morning when I, uhm, every morning when I have breakfast before I eat, I pray. Every time I eat, actually, I pray. So I get to fit that, whether it's


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[Assistant] Couple of seconds, whether it's hot, you know, a minute or whatever that you're praying for. Just take that moment. Everyone else is talking and keeping it. I say, sorry, one second. You just make you, you make the time.


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[Assistant] And like Sunday for example, this Sunday I can't wait, I've got, I'm going to church on Sunday. Wake up, get to church and I've got meetings afterwards. And uhm, I go with a couple of my close friends. We meet, we go for breakfast and then we go to church together.


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[Assistant] And we leave feel, most often feeling, uh, enlightened and, uh, empowered.


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[Assistant] And it's like, it's like a re-centering. It's really, really often, sometimes you leave and you're like, uh, I didn't get that today. But most of the time you leave and you're like, wow, I feel I know where I'm going. And you have to go to a church to


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[Assistant] No, I mean my, for example, the church I go to is actually a, uh, uh, it's a beaten down cinema. It's actually a cinema.


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[Assistant] Churches are often beautiful, but can be boring, but this one just happens to be actually a church in a cinema. So, but you don't have to go to church. I don't get to go all the time because it's, we race on Sundays, so I don't get to go all the time, but sometimes I watch online.


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[Assistant] There's being strict and there's sometimes just being unethical in some things. I just, I fit it in my life. I feel comfortable with my relationship with God and it's, it's really about also giving thanks and we all have these different things. You have your family and beautiful family in your life and people in your life and who'd you give thanks to? You can give thanks to within yourself or to


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[Assistant] Maybe a parent that passed, or whether it may be, you just communicate. Sometimes I talk to my auntie, who passed away, and try to send her a message. Hey, auntie, I hope you're well. Please keep your eye over my cousin's going through a difficult time right now. Uhm, guide me and...


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[Assistant] Uh, somehow let me know if there's something that I can do to be there. So it's just about, you know, just connecting with yourself, taking a moment with yourself to acknowledge God and the great creations and things that are around you and are happening to you, good or bad. And also sometimes I pray before every race, just ask for


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[Assistant] All I'll ever ask is for everyone to be safe and to free me to be as the best I can be.


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[Assistant] I know if I'm the best I can be, I'll be everyone. That's what I truly believe, so.


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[Assistant] You don't have time to pray. But the thing is, you know that I've, I've...


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[Assistant] Anything can happen any day, but I feel that God's got his hand over me, so. Kind of what we'll be, we'll be. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think you're just bracing. But still, nothing's a given and there's no, there's nothing that's written that says that I'm gonna live to 100 years old.


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[Assistant] There's nothing saying that I'm gonna live to see my next birthday. So tell you what, I'm gonna make sure I get everything in between now and the next day and just...


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[Assistant] No, I would say Formula One is worth dying for. Your passion and your dream and your ambition and your...


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[Assistant] Your, your goals, I think, can be worth dying for.


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[Assistant] You know, affecting someone's life in a positive, getting someone through, you know, I've had people come up to me or run after me whenever.


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[Assistant] I went to this, uhm, uh, musical one time and this woman ran after me and she's like, oh my god, I just wanted to tell you that you got, you know, I was, I was, in 2007 I was going through cancer and chemo.


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[Assistant] And you got me through it and I'm like, how? She's like, well, just every weekend I saw you get on, get in that car and the way you drove and the way you spoke, I connected with you and I was powering through it with you and I was like, wow, I had no idea. And she was standing there.


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[Assistant] Six, uh, seven years later or whatever and she's like, I got through it. I couldn't have got it through without you.


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[Assistant] It's hard to grasp that and to imagine what she was going through but she grabbed onto something and that was maybe this little young kid that's come from nowhere but facing adversity but somehow fighting through it. She somehow put those together.


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[Assistant] So that's definitely worth fighting for. That's definitely worth dying for. That's definitely worth, if you can touch one kid and put them on course for their potential, that's definitely worth fighting for.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I don't know. I know you've got so much to do, but... You know, honestly, I really... I really, uhm...


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[Assistant] I see these greats that I consider still greats.


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[Assistant] They don't know that I consider them greats. Some of the ex-world champions that walk around and I look at them and I appreciate them so much and they don't, they won't know but, but people just walk in by them and I'm like, they don't even realise that dude there was, won this Grand Prix, he won that, he was like,


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[Assistant] He was the head of the game at one point, you know, and, but it's the same in other sports as well. So when I think about when I, when I stop, hopefully when I decide to stop.


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[Assistant] I think people just get so comfortable and used to you. I don't want people to be walking by me, forgetting what I've done. You know, so what I kind of, but also I have these other things, so I want to step away from it.


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[Assistant] And, but then when I do come back, it means something, you know what I mean? It's like the kid that's, a young kid that's come up is like, oh my god, that's, that's the ex champion, you know, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] I like, I think to myself, like if I have a family, if I had a family now, my kid's gonna wanna be a racing driver. I don't personally want my kid to be a racing driver.


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[Assistant] If they want to eventually be a racing driver, that's one thing, but I don't want to encourage it. I want to give them tools and help their character grow and blossom and them to be comfortable in their own.


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[Assistant] And who they want to be and choose a way. But I don't want it to be, uhm,


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[Assistant] I don't want it to be forced by the fact that they're around that.


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[Assistant] So you know what I mean? So I'm excited about breaking away and being something completely different, separate from that world. To the point that they're almost at school and their parents don't even know that I've, what I've done and achieved. I'm doing something different.


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[Assistant] But I definitely don't want to be around it forever, but when I, I do want to revisit it to be fresh, you know what I mean? Back to this whole thing of when you travel to a country and you've been there, you've done something so many times it becomes a norm and you lose that appreciation for it.


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[Assistant] Not just within yourself, from so many people. How do you round that team up? How do you rally them and get them, uh, how do you get that army to fight to the bone to help you win that championship? That's a super challenge in itself.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah, but it's, you know, how do you keep your engineers motivated, you know, and hopefully right now they can see, I know my engineers can see my motivation and, uh,


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[Assistant] Hopefully they're inspired, you know, they, they're inspired by the way I drive and then they, they work towards it to give me, they know if they give me the car and put it, allow me to put it in a certain place, it's gonna be magical, you know? Constantly keep inspired, that's, that's a challenge for all of us.


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[Assistant] Lois, thank you. Pleasure man, it's great.


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[Assistant] And thought, you know, uhm, do you think with the cultures like that, we would see it


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[Assistant] Really pick up in the hunting side of things as far as like states looking at for deer and I know I live in Indiana and uh.


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[Assistant] We've started accepting rifle cartridges in the last couple years and maybe with something like that where


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[Assistant] The range would, it seemed like they were always concerned with the higher velocity cartridges, you know, and.


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[Assistant] And then it moved to the bottleneck, but I almost feel like maybe the cream or the, you know, that round.


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[Assistant] Could open the door to even more states looking at it and maybe is that something you guys thought would, uh, help push that?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like that idea because I know a lot of states are starting to.


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[Assistant] Lean towards that because like I said, Indiana didn't before, then they started introducing cartridges with


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[Assistant] Certain overall length limits and then a branch down to basically full bottleneck cartridges.


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[Assistant] No, uh, just hoping the popularity keeps growing and, uh.


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[Assistant] Couple, couple days ago y'all posted a picture.


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[Assistant] I think it was Kevin sitting in front of a full body mount chamois, and I just wanted to know the story behind that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was probably November 2018. It's a great country, cool place.


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[Assistant] So here Mr Knight, what do you think about the future? Well, um,


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[Assistant] It's wild, dude. Like, it really is wild. Like, stars and quasars. Uhm, it's just like,


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[Assistant] Everything, like, we talked about, like, what's happened in our life with, with the internet or, you know, different things, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] We really are about to experience probably the biggest shift and change in manufacturing and engineering that probably has happened since the industrial revolution. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] If not more, you know, in a good way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean you figure, like in our lifetime, pretty much CNC machines have, you know, came about in computer, computer aided, you know, drawing and uhm, and engineering.


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[Assistant] That's all about to go wild. You know, it's about to like make this crazy shift and it's like,


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[Assistant] All the engineers and all the ways that we've always built things are about to be completely obsolete.


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[Assistant] You know, and it's like, but we're still going to be building the same stuff. Like, do I really see it like, you know, like you said, or like, I'm not, I'm not going to go that far into the future. You know, I'm still as far as.


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[Assistant] What we're kinda talking about here is what I'm still talking about. Kinetic energy guns, things that launch bullets, you know what I mean? And, you know, we talked, we mentioned when we went on the case telescope talk a bit, talking about Stoner, and uhm,


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[Assistant] That really should have been the, should be the future. I'll straight up say it. I think that that's my biggest problem with all.


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[Assistant] With the NGSAR and stuff like that is that they're not changing the case, they're not changing the bullet enough. Yea, it's a polymer case, it's this, it's that, but they're not making enough of a change in a cartridge case to make a full next step in a firearm, okay? Uhm.


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[Assistant] And I think that especially, yeah, especially anything that's vehicle mounted or drone, any, you know, by vehicle, I mean the mobile platform.


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[Assistant] Which mobile platforms we already know a drone, they got drones that are this big or up to whatever size. So mobile, mobile moving objects or stationary objects should be


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, and of course the, the sighting devices, you heard about that shot that they had in Israel where they, they shot that, uh, I think it was Iranian nuclear, uh, physicist or something from like,


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[Assistant] I don't know how far away, but he was in a moving car and they fricking shot him with a...


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[Assistant] You know, with a, uh, probably a 50 cal or something like that. It was all, uh, all done over fricking, you know, I think there's a 1.4 second delay in just the communication network. So that gives you an idea of how calculated that shot had to be. And the guy was in a moving car. I think that the gun itself was stationary, but you know.


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[Assistant] The idea that a guy has to sit behind this thing anymore, we're not far away from that not being a thing. Of course, do I still think that guys are going to walk around with guns? Absolutely, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] So yeah, but I guess what I'm trying to say is, is like the idea of trying to adapt this gun to those platforms is kind of silly. The gun should probably be specifically built for that type of a environment. And I don't think that we're thinking about that enough with kind of some of the, some of these changes that we're making. Um, but let's go back to like just


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[Assistant] Not just the gun itself and how it's gonna look or how a device that launches a bullet is gonna, you know, work or whatever, but uhm, how stuff is designed and made, right?


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[Assistant] Like, well first of all, additive manufacturing is...


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[Assistant] About to completely wreck everything man. You know what I mean? Like the idea that


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[Assistant] My entire, my, you know, KC, my dad's entire shop is full of machines that are potentially going to be obsolete in like 10 years. You know what I mean? You know, so it's like everything is going to be potentially built that way. You know, you're not going to machine anything. That's something I've never thought about.


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[Assistant] It's kind of like, you know, like if you talk to pilots, like a dude trying to go transition from flying a fixed wing aircraft to a, to a rotary, to a helicopter, you know what I mean? It's like those mindsets are so completely different. It doesn't really translate like that.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm trying to say is we really haven't experienced this generation of engineers that only think about an additive type thought process.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I'm like, I always go back to the Michelangelo everything, you know, it's all in this block of aluminum. I just have to remove the parts that are, you know what I mean? It's like, that's just how your, how my brain, you know, works, whether it's an art piece or a gun part or whatever, you know, that's just how I've always thought about it. But when you start to think about it the other way,