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[Assistant] It is, but I think the thing that, the thing that it's hard to compare is like, you know, in the case of being a tattoo artist.


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[Assistant] Would it, would you feel differently or would it be different to you if you had a couple of hundred people watching you work every day? You know what I mean? Like that, that's, that's the thing that we have that a lot of these jobs don't have, right? Like you could get into something like art related. You're really into art and then it becomes a job or whatever.


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[Assistant] That might not be the case if you're sort of doing it for an audience, right? Like there's that aspect of it that keeps things fresh for us, I would say.


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[Assistant] I wanna, I just wanna say one more thing on this topic. One thing that's interesting, especially with content creation and gaming and all that kind of stuff as well is, I would, there's certain games that I love to play if I know people are watching me play it, that I would not play on my own. Like a lot of single player games, for example like Stardew Valley.


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[Assistant] Like, I liked playing that knowing that I had an audience watching me play it, and I would go around and collect everything, and I enjoyed the game because of that, or partly because of that.


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[Assistant] Sometimes like, uh, when you're playing a game and you have people watching you, uhm, you're creating like a journey sort of thing that is an interesting aspect of playing the game that I don't think I would have a lot of the time just playing a game alone.


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[Assistant] Like uhm, you know, I played Skyrim a couple of years ago and I got this mod where you could collect all of the legendary weapons and display them in this house. It was like a custom house. And you could collect all of this shit that in the game normally wouldn't have.


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[Assistant] A place for, you know what I mean? I mean, even though you could make your own house and stuff, it's hard to display some of this stuff, but this mod made it so that you had a mansion that just could display all of the kind of achievements that you get in the game.


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[Assistant] Again, I don't know if I would have done that on my own. You know what I mean? I wouldn't have been as invested without an audience, but knowing that people were watching me like go through all this and enjoying it as well made me like enjoy doing it. You know what I mean? It's a weird thing, but it's a, it's, it is definitely a thing.


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[Assistant] There's probably some context, uh, where, where that is, is okay to do, right?


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[Assistant] If you're, if, if the overarching thing is like, kind of a documentary style video where you're trying to prove a point, and then you're pulling in a Reddit thread, and then some footage to make it. That's not what it is. That's not what it is, though. Right. I'd say that, I'd say that that's the only time where it would be okay to do that then. I found the thread.


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[Assistant] My son recently started watching Doctor Who and he's like, uh, he feels, I think it's one of those shows where he feels like a bit grown up, like more grown up watching it, you know, like, uh, and so, and for that reason, he, he, he likes it.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and for other reasons too, I mean, it's probably pretty good. I've never really watched it, but, um, he was on, uh, he was on our iPad the other day and, uh, he was on iPlayer and he's like,


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[Assistant] Dad, I just watched the first ever episode of Doctor Who and it was so good. I was like, wow, really? Like they have that on there? He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to, do you want to see like, uh, the start of it? There's this one part and I was like, yeah, okay, sure. And I was expecting to see like fucking old ass Doctor Who.


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[Assistant] I've never gotten any, any contraband. I've never had any, uhm, bodily fluids or clippings or anything like that. It's, it's usually just like, one thing I seem to receive a lot of is like old DVDs or like old CD-ROM.


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[Assistant] CD-ROMs for games, you know, like somebody will find like the CD-ROM version of a game I played.


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[Assistant] I was at Jesse Coxcon a couple of years ago and we did a panel where we were talking about


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[Assistant] Uh, we were trying to guess each other's age based on stuff that was relevant around the time we were like a certain age or whatever.


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[Assistant] And, uh, that, that topic just, you know, went, went off, off the rails, but we were talking about movies and stuff.


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[Assistant] And we started talking about the mummy and, uh, like I'd only seen like the first mummy and I didn't remember much about it. And, and Jesse was amazed that this was the case and stuff.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and at, by the end of the convention.


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[Assistant] I thought that was pretty funny. Mummy-a-Belia. Mummy-a-Belia, yeah. Tons, tons of mummy. Tons of copies of the mummy. So if anybody wants a copy.


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[Assistant] I think I was too old at the time to really appreciate The Mummy, like, I feel like when people speak fondly of the movie The Mummy, they were around the same age I was when the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie came out. Cause I remember that being, I was like almost piss in my pants, I was so excited.


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[Assistant] Back then more so than now, I suppose, you could rent games, right? So like, uh, it was always a big deal at the weekend. You'd go and rent a couple of games and that would see you through the weekend. I remember renting Contra.


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[Assistant] I was like, I was losing my mind. I was like eight years old, I think at the time. Um, but yeah, it was funny. We had like, we had one of those big, uh, CRT TVs that had like the, the wooden casing around it, you know, like with like the door knockers on it and stuff.


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[Assistant] And uh, that was in our living room and uh, and my dad hooked up the Nintendo to it. And that's, so you, you would, I would just be sitting there playing Nintendo in our living room with like my whole family just sitting around basically watching me play because it was such a novelty at the time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is. I read a, I read a Reddit thread recently where it said, what, what is, what like from your childhood, uh, signifies bedtime, you know, like, and people were, were guessing how old people were based on what they were coming back with. Right. Cause some people would be like, Oh, it was, uh, you know,


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[Assistant] I think that was mine as well, I think Ultima Online. I played, uhm, I played direct dial multiplayer games as well. I remember me and my friend used to play Duke Nukem 3D and Doom 2, like direct connect on the old dial.


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[Assistant] So yea, we used to play, we used to play those games direct, uh, connect. And then I remember as well, me and my friend before Warcraft 2 came out, they had the Battle.net edition of Warcraft 2, which came out later.


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[Assistant] So when Warcraft 2 was first released and uh, and had its expansion, you couldn't really, you could play it direct connect against a friend, whatever, same idea.


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[Assistant] But Microsoft used to have a service called the Internet Gaming Zone, which was incredibly a web service. This must have been in like 1994 or 1995.


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[Assistant] And you could, uh, you could create multiplayer lobbies on there. Me and my friend, we used to play Warcraft 2 Direct Connect and we thought we were really good because we only ever played against each other. We didn't know that there was other people out there that would be good. So we were like,


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[Assistant] When we found out about Microsoft internet gaming zone, we were like, holy shit, we're going to go on there. We'll team up. We're going to clean house, right? And that was our first exposure to really sweaty internet people.


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[Assistant] These guys had like these fucking, they had like bloodlust ogres up within like 30 seconds of the game starting and stuff. And it was just like, we were, we were immediately outclassed. Like it was just fucking impossible. So yeah, there you go. Yeah, that's great.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but then you could not just fall in love all over again, right?


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[Assistant] Hello and welcome back to Triforce Pick the Best of a Thing and argue about it.


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[Assistant] Let's go back to the very beginning, right? How do you know? We would be remiss if we didn't mention something much earlier, okay? At the very beginning. The internet. Fire.


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[Assistant] Now there's some argument to be had, yea, that it was the OG and therefore everything follows, right? But there's also some argument to be had that humanity didn't really even invent fire. Fire was kind of invented by our...


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[Assistant] Yeah, right. Mostly to cook food, right? They cooked food? Well, that's one of the reasons apparently, like, even our brains are this big, is that because we, we can consume cooked food.


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[Assistant] You get a lot more nutrition out of something that's being cooked. You get more juice. Advanced. So yeah, we won't, so maybe we won't do fire, just wanted to give it a little nod as a...


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[Assistant] I actually love pots. I've got a couple of pots that I've bought off like Instagram pot makers.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, I think Pyrenees is absolutely right, I think the ancient people were cutting down trees, I think they were, the bark was just coming off, and they, cause when you take the bark off some of those trees it's nice and smooth inside, I reckon they were quite circular, they were rolling around, I don't think the wheel was even discovered, I think it was just like, people were like already using logs to roll stuff around.


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[Assistant] I think, I think with these early ancient technologies, the first one really is agriculture, right? That's, that was the point at which nomadic, at least in my understanding, humanity sort of started to settle down. And you could see how that would be kind of an evolutionary process, right?


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[Assistant] I mean this is obviously a key element of humanity.


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[Assistant] Tribal humanity was incredibly violent. There's this idea that, you know, tribes are this tranquil glade of wonderful, untouched, fairy people who are beautiful to each other and swimming in pools, but actually they're very kind of, they're like, you see their behaviour in chimps though too, that are very violent to each other.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think so, there's a lot of books about it. I mean, I think I read about it, so okay, again, take it with a pinch of salt, but as far as I understand, I'm sure if I'm wrong, listeners-


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[Assistant] So look, I think what we have here, we need to move on before we get too stuck in the ancient era.


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[Assistant] Farming, I think we have farming, we have bronze working, which obviously was important.


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[Assistant] The invention of a calendar, which was, again, these are sort of evolutionary things where you, you can imagine no one really sat down and thought about it, like, too much, whereas they just noticed that there was seasons happening. It gets cold and then it gets hot. And so, you know, they start writing that down.


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[Assistant] Making the same innovation because of necessity. It makes sense if you burned a stick, it makes a sign on the ground and you can turn that into an arrow and you can use that to communicate.


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[Assistant] I just want to give a shout out to writing, because the important thing about writing is that it allowed people to transfer information down the ages, right?


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[Assistant] I think that was like a bit later, but I think also, I mean what we're talking about here is


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[Assistant] Mysticism is commonly one that we, that is like this ancient idea. I don't know why it's not in SIPs. Again, that's a good, you're bringing up a good one that's not here, SIPs. Mysticism. Because that is, that is a thing that humanity discovered and it affected us. And it also sort of provided


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[Assistant] Well I think that- But that is a big deal! No, I think you've got to understand that these pre- these humans were our same species. They did feel sad when someone- they- they cared and they- we evolved with-


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[Assistant] But religion has obviously led to this idea of, you know, sadness and loss and wanting to remember someone and wanting to revere someone who's helped or done good or, you know, and I think that in turn leads to this idea of, of, of mystic sort of thought, you know.


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[Assistant] Walls and, and, and bricks, houses, iron.


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[Assistant] Working, you know, wars. Yeah. Currency is obviously a huge one with, with, with, you know,


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[Assistant] And, and you know, how to believe, how to feel.


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[Assistant] It's this sort of era. Again, I think a lot of people look at this era as some, I mean, it's still a long time ago, and it kind of, it seems glowing, like in terms of how we look at it, right? We imagine Rome and Greece as these places with clean streets, you know, white


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[Assistant] White panel buildings but, and then it sort of goes worse in a sense, right? It gets worse, it goes all medieval and plaguey and everyone goes back to nights.


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[Assistant] They had a lot of emperors, so many that we're discovering new ones even now because, you know, they're, uh, they're, they're so-


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[Assistant] And so they, they did tend to, to do, to, to try and forget some of them. But yeah, this is a, this is a time that's not well documented. I think that's also an element of the Dark Ages. It didn't feel like there was like a lot of- Yeah.


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[Assistant] What are these, what are these core, oh yea it was in, in, in.


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[Assistant] So where do you think we have, what do you think are the big things from this time? I mean, obviously construction, currency.


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[Assistant] Yeah, maths I think is a good one. Let's go with maths. Maths. And uhm, and we'll move on.


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[Assistant] I think it's got to be the most, the most important thing. It stands out, doesn't it? I think philosophy and these things, you're right, like they're important. And, and drama and poetry too, like just kind of, but I think they are a continuation of what went before in, in, whereas maths feels like, I dunno, it feels like such a game changer.


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[Assistant] You know, for humanity to understand that there's these hidden rules behind the physical world.


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[Assistant] Well look, if we talk about this, there's gotta be some sort of idea of a bottleneck, right, where a civilisation can't advance beyond a certain level because they didn't have horses. And I wouldn't necessarily think


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[Assistant] Things that human labour or animal labour couldn't manage on its own, right? So, you know, like a crossbow is the classic example in sieve, or a lumber mill where they have these


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think we need to, we need to move this on a bit, because I think so much, so much important stuff comes later, but, but, we've got our choices here, I mean, the, the chivalry, of course, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's the idea of, yeah, of schooling and universities for the masses, right? For... I mean, not them!


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[Assistant] It's leading onto the removal of this idea of peasants and lords, you know. That's the sort of feudal image, isn't it, of 99% of the populace being uneducated serfs and the 1% that we hear about, you know, the Henry VIII's of the world, you know.


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[Assistant] It's crazy, isn't it, to think that that was the case. But it was back then, like, there was a very small proportion of the educated class who were


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[Assistant] I'm sure it's still the same. Hmm. So yeaah, I mean the medieval era is an interesting one to think about because as we've said, like it feels like not, there wasn't like a major turning point that seems obvious, right? Yeah. It's always depicted as being


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[Assistant] And you know, places like, like guilds coming up and, and merchant, the merchant classes, you know, as a, as an important part of civilization, right? That started to become a thing here where.


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[Assistant] I think, I think machinery is a bit vague as well because there was so much, I guess you could treat every single machine like the lever and you know, there's different types of, and I think it's not until we get to like steam power that we really have a big change.


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[Assistant] Holy crap. But, there is one as well in this era which is very stand out, which isn't on that list, which is the printing press. Printing is on there. Oh, it says printing. I didn't hear you say that.


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[Assistant] Powerful, and then also remember, gunpowder.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think you get these, I think that what really happens is though, I think we got science that drives things, you know, I think you can always say, oh, chemistry, physics, these, these, these, these fields drive.


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[Assistant] What people will say is one of the biggest breakthroughs because it was so crucial to mass, I mean, I guess it is part of the mass production element, right? The idea that you can share information widely, quickly with huge amounts of people and have it last for a long time.


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[Assistant] I think what we have here with humanity is an exponential sort of thing, right? Where initially there were very small amounts of intellectual people doing intellectual things and making progress, right?


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[Assistant] We've got millions of people on the planet who could be helping with this, right? Before the printing press, there were only a hundred books in Cambridge University Library and the average cost of a book was more than the average worker made in a year. Wow.


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[Assistant] So books were, you know, astonishingly rare comparatively and within 60 years there were


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[Assistant] Push the human species forward, right? It wasn't limited to the few people in their monasteries or manor houses who had time and luxury to think.


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[Assistant] Um, or, or make their lives easier, right? Everyone was able to start applying it to their own lives and, and do small inventions that, that improve stuff, which you still see today. You know, people are able to 3D print stuff now to, to like just, you know, make a, make like microscopic changes in.


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[Assistant] Again, it allowed more peasants to become fighters, right? Like you didn't have to train for years with a bow or be muscular or be, you know, or have to learn how to fight with a sword. You just pointed a stick at someone and pressed a button, you know, pull the trigger.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I think that's where certainly the Napoleonic wars came from. The wars shifted to this idea where, of total war, somewhere in the sort of, I think it was the Napoleonic, but where basically it went from, you know, major powers


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[Assistant] Fighting with 5,000 or 10,000 people to fighting with hundreds of thousands of people. I'm really just giving everyone in the, anyone was now a soldier, right? And they didn't have to, they didn't have this specific sort of soldier in class or


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[Assistant] Probably not. Yeah, this is, I mean, the two, the three big ones from here are, as you said, steam power, the idea that, you know, you can put this, put coal into something and it does the work of a hundred horses.


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[Assistant] And it's compact too, so it's, you know, you can transport it where you need that energy. I think a lot of people still argue about, and this is linked to electricity, right? Electricity is obviously, again, a huge like tool that is, that makes things work, right? You can transfer electricity across


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[Assistant] Hundreds of miles, you know, and nowadays anyway.


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[Assistant] And it enables you to, I think a lot of people measure.


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[Assistant] Electricity is definitely towards the late end of this sort of thing. I mean, you get steam power, then you get electricity later. And I mean, also you've got elements of other things, like other bits, like medicine. I think medicine is the other major thing that we should consider that isn't necessarily listed in this list well.


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[Assistant] Something that was a very, a real invention. I think invent, it's like steam power and it just, you feel like those things were invented, right? Um, and discovered and, you know, even harnessed.


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[Assistant] Yeah, as much as we think about things being gradual and everyone could have, you know, everyone could invent things, I've already sort of said that, but, but electricity was invented by very smart people at a time and used and really kind of, it was, I guess,


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[Assistant] It just feels so crucial, right, to what went on. I mean, yes, steam power was important and everything builds upon each other, but I don't know, it just, it's got that, it's got that, ugh, that element of


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[Assistant] If we'd had, if we'd invented different things at different times, I think this is an interesting idea to think about with other, other, it's that thing in, in, in, I can't remember what it's called, where.


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[Assistant] The, uhm, there's like these, these barriers which civilizations have to overcome to, to grow, to go into space or whatever, right? And the idea is that the great, the great, uhm, filters, they're called.


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[Assistant] So there's this idea that, that the, why, why, it's a Fermi paradox here. So why, when we listen to space, do we not hear any alien life, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, when millions of years has gone by and there should be some signals coming to us, right? Cause our signals are going out there now and sure they won't be there for, you know, tens of thousands of years, but.


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[Assistant] I'm not an expert on any of this, but I wonder like, if what, which of these technologies that seems simple in a sense now that we know them, would, or seem cultural too, like, you know.


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[Assistant] I, I, I haven't brought it up earlier because I, I, it was good, your list is slightly different. So we end up overlapping. We get more, we get more info.


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[Assistant] It is, but is it more important than electronics?


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[Assistant] Many of these technologies now are nebulous in a sense, right, these modern information era ones. We've obviously, we've skipped the idea of atomic theory and nuclear weapons and things, which was obviously a huge, a huge technological advancement, but whether or not it's actually good for the planet, god knows.


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[Assistant] I suppose some people think that actually with nuclear stuff it's, it's, it was convenient we discovered it.


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[Assistant] Death hanging over the whole of civilization, this idea of apocalypse, the first time humanity really could have destroyed itself, right?


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[Assistant] Absolutely, like, this is definitely one of those, the ideas that, that, that, that, it could have easily gone, and it still could. Um, absolutely, like, there's this, there's this terrifying, I'd specter, really, it's not disease that we're scared of now, it's, it's idiots, um, with a button. Yeah, so, but, but beyond that, like,


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[Assistant] We have this idea of future technology, you know, this, this rocket, rocket tree sending stuff into space, uhm, all the modern ideas of genetic manipulation, nanotechnology, robotics, satellites. The internet I think is, is obviously something more, you know, I think it is a step up.


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[Assistant] Your phone without the internet for example, I mean phones are obviously a huge, huge thing, but your phone without the internet is really not as impressive, right?


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[Assistant] It's amazing. It's actually like crazy changes.


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[Assistant] It's, yeaah, for the information era, for sure. I, I think, as much as I keep saying this, like, you know, humanity, we are the same organisms that were tribes, uhm, howling at the moon, fighting, you know, saber-toothed tigers, well, okay, not, not them, but, you know what I mean? We, we were the, we're the same Ugg and Mog.


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[Assistant] But, but things have changed. We have got, you know, this, this modern living and it's easy to forget the, the background support that we have that keeps us going. You know, the.


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[Assistant] The clean water, the medicine, you know, the.


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[Assistant] Is it convenience? Is it best for the most people? Because you know, I think that that is hard to quantify. Certainly medicine was this hugely important thing for so many people. It stopped so much suffering.


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[Assistant] The general idea of settling down, uh, but farming really and discovering that you could stay in one place. In the classical era we had education, schooling I guess. In the medieval era we had the idea of mass production, kind of blended with the printing press.


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[Assistant] Because that was at the same time. The Renaissance era has medicine in its modern form of sanitation, but I suppose eventually leading to vaccination and penicillin as well, which will lump together in medicine. I know it's not quite the same time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then the industrial era has electricity and electronics into the modern era. The idea of


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[Assistant] Of the, the starting thing, and this leads us into the atomic era of computing.


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[Assistant] I get that, I did get that impression. It's the visual, it's the visual, you know? Yeah. And I guess the future version, that would be like Futurama, you know, that's where we're going, right? We're not covering anything in the future. Star Trek, maybe.


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[Assistant] That's a pretty good invention. Congrats to old uhm, what's his name? Al Gore. Who invented it.


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[Assistant] Wow, so you picked the first one, so let's pick the last one. I was gonna pick, I was gonna pick medicine.


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[Assistant] We liked Euro Trash for the wrong reasons, right? Well, for different reasons.


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[Assistant] Wow, I thought there was gonna be some sign or something that, or someone cosplaying, like, rip Lola Ferrari. No. The only reason I watched it was because there was a chance of boobs.


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[Assistant] Before too much. It is summer, obviously, and I've been like...


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[Assistant] I noticed a lot of people, some joggers, some just walking, obviously a lot of men with no tops on, which is obviously problem one but that's


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[Assistant] We've talked about that before, but how do you feel about the obvious lack of a bra when


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[Assistant] So my follow up to that is, how do you feel about the, like, thin, or sometimes even like, thick woolly jumper thing top that women wear, with no bra, because you can like-


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[Assistant] They're just flopping around. No, because there's like, because there's like nipple imprints. Do you know what I mean? Like bullets. Do you know what I mean? Like...


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[Assistant] I mean, I just feel like that's uhm...


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[Assistant] It's, it's, we can wear what they want, and I'm not taking their thing. I'm just saying, like, uhm, you know, I've noticed it a lot around Bristol, but I don't know if they're aware of it, and maybe that's the, maybe they are, and maybe that's the thing, I don't know, it's a complicated thing.


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[Assistant] I think sometimes you buy a top, I do this too, I buy like a t-shirt, and I realise that I can see my nipples through it, like, all the shape of them through it.


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[Assistant] And they, like, don't update bras very often, um, because of the difficulty of, like, getting one which is right, y'know. And so, maybe that's a factor as well, like, y'know, just not- when it gets really hot, you're like, oh, god, I haven't got anything I can wear. I had to go outside.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I'm a couple of inches below average, right? I'm 5'8", 5'9".


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[Assistant] So what I'm saying is that, I'm maybe like 40% the size, oh no, well like, you know, I'm like, I'm like, I'm nearly the average man.


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[Assistant] I have like a 28 inch waist, right? A very skinny waist. Which means I can't buy like, trousers. And also like, even like, um, even like shirts, I'm buying the small shirts, right? Which is the smallest size in most shops. Um, and I understand like, I just feel like it doesn't


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[Assistant] I know a lot of people who are my size or smaller, um, you know, and so, I don't think of my- I've never thought of myself as like a below average size man.


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[Assistant] That's a complex that I will address separately. But no, it's more that I actually bought some extra small shorts this week. How'd they fit? Right. Fuck's sake. They fit fine. Okay.


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[Assistant] You always wear the big, the big, no, I don't know. I feel like, uhm, that's a different side of things that I didn't consider, the shy side, like, trying to hide your body type. But, I don't know if either of you need it, or are like that out there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's, it's, I guess I'm also web because I was on holiday with, uh, Boba and she just was like,


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[Assistant] She just feels like she can't buy clothes from adults. It's always weird when you're, like, looking in the kids section of stores to, like, get your clothes, you know? And that sometimes isn't actually a problem because they're cheaper.


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[Assistant] This is one of those things though, people, when I go to a shop, none of the stuff that I want is available in an S, and there's only the L and the XL, y'know, like, for me it's like, the other way round. I guess it's your own experience, right?


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[Assistant] That hasn't happened. Uh, thank god. But, uh, it's only a matter of time, I'm sure. And, um, I'll just, if that happens I'll block them immediately. Oh my goodness. Why? Don't... Well, I don't, I don't wanna, I don't wanna...


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[Assistant] In an ironic way maybe. Right. Look, you know, you've gotta be able to laugh at yourself, so. Yes. I'm not against that stuff.


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[Assistant] I think, uhm, I spoke about this last week. I just, I haven't really, I haven't really looked at it in the week actually because it made me a bit uncomfortable, but I'll get back to it. Uhm, I've done very well this week. I've had like voice problems and I've booked myself in to see someone.


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[Assistant] It's not easy, uhm, and I guess partly doesn't really wanna do it, you know? Yeah. I'm not, cause I'm not hungry for a partner or anything, I'm not like, I'm not like actually that...


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[Assistant] Alright, let me just describe to you a couple of ones. Thirsty for Kirsty. I'll load the app. Alright, so the first one I've got here, the first line of her bio is, the way to win me over is, attention, smiley face. Okay? Right. Money.


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[Assistant] Attention, smiley face. There's a picture of her, her main picture is actually not a picture of her face, which is not really very common, because one of the main guidelines is like the picture, your first picture would be of your face. It's her from behind, on some sort of balcony, in a swimsuit, but it's quite far away.


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[Assistant] But it's a classic like her looking into the sunset pose. And then the next line is, a random fact I love is. So basically you have these prompts, right? You have to fill them in. And she's put, so she's put, the first one, the way to win me over is, she's put one word in there, attention, right? And stop, it's not really again what you're encouraged to do. Second thing, so a random fact I love is, that's another prompt.


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[Assistant] And just, again, done it as lazy as possible. Um, okay, so- That's hilarious. That is, that's good, that's- So I scroll down, and there's a picture of her from the front, looks like a nice normal lady, looks a bit like a, looks like she's a bit like wearing like a top that's like a nun, it's like a full black top, and she's got like hair over her shoulders, she looks nice, and then


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[Assistant] My simple pleasures is the third prompt. She's put three emojis. A sunshine emoji, umbrella on beach emoji, and a cocktail emoji. That's her simple pleasures. Right, okay.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right. No. And so, obviously she's, um, so I'm now supposed to pick one of these things that she's sent, right, and this is Hinge, by the way, and I'm supposed to press, like, heart on it and send, like, a message saying something about one of the, like, a conversation starter, about one of her


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[Assistant] Okay, well the prompt obviously was, this is what you're working with, you're working with the way to win me over is attention, a random fact I love is travelling.


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[Assistant] You've gotta pick one of these five things that she's put on her profile, the two pictures or the three facts, the emojis, the attention or the travelling, and you have to send a message which will make her send something back.


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[Assistant] Because that then gets someone to talk about something they know. Oh, I work here in the palace, I polish all the statues.


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[Assistant] That leaves, like, the creative thought in their courts, right? You don't want to, like, the problem was, you just mentioned volume, like, I'm looking through these profiles, I see someone I like, I go through that whole thing that sips the thought, right, in my head, because you can't help it, you know, what if we grow all together, you know?


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[Assistant] Looking like a nun that are not appropriate for me to send, right?


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[Assistant] I think, oh my God, you know, I have all these thoughts in my mind and then I'll have to then come up with something funny from working with basically nothing. Or I guess I can just go with one of these standard chat outlines that people use, copy paste over and over again, right? Which I don't feel like I really want to do particularly. And then.


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[Assistant] I don't actually know any, but I assume you can look them up.


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[Assistant] One. One and it worked. One and a, and it. You, that pick up line you used must be a gem. Oh yeaah. You should share that with the world.


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[Assistant] So, next one, she looks, her first picture is of her looking like, like fine. Like fine? Like fine, or just...


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[Assistant] Oh, I see, I see. There's this, okay, so then there's a, ah, I don't even know where to, let's just move on to the next one, sorry.


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[Assistant] Would you like to tip your, uh, your hinge date? No, it's nothing like that. It's all very, um, you don't get that much information unless people wanna share it, right?


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[Assistant] Again, it's kind of set up to not make you make those kind of mistakes, right? Cause there's no empty boxes, right? It's all prompt based. So it's like, you know, you've got this whole long list of prompts. You're like, oh, if we won the lottery, let's spend it on, and then you can write three-


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[Assistant] And then them finding, like, something, or rescuing a cat, and then, I dunno, like, turning into a cat. I dunno, doing the- there's a whole, like, there's a little journey, like a comic strip, within their profile. Which is always fun, but I've never seen it. Is it always fun? It's always a fun idea.


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[Assistant] Uhm, well you have to do something to stand out, right? On this.


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[Assistant] Because everyone is, I dunno how you feel about this, but there's this big bell curve of people who are unattainably hot, and people who are really ugly. Send her a picture of your big...


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[Assistant] Almost everyone in, a lot of people you meet and see, they're all in this middle ground, like 80% of people fall into the, yeah, they're, they're, they're, they're attractive.


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[Assistant] Well like I said, they've got a different kind of problem. They have to filter out... Everyone. You know, there's the people who get no matches and have to hope for one, and there's the people who get only matches and have to try and filter through who they actually wanna go out with.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I'm, and these assumptions, you know, it might well be that if they have an interesting profile.


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[Assistant] I genuinely do use ExpressVPN and, uh, I use it everyday. Me too. I'm online right now. In a world of things that cause anxiety, this is something which is reassuring. So, I'm, I'm a big fan. ExpressVPN.com slash trifle should get three months extra free. Love you. Thank you. On with the show.


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[Assistant] So here's someone, yeah, so here's her prompt, uh, if we won the lottery, let's spend it on, and here are the prompts. Travelling, or quit the job, or investing.


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[Assistant] What else are you gonna put? So, best travel story, uhm, this is Diana. First time I went to a desert, capital D, uh, spelled dessert, uh, it rained. Uh, crying monkey emoji face, shrugging emoji.


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[Assistant] Let's make sure we're on the same page about having an open mind for travelling to new places. What, I mean, sure, let's make sure we're on the same page about that. It's again the most generic thing.


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[Assistant] But it's like, I feel like every profile, almost every profile, is the same. It's like, I want someone who is excited, I'm excited for travelling, I'm excited for some sort of exercise, and I have a dog.


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[Assistant] Rarely do they have a hobby, even like, of any description.


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[Assistant] Do you know what I mean? Like, okay, first picture of her is with the dog. Uh, she's, uh, the way to win me over...


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[Assistant] Is to make me laugh. Right. Cool, we can do that. On my bucket list, seeing orcas travelling to New Zealand, staying in an igloo in Finland, Nashville, and skydiving. We're all on the same trip? No, that's on her bucket list. And then, this is an interesting one.


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[Assistant] Thing, I feel like it kind of, cause it's constantly saying.


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[Assistant] Sign up to premium. Subscribers get 11 times more matches and it's like, uhm, boost your profile for 24 hours and get, get 20, 20, seen by 20 times as many people and it's like, you know.


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[Assistant] I, I assume if you're good looking, you don't need to, right?


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[Assistant] Again, it's not like some sort of fancy algorithm like that. It really is about how much you do, and also how, I guess, uhm...


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[Assistant] I don't wanna go on a date with someone unless I'm like, pretty secure. Some people, like, I remember going, I remember going to, even going to uhm,


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[Assistant] There were one or two other YouTubers with us, and one of them at the time was on, uhm, Tinder, and he had a different date come to the hotel every night that we were there.


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[Assistant] It's lots of adults, it's lots of, it's lots of normal people.


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[Assistant] Disgusting. It is weird. Uhm, I've got a couple of weird things that I've got on the list here. The list? The list. Yeah, well Sam sends us a list of interesting shit that's happened. Does he?


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[Assistant] Uh, GTA V fan mod has modded in the jerry-rigged, uh, Ocean Gate Expedition Titan Subversible.


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[Assistant] Uh, a Twitch streamer shaved their head for 2,500 dollars only to have it refunded, or whatever, or like, you know, that's a classic thing, you get a donation and someone refunds it.


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[Assistant] But I'm sure he's doing alright, uhm, god, what else, uh... Give us any of them, anyone! Sure, the first one is, someone threw their mom's ashes on stage at Pink's concert.


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[Assistant] What do you think of this? That's a weird one. That's what she said. And then, there was, yea, it's a bit weird, isn't it? It's a bit weird, yeah.


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[Assistant] On Monday, Airbnb listed a real life Barbie Malibu dream house. Hosted by a Ken. So, uh, it's a... I think it's a viral marketing stunt for the upcoming Barbie movie.


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[Assistant] Well, but they're looking at how much money like things, like ever since the Lego movie, you know, everyone has been doing, you know, Zelda movie is now a thing because of Nintendo were like, the Mario movie has made so much money and been so successful that, you know, Zelda is the next biggest franchise, isn't it? This is it.


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[Assistant] Well, on this topic, interestingly, uhm, everyone, this is something that affects people on their dating sites, everyone who's South Korean...


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[Assistant] Well, who cares. Who cares? It's prob- it's prob- it's probably again one of these things that's like not actually that much of a problem these days. Uhm, well maybe it is. I watched this like-


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[Assistant] I don't know, I've not been very well this week, I've been watching a lot of crap on Netflix. I watched this, uhm, King of Clones documentary about this guy who was the South Korean, uhm, cloning, cloning man, expert biologist, and he was, like, not really ethically harvesting women's eggs for his, like, stem cell experiments.


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[Assistant] Well, I thought, I always thought that women only had a certain amount of eggs. They do, don't they? Well, maybe it's like, I don't know, maybe it's only produced for a certain amount of time. No, I think they have.


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[Assistant] Right, they might be quite small though. What, small eggs? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] So obviously what happened was this guy was disgraced, right? This South Korean guy who's doing all cloning and stuff was disgraced. And he kind of got employed by some high ranking member of the UAE because they wanted to breed these racing camels and 10 years ago they had this legendary camel


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[Assistant] Mabrakhan or something. He was like this huge, um, like gigantic camel. It was kind of like a freak of nature. And they wanted, when he died, they cut his balls off and put them in a freezer or whatever.


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[Assistant] Uh, so this camel, uhm, they'd be kept on ice, and they brought this guy in, who clones people's pets, kind of, just


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[Assistant] Apparently from the north to like, back in the day, the only way to get to the centre of Australia from the north was via camel routes, bizarrely. And so they have this kind of camel heritage, uhm, and a lot of people who know a lot about camels there, and so they had this like, ragtag team of like, South Korean disgraced


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[Assistant] I didn't realise they were all getting injured and stuff. Oh, terrible! But I guess it was like very early, like late 80s, that kind of lazy attitude towards safety as well, right?


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[Assistant] Well that's a, I think that's a perfect place to end. Shut up cunt. Alright, well that will end here. Thank you everyone for listening and enjoy yourselves. Have a good week. Yes. Be good to each other. Have a good one and stay frosty. See you next time.


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[Assistant] Hello everyone and welcome back to the Triforce Podcast with your three favourite hosts. The best, the hosts with the most.


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[Assistant] I think there's like a two prong thing here, and the thing is like, what happens is when you get taxi drivers or someone like this who spends their entire life listening to like talk radio, they all of this information that's constantly, and they talk into passages all the time, they're


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. Whereas, with tennis players, they've spent their entire life playing on a field, out in a tennis court, hitting a racket, not getting any educational information about the world, and therefore they have no fucking knowledge about how to behave as an adult.


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[Assistant] And nothing in wisdom or intelligence, I swear to God. I met, do you remember when I met that footballer, who, England footballer, what was his name? Fucking Kyle Walker. And he was the most awful man I think I've ever met in my life.


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[Assistant] When I did the Fallout 4 brand sponsorship deal, where they wanted to appeal to everyman, y'know, the FIFA crowd, the co-players.


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[Assistant] I know, but he's an incredibly dull and weird and boring man. And I was awkward with him, obviously, because, y'know, he's like, who's this fuckin' nerd making jokes about dwarves and things, y'know. He didn't play along, really. He didn't get in on... and he was just not a nice guy, y'know, boring, uninteresting. Well, not nice, like, actually.


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[Assistant] Actually, they seemed really grown up and they wouldn't like, slag off the umpire, but I feel like Kyle Walker would, I feel like he'd have an argument with the ref. Do you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Do you think that if you heckle a ref, that's likely to go your way on the next decision, or he's gonna spite you and vote against you again?


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[Assistant] The thing is, these pivotal memes that we know about are actually going around on TikTok. Do you know what I mean? Surprisingly, these quite iconic meltdowns from history are still pretty, they're still pretty, um, memorable even now. Yeah, yeah. So here's my question


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[Assistant] That is interesting. I guess what people could do, if they had enough of them, was just not to shut up, and they couldn't kick them all out, could they? Oh, they would.


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[Assistant] Anyway, I wanna talk about something as well, because, uhm, I saw something this week that hit the front page of Reddit, as it does periodically. Some, uhm, whistleblower. Military whistleblower. This comes out from time to time.


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[Assistant] Has, yeaah, has announced that there's, the US has, uhm, some non-Earth


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, okay, how do you feel about UFOs generally, Sips? P-flax. And when I say UFOs, I mean aliens, not-


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[Assistant] Well, how do you feel about it though? Like, do you, how do you feel about it? Do you think it's real, Sid?


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[Assistant] Because even since broadcasting radio waves, our radio waves over the last hundred years have only gone to about, you know, a hundred stars or something, or a thousand stars, compared to the entire galaxy. Might be more.


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[Assistant] Let's do this in another way. One evening, you step out into your garden, okay?


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[Assistant] Just as the suns go down, in the sky you see these weird dancing lights. Yeah. Okay? And it's like, you get your wife and she comes out and you look up in the sky and you're looking at each other and you're like, what the fuck is this? And you, what do you think? You know, what's your first feeling about that?


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[Assistant] I don't know, do the X-Files theme tune.


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[Assistant] Right, so when do you think the first UFO sighting was? Uhm, in history? In all of history?


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[Assistant] Miles out. Miles out. The first one was in Rome. Alright. People, there's Roman histories, and in fact, UFO sightings throughout history at every time period.


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[Assistant] What was the first UFO sighting in the US, I can tell you. It was in 1639, James Everill, James Everill, a sober, discreet man, so we're told.


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[Assistant] He was on the muddy river near Boston when he and two companions saw a great light in the sky. It stood still then flamed up.


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[Assistant] Um, like, globes, crosses, rods, like, a lot of things that they recognized as things. So, it was usually spears.


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[Assistant] Smokey clouds, like, like, like houses.


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[Assistant] There's like a thing called Willow the Wisp, which certainly happens, like, marsh gas, a lot of people talk about marsh gas. And things like that. And certainly in the fog, lots of strange things that look weird. Ball lightning is a thing that is a thing. There's also this thing called Fata Morgana, don't know if I've said that right.


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[Assistant] He kinda had this incredible effect on people, right? So for example, in 1909, there was a man named Wallace Tillinghast, okay? He told the Boston Hills...


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[Assistant] 300 miles from Worcester, Massachusetts to New York City and back. Three times further than anyone else had managed at the time. And really, in the real, very early age of flying, he was one of the only people who had a plane. And in fact, he didn't have a plane. He lied. It was no evidence that he ever had a plane.


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[Assistant] Uhm, no one saw him on the original flight, but in the weeks and months afterwards, two thousand people claimed to have seen him flying his plane on further flights between Worcester, Massachusetts and New York City. And he hadn't. He didn't exist. He didn't fly at all.


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[Assistant] So it's a very, very common thing. The other thing is, is, is people, once, once flying machines were invented, people kept, uh, blaming certain people, like, so people's, UFOs, people kept seeing UFOs in the sky, and they would start, before flying machines were even invented,


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[Assistant] This was stuff that was happening constantly. There was a guy in, uh, 1896 who saw two men peddling


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[Assistant] A slow moving light in the sky, 1000 feet up. Another man saw it land, came across it on the ground, and met some Martians who tried to kidnap him, however, he was the strapping fella in question, was too strong, and fought them off and escaped. Of course he did.


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[Assistant] Well that's what people saw as flying machines back in the day, and so that's what they saw in the sky. And then what happened after that was the First World War with zeppelins. The Germans had one zeppelin, but thousands of people reported seeing airships in the skies over their, uhm, over their... this was before World War One. But then during World War One, they actually did send a bunch of zeppelins over to raid.


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[Assistant] But this was the thing, like, once World War I and World War II happened, there was this fear, the skies were... Dangerous. Scary. Yeah, of course. Yeah, exactly. Cause there were flying bombs, there were silent flying bombs, there were VT rockets coming over...


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[Assistant] Culture, certainly in Britain, sort of created this idea of fear of the above.


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[Assistant] So the UFO, UFOlogy founding myths happened very shortly after that. In 1947, there was a pilot called Kenneth Arnold. He was an amateur pilot, but he was, you know, quite a sober guy. He claimed that he saw nine shiny disc-shaped objects flying around 1200 miles per hour


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[Assistant] And poor Kenneth Arnold, who thought he'd seen some secret military technology, seemingly wishing he'd kept his mouth shut, because two weeks later, a public information official in Roswell, New Mexico, Hello! Did the exact wrong kind of thing you're supposed to do when involved in a conspiracy to cover up the existence of alien life.


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[Assistant] And issued a press release saying that the military had discovered the debris of a flying disc.


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[Assistant] Uh, the next day over in Texas, someone higher up the chain of command, clarified that the objects recovered were remnants of weather balloons and radar reflexes. They showed the wreckage, which weighed only a few pounds, and was made of rubber strips, tin foil, rather tough paper, and sticks. Which doesn't sound particularly alien.


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[Assistant] Uh, but the US Army, they'd already announced they had a flying saucer, and trying to walk it back didn't work. So, it just continued to grow and grow and grow.


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[Assistant] In 1978, uh, there was another thing that happened, which was Jesse Marcel, who's a lieutenant colonel, told ufologist Stan Friedman that it was non-earth material, not earth, so exactly the same as what happened today, except this was fifty, sixty years ago, he said that


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[Assistant] This guy, and it was thirty years after Roswell, after this thing was debunked, a lieutenant colonel, someone who's actually pretty senior, said to a ufologist, ufologist,


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[Assistant] This is not of this world. And obviously this again spawned this huge amount of UFO


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[Assistant] Fever is kind of conspiracy theory, which is the book I'm reading. The book's called Conspiracy. I found it in the, uhm, airport.


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[Assistant] People NEED an expl- like you said, yea, people NEED an explanation, right? Because that's a tangible thing that we can do something about.


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[Assistant] Right, and we can take action on. If we don't know what something is.


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[Assistant] You've got to assume that if they've figured out how to get off their planet and survive in space, and they are, they are biological, that the, and if they're not, if they, if they've, you know, that's one of the human sort of ways that you could think that we would transfer ourselves into robot bodies to survive the roughness of space, you know. I think you have to, there's a lot of work and effort and energy


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[Assistant] Almost, look at how little we're spending on space exploration right now. Do you know what I mean? Look how much trouble...


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[Assistant] So do you wanna know where the man in black comes from? That the idea of these...


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[Assistant] And uhm, you know, these unmarked helicopters would fly around and do stuff, right? And so they became this kind of idea. But apparently...


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[Assistant] One of the things that was happening was the Idaho, in 1995, the Idaho Congresswoman Helen Chenoweth told the New York Times that the US Fish and Wildlife Service was landing black helicopters on ranchers' land in order to enforce the Endangered Species Act at gunpoint. She held hearings on it.


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[Assistant] And everything. So apparently this was the thing that was happening, these black helicopters were flying around in back country America, just to get out to these wild areas, I guess, and make sure that the-


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[Assistant] Like chemtrails are a bit of a... So the Bardemino phenomenon is the tendency to spot something more often once you're aware of it. And you see it all the time, right? Like, I learned about this thing the other day, and then suddenly I'm seeing it everywhere, and I'm like, damn, did I just gloss over this before?


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[Assistant] I don't know, maybe, maybe that's, this is what it says in this book.


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[Assistant] Yes, this phenomenon was named after them, because someone that's on an online message board heard about Bardeminerhof, the terrorist group, and then started seeing them everywhere, and wrote a story about their experience. I see. And so, right, it's called frequency illusion, that's a better way to say it, I suppose. Oh, okay. It's like one of these cognitive...


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[Assistant] Uhm, chemtrails is a classic thing though, planes always leave trails, but people didn't notice them until they thought they were some sort of psychological


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[Assistant] Well, the thing is like, what happened was, whenever anything big happens, there's always a small group of people. So this happened with the Soviets as well, right?


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[Assistant] There was this theory in Soviet Russia at the time that they hadn't sent a man to space, you know, there were still people who were resistant to that, right, in the same way that people in the US were resistant to the idea that the moon landing was real. Like, people just sometimes don't wanna believe.


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[Assistant] Apparently it was still a fringe conspiracy until 2001 when Fox News broadcast a documentary under the title Did We Land on the Moon, which was hosted by...


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[Assistant] But it's always, but the thing is about it that's the most interesting to me is looking at the history and just seeing how history repeats itself. There's always been credible people from the military, even fucking Buzz Aldrin was talking about it.


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[Assistant] Well exactly, that's the thing. See, they've co-opted that story, and that's what I had heard and believed. It's very easy for you to not check this stuff, and just to have it all piled on, and make it... And, I mean, the UFO community


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[Assistant] I mean, obviously some are like the Flat Earth, but you can see it in Flat Earth as something which is completely bogus, but yet the way they present it sucks a lot of people in. And you can just imagine that, you can use that as a template and be like, look, this is bollocks.


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[Assistant] They're doing it here as well, but with UFOs, uh, it's harder to say that it's definitely not the case, because there's no su- you know, it's like religion, it's hard to disprove it.


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[Assistant] Absolutely, and I think that the people who fall for UFOs, and actually believe it, are probably less...


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[Assistant] It's not the same, but it's easier to fall into, because even smart people, like, you know, lieutenant colonels in the military and senators, you know, also are believers, right? You can be smart and also fall for this stuff.


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[Assistant] Oh my god, that was the very first thing in this book, actually. The very first thing in this book, the first conspiracy theory ever.


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[Assistant] Is about some, it was in 1144, the first anti-Jewish conspiracy, and the Jews have had an awful time throughout a thousand years of conspiracy theories about them being behind fucking everything.


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[Assistant] Going around, and they were the new people in these villages, right, and then when something went wrong, it was like, let's blame the new people. The people who are the minority, or the people who were on the fringe, or the people who were doing their own different religion to ours, y'know. And as a result, they got this kind of...


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[Assistant] Night had borrowed a load of money from the local Jews, because that was the only person he could borrow it from. He went off on one of the crusades, came back, uhm, unsuccessful, and owed a load of money. So he killed the Jew.


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[Assistant] Um, to avoid paying him back. And was perfectly open about it. And he said, the reason I killed the Jew was because he had sacrificed this boy in some demonic ceremony. And everyone was like...


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[Assistant] And it's still, and he, exactly, that set off a chain of events that...


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[Assistant] He got out of it, because he blamed the Jew of being this, y'know, awful person. Right. A child killer.


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[Assistant] Uh, y'know, he, he, everyone started use, do it, basically blaming everything on the Jews.


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[Assistant] These kind of small effects have a ripple, right? And they get written about, and, you know, and people wrote these long treatises on how...


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[Assistant] How the Jews had done this terrible child killing, you know, and stuff like this. And so they kind of percolate and permeate through the centuries and they feed, they feed each other, right, as a reputation. You hear about this story or you read this book or someone's written this thing and people are educated that this was the truth. This happened.


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[Assistant] No, but what you're saying is that basically these, they use all these tricks, because if you're someone who is talking to someone who's a conspiracy theory nut, they'll say, well what about this? And you'll explain that, and they'll say, well what about this? And you're like, oh my god. Oh, I've remembered, I've remembered.


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[Assistant] Oh no, no, like some conspiracy theories are true. Like, like the, um, like, like US getting, you know, testing drugs on people, or, you know, doing mind control experiments with LSD, or like sending people in to do coups all over the place.


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[Assistant] You can see harmless ones, and you can see harmful ones. Like anti-vax, you know, not vaccinating your kids and then them diamond measles is pretty bad. Stuff like this. Like, you know, I think that we live in a world of these alternative facts, which is kind of abhorrent


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[Assistant] If your opinion is fa- an alternative fact, uh, then, uh, it's not really helpful to anyone.


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[Assistant] I think we've fixed conspiracy nuts. So when you see on the front page of Reddit that some guy has seen something in the sky or filmed something in the sky or has some lieutenant colonels come out, just know that this has happened before.


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[Assistant] Uh, and it will happen again. Yes. And it's pretty unlikely until, uh, I see the president shaking hands with a little green man. Or a woman! That I'm actually gonna believe in anything.


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[Assistant] Is it still better than the internet, or electricity, or printing press, though?


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[Assistant] I just think stirrups are still... Would an alien race that didn't develop stirrups have managed to get here, is what I'm asking.


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[Assistant] I enjoyed this airport book I bought, it's Conspiracy, a history of bollocks theories and how not to fall for them, by Tom Phillips and John Ellidge. Oh my god.


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[Assistant] I have to credit them, because, you know, I've read it literally out of their book. It's interesting. I've read another couple of books I can tell you about, actually, in the next couple of weeks. I've been reading books, anyway. I'll tell you about it next week.


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[Assistant] Which is, yeaah, it's basically like, uhm, I assume, I don't know why it's called girl dinner, but it is, it, it, well, the, the, the, the women who came up with the meme called it that. And she basically just has like a really shitty charcuterie board. So she has like some grapes, some carrot sticks, a bit of ham, and like a pickle.


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[Assistant] And it's just, she's just kind of making fun of, you know, when you see those really nice boards laid out with all the olives and the tapenade and everything just right. So she's just got like a really shitty version of that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I don't know why, it's called Girl Dinner, so yea, go ahead, that's the meme, I don't know why.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I should tell ya. I mean, at the moment it's just me and, uh, and, and young, Babby Flax the younger, uh, Mrs. F and the eldest have gone away for a bit, so, we are just, it's just us. Yeah. Uhm, so, it's very chill, uhm, we, we've not done anything else.


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[Assistant] Her feet come up off the ground a little bit, because she has to put so much oomph into it. Uh, but she's not a natural barker. It's quite funny.


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[Assistant] I feel like you've misconstrued my point about aliens if you think that I was excited about this. My point is, there are no aliens. I would be very excited if there were, but they definitely don't have. One of the things he claimed is that they have a ship the size of a football pitch. It's rubbish. I mean, it's just rubbish.


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[Assistant] Anytime someone is connected in any vague way with an institution, suddenly they're a reliable source. And this is a lot of the same people who think that the government is


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[Assistant] People put so much faith in these guys and they're always like, oh, he worked for NASA. It's like, in what capacity? NASA's huge.


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[Assistant] First of all, let's bear in mind, you are in Jersey, which is like a busy place.


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[Assistant] And you know the way on the website it shows you the screen and the front row and they're like adjacent. There's like 20 feet between the front row and the screen. So it was, it was a good time. We've been fully stretched out.


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[Assistant] Exactly, but it's also this whole, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Like, he's taken this logo, which some guy just recommended, but it's not even an original logo, it's just the letter X from some font.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he took the ex, uh, ex account away from someone. Uhm, they want to rename it x.com. You already had a brand.


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[Assistant] It's like, oh it's a Psyop, it's a false flag. They, they, honestly, there's a huge subsection of people that any news that comes out that essentially they don't like the sound of, it's a Psyop. It's to distract you from what's really happening.


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[Assistant] But all they do is respond to Elon Musk's tweets saying, oh my god, yes, Mr. Musk, uh, uh, step on me. Like they just fucking love him so much. So it looks like-


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[Assistant] In a thousand years, if we're still here, we're gonna look back in class. Wha-what were people doing in 2023? Well, we found a very old clip on the Wayback machine and here, look, donuts, yum. And you show that to a class of kids and they'll be going, hopefully, what the fuck were we doing?


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[Assistant] No, no one's clever enough to have come up with this. So good. No, exactly. Sorry. No, it's not. There's no deep state. There's no plot. We are just sinking into the mire of idiocy.


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure this is true of all of these algorithms, is it knows how long you've watched


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[Assistant] Peeling to kids, but in a way that parents aren't gonna be like, what the fuck are you showing our kids? TikTok is like, we don't give a shit. There's no adult in charge. Whatever some fucking maniac is watching, your kids are gonna see the same.


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[Assistant] Shit. And they're gonna see this stuff, and what does this, what does it mean to a young brain to see people, adults, doing this stuff and being successful? It means, oh, that's a way to be that is perfectly normal and reasonable. It's not. It's fucking bonkers.


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[Assistant] I'm worried when the top content creators are no longer human beings, which is definitely within a decade, that's where we're going to be. The top content creators will all be AI, just generating content day and night, just pumping shit out.


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[Assistant] When it first came out, it was like anti-society, anti-norms. So, it's weird because...


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[Assistant] Like, you're literally giving money to mega corporations by donating, they get a cut of that. Your eyeballs and all the adverts and everything, like there's nothing rebellious about TikTok.


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[Assistant] The idea of rebellion, even people protesting is being outlawed and like, oh, you know, shut up, still protesting. Like, we're moving towards an era where we are protesting less and less and less in the West, I think. You're seen as a complainer, or what you're complaining about isn't true.


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[Assistant] I-I-I wonder if it's just been sucked out of kids, this sense of rebellion has just been sucked out of-


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[Assistant] Exactly. I mean, if you think about the way dance music like started, for example, it's all very underground.


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[Assistant] So I suppose the question you've got to ask is, if you're happy for people to have those thoughts, because you can't control people's thoughts, what difference does it make if they write them down? Why does that affect you more that they've written it down?


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[Assistant] Never told you that they had these thoughts, but they still existed just because they've written them down. Essentially, materially, nothing has changed for you as a person. Knowing that someone out there has these thoughts doesn't trouble you. But the moment they type them out or write them down, suddenly,


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[Assistant] It's a problem. Why do you feel differently about it written down than you would if you just knew that it existed in someone's mind?


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[Assistant] But the danger of it is, that now that you're playing a character of someone who doesn't know you, and you have to impress them and win them over,


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[Assistant] We've never lost a recording, touch wood, of Triforce. Which is uncommon, cause doing this for a job, you always lose- We've had to have lost at least one, right?


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[Assistant] This is what Paul McCartney's doing with one of John Lennon's old tapes that he got sent, it's been all... AI apparently was used to bring back the recording, and they're releasing it long after his death. I think there's a song, though, that George Harrison said it was crap.


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[Assistant] Do you know what I mean? Like, it was one of these... I don't know if these posthumous things, much later...


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[Assistant] So with Biden, we're gonna have two ghost presidents. I mean, they're both on their last legs, it looks like. Pretty much.


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[Assistant] So, so last week, hang on, just to recap last week.


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[Assistant] Unusual. Uhm, and Sips answered it by saying he didn't care, but actually later in the podcast we found out that he did care, he just didn't wanna be seen as a crazy UFO.


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[Assistant] Which is fine. I think it's fun. I think a lot of this stuff, right, is fun to believe in. It's fun to think that UFOs are real. It's fun to think that there's some secret conspiracy.


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[Assistant] He wants to, yeah. There is uhm, there is like a bunch of theory, scientific theory around that kind of thing, which is how all this stuff gets started. It's like, scientific ideas half understood or half listened to, kind of thing. Where, if you do, you can like change, you can give mosquitoes a virus


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[Assistant] Reading success rate or something, so that will reduce their numbers over time like this.


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[Assistant] It draws you in, like, she uses charts and graphs and scientific language, like, you


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[Assistant] One quarter? But you think about that and then you think about spiritualism, like the amount of people I've met in my life who tell me some ludicrous nonsense about crystals and I laugh away at them in their face and then they, they like really offended by it and I'm like, oh fuck, I thought you were joking, I'm sorry. Do you know what I mean? That's happened like many times.


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[Assistant] Ordinary idiots can't point out where China is on a map, let alone dispute another ordinary idiot who has to prove that Covid was real. This is the problem, we're not equipped


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[Assistant] To counter these nutcase. Ordinary people are not equipped to shut this down.


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[Assistant] Like there is this sort of ability where, you know, uh, uh, someone puts out a press release and then after that, it's just sort of generally in the awareness. And if, if people ask questions, oh, when's the new Transformers movie coming out? Like someone, someone will know, right? Because they'll...


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[Assistant] The Transformers publishers don't have to reply to every one of those individual comments, someone else will say, right, some idiot will say, because that's a low, it's like a small enough information.


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[Assistant] Sounds like it's just a conspiracy theory you've just made up, Sips, but this is almost exactly what happens.


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[Assistant] So what happens is you put this podcast out, the ad agency can scan it, get a subtitle track and search for words that we talk about and then apply adverts that are appropriate to topics that we're addressing in that podcast, right? And it's done, Spotify is, oh I think it's Spotify, it might be someone else's ad network who


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[Assistant] It's probably quite a long bus trip. Um, it's a very long place. But do you know what I mean, like, so there's two factors I think, one is...


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[Assistant] It's, it's being done, this kind of next level advertising, you know, and, and the other one is, is I think the US people will get different. I mean, I don't think people in Germany are getting adverts for Wisconsin. Do you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] I want spiritualism, I did read a book about, uhm, premonitions, right? So in the, there's a book called, hang on, I have to look it up, it's called, uh, the premonitions bureau, by Sam Knight. It was an airport pick up.


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[Assistant] It's a little bit like what's going on now, with uhm, well, with a lot of things, like modern things like Black Lives Matter, or pro-trans, companies have to say they are, because if they're not, people assume they're the opposite, right? So it's like, why are Pringles not saying Black Lives Matter, they must be


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[Assistant] But it's because, like, we've had this personalisation, or anthropomorphisation, of companies, right, of like, we start, because it works for brands, they like to be your, they like to be your friend, they like to be someone that you associate with and you know, because it makes them so much more, I don't know, appealing and real.


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[Assistant] So after Aberfan, there was this psychologist who was interested in these sort of, these sort of psychic disasters almost, you know, where there was a lot of grief. You know, 116 kids died in a not very big...


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[Assistant] And he, he became fascinated with this idea and so what he did was, he sort of put a newspaper thing out and said,


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[Assistant] Did anyone predict this? You know, did anyone foretell this?


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[Assistant] And they're, they're like, you know, a couple of 400, 500 people wrote in, most of them cracks, you know, saying I predicted it, I had a bad feeling that morning. They told their story about how it happened. Now, of course,


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[Assistant] Two things. One, you know, there were a lot of these coal tips that were next to the town. They lived in the spectre of these giant coal tips that had slipped before and done these landslides. They were scary. So it doesn't, it, you know, it is totally understandable that some people would have been scared that they would have fallen. And that could have led to, you know, people saying, oh, I knew it would happen.


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[Assistant] If people predicted it afterwards, or said, oh I predicted it before, but I have no evidence, it's no good. So he was like, I wanna set up this bureau, and he worked with this science journalist in London who basically told people for a year to write in with their predictions.


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[Assistant] Uhm, they would, they would get it, get, get it, get it going, right? They would write it down, they'd find out if it happened.


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[Assistant] were, they, they had some really, really uncanny predictions, right? Like, Alan Henshaw, he predicted a plane crash that involved 123 people.


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[Assistant] And so, yeah, Miss Middleton, she was like this sort of odd music sheet, but she kept writing in and she wrote in about this, um, do you remember when, I don't know if you've seen it on, on radio or anything, there was when the, when the Russians had their, um, Vladimir Komarov went into space. He wasn't the first man in space. Right.


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[Assistant] He, he, it was like completely disastrous, like I think, what's his name, um, the actual guy, Yuri Gagarin, said to him, you know, you're probably gonna die. It was like, it was like, you know, and he, this was Soviet Russia, he didn't really have a choice. He went up, he was like, everything went wrong.


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[Assistant] Like, to the point where he didn't even know which direction he was going. But of course he was a great pilot. He managed to get through it all, get the spacecraft back into the atmosphere.


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[Assistant] It was like this heroic epic tale that Hollywood would have been proud. And then of course, the parachute failed on the way down, so he died anyway. And, you know, he is sort of


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[Assistant] You know, petrified remains or whatever were, were, were, were shown as this terrible, terrible, there's this terrible image of it, which I, it's just like, uhm, it's just like a, it's like a bit of molten lava or whatever. Uhm, poor guy.


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[Assistant] Sorry, Robert Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy. But again, Robert Kennedy being assassinated, so Robert Kennedy was, uhm, was his cousin? Was he brother?


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[Assistant] I can't remember, but he was, it was obviously, John F. Kennedy had been assassinated, Robert F. Kennedy was running for president, I think, or he was running for nomination or something. God, sorry, my history is terrible on this.


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[Assistant] It was, you know, again, that was, she was, in a sense, there are, like, indications that these people can be primed for these things. Like, like, it...


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[Assistant] There is news, there is fear, there is worry, there is, there is people talking in the newspapers about these people doing these things. And Robert F. Kennedy was very scared of being assassinated. And in fact, you know, a lot of the time his guys were like, don't go out, don't do this. And he was like, look, I've got to, I've got to be out in the crowds. I just have to...


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[Assistant] Roll the dice every time I go out. Uhm, and he was kind of...


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[Assistant] Um, in a vacuum, right? Yeah. And, and so, anyway, it's like, it's, but, but the, there were, it just happened again and again. It was almost, it was almost getting me. Do you know what I mean? I was almost like, is there something to these two people because they were consistently able to predict these events?


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[Assistant] Maybe it's just called a different thing though, if someone, like, you know, if someone is brought down in that way, you know, it's not so much...


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[Assistant] He was the most famous actor of his time. He was like the Tom Cruise of his time. I'm not even joking. He was a son of like an incredibly famous actor who was the son of a famous actor. He was like doing these


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[Assistant] And he had this plan and one day he actually changed the plan to an assassination. I don't know why he was like,


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[Assistant] And he was obsessed as well, he wanted to do it in the theatre. He didn't want to do it like, they'd made all these elaborate plans to go on. And so at the same time, of course, so he woke up one morning, he said, forget the kidnapping, we're just going to kill him. He told his conspirators, one of the other conspirators,


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[Assistant] He was, he didn't have an escape plan, either. He jumped off the balcony where he'd assassinated Lincoln and broke his leg. And that was how we got caught.


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[Assistant] Well actually he broke his leg and then limped away with a broken leg and then was picked up in a barn actually a little bit later, but he did actually, he did actually escape, but it was this whole like bungled thing, right? It wasn't, even though it was a conspiracy and they'd been planning it for ages.


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[Assistant] Um, it was an actual, actual conspiracy. The other co-conspirators were hanged afterwards I think as well. Jesus Christ. Yeah, when they got them all. It was this big deal at the time. Lincoln. So sorry, that's a bad example of a conspiracy that was just a lone lunatic.


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[Assistant] But of course, when they, when they found him in the barn, uhm, they just shot him to death immediately. Oh wow. So they didn't take him prisoner or question him, so we don't know what he actually said or had intended to say or his motivations on that last day.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so uhm, so that's, I guess that's again where conspiracies spring from, is that that's not a satisfying end, right? You wanna hear more deeper ideas, right? If it was just a lone lunatic, maybe the conspiracy theory would have blossomed, that I just told you, but actually that conspiracy was real. Uhm. Jesus.


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[Assistant] I know. And I can understand in somewhere like New York, with abandoned subway stations and stuff, having this, you know, actual... But it's ludicrous to suggest that there's some sort of network of these tunnels, like, you know, and people are, the mole men are battling secretly. Do you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] There's a guy who walks around in Bristol walking his ferret on a little lead. It's cute, but weird.


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[Assistant] And yeah, I think some people are just eccentric, and it's, again, I'm, we embrace eccentric-ness. I mean...


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[Assistant] So the problem is with this stuff is that it's all on a spectrum, right, of misinformation and sometimes that misinformation is harmless when one person's holding onto it, but when someone else is holding onto it, they


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[Assistant] Oftentimes I think is, and I've said this a lot, a lot of these guys in the street who yell religious dogma at you, they're trying to protect you from going to hell. They're like, they're on your side, they're like, I wanna save these people, you know, I'm a good guy. And that's, when you look at it from that angle, you're like, it's totally justified.


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[Assistant] When, when people start, you know, taking that to the next, some people, you know, you might say that's harmless.


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[Assistant] In the wrong hands, even like the most innocuous thing, I'm not saying the underground mole men, people are gonna start terrorising the planet, but, you know what I mean, like...


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[Assistant] That clearly it comes from sometimes a place of protection, um, and love, but it's, but it's actually damaging. This is just always, always gonna be a thing. And I don't think we, I think we're always gonna carry it with us as humans. We're always gonna carry these.


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[Assistant] It's probably better to just be a fake fucking conspiracy nut on YouTube than work in a call centre.


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[Assistant] And so it's kind of like crowdsourcing help, which I think is the way to do it. Honestly.


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[Assistant] All these amateur sleuths. Reddit has the answer, like, there's loads of, do you know what this thing is? Right. What's this thing in my food? And everyone's like, oh, that's Korean radish, or whatever. And you're like, oh cool, now I know what it is, I can go and buy it in the Chinese supermarket, you know. Yeah. I don't know what 90% of, there's a Chinese supermarket near where I live, and I go there occasionally. And I wish I knew what more of the shit was in there, cause everything I've


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[Assistant] That's right. It's been nice, but I don't know if I'm cooking it right or using it right.


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[Assistant] You know that makeup where it makes their nose look thinner and they look like a beautician at the House of Fraser beautician counter, right? 10% of people are that, okay? I'm not one to put people in boxes.


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[Assistant] Right? Like 10% of people on there, and I'm looking at like, uhm, people in my age group, right? So, you know, 35-ish, right? Is, is a few years younger than me, but, but, you know, that, that age, right? 35 to 39.


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[Assistant] Is my age group, right? And so it's like, 10% of people have, uhm, well, I'd say okay, 10% of people have that beauty thing, 10% of people are some sort of festival hippie, okay? They still love going to festivals in their mid 30s, they're into...


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[Assistant] A good thirty or forty percent, actually, so, like, a majority, have either children, or children surrogates, right, like a big dog.


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[Assistant] The reason I'm talking about this, we're gonna descript, so I'm just saying that, it's fun, but the reason I'm talking about it is because I see a lot of professional women, right, who are, you know, in their mid-30s, and they've got proper jobs, a lot of doctors, a lot of lawyers, a lot of people, a lot of NHS, like uhm, either like an intensive care surgeon, or like a uhm, or like a paramedic, and I was like, I was like,


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[Assistant] But sometimes they have their quite serious look on them, doctors, right? Because again, it's a little bit like when you're at school and you sort of forget their teacher's a real person, right? Because they have to be strict.


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[Assistant] It's weird, because I'm 40 this year, right, and so I'm like thinking, one,


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[Assistant] I don't, these beauty people who are like, you know, clearly, they're not looking for someone like me, right? The second thing is like, people who have dogs or kids, like, am I okay with that? I have to ask these, you know, I'm not sure, I've not had to confront this, you know, I've been in a relationship for the last 8 years.


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[Assistant] Because I think what's happened is, when I was last single, which was when I was about 31, 32, the...


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[Assistant] People I was dating were usually at the age where they were either thinking about having kids soon, like when they were 30, you know, post 30.


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[Assistant] And they weren't also necessarily as settled and professional, and now the women are like, they own their own house, and they have their own bakery, and it's like, d'you know what I mean? Or like, d'you know? And so it's like a whole different crowd, and I'm almost like-


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[Assistant] I guess like, I have, I don't have an inferiority complex, I guess, but I have like this-


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[Assistant] I thought it would be fun to try and see what happens. I'm very happy where I am, don't get me wrong, I'm fine. Well let us know how it goes. But uhm, I wish I think it's a good time to start.


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[Assistant] Right. So yea, you're kind of on your own in, not the middle of nowhere, but some outstanding area of natural beauty, where there's a lot of farms and stuff, but you're generally not allowed to, at least you weren't allowed your phone when I did it. It's the sort of thing where you had to navigate on a map through this place and then camp fucking somewhere.


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[Assistant] Oh, is this last weekend? Yeah, it was a heatwave, heatwave here in the UK. But it was fucking boiling. And everyone in another country who says, we don't have aircon in our houses as standard because it's not hot.


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[Assistant] Even those bags, honestly, weigh a ton, just empty. Those shitty old fucking bags, they're so crap.


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[Assistant] I think that's probably a standard list of stuff that they- because I remember doing Duke of Edinburgh in the fucking middle of winter, you know what I mean? Not on the hottest day of the year. I don't think I ever did anything on the hottest day of the year, like, we always did it in the most miserable conditions, where we were all fucking sodden, you know, trying to


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[Assistant] Let's figure out, you know, you've got your map in one of those fucking plastic bags.


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[Assistant] Jesus. Yeah, it's really cool. Anyway, it's really cool. That is, um, it's so cool. LightningMaps.org. Yeah. If when it's, next time it's lightning in, check it out. Go for it.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Fascinated. Well, what a podcast. We talked about Transformers. We talked about premonitions.


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[Assistant] We covered a lot of stuff in this podcast. And this whole time, Pyrrhon has been named number one Kim Wexler fan on our recording discord, so I can't get out of my head, flippin' breaky, um... Are you a big Wexler head?


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[Assistant] I've noticed this a lot, like in Star Trek as well, where people are supposed to be this


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[Assistant] That's a better than now thing, but they just do the dumbest things sometimes, and you're like, come on! And I know that you have to be dumb to like, get the plot forward sometimes, but it's such a bad way of doing it. I noticed, I've just been reading Wheel of Time, and Robert Jordan very sadly died in 2005 when he was on book, I think


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[Assistant] 11 was his last one and I read that and then I've started reading the Brandon Sanderson book and instantly Brandon Sanderson, obviously having read them all was a big fan. He did such a great job of like taking over Robert Jordan's style, but also sewing up all of these plot points that like, like Brandon Sanderson spends a whole book like fixing dead plot lines that


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[Assistant] And Braderson just gets a needle and he's like, fix this thing, fix this thing, and everyone starts behaving rationally and you're like, oh my god, it's just so satisfying all of a sudden to have people actually


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[Assistant] I would say if you liked Fallout and Skyrim and, and, um, you know, Oblivion and all the Elder Scrolls games and whatever, it's great. It's funny. It's a new, it's a new...