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[Assistant] He and Elwin were not friends at the end, I'm afraid, but their disagreement, which was passionate, was the kind that only mathematicians could possibly have. Namely, Conway thought that infinite games were important too, and Elwin only thought that finite games were important.


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[Assistant] And this, they locked horns over this. And I think it, in some way, it stopped progress for a while on their big book. And at one point, Elwyn threatened to sue Conway for non-delivery of, of the manuscript, so to speak. Uhm, it never came to that.


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[Assistant] Erdős was a real character, a special, special person. Conway was a real character. I don't think I know anybody in that category who's alive today.


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[Assistant] Today's guest is Simon Pamperner. People who watch our videos will doubtless recognise Simon's wild curly hair and unbridled passion for all things mathematical.


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[Assistant] His videos have been watched millions of times, including Epic Circles and The Legend of Question 6. But on the other side of the world, in Simon's homeland of Australia, his careers followed an interesting path.


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[Assistant] From hanging upside down in trees, attempting to be a Jedi, to analyzing the statistics of wine sales.


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[Assistant] So Simon, how do you introduce yourself? Like, do you say Pampana? You pronounce it correctly?


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[Assistant] I'm Adelaide proud. I think I'm more Adelaide proud than you are from previous conversations we've had.


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[Assistant] So as a child, what were you like? Were you geeky? Were you really into mathematics? Was, you know, was the writing on the wall?


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[Assistant] Do you know, uh, Mark Hamill liked one of my tweets the other day. I don't think I've ever been more excited in my life. Like Luke Skywalker himself interacted with me.


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[Assistant] I mean, most people like to say the empire strikes back, but I could see you being a return of the Jedi man.


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[Assistant] So when you weren't hanging upside down from trees trying to use the force,


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[Assistant] Also though, I mean, obviously anyone who's seen you in our videos and the many videos and things you're in, you have like this incredible shock of hair, which is really like, you know, striking looking. Did you have like sort of Einsteinian hair then, or were you a bit more trim?


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[Assistant] So if I'd spoken to you when you were at an age, you know, in mid sort of teens where it's, you start to actually seriously think about what do I want to be when I grow up? Yep. Beyond, you know, astronaut or fireman and you're starting to seriously think, okay, what am I going to be? Yep. What sort of answers would I have been getting in like high school as you start making those


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[Assistant] Decisions about what subjects to do and what would I've heard.


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[Assistant] What did you want to do? Did you want to like make rockets or build nuclear bombs or what did you see yourself doing if you had achieved this goal?


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[Assistant] You say you were nerdy, were you shy or were you kind of outgoing, you know, show off performer as a boy, as a teenager?


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[Assistant] You think that gave you the taste though? That gave you the, that was your gateway drug.


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[Assistant] This was a show in Australia where it was like a sort of a magazine style show where there's a series of reports about technology and what the future is going to be like, you know, look at this new thing. It's called a computer printer and things like that. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Simon, do you think you had that right? Because that feels to me like a stereotype that a lot of popularizers of mathematics and physics and that try to overcome, you know, oh no, we're not nerdy people. It's a fun life as well.


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[Assistant] And you're kind of now reinforcing that stereotype that people think, oh, I don't want to be a mathematician. They're all nerds. You're kind of saying that was the impression you got when you started surrounding yourself with them.


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[Assistant] So what is University of Hugh Simon? Is it sitting in maths and physics lectures and then going to the pub with the art students?


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[Assistant] Okay. What happens then? How do you kind of start a career?


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[Assistant] What kind of factors go into forecasting wine sales? Obviously you can look at what's been sold before, but are you looking at things like weather or demographics or what kind of inputs are going into that? That sounds fascinating.


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[Assistant] Okay, well keep me going on the path then. I feel like we're still a long way from where we are now. How do you suddenly become this math superstar of Australia?


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[Assistant] Was it math related Simon or was it just like general comedy or?


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[Assistant] Are you still working in the wine industry at this stage? Like at what point do you let go of the safety of a normal paying job?


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[Assistant] Simon, reading between the lines, it sounds like, you know, you had some bad shows, you had some duds as you were learning along the way. Why did that not deter you? Why did you keep getting up to get punched in the face again and again? Like you just, you obviously had some belief you were on the right track.


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[Assistant] I think it must be like golf. The first time I ever hit a golf ball with a driver by fluke, I hit it beautifully and it went really straight and far. And I thought that felt great. This is amazing. And I've probably hit a hundred thousand golf shots since that have all been terrible. But that first, that first one just kept me going.


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[Assistant] Is that a stubbornness or is that a kind of just a, you know, a mindset of give it a go? Or is it like a lack of shame?


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[Assistant] Now tell me, how does this become your job Simon? How do you break the shackles of wine statistics?


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[Assistant] So you flew to Sydney for one night just to the intent of semi-crashing the party and networking.


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[Assistant] That's such a fancy job title, Australian Numeracy Ambassador.


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[Assistant] Does it also give you like diplomatic immunity from like parking tickets and stuff when you're abroad? Becoming an ambassador.


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[Assistant] Oh, you get to go through that channel and don't have to line up for your passport.


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[Assistant] What do you do now? How do you describe your job now? How do you eat?


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[Assistant] So, I mean, a lot of people you might talk to about public engagement with mathematics. We'll talk about a lot of altruistic things, like I think mathematics is so important for the future of humanity and I want to progress it and inspire the mathematicians of tomorrow.


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[Assistant] But a lot of the time talking to you, maybe you're just being brutally honest, but a lot more of it is, I love it when people laugh at me. I love it when people applaud. It seems a lot of your drive is coming from just like a more base, just love of performance, you know?


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[Assistant] Performing to an unreceptive audience that hates mathematics can be discouraging and the pleasure you'll get from then performing to a receptive audience that appreciate mathematics.


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[Assistant] How do you reconcile that preaching to the choir, the ease of having a rapport with an audience that already appreciates mathematics to, you know, are there uncrackable nuts?


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[Assistant] You must see a lot of science communication by other people, whether they're kind of professionals or want to be professionals or just scientists and mathematicians who are doing a bit of outreach on the side. What do you think they do wrong the most?


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[Assistant] Earlier in our conversation, you were telling me about when you were a boy.


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[Assistant] Wanting to make a breakthrough, wanting to prove something in the theoretical realm that hadn't been proven before and even writing such a proof, however ill conceived that may have been.


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[Assistant] That's quite unusual for someone so young to already be thinking that way, to, you know, that this is how mathematics works, this is how you become great in the world of mathematics and physics.


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[Assistant] And yet you haven't gone down that path. Rather than being a hero of science and mathematics, you've become someone who tells the story of the heroes.


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[Assistant] Do you ever wish you'd go on that other path, that other river that we were making videos about the Pampino theorem?


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[Assistant] Would you swap it? Do you envy those people if you had that divine power to swap your performance abilities and life you've had to be Terry Tao?


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[Assistant] Well, Simon, I don't know when I'm going to get to see you again and film in person for Numberphile. At the moment, it feels like it's a million years away as we're locked in our houses on opposite sides of the world. I hope it's not too long because it's always really good fun for me and your videos are always super popular on Numberphile. So let's do it again soon, hopefully.


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[Assistant] I was scheduled to come before the pandemic. I was over. I was there. I was going to be there. It was on.


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[Assistant] We'll see. I have given some thought to coming over for a few weeks, but we'll see. If I do, I'll come over to Melbourne and, uh.


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[Assistant] That's all from us today. Our thanks to Simon. And until we get to make more videos together, I'll link to some of his work and other material in the show notes. Please do have a look.


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[Assistant] Also thanks to MSRI in Berkeley, California for its support of Numberphile. We'll be back again soon with another episode.


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[Assistant] Frankly, uh, uh, she gave us this image that she was basically 008 or something.


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[Assistant] But mathematics was never one of those, but I don't remember being very good at it.


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[Assistant] Um, AI would help us to start to see things that without this tool we wouldn't be able to see. But there's a really interesting quality to.


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[Assistant] I'm the involvement of AI and doing mathematics because when you're doing scientific experiments then you know it is about finding some sort of correlation between one set and another mathematics has a slightly different quality about it and it's about proof so i think.


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[Assistant] Everyone's first thought was, well, how is AI going to be used, um, in actually doing mathematical proofs?


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[Assistant] Computers have been used in mathematical proofs over the last few decades. The most famous one is the use of a computer in the four colour map problem that it was involved in checking a huge number of


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[Assistant] Examples but a finite number that a human would have taken ages to to get through and that seems like an obvious thing for.


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[Assistant] A computer to do, but that wasn't terribly creative. It wasn't coming up with a kind of new pathway. It was just checking examples and that up to, you know, a few years ago is really the role that a computer was playing. It was just doing donkey work, but the real challenge was, well, could a,


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[Assistant] Computer actually do something more interesting than just a human telling it what to do. Could it find new things to do?


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[Assistant] And so, you know, I suppose, you know, a mathematician's bread and butter is coming up with proofs.


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[Assistant] And that I don't think we have seen yet. What we're seeing here is something of a slightly different nature and a slightly more kind of scientific pursuit, which is okay.


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[Assistant] Let's look at the data and see if we can find new connections that we haven't seen before.


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[Assistant] This is a great use of AI in coming up with new conjectures rather than new proofs. And that's certainly an important part of doing mathematics, but I think it's important to kind of qualify. This isn't


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[Assistant] An AI coming up with a new proof of the Riemann hypothesis, for example. This is an AI coming up with the idea of a new conjecture like the Riemann hypothesis rather than a proof.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and actually you know what, if you look back at the history of mathematics, this is a really important way that people came up with new insights. I mean, I think if you look at Carl Friedrich Gauss when he came up with his conjecture about the prime number theorem, about the way that primes


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[Assistant] Thin out as we climb higher and higher through the universe of numbers, you know, the primes look very random, but he was able to, to take the data as, you know, he took tables of primes and started to see a pattern which was connected to the logarithm function. And that gave him a conjecture.


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[Assistant] And it wasn't proved until kind of a hundred years later that that connection was really a true connection. So.


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[Assistant] The thing about data is often you need a huge amount of data to really start to sniff out what's going on inside there. And so this is perfect territory.


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[Assistant] For machine learning and artificial intelligence because you know there's a limit to how much our brains can take in and how much we can kind of see what's going on and this is where.


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[Assistant] Various connections between two sets of data.


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[Assistant] You know, vary the functions around and start to see, oh my gosh, it's a very small bit of this data, which is driving the other data set. So I compare it a little bit to, I think that moment that Galileo got a telescope and suddenly was able to see deep into the solar system, into our universe and see things we hadn't seen before.


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[Assistant] We have huge amounts of data and kind of our own human embodiment is finding it difficult to navigate and see patterns there. And that's where this new telescope, this data telescope can help us to sniff out those patterns and make suggestions. But it's interesting that still we're.


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[Assistant] Handing, you know, the AI is then handing over to us to try and prove why there is a


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[Assistant] So it's, it's, it's a very interesting new sort of collaboration there. And what I'm, I think the real challenge is going forward. When will we see actually AI coming up with a really creative way to prove, um, some of these conjectures rather than throwing up, um, uh, this, this connection?


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[Assistant] The AI is really about chewing on data and, and kind of getting a feel for what's going on. It isn't so good necessarily at coming up with these kind of 100% proofs.


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[Assistant] I think that that's quite a distinct possibility that we'll, we'll start to see AI chewing on all of these numbers that we can generate, uh, and, uh, proposing, you know, more and more conjectures. But I think that's, that's fine because that's really, you know, where mathematics begins is, is suddenly seeing that far distant


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[Assistant] Mountain and saying, wow, I think there's a path to get there and then, uh, cause it's very difficult to head out.


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[Assistant] Into the unknown if you can't see a destination in the distance to head towards. And that's kind of what the AI is offering. I think there is something out there for you to go and find.


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[Assistant] I think that the benefits far outweigh the disappointment that I might feel for, oh, I wish it was one of our side that came up with this connection because I, one of the most exciting moments is


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[Assistant] The ability to find a conjecture perhaps is more valuable than coming up with the final proof of that conjecture and it often is.


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[Assistant] In some ways the hardest thing because, you know, there's nothing there until you see a hint of something going on. So I think that comparison with a telescope is really a strong one. Why would we limit ourselves to doing, um, uh, astronomy with our naked eye?


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[Assistant] Just because we want to see it, uhm, uh, we really want to see it ourselves. No, I'm quite happy to stick a few bits of glass in front of my eye and see further. So I think we just need to consider it a bit like that. Yeah, we got the opportunity to stick a telescope in front of our mathematical eyes and see some things that we couldn't see before.


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[Assistant] I think we're really seeing a little bit of a transformation moment in the mathematical community where


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[Assistant] People are beginning to realize that it's, it's silly just to rely on, uhm, just human tools if we've got other tools that can help us to, to make these discoveries. I think the really important point is that


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[Assistant] In the past, actually, the role of a computer could often obscure that, uh, understanding of why the thing is like it is. If it's just churning through examples that it was almost like,


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[Assistant] CD player is listening to the music, but you're not, and then you turn it up at the end and you hear the final chord. It's very unsatisfying. So, so I think that we will.


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[Assistant] Be okay with this if we feel like it's helping us to, um, to have that understanding rather than just.


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[Assistant] Taking over and saying, yeah, it's true, but I'm not really going to tell you why it's true because I understand it's really complex though. You're just going to have to believe me on this. You know, that, that I think is, is the fear that.


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[Assistant] Will the complexity of these solutions, you know, if it starts to be really good at theorem proving, is it just going to come up with such complex


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[Assistant] Yes, when I wrote the creativity code, one of the things I was interested in is how good it could be as a mathematician, because I believe that coming up with proofs is a very creative act. And there were some early examples of trying to use machine learning to come up with proofs. What they did was...


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[Assistant] I do as a mathematician is to read lots of, uh, proofs in the past, get an intuition, a feel for the direction to go in logically when I'm making new moves. And it was trying to pick up a feel for, you know, what logical move would make sense next in, from what I've learned.


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[Assistant] But it was, yeah, it was proving some theorems, but they were really uninteresting theorems. So what it hadn't got was the quality of the sort of, um, aesthetic nature of what we regard as exciting insights versus just rather boring, logical, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly, all the significance of it. They, uh, but you see, it can learn significance because it starts to see, well, what, what are the significant results that are in the literature already? I mean, this is the point about machine learning. It takes the data. It's okay.


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[Assistant] This, it seems, humans seem to think these are very valuable sorts of discoveries, so I will try and match my discovery to fit the parameters that I'm picking up in the journals already. So I don't think it's something that machine learning couldn't learn, the things that we love proving.


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[Assistant] But I think there's one thing that's going for AI and machine learning when it's doing mathematics because mathematics in some sense is a very young activity. It's, we've really only been doing it for a couple of thousand years and actually the amount of time that humans


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[Assistant] Small so I think, you know, just in the same way as often you get a very young person making a big breakthrough, they sort of get.


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[Assistant] As long as they immerse themselves in the world of mathematics, they can get quite a maturity beyond their kind of years, but actually their mathematical years they are mature.


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[Assistant] How did I become a mathematician? I, I read a lot of theorems and, and learned the techniques and, and then I started making my own moves. I don't see that the domain that AI will have to sort of journey over is that.


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[Assistant] That would be, it's very hard to replicate in AI, whilst I think our mathematical intuitions are probably of a,


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[Assistant] Much less complex nature that an AI might get to that stage where it's got the maturity that is starting to make interesting mathematical breakthroughs.


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[Assistant] It's possible, but I don't think that that's what I'm seeing in any domain really, that what I find is that, you know, I think we have a terribly linear way of looking at that kind of...


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[Assistant] Challenge, which is, you know, we talk about the singularity, the moments that AI is more intelligent than humans. And I think intelligence is so much more multi-dimensional that, yeah, I think there'll be directions in which AI will be much better than humans, but


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[Assistant] The evidence is that there are some things that humans seem to be better at judging rather than the AI. And so that's why I think, you know,


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[Assistant] I'm always talking about the power of collaboration in this that's, you know, better to work together and we'll get so much further than trying to expect one, uhm, to, to do it all on their own.


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[Assistant] I thought for some time about how to use this tool, because I could see it was very powerful, but what I found is that you need to be in a research area which has a lot of data that you can kind of let the AI, uh, loose on.


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[Assistant] That's the sort of place where human intuition may be much, um, better because we seem to have got very good tools for navigating infinity. Also, my emphasis is more on mathematical proof. So I felt that the sort of way I do mathematics is generating proofs as a way of exploring what's going on.


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[Assistant] Might make me reassess how to use this as a tool in doing what I do, which I think is, is really exciting. So to see a proof of concept, yeah, this can be done. So you have to find kind of two datasets you might think have something to do with each other and, and then let the AI loose to say,


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[Assistant] Seasonal coronaviruses, although they're much milder in terms of their impact, we do see this evolutionary change over


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[Assistant] Today I'm speaking with Professor Mike Merrifield. He's an astronomer at the University of Nottingham.


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[Assistant] I've been filming and interviewing Mike for something like 14 years, I think. He's a mainstay of my channel's 60 symbols and deep sky videos. And he's also cameoed here on Numberphile in the past. Like so many scientists, his career path is really fascinating to me. And in this discussion,


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[Assistant] I learned many things about Mike I didn't know before. So prepare for a meandering discussion about submarines, judo, and the benefits of having terrible handwriting.


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[Assistant] And this here's a question. What day of the week were you born, do you know?


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[Assistant] So if you've got a father who's a museum curator, you're obviously surrounded by some pretty interesting stuff and curios. Did that inform you at all? Did you, do you have memories of running around museums and looking at cool old stuff and.


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[Assistant] So I'm imagining archaeology loomed reasonably large in your life. Was it something that interested you at all as a youngster?


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[Assistant] If I went back in time and asked you what you wanted to be when you grew up, what would you have said to me?


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[Assistant] So you had gotten to a point where you were thinking of applying or had you already been told?


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[Assistant] Before you even went down this path, forget it, because of the vision thing.


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[Assistant] You couldn't have gone further from being under the ocean to looking at galaxies. It really was completely the opposite direction. Yeah, absolutely. So what were you good at and what were you into as a sort of teenager in high school?


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[Assistant] Was it that illegible that you couldn't read it or was it, was it hard for you to do it? Was it a chore to write?


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[Assistant] But did you enjoy those subjects? Did you like the idea of studying history or humanity subjects or?


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[Assistant] So as you pushed through high school, you obviously were getting decent enough marks. Eventually you've got to make decisions eventually about university. What happens next?


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[Assistant] What was the change from school to university like for you? Like how big a step change was it?


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[Assistant] And once you're at university and studying physics, did you start finding a niche? Did you find a passion then or?


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[Assistant] So as you complete through this, the options, astronomy sounds like finally astronomy has bitten you. What happens when you come to the end of your degree?


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[Assistant] And presumably, obviously you had to pass this exam, but you also presumably had to find a PhD supervisor who liked the cut of your jib and had a topic for you. Who was that and where did you go and what did you specialize in?


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[Assistant] How did having a year out put you behind the curve when you finally went over to the US then?


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[Assistant] I'll try. So after this early stage of the PhD, you eventually are specializing. How did, what do you specialize in?


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[Assistant] Are you picking a supervisor based on the person or based on the topic?


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[Assistant] Because I guess when a lot of people think of astronomy at that superficial level, they're thinking of, you know, the planets and moons and stuff, but you're, you're a galaxy man.


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[Assistant] Just a very quick break to thank our episode sponsor, Jane Street, and they're a very appropriate supporter indeed. Jane Street is a trading firm that leans really heavily into research and the curiosity side of things.


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[Assistant] I'm going to pause for a second and put my number file hat on a bit more firmly. How important was and is mathematics at this point? How good do you have to be at mathematics to be?


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[Assistant] An astronomer at the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics or anywhere else for that matter.


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[Assistant] A less mathematical astronomer teams up with a very mathematical one and they tackle the problem in two ways or?


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[Assistant] What are some of the mathematical tools that are used that I might be familiar with? Like, you know, what are some of the disciplines that you dip into?


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[Assistant] Nice one. I'll have to look that up sometime. You complete your PhD presumably because I'm, I call you doctor and professor. So I hope you did complete it. I did. Yes. What did you do next?


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[Assistant] Did you ever, did you ever make that, uh, archaeology, astronomy link with him? Say, I feel like I'm doing what you do.


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[Assistant] Cause that sounds really hard cause obviously in astronomy, a key thing from what I know of astronomy is to try and get observation time on telescopes, maybe, or so you can get some data to get your teeth into. But I imagine prestigious professors and doctors find it easier to get that time than some lowly postdoc. So you're really like, you must really be in the wilderness.


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[Assistant] I've heard of the postdoc trap where you just go from postdoc to postdoc.


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[Assistant] This is where an organization funds your work for a number of years.


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[Assistant] So you're saying you can have me for free for X number of years and then, then.


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[Assistant] Southampton, that's the, that's the start of your career as a grown up astronomer. You're not there any, you're not in Southampton anymore because we're sitting in Nottingham.


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[Assistant] I mean, you've done various things. You've been the head of the physics school here and whatnot. Uhm, you've also done lots of research. I know you've written a textbook that's quite, quite well known. What's kind of like, what's gonna, what would be...


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[Assistant] I hope you have more left in you as well. I hope you have more astronomy left in you, of course, as well. I'm sure you do. But like as of now, what would be like, what's the thing you're most pleased with that you've accomplished as an astronomer research wise?


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[Assistant] This is obviously synthesizing a lot of research done by the whole astronomical community. What about you yourself research wise? Has there been sort of a most cited paper or sort of a, there's no like, you know, Merrifield phenomena out there or anything, but is there a like a, is there a thing you're associated with or you associate yourself with at least?


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[Assistant] Has there ever been a moment where you've realized something or just feel like you've sort of discovered something or like thought, Oh, I think I've, I think I figured that out. And then, you know, turns out you're.


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[Assistant] When I first started working with astronomers like you, I sort of created this picture in my head that astronomers either decide they want to discover something or they have a theory they want to then prove is the case. They apply for.


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[Assistant] Using pre-existing observations, huge reams of data, surveys that have been done in the past and they're just picking over the wreckage in a new way or looking for something new in that existing data that no one has seen before.


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[Assistant] Is it more that way? Is it 50-50? Is it more one of the other? How does it, how does it work being a, an astronomer, a research astronomer?


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[Assistant] That feels like more and more of a role for mathematics. There's a lot of number crunching.


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[Assistant] But is that a sign of the maturity of the science? Like, does it, does it get to a point where you know too much for one person to be able to do that anymore? It is, you know, that's the problem with particle physics, isn't it Mike?


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[Assistant] Galactic astronomer, when we start going to Mars, is that good for you or bad for you? Because I can see how it would be good for you because space is becoming more relevant and more money's coming in and people, people are pro space. But on the other hand, that pot of money that is going into spacey stuff might start going more into Mars stuff and less into where you want it to go.


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[Assistant] We'll be quite interested in sort of career path and progression. Some of them may want to be an astronomer. You obviously have a lot to do with admissions and see students coming in all the time into university. What have you got to say about that? Have you got advice or just observations about the sort of people who are coming through that want to be astronomers that want to do what you do?


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[Assistant] Do you ever get people coming in here saying, I want to be an astronomer, I want to study astronomy and you look at them and think, I don't think you should.


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[Assistant] What are some of those Plan Bs? What are some of the good astronomy students you've had here gone on to do? A huge array of stuff.


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[Assistant] Ordnance Survey is sort of the map, mapping agency of the UK for those who don't know. Yeah, they make maps. Yeah. Do you ever wish you were in a submarine? Did they change that submarine requirement?


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[Assistant] Any other career you would like to have done? Do you have a, do you have a look and think, oh.


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[Assistant] Alright, nice. Let me ask my cats in the cradle question. You felt like you pushed back against archaeology a bit because that was dad's thing. You're now a dad. Yep. Does your young one have an interest in astronomy? None at all.


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[Assistant] Well that's all for today. Our thanks again to Jane Street and a reminder their site is jane street dot com. Also do take a look at the notes for this episode. I'll include links to 60 symbols, the physics channel I mentioned earlier. Mike features really heavily there.


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[Assistant] And deep sky videos, which has been a real labour of love for both Mike and myself. With the help of several other astronomers, we made 110 videos about each and every of the so-called Messier objects. This is a catalogue of galaxies and other phenomena, which has a very special place in astronomy.


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[Assistant] Do check them out. I'm Brady Harren, you've been listening to the Numberphile Podcast, and we'll be back again soon with another episode.


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[Assistant] One, two, three, four. One tiki taka, two tiki taka, three tiki taka, four tiki taka. One tiki taka, two tiki taka, three tiki taka, four tiki taka.


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[Assistant] And we should be playing it this week with all new PCs.


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[Assistant] Has there been any changes since? Cause it's been, obviously it's been out for a minute.


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[Assistant] Okay. I would think the island, I've heard about it for so long.


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[Assistant] I think that's the way to go, because people have talked about it for so long too. Alright. Majority, you got it.


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[Assistant] It's our own shit. Make our own fun and our own, you know, whatever it be, stupid competitions or whatever it is, you know, something.


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[Assistant] Having a flock and then, you know, especially if they're pretty easily tameable.


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[Assistant] I mean, to me that can easily fill so much of future episodes. Right, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Okay, I think, I thought we only used them in one map. But anyway, there are some things, I think, that are only in, obviously, with, uh, animals. It does happen, so hopefully, yeaah. And hopefully we can have, I mean, as, as a,


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I mean, that is exactly the kind of thing. As many ways as we can, you know, completely manipulate the world and go yeaah.


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[Assistant] So, so you see this as something that we're completely breaking the wall hard when it comes down to like mods and going, okay, let's spawn in 20, a hundred of these or 50 of these because it takes it, which to me,


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[Assistant] Doesn't have to not show HUD or not show our manipulation for it to, it could still be cinematic.


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[Assistant] He is the worst. It was fun taking that little trip with him. It was.


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[Assistant] At a Taylor Swift concert. That's the first thing I popped in my head. No, Taylor Swift is selling out $60,000.


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[Assistant] Depends on what stadium. Oh, you could fit fucking college stadiums a hundred thousand people.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was just trying to figure out. Let's not leave out any details while we have Anthony here. No, well we're literally supposed to be starting the week that this podcast comes out. Hopefully. We're supposed to be recording. Hopefully. That's the fingers crossed.


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[Assistant] So, and if that's the case, then that would mean if that's on schedule in just a few weeks, you might be seeing episode


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[Assistant] Not that. I'm not even gonna say what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna wait to do it. That's it. That's it. I'm gonna just fuck talking about this stuff. There will be blood. There will be blood.


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[Assistant] You know, and I'm sure it'd also be nice too, it'd be nice to be able to tell them where to sit and lay down, you know, when you like go to go to bed.


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[Assistant] Which is fun. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they, they nail the comedy. That's the thing. It's like they do it perfectly. So that makes it so much better.


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[Assistant] From there, I mean, couldn't you just imagine it just blowing up completely? Like, as a game developer, that's such a great way to do it, doing this like, kind of like weekly narrative, to the point where at the end of the season, quote-unquote the season,


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[Assistant] You know, you've got this big finale and you think that it's almost over until it has that cliffhanger for the next season.


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[Assistant] It's officially our idea. Yeaah. It's how our Eldar has to it. It's Eldar versus us. Yeaah. It is our game. We developed it. We've taken it.


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[Assistant] Oh, but, uh, but being the spoof that it is would have a lot of opportunity for comedy. And it's just Starship Troopers, we all know that. Yeaah, but the extreme of what it is, it's the obvious well done spoof, cause anyone could spoof shit, it's just, to me it's


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[Assistant] Yeah, a little bit. So you're setting all of these automa- all these players to automatically fight while you're amongst them.


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[Assistant] Tinkle tinkle. I started to try to play Poppy's Playtime 3. Okay. Cause I was like, oh, for the dumpster, you know, maybe I'll give that a shot. And then I pretty much gave up after like 15 minutes. I'm like, this is going to be too hard. It's like, I forget how.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I was playing, I think I got like, I have five episodes of that. Oh cool. Four of them are done, the fifth one's working on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, just like starting from nothing and just, you know, surviving.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is definitely the only thing that I would want to go in as of right now. I want there to be more though, that I would go in willingly to survive.


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[Assistant] Seven days. Sure. Like, I'm doing that and I'm enjoying it. Well hey, anytime you see us playing like in Shrouded or something, man, just hop in. Oh, on the dumpster?


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[Assistant] Yeah, for the dumpster, but in Shrouded I have to get familiar with and kind of fall in love with it. I want to fall in love with other games. I don't want it to just be seven days. Yeah. But it is just seven days for me right now, like the most in love with any game I've ever been.


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[Assistant] That would be probably great. We actually saw them showing off that game when we were in California. Yea, I remember that. Yea, we saw that guy speaking about it and it looked interesting. I think it's just difficult.


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[Assistant] I'm okay with that if they are fucking one, I bet you it's gotta be so much better, like less annoying.


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[Assistant] Like I liked the book for the first like 20%, I was like, this guy's fun!


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[Assistant] And sometimes within like one minute of gameplay, it would change like three different types of games that you're playing from different views.


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[Assistant] It was one where I was like, well, you would just, whatever it was, it's like, uh, you were a spider on a tree and you're kind of wrapping around all the limbs and the way you wrap around the camera kind of follows you around. I'm like, you just had an entire game doing that. It was just something appealing about just that.


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[Assistant] You know, you remember that scene? Yea, the way everything just twisted around, it was just like, just so, I don't know, impressive. It was its own game like that.


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[Assistant] Well, in the movie, when you watch it right now, there are different endings.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. You could do a whole season of something and it's each episode is a different ending.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to think of anything else I've been watching. Did you guys see the Oscars?


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[Assistant] I used to watch the Oscars. My brother ended up going like, he's like, this is the first year he ended up watching like, he's like all but two films that were nominated for best of so he can have some sort of an opinion. And I love him, he's a character, I swear we're gonna, I've been pushing him to do a podcast forever. Just get his bitch ass in here.


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[Assistant] But uh, he texted me, cause I guess at the end, you know, Al Pacino came out. And this wasn't, apparently it didn't make a lot of news, but the way my brother, you know,


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[Assistant] He kinda just, you know, came out, started to talk a little bit, and then just kind of announced... The winner. The winner. Instead of, I guess...


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[Assistant] Talking about the ones that are up for it. Now they do it differently these days where they actually throughout the night they focus on each film.


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[Assistant] They've done that before. It's been a thing for a while. So, but what was he supposed to do?


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[Assistant] They're out there. He's doing well. I'm not a big fan of his. Yeah, like I've turned off a movie with him in it cause I was like, he was kind of annoying me, but my God, if I was in a movie.


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[Assistant] No, I couldn't be, because everyone would shut me off. I'm like ten times more annoying. That's so not true. But no, but he, he does, I feel this similarly, but at the same time, I've also heard


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[Assistant] Things recently, I guess he was on, uh, Stern a couple of times, but one of his


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[Assistant] I still haven't seen the one that's considered good. You should. They should. You'd like it. And Peacemaker, my brother thinks that is, uh, if he's like, if you like John Cena, it's like, it's a really good show.


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[Assistant] And so at the same time, you would hope that if he's a bad guy, I want to see him dead.


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[Assistant] One of the characters just always asks, what's it like? What's it like?


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[Assistant] But I don't remember the whole other thing around it. I don't know that either. It's a good start, wasn't it? Yea, great start. What's it like? SNL.


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[Assistant] And to interrupt, it might've been a different story had COVID obviously not happened because we were bringing the numbers up.


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[Assistant] When that happened. We were going to do two shows.


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[Assistant] The beginning is where, where's the live show, and it's about time we got out of, granted, not far from Wilmington, North Carolina, but we're a couple hours away now to a better place, or easier place to fly into. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. That's a good start.


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[Assistant] So, if you've got an idea for a live show, uhm, and you have an idea of how many people you might like to have at the live show,


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[Assistant] Cause we do have the place in town that has 1,500, uh, capacity. Wilson Center. Yeah. And the way that it just, it was like meh when it came to like merchandise. Yeah, I mean we could probably do it.


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[Assistant] What's the appeal of your show versus another show that's like that? In our case, we don't know. We don't know why you guys are coming to our shows. It doesn't make any sense to us, but uh, you know, as far as a bodybuilding show, what could be a little bit different about your show?


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[Assistant] Or piggyback off of that event, you know, if maybe, who knows? I mean, not that they're all bodybuilders that are running. It doesn't really, but you know what I'm saying? Like there might be something you could like jump around that time when people are here for something else or somewhere for something else. Yeah. Myrtle Beach has, um,


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[Assistant] Like a magic convention. You know, I'm a magician, but I'm not. Uhm, I'm really not.


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[Assistant] Those bastards, they got me again. There you go, Naked Con, that's uh, there's one. Mmm.


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[Assistant] Your ideas in check and, you know, to bounce off of. We're very fortunate in that regard.


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[Assistant] Like when things come up for us, it's really nice to have a checks and balance system as far as opinions go.


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[Assistant] And what not. And I've always been thankful for that, uhm, as far as our team. And...


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[Assistant] Going at it yourself, I'm sure you could pull it off, but man, really nice to have someone, an ally.


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[Assistant] But on top of having an ally, like certain people are wired like her, she gets off on that shit.


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[Assistant] She loves it. She loves putting out fires, and that's perfect.


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[Assistant] You might not have that if you want to do your live show. That's okay. You might not need it. You might not.


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[Assistant] Yep. And while we're doing that, we might as well do a, uhm, ah, what was it called when people would have, uh, it was hot for a minute. Flash mobs. Yep. Might as well. Might as well. We got that many people there.


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[Assistant] Come up with, come up with a dance. It's outdated bullshit short. Let's go to Home Depot and do a flash mob. We could picket something. Yeah, we could picket something too. We're gonna be busy.


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[Assistant] For sure, yeaah. This is a good point, like, we all are guilty of having what we think is a great idea, whether it be a live show or whatever the case, and just like, you know, just never frickin' do it. It's like, just a reminder to do it.


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[Assistant] To learn the uke, even though it's only three strings on a uke, right?


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[Assistant] Which is silly, but it makes sense because of the travel hub there. Not a hub, but you know what I mean, easier.


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[Assistant] No, no. No books allowed. Or phone. I'd touch up a segway if you don't mind, because I think the David Blaine thing, or whatever, Mr. Beast, however I say. David Blaine's a magician, right? Yea, but like a lot of his uhm, his tricks over the last decade have been


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[Assistant] So it's like it's actual things you can accomplish as a human physically and then incorporating magic within it. He kind of went that route over the last decade or more maybe.


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[Assistant] But, uh, when I was down in Costa Rica and doing that thing, there was a lot of breath work, right? I never considered myself really good at holding my breath. Do you guys? No. Like, as far as a length? I'm pretty good. Pretty good? Yeah.


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[Assistant] There's that. So, one of these, uh, a class that we did, and we were like, there's always these breath exercises, and it's amazing how breath work on all different levels can help you.


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[Assistant] The first five minutes, and it was one of the last couple days I was there, it was this deep in and out breathing constantly for like five minutes, right? And at the end,


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[Assistant] Hold your breath. Everybody hold your breath. And I shoot you not. When we went, I was holding my breath. We went.


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[Assistant] It crossed the minute boundary and I didn't feel...


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like you're priming your little, it blew my mind when I saw the time, I was like, holy shit, I'm not even feeling the beginnings of my neighborhood life.


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[Assistant] Tip number three if you're doing a live show, do some, do some breathing. Calm yourself down, let's not get stressed about this. So you can hold your breath. You got this. What made you want to do that?


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[Assistant] What can we do back on the live show? I'm sure we, there's things after this we're gonna be like, well fuck, why didn't we talk about that?


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[Assistant] We were asked, uh, just the other day if we were nervous.


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[Assistant] We can kind of do anything in that environment and it's hard to be nervous about any of it.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And I think that nervous comes from just overthinking it.


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[Assistant] What's the, Pompano Beach? Yeah, alright. Dad, why are you going to Pompano Beach? It's a birdies event for that golf mall. Oh, okay. Comedy hub. There you go.


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[Assistant] Like, he's on the circuit. There's no way around being nervous for that. Like, adding the magic show, like, yea, that's what I got. I got nervous as fuck about that. The magic show. Yea, that makes sense, cause you were solo that. Because you can mess up.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, me too. You bringing up food, it reminds me of uhm, a pizza I tried last night.


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[Assistant] I'm curious what you think about it when you hear the ingredients, right? Okay. So it's at the place downtown, uhm, that I've said previously that I think is probably the best pizza in town as of the moment. Called Don Lucas.


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[Assistant] We couldn't help but try this. It's called the PBR.


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[Assistant] White garlic sauce, shredded mozzarella, dill pickles, red onion, buffalo sauce, and green onion.


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[Assistant] I really liked it. I liked it a lot. Like it all came together and worked. Whatever the little bit of buffalo sauce with that white, you know, um, garlic sauce.


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[Assistant] You don't like, you like to stay standard and boring? No, no, no. Why do you suck?


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[Assistant] I would love to try that one. Not once, not that pizza, not once have I seen hot dog on pizza.


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[Assistant] I know they put a lot of thought into how it was fully constructed.


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[Assistant] So for those of you that are upset right now that we are sold out on this one, just stay tuned. We've got another one coming down the pipe.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there you go. From the horse's mouth. Kangaroo's mouth. Kangaroo's mouth.


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[Assistant] He's trying to discredit you right now. I think it was just down to how I felt, you know, like I'm not speaking for anybody but me. I was just like, yeah, I'm good.


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[Assistant] It wasn't a matter of, it wasn't a matter of not liking it, like the timing of that and, um, Entrouted. It was like the amount of time we have to play anything, you know what I mean? And it was just like, if that was up against each other, I was like, I'm gonna dive into Entrouted a little bit more. And that's what you've done. A little bit, but nothing crazy at all. I need to do that too. Just a little bit.


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[Assistant] So once the plan is once grounded is done, then Anthony is gonna, yeah, we're gonna start playing Ark as a series and Anthony is gonna take that show. He's expressed interest in doing Ark, which works out. He edited a ton of Ark in the past.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think early game, and we've talked about this ad nauseum, but, uh, early game art is fun.


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[Assistant] Cause you're just alone trying to survive on a beach. It feels more like a survival game in that period. Yep.


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[Assistant] Once you have like 10 T-Rex's though, it's just like, okay, what now?


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[Assistant] See, I like building, I like finding a spot and going like, this would be a nice spot for a little cottage. I'm gonna build a little cottage here.


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[Assistant] Not a problem. Saltwater, no big deal. I'm drinking it.


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[Assistant] You gotta talk, you gotta, you know, explain what you're doing, what your thought process is. Like I made a Christmas town for Simon.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I saw that. Did you see it, Simon? Maybe. I made you and Poppy a Christmas town. Uh, on the dumpster. On the dumpster, there you go.


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[Assistant] I was just showing him the raw footage. You just showed the clip, yeaah. I showed you the raw footage of, uh, you and Poppy in a construction yard that wasn't finished yet. That was it.


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[Assistant] Probably not. Oh, I don't know. But I mean, I'm sure you could search for sandwich game and find something.


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[Assistant] It's like, didn't we play, we played Overcooked back in the day. Remember that game? I do. Yeah, it was like, yeah, we're all trying to work in a kitchen together.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you were in a kitchen and it was like, yeah, someone's in charge of cooking, someone's in charge of plating, someone's in charge of delivery. Oh, we're working together. Yeah, it's like everyone's trying to work together to, uh, just get these plates made and out to customers as quick as you can.


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[Assistant] We did like a first, you know, it was one of those things where they played the first few levels.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's so much stuff out there. Especially on Steam. So many little indie titles. That you would never see. So much crap. A lot of crap. A lot of shovelware. Just a lot of garbage.


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[Assistant] Well it's kinda, you know, I love when you see a game where on Steam you look at the screenshot and go, ugh, this looks awful.


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[Assistant] And then, like, Vampire Survivors. Right. As a game, I looked at it, I was like, oh, that looks terrible. Mhm. Then you play it, and you're like, oh my god, this is fucking, this is amazing. That does look fun, too. Yeah, I enjoyed it.


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[Assistant] I got the, uh, the Among Us DLC for that, and it's pretty good.


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[Assistant] Oh, that'd be great. That'd be a great team up. I mean, I'm surprised they teamed up with Amongus. That was a great, yeah. Yeah, let's Vampire Survivor Amongus. Let's go. Let's do it. There you go. Nah, those guys got a bright future. Game's cheap as shit. It's fun. Yeah, more DLC, more powers, more crazy stuff. Go for it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're talking about vampire survivors. If we were to do a vampire survivors sandwich.


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[Assistant] Yep. It all started when I was young. Two kids running around New York eating everybody's damn pickles.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was just trying. He's like, I can't say fuck Joe Biden on network TV. They're saying, uh, let's go Brandon. Well.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. No, it's, it's still funny. Just, the whole like, the cover-up made it worse. It's one of those situations. It's like, what are they saying, Todd? It's like, I can't repeat that, Margaret. That's what you should have said.


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[Assistant] Yeah, some fucking ball game and some reporter, you know, the crowd was yelling fuck Joe Biden and some reporter was like, they're saying let's go Brandon.


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[Assistant] Only for a minute. Yeah. So chants of Fuck Joe Biden began during a sporting event in 2021, uh, during a televised interview at the Sparks 300 or with the Sparks 300 race winner, Brandon Brown at Talladega. NBC sports reporter, somebody incorrectly described the chant in the background as let's go Brandon instead of fuck Joe Biden.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I remember when I came out it was funny cause yeaah, you clearly hear what's being said in the background. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Possibly he didn't hear what his crowd was saying. It's possible.


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[Assistant] But it seemed like a cover-up. It might have been. It seemed like, uh, I can't say that, so I'm just gonna say, they're saying, let's go Brandon, uh, sure.


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[Assistant] Exactly. I don't want to get an FCC file. Those are expensive.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they can a little bit. I mean, we're on, you know, with YouTube, we have some like FCC regulations we gotta follow. Like if we have a paid sponsorship in a video, we were supposed to disclose that.


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[Assistant] Here in North Carolina, you gotta show your ID to watch porn now. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] What do you mean? Right? You get a point of it and it's like, well, your North Carolina lawmakers, woo, they just passed some bullshit.


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[Assistant] I guess. Yeah. They have to verify your age. So I guess in order to make us safer, they want us to submit our IDs to the porn companies. Right. Thanks guys. Seems freaking insane, doesn't it? But yeah.


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[Assistant] That's the case. I feel so much safer now. Yeaah. Nah, just get a VPN and get around that shit so easy. That's the thing, it's like yeaah, you get a VPN and you're like whoop, kaplunk.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, it's crazy to me, it's like yeaah, it's, I dunno. Seems like you're putting a bandaid on a, on, you know, a fucking limb being chopped off.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but that's, that's what our lawmakers in North Carolina decided.


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[Assistant] Well, we have a gas tax in North Carolina. And it's high. Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, for that reason. We don't want toll roads. Charge us out the ass for gas. That's right.


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[Assistant] Get rid of your damn toll roads. Your damn northerners. Stupid northerners. Fucking yankees. Damn yankees with your toll roads. God damn northerners. Wanting to pump my fucking gas.


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[Assistant] Ooh, I'll pump your gas for you. No, fuck off, I can pump my own gas. That's only one state. That's Jersey. Fuck you.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. God had a boring new year this year. But like, on purpose, which was nice.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, being under the weather kinda put a little damper on things too. It was just like, nah, I'm not going anywhere, not doing nothing.


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[Assistant] Last time, when I went and got my modem and router switched out at the Spectrum store, got in there and they sat down, made the appointment and everything, and then they were like, alright, everybody has to get up and get out of the building. They're like, why? It's like, okay, this is an active shooter drill. And I'm like, a drill? During a drill? We go outside?


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[Assistant] They're like, well, no, if it's real, you guys would all have to go into the bathroom, but we don't want you guys all to go in the bathroom, so if you're ready, just get out. So make yourself seen. Yeah. To the active shooter. Exactly. Perfect. So we all had to stand outside of the Spectrum store for 15 minutes while they did an active shooter drill. That makes all the sense. It did. It was great. Yeah. It was weird. It's like, wait, they were doing this?


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[Assistant] And go outside. We're all active. Go outside and get active. Start shooting.


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[Assistant] Like, doesn't even look open. Yeah, that place is usually hoppin'. Yeah. So, that's it.


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[Assistant] We're doing two episodes. I'm so excited about that. We've been wanting to play it for a couple of weeks now. Yeah. Oh man. Yup. Alright. Everybody's palms start sweating. Yup. Alright, cheers y'all. See you guys.


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[Assistant] Yeah, man, we're like the trillionaires.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I'd have to, like seven days is the only reason why I grasp any of it is because I enjoy it.


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[Assistant] I can't even think about a workbench because I'm just trying to get food. It's living minute to minute. Food's a big problem.


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[Assistant] And I'm trying, I really am, I need to practice like Neve said, like I need to feel comfortable and look at recipes. You did practice. I made my first cornbread, no, but I need to- You made a video in the dumpster, it was like a-


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[Assistant] Hour long, wasn't it? Yeah, no, and I've played hours and hours of practice, but that's more like, alright, just trying to survive and maybe I'm gonna find food, but in this series, I'm not finding food, and it's, uh, it's not giving me as much nutrition, I guess, in this version, cause, I dunno.


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[Assistant] I don't need to have 50 jars, I'm happy with just one. That's a good compromise there.


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[Assistant] And Rocket Money has just saved me money again on yet another monthly bill that I was being overcharged for by 15 bucks a month. And it was going on for the past three months just because I made a change to my account. And they made a stupid mistake.


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[Assistant] But hey listen, because I noticed it soon, I got refunded no problem.


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[Assistant] And that could have went on for another year if it wasn't for rocket money. They make it so much easier for me to stay on top of my bills. It's great. So please do yourself a favor and stop throwing away your money.


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[Assistant] Okay. All that shit, and, and I've only found water in maybe two out of eighty toilets that I've searched. All right, gotcha. All fucking paper like you. A lot of paper, a lot of paper in those toilets. Tons of paper.


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[Assistant] I'm still convinced if I cut off Niebz's finger, I wanna cut off your finger Niebz.


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[Assistant] And flush it down the toilet and wait five years and I tell you I believe your finger would be mush like fucking anything hard pass right through to just


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[Assistant] I think your flesh would still melt away, and I think after five-


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[Assistant] That's fine. We'll dive into it. She's done research. Okay. I know, I know, but I, but I'm curious about, without saying anything, I would lean more towards saying something, even though we're not going to do it now. We were going to talk about that. I would think we were bringing up beforehand as advertising for it and you, your opinion, Nibs, cause they say nah. No, I say, yeah. Oh, you say show. That's why I brought it up.


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[Assistant] Tell me what happened. Somebody really walked in, was I in the bathroom? Oh yea, no, no. Some pizza guy, pizza guy walked in. Literally walked in the door. Yea. Didn't even knock. Nope. Nope.


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[Assistant] It was Domino's, yea, I'll say that. Domino's, one of some of the worst, unless it's a pan. They have a decent pan. For fast food shit. Domino's, ugh. For fast food shit, their pan is... Cardboard. It's damn cardboard.


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[Assistant] You ever had their, their pan pizza? Their pan cardboard? I like that.


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[Assistant] They're pan pizza. They're pan pizza. It's not a card. They're regular crust. It's chewy. It's cardboard. Yea, the pan is chewy. The pan is actually chewy and bready and like it's surprisingly good for fast food.


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[Assistant] I don't like raw mushrooms that say they're cooked in the-


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[Assistant] Don't they get cooked when they're getting baked? I say that they don't cook just like onions, same way. I want them sauteed, then put on the pizza, and then cook it even more. Alright. That's how I like my shit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well that's not after, they cook it with it, but to me that's not enough time to actually cook through. I like my veggies cooked more. It tastes like a raw veggie. Yeah.


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[Assistant] All right. Well, you know what? Hey, I think that we've got a new, uh, new topic. It's Adora likes some crunch in his green pet.


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[Assistant] I love them, I think they're delicious. They're good on their own too, but I prefer hummus. I got you, hummus helps a lot.


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[Assistant] Damage? Dude, yes, absolutely. Oh, you know what I had? Sorry, go ahead.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause I'm gonna talk about food cause, uh, you know how he's talked about shepherd's pie over at IGA. Is that what it's called? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Finally went and got it.


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[Assistant] And you hated it. I'll tell ya, it, well, the little bit of a thing where I looked at it, I said, oh, that looks pretty good. And then she started scooping it in and I'm like, oh, that looks like...


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[Assistant] That's just, that just, well that looks dry, it doesn't look whatever, but man, it was really. And what is this again? What was this? Shepherd pie. Shepherd pie. At a grocery store that's as fucking country as you get.


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[Assistant] Yeah, topped with mashed potatoes. And whenever I get that stuff, usually I end up real quickly just kind of mixing it all in.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, of course. Yea. And just kinda just do it like that. And it was, it was fantastic. Happy times? I will be, I will be back there for sure. It was salty, wasn't it?


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[Assistant] Uh, you know what? Not particularly, but it probably did have a shit ton of songs.


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[Assistant] I said, wow, you're taking that case off, you better be careful, wouldn't it be funny if you dropped that phone and it broke?


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[Assistant] No, I saw it. Anthony got cut off and then I'm not even in it at all. I'm sorry. I think I just revealed that story.


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[Assistant] She got back before the food came. And I tell ya, that amount of time, cause I got there late, and I got there late cause I'm like, I don't wanna have anyone wait for me or whatever, this or that.


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[Assistant] You guys ordered your food and it waited at least, it took a minute, they were busy, at least 45 minutes to an hour before you got anything.


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[Assistant] What is going on? I don't know man, my, uh, my, my daughter, she's a, she's a waitress and she's damn good. I've seen her work.


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[Assistant] On those phones, and I have a beveled edge on my phone too. And I'm like, you know, the reason why...


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[Assistant] It broke because it probably hit, it obviously hit the edge because when you, when you land flat on the ground and I took my phone and I flung it like a fucking frisbee.


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[Assistant] So I spin my phone, for some reason, like I've, I don't know why I've done this fifty times, a hundred times before. I've no idea, because I like to make points. Right. Made a real good point. I'm like, ah, so if it falls like that because it laid flat, it'll be fine. And then I go and I pick up my phone and I go, there's a crack in mine. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And I said, that's, that's weird cause I've done this so many times with that case knowing this is his party trick. It's a, exactly. I like to show off to people. So I'm like, what?


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no, it's not bad, but I couldn't believe it. I'm like, this is so stupid. So he throws it again. So then that's what I did. For some reason.


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[Assistant] Was because I realized after the phone was cracked the first time that I'm replacing this phone. I can't believe I just cracked this phone.


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[Assistant] Yeah, with the same case on it, and by the way, like the same similar case where it has the beveled edge, now I'm paranoid.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's fling it. And I'm getting the out of box which is fully encased the whole thing because I refuse now for this ever to break again. I'm never doing the party trick. And this is, I've learned my lesson. It's only took me this long.


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[Assistant] Well, I normally throw on something that's perfectly flat, but if there's, if there is even so much as a sixteenth of an inch bump. Right.


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[Assistant] Yeah. But learning new things, it makes me realize, like even just a little thing, like I got the Gix, I got the Pixel Pro, the same phone that your, that your wife had that she broke.


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[Assistant] And just switching over, it's really annoying, like, cause now,


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[Assistant] I've run into things all the time on my phone that you just go like, I don't even know how to like fucking...


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[Assistant] Backswipe, like it took me 10 minutes to figure out how to, you know, where normally there's a little back arrow button that I've used for Samsung for the last decade. And you go, no, for the Google, you got to swipe over in the lower third quarter on the right side and swipe and little arrow comes out. All right. So yeah, it's just a different UI. There's a there and there's a hundred things.


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[Assistant] For the old guy like me, in the last two days, I've like pulled over on the side of the road like, why the fuck can I do this? So point being, it's frustrating to learn a new phone.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah. I have it written down on a piece of paper, I swear. I just have a hard time locating that paper sometimes.


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[Assistant] Dude, I don't fucking, I didn't ask for it. I didn't. Trust me. Like if there was a button I could push to be like, have this dog 80% less attached to me, I would fucking hit that button in a second.


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[Assistant] Oh no. Something's going on with Bubba. Don't tell us that. I don't know, yeaah, sorry, but like I don't know what's going on, but for some reason Bubba's been chasing things for like five days that aren't there.


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[Assistant] So, it's kind of like a whole, she's got a vet, vet thing tomorrow, see what's going on. But like, you know, when you read, search a little bit in the internet, neurological issues can be, you know, whatever. So hopefully it's fucking.


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[Assistant] Hopefully she's just sheeing shit and it's something with her eyes. Yeah. Okay? Be nice if it's not that, but you know, normally she's like biting for flies and she's doing that and there's no fucking flies.


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[Assistant] You could put a wire mesh in front of the railing. Or a piece of plexiglass or something. Yeah, exactly. Well, we're gonna figure it out. Listen, I'll help. We're gonna figure this out. Yeah. Yeah, you figure it out. Yeah. But if you need a man...


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[Assistant] If you end up ne- I know that you're a man sometimes, but like I'm a man all the time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's sort of a woman jumping on the back of your horse. It's like your wife, you found her sleeping with a guy and a girl. You know, they're just having a good old time and they won't let you join in.


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[Assistant] It is. You know, speaking of fun, for fun, I went and I talked to a local, I happened to be looking to get something on my phone screen. I was going to have them put this thing on and I'm like, oh, there's a music place. So I've been wanting to do drum lessons forever. I've been talking about it.


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[Assistant] Anyway, I'm gonna be, uh, taking drum lessons. Well, well, well. Because I, I don't care. And I'm like, hey listen, you know, there's a lot of different, uh, teachers there and then I can go in there and stick with one guy or stick with a whole bunch of whatever, but I want to go in there and learn specific songs too. I just want to go in there and I want to learn some fundamentals. On a drum kit. On a kit.


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[Assistant] Alright. Are you going to buy a drum kit? I'm not going to buy a drum kit until I actually start to practice and go to lessons because I have, I was going to buy an electric kit 10 times and I kept on going like, no, every time I always realized I'm like, why are you going to do it?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I could start the lessons and then I could take even more lessons and then see what I'm into and then I could take a recommendation on what he would say that, you know, I could get. Okay, so maybe you can like take the lesson.


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[Assistant] No, no, I would buy it somewhere else, cause I would get the best deal possible. Yeah, alright, good. Or look at what's comparable to it, and then go, okay, no, actually, I'm going here.


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[Assistant] So uh, yes, I've already attempted to play, and I could, there's a lot of basic songs that I can play that are super basic, that I can.


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[Assistant] But I don't, I can't, I can't play them great and I'm not super consistent at it, but if I practice I would be and then there are more difficult songs that I know I could play that I could half-ass play.


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[Assistant] Okay. I mean if I'm going, if I'm, if I know this is- It's the resistance of the drums that is what. Oh I know, but I, well I've practiced there too. All I'm saying is at least I have the- I've never had a-


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[Assistant] There you go. But I'm saying at least I have, you know, you know people who don't have any rhythm.


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[Assistant] And going, alright, what do I hit here? I kinda know. So I go, okay, there's my stage one out of 50 stages.


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[Assistant] Which, which we could probably get back due to someone wanting to give us back, like give it to us completely.


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[Assistant] I mean like it was, they, they, it was offered to us from the people who had it and that would be nice. Yeah, I'm still working on it.


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[Assistant] There's still some red tape. But that's good, it's good, I mean like, the fact that you know that there's red tape, it's all, you're on it. Yeah, it would be cool to own that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and Antiques Roadshow is fantastic as well, but it's actually true, there's no scripting of any of that shit. It's just, there it is. But, uh, see now I already...


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, uh, one that I, I just liked watching the, the, the, seeing somebody that had 12 hours and they did like a complete renovation of a house. That was, uh, I watched this thing and the show was schlocky and with whatever it was,


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[Assistant] I was like, I still had to watch it. I know what this house looks like right now and I believe that it's seven o'clock in the morning and it's seven o'clock at night. This has got a brand new kitchen in there. They've remodeled everything, added a little room, a new roof, the whole exterior looks different. They've got a crew of 60 people and I go, okay.


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[Assistant] We're not on strike. We aren't. Not yet. Thinking about it. If they came to us and said, hey, listen, there's a, there's a strike's gonna go on for another 12 months and we're starved and we want to give you guys $10 million to put out a show. You're crossing the picket line.


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[Assistant] I mean, it could be mediocre and they could still want to hide that too, right? I guess. Yeah, of course, yeah. We don't want to show our numbers.


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[Assistant] It's, you have to win and you have to work together in a group in order to win.


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[Assistant] I don't think there's that, but maybe you could check out Outlast. Outlast. I'm gonna look for it. I'll take a peek. I saw some of the trailer and it seemed like, oh okay.


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[Assistant] Yep, I'm finished, I can't talk about anything. Whatcha dare? Not gonna.


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[Assistant] No, that cat's not sick anymore, it's dead. Ah. Meow. Have a good day. Yeah, thanks for listening.


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[Assistant] I mean, when I, when I try to do the, I've, I've actually worked on it for a couple of weeks now. It's like, nah, cause usually I'm, I'm just voice texting. Yeah, but we're doing a podcast. Yeah, we're here. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And then it was Daniel, right, that jumped in Discord with his phone? Yes. So we were able to go live to the pre-pre live show party. Pre-pre party. And yea, get a look at everybody in there hanging out. It was awesome.


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[Assistant] And, uh, let's talk about sawmill for a minute, cause, uh, yeaah, let's get that out. A lot of you know we eat at sawmill pretty often. It's a little country diner near here. And, uh,


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[Assistant] Last time we did a show, they were like, did y'all do something last week? And there were people coming in all weekend long talking about Neve's gaming. And they kind of know who we were because we kind of-


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[Assistant] So yeaah, so then Aztec, you were talking to them about setting up something.


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[Assistant] That was great. Now, we had specials. They had a special sandwich board for us. Sandwich sign. Uhm, in their restaurant with Neve's Gaming specials. Yep. With items like what?


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[Assistant] Is that like flapjacks? Maybe. Oh that makes sense. That's pancakes, right?


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[Assistant] But that smash burger is good. And that meatloaf is good.


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[Assistant] It was still, like, it was cooler in the, uh, theater than outside. Big time. Yes. It could, the fact that it could have been comfortable, even more comfortable than Great God. Yeah, man.


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[Assistant] And folks, if you have not seen Dralis' uh, magic extravaganza. Oh my god.


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[Assistant] I assume everyone knows we were wearing like these baseball jerseys. Yea, we had like a baseball theme. Which was fun. All with our color. Yup. And, uh, we had a jersey for Thick 44 that was, you know, hanging up in the bar and just a part of it all. And then, yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, we did a toast to Thicc mid-show. Yeah. And then, uh, at one point we took pictures and then, uh, Thicc's family was there. Yeah. So one of his daughters came, came up and put on the jersey and it was just. Adorable.


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[Assistant] I didn't feel that way. I was enjoying everyone's company.


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[Assistant] Well, here's what happened. I had the idea, oh, maybe I should...


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, there was, uh, there was one trick that I have no idea. Perfect. And I don't want to know.


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[Assistant] Didn't you win the, oh, you didn't win the speedrunners? I think I won shit. You were doing great though, you were up, you were up there. Always. Yea, no, he was up there. Always. I, I pooped a bed on speedrunners. And it wasn't even like really


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[Assistant] Like bad mistakes. Yeah. It was like just turning those corners. I would just like hit a corner right as the screen was coming in. Oh yeah. But you still feel like, you feel like you're around everybody's tail, but that, that corner gets you in like, ah man.


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[Assistant] There were two moments in the show where Anthony pulled up Winner prematurely. And that was one of them. That's right. I think it was Dora. He thought, was it Dora? Or no. I don't know. It wasn't you.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then there was a moment where Dralis looked like he killed me and, uh,


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[Assistant] But part of the show is you don't, you wanna surprise people, cause we change the games every time a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we gave out a ton of prizes at our show. We did. Threw a bunch. Every time, if you haven't been or don't know how it works, yeah. The theater's kind of cut in half.


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[Assistant] So, this community is insanely amazing. It's unreal. Ironclad, they were supposed to close at midnight, weren't they? Yes. And they didn't. Nope. Cause they loved us so much. They should have known better.


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[Assistant] Basically. It was getting close to midnight and there were still people like, you know, waiting to hang out and get pictures and do whatever. And then Aztec is like, they said it's cool. This crowd is awesome and they're, they're like, let's keep doing it. Cool.


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[Assistant] You know milk just, milk just puts on a commercial sometimes. They're like, hey, I'm milk. Yeah, dairy. Everybody drink milk. Dairy community. Yep. Well yesterday they were claiming they hydrate better than water. That's bold, isn't it? That is bold. Yeah. Whiskey told me that. I guess they did the research though. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Clearly. Nah, I got you. She grew up with Slip Slop Slap. I did. How's the song go?


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[Assistant] I went to the beach Monday as well. I didn't go with y'all. Yeaah. Because you were going earlier than I wanted to go and you were going to the beach. I didn't want to go. A different beach. Yeaah. I wanted to go to Carolina Beach. Yeaah, makes sense for you. Yeaah, the water was so calm. Yeaah. Usually, like if you get in the water.


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[Assistant] You look at where your towel is and then within a few minutes you're like 200 yards away from that. You've just been kind of drifting one way up or down the beach.


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[Assistant] I have heard many times from people in our community who don't travel anywhere. Even leading back to our Myrtle Beach trip.


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[Assistant] You know, people listen to our podcast and go, you know what? I'm going to go this thing. And I love it cause it's, it gets them out of their comfort zone. Well, even like Aztec, you, you never flew. Nope. You flew, you flew because of us, right? I did. What was the reason?


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[Assistant] Oh look it, Aztec is playing Pal World, I just saw pop up.


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[Assistant] How about, uhm, in reinforced string? That's a different one.


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[Assistant] Heard the parachute's good to have too, huh? Parachute? Yep.


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[Assistant] If they were going for the knockoff of Pokemon, kind of like blatantly. So, that lends to the cartoon.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we'll see. So we're going to try this as we record this now. We're going to try this tomorrow, but not as you hear this, y'all.


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[Assistant] And we will have played it when you hear this. How about that?


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[Assistant] That sounds like a self convincing. It is.


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[Assistant] I just have to hurt that it's very deep, it goes a lot deeper than anyone expected.


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[Assistant] Okay, and I had one more question before Simon rudely interrupts again. Uhm, the, the map, is it always the same?


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[Assistant] You know, if everyone says cool with that, yeaah, I'm cool with that.