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[Assistant] As an entity sort of has an interaction between the different pantheons, but I like that because of Storm and him being in, in, in the eight divines, he's also a, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, like the god of justice and sort of an imperial divine I like because now he's really entrenched in, in the, in the men, uh, sphere of,


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[Assistant] His mercy made him an apologist to men from the elves perspective, but his mercy made him a god of ransom to the Nordic perspective. And then in between, like his mercy to the, I like the different interpretations of mercy too, so like


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[Assistant] His mercy to the undead and to the daedric and stuff is killing them, ridding them because put them out of their misery kind of vibe. So I just kind of.


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[Assistant] Like, and then obviously there's the vigilance of Stendarr and the things that sort of, uhm, come from him. But, uhm,


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm open. I had Arkay pretty low in my top 10, but.


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[Assistant] Okay, not before- Two to one. Oh sorry, sorry, where's Regine?


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[Assistant] Regin's there, I reckon we can get rid of him. I get Regin. Here, I'll throw you guys a bone because you guys don't like these ones as much, but I would get, I would concede Dibella off the list before, well, I wouldn't before Xarxes, like I've got to quite hard my list, but I understand it might not be everyone's.


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[Assistant] Begone, Debella. Very chaste boys. But uhm, but yeaah, I think of the Tulek, kind of like love related gods, Mara is really good. And I'm actually kinda getting reminded of how involved Mara is, like in the Arcay story, she's involved in Alicia's story, she's


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[Assistant] And also, she's a common god in like, pretty much every pantheon, I think. Just to stress again though, that arc haste.


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[Assistant] I don't, why, why is that my cook?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I would like, like to me, so Rijin is on it or gone? What was it again? Gone. Gone. I'd put Xarxes at the bottom honestly, I don't think he's that interesting, I wouldn't have Xarxes on the list at all, but we gotta come from him.


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[Assistant] That changed out. No, but I think, but the thing with Mara too, like, I think the reason for you guys too, like, it's kind of more...


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[Assistant] But then Lauren's cool, she's involved, she's involved in Alicia, uhm, in coming to Alicia and so on, involved in the RK story and so on. She's involved in, uhm,


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[Assistant] Someone else is the only student number one. Okay, so here's what I had as top three originally. I had Kain, then Lorcan, then Talos.


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[Assistant] Maybe it might be easier to work backwards, like to work from 1 to 10.


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[Assistant] What we've already said, like it kind of feels like, I feel like the competition for one is kind of between Kain or Lhokan, right?


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[Assistant] It's one of the best Ascension stories. Yes. Even outside of Tiber Septim's things, what went into the creation of Tylos and the fact that he wasn't able to, the fact that he changed the landscape retrospectively, stuff like that, he's just so, like the whole idea that


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[Assistant] In the timeline of like Arena, Daggerfall, he's not a god yet, but then he kind of becomes a god in, uhm,


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[Assistant] Okay, this is Scott here from the future. We got into a long and confusing discussion about Talos, but I think it's much better if I just summarise it here.


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[Assistant] Basically, Talos is an over-soul that features three individuals, Tiber Septim, Wulfarth, and Zuran Arctus. In the Arena Daggerfall timeline, Talos was not yet a god as such because the soul of Zuran Arctus, the Underking, was still bound


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[Assistant] Now, Talos was always a god. And with his new godhood, he changed Cyrodiil from a jungle to forests and grasslands, even retroactively. So Cyrodiil technically never was jungle. Or at least, that's the top theory. This is also related to the Warp in the West, which results in the many feuding kingdoms of Hyroc,


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[Assistant] Regardless, the whole thing's really confusing and debatable at points, and it's one of the things that makes Talos as an entity so interesting, including things like the idea that he could be a kind of Lorkhan reborn, a champion god of men.


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[Assistant] Stuff like that, which plays into the idea why the Thalmor want to erase Talos from existence so badly by outlawing his worship.


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[Assistant] If you're really interested, you should check out our videos on the topic and also all in all.


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[Assistant] The guy who made the Pelinal Opera has recently made a really cool Evangelion Elder Scrolls mashup animation that features Tiber Septim and the Numidium with some of the more meta crazy themes. Check that out, but yea, back to the podcast. Because this is the other thing, sorry, and what I was trying to explain.


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[Assistant] Corley was the, uhm, the idea that in a conventional idea amongst, if you went and asked Talos worshippers or if you, the conventional orthodox idea is that Talos,


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[Assistant] Whereas the kind of reality is it involves a lot of dragon breaking, Numidian, Mantella kind of related stuff. And also that Talos is actually three souls combined into like an over soul of Zuran Arctus, Izmir Wulfarth, who is like the Ash King.


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[Assistant] But uhm, but yeaah, but only Tiber Septum got credit for it. Cause there's the whole idea that Tiber Septum also like, you know, didn't know any of the shouts and stuff. It was just Izmi working the whole time. And, and then, you know, um,


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[Assistant] I like him and all his, all of his interpretations, like him even in the Redguard stuff being Tall Papa. And I think that's another reason like I also really like Sep.


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[Assistant] In that, him being, I'm pretty sure he's the, he's the leftover. He was made by, in that story, he was actually made by Tallpapa, aka Akatosh. Uhm, so, and it made Sep from the remnants of old world skins, I think it was, from the shedded skins of, of, uhm, Sadokal. So, it's just that, like, I've,


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[Assistant] When you put all the cultural interpretations together, I think it really makes up, I guess, a higher. Yeah, I agree. To be honest, I might even consider over Talos, potentially.


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[Assistant] We've sort of kind of got the top four-ish kind of thing, so where do we have, uhm, Stender in here?


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[Assistant] If I was working from the bottom, I think Xarxes is the bottom. Are you gonna cop it, Drew?


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[Assistant] I think outside of the poetic description of Xarxes and his wife and outside of the poetic description of, um, Ebon arm and like what he looks like in the, in the roses and the graveyard and stuff like that. And he, and you know, his story with Sai as well. But what about outside the poetic description of Mara being a concubine?


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[Assistant] She's, yeaah, but she's involved with, she's involved with uhm, coming to Alicia and bringing her like all of the words and stuff and the, I forgot which one's the fork, it's not Songs of Perlinal, it's not the other one, Attabala, it's uhm.


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[Assistant] It's the one with all of the quotes from, um, about.


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[Assistant] But regardless, like, so there's, there is that, and then, uhm,


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[Assistant] I also like the idea that she's sort of the universal goddess, but like I said, uh, it's the, uh, it's the elven, um, Nordic dichotomy and also involved in like, you know, archaes uprising. I can completely concede not high, but I would definitely put over Ebon arm who was also basically a retconned God with a poetic description.


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[Assistant] And then in the Nidic mythology, there's even things with her having like four breasts or something like that to feed. Like she's kind of a little bit more alien looking because of all the extra limbs and stuff. But in the Nidic mythology, um, there's.


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[Assistant] They have some sort of like primal-ish versions of deities. They might be connected to others, but one's called the Fat Mother, which is essentially this, this needy woman or something that was like, she's, I'm pretty sure she was feeding


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[Assistant] They were like crossing a desert or something, I can't remember, some hostile terrain, uhm, and there was feeding them, uhm, breast milk basically, like from a tits, and they all just called her fat, fat and fat and stuff like this, and then she became, but, but basically the gods,


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[Assistant] She pray- I think she prayed to the gods or something for help or something like that, but the gods made her into a god, like a big fat bee thing, but only in the- but it was only under the condition that the tribesmen aren't allowed to disrespect her anymore.


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[Assistant] Because a bee will sting you if, uhm, if you'd like kind of disrespect nature, that's kind of the idea that you're like,


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[Assistant] Cause she's basically this big god of bounty and nourishment and stuff like that. And kind of like a loving mother figure kind of thing. Well like literally called the fat mother. So people could argue too that's another sort of connection to Mara. And so on. But uhm.


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[Assistant] But yeah, I just like, I just think that like it's cool like the idea that she's, cause you know, love is such a super universal force. It's gonna be everywhere in some capacity and, and you know, I think it's just, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Make pi- make peace with Mara above Stendhal.


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[Assistant] Look, that's me thing and I understand, that's an impossible sell for you guys, but I'm happy-


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[Assistant] Um, I, I do have Mara in my list, I did have Mara just above Stenda, but, you know, it's just for what, subjectively, I've


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[Assistant] Okay, I can, look, I honestly, I could put-


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[Assistant] Mara at, uh, A. I feel like that's kinda the best I'm gonna do with you unless, because, because Michael definitely wouldn't put above Standar, you don't really care, but like I feel like the most, the easiest cell for the group is to put her at A.


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[Assistant] Yeah? Uh, sure. Alright. Okay. So then we're working with Tryndamere. Cause I, in, in a way, like, it's funny. It's really funny cause now I'm defending these.


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[Assistant] Oh, hold on. Okay, we could talk about Ifri more, but I'd put Ifri below, actually, Mara.


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[Assistant] Because to me, besides- Me too, me too. Besides Ifri just being, like, uhm...


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[Assistant] Besides the green-packed kind of stuff, I really do like the songs part and the poetic sort of idea and the priest with the spinners.


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[Assistant] But, I don't know, it's just not, it's not quite enough.


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[Assistant] I don't like dislike him, I just, I just don't think he's that.


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[Assistant] I would probably put Trunamack at 8 if I think about it.


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[Assistant] I actually still prefer, I would still prefer Trinimac over Ebonarm because Ebonarm's actually not that- Yeah. It's just a poetic description. If you actually just like, cause we have no description of Trinimac for example, really.


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[Assistant] Take that away, and then if you put Ebenam on the same playing field, besides like, creating Sai, and like, you know, I guess that's a cool story, but besides that, it's just a god of war.


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[Assistant] For example, Akatosh as a thing is, is an Aurel or whatever, through the different interpretations and so on, there's, it's kind of what they do as well. It's not so much just what they look like. It's not, oh I'm just a dragon so I'm cool, or I'm just an elf dude, or, or, you know, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Like it's, but obviously descriptions factor in, but like, I'm not like, I'm just trying to like strip it away a little bit more that Ebonarm really is just, in terms of what they actually do in story, it was in Daggerfall times it was worshipped in the fighters guilds and stuff, and it was a favoured god in Hammerfell, god of war, and then made Sai.


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[Assistant] The reason Trinimac would be above, I would say, is definitely because he's like this super strong elven warrior god that managed to kill Lorcan and then


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[Assistant] He had to be, like the whole story of his betrayal and so on, he's so powerful that...


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[Assistant] He had to be betrayed and gets corrupted. He's not, we're obviously not counting everything beyond the corruption, but just even that whole story and significance of it. And plus he is also, so also worshipped by orcs in contemporary times, which is kind of cool with some orcs, which is cool because it's sort of like this.


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[Assistant] Idea where they're not accepting this idea of Malekath and instead still


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%, 100%. So if- So Xarxes is 10. So 10 Xarxes, 9 Ebonarm, 8 Trinima.


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[Assistant] I don't think I, I, I don't know, Michael, you might have to be, I'd put Mara above Ifri, because. Hmm, I'm in a position of power. Yeah, you're in a position of power. I'm not going to be so, I'm not going to be butthurt either way. I don't think really. It's kind of semantic, but like I, um, it's just with Ifri, um, it's, it's kind of a very specific


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[Assistant] And I guess it's kind of what you prefer, like besides the, like we said, the poetic stuff with the storytelling and so on and the waves and forests and stuff like you were talking about, uhm,


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[Assistant] And the green pact and also, you know, and also how it was related to how it was interpreted in, um, the Khajiit pantheon is cool, but


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[Assistant] See, I also- that's one thing I guess to a fault of-


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[Assistant] Ifri for me or Ifri or whatever, the fault for that is outside of the Valenwood elsewhere area. Boring as hell to me. I don't, I don't, doesn't, Jefa in the, in the Breton pantheon and stuff like that does not resonate with me at all because I'm like, to me, it's a very specific Valenwood locational god, if that makes sense.


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[Assistant] Whereas Paris and like Mara is a very, it's a much more of a universal force god. So, so the love's everywhere and the multiple interpretations. Whereas like, I like the interpretation in Nordic pantheons, I like the interpretation in Elven or Khajiit pantheons or whatnot. Like, but.


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[Assistant] But if, if free to me is really, I like the Khajiit perspective on it because it's geographical.


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[Assistant] Even if I was just to throw in like, that Ifri's responsible for wood elves.


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[Assistant] Do you know what I- The one thing I would throw there, if you're not counting Shezarenes and stuff like that, or all that kind of stuff, like the avatars as much, Lorcan's dead, and his service is being dead, so there's a heart of Lorcan and so on, and you know, that's- it's important that that's how the tribunal arose with-


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[Assistant] And that's how, uhm, the Nemedium and stuff was all made. Uhm, I like him as...


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[Assistant] You know, Shor being the sort of like tough warlord god, but if you actually did strip away in the same way that Oriell is a bit basic in that he's just an elven king god, so is Shor in a lot of ways. I do like Sovngarde and the underworld things. I also really do like Shor being represented as a fox, being the trickster god. I think that pushes him up because


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[Assistant] I like how they've kind of canonized somewhat the idea in the Nordic pantheon that he did trick and betray just cause it's any sort of nature and so on. But the other thing I do like, um, Shizar I think is a pretty plain to be honest version of it.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, the reason I'm saying uhm, I would put uhm,


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[Assistant] I just need to get it up as well, just to make sure I cover everything I want to. Cause there is a lot of cool stuff in Kinerath and Kind. The biggest thing with, look, okay, let's just throw out the nature thing real quick. Nature's cool. Okay, but that's, Kinerath's the most boring version, right?


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[Assistant] Kine in particular is just awesome. I love the idea that she, there's the idea that she, uhm,


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[Assistant] She created men on the throat of the world. Uhm, and it's called the mother of men. That's that mother.


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[Assistant] I like that she's the more aggressive sort of storm, wind and rain rather than the sort of just, oh, like, you know, benevolent forest kind of thing. I also like it's just an interesting take that she's basically, because Shor is canonically dead to them.


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[Assistant] Hein is the head of the Nordic pantheon and she's this sort of warrior, warrior queen goddess kind of thing.


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[Assistant] And the other thing is the thum, the hold on the thum too. She's responsible for the thum. And I know Skyrim added it and made it so it's like Parthenax did it at the behest of Kain or whatnot. But originally she's the whole breath of Kain stuff. It's her.


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[Assistant] It's her giving the thorn, which is, I think is the coolest ability out of pretty much all the Elder Scrolls to the Nords.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's just the two different things saying that Parthenax did, or VersusKind did.


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[Assistant] She performs a similar kind of thing, like for example, for, um, Wolfarth, when he gets blasted into ashes, it said that Cain lifted the ashes into the heavens below, uh, above and so on, and I think it was even, he got blasted into oblivion, but she pulled him from oblivion or whatnot.


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[Assistant] But then Oriole should be number one. Then Oriole should be number one because the universe wouldn't begin to be able to start without the concept of time, because time stabilised the universe, which then allowed the concept of time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the one, the one thing that was cool too, that is a blood moon thing, one of the default like enemies, they're called the fries hags. And they're basically just these like nature witches that are addicted to worshipping kind and so on and they like really take it seriously and stuff like that. There's just little bits of like, kind of,


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[Assistant] It's sort of like, you know, how Morrowind's interpretation of the gods of other cultures are often better and so on. But the other thing, uhm, I dunno.


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[Assistant] I love that. It's so cool. Yeah. I mean, that is really cool. I mean, look, I like Lorca. Yeah. It's any poetic words will always get me, but like, um, yeah.


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[Assistant] It's kind of less, it's just, to me at least, I guess, I guess it's also what you value a bit like.


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[Assistant] Kain, in a way, I would say, is more in an active role, versus a passive role. Because Loh Khan died, and then the tribunal, right? Tribunal, like, Loh Khan didn't, like, bless the tribunal on stuff with their power or anything like that. His...


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[Assistant] They just took it from the heart that was there and froze in the ground.


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[Assistant] He's passive because he's dead, he was just a cool warrior god beforehand. Whereas Kain, you know, gave the Nord's Thumb. Supposedly, you know, it depends, just take them at face value. Gave him the Thumb, breathed life into the, into the world, sent down Morrow House to help Pelen a white strake and the human rebellion. Like she's a central to human, um, uh,


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[Assistant] The final hammer in the nail. I just wanna find, uhm, I just wanna find the exact description of Tybe because there's something really nice that I like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think we should still agree upon one to say, but then also just see if like, or who should have won and then like comment both. Well, yeah, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] It's just, I guess the ultimate it comes down to is just the passive role. Like if you actually analyze, like, kind of,


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[Assistant] Like I know the big trick thing and he did it and there's the cool like Nordic Fox connection stuff like that, the symbolism and so on. But like ultimately what he is is a god that either tricked or did create people or so on. Like you know what I mean, it varies depending on what perspective. But uhm.


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[Assistant] But then his purpose to the sort of story is being dead. And then people abused his corpse and used his power, but he didn't like...


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[Assistant] He just doesn't have the same active role. There are parts, actually, look, I'll throw in extra stuff. There is some cool stuff in there with, uhm, Him and Wolfarth and so on, like there's this version of Battle Red Mountain in the...


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[Assistant] In the five songs of Wolfarth where he's, he goes to Red Mountain. It's a line, something like, uhm, don't you know what this battle really is? It's basically this idea that they're going to bring in Khanate, Khanate Shor, cause Dagotha comes to the nords and he's like,


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[Assistant] Can't, like, I'll show you where the heart of your dead god is essentially, and there's a chance at reviving him and so on. And I guess there's some sort of Ghost of Shor stuff like that. But uhm, and look, let, mate, we can agree that, uh, Kain and, and Shor are the power couple gods of, uh, of the Elder Scrolls for sure.


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[Assistant] I'll put it at the top, but to me it's not a complete landslide.


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[Assistant] I'm quite curious though, where did you have, uhm,


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[Assistant] Kind. And kinawreath. Cause you didn't have hers too or anything, did you? I had her at nine. That's crazy. So that's why I like, that's like, cause what would you have, Michael?


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[Assistant] I kinda didn't know either, I feel like this is just, uhm, it's just counting.


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[Assistant] I feel like I'll get the horny police set on me for wanting, just because I wanted some, uh, representation for women up at the top there, you know? Right? Let it be known that I was fighting for women's rights. Scott has ascended. He is the god of simps.


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[Assistant] Alright, the final list. Reach heaven through simping.


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[Assistant] Compared to the Aedra, like where there's, I'm sorry, compared to the Daedra where there's like heaps of strong feelings because they're really, they've all got a big personality. The personalities are way more vague and they're not really as concrete as they are, like, for the Daedra. So.


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[Assistant] Like I feel, I don't, I'm not as, as uhm, 100% like, yeah, it has to be for like a lot of them. A lot of them I'm kind of indifferent. Like it's really kind of like only the top five-ish that kind of cared about.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you know, like I said, if we had any of the tribunal and stuff in there, it would just blow them out of the water, hands down.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, uh, yeaah. Alright, well there's your disappointing answer. For some of you, but some of you will love it, because you loved Lorcan at the top. But basically, top 2, I feel like,


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[Assistant] Not everyone will agree on the kind kinarath stuff as a number two. Yea, they'd say way lower. But basically, more carnival one. Although I was looking at some of the comments, some people were, some of them were surprising like, um, Julianos and, some of them were like Zenithar and I'm like, what? Like, I mean, you must really like commerce or something, like really just like heavy on that angle or something, but like, yea.


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[Assistant] And my own question is, are the older ones ready to leave? Because the political pattern right now is not, the structure is not even helping the youth, it's not encouraging. Because right now, we are here and we are talking about all the youth


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[Assistant] Most people, whenever they hear the youth, they believe, oh, these people are on serials, they are not ready. Why is it the older one that are still there till now are the ones we are looking up to and we are not encouraging the youth? Because these people, they've been there for a long time. And nothing has changed. We keep moving progressively, retrogressively. Like we keep going boom boom, like nothing is changing.


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[Assistant] Okay, so do you think now that the older ones, they are ready to leave? Because they just want to stay there and keep being the puppet master, puppet master. And the person that is coming as, that is representing that, oh, this is the...


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[Assistant] Did you join L.P. because of, you've spoken about L.P. Taube, did you join because of P. Taube or because of L.P. has been that political party that, that is


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[Assistant] I want to start from there. All those, like, legal silent women.


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[Assistant] I have friends that their parents are in like, they are the top executives in their company and they still have time for them, everything, they are well protected.


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[Assistant] Uh, as far as the Shivering Isles incarnations go, or the examples go, they're basically


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[Assistant] The guards, they've been seen at other points in the timeline and different examples, but just to kind of give you the mainstream view of them.


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[Assistant] They're basically the guards of either side of Shao'Gorath's realm. So you've got the, uh, Golden Saints of Mania, the Dark Seducers of Dementia, and they basically function to put lawbreakers in their place and keep the cities safe and so on.


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[Assistant] Um, they're involved in different events within the realm and, and different kind of, I guess, rituals for lack of better words, such as, um, helping you in Oblivion, uh, get the Flame of Agnon to relight the Great Torch. And they both kind of compete for the Mad God's favor. Um.


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[Assistant] They wanna be the, the, the favourite kid, basically, of Shagorath.


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[Assistant] However, they are also found outside of the Isles. You can find them as, uh, just a generic enemy in Morrowind. Uh, you can summon them in Morrowind.


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[Assistant] Uh, in Elder Scrolls Online, we saw both of them doing various things. And in, uh, Battlespire, the Mazken, or the Dark Seducers were there as well. Looking slightly different, but they were there.


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[Assistant] And, uh, they have distinct personalities and both of them also have a system by which the females are superior and the males are kind of looked down at as weak.


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[Assistant] Yeah, all of them, the Golden Saints, the Dark Seducers, they're always kind of scantily clad. Less so in Elder Scrolls Online. I'm not the biggest fan, I will say, of the armors in the Elder Scrolls Online. They're not, they're not terrible. Like they're cool armors kind of in their own riot. No, they are. Like if you saw it on their own, if you had nothing to compare it to, it's not a


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[Assistant] It's not bad. I mean, to be honest, my take on- It didn't do the Shivering Isles justice, and I don't like the Dark Seducer's helmet particularly, in Elder Scrolls Online. It's a bit like, big. Almost like a, like, Falmer looking kind of.


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[Assistant] It can be a little bit warcraft, like across the board, a little bit too warcraft for my taste.


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[Assistant] And they also have cat eyes, aesthetically, which don't seem, another thing doesn't seem to be present in Elder Scrolls Online, at least from pictures that I can see, they look more normal.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for sure. And the other thing that's interesting about them is that they, it doesn't say explicitly that they're manic, but with them chosen as kind of the gods and kind of rulers in a way of mania, besides Shayah Gorath, like they have higher hierarchy than everyone else. Yeah, and the duke really.


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[Assistant] They like the bright colors, at least that's what Sheregorath says. Yeaah. He says when, I think when you get the ability to summon them, he's like, says they like mania, they love the bright colors. Something like that, which I find interesting.


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[Assistant] Cause about the dark seducers, he says, uh, they like the pain of dementia. Like they're, they're a bit, uh, masochistic.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but they're polite, they're polite, and they don't come across as like seductive per se, they just come across as polite. And if you were to look at them in contrast, and this is a big assumption, right, but you could say perhaps the Golden Saints are more domineering, like if you wanted like the other side, or like inflict


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[Assistant] Especially when you look at that, I think it's Legends art that you put in the chat. Yeaah, yeaah. It almost looks like holding like a, like a paddle almost. But, but, but actually, like the way, the way, it's a mace, right? Yeaah. The way that mace is held.


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[Assistant] The other thing is it kind of, uh, at least to me, contradicts the already established lore as well. Like for example, when you look at something like the amber found in the Shivering Isles, right?


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[Assistant] It didn't say, you cannot get this anywhere else in the Elder Scrolls universe, but it was, at least to me, pretty implied that this is a special type of amber.


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[Assistant] Or broken, and this amber, this kind of sap inside can leak out.


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[Assistant] Like, the idea is that you can't just walk up to one of these trees with a pickaxe or a sword and put a hole in it and start taking out the amber.


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[Assistant] And to me, at least, yeah, it was kind of implied that that's why you can make amber armor and weapons in the Shivering Isles with these, by the way, master secrets from this master Shivering Isles smith.


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[Assistant] Who is given the knowledge of how to do this by like their master and so on. So then the fact that you can just get Amber in uhm,


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[Assistant] Skyrim Creation Club and make Amber Armor. It's a bit like, uuuh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's kind of like, you get a whole bunch of skins on the mount, like you get like Storm Atronach horse, like uhm, Wild Hunt, Wild Hunt Guar, all this stuff.


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[Assistant] So you gotta separate the game elements. Exactly. And in the most basic way, you could almost just say like game mechanics. You don't look at the land of Skyrim and go, everyone has a stamina bar and once they run out.


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[Assistant] Could I just interject here on that topic? May as well before we go over it. I remember Drew made a video about the Golden Saints and you were talking about how perhaps, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, because Daedra's kind of, um, matter, I guess, go, we'll just say soul for lack of better words for now, kind of goes back to be born again, that the males could actually just be ones that didn't prove themselves, or ones that were less valiant. So the idea is that like,


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[Assistant] It's just speculation, perhaps you could be put into the male inferior form, uh, depending on the actions you had in that last cycle.


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[Assistant] So, uh, so basically they have their wellspring, uh, in the Shivering Isles of Pinnacle.


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[Assistant] And the Dark Seducers can say Shaya Gorath is our lord, ruler of the Shivering Isles.


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[Assistant] It is by his whim that the Maz can walk and we serve our master to the death. So whether he actually creates them or they just use the workings of pinnacle rock to enter the realm from another realm, using this as one of many wellsprings perhaps that they have in other places, we don't know, but at least that sentence implies


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[Assistant] I find it, I find it really cool as well how he calls, uh, the Mazkan great, a great people. Like there's like a lot of respect there for this race, like just like a Tamrielic race might have for another one.


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[Assistant] Yeah. There's some quotes as well, actually, that both the commanders of either the Golden Saints or the Dark Seducers will say,


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[Assistant] And then you can also hear the dialogue from other saints and seducers. So like you're saying, it's not necessarily like a hundred percent that he like created them and that's like their origin story. It kind of sounds like.


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[Assistant] You know, he guides them back to his realm, provides them with these places of restoration and a place for them to come back into form.


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[Assistant] And it can get really confusing because if you take the Shivering Isles for example, the hungers really look like they belong there. I mean if you go and explore that place besides the fact that there's plenty of them, the zealots can summon them.


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[Assistant] Um, what's the other class in the game? There's the zealots and then the heretics. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the zealots. One of them summons them.


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[Assistant] And then, most of all, they're built into the architecture. So you will find statues of hungers, you know, with their mouths and heads pointing out off the edge of Shivering Isle's ruins. You will find traps set up in these, you know, kind of ancient looking halls that shoot a magical damaging blast from the mouth.


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[Assistant] Anyway, back to, uh, back to the Golden Saints. I did want to add in there, there is this little story which kind of puts them almost in a caring light, really. Uh, there's a character called Malka Valos from the Elder Scrolls Online.


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[Assistant] And Malkor was born as an only child, and uh, Malkor's mother was a wizard. Right?


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[Assistant] And Maros, was the name of the mother, summoned a Golden Saint. Oh, sorry, it's father? It says he is. Anyway, Maros summoned a Golden Saint to protect and care for his son. Malco was taken to the Shivering Isles and raised among the Golden Saints.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so that's pretty cool. After Maros was killed in a mage's duel, and then he learnt the principles of honour and duty, which seem to be at least a big part of being a golden saint, as egotistical as they are.


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[Assistant] So anyway, speaking of them as individuals, you've got all the examples of the Mazken and them serving different people throughout history. So in Battlespire, they were helping Mehrunes Dagon after betraying Nocturnal.


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[Assistant] Which means they were helping Nocturnal and in her service and then also in, then in the service of Dagon.


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[Assistant] And, uh, back then they definitely had a more, um, I guess not that dark purple skin tone, you know, a more like regular one and looked more just like regular, you know, they just looked more regular, like humanoid. They didn't look like dark health based or anything like that.


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[Assistant] And they had the special outfits.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's it. And then Mehrunes Dagon actually took one as his lover.


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[Assistant] And they were also in the Elder Scrolls Online helping Molag Baal.


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[Assistant] Where there was Mazkan sisters who would honeypot their guests by giving them a luxurious experience and feeding them and who knows what else. And, uh, basically pampering them and fattening them up to lower their guard so that they can be consumed.


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[Assistant] That is interesting though about the Golden Saints, right? Like, Brelaq's their most sacred location, it's in the Shivering Isles, it has their wellspring there. But...


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[Assistant] One of them does say that if Brelak were to fall, like this is a quote, it would be the end for my kind. So that almost, that kind of puts a spanner in the works because it sounds like if the order win, the Golden Saints are just gone.


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[Assistant] Or perhaps, perhaps most of them are in the Shivering Isles.


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[Assistant] Do you think that, but with the Wellspring corrupted by the order or destroyed, that perhaps they would be trapped perhaps in that process?


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[Assistant] In the process, they could become trapped and unable to return in the same numbers because


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[Assistant] You could imagine, and it could just be, and I like the idea that it could just be a cultural thing, as in it's the end of our kind here at, you know, the Shivering Isles with our traditions and our rituals and our, and our knowledge of all these, um, different people, you know, with the Flame of Agnon and all of that. There's obviously some kind of a culture there that's unique to the Isles and those specific Golden Saints. But I do wonder what would happen to their souls if, it's just a hard way to put it, you know?


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[Assistant] Right. So it's kind of like deleting someone's 3d blueprint that they downloaded off and then turning their internet off. And then basically after they can use this, like use their 3d printer still that, uh, they're not allowed to make what they're making before.


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[Assistant] And the wellspring is kind of like the, like the, you know, sinking down and the hists up in the swamp.


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[Assistant] I can tell you one little detail. You can find a golden tooth of a golden saint in the Elder Scrolls Online. And it just interestingly mentions that it depicts an elderly man with three faces carved into the gleaming tooth, you know, kind of like Shayagorath and like the strange door.


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[Assistant] Raise the crescents to the sky. Yeah. You know?


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[Assistant] Oh, for sure, because they both absolutely want the, the affections, I guess, is a weird way to put it, but of Shere Gorath, you know? Like when you become, because you're immortal, so even if you've saved Cyrodiil, they're not going to treat you with much respect.


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[Assistant] But, when you become Sheogorath, they do. Yeaah. And, and you can get away with like crimes type thing and like, it gets, it gets interesting. There's some interesting post-game mechanics in the Shivering Isles that a lot of people aren't aware of.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but yeah, I think that wraps it all up unless you two have anything to say. We knew this would be a slightly shorter podcast, but it's been a pretty interesting one.


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[Assistant] Take the Deidre out of the Elder Scrolls universe and it gets a lot more boring, I'll say that. Really boring. They're like really intertwined with just about everything that's super awesome.


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[Assistant] It's like super, super crucial and that's why people love the Daedra so much. You know, if you make a video about Daedra, it will get a lot more attention pretty much than most other video types out there.


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[Assistant] As we do. As we do, as we love to do. And one final note, I guess, unless you two have anything else to say is, and it's just a general knowledge note, but they're both of the Golden Saints and the Dark Seducers, they're very hierarchical.


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[Assistant] And they have ranks, all of them with different names for the different ranks. I won't read them because they're all gibberish essentially, but you know, go check it out.


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[Assistant] And Ormazzle, which you just look at that and you see like, um, the Pokemon or whatever it's called. Azumarill, that one. That's what I see when I, when I read it. And then the Mazken, what are their ranks?


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[Assistant] Uhm, okay, strict hierarchy. Kiss Kengo, kiss Gela, kiss Kedrig.


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[Assistant] And uh, yeah, let us know in the comments what you want to see next. Follow us on Twitter and we look forward to nerding out with you again very soon.


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[Assistant] He does, he does. He, he goes out with his men and he's, uhm, he, they come across a, I guess a spirit, a spirit that they see to be Saint Alicia.


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[Assistant] And, uh, Saint Alicia basically does a runner into the wilderness and they go searching to chase her. And finally he comes across her and, um, you know, it's, it's, it could be very metaphorical, but it says she kind of gets naked and, um,


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[Assistant] He ends up copulating with a, a hillock. So he, um.


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[Assistant] I guess thrusts himself into the earth, carves himself a little dirt hole and carves himself a dirt hole on this little, just mining, just this mound of mud and smashes it and, um, dies in the process. It was such a thrill he dies and, um,


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[Assistant] Anyway, some of his men come and see this and are driven mad and others just kind of leave in shame. And, uh, eventually this hill begins to grow. And it starts as a small hill.


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[Assistant] It grows into a slightly biggy hill and a biggy hill and people come to the hill and congregate around it. People from the area.


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[Assistant] And eventually it, it grows quite large and a shepardus comes and, and, and travels to the top of it and finds a baby there with like a, the amulet of kings basically fused like in his forehead, like a little gemstone in the floor. It's a real Harry Potter story.


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[Assistant] And then, she takes the child to the imperial city, to the ruby throne, puts the baby upon the throne, and then the baby speaks in an adult voice, and says, I am Cyrodiil cum. Which is quite literal in a way.


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[Assistant] I honestly, I just think the story is so cool. I take it as canon. I take it as that's what actually...


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[Assistant] Full on happened. I love the description of the story as well when he sees his spirit.


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[Assistant] And that really would legitimize his kind of rule as well. You know, anyone doubting his leadership, it's like, oh, now the invading forces who just absolutely slaughtered their way through Tamriel are kneeling before this man's


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[Assistant] You know, like any doubt that you had is now gone. And if you disagree, you've got the Akaviri to deal with, the Saisi because they're under his command and that helped, would help him, you know, take over even more of Tamriel.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and he kinda set the trend as well in a way of all the empires to come conquering.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's almost like he brought them, he brought them on over. Perhaps that's what Alicia wanted. I don't know, it's weird, but if they exist outside of space and time and all these other things, who knows what kind of reasons they have for their actions. It's a theme.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, so I've got the timeline here, so basically, the first Akaviri invasion with Pale Pass and all that was happening around 2703 of the first era. In 2704, he divides the reach between Hyrule


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[Assistant] It was very difficult. It was so hard to pacify them, apparently.


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[Assistant] Anyway, and then in the year two thousand seven hundred and fourteen, that's when Valenwood is conquered by the Reman's second empire.


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[Assistant] And then he dies, Reamon I dies in the year 2762. So 48 years after Valenwood's conquered is when he dies. And then Reamon II is born in- No, no, no. So Kastav. Sorry, Kastav. Kastav is, is crowned.


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[Assistant] And he's not anything particularly special. He's a bit of a loose cannon, honestly. Do you wanna? So, so Kastav.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he's the one who was said to be really, uh, I guess hard-headed and stubborn, and he really didn't want to listen to, like, the Patentate, and he basically ordered the Dragon Guard of Skyhaven Temple to seize Nordic hostages, uhm,


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[Assistant] And that was involved with uhm, something about conscription quotas leading to the Winterhold rebellion.


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[Assistant] I remember Drew, you made a video about that, would you remember?


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[Assistant] About the, uhm, conscription quotas and the Nordic hostages. I've put you on the spot. Oh yeaah, that's, that's very specific. I can't, I can't.


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[Assistant] Here we go, I've got the exact, the exact quote. So, again, it sounds like he's quite, um, persistent.


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[Assistant] To seize hostages from Markarth and Roldan to ensure that the Yarls meet their conscription quotas. So there you go. The Yarls have conscription quotas and Kastav basically gets a bunch of hostages and says, fulfill your quotas or I won't let them go.


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[Assistant] So this will make relations with the local populace more difficult, although the hostages are in fact housed and trained with the other acolytes.


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[Assistant] in the year two eight oh five or two eight oh six, um, succeeded by Riemann the second. He lived for several years in exile, dying in the Merckmire region of Black Marsh in the year two eight 12.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so, I have a feeling that Zelda Scrolls Online. Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you do...


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[Assistant] With the whole area passing under imperial control in 2837. But as we know, no one has really ever properly taken Black Marsh. They kinda take fringe areas or northwest areas and say, yeah, it's ours.


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[Assistant] And so perhaps work with other Argonians in those areas, but they don't really get to the heart of the swamp.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for sure. But anyway, so here goes on to start the four score war, which is a massive war trying to conquer Morrowind. And I believe this goes for 80 years.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, Juliak's, Juliak is there in one of the main battles.


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[Assistant] I'm in second still. Yeah, yeah, okay. Ream in second.


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[Assistant] Uhm, though does have a son. Yeah. Juliet.


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[Assistant] No he doesn't. Sorry, Brazzla's Door. Brazzla's Door, and then Brazzla's Door has Juliak.


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[Assistant] And he basically let Sidriashak run the joint. And this was actually funnily enough.


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[Assistant] So it was kind of a, you have to wonder if it was like out of laziness. Like I just like to fight at the front of our forces and to chill out in my country estate near Skingrad.


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[Assistant] Or if you actually did have some self-awareness and say, you know what? You're actually better at running things than me. It would be best for everyone if I just let you run things, but that could be giving Brass- Brassel's door a bit too much credit. I'm not sure.


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[Assistant] You go for it, Nick. I was, I was going to say I wanted to tell my official, official thing I wanted to say before. So.


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[Assistant] You've got the battle of Bodrum where forces from Vivec ambush Cyrodiilic army and almost completely destroy it. But then.


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[Assistant] In the year 2920, same year actually, there's the battle of Old Merak, where a heavily armored army, led by Crown Prince Juliet, took the Dunmer by surprise, due to faulty intelligence on their part. Commanding the mystics in his army to cast water breathing spells, his army passed through Lake Coronati.


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[Assistant] So yeah, that's pretty bad ass. Yeah. That's just, that's just super cool.


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[Assistant] Yeah, which is kind of what ends up happening with his assassination, uh, at the hands of the Morag Tongue.


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[Assistant] He basically, basically got them in such a position where he was forcing them to negotiate a treaty. Like he'd almost won in a way, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so the Riemann empire, or the second empire basically, like you said, is split into two parts. There's the part with everything we just talked about, and there's the part with the Akaviri potentate and Syesse rulers and leaders and stuff like that. Which...


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[Assistant] And he also absolutely purged out all of the armies that were still loyal to Reman.


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[Assistant] You know, there were, there were still different kingdoms and, and armies that, you know, obviously, like you said, don't want to be ruled by a Siasi snake man. And, and they're still kind of loyal to the, the Riemann empire and the Riemann way of things. And so, um, basically what's his name? Vesidue Shey.


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[Assistant] He basically goes on what's called the Riemann purges. Killing them all.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and getting rid of any kind of, uhm, resistance to their way of doing things.


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[Assistant] I was just going to say it also kind of has a little bit more of like a dictatorship vibe in the sense that once he takes control, he still retains the title of potentate. So it's not him and the potentate advisor.


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[Assistant] It's like, I am basically serving as the emperor. I'm patented as well though. It's kind of like I'm president and prime minister. You know what I mean? I'm advisor to myself. No one gives


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[Assistant] They had good runs without being assassinated.


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[Assistant] I also forgot to mention, uhm, the part where Reamon the second has Alduin's wall constructed. It's just a cool little, cool little piece.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Alduin's War, man. So cool. When I first saw the trailer for Skyrim, I'll never forget it. It's pretty-


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[Assistant] Yeah. So something I will say, it's interesting that Versidue Shay was actually murdered when he was in elsewhere. He was in a palace in Sandsharl. Cause he liked the tropical heat and stuff. Cause he's a snake. He's a snake. That's exactly it. He's a snake physically and also quite metaphorically in the story.


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[Assistant] I'll also say as well, while they are both Saeisi, um, Saverian Shorak is quite different to Vasiju Shey, especially in the sense that he was kind of seen to be prone to mishandling crises, but he also got rid of the act that banned the formation of local armies.


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[Assistant] So, Vesidius Shae is like, no. And Savory and Chorak just chucks it back in. Like, no, you can do that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, also got Orsinium in the Empire.


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[Assistant] Pretty much, but yeah. That's like the most, the least ambitious quote I've ever heard.


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[Assistant] Look, I'll just say this, the flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's just so cool for the setup for Elder Scrolls 6, I think. If they could work with that, like what happens to the Empire? Does it kind of continue to crumble? Does it have a big overhaul and come back? Empire Special Edition.


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[Assistant] Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you this, if the second empire is anything to learn from, we know that the assassinations of emperors can happen in a row. So...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think I like the Riemann kind of in the second empire more anyway, but.


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[Assistant] It's definitely mythology is such a massive hook for me. The whole story, uhm, of his birth.


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[Assistant] As funny as it can be to meme is also just really, really cool. And the fact that there's this baby with the amulet of kings on his forehead is just, I love it. And speaking like an adult on


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[Assistant] Yeah, we got a lot of really awesome topics planned that we want to tackle first. Mix it up a bit. Otherwise we'll end up on a five week in a row empire binge and I can't handle that.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I think that's about it. Alright, well thank you so much everyone for watching. It has been great to be here with Scott and Drew and having internet that works. Not dying this episode was fantastic.


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[Assistant] And, uh, we look forward to nerding out with you all again very soon.


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[Assistant] Well that's an important thing about the hunt in general is that you have to have a degree of fairness. Everyone has to have a chance otherwise all the fun is gone and everything about his sphere is undermined.


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[Assistant] Which as we respect the lore of Fair Hunt, never taking a quarry that had no chance of escape.


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[Assistant] Among his favoured, which is, you know, mostly his, uhm, his, his beast folk, uhm, his were-creatures, he gives them really good boons, you know, like being able to control their transformations and things like that.


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[Assistant] You mentioned the, um, the elk head, uh, that he's so commonly portrayed with, and I really, it's, it's the case with a lot of the gods, but I really like the Khajiiti.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but she scorned him and chose Ifre instead. And, uh,


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[Assistant] Um, origin story for why he's depicted this way. And obviously, you know, that depiction is quite commonly seen and out.


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[Assistant] Scary. Well, some of the options, when the, the Blood Moon, in the Blood Moon DLC, you have some really powerful contenders all going, uhm, going at each other for, for her scene's favour. Uhm, just trying to find, remember exactly who it was.


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[Assistant] Well, there's definitely elements of extended lifespans involved, because the ring of Hircine, other than just giving them control over their transformations, there's proof that it also could give unnatural youth and just prolong their lives.


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[Assistant] I don't know exactly how long, but I'll try and find the exact source on that as we continue, but I think it's the person who was carrying it.


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[Assistant] You might have even been the leader of the Skull, who was carrying it. He lived much longer than he should have, because he was carrying the ring.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So that was believed to be the last unicorn, wasn't it? Until the Sigic came into play. Oh yeah. The creation club Sigics. Cause I'm pretty sure


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[Assistant] Yeah. Well, you know, it's not like the Sijics are up to some really important work. They're just trying to- They send a unicorn forward in time so that it doesn't go extinct. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I mean, one really weird thing about her scene, which I don't know if you guys have heard, but uhm, is the connection to Mehrunes Dagon.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Do you know much of it? Yeaah, it's, cause it's weird, you see ehm, obviously you've got the spear of bitter mercy, which is said to have been forged by Dagon and was wielded by, by Hircine, and then you have a kind of an offshoot of these great hunts, which is carried out by Dramora and Daedra in service to Meryn's Dagon, which is very similar in that they have mortals as hares to, to track down.


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[Assistant] But what's unusual is that one of the developers, Gary Noonan, described an early idea of her scene


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[Assistant] And the fact that Dagon doesn't really take sides, so long as he's inspiring a revolution, it doesn't really matter who he's supporting, you know. He's a hunter of change. In that sense, it is a bit of a game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so Sheogoro. Essentially, essentially it's when a fly lands on your face, and you're trying to get it out, and you're clawing at your eyes. Except, except you're a-


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[Assistant] That's wha- that's how I imagine the totems coming into play, is when they're still kind of formless being- beings, humans and elves, they weren't quite-


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[Assistant] It's a sort of phrase, singing a song. Her scene's beating the drum and things are coming into being. And the start of band! Woo!


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[Assistant] Which, while we're talking about that, I'll bring up the exact line. So I mentioned before that Farsten claimed to have an extended lifespan based on that ring. He specifically says,


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[Assistant] Yeah, well I guess you assume the ring is going to be able to change in size anyway if you're turning into a werecrop.


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[Assistant] What is up ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Elder Scrolls podcast. I'm Scott here with Michael and Drew as always and today we've got a very fun episode. We are going by a recommendation for one of you guys called Nims203 who recommended


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[Assistant] Yeah, or like, you know, maybe Tesla made one.


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[Assistant] So basically what we're gonna do is we're gonna go through this entire iceberg list and we're going to basically try and assess the


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[Assistant] And discern the memes from the real things and see if we even know what they're referencing. So it should be a fun one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, so Talos fake god, the idea that Talos is fake, not a real god, kind of like what the Thalmor would have you believe, and I guess there's sort of multiple theories around that.


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[Assistant] There's this, Maribor Saul is Gorham Felum, and this is to do with some of the Dwemer books about the idea that one of them's a, they're secretly an author of the other or something. Yeah, it's a plain


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[Assistant] Yeah. There's transcription errors, which we know is the infamous poor explanation for why Cyrodiil's no longer a jungle.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, Levitation Act, which is the whole really poor lore as to why there's no levitation spells in Oblivion, because the Empire's just like outlawed them with the Levitation Act.


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[Assistant] Uh, what do we got next? There's this, there's like a soul of a werewolf or something in one of the jewelry pieces that, uhm, Petima has. And she, last thing she does basically as a, as a, secretly as an old woman.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, cause it was like 100, over a hundred years later or something. Wasn't it like, I forget the great collapse date. It's something like 114 or something like that. Cannons is, um, pretty sure just referencing the idea that there were, there were cannons on the ships in Redguard Adventures, I'm pretty sure. And then so they're like, so gunpowder.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, curio plagiarist. So I guess the idea that Crassius Curio, uh, plagiarized his, uh, his famous- Well, on that-


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[Assistant] There is also that ridiculous, I think it's in ASO, there's a ridiculous coat where there's the, uhm,


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[Assistant] Dragon Cult, that happened. Yep. Uhm, uh, Hellseth murdered King Lethlin, so that's like, uh, King Lethlin is, uhm, Baron Zaya's, uh,


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[Assistant] I forget which way, it's Hellseth's great uncle and he was the king of Morrowind before him and the idea is that King Hellseth, uhm, set up the murders, well, the disappearances or the death on a hunting trip of both King Lethlen and his successor or his preferred successor. So, so then Hellseth, you know.


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[Assistant] The monomyth, which is the monomyth. It is what it is, it's the cause-telling of like creation. Uhm, uh.


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[Assistant] And it's the Thalmor tracking down, um, dissidents who were leaving, they fled into Hammerfell and they tracked them down and killed them.


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[Assistant] But wasn't the green fires, wasn't that way earlier? It was when Thalmor was just, uh, when, when, um, the Thalmor were just getting power earlier in history. Yeah. So it's like, so it was ones that were trying to run away from the regime, the Thalmor regime. And they were in like a refugee camp.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, Tribunal killed Nerevar, we, we know this one, like, through and through, talked about a lot. Heartstones, I guess, those, you know, from the Dragonborn DLC and the idea that they're, like, kind of connected to, to the heart of Lorkhan and that's, that's how the Ash Spawns sort of come about.


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[Assistant] Yeah, or affected it or something. White gold concordat, which is the treaty. They're signed at the end of the great war.


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[Assistant] Oblivion Crisis was an inside job though.


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[Assistant] The Nerevarine and Imperial Agent is sort of the idea that was sent like to fulfill the prophecy so that, um, Uriel Septim's empire could be like solidified and so on. Not that you are necessarily the Nerevarine. Hmm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so there's all the ideas that the Nerevarine, like they're just trying to, cause there's the whole, it's an outlander prophecy that an outlander will come and they were trying to fulfill.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, you never know. It seems more like an Easter egg. Um, Cameron's son, which Cameron is it referencing?


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[Assistant] I'm not sure, but it's also how like, cause you know how Cameron the usurper, isn't main card Cameron related to Cameron the usurper? Or-


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[Assistant] Gothrid betrayed Lysandus, which is the idea of the events of Dagger 4 when he-


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, that one fits, I think, to even like, so the idea that it's not Sheogorath that flung the meteor at Vivek's city, it was actually Vivek who secretly did it so that he could position himself as the protector of it, which I feel like fits in his sphere of-


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[Assistant] He could have, he admits that though, because then there's the whole-


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause there's the whole, there's a whole, uh, section there where it's going on about how, um, in one of the writings, one of the temple's writings, it's so much cope. It's like Stockholm syndrome, but talking about it's like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but the way, the way it's written about is such a sort of dogmatic cope. It's like Stockholm syndrome almost. It's like, it's an interesting brainwashing kind of thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so it's a bit, it's a book, but about the idea that, uhm, Hjolti Earlybeard was a Breton who became the Tiber Septim and then Talos, the, the god is a combination of three individuals, not just the sort of conventional, um, orthodox idea where it's like, you know, he was so great that he became a god and joined the divines.


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[Assistant] Instead he did it through some, uh, pretty rough trickery.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I actually had to look that one up. Uhm, and it was like an idea that elves are related to fairies. Well, there's a hi- and there's some hierarchy.


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[Assistant] What is that next one? Elysian yet the next word. I can't even make it out.


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[Assistant] Elysian year. Elysian year, right? Oh, Elysian year.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I don't know. Oh, alyds, that's not really a, uh, theory, but alyds exist. Yeah. Uh, cause a lot of these aren't theories. Sometimes these are like just kind of like topics of law, which represent how deep you are into law. And I guess it's the whole idea.


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[Assistant] Khajiit are elves, which is actually a really, especially with the Elder Scrolls Online adding more and more, it's a really well founded theory. Uhm.


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[Assistant] The annuad, I wonder if that's a reference to the idea that it's, you know, it's all like the annuad paraphrased or the annotated annuad, but like, we don't read the real annuad, like that's, you know what I mean? Like, I think it's just a, something like that.


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[Assistant] Uh, Six House Cults, uh, we know about this, the Six House in, in the events of Morrowind. Well, even before the cults existed for a long time, but, um, yeaah, not actually 7,000 steps, which is just a reference to the, the game doesn't actually have 7,000 steps on the way up to Highrothgar. It's, I can't remember the exact number of what's


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[Assistant] Ultimately, it's a game limitation, I think. Like, it's not like I think they would have 7,000 steps if it made sense. It's just, um, Draven Indoril being the nightingale that, um, slept with Baran Zaya. Yeah. And then had a kid and had a, that kid had another kid and that kid was Carlyle. Um, what else we got there?


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[Assistant] Hero of Kvatch's Sheogorath, that's pretty, you know, well known, like at the end of Oblivion. It's not really a crazy theory.


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[Assistant] There is, there is some fan, it's completely fan lore from my understanding, but there's stuff about like making like bat people that live on there, but I think like,


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[Assistant] U-Utak Mythos or something like that. It's like basically a fan theory stuff or like basically they're fleshing out the lore of- of that place.


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[Assistant] I think. I can't quite remember. I've seen it on Twitter before, but uhm, Underground Falmer Colonies? Is that even a...


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[Assistant] Uh, Blood Moon prophecy, you know the events of Blood Moon, the idea that Hercene's gonna come back every era with a big great hunt. Versa-Douche killed Reamon III, that's a pretty, you know, acceptable sort of theory.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, I guess the only thing about Molag Bell's, like, corruption of, of the bloodlines, making them vampires, maybe they don't want them to come back or just eliminate them, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Keep vampire hunters in business. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's a vampire hunter scam.


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[Assistant] Titus Meade II not present at the Battle of Red Ring. That is unfortunately true because of legends that made it so there's the Forgotten Hero takes the place in the Emperor's Armour. I hated that so much.


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[Assistant] That's so cringe. Can we move on from that one? Goblin slave armies. So I think this is referenced. I think there's a small line somewhere referencing about, um, in Morrowind, I'm pretty sure about, um,


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[Assistant] Somerset Isles having armies of slaves, oh, of goblin slaves, but then, that their armies were, sorry, their armies were majority made up of goblin slaves or something, but we know that they had them.


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[Assistant] I feel like that's one of the older ideas that doesn't really stack up with the new lore that's added in Elder Scrolls Online. There's just too much stuff that makes the moons out to be as such independent. Joan and Jode separate things and then there's some third moon and anyway.


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[Assistant] I wonder if that's an illegal, like, it's like a, I don't know what it is exactly, but if it's about like, hunting Khajiit and illegally selling them. It is, there's a whole book about it.


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[Assistant] They're all wearing like Argonian like sort of like reptile skin boots and handbags and they've got like Khajiit like furs wrapped around his scarves and stuff.


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[Assistant] Is that Somerset mythical beasts? Uhm.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I guess maybe the Illyadi, the ancient sort of fairy giants, maybe that's one of the mythical beasts there. Yeah, I couldn't- I couldn't-


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[Assistant] That's just the, which is just the file. Yep.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't think that's a good one at all. Cause there's like, either, either they're like,


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[Assistant] They're either, if anything, there's the whole stuff with the Atmora and connected to Nords or they're like kind of something else. I don't really think, like the Orcs is weird cause you know, they came from Elves. I don't know. I don't really buy into that one.


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[Assistant] Or maybe it was during the time when Ulfric had, uhm, captured Markhar. Uhm, can't quite remember. But there's plenty of examples of native Reachmen with land being kicked off. Like, you know, not violent like the Forsworn, but they're just trying to-


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[Assistant] I can't remember exactly what it is, but it's something along the lines of- We'll have to investigate that.


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[Assistant] Cause Carthwaston's one of the last, uhm, areas. Oh, it says, eh, the Imperials mention they want compensation from the Stormcloaks for the massacre in Carthwaston.


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[Assistant] Cause I know Cathweston's supposed to be one of the last, uhm, it's like one of the last Reachman sort of landowners, I think. Cause he has all the tattoos and stuff, uhm. But yea, Greycal, we know about the Greycal.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Falmer Wisp Mothers is an idea that I even kinda like. I've talked about that, like, uhm, that they, like, snow elves as vengeful spirits have, like, stayed around, cause you look and then they've got the pointy ears and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Interesting theory. It's kind of related to the ultimate sort of baby killing thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what is the, which exact like, I mean that could mean a lot of things.


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[Assistant] Fort Dorngaard built for Harkin. Cause the, uh, Fort Dorngaard was built for a, uh, like a prince or a son of a Jarl or something in Riften, right, to be imprisoned cause he was a vampire but they needed to keep him there, they didn't want to kill him.


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[Assistant] Yep, I mean that's reasonable. Yeah, he's super powerful and I'm sure he has a few tricks


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[Assistant] Cause I know, I know in legends, in one of the things that is set in the fourth era, he is, um, he, one of his daughters, one of these clone daughters is alive. And is in part on the story, so I'm not.


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[Assistant] Old ways, that can be referencing, uh, there's a few old ways, cause I know I forget, um, there's the old ways that it's like the centaurs mysticism kind of stuff, but isn't there a something Nord old ways as well?


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[Assistant] It's probably more so, I think it's more conspiracy sort of referencing the mysticism, centaurs believing in it and the sigic order sort of. Do you know what I mean? I feel like that's a bit more.


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[Assistant] Slowed soap made from slowed. Controversial.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's the headless horseman, and there's the whole idea that that headless horseman running around the Whiterun Plains is the, is the, uh, Rorick from Rorickstead. Oh, sorry, no. Ragnar the Red. Ragnar the Red, that one. They got his head lopped off.


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[Assistant] Well that's, cause the song has it and then the guy, there's the, cause Rorik did found Rorik's dead. Is the, is the thing. Uhm, what do we got next? Memory stones.


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[Assistant] But there is a giant mud crab in, in, in the plains in Whiterun. There's that Easter one that's stuck in the ground.


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[Assistant] What do they call it? I forgot the name for it. It was like a developer mashup where the developers, it was a week after or something that the developers could go wild with whatever they wanted to put in, like a fun thing. And they actually


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[Assistant] I think it is the old way, cause it says under white gold, not the imperial city, underneath a tower.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I can't remember specifically. I mean, there's plenty of cults that are technically like, like Mythic Dorns technically an End of Times cult. No, I remember this.


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[Assistant] I forgot the name of the real cult, the one that's like they feed him all the poisoned Kool-Aid. Yeah. Yeah, Jonestown. Yeah. I mean, I think it actually-


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[Assistant] They're in ESO. Yeah, giantess. Yeah, giantess. Meteoric glass, they used to make glass armor with.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, sorry, wrong one. Yeaah, yeaah. Meteorite Gloss. My bad. Yeaah. Cause that's, uhm. Yeaah. Yeaah. Alicia's Burial Place.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would go with the Senkator one, just cause the myths around Senkator as well, and the like, the significance of that place. Uhm, Doppelganger Ayres, uh, I mean that could reference a bunch of things, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Right. So, okay, so in Gnosticism, blah, blah, uhm, a heavenly being subordinate to the supreme being that is considered to be the controller of the material world and antagonistic to all that is purely spiritual.


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[Assistant] So that's kind of like Lorcan, like, you know, making everything material and, and, and binding it into this sort of mortal material world instead of this sort of endless.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Nords actually from Skyrim. That's actually something I, in the, I think I said uhm, in one of the secrets of it more video or something. Basically explaining how that Nords, uhm, because the conventional idea is that kind breathe life onto them onto the throat of the world, which is obviously located in Skyrim, but,


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[Assistant] In a lot of the myths before Tamriel was part of this sort of one big supercontinent. So the idea is that the, the Nords were born onto the world, but then they were, you know, they're fighting in all the Elnife wars kind of stuff. And then they were, when the continent split, they were stuck on the Atmora side. So when Isgrimor's coming back and everything, it is kind of like a return to their homeland anyway.


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[Assistant] Well that's, that's if they're wondering Elnife specifically, but I guess the Nords mythology putting it with it would say that the Nords were created as this specific, separate sort of like entity by pie.


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[Assistant] It gets wack. This is all myth and stuff. Like, you can rationalize a lot of different mythologies and so on and try and reconcile them, but it's a possibility, but it's...


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[Assistant] If you want to look at it a very like hyper sort of material kind of like, if you want to dismiss all the mythological elements, then it's more likely they came from Atmora and then use, you know, where from Skyrim to just sort of, uh, you know, have a greater claim to their homeland and an excuse to get rid of everyone else that's there. Um, the serpent constellation.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Dunmer Genealogy, I don't know what's


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[Assistant] I mean, maybe it is just, well, I mean, done with it. They just love tracking their bloodlines and they're like ancestor worship's a massively important part and they'll even like call upon their ancestors. So I guess just that, um, racial phylogeny.


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[Assistant] It's essentially just a development excuse why they don't have to put in half-breeds. Racists, really. Wine knives. This is a reference from, is it Isgrimmar stuff? It's Kirkbride. Yea, but is it Nord-related?


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[Assistant] And I guess that's just the anti sort of like Atmora theory that said that the Nords are truly separate and that there were native humans.


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[Assistant] I don't know what to say anymore. Look, you know what? I'll do you guys a solid. You can say whatever one you like and I'm not going to get all like stirred up about it. It's like uhm, uhm.


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[Assistant] See that theory, that was a theory that was prominent in the time of Blood Moon, like in Morrowind era kind of stuff because-


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I think so there's parts about, I can't remember exactly what it is, but, but uhm, all of that theory makes a little bit more sense before we obviously see the Falmer in Skyrim, you know what I mean? It doesn't really stack up now. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, Mournhold City built over at Dwemer City over at Daedric City.


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[Assistant] Cause there's ruins and stuff of it, and then, and in Daedric city, by Daedric city, I'm assuming it just means like early Chima, sort of the same like Daedric ruins that were, but they're like Veloth-y kind of times.


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[Assistant] But sure, such, such is supposed, was just a, you know, shitty little fortress and oblivion, but uhm, it was originally supposed to be like a powerful sort of city-state kind of thing.


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[Assistant] The Dragon Break, there's been a few actually, but uh, Dragon Breaks in general, we know about them.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah. But I guess the mythic dawns are- ah, not the mythic dawns, the middle dawns. Oh yeaah, true.


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[Assistant] The Anumidium Blueprints, so that's the blueprints that, um, Yegrim Bagan refuses to translate because he doesn't think anyone else should have that knowledge. The Wasabi Trade. Yeah, so.


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[Assistant] Oh, that does sound vaguely familiar, actually.


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[Assistant] But, uh, anyway, Celestials, uhm, they're the, like, the constellations given sort of form consciousness that, uhm, it's all in the, uhm, the Nidic, Vollenfell sort of settlements.


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[Assistant] I can't, it's the, it's the ESO. It's a bit wack to be honest, cause I kind of remember reading it at first and I wasn't that crash hot on the idea cause I'm like.


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[Assistant] How are the stars gods? But like, whatever, it's another myth. Like you live in- Elder Scrolls is just a world of lots and lots of myths combining, so it's not always gonna make perfectly logical sense. That's the largest cope you can ever make for the Elder Scrolls lore.


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[Assistant] There's Alidun for the Alids, but that's, I don't know if the other ones are named. Yeaah. The other languages. True.


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[Assistant] Guardian signs? So, that's some-


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[Assistant] Guardian stones? Is that re- just reference- are they called- oh my god, are they called guardian stones? What are they called?


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[Assistant] Minotaurs, there's the obviously like disputed kind of stuff, whether they're just a creature, a monster, or they are actually, you know, descendants of Alicia and Morrowouse's union.


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[Assistant] I guess that's just Lorcan's idea that like, that Nern and all of Mundus is just a sort of, um, a big test or challenge so that you can transcend beyond. And they have different like views. Yeah, which is kind of what the good Daedra say.


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[Assistant] Warp in the West, second Numidium effect, so that's the Numidium being used for the Warp in the West, so there's all the different things that reconciled, the Dragon Break happens.


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[Assistant] Right, so I had to, I just actually looked this next one up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the Lunar Lorcan, and he also wrote the Dragon Break re-exam.


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[Assistant] Yeah, oh, it's the Marook, uhm, it's a piece from Marook. Oh, I remember this. Is this the one that mentions the cross?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, it's about Elysian, uhm, yeah, all the Elysian doctrines and stuff and the sort of the idea that, yeah.


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[Assistant] So an easy way to think about it is just Nimix being named, so Proto before, like your first kind of thing in a Neo new name.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Temple Zero slash Null Manifesto. So, by Temple Zero, I'm pretty sure it's referencing the, the, uhm, Emperor, like the Temple to Kulakane, like, uh, Emperor Zero, they call him. Basically, that's the guy that was cooking up to be Emperor before he was assassinated and Tiber Septim took his place.


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[Assistant] Southassil location, city, Southassil city location, uhm.


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[Assistant] Oh, is that referencing because, because Mournhold is called like Almalexia as well, and then Vivec City is called Vivec, where is like Sotha Sil City? I don't know what's a conventional idea is there is like Clockwork City, but it's not named that. Like if there is, maybe it's like a conspiracy sort of thing. Is there a Sotha Sil City?


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[Assistant] So many times about that, but, uh, it's just generally it's the idea of these Shezareans of the different, um, mortal sort of incarnations of the soul of Shezar, which is, is also like Lorcan is the other name for Shezar. Um, soul gem immortality.


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[Assistant] Maybe it's, maybe there's Easter eggs or something in Older Scrolls where it's hidden around or something. Like, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I don't know. We can move past, I want Xandmir's. We know about them, the big ancient Argonian societies that built the big structures.


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[Assistant] Now keep going, keep going, we'll get through, let's keep going through the whole next section, we'll get to, get up to Glothi. Glothi with the blue armor.


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[Assistant] Nagasta Kovata Kovakis. Isn't that just the writings of the, uhm, of Nagasta the Slowed Necromancer?


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[Assistant] Nords were giants. There's theories that, you know, back in the day, Atmore and race was all like one big race. And then that they were all like sort of big intelligent people, but then they split into small intelligent and big and dumb.


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[Assistant] Like, which were the giants that you see today? The last dragonborn is Talos.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's all ideas like that, there's a chezereine and all kinds of stuff, so.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, yeaah. I don't know, there's theories about it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, so we know that it's an allegory for a phallus and a lot of Vivec's writings. A spear, specifically. Yes, Mouachre is Vivec's spear.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I think I'm actually gonna, I wanted to do a video on Breihardt sooner. I'm gonna look into that. I think that's actually a really good idea with some of the more recent, um,


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[Assistant] Uh, mythology added, uh, sorry, lore added to the, uh, to the Reachman's mythology in Elder Scrolls Online. Yeah, because we're just in that, that like lore, Lorkhan is relevant in their sphere and the stuff with Namira as well and Lorkhan and Namira are related. So like,


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[Assistant] Uh, Numero is, is the queen of the spirit world and Lorcan sort of asked her to have create a space for them in this real world, but he had to sacrifice himself to do it. So it's kind of like in there, in there.


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[Assistant] You know some of them like, I feel like, they get that like, lizard people tier, kind of.


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[Assistant] Uh, the trial of Vivek is just, uh, one of Kirkbrides. Well, actually I had a few people working on it because it was like a forum sort of like play kind of thing, but it's to do with, um, Vivek being on trial for the crimes, uh, like post-Morrowind that, uh,


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Anyway, Reavers from the North. So.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm actually, they could reference a few things. Like, so they were called Reavers, as in like, so Reavers is sort of like a pirate-y kind of thing in, uhm, the Dragonborn DLC in Solstheim, the Dunmer, but also you could reference to any sort of like pirates or something from the North, like from Atmora, it could even be like the Sea Giants as pirates and stuff like that as calling them Reavers, you know? I'm, I'm, I'm trying


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[Assistant] A-Abogalus? Is that, uh, Merlach Bell's Alid City? Or, well, Alid City that... I can't remember. I'm, uh, mixing it up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the one that's in the story. Yeah. The conflict with the city of Meridi, um, De La Dille. Yeah. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You mentioned this before, but you kinda gotta like balance what are just, you know, antiquated gameplay kind of things from the days of Arena and Daggerfall into a modern sort of like lore context. Like, not everything in the games is going to be in the same way that like, Whiterun's not actually a city of 30 people.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the thing too, it's like, it's interesting, but the moths are, are like somehow intrinsically connected with the Elder Scrolls. Like, you know, the moth priests need them to read the Elder Scrolls and it's sort of like just this kind of, I like them, I like moths, I think it's an interesting, cool connection that they're connected to.


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[Assistant] I mean, she did, but like, isn't that dangerous?


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[Assistant] Celia Cameron as in, oh but would she be Cameron from the actual Cameron dynasty? No.


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[Assistant] But isn't she just pretending to be, uhm, royalty from the, uhm, from Valenwood? Not as in Mankar Cameron's split line, like as in Cameron Donahue.


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[Assistant] But I feel like it could be done as a scholarly request, I guess.


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[Assistant] Tri- Triangled Truth, which is, uh, reference to the Good Daedra. Pretty sure. It's the-


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[Assistant] Uhm, ancestor worship, uh, I don't know, a lot of people do it, like the Sijic order does it, Dunma do it, plenty of others do it.


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[Assistant] World eating, so Alduin, uhm, coming to eat the world, and it's also, uhm, you know, that's impor- like, inherently connected to the idea of calipers and stuff to destroy it and so on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the secret of the ooze, so there's lots of stuff around there with the idea that Valen would, there was this oozey people and Ifri made them into a stable form. Um, prophecy writing.


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[Assistant] I guess that's in reference to the idea that the Elder Scrolls can be kind of written the same way that like, that Harkon sort of, uh, sorry, not, uh, Archcurate Vyther set forth a sort of prophecy about blotting out the sun, and then it actually became represented in an Elder Scroll, and then...


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[Assistant] Became a legit prophecy so you can kind of write prophecy and that all fits into the sort of the big kind of mythic nature of the universe how like belief kind of becomes reality through enforcing ideas and all that kind of stuff.


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[Assistant] The 11 forces, I'm actually off the top of my head, do not know.


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[Assistant] Uh, Dwemer ghosts, uh, that's interesting, that's all the ghosts you can find in Morrowind of the Dwemer, which also leads to kind of like, mix up, like, do they zero sum, or a sum, or it could also be sum of dead, and it just ghosts of Dwemer before that.


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[Assistant] The Halls of the Colossus, that is where the Numidium was constructed by Tybus Septum.


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[Assistant] And also, well by like, well reconstructed technically. And then also I'm pretty sure it's where the, the dragons were locked. Yeah. Kalgrontid and Kho.


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[Assistant] Where are we up? Mantling. We're up to mantling. So this is the concept.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Tiber's Purges, so that's the idea that when he activated the Numidium and used that to conquer the Summerset Isles, he also went ahead and purged all


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[Assistant] Uh, like, you know, royal families and stuff and stuff that weren't like explicitly loyal to him and so on. So he just went on this giant purge to basically make sure that he could properly unify everyone during this big.


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[Assistant] Drag and break kind of thing. Well, through the use of the new medium. So, and it probably extends to outside the use of the new medium, but I'm pretty sure it was Xeren Arctus that had a big problem with that. And that's part of the reason, uhm, the new medium was, uh, destroyed again. And the whole, then you have the whole plot of Daggerfall.


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[Assistant] Shallador's Lost Writing, so Shallador being the famous arch-Nordic archmage, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Uhm, black books, which you know, they're writings of Emmaus.


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[Assistant] They're just the books that are in Himaeus Moris' realm. I don't know if he explicitly writes them, it's like collections of stuff, but there's some interesting like, you know,


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[Assistant] I've read it a few times before, like. The godhead stuff. Yea, attempts to impose order on the consensus mantlings of an uncaring godhead. But then there's even stuff about, like, uh, references to sort of some Ysgrimor stuff, but they're only bite-sized parts that we actually get.


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[Assistant] So I know I've heard of House Mora, uhm, what's the Rathym part? Sounds familiar.


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[Assistant] Talos equals Lorcan, so that's the whole idea that like, so obviously Lorcan being kind of, you know, his heart's ripped out, he's sort of part of the world that kind of, the creation of Talos is kind of more like, like the new Lorcan, like he's replacing, like an alive version of Lorcan kind of thing.


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[Assistant] It's complicated. We've kind of talked bits and pieces about it throughout our history of videos, but uhm.