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[Assistant] Uhm, it's not ideal. I absolutely hate it for Cameron McAdoo. Uhm, for sure. Uh, cause I think that was it going back to the track RV. I mean, you talk about, we talked about the impact and what the dirt is like. Had that been, had that dirt been softer, maybe he gets away with it with less injury.


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[Assistant] But with the, with the, uh, conditions being concrete hard.


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[Assistant] Aaron, back that up, back that, Aaron, if you can, back that first, that, that first view, and I want you to pause it, keep going, keep going, go, go, go, go, go, keep going, keep going, almost there, keep going, keep going, that might be all we have right there, go back to right, right where you played it, like right there. Okay, right here, and this is where I'm gonna...


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[Assistant] There you go. I mean, yeah, I mean now like considering what you said.


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[Assistant] Like just knowing how, how I operated, I don't, and, and, and dude, we've all made a crap load of idiot moves. But I, I think especially on a roll app, I, I don't think that I would have collided with someone.


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[Assistant] If, if, if we're doing what the hell we're supposed to do on title 24, let's be honest, like that wouldn't have happened. No, no, it wouldn't have happened.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it has no disrespect to you, Cam. We, we, I, I think you've had a phenomenal, uh, season. We've praised you. I hate it for you. Uh, so hopefully it'll be all right. Like you're saying, like now I'm thinking like championship.


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[Assistant] Gonna be tough at this stage, especially a guy like Vial. We think about championship caliber and now he's in what? 13 point lead over Deegs? Dude.


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[Assistant] I gotta give it up to RJ Hampshire. So, um, I was watching pretty closely RV like in qualifying practice. He just looked comfortable. He looked really comfortable. Maybe that steel chassis was, uh, a nice fit for the conditions there in Nashville, having a little bit more flex, being more, um, being more forgiving.


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[Assistant] And giving him that feel that he was wanting on the track. I think he was in the league of his own, um, Saturday night.


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[Assistant] He did exactly what he was supposed to do. All he can do in a situation like this, go get good starts.


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[Assistant] Have really good laps and let the rest play out how it's going to play out. He can't control what's going to go on with his competitors. And dude, that guy was 100% perfect all night long from, from my standpoint.


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[Assistant] Well, I don't know, I, I, I don't, well. Oh wait, sorry. Yeah, he's only two points out. Uh, two point, he only has a two point lead. So they're okay. They're it's basically winner take all for RJ and kitchen. They both have, I was looking at the East East, my East, my East note. So you're looking at the East. That's okay.


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[Assistant] That's alright. So, they both got three wins. It's basic, yeaah, it's win or take all. Uh, whoever's gonna win these next two or...


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[Assistant] They both, they have to outperform each other. Uh, let's, let's just, we're gonna role play it really quick. If Kitchen is okay, I, I...


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[Assistant] I like kitchen at Denver and the reason that I like him at Denver.


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[Assistant] It's because in my opinion, that's going to be a horsepower track. We're going to be in elevation, actually in Salt Lake.


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[Assistant] We're gonna be in an elevation situation. That means you're gonna have horsepower. And I personally think that the.


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[Assistant] Levi's, I think Mitch's program has way more, has more horsepower than, uh.


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[Assistant] Then the Rockstar Husky team does. Uh, the Rockstar Husky is probably not going to be pumped for me for saying that RV, but I don't care. Doesn't mean I don't like those guys. I think Nate and the boys, they do a great job over there.


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[Assistant] But, uh, you know, that's, that's just how it is, dude. And if I'm going to those two elevation races, I'm loving the horsepower advantage.


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[Assistant] Paul Marner asks, should Degan have been penalized for riding up the downslope of the finish line? Yes? No?


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[Assistant] I reached out to Mike Peltier from the AMA and spoke with him about the Deegan situation going backwards on the track and what the penalty was like and he said that they felt like there was no advantages gained and he came back.


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[Assistant] In a decent spot, it would not have been in the best interest to turn around where he was on the landing jump and head back, um, backwards.


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[Assistant] For that situation it was. I'm assuming you, you like, you like Vial for the East coast and the championship, right?


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[Assistant] Uhm, Robuck24 asked if Deegan have it, uh, have what it takes, uh, this year for, uh, Vial or is it too far ahead? And I'm gonna go ahead and say now he's, unless Vial crashes and hurts himself, which I doubt he will because of what RV just said, nope, I think it's too late for Deegs.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I gotta air some, like, I wouldn't even call it dirty laundry, but I'm just like...


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[Assistant] I like Diggs, I think like what he did last year was unbelievable. He had a rough go at the beginning. Remember he came into the season, uh, injured. But then I, did I hear something on the broadcast where Will was saying that he went down and he was working with Christian Craig and changing some things with his technique or whatever and


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[Assistant] Dude, I just got to say this is I listen.


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[Assistant] My technique was never like perfect, obviously, and I don't, and I think if you can have good technique, do it.


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[Assistant] But I also think that if your technique, even if it is, isn't by the book and what people deem perfect technique, but you're and it's not holding you back.


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[Assistant] Keep doing it change your technique when the time is appropriate or when it's holding you back from winning.


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[Assistant] I know that's probably not popular and people don't like that, but that's the way that I look at it.


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[Assistant] You can't be worried about changing stuff midway, dude. You have something that no one can teach and I don't care if your technique isn't what people think is perfect. Go do what you do. That's why you're so special until it slows you down.


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[Assistant] Then change it, but you can't be changing crap midway through. Now you're going back and forth. You got this guy telling you this. You got that guy telling you that it's like, who the hell do you believe?


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[Assistant] Um, yup, there you go, dude. I like, yeah, I just, oh, oh well. I just like, I don't even know why I let it frustrate me. I shouldn't even care, but I get passionate about certain things. So anyhow, uh, before we get to the quad lock question.


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[Assistant] Aaron, big weekend coming up, uh, on NBC in Philly. So here you go. Motorsports on NBC, SMX Insider with Weege and JT. Check them out YouTube. I don't know who they have for their big interview this week, but I'm sure it will be someone good.


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[Assistant] Uh, Saturday, it's a day race, so make sure you, uh,


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[Assistant] Get your stuff, get your plans, get all of your stuff you need done on Saturday, done early. 9.30 AM early start, uh, on Peacock race day live will start so you can watch your qualifying there. This is a new venue, going to be exciting. Not sure how the weather's going to be all that fun stuff, but.


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[Assistant] We will be live on NBC and Peacock at 3 PM Eastern time, Philadelphia, uh, what is it? Lincoln field or Lincoln park, whatever they call it, the link. Uh, and then Sunday, 12 PM Eastern, the Indy car series, NTT Indy car series at barber.


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[Assistant] And, uh, just right outside of, uh, downtown Birmingham, that'll be a lot of fun. I'll be tuned into that on Sunday. Cause I get home at, uh, nine 30 in the morning on Sunday. So maybe a beverage, listen to my man, Lee Diffie on the call, uh, Townsend bell.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be interesting. I don't know what to expect for Philly RV. I don't know how the dirt's gonna be. I don't know if it's gonna be hard. I don't know if it's gonna be soft.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, new outdoor stadium. I know that the weather can change, but, uh, I did, I did take a little peek at it. I got to leave early. I got some fun stuff planned, uh, on Thursday. We'll keep you guys, uh, abreast on.


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[Assistant] But, uh, it looks good. It doesn't look like there's any weather on the front end of the week or the back end of the week. So, uh, let's hope.


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[Assistant] For at least the SMX track, they don't have to, uh.


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[Assistant] Deal with the weather. Dude, it poured at five in the morning on Saturday this week.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're open. Yep. Yep. Denver's open. So hey, what other races are you coming to? Are you, are you coming to Salt Lake?


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[Assistant] Alright, well I'm gonna, uh, I'm gonna be coming out your way, uhm, Sunday after Denver. So, uh, get the barbecue ready.


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[Assistant] Get it, get it ready. Uh, yeaah, so, uh, pretty, pretty fun. Uh, I'll be on the Dan Patrick show, uhm, this week. Yeaah, go on the Dan Patrick show. I'll be on his show Friday.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I've been a, uh, Dan Patrick fan for a long time and, uh, it's cool. We got it worked out. That should be fun. So that's why I have a short week. Um, quad lock question of the week. We got a lucky winner. Dylan Adonizio.


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[Assistant] Adonisio, jeez. Uhm, congratulations Dylan.


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[Assistant] On, uh, winning the quad lock question of the week. If you haven't been to quad lock, check them out. Quad lock case. Um, I met some of our quad lock winners this past weekend in the flesh RV. Yeah, I went and met them. Um, Zach and Jordan, uh, so great to meet them and, uh, they're stoked.


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[Assistant] Uh, on their stuff and so Dylan asks, how important is a pre-race routine and what was yours?


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[Assistant] Uhm, copy and paste for me exactly. I was like completely programmed.


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[Assistant] I'm out at the practice track, very similar to you, RV, for obvious reasons. Uh, Wednesdays were my days off.


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[Assistant] Uh, the motorcycle did more off, off the bike stuff, like interval day. Actually, that was probably the lightest day. It was, I would call that my flex day. I was done working out by like 9.30 or something and I had the rest of the day to chill, play golf, whatever, whatever I was gonna do that day. Thursday, I would go out, I'd do a race simulation.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, pretty, pretty, it was relatively light, honestly, uh, Thursday, yeaah, relatively light, uhm, you know, race simulation, like I said, I would do some sprint laps after the race simulation stuff just to get that speed there. And then, uhm, Friday, fly, fly to the races, do a little workout before I'd leave, fly on Friday, and then Saturday, get up,


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[Assistant] I do a 30 minute spin, then go to the track, go through practice, do all that stuff.


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[Assistant] And then I was just completely honed in on everything that was my pre-race ritual. Uh, I would do a little, uh, 10 to 15 minute spin, throw some intervals in there before the, uh,


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[Assistant] Before the main event, I'm sure Elden had you doing that as well. If, if not yet, keep the blood flowing, get that heart rate up.


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[Assistant] And then, uh, yeah, I tried to time it just right. So where I go down there, the, the, uh, 125.


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[Assistant] I would spend a lot of time getting my gate ready, gate prep and making sure it's like pristine and perfect because that was our launch pad.


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[Assistant] And, uh, yeah, I wouldn't really talk to anyone. Um, I was focused on what I needed to do.


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[Assistant] Maybe have a couple words with my mechanic, uh, but, uh, yeaah, I was completely honed in, locked in. I wasn't, I wasn't in the mood to be making small talk with anybody. So, uh.


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[Assistant] You're right. So Dylan, congratulations, uh, on the quad lock question of the week. Slide into the title 24 DM page and, uh, Jay will pass you along to quad lock. We appreciate you being a loyal listener and fan.


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[Assistant] Uhm, whether you listen or watch. So anyhow, RV, that was, uh,


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[Assistant] That was a big weekend championship wise. Uhm, there's only three rounds left. Uhm.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be interesting to see. I think for the 450, my quick thought is just...


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[Assistant] You could make a fair point, you could make a fair argument for Coop or uhm, or you could make a fair argument for Jet also. I just, you just have to see what happens, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah. What you got cracking for the rest of the week? Like you got any races coming up?


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[Assistant] You're on it. You're a good, you're a good dad. Alright, well that's good. Hey, uh, thanks United Motorsports, QuadLock, Case, Voxel, USA, Dunlop.


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[Assistant] And, uh, make sure you, uh, check us out on Motorsports on NBC's YouTube page. Uh, we there, we live there also on Peacock. We're on demand on Peacock as you guys know and of course we're on all of the, uh, podcast applications.


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[Assistant] Uh, so you can check us out there. Uh, keep sending in the, uhm, on the questions. Appreciate all the fan engagement. And, uhm, yep. Have a great week, RV.


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[Assistant] And, uh, hopefully for our athletes sakes, it's not as wild of a weekend at Lincoln, uh, Lincoln financial field. And, uh, we'll have some, some, some fun stuff to talk about and not sad stuff to talk about, but we hope you guys enjoyed the show today.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I loved your insight, RV. I always do. Great job today.


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[Assistant] You're right brother, well you have a great week and we will see everyone talk to everyone next Monday.


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[Assistant] Very tough scenario to, to let alone ride, but also ride and win.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think if you're chase, Ricky, you kind of go like, what if, what if I didn't have, you know, landing on one, one tough block in the rhythm section, then the on off, you blow the on off, almost hit the tough blocks.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's good, but no, it's almost like a what if. If I'm, if I'm chase going back to the truck, uhm, and you're like, man, and you look at that main event and you look at how many mistakes were made and you were still there, I think that was a step in the right direction.


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[Assistant] But we, we can't. It's, it's supercross racing, it's motocross racing, right? All the, all these mistakes come into play. We have to talk about all of them. If you're not, if you don't run a perfect race, uhm, and, and, and you have the mistakes that, that each of these riders had, Jett had.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and all of them had issues, right? Jet had his mistakes, uh, Coop had arm pump and Chase had his mistakes. So there was a lot, a lot of stuff going on.


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[Assistant] Throughout that same event that everybody had to deal with and everybody, like I said, everybody had to deal with it and we had only one that prevailed and that was Coop.


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[Assistant] I personally, I think it's a rider error. I mean, we're 11 rounds into this, into this series already.


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[Assistant] Um, and, uh, we haven't seen, you know, uh, that happen before, um, as, as maybe as many as we saw, um, here at Seattle. So it could have been a little bit of the track conditions. I was down on the floor. It was very, very sticky. It was more clay.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it was actually all like a clay material. So with the amount of moisture that they had in the dirt and things like that, it can make it tough. I, I call it rider air.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think you can ride, I mean, I've never rode one, but I think you can ride around and you can stop while you're in second gear in the turn. Uhm, and then you can shift down to first and things like that. Uh, but yeah, obviously nobody runs that in Supercross. I wouldn't advise running that, uh, but, uh, would've solved that problem.


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[Assistant] And that could have been one thing too, when he did grab that tough block, I know they run, we, we, we do, all these riders run a cable from their frame to their brake pedal. Uhm, maybe it, maybe it did potentially mess something up with the brake pedal.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but that's where I say I don't know about that. He did stall the motorcycle in the heat race too. So uhm, but yeaah, but you know, he did hit the duck block. We don't know exactly if it did affect something on the brake pedal, but it happened twice.


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[Assistant] He does. Watch this. Watch, watch Anstey, yeaah, you're exactly right. Watch this right here.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, one hell of a career for, for AC, you know, uhm, had some, had some pretty highs and some pretty lows too, you know, so that's the struggle of the sport, you know, and uhm, like, but like you said, he's always had a good attitude, he's one of the, probably one of the best speakers, uhm,


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[Assistant] Yes, in our sport, you know, everybody and everybody loves to loves to listen to him. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know 100%. You have to, I mean, look, you can always look back. I can look back at moves that I made in my career. I'm sure you can do that. Same thing. Look back at moves you've made and maybe I shouldn't have done that. I should have done it like this.


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[Assistant] But you can't dwell on any of that stuff. You can't look back, can't change the past. You gotta, you know, you look forward and say, man, I had, I had a one hell of a career and had, uh,


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[Assistant] Some of the best times of, of my life, uhm, probably AC's too, you know, like yours, uhm, we've been in this industry and we started. What the, what's unique about our sport too in, in, in, uhm,


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[Assistant] And most sports at a very high level, I should say probably every sport at a very high level, but, but coming out of Loretta Lenz and racing those, those, you know, 50s, 60s, 80s, 125s all the way up, like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, your parents and your, the people that help you expect the same thing, just as, as expect what the, the factory teams expect when you do turn pro. It's just at a lower level. So, you know, when you see, when you look at his professional career, because you can't turn pro to your 16, you know, he's been dealing, we all have dealt with the stresses and the pressures of


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, it's, uh, you have a lot of pressure on your shoulders. It's a long drive back to, uh, Seattle, Washington, uh, 34 hours when you don't have, uh, a good showing.


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[Assistant] You know, just grew like a weed. And the funny thing was is when we still had him on a supermini, he would stay at my house during the week.


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[Assistant] And uhm, we'd work out with Elden, and Elden was like, he'd look at AC's, uhm, calf, tibfib area, and look at his arms and everything else, and he goes, dude, you're gonna be tall. This was like when he was like 14 years old. He goes, I think you're gonna be tall, dude.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and he had ended up hurting something, so they had some x-rays, they got to see his growth plates and things like that, and he goes, that boy's gonna be tall. And, and I'm like, there's no way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Elden called it when he was like 13, 14 years old. Yeah, he's like, this, this guy's gonna be tall. And uhm, dude, he nailed the, nailed the, the nail right on the head. Yeah, he ended up sprouting up like, you know, later.


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[Assistant] And, uh, becoming like, I guess he's probably almost, you know, six foot. So to your point, yeah, to, to ride a certain way for, for so many years and be a smaller human and then all of a sudden grow, you know, grow that quickly. Definitely had to.


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[Assistant] Take a, take a toll in, in some new learning and learning how to write a.


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[Assistant] A dirt bike being that much taller with that much more leverage. Um, I know like we all saw, like I think last year he went to a tall seat foam, which he said I think helped him out quite a bit, you know, so just, uh, even, even that much, that far into his career, still learning, still changing, still, still trying to improve, um, things to make him go faster on the motorcycle.


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[Assistant] Uhm, at the end of a writer's career, uhm, I mean, it can be both, but, uh, like for, I can only use myself as an example because I only lived through what I, what I, uh, felt and, uhm, you know, dealt with, but it became, wasn't, it didn't become the physical side, it became the,


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[Assistant] The, the routine side of, of, uh, and the pressure and the mental side of it, you know, staying in the game, um, especially me going with four in a row.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, just waiting to get knocked off the top. You know, you try to do everything to avoid that and make sure that you, uh, you know, uh, turn over every rock and every stone to make sure that you don't lose. But ultimately for me, it became, it did become mental. The training part, I would, you know,


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[Assistant] We were, we're all so fit. I was, I was very, I was very fit. It wasn't, it wasn't the physical side of it. Uhm, it was the mental side of it. Uhm, and kind of, I've said this before, just being


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[Assistant] Uhm, pulled in, in 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 different directions also while trying to produce wins and produce championships for, for, for all your, for yourself and your sponsors and your team.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, they, they want, they want to do the best, but I would say from what, you know, from what I've saw and seen, um, in the past and, and like I said, I'm not going to use the word wasted, but potentially like, uh, use,


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[Assistant] Uhm, who I think could have done better, uhm, or that showed really good promise at this point. And they're still currently racing, you know, they're not retired yet, but like, I'll use Austin Forkner as an example, like the kid has the speed, he's got the talent.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he still hasn't figured it out yet. He's not retired, so it's not like, you know, he still has time to figure it out, but uhm.


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[Assistant] But I will say that that window's probably, uhm, closing out a little bit, right? Uhm, he's been in the lights class for a very long time. He still hasn't made it to the 450 and as everybody knows, you go from 8 rounds to 17 and then 11 outdoors.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, we have, he hasn't seen the toughest part of it yet.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'll use Christian Craig as an example. One hell of a lights rider or 250 rider, uhm, you know, championship for star racing, uhm, hasn't progressed and hasn't, hasn't, uhm, shown, I don't think his true potential in, in the 450 class. Now, will he? I don't know.


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[Assistant] I feel like he's been in this position, he's had great people, uhm, you know, that he should be able to produce that. So at the timing of kind of where, how long he's been in it and a lot of his injuries, uhm, you know, I think that he


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[Assistant] I was expecting more, uhm, you know, I was expecting him, especially after that championship at start racing, that Supergrass championship, like.


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[Assistant] for him to really make that next stride, especially in Supercross because we know how talented he is. You know, he's, he's kind of like another Kevin Wyndham, you know, him and Levi, Kevin Wyndham, all three of them kind of ride, you know, in my eyes, similar. So.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I guess you could say those, those two are the ones that popped into my head, uhm, very clearly.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and uh, with who you surround yourself, and just making good decisions. Uhm, but yeaah, he's had a fair amount of injuries too, and some of the stuff is just, uh, you can use the word bad luck, but uhm,


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I think we're, we're, yeah, it's, it's, it's that time, right? The pendulum has, is, is swinging, meaning, you know, we have Eli getting, is older, uh, Justin's older, um, you know, we, uh, Jason Anderson is getting older. We have a, we have a fair amount of guys that are like 28 to 31 years old.


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[Assistant] Um, and not to say it's going to happen this next year, but within the next two years, I think we're going to see a handful of riders, um, retiring. It's just that, uh, it's just that pendulum has swung. Um, you know, and then you'll see a bunch and you'll see the 250 class kind of also take a,


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[Assistant] You know, uh, a change and once those kind of guys move out, it opens up a bunch more seats in the 450 class, uh, and then you'll, you'll have, you'll have the older, older kids or older riders in, in the 250 class that are the 25s up to 28s will move into the 450 class once there's more seats available.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's lots of speculation around that, you know, obviously, uh, Jason Anderson will still currently be there, but now, uhm, AC, uh, announcing his retirement.


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[Assistant] And, uh, they have a seat that's open and obviously as we know, we saw, uh, um,


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[Assistant] So if I'm Kawasaki, I'm definitely making a run, um, at uh, at Jorge Prado.


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[Assistant] Um, there is some speculation that, uh, that they may have already made a run at him. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, points lead already again, his outdoor skills are phenomenal. So, um, he needs to improve his, obviously his supercross skills, uh, to run up with those up, with those guys up front and win races. But, uh, they got plug and play system right there. If they can, if they can lock him down.


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[Assistant] Yeah, really smart rider, man. I mean, you take a guy like that and drop him into the 450 class. Zero experience in the 250 class in Supercross.


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[Assistant] And, um, you know, man, the guy ran, ran some, ran up front, um, had some strong finishes, you know, just, you know, eight through 10th, which I thought, you know, I kind of called that's where he would be like eight through 10th spot, you know, so I w I was impressed and the guy is a starter too. And as we know, you need to be, you need to be a starter in Supercross.


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[Assistant] Can we talk more about bitches make rules? Like, that's, so like societies are built by the people who are like, wait a second, you, wait, you can't farm here. You can't. No, this is a road.


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[Assistant] We can say whatever makes you feel safe, pal. Uh, but here's the thing is that the guy who goes no, I don't know.


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[Assistant] The guy who says we're gonna farm on this road is an asshole. So, society's bitches and assholes, right? That's the ebb and flow, that's the yin and the yang.


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[Assistant] Who here is a bitch? Are you a bitch or an asshole, Kyle?


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[Assistant] Wait, but our like, hall monitors are like, pretty much known as bitches, right? Not assholes. They're like, ugh, fucking...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess it depends. You think hall monitors are enforcers? Yeah, they're monitors.


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[Assistant] I think that they gotta be enforcers. They're monitoring.


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[Assistant] I like to go you're either one thing or another and there's no if ands or juicy butts about it.


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[Assistant] Let's see, I guess Blake is a bitch. For sure. Oh hell yeaah, bitch. And Adam's not an asshole, so by default, I think you're a bitch.


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[Assistant] Well assholes don't care. Uhm. Ah, that's true.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, I think that when it seems, when it seems, and I think that I can be perceived as a bitch when at my very core.


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[Assistant] I think that I look like that and I'm not, not outspoken about how I feel.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I think my int- Sounds like an asshole backpedaling. I think. Yeah, you're just an asshole.


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[Assistant] Right. Would an asshole do this or would he be like, yeah, that's right. I'm here and, uh, I stand for what I believe in.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I feel like I'm a nice guy without tact. How about that?


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[Assistant] I'm a bitch. I'm a bitch without any finesse. Is that clear?


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[Assistant] It's the, it's the guy who was homeless that got put on because he had like the radio voice.


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[Assistant] And everyone's like, wow. And then he did the McDonald's commercial.


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[Assistant] Now what does that mean to anyone out there outside of Hollywood, Kyle?


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[Assistant] It was based on a collection of stories and whatever the fuck it was. But it was an amalgamation.


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[Assistant] One, one question. Do we think that I, The Rock is obviously the biggest star post wrestling, right? But was he a game changer? Like do we want to see his movie or do we want to see


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[Assistant] The Belia Saga, Terry Belia, Hulk Hogan, or like Andre the Giant, that was the shit, that documentary that came out. Like Game Changer wrestlers.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe it might be, it might mean more if you did a public apology, uhm, on your social maybe.


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[Assistant] I'm not saying it is, I just heard him say it and I want him to spell it. Spell Shakespeare? Is that what you're supposed to say?


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[Assistant] Dude, I have, when I'm hanging out with my wife's smart friends, I'm trying so hard to like say shit like that I don't know. And I just am like, I'm walking that tightrope.


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[Assistant] Y'all really just perplexed me. Oh, I'm pretty perplexed. Huh. Let me think on that perplexed Jim.


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[Assistant] Because if you try, if you nail it, they're like, well, look who's arrived. But if you say the wrong word, they're like, this motherfucker is stupid.


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[Assistant] Uh, the bottom line is or idiom.


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[Assistant] So sad. Yeaah. I, I don't know it. I, I was, I, yeaah, I didn't, I never watched it. I was a little older than you guys and I was like, I don't need to watch this movie. Also, not a huge Robin Williams fan.


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[Assistant] But I remember being like hyped on the trailer and he was like standing out in the field and I was like, is this gonna like, is this the movie that's gonna make me an adult? Like it's kinda artistic and like, and then it was b-b-b-bad.


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[Assistant] Jesus, you didn't like that, did you? I was like, I liked it a lot. Last time we never went to the movies again with each other.


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[Assistant] Was, was Rufio a hero to everybody in this podcast?


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[Assistant] So why didn't Hollywood take notice and go, okay, Asian American men,


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[Assistant] He was like the last dude that was the fucking, and there's like Jackie Chan, but Jackie Chan like they had to make him kind of silly or whatever. They would take dudes from other countries that had to do karate and shit. I'm just talking about a fucking cool ass dude and Rufio was like the one. Rufio was the king.


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[Assistant] But I think he was also one of the turtles that did the fighting show. How would they have done that?


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[Assistant] Wow, the goth one? I remember when they were like, you're goth now.


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[Assistant] Oh, that was our, our girl Erin, right? From who did workaholics?


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[Assistant] Norseman is like, it's kinda like The Office, but it takes place in Viking days, so there'll be like a slave rowing the boat or whatever and he'll be like, uh, excuse me, Viking Master, uhm, my hands are just hurting, is there like any kind of lotion we can have?


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[Assistant] That kind of thing, and they're like, fucking, it's just. What's it on? It's very weird. Uh, it's on Netflix. That sounds cool. Norseman. There's a funny bit about like, there's like a big Viking woman who goes on like a raid and they all come back.


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[Assistant] And all the other viking guys are telling her husband, like, dude, she was unbelievable in the raid. I saw her raping two guys at one time, uh, just really taking me to task. Okay. And he's like, oh, uh, yeah, I mean, I guess you gotta, uh, good, good work, honey. Rape and pillage. Um. And how many episodes is this thing?


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[Assistant] I mean, that piqued my interest, right off the bat. Uh, no, but it's funny because it, it takes their history to task.


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[Assistant] Do we want to pivot here to what movies or TV shows have made each of us cry? Or do we want to continue with this, what are you watching that people don't like?


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. But I feel like that's the opposite. People love that show except for like here in Hollywood where they go, it's not like that and it's bad writing.


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[Assistant] Oh my god, that's so real. It's very real, dude.


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[Assistant] I mean I know that cause it's only one time. Oh boy's in the hood.


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[Assistant] I don't know, 12? Whenever it came out on video? Do you hold back tears now?


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, no, I, I, I guess I'm like, I don't put myself in that position. I'm watching the story. Uh, I, I'm sure it's happened. It happens more when I watch like real sports with Bryant Gumbel.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you're watching like people, if you're watching people like talk about somebody who's passed away or like some triumph they've had in their life where it's real, I'm way more on board. But like, I guess my point is fucking Kuba. Yeah. Yeah. I get that dude. I mean, I don't.


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[Assistant] No one, I'm not looking for, we're just talking about what we cried.


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[Assistant] I haven't watched it yet, but I had to like, they were trying to steer my narrative and I had to be an asshole and go, hang on a second. In a way that I feel like I was protecting Adam as a friend. They were like, don't you think it's crazy how Adam found


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[Assistant] You as a writer and Kyle as a director and Blake as a scene partner and used you guys to make stuff and I was like, can I stop you right there?


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[Assistant] I don't think Adam was using us. I was like, I think we were all friends and had things that we were into and together started doing stuff. But you make him sound like some fucking evil guy who's like, yeah, no, we're friends. Come with me. Yes. Write me this real quick.


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[Assistant] Can you film me this and we'll go get fast food together as friends? I'm buying. I was like, you guys are making him sound creepy. He's a normal dude. Yeah, it happened.


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[Assistant] It's a munchkin? When you say donut hole, uhm, it's, it's, it's more than a hole. It's a munchkin. It's a munchkin. Yea, it's their branding. It's their branding, but isn't that, it's, eh, it's the best name for a little something, something. And it's delicious, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna have one. Good for you.


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[Assistant] Dad calls and cries and it's weird. Great idea, let's run with it.


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[Assistant] That's so bad. I have to make fun of him. I'm sorry. You were like, dad's only cry. And then your dad does cry. And you're like, well, I got to make fun of him immediately.


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[Assistant] There's the movie. What is it? Mr. Destiny? You guys ever see that one?


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[Assistant] Fuckin', what's his name? Anyway. Uh, drinks a drink, goes back to his house and it's like a giant house cause he did hit the home run now and his life's totally different. But now he doesn't have his wife and he's all weird. He's like, oh fuck.


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[Assistant] Right off the bat, I just want to jump in and take back calling Kyle a psychopath. Uhm, I'll take it back. I'm not gonna apologize. I don't live my life that way. Alright. Okay. You're an asshole. I take it back.


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[Assistant] You're a writer. When that dude dies, he sings him the song about, uh,


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[Assistant] The like, ugly lady that won't dance with him. And then that dude just vanishes.


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[Assistant] Wouldn't that be great? Just to have a rat steering you in the room, in the sack.


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[Assistant] I've been waiting so long and I was resisting so hard, RV, to not text you and get, get, uh, your thoughts on this. I'm like, nope, I'm going to save it for the pod because I want it to be raw and real. But, uh, the United Motorsports, uh,


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[Assistant] Moment of the night. I mean, it's gotta be. Gotta be the Hayden Deegan, Seth Hammacher collision in the first corner.


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[Assistant] Before I let the cat out of the bag and sell everyone, well, I mean, I tried to explain to everyone what I thought from your point of view.


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[Assistant] Dude, I love it. I love, dude, you see, this is what I love about RV.


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[Assistant] And, uh, what he brings to the table here at title 24 and he don't give a damn. He's going to tell it how he sees it and how he would approach it and that's what we do here.


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[Assistant] That's right. I mean, it was, uh, so, and before we land this plane, uh, on our United Motorsports moment of the night, um,


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[Assistant] I know that Diggs plays the villain role.


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[Assistant] Do you feel like, I mean, dude, listen straight up, he's pissed everyone off. Uh, a lot of, not everyone, a lot of his competitors and RB, you know that eventually you need friends. There's going to be times where you're going to be coming.


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[Assistant] Through the pack and it, and I do feel like it's okay to play.


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[Assistant] The villain at some point, but do you feel like he's crossed the line?


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[Assistant] Uhm, and he needs to pull it back a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like what's up? What's, what's your position on Cody Shock? Okay. Hey, it's last corner. It's four points. Take it away. What do you think?


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm, I'm pumped for Cody Shock and he's, I feel like he's had a break, I feel like he's had a breakout year. Yep. But.


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[Assistant] This is new to him. This is new territory to him, running up front, running with a guy on the last lap who is a SMX world champion.


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[Assistant] And he is a title contender for all intents and purposes. He's earned that right. Yep.


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[Assistant] If it's you and Stu, you and Chad, you and Dunge, are you, even if you mess that corner up, are you leaving that in, you leaving that much room? No.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the greatest gamble in motocross. It started as a deep dive into your perfect seasons, but we both quickly realized, well, you won all the races. That's not that interesting of a story. And we kept talking about


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[Assistant] Switching from Honda to Suzuki and everything that went into that. I mean like, we both said that's the story, how this happened, how you were recovering from a knee injury and people were doubting you and there was a lot of noise in the background. And it's a silly season story. Everyone loves a good silly season story.


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[Assistant] And especially that one, you know, it had never been told how did Honda let you go in the first place. How in the hell did Suzuki come up with the money to pay you? They hadn't been winning championships and you know, many championships in your lifetime.


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[Assistant] And uh, you know, thanks to the people around you, they were willing to.


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[Assistant] Dig through your archives and pull up old emails and contracts and really dive into all those details.


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[Assistant] 18 months off and on. Like I would pick it up, work on it, put it away. I would, I would, you know.


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[Assistant] Agent David Mormon, you know, this was your agent. That was a long time ago for him. He's not representing motocross athletes anymore. And for him to


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[Assistant] Say, okay, let me help out this guy who I don't even know. You know, let me dig through my archives. That was a big lift for him. And so I was waiting on information from him and Ricky Ryan.


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[Assistant] So much happens in these athletes lives, right? That they don't even know about.


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[Assistant] Contract details, uh, bonuses, you don't even know because you're so focused on racing that you, you don't even know what's going on in the back end. So I had to, you know, find your circle, everyone that was there with you during that time and get them to kind of spill the details, if you will, because


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[Assistant] Is it true, Ryan? Like you guys don't even know sometimes what's going on in the circle around you, right?


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[Assistant] I saved everything. No stone unturned, but you know, 20 years is a long time and memories fade. So you just keep digging and digging until you realize everyone's kind of telling you the same thing and you're not finding new information.


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[Assistant] I was there during both of your silly season switches, Ricky. Uhm, 01, Honda to, or Kawasaki to Honda, and then 04.


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[Assistant] Your switch from kawaii to honda was a secret. No one talked about it. We all knew about it, but no one said anything. It was this like...


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[Assistant] Uh, tense secret all through the summer. Whereas a few years later, you go from Honda to Suzuki


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[Assistant] And we all knew it, you were out with it, you talked to Cycle News, you interviewed with me about it, but it was like, okay, it's out there, now we're gonna go racing, let's not worry about it, we'll revisit this in September, October, when you'll see me on a yellow bike.


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[Assistant] Yeah, in the greatest gamble in motocross, we got deep into the numbers. We dug into Ricky's actual contract. So they're not just, we think maybe it could have been, no, we, we, we tell the numbers. RV, Ricky was part of the two biggest silly season stories in motocross history. Do you wish?


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[Assistant] You had had one of those stories to tell now, you know, 10 years after your career that you've been part of that scramble. As stressful as it is in the moment, I'm sure looking back on it, it's a pretty cool story.


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[Assistant] Chase Sexton is 24 years old. It is October. The deal has not been announced, but everyone and their grandmother has said goodbye to him from Honda.


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[Assistant] It's not been announced where he's going, but we know that he's going to be going to KTM after 146 races on a red bike.


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[Assistant] Yeah, last point on Chase. That is his kryptonite. Lost positions, right? And Eli doesn't do that. Jett doesn't do that. Hunter rarely does that. You look at Chase's stats from 2023. Indy, he went from 3rd to 10th. Seattle, he went from 1st to 5th.


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[Assistant] Those killed him, you know. In the end, it was Eli's first to 22nd, you know, at Denver there that did him in, but that's what costs you championships. It costs Eli the championship.


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[Assistant] And it could have cost Chase the Championship, had Cooper Webb stayed in it in 2023.


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[Assistant] RV, can you believe that Ricky never rode that Suzuki before he signed that contract? Can you even fathom that?


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[Assistant] That's a big deal for those companies because there is so much pride wrapped up in everything that they do, right? So to have some 20 something year old young man come in and ask those questions and well, can I do this instead? For them to say yes, that's a big deal.


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[Assistant] Well, Cooper Webb is back on Yamaha. He's already, he already has three races. He did the super motocross championships on the YZ450F. Uh, returning to Yamaha for the first time since 2018, but that is not the same bike. Speaking of similar equipment.


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[Assistant] We know that Eli won on that Yamaha. Should we expect the same out of Cooper and how much do we factor in what we saw in LA, Chicago and Charlotte?


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[Assistant] The Lawrence Brothers competing in their first 450 Supercross races together. Is there any reason why RV we shouldn't expect Hunter to win just as we expect Jet to win?


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[Assistant] Speaking of Eli, it is a busy truck over there at Star Racing Yamaha. Justin Cooper is expected to move to the 450 full time also.


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[Assistant] He comes into the season 26 years old, and he's, we've seen him in the 450 class. He started five races last year, 7-7, 10-9-6. Ricky, were you impressed by Cooper's debut, if you will?


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[Assistant] I think we're expecting him to go to Suzuki and, you know, be on the same team as Kenny.


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[Assistant] But Ferandus only has 31 supercross starts in three years in the 450 class, only started four races in 2023. RV, what does Ferandus need to succeed in this class? I think the answer is probably obvious.


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[Assistant] You know what's exciting about the 250 class in motocross and supercross? It's, it's freshies. No defending champions. Uh, Jet, Hunter have both moved on. Justin Cooper's moving up. Colt Nichols is already up there.


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[Assistant] So we're speculating here a little bit. Say he rides the 450 motocross class. Takes that into SMX, where you know you're not going to get the whoops. There are going to be some motocross type tracks. RC, does he finish top 10? Collect some cash.


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[Assistant] Last question, sorry, last question on this topic for both of you. You guys worked yourselves into the ground.


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[Assistant] And you were out. Do you notice, and I know you're not at the training facilities with these guys, but RV, you do work with Ryder DiFrancisco. Do you tell them don't?


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[Assistant] He was at Geico Honda until the end of 2020. Now he's back, he's with American Honda and he is expected to win. Right, RC?


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[Assistant] RV, what's it like to go to a team where they won everything in that class the year before and you have that pressure in the back of your mind where you can't not win to use a W.


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[Assistant] And apologies to the Hayden Degen fans. I said Honda won everything in the 250 class. I forget. We got three championships now. Hayden Degen is your 250 SMX champion. Levi Kitchen, the video is out there of him on his new Kawasaki. He is now with Pro Circuit, Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki.


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[Assistant] 22 years old, he turns 23 in the middle of the season next year in February. 378 in the SupermotoCross series. One career win, A2, 2023. Ricky, what do you expect?


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[Assistant] Ryan, you rode with Mitch. What is Levi getting himself into under the guidance of Mitch Payton?


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[Assistant] Moving on to TLD Red Bull Gas Gas. 18 years old. This will be his first supercross races, right RV?


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[Assistant] I mean, think about 1997 and how sideways it could have gone for you, Ricky. You hit the ground a couple of times that year.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm getting at though, like you guys have won a billion championships, but if you don't ride for a month, six months, a year,


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[Assistant] Dude. I like that. It's some real... What's that? Spicy?


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[Assistant] My guess for Dersi, it's, uh, it's the Beastie Boys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no man, it's a head cold. Um, I was thrown up on, on Thursday, Friday, stayed in bed all day Friday. I know it's going around. Um, so I can kind of still hear it up in my sinuses, but, uh, other than that, I feel good. Uh, got to watch it on, uh, got to watch race day live.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, tuned into that also, um, you know, the night program, uh, everybody who did a, did a great job, some amazing racing action was pat. It was action packed.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, we're gonna kick it off here for episode 2 of Season 2.


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[Assistant] Well, uhm, Jett was Jett, let's be honest. Uhm, I think, I have a big note right here on my paper, uhm, of our rundown. Biggest surprise to me, uhm, was CooperWeb. Uhm, CooperWeb was able to...


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[Assistant] I will, yeaah. So put pressure on Jett in Heat Race. And I don't think Jett was...


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[Assistant] I thought Jet was going to be able to, in his mind, I thought he was just going to...


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[Assistant] He was there, but he really wasn't there. He was con- he was a major contender, uhm, on a completely different 180 than what we saw in the last three. So I think in the heat race, uhm, Jet just made a small mistake, got a little off balance, you know, clipped the top block, fell over, got back up, but uhm, it was interesting to see Koop put-


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[Assistant] Put Jett in that position. Now Jett didn't panic. It was no big deal. He ended up winning the main event.


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[Assistant] You know, not by huge margins, but, uh, but nonetheless, he won. Um, so I think that, you know, it's going to be, uh, it's, it's a lot closer than I, than what I was expecting from Coop. You know, that's another guy that we can add into the major equation right now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you give him too much time to re-taliate and figure out where he's slow, where he, where he was, you know, maybe, maybe making a little mistake. So I just know by watching, it looked like Coop had a pretty good line after the second set of whoops, holding it tight and then jumping back across the start there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was. Jet was, was, was not st- I don't want to use the word stuck, but he had his line on the outside there, uhm.


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[Assistant] I don't know how much quicker or slower it was. It just seemed like it was a little bit safer, a little easier to roll around the inside and maybe it may be a tenth or two.


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[Assistant] But yea, if you're going to beat Jet, you're going to have to keep him honest and keep him on the ropes the entire race, um, and force him into a mistake. Cause if you are not on that kid's, you know, ride in his coat tails, he's not going to make a mistake. And if he does,


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[Assistant] He's, he's agile enough, he's good enough to, to fix that mistake or pick the motorcycle up very quickly and get going. Uhm, you know, it's gonna be hard to beat him if you don't pressure him and do a mistake.


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[Assistant] Yes, I think he may have been able to bridge the gap, but I also don't think Jett was riding


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[Assistant] All out. You know, I think he was writing all out. Uhm.


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[Assistant] He was, he was riding within his means of what he needed to do to win that Anaheim one, to win that main event. Uhm, I don't think we, uh, Coop or anybody else, you know, uhm, has put enough pressure on him to elevate his, to that next little tenth or two or half a second to lap.


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[Assistant] Yeah, was, is he on the rivet at that point or was he not? I personally, I don't think so. I think Jett was, was riding a very, a very fast race, but I don't think it was all out. I don't think it was like, Hey, I, I need to lay down some very quick laps. I think if you were to, to, to, uh, if say Coup would bridge that gap and start pressuring him, I think, uh, Jett has some more in the tank. I do.


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[Assistant] I totally agree. I think Koop typically starts off his Anaheim one, uhm, a little slow, right? In the first couple of rounds. I don't think, uh, he's not a typical, the guy that comes out swinging right out of the gate. He's more of a guy that kind of slows, comes into it and starts to build.


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[Assistant] What we saw of CooperWeb, Anaheim one, it was kind of what we see.


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[Assistant] First East Coast round, uhm, where he really, really kind of comes out and, uhm, and is fighting for those wins. Typically in the past, so it is nice to see.


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[Assistant] First round, first gate drop, he's right there in the mix. So that's, that I think was the surprising part for, for a lot of people.


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[Assistant] AP's got tons of talent, man. Uhm, you know, I think he, he, uh, his, his, his background from the off-road side, uhm, I think is, is, is, helps him with certain conditions on, on, on those Supergrass tracks. I know that with the little bit of rain that we had coming into Anaheim 1,


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[Assistant] Uhm, it was a, it was a little bit ruddy. I actually thought the conditions of Anaheim 1 were probably some of the best I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Um, track didn't interior rate too bad. Dirtworks did a great job, um, you know, maintaining the track, uh, building the track, the transitions looked, um, you know,


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[Assistant] Nice to see for Anaheim 1. It didn't catch a lot of these guys off guard. So it was an easier track for sure. Uhm, but that's the, I think AP just needs to get, get some, get his feet wet and start to knock down some of those positions right in front of him. And I think hopefully we'll, we'll find, he'll find himself.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in a position like he was last year, uhm, in knockdown, maybe a win.


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[Assistant] No, I don't think you lit it on fire, but I will say that, uhm, for me, I thought, uh, better than I was expecting.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, on that, you know, kind of a semi-factory privateer, um, phoenix Honda, I believe. Correct. Phoenix Honda. So good effort from, from those guys and Marty. Um, I think that's a, that's a hell of a start for Anaheim one, a new team, new bike, um, not a factory, uh, backed, uh, machines. So, uh, it's going to be interesting to see because I had him, I,


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[Assistant] I'll be honest, I kinda wrote him off, uhm, you know, coming into this season, uh, making that switch. I honestly, I did. So it's, it's, it's good to see where he's at.


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[Assistant] It is very early, uhm, I, it is very early, uhm, I know that Achilles is a major injury, we've talked about it before, uhm, I do feel like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I feel like, you know, I think he was 8th, right?


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[Assistant] Yep. I'm not, uhm, it's not panic mode, but it is from the outside looking in for me where I'm sitting. It's a little concerning. I will be honest.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think ehm, before you know it, if you get three rounds in and say it's a ninth this last weekend and then it's a seventh or a fifth or whatever, you get three or four rounds like that. Pretty soon you're way out of the points, right? Right away.


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[Assistant] So especially if jet keeps knocking down first and seconds podiums every weekend, um, the championship chase will be.


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[Assistant] We'll get away from you pretty quickly, so uhm, I know he doesn't want that, uhm, I think he definitely needs to, uhm, from the, like I said, from the outside looking in, I think he needs to, to improve, uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, it's interesting. Um, you know, right hand start. I mean, we have to, we have to have a topic on that. It's.


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[Assistant] It, uh, we typically don't see the right hand starts in, in, um, in super cross and par for, for the rear brake is, is on the right side. And, um, I've been in a situation where Jacksonville, um, I don't remember exactly what year it was, um, but I didn't make the main. So, um, you know, it's, it's, it's definitely.


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[Assistant] There's no rules against a right-hand, um, start, right? But from Feld's point of view, it, it adds a ton of, um, excitement, uh, you know, uh, uncertainty, uh, for the start, you know, because if it would have been a left-hand start, not to say we wouldn't have pileups, but it's, you're not going to see what we saw.


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[Assistant] Uhm, out of that right hand first turn, you got Coop, or you got, uh, uh, Hunter Lawrence going down, you got, uh, Kenny going down, Mookie going down, Justin Cooper going down. Uhm, there was, that thing tangled up a lot of dudes. That's what's the tough part about the right hand first turn.


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[Assistant] I do too, but the other thing is too, is I bet you, you can count the right hand first turns on one hand. So it's not like.


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[Assistant] See your point of it opening up options for dirt works and different track designs. Maybe it's something we just need to start implementing a little bit more of.


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[Assistant] And then Dirtworks will be able to know what first, how the right hand first turn works and how it doesn't. Like this was a fast right hander, doesn't need to be a slower right hand turn, a tighter first turn that's a right hander, uhm, to get guys slowed down. Is it more of a 180 first turn?


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[Assistant] verse, you know, like a 60 degree cause that was, you know, it wasn't, you know, it was a pretty fast right-hander into that rhythm section.


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[Assistant] So there's a lot of learning from both sides that I think need, need to be done, um, from the rider side and from dirt work. So I wouldn't say we need to get rid of them. I think that, uh,


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[Assistant] If it does, because I've never sat with the Dirtworks guys and asked them, hey, how does the right hand first turn affect or make it better or worse for track design?


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[Assistant] And if it opens it up a ton for, for new track designs, uhm, then I think we should start using them more and then guys will just get smart. It's just like anything. We've just been going left hand forever, you know?


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[Assistant] It's hard to tell. I kind of thought initially he might have caught his foot peg. It looked like right here, it looked like he really kind of rushed Anderson.


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[Assistant] It's hard to tell if you caught the foot peg or if the rear tire just caught a little bit of...


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[Assistant] Uh, like a kicker almost and look, let me, it doesn't look like there's a kicker there, but that those specific jumps there, you're able to rush so fast. And if your body position is just a little bit off, it'll give you that kick and you see how it kicked and then it kicked into the inside.


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[Assistant] of the motorcycle and then he went over the bars.


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[Assistant] Used Anaheim1 as a, as a good building block. I think he's, that's exactly what he did. He, he, you know, is in the points chase. He's, he, you know, got a decent finish, but yeah, as for, but pretty flat, to be honest, flat. Yeah, there you go. You know.


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[Assistant] Nothing special, uhm, didn't set the world on fire, I think, uhm.


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[Assistant] You know, it'd be interesting to step into his head and, and, and see, you know, what his actual real thoughts were. Uhm, if, if that was an 80% performance from him, if he thought he was 90, 100, uhm, is the bike a little bit off?


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, going and judging by the, by the track, I felt like.


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[Assistant] Looking at everybody's motorcycle, everybody's motorcycles looked pretty damn good. They did out on the track. There was no real fire drills. It seemed like throughout practice watching race day live, everybody looked pretty, and maybe that came down to the track being


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[Assistant] with, uh, you know, bikes and tracks set up and things like that. So, um, flat, I guess would be my.


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[Assistant] I think there's definitely, he's got more in the tank. Uh, it looked like he rode very, to me watching him ride, it looked like he was riding 80%. So if he's got another 20 in the tank.


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[Assistant] Then he should be right there with the boys, um, in these next few rounds. Uh, I think it was a smart move if he, if he was.


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[Assistant] Not feeling it, uhm, you know, typically we'd be talking about, hey Chase, you know, made a mistake, he crashed, he did this, you know, these are the things that happened. Uhm, we didn't see any of that, it was, it was a very, uhm, uneventful, seemed like main event, he didn't get a ton of TV time, so.


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[Assistant] Uhm, from what I saw was a fairly uneventful main event purchase, uhm, which is good, but also, like I say,


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[Assistant] If he's 80% and he's not 100 yet, then I think he's in good shape.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't really know exactly how he felt. Was he putting a hundred out there on the line? I'm going to say he wasn't. I'm going to say he's using Anaheim one as a, as a, as a good building block. Yes, Cooper went down, so he ended up on the podium. If not, he would have been fourth.


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[Assistant] I think he's got a lot to learn on that motorcycle too. Uh, so I'm hoping to see, you know, San Fran this weekend, uh, a different chase.


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[Assistant] Well, I think that number one, Ricky, uhm, we wouldn't have been on the outside. So, we wouldn't have been out there.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, obviously if we would have had bad practice, okay, yeah, great, uhm, we would have been on the outside. Uh, we wouldn't have been on that far outside, so we wouldn't have put ourselves in that position, number one. Uhm, I mean, it looked like he was about three or four,


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[Assistant] Gates outside of the box, so not crazy, uhm, but let's- I hate to say this.


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[Assistant] He was controlling the first turn and what do you do when you control the first turn? You come in and you, you're controlling everybody else. So, um, did he chop the rest of the field? Yes, he chopped the rest of the field, but he also had control of the first turn. So okay.


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[Assistant] That you're gonna, you know, end up pushing out to the, to the tough blocks. Um, I think he was really trying to get to the inside, which obviously as, as we saw, you explained it.


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[Assistant] Grabbed a hold of, uh, Hunter's front wheel. It kicked, it kicked, uh, Freezy's bike out. He almost high sided and it was kind of a domino effect after that. It wrapped up Chase, wrapped up Carnot. It wrapped up, uh, you know, the rest of the field. You know, so it's, it's tough.


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[Assistant] The biggest problem I see is, is, is Vince is always in these, in these, in this confrontation. I know writers sometimes hate to race him. I was one of those guys, like, you know, he's unpredictable and this was another unpredictable moment.


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[Assistant] He wouldn't have such a bad rap, but, uh, because of his situation, because he seems like he's always, um, a topic in, in, in takeouts or riding dirty or doing just straight up dumb things, um,


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[Assistant] He gets a bad rep, you know, but look, he did, he did have control of the first turn, uhm, and the guys that were behind him should have been on the breaks. That's kinda how I see it.


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[Assistant] Okay, if you- How can you get on the brakes that fast? Let me put you on the outside and you have the wheel on everybody. What are you doing? Chad's on the inside, James is on the inside.


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[Assistant] Maybe that's the difference between, that's the difference between your caliber of racing and mentality versus, you know, Vince's, right? So, uhm, and some guys, yeah, and some guys just never get to that, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, get to that mental capacity, uhm, of, of being a really, really smart racer like that. Because like you said, it, he was this close to high, for, for Hunter getting him to high side off the other side. So it was, it was, it was, it was literally this close for him to go down. And obviously you never want to go down in the first turn.


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[Assistant] You know, let's go back to that replay of him on the gate there. Uhm, very inside gate.


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[Assistant] Man, he blew the start, uh, against all these guys, uh, last chance. Yep. Last chance qualifier guys. Um, you know, I guarantee you they went back and looked and say, well, here's why you didn't make the main event. It's because of your start. Um, look, I mean, he is, he is literally the last guy in the term.


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[Assistant] Yep, and you cannot start, uh, you cannot start the last chance like that, you know, because


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[Assistant] Uh, excuse me, these guys are, are, are, are trying to make the bacon, right, to get into the, into the main event. So they're all going for it. And, and the biggest problem is, is when you're that caliber rider riding with those, those last chance guys is, is those guys are so unpredictable at the speed that Hunter's riding. So to make passes.


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[Assistant] Close calls, uh, they probably happen three, four times a lap when you're at hunter's speed in caliber of rider.


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[Assistant] Closing in on the rest of those guys from last and trying to come up to the pack and get into the last transfer spot, which is fourth.


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[Assistant] Uh, and I guarantee you they look back at that and, as he probably said, here it is. You blew this, you blew the, your chance at the main event on the line. Uh, because if you had a hole-shotted, Hunter wins the last chance, he's into the main event, and, end of story, right? He would have had outside gate pick for, for main event, which wouldn't have been awesome, but still he's in the main event, but, uh,


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[Assistant] His main event fate was sealed by, by that, that gate drop of, of that last chance.


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[Assistant] I'm sure he was a bit sore, you know, it looked like it took him a second to get up, you know, chase bounced right up, got his bike up, uh, pushed Hunter's bike off of his bike and took off, right? So it took, uh, it took Hunter a second to kind of gather himself and get back on the motorcycle and.


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[Assistant] And how bent up the motorcycle was probably was, uh, but ultimately I think.


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[Assistant] The, what really hindered him was how long it really took him to get up and get back on the motorcycle and get back up to speed.


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[Assistant] Uh, middle of the pack, if I would have been the lead, that would have never happened. Uhm, and then I end up off the track again. Uhm, there me and Breitnar, that's in the last chance. Uh, so yeaah, here we go, uh, to try to make it up and I, I never made it into the main event.


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[Assistant] Chaotic race, uhm, I actually tore a little piece of my retina just off the, you know, when I slammed my head on the ground there.


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[Assistant] Could say, uh, you know, that was, it was a, it was a tough position to be in because I believe I had, um, was right there with the points.


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[Assistant] Did you win the championship that year? I did win the championship still.


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[Assistant] That was a very, very, um, interesting race because I didn't end up not making the main out of the last chance. Uh, Stu made the main, but then Stu did very, something very similar to what I did in, in the, in that rhythm section. Didn't make, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, didn't finish the race and Chad and Canard went down to the, to the line and actually Canard ended up winning the main event. Um, and if it wasn't for Canard winning the main event, Chad would have, would have, I believe would have been two points up on the field, uh, with the points lead. And as everybody knows.


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[Assistant] Uh, you give Chad an inch, he's going to take a mile. Uhm, it could have been a different outcome. Uhm, if Chad would have had those, had that points lead, leaving, leaving Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] No, I think, uh, track was fine. Um, looking back at, at, you know, video like that and watching Anaheim one that we just had a right hand first turn. Um, everybody comes into the first turns.


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[Assistant] Like it's a left-hander, like I, I had no, I had zero regard for it being a right-hander.


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[Assistant] And it just showed in the, in the, in, in the, in the last chance where me and Brayton same thing got locked bars and we just blew off the track. That would have never happened on a left-hand track, on a left-hand turn. Uh, for whatever reason, it's just different. We're not accustomed to it.


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[Assistant] You know, I was very good at not, uhm, dwelling on, you know, the past and what had happened.


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[Assistant] I think in a situation like that, in anybody's situation like that, if bad weekend or


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[Assistant] I mean, really bad we can not making the main event in the premier class in the points chase nonetheless is, is very hard to, you know, for some of these writers to be like, Hey, I just, my season's blown, right? I I'm not making the main event. Uh, now my chances are over. I looked at it like.


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[Assistant] When Trey won, I looked at it like, uh, I'm still in this, I'm still in this fight. You know, that was kind of like.


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[Assistant] I knew I was still in it, but when Trey won the main event, I was like, okay, it's, it's, it's definitely not over yet. I'm still in it. Um, but you can't Monday when Monday rolls over, you're back at the track and you're.


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[Assistant] What happened Saturday night's over, that was last week, right? You have to...


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[Assistant] That was a lot of scenarios like that, you know, where, where James would, would, uh, would make some mistakes like that and, and, uh, you know, have, have issues.


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[Assistant] Is, uh, Joe, right? Um, yeah, no, we, that was a topic coming into this weekend. Can Joe start his, his season off better than he has and put himself in a position, um, to, to do, to, to be in this championship fight right out of the gate. Um.


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[Assistant] And, uh, it didn't happen once again, right? New team, new bike, uhm.


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[Assistant] Wasn't the finish that, uh, that he obviously wanted. So I think that was the big surprise to me. Uhm, you know, because I think.


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[Assistant] Jordan wrote a Phenomenal Race 2.


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[Assistant] I guess the other, other that started to go south was Levi. Uhm, he was up front there, right outside the lead.


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[Assistant] I thought he was gonna, you know, kind of find his rhythm and bridge that gap. He didn't, he actually lost.


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[Assistant] Uhm, touch of those front guys, uh, and then Max Volin was able to capitalize on that pass him, uh, but Levi was able to rebound and, and, and, uh, you know, stabilize himself in, in, in.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, pass, pass max back, but you know, it was.


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[Assistant] Look, I'm gonna be hard on Levi because I know him personally. I know his, I know his talent level. I know, uhm, I know his family fairly well. Uhm, I expect more out of Levi. Uhm, and I know Mitch does too. I think that Levi is a championship contender in this season, but, uh,


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[Assistant] He's not going to be able to have these races where it's just kind of mediocre. I would call, for Anaheim1, I know it's a lot of hype around this new bike for him, but to your point, it didn't look much different than last year. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] So, so, so that being said, as I'm expecting Levi, I'm expecting more out of you. Um, you know, I want to see you up, up, up front there, uh, racing for these wins, but, uh, he's going to have to.


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[Assistant] Get put himself in a better position on the, on the gate, you know, get a little bit better start, uh, and, and sprint with those guys. So, and, and, and not make mistakes. I think Levi's biggest, uh, issue that I feel is the little mistakes become, um, is the culprit for him. So, uh, he needs to, he needs to sharpen the knife a bit more.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he handled the pressure, the, that upfront, uhm, pressure that comes from leading your very first...


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[Assistant] And, uh, the kid's a fighter, but was, you know, he's not the most beautiful rider. Um, he, he's a little bit notchy, but man, he, he, uh, he held his own out there. I mean, Hampshire put pressure on him. Hampshire ran him high. He was able to, to, uh,


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[Assistant] Read behind him, know the situation, what was coming, hold it up high, drop back behind Hampshire. Um, you know, yeah, the wheels fell off after, after, you know, in the latter part of the race. Uh, and that's a big difference.


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[Assistant] We were doing 15 laps on a track that was about 51 seconds, right? So we have, now we're based off time as everybody knows. So we're doing 15 minute motos. This was a little bit of a longer lap time than, uh.


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[Assistant] Then some of the tracks we'll see coming up. Um, but that's a, that's a long, grueling, you know, first main event and for him to hold it together for, for, for, for that long and, and, and hold the positions that he held. Um, phenomenal start, uh, phenomenal start. I know that, uh,


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[Assistant] Carlos over there at KTM, this is kinda his prodigy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is kind of Carlos's prodigy. It's kind of funny that Davies is trainer and, uh, you know, Carlos is kind of like the manager.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so it's kind of kind of interesting to see those guys are all working back together.


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[Assistant] But Juju was, was, was, uh, better than I think everybody was, was expecting. And, um, I think the trajectory for him going upwards, uh, very quickly is, I think we're going to see that, uh, based off his performance at Anaheim one.


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[Assistant] But, uh, I can get around the, get around the buoys, but, uh, but no, like you said, the story and, and to see that he didn't start off with the normal path of, of these kids coming through 50s, 60s, all the way to Loretta's. I know he's been to Loretta's multiple times, but, uh, different, different path than, than, than a lot of these guys.


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[Assistant] It's cool to see that he's able to come up, uh, and, and solidify himself in, in this, in this 250 class. And look, he's, he's, he's not burned out. He's fresh. This is something new to him. Um, you know, so, so the sky's the limit, you know, for him.


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[Assistant] That's a line dude right there, come on.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna be honest, and, I dunno, Dino's probably not gonna, he's probably not gonna like me for this. Uhm.


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[Assistant] He doesn't already like you because of what your analysis was.


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[Assistant] First turn, alright, perfect. So, look, that was a, that's a huge right-hander. Uhm, long right-hander.


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[Assistant] Looks to be, when that replay plays again, looks to be fairly soon in the beginning of the race. Look, you can see everybody's very close in this shot.


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[Assistant] I think he should have known. He should have looked over. Um, doesn't matter if it was Vince Fries. Eli's read that right there behind him. I think if Eli would have been in that in, in Vince's position, he would have ran him up there. Now I will say that I don't think Eli would take, uh, Dino all the way to,


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[Assistant] But as you saw, as they land there, that's a huge spot of the track. You have a massive long entry to the turn and then it comes up and then you turn down into the rhythm section. Uhm, I feel like...


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[Assistant] That, uh, that's the move I would have put on Dean. Like I said, I would not have put Dean out to dry out into the tough blocks. That's a Vince Freeze move.


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[Assistant] I do think Dino should have been aware of, because it was on, I'm not going to call it opening lap, but it looks to be like a pretty...


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[Assistant] Yeah, pretty, pretty soon, uhm, in, in the race that you should have been aware of your surroundings and, and, uh, and, and looked over to the right.


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[Assistant] Look, I'm going to say it again. I don't think it was an overly aggressive move. I think it was, Vince Freezes Black Eye comes from, Vince Freezes Black Eye comes from pushing Dean out to the, just because that's his mentality. I don't know why you ha- just because you make a block pass on somebody doesn't mean you need to take them to the bails and, and, and touch them. Yeah, he's smoking.


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[Assistant] As you land from the triple, everything's okay until you get to the tough block area. I'd be pissed if I was Dean too, because he could have come down and they both would have stayed up and he would have made the pass. So like I said before, Vince's black eye comes from, from middle of the turn to the exit, not from the entrance of the turn. I feel like that's a huge section of the track that's


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[Assistant] Optimal passing point coming up the inside of anybody right there. That's my take. That's my hot take.


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[Assistant] How do you deal with, okay, before I answer, before I answer.


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[Assistant] Before I answer that, put yourself in that position and you got Reedy right behind you. Reedy's going to do the exact same thing right there. Now he's, and I don't think that, I'm not saying the exact same and you're going to have the, it's going to play out exactly the same, but Chad's going to run you out to hang you out to dry. Right? Oh yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I'm not going to come up in at the, where, the, the, the transition point of, hey, I need to turn down so he can, he can, he can come back down into the track, or am I going to run into the tough blocks and then we both go down. So that's, that's the point I would do different as, as, at my mentality, as,


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[Assistant] My racer instinct is, is to come in at that and catch him off guard and get him to stand his bike up.


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[Assistant] And then I'm, I'm going off with my racing. I've made the pass.


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[Assistant] Everything, the entrance of where Vince came in, I thought was totally fine because it was such a long broad turn. I don't think it was, I don't think the entry was dirty. I think the exit was dirty.


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[Assistant] And I agree. And I, like I had mentioned this before, it's all the other black guys that, that has on their record, you know, his rap sheets. It's that, that sucker's this long. I mean, every, it seems like every season.


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[Assistant] We're dealing with Vince or, or, or, or Barsha, you know, to some degree. Um, Justin will do it. I think, you know, Justin will get a warning and then you'll see it maybe one other time. And then Justin cleans up his act, right?


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[Assistant] You know, if it's once or twice a season that Vince does this, I mean, I don't, he's even, he's not even a topic right now, um, on our show, but because it seems like it's, it's every season he's, he's in some type of, of, uh, conflict.


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[Assistant] Situations like this, uhm, you know, we just watched it in, in, in the heat race with Hunter, uh, which I had said, I expressed my feelings on that. I feel like you controlled the first turn.


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[Assistant] That was to me, uh, not as, not as, not as bad as, as some of the other stuff I've seen, but it just seems to come around all the time. And I think that's where.


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[Assistant] You know, if that's a ten thousand dollar fine, not a, not a five hundred, not a thousand, not twelve hundred.


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[Assistant] It's got a sting, right, to educate them on, hey, this is 10 grand, I do it again, it's 20 grand, you know.


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[Assistant] Pretty soon, those are, those are some big numbers that we're talking about, which will clean up his act one way or another, or the kid's going to go broke.


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[Assistant] And just like what we saw, you know, nine times out of ten it seems like Vince makes it out unscathed, right? But this particular situation, what we just watched with Dean, uh,


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[Assistant] But it wasn't like a big cartwheel. He should have got up. So obviously he hurt something, uhm, to some degree, uh, that was, that he wasn't able to finish the main event, uh, or that race. So, you know, you put yourself in a position like that, you know, riding.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and now there's a big topic of, probably on Vital, uh, Title 24 is a topic of, you know, how do you fix this? What's the scenario? All the things we've been talking about, uh, how to clean up his act and, uh, you know, I think that,


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[Assistant] You gotta, you gotta be better, gotta be better about it. I do, like I do think if we go back and watch that replay one more time.


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[Assistant] As soon as Dean comes into the turn, mid turn, right?


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[Assistant] That's the difference between, you know, a top, top caliber rider of Eli, of Kenny, of Jett, of Hunter, of any of those top guys. They're going to use that entrance just like


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[Assistant] Vince did, but they're not gonna take him all the way to the bales and mangle both of them up and have him go down. I think, uh, that's my take.


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[Assistant] I did see that on Instagram. Uhm, I'm gonna-


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[Assistant] I don't, it looks like to me that looks, the sun looks out. So it looks like it's practice of some sort. I'm not sure which one, but I'm going to chalk that up to Jett just being a kid. He's just being a smart ass.


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[Assistant] That's the, that's the, the fun and cool thing that, that I think Jet brings to the table that, um, none of these older guys do is, is like, he's, he ultimately is keeping it very fun. Um, you know, it's, it's, it's young, dumb and ready to go racing, you know?


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[Assistant] I can't wait till Kenny, Kenny kind of, you know, whoops them all around the track and gets that Kickstarter up on the win again.


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[Assistant] A quick thought is, uh, cool to be back in San Francisco. You know, I've been in Oakland for a long time. That stadium's really cool. It's obviously downtown, um, right up against the water. So yeah, good, good stadium.


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[Assistant] I'll be looking for Jett to be up front. I'm hoping that, uh, you know, Coop will be able to put a little more pressure on him, uh, along with Jason Anderson.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, doing the same thing and I'm looking to see a little bit of a rebound. I don't know if I call it a rebound, but, uh, have chase, you know, up in the mix along with Eli figuring out or seeing where.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, he can drop into, into this second round, uhm, and improve his, his position or speed, uhm, hoping to see a little more out of him. So that's 450.


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[Assistant] 250. We'll see. RJ Hampshire is on a roll so far. He rode phenomenal. Uh, very consistent. Uhm, he was class of the field. Yep. Class of the field. I'll be looking for Jordan Smith and Levi to, uh, Levi Kitchen to, to put some pressure on him. And, and, and we all know that, that, uh, Jordan,


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[Assistant] Can they, or sorry, um, RJ can make mistakes he has in the past. So it's going to take the pressure from, from Jordan or Levi or Joe Shimoda to force RJ into those mistakes. Um, so that's what we, that's what I'll be looking for.


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[Assistant] I pulled the whole shot and I decided to jump the finish line and I crashed.


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[Assistant] And I, I know we're gonna spend some, some, some time on this next subject, but, uh, for the United Motorsports moment of the night, obviously.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's gotta be Austin Forkner's crash. Uh, we got some tape on here. Uh, and before we break it down and give our analysis, Aaron, if you could just run, uh, run it here.


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[Assistant] This is, uh, yeaah, I mean, from, from, you watched, you watched the broadcast, RB, like, what, what was your initial thought? Were you ex, like, I mean, you never expected him to do something like that, I'm not guessing, but did you, I mean, like, yeaah, what, what did you think of it?


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[Assistant] Yeah, like I was in such a tough moment there. Number one, I couldn't believe what I was seeing because these are the moments like.


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[Assistant] And, and this isn't, this isn't going to be fun for me to talk about RV, but we're not doing our job and, and if, if we don't, if we don't do this and break it down and explain what, what,


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[Assistant] What happened? Why it happened? And how do you avoid situations like this again?


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[Assistant] These are the scenarios that we wanted to see Austin Forkner in and how he would react. Right? This is like, okay, um, Deegan was behind him the whole time. Deegan lost some time, pulled back in.


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[Assistant] He fell back a couple bike lengths or a second, but he was still there and he had to, he had to, he had to roll. Like, you know, the pressure was there and if he slowed up anymore...


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[Assistant] Hayden was definitely going to get on his rear tire and probably try to make a move for the, uh, for the lead, so.


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[Assistant] And sometimes you have to slow down to go faster. And again, it's not ideal when, when, when you have to do that, especially when you're being pressured, but.


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[Assistant] You, you, you have to know what you can get away with and to your point, I think you broke it down right. He came into that section with way more speed than he needed to and he blew through it.


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[Assistant] Get checked up and then preload the bike enough to get the pop that I can to make sure that I backside that tabletop, you know, and that's, that's one of those moments like you talked about.


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[Assistant] RV is that you, you got to know that you've got to know that you got to know that line and you have to have the discipline to do the right things in the crucial part of the race and at the perfect time.


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[Assistant] You know, like people can blame the track, they can blame the section. I saw some, I saw some comments about that was a dangerous section. Okay, well, we, we've cut the whoops down.


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[Assistant] I, I, yeah, uh, I hate it for, for Austin, I hate it for...


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[Assistant] You know, there were definitely, Austin certainly had better qualities, uh, and was doing better, I feel like, as a writer, but it's still, it's, it's the same, it's the same result at the end of the day.


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[Assistant] Welcome everyone. Another episode of title 24 presented by NBC sports. I'm Ricky Carmichael. Got my cohost Ryan Villapoto. Uh, as always, before we get going, we got to thank our sponsors, united motor sports, box. So USA quad lock and Dunlop.


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[Assistant] Uh, happy to have you guys as partners and a board and enjoying the ride with us. RV, an epic race this week, uh, in Detroit, lots to talk about.


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[Assistant] This week, uh, on the episode, so I'm, I'm looking forward to it. Uhm, the initial thoughts on the track, uhm, as we like to do on Title 24 is, uhm, have a lot of fan reaction and, and engagement with them. Uh, Howitz91 says,


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[Assistant] What gets impacted most by racing short tracks? Uh, it was a short track for sure, RV. What do you think is the biggest impact when it's a short track like that?