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[Assistant] 30% seems really low to me. That seems like, that almost seems like, is there much point? Like do we use many vaccines that have only a 30% efficacy?


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[Assistant] As someone who works in this field, and you were impressed by...


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[Assistant] How do you explain that then? Is it just because they've just thrown so much resources at it? Did it just turn out this was an easier thing to make a vaccine for than we thought? Like, how can we explain?


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[Assistant] That after all these years of diseases and things that we just can't crack or it takes 10 years to make a vaccine that they were able to just smash it out of the park so quickly.


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[Assistant] You said when you open a report, the thing you look to first is the efficacy, and you were like 95% you were like, oh that's awesome.


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[Assistant] Vast amounts of money involved here, and so much at stake for these companies.


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[Assistant] And that's not something you'd, you know, you'd necessarily have if it was just like, you know, something being done for academic purposes or it was your PhD or something.


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[Assistant] What sort of safety mechanisms and checks are in place for the public to feel confident that all the data we're seeing and the reports and the studies being done are absolutely legit and aren't being corrupted by those stakes?


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[Assistant] Do these independent regulators have like boots on the ground and referees in the room, or are they just looking at the spreadsheets that are being supplied to them and saying, yeah, those numbers check out? Like, is there someone in the room, like when, when they're,


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[Assistant] Taking the results or you're doing random spot checks and things like that, or are you just taking their word for it when they supply all the numbers and say, this is who we gave it to, this is what happened, this is what we did.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't want to be like flippant about it, but I guess what I'm saying is like, you know, if you put a vaccine in someone's arm and their hair turned green and their arms fell off, you might say, oh, let's not put that one in the results because that's going to look really bad. Are there ever people in the room saying like, just making sure like the recording of the data is happening correctly?


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[Assistant] There is a subset of the world who are saying, the vaccine, don't take the vaccine, the vaccines are dangerous. I'm not saying those people are well informed, but there is that kind of chatter going on for better or worse.


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[Assistant] What are those people latching onto? Do you know? Have you got a sense of what they've seen or what they've read or what number they've possibly misinterpreted that has led to this sort of, uh, section of the community that is not in favor of the vaccine?


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[Assistant] So there's nothing wrong with doing that, it's just normally an expensive thing to do. But in this case, okay, hang the expense.


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[Assistant] Finally, as the professor who's like, you know, known for having an interest in how well reported and conveyed.


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[Assistant] Information is, how do you feel this has been this second half of the year, the vaccination stage compared to the outbreak stage in terms of that relationship between statistical people like yourself and lay people out there trying to understand what's going on. It feels like it hasn't been quite as good.


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[Assistant] I like that term, I can't remember what it was, but you said it earlier. I'm gonna use that in future.


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[Assistant] One last last question then, when all the dust settles and hopefully life returns to normal, what, what's all this going to mean for your field? Medical statisticians and that, it feels like this could be a real,


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[Assistant] That's all for today. I've put some links to Professor Roger's work, her TEDx talk, and some writing she's done about coronavirus in the notes for this episode, so do go and have a look.


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[Assistant] Thanks for listening today and please feel free to go back and listen to some earlier episodes if you're new to the show or you haven't heard them. Maybe even subscribe to the series if you're so inclined. I'm Brady Harren and you've been listening to the Numberphile Podcast.


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[Assistant] Today's guest is Alex Belos. Alex is an author, journalist and something of a puzzle guru.


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[Assistant] He's also been a regular on Numberphile videos over the years, featuring in some of our most popular posts. You may well have seen him cutting cakes, counting cows, and playing pool on an elliptical pool table. We'll get to the books and the puzzles later.


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[Assistant] But first. So Alex, where were you born? Oxford. Oxford? Yeah. Oh, so you're like a posh person, eh?


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[Assistant] I'm imagining you had quite a bookish upbringing then, like you were surrounded by books and- Yeah, lots of books.


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[Assistant] Did the fact that he was like that make you resistant to that kind of life? I think that.


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[Assistant] What were you into? Like were you into sport or music or dancing or, you know, what, what? Yeah, I was totally into music. So I was.


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[Assistant] Okay, so you're at Oxford doing maths and philosophy. And then how does that unfold? What is unlocked here? What interests, you know, where does it lead?


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[Assistant] Club automatic, you realise it's the podcast title now. I hope you realise that. You have no choice in this. All right. So after being a nightclub owner and nightclub owner by night, uh, philosopher of mathematics, expert by day, did you do well at university? Did you come out with a good degree?


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[Assistant] Did your mathematical inclinations affect what you were writing about editorially at this stage? Like would you be pitching, pitching your editor on, do you know what, there's been a really big discovery at the Large Hadron Collider, or there's been this proof in mathematics, or were you doing regular news coverage?


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[Assistant] Five years? And what kind of journalist were you in that time? Were you writing about Brazilian architecture? Yeah, I was.


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[Assistant] All right then. So let's talk about how you've become who you are now. So you've come home. What, what now? Does a guardian take you back?


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[Assistant] Began to doubt, like you began to think, is this good enough? Is this actually going to make a book? Or was it the opposite? Was it, oh my goodness, I can't believe how much stuff is here. This is going to be the greatest book ever written.


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[Assistant] I feel like I have the luxury of making videos about mathematics where we can get out a piece of brown paper and a pen or we can draw a diagram and I can use animations. I mean, I know you do use pictures and diagrams in your books, but do you think writing about mathematics presents extra challenges because of the


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[Assistant] The lack of visuals or the lack of being able to see things unfold on the page.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. I can imagine, because I mean, we probably won't talk as much as I'd like to about your puzzle writing, but writing a puzzle, I think must be a nightmare for that, because one thing I've learned on the internet is if there is a way for something to be misunderstood, it will be misunderstood.


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[Assistant] Okay, well I'm getting into my crosswords at the moment, so maybe this is the book for me. This is a good book for a pandemic, isn't it?


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[Assistant] This has been great. Thank you. I want to see one of those club automatic posters as well.


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[Assistant] Well that's all for today. Links to Alex's books and other work can be found in the notes for this episode. Please do go and have a look.


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[Assistant] Our thanks to the Mathematical Sciences Research Institute for supporting this podcast. I'm Brady Harron, and I'll be back soon with another episode. You can also check out hundreds of Numberphile videos on YouTube, of course, and support our work yourself by going to patreon.com slash Numberphile.


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[Assistant] Professor Ed Copeland is a man who just loves solving equations. Ed's a theoretical physicist at the University of Nottingham, a man I've been making videos with for well over a decade. Now his bread and butter is cosmology, string theory, the early universe, all that good stuff, but in his heart of hearts,


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[Assistant] Ed loves numbers, mathematics, neatly jotting equations on pieces of paper. You've seen him in some Numberphile videos doing just that. Today he's going to tell us about his journey from schoolboy with dreams of playing cricket for England and how doing high school mathematics helped him through a health scare later in life.


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[Assistant] But first, we talked about Ed's childhood in the Yorkshire town of Huddersfield.


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[Assistant] Okay. What were you like as a little boy? What was your childhood like?


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[Assistant] As you got a little bit older, like, but we're still a kid, we can't, did you have nerdy interests? Were you already, were you already on the path to becoming like, you know, a cosmologist, physicist, or were you like, did you want to be a football?


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[Assistant] And as you moved through primary school, start of high school, what did you want to be when you grow up?


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[Assistant] Towards the end of high school, you obviously, it sounds like you're excelling in mathematics.


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[Assistant] Just a quick break to say if you're listening to this podcast you may be interested in career paths, maybe your own career.


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[Assistant] Well today's episode sponsor is Jane Street. They're a research based trading firm with offices all around the world. And they have a hunch that the sort of people who listen to Numberphile might be interested in a career with them. Solving puzzles, cracking problems, all in an exciting international big stakes environment.


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[Assistant] You could find yourself living in New York, London, perhaps Hong Kong. I know of a few brainy Australians who've actually made the trip over to Hong Kong to join Jane Street, actually. Very exciting place to work, amazing city. Now,


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[Assistant] If you go to their website, that's JaneStreet.com and click on the really obvious tab called Join Jane Street.


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[Assistant] You'll find everything you need to know. They've got jobs listed there, internships, outreach programs they run, stuff about what it's like to work there. Any question you've got will be answered there on the webpage.


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[Assistant] At what point do you start being exposed to the things I associate with you now? Cosmology, early universe, string theory, all this crazy stuff.


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[Assistant] That almost seems brave to me Ed, like that you're going and applying to study something that you don't even know anything about. It's a, it's a topic you've never even heard of. Is it brave or desperate? Cause you want a job, like you want the PhD or is it brave?


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[Assistant] And a lot of other academics I speak to talk about sitting at computers and writing code and like that, but you seem to be very old school and you'll just get, you, you do it incredibly neatly by the way. You've got the neatest notes of any one I've ever seen, but you, you liked actually just that tactile.


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[Assistant] Yes, yes, he passed away now, so he can't get it, but he was, uh, he very easily could have got one by the sounds of it.


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[Assistant] How your job works from the research, I understand you teach, you do some teaching as well, obviously, but like research wise, do you just lie in bed and think, maybe this is how the universe works and then, and then what do you do next? You can't test it.


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[Assistant] So it's sort of like you're, you're moving the sliders around and seeing whether or not it still works.


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[Assistant] So it sounds, this is what it sounds like to me. Tell me if I'm wrong.


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[Assistant] You're twiddling a bunch of dials, all these different dials, and finding out what configuration of dials


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[Assistant] Would match what we observe in the universe. And if you can get all the dials on the right numbers and it matches what we see in the universe, you may have figured out how the universe works, but then maybe someone could come to you and say, well, that's nice, but I've got some bad news for you. That dial doesn't actually exist.


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[Assistant] How advanced mathematics do you have to use? Like, would mathematicians look at what you're doing and think, oh, that's child's play or is it quite advanced math?


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[Assistant] How do you come up with new ideas? Have you, personally, have you got a thing you do? Do you like to go for a walk in the woods or have a shower or?


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[Assistant] What do you do when you have like a block though? Have you got like a, like just in your personal life, if you've, if you're, if you're not having the ideas outflowing or something, have you got like a thing you do?


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[Assistant] Do you ever worry like, you know, you're not an old man, but you're also not as young as you once were. Do you ever worry you're running out of time and you want to discover more stuff and find out more stuff? And you talk about having all these different projects on the go, plus you got to teach, plus you got to that. And you got, do you ever think, Oh no, I want more time. I want to, I want to do more stuff.


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[Assistant] Do you wish, I'm thinking back to that fork in the road where you chose between physics and mathematics and your dad said physics. Do you ever wonder what the maths? Yeah, I do.


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[Assistant] What was it like for you going back years and years and years later looking at what high school students are learning now?


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[Assistant] Uh, one more question. You've written lots of great papers and won medals and worked with amazing people and amazing friendships. Would you swap all of that success and that career to be a test cricketer for England?


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[Assistant] That's all today. Thanks to Ed Copeland for sharing his time, and thanks to Jane Street for sponsoring this episode. More links to Ed's work and his long list of videos we've made together will be in all the usual places. I'm Brady Harren, and you've been listening to the Numberphile Podcast.


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[Assistant] Today we're being joined once again by Professor Hannah Fry, a mathematician at University College London.


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[Assistant] Hannah's also an author, a broadcaster, and a familiar guest here on Numberphile. Hannah's always great fun, quick with a joke, yet today we're talking about matters of life and death. That's because about a year and a half ago, Hannah was diagnosed with cervical cancer.


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[Assistant] It was extremely serious. There were fears it was spreading. Within a month, Hannah had radical and life-changing surgery, including a hysterectomy. It was a move which has hopefully saved her life.


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[Assistant] Hannah's a wife, a mother of two young girls, and experience the fears and emotions you'd expect from anyone facing cancer.


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[Assistant] But she's also a person supposedly well-versed in the details of risk, probability. She's rational, analytical.


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[Assistant] Did that change the way she thought about cancer? Well, Hannah filmed much of her experience and that deeply personal footage is going to form part of a program about to be broadcast on the BBC. The show's called Making Sense of Cancer.


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[Assistant] And today we're going to hear more about it. But first, I asked Hannah about her diagnosis and how she spent many months setting aside a routine letter inviting her to be screened.


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[Assistant] And then you had this letter telling you to come in and you know, have a screening, but you were like, I'm too busy and pushed it to the side.


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[Assistant] Is that what it was like? Is it, or is it like a series of steps, oh it might be this, it might be this, and it gradually becomes more and more serious? Or is there, is there this catastrophic moment where you're sat down in a room and someone says, I've got something terrible to tell you?


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[Assistant] This is bad news is raining upon you, and these huge decisions are to be made. At what point, or did that kind of mathematical, analytical, Hannah brain...


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[Assistant] Cut in, or did that just all go out the window and you suddenly became just like, you know, an emotional person? What about my children? What about my husband? Am I gonna die? Or did, did that-


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[Assistant] Did that mathy side of you cut in? Did the training take over?


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[Assistant] When you're sitting down with the doctors and the experts who are talking through what's happening to you and what your options are, do you tell them, hey look,


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[Assistant] I'm a mathematician. Give it to me straight. Give it to, or give it to me different to how you would give it to some of your other patients. Are you, do you like, do you plead for them to talk to you in a different way?


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[Assistant] I haven't seen your TV program yet, but I have read a very, very excellent interview with you in the Telegraph recently, which I'll link to as well. It did come through, or I got the impression from that article that you do have some regret about how things played out.


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[Assistant] For people who don't know, you do have children, two girls as I understand. You and your husband were open to the idea of having another one though, and that was something, that was obviously something you had to weigh up because that, that would cease to be an option as I understand.


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[Assistant] You talk about those sort of risks and, you know, weighing up all these things, but I guess when, when the stakes are...


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[Assistant] Did you come away from this process and the filmmaking process with a suggestion or an idea? Like if you were put in charge of the National Health Service tomorrow, is there an answer? Is there something you would do? Is there something you would change on day one to deal with this problem?


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[Assistant] Tell you what, as someone who's currently going through the National Health Service to have a baby with my wife, everything you're saying about your cancer


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[Assistant] Applies to that as well. The number of times I've sat in a room and I've had a bunch of stats and numbers thrown at me and then been told to make an instant decision or have the decision made for you, it is exactly the same situation.


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[Assistant] I guess I think around, maybe around birth and having children, there is this new infrastructure that's popped up, all the baby groups and the things you get involved with, and there's so much talk and chatter in those groups about how to play the system.


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[Assistant] This is gonna happen, but this is how you counter it. You've gotta stand up for yourself and you've gotta do this. And maybe that hasn't sprung up around cancer the same way it has around having babies.


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[Assistant] But also, like, again, attaching numbers to things. It's easy to attach numbers on how many years you might live after this, what the percentage chances of this, in terms of whether people are alive or dying, or have the cancer cells, or don't have the cancer cells. But how do you attach a number to how easily you walk? How...


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[Assistant] You know, those other things that you're having to attach values to, how important it is for you to have a third child or not, and you can't, there's no, there's no number to attach to that really, cause it's, it's fuzzy.


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[Assistant] A thing you did during your process, which is perhaps not common, is you did document it. You filmed lots of the steps, uhm, which is the reason you've been able to create this film about it that we're all going to see soon, hopefully. Why were you filming it?


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[Assistant] You might not be watching the film at the end. We might be watching your film and you wouldn't be here.


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[Assistant] What's it like for you watching it now, watching that footage that you recorded?


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[Assistant] What do you hope is going to be accomplished as a result of this film being put out?


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[Assistant] Because you've put it out there so much, you know, you've made the decision to talk about it and try and get these messages out there. Obviously everyone now knows.


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[Assistant] All these intimate details about your cancer and your treatment and stuff like that. What's it like for you now when you go to meetings and you're meeting people and that sort of stuff? Is there, what's, what's that like? Has that created a weirdness or an awkwardness? Is that hard for you? Is it easy for you?


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[Assistant] I can imagine there will be people who won't thank you for pointing that out though. It sounds like a little like anti-vaxxer, doesn't it? It sounds like- What, to be anti-treatment? Yeah, to be like, you know, don't have treatment, you know, it just ends up damaging you and doesn't save your life anyway. Oh, right.


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[Assistant] What's your current status now? What, what, what, like, like, where are things at for you now after you've had your surgery and everything? You're all clear and things are good and what's, what, what does the future hold?


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[Assistant] Hannah's film Making Sense of Cancer will be broadcast on BBC2 here in the UK on June the 2nd. Check your local guides. It will of course also be available on the BBC iPlayer for streaming.


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[Assistant] I'll include useful links and information in the podcast description about the TV show, about cancer, and more about what Hannah's up to.


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[Assistant] Numberphile is supported by the Mathematical Sciences Research Institute. I'm Brady Haran, thank you very much for listening today, and we'll be back with another episode very soon.


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[Assistant] Hey! We got a special guest on the podcast today. We do. Yeah, this is uh, this is Jack, our editor on our Darkness Fall series.


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[Assistant] And I've seen you, you move pretty quick, you get to a spot with the mouse and keyboard, and then boom, you switch to the controller.


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[Assistant] Duke Fire, who is the, uh, he's the film director at Cape Fear Community College. I love Duke. Oh yea, we all love Duke.


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[Assistant] We're just on the precipice of building laser weapons.


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[Assistant] I have an idea. I have an idea. We're moving. It's moving day. We're leaving. We're going to a new place. We can't take anything with us except for one thing. Thank you.


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[Assistant] It's an idea. Well obviously we will talk more about it, but it's fun. I think we've decided.


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[Assistant] You played seven days before you joined up with us.


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[Assistant] Gotcha. All right. So you kind of got introduced through us. Yeah. Yeah. Basically. Interesting.


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[Assistant] Darkness falls, I feel like you need, cause I've played with friends.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Now, we've been doing it a bunch. Yeaah. And that's a testament to that game though. Exactly. We've been doing it that long and we're still like, I wanna play. Yeaah. I wanna keep, yeaah. I don't get bored of that game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and it'll get there. I mean, that's, that's the thing. It's like we are still really early in it. It's gonna ramp up.


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[Assistant] Now I like, I like the way those episodes are flowing because it is different than our normal series, which is usually like two over here doing something, two over here doing something. Now it's like there's four of us and we're all doing something completely different. And it kind of makes the show, the pace feel a little quicker, which I like.


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[Assistant] That's amazing. It is crazy, isn't it? It makes sense. When you're a kid, you just get sucked into things. My god, I could play, like, back in the day, I could beat a Mario level, no problem, but if I had handed the controller to my mom, she would have walked ten feet and just right into a hole.


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[Assistant] Because when I met you, it was like you were into gaming.


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[Assistant] Yeah. It's cheaper than university and you actually learn something from it. Yeah. Which is like, hey, no one's gonna treat you like a, like, you know, you don't get treated like a kid out here in the real world. Either fucking do it, or fucking go home.


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[Assistant] Uh, neither. Okay. Well, I'm gonna raw dog that carrot.


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[Assistant] Like you would, Simon, you would probably kill it at a show like that. Yea, probably so. Yea.


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[Assistant] That's fine. Lobster would need to be mostly bland as shit. You really gotta cover it in butter. Yeah. Like you gotta load it. Yeah. Crab's better. Yes. Just make crab rolls.


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[Assistant] I hopped into Arma for a little bit and my initial reaction was like, wow, okay, this is deeper than I thought it was. It's deep. It's like, it's very, yea, it's a lot of, it's very simmy.


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[Assistant] Right. I just wish you were here too. I do too. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] You'll have to blast out the link once you have a Poppy Instagram. Yeah. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Today's guest is the much acclaimed computer scientist and mathematician, Donald Knuth.


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[Assistant] I don't even know where to start with a short biography of him. Widely regarded as the godfather of computer science, his multi-volume tome, the art of computer programming, well, is kind of a big deal. He's won more prestigious awards than I've even heard of.


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[Assistant] But for many, his greatest blessing to the world is devising the omnipresent tech typesetting format, which has transformed the way mathematics is communicated. We'll talk about all that and plenty more in today's episode.


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[Assistant] As is often the case, I found myself starting with the issue of name pronunciation.


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[Assistant] Another book Don Knuth has written is called 316, Bible Texts Illuminated. Now John 316 is perhaps one of the Bible's most famous verses. So Knuth chose chapter 3 verse 16 of every book in the Bible and subjected them to his unique analysis.


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[Assistant] Thank you for listening to today's episode. You'll find plenty of useful links to do with today's topics in the show description as always. I'm Brady Harren, and you've been listening to the Numberphile Podcast. If you'd like to hear more, a really useful thing you could do is support us on Patreon.


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[Assistant] Go to patreon.com slash numberphile. But of course, the most useful thing you can do is subscribe to the podcast on your player of choice. If you've done that, thank you. If you haven't, well, please consider us.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so were you also, cause I know that again, this was talked about in a few different ways, there could be seven cards that, you know, everyone's drawing from one at a time, or is it everyone gets dealt seven cards?


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[Assistant] Cause when you're switching, like a switching basis is a really good one. And obviously it's a super powerful one. Like if I know that I've been dealt this hand.


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[Assistant] And, and that's the thing too. Well, your original idea was one during the day and one at night. And now you go, okay, well, if we're doing everyone gets seven.


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[Assistant] Very simple. You can't go to the traders. Yea, melee weapons only.


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[Assistant] That's why you need, we need to figure out how many cards there are. You're gonna need to have, I mean, obviously there's gonna be doubles in stuff too, but you wanna deal everything out and then still have a good, you know, 25 cards kinda left over.


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[Assistant] Yes. Right, but if it's a, then shitty hordes and one person has a horrible horde base.


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[Assistant] We could be playing, you know. From what I understand, I think I've been told by Kane and...


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[Assistant] No, but at least we'd be able to know what we're talking about instead of speculating, even though we might not be able to talk about it, it would be nice to know, wouldn't it? Sounds illegal. It's also nice to be surprised too. Yeah, I want to be surprised.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, we have the opportunity to probably be testing the betas. Oh, right. Like, like Kane does, I believe. Well, ask him. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I personally, listen, I, I like them both, but I really like listening to him talk. Like I, I, with their podcast, I see clips of that all the time because it knows what to feed me, because if I stop and see him.


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[Assistant] You know, but anyway, uhm, yeaah, I'm a big fan of Burt. Yeaah. You know, and I thought that he did a really good, like, he had a show, like, up in the cabin or something. Yeaah, I loved that. I liked that show. It was a really good show. I thought so. Yeaah, and I, and I respect for the movie. Yeaah. That, uh, the Russian movie thing that, I mean, it was, to me it wasn't like a fucking phenomenal movie, but it was... Yeaah, I didn't watch that. It was fun.


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[Assistant] It was a fun ride, all done on a stand-up bit that I thought was a really funny story, that apparently he sold it.


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[Assistant] The way he sold that was, he had a meeting with uhm, whatever, whatever fucking movie studio, and he had three ideas.


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[Assistant] And the guy behind it, uh, you know, whatever the executive was like, was like, all right, well, I want to do one of them, you know, so you pick one because we can only do one. So which one do you want to do the most? And he goes, well, I don't want to do any of these. And he's like, which one do you want to do? And he goes, well, the one I want to do is about the russian mafia, but I'm pretty sure if I made the movie that they would hunt me down and kill me. And he goes, sold.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Yeaah. I think he's likeable dude. Anyway, so that's interesting. It's fun that we get good music acts and comedians in this little fucking town.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you had mentioned one thing that kind of annoyed you, which was in the beginning.


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[Assistant] Yeah, which is weird, but like the baby Billy thing, which kind of made me go and I don't know what episode whenever they, whenever they showed him might've been in the second episode. But when the guys kind of came up to his character.


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[Assistant] And they wanna talk to him, you know, they resurrect him. Right. And you go like, how the fuck are these guys like? They're just like, they need to be a lot more careful with this thing that they see.


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[Assistant] I'm such a big fan of hers. Like it doesn't even have to be her music. I don't know why. I think she's great.


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[Assistant] That would be great if we could just make a game, but now the game is called blah blah blah film festival and your goal is to go out into this, you know, virtual kind of wacky world and make films. Try to create a narrative, yea. Yea, because I mean, that is the funnest part of it and then, you know, figure out how to make the challenges along the way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, to me, it's the fact that you get to film something, whatever it is, and that's as good as like the environment that they give you. You know, if we couldn't have a game that you could film things and then go and sit down on a stupid little couch and watch it on a little TV screen, that's fucking, that makes it.


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[Assistant] It's a lot of fun, you should totally do it. It's not stressful at all. Everything lines up perfectly every single time.


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[Assistant] And we wanted to get it out there quick. Originally it was like, ah, you know what, let's, let's see if we can play this. And, and I was gonna attempt to cut it. And then after we played it, we realized, alright, this should be three different episodes. And there was kind of a, some...


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[Assistant] Technical things, you gotta technical hurdles to different kind of cut. It is for the fact that it records everyone's


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[Assistant] Right. And they, even though you sync something up in the beginning, cause even like over the weekend I was screwing around with it, even though I knew I had to do a step that I left out, I was like, oh, at least I should be able to do these few steps. And right away everything was unsynced. You know, we sync our audio.


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[Assistant] All together and then, and then after Apsro did his thing within 10 seconds, we were off by one second.


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[Assistant] Right, but uh, point being Anthony was like, uh, we were figuring it's like Anthony volunteered himself to edit the first episode, so. Which means, yeaah. Which means the sacrifice of a grounding.


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[Assistant] Trust us, trust us. And then even when you go out in the elements, like you go like, oh, so it's totally okay that three quarters of the screen is completely blown out.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, and just that, that distant trail off is perfect.


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[Assistant] One thing, I don't know if it's a critique or not, but I just remember, you know, you do die pretty quick when you die.


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[Assistant] Sometimes it's instant. Yeah, most of the time it was instant. I shouldn't be saying pretty quick. Like you'd just go like, it'd be nice if there was maybe a little bit more of a struggle.


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[Assistant] There was a punch, even though I don't think I've ever, uh, punched a threat. I think I tried to throw punches, like, what do we do? What's our weapons? There isn't even a punch.


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[Assistant] Poke it in the eye. There's gotta be a contract. There's no click. I guess not.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Oh, I thought you were talking VR too, cause I'm like, I would want to play Seven Days VR. I think that'd be awesome if we played.


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[Assistant] I think that I would, and I don't know, but I think I'd have a better sense of direction when I'm in that type of world. I think I would have a better idea, I don't know, picking landmarks when I'm looking at a flat screen or whatever, like even when I try to do it, it's hard for me to see shit, it really does all blend in.


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[Assistant] Do you have, did you get any prices of any of the stuff that's out there? I didn't look at the prices yet, no. Cause my guess would be, it's just a total wild guess, I like stupid shit like this. Something like that, if we're to get it on the affordable tip, like right now, like I don't know what they were, I would hope that


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[Assistant] You know, that would be my hope of like, what's still expensive, but you go, all right, but this is kind of like a, an exercise equipment. You, hopefully it's going to, you know, be able to last many years of you doing whatever it is on it. You go, okay, that's not.


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[Assistant] Easily spend fifteen hundred bucks on what you, a home gym. Like a treadmill, yeaah.


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[Assistant] And all the straps, the sensors that they have now already, which are like, you're feeling the hits, you're doing whatever and you go like, oh wow, you know, it's crazy.


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[Assistant] But uhm, yeaah, whatever, there's so many fun ways that people can be exercising and VR being one of them.


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[Assistant] What a fun game. So yeaah, so anything else about the game? Uh, we're gonna have three episodes, uh, everyone here loves it, and Silas has gotta be serious, gotta be serious. So, we'll, we'll see how it goes. Hopefully you guys like it. Hopefully you liked it. So it's up to you. If you like it, we'll do more.


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[Assistant] Smart guys too with that price point. It's a great price point.


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[Assistant] Right, and even at the end when, you know, you fail, and it's not too much of a spoiler there, it's like, you just go like, what's gonna happen the first time when it happened? I'm like, ahh, I'm laughing at it. It's like, it'd even kill you.


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[Assistant] But they're very, people are very harsh about, like, I always go through the, you know, I'll go through the comments and people are even bashing who I think is smart, like, Apsro.


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[Assistant] And they're so good at so many other things, and you go, that's a, that's a, that's something you'd think they could, they could fix with an update.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it should be pretty easy to walk by.


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[Assistant] Anyway. See, that's something that you'd be able to, in what game? Conan?


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[Assistant] If you could, so you could build plots in Conan and plant those hedges? Or can you put those hedges anywhere?


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[Assistant] It'd be nice to be able to build a whole house that had a whole bunch of spiraling around it so that it was just, it was a tree, but there was a doorway you can go inside and. Secret door. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Here we're recording this early. Yeah, should talk about too much. We're not, we're not. We don't know, it's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uhm, but looking forward to it. Hope it, hope it came out. Oh man, I just, yeah.


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[Assistant] So then, chances are, a lot of it's gonna, there's not gonna be any gameplay. It might all be like, just like cutscene shit.


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[Assistant] It's gonna look great. Who's Rockstar? Good guy. I know, I think, uh, I wanna know how good.


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[Assistant] And, I think, I mean, listen, things look good right now, right? Oh, they look absurd. Things already look absurd. I think what's gonna be much more impressive, obviously, is what we can do in the world, cause it's already crazy what we can do in a game that's 10 years old.


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[Assistant] Break, break things, breaking up and doing whatever, maybe some VR aspects, which would be fucking phenomenal. I mean, that's, I've been hoping, I mean, it's been a while and VR is obviously, I don't know. That's what I've been hoping for.


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[Assistant] Cause, you know, what is different from one to one? It's your environment, right?


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[Assistant] Like I was surprised when you go, oh, I just assumed it was him and a few, at least a couple of his buddies for lack of, for ease. Just him. You know what I'm like? Oh shit, he's doing it all.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's the thing, the transition and the music in between, that together, it really makes you go like, oh wow, that was, that was meant to be.


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[Assistant] Which makes me think of another, speaking of things being strung together.


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[Assistant] You know, cause we look at numbers and analytics and what kind of, you know, videos do whatever and Duralias.


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[Assistant] That really is been well received or at least a lot of people are watching it. Yeah, for something that's, you know, been out for a long time. Um, yeah. And it's so much better when you do have that stuff cut out. It makes it so much easier to watch.


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[Assistant] Get some of those guys mixed up. I genuinely love that song. Cause I'm just Ken.


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[Assistant] The animation in that is so good. Okay, my opinion on it is I liked it, but I liked the first one better by a good bit. That's just my opinion. But not to say it was bad, but I also only watched it once and shit sometimes goes over my head.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like I got a little man crush on him now. Okay, gotcha. You know, and there's a song that is super catchy.


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[Assistant] Super catchy tune, and he nails it. It's such a campy, you know, perfectly- It was perfect. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You're right. I do want to see that really very much. And it would be nice to watch that and then rinse it off with a nice, yeah, Barbie. Rinse it off with Barbie. That's the proper way to go.


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[Assistant] He's one of the few people that I actually, uh, I saw in town. I know you worked with him on three or whatever, but one of the few actors- No, I didn't meet him.


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[Assistant] I was going down, uh, the hardware store or whatever it is that I guess they were shooting in.


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[Assistant] I don't know, somewhere, but like right by Oleander and like downtown. He went in a hardware store, was he? They were shooting there. Okay.


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[Assistant] But he was outside, so I'm driving by and they go, oh, there's Robert Downey Jr.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there was a story, I think there was something about the bartender inside and I think that there was a shared pic somewhere of him inside, but yeah, he was just hanging out for a while and she was just like,


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[Assistant] Anyway, yeah, on, uh, on October or September 30th or whatever it was, I found that Mick Jagger, I guess, shared a picture of himself in front of the thirsty


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[Assistant] He was, uh, somebody that, and who knows if it was real, but like even 20 years ago, I, I, I remember him being known as one of the, you know, like one of the first type elitist type lead singers that be like, nobody can look at me.


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[Assistant] Hey, I'm gonna go and hang out in a, in a pub. You might take a picture of me, you know, so again, I know nothing.


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[Assistant] But also regular plumbers kind of. With Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt is handyman. No, that's, that's brilliant. It's a, it's a perfectly simple concept that everyone can get and yeah, you get, and now those people are like always gonna do a good job because they need to get rated. Well, that's the thing. They need to get rated well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but there are also some Uber drivers, if you're gonna compare them, where I go like, oh my god, you're driving in this vehicle with people for money?


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[Assistant] No, no, no, that's a problem and you can't do anything about it because they're on their property.


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[Assistant] Not as much as, yeaah, you'd think that everything should be getting smaller because you want it to be more efficient because if it's more efficient and smaller it's also cheaper. People like saving money overall. You don't need to rent a, you know, six giant hangers. It's gonna save you a lot of money.


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[Assistant] The way my brother who investigates everything ad nauseam and uh, and does whatever he swears by U2TV absolutely being the best option for all of the things, especially for someone.


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[Assistant] They kinda are too, cause everything's recording too, like they will, they absolutely capture everything that you want them to, like I've not been a DVR person for a decade, but there are people out there like, oh I, I save this, I save this, and it does it all for you, it's like the ultimate- Oh that's pretty cool. I didn't know they were doing that. It's all wrapped up in the shit.


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[Assistant] Try to make a little bit of scratch on it, you know? Anyway, well listen, thank you for listening to us babble. Yep. We'll see you guys on cable.


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[Assistant] So you guys got like lists of stuff, like you know, really the only games that I ever run across that I think I wanna play are, I hear through you guys, and I'm like, oh that looks cool!


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[Assistant] But it's not gonna happen though, we've talked about this for so long.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they just kept on going. They just kept going with it. They kept on looking at that supercut. Yep. Yeah, which I, you know, I get it, could make a great supercut.


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[Assistant] Um, sunken land. I would have got cancelled. Yeah. Yeah, sunken land. That's the one that we all are like, okay, Neeb's the most drought. That's in my mind. That's happening. That's gotta happen. It is your habit. Like you've, I'll say it. I don't care. I'll say it right now.


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[Assistant] You've said that you want that to be your next thing that you're going to go to and that's going to probably even start here in the next couple of months. That's your next name.


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[Assistant] Exactly. I remember getting shit for wanting to edit stuff. And then it was like, you know, just lightly edit it and it was just, I was told, well, that's not what it's for. We're supposed to just hand it off. And I'm like, well, we should be able to do whatever we want. And you did whatever you wanted. And I'm glad that you're taking it upon yourself to do the same, Neebs. Thank you. That's awesome. That's what everyone should be able to do.


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[Assistant] What do you mean golf? We didn't miss golf, we played golf all the time. Golf with friends, team version.


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[Assistant] You're a ball, but you're a gun. So how are you a gun if you're a ball? Well, you're a ball with a gun. Oh, with a gun.


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[Assistant] Are you sure they can build or you just don't claim a house? I watched it. So you build it, okay, so if you build it a house, Nibs.


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[Assistant] Maybe a little. Maybe a little bit. I like the model of a little, you know, you don't have to actually, you're just weaker.


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[Assistant] Um, so, Entrouted. Yeah, he's on that. Well, he's gonna be doing some more GTA before he gets to that. Not that it's not in this category, but I thought he was gonna jump on Entrouted like right away. I was surprised he was gonna do some, he's supposed to do some GTA.


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[Assistant] No, I'm talking about he wants to go back into GTA. Oh yeah, GTA. That's what I was talking about.


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[Assistant] No pressure. Have some fun. I mean, yea sure it might be hard, but no pressure. Like the heist shit can be a bit annoying if you fail and you gotta start over again. Yea, I'm over the heist.


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[Assistant] Six is coming, but still not till 2025. That's nice. So then at least we know to wait. Then it's gonna be on PlayStation, right?


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[Assistant] I'm definitely gonna play it. Cause why not? Cause you're gonna wait six months to play the game for the people who really want to play the game. Of course they're gonna get it for the PS5 if they have a PS5.


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[Assistant] We do. We do. Survivish. Survivish. Oh, survivish. I think that's a perfect word for it.


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[Assistant] No, but if you have to eat or drink and not build, you're more of a survival game. Or if you have to build something but you don't have to eat or drink, it's still more survival. Yeaah. Because you're always dying too.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, no, I, uh, stayed away until, uh, Christmas Day when I went to sleep. But don't starve and don't starve together. Those are something that we never, we never played. We played Don't Starve. Yeaah. You hate it. Did we make it a video?


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[Assistant] Yeah. It was, it was worth it. Was it? Yeah, because we got to talk about it. Okay.


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[Assistant] Well what else, what is, what can you get? At a winner?


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[Assistant] I saw the same one, he was just finished up doing 30 pushups.


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[Assistant] It has to move like that otherwise it'll drown, it'll suffocate. No, no other fishes do. Next time, look at you.


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[Assistant] Love how he just assumes that you're saying it wrong. Because he can't say shit right. Alright. It's a tough word. It's not. See an enemy.


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[Assistant] I had a traditional seven fishes for Christmas Eve, even though I didn't get to go to hang out with the family, I went and picked up the food. Oh yeaah. Did you have seven fishes?


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[Assistant] Bish. Okay, that was your fish. So a lot of Italians, yes, will do some fish, but yeah, I like, uh, it was so good. Okay, that looks about scallop-y, doesn't it? And scallops come out of the... I'm still not sure.


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[Assistant] The scalpel comes out of a shell.


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[Assistant] And man, I grew as a kid, as a kid, I hated scallops as a kid, my least favorite dinner all year. Cause I loved hanging out with my family. Cause whenever we all hang out.


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[Assistant] Food was the big thing and I was only hanging out with the Italians, right? The Irish people weren't, I wasn't hanging out with them when I was a kid. So it was like, it was such a big deal and I loved almost all of the food except for Christmas Eve. I was a picky kid.


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[Assistant] Uh, like cake. As dessert too. I was picky with dessert, like ice cream can go fuck itself. I'm like chocolate, cake, and milk, and I want cookies and milk, but I don't want to have ice cream cake cause that was like the, I don't know, the fake cake, like the fuck you, that's not cake.


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[Assistant] Who's that over there? A cream pie? A cherry pie? No. A peach pie? Nope. Go to hell!


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[Assistant] Anyway, so seven fishes, I was, but now as an adult, love it.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Love it. You're all growns up. All growns up.


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[Assistant] That's a crustacean, isn't it? It's what we eat. They're shellfish. You know that the fish is in the word. Shellfish.


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[Assistant] Is a hammerhead shark a hammer? It swims! You're telling me that a shrimp doesn't swim in the water and live underwater? People swim! We're not fish! It lives underwater. It breathes underwater! Crab? It's not a fish though. Is a crab fish?


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[Assistant] Well we have, listen, we got, oh spam I love, I love spam. I like it too. Yeah, it's gotta be, I like it fried thin, like sliced thin, and then crispy. That's it, that's the way to do it. Okay, I haven't had it done right. Yeah. And it's shit, trust me, it's shit, it's garbage. It's like salami too, salami's gross but it's delicious.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'd be happy to eat that in a pinch. Anytime.


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[Assistant] Even if it tastes weird, in my older age I also like, kind of like more bitter sour taste. And I also really, really kind of enjoy...


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[Assistant] Something as simple as burnt toast, buttered, as a kid or even a young or human being. I'd always want, I'd never want to have anything well done. Like bread wise, you'd be like, oh that bread's burnt, but now I kinda like the taste of burnt shit. And I like the crunch, but I like the, I like the burnt taste.


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[Assistant] We could talk, we could talk a little bit, uh, cheese ball, but like, I don't like New Year's resolutions, that's bullshit, but wanting to change something for the future is always a good thing.


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[Assistant] You know, like what, how their New Year's resolutions are bullshit, but just wanted to change something in the coming year.


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[Assistant] You should always want to, you should always see the improvement that you need and try to seek it. I think that that's...


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[Assistant] Uhm, well the thing is, what you need to work on is probably, uh, instead of, if somebody says something, and even though you might think that you know exactly what to say to counter what they've said, if it has to do with you, just sit there and go, hmm.


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[Assistant] That's a perfect example to let go of the thing even though you know that you're right. Yeah, but he will not.


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[Assistant] But it is a good practice in being able to, because as soon as you said you said, I can't, there's a weakness.


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[Assistant] Everyone's one out of 25 times. You don't want that.


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[Assistant] I love them now. I fucking love them. Yeah, I don't know where I got good ones. Alright, not all. Okay, so. We're done with food. Yeah, we gotta move on from food. New years is coming. Lots to improve. Always, always trying to improve.


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[Assistant] But I've always kind of been bad with names my whole life. It's been one of those things where as soon as I'm meeting someone, I'm more concerned about whether or not they think I'm an idiot or how


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[Assistant] Should I, are my hands sweaty? And then when they say their name, I'm like almost always not paying any attention. And then, yeah, it's, it's almost always the case. Like when I don't, like I, I still do it now, but now like back then I'd never ask it again, but now I'll immediately ask it again. I'll say, I know you just said.


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[Assistant] And almost always, you know, like for me, I'm trying to be much more self-aware of my thoughts. Cause I have spent a good part of my life being so negative internally most of the time.


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[Assistant] You wouldn't say it's just internally. No, it's not just internally, but trust me, and I know you're being sarcastic.


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[Assistant] You know what? I tell you, let's go where you want to jump into something deep here. Fear and shame and judgment. So much judgment. I am judged for, thankfully judged for a living. I judge myself so harshly. If I don't correct it, it's going to end up killing me.


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[Assistant] It's one of those things where you go. Judging yourself. Yeah. Fixing that. Oh man. I judged myself so hardcore and I, and I also obviously get very defensive and, and half the time it's like knowing this is ingested and this is fun and then I'll get caught up in the shit. This is your year, baby.


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[Assistant] Or I made a mistake and I'm stupid for making that mistake or I hate myself because I can't figure out why I keep on making the same mistakes and so people judge themselves so harshly and you know what you need to do is forgive yourself.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, whatever. Opera or something just... Yeaah, just something you're not into. Loud is obnoxious. It is. No matter what, even if it's music that you happen to love, if I don't want to hear it really loud, Jesus, come on, man.


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[Assistant] Maybe we'll do a couple of Neib's talks this year.


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[Assistant] I love it. If I wasn't full from a lunch I just had, I'd take you ladies out to lunch. That's right. And they didn't know each other. You could have got them together.


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[Assistant] Lunch. Yep, and you're now gonna be friends, maybe even late life lovers. That's right.


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[Assistant] The truck. Come on, let's do this. There you go. Yeah. I was thinking of, uh, Neib's talks.


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[Assistant] I went to New York a couple of weeks ago and, uh, I was hanging out with the, the guy who I was racing, uh, my car down the road with, you know, the cartoon that. The one that is done. The car's done. The car's done. Yeah. I'm like, man, she brought up something about that. He happened to bring it up.


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[Assistant] And I said, ain't that funny? I said, you know, somebody made a little cartoon. I said, we talked about this. I didn't realize it was seven years ago. We talked about that story in the podcast. It was Neebs talks about fear.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he watched it and actually I just sent him the link for the podcast, uh, cause I didn't know which podcast it was in. I didn't realize it was linked to the bottom. So, but yeah, it was nice to go up to, uh, I did go, I went up to New York. I went to the top of the Empire State Building for the first time since I was a kid.


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[Assistant] And, you know, I bought tickets to go with my kid and thank goodness I ended up getting the red carpet. Cause you know, I was only in Manhattan for 30 hours.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Okay. They called it the red carpet, it ended up being like...


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[Assistant] I must have walked past. Oh, I bet it was busy as hell. Jesus Christ, the freaking, there was a, I thought the line outside the building was bad, but I didn't realize when you went inside it was ten times longer, going up this elevator. Anyway, it was beautiful. I got so lucky, I got to go on the top.


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[Assistant] Meaning, uh, it was beautiful weather. Uh, it was like 55 degrees and sunny and clear and gorgeous. Nice. And got to see that, you know, the tree and just did some, you know, stereotypical.


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[Assistant] New York City male Christmassy shit, which was fun. Got some good pizza.


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[Assistant] No, flu. Thank God. Yeah. Flu, then rented, was gonna go see family, then was feeling, thought I was feeling a little bit under the weather, gave them a heads up, and then they're like, stay the fuck away, and I'm like, alright. Fine. Stayed away, I was feeling good again, I didn't get sick until I came back.


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[Assistant] Right, come on, oh please. And they're the ones, like my whole family. You, on Facebook, you'd see them. They're all taking pictures because they all do the seven fish. Yeah. Every single one of them. That's too many. Yeah, and they all look so good.


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[Assistant] But the thing is, but it's my mom thing. My mom's from Brooklyn. Yeah. So I mean, I don't know. I mean, she, she lived there for 30 years before she moved to Long Island.


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[Assistant] Anyway, sorry, go on. No, nothing to go on. Well, I think I cut things off on Neebs. Were you saying something before I broke into the red sauce?


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[Assistant] Did I, did I mention, I meant to bring this up to you earlier. Did we talk about the sunset and sunrise in New York and here?


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[Assistant] Right, but did we talk about, cause I searched it recently and I was shocked at the time difference. How much difference? Yea. How much? When I did it at the time it was 30 minutes. Oh.


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[Assistant] And that made me go like, cause it was 5 o'clock here, when I was up in New York, sunset was 428. Cause I was looking for, you know, doing things and what's going on and I'm like, what the f- that's crazy.


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[Assistant] So, now again, this was probably right at the peak of the short days, cause I think it was when I was in New York, so it was probably like the 16th or 17th when I checked it. Yeah. But I was like... Yeah, I wanted to guess that.


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[Assistant] I gotta get those freaking lamps that keep, cause that's, that's definitely a real thing when it comes down to you not having, I mean, you've experienced it, but it's very common depression.


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[Assistant] You know, to get from lack of sun. Seasonal depression, yeah. I mean, they have these lamps that are supposed to mimic it, but it's only about half as good as what it is to be truly outside.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I think the point is the sun. You're right. I don't like it.


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[Assistant] But the Swedes, man, they eat their babies, I'm pretty sure. They do, and I frown upon that, personally. Yeah, I mean, unless they're bad babies.


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[Assistant] You hungry? Okay, yeah, let's do that. Okay, yeah, eating food. Alright. You guys have a happy new year. Yeah, have a happy new year.


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[Assistant] We're doin' four. We're doin' four. That's crazy. Oh shit, this is already over past the new year. Yeah. Yeah, it will be. Hope you had a good new year. Hope you had a safe one. Yes. Bye. Bye y'all.


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[Assistant] So what, it's been out for several months now? Yea. And they're still working on it. And they're still working on it. So yea, we're good.


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[Assistant] So, to give the peeps here, the loyal folk, the ones that are even here for the podcast, that they don't mind listening to is just bullshit.


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[Assistant] They take the clickbait like, you know, like last week and they, they want to know.


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[Assistant] When can we realistically, a good estimate, cause I know you could be good, do you wanna, are you gonna have to have at least a few of these done before you start to release? I would like to, yea. Can we maybe hope that we would start recording in the next two weeks? Oh for sure, for sure.


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[Assistant] Okay, hopefully then maybe even sooner, then maybe even have an episode out as soon as six weeks from now.


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[Assistant] Sure. As long as it's also not a shit ton of, you know, hopefully, you know, it's something that can be easily done by like Jack when he's in god mode just tearing his shit up out of.


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[Assistant] And it is great, cause yea, the water, you know, water works like water.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'd like to, I mean, hell, we're just here talking anyway, and people like seven days. So I'd like to try to work out some more of the logistics about seven days then. Cause why not? Is that okay? Or is it not interesting enough?


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[Assistant] I'm talking about, I'm talking about starting off with fucking three extra water and like a couple extra food. Maybe a pipe pistol. Yea, I'm not even thinking one weapon.


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[Assistant] Really? You're just, you're just worried about food and water. Little bit, little bit of food and water.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I mean, I'm just asking, do you guys really mind? And if you, if you do mind, then okay, but why not?


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[Assistant] Where, where, and I think this is a brilliant, I mean it's super simple, I think it's a great idea to, and maybe even of course me, I want to increase the number, but to have people have to choose those things just like they do on a loan. They have 30 things that they could choose from and they get, you know, however many things. I don't know what the numbers are, but that's how a loan works.


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[Assistant] So, to me, it makes it more like the thing that we're naming the show after.


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[Assistant] I order their food and I've been loving it. Aside from everything tasting great, it saves me a lot of time cooking and a lot of trips to the store. And I'm eating healthier with Factor because I'm avoiding fast food and they have options out the wazoo keto.


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[Assistant] Vegan and veggie, calorie smart and protein plus options on the menu each week. Prepared by chefs and approved by dieticians and each meal is prepared fresh and never frozen. Using the best ingredients and delivered straight to your door.


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[Assistant] Another reason I love factor is that I really like cutting back on ordering takeout, which in return saves me money. And usually when I order takeout, I'm not eating very healthy either.


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[Assistant] And the meal's already in just two minutes. No prep, no mess.


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[Assistant] Well, no, alone-ish or alone gives you things, gives you things to choose from and everyone gets to go there with a certain amount of things. I remember talking about this the first time, it made sense to me the first time too. You're just thinking of my idea from the first time that y'all rejected.


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[Assistant] It is, yeaah. Cause you know a horse coming. And, and I like the, even if, even if it's only three or four things, whatever it is, like if you do get to choose, there's that whole thing of like, did you make the right choice? Did that, did that choice help you or not? There adds that tiny little bit of strategy in there too.


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[Assistant] Bottles. Glass jars. Glass jars. Glass jars, yea. And with the murky water are you now able to clean it? Yea, you can boil it. You can still boil the murky water. Are you able to boil it in a fire or do you need to have a grill? Just a fire. So you only ever needed a fire? I think you need the cooking pot. You may need a grill.


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[Assistant] Now, I'm assuming, elongating the day of course, so I'm thinking, you know, the, the, maybe it'll be like one hour from the beginning of when we're recording to the end of the horde.


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[Assistant] That's a normal day. Is that a normal day? So, I don't know, whatever you're thinking then it would be an hour and a half.


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[Assistant] A dozen zombies and I feel a little bit prepared.


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[Assistant] I go, okay, you know what, maybe I can, maybe I can do this.


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[Assistant] I don't think I'll ever be able to get to Workbench. I'm just trying to...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm just gonna totally just try to survive with the complete basics.


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[Assistant] Cain, Cain even mentioned, he did, so he's probably listening to this too, he brought it in, I didn't tell you guys, but just like, oh, by the way, just in case you want an extra, an extra person in there, he mentioned, he's like, I was going to ask, but I didn't want to ask. I felt weird asking whatever he said. And, and I, and I honestly, I didn't even respond back to it.


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[Assistant] Uh, cause since then he messaged me a couple times, but I just assumed, and I shouldn't, I just assumed that us doing this the first time, it would just be us. That just makes the most sense to me. You know, it's just like, and if we're gonna have


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[Assistant] Dora, would you feel comfortable helping me? Not in, like giving me advice before we start?


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[Assistant] I think that you are going to have like, for instance, trader missions. Like if we're not, I don't think we should do the moat now only because I don't want it to limit that. I think we should be able to run out first thing in the morning. Do you plan on doing one a day? Where are we going here? I'm asking you your plans. I'm trying to copy any advice.


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[Assistant] Right now we can, I'll go with anybody, I'm a whore. And I think everyone should go with anybody. Anyone who wants to do something. But I will look for that easy way to get stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean, honestly, I would, I would very easily do any sort of deal for like, hey, listen, let's split the food that we find.


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[Assistant] They are a personal finance app that monitors your spending and helps you lower your bills and they easily find any and all of your subscriptions for you.


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[Assistant] One that started off free for the first year, and then BAM, that's how they get ya.


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[Assistant] And on another music account subscription that I was being double charged on for who knows how long. And another very helpful notification I get from Rocket Money.


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[Assistant] Is when they tell me that a normal monthly charge has changed for some reason. So thank you Rocket Money. You make it so much easier for me to stay on top of my bills. It's great. So please, do yourself a favor. Stop throwing your money away.


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[Assistant] I got back in it semi-recently just to look at something in the last like few months and it took me like a good 30 minutes to, to remember. But once, once I started getting into it, I was like, oh, okay, yeah, this is where they are and this is how you do it. And I forgot some things for sure.


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[Assistant] Well, I thought we talked about Justin's tag team. We'll figure it out.


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[Assistant] And cut your wireless bill to 15 bucks a month.


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[Assistant] Did you see an east, it's always nice, like I only drove cross country once, but I remember it was the first time, I don't even remember what state, maybe New Mexico, but I was seeing like a watch and a fucking nice big ass storm from like really far away. Yeah, we didn't see any of those. See that rain and see the lightning and all that, you'd be like, it's so far away.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's a major support that the engineers knew needed to be there, and it's not working anymore.


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[Assistant] The tape came off of her top. We need to tape that little shit. Her jingle bell? Jingle bell thing that she's got.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was fun. It was different. Yeah, I got, uh, I got a little bit burnt.


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[Assistant] But it was nice. I drank a little bit too much. Yeah, yeah. Lost, uh, lost everything at some point. Lost everything? Lost my phone.


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[Assistant] After the drinks and hanging out and whatever it is, I'm just like, huh, fucking, where's my wallet? Like, I don't remember.


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[Assistant] Where the fuck my wallet is? I'm like, I look in the bag, I only got one bag with me. It's got everything in it that I believe that I need, but not my wallet. And this was after we were off the boat. Yea, when you're thinking the best. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, I never brought it with me. It was in my fucking car. What a twist.


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[Assistant] For a hot minute there, I'm like, damn, I'm like buzzing, I'm like, I fucking lost my wallet.


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[Assistant] We're so old that you used to go back, back in the day, you'd pay $6 to get on a boat and that was, that was a fee?


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[Assistant] Going on. Not much, uh, we're doing a podcast about Shrouded today and other stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and we did jump in and explore it and I think that's on the dumpster. Just run around.


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[Assistant] I haven't played that game, but you traverse pretty well, like as far as, cause in enshrouded I felt like you could jump, you could grapple hook, you could swing, you could grab onto things and climb. You felt like you were very agile.


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[Assistant] And the skill tree goes forever. We didn't even, we barely touched on that.


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[Assistant] Was that Scorpion that did that? He like, jumped to the left of the screen, came out the right? Oh yeaah. Yeah, maybe.


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[Assistant] Very friendly. Yeaah. Yeaah. They were great. The guys at Steam were all super nice.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I don't guess my hair was colored, but yeaah, got like the chops and the mullet and, but yeaah, I'm hoping you can color your clothes and do whatever in the future.


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[Assistant] Yeah, when you're in the mist, I guess you, you have a timer. It's kind of like being underwater. But if you stay too long in there, I don't know if you start dying or...


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[Assistant] I think there are, like, there were some things, some things you could take to extend your time or some little checkpoints you could get that would refresh your time.


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[Assistant] They should always have the, the message and then optional reading below that. For sure. Cause if you're playing alone.


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[Assistant] Alright, so I'm feeling a bit, uh, overwhelmed with games right now. Man, no kidding. Cause we're trying to, you know, the series that we are doing, we wanna play those all the way through. Yep.


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[Assistant] Yeah, wanna jump into Ark? I mean, even like games that we've, we did a video on the front, and a lot of comments in there are people that have played a lot of it, and they're like, man, this game is really, really good. Yeah, that's another, yeah, potential one. And what else? Uh, Sunken Land. I'm ready to jump in that. Oh god, yeah. We got so much when you gotta get to, but yeah.


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[Assistant] Nah, yeah, that's, yeah, what a nuts year. I've been watching that series, uh, on Netflix with Eldris Elba.


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[Assistant] It's about humans playing games. It's kind of like, uh, I think there's three episodes, I don't know, several episodes. And a lot of them are just about how people play games, kind of to practice their survival or to teach children about things. Sometimes it has to do with their work, you know, like these farmers would, uh,


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[Assistant] I have to chase the sheep around the pastures and all this stuff and they would have rivers they have to cross so they would take these long sticks and basically like pole vault over the rivers.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So now it's a sport there where you're not, you're not pole vaulting up over something. I've seen it. You're trying to cross water. Yeah.


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[Assistant] These, uh, eSports kids making millions of dollars playing League of Legends or whatever. Yeah. And just how, man, they're just tired and wore out all the time. What a life. Like that's got to, that's got to wear on you quite a bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Between us. Yeah. I definitely think about that when I go to go to bed. We were playing rust and we were playing, you know, arc versus or whatever. And even sometimes now with, uh, with our horde night every night. Oh my God, you know what I gotta do? I gotta.


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[Assistant] But yea, but hey, we do have the dumpster, some of these games that we, I don't know if we played sunken land on there, did we? Did we play sunken land on there?


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[Assistant] No, it's out. It's out. Yeah, it's out. We just, yeah, haven't played it. And I've got a video, I think it's up on the dumpster. I just, I had to jump into art cause I love it. I love it.


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[Assistant] I think you all saw the, that you can switch ammo, like in your bow and arrow, you can switch the, uh, a wheel, like you can choose the ones you want, and then also I think that's with all attachments, whether it's the silencer or whatever else.


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[Assistant] Mod tab, I don't know how it works, haven't used it yet. Uh, uh, yeah, I don't know. But maybe. Okay.


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[Assistant] And who knows, who knows how long, uh, Horror Night Every Night's gonna go. If, if that series wraps up, well, we definitely have room to start another series. I think it's going longer than most people, including us, expected. Yes. Yeah. We're getting ready to bump it up to what? 64. No, yeah. We're 64 zombies per person.


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[Assistant] Most people in my life don't care about what I'm doing. Right. It seems like, uhm, as far as video games go.


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[Assistant] And then they think, uh, video gaming is all one category. They're like, oh yeah, my son plays Roblox. So you probably know what I'm talking about.


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[Assistant] That's definitely hard to explain because hardly anybody does that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, now I know Simon probably remembers what it was like trying to use a mouse and keyboard back in the day. Not due to some degree, but like, I remember I tried to show my dad scrap mechanics.


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[Assistant] I'm like, hey, you like, you like how things work, engineering and stuff. Like what, what's happened here and have you built a car? And then I realized, oh yeah, that learning curve of walking and looking around. Yeah, that is.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And we've been doing it for so long and probably everybody listening. Yeah. It's second nature. Um, but yeah, you forget there was a learning curve at one point.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And a lot of people listening definitely don't remember cause they grew up doing it. There was never like a, you know, a teenager adult part in their life where they were just figuring it out for the first time. Crazy.


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[Assistant] It's a game changer. How about this? Reality show.


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[Assistant] It could be volleyball, cornhole, or just whatever. Right. You go out looking for those, you know, as people, we all know a couple. Yeah. A serious one. Super competitive will ruin their day. If they, if they lose, you know, the local volleyball night or whatever, bring them all into one show.


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[Assistant] Where they live together and then they also play the games and there's like a, you know, a tournament that lasts several months.


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[Assistant] You should try other things like that. Other injuries before going in. A neck brace or something. You're right.


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[Assistant] Under your brassiere? Yes. Are you being too slouchy? What's going on over there?


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[Assistant] You spend all day on a computer. Yeah, it can be no, no.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean, listen, everybody out here listening is probably a gamer. Yeaah. You gotta, you gotta work in some physical, you know, exercise. Oh yeaah. Oh yeaah. Stretching. Yeaah. Stretching.


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[Assistant] Then make it a routine. Can't just say, I'll walk today.


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[Assistant] You know how people complain to me they can't sleep? And I'm like, when you go to bed? And they're like, ow, sometimes eight, sometimes two. I'm like, well, of course. Yeah. Right. Of course you ain't going to sleep. Your body don't know what's going on.


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[Assistant] If you're not sleeping, you're complaining about it. And you're inconsistent. That's why. I'm tired.


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[Assistant] I don't know why I'm so sweet. Do they always deny it? Yeaah. Yeaah, but nooo. Like yeaah. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] My room is very bright. On purpose. Cause yea. When the sun's up, I want to get up. I don't want to be. Yea, if you got a blackout room, you're sleeping.


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[Assistant] Really hate short days. And then in the winter, it's not a good combination.


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[Assistant] This week for them. Right. I'm fine going another hour the other opposite way. How about that? Well then what would you do to adjust?


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[Assistant] Let's spring forward again. Two springs forwards.