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[Assistant] And then, uh, the big dance starts at 7 PM Eastern. Uh, it'll be live on Peacock, of course. And that is, uh, SMX round seven. It's going to be a lot of fun for you guys. And, uh, I'm excited. Um, Arlington is always fun.


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[Assistant] Welcome to This Is Importance, a production of iHeartRadio, the show where we only talk about what's obviously most crucially integral to the fabric of our very nature. Today we talk about, is this the movie that's gonna


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think Adam's an asshole, and I also think you're an asshole. I definitely agree with you, Blake's a bitch. I liked home improvement, but


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[Assistant] I guess I'm, I'm the one who made the rule first so I guess I'm a bitch.


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[Assistant] I'm a bitch. I'm a lover. I'm also a director, so I'm like making rules. I'm a bitch. I'm a bitch. I'm not like letting things...


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[Assistant] Oh, so based on what though, I think our problem is what defines a bitch, what defines an asshole.


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[Assistant] I already said I was, but I'm not actually clear as to why I said that. So, if we can define this.


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[Assistant] Adam's an asshole. Yeah, I think Adam's an asshole, and I also think you're an asshole. I definitely agree with you, Blake's a bitch.


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[Assistant] I think I am when I think about bitch versus asshole. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm better off being a bitch than being an asshole.


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[Assistant] Yeah, how does it feel to be assholes, you, you assholes?


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[Assistant] Alright, yeah. See? So he's an asshole with a basis of bitch. Yeah, with bitch tendencies. Built on a bitch foundation.


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[Assistant] Well, you are, like, there's no questions about you being an asshole. I don't think anybody's gonna question that. Yeah, you're a total asshole.


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[Assistant] That one's pretty good. I'm your friend? Is that what Macho Man's saying? Yes. He turns friend into a three syllable word. Maybe four.


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[Assistant] Oh, you want people playing the old characters? You want like... You want a Razor Ramon?


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[Assistant] Like his. Well, the rocks company's doing rowdy, rowdy, which I'm actually attached to right now. Ooh, rowdy, rowdy. Yeah, yeah.


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[Assistant] They came to me with the idea of doing a Rowdy Roddy project. Um, Rowdy Roddy Piper, a famous wrestler from the 1980s. That's right. And it's with, uh, the rocks company and Kim a lot, Jimmy Kimmel's company.


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[Assistant] And I said, I'm attached to direct it. They're not looking for another director at this time because if and when it gets made, I'm the guy.


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[Assistant] But are you, are you ever trying to get better than the real thing? The whole point of making a biopic or whatever is to pay homage to the real thing.


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[Assistant] But that's not like a real thing. That was not based on a real thing. Uh, okay, yeah.


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[Assistant] I get to see them. Yeah, I dig them too. I think they're cool. You get to see them BLAST.


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[Assistant] Well, that's why Roddy fucking rules, man, because he was a game changer. He was like the first successful heel, where he played the bad guy and found, uhm. Was he before Ric Flair? Yes. Yeaah, he was doing this like, the, when he fought Hogan,


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[Assistant] Uh, Hogan? Hogan? Yeah. At Madison Square Gardens, like.


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[Assistant] Hogan goes out and gets all the love and everybody's taking pictures of him and all that stuff. Rowdy Roddy Piper walks to his own car, drives himself home, nobody gives a shit. But he participated in half of that match. He gave himself to the craft.


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[Assistant] In a way that's so blue collar and so awesome and he didn't get the, he didn't get the stardom.


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[Assistant] You know, that's why I think, that's what attracted me to-


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[Assistant] Well didn't uh, Rhonda Rousey take it? She did. And he gave it to her. And she got- How did he die?


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[Assistant] What was, what, how did he go, Kyle? No, I think he, I think he had a heart attack.


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[Assistant] Hey, can I, I have a question, cause I've heard this in Hollywood pronounced two different ways, but. Ooh, let's, let's talk Hollywood. So you said biopic. I hear some people say biopic.


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[Assistant] Biopic is dumb. What are we saying? What is it? I always said biopic, like it's a bio-pitcher. That is what it is. But I hear people that are well respected say biopic.


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[Assistant] Okay, so we can just put that to rest, cause I'm on the same page. Biopic. Biopic?


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[Assistant] Walk in with a huge asshole. I'm a bitch identifying as an asshole at that point.


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[Assistant] Lead with your asshole. Always lead with your asshole.


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[Assistant] Never done it. How do you? Technical. You just post your story and then give yourself a little swipe and it's one of the options, just like the super zoom or. Okay. Or any of those. I've never done a story.


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[Assistant] Hey, you got to do what everybody does and you're like fixing yourself and you're like, hold on. I'm going to wait till we all show up real quick. I'm going to wait till we get a little bit more people.


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[Assistant] Okay, so that's cool. That was like a double, a double public.


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[Assistant] Disingenuine is a, I don't know. I don't know, bro. I like that. He was like, well, I don't know. Yeah, that was my true bitch coming out.


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[Assistant] Hit us with it. Spell it. But spelling isn't necessarily vocabulary, right? Like I mean...


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[Assistant] I feel like after that, after you corrected me on the disingenuine thing, I'm the guy who thinks I do, but I'm fucking probably the worst.


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[Assistant] That's what I mean. So at the, yeah, that's a great one, idiom. But at the end of the day, meaning like, after we argue, like, till the end of the day, when we get to it, this is gonna be what's up. So I know everything.


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[Assistant] Right, the summation, the summation of the, of the discussion is at the end of the day. Summation, very good.


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[Assistant] I know, I was happy that it happened because I was able to use it. Otherwise the big-


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[Assistant] No, I did use it in a sentence, I used it in a sentence for the first time and then I couldn't put it back into a sentence, but I did pull it out of a genuine sentence, a very genuine sentence.


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[Assistant] I would love to hear why you are not a Robin Williams fan.


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[Assistant] Like, do you remember Hook? I didn't like that movie either.


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[Assistant] Yes. Absolutely. Who's the fucking man? So- Style icon.


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[Assistant] Specifically talking that- that- Like Jean-Claude Van Damme flicks? Like- No. Those- Okay.


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[Assistant] Alluring to me. So wait, you had to pay, you had to pay for the, the series? He bought them at my house. He bought them. Like he just clicked buy the whole series two times and I still have them. Wait, like.


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[Assistant] So it was you just loving Home Improvement, which I have to agree with you, that was one of my favorite shows growing up.


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[Assistant] Well who, who, what, what people, what Al was obviously, Richard Karn. He, he's with us. There's, there's no way to tell how old that man was.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, tool time. Are you kidding me right now? Yeaah. No. What? I had no idea about this little piece of, uh, nugget of something. Whatever the hot, hot, triv. Whatever the vocab word is. Hot, hot, triv.


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[Assistant] You like the show tool time on home improvement or did you like home improvement?


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[Assistant] Oh, interesting. What's the show you watch that nobody else watches on the, on the pod?


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[Assistant] I feel like I don't watch much TV outside of the stuff that we've made or stuff that I'm working on. But I really, I don't know if anybody here watches the dramatic series This Is Us, but I love it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like to cry when I watch that show. It's good. That's a great word. Smart word. Do you cry during it? Hell yeah. Bitch. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I mean, I, I happen, I'll say it, I'm the guy that'll say it. I love crying when I watch, uh, movies or TV, you know what I mean? It's, it's cool to me. It's a way that I can get it out.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing though, I know you've recently done a rewatch of it and you still stand by it. Oh, it's so, it's so fun. I don't know that I could do that.


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[Assistant] Well, dude, I think you could and I think you should dive back in. Well, because it, yeah. Well, no, I mean, I don't know that I could stand by it. I know that I could watch it again, of course, but I don't. Well, for sure.


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[Assistant] Oh hell yeah. And have we talked about this, but it was like, it was kind of like a weird mental roadmap for me to be like, how do you do the Hollywood thing? Like, who's this, this director Billy that like I basically based my whole life off of?


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[Assistant] Right, yeaah. I haven't worked in a while, so uh, uuuh. You followed Billy's playbook a little too close.


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[Assistant] It can, yeaah, it's any form of media.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I get that dude. I mean, I don't fault you for crying and I wonder if you'll ever cry again. I applaud you for it.


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[Assistant] I remember when they were interviewing me for that, I, uh, teared up a little bit and I was like, please don't use that. Please don't use that. Like afterwards. What did you almost tear up about? I remember it. I remember like complimenting Adam, like in a very genuine way. Cause they were like, they were like picking


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[Assistant] At our story and it, I mean, all this shit kind of wells up where you're like, fuck, I haven't thought about like,


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[Assistant] The inner mechanics of how we made it, I've just been riding the wave, but


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[Assistant] They were like, what would you want to say to how we built the wave? Yeah. I was like, what would you want to say to Adam and, or, or what do you think his role was? And I just was like really being not disingenuous and saying that.


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[Assistant] I thought that Adam did a great job of pushing us full steam ahead when we, myself probably would have been like,


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[Assistant] Well, I had viral, I had the beginnings of viral conjunctivitis. So actually I realized afterwards that the tears that were coming out was a, was a virus. Uhm.


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[Assistant] I forgot to use the joke because I wanted to do the joke. Like if it used to be crying, I wanted to tell you that. So I just had to, I wasn't going to do it, but I did it.


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[Assistant] Hey, Adam, when you saw your dad cry on your documentary, was that the first time you ever saw your dad cry?


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[Assistant] I mean the first time I ever saw my dad cry was at the end


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[Assistant] This is your problem. This is not existing.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, the first time I ever really clocked my dad crying was during a movie. Was during the movie Little Big League.


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[Assistant] When he was like the main character when the kid was about to like, he couldn't coach the team anymore. And then he was like, I gotta go. And he goes back out into the field because everybody is chanting his name. Like I heard this like sniffle.


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[Assistant] I'm like, what's going on? I look over, my dad was just blubbering, like big heavy tears coming down his face.


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[Assistant] Did you play? You pitched, right? First base. No, well, I played first base. That was my goal, was to be a Major League first baseman. You'd be a great first baseman.


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[Assistant] No, I would have loved it. I think I would have been a pretty good first baseman. I think, uh, would have been dope.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but the goal back then was just to hit home runs and trot around the bases. That's all I was doing. And then standing at first base and stretching to get a ball. As little steps.


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[Assistant] Wow, dude, that's crazy to think about. I could have been like...


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[Assistant] I think magic is going to have a major comeback because people need that. I love this. Can we quote you? Yeah. Oh yeah. I think that those high concept magical films will have a mainstream comeback, especially as we see movie theaters like go away and the blockbusters are kind of like not as necessary as they were.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I think, I think they're gonna come back in a major way. High concept magic films.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's a good guy. I like, I like your dad a lot. I like to play guitar with him, he plays the harmonica, I feel like he's a friend of mine, more so than you, uh, sometimes, sometimes, not always, but sometimes. But I think him showing the crying, him showing the cry face was good on that.


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[Assistant] He's good, good leader. I would also like to compliment my father for that.


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[Assistant] Yes, it does. That is a, that's hard not to cry. How do you not cry at Coco?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I couldn't use that in my twenties.


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[Assistant] You know, just, what am I now, 5th, 5th 7th place guy right now, it, uh,


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[Assistant] I don't know. I just had to go do something. I just had to get off the gate there. So when you have those two mud races in a row, it's just a huge unknown.


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[Assistant] Uh, for me personally, this was like round two for me just because I failed so terribly at Anaheim one, so uhm.


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[Assistant] There was a huge question mark for myself coming into today.


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[Assistant] So, uh, it was important, you know, for, for us to, to perform. Uh, since A1, yeaah, there were bike changes, uhm, it's basically just going back to something I knew.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that was it for the motorcycle and, and yeaah, but with that being said, it's, it's, it's tough for your first race back after having that time off. So, uhm, to be honest, it was probably a combination of both there.


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[Assistant] That's right. Yeah. We gotta, we gotta stay up on the front lines of this thing, man. There's a lot of guys changing, moving around, you know, some, some new manufacturers. There's all kinds of stuff to talk about. That's right.


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[Assistant] Exactly, like yeah, I've been asked, I don't know how many questions. Well, what about, you know, what about this? What'd you get paid for this? How did this go break down or, you know, break it down for us? And I'm like, as a writer.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, you have a team like, like Ricky had an agent. I had an agent. They handled all that backend stuff. So 18 months to work on that and, uh,


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[Assistant] In drum up all this information, I mean, it had to be, it's a lot of work, buddy.


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[Assistant] We had an offer from Honda and it was, it was like, I think, I want to say it was 800 grand and I was upwards of, you know, right at two, I believe at Cali and it was, it was, the gap was so huge. It wasn't worth it.


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[Assistant] We put the, what year was this ish? That would have been 2000, let's see, I went 09, 10, 11.


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[Assistant] It would have been 2011 contract year, I believe. Heading into the 2012 season? 12, 13, 14. Yea, I believe so.


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[Assistant] Because that was when, cause my Kawasaki contract for, was, was 12, 13 and 14. I ended up doing a three year contract.


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[Assistant] Um, that's kind of par for the course of the European thing because, um, I was, I figured I was going to look, I'm going to do three years. Um, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm done. Um, but closest thing was, was Honda was an offer, but it was substantially lower. So it wasn't even a conversation.


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[Assistant] Yep, yep. You know, I think it was, it's interesting to see, right? Like I feel like some of these teams go through rebuilding stages and uhm, you know.


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[Assistant] Well, kind of, you know, if you want to say it like that, yeah, like rebuilding, they, you know, RC had just went to, went, you know, or he had left, you know, and they, you know, I think at the time they had, they had Trey, they had Chad for, you know, popping in and out. I think he rode from factory and then he did his own team and.


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[Assistant] They were kind of in this limbo type of, type of year. So I don't know if they were ready to, to spend the money to go and win because that's what it takes. You got to spend the money if you want to win.


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[Assistant] It totally is. And I've said this in the past, and I think I've said this on the show a couple of times. And, um, you know, I, I reference Eli, you know, at Kawasaki, um, watching that wind down.


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[Assistant] I'm kind of figuring out if he's going to retire, if he's going to keep racing. I think we all could see on his.


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[Assistant] You know, yes, he was, he over it. It looked like he was kind of over it, but it was more or less, you know, he needed a scenery change. And I believe that that would have, that would have helped me also if I would have had a scenery change, a new set of goals, new team members.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think for me, the one thing is, is what made my relationship a little bit different with Kawasaki was...


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[Assistant] Was I started from team green, you know, eighties up to Mitch Mitch to.


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[Assistant] So, you know, when you, if I would have done to say, let's say I took the Honda deal at 800 grand, I would have been like say 24.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't want to use, say that I was much older and wiser, but when I signed my Kawasaki contract, I was like, you know, call it 19. I was still really like kind of a kid, you know, that so.


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[Assistant] I don't want to say they treated me like a kid, but essentially like I was this kid that came from super minis to PC to now factory. So I think the dynamic would have been different when you, when you switch teams, you go to them and they're, they're, they're looking at you as, as an equal almost. Not that Cowie didn't cause I still love those guys.


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[Assistant] Uhm, still have a great relationship with them, but I think our work relationship would have been a little bit different. I think I could have had, I could have swung my weight around more at a different team, uhm, in the middle of my career, if that makes sense.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think it's great. I honestly, I think, I think that uhm,


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[Assistant] We, you know, that's, it's, it's natural course of like, obviously they're going to bring Hunter up into that, uh, up into that seat, right? So I think, I, I do think Chase's is, I think it's good for him now. I think it's good for the change. I think he, I think that's going to be, I think Roger.


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[Assistant] Can, you know, I don't want to say use the word help because I think Lars was a great team manager too, but you know, he's going to go to a different team. Like a very similar to me, like he's going to go there at 24 as a supercross champion. He's going to be able to throw his weight around. He's going to be able to, you know, tell them what he wants or doesn't like and things like, I just feel like he'll.


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[Assistant] He'll have a better foundation underneath of him, if that makes sense. Uhm, but I don't, I can't tell you if it's going to change his results.


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[Assistant] Exactly. And that's, that's what we have to see, right? Like does it come out? Does it, does he come out and just, and, and, and.


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[Assistant] You know, build nicely or like the thing is, is whether it is, and I know we're going to have it, we're going to see it. There's going to be a fire drill and that is going to be where, how do they rebound from the fire drill on say Saturday night? You know, wheels fall off the wagon.


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[Assistant] We got to go back Monday, Tuesday. We're back to, we have to reinvent ourselves, essentially get back up on the horse.


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[Assistant] Uhm, those are the times that, that are, Megan, it may be uncomfortable for him or that he's really gonna have to learn, right, that scenario because he's been through the toughs, the ups and downs with Honda and the, and the team personnel.


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[Assistant] Never has he done that with KTM and Red Bull. Obviously they've done it with you, Ricky. They know how to groom these riders up to get the best out of them.


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[Assistant] But it's going to be a learning curve for both sides, for Red Bull KTM and Chase.


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[Assistant] Yep. No, and I think, and I think he does. I think we've seen that, uhm, from Chase this year alone. I think we, we, we see how thick his skin is and the resiliency that he has because man, media,


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[Assistant] How crazy would it be to, to, for those mistakes, those careless mistakes to now be gone on a different manufacturer? I'm not saying it's going to, but we have to say, I have to throw it out there that it is a different chassis. It's a different motor. It's different suspension. It's a whole different motorcycle. So.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it could work into his favor or it could be, man, we got a lot of stuff we have to figure out on this motorcycle. We don't know.


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[Assistant] Exactly, like, you know, you're going to a different, different brand, something that hasn't won in a while. So, but here's the difference between.


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[Assistant] Guys like me, you, chase, jet, and all these other guys. Like it, it's the color of the motorcycle. And that is the only thing different in our, in our heads, really. Like as chase switching over.


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[Assistant] He, I can guarantee you, and I know, I know this for a fact, and not because I've asked him, just because I know his, his, how he is meant, you know, like how they are mentally, how these racers are like.


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[Assistant] You know, yes, will he have some issues? Probably, but his mental capacity and what he's going to do, he's a winner and he's going to put himself in that position. Not to say he's going to not have any mistakes, but he will get wins on that KTM and he will be in the fight because he's a champion.


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[Assistant] Um, yeaah, yes and no. I mean, risky, right? You know, like to, to not ride it and see how far off it was compared to what he was riding. But once again, he knew, Ricky knew that he was going to go there and, and, and they were going to,


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, they were, Suzuki was in that position at that time, right? It seems like listening to the story is like, okay, we're, we're putting our, all of our efforts into RC and we're going to try to win a championship.


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[Assistant] Yep, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's gotta be that working relationship and like they, if they give them some rope for sure, I think they need to. Uhm, but also too, we, we know that, look, I'm not an engineer, you're not an engineer, we know what we, we know what we think we want and we try to lead those guys in the right direction and that's all we can really do.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, personally, I mean, I'm gonna, I think that, that he kinda needs to, watching the last three rounds of, you know, SMX, uh, I know it was a new motorcycle, he was, he didn't have a ton of time, he had more time than, than a couple days obviously, but uhm,


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[Assistant] To me, I think that the pace has been elevated.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we're watching, looking at Koop. I think mentally he needs to get his head back in the game to race with those guys. I'm not saying that...


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[Assistant] He doesn't have the speed, but I think he's in a critical, little bit of a critical point in his career. Uhm, you know, making that switch kind of mid-season, unhappy over at KTM.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, now, so, so, I, I will say I feel like his back is...


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[Assistant] But watching Chase, watching Jet, watching Kenny be able to rise to the occasion, hitting that quad, you know, that Jet did, like all those little things, he needs to get his, he needs to sharpen himself to get him back in that mix. And right now I feel like that's where he's.


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[Assistant] Where it's a critical situation, this off season has to go perfect for him. They need to get that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I do, I think he's totally capable of it, but like we've mentioned it on the show before, like he's gotta improve his, his whoops, right? Like his, his, his whoops speed has been...


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[Assistant] Exactly, like that's a lot. And then if you're, if you're struggling, you know, if you're just staying on their coattails everywhere else and you're getting waxed in the whoops, like it's not enough. And mentally, what's that do to his head space? Like.


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[Assistant] That's where I feel like he's gotta get out there, he's gotta come out swinging.


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[Assistant] He, he's been, he, you know, everybody knows he's been on the bike longer than anybody else. Um, new, new bike that is, you know, leading into this, into this upcoming season. So everybody's going to be expecting along with the riders. I'm expecting that. That's what he has to do in my opinion is get up and get in the mix right away.


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[Assistant] Hunter is more calculated. Uhm, I think he, I think he calculates his risks more than Jett. Uhm, so I think that could work into his benefit on, on the 450. Uhm, I do think that, I mean just watching LA for example, I brought that up again, the pace was, was, was unbelievably high. Uhm, I think that's going to be,


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[Assistant] Uh, a learning curve for him. I think he's gonna, he's gonna leave the lights class as, as, as we all know, as, as everybody's full of piss and vinegar. Uhm, these guys are just balls to the walls a lot of the times. We're 450 class, class is a little more calculated.


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[Assistant] They're, they're more mature. Their racing is a little more stable. They race, you know, better around all of each other. But I think, you know, Hunter, in my opinion, Hunter needs to get, move up to that 450 class and, and just be right in that top five area. And then I feel like he's then going to start to build.


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[Assistant] I don't see, I don't think we come out seeing him standing on top of the box at, uh,


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[Assistant] At uhm, Anaheim 1, let's say. I mean, it'd be insane if that happened, right? But uhm, I feel like of the guys he's racing against, I feel like Hunter, just knowing him as a person, on a personal level, like, he's gonna, he's gonna


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[Assistant] He's gonna start to catch that wave and then it's, he's gonna ride it, you know, as long as he can stay off the ground and not be hurt and things like that and have things go a little bit of luck his way.


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[Assistant] I think we'll see him up in the mix, but I don't see, I don't, I don't see him racing for wins right away.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I personally for Justin Cooper, I feel like he needs to, perfect scenario for me from the outside looking in is if he can be.


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[Assistant] I'm going to use reference Michael Byrne. If you can be the Michael Byrne.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, that's, you know, third on, on a, on a freaking awesome weekend. And then, you know, anywhere from that eighth place, you know, third through eighth, if, if he can establish himself every weekend to be in that, in that mix from third, third through eighth.


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[Assistant] I think that's, that is a, that's a great starting point for him in the 450 class. Cause I don't think he's going to be up front winning races, battling with Jet and Eli and Chase like that, you know, occasionally. I don't think, you know, he'll be able to ride their coattails for a few laps. I don't see him being up front.


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[Assistant] But for me, if he can take that and be like that fifth place guy every weekend.


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[Assistant] Like there's always guys looking for, for that spot, for that fifth place spot. Teams, you know, is what I mean, is looking for that fifth place spot. And I think that's something that'll, that'll carry and he can build on that and get better.


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[Assistant] Yeah, consistency. I mean, like, like Ricky said, he's got outdoor championship. I mean, he's got race wins under his belt, but the consistency hasn't, hasn't been there. And, and, and you just mentioned like,


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[Assistant] Not a whole lot of starts for the amount of, of, of seasons he's done, right? So uhm, you know, consistency, I mean, the guy's got the speed.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, showing up every weekend. I mean, we got 32 of these things. You have to show up on your A game.


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[Assistant] You're saying his last, his current contract was a three year contract.


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[Assistant] What? You know, talking about, well, I feel like, I feel like expectations, right? Like I know past champion and obviously as a past champion, I think multi-time champion actually.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, like, you have a different mentality and it's hard to start thinking differently as, as a champion, uhm, and as, as a race winner. And I think being that we're watching, watching him kinda, you know, on the tail end of his career, uhm, you know, I feel like,


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[Assistant] Use Phil, Phil Nicoletti for example, like still out there grinding away, doing his best finishes, but if it's not there that weekend, I feel like, you know, I feel like that's kind of where he needs to, to be better at his, his racecraft or his racing on weekends is like, Hey, if it's not there,


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[Assistant] Uh, this weekend then I'm not going to, you know, send it or risk it. I feel like.


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[Assistant] Really trying to figure out your tail end of your career. How is the best way am I going to exit here? Am I just going to always end up being hurt? Uhm, and you know, not being on the line all the time.


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[Assistant] If he can get himself onto a good foundation and start to build on that and work.


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[Assistant] And what is his exit strategy for his career? Like go out, you know, with, with top fives. Like I think that would be a hell of an exit of a career.


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[Assistant] And if you ask me, I feel like, I feel like his, his, the, the, where he is, I personally, if I was his manager or his, his, his guy, uhm, I would, I would keep him down in the 250 for supercross outdoors and come into, to SMX finals, you know, uhm, in a good position to, to,


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[Assistant] Make a bunch of money in that, in that life class because you know, let's face it, like I know some guys don't think about it, but I always thought about it. Like how can I maximize my revenue?


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[Assistant] Because we're only here for so long as, uh, you know, at that top level, making the money that we're making. Like literally, let's see, we looked at it. I think Brett, we looked at my career when we were at, or looked, talked about it at Chicago and I'm like, oh, I think I raced for 10 years and we're like, no, it's actually only eight. So like from, from start to finish.


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[Assistant] It was like eight, eight years, I believe, I think we came up with, you know?


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[Assistant] Trying to maximize your revenue is what these guys, I mean, I know that you just shouldn't, I mean, I always raised for money. I don't think it was a problem.


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[Assistant] Because let me, let me tell you, I mean, I know Ricky probably, you've been doing TV for a long time, but like there are some days where it's like, dude, what do we do? Just stare at the wall? Like,


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[Assistant] So I do think that like prolonging the career is a good thing, but just having real, real


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[Assistant] Expectations on where, where these finishes are like, you know, like to, to, to look back at Jeremy and be like, Hey, this year for Supergrass, you're going to be in contention for the Supergrass championship in the lights class. That's super far-fetched for me. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't gamble that. I would say, I would tell him, that's a long one, buddy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but to top 5 every time, 100%, put yourself in a good position for SMX rounds and you walk away with, you know, two, three hundred grand. Like that's a plus your salary. Like I think that had no calculated decisions.


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[Assistant] Yep, but it's a different mentality and why I say it's a different mentality is, is what Ricky just brought up. Like I was kind of maybe the last one of that, of that mind.


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[Assistant] These guys today, uhm, I, I feel like you have to, you also, you gotta bring them down in, down into the trenches. You gotta show them what that, what that is. And now I think we're,


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[Assistant] It, you know, there is something to be said about, you know, do it smarter, not harder in, in, in some scenarios. Um, and I think that is a benefit in some scenarios, but other, other scenarios that I see with these younger kids is, is, and just watching all the way through the lights class, all of them, every single one of them, not writers.


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[Assistant] Pickin' him alone, but like, you know, Joe, Levi, Max, Swole, you know, like these guys, like,


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[Assistant] They don't know exactly, they don't know how deep they have to dig.


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[Assistant] The difference in mentality from when like I came up and Ricky came up was is we, it's just always harder, more, more, more, more.


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[Assistant] He'll be good on the weekends, where now I think it's a little more calculated. I think we were, all of us are more, are a lot smarter when it comes to like, Hey, we can't just burn the candle at both ends. But when we do.


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[Assistant] We have to leave every single rock, you know, we have to unturn every single rock out there. We can't leave anything out on the track because


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[Assistant] Yep. Some of these guys are riding one to two days a week, depending on how they're feeling and what travel and, and the whole thing. So just, it's all changed.


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[Assistant] That, that Joe, being that, uhm, you know, Hunter is now out, uhm, we have Hayden, right? We have Hayden still in the mix, uhm, in that Lights class. But ultimately, like, this is kind of Joe's, this is his time, right? He's been in the Lights class for quite a few years.


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[Assistant] Uhm, more than quite a few, but he's been in the lights class for a handful of years now. This is his time.


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[Assistant] Okay, 81, 81 gate drops, and this is his time, right? And, and to Ricky's point, like, let's use star. We already know star is, is probably top cream of the crop when it comes to horsepower, uhm, you know, off the line, uh, and then


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[Assistant] Joe, for example, like, I do think he's on the third best horsepower motorcycle, uhm, currently. And, I think that, with the added pressure of him kinda being the guy, Hunter just left.


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[Assistant] Won championships, Jett won everything, and now he's moving into that, fill their shoes.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he's not only gonna have a new motorcycle to learn, but he's gonna have that added stress and pressure that you just brought up of producing wins and a championship like they hired him to do.


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[Assistant] So, I don't know if Je- or Joe has ever been in that position of, of...


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[Assistant] Of like the premier top guy, the one that is expected to win. And as you know, that brings a whole different set of challenges every single weekend you show up as you're the guy.


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[Assistant] You know, I think, I, I think good guidance. I, I honestly, that's, that has been Levi's biggest, his biggest issue, right, is, is not being able to back either weekends up or, or motos up, right? So.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I, I don't, I haven't spent a lot of time obviously being based in Florida. He is, uhm, you know, it's, I, I couldn't, can't tell you that, that, what that issue is. But what I'm hoping for is, is Mitch's team and those guys can,


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[Assistant] Uhm, other than here. So you need to make this work. And if he can do it one moto, he should be able to do it more than, more than that. So that's maybe what, what Mitch can bring. Maybe there was something that Star was missing that Levi needed and Mitch will be able to provide that.


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[Assistant] Like I said, I can't really, um, you know, do a deep dive into what he's missing over at Star just because they're, you know, they're 3000 miles across the United States. So, um, but no, I think he is, he reminds me of Kevin Wyndham. I always say that like Levi's like the new age Kevin Wyndham that can scrub. So I'm hoping his team do better.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, that's a tough one. Especially, you know, being on a factory team, being, you know, with that factory pressure, like Ricky said, they expect you to put their motorcycle up front because they have a lot of pride in what they build.


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[Assistant] And, uh, hasn't been able to do that. Uh, he's had some pretty decent runs and, and, and races. I know the kid's talented. Uhm, but back to what you said, like, I, uh, or what I had said, uh, about, you know, the grittiness, the tough, the...


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[Assistant] The, you know, the never say die to dig as deep as possible. That's what I feel like that Max is lacking a little bit, right? And a lot of these young kids, it's not just Max alone. Every single one of them on this sheet of paper that we're looking at.


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[Assistant] It's a different generation than the way I was raised or the way Ricky was raised.


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[Assistant] So, you know, I feel like these guys, but talent is there, speed is there, but there's some other pieces of the pie that are missing. Uhm, you know, his dad's of, uh, you know, a great asset for him and moving over to Mitch, I feel like potentially,


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[Assistant] No, he's, he's really good. And I, and I didn't know. Yeah. I mean, I didn't know all of that information, but yeah.


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[Assistant] You know, like to throw them into the deep end like that and, and when you're not ready and then, you know, keep showing up and getting, getting your ass kicked every single weekend and then pretty soon we see them in the top 10 and now we see them in, you know, up in the top fives.


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[Assistant] You know, like, you know, uh, doing very well. So does that trajectory now, does that, does that really kind of get the afterburners kicked on with this new team, you know, new motorcycle, new, you know, new, uh, you know,


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[Assistant] First full season, yeaah, first full season, first, uhm, I guess to your point, real supercross, whoops, and a whole nine yards. Uhm, you know, I think that Ryder,


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[Assistant] The, the, the, the reality of it was is, you know, once you got out there to, to, to see it, feel it, live it, smell it and, and it was a,


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[Assistant] It was a big, big, uh, big to swallow, right? Like to, to see where, where we came from and where we have to be and where we have to be to, to get up into that mix. So I thought Ryder did, did, um,


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[Assistant] You know, not, look, I would have liked him to do better quicker.


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[Assistant] But this class is tough and like we're dealing with, you know, like I, like I had mentioned before, these younger writers, different mentality than what I was brought up with. So figuring how to maximize and pull the best out of them.


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[Assistant] Is the challenge from, from, from a mentor's standpoint and, and I think that,


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[Assistant] Another writer, you know, writer, writer himself, Kawasaki his entire career, right? From.


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[Assistant] 18 years old now, but he's literally from five years old. He didn't even, you know, he's playing dirt bikes in the ground and.


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[Assistant] You know, in the dirt and watched it all the way come up, so I don't know if he...


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[Assistant] I think now he realizes the significance of it, how hard he's gotta dig, where he's gotta go mentally to be that guy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and Ricky, and I bring a point of like, I see what's a trend in Europe compared to what's here is like to your point of, of Max Volin pulling them out of amateurs and plopping them in, in, in the, onto the big stage.


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[Assistant] For example, look at uh, Liam Ebritts. Like he raced a lot of, quite a few gate drops or I wanna say a couple years before he is the title contender like he is now.


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[Assistant] And I see like, you know, use Max, Ryder, uhm, some of these, you know, even Levi a little bit, you know, like I feel like, like we expect the US, like, and this is how I was bred, like, you know, like dude, we're going to Anaheim, we're going to be up in the, we're going there to win, we're going up there to be in the top five, right out of the gate, right out of Loretta's.


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[Assistant] And I think that is, that's a lot of pressure and a lot of expectation and maybe a little bit of unrealistic expectation where


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[Assistant] You know, when you see these guys that like, like Max, like Ryder, like, like Levi that haven't done road to their potential, but they're slowly building on it. And if these guys in these teams and, and we start to realize that like not every kid is going to come out like a deacon, like it's,


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[Assistant] Realistically, I was the last person that came out swinging like vegan, almost. That was that consistent, that won that many races, you know, that have done that well. And that's, those are far and few between. So now we gotta build the guys up that aren't, don't come out swinging like that.


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[Assistant] That have the potential, we gotta build them, nurture them, and get them to where they need to be.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, look, we got, we got Jaleek Swole. Uhm, you know, I've watched...


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[Assistant] You know, like man, he, interesting guy out there to be honest, like cause he'll be nowhere to be found and then all of a sudden he'll rip a good start and he's running up front and he'll be up front for quite a while. He doesn't.


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[Assistant] Have the stamina yet, you know, like I think the, that's, that's from what I could tell, you know, the little that I've seen him, like he's got the speed, he's got the talent, but doesn't have the,


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[Assistant] Did you go from the turn or did you come from the straightaway? Oh dude, I wasn't doing that. No, hell no. But I feel like for me, I mean I wasn't on the bike, but I feel like I'd have a better chance of greasing it if I...


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[Assistant] Because like coming off the straightaway where you came from and cutting through, like I feel like you don't know, right? You don't go way too fast. And like out of the turn, you're like, okay, it's looking at it. Okay.


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[Assistant] Interesting to see. What I'm looking forward to is, is obviously I'm hoping to see a lot of these, you know, supercross videos, just like the trans worlds or the, the swap moto lives, the racer X to see kind of, I know we've seen Levi out at, at Paula the other day, you know, uh, TLD and riders.


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[Assistant] So, you know, those are the cool things. This is the off-season, right? There's not much going on. So I look forward to seeing the...


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[Assistant] Those, those behind the scenes, you know, old, you know, not old, but behind the scenes riding videos of Supercross, Motocross, these guys getting, developing and getting, you know, they get to see their new looks, new gear, maybe new numbers, new bike, uhm, that's all the exciting stuff for, for the off season for me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, obviously you gotta say Australia too, right? But who's, who's it? Todd Waters? Who's their third?


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[Assistant] I don't know either, but so they should be pretty strong. Obviously France, they're going to come out swinging. It's, it's home soil.


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[Assistant] I think so. I think, I think we should do a deep dive maybe into MXON and, and, and really, you know, get some, explain the fans how.


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[Assistant] How FIM rules are and, and, and park for May and if literally if you're one second, I know people have heard this, but not probably from us or in depth like that, but like when we, when the US goes over to, to, you know, Europe,


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[Assistant] Um, there's no bad blood or anything, but our target on our back is absolutely news. We, we are the pinnacle of, of two wheel motorsports and supercross motorcross is here in the US supercross. Now we have the SMX finals and we got outdoors, right? And as you see.


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[Assistant] Kenny, you know, uh, Ferandus, uh, Joe, like, they come here if they're, if they're capable of riding Supercross, partly because the money is, is, is, is better.


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[Assistant] And, um, you know, it's living in the United States, right? It's the place everybody wants to be. So, um, I think for the US guys going over to England, it was always one of my favorite races, but man, the load and pressure.


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[Assistant] Of, of per-performing, uhm, over there as you know is, is, is none, eh, there's not another race like it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, and the deep dives, you know, like the stories, I think, I think, uh, fans and listeners.


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[Assistant] Probably, uh, you know, that was, that was kind of, that was a, I wouldn't call it a huge deep dive, but more than we've done in the past.


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[Assistant] I would love to see, you know, Brett or Clint and, and, and, you know, us really deep dive into say your career, my career and having to pull up maybe some old footage and maybe this is, I'm talking off season stuff guys to keep you guys, keep the listeners, keep the fans engaged.


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[Assistant] And also uncover stuff that's never really been talked about or heard or, uh, or seen, you know, just like, uh, what Brett did with, with that write-up and story on, on yourself.


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[Assistant] Hello everyone, welcome to episode 31, season 1, our final one of the season, but title 24 presented by NBC Sports. I'm Ricky Carmichael alongside my co-host Ryan Villapoto.


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[Assistant] Thank you guys for tuning in today. Before we get going, as always, we got to thank United Motorsports quad lock case.


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[Assistant] And Boxo USA, thank you for your partnership and sponsorship, uh, for this first season. And hopefully you guys will be back.


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[Assistant] For season two, but although this is the final episode of the season for us.


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[Assistant] Uh, we might pop in through the off season if there's some, uh, newsworthy stuff going on or if we have a special guest. So make sure you stay tuned to our socials and we will be on it. But, uh, step and ride in RV.


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[Assistant] Motocross of Nations is always a fun one, one of the best events.


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[Assistant] That, that I've ever been to, especially going to RNA, you haven't been taught, you never raced RNA.


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[Assistant] But, uh, was there any, uhm, anything that stood out to you? I mean, France obviously super dominant from a points perspective, dude.


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[Assistant] It absolutely off the chain. Pumping. Absolutely pumping. I mean, when I was there,


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[Assistant] Let's see here, that was 2005, I believe. Yeah, not 2005. I mean, it was very, very similar. Now I don't think it was as wild on qualifying day.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is. Yeah, Festival, you're, you're 100% right.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, no surprise to what you said. I mean, France is getting it done. Renault, Fabre, Vial, uhm, just epic, epic performance by the guys. From a points perspective, they absolutely crushed it. And, uh, you know, I don't know that it was because of their home country. I just think straight up that they, uh,


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[Assistant] They had, uhm, you know, they, they're just the better overall team, you know, of anyone. And that's not a slight towards the other riders. I mean, there's a slew of great riders, but their finishes were second to none, no doubt. It was cool to see. Like I said, I think they could have won, I think they could have won on anyone's, anyone's home turf. So, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, I think that, I didn't realize this, and did you know this, that, uh, Febra


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[Assistant] He had that more, better overall finishes throughout the MXGP season than, uh, Prado did. I didn't, I didn't realize that.


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[Assistant] I think that uhm, I think that for sure, you know, there is added pressure for motocross of nations. There's no doubt about that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I do feel that the MXGP series riders, championship riders have a slight advantage from, and we've talked about this, from how part 4 May goes and things you can do, cannot do, things you can do, uh, completely different. They're able to ride different bikes. They don't have a production rule like we do here in the States.


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[Assistant] Uh, with the AMA. So, uh, some differences there.


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[Assistant] I've never experienced it because I haven't raised MXGPs like you have. Uhm, I just, you know, I just know the different rules.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I don't know what advantages comes with that. I don't know what disadvantages come with that. You'll be able to speak on that on your behalf way more than myself. Is it a massive, is it a massive difference from a bike perspective? Cause we had a lot of questions from our followers about, uh, you know, like, Hey, we're jumping.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I agree. Well, I should say I agree with you what you're saying. The only difference I would say that I always remember or like I felt like there was a little bit of disadvantage from performance, but they were racing the same fuel. It was the fuel regulations and rules.


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[Assistant] That was really the only thing that I always felt like, ah, I wish that I had my, you know, my other, you know, my, my other fuel.


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[Assistant] I was at a disadvantage, like, if I was racing against Everts or whoever the hell it is.


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[Assistant] And at the time, I remember always going over there like Hyrule in 2005. It always seemed like the Yamaha has had some sick new.


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[Assistant] Uh, D-Max Fox Four, number one. I love the D- I think D-Max is a, uh, dude, that's a flex name. So, uh, congratulations on the quad lock question of the week. Final one of the season.


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[Assistant] And like I said, we appreciate it quite a lot. Thanks for, uh, thank you for.


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[Assistant] Doing that, uh, great ideas, uh, we appreciate you. Um, but getting back to it, um, yeaah, France, no surprise. I think, like I said, I'm gonna go out on a limb and I think they could have won on any home turf.


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[Assistant] Uh, but then we get to, uhm, let's just rip the bandaid off. That's Monday morning quarterback it, brother.


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[Assistant] It was tough, you know, we didn't announce our team till late.


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[Assistant] Uh, multiple reasons why couldn't send last year's team over. Justin Cooper was already getting married.


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[Assistant] Uhm, nothing wrong with that. Uhm, there you go. For those of you guys not watching, we are watching, uhm, or listen, just listening, we're playing a little replay of, of Team USA, Hampshire.


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[Assistant] AP, little bit of Christian Craig here, just some, just some B-roll cool stuff. But, uh, you know, I appreciate those guys stepping up.


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[Assistant] Basically volunteering to go and answering the bell when they were asked to represent the, the U.S. Uhm, what, I mean.


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[Assistant] If you got the horsepower to talk, then get after it, big dog.


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[Assistant] We went, to your point, we went there with the best team that we could or that was available to us.


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[Assistant] Uhm, listen, I'm sure if, uh, Justin Cooper, we took last year's defending champions, uh, if they didn't have conflicts, I'm sure they would have more than, than happily have been there, but it didn't work out. There's always next year and, uh, USA will have their glory.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say this, I saw a little interview, uhm, and I want to get in the weeds with this. I want to cause some friction today.


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[Assistant] Uh, with, with RJ and he was talking about the track on qualifying day and he


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[Assistant] I think, listen dude, I think the best riders in the world, uh, find a way to adapt to it.


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[Assistant] That track is narrow, super narrow from a racing perspective. This is, uh, we got a little clip here we're watching of Saturday's qualification race. RJ was in the lead. He lays it down on a look, looks like a flat little slippery right-handed, uh, sweeping corner going up to a face of a jump. Making a couple mistakes there in the turn just before that little double.


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[Assistant] And then I can't, yeaah, I don't really see how.


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[Assistant] Look, number one, I like track. Track Race is Narrow. I've been there. It's a super narrow track, a fun track, and RV, you and I were having this conversation. I think you would have loved it. It's one of those tracks where you can make up a lot of time. Now, it's gnarly. A lot of steep uphills, a lot of steep downhills, some great rut corners.


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[Assistant] Uh, some tight corners where you can get into the corner really hard, harder than your competition, come out of the corner harder.


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[Assistant] And faster than your competition, just there's a lot of elements rather than a fast, wide open, smooth track where everyone can go fast. I feel like from a technical standpoint, uhm, the guys would love racing on this type of track because there are so many options to, you know,


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[Assistant] You know, it's like all the time, like oh my god.


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[Assistant] Gosh, a lot of times you hear people complain about, dude, there's nothing to separate the riders. Well, this is the perfect track for it, in my opinion.


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[Assistant] And he beat up the track a little bit, RJ did and.


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[Assistant] Dude, at the end of the day, you have to find ways to, uh, you have to find ways to be better than guys. I watched Ken Rox and do it. You watch, you know, we, we, you watch Ken Rox and do it. You watch Jeff Lawrence do it. France didn't have a problem. A lot of other guys from other countries didn't have a problem. You just got to figure it out.


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[Assistant] I remember when I went to St. John or St. Jean.


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[Assistant] Whatever you call it. I think we went there in 2000, 2000 I think.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, hot, really hot that day, but to your point it was like, dude, rocks everywhere.


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[Assistant] Uh, but it was fun and, and all the other two guys adapted as well and we were just as good, if not better than the rest.


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[Assistant] I mean, we didn't completely clean house, but we, we won the damn race and we figured out a way to get it done to your point. And, um, you know, we, there was nothing like that on the promoter cross championship side of things. Uh, but I will say this dude, and I've always thought this from day one.


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[Assistant] Uh, throughout my time racing the motocross of nations and I would love to know your opinion on this RV as I always thought and felt like.


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[Assistant] When I went to the motocross of nations, you, those guys rose to a different level than maybe what they race like at, at a normal MXGP national or a world championship race. I really truly believe that. Cause I'm like, I'd be battling with some cat, right? I'm like.


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[Assistant] Who the hell is this guy? Like I don't even know who he is, right? He was nowhere in the championship.


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[Assistant] But I feel like that's the case and I go and I'm gonna use this guy.


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[Assistant] As an example, because he was a pro motocross, he is in Europe, he races in the US now and that's Tom Vial. I feel like he rode better this past weekend and he re-rode at


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[Assistant] Most of the races this year did good at a couple of races for sure, but I expected him to put in better straight up.


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[Assistant] Because of his credentials, I expected him to ride a little more like he rode in race this weekend. I expected to see that more out of him.


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[Assistant] Uh, through the Pro Motocross Championship. Now, I've heard a couple things and this goes to, uh, D-Max's quad lock question of the week.


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[Assistant] I heard that he always had thought that his MXGP bike was better than his US bike.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I feel like the Euro guys definitely ride a lot more on emotion than U.S. guys, or at least in your My Day RV. Like, what do you think?


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[Assistant] I feel like dude, why all of a sudden are you riding so hard now when you couldn't, you weren't even in the top five in the MXGP championship? You know, it's like the out, like dude, if I'm Raj and I'm Ian Harrison, dude, I'm fired up.


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[Assistant] I'm like, why the hell aren't you riding like that in Pro Motocross Championship, dude?


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[Assistant] Yep. 100%. I'll tell you what though, dude. Do you ever feel like if there's one team or country that


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[Assistant] All the, every other country wants to be that's US.


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[Assistant] That's, that's right. Uhm, alright, gotta give some glory to, uh, Australia. Hell of a ride. I mean, for me... Best finish yet.


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[Assistant] Yep, that's best finish yet. Great job by, uh, the Lawrence Brothers and, and Dean, Dean Farris. Hell of a job. Uhm, off the count of two.


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[Assistant] Sixth in race one. Now, he fell the first moto. There we go. We're watching a replay.


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[Assistant] He fell down and I want to be crystal clear when I talk about this. Okay, remember now we were just talking about how well everyone rides at the motocross of nations. We feel it brings out the best in all these riders, which.


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[Assistant] Sadly, it shouldn't be that way. They should ride hard at all the races. But with how narrow this track races, you know, like,


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[Assistant] I think Jet did a hell of a job. He came back from way behind, got passed by all those dudes, and then of course,


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[Assistant] The second time in his final moto, he went out and did what he always does, him and Kenny. You know what? They went, uh, well, Kenny got, uh, he got third. No, he got second. So they went one, two. So I mean.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of people are going to be like, oh, you know, MXGP riders are better, but outside of


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[Assistant] Of jet crashing, I mean, it is kind of a spitting image of what we saw in the promoter cross championship. You know, if we're going to play the game of who's, who's better, you know, the Europe guys or, or USA guys or the promoter or the US champion. I don't know. Like I hate having that debate, but this wasn't a surprise to me.


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[Assistant] And that leads me to my next, so let's go to, uh, answer some fans here. Uh, Mickey's underscore D, since we're already talking about it. Has Jett Lawrence proved he is the fastest in the world? What do you think?


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[Assistant] I don't know, I think he is, I think he is, I think it, uh, he's proven it several times. I go back to he fell, he fell that first moto, marched all the way up, finished respectively, hard to do, one of the hardest races of the season.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and he went out there, the second moto, and backed it up. I mean, those were the best guys. I mean, the only other person that wasn't there.


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[Assistant] I mean, if Tomac was there and Sexton was there, that'd be great. So I don't know. I, I'm, I'm like, here's my, here's my thing, RV. I'm like, dude, he's earned the right for that. And I give him that respect. It's just like the defending champion going into Monster Energy Supercross next year.


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[Assistant] Okay, I am going to give chase the credit that he deserves. He's defending champion. He owns that. So.


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[Assistant] If you want to be the best in Supercross, you gotta go out there and beat the dude. He's earned that right. So that's where I'm at. That's where I'm at with Jett, dude. So we'll see.


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[Assistant] Uh, he says, does Kenny carry momentum and resurgence into 2024? What do you think?


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[Assistant] Overall, I will say I think he's in the best head space that he's ever been in, I think.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that, yeaah, I think, uh, I think that he does carry the momentum.


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[Assistant] I certainly do. Uh, we'll be interesting to see if there's a much improvement with the bike and HEP has done a fabulous job.


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[Assistant] I know you have a great relationship with them and they, they have massive kudos to them. Like I said, not easy to do a rider, a rider. I know I'm kind of regurgitating what you're saying, but a rider of Kenny's caliber. Yeah. There's a, uh, there's a standard there.


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[Assistant] And they definitely have answered the bell. They got great crew over there. They stepped their crew up for sure. Great personnel. So uhm,


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[Assistant] I think, uh, Kenny's gonna carry that, uh, I think he carries the momentum in there because I mostly think it's from a mental standpoint. I really do.


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[Assistant] I don't think his bike's the best out there. I think it's good, but I don't think it's any better than any other bike. And I think it's straight up upstairs of why he's doing good. He's in a good head space. He loves what he's doing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I think it's gonna be tough for him, straight up. I do think that, uhm,


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[Assistant] I think it's going to be hard to go 17 rounds in supercross, 11-12 rounds for motocross, and you got playoffs, SMX playoffs.


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[Assistant] Uhm, to stick with it that long, I think it's going to be challenging for him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and especially if something goes wrong, if things aren't 100% right, if there's anywhere that he needed to be better, that's where he probably should focus on.


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[Assistant] So, uh, but yeaah, I think he'll come out firing, beginning like he always does. Dude, there's a little report, switching gears.


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[Assistant] About Prado. I heard that he's gonna be in Cali. And he's gonna be riding the 450.


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[Assistant] If the 450, uh, test evaluation goes good, that we would perhaps see him here racing in good old USA.


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[Assistant] What's your thoughts on it? Do you, I mean, how do you think that the, how do you think the test will go? And do you think that he should just stay in Europe?


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[Assistant] Oh yeah, 450 supercross racing. It is definitely different than going out to the test track in Carolina, but wherever they're based out of and, uh, and, and, and riding. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's uhm, it'll be interesting. So that is for 450 Supercross. I hope it goes good. I hope he stays safe. Super talented. I think for our series, it'd be cool if he could come over and do that. So let's hope that it goes good. Last question.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a spectacle for sure. That race is a spectacle. And if anyone, even the US fans, if you guys ever have an opportunity to go


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[Assistant] There to RNA go there. It isn't. It is.


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[Assistant] What would you say would be a good, like another race that our US fans, if they had an opportunity to go to, I mean, you've been over there, where would you, where would you recommend that they go save up and go?


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[Assistant] Yeah, make sure you, uh, plan to everyone watching or listening to Title 24. When you go to that race, make sure you plan on, you are going to sit in traffic for a while soon.


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[Assistant] Do not get in a hurry, but it is one of the most epic races that you could ever attend.


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[Assistant] Switching gears, back to the US side, little SMX talk.


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[Assistant] Now the, uh, video, raw footage of Monster Energy Supercross Champ Chase Sexton. He has finally debuted on his Red Bull Factory KTM machine. What'd you, I mean, I know it's just video, like, what'd you, dude, like, you said somebody looked pretty good on it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, Brandon Zimmerman, his mechanic left, uh, HRC to come with him. Uh, not a surprise. I think that's a good play. I think that's a good play for not only Chase, but smart for KTM. I'm glad that KTM let him do that. Uh, did you hear that little sound bite, uh, that KTM released?


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[Assistant] I heard myself on there, and I never got a letter asking permission for them to use my name and likeness, so, uh, they'll be hearing from my legal team, uh, this week. Perfect. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Like, you know, I got some bills to pay. That's right. You know what I mean? I need a new, I want to up my studio game for season two for title 24. Could use a few new, new little cool things. So, uh, yeah, you guys would be hearing from me just a heads up, immediate response.


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[Assistant] Oh dude, so this is that time of year, uhm, like bootcamps, uh, off-season prep starts for Asimax. I think, uhm, you know, I think we get going.


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[Assistant] When you were with Elden, when I was with Elden, I feel like we always started our off-season training camp around like Halloween and then we would go to...


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[Assistant] Like December, like right around Christmas is when it would end and we'd have like a two week, just normal, you know, regular season routine, uh, before the season. Is that how yours was?


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[Assistant] Yep. It'll be interesting. So this is the time. Hopefully everyone will stay healthy.


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[Assistant] So that was great. I saw that little vid that, uh, that he was back. Good to be, good to have Eli back on the machine. So uhm, it's gonna be fun to see all these new seats and faces.


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[Assistant] All these riders changing. Uhm, dude, it's been, it's been a fun season. It's been a fun season.


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[Assistant] I'm thinking like, if there's any writers that, uh,


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[Assistant] Are upset with anything that we said and, and, and didn't like to hear our honesty.


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[Assistant] I'm always willing, I'm sure you're willing to have him like, dude, let's do a special edition. Come out here and tell-


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[Assistant] Tell us why we, we might be wrong or you think I'm wrong. Do you welcome that combo?


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[Assistant] Bring it on, bring it on big boys. Well again, thank you very much to United Motorsports quad lock case.


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[Assistant] And of course, Boxo, we appreciate you. All of our fans, truly all season long, it's been a lot of fun.


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[Assistant] You know, when RV and I, uh, got this thing going and with the help of NBC Sports, you know, we were just kind of getting our feet wet, but hopefully that all of you guys have enjoyed our content. That's what it's all about.


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[Assistant] You know, RV and I love sharing our experiences with you guys. Uh, fortunately for us, we've done a great job.


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[Assistant] Uh, we were very fortunate throughout our career and just wanna, like I said, share our insight. So, uh, hopefully you guys have enjoyed it, whether you're watching.


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[Assistant] Uh, listening, we definitely will, uh, we'll be staying in touch throughout the break. Make sure you pop into the, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, title 24, uh, Instagram, of course, follow RV, follow myself. Uh, we're all over social media. Uh.


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[Assistant] That's right, we'll be doing it live someday, so. We appreciate you guys. That's it for uh, Season 1, Episode 31, Title 24, uh, like I said.


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[Assistant] It's great to be up here and, uh, yeaah, that was a great moto, uh, gotta thank the team, uhm.


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[Assistant] Uh, before we get going, as always, we've got to thank, uh, Yany Motorsports, QuadLock Case, and of course, Boxo USA. We appreciate your guys' partnership. Uh, we got a really fun show today. Uh, some great guests, uh, we're really excited about. I think you guys are gonna enjoy that later on in the show. But, uh, before we get to that,


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[Assistant] Uh, RV, welcome back to the States. You were at, uh, VX, uhm, ON.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it looked, it looked like a lot of fun and the weather, it was pretty good on the race day, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I raced there RV and, uh, it kinda sucked because it rained.


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[Assistant] Right. Practice and qualifying day was awesome, but I raced there in 98 for the motocross of nations.


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[Assistant] I don't know how much time you spent at Gator back. It was very similar to getting back a long time ago. So nevertheless, it was, uh, it was a lot of fun.


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[Assistant] Let's do it. I'd love, hey, I would love to go back there. I, I thought that track was awesome. Anything, it can't be as new as 2003, you said?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I love it. Maybe next year, uh, schedule permitting, we'll be able to do that. And I think it is time to bring our special guests in. And this week we are so pumped.


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[Assistant] To bring in the two newly crowned Promoto Cross Championships, the 450 division, 250 division, Jett and Hunter Lawrence.


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[Assistant] Alright, two special guests today on Title 24 RV, and man this is gonna be a good one. Boys, Hunter, Jett, Lawrence, the two.


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[Assistant] They're iron man, uhm, pretty, I mean, obviously you got the championship, congratulations, but really as a recap, pretty uneventful other than that, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, in a few minutes. Jet, so, uh, a lot of talk, obviously, about going undefeated. Congratulations on that. Hell of an accomplishment, especially


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[Assistant] Like, I know every weekend has its challenges, right? And you, you racing the 450, I know you spent a lot of time leading up to the series, basically riding on the, uh, on the 450 prepping. But what do you think looking back?


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[Assistant] On the championship was your biggest challenge overall, like take 24 and 22 and O go take it out of the equation.


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[Assistant] What were your biggest challenges, do you think, from the championship?


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[Assistant] I don't feel like you looked that comfortable at the first two rounds like you did from the third round on.


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[Assistant] So was there ever a point in time or like maybe the first two rounds were harder and, and, and you were learning the bike in a race situation or not really? Is that, am I just seeing things?


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[Assistant] Did that, did that break looking, was that a blessing in disguise?


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[Assistant] For the Lawrence family. For you, Hunter, for locking up your first, uh, Promota Cross Championship. Jet, for you, uh, going undefeated. But then you guys have a, uh, like a little go-kart race. And Jet, you, you wanna, you wanna talk about, like, just,


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[Assistant] Uh, after Two Wheels is over? Wanna talk about that?


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[Assistant] One last question pertaining to the Pro Motocross Championship. Uh, Hunter, was there ever, was there anything that outside of the DNFs


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[Assistant] Or by, or the mechanicals, was there anything that caught you off guard or surprised you, um, about the championship and, and just the, the Pro Motocross series in general? My good luck.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Some of them have good looks.


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[Assistant] And the inaugural season of the SMX World Championships, three rounds, kind of a hybrid track.


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[Assistant] What you guys is, uh, Jett, you go first. There it is right there. You guys tuning in. The people who are listening on Amazon Music.


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[Assistant] And 450 class prize money per rounds, 404 grand total points fund, 5.5, uh, million. So, uh.


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[Assistant] What is, uhm, let's see here, since you're gonna do the 250, uh, let's start with you, Hunder. What are your, what are your thoughts? Are you assuming that it's going to be like if you, if you had to guess based on what you've been heard told and, and knowing the hyper track?


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[Assistant] I mean, you went to the championship, world championship and you know, 500 grand what for, for the title. That's nice.


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[Assistant] So for you on the 450, uhm, what do you, are you kind of expecting the same now that you've seen track designs, like what's your anticipation?


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[Assistant] So I could race like two or three, uh, west coast races, but I just couldn't accumulate a certain amount of points. So one of the races that I did was the, uh, LA Coliseum. It was, uh, cool. It's just a historic place. So, uh, it's, it's going to be, it's going to be fun to watch you guys. Uh, uh, another topic similar to the go coast.


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[Assistant] Hey, so who, like California, who's California state champ? We haven't really done one in California.


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[Assistant] Who is the most honest player? Like, who putts it out? Like, does Mertz putt it out? Is he like, oh that's good?


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[Assistant] If he goes OB, does he drop it like in the middle of the fairway or does, or like one of those guys or does he drop it like right in the back?


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[Assistant] Anywhere, they, dude, they get ripped off by me, you know why? Because I, it's like per swing, I'm for sure.


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[Assistant] Maybe, maybe you can get bounded or whatever, so.


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[Assistant] It's probably so cool for you guys to go back down and look at those old pictures and stuff and just see how far you've come. That's awesome. That's awesome.


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[Assistant] Okay, cause Barbie and I will probably be enjoying ourselves, you know, like.


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[Assistant] Fantastic. Both of you in the, uh, in the 250 Regional Supercross Championships and then, of course, the Motocross Championship. Uh, it's been fun to watch.


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[Assistant] Always fun to have those guys RV, right? They're, they're just like a ball of fun, dude.


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[Assistant] Charlotte, squaring off this weekend. Uhm, I want to, like, get your thoughts and I want to talk to you about, dude, the inaugural season of the SMX playoffs, round one starting, uh, September 9th.


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[Assistant] There's the lineup right there. You can see, uh, for a lot of people tuning in, and I don't know how many people knew this, but see, it's a points reset all the way on the right hand side of that chart right there. Hunter Lawrence comes into the, uh, SMX round one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, really long rhythm lanes right here, and you can see this, then a huge sweeper right here, and I think the key is, you know, having it being a hybrid track.


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[Assistant] This hybrid track, I'm all for it. I think it's great. I think it does cater in my opinion.


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[Assistant] In the 250 class, you tell me if I'm wrong. I think you, you take a guy like Hayden Egan who,


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[Assistant] I feel like he is, you know, letting it all hang out. He rides that fast pace.


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[Assistant] I think it, I think this is, fits right into his wheelhouse in my opinion.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, another thing too, thinking about if, say if the lap times are like a minute 20, I mean, just looking by that, I don't, I don't think that any are, any of them are going to be less than a minute. There's no way. Maybe.


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[Assistant] Maybe the Colosseum, but uh, no shot. That's going to be for Charlotte, Chicago, which is cool. That's what it's supposed to be a hybrid. So let's just say the lap times are 120 to 130, 20 minutes plus one lap.


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[Assistant] I know the laps are long and I know it's 20 minutes, but I don't know, like.


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[Assistant] Dude, that is awesome. That is so good. Man, that's gonna be fun, dude. That's gonna be good. I think you're gonna do great in there.


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[Assistant] I mean, you, you know, you're a multi, super cross champ, so you know.


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[Assistant] What about 450 for the first round of SMX playoffs?


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[Assistant] Jett obviously is the favorite and we have the quad lock question that we're going to save and it pertains to the SMX, uh, SMX playoffs. But uhm,


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[Assistant] What, what are you looking for? I know that, uh, Jet's gonna be squaring off against some guys coming in that he hasn't spent a lot of time racing, which always could, would, could put a twist in things. Now I sound like I'm trying to build some narrative, but, uh, I think,


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[Assistant] Better in SMX to unbeaten or do you think it's going to be harder to, uh, keep being unbeaten in SMX?


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[Assistant] That's good. That's some that I like that. Yeah, I like how you're calling it out there. Getting ready for that RDL. RDC dude. Just uhm, I mean everything you're saying is right. I can't, uh,


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[Assistant] Wanna, wanna take him down, and when I say take him down, you know, just kinda, you know, not let him not say let.


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[Assistant] He's, uh, he's great on, on all tracks. CooperWeb, he's gonna be on that new machine. What's that gonna look like? Uhm, but.


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[Assistant] He is. He's gonna be, uh, he's gonna be good. Uhm, so that leads me to the quad lock question of the week.


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[Assistant] Uh, SMX and, uh, Riley Stevens, 56, first and foremost, Riley, thank you for, uh, being a listener and a fan of Title 24 in our VNI. We appreciate your support.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Riley asks, how does Chase Sexton mentally reset coming into the SMX?


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[Assistant] It is, it is, and I'm gonna back you up in another layer to that is it's two motos, it's 20 minutes plus one lap. The field is going to be.


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[Assistant] You know, you take the double points on the second, the triple points on the third round. That's, that's where like you talk about mistakes.


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[Assistant] That's where you really have to eliminate him because they are going to sneak them at you if you do that the way that this format is. So he is going to have to be ultra focused.


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[Assistant] And really like looking ahead, and we talked about this on the show many times, RB, and you've, you've hit the nail on the head so many times about you, you can't assume anything. You have to guard on the fact that, okay, if the bike works,


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[Assistant] Weird here, you adjust your line for that. You know that you're running a tire that doesn't get good side grip. Well, don't lean the bike over going up the face of a jump that much.


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[Assistant] But I just feel like when you don't have that many laps, I, I just, to me, it feels like the race goes by so much faster. So it's, it's gonna be interesting. Uhm, and I'm with the way that I would look at it. So from when I was like leaving from one team manufacturer to another RV, like my mind was already gone. It was almost like damn, I'm losing time.


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[Assistant] He's losing a month to progress for the 2024 season now, a month in the line.


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[Assistant] Part of his mind's gotta be looking forward to switching teams and getting focused and looking forward to 2024, I would think.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, you know, Coop's tactical. He's a tactical rider. He plays, he rides, he's really good guarding, in my opinion. He guards, he guards that first, uh, P1 really well. Yeah, it's gonna be good. Uh, Riley Stevens.


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[Assistant] That's it for this week, RV. Now we go SMX, uh, playoffs. It's the inaugural season and it's gonna be a good one in Charlotte.


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[Assistant] It was just kinda learning this, uh, obviously how he kinda flows and kinda learning where


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[Assistant] That's yeah, no, that's right. Yeah. So we've got to a great birthday, low key weekend. Actually the, my, uh, my mom got to take the boys for a couple of days and we had no kids in the house. And then we did a little Duffy ride through the Harbor yesterday. So like I said, low key, had fun, got to watch the race. It was a epic weekend.


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[Assistant] Uhm, as a family coming from Australia to Europe, Europe here to the States. But uhm, you know, that's, that's hard. I mean, that, that just added, you know, it's just, it's so hard to win a 450 race, let alone a championship and then let alone on top of that.


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[Assistant] He's been undefeated at this point so far in the season. You know, there's no stopping the kid as of right now. His speed is better than everybody else. His strategy, his mental side of it, his smartness and quickness of thinking on the motorcycle is a step ahead of everybody currently.