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[Assistant] Cause if he was like 19 in 2001 and the trial didn't go on until 2005 or so yeah, he was 19 in 2001. So then like 21, he was like 39.


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[Assistant] I think it might, I think the first, I watched the pilot like the first episode like four times in like the first week because it was so, it was giving layers.


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[Assistant] A few days before Christmas, Janelle Matthews disappeared from her home.


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[Assistant] I don't think it sounds too bad. It doesn't? Okay, good. It always sounds worse to me. No, she might wince a few times throughout this though. Yeaah. Uhm, I hurt a rib.


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[Assistant] Fuckin' illness that just spread around my fam, bam.


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[Assistant] But uhm, I got, yeaah, that's what, that's the thing, this whole thing.


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[Assistant] I've been taking so many COVID tests. Oh, we've been COVID testing like it's going out of style. Cause we've also been going to the doctors. Yeah. Yeah. It's been wild up in here. My nose hurts. We're close to being like knocking on wood here.


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[Assistant] We're close to being, we're all feeling like, decent. Okay. So I'm like, let's please just keep this going, but my goodness does my rib hurt.


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[Assistant] We love a manic purchase. Yeah, I think I was just like really frustrated being sick and I was like I'm gonna buy a bunch of ghost merch.


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[Assistant] I think I was just in my brain and it said, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy things to make you happy. It'll work until it doesn't. Just buy things until you're happy. Yeah.


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[Assistant] What's, what's gonna happen here? Yeah. More, more nervous. Yeah, I wrote a few things and I was like, huh, look what I just wrote. And she was like, what the fuck is this case? I was like, what's going on?


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is, uh, the case of Candy Mosler and Melvin Powers. Uh oh.


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[Assistant] They were fuckin'. Yeaah. They were also related. Eek.


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[Assistant] Um, but yeaah, so it all starts on June 29th, 1964. Oh, we're in the 60s. Of course, I love it. It's groovy, man. It is very groovy. And we, so, on June 29th, 1964, wealthy Florida banker Jacques Mosler


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[Assistant] So at the time, he was actually separated from his wife, Candice.


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[Assistant] She actually had moved to Houston, and she was just living a life of luxury on Jacques' dime. Ooh, which like...


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[Assistant] Police actually believed that it was a crime of passion, which made his wife one of the primary suspects.


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[Assistant] And it really didn't take long for the detective's hunch to be proven right. Candice Mosler was responsible for the death. But as I love to say,


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[Assistant] That was just the beginning. It was only the beginning. It was only the beginning. The scandalous and sensational trial of Candice Candy Mosler and her nephew turned lover. What a sentence. Oh, I hate that. Yeah, Melvin Powers was, it was one of those trials of the century.


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[Assistant] It was filled with money, power, lurid stories of incestuous sex.


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[Assistant] And Jacques' murder didn't necessarily start like American tabloid journalism, but it dragged it into its modern era.


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[Assistant] All of the details were outrageous and they were page turners. Oh yeah, it was like a blind item.


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[Assistant] So Jacques, he was born Jacques Moscovici. I did look that up and I gave myself a phonetic key. Look at that. He was born on May 5th, 1896 in Galatz, Romania to Jacob and Sophie Moscovici.


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[Assistant] Uhm, when Romanian society became like more and more hostile toward Jews at the end of the 19th century, Jacob and Sophie were like, you know what, I think we're gonna take these three children that we have and get the fuck out of here. I think that was a great choice.


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[Assistant] I do agree. Uhm, they wanted to move to the U.S. because back then people wanted to do that and they decided to settle in Buffalo, New York. Oh, yeah. Look at that. And that was in January of 1901. Now years later when he was about 12 years old,


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[Assistant] Jacques' parents actually ended up separating and he moved in with his mom and his siblings to Chicago and his father moved away and kinda like did his own thing in the Bronx. Just like dipped? Yea, sort of. Wow. I know. That's, that's not great.


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[Assistant] But yea, but yea, so now that he didn't have the luxury of being supported by two incomes, Jacques actually decided to drop out of school.


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[Assistant] So in 1915, when he was 19 years old, he decided he was going to change his last name because he wanted it to be like a little more...


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[Assistant] American, you know, I think he just wanted that. Yea, who doesn't? Me. So he changed it to Mosler and he moved again and this time he moved to New Orleans and he found work as a loan manager for a local car dealership. Pretty good job.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I love an alliteration. I do too. So let's go. Yeah, he opened it in 1918, uh, with the help of a small loan from people that he had back in Chicago, some business associates. Those people, you know, those friends. Associates. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] Now Jacques and Evelyn worked side by side at Mosler Motor Exchange and they were able to grow the company more and more, especially as automobiles became more accessible to people.


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[Assistant] And along with that came repossession of cars. Uh oh. On owners that couldn't pay for the loans they had taken out to buy said cars. Repo the genetic opera. Yes, yes, exactly.


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[Assistant] You know? So Jacques could have chosen to see that as a risk.


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[Assistant] But, like the businessman that he was, he saw an opportunity there, and he opened one of the first car rental agencies in the American South. Look at him! Okay?


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[Assistant] Now by 1930, Jacques' business smarts allowed him and Evelyn to move to a way bigger home in New Orleans. And just after they moved in, Evelyn gave birth to a daughter who would be followed by three more girls by the end of 1935.


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[Assistant] It's a lot of gals, so many kids. He actually ends up with a lot of fucking kids by the end of this and I just realized that. A lot of fucking kids. No, like a lot of fucking kids. Wow. Like, one, two, three, four.


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[Assistant] Seven, maybe, I don't know, a lot. You know, he's a fan of procreation. Loves it. Loves to procreate. And adopting.


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[Assistant] There you go. So by all accounts, his story was like kind of like the, well not even kind of, by all accounts it was the quintessential American story of somebody who came to America with nothing but used their street smarts and their fucking power and their gumption


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[Assistant] And turned it into boatloads of success. The American Drem. The American Drem, if you will.


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[Assistant] So by the, by 19, yeah, by the 1950s, the Masler Grund, if you will, had expanded and they now offered a ton of different lending products and services in Louisiana and in Florida.


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[Assistant] But unfortunately Jacques' success was built at least in part on the failure and misfortune of others. Because his company would offer high interest loans to borrowers with low credit ratings who were more than likely to default on those loans.


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[Assistant] And actually, this happened so frequently, which it's not funny, I'm just nervous laughing. It happened so frequently that one of his former business partners referred to him as brutal, inhuman, ruthless, indecent, and cold blooded.


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[Assistant] Here I am, being like, you know what Jock, look at you, get it Jock, go Jock, and then it's like, nah, he was like a fucking monster, and it's like, oh. Yeah, well that's just like one person's account, you know? Other people liked him, other people didn't. It's a real bummer.


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[Assistant] And I, I never defaulted on my loans though. Good for you.


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[Assistant] So like Jacques's kinda, you know, grim upbringing in business, the early years of our girl, not our girl really, but for the sake of the story, our girl Candy Mosler's life, uhm, they were a far cry from the southern high society in which her life would end. Oh really?


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[Assistant] So, she was born on February 18th, 1920. She was the fifth of nine children born to Lizzie and Lonnie.


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[Assistant] Stop. Lizzy and Lonnie, can we just? Lizzy and Lonnie. So freaking cute. I love. But sadly life was


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[Assistant] Yeah, so like everybody had to help out on the farm, even the kids. They had jobs like picking cotton, collecting all the eggs, that, the whole nine. Now tragically in 1932, when Candy was 12,


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[Assistant] So this meant that Candy's father was going to have to be the sole caregiver and the only financial support for the six remaining children in the house. According to Candy, the strain of being solely responsible for so much in the wake of such an incredible tragedy really caused her dad to have a nervous breakdown.


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[Assistant] And so he had to just like get out of there. He left the kids in the care of their maternal grandparents who were William and Priscilla Brannon and he moved away to a nearby town and just kind of like started over, but I don't even think he started over. I think it was more like.


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[Assistant] He just went there. He just went deeper into a hole. Yeah, exactly, like was alone. But I'm sure that caused like a lot of abandonment issues for the kids, you know? Of course. So any hope that Candy had that life with her grandparents would be any kind of improvement to the life that she had on the farm, quickly evaporated. Oh no.


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[Assistant] Pretty much as soon as she moved in with them, she realized that this was like at best a lateral move. Oh.


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[Assistant] When she was a teenager, she spent as much time as she could reading tabloid magazines, fashion magazines. She was just dreaming of the day when she could leave this small Georgia town


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[Assistant] But unfortunately for her, her grandfather, who was a Mormon bishop,


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[Assistant] And he had already chosen the man that was gonna make that all happen. Come on. In 1937, when she was in 11th grade,


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[Assistant] Candy had to drop out of high school and she started dating Albert Norman Johnson. He was 11 years older than her. Ew. And he had been handpicked for her by her grandfather. And I'm saying ew because normally that's like 11 years is not crazy in the grand scheme of things, but when one of you is in high school, that's too much. That's way too many years. And that's ew. And it's like, I don't want to be set up by my grandpa.


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[Assistant] Albert. And they did get married. They got married in 1939 and they ended up moving to Alabama. Okay. So random, right? That's very random. Yeah. But Norman got work there as a superintendent for a concrete company.


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[Assistant] Not like the best, but not the worst. The things were so different that it's like- Yeah, I don't even really know if- I wouldn't even know how to like, compare that. Yeah, exactly.


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[Assistant] So three years later, Candy gave birth to a son and they named him Norman after his dad.


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[Assistant] And at 20 years old in 1940, she was a married mom living in a rented house in small town Alabama. She didn't have a lot of friends. She was worlds away from where she had pictured herself so many years earlier.


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[Assistant] And this was a far cry from what she'd been hoping for. Yeaah. Like, she wanted to live a glamorous life.


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[Assistant] She wanted to like, be fashionable and all this stuff. Get out of the small town living kind of thing. Yeaah. Yeaah. It just sucked. And then between the age gap and how different they both were, Norman and Candy also just really didn't have a lot to talk about. Yeaah. They didn't share anything in common really. And


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[Assistant] All they really had together was a kid, so they'd be like, hey, how's the kid? But that can only go so far. You know?


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[Assistant] And on top of that, Candy didn't have really any social outlet, so she felt completely isolated, and kinda like her life was just passing before her eyes, when at the same time, it really hadn't started. It was just dragging. You know? Yeah.


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[Assistant] She had joined this USO a few months earlier, and this was when the US entered into World War I. And in March of 1942,


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[Assistant] She and about a hundred other young ladies, they were shuttled off to Alabama to entertain the troops at a USO dance at Fort Benning.


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[Assistant] This is all very forties. I love it so fucking much. I can picture it. It's literally the beginning of Memphis Belle. I love that. Yeah. Memphis Belle.


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[Assistant] I think of that song that always plays on those kind of things that's like, don't sit under the apple tree with anyone else but me. Oh my god. Anyone else but me. I love that. I don't know if I know that song. It's, it's a very like three sisters are always singing it in harmony together. So we just need one more go. We just need it.


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[Assistant] Well, it was there that Candy met a man named Winthrop Win Rockefeller. Yeah. Yeah, she did. And she said, work me off a piece of that. She said Winthrop. She said Win.


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[Assistant] Count me in. He was a U.S. Army, huh? That was funny. He was a U.S. Army Sergeant and he was heir to a Rockefeller fortune. Oh yea, you hear Rockefeller? It's like, I don't even care what you look like, I'm in.


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[Assistant] Just kidding. Uhm, and as luck would have it, he was stationed at Fort Benning. Oh my god. So Candy claimed that the two carried on an illicit affair. She visited Fort Benning every chance she could.


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[Assistant] And she did end up becoming pregnant. That's an affair. That's an affair. And she eventually gave birth to a daughter who she named Candice Rita Johnson. Cute. I don't know if Norman, uhm, knew.


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[Assistant] She named her daughter Candice after herself. So much Killmore Girls. I think it might come up later too.


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[Assistant] Now there is some speculation on whether this affair actually happened or not, because like, Rockefeller, like, everybody says they fucked a Rockefeller, you know?


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[Assistant] But either way, Candian Nguyen would have had to part ways in January of 1944 because at that point he was shipped off to the Pacific to actually serve in combat.


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[Assistant] So in 1945, Candi and Norman, who she was now stuck with, and who definitely thought that the newest pregnancy was something that he was a part of, Yeah, they relocated to New Orleans. But after a year or so, their marriage finally crumbled. I could see that. Yeah, you know?


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[Assistant] So it's really just like, nah. Yeaah, it was just kinda lame. Yeaah, she's like, you win some, you lose some. And he's just like, alright. And he's like, okey dokey. Yeaah, I am old, so, there is that. We actually have nothing in common and you're kind of a lot, so, bye. Yeaah, you're a lot to handle.


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[Assistant] I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. We host the hit show Morbid. Normally we focus on what happens in the lead up to death, but this time, it's about what happens next. If you had the chance to be brought back to life hundreds of years in the future, would you take it?


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[Assistant] So after the divorce, Norman ended up moving to Colorado and Candy and the children stayed in New Orleans where she was determined to make a career for herself as a fashion model. Oh, look at that. And she did actually start appearing in ads for local clothing stores. So like she started doing the thing.


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[Assistant] And then she went to New York on like a, just a little trip and she got super inspired when she was there because while she was there she was able to take some classes at the Barbizon School of Modeling. Oh, we've had that one before. She makes an appearance again. So then she comes home and she's like, okay, idea.


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[Assistant] The garden district is like the, that's where all those like beautiful houses are.


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[Assistant] That's where the, I think that's where the like, uhm, AHS cabin house is.


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[Assistant] That's where Lafayette Cemetery is, like, ooh, okay, so garden districts. She did that.


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[Assistant] She did that. Hell yea, she did. Also like copy paste much, candy, you know. No, it's true. TM. It's like get your own idea. Exactly. But I mean there's lots of modeling schools, so whatever. That's true. But in local ads- I'm just mad at her because I feel like she did something wrong.


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[Assistant] Perhaps. But that's bad enough, I'll take that as the wrong thing. There you go. So yea, fuck that, you copy and paste it. Yea, don't copy paste.


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[Assistant] You're gonna beat them down so they think that they're confident. Yeah. Oh cool.


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[Assistant] Not cool at all. I see right fucking through you, Candy. Fuck you, Candy. Fuck you, man. She's dead now, so we should be careful.


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[Assistant] You don't like haunts. You don't wanna like rise her from the dead. No I do not. I'm good. Now the school appeared to be successful and it did provide enough income to support Candy and her kids, but there were also rumors that it wasn't doing that well and that she was actually working as an escort or like a sex worker to make ends meet. Okay. But like, whatever. If that's what she wanted to do, then great.


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[Assistant] Now, in an effort to enter New Orleans upper echelon, maybe because she was tired of rumors starting. Oh, you hit that Lilo. Thank you.


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[Assistant] She started volunteering with the New Orleans Opera in 1947. And she offered to meet with the prominent businessmen and wanted to like arrange donations for the organization. And that's where...


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[Assistant] The two began dating. And they were adults at this point, so who gives a fuck. But I love how she's like, you know, this 11, he's 11 years older than me, we don't have anything in common because he's an old rotting bag of flesh. Yea. And then she's like, this guy though that's 25 years older than me, I think, I think we got way more in common. The problem with Norman was, uhm,


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[Assistant] Because the thing was, immediately Candy got access to the lifestyle that she had been dreaming of since she was a small kid on that rural family farm where she had to pick cotton and collect eggs. There you go. You know?


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[Assistant] So they got married in 1949. Uh, they got married while he was on a business trip to Fort Lauderdale. Like, just really made, like, made a little quick time to get married. I'm like, huh, romantic. So upon returning,


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[Assistant] Returning to New Orleans, Jacques made the decision that he wanted to relocate the headquarters of his company along with his new family and they wanted all of, he wanted all of that to go to Houston because business was booming down in Texas between the finance and the oil industries. So it was a good move. Now in New Orleans,


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[Assistant] Houston, baby, my girl Meg's place, hometown, was different. It was different all together.


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[Assistant] Jacques had pur- purchased a plot of land in the city's River Oaks neighborhood, and they built a brand new three-story red brick mansion. Ooh. My fucking dream. I love a brick. I love a brick house. I love bricks. I love a brick house.


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[Assistant] Yes, great song. Yeah, that is a great song. We listened to that today, didn't we? We did. Yeah, good song.


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[Assistant] To the more notable charities, and she was throwing fundraisers in her newly built home where she quote, strolled from room to room in stilettos, greeting her guests with a kiss on the cheek.


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[Assistant] But the thing was, she was like an enigma to the society women of Houston. Like all of them were like, what the fuck is she? Like, where did she come from? She just really popped off and came to town. But they all also agreed that she was charismatic, she was flirty and fun, but she was also kind and generous, they said. Oh, look at that. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And even when the rumors of her seedy New Orleans past started circulating among the Houston peers, it didn't damage her reputation like it probably would've if somebody who was like less charming or well liked came along.


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[Assistant] But unlike many of Houston's high society, candy is philanthropic.


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[Assistant] You don't like flops? I don't know, I just thought about it. Flip-flop? An-anonymous?


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[Assistant] One night in 1957, while he was in Chicago on a business trip, Jacques called Candy to tell her about this fucking awful story that he read in the local paper. About four children who'd recently been orphaned, their father shot their mother and stabbed their baby brother to death. Oh my god. And they had no one.


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[Assistant] Holy shit. Yeah, and that's what Jacques is saying to Candy. He's like, what the fuck? Oh my god. Like, I can't believe this happened. So she, this like actually really moved her it seemed. Like she was really affected by this. And almost immediately she got on a plane, went to Chicago,


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[Assistant] And the story was picked up by the Associated Press, and it was reported in papers across the country. And Candy told the reporters, we have nothing temporary in mind, only permanent adoption.


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[Assistant] Oh man. Which is nuts. That makes me sad. I hate, I hate this shit. I do too, it's weird. When it's like they do stuff like this and you're like, oh, you had a chance to be a decent human. And you, and you were a decent human. Like god damn it. You know, like where did it?


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[Assistant] Trail off. Where'd it go? Where do we go from here? Where did you leave it? Who'd you give it to?


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[Assistant] Oh fuck, yeah. God. Now, you know, whether it was a true act of generosity or something more calculat- calculating, excuse me, the adoption story made Candy and Jacques one of the most famous and celebrated couples in Houston. Damn.


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[Assistant] I do think it came from a good place. I don't think- I want it to. These are human beings that they adopted. I really hope it wasn't for anything other than to make their lives better. No.


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[Assistant] It did win Candy a seat on the board of directors from some of the city's most prestigious organizations. Yeah, I mean, the reality of the situation is as much as we want to sit here and say, no, I never want to believe that somebody would.


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[Assistant] Do that, like adopt human being children that have gone through one of the most traumatic events that I could ever fucking fathom for their own personal gain instead of just to make their lives better. The unfortunate reality is there are shit people.


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[Assistant] That will do that stuff. It's true. So I don't know. I don't, I don't think any of us will know for real what their intentions were, but no.


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[Assistant] And you know what I mean, like the physical, the material stuff is great, but it's like,


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[Assistant] Now despite the tragic sur- circumstances, that brought them to their, their new home, the four newest famers of the Masler family, they seem to take easily to their new lives in Texas.


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[Assistant] Norman and Rita, Candy's children from her previous marriage, they were in their teens at this point when the kids were adopted. They loved the kids and they found them super charming.


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[Assistant] According to Skip Hollinsworth, who wrote a really good article about this case for Texas Monthly, I'm gonna link it in my resources, uhm, the expansion of the family actually prompted a bit of reorientation of the Mosler household, and in a good way. Candy transformed their massive ballroom into a playroom for the kids.


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[Assistant] Yup. Had the chauffeur drive them to the bowling alley.


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[Assistant] The family took vacation a lot in Galveston. They had a vacation house there.


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[Assistant] And Candy even had Jacques build a baseball field in an empty lot from across from their mansion in River Oaks. Okay, so it at least seems like they were trying to give them. It does. You know? And one of Jacques' employees taught the family how to play baseball.


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[Assistant] So as the 1950s came to a close, it seemed like Candy had finally achieved her dream life, the life of wealth and privilege that she'd always wanted. And it seemed like she was happy to share it with others.


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[Assistant] But then in 1961, a phone call from her sister, Elizabeth, set in motion a series of events that would turn Candy's entire world inside out and change absolutely fucking everything in the most irreversible of ways. Oh, yeah.


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[Assistant] Okay. So Candy's older sister, Elizabeth, who is better known as Babe. Her nickname is Babe. Babe. And I'm pissed that my nickname's not Babe. I mean, nobody can be Babe except for Sinister Palm Babe. That's true. That's true. It's given dark side. It's given dark side. If you haven't followed that, go follow it. Given dark side.


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[Assistant] Her 20 year old son, Mel, had been arrested and convicted of fraud in Michigan because he had, quote, pursued an 89 year old man to buy $20,000 worth of worthless stock in a fake magazine subscription firm.


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[Assistant] Which is, when you think about it, so sad because babe Elizabeth only wanted like, the best.


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[Assistant] For her son, and she wanted to steer him onto a right path. And this one phone call.


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[Assistant] Changed his entire life and candies because of decisions that they made in every fucking way. And this is her sister. Yes.


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[Assistant] Like her sister called her and was like, I need help. That's the thing. Like it's not even like a case where it's like an in-law and she's not related to her nephew. She's full blown related to him.


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[Assistant] But to your sister? Like that's fucking with your sister too, like, like. Oh absolutely. Like what?


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[Assistant] So, Babe was hoping that Mel could go stay with Candy and Jacques for a while, while he got back on his feet, found a job, that kind of thing. And Candy was always generous with what she had, so she said, of course, I'm always willing to help family, like, send them on over. And it's interesting, cause I'm like,


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[Assistant] Did she already have feelings for him or is this something that happened when he moved in? Like, I'll never know.


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[Assistant] But Melvin, what's his deal? What is his deal? He's a dickbag. He'd been born on January 13th, 1942 in Birmingham, Alabama to Garrett and Elizabeth Babe Powers. A few years after he was born, his father moved the family from, uh, excuse me, moved the family to Phoenix, Arizona.


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[Assistant] And his father owned and operated Powers Aviation. It's kind of funny because it reminds me of, um, Del Millard. Yeah, I was just thinking that. Yeah. It was a business that, quote, fueled, repaired, and sold small private aircrafts.


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[Assistant] Now, if Garrett's work, uh, impressive work ethic and commitment to his business ever left any impression on Mel,


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[Assistant] It was almost certainly gone by the time that Mel was in high school. Ugh. Just gonzo. Awesome. Throughout most of his high school career he was lazy, he was grumpy, he was disrespectful.


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[Assistant] He sucked. Yeah, sounds like it. Yeah, I just, he also, he was a bully. Oh, fuck this guy. He was six foot four inches tall. He had like a really athletic build.


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[Assistant] And a lot of people said that he used his, you know, like kind of menacing presence to terrorize people that he thought were weak or vulnerable or just so he could have fun. Awesome. Yeah. Sounds great. A collective booom. Booom. Thank you.


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[Assistant] So when Garrett closed the airport business in 1960, Mel used the separation from the family business as an opportunity to get away and see the country, you know? He just wanted to go travel around the world. Yeah, he's earned it. He joined a quote, roving band of dubious characters. Wow.


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[Assistant] Don't you like that? I love that. I love that a lot. I'm gonna start referring to a lot of groups of people as that. I can, I have exactly who you think is a dubious character. Yup. Yup. Mhm. Yup. A roving band of dubious fucking characters. Yeah. Yup. Yup. There it is. Yup. Yup.


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[Assistant] But he joined them in a door to door magazine subscription service that was not real. I was going to say that must be nefarious because it sounds not nefarious. It's very nefarious. It was a scam operated by a career criminal named Arthur Grimsley.


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[Assistant] With a last name like Grimsley, I'm sorry, you have to be a career criminal. I was like, you are a career criminal. You just are. You were born a career criminal. They handed you the card the day you were born. Yeah. But these young men would sign up unsuspecting customers for magazine subscriptions and then take the money before the customer realized that the magazines were never coming.


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[Assistant] That's nice. Like, okay, Jen Shaw. Yeah. Calm down. Real Housewives reference, you know.


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[Assistant] It was during one of these door-to-door sales that Mel was actually caught for the fraudulent stocks sale, sale in 1970, er, 1961, Jesus. Idiot. And that led him first to jail. Not you by the way, I meant Mel. Oh, I know that. I just realized that, I was like, that was right after. Yeah, you know, that's written down somewhere. Like you idiot. But uhm, he first went to jail like we know and then also like we know.


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[Assistant] I'm really worried about where this starts. You should. Yea, you should definitely worry about it. You should absolutely be worried. Yea, I'm not going to even lie to you. From the moment he arrived in Houston, Candy was taken with her nephew.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't want to be here anymore. Yeah, he had the body and the confident swagger of a movie star. Of your sister's child. Yup. That's what he has. Oh, gross. Yeah. Hate it. She happily welcomed him into their home. She gave him his own room, gave him a car to drive whenever he wanted.


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[Assistant] But however, if he was really going to fit into her lifestyle, he would have to make a few physical changes.


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[Assistant] So not long after he arrived in Houston, he did visit a plastic surgeon for four procedures. A tonsillectomy, uhm, a procedure to make his ears closer to his head. Oh. A procedure in which his face was actually sanded in order to minimize his acne scars. And for some reason he got circumcised. Okay.


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[Assistant] So at Candy's request, Jacques hired Mel for a position as a repossessor for one of his auto lenders. A repo man. A repo man. We love those.


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[Assistant] It was actually the perfect job for him though because of his unpleasant attitude and menacing figure. Yea, he sounds like a repo man. Yea, finally he was an asset. But not for long.


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[Assistant] Because by late 1963, about a year and a half after he'd gotten to Houston, Jacques had Mel fired and then had him escorted off of their property in River Oaks. Oh. And he forbade him from ever returning. Holy shit. And then he himself, Jacques, immediately left for his condo in Florida. He was like, I'm getting the fuck out of here.


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[Assistant] Woah. He was pissed about something. What the fuck happened? But when anybody asked, Candy would just say that Jacques had found out that Mel was leaving the company to start his own business and he was really pissed off about that. I don't think that's it. No, me either. I don't think that would piss Jacques off as much as that did. I think you might be on to something.


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[Assistant] By George? We've cracked the code! Something about it just doesn't ring true. Do you know that I just found out that the expression is by George? What did you think it was? By God. I mean, you could say by God.


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[Assistant] In, in that movie, did they say like, by God, we've cracked the code, or did they say by George? I think we've got it. What about cracking the code? I don't know where that came from. Oh, by George, I think he's got it. Why is it George? I don't know. Oh, probably the king. George?


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[Assistant] Saying like, by God, you'd be talking about the monarch.


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[Assistant] An old English oath, invoked immediately before charging into battle, as late as World War I. And it's, oh, and you know what, you can say, well,


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[Assistant] You can say like, by God, George, or by Saint George.


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[Assistant] So there's that. Well I just found out that it's not just by God. The whole time I thought it was by God. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Crazy. It's also, it's like, uh, Shakespearean as well. I like George better, you know? Bye George. Well anyways, so yeah, so Jacques was like, bye George, I'm out of here. Bye George, I'm out of here.


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[Assistant] But as for why he'd left on an unplanned trip to Florida, everybody was like, where's George? Where's George? And they're like, I don't know George. I didn't mean to say that. Where's Jacques? Like what happened? Candy was like, oh, he just went to, um, oversee the opening of a new bank in the Miami area. We're going to be joining him there in the coming weeks. Yeah, I don't think you are.


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[Assistant] Now as far as the kids were concerned, their trip to Florida was like any other summer vacation. They went to the beach, they spent days at the pool, at Jacques' condo building.


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[Assistant] And they didn't even seem to mind the frequent trips to the emergency room in the evenings.


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[Assistant] Where Candy would receive injections to control the sometimes overwhelming migraines that she suffered with for most of her adult life. Oh. Yeah. That sucks. Yeah, but I'm like, why can't Jacques just watch them? Like, why do you gotta bring the kids to that? Yeah, damn. I feel like you're doing something else. Huh. In my opinion. In my opinion. I'm op.


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[Assistant] Now the last of the ER visits occurred on the evening of June 30th.


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[Assistant] What? It's just all weird. That's strange. After waiting several hours to be seen she finally was seen and given her injection.


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[Assistant] And she and the kids finally made it back to Jacques' apartment around 4.45am. She needs some excedrin migraine. She certainly does. That's too much. That's the ticket. So they get back at 4.45am in the morning.


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[Assistant] So Jacques had been bludgeoned over the head with a very, very large heavy object and had been stabbed 39 times. Holy shit. In the heart and the lungs with a quote, thin bladed knife, something like a stiletto. Ooh.


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[Assistant] Rather than call the police, Candy ran to the neighbor, Irene Durr, who called a local physician, Dr. John Handwerker, but only reached his answering service.


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[Assistant] So when Dr. Handwerker finally did reach somebody in the Masler family, it was 20, uh, 20 year old Rita and she explained the situation. She was basically panicking and she told the doctor, someone's broken into the apartment and I think my father is dead. He's lying on the floor. He's covered with blood.


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[Assistant] So the doctor had been actually a close associate of Jacques for many years and he knew him really well, but he was like, why the fuck did you guys call me and not the- like you gotta call the police.


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[Assistant] So Rita told him, Mother isn't hysteric, she asked me to call you first.


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[Assistant] So he told her he was about a half hour away, but that they needed to call the fucking police. And then he was like, you know what? I'm going to call the police for you. And then he started making his way to the apartment. So nobody there called the police.


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[Assistant] And he's like on his way being like, I don't know, I'm not at the scene, but like, I'll call them there. Yeah.


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[Assistant] So when Deputy James, uh, Jorgensen of the Miami Dade Sheriff's Department arrived at the governor's large apartments, he was met at the apartment door by the one, the only candy.


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[Assistant] And she looked more annoyed or impatient rather than upset or traumatized. And she just told him, there's been some trouble.


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[Assistant] There's been some trouble. Like that's one way to put it, Candice. Wow. So inside the apartment...


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[Assistant] It was more or less what Rita had described to Dr. Handworker. Jacques was lying on the floor. They had actually covered him at this point with a light orange blanket.


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[Assistant] Uhm, one of his legs was exposed and his hand was still clutching the drapes.


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[Assistant] He noted that Jacques was nude other than a white undershirt.


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[Assistant] Which was now almost completely soaked in blood. Yeah. And from the doorway, which was like several feet away, Candy screamed, Oh Jack, Jack, what have you done? What? What have you done? She said to her dead husband.


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[Assistant] What the fuck? So the comment seems strange to us.


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[Assistant] Also seems strange to the deputy, and he was like, is this lady implying that like her husband's somehow responsible for his own death? Stabbed himself 39 times? Like what if- And bludgeoned himself? What have you done? Yeah. That's so weird.


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[Assistant] So several days later when the autopsy was conducted, Dr. Joseph Davis' report would confirm that Jacques had sustained two significant blows to his head.


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[Assistant] And they only ever identified like that, the blows to the head is coming from a blunt object, but they never found what the object was. That's interesting. The first was to the back of his head and it crushed his skull on impact.


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[Assistant] Which would have caused significant brain damage or death. And hopefully he was unconscious. You would think, I definitely would think so.


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[Assistant] Now, while the other blow was to the side of the face, and that one shattered his cheekbone. Oh my god. Yea. The stab wounds to the chest, again, 39 in total, were about 2 inches deep.


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[Assistant] Holy shit. So Dr. Davis concluded that it would have required considerable force, and that alone indicated that this killer, whoever this was, was a strong individual.


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[Assistant] Which meant that the stabs to the torso were entirely unnecessary and they were really just like complete overkill. Yeah.


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[Assistant] So now that they're like, okay, murder, duh.


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[Assistant] The officers do a door to door canvas of the building, hoping that maybe somebody caught a glimpse of the killer as they fled the building.


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[Assistant] But nobody really saw anything in the early hours of the morning. But some people did hear things. Irene Durr, that neighbor who actually called the doctor, she told the police that she didn't hear any struggle. She did hear the dog frantically barking around 2am.


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[Assistant] Another neighbor, Peggy Fletcher, also heard what she now believed was the murderer.


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[Assistant] Telling officers she was awoken around 2am and she heard a man's voice yell, don't, don't do that to me. Followed by the dogs incessant barking.


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[Assistant] So the noise prompted her to go to the door and she heard someone close the door to the mausler's apartment and then heard heavy footsteps down the concrete stairway.


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[Assistant] Which led her to believe that the killer must have been a man based on his footsteps.


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[Assistant] And then another neighbor told the police that he had seen a man and a woman


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[Assistant] Leaving the parking lot in a yellow 1959 Dodge with a Dade County tag just after 2am.


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[Assistant] Police initially suspected that the death was the result of a robbery gun wrong.


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[Assistant] But then at the same time, something about that didn't really feel quite right to them. A robbery gone wrong never feels quite right.


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[Assistant] No, people of course are sometimes killed like during a robbery. Yea. But they're not beaten over the head and brutally stabbed almost forty times. No. That's just, it just doesn't work like that. Not usually. Not anything that I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] And also the case lacked the telltale signs of robbery. Nothing was obviously missing. There wasn't really any sign. Like the robbery part? Yea, the robbery part.


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[Assistant] Before 3am, on the morning actually that Jacques was murdered, officers had taken a man into custody who was discovered walking along the road with blood smeared all over his shirt. Wow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the man said that he had been assaulted by three teenagers who stole his car. So the officers took him to the hospital for treatment.


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[Assistant] But now, in light of the murder, the sheriff's office was like, oh shit, like is that the guy that's responsible for Mausler's death?


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[Assistant] So they brought him in for questioning, but they eventually released him because it was apparent that he had no connection with the murder. Oh wow. Red herring. What a coincidence. I know, isn't that crazy? And also sad because that's probably true. Like he actually got, that's really sad. Yeah, I know.


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[Assistant] So they were running short on leads, they really didn't have any evidence to work from, and they were like, shit.


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[Assistant] But detectives Jerry Evans and Pat Gallagher returned to Candy Mosler in the hope that she might have some kind of idea about her husband, her husband's enemies, like anybody that might want to kill him or might want him dead. So from the moment they sat down with her,


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[Assistant] She really defied the expectations of what one would assume was a newly widowed woman. Which, but again, we can't judge a book by its cover. It's never good to judge grieving. It's not.


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[Assistant] But she was impeccably dressed. She did not have a hair out of place. Not a, not even a piece of jewelry was out of place. But you know, whatever.


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[Assistant] Evans and Gallagher were put off by her calm demeanor though, and like, just so that she looked perfect. I mean yea, you do have to take some kind of cue from it. Yea, it just didn't align with what they expected of somebody who just lost their husband in a fucking shocking act of violence.


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[Assistant] I don't know that if I found my husband, or my soon to be husband, like that on the floor, that my hair would look great. Yeaah, I don't think so, but. Probably not, but it's just me. Different strokes for different folks.


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[Assistant] So the detective's new mausler was a high profile man in finance.


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[Assistant] And if the murder was not the result of some kind of robbery gone wrong, they thought maybe it had something to do with shady business dealings. And Candy was like, oh my god, yes, you're right. She was like, oh shit, you nailed it. That's a great motive. Thank you for telling me that. She said, you know what? It could have been one of the many, many former employees.


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[Assistant] It could have been rival bankers, it could have been customers who defaulted on a loan, or...


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[Assistant] It could be this. Ooh. And this was something that the detectives were not expecting.


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[Assistant] According to Candy, when Jacques would take solo trips to Florida, he would often use the opportunity to quote, entertain young men that he had met on the beach. Oh.


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[Assistant] We don't know if this is true at all. I think this might just be candy telling stories. Sounds to me like it might be. Yeah. She said, in fact, just a few days earlier, she was visiting the apartment and Jacques had gotten several phone calls from a man who, according to her, quote, spoken feminine tones.


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[Assistant] Wow, Candy. Fuck off, Candy. Wow, Candy. And she said, you know, I'm suspecting that he's leading a gay life out here in Florida. Okay.


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[Assistant] I love how she's taking this as an opportunity to be like, yeaah.


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[Assistant] You know what? Let me just like, let me spin this yarn. I'm either gonna lie or I'm just gonna out him right now. Out him entirely. Like that's fucked. If that was true, you just outed him to like so many people. That's fucked. And if that's not true, why are you making up stories? Especially


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[Assistant] Why are you making up stories in a time where that is damaging to someone? That's the thing. Like, come on. You know, that's not cool.


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[Assistant] So, it was entirely unexpected, this whole angle.


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[Assistant] But it did fit a crime scene that pointed toward a crime of passion.


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[Assistant] But then at the same time, detectives were like, I don't know, I think she's trying to sell us a story that she wants us to believe, not revealing some kind of like embarrassing detail about their personal lives. And years later, Jerry Evans, one of those detectives,


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[Assistant] So among the more interesting bits of information gleaned from the dual to dual canvas was that a few of the neighbors had also seen a white Chevy sedan leaving the parking lot in the hours just before the body was discovered. And when detectives did a little digging into Candy's alibi,


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[Assistant] They learned that she had indeed been with the children at the hospital that morning before she'd found Jacques.


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[Assistant] So when they checked with the staff at Alan Parker, they were able to confirm that this car had been checked back into the garage by a tall, dark haired man at exactly 5.19am, which was just a few hours after the murder happened.


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[Assistant] So when Evans and Gallagher returned to speak with Candy on the morning of July 1st, they found her in the company of her personal lawyer, T.M. Doyle.


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[Assistant] Who was a family friend that for some reason she introduced as Vincent Caltegrone.


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[Assistant] That doesn't fit. No, his name is T.M. Doyle. I was just gonna say T.M. Doyle. Vincent Caltegron. Yeah, I don't know about that. Like, okay Candy, take several seats.


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[Assistant] And, uh, they also found her, so in the company of her lawyer, but also two bodyguards that she'd hired to protect the family from whoever had killed her husband because she had no idea who it was. She had no idea.


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[Assistant] Once again, she pushed the whole theory of a burglary gone wrong and told the detectives that thousands and thousands of dollars worth of jewelry was missing from her apartment.


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[Assistant] And they were like, yeah, like, oh, I'm so sorry to hear that, like, could you make us a list of everything missing so that we can circulate it to the pawn shops and, you know, keep this whole thing going? And her lawyer was like, no, she's too distraught to do that right now.


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[Assistant] Absolutely not. She could never take a proper inventory at this time. She could never. She could never.


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[Assistant] You're done. You're done. You're done. So it was obvious now that the burglar story wasn't an option, so she returned to the story about Jacques' secret gay life. Yes, of course. She said that she'd actually gotten additional calls from a myriad of other men.


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[Assistant] But neither detective took the bait. They were like, we see what you're doing here lady. Instead they told her that the white Chevy that she had rented had been located and it was discovered to have blood inside of it.


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[Assistant] So she responded and told them she knew nothing about it and she had asked a porter to return the car when she realized that she wouldn't need it after all she'd never even driven it. Wow.


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[Assistant] But they had to like, obviously check in on this, and when they did, they found out that the passenger list for the 7-10am flight from Miami to Houston on June 30th, uhm, was boarded by a man by the name of M. Powers Mosler. Who's that?


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[Assistant] So within a day or two of Jacques's murder, Jacques, excuse me, it had been pretty obvious that he was not killed in a robbery gone wrong. Yeah. Then the detectives put no stock in Candy's theory about him carrying on some kind of secret gay life.


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[Assistant] And in fact, between the fingerprints found at the apartment and in the Bel Air and the passenger manifest for the flight from Miami to Houston, they were pretty sure that they found their killer or at least knew his name. Ding ding ding. Now they just needed to know why he had killed Jacques. Yeah, I would like to know. Yeah.


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[Assistant] So on Friday, July 3rd, the Houston police arrested Melvin Powers at the mobile home sales company that he recently opened with money from Mosler. Wow. Like how fucked is that? That's really fucked. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And based on evidence that had been collected from the scene and at the airport,


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[Assistant] Additional. I don't know if I said that right. Okay, good. We're really hitting a wall here. Yeah, we are. It's late. It is. So excuse us if we're like bleh. So on Monday, July 6th, a grand jury convened in Harris County, Texas, and they were considering whether or not to indict Melvin.


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[Assistant] So they did take a recess on Tuesday because detectives announced that they had discovered potentially significant evidence during their search of the mobile home company. Ooh, you don't say? I do say. On Tuesday July 7th, they located letters addressed to Melvin Powers


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[Assistant] Yeah, the letters addressed, my darling, appeared to be romantic in nature and they included statements like, I love you, need you, you are everything to me darling, and I could not think of life without you.


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[Assistant] I really hate this. To her nephew, guys. Please make it stop. Her nephew. I hate it. Fucking gross.


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[Assistant] And by that time, actually Candy had also returned to Texas.


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[Assistant] And responded to the discovery by accusing Harris County District Attorney Frank Briscoe of being out to get her. Okay. And she said he was out to get her because of some kind of negative remarks she made about him while she was serving on a grand jury years earlier. It was stupid. So Briscoe was like, uhm,


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[Assistant] You haven't been accused of anything yet. But like, thanks. And also, I don't have the power to convene a grand jury. And even if I did have a grudge against you, uh, I don't. But none of the actions taken against him, like your nephew, could have come from me. Yeah.


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[Assistant] He's like, stand down. Like, candy. Shut up. Stand down. Basically said via the press, candy, take several seats. Yea, he absolutely did. Yea.


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[Assistant] So Melvin's mother and Candy's sister, Babe, also traveled to Houston at this point over the weekend to see her son, and she told the press that her son was innocent, and she said, and this breaks my heart,


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[Assistant] So within a day or two, the scandalous news of the love letters between Candy, Auntie,


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[Assistant] And Melvin, nephew, had been reported in papers around the fucking country. I hate it.


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[Assistant] But it was not the first detectives in Florida were hearing of this potential love affair between the two.


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[Assistant] Actually, as investigators chased down the burglary and gay lover theories, one of Candy's own relatives had informed Evans that Melvin had actually been kicked out of the house when Jacques discovered


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[Assistant] Melvin and Candy, quote unquote, canoodling. I don't want that. The two were seen canoodling at Chris's Halloween party. Oh my god, thank you. I don't know if it's Chris, I just like, I think I might have made up the name.


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[Assistant] The cousin? The cousin that like, um, that the, that Amanda Seyfried's character is like. Seth? Yea, Seth Mozekowski, is that what his name is? The two were seen canoodling last week at Seth's. No, it's not, I need to know. I don't know, you should google it though.


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[Assistant] I think it's Chris- Chris Isles. Isles! The two were seeing canoodling last week at Chris Isles Halloween party. There it is. Like why did- why does, um, uh, Mr.


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[Assistant] Mr. Duvall, why does he know that? Yep, he knows. Back to the story. As the stories of their incestuous romance made their way around Houston's stunt high society,


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[Assistant] Candy had fled the city at this point. I mean, what else do you do at that point? She's a high society lady and it comes out that she's fucking her nephew. That's bad. Real fucking bad for the daughters of the American Revolution. Certainly is. Emily Gilmore would read her to filth. Emily Gilmore would ruin her fucking life. Forever. She would get the last tea.


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[Assistant] So Candy, she fled the city. She had to disgrace on her name and her family.


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[Assistant] Um, and she sequestered herself at St. Luke's hospital and she claimed she was suffering from a form of battle fatigue.


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[Assistant] Like, the drama, mama. A form of battle fatigue. Like, ma'am, you don't even know. You performed for the US- at the USO for the troops. Like, and you're gonna sit there and say you are experiencing battle fatigue? Yeah. Oof. She sure did. She did that. Just say it's been rough.


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[Assistant] But the door to her door, the door to her door. The door to her door. Uhm, the door to her room at St. Luke's was monitored by a private security guard. But that actually didn't stop her from allowing many, many reporters to crowd around her bedside as she suffered from battle fatigue. And she just had an impromptu press conference.


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[Assistant] And she said, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If an atomic bomb were to fall, Mel would have been the first one to drag Jacques and the children out of the wreckage.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. But what about an Atomic Blonde candy? Hooooooo. Ba-dum-tssss. There it is. She was blonde.


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[Assistant] Regardless of what she said to the press, excerpts of the letters continued to be printed and a number of photographs of them together at nightclubs were now circulating. It was like Perez Hilton before Perez Hilton, you know?


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[Assistant] After a few days at St. Luke's, the pressure from the press and the public became way too much and she actually fled again. This time she went to Rochester, Minnesota. She rented adjoining hotel rooms and she spent a ton of time at the Mayo Clinic. Okay, you know? Oh, I do. Yeah, I know.


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[Assistant] Random. So while she hid from the press in Minnesota, Melvin and his lawyers were actively fighting his extradition to Florida to stand trial for murder.


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[Assistant] And in the weeks after his arrest, his lawyer had actually petitioned the court for bond. Uh, that was quickly denied though by a judge.


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[Assistant] So meanwhile, the Harris County Grand Jury, they continued their exploration, excuse me, of a possible alternative explanation for Jacques' murder, including a conspiracy which involved shady business dealings. They were still like, you know, that could have happened. Absolutely. You're innocent until proven guilty. Yes.


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[Assistant] By June of 1965 though, as police continued their investigation into Mellon Candy's romance and Candy's connection to her husband's death,


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[Assistant] She and the kids visited Arlington National Cemetery on the anniversary of the murder to lay roses on Jacques Grave.


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[Assistant] And then she circulated those photos to the wire services for publication in any and all newspapers.


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[Assistant] Why is she the way she is? I don't know. Childhood trauma, maybe? Yeah, possibly. According to her, doctors had advised her that she was too weak for truffle.


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[Assistant] Now, so the outside world, it appeared that the Miami-Dade investigation of the murder was kind of actually running out of steam, and a lot of people thought that it was doomed to fail.


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[Assistant] But just one month after the scene at Jacques Graveside, a Miami Dade grand jury indicted Melvin.


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[Assistant] And candy. Oooh. For the murder of Jacques. Oh shit. Of Jacques, I just said Jacques Musler.


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[Assistant] And during that, the state would have to make their case as to why they arrested Candy for murder and if she was going to like really do this. I'm curious.


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[Assistant] And in the meantime, Candice and Mel were bonded and released actually, and they both returned to Houston to await trial.


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[Assistant] So initially the trial was supposed to start on November 15th, 1965, but it was delayed a numerous amount of times.


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[Assistant] Wow, I'm tired. It was delayed numerous times. It was delayed a bunch. Yeah, you know, attorneys on both sides were arguing over whether the two should be tried separately, whether they should be tried together. The prosecution preferred the latter. They were just arguing up and down the wazoo. So tired. Up and down that wazoo.


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[Assistant] But the delays and multiple pretrial hearings really provided additional opportunities for Candy to grab the spotlight and she never missed a single opportunity. Of course she didn't.


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[Assistant] Now during the pre-trial hearing in October, she arrived at the courthouse, accompanied by her 11 year old son, Eddie. And at her own urging, he told reporters that he was there, so they won't take my mommy and put her in jail.


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[Assistant] Oh my god, kill me. Like don't use your child for fuckin' performative shit. Like what?


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[Assistant] But similarly, when Jerry Selection finally got underway on January 22nd, 1966, Candy actually invited a large number of reporters into the apartment that she started renting in Florida so they could just, I don't know, like witness her in all her domestic glory and just report it back to the nation.


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[Assistant] And she claimed that she had been given the wrong idea. Like, they had all been given the wrong idea about her.


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[Assistant] Oh. Her statement to the press during that event would set the stage for the entire defense. She said,


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[Assistant] I wasn't perfect. My husband wasn't perfect. But it was our personal life. Just like you have one. Just like everyone has one. If everybody's private life was laid bare and was brought forth into the open, how many of us could stand the exposure?


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[Assistant] I don't think that's the issue here. No, the issue is that like you might have killed your husband and at the same time you were fucking your nephew.


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[Assistant] And then your life won't get brought into the forefront. And also, your life was always in the fucking forefront because you wanted it to be. You sell, like, the pictures of you at his grave.


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[Assistant] You invited all of the people that you were telling this to here. It's like, so this is not beyond your control, you're inviting it. Exactly.


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[Assistant] But anyways, the trial finally began at 9 a.m. promptly on February 1st, Rabbit Rabbit, 1966. And Richard Gerstein was arguing for the state. Clyde Woody and Marion Rosen were arguing in Kennedy's defense. And Percy Foreman and William Walsh were arguing on behalf of Melvin Powers.


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[Assistant] Because of the scandalous and taboo nature of the relationship between the defendants, the jury and everybody else in the room probably expected sensational opening remarks from the prosecution. They were probably fucking ready for it.


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[Assistant] But in his opening statement, Assistant State Attorney Richard, uh, Hutto made no mention of incest or any of the salacious details that were reported in the press, and he said only that the state would prove that an illicit affair was just one of the motives for murder.


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[Assistant] Whoa. I'm like, I don't know if we can boil that down to an illicit affair. Yeah, I'd call it something different. Just call it uhm, incestuous. Yeah.


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[Assistant] His straightforward approach was a little different than Percy Foreman's theatrical presentation to the jury in his opening remarks.


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[Assistant] That's fucked. That is a lot to say. You're talking about a man that was brutally murdered. Yeah. Holy cow. Like, holy cow is right. Like, woah. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't even want to say this. He was accusing him of like, awful, awful things. Oh really? Yeah, just like...


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[Assistant] Basically saying that he was like, voyeuristic, he was a gay man, he, you know, all these terrible things. But they're making him into this like,


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[Assistant] Creepy, criminal. Yes. Element. Exactly. You know. Exactly.


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[Assistant] And he assured them that if Jacques' shady business dealings hadn't gotten him killed, then surely his sexually deviant life did. Being gay. Yeah. To which I say, get fucked, sir. Exactly. And I wrote that in my notes with one of those old hearts that we used to write with like the arrow pointing left and then the three. Get fucked, sir. That's right. Heart. Yeah. She's like, I hate that back then. It was like,


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[Assistant] He was gay so he got murdered because he was gay and that's yucky. It was probably just being gay. Like shut up. Yep.


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[Assistant] So by the time the prosecution was finally able to call their witnesses, the defense had put on such a performance that anything a witness had to say would have been bland as fuck by comparison.


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[Assistant] Now among the other witnesses called by the prosecution to testify as to the romantic relationship between aunt and nephew,


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[Assistant] Was Jess Young, who was a private detective from Texas. Young had actually known Powers in another context, and told the court that he and his wife had run into Mel and Candy at a motel in Nassau Bay in Texas, where Powers introduced Candy as his wife.


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[Assistant] As their child. What the fuck. He said that it was his wife's son by a former marriage, but like, now it was their child together. Oh my god. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Foreman, though, pointed out that this guy Young and his wife had met Mel when they purchased a mobile home from him some time earlier.


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[Assistant] And then that later that home was repossessed. So it poked a hole in the story.


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[Assistant] So that essentially just implicated to the jury that this, this is not credible. It was retaliation. Yeah. Exactly. So that just poked a hole hole in that.


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[Assistant] Now the trial's 10th day turned out to be what the Miami Herald referred to as quote, the most unsavory days of the long and bitter courtroom spectacle. Whoa.


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[Assistant] The defense took every fucking opportunity they could to imply or accuse any of the prosecution's witnesses of everything, from petty retaliation and ignorance to infidelity and of course, homosexuality.


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[Assistant] All without evidence, always with objection, but still it was devastating to the state's case against Mel and Candy.


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[Assistant] So the court romantics and theatrics, almost entirely on the part of the defense, were no doubt exhausting for the judge, the jury, the prosecution, fucking everybody, except for the reporters in the room, especially the tabloid reporters.


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[Assistant] It was all what Dave so perfectly called, journalistic catnip. Oh my god. And that's our friend Dave who helps us with research. Dave is hilarious. He called it journalistic catnip. That's a great way to describe that. I love him a lot.


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[Assistant] Reporters from all over the country had actually arrived in Miami, like traveling from everywhere. And they wanted to provide daily updates on the case and like whatever paper they were writing for. Of course. Actually, the Houston Chronicle referred to it as uh, overflowing with quote, love, heat, greed, savage passion, incest, and perversion.


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[Assistant] And the Chicago Tribune said that it was, quote, lubricated by sex, nourished by sex, and varnished with sex. This trial. This trial. Lubricated? What was the second one? Lubricated, nourished, and varnished with sex. Lubricated, nourished, and varnished.


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[Assistant] I'm honestly, sorry I just swallowed in your ear, but I'm honestly shocked that they were able to, uh,


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[Assistant] Like you just open the fucking newspaper to eat your breakfast. You just kick your feet up, your dad just opens the paper and is like, well fuck, that case is varnished by sex. Yeah, that'll change you. Damn. Yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] And the trial's glamorous and titillating air was only fed in two bites. Titillating. Main star. Candy muzzler. Oh boy. She arrived to the courthouse every fucking day dressed in furs.


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[Assistant] Skin tight dresses and stilettos. Of course. It was like she was attending a fucking Hollywood premiere rather than a murder trial in which she was the accused.


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[Assistant] She's the defendant in a murder trial of her husband, possibly by her and her nephew lover. Yup. And she's like, I better wear the best shit ever. Yeah. She's like, let me just offend PETA while I'm at it. Yeah, absolutely. You know?


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[Assistant] So meanwhile, the real victim, Jacques Masler, was being fucking crucified by the defense teams. And they were handily turning the public against him. Because, I mean, all they had to say really was like, he was gay. And they were like, oh god. Gross. He asked for it. Yeah, literally. Isn't that so fucked? Oh, it's very fucked.


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[Assistant] And the thing was too, putting the victim on trial was actually a very typical approach for this guy Foreman too, like he did that in almost every trial.


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[Assistant] And in this trial, it would be no different. He took every opportunity to remind the jury. He said, quote,


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[Assistant] Thousands of people hated the banker. Jacques was ruthless in business as any pirate who ever sailed the seven seas. A man who received so many threats against his life that he kept an axe by his bedside and frequently summoned thugs and gangsters into his home, employing them to deal with the blackmailers. Wow.


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[Assistant] Call them a pirate. You're so weird, dude. Yeah. Like, get fucked into the sun. He's like, this guy who was murdered in his own home in the middle of the night asked for it. Was a pirate.


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[Assistant] He's also like thugs, gangsters, gay people. I'm like, get some fucking culture. Get some culture, my friend. Good travel, okay? But you know, all good things must come to an end. Yes, it does. And of course, by the time that the Mosler trial reached its conclusion, it seemed as though many people, journalists and readers alike,


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[Assistant] Had consumed more than their fill of the story. I think by the end of this, people were like, I'm done. Yeah, like too much. Yeah. As the jury readied for deliberation, the Associated Press wrote, quote, the trial story is one of the more sensational for some time, but with war and death on grand scale, it appears the public doesn't care for crime news the way they once did.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was like a whole ass war. Yeah, you know, like people had other shit to focus on. So testimony ended on March 1st with as much flair and theatrics as it had opened with. There were numerous demands for a mistrial, there were motions to dismiss from the defense, all of them were denied.


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[Assistant] And over the course of 31 days, the prosecution presented the jury with evidence and with testimony that very strongly implicated Candy Mosler and Melvin Powers


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[Assistant] In the murder of Jacques. Oh damn. There was forensic evidence of Mel having been at the scene. Multiple witnesses confirming Candy and Mel's romantic and sexual relationship.


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[Assistant] As well as their years-long desire to have Candy's husband murdered or murder him themselves.


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[Assistant] But the defense, like we know, hurled wild allegations, unsupported theories, possible alternative killers, bogus claims all intended to slander the victim. They just wanted to obscure, excuse me, the prosecution's case.


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[Assistant] In his closing arguments, Arthur Hutto pointed a finger at Candy though, and declared her most guilty.


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[Assistant] He told the jury, even though she didn't strike the fatal blow, the evidence shows she is more guilty than this man. And with that he shifted his filter to Mel. He said she's more guilty.


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[Assistant] This was a murder case. Yea, it's not lubricated or varnished by sex.


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[Assistant] So the jury deliberated for three days before returning to announce that Candy and Mel


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[Assistant] Candy collapsed in her chair and started convulsively sobbing.


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[Assistant] And Mel leaned back in his chair, like kinda seemed to relax, probably for the first time in months.


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[Assistant] Even one of the jurors actually threw tears, it seemed like he was very relieved, but he was crying, and he told Candy, God bless you, ma'am.


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[Assistant] What? You didn't think she was guilty? The fuck?


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[Assistant] Or he probably was like, oh my god, this poor woman was married to a gay man. How terrible.


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[Assistant] And as they left the courthouse, Candy was met by a mob of adoring fans who were elated with the verdict and shouting, Candace, we love you! I can't. Are you kidding me? No. Are you kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you kidding me?


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[Assistant] The district attorney's office, they did make a strong case even if they didn't have a murder weapon. But from the moment the trial started, it was clear that this had nothing to do with justice. The prosecution didn't lose the case because they lacked evidence. They had plenty of fucking evidence.


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[Assistant] Wow. That's all this comes down to. So this is really just all tabloid shit. That's exactly what it is.


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[Assistant] The defense teams, Percy Foreman in particular, spent almost the entire trial just...


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[Assistant] Making a mockery of this man. Yeah. And the people fell for it. Wow. It's so fucked. That's really sad. It's so fucked.


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[Assistant] So ten days after the verdict was read, a book was published about the murder. Ten days? Ten days. Damn. And it was supposed to be adapted into a Hollywood film after. Of course. Uhm, Candy told the press that she had no interest in having a movie made about this, but I think that was a big fat lie. Yeah.


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[Assistant] When it comes right down to it, she'd be like, where do I sign? She referred to it as that unfortunate Miami episode. Oh yeah. The brutal murder of her fucking husband as the father of your children. That unfortunate Miami episode. Are you fucking kidding me? Unfortunate. And she returned to River Oaks.


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[Assistant] But if she was expecting, like, fans like she had in Miami, she was fucking mistaken. One of the ladies in high society said after standing next to her at an event and moving her place,


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[Assistant] Please, I wasn't about to be seen standing next to a hedonist. She was a murderer. She had sex with her sister's son. I don't know which is worse.


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[Assistant] Jesus, right? Did you say heedness? Yeah.


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[Assistant] What did I say? Hedonist? Hedonist. Goodbye. Philanthropy? Philanthropy. That one was intentional. I love that. Hedonist wasn't. Hedonist? Hedonist. Hedonist. Okay, thank you. You know quotes. It's fine. Regardless of how she was received back in Houston though, having been found not guilty meant that she was free to inherit Jacques's huge fortune. Of course. Yep.


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[Assistant] She also got to take over the majority control of multiple banking institutions. Holy shit. Because he's a fucking banker.


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[Assistant] And she was installed as chairman of the board on some of those. Chairman of the board. So with the inheritance, she purchased multiple properties. She invested in arts and theater projects. She also founded a music publishing company and she wanted to publish and promote love songs that she'd been writing for years.


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[Assistant] Judy. Now after the case had ended, Candy and Mel kinda went their separate ways.


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[Assistant] Yeah. In the months, in the last months of that relationship, things got so bad that they would get into loud arguments in public. And there was one incident where Candy actually called the police and demanded that Mel be arrested for physically assaulting her. What the fuck? Mhm. There was no evidence that he had assaulted her though. Whoa.


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[Assistant] You wanna know something crazy? I dunno. Candy got remarried in 1971. What? And wait until you hear what happened with this.


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[Assistant] She married a man named, uh, Barnett Garrison. He was a self-employed electrical contractor and he also owned a nightclub.


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[Assistant] And he was also 20 years younger than Candy. So now at first, she really loved the older guys, but then she loved the younger guys. Oh yea, she's coogan though.


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[Assistant] And when they interviewed Candy, she said she had no idea what he was doing on the roof, but then blurted out that she had shot him.


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[Assistant] What? But that confused the investigators because he didn't appear to have been shot.


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[Assistant] I'm so confused. Me as well. And them as well. Everyone.


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[Assistant] So they said that they chalked it up to her being heavily medicated at the time of this fall?


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[Assistant] And the fall was officially determined to have been accidental. Woah!


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[Assistant] Unofficially, rumors circulated that he may have gotten drunk and become abusive one night, so she jumped, or excuse me, she jammed an ice pick in his ear. Again, this is all speculation. And she had a relative


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[Assistant] But he had no memory of what happened to him. Oh, of course. And no memory of being married to Candy. Whoa. Whatsoever. Oh, that's wild. Yeah, bless his heart. Yeah. In a real way. Like truly. Bless him.


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[Assistant] So obviously this lawsuit created a big old rift between them and she actually eventually wrote them out of her will. Wow. Isn't that fucked? Wow.


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[Assistant] Like, no matter what my kids do, I don't think I could write them out of my will. I mean, I don't know, but. You're like, I don't know. I don't know.


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[Assistant] In October of 1977, Candy flew to Miami. She was planning to attend a board of directors meeting for one of the banks that she inherited from Jacques.


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[Assistant] And after checking into her hotel, she called the doctor that she saw when she was in Miami.


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[Assistant] And she told him she was getting another one of her violent migraines and that she was gonna need one of those injections. So he came by and he injected her with Demerol and Phenogran, I believe, uh, excuse me, Phenergan, which is a painkiller and a sedative.


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[Assistant] But what he didn't know was that she had already taken another pain pill prior to his arrival and injection.


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[Assistant] So the next day, October 6, 1977, her secretary found her lying face down on the bed, dead from what would have been ruled


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[Assistant] Mhm. She spent her whole fucking life trying to make it and then to stay in the spotlight.


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[Assistant] And then she ended like that. Oh my god. Isn't that fucking crazy?


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[Assistant] Wow. Absolutely fucking nuts. That's bonkers. That's the end of it. And that's the end of candy.


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[Assistant] Quite literally. She spent her whole life just trying to get in the spotlight. And like, she did. But in the worst way. In the worst possible way.


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[Assistant] And then spent the rest of her life trying to get out of it, but never could.


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[Assistant] Bad. It's bad shit. It's fucking bad. I've heard it like a ton of times, but I think every single time I just like rummage it out of my brain. Like I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I actually, I knew like the name. I did not know the whole story at all. Crazy. So that's wild. Crazy. Damn. Yeah, so like.


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[Assistant] Don't do any of that. Definitely don't. But do keep listening. And we hope you keep.


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[Assistant] You want to watch an episode of Bluey? And I said, yeah. And then we did. That's pretty iconic. And we watched a few and then we were like, wow, off to bed we go.


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[Assistant] Uh, the new podcast on the Morbid Network.


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[Assistant] And John Lee Brody. Two of the coolest fucking humans to exist in this world. Literally two of the nicest humans we've ever met. I'm telling you, they're so sweet, so hilarious, and this podcast is gonna be so much fun. Oh my god. They announced it last night and I was very excited about it. Yeah, we got to listen to the first episode already and you guys are


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[Assistant] And I saw Sarah Michelle Geller post about it and I said, whoa, teenage Elena, you could not conceive of a world where this is the reality of the situation. No way. And right after this,


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[Assistant] I was just chit chatting with Doug Bradley and his wife on Instagram. I don't know what life is right now, but I am loving this simulation. You're a really good manifester. I manifested the show.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so it's coming on March, so be on March.


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[Assistant] His wife messaged and was like, hey yo, we love ghost and we're friends with Tobias. And I said, Oh my God, could the world get any sweeter right now? And it couldn't. So there's that.


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[Assistant] In a seven year old child's bedroom. Like, with her. In the morning. Like who the fuck is


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[Assistant] And it's like this person is a fucking monster. Yeah.


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[Assistant] He walked into a house on a Saturday morning and tried to rape a woman in her seven-year-old daughter's room after telling the seven-year-old, I'll kill your mom if you make a sound. He's a fucking monster. I'm so angry. I hope he is dead. A hundred percent. In prison.


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[Assistant] In the trauma all of you must have, like the aftermath of that must have been so hard for you all. Well you probably still deal with that. I am so sorry, your poor, poor you, like Jesus, like oh my god, and then your parents, like your mom. Yea. Like I would be, I, I swear I'd be like standing guard every night.


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[Assistant] Putting a seven year old face down on the ground while attacking her mother and telling her I'll kill your mom if you make a sound. And that was a sixteen year old. What was that kid's life?


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[Assistant] Like, oof. Alright. Well, let's move on from that. I'm so glad that you're all okay, and I'm so fucking glad that you guys got justice out of that. Like, so glad. And your mom is one of my heroes. Shout out to your mom.


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[Assistant] Alright, so this one is called, that time a scary ghost saved my life. Oh, that's fun. Which I like. It's a casper, but scary. Hello, hello, I'm...


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[Assistant] Zach, feel free to use my name ahead of it. I was like, a relatively new listener. My best friend kept suggesting I give you guys a listen and I finally caved and started from one in early 2022. As of today, I wrapped up the Dahmer trilogy and I'm excited for the many episodes left for me to get through before I catch up.


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[Assistant] You guys make the ridiculous traffic in my LA commute bearable. And for that, I can't thank you enough.


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[Assistant] And we thought with the, with the Evan Peters Dahmer thing, that was going on and everybody was very focused on that. And I'm sure people were looking for podcasts to listen to about the case. And when we listened to it, we just felt like we could do better. There were things like we wouldn't have


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's last year, but we just wanted to clear that up in case you were like, where the fuck did that go? Uh, yeah. So maybe we'll cover it again. It's just, it's good to evolve. And if you see, you know, if you feel like you can do something better, you should do it better. Hell yeah, brothers. And I hope other podcasts got views because of that. Me too. So, or listens, I should say. You're old.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Either way, but thanks for listening. You guys make the ridiculous traffic in my LA commute parable, and for that I can't thank you enough. I thank you for existing. You know LA traffic, how the city's slow. You know? Yea. I know Boston traffic, that's for sure. Isn't it like the worst in the world? LA traffic?


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[Assistant] So my story begins when an uber driver totals his car on the freeway thanks to a couch sitting in the middle of the freeway and not enough room for him to swerve around it.


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[Assistant] When I say this place was haunted, I mean the guy that interviewed me told me on the tour of the warehouse that two people have come around a certain corner.


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[Assistant] I also saw a ghost once at a hotel in London when I was 16, but it was literally just a quick flash like when Shelly Deval goes up the stairs at the end of The Shining and sees the butler with the old school furry, but not as scary or weird. I love you. Anyway.


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[Assistant] Obviously the terrifying girl did not deter me from getting this job. I also learned that there was a second ghost over there and I learned their origin stories.


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[Assistant] Anytime I would find myself in that section of the warehouse, I'd call out some variation of, hey ghosts, I'm chill, I just need to do something really quickly and I promise I'll leave you alone. I like that. That's adorable. And it seemed to work really well, as they never showed themselves or really scared me.


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[Assistant] When maybe two seconds after I saw a goddamn ghost, an earthquake hits. No! Like my night wasn't scary enough already. Oh, she was telling you to get out. Exactly. I got another whoomp. My whoomp. It's happening.


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[Assistant] So I'm buzzing along as fast as my electric motor could carry me, joining the forming convoy of my coworkers that were closer to the door than I was, as we all gather safely in the center of the yard, all accounted for.


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[Assistant] We chilled in the lot waiting for an aftershock that never came, smoking cigarettes and bullshitting for 30 minutes before the safety team went in to check for damage and to make sure we could return to work safely. Guys?


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[Assistant] Okay, that was amazing and I'm really stressed out about it. So I'm gonna go to the next one! It's called The Curious Case of Bonnie the Basset Hound.


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[Assistant] Dear Alina and Ash, kudos for the great podcast. Thanks. My dog Bruce and I listen to it while we take walks in the woods. He couldn't give a fuck, but I love it.


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[Assistant] It all started when I was in my final year of vet school in 1993. The last year of veterinary studies is spent in clinical practice. The students do rotations in various fields, gaining hands on experience, preparing for finals, and mostly trying to find random snippets of sleep throughout the day or night.


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[Assistant] Usually the hospital attracts the unusual and challenging cases referred to by stumped vets in the community or brought in by owners who seek a second opinion.


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[Assistant] One stormy afternoon while I was on clinic duty, a young couple was sent into my examination room with a lovely seven year old female basset hound named Bonnie. Bonnie! I love her.


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[Assistant] After introducing myself as a student in training and explaining the teaching hospitals procedure, I asked them how I can help Bonnie.


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[Assistant] They told me that Bonnie was feeling fine and that they just wanted a complete checkup for her.


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[Assistant] I told them that this is a highly unusual request and reminded them that this is a teaching hospital that normally only sees complicated cases. They insisted on a routine physical and said, we promise that after you complete the exam, we'll tell you why we're here. That would freak me the fuck out and I'd be like, what am I about to find inside of this dog? That is ominous as fuck.


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[Assistant] But at the end of my examination, I concluded that I could find nothing wrong with Bonnie.


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[Assistant] I told them that I'm going to consult with my attending and that they would both, we would both be back momentarily.