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[Assistant] If you think about it too, a lot of, uh, um, the problem with a lot of other places is by comparison where they're just going to lose is they're either generally either binary or, or just a, like a monopoly essentially. Like, you know, Somerset Isles completely under the control of the Aldmeri Dominion.


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[Assistant] It kind of feels the same, even like if it's not under the Aldmeri Dominion, there's just lots of tribes and stuff. Maybe that would be cool. But like, uhm...


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[Assistant] You know, if you were elsewhere, elsewhere got like cut into two kingdoms where you've sort of got north versus south. In Morrowind, you've got, I'm sorry, in Skyrim, you've got like east versus west or Stormcloak versus Empire, whatever, but basically conservative versus progressive. Exact same thing with Hammerfell, you've got crowns and forebears. It's just sort of the one or two, whereas in,


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[Assistant] In, uh, Morrowind, you've immediately got five different things, all Viper Power, and then within them, they've got their own conflicts, and then you've got the temple as well.


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[Assistant] And then obviously because of the setting, you have the empire's interests or stuff coming in as well. And it just this big intermixture of stuff. So. And the sixth house. Yeah, exactly. All kinds of stuff.


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[Assistant] Well I guess, let's uh, we can touch on the sixth house a bit, which is...


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[Assistant] More or less, like, originally House Dagoth was, was back when Dagoth, uh, was around with Nerevar and stuff at the time. Like, he was just another house, of the kind of house. But, obviously, as he was...


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[Assistant] Either killed because he was a baddie or betrayed or there's all the variations of Battle at Red Mountain, but basically he became sort of like the shaman Dagotha, the false dreamer.


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[Assistant] But basically the Sixth House from that point onward sort of became a cult dedicated. The way that you could frame it, you know how we were using the biblical thing before?


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[Assistant] That's kind of what the Sixth House is to the Dunmer people. It's like, do you know what I mean? That's the kind of vibe, like all pentagrams and stuff like that. Like that's the kind of vibes it gives them. And that's kind of what they are.


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[Assistant] Obviously, uhm, when Dagotha is sort of returning in more so full power during the time.


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[Assistant] of the third era, uh, the sixth house is, um, expanding a lot and they're smuggling like these sort of


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[Assistant] Ash statues and stuff to, and getting into people's dreams and spreading his basically like his blight and his influence and stuff like that. But to be honest, they are kind of the baddie devil Satan cult house, but they weren't originally. It's just because their leader is the Shabbat.


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[Assistant] Well, what it is, is when you go into Elder Scrolls, so the, uhm, you know how the Elder Scrolls has music and stuff visualizing on it, you know, there's a tonal up.


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[Assistant] Everything's a song. Yeah, and the tonal architecture and the form and all of these things are sort of like musical oriented. So it's sort of talking about the fabric of universe as musical. You'll see the earliest sort of ash zombie minions. They're like eye caves in kind of thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it's like a reverse, the sleepers, it's like the reverse, um, enlightenment kind of, kind of thing, which is kind of on theme with, with the Sharmat, which is the idea that he is, he's like, he dreams that he is real from the dreams that he's like awake in the dream. This is all.


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[Assistant] Very contrived and hard to get around, but it's basically that he, uhm,


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[Assistant] He's in the dream sleeve dreaming himself into existence. He's like awake in the dream sleeve, whereas usually it's the reverse. That might be, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because like, what's crazy about those guys is that like the Tribunal Gods and all the Battle of Red Mountain and Dagoth Ur is that you can continuously change your understanding and think more and more and more about it and like different stuff. It's so uhm.


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[Assistant] I like that. Sounds cool. That is definitely mad. I, uhm, I don't know, uh, we- you can touch us house sadras, but there's basically nothing to say outside of it's mention that they replace house lalu.


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[Assistant] Uhm, also, I guess, uh, we should bring this up, and we've kind of brought it up a few other times in smaller parts, but how the sort of house politics interacts. So the idea was in Khmer times.


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[Assistant] Uhm, pre-tribunal that, well, actually even a bit earlier, but basically the idea was that there was all these houses that were in All Out.


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[Assistant] It is a weird too, and I feel like it also like keeps them in uhm, uh, in more so like, it creates a power balance by having this sort of powerful assassin's third party that you can use to


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[Assistant] House Redran, the one with a lot of military might and, and, and, um, a lot of power has sort of become the very dominant house of Morrowind and sort of leading because there is no check and balance to, um, Redran's power anymore. So, um.


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[Assistant] Interesting, uh, reasoning for it. Don't know if I'd want to live in a society where the morangtong can show off my door and stab me, but... Yeah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, people keep asking why not, like, we'll get to it. There's a lot that we keep putting off because there's a few more like...


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[Assistant] Not even simple, uh, there's a few more like, simply complex topics that we can talk about that aren't


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'd be down to go through them. I think it'd be fun. And then we can do, you know, the shaman six house kind of stuff, kind of stuff.


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[Assistant] What is up ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Fudge Muppet, I'm Scott here with Michael and Drew as always for the Elder Scrolls Podcast and today we have a special episode for you, we have


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[Assistant] All in all, you may know him from creating the Pelinal animation. That's where I first found him. Uh, he's made a whole bunch of other Elder Scrolls animations. I actually voiced in one of them. Um, but yeah, introduce yourself. It's me. Nice. Is that an effect?


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[Assistant] Cause we've got, we've got the overhaul on and one of the overhauls redos the voice and makes it seem a little bit more demonic. But then the original voice that you're hearing like that, like, like Dagoth wave stuff and so on, like that's the real OG one.


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[Assistant] But see Vivek, Vivek sounds cool, like he has that like echo thing like you were doing before. But like, when then you come to Daygother and he just sounds like a- I was going for this.


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[Assistant] And it's so punishing, like if you go back, you've got to, you've got to know what you're doing it or you take a really long time to figure it out. But you know, you go out into the wild and there's like a little kwama worm thing and it just kills you. It just takes you down like it's like,


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[Assistant] Cause like, we, we, like our, our first, uhm, first game was Oblivion, so starting with Oblivion, and then I tried to go back to Morrowind a few times, like I actually thought it was so cool, like the world, I remember like getting it in the bargain bin basically, and, and playing it, but I really didn't, uhm, I, I just couldn't like,


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[Assistant] Because it- because we accept it because in Oblivion they were just like, you know, human cat people or lizard people, but like back in the day they were far more beast-like. Yeah. Couldn't wear shoes. Back in those ancient days. It- it's- it's something that you talked- And even has some helms.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause then it's more meaningful to pick a Khajiit over a Dark Elf or something like that and then it feels like you're roleplaying that race versus just... Well my first experience was...


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[Assistant] Uhm, the, uh, Nazi Old Republic. Oh yeaah. As well as Star Wars Nazi Old Republic. Go on. And, uhm, yeaah, Jedi Academy and stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel like you can't, you don't have, I mean, some people say you would have to be careful with spoilers for like, it's like, you know, nearly 20 years ago. I think you're good. But I mean, I never played it.


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[Assistant] I reckon, I reckon it could go down well, to be honest. There's still like people that like, and I feel like it would.


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[Assistant] And the animations would just look sick, like Star Wars animated.


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[Assistant] Do you know what it reminds me of? Like when I was like, uh, about around like 10 or 11 or something like that. And I'm like first like kind of getting on my mom's computer and using YouTube.


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[Assistant] Oh dude, Revenge of the Sith, that, that whole final fight scene, it's never been- Yes, perfect. Like, I think like in any fight scene ever, like the whole, um, Obi-Wan vs Anakin, and the music- I am, I am a fan of it.


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[Assistant] I was going to say, I like, like I know how the original trilogy does have it, have it sort of like, it's a, I think like a better overall kind of structure. But if you said, if you said to me though, you got to watch anything, any Star Wars movie one right now, I'd pick Revenge of the Sith every time. It is a subjective favorite.


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[Assistant] New Hope, man, the first Star Wars movie ever, I'm so over it, I never want to watch it again. I know it sounds like, heretical to people, but like, I just, it's like, I could actually just take a slight, I could probably watch Empire Strikes Back and like, maybe the final scene of Return of the Jedi or something, cause that final fight's pretty cool, but like, and it's got like emotion and stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, when he comes out of the shadows to strike him after Darth Vader's like, tempting him into it. But this is the perfect segue into, uh, your career in music. You could like, yeah. Music career. Well, you could let people off like, cause you were telling me that you've been doing...


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[Assistant] You've been telling me you've been doing music for a while, cause you didn't, the animation is a more recent thing, but the music is what I was talking about.


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[Assistant] That's pretty crazy. I think that's like, like the, like, I don't know what your first stuff looked like, like two years ago, but like your animation.


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[Assistant] But for sure, I can imagine like being paid as a job and using the skill in that job will make it go a hundred times faster just because it's like,


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[Assistant] You know, if you say, if you're like an aspiring writer or something and you want to like practice writing, it's very easy to rationalize. Well, oh, I'll do that. But whereas if it's like someone is paying you to get this thing written, you go, oh damn, I've got to get this written. So then it forces you, it puts you in a, it's just the right, like a lining of incentives.


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[Assistant] But sometimes like, you know, they say like, like limitations, like breeds, like creativity and stuff, like, cause you got to work within limitations. So you have to, you know, you have creative workarounds and stuff, but like, I feel like it's a nice animation style. Cause like even with.


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[Assistant] Like, cause it's a, you know, a little bit abstract and so on, like it looks a little bit, and that kind of helps it be like, uh, cross-medium, if that makes sense? Like, not medium, sorry, like Elder Scrolls or, or Star Wars or whatever. You could do all of those things in a similar style, but it's still like a uniquely like, your trademark kind of.


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[Assistant] Especially that like first scene with like Ellen when walking out and stuff and when you get close and the ironing. Yeaah, I was really like going all out.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Like, like, even with Pelinal, like I think even when you do, like, cause there's parts where you've obviously like detailed it more and then there's the in between movement shots and so on. But like, I don't know, I kind of like it as a stylistic choice how it goes like a little bit more simple and less detailed in between the fast motions and then, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] It's like, you know, like it's that thing too, where you like kind of get to the animations and so on, but I'd much rather have longer sort of, you know, more, more of an animation without it being this super hyper detailed, but then it could only be 10 seconds. It's so hyper detailed.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well you can use the hyper-detailed scenes, like sort of like you do in- in between, like at points of stills and so on. But if you- if you watch-


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[Assistant] Anyway, with like, um, the animations and so on, like, and, and I guess this sort of applies to like movies and all kinds of stuff is that you're like kind of.


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[Assistant] You know, part might look like crude. It doesn't matter if it's, if it's, you know, supported by everything else that's going on. And he's a perfect segue like things like the sound and music, which I know, you know, like we've mentioned, you're really into it, but all of your animations pretty much all of all music, all music by, uh, yeah.


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[Assistant] Cause I like, I, I forgot all, um, I forgot all about him at way back in the day. Like when Michael and I were even making like the, our like ideal Elder Scrolls 6, like, so we were like mapping out what we'd want to be ideal. We, I think we even mentioned like, oh, we want Morrowind shorts to do the voice, you know, like that kind of like voices like that. Like, so you could imagine the Dunmer voice. Cause like, I think it was Jeff Baker, the original.


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[Assistant] But we wanted those voices to come back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like that's the coolest thing about like Elder Scrolls, I think anyway, is what I really like about it, is it's like real world mythology in the way that it's, it's


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[Assistant] It's like interpreted a lot, you know what I mean? Like it's like, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] You know, it gives you that sense of the mythic. It feels like I was a big mythology kid.


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[Assistant] So I was really into all your Greek gods and your Norse gods and I'd read about anything mythology. I just want like big books and stuff of just, you know, I have like little encyclopedia things of mythology and stuff in general. So I loved listening about the heroes and all that kind of stuff too. And then really getting into the Elder Scrolls. It's sort of like a similar thing. Like there's not many other games that have the same sort of emphasis on the mythology of it all. I don't think.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's also, like, people say there's not games, but Lord of the Rings.


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[Assistant] But uhm, Lord of the Rings has like a, but even that, the way I'd say it, it's not really, as far as I'm aware, it's not like interpretable as much as it is. It's like, oh, he's gospel, like he's the Bible essentially, rather than it being like a piecemeal sort of thing. Dude, don't open the door box.


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[Assistant] It's like that whole video, the Elder Scrolls universe greatest, like every like second comment is like, oh, I love it a lot, but Lord of the Rings takes the cake from me.


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[Assistant] And that's what makes it, that's what makes it like interesting to engage with the world too, because it's not. Interactive elements. It can be like, oh, he's like indisputable. It's what you are doing. Yeah. Basically. It's what you do.


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[Assistant] But mods definitely do, like, like, I think they're a really cool part because it's like, you can kind of, like, fix the games and make them more like,


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[Assistant] There was just one really simple mod that I really liked. I forgot the name of it, but it basically changes Skyrim, so it turns Morthal into a proper marsh with like sort of no trees and so on. It makes Falkreath trees really, really big, but then a lot, it takes away a lot of the trees from the northern...


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[Assistant] World of Warcraft. Like, not that Skyrim does it too badly, but like, some of them, like, you know, the steel armor kinda looks a little bit modern. It looks like the, you know, chassis of a car. Like, fused.


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[Assistant] I was going to say, like, there's interesting, a lot of people, like, who are, so, for, you know, the whole idea that, that, uh, Kirkbride's coder pushes forth anyways, that it's, that Elder Scrolls should be treated as a more, sort of, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more,


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[Assistant] Like, uh, like, you know how like Shakespeare has its, its, you know, billions of different retellings and so on that, you know, changes things up. Um, but it's all drawing from a sort of core source. But like the idea, even if you look at it, it's like roots as a tabletop game. Like when you get a tabletop game, if you're saying like, here's Glorantha, you're playing it.


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[Assistant] You're allowed to make changes cause like there's no one here like, you know, saying, no, you can't, you know, you can't make this role playing decision or you can't like, you know, twist this God a little bit and change this little bits around here. So it's kind of like the idea is.


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[Assistant] It was just sort of a, here's the, the, the set, and then you go off with it. In a similar way, it's sort of like, you know, oh, here's Morrowind, here's the set, now you go off with it, and then sort of like, you know, obviously with the actual video game, there's like, all kinds of limitations to that, but just the sort of- But you see where it can limit-


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[Assistant] Sorry, I was just gonna say this loops back to uhm, like what you were saying about animation. It's like it goes super high in detail and everything, and then they, you know, have to make a short sort of thing. Same deal with this, they go super, super high budget, every, all of these cinematic angles and all of these cool movie moments, but then they have to like, you know,


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[Assistant] I, I think I, I think I mentioned to you when this episode would be out, it's like, I think February 7th or 8th or something.


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[Assistant] And that, and I- Yeah, what's the main reason for that?


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[Assistant] And uh, and I sort of forgot about you mentioning that.


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[Assistant] I'm sure many people have like, like, people have been watching your animations and so on, that's something that's sort of changed with the, after the Pelinal one with the Evangelion one, uhm. Yeah, yeah. That it sort of started kind of building an overarching story.


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[Assistant] Like between the animations, like, you know, to die as well, like it all sort of builds on this sort of, you know, these similar, this bowl cut character. It does, but we just go, I don't understand.


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[Assistant] We haven't even got that set up.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, I was, I was just saying that like, it's a overarching story, it's different. It's like a different, like kind of, cause all of your other ones were pretty isolated, like, you know, self-enclosed, whereas now you're trying to build like a, like a longer. Like, like, uh, like those.


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[Assistant] It's like about the inter- Yea, you the robot. Well that's like, you know, we interpret like the lore and try and build the story from what, like the pieces in the same way that like, you know, you can kind of build upon it and interpret your own way, you know, and in your one- Okay.


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[Assistant] You've made this podcast probably the longest. Maybe like the ranking day. We had a bunch of shorter ones.


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[Assistant] Like gotta be in a position where you can keep on doing it. Like you can be, you know, you can go through phases where you, where you sort of like going at it from that sort of business mindset and you're doing, um, you know, so whatever work and all the views are there and it's great and you're like, yeah, this is awesome and so on. But then if the views disappear, then you're completely uninspired and just, you know,


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[Assistant] What a way to maybe a final note for the podcast surfing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I think this is the end of the podcast. An hour and 45 minutes. Yeah, that's a big one.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no, no, it's fine. People, people like you'll see in the comments, they'll be like next week, the week after this one releases, they'll be like, oh, we want to, we want a longer podcast and we'll be bringing them a 45 minute one and they'll be disappointed. We're going to go link. Who's this?


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's the, the drillmaster for the Fighters Guild in Morrowind.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he does talk about the, uh, the egg of time a bit. I cannot read and write Dwarven myself, but that is a tr- but this is a truly interesting find. Uhm, he's talking about, you know the egg of time, this book.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's probably it. Let's move to elf sightings, which, um, could be a variety of things. It kind of makes me think about, um, the contradictions between the ideas of like Topol the pilot navigating around Tamriel and not seeing like elves.


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[Assistant] But then other reports of elves having been in certain places at that time.


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[Assistant] You think they would say so, but could it have something to do with the sea elves and how people have claimed to have, you know, spotted them and doing different things? I know they're in Elder Scrolls Online, but.


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[Assistant] That's the thing. It could be applied to so many things. Yeah. All right. Sea gods. Um, I guess this is kind of like the absence of sea gods.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I know, um, our favorite man Kirkbride was saying how he didn't actually, um, he was like kind of like, oh, I should have put sea gods in there and kind of was like kicking himself for not doing it.


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[Assistant] The last war, which I think is just a reference to kind of like the end of the kalpa and the start of a new one and some big final battle, but if you look


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[Assistant] I'm gonna do a control F last. Okay, here we go. Mysterious Akavir.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the Red Guards destroyed Yakuta so they could make their journey. All men in Myrrh know Tamriel is the nexus of creation, where the last war will happen, where the gods unmade Lorkhan and left their adamantine tower of secrets. Who knows what the Akaviri think of Tamriel, but ask yourself why have they tried to invade it three times or more?


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[Assistant] Is this like, like what we have on earth? Like the idea of continents moving around and having-


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[Assistant] I guess we can move on to gods, our imaginary. This is a very primary school take.


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[Assistant] But it's kind of also contradictory as well because-


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[Assistant] I don't know, there are just some gods in Daedra that would have kind of so few worshippers but still exist and would have, you know, power more than any mortal would have.


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[Assistant] But it does, there are differences in cultures with Daedra, like the Khajiits look at Daedra versus other cultures, so it gets confusing. I just feel like, you know, Peria would exist regardless of worship. That might just be like a bias that I have, and it is, he is sustained by worship, but it just feels like they can exist.


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[Assistant] Even when I typed it in, I've just come to some archive of our own dot org. And it's like, that's the only thing that I can see.


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[Assistant] The maraud, yeaah. Hold on, is it spelt wrong? Cause sometimes this iceberg meme spells things wrong.


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[Assistant] So, if I go Aran, a Renault Telecom.


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[Assistant] Okay, hold on, this is like a European carnivorous big beast thing. Uhm, okay.


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[Assistant] Okay, so spell it how they spelt it, but put an E after A-R, like Aaronatelecon.


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[Assistant] Well, how about we move on to tigers equals dragons? And I mean, the first thing that I know we had tigers equals quahs before, but, uh, this makes me think of like Toshraka, um, and the Capitan, like the leader of the tiger dragons of Capitan.


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[Assistant] It could be just how he became like this dragon. And everything involved with that.


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[Assistant] Okay, I love this one, this one's hilarious. Maybe. When he yelled out his name. It was heard.


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[Assistant] Elder Scrolls Skyrim Orc. Let's all look at some top


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[Assistant] We can make this stuff work. Alright, well, we've got an exciting one coming up after the next one, but the next one is Reachman Anarcho Primitivism.


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[Assistant] I found the definition of anarcho-primitivism, if you want, also known as angrim.


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[Assistant] Is a political ideology that is a direct critique of the development of civilization. So basically takes issue with shifting to agriculture from hunter gatherer, um, which has led to all these different problems and they wanna, they argue that to return to the hunter gatherer lifestyle, um, would be better.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I have no idea. Even, I mean, you guys should really be typing this stuff with Elder Scrolls, like, as part of the search term. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point.


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[Assistant] Could it be like previous kalpar as well? Like, like they were the dragons of the old kalpar.


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[Assistant] The part that kind of brings it to the final finish.


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[Assistant] Well, let's, let's move on to Alicia created dragons. Uhm, I know she created the new Pantheon and kind of Akatosh. Uhm, by forming, you know, multiple concepts together.


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[Assistant] Did she create Akatosh? It gets complicated because they'll say like, you know, this god spoke to this person but then was created later.


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[Assistant] Alright, chair stacking slash furniture speaks.


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[Assistant] The chairs, the tables, all confused. Is this the quote you just read?


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[Assistant] I just found it. I'm not sure if it's-


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[Assistant] Worship Old Maris, which you could kind of use as this idea that Old Maris is real in my mind, it's similar to that, like if Tamriel is Old Maris and it's just a memory of their past, but worship being the idea that they kind of glorify it and therefore it's real, but in their head. Right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like maybe quantum doesn't need to be there and it's kind of exactly what we talked about on the Akatosh podcast. You know?


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[Assistant] Speaking of which, the second Pocket Guide to the Empire, this was created by Kirkbride, I think. Like, just a second one filled with out-of-game lore.


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[Assistant] We did for a second. I lost everyone for a second. Me too. Everyone's still recording. I'm still recording. Yea, just check you're all recording.


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[Assistant] Is it numanthius or is it numinatus? I mean they, they, what is that?


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[Assistant] Professor Numinatus is either a coder or uncoder.


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[Assistant] Lizard people. Oh, so it's legit. After you playing it, after you playing it down Scott, I think Scott from fudge Muppets a lizard man too. We should add that one.


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[Assistant] I mean, I-I-I don't believe it, but I guess this is the idea that the leader of the Sea Elves who was banished to Pyandonea, uhm, well I guess the leader of the Sea Elves, he is now, but uhm, that he destroyed all of us. Isn't he kind of like him?


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[Assistant] A person. What, like the grey fox or something? How it's been lots of different people?


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[Assistant] It could be, but they talk about the leader having this, I'm sure they could pick it on emotional attributes, but like this, you know, this revenge and this hate and like all this, this toxic energy towards the, like, Altmer people, so.


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[Assistant] I thought it was kind of like acknowledgement as well of Kirkbride's writing.


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[Assistant] I can't tell what it's meant to be, but there's a picture of someone holding up a massive orb that's lit up and a flying thing. I don't know if it's a cliff racer, but keeping it away.


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[Assistant] Okay, the next thing after Skylamps is... Almalexia Underking connection.


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[Assistant] Almalexia and the Underking having like some sort of connection there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause I'm on a, I'm on a lore talk section of the wiki. And people are saying like,


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[Assistant] And then someone's saying, where does the Kier Joe quote come from? And then someone's saying, um, turns out Douglas Goodall posted an early entry of Where Were You When the Dragon Broke on the forums. And the Geet's entry was by the author Kier Joe instead of whoever it is in the final version.


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[Assistant] Maybe it's a Sayasee that did some vampiric stuff on a Kiki. It's like a hybrid.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Well, how about Amaranth, Anon, Anu?


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[Assistant] Amaranth, a non, a new, AEI, which is said to have occupied the passageways of heaven and earth because everyone above and below asks Amaranth, a non, a new AEI if they cannot find the passage.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess it's just transcending by taking a lot of skooma, right?


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[Assistant] Just Kim, Kim and Skuma. Is it? And you'll just be watching a music video of characters from Morrowind photoshopped onto Power Rangers and other things with music.


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[Assistant] I'm feeling pretty fried. I don't know about you three.


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[Assistant] That's what I thought of Lake Arius caverns from Oblivion where the Mythic Dawn are. And they're quite the fiery people, aren't they?


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[Assistant] By the way, the thing about Vivec killing Tiber Septim is in a, like, kind of talked about in a thing called Partial Interview with Vivec on the Imperial Library. So, yeaah. Okay. So there's like some out of canon basis for the idea.


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[Assistant] It's pathetic, isn't it? You just get the number you want to say, and then you add something to it, and then say this less this. So if you want to say 15, you say the 17 less 2. And it's like, woah.


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[Assistant] Anyway, we move on to Thalmor Time Control. I don't know about you, but it just reminds me of this whole idea we talked about once with the mirror logicians fighting the Numidium through time. Uhm, and that kind of stuff. I mean, you could apply it to other things. Imagine using


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[Assistant] I don't know if it would be possible to use time control to make the moons disappear or come back. But uhm, what do you think? Any examples?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but then it's kinda like a lot of games, like I mean you look at Fallout 4 for example, we know 100% like the institute has the power to do all this stuff and there's constant things in the game where you just think, why didn't you teleport? Why didn't you just do this and then teleport here and then win? Do you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Like there's always gonna be the why didn't Gandalf use his magic to do xyz kind of take.


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[Assistant] Actually, I can think of an example from the ultimate heist quest where you use the hourglass, uhm, in the imperial palace basement to open up an entrance to the old way, uhm, which allows you to get passage through the sewers and then steal, ultimately steal an elder scroll.


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[Assistant] And that's unique, that's with the glass of time and it makes you wonder how do they use that to.


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[Assistant] Or how could that be used for other purposes? Is it just to open this one escape thing for empress to use in the sewers? Or can you actually mess with time in it in a more targeted way?


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[Assistant] Like nobody knows what that is and why that's there. It's next to the massively oversized club and the gigantic chair and the hourglass.


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[Assistant] I'm just reading a thing here where it's like what is the exact egg cracking and then it seems like a Michael Kirkbride answer, the hist version of the new man, rather the way they would do it.


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[Assistant] Right. Anyway, uhm, I think we can move on to, uh, the Wilderland or the Wilderland.


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[Assistant] Now that I think of it, sorry to interrupt you, but if you were to make a video on the sermons of Vivec, like, how long is that video going to be?


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[Assistant] Uhm, or like, very interpreted.


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[Assistant] It's based on something that's in law, but then there's interpretations that come from outside of it.


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[Assistant] There it is. The lost twill is written twice.


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[Assistant] I'm just trying to find the exact source of that. Oh yea, hold on.


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[Assistant] Thringy and the Crimson Ship, uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. There's some pocket card stuff here, but also in the carton blue.


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[Assistant] So it left the shores of Black Marsh in the second era, 563, only to be turned back at every point, and then after a year they reached Hammerfell, uhm, and with no one to shelter them, they sailed west to the Abyssin Sea.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the book Pirates of the Abyssian tells the tale of the discovery of the ship found adrift by a group of pirates. Oh, it's entire crew dead.


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[Assistant] The tale appears to be fictional though, as no official records exist that confirm the discovery of the ship, so I guess it's like, did they find it all dead or did it just keep going and where did they go? A Khajiit beggar claimed to have been on the ship that encountered the vessel during his service in the Imperial army.


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[Assistant] Memorialize it as the uhm, day of shame. Nobody leaves their house, for it is told the crimson ship will return on this day. Okay.


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[Assistant] Elder Scrolls 6 quest. That's what that is. Yep. It's coming. It is. Storming of the Citadel.


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[Assistant] Like the citadels of the sixth house is another thing. Like, you know, citadel is a word used around the place.


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[Assistant] Well, I guess so. He won't translate the plans about it and seems-


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[Assistant] Can you imagine if the person who made this iceberg meme is just watching this laughing their head off at us because half of the stuff they wrote's not even real? How about that?


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, okay, I can see a thing to a Kirkbride post somewhere. Hold on.


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[Assistant] I mean, there's a lot of theories about the bird people, but I think that's what this one would be referring to. Or that they at least took on a whole bunch of their, yea, or took on a whole bunch of their, like, motifs and stuff. Oh yea, you see a lot of birds. Yea.


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[Assistant] I mean you meet aliens in Elder Scrolls for Oblivion as well, in that same ultimate heist quest I was talking about where you go back in time.


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[Assistant] The statues, yeaah, there's two statues after you use the arrow of extrication to open one of the doors. Oh yeaah, yeaah. It's like an arrow with a literal key on the head. Aren't they just statues though? They're statues, but they come to life and they're called like alyd something and they, these statues, very tall elven figures in elven armor, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're called Alid guardians, but they were really big, like they're taller than you, they're like kind of set scale. I thought that was just like-


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[Assistant] I mean, they're shaped like... Who knows, eh?


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[Assistant] You know, oh for sure. You know if uhm, you know the statue you get in Oblivion in Bruma?


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[Assistant] That like for being the champion and everything and they build a statue of you and whatever you were wearing at the time. So if you were wearing no clothes but a helmet with a staff, that's what it'll be. You can actually use console commands to select it and press kill.


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[Assistant] And it will like fall down like a body just covered in statue texture. And then you can use the staff of worms to reanimate it. And it comes back and it's super big except it's no longer a statue. And uhm, it speaks as well. And it's like say lines to you and be this gigantic standing person.


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[Assistant] Guys, I just can't help but move on to the next one, because we have the best one on the list, which I've just lost because this list is so crazy, but I think I can say off my heart, Khajiit lactate genetic memory.


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[Assistant] Please note that I personally haven't a clue as to the discussion that took place here. In reading the following, you may notice a few passages written by 82Crodo. I was just like a- a- member?


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[Assistant] I don't know. It's a bit, uh, oh, 82 croto. Yeah, it seems to be a form.


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[Assistant] 82 Crota Office of Provincial Studies, Alanol.


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[Assistant] And on that same list, I can remember, I think Bosma the S is silent. It was like Boma or something.


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[Assistant] He said that they retconned some things out of existence, eh?


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[Assistant] We can move to Atmora Old Maris Inversion.


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[Assistant] Wait, but it says died, oh at. At, yeah. So it's like saying they're the same, it's like saying I've never seen Drew and Batman in the same room before. I have.


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[Assistant] It does sound familiar. It kind of reminded me of the scroll of a dump file, like some random thing that has some obscure source and that's it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well you need rocket, like you need something pointy to pierce the veil and create, you know, star-shaped holes.


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[Assistant] So, I don't really see any relevant. So, Gartok was, um, mentioned in the 36 sermons. Um, yeaah. So, I'm just looking. The hand of Padmai. And the hands.


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[Assistant] He's weapon looking at it now. Uhm, anyway, let's get back on track and do Moth Eaters. Mmm.


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[Assistant] We've got another Verseduche theory here. Another, uh, Xeronarchus is Verseduche.


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[Assistant] So I don't know, the king's gotta cough. The king's cough and the hyperlink to it, uhm, which is just a hyperlink, but it leads you to the thorn. Thorn.


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[Assistant] Oh man, that sound of you opening a drink has me so jealous right now. I really wanna, I can't, I've been locked in for the final run. This is mass effect. Bro, I have so many drinks.


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[Assistant] I mean, here's a post on Tesla. Could the catalyst, hero slash prisoner, and possible point all be the same thing?


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[Assistant] Or am I going insane? That's, that's that. Alright, yes. How about no?


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[Assistant] The hero of Kvatch is Pelinal Whitestrake, what do you think about that?


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[Assistant] Oh, of course, the other kin. Uhm, obviously it's a coda thing. Uhm, Akavia says to the other kin, get out. That's what I found.


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[Assistant] Must include other kin. Okay. Compilation of all lore regarding Akavie.


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[Assistant] Otherkin seems to be a name given to those who are not Capotan, but may also allude to humans who take on cultural aspects of animals, like barbarian in Greek. Uhm, Tosh Rocker demands that the Otherkin sail to Tamriel and perhaps even further west to Yakuta and take their own religions with them because they sully the name of the dragons. It's just out of, out of canon stuff.


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[Assistant] I thought I found a good link that would explain it and I click it and it just took me to someone posting the iceberg meme on a random forum somewhere. In the middle of nowhere.


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[Assistant] I mean they did build some pretty crazy impressive things, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, true. Like a Daedra is pretty much an alien, isn't it? Like something from another realm.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Izmir with Pelinal, Arn and the Fox equated with Xur and Arctus was listed beside Izmir and Pelinal in the discussion on the dragon break.


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[Assistant] Uhm, will Farth and Talos share the title he's being with Perlin or Arn and the Fox equated with Xurana?


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[Assistant] I think it's Zuranachtus. Also called Arn and the Fox and the Undekeen.


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[Assistant] Tell. Us. Virus. As in iOS operating system. I guess it could be the con- I'm pretty sure it's fanfic stuff, but the idea that it's like the way he functions is like a virus, like putting his, um, code into other people throughout history and making, um, pretty sh-


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[Assistant] I mean, that's just someone's take. And yeaah. Does that bring us to the end of this picture?


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[Assistant] I guess that could relate to that Draco Chrysalis thing like gaining dragon aspects.


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[Assistant] Oh, this is, this is where people speculate that the Dwemer actually had a god.


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[Assistant] Um, and then there's this kind of like altar, um, with Dwemer architecture. And people think that Scrib or Srib is some kind of deity, but they don't know. Yeah, I think there's a, there's a bunch, bunch of skeletons there. But it looks kind of like, people suspect.


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[Assistant] Oh, hold on, there's the temple. Oh. It's a rib. Is it a large Shadama settlement? Is it the same thing?


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[Assistant] I'm opening it, and it's very long, so I'm gonna control.


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[Assistant] Okay, what about crackers? Oh, okay. Cracked? Are those cracked? But not crackers. Riemann. Okay, oh! Oh.


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[Assistant] Let's just say, you know, the Syradil calm thing that, um, he did that on some people as they fell and after years of training in the


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[Assistant] Sibla shoot. He could do this without hands.


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[Assistant] The Shonia's excerpts for anyone wanting to read that. Yeah.


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[Assistant] There's a post here, someone's asking, what's the deal with the Dwemer and them purposefully, um, purposefully misinterpreting things? Uhm.


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[Assistant] Like what? What would they have, as in like gods and stuff?


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[Assistant] But they don't misinterpret, do they? Isn't it just like they just don't care?


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[Assistant] It's very vague and ambiguous, I don't know. Let's move on to the digitals.


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[Assistant] There is the cherim tapestries, the emperor himself owns ten cherim tapestries, uhm, because cherim, this is a,


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[Assistant] I guess a vault of secret elder scrolls or something. I don't think that this is true because I used toggle clipping to fly all around inside there for my quest and I didn't see anything. Although, do you know what was really weird? I'll tell you something.


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[Assistant] Well, you do, and this really messed with me. I was in the Imperial Palace and I basically left from some really


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[Assistant] And then I realized it was a fire. And then when I finally ran into it, it was the fire in the room where the Elder Scrolls presented to you when you're pretending to be Celia Cameron.


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[Assistant] But that room is connected to like some other one, like they're in the same black space, just really, really far away.


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[Assistant] Well, well Scott, could I just ask you, do you know what Nords Intercalpic League World Eaters means? Because that sounds like the next iteration of Power Rangers.


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[Assistant] Uh, nah, come on. They're just so different. There's so many times in Elder Scrolls history where they've had interactions with one another and, unless they were what? Chima that went underground. Nah, it's just nah. How about I'm just Chima.


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[Assistant] I mean, why would they want that? Because they don't want the kalpa to end and Alduin to fulfill his process and they want to do it their way by destroying all the towers.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I mean they created Tamriel as we- I mean they messed with the timelines as we know it and did some stuff.


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[Assistant] Yes, and also out of game, uh, out of license or whatever. Uhm, so the seal was survived by his cosmic daughter memory, who he himself gave birth to. That's all I can see.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Toddhead. This is the idea that Todd Howard is the dreamer, right? Or the Godhead.


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[Assistant] Todd Howard is someone who I think is probably underrated at this stage. Cause people kind of just see him as the, just the face of it and nothing much else.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm just reading, I'm watching a let's play of going to the Mantell and Crocs.


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[Assistant] I found one obscure reference and it's on like warosu.org. It's like full, just forum thread of people roleplaying and someone says, ignorant churl, I fling my shit at thee.


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[Assistant] I also found someone on linkedin called AlmaRogue. That was my first result.


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[Assistant] Alright, Manny Macintosh. Uhm, there-


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[Assistant] We should get that lore master on the podcast and grill him about pronunciation of things.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like this space team. And it's like, right?


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[Assistant] The next one kinda sounds like a pasta or something. Romanelli. Uh, Romanelli.


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[Assistant] Doesn't make any sense. The blind god. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Uh, future games in the room at the beginning of the introduction, there's a bookshelf containing titles of past and future games in the Elder Scrolls series, the first to our arena in Daggerfall. Then there's Morrowind, Oblivion, uh, and Romanelli. So like that was one of those names. Oh, that's right. Yeah. At the start of Redguard, right? It does that cinematic. Yeah. Okay. Right. Okay. Next.


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[Assistant] I found a creepy pasta thing. Oh, true. I found some creepy pasta. Uhm. I found one.


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[Assistant] It keeps mentioning it. Is it this list? Nah, it's not. But yeah, there's something that keeps saying, watch the sky in this gravelly voice. And obviously I'm not going to read the whole thing. It's like 10 pages long or something.


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[Assistant] Okay, alright, alright, your house is safe now. That looks like the kind of thing that pops up on the- That's from the 36 Lessons.


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[Assistant] Oh gosh, I'm literally now, I'm on some PDF file that's like, looks like a movie script, like, you know, the way it's written in that form.


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[Assistant] The confession of Bomakuro143 went from script to final edit, but it was never broadcast for various political reasons. The series has been lauded as the finest culmination of Hyoulti's nonsense in the Tamriel's, and one that Yggdast in dash E dash dash dash despite harsh crit- harsh criticism from other quarters.


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[Assistant] TCI was otherwise a darling among its audience both at home and in the armchair critiques of the Somerside liberal blogosphere. Okay.


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[Assistant] Oh, this is the, yeah, this is what I'm talking about with athletic, um, mathematics or whatever it was called before. Um, he wrote out a mathematical formula, which proved correct. And Kenna Waffle-Thomason vaporized on the spot. There you go. Maths magic.


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[Assistant] 22. You gotta type Elder Scrolls with that or you'll get all kinds of things. Okay. Uhm, King Edward Book 11. Presently Akatosh said, I favor the name Section 22. What? Hold on.


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[Assistant] Okay, this, so this is from a text that is in Daggerfall, King Edward Book 11.


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[Assistant] And there's a line here that says, uhm, it's about Mo-Morelin interrupted with great drama. Surely you don't mean to imply that an elf can be overly stubborn. And the discussion dissolved into a period of laughter and teasing amongst the group. Presently, Akatosh said, I favor the name Section 22.


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[Assistant] Beach stared at him. Akatosh, I see what thou dost mean about thy difficulties with the poetic, if you will allow my frank opinion. That is the single worst village name I have ever heard.


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[Assistant] There, there you go. Mudcrabs run the world economy though, did you know?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm just getting mud crab merchant stuff. Let's pass on it.


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[Assistant] Nothing's- Yeah, it seems like a septum dynasty kind of weird unspecified thing out of-


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[Assistant] The only source for the name of Martin's mother is a forum post by Ken Ralston, in which Kai's society suggests the name while visiting Uriel's newly dug grave.


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[Assistant] So what about the pig? So the theory involves Reminada chapter 2 which has Blade of the Pig in its name and a supposedly metaphorical pig mentioned.


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[Assistant] Only later would it be revealed that Reynolds did this thing to come closer to Talos and on Stormcrown, the glorious yet Emperor Tiber Septim, only later still that he was under instruction by a pig.


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[Assistant] Man, this is just bringing me back to Raymond cow slash various.


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[Assistant] Uh, the pig is associated with the orcs who are sometimes called the pig children, suggesting that their father Malacath is a pig.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think the pig has something to do with Trinamak. I don't know, maybe because he had to go rolling through the mud, if you know what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] In his transformation. In his transformation, you know. I don't know, let's, let's move on.


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[Assistant] Let me guess, it's a forum post. No, it just came straight to a wiki, but uhm, I don't know why they thought that.


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[Assistant] What is the abortion of a black woman? Reddit.


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[Assistant] Dies Irae that was never written or that exists about it is a few mentions by Kirkbridecirca2013. Most of the Tesla iceberg meme is trivia. It's not a statement or important Tesla or just a reflection on being around a long time and paying attention to discussions on this sub and 4chan.


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[Assistant] Sorry, it is funny, but you know how House Redoran is like somewhat serious and like respects seriousness, but it's like the Redoran prized the virtues of duty, gravity and piety. It's like, ooh, gravity contrived. Um, alright, Fargoth cycle, hit it, hit it boys.


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[Assistant] I have died more deaths than you could ever even hope to fathom. My eternal torture will come to an end soon. You've underestimated me. You always have. And it's Fargoth. Super zoom in.


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[Assistant] I think that would be the perfect clip on Twitter to advertise this, uh, podcast is just Drew reading that with text on screen. Like not actual video, just text on screen and Fargoth's face.


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[Assistant] It's fun here if they don't know you're reading from a post though. You just making it up, it's your story.


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[Assistant] I'm thrilled, but you can't see that I'm thrilled because this iceberg killed me.


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[Assistant] Alright, well, thanks everyone for watching, uh, social media links are in the description below as always, and we will nerd out with you again in the next episode.


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[Assistant] That's right. The Daedric Prince, one of Scott's favorite Daedric Princes. So we know he's going to talk all about her today. Who is her favorite, bro? One of, I said, not your favorite. At least to the reclamation.


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[Assistant] But your reclamations are just like sky high anyway. Yeah, but hold on, I think there's others over here.


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[Assistant] Well, I guess one of the coolest things about Azura, look, we're gonna talk all about her history, right? We're gonna talk about everything she's been involved with, especially with the Dunmer of Morrowind and the Kaima.


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[Assistant] But first up, I'd like to say that she is also not necessarily the most straightforward Daedric Prince. You know, you have Princes like Nocturnal that don't want to be understood, but at least in my head,


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[Assistant] There, uh, I would say Nocturnal is less, um, uh, obscure than Azura. At least to me. I feel like I understand Nocturnal a little bit better.


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[Assistant] Azura is obviously a Daedric Prince of Vanity and Egotism, which is something that I guess is easier to understand. The fact that she desires to be loved.


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[Assistant] She desires to be loved, and everything about her is like beauty, and it is said that she feels pain even when her own followers don't love themselves.


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[Assistant] It's kind of like a blemish on the skin that you can just never get rid of, or at least like a permanent thing, which again is a little metaphorical thing, I guess you could say with her vanity. But the thing about Azura, which I find quite interesting is that.


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[Assistant] She seems, a lot of the time, kind of good intentioned, but is often, betrayed.


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[Assistant] You know, by the people that she tries to help. You know, having her star taken, potentially corrupted, you know, the Kaima who she taught all these different things to kind of like turning their backs to her and preferring the tribunal.


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[Assistant] Um, I think there's other examples as well, which we'll probably end up talking about, but it seems like she's no doubt bitter as a result. And especially if you do look at things on a nonlinear scale, like everything happening at once, it would just be this permanent bitterness that's there and this almost desperation to be adored and loved in all ways.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is such a small thing, but was it a rose? For some reason I remember it being some other- Maybe it was a petal? I do remember it being a red flower. Okay. Or a red petal or something like that. But yeah, the story is pretty much the same. Yeah. Just wanna make sure my head cannons.


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[Assistant] Oh, lining up right. Yeah, but yes, she does seem to, you know, be subject to...


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[Assistant] Almost being ridiculed or just, you know, I don't know. I feel like she hasn't done that much wrong.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but do, do consider that, um, a lot of the Dark Elves obviously did turn their back on Azura, even though their faith should have, like, happened with the Ashlanders, kept them strong believers.


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[Assistant] I guess it just depends, I guess it just depends how old the elf is and how much good experience they've had with the reclamations in their life so far.


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[Assistant] And you can almost- No, go on, go on. Sorry. I was gonna say and you can almost see this kind of like obsessive need to be loved through her focus on beauty, like especially in her realm. So her realm is uh, moon shadow.


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[Assistant] And when Morienzenis goes there, it's described as too much beauty.


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[Assistant] This surely is moon shadow where Azura dwells. It's almost that vibe of like the makeup ruined in the rain on a night out and like the strong perfume and the crying and like you can


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[Assistant] What are your two thoughts on the idea that she kind of can inhabit the space between the transitions as well?


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[Assistant] Like her sphere being dawn and dusk, but the in-between. The magic in-between the realms of twilight is where yeaah. Yeaah. Yeaah. It is interesting because one of her artifacts, the moonlight blade, which is like a sickle.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's in like the Kijiri stuff in the Elder Scrolls Online, but that's said to be able to pierce through like liminal barriers, which, which is essentially the barriers between like two things. Think of like a cup of water and like the meniscus, like that's the liminal barrier, like that's-


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[Assistant] Yeah. It's also cool when you think about what was done with Azura's star in Skyrim, how that guy basically fashioned a place for himself to exist inside of it.


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[Assistant] The evil wizard. Yeaah. We all know Malin Varin, right? Yeaah, something like that. Something very evil.


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[Assistant] No. No, it's a bit of a fortress of solitude, you know.


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[Assistant] Sure. That's actually a good, yeah, good connection. That's, that's really cool. Good, good work on that one. And, and I'll just point out, as you mentioned, like we talked about in the Nocturnal podcast that it said Azura had her key stolen. It's just another example of someone doing something bad to Azura.


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[Assistant] You know, like Nocturnal was defeated by Boethiah, which is interesting because Nocturnal was then brought before Azura to be judged. It almost sounds like, you know, Azura really does have quite a high position of command. It's not Boethiah doing the judging, it's Azura.


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[Assistant] But before she can, she's offered to actually stay and help the Khajiit and help Azura, uhm, or die. And instead she just waits for that opportunity, steals the key, and escapes.


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[Assistant] No wonder she seems so smart, like she knows what's gonna happen. She's got books from the past, the future. I mean, to her, it's all the same thing, right? Yeah, exactly. She's got access to the Elder Scrolls equivalent of the internet, really. Yeah. But it's, it's...


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[Assistant] It's kind of like, you know, if you were throwing darts at a dart board, you're going to get a bullseye eventually.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, that plays right into the bitter aspect of her.


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[Assistant] It is, it's also quite interesting to think and I'll put you to on the spot to see if you can think of other examples that perhaps I'm missing.


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[Assistant] But when you look at Daedric artifacts, I feel like the ones that aren't actually of Daedric origin, they all seem to be Dwemer. You've got Spellbreaker, you've got, you know, Moon and Star, which is a Dwemer artifact blessed by Azura.


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[Assistant] And then of course you've got Volendrong. It's just interesting that the Daedra takes such an interest. You don't see the same thing. Like here's a whole bunch of Ayleid relics that the Daedra, the Daedric Princes have claimed, you know?


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[Assistant] And ironically they're all gold and shiny. At least before they get corrupted.


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[Assistant] That's a good example, but that, that was literally made for Clavicus Vile.


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[Assistant] I guess, was Moon and Star is made for Azura? And it was blessed by Azura, but was that the original?


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[Assistant] No, yeah, I just find it interesting considering that the Dwemer, obviously they know that the gods and the Daedra exist, but they don't worship them. And yeah, it's like playing hard to get. All the Daedric Princes end up using their artifacts. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Interesting, but anyway, let's talk about Azura's star. So as you know, this is a Daedric artifact that I think is pretty cool. I mean, obviously it just looks really cool and there's the idea that it's this unlimited.


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[Assistant] Capacity reusable soul gem that's just sought after by everyone. Mages, assassins, like there's a lot of use for souls.


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[Assistant] Inside it and basically soul trap himself, really.


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[Assistant] There's also, sorry. I was saying for immortality. Yeah. Yeah. And also this idea that Martin used it, um,


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[Assistant] It's the ultimate risky move for him because he doesn't even stand to benefit from keeping the black star. You know, at least you betrayed Azura to get something and he just betrayed her for nothing. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Maybe just for the experience of it all. I find it also funny, it's just a little morrow in fact, but the gold value of Azura's star is equal to 5000 times the point value of the soul. So Azura's star combined with a large soul,


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[Assistant] The la- it makes it the largest value item in the game. The largest soul is 1500 points, giving a maximum value of 7,500,000 gold.


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[Assistant] The Ring of Azura. Compose yourself, gentlemen.


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[Assistant] The Ring of Azura is kinda underwhelming. It gives Night Eye for 20 points on self and Restore Fatigue 3 points on self. The Nerevarine receives it from Azura at the conclusion of the main quest.


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[Assistant] It's not about, it's not about enjoyment, it's not just a hedonistic journey, you know, it's a fulfilling journey.


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[Assistant] Not really, I feel like the only thing you'd talk more, you'd just be going all over Morrowind's


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[Assistant] It's kinda like a, if someone put a knife in your side and just left it there.


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[Assistant] If, if, if you're, if you're immortal, but it still hurts, so you'll live forever, but you just have this knife in your side, you're hardly holding a grudge for being angry, are you? Cause someone put a knife there and it hurts.


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[Assistant] But I feel like all Daedric Princes are like that. It just becomes more of an important thing when you're trying to talk about a Daedric Prince that's often perceived as good.


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[Assistant] It's, uh, it's been a lot of fun. Uh, I guess social media links are in the description and we look forward to nerding out with you all again.


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[Assistant] Anyway, I think that wraps up the podcast. Well, thanks everyone for watching.


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[Assistant] So, surprisingly, it's pretty frowned upon.


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[Assistant] Well that's the thing, even without talking about souls, you think about it and it's like, it's not gonna go down too well regardless, cause I feel like across all cultures, any mortal race has burial rights because it's essential for closure, regardless of what god you attribute


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[Assistant] ...retribute it to, whether it be RK or, uh, you know, any others, it's like...


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[Assistant] It's, it's important to have, you know, the bodies of your, your passed away loved ones, either cremated or buried so that you have that sense of closure. You don't have to see them, you know, you don't want to see them again. You want to remember them. But even now.


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[Assistant] But even just on the physical, even just on the physical level, so theoretically what you're getting at is if a necromancer were to get


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[Assistant] Huge amounts of, uhm, Dunmer sacrificing their spirits essentially to protect Vvardenfell and Greater Morrowind from the Ash Storms or from the Black.


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[Assistant] He has an opinion on just about everything as well. There's so many texts. But that's a weird thing about just lumping it in as a basic conjuration spell. It doesn't feel like it's something more serious than just a bit of magicka being used. So the lines get a bit hazy.


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[Assistant] I mean I- cause I'm not sure- oh go on, go on. Oh no, you go, cause mine's longer. I feel like mine- Okay. Okay, well, uh-


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[Assistant] Alright, alright, so basically, I don't know if this is supposed to be the origin story for Black Soul Gems, but when I was talking about kind of the potential for ethical necromancy before,


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[Assistant] There's an Elder Scrolls Online character introduced, Vastari, who's, who worked with Mannimarco for a little while. And I, it seems like it's written in a way that this is the, the initial origin of using black souls.


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[Assistant] In the mortal realm, but they traveled to cold harbor where they found these black crystals, brought them back.


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[Assistant] And that's kind of the foundation of it, and she has tried to, uhm,


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[Assistant] Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's another confusing thing, isn't it also just as possible to take a corpse and just apply a spirit that has no connection to this corpse, and that you can perform necromancy that way as well, so it's a soul that has no place in that body.


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[Assistant] Perhaps that's a fate for bad, you know, for criminals or something.


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[Assistant] I think to put it simply, it wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the spirit, because, you know, every culture has a different way of dealing with dead bodies, they have their own burial rights.


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[Assistant] When it comes to the spirit, that's kind of like when it leaves the hands of mortals and it's when the spirit is in the gods hands at that point. And it's like, can anybody really, anybody unless you're a god say what we can do with the spirits of, you know, past mortals who have made their way to the afterlife.


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[Assistant] To me, I feel like that perfectly sums up why that's the case. You know, the idea is that we mortals give up their


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[Assistant] Right, to control the spirit once the spirit dies, it's in the hands of the gods at that point. You know, it's like, it's why I imagine with the Khajiit, because they're so obsessed with the idea that you fly on Qanafi's breath beyond the moons to the, to the sands behind the stars. If, if you've buried a Khajiit in the desert and their spirit has already followed the path, then


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[Assistant] The only example is Vastari, who I brought up before.


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[Assistant] Plus part of it coming down to Vanus Galerian's kind of obsession with making sure no necromancy is ever carried out anywhere the mage's guild operates there's no necromancy.


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[Assistant] Self-fulfilling as well, because you- people who are willing to abuse necromancy are gonna become more powerful, substantial necromancers who are more likely to be, you know, affecting


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[Assistant] Otherwise they'd be, they'd be making rugs of each other if they didn't care at all. Yeah, exactly. But, but yeah, it's a taboo, and it's always, like I said it right at the beginning of the video, that burial rites are essential to all finite beings in that, like,


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[Assistant] Families want closure, and that taboo exists in necromancy more than any other magic, even though, as we've said, magic can kind of be abused in general. Like, if we had the same magic in the real world,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess that reanimates them in a just corpse way. That's definitely not related to the soul, I'd say. You know, if you argue Argonians have souls, but...


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[Assistant] How restricted, how restricted are reanimated corpses? Like, how much are they in control of themselves once reanimated? Because it is an unusual idea to be like, you know, you're playing a character who's, you know, a bit of a battle mage, but it's necromancy, and you just stab someone through the chest, and then moments after their death you bring them back, like,


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[Assistant] But we'll, we'll start getting into it, but I just want to throw out one sort of parameter. We're going to try and keep this a little more grounded in the sort of imperial understanding of the divines. So we're not talking about just the aedra broadly, like we'll bring them up, you know, other interpretations occasionally to sort of contrast them.


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[Assistant] So where do we want to start? Do we want to start with like the biggest hitters or do we actually want to start with some of the


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[Assistant] To be honest, I actually would say, like, it's probably even a little bit more human-flavoured anyway.


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[Assistant] If you had like a, uh, like a, if you, if you saw it happen, I feel like the change would have been a little bit more gradual. Like, for example, like very first incarnation of say, like, you know, Kinnereth.


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[Assistant] Like they might have started calling Kinnareth and so on, but I feel like it would have been a few like generations of worship where it kind of shifts and changes. Not like this instantly, okay, you know, now she's all soft.


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[Assistant] And I mean, if you actually look at the divines too, the other thing to consider is maybe the, the divines that we know today, like the eight divines, like in concept were created by Alicia, but the whole, um,


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[Assistant] Might be very different to compared to say like the imperial cult that exists afterward through the reman empires and septim empires. Like if you consider in, um, you know, in the real world, like.


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[Assistant] Look at, uh, Christianity or all Abrahamic religions or so in starting, you know, I guess it's Judaism or whatever ages ago, but then you've kind of got like the, you know, the formation of Christianity, the formation of Islam, and then you've got the splits within those, you know, you've got, um,


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[Assistant] You know, the sort of Anglican and Catholic and, um, Orthodox and all Eastern Orthodox and all of that. Like you can imagine a similar sort of thing somewhat like.


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[Assistant] The basically time and different cultures and stuff will have an effect on, on the gods. Even if as a concept, the Christian God has still been a Christian God since Jesus, like the idea, but you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] And if you do look at a lot of the divines too, they are very like...


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[Assistant] Cosmopolitan is a word that we throw around all the time, but I mean like it's kind of one size fits all, like they're not too restrictive.


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[Assistant] They don't have a big cultural persuasion like, you know, kind or something like that. That's a very Nordic feeling thing. It's just also, um, early Nibbanese culture, you had all of these like many, many different cults and around the time of the Elysian order, there was heaps of stuff going around the obviously eight defines the Imperial cult sort of was one of the more popular ones, but you can see how it could


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[Assistant] But I guess it's the same as like slaves would believe in, um, in like Rome would,


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[Assistant] Provide more like potential context to the idea of the slaves accepting like the eh, uhm, the elven gods and so on and because they were just born into it. It's also like,


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[Assistant] I guess, um, looking at slavery kind of different to how we do in the modern world and in our recent history where it was very like economical or like sort of transactional or based on stuff, like a lot of ancient, ancient slavery was


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[Assistant] And you know, you could even look at, uh, India and a lot of ancient India and stuff. So a good example of this and caste systems and stratification of society. The stratification of society in the place of slaves was kind of something like associated with the religion and the gods itself. So they could be looking at Oriel and like Oriel, they worship their God and so on, but they kind of feel like they're, they can


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[Assistant] Their place as slaves is ordained by the gods and it is made so by them, like, so their relationship changes. It's a bit different, you know what I mean? Like it's not, it's not necessarily like the sort of.


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[Assistant] And the other thing I guess to throw out there, because I imagine the cruelty would change depending on the aelid kingdoms, but like there's a lot of your base elven gods, which were the aedric ones. Um, but then you've also got like the daedric ones worshiping the daedric princes and they were the places of like,


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[Assistant] But it's interesting they're so- a lot of the gods still, they're not very elven, like even- even Akatosh being like-


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[Assistant] I mean, we can get into this a little bit, but Akatosh being like, you know, originally an interpretation of Oriel slash Alduin slash sort of like a mix, you know what I mean? You're bringing in the sort of dragon element, which also like, I feel like to the Nords, the bringer of


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[Assistant] And so on, like Alduin wouldn't be a...


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[Assistant] A good figure. Actually also, considering that the dragon, maybe this is a bit of a lore problem, but like,


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[Assistant] Consider that this creation of the Eight Divines is happening in like the year 200 and something of the first era. Whereas Isgrimor's arrival was only sort of like...


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[Assistant] It's an interesting, I think a lot of people ask us actually, I've seen this question around a bit, and it's about, like, what are the, the sort of real gods? And the problem is in the Elder Scrolls, it's all subjective and you can't actually go the real god, because especially when you look at, like, if you're just working off the eight divines, like,


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[Assistant] They were a creation. Like if you were looking at maybe the realest gods, you could go to


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[Assistant] Interpretation of what you sort of put onto them and they don't have that sort of conscious presence like the Daedra. So it's.


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[Assistant] There is no real way to go, like, what is the real god? Because some would go, like, oh, kinarath is a weaker form of kind, but then I'm sure there are nords and stuff out there that, like, no, they're separate, you know, in the same way that, you know, people could draw all kinds of, like, uh, big


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[Assistant] Mythic connections in the real world between like, you know, Storm Gods and like Indra and Zeus and Thor and whatnot, right? They could do that.


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[Assistant] But that doesn't mean some might accept the connections, but others might be like, no way, they're separate. They're different things. So it's kind of like, depends who you ask. You can't get a concrete answer because you can't, unless you have like, you know, the metaphysical, um, knowledge of the universe injected straight into your brain. Like you can't.


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[Assistant] Do you know what you could actually, another thing we've got to consider too about like the politics of the time, the, they had to create


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[Assistant] Like the, worshipping the elven gods would have been heresy. So if, but if you change it to something like these eight divines, while it might not be like, oh, like the best things for the nords, it's only the nords living in Cyrodiil. Cause remember at the time Skyrim is still independent.


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[Assistant] And in Skyrim, they're probably just worshipping their Nordic gods, like they were for a long time, like separate.


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[Assistant] So I guess they, for a long time, like a lot of the Nords, wouldn't all of a sudden convert to the Eight Divines. Perhaps some did, the ones that...


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[Assistant] Exists there, but the eight divines is a religion that is not, you know.


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[Assistant] Antithetical to it's just like, oh, it's okay. They can do what they want to do, but it's not worshiping the Elven gods. You know what I mean? So maybe that's a bit of a different way to look at it. So they don't, I guess, have to, they can still recognize.


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[Assistant] Yeah, are there any more like, uh, points we want to talk about later?


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[Assistant] Well, it's all interpreted. And especially when you bring in the whole like, you know, Maricardy Selectives dancing atop the towers that.


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[Assistant] Brought about the middle dawn, which kind of changed things and according to them, like, you know, removed the elven elements from Akatosh and then hence split them, which


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[Assistant] It's still hard to really understand like what it is in terms of lore. I think I generally like to just look at it still as this one sort of time god archetype and then look at the different versions of it and then you can build that whole like the sort of like akka concept of the different, you know, the insane god, the time stuff, all of that. But you know, you just can't really.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, but overall, no matter what sort of interpretation, he generally has something to do with time and being leader of the pantheon essentially.


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[Assistant] That's another thing I guess we should talk about just to preface that when you're


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[Assistant] Typically elven pantheons and elven beliefs, uhm, is like what you call like.


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[Assistant] You know, Anuic meaning, like, basically, not fa- not looking favorable upon creation. They thought it was like, you know, big Lorcan's trick and so on. We've betrayed- been betrayed and everything and now we're stuck here in mortality.


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[Assistant] Whereas what they call, what you can use as a term for like, padamaic, as in the other, other side of the coin is, you know, very favorable creation. They're like, yes, the gods loved us and created us and we were created by the gods, not descended from the gods.


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[Assistant] But the eight divines and imperial religion and Nordic religion all have that core underlying belief. Like they don't believe that these eight divines.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, we're betrayed or something. They believe in, they were created willingly. Cause you can, I think it's the song, uhm.


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[Assistant] Shazaar's song is the text, I think, or something like that. Uhm, and it explains, uhm, Shazaar's place in the thing, but it's like sort of Shazaar came to the gods and sort of showed them all the beautiful things they could create with life. So they sacrificed their own power to sort of create mortality and so on. So it was like a positive experience.


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[Assistant] So, and that's like underlies their entire religion. Cause you know, that's like the guests get down to the fundamentals.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, their creation story changes substantially.


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[Assistant] And it could, it could have been different much earlier as well. Like you could argue that, um, uh, Riemann and Talos and so on, and these big figures of the empire kind of took his place of reverence in a way anyway. Like, you know.


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[Assistant] I haven't even considered making a video on it before, but I'd have to work it out. But basically, there's this sort of idea that Talos is-


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[Assistant] Yeah, I- what do you guys think about his, uh, his origin- one of his potential origins as-


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[Assistant] I think it's a rather fanciful story just because


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[Assistant] You know, uhm, with modern technology, well, to them, modern technology, they're all knights in shining armor, but like the time period they're talking about is like very different in the reality of it.


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[Assistant] Being a mortal himself and experiencing it kind of also, you know, kind of gives a better understanding of the mortal cycle and having lived and dying yourself. So it's like thematically it assists who he is.


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[Assistant] Arcade's got more interesting interpretations than some of the other pantheons, but I will say I do like if you look at the, cause there's ideas that the uhm,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then eclipse, I think it eclipses him once every 8 days, shining a purple light called the Shade of the Revenant, and I'm pretty sure that's how they make the black soul gems and so on, but that's a really cool, I just like the idea of just, you know, the god of life and death having this sort of,


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[Assistant] Spiteful moon going around and trying to like, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then you kinda get into the dragon break, he sort of, he's the god form and the one reality where he's immortal and the two things split so he both became the necromancer's moon but then also remained immortal which is the one you fight in Oblivion.


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[Assistant] It kind of gets a bit wack. There's a lot, look, everyone who's listened to this podcast for a while now knows that, uh, if you're interested in the lore, you have to create a lot of copes for bad writing. You have to, it's, that's the art form, you know, and the unreliable narrator, you can work with it because of that.


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[Assistant] I just- Dibella sounds like it all. Like if I was in a cult, like I'd be in the cult of like Dibella. Like in all of them. Well, it's just beauty and art.


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[Assistant] And widespread cults are dedicated to both healing and sexual instruction. It sounds like the most hippie, beautiful existence kind of like peaceful kind of, you know what I mean? Like, uh.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it sounds really cool. And one thing I like about Dibella, which is interesting, I feel like he's a little.


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[Assistant] So uhm, Dibella as a being of beauty and art and all of these kind of things that exist within the mortal experience and life and so on. And she is a god that seems to have her origin with men and the Nordic pantheon and so on and doesn't really appear in elven pantheons. Uhm, so.


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[Assistant] That kind of like place there is kind of like, you can kind of see an underlying appreciation for life, whereas elven gods don't like it, like they're not-


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[Assistant] Christianity has been so successful in its sort of attitudes towards sexual interaction and so on. Whereas if you go to, you know, back to like the Romans, which is very clearly like what a lot of this is kind of.


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[Assistant] Different attitudes towards, uh, sex and purity and stuff and like things wouldn't, it's, you know what I mean, like the whole idea of sexual purity and so on might not, and I would probably say in the elsewhere, it probably does not apply, but could with certain groups and so on. Like there's different ways of, of, um,


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[Assistant] Standards too outside of like the kind of Christian, um, version of it or traditional Christian or old Christian, whatever you want to call it, but you know what I'm getting at.


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[Assistant] So whereas like you might not find it, like the, the, the problem with it, for example, so that others might


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[Assistant] Might not be that, oh, it's a devious kind of sexual thing that is happening elsewhere. It's actually that it's about the indulgence and not valuing things like, you know, righteousness or work or like, or like, piety.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so the actual grievance is with the sort of indulgence sort of lifestyle and like kind of thing that's associated with it as opposed to the actual sexual purity.


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[Assistant] There's the other thing too is just about the difference between monotheism and like I guess polytheism and so on is that uhm, in a monotheistic religion you're just sort of worshipping the one and following like their kind of codes and so on whereas


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[Assistant] I mean, arguably you can even say that like Catholics, for example, or like saints and so on is done somewhat like, you know, I don't know, pray to or whatever you would reference. I don't know the intricacies of it, but there are like patrons or of, you know, X, Y, Z and artists or something. Then you, you know, give offering to this saint or something like that for, for that. But in this it's a god.


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[Assistant] But, uh, yeah, she teaches no matter the seed, if the shoot is nurtured with love, will the flower not be beautiful? So, it's a very, uh, all-inclusive...


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[Assistant] But yeaah, like flowers and petals and stuff have generally been her kind of deal. And, uh, yeaah, I don't know, I just feel like it's cool. Like, I like even in the ESO, the Dibellon doll masks, if you sort of scroll down in the wiki there and have a look, it's just kind of like all these beautiful sort of Venetian kind of masks. And you can imagine like all of the cool art that would come from her.


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[Assistant] Like, he is like a school teacher god, is the kind of vibe I get from him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, in the- in the Nordic one specifically, it's that I think it's overall the attitudes wh- when you have Junal and it's like he was the-


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[Assistant] But, but remember magic to, to, to the Imperials, uhm, the Imperial battlemage archetype or as a unit in their thing is very important. So you can see how like, you know, knowledge of magic and so on has been part of their, uhm, thing.


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[Assistant] That's cool. 2 out of 10 snoozefest, let's move it on. Kina ref, let's go.


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[Assistant] And it's, it's also to like her cool stuff, kind of even like now they recognize like Kinereth, you know, obviously, or slash Kine as the mother of the demi-god Mora House. But it's like, she was sort of known as Kine back then. Like it was kind of pre formation of the eight divines anyway. And, um.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, look, to be honest, Kinnereth, specifically, not Kion and the other interpretations, which are much cooler in my opinion, uhm, is just the nature god filling that out in the pantheon, you know, the god of


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[Assistant] Heavens, winds, rains, remember there's even when you go and get the, the boots of the crusader in like one of the challenges, you're not supposed, isn't it, you're not supposed to fight back at the bear or something attacking you or the spriggan or something, is that the challenge?


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[Assistant] But you can imagine some cool things like an army like, you know, praying to her or something before they go on a march to, you know, make sure the rain stay away or favorable weather and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] To be honest, a lot of these go- a lot of the defines seem rather like, practical. Do you know what I mean? Like they don't-


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[Assistant] I mean, like kinda too, the other thing is you can kind of like reduce, you can say that the eight divines are almost like reduced to the archetypes the most. Like if we were talking about aedric archetypes and like a time god or whatever, it's like akatosh feels like the most.


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[Assistant] I guess like base time God, like he doesn't have an Elven flavor to him or he doesn't have some like Nordic kind of- Was it based or base time God? Just base.


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[Assistant] Well, it's kind of more so the, the, I guess just fertility broadly as in the fertility of the land, fertility of the worm, everything like it's related to growing new life.


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[Assistant] Yeah, she's obviously really, uhm, closely intertwined with marriage ceremonies as you know in Skyrim and it's sort of, she is the, she seems to be like the marriage god, really.


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[Assistant] Also, interestingly, I think it's the elves that they believe that she was the wife of Oriel, whereas in the Nordic one she is the handmaiden to Kain and concubine to Shor.


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[Assistant] Um, as well. So she, Mara is a figure that's seen as like in relation to like the chief of the gods or whatever, but so in a way she is like a.


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[Assistant] If you looked at like Alduin or Oriell or Shor as the father figure of their respective pantheons, you could kind of see her as somewhat of a...


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[Assistant] She's, she's the side, the side chick.


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[Assistant] The side piece. Yeah. It is a bit, and do your homework, isn't it? It's very... But you can kind of go like, like you could see, you know, we were talking about like, uh, stuff with Dibella, uh, Dibella. You could see how, for example, um,