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[Assistant] That's the thing too, especially like I can speak for like when you're a young boy, you, you're really drawn. There's a part of you that wants to be aggressive. You want to be tough, but like, you know, um, NWA is like,


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[Assistant] It's unbelievable. Do you know, by the way, uhm, I always wonder this about, about hit songs. Do you feel like Hollis or Mary Mary or Beats of the Rhyme or whatever, any of these songs, do you ever leave and you're like, I don't know, maybe it'll be well received or do you feel like when you're done?


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[Assistant] Make sure, make sure you're right. Uhm, so this is what I want to ask though, because I think it resonates with anybody, you know, you remember being in college and your parents, so when you're like, I'm going to go on this tour, and your mom's like, motherfuck, and you know, she flips out.


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[Assistant] I just had a flashback of like being in, we moved a lot and we lived in Plymouth, Minnesota for a while, being in the basement of that house and getting like my boombox and just playing uh, Mary Mary like over and over. Why? That's a monkey song.


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[Assistant] Did you, by the way, was it, uhm, like, calculated? You're young. You're not that much older.


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[Assistant] How about all the, uh, people that mimic it, you know, like everybody-


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[Assistant] Obviously, uhm, you guys, you know, go on to become just these massive stars and we were talking before about the book and you're mentioning like drinking. Ten ways not to commit suicide.


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[Assistant] Wait, I gotta ask because you were, you became aware of it, you know, surprisingly later in life when you found out you were adopted, did you pursue finding your, you know, your biological...


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[Assistant] They won't be able to deal with those issues. It's gotta be wild, not that it's important to this, but it's gotta be wild to see that your son that you had to give up for adoption is


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[Assistant] Got you, but you're still, you're playing in that, I know you said you and Ron will still do like some, like through pride.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. This was like funny to me because I, I knew, like I was even saying, I go in the car today on the way here. I was like, you know, I've only seen him in interviews, but I go, I'm telling you, like the emcee is a good guy. This is one of the good guys.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah. I actually got to see him again, uhm, a few months ago, and he was like, keep a comment there. Big shout out, big shout out to him.


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[Assistant] Sandy, do you have one? I don't, no. Would you like one?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, it's just, uh, you know, I've been brushing up on YouTube's, uh, rules. And it doesn't matter if it's for education. Really? If it's for health purposes, if it's for art, showing balls will never fly. Really? Isn't that just so dumb?


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[Assistant] I don't blame you, but I'm like cool and hip and I like to keep up with stuff.


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[Assistant] I think so. That sounds like that's what happened. She was fucked.


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[Assistant] What happened with us was that we became the physical embodiment, the representatives of


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[Assistant] Hip-hop, prior to us, what we were doing, and where it was going. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And, you know, for me, I never wanted to be in show business. Really? Yes. Now, Ron, Ron saw hip hop grow up in his living room. His brother Russell,


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[Assistant] Before Rap Records was made, Russell was one of the promoters that saw the DJs in the streets of New York and was like, wow, every time they play the park or the block party, a thousand people shows up.


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[Assistant] So Russ, who wasn't the only one, but he was one of the promoters that said, yo, I'ma move this indoors. I'ma go rent the PAL.


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[Assistant] Give the PL his $100, pay the DJ $100, and then charge the people who are seeing it for free.


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[Assistant] Run was seeing that in his living room. Russell managed Curtis Blow, Godfather, Hip Hop, Jimmy Spicer, Houdini, he did shows, he worked with Grandmaster Flash and all that. So Run was a little kid seeing that this was a business.


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[Assistant] So Run was like, I could get rich and famous off this, I could make some money, I could get a mansion, a Rolls Royce, everything that you see Run doing now. He saw that hip hop was going to get him that. For me, hip hop was, it was make believe.


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[Assistant] What I mean by that was I was in the comic books. I went to catholic school my whole life.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? It started with Batman, then I discovered Marvel, Stan Lee, rest in peace, he was a genius, he puts his superheroes really in New York.


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[Assistant] Right. It made it real. Yeah. So my whole life prior to music,


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[Assistant] So that was my life. From kindergarten to seventh grade. Then in seventh grade, something crazy happened to me.


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[Assistant] This thing called hip hop comes over the bridge from the Bronx. Now I didn't know what it was at first. At the time, by the way, are you a music fan? Like do you like music? No, I can't. That's another funny question. I didn't have a music that was mine because my mother, when I was a kid, my mother and father were still young.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Stevie Wonder, soul music, yeaah, black soul music in the 70s, 60s and 70s, Motown, that was more than four of his music. Oh right, that's not yours. I'm a kid, I don't care nothing about love and girls, girls are yucky. How many comic books? So for me, the music, the only music that I thought was me was


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[Assistant] Classic rock, so-called classic rock now, and folk rock.


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[Assistant] Seventies, the Beatles, the Stones, Harry Chapin, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, uh, Jim Croce. You're getting into all this. Crosby, Stills, Young and Nass, Zeppelin, right, because soul music, and even at the time in the seventies, disco,


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[Assistant] That was the adult, that was, you know, the grown up things to do. As a kid I didn't have the music, but when I heard rock, there was just something about the rock drums was heavier.


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[Assistant] And then the folk music was like social studies or history in school. Because even though these dudes were big rock stars.


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[Assistant] Most of the music was about politics. You know, Neil Young, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, they were talking about the government and women's rights and silver. So the rock and the folk rock guys were singing, in addition to singing


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[Assistant] About sex and loves and drugs. He was thinking about stuff that I could relate to as a student.


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[Assistant] Um, cassette, remember the flat, not box or boombox.


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[Assistant] Flat cassette tape recorder. Remember those things? So this kid named Billy Morris had one and Billy was in 8th grade. So me and two other of my friends from St. Pascoe Bayline Elementary School, we was in the schoolyard playing basketball on a one rim.


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[Assistant] That's a school, the Catholic school, eh, cause you gotta understand some.


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[Assistant] If you go to Catholic school, you can't go to the public park. Cause you got a bag that says...


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[Assistant] We probably wouldn't have did nothing, but if he tries anything, we're gonna jump his ass. So we walk over to Billy, and Billy just says, he pulls his tape recorder out of his tote bag and says, check this out. And he pushes play.


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[Assistant] And then a voice goes, when you mess around in New York town, you go down with the disco Chiba clown, you go down, you just keep the pep in your step, you don't stop till you get on the mountaintop, and when you reach the top, you reach your peak, that's when you hear Eddie Chiba speak, and it stopped.


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[Assistant] And it was all staticky and stuff like that. We said do that again! He did it again. We stood in that screw yard for three hours listening to...


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[Assistant] Whatever that was, I didn't know what it was, but it just felt so good.


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[Assistant] What the fuck is this man? Exactly. Right? It blew your mind. It was just, it was just my DNA structure, every molecular. It's crazy. It was just me and then I just hit Billy with the yo, can I hold that?


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying this and then I was like, yo, Billy man, you can have my mother. I'll give you the keys to my father's car. You can take over. So, but he saw that I really wanted it. So it was a Friday afternoon.


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[Assistant] Cause that little thing, it was just that experience. I didn't know what it was, but Friday night all the way to Sunday, gave it back to Billy, it was gone. But because of that tape, now I notice.


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[Assistant] Summertime, because of the tape, I started to notice...


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[Assistant] The music was so loud, but I'm a kid. Life is adventurous. I don't care about this. But because of the tape, now I'm noticing the DJ's DJing in the park and stuff like that. So that was...


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[Assistant] The DJs are doing the parks and the block parties. So now the older kids...


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[Assistant] All wanna be like the DJs in the neighborhood now. Right. So Booby Long.


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[Assistant] And Anthony Wallace was the first two older kids in my neighborhood to get turntables and stuff like that. So my brother, who wrote, ran with Booby and him, wanted to get turntables. So he had a problem. He had a problem.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? So my brother, he had to get turntables like Bull B and Anthony.


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[Assistant] So he comes up with this idea, yo Darryl come here, come here little bro. We gonna do a comic book sale.


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[Assistant] So we could get enough money to get two turntables and a mixer. And I'm like, okay, cool.


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[Assistant] So we do a comic book sale and check this, this is why the story's significant. So we make our own flyers with the loose leaf paper. The McDaniels brothers are doing a comic book sale. You know what I'm saying? So the doorbell's ringing.


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[Assistant] We pullin' in some money, you know, nine dollars, ten dollars. We just need, we needed a forty dollar mixer and we needed a thirty dollar turntable to go with the hi-fi stereo set that our parents already had.


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[Assistant] So the doorbell was ringing kids from all over the neighborhoods coming. The doorbell rings are opening and it's Joseph Simmons, the kid from the other class, administering arrow.


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[Assistant] So me and my brother, we get to two turntables and uhm, we get to mix it. So now we got our own set in the basement, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't as expensive as the dudes that were selling weed. They had the, the, the, the quanters and the techniques and stuff like that. We had some bullshit fake wood BSRs, but we was able to do the hip-hop thing. So my brother brings home rapper's delight.


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[Assistant] Light blue, with the rainbow on it. Oh, what the hell is that? Hip hop, hip hip, it was a long ass record too. So long, fucking 15 minutes. They're shit there, real long. So me being a smart kid, you know what I'm saying, cause I got an imagination for comic books and I'm, you know, I'm a good student cause I'm reading the comic books.


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[Assistant] I listened to Rappers Delight two or three times, and the only reason I cared about it was because of the Superman rhyme.


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[Assistant] Talking about Superman. So that made it cool. So I learned rappers alike from beginning to end. So now in a neighborhood that creates a problem.


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[Assistant] Cause now, if it's not on the radio, if it's not a block party, all the bully kids, DARRELL COME OVER HERE MOTHERFUCKER! SING RAPPERS ALIGHT!


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[Assistant] But that's what I thought when you said it. No, Joseph Simmons. Me and Runn wasn't friends when we was little. He was just, we went to the same school, he was always in the other class. You're in the same school. He's in the other, I was always in the smart class.


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[Assistant] Rappers of Light came out in 79. So that went down, I got Rappers of Light, and then, uhm, I heard on a cassette tape


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[Assistant] A live performance of this DJ called Grandmaster Flash.


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[Assistant] I was just pretending to be that I don't do this.


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[Assistant] So then my brother brings home this red, cause remember Rappers Delight was light blue with the rainbow on it. It's very attractive when you look at the Sugar Hill logo.


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[Assistant] Then my brother comes home with just this bland, red labeled record that said enjoy record.


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[Assistant] You know what it said? Grandmaster Flash. Oh, that's the guy from the TV thing. In the Furries 5.


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[Assistant] I was like, what the hell is that about? So, we put the needle on it. Now remember, we talked about Rappers Alight was three guys rapping long. One guy rap an hour, next guy rap an hour, other guy rap an hour, other guy rap another hour, and then it's over.


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[Assistant] But this record, I put the needle on this, it's a grand master flash and a freeze fly. You know, with the dust.


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[Assistant] And then the third dude said Raheem and all the ladies dream. And then the fourth dude said cowboy and I make it jump for joy. And then the fifth dude said Creole. And then the other four dudes said solid gold. Kid Creole.


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[Assistant] That's a good name. I like it. It's really good. Yea, EZD is a good name. So, I became Grandmaster, Get High, and EZD. All in one. Right, so here's where Run comes in. In 8th grade, we in 8th grade now. Remember the one rim in the school yard? Yea.


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[Assistant] In eighth grade, out of nowhere. I mean, I made it from kindergarten all the way to eighth grade without any new students coming to the school.


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[Assistant] All of a sudden in eighth grade, this guy, David McEachin, I'll never forget, this new student comes, he's seven feet tall. He probably wasn't that tall, but he was like taller than Jabbar, but he was. He wasn't, but he was to us. Right.


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[Assistant] He dumps on the one rim in the schoolyard and he breaks it. Whoa.


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[Assistant] So we, oh, that was incredible. No, we cry. We can't go to the park now, but hold on, behold, I got the best parents ever. My father put a basketball room in my backyard.


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[Assistant] So now the kids, usually 10, 11, 12 kids would come to my backyard to play basketball after school.


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[Assistant] One particular day, Joseph Simmons comes alone with his basketball and his curly hair.


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[Assistant] Right. So this particular day, cause usually I bring the water out, give the kids in the back and go home. This particular week, it was just Joe, I let him in the house to get the water. It was 3.30, my parents didn't get home until 4. Come on in and get the water. So when he comes in, he sees me and my brother's turntables. And he goes, yo, do you do that? And I go, no.


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[Assistant] And then he goes, yo, my brother's Russell Simmons. You ever see the rush flyers that's up on the telephone poles? And I'm like, yeah, I see that. Well, my brother, he works with flash and this. So now it's becoming interesting. So he's telling me about when I was 12 years old.


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[Assistant] When it was in school during the summertime, Russell would allow Run to go rap and play and DJ on a Curtis Blow show.


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[Assistant] Run was the son of Curtis Blow, 12 years old. Curtis Blow would go, I'ma break my disco son DJ Run out here and he's gonna put on a show for you. Come on in. And Run would come out at 12 years old, say a rhyme and DJ's cutest thing in the world. Cause you remember, if you remember hip hop, hip hop was a hybrid of disco.


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[Assistant] The early, the fat boys, before they were the fat boys, was the Disco 3.


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[Assistant] And it died that day, but another man's trash is, trash isn't, one man's trash is another man's trash. They threw away all that music and the DJs hopped it up because it was always bass lines for the rappers and the MCs to say on. So Rum was, Curtis blows disco son, he's telling me all of that. So what we would do is, he would come to my house, we get out of school two ten.


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[Assistant] We'd get to my house, this five minute walk by 2.15, play basketball till 3.15, and then from 3.15,


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[Assistant] He picks up my school books who I was writing my rhymes at, and he was like, yo Daryl, you wrote all of this? And I was like, yeaah, it's like a hobby. And I was like, yo, this is really good. And then he looks at me, this is in 8th grade, and he goes,


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[Assistant] When my brother Russell lets me make a record, I'm putting you in my group.


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[Assistant] So 9th grade, we graduated from St. Pascoe, Bayline. Run, and soon to be our DJ later, Jason Marzell, Jam Master Jay.


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[Assistant] I took three trains and two buses to travel from Queens all the way to Harlem to go to an all-boys Catholic high school called Rice High School, 124th Street and Lennox Avenue in Harlem.


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[Assistant] So, 9th grade, 10th grade, 11th grade, 12th grade, I'm a good student, fine colors, I send out my resume, I get accepted to St. John's University.


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[Assistant] I come home, I pick the letter up, it says, you were proud to inform you have been accepted to prestigious St. John's University.


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[Assistant] So, that was June of 82. That was the class of 82. Graduated June of 82. In August of 82, the phone rings. It's Joe.


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[Assistant] Yo, remember four years ago when I said if I make a record, I'm putting you in the group? Yeah. Grab your rhyme books. We're going to the studio to make a record. So we went to the studio and we made it like that. It's like that. And that's the way it is.


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[Assistant] Being in a studio, and this is how crazy I am now to this day. When I first went, cause remember I was just doing it in my basement. So when RUN took me, they took me to Green Street Recording Studio.


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[Assistant] When Joe, when Joe put me in the group, Joe, Joe, he saw, okay this guy, he saw, okay this guy.


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[Assistant] He writes really good rhymes. He got all of these fucking comic books so he must have an imagination. And he got good grades. So he's smart. He's not gonna fuck all of them. So originally Run was gonna be a solo artist, but he saw that I had something that could assist with his journey.


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[Assistant] That wasn't until after we made it's like that in circumcise. Okay, but they wasn't even in 4k. They know each other though, right? Yea, Ron and Jay know each other from playing basketball in the parks and Ron would go get on the mic at the block party.


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[Assistant] Uhm, uhm, uhm, Jay didn't come til later, so we, we did it like that, we did succumsees, and uhm, we put the, we get a record deal.


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[Assistant] So Russell goes, okay y'all, you know, we got a record deal on profile record. The record comes out. I was actually in my, I was in my second semester at St. John's University.


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[Assistant] Now to me, it's done. We made the demo, I'ma shop it. The only goal back then was to get the record played on Mr. Magic or Red Alert. Because remember, kids...


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[Assistant] I blow kids minds. I speak at a lot of middle schools and high schools. I said, y'all don't understand some hip hop was only on the radio Friday and Saturday night.


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[Assistant] And LA had it a little better than us cause y'all had K-Day.


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[Assistant] Where it came from and we didn't have it, it was only Friday and Saturday nights. So the goal was to get Mr. Magic a red alert to play the record. So that happened for us.


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[Assistant] Because, not because I wanted to be business management, my best friend growing up was this guy named Douglas Hayes.


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[Assistant] Um, but it came up along with Mark Jackson, infamous Mark Jackson from the Knicks, St. John's University, Chris Mullin.


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[Assistant] So people would come to the parks to see Mark play and score 40, but they, cause Mark was JV, junior varsity, Doug was varsity, people would wait to see Butter score 50. So Butter was my best friend from kindergarten all the way up till we got to college.


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[Assistant] This ain't like school, it's not like high school. Why? In college nobody helps you.


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[Assistant] I was alone on a campus at St. John's University, scared to death. The first thing I did, I ran to the payphone.


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[Assistant] Call butter up. Yo Doug, it's the first day of school where you at.


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[Assistant] So I'm scared to death. Yeah. I don't like accounting. I don't like bookkeeping. I don't like nothing that has to do with, um, business management. So I go.


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[Assistant] Damn, I gotta change my major. My mother gonna hate my ass. You know what I'm saying? Cause my thing was, all I can do is draw. I didn't even think about music. I didn't say I'm a great writer. All I can re-


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[Assistant] What can you do, Darrell? I can draw comic books and cartoons really good. So I was gonna change my major to anything that had to do with art. Graphic design, architecture.


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[Assistant] Oh no, no, but here's the worst thing. And if I don't like that, I'm dropping out of school and I'm gonna just draw the funnies in the local newspaper. Oh my God. So that's where I was at. I come home and I'm like, Hey mom.


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[Assistant] Remember that day in August, I came home two in the morning, cause when we, I don't, when I went to record, it's like the uncertainties, I didn't tell my parents. I came home two in the morning and everyone's like, where was your ass at? I was there, cause we wouldn't even go in my basement of Joel's attic.


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[Assistant] No, first I said uhm, I'm gonna change my major. I don't wanna do business management. So my father, rest in peace, was like, oh, really? So what do you wanna do? My mother, she start doing this.


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[Assistant] My mother was a motherfucker and then I hit away. And if that don't work, I'ma just drop out of school and, and draw the comics in the local newspaper. You told them. Yeah. And my mother raised hell. Like right now I'm scared of Christmas.


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[Assistant] Calm down, woman. This and that. Get your ass back up. So I go upstairs and I'm sitting there like, oh shit. Fuck it up. This and that.


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[Assistant] Phone rings again. It's Joe again. Yo, Wrestle got us a deal, we on profile records, this and that, boom bang. The record's not only playing on Red Alert and Mr. Magic, it's playing across the country. Pack your bag, we're going on tour to do shows. And he hangs up and I'm sitting there.


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[Assistant] Yo, we going on a tour, we got shows coming in North Carolina, and this and that, I still ain't tell my parents. I'm like, fuck it. You know, wait.


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[Assistant] We used to take all your records and scratch them up and you used to get mad. Yeaah, well now, you know that record, Rapper's Delight? Yeaah. My father was like, yeaah, they play that at my job, all that. Cause my father worked for Transits. All the young people was playing it. My mother ain't know nothing about this shit. Well, uhm, I have one of those. The name of the group is Run DMC and we have a hip hop record and this and that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I heard a red alert. Motherfucker, my mom start cursing this and that boom boom bang song. I run back upstairs and I'm sitting here. So Joe calls. This is what saved me. Yo, we got our first show booked in North Carolina. They paying us $1,500.


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[Assistant] So I get an idea. Alright, let me go try this. I go downstairs and say, Mark, here's the deal.


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[Assistant] Our first show's for $1500. Russ- Run said that Russell's gonna book us some more shows.


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[Assistant] Here's the deal, whatever money, now I'm not thinking career.


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[Assistant] Whatever money I make this summer from doing the performances for my records, I'll use my own money to pay for my own tuition at school.


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[Assistant] No, it, the first, it was, we was tearing shit up. Really? Nobody's never seen the lack of us. Cause you gotta understand, you said it on air, early hip hop was based on disco.


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[Assistant] The real pun is, is everybody who did it before Rapids Delight was even recorded.


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[Assistant] So when they did stop make, when they came in to show business them, the first rappers had no rappers to look up to.


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[Assistant] But Parliament Funkadelic and the Rolling Stones.


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[Assistant] So that's where their attire came, and all the disco records, Donna Summer and the Tramps and the Commodores and all. So their idols in the show business world was dumb, so that's who they were trying to emulate. When me and Run came along, we didn't dress up, we dressed like we dressed when we were kids.


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[Assistant] We wore the Adidas to the break dancers. So when the world saw us, that was new. And not only that, we didn't make disco records.


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[Assistant] When the DJ's would play the break beats, James Brown was always getting played. Cause he always had a funky drummer break for the MC to say their rap on. Disco!


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[Assistant] Sheek, good toms, all the disco records always had a bass line. Heartbeat boom, boom, boom.


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[Assistant] You know, there was always a bass line. Um, jazz records. Always had a break.


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[Assistant] But those rock records also had a break where it was just drums or drums and guitar.


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[Assistant] Prior, this is 83, 82, 83, 84, 85, before we even thought of doing Walk This Way over,


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[Assistant] That's what, the one that goes, kssssst, dead, dead.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Aerosmiths, number four. Hehehe. No, not even Aerosmiths. Toys in the Attic was the album. Toys in the Attics, number four.


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[Assistant] Melly Mal, Kumo D, all your old school rappers, they the ones that gave us the blueprint. What we did that was genius was we started doing it on records.


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[Assistant] Melly Mel did, you could go to, you could punch in, you could go to YouTube right now listeners and punch in, Flash, Mel and Scorp kill it 1978. And a live performance of Melly Mel and Scorpio rhyming over Walk This Way. Really? 78. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] So that's where we got it. What we did that was genius, we started doing it on records. So we did Rockbox.


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[Assistant] Because Walk This Way isn't the first rock rap record. It's a tongue twister. Walk This Way isn't the first rock rap record. The first rock rap record is Rock Box, which was the first rap video on MTV. Was it really? Yeah, yeah, 1984. Holy shit.


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[Assistant] By us putting the rocket cars on it, it got us on MTV.


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[Assistant] And that's when, when it, when, when we took it into every living room that had MTV, that was the catalyst that brought about the 80s, 90s, all the way up to now.


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[Assistant] Well, yeah, well, 1984 we did Rock Box, which was a rock track where me and Rindis rhyming about how good we are.


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[Assistant] Opening it up, giving a dialogue. Remember Professor Erwin Corey from the movie Car Wash? He was the guy with the piss.


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[Assistant] The Mad Bomber was a little unloosening in the nation and then he came in and he fit the description so called, Professor Norrin Corey was a comedian, actor, famous throughout the 60s, 70s, 80s, whatever, whatever. So that was Rockbox 84. That got hip hop on MTV. In everybody's living room, across the nation.


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[Assistant] He was our producer at the time. So we was gonna sample it, but Rick goes, no.


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[Assistant] You should do it over the way the band originally did it. Jam Master Jay, rest in peace. Yo, that's a great idea. Me and Run, hold the fuck up!


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[Assistant] Slow down, you're taking this rock rap thing too far. Cause rock rap to us was rock beat with me and Run talking about how good we are. And I still remember my lyrics. We was going to sample it. Keep the beat going, guitars, beat going, loop it. And I was going to go, cause we started in 83.


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[Assistant] So my rap was, I'm DMC and the place to be been rhymin' on a mic since 83. I'm the best MC in history and there will never be an MC better than me. And then run was supposed to go, and you know DJ run, run DMC style. I'm DJ run and I'm number one here to get it done and have some fun. Let the party be gunned with all of that. That's how it was supposed to go.


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[Assistant] Rick and Russell, I mean Rick and Jay, nah, nah, y'all gotta learn number fucking four.


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[Assistant] He takes the record off the turntable, gives us one of those, a yellow notepad and a big ballpoint pen. Go in the basement, put the needle on the record and let it play. The reason why that's significant is the DJ's never let the whole song play.


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[Assistant] So we go in the basement, I put the needle on the racket.


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[Assistant] I took the whole second verse, give Steve a third when we outta here.


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[Assistant] They didn't know the version that you're hearing.


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[Assistant] They literally chained us to the studio and said y'all will never leave until you make this song a perfect song. Really?


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[Assistant] We thought we had power. It was Russell and Lior Cohen and the record company and our publicist and, um, everybody from our record label and they all happy. We said, y'all can be happy as y'all want. True story. We go, y'all better never put this record out. You say that. You could put it on the album, but you're never, you're better never put this record out. And the moral to that story is.


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[Assistant] Always be open to try something new because not only will it change your life, it could change the world. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Because they released the record, then we did the phenomenal video.


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[Assistant] And Stephen takes the mic stand and knocks the wall that was separating the rock. People say, yo, when Stephen Tyler did that in the video, that didn't just happen in the video, it happened in the world. It brought rock and rap together, which was separate. Black people and white people together did a lot.


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[Assistant] Well, no, no, no. Stephen Tyler and Anjo Perry were very, very, uhm, courteous. They were very humble. You know, at that time, they was...


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[Assistant] Because of prior circumstances, nobody cared.


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[Assistant] Like, Aerosmith has a soul, nope, we don't care, it's bullshit.


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[Assistant] Hey guys, some guy named Rick Rubin is on the phone saying he wants to do Run The MC, y'all guys wanna do it? And at that point, Stephen Jo was like, what do we got to lose? So they came to New York, did the record, came back and did the video. They were very, very


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[Assistant] They don't rap about skills, they don't rap about goodness, they don't rap about honesty. And that's not just the music. Here in America,


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[Assistant] They use negativity and disrespect as a form of power.


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[Assistant] So everything that we created, hip-hop, sodas, kids, should not have to be, is being celebrated now.


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[Assistant] There was death, destruction, and darkness in the Bronx. The Bronx was burning.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Yeaah. I lived in Queens. It was a little safer where I lived. I used to have to leave my block and walk up to the main strip to see the pimps hole, pimps, drug pitchers and the prostitutes.


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[Assistant] The Bronx was a war zone, heroin, it was burning. But these young boys and girls who lived in hell were making such inspiration, they were telling us go to school. They were gangbangers and drug dealers saying not to gangbang and not to sell drugs. So for me that blew my mind.


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[Assistant] Cool Mo D was in a group called The Treacherous Three, and at the time it was Mo D, Meli Mel, they made the message.


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[Assistant] Uh, Africa Bamban and Zulu Nation made planet rock. Yeaah, our lives are shit. But we have a vision that there could be a world where everybody's together and we're not fighting and everybody's eating. That's a big vision I have.


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[Assistant] So that was impressive to me. I thought I was all Mr. Smartypants Catholic school kids straight A's. These kids had nothing and still had the same things that I had.


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[Assistant] So when I started making my records, one of the things that I wanted to make the world understand


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[Assistant] Even in a dirt port ghetto, there's goodness. It's the good things.


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[Assistant] The kids that were selling drugs and then gangs, when my record dropped, and this was out, this was just radio playing Friday and Saturday night.


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[Assistant] When my record dropped, the kids in my neighborhood came to me, Darren, how the hell do you rap in hip hop?


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[Assistant] I went to Catholic school my whole life. I was a straight A student, this and that. And they're like, man, you got a big ass gold chain and you got a Mercedes Benz, you got Adidas and shit like that. So that inspired some of the dudes actually told me, yo D, man, I went and got a GED just cause you said it. That's cool. And with the GED, I was able to take courses at the community college.


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[Assistant] And now I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer, I'm a journalist, I'm a playwright. So, we knew that positivity was gangster.


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[Assistant] It used to just be, well, God told me, look, it used to just be Ben Crosby and Nat King Cole. Those were the two, what, um, Ben Crosby's was, uhm, uhm, I'm dreaming of a white, oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] But it was all pretend. Right. I didn't know it was a manifest. What really made me want to be the king of rock. And then, you know, when I did my 86, I did son of Byford, brother of Al. Ben was my mother. I was sitting there one day and I was like,


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[Assistant] Thor is the son of Odin from Asgard. He got a brother named Loki. That's true story, that's a hammer. That's Thor in the Marvel Universe. And I said in this universe, I'm Daryl.


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[Assistant] I got a fiver named Bifruit, my brother's name is Alfred, and I got a mate.


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[Assistant] So I said, I'ma become son of Byford, brother of Al. Ben is my mother and runs my pal. It's McDaniel's, not McDonald's. These rhymes are Daryl's, those burgers are Ronald's. I ran down my family tree, my mother.


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[Assistant] So it was me pretending to be this super powered individual in this universe of hip hop. That was my thing. I had no idea.


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[Assistant] Where it's DMC but in that world I'm not a super powered rapper, I'm actually a teacher who has super powers running around fighting all the bad guys. It's unbelievable.


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[Assistant] For me, it was never from the song standpoint. For me, it's when I do this shit live, motherfuckers ain't gonna wanna get on the mic.


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[Assistant] Like his plan is like, you know, it's tricky to rock a rhyme. I wanted to make records at 8 years old that I could still do at 80, the same way that I made it when I was 8.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying, a lot of hip hop songs, like a lot of hip hop songs, the dudes don't even look right rapping them now. Yes.


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[Assistant] Songwriters. Now, if I would have made gangsta rap records, if I would have made those type of records, like, listen, I got a million rhymes about all that shit for all you rappers out there that don't think I can fucking be harder than all your punk motherfuckers.


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[Assistant] I can't do a rhyme about Old English cause all the kids will want to drink it cause I'm cool. I did a song about my sneakers. Look what happened. Yeah. Right. You know what I'm saying? No curls, no braids. Peezy head and still get paid. I am the reason why Yeezys can get made. Like we made that record, now motherfuckers can get sneaker deals.


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[Assistant] A dollar fifteen, that's a long time ago. That is the price. That's not too much if you want to get nice. You pay your money, you walk out the door, then you say to yourself, I remember that store.


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[Assistant] You look around for a place to stand with a 40 of old English in your hand. You crack the court, you put it to your lip, you tilt it slightly and you take a sip. Now by now you should know the deal because that one sip you already feel. You feeling bold, you try to guzzle, you finish it off, but it ain't no puzzle. And then I've had something, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uhm, it wasn't until, I would say, for my parents, it probably wasn't until the gold chain, yeaah. It probably wasn't until the 90s where they knew.


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[Assistant] They're not thinking show, but they're worried. Save your money and stuff like that. People are like, you got any regrets? I said yes, I would. The only regret I have is I want to spend so much fucking money on coke.


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[Assistant] A monkey song, Tricky, is actually my Sharona mixed with Tony Basil's Hey Mickey.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we didn't invent shit, we reinvented everything. Right, right. Right. So for us, my thing was find, and this is what the early hip-hop has taught me, find melodies from those folk songs or those classic rock songs that you could turn into yours over some badass beats.


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[Assistant] And that, see, it was different. We studied the people, we didn't just steal the music though. We studied who we sampled.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? There's no way. And when we got induction in 2009, the heads of the Rock and Roll of Fame called me, Jaryl, come here, we have to tell you something. Cause it was me and Run cause Jay had passed away already.


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[Assistant] You guys were prophetic. I was like, what you talking about? It was like, in 1985, you did a video about you getting, being denied entry into the Rockwell Hall of Fame and you're fucking crashing the door.


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[Assistant] And you'll pull the plug on Jerry Lee Lewis. Throw the hat on the Beatles. We take Michael Jackson's glove. It's in the video for the whole world to see. Off it's stand in all of it's glory. Run throws it on the ground and there's a close up of Mardita stepping on it.


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[Assistant] They said y'all did that video in the Rock and Roll of Fame and it didn't start till 86.


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[Assistant] So now you got the whole thing with rap shouldn't be in here. And I remember when Gene Simmons was saying what he said, I always have a habit of saying shit that make everybody curse me out.


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[Assistant] Like, I don't have a lot of followers, I don't get a lot of likes and views, but this day I was like, I can agree with what Gene Simmons is saying.


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[Assistant] My time, motherfucka, fuck you, Darryl, fuck you, motherfucka, that's why I never liked you and I like Run, baby, fuck your motherfuck, this and that. But Gene Simmons said the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, true story, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was originally for rock bands. But if Gene Simmons saying that, so then it should be the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for rock, so-called rock and roll bands.


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[Assistant] Then you gotta have Annex for soul music, but that means James Brown don't get it?


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[Assistant] Right, no drums, no guitar. If you play a fucking flute. Right. Tom, if you play a flute.


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[Assistant] And you fuckin' sell out the coliseum, you a fuckin' rock star. Yeah, bro. Yeah, yeah. So that's what they're basin' on, but I couldn't understand what Gene Simmons said, cause they don't play fuckin' instruments. His whole thing.


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[Assistant] The musician thing, the band thing, you know, rock started with the band thing, but you gotta let the, the people think Run DMC, this is another thing I hate. They think that we was the first for everything, but not everything. Grandmaster Flash in the first five is the first to be inducted in the Rockwell Hall of Fame because of the message.


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[Assistant] That record is so, that shit is right up there with Led Zeppelin, Paul McCartney, all of that shit. Broken Glass, every, the sound of it, that shit is a fucking work of art, so it deserves to be in the rock world of fame. So when we went in,


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[Assistant] We had rock guitar, all my hits are rock records. Rockbox, King of Rock, Walk This Way. That's interesting. All rock records. Tricky.


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[Assistant] And Mary Mary, all my hits. That's why I said I'm the king of rock. I don't want to be the king of rap. Why do you want to, even back then all rappers do these dee dee dee dee.


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[Assistant] Banter back and forth about who's better and stuff like that. So I didn't want to be the king of rock. Me as a kid, my vision wasn't to be better than Melly Mel and Jay-Z and Eminem. Me as a kid, my vision...


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[Assistant] It's to, even now, my vision is to go, I'm going for fucking Mick Jagger's jugular. When I fucking walk in the room, it's me pretending though, really not just me. Michael Jackson better fucking bow.


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[Assistant] Fuck Michael Jackson and his bullshit thriller, but on the record we had to say it's not Michael Jackson and this is not thriller. I originally wrote my rhymes like that. I wrote a lot of rhymes with the fucking I'm the Hulk combined with Thanos.


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[Assistant] Because Thanos beat the Hulk up in Infinity War, which killed me. I don't like nobody that did that. Yeaah. But there was a reason Thanos is still titan and this and that, but when the Hulk got his ass kicked and that. So now, when I was on the mic, I was Hulk, Thor, and Captain America combined.


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[Assistant] So now, at this point in my life, I'm Hulk Thor, Captain America, and Thanos.


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[Assistant] So that, you know, my, my, my, we are all products of pop culture.


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[Assistant] You know, when you look at me, I'm not just my adidas and walk this way, I'm Fred Flintstone. I'm the Munsters, I'm the Jetsons, I'm I Dream, I'm all in itself. That's who I am. So I draw from those things even now at 55, because they were so important to my life.


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[Assistant] My whole life was, I mean, I may, I always tell people, go home and ask, who in hip hop made Glasses cool?


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[Assistant] Oh no, it's, it's, it's, it's still great. And now, you would think that it would ruin us. Cause it's so bootlegged and so.


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[Assistant] Run race, run Obama, whatever, run chicken, run, the dogs now go online, the dogs are wearing the shirts and all that, but people told me, it's now,


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[Assistant] Ten Ways Not To Commit Suicide. They had all caught up with me. Uhm, 1993. In the 80's we changed the world. Right.


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[Assistant] Corn, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, Kid Rock said Run DMC and Aerosmith had a baby and I popped out.


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[Assistant] Corn, Limp Bizkit, all of that exploding. So now we're in the game, but we used to be the it. But we still respect it.


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[Assistant] You know, Pioneers, everybody showed Biggie, Pac, Puffy, all showing us love. But we're not on MTV no more, we're not on the radio. Pete Rock, C.L. Smooth, they reminisce.


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[Assistant] They killin'. Nordy by Nature's killin', Q-tip drive killin'. Pete Rock produces us a song called Down with the King on a new album that we're putting out in 1993.


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[Assistant] So man, he's great. If not, one of the, if not the greatest, this is debatable, producer ever. He produces a song down with the King Force, which does for Run DMC, what people say Walk This Way did for Aerosmith. It brought us back.


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[Assistant] Down with the key! In the 90s and now every- we old too! Now the motherfuckers is really scared to get on the mic.


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[Assistant] Cause we back in the 80's, soon as that record dropped, I woke up wanting to kill myself.


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[Assistant] Paydays was bigger, we was headlining, we was opening, we was opening for Pock and Biggie, opening for, uhm, Naughty Mountain Nature, busting everybody's ass, people realizing we cannot put them on a show with anybody, go on tour yourself, so life is good. Now it's the 90s! We're getting 90s payday now!


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[Assistant] Cause usually the 80's guys get lower paydays cause they used to be hot so you got- Now we getting the 90's payday! I woke up and there was just something inside of me. It was this void in me.


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[Assistant] And everybody was pining their legend down without taking the tours. I had to, I had Rhyme of the Year where I said, uhm, uhm, only G.O.D. could be a king but me, and if the G.O.D. be in me then oh shit, DMC's the best ever. All of that.


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[Assistant] Nah, I wanted to kill myself. And it got to the point where I sat there one day and it was just the dread of life on me and I was like, oh shit, what the fuck is going on?


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[Assistant] Okay, calm down. I'm Daryl McDaniels from Hollis, Queens, New York.


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[Assistant] Byford's my father, Banner's my mother, Alfred's my brother, Runnin' Jay are my friends.


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[Assistant] I made it to St. John's University. We made one fucking record. It was a hit. We made another record. It was a hit. We made an album. We went gold.


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[Assistant] I went through my whole life, my Adidas deal, so why I'm down with the King of Zelle, why am I feeling like this? I didn't know what it was. The void got so uncomfortable that I wanted to take my life because I couldn't live with it. It was so painful, it was like, what the fuck is this? I don't want to live no more. So I was getting ready to jump off a roof in Yugoslavia. And right when I was getting ready to jump, someone said, stop, wait, you can't jump yet.


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[Assistant] Cause people know the DMC story. It's two books on us behind the music. Or you could wikipedia and google me. But nobody knows the little boy Daryl who made this DMC thing possible.


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[Assistant] So, before I kill myself, I want to write a book, and I want to go, What's up, world? I'm Daryl McDaniels from the groundbreaking rap group Run DMC. Blah-z-blah, this is Pahalis Queens, New York. I was born May 31st, 1964.


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[Assistant] And when I got to that part of my identity, I was like, oh, I know my birthday, but I don't know no details.


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[Assistant] So I'm gonna call my mom up just to get some more details just to make it more interesting for the reader.


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[Assistant] So I go, Ma, how much did I wait? She told me. What time I was born? She told me. What hospital? She told me. Hung up the phone.


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[Assistant] Hour later, uh, hang up. Hour later, my mother and father calls back. At this point in my life, I'm an alcoholic, suicidal, metaphysical, spiritual wreck who don't know what the fuck is going on with me that's about to scale itself. We have something else to tell you.


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[Assistant] So I thought it was gonna be something simple like, oh, it was a snowstorm and the power went out and they still gave birth to you. They hit me with this. 1993. Depressed. Suicidal.


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[Assistant] So, you can imagine what happened to my whole being right then and there.


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[Assistant] So, Jack Daniels and, um, Jim Beam become my friends. I'm fucking drinking 24-7.


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[Assistant] No, no, this, this, I had stopped drinking the OE in, um, 91. Oh. Because I got acute pancreatitis and I almost died. And when I got out there, I was in a hospital for a month and a half. This is what happened. I was in a hospital for a month and a half.


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[Assistant] And the doctor said, son, you cannot be drinking a fucking case of old English today. You have two choices. When you get out to this hospital, you can drink and die or not drink and live. So, for,


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[Assistant] Cold turkey, I stopped drinking. When I found out that I was adopted, I started drinking again, this and that, just now I'm gonna kill myself, all of this.


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[Assistant] But then something happened with the revelation of your adopter, because then I found out I was a foster kid.


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[Assistant] All of this, so I'm dealing with all of that and then someone signed me and said, yo, I gotta, I gotta find out what, what this is all about. So that was a catalyst to get me to go to rehab.


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[Assistant] Felt isolated, felt something wrong with me, like little kids, why this, why this, am I not good enough, this and that, why I can't be real. But I had the best mother and father ever, because even my therapist said, motherfucker, you rhymed about them all through your whole fucking career. So your spirit and your being knew who your mother and father was, you just had this other mystery. But the thing that brung everything together was,


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[Assistant] A famous adopted lady who wasn't celebrity. We just said she's famous because of what she said. She said the reason why an adoptee or an orphan or a foster kid should search for their biological parents besides medical.


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[Assistant] Now you gotta understand, my father Beifer was diabetic. So from when I was summer jobs all the way up to college, when I filled out a form,


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[Assistant] No, I'ma bifin' and bannin' as my mother father, but in the back of my mind is, who is my birth mother? Where'd I come?


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[Assistant] But this lady said, the reason why you should do it is cause of this. And I said, what? And she said, I never said this. This blew my mind.


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[Assistant] Oh, you wanna write a book, motherfucker? You never start a book from chapter two. See those books behind you? You don't pick the book up and start reading.


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[Assistant] Daryl McDaniels, the third member of Run DMC, all of that, that void came at the rebirth of my power to let me know I was living my life from chapter 2. That's why I was doing all the drinking.


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[Assistant] There was something with the old English 40s I was trying to fill.


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[Assistant] But I didn't find none of that out until I went to rehab. So I said, okay, let me go get sober. So I could deal with all of this. I really, I didn't want to, when I went to rehab,


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[Assistant] I discovered the most powerful thing that I ever did in my life. Besides make my adidas and walk this way. I discovered therapy.


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[Assistant] I discovered this thing called therapy and a lot of men. Love it. You know what I'm saying? And it's men in general. A lot of black men, all these black motherfuckers are friends. You know motherfuckers ain't tough or nothing like that. Y'all dealing with some shit that y'all think is a weakness that you should deal with because if you deal with it, it's your strength. I went to therapy. Change your life.


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[Assistant] White guy, he sits down, glasses just like yours, he sits down and says, Darryl, join your career with Run DMC.


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[Assistant] Did anybody ever do anything to make you angry? I'm sitting here and I'm like nah.


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[Assistant] There's a book called The Primal Room, but I forgot the lady's name, I know a professor, it's a lady, it starts with a V.


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[Assistant] But she said when I was giving away, cause I'm with my birth mother for nine months.


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[Assistant] I'm OCD, I'm very neat, I always want to be in control and I always want people to like me.


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[Assistant] So my therapist said, Dee, you had the power 20 years ago not to fall down and stay in the catacombs of depressing. I said, what do you mean by that? If anybody ever does something about you, it's okay to speak up. Like people say,


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[Assistant] Okay D, if that's the case, what, what, what friend do you have? See, there was a lot of records I made that I didn't want to make.


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[Assistant] And people, they, they, they, they call out the good ones, but Missy Lane, Ragtime, the whole Back From Hell album, which was a fucking disaster, you know, and then, you know, more power to me, it was a thing where I was a follower.


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[Assistant] Like, I wouldn't have made that record that way, but I didn't want to hurt JM Runs, I didn't want to cause no commotion, I didn't want them to see your problem. It's mental, it's all mental. So I was diagnosed with suppressed emotions.


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[Assistant] My therapist said, yo, when you was writing your rhymes, not high on all E, that's when you wrote all your good shit.


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[Assistant] I didn't remember my comic books until I went to therapy.


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[Assistant] Old English replaced the imagination that I was getting from Marvel, which made me write a rhyme about anything so good that anybody, but I was drinking an old English saying, I gotta be this, this, I need this for the courage. So, when I got out of rehab, what had happened was,


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[Assistant] I was in rehab in 3rd penis all the time, my partner Run, he had 10 years of a successful TV show, Run's House. 10 years and people would tell me, first season came on, they waiting for DMC to show up.


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[Assistant] Oh, he ain't show up this season, next season, next year. 10 years, I ain't show up there. There's no beef with me and run. Cause imagine what happened to me.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I got acute pancreatitis. I got depressed. I found out that I was adopted. Uhm, Jam Master Jay got shot and killed. Then my father died.


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[Assistant] And I would say that and you would see people, now, it ain't no DMC run shit. You'd say, what, what's that about? And I would tell them, you know, I was drinking a quesadilla today, Jack Daniels and Jim Beam was my friend, I found out that I was adopted, I was suicide. Really? And I would sit there and tell these people this, this kept happening.


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[Assistant] Yo DMC man, could you come talk to my father because he? Yo DMC, could you come talk to my daughter because she? Like it was crazy and I found myself going to speak to people.


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[Assistant] So powerful. And putting the book out too. And then, I was doing that so much, and all the people, I was just talking to people, and they was like, yo Dee, you should write a book. And I was like, no.


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[Assistant] Cause I will not capitalize off of an unfortunate situation. You know what I'm saying? Sell some books, make some money. They said, nah D-Man, I know you ain't that type of guy, but he said with a book you can reach so many people without even being there.


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[Assistant] So I put out a book called 10 Ways Not To Commit Suicide, which goes into detail everything that I just talked about.


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[Assistant] Not till 2004. Found out that I was adopted in uh, 97. And it took 97, 98, 99, 2000, 2000. Took 7 years, 8 years for me to get to courage. And that just came about where, when I first found out that I was adopted, I didn't know any other adopted people.


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[Assistant] So that was a hell in itself. I was walking around here, I was alright, and I was in therapy, but I was still a mess, but the beautiful thing, I didn't have to drink.


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[Assistant] But it was, it's hanging over me, so when I met some other adopted people,


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[Assistant] A matter of fact, I got to meet a nice young lady from LA named Sheila Jaffe.


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[Assistant] And if you want to know who Sheila Jaffe is, she's one of the greatest casting directors out here in LA.


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[Assistant] Uh, Entourage, Sopranos, Mark Wahlberg, John Chester, name a few.


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[Assistant] So uhm, I got to meet Sheila Jaffe and I didn't feel alone no more. So she introduced me to other adoptees here in LA. They was like, oh, by the way, uhm, we do an adoption anonymous thing. I was like, what the hell is that? Once a month we just go in a room and we talk.


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[Assistant] No therapist, no, we just told people, you could be angry, you could cry, whatever.


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[Assistant] Cool, set chains, I'm sitting there. But at these meetings, they was like, are you dying to know? Nope, I don't wanna know. Nope, just sitting there. So a little instigation from Sheila and my other adopted friends, they was like, yo.


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[Assistant] You wanna find your birth mom, we know a private eye lady who started a private eye service specifically for adoptees.


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[Assistant] Like she can go CIA and Russia and all that. Her service is specifically for us, specifically for adoptees. So I used this private hour lady in 2004 and she comes back to me, your mother, she lives in Staten Island, she drives a Silverhonder Accord. Whoa.


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[Assistant] And uh, Christmas, no Thanksgiving of 2004, I knocked on the door, and the door opened up, and it was my birth mother. And I found two brothers and a sister that I didn't know I had. And it's funny, it was the first time in my life that I saw somebody related to me that looked exactly like me.


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[Assistant] Because what had happened was my brother was born three years prior to her. My mother was living in, uhm, Hamilton Heights, in the Washington Heights area. So that's why my parents thought I was Dominican. Dominican, yes.


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[Assistant] So my mother and father, you know, my Dr. Penn, we think you might be Dominican, because all they knew was this young girl couldn't keep you and gave you up, uhm, I think through the Catholic services. So she was young.


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[Assistant] So she had my brother, she had my brother when she was 18.


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[Assistant] And she, my brother was raised by her and her family.


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[Assistant] So my father moved him from New York City to Staten Island.


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[Assistant] And said, don't go back and see that boy and come home pregnant again.


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[Assistant] So they put me up for adoption. And I had two brothers and a sister that I didn't know I had. Do you guys keep in touch?


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[Assistant] Fortunately, 99.9 of reunions are terrible. Motherfucker, don't you ever call her again. I don't want to see your ass. I'll call the police on you. Because it's nothing wrong. I gotta tell other adoptees. They're not mad with you. They're mad at what your ass remind them of. Like a lot of mothers is reminded of the man in that time. Unless they go to therapy, they won't be able to do it.


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[Assistant] Oh no, it's the wildest thing ever because she goes, this was cool. Um, she goes, when I'm speaking to her on the phone before an in-person meeting.


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[Assistant] She got to go do her work. Alright, we'll meet on Thanksgiving. She got off the phone, had to call up her kids. Kids, sit down, I need to tell you something.


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[Assistant] Cause my older brother Mark, who I said was born before me, I had, uh, it was Mark, then me, I was giving up and then she had Damon and my sister, but either by two other men. But Mark's whole life.


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[Assistant] Yes, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, no, no, no, okay, let's, what happened with that was, I went to, uh, rock on the range,


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[Assistant] In Ohio was Rock on the Range, the big festival Rock on the Range that they do every year. I was playing with, uhm, I was playing with Pop Evil.


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[Assistant] I did a remix of one of their songs, Poppy Trenches.


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[Assistant] So Papa Evil wanted to bring me out at Rock on the Range festival. This was about seven or eight years ago.


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[Assistant] So, I go to rock on the range, and I'm backstage, sitting with all the rock, the metal, got everybody, this and that. And Rob Dukes was singing with Exodus at the time. He was the third lead singer of Exodus.


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[Assistant] So, he comes up to me just to tell me how cool I am and shit. And I'm like, oh, okay, yeaah, thank you, yeaah. We dig you and everybody's digging you, this and that. And he goes, yo, we should do a song together. And I go, okay.


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[Assistant] What? I'ma hold you to that. So uhm, we went in the studio to do one song and it came out so good that we kept making songs and making songs and making songs. But at the end of the recording, the album, the band, he was singing with Exodus. Exodus fired him. The day me and Rob


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[Assistant] The next day he got fired from Exodus, so he started a new band called, uhm, Generation Kel.


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[Assistant] But that being said, at the time I was already working on this project called DMC. But this, uhm, entity of DMC stands for Dynamic Musical Collaborations. So what I was doing with, I was, uhm, recording with all my favorite punk.


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[Assistant] Classic rock and alternative artists. Uhm, Joan Jett.


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[Assistant] I love her. Huge fan. Joan Jett, Sammy Hager, Tim Armstrong from Rancid, Travis Barker, Sebastian Bach, Rob Dukes, uh, who else is on that album?


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is all the rock music that I love. So, the Fragile Mortals album is now not coming out, cause the bands do that thing.


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[Assistant] Yes, definitely for you because you're my friend now. Yes! Fuck you. But everybody else. Everybody else. I just gave you the pitch. You want me to run? Check, gotta be really big. Really big. And now, what I'm here now in LA, uhm, after JMS2J passed away, rest in peace JMS2J.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I didn't want to do the same presentation that I did with Run and Jay. Right. Because that's need to be respected. Of course. People's like, you know, y'all can make records. No. We can't replace our drummer. Jay was the band. Right.


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[Assistant] So what I did now was I wanted to do a different interpretation of what I'm known for.


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[Assistant] So now I have a band that's called DMC and the Hell Raisers. From Raisin' Hell, you know, the Phenomenal Hell Raisers.


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[Assistant] So what we do is we do my whole catalog live, live drums, live bass, live guitar, and I still have DJ Charlie Chan, who is Jay's protege, on the turntables. Like even Succumsees, which is all beat, ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta


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[Assistant] All the time, all the time, yeaah. That's what I do. 99, 95, 95% of what I do is I go to, uhm, group homes, adoption agencies, foster care agencies, you know, middle schools and high schools, and I speak to the kids about comic books, hip hop, and the importance of knowing something.


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[Assistant] Like, you know, I don't want to tell kids you need to go to college, or you need to, education is important, but I tell them, no matter what you do, you need to learn.


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[Assistant] Cuz the bad guy, when I say everybody wanna be the bad guy. But the bad guy ain't so bad. Everybody wanna be the bad guy.


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[Assistant] The company is called Darrell Makes Comics, DMC. DMC, Darrell Makes Comics. Cause I couldn't use Marvel and I couldn't use DC, so my man Riggs was like, Riggs Morales was actually Eminem's right hand man over at Shady Records.


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[Assistant] And uhm, he's my editor in chief with my comic book company. So he said, what do you want to call your comic book company? I'm like, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you just like, do I want to spend my time being stalked? Making out with random guys?


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[Assistant] Was that it for you? I was like, who's Tom Segura? I live under a rock.


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[Assistant] Yeah, therapy, excellent idea. Breathing helps. Sounds simple, but it can be life changing.


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[Assistant] And then, like, in acting class, if you take an acting class, they, uh, they tend to, like, rip you to shreds so they can... Build you back up? So they can get at the good stuff, which is the truth of all humanity that's, like, living inside of us that's been, like, blocked.


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[Assistant] And know that it's a part of you. And I really believe like every person is capable of every...


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[Assistant] Act and that includes like murder or love, you know, all the greats unless maybe you have a major psychosis. I can't speak to that. I'm not a doctor. Right.


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[Assistant] We're capable, and that's why actors, like, it's true human expression. It can be.


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[Assistant] Don't freak out. You've known this girl your entire life, but she has.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and in that moment, she kind of like turns into his dream girl. You know, he's like all of a sudden in front of her. So it's not even quite like true to life.


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[Assistant] That thought runs through your head? In life, all the time. I'm like, oh, this is the truth of this. Of this. Moment. Yeah.


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[Assistant] But I would say, it's mostly like choreography on the day. I didn't practice sexy faces, but maybe next time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you kind of have to give all of that up. You have to be willing to be free and just hope that people aren't mean to you. But that's what's hard to do, right? Which sometimes they are.


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[Assistant] That's how it feels sometimes, especially if someone else is already attached. You're like, okay, they're, they're looking for the girl to play opposite of this boy. Yes. And it's romantic and you just want to. You don't want to be a prop. You don't want to be a prop. You want to have dimension. And the great thing was like Sarah Gamble, our producer and creator, um,


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[Assistant] No. No? No. You're just reading it like this is the work I'm signed up for. I really think to myself like are these words that I want to say? Is this how I want to spend my day? You know, cause it's very like immediate effect. Yep. And then everything else is just like icing on top of the cake.


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[Assistant] We had no idea that it was gonna be a hit or that it was gonna be on Netflix. You know, now it's on Netflix. That's right.


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[Assistant] If my hair is done, you know, if it's like curly, which is what it is on the show, I get a lot of recognition.


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[Assistant] It's Dead Center, it's Ashborough. There's a zoo there. You've been to the zoo? I've been to the zoo but I know Ashborough. How do you know Ashborough?


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[Assistant] Grandparent, both grandparents. Yea, furniture capital.


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[Assistant] That's sad. It's best when it's like free. And so you can be free and you can touch it. Cause you know, what you do with your hair says a lot about your character. I think. Right. But then there's a continuity issue. So if you want to have a side tucked, you have to commit to that at the top of the scene.


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[Assistant] So that's, that's the issue. It's like, that's one thing you just kind of have to hope doesn't stick to your mouth. See, cause I saw you just now. Yeah, that's like the worst thing.


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[Assistant] Well, just, yeaah, so everyone knows, like, yeaah, I'm a girl.


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[Assistant] Great, absolutely. I was just telling Tom that like in Countdown, there are all these shots of me looking at the phone and it's like right up the chin, right up the nose, and I look like old. Nooo. Stop yourself.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. This is, this is where I don't watch myself during and this is after. This is like the trailer. And I'm like in the trailer it's all these shots of me looking really concerned at my phone. There you are, there you are. Yes, I mean there's one. That one's not terrible. There's another one.


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[Assistant] Like I'd rather sleep than eat. It becomes the priority. So you just go home. Luckily for me, I was like here alone in this little hotel, extended stay hotel in Chatsworth.


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[Assistant] That sounds really lovely. They spend no expense for you. Indie filmmaking. I just went home and I just put myself to bed. That's the trick.


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[Assistant] Some people are just so warm. They're like so talented that they can just like...


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[Assistant] On the day. Especially in television because you're doing it for like months at a time. You get really used to your character. I can't do that. Not yet. Maybe one day.


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[Assistant] Oh man, I wish I could, I wish I had like written it down.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there were some in countdown that were hard.


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[Assistant] Only at the, because you're living in this really dramatic...


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[Assistant] I have to say some, I mean, really simple stuff that sometimes just feels weird, like uhm, Dr. Sullivan gets pulled away. I don't want to give too much away at one point. Right, of course. And I have to turn and say, you know, I've gotta explain it really quickly, like, oh, you know, it's because of the app, I have to say something.


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[Assistant] I don't know when I can give away because it hasn't come out. So now I'm editing myself so nobody's gonna understand this story until they see the movie. Uhm, but I remember watching it afterwards and I was like, woah, that really worked. That line, that felt really iffy, clunky.


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[Assistant] I always told Justin, our director, I was like, tell me, please tell me, like, tell me if it's awful, yell at me, tell me what to do if something's


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[Assistant] There's a lot of giggling on my part cause I'm, you know, a 14 year old girl about it.


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[Assistant] Find someone on set who you really like and who you feel comfortable with and have them stay in the room with you during the love scene. Oh really?


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[Assistant] That's what I do. It's like, so, you know, cause I end up making friends on set, and, you know, wardrobe is there, like with the robe. So my good friend Lucy on You.


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[Assistant] Would be in the corner, with the robe, you know, waiting to cover me.


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[Assistant] They, they, they give you, you know, it's, it's actually hard because they give you general things like, okay, and you're gonna be straddling him and then have sex. That's what they say. Have sex. You know, whatever that is. You're like, what?


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[Assistant] Of course, right? They, I think they get camera shy.


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[Assistant] But there's two cameras, you know, on either side. That's a lot going on, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, newfound respect for porn actors.


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[Assistant] That's my issue. The prep. Yeaah. You're like, how close are they actually gonna see? Right.


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[Assistant] I had a really bad countdown party day. You did? You did? Yeah, I went somewhere and chatted with the day before. It did not go well.


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[Assistant] I, I feel like it was in the hospital.


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[Assistant] Well luckily in this business, even if you're not like sexually drawn to someone or romantically drawn to them, they tend to be pretty interesting people and uhm, fairly handsome.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they tend to be, you at least have one thing in common.


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[Assistant] Really? I'm totally opposite. I would like stand there and watch them all day. Even if it's gross. I'd rather watch them puke.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I can't look away. I can't look away.


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[Assistant] I'm only on the Instagram actively, and I have a Twitter, but I just use it to read things.


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[Assistant] He also has that like, he does that thing where he like, comes down at the end.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's either that or, you know, I prefer to speak than the naked photo situation. Right.


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[Assistant] Well, honestly, he seems pretty relaxed. You know, he seems like he knows his lines. I think the writing is the problem. I'm very, I'm like the last person to blame the actor. He's always like, oh, it's the writing, it's the directing, it's the editing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for me he has kind of like a white...


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[Assistant] Well here's the thing, he's like primarily a country singer, right? That's true. And they've thrown him in front of a camera to say lines, poor lines, bad lines.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, well, you know, we'd have to like massage his belly a little bit. Really? Yeaah. Do you get into that? Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you have to, like, you have so much tension in your body and this is like your breathing box and so if there's any holding here, it's hard to connect. Kind of what, you're not connected, well a lot of it is like connecting down from like the pelvic floor and sending that thought all the way up.


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[Assistant] Yeah. No, it's Daniel Sloss. I'm sure he would like to say that. Do you know who he is? Boy, he's British. He's Scottish. Scottish. Yeah, they're drunks. Extra. So that's fine. That's why. No.


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[Assistant] I think you guys have the hardest job in the world.


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[Assistant] I'm just taking what's coming. I appreciate his spirit. Me too.


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[Assistant] Again, I keep having like a little bit of compassion for this guy. Yeah. Well, hopefully that means like if he hears no, he takes it. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I think he was- It's a fight. No, no, no, I think he was- Or maybe he got him caught on something and this is just for show.


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[Assistant] He is. That seems to be his primary goal in life, is to get the ladies. To get the ladies. Yea, I get it. Ladies are great. Focused.


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[Assistant] Cause, cause he's not saying anything. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I mean, he's promising a good time and the other one's kind of like...


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[Assistant] At least he's upfront about it. Right. I like that he's transparent.


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[Assistant] I'm just, you know, I'm like, just bleeding out of my vagina.


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[Assistant] Perfect. It's like it was always meant to be there. It's perfect. Oh, cool. I can't wait to see it. I haven't seen it. And you guys have real chemistry. It's almost like there's something really going on.


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[Assistant] You know, I worked on a farm.


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[Assistant] Yes, uhm, and sometimes the ones, like the one I wish saw is not following me. Oh, she's following, she's following, don't worry about it.


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[Assistant] Some guy, he's getting out in August on Wrecker's Island. But, uh, the deal is, he has grand theft. And that is not a good deal. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I don't mind a rape or a little minor robbery, but Grand Theft, you see the antiques, I don't want to be the next victim.


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[Assistant] I did that when I went to the little leather bars. Yeah, they did them right in the leather bars, huh? Yeah. If you didn't do it, well... You're a loser. You couldn't stay in the bar. Oh, okay.


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[Assistant] You gotta go check the stars, you gotta float away and go with the flow. And he came out.


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[Assistant] Indians. And there's gold. They got savages!


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[Assistant] This episode of Your Mom's House is brought to you by Satva Luxury Mattress, the only online mattress company that provides free delivery, setup and mattress removal.


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[Assistant] That is silly. I mean. I mean, do you think, do you think Josh is like having fun with it? Like, you think he's like, you know, I can't see and I don't want you to see either. Like, is that what he's doing when he does this?


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[Assistant] Of course, of course. Take it, take it personally. He's saying like, look what I've been through for years.


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[Assistant] I mean that's, it's obvi- like he obviously is trying to stick it to us. That's what he's doing.


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[Assistant] Well, you know what? I didn't even really like it. I was just like, yeah, who cares?


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[Assistant] Really? It doesn't fit you well, it's too big. It's kinda baggy and weird, but you know.


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[Assistant] No, that's true. I agree. I mean, I think it's true.


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[Assistant] Now that the most fun part of the show is over, let's go on.


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[Assistant] I uh, I'll tell you something, I'll never ever get tired of somebody coming out of surgery and not knowing what they're saying. Yea, it's a good lane for videos. It really is fun. It really is. And the thing is, it's fun when it's a kid, a teenager, an adult, an old person. Or like an old obese person. Yea, it's great. Yea, they don't have to be, but yea.


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[Assistant] I love it. I love it. It actually brings to mind something.


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[Assistant] So, you know, a few weeks ago we played the, uh, the tree trimming accident. Yes. And when we saw the video, uhm,


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[Assistant] At first I was like, this is just a crazy freak accident and someone was getting kind of hurt. And then during the show we actually thought he was decapitated, which was not good. Then it became verified that he is actually alive. So that guy did not get decapitated, but he had a horrific


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[Assistant] Horrific injury. Like, one of the worst things I've ever seen. And I gotta tell you something, man.


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[Assistant] It fucked, it fucked me up. Like seeing it and seeing the look in that guy's eyes was horrible. And I know there's people who watch the show that think I'm a fucking maniac and that I just want to see, but like there's a difference. There's a difference between like,


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[Assistant] You know, like we played recently, we played that guy on the scooter. Remember that? I think he was in, uh, in 509.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, is like, the guy on the scooter falls, right, on the skateboard. He falls, but like, you see him get hurt, but you don't, like, you see that he's alright. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Well, just to like, cause people send me shit all the time. And they'll be like, this is cool. This guy, uh, loses his arms and I'm like, I don't.


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[Assistant] That's not what I'm talking, like, it's like, I laugh at like, there's a reason we all, a lot of us found Jackass funny. Like, Jackass, they do things that are stupid, they get hurt, but they don't get like, you know, their life's not over.


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[Assistant] And like the big, like, you know, the famous ones that I've laughed at. Yeah. I mean, the car in the garage is, it's bad. But like, I laugh, I don't see anything, you know, I don't see gore. I don't see blood. I don't see.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I'm just making the point that like, there's a difference, there's a difference, you know? Like, I laugh at like, yes, I laugh at somebody screaming, I laugh at what appears to be an oh shit moment, right? Someone trips and falls off a thing, gets hit, but uhm, dude, that fucking video.


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[Assistant] I, I encourage you to not look it up, unless you really have a stomach for that stuff. I don't like that stuff. The tree trimming thing, like I, I thought it was just like whoop and then a guy falls. It's the worst catastrophic injury I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't want to see someone die, I don't want to see somebody decapitated, I don't want to see someone disemboweled, I don't want, like, that to me isn't like, haha, see?


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[Assistant] He's dead, or at least he'll be dead soon. Like that's not, that's not, I don't know. To me, I think most people get that, but you always have to explain that. This, I'm telling you, this image will live in my nightmares. It's, so you saw it.


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[Assistant] Why don't we relive it? I think there's a, it's, oh, it's in the other one. I think I could find that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's uhm, I'm just getting used to the controls again.


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[Assistant] Well there was also the, uh, what's it, the, like the best story I've ever heard in my life that was on there too.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna show it to Dr. J. Tell me if you don't think this is a good story. And also the hair brush eating?


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[Assistant] I might wanna see that guy's injury over watching that lady eat fuckin' hairbrushes again.


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[Assistant] Hold on, there's something, I don't know what's going on. There's a big thing right now where people are...


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[Assistant] Talking to us because Robert Paul Champagne is not on Instagram.


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[Assistant] I don't know if he'll be back by the time this airs, but his Instagram is down. He has, though, joined YouTube. Now one of the things I'd like to start with, if you don't mind, is uh, his choice in titling the video.


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[Assistant] Nadav, I don't know if you can, uh, can you read the title of that video?


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[Assistant] Um, and Robert has, uh, one thing I'm really happy with, he posted this video, he's got a little bit of a new look going on. Yes, he looks


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[Assistant] Hair looks a little different, face looks a little different, and he's rockin' some YMH merch.


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[Assistant] One of the, one of the gifts that Josh bestowed upon him, he's wearing in this. Can you click this for a second?


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[Assistant] Wow, same. Yep. And if you scroll forward like 30 seconds.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, let's, uh, let's stop down for a minute and let's bring our very own, uh, Josh Potter in here. It's everyone's favorite moment on your mom's house podcast. Our very own Josh Potter joins us.


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[Assistant] It's not on purpose. Okay. Alright, I thought you were like, really trying to take a jab at us, you know? No, no, no. Why would I?


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[Assistant] Well, yeaah, that's the second part, so I, uh, should go back to...


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[Assistant] For International Non-Binary Day, that all my trans comics, comics meaning comics that they draw.


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[Assistant] But my transition as a whole is not binary. My life as a mid-transition transmasc non-binary person is being primarily misgendered as a woman in real life and being primarily misgendered as a man online. The gender binary truly will not free me from its gross clutches.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think Q is a great concept. I like what they're doing. I just feel like I would like the voice to be sort of dialed in a little more.


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[Assistant] And uhm, I mean, you know, I just, I don't know how many times I have to tell people that... Well, what's your idea of a genderless voice? Well, I just feel like it should be tweaked. It does, it is leaning a little...


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[Assistant] Feminine. I hear it too. And honestly that kind of upsets me when I have to hear like, oh this is clearly a feminine voice.


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[Assistant] But there is like a, you can put a dog voice on some of those things and then I feel like, oh I'm listening to an animal talk, you know.


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[Assistant] And I feel like, I mean, I don't know if I'm out of line saying this, but I feel like our youngest identifies as Asian, you know?


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[Assistant] Just, there's little things he does. Transracial? Yea. Things with his voice, I'm like, the fuck are you saying, you know? And I just feel like it's kind of, he has a, he's drawn to that culture more.


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[Assistant] I have, it doesn't go well right now, but I think that in a while, you know, and he's consenting more to diaper changes, which is good. That's one of the things you're supposed to do.


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[Assistant] So can we, this is a perfect segway, uhm, he may be in Instagram jail. We mentioned that who we featured on our show feed by Kay with three E's for a triple dose of them feed. She was kicked off Instagram.


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[Assistant] What do you, okay, so we understand, like, so somebody could complain about one of the feed accounts. Yes. How is that a violation though? Was that a violation in some way?


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[Assistant] That's where all these people go to, right?


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[Assistant] There is. We were by the way before you get into this, we were casually talking about this the other day before doing a show and Josh started to lecture us about where this should go.


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[Assistant] One other thing though, you also, you made a great point when we were talking about this, about the verbiage, uh, for a cat. Could you re-share that?


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[Assistant] Yeah. Hey princess, you got some popcorn? Oh for fuck's sake with this guy. That's good. Because I got the movies! Let's do this. This is the weirdest fucking language. I don't like it at all.


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[Assistant] That voice, you gotta earn that voice. You know, that doesn't just, it's not given to you to be like, I got real bad heartburn. You really gotta work for that.


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[Assistant] What if you're, what if what really turns you on, you don't even know yet, and it's, it's actually like a super aggro bitch, who like, fucking punches you, and you're like, oh my god. She's like, she's super hot, she holds you down, fucks you, makes you cum, if you don't cum, she starts choking you and slapping you.


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[Assistant] I would say that if, if you get headaches and your first thought is to eat mustard, then maybe...


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[Assistant] Since you're here, we discussed it briefly. Do you think, I think, so Josh is doing a big weekend. He's doing, now he's doing, he's doing Seattle, now adding Portland and Tacoma. That's right. He should fly Jackie from Canada. I think we're going to.


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[Assistant] You gotta go to the shows, but I'm just saying, I mean put it out, you can pick whatever


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[Assistant] Oh, you're, you're, you said you, you took this for a spin the other day? Yeah. What? I am pro dick.


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[Assistant] So you're rock hard. Yes. And you gave it to this chick. Gave it to. How long did your session last? Cause since you don't finish. Hour plus.


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[Assistant] So you're letting whoever it comes into your life know that, hey- I don't tell them. I know, but we're letting them know right now.


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[Assistant] Okay, uhm, Stanema aside, we gotta get to this, so...


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[Assistant] August 8th, Albany, New York, Foxwoods, uh, August 9th, and Hampton Beach, two shows, August 10th, Burlington, Vermont, the 11th, then I go to Canada, and I'm doing London, Ontario, then two shows in Toronto.