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[Assistant] So I'm assuming what he's meaning is leave the mud races, leave the nasty conditions to the outdoors. Uhm, you know, we were talking, Ricky, previously, right before we went to start recording.


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[Assistant] This is what makes supercross and motocross, and our sport in general, so, so gnarly to stay in it for the long haul. To win a supercross championship in the lights, or in the 250 class, or in the 450 class, to finish 17 rounds, let's talk 450 right now, let's to finish 17, uhm, 17 rounds.


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[Assistant] And then three SMX rounds, uh, at the end of, you know, a long season. And when you have conditions like this, that's why this is such a prestigious and such a gnarly series to go out and perform. And in the end, stand on top of the box, whoever that's going to be. That's why it's so prestigious.


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[Assistant] To be honest, if you go back and look, uhm, I mean, we've been very, very fortunate. Yeah. At East Rutherford last year was kind of a mud race or was a mud race-ish. It wasn't like San Fran this last weekend. You know, San Fran was much more. Yep.


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[Assistant] Much, much worse, much more treacherous, uhm, but we've been pretty, pretty lucky in the last few years where we haven't had.


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[Assistant] See who the riders are, that's, you know, thank goodness for the transponders.


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[Assistant] But yea, logistics of getting, getting, you know, every team, every flight, hotels, um, dirtworks crew, um, you know, locking down all the stadiums, like you said, amongst.


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[Assistant] That's why it's so prestigious to win a Supercross title.


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[Assistant] Well, uhm, I don't know if I'm a good, good guy to answer this. I wasn't super awesome in the mud.


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[Assistant] You know, but I did get to watch some of the pre-race as, as, you know, on, on, on the, on the, on Peacock and the broadcast of listening to some of the guys and their mentality and, and the way they were coming into


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[Assistant] into the weekend in that mud race. So yeaah, a lot of it is attitude. Uhm, uhm, you know, and I think it's also a little bit different. I'm gonna be honest.


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[Assistant] When I came into mud races, I was always...


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[Assistant] A championship contender, and I think the mentality of a championship contender coming into a mud race.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think as much as, it has way more weight on, on, on the championship contender's shoulders to, because there's so much more that can happen from bike failures to, to mistakes, mishaps on your, that you've done on your own.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, you go down, you get your grips all muddy, goggles fail, bikes potentially can fail.


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[Assistant] So it is the survival of the fittest. Uhm, you know, so I think mentality coming into that thing, coming into these mind races to, you know, knowing that anything can happen, but also,


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[Assistant] Trying to ride as free and as, as, and have as, I guess, as much fun as you can. I was never one of those guys that could do that. I dreaded it as soon as it was going to be a real mud race. Uhm, I wasn't stoked. What do we have here? This looks like 06 San Fran.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think so. I think that's me. I pulled the whole shot.


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[Assistant] There you go. Uh, right here, tried to jump the finish line. Put her in the dirt. And, uh, that was, that was kind of my race. I think, uh. Dude, look how big your lead was already. I know. I think Ramsey ended up winning that, that race in 06.


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[Assistant] You raced that race also, RC. How, how do you think I compare? That one looked like pretty, pretty treacherous now that I see it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think once the gate drops at that point, then you're just dealing with, with survival. And yeah, it's, the bikes get much heavier. Um, and if you do put that sucker on the ground, now your grips are dirty and your gloves are wet. You don't have the strength in your hands. Even if you have the strength, you don't have the grip.


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[Assistant] Uh, we haven't had a lot of advancements, uhm, let's say for mud conditions other than


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[Assistant] You know, like we would use skid plate foam for kind of taping on top of the helmet. Uhm, but now they have actually some really cool, uhm, you know, I guess like a bra that goes over the helmet. They have double-sided sticky tape foam that's really thin now. Uhm, and the main thing where I was going with this was this.


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[Assistant] You had the, uh, the original oak, not original Oakley, but your, uh, what was it, the O, uh, uh, the frame you were. The O frame. Now guys, the strip of film on, on these goggles in 06 was.


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[Assistant] I mean the strips now that our racers are racing with are double, double, basically double the width.


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[Assistant] You know, you have doubled the width. So we were down here. Now it's this much, you know, it's much wider.


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[Assistant] Nothing's really changing the mud racing other than those two things, stuff for the helmet and the goggles and goggles is the biggest thing, right? I know I'd heard somebody talking, are we going to see guys wear doubling up goggles? Cause I know.


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[Assistant] Some, I've seen that in the past where you put your, put your originals, or put your first set on and then you.


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[Assistant] The base tear off, you're kinda screwed there. It kinda ruins, ruins your whole, uh, your whole set of goggles.


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[Assistant] You, you can't ride cautious in the mud. I think you have to, you have to kind of attack the track, um, and, and, and push through those, that muddy condition, but also to, there is, there is guys that, that, uh, East Coast guys, Brock Kepler, for example,


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[Assistant] That I used to race against, uh, spent a lot of time kind of riding that slippery clay.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, material, uh, and sure he was a better, he was one of the better mud riders. So I think if you grew up kind of riding the mud.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, occasionally it's not something people go out and chase after because it's very hard on your equipment. I mean, you'll just, you'll just, you'll roach a bike in a couple mud practices, let alone a race like this. Guys, these mechanics are gonna go back and tear every nut and bolt apart off that motorcycle. Uhm, so it's very hard on equipment.


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[Assistant] You would see, hey, we're going to, Eldon would be out there with start a moto and here comes the clouds rolling in and it just would dump on you.


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[Assistant] Yes, you need to ride those conditions to a certain extent. Uhm, but yeaah, there's really no training for it.


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[Assistant] I went out on the track to roll your supercross track and say, Hey, I'm getting my mud practice. And now it's just.


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[Assistant] It's, uh, you know, like we see it, we see it once or twice a year, right? So, um, it's not something, yeah, I think that you got to ride sloppy conditions, but yeah, it's not something we, we, we, we go after.


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[Assistant] I mean, I think it's a huge accomplishment, uhm, for himself on the new motorcycle, new team.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I don't think there was a lot of questions answered. Uhm, it wasn't dry, right? It was a survival of the fittest.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and he was, he was the, he was the fittest and survived it the best and was standing on top of the podium. Uhm, I think it's a really good momentum booster for him. I think that, uh, you could see the excitement. You could see knocking, getting that first win, knocking it off. Obviously it was in the mud.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I don't want to say there's a little question mark there, but there is a little question mark there. Uhm, but I think this is kind of the, the, the, the kick in the butt that he kind of needed to, to, you know, come back here at, uhm, at this next round here. I think it's San Diego, correct?


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[Assistant] You know, so I think that, I think it's, it's, it's, it's good momentum for him. I think it's a good, good, good start to build off. It's only round two, right? He gets the first win on the new bike, new team.


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[Assistant] And I think that's a, that's really good momentum for him. I think that's gonna put his trajectory where it needs to be. And I'm hoping to see at, at, you know, round three at San Diego that, uh,


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[Assistant] He's going to be that much closer if not fighting for wins.


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[Assistant] Me reading between the lines, I think a lot of what his reservations, just watching this.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think we're in his head. I think that he didn't know where he was. I can only go back to, and this isn't personal experience, this is racing somebody, Dunge, leaving Suzuki, going to a manufacturer that hadn't even won.


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[Assistant] Supercross at that time, uh, let alone a championship and been in the contention for, for a championship.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and Dunge came out, yeaah, I'm sure there was problems with the motorcycle, I'm sure, but he was a podium guy. I look at that thinking and watching and almost


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[Assistant] I say it's more mental on Chase's side. I think that motorcycle has, is good, has been good. Uhm, I think they will make it better and they will make it better for him.


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[Assistant] But I think a lot of his reservations, if you had to ask me, just watching this, looks like it was coming from him, from the mental side, not really knowing where he was. Did I make the right decision? Is this, was this the right move for me? Can I keep?


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[Assistant] That may be spiraled or snowballed with, you know, man, I made the wrong decision. Should I have done that? Um, all that stuff kind of comes into play. And as you see riding with Kenny.


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[Assistant] They reinvented the wheel before Anaheim 1. I don't think they reinvented the wheel before San Francisco. Uhm, I think Chase is, is just in a better headspace. Uh, and, and the pressure is a little, you know, the, the pressure has been relieved, uhm, after Anaheim 1 because of just all the hype that rolls into Anaheim 1.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah. I don't know, it's interesting to see. I know, I know that, um, and, and, I never wrote for an Austrian brand, but, uh, I know the Austrians, they, they move quite a bit quicker than, oh yeaah, Japanese brands. And that's a good, that's a good point.


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[Assistant] It can be a very good quality, but also if this was a scenario like you're talking about, maybe...


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[Assistant] Uhm, 2003 bike was great and then the updated chassis and version of her 2024 wasn't as good and now they need to fine tune that and get that thing razor sharp like they at the end of the season when he went and rode the 23 bike.


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[Assistant] That thing was sharp, that thing it had all seasoned raced on it, it had every, every rock and nook and cranny had been, had been, uh, uh, attended to, uhm, and now they're starting fresh, right? So on a, on a, on a little bit different chassis or a new, newer updated chassis. So that could be something that they're dealing with. I personally think that, uhm,


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[Assistant] I'm just gonna go out on a limb and throw this out there. I was made to ride and I know you were made to ride.


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[Assistant] As an amateur, uhm, and you learned to be fast on, on whatever product you had. And I'm not saying these guys don't, but I think what we're seeing in today in the trend that has changed is if the bike is say 5% off,


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[Assistant] These guys re- you really see it. You really see the 5% off where it's not him.


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[Assistant] So, so that being said, I think that we're seeing, we're seeing these guys maybe not be able to adapt to a, to a motorcycle that is three to five percent off. And I think maybe that's just, maybe that's because the, you know, the, it's, uh, the, the, where we're seeing the ceiling of where these guys are right now are so high.


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[Assistant] If you're gonna be that perfect, what a night to be perfect on is this mud race. Get out front, uhm, oh.


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[Assistant] I mean, it just makes your night that much, that much easier, but as you watch him go down the start straight there, the bike got all loose on him because it was super deep. We watched Anderson flip over the bars there, tangle up Mookie. Um, you know, it, uh, definitely helped, but I mean,


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[Assistant] I don't think he counted, I think it was a, it was a perfect storm, honestly. Looking at him, watching the throttle hand right there.


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[Assistant] I think that anticipation worked that time. And as much as we practice darts, I know you've done it, I've know I've done it.


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[Assistant] Because, let's be honest, AMA failed. They're supposed to go from anywhere from 3 to 5 seconds, right? So uhm.


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[Assistant] They do it, I, I, I don't think they do that two second leeway. I think it's within half a second. Gate drops pretty much all night, every night.


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[Assistant] If you had to ask me, but I think it was just the perfect storm. He anticipated the gate dropping and it worked out for him. Any sooner he would have hit the gate.


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[Assistant] Oh man, I think, I think he's, he's, uh, he's got a lot, he's been winning and winning and winning. So it, it had to come to a, to an end at some point, right? Yeah.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't think that this is a big scare factor for Jett, but I do think that, uh,


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[Assistant] I, I, I agree with you there and also too, I think good.


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[Assistant] Uh, call it testing for his Achilles, right? Like you mentioned talking mud and practicing mud and twisting an ankle and twisting a knee.


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[Assistant] Uh, those are some gnarly conditions to have because your feet are always down.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, paddling the ground, uh, easy to twist. So maybe that was a good reassurance for him also that like, hey, my foot didn't bother me out there. I caught her on the ground a couple of times. I had the foot peg hit me from behind. I'm just throwing out scenarios that, uh,


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[Assistant] Maybe mentally he's like, hey, my foot is back, you know?


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[Assistant] Um, I don't have to worry about it because I, you know, these three little four things that did happen on the track, I was, I was thinking that that might hurt, hurt my leg or hurt my foot or hurt my Achilles. Um, and none of that happened, right? So, um, good confidence booster, I think.


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[Assistant] I think so. I think so. You know, I think San Diego, um, in the past has, has, uh, you know,


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[Assistant] So yea, I think he'll be, he'll be, he'll be strong next weekend.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, Shane rode well and get up on, uh, you know, like to knock down a fourth of me. Major veteran, you know, and that's one thing, like we talked about, the mud's a great equalizer, um, gives, you know, it's, uh, somebody like, uh, um,


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[Assistant] Shane to, to get a little bit of a confidence booster and get that forth and, and, uh, you know, I think, I think he's a top 10 guy, uh, you know, most of these races, you know, so we'll see it. Hopefully that, like you said, gives a, gives these guys a little, uh, you know, shot in the arm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the first turn was gnarly. I mean, uhm, we just watched the replay of, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then you end up just getting swamped there. Really nothing you can do other than, I would just, okay.


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[Assistant] Get the whole shot and be in Chase's position, right?


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[Assistant] And hopefully get through the first turn. It was a treacherous first turn right there.


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[Assistant] Exactly. So we're going to err on the, on the, on the happy side of no rain. But like I mentioned, um, San Diego does get a lot of that moisture blowing in, um, there it's a little bit harder. Um, so it's, it's going to be a technical track.


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[Assistant] It's very early. It is very early. Anaheim 1, like we've always talked about, a lot of hype. Everybody loves to win Anaheim 1, but Anaheim 1 is Anaheim 1. And then we had a major mud race for round 2. So yea, to your point, uhm,


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[Assistant] I wouldn't say that we have anybody, yes, I wouldn't say we have anybody that's just a runaway. Oh, Jett's going to run away with this or, you know, Chase is going to do this or whatever. It's very, very, very up in the air still.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Eli hasn't caught his stride yet, I don't feel, uhm.


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[Assistant] So it's going to be some really good racing coming up here. And I think, I think we'll see what you're looking for probably around. I mean, I always say it's everybody.


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[Assistant] As past champions, we always used Daytona as our reference.


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[Assistant] The series really doesn't start till Daytona because if you're in it at Daytona, um, within a few points or, or, or in the championship fight at Daytona, that's kind of when the, when it rolls over into, okay, here's the last, here's your stretch on the way out. And this is where things really get tough because that's where you really got to start digging is, is after Daytona.


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[Assistant] I think they ride those conditions more than we do in Europe.


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[Assistant] So, honestly I think it solidifies him coming over here. He gets a heat race, heat race win, uhm, second try.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, that's huge, huge, huge, huge for him to be able to do that second try. Um, he wrote phenomenal Anaheim one. So what I look back to see, yeah, he's only, I think he's only here for one more round. Right. He planned on doing three. Um, maybe that changes, maybe it doesn't. Um, but you said you were


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[Assistant] That's what I claimed, yea, and what did, I think Anaheim1 was, what'd he end up?


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[Assistant] I, I, I say if, if he was here for the whole season, I'm saying by the end, by, by halfway, we're gonna see, we're gonna see that man up in, up anywhere from fifth through eighth, uhm, majority of the time. But nonetheless, I think that solidifies him coming over here.


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[Assistant] This guy is 22 or something, 22 years old. He's young, right? Yea, dude. And a lot of guys that come from Europe.


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[Assistant] They start in the lights class. Uhm, it was like me going from here and then going over to Europe in the 450 class. If I would have went into the lights class and had some time to grow and learn and all that, like he's stepping into the, into the, into the big dogs, into the show right now. And, and what I'm seeing is.


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[Assistant] Is phenomenal from him. So I think it solidifies him coming over for next year. I think he, I think he wants to be here. I think it's, it is one of the biggest shows in the world for, for two-wheel motor sports. Um, at least in, in our realm is, is, is super cross man. So, um, and we know he can ride. I think that's the biggest question.


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[Assistant] The world plus himself that, that, uh, he has the skills to, to learn this and also just to come out, you know, come out and do well pretty well right off the bat.


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[Assistant] So at a young age, I think he's got lots of building to do and he's got lots of time to, to, to, to be that much better.


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[Assistant] He didn't go fast. You can see he went off the track. It is what it is. I think in those conditions.


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[Assistant] Scenario would have been different if you would have had, if uhm, if you would have had a guy right on him and then he went off the track and then I think you would have...


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[Assistant] I don't know if you would have AMA necessarily penalizing him, but you'd probably have a protest.


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[Assistant] If you had somebody, if they were like bar to bar battling and then he goes off the track and then that happens.


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[Assistant] It just all depends too because as a racer, you go off the track like that, in the mud like that.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know, is he gonna let the guy by? I think they would've had a pro te- that's why it's different. Nobody was around him. Yes, Frandis was in front of him. It looked like that.


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[Assistant] Didn't gain any advantage and he came out if anything lost time. So.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, no, Jordan rode well, put himself in a good position, um, you know, so.


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[Assistant] Survival of the fittest, uh, he was able to, to keep that motorcycle upright and, and honestly that's, in those conditions, that's kind of what you need. I think, uhm, watching, actually I just watched the lights, lights, or the 250 race again this morning, uhm, Levi came through the pack quite, you know, from, from a little ways back, it seemed like.


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[Assistant] Uh, not 8, but where he started, I think lap 1.


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[Assistant] Yeah, see right there, he got pretty close, pretty close to Jordan there. So I think that's a good confidence booster for him. Uhm, I know he had said that he's not much of a mud rider or, you know, even from the Northwest. Uh, it's, I think nobody doesn't, everybody prefers not to ride in the mud.


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[Assistant] I'm expecting Levi to, he, he, he has to, I'm not going to say he needs to, he has to stay in this championship hunt, man.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm expecting him to be back on the podium. If not, he needs to get a race win. Levi needs to get, I mean, he wore five points out.


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[Assistant] Yep, Smoke and Joe, bike did not, uh, did not finish.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't, I don't think so either. It was, it was within two laps, right? Or it was a few first couple laps of the, of the main event. And, um.


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[Assistant] Uh, who knows, you know, so that's a, that's a big bummer on his part. Yeah, especially from the champion, especially from the champion.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I, bummer there, bummer there for Joe, but we'll see what he can, we'll see if he can rebound and get back up there. And RJ Hampshire, right? He rode.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, it's, it's such a bummer too when you get your gloves in your, your grips that dirty. If anything could be invented for mud racing, it's something to do with your gloves and your grips. But definitely makes it, uh, you know, not, not the race he wanted, but as we just saw points, he's, he's not far out. He's still in championship contention.


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[Assistant] I do think that, uh, RJ will rebound.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, so, you know, uh, they're getting as much horsepower and these are highly tuned machines and you put that much water and that much mud. I mean, anything's bound to happen. That's why.


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[Assistant] I wanted Filthy Phil to get on the podium, dude. I was so bummed he didn't get on the podium.


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[Assistant] That's the second time the podium has eluded him. I think last year there was a rare SMX, maybe there was a potential podium for Filthy and uh, and it got away from him too, so.


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[Assistant] And Ricky, before we get into our, uh, kind of sneak-a-byes and stuff, promos, let's talk about the title 24 live show here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it'll be good. It'll be intimate. Like you said, we'll do, uh, we'll get up there myself and, uh, and you Ricky and.


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[Assistant] Do some bench racing before Anaheim 2, questions from the fans and honestly go out and, uh, it'll be, it'll be a time where for your fans to get to interact with myself and Ricky with a couple cocktails with no stress, no pressure situation. Those are the best time that.


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[Assistant] You can have access to us because call it we're working, but we're really not working, right? We're having a good time. So, uh, stay tuned. Um, make sure you, uh, when we get all the information up, uh, you get your tickets and, uh, hope to see everybody there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it opens up for some passing a little bit, uh, different line selections. Hopefully it's not, um, you know, super one line, but yeah, the right hand start. We're going to see it again. Um, like I had said, I think show one, um, it's something we don't see. These guys will get better at it. They will learn it. Um,


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[Assistant] This looks like it's more of a, it's a hard 180 at the end. So you're not going to have the ability to just chop somebody off. To me, if I'm looking at the starting line, I'm going to be up on the inside.


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[Assistant] Yeah, guys are going to rush in and think they have control and they're going to blow out to the berm and they're going to leave the inside open.


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[Assistant] Stu was always really good at that, being able to all of a sudden sneak around the inside.


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[Assistant] You know, when you thought, man, I got the whole shot, here I go, and here he's on the inside, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a throwback race. I heard it's going to be a throwback race. So uhm, yes, I will be at San Diego.


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[Assistant] Hi folks, Lee Diffie from NBC Sports here. If you truly enjoyed what you just watched, you can get more news, interviews, and highlights by subscribing to the Motorsports on NBC YouTube page. You can get it all, so go for it.


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[Assistant] NBC Sports, uh, I'm Ricky Carmichael. There's Ryan Villapoto. We got a great show for you today. Really excited. We're going to have the 250 West champ.


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[Assistant] Jet Lawrence on the show a little bit later, so, uh, make sure you listen to that. It's gonna be good, always fun to have the Lawrence brothers, but, uh, and always good to talk about a champion. But, uh, before we get going here on what was a wild weekend, gotta thank our great partners at, uh, United Motorsports, Foxo USA,


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[Assistant] And of course, quad lock case. So, uh, we appreciate you guys.


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[Assistant] And RV, uhm, you know, I hate that cliche of this is, you know, anything can happen, but the last two weeks, uhm,


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[Assistant] Have been something that I have never seen ever in my life. Uh, you and I were talking before we started recording the show.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm kind of still like, I have a hangover from all the events that, that, that has taken place and just what's your reaction on Denver and Eli Tomac?


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's nuts because you think of a guy like Eli Tomac or yourself or a McGrath or, you know, Dunge. It's like even, even me for that matter or, or.


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[Assistant] Like you just, it's, it's one of those things you just like, oh, this guy's, he's good enough. He's proven enough. They just, you don't make mistakes like that. And it just like, that's why I, I thought that it was Eli's solution. Like there's no way what happened could have happened. That's why the last two weeks, I'm just like, I,


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[Assistant] And you brought something, you brought something up, like Eli has always been known for riding on the balls of his feet. And if you, if you listen to some of the coaches, they'll tell you, I mean, that's proper. That's what you want to do. And RV, like, just, just explain to everyone what you think.


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[Assistant] Maybe have happened and it wasn't a mistake, but like his, his footing and, and what possibly.


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[Assistant] You're exactly right, and I don't want to speculate.


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[Assistant] You know, I did say this on the broadcast RV and I don't like, this is my opinion.


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[Assistant] I would have been thinking like this is bigger than, okay, first thing, alright.


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[Assistant] You know you're hosed, like, okay, well, there goes my championship. I'm not winning championship. And then you look at life in big picture, like right here. Okay. He knows he's, he's hosed.


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[Assistant] Like, can you imagine the emotion right there that's going through? Like, is he thinking, I'm done for forever? Like, do you think, I shouldn't sit here and speculate, I just-


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, no one knows better than he does, so we'll have to wait and see what he says. I mean, listen, from a sports perspective, I'd love to see him come back.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and just probably for a peace of mind, that would be great. If you could come back to when I, so we'll see. I mean, like I said, there you go. Star racing put out a, uh,


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[Assistant] A post on the gram, lots of memories to look back on and be thankful for these past few seasons. It's time to get our chant healthy and on the road to recovery.


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[Assistant] We'll see what happens. Uhm, yeaah, I just hate it for him. I hate it for, I hate it for Eli. I hate it for his sponsors. I hate it for the sport. I hate it for his family. And I hate it for the fans. You know, especially going into the Pro Motocross Championship, but there's still a lot to look forward to.


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[Assistant] So that's enough on Eli. Moving along to Chase Sexton. I mean, hey, right place at the right time. You gotta be in it to win it. Man, what a plot twist. I couldn't, you know, we talk about the emotions.


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[Assistant] Uh, before we go to our sound on tape, what's your initial reaction on Chase and, uh, his performance there? Just, just how he was writing.


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[Assistant] We have some sound on tape from the champion elect, uh, let's get his take on it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it was Atlanta RV where he was talking about things that he changed and he started to focus on the last 10 laps rather than the first 10 laps. And that's what he's been doing. I think, I think he was talking about it like during the week or something prepping. You remember that? I started worrying about the last 10.


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[Assistant] And dude, ever since then, what, he's won four out of the last seven races. So that's great for him. And you know this better than anyone.


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[Assistant] When you know where you need to work, that's when you can start improving. You have to know where the problem is to fix it. He, ever since he's done that, he's been great minus, I mean, at the mud race, I really don't count that as a real race. Obviously it's a real race, but you know, not, not, no, I get it.


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[Assistant] Yep. And so great job, Chase. And, and you know, even though everyone was tough on him.


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[Assistant] You know, at the beginning of the series, it's so cool to see him be able to turn it around. It is so hard. You've done it. We've all, we've done it. It's, it's really hard to do that. Really, really hard to do that. So great job.


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[Assistant] We got some sound on tape and he talks about his situation and the championship and, and, and how he has become the champion because listen.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I should say this, but I'm gonna say it. There's no shot Eli is turning up at Salt Lake, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, unless something happens to Chase during the week, there's no, there's no reason for, uh, for Eli to show up at this point. That's pretty substantial injury he has, but.


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[Assistant] Uh, the champ-elect gave us his thoughts and what he thinks about the championship.


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[Assistant] Tell our listeners and viewers what we're talking about off air.


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[Assistant] And the emotion that he's going through like right now probably wasn't going there.


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[Assistant] To expect to win the championship. Yeah, anything can happen, whatever.


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[Assistant] But like, explain to everyone like what he's, what you would be feeling in his situation right there.


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[Assistant] Technically for everyone listening and watching, here's the scenario. Kenny's too far back.


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[Assistant] Uh, web is too far back. They are mathematically eliminated if...


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[Assistant] Chase didn't show up and Eli didn't show up, so get that off the table. So it's a bit between those two guys and we're gonna roleplay. So if Sexton didn't show up and Eli didn't show up,


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[Assistant] The race, uh, the championship would go to Sexton because he has the points advantage. Okay.


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[Assistant] So that's why they're pretty much saying that, uh, Sexton is, is our champion elect because Eli's not showing up for all intents and purposes because of his injury.


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[Assistant] If something happened and, and...


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[Assistant] You know, like, has never happened ever in, on planet Earth and...


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[Assistant] He got his Achilles fixed or went there and casted up his ankle and somehow was able to ride and...


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[Assistant] And Sexton didn't ride. He would have to earn seven points. Then they would tie on points.


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[Assistant] Stuff happened the last two weeks, but this is really going out, uh, on a limb here, so.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I was so excited and I didn't think I was going to win the championship that year because I, uh,


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[Assistant] I busted it, busted it pretty hard at the season opener in Anaheim and had to limp along, but uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that was basically one that came out of nowhere, but uhm, AdamSansarulo.


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[Assistant] Heck of a ride, uh, I love his honesty and listen, it's kinda like Chase Sexton's, you gotta be in it to win it. These guys are in it, all the other guys have had issues, some of them by their own fault.


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[Assistant] Uh, but just, I always love his emotion. Uhm, he's a great, great, great kid.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he's, he's one of those guys you just, you just can't not like him. He's real with himself. He doesn't make excuses. And, uh, what'd you think? Like, where are you at? Where are you at with AC? Before we roll, yea, before we roll.


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[Assistant] Uh, but first let's recognize Ken Roxton in an epic ride, uh, falling down dead last. Again, listen, it's not a stacked field, but still hard to do that. I, I was, Kenny was in a great place, so like dude, he's messing with me.


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[Assistant] On some inside stuff we have going on, just, uh, about, uh, about old times and, uh,


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[Assistant] He's texting me like after his heat race and all that stuff during the broadcast, but


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[Assistant] I felt like that was, that was some of the best writing that he's done all year long. Outside of everyone being gone.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, I have a question for you, so, and I talked about this on the broadcasts, uhm, and I wanna know your thoughts. A guy like Adam Ciancerulo,


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[Assistant] Who was a phenomenal amateur rider. He was great in his early pro years. Yeah, he had some injuries, but he had speed. He knew how to win. He eventually comes back and redeems himself after he lost the supercross regional championship in Vegas and wins the outdoor promoter cross championship 250 class.


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[Assistant] Do you feel a guy like that who knows, knew how to win as a young kid, knew how to win at the professional level?


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[Assistant] Even though he has had a lot of injuries as of late the last couple years, now that he's starting to run up front and he has the pace,


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[Assistant] Do you think that once he learns that feeling, he can get back to where he can be on the podium and fight for wins, or do you think that he's had too many injuries?


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[Assistant] That is perfect. Uh, before we get to our quad lock question of the week real quick, I want to touch on, uh,


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[Assistant] R.J. Hampshire in Kitchen, that was a hell of a battle, uh, I do.


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[Assistant] I think that that was the best that I've seen RJ ride. And what I mean by that is like when I watch him, he sends it. There's no doubt about that. He rides that edge a lot like I did. You were comfortable riding that edge as well, but RJ, I mean, he, he goes for it.


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[Assistant] But when I watched him this weekend, he didn't look like he had those little bubbles and like where the tire would slip much compared to what he normally does. He just looked really sound and really spot on and comfortable on that bike. What, like, what do you think about that guy?


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[Assistant] It was cool, the nice, that'll, and as you know, it's like, that's a nice boost going into the showdown. So I think you'll, I think you'll be for sure a contender this weekend at Salt Lake for the, for the East West Showdown. That's always fun.


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[Assistant] Uh, quad lock question of the week. Alright, it's from bohero. This is your Instagram handle. We appreciate you reaching out and to collect on your quad lock case and all your goodies. Slide into the DM. You know the deal. You listen to RV and I every week. We appreciate that.


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[Assistant] Ohiro asks, do you think Roxxon looks at Chase and thinks he made a mistake going to Suzuki?


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[Assistant] Because he had a great season and maybe if he stayed on Honda and worked on the bike, he would be in the championship fight. Take it away, bro.


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[Assistant] Yep, 100%. The, uh, the relationship had gone, uh, had turned bad. Kenny was ready to go. So I agree with you 100%. Now I want to, I want to share this because I've been in this spot, RB, you, you obviously ran your whole course and your whole career at Cali, uh, but in 2004,


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[Assistant] And we've told this story a million times that like I wanted to stay at Honda and they just, they weren't meeting the marks on some other things like financially and all that crap that I was asking for.


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[Assistant] But I loved that CRF 450. I thought it was a great bike and I knew that if I was going to re-sign with Honda, I was going to be on that bike for 2005.


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[Assistant] And man, dude, honestly, straight up, I loved it. And I don't know what bike that you, you've raced throughout your professional career. You're like, man, I just really, really, really love this bike. So.


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[Assistant] Once I had signed my Suzuki contract and have never ridden a Suzuki ever in my life.


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[Assistant] I was like bittersweet, dude, because I knew, I'm like, oh my gosh, I am leaving an absolute gym. This bike is so good. It was almost like...


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is the best bike I've ridden. Uhm, so.


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[Assistant] Chase Sexton looks pretty darn comfortable. He's been, they've been testing, getting it, getting it by getting it better.


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[Assistant] Do you ever, like, do you think Chase could get to that point to where...


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[Assistant] He's like, man, this thing's pretty good. Honda's busted their tail to get it just right for me. Do you think there's a point right here where he could be thinking like, dude, maybe I shouldn't have, have went with KTM.


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[Assistant] That's dude, and I can speak from it because I was there, like, I had signed my Suzuki contract.


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[Assistant] And like I said, I was bittersweet. I'm like, I can't believe I'm leaving this bike right here. Cause I know it would be a darn good year.


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[Assistant] Alright, well, there you go. I would have been bummed. That's for sure I was bummed. I'm sure he is bummed.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I wasn't even thinking of that. Like that's why I love your vision on that. Yeah, you're right. I wasn't worried about another teammate coming up or anything and it would be tough.


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[Assistant] Right, right. Uhm, before we get to, uh,


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[Assistant] Our sponsor read and before we, uh, we get to Jet.


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[Assistant] Uhm, a little, a little topic and we could talk forever on this.


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[Assistant] Why are all these guys going down and, you know, people trying to point fingers and, oh, the tracks are this, the bikes are this or blah, blah, blah. There's too much racing. And I think, and I want you to hear me out with this is,


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[Assistant] You look at how many races there are. Okay, everyone, we're, we're not racing many more races. If you count all the side hustle, uh, money and races that the guys go do after the championship here.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we're all, it's, it's very close to when I race, to when you race, when McGrath race, all those guys. So that's pretty much the same.


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[Assistant] Uh, the tracks, I don't feel, I think the outdoor, I think the motocross tracks are a little bit faster in general. There's not as many tight corners.


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[Assistant] Especially like a red butt, I love red butt, but you go watch some footage from 97, 98. It's much, much tighter.


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[Assistant] But the biggest thing is I think is the speeds of the motorcycles, like a 450. When I, when I, how fast they are.


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[Assistant] You don't realize how fast they are until you hop on a 252 stroke. Like when I ride, when I would ride my RM250.


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[Assistant] The, the bikes have gotten faster, but the one thing that has never changed is gravity. So my opinion is I don't think it's the tracks. I don't think it's the schedule. I just think the biggest thing that's changed are the speeds.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm with you. So, and that's the thing. It's like we were talking off air here and it's like, uh, and this is a, this is going to be a great topic after, after this weekend, Salt Lake. So everyone tune in next week, title 24, cause we can get in more to the weeds of, of what,


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[Assistant] Alright, we're going to pay some bills here. United Motorsports, thank you very much. Like I said, we got to hang out with the crew there from United Motorsports at Nashville. It was a lot of fun.


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[Assistant] Thank you very much. Uh, they make great stuff, great stuff. Uh, they got a cool really, uh, adventure bike, uh, rolled.


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[Assistant] Rollbox, sorry, roll bag. That's how we bring on our adventure rides. They got great stuff. And then, of course, uh, quad lock case. So,


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[Assistant] The guys from quad lot came over from, uhm, Australia. They were in tow this week. We got to eat dinner with them and hang out with them, show them, uh,


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[Assistant] Before this, I was living life on the edge, like I was always draining my battery and like always like 20% and then they got a little magnetic wallet that you can put your credit cards and stuff in there as well. So, uh, cool. So that's me, see.


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[Assistant] It is, it is, it is really cool, but, uh, great, always great when we get to have our partners at the races. And, uh, like I said, use that promo code, promo code title 24 and, uh, get you 10% off site wide. And, uh, we appreciate all our partners. So, um, couldn't do it without you guys.


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[Assistant] Well there he is, the 250 West Coast Champion.


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[Assistant] Jett Lawrence, welcome to Title 24, uh, fantastic job.


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[Assistant] Congratulations, you've, uh, you've had a day, day or two to, to let it, to let it sit and think about it and how's it feel champ?


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[Assistant] You're a, you're an east coast champ and a west coast champ and there's always been a whole bunch of talk like guys are like racing the west coast are like, oh, I like the east coast tracks better or vice versa. So you being a champion in both coasts.


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[Assistant] Which, which coast do you like better? And which, which coast, actually I shouldn't say which coast has the, the more heat, but which coast do you like better as far as tracks go?


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[Assistant] Yeah, they were, uh, they were certainly feeling, feeling pretty spicy. And do you, do you ever feel like your, your competitors race you harder than they race the other competitors just because you, you've had so much success and you know, everyone we're always talking about you. Do you ever, do you ever get that feeling?


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[Assistant] You know, you're making some mistakes, but what was the hardest thing for you to overcome to where you're like, okay, Supercross is completely comfortable for me?


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[Assistant] I couldn't imagine, I was a no clutch guy through the whoops, but I couldn't imagine going through the whoops and holding, holding your finger on the clutch as well. Like dude, I'm just holding onto the handlebars so I don't crash.


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[Assistant] So hey, switching gears real quick. Both, both you and I are partners with, uh, Quadlock and, uh,


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[Assistant] The longest climb that you, you can think of, we need to, we need to have a bro off. You want to take that challenge?


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[Assistant] I, uh, I would challenge you in golf, but I am absolutely horrendous at golf. And how, how was your score today?


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[Assistant] We appreciate you coming on title 24. You've done a great job. You're a great ambassador for the sport. Congratulations on.


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[Assistant] Four small bike championships, uh, being east-west champion, two-time outdoor champion. Best of luck going into the Pro Motocross Championship. And you guys, uh, you keep doing you, man. You're a, you're a lot of fun to watch. Uh, you're great for the sport. You're a great role model. And, uh, we appreciate you for joining us today.


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[Assistant] Right, you, you, uh, you think he, you think he gets it done this weekend and beats his brother at the showdown or what you think?


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[Assistant] You know, it's, you know, you know, it's crazy and I don't know how many people know this, but you know, he's talking about the 450 and you could tell he's being


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[Assistant] You can tell he's holding back, right? I feel like he's more confident what, confident than what he led, led to believe and he gave us a little flex there with the, uh,


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[Assistant] With the MX of Nations comment, but he's been on that 450.


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[Assistant] Since before Daytona and he only rides the 250.


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[Assistant] He's been on the 450 for what, three months now? And so I think he's going to be more than ready.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he talked about to like, uh, Seattle. He was a little off. I mean, you have to guess. And then they couldn't ride press day that because of the rain. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, certainly, and you talked about it, uh, I can't remember what episode it was, RV, but...


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[Assistant] How forward thinking they are in, in preparing, you know, it's almost like, you know, the, the 250 west coast championship.


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[Assistant] Obviously they wanted to win, but the main priority and focus was the 450.


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[Assistant] And for our viewers and our listeners, that's, that's what great champions do, right?


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[Assistant] No, you're exactly right. Well, I'm glad he gave us this time, right?


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[Assistant] Phenomenal. Salt Lake City preview before we, before we show.


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[Assistant] Some of our old highlights from Salt Lake City. Uh, let's show you what's going on at NBC. Big weekend for motorsports. You got always Thursday, SMX Insider with Jason Wigant, Daniel Blair. Check that out on YouTube. And then IndyCar Series is going to Indianapolis Grand Prix. That's at 3.30 PM.


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[Assistant] Eastern and then 430 race day live starts on Saturday, practice and qualifying. Check that out on Peacock and then of course the final round.


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[Assistant] You can see it right there, the post show that is where we break down the, what went on with the races and then check out Moto GP for the Grand Prix of France at Le Mans. It's going to be great. Moto GP is always fun. If you've never been to one, you got to check one out in person, but you can see that on CNBC at three o'clock PM Sunday. So some great racing now.


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[Assistant] Uh, on Honda, really special, uh, really special night. It had been a long time since Honda had won a Supercross Championship. I think the last time they had won was when, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and see all the great people that it took to get that.


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[Assistant] Uh, I did have an unpleasant time there and it was the next year in 2003. We got some B-roll there.


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[Assistant] And I am beyond heated up. I have a little, uh,


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[Assistant] I have a little conversation with my man, uh, Steve Mathis from Pulp Mx.


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[Assistant] I think, I think I gave him motivation to get on Pulp, uh, start Pulp MX after that. But no, I was more, more fired up at, uh, he was working for Tim Ferry at the time, uh, great friend of mine. And, uh, Timmy had fell because of me.


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[Assistant] And then as I was coming up to lap him, he was blocking me.


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[Assistant] And just, just doing what I thought he shouldn't have, but certainly it was heated up. So, there's some great, uh,


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[Assistant] Hey, I will tell you, yeaah, you saw Big James right there.


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[Assistant] He was in there firing people up. I remember Doug from Bridgestone was trying to get J.H.'s hard card revoked, getting him kicked off the premises. But uhm,


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[Assistant] That was fun. I did, I, I will say Salt Lake City has some of the most generous fans, uh, so gracious, but I didn't like racing there because of the, uh, altitude and the pipes were so slow and those were the two stroke days and you touched on it a lot. I mean, imagine how slow the two strokes were compared to the 450s. Imagine what it was like in, uh, in altitude, but let's talk about, uh, your story at Salt Lake City.


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[Assistant] Well dude, it's been great. We had the, uh, 250 West Coast Champ on. Jett's always fun to talk to. Uh, we broke it down for everyone on the 450 side. We beat that one. We can't beat it anymore.


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[Assistant] Right? It, uh, I don't know. You never, you never know. You don't expect anything too wild this weekend in Salt Lake, do you?


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[Assistant] And, uh, we appreciate the support. Um, it's been a lot of fun and always remember it's on demand on Peacock. So you can go on the Peacock app and check, uh,


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[Assistant] Check out RV9, so uhm, yeaah. We appreciate all the support and we'll see you guys next week.


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[Assistant] It definitely was not easy at all. I've said before, it's tough even when those were going on to go on my phone, uhm, just between people texting me trying to help or everyone having their own opinions on what my problem was.


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[Assistant] And then going on Instagram, social media, just seeing the comments and it was just, it was tough honestly. It kind of weighed a toll on me.


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[Assistant] I got a little bit negative middle of that season and some of those crashes I think were caused just by being negative and not having confidence in myself and knowing that I can win these races and


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[Assistant] I think just having that break after Seattle having another crash while leading.


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[Assistant] I needed something just to clear my head. I didn't ride really at all that week. I didn't train. I just told myself I need a break and then I went.


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[Assistant] Hung out in, uh, Santa Barbara, uh, where my trainer is and I just kind of reset and came back to some testing and from here on out it's been super solid. Those race wins definitely help the confidence and, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's just, you gotta, you gotta push through that. Like I said, when the, when that stuff was going on, you gotta try and stay positive and I knew I could dig myself out of it and it was just a matter of time.


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[Assistant] I mean yeaah, it hasn't really sank in and uhm.


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[Assistant] I don't know, it's, like I said, you don't ever know until you get to the last race. I didn't, I haven't heard anything, obviously, so uhm, it's just, yeaah. I've obviously been saying that it's just never over until it's over, and uhm, it's 17 races, so it's, it's tough to see you go out like that, like I said, and uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's, it's definitely a little bit weird, uhm, coming in, being so far down.


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[Assistant] And just hope, not hoping that anything would go wrong, but hoping I'd just go out there and put my best foot forward and win these last few races and see what happens. And, uh, yeaah, I guess really the mindset stays the same, but we'll see, uhm, in the coming week what goes on and, uhm, yeaah. I don't know, I don't really know what to say at this point.


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[Assistant] Uhm, or sorry, 180 back onto the start straight, uh, looked like right there. He was set up to get into that rut, coming back on the start straight, but maybe was anticipating Eli coming up like he did, and if Coop wouldn't have kind of blew the line.


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[Assistant] You know, total bummer on his point. We're just glad that he's, you know, any position like that, you know, it's, crashing is part of our industry, a part of our sport. And, but when we see a guy get hit in a weird, weird spot, weird position like that, back of the head, you know, that's.


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[Assistant] Those are always scary moments for, for us, the fans, uhm, you know, to,


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[Assistant] Uhm, something in my eye, it's where I had a little bit of, still today have a little bit of a blind spot, so uhm.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's a long ways to fall and that was right on Bluegroove. You know, the bike followed him straight into the ground. Uhm, tough situation to be in. Everybody was talking about that Dragon's Back bean.


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[Assistant] Being pretty critical with, uh, Hunter mentioned it, uh, that it was just the whole face of the last whoop that you were taking off on was a big giant cup mark.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, he said he was running right next to the tough blocks and now we're looking at Barsha 450 main event already had X amount of laps on it and they were about halfway through the main event here. So the track was really breaking down.


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[Assistant] Yep, yep. I mean, collarbones, let's face it. Like, I got both of mine plates on him. I think it's the way to go, so I presume he'll be getting surgery on it. He'll be getting it fixed up. I think that's a 4-6 week deal. You know, I don't know if we'll see him out at the first couple nationals, which will be a bummer.


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[Assistant] He's gonna be, he's gonna be like a pit bull out there, right? And back to that is Cooper, right? Not finishing these last rounds, missing out on the championship.


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[Assistant] That's, that's super motocross can, can give him that he's still got to keep on it, keep himself honest, keep training, keep riding and get ready for super motocross because that's another


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[Assistant] He's doing exactly what I would do. If wins come to you, then Eli's gonna take the win. 100% he's a racer, he's a winner, and he's gonna take the win. But he's not going to...


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[Assistant] And, uh, he's gonna ride this thing out, and I'm telling you, if the wind presents himself, don't count him out. He's gonna get another win this season if it's, if it's, if it's right in front of him, if it's in reach. You're not gonna see him ride over his head, push the limits to, to get the, to get the win, but if it's there, he's taking it. I can promise you that.


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[Assistant] And not a day that I don't think you'd prefer to have.


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[Assistant] Uh, your championship, wrapping your championship up, but uh, do you think it worked into your favor with how technical it was because you're just so precise on the motorcycle?


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, activities like you, I know you guys play a lot of golf. I, I think that how do you juggle? I mean, from your standpoint, like.


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[Assistant] I think we could have been maybe even better if we would have been able to learn to unplug.


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[Assistant] No, we don't need that. We need these guys to stay healthy so we can, uh, you know, they got only, what, I think it's two weekends off, uhm, before the first national. So uhm, you know, these guys gotta go straight from,


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[Assistant] I mean, you gotta give him the upper hand right now with being that he's from Cortez. Uhm, Colorado, grew up in the altitude. I think he's gonna shine there. Uhm, he's, he's, you know, I think that's, that's in his element. Let's put it that way.


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[Assistant] And you know, honestly, I kind of, I think I mentioned this to you at dinner on, on Saturday night, like,


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[Assistant] What was it that the, you know, the pressure of keeping number one, the biggest, you know, is winning the champ outdoor championship and then keeping that streak alive and keeping that going. Uhm, you know, for the guys that are watching on YouTube right now, we're getting to watch the.


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[Assistant] And now it was, it's over, it deflated and then he had to come back and put it, not to say he's not going to come back for next, this next weekend, but it was, it was uncharacteristic of Jett this weekend and what we saw.


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[Assistant] For the ones that have listened to the show from start to, to where we're at right now, like we, we, you know, we, myself and Ricky, we've been pretty hard on Chase and now's the time to, to be putting all the limelight on Chase right now. I mean, he was able to.


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[Assistant] Chase was able to come out and just blow the doors off it like that. That was really cool to see.


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[Assistant] Now we have double points going into Chicago. So as the series goes on, as in normal series, when it's just normal points every single weekend are normal, the way we normally score ourselves is pressure builds. Now it really, really builds because now this next, this Chicago land is going to be 50 points for overall points.


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[Assistant] As a, for the racing, but for mentally on his side, like now he's, this is going to be a rebound weekend.


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[Assistant] But uhm, he has some, he definitely is a little bit inconsistent. The last, you know, year, this last year hasn't been going as well as he'd liked. And also too, I think what you mentioned about being, you know, easy to work with.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think Justin in that position, in Justin's position, I think he's going to be very easy to work with. And you have an ex-champion that things aren't going his way. And he, I think that's going to be a harder situation to make happy, right? So I, I do think that, that you're correct.


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[Assistant] High point went really, really well for him. Good starts. He's got to win this season back in Supercross. So the bike is there. Yes, it is an older platform. Yes, it's not as developed as the motorcycles that are out there today, but it's still getting itself up on the podium. So I think Dylan trying to, you know,


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[Assistant] Kind of resurrect his career, you know, find that happy place. I think with the freedom.


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[Assistant] Swimming upstream doesn't work, so, but at a, at a, at a privateer team like that, or a satellite team that can call their, call most of their shots, or all of their shots, I think he would jive well there.


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[Assistant] I agree. I mean, I've watched some interviews and stuff from the weekend. Yeah, sure, he wasn't stoked down. I think he rode well. There's a lot of top guys. The track was, that was one of the things I made a note on, was


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[Assistant] Um, it mentally it's tough to be ride behind somebody and just eat roost for 15 minutes and then, you know, be able to make a pass. So you got to start up front. So no, I think we're going to see some better things coming from Coop.


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[Assistant] At our stellar weekend, you know, I think he, I mean his outside pass on...


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[Assistant] Oh, I think it's right here, Tom. Yeaah. Right here. He just, major power move, right? Like just around the outside, set him up. Tom thought he was going to be going up the inside, going to protect it, but here he comes on the outside, right? So, it was a, it was an awesome move. It was really good to see him, you know, back up there because I think,


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[Assistant] He was a, he, his outdoor season, uhm, Supercross also was, was kind of, in my opinion, a little disappointing. I was ex, I was expecting and hoping that we would see him up.


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[Assistant] You know, fighting for more, more wins through outdoors and supercross. So to see him, see him back up here riding really, really well. It's really good to see.


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[Assistant] Very, very, very one line and they figure out how to pass. We're just used to tracks like Unidilla and these big places where we, where we can, where we can really let it open up and take different lines. Well, now this is, this is very strategy or uhm, really mentally


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[Assistant] Each of them coming back onto the start straight and, you know, he pushes the front wheel in this, in the first moto.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, and it just, it meant he pushed that front wheel. I bet you if you went and actually measured where he started, where you watched on film, um, where he starts to push the front wheel, there's that, there it is right there. Like it's a long ways, like, so I got to ride the pit bike race of all.


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[Assistant] Uh, as they come out of the stadium over the over the tabletop and the tunnel jumping and it was very.


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[Assistant] And now that I feel like he's, he's done that, I'm hoping, and I, and I think we'll see, you know, his, his writing even get better because I think he's, he's also, he's confidence driven. A lot of these, these younger age kids.


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[Assistant] This helps his confidence too. He knows that his technique and where his riding's at right now is substantially better than most of those guys. Now we haven't seen him put into a situation where he is racing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I agree. And I think, I think there's mentally strong and I also think there's...


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[Assistant] You almost have to, for me, I would get into a position where I would just stop thinking, like, eventually I had to just stop, like,


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[Assistant] I'm gonna hit my marks, I'm prepared, I'm trained for this, this is what I'm gonna do. And eventually I would just shut it off, and I would go to the line and...


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[Assistant] And 30 second board would go up and your, your heart rate's just clicking off at like 160 before the gate even drops. But at that point, that's where you have to almost just.


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[Assistant] I know, just thinking of that, I was leaving dinner and I was like, dude, Ricky's been, he I think announced two or three years before I retired and I've been retired for eight years, so like, he's been up there for a while, bro.


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[Assistant] But you don't know until you show up, you don't know what the transition is like, but no. So back to your point, Daytona Supercross, I would run Supercross stuff, uhm, within, you know, a couple of clicks this way, a couple of clicks that way, whatever it was, soft or whatever, whatever I thought we needed or, you know, we thought we needed, we would adjust.


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[Assistant] I think they're gonna go back to the drawing board, and I don't think they're gonna reinvent the wheel. I think they're gonna open some things up a little bit, maybe slip in.


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[Assistant] The bottom of the stroke up a little bit because I feel like the track was pretty fast. There were some G outs and things like that, but.


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[Assistant] I presume that we're going to see probably, this is just me going out on a limb, that we're going to see, I think we're going to see Hunter, we're going to see Jet, we're going to see, uh, maybe Tom.


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[Assistant] Drive in range or something. So we're gonna go hang out and probably get some beers and hit some golf balls.


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[Assistant] Hi folks, Lee Diffie from NBC Sports here. If you truly enjoyed what you just watched, you can get more news, interviews, and highlights by subscribing to the Motor Sports on NBC YouTube page. You can get it all, so go for it.


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[Assistant] By a mathematical biologist, I think people find that a bit of a strange one to deal with, because I think people think that


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[Assistant] Typically maths is quite pure and abstract and biology is pretty messy in real world and never the twain shall meet. But uhm, really what I do day to day is take biological systems that I think are interesting, so maybe anything from a swarm of locusts to the way that eggs get their patterning or the way that


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[Assistant] Embryos develop and try and write down a system of equations or computer code which describe that to try and make predictions about those systems.


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[Assistant] Right, everyone is talking about exponential growth about


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[Assistant] Epidemiological models about, uhm, modelling and basic reproduction numbers. Boris Johnson was talking about the fast upward tick of the curve and, uh, yeaah, even Conor McGregor I saw the other day was talking about implementing harsh measures to halt exponential growth of the disease in Ireland. So,


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[Assistant] Yeah, everyone is talking about mathematical biology at the moment, so it's a good time to be a mathematical biologist.


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[Assistant] Right, I think, I think that's true. I think people are like, there's, there's a good meme going around where it's just a guy standing at a chalkboard drawing an exponential curve and students saying, crap, when are we ever gonna need this, right? And it's sort of the case. It sort of feels like to some extent a little bit of vindication, although yeah, of course,


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[Assistant] And ideally you would wish it away if you could do, but yeah, I think mathematic mathematicians are trying to make the most of this opportunity and, and to try and show people why maths really can be important. It can be a matter of life and death sometimes.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, uhm, I think people are doing an okay job, actually. I think the fact that people are even talking about it and caring about, you know, how good these models are and asking these questions is a really good sign.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think it's a little bit difficult to explain all the really complex models that are out there at the moment, but I think that


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[Assistant] Actually, the basic mathematical models that underlie epidemiological spread are actually not too difficult to understand in fairly straightforward terms. And I think it's our job as maths communicators to try and make those things as understandable as possible. And I think there's a lot of good people out there working really hard to do that.


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[Assistant] Right, so like technically the mathematical definition is when something grows in proportion to its current size.


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[Assistant] Uhm, then that's exponential growth. Or equally, it could be something decaying in proportion to its current size. That's also exponential growth. So for exponential decay, you can imagine taking out a bag of M&Ms if you want. Throw the M&Ms on your kitchen table on day one.


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[Assistant] And therefore that you'll be getting an exponential decay of M&Ms over time. So something's decreasing in proportion, which means that the, you know, the time it takes for it to, to have or to decrease by a certain proportion will be the same no matter how much of that quantity you have. So that's, that's exponential decay at least.


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[Assistant] Uhm, estimates of the basic reproduction number are between one and a half and four, so it's quite a big window. Uhm, but 2.5 is generally sort of an acceptable number.


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[Assistant] So the first person goes and infects two and a half of the people, they're going to infect two and a half more and two and a half more and the, uh, the exponential, uh, growth then occurs. You get, you start to see the numbers growing exponentially.


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[Assistant] This is the thing about exponential growth, right? Everyone, I think people confuse it with being big or fast all the time, but actually if you think about the amount of money in your bank account, certainly my bank account, uhm,


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[Assistant] Then great, you'd get loads of money, but who can leave the money in the bank account long enough? And that's sort of what you see at the very start of the epidemic. You hardly notice these cases trickling in and then all of a sudden it seems to just absolutely take off when the numbers start to really grow. And that's the sort of danger of exponential growth is that if you don't recognize it early on,


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[Assistant] Then you can, you can think, oh, this isn't a big problem and actually you really need to be, to be acting on it and taking steps, which is, which is what we're doing at the moment.


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[Assistant] Right, exactly, so eh, yeah, the, the, the, the king of, the emperor of China rewards this, this guy for saving his life and he comes along and, and says you can have anything you want and the guy, this farmer says well I'll just have


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[Assistant] You know, we'll just have one grain of rice for the first square on the chessboard and two for the next and four for the next. And if you can just complete that pattern, that'd be great. And the king, the emperor's like, wow, yeah, whatever, that doesn't sound like very much. He could have had anything he wanted and he chose this stupid amount of rice. And then of course,


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[Assistant] You know, it's doubling every time. Every time you put rice on the next square, it's more rice than you've already put on the whole of the rest of the chessboard. And so, you know, it turns out something like you'll have rice down to your knees or something across the whole surface of the earth in the end. So yeah, it's, uh, it's surprising. It's like counterintuitive, if you like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think the message is getting across to people. I think people are starting to realise, as they're still seeing the numbers rise and rise, uh, day on day, we're still in this exponential growth phase. So uhm, deaths are doubling every two to three days, cases are doubling every three to four days, so a little bit slower.


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[Assistant] But uhm, I think people are starting to get alarmed by the fact that yeaah, we're having 200 deaths a day and maybe, maybe more. And that, that's, uh, that's worrying them and they're seeing the numbers go up and not just go up.


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[Assistant] If, uh, one person infected two and a half people in five days, then after 30 days they would have infected 406 people.


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[Assistant] And if you can reduce it even further by 75%, which is there's some evidence that that's sort of what we're doing with our social distancing, you can reduce that number of total infected people to about two and a half, including the first person who was infected. So you can really wipe out this epidemic if you can, if you can reduce this spread enough.


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[Assistant] Every, during the course of their infectious period, then then you'll start to get this, this exponential decline. If you can get it just below replicating itself, so just below 0%, then you'll start to see this exponential decline. But yeah, if we can bring it down to the rate of bank interest, then we'll start to see very, very slow exponential growth.


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[Assistant] They can be made infinitely more complex, right? So SIR is fine for some very simple diseases, but actually,


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[Assistant] There's extensions that we can make to those SIR models to include things like a carrier class, so people who have the disease but aren't necessarily showing symptoms, so they're not necessarily


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[Assistant] Isolate people as soon as they show symptoms. We have to be isolating everyone in case they've got symptoms. So that's just one really simple extension you can make, but adding in things like noise, so stochasticity or randomness in the way that people bump into each other.


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[Assistant] You can make these things arbitrarily complex and there's actually been a call by the Royal Society for rapid, uh, assistance in modelling pandemics where all mathematicians, especially applied mathematicians who have familiarity with modelling, can sign up and, and help out in this cause. So yeah, there's loads to be done at the moment and we're, we're keeping really busy.


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[Assistant] So they're not necessarily unmeasurable as we actually know a lot, a lot about our social structure in part from using social networking data, but also just there's been a number of studies done and you can actually classify the way that people interact using a network. So,


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[Assistant] And so you can classify what's called the degree distribution of that network which tells you how many people are there who have 100 contacts, how many people with 99, 98 and so on down to how many people are there with no contacts and that distribution


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[Assistant] In a particular node with a particular connectivity, how many people do they actually interact with? And you see how it spreads around the network. So they may seem almost intangible, but actually if we have good enough data, and this is what it all comes down to really, if we have good enough data,


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[Assistant] Then we can actually capture, capture these behaviors, but data at the moment on this emerging pandemic is really difficult to come by.


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[Assistant] Well, so it's, it's sort of interesting that actually in the, in the, what we call the deterministic models, so the models which don't have noise in them, if your basic reproduction number is above one, then your epidemic definitely takes off, even if it's only a tiny amount above one, and if it's below one, then it definitely dies off. But actually in, in, uh, noise, in models which build in noise or stochasticity,


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[Assistant] You can tolerate being slightly above that threshold of R0 because


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[Assistant] In reality, not everyone has the same number of contacts with everyone. There's noise and not every contact with someone else passes the disease on. So actually, in reality, you can actually have a non-zero probability of the disease dying out without having a big epidemic.


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[Assistant] Even if you have this basic reproduction number being above zero, uhm, in the deterministic model. Whereas, yeaah, in the deterministic model, it says it definitely takes off and then it dies out. But in the, in, when you build in noise, you can actually, you actually realise that we can tolerate a little bit of, of, uh, spread above this basic reproduction number.


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[Assistant] Uh, what the exponent is, how quickly things are growing, which is useful if you're studying the disease.


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[Assistant] But actually the comments below the line where people are saying, well, there's clearly some mistake in this graph because the space between 10 and 100 is the same as the space between 100 and 1000. And that, I mean, that's the point of a log plot, but it's not actually that helpful unless you know something about logarithm. So I, for me, I would steer away from those a little bit.


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[Assistant] No, and you compare the different number of countries' cases, and when you see it on a log plot, you're like, oh, America's not very far ahead of us, I thought they were doing really badly. And actually,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and actually it's sort of too soon to really tell what impact that's having, but


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[Assistant] And similarly the number of cases that have been reported as going down. Now you can't read too much into that because actually not everyone is being tested. People are being urged to stay at home if they have mild symptoms, which is really sensible.


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[Assistant] Uhm, like deaths is the, is the figure that you really want to look at because deaths, you know, you report all the deaths, you don't miss any of those cases, right? But actually we won't really see the impact of the lockdown on deaths for probably a couple of weeks because there is this long period that you're, you're ill for before you, you get seriously ill and then potentially go on and


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the tricky thing really at the moment. There's a group, uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeah, so hospitalisation data is something that's useful because you don't go to hospital unless you're really serious and we can measure those numbers but it's not part of the data that's officially released by Public Health England every day but it can give us an indication as it already is doing because the numbers are coming down a little bit per day.


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[Assistant] And so this, this isn't, this is a mathematical idea really, where if you have enough people in the population who are, who have had the disease and are then immune to it, then you can effectively wipe out the spread of that disease to the people who are more vulnerable and more at danger if they do get the disease.


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[Assistant] And so actually there's a relationship directly between the basic reproduction number of disease, so how many infections one single infected person will spread to over the course of their infectious period, and this ratio of how many people you have to have in order to get herd immunity. And it's just one minus one divided by the basic reproduction number. So if the basic reproduction number is four,


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[Assistant] The alternative way to get herd immunity is by having the disease. Obviously, if we give it, if everyone gets it, then that's going to be awful, but if we could get healthier,


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[Assistant] Demographics, younger demographics to have the disease, enough people to have it very mildly that we could have that fraction of the population immune, then potentially that's a strategy for taking the disease out.


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[Assistant] In terms of what the government can actually do without putting huge numbers of lives at risk, it's locking down further, stopping people going out for exercise, putting roadblocks in cities, stopping people from going on long journeys. So yeah, there's not much further we can go, I guess, but, but we could still go further. And unfortunately, those are the only measures that are open to us without a vaccine at the moment.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think you're right, I think it was hugely controversial, it still is hugely controversial and I'm not advocating this strategy of herd immunity as one that's a good way to go in this situation. Yeah, I think that's partly why I decided to be a mathematical biologist in the first place was because I thought


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[Assistant] Because from a very early age I decided I wanted to be a scientist. My mum died from cervical cancer and I remember kids laughing at me at school when I was 10 years old because I was like, I wanna be a scientist. And they were like, I wanna be a footballer. I was like, okay, right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so like when I got to uni and did maths and found that I could use maths to describe the real world and to describe biology, that was massive for me because I thought well I can actually have an impact on real people's lives and make a difference and I think uhm, that's at the heart of all the modelling that we're trying to do is not to forget


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[Assistant] That actually these models describe real people. It's super important for us not to forget that.


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[Assistant] I think, I hope, it will draw people into mathematics and make people realise that, you know, you, uh, if you become a mathematician, you can have a real impact on the world. You're not just sat behind a desk.


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[Assistant] Maths generally only gets in the news when it's, you know, the Fields Medalist times and, and, you know, people struggle to understand the very complicated maths that the Fields Medalists have won the maths, but actually,


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[Assistant] I have to say I'm a, I'm a very sort of Luddite mathematician. I like using tools that are already there. So I'm not working at the cutting edge of developing new mathematical tools. I like to know that someone knows that there's existence and uniqueness for certain problems, but it doesn't have to be me. So I, I, I, I, I'm probably the wrong person to ask that question to, but, but as far as I aware, it's people applying


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[Assistant] So it's tools that already exist, mathematical models, uh, that we've, we've been developing for a number of years, but actually applying them to new situations and trying to get new insights from that.


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[Assistant] Right, exactly. It's sort of like, uhm, yeaah, in Lord of the Rings when Aragorn runs in and says, you know, Gondor calls for aid and everyone stands up and says, this is amazing. So yeaah, it's this, uhm,


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[Assistant] It's this call from the Royal Society, it came out over the weekend, uhm, they are asking people, mainly at universities, research intensive universities, uh, to put proposals forward with their group.


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[Assistant] Uh, tenured faculty members to, to try and put forward, uh, yeah, their expertise and to offer it and, and to hopefully try and organize it. So there's a lot of sort of individual modeling efforts, people going off and doing their own thing, but actually,


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[Assistant] Yeah, so they're, I mean, they're asking, at the moment they're just asking for ideas of what your background expertise is, uh, and how you think that might be useful. So, uh, for me, I have expertise in doing stochastic models, random models,


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[Assistant] Uhm, epidemic spread potentially at a very fine-grained level, so looking at literal interactions between people rather than thinking of everyone as this huge population in this SIR model.


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[Assistant] Right, I think that if exponential growth teaches us anything about, particularly about this disease spread, it's that the earlier you make your interventions and the tighter you do them, the more you adhere to these rules that have been put in place, the bigger that you'll see this impact having,


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[Assistant] Within a few weeks, within even a few days, it will make a huge difference. So now is the time to be, uh, so to speak, doubling down on our efforts to lockdown so that we don't double up on number of cases, if you like. So you're really taking that exponential growth message to heart.


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[Assistant] So Matt, I know you're like standup comedy. You're the funny man of mathematics, but you are allowed to be serious today. I want to get, you know, I want to see what's inside your heart.


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[Assistant] Matt Parker will be familiar to most people who watch Numberphile videos.


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[Assistant] He's already beaten about 50 of them, and there are more on the way. And to borrow a cliche, it'd be fair to describe Matt as one of the busiest people in mathematical show business.


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[Assistant] He regularly performs to sell out shows, he broadcasts across the full range of media, and more recently, he started writing books. All of his endeavors combine a unique blend of genuinely funny comedy with an equally genuine passion for proper, real deal mathematics.


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[Assistant] How do you explain your job to a stranger or a taxi driver or someone? Like, when you meet someone who has no idea what you're doing, they say, hey mate, what do you do for a living?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I say I make YouTube videos and usually they'll say about what, and I'll say kind of geeky stuff like science and maths, and then they shut up. Oh, okay. So it's, it's one further step to get to. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Were you disappointed when?


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[Assistant] That's like the ultimate conversational dead end. It really is. Let's go to your beginnings because at last I'm interviewing someone who is from the great nation that I am from of Australia. Glorious sunburnt land.


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[Assistant] Do you know the moles balls got vandalized the other day? What? Really? There's this sculpture of these two giant silver balls in Rundle Mole and Adelaide. You could tell my


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[Assistant] As a boy in Perth, when you did still have an Australian accent, were you a math kid straight away? Was it, was the writing on the wall?


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[Assistant] What would the answer have been when, you know, people were, and what do you want to be when you grow up? Like once you sort of were old enough to have the concept of a career in mind, what were you aiming at back then?


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[Assistant] So for that first year or two when you were like going more engineering-y and physics, had you kind of put mathematics to one side for a bit? Had you like, cause the math I know obviously is, you know, all about the mathematics. You know it. Was there a year or two when that sign of subsided? Not really.


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[Assistant] What made you want to be a teacher? Why not be like, you know, a math researcher and prove the Riemann hypothesis or become like a university mathematician or, you know, make a million dollars in Wall Street? Like, why did you want to be a teacher?


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[Assistant] Often when you speak to people who become teachers, they talk about those first months when they go into the classroom. And often they're quite horrific stories, like people are, I wasn't prepared for the stress and the amount of work, but you seem to be talking about it very fondly. Was it not jumping in the deep end?


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[Assistant] Matt, obviously a lot of your communication of math now that we'll come on to shortly involves comedy and humor. Will you like that as a teacher from day one? Will you Mr. Parker, the funny teacher?


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[Assistant] So this is now when you're in the UK, you're starting to get like the itch to do funny things again.


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[Assistant] So you sort of saw a market for it beyond students or were you thinking I could be going and talking to students or were you thinking, no, I could do this in pubs and the venues.