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[Assistant] And uhm, you go give him his wish. I mean, there are other creatures as well that we should probably mention, like, uh, shambles, which is more like a, you can imagine as a daedra, I guess, kind of. It's like a bunch of bone lashed together with


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[Assistant] Ah, but with cloth. They kinda look- They trigger a frost damage effect and you can summon them. Uhm.


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[Assistant] The shambles, they're like an undead construct. They're basically like a grenade to be honest, because when they die they do area frost damage, so I remember summoning them all the time, knowing they'd get killed, but I didn't care, because they would run in or around a corner even.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't, I would put them more in the category of like bone creatures, like a bone colossus from Elder Scrolls Online or something like that. For me a flesh based creature needs to be literally made of flesh, so the flesh atronachs, potentially skinned hounds, uhm, things like that.


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[Assistant] Oh, absolutely. I did a big investigation into it when I, I recommend everyone check out the secret mysteries of flesh magic. Um, which was a video I made basically if you go and look, it's not that easy to see. I had to use like the toggle free cam.


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[Assistant] But they actually do have a kind of stitched up appearance, uhm, and they have nails hammered in all over their body. So they quite literally do seem to be...


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[Assistant] Like that's confirmed, she'll do different things like take out blood of something and put it in something else and see what happens.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean she's uhm, if I just uhm, clarify for everyone, she was pulled out from Tamriel, she was part of the Mages Guild.


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[Assistant] And she basically discovered what she calls the sixth element, which is flesh magic. And obviously she had a bunch of similar experiments to those that she conducts in the Shivering Isles DLC, which are all dark and involve lots of pain and.


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[Assistant] And so he pulled her in and they seem to have a kind of a relationship-ish thing going on or at least she has some unreturned affection towards him that's extreme.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean it is different but similar themed, I can imagine, like she wasn't the first one to deal with flesh magic, like uhm, Man of Marko, so this is the thing, in Oblivion they're all like, oh, flesh magic, it's so unique.


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[Assistant] And then they put it in Elder Scrolls Online and they're like, actually Man of Marko's been doing it before, but the difference is that they are.


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[Assistant] They're not as unique looking. They look much more, and they are, there's the lab. They're like stitched together blobs of flesh. They don't have any of these special markings that, um, RealMina has carved into them.


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[Assistant] They don't, uhm, have anything to do with void essence or any of these special substances that you see around the place, uhm, where real mean is doing her work. There's no rituals with all these complex ingredients like with the gatekeeper. You actually make your own flesh atronach.


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[Assistant] And kind of like a projection or ghost of Abnar Farn.


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[Assistant] Uhm, who was a powerful battle mage says to you like, oh, child of five could do it. Like, and then you just go over to this necromancy book. They use necromancy magic as well, which is...


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[Assistant] Kind of different. Like you can assume they're related but it's a bit different and you go like woooo over a ritual book and you spawn this like small flesh atronach to help you get through a certain door that's got a barrier on it but


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[Assistant] I, I see it as different and check out my video to see why that is. Something to do with imbuing it with a Daedra's soul versus mortal soul or minor Daedric essence as they say in a book I'm definitely not a fan of.


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[Assistant] With like the base stats of Daedric, so very powerful stuff. And then of course you've got, um, Nerve Shatter, the weapon that the Duchess of Dementia wields, which is part amber, part madness ore.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure what the difference is in the Elder Scrolls specifically between a soul and a spirit.


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[Assistant] But I know the exact quote is like, the mysterious aura said to have the spirits of ancient souls trapped inside of it. I've always considered them to be synonymous, but yeah, like kind of the same, right?


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[Assistant] I guess we should also take a look at the gatekeeper, just quickly, may as well.


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[Assistant] Because he is a flesh magic creation, but he involves a bunch of ingredients that are only found in this garden of flesh and bones that Realmina has toiled so hard in. There's like osseous marrow, dermis membrane.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's a bunch of stuff, right? And again, watch my video to see that.


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[Assistant] But it is interesting to hear her kind of talk about how she toiled in this, this garden and she calls the gatekeeper.


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[Assistant] What is it? It's something like the wisdom of Sheregorath's consummation with


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[Assistant] Something about her, hold on, I'll get you the exact quote.


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[Assistant] The gatekeeper is my child, the consummation of shagrath's wisdom in the womb of my genius. It was a painful and a bloody birth.


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[Assistant] Well worth it. And about her, Shea Gorath says how she's a genius and a lunatic and his kind of person. Uhm, but he says that, uhm, he calls her a little minx. He's like, she'd do anything for me, that little minx. Send Romina my love, that'll get her going.


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[Assistant] And Haskell tells you that her affections cause him a lot of hassle.


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[Assistant] Or kill, or kill the gatekeeper, which you can do, you can do it, it's hard. Uh, the game wants you to, uhm, do it the proper way, which is to gather relmena's tears, which are actually it's weakness of a handkerchief.


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[Assistant] So I guess we could also talk a bit about the, cause we know the Shivering Isles has like its own history and that's what makes it cool. Part of its lore is it also has this powerful prophet, who was known as Arden Soll.


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[Assistant] And obviously what's interesting about Art and Soul is that the two different, uhm, I wouldn't call them the, they're not main groups, but there's these two factions in the Shivering Isle. You've got Heretics, you've got Zealots. Heretics are on the side of Mania. Zealots are on the side of, uhm, Dementia.


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[Assistant] And they're both, uh, basically mage groups who have their own beliefs and, um, secrets and rituals even like with the, um.


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[Assistant] The zealots, they have this special power of summoning a flesh atronach, which is something they teach you.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but when you join, if you fail the process of joining, I'm pretty sure they kill you. So make sure you nail the job interview, because otherwise you'll be dead. But anyway, Ardyn's soul.


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[Assistant] Like a Shezarin for Sheogorath, versus Sheogorath needing to be overthrown, that he's simply just a man. Um, that's what the heretics believe.


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[Assistant] But they kind of have two different, you could call them religions, uhm, based on his life and his death. And so in the city, in the main city, you've got, uhm, the Sekelem, right? And there's a high priest in there that preaches. So the different religious beliefs and their own sides of the story.


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[Assistant] So the Manics, for example, they believe he was like a writer and an artist and he loved overindulgence and lavishness and was really abstract. Basically everything that personifies Mania, the Manic side is like, yeah, he was like us. And the Demented side, that's what it's called, view him as like this


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[Assistant] Uhm, disgusting, dark, traitorous kind of, uhm, deceptive person.


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[Assistant] Who, you know, was darker in nature. Uhm, to them, an all violent kind of person is a good thing. You know, like paranoia is not a bad thing to those on the dementia side of things. So, a murderous person can be a good person in their view of the world.


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[Assistant] Um, so yeaah, essentially they're just trying to both be like they're, well, not god, but they're,


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[Assistant] The person that making a deity. What is- Is he a god if you believe in something as a god? Doesn't it become a god?


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[Assistant] So, in Manic tradition, Ardenseal had this party at the Sekelem that became a massive night of indulgence. Greenmoat, wine, dancing, poetry, and all pleasures of the flesh that the Manic's love was folded into one night. At the climax of the party, so he had 213 followers, uhm, according to them.


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[Assistant] And they all died. They all died with the green mote, and he died last.


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[Assistant] He was so paranoid and suspicious that all of those followers of his were actually like traitors. So he's like, all my followers are traitors and he wanted to know their true feelings. So he cut out all of their hearts.


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[Assistant] Which is pretty, pretty hardcore. And uhm, he was, the reason he did that was because he discovered uhm,


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[Assistant] How do you say it again? Basically, you know, when you cut out people's organs, they have it in all kinds of like movies and novels with witches. They'll like look at intestines and. Oh, divining like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, I think it's called like visceromancy or something, at least in the older scrolls. Let me see.


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[Assistant] That's kind of funny. Anyway, so, so the tradition they have in dementia is you, um,


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[Assistant] So, is murder, I believe. So the demented succession customarily involves murder of the predecessor.


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[Assistant] As murder and betrayal are respected themes in dementia. And then, like the heart that he cut out, instead of taking the blood, because in mania, the heart explodes, it's all kind of gross. In dementia, you take the actual physical organ to the altar in the cecalum, uhm, to become the new, uh, duke or duchess of dementia.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you're gonna be, you're gonna be insane no matter what. But yeah, definitely I would rather be on that side of things. Uhm, this is a random thing, but I've just realized there's a creature we've missed, and it's easy to get it confused with the, uhm, elytra, but that's the gnar.


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[Assistant] So the Gnarl are like a moving tree and these are the ones that you can find with Amber on their body. They look pretty cool.


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[Assistant] Uhm, they're in both realms. That's the thing you'll find a lot of the things are in both, not realms, both sides of the Shivering Isles, but they just differ in appearance. They've got their own different paint jobs, basically, for the different vibes.


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[Assistant] Actually on that, you know the, um, the conspiracies, uh, theories podcast we did with all the crazy stuff. There's one far down the list that's like, um, Haskell is the true mad god of the shivering


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[Assistant] I do like that uhm, HalfSchool is quite smart as well. I think he talks about the Mazken as a kind of like, uhm, highly respected race.


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[Assistant] What else is there to talk? I feel like pretty much- I mean, there's the- I'll tell you what, if you hit Shay Agorath in the Shivering Isles, let me tell you about the jail system. There's three places you go for punishment, okay?


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[Assistant] It depends which side of Shivering Isles you're in, but the third one is if you attack Shere Gorath, he casts a spell on you, sends you into the sky high above the map, so you freefall down into, I think it's called Punishment Point, and you just die, even with god mode.


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[Assistant] Your character still dies when you hit the ground. There's nothing you can do. Uhm, but apart from that, you've got these two different jail systems. So you can pay off your, uhm, your bounty, I believe. But you can also just be sent to jail, right?


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[Assistant] And when you get sent to jail, unlike most jails, you can actually press a button to open the door out to leave. But the difference is, it's filled with traps and creatures that are gonna kill you.


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[Assistant] Um, so there's, and it doesn't differ depending on your punishment. So you can go in and murder a whole town or you can just steal a cheese wedge. You get the same jail sentence in terms of you escaping.


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[Assistant] They also give you a container with some food and weapons. Uhm, so you have a fighting chance because they still do confiscate your gear.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I can't tell you that. But I can tell you in Icon, some of those rooms are filled with so many traps, they look really cool.


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[Assistant] That's very true. That's very true. They're not getting much money, I don't think, off their jail system. It's not working too well.


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[Assistant] If you want to know more, definitely check out my video, uhm, 5 things you may not know about the Shivering Isles. It's pretty thorough with a lot of the stuff we've talked about. And also that flesh magic video, I would highly recommend.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah, we've got a whole video on Haskell as well. And if you want to support what we do here at Fudge Muppet, I'm wearing this Fudge Muppet t-shirt. You can go buy one on Teespring.


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[Assistant] I think we do. Don't we know where Old South is?


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[Assistant] So how do you spell that? Oh, no, it's just a small fiefdom. Yeah.


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[Assistant] What is up ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Elder Scrolls Podcast. I'm Scott here with Michael and Drew as always and today we are discussing the Daedric Prince Clavicus Vile. Which one of you guys would like to take it away, start us off?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'd say so, so they can be manipulated.


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[Assistant] It's a really cool quote that really sums him up nicely about how, explains why he's such a social creature and also explains his other component, Barbas.


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[Assistant] The life of a prince is one of near total isolation. Some princes like Homeus Mora and Nocturnal appear to revel in this solitude, but everything we know of Clavicus Vile indicates that he is a profoundly social being.


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[Assistant] His love of bartering, his willingness to bestow wishes upon those that engage with him, his bewitching mask. Each of these things point to a being that thrives on interaction, conversation, and play. A being so inclined would likely go mad without some companion to speak to, argue with, and complain about.


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[Assistant] One might even view it as a marriage of sorts, albeit an inverted one. Rather than two becoming one, as in the Pledge of Mara, one has become two, a paradoxical reversal of the aedric ritual.


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[Assistant] So like you were saying there too, like the playfulness of kind of what you're getting, he's not.


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[Assistant] It's not necessarily even, um, you know, malicious, but it, it is in reality, but he's just playing and he likes to talk and converse and he likes the trickery with words with the, you know, playing with words so that he can, you know, alter the deal.


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[Assistant] Well, like, one of the, like, one of the best examples are, and I'll just read this story now, this tale of, uhm, Avelia. So the best known story of the mask, so the mask of Clavicus Vile, tells the tale of Avelia, a noble woman of some renown. As a young girl, she was grossly disfigured by a spiteful servant. Avelia made a dark deal with Clavicus Vile and received the mask in return. So we don't have the specifics.


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[Assistant] I kind of get the vibe that she had no idea that the mask was going to be ripped away from her a year and one day after the marriage to this baron, cause that's, you know what I mean? Like it doesn't seem like a very hyper, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] But remember too, from the people in, in the actual world within the lore, like not everyone has like a lore keeper knowledge of, you know, a lore, you know what I mean? Like a- That's what I mean.


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[Assistant] People shouldn't mistake it either, like he is still somewhat, you know, egotistical power hungry, I guess, like in regards to uhm,


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[Assistant] To Umbra, but also, uh, the, the triad of Daedra in the Somerset Isles DLC. So, you know, him, Fala, and Nocturnal teaming up, and he was going to get a piece of the transparent, Heart of Transparent lore, which is, you know, obviously this is all to gain some form of power. And you, you know, um, he, you know, impersonate, it was him, he, uh, impersonated Sotha Sil, didn't he? Um, that was in their clockwork.


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[Assistant] Oh, no, the arch. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, the arch. Yeah. Yeah. He impersonated him to then, um, to try and, you know, get into the skeleton.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I remember in the end of the Morrowind DLC mission, like you, it's revealed to be, or it could have even been Barbis, I'm not sure, but I just know that- That's what I meant, I thought it was Barbis.


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[Assistant] Anyway, you meet him, um, in general. So even though I feel like the, uh, initial split between Clavicus Vile and Barbas, like I love the form of a paradoxical, um, inversion of the aedric ritual. I like that just phrase, but, um,


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[Assistant] That split was kind of a very like primeval kind of thing that happened to, in order to like satisfy his social need and all that.


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[Assistant] He is still a very like, grabby, grabby god, like he wants power and so on. It is quite an intelligent decision.


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[Assistant] Kind of like, sometimes it seems like he doesn't in the way that Papas sometimes, when he's not complying with him, like, you know, in the Skyrim, uhm, thing, they kind of have differences. Like, obviously, Clavicus is like, the master, but it's almost like,


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[Assistant] What I mean is when they were a joined being, I don't think they're the same being as a personality as to when they were split. It wasn't just, I'm going to split a little bit of Barbas off. I get kind of the vibe that the personality that makes up Barbas was like one part of what makes up Clavicus. So now you've got Clavicus Vile like the real, do you, do you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] But I feel like, yeah, it can also cause him problems. Like, you know, there's multiple instances. But imagine if you could- There's a champion.


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[Assistant] Who, who goes against, so, you know, what he wanted to do, he wanted the Rufal, uhm,


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[Assistant] He wanted you to kill Sebastian Lord, um, and get the Rufal Axe. And that kind of thing. And he's like, oh, there you go. You get to keep the axe, but instead, um, and, but you know, do you want, sorry, Clavicus Vile doesn't want Barbas back, but then Barbas wants to be rejoined. And if you convince him, you get the, um, you've got to give up the axe, but you get the mask of Clavicus Vile.


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[Assistant] Yeah, kill Barbas with the axe, whatever. But what I'm just saying, the ultimate thing is he doesn't want, uhm, Barbas. But in the same way, so they kinda seem at odds, in the same way as Oblivion, it's sort of like, oh, I don't want you to give Umbra back to Clavicus Vile, like it's, there are odds, do you know what I mean? A fair few.


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[Assistant] So it's kind of like a, the easiest way to phrase it is Barbas is his support, subordinate, even though he's a different thing, but there's still like, there's a power balance that's off balance, right? You know, Clefka's up here and then Barbas.


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[Assistant] What was that book? Let's find it. Cause if it is the same one we were just talking about, it could sound like that because it's just like, oh, rather than two becoming one, it's one become two, but that doesn't necessarily mean equal split 50-50 down the middle. Cause my kind of-


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[Assistant] Cause I get the, cause yea, I'm pretty sure it is Clavicus Fire would have a greater split of the power.


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[Assistant] Cuz you know, even splitting off 30% of yourself is a massive deal. That's a big chunk of your power. But...


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[Assistant] It seems from the Skyrim dialogue, uhm,


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[Assistant] It just says restored to his full power when he comes back. I don't know if there's anything that says about the half, cause what the wiki quotes as, cause the wiki says something about, I don't know where was it.


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[Assistant] He's known to store up to half his power. So this is just for the fans and everyone listening, you can read it on the wiki, but then you've got to


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[Assistant] Look at the source because they will often, you know, this is bound with everything. Everything's going to have a little bit of interpretation on a primary source.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. So like, it's a reasonable assumption, but it's not necessarily true, if that makes sense. Like, I feel like, and the only reason I would lean on more that it's an uneven split of power is just because Clavicus Vial is able to enforce, you know, you know, Barbas is seen as the subordinate and so on. It doesn't really...


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[Assistant] Yeaah, he says, oh that feels much better, you forget how nice supreme power feels, until you've been stuck in a cave for a few years.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well there shouldn't be many sources on her, so there's only one book, three Tamriel- oh, Jaeger and Bagan stuff, so.


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[Assistant] Oh, no, no, no, no, Umbra creation for Skyrim special edition, the creation club. That's what's linked. My biggest pet peeve. Oh no, hold on. Maybe. Big if true.


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[Assistant] But it's not a DLC, like the acknowledgement that's modded, same way like the Dwemer mud crab or like, you know, the kind of Christmas themed one or like, you know, like if they do it, it's kind of like, it's, you know, are they all canon? Like there's the zombie apocalypse one or something like that. Isn't that literally a zombie?


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[Assistant] To, uh, one, this has got it's credited as the Lord of Souls book, so it's from the Lord of Souls. Right. The Sheogorath claim, I think. I'm sure it is from somewhere that it's not just.


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[Assistant] See Clavicus file's got a few Daedric artifacts, but I feel like just because of the nature of him, I feel like he should have plenty of cool ones and even a bigger list just because it kind of, you kind of get the, you know, the Rufal Axe was created.


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[Assistant] Uhm, for the sort of purpose when Sebastian Lort was looking for a solution. I feel like he's the kind of person that wants lots of artifacts to kind of create deals and stuff and trading and stuff and so I'll give you this thing if you do this.


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[Assistant] And the other one, which is a cool thing too, the, the Fae Falken, uhm, but possibly being a fictional artifact, the Quill enchanted with the soul of a Daedric, so he's enchanted with the soul of a Daedric servant of Clavicus Vile named Fae Falken.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. But uhm, the other obviously, so I guess we can sort of just start dumping into uhm, out of jumping into Umbra. More specifically too. Do you want to, someone want to take the?


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[Assistant] Yeah, so there's the masquerade, the big ordeal involving singing, dancing, and acting, but there's also the word mask with a Q is additionally related to the word masquerade being, um, sorry, one of its few meanings, most contemporary one to act or live under false pretenses, which, you know, is exactly what happens with Avalia. Like she's actually horrifically scarred and.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So it's got the, like the double meaning of like, you know, it's called mask of the queue because it's a mask, like quite physically and literally, but then also the song and the glass.


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[Assistant] So I feel like we've tread a lot of this crown before in the Daedric Artifact video. So I just remember talking about this, but I'm like, cause I really love the, the glamour, the word glamour for, uh,


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[Assistant] For like the enchanting in fact, so like a, like a glamour, like, you know, like, like Scottish, uhm, is that, isn't that the root word of grammar or something? Isn't it? Isn't that, aren't they related somehow? I'm not sure.


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[Assistant] So, you know, uh, uh, King Henry VIII, uhm, his horned helmet, it kinda looks not exactly the same, but it's one wacky-ass looking helmet. I'll put it up on screen, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I think you actually see it, but it's got such a strong, enchanting feeling and presence that you just find yourself, you know, it's just completely alluring and you're, and you're, do you know what I mean? It doesn't become weird anymore. It's instantly, you know, under its glamour.


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[Assistant] It could also be something that is, that is uhm, that maybe like projects the most like attractive sort of version. Imagine the smell. Jesus Christ. But like imagine like you can project uhm.


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[Assistant] But yeah, but I'm just saying imagine the face, um, you know, what you consider the most beautiful person ever is projected, is these, what's projected to you, but someone else sees something different. So maybe it is like functional. That would be cool. That would be cool.


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[Assistant] That's interesting. By the way, what I was talking about there, that glamour was originally a Scottish alteration of grammar. Glamour, it was, um, it was, this article explains blah, blah, blah. I actually gotta go. You could keep talking for a bit. I've actually got to find the full thing. I just read the title, but they're related, the words glamour and grammar. Um.


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[Assistant] Just real quick, do you know how like, um, originally like magic and stuff is like strongly related to like words and spells and so on? And like even to a degree, I guess, this is an interesting word, you know a spelling of a word when you write it? It's like spelling, but, but when you cast like, you know, what grammar is, but a gla-


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[Assistant] Yeah, the uhm, another, I guess, I guess we can talk about, just to, like, each of their, like, uh,


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[Assistant] Clavicus Vile's presence in all of the different games, which, you know, more so unfamiliar with some of the early ones, but there's a whole Daggerfall one. It's pretty straightforward, you kill a werewolf and you...


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[Assistant] Get the Mask of Clavicus Vile in return. It's nothing much. Um, and his actual quest is the Bitter Cup in, um, in Morrowind. But what I like too is the Mask of Clavicus Vile is also there, but it's owned by a necromancer, a necromancer called Sorkfil the Raven.


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[Assistant] There's this, actually there's a really cool artist, and I've forgotten his name, but he does do some like, he kinda does these like hyper-realistic almost like, I'm not a-


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[Assistant] So I don't know what the type of painting is called, but it's kind of like a somewhat blurry-ish, realistic kind of version of all these Morrowind characters. And he does one of Sorkfield the Raven. Uhm, and he's standing there with a mask. It's really cool.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I can't remember what, I'll just look at the script of what I said about him, uhm, from the, don't fear the mask or something, I forgot what we titled that video. But uhm, yeah, I said I do love his name and I wonder if the moniker, uhm,


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[Assistant] The raven gives any hints about his past, perhaps connection to Nocturnal, though that could be grasping at straws. Uhm, regardless, the interesting part is what you find on your corpse when you kill him. Oh, at the mask. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Well, like, part of the reason to the Sawfield the Raven guy, like, being a necromancer, you having the most clever smile, you know, if you're doing all these disgusting necromancy experiments, like, everyone will have a better opinion of you if you've just got this enchanting mask. Same sort of deal, like, that you kind of get is the why that the Cyrodiil vampires are so powerful is because they have all of, like, you know,


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[Assistant] The, uh, charms and stuff that are given through the, their patron clavicus vile and all of their, uh.


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[Assistant] I mean, I feel like from a lore perspective, it's just the sort of, you know, it, it gives you some great benefit and then takes away something is all they're trying to translate into gameplay terms with attributes. But I feel like in the, within the lore that there could be a greater, you know, expansion, like you were just sort of saying.


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[Assistant] Well, that's all, that's like, you know, like we apply generally to all of the, uhm,


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[Assistant] The Daedric artifacts is seen through a lore context versus a, a gameplay context is very different. Like, you know, 20% price bet, better prices in Skyrim for the Masked Clavicus file is not its.


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[Assistant] The actual, you know, breadth of its power in reality, you know what I mean? Or even, you know, fortifying your personality by 20 points. It still doesn't... It's just...


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[Assistant] It's the easiest for people to think. Gameplay is only a representation, which is limited by the gameplay systems, you know? If there isn't an attribute for speed, but these boots are supposed to make you super speed or something like that, you know what I mean? It won't be the same.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And it's supposed to be populated with Scarfin, right? And often, like, you know, Clavicus even kind of represents himself as a Scarfin-like kind of creature.


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[Assistant] If you look at, like, if you look at the Daggerfall sprite for Clavix Violent Barbas, Barbas looks like a hundred times better.


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[Assistant] Hey, people are, people are like the occasional, uhm, side thing. I was just looking at the, uh, pictures of Clavicus Vile down the bottom and there's a picture of him in, as like a shadowed kind of figure in, in the Somerset announcement trailer and it looks really cool. And I was just thinking back to like, you know, oh, wouldn't a, wouldn't a,


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[Assistant] Elder Scrolls series be really cool, but you know how there was talks about, there was like rumors flying around about a Netflix doing an Elder Scrolls series, but if any of them do an Elder Scrolls series, they should do it like CGI, like just the trailers, like they do for Elder Scrolls Online, like a big cinematic, like that'd be so cool. Like I could really.


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[Assistant] Really vibed that. Like, you know how like, back in the day, I don't know if you ever saw Beowulf, the movie where it was all, um, done with like mocap and CGI.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it might be. I only really remember the sort of, uh, rolling hills and scarf and...


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[Assistant] I think that's about, uh, it is any or anything else to say on Clampicus file? Any hot takes?


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[Assistant] I really like- That was a lot of character. Do you know that, uh, you know that famous painting where it's like a kind of a barren landscape, but then there's like clocks melting over the branches and stuff? Like that's what I imagine when I hear melting places. That's pretty cool.


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[Assistant] You know, say the government of a certain city or province can actually benefit from their existence as well because they, you know, they tend to have the rule to, you know, not rob from the poor and they don't really like competitors or their own members going rogue.


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[Assistant] Um, so to speak. So in a way that can almost decrease violent crime. Because, you know, like if they're very professional about it and they only want to steal from people with a lot of money and they don't want to harm anyone in the process, you're not gonna get as many like, you know, bloody muggings in the street and things like that.


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[Assistant] It's, it's kind of a weird contradiction though with just like.


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[Assistant] Well, so yea, just about anyone can pay you for protection, so then you're not even gonna be stealing from the people who really you wanna be stealing from anyway. So, you know, they can't exactly be painted for too nice of a lens.


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[Assistant] She also seems to have like a degree of indifference to it being stolen as well. It almost seems like the Nightingales care a lot more than she does if her artifacts are taken.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, and a lot of when it comes down to, you know, talking about whether it's a religious worship or whether it's a business relationship, she does seem very distant from it all. Uhm, and at the same time, it's like, the, the religious aspects of, uhm,


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[Assistant] Of the Thieves Guild, uh, with the Nightingale seems a bit unusual because, you know, they, when they die, their spirits will go to the Evergloam to kind of forever walk in shadows or however they put it, but for most thieves, you'd think, you like thieving because you want to get rich, you want to make a load of money and get away or whatever.


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[Assistant] What's the point in your spirit being a thief in the shadows for all time? It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me.


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[Assistant] I guess we do get into, with Nocturnal and the Great Cow, how it's kind of ironic that you have to kind of give up your identity in order to be the greatest thief of all time.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I think I lean more towards the idea that for the most part they're much more individualistic and that's why you kind of have a select group who are very, you know, religious about their involvement.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like even when you're talking to Mercer towards the end, it's like, uhm, you can kind of go down the path of saying, you know, I'll essentially do anything for Nocturnal and this is for her.


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[Assistant] Well, she's kind of confused as an entity, like, in general, especially if you look at the Khajiit elements of it. It's that, you know, she needed to be kind of beat into submission so that she realised she wasn't Namira because she associated herself with darkness, but didn't realise she wasn't the Great Darkness.


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[Assistant] So she's not darkness, she's more shadows, and then, you know, so she's kind of just whatever, she in a way doesn't understand herself.


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[Assistant] And as a result, not really anyone else quite understands her either.


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[Assistant] Which is, yeaah, it's why it's kind of fitting that there's the, the Kejiti story of her stealing the Skeleton Key from Azura. It, it fits her perfectly. And it also fits the idea that perhaps she doesn't quite understand how powerful the Skeleton Key might actually be. You know, her willingness to let it be stolen and whatever it will come back to her.


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[Assistant] You know, it's kind of like, it almost does seem like sometimes she'll just steal on a whim and then let things go on a whim as well.


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[Assistant] It's a good example of the differences between the more religious and less religious, um, arms of the guild, because, you know, in Oblivion, you're very much being trained up, or you're proving yourself as a great thief, because the big, the big mission towards the end is to steal something, whereas it, it does feel slightly more like in Skyrim,


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[Assistant] So if you prove yourself to be kind of like a formidable warrior who, you know, has stealth abilities as well, you're kind of like building yourself up to essentially be a champion of Nocturnal as opposed to a Master Fief.


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[Assistant] I think I'll always have a bit of PTSD when it comes to Brynjolf anyway, because when I first played, like when it first came out on Xbox 360,


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[Assistant] I never really encountered any game-breaking glitches, I got like all the achievements except for the ones related to the Thieves Guild because


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[Assistant] Several years before I came back to properly do it again, so. I don't like him. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it really does feel like your reputation kinda precedes you in most of the questlines in Skyrim, whereas if they did have that thing where you kind of had to do...


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[Assistant] A, you know, a quest to steal some gold and fence some gold between missions. It could maybe feel like perhaps when there's a big job about to be done.


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[Assistant] They pick you over the other members of the guild, rather than it kinda just being assumed that you're going on all these missions, it would feel more like you're kind of ascending the ranks. Rather than just being, oh, it's the Dragonborns joined us kind of thing.


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[Assistant] It's purely how it's delivered. Like as you said, if you're giving me more of this good thing, I'll pay for it. It's just, just so long as they don't give you a smaller portion of pie.


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[Assistant] It's like calling it expansion, calling it an expansion is better because it insinuates that you're expanding on what's already there, you know, and that's why it should come later. Whereas DLC is kind of like, you know, it's obviously not intentional, but it's kind of a Weasley way to be like.


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[Assistant] There's no reason to not have this immediately. It's downloadable content, so long as you're downloading it, you know, it's extra content, but it's like, you know, expand on the, on the whole, give us something, you know, to begin with and then add to it.


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[Assistant] It's just another of the reasons why they wouldn't steal from the poor, because the poor make such good recruits for the thieves guild inherently, you know.


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[Assistant] I mean, unless you're just doing it for the thrill, like some of the thieves, where, you know, if you steal a rag off of a, off of a poor person, then, you know, you're probably going to get, it matters more to them than the jewel does to the rich merchants. Yeah, so what a thrill. Yeah, that's not a thrill.


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[Assistant] It's a pyramid scheme, but nocturnal is worth it, so you might as well join up. Alright. Well, thanks to everyone.


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[Assistant] Yeah, overcoming is a massive element and that's, I guess, why she's very, she slash he is, um, very favorable of Lorkhan and the


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[Assistant] Seems very like related, like in some texts, it's kind of like, would be like implied lovers and others. It could just sort of be like buddies and so on. But as we know, like Lorcan's sort of creation of Mundus, um, is sort of a big mortal test in the eyes of the Dunmer at least.


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[Assistant] Purely, um, purely just opinion based, but I kind of liked when it was, cause the female introduction was in Skyrim. Before that, I'm pretty sure it was always male.


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[Assistant] You had, when it was like the anticipations and uhm, the tribunal, they were all like sort of reflections, like Vivek and uhm, Afala were both sort of.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, that's the thing, it's like any Daedric Prince can technically do it, it's just you don't see it with some. Like there's nothing limiting Azura from showing up as a dude.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well that's the fundamental sort of, uhm, difference which, you know, we'll get to the, to the poo story everyone wants, but we've got, uhm, where, you know, Boethiah has sort of, uh, given her teachings to the Velothi and Prophet Veloth, and the Velothi are Veloth's followers.


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[Assistant] And they were leaving to go to a new land, which was Resdain, later Morrowind.


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[Assistant] I mean, they became the Khmer people, but on the way Trinamac, um, Oriels champion tried to stop.


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[Assistant] Uhm, tried to stop them. And then so, uh, Boethiah, uh, well, there's different, there's different texts to say how it goes down. Like some say like Boethiah just won, some say Mephala came and stabbed Trinimac and weakened him. Cause Trinimac's supposed to be like one of the most powerful gods, um, ever. But the big sort of, uh, argument there.


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[Assistant] They thought that Tears weren't the right response to the Sundering or something. It's something like that. I can't, I'm paraphrasing hardcore there, but essentially, um, they thought, Boethiah thought Trinimac was, you know, taking Lorcan's name in vain and, you know, obviously big fan of Lorcan and then, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, and, and then they had a little fight and the traditional, well, one of the traditional stories is that, um,


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[Assistant] It's one of the, actually, the whole thing, that little story there, it's a really good way to think of it. I think it's like the perfect example of sort of


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[Assistant] And what they call an Anuic or a Padamaic sort of philosophy, like it just puts them right there, but with here is completely a Padamaic idea, all for Lorcan, all for the, the challenge overcoming kind of thing. And then you've kind of got, um, the Anuic perspective being the.


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[Assistant] Looking upon creation unfavorably and being like, we're trapped or whatever. So, you know, for example, like Red Guards, even though they're not connected to the Elven pantheon, they do share the same Anuic beliefs about how, you know, mortality is kind of a bad thing. It is fucked.


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[Assistant] There's a really good, there's a good chunk here that I think sums it up pretty well called Glorious Upheaval. It's from Elder Scrolls Online. But it's basically like a book trying to convince you away from the eight divines and why you should follow Boethio. But Boethio waits to receive the word.


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[Assistant] Boethiah waits to receive the worthy. He pays no heed to mewling praise and prayers or cries for aid and mercy from his faithful. He delights in the blood of the overthrown, the betrayed, the conquered and murdered, those too weak to survive and receive his gifts.


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[Assistant] Uhm, who proved the weakness of gods when Trinimax suffered in his stomach. Every power can be dismantled.


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[Assistant] Demonstrate your will to the deceiver. Do what you must to sever the grip of all rulers and place the crown on your own brow. In this way, you carve the path to illumination. You recognize your potential. And like, I really like that too, cause it kind of, it sounds so much like Kim. Like, and especially if you look at the 36 Lessons of Avak,


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[Assistant] And all of the, um, references to, um, you know, the, the ruling King and the crowns and like, you know, using sort of, uh, monarchy, what's a, what's it called again?


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[Assistant] The symbol of royalty is Kim. That's like, that's how it gets called. So uhm, you know, Kim is quite literally exerting your utmost will onto the universe and so on. And it's very in like that sort of Boethius domain of overcoming and exertion and you know.


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[Assistant] Like, it's very suited for that long-term.


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[Assistant] It's a cruel, like, the good Daedra aren't-


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[Assistant] You know, it's their metaphysical kind of lessons or there's more, like if you just look at them, like the three together, there's no, there's a lot of like nuances, the reason to why they are worshiped by the Dunmer or so on. Cause at a face value look, like from a serodillic perspective, there, a lot of them, you know, Mephila and Boethiah especially look pretty horrible, you know, so it's the kind of, um,


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[Assistant] Interesting that, because I kind of think sometimes, especially when you look at that, where, uhm, like, you know, there's the Sotha, Scylla, Azura, Dynamica and the Boethia, Amalexia, like, they might be a bit of, like, more opposition within the Reclamations or the Anticipations than you think.


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[Assistant] What's strange about that is that reference of like, the son of Boethiah, cause outside of that, uhm,


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[Assistant] So maybe it's a less nuanced take or something on it, but it's interesting that like they, that acknowledge him as a Padamaic, but.


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[Assistant] I dunno, like nords are technically padamaic. You know, they fall onto that sort of thing. They're very favorable of creation and stuff, so it's kinda... But then again, you know.


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[Assistant] I guess like, I guess one thing you could say about the Anoic, Padamaic, uhm, dynamic is that Padamaic who look favorably upon creation, uhm, and like, you know, Lorcan's test and everything, they aren't necessarily going to, uhm,


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[Assistant] Whereas the Anuic, it's sort of like everyone can just sit there and cry and have a big group hug and be like, oh, creation's so bad. I wish we were like floating spirits and aetherius. Like they can all kind of align around their beliefs more because yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, one other cool quote here. This is just a cool quote, might not be relevant, but let's see if you want to explore it. But it was basically, it's talking, it's the same thing, talking about, uhm, the why you shouldn't re-


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel like I can't really articulate it well now, but I know that, uhm,


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[Assistant] In the 36 lessons of Vivec, and right into Boethius' sphere with Lorcan and everything, that-


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[Assistant] The concept of like will, um, and love being sort of the same thing. Like basically there's a, I can't articulate it here. It's quite like complex and I need the quotes and stuff. Then maybe I'll have a go at it later. But, um, there's this idea of like, especially the way that Vivek talks about it, that will.


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[Assistant] Being like a form of like love or love under will. I forgot, I forgot the exact thing, but basically that will in general.


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[Assistant] Is a, is a powerful theme in the Elder Scrolls. Like you can forget about the love part for a bit, but will really is. Like the overcoming, like all the stuff with Kim and, um, and also will as in like asserting your myth. Like if we talk about how like myth is a bit more like give and take and.


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[Assistant] If you get under the dragon break, all that crazy stuff and kalpas and what not. But if we talk about the idea like a mythopoeia where you're sort of.


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[Assistant] You know, changing the myth is somewhat changing reality. That is a will being exerted on things, but yea.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you could even, you could think about too, like things like, you know, creating a baby is like, you're like, you sort of need to love to exert your will on the universe. But it is the kind of idea that like, you know, will is often connected to love. So for example,


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[Assistant] Well, a good way is, I feel like we've covered a lot of it, you kind of get the gist of what Boethiah is in a sort of conventional understanding, uhm, you know, will, overcoming, all that kind of stuff. But by any means necessary, wake up, choose violence, all that. But we can talk about some of the other, uhm, uh,


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[Assistant] Interpretations of Boethra. I really like Boethra from the, uhm, from the Else-Elsewest pantheon. So called the Warrior of East and West, which is also interesting. I don't know if that's a direct reference to like, East as in Morrowind and...


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[Assistant] Mythos thing for that. But uhm, I like that take, it's another sort of thing with the lore. I'm trying to...


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[Assistant] I'll find again. Yep, so Boethra, the warrior of the East and West, she is the mate of Mephala, who did not forget her love for Boethra after Onur sent her into exile for her rebellious nature. Boethra walked the many paths in exile and she returned. It was she who pried the Eye from Magrus, and this is why Khajiit values swords as well as claws.


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[Assistant] It's such an epic name, Death Trap, by comparison.


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[Assistant] It's kind of like, uh, to like further talk about Boethra in general, uhm, it's anything to achieve your goal. It's just like, and nothing's off limits. It's all about your will to win, whether it's underhanded or whether it's, you know, one-on-one. It's just about becoming, I guess, the most powerful you can be, even or using


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[Assistant] Everything you can. So that's why it's interesting that, like, just to connect back in, like, Nerevar being the son of Boethiah, it's just interesting that that's the take on it, or that name, just because, uhm, what the tribunal did sounds very in, uhm,


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[Assistant] Oh, I was just saying that it's, like, it's stated that they're, um, that they're all allies. So you have Azura, Boethra, and, um, Mephala are allies, as well as, like, with Lorcage was. Like, it's more, sort of, explicit in the Khajiit mythology. The Khajiit mythology has heaps overlapped with, um, Dunmer mythology.


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[Assistant] I'm also going to go ahead and assume that, um, the Katana is supposed to be gold brand, which is one of Boethia's other artifacts.


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[Assistant] I feel like right now you're unintentionally massaging Elder Scrolls Legends lore into it because remember,


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[Assistant] In the Elder Scrolls Legends thing, you have Lord Narathin and he has this plot with Boethiah to do the culling and you know, this big Daedric ritual to kill off a bunch of people. So if you look at it through that view, then perhaps that makes a little bit more sense as to how some of the- I actually had a good thought about that connection.


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[Assistant] And the same thing, like, everyone's individual, so you can have, uh, like, Narefin maybe takes on that ideology, like you were just talking about, Drew, and then he and his small cult, you know, act, you know, not necessarily in conjunction with the rest of the Thalmor, like, they're doing their own thing to- Yeah, his- his-


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[Assistant] With the, with the downfall of the tribunal, they lose the sort of opulence that they had and the position of power that wasn't about the individuals. It was just given to them by these tribunal gods that basically protected them. And so now they've really embraced that sort of reclamations.


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[Assistant] So where Vivek succeeded, like that's what I talked about in that big Vivek video is where he was sort of like,


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[Assistant] Where he kind of accomplished it, he kind of screwed over his people at the same time because he took away the challenge from them or the ability for them to grow. So it was just on, but yeah, you can check that.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm interested the more I think about it, and we probably should do an episode kinda just on reclamations for this, but uhm,


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[Assistant] Azura just seems like the odd one out of the bunch. Like there's obviously in terms of her philosophy, like I don't really see, perhaps actually maybe in the elsewhere mythology there's a bit more, uhm, but Azura's connection to Lorcan necessarily, outside of, you know, being a Daedra or whatever, but her...


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[Assistant] Yeah, but then Azura gets talked about a lot. I would say even Azura in, in the Dunmer mythology, it almost seems like she's the most talked about. I think cause she has to do with like, you know, the prophecies and stuff like that. But, um, yeah, she's, she's talked about a lot by comparison. My father's by far the least, I think. But, um, yeah, back to Billy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, to be fair, like Boethiah's, and this goes with a lot of characters in The Elder Scrolls, they're interesting because of their connections and interactions with other things, like you can't really, if you're just discussing Boethiah inside of, inside a vacuum, it's, yeah, you know, god of overcoming and spirit of,


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[Assistant] Trials, like, you know what I mean, like, it's not, uhm, there's not much to her outside of that. It's what she does and how she interacts with other things.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean it kind of makes more sense than a lot of the other races. Being the Nerevarine. Interesting. Interesting.


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[Assistant] Well, we sort of mentioned the ebony mail, but we know what that is. It's a big, you know, ebony suit of armor and you know, it's had varying effects in different games. It's got the cool shadowy thing in Skyrim, but before it's been like, um, fire resistance.


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[Assistant] But uhm, it's a big ebony suit, if you call it the Death Shroud of Lorcan, we explained that already. Uhm, another, the other big one, you know, about his gold brand, which is the Golden Katana.


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[Assistant] Um, that's been around and apparently it was wielded by the Emperor when he charged into the battle the Red Ring, but then we learned that that was actually the Forgotten Hero that was wearing the Emperor's armor.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it's def- it's definitely, um, Lord Lain, I wouldn't, you know, Dragons of the North, you would assume Atmora, or perhaps even Sk- it could be Skyrim, I guess, in ancient times, but-


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[Assistant] The reality of it is that it's Daggerfall era lore, that's uhm, it's the same as the whole like uhm, Lyrisia story, uhm, where it's like fighting a, uhm, world.


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[Assistant] I can't remember if this, I don't know when this outfit style was put into ESO and obviously that's how you can like get the shield look. But I don't know if it, how it worked, I don't know if the modder...


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[Assistant] Inspiration from ESO and made the shield or if it was the reverse and some something tells me in my head I feel like it's the reverse because there's this really cool mod Um, I think it's even by frankly HD the same guy that does all the textures and so on a bunch of the really for good 4k textures he did a gold brand and Feastruck and like a Boethia pack of Daedric items at one point. I'm pretty sure that would be


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[Assistant] When I put it out there, uhm, I have a feeling that it was, like, it's not the exact same, but it's very similar in design with the gold and steel for the fearstruck thing. But uhm, it was from, there's a Brodual video from 2015 showing off the mod. So, like, if you consider-


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[Assistant] But it's, I didn't, can't find exactly, but I know the, um, because the book, the, it's like one of those like online stores, sort of like replica, like cosmetic kind of things. So I have a feeling it was actually after, cause Elder Scrolls Online only came out in 2014 at that point. So I feel like it could have easily come in many years since then.


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[Assistant] Afterwards, but it's, it's similar enough. Like it's, it's cool, but it's just, yeah.


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[Assistant] Anyway, the point was it'd be really cool if it actually was because it's kind of, I loved whenever you see that kind of like outlaw stuff get canonized in games.


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[Assistant] Like how they canonized the, the depiction of Alicia, the statue with the horns and everything and so on. Like they, they do look at the fan stuff and take inspiration from it. So it's definitely cool.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. They've done a lot to it. I remember being in high school in like the last year of high school in 2013 and like the E3 trailer and stuff where it had just come out and looking at it and so on and yeaah.


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[Assistant] And back in the- oh, that's- I gotta go. You know Shoddycast, that's how they started off, remember? It was like, uh, podcasts in anticipation of Elder Scrolls Online. Was it? Elder Scrolls Online kicked off Camel as well.


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[Assistant] Like, well dude, that already happens, like the Morrowind boomers and stuff. I feel like...


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[Assistant] I don't know, I feel like Daggerfall Arena is like proper boomer, right? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. We've got a little while to go before we get there. Yeaah. It will grow up one day and Skyrim will be the Elder Scrolls Boomer game.


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[Assistant] I was just gonna say the reason I believe it more to be like a Cell thing is they did the same thing with Peri-Arts Realm. It kinda just looks like the Deadlands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.


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[Assistant] I don't know, it's called Oblivion Realm of Peri-ite, it's like the location name.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I just saw like put down the game things, like even if it was supposed to be, it's just like, I would just ignore it and expect them to do something cool in the future with it. Like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so if you go uhm, it's in the, yeah, these are called the Barons of Move like this, then an eighth, eighth Daedroth came, and he was a Demi-Prince called Fa'nuet Hen, or the Multiplier of Motions unknown, of, of, sorry, Motions known, and he said, whom do you wait for, yadda yadda. This is like the birth stuff.


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[Assistant] This guy- cause the guy appears in Elder Scrolls Online and I feel like this is the only time we've actually-


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[Assistant] Seen like a demi-prince for real, cause demi-princes are a thing, and it's just funny you don't really see them much, but I mean, I'm just looking at the wiki page for it now, there's like a demi-prince of pastries, like connected to Sheogorath, uhm, and there's some daughter of her seen, but there's also, the other thing that makes me think of, if it's just child of,


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[Assistant] But I mean, he's not like a Demi-Dedric Prince. Sorry, yeah, but they-


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[Assistant] But, uh, he's a, what was I gonna say, uhm, oh yeaah, there's also, cause I know Malacath had a son at one point, the one that Sheogorath tricked him into killing, or I can't remember exactly how it went down, but Malacath's son died, so I guess he would be a demi-prince. But, uhm, yeaah, we've drifted a little far from the Aether.


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[Assistant] What I could talk about is uhm, you know, there's a picture on the wiki there, uhm, but the date, the face of the inspiring fountain had done my art mask aspect of Boethiah, and I really, there's cool concept art around for this too, but the,


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[Assistant] Multiple Daedric helmets now supposed to be like representative of gods, like I really like the idea of Daedric armor, like fashioned in a sort of representative way of a Daedric prince, like different things, but uhm, and it has floating horns and that's cool too, but.


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[Assistant] I-I-I quite like, uh, Deidre Karma. Uhm, in Skyrim. In Morrowind as well. Yea, in Morrowind. Uhm, I like- Skyrims, I know what they're going for, the harsher sort of thing, but I still like the glowing red stuff more. I think, even though nostalgia, I still-


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[Assistant] Oblivion's is probably my least favorite of them all, but I still really like it just cause nostalgia was like so cool to get and so on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I like scary faces and masks and stuff and I feel like that should be for Demon armor, which is quite literally what it is.


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[Assistant] Alright, well, that's it ladies and gentlemen. Uhm, we'll be back to nerd out with you again next time. Alright.


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[Assistant] The goddess of the dark, the lady of decay, but different to nocturnal's dark in the sense that this darkness is referring to all things disgusting, I guess in the most simple sense, things like spiders and maggots and flesh, like fleshy corpses and decay and bodies and


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[Assistant] All of the gross stuff that would be like the antithesis to the things light, light not being the sun but being things involved with what's holy and archaic and gods like that.


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[Assistant] The way I look at it is kinda like she gets Malekath's seconds or the ones that are like so gross that Malekath wouldn't even consider them because


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[Assistant] While he's a patron of outcasts, I guess. Outcasts don't have to be gross. I feel like being gross for lack of a better word is kind of like a qualification.


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[Assistant] For Namira, like maybe not to get started, but that's where it eventuates. Like you can be a follower of Malekath and just kind of be this like low personality person or an orc.


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[Assistant] I guess an area where they do both overlap is they want their followers to stay as they are. So if you look at Malacath, for example, Malacath wants outcasts to be outcasts. If you stop being an outcast, then you kind of.


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[Assistant] Don't really fall within his sphere anymore, and he doesn't really have any...


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[Assistant] Not used to you, but you know, you're just out of touch and it's similar with Namira. You don't want to become someone who's disgusting, be in her favor and then think that she's going to be giving you powers or help if you change. So in a way it's a bad cycle. She keeps you there if you want her benefits.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I wouldn't- I wouldn't expect that she comes into your life and makes you a better person and then is like, that was her goal, like, I wanted you to rebirth into this super pious, like, good character who doesn't do any-


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[Assistant] Looking at Namira and talking about Richmond mythology is actually looking at some of the rituals and the different things they do.


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[Assistant] And so they do this sacrifice on this ever-oozing altar, where the heart of the child is cut out by the clan's Haggraven Matriarch and offered to Nymira. And then on top of that, children that the Matriarch deemed too weak are sacrificed to Nymira, the crow wife,


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[Assistant] Uh, the tribe also, um, has writhing, writhing masses of centipedes, rootress, and other squirming creatures.


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[Assistant] To be- To be specific to we just need to establish two.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, that's the point I'm trying to get across anyway, is I agree with what you're saying.


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[Assistant] It is. I definitely agree. I just don't want, um, the listeners to like lose the emphasis on the fact that all Nomira worship seems to be pretty gross still. Like, I mean, this clan specifically, um, pluck, you know, bugs from the floor and eat them during worship. It's still all very like, eww, yeah.


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[Assistant] What was the story we were talking about, uhm, could have been when we were talking about Azura, but about, I think it was Namira thought she was the Great Darkness. Nocturnal days. Nocturnal thought she was the Great Darkness.


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[Assistant] And Himeya Simora has a name, it's not Erdra, but it's something super similar.


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[Assistant] But just, just speaking about Khajiit as well, uhm, so the Dramathra, who are like these corrupted Khajiit, who went to, essentially what is the Khajiit's version of hell, kind of, right, if you think about it. Uhm, they are very negative.


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[Assistant] Uhm, like they're known to be like super cynical, hateful, miserable. They want to bring other people into it to share in that they're suffering. Uhm.


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[Assistant] In general, in elsewhere, Namira is worshipped by those who are like jealous or angry or, you know, hate the world. Like these types of personalities, even in Khajiit mythology, they do gravitate.


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[Assistant] Towards the worship of the lady of decay. Uhm, and of course, I mean, if you read into it, like you can see like, oh, power hungry people may find themselves swayed towards the great darkness, but I think that's just Daedric Princes in general. Anyone seeking powers is gonna seek out, uhm, powerful entities to help.


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[Assistant] No, me neither, but I think that's like all Daedric Princes really, like they need something to be against, like even Mehrunes Dagon, it's hard to be a prince of ambition and change if there's nothing to change, like, you know.


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[Assistant] It's interesting to look at her motives in the different quests throughout the Elder Scrolls as well. Like I know in Oblivion she had followers who Priests of Arcaya were going to convert and you were basically sent there to stop that happening so they could stay as ruined, dwelling, bare-chested, angry people.


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[Assistant] Like these underworld vibes like she has claim on. Kind of.


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[Assistant] He's an imposter. She, she, she needs the souls and he was a mortal who ascended. He's like, nah, I'm the, I'm the god of, of life and death. I get the souls. So the RK is sus video coming soon.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's interesting. I also like the, there's an almost, um, I mean, not for me personally, but an almost seductive aspect to Namira's kind of attitudes and teachings. I mean, you look at Skyrim, like, uh, Eola, the,


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[Assistant] She seems to have some kind of seductive charm slash magic that she uses on brother Veralis when you bring him, this is the priest, to the altar to make him lay on it and you know, he kind of goes into a trance-like state.


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[Assistant] And I know when Namira first calls out to you, I think it's Namira calling out to you, not Iola, right? When you're in the ruin, and they're saying, and the voice is saying like, oh, it is Iola. No, actually I think it is Iola, she's like whispering, yea, it's Iola. It's just booming super loud into your head.


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[Assistant] Yeah. It's almost like she's like an aspect. It's echoing. It's good acoustics. Yeah. It's just, it's like, I mean, imagine if she was some kind of aspect of Namira without actually you knowing it.


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[Assistant] Could explain that, but, but anyway, yeah, like it is interesting that there's this like ability to kind of bring someone who may not be prone to the darkness into it.


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[Assistant] By being like hyper suggestive and like, um, you remember flesh and like gaslighting.


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[Assistant] But, but, but she didn't really convince him. I feel like she kind of just, he gave, she gave him these, these, uh, blessings and you kind of have no choice but to use them, if, if that makes sense?


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[Assistant] Three, I think, are there three? Or it's, there's three conditions. You pick whatever, but it has to be physical, like you have to be able to see it. I don't know, he says- Yeah, the three blessings, sorry. One is a disease that has to be-


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[Assistant] No, it's an interesting story, this one. Uhm, I just want to clarify, everywhere you read it says, oh, first era. But uhm, in the actual story, it says, doesn't use the word first era, and it refers to the time period as when Daedra, like, walked on Nurn or something?


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[Assistant] No, it's just interesting because everywhere you look, it just, any wiki, any source, people will say first error or it will hyperlink to first error.


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[Assistant] But uhm, just wanna question that. Cause I don't think it's entirely clear. Do we know what race we live? Uhm, I'm assuming it's a water elf. Oh, okay, right. Thirteenth in line? To the King of Valenwood?


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[Assistant] It says it's not specified, uhm, what the gender was, but I think we can assume it's a male. I mean, that's the vibe I get from...


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[Assistant] Yeah, you can, I think they can, uh, read The Beggar, The Beggar Prince. And it is funny though how Nomira kind of, um, screwed him over or like warped his desires.


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[Assistant] Because he didn't come to Nomira saying, I want to be dark and disgusting and gross. Like he basically said, give me fame and fortune in a way. And she goes, okay, you want your name to be remembered forever. It'll, you'll forever be known as the ultimate beggar, basically.


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[Assistant] A lot of Daedric Princes, they do have Sphere Overlap and it's kind of just like their own nuanced way of approaching a similar concept.


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[Assistant] Like for example, like you said, drew with peri-ite and pestilence. Peri-ite doesn't love pestilence because it's gross. You know, he's, it's kind of just like, he likes natural order. It's a more.


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[Assistant] Kinda like how, he's very different to Jigalag, but you know how Jigalag's order is like this super strict, like, I mean it's too ordered, but.


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[Assistant] Well, I guess what I'm saying is, periart would see natural order as a more objective thing. Yeah, the peri-


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. So whereas I think Namira kind of enjoys, you know, seeing like turning someone into a cannibal is not doing anything to natural order. It's just, it's just corruption and grossness.


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[Assistant] Namira would like a disease, not just to wipe things out, but just to be there and stay there as an affliction.


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[Assistant] They do, they, they like to make a purpley realm of floating rocks. Come on now, seriously. Yea, they did it with meridians. They make it all like that. There's a lot of realms where floating rocks feature and they'll get like a purpley, like we had the soul can man, switch it up.


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[Assistant] It is interesting because I remember something as well, Scott, and I just can't seem to find it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, which is still really cool if it was in Skyrim because those effects don't feature, but I suppose when you become interested in enchanting and make a high level character in Oblivion, you can kind of do stuff like that yourself.


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[Assistant] I would actually find it cooler if they gave it an even better effect in Skyrim. So same principle of it allows you to eat people. But like, I don't know, it increases your damage. You know what I mean? So it almost feels like a drug or a stimulant. Like health and stamina stuff.


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[Assistant] I feel like they're going to use the Elder Scrolls Online to build upon heaps of


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[Assistant] Very cool, uh, Daedric realm to visit. Cause it's a nightmare realm and think about the kind of, you know.


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[Assistant] Graphics that Elder Scrolls 6 will be running on compared to going in a nightmare realm in that guy's tower and oblivion.


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[Assistant] You could almost have like a, oh, I'm actually scared. This is like a horror game when I go into this Daedric realm specifically.


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[Assistant] I mean that was put in Elder Scrolls Online I think with the Argonians and she was trying to corrupt like a history.


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[Assistant] And it was like making everything crazy and all the animals and creatures were going all.


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[Assistant] Agro, but uhm, the other artifact which, did we say the staff of the ever scam?


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[Assistant] It's, it's a weird thing because it seems to be mostly associated with Shere Gorath in every way possible. Uhm, it's just that on the shrine that you bring it back to, it says Namira on it.


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[Assistant] So, but, I mean, the shrine area, there's like this big statue of Shayagorath. It's a bit confusing. If I...


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[Assistant] But when you go there, when you go to the shrine in Darkfathom Cave, and you put the staff of the Everscamp on the altar,


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[Assistant] On the, the statue, like, uh, the podium is a big Sheogorath, like, standing there with a, you know, his little funny cap on and his staff and everything like that. It's just apparently there's a Daedric inscription on the altar, uhm, which just says Namira underneath the words everlasting life.


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[Assistant] And a ot in oblivion, which I believe is the thing for the letter O, like the symbol on the front. Yeah. Welp.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like, I don't know if we can really talk about that, um, as a artifact of hers cause it's so unconfirmed. Um, like you can, I don't know, we could say what it does. I mean, it just seems to like have scamps that follow you permanently and you can't get rid of them.


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[Assistant] Cause it seems like such a, it seems like such a troll. You know what I mean? Like it's like a, it's like another, another joke star of Shea Gorath, but you know, it's just a hindrance. That's its purpose. It's a hindrance. And there's just these persistent scamps who are always present.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and if you kill them they just rematerialize. And the stuff also slows you down. And compels its user not to dispose of it. Which is why you have to go dispose of it for her.


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[Assistant] Bit of a joke artifact. I can't tie it to Nomirae in any- in any way.


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[Assistant] You know what I would like to see though? I'd like to see a Daedric Prince get some nuance to their influence that's not something that's, oh, but it's good for you. So it's like, mm, I'm corrupt and evil and gross, but oh, it's to better you and strengthen you. I'm like, I'd like to just see one with a different motive. Something, something just as cool, but more unexpected.


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[Assistant] Pretty cool. I think that brings us to the end. Although I feel like we talked quite fast. I feel like we condensed a podcast into a shorter length. It's about the same length, isn't it?


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[Assistant] Yeah. But anyway, I guess thank you everyone for watching and supporting the podcast. We really appreciate it. Social media links are in the description below, as well as a merch link if you want to get one of these sick shirts. And we will nerd out with you all again very soon.


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[Assistant] You, you're at the whims of a Daedric Prince. It's like, you know, we spoke about vampires last week and, and they're often compared. And I think the main difference is where Moloch Baal very much kind of created vampires out of spite.


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[Assistant] Oh yea true, I totally forgot that for a second.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well that way you get to use more of your arsenal rather than just your strongest sword for example and there's kind of like the academic aspect to it when you're kind of researching their nests or whatever and you kind of, it tells a story if you happen upon the lair of a specific type of creature rather than it just being, you know, a different kind of undead or something like that.


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[Assistant] It's going to be weird, like Michael, you mentioned the fact that the idea is that these lichen throats, they maintain humanoid elements, but for some of these creatures, that's going to be quite hard to pull off, like, you know, a were vulture and a were bat.


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[Assistant] Is the idea that they would be Bosmer? That these were vultures for the most part?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause it does go against the Green Pact, doesn't it, uhm, to, to be a Lichen Robe in general, which, you know, well, one of the reasons given for that is that, you know, that there's the story that Ifri


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[Assistant] Uhm, Hursin was in love with Nurni, who, you know, is the, is Nurn, and, uh, she scorned him and chose Ifri, so Hursin then killed the Grat Stag.


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[Assistant] Uhm, like if he's beast, essentially, follower, and that's the, that's the face he wears, is that stag. So that they have a history with each other, and that would make sense why.


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[Assistant] The bosmer should be against lycanthropy in general.


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[Assistant] At the same time though, if it wasn't for the animosity between those two gods, it would make sense, to me at least, for the Bosmer to embrace, uhm, like, Varian probes, like, to, to want to become


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[Assistant] If you eat other animals or if you, uh, feast on other, you know, living things in general, then why would that go against the green pet, theoretically?


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[Assistant] I'm just stating that it creates new types of creature. It's so chaotic.


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[Assistant] Aware crocodile is interesting because if an argonian becomes aware crocodile, it kind of makes sense and you could see how that transformation would happen. But I feel like any other race turning into a crocodile would be an absolute abomination. Like even Hircine wouldn't be proud of. Well, do you know what? It kind of reminds me.


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[Assistant] Specifically to fight Sheregor, if it's that classic story from the Accords of Madness where all it takes is a little, what is it, like a little, little singing bird to, yea, to destroy a were daydraft which was infected with lycanthropy.


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[Assistant] What he specifically did was he said


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[Assistant] Plus I guess the idea of having like, you know, diseases and strains of things is kind of something that I imagine Daedric Princes would tailor for mortal rules. Whereas I'm sure they can, I mean, as we've seen a million times, they can just transform Daedric creatures into other Daedric creatures.


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[Assistant] Which is something Hircine resents, is when he's like chosen, you know, he's given this gift to a mortal, and if they regret it and want to go back to normal, then he is much more upset, seeing as he, you know, is very proud of his lichen throats.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I can't stop thinking about like Michael J. Fox, Teen Wolf kind of aesthetic. Yeah, but that's, but that's what it-


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[Assistant] Which it's, it's one reason why I think it is a little weird that it is just kind of a contagious, um, disease is that for, for Moloch-Bauer vampirism, that makes total sense.


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[Assistant] You couldn't, it'd be weird to imagine that her scene would want just some random person who has never hunted in their life, has no interest in hunting, would want them to contract lycanthropy to be part of his, you know, his hunting pack. But there you go, I guess they operate in mysterious ways.


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[Assistant] That's why you turned to Jigalag, cause he can be trusted, you know what he thinks, you know his rules and they ain't changing. Uhm, pretty boring though.


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[Assistant] Be interesting if like you, from a lore perspective, you hear that howl and that can set off a transformation or something like that when you're in the middle of town.


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[Assistant] I always thought it was just weird because of the weird sisters from Shakespeare, but I could be wrong.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like it, talking a lot about Save Vivec definitely isn't going to happen because there's hours worth of individual lore related to him. So we'll try and avoid him where he's not active, where it's not actively referencing the Dunmer as a whole.


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[Assistant] So you've got the elves on Somerset. They're all kind of collectively the Aldmer. This is before you've got all the variations that later inhabit Greater Tamriel. And at the top of this, Oriëlle and Trinimac kind of are the, they're the figure pieces that all of the elves look up to.


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[Assistant] Then, the Kaima are the changed ones, under Prophet Veloth, who travel across to Resdain, which was no accident, it was all because


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[Assistant] Bwiffia and potentially Mephala betrayed Trinimac and tried to show these- these- this group of gavot elves the truth.


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[Assistant] But essentially, you know, you get the orcs from that because they stay true to Trinimax's deformed form.


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[Assistant] And you've got the- the Kaima who follow this- this brilliant Boethiah who has just kind of-


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[Assistant] I've shown everyone that the gods aren't quite as strong as they act.


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[Assistant] And, yeah. So then they travel across the Greater Tamriel and become the Kaima.


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[Assistant] That's one thing that makes them so unique and allowed them to manifest the way we see them manifest, but in those early days when the Kaima arrived in Resdain,


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[Assistant] There really were no, like the rules were completely different to whatever they knew back on Somerset, and under these good Daedra,


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[Assistant] Uhm, like their teachings is what allowed them to develop this culture and the fact that they ended up splitting off into houses that were kind of like, they worked alongside each other, but they also opposed to each other. This very much came from Mafala's idea of kind of like implanting the, the ideas of


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like a spiritual communal practice as opposed to


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[Assistant] Because like, small individual ghost fences were-


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[Assistant] If you, like, commonplace long before the need to, like, uh, ward, cordon off, uh, Red Mountain, it was just, you know, some spirits after death would protect their family's area of the crypt or whatever else, and then obviously with, uh,


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[Assistant] It's not just the fact that the Tribunal took the power, uhm, because the Dunmah, at their core, are the opposite of what the Kaima were created for. So the Kaima changed physically from the, from the Oldmah, because Boethiah created them as a tribute to Lorcan.


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[Assistant] And by betraying Lorcan, they needed to make a statement that they were completely, they'd completely gone astray. That's an interesting theory.


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[Assistant] There's mention that Nerevar is the son of Boethiah, one of the strongest padamaics, and I think we've talked about it before, like, it's an interesting statement, like, why the son of Boethiah? But then, there's a few quotes, I'll just drop a couple here, but, uh, the idea is that Boethiah was like, in love with Lorcan, because Lorcan was kind of like,


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[Assistant] Because there's no doubt that there's like a cult of personality kind of spawns out of it, no matter how benevolent they may be. Like, you know, Vivette keeping Bardell suspended above the city as a reminder to everyone that, you know, they owe so much to him.


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[Assistant] And that stuff is really negative and the good Daedra and the Ashlanders would, would tell you that. But at the same time, thanks to having living gods who could, you know, Scott, you just said, they can kind of listen to their people and protect their interests live, you know, by negotiating with Tiber Septim and things like that, led to Morrowind being


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[Assistant] Yeah, so it's kind of like, that is an unusual thing about Dunmer society in general, which to be honest, almost all of it is extremely unusual and alien to the other, to the other races and cultures, but you have these elements of their culture that are considered like, you know, really grandiose and, and, um, you know,


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[Assistant] It seems very, yea, very dogmatic, I guess I'm trying to find the right word for it, but then you have these elements that other cultures would consider to be very barbaric, you know, like, uh, slavery obviously, and then having assassination ingrained into your political system with the Morag Tongue, and it's, yea.


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[Assistant] Yeah, specifically like the house Redran of all houses chooses the kind of chitinous like crab-like architecture. And you know, in, in Alderaan, you've got the, the shell of the emperor crab scar and it kind of like, as a,


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[Assistant] The house that's clo- most closely associated with like a warrior culture and strength, they have, you know, one of their major buildings.


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[Assistant] But, you know, and also on, on House Indoril, they're, they're definitely a bit OP when they've got one of the living gods kind of who comes from their house and represents their house. Even if they have to try to be a bit, uh, even if Almalexia has to try to be a bit, um, impartial.


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[Assistant] Or even wanting to kind of somehow preempt his, his rise to power and, and knock it out before it happens. Who knows? But yeah, it is an interesting story of.


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[Assistant] But back to the reason we talked about the Dwemer of them potentially being an offshoot of the Kaima. I mean, my thinking was, which, you know, may or may not be true, because there's a lot of time between when the Kaima move over and when the Heart of Lorkhan gets meddled with. But I kind of thought that perhaps Spawithia and the Good Daedra


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[Assistant] Wanted to send Lor- I mean, this goes back to that theory, but wanted to send Lorcan's Protectors there to preempt the possibility that the Dwemer were going to meddle with the heart of Lorcan.


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[Assistant] That's, as with all things, Dwemer and their origins, it's, you know, wild speculation at best.


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[Assistant] And you do see bits and pieces, like, obviously, excepting the, um, the, the shellbacks and stuff, you've got, what, Vivek summoning a tidal wave to stop an invasion and things like that. So they definitely flex their muscles occasionally. Oh, for sure.


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[Assistant] And as we touched on before, uhm, the reason...


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[Assistant] Part of the reason Tiber Septim had any success at all was because it was an awkward time where Dagoth Ur was re-emerging and kind of, um, causing their powers to wane a little bit. So, you know, the Empire definitely had a slightly better outcome because of that when dealing and creating the Armistice.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's funny when you cross the mountains, the Velofe Mountains, and you go from all of these unusual creatures and all this crazy flora and fauna to, you know, snowberries and wolves and bears and normal horses, but it's like, you know,


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[Assistant] Morrowind is the most padamaic corner of Tamriel and it seems to emanate from the heart of Lorca.


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[Assistant] As to be fair, obviously Skyrim was, uh, is described in much less generic terms before we actually saw it. And I, you know, that's not a criticism of Skyrim. It's just, you know, it was much more fantastical when you hear from Nords in Morrowind.


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[Assistant] Which is a bold move from the beginning, because you know, you know there's a lot of anti-imperial sentiment and if the imperials stop having an influence, which may happen, then you're a bit screwed.


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[Assistant] And, and either way, like, just generally speaking, no matter how well it's, um, implemented, they're straying just further and further away from the initial foundational ideas that kind of created their race to begin with, you know, and, um, coming back to,


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[Assistant] The crash of Bardow into Vivec City, which triggers the eruption of Red Mountain in the year five of the fourth era. It's like, this is kind of like the endpoint of their downfall, their gradual downfall that was promised after, you know, and then the Nerevarine prophecy happens, and now this, and then the Argonians thrust up from Black Marsh and take a load of Morrowind by storm.


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[Assistant] And they're, you know, they're about as far down as, as they could possibly be. It's time for a comeback.


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[Assistant] Scott, I think you've talked about this a fair bit before, um, in a couple of videos, but having 200 years in the fourth era kind of makes, makes the timeline a little bit awkward because you've got Red Mountain erupting and the cataclysm and everything that follows.


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[Assistant] And you've got this wave of Dunmer refugees, and you've got the, the, the province in general is in turmoil. And there are, I won't, I can't remember the exact source, but essentially there's a source coming out of, uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeah, you need much more power to be able to have that kind of institutional system in place.


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[Assistant] I think specifically with the tribunal I know they entered a golden age with the tribunal but they really were


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[Assistant] They were a curse on the Kaima people, and even though it was delayed onset, they ruined, uhm, this race.


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[Assistant] And really, the only redemption, I think, for the Dunmer is to essentially go back to their roots and to become the Chimer again, even if they're never forgiven enough to restore their golden skin. They essentially need to re-embrace Hiveloffy culture.


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[Assistant] And even then, I wouldn't say that having house culture goes against the good danger. It's purely, you know, usurping them. It was them being usurped that caused the downfall. Yeah.


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[Assistant] But there was the promise that it was always going to be temporary. They were never going to thrive forever.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well fair enough, I guess the one thing I would say then is that rather than, you know, rather than kind of treating the tribunal as Jesus in the sense that they were the kind of the natural follow on


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[Assistant] And that's the thing is you, you can, you know, I, me especially say all these nice things about the good Daedra, but really,