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[Assistant] If you love Metroidvanias and you love, and you love Castlevania specifically and you want that steampunk aesthetic, you're gonna dig this game a lot. Tons of cool progression scale, uh, systems, uh, really great, beautiful pixel art. Uh, it's, it's phenomenal. And I'm so honored to say that I'm, I'm producing the game. So yeah, self plug, sorry.


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[Assistant] Yeah, GameSpot did a, uh, a highlight of it during the pandemic a couple years ago, but the game's changed a lot.


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[Assistant] Ralph, you, you saying that, I had no interest in playing the game. And now I have, now I'm intrigued. Now I'm, I'm genuinely excited to give it a shot.


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[Assistant] This Fortnite and Games, it's November you guys, which means that a lot of games came out during the holidays throughout our lives. And the list, the list is pretty impressive. Makes sense, yes.


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[Assistant] Two thousand. A little game. Twenty-two years ago.


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[Assistant] At completionist on social media or at the completionist or you can find me on YouTube at that one video gamer.


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[Assistant] In a way, kind of like the Doreni, then it's not like the Chimrin that they came from Somerset and the Oldmer and then just totally changed overnight. They're very- they were very similar in culture and appearance.


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[Assistant] To the Uldmer, so that's the ancestors of the High Elves, uhm, and that's kinda what you imagine. Then they move to the Heartland, they're one of the groups that


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[Assistant] There were Alid groups who actively denounced worshipping most of the Daedra, perhaps with the exception of Iridia.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, as you just said about light, so they, they believed in the four elements rather than earth, water, air, and fire. It was earth, water, air, and light. So they were obsessed with light and starlight. And you can see it in their technology with the, the welkin stones, the vala stones, the alyd wells and things like that. They were obsessed with.


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[Assistant] Well, before we get into the rebellion, I did want to say that like,


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[Assistant] The Alids is the perfect example of why the good Daedra were so important to the Kaima. Because having the good Daedra to guide them meant that they, it wasn't just outright Daedra worship. So, they were told, no, these are bad Daedra, don't worship these guys, use them to, you know, learn from them, but do not venerate them.


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[Assistant] And the A-Leads didn't really have rules like that. They would just follow whoever they felt like following and I think that's a big part of where it all went wrong. So...


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[Assistant] Well, a problem can arise from that as well, because if you allow some kings to worship certain Daedra, for example, it's clear that Moloch Baal was very important to a lot of the kings, especially in the most prosperous kingdoms, because if you think about it,


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[Assistant] The kingdoms that did the best were the ones who enslaved, dominated, turned to cruelty. And all it takes is one kingdom to incite the rebellion.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which, is it Saad? Is that the city that Alicia was in?


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[Assistant] I can't remember exactly which city she was in, but she was in one where it was really bad. So you know, one rebellion start.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that- and then it's shortened to Saad or something. But basically, yeah, so it's like, if you have unrestricted Daedra worship, all it takes is a few bad apples, a few kings to take it too far, you got your rebellion.


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[Assistant] Well, one thing is, from, I don't want to go too far ahead so I won't spoil anything, but, uhm, Umriel specifically says this about his father, uhm, He listed his bloodline in the Aelodun and spoke of his father, a god of the previous Kauper's world river, and taking great delight in the heavy ugliness which


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[Assistant] Taking- I'm getting mixed- Okay, I just read past the line, but basically, talks about how his father came from the previous Calpars world river.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's kind of design, cause I mean, Umarul's pretty short as well. He's not the tallest, he's like high elf height. Whereas you'd imagine being a bit more, like when you see some of the artworks, he's like towering over Pelennor.


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[Assistant] Plus, there isn't really other examples of towers changing the landscape dramatically. I dunno, that one, as far as I can think of anyway.


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[Assistant] It is kind of just weird in general because you don't have to have men on the end of every race name for humans. I mean, I think they know, you know, they know what they are. They don't really need elf written on the end.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well the way Alanor used to be described was very, very, like, alien, as opposed to Rivendell or Lothlórien type visuals, so.


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[Assistant] And all the, all the Breton kings are basically just Lord Farquaad as well.


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[Assistant] It's mostly just the hubris, you know, they get really powerful and excel and then eventually it's their own downfall, which is pretty much, you could say, the same for most empires in general. You know, they just expand so much until they die off.


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[Assistant] The last king of the Alids. He's actually involved in the downfall of the Elysian Empire, which is kinda cool.


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[Assistant] You'll have to show that meme I posted on, uh, on Twitter about, uhm,


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[Assistant] What, like the, the connection between Mankar Cameron and the A-lids. But uhm, basically, you can be like...


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[Assistant] Mankar Cameron claims to be a Bosmer, yet his skin is lightly tanned like an A-Lid, and his paradise looks exactly like an A-Lid city.


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[Assistant] The surviving alyds supposedly assimilated into ultima nobility on Somerset, which means Mankar could have met the Falmore. The alyds hate men and the empire, and so do the Falmore. Could the alyds be plotting the downfall of mankind by weakening the empire that wiped out the alyds?


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[Assistant] But yea, that's what's, like, that kind of makes Mankar Cameron a bit more interesting as well, rather than just being a random wood elf who for some reason was drawn to Mehrunes Dagon. Like, he's interesting, obviously, because of his commentaries, but giving him that extra motivation kind of like...


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[Assistant] I mean, you can look into the, like, Lori Arryn, you can, you can be like, oh, he actively took part in getting revenge against the Elysians. But then, you know, you can then say, oh, Aelyd's integrated in the nobility of the high elves and the Doreni and whatnot, so they could be involved any time the elves do something against men, but it's like, elves are gonna do that shit to


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[Assistant] Elves are gonna do bad stuff to men anyway. So, you know, it's hard to say it's the alyds. It's just kind of a romantic idea that they're still doing something.


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[Assistant] Same with the du- you know, people are the same with the duemos, that the idea that they're not completely gone is-


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[Assistant] So you're saying that Reamon's conception might be exaggerated? Or embellished? Oh, I think it's spot on to be honest. Yeah? The king making love to a hillock.


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[Assistant] But yea, to be fair, they were pretty distracted at that time in history anyway. That's true. What with the oblivion crisis.


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[Assistant] Actually, isn't the creation of Alteration a pretty cool story in that they were hiding from the Elysians and they used the Levitate spell? Am I remembering that correctly?


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[Assistant] So while you find that, I found the source as well. So the idea was that, uhm, it was the Siege of Bravil, or Braville? Braville? Braville. The Siege of Braville where an Elysian general, Tassus, uhm,


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[Assistant] Like putting them into schools is kind of weird in general, but like those spells were kind of founded there. But that's a cool story.


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[Assistant] To be fair, there were a lot of spelling mistakes. I mean, the source I was just reading had eyelids instead of eyelids.


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[Assistant] What, like just having a social life and leaving the house in 2020? Smile cause it happened.


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[Assistant] I mean yea, there's the Witcher TV show, which I hope nobody watched.


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[Assistant] I-I didn't get far enough to hear the song. I've never heard the song. Yeah, I don't wanna hear it. But uhm, it's a shame because that would have been great for a Witcher series on the channel.


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[Assistant] I need to find the exact source because it's been so long since I wrote about them. It's different.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, it's definitely different, but there was a, it's something about they could, they could store their thoughts in it, and then it was actually a prob, it could be a problem for mortals to, to read it, because it was a problem of capacity. I need to find the exact source now.


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[Assistant] That might be associated. Um, I don't know how, yeah, like when you need the information that you can easily find, it vanishes. Just like the Dwemer.


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[Assistant] It says, uh, overuse of these crystals can cause a problem of capacity for mortals, apparently, according to the events of ESO, which, this particular one I'm not familiar with, but there you go.


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[Assistant] Which, is that a derivative of Elnifex as well?


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[Assistant] Yeah, well everything I was gonna say from here is like a tangent. I was gonna say it's interesting that the Sloed derived their language from Elnifex as well, but these are not conversation topics to be having in our A-Lid video, so.


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[Assistant] I'm running the show today. I'm Jake Baldino from the internet game ranks, my own channel and this very podcast. I'm joined as always by Ralph, AKA skill up Gerard, AKA the completionist and


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[Assistant] Uh, the no girl podcast this time, unfortunately Lucy is doing this whole big giant bomb thing, the bomb-bomb-bombathon? Is that legal? Can I say that?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it goes around both ways. I mean, today I was listening to you on uhm, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, what is it called? Kind of funny. Yeah, you're talking about Gotham Knights and everything and how you're not like the biggest Batman person. So that's going to be an interesting conversation later on the podcast. Be sure to catch that. Uh, but like that, that's funny. Like how long have you been at this? You've been doing this for a while, right?


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[Assistant] Kind of, uh, it's been having a lot of issues. It had a DDOS attack right after launch, thanks to some jerks. Do you guys say DDOS or do you say DDoS?


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[Assistant] Uh, people have been starting to get some matches in. I got some matches in. Uh, some, some of the team at game ranks got some matches in. Uh, it's just in an interesting spot. It's like a weird launch, right? It's, it's, it's essentially.


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[Assistant] Overwatch 2 was kind of announced as it felt like this bigger thing with this whole PvE mode and what we got now essentially is to me more of like a foundation laying thing for their new free to play model and how that's gonna work and


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[Assistant] Yes, uh, from what I can gather, uh, cause I didn't have a lot of stuff to migrate, but it's like you can.


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[Assistant] Did you guys see that they're putting the Sanderson sisters, the witches from Hocus Pocus into Fortnite?


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[Assistant] But it's also like undercooked or it's not what their original plan was. It's like they just wanted to get


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[Assistant] The whole, they wanted, they wanted you grinding and battle passing and all that, but like, the one, I say that as somebody, the only thing I was looking forward to, cause I'm not like a big multiplayer guy, but like I like what they've done with Overwatch, uh, is the PvE mode, this like single player, possibly story based-ish PvE mode, which like,


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[Assistant] Uh, they had been able to go and shoot bots and enemies and stuff like that. Uh, so I was really looking forward to that stuff and that seems like that's still.


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[Assistant] I will say and again, I'm not super into the game, but like I did notice a difference.


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[Assistant] Jumping in, I was like, oh, this seems a little faster, a little crazier, but not.


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[Assistant] Crazy in the sense where everybody's just doing shit on screen. Uh, maybe it's because like I'm playing, I was playing with people who maybe knew what they were doing, but it definitely just seemed like cutting down a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it definitely, uh, it was, it's an interesting mode where it's like, it's kind of sticking to like what Overwatch is. It's very much like you need to stick towards a thing and like, you know, but I thought it was kind of creative. I only got in like one match of it or two matches of it, but.


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[Assistant] Pretty cool mode, so I'm curious to see like what else they can really do with that. Um, Gerard specifically, how do you think this is going to do now with Overwatch? So Overwatch 1, cool, great, it carved down its own thing, but Overwatch 2 launching like this while there's also so many other games begging for your time. Where do you think it's at?


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[Assistant] The power of Overwatch, like the fandom, I think the fandom can like deal with some bullshit, uh, because the game Overwatch 1 had its ups and downs, I'm sure, with meta and the community doing this, developers doing this. It's how it kind of goes for those games. I see it all the time when Ralph bitches about Destiny, and then he loves Destiny, and then he doesn't. Like, it's just how these things go.


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[Assistant] Bring in new people, even if right now it doesn't have like a ton of new stuff for people to go, oh wow, Overwatch 2, the free to play I think might.


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[Assistant] Bring some people in as much as I don't like the free to play model. I'm just, it's just not for me. I don't really play with these things. Um, do you guys think like Ralph, what about you?


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[Assistant] Yeah, the reports so far are coming out where it seems like some people are not having issues, but other people are definitely having issues where they're just like, I can't play the game I just downloaded, which I think is pretty terrible.


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[Assistant] About this whole thing, so we just put out the before you buy video on game ranks, uh, and more and more I have to like talk about and describe battle passes and I can't help but just like be bored as fuck talking about them because it just sounds like this like


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[Assistant] Homework like cho- it just makes things so complicated for only really the sense of monetization and keeping the hamster wheel spinning. And I just-


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[Assistant] Where I was like, I just don't like the free to play model. I wish I could just buy the game. People are like, stop complaining about the battle pass. The game is free. And I'm like, oh, that's right. So many people now are like growing up on Fortnite and Apex Legends. They don't care.


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[Assistant] So like, it's almost like some people, some player bases were like not around for like Battlefront 2 and, and then just the rise of more of the free to play model and how it had some growing pains and how sometimes it's like.


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[Assistant] I don't know, like I feel like I'm getting more and more like old man yelling at a cloud with it.


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[Assistant] They will be shutting down. It didn't take off like they wanted and it's going to be, uh, no longer accessible January, 2023 and refunds for all prior purchases will be refunded. Seems like a big fat L for Google. Uh, as you guys know it now, I think.


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[Assistant] Stick around. Blessing, what's your experience with Stadia? Did you mess around with it much?


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[Assistant] Failure point? That's what I think it was. I 100% think that that was the biggest thing. It was gamers buying into yet another ecosystem and having to own and purchase a game that exists only on that platform. Gerard, as someone big on ownership, and uh, you know, do you think that was definitely the nail in the coffin right from day one?


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[Assistant] I did a big video on it when it came out and then a year later I revisited it and both times, especially after everything was ironed out, like the streaming tech is very good. It's up there with the major players like, you know, xcloud or whatever it's called now, xbox game streaming.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's, it's there. It's, and you could tell that's where they spent the money. It was just the rest of it. It's streaming, I feel like.


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[Assistant] Asking to buy into an ecosystem just for that, I thought was insane from the beginning.


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[Assistant] Uh, in the sense where all the stories are coming out now, how like they almost had a Hideo Kojima exclusive game. Uh, the fact that they were reportedly spending upwards of 10 million bucks per game to get it on their platform, like Red Dead Redemption 2 and like the bigger Ubisoft titles. So it's just like aggressive.


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[Assistant] It's shutting down. The game we were working on for this is shutting down. So I think that's, that's a, that's a huge bummer.


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[Assistant] The biggest thing for me, the most unprecedented thing is the fact that they're offering, they're, they're refunding everybody. The refunds are rolling out by January. So you're getting a refund on hardware if you bought the controller or like the founders pack.


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[Assistant] Trying to maintain goodwill for gamers specifically because gaming is money and they know they have another plan down the line.


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[Assistant] I wonder if it depends on what if Apple does something, if Apple makes another big move or play into gaming deeper.


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[Assistant] Next up, we definitely got a lot of games to talk about that we have been playing this week. Uh, we preview Gotham Knights, but first kind of wanted to do a little bit of an indie check-in. I know a lot of you guys have been


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[Assistant] I kind of like that. I definitely think they could do a lot more with it, especially with just how satisfying it is to, uh, one thing I did want to touch on is how satisfying it is to move and dig. It's got that steam world dig type of thing that like tactile.


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[Assistant] And you can only grab a couple because your little jetpack can't go fast enough. So it's like, how many do I grab?


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[Assistant] FTL, like Faster Than Light, uh, Cannibal almost style too, where it's very pixelated, it's very like chill and dreary, not a lot of music, not a crazy amount of effects going on. The monsters that come to attack your dome are like these weird aliens that are very like, uh,


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[Assistant] Abstract, like dark, Cthulhu-esque. Shadow people. Yes. Exactly. Uhm, and I just get excited to do runs. Uh, Ralph, every time you do a run, you see the dome.


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[Assistant] Excuse me. We have Grounded hitting 1.0 for Xbox and PC. We have The Legend of Heroes, Trails from Zero for PS4, Switch, and PC. We have Moonscars for all platforms. We have Moonbreaker on PC. Valkyrie Elysium for PS4, PS5.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's good. We also have Marauders, uh, for PC. Overwatch 2, which we discussed. Nier on Switch, uh, I believe that's, uh, Nier Automata. Seems like that's getting received pretty well. And, uh, No Man's Sky hitting Switch. I'm definitely gonna...


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[Assistant] I'm gonna j-dive into that. Uh, we have a couple of games we've been playing this week, but uh, the first one I wanna kinda dive into is actually something that's not out. Uh, Ralph and I got to preview Gotham Knights, the new Batman game featuring not Batman, because he is dead. I don't know if you guys know that. But uh, just kidding.


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[Assistant] We got to play a like a pre-release version of the game. The game comes out towards the end of the month. And I got to spend about two and a half hours with it. Ralph, you probably got a little longer. I had like some tech issues. No, I think it's about the same. Yeah. Okay. If you watched my video on my YouTube channel or Ralph's video,


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[Assistant] We're kind of in the same boat on some aspects, but others not so much. Long story short for me, I'll go first. Uhm, well, I'm a little mixed on it. I really love Batman. I love the bat family. I love those stories, so I'm a little biased. It's very hard to not compare the game to the Batman games before it.


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[Assistant] Like Arkham Knight, uh, but as its own thing, it seems like a video game ass video game. Uh, combat seems alright.


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[Assistant] I need to spend more time with it. Unlock a lot of things to really see it all come together. It's simpler than Arkham Knight. It doesn't feel the same way. It's kind of its own thing. It's got a kind of...


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[Assistant] RPG, uh, really like MMORPG, like cool down abilities that you can cast, uh, that do certain things, uh, you know, like throw out some drones that will heal you and, uh, hurt some opponents or Nightwing has just like a cool elemental blast attack that will interrupt heavy attacks, like stuff like that. Um, it, I don't know the combat.


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[Assistant] It's the main crux of the game. Combat and some stealth. And it just, I don't know if it's gonna be enough. I found myself starting to get a little bored from it. Uh, I think...


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[Assistant] It, you know, I, I've, I was already like kind of arguing with people in my comments, which I shouldn't do, um, about.


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[Assistant] How, like some people are like, well the Arkham combat gets old after a while and I disagree because there's such a layer of kind of, I've said this before on this podcast, but you can play that game like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater if you're good.


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[Assistant] I like the look of this Gotham City. I like the distinct districts. I like that they're tying into the history, but I also just like all the neon and the smoke and it just, it just felt moody in a different Gotham City way.


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[Assistant] Well for me it was really because I found the city pretty lifeless once you got on the ground and stuff and like flying around on the rooftops there's like nothing really going on on the rooftops maybe you'll find a crate but the crate just pops like a weird


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[Assistant] So you go to the belfry, the home base and that takes place during the day. And that's where you follow up on clues, you talk to characters, you know, you change your equipment, you swap your stuff, you cash in.


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[Assistant] Like, we figured out the open world superhero game thing somewhat, where like, how you can be kept busy and how it can make sense, and I just didn't see a lot of it here.


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[Assistant] At least it's a competent game where I can punish some bad guys and see a story. Uh, there are some things that we couldn't cover in the preview, like story-wise, that like,


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[Assistant] I'm really excited to see where that possibly goes. Uhm, as someone who loves these characters and is always down for new interpretations of them, uh, I, I like seeing this Dick Grayson, this Barbara, like I, I wanna see where that goes and I'm gonna, I'm definitely gonna play it for that at the, at the very least. I think the only thing that's hard for me to get over is like the,


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[Assistant] Where I say video game ass video game, like the more cynical aspects of it where it does feel like...


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[Assistant] Some people in my comments were saying, they're like, oh, this almost kind of feels like AC Valhalla slapped on a Batman game, where I was like, what are you saying? And then I thought about it and I was like, oh, numbers, stats.


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[Assistant] Endlessness, you know, and I was like, okay, I can, I can see where that is for me. It's like the UI, the damage numbers. I don't care about the stats numbers. Like I need to play more of the game to see where that really.


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[Assistant] Does the combat get deeper? Do those stats matter? Does swapping your equipment matter? I'm looking forward to it. Like I liked what I played enough to want to pursue those questions more with the main game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'll say the exact same thing. The whole package could be much stronger. And if I was the type of person that like had a close friend and I played through games with them, I would be very excited. I would be like, I can't wait for you to be Nightwing and for me to be, uh, what did you refer to him as in your video? Robin three.


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[Assistant] Robin 3. You know? So, uh, I'd say definitely if, if, if you're watching, definitely stay tuned because we'll probably be talking about the full game pretty soon.


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[Assistant] Uh, so actually I want to move on to you briefly, blessing, uh, this week. You played FIFA 23. Now, as a non-sportsman here, I don't know about anybody else, uh, what's your experience and what made you jump into this one?


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[Assistant] Damn. Alright, well, Gerard, I wanted to ask you about Shovel Knight Dig. It's been out. I played a little bit on iOS. I've been playing the mobile version. You have a lot of experience with the series for all these reasons.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I still recommend checking it out. Definitely. It's, it's challenging. Uh, for me, I'm not like good at video games, but I found it pretty challenging. I agree with you on the items. That's where I kind of bounced off where I didn't find them too compelling. But, uh, I still would definitely say check it out. I, uh, would recommend, uh,


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[Assistant] So, thank you guys for being here. Blessing. Thank you very much for being here and being one of the replacement friends. You killed it. You crushed it.


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[Assistant] It helps if, if you, if you like what we're trying to do here, we appreciate you, but we will be back not next week, but the week after, because that's how we go. We, we leave you waiting for more. This has been the Friends Per Second podcast. See you next time. Tie your shoes and go to bed.


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[Assistant] With Amazon, with Amazon, like they pay, they're paying like a billion dollars, 250 mil for the rights and then 750 on however many seasons of Rings of Power they're gonna do. And like, I've seen the first episodes of Rings of Power and I really liked it. So maybe it's just me being...


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[Assistant] The thing, the thing that I don't want from this is I don't want Lord of the Rings to get diluted and broken apart into its constituent parts


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[Assistant] To make a product that's not gonna be good, and I specifically call it Star Wars in this, cause you know how I feel about Star Wars.


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[Assistant] You know, who's out there saying like Boba Fett is great? Who's out there saying that Obi-Wan was a great TV show if you get past, like if you have to say, if you get through the first X number of episodes to get a good TV show, I'm fucking not- What is this, a JRPG?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was gonna say. I'm fucking not doing it. Like, it should be like The Boys, where it's good from the get-go, cause it's designed like a TV show. That's what I'm afraid of.


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[Assistant] Conglomerates owning everything and owning IPs and it's like less investment seemingly in newer things. It's more, I need to, I need to own the rights to the big popular thing that people already know.


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[Assistant] Dude, no, it's cause I'm going on holiday tomorrow and so just, you know, unfiltered.


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[Assistant] Ooh, this sounds pretty- Well, hey, wait. You said main, right?


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[Assistant] Uh, cuz I, uh, I'm gonna be in New Joisey, uh, in a couple days, so I was hoping to pick some up, but...


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[Assistant] Like that trailer seems to be the thing that has resonated the most off Dead Island. And then the fact that that team went on to make Dying Light, which was a superior game in almost every regard.


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[Assistant] It's Evil Geppetto. Oh, like- Evil Geppetto. Evil Geppetto.


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[Assistant] First of all, needs a couple commas. All of that sounds awful to me. But I don't, I don't, I still don't know what it is.


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[Assistant] Maybe they're just trying to bury the old Lords of the Fallen. Cause that one wasn't very good.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Pretty much. I remember just being so like, like fantasy castles and medieval shit.


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[Assistant] And just, no, it didn't feel like good to play so I didn't play it for that long.


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[Assistant] Which I just don't understand when that man sleeps or how he's.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's an interesting one. I mean, it's, it's, it's, I dunno, similar vibes to George R. R. Martin being on the Elden Ring trailer, except I feel like Brandon Sanderson has way more involvement than George did in Elden Ring.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but no, I'm intrigued by it, I'm intrigued by it. Like, I lived with someone who painted a lot of models, and I texted him as Dave Dewitt from GameSpot, and I was like, oh my god, have you seen this one? And he was like, mate, I don't even have time to paint my real models, like, don't, don't do this to me. But, can scratch that itch, you never know.


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[Assistant] But then I feel like the people who are interested in Sonic, beyond the kids who really love the Sonic, uh, TV shows and whatever.


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[Assistant] I feel like the Sonic audience is kind of like people who are our age who are probably more likely to play God of War at this point.


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[Assistant] Dude, if we're talking about like, telltale ass games, the fucking Expans game looked incredible.


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[Assistant] That's cool. Yeah, I've never seen Killer Clowns, so I don't really have much of a thing to draw from, but that trailer looked pretty fun.


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[Assistant] It looked a little bit like an Assassin's Creed Ghost of Sushima thing. Uhm, I kind of worried a little bit. Yeah, Sucker and Away, but like I kind of worried when the trailer launched because it looked like one of those.


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[Assistant] Chinese mythology or even, uh, kind of that kind of world at all. The only thing I've ever seen is I've watched a TV show called Empresses in the Palace, which is like this big budget show from years ago.


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[Assistant] It's all about like, courtesans and stuff. It was really cool. But that's pretty much my only real, uh, exposure to it. And so I'm, I'm stoked for this one. It looks really cool.


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[Assistant] I feel like it's getting to the overexposed stage, which is what Warner Brothers does for every single fucking game they do. They put out too many trailers. Uhm, but no, I thought this one was a good one. And, uh, I'm, you know, and now the game is coming four days earlier. For some reason.


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[Assistant] Maybe that's why, maybe we fucking inspired him. He was like, hey, this podcast is, deems me worthy enough to follow.


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[Assistant] And it's like a wooden plank with little grooves in and they give you like basically big.


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[Assistant] Like thin glasses of little colsh beers and you get fucked on those while you wait three hours for your dinner, but it's great and I miss it.


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[Assistant] Which is honestly, it's fine. I'd spend a lot of money in vet bills this week. So, you know, that's fine. Delayed gratification.


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[Assistant] To be fair, I was late. I didn't reserve it until June. So, that's, that's on me.


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[Assistant] I haven't played, I haven't played too much of it I'll say, but it's, it is a golf game where you're a golfer at like the top of your craft and then you, uh, die. So you essentially end up in golfers, not paradise, not quite hell, purgatory.


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[Assistant] Golf 95 and, uh, uh, Tiger Woods games when I was younger with my dad. Uhm, I feel like it's, it's quite, it's quite a chill one. It's fun. And there's like different power ups you can get. There's, uhm, if you hit like certain idols, you get extra balls and stuff. And, you know, there's multiple ways to tackle each hole.


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[Assistant] I, I mean, I started playing it, I, it didn't click with me as much, like, I, I kinda bounced off after a little bit. I might go back to it, but honestly, I just...


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[Assistant] I don't know, there was something about it that wasn't quite there for me. I'm struggling to put a finger on what it was, but maybe it was just because I was so excited to play more Saints Row.


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[Assistant] I've only played three and four, I think probably four.


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[Assistant] Took me back in time and not in a good way. I think the writing is...


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[Assistant] I- like the level design is just boring and uninspired. I'm doing the same things over and over again. I don't care about why I'm doing it. And then the crust to this sandwich is that like,


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[Assistant] Still just chipping away at it though. It's mindless. It's-


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[Assistant] It's just, it's completely mindless and I can find myself just switching off and just, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Melting into my couch playing it and just not really paying attention to what I'm doing. So I feel like it's probably an okay podcast game. Shoot things, collect things, money goes up, territory expands, skip cutscenes.


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[Assistant] I don't know, it's a shame. Like no one ever wants to make a bad game. That's the thing. And like, you know.


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[Assistant] We were talking about this in the discord, like imagine if this fucking launched in February.


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[Assistant] No, but like, even the state it would have been in, like my game kept crashing in the fucking character creator and I was like...


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[Assistant] The thing that got me was like, the one mission where you have to go into like, what could have been a cool mur- kept calling it murder house.


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[Assistant] You go to this live streamed event to get more people to join the Saints.


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[Assistant] There is, uhm, one of the businesses that you get when you do insurance fraud is called Shady Oaks and next door to it there is a can, like a weed farm, a weed place called Shady Tokes and I was like, I like that. I like that. That's it.


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[Assistant] He's shirtless as a personality type. Yes!


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[Assistant] The crowds don't say anything. The NPCs. They don't say anything. They're completely fucking silent. And like, Ralph, you brought this up in your review. There's no music.


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[Assistant] Like in tons of like the big action set pieces, all you hear is the occasional yelp.


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[Assistant] We always used to take the piss out of Mike Mahardy when he used to work at Gamespot. He's at Polygon now. But he used to do these great videos, but his tagline was always like, giving X game a second chance. And so now sometimes, yeah, sometimes we'll throw that out, sometimes it's like,


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[Assistant] Mine would be, uh, Carrie El's, El's? Elwes? Elwes? Elwes? Elwes? As, as Wesley from The Princess.


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[Assistant] As you wish. And like even though he was a, I think it's because he goes from being very sensitive to the asshole to back to being very sensitive again. I was like it's the full, the full gamut. And also he's very good looking in that movie. That's great.


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[Assistant] I recognized him in Saw, but I didn't realize that he would do what he does in Saw.


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[Assistant] Well I was gonna say TFIG is like a nice little remix of TGIF, so.


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[Assistant] That one is lovely. Cut me. Thank you.


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[Assistant] What is up ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Elder Scrolls podcast with Fudge Muppet. My name is Scott and we're here


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[Assistant] Michael and Drew, and today we're discussing the Dwemer.


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[Assistant] So uhm, for those of you out there who are confused, there are three of us, and you do hear separate voices sometimes, but sometimes you can't tell the difference between Michael and I.


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[Assistant] But, uh, yeah, we made a community post announcing the podcast and, um, to give you the short of it, this is an open discussion podcast where we discuss all different parts of the Elder Scrolls, a lot of lore discussion, but also other Elder Scrolls related topics. We encourage you to ask questions and so on, and we make community posts about it before they come out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that is, that is true. And then like, actually, uhm, there was some recent, I think it is from Elder Scrolls Online stuff, but there was.


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[Assistant] Because originally there was, they're called dwarves because people speculated because the giants that were there called them dwarves because they were small to them. But uhm, and then there was translations to deep elves.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's where my mind, but then there was another translation.


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[Assistant] Although when, when I hear deep though, oh, I guess it applies, but when I hear like deep, I usually think like philosophical. Oh, I'm thinking underground. Well, I do know, I mean deep in that context. Yeah. Yeah, I thought you meant when you thought of deep.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel like everyone here who is watching a podcast dedicated to the Dwemer has some idea of who they are, but essentially they're just, they're sort of like the thematic


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[Assistant] Antithesis to the Kymer and Dunmar, they're like these super fedora-tipping, like, we'll talk about this, but they're not atheist, or I guess...


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[Assistant] Yeah, they don't, it seems that they don't have like, like a theology around it kind of stuff. There's not like, they kind of do away with...


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, all of them would have traditions and stuff to hold, but, like, uhm, they don't have all of the, I guess, like, spirituality is kind of thing that the...


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[Assistant] I mean, they do try and make their own god, which we'll get to.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like we were actually, I was discussing this with Michael, um, yesterday actually, and it was about just how, um,


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[Assistant] You know, we'll get into the metaphysical stuff now, we may as well, like, we're on the road. So, but uhm, that...


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[Assistant] Most of the civilizations and cultures and so on, they're all kind of looking for like transcendence. I mean, you could even argue that people like today in real life world look for some form of transcendence or like greater purpose meaning so on. But in the Elder Scrolls world, that's usually through like,


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[Assistant] Sort of, it's not exactly strictly canon, but the one of big theory is they want to unmake the world so they can go back to being.


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[Assistant] It kind of comes from like a spiritual introspective sort of philosophical way of beating it, whereas like the Dwemer's kind of theme on the opposite is kind of using tools and technology.


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[Assistant] Transcendence in this other way, which is all related to the Numidium, that they're trying to build themselves their own god and that uh, ruins a lot of things for the future of the, not in a bad way, but I mean it just does a lot of,


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[Assistant] The Dwemer and Kymer are sort of on the same track in, in kind of like they're trying to beat Lorkhan's kind of prison, whereas the High Elves, or I guess probably just traditional Uldmer thought, um, derived thought is just, let's break down his prison if you can. Like basically they just kind of, they don't want to.


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[Assistant] Do you know what I mean? It's like kind of tossing the Monopoly board aside, rather than trying to just win at Monopoly. Yeah, for sure.


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[Assistant] But uhm, let's move on, we'll talk about how, so the Dwemer aren't actually originally


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[Assistant] Uhm, they're not just in Morrowind, they're sort of everywhere. Basically, all elves are supposedly derived from the old mod, like the big proto-elf from ancient, which, and then before that is kind of like the old Elnife, so all...


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[Assistant] That's where they all come from. Supposedly, like we still don't know about like left-handed elves strictly or some of the other varieties and so on, but uhm.


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[Assistant] Most of them we can track to a degree, like even though


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[Assistant] It's still all up in the air, like even the wood elves or the, or the Khajiit and whether they are or not, whether they are or aren't elves is kind of tricky, but the Dwemer, we kind of don't know strictly. If they're elves or not, or? Well, not if they're elves or not. Cause I was going to say that they're definitely elves.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well there is, let's like put to rest one of the ones that I think is the least liked.


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[Assistant] Uhm, based on everything else, but there are some people that refer to, or some sources and so on that refer to them as a sort of like great house or a clan kind of thing. It sort of kind of gives you this implied idea that they're kind of like a split off of the Kaima that was a particular secular house and they were very, but


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[Assistant] There's other things, uhm, just in the timeline and so on that kind of imply that they were there already before, or they were there with the Velothi before they degenerated into, like, the later Chima culture kind of stuff.


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[Assistant] But uhm, so if you can dismi- not dismiss that, like it's a potential, uhm, potentially an option, but I reckon we should talk about more so where we think they came from. So, Drew, hit us where you think they came from. Let's hear your head count.


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[Assistant] Well, how about, how about we hit with this for a classification will probably, probably help a lot. Is, do we, do you go with the idea that, that Tamriel itself is old Elnife or like Aldmeris? Like it's, it's sort of.


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[Assistant] The idea of Aldmeris is it's not this actual separate location that they came from. It's just as a result of the war between the old Elnife and the wandering Elnife, there's like a big scattering.


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[Assistant] And uhm, they're all split all over the place. So like, personally I sort of subscribe to the theory that Aldmeris was Tamriel, like it's just changed and broken in the big godly wars and so on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like, if we were to play a probability game, they're most likely derived from the old model.


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[Assistant] In some way, and most elves are. It's just kind of a matter of.


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[Assistant] When and how, but I think some of the divisions might've actually happened a lot earlier than, um, you're led to believe sometimes just, for example, like,


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[Assistant] Where do the snow elves come in? Like where, when were they there or were they always there from the times when Tamriel was Old Elnife or Aldmer? So let's just use the term Aldmer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, perhaps it's a video idea that uhm, we should do is but trying to reconcile all of the early myths and so on and try and


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[Assistant] Make it all work and gel together, like, cause I know that it's easier to explain, uhm,


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[Assistant] Wood elves and nords and snow elves and so on and a bunch of their mythologies, if the idea is that Tamriel is Aldmeris, originally was, and there are like direct, uh, druid, no, there's direct, um, quotes and stuff that do say that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause this is what's going to happen like with these discussions guys, is we're going to end up, they get hyper theoretical cause you're dealing with Elder Scrolls and there are no straight answers. There's basically you can only play


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[Assistant] With what evidence you've got in this unreliable narrator, but it's also just, you kind of just got to play the probability game. And sometimes the way we tell certain videos and stories is we kind of tell it through the lens of certain, uh, races and so on and sort of their understanding, but like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, just cause you read it in a book doesn't mean it's 100% true. You've kinda gotta like contrast it against everything else and try and...


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[Assistant] So here it goes, but well, let's say we know that they were there, the Dwemer were there.


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[Assistant] At uhm, the time of the Velothi, so when the Velothi culture, so,


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[Assistant] After the Chima came, well, by the way, for everyone who doesn't know, so Chima is just, that's the changed ones, which are basically, they were just like Ultima.


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[Assistant] They left the Somerset Isles, uhm, because of the Three Daedra.


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[Assistant] Azura, Mephalo, and Boethiah, uhm, following Velo, the prophet named Veloth, and then they went to, uh, re- they found Resdain, which was Morrowind, it's just ancient Morrowind.


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[Assistant] And uhm, that's why they're often called the Velothi people and then hence the culture that was there was high Velothi culture. But around the same time there was, uhm, Dwemer strongholds and stuff being created. So the Dwemer were sort of, it seems that they were there already before the Chima came. So.


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[Assistant] That's another thing too, it's like, it's trying to math out when, when the wood elves came and then when the, like if they all came from high elves, you know what I mean? Like if they're all from Somerset Isles, like when did the snow elves, um, arrive in Skyrim for example? One thing that's interesting is that


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[Assistant] I think it was in the book Before the Ages of Man does mention that the Dwemer were from, let me just double check, it was...


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[Assistant] You're from, they set up strongholds and stuff in the Velothi mountains and that's all including up sort of parts of sort of Skyrim and Morrowind and so on. So let's just talk about, cause I'm trying to determine, like a lot of people.


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[Assistant] Who played Skyrim mainly, so a lot of the listeners and so on.


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[Assistant] That's how they got introduced to the dwarves and so on and they're spread all over Skyrim and underneath, but there's a lot of like, um, stuff to discuss about when.


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[Assistant] They exactly sort of arrived in Skyrim. So if they were originally there when the Chima arrived, they were in the Velothi Mountain region at least, so they were in...


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[Assistant] Uhm, parts of Morrowind, parts of Skyrim, and you could kind of assume that the Eastern strongholds of Skyrim, the Dwemer,


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[Assistant] Strongholds there that have kind of been there for a long time, but then it's also like the snow elves were also there at that point. Like I think we'll probably derail this if we start going too far back and trying to determine exactly when snow elves and the Dwemer were sort of there, but we kind of just have to accept I guess that


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[Assistant] They're there for the point of discussion at that time. But the interesting thing is that


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[Assistant] They, they were also in Hammerfell. But much later on, like this is all first era kind of stuff when they, when they come in Hammerfell. So, I don't know. Boys, what's your thoughts? On uhm, Dwemer expansion.


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[Assistant] Well, one thing to consider too is that most of the Dwemer strongholds


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[Assistant] All over Skyrim, like right across are filled with Falmer and so on and so you assume


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[Assistant] The Dwemer were stretched to that extent over Skyrim when Isgramor and stuff first showed up and then started getting rid of all of the snow elves and the snow elves had to find somewhere else to go and then they went, you know, underneath to, to the,


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[Assistant] Uhm, to the Dwemer and made their, their deal and they go to Blinded and so on. But like Skyrim was pretty solidly Dwemer at that point. I 100% agree.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I-I-I agree. I-I think, I think Skyrim being settled by the Dwemer for a long time makes more sense, and then...


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I don't think it was mainly red, like the whole Clan Rourke and Clan Krag and stuff, I don't think their expansion into Skyrim was too uhm, from Hammerfell was too significant.


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[Assistant] I mean, the other part to talk about Skyrim is there is the Ethereum wars and so on. Like, and I guess really we won't go too much into that, but I think it is just a point to something to point out that.


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[Assistant] The Dwemer weren't like completely unified. Obviously they had like all these separate clans and different strongholds and colonies that fought amongst one another and just as a point I just want to throw out there is that


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[Assistant] You, when you're looking at Laura and stuff like that, you don't want to treat races as like monocultural, like Dwemer, like, so, you know, arguably like some Dwemer might be the religious types. They might.


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[Assistant] There's an interesting thing too with just, um, is it's easier to identify kind of, um, going back to the sort of genealogy kind of thing.


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[Assistant] When you can kind of look at like high elves and then wood elves and like, oh, they have these similar gods and so on. And we, we sort of know the Veloth story, so we know how the Velothi got there.


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[Assistant] Because the Dwemer don't have gods or they don't really talk about them much, we don't really see that like common connection, like cultural connection there, so it's harder to kind of determine where they're from. Like even the snow elves, you're like,


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[Assistant] They sort of seem to have Aurel and, and, and that kind of thing going, so you're like, oh, you know, pretty high elven sort of related, but uhm.


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[Assistant] But yeah, I mean, we'll get caught up on that, but I just want to bring that up, but let's talk about, um, tonal architecture. Cause that's the, that's the, the key to so much of Dwemer technology and.


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[Assistant] Epic craziness, you know? Like all of their cool stuff. Like them being able to, like dwarven metal, for example. So let's talk about-


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[Assistant] Tonal architecture. I'll just give a quick framework and then I'll let you guys...


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[Assistant] But tonal arc, basically there's the idea that the Elder Scrolls universe is like musical. It's all vibrations and so on, right? I mean, there's such theories about our own universe. Everything's all vibrations, man. So same kind of deal, but a lot of the, so there's the, there's your magicka. There's magic, which is.


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[Assistant] The universe's rules, and the same sort of thing goes for sword singing, which is like this idea of singing in a, in a, in a blade, this big spirit blade kind of thing. So tonal architecture, tonal, it's the idea of they're using, they're bending the universe's rules with these sort of tonal tools and stuff. And tonal, it's kind of an interesting thing too, just to,


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[Assistant] Talk how the Dwemer are like these sciency sort of engineering focused ones and they're kind of using all of this tonal architecture and tools and stuff to, they're using technology to bend the universe versus something like sword singing or thorn which is kind of using


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[Assistant] The bending the universe's rules from a like inner enlightenment because the grey beards are all up there like, you know.


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[Assistant] practicing the voice and all that kind of stuff or the sword singing is a high form of enlightenment and then even like


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[Assistant] Getting to more obscure things like Kim and so on and that kind of enlightenment, it's all coming from an inner development, whereas...


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[Assistant] The Dwem is sort of like tonal architecture, like a, you know what I mean? It's like using technology to change things. It doesn't require the inner development besides on an academic level, which is obviously a huge accomplishment anyway. But, um, yeah.


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[Assistant] I mean, it can still be chipped and damaged, right, over time, like, cause you can still use a dwarven, it's just kind of...


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[Assistant] I guess the main thing is that the rust, it doesn't corrode and stuff. Cause even if you go through the Dwemer ruins, if they use that stuff for the, for the stone buildings, the stone buildings will still have like chips and stuff like that. It doesn't make it invulnerable. It's just kind of, they're taking out the...


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[Assistant] The effect of time on it, so it's not even necessarily time, it could be all kinds of crazy


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[Assistant] Universe bending, not understand, you know what I mean, like it's not.


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[Assistant] These kinds of things aren't meant to be understood. A lot of the time they're a little MacGuffin, they're just like, you know, click super powered metal wire, cause I'm bending the rules of the universe, but with tools, so it's cool. But, but uhm, tonal architecture is basically


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[Assistant] The, you know, Bethesda or the writers way of explaining how all of the cool Dwemer ruins are still around and not degraded and all of their machines still work because at the core, it's mainly, most of the time it's in reference to their metal.


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[Assistant] Um, why it lasts so long and like doesn't rust and destroy and so on. But obviously we know that tonal architecture.


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[Assistant] Uhm, or variations of, or whatever, have been used to, uhm, to go for other goals and so on, like leeching divine power from the heart of Lorcan and, you know, the tools of Cagrinac and, and stuff like this as well.


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[Assistant] That's cool. It's kind of like a, um, so I guess the theory there would be that the heart of Lorcan sort of helped them develop the automaton technology and so on. And then that's, and that's how it's spread from there.


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[Assistant] But then I guess they're, but they're, yeah. But then there's automatons and stuff and all the Dwemer Owens in Hammerfell and stuff as well.


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[Assistant] I think it could also be a little caught up in like game design intention, like originally Morrowind's Gwema were more like...


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[Assistant] Just sort of Eastern Skyrim, Morrowind kind of thing, and then gradually. Well, I mean, Clan Rock and stuff was there from ages ago, but.


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[Assistant] Here's a little, I'm just checking through, just remember, here's a little, a little theory for you, so. Okay.


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[Assistant] I've just looked at one, so the steam centurions in Morrowind, if you like, kill them and scrap them, right? They have just scrap metal on them.


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[Assistant] They don't have soul gems, so hold on, I'm just checking the Centurion Sphere as well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, scrap metal. So they don't have these soul gems and stuff, so maybe the use of soul gems in the Dwemer automatons is like...


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[Assistant] Yeah, soul gems, soul gems are a tricky thing in themselves because of the whole interplay with the soul cannon and how they drain and all that kind of stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, so the epitome of tonal architecture, kind of, like the, the craft lord Cagrinac was built Keening Wraithguard and Sunder, the three tools used to


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[Assistant] So the originally, just for a little background, so Dwemer and Kami didn't like each other at all. Then the Nord's empire comes along and then they're spread out and they've conquered everything. They've conquered all of Resnane. But then Lord Indoril Nerevar and Dumak Dwarfking, the leader of the dwarves, they become buddy buddy, team up together.


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[Assistant] And together they push out the Nords and they liberate Rezdain from the Nordic Empire and then that.


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[Assistant] So there's about, I think it's around 300-ish years or just under. I'll actually find the exact date. It was, uh, yeaah, so 416 of the first era. So it's going to be just under 300 years, but the War of the First Council, um, breaks out in 668.


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[Assistant] of the first era and then that culminates in the battle of red mountain in year 700. But the reason the war of the council, uh, first war of the first council broke out is because of basically kagrinac messing around with what they would, what the kama considered who were quite a religious people as like, this is like profane. This is.


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[Assistant] This is heretical. So uhm, and also I don't think you'd like the idea of, you know, cause as much as they were allies at the time, it's like, they are also, there's rivalries and stuff, and you don't really like the idea of them creating their own super god.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, so, so then the war, the council breaks out, then there is the completely very confusing thing called the battle of red mountain, which because of dragon breaks and all kinds of stuff, various versions of events or, or that could all be you don't know. But basically.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the result of the Battle of Red Mountain is that three tribunal gods, the tribunal gods, Almalexia, Sotha, Syl and Vivec, they appear and they're all the gods.


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[Assistant] You know, super powered gods of Morrowind now, and then the Dwemer just went, poof, they're gone. Everywhere on Tamriel, seemingly, so that's in...


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[Assistant] Uhm, Hammerfell that's in Skyrim, they all just disappeared all of a sudden.


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[Assistant] But there are exceptions. So there's Jaeger and Bagan who was in oblivion at the time of that. So, so there's, there's a lot of, so let's talk about the, the disappearance, I think as a whole. So I'll, I'll, I'll let.


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[Assistant] Drew, hit me with what, what's your take on their disappearance? Like what, what do you think it is?


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[Assistant] Like, so for Vivek achieving Kim, it's like he could both go, I'm just part of this godhead's dream, but then at the same time, contradictory, he has to be able to be like, I am me still. I'm still, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] You know, and, and for someone that's so, uh, you know, the dilemma being so logical and they're like, they need this perfect framework and everything needs to make sense that, yeah, they zero summed. There are, okay, there are, look, there are some flaws with that idea. Cause I, I usually.


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[Assistant] That's usually what I lent to before, but uhm, and it's still plausible, uhm, but the thing is there's uhm, with the zero summing,


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[Assistant] ESO has elaborated on that further, where they've basically that the calling is not an innate telepathic ability, that it's like essentially like a phone headset. It's a helmet. You know.


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[Assistant] Like, like, like what Michael's wearing right now is just this is what Dwemer had and they're communicating like, like us. And that's so, you know, they hop on Skype and they're like having a conversation.


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[Assistant] And then that would explain why two, that would explain two things why Jaeger and Bagan didn't, cause he wasn't, he wasn't, he didn't join the call. So he, cause he was off in oblivion, he didn't have reception. And then the go, cause another thing they point to is the ghosts, but like the Dwemer who are ghosts are dead.


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[Assistant] Already like, you know what I mean, they can die before they could have died in the war of the first council before that they all got together. So their souls or consciousness is sort of like separate from, you know, they're not receiving the Skype call that says,


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[Assistant] So if they weren't faced, like it doesn't mean the whole race has to disappear. For example, you could come to this same conclusion. You could achieve divinity through something and then you can't rationalize your existence. But you could, you could even have that, you know, and maybe at the same time I come to that conclusion, maybe we both disappear, but Michael doesn't.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. There is future Greymore ESO stuff. There's this time traveler dude, like Thaddeus Cosmo or something like that. Uhm, and it adds more time travel, like leniency. So the whole time travel thing is another explanation, is that the Dwemer, they could either go


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[Assistant] Forward or back in time, right? Let's just assume they go forward.


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[Assistant] But the, because then we haven't interacted with them and it doesn't like retroactively change the past either. But that is kind of, that is on, on theme with them. Like consider that the Numidium, their big god that they created, this giant brass golem, is like a time wrecking machine. And in the future, it's used multiple times to cause a lot of problems with the timeline.


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[Assistant] A giant time, it's like a time machine combined with a nuke. And uhm.


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[Assistant] So it would be on theme for them to have like time breaking, time traveling things, like in this dragon break kind of thing that the Numidium does, it might like send them forward and future or back or whatever. So there is sort of like this, the whole like going forward and back in time is another kind of


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[Assistant] The other one is also that they just became, literally became the skin of the Numidium. So they, the Dwemer race as a whole sort of became part of the Numidium and made the Numidium what it is and be able to be used. Um, but yeah, I mean, it kind of gets a little hard.


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[Assistant] That's the other thing where I throw in, I don't really buy necessarily the calling thing, like that they're all just hooked up on this like big Skype call because Clan Rourken


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[Assistant] You know, over in the Hammerfell side, want nothing to do with the ones that are over in, uh, Resdain or in Skyrim, and obviously with things like the Ethereum wars, they're not all like politically unified.


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[Assistant] So this idea that they're all like hopped up to like into this big mine, and they've all got different goals as well. Like, you know, they're all dealing with the War of the Crag kind of stuff. Like, they're not kind of not on the same like political wavelength as the ones that are dealing with the Kymer and Rezdain. So it kind of seems, but then they also disappeared though.


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[Assistant] That's what's interesting. So I don't, I don't necessarily, and especially the idea that now they've expanded on it more and then the calling is just putting on a headset and calling kind of thing. It's like what? They all put on a headset at one time and they're like me me me me me and then they all disappear. Like it kind of sounds a bit silly. So to me,


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[Assistant] Maybe there is a bit more credence to that, that it is some sort of chosen kind of...


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[Assistant] Punishment or something, but like, yeah, they-


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[Assistant] I guess without going too off topic, just to sort of distinguish zero-summing, like leaving remains would not be a very zero-summing kind of thing. That's what I'm saying. So just proof of that for people is that how


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[Assistant] So the idea is he's in the dreaming, dream sleeve world and he's imagining himself as reality. When you kill him, he just disappears. There's nothing. He's just gone. Cause he's, he's not, he's not even dead. He's just non-existent. There is a difference. You know what I mean? Like, cause he kind of never was real. That's a whack.


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[Assistant] But then there's also the Dwemer ghosts around, so maybe there is like, do you know what I mean? Like it's kind of...


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[Assistant] It was like when you zero sum, your soul stays behind. It does, yeaah. It's one of those things in mystery. I guess this is a good, like, I also want to reiterate to everyone that like, there are no definitive answers. It's really hard. You can only base off probabilities and sort of evidence and stuff. Like it's not,


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[Assistant] You just don't know, and it's really whatever the writers want to do, like that'll end up being. But...


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[Assistant] Of, uh, of the, uh, Dwemer. Because a lot of people, like, we want to hear more about their disappearance or...


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[Assistant] A different kind of political duemo, like a politically separate duemo compared to the ones we've kind of seen before.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we were talking about this before is that I think the best way, so the problem is if you just answer everything.


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[Assistant] It kind of- you lose the charm of Elder Scrolls because the charm of Elder Scrolls is that nothing is-


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[Assistant] You can be 90% sure, but there's that 10% wiggle room, like you don't know, but so that every question.


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[Assistant] I think a good design decision would be if you're, if you're going to answer a question, you need to leave the person with like five more questions. You know what I mean? Or like, cause then it keeps expanding the wonder. So a really cool thing I could imagine is if you, if you did have like what you were talking about, like imagine if you even just got to have some


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[Assistant] Contextually, you know what I mean? Like I think that would be a really cool thing and it would just sort of leak out a little more information, but then, then you're asking more about like whatever he says might lead, lead you on to ask more questions and like, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and especially because, um, time in Oblivion doesn't work the same, like, you know, Mirak was hanging around in Maus Moris realm forever. Same deal could kind of happen, like, just cause Jaeger and Bagan came back, maybe the others are still chilling in Oblivion. I wouldn't mind that if they came back as one NPC or something, but I kind of, like,


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[Assistant] It's a good that they don't have the answers. Like even you know how Jäger and Magard didn't understand the, like what happened to his entire race. Like he, Echo wasn't completely, and what's interesting is he had the,


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[Assistant] The book Divine, Divine Metaphysics or whatever, how to, how to build the Nemedian basically that he could, he could translate, but he wouldn't.


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[Assistant] Pretty sure it was Apple, but basically he's refusing to, he's like, nah, that should have died with the, with the Dwemer and so on, but like, it would be cool if somehow we had like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I think it's like one of those things where it's like the book. You know what? It's like, uh, like incompletes.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah. Well yeaah, I mean, overall I wouldn't mind if they come back in Elder Scrolls 6 in some small capacity, but I kind of, I don't necessarily like it being like the whole focus of the, of the game. I don't know, maybe I'd be surprised.


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[Assistant] But, uh, yeaah, I think we'll have to, at one point we'll do a bigger discussion on, uhm,


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[Assistant] The Numidium, for sure, but I think that kinda needs its own video, cause we would need to talk about the Battle of Red Mountain and everything, and like...


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[Assistant] Well, here's some questions that, um, just, cause I was just going through, I've got a list of questions that some people, we've sort of covered over some of them, but not, but, but, um,


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[Assistant] Along general lines is basically asking about, so there's like Skylar here who's asking about how close was Dwemer transportation to our modern transportation, for example. Let's just tackle that one first.


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[Assistant] Like, I mean, they didn't have cars and stuff, but I mean, they had Dwemer airships, you know, like the zeppelin looking things, like that's pretty, pretty impressive. And I feel like given more time, I mean, they, they have robots doing their, you know, automatons. Like I feel like if you can make.


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[Assistant] The gears and all of the axles and stuff you need to make a centurion work.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, there's plenty, that's the other thing too is like a lot of, there's not a necessity for it, like uhm, for cars and stuff like that, because cars also require roads. But why do all that when you can just use magic and teleport? Or, kinda why I guess they defaulted to airships, because you can just fly things everywhere.


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[Assistant] But, um, there's other things too, like, uh, Trey Perryman was asking, um, actually, sorry, that was the wrong question, but we didn't talk about Yegrim Bagan, but, um, uh,


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[Assistant] Enderborn, 272, nature of the dwarven AI or security intelligence in Skyrim, I forget the name of the dungeon, but near Riften, near the border, the one with the giant bones. So that's the one with that big, there's that glowy restoration looking spell thing.


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[Assistant] Then it goes in and drops the floor and like we, we speculate it. It's pure speculation. Like, oh, maybe it's some sort of security or AI kind of thing. But, um, I guess as a whole, like there, if we were to just talk about how.


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[Assistant] They, how intelligent they were, like all the automatons and so on are a form of AI, like not in the full.


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[Assistant] Like, you know what I mean? Like the robots that we're building now, we're like, oh yeah, they have good AI and stuff like that. Like they're moving around and they're learning to, you know, spatial awareness and stuff like that. Like the Dwemer are at that level already with the, with the Centurions and, and some of them are pretty complex structures and.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, I mean, in regards to the nature of Dwarven AI, I mean, like, I mean, it exists and it's intelligent and it's good, like, I mean,


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[Assistant] I don't know what else to really like, say about it, but-


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[Assistant] But like, they, they have stuff. I mean, here's another thing, so like,


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[Assistant] Obviously their technology is crazy and with tonal architecture they can, uhm,


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[Assistant] Do all kinds of stuff. They can just like, zip out, like create these massive...


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[Assistant] Uh, Riley Kaufman was asking, were there any Dwemer mages or did they shun magic like they shunned religion? I don't think they would have shunned magic at all, because if you view magic as just a tool, and it's just a, it's a natural force that's coming through Ethereus into Mundus, like, why?


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[Assistant] Because that's the, because that's the ring that you use as the Nerevar ring to verify that you are the soul and there, um, you are Nerevar and Kanek.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think they would have shown me, cause a distinction that you kind of have to make with the Elder Scrolls world is that.


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[Assistant] The elder, like our world we sort of see, which we probably shouldn't, but like science and sort of philosophy or even religious elements is in opposition. Whereas like souls are und, like for us, it's a concept in the Elder Scrolls world. They are undeniably a thing. Like you can almost treat it as a science. And I like,


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[Assistant] Like, you could look at a lot of things like this, but the difference between science and magic, a lot of the time, is just understanding. Like, for example, a TV, you know, is magic to some Amazonian tribesman that, you know, has just been living with spears and, and, what do you call them, loincloths, like, their whole existence.


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[Assistant] But, if you learn the magic, if you learn the ins and outs of the magic, it just becomes a science because you understand it. In the same way like all of these-


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[Assistant] You know, you know what I mean? I kind of getting at. So it's, yeah. So, um, when you come into the same kind of thing with the gods, it's like they're undeniably real. It's just kind of whether you think.


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[Assistant] Think of them as gods or not. Because gods kind of implies like a worship, like a religion around it. That's what really makes it a god. You know what I mean? Versus.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just, most people are talking about tiles, sniles.


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[Assistant] I'm just trying to clean up any like last questions or oversight. Like we will talk about the new medium as a, as a full episode another time for sure.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, it's, uh, interesting stuff, interesting thing too, um, just being about dwarven like crafts and stuff and how like kind of pragmatic, but.


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[Assistant] Joe Mitchell here is asking about Dwemeru and Dungeons. There's these giant sculptures of heads and in similar fashions to the Dwarven Centurions and his thoughts are just, they're based off Dwarven King or whatever, superior, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Uhm, and it's curious to see our opinions on it. But uhm, personally, I just think it's an aesthetic design of the ruins. Like, because, just because the Dwemer were not a religious people, they were still, obviously, they were kind of like, you could even argue like egotistical, they, they, they thought they're


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[Assistant] That's the other thing, like art and science aren't necessarily in opposition to each other either, like you can kinda, you know what I mean, like they're gonna, it's aesthetic, they love it.


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[Assistant] Still, I would agree. Stronger than their ego. That's the other thing too, is like, the idea, at least, between zeros, I mean, you, you have to be a real, it's, it's not even just the ego, it's the ability to simultaneously hold contradictions in your head as equally true.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because like, basically because the idea is that most people that would come to this realization would sketch it in zero sum.


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[Assistant] Like it's not, it's supposed to be a super, otherwise you'd have a lot more Kimmers around, flying around and changing jungles into grasslands. Or instead, you know, transcription errors or whatever.


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[Assistant] Like, it's kind of hard to, and also just like, we can't go inside the head, but if the head's like solid metal or it's hollow or like, there's a good chance that all these heads are just aesthetics.


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[Assistant] Clearly they like that face anyway because it's on all of their armors. It's just all like that bust kind of style is everywhere.


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[Assistant] But that, the only way we have any idea of what they look like is through Jaeger and Bagan, but he's pretty twisted and warped and obese and in this spider chair thing. But uhm, the ghosts, the ghosts in Morrowind and they all have that sort of like,


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[Assistant] Daria sort of style, uhm, I forget what you'd call it, like beards, but like the coiled, like it's like that weird coiled kind of look. Make sense? If you look up, but they all have that, so that's why I call it Persian beards. And then you see a lot of people who, uhm, who, uh,


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[Assistant] Who have made fan art and stuff, sort of like, they keep on using that sort of motif and so on. Uhm, but yeaah, I mean outside of that.


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[Assistant] Sometimes the ghosts kind of look like Dunmerish. Do you know what I mean? Like, they kind of look, uhm, like in terms of skin, but that could just be a thing for the time. I'm actually just gonna type in.


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[Assistant] Actually, I mean, maybe, maybe you could throw it in, but maybe the dilemma's disappearance is what, like, Drew was talking about before, you know how it's like related to some sort of punishment kind of stuff, because we only know that grey skin and the red eyes came in as a result of Azura's punishment and changed the whole race.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but he's also sort of sickly looking, he's got the corporates thing, so it's kinda unreliable. He's a messed looking individual.


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[Assistant] But, uh, yeaah, like, there's some cool, like, you'll see some, like, fan art and stuff, and then...


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[Assistant] And uhm, like in-game mods and models and stuff, but I like to think of them as the Persian Beats, I like-


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[Assistant] Skin color, I don't really think it's the golden one, but I also don't really imagine them as Dark Elf. Proper gray, you know what I mean? Cause there's still like, there's still the things we see of them are like ghosts, but like.


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[Assistant] In how like our world but like how that they've changed in ways is actually a lot more connected to instead of looking at it through that like sort of scientific sort of like our understanding of the world lens but in Elder Scrolls universe it kind of


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[Assistant] For the Americans listening. But like, uhm, they're kind of like distinct, but there's not necessarily like, and like you said, for the Marama, they sort of seem to kind of match their environments.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? And then there's those kinds of, that kind of like magical precedent is there is one of the explanations for the tower, uh, for white gold tower is that whoever rules it.


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[Assistant] But there's a few, I think it's just for that, in regards to that, not to go too off topic, but I just like the...


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[Assistant] The Tiber Septim just came and then just turned it into Grasslane. It's just neat. It's, it's, it's a MacGuffin just sort of like, I'm just going to make stuff happen because I want it to, but.


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[Assistant] It's neater than all of the transcription error sort of stuff, you know? I think. But, uh, yeaah, I think in regards to Dwemer, there's like,


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[Assistant] And we can talk about like the snow elves, I guess they're cruel to the snow elves and they're blinding and so on. If we want to, does anyone have anything to add about?


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[Assistant] They also have, uhm, just also to just throw out there on just sort of understanding how, uhm, technologically advanced they were. So like they've got all the robots and the AI and that they can manipulate the rules of the universe. They've got the, they've got their Skype headsets and then they can talk to everyone. But like,


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[Assistant] Also, uhm, they can store memories and information and knowledge in the lexicons.


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[Assistant] So they've basically got color scrolls as like sort of like world's first hard drive, but they can just store information in lexicon that's directly accessible, which is, uh.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure, but I know that the lexicon, that's another thing there that would, uh, would be great for an exploration in Elder Scrolls 6, that lexicons, things that can store memories or things like that, or information, lexicons would be a great way to, that it's literally inbuilt right there in ways to sort of learn more about the Dwemer without sort of just bringing them back.


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[Assistant] I mean, I did see this as a question, but it's like, I feel like, do you know, another future podcast topic would be new races in the, in the Elder Scrolls and like kind of what the contenders could be or how.


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[Assistant] Could bring him in. The reason I bring that up is just cause people like talk about Dwemer. Like, I wouldn't like the Dwemer.


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[Assistant] I get people ask like, Oh, what would it be like, like stats wise and stuff like that. But the problem is the area where they shine, like sort of stats abilities wise, they're all like, have been gutted from the mechanics because now it's just health, stamina, magical. Like before, if there was like intelligence, like you'd kind of like, yeah, amp that up or something like that. And you know what I mean? Like you don't really have a good way of.


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[Assistant] I don't- and I don't know what abilities they'd have as a sign.


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[Assistant] So this might connect back to, so Drew was talking about the geothermal power and stuff like that, powering the, so when you're close to the heart of Lorkhan, it all works fine. Whereas if you go to the further away, it's not going to work. Whereas the soul gems.


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[Assistant] Uh, getting powered by something, but if it's not a soul, like a convector, like a convector sort of.


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[Assistant] I'm just going to double check what a convector even is. Yeah, heating appliance that circulates warm air by convection. So like sucking in warm air.


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[Assistant] So sucking in heat, sucking in geothermal energy again, creating like a sort of essence kind of all related. I feel like it probably needs a video or something, but I feel like we can iron that all out and kind of.


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[Assistant] Make that into a more cohesive sort of thing. We'll have to do a bit of research for it, but like.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's kind of why we wanted to start it too is just these, you're talking about things that, you know, in a way it's casual and open that you, we can sort of talk about ideas or like particular things that won't make it into the video because the final products are polished and everything. Whereas we can just kind of have a more.


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[Assistant] Raw discussion. Speculative. And yeah guys, like in the comments below, let us know what topics you're really interested in hearing, like a full podcast on obviously like, you know, add your thoughts about this one.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, we'll put out community posts before we do them about what the topic will be and we'll try and get everyone's sort of insights and try and cover it in the discussion. We won't get to every single question as in like shouting them out, but we try and cover it in the topics that we're actually talking about. We're gonna need another one for the Dwemer in terms of the Numidium because we kind of,


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[Assistant] Didn't want to make this ridiculously long. And if I knew if we talked about the new medium and because the new medium also exists outside of like just Dwemer focus stuff because all type of septums use of it and so on and it's other implications. And then.


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[Assistant] I guess, I guess try and think guys, if you want new ones, try and think ones that are like the, for the next couple of topics, think still more general, like bringing people in kind of thing. So like, kind of like races or particular cultures or certain gods or something, nothing. We won't cover the obscure, obscure stuff for awhile.


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[Assistant] Don't worry, we'll one day get to reading the 36 Lessons of a Vec and trying to make sense of that.


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[Assistant] I like this podcast, I'm keen to do another one. So, we will see you all next time. Oh no, hold on. And we'll be back to nerd out with you all again next time.


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[Assistant] Success and success, they follow together now, you understand? That's why as we get successful, we say if they successful, everybody they succeed.


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[Assistant] This is what people will be saying, when it comes to, uh,


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[Assistant] I don't want to see them. You don't need to pray them away. If you do the right thing, you're not going to get problems with them.


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[Assistant] Interesting. You see, a person just collect one thousand dollars and better, better prices. Then, uh, somebody will be better person and won't deserve prize.


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[Assistant] Uh, Sir Adults, ehm, 31st of March was your birthday. Happy belated birthday. You know, if it's not at my bank app, every time I press it, it will just be rolling, rolling. What was 100 million?


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[Assistant] Interesting. So let's just go straight into the introduction of the usual suspect. Ladies and gentlemen, by my immediate right, the beautiful, delectable, drop-dead gorgeous, everybody agrees with her.


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[Assistant] Please let me be the reality. Ladies and gentlemen, our eldest brother, the man who takes the head of the yam when it is shared. For years, we have done our best to create great content and give you the best. And he has offered himself as a living sacrifice.


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[Assistant] Wow, I accept it. From your lips to God's ears. Ladies and gentlemen, our guest, eh, our guest, the choices of adjectives cannot best...


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[Assistant] Some of the, some of the subjects where we say indoor address, now subjects where we say, some people don't live with for a very long time, they find way out, they find breakthrough, but they're not getter. Ladies and gentlemen, he is the light. Imole.


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[Assistant] It is so good to, you know, to meet you in person and also to...


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[Assistant] Now, when we talk about rules, we're looking at, you know, uhm, set guidelines that


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[Assistant] These people are designed to remain here. They will never get here. They will never get you because you are going to jump from here and get here and even consolidate. Ladies and gentlemen,


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[Assistant] I beg, just use the next 30 seconds now. Go find Book. Go find Bayrou. Because you hold on.


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[Assistant] You will learn the hard way. So Dr. Kunle, I think a very good place to start is from a thought provoking point of view. I don't tell myself, say any day when I see you, I must ask you this question. So here it goes. Nigerians are very hardworking people. We are so immersed in whatever we do to the point that


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[Assistant] People anywhere around the world, anywhere where people go know, say, this person is Nigerian. And the term, you know, hustle or hustler, that's something where they say they know us for.


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[Assistant] You know, must have heard you talk about how the next


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[Assistant] Going back to 2023, how the next seven years, you know?


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[Assistant] You know who are maybe the victors or those who are slaves or victims of that or casualties of the next seven years. I don't think I'm seven now.


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[Assistant] The end of hope, the rise of darkness.


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[Assistant] Just carry the certificate and put Honest Born Podcast, uh, VC.


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[Assistant] And I think it's something we'll talk about more soon, but it's fundamental, the hist to the Argonians is fundamental in what makes them so different to every other race. Not just because they're beasts, you know, like the Khajiit are a beast folk, but there's so many ways you can tie them back to the elves. But the hist, the idea is that the hist were there when the world was created.


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[Assistant] They were a separate entity from the Elnife, who were the ancestors to Menenmer. When they were fighting, the Hists were just bystanders. And these are not necessarily the ancestors of the Argonians, but the creators of them at least.


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[Assistant] They're completely alien from everyone else on Tamriel.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's kind of like a cheat code. You can't really pin them down. You know, you can say, oh, they, you know, they, they give birth by hatching, but then there's things that hint at the idea of, oh wait, no, the hiss can just be like, nah, now you can give birth like a mammal and things like this. Like they can just get, they can just flip things on their head and it's pretty much impossible to tie them down.


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[Assistant] The idea in the Loremasters archive is that the Hist perceived humans and elves and admired their walking legs and clever hands. So it's like, that kind of ties into the whole, they can just adapt to whatever the Hist see and like, oh yea, we'll take some of that, we'll take some of that. But it's like, yea, these really are lizards just kind of mimicking humans and elves.