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[Assistant] Because they are wrestling she. Meanwhile, Chicago is Chicago. You don't say Chicago. It's not Chicago. It's Chicago. It's S-H-I-B-O. But I won't mind. She is embarrassment. So we must not say Chicago. We must say Chicago. So you say them again. Chicago. Wrestling with their weight that English language has placed on them. Now, if all of us are in this room and we are communicating,


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[Assistant] The ideas that we fly, just because somebody speaks good English, a part of us says he's better. A part of us say we should listen more to him.


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[Assistant] A part of us says it's superior, right? Have you noticed that anybody speaking either English in a British accent or an American accent, in their teaching, they just sound deep. At times what they are saying is so watery, so elementary, I'm like, they're not responding to the depth, they are responding to the container, not the content.


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[Assistant] Just because you failed that standard of that container, they think that they are better than you. So, I have to graduate out of that. And I used to be that myself. But I used to say, no, this is not fair.


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[Assistant] So what about that? Now what am I saying, PK? Are you now saying that we should cancel the English language? No, I think it's too late.


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[Assistant] What I'm saying is, it should not be a determinant of progress in our country.


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[Assistant] People can go and learn English in school. It should not be part of our grading.


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[Assistant] The PG inversion through any Nigerian, any foreigner to anywhere in Nigeria, any market, they will buy and sell and go.


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[Assistant] We're going to take a German. Today, raw German. Travelled in the Nigerian market. In, in Kalagu. It will go there with Pidgin English to Pidgin English.


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[Assistant] They will understand each other, they will buy, they will sell, and they will go.


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[Assistant] So, we can focus on our struggle with another man's language if we honor communication.


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[Assistant] That means that a lot of mechanics, have you gone to a mechanic workshop, you are looking at the engine, you are looking at him doing everything, and he's still cheating you.


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[Assistant] And you can't see what he's doing there. You will look at him, watch everything he was teaching you. The intelligence, you didn't allow him to express.


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[Assistant] Because you couldn't pass an English and go on to be your best engineer is what is still using to cheat you in that place despite all your education.


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[Assistant] And your, you came, and you picked after your mum's gin, and you were shot.


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[Assistant] Who chose that kind of standard? A standard that is an weakness or reality of nature, not of intelligence. But somebody chose it. That's the same way they have chosen English language as a determinant of progress. So what do you think we should do so that people are just criticizing? I'll tell them what I think we should do.


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[Assistant] I think that right now it's too late to cancel English language.


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[Assistant] I think English should not be part of our grading at any level. Should be a compulsory subject.


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[Assistant] You should, you should be judged by classroom attendance. And that's it.


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[Assistant] Number three, there should be English language centers in every local government.


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[Assistant] That is teaching adults and children and anybody a form of English enough for them to communicate.


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[Assistant] Three, our key languages should be made compulsory, and we should be greeted by it.


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[Assistant] Our professors of language, of linguistics in the universities should be tasked to give us physics textbooks in Yoruba, in Igbo, in Ausa, to give us a chance


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[Assistant] Because most of us don't think in our native languages anymore. I don't think in Yoruba, I think in English.


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[Assistant] One day I was invited to a TV station where they were speaking Yoruba, and I was confident I would speak.


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[Assistant] So I don't even have that anymore. So it means my wife, my children cannot enjoy my best thoughts.


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[Assistant] Okay, hey, you are a marsh friend, friend of the swamp brother, this episode. Scott isn't, but you are, Drew.


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[Assistant] Ah, I'm pretty sure you signed off on them being top 5 by the end of it. But, I'm sure we can change your mind today, so. Compromise. Argonians are.


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[Assistant] Creatures, I guess, people. They're a race of reptilian lizard folk. They live in the southeastern province of Black Marsh. And, uh, they're very different to all the other races, um, in Tamriel, all the playable races especially. So.


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[Assistant] In the back of their ears. Um, and I really wish we saw that in game. The swimming like a tadpole or even like an eel by moving their tail side to side.


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[Assistant] I think that would be super cool, but basically if you didn't notice all of the inspiration of these different creatures and their aesthetic kind of impact on creating the Algonian, they're all egg laying creatures.


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[Assistant] Which you may not have noticed. Like amphibians and fish and birds. Dinosaurs even, right? Like dinosaur eggs.


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[Assistant] Although what's really interesting about the Argonians is that they have a connection to the sentient histories, which we'll talk about more in depth later on in the episode. Basically these ancient sentient trees that have seemingly been around forever and kind of give the Argonians their soul, basically, right?


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[Assistant] And they have like a mental telepathic connection with them.


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[Assistant] And the closer you are to the histories, the stronger that connection is.


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[Assistant] And, and they also, which is interesting, you know, you look at the kind of Anu stuff involved with like kind of stasis, right? And everything stemming from there. But then the Argonians are much more chaotic in their creation. And as we'll discuss, they, they kind of venerate Sithus, right?


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[Assistant] And even in, if you look at the way that they, their biology can change. Cause that's one thing about Argonians, which is super interesting. They're very adaptable.


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[Assistant] So, uh, some of it is really cool. Some of it you just think, hmm, that's like a convenient law thing that you just changed quite often. But basically the idea that they're, uh, an ever changing form and that they can undergo the amount of evolution.


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[Assistant] Um, that would take, you know, I don't know how many years, but let's just say millions of years, but like super, super quick with the help of the hist and this kind of.


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[Assistant] And then the Hissap comes through the, uh, mammalian like breasts. Which is why.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, so Hissap's super important. It's, it's the other thing I'll say about the Argonians in terms of like just base information about them. And it's kind of disputed as well, but there's this idea that


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[Assistant] Some that aren't born in Black Marsh have, do not have a connection to the Hist, whereas others just say it's like a weak connection to the Hist and that they're all connected. It depends who you believe.


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[Assistant] So two things I just want to add while we're in this area of things. One is the kind of xenophobic challenges they face.


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[Assistant] Second one I've just forgot, so let's do one thing at a time. The xenophobia. So, because they're so different, because they're born in Black Marsh, they actually grow up with a completely different range of, like, well, a lack of, to Tamrielic folk, like other Tamrielic folk, facial animations, right?


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[Assistant] So it said that the only way you can tell when an Argonian is emotional is when they're narrowing their eyes and baring their teeth. And I'm not sure if that's just like from the Skyrim animation of like being in combat or if it's actually said somewhere.


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[Assistant] Basically, it's very hard to relate to another race that's so different in the sense that you can't even tell that they're feeling the same emotions as you, right?


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[Assistant] So imagine you're a Nord and you meet a High Elf and you don't really like this High Elf for whatever reason you may have, right? But at least you're like, oh, they're happy, they're sad, you know, they're sleepy, they're this, they're that. If you see an Argonian, they're just so...


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[Assistant] I actually, I'm just gonna chime in because I remembered what I forgot. My brain turned back on. So I was gonna say, in terms of them being heaps different as well, think about it in the fact of like, they've been known to have birds clean their teeth.


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[Assistant] Like that is so strange, you know, like you may think a Khajiit is strange and then you see an Argonian having a bird clean their teeth.


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[Assistant] Going off what you were saying about the like memories and stuff is this idea as well.


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[Assistant] Which is really interesting. Of Argonian reincarnation, right? Like there's this idea that when they die, their soul kind of travels back to the Hist with their memories and then they're kind of born again. The soul goes into a new Argonian. And yeah, that's nuts.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think there was also a quest in Elder Scrolls Online where there was some kind of like thing where that happened. It was like some love interest story. And they were like, oh, I've changed.


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[Assistant] Or fear of death really is what it ultimately is when you go deep into the argonian lore. It's this idea that they fear, or did fear at least more in the past, which we'll talk about impermanence.


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[Assistant] Obviously visions and stuff happen in the time that everyone else and you're experiencing super quick, but I'm pretty sure as well, he experienced like every day of like them being the mindless lizard and it all like happened at once. And then it was like, Oh, I'm an Argonian. Like he licked the hists up and now I have sentience and, and all of that.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I mean they can change, look, Argonians can change so much that if they go live in caves and stuff far away from the Hiss, they can like lose the color in their scales and like go all pale and strange. Like it's not, it's not just that they have, uh,


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[Assistant] Like a history and that they have their own set tribe and their set characteristics. It's all open to change.


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[Assistant] Like they can, there's even tribes of Argonians that have kind of like translucent, kind of see through scales and stuff. I mean, there's even winged Argonians.


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[Assistant] But, but it does help. Imagine like a flying fish, they could kind of like, jump off a cliff, and they can't fly, but they'll fall slower, so they don't have fall damage at least, like a gliding possi-


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[Assistant] Here's a weird theory for you. What if those feathered bird people that toppled the pilot men were just a really strange tribe of Argonians that were scattered around Tamriel at that point?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause when you, when you actually study the period of their, their old ancient history kind of changing into the modern day kind of cultural beliefs and things like that, especially in regards to Scythus, it's almost like explained or implied that


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[Assistant] Hists disagreed on like the directions things, like it did sound like there was like friction almost between different his members. Another tribe, which is super different, which I definitely want to mention on the podcast is the Sapa.


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[Assistant] Uhm, sorry, the sapra winged, sorry, it's the, uh, the ghost people tribe, the vishk-lil-zel, right? They have pale white scales and do necromancy, but the cool thing about them, which I wanted to say, was they actually can't


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[Assistant] And again, it's based on the theme, like you see this in the wild, you can't turn it into your thing, but you see, uh, eggs being stolen and stuff.


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[Assistant] Well, that's literally what happens. So, in Black Marsh, when Argonians lay eggs, they all get taken to these hatching pools, right? Called an Uxith or something like that.


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[Assistant] And then the Hist, as they're developing in the egg, kind of decide what form they're gonna take on. But also there's this thing about if the Hist aren't, sorry, if the Argonians are not meant to hatch, it will actually sink back down into the ground and be absorbed again. Just wasn't destined to be.


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[Assistant] It does, it does get really strange actually if you want to bring up the concept of death for a moment. There, in each tribe, there's a bunch of different members, right, with different roles. And I'm sure it varies from tribe to tribe, but there are grave singers, right?


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[Assistant] And what they do is they put a grave stake in a dead argonian, which is like this giant wooden stake, similarly to like what you would kill a vampire with except ma- well, supposedly, uh, a massive one, right? But it's not round. It's kind of like, um,


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[Assistant] Rectangular, for lack of better words. Like you can write a message on it, right? And the tales of the Argonian and what they achieved and their deeds in their life are written on that. Then this huge stake is impaled in them to pin them to the bottom of the marsh.


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[Assistant] And the reason that's done as well is so, and this lore gets a bit weird, it could just be, huh, they wanted a different enemy type in Elder Scrolls Online. But basically, for reasons not fully explained,


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[Assistant] Argonians can, and I'd like to know what you think of this, rise from the dead as zombies, with a very generic MMO enemy name called Bog Blytes, but...


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[Assistant] They are really interesting if you look them up. They're like these zombie...


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[Assistant] Argonians with holes in them from where the steak was, right? So if somebody pulls the steak out, they can rise as these zombies. And it's not the work of a necromancer.


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[Assistant] It's not some- no one put a reanimation spell on them. It's something inherent to Black Marsh, probably like everything they're involved with the HIST, that will actually just bring them back.


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[Assistant] No, it's not, no, no, no, no, it's not done to hurt them at all. It's, it's like, uh, they like, they put it in with the story of the deceased Argonian on it and sing them like a song.


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[Assistant] From my understanding it's just like how other races will do their rights to the dead to stop necromancers being able to raise them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, now that, that is an interesting concept because there's also like two ways of looking at it because on one hand, the Hists don't necessarily need them all or care for them all to do heroic deeds so long as they're, you know, serving the Hists. Like a lot of Argonians will just live in tribes and like, you know,


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[Assistant] And also if they're not caring about impermanence and they don't understand other cultures fixation on like chronological time and like, you know, these types of things, it's interesting that they would


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[Assistant] Wanna incentivize, if that's even the reason, like, uhm.


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[Assistant] You know, them achieving things or it can be more like a library, a record of their life or just a ancient, right?


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[Assistant] Well here's, here's a, here's a take that it could be, perhaps.


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[Assistant] As humans and being more on that, like, less Argonian side way of thinking, maybe we're kind of projecting our own idea of like their deeds and what they did in their life.


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[Assistant] It's not the Breton thing, it's not find your heal, become a king type stuff.


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[Assistant] Because especially consider this too, they're not in on it, like when we talk about the hist and the theories about the hist and if they actually care about the argonians. The argonians aren't in on it, like they're not sitting there like, mmm, I'm a memory receptacle and like I'm gonna go out there and do this and die so I can like give the hist memories.


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[Assistant] There's this, there's this theme, I'm not sure how to pronounce it, it's either shunatei or shunatei, but basically means the pain caused by holding on too tightly to that which has come to pass, also described as the fear of death and forgetting. So now they believe that building stone structures


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[Assistant] That will endure for centuries is foolish and you know, they point to all these other ruins of other societies that have crumbled and fallen apart. So they don't really, they'll make structures that are much more temporary now in this philosophical kind of perspective like the mud huts and the reed houses and things like that.


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[Assistant] And as I said in the ranking races on the cool lore podcast, those mud huts sound boring, but they look really cool. Like they almost have these Telvanni vibes, like they're like a root vegetable almost looking growing out of the ground, like very spherical. I like that.


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[Assistant] They could be, but they can just be chilling underground. Like if some lizards run over the top and take some volcanic material and build a zandmural tree, I'm not sure that they would really mind.


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[Assistant] It was, it was a gradual collapse. But I mean, you know, the, the Oldmer pushed the ancient Argonians away basically into Black Marsh and the Chimer enslaved them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because by the first era, there's all the red Brahman stuff and the piracy and this type of thing.


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[Assistant] They don't even re- like, they're not really connected to their own past. I mean like, there's even theories out there, not that I've really subscribed to them, but saying that the people who built the Xandmiers weren't even like, Argonian in the sense that they are today.


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[Assistant] I consider them Argonian, but the fact that those theories can float around shows you how kind of old and ancient that history really is.


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[Assistant] I think that the lizards evolving into Argonians would have been quite quick, just based on the fact that when the Hist wishes to change Argonians now, it happens fast.


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[Assistant] Yeah, all of the, all of the days of being just the lizard, like not touched by the hist. Right. Like normal lizard, na na na na na na, and then, licks hist up.


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[Assistant] No, especially not where the hyst trees are involved. Definitely not.


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[Assistant] I mean, I mean, they had, what was really interesting, they had these kind of like Sithist priests and this priesthood. And in Elder Scrolls Online, one of the priestesses of Sithus makes like a return, attempting to claim one of the temples in Mirkwild, which is a lot more contemporary than


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[Assistant] care about the Zanmi's in the same way that other societies would be like, whoa, like this is, you know, the Colosseum in Rome and like all of that. It's kind of just like a reminder of the history.


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[Assistant] That the old race, uh, the old Argonians were foolish for seeing Sithus in this way, right? But one of the things that they have, and obviously they don't want people to get their hands off, is these ancient Argonian relics of great power.


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[Assistant] Go mad, basically. And then there's also the golden skull of Beelacar.


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[Assistant] Um, which is just like this cursed, powerful, crazy relic, but, but basically- Indiana Jones and the crystal skull. That's exactly what I was thinking with all the Aztec pipes too, but there's, there's a lot of relics and ancient


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[Assistant] Probably often Sithist oriented things that they would want to keep secret and out of the hands of, I don't know.


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[Assistant] That's true, but I s- for me, I've always interpret- perhaps you're right.


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[Assistant] I agree with the idea that they will go back to the Hiss no matter where they are. I like your theory.


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[Assistant] But I, because, okay, so it goes into the idea that the Hist use the Argonians as these kind of like,


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[Assistant] And, you know, get the soul and then it gets reincarnated into another Argonian. So, if you think about it, there's, if you look at Argonian history, right, like when I made this video, our Argonians Week, they have been, as much as I love them, absolutely trodden on, performed terribly in all military feats, like pretty much all of them.


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[Assistant] Being enslaved by all these different races. And the hyst didn't care.


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[Assistant] But as soon as the Daedra come, as soon as the oblivion crisis happens, because think about it, elves and men can't go to the heart of Black Marsh and disturb the histories, but Daedra probably can.


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[Assistant] Right? Suddenly, oh, let's give the argonian superpowers, make them strong, fast, like ferocious, and they charge into the oblivion gates.


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[Assistant] But then you may think, why do they let them become slaves? And maybe it's because they don't care, right? But if they, but hold on, hold on. If they cared.


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[Assistant] About losing, like, Argonians. Surely they would kind of protect them.


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[Assistant] But if you look at things like Argonian behemoths, which are these giant Argonians that are super strong. I mean, look, simply put, they were able to fend off the oblivion crisis. No other race could do it effectively. And Argonians had been- The hero of Kvatch could, bro. I took that mostly up to preparation.


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[Assistant] I mean look, if they could telepathically call back Argonians, why not just be like, hey man, you're about to get enslaved, come on home.


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[Assistant] Right? So if you have an Argonian slave up in Morrowind and he's a Telvanni slave and he's, I don't know, in a cage, right? The, the Telvanni will walk around talking to each other about their secrets of magic and so on. They don't care that there's an Argonian there, but the hyst are listening.


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[Assistant] Right? Or there's an Argonian beggar in the street and some politician walks past saying, uh, you know, talking about some secret.


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[Assistant] But, but not, but not necessarily. The Hist may know everything that's going on, but that's kind of what I'm saying here is that can be the Hist's ultimate plan to play the long game. They don't necessarily want domination of all of Tamriel. They don't need it. They just want to stay alive.


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[Assistant] They can be limited by the physical manifestation of Argonians going out there and experiencing life, getting memories, learning of secrets, like this type of thing.


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[Assistant] Right? So they're not super-powered in the sense of they just take over all of Tamriel, but super-powered in the sense that they can collect information. I mean- But I still think that-


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[Assistant] Well, it could actually be that it's not about the souls of the Hist and like getting their souls back, like it's this soul budget, like we can send out this many souls.


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[Assistant] Okay, hear me out. Cause I can kind of agree with what you're saying. Like I agree with you, Scott, that the, uh, the Hist aren't necessarily like these super duper powerful God, like unlimited power things, right?


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[Assistant] But they can still just be super selfish and care about themselves and still get the soul back if the argonian dies. Just because they get a soul back, or not, may not be the thing that they worry about. What they worry about might actually just be.


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[Assistant] Keeping the Argonians reliant on their Hist in this symbiotic relationship to have the tree keepers and the sap speakers and the people caring about them and keeping this culture which revolves around almost revering the Hist strong.


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[Assistant] Because if you just send them everywhere, all over Tamriel, it might not be, oh, we lose our soul power. It might just be the culture that's based around, you know, supporting the Hist, supporting us, dies.


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[Assistant] You know, so in a way as well, you could almost say that they don't want to have the Argonians fight and


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[Assistant] Take over Morrowind or take over elsewhere or be a militant force because they attract attention to themselves.


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[Assistant] If you look at the Argonians and all of the races in Tamriel, like the Argonians have all these secret powers, all these abilities, untapped potential, but all the other races look at them as just like, oh, they're these like silly lizards that we can just


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[Assistant] Destroy and, and step on whenever we want. No one's going to bother attacking them. Oh, and the center's uninhabitable. We can't go there anyway. It's like this kind of useless province that we're not really going to sink a whole bunch of resources into getting.


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[Assistant] You know, it doesn't matter if Argonians get enslaved or die in a war or always lose because it just makes them look weak, which could be exactly what the Hist want because they don't want to look like a threat. If all of the armies of Tamriel were like, whoa, the Argonians are this crazy threat. Like when they team up, you know, Sigic monks, all these other.


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[Assistant] Hissed level power things that all of the other provinces and cultures have. Cause this is what you're saying, we don't wanna overstate their power.


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[Assistant] I was basically agreeing with you in the sense that they don't need them to take over other provinces and move the culture away from where the histories are situated.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like you said, I really do think they can be like these long game survivalist type creatures.


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[Assistant] They sacked Mournhold. I heard they got almost as far as Red Mountain and then got pushed back.


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[Assistant] Is it volume seven, one of them talks about that the Thalmor incited them and people go, why would they want to do that? And they say, oh, you know, they, they don't have any hold over the Argonians, whatever hold they had was lost and blah, blah, blah. It could easily just be let's destabilize Skyrim even more by sending a bunch of Dunmer.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, making conditions worse and sending a bunch of refugees there and like, just messing up everything.


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[Assistant] It's when Morrowind and the Imperial forces in Black Marsh were still reeling from the consecutive catastrophes of the Oblivion Crisis and the destruction of Vvardenfell, the Thalmor incited the Argonians to mount a massive uprising.


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[Assistant] Black Marsh and Southern Morrowind were completely lost to the Argonians, but luckily the Thalmor too lost what influence they had over the reptilians. So this book's almost saying that the Thalmor did have some kind of influence over Argonians at that point. I dunno. They could have.


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[Assistant] For sure, I think Elder Scrolls Online really added a lot of cool stuff. And I know, Scott, you don't like it that a lot of people were Argonian fanboys before all this cool lore.


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[Assistant] Is there anything else we wanna say about the shadow scales? I do know that, I don't know the name of the tribe, but one of the tribes had perfected some kind of...


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[Assistant] Egg hatching tech, basically making them born under the sign of the shadow all the time. Which I thought was really cool.


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[Assistant] I think it falls in line with everything else we're saying about the Hist being so integral to Argonians. I wouldn't surprise me if, you know, in a sense, if they're giving them their souls, it is kinda like they're animating their form.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Maybe not with their like, you know, oh, lift your arm like this, but in the sense that their life force, their life energy, even though they're cold blooded is kind of like hist cultivated.


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[Assistant] It's a corrupted hyst sap tree. And there are other corrupt hysts. There's one tree that's leaking this like daedric amberplasm stuff, um, you know, to scrolls online.


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[Assistant] Another reason not to draw attention to themselves.


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[Assistant] You know, it's kind of like in real life where we're like, oh my gosh, this jellyfish is a mortal that lives forever. We should study this. And everyone goes, yeah, we should. And then they just don't.


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[Assistant] Sounds funny when you say certain point in history, like the way we just- Yeah.


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[Assistant] Interact with them. Like when we were talking about even the idea that different histories can have different, uhm, ideas for the directions they want the Argonians to be taken in and, you know, this one makes a deal with Molag Bao and this one gets corrupted and there's Daedric influence put upon it.


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[Assistant] I was thinking more, if a history can make a deal with Moloch Baal, according to daydrologist Drew here who just checked out what I said was right.


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[Assistant] And oh, taking me to your realm and these trees have been around forever and Daedra have been around pretty much forever. Why couldn't there have just been his trees that somehow ended up in a Daedric realm? It could, it could.


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[Assistant] That may be a boring take, like maybe, maybe, uhm, people want a more interesting, if you've got any ideas, Scott? Uhm, no, I think, uh,


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[Assistant] Do you think it could have anything to do with Sithus? I mean they, they have a...


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[Assistant] The Argonians will tell you themselves that they don't worship the histories. They do all these rituals and stuff and really respect them and I guess venerate them, but they're not like worshipping them like gods. Supposedly, their actions may indicate otherwise, but they have worshipped and many still do kind of


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[Assistant] worship Scythus and, and, and have a focus on Scythus and the histories even recognize Scythus and don't have a problem with it at all.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's all for the greater good of the histories who still haven't, uh, conquered this Shunitai concept. If you shouldn't be scared of impermanence, just go impermanent then. Just let yourself be killed. Why does it not?


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[Assistant] I don't know, it's, it's hard to say. I feel like the Hist is a double edged sword in the sense that an Argonian who cuts themselves off from the Hist is only going to be disadvantaged.


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[Assistant] It just looks like an argonian. Like this is the thing that it kind of, it's inconsistent because they can be born like mammals, right? Not by, from eggs.


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[Assistant] I assume, I mean, look, let's be real. None of us have seen a baby, any race baby, I don't think in any hell with a scrolls game. Uh, hatchlings are sad. This is interesting. They can walk like unlike a, like a baby that needs to be nurtured and held and put in a cot.


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[Assistant] Oh, whatever. They can just start walking, which is quite convenient.


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[Assistant] Well, have you actually looked at what a Hellstrom Ancestilis it is?


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[Assistant] For a lizard, sorry, it's like, obviously not, uh.


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[Assistant] But they're kind of connected to the sup. At least the ones with the egg pulls and stuff are, maybe. What, you're telling me an Argonian


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[Assistant] And they give them pacifiers made from hardened hist sap so that they can get it straight away.


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[Assistant] That's the same as the feet. It's so much easier to just give them the same form.


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[Assistant] They added them back in, I can't remember what mod, but I've got it on, and they look really good. They look like they should have been there from the start.


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[Assistant] To be fair, to be fair, for everyone listening, go and look up a Daggerfall Argonian. It looks very similar to the Skyrim one, in the sense of the dragon-like appearance, and like, go look it up now, both of you, if you don't know it off by memory. Daggerfall Argonians definitely look


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[Assistant] Actually, it seems like the female argonians in Daggerfall also had breasts.


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[Assistant] They kinda did it in Morrowind, it seemed to like more look like just a flat, uh.


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[Assistant] There's just something, look as much as I love Argonians, there's just something seedy about them that attracts some, uh, interesting people.


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[Assistant] But yea, I think that covers everything. It's been a bit of a longer podcast episode this time, which is only testament to the Argonians being the best race. So, uh, I'm sure if we did a Dark Elf episode, maybe it'll be three hours, but.


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[Assistant] Let's be, let's be real. It's, it's going to be longer than the orcs podcast because they're much more interesting.


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[Assistant] And, uh, we look forward to nerding out with you again very soon.


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[Assistant] In 2018, we went to a place called Luffy Foundation. They were about 50 children. I was so excited to meet them. I asked, oh, what's your name so that you can relate?


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[Assistant] What's your name? They don't have a name. Ah. So what do you call them?


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[Assistant] Boy, boy, boy, boy, if you're a girl, girl, girl, girl, girl, girl, anyone will answer. They will say no, it's this one that I'm calling. I will even talk about a 20 year old girl who came from Warwick to Lagos. She wanted to start a life, all of that. I asked, what's your name? Say, eh, that time they used to call her, ehm, Johnson. Why are they calling you Johnson? Apparently that's the man.


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[Assistant] First, I would say that there's no politician that didn't start from a young age.


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[Assistant] So you see the likes of Tinnumbo or Basunjo, all of them started from the age of thirties, twenties into politics. So from time immemorial, politics has always depended on young people to make sure that they take them to the next stage. So I feel like now is we are the young people now and we're also supposed to take that mantle.


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[Assistant] To take Nigeria to the next stage. Whether it has gotten bad or it has gotten better.


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[Assistant] It's just the job of the young people to take it where it's supposed to be or backward. Whatever it is.


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[Assistant] So we are not deceiving ourselves, we are not lying about young people doing these things.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would say that for me in 2019, I already had a foundation that was catering for vulnerable people in, you know, slum communities. And I looked at it, okay, so what do I do next from here? I'm already, the Okiki Foundation, the Okiki Foundation, what next? And one of my uncles said you could go into politics.


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[Assistant] The whole idea of going into politics is to better the lives of your community.


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[Assistant] So it sounds like it was impossible when I started, but then I now see how much people depended on a young person making it better, looking at it that all the people passed and gone are no longer going to take it to the next stage that it's going to be. This is the time for young people. And that's, that's my own opinion.


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[Assistant] He started from eight years ago. If he came all of a sudden and said, I want to run, they'll use that age to say, no, you can't do this. You can't do that. But he has.


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[Assistant] Turns out bad for the good people because when they don't win, there's monetary, there's social, there's mental, there's so many things that they have to sit back again and just feel like, okay, what have I lost? What have I gained? And then that's what helps them to say, okay, I would go again or then I'm


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[Assistant] I wanted to even talk, I think this blends in with the indigenship thing. I ran in a constituency where I'm from. My mom and my dad are both Ligashians.


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[Assistant] My father has his grand- his dad and his mom from Lagos. So he's like, Lagos, Lagos, Lagos, Lagos. And when I decided to run.


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[Assistant] That's why they started reminding me that. That's your name.


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[Assistant] And I was like, you know, my father, my father is a chief in this place. So how can you be relating me to?


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[Assistant] But as soon as they leave that meeting, they're like, mmm.


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[Assistant] This is not him talking about Igbo or Yoruba. This is me, full Yoruba state. Nobody's coming from Auguste. Nobody's coming from any other Yoruba state. This is a full Yoruba state.


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[Assistant] I had, I still had controversy with indigenship. What? So, it was like, when they left, they couldn't deny indigenship again. It went to female.


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[Assistant] This is, these are realities that, in fact, it's funny when you are on, when they are asking you.


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[Assistant] I didn't like all those markets. He was just saying so many things and I was like, oh please bros, rest.


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[Assistant] That's polling point. Every time is at the primaries, they throw you down.


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[Assistant] That's all. That's where you, that's the most, if they don't threaten you with your husband with, your child with...


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[Assistant] At some point, do you know during campaign, my dad used to tell us to leave our gate open.


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[Assistant] And this was somebody that I'd always had believed for. He had followed ACN to AC to, and I ran under another party entirely. But that man said, because that you are my daughter, and I know what you want to do.


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[Assistant] I've never received five naira from anybody since I got into this place.


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[Assistant] So anybody that comes to meet me, they- they busted him one night and they told him that,


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[Assistant] My dad is a navigator, but what cock he's got? What do you wanna do?


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[Assistant] I keep, at some point I said I was never going to talk about the sexual violence that women face in politics, but it is so, it is so deep that- I was coming there. It is so deep that most of the time when-


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[Assistant] Even when people that normally should support you, hear that you're running for office, the first thing is that, uh, you would have done one or show three, yeaah, yeaah, yeaah, yeaah, to even get the ticket. Mmm. Ah, watch it buy on soon. Yes. So there should be content, ah, ah, ah.


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[Assistant] There's also a point of desperation where you are like, okay, this guy say he will do it. Let me see if I can.


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[Assistant] And then me, I'm just like, if you feel like that's how you want to do it, I won't fault you. Maybe that's the point that you got to. I've been hit against the wall just because of you not give me care. You will not give me care. You that I know, you this small guy, I know I'm petty so I'm easy to carry and swipe on the floor.


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[Assistant] That's why I said that, there are certain points where I got home and I cried my eyes out and I'm like, I'm stop waiting now. It's not as if I wasn't eating well.


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[Assistant] It wasn't that, it wasn't that I know they chop well. Don't be saying anything. Who was it?


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[Assistant] Happened the, the arch do whatever, whatever I'm like.


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[Assistant] Where is the minority that claimed they were going to change the system by being elected?


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[Assistant] I didn't come here to fight with anybody. What I'm just trying, sorry. The point I'm just trying to make is that you are first a human before you are even a politician.


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[Assistant] My, my dad is a captain, is a, this is a, is still the most calm person that you find.


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[Assistant] They say they are quick to anger. They are quick to this. They want to, but when you, when we offend my dad, he's like,


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[Assistant] I have told you, you don't do these things like this. This is how you should do it.


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[Assistant] Why they see my papa and why they see other captains? Why is there, so it's first you are a human being before, I studied chemistry in school, I'm doing politics now.


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[Assistant] If, if I, tomorrow I can wake up and say I want to go back to, um, chemistry. But then, it's because I have thought about it and I feel like, yes, I'm a human being that wants


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[Assistant] I'm a human being that wants change. I'm a human being that wants my children to be able to say, oh, I like what you did there. I want to emulate. I like what, what somebody did there. I want to emulate. So what exactly is my, I'm not a, like they said, it takes a village to raise a child. I'm not enough for my family. They will go to school.


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[Assistant] They will make friends. They will talk to other people. So all these people now, who are they going to be?


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[Assistant] I thought about the females again. You find uhm, 13 year old, 12 year olds now getting pregnant and they're getting pregnant for somebody by the roadside because of maybe one, one nice meal.


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[Assistant] And then maybe, you fake android phone. And then, so many things like that. And I also say that, you know, they spoke about father figure, community figure, where you grow up, what your value system is yourself.


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[Assistant] So, morals. If I grew up in a house where my father beats my mom.


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[Assistant] There's a tendency that will demand that I'm looking for.


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[Assistant] So, most of the times when I have 13, 12 year olds to 15, 16 year olds, what I teach them is self-esteem, value, morals, being able to say no.


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[Assistant] Because there's a way the guy would want to catch you in a particular space that you'd be like, I had no choice.


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[Assistant] But to do it and then speaking out even after it is done.


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[Assistant] So these are issues that, that child, we took that child away from that family first. That was the first thing, when everybody was saying,


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[Assistant] Bring her. Let her face ask her. How did he do it? You don't ask a child that.


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[Assistant] We will pay pay pay pay pay for a child who was molested.


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[Assistant] So these are, these are issues that if, if we really look at it.


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[Assistant] Let's imagine that the girl was 10 and she got pregnant and maybe they go and check her in the hospital. She cannot abort. She has to give birth to the child. She gives birth to that child with pain.


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[Assistant] She has, she keeps doing that all around. She probably will have maybe five kids for five different men that have no responsibility to take care. She has added to population.


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[Assistant] Without us thinking about this useless population.


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[Assistant] Do you understand? Now she already has five kids for five different men that don't care. Those five men would have met other women that they probably would have done the same to. We now have almost 30, 40 kids who are going to grow up to not have any value in life.


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[Assistant] So if we're talking about popo, eh, population by 2050, which is what's, or what's demo, I mean what's...


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[Assistant] A set of children are going to make up that by 2050.


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[Assistant] One is the girl, she ran away. She refused after she gave birth. They can't find her again. They said maybe she moved to another. Another one is the auntie. Another one, anytime she goes, she always comes back with pregnancy. When she drops that one, she's off again.


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[Assistant] And then these kids are growing, they're making them realize that you bastard, you don't even know what we want to do to you, with you.


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[Assistant] I first went, when I first went there, the school was taking fifteen naira every pad.


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[Assistant] I was like, okay, in one year, 18 to 50, I started raising money for


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[Assistant] One year we'll send the child to school. At some point the landlord of that place told the guy that there's one church that wants to buy the place, so he's going to send them off.


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[Assistant] They don't have names. In, in 2018, we went to a place called Luffy Foundation. They were about 50 children. I was so excited to meet them. I asked, oh, what's your name? So that you can relate.


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[Assistant] What's your name? They don't have name. Ah. What? So what do you call them?


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[Assistant] Boy, boy, boy, boy, if you're a girl, girl, girl, girl, girl, girl, anyone will answer, they will say no, it's this one that I'm calling. So.


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[Assistant] Where's the identity? So they are even struggling with identity.


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[Assistant] Do you understand? They can't say that this is my name, not talk about saying that I have a birth certificate. And we won't talk about a 20 year old girl who came from Warito, Lagos.


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[Assistant] She wanted to start a life, all of that. I asked, what's your name? Say, eh, that time, they used to call her, ehm, Johnson. The email. Why are they calling you Johnson? Apparently, that's the man, that's the man that raped the mother.


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[Assistant] That Johnson day okay. Okay, so what did you come and do in Lagos? She was tired of worry. She doesn't want to stay and worry again.


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[Assistant] The older sister, everybody that the mother gave her to, one is going to prison every day, one is, one is this, one is that, they're all just, and she just felt like the best thing to do is to run away and come to Lagos. I've been telling her that Lagos is, when I started asking her questions, apparently she had slept in,


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[Assistant] We have to have her at home. First go and do full body check up. Are you okay?


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[Assistant] Oh, there's no disease, there's nothing, there's this. Come and write where, come and start reading. What do you want to do?


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[Assistant] Do you understand? But that's a 20 year old without an identity. No surname, just Johnson.


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[Assistant] So imagine how many people have even manipulated her.


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[Assistant] To even get her, I even had to, I like, at some point the doctor was trying to ask her, um, if she has ever gotten pregnant before, if she has aborted, if she has, why we were asking her. I said please don't ask her such questions.


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[Assistant] Just check her if she's okay as you have seen her.


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[Assistant] And then maybe somebody would have suggested wanting that thing for her from the hookup girls that she would have met. So it's, it's just...


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[Assistant] It's extremely crazy how far this thing has gone.


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[Assistant] In terms of identity, in terms of population, in terms of quality of people that, that are even growing, in terms of self-esteem, in terms of relationships, you understand?


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[Assistant] They, all they have ever known is survival.


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[Assistant] Choose where you want to, how you want to make your money for that day.


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[Assistant] See that po, that person that is going, rob the person, take the phone, take the this, that one too. You already has one friend that you saw that time too, that they were both hustling to make it, tell this out to make it. Before you know, you have five gang, you have one million boys.


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[Assistant] So you see men on that side, you see women on that side, and all these people, all these unknown men also have wives that they need to produce. If you produce a female, she's going to be the bait to get male. If you produce a male, he's going to be the soldier that you will train to become, to take over.


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[Assistant] Okay, I'm not in the label party, but I, I'm just going to talk in general.


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[Assistant] Politician is, is like an open book.


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[Assistant] There's you and then there's the world. There are a few things that you might be able to defend. There are some that is just better left to just die a natural death. There are some that will fight your, your values so much that you have to just talk back. But you know,


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[Assistant] I think we have learned to not talk out of emotions anymore. And they now talk out of, even if you talk with emotion or with logic or with spiritual thought or with Bible verse or Quran verse, they will still interpret it and use another Bible verse to support or oppose what you just said. So uhm,


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[Assistant] Politics is politics, but particularly women are big. Please, where's the front of the camera that I can look? Yes, they are women. Please run. If you don't want to run, join the political movement. If you are looking for who to...


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[Assistant] I assume that'd be the first name mentioned. Yep. I love my boy Perriite. I'm gonna have to defend him. Go for it. Alright. Alright, well do you wanna, do you wanna say why he's so, uh, you know, kind of...


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, as you've already mentioned, it's like, it's so important to say right now before the thousands of people, you know, say we've got it wrong, but basically,


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[Assistant] There's no such thing as strongest. They're not like humans. They don't really pay attention to what we think is power. They're all, you know, we can't really understand them the same way. It's not like looking at a king. So, you know, we understand that, but we're kind of, you know, it'd be pointless if you just said, oh, nothing matters anyway. We've at least got to try and kind of, you know, look at


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[Assistant] Yeah, so if I'm gonna stick up for Perriot, it's like, I kind of agree, he's, he is bottom tier, but just to throw him a small bone so that we can't like definitively say he's, you know, terrible, uhm, the idea of natural order, at least my interpretation of it when I was talking about Perriot in a video, was that if, if that's going to plan,


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[Assistant] Then you shouldn't really be paying attention to it, if that makes sense. So if, if everything is progressing normally and nobody's thinking about peri-ite, then that's his natural order in action. So it's him being successful. He wants to operate.


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[Assistant] Well, I think people generally think he's very powerful, because I mean, obviously, you've got the story of the Daedric princes coming together to screw him over, basically, and turn him into Sheogorath, but uhm, I mean,


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[Assistant] I might come off as the contrarian in most of these just because it's fun. That's what I do. But uhm, I like, uh, when I was thinking about Jigalag, he's kind of...


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[Assistant] Trying to establish order in Oblivion, which is just naturally so chaotic. It's like, you can't really put order to all this chaos. And then you've got the Grey March, which is his bringing order, but then every time he does it, it counts for nothing. He has to do it all over again. And that's kind of the definition of insanity as well.


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[Assistant] So, so you know, it's kind of like he was always destined to turn out as Sheregorov and be completely mad.


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure it's period. I just can't go down the rabbit hole of making sure you pronounce these really obscure words perfectly. It's like, come on, it doesn't matter that much. You know exactly who we're talking about, so it's fine.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Her sphere is literally the void, the ancient darkness. So it's, it's kind of a bit mysterious.


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[Assistant] They're just kind of dirty and they just want to hide in the dark and, you know, they're filthy and if someone tries to liberate them or, you know, turn their lives around then Namir is like, nah, kill those priests. I want my followers to suffer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I'm only just thinking about this so I could be wrong in some aspects, but I guess it comes down to the initial definitions of Aedra being our ancestors, so the ancestors to mortals, and Daedra being not our ancestors. So if the Magnege, even though Magnus and, you know, the god of


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[Assistant] Then you have Hamaeus Mora, who's a Daedric Prince, despite the idea that he was created from the leftover scraps of creating the world. So it's hazy for him as well.


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[Assistant] Her, well, her realm is kind of, I think it's almost literally a reflection of aetherius, isn't it? Cause I can't remember the exact terminology from the book I read, but, um,


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[Assistant] Well, something else to put on Meridia's resumes. You could say she's involved in the creation of Meirin's Dagon as well.


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[Assistant] I'm double checking to make sure I've got this right, that she was still involved with the Magnege, but the idea was that Meirin's Dagon was created in the bowels of Lig by the Magnege. They were trying to create a god of hope.


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[Assistant] Well, I think it specifically says the Magne-Gee, but this, I guess it would have been before they left, they fled, because, I mean, it's the Dawn era, so everything's a little bit shaky.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I love Malacath, but any argument I make for him wouldn't be arguing that he's in any way more powerful than other Daedric princes. Like, I like the kind of patriarchal aspects of him where he's, you know,


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[Assistant] Even though he was corrupted, he's still somewhat honorable, like Trinamac before, so you can, you know, talk about how he maintained aspects of...


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[Assistant] You know, the hero champion of Oriel, but at the same time Trinimac was never the most powerful entity ever anyway, so even that argument wouldn't really push him up.


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[Assistant] There's the idea that Mafala came and stabbed him in the back when Buephia distracted him, or the other way around.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and they're basically whatever the individual mortal wants. So it doesn't really have its own identity.


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[Assistant] I would have put, I mean, this is all mid tier, but I was gonna say if there was a bottom of mid tier, I'd put Clavicus Vile. I think. And I'd put Nocturnal above him, but I'd put them both in the middle tier, personally.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so you'd put Mafala, I mean, this isn't the conversation, but you'd put Mafala at the height of the Good Daedra. You'd say she's the best of the three.


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[Assistant] I should know what that's called. But uhm, I mean while we look, I think one of the cool things about Clavicus Vile is he naturally attracts the coolest stories. Wait, what's it called?


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[Assistant] But I think he naturally has really cool stories associated with him because, because of the bargains, he's kind of always putting himself at risk of getting himself into trouble and accidentally giving away his power and things like that. Cause it's like, one way I interpret Clavicus Vial is he's not trying to trap you into


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[Assistant] I think he gives that to them. Unless I'm mistaking it for a different artifact altogether, but- I think it is a different artifact.


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[Assistant] Well, cause if you're purely talking about artifacts, you could argue that she's the best if you're just talking about artifacts. But yea, there's a lot that kind of- I mean, one thing I-


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[Assistant] Like about Nocturnal is, you kind of get the idea that, you know, she's this edgy emo, like Lord of the Darkness or whatever, but...


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[Assistant] I've always associated her darkness with the shadows. The idea is that her darkness is supposed to be useful. You know, you're not, you know, it's, it's for thieves to use. And the other thing is that because her followers are thieves.


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[Assistant] It's more like they're business associates than actual worshipers or followers.


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[Assistant] I think what I like about her scene is kind of similar to what I like about Clavicus Vial, is that the, you know, the Aedra seem very rigid, they're your gods who you worship, but what I like about the Daedra


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[Assistant] Is their kind of willingness to just play around. It's fun to meddle with the mortal realm.


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[Assistant] And her scene, like Clavicus Vile, I get the idea that he's not cruel, and he, like, if someone is his prey, he's not just gonna, like, butcher them for no reason. He likes to have the competition, and the competition, you know, you have to give your prey.


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[Assistant] So they, they actually have a chance to win, and I feel like if someone beats him and, you know, takes his hide or whatever, he's actually really happy about it.


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[Assistant] Yes, that's what I like about him. But then again, he wasn't so happy when Shagoroth beat him. No.


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[Assistant] I feel like if you're bringing his, um, Realm of Oblivion into it, he would be right up the top.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I'll have to like, double check with the texts, and you might be able to tell me if I get anything wrong here, but I feel like, of the good Daedra, when the Kaima first became the changed ones and moved to Morrowind, or Resdain as it was called then,


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[Assistant] Boifia was behind most of it. He was the, like, the kind of catalyst for the change. Azura and Mafala were involved. Like, Azura, I think, helped them build their homes. I hope I'm not getting that bit wrong, but- I think- Or was that Boifia?


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[Assistant] This is kind of, I guess I'm bringing subjective ideas into it, but I think I'd associate their political formation with Mafala because the idea of lies and deception is your way to get the political upper hand. I associate that with Mafala. I associate with Boethiah the idea of changing because


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean obviously Buifia is the one who shamed Trinimac, but then also Buifia kind of gives them the idea that, uhm, which is at the foundation of Dunmer and Kaima people, is that


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[Assistant] Mortality is a test, so it's all about getting good and overcoming it and kind of reaching apotheosis by beating mortality essentially.


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[Assistant] Well, a lot of Boethiah is just enjoying watching mortals fight to the death and then choosing the most powerful mortal to be her champion or his champion.


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[Assistant] Um, and then if, I mean, if you're looking at just that source, cause it's talking about Boethiah, it kind of gives Boethiah all the credit. So it's like, you know, told the mass, the mass of people gathered, the triangle truth.


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[Assistant] The rule of Sigic Endeavour, how to build houses, how to change your skin, how to achieve exodus, all of this kind of gets directly attributed to Boethiah, but it's obviously, as you've already said, kind of, it's an effort, it's the combined efforts of all of them.


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[Assistant] Well, it automatically weakens a prince just to have them fail to invade Tamriel, because Moloch Baal being defeated by the Vestige, I think is the name of the protagonist in CSO, inherently is going to make him seem less powerful and less cool. I mean, you know, he's the prince of domination, but he got


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[Assistant] He's beaten in a 1v1, although I think he had a few other people helping, but still, you know, he lost, so he can't be that good.


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[Assistant] We've got a video on the channel that compares both of the invasions and that's, that's, I mean, I don't want to spoil it, but it kind of comes down to that, that Meirin's Dagon, so long as he insights change, he, he can't really lose. Plus he came a lot closer anyway.


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[Assistant] One of the coolest things about Merrin's Dagon is the idea that...


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[Assistant] He's, at one point in time, he can be, you know, your worst enemy, uhm, and then he's your best friend. It's all about, he kind of, he represents the bottom. Whoever's on the bottom, he's the perfect tool to kind of just...


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[Assistant] Call on Mehrunes Dagon because he's all about, you know, the hope of the, the, the downtrodden and you, you know, so.


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[Assistant] Well, I've got a quote here that I used in the Azura video that was, Vanity well-fed is benevolent. Vanity hungry is spiteful. And that kind of sums her up perfectly, but there's also a story of the Dwemer essentially tricking her. Uh, there was a Dwemer like- Azura in the box. Yeah. So I can't, what exactly happened? Can you remember exactly what happened in that?


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[Assistant] Basically, it was along the lines of, um, she wrongly predicted what was in the box as, and that was the Dwemer way of showing that she wasn't as powerful as she thought she was or something. And she really disliked being deceived like that.


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[Assistant] I mean, how impressive of a feat is changing their skin colour? Like, how often do Daedric Princes have that much of an effect over mortals? Is there much-


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[Assistant] Which I don't think other Daedric Princes really do. So, you know, I'm kind of playing devil's advocate contrarian against myself here, but she's actually pretty...


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[Assistant] I mean, you can kind of associate all deception with Mafala, and lying in deception is pretty powerful.


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[Assistant] No, you're not. There's the argument that the Night Mother is literally just an aspect of Mephala. So she is the wife of Sifis.


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[Assistant] I might be giving her too much credit, but I kind of associate all manipulation.


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[Assistant] So anytime mortals are manipulating one another, lying to another, uh, deceiving or assassinating, all of the, the butterfly effects that happen from someone being assassinated or deceived is kind of her at work.


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[Assistant] That would be my top three. And then I'd maybe, maybe put the good Daedra together after that.


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[Assistant] I would do, uhm, Shagor a third. I mean, my favourite isn't involved here, because I don't think any of these are my favourites, but I'm kind of looking at it, not through my own eyes, basically, but more kind of trying to look at it slightly more objectively. But then I'd put, I think I'd put Hamaeus more a second and Meirin's Daegon first.


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[Assistant] When he's portrayed in Oblivion, you really don't see one whole side of him, even when he's being threatening. It never really feels dangerous, whereas I got the vibe from The Sixteen Accords of Madness.


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[Assistant] He could be really unhinged, like terrifying unhinged, whereas you don't really see his full mental illness, you kind of more just see him- He is like a bit more- He's a great like a leprechaun type, like you know, he's-


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[Assistant] He's just not- I don't think he was portrayed as well as he could be, but he was portrayed as well as you'd want for like, the mainstream appeal. You don't want him to be depressive.


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[Assistant] So I think Hamaeus Mora would be the best if his knowledge was more...


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[Assistant] Useful, more viable, you know, people who've tried to access his knowledge.


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[Assistant] One thing I'd say about Merrin's Dagon, which I can't say for anyone else, is there's never ever gonna be a time where people aren't worshipping him.


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[Assistant] Because, for example, if I just use the dregs as an example, Meryn Stagon was arguably created to take down the dreg kings, whereas if you look at the dreg now, you can argue that the seaborne ones are still intelligent, but they, you know, they get fished to death, and when they come on land, they're just mad. Whereas, uhm,


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[Assistant] So, they're now downcast and they have a re- they could potentially start worshipping Merun's Dagon because they want revolution or something, so,


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[Assistant] There's always going to be people who want liberation or revolution because, you know, what's destruction to the empire is liberation to someone else. You know, so I think Marion Stagon is the best because he's the most valuable.


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[Assistant] But you always take it with a grain of salt, right? Because I mean, Boethiah's realm is portrayed as basically the Deadlands as well, so...


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[Assistant] It's not, but that's the way it is in that, in that game. So I kind of, it's the same when we were talking about Meridia's coloured rooms, you know, you can see how it's portrayed in ESO, but I kind of just...


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[Assistant] Because it's oblivion, I just read it as, oh, this is how it's portrayed right now, but it's completely subject to change. And I still see it as like a, you know, a realm of reflected light or whatever else. Yeah, fair enough.


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[Assistant] I mean, although one change, I'd put periite just above marion's take on. That's the last change though.


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[Assistant] But I like her scene, I like Sanguine, I like Peria as well, so. And Clavicus Vile. So, pretty much the weak one.


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[Assistant] Instead of loading screens you have really long waiting rooms.


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[Assistant] I'd say I didn't really take power into consideration much at all, except for maybe one or two of my top ten, but that would be interesting. Okay. Yeah. But I know what you mean. Me too. It does kind of, yeah, like, cause if they're powerful, then they impact the world much more and they're more involved in the stories and therefore they just become more interesting.


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[Assistant] I think a big part of my top ten was deciding which one had the coolest story associated with it, and the Rufalax has a kind of interesting story with the, uh,


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[Assistant] With the guy whose daughter became a hersene worshipper and his way of curing her was to slay her with this axe basically. So it's an interesting story but it's not nearly as cool as some of them that we're gonna get onto.


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[Assistant] What were your reasons for bumping it to a maybe or having it as a maybe? Is there anything in particular or just cause it's kinda cool?


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[Assistant] I mean, I like Azura's Star, but not enough to put it in the top 10. I mean, like, actually getting the kind of experience being inside of it was really cool, and the fact it can be corrupted into the Black Star, it's kind of a- it's a good demonstration of Azura's Sphere, you know, like the, uh,


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[Assistant] Just written. What do you think? So I've, I've kind of merged my opinion on the black books with my opinion on the Ogma Infinium, cause there was a few books to choose from and I'm-


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[Assistant] I mean, me saying this could give it away, but I actually have a book very high up the list, but it's not the Black Book and it's not the Ogmere Infinium. It's the Mysterium Xarxes. But we'll talk about that.


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[Assistant] Esterium's Arxys specifically has some really cool reasons why, I mean, uhm, it was high in my list and then it got even higher, so, but that's neither here nor there. So the Ogmere Infinium and the Black Books are cool, but because there's a book I think is way cooler, I didn't really bother ranking them.


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[Assistant] What's cool about the Ogremin Finium, it's one of those one-sentence things where it says, you know, it was made from Xarxes' favourite moments in history and, you know, named after his wife. And I really like the aesthetic of it, at least in Skyrim or Oblivion in Skyrim, I think, is that, you know, it's kind of made from the hides of different races.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that's all cool, but yeaah, I agree that probably the black books, on a non-asphetic level anyway, are more interesting.


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[Assistant] Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a relatively standard Daedric weapon? It's just its scarcity after the Battle Spire incident that made it an artifact? Or was it always an artifact?


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm fairly sure that, like, the, ehm, Mehrunes Dagon's armies were all wielding them, but they were all destroyed when the battle spire incident failed, and one was kept going, and it basically, now it's an artifact. So it's not that it's necessarily proud.


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[Assistant] Okay, cause I actually kind of find it kind of boring, a bit generic. So I'm curious to hear why you guys put it in the top 10.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like when an artifact sums up a prince pretty well. I think it's just, it's kind of, um, it's detrimental that it's just a katana. But, but yeah, go on Michael.


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sold now on that being a top 10 contender out of the ones we've gone through.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think it's a bit lackluster. Yeah, I'm sort of in it. For Boethiah, there could have been something much cooler for, for the piece of armor that, um, he gives to the champion, so yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think the ebony mayor was really boring to look at.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I mean, Goldbrand, yeah, Goldbrand is cool, but there also isn't a great deal of interesting information on it. Uhm, I mean, what, what happened in legend, it came up in legends, didn't it, the card game?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it could be, but it just hasn't been fleshed out, uhm, properly, so there's not enough to talk about.


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[Assistant] It just looks so bad. Weirdly, the fact it looks kind of dull, it seems fitting at least for what it is. You know, the idea that it's anonymity and you know, you get away with things with it. So it's just basically, literally just kind of like a grey balaclava with some daydreams on it.


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[Assistant] By the way, just to clear up, the reason it's called Mask spelt M-A-S-Q-U-E is because it's kind of like the renaissance era masquerade. Yeah, right. Which perfectly sums up what it does. But go on, Scott.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's hilarious to imagine, you know, it's as deceptive as it is. And if it, if it looks the way it's portrayed in say Morrowind or Oblivion, where it's this, you know, the horned helmet and the guy with the, uh, the goatee.


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[Assistant] You can just imagine this woman wearing that, like for 21 years or whatever, having their children together, and he doesn't realise anything is wrong while he kisses this stoneless metal mask.


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[Assistant] Sorry, go on. I was just gonna say, I think because of the way Clavicus Vile is all about pacts and deals, he's naturally gonna have the most interesting artifacts, in my opinion.


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[Assistant] So that was, that was at my number six when I was, when I was theorizing this, but then I was looking at it again this morning and just going over it all. And I'm like, actually it's my number one. I have those moments as well.


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[Assistant] Like, um, I'll, I'll, let Scott talk about it first, cause I'll probably fawn over it for a little bit, but I mean, it's one of those things where there's a sentence, the desert, written in the desert of rust and wounds that might be my favourite sentence from Elder Scrolls lore, just period. But, um, I'll talk more about it in a sec.


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[Assistant] So to me, there's a few things that sets it apart from all the other books on this list. But I mean, first, like, I really like how Mankar Cameron describes it. He says,


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[Assistant] I'd say, yeaah, the biggest chaotic event in the whole of, you know, in Tamriel's recent history at least. Uhm, that you gotta give credit to the Mysterium Xarxes for that.


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[Assistant] So that's another ring that's kind of, it's a bit, you know, it's whatever, but it has a decent story with, uh, Rajin, the, you know, the bug, the Khajiit, um, and that's a cool story, stealing off, uh, Mafala's arm. Um, but other than that, there's not a great deal that's that special to me about it. Yeah, same.


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[Assistant] So you hit the nail on the head with that for me because I had it in my top 10.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but my problem with it is game mechanics. I think having it just be a tool to summon Dramora or Daedra in general is...


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[Assistant] You know, you, you get what you want and then you realize, oh, you know, instant gratification. It's like, it, it.


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[Assistant] I kinda, I like the idea, well, it's very, it's very low in the top ten, and by low I mean nine or ten.


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[Assistant] I like that it's called Defender of the Friendless and you know, it kind of, it does sum up Malakath pretty well. You know, it's like the Bane of Daedra.


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[Assistant] Uhm, even though he's a Daedric Prince, so it's kind of like, it's cool. It's kind of a little bit of Trinimac left in him almost, uhm, that's coming through in that artifact, but I wasn't too fond of it, not enough to put it way up there.


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[Assistant] So, I mean, I put it on there as well, but, um, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I was reading this before and I feel like this is, um, this is all pretty viable, but it kind of ties in in a cool way to the Khajiit pantheon, because the idea is that Azura created the Khajiit.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and protected them with this lunar lattice. And the idea is that Nocturnal actually stole it from Azura.


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[Assistant] And, uh, so when it says that the key can open, I don't know the exact words, but your potential and then other, you know, Michael, you might be able to find the specific thing it says, but it can unlock


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like that story. That made me like it a lot more, cause yeah, apart from being visually really cool, it didn't really jump out to me until that story. So I don't really mind if it's on top 10, but I do like it. For me, it's not. Was it in your top 10? No, it didn't actually get there, but I was tossing it up.


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[Assistant] I ended up not ranking it purely because there was a different artifact of her scenes that I prioritized, so. But yea.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I-I had it in there. Uh, I was- I was actually tossing up between that and Volendrung, you know, kind of part of the Rourken story, but-


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[Assistant] Oh yea, so I guess we mentioned Saviour's Hide, but I was probably in a realm of oblivion on my own at that point. But I actually put Saviour's Hide in my top 10. I'm a big fan of it. There's a few origin stories for it, but I really like the idea.


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[Assistant] There was a- a mortal in the- in Hursin's hunting grounds. Who probably, you know, like- like anyone who's trapped there would just become prey. Except he managed to escape.


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[Assistant] And you know, because her scene, like what I really like about that prince is that he's like, he's magnanimous in defeat and he respects the competition. So the ultimate respect to this, uhm, this guy who escaped was to peel off his own hide and give it to him as a gift.


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[Assistant] And that's why, for me, that's one of the coolest stories about the origins of a, of an artifact.


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[Assistant] I think when it came down to Umbra, the Xarxes and the Mask, I was very much like, any of these can be a winner for me. I was really happy, because yeah, Umbra's story is amazing as well, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're all interchangeable, it's just such a cool story. Uhm, so I think, I mean, I think we can lock Umbra in at number one.


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[Assistant] It's got a nice little story. Yeah, the story about, um, the Rourken chief, you know, when, when separating from the clans in Morrowind or Resdain at the time, just launch the hammer and wherever it landed is where they'd settle. And that's, you know, that's why it's called Vollenfell, Hammerfell. It's named after the artifact, which is a cool story.


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[Assistant] I think the fork of her appellation is more interesting. I agree, I honestly agree, unironically. But it is, it's a cool, it's a really cool looking staff and it's kind of just a, you know, a shout out to Sheregorov being whimsical and kind of a bit nutty.


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[Assistant] I think you've sold it to me, but I would say Mysterium Xarxes needs to be higher on the list than Blackbooks. So long as that's met, I'm happy.


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[Assistant] What was your 10? What's your 10, Drew? Uhm, I mean, my 10 is, some of it has kinda changed, cause like, as a joke, I had wabberjacket 10. So, I feel like there's only like 5 or 6 I'm gonna go to bat for here, so. But what is kind of like your 10?


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[Assistant] Uh, Xarxes at number 1, Mask at number 2, Umbra, Grey Cow, Skeleton Key, I had Sanguine Rose in there.


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[Assistant] Um, Saviour's Hide, Scourge, Fallen Drung, stuff like that. So, so most of them.


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[Assistant] Good idea, right? Just read Lovecraft, you don't even need to bop with a blackboard.


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[Assistant] So we just need one spot to fill. You know, where I would put the Xarxes in there. Uhm, I think the Xarxes more interesting than the Blackbooks. Uhm, is there any other artifact that deserves to be in top five? Like, would you put Spellbreaker or Dawnbreaker in there? No. Yeaah, so I guess it kinda comes down to those two. Unless there's something I'm forgetting.


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[Assistant] Just pick your choice of book to go in the top five. Oh, that's a lot of pressure.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Okay. I mean, I mean, there is a translation of the Mysterium's arxies, but it's, it's Curse Bride. Okay. But it is, I mean, look, he basically, I'm sure he was a big part of conceptualizing the Mysterium's arxies. You know, there are lines like,


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[Assistant] As for the rest, the weak shall cast down, the mighty shall, oh, as for the rest, the weak shall cast, shall be cast down, the mighty shall tremble. Um, yeah, okay, this is like, it's written like the, uh, dead inside, do not open or whatever. So it's like, I'm reading different sentences together, but, um, yeah.


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[Assistant] Honestly, the rest I think you two should just put together, because there's nothing else that I really wanna defend. All the good stuff is done there.


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[Assistant] If we're gonna have a Hircine Artifact, just pick one of them. Uh, you, you, I don't, hm.


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[Assistant] Wait, is Spellbreaker not already in there? Yeah, it is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and the story would serve to just legitimize his rule that he's like the ultimate Cyrodiil dude.


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[Assistant] Because magic is very arbitrary and ambiguous, so it's like, the gods are innately powerful in a magical way, and they're using their power or magic to create this mortal realm, and you know, Mundus, sorry, Mundus Magnus is there drawing up the blueprints for Lorcan's mortal realm,


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[Assistant] And then he realises that uhm, all of the involved aedra are gonna have to invest a huge amount of their, their power in keeping this thing running and keeping it alive. So he's just like, oh, I want no part of this. And he just, you know, yeets himself into the sky.


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[Assistant] Uhm, all of his followers go with him, which if you look at the night sky, there's quite a few of them. And they, yeaah, they just tear Rift straight through the skybox. And, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, they tend to overlap as well. There's a lot of areas where you're like, that could easily be, um, a spell in another school. It's just kind of, yeah, as I've said before, it's very arbitrary. It's just as a means to make it easier to focus on.


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[Assistant] It's like a way of simplifying, uh, how you can look at alteration is it's very much about just kind of like,


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[Assistant] They're like, when they go in, a bunch of Imperials get slaughtered.


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[Assistant] But they can't find the people doing it and that's because these, these alyds are levitating up to the walls or hiding under the, under the water and just water breathing and then whenever a nightfall comes they'll come out and murder a load of imperials and disappear again and that's kind of like the, the beginnings of their alteration spells.


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[Assistant] Uh, imagining, imagining the early days of discovering magic is, is really fascinating to me because, you know, like when, in the, um, Morefic times when the, the Ayleids and the Doreni are two good examples, a kind of,


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[Assistant] Dabbling in these, in these arts. There's so much mystery to them. You just don't, you don't realize how much danger can be involved. You know, you've got the Dorenne kind of founding the school of conjuration.


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[Assistant] And you just imagine that they don't really know what they're doing, but they're like peering into the cavernous darkness of oblivion and the void and just like not knowing what's on the other end.


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[Assistant] Well, adding order, yeah, adding order is adding limitation, isn't it? Like even, even when you imagine the creation of the mortal realm, you know, they're drawing up the schematics of this from like raw creation energy and they're putting limits on it to make it the mortal realm. You know, the mortal realm is full of limitation.


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[Assistant] Well, to follow on from that, uhm, you could use that as a good example of why mysticism as a school isn't really commonplace anymore. Because when you look at how mysticism is described, it's very much that intuitive


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[Assistant] You know, just going with the flow and trying to find patterns from nothing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that, you know, I was just gonna say that's the exact distinction I try to make between alteration and illusion is that, you know, illusion, even though the mind you could argue is part of nature and like the laws of physics and all that, it's like illusion is specifically messing with the mind and it's making you think something has changed versus alteration where it literally has changed. But, you know.


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[Assistant] And while you were on Mysticism, I found that exact quote you were talking about was so facile. It is, it's interesting, but it almost raises more questions than any answers, but it says,


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[Assistant] There are layers to understanding all things said so facile. The common man looks at an object and fits it into a place.


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[Assistant] In his way of thinking, those skilled in the old ways, in the way of the sigic, in mysticism, can see an object and identify it by its proper role. But one more layer is needed to be peeled back to achieve understanding. You must identify the object by its role and its truth and interpret that meaning.


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[Assistant] Okay cool, I'm even worse at mysticism now than when we started.


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[Assistant] So that's the way I see formatoji. It's kind of like, even though it's magic in the same way all the others are, it's very much like performing miracles.


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[Assistant] Which, you know, most magic is, in a way, you could say it's performing miracles, but it's kind of almost got that, um, you know, that, that mythical, um, sense to it of just performing a miracle out of nothing is, is kind of what formaturgy is.


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[Assistant] I think the most interesting thing about Destruction and Restoration is finding the similarities between them. So, for example, with Destruction, you know, you've got all your typical damage-dealing, um, spells, but then you've got people like, uh, a mage called Vexus Velruan,


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[Assistant] Who became addicted to the purification process of using destruction to like cause pain to


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[Assistant] Just like to deal with, so say for example, cause I'm gonna word this poorly, is uhm, like say you need to cauterize a wound, you know, that feels like restoration, but if you, if you, you know, put fire magic destruction spell on a wound that needs cauterizing, you're using it to heal, which is kind of what this mage was delving into. And then with restoration, you have the kind of sun-based spells, which,


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[Assistant] Uhm, which deal damage, but because...


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[Assistant] Because you're dealing with the undead, it's almost like you're restoring them from this undeath, from this cursed, corrupted state.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be surprised if that was like a UI thing in gameplay was just to stop you cycling through different types of arrows. So they just wanted it to basically mean you, you equip this bow, you're going to get that effect versus like, oh, you know, I want to shoot these arrows here and now need to go into the menus, equip this one. A lot of it I think does come down to gameplay, which


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[Assistant] I mean, like, and continuing on from that, you know, it's kind of like, it's, everybody knows that the, especially Magic has been kind of dumbed down as the games have progressed, but do you think now that it's got huge mainstream appeal, you know, Skyrim compared to Morrowind, they can start adding a lot of stuff back without the risk of just being a niche game?


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[Assistant] I hate it, but I feel like, I hate, um, like the combat gameplay of Elder Scrolls games. It's like the one thing I would never play it for. You know what I mean? It's just, I hope they really revamp it completely from the ground up. You know?


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[Assistant] You kind of negate stats in a way when you have like the tactical dance of fighting. So I understand that. It's like your stats don't come into play if there's so many, you know, if it comes down to reactions a lot of the time, then.


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[Assistant] How do you feel about the potential of, you know, in games like Skyrim, the reality is, it doesn't matter what build you want to be, but at the end of the day, you're gonna be incredible at everything.


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[Assistant] Like did, I kind of think it would be a better experience if you were forced to decide between skills. You know, we were just talking about it with a quick cast. I feel like you can, you should either be able to be a very good mage or be able to be a very good warrior. I think that's better for replayability.


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[Assistant] Because I think a fundamental thing for mortals, just, you know, real world and elder scrolls, you can see it in a bunch of cultures, is their burial rights. It's so important, you know, you've got RK in some situations, and the way the Dunmer do it is very, you know, it's following, it's almost ritualistic, you know, and if you kind of deprive a mortal of that,


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[Assistant] That path, you know, the closure of their existence.


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[Assistant] Yeah, even if souls weren't involved, I think people would still be against it, because it's the visual, the visceral sense of raising the physical vessel for this soul up from the dead. Even though, you know, if you say that the soul's not involved, then it's completely


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[Assistant] You know, it's technically completely fine and nobody's being harmed in the process. You don't want to see it. You know, you don't want to see it.


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[Assistant] I think messing with the cycle of life and death in the Elder Scrolls is always gonna be taboo and it even is with, you know, the path to lichdom, like, ehm, even if you're only messing with yourself, you know, if you harm to no others in the process, it would still be despicable to most people, cause you're...


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[Assistant] You know, you're interrupting the natural way of things, you know, mortality.