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[Assistant] That might be not authentic to how you are in person in real life, but sort of listening to your voices and looking at you on podcasts, I sort of, this is my image of like the fudge mother days.


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[Assistant] Kind of like Love Moon, because for these kind of scenes, I found from my experience that you need to find these distinct stylized versions of people that sort of, like, because maybe I'm still learning.


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[Assistant] You look like at a face and you think, oh, I kinda wanna replicate the features, I don't wanna just like...


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[Assistant] I want to have something to be, but to me at least personally represents a person and you at first like struggle between trying to literally draw a person's face. And uh, but when slowly sort of shifting towards finding like a stylized version of Michael, Michael.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I should be mentioning the race with Michael. Even though Scott told me I can make you anything, I still like went back to what was mentioned initially, but it was such


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[Assistant] I don't know what the hell we are. I'm not the hydrologist, I'm sorry. I'm not the nerd.


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[Assistant] I go, I go to cloud district very often.


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[Assistant] Sometimes even you have to like tell me, well, I think it's a little bit over the top, but...


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[Assistant] But, uh, I really liked it. And I even sort of placed on the table that you are at, I placed like a reference to why Drew is what he is, maybe in a way. Because, you know, it makes sense for this kind of character to be there. I'm really excited now. Yeah. And it's like I showed somebody.


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[Assistant] Somebody close to me, I showed, uh, those sketches and then I showed like your faces and for whatever reason, Drew was the most recognizable.


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[Assistant] But because in like sketch form it doesn't have the, the, the certain skin tone that those guys have and all the additional texture and decorations we bear. So it's like in sketch it's easier to recognize the face.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, uh, there is a lot of influence from like, the voices.


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[Assistant] I'm excited for it. I'm hoping it works out well.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I hope. I hope so. I really hope so. You can even probably upload it later if I delay it. Because it would make sense. I think it's kinda like a nice packaging, I guess.


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[Assistant] For like, uh, cross subscribers.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. It's cool. Because like I said, it was something new. I didn't do this kind of stuff before. And I mentioned to Scott again that


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[Assistant] It's kinda like those, uh, YouTuber animated things. Some animators do for, like, let's play. People always think it's shit. It's like, fudge-muppet animation. Much cooler, though, because it's not an animatic. It's a full-on thing. I mean, it will be.


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[Assistant] Ah, but yeaah, thank you, thank you for taking part in this, because, uh, yeaah, it's fun.


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[Assistant] You know, you know the funny thing about you and like your voice and like the image, because obviously, right, like I, I, I had a call with Scott before and like I kind of could already have a more developed image of Scott or how he is when he talks of script.


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[Assistant] And, uh, but if you like, I sort of just, my image of you was like from the interactions.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? I would imagine a lot about my body movement. Now, you'll tell what I, what I'm sort of.


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[Assistant] Having a new experience in my life. First time talking to Pudge Muppet. But, I don't know, it's interesting how you sort of responded to it now, because I was, like, midway as you were talking, I thought, oh, oh, should I have said that? Was it like...


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[Assistant] Because it's like a new element in the work process. Like having these characters from people I don't know personally and sort of interpreting them. Yeaah, Scott was the easiest one I think.


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[Assistant] It's a Dunmore haircut. Because there is a, there is a so, almost similar hairstyle in Vanilla Moraine.


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[Assistant] I, I've sort of skipped over the last note in the script. I kinda read it and forgot about it. But then I almost subconsciously started bringing this note to life, but like exaggerating it. You probably don't remember what it is. It has something to do with drinking.


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[Assistant] But you can rely on efficiently, you know, you don't need to invent a wheel again and sort of combine some body movement, but not like continuously to sort of follow logistics reason.


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[Assistant] You have those like, I was using like the, the mouse for like, for talking like for first time, because in today, if you look at it, it does the reverse, like you, you're always looking at the,


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[Assistant] The listener, not the person talking, but here I had to like, uh, combine both. And, uh,


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[Assistant] Where I was going with this? I don't remember. Something about... Basically it's very cool.


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[Assistant] Like, like, uh, like those famous Elder Scrolls YouTubers, fudgemobbit, they say it loops back to, it loops back to playing with, uh, misinterpreted mythology and, uh,


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[Assistant] Basically, doing what brings you joy. Because, uh...


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[Assistant] I think palanel is, uh, like, too mentioned. It's such a sort of...


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[Assistant] I wanted to mention it before, but I forgot. The...


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[Assistant] Light, the hand of killing light? Is it what it's called? Yeah. It's on the, it's on the wrong hand.


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[Assistant] Early on, and I chose to not change it.


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[Assistant] And it, to me, looking back on it, especially how much traction this animation got.


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[Assistant] I was all like proud of that. Because, uh, it was like a sign of change. It was like, this is now a playground. Nothing is holy anymore.


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[Assistant] It's like, I, I really, I hope, I think there is no repercussions for, uh, for modding the mythology, like legal ones. I don't think there is.


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[Assistant] And, uh, yeah, but, uh, because like, I don't know if like, but yeah, doesn't matter. But it's exactly what it was. It was like, I don't want to...


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[Assistant] Things that were already said. I'm not like interested in it anymore. I'm trying to find like a better, a better way of saying it. It's the same thing you do. You're not gonna go and say hey.


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[Assistant] Open up Wikipedia, I'm about to read. A sermon. Like a religious practice. Hey, today, we got, we got right here today.


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[Assistant] Look, I'm very good at continuously branching out, so you gotta stop me if I branch out to watch. Go loop me back, please. But I wanna mention about the Terminator vision, right? It's like the early idea for a whole thing.


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[Assistant] Was just, uh, two loops. One is where he stands. With, uh, uh, without my house, actually, initially, over the fields that I laid.


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[Assistant] And, uh, the Terminator meme, because I made the music before the animation. And it was like, I wanna do Gregorian chants. But then it goes into the Terminator clang sound thing. And then I realized that


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[Assistant] I actually kind of plays well over it and resembles sort of the way the synth strings come in in the original Terminator thing. And I made that so the Terminator was fixed into the music. And then the division was just like...


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[Assistant] So it's either similar font or the exact font, the HUD, HUD, you say HUD, right? The Terminator UI, the Terminator HUD is using. And I looked up the way his HUD, like I was so, I don't know why, but.


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[Assistant] I have all my audio directed right at here.


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[Assistant] Uh, but, uh, that was, uh, it was one of the early ideas for it. And, uh, because...


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, but I made it sort of, I like the whole camera is where to thing, you know, like with blood and tears splashing on the lens and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So it's like part of that. It's kind of like crudely trying to imitate, you know, when you shine a flash or something at a, at a screen and it has this like blinks for a moment. That's cool with the interpreter. Yeah, he's here.


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[Assistant] Probably is. Yeah, I actually never watched Scarfield. Or read the comics. Wait, is it the cartoon, only the comics?


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[Assistant] It's like, was never part of my childhood or anything and I just know it from memes and it just made perfect sense because he is a furry person.


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[Assistant] It's, you're, you're a guest in this, in this house. Act accordingly. Just do it for the rest of the podcast. That's too late now. You should, you should, you should get it. You should, you should, you should do the same thing for all the podcasts.


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[Assistant] The deeper, uh, the deeper into it, I can say a more sort of provocative stuff because nobody's gonna reach those parts. Yeah, see that's a luxury you don't normally get. We can start sort of opening up slowly about everything which is, which we love about Elder Scrolls game series by Todd Howard.


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[Assistant] But, uh, longer videos, yeaah.


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[Assistant] It's in, look back, yea, but animation, longer videos, right? I don't know, there was a point when I started messaging Scott a lot. And because I was new to the amount of exposure I was getting compared to you at the time you like established.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I was sort of adopting still to...


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't know. Reading feedback and thinking of what I want to do. Yeah. And uh, compared to like early days when I had a smaller following.


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[Assistant] I know, much smaller following than that. But, uh, uh, I kind of was a little bit more interested in what people were interested in. And it's like the effort expanded as like the quality grew.


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[Assistant] Yes, it's our opinions like survival stuff, survival stuff. I think Scott put it really well, you were quoting like a book at me about don't, what was the word, don't be like a hack, I guess, towards yourself.


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[Assistant] It loops back, uh, it loops back into, into longer videos and YouTube algorithm. Because YouTube doesn't favor what I do at all, I think. It's, unless you hit a vein, sort of, unless you make something,


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[Assistant] Which is related to something which is really popular. It's not what YouTube deems profitable.


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[Assistant] Because if you look at the top of a crop, and this is like, it's the way the money goes. There's nothing you can do about it. So it kind of...


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[Assistant] Uh, becomes more about what I wanna do. You know?


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[Assistant] And I want you to mention it because like you mentioned the animators in the earlier days were kind of like more maybe, but everybody was definitely more profitable on the platform in the earlier days. I like how you never mentioned that. I begin to sound a little bit like a...


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[Assistant] Like, like, like a guy who's only interested in money now, because like, you never, never, ever, ever mention it, and it's your job, it's like your proper, because I cannot call the Mashanel my job, because...


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[Assistant] It's, uh, I still have to do like those animations for our people for money.


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[Assistant] But, so it like truly becomes, what do I really wanna do? But then the whole, uh, it still kinda, kinda can be.


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[Assistant] Uh, if not a job but like a support, right? And you kind of feel...


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[Assistant] Like hey, I'm putting so much into it. Would be nice to have both, you know, would be nice to have like an audience and...


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[Assistant] Like, new to all that, but I concluded that one of the main priorities is to do what you want, I guess. First, you know, the artistic vision and all that. Because like, I'm gonna look back and I'm gonna say, think like, I enjoyed it so much.


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[Assistant] And, uh, or doing something that has a little bit, or not, or has a, still has like enjoy, enjoyability, uh, aspect to it, but also potentially can hit a big audience.


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[Assistant] I mean, for you probably too, I do know, and I imagine, a lot of...


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[Assistant] People on the platform who just run it, it's like pure business, you know? Like, the past buy time is like hobbies are just, I don't know, chilling somewhere, do nothing really. So that is like pure work. Or like, it's enjoyable work still and maybe we enjoy it, but.


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[Assistant] You know, all the, all the good stuff, all the clickbaity stuff, all the lengthy...


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[Assistant] Stuff that thrives off what is already accumulated. And, uh, it's like purely business. Because I cannot imagine somebody doing that and like...


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[Assistant] Uh, having passion for it. You do have passion for aspects of it, but, so I think like a platform kind of, uh,


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[Assistant] I found, I guess, my style or my format for what I do now. And I was really, because I did like music for a while before it, it's all about like performance element, it's all about wanting an audience. And like before I had even my early days audience, I was trying


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[Assistant] Yeah, so it was always some things, maybe even unlisted things. There was some attempts that were purely me sort of thinking, hey, what if I jump on this trend? What if I do this? Everybody probably, maybe not you guys, I don't know, but you hear a lot of those stories.


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[Assistant] That's why people try different things because certain things, uh,


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[Assistant] Set to, to work, and it's incredibly dissatisfying to do something because you thought it's, not because it's like your original new idea, but because you thought it's gonna work.


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[Assistant] And when it doesn't, and you don't have the satisfaction of having produced something for you, having produced something that is, you can look back on it and think, oh damn, that's a nice cake.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. I love it. I love it. First I'm gonna ask, did you know about it? You didn't, right? After Palinal, you discovered that and you didn't hear that stuff before Palinal.


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[Assistant] After Pellanoia. Yeah. It was like my first Elder Scrolls influenced.


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[Assistant] I guess, like, sort of splash into a pond.


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[Assistant] I was so excited about it. It was like the last time I asked people, what do you want?


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[Assistant] What inspired it is the photo of one and only Michael Kirkbride pointing some steampunk looking gun into the camera and somebody captioning it


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[Assistant] Jim, do you understand it or something like that? As a reference to Pulp Fiction and English, do you speak it?


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[Assistant] Like with Pulp Fiction sort of theme song and all that. And I did more thing. And I, I, I initially kinda wanted to share it. Like a super small Russian lore community on.


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[Assistant] I decided I'm gonna exploit that and expand it. And it was so themed.


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[Assistant] And even back when I was thinking, what is this? It's like, how much deeper can you dig? And like how much smaller can you make this? Like, it's an obscure, no, I mean at the time Skyrim was quite popular, right? It was like the high days of Skyrim. But it's like surf rock music.


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[Assistant] If you heard it, all of it, it sort of changed on the second track like right away immediately because I couldn't, I think it's like a common theme for me. Like I cannot, if there is a format, it's more about the level of effort and like visuals, original visuals and original music, it's not so much about


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[Assistant] One aesthetic or one sound in particular. I mean, obviously I repeat myself a lot. You have your habits. You can't escape them entirely.


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[Assistant] But, uh, so like VVServe stuff, the second thing that I made for it was way less popular than the first one. Because I did something more for me, and for me I wanted to do something differently. I did the Skyrim one with Dragonborn, seriously.


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[Assistant] And, uh, among the people who said that it was Owen, I didn't know the guy at the time, I just saw it on Facebook because I was googling myself.


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[Assistant] I was, I was very new to it all. And I kind of shared it jokingly. And yeah, it's how we became friends. He did not like the second track, but I made it because of a photo and it was just an interesting experiment, I guess.


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[Assistant] And also like I felt like, at the time, partly inspired by seeing a response, seeing a reaction. For the first time on that scale, even smaller scale compared to now, but...


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[Assistant] I really like, I guess a lot of people like the last one, the one that doesn't sound like surf music at all, the one with, for the Oriel Ascension. The Oriel Ascension one?


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[Assistant] But, it's, it's really cool that since those days, there were like a couple of people who followed me because of that. And like, we're still like...


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[Assistant] Maybe it's, I dunno, maybe there's some deep lore thing about why he wanted the Dwemer puzzle box. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I reckon someone came up with a theory once about him.


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[Assistant] Is that like a text with a Vivequery like literally pushes a continent maybe? I feel like that's some weird stuff that we're, that Korg brought to write about.


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[Assistant] That's what I was thinking. It's, it's literally a metaphor for the devs. Cause when you look at, uh, Daggerfall and stuff, there's a bunch of gods that are never mentioned again. And it's, the devs are the belief system. The devs forgot about them. Therefore it's gone.


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[Assistant] I have zero. It's like a company that sends me, um, letters about changing my internet.


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[Assistant] Is there a dragon in Break Theory about Talos? Where all these things happened and then they all merged into the one Talos when the timeline came back?


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[Assistant] I feel like this one's pretty whack. It just sounds a bit silly to me. Yeah, trying to justify that at all. I'm like, I can't be bothered. That's just ridiculous.


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[Assistant] Wasn't there a thing in vanilla Skyrim, male orcs didn't have nipples? Really? Did I invent that? I can't remember.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, well, I mean, there's only one picture of a mail walk, put it that way. The rest. I mean, what did you expect?


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[Assistant] The Reach DLC. The Greymoor stuff. Yeah, the Greymoor's last bit. What the hell is it called? Markarth? Is it just called Markarth?


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[Assistant] The main questler, yea him, he lost his ability to get his spirit sword up.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? He's having some man issues. And then he finds out that some ancient, uh, Yakuuden dude also had this problem and he came to Skyrim.


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[Assistant] Oh man, it's so bad. Who was it? Red Eagle? Red Eagle taught this dude.


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[Assistant] That like, if he just thinks about love and everything he cares about, he can get his sword back up.


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[Assistant] And it's like this weird, really goofy, like, um, red eagle, that brutal reachman.


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[Assistant] And then he gets his sword up, then this red garden game gets his sword up too. And the whole thing was like, oh, this made, it made all these like cool characters and cool concepts. Just like this weird G rated Disney film. I'm like, ugh, yuck.


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[Assistant] And then he's like, Oh my God, my spirit soul. And Titus Liriborne's like, give me a jump on that.


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[Assistant] I just remember, I remember what had happened and I was like, ugh.


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[Assistant] Is it literally like the helmets in game look like shit? What, like in oblivion everyone wears turd helmets?


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[Assistant] So I remember this, it was in a, it was a sixth house space in Morrowinds and there's


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[Assistant] I can't, it's one of those Dunmer, you know, the ancient Dunmer strongholds, the fortresses, the kind of just like rectangle things. Um, in the sewers, there's a bunch of chairs that are stacked up and there's, I think it's an ash skull or an ash slave or whatever.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure if it's just that one in the sewer or if they're like, you can sneak up to any of them and they'll say it, but.


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[Assistant] Cause that's more accurate.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's true. Didn't she also screw him? They were married, were they not?


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[Assistant] I was thinking that, she was too busy screwing everyone else. Literally a metaphor.


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[Assistant] Because the word morrow means... Does that mean tomorrow? They used to say that in medieval times, on the morrow.


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[Assistant] How much time does Kirkbrite have on his hands? I don't understand.


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[Assistant] I think it was, the antagonist of the DLC was an ancient Yukurin vampire, and he came to the Reach looking to fix his sword, his spirit sword issue.


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[Assistant] And then what's his name? The red guard with the big beard finds that out and like retraces his steps, finds the cave and he's like, dude, red eagle was like a hippie man. And then they all get their big swords up together.


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[Assistant] Oh, what happened? Did I drop out? Did you drop out?


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[Assistant] I was saying, I think there's two in-game, right? And there's the first Pocket Guide to the Empire and the third one. First and third. And I spent so long looking for the second one, like it didn't even occur to me that it wouldn't be in a game.


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[Assistant] I don't remember what video I was making, but I found something I needed in the second Pocket Guide to the Empire. And I was like, oh, I'll just jump in game and get some footage of it. I spent like three hours searching all the games and like the files and stuff. I was like, where the, where is this thing? And then I dug deep and was like, it doesn't exist. I'm like, oh my God.


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[Assistant] Should I stop googling? That sounds ridiculous. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Should I say there or not really? Is there anything there or is it just literally counts as small sum?


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[Assistant] Oh, apparently there's a restoration spell called Skylamps Shadow that's in the game.


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[Assistant] Uh, increases your speed.


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[Assistant] So you can run away, I guess. Cause there's, you get this shadow on you and you go.


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[Assistant] There's always, those books mention like a hundred odd factions. You know?


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[Assistant] I can't think of a single example of time control, or possible time control.


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[Assistant] Maybe that's okay. I think because so in the Elder Scrolls, the coral is sentient and Thras had the coral tower at least. And I don't know if Thras is made of coral, but if it is, it could potentially be a sentient city if it's made of sentient coral. Yeah. The sentient land coral.


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[Assistant] Not even that, like what's the cost to you?


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[Assistant] That's the female invisible dragons that fix time wounds that are warring with the Hist and the Ninth Era. There you go. What is that text actually from? Is it just called Kinmune? Probably. Okay.


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[Assistant] Oh, he so was. He's shifting blame.


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[Assistant] I guess I, I don't know, I can't read. It's like Hercules and a Kaleidoscope.


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[Assistant] If it was like a Greek dude, I would imagine Kaleidocles.


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[Assistant] I think in cold harbour you meet the last king of the aliens who looks like an elf and he's not a bird person. So I'd imagine they literally weren't bird people.


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[Assistant] Like, uh, hardest to find unique items in Oblivion.


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[Assistant] And both of those statues have a weapon that drops each. I think one's a mace, one's a sword. But to get, you have to do all this crazy stuff to get it. Cause if you pick it up, it disintegrates in your inventory. And there's at least like, it takes like 20 minutes to do this method to get the two weapons. And they're the two hardest to get weapons in the game. No, they're terrible.


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[Assistant] I don't know. But that guy's, uh, his name.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I don't know what that means. Lurkan's heart at the egg of time, what about it?


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[Assistant] I feel like it's too specific to not have some like a reason that it's there.


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[Assistant] Uh, damn. I was hoping for some funny book from Daggerfall or something, but. Well, that's a yikes for me guys. Let's move on.


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[Assistant] I think- I don't ever remember anyone saying it in Elder Scrolls Online, but I think they say Dwemer.


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[Assistant] Because what happened was the, like, cause all the games didn't have much voice acting. In Morrowind, Azir does his speech when you kill Degothur, and she says like the failed folly of the Dwemer.


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[Assistant] Right, and that's where you got it. And then in Skyrim, when you talk to Falion,


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[Assistant] The guy in, uh, Morthal, right? He says that he's met, he's met the, he says he's met them and he calls them the Dwemer. So like the two characters that say their name and who have actually met them, both say Dwemer.


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[Assistant] City of Rock Creek. That's from, it's from a book in Daggerfall, I'm pretty sure. I was reading that recently.


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[Assistant] When I was, I made a video recently, 10 rare Elder Scrolls creatures, and this book's got a wombat in it.


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[Assistant] It's an imperial town in Black Marsh that gets cursed and a plague comes and a witch curses the town and all the businesses leave and the lord's like, oh no, my town. And his daughter has a magical wombat.


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[Assistant] And he's like, Mr. Wombat, please, I just want, uhm, I just want one business to stay in my town and never leave. And the Wombat's like, well, you've always been a shithead to me, so.


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[Assistant] He builds this, uh, business at like in like the gate of the town and then everyone gets stuck inside the fortress and they can't leave because his business is in the way for eternity. Um, and I think they all eat each other.


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[Assistant] There's the god of animals in Daggerfall called Aegis, or Ius, and the wombat was like, his right hand man. Look, I think it's good that


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[Assistant] It sounds like an unusual description for...


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[Assistant] Maybe anyone that levitates is a UFO because it's banned. They're like, what could that be? Well, yeah, if it's unidentified flying thermal, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Oh, here we go. The adamantius scroll rocket. Yeah, I have no clue.


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[Assistant] Is it like the adamantium tower is of a rocket?


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[Assistant] No, I thought you meant it like as when you were a kid. Ah, I used to eat moths. He's a lover. Yeah. Moth eaters. Kleksa graphic league.


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[Assistant] And it was that word and I kept saying, uh, kaleidoscopic and I was like, I know that's not it. I don't know what it is. Oh, sorry. I know what it is. Okay.


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[Assistant] Hang on, wait a sec, so wait, I was right about shouting with the king's car.


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[Assistant] I was thinking that, don't you like, become an avatar of him?


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[Assistant] That's like me trying to fix my Skyrim mods. They're like, oh, here's a link to this mod that fixes it and you click it, it's good. This mod's been deleted.


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[Assistant] Oh, I think it might be to do with how like all the dragons vanished and then when Alduin comes back, they're like, oh, there's actually all these dragons that never went away. It's like, oh, they're just invisible the whole time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was going to say, what does that mean? There's like multi-dimensions and creatures coming through all the time and God's sucking through space and time. What would, what would be an alien within the Elder Scrolls?


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[Assistant] Or like the Eucudans coming from a- Previous couple. Like a uni- yeah, like a separate universe thing. That's pretty alien.


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[Assistant] Well, they're both elves. They're both mer, so I guess they are related, but.


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[Assistant] I am forever swimming around amidst the ocean world we call home. My limbs grow weak and weary as my eyes drift skyward into feet. I remember how warm the earth felt as I lived and breathed next to her beating heart.


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[Assistant] Is it maybe the dude, one of the dudes that turned into the ruddy man who was a human and then transformed into a dreg dude.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what I understand. The dream doesn't exist without the dreamer, but the dreamer doesn't exist without the dream. That's how I understand that.


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[Assistant] I was gonna say, whoever made this loves Fargoth, because we got Fargoth as Vivek, we got Fargothur on the side. More Fargoth, it's all Fargoth.


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[Assistant] I think there's a bunch of bones that like, like suggesting sacrifices have been made there, but there's also a cave entrance filled with Falmer like right across from it. So I feel like the Falmer might be doing that.


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[Assistant] Oh, I think the Temple of Srib is a, is a sub location within the Sightless Pit. Yes.


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[Assistant] There's a few, yeah, there's in oblivion, especially like they'll create a space and then put a few different cells in the one space. I don't know if it's to save, I don't know if you like, if, if loading a cell this big, but you've got a space this big, if it's more efficient to put a bunch of different cells in that same space. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I'm not really- Did they go from Calpa to Calpa, destroying everything? Like a virus?


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[Assistant] I had a theory that's, cause Lorkhan is Shor, or Shor is Lorkhan, right? In, uh, what's his totem, the fox? And then Kinnareth's totem is, is the bird. And when you go to Sovereign Guard, the Hall of Valor, whatever it's called, is covered in bird motifs. And I was like, maybe it's like the Taj Mahal. He built this thing.


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[Assistant] Do you reckon Kirkbride snaked it from some Turkish thing? I know a lot of his writings are like based on Middle Eastern and Asian mythology and stuff.


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[Assistant] Okay, for this, you need to find the picture of the statue, cause it's legit, just a zero.


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[Assistant] Right, like a, like a sperm bank. Yea, it's got like a sperm bank on the boot. Alright, what about manaman?


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[Assistant] He was buying some Swedish Rominelli, and uh. Anyway, Rominelli.


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[Assistant] Cause it was written about before that and it was just called Skyrim.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I do. I asked, I asked a dev on Twitter if there was, I went through the Scaram's credits and found every dev I could on Twitter and asked them all. I'm like, hey, I'm making a video about the bugs and jars. Is there any meaning behind them?


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[Assistant] And all these dudes were just like, can't say, can't say, can't say. And then this one dude's like, yeah, yeah, no, it's nothing. It was just, uh, some cut content. There's nothing, there's nothing secret.


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[Assistant] And then I went, I made a video about it and I went to ask him another question and he blocked me. So I think his answer was legit. And then he like got in trouble with the other devs or something.


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[Assistant] Oh yeah, it, it, I mean you can, you can join them all together and it makes like a, like a kind of 3D pyramid thing. And then of course I slapped a big Illuminati meme over the top of that. But I've got a whole video on it if you want to waste your time watching that.


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[Assistant] Wait, does that mean they were the dreamer and became in the dream? Is that what that's saying?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we've covered this. We've covered this. I thought this briefly was your bottom, but okay.


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[Assistant] Yes, the god of fate and prophecy, which is very important in the Elder Scrolls universe. So who's going to take it away first?


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[Assistant] It's one of those situations where if you're a good follower and you show her admiration, then, yea, things tend to go pretty well for you, but if you, if you follow her and then you betray her, that's basically the worst thing you can do in her eyes, is she doesn't like betray her when she will come down on you like a ton of bricks if you do. So she's not the nicest.


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[Assistant] It sounds fantastic, and to be honest compared to most Daedric Princes it is, but it seems like it could be very easy to wrong her.


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[Assistant] Well that's the thing, when, when the Kaima very, you know, first made the move and became the change, changed ones, it was Azura who showed them how to be different from the Ultimate, like how to change their skin. So essentially,


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[Assistant] She's, she's the reason they turn gold, and she's also the reason they turn ashen skin and red eyes, and it's a perfect example of what it, what it means to betray her, you know, the, these, uh,


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[Assistant] You see how, how complete the punishment is. It affects more than just them, it affects the entire race.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well she builds a- she builds relationships of trust with the people who follow her, because if she wants their love and admiration, and she wants them to love and admire themselves, then there needs to be something more than just that kind of like, you know, business relationship, or however else you want to look at it with gods and Daedra.


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[Assistant] It's, it's something more emotional and, and you know, and then, and another example of what you were just talking about is there's a story of a Dwemer lecturer who wanted to make a show to his class basically that


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[Assistant] That the, the Daedra and the gods, they're not completely infallible, and even though...


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[Assistant] Azura is right in this situation. She's tricked into thinking she was wrong. She was basically, what happened was this Dwemer asked a close friend who was a Kaima priest to, to invoke Azura and Azura came and the Dwemer's like, what's in this box? And she says, um, she thought it was a trick and she was a little bit untrusting. And then she said, there's a rose in the box.


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[Assistant] And she's right, there is, but this Dwemer pulls a little trick, a sleight of hand trick, and shows that there's nothing in there. And she, she feels betrayed by it. So this guy then, you know, goes back to his rooms, and the rose slips out of his sleeve, proving that it was there, he just wanted to trick her.


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[Assistant] And what does he get? Well, he gets killed. You know, he dies in his sleep for betraying her, which is, you know, that's the thing is she's very willing to trust.


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[Assistant] And to take it to another level, not only did you betray her and she's like an ex, you literally killed her favourite mortal, you know, the three of them, foul-murdered Nerevar, who's her champion, and you know, there's the really cool piece of artwork, which I'm sure you'll put up at this point as well for the foul-murdering.


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[Assistant] When she's also, she can also be extremely brutal. There's an even more brutal example if we look at the Kajiti myths, which I'm skipping ahead, but we'll definitely talk more about all of it.


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[Assistant] But there's the example of Magrus, which is the Khajiit version of Magnus. Uh, the sun god, but to the Khajiit, rather than him leaving or fleeing and tearing a rift in the sky.


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[Assistant] And, he lost an eye, and then went to visit Azura, and Azura considered him too cowardly to rule his own sphere, so took out the other eye, fashioned it into an aether prism, and made it the sun, so that it could reflect aphirious's, uhm, his light down onto the, to the mortal realm. So, that's pretty brutal.


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[Assistant] Which is why she's often considered, you know, we, we mentioned it in the last podcast as well, the urdra. So, you know, these, these original very primordial, um, entities and,


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[Assistant] If you think about it, in so many different ways, she's fundamental, because, you know, if we look at the interplay between Anu and Padamai, the god of change and the god of stasis, and you've got the ineffable light and the, you know, the darkness and the shadows created, and then you get linear, you get the passage of time, and if you think about the


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[Assistant] If you think about the moon and the sun passing around the sky, not only is that the passage of time, but it's also, you know, creates the shadows for mortals and-


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[Assistant] And uhm, she's kinda just fundamental to pretty much every part of creation in the mortal realm.


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[Assistant] And liminal barriers is another term used for the lunar lattice, which is something that Azura creates in the Kijiti.


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[Assistant] So when I think of the magic in between the realms of Twilight, I quite literally think of the magic in between


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[Assistant] So it's mentioned that when Azura came along to create the Khajiit from these forest people, she passed between the moons, she whispered the secret words of the moons and passes through the liminal barriers. So when I think of her magic between realms of twilight, I imagine it's the magic that


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[Assistant] You can pass through from Mundus into Oblivion and Ophirius and just outside of the mortal realm.


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[Assistant] You know, I'll, I'll, I'll narrow it down because it's quite a long story, but essentially you've got, you've got Anur and Fademeier. I'll probably mix up between the Khajiit words for it and the, the other ones, but essentially Anur and Fademeier, the, the, the primordial cat to give birth to three litters, and the third of these litters


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[Assistant] Is, uh, was not quite so consensual. Fatimae tricked Anna into impregnating her. And this is when you get the mo- the moons and their motions, you get Nerni and you get Azura, and they're the- the sisters who are essentially, like, vying for Fatimae's favour.


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[Assistant] And when she's on her deathbed, she essentially gives a gift to Nerny saying, you'll give birth to the world and all the peoples on it. Whereas to Azura, she gives her secrets and the ability to change one of these.


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[Assistant] Peoples into the fastest, cleverest, most deceptive and the best climbers and all of this and that's how she creates the Khajiit.


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[Assistant] And the idea is that when she puts in place this lunar lattice, which is essentially a very similar concept to the idea of, you know, Akatosh's barrier between Mundus and Oblivion is it's supposed to protect the mortal realm from the gods meddling with them.


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[Assistant] And, yeaah, so Azura is quite literally fundamental to them, and, and, and she, she sets the moons in their motions, therefore giving them the light to create their moonsugar. So in every way, she's at the core of their culture.


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[Assistant] Yeah, see and because of that role she, she takes, she has so many interactions with other gods because it's, it's all of these gods finding their place and, and you know, you've got like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, piece of information which I think is really cool is that there's a, because Lorcage is the, is the kind of the last cat given birth to by Anuram Fadami. It's kind of the, you know, the,


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[Assistant] What's the, what's the word, the ugly duckling, the kind of forgotten one, and there's a point where...


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[Assistant] Uhm, Azura finds Lorcage with his chest torn open.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and it's dripping dark- his heart is dripping darkness, and Azura essentially extricates this darkness from his chest, which is Namira, and- and throws it away from Lorcage, which is very similar to the idea of Oriëlle ripping out Lorcan's heart.


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[Assistant] And if you think about it through that lens, you can see why Azura would have


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[Assistant] Extra reason to hate the idea of her favourite mortals channeling the heart of Lorcan.


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[Assistant] You know, and the oath that Nerevar and the Tribunal make to her is important for more than the reasons we already, you know, associate it with.


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[Assistant] Really cool perceptions of her. Yeah, she's got relationships with so many gods.


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[Assistant] And, you know, she's been there for a long time, she's considered an urdra, and being associated with prophecies is, as I mentioned at the beginning of the podcast, is about as fundamental of a thing to be associated with as anything, and you know, the Nerevarine prophecy that takes place during the events of Morrowind.


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[Assistant] Well, just one cool thing about moon and stars, you can imagine Cagrinac.


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[Assistant] He's got good reason to give that to someone he's in a good relationship with, you know, it's like their, their relationship is very important to, um, amicable relations between the Dwemer and the Kaima. So giving him a ring that makes him more persuasive and, and, you know, more likely to hold his, his position of power, um, is a good idea if you're friends with him.


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[Assistant] And you've got a couple, I think, that are supposedly made by witches and, you know, like, ehm, yeah. Which who may be a different prince.


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[Assistant] And then, well yea, simply the fact that you can, you can have it corrupted into the black star is also a good parallel to, you know, the relationship we're talking about with Azura and, you know, being betrayed, you know, you can actually get something better out of it.


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[Assistant] We made a recent video basically saying, in a lore perspective,


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[Assistant] Betraying her is probably worse than getting a slightly better artifact, because you know what can happen to you.


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[Assistant] Well, you get it for killing Dagoth Ur, right? So uhm, I wonder what your gift would have been if you just listened to him and sided with him.


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[Assistant] Well, it's funny how much Azura loves, um, you know, like being loyal and, and showing your love and affection. And then you've got Mafala, the other good Deidre, who's teaching all these Kaima to assassinate each other and betray each other and all of this. It's a, you know. Yeah, she seems quite nice by comparison, doesn't she?


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[Assistant] We think Bethesda will do is too hard a parameter cause otherwise it's not an interesting discussion cause


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[Assistant] I feel like they kind of got to just do what they did with Skyrim and just do it again. Like I don't, I don't expect anything more than that, but we want to talk about things that they could do. You know, that within reason, which I think is.


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[Assistant] There's, you can't, you can't, like, as much as it's like, oh, you can have it all, you, you can't really, like, they're not gonna ever do it.


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[Assistant] You can't have it all. You can't have like 50 different factions all with huge amounts of choice and everything. So I think like you can kind of go inwards, so you can kind of have like a warrior faction, mage faction. It's just like they have now, but you give them way more choice over direction and path and stuff that it can go and turn out as, or you can just go the other route and have just more choice of faction. Sort of like, I guess the whole,


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[Assistant] The difference between the choice of path, like, oh, what you want to go do and be versus the choice of like, um. Changing the deal.


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[Assistant] And to be honest, what Bethesda, I think for, you know, in the past has been most comfortable with is just going straight in a straight line. So sometimes I'm sort of like, what might fit better is actually just go do a straight guild, like just have a few more.


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[Assistant] Like some people shy away from the idea of getting them too, like having factions too politically, um, involved or like having a cultural sort of set of things. So, so for example, the Thieves Guild is very neutral and it's like, yeah, yeah, go be thieves or whatnot. And you've got, you know, um, the College of Winterhold and Majors Guild sort of similar themes.


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[Assistant] To be honest, a lot of people's favorite, the Dark Brotherhood, is a very, as much as it's like, you know, lots of different people from different walks of life, it's very like, evil in the terms of the conventional sense. It's got a, like a moral or cultural prescription that it's going for.


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[Assistant] And I think that's successful because I feel like people feel more attached to things that kind of like, yeah, it's fun to role play some evil murder or something. So in the same way, instead of having this sort of generic sort of one size fits all guild.


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[Assistant] Like, you know, you could even say, like, we're talking about with the companions is the companions, they, they kind of meshed into this. Yeah. And then they become so vague. I was like, oh no. Or it's like, are they really, you know, hyper Nordic and it's like, kind of like not really, whereas it'd be far more interesting to have a more, um, convicted.


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[Assistant] You know, anyone fits kind of thing too much. You can, you know, to varying degrees, but you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Yeah, kinda like a faction of court wizard kind of like. Exactly, exactly.


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[Assistant] Okay, there's the Thieves Guild, and what's appealing about the Thieves Guild, it's like going off and stealing big things and being like, yea, I'm a thief or so on. But it's like, what would you actually get from creating another Thieves Guild that's maybe slightly different? Like, not much. Like, there's not a lot of, like, valuable roleplaying necessary, so it would be better to-


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[Assistant] You know, for warrior guilds, you could absolutely have some bloodthirsty sort of mercenary guild or something like, doesn't have to be bloodthirsty versus like a knightly order, which in essence is a like warrior guild, but it's going to feel completely different. The nature of the quests and the characters and.


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[Assistant] That, uh, you know, are in the faction and so on and you know, same as like joining.


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[Assistant] Cult of necromancers versus like some kind of like majors guild type-esque thing. Like that's where it benefits from having different like views, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause I think the reality of it is too, is like a lot of people, even when they do play RPGs and stuff that have choice and consequence, even if they're going to do it once, like part of the fun is like comparing it to other people and being like, oh, this is what happened for me. And so when it feels kind of like your own unique experience of the way things went and that's the appeal. Whereas if everyone ultimately.


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[Assistant] It's, do you know what I mean? Like they shouldn't facilitate that as much. I feel like they should just go and like, cause I, this is, I guess this is what I sort of feel about like Bethesda's design philosophy throughout recent games is,


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[Assistant] The, they're afraid of giving the players like opportunity costs. They're like consequences. They like want all the choices, but they're like really skittish around consequences. Like, you know, everything, reset the perks. There's nothing too bad. Um, no big drawbacks or positives for being picking certain races. Like anything that's like locked in.


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[Assistant] Is really like, yeah, they really don't want to look here. And like, I understand that the point of it is free freedom and so on, but like sometimes like people.


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[Assistant] People care about Stormcloaks vs Imperials or Dawnguard vs Vampires, no one cares about the companions because it's stale and it's straightforward, there's nothing. Like, so, if you could pick


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[Assistant] Um, why like something as simple as like ranks and having that there, it's play of feedback. It gives you the idea. It's like, yay, you got the achievement. You're here now and you've got that kind of like, you're a.


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[Assistant] You know, putting in consequences earlier instead. Like so, so I guess what you're trying to say, instead of like a binary, it's just like, I'll pick one side of this binary line. It's just like there's lots of individual quest lines, but they sort of mesh and then some things will cancel out another. Like, you know, maybe if you're up to like rank seven, say in this thing, it's got a quest that will lock you out of this guild. But it should, it shouldn't be.


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[Assistant] You know? And I, I feel like too, like just as a general sort of, um, point to mention about like opportunity cost and stuff in games. Like cost, you know how like value of something, it kind of like what you had to give up to get it increases like the enjoyment of, of the thing or whatever. So, you know, when you spend a lot of money on something really nice. Mistakes. Yeah. So, so it's kind of like when you, um,


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[Assistant] There's a, you know, if you had to make a certain choice to get say a Daedric artifact or something like that, when it comes back, you,


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[Assistant] You sort of want to like have to justify like, you know, some of those fun choice, they, people like Stormcloaks or Versus Imperials. So people want to make their choice and they made their choice and they want to justify it and weigh out the different things and same with like Parthenax, like should you kill him or should you not and stuff like that. Whereas like, I feel like that's what's one of the most exciting things.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like imagine if you had to choose between like being a vampire and it's like, if you're a vampire, you can't do like this temp, templar guild or something like that. Like, and it becomes that sort of thing. Like, you know, what do you want to do? Or just, you know, imagine even a werewolf scenario or something. If you're a lycanthrope, you can't.


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[Assistant] They absolutely should implement at the very least some sort of like, you know, the winter sun mod, like basically like they really should put in gameplay functions, um, for like worship and stuff of gods and stuff.


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[Assistant] To be in, I guess, Bethesda's favour too, like, it sounds crazy, but like they haven't tried their hand at an RPG really since Fallout 4. And Fallout 4 did have multiple factions that you could sort of choose in different outcomes and so on, so it wasn't like, uhm,


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[Assistant] Like in their main story or so on. So I feel like maybe they might, you know, for High Rock or something, it's very easy to go, or even Hammerfell to like get behind certain kingdoms or so on, like have sort of, you know, three or four different factions that can kind of do the main story in different ways or measure or so on. I feel like that's a very safe and easy way to get people.


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[Assistant] Uhm, to get Bethesda to do the, um, choices and consequences by implementing it to the main story. Cause the biggest thing, I guess their problem from like a,


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[Assistant] And that's the thing too, with the rewards too. It's like, imagine if, you know, you told someone, it's like, oh, you have to choose between Mehrunes Razor or the Mace of Mo'like Baal. Just in the sort of like, you know, discussions and like, you know, videos.


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[Assistant] Yeah, on the, on the topic of, like, obviously, uhm, on multiple factions and that kind of thing, on the topic of, uhm, like, sort of like having a political stance or cultural stance, like all of these different factions in, in-universe, I mean, uhm,


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[Assistant] What do you sort of think about kind of integrating them all with the main storyline? Like, so in the way that you know how there are factions in Fallout 4, and even New Vegas and stuff, like all the factions are somewhat integrated or tied to the main storyline. They don't live in this sort of separate vacuum. And even if you go to Morrowind, you can sit at like House Lalu, right around,


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[Assistant] They do have, they're intertwined more so in the main, like,


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[Assistant] I guess like a thematic story of the entire thing. Like, I feel like that might be a better move.


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[Assistant] But outside of that, like College Windhold's mostly in a vacuum, I guess Dark Brotherhood assassinates the Emperor at the end, which is decent. But for the most part, they're all in these tight little vacuums, whereas, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well maybe if they did go for something a bit more, I think ultimately too, and this is what High Rock and Hammerfell is really good for, in terms of like, factions relevant to the main story, they can absolutely have more than just like a 2, like a binary, like they could have, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, uh, in high rock, especially cause you got like the five, whatever kingdoms and, you know, and there's hammer fell, you could have like crowns, four bears, you can have like a synium or, you know.


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[Assistant] You know, not every individual kingdom is going to agree, but having that in the mixture, uhm, I think works well. And you know what? It might actually be interesting even if you thought about it as like the largest sort of like kingdom factions and stuff like that up here. And then I don't want to call them minor factions, but then you can have like the sort of mid-range factions.


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[Assistant] But like, you know, it might be your typical sort of mages guild type things or your, uhm,


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[Assistant] Or fighter skill type things, but you could have like...


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[Assistant] The fighters guild or whatever, and they're really pro, I mean a generic fighters guild, and like a lot of their members, like say 70% or 80% of their members are really like pro.


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[Assistant] You know, this one kingdom or instead really anti one of the kingdoms or something. It might like.


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[Assistant] It would just be interesting to have characters that might help influence your choice or so on. It's like, oh, I want to, I want to help this kingdom. Like there might be two options, but you like pick this one because you're like, oh, all my fighters guild buddies don't like this. Like I just thought, you know, then you're having both.


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[Assistant] I mean, this is going ages back, but it's kind of like Morrowind, like how you could have a Redoran Stronghold or a Halalu Stronghold or a Telvanni Tower essentially. It's like, and you build it over time with your resources and so on and, and as certain ranks and so on, but like it's, it is that kind of thing that makes you feel, you know.


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[Assistant] Anyway, I always, this is just made me think of something, like, always before with Skyrim I was like, oh, maybe you shouldn't be like, get to the rank of Yarl or something like that. I, the only thing I was thinking is like, I mentioned just use Skyrim as an example because we're all familiar with it, but do you know how they just replace the characters with, so say you can become, uhm, you know, they, they replace the,


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[Assistant] Yeah. And if, if also, but the reason too, it's like somewhat you can, it's not like, oh, it would be every single place. Like say it's only the small cities. So say it's like Morthal or Falkreath and it's only like one of them or whatever. Like you could deny Falkreath and then accept Morthal when it's offered. And it, on the reverse, it could be like, you know, um, Winterhold or, uh, let's


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[Assistant] See, the one thing I think that they might, and this is a gamey thing, is because they considered it for Skyrim. Like Skyrim, I think there's even unused game file, um, audio lines and stuff like that about the Dragonborn being able to become the High King.


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[Assistant] As like one of the auctions or something, and I know also in Fallout 4, they, you were gonna be able to be the leader of the brotherhood of steel, but they scrapped it last minute to become like the new elder or whatever.


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[Assistant] I, I sometimes I'm torn on it, but it's like sometimes there'd be really cool character role-playing things there. Like what I would hate, what I would hate about it is if it was like this really forced kind of thing, like you end up, like if you complete the main story, you're king kind of vibe. Whereas if they did it in a way that it was an optional path in the same way that you can become thing or if you can become.


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[Assistant] I just, I still can't believe, like, RPGs are so doing away with it. Like, what's wrong with it? Outer Worlds did it today, like.


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[Assistant] But like, what's wrong with reputation meat? Like, reputation things or faction, you know, or ranks and stuff. Like, but just, just feedback. People like to be able to open the menu. Like, in the same way you like to be able to open the menu and see that you're level 30 and your health's this and your attributes are this. Like, you know, the rest of it. And it's so simple in terms of like, you know.


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[Assistant] If it's the kind of situation where you can make everyone kumbaya,


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[Assistant] Not doing it doesn't feel like a choice. It feels like, oh, you just stuffed it up. Yeah. Kind of. Do you know what I mean? Whereas I don't want it, I don't want all of the choice to be like, oh, you can fail it and stuff it up. Like I don't care if you can fail a mission. That's not exciting to me. It just means, yeah, I could fail. What's exciting is when you actually have to pick, there are two succeed states.


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[Assistant] And one of them is this way and this ideology and one of them's this way or you know what I mean or different sort of.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's in, it's, you know, and, you know, like you're saying, like, uhm, even if it's just, it can, sometimes it doesn't have to be, like you were saying, it doesn't have to be diametrically opposed to another faction. You pick one, it can just be like, you know, you pick one and later on it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, closes you out of another one because you end up killing some character that's important to it or, or what not. Like, yeaah.


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[Assistant] But like the intentional choice too, cause people, cause they hear the consequence part and they go like, oh, so the consequences you can fail state or lose, but it's like,


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[Assistant] That's not the consequence is like the opportunity cost of like picking one over the other because you made an intentional choice. It wasn't a difference between an intentional choice and a failure. It's like two intentional choices picked.


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[Assistant] Like I remember in cyberpunk, uhm, like you do side quests and you can just stuff it up and fail it. And it's like, oh, okay, you failed it. But it's like, what did you actually m-


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[Assistant] And that's because it actually creates, like, it's roleplaying consequences, like an actual thing rather than just, just...


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's the, um, it's, it's the actual opportunity cost, but there's got to be an opportunity on the other side, not just a nothing.


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[Assistant] But, what's gonna happen if I'm actually a betting man is dark brotherhood, thieves guild, uhm, and they might do something interesting for like a warrior or a mages guild. Or...


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[Assistant] Or they might just return the Major's Guild and Fighter's Guild, because that would be a change up even from Skyrim.


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[Assistant] My, my, my take on that is I would actually be well on the hype train that woah, it's gonna be like the most biggest, amazing, craziest thing ever. But what worries me is there's this giant starfield project in the middle of it. Like if they'd been working on Elder Scrolls 6 since like 2015 or whatever and then to now, like I would be hyped.


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[Assistant] I mean, I obviously am hyped, but I mean, it's like, I would expect- You'd have higher expectations.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but somehow I feel like Starfield is, they've gotta do some stuff with that, and I, as if, you know, this is like any company that they're gonna do, they're gonna do stuff in Starfield, and if those things do well or are poorly received, they will adjust Elder Scrolls 6 accordingly in areas of things that they've tried.


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[Assistant] Well, the thing is they've been keeping the Elder Scrolls IP alive with Elder Scrolls in line. That's what that's been there for. But it's like, I can't wait and I wish that they would take that IP and sometimes like, you know, spread it to some other people. Like, you know, like the Arkane Studios, like- I think they will do that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I would be so down for just more, um, like, you know, there's MMO and everything, but like, oh, let's be real.


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[Assistant] Do you know what though? I also thought that you, you get some really good game stuff. Like when you give other companies the, you know, the IP to work on and if they're all under the same sort of Microsoft umbrella.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and it makes, like, financial sense. It's just like, look at, for example, like, Knights of the Old Republic was given to Bioware, and Bioware, like, had never made any Star Wars games or affiliation with before, great game. Then, it's given to Obsidian, Knights of the Old Republic 2, great game. They did the same with New Vegas, it was given to another company who's familiar with RPGs and, but,


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[Assistant] You know, you could do that with, with games, and even, you know, build other types of games, like I've said before, like a, like a, an Assassin Dark Brotherhood or Morag Tong kind of thing game, like, kinda like Dishonored made by Arcane Studios or something, or, or like, you know, the RTS things, but it's just like, you can give it to other studios to, to make it, like, where it-


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, it's just a persistent, like, you know, microtransaction world.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but, uh, still, well, now the tie in there was factions is you could use single games to explore other factions.


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[Assistant] Make him good. Make him good. Bring back the Moragatong. Yeaah. That'll never happen.


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[Assistant] One last little thing I would like to dot is, is you don't have to have all factions like, cause you know, I'd be like, oh I want the Morang Tongue and all that kind of stuff. It kind of gets a bit silly and bloated. But everyone loves nods of characters or like faction members. Like in the Thieves Guild having that Morang Tongue member, that's cool. Like I, I wish they would do that. The Morang Tongue.


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[Assistant] Yeah, if you're not gonna have the full faction, have members of factions sort of, you know, mixed in and it just creates, you know, it's a nicer world building atmosphere. Yeah, for sure. It's a cool way to spread lore.


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[Assistant] What is up ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Fudge Muppet, my name is Scott here with Michael Andrew as always and today on the Elder Scrolls Podcast we are talking all about the vampires. So which one of you guys would like to take the reign?


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[Assistant] I think too, uhm, it's worth mentioning, like we always kind of say for these kinds of things, but


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[Assistant] We need to sort of consider the gameplay functions. Like, so for example, if you go into Morrowind or Oblivion, like there's lots of buffs to like hand to hand strength and speed and like all of these kinds of things that make them feel superhuman. Whereas if you play a vampire in Skyrim, it's pretty tame. Like you get a few powers and like a buff to illusion and sneak, but it's nothing.


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[Assistant] Your, your just general like physiology doesn't seem enhanced and you know, you go like, oh, it's the different strain or whatever, but it's like.


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[Assistant] I dunno, I feel like the Volcahar vampires and stuff that you meet should have a little bit of like, you know, supernatural strength beyond just what the strain in Skyrim gives you, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Like that was like a modern sort of one and so on. I was really into that as a kid and so on. But like, you know, Bram Stoker's, um,


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[Assistant] Dracula and so on, like all of the, and you know, even the movie with Gary Oldman.


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[Assistant] Funny performances in it too, but like, I really liked that. Like my favorite thing about vampires, which is something I really liked about the Dawnguard DLC introducing in the form of the vampire Lord was the sort of contrast of the kind of


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[Assistant] I remember being uhm, absolutely bummed because I tried deliberately to get to like, you know, fourth stage vampire and everything to see if my like, face would change into the bat.


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[Assistant] I don't know, for some reason I just remember absolutely being so cut because I got, I've got random vampirism on my like wood elf character that started and I did back then, I was a kid, I didn't know how to cure anything or.


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[Assistant] Start that. So uhm. I can just pop it in the chat. My uh, Bosworth character went really ugly and got like gaunt cheeks and like sort of- It happened so easily as well. The co- and the complexion just messed up a bit, like it went really pale like in the inner parts of the face, but the outer parts went- were still tanned. Yeah, okay, low-


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[Assistant] Anyways, I agree with the sentiment anyway that like, vampires, if they are fully fed and everything, should look, at the very least.


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[Assistant] Well, I suppose we better start with the origin of the vampires and that is a touchy one.


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[Assistant] And also because of YouTube's, uh, algorithm, I feel like there's certain words I'll avoid, but I feel like you can, uhm, get the picture. But it all starts with a very, very ancient, uhm, Nidic tribe, and basically, uhm,


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[Assistant] There's Lemay, Lemay Balefag is the very first one, um, and her, Moly, I forgot what it, Moly Bale was trying to spite RK.


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[Assistant] And then she died, and then another group of needs came and found her, and she was laying there dead, and then they- and-


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[Assistant] Basically, on the funeral, on the, uh, pyre, the funeral pyre for her, which they were giving her a burial, um, she came alive and as a vampire and then killed them all. And then she, so basically Lemay Balefag, or they call Lemay Bale, um, is the progenitor for basically all of the vampire, well, I guess it kind of depends.


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[Assistant] For most vampires and the diseases you get and there's certain like bloodlines, but then there's other ones that have been given directly to people such as Sarana and Sarana's mother, um, via, uh, the process involving like what they call a daughter of cold harbor, which


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[Assistant] It's very, uh, it's implied to be the exact same thing that happened to Lemay, uh, something that, you know, you, you undergo as part of a ritual and then you become a pure-blooded vampire. And that's sort of the, where the Volcahar bloodline started, for example.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, so it's, uhm, it's an absolutely, it's a thing intertwined with, uhm, Merlach Bell.


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[Assistant] It's funny too though, it's interesting that uhm, this is a similar story that happens, like two examples I can think of, one that what I'm about to say, uhm, is that the god's sort of forsaking them, so, Lemay, uhm, after it goes on that crazy rampage, uhm, and killed her a bunch of needs and so on. You know, I should just-


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[Assistant] Like it's, it's, it's extra gnarly. And she becomes, um, but she hates what she'd become at first. And then she's praying to RK for help, but there's like zero response. Like RK is just like, you're undead now. I'm not answering the phone. And then, so she got scorned that hand, but she also hates Moloch Baal for what happened to her. And then.


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[Assistant] There's reasons, and it's just sort of explored in Elder Scrolls online. For her special bloodline.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, it's like, not to the same degree, but like, remember the arch-curate, um, Vyther in, um, in the Dawnguard DLC, he was like, you know, in quotes, abandoned by Auriel. So like, as well, just all the gods, I don't know, bad, bad Aedra, my little debut issue here. Yeah, or just not involved in it.


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[Assistant] And, you know, some origins vary, like we said, with a Volcaha, um, bloodline, but we end up with a Skyrim filled with heaps of different bloodlines. Um, even, even seemingly within the same sort of strain. So there's like the.


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[Assistant] Yeah, um, and then, but even with that, like, so for example, in the Oblivion one, the Porphyric Hemophilia, um, there's lots of different, uh, clan versions. So like in Morrowinds, there's like the Quora clan and then the Burn clan and, and Onde clan. And, and they're all like it, when you get it, it's all the same disease. It's not like it, but it's turned by each one. And I'm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so like what I mean is like of those certain diseases, there's like certain bloodlines like of those strains, if that makes sense.


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[Assistant] And, and also, like, with the various methods, there's been various methods of curing, like, there's the Skyrim one which is kind of lackluster, it's just like a black soul gem and a little shrine.


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[Assistant] Because I was playing on 360, I believe in the first time, and I had that same wood elf character, the vampire. When I went to cure it,


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[Assistant] Because you didn't get updates and stuff if you weren't connected to the internet, which I wasn't, there was a glitch and I think it was the blood grass. Like even if you had the blood grass, you go to the witch, you press A, blood grass, but it's like, it doesn't, she doesn't recognize you. She's like, go get me more blood grass. Yeah. So it's true. Yeah. So I could never turn my character from an ugly vampire into a normal one.


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[Assistant] It's the same thing as I got, you know, like they sold the Shivering Isles in disc form, um, as a, as an expansion that you could install on your Xbox and I installed it and everything. And then I couldn't, it would never proc, um, Sharagorath's speech before you walk into the gate.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because of a glitch in that got fixed in the update, but then so I basically never got to play the Shivering Isles until, uhm, a bit later when the game of the year edition. I just bought that up and it was all like together, but I could have connected to the internet, but I was a kid, I didn't know. And my parents wouldn't let me on, so.


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[Assistant] Because the one thing I do like about Oblivion 2 is when it makes it really abundant. Cause you have to sleep more, but when you sleep and you have those like warped dreams. You have nightmares essentially.


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[Assistant] That's cool as well. I mean it was just text, but it is, it's a cool addition. Like I like when they explore the sort of peripheral elements of being a vampire and stuff like that, not just


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[Assistant] See even, uh, we don't want to derail this too much, but quick little anecdote there, but it is like, that was a cool function of, um, of the shrines. Like if you tried to pray to the divines and you're a really evil character, like they'd say go and repent.


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[Assistant] Is it vampirim order? Well, I was going to say like while we're on the topic of Cyrodiil and Oblivion, we'll discuss that Cyrodiil is the most powerful vampires of Cyrodiil are that order. But one thing I like about that.


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[Assistant] Is it's because of the, like, dealings with Clavicus Vile and so on that has allowed them to sort of blend in and mask their sort of monstrous side of them. And I just like that extra sort of dynamic and especially for like Clavicus Vile who's like, you know, always giving them deals and stuff.


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[Assistant] But uhm, yeaah, the, and, well they have kind of, I don't know, well he's not explicitly connected with I don't think, but Janice Hassledore, the Count of Skingrad, is a vampire. Yeah, and he's-


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[Assistant] Um, dislike the whole, um, not feeding to become stronger because then it kind of like.


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[Assistant] But I feel like that's the drive, like the interesting sort of drive is when you do become like you have to, cause when you do have to eat blood to, to be like people's, I would feel that most people want to be a part of society still rather than living in a cave by themselves, growing more powerful. So therefore like the driver should be, oh,


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[Assistant] You know, eat blood, eat, you know, have blood and so on because you have a bit of dependency on it, like having to need it.


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[Assistant] So they were, they were weaker when the... With animal blood.


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[Assistant] But doesn't that make, but wait, if they're weakened by animal blood, wouldn't that imply that you're stronger if you have the correct blood or like blood in general? Yeah. Sorry, what do you, what do you mean? Well like, you know, if you're, you know how typically you're supposed to get stronger if you have no blood, right? Yes.


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[Assistant] They're getting weaker by having animal blood as opposed to human blood, but human blood should make you weaker.


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[Assistant] That, uh, we were sort of saying, it's like there's all of these different elements that are kind of mixed from different games that are like, oh, we like, cause you know, like ESO, not, um, vampires not being affected by the sun because you can't control, like you can't go and sleep in an MMO and then wake up and the sun's kind of gone kind of thing. You know what I mean? Like that. Yeah. So it's like this constant sort of deal.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I feel like some of the lore gets like, you know, mixed around and so on, but I feel like...


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[Assistant] I like the way that a lot of the mods do it where you have to feed to stave off the sun, but also the more you feed over time, like your like total feed count makes you stronger and stronger and you basically upgrade in levels of vampire and ability. I kinda like both.


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[Assistant] But see, see, that's a really cool story, but I think that's creative because it's under the implication that like they need blood, like from somewhere is the kind of thing. Do you know what I mean? Like they can't just go live in a cave and be eternal forever, it seems like. And maybe it is just to stave off the sun, like if you're giving it the benefit of the doubt, it's like they need it to interact with normal society or something.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Like it wouldn't be easy. But that's a cool take. I like things when they do, like that story. That's a cool little story.


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[Assistant] Hmm, so you mean, it's also, what's interesting though, too, are that always with Sangun is that obviously it sounds the most like Sangun, but it's kind of like Mephalas.


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[Assistant] Sphere. Like, God of Death and Secret Murder. Mm. Saying what's worse was hidden, like, for who can control the urges of blood. But like, it's just an interesting, and obviously that's like an older piece of lore, maybe they've sort of softly tried to like...


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[Assistant] I think it's to like how, yea, who they make more, cause I'm pretty sure, uh, Mephala has like a better...


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[Assistant] Well, since we just did elsewhere, we can like kind of duck over to Valenwood next door, cause they've got some really cool, um, vampires. So there's the, I get them confused. Telboth is the kid one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so the Tellwoth Vampire is basically, go into a family, kill a kid, impersonate that kid, and then the family comes back. It's like, eh, I'm living with my kid, and then, you know, obviously. Then the kid kills the family.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the other clan is the Kiril clan that can disintegrate into mist and that just sounds cool, but it sounded cooler I guess in the lore before you have things like the turning into bats ability or the mist stuff in Volkar's Skyrim, but like I do like those sort of more


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's kind of like I mentioned, like a supersized version of, you know, when, um, um, you know, in Witcher, when the vampires, like they turn into that bat form, they get angry with that, but then getting bigger and bigger and bigger, like this big needle teeth. It's kind of cool.


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[Assistant] There's something else I desire out of Elder Scrolls 6 is actually like, the bloodline. Yeah, I was about to say the game itself. But like Morrowind, like, you know how Morrowind had, um, the Ornde and Burn and so on.


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[Assistant] Uhm, three different clans with different sort of specifics, but if you go back to like Daggerfall, uhm, so the High Rock, Hammerfell, Iliac Bay region, there's lots of different bloodlines that have their own specific advantages. Like some of them might even be like a, a paralysed thing or one of them might be like, you know, profound intellect or, or stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Um, and they had their own bloodlines. And what I actually liked, something that Older Scrolls Online added, so there's like, there's all these bloodlines like Anthotis and like Lyrazi and Selenu, but a few of those were actually killed directly by Leme and turned into vampires. And so it was like a Nidic guy called Selenu, for example, or actually maybe it was a girl, I can't remember, but, um, called Selenu. Um, there's a girl, I think.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Anyway, so anyway, but they actually become the namesake for the whole bloodline. So in the same thing with like, Laresi or something like that, it actually becomes the namesake for these bloodlines that then existed.


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[Assistant] To be fair too, they are the seven differences, uh, in the Dagger 4 games and so on between the different clans. They're relatively small, like, oh, this bloodline's resistant to elemental attacks and so on. I would prefer, I think, like, if they were more distinguished, like, if you had few of it more distinguished.


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[Assistant] But I also like the sort of unique takes on them that they can, they could have, just like, kinda like you're talking about even the, the Nightstalker vampires and the Khajiit ones, and like, just even, not so much their biology, but I guess their unique like, cultural take, but like,


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[Assistant] When you hear about the Volcahar vampires and the lore, they're like these sort of, uhm, they stay in these frozen lakes and then they sort of like appear through and like, sort of like, you know, can just sort of


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I just feel like they should try and, uhm, hone in on a few different- and an easy way to do it is like a-


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[Assistant] Stealth Warrior, Mage, Archetype, but obviously do something a little bit like Morrowind did, but something a little bit more.


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[Assistant] Interesting than just that, you know what I mean? Like in terms of abilities and stuff like that. Like even if the vampire, like here's a cool idea, like what if those vampire lords looked different? Like if there was three, the bloodlines, like, you know, you can have the more traditional sort of looking one, but then maybe one is a...


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[Assistant] Like if there was a, was it Quora, uh, the hand-to-hand ones in Morrowind, right? Like imagine if a vampire lord of them were, uhm, was like a very, like, bestial, like, hands, like, bigger talons or something looking one, or, I dunno, or, could be cool.


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[Assistant] Do they get stronger or do they get weaker? This, this is the problem with like a game series that lasts like for ages and so on, but like obviously old vampires in the previous games.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we're how they were, but in the newer games, it seems like they're slowly trying to like transition towards like, cause everything, a lot of the things that you've listed off in ESO lore, like the whole Khajiit stuff and like this, and even, uhm, LeMay Bell's bloodline and so on, like they kind of seem to be kind of...


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[Assistant] Shifting it towards a, uh, uh, feed to get powerful, kind of.


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[Assistant] One thing, uh, I won't say too much because it's actually our next episode on lycanthropy, but they do a similar thing with like werewolves.


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[Assistant] Humanoid, but with bestial qualities, like a halfway point, but it's kinda like just this bigger, but-


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[Assistant] But, uh, and then there's also the, the, sorry, the blood knights. What did we go over there?


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a lot of, a lot of the rings and stuff. And am, amulets and things like that. And I feel like a lot of these, like they're nothing special. I wonder if you actually.


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[Assistant] Wanna talk about like just some of the things that kind of are vampiric but not.


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[Assistant] Like, so just to, just to make some distinctions for people in case I don't know, but like,


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[Assistant] The vampiric elements of like, say, Essie, or as they're referred to, uhm, I'm pretty sure it's just referring to the way that they sort of steal. And like, that could even be interpreted with like, culture and stuff, but it could be like, you know, literally their bodies and so on, and drinking the blood. But there's also the ash vampires of Dagoth Ur, which have nothing to do with Molag Bel.


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[Assistant] They're just, just called ash five vampires. Cause I feel like that's, it's a cool name. Like they're a technical.


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[Assistant] They're like an undeadish-ish kind of thing, in the same way that a- that there's an ash ghoul, but it's not. It's different, it's Daegotha stuff, it's not like mo- related to Molochbel.


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[Assistant] I do think- I think Merlach Bell is most interesting when we're talking about the corruption of things, so obviously, uh,


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[Assistant] What is essentially forced sexual assault or like, uh, like, uh, you can look at as that or like, you know.


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[Assistant] It makes him so much more evil, do you know what I mean? Like- Yeah. Yeah, I dunno.


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[Assistant] What about, how about starting with some actual lore on the Divines and how they were created in the first place? A little bit of an overview.


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[Assistant] Of how obviously we had Saint Alicia make these divines because she had help with her slave rebellion from the Nords, but then the needs, they had the old, old Mary pantheon because they just took the pantheon of their overlords and then to kind of like make everyone get on.


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[Assistant] You know, it kind of sounds silly when you think about it, like I don't think Nords would be like happy with any changes, but she did get all of the kind of pantheons and blur it into her own one.


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[Assistant] Dun elven, it is. But just changing gods in general, I would find strange. Like there's a line somewhere that's like, oh it wasn't exactly the same, but it was good enough for the nords.


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[Assistant] They're not controversial, I guess is a good way to look at it. There's nothing that you hear in the nine divine's teachings that you're like, oh my gosh, that's, that's so crazy. And I guess that's why a lot of people don't.


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[Assistant] But it's, it's easy to make them exclusionary when you can paint the Daedra as these evil, crazy like things. That to be fair, like on a wide scale, except in-


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[Assistant] But did they get time? Did they get time for religion?


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[Assistant] It's just an interesting idea. Did they have temples? Did they, or were they just kind of praying in shackles and...


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[Assistant] Talos as well, worship of Talos can be useful too, cause it is like a ambition figure and a kind of like, you know, transcendence idea, putting that into the culture, like you can overcome.


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[Assistant] It makes sense, if you're told that you're, like, the bottom of the food chain, essentially. Yeah, you're part of that society, as opposed to being stolen from somewhere else. Yeah, and you grow up in it, and your religion dictates to you that you are, you know, bottom of the food chain, then you'll believe that, I suppose.


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[Assistant] You'd have the flashbacks of like, I remember the last time we decided to worship dragons, didn't go very well. Well actually, exactly, the dragon cult was being exterminated in the early first


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[Assistant] It's a bit dicey, but I mean the whole thing is shrouded in mystery. Even the whole concept that Akatosh kind of came to Elysia in a vision when Akatosh in the way that she supposedly constructed it for the divine's religion didn't exist.


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[Assistant] What's a massive benefit to them, like if you were to just look at Tamriel as a whole and you have Cyrodiil and it's like, oh, this is a whole Elven worship area. And then it goes, actually now it's not. Like they'd still be happy.


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[Assistant] As you're saying, there's two faces and all these different aspects merged together. Part of this aspect wants to undo time and destroy it. The other one is all about kind of like, you know, respecting time and the cycles.


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[Assistant] Uhm, one of them loves men, one of them's an elven god that hates men. There's a lot of...


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[Assistant] And I suppose being a newer god than say, Oriel, uhm, the same kind of creation stories don't seem to exist in the divine's pantheon. Like, you know, you have Oriel and Oriel's bow and shooting, shooting the heart of Lorkhan and all of that. They don't talk about Akatosh when they


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[Assistant] I suppose, I suppose we could move off Akatosh.


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[Assistant] Um, obviously we know there's all different interpretations like Alkosh and the Khajiit religion, but we can hop on over to RK, who says, honor the earth, its creatures and the spirits living and dead. God, intend the bounties of the mortal world and do not profane the spirits of the dead. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Boring suggestion, which is that he was just one of the first spirits to crystallize after the start of time. Uhm, the shopkeeper one, just for people who don't know it, was that he was this shopkeeper who was just obsessed with like knowledge and learning and he just constantly was just trying to understand uhm,


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[Assistant] This book, which was written in some weird language and just, and he just got like so absorbed in it that he ignored everything about, about him, around him, sorry. Uhm, then he realized it explained life and death itself, but he spent so much time with his head in this book, he was like about to die.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, that is, that is cool. And it's interesting too, because that's kind of in, uh, Oblivion. In the sense that you have the, like the shrines and stuff that they're making the black soul gems with. But then you also have Mademarco appearing in the flesh in the game saying, I am Mademarco. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Well, before we officially started this podcast, I said let's roleplay as gods and you two both said Dibella at the same time. Yeah, Dibella.