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[Assistant] Here in the distance. No, so yea, like, you genuinely have to just do lots of stretches, warm up the muscles, cause it's like, they're so contracted for so long, and if you don't, ow. You hear that?


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[Assistant] I just can't, you know, can't eat anything that you want anymore without like, can't, I don't know, if I don't get, if I, I mean, I have chronic fatigue, but if I don't get, you know, I used to run off seven hours of sleep, and now, less than nine, I'm dead.


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[Assistant] So I only recently, actually, you know, earlier this year got a VR headset because I struggled a lot with motion sickness and so


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[Assistant] Uhm, I used to live with a friend of mine and he bought an Oculus, a DK2, an Oculus, uh, back when it was still called Oculus, and uhm, I physically could not.


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[Assistant] Play it? There's actually, I can't remember what game it was. I was, I think the first member of the press.


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[Assistant] You, you, to bend down in the game you have to press B on the controller and the character would just bend down.


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[Assistant] He took the headset from me and then he also had a very low VR tolerance and so he was basically retching his way through playing his own game and I felt so mad.


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[Assistant] So for a long time I was not really into VR until I got to play the Vive at Gamescom one year and I got to do the underwater, you know, the big whale demo and I was like, oh, this is so cool. I cannot move around in this though.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then obviously as technology's changed, I recently bought an, uh,


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[Assistant] What is it, MetaQuest 2 and OculusQuest 2? Which I use only for Beat Saber.


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[Assistant] I've got the Lady Gaga pack, I can do telephone on hard now.


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[Assistant] No, but I imagine that Dragula would be an absolutely exceptional game to play in Beat Saber VR if it existed, I guess. But yea, so that's my VR.


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[Assistant] How does this sit with you, like both in terms of pricing, in terms of the game, cause like, those are the 11 new games we haven't talked about yet, there's gonna be like Resident Evil 4, yea there's a bunch more.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's just, you know, as, you know, people who cover shows and stuff, I...


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[Assistant] I don't know about you guys, but like, every time I saw- I always called him Nebelian.


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[Assistant] To rhyme with rebellion, so I will say that. Uhm, but like, I was so in a-bellion.


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[Assistant] Fast work, it was good work, and like, I hate that they're saying like, I miscalculated the value, and it's like, nooo, man, this is like, yea, you-


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[Assistant] I mean, I feel, I feel though, if they feel like they had an unhealthy relationship with Twitter and they wanted to step away because of that, totally accepted. They did also say like, obviously with everything going on in Twitter right now, and please it's been on my feed, and it's kind of just immensely depressing, uhm, so we'll not delve into that.


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[Assistant] Honestly, it's more like I just follow so many games people that whatever is happening just automatically gets surfaced. You know?


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[Assistant] We have a breaking news, uh, GameSpot Slack, and that's where everything goes.


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[Assistant] We, we just have like, everything that gets, uh, you know, important press releases that come through, any emails, like pre-writes, anything, you know, goes in there, as well as like, people just drop tweets like,


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[Assistant] People are just on Twitter all the time. League is an integral part of our jobs and especially for the news team because you'll just have like a bunch of developers open and so, or, you know, Shrya or VGC and it's like, okay, someone drops the link in and then everyone kind of gets access to it. So, on work hours, Gamespot, new Slack is where it's at, uhm, and then the rest of the time it's like, yeaah,


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[Assistant] You know, otherwise it'd be games 24-7. I need that half hour where I'm just looking at, uhm, pimple popping, I dunno.


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[Assistant] Actually no, my favorite subreddit is bestofredditorupdates, cause it's usually all the wackiest, um, stories from like relationships or whatever, and then they always get the updates so you find out what happens and so they're always just kind of like- Oh the follow-up, ooh I like that. Yeah, but they're also like 90% fake anyway, but it's just nice to get like a bit of closure.


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[Assistant] Matt, thank you so much for joining us. Uhm, I think the big question is,


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[Assistant] How do you, what's your journey to a position like yours?


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[Assistant] Amazing position where you get to see all of these games very early on, all the way from inception through development.


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[Assistant] As a, as a kind of gamer, what does that feel like? Does it, do you miss the days of just being able to play a finished product or do you love seeing the journey?


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[Assistant] Get, uh, you could mess around, faff about in Unity or Unreal.


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[Assistant] You have? Just like written, like Twine, and I made one in, uh, is it Renpi? It's the same engine that they made Doki Doki Literature Club in.


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[Assistant] Cause I did, I got bored in the pandemic and I did a games writing course cause I was like, why not?


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[Assistant] So I've got a couple. It's fun, like honestly it's just like...


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[Assistant] But like, approaching writing for a game, like approaching writing something that's, you know, written down and gonna be read aloud by someone's voice who's potentially not yours is like a very different concept for me because I always write for myself and I rarely get to tell


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[Assistant] Stories that aren't, here's the story of how this game was made, you know, and so it's kind of nice to just flex a different kind of muscle and then.


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[Assistant] You kind of get this when you, when you work in, I guess, content creation or anything, you know, you get to see the final product at the end, but there was something different about watching something you've made versus playing something you've made.


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[Assistant] It's wild how quickly your brain goes, oh well that, that bit's not gonna work, that path isn't gonna work, I need to completely rework this. It's just, it's really fun. I wish I had more time to do it.


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[Assistant] I really want to, but I need, I feel like we always talk about that we don't play games together.


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[Assistant] Uh, well speaking of Obsidian, that's a very nice segue into talking about a game like Pentament, which is...


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[Assistant] Very out of the box, uhm, especially considering just


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[Assistant] What was the pitch for that game like? Was it an immediate yes from Xbox or did you all need to take some convincing?


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[Assistant] I don't think- Yeah, I think that's a really great point. I also think like-


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[Assistant] The Netflix comparison can be a bit, like it can work and it also can't because Netflix like never releases figures or, you know, Netflix's version of like how much a movie has been watched or like how many people have watched a movie is kind of weird the way that they measure it.


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[Assistant] The thing with Game Pass is like, yes, if you are an Xbox first party, or now I guess, Bethesda 2, like, you release onto the service typically day one. But like Matt said, there is the option to buy it.


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[Assistant] Like, you can always buy stuff as well. But you can, but you can also buy stuff, you know, some stuff will go on Game Pass and then it'll usually always go on PC.


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[Assistant] It'll come to PlayStation later or something. So there is that. I think this is a broader discussion about just the loss of physical media, which is, you know, I don't necessarily think Xbox is gonna go the fucking Warner Brothers discovery route of writing things off for tax reasons, uhm.


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[Assistant] Just like, conservation is front of mind.


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[Assistant] Plague Tale is how I got that on Game Pass the first time I think, and then Requiem launched on there, and so if it's giving a boost, and also if it helps games like Pentament get made, like could you imagine anyone actually saying, oh yea we'll make Pentament? Like this weird game about like the middle ages.


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[Assistant] I was gonna say, like, everyone, I think everyone was so ready for Halo to be good again, like I remember just the outpouring of positivity when Infinite launched and people just got back into it. That was a great...


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[Assistant] And then it just kind of fell off and I think people...


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[Assistant] I'm kind of ready for that again, or I hope that they are, cause I mean, that multiplayer is...


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[Assistant] Good man, it feels so good and I just want more new stuff. Give me reasons to play more of it, you know?


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[Assistant] And just like a final quick one to finish, you got a lot of games coming out over the next 12 or so months and beyond. If you had to pick one from the Xbox portfolio...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I saw- You guys heard? I haven't watched it yet, but I did see Digital Foundry, um, I think they released a video called like Stutter Boy or something, so maybe it also like doesn't run very well.


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[Assistant] Stutter Boy, that's so disrespectful to him and his legacy. Oh yea, the hashtag, no no hang on. SackboyabigadventurePC, the hashtag stutter struggle is real. That was it. Not Stutter Boy.


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[Assistant] What's the other one, uhm, uh, what is it called? Like, to dawn? Something to dawn.


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[Assistant] So, uh, Jordan Romay on the Gamespot team was on the podcast last week and was singing its praises. It is a management sim, similar to the start of Stardew Valley, you know, your


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[Assistant] In Saju, your grandfather's left you a little farm in this one. Your uncle has gone to a mysterious island where there was a witch.


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[Assistant] Uh, that people defeated, and then he opened up a potion shop there, uh, then he dies under mysterious circumstances, and you find out he's taken out an incredibly...


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[Assistant] Ambitious loan to buy this potion shop and that because you're his heir, it falls to you now. So you basically-


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[Assistant] So you basically have to run a potion shop and that means, you know, making sure there's stock.


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[Assistant] Mixing up potions, selling them, but the selling is actually a card battle game, minigame.


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[Assistant] And so it's really cool. And so on top of that, there is social sim stuff where there's different people who come in different friends that you make. You also have like a talking owl friend.


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[Assistant] And then you can send, you know, one of your friends is an adventurer, for example. So you can send them out to go and get rare.


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[Assistant] Or more, uh, items for you that you then make into potions. So there's all these kind of nice little gameplay loops. Uh, I think it's really well written as well. It's not voiced, but the writing's really funny.


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[Assistant] There was one character that I ran into, Baptiste, who does like the JoJo pose, and doing all this, and like as someone who's watching JoJo's Absorb Adventure for the first time, did very much appreciate that. Uhm, but yea, you can befriend people, uhm, so it-


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[Assistant] And, uh, no, it's just a really fun one. I'm playing it on Steam Deck, and, uh, it's just...


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[Assistant] I mean, the biggest complaint I've heard about it so far is that people just wish there was an endless mode. So in order to pay back the loan, you kind of...


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[Assistant] Get in, you enter into like these competitions so you have, you know, every few days or so there'll be one of these big competitions and that's kind of like the benchmark for progress and uh, people really want there to be a free roam.


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[Assistant] Kind of version free play at the end, and I really hope they add that in. It's a lot of fun, it's just very chill. So that's my Lucy ass game for this episode.


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[Assistant] So, your day is split up into, uh, obviously times, time of day, uh, and so in between kind of like the downtime, I guess, when you're not in the shop, you can go brew potions, you get a different bonus based on how you display your potions, you can go talk to everyone,


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[Assistant] When you're in the shop itself, that is all the card system.


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[Assistant] And it's really fun. So instead of health, they have patience and you know, the more turns you do, the more cards, so you can play these cards where you basically like your opening card could be, um,


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[Assistant] You're opening pitch, which would raise their interest and the more they're interested, the more they'll pay, but it will decrease their patience. And so.


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[Assistant] You basically have to find this nice balance of getting them more interested so you get more money, because at the end of the day you do have a loan to repay, but also not wearing down their patience, and also it's really- it's got some really nice messaging in there because your character doesn't lose health, they get stressed.


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[Assistant] And so there are some bits where, you know, your little owl friend will be like, Hey,


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[Assistant] If things get too much for you, why not go hang out with a friend? That'll ease your stress. Or why don't you just call it an early night if you're stressed. And it's like, it's just really nice. And it's, you know, just a nice way to gamify, uhm, taking care of yourself and stepping back every so often. So it's very, it's very fun. I'm enjoying it a lot.


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[Assistant] I'm terrible at them, but I just love how camp they are. I love how over the top they are. I, it's, yeah, I love them so much. They just know exactly what they are. They're a lot of fun.


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[Assistant] The movies. Uh, no, I, honestly, Doctor Strange was the real tipping point for me. I was just like, oh.


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[Assistant] He's dead, but I'm more of a bad fun.


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[Assistant] And so everyone on my feed was tweeting about it, like the usual suspects, Greg Miller was tweeting about it, and like, I know, I know how much Greg loves Marvel stuff, and I was just like, I'm gonna ignore him. But then everyone else started, and then everyone else, no I'm kidding.


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[Assistant] Everyone else started tweeting about it and I was like, okay, god, alright. Downloaded it.


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[Assistant] It's made by Ben Brode and like the Hearthstone, you know, a lot of folks who worked on Hearthstone.


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[Assistant] To the point where we played it in the office so much that UK IT cut off access to Battle.net and we had to be like, no, I'm afraid you have to turn that back on because we do generally need it for work. We're sorry we're playing this game so much. It's just really good. And, uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a card battler, six turns. There are three location cards in the middle, and each location has a different impact it'll have, so you know, some places will be like, okay, no card can be played here on the fifth turn, or if you have more cards here, you get double the power.


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[Assistant] And then it's up to you to position your Marvel heroes or villains and whatever into these three different locations.


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[Assistant] And, um, each card has a power attached to it, uh, and a cost, and so it's up to you to manage the amount of power that you have, um,


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[Assistant] And place all your guys on the board and win. And it's really good. And when you level up, you unlock more cards. The more you use cards, you can change how they look.


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[Assistant] So it really also gets to the collector in you as well, and then you, it's deck building, uhm.


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[Assistant] As far, as far as I can tell, the monetization is like, there is a regular, I think there's a free battle pass and there's a battle pass you can pay for, uhm, and then most of the monetization is beyond that battle pass is paying for like,


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[Assistant] It's full of marbles. The Punisher is actually an amazing card early on. But yea, no, no, it's all marble and then there are different, um, like cards, uh, like versions of them. So if, when you level them up, you can get like different looks for them and different card backs and everything. And so it is really,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and they kind of do a really good job at looking at the Marvel roster beyond just who's made it big in the MCU.


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[Assistant] And as an X-Men fan, I really appreciate that. It's good to see him in the, uhm,


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[Assistant] No, it's just something that's like, you know, if I'm in between meetings and I'm like, oh, I'm just going, you know, it's, it's quick. It's not as, uh, much of a time investment. And so.


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[Assistant] But what I do, it does feel good. I genuinely, I feel like, uhm.


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[Assistant] So we, we did that for audio logs that moment, and I, someone was like, we have to put Blades of Chaos on there, and I was like, mm, mm, mm. So we ended up going with how God of War's most impactful moment almost didn't happen.


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[Assistant] I wish that I'd played God of War 2018 just before playing this and just experienced the whole thing as like one.


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[Assistant] Big adventure kind of thing, I wish I'd done that because I feel like...


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[Assistant] Not that the emotional moments aren't hitting, because they absolutely are, but just to have the, you know, part one of the story so fresh in the memory would have been really, really great.


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[Assistant] But yea, it does feel like a continuation in many ways, like as soon as you start the game, you pick up your weapons and you're like, oh, I'm going straight into this, like I know exactly where I am, I know exactly what I'm doing, the stakes are higher, and like,


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[Assistant] It definitely pushes you towards, uhm, and through that story really, really well. But also it, like, references the first game a lot, so.


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[Assistant] The additions in there, like, uh, from new moves and whatever, are like, are fun. I, definitely, cause you can now, you know, do that thing where you sort of chart, like, imbue your...


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[Assistant] I can let off a bunch of frost and like, get rid of these guys and you know.


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[Assistant] The thing, the thing that gets me is that like, I think the combat is great, I really enjoy it, feels crunchy, feels good.


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[Assistant] I'm getting to the point where the story's picking up so much that I'm like...


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[Assistant] Like maybe my one bugbear with it is I don't want to spend time in those menus, man. I don't want to spend time talking to like upgrading equipment and stuff. I get why it's there. It's great to unlock new stuff and kind of do the mix and match, but I just find that it takes me out. Like I don't necessarily want to have to do it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because, but that's purely because the rest of it is so good. Uhm, performances are, I mean, to be expected, they are fantastic. Like,


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[Assistant] I, some of the moments in the, there's like one character who,


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna say who it is or what the context is, but they let out this scream?


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[Assistant] And I was like, oh my god, okay, how did you get that recorded? Let alone, you know, like, get the whole motion capture and performance capture stuff done. Uhm, very, very moving. It's, it's just phenomenal the ways that they explore that father-son relationship and like,


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[Assistant] Not just within the kind of context of Kratos and Atreus talking to each other, but like how the relationship is perceived upon by other characters and how others comment on it and how, um,


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[Assistant] It's all part of this wider thing and it's like, I'm not finished yet, but so far it is like an absolute triumph that it's like, it's going as well as it is. Like it's so cool.


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[Assistant] A friend of mine already has the Platinum, says it's quite a nice one to get if that is your kind of thing. There are like a bunch of collectibles and stuff in there, but he says the Platinum's very, very nice to get, so.


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[Assistant] Deflate physically when I read it and that's Dragon Age Origins, it's been 13 years ago.


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[Assistant] Still, great. And hey, Dread Wolf, uh, is in alpha now. Or whatever they said they said the other day.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeaah, when you, when you go from, to, to, to, where, definitely.


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[Assistant] It took a while, I just felt like I was holding the button the whole time, you know? But, I did really enjoy the story, I'm super excited to see which Red Wolf goes, especially- I don't know if you played the Trespasser DLC, but that was sick, that was-


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[Assistant] I don't know how he would be in terms of like, I don't know if he would be down to clown.


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[Assistant] But I would fucking love to talk to Will Wright.


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[Assistant] Um, uh, actually in terms of like, uh, speaking of Bethesda, uh, Harvey Smith, um, Dinger, uh, Bacaba from, uh, from Arcane, I think would be great. Um, very chill.


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[Assistant] I, uhm, a lot of people were upset about Morden. I was very upset about, uhm, Grunt. Because I thought Grunt had died. And they really did, they really faked it out. They really faked it out.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I, cause actually in my first playthrough I saved Morden because I don't know how. Uhm, I didn't know he could die. Uhm, but no, the grunt thing in Mass Effect 3 when he's coming out from the Ragnar Queen for sure.


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[Assistant] Um, I would say as well, this is more of an unexplainable feeling because it's a mix of, like Ralph said about Out to Wild, like melancholy, joy.


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[Assistant] A deep, profound malaise and sadness, but also with a tinge of hope. Uh, there's a moment in Disco Elysium where Kim and a detective, I'm not going to spoil it because him not knowing his own name is a plot point. Um, but there's a point where they kind of just.


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[Assistant] Everything. Like that's, that's how it is for that game. It's everything. And uhm, yeaah. And actually, you know, our game of the year deliberations for 2019, there was the Disco Elysium people versus the Outer Wilds people, and it was just-


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[Assistant] I'm at Lucy James Games on, uh, everything. I'm a day job, I work at GameSpot and Giant Bomb.


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[Assistant] If you're giving 50 cent, 17 cartons of Domprion.


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[Assistant] I want the same thing


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[Assistant] That Blackface make him happen. Black is a good guy. He's a good writer. But to be sincere, he charged Two-Face those days. Blackface, we carry like two babes, entire room. He would discharge Two-Face, that no one Two-Face would make a talk. You help someone like Bonapoy say, nobody helped him in Nigeria. That's a stupid talk. Popular lecturer. Hi. When I saw him in the lab, recorded him and I was like, very old man, about 77.


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[Assistant] I didn't go to the next show, I just head up to the studio immediately.


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[Assistant] 50 Cent finally came with his crew, Young Borg, Lloyd Bank, all of them. And they woke up to me and was like, yo, you gotta get the fuck out of Das It, Das 50 Cent Sit.


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[Assistant] Excuse me? We don't speak fuck in Africa. I don't know what fuck is all about. My name is Idris Abdus Karim. I sold 4.6 million copies in a pirated country. Why don't you sit here and tell me how the American market works? I'm performing alongside with you. I was sleeping.


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[Assistant] And I was hearing of Asunjan saying that, I love songs like, if you push me, I go push you. I love songs like, it go better.


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[Assistant] Okay, so basically, uhm, I grew up in the north, you know, uhm, uh, I'm from a polygamy family, you know, and uhm,


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[Assistant] Well, my mom had uhm, ten boys and she lost eight of them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and uhm, so she basically had to take me to the nuts and start all over again. So I grew up with my mom, you know, helping her to sell, you know.


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[Assistant] I will help her to sell rice in the evening by the time I'm back. I will help her to attend to customer


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[Assistant] To sell pepper soup. She sells pepper soup. She sent me to school.


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[Assistant] You know, she's, she's my mom, she's my dad. I lost my dad when I was three, you know. So, growing up, I represented Kansas State as a table tennis player.


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[Assistant] Wow, uhm, I... So after school, I come back home like around two o'clock, cook egg.


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[Assistant] Wherever you see table tennis board, where they play table tennis, I go there.


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[Assistant] Because I know definitely that people will bet. And then go win, then go drop.


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[Assistant] You know, you will share egg for, you know, people. So basically, uhm, before the champions come to play, I'll use that opportunity, drop my egg, try play small. Basically, I was training myself. I didn't know.


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[Assistant] So when I bring my eggs, some people will be like, no, I bet on trial moilei to win you. And...


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[Assistant] And told my mom that she would like, he would like to invite me to come and play professional tennis at Kano Club, you know. So my mom said, okay, no problem. She agreed. So every after school, go back home, you know, take my bag and go to Kano Club, train for two hours, became very good professionally. So after two years,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I represented Colorado State, even represented Nigeria.


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[Assistant] No, 1985 as that's cadet players.


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[Assistant] Playing ping pong with Akeem Azan, Funke Oshinaike, um, Taufiki Maia, um, Bashir Abiono, Atanda Musa, Musa Atanda, Musa, you know, Bosse Kafu, great players, you know.


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[Assistant] So, went back to Kano. I became a star at a very early age. So, Kano State's sports council started paying me salary. You know. So, I got level 5 step 2.


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[Assistant] Uh, I'm a military person, I went to a military school, all my school from primary to secondary, then finished in Kaduna, NMS, you know. So uhm, one day my agriculture teacher,


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[Assistant] So I went to the soldiers club and for the first time I saw Nigerians actually rapping to a song.


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[Assistant] You know, I was, wait a minute, is this for real? How is this possible? You know, I was like, dang, I was like,


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[Assistant] I was carried away. I didn't know what was wrong with me at that moment. I was just carried away. So after the event, you know,


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[Assistant] I went to meet the guys, you know, introduce myself and ask them that whenever they are in Samongiri, they can come over, you know, to my mom's place and come and eat something, you know. So, couple of times they come around, you know, and uhm,


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[Assistant] I'll entertain them and uhm, I'll ask them, hey, how do you do this? So I get to find out that okay, they were actually rapping other people's songs on a beat, not their original songs.


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[Assistant] I write my own songs, so I started learning to pick up a pen and paper and started from somewhere.


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[Assistant] I didn't even give a damn whether I have the voice or not. I just started writing, you know. After six months, I saw a jukebox where you can fix a microphone.


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[Assistant] Play a cassette from here and record on the other one, you know, so.


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[Assistant] Whenever I sleep, I'm a very spiritual person, I don't joke with my prayers and fasting, you know. So whenever I sleep, I dream and God always show me things, you know. So basically, it's this gold microphone, you know, keep swinging, burning fire, keep swinging,


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[Assistant] Left and right, and whenever I wake up, I tell my mom that this is what I see all the time. This is what I see all the time. And she'll pray about it.


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[Assistant] One of my ustaz were, in the monks where I used to pray, told me that, uhm, God wants to use my voice to speak about a lot of things.


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[Assistant] You know, so then, I knew that.


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[Assistant] Ping pong table tennis was just a stepping stone for me that my real call was just to speak for the voice of the voiceless. You know, so, we used to have Dr. Fresh, we used to have LD Extra Large from Jaws.


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[Assistant] We still have Cosmo B, Mickey Freak, Special G.


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[Assistant] You want to do something, you know. You need to be hungry to be successful.


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[Assistant] You know, so, went to train 2, we call it Central Hotel, you know.


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[Assistant] So my first experience, Dr. Fresh was in the building that day. So they called me to come and perform.


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[Assistant] I went on stage and I was, I started performing and all of a sudden the music went off. And I was like, what happened?


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[Assistant] It wasn't up to five minutes, Dr. Fresh came back on stage to perform and everything was okay. I was like, okay.


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[Assistant] This is cool. So next time I came with my DJ and made sure that everything is intact, you know, so I performed. There was no interference or anything and it was beautiful. So a few months later, Dr. Fresh left for Abuja, you know, so I became a champion in the game in the North. So from there,


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[Assistant] I left to Abuja to go and look for Dr. Fresh. For me, I was always looking up to Dr. Fresh. Anywhere you go, they push you and they go there.


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[Assistant] You know, so my mom was like,


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[Assistant] In the next ten years, I don't know what would happen to you and I.


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[Assistant] Let me go and make something happen so I can take care of you.


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[Assistant] If you can't stay fucked up rich, you can't see the one where we say the roads they vary.


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[Assistant] It was crazy. So after five days got to Lagos. So dirty, you know. Didn't have a place to say, so I went to, uh, mile two on the bridge. You know. Then I felt like, no. Instead of mile two, go one of these island bridge.


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[Assistant] You could see a lot of undercar, the wakamewai. Those undercars now, who saw people they-


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[Assistant] So I went to CMS on that bridge. That was where I was staying for almost nine months.


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[Assistant] So I wake up, oh yes. So I wake up, I wake up around, uhm, around six in the morning, pray.


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[Assistant] Do my salad, look at my environment, you know.


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[Assistant] Whatever it is that will inspire me. I have pen and papers 24-7. I was writing, you know. So, when hold up done, jump out, you know, I'll just move and knock on any under car.


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[Assistant] The person opens the door. Before he says, hey, what do you want? I'll just start rapping.


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[Assistant] Okay, at this time I was about uhm, seventeen. Seventeen.


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[Assistant] Let me show you the map.


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[Assistant] See, we have to go back to Kano. I said, that's where I'm from. He said, yeah.


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[Assistant] Then we have to go back to Kano. Kano, we have to go to Niger. Niger, we have to reach Agadez. Agadez, we have to move straight to Duruku.


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[Assistant] And do look who we have here head up straight to Tamara's head. That's a boy.


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[Assistant] Go see my vulcano streets to Niger, Niger to Agadez.


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[Assistant] You know, go, embark on such journey. You must buy Garry, then buy sack, where you go take, put, you know, around your water, so the water no go fee dry because of the sun, you know, so then get a glass, you know, cover yourself because of the desert.


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[Assistant] 9-1-1. Okay, okay, okay. Trucks eh. Trucks. You know, plenty people from different parts of Africa are going to just come around, you know, then.


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[Assistant] I was watching him, then he opened the Quran, he was reading so fast. You know say, this guy know Quran. He was reading, he was reading, reading, reading. He would flip again, he would read, read, read, read. He was there for complete one hour.


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[Assistant] Then he stood up, he was like, he now took the sign, just took some from the sign.


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[Assistant] Just drum up, but if you catch me now, see, sound start to turn to...


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[Assistant] Then the sun just moved towards one direction.


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[Assistant] So people, let's go. I found the road. Let's go.


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[Assistant] No, so you don't go see anything now.


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[Assistant] Everywhere dark. But I was curious. I don't know. What didn't God tell me? He said I can just look outside.


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[Assistant] Let me just look. Oh boy, for midnight I carry my head at the sea skeleton.


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[Assistant] From far, eh? They run. Like say, it won't come, it won't come overtake.


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[Assistant] We think what happened, very dehydrated, what's even gonna happen? So, one Daniel boy like that, just come down, just piss on your hand.


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[Assistant] Survival of the fittest.


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[Assistant] It was crazy. We moved again to God be the glory. After 13 days, we reached Duruku. As we reached Duruku, hunger don't catch me tired now. I'm messed up. So there was this guy with one small shop. We just get like 12 bread, water, lip tint, milk, you know. We get small radio and they listen to


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[Assistant] Because, like, my goodness, what the hell is this? So meanwhile, now camps, you know, different camps.


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[Assistant] My greatest joy is that God always communicates with me.


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[Assistant] He says, walk around, you're going to see somebody you know. So I started walking around. Then all of a sudden, new 911 just land from Libya. As they just, they come down like this. And they look at your faces one by one. Now I see my coach. Table tennis coach.


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[Assistant] He say come, come, come, come, come, and carry to, uh, jerry can, you know. He say me can come, so I come follow him. Come go inside bush, come remove knife, come cut part of the jerry can, and come remove like $500, you know, come carry, uh, lighter.


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[Assistant] So I've been in Libya. I've been coaching there. But there has been problem, you know. So I had to leave. I'm going back to Nigeria. So this is not a route for you at all. I say, coach, if you make out with all this dollar with me, I will go too.


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[Assistant] So, there was this month where I used to pray. So I got there to pray. So after Maghrib, like seven o'clock, the Ustaz now said, hey, you, after Salama, they say you. God says, if you go to Libya, you'll make it, you'll be great. But God says, if you go back to Nigeria, you will travel all over the world.


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[Assistant] You'll be great, very, very great. You will help people if you go back to Nigeria.


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[Assistant] So I can't look, say, ah, what's the next thing to do?


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[Assistant] They are 30 minutes away from here. They are outsers. You speak outser to them, the plane comes, then you go to Nigeria.


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[Assistant] I said, okay, thank you. One week later, I just call me and say, hey, the plane is around. Let's go. Captain Umar Yaya.


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[Assistant] Yes. Did the same thing. Then, after nine months, God came to me and said, hey, it's time for you to leave this bridge. Now! And it was 6 a.m. The nurse mold were full on fight conduct or everything. Got to Alakbadu around 4.30 in the evening. There was this uncompleted building opposite Ray Power.


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[Assistant] Man, raw talent. He said, okay, you know what will happen? We have Chelsea Grand Slam show. Tonight. And, uh,


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, there are going to be other musicians that is Shoki, Dr. Fresh and other people.


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[Assistant] Then, in future, maybe you can go your separate ways, but start from somewhere. I said, bros, God bless you. Thank you, bros. He said, you don't chop. I said, no bros, I never chop. He said, come, come, go chop. Great soul. You know, so I went to the canteen, ate something, and he gave me money to go out and find something and wear. So, in the evening, I just come stand for the gates, made the boys not go, leave me go.


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[Assistant] Finally, the boss came out. I just stand for, you know, and the driver said, ah, where the, where the leg, you know. And Steve said, no, no, no, no, leave it, leave it, open, open for him. I said, ah, boss, thank you. So it was Yabatek.


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[Assistant] We didn't have the opportunity to perform. Then Steve said, let's go back to Repower. We went to Repower that, that, that morning. Then Steve took us to, uh, Benga, where? North Fresberg, Benga, where? Steve said, Benga, please, I beg. Let me find time, make you record these guys, even if not one song.


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[Assistant] Engbinga was like, do you guys have any songs we want to record? I say yes. I say the MC Light instrumental, please.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I don't write some things, but you go improvise me. You say yes. So that's how we recorded Chacomo.


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[Assistant] The next day, Eddie went back to town.


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[Assistant] I made it compulsory that he doesn't know me, but so anytime he comes, I wash his car, you know. So Steve now called and said, hey, Bobo, come, let me take you to the studio. I meet Sulazo. Sulazo will take you to Kenny or Dewan. If you see any one of them, tell them it's from Steve Cadry that I want them to listen to this song. Okay. I say, yes, sir. So went to the library and


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[Assistant] Baba Dewan came in. So immediately he came in. I prostrated. I said, Baba, good afternoon, Sir. Enough respect, Baba.


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[Assistant] I'm a great fan, Baba. Baba, please, God says you should listen to my song, even if


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[Assistant] You're not going to support me. Just tell me if I'm in the right track. I guess the one was not in the good mood that day. You know, so, you know, just look me, look Sulasu and that was it. Then Sulasu was like, I should leave the studio, so I left. While I was going, Spirit told me that, hey you, I've told you, you will make it in this Lagos, go back to the desert.


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[Assistant] I saw Papa Dewan bought, he was not in a good mood, you know, was like, okay, hold on, let's go back. So this time, Kenny and Dewan on the present already.


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[Assistant] So Steve was now waving at Kenny in the other recording studio. You know how to rap? Now waved. Kenny was like, was like yes, Kenny will be now left.


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[Assistant] Now open door of the other studio. I was next to Kenny Ogungbe. You know what he did?


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[Assistant] I was dirty, but he didn't give a fuck. He hugged me. The guy shook my hand, he hugged me. You good? I said, yes sir, thank you. He said, great, Steve, what can I do for you? You know I'm on air. He said, Baba, please, 40 seconds, please listen to this. Baba Kika was like...


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[Assistant] The 75% of Americans who've been playing. Wow! And that was it. He played that song 11 times that day. Hey! The next day, he played it more than 20 times. So while he was playing it, he now asked Steve to call me. So I now came. He was like, this is a beautiful song. He said, so what's your name? I said, actually, we are two. He said, oh boy, what's your name? I said, Mr. Remedy. He said, so can I call you guys The Remedies? I said, yes, sir.


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[Assistant] Right there, right there, God just answered our prayer.


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[Assistant] So the next day, Baba Keke came and he saw me washing this guy. He was like, ah, you've been the one washing this guy all this while? I said yes. He said come. Now took me to his office. He said sit down.


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[Assistant] We have image that say this uncompleted building right here. Say wow.


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[Assistant] Now call Bingawe. Is it Bingawe? You are not always around. Let Idli stay with you in that house.


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[Assistant] Bakeke gave me some money to go shopping, buy foodstuff and that. Two months later, the song was all over Nigeria. Bakeke now called me and Eddie. And I said, you guys should go to Eloring and go and perform. When you get to Eloring, come back. You have an appointment at Elizade Plaza. So we went to Eloring. That was where we met Tony Tetula.


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[Assistant] That was how Tony joined us. You know. So Tony joined us because we needed to record more songs.


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[Assistant] And the mom had money. So, and he won't sing Desperately by all means. So, okay, calm now. Let's do it. That was how we became three. So, when we came back, we now went to Elizabeth Plaza. Uhm, it was British Tobacco. B.A.T. B.A.T. So, I still remember the guy. He speaks outside to the white guy. Mr. Walter Thin. Something. So,


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[Assistant] That's better than anything.


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[Assistant] No, Rootman's Groove. Rootman's Groove!


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[Assistant] So you guys have to perform alongside with us. You plantation boys, you know. So uhm, we're willing to give you guys ten million dollars.


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[Assistant] I just look, bring our work because he followed us to negotiate. So I was like,


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[Assistant] Yo, Mr. Waterthing, we're gonna be on the road for approximately six months, and it's crazy.


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[Assistant] You know, we've got family to take care of, we've got a lot of things to do, so, we're proposing 25 million.


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[Assistant] He said, no, Idris, 25 million is too much and just remove one root mouse.


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[Assistant] He said okay, wait for me, I'll talk to my people. He went inside. Came back. After like 15 minutes.


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[Assistant] Sir Idris, so I spoke with my people, listen man, final, final, final, 20 million, as it be!


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[Assistant] I don't want yeaah. I don't even look benga face. Which year be this one? This, uhm, 2000... 1999. 20 million. 1999.


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[Assistant] So basically, they brought the money out from, uh,


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[Assistant] I think that they call them, from these, they are bank vaults, yeaah.


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[Assistant] And I said, where do you guys want to go to? I said, we don't even have an idea where we are going to already. He said, okay, I'll book a room for you guys at Chariton. Security will take the money with you guys. So security follows that money, you enter Chariton. Use the landline, call Baba Keke. Baba Keke came.


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[Assistant] No, I was like, congratulations guys, keep your head up. You know, I was like, no, see now, take what you want and give us what you said. No, no, no. It's your money.


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[Assistant] So you guys have inspired me. So today, I know what to do. I said, no papa, we insist. He said, you insist? He opened the bag. He removed 29. Wow. He can't carry a good pen. Sign. Kenny's music.


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[Assistant] So, Eddie and I appreciated Baba, you know, so he now told us how to share the money.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you take this, you take this, you take this. Tony, you take this, you take this.


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[Assistant] Mamanah! Mamanah!


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[Assistant] She was so happy, she cried, she hugged me and all that.


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[Assistant] For one, one year, four months.


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[Assistant] Was nine months under the bridge, then four months.


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[Assistant] With, uh, Bingo Awaken is, uh, Baba Keke at three-poor.


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[Assistant] So, we started the show and uhm, it was a beautiful event. It was lovely.


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[Assistant] The next day we headed to Kaduna, so I went to my mom, gave her two million from my money, opened an account and put the rest there. So went on tour.


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[Assistant] To Abuja, Abuja, Bauchi, Bauchi to go, Yola, Yola. Went all over. Then.


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[Assistant] Eddie, Eddie, me, you know.


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[Assistant] Tony Tetula. Anyways, Tony knew where he stands.


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[Assistant] You know, but immediately Eddie brought it up like, ah boy, what do they have now?


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[Assistant] They give Tony that, you know, human being will always be human being. I was like, ah, okay. You make a point there, Sha. I said, so wait till you do the thing. He said, no, man. We need to sit down and talk about these things. So I said, okay. So when I will come up for Eddie, please, I'll go meet Tony. Come on. Start writing your songs.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't have said no to Eddie. He wouldn't have not told Tony. It's called being diplomatic.


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[Assistant] Sure you understand what I'm saying. So I'm not gonna offend the two of them. Because they get interest.


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[Assistant] So, I will have to play a beautiful level game. So, I told Tony, very seriously, I'm talking about the next three months, you should be dropping a single.


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[Assistant] Was like, thank you very much. Then he started working with Plantation Boys secretly.


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[Assistant] He's telling the story, he's telling the story, basically, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since, since,


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[Assistant] Yes, you know, and that my, King Sonia, the old song, you know. So, and I know say Nigerians, they always pity the underdog.


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[Assistant] Take advantage of it.


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[Assistant] It don't happen. Let's do it. I say you and I, in future, we'll still go solo. Very, very soon.


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[Assistant] And he was like, okay cool, so what's next? I said yeaah, enter studio. Moku replies Tony. So we went to the studio and recorded.


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[Assistant] You know, so the next thing, you know,


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[Assistant] You know, so, after that, I told Eddie, yo, it's time to go solo. So, no, before then, Eddie said, oh, boy, come on. I said, what's up? He said, somebody want to give us 70 million. We could sign on that based on record label.


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[Assistant] I say, oh boy, whenever I will finish with waiting on your sign with Kenny.


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[Assistant] And guys, what's up? What's in the apple now? Why are you guys no more interested? You know?


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[Assistant] So Eddie was like, our song is not far in the air, our song is not far in the air, this, this, this, uh. So Idris, what about you? I said, Eddie, I'm sorry, bro. Baba, when I left, before I left Kano, my mom told me three things. She said, be prayerful.


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[Assistant] In the presence of Eddie, Kenny Sebrow, and his wife.


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[Assistant] So you don't prepare?


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[Assistant] It is what it is.


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[Assistant] They say, okay, no problem. No problem. No problem now. We will know who is the remedy now. I say, okay, no problem. You know. So, so that's how we went solo. My first song with Babakeke Drop was Wakawike MC.


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[Assistant] That's enough. In Yoruba language. Yeaah. And also, then, LaFace took offence, you know, Two-Face head swell. I said, Two-Face, don't let it get to your head.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for the end of the song, Two-Face on Let It Get To Your Head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. So they went solo and we all knew that Two-Face was, you know, but during the tour, I learned so many things, you know, I was talking about greed now.


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[Assistant] I learned so many things. One, I, I saw where blackface would chance to face like this.


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[Assistant] You know, Eddie, Idris, Anthony in one room, but


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[Assistant] So if you go block to face for maybe swimming pool, you just did yeaah.


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[Assistant] I said, don't worry, everything's gonna be okay. That's everything at time.


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[Assistant] Black is a good guy. He's a good writer. But to be sincere, he has to face those days.


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[Assistant] We all get mistakes. Everybody get their own mistakes we make. But we regret it. But you know, that's it. You know, 20 children, 20 for 20 years.


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[Assistant] So, Nick Tiff is just forget everything we don't have to. Calling brother, show him love. That's the way forward, and I will appreciate him for that.


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[Assistant] Okay, so, like I said, I was trained by the houses.


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[Assistant] I went to military school. I'm not scared of anybody. I like to speak the truth whether you like it or not. Whether it will affect me or not, I don't give a damn.


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[Assistant] My responsibility is to come. As he did. As he did. And not send you. So, like Fela says, Fela said, music is a, is, is to educate and reorientate, not just to entertain, you know. So, after I dropped my second album on Kennis Music, I went on tour, campus tour. So this time around it was,


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[Assistant] So, after the show we were just coming out, then I saw a girl.


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[Assistant] She was trying, I don't know what happened. Was she trying to cross the road or she was trying to get a cab? She was confused. She was looking like a mad person and she was just...


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[Assistant] I was always very observant about my environment. You know, so I now went to her. I said, what's going on? My name is Idris Abdulkareem. What's going on? Talk to me. Don't be scared. I know something is wrong. Something is not right. Are you going to talk to me? I said, come with me. It was somewhere around Abulia Oja. One restaurant there, we entered there. They bring drink home, eat. Said, my lecturer just gave me a deadline today that I should come to Susu Susu Hotel.


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[Assistant] I want to pass my paper. And uhm, I'm just confused. I don't know what to do. I can't tell my parents.


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[Assistant] I'm just confused. I said, really? I said, which hotel? She showed me the hotel. I said, okay, do me a favor. You go to the hotel.


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[Assistant] He said, yes. I said, okay, relax. I said, you see all these people, how many you think see them be? See they are like 16. He said, they are soldiers. See them with camera be. I said, don't worry. It will never disturb you again. Just relax. So I said, okay, so do you know which room is? He said, he said room eight. I said, okay, good. Go into the room. When you get to the room, pretend like you've locked the door and leave the door open.


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[Assistant] And make sure that you are not reluctant.


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[Assistant] Just play with him so he can take off his clothes and all that. Just leave the rest for me. So, five minutes later, the way my boys take, remove the door, eh?


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[Assistant] I promised the lecturer that I wasn't going to, after he promised that he was not going to disturb any girl again. So recorded him and I was like, very old man.


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[Assistant] He begged the girl. He said he would never harass any girl in that school anymore. So I said, okay.


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[Assistant] So go back to school, enjoy yourself, it's never gonna harass you again. And that was it. So immediately we left. I didn't go to the next show, I just head up to the studio immediately.


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[Assistant] So that was how the song came up. So immediately I was like,


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[Assistant] We used to chat.


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[Assistant] I want to tell you guys what happened to me and how Idris Abdukareem saved my life. I was like...


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[Assistant] You know, if you're disciplined and you don't sleep with people that works with you and you keep your head up,


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[Assistant] You won't have a problem in your life. I mean, Laura, I kid you walked with me.


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[Assistant] Bad ass rapper, like very serious girl will be saying she don't take rap jokes.


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[Assistant] She also wrote a couple of things about me while she was here with me.


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[Assistant] Babakeke was the best thing that ever happened to me. Babakeke is like a father to me.


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[Assistant] See, now is the time when you finally get there and you make all that money.


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[Assistant] That, okay, for the next two years, I'm gonna fast and pray for you to give me my own wife. May not give me another person's wife.


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[Assistant] And that happened and Mabakeke was my best man. And truly, God gave me my wife.


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[Assistant] Because without my wife, maybe I would have died because she gave me a kidney to live again.


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[Assistant] There's spirituality about everything about my life. God gave reason for me. For the second chance he gave me. There's plenty of things that's going to happen. I'm talking about, I'm talking about how it affects environment and Nigeria as a whole, Africa as a whole.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's, I mean, I still remember when doctors say your two kidney is gone and the best thing you need to do is a transplant. And right there, my wife was like, can I donate my kidney?


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[Assistant] I cannot lose this man, he's a great man.


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[Assistant] That was how God used my wife to give me second chance. Great woman.


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[Assistant] She told me that we will go in, we will come out and everything will be perfect. It says so say God.


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[Assistant] They woke her up around 7 o'clock, took her to the theater around 8 o'clock, you know, remove one of her kidneys and came to call me immediately, took me to the theater, yeaah, and fixed the kidney in me.


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[Assistant] So I know say God love me. I know say God get a lot of plans for me. And I am grateful, extremely grateful to her and I will appreciate her for the rest of my life. So five hours later, I woke up with pains. So the first thing I was like, where's my wife? Where's my wife? Where's my wife? They say she's fine. She's in the ICU.


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[Assistant] Don't worry, you go and see her, she's fine. So they took me, I was like, how do I fight? You okay? Say, I'm very fine.


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[Assistant] Was emotional. Was extremely emotional.


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[Assistant] Five hours later. Shout out to Dr. Bamboe. Thank you, Dr. Bamboe. I love you so much.


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[Assistant] You know, thank you so much and thank you for the India Sanjuan that came all the way from India.


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[Assistant] Dr. Adela Janko, I appreciate you so much. Thank you so much.


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[Assistant] Like three times in a week. You know, met some people there that they're still looking for donors at ten years. A guy that I met during my dialysis finally got a donor after seven years. Then the, uh, the transplant was supposed to be a week and he died. Jesus Christ. After getting a donor.


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[Assistant] I was going to emphasize that.


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[Assistant] That's why I always appreciate Baba Keke. That's why I always appreciate Baba Keke. And I'll continue to do that.


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[Assistant] You need to have a relationship one-on-one with God. If you have a relationship one-on-one with God, He will communicate with you. He has different ways to communicate. Through dreams, through body language, signs.


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[Assistant] And you need to understand those things. And how do you understand those things? You need to build it gradually.


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[Assistant] By starting to fast every Monday and Thursday.


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[Assistant] And that Monday and Thursday, you are talking to God like, it was like, you created me naked, God. You created me naked for a reason.


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[Assistant] Then you also now.


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[Assistant] Ask him, you propose that these are the things that I want you to do for me because you are the one that can do everything. You say ask and it shall be given.


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[Assistant] I want you to give me my own wife I don't want you to give me somebody else's wife.


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[Assistant] Monday and Thursdays for the next three years with no woman. No sex.


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[Assistant] So after three years, I can do whatever I want to do. But that three years must complete.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I was going for my video shoot. Then...


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[Assistant] Around Kenny's, ehm, primetime office.


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[Assistant] So, you know that one in a way you could take and take away. I'm not to just spoil.


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[Assistant] That was the first thing you said to her? To her, yes. She just smiled and said, you're very funny. You're very, very funny. I said, I'm very, very serious. So I knew the guy that was with her was her brother. I woke up to her. I said, guy, how you do? You know me now? He said, yes. I said, give me your number. I flashed him immediately. I saved the number. The next day I called him. I said, guy, send me your address.


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[Assistant] I just wanted to go to her house. I came. I went inside. I wasn't scared. I greeted the father, I greeted the mom, you know. She was shocked. She said, I didn't invite you. I said, I'm so sorry. I just wanted to come. I said, I know I messed up but I'm very, very sorry.


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[Assistant] So please forgive me. So I left then for complete three months.


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[Assistant] You know, I was chatting at home. Talking stage. You know. I swear. Going to Unilag.


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[Assistant] You know, she was, she read Mass Call Me, and like, you know, doing all the necessary things I'm supposed to do. You know. We got married after five months.


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[Assistant] Wow. We didn't, no courtship or fa- straight up. Whoa.


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[Assistant] You grew in the marriage.


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[Assistant] Great human being. God sent. Me, I just believe say, that God sent that girl between me.


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[Assistant] Because, God knows a man a good woman.


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[Assistant] She replaced my mama for me with another good woman. So she's my mother.


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[Assistant] That's when you have to be careful. That's when you need to maintain yourself. I mean, this is my 21 years in marriage with her.


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[Assistant] No. No, no, no, no, no. Because, because I don't like giving eh. We're all human beings. I travel, I see women. I see beautiful women. But how do you avoid them? Because I don't want, I don't want my children to go through what I went through. In the polyglot.


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[Assistant] You cannot love two women at the same time. It's not possible. And guess what?


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[Assistant] Two women, two women will always be jealous that they are in your life because they don't know which one you love best. They can never know.


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[Assistant] At the end of the day, when you grow up, you die finish, these children will start to defy themselves.


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[Assistant] Uh, Mr. Lecturer was everywhere and, uhm, approximately


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[Assistant] We headed to Athens for five days, Greece. Then from Greece to Egypt. Then when we were in Egypt, we were having lunch and Dora King only told me,


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[Assistant] For you to be here. I said my song Mr. Lecture Hour was talking about sexual...


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[Assistant] Arrasment encompasses our lecturers. They say, oh, I know that song. They say, wow.


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[Assistant] So wow, wow, I'm proud of you. These are the kind of inspirational songs that we want in our society. Listen, if you want anything in this country, just let me know. I'll always be there for you. Same thing with Professor Batu told me, you know, we appreciate you. Just keep your head up and keep being you. I say, okay, thank you, sir. The next day, Dora Kim really passed the torch to Shegwondegbami. Shegwondegbami, I guess, passed the torch to Pele. Pele.


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[Assistant] That was too emotional for me. That's, that's him saying that you're now an authority. Go out and speak more.


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[Assistant] Went back to the hotel. After everything, went back to Nigeria. I did Allah Allah and prayed. I said, God, show me what's going on. What should I talk about now with everything that is happening? I slept and I saw it. You know, I was playing. You know, and it came. On the sand, just saw it.


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[Assistant] I didn't see the end, I was writing it, but it was jaga, jaga. I woke up immediately.


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[Assistant] So I recorded it.


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[Assistant] Went straight up to your bedside. Six feet now you down.


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[Assistant] So I'll say, oh, thank you God. So I called Chris Okoro immediately and we went to the studio and we dropped Jaga Jaga.


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[Assistant] You know, assisted by Soso Beat. It's another great producer.


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[Assistant] Yes. So, I took the song immediately to Kenny Ugungbe. He was like, damn, I did. This is a crazy song, man. It's gonna cause plenty problem. But this is the fact. But I have to play it because it's the reality. So there's nothing like being diplomatic about it. There's nothing to change. It's going on radio right now. And Kenny Ugungbe promoted Jaga Jaga and Jaga Jaga was everywhere.


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[Assistant] Three weeks later, I was sleeping.


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[Assistant] I love songs like, if you push me, I go push you. I love songs like, it go better.


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[Assistant] And the president took me straight to another level. I was extremely happy.


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[Assistant] Three months later, Obasanjo gathered his governors and they were going to Europe to look for foreign investors. My friend, German ambassador, called me and said,


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[Assistant] I said, great, I'd love to do that. You know, so, entire Europe, you know, I've seen your article of notes, everybody, and to perform for us right now is one of the Olympic touch bearer, ladies and gentlemen, Idris Abdulkareem.


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[Assistant] Nice to meet you.


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[Assistant] So the song hit the president. I make the song vain the president.


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[Assistant] However, today, Obasanjo himself is the chief campaigner of Jaga Jaga, and has been vindicated. How many letters has he not written?


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[Assistant] And they believe you. And they still say your word now you're born. Yes. They go there with you forever. I see they enjoy my relationship with Baba Keke.


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[Assistant] The plane was, for the plane saga, it was the second day.


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[Assistant] A day before that time, that was the first show at TBS. So we were backstage and 50 Cent and his crew came.


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[Assistant] Say, you gotta get out of the, get the, get the fuck out of the backstage. It's 50 Sanders coming. I say, what? So what?


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[Assistant] I said, listen man, you get the fuck out of my face. He said, he can't ask the organizer. I said, who the fuck are these people? Nine, one of the organizers, Tadi, can't rush, go meet him. He said, ah, leave him. There's no way I can cause trouble.


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[Assistant] So they escaped that night.


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[Assistant] So, 50 Cent went on stage. I remember that day they shared umbrella. So 50 Cent went on stage.


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[Assistant] Reality check. Geez.


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[Assistant] So they were ripping, they were beating people.


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[Assistant] My agreement with Nigerian Bureaus is listen, whatever you are giving 50 cent, that's what you are giving Idris. If you are giving 50 cent, 17 cartons of Domprion.


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[Assistant] Crystal, I want the same thing. If you are giving him 17 bibs, give me 17 bibs.


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[Assistant] If you are giving him an executive suit in any hotel, I won't make my room the opposite of your room. Because I know someone will need me. Wyclef just left. And I know that business is what they do. You are making more markets.


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[Assistant] How can you sell your product without our music?


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[Assistant] So, the next day, got to the airport, went to my business class Saturday.


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[Assistant] And I woke up to me, I was like, yo, you gotta get the fuck out of that shit, that's 50 cents shit.


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[Assistant] Excuse me? We don't speak fuck in Africa. I don't know what fuck is all about.


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[Assistant] Direct marketing.


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[Assistant] So instead of him to tell 50 Cent to tell


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[Assistant] So 50 Cent and the school wanted to feel like gangsters. So the walk came back to me and said,


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[Assistant] So my boys, they economic lass, next to me, they come back, you know, come attack 50 cent crew.


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[Assistant] Now jam the plane. Make the heat to catch everybody.


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[Assistant] All my, my two boys, I don't call them, they don't block everywhere. Nobody, they go anywhere. Moldware don't block everywhere. Imagine saying Moldware come airport, come back. What do Moldware they do for airport? So old drop was everywhere. The next person that called me was inspector, uhm, uhm, commissioner of, uh, uh, police, Lagos, MD Abubakar.


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[Assistant] Then, to God be the glory, you can find them online. DJT, you remember DJT?


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[Assistant] So, immediately Charlie Boy came.


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[Assistant] The JT just came to tell me that, Idris, all the recording day here now, I'll give it to the PMAN president so that I go free fight you, alright? And the biggest mistake I do for my life be that.


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[Assistant] Uh, the recording.


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[Assistant] Because I didn't know. I felt like, ha, a wolf.


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[Assistant] So, immediately he collected the tape, just woke up to Udumegu. That's the MD of Nigerian Lewis. He said, finally, it's going all over the world. That's what it is, the day inside this tape.


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[Assistant] That was how he negotiated with Odumogu and blacklisted me. The bastard blacklisted me.


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[Assistant] It sold me out. How you gonna take no?


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[Assistant] Three days later, Charlie Boy was arrested by Nigerian Bureaus Odumegwu.


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[Assistant] Because the deal didn't go through. The negotiation didn't go through.


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[Assistant] Took him straight to Abuja. Did he ever tell you guys that when he came here?


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[Assistant] He was arrested because the tape was with him. He wanted to expose Nigerian bureaus.


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[Assistant] But he has changed it with money. But it was not enough for him. He wanted more.


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[Assistant] When he had, when he planned with, uh, what's his name? Dejade Yonju.


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[Assistant] When he plaid with DJ, I didn't want you to protest and, um,


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[Assistant] Look for DJT on Instagram. Even if DJT no more.


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[Assistant] He didn't call me. The next day, he called everybody. He now called everybody. He said, ahem, so, uh, we are here today to talk about Idrissa Abdukarim. And I want you all to know that from this moment, he has been banned. Meanwhile, before the meeting starts, the person where they worked with him for more than 25 years, his name is Mike Pam. You're known as the Dreadlock Raster.


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[Assistant] Nkarifon call me, he say, Idris, where you there? I hope you are not far from.


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[Assistant] So tell me why you go do that kind of thing.


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[Assistant] Now you need to give me a microphone. Nah, yeaah, I'm talking everything. I said the tape deal with Amo. And I'm not saying not take the tape, negotiate.


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[Assistant] Charlie Boy, three weeks later, went to Alaba to close down all shops for Alaba. All those pirate boys. Pirates.


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[Assistant] My friend, my palm, the rasta guy, come go back to Alaba, they check whether the eh, pirates don't open shop again or waiting. 90 pirate guys come and they laugh and say, look at you.


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[Assistant] So when that happened, I was like, damn, I've been blacklisted.


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[Assistant] Alhamdulillah, most importantly, I've done what I'm supposed to do. From today on, Nigerian artists will be respected and will be given the respect that is due, even though I sacrificed my career.


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[Assistant] No! Of course.


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[Assistant] The matter don't reach president. Please. President, call Inspector General Police. Inspector General Police. Go Commissioner of Police. For Lagos. MD Abu Bakar.


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[Assistant] So why they not arrest me?


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[Assistant] Go and watch Young Bug video.


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[Assistant] Say, if I was in this position and the 50 cent was in this position, it would do the same.


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[Assistant] But it was a beautiful sacrifice that gave birth to Davido, Bonaboy, Whiskey and everybody today.


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[Assistant] The same business class. Now they are flying their own private jet now.


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[Assistant] Because you see, if you don't fight for your industry, nobody would fight for you. Unfortunately, most of them don't appreciate it. And I don't give a damn.


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[Assistant] For me, what is more important is that I've done what God asked me to do.


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[Assistant] And if they don't I don't give a damn.


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[Assistant] It's like you saying that, it's like, it's like, it's like, you hear someone like Bona Boy say nobody helped him in Nigeria. Would you have been a star without some people starting a revolution?


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[Assistant] You wouldn't have been where you are if we didn't make this industry what it is.


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[Assistant] If we didn't fight for it.


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[Assistant] Who else? Please tell me. Who is conscious? Please give me one.


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[Assistant] That's what we're talking about now. That's what we're talking about. That's consciousness.


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[Assistant] When dollar is 1,500. Buari took it. Good luck. Jonathan left it 198.


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[Assistant] So the boost got recorded into 1,600. As from today's was 1,590. That's 600. It's going to 2,000. So how do you want common people to survive in this country?


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[Assistant] Because people are suffering.


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[Assistant] Even the Yorubas that are shouting the Milokmo, the Milokmo up and down, they are the one way hungry, they fight, they kill up and down now. See, when was the last time you heard I'm batify? Is on your mandate that I stand.


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[Assistant] And, uh, she came up and said that,


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[Assistant] Everybody don't cost me time, because I stand for Teno Buce, and I'll mandate a day. You see, I know that you'll mandate again, oh.


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[Assistant] Some of them, I even see my head look like, like yash. Eh, who was saying it? Say that the yabam, the yabam gone.


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[Assistant] Muhammed Ali found his root in Africa. Rumble in a jungle. I swear the king is humble.


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[Assistant] Jesse Jackson, O.J. Simpson, this is Black History. Andrew Young, visit Africa in the late 60s.


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[Assistant] Legend, Bob Marley make the light different. Martin Luther King and Marco makes the big names. They fought for black Americans in the old days. Winning the same revolution in their own ways. Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Mr. Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre and Eddie Murphy. American prosperity, incomplete with African poverty. Peace.


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[Assistant] The McRib is, uh, the slum of breakfast. No, lunch food.


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[Assistant] No, that's the thing, especially in the UK as well, you grow up with a lot of like mystery meat pies, you just don't question it.


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[Assistant] Hey, we had the whole horse meat scandal, so you know, could literally be anything. Uh, hi everyone, welcome to another episode of the Mystery Meat Podcast.


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[Assistant] Uh, friends for a second. Uh, I'm Lizzie, I'm hosting this week and joining me is Gerard.


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[Assistant] I dunno. And rounding out the fort, we've got Ralph, hi Mae!


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[Assistant] I don't want to use the term crunch, but it's me basically going, okay, what, what did I miss from my list that I have to get through, um, before our deadline in a couple weeks. So that's, that's my life right now. Oh no, I have to play games. Yeah, no, I get that.


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[Assistant] Great link. So later on in the show, we are joined by Josh Sawyer, who is the director of Pentaman, among other things like Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2, Fallout New Vegas, some games that you might have heard of. We had a really great chat, and he is intimidatingly clever. Yeah, he's cool.


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[Assistant] He was fascinating to talk to, and the passion for that.


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[Assistant] Uh, that game really comes through and a bunch of us are playing it, but we will obviously talk about it.


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[Assistant] Later now boys, it is getting towards the end of the year, which can only mean one thing. The Jeffs are coming.


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[Assistant] The Jeffreys, uhm, gonna watch, you can watch me in IMAX this year. Uh, I'm talking of course about the Game Awards. Nominations were released and as usual.


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[Assistant] Boiled pisses, you know, someone's furious. The piss is boiled. And it has been the case with some of the category, some of the nominations for this year's Game Awards. Thought we'd go through them, chat a little bit about the categories and


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[Assistant] See how we're feeling about him. So, do you want to start with the big boy with game of the year? Because I feel like this is a pretty... The one thing...


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[Assistant] They added touch controls now. There is no escape. They added touch controls.


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[Assistant] It can stream it, it can, yeah, it's ruined me. Uhm, but what are we thinking about this one?


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[Assistant] And you think, what's the biggest omission do you reckon, other than vampires?


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[Assistant] So, Elden Ring, God of War Ragnarok, Horizon Forbidden West, Immortality, and Stray. I mean, there's only five of those, okay. Is there only game of the year that gets six, maybe?


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[Assistant] It's sound says a thousand sounds.


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[Assistant] It's missing the X factor for me, because...


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[Assistant] They're enjoyable, but I always felt that they played safe. I never felt that, like,


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[Assistant] Story or even gameplay was doing anything that wasn't not necessarily designed by committee but designed to be as, uhm, inoffensive also sounds horrible.


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[Assistant] I just feel like it's a very safe game. It's safe. And I think the character of Aloy is safe. I think that, you know, what they have you do is safe. And I feel like when it came to Forbidden West,


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[Assistant] And I'm, I'm heavily weighted on Elden Ring and God of War Ragnarok. I loved the first Plague Tale and I will be playing Requiem, that is my game to do after Pentament. Uhm, but I hear fantastic things about that one.


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[Assistant] It doesn't necessarily add up to me, and I think Ralph, what you said about this being like, the blockbuster, and that's the one from Sony, and there was a big campaign about it, and it's like, uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeah, it doesn't necessarily fit for me. That doesn't mean the game doesn't have merit. It doesn't. And it obviously still has its fans. Uhm, I enjoy it. I played like,


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[Assistant] 50 to 75% of it, but I wouldn't say that it has stuck with me, and just like in 2017 when Breath of the Wild came along, I think it's because it was eclipsed by a...


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[Assistant] Ah, young Michael Zacchi with Elden Ring.


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[Assistant] Well we'll keep going, we'll keep going down the uh, the categories. I think, I think immortality is a great shout for game direction and I think it is, like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then you've got Best Narrative, so Immortality Nominated again, Plague Tale Requiem, Eldering, God of War, Ragnarok, and Horizon, Forbidden West in that one too.


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[Assistant] And the Elden Ring one has boiled some piss.


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[Assistant] Have you fucking seen a Vaati video? Uh, uh, like, takedown of this lore? Like, I think there's plenty of interesting stuff in there.


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[Assistant] A really interesting take on what we perceive as storytelling in the medium.


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[Assistant] The breadcrumbs, the signposting, uh, not pioneer, but certainly, like, popularized and you get a lot of people.


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[Assistant] Imitating what FromSoft do with their narratives, and I think it's just...


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[Assistant] I kind of like it sometimes when stuff isn't spelled out for me explicitly. You know, it's like, it's like the, um, the Jaws thing. It's like your imagination is way scarier than anything you could see on screen. And just like with Elden Ring and other FromSoft stuff, you can just fill in the gaps. Um, and then you get Miyazaki come over and tell you you did it wrong.


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[Assistant] I would really love that as well, just like using the platform to obviously, they obviously celebrate game developers and games that are made, but like to kind of champion the difference.


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[Assistant] Disciplines that go into creating them would be really cool.


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[Assistant] What a callback. But yea, that would be really, that would be great. Jeff, if you're watching, or I guess we'll tell you in person.


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[Assistant] Uh, so yeaah, we're very excited about all that, uh, I can't wait, I can't wait to see like the levels of Hungover would be as well. Just post Game Awards doing podcasts.


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[Assistant] But we'll also have, uh, other, other awards, uh, to talk about. So there's, uh, best score and music. So, Plague Tale Requiem.


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[Assistant] Uh, best performance, so Ashley Birch from Horizon Midwest, Aloy, Charlotte McBurney, Plague Tale Requiem, Amicia, uh, Christopher Judge, God of War Ragnarok, uh, obviously Kratos, Manon Gage, Immortality, is she the main person? And Sunny Suljik, God of War Ragnarok, playing Atreus. I will say,


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[Assistant] I think Christopher Judgeon and Sunny Seljik did an amazing job in God of War Ragnarok. However, I will say Danielle aka Freya should have been in here. She crushed in that game. There are certain scenes, and I'm not going to mention them in case folks are still playing up, but there were some scenes where I was like, damn, okay, yeah, she's going for it.


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[Assistant] I would say like, even some of the folks from Elden Ring, like, uhm...


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[Assistant] I wonder what Ralph is gonna pick. I mean, I actually wouldn't say Destiny 2 this year, but don't get me wrong.


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[Assistant] So Apex, Destiny 2, Final Fantasy XIV, Fortnite and Genshin Impact.


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[Assistant] So uh, things are going great over there. Uh, no, it's uh, it's been a bit of a challenging launch.


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[Assistant] But it's still a great game. Okay, the Overwatch Defender has logged off. Uh, Best Indie. Now this is probably my favorite category because I think it has such a great mix. So Cult of the Lamb, Neon White, Sifu, Stray, and Tune It.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I think, I think that's a pretty great, I, I'm really glad to see more nods for Neon White, just cause I forgot the stranglehold that game had on me, but also like Giant Bomb.


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[Assistant] Uh, all of us were playing, we had like this big Invitational where we had Nex Landeron and Alex Boniello. Tony Award winning Alex Boniello.


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[Assistant] It was weirdly incredible at that game. Uhm, but no, it was, I...


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[Assistant] I'm kind of getting like the primary recency bias of like games that I played at the beginning of the year and then games that I played recently. So I'm trying not to forget the stuff that kind of came out in the middle.


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[Assistant] Uh, best debut indie, so we've kind of been through half of these. Neon White, Norco, Stray, Tunic, and Vampire Survivors. Norco is one that's on my list, like I have it.


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[Assistant] I have heard nothing but good things about it. I just haven't had a minute to, to boot it up.


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[Assistant] That's mobile. I would love, I would love to present an award. I think I would do a really good like, voice for it.


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[Assistant] Please welcome to the stage, from 343 Industries, Bonnie Ross. That was like my Xbox voice that I would do.


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[Assistant] I... I'm kind of surprised with Best Mobile because I play a lot of like, Apple Arcade stuff.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and not to see, and to see none of those on there, except, it was Tower of Fantasy App Arcade, I forget, but like.


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[Assistant] Because there's After the Fall, Among Us VR, Bone Lab, Moss Book 2, and Red Matter 2.


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[Assistant] Uh, best action, Bayonetta 3, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2.


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[Assistant] Best action adventure? Plague Tale Requiem, God of War Ragnarok, Horizon Forbidden West, Stray, and Tune It.


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[Assistant] Yep, best roleplaying. Elden Ring, live, live alive? Yep. Live alive. Uh, Pokemon Legends. Arceus. Arceus. Arceus. Arceus. Arceus.


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[Assistant] Triangle strategy, forgot that came out this year.


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[Assistant] Uh, best fighting, we've got DNF Duel.


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[Assistant] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure All-Star Battle R, a game that I can't play because of spoilers, but still, that's- I- I love it. Uhm, The King of Fighters 15, multiverses, and Sifu.


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[Assistant] Action Adventure is where I could have seen it, but yea, it's a strange inclusion in this one. I mean, yea, I don't know. An interesting one.


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[Assistant] Best Family, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Mathful Mode, LEGO Star Wars The Skywalker Saga, Mario Plus Rapid Sparks of Hope, Nintendo Switch Sports and Splatoon 3. That's a good category, man.


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[Assistant] Best sim slash strategy, Dune Spice Wars, Mario Plus Rapid Sparks of Hope, Total War Warhammer 3, Two Point Campus, and Victoria 3.


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[Assistant] Good stuff. Yeah, that was, I played a lot of, uh, two-point campuses, yeah, I thought that was a very fun one. Very British.


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[Assistant] We'll just take the piss off like British jokes. I'm pretty sure there was like a Boaty McBoatface kind of thing in there as well. Like they really went for it.


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[Assistant] So funny. I can't remember who it was, but yea, you could vote on the name of something and Boaty McBoatface just...


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[Assistant] Love it. Uh, best sports slash racing.


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[Assistant] Best multiplayer, so Modern Warfare 2, multiverses, Overwatch 2!


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[Assistant] Most anticipated, Final Fantasy XVI, Hogwarts Legacy, Resident Evil 4, Starfield, The Legend of Zelda, Tears of the Kingdom.


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[Assistant] You know, death trending came to Game Pass. So, you know. Baddest content right there.


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[Assistant] Arcane, League of Legends, Cyberpunk, Edgerunners, The Cuphead Show, Sonic the Hedgehog 2, and Uncharted.


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[Assistant] Did you guys see the trailer for the Dragon Age show, by the way?


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[Assistant] But I know what happens! I know what happens, I didn't spoil it for me, so I was like, ugh, guess I'll...


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[Assistant] Alright, well, like we said, we will be at the Game Awards, we'll be at the TGA's. Follow us on Instagram, by the way, and Twitter, because we'll post pictures instead.


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[Assistant] They wouldn't say that stuff to your face. Uhm, alright.


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[Assistant] But, Jaron, you have a video about it. Ralph, you got a video about it. Uhm, so please, I- Jake does too, as well. And Jake, you got one too?


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[Assistant] No, but I think that was actually a very nice chat, like as someone who has no stakes in Sonic, it was really nice to hear you all talk about it from like, such different viewpoints.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's, uh, move along then. So as we mentioned up top, we are joined, uh, this week in our little interview section, uh, by Josh Sawyer. So he's the director of Pentament, which we will be talking about more


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[Assistant] After this segment, cause a bunch of us are playing it right now and really enjoying it, uh, we chatted with him about like, just how this game got made, cause on paper,


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[Assistant] It's a bit of a weird one, but it seems to have really paid off, so here is our interview with Josh.


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[Assistant] Alright everyone, as promised, we are now joined by Josh Sawyer, Director of Pentament. Josh, thank you so much for joining us. It is the day- Thank you for having me.


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[Assistant] After launch, so how are you feeling? Does this part of the process get any easier?


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[Assistant] Uhm, so when, I mean, like, let's talk about Pentament itself, I mean, how long have you been kind of conceptualizing and thinking about even making this one?


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[Assistant] What parts started to fall into place first? You mentioned like quite a lot of things that have become, you know, a huge part of Pentament, but what were the initial building blocks that you kind of worked on and built on?