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[Assistant] Evil, you want to live with the world. And the fact that it's a guy that you're like, even a lot of people could root for.


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[Assistant] A little mafia. Mafia's got a little bit of that where they...


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[Assistant] They, there's a little client like, you know, they don't, it's not with the families. You don't do it at.


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[Assistant] You know, like, uh, I'm watching the Irishman.


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[Assistant] And you know, I don't get, but they talk about killing someone where they go, you know, and they did it.


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[Assistant] But it's, uh, it's, there's a system to it. There's a, you know, you're, you know, I'm watching, I was going back to John Wick.


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[Assistant] Uh, I've never really watched that one. I watched the first one and so I'm, I'm gonna watch the second, third one tonight. Uh, or just the second one. And just like my mission impossible going through, I always keep you guys, the listeners updated on, I always look at the camera and I don't think everybody ever, this camera's not on. Uh, there's, I, uh, so John Wick, they have a hotel, right? Have you seen John Wick?


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[Assistant] Uh, that assassins go to and nothing's supposed to happen in this hotel. Like it's the one place an assassin, cause all these, this group of assassins, they could all be trying to, they always feel like they're gonna get killed if they leave. So, but in the hotel, it's supposed to be, you can drink, you can relax, nothing happens.


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[Assistant] Uh, and so I feel like the mafia had that kind of thing. Like they had...


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[Assistant] You know, you didn't do stuff to family, you didn't do this, you didn't, you know, there was such a respect to the family. And then most of the crime, until drugs came involved, were this kind of crime. They were, it was robbing brinks, or it was, you know, jumping, you know, it's very,


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[Assistant] Just trying to scan the system, not paying the taxes in a certain way. Stuff that guys could truly get behind.


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[Assistant] Guys that were, you know, like you could be, if you're a blue collar worker, you're like, you were like good for them, man.


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[Assistant] Go, go, like yeaah, they just, you know, you're rooting for them. Stick it to them. Stick it to them, you know.


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[Assistant] And they would loan money out, you know, they, so I, yeah, the mafia was.


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[Assistant] It seems like it's, you know, I don't think it's that bad, you know, I would join. It's, uh, no, but then, and then drugs came involved and then it just got more ruthless. I mean, money just got crazier and I mean, that's when the cartel came and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] I also looked up too, like, could you hire an- after watching John Wick, I was like, could you hire an assassin?


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[Assistant] And, uh, I mean, there's real answers to, like, we're, that's definitely Queero, Qero. How do you say that? Qero. Q-U-A-R-O.


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[Assistant] You can ask questions and they give you the answer. And so I looked up, can you hire an assassin?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but they don't, it's, you're, you're more than likely we'll get, it's, it's this, you're going to get caught, then you're actually going to get to an assassin. Oh.


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[Assistant] Like they, I looked up to, like it's, it says like, you know, what do you want?


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[Assistant] Five grand straight killing. Do you want us to crippling? Do you want to cripple them? Do you want to make them blind forever? Like there's different, we'll do whatever you want to go do. But a lot of that stuff's police. And then it's, they, they arrest more than you probably realize. They arrest more people. But it was funny to someone who's like, how can I be an assassin? If one of them want to be an assassin, you know, someone they're like, look, it's murder. It's not,


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[Assistant] You know, obviously if you can get past all that and then here's the way you should do it. And then like, would it go into like, you need a military background, you need to be trained, you need to be.


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[Assistant] Somebody even said, you gotta realize that once you say, I want to be hitman, there's a chance you're going to have a guy come try to kill you. And then you got to kill that guy to then get that job.


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[Assistant] So when you always got to then, so once you go open the door of saying, I want to be a hitman and you go meet someone that would hire a hitman.


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[Assistant] And now it's on the table that you will actually have possibly, then the guy goes, well, maybe I may have not, I don't have that good of a hitman.


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[Assistant] Maybe you gotta hit me and you're like, I'm thinking about mixing it up a little. You're like, you know, I don't, I think he's getting too comfortable. I think he's not as, he's a little sloppier. So. He's phoning it in.


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[Assistant] Then you go. So if you ever, so the listener's at home.


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[Assistant] If you ever have hitman come after you saying you don't say you don't want to be hitman, but if you ever hitman assassin come after you, if you can kill him, then you got a new job. If you are.


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[Assistant] Whether you like it or not, if you kill the assassin.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I was, I was googling like, is assassins, are they real? Is it a real thing? Like is it, you know, you always see assassins and...


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[Assistant] And most are, they're trying to make it look as natural as possible. You know, they're not, it's not like you're just sniping a guy off a roof. You're trying to poison them. You're trying to, you know, they study them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's just, you know. Yeah, we romanticize it, but. It's not as good as it, you know. I think this brings- You're not like the Iceman.


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[Assistant] Right. Like that guy was a true hitman. You ever watch his interviews? Somebody just told me about him. He would like spray something on you and you'd die away later.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, we're using the mafia. Iceman killed.


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[Assistant] He loved killing people and would do it random.


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[Assistant] He had a family and stuff and just would live a normal family life. But then, I mean, that's like someone that when they go to the wife, like, did you know he was killing all these people? And you're like, once you say it, I mean, now it makes sense. But no, you can't wrap their head around that. But yeah, I mean, he was a mafia. He enjoyed killing people. So he did kind of that.


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[Assistant] This is my thing. I want to do it. Why not go get paid to do it? I mean, he killed kids, cut them off. I mean, he would like.


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[Assistant] I mean, he was like working his crap. And he would, I mean, you watch the thing on HBO, they interviewed him. And he just talked like, I mean, kids like cut him off and he followed him and then.


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[Assistant] Killed em, like you know, just dumb kids. Just killed em all. Like at Christmas time, wasn't he like assembling something? Something like that, yea.


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[Assistant] Yeah, got a lot of people. So, alright, did you find the...


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't have any. So just, just what's one of them? Go to number one.


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[Assistant] Alright, what's it called? Go back up. The central bank of Iraq robbery. Central bank of Iraq robbery. Another robbery in Baghdad became the largest I've been to Baghdad.


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[Assistant] Uh, one day before the Iraq war began in 2003, he sent three large trucks to the bank. He sent his son.


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[Assistant] Yep. Lebanon, Tennessee. Uh, here we are. Here we are. All right. So the United California Bank Heist in 1972.


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[Assistant] Anthony Dennis, like just a normal, my name's Bill Jones. I'm one of the biggest bank robbers of, you know, thank you.


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[Assistant] Emil Denicio, a professional criminal from Ohio, assembled a gang of six robbers and flew them to California.


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[Assistant] They rented a townhouse and plan a heist on a bank.


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[Assistant] Where they had mistakenly heard President Richard Nixon kept a multi-million dollar slush fund.


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[Assistant] The crew dynamited their way to the vault, stole $30 million worth of cash and valuables, fled after meticulously scrubbing down the townhouse.


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[Assistant] They'd give it a taxi driver and through fingerprints found on the inside of the towns.


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[Assistant] Home dishwasher. So basically, you just had not to back then, and they sold 30 million dollars.


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[Assistant] So basically back then you just had not, you just didn't have to get noticed.


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[Assistant] Like they can, once they, if they got ya, they can do the fingerprint thing to figure it out. But if you just don't get seen and don't do anything around it, I mean, you could.


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[Assistant] I mean it wasn't a big deal. You're only threat.


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[Assistant] Was the actual guarding of the thing that you're trying to get.


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[Assistant] So the threat is to get on that train and to get the stuff. That's the only, that was really the only threat. They don't go ride a taxi driver. You know, they don't tip them.


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[Assistant] Some stupid amount. They don't do something weird. Well, I don't know how they found the town home.


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[Assistant] Well, a generous, a generous tip from the taxi drivers, the taxi goes, why had these three guys, and then they, you just, you're, then you can start asking questions, oh, they just flew to whatever, I'm sure they had to buy a ticket, the guys bought it, you know, it's like, you're just, you're able to eventually,


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[Assistant] Be a detective and detect from there. All you need is another door to open and then that door opens and you start asking questions around that door.


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[Assistant] You know, us three. Three of us. Three of us. It wouldn't go well. I mean.


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[Assistant] What would we be? Who would be the mastermind? I think I'd be the mastermind.


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[Assistant] I don't think I'd want to take the lead of a heist, but I think with us, I would have to take the lead. I would think with our, the best, I would prefer to get a crew that I could maybe rely on someone else just cause it's, I'm such new to this, but if this is the only crew I got, I think I'm taking control.


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[Assistant] I'm safe, 10 and 2. You'd be yelling at people. I would.


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[Assistant] No, but you would, we would run out and then you would be like, I gotta let the car warm up. Like, and then we would sit, like you would, you have no sense of urgency. So you would, you would be a lot of, I'm getting over when I can. And it's like.


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[Assistant] You don't make a scene. You gotta make a scene to get out. To leave, you gotta make a scene. I would be driving to get us out and then I would be like, now you take over and drive.


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[Assistant] You know, so you're, you're, now we look, we blend in more, but you would, we, you would get us caught cause you would, you'd be like, I gotta follow the laws. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's, I think he's back at the, I think you're back at the house. Cleaning? Cleaning it.


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[Assistant] Getting, uh, snacks ready for us when we get back because I think we'll be hungry. Getting water for everyone. And I want some cookies. I want, I think we should do some cake. I think we should celebrate. And I want.


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[Assistant] I think, I don't think I can have you. You come home, the door's locked. Just open it up!


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think I can, I can risk having you. No. You can't be there. I would be the only reason you guys wouldn't get caught. No, you'd be the absolute reason. You would, you would get, it's something you'd get in the way. It would be, I can't have you driving. I can't have you in there.


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[Assistant] We don't want her to- Hey, there's nothing wrong with having the- the house-


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I think we will. Yes, I'm a very generous guy, so I do want to always split everything equally. But I think me and Aaron would eventually be upset about that.


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[Assistant] You think he really, uh, I don't know who says it first. I think maybe Aaron says it to me first. It's kind of crazy. I mean, look, I, he ordered pizza, pizza was there, it was hot.


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[Assistant] I had my soda that I like. I like, I get it dude. I get, I get, I'm not saying we don't need the guy. I get why the guy's there. Do I think he deserves? He has zero risk. Say we get caught, he's just a guy living in a house.


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[Assistant] And he, he fits the, you know, it's gonna be like, oh, you live alone, sir? Everybody thinks obviously he lives alone.


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[Assistant] So you want to be, it's got to be some kind of, it's got to be that kind of crime where you're stealing some money like.


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[Assistant] You would have to find, you'd try to find something that's, I would, I would definitely go to a smaller town and you'd try to go somewhere that's a little, you know, backwards, don't have all the technology that you would expect. And you go do something like that. That's where I'd fit in. I mean, that's like, what's that movie, uh,


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[Assistant] They do that. They go robbing banks in these small towns. Hell or high water. Yeah. Great movie. Yeah, it is great. They go to, they go to these small banks where it's, they, you know, I'm not, you do fit in there, but I, I just can't run the risk of you.


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[Assistant] You gotta be running in and out. You gotta be. I said the getaway car.


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[Assistant] The playing involves speed. There's no way that you're going to have such a great playing that you're like, so we walk outside, we sit for 15 minutes as the car warms up.


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[Assistant] And you do, like, there's all, you know, I feel like, I mean, is it, is it gassed up? And you're gonna be like,


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[Assistant] We just need to stop real fast. And then we would, after, after we would do the robbery, we would immediately be getting gas. No, I'd be getting gas while you guys are in there. Oh, it's only empty. I think I got time. I mean, you would be posting on Facebook. Hey guys.


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[Assistant] What? Any questions? I'm saying that's what you're posting on. I don't know. You're just on Facebook posting something.


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[Assistant] Hey guys, hanging out with everybody today, having some, you know, I'm just saying.


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[Assistant] There's nothing, nothing to be ashamed of, of having that house ready. That's, that's a respectable job. Respectable job. Uh, all right. Uh, let's do, speaking of dumb criminals.


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[Assistant] Let's go through some of these. Thieves used blowtorch to break into ATM, accidentally set cash on fire. That's what I mean, I'm bringing you into the picture.


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[Assistant] Uh, Walmart brought back Greeters in 2015 to combat theft after reporting it lo- it loses about 1% of its U.S. revenue or $3 billion a year due to stealing by customers and employees. So that's why the Greeters are back at Walmart.


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[Assistant] It seems that, yeaah, it's just, it's just, it's just another thing. You just don't want, you gotta look at like who's gonna be the problem. And if you just have enough...


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[Assistant] Poking around. You gotta do someone else. You always gotta be worried that an old person's gonna come up and go, can I help you with that? And you're like, oh god no.


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[Assistant] You gotta get the older people that are nosy enough to, you know, cause you get to a certain age, you get pretty nosy.


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[Assistant] And that's what you need. You need some, you know, some people that are like, Oh, I'd love to know what are these guys up to? I can't wait to see what they're up to.


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[Assistant] And they're, and that's, and that's all, you know, it's a good, it's a good thing. They like being around. They like talking. They like helping. Right. Uh, I get it. Uh, man suspected of an arson and vandalism in Ohio sent a selfie to the police because he didn't like the photo on his arrest warrant. Donald Chip Pugh.


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[Assistant] Texted police a photo of himself and wrote, here's a better photo, that one is terrible. Man, they just did me wrong. Mr. Pew told an Ohio radio station about why he went and sent a selfie. They put a picture out that made me look like I was a thundercat.


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[Assistant] Are James Brown on the run? I can't do that. There's the photo. That's funny. So, I mean, that's, you know, imagine he thought I look like a thundercat.


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[Assistant] And someone that he said probably laughed so hard. He's like, I mean, I gotta come out of hiding. That joke's going to be great. Like, you know, are James Brown on the run? They're like, dude, you have, dude, you have to call in, call into a radio station. Wow. Uh, and did he go to jail? I think he got caught after that.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. There's also kind of a goofy silly one, the mystery pooper.


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[Assistant] Who decides to leave dirty toilet paper and poops in the bottom of holes. UPI reported Stavanger Golf Club a scenic waterside course and Hasford.


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[Assistant] Uh, Hasfordjord claims they have been finding poop in the courses cup since 2005. Wow.


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[Assistant] Uh, I mean, if you wouldn't play that course, I mean, it's almost like help the course. You probably gotta go play it. And then you're like, just to see if you find one. I mean, what if you go and he's not there, you know?


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[Assistant] You know, I, I, I was, I was at, uh, I was not there now, but I was at Old Hicker Country Club in, uh, very blue collar country club. It's, it was a great, it's DuPont Plant. It was in Old Hicker. I got married there.


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[Assistant] And now I'm at a different legends. And, uh, but anyway, so they, uh, and I've had, this is golf clubs. If people notice my hat, sometimes that's a, it's another club. I'm not a member there, but, uh, but they, uh, at Old Hickory, we would get,


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[Assistant] People would drive cars on the, uh, fairways and greens and do donuts. And so you would go there the next day and you would see just a green would be torn up.


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[Assistant] Because, and it happened over and over again. And, uh, I don't know if it still happens or if they eventually caught the person, but it was like trying to figure out, everybody's trying to figure it out. And it was very frustrating because just someone, you know, you're like, dude, he was just trying to golf and then a whole green is torn up.


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[Assistant] So now, you know, our 15 years, they've had to deal with, you know.


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[Assistant] Uh, alright, so the last one, I think I wanna, I wanna read a perfect crime to end this episode. Uh, which one of these is better? Do you know?


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[Assistant] Is that how you say that in Bermudian? Uh, man, that word, I got to the end of that world before my brain goes, I don't know if we know this word. Like that's what my brain said and I was already to the end of the word. I got ahead of my brain.


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[Assistant] I need to just say stuff and don't let my brain jump in. Bermudian Marine Explorer Teddy Tucker in 1955. It was considered to be the most valuable single object ever found in a shipwreck. In 1975, it was discovered that the Tucker's cross was stolen.


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[Assistant] Government officials believe the swap between the real and the fake was an inside job and no evidence supports the claim. Since the thief went through the trouble of making a replica, many speculate the job was done by an international art thief. Investigations were


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[Assistant] You get into, uh, that kind of thing would be the way to get into it. Uh, but yeah, I mean, that's, you know, I mean, where are you going to sell that? You know, I guess they know, but you're in those circles. I mean, obviously this is such a good thing that the guy did so good.


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[Assistant] That yea, you probably know someone, but it's like even if someone buys it, like this can't pop up. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And they sell it piece by piece. But what would be valuable broken up?


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[Assistant] Too much, as a first comment next week. How long are the podcasts? Do they stop?


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[Assistant] Yeah. So look, thank you guys again for listening. Uh, hope you enjoyed it. Uh, make sure you subscribe, leave comments, you know, do all the, do all the stuff that helps us out. And, uh, yeah, we truly appreciate it. Hope you have a great week and we'll see you next week.


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[Assistant] Record for the lowest body temperature, which an adult has been known to survive, is 56.7.


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[Assistant] I think everybody pretty much thinks they've already had it sometime. I feel like everyone I know thinks they had it in February before it even became a thing.


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[Assistant] Well, it's because he wasn't explaining it. The guy who wrote it explained it. And then it made sense. So, it's basically saying if you're watching Star Wars, all the Star Wars movies for the first time, if you go in, uh,


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[Assistant] The order they were released, no, I'm sorry, if you go in chronological order and start with, uh, the Phantom Menace, the prequels, then the big reveal of Darth Vader being Luke's father, you're gonna, there's not gonna be a big reveal cause you're gonna know it


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[Assistant] So, if you want to keep that big surprise, you can't watch it like that. So then someone said, well just watch them in the order they were released. But the problem with that is, uhm,


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[Assistant] Once the prequels came out with Hayden Christensen, George Lucas went into the Return of the Jedi and at the end when he sees, when Luke sees the ghost, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, Hayden Christensen has been placed in there. Do you guys remember this?


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[Assistant] So that can be confusing as well. So this guy who's just some software engineer in Colorado came up with the machete order, which is basically you watch, uhm, A New Hope first.


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[Assistant] And PowerStrike's back, and so you, so you see Luke, uh,


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[Assistant] So the third one you watch is Attack of the Clones. That's where you see Anakin as a young man, much like Luke was in A New Hope. And you see his rise to become Darth Vader.


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[Assistant] Alright, in Revenge of the Sith, that's the fourth one you watch. So go New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, then you go to the prequels, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, then...


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[Assistant] Uh, once you see Darth become, Anakin become Darth, you go back to Return of the Jedi.


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[Assistant] And kind of see how it, it, it finishes out. And then this was written before the last three came out. Then it says just watch those last three in order.


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[Assistant] I was like, I don't even know. I'm not reading any further. We're doing this one. This is it. Should we just start? I think we should. Alright, cool. This one's called...


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[Assistant] Uh, listener tales. My dead grandma saw me give my first blowie. Welcome to the show.


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[Assistant] Alright, it says, hey Deb Deb, you read that right, and hopefully I'm making it through your amazing gatekeeper skills. You did. You did. At this point, with a subject line like that, I don't think you really have the ability not to read this one. Again, you're right. Correct. And yes, sadly, it's completely accurate.


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[Assistant] If you're reading this, it's time for the standard poopoo in the- in the pantaloons and shitting all of the dicks. You guys can call me Claudia and feel free to use that name as it's not my real one. Hey Claudia! Hey Claudia!


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[Assistant] I also apologize in advance for the grammatical errors that I inevitably will make because this is a long one, but well worth it.


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[Assistant] I promise, and grammar is hard, especially with ADHD. Also, I would pud-a-fuh it if I could-a-fuh.


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[Assistant] But I learned back when you could do the cool palm tree border in printers made of rapid fire noises.


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[Assistant] The palm tree border. That was like the first computer class I ever took in like third grade. Wow. We did the palm tree borders. Wow. And I thought that was groundbreaking.


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[Assistant] But Claudia says I'm old and without kids to show me how to work this newfangled technology crap.


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[Assistant] I love that too that your first computer class was in third grade. Yea.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, cause you're 10 years older than me. That's wild. That's crazy.


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[Assistant] I'm a new member, relatively speaking. I found you not that long ago, but I work 8 hour shifts with you in my ear, so I've definitely been plowing through the episodes rather quickly. I do want to admit the first time I turned in,


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[Assistant] First time I listened for about two minutes to you guys laughing and joking and shut it off and went, nope, not for me. And I moved on. Trust the process here. I know I sound like a douche. You don't, you were going through it. That's fine. You didn't want to hear us laughing at you. Yeah, fuck that.


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[Assistant] But like, not talk to them. And I don't like a loud environment. Oh, this would destroy me. No, it stresses me out.


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[Assistant] But that's where you guys came in, and we have imaginary conversations all the time. And Ash, you and I do tell the same jokes often. Hell yea. I love how you both say fuck a lot. It makes me feel like I've truly found my family. And how you're empathetic and really care for the victims. I love the caution that you approach your listeners with, but it still gives the details that you know we're looking for.


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[Assistant] I mean, this is called morbid, am I right? Precisely. You're right.


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[Assistant] I truly feel like I hang out with my friends all day while I'm at work and I have to thank you for saving my sanity with what little there is left of it.


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[Assistant] I know. Okay, I think that's enough gushing, and I'm sure you want to get to the part where my dead grandma sees me giving a blowie, and hell, I can't blame you, it's a pretty freaking awesome story now that I, now that I don't feel the overwhelming level of shame that I did for many, many years whenever the memory popped in my head. Instant cringe. Ugh. That being said, if listeners have their kids listening, I'm like, I hope you don't.


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[Assistant] Earmuffs y'all. Earmuffs y'all. Alright, back to my story.


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[Assistant] My grandmother was like my mom. We were together all the time for most of my life and I was definitely her favorite. That's the best. When I was 17 she lived in Florida and I lived in New York.


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[Assistant] I'd recently moved back up to New York to be with my boyfriend because, you know, teenage hormones and shit make you do dumb stuff.


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[Assistant] You know, like when you'd be on the phone and you'd say, you hang up. No, you hang up. No, you hang up. And then you would end up falling asleep on the phone together because it was just so nauseatingly fucking adorable.


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[Assistant] Yes. Oh my god. Yes, one of those bad boys I bought with my allowance. Hell yeah. Take that mom and your dumb phone rules. Side note, those last two sentences, other than being complete run-ons, make me sound so freaking old. Yes, yes, yes, youngsters. I did happen to get my internet in the mail on a CD. Yes. You're speaking to Elena Sol, she's supposed to be talking.


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[Assistant] We were on the phone and I'm sure gushing about our pure eternal love or some crap like that. I started sobbing hysterically out of nowhere. I could not even get any words out. And it was to the point that Dave was terrified because he thought something happened. He thought something was happening to me. I was overcome with all-consuming grief suddenly.


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[Assistant] I felt my heart breaking into a thousand pieces and I could barely breathe.


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[Assistant] It was a dark, cold, snowy January evening when a huge flash of light illuminated the entire sky. So much so that my boyfriend on the phone, three miles away from me, saw the light and yelled, what the fuck was that?


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[Assistant] The crazy part was that I had no reason to think that's what was happening at this moment, but I knew I could feel her. Almost like if you've ever seen the movie Powder and he touched the deer, he could feel it dying, slipping away into darkness. That's what I felt.


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[Assistant] I felt my grandmother leave this earth and when that white flash filled the night sky, I knew she was gone.


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[Assistant] I quickly turned off my phone and just like I had, and just like I'd said two minutes later, the real phone rang. It was my dad who let me know that my grandmother had passed away at home in her bed. Wow. Wow, that's, that's just bonkers that you knew.


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[Assistant] The feeling and presence was so overwhelming that even he could feel that she was there. Hopefully she wasn't there to critique by technique, because holy heaven, did everyone else know that you're not really supposed to blow?


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[Assistant] When my grandmother originally passed away, the movie Titanic had come-


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[Assistant] Had come out right around that time. And the Celine Dion song, My Heart Will Go On, always made me cry.


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[Assistant] Fast forward a few years later, I'm driving like a maniac like I always did in my little geo tracker, which was basically a soda can with wheels and a diaper for a convertible top. So you know, really safe.


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[Assistant] One night I'm driving this death trap down a three lane highway that all lanes go in one direction.


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[Assistant] It's absolutely pouring but I'm still driving fast because I'm young and I'm dumb and I'm indestructible. Obviously. Suddenly Celine Dion My Heart Will Go On comes on the radio. It's been a few years so I just got chills immediately.


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[Assistant] It's been a few years, so it's not one that they play often, but still anytime I hear it, it brings me back and immediately makes me tear up and think of her.


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[Assistant] With tears filling my eyes and the rain coming down so hard I have to slow down a little bit and then the chorus hit and I really started crying and couldn't see so I had to slow down even more.


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[Assistant] There's a car to my right and a guardrail to the left of me, so with nowhere to go, I had to slam on my brakes.


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[Assistant] With the slick road conditions, I started to skid and he did the same and we both propelled toward each other uncontrollably.


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[Assistant] And I closed my eyes waiting for impact, but it never happened.


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[Assistant] He had skidded to a stop so close to touching that I could no longer see his headlights. You could barely fit a piece of paper between our cars but we never actually connected.


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[Assistant] Holy shit. If that specific song had not come on the radio at that exact second causing me to cry, forcing me to slow down, I would have plowed into him at 80 miles an hour in my little tin can of a car.


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[Assistant] You would not be writing this story. No way, and what a fucking shame that would be. Wow. That song in my gram bought me a few seconds and saved my life, and possibly the other drivers as well. Wow.


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[Assistant] Another instance with me driving down a three lane highway, there are a lot of them in my area, so it was not that crazy, and I was on them multiple times a day. But I was driving along coming down a hill with a bend to the left.


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[Assistant] There was a light that had just turned green. The first lane had a car in it, the second lane had an 18-wheeler, and the third lane from what I could see was empty.


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[Assistant] So I was coming around the bend, I couldn't see around the 18 wheeler, but went to go into that third lane so that I could pass the rig that was still just starting to get moving.


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[Assistant] The wheel was violently jerked out of my hand and pulled back to the left, keeping me in the second lane.


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[Assistant] I thought I hit something like one of those potholes that makes your car shake and your spirit leaves your body for a moment. Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] But no, I was physically not able to turn the steering wheel to go around the right side of the 18 wheeler. I slammed on my brakes trying to figure out what the heck was happening. Was my wheel damaged? Did it fall off?


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[Assistant] I ended up staying behind the big truck and as we just started going to go past the light, I saw it.


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[Assistant] But I know that my grandmother pulled the wheel from my hand and didn't allow me to go into that lane. Again, she saved my little troll up ass again. Damn, her little angel wings must get tired.


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[Assistant] Then again, a few years later, she saved not my life, but my husband's and an entire plane full of people. Damn.


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[Assistant] One day, I was driving along and I got a vision so strong I had to pull over.


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[Assistant] Alina, that's like one of her biggest fears. Yeah. So vividly he called me and I answered the phone and he told me they were going down and that he loved me.


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[Assistant] And was taken aback and jokingly said, okay crazy lady, I gotta get back to work. And he had to go.


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[Assistant] After we hung up the phone, I realized how I sounded like a raving lunatic. He still had many hours of work to go before he was able to get back into his hotel room, but when he did, he called me as soon as he got there.


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[Assistant] Once we started chatting, he did not bring up my cuckoo phone call at all.


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[Assistant] I think he was hoping that I'd forgotten about it or maybe if we ignored it, it would go away. Clearly not the best for relationships, but hey, we're human.


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[Assistant] It had been a long day and he said he'd call me in the morning before he was heading out. I barely slept that night because I knew the next day I was going to be a widow. Oh my god. You poor thing.


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[Assistant] I could only assume that's what he thought I was doing, as he called me from the airport that moment, or that morning, and I told him one last time, don't get on that plane. He told me not to worry, and that he would be home in just a few short hours, and I would see that it was all going to be okay.


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[Assistant] My husband has flown hundreds of times for work. He flies all over the world and planes don't bother him, even though he's been in one that's been struck by lightning before. How fucking crazy, I would never get on a plane again. But hey, that's me.


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[Assistant] I begged her with everything I had in me to watch over my husband and make sure that plane never took off because they were all going to die.


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[Assistant] I said, Graham, do not let that plane take off if you love me at all. Do not let it happen.


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[Assistant] Again, I saw all of it play out so vividly, and I saw him call me as the plane was going down to tell me goodbye. I knew it was inevitable.


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[Assistant] His flight was at 9.30am and I was a sobbing mess in my bed pleading with my grandmother to save him.


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[Assistant] My heart shattered and I stared at the screen not knowing if I was even strong enough to answer this call. Could I be strong enough to hear his final goodbye?


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[Assistant] Right before it went to voicemail I reluctantly answered knowing my life was about to crumble. I sheepishly said hello.


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[Assistant] My husband replied immediately and loudly, I will never doubt you again. What? Oh my God, what happened? He told me that as soon as the doors closed, he was filled with dread for the first time ever while flying. The plane began to back up and all the power shut off. Everything turned off. It came back on and they tried again. Seven times they tried to back up and seven times the power shut off completely.


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[Assistant] My husband flagged down a flight attendant and asked what was happening because he wanted to get off this plane.


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[Assistant] My grandmother did it. She made sure that plane never took off and she saved my husband's life and all the other passenger's lives.


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[Assistant] Wow. I have chills that are just like consistent chills. They're not going away. Wow. I know the first story was totally funny and embarrassing and I'm great.


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[Assistant] And I'm great goofing during that one. But I do get serious when thinking about how if I didn't have my guardian angel grandma myself or my husband might not be here.


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[Assistant] It really is, and I believe it. So those are just some of my crazy stories. Honestly, there's so many more, but I don't want to take over a total listener tales episode, although I probably already did. No, thank you for this. I love it. I've included pics of me and my fur babies. Mandatory, am I right? Hell yea.


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[Assistant] Don't read their names because people will know who my embarrassed ass is.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying them. Those are great names though. Yea, those are fantastic names. Those are great names.


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[Assistant] Thanks weirdos, stay weird but don't. Take it away, Ash. Uh, keep it weird but not so weird that your grandma sees you do your first blowjob because that's absolutely terrible and you'll never move on. I'm...


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I'm like, oh. I know, it's interesting. Damn.


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[Assistant] Alright, it says, hey Elena, hey Ash, first let me say, you bitches get me through my every fucking day. Hell yeaah. Hell yeaah. I listen to the podcast, love it, while I'm working and I believe with every fiber of my annoyed sick of stupid people being that the two of you are what keep me from punching people in the face daily. I love that.


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[Assistant] So thank you for keeping me out of jail and for the abundance of gruesome, horrifying, hysterical, what the fuck just happened episodes that you provide. Enough with the mush, let's begin.


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[Assistant] As you may have guessed, or not, I have no idea because I don't have a psychic fucking bone in my body.


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[Assistant] I don't particularly like people. I feel that. With the exception of a very elite few of which you are both included, so you're welcome. The honor is all yours. Honestly, you're part of my little elite few as well. I love it. Same.


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[Assistant] And I tend to not be a talker, so this shouldn't be too long. If you need it feels to be edited for content, please feel free to do that. It's all pretty relevant. We will not.


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[Assistant] I'll start this story by saying I have no fucking idea what the fuck I experienced. Love those kind of stories. I know, same. I don't know if what happened to me has happened to others or if there's a logical explanation for it. Any thoughts you have on the experience would be most welcome and I'm sure hysterical.


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[Assistant] Was sitting next to me, chicken scratch, chicken scratching in a tablet, probably making a list of things to do the next day.


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[Assistant] The bedside lamp was on and was the only light on in the house.


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[Assistant] Our bedroom was very small. Basically room for the never fucking big enough bed, and about a foot and a half of space around the bed to walk, and that was it. Don't fucking judge, we were just starting out. Hey, I feel you. I feel that, we all had that bedroom. Yeah, absolutely.


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[Assistant] So, we're in the bed, and at the time it felt like I was in that semi-sleep state where you're on the verge of sleep, but you're not actually asleep. Yeah, that.


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[Assistant] As I'm laying there, I saw at the foot of our bed a boy about 10 years old. He had a dark complexion and thick hair, possibly middle eastern.


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[Assistant] He looked in my direction a couple of times, but never spoke, at least not to me or that I could hear. Thank God he didn't seem threatening because I doubt if I would have been able to get my pregnant fattery out of the bed or out of the door fast enough, but I digress.


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[Assistant] Well, I was looking at the boy for some fucking reason, not questioning why or how he was there in my bedroom, because that's not at all creepy. You were pregnant. You don't question a lot of things when you're pregnant. You get a free pass at that point.


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[Assistant] Was to crank him in the fucking mouth and be like, did you just shush me? But then I thought, wait, is he seeing that kid too? Why isn't he grabbing him up and throwing his ass out the door? Be a fucking man and protect your pregnant wife!


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[Assistant] Throw that kid out the door. But as one does in these situations, I didn't do or say any of that. I simply looked back to the foot of the bed and continued watching this strange boy, like it was a perfectly fucking normal occurrence that we do every fucking day of the week. Next thing I knew, I was waking up the next morning. But wait, there's more.


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[Assistant] When I got up the next day, my husband already left for work, so I didn't get the chance to mention the odd occurrence to him. I shrugged it off as just a weird ass dream.


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[Assistant] For some reason during our lunch break, my coworkers, ugh, people.


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[Assistant] And I got into conversations about dreams. I shared the dream, quote unquote, that I had about the boy, and how very real it felt to me in my dream, and how my husband saw him too. They half jokingly said I should ask him about it when I got home from work.


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[Assistant] The rest of the work day was extremely hectic because my life is a shitshow and work is part of it. And I forgot all about the boy and my dream.


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[Assistant] I went home and started preparing dinner. Insert hysterical laughing because me cooking.


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[Assistant] Anyway, the hubs came home and he went straight to the shower as instructed, and then sat down to watch TV until dinner was ready.


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[Assistant] We didn't really have any conversation to speak of and as I said, I'd forgotten all about the boy and my dream.


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[Assistant] Out of the blue my husband said to me, You know this house is haunted, don't you?


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[Assistant] Side note, I can neither prove nor debunk the existence of insert entire mega list of paranormal beings here. So I'm on the fence. I just want to put that out there. Please read on.


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[Assistant] After a moment of surprise, I asked him, what do you mean? Why do you say that?


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[Assistant] If you just read that in somewhat high pitched frantic voice, good job, you nailed it. I'm gonna do it again. What do you mean? Why did you say that? Why?


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[Assistant] I meant to mention that earlier. And when I asked, ie interrogated, he proceeds to describe in great detail the boy I saw in what I thought was simply a dream.


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[Assistant] He described the boy, what he was wearing, the marketplace, everything. That's the other thing, I'm like, you had an entire portal open up in your house. That's the thing, cause like, I've seen, like, I believe that I've seen spirits before in figures, but never, like, the place that they're in, in a setting.


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[Assistant] Two other shared dreams from your respective perspectives. I've never had a shared dream. I was trying to say it three times fast but I couldn't. Respective perspective. Respective perspective. Respective perspective. Respective perf- fuck I was so close! But you have never had a shared dream. I don't think.


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[Assistant] I don't think I have either. I've had dreams that were premonitions.


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[Assistant] But I've never had a shared dream with someone. No. That I know of anyways. I am. Do you ever still think about the girl that wrote in the tale? Yes. And yea. The entire


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[Assistant] Same. Same. At least. Yeah. Ah, anyways, okay, sorry, let's finish this. If I am a fangirl lucky enough to get my story on a listener tale episode, please feel free to use my name while I bottle my tears of joy as a creepy memento. Don't worry, I don't plan to send them to you or anyone. I'm weird, but not send people I don't know my bottle tears weird. Don't keep it that weird.


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[Assistant] Please feel free to use my full name. It's Sheila Feather. Sheila! Sheila Feather is a cool name. You are Sheila Feather. Love. You're the best. You guys rule. I love your attitude. I could feel it. You added a little bit of spice and I love that. I love a spicy. And I also love that you guys don't get mad when I stumble over my words. Thank you. I love that.


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[Assistant] Because I want to say tinyurl.com slash The Butcher Game.


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[Assistant] I think you guys saw aliens. You saw an UFO. I think so. And I do feel like people's experiences with like sightings can be different because I don't think all aliens come from one planet. No, I think we're seeing all kinds of different ones. Yea, they all have different places where they live.


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[Assistant] Aliens. You just deal with it. You just did. You just, you just saw them. Deal with it, Betty. Yeah. I don't know how I feel. I'm very, I'm very in the middle of if I'd like to see aliens or not.


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[Assistant] I want to. Really? Yes. For like a hard 100% you need to see it. Yeah. Wow. I want to see it. I feel like we've had experiences. You don't want to see them?


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[Assistant] I'm not sure. I don't want to and I do want to. I want to see them but like not get abducted please. Yeah, I don't want to get abducted.


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[Assistant] We'll have to bribe him heavily. We absolutely will, but it's okay. I'll thank him. Yeah. Yeah.


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[Assistant] We love our Australians. Let's finish it off with one more. Let's do it. We have Listener Tales, The Disappearing Lady in the Ditch, and A Possible Spirit Stalker. Also, yeet! You're welcome, Ash. Thank you.


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[Assistant] That's wild, thank you. And it's basically the only one I consistently listen to. I tried listening to other ones, but it just felt wrong.


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[Assistant] And basically anytime I'm doing anything, i.e. cleaning out my car, cleaning the house, walking, breathing, etc. It's safe to assume that if I'm awake, I have headphones in and morbid is playing.


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[Assistant] That's so nice. I love that. You guys feel like the big sisters I always wanted, so thank you. We are.


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[Assistant] Below, I have attached a double-spaced Potipha for your reading pleasure. Even though I literally write creatively for fun, I am not a good storyteller, so I apologize if we end up bouncing back and forth a bit.


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[Assistant] So for now, we're sticking with this less spooky tale. Ooh, I want that one too. I want both.


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[Assistant] Hope you enjoy and my babble is not too chaotic to understand. Mama, I'm a Gemini, nothing is too chaotic to understand.


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[Assistant] And this happened recently, around two or three weeks ago, mid end of August. Though it's not my spookiest experience, it is my most recent. Let me start by providing some background.


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[Assistant] I attend college near my house and commute every morning to my classes. On this particular morning, I remember being in a rush. I had slept past my alarm, which in turn had thrown off the rest of my usual morning routine.


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[Assistant] I took a five minute shower, which I had not thought to be possible for me previous to that morning, threw lunch together and ran out the door.


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[Assistant] I arrive every morning around 6 to study for a few hours before my morning class. So it's usually still dark out when I leave in the mornings around 5.15. You could literally never catch me doing that morning routine. Early. I give you a high five.


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[Assistant] To get to the campus, I take a lot of back roads surrounded by corn fields and farmers to get there because there's less traffic and I prefer to avoid the congestion when possible.


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[Assistant] I drove past a red barn as I do every morning, and today there was a woman, clearly upset, with her, oh shit, with her car halfway in a ditch across the street from the barn.


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[Assistant] She was standing by the back of the car holding her phone to the air as if she couldn't get signal.


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[Assistant] I found this weird, even though we were in an area surrounded by cornfields. I always have pretty decent reception.


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[Assistant] But we probably just use different phone companies. As a young female, I've always been told to be careful in situations like this, as it's sometimes a tactic used to hurt or kidnap people.


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[Assistant] We've all heard those stories where a lady or a child pretends to be hurt and a guy comes out of nowhere and hits you over the head with something and you pass out or you die. Or maybe that's just me, since I watch Forensic Files with my mom all the time. But something felt really off.


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[Assistant] I passed her fairly quickly, speed limit in the area is 45 miles an hour. As I drove by her we made eye contact for a brief moment and I swear time slowed and chills immediately ran down my spine.


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[Assistant] My gut started twisting into knots and I felt an indescribable heaviness. I felt like if I didn't stop I would deeply regret it or something bad would happen. I got the terrible feeling that this woman was in danger.


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[Assistant] I quickly estimated in my brain that the probability of getting kidnapped, raped, or murdered if I were to turn around and asked if she needed help. She was the only other one out there, and I'm absolutely certain that there weren't any other people or cars. But just to be on the safe side, I decided I'd stay in my car, pull up to her with my window rolled down a slight crack, and ask if she needed help.


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[Assistant] I turned around in the big driveway of the red barn across the street.


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[Assistant] As I got closer to the ditch, I realized she and the car have completely vanished. That's what I would shit myself again.


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[Assistant] It was bizarre, as it couldn't have taken more than two minutes for me to turn around and get back to that ditch. An eerie feeling came over me, but I decided I was probably just paranoid and should forget about it. So I unpaused morbid and continued on my route to school. Everything that day went fine, nothing out of the ordinary. The next morning, however, things got weirder.


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[Assistant] Once I drove by the barn again, there was another car in the ditch. It wasn't the same kind as the woman had, and nobody was outside the vehicle.


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[Assistant] This time, I drove straight by it and didn't even consider stopping. My gut was screaming, NO, RUN to me.


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[Assistant] I'm not quite sure why, I just got a terribly gut-wrenching wave of anxiety. So I kept going because kindness is for dead people, and I have an exam that morning and I wanted to study anyways.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the theme. Yeah. Skipping to the end of that school day, my friend Peter always gets there to study with me and walks me to my car because we park next to each other.


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[Assistant] After class, we had walked to our cars and were just chatting, putting our books away, et cetera.


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[Assistant] When a white car with tinted windows and black lettering on the side pulls in and parks in the spot directly next to mine.


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[Assistant] My friend found this odd since there were tons of open parking spaces surrounding us. We park way out in the back lots to avoid all the congestion getting out. Yet this car chose to park right next to me.


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[Assistant] I was internally freaking out a little bit now as this was the same car that I'd seen in the ditch earlier.


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[Assistant] After that, I didn't see either cars, but weird things have been happening. The next morning I was loading my own car for school, lunch, endless piles of books, scrubs, etc. I typically have to make three or four trips back and forth, uh,


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[Assistant] Sorry, back and forth from my car in the mornings because I always forget things and I'm obsessed with being dreadfully over-prepared.


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[Assistant] Anyways, as I made my way to the car for the first time that morning, I noticed that the driver's side door was ajar.


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[Assistant] This was weird since I park in the garage and my father leaves even earlier than I do to get to work in the mornings. He parks right next to me and with the way that our garage is set up, he would have hit my door with his car if it were left open when he pulled out.


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[Assistant] It threw me off, but I brushed it off and assumed maybe I just left it open the previous day and somehow my dad got around it.


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[Assistant] Or maybe he needed something from my car and grabbed it before he left, forgetting, leaving the door open. I shut the car door and went back inside to get my laptop bag.


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[Assistant] When I came back out, the driver's side door was open again.


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[Assistant] I walked around the car cautiously, using the flashlight on my phone to shine under it.


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[Assistant] Slamming it shut and locking it this time, I went inside to grab my lunch. When I came back, the garage light was off.


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[Assistant] This is a fucking horror film. Yeah, it literally is. Feeling around in the dark, I found the switch and turned it on, only to find that the driver's side door was open again.


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[Assistant] At this point, I was quite scared, but also just pissed off. Oh fuck off! I found myself groaning to nobody in particular. I feel like you're annoying.


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[Assistant] I feel that I'm too young to be this over it, but whatever, I'm an old spirit. I yield something along the lines of, leave me alone, you most certainly are not welcome here, so get the fuck out, or I will get a shovel and a frying pan and beat you until you're dead twice.


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[Assistant] For example, a family friend was over and she fell, quote unquote, and broke her ankle. She was outside in the yard and she said she swore she felt a hand push her down onto the concrete.


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[Assistant] Her ankle was red and swollen from the way she landed on it, but do you want to know the scariest part? Yea. She showed me her side and there was a swollen red mark that looked like an inflamed handprint.


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[Assistant] I don't know what's been going on. Maybe I just have an overactive imagination or I'm thinking too much into it. But ever since seeing that woman in the ditch, things have been weird. And that's it.


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[Assistant] I don't think real names would keep the things that people are saying about me at bay at all. I mean, cause everybody would just agree with them.


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[Assistant] I think the Kentucky Derby was that day, wasn't it?


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[Assistant] It's like that OJ 30 for 30, everything else that was going on that day.


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[Assistant] You ever have seen anybody tell you you're smart and it seems like a weird, like, we weren't even talking about that, like.


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[Assistant] I called my doctor recently to get in for something. They're like, he's on vacation or something. But she's like, but Kevin could see you. I was like, oh, that's kind of, I thought it was very, she was being very loose with not calling him back. She's so close to him or whatever. But then I got there, Kevin wasn't a doctor.


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[Assistant] I didn't realize until I got there that Kevin wasn't a doctor. I just thought she was just being, she's so close with him that she's like, that's what she calls him. Then I got there and there's no MD in front of his.


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[Assistant] Nah, it's just Kevin. He wasn't even wearing a lab coat. It was just...


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[Assistant] I don't think I understand. They ordered it but just said don't serve her?


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[Assistant] Can you think of another famous person that, uh, had something crazy happen that never ever, ever did an interview or never ever come back in the spotlight? Cause he has done nothing.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I'm just surprised there's not like, YouTube video or Instagram people just posting, hey I saw Steve Bartman at, you know, Walgreens.


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[Assistant] No, but I mean people, other people I think would recognize him. Yeaah, you're probably right. Somebody. People that were true.


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[Assistant] It's just very impressive that he's never done an interview and never been back in the spotlight. Maybe we'll be the ones that get Steve Barman on here.


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[Assistant] Have you ever had anybody steal anything from you? Or been accused of stealing?


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[Assistant] Yeah, like you said at the very beginning of this, 10 minutes ago, you're like, yeah, people now are talking about you and Aaron.


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[Assistant] That, uh, the Pentagon's now acknowledged they're real. Not saying they're from outer space, but there's unidentified flying objects that there's video of made by Navy fighter jets.


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[Assistant] In fairness, every alien we've seen, they all look the same.


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[Assistant] Well, we don't know. They could be doing it all the time. That one kid, the guy who was in the back seat, who was telling the story, he lives in Knoxville now.


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[Assistant] And I looked him up. We have four Facebook mutual friends, so I friended him. And, uh, I think we're gonna become good friends.


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[Assistant] No, but I was looking at his pro, he's not like shy, like you always hear about these guys who get abducted, like I don't want to talk about it. He, he threw a party at a bar in Knoxville.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, I definitely like that. I, I mean, we go to these open mics and they're all Aaron's age. And I feel like we're the same age.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah. He... Well, you know Jose Canzaco, right? Sure. Yeah, he had a twin brother.


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[Assistant] It's just so funny because, I mean, he's so infamous. He had a home run ball bounce off his head.


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[Assistant] And now he's big on Twitter because he posts the most ridiculous stuff, but people retweet him all the time. I mean, some crazy stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I see the 7 day forecast and then I tune in, turn in.


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[Assistant] Well let me just share this. When I worked in TV news, they do 15 minute increments for TV ratings. So they would always say, do not hit the 7 day forecast till 10 tw-


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[Assistant] Are you talking about me? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. I left here or left to come. Well, I had to go pick up his iced coffee on the way.


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[Assistant] So that's another story, but uh, I go to my car and apparently I left my door unlocked and somebody got in my car and ransacked through my car.


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[Assistant] So luckily I didn't, I don't keep much variables in there. They just went through my glove box.


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[Assistant] I love the thought of a guy ransacking through cars and he pulls them out like, left handed?


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[Assistant] The trunk looked fine, I don't think he popped it, but I didn't, I didn't know.


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[Assistant] No wind is broke. Nope. Apparently I left it unlocked. So let's un-v.


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[Assistant] Well now he knows your sleep schedule, you're going to bed at midnight, he can just run wild all night.


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[Assistant] I didn't get stabbed, but I had, uh, I went, uh, I had, uh, basal cell carcinoma, which is the smallest form of skin cancer. It's fine, but they said it had probably been there for years, but it's on my neck and I had to go have it removed. It's not fun.


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[Assistant] I don't know about you guys, I don't like to tell people I'm a comedian because I just don't want to get into it.


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[Assistant] I don't like to say anything. The first lady at the checkout, she said, are you employed? And I just said, no, which has basically been true lately. And, but then I get in there and the, they're working on me and I mean, they're digging into my neck. And one of the guys there was like, so what do you do for a living?


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[Assistant] I was like, well, I'm actually a comedian. I always say I'm actually. It's like I'm embarrassed to say it. I said I'm actually a comedian. And then he's like, oh really? And he's like, uh, yeah. He's like, I was always class clown. I've been thinking about getting into that. And then he keeps talking to me about it.


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[Assistant] Said he majored in something else in college, just still thinking about getting into it.


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[Assistant] So then these other nurses come in and the doctor and he's like, this guy's a comedian. And then this guy starts telling jokes and borderline inappropriate jokes. I mean, there was a Viagra joke in there and it's so awkward. And this guy's working on me. The best part is though with masks. Well, you know, we all had masks on. It's great because you don't have to smile.


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[Assistant] I can't remember where it was, but the next day I went to like a subway or something. We're waiting there and I recognize somebody from the show.


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[Assistant] We're still there waiting and I said, Hey, were you at the Nate Barghetti show last night? And she's like, yeah. She said, were you there?


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[Assistant] Or if it's a state school or a state, uh, team, like the Titans, if you live in that state, I feel like you can call it we.


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[Assistant] These are the Brian Bates rules, but the Braves, no. I don't even think Memphis Grizzlies.


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[Assistant] What drives me crazy is when someone says we, when the team starts doing well, and then as soon as they start struggling, it's they.


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[Assistant] There was once, my freshman year of college, I went to visit my buddies at UT, and we were going to go to the UT LSU game, I think, basketball. And I brought my Vanderbilt jersey, I mean not jersey, shirt, just for fun, just to wear.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be funny for a minute, but just, why would you want to do that the whole game? And he was right, and I didn't wear it.


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[Assistant] But I was gonna do that. But I think that's what people do. They think it'll be funny.


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[Assistant] So there's this one guy who set the, he's had over 1,250 home run balls caught and he wrote a book on the best ways to catch a home run. And basically you gotta be able to knock down kids. I mean, that's the gist of it. He's called the most hated fan in baseball. They hate him because he'll do whatever it takes.


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[Assistant] But, uh, he says, get somewhere where you got some, some running room. Like, get on a concourse, get spread out, don't get where everybody else is, spread out, get some room.


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[Assistant] He doesn't do the foul polls. He says people congregate there for whatever reason. He gets in the power alleys. He's got a whole system down. Wow. What's the power alleys?


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[Assistant] He wants home runs. He caught Mike Trout's very first home run and he caught a ride's, uh, 600th, I think.


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[Assistant] The most home runs, over 1200 major league home runs.


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[Assistant] About 20 years ago, so I was Aaron's age. I went to a spring training game in Florida with my parents and it was the Braves and somebody and we were in the outfield and you could sit on the grass.


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[Assistant] Uh, I was, I was like 28, but, uh, we were sitting in the outfield on the grass and Andrew Jones, you guys remember Andrew Jones? The Braves? He caught the third out and as he would tend to do, he would turn around and just flip it into the stands. Well, this time he turned around and flipped it and it came straight to me and I caught it.


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[Assistant] And I was so excited. But then, this guy, there were kids running around, this man started going, give it to the kid, give it to the kid.


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[Assistant] Well, as soon as he threw it in the air, everyone's kind of scrambling, but like a t-shirt contest, but he came straight to me. I kept it.


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[Assistant] There was a dude who caught, uh, Mark McGuire's 70th home run, who at the time was the major league record, you know, for home runs in a season. He caught it. The Cardinals offered him some memorabilia.


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[Assistant] And, uh, he said, well I want to meet Mark McGuire. I'd like to do that for the ball. And Mark McGuire said, pass. I don't want to do it. So the guy didn't meet him. Didn't give him the ball. And he sold it three months later, that ball, for three million dollars.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he said, they said we don't negotiate. Which sounds like something to say to terrorists.


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[Assistant] Now not that one, that was the 62nd when he broke Roger Maris. This was the last one of the season, which they thought was going to be the record. And he said he obviously is glad he didn't because he'd rather have 3 million dollars.


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[Assistant] But, uh, he sold it for three million. And then the crazy thing is the guy who bought it, you know, Barry Bonds broke Maguire's record.


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[Assistant] But the guy who bought it also owns Bond's record home rent too, so he's, he's very rich.


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[Assistant] He would play people go down the line and just one after the other and play them all. You know what I'm talking about?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would say definitely most famous. But doing research on Poole, not even really considered close to one of the best. Just got a great name. Just got a great name. Well the movie- I mean that is-


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[Assistant] The movie The Hustler, uh, with Jackie Gleeson and Paul Newman was based kinda on him and, uh, that's kinda made him famous. But as far as great pool players, they're like, nah, this guy's not, not close to being one of the best.


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[Assistant] There's a guy in Kentucky, he's known as the best pool hustler. He was just this good old country boy and he would never play in tournaments because he didn't want anybody to know who he was. And he would just play these back alley games or stuff and, and just rack up against the world's best players. And they're like, who is this guy?


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[Assistant] And he sometimes, he'd have to wait forever for them to make him. Then finally people started figuring out who he was, and they wouldn't play him, and then he would just come up with these crazy, like, your advantage, like,


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[Assistant] You've got two balls left to all my balls on the table kind of thing. And he'd still be- He was that good. He did these bank shots that nobody could figure out. And he's just some country guy from Kentucky.


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[Assistant] And I try to take it and just like, kind of slam it down, but I hit the partition.


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[Assistant] Uh, Shannon O'Keefe's by far making the most there. She's made $61,000.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this, if you could choose, guy comes to your show, loves your comedy.


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[Assistant] Y'all become best friends for life. Everyone knows you're best friends. Michael Jordan or Luke Adonick, right now. Michael Jordan.


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[Assistant] You know what athlete I'm most surprised that you've never met and aren't BFFs with is Brant Snedeker.


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[Assistant] Never met him. Cause you know a lot of people, especially Vandy people.


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[Assistant] Well maybe they saw maybe a difference between you and an old lady. I don't know, maybe.


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[Assistant] That's probably more embarrassing because you probably fall down. Exactly. I got to participate in one of those in-game things at the Nashville Sounds game where you go out on the field.


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[Assistant] And this was, uh, I mean, I was like 18 or 19, so it should have been at my peak physical ability. And they had a board with a donut hole in it and you had to throw three balls through the donut hole. And they brought, they picked me. So I'm going down there on the field and I said, has anybody ever done this? And they're like, no, but we usually have old people. You like,


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[Assistant] And they had what they called, then they called them sound dads, basically Nashville sounds cheerleaders. And they were each holding the board. And I'm out on the field during in-between innings.


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[Assistant] And my first ball sailed over the board.


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[Assistant] And the sound out had a duck, and it whizzed her head, and I mean, the crowd did respond. Yea.


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[Assistant] Oh, did you tell, oh, do you want to, do you want to talk about great, the best play, or? He told his most embarrassing, I guess.


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[Assistant] What's your greatest? I don't really don't have one. What could you? Alright, so I thought about that. I mean, the only thing I could possibly think of is I play baseball.


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[Assistant] So then we go down the other team. Come back down, they throw the ball at me, I shoot again.


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[Assistant] The guy on the other team tipped the ball, like when I shot it, but somehow it made it go in the hoop.


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[Assistant] But, uh, I mean, I stole a base once and thought that somehow the bad guy fouled the ball back, and I ran back to first.


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[Assistant] And he said too, it was like a nice car, a nicely dressed man. You don't expect it to be, to get that weird.


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[Assistant] I hate that so much. It's also like, he walks in and says to his buddies like, holy shit, this just happened. They're like, oh, it's glove guy. If someone is visiting you, maybe tell them beforehand about this glove guy.


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[Assistant] And then just be like, you want some coke? Wait, did you just say that wasn't the darkest one? Is there still one left?


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[Assistant] It's actually kinda like the late afternoon currently. It is. It is.


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[Assistant] Mid-afternoon? No, like late afternoon. It's late, it's like mid to late afternoon. It's lafternoon! Woooo! But that's not good, because this isn't a show about laughing. Yeah, and also this case that I'm going to be telling you. What do you have? Is, we're going to be talking about the lipstick killer today. Uhm.


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[Assistant] This is a gruesome case. It's an awful case. Uhm, there is one child murder in this case that is very terrible, but I will get through it as fast as we can here.


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[Assistant] It's terrible and the aftermath of it, them trying to figure out who actually did these murders and if they're connected and which ones are connected and all that is the most


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[Assistant] Mind blowing extravaganza of stupidity you will ever witness. Fantastic. I love when that happens. It's infuriating. It's infuriating.


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[Assistant] And I don't think, so William Hirons is known popularly as the lipstick killer. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I don't, who knows if you'll think that at the end, but personally... The look in your eye tells me I won't. I don't think he did it. Really.


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[Assistant] And, like, do I think he was, like, a great guy? Probably not. Uh, but he was arrested when he was 17, and again, we're gonna get into all this, but he was arrested when he was 17, and he was kinda just like a little shit. He was like a little burglar, you know? Just a little shithead. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Like, maybe not a murder? Vicious, violent child murderer? Probably not.


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[Assistant] Uh, but let's get into it, shall we? This is going to be a two-parter because hoo. Oh no. Hoo hoo. Oh gosh. So.


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[Assistant] Let us begin. We are going to be talking about


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[Assistant] Which I know is horrific, I just want to prepare you ahead of time. Again, I'll go through it as best as we can. And that's all in part one? That is going to be all in part one and I think we will be getting more, in part two is going to be more the, uhm, when they arrested William Hirons and all of the wild aftermath of that. Okay.


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[Assistant] So we're in the mid forties here. Josephine Ross was 43 years old. She was twice divorced at this point and now found herself a newly widowed mother living on Chicago's east side. Oh, that's so sad. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Over a decade, she had been a stay at home mom, raising her two daughters, Mary Jane and Jacqueline. Aww, cute names. And she had spent all her time and energy on everyone else. You know, husband, daughters.


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[Assistant] But now that her daughters were grown and her third husband Herbert Ross had died, she kind of found herself like


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[Assistant] Josephine and her daughters, none of them found any faults in this lifestyle, like her dating a lot or anything like that. Like no one was concerned and no one was like, she's going out too much. Yea, she's just living her fucking life.


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[Assistant] In fact, in early June, Josephine had visited a tarot card reader


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[Assistant] And this tarot card reader had told her that her future looked very promising.


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[Assistant] And that she would likely be remarried by the end of the year. Oh.


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[Assistant] You know, what they, what they assumed was like medical fraud or something like that. Um, it was gonna be, she said it would be settled in her favor. Okay. So that was all good news to her. She's like, great.


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[Assistant] The whole life insurance thing was that she'd been fighting this case for like a year since Herbert's death because they claimed that he had falsified medical records. Okay.


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[Assistant] She was going to be like coming out on top on that. So she was happy because it was coming to an end. She was finally going to be paid out the insurance money.


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[Assistant] And as for the psychic's prediction of marriage, Josephine's boyfriend, Oscar Nordmark, had actually already proposed. Oh shit. Um, but she had yet to formally accept. She was mauling it over. Ah, what a queen. And later Mary Jane would remember how happy her mother seemed that morning as she saw both of her daughters off for work. Oh no.


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[Assistant] With her daughters out of the apartment for the day and really nothing on her calendar that day, Josephine was like, you know what?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna have a me day. So she changed back into her purple robe and decided to go back to bed and have...


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[Assistant] You know, a later morning. So relatable. Good for you. You know?


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[Assistant] Now Jacqueline, one of her daughters, returned home for lunch around 1.30pm that afternoon. She unlocked the door as she entered and she expected to find the apartment and her mother as she had left them earlier that morning.


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[Assistant] Of the career girl murders that I covered in my last case, you literally took the words right out of my mouth. Yeah, there is a little bit of like, obviously they are not connected in any way. No.


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[Assistant] There's some weird similarities in some of the case aspects. Yeah. Papers and other items were littered all over the floor. I mean it was a mess, like a bomb had gone off.


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[Assistant] And Jacqueline was obviously and understandably immediately terrified. So, but she was thinking of her mother. So she ran into the bedroom she shared with her mother and that's where she saw her.


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[Assistant] Nearly every surface around her mother's body, the bed, the floor, the walls, the drapes, soaked with blood.


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[Assistant] And Jacqueline knew her mother was dead.


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[Assistant] There are many times in this case where you're like, this is a horror movie. Like this can't be real life. How do you ever move on from that? Like how do you ever recover? Exactly. How do you ever, and it's her skirt over her head, like the daughter's skirt.


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[Assistant] That's so- Something about that just like ugh. No, that's so gruesome. Now Jacqueline called the police and they arrived at the apartment a short time later. And as far as Mary Jane and Jacqueline could tell, the apartment had obviously been ransacked and trashed.


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[Assistant] But aside from a few dollars taken from Josephine's purse, nothing seems to be missing, just like the career girl murders.


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[Assistant] So detectives were able to rule out robbery as the motive, and logically, just like in the Karoo Girl murders, assumed the murder was personal.


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[Assistant] I mean completely saturated and soaked with blood. The body itself looked like it had been washed.


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[Assistant] At some point between the killing and when the killer left the apartment.


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[Assistant] When they went to the bathroom and searched, detectives found that yes, the bathtub was partially filled with garments and bloody water.


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[Assistant] Now, when they removed the skirt from her head and stockings from around Josephine's head and neck, investigators discovered the actual cause of death.


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[Assistant] Aside from the sheer brutality of this entire thing, detectives found another piece of the puzzle that was strange and unsettling too. The killer?


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[Assistant] Had placed adhesive tape across the wounds on the face and neck


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[Assistant] As though they were trying to undo the damage caused by the knife. Wait, what? Like scotch tape.


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[Assistant] Oh, I don't know. I have yet to hear anything this strange and brutal. That's, I don't even know how to react to that. Like literally, this seems frenzied.


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[Assistant] Yes. A frenzied killing. Yes. Cause the ransacking I assume happened probably afterwards to stage, you know, or to confuse or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Who knows?


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[Assistant] This seems like a very frenzied killing, I mean stabbing in the face and neck and hitting with some object repeatedly, that's very frenzied, very aggressive, very wild animal-esque. And then to wash her?


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[Assistant] But not the surrounding area, just her. Just her. And to tape up her wounds. And to tape up the wounds. And then to wrap her head so not to see them. That's just.


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[Assistant] Of course, because like, what else is there? Like, and remember, this is the 40s. The idea of a serial killer was not something that they understood or knew or even was brought up. They weren't even talking about it at Quantico. The idea that somebody was


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[Assistant] Could've just came in here with the sheer want to just terrorize and like.


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[Assistant] I was going to say it was way early on. It was in the laundry room potluck. Yes, now I remember. And we, it just reminds me of it, like how he was like, he would do that weeping thing afterwards, but he was so brutal.


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[Assistant] And is just like a beast monster and then immediately like shoots back into like human body for a second and is like, what have I done? And just tries to take it back. No, it's so true.


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[Assistant] So along with the evidence discovered in the bathtub, investigators strongly believe Josephine's killer had been known to her and the murder was intensely personal, like you were saying, and the killer


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[Assistant] To be honest, like, like we were just saying, I can understand why they thought that. Like that's, looking back on this part of it, you're like, yeah, I get that.


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[Assistant] Fuckin' lunatics, so. Well, and especially in the forties.


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[Assistant] These kind of things would have been like, ding ding ding, this is definitely a personal murder in the 40s, cause they hadn't seen.


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[Assistant] All of the things that we have now seen in 2024. And so now we know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, lots of them do weird shit and like, wash a body. Mhm.


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[Assistant] Needs to be considered as a possibility that this is just a stranger who came in and is a monster and


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[Assistant] Or get the, you know, cover her face so that she can't look at him or she doesn't, he doesn't want the judgment. We've seen all these now, but in the forties they had not. So this is just like, this has to be personal.


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[Assistant] They were quickly identifying the most likely suspects that they at least wanted to talk to.


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[Assistant] Her would-be fiance, Oscar, and her on-and-off-again boyfriend, Chester Rice, were the first two that they looked at. Of course. Oscar Nordmark had an airtight alibi for the afternoon of the murder. And that's the would-be fiance? Yeah. Okay. Uhm, and his alibi was that he was with another woman. Well, you know, uhm, yeaah.


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[Assistant] And this other woman, Frances Saran, was able to say yes, he was with me at the estimated time of death.


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[Assistant] Alright, uhm, besides, while Josephine's daughters had never really liked Oscar, they also said they could not envision him ever hurting their mother or murdering her. They were like, no, we might not like him, but he's not that guy. Okay. Chester Rice, on the other hand, seemed like he could be a more likely suspect. Was he violent?


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[Assistant] They were on and off again, and although the two had carried on an affair at various points since first meeting,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and Josephine and Mary Jane had even, had even lived with Rice for a short period of time.


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[Assistant] The casual rejections though had been a point of contention between them for years, particularly in recent weeks. Oh no. Since Josephine had announced her intention to possibly marry Oscar. Oh no. This all moved Chester up to the top of the suspect list.


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[Assistant] Now, a friend of Chester's though, Louis Breitsprecher, I think it is, told police that he'd been with Chester at several different taverns on the morning of the murder and had been in a car with Chester Rice at the time of Josephine's death.


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[Assistant] Now aside from the two cleared suspects, investigators really had little to go on.


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[Assistant] But the janitor did report having seen a dark haired and well dressed man in his 20s or 30s leave the building by way of the fire escape. Oh. Sometime between 12 and 1pm.


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[Assistant] Another neighbor also saw this man and confirmed the physical description, though they had nothing really to add to the description. They just said, yeah, that's what he looked like.


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[Assistant] Later that afternoon, FBI agents in Chicago arrested 32 year old Lawrence Gates.


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[Assistant] While Gates was in custody, FBI agents believed he closely matched the description of Josephine's killer.


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[Assistant] And given that he was staying just a few doors down from the Ross's apartment.


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[Assistant] They contacted Captain Frank Reynolds to notify him of the potential suspect.


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[Assistant] Unfortunately it was quickly determined that Lawrence Gates was not responsible for Josephine's murder.


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[Assistant] And within a couple of months, investigators had exhausted all their leads. Like as soon as they brought him and they figured out he had an alibi, everything was checked out.


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[Assistant] So they're just back at square one. And without any new evidence or suspects in the Ross case, the press quickly lost interest in the story, which is- I'm sorry, what? And they moved on to more sensational news items. The press in this case will have your-


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[Assistant] News moves fast in a city like Chicago. And by the winter of 1945, most people had unfortunately forgotten about the murder of Josephine Ross. It had just kind of been pushed aside for newer things that were happening. So crazy that that really is how like, it works, how the media works.


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[Assistant] But her story would finally return to the front pages in December after yet another murder. This time of 33-year-old Frances Brown.


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[Assistant] Although she was born in Indiana, Frances had moved to Chicago in 1934 and she was working steadily as a stenographer when the U.S. entered World War II in 1942.


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[Assistant] Now like many young women at the time, she was very eager to support the war effort.


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[Assistant] And Francis's position with the waves required her to travel for training. And first she headed to Naval Station Great Lakes outside Chicago and then to Washington DC.


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[Assistant] When the war ended in the fall of 1945, she returned home to Chicago and happily settled back into her old sonographer job with A.B. Dick and company.


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[Assistant] Like she just literally came to Chicago, quickly got a stenographer job, and then was like, oh, we're entering the war? What the fuck can I do?


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[Assistant] Jumped in, went to training, traveled all over the place helping the war effort. And then once it was done, she was like, all right, I'll just go back to my stenographer job. I'm like, you're a badass. Truly.


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[Assistant] On the evening of December 10th, she returned home to the apartment she shared with her roommate Viola Butler around 9.30pm.


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[Assistant] When she got into her building, the doorman stopped her and let her know that a man had stopped by looking for her a few hours earlier.


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[Assistant] But he didn't give a name or say whether he would return. Okay.


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[Assistant] So she was like, alright. So later the doorman would tell police that it seemed, quote, she was expecting the call. So she was like, okay. Like she, like she knew who this person was. Okay.


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[Assistant] Once upstairs, Frances called her mother to discuss her travel plans that she had made for an upcoming holiday.


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[Assistant] She was immediately concerned because she found the front door of the apartment slightly ajar. And there was very loud music coming from a radio inside at a time when both Frances Brown and Viola Butler would normally be at work.


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[Assistant] So when Engels went inside, she discovered the apartment was completely ransacked.


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[Assistant] Just like Josephine Ross. Oh no. There was a large trail of blood on the floor leading to the bathroom.


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[Assistant] And it looked like someone had attempted to very poorly soak up the blood with towels, like clean up.