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[Assistant] They kind of, they kind of made it a little convoluted for a really poor reason, just so they could just add in some like.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a bit of a, it's a bit of a mix up. But yeah, did you want to continue about, I guess, flesh magic?


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[Assistant] It's kind of the coo- I think they just, it's as simple as they got it confused in Elder Scrolls Online or not confused, they just sort of took the lore in a direction that's kind of contradictory or just, the easiest way to separate it is that there is such thing as, oh this is like a Frankenstein


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's the same as the, it's just that classic separating the gamified looking elements from same reasons. Like, you know, we don't take every mountain and you know, cosmetic seriously, you know, um, but yeah, definitely you guys should really check out the flesh magic video. Um, yeah, I go super, super.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I guess since we're kind of in a similar realm, we can start talking about blood magic. So, blood magic most commonly has been talked about in regards to vampires. And if you were to talk about like, uh, blood magic in, in real life.


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[Assistant] It's all comes from the central idea that blood is like, you know, it is the water that, that gives life. It's, it's the essence. It's, it's the stuff that flows through your whole body. And in that a lot of cultures believe that there is an innate.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of this is added by the vampire lord form and stuff, but there are other, and you can, as you can sort of think about, there are like the bloodlines of vampires which all have their own unique traits, so there's these specific powers that is contained within the blood.


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[Assistant] But there are also, uh, blood magic rituals and stuff that, that differ and like blood sacrifices amongst different cultures and so on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so I think a lot of it comes from some, like some magical device or something detecting the blood. It's using the magic within blood as almost like a, I don't know, like an identifier, that door kind of thing. You know, you have to have dragon blood. Yeah, it's got Haven Temple.


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[Assistant] But then there's all of the, yeaah, so all of the vampire stuff in there, there.


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[Assistant] Blood magic and blood use. It's one of those very vague things, to be honest. Do you know what makes blood magic? It involves blood, the red liquid. Like that's pretty much it. Like there's nothing, um, cause you know, in the vampire lord form, when you use blood magic, you're still using magicka.


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[Assistant] So, I think it's more like creative or interesting to think about it as blood magic being the actual magic that's contained within bloodlines and stuff like that. So, for example, the dragonborn and their dragon blood or the vampires and their bloodlines and you could even argue it's in different things like I'd be interested to see what


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[Assistant] What else they could do with it in the lore? Like what other mystical bloodlines or something there are with power? Like if you were to take, if you were to extrapolate that further, you could even look at how.


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[Assistant] Uh, different races have different innate abilities because of, like you could say, oh, because of their blood. You know, Bretons have elven blood in their veins, and that is why they've got, you know, greater magical affinity. Uhm, even despite looking more human-like, so.


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[Assistant] I think that that's pretty much all of blood magic. I don't know how much.


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[Assistant] Well, we can quickly address, uh, those as well. So, like, as we've been talking about, we've been talking about everything that deals with Magicka, sourced in the manipulation of Magicka to get whatever effect you want. But there are some things like the Thum of the, uh,


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[Assistant] of the Nords, the, the, the Shi-hai Spirit Sword stuff of the Ansei and, um, the Yakuta, and Yakuta.


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[Assistant] The key eye is offhand mentioned about the Akaviri doing something similar, but uhm, and then also tonal architecture, but they, these are all sort of like,


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[Assistant] The way that you'd think about it, it's less of a...


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[Assistant] Not less academic, but it's a very introspective sort of meditative thing that you get these powers through enlightenment. You know, because the Greybeards, they sit there and study on the Thornwall, they meditate about it. Rather than kind of like reading about the technicality of it in books and stuff, it's all very introspective, intuitive.


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[Assistant] I like my magic mythical. I like mythical magic. That's why I like the Thorn and Shiha and stuff way more, or I like mysticism even, but the more sort of like codified, like, you know, fireball, kamehameha, like more of that kind of stuff. I get a little bit like, it's still cool, but it just becomes a little dry.


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[Assistant] But it kinda comes down to beside like, there's that nice poetic bit, but then it kinda comes to like, oh, what's shadow magic? It involves shadow and dark.


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[Assistant] I, uh, I don't know, did you guys have anything else to say on it? Cause we, by the way, guys, just to preface this for you all. At the end, at the end. To post face it. I don't know if that's a word, but, uh, this is, uh, we just wanted to, what I wanted to touch on, like magic and a general explanation. And so you guys all have a firm idea of what the different.


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[Assistant] Schools are and how it is actually arbitrary and how, you know.


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[Assistant] Basically how things ju- It's just magic, really, a lot of the time. It's like, cause, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for someone who has no idea. And then like, mysticism, like, I kind of think of that, mysticism slash necromancy as one big podcast could be a pretty cool discussion. Like, cause we'll go, if we were to do those, we'll, we'll go a bit more into the actual like history of their creation. So we'd be bringing up the sigic order a lot more and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] And we'll see if we can even get through it because just based on looking at it, it looks like there's around 500 things here.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be a 24 hour podcast. Yeah. It's pretty big. Well, let's kick off then. We won't waste any time with the most basic companions are werewolves. Okay. I guess that that's the most, uh, easy knowledge, like limited conspiracy. We all know what that is. The dragon wars. We all know about the dragon wars. Um, the Markarth incident.


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[Assistant] Powerful mages. Yep. Elder Scrolls prophecies. I guess this is just the concept of prophecies with the Elder Scrolls in general and how they're foretold but also in some ways changing, right? Like they're not set in stone.


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[Assistant] Grey Fox, I suppose is obviously the idea that the Grey Fox is not just one person and has been multiple Master Thieves who were all cursed until the curse was removed in Oblivion and Corvus could come out and for some reason his wife took him back. We don't know why she would, but she did. Ulfric Stormcloak Thalmor Agent.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's the kind of, you know, early level conspiracy you find out when you play Skyrim and you find the dossier and it's basically just saying how the Thalmor were using him and how in interrogation they made him think that information he gave up led to the capture of White Gold Tower.


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[Assistant] I didn't see it. We don't know that one, but we know it happened. We're not 100% sure what happened there, but...


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[Assistant] You can understand it, it'd be like the same problems they'd have today with drones. You know, just people flying around, uh, you know, interfering with


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[Assistant] It was an amulet, I believe, that she gave him. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] No, no, hold on, apparently, no, no, like, obviously I don't take it as canon in my head, but uhm, I think it actually comes from some sort of cut content or some files or something that someone found that almost made it look like the College of Winterhold story was originally going to be far more ambitious than it was.


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[Assistant] But, but, but I can't 100% confirm on that. It is one of those weird things that, you know, unless you want to spend ages looking at


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[Assistant] There's like a very, yeah, there's very limited evidence of it. Like I think there's a picture of one somewhere in some book and like a reference in one book or something.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Chima? It's probably the people finding out that dark elves weren't always dark elves and that whole arc with the exodus tomorrow end and being cursed and stuff like that. Then you have uhm, does it say missing god? It's a bit hard to read. Yea, that's obviously lore card.


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[Assistant] That's some himeus. They could have just done that with a himeus more, couldn't they?


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[Assistant] I tried to look it up yesterday and I said it could be a reference to some satanic abuse in the 80s that happened, IRL, but I don't know what that one is.


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[Assistant] And they were in like a refugee district, um, and they were kind of hiding in sentinel and then Thalmor agents came and both sides had a massive fight, hence green fire because it was all lots of magic and then everyone was basically dead. But yeah, you know, high elves will kill their own if, if need be.


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[Assistant] Yeah, basically like his heart just exploded into many different pieces and all parts of


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[Assistant] I suppose they'd be referencing a lot of conspiracies there around it, like the real reason for it, or if it needed to happen, or if there was any shady dealings going on.


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[Assistant] Very founded, like what is it, Martin Septim used to be a Daedric worshipper and so he did it or something. But then saved it for whatever reason, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we've got, uh, Maik, Maik the Liar, this is the Khajiit that's in every Elder Scrolls game. I think he's probably just an easter egg and there's the idea that it's just a long line of Khajiit all called the same name. Uhm, other people speculate that he's a god.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure, cause Mankar Cameron, like, unless it's just a religious culty thing and he uses the language, but you meet his son and daughter, uhm, in Gaira Lata. They're like two of them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's just a spelling mistake. But I'm not sure, what's the theory there?


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[Assistant] I've heard an alternate theory that he, um, like it was Shea Agorath, but Vavette could have done more than just sustain it there. Like he could have broken it into multiple pieces and just dismissed it and held it there for...


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[Assistant] I've heard that, but I couldn't find that.


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[Assistant] Right, so Vivek just holding it there to get loyalty from everyone and to look like a hero.


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[Assistant] I guess we can then move to Forsworn Conspiracy, which we know of as the events of Skyrim, the Forsworn Conspiracy quest and all the lore involved with that. That's definitely legit. Mhm.


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[Assistant] And there's all kinds of other things in there that you'll never have heard of, like, uhm, geetus. Ancient god-like rock spirits that took the form of a man or a group of men who were formed by the earth itself that once inhabited the Somerset Isles.


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[Assistant] And I guess it's the whole idea, but there's obviously like insight in each one as well, so like alyds and just how bad they were and the kinds of things that they did and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] I mean, they did choose to put it in, um, italics as well, I think, so.


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[Assistant] There's also, I don't know how to pronounce it if it's y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like a land master people don't really know anything about.


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[Assistant] Wait, it's not Uriel in the fifth, it's Uriel in the fifth. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure this is uhm, yeah, basically he diverted two legions that had been intended as reinforcements, uhm, in order to pacify the inhabitants instead, which contributed to the failure of the Akaviri invasion.


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[Assistant] I think the idea there is that the Falmer are, there's a much larger presence than people think and that there could be a massive uprising and there's even clues in Skyrim that they do, like people say, come out and do these skirmishes and like kill a bunch of people and then hide again.


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[Assistant] It is when anyone takes someone's place and you know that they're an intelligent, you know, plotting type person or character.


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[Assistant] Why do they just hate undead and vampires that much?


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[Assistant] Oh, it is true, isn't it? Cause I forgot that they did that.


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[Assistant] They use them in their armies and stuff, and I mean, there's goblin slaves in Elder Scrolls Online as well. Like, I don't like the way they made them walk. You know, I much prefer the Oblivion aesthetic, but uhm, yeaah, I mean yeaah, that's a thing.


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[Assistant] Cloven duality. That's Lorcan's theory, right? That he's split into the two moons, Master and Secunda, which I don't take as true just because, uhm,


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[Assistant] But the idea, the idea we know is that they're into purity and eugenics kind of stuff. Yeah. Um, very much. So Khajiit fur trade, that's an interesting one.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a, it's, I recommend everyone listening read it, it, it, there's this book about, uhm, I think it's actually a, a Khajiit himself, who, yeah, confessions of a Khajiit fur trader, uhm, apparently it's a


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[Assistant] Yeah, although it seems very rare. Basically saying how he, you know, became uhm, rich and fell into the temptation of like killing and selling like, you know, tails and different things and eventually he even says like maybe he'll have to sell his own skin for a king's ransom because he's gonna be executed or something like that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean we can, I guess we can skip over Greybeard's hiding dragon. Oh yeah, sorry I missed that. Why is that down there? Is that just literally Parthenax? Yeah. Like, wha- that should be higher up there with companion werewolves.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't find too much on it. Obviously the Somerset Isles is home to a bunch of interesting creatures, but they're not like...


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[Assistant] At least from what I can tell like super secret or something. Maybe tell us in the comments if you know what that could be referring to conspiracy wise. We then move on to the book of fate. The book of fate for those who don't remember is the book in Calixto's place in Windhelm.


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[Assistant] Some are so random, giants are orcs.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Me neither. Alright, Star Wound. Um, I'm not 100% sure what Star Wound means, but I have a feeling it could just be the Magnege leaving and creating like tears in the sky, which became stars. Yeah, that makes sense. But then why is it just Star Wound?


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[Assistant] Hold on, yeaah, yeaah, yeaah, hold on. I've, I've found, uhm, uh, Star Wound. One sec. I can just see a quote already. Oh, the Star Wounded East gained it's name. So this is the heart of Lorkhan.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah, the star-wounded east gained its name when the heart fell from the sky like a meteor crashing into Vvardenfell, crashing into the Vvardenfell region in ancient times where it formed Red Mountain. So the star-wound could just be about the heart of Lorcan potentially. I dunno.


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[Assistant] I guess that's the guy from the Dark Brotherhood and how he's plotting to, uhm, overthrow the Emperor. You know, you wanna know something really interesting, which I haven't double checked myself, but I just saw people uploaded, uhm, pictures of it, but they think that he's a double. The one that meets you at the end is a double.


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[Assistant] Because, if you just actually put the two characters side by side, they're just different. Like, different hairstyle, uhm, I think even slightly different facial features, but the one you meet in the Bannered Mane, versus the one you meet in Volunruud, uhm, they look different, but you forget.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but uhm, they seem to be different, at least from the pictures I've seen.


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[Assistant] I think it's a Stormcloak thing or something. They- don't they reference that as like a- aw that was- Well they're not in control at that time.


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[Assistant] I think that's similar to the gray, it's kind of related to the gray fox.


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[Assistant] And also, it's also related to uhm, don't it, could it be related to them also killing


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[Assistant] Well, I take it like the Khajiit fur trade as in people, I mean, it's no conspiracy. You can go and buy a filled soul gem. Uhm, true. So, I mean, is that the soul trade?


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[Assistant] It could be illegal, like black soul gem trading and stuff that happens in black markets. But I don't think there's anything particularly unique to be gained from one soul versus, I mean at least gameplay wise, like one human's soul versus another. Although I can imagine there could be law mechanics wise.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so the castle was like a big quarantine zone for him basically. Yeah. Uhm, Thorn is just the power of the voice in Dragon Shouts. Again, that should be up there with companions or werewolves unless there's some super deep thing. Uhm, Diabath Fear is still alive.


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[Assistant] I think there's even a, so I remember reading somewhere that there's a reference on a loading screen in, um, Legends or, I don't think it would be Blades, I think it's Legends that says he's at that time at least still around doing something.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like the, um, the animal religion, right? Like the wolf, the totems and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, cause there's a book called the old ways, uhm, which, but I know, isn't it the winter sun, the winter sun mod, has, you can follow the old ways? I think so, as a no.


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[Assistant] Is he referencing that uhm, for real or in a narrative about him? I don't remember.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean they, they, uh, what, they use their babies, don't they?


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[Assistant] Haven't slow babies been mashed into soap? And by the way, on the old ways, the only other thing I can think of is in oblivion, the old way.


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[Assistant] Somehow retroactively open a path that existed in the past.


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[Assistant] It is weird how little we hear about that. Stay tuned for my video on it. On the ultimate heist quest at least, where I'll cover all of that stuff.


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[Assistant] We know what they are, they're uh, the ancient, they were used, brought over from Yakuda, I believe, and used to hold memories and things like that. It's what we're worried they'll use in Elder Scrolls 6 to make everyone learn sword singer shouts like they're the new Hammerfell Dragonborn type of character.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we have giant mud crabs. Uh, that's not a conspiracy, that's kind of real. We know in Morrowind there's the giant, uhm, it's not a mud crab though. It's, I mean, it's still a giant crab.


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[Assistant] Do you remember, do you remember ages ago when Skyrim, I mean Bethesda released a Skyrim thing and it had that song on it, I think it's like, and they put the chants in, like the hoo.


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[Assistant] I swear that's where we saw, I know werebears were actually, maybe it was werebears, we saw werebears in there, but you couldn't end up playing as one, but they did. And an early version of Arvac as well. I think so, yeaah. Okay, next one. Okay.


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[Assistant] Yes, it's pretty standard ESO stuff. That's what you go in as a Daedra when you're kinda like reborn into a new Daedra.


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[Assistant] Secret tunnels under white gold. Uhm, is that a conspiracy or is that like, I mean I know in Elder Scrolls Online at least there's just so many tunnels in different places under the Imperial City and like, there's all this-


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[Assistant] Well, yes, and then, and then, I'm getting there, and then there's also in Oblivion, the whole sewer system, um, and the old ways and stuff, the old way, but, um,


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[Assistant] Mmm, but that's not, that's not, like, yes and no, cause you go into the palace basement to activate the glass of time, but then you actually leave the palace to go to another district completely to enter the sewer. But then, yeaah, it does lead you back into the palace, of course. Uhm, for the quest, that's where you ultimately go.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, that's a cool quest. Uhm, Skyforge. This is, this has some cool stuff there. This is the, obviously the Forge in Whiterun. Uhm, the idea that it's been there for a very long time and that perhaps wandering Elwana Faye made it or, or something like that.


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[Assistant] Maybe. Cause like, I, I, I will admit I ran a Google search on it and I couldn't see much at all.


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[Assistant] How did Daggerfall get its name? Uhm, I mean, supposedly there's a legend about someone throwing a dagger down and marking their territory.


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[Assistant] But yeah, I mean, who- Does anyone care how it got its name?


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[Assistant] That's uhm, isn't that in Morrowind? End of times cult.


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[Assistant] No, I remember this, cause it's that, uhm, Romari guy. End of time cult. Uhm, they believe that the world is coming to the end and their leader, you know, Romari, encourages the followers to commit ritual suicide. Right. Yeah.


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[Assistant] That's pretty cool. I mean, we won't dive too deep into it, but it is interesting to read their beliefs about the power, well essentially the powers of the tribunal gods waning


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[Assistant] Uhm, and that there's gonna be like a new era when they all die. Like he's foretelling the death of the tribunal in the new era. It sounds like the...


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[Assistant] Uh, that's, that's, uh, so she's suppo- supposedly buried in not two places at the same time, but like there's two alleged places, one being Temple of the One and another one, people rumoring that she's actually buried in Sankator.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like there's all these things about Pharn supposedly replacing Emperor's kids with kids that look like them and like, all this kind of stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so, it's a fancy way, cause Demiurge is from Gnostic Star. Uhm, of-


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[Assistant] Yeah, but in a kind of, um, not villainous way, but as like the oppositional force of the divine, right? Like it's what the Thalmor would want you to think of, Lord Khan.


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[Assistant] It's a fancy way of saying law can't law, right? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Ideal Masters, we know these are the, the beings in the soul can, the incredibly boring soul can, but uhm, they have interesting backstory if you look into them about who they used to be.


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[Assistant] I have, uhm, so I'm pretty sure this is just being rough here.


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[Assistant] The idea is basically like if you look into it that they were just created from obviously like shapeless kind of ooze stuff and that they- it's basically throwing shade at their relation to elves.


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[Assistant] And that they were basically made by Ifri, kind of as an imitation of an elf, but not actually an elf.


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[Assistant] Right, right. That's like the rough idea, I think.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's not, cause it wouldn't be human, I think it's just that they're not elves, it's more the thing.


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[Assistant] That's the concept that the serpent constellation isn't, uhm, a constellation. Like, it isn't a traditional constellation. It's the 13th sign. Uhm, it has no guardian or moths and moves around the sky, usually threatening the other signs. Like, it's kind of like a...


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[Assistant] And stuff like that. It is interesting. I like, I like the quote that says, those born under this sign are the most blessed and the most cursed.


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[Assistant] I-I-I will say there's, so I think this is a Kirkbride thing and you'll see it way down this giant list of things. But uhm, what is it called, uh, Unz? Hold on, one sec, where did it go? Unstar.


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[Assistant] So an unstar is a star that's not like a magnege torn a hole and, you know, it's, it's a something that looks like a star, but isn't.


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[Assistant] So that there's this idea that the serpent constellation is formed from un-stars rather than traditional ones.


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[Assistant] Again, I have a feeling that could just be another kind of like, um, Chima reference, like you understand their origins or something like that.


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[Assistant] Ah, the book, the contradictory book.


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[Assistant] So that's the, the idea that you can't have half races in that book, according to the book, right? It's the, you are the race of the mother, I think, with small characteristics and traits from the father. But as we know in Elder Scrolls lore, you have things like the Bretons who, you know, are a combination of man and elf, essentially.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I believe there are some other examples of kind of half race type


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[Assistant] Yeah, but is it Nord related? Yeah, it's like a, a weapon that you can only draw when you're drunk essentially. And the more sober you, cause it detects how sober you are and the more sober you are, the like blunt to its edge. So it becomes more effective the more smashed you are basically.


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[Assistant] I think, but yea, it's not, I don't, I don't believe that to be like a canon thing. Um, Numidium-ism, I think is just like an obsession with the Numidium and like,


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[Assistant] Is it reeklings or ryklings? I've heard a lot of pronunciations and I just don't know what to say anymore.


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[Assistant] And they're there with the Reeklings or Reiklings, so, you know, it doesn't really, yeaah. Cause you see both in one game I guess is my point, so there's just no way that you can justify it even as like an artistic change.


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[Assistant] And that was kind of near Kvatch Anvil type area, wasn't it? Like Gold Coast kind of location. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Um, there's just a lot of references to wasabi, I think, in some of his writing. Um, particularly something about shields lined with wasabi, so that when something bites them, it's not pleasant. And there's also, I remember hearing about a wasabi enchanted weapon.


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[Assistant] Oh, and hold on, hold on, hold on, and wasabi trade, cause there's this thing like the second guide, second pocket guide, uhm, which is also like a muck around thing I think that Kirkbride did on a forum with fans or something like that, but I think that mentions how


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[Assistant] Wussaw Betrayed in Skyrim even is as lucrative as Moonsugar and elsewhere or something like that.


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[Assistant] Yes. Uhm, and then you have Elnifex, which is the kind of what Elven, what Elven language is based off, right? Or?


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[Assistant] Is there a specific name, sorry, is there a specific name then for the el- for some reason I remember one for elven races, they have a name. Don't know. Anyway, who cares. Not that important.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm looking at like a family tree looking thing of languages. Anyway.


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[Assistant] And then there's a weird one that just says self-reflection. I mean, I do that sometimes. Uhm, I don't know what it's really...


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[Assistant] He wrote the theory about uhm, the cloven duality thing.


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[Assistant] And that his name is a, they call it anagram, right? So what do they call it when you change the letters around? Yeah, I think it's a darn full. Is it not? Oh yeah, I guess so.


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[Assistant] So it's kinda saying that like his theory is not true. Is Illusion of Death a book? Illusion of Death sounds like it. It's also in italics which was done for another book, wasn't it?


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[Assistant] Oh, I remember this. Is this the one that mentions the concept organs and stuff?


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[Assistant] And then we've got proto-nimics. We talked about this, I believe, in the Dremora podcast. Yeah, either that or Dagon. Yeah, there's different nimics in general, and there's, I think it's proto-nimics and neo-nimics, which is both parts of a kind of incanter- incan- incantry name?


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[Assistant] Things to like summon or banish a certain entity.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I believe you need both the protonymic and the neonymic to successfully banish an entity if they have both. Like some, some just have one.


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[Assistant] And some have to, if they have to, you need to, to have like effect over them. And I kinda like it, it kinda plays into that idea of like, someone's name is like, power over them and stuff. You know how different cultures in history have had like, secret names and stuff.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but then what's the Null Manifesto? I'm unsure. I would not be surprised if it's another kind of, um, out of game. Yeah. Zero Temple Society. I think it's fan fiction, man. I don't know.


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[Assistant] I think this is the kind of idea, so there's two concepts here. One could just be using soul gems to live forever somehow, but I think it can also be like the, is it Malon Varin from the Azura quest who put himself inside the soul of the star to live forever. So.


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[Assistant] What, you'll get some real, like, uhm, Assassin's Creed, like, apple of Eden stuff going on.


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[Assistant] We're onto the third picture now. And there's, there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine pictures to go. So would you say we're about


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[Assistant] Yeah, alright. Well, do you wanna wrap this one up now?


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[Assistant] Uhm, this is the, I mean watch my video on it, this is ancient Argonian culture, there's all this idea about the Zanmiers being from previous Calpas, there's the concepts of, I've even heard people talking about laser turrets and, I mean they have kind of magical defense systems, but it's,


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[Assistant] The concept is that Argonians used to be super advanced.


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[Assistant] Um, Briarheart, uh, is that connected to the next part? Is it Briarheart Locanic Reenactment? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, Tidus made the second is a Thalmor Doppelganger.


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[Assistant] Kinda things, you know? Oh yea, I mean I can already see one further down on the list that's like mudcrabs can speak. It's like, okay.


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[Assistant] You know, you know, you search the wrong thing when I just put it in Google and it says translate to...


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[Assistant] We're at Lizardmen, Histlis Argonians. So, these are basically what, uh, there are Lizardmen in, um, Arena.


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[Assistant] As an enemy type, like you don't play as an Argonian, they're the Lizardman enemy type. Uhm, so people are saying that they are actually, they are Argonians, but they're just without any hist.


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[Assistant] I don't think that's true because we've seen so many Argonians migrate away from Black Marsh and be completely fine.


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[Assistant] But, but this, I think in this case it's actually the fans that are messing with, kind of, because...


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[Assistant] The, uhm, official arena players guide actually says, like once, once thought to be distant cousins of Argonians, it was soon evident that these lizardmen had nothing human within them whatsoever. They are a race of carnivorous reptiles.


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[Assistant] Um, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's kind of like, it's just the fans who went back and were like, oh, what if they are Argonians? You know, like the game said these are not.


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[Assistant] She's not- She's captured by- She's not actually meant to be going there, sorry. The grey fox requested it. And then detained her or something.


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[Assistant] I mean maybe they just don't ask questions.


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[Assistant] That is really cool. Only thing I would say is like heaps of insects have compound eyes. But I guess it's cooler than having like- To see ultraviolet? Yeah, maybe. It's probably cooler than having like ancestor flies or something like that.


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[Assistant] That's uhm, Sijic order. It's the council of the Sijic order. Oh, right, right, right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause it's not like there were no Dwemer who died before they all disappeared.


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[Assistant] So maybe it's something different, but I, like, I-


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[Assistant] Okay. Cause there is a quote, there is a page right here, literally conclave of the 11 forces. This is the council of the Sijic order based on Artaeum. It's also known as the council of Artaeum, blah, blah, blah. So multiple means.


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[Assistant] So this is the concept of slowly becoming something. So like they say that you, like a god, right? Like they say you man-torshe a go'ath. So it's kind of like walk as him until you become him. Like this process of, I don't know. It's just self-improvement.


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[Assistant] I don't know exactly which writings it's referring to, but I know in Skyrim, the librarian sends you to find, I think, um, Shalador's insights? Or was it a quest that was going to happen?


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[Assistant] Hold on, I'm just, I'm just looking at now, there's all this like really complicated looking text, but there's a little note someone left on the wiki that says, it appears that more was planned for the quest, as there are eight different versions of the book, all identical for no apparent reason, although not used in the game. More pages were created for this book, which can be seen here.


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[Assistant] And there's just more like, um, uh, it's the kind of stuff you'd see in the Ogma Infinium type thing, like lots of cool, um, glyph looking stuff.


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[Assistant] We'll get there. We'll get there. Uhm, where are we up to now? House, uhm, Rathim slash Mora. Awesome.


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[Assistant] Like Rathim or Rathim. Same area. Had many mines said to have mining in their blood. Uhm, originally part of House Mora, but House Mora faded away and were adopted into House Hlalu.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're strong, they have a strong presence in Black Marsh, and they also, uhm, are kinda, they kinda take credit for repelling the, like, Oblivion invasion as well.


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[Assistant] I mean, they're said to spread like, um, anti-imperial propaganda as well. You can imagine them as like, probably highly nationalistic Argonians.


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[Assistant] That's what I imagined. Kind of like a Thalmor version for Argonians.


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[Assistant] Oh gosh, we've got Tamriel Technological Degeneration Theory, Scott. That's what we've got. Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] So apparently he says that the empire is getting old and it's time for something new.


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[Assistant] Um, so people then speculate, I guess this goes back to oblivion crisis was an inside job in the sense that it's like, is Talos saying that, um, you know, sorry, saying that the empire is getting old time for something new. So the question is, did Talos allow the oblivion crisis to happen?


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[Assistant] Yeah, so then Wilderking, this is like a Bosmer kind of god, right?


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[Assistant] While you're looking that one up, I guess I could just say- Ah, it's a Kirk- It's a Michael Kirkbride text. Oh, okay. Sorry.


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[Assistant] Well, we probably don't have time to analyze the whole thing. No, we don't. It's starting to get weirder now. We're getting there.


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[Assistant] Oh, it gets so much weirder. But the next one is just Man of Marco is not the King of Worms. And I don't know if this is just, uh, referring specifically to the Man of Marco of Elder Scrolls for Oblivion, in the sense that people say he was an imposter, or if it's an entirely different theory.


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[Assistant] Now, I think this would be, uh, this is in Archved's Tower. Ah, yea. It's just another location, so this is the Oblivion quest with Veemina. When a wizard named Archved stole her orb and turned the whole place into a nightmarish hell slash kind of


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[Assistant] Yeah, isn't that just that it opens up for the start of the DLC? Unless, unless there's some theories there that uhm, go deeper. Or the idea of like, how could Sheogorath make a portal into uhm, you know, the mortal world?


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[Assistant] So this is the quest you do in Skyrim involving Keening and basically how Arniel disappears and gives a


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[Assistant] Maybe, maybe their power could be spread so that they just take up more and more and more space as much as they want, but of diminishing intensity, so in a sense they could just expand like a big, I don't know, like a gas, but it's kinda like what, what is the purpose of this, of this thought, I'm not sure.


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[Assistant] We did a whole podcast on CalPERS. Exactly.


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[Assistant] I've seen this mention, is it in the Daggerfall? It's a quest, there's a quest in Daggerfall called Wayrest Painting. Uhm, that you go and find.


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[Assistant] Whether or not there is a secret message in it, uhm, I don't know, it's very low res, I can say that.


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[Assistant] Uh, apparently it was going to be the main location of the Elder Scrolls Online Thieves Guild, but that where, um, Abba's Landing was initially located, the DLC setting changed to Hugh's Bane. Um, yeah, it's just, okay.


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[Assistant] Oh, I was in, yea the idea. Or timeline, timeline sidestepping is the first result that came up when I typed it in.


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[Assistant] No, they were introduced in the Red God form, uhm, by a curiously named citizen of such. Red Templars visit the wife of the Emperor's Chamberlain, who is revealed to be a secret follower of the Under King.


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[Assistant] I think this is like another just like really obscure.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that doesn't seem like too, I mean, unless there's more depth than I think, but I feel like that's kind of just like, yeah. Okay.


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[Assistant] I know, like just the, oh my, yeah, something's happening. Oh, my windows are being cleaned.


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[Assistant] What is up, ladies and gentlemen? Welcome back to Fudge Muff. This is the Elder Scrolls Podcast. I'm Scott here with Michael and Drew, and today we are talking all about the Dramora, the Lesser Daedra, but also we're going to be talking about the Zivoli,


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[Assistant] And the Zivkin, which is sort of like a hybrid race, but we'll get into that. But first, we're going to start with the Dramora. Which one of you guys would like to take it away?


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[Assistant] I like to think about them in the same, as we discussed in the Mazkan Oriel podcast, um, how like the Mazkan as said by Haskell, like, oh, this proud race and they're sort of like this kind of.


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[Assistant] It's easier, I think, to think about Oblivion and the Lesser Daedra less in terms of, oh, who do they belong to or which-


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[Assistant] Daedra created them rather, they are just all of these races, whether that be Scamps, Clanfears, you know, Zivalai or Dromora or Mazkan, uhm, that are spread throughout the different planes of oblivion and find their own allegiances in the same way that you would have, say, Nords or something, or the races of men that have spread out and found their different allegiances and, and stuff like that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's interesting that they are kind of like, just like, there's a sense of chivalry almost and sort of,


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[Assistant] Like, on a sense, I get this kind of idea of this band of travelling knights and then they find a lord to serve and then they're like, okay, we're gonna sort, maybe even samurai is a better, um, description, but then they're going to serve that


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[Assistant] Once again, there's gonna be that like personal, like individuality, like differences, but like, I like that there's an example in Morrowind of where there's the Dramora. It's like a...


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[Assistant] It's kind of a, pretty sure, I can't remember if it's a big piece of media or a rock, but basically a tribunal sort of site. They kind of like employed by the tribunal temple to protect some sites and so on. There's even one which you can kind of.


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[Assistant] Harass over and over and over and then basically threatens to-


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[Assistant] I was just gonna say that's the simple reason why in gameplay mechanics that Dramora Lords are like an expert or like higher level spell and you have more simple kind of ones as lower level spells because it's your ability to actually exercise your will over them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there, there is a, uhm, I'm just trying to find the exact, uh, quote, but it was basically, uhm.


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[Assistant] It was something, it was something along the lines of basically that oblivion is ever-changing but the oaths held by Dramora are eternal.


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[Assistant] And so that's kind of a, like, you know, what you're just talking about. It's interesting that.


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[Assistant] Well, let's have a quick, um, talk about before we move on their, um, their drama or the hierarchy basically. So, so there's eight ranks that we know about and you start off first with.


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[Assistant] But then you start getting to the Katifs and the Kinval and they're sort of, you know, as you, as you go up the rank, they start becoming more organized, better warriors and so on. And then you sort of start getting into what they call a, um, a Kinreeve, which is like an officer or, or sheriff in translation. And then, uh, sorry, it would be Kinreeve, I guess, cause they kind of use like kin. Yeah. Kinreeve and then Kinmarcher.


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[Assistant] Which is sort of like Lord, so I guess that's kind of what you're getting the Dramora.


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[Assistant] Lord's is, is technically a kin march of it, obviously, you know, gameplay names and stuff. Um, then the Markinaz, which is a grand Duke.


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[Assistant] Um, which this is all rough, like Daedric translations. Um, and then on top of that, there's the Valkenaz, which is like described as a warrior Duke. And we do hear about it's, I like the term like Duke because we hear that quite a bit in, uh, in reference to the Daedra. We do hear some like there's a Duke of Scamps in the, um,


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure it's in the 36 Lessons of Vivek and stuff like that. I just do like it.


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[Assistant] Also, just to throw out some interesting facts, obviously, like, we- you sort of will associate, like, Grimora with, like, the kind of darker skinned ones that you'll see with the demonic-y sort of tattoo stuff.


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[Assistant] But in Battlespire and Daggerfall, they did kind of have a closer to sort of human-like skin and what you would also compare to the Scarfin, which is another group of Intelligent Daedra.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's kind of just interesting to, we could always like speculate I guess on their like common ancestry, because in the same way we'll sort of get to with the zivoli, and the dromora, and the scarfin, they're basically all like little horned demons, like not necessarily little, but like um, sentient horned demons, so I wonder if there is any sort of uhm,


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[Assistant] Actually, in the Legends, in the Legends, uh, depiction, we do get some Dramora that are like, uhm, lighter skinned, like that more orange.


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[Assistant] Just one little thing I haven't thought about, uhm, the actual name, Dramora, uhm, is Mora? Mora, like, you know, Hermaeus. Right. Uhm, isn't, isn't Mora translate to wood or something like that? Uhm, hold on, what's the, what's the, uh, Atmora name? Did they call it? They, cause basically- Oh yea, I'll-


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[Assistant] Yeah, so Mora is like wood in the same way that Molag is fire and Baal is stone. So Molag Baal really means fire stone in Daedric, but Atmora wood, it's just


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[Assistant] I don't know what, what, how you could extrapolate and think about that more, but that's why Homer's Mora gets called the woodland man by a bunch of, um, other groups. But so I don't, I don't know how you, you could spin that, but Dramora like Mora. So whatever Dre means, Dr. Dre plus wood and then you get like Dramora. Yeah, that's something.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's just a cool sounding name too, but they do have like, you know, I'm sure you could work something out. I don't know. Maybe there, there is as many Dramora as there are like trees in Tamriel. Hence they call it, I don't know. But, but still it's interesting to look at a little bit of the Daedric language.


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[Assistant] And I think zivoli is, phonetically, it's, yeah, and it's pretty cool. It's, it's cool sounding once you get used to it. Yeah. If you, but yeah.


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[Assistant] But they are also highly intelligent, more so than the Dramora even.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it's, it's interesting, you know, you always gotta think again that they're, they're individualistic and more so than others, the, the zivoli. Cause in the same way, there's nothing really that distinguishes them from a Daedric Prince outside of their power level and obviously that they've got like a, they, you know, sort of tend towards a sim, like a zivoli form. But uhm,


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[Assistant] Yeah, having them being so individualistic, it does make it a bit more interesting because often when you think of Deidre, Deidre, lesser Deidre at least, you always sort of think in terms of subservience to a


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[Assistant] You know, in reality, like you could have a, it, it's cool. There, there could be a lot more individuality, but it's also cool to actually see a race that, I mean, yes, they have been seen to serve more like Powell and, and Dagon and stuff, but.


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[Assistant] Um, when in like around the torture, I was like, I just remember thinking it was like the coolest thing. Cause it's, you know, when you're, you know, a kid too, I really just like, oh, demon that's epic. You're fighting all of these demon Dramora and now there's this big muscular one. It was like pretty intimidating for a little 11 year old me.


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[Assistant] Work together in pairs and stuff. So it's kind of like, kind of seeming like instead of like a big clan based system, they sort of focus like as more a singular relationship or something with another one who has common goals or common.


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[Assistant] Interest or so on. So a bunch of best friends instead of this big open hierarchy kind of thing.


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[Assistant] But that might also just be based as conjecture based on the fact that in ESO there's some zivoli twins, but.


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[Assistant] I did find, I did find the Talos Reamon one for the podcast, so I've got that in there. Right, right. But uhm, it's interesting that, and this is probably, this could just be due to evolving lore, but there was a like clan, like clans of Zivoli in Battlespire.


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[Assistant] I have a feeling it really is they've just gone in different directions with the law. So I don't know how much you want to talk about that or, or maybe they've even culturally changed in time and now they've sort of.


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[Assistant] But regardless, it's just, uh, you know, an interesting, I don't think you should think too much into that. Honestly, I think with all future lore, they're going to go with the individualistic angle.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I think people would, wouldn't people, I think people would say that is the arguments because we're like communal social creatures is why we feel the need to become part of some community. Sure.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, I just, I just imagine going forward, I, I, I highly doubt they'll mention clans and stuff. It seems like a relic of...


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[Assistant] They're made in the, uh, the Vile Laboratory in Cold Harbor, the evil place.


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[Assistant] I, I know he's all about domination and stuff, so, so the, the principle of, of the whole, like, plain male makes sense, but the-


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[Assistant] Well, it was really, I don't know, I feel like he's just become a little bit, sometimes he becomes a bit more of a, uh, cat troll evil baddie rather than a sort of more nuanced sort of look at things like the, you know what I mean? He kind of just ends up being like, I know I'm just turning, making all of these corrupted extra Daedra and I've got torture quotes.


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[Assistant] It's not so much the realm, I just mean like rather honing in on the things that he's known for.


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[Assistant] His connection obviously with the vampires and stuff, a really cool story behind that, but also how in Dunmer mythology, he's credited, he's, he's one of the corners of the house of troubles and he is always said to be ruining, um,


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[Assistant] Trying to ruin Dunmerry purity of their clans and houses and stuff.


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[Assistant] So I think like, you know, imagine you try to ruin the purity of the, of the dragon blood or something, or you're doing like all of these scheming and just a sort of different way. And also I do like the outright domination, but I just feel like sometimes it's like, oh, I'm going to make some monsters in a laboratory. Here they come. And it's like, it's all right.


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[Assistant] It's just not the best interpretation of him or execution I guess.


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[Assistant] Well, it's funny, that will be the first game where they start, like, they can reference the plane meld in retrospect in a mainline Elder Scrolls.


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[Assistant] Lots of Dramora butlers. Something to think about too, but interesting about like, I was just thinking, cause you know, Sanguine himself.


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[Assistant] Like maybe their clans, like there's a clan of Dramora like hospi- you know, hospitality related Dramora that are all so into service in that way rather than, than battle and their honor in their, in performing their tasks and stuff like that. It could be a cool thing to see.


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[Assistant] Especially under the service of other, like, you know, you could write a whole history about like, oh, this clan of them are in service to Sanguin for this or whatever. And they're all like, you know, serving beer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so there's all of the Dramora series of weapons. They look exactly like Daedric, but the only reason they're called Dramora this is so that they're not as powerful as the Daedric weapons that you get later. So you're not just coming up against all these people with super powerful weapons, nor are you able to just get them at level one or two.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. They just molded to their skin. Convenient, convenient way to have the player not be able to get a full set of Daedric early on. But yeah, it is a cool, uhm, a cool, uh,


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[Assistant] Have a look. But yea, I definitely think- You think they're cool? WE WILL D-


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[Assistant] As in the Daedric Princes, it would be really cool to expand that, and a good way to expand exploration of them is through the lesser Daedra and the societies that serve them, like I was saying, like, with the Dramora clan of...


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[Assistant] Elements could go on there like a bit more exposure to, um, lesser dangers that have personalities and that you actually come into conflict with.


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[Assistant] I was gonna throw out, since, since we're actually on a, on a touch, uhm, since there's not even that much on the Scarfen, we could also just talk about the Scarfen because they are the other intelligent group of


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[Assistant] I wonder if there's probably some cross pollination every now and then, but, um, they are, they are known as the, uh, the Dramora of the fields of regret. And basically this is what, um, that's Clavicus Vile's realm and Clavicus Vile presents himself as a scarf and like character a lot of the time.


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[Assistant] There are similarities. Yeah, just, so yeah, for like clarification, that was a quote from a developer, Gary Noonan. So it's, it's the kind of thing you can take with, it's not canonized, but take it with a, you know, the ideas behind it. They're like, oh, there are possible connections.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I imagine them being quite the like, I mean, that's probably, to be honest, Scarfin probably more so fit what I was talking about with like Sanguine's realm of like chefs and things like that. Like Scarfin probably fit the bill better.


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[Assistant] Yeah. We've got like, so, there's Hearns as well, like you said, but what are the, besides Maskin and Oriell, are there any other, off the top of your head, can you remember any other, like, sort of intelligent Daedra? Ones that kind of classify more like a, similar to a mortal race rather than...


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you can imagine it easily because they've got the humanoid upper body. You can imagine it.


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[Assistant] Kind of off topic, but just because you've mentioned them, I want to mention there's such a cool, I was posting it on Twitter, but the Shivering Isles concept art.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was really cool. Like a lot of the Shivering Isles concept stuff, I'm sort of wish like, oh man, if they executed it like that, it was so much crazier and cooler and you, but yeah. Much more alien feeling.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I feel like we're just ending up, well, you just end up blurring the lines because they're pretty much, there, there is more intelligence to do, cause even like, you know, I guess,


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[Assistant] I wouldn't expect a clanfear to talk, for example, but anything with a somewhat humanoidish face, like even like a scamp or a winged twilight, like, it's kinda like, depends.


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[Assistant] What is up ladies and gentlemen? Welcome back to Fudge Muppet. This is the Elder Scrolls Podcast. I'm Scott here with Michael and Drew as always and today we are talking all about the great houses of Morrowind. So, where do we want to start? Let's pick one of the five because we're gonna sort of...


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[Assistant] We'll touch on the Sixth House a little bit later and we might have to do that in an individual video because there's a lot of metaphysical cool stuff with that going on with Daygother. So which of the five?


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[Assistant] One thing too, we don't actually get like an exact formulation, cause they obviously say like the good Daedra taught them the ways to structure things, but at the same time, the,


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[Assistant] Uhm, places that they had their establishments and so on. And then they would start, uhm, at one point they had sort of like a...


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[Assistant] Degradation of their society and so on and then they ended up kind of


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[Assistant] And like the houses too are, there are lots of houses. The great houses are simply just the houses that got the most power and influence and that are sort of the dominant ones. Like there are plenty of like, you know, like House Mora or House Sofa.


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[Assistant] Well the big thing is like, yea, they just, like, instead of all of the houses, like, standing, you know, against the Imperial sort of thing, the Halalu were the most open to it, and they were taking constant advantages of working with the times, with the Imperials.


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[Assistant] Rather than the rest who were like, you know, some of the more fundamental houses like Indora was so powerful that even when they did get whittled down a bit in the third era, they still remained, you know, had a lot of power, but, um, house, uh, dress particularly also lost a bunch of power because a lot of house dress is sort of traditional kind of.


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[Assistant] Uhm, riots and so on were, you know, helped being preserved by House Indoril. Uhm, but when House...


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[Assistant] Basically when the Empire came along and they signed the armistice and they agreed to be part of the Empire, a whole bunch of House Indorils highest officials offed themselves and committed suicide because uhm, you know, it was shameful and they would never want to live under, under the Empire's


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[Assistant] Uh, thumb, and then, so therefore how stress kind of lost a bunch of their greatest supporters and so on because, you know, they're, they were left with the Indorils, they're a little bit more, I guess, uh, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well the biggest thing. Post-op in there. I like examples of like Balmora was a house rhetoric thing and then it gets taken by Lalu and they basically like Lalu was on these massive territory grabs and so on because they had


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure it's Lalu that dominates the Ebony trade and then there was like, they were just able to massage themselves into this position where they were benefiting and that's the biggest problem I think.


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[Assistant] From the view of the other uh, Dunmer houses is that they look at Hualalu like these sneaky little traders because


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[Assistant] Klaalu, if they could, would have just kept all of the, you know, all of the slavery, all of their own values, everything they wanted, but uhm, they, you know, sneakily just used


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[Assistant] They just basically like, it's a kind of like pretending to be like, progressive and so on in that kind of sense. So they would just, they basically just didn't have any values. They were just flexible with whatever benefits them the most. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] So I guess it might be important to just tell people that like,


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[Assistant] So, so they can probably understand Morrowind's structure. So, so let's talk about it all post Nerevar and so on when there's the sort of great houses system and everything and then bring them up to speed. So generally there were, so there were these great houses and there's sort of a council of


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[Assistant] Big council that has members from all of the highest members of the great.


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[Assistant] of the great houses and they come together and they sort of talk about things and so on. But then you also have the tribunal, which is above them, which are like, you know, the three tribunal gods and they've obviously like, you know, they're a borderline that they kind of are a theocracy really like the, you know, the gods and the priests.


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[Assistant] But what happened is when they were basically forced into the armistice with the Empire,


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[Assistant] Uh, Tiber Septim introduced, uh, uh, like basically an imperial monarchy, which is a separate, separate sort of, um, power in, um, it's basically like, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, a representative of Imperial and, um, Dunmer like kind of alliance, I guess. So they started off like one of the first examples is, um, Baron Zaire, who was made like, you know, like the Queen of Mournhold kind of thing. And then she,


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[Assistant] You know, there was stuff going on there, because basically he, if you look in Baron's eyes story,


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[Assistant] Type of septum sort of pulled her away from destruction and then sort of groomed her into becoming this kind of, uhm.


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[Assistant] Basically, yeah, Queen for Mournhold. So you establish a sort of dynasty and there were like examples of duke, like, uh, uh, it's the things of Edom Dren, who was like, who was a House Lalo member and he became the duke of Mournhold. And then you had like, obviously Baron Zaya's child with, um, Samarchus, who was one of, who was a dark elf, but a general.


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[Assistant] Power balance was slightly being, you know, fed towards Halalu over the last 400 years in the third era. So uhm.


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[Assistant] But then yeah, so then that's a lot of the reason you have that, uhm, animosity between the houses.


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[Assistant] It's interesting that they're actually, uh,


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[Assistant] Just, I guess we can continue and we'll, we'll start talking about how loud, how slowly, because we've already sort of started on it, but one of the biggest hypocrisies


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[Assistant] But at the same time, they've got really close connections with the Komonotong, which are the most like, xenophobic criminal organization in, they, in fact, uhm, the leader of the Komonotong, in the time of Morrow in the game, is the brother of Duke Vadum Dren.


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[Assistant] Who is, who is a, you know, high ranking Hylalu member and Duke of Mournhold and obviously all for imperialization. It's just fun to see that kind of like conflict and kind of like they don't have any.


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[Assistant] You know, obviously there'll be, that's on a greater scale, like not talking about each individual, like obviously some individuals truly think it's good or bad or whatnot, but it just, you know what I mean, like people look, outsiders looking in would be like, you're just the biggest hypocrites, like just doing whatever benefits you get.


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[Assistant] And like, uhm, I, I do like also how, but if you think about them in the fourth era and where the laluk continue to go, they're heaps sour. Like, they, uhm, in Ravenrog, they try and like, you know, uhm, perform coups against house Redoran and so on, and they're still trying to like, you know,


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[Assistant] Dig their, dig their hands in, because they're, they're not a great house anymore on the, on like the big grand council thing, cause House Sadras replaced them, but still, they're around, like they exist in some capacity.


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[Assistant] Even if you think about them from the gameplay perspective, out of House Redran, uhm, and, uh, Telvanni and Hlalu, Hlalu feels the sort of like, thief assassin archetype anyway, and Redran the warrior archetype, Telvanni mage. Like so.


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[Assistant] Like the most, like pious houses, the most ones that benefited the most and enjoyed, um, the, the theocracy there under the tribunal. It's definitely, um, in the house Indoril and, um, house Redoranth.


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[Assistant] And I think house Redran also, like, I guess we could start talking, which one, Indoril or hit Redran first? Should we dive into that?


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[Assistant] So Redoran have like historically, uhm, they've had the sort of western border with Skyrim and all the land around there and they've been kind of like treated as the sort of stalwart, uhm, defenders of, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, of Morrowinds, because they've just, and they're these seasoned warriors, they're constantly fighting off Nordic invasions and raids and stuff throughout their history. And they've kind of formed like, I guess the backbone of, of, um, the military and so on. And you'll even see them in like, you can see the sort of like.


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[Assistant] They quite, they took quite a liking to Vivec in the way that Vivec had professed a lot of like, um, chivalry and like sort of knightly values. And, um, a lot of Redran members actually make up a majority of the buoyant armages, which is Vivec's personal own.


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[Assistant] Like knights, order of knights essentially. And yeah, a lot of them, you know, a Redran, um, along with Indril.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I love the line, a light careless life is not worth living. Like I do like them sort of, and you can imagine them looking down on things like Klaalu and to be honest, I can, it's not like all of the houses get along entirely, like,


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[Assistant] To, I'm sure they would look at a lot of the, uhm, you know, sort of luxury and stuff of House Indoril, uhm, and, and the riches and, and stuff of the, of the temple and sort of, you know, look down on it a bit because they're not, you know what I mean? It's, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] And I, I really like, like a bunch of their bone mold armor is really cool and like the Reduran Watchmen.


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[Assistant] But like, house, so, I don't know what else to, uhm, cause House for Rhetorans is the most easily understood one for sure. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Yeah. But they're, um, I, I do, I do like Redran a lot, but I feel like I just, the other ones have more like zing fact, cause it's very like, you know, they're all like very, uh, admirable values and so on, but they're pretty straightforward. A lot of their architecture and like aesthetics are cool, but also their symbol, they're like crest is awesome. But, um, yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, Indoril's kind of important anyway, so we should kind of, like, talk about it. So, I mean, that all starts at House Indoril was like a thing before, like, you know, Nerevar marries into marrying, uhm, Almalexia.


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[Assistant] So uhm, I'm becoming Indoran Nerevar and obviously like, you know, the Ordinators are almost, you know, synonymous, like basically all Indoril and they have the visage of their greatest hero Indoran Nerevar on their face.


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[Assistant] And they are the most closely linked temple with, uh, uh, sorry, most closely linked house with the temple, the tribunal temple.


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[Assistant] It's, it's a funny, like, I pointed this out in the, in the Ordinator video, but it's a funny, um, irony when you kind of ba- basically to what is the truth of the tribunal that they betrayed Narevar and-


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[Assistant] And you know, stole power and so on, but because of the doctrine and story that they've spun and they've even like, you know, honored Nerevar and honor him through all of these, you know, tales and stories and, and, and motifs and stuff like that, that all of these ordinators are walking around.


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[Assistant] Wearing Nerevar's face, protecting gods that they, that portrayed Nerevar in the first place, you know what I mean? But obviously they don't know that. This is stuff that just gets carried on in Ashland and Ith and...


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, like for, for them, like I don't think originally, like pre-tribunal,


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[Assistant] That Indoril was necessarily the like hyper-religious, like everyone was very like religious in all four, the good Daedra thing, but everything happens as a natural progression. So, you know, once, you know, they're all into following Indoril Nerevar, obviously he becomes the center point of this new religion. And it's kind of like.


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[Assistant] You know, the tribunal coming and becoming gods is like the coming of Christ. It's sort of like the, you know, um, like you've said before, Drew, the, it's like the new Testament to the old Testament. You know, all of the good Daedra were positioned as the anticipations, these sort of like crueler ancestral forms of.


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[Assistant] Uhm, of the golden age tribunal that had to come, like more civilized gods that are going to bring him into a new age. And that's what really intertwines Indoril.


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[Assistant] But if we just go all the way fast forward to the collapse of the tribunal and when they cried as the false, uhm, emperor as a sort of bid to hold on to as much power as they could.


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[Assistant] As they kind of had, because the house had lost so much power with the tribunal, they kind of really did become synonymous with, uhm, the, the new temple, like, of the faith. So now they, they don't, a lot of their, you know, they say to join the temple is to join Indoril, and that's what one of the priests say in, uhm,


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[Assistant] It's, it's what makes really good world building when you can look at it and you can go like, there's a lot of like Hindu bits in there and trappings and stuff like that, but there is a lot of like Abrahamic sort of Judaism sort of stories and themes in there. Like if you read the 36 lessons of Vivek, like,


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[Assistant] You basically have sort of like the Horta tour, like so in Nerevar in the sense and obviously any future.


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[Assistant] Nerevarine kind of thing that's going to come and rise to that position, but it's sort of like the, the Jesus kind of element, like the prophet. And then, and you've kind of got like the shaman as like this, this is devil figure, this Satan and so on this whole time. So you've kind of got this like.


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[Assistant] You know, biblical opposition and so on and don't worry, you know, and you know, the Nerevarine prophecy, like, you know, he's going to come again, um, Hortador and defeat the shahmat.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? And like, there's a lot of biblical sort of elements in there and then you also like factor in that they have like a whole


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[Assistant] Catalog's a funny word for it, but of saints, like catalog of saints, like, but there's all of these different saints that they have, like there's a lot of, there's a weird mixture of, of things. It's like quite alien, but then there's all of the sort of, um, you know, traditional kind of European things to latch onto, like nightly orders and saints and stuff like that. It's just a really cool mix. But, um,


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[Assistant] I guess we'll, we'll, so Indoril was like super powerful basically, like they were the most dominant house for, for pretty much forever, right up until, to be honest.


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[Assistant] And that's the other thing, like you only talk about like, uh, I guess, cause everyone, no matter what I think, you can see, especially across all like fictional characters and everything, no matter the culture really, you can kind of, everyone kind of gets this sense of there's an admirable, um,


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[Assistant] Something to admire about them is that they, they sort of like stick to their values or their guns. It's kind of when you see the samurai like committing suicide, the seppuku stuff and like that's kind of like a,


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[Assistant] Not my flavor, I don't want to do that, but you can see how it's like a very honorable, like conviction is a very like, uhm.


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[Assistant] It's kind of like a beautiful thing, like it can, I mean it can be a destructive thing, but it's, so when you see in, in, I really do like the story of like the higher up members of uhm, Indoril actually like sticking to their guns and they're like, I'm not going to live in this, you know, they felt betrayed by the tribunal, I'm not going to live in this morrow end under.


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[Assistant] Under Tiber Septum. And then they all kill themselves. But I like how that, you know.


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[Assistant] Had, uh, carry on effects and changed the, uh,


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[Assistant] The, the politics, because now you don't have all of these like hyper-conservative members of


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[Assistant] Yeaah, cause uhm, yeaah, even House Dress loses a lot of land and stuff because of that, if you actually like, cause in the fourth era, we don't know as much, we can only get like Hearsay from Raven Rock, stuff like that, but they seem to be like the dominant great house in the future.


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[Assistant] I've said this plenty of, plenty of times before, but I'm just like, how could they have not conquered all of Morrowind? Like, the things they had working for them. They had, there's these basically a volcano apocalypse, loss of, uh, loss of gods, completely weakened.


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[Assistant] Uhm, all around because of the oblivion crisis as well. And then it's kind of like they still get stopped by just house rhetoric. I know house rhetoric is like, you know, the backbone of the military and they're strong, but


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[Assistant] The fact that they couldn't get past the south is still- do you know what I mean? Like, Andrew- Yeah, go-


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[Assistant] It's just that because of that one Daedra line that they, um, seem to be like, everyone's like, oh, they're like the most powerful race and so on. And I really feel like it's just not the case.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. The, uhm, House Telvanni also got, uh, copped a bit because originally before the DLCs came out, the only hint to Telvanni was, uhm,


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[Assistant] If you go to, I think it's uh, Branche, you go do that quest for him in Riften, you get a book, you find a book for him, and you find out that it reveals his past on this crashed ship, that he was like an escaped Telvanni thing, and it was sort of implying that the house was destroyed.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm pretty sure he wasn't the book was that you go there to get it. You read it and it's basically giving something along the lines of like, you know, one of the last like escaped house tovani things. But then obviously when you get to Raven Rock.


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[Assistant] You see Nell off there and it's like, no, Telvanni is like, you know, they're alive and well, but obviously smaller. But like, if you really think about it, like if you go through all of the modern houses, you've got, um,


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[Assistant] Okay, Halaslalo's gone, replaced by Sadras, but that also just by being a newcomer, I sort of assume they have a lower level of power. Dress has had their territory just walked all over, but then again, it's been like over, well over 150 years since Argonian, um,


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[Assistant] I'm not sure how far like that goes forward into the future though. Like I'm sure they're still like attacking doing things at the bottom. I know that they assaulted Raven Rock at some point earlier in the history. You'll have to find it. But like, the uhm,


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[Assistant] But then you've also got House Indoril, which is basically withered and kind of just become the temple. So they've just, the Reclamation's temple is almost just House Indoril. So they don't really have the same power they used to. Telvanni obviously has shrunken and so on. So the only real big power there is Redoran left. Like there is no one else to really compete with them. Like,


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[Assistant] Maybe their whole day, hey, look, it's a evolution of like, they've always focused on being hardy and sort of duty, honor and, you know, withered the storm. I weathered the storm, sorry. And, um, and all the other houses have fallen except, well, you know, into, you know, weaker positions.


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[Assistant] Yeah, like their whole core religious philosophy anyway is really like live in the present, don't fear erasure in the future and, you know, and stuff like that. But that's why I think it's the, um, Anzalil, um, political party sort of gained power and that sort of seemed like that was the kind of like,


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[Assistant] You know, galvanization to get them to go up there and like get revenge and, and attack. Whereas I don't feel like that, um, cause it's funny because like they actually had just outlawed slavery like a couple of years prior.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but that didn't actually stop at all. What do you mean? No, no, of course it's not going to stop at all, but I'm just saying it's like the, the,


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[Assistant] I guess the worst time for revenge, it's like they finally, it finally did, like Hellseth outla- uhm, the rumors are from Oblivion that Hellseth-


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[Assistant] Outlawed slavery. So slavery is outlawed at the time of oblivion. And then you've got like, I think it's like five years, because the Argon invasion just happens after Red Mountain. It's about five, six years or something. So in about five or six years of like slavery being outlawed and peeled back, they just go on in.


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[Assistant] I have a feeling, like, I've got mixed things, like, this is something that's weird, it's still a point of like, I haven't seen any like, strong, strong evidence for either way, but like,


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[Assistant] Some people sort of treat Morrowind as if it's still part of the empire, but I really don't think it is. Like the whole DLC Dragonborn kind of gives you the impression that it's not. But in that sort of same way, like they don't have a king or, uhm, anymore, like an imperialized sort of monarchy or anything. So I kind of like, you know, Mournhold was just destroyed. So I'm sort of like, I don't really, uhm,


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't think they're being ruled by the Empire and therefore I feel like they'll get back to some more traditional roots and I feel like that's the way it's going just with the reclamations and the resurgence, uhm, of the good Daedra. Like there will be, people would be looking back, like they'll be looking back.


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[Assistant] We can see that Red Mountain is still fuming. So I can, you could kind of imagine that Vvardenfell at least would sort of just be constantly having like those same ash storms that you experience in Morrowind the game, but like kind of all the time. But whereas like there's probably other areas are probably fine. Like it's obviously not going to be the same as if it just blew up because it's been.


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[Assistant] You know, nearly 200 years, like it's been like a, what, 194 or something years like that since, um, it exploded and also the Argonian invasion happened soon after that. So like Morrowind has had.


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[Assistant] You know, over a hundred years to recover, you know, even if all of the damage things really sort of, you know, carried on for say, you know, right up until like year 80 of the fourth era or something, it had all of this other times.


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[Assistant] The biggest most beneficial retcon to Skyrim's storyline would be like putting it, setting it like, you know, 30 years after oblivion instead of 200. Cause then you could just have all of these events sort of happen. They feel like more.


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[Assistant] I think I said on Twitter or something, you could take like the nearly 3000 years of the first era and condense it to about 1400 years and it would still have that sense of like,


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[Assistant] I think it all comes from like a lot of like roots in fantasy is like Lord of the Rings has this massive timeline. It's huge. And it's thousands of years go by and characters live for all of these thousands of years.


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[Assistant] If you wanted to like to feel more like close to realism is like things change really quick. Like look at the last hundred years. It's kind of like how like, uh, you know, like the age of knights in full plate armor and gleaming and so on. Like that kind of lasted for a hundred years and then guns came about as gone. So that was like a hundred years of,


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[Assistant] You know, technology, but what I'm saying is even if you apply this to a fantasy sort of mentality, you could like double the amount of time, triple the amount of time, and it's still such a shorter timeline by comparison to, to Elder Scrolls, or


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[Assistant] It's just, it's just a cool, uhm, little thing. I think you'd...


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[Assistant] I don't know what you mean. But uhm, yeaah, so let's get back on track with the houses.


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[Assistant] House Dress, uh, massive, uh, salt rice plantations. They, uh, they were big, so they were massive fans of slavery. They're staunch defenders of slavery because it's their main labor force. They basically capture Argonians and because Argonians have like, you know, different resistances, they're very adaptable. Um, they use them in these massive,


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[Assistant] Salt rice fields and also like you, you know, use them in mines where potential like


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[Assistant] Toxic noxious gases and stuff like it there that they can survive.


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[Assistant] Because we should throw us a disclaimer. I strongly believe that. Dunmer are like, one of the most xenophobic races, like, peer across all of them, so it's like, like,


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[Assistant] I would say that that's probably the same, like, just extrapolating, it's probably the same as, uhm, House Indoril, for example.


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[Assistant] Rigid, like no, no heresy, you know, like everything that's not.


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[Assistant] Well, no, I think it's just, like, if you read it, read, like, it just reads like it's their philosophy, which just matches up with some of the other houses, like, like Indoril, for example. I think Redoran may be a little less so, but even if you think about Redoran, like, their dedication to clan family and duty and gravity and stuff like that seems like a much more...


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[Assistant] Uhm, and you know, obviously they're more entrenched with the tribune.


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[Assistant] Just anything goes. Like, they really see themselves as like the only, like, you know, out of the elven races as well. Like, obviously, by the way, like, this is a generalization of like, times of their society and so on. Like, there's always gonna be individuals that are against a four because...


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[Assistant] Yeah, but even those kinds of abolitionist kind of groups, they would not have existed before the armistice, you know, before the empire has any control, like looking beforehand. It's, I mean, I know ESO put them in this and like, this is where we get to the whole Ebonhart pact kind of stuff where only a few of the houses join, but then it's kind of,


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[Assistant] Look, I don't- I- I still to this day think that the Ebonheart Pact is like poorly done just because-


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[Assistant] It just annoys me because they could have had an MMO without doing that. That's such a mess. And I know it's only a few houses, but I just, I just don't


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[Assistant] It's just sort of like, then all of a sudden they're like, actually we'll work with, um,


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[Assistant] You know, our greatest enemies and our slaves. You know what I mean? And like work with them. Like, it just kinda sounds silly to me. And I know it's only Eastern Skyrim too, but I mean Eastern Skyrim, if anything, is the more like conservative side of Skyrim.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it just, and I know they go, oh, for the pack, there's all these reasons, but what I'm saying, they're all coat reasons. They're all, it's like all that happened was they could make sense with the Eldmeri Dominion. They could make sense with, um, High Rock, um, to a degree, to a degree, like even the way they wrote in the orcs into that kind of thing, it was like a real,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I actually like how they did that because it was a very temporary thing just to get to the, uh,


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[Assistant] It's, it's just, hey, they're so ideologically opposed and then they're basically just like, oh, we're going to mash the other three races together somehow, you know, and it's like unlikely alliance, but I'm like,


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't like the alliance that, I don't like the story like that anyway, like I just, I wouldn't go with that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think you could split them up differently, like why couldn't you do like a more...


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[Assistant] You know, they did it because of where the Khajiit are in the Aldmeri Dominion in the future, but the Aldmeri Dominion Khajiit thing is very specific, like they made the moons disappear and they sort of rebuilt the kingdoms and took them on as client states kind of thing, but if you went


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[Assistant] Uhm, back, like, you can get away with it, it's still not the most ideal, but I, like, I dunno, even like, uhm,


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[Assistant] I don't know if Khajiit and Argonians, because it just literally the fact is some are not meant to be in alliances in together. Exactly. But that's why I think that whole premise was they just did it for PVP. Yeah.


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[Assistant] The biggest like throw in the thing is that just in terms of like Morrowind's growth, like by the time you get to the armistice and so on, it's supposed to be like, you know, how Sindoril are all committing suicide after they would never do all of these kinds of things and interact with all these other races and have them have any degree of power. But by virtue of being in the Ebonheart pact.


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[Assistant] The others are sort of, they're exerting a sort of power, a sort of cooperation over other houses.


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[Assistant] And like, why weren't they offing themselves when uhm, when they made that alliance with...


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[Assistant] Shit, we might not be able to beat the Empire, so let's actually make a favorable alliance now. And, you know, they saw that Tiber Septim was basically gonna win, so they just played their cards right at the time. But there was a reason for that.


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[Assistant] You know, but when it, when it came to Reamon and now sitting there fully powered.


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[Assistant] Uhm, they were like, they kept on trying to knock him back and, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] You deserve it if you get it. Basically, if you were more cunning or you were, uh, more, uh, you know, intelligent and you had the better plan or the more powerful magic.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's kind of a weird thing because it pits a lot of the house against one another, but they're, they're kind of like, the House Tilvani is kind of like a, it feels I guess even more like the, you know, we were saying like the Thieves Guild kind of feels like a, a union rather than like a tight like,


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[Assistant] Leaf kind of thing, but they're all of these very isolationist, individualistic majors that sort of benefit preserving those protections by being a house.


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[Assistant] It's worth noting that they're like the most, uh, like sort of secular. I kind of don't really care about the tribunal. Like you won't find many religious sort of, uh, people. Like, you know, they might be like base level, but you know what I mean? They're not like, you don't find zealots among the Telvanni typically.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and it's cool, and they've got so many eccentric characters, like uhm, oh my god, I've completely, one of the first one is a, it's the, it's the woman with the, with the naked Khajiit slave and all of the, the gems aligned, uhm,


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[Assistant] I've forgotten her name, but basically she's just this absolutely insane, um, Dunmer woman, powerful mage. And then there's also exam, like, you know, divaith fear, of course, that he's cloned himself for like wife daughters and he's got like a dungeon, which he tries to encourage thieves to go and steal from.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but they can't, you know, they'll probably get killed. It's just got like a bunch of different things going on and, and like, uhm.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and Daveth is just really cool as a long-standing character. There's plenty of ancient wizards here, like, you know, cause you know, he's the oldest supposedly, which is like over...


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[Assistant] Man, I-I really do like how, like, I think Morrowind really did, like, the politics and stuff really well, cause there's so many, like, cross-sections, so you know how, Tilvani, you know, they're all the isolationist kind of things, but they're very staunch defenders of slavery, which sort of makes them, uh, naturally more so allies to House Dress, and House Dress is, uhm, you know, the biggest, uh, offenders of slavery, and they do, uhm,


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[Assistant] And they, you know, all of their sort of agriculture and stuff, but then you've got that sort of cross-section where dress are very, very traditionalist, which crosses with sort of Indoril, which are very conservative and orthodox. And then you've got that, which crosses with house rhetoric and who are like quite, you know, pious family sort of stuff. And that crosses with Indoril. And there's, I just, there's a lot of like, uh, just, you know, interconnectedness.