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[Assistant] Some pretty close racing with Chase, uhm, but also it just wasn't enough. Jet was still able to, you know, put that behind him and just keep pushing and keep pushing forward and just inching away. I mean right now I just don't see anybody, anybody beating him without a, without a major mistake to be honest.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, it's tough, you know, because as a fan, as a fan, as an X racer, as a fan, uhm, you do want to see those, those, those tight knit battles and, and, and, and, you know, swapping of race wins and overalls and, and going to the next weekend, who's going to end up on top.


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[Assistant] You know, in scenarios like that. But right now, it's a bit of a reach for the rest of the guys. You know, as I was expecting. I know we had Justin Barsha back here at Unidilla. You know, I was hoping to see him back up front. He got banged.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, with a first turn pile up, you know, bruh, something happened with the hydraulic clutch, so they ended up cutting that off. And then as you know, Unidil is, it's, it's, if you're, I think he was 2 or 3 from the outside gate, uhm, for Moto 2, right? So,


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[Assistant] Really hard, really hard place to come from a recovery standpoint to be back up front, but.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens, you know, I-I-


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[Assistant] Personally, I'd like to see another perfect season. There's only two of you guys out there. I think that's...


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[Assistant] We've seen it time again this year, bike failures. I know the 450 class, they don't have too many bike failures, but lights, we have bike failures, we have crashes, we have all these things that come into play. And to have that consistency and mental capacity to keep coming back on the weekend is pretty, it's very impressive.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think he's winning because he's the best guy on the track right now. And, and I think to go back and, and it's, that's always a tough question to, to answer is like, well, what, what about last year when Eli was at his prime before he got hurt and outdoors beat Chase? Um, you know, and Chase was able to beat Eli and, and, and, you know, it was a little bit of a closer race now.


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[Assistant] Do I think, I, I do think that Eli is the type of guy that would, that could rise to the occasion or rise to that, uhm, to the level of speed that, that jet is running. Yeah. Uhm, I don't think, you know, like first moto going back watching Unidilla, right?


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[Assistant] Chase was able to start inching up on, uhm, Jett and put himself in that position to where, uhm, we watched, watched both of them, you know, kind of, uh, hit each other a little bit in one of the turns. Nobody's real fault. Jett talked about it.


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[Assistant] So my point is, is Chase was able to inch up on to, to Jet. So, if you put Eli out there,


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[Assistant] Is it Jett and Eli and Chase is the third wheel? Or are all three of them involved? I personally think that if Eli was present in this outdoor season, uhm, I-


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[Assistant] There's less gimmies. If I was a betting man, I wouldn't say 2022 would happen if Eli was involved. I just, I think he's, uhm, I think Eli is...


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[Assistant] Is a little bit better at pushing those limits can, can ride out of his comfort zone better than Chase and I think would be able to bridge that gap because Chase honestly isn't that far off guys. He's pretty close. It's little mistakes here. It's bad starts. It's


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[Assistant] It's Jett just creeping away. He can't bridge that gap. It's not like we're talking a huge, huge difference between the two.


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[Assistant] So I honestly think it might be a different scenario, not that Jett wouldn't win the championship for this year's Outdoors over Eli, but I think we'd have closer, uh, we'd have some moto swaps for sure.


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[Assistant] I, I, I agree. I do. I think, you know, watching that and it's, it's a bummer to say like, it's always a, it seems like it's always a front end issue or he's always losing the front. And I don't, uhm, to me,


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[Assistant] I mean, he's gone through that turn 20 other times and then the 21st time he comes through and maybe he had to change his line because I did hear that he was talking about Lapper kind of maybe being in the preferred line, uhm, and came in there. To me it looked like he came in just a little too hot, uhm, and, you know,


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[Assistant] Front wheel ended up somewhere where he didn't want to just, I mean, we're talking with, you know.


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[Assistant] Throws your body positioning off. You lose the front. You weren't ready for it. Or, you know, there's a thousand things that could happen. But I don't see that happening from Eli. I just think his...


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[Assistant] A veteran and the guy still got the speed. So I think that.


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[Assistant] You know, looking back when Chase was able to bridge that gap, they hit, hit, just hit each other. Right there was, in my eyes, a pivotal moment because you knew that you just caught him. You know, maybe it was a mistake from Jett, one or two corners or whatever throughout the lap and that's why you made, made up that time. But you were able to inch up on him. Right there.


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[Assistant] That's when Jett goes on defense, you would think, right? Like he's like, dude he's right there, heart rate spikes a little bit, I gotta make something happen, I gotta pull back away. But Jett just stayed doing exactly what he was doing, didn't get excited, but if you watch, like,


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[Assistant] Chase wasn't able to regroup after that and bridge that gap again. He just bridged it before and then that happened and then it was kind of over after that. So I think that's what Chase needs to really try to figure out is how to crack Jett.


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[Assistant] I have a, I have a perfect story for that, that you bring that up. Uhm, it was 2007, I was at PC, Ben Townley was at PC, Ben Townley had started working with Elden and yourself.


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[Assistant] And we raced, I mean Pro Circuit only lost one Moto that year to Josh Grant, uhm, at Factor Connection. I think it was High Point Moto 1 or Moto 2. Uhm, and we won every other, uhm, you know, race wins and overalls and Moto wins after, you know, from that point on.


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[Assistant] But, Millville, we came out and I, me and Ben had raced so hard that entire year, uhm, that weekend I couldn't figure out where he was faster than I was. So I actually picked uhm, tracks a little bit different but kind of where, uh, Hunter went down and what pushed the front over before that single.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I went wide and let him, let him, let Ben go by, but I had to figure out what he was doing because I felt like I was going as fast as I could go, um, taking great lines and I couldn't break him. I couldn't pull away. So I put myself out there and was like, okay, I'm going to.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go, I'm going all in. I'm gonna go wide, I let him by, and followed him. I can learn some things where he was going, where I wasn't going, and things like that, so. See, I love that.


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[Assistant] I remember, I remember when I let him by, like jumping in back behind him, that then he wasn't going that fast.


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[Assistant] And I don't know if I just had really bad lines or was maybe making the track too long. Uhm, you know, because I tended to do that a lot is ride a lot of outside, just taking up too much track and making the track longer than it should be.


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[Assistant] I just remember getting behind him and I was like, I could follow him very easily then. A little less pressure. He wasn't breathing down my neck now. And not to mention, what is the, is the, what's going through?


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[Assistant] Uh, what's this guy doing out here on the outside and he lets me by and then jumps in behind and he just gave me the race, but he's all over me again. Like that's gotta play mind games also in inside of, you know, the inside of Ben's head or, or, or Reedys, you know, like what's this guy doing? You know, like why is he letting me by? You know, so.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I thought it was, uh, I, I, I think if Jet, if, if Jet were to let Chase by, I think Jet can follow Chase, he'll learn, and then he'll pass him back. I, I, that's what I would, that's what I would bet on.


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[Assistant] Like I wouldn't, I don't know if I would ever challenge that to a, to a situation with Dunge.


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[Assistant] And it's a 50-50 deal there because I could look at on one hand and be like, if I were to do that to Dunge, I think I would mentally break him because he'd be like, oh my gosh, what's happening? Like it would blow his world apart.


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[Assistant] But then on the other hand, I look at it as like, that's a risky move because if, if Dunge gets out front,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think he's gonna be a hard guy to pass. He's gonna run it down to the checkered flag. Fitness isn't gonna be a problem. Uhm, he done just very good at hitting the same line every single time. Very consistent.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, so now you have to work around somebody that's not a roadblock. I don't want to say roadblock, but somebody that isn't all, you know, moving around the track where you maybe leave the inside open, may go outside here, may do this, may do that. It was, he would stick to it.


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[Assistant] His program and stick to his lines for those 30 minute motos and that's what also almost made it harder because he didn't leave anything open. He didn't leave any, any carrot for you anywhere.


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[Assistant] We gotta go back and we gotta look at Supercross. Uhm, his Supercross season wasn't, wasn't stellar at all.


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[Assistant] Um, and we know that's what a lot of, that's where a lot of the eyes are. Um, is Supercross also outdoors, but yes, I think it does help him secure something, especially with these last three rounds. Like he's struggled for sure. It's a new motorcycle, but from what we saw at Unidilla, you know, we're watching the replay right here.


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[Assistant] If he can keep doing that these next three rounds is, as you know Ricky, like if you haven't been up front and ran that pace in a while, like that's a, that's a big ask. You know, sometimes your arms get, you know, tightened up, your breathing's not normal because you've been the last


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[Assistant] You know, eight rounds you've been riding around in fifth, sixth, seventh where, you know, and now the pace upfront is substantially different, you know, so.


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[Assistant] Let alone working on the motorcycle, getting that better, putting himself in a good position and, and being able to run that, you know, if he can keep doing that these last three rounds, I think we, we see him get even better because he'll get a little more comfortable up there. Heart rate won't be so high. It won't be so unfamiliar to him.


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[Assistant] I, I agree with that and I'll use Christian Craig as an example. Back when he was on Star Racing, I mean literally, uhm, it didn't matter what set of whoops it was, didn't matter what, how big the run was, how big the whoops, how cupped out, he was phenomenal every time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, through every practice, every main event, every qualifier, he was, he was the guy to beat in the whoops.


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[Assistant] So my point is, by bringing that up, is now he's on a Husqvarna 450. Right. And he's still one of the better guys in the whoops. But you don't see that consistency like you used to. You say, okay, Christian Craig's gonna be the best in the whoops. Every single weekend on that Star Yamaha, it's a 250F.


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[Assistant] Now you go to the 450 class, different manufacturer, more weight, more horsepower, uhm, there's a lot of, there's a lot of things that come into play. Yes, is he still one of the better guys in the whoops? I, I think he is. But you don't see, he's not a standout like he was in the lights class. And I think to your point is, you know, uhm,


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[Assistant] In developing a new 452 like, like Star is with the new Yamaha.


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[Assistant] I do think they look for the perfect thing. I do think they say, well my 250F did this.


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[Assistant] It's not, it's, it's, you got way more weight, you got, there's way more, uh, bigger motor, bigger piston, all that weight moving around, uhm, it's, it's never gonna be the same and I think that's where you see the grates, that's where you can separate the grates from, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uhm, from the guys that are really good is, is if you can make that transition uhm, on the 450 and, and also


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[Assistant] But developing a new motorcycle, getting that on online, Eli's out, you know, so it's a one man band right now with the 450, uhm, you know, things like that. So I think there's a lot of things coming into play for him for sure.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, engine mounts, engine mounts kinda came into my head, you know, and that'd be interesting, like, he hasn't really specified what he's having issues with, you know, is it the front of the motorcycle, is it the rear of the motorcycle? Uhm, you know, and look, I, I don't have nothing against Dylan, but also too, I think,


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[Assistant] You know, from when he won his championship to today uhm, you know,


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[Assistant] I gotta bring up riding styles a little bit, body positioning, and just technique side of it, like, uhm, he reminds me of a, he's not as tall, but he reminds me of a, he's got a villaman style, a little bit of villaman in him.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, both French, you know, very similar, similar writing styles in my opinion. And now you see somebody like Jet and Chase where their form is just so perfect. Yeah, more polished. Does it take...


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[Assistant] Is it going to take or does it take Dylan more effort, um, you know, more energy, more, you know,


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know I look at Kevin Windham having great riding style. Chad Reed having, you know, pretty good riding style. Now it's even evolved more, like we got a lot more Euro influence over here now with standing up a lot. Uhm, riding the, standing up all the way through the turns and just different riding styles that, that I didn't do and neither did you.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right here pushing, you know, just devastated. No, it's a, it's a tough spot to be in, man.


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[Assistant] You know, working, especially as a rookie, working, you know, working his tail off, putting himself in good positions and then, and then to see this happen, you know, like I've, I've personally experienced this. I actually, I think right here at Unidilla, I put a hole in my radiator.


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[Assistant] Yep, I think it was the year with Ben. I think I had a hole in my radiator and I missed, I didn't race one of the Motos. Uhm, but then vice versa, Ben had something happen later also.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, so watching Deegan, you know, hate and fall, um, after the finish line here in the right hander.


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[Assistant] Just a struggle, struggle weekend for him, you know, total bummer. But it's, it's race and you know, I mean, same thing happened. We had the same conversation after Southwick when, when Hunter spiked, you know.


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[Assistant] You know, it hasn't been this, um, critical in the last, just in the last past few years where, um, you got a tights, you know, you got a point situation, you know, decent side points lead from Hunter, bike failure, now we're within,


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[Assistant] 8 points, then we, we see a red, uh, uh, the red plate change and now it's, we're tied and, and uhm, and now we have a, uh, you know, Hayden's bike, you know, throw the towel in.


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[Assistant] So it kind of reminds me of, of back, like I was saying back in 07, I lost a radiator there, Washougal, I think in 06.


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[Assistant] Um, I blew a motor up while leading the points there. So it's, it's, it's, it's an added, um, you know, it's, it's, it's something that is, the 450 class doesn't have, we just don't have this, that added, um, you know,


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[Assistant] Uh, problems that could happen with the 450 just because the bikes don't, don't break like the, the light spikes. So it's just an, it's another, uhm, as a racer, something you gotta always think about. You know, it's, it's interesting to see how it works. I, I, I like seeing it because it keeps it very interesting.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, he was on the gas modal one, you know, like, like, uh, you brought, you've said that, I've said that before, like, Levi, I like watching Levi because, um, reminds me of watching Kevin, Kevin race and ride and very similar styles, kind of light on the motorcycle, does, do the, do the, they do these little


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[Assistant] You know, jumping bumps and little things that, that uhm, you know, are really cool and interesting to see. But honestly, without really digging in to, to find out cause I'm not, you know, I'm not, I don't work with him.


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[Assistant] Need to figure out why he's inconsistent. What is it? Is it, is it the mental side of it? I mean, I know it's probably mental because when he shows up on like he did at Moto One, uhm, you know, he's, he's


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[Assistant] Hard to beat, like, you know, he ran away with, with that Moto 1, but then all of a sudden, you know, you get first gate pick for Moto 2 now because you just won the Moto 1 and, and we don't see the, you can't back up that performance. So my question is, is why can't he back that performance up? Uh, you know, I don't think it's necessarily


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[Assistant] Uhm, the work that he needs to, it's not like he needs to put more work in. Seems like all the star guys are fit, all the star guys are ready when they show up, so uhm.


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[Assistant] What is it? I, I don't, I don't know what it is. He needs to figure out how to get more consistent because that's the only thing that's holding him back out of this championship fight. He's got the speed. If he could be there every weekend, he would be the third, third or fourth guy in the mix of this championship with two rounds left.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, you don't know, going to a different team, they run the teams completely different, you know, uhm, completely different motorcycle. We know that platform is, is one of the best platforms that he's coming from. So that's gonna be the interesting part to see. Yeaah, that'll be interesting. You know, when he gets on the new, new motorcycle.


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[Assistant] I, I have said that in the past too, like Joe is definitely, um, you know, needs to figure out, and that's another thing, I think, is that another mental thing, is that something that he...


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[Assistant] That, uh, what does he need to work on? I don't really know, but man, the guy's got the speed, he puts himself up there. When he does, he runs great motos, he's smooth, he's efficient.


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[Assistant] Um, just, I don't know, mental side of it, I guess the mental game needs to get a little stronger so he's, he, you know, can show up every single weekend and, and, and put the, put it up on the box because that's what he's missing. He's got the speed.


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[Assistant] You know, you got two different, completely different riders in mentality standpoints. You know, Hunter a little bit older, more of a veteran. You have Hayden.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, the rookie willing to send it also on Unidilla, which there was only a few spots that were really, really, really ruddy where you really had to kind of pick and then point and shoot and hold it. You couldn't move around you.


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[Assistant] I think Hayden would have, would have hung it out. Cause honestly, being in that position, that was kind of a make or break position for Hayden. Hunter leading him.


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[Assistant] He needed to make, you know, make that pass also to make a statement, you know, we only have two rounds left. So it was kinda like, I guess he could have sat there and rode around in, you know, right behind him. But obviously we know, we know Hayden, we know, we know that that's not, that's not probably his mentality. His mentality is to get to the front.


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[Assistant] And go and, and put a, and make a statement, you know, for, for Hunter, but didn't happen. Didn't happen. That rookie.


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[Assistant] You know what, I like what he said, and look, everybody, to your point Ricky, you said this, uhm, multiple times, like we're trying to make stuff up, and the fans are like, oh, Hayden's saying this, and Hunter's saying that, and then she walks straight up to him and is like,


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[Assistant] So there's lots of talk about pressure. So she rolled the carpet out for him to say a very good answer, I think.


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[Assistant] I think a little bit of a smart ass answer, uhm, you know, because there's been a lot of that talk of what's it gonna take, what's it gonna take. And he's been quiet. He's been quiet about it. He's been quiet about it and after a day like that, even he said he goes 22 point lead and he goes, oh it sucks.


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[Assistant] Why? And, and that, that shows that, you know, I think, you know, ultimately I can tell you what I would have probably done. I would have been like, it's a bummer. I wouldn't have said it sucks because, you know, I'm looking at it from like, okay, now I can take a breather where,


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[Assistant] You can see it right on Hunter's face. He's like, no, let's bring this thing down to the end. Let's like.


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[Assistant] Pressure? Like, you know, like he can say all he wants to say and I'm going to show up every weekend and give it 100% and may the best man win. You know, I think that's what I liked about that statement was, is a little bit of a smart ass statement.


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[Assistant] Ended up on top. Some bike issues for Hayden. That's what happens. I've had mine in the past, but let's keep on going.


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[Assistant] That's your best finish, yeaah. That's your best finish for ha- for coming from Hayden, yeaah. Is to make major statement on these last two rounds, these last four motos. Uhm, and uh, and that way everybody would go back to the drawing board with their thinking cap on and be like, jeez, what would have happened?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I think, I think, as a, yes, I think his, his, his balloon was probably popped, you know, the, it was definitely deflated after, after Moto One and, and having a mechanical, you know, it's one thing to, to make a mistake on your own, but then to have the bike go out, which is,


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[Assistant] You know, it's not like they were trying, that's just what happened. It's racing. So, um, being that, that.


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[Assistant] The way Unidilla is in the start, it's a right-hander, number one, uhm, you know, you really, if you don't get the ma- if you do not have a control of the first turn, because a lot of guys can, you know, a lot of guys blow the first turn at Unidilla and they get off the track when they leave the entire insight open. Egan went off track.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's from the outside, there's pretty much zero chance at Unidilla that you're, it's like Bud's Creek also, like it's pretty much.


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[Assistant] Out of the question of getting a whole shot, I don't care what motorcycle you're on, uhm, and how fast it is, you know, because it's just so far. Yeah, yeah. I don't s- I didn't see where Hayden came out first lap, uhm, you know, position wise, but, you know, and then,


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[Assistant] Once you get that start, you make it through the first turn or first lap or whatever and it's just, yeaah, it's probably a, it's a very steep hill to climb in that position. Okay, Moto 1 doing great, bike blows up or goes out. Moto 2, now I'm on the outside, now I'm sitting 15th, now I gotta work my way forward.


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[Assistant] He probably, things weren't probably jiving like they, he would have liked them to. It was probably a tough race for him.


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[Assistant] You know, pro motocross, we know that your, your gait picks based off, off your, off your moto, first moto finish. And, and that comes down to, you know, if that was, I'm not saying it was or wasn't, whatever his, it was, the bike had a failure and it put him in that position. So as a, as a whole, as a rider, as a team, as I don't want you to.


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[Assistant] Gotta be, gotta be MXON for me. Yeah, yeah, you, uh, you- 2007.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, honestly, uhm, that was an amazing weekend. I mean, Buds Creek was wall to wall, you know, people.


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[Assistant] And uhm, yeaah, with the three of us, like I knew, like you said, going in, knew we had a good team, uhm, gave me the inside gate, cause of the 250, also give it, you know, Red Dog the inside gate, cause Red Dog wasn't the best starter.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, but good racer. So it was, it couldn't have had a better team, but like for me, I mean, honestly, like if I.


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[Assistant] Honestly, so we just got done racing outdoors and that were, that was, uh, outdoor series and mom and dad went, went home, um, back to Washington for I think like a week or something. So me and, and, and some of the boys had the house for free or, you know, um, alone, you know, so we,


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[Assistant] I did stupid things for about a week and my dad comes back home and my good friend Brandon Fulton was there with us.


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[Assistant] And then rode one day and came back, you know, cause we had just been, you know, really busting our butt all like everybody does, but towards the end of the season. So that one week off was like a huge deal. I felt like so much, I almost felt faster when I came back and I got one day or two days of riding in and then we flew, flew there.


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[Assistant] Honestly, everything was in slo-mo, it was literally like The Matrix if I had to put it, other than when one of the guys fell.


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[Assistant] Really nothing could have gone wrong. Everything went.


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[Assistant] I, no, nothing could have gone wrong. I don't, it's hard to say that, you know what I mean? But there's like everything I could just, oh, I'm going to go here. I'm going to pass this guy right here. This is how I'm going to do that. Like you could do, everything was just playing itself out right in front of you and you could make those decisions and, and, and speed to like.


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[Assistant] Exactly, like speed, it wasn't hard, I didn't get tired, I didn't get hot, it was fun.


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[Assistant] Mike was just working perfect, like I really couldn't do anything wrong that day. Uhm, and it was a bummer because BT had gotten hurt that morning too in practice or on Saturday here at his shoulder so he couldn't race. But that was the only guy we were missing from, you know, kind of the US side, you know, training with you and on my team and we raced so hard together.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, racing against Crowley and the rest of the guys.


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[Assistant] Looking back on it, there's actually a good movie called, I think it's called 60 Years in a Day, and it's based on, uhm, I think Troy Atomitis did it. It's based on 07, uhm, MXON. Really? Yeaah, 60 Years in a Day, I think is what it's called, and it's really good. It's like an hour long.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but no, I don't, that's a highlight. The highlight or one of the highlights of my career?


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[Assistant] That was a good story. It's one of my favorite races. I, to be honest, I loved racing at Buds Creek because it was here on my, on our home soil and that's the only time I've gotten to race MX1 here on our, on our soil. Uhm, but I've also gone three other times.


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[Assistant] A few times with you also, um, you know, other places, uh, in Europe, for example.


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[Assistant] Personally, I love going to racism in Europe. They have the upper hand, obviously, because we're on their soil. But as from, from an, from, as an American going, you get to go see all the history, all the, you know, just how they, how they run their program over there. It's, it's the first time you do it. I was six, 17 when the first time I did it and God, I felt like a fish out of water when you go.


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[Assistant] No, I didn't. That's when I got hurt, dude. Ivan, Ivan, Ivan stepped in. I was so bummed. That was for, uh, Farley Castle, right?


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[Assistant] But it was, yeah, I haven't stepped in for you, but it was my very first one and I'm a 17 year old kid going to Europe and I, I'd only been to Europe one other time for this same race, but on an 80. Oh really?


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[Assistant] Yeah, the Junior World Cup, yep. What was that at?


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[Assistant] I raised porcelain that one too, actually. Yeah, it was, uh, I forget.


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[Assistant] I forget, it was in Italy somewhere, I'd never been to Europe, I was like 13 years old and we'd go there and tracks in the middle of this whole, you know how they build these, they build the tracks in the most weird spots in Europe and partly because


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[Assistant] They've been there for like a hundred years, you know, like they just said, we're going to put one right there and it's still stuck around. And this one was just outside of a little town and, um, we got to go over there, but it was just, I really enjoy going to Europe just cause it's a lot of fun. Get to see a lot of people and, and major hardcore fan motorcycle fans.


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[Assistant] It was a close one. Yea, no, we, we, we ended up winning it, but it was, it was, it was close, man. It was, uhm, I think Stu fell in one of the motos and kinda like, I think hit his head a little bit, had his trouble starting to bike, uhm, but was able to get it back.


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[Assistant] No, there was a, there was a little, cause that was, that was Stefan's very last race. That's right. Um, there at, uh, at Madderley, I believe he, that was, he was done. He retired after Madderley Basin in 06. So, um, that was cool to see. I got to race with him too.


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[Assistant] I think let's let you guys pick, send us over, you know, a couple free man teams that you think and then we can dissect it and see where we go from there and see how off the wall you guys are or how correct you guys are.


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[Assistant] Ryan Villapoto, hopefully you guys are having a great day.


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[Assistant] RV, we're going to step right into it. Man, what a weekend from, uh, Spring Creek, Millville, whatever you want to call it. Uh, I call it Millville over, uh,


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[Assistant] over Spring Creek, but it was a lot of fun. And I think the biggest thing


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[Assistant] Get right into it, uh, Chase Sexton, just how fast he was, uh, I feel like other than Pala or Fox Raceway, that first national, this was really the, the,


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[Assistant] The most that, uhm, Jet Lawrence has been challenged, I believe, uh, all season since the first round. And, uh, we got some, we got some sound on, on, on Chase and where, where he's at. Cause I think that's most important and then we can kind of break it down. So let's hear what Chase has to say.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the crash basically on the first lap of the first moto and he got away with one. He got, dude, he got so lucky that that front end didn't catch more and take a bigger bite. Otherwise that thing would have high sided and perhaps been the end of, uh, end of his day for sure.


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[Assistant] Oh, and, and he was at the top of the berm and he grabs a handful and actually, Ryan, you know how it is too, that, like, that sand, even though it's, it's sandy, it has a hard base and he just got a little happy with the throttle.


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[Assistant] He loses the front end there. And so, uh, as we always do like to answer some questions, we're going to throw it in our analysis today. This one's from, uh, the racers edge and it kind of goes right into what I was wanting to know from URV. Uh, the racers edge asks, why does chase lose the front end? Technique, mental fatigue, or go for it. Why is he losing the front end?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it, uh, I, I think that he has great technique to back you up. Uh, yeah, I think their bikes are different. It could be anything. I don't think that everyone's going to share with RV and I what it might be. And RV, you know, I mean, dude,


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[Assistant] I, I wouldn't think that their suspension settings are the same. Uh, you know, maybe there's some clamp, clamp difference, steering angle. I mean, I don't know, is the gearing the same? Who knows? I mean, I mean, the linkage might be different. There's a million things that the riders can change.


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[Assistant] Uh, so yeah, I don't think it's technique. I, I personally feel unlike Supercross because there were so many times in Supercross where he was in the lead and it didn't look like he was riding over his head or riding that rivet.


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[Assistant] And, and he fell down, but I blame these this weekend a little more just on that speed.


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[Assistant] You know how it is. I mean, like when you're pushed to the limit, if you don't back it down or you're not comfortable riding that feet, uh, that speed, I believe that, you know, your, your chances and percentages of making a mistake and going down are so much higher. At least that's the way it was for me. You know, if I was racing Stu, if I was racing.


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[Assistant] Chad, and they were faster and I tried to go over my limit, 9 out of 10 times I would crash and I just feel like...


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[Assistant] As chase is learning this speed and to your point, he hasn't had that many gate drops and tried to figure out and race jet and see what jet is doing.


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[Assistant] He's probably gonna have these, these mistakes, but yeah, man, dude, you can't, he knows it. He's, he talked about it in the presser. You can't fall three times and be, and be, and be the guy like Jett.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Jett was giving it 120% or 100% for sure. He wasn't just toying with him. Uhm, and the reason that I think that is because you go last week when when Chase got close, he pulled away this weekend. This wasn't the case, so.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be interesting though. I think, uhm, I think that Jet's gonna have his hands full.


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[Assistant] Let's see here. It's a Tigo underscore 131.


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[Assistant] Is Chase Sexton actually considered faster if he rides so wild?


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[Assistant] That's right. Hey, uh, dude, we got, so, uh, all of our viewers and all of our listeners, thanks so much, uh, epic, epic questions. I will say, like,


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[Assistant] We had a ton, a ton of questions from you guys about the chase and Jett and which, which guys do we think is faster? And I feel like Jett has the upper hand, uh, right now. Uh, yes, chase is right there. You can just about thing near match him. Uh, but he's got to iron it out. I figure and he'll learn that pace.


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[Assistant] But before we switch gears and get some sound bites from Jet, I want, uh, I want to...


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[Assistant] I want to ask you this question and it's from, uh, seal underscore Oscar. Appreciate the question. Honest opinion. Tomac and Lawrence, full health. Who's winning?


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[Assistant] Oh my gosh, it'd be so epic, and I agree, no, I don't think that Jett would go, I don't think he'd go undefeated, uh, if Eli was, because, and this is why I think, I think that Eli, although he might not have the raw speed,


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[Assistant] Uh, that Jett has, but I just don't think that you are gonna get as many gifts from a guy like Eli, uh, than you would compare to a guy like Chase. And I'm not bagging on Chase. I think he's awesome. I think, uh, he is a generator.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, totally. So that's why, that's why I feel it would be great and you would, and Jet would have to be on. There would be no mulligans or gimmies.


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[Assistant] And he would have to perform because yeah, just the mistakes. I mean, Eli is much older, much experienced. He's won at all levels, multiple championships.


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[Assistant] I would give the advantage to Jet, but it would cert-, I think it'd go down to the last moto for sure, I believe.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. I mean, I go back to, so, we could just roleplay this. I hate roleplaying it, but.


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[Assistant] Just for argument's sake, cause this is our podcast and we like to, we like to talk about scenarios, you know, you, you eliminate that crash, which most likely Eli probably wouldn't have fell down and then he had good speed. I mean, jet.


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[Assistant] Perfect, perfect. Uh, mad kudos though to you, Chase. That was a, that was a hell of a comeback, that first moto, to, to fall down, spot that time, and then reel yourself back in. Pass really good guys, by the way.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, that was, it was certainly fun to watch. So I personally think that right now, if you're talking momentum, I think, uh, Chase Sexton.


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[Assistant] Has the, uh, momentum and he's in a great spot going into, uh, into Washugo.


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[Assistant] After the second moto, he did, he did mention that, you know, he thought Chase was going to be good.


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[Assistant] The next, this past weekend at Noville, and he thought that he would be good at Washoogle.


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[Assistant] So I feel like maybe without, without putting words in Chet's mouth, maybe like Millville is a tougher track for him, maybe Washugal is a tougher track for him, and he knows that, he already knows that Chase is really good at, like I said last week and this week, and so it's gonna be,


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[Assistant] Interesting. Uhm, I, you know, there's not much else to say about Jeff. He did what he did. How did you, let me ask you this.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is. That's what I'm saying. I feel like as momentum goes, and they chat, Jetson, or uh, pardon me, Chase is in a great spot right now to go to.


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[Assistant] Man, I don't know. I mean, look at the stats right there. I mean, 2022, what are they?


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[Assistant] Dylan and, uhm, AP had a good, good battle for the podium. Uhm, it was interesting though, like to listen to Dylan's, uh, post-race interview on the podium. Look, dude, he just looked like,


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[Assistant] So bummed and sad, and then, uh, he had some words about the track.


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[Assistant] In his opinion on the track, uh, let's roll that sound.


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[Assistant] What's the one, what's the one below, uh, sorry to interrupt you, what's the one below, uh, the, the scoot tire? Which one is that? Do you know?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was fast too at the end of the day, but, but like he said it, he had that little caveat at the end. He says that's the same for everyone, which it is. It is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I mean things are so, so much different now from mine and your day, like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I don't know that, you know, you're not going to change it. I'm not going to change it. It just, it is what it is. So you have to adapt. You might not like it, but you know what? You gotta.


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[Assistant] You gotta roll on and, and adjust your bike accordingly. So,


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this, you think that if they gave him his 2021 championship bike, you think he goes out and runs for the win, or does he still get third and fourth?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I'm with you. I agree 100%. Dude, uh, did you see the replay of uh, uh, Jason Anderson? Dude, he had a great first moto. Listen, he was off from Jett and Chase and I don't think he expects to run with those guys. I wasn't expecting it.


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[Assistant] But uhm, I think he had a great first moto. Epic. He charged hard.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, coming back from a gnarly injury, getting on the, getting on the box.


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[Assistant] A massive turnaround from Southwick, no doubt.


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[Assistant] It was great to, it was great to see him up there and then he just, uh, was in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is, uh, we're watching the first Moto and he's making the passes, but now we're watching through the sand rollers. And if you watch, this is Moto 2 at the top of the screen, the slitty gets collides together and Jason Anderson just runs right over his bike, takes a gnarly fall.


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[Assistant] I wish this didn't happen. See the left of your screen. You guys collide and there's Anderson. He just jumps right into, believe it or not.


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[Assistant] Like maybe earlier in my day, I feel like they were...


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[Assistant] But I don't think that they turned as much at the end. I almost feel like they went straight and then you did a complete 180.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it came back the other way. So it kind of narrowed up, you know, at the end where that kink was to everyone was fighting for the inside. But yeah, I mean, they're going way faster now than, than those days. You would obviously cause the bikes are way faster, but yeah, I, they, they were gnarly 120%. Um, I think that's enough talk on the 450. What do you think?


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[Assistant] Uhm, 250 recap, dude, I think it was, you know what, I want your biggest takeaways. I already talked about it on the weekend. I want to know what your takeaway was. What was the biggest surprise for you?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it is. I think it is. Uhm, if you look down and you take a deep dive, RV, like,


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[Assistant] He was off in speed. He didn't have that good of speed in Southwick, like really going back and looking at big picture. Southwick wasn't great.


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[Assistant] Then this weekend, he wasn't that fast in the, in practice. I mean, he was fast, but not where he needed to be.


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[Assistant] It's going to be interesting. Uh, I think he needs to, he needs to find that next step. I feel like he's kind of stuck in between like, okay, if things go right, he's going to run up front, but if things don't go right, he's going to get that fifth to seventh place.


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[Assistant] And you know better than anyone, you can't, you can't do that against a guy like Hunter, so I feel like he's gonna find it.


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[Assistant] But he's, he's caught in the middle of that next step of being able to challenge, uh, challenge Hunter every single race. That, that, that's what I think for him.


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[Assistant] 100%. Uhm, I got behind on my, uh, timing, RV, uh, this week. I kinda already answered it, but I wanted to get in some of these questions. Uh, this one's from Cassidy.Peacock. She says, Do you think Deegan would have held Hunter off without making the mistake in Modo 1? Go for it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I will say though, like, I mean, and it's almost like cycling and just cause everyone's probably tuned in watching the Tour de France.


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[Assistant] It would have been good for him not to make that mistake. He was going to get past for sure. I mean, he wanted me to stop Hunter Lawrence, but I feel like if he wouldn't have went off course right here, watching golf course and just how he loses this gap right here.


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[Assistant] I just feel like had he not lost so much of a gap, maybe just, and I'm just, and this is a huge maybe.


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[Assistant] Maybe he would have been able to follow Hunter and latch on and just see where Hunter was riding, you know, how he was riding so strong.


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[Assistant] And how he was charging, not saying he could have made that, you know, mid race adjustment.


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[Assistant] But it would have been cool to see, and I feel like that would have been the only chance he would have had to, uh, you know, to challenge him, but the odds were against him.


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[Assistant] Think that, yeaah, absolutely. If he would have been able to see those lines, run with him for 10 more minutes, he would have gapped the people behind him, and then probably would have been on the podium in the first moto. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] Nate5302 says, do you think Danger Boy can make a comeback in points?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, certainly. And, uh, his post, his Instagram post yesterday,


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[Assistant] I appreciated it because I feel like he's getting a taste of how gnarly pro motocross is. I mean, he said it himself is how he got.


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[Assistant] He got work yesterday, or pardon me, he got worked on Saturday and


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[Assistant] Dude, and every time he said something, he pretty much backs it up, says he's gonna get better, so it'll be, it'll be fun to watch, but dude.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeaah, it happens to everybody and they were in his preferred line multiple times before that. Uhm, I, he mentioned something about it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, at the presser, we got some, we got some tape of that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for some reason, RV, like, when I listened to his podium interview, he made it sound like he collided with the lapper, but that one was on him, 100%.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, dude, talking about, you know, everyone thinks about is talking about Hayden.


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[Assistant] And in the points, can you make it up? A couple guys that I feel like you can't sleep on is Joe Shimoda and Justin Cooper.


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[Assistant] Uhm, why do I say that? Because of their experience. I go back to the end of last year of how well, and how well Joe was writing, and I go to the year before how, how well that Justin was writing, so.


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[Assistant] I feel, I don't give them the advantage, but I feel like, man, if they could just, if they had just a little, a couple things go right, maybe they could...


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[Assistant] Gain a few points on, on Hunter. Do you feel that way or not really?


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I mean, right? It's kinda like Jet. Dude, you can't expect to beat the dude if you don't give yourself a fair shot.


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[Assistant] Uhm, before we go, I have a question for you. I want to, uh, I want to answer our man, uh, from Fowler Facts, king of the calculator, statistician.


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[Assistant] Over the weekend does a great job and he had an interesting question and I want to, I want to answer him. He says, why is, uh, rider, why has rider D lost positions in 14 of 14 motos? Is it speed or fitness or other?


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[Assistant] And here, here's what I think. I think that Ryder D has potential. I think he's slowly getting better. I think he's got some good people around him.


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[Assistant] You know, we're not, I only see what the people on the broadcast see. I'm not, you know, I'm not watching from afar. And so I can't really see the details. So I don't have an answer of, okay, why has he lost position? I'm sure there are other people that have lost position majority of the time too.


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[Assistant] But I feel like he's had a rough go and I know how this is. I mean, I feel like you just get caught in a, in a, in a web, right? And if you can't get over that hump early,


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[Assistant] It takes a lot to get, you know, get, get through that. I feel like he's slowly getting better every single weekend and he's showing me speed. I think he had a pretty good, like I was watching lap times and we went back and, and he was in some good battles for that 10th, top 10, like eight, eight to 12th-ish, like,


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[Assistant] You know, if things went right, maybe he would have been 8th. If things didn't go great, maybe he would have been 12th. But he was there, like, right? He was, he was battling, he was battling, so.


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[Assistant] You know, Osho used to tell me, this is before I got really good shape. And, uhm, I mean, still, still doing well and...


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[Assistant] And having success, but could be challenged.


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[Assistant] And like he always used to tell me, he's like, dude, if you're hurting.


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[Assistant] You know how much you, you train and you know how many motos you do, blah, blah, blah. And it stuck with me my whole career. And he's like, dude, if you're hurting, think of how bad they're hurting.


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[Assistant] So it helped me go, you know, a little bit deeper and a little bit further into the race because I'm like, dude, it's, it's, it's basically a game of chicken. You had to play it with RD, I'm sure multiple times and Stu later on in your career. It's just, all right.


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[Assistant] You guys, it's, it's basically, it's a game of chicken who's going to go deeper, you know?


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[Assistant] That's some epic, I love hearing the strategy.


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[Assistant] Similar. You know what it's similar to? And I think you and I have had this conversation. I feel like it's similar.


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[Assistant] Like same with Stu, you're not going to beat him on speed most of the time, especially super cross. And I'm like, okay. And if there were times in motocross, I just talked about motocross where, you know, like, okay, I got him on speed today. This is great. But if he was showing good speed, then I was just like, okay, I'm just going to try to wear him down.


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[Assistant] Moving along to a quad lock question of the week. This is a good one. And we just actually just naturally talked about it, but it's, uh, from a friend of ours, uh, Luke Banky. I appreciate this is great. And the reason that he won the quad lock question of the week, tell you guys every week.


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[Assistant] It helped, we were able to elaborate on the question. He asked, are there, are there riders that thrive in pro motocross versus supercross? Where do the top riders adapt regardless? Same with manufacturers? Question mark.


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[Assistant] So uhm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a crack at it first so.


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[Assistant] The good guys find a way to win in both disciplines. Supercross, motocross. I feel in some instances, and this is from personal experience, uhm, I feel like


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[Assistant] And I was a hard worker, I wasn't scared to do the motos, you know, like I required a lot of time on the motorcycles, so.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah. Riders, you know, they adapt. The one person I will say, and it used to drive me absolutely up the walls, and I could never comprehend, and you know where I'm going with this, is Chad Reed.


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[Assistant] The dude would give me all I ever wanted, RV, and...


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[Assistant] Supercross, like, and then motocross. I mean, he had a couple.


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[Assistant] You know, times where he'd be challenging, but I knew he wasn't going to be there. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but those, that's just how it was. But then I would be, I'd be so pissed at the end of the race, RV, I'm like, dude.


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[Assistant] How can you be so good at Supercross and just like dog me, but then in motocross, you, you know, you, you like, you're not even close to what you are to at least, at least me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he was the one that, but he won a motocross champion, he won a couple motocross championships, I believe, maybe in the 250, no, maybe not in the 250.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so give us your, what you think about that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, hey, and the thing about that guy is he would never give up. I mean, he took a beating, dude. Like, lining up.


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[Assistant] A lot, you know, I use it as like the jet and chase situation and chase is very similar. I feel like that's what I really respect about him is like, dude, he never gives up. He knows he's going to have a lot of work ahead of him, but he's up for the challenge and he's not going to the line already defeated.


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[Assistant] And that, dude, that takes a special person to do that. And I feel like...


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[Assistant] And that, that was the one thing about like Chad, even though he was so challenging for me in Supercross, Motocross was nowhere close, but it never, like dude, he never gave up. He'd go there every weekend trying to figure out a way to win, so, uh.


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[Assistant] It's pretty incredible. Uh, Luke, thank you very much. We'll get you dialed in with some, uh,


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[Assistant] That was a, that was a good question. That was a good question. Especially from a basic fan who doesn't know a whole lot.


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[Assistant] Remember, always check in with the, uh, SMX Insider.


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[Assistant] Saturday it starts with the IMSA series. It's at Lime Rock. I've raced here. It's a great track, uh, in Connecticut. The Northeast Grand Prix at noon Eastern on USA.


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[Assistant] With the race starting at four, stick around for the post race show there as well. You won't want to miss that little extra tidbits.


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[Assistant] Lastly, the Xfinity series is at the Tricky Triangle Pocono at 5pm on USA.


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[Assistant] Uh, man, it's gonna be a good one. Uh, Sunday, there's an encore presentation of Washugal and that's at noon. So make sure, uh, if you've, for some reason, Ms. Washugal, there'll be an encore, like I said, um,


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[Assistant] Uh, the next day that that'll always be fun. After that second, uh, Iowa Indy car race is at 2 PM on NBC. Scott Dixon still out there looking for that first win. He's been on a dry run this, uh, this year. So, uh, interesting to see if you can get that, uh,


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[Assistant] Get that done. And then finally, the NASCAR Cup Series is in Pocono, 2pm Eastern.


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[Assistant] As well on USA, New Hampshire race is happening right now. Actually, I was watching, uh, I was watching New Hampshire.


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[Assistant] Love that racetrack. Crazy thing is the series only has six more races until the playoffs, which leads me to, uhm, we only got four more rounds of Pro Motocross till we go into the inaugural SMX playoff rounds. It's gonna be, it's gonna be a lot of fun. So uhm,


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[Assistant] That, honestly, I'm looking forward to the first one in Charlotte. Uh, the reason I'm looking forward to that one is just because it's new and I think it's gonna be exciting. I think there's, it's gonna be fun. I think we're gonna have a full field, hopefully.


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[Assistant] Uh, so that, that'll be fun. It'll be fun to see, uhm,


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[Assistant] I'm assuming everyone's going to be there except Eli, unfortunately, but I think it's going to be a dog fight. It's going to be really fun to watch.


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[Assistant] Chicago would be good, obviously, and then of course I'm looking forward to the, uh,


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[Assistant] L.A. Coliseum. Wait, are you coming, are you coming to, uh, you coming?


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[Assistant] Hey, that 250 for that second and third spot and SMX points with RJ and Hayden, that's going to be an epic battle because we know that, we know RJ, he ain't scared to turn it loose.


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[Assistant] Dude, isn't it crazy how when you look at that second and third on SMX points in 2vidi class, doesn't it?


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[Assistant] Does it weird you out how Hayden is that like behind RJ or not? Like I look at him. Yeah, I guess he did all of that.


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[Assistant] What's, uh, what's your insight for Washugo? Who you got? What do you, or what are you looking forward to for Washugo?


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're gonna have to, uh, they're certainly gonna have to be mindful, like you know, dude, it gets super slippery there, uh, you don't have a lot of wiggle room, you gotta be, the precision matters a little bit more, uh.


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[Assistant] Hey, right on. Can't believe I'm filling in for the goat, but, uh, I'll take it. Uh, long time ago we were talking about doing a podcast together. It was going to be called Title 15.


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[Assistant] Yeah, between Ricky and I, we've got 15 titles and 150 wins.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm an admitted fan and follower of both of you guys and I really enjoy the Title 24 podcast and you guys are off to a great start.


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[Assistant] Well, like you said, it was no easy day, uh, watching the ruts, watching those guys navigate. Um, I'm always impressed by that diversity of the whole series. We went from what was admittedly a dry.


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[Assistant] sketchy surface, uh, maybe even narrow in places at Hangtown. So all of a sudden you're...


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[Assistant] Literally in the mountains, on the side of a mountain, on a man's track.


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[Assistant] Uh, same results, but wow, uh, uh, just a different look and a different feel. And, uh, I really enjoyed it. Um, I didn't get to go because, you know, we've obviously, obviously have high point.


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[Assistant] So, uh, I watched on Peacock, uh, sitting, uh, in the announcer's tower at High Point in between mowing sessions. So, uh, it was, uh, it was fun to watch and also fun to be out there working.


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[Assistant] Picked up on, uh, the, the, the Spanish kid Guillaume.


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[Assistant] Faris, and I was really impressed by him the first two weeks.


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[Assistant] So I was, you know, keeping an eye on him and you know, that unfortunately lasted 50 yards off the starting gate and you know, these first turn crashes and start straight crashes have always been part of the sport and uhm, but we gotta figure out a way to mitigate them as much as we can.


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[Assistant] Uh, and you hate to see a kid, uh, you know, all those guys go down, but it looks like, you know, Ferris, uh, had to be transported and we might not get to see him here for a little while. Um, but it was, you know, it was just one of those chain reaction things. Ryan, I called, I called a pinball crash.


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[Assistant] Well, let's, let's start with Hunter and you know, maybe you can have some insight on this. It seems like in the first Modo, he's being real tentative at the beginning tonight. This goes across.


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[Assistant] Each of the first three rounds, he did get to second this time, but it's a weird sort of, you know,


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[Assistant] Like he, he, it has the championship in mind already, uh, that he's not thinking, you know, and I remember Ricky saying this when I used to interview him. He'd be like, there are motos and there are days when the track is going to give you a second or the day is going to give you a third.


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[Assistant] Whatever he's doing, it's, it's working. He may not be perfect like number 18 is so far, but, uh, it's, it's, it's definitely been a winning formula for Honda HRC, both in supercross and motocross.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you know, Hunter's been all over the world. Obviously he's from Australia. He's spent some time in Europe. You know how different tracks are over there, how different the system is. And then, you know, when he came here to the States in 2019, he was not quite


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[Assistant] Uh, Hayden's young, Hayden's a rookie, uh, he's probably thinking, you know,


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[Assistant] Gotta get that first trophy, gotta get that first Moto win like he did last week.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, and his inconsistency, you know, is, is showing in the second moto, but yeah, you know.


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[Assistant] I don't think Hunter Lawrence is going to throw away a championship because of a perceived, you know, on the bike insult or whatever you want to call that. Uh, he's just riding smart and, and, and you could hear it afterwards. Uh, when they asked him about it, he just shrugged and said, you know,


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[Assistant] Basically I'm here for the championship and that's just the way that Hayden rides.


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[Assistant] And you know, I think that, uh, with the exception of possibly Jet in the 450 class, Hayden Deegan's been a revelation. Uh, he's really good.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, he, he, he's fun to watch. Uh, he's, he's aggressive. As you saw right there, a little look over on the tabletop. But he's fast. You know, he's, he starts well and he's strong. And I, I just.


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[Assistant] I know the way Brian and Marissa, uh, have, have raised all their kids, uh, he, he's competitive, he's entertaining, uh, and, and, you know, he just needs to be a little more patient, I think, and he needs to remember that sometimes what goes around comes around.


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[Assistant] And uhm, you know, but right now I think Hunter is looking forward and


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[Assistant] Yeah, and, and it's another track that I don't think Hayden's ever been to. Uh, and, and, you know, that, I have a lot of respect for that. The fact that he can adapt so well, you know, James and, and, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, Jason Wagan were talking on the show about how Hayden didn't even get to do press day at Colorado. So that was all new to him. I mean, he, he had to hit the switch in the morning and, uh, he had the fastest lap time.


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[Assistant] of the whole race. It was Hayden Deegan, even faster than Jet. Granted, that was the second lap of the first moto and the track was at its absolute smoothest, but you know.


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[Assistant] You can't teach pure speed. You can get faster, you can get stronger, but you gotta have it naturally. And the kid does.


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[Assistant] John Michelle Bale in 1989 coming over for the first time. We'd seen him on a 125 before. He did a couple supercrosses in the 250 class and then we show up at the first outdoor national at Gator back that year.


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[Assistant] And he put a 30 second whooping on everyone. And it was like, wow, is that beginner's luck? And, and he was just riding around on his toes and just had this really unique style. And I see that in, in, in jet. And I'll be honest, I remember your first 450 national Glenn Helen in 09.


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[Assistant] If I remember correctly, it was a solid, emphatic 1-1. The reason we don't talk about it more is because unfortunately you hurt your knee before HangTown, the second round, but there are certain guys who come along. I would include you, I would include Ricky, I would include The Dunge in 2010.


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[Assistant] They, they, they just from the get-go in this class, they can, they can really do it, and, and I think we're seeing something really special, uh, in Jet. Uhm, the one thing that, that he and his brother really have in common is one thing that, uh, Ricky had as well, and that's a,


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[Assistant] They're using Johnny O'Mara as their, as their coach, as their mentor. Johnny is, you know, is a supercross champion, a motocross champion. He's been training guys and working with guys ever since, you know.


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[Assistant] That the championships have been coming and, and, and you know, what, what, what, what.


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[Assistant] Also Lars Lindstrom and the whole Honda crew, uh, his brung. They're having a phenomenal year. The bikes are on point. The team is working together. They lost Roxxon, you know, before the season started, had to replace it with Colt Nichols. That didn't go great.


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[Assistant] But man, they, they swept Supercross and they're undefeated basically outdoors. So that's a, that's a juggernaut over at Team Honda right now, kind of like the early eighties. And I know that dates me too, but.


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[Assistant] You know, the numbers were actually unlucky for Ty because he went 5-4 and by all intents and purposes stole the show in that second moto, uh, but he still got sixth overall. It was just a weird...


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[Assistant] One of those weird days where, you know, uh, like when Robbie Raynard went 7-1 and won the Steel City national, and another time you go 7-1 and you end up


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[Assistant] Fifth overall, it's just, it was weird, but so I, I've known the master pool family for a really long time. They've, they've been through, you know, the, the absolute, you know, worst things that could.


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[Assistant] Happened to a family in this sport and, and now, you know, with Ty, he's, he's, you know,


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[Assistant] He's so phenomenally talented, but had so much bad luck and you had a brief stay with star racing and, and, and he just kept getting hurt. And even this year, you know, Jerry, the father put them in the two 50 classes start out and yes, they did. After one round, you know, if you're going to be a privateer.


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[Assistant] You're probably better off, you know, rather than racing against those star motos and HRC motors and pro circuit motors to, to, you know, get up in the 450 class. And I know it was a gamble, but man, he was really impressive at Hangtown too.


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[Assistant] I think that for the first time since he debuted at Redbud, uh, you know, back in 2020, we saw.


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[Assistant] Timeasterpool's full potential. And uhm, I thought it was very gracious of guys like Cooper Webb to be so complimentary of him afterwards and say, you know, wow, uh, that was, that was amazing. They, he, he literally thought it was AC behind him. And uhm, so I hope that he can keep it going. Uh, I know that uh, they're on a shoestring budget.


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[Assistant] You know, when your, when your top sponsor sports clips, uh, and not, you know, some big, uh, factory, uh, you, you gotta do it, you know.


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[Assistant] You gotta run it lean, but uh, man, I, I was really happy for Ty, really happy for Jerry and Tara and just the whole family. It was, it was a cool, it was a cool privateer moment, unlike one that I, I can't, it's been a while since we had someone do that.


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[Assistant] In the second moto, battling factory guys. And when the first moto, he was dead last. He was 40th at the first timing loop because of that first turn crash you mentioned. And, uh, he passed 35 guys and he passed Plessinger a couple of times. I mean, really gave him a battle. And, um, yeah, you know, it, uh,


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[Assistant] In the, in the end, I wish he'd have gotten third overall, just cause it'd been a better story, but, but I think that the motivation is there and I don't think he's going to catch anyone by surprise at high point. I think Coop and AP and Dylan know who number 81 is now.


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[Assistant] The privateers have at Southwick, you know, you get that local element and they get the good start and they've got, they know where every bump and everything is. Uh, but what Ty did at Colorado, uh, was he, he was,


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[Assistant] Well, if, if he rides like that for the rest of the year, he will be getting some podiums. He will be getting some phone calls, but for now, you know, I, I just, I hope he keeps the momentum going. Uh, he was very strong at Hangtown. It was not a one hit wonder. Um, you know, and knock on wood, you know, if he gets a, the kind of starts he used to get on the 250, uh, lookout, it could be, it could be something special.


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[Assistant] I, I would be disappointed if I were AP. Uhm, you know, he's got, he's had some hard luck this year. My God. Uh, you know, throwing away that Supercross win on the last lap, uh, you know, getting, you know, tangled up with Dylan Ferranes and stuck under the bike here.


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[Assistant] Colorado, uhm, you know, he's an incredibly versatile rider. He's also very tall, which I know.


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[Assistant] You know, you might think that it helps you in the ruts, but as you know, and as we've seen with guys like Wyndham and Travis Pastrana, the bigger your feet, the longer your legs, the more difficult those rutted tracks can be and the more susceptible you are to injury. Uhm, but, but, you know, he's so close to winning on a 450.


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[Assistant] And yet, you know, we're, we're three years into his career. He's, he's closer than he's ever been. But man, I thought, I thought it would have happened by now and I would be disappointed if I were him, but I wouldn't quit doing what I'm doing. He just needs better starts.


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[Assistant] No, and, and, and, but, but at the same time, I see improvements, you know, obviously with an unfortunate tip over, you know, in the second corner really slowed and, and I believe this was the second moto. Uh, yeah, Cooper, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, he got hurt at the worst possible time for motocross and that was, you know, right in the stretch run of supercross and only did it knock him out of the, the monster energy supercross title chase, but it took away all this prep time for outdoors. And I think that, that Aaron and Cooper.


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[Assistant] Issues and what not. Uh, I, I know he's gotta be relieved that he got a contract extension with Red Bull KTM and I think that you'll see him ride.


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[Assistant] Uh, much looser with more confidence for the rest of the year. Uh, but, but all of those guys, whether you're, you know, Red Bull KTM, Monster Energy, Kawasaki, uhm,


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[Assistant] You're looking at Honda and you're looking at Jet Lawrence and you're thinking, is he even, can he go even faster? And I, I think the answer is a scary yes.


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[Assistant] So, AP is going to have his work cut out for him. And I don't think it has to be a mud race. I don't think it has to be necessarily an event that he likes. I just think he needs to put together two good starts, two good motos, and man, he's got to have some good luck coming his way.


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[Assistant] He, he, he, you know, just like that, that tip over collision with.


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[Assistant] With, um, Ferrandus, it's things like that, that just, you know, it always seems to be, uh, you know, Aaron Plessinger.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. And, and, you know, the, the, the missing man in this, this whole conversation, and I, I know Justin Barsh is out and I know Jason Anderson's out and, and it may, you know, who knows when we'll see Ken Rocks and actually we'll see, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] I, I've got my, I've got my fingers crossed and I've, and I've got my, uh, I've got my, uh, can rocks and cardboard cut out just, just in, just in case we get some good news.


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[Assistant] A last minute entry for Highpoint, so we'll see, but uhm, I do want to talk about Chase Sexton. Let's do that. And I didn't know until I listened to the show last week that he had written on Wednesday, you mentioned, uhm,


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[Assistant] After, after he got banged up on Tuesday and, and now, you know, it's the whole thing's exasperated by mono. And you know, Ryan happened to you a couple of times in your career where you'd win a championship. Uh, and, and I'm thinking of 2014, you.


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[Assistant] You literally led the, the, the, the last 80 laps.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that's something I should have probably taken into account as something that's different this year because whereas he's 106 points down in pro motocross, he's actually still ahead of John Lawrence in the super motocross standings and he does have that thing to look forward to and whereas


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[Assistant] You know, the, the, his absence right now is, is, uh, you know, unfortunate for fans of


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[Assistant] The AMA Pro Motocross Series, uh, he's, he's got a chance to come back and win a lot of money. So the season's not wiped out like it was for you, you know, when you tore your knee up at Seattle or, uh, when you, you got, you got hurt, you know, in 09 after the, you know, winning your 450 debut.


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[Assistant] You're looking at your teammates, you're looking at Jed, you're looking at those, you know, performances.


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[Assistant] And, and, and the expectations are gonna be there for him to come back and immediately go after number 18.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I forgot, I forgot to think about that. The, the Chicago land race literally is a Jay Sexton's backyard. Um, yeah, the, the, uh, this year, the, the dynamics are just different with, with everyone. Uh, you know, but supercrosses, you know, had its own unique.


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[Assistant] Storyline, motocross, you know, we've got some really cool things going on right now.


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[Assistant] But the unfortunate thing is sort of hovering over all of it and not just.


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[Assistant] Motorcross and Supercross in America, but MXGP in Europe is, we're seeing just a really unlucky, unfortunate run of injuries.


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[Assistant] And, and, and one of the guys that, that you got to race with a few times before you hung up your boots, Jeffy Hurling's over in, in, uh, Europe.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and, and, you know, I, I was hoping, and I'm sure I wasn't alone, that, that Jeffrey might pop up.


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[Assistant] For an outdoor national here in the states and maybe try an outside chance qualify for the super motocross championship. But yeah, now I just hope it's a get well soon and, and he does get back out there, but man, you know, that bad luck, uh, it's, it's, um,


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[Assistant] It's, it's been par for the course. And what's crazy is to think about, he's got, he's got a Ricky number of wins and like a hundred and two, a hundred and three. And yet he's probably thrown away five world titles, uh, with, with this kind of injury. So I guess my point is it's, it's something.


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[Assistant] Collectively, uh, in all series across the board, indoors, outdoors, uh, we, we got some, we got some, we got some work to do. We got some data to crunch. We got some heavy conversations to have not only with our track builders, but with our OEMs, with our athletes, uh, the, the,


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[Assistant] You know, to Denny Stevenson's point last week, this attrition rate can't, can't continue.


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[Assistant] And, and, you know, sometimes it's just like a run of really bad luck, like with, with Hamlet Ferris.


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[Assistant] Uh, or what happened to Jeffery over in...


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[Assistant] Uh, Germany, uh, none of them looked that bad. Uh, well, all first crashes look bad, but, um, it, it's, it's just, is it the, is it, is it a bad draw right now? Is it the bikes? Is it the tracks? Um, I, I think those are good questions to, to drill down on.


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[Assistant] Ever since they went to 450s and, and things like engine mapping and all the complications came, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] It was, it was over in Europe, MXGP went to the metal grades first and, uh, it became sort of a, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, an advantage for them in the motocross of nations because you guys, Ryan, I don't think you ever maybe once at the Monster Cup started on a mental rate.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, so they've been using them in Europe for a long time, you know, more than a decade, I'm gonna guess. And, uh, uh, you know, Feld decided to start using them in Supercross. We will be using them in Supermotorcross.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, and, and come September, uh, but we have a steering committee that consists of people like Dan Fahey, Roger DeCoster, Lars Lindstrom.


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[Assistant] Uh, some of the various other, you know, team managers and people, the OEMs.


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[Assistant] And, and they collectively wanted to do this step and they said, look,


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[Assistant] We're using them in supercross, we're going to use them in super motocross, uh, and, and the Desnations are going to use them and we always want to be ready and have that advantage of, of getting good starts at the motocross of nations. So it was kind of a no brainer and the problem though is after the first week,


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[Assistant] Uh, there were zero first turn crashes at Fox Raceway, and that is a hairpin left hander, uh, in pretty long straight. Uhm, you know, four motos, two LCQs, no crashes.


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[Assistant] The second corner was a different story and, uh, I definitely think we'll be doing the track prep differently there, uh, as RJ Hampshire really made sure that we knew, uh, that we needed to not only worry about the first turn, but the second turn in between motors. But anyway,


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[Assistant] Then comes that big crash on the outside at Hangtown. That was the 12th Modo of the year.


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[Assistant] Yeah, in, in watching that, that 450 crash in the first moto, uh, you know, I just realized Ty Masterpool just lost the front end. He just, it was a, it was a,


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[Assistant] Uh, thunder valley tip over, I've seen a bunch of times, but you know, I don't want to minimize the fact that, that, that, that we're having these, these crashes or had a few.


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[Assistant] We're crunching the data, Ryan. We're looking at everything, uh, and trying to figure out, you know, if there is some kind of pattern here. And this goes back to what I was saying earlier. It's time for some hard conversations and a deep look at, you know,


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[Assistant] Everything from, you know, the, the, the power of the bikes, the whole shot devices, all the little gadgets we have nowadays and, and, and just, you know, the fact that there are a lot of races, but the point is,


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[Assistant] This isn't the 31st race, this isn't the 21st race, and this was the 19th, 20th race of the year, uh, and we've got a lot of riders out, and like I said, it transcends both supercross and motocross, not just in the US, but everywhere.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're gonna look at it, we're gonna talk about it, and, and, and, uh, you know.


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[Assistant] Let's watch a few more of these closely. Uh, I, I, I would like to watch. And I think one of the questions that someone asked is about that, that unique starting procedure that Jet Lawrence is doing. Yeah. Do we have a question on that?


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[Assistant] Uh, I saw him after the mechanics area at Fox Raceway when he was, uh, in, in the Sakamoto battling with, with Chase Sex and he came into the right-handed corner in a full lock slide, both feet on the pegs, the bike sideways and never shut off. It was like, it was like watching, you know,


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[Assistant] David Knight, you know, riding around the Isle of Man. It was crazy to see.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I just thought, you know, same thing. It was, it reminded me of seeing, you know, some of those other, you know, really special guys that come along, you know, and again, I hate to say John Michelle Bale again. I remember Jeremy in Supercross in, in, in 1993.


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[Assistant] Uh, as soon as he got to the front, he stayed there for seven, eight years. And he was doing this really unique, uh, uh, you know, the way he was low jumping things, not quite a scrub yet, but using those BMX tricks.


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[Assistant] Everybody does that. He changed the game. James Stewart changed the game. With the scrub.


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[Assistant] With the scrub and you know, and you guys had to pick up on all that.


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[Assistant] There's an, there's another thing about the Lawrence Brothers that I've noticed and they ride, especially Hunter, with his index fingers forward the whole time.


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[Assistant] And I think another one of those strings to pull on Ryan is the fact that they are brothers, and they're close in age, and they're both at the peak at the same time, or at least peaking this year at the same time.


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[Assistant] And, and they get to work together and they get to push each other. And you know, we've talked about.


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[Assistant] Uh, and even, you know, don't forget about Christophe Porcel, your old teammate at Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki. He and his brother Sebastian actually won a GP on the same day in the two different classes.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's just really new here in America with, with, with Jett and Hunter. And, uh, you know, the closest we've had to that, like I said, is James and Malcolm. Uh, you know, you had your brother, uh, Tyler didn't, you know, I think take it as serious as you did and was a little younger.


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[Assistant] But when you guys are kids, you had someone to ride with, someone to train with, someone to talk to, and the Lawrence brothers have taken that


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[Assistant] You know, two, you know, the, you know, what? Jets 19 now and Hunters 21, 22. Uhm, and they've been together, like, inseparable since they were over in Europe riding Suzuki's. And uhm, and finally, you know, Johnny O'Mara. I think that, that, that he's giving the same lesson to,


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[Assistant] The brothers and they're just applying them differently. One's on a 250 now and one's on a five 450, I should say. And uhm, but they, they look so.


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[Assistant] It's, it's raining right now. It's a live, live interview. Um, but, uh, uh, you know, we, we, we, we got a head start on it. It's been incredibly dry in the Northeast. We were lucky to have that, that Canadian forest fire smoke drift over as far south as Mount Morris, Pennsylvania, but, uh, it looks really good out there. And, um,


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[Assistant] I imagine we're going to have a great big crowd. It's Father's Day weekend. And uhm, you know, High Point, they come out in droves. You certainly remember that. In fact, I think you got your first national win at High Point.


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[Assistant] I, I, I certainly hope so. And, uh, thank you for having me on as, as a guest. I guess, I guess this show is Title IX, huh?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I did, and you remain the best retired guy in the world.


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[Assistant] Yeah man, it's uh, well finally we had our first warm one. I wouldn't call it hot, but it was definitely warm. Uhm, you can see that on some of the guys. Uhm, you know, after races, you know, guys are bringing out cooling vests.


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[Assistant] You know, things like that, you know, so that was good to see. Definitely. Yeah, we got Joe right here in an ice bucket, Carson getting out of his ice bucket here, ice trash can, but, uh, you know, that's good. It's outdoors. Love to see that. Uhm, Hanktown's always a special place for me. It was always round one. So.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, it's always, uh, it's always a lot of fun to go back to Hangtown. Haven't been back in a while. So that was good. You know, as for the track, I was, uh,


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[Assistant] I guess I was a little bit surprised. Uhm, I thought looking at the track when we, when we showed up Saturday morning.


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[Assistant] At practice, I thought it looked like it was rushed and why I say that is, is, um, man, some of the sections are.


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[Assistant] I know that Trat Hangtown has a tendency to be one line, uhm, which is okay. We need these tracks that are, that are a bit one line, that are hard to pass on, uhm, and they just can't all be super fast, wide open, easy to pass on. But what I thought was a bit interesting is,


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[Assistant] Parts of the track, they left like two or three feet of actual track, uhm, before it actually went off into...


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, I just thought man, they could have done a little bit better job on the prep and getting the track.


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[Assistant] Uhm, a little opened up coming down some of the hills, uhm, coming down the very first hill, uhm, actually from when the, what we would call the old step up, but now it was double, double, double up the hill. Uhm, coming down that, that's a specific spot. I was like, man, there's like three foot of track over here on the, on the side of it that,


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[Assistant] You can't use it because they, they didn't windrow it with the blade of the dozer.


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[Assistant] And it just made it a bit one line. So I know some guys were complaining about that. Everybody's got to race it, but from a, from a ex racer and fan's perspective, um, I would have liked to see a little bit better prep job done on the track. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I believe, I believe they do, Ricky. I believe they do. I think it's supposed to be, uhm, don't quote me on this, but I want to say it's like, uhm, 22 feet wide or, or more 25 feet wide or something. And, and, uhm, you know, just the big sky shot jump that, uh, that has, that, that, uh, you come


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[Assistant] A single before it, like that single you could barely put two bikes on, I thought. You know, it was very, very narrow.


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[Assistant] Um, like I said, don't get me wrong. I like a one line track. If you go and look at a lot of European tracks for MXGP, um, it just makes the start that much more critical. Maybe your racing strategy is a little bit different than racing at Redbud or Bud's Creek or some of these other bigger tracks. So I like the diversity in the tracks.


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[Assistant] But uh, I do think that uhm, they could have done just a bit better of a job on the prep.


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[Assistant] Like I say, I like to see these, the different diversity in the tracks and having it be narrow in spots, but I do feel like if we know, for instance, the old finish line right there, we know that 98% of the race is probably going to be ran inside. But if that's the case, I just feel like.


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[Assistant] Put a little bit of a berm on the outside. It's gonna be the farthest way around it. It's the hardest to get to.


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[Assistant] Open it up for guys that maybe are getting a bad start, like say if you got a, you got a top 3 guy, top 5 guy that's in a 12th position.


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[Assistant] Because his clothes rate on some of those guys are a lot faster, like give them an option to go other places. But without a berm, without a windrow of dirt on the outside, there's really, they just got to follow suit, which I guess is racing.