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[Assistant] In Unidilla, like you did in Washugal, dude, it's, it is game on and I would think to your point, the pendulum is confirmed that it is swung in, in Hayden's, in Hayden's favor. And again, I go back to what you were able to accomplish because I watched you do it.


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[Assistant] Uh, when you first came on the scene, uh, you just, once, once you made that jump, no one was going to beat you unless you beat yourself straight up. And I, and I wanted to share this story.


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[Assistant] Dude, I'll be straight up. I would say like I was at a level, the first four outdoors, I would say. But then when we got to like midway, I was a little bit closer.


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[Assistant] And then the latter half of the season, then I was finally, I feel like I was to a point I made that jump like Hayden did this weekend.


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[Assistant] And I was kind of like worried and you and I, we've had this conversation on title 24 about you're always playing games with yourself and you're like,


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[Assistant] Did I, was that just a fluke or did I really make that next jump?


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[Assistant] And then by gosh, the next weekend I went back and I was still, still running up front. And you know that you did the same exact thing.


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[Assistant] That's where I feel like if I was Hayden, I would be like, okay, can I do this same thing in Udila? And if he does, if he comes out good.


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[Assistant] And that first moto, aw dude, it's going to be fireworks.


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[Assistant] You know, Hayden, you, you just love him guys, but if you look at his history and his trajectory from the year, right? Supercross.


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[Assistant] He's a quick learner. I know on, on, on Vital, he was talking about he learned something, uh, about the bike that has helped him out tremendously. Dude, same like yourself, same like me. Once we, you know, we keep learning, we keep learning, we are able to apply that on the track.


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[Assistant] He has done something wrong, dude, he learns from it and he gets better. Rarely does he make the same mistake twice. Prove me wrong, right?


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[Assistant] He said it again, like in the post race conference.


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[Assistant] I'm now after an excellent performance that I've seen from Hayden and like I've talked about that next step was to be able to run with Hunter two motos.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and not having to rely on something, a misfortune from Hunter, cause that's super hard, you know how that is.


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[Assistant] On the, uh, on the post race interview, so maybe, maybe they need to find a little bit more there on the bike. But nevertheless, I feel like his back's against the wall and.


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[Assistant] Whether, whether Hayden wins the championship or not, I think if Hunter doesn't win this championship, I think he underperforms. I think Hayden has overperformed if it's stopped right now.


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[Assistant] That, that's, that's the way that I look at it, I mean.


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[Assistant] It sucks. It is what it is, but that's how I feel, dude. I mean, he, he has, he's got a great, he's got great team personnel.


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[Assistant] Know that HRC team is great. His dad is really in tune. Johnny O is in tune. I mean, Johnny's worked with the best guys.


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[Assistant] So the race strategy is there and it is straight up to Hunter. I mean, whether the bike is a little off or not, sometimes your bike isn't going to be the best. And I don't think that they're going to be able to get it better than that, that star Yamaha.


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[Assistant] And before the last three rounds, so he's just, he has to go out and he has to execute perfectly straight up. There's no two ways about it.


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[Assistant] You know what? Maybe it's too late. Maybe Hayden can run that pace, dude, and just, and, and wear him down. You know?


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[Assistant] Yep, no, 100%. I think, yep, I think he needs to do that at this point. I don't think that he should start next to Hayden. I feel like he needs to go more to the inside.


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[Assistant] He needs to go out and he needs to execute in my mind. If I'm coaching him part of that.


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[Assistant] Uh, execution is lining yourself up in the proper, proper start, proper position on the start, right? Based on where uh, Hayden is, so.


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[Assistant] Is not always playing offense. Part of it is you have to have a good defense plan.


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[Assistant] You know, and, and put yourself in position. I feel like if Hunter can be up in that top three, top four on the start, that's different than being seventh.


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[Assistant] I'm saying it now, if Hayden backs up this performance at Unidilla, it is game on, dude. He is...


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[Assistant] Outside of, outside of those two guys, I mean, we've chewed up so much time on, on just the 250 class and it was a lot like last week with, with Chase and, and the Jets scenario. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Uhm, last one for the two fifties and we're gonna move on. Uh, we talked about we needed to see, uh, we needed to see.


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[Assistant] I think, I think after this week's performance at Washugo, he goes, if he rides the same way he does in, in Unidilla, like he did in, uh, Washugo, then stamp it 120%. If not, I think you need to consider, uh, Justin Cooper, just because Justin Cooper, uh, he raised up last year, did a hell of a job. Um, so.


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[Assistant] But if he rides the same way, dude, it's stamp it. What do you think?


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[Assistant] Then with that, then for sure I'm going Deegan.


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[Assistant] He's gonna get better. Dude, he's gonna get better. From, from this point on, he's gonna get better.


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[Assistant] On the 450 recap of Wash Ugo. Let's thank our sponsors. Again, United Motorsports, united motorsports.com. Great company. If you're in Ohio.


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[Assistant] Or Kentucky region, they got six stores, uh, check them out and, um, eh, they have pretty much everything that you need.


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[Assistant] Uhm, of course Boxo is in there. Uhm, they're in stores actually.


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[Assistant] Uh, check out their Instagram post. Uh, I'm always talking about their lifetime warranty. Well, they just made a post today on Instagram box. So USA.


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[Assistant] And uh, they, they explain, basically they got a great tutorial on what that process looks like. So go check out their Instagram post, they just posted it this morning.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then of course, last but not least, quad lock case. Uh, quad lock case is, uh, I think it's the leading case. Uhm, they do a great job. Looking forward to using it. We're gonna do an adventure ride next week. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm gonna have the vibration dampener on there.


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[Assistant] As well as it comes with a phone charger, so make sure you guys tag along. We're going to be doing live updates. So uhm, yeaah, we appreciate you guys. Jett wins again. I mean, listen,


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[Assistant] Well, I'm gonna have to take your approach, which is a great approach. Uh, I would reach out to, uh, Fowler's facts, Clinton Fowler.


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[Assistant] I would get a rundown of all the data. Won't have much on Barsha.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I feel like Barsha, he loves Europe. Uhm, so that, that is consideration. So I know he hasn't raced much outdoors, but I just know he likes that vibe. At least I feel like he does. And he's a gamer, and he's a gamer.


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[Assistant] He has, he'll race you hard and dude, you know, like you can rattle those guys' cages. I wouldn't say.


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[Assistant] Super easy, but you can rattle him up a little bit. Uh, so he would be great at that. Uhm, Plessinger.


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[Assistant] No, no, I was just gonna say if Anderson keeps doing what he's doing.


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[Assistant] I think that maybe you, maybe you take him and the reason that I say that, RB.


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[Assistant] It's because he has championship experience and running upfront against the best guys in the world. And uhm, I think that he's, he's, you know, getting towards the end of his career.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, he's, he's, he's 30 now. He's got a kid. So I think that the incentive to want to do well will be a little more elevated because he, you know, time is running out.


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[Assistant] And he'll want to maybe he thinks, or maybe this will be his last opportunity. So you have a little bit of extra.


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[Assistant] I feel like he's really embracing, uh, the racing scene right now.


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[Assistant] Uh, so that's why I think that if he can continue to put in a couple more strong rides and he will get better because he's going to have more time on the bike.


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[Assistant] I think he'd probably be the, he'd be the 450 guy.


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[Assistant] Okay. So you talk about that and you talk about chase. What is the, when is the date for, for MX of nations? Is it the 1st of October?


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[Assistant] If it's the first of October, I mean, is Chase riding at KTM?


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[Assistant] If I'm, if I'm, if I'm Sexton and you just have to assume that he, you know, the, the transfer date from, from Honda to KTM is October 1.


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[Assistant] Only way I'm doing it, because let's listen.


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[Assistant] You gotta think he's ridden a bike by now, right? So he knows what he's got, don't you think?


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[Assistant] So uhm, that's what I was saying, like, for, for Chase.


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[Assistant] Only way you go over there on that KTM is if you ride that bike for the first time and the thing is exponentially better where, you know, like you're, you're going from, let's just say a seven and 10 being the best on handling.


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[Assistant] And you're going from a seven to eight right now to nine and a half. Like I feel then chase could feel comfortable because I know for me, I wouldn't want to go, um, on a bike that is, is not performing at the top level on one of the biggest stages that we ever see, you know, right.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't want to put myself in that kind of exposure as much as I would love to race for the team and represent the country.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't, I also wouldn't want to underperform for the country as well, you know? If there's something better. So, that'd be interesting.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. That was good. That was good. Big question. Uhm, Jett goes, uh, Jett, Jett wins. Ah, well another one.


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[Assistant] Shocker. Okay, like what, what kind of controversy or not even controversy, but what kind of story are we going to try to make up before Unidiluv?


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[Assistant] Uhm, he challenged, uhm, Jett almost to the end this weekend and, and looks like he hit neutral. I mean...


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm with you. I mean, listen, I saw some comments and stuff like that about, oh my gosh.


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[Assistant] Jet was making mistakes and all that. And I'm like, listen guys, he's like, he's human. He's going to make mistakes. I never saw. I know how many mistakes me and you made.


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[Assistant] I mean, his feet wasn't hanging off and he wasn't hanging on by one arm, kinda like you and I, like, when we almost crashed, dude, we almost crashed.


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[Assistant] Dude, if your feet doesn't come off the foot pegs, you're not out of control in mind.


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[Assistant] That's the limit. So he's going to be pushed to the limit. He's going to make mistakes. Yes, he is great. He's phenomenal. He does amazing things on the motorcycle.


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[Assistant] That is, so everyone listening, if you're listening to title 24 or you're watching us on Peacock, what, what RV just said is key.


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[Assistant] And he's exactly right. He's a hundred percent right. And, uh, you just, like, Chet was getting pressured this weekend and I didn't see where he freaked out.


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[Assistant] I think he definitely stepped it up for sure. And you know, he pushed it more.


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[Assistant] But he didn't ride over his limit. Did he hit make a couple of mistakes? Of course he did. Dude, the track wasn't perfect. It was brutal. You're going to have little slip ups, but and I don't.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's what I want to see. I want to see how he reacts. Does he turn it up and the guy is going...


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[Assistant] Like crazy, go back and watch some Jet Lawrence's and this is, this will be, this will be a great reference for everyone listening and watching this show.


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[Assistant] Go back and watch Jet when he did that gnarly nose wheelie at Anaheim when he was a rookie. Okay? That's riding out of control.


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[Assistant] I haven't seen that and that's what I'm basing, like what you're saying and what you and I have been saying. That's what I'm basing it on. I don't see that kind of stuff.


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[Assistant] You're so cocky, bro. I love it. Yeah, I know, right? So uhm.


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[Assistant] I wanted to play this soundbite from Jason Anderson. He, he's been, he's been in this sport for a long time. He's raced some of the greats. Uh, he's done really well and you wonder like,


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[Assistant] I listen to what he says just because he's been there, he's done that and he sees it, he's in the trenches, I mean.


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[Assistant] I see him, you know, on TV and I'll see him ride and you know, like live, but I'm not riding motorcycles with these guys, but.


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[Assistant] We have some sound from Jason after the race. Let's uh, let's listen and see what he has to say.


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[Assistant] All right. I want to, I want to comment really quick RV because I would love to share this. I don't even think that I've talked to you about this, but I want to share it with the people tuning in.


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[Assistant] To the pod. So I wrote down some notes here. That's what I'm looking to decide.


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[Assistant] And I love what Jason says there. There's, there's so much there.


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[Assistant] He's right about everything that he says, I think for where he's at.


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[Assistant] Uhm, well, number one, for sure, I, I would hang it out. I wasn't worried about being as precise. That was my way to beat certain guys. I knew that if I was willing, perfect example, I knew that uhm, that Reedy wasn't going to hang it out. He, you know, he rode right in his limit and his limit was hella fast, for sure.


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[Assistant] But if I was willing to take that risk, I knew that he wasn't going to, and if I could gap him.


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[Assistant] That would help, but I wrote something down, like, and I think that people would like to listen to this, I said,


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[Assistant] I was in the same spot he was in, Jason Anderson, with Stu in 2006. Uh, I didn't change, so going into 2007, I wasn't going to race the championship because obviously I wasn't racing.


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[Assistant] All year. So in that offseason, what I did, and James and I actually talked about this.


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[Assistant] James was so good at just firing off, right? Those first couple laps, like he didn't need to get warmed up or anything. So that off season.


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[Assistant] Uh, dude, I would take like a siding lap at the practice track during the week.


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[Assistant] Make sure it was good. Make sure there were no wet spots so I could just fire off instantly and do like as fast as I could go within, within control. But I was going for giving it a hundred percent.


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[Assistant] I actually trained myself, not my writing style.


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[Assistant] But just how I raced to where I could be more explosive earlier.


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[Assistant] And I did more longer sprints. I was doing like six laps sprints, eight laps sprints, like three or four sets at a time.


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[Assistant] And that helped me like when I went into 2007 racing part time to, to Jason, like.


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[Assistant] He's still trying to learn from this 19 year old that he's not necessarily going to change all of his riding style.


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[Assistant] I did that same thing going into 2007 and I saw massive improvements. Number one, I was able to ride that edge early and I think also that helped me out with arm pump.


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[Assistant] My body learned to be explosive early, like my arms did. So I didn't, my, my forearms didn't blow up. So I think he's right on. I don't think that where he's at.


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[Assistant] He needs to change his riding style. I think that if he can be a little more precise and be craftier.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be hard to do just because, you know, that saying old dog new tricks can be tough, but, uh,


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[Assistant] I, I still like how he's a student and I never think we stopped being students. Hell, I just told you a story. I wasn't, I wasn't even going for a championship, but I saw the results and the,


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[Assistant] You were always leading, so I don't feel like you ever had to.


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[Assistant] No, no, I wouldn't go, I wouldn't do that. I would just like, instead of 15, I'd go.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't, just my speed wasn't where it needed to be early.


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[Assistant] That, so that was always my biggest thing with Stu or if Reedy when they had me on the rivet or all the guys that were a little bit faster than me that given day, they were so good at sprinting early.


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[Assistant] And when I did that, I could run the speed, but my arms would just blow up.


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[Assistant] So then I, I just had to re-change, you know, the way that, that I practiced.


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[Assistant] Right. You know, that, that, and that makes complete sense.


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[Assistant] Dude, did you know, I mean, I'm sure you know about your whole career, but, uh, you know, you never lost for the people that listen to this show.


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[Assistant] And watch his show that RV never lost a championship. Okay. Without getting.


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[Assistant] Outside of, outside of getting hurt. Uh, you didn't win your rookie 2009 450 season, but you were sick, so you only raced 13 times.


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[Assistant] Uh, you didn't win 2010 Supercross because you got injured.


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[Assistant] Then you won the last four SX titles. You won both 2011 and 2013 MX seasons. 2009 you were injured. You missed 2010, 2012.


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[Assistant] We had very, very similar careers, and I don't know that a lot of people know that, but dude, that's gnarly.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what do you think, uh, let me ask you this, dude. I know you like, like, just kind of...


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[Assistant] Listening to what people have to say or reading what people have to say.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're being reactive and not proactive. 100%. That's exactly how I was because I was like this.


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[Assistant] You name it, whether it was K-Dub in my early days, whether it was MC, Lusk, uh, you know, then, then, then Chad, then Stu, like at the end of the day, if they're going to beat me, they're going to beat me, but I'm going to do what I think I need to do.


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[Assistant] And whatever happens, happens. I didn't think about anything. I wasn't worried about what Reedy was doing during the week. I wasn't worried about what Stu was doing. Now, as far as like,


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[Assistant] Like for me, if we went to a track, like I didn't think about anything like going back to Reedy or Stu.


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[Assistant] On the week or like I said, even the other guys, like I knew where they were good.


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[Assistant] Then I'm like, okay, dude, I have a really good shot, you know, like I'll be, it'll be even playing field or if it was hard pack, I'm like, okay, my bike is going to be great tonight. I'll be strong in these parts. These guys will be strong there. I just need to.


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[Assistant] Pay attention and take notice of where I need to execute and really put the emphasis on the track, not overthink it, just do it.


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[Assistant] Yep, totally. Uhm, before we get to the quad lock question, really quick, did you see, uh, on RacerX where, uh, Kiefer and Mathis rode the, uh, factory HRC bikes? They rode Hunter's bike. Yep, I got that.


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[Assistant] So I saw where Kiefer said he rode, he rode the bikes. And they all did.


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[Assistant] And so this is what I want to ask, like we're going to have to watch the podcast obviously to see how, see what the, uh, see what the results were, but.


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[Assistant] Here's what I'm one, here's what I'm, I'm thinking. If Jet's bike handles better.


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[Assistant] And RV, you know this, that it's going to the points later. You, you've earned that right.


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[Assistant] Right, good stuff. Yeah, that's gonna be inter- I'm actually- I'm interested to see what they say.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, and, and if, and some of the guys, like if Mathis or Kiefer, I don't even know who else wrote it, but if it's just those two guys.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, maybe, maybe Jett's setup is better for one of those guys compared to Chase's or vice versa. Maybe Chase's setup is better to that specific rider. That'll be interesting to see, but I'm with you.


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[Assistant] And if I guarantee you, if I asked Johnny O this, I'm sure he was going, he would tell me, yeah, that they, they got their bikes set up to, so where it's going to perform pretty good at on all conditions. And I feel myself personally, I feel that's, that's the way it needs to go.


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[Assistant] Uh, this quad lock question of the week comes from Oliver 46 underscore 2. Forkner took another hard hit.


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[Assistant] I agree. And so to answer your question, first of all, oliver46 underscore two.


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[Assistant] Thanks for the question. That is, that is awesome.


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[Assistant] RV is 100% right. I don't need to elaborate on it. I mean, it comes down to decision making.


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[Assistant] Lord knows I've made plenty of bad racing decisions, especially early on, but I was able to learn, especially those first couple years in the 250 class. It's just like, I had a decision.


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[Assistant] To either gassed it or not and I did and I ended up laying on the ground. I can't blame the track. I can't blame the bike. It was on me 120% and you just have to.


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[Assistant] You know, you have to know the circumstances, you have to know your surroundings and you have to be willing to, to, to slow down a little bit. Or hey, I got, first of all,


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[Assistant] In this particular situation, as we're talking about Foreigner, he got a bad jump out of the gate. So automatically you have to be more aware of your situation. And the same thing happened at A1, just, uh, you know, just, yeaah.


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[Assistant] He's getting squeezed in. Yeah. And then one, I don't know who we got caught up in.


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[Assistant] So there you go, uh, Oliver, uh, DM us and then, uh, our man, JH, we'll get you lined up with, uh, Quadlock and we'll get you some great Quadlock, uh, product. Thank you, uh, Quadlock for the question of the week and supporting you. You guys are doing a great job.


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[Assistant] As far as motorsports this weekend, there is no, we got a couple of weeks off from the Promoto Cross Championship. However, you can still get your MX fix. Norwegian JT on SMX Insider Thursday at 2 PM on YouTube. Saturday, the Xfinity Series is in Wisconsin.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's gonna be good. 2.30 PM Eastern, Road America on NBC.


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[Assistant] At Richmond, that's on the, that's gonna be on the USA Network.


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[Assistant] Make sure you check in. Dude, that's a short track. It's going to be epic in the world. Superbike. Check round.


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[Assistant] Larson doesn't think that's the way it went down. Nevertheless, it'll be, uh, it'll be fun to watch, no doubt. I will say Denny, Denny Hamlin runs really good at Richmond.


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[Assistant] Uh, but Kyle Larson won earlier this year in Richmond.


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[Assistant] And of course, Boxo USA. Remember, if you want a 10% discount, promo code is title24. I know everyone likes to save a little bit of cheddar.


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[Assistant] Pretty cool. Remember you can listen to it on the Amazon music. Head over to Amazon.com slash NBC Sports to get all the peacock shows.


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[Assistant] And always remember, leave your comments and questions. We'll get to them, uh, as much as, uh, we'll get to as many as we possibly can.


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[Assistant] R.V., this is my last little, uh, uh, vacation. And by the way, we have, uh, no show next week. We're gonna be taking off. So, uh, this is my last little vacation.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's the last week, basically, the kids have off before they go back to, uh, to school. I know this is crazy, but your kids are growing fast. My kids are going to start their, uh, sophomore year of high school. So that's pretty, that, that's my. Tell me about it.


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[Assistant] Hello everyone, welcome to Title 24 presented by NBC Sports. I'm Ricky Carmichael, got my co-host Ryan Villapoto right there.


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[Assistant] And before we get going, like always, we've got to thank United Motorsports, Quadlock Case, and Boxo USA. Thank you guys so much. Great companies and proud that we have you backing us. So thank you very much for all the support and of course, always our viewers and our fans.


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[Assistant] RV, it was a, it was a wild one, and I'm gonna rip the Band-Aid off straight off. We're coming out of the gate hard today here on Title 24. We got some, uh, we got some sound and some video from, from Jet Lawrence and the wave by, uh, let's roll that.


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[Assistant] Cause I'm like, dude, what, what, what's he doing? Like I thought something maybe was wrong with his motorcycle. Cause in one reason that I thought that was because Joe had that issue in the second moto. So I'm like, Oh dude, something's wrong. Something's wrong with his motorcycle and you're watching right here. And he goes by.


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[Assistant] And he's like, get on by. He like, he waves, can he by? That's the talk of the town. But then he just, he's kind of like chilling. And I thought that he was looking down at his bike.


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[Assistant] Uhm, a few sections later, this is when they were coming back onto the track, remember?


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[Assistant] Uh, on the far end of the track, they, uh, they went out of the stadium and came back down. But anyhow, dude, uh, so go for it. What do you think? You have the word.


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[Assistant] Well, it didn't affect anything, but I just wanna say, and this is my take on it.


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[Assistant] Uh, I, I thought that you would honestly, being straight up, I thought you'd been like, dude, that was an unbelievable move.


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[Assistant] I think that the mindset and the intent was, was awesome. He was, he wanted to make up the points. He talked about it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you can see that's why, that's why he did it. I truly believe that. I don't care what anyone, if they try to debate me.


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[Assistant] I mean, he, he wanted Ken to, to get leapfrog chase and gain a few extra points. Now I'm no, I'm, I'm not great at math and you know, he, he got the math wrong.


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[Assistant] But the, I, I take, I take that part out of it. I, and I just look at what he was trying to do mathematically even though it didn't, it didn't work out in the mindset. I think it's brilliant.


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[Assistant] It shows you how advanced he is, uhm, you know, he'll eventually get better at that stuff. It's hard to do, like, we were talking before we went on today and it's like, dude, I, it,


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[Assistant] Sometimes it's hard for me to start juggling around, you know, like,


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[Assistant] What is a 2-3 versus a 3-1 and a 1-2? And so it gets confusing. So, uh, I just like, I like where his head's at.


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[Assistant] And just trying to add up every little advantage as possible.


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[Assistant] Uh, as much as possible. That's, that's where I'm going for. It's pretty, pretty incredible. Just another like,


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[Assistant] I think it's another example just to show how advanced he is, not just...


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[Assistant] By riding the motorcycle and racecraft and all that, but from the, from the mind game as well and, and where his head's at. That, that, that's what I think.


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[Assistant] Like I said, the points and how it didn't get given him an advantage. It's not necessarily that, that I'm more impressed by. It's just like where his, where his thinking was. So.


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[Assistant] You know, he's going to take a beating, I'm sure, but, uh, you know, and say, well, it didn't even matter, but the people who are saying that should take notice of, like I said, what I just told you, like where his head is at and the little advantages that he's.


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[Assistant] He's trying to do, he's not always going to get it right. That's for sure. So when you were watching, were you kind of fooled by it too?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, there is a rule in the, in the rule book to where you, you're, you're not supposed to pull over, let someone by and basically,


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[Assistant] I don't know exactly how it reads, but essentially you're affecting what the natural turnout would have been. You know, it's like whether if people are gambling.


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[Assistant] Like predetermining the results basically is what he did and that's a violation. So he got a written warning for that.


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[Assistant] So he was trying to fix the finishes like the overall and basically that's what he was warned. Hey, you can't do that. So, uh, he broke the rule books. Um, I, I wasn't even aware of that. Honestly, that rule, I think it was just implemented this year. Do not hold me to that.


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[Assistant] I'm torn. I'm 50-50. I think if I'm the guy that's doing it to try to help me points-wise, uhm, I'm...


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[Assistant] I think that I had the smarts to think of that.


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[Assistant] And to help my position going into the points, but if I'm on the other side of the token, of course I'm.


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[Assistant] I'm pissed, right? I don't like it. You shouldn't be allowed to do it, but that leads me into what we were.


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[Assistant] So that, that conversation I was having with some people yesterday, I mean, dude, they do it in F1 all the time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well there is actually bets, it's uh, NXT bets.


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[Assistant] But I mean, it's a dude, it's so new, you know what I mean? And at the end of the day, okay, it's the, it's a newer rule and.


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[Assistant] He did, he let it, he let Kenny by to try to advance, uh, Kenny's finishing position and points and, and, and in turn that would- So, Ricky, let me-


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[Assistant] And he had a strategy. Yeah, he could certainly blame it on that. For sure. You're a hundred percent right. And I thought about this too.


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[Assistant] If I'm him, now, now, like, we're basically telling guys how to cheat the rule. It's like, you can do that. Okay? And then that's just what you go by.


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[Assistant] And then it'd be up to the, to the officials to, to make that judgment call like, okay.


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[Assistant] You can always play this card. Yeaah, uhm, he didn't want to badmouth his bike. Maybe something was wrong with his motorcycle and he didn't want to broadcast on live television that there was a mechanical with his motorcycle protecting the nature of Honda. You can play that card.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and then at that point, so if he goes back and he, he refutes the call, right. Then I know then who's to say that he.


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[Assistant] He wasn't, he wasn't being truthful. Like maybe there was something was with their bike. So yeah, the, the rule is definitely going to need to be tweaked for sure.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so outside of all the strategy, uhm,


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[Assistant] You said on last week's show that dude, he needed to come out and he needed to, he had to perform. He had to go out and win. That's how you thought he needed to handle it.


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[Assistant] Hey, uh, Tegan Murdoch says, does this give either Jett or Ken the mental edge over the other? So Tegan, uh, appreciate the, uh,


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[Assistant] Appreciate the engagement on, uh, on, on, on title 24 and asking us questions.


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[Assistant] I, I mean myself, I'm, I'm assuming that Tegan is talking about the battle this weekend and does it give Jett or, or can the advantage? I don't, I don't think so. I, I still, as well as Chase did.


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[Assistant] At Charlotte and then we go back to this past weekend in Chicago and then Ken's been pretty solid both, both events. Uh, I, I still, dude, I still think Jet has the advantage.


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[Assistant] So Kenny, Kenny was pretty outspoken. He took to the gram.


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[Assistant] On his, uh, on his thoughts. And we have, uh, we have the text or the post from that. Uh, there's the second main.


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[Assistant] Well, I could care less about the oh so kind baby gift from Jet. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. The map didn't make a difference whatsoever on the overall anyway. Yeah, I mean.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm taking any gifts anybody can give me myself while I'm sitting here in a chair talking about what would happen.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, you definitely, I mean, looking back, I'm, I'm all for gifts.


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[Assistant] I, I think if you're Ken, you certainly want to believe that you broke, I read some stuff on, on, on all the social media platforms about how he broke Kenny and, er, he broke, Kenny broke Jet, blah, blah, blah. I mean, if you're Ken, you have to tell yourself that,


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[Assistant] You know, you kept him close, you reeled him back in, you made him crack.


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[Assistant] And you, you basically pass them back. I mean, what are you going to say? Right? If you can.


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[Assistant] I think Jett straight up slowed down to, to let him buy. Jett said it. That was his initial reaction. And the reason also that I believe that, and we got, we could talk about this all day. If you go and you look at like Jett after the podium and how candid he was on the podium, dude, you,


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[Assistant] He's a fierce competitor. He was pretty dang open, uh, Friday and Saturday morning about how he wants to win and losing sucks. I mean, you know, he was, he was pretty aggressive with his words and wanted to come out and win basically.


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[Assistant] He's the only guy who, uh, put his hand up at the press conference on, on Friday. And you just, he didn't even look bummed at all on the podium.


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[Assistant] Like, if, if I got beat like that and somebody cracked me, I wouldn't be joking and having a good time. I don't think he's bluffing. As my, my friend.


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[Assistant] Kenny's gonna need a little bit of help, I think, especially if Chase, just assuming Chase.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and Jet go, you know, are in the top three, so he'll need a little help from, from, from some of his competitors, but, uh, it's worked out, it's worked out great. Uh, last, last thing about Jet, uh, D.


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[Assistant] Like our producer says, money dude, would you been like, oh yeah, cashing in.


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[Assistant] No, you're right. Hey, what about, uh, so Chase Sexton, uhm,


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[Assistant] I don't, he even said, like, he just, he felt like he, he didn't have the pace. Uhm, I'm like...


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[Assistant] I say this and then people are gonna hammer on me about it, but I feel like...


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[Assistant] You have to find a way to be the best every single weekend or run up front or as close as you can to the front. I know he's trying his hardest. Uh, do you feel, um, after what you saw this weekend, do you feel like, uh, he, he, he's where he needs to be going into LA?


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[Assistant] Right. Hey, Aaron Jones, 17, he says, was Chase being cautious, realizing it wasn't his style track?


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[Assistant] He definitely wasn't being cautious at the beginning of the first moto.


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[Assistant] From what I saw, dude, he was, he was going after it trying to get by Barsha really quick. And then he got right on the back end of.


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[Assistant] of Jet, I mean, he had way more intensity than, than Jet did, especially those first couple laps. He was all over him like, oh dude, he's gonna pass, he's gonna pass Jet. And then he just started to fall back. So I, I, okay, this is where I go back to.


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[Assistant] When chase had those struggles in super cross and he had the struggles in outdoor. If I'm hoping for him.


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[Assistant] Based on the mistakes he made all season long that maybe, maybe he did take a step back and he let, and he was like, okay, second or third is all I got today. I can't hit the deck.


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[Assistant] So I, I hope for him and the learning curve, I hope that he took it easy and just surrendered to what position he was gonna get. Uh, but it, it's...


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[Assistant] Then again, it's, it's hard to tell because these guys are riding so good. So did he just get straight? I mean, he got straight up beat, but how much did he play it safe? 16 seconds off the back.


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[Assistant] Is, I think, a little overboard for playing it safe, to your point.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, one thing, and then we'll switch gears, uh, we'll switch gears and get off, get off this 450, but, uh,


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[Assistant] Dude, AP was fast. He was fast this weekend. He looked comfortable on the bike.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, the track was more outdoorsy. I loved how it was a completely different style track than, uh, than...


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[Assistant] Uh, Charlotte, uh, but dude, he was, he was rolling just those dang starts. You know, I think it would have been cool to see him get a better start. His box score was in reflection of how fast he was, which comes at a great time.


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[Assistant] I thought he wrote great. It'd be cool to see him, uh, put in another good one and get a good start and run well, uh, this weekend in LA. Did you get a chance to watch him? He was rolling.


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[Assistant] Uh, quadlockcase.com, we use all of their product as well. Uh, on our adventure bikes last week, um, just a great company. They're making massive moves. They got what you need.


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[Assistant] We talk about it every single weekend, uhm, you know, how organized they, uh, their toolboxes are.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I know the Monster Energy Star Yamaha team runs them. So, uh, if you're in the paddock this weekend at the LA Coliseum, go check out, uh, go check out the stuff. Uh, it's pretty cool. And they're a lifetime warranty.


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[Assistant] Pretty simple process. All you gotta do is take a picture, send it to them, and then they will send you a new tool back.


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[Assistant] All you gotta do, like I said, hit title 24 for 10% off and it's site-wide on anything on all of those three people's sites. So thank you guys for that. Moving along to the 250 class.


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[Assistant] I didn't think anyone was gonna go 1-1 in the 250 class. I think we talked about it on last week's show. Again, keep going back to last week's show. Uh, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't think Hunter was gonna be able to go 1-1.


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[Assistant] He was, he was running well and just, I mean, duty couldn't crack Hunter and then that, that little inside rut.


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[Assistant] You know, if you guys watch Deegan, for the people that are listening to, uh, title 24, you're watching us on, uh, on YouTube.


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[Assistant] Uhm, watch Deegan how much he, how far he lays the bike over. Well, he laid the bike over a little too far in that left-hander. Yea, and it grabbed his foot due to it almost pulled him off the bike and then he wasn't able to double the finish line. That's how.


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[Assistant] That's how Hunter got by him, but uh, what, what'd you like?


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[Assistant] Yeah, he wrote, uh, Phenomely. Dude, I, I don't know, like, and I don't know if you've kind of noticed this. I don't, I don't, like, it just seems like...


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[Assistant] I don't know. Hunter just seems like he's over it for some reason. I don't know if he's mentally.


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[Assistant] Already onto the 450 class for next year. It's been a long season. He's had a hell of a season, by the way, winning the regional.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and this is switching gears to Joe. Uh, 902 Nick says, can anyone match Joe's speed if he is trouble free next week? Ooh.


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[Assistant] Dude, I, that dude's the fastest guy on the track, I feel like. I gotta go back and research the, uh, lap times. Uhm, I can't remember if he turned the fastest lap, uhm, of both mains, but certainly looks like he had more speed than anyone else. What do you think?


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[Assistant] Look at that uppercut, dude. Here we go. We're rewatching it right now. So he was using this outside line the whole time.


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[Assistant] Coming back, uh, the corner coming back across the start straight.


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[Assistant] Then the, uh, actual dirt that was brought onto the track, go for it.


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[Assistant] It's probably like, uh, you can't see crap, you know, you're like, dude, what's going on?


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[Assistant] Dude, hey, the guy was going for, I, I do think he, uhm, I think they're, I think Degan can match his speed.


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[Assistant] So maybe, and he's a great starter in nature, so is Justin Cooper. So I think there's a lot of guys that this is their last chance at glory. And RV, you have been open and upfront about it the whole time.


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[Assistant] Uh, there is a lot of money on the line. There's a lot of points on the line, but most of all money on the line. If you guys thought that the intensity level was high this weekend in Chicago, watch out this weekend. And it's super cross.


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[Assistant] Uh, but there's a lot of guys and the intensity is going to be at an all-time high for obvious reason. It means 500 grand.


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[Assistant] Uh, for the SMX World Championship in the 250 class, that is nothing to sneak, nothing.


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[Assistant] Hey, uh, Savannah Leach, uhm, with the bike changes Cowie made, will Joe regret switching teams next year?


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[Assistant] Tuned in, uhm, to the podcast. When you're on an underpowered motorcycle.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's tough because now you're having to ride harder. So then you're getting more fatigued and then the bike isn't working quite as well as probably it should because you're asking so much out of it. It's just like everything starts to compound. So I agree 100% with you.


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[Assistant] Beating up, uh, beating up Chicago land and talking about it. Uh, Deegan.


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[Assistant] Said he's gonna go Deegs mode in LA. And this is where I feel like moments.


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[Assistant] Moments like, uh, what we will see in LA for the SMX World Championship, 500 grand on the line. He hasn't won a Supercross. Uhm, this is gonna be his opportunity, number one, to get his first Supercross win and his first SMX World Championship. Uhm,


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[Assistant] It's twofold. Uhm, let's see here. Jacob underscore chances. Does deegan ghost ride it if he wins in LA? I have my opinion, but I want to get yours.


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[Assistant] Yep, make, yeaah, get clearance, make sure no one's around and, and let that thing go now. I will say that the, when Brian did it in 97, that jump is, is 10 times smaller than what, uh, these guys are gonna see this weekend. So it's gonna be a bit harder to do it on the jump if he does it, uh, selfishly.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I think it's gonna be fun and, and, and like the 450 class, dude, it's a three-way tie. Well, not a three-way tie, but a three-way winner take all. Uh, super tight.


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[Assistant] Yep, it makes sense. I think if, I think myself personally, I feel if you're, if you're Hunter and Diggs is behind you, you better watch out, cause...


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[Assistant] Yep, it's gonna be epic, you know, and we talked about it a little bit on the show.


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[Assistant] But it's crazy when you think about when you and I and the rest of us were at that press release at the LA Coliseum almost a year ago, last October, and


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[Assistant] Would we have ever thought that there would be basically a winner-take-all for three riders in both classes at 250 and 450?


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[Assistant] I didn't think so. I mean, obviously we all hope that, right? I mean, it's just, it's like the perfect storm. It's perfect. And, and it's in the whole SMX, uh, world championship has, has panned out, uh, to be something really special. We're going to give away some stuff. Quad lock question of the week.


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[Assistant] This is a good one. Uh, let's see here. It is from Mike underscore Reagan underscore fabricator. Uh, Mike, we appreciate you.


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[Assistant] Uh, his question is, this is a really good one, and this is why it kinda leads us to what we were just talking about. Hey guys, love the show.


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[Assistant] You know, I, I think that the SMX formula is certainly, we're gonna have to change some stuff. And there's nothing wrong with that. Every, every major organization, sports organization does it. They, they tweak things, rules, point systems, whatever it may be. I do like,


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[Assistant] I kind of pick up what he's saying, what Mike is saying. I like that elimination element of it.


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[Assistant] Right on the second round and the third round and makes it a little more realistic, but I don't think that.


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[Assistant] I certainly didn't anticipate this, uh, when the rules were set and the scoring and the points were set. Uhm, it was, I thought it was good. So I think that, I like that, I like that idea. What's your thoughts? You think there should be...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like, that's a, that's a, yep. I, I think that there will be an adjustment and you know, that, that was to be expected. I think it's for the first year, inaugural season of it. I think it's worked out well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I know that everyone is open to suggestions and they've been reading some of our questions.


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[Assistant] Uh, the people, you know, the powers that be have seen this stuff and they like some of these ideas.


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[Assistant] So I believe, uh, I believe it will be tweaked. I do like that. Some type of elimination would be cool. It'll give other guys opportunities to get in, like you said, RV. So, uh, thank you, Mike, Reagan.


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[Assistant] Turn the page. Big, uh, big weekend, obviously, in motorsports for NBC. Always remember, check out MX, uh, SMX Insider with Igen Weege and JT. That's on YouTube.


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[Assistant] Always on Thursdays and then, uh, Saturday, uh, 3 PM Eastern NASCAR Xfinity Series is in Texas. Uh, that'll be on USA and then you can check, uh, RV out on race day live. That starts 4 30 PM.


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[Assistant] Uh, that'll be live, uh, on Peacock, so all practicing and qualifying some in-depth analysis by my co-host on Title 24. Uh, RV's been doing a great job, so he will be on site. And then of course at 10 PM Eastern, live on USA and Peacock, uh,


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[Assistant] There'll be a special pre-race, uh, at 9.30 Eastern and then the SMX championship final.


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[Assistant] L.A. Coliseum. Make sure you check it in. Sunday, MotoGP's Grand Prix of India. That'll be on NBC.


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[Assistant] 3pm Eastern, uh, NASCAR Cup Series is at Texas, that's on USA, and then there's an Encore presentation.


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[Assistant] Uh, the SMX championship in LA Coliseum on Sunday, if you don't happen to check it out, uh, live, uh, late Saturday night, if you're on the East coast. So, uh, fun times, a lot to look forward to, uh, on NBC Sports Sunday. Uh, looking ahead to LA.


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[Assistant] Dude, I am so pumped. Like we talked about it, uh, RV, three-way tie, brother. Uhm, or not tie, I keep saying that. Dang it, I keep saying that. There's a, there's a look at the track. If you are not tuning in, you're just listening. We're putting a little 3D rendering of the track. What do you think about it? What's your initial thought?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's, dude, it's going to be so good. I, I love the track. We're watching the 3D, you know, when the...


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[Assistant] Uh, over Jet Lawrence and, and, and Ken Roxton, you know, uh, Chase has been open about it. He feels comfortable on his Supercross setup on that HRC Honda before he heads over to Red Bull KTM. So.


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[Assistant] I mean, surely not only for the million bucks and the inaugural SMX title, definitely there's going to be a little more emphasis, uh, I would think for him to win.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then for the 250 class, I mean, you could make a, you could make a fair point and argument for the three guys that have a realistic shot.


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[Assistant] Those guys better not sleep on Kenny's skills. Uh, Kenny gets great starts.


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[Assistant] He's been at this game for a long time. He never really pushes it much to where he's gonna override, but his, his comfortable level of riding is just fast enough to win. So those guys slip.


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[Assistant] Boom, maybe he makes it, and I've said it before, Kenny shines in moments like this, hence the amount of times he's won the Anaheim opener. Uhm, you know, this, this three, this three race playoff kind of fits right into his wheelhouse.


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[Assistant] So he's gonna be good. Uhm, I think that, I think that Jett.


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[Assistant] Uh, hasn't really raced these guys much, uh, in supercrosses and tighter style tracks. And so who, who knows, you know, I think it's, it, it, nevertheless, it's going to be awesome.


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[Assistant] I mean the 250 clap is just gonna be, I think it's gonna be a whirlwind, myself personally. I think it's gonna be something.


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[Assistant] No, it's gonna be, it's gonna be good, but, uh, I'll see you there, brother. You're gonna be on RDL again.


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[Assistant] That's right, maybe we'll have a title 24 party in LA somewhere, like somewhere, I don't know.


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[Assistant] NBCsports.com and of course it's always on demand on Peacock and then wherever you download your favorite podcasts, we're on all podcast applications, you name it, Amazon Music, you can even ask Siri to listen to Title 24 and Siri will pull it up there for you.


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[Assistant] Yeah, by, by no means will we lighten the world on fire, uhm, in the motos. Uh, safe to say that, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] We were just kinda second moto, we were just kinda, I dunno, looking at the fans, just kinda...


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[Assistant] But, uh, yeah, first moto was unique because it's, you know, you go in with, with intentions of, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, not quite the championship finale people were hoping to see, like they, they got rewarded within the 450 class.


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[Assistant] It is what it is. It was either, oh hey, I'll win this title or I won't. That's as simple as that and, and I was okay with that, I think, you know. That's what maybe let me deal with it because it was like, I knew I was the best guy all year and it was like, okay, well, you know, a bike failure here, a DNF there.


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[Assistant] To, to give myself the best shot coming into Ironman. Give myself, set myself up with the best, uh, percentage to go out and, and wrap this championship up in Ironman, which I think I did really well. Unidilla and Bud's Creek were, were a must win for me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, absolutely, because, you know, Washrugal was a tough one just because a track's super high speed and it's a tough one to pass on and my starts weren't great, so you put...


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[Assistant] I kind of, uh, healed up the rib injury and then first motor red bar to, you know, good start and then just pretty much walked away. And then the second one obviously happened when it happened.


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[Assistant] It's tough, so it does help. You don't realize how much. It's literally just the off weekend.


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[Assistant] That, it just beats it up, and that one weekend off, or even two in this case, really does help, uhm, which, funny you said it in a thing last night.


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[Assistant] And I went flying through the air and landed on the downramp and rolled out of it in the off weekend before Unidilla and


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[Assistant] Thankfully, somehow, miraculously, I just got out of it with like a sore back, but my ribs were okay, which was bizarre, but you know, like those little scares are...


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[Assistant] A painful summer, to say the least. Everything up was sure, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, especially on the 250 side, where, you know, we don't see this many DNFs in 450s, just the 250s, where they're trying to extract every bit of power out of that engine, and it's a single piston, it's a small engine, and the numbers and how hard they rev and stuff, so it's...


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[Assistant] It's, you know, not about reliability. It's when you take anything and push it that much. It's, you're bound to ask for issues, you know.


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[Assistant] I couldn't finish the season on a 6'10". Couldn't finish the season on a 6'10 at Ironman. We had to finish strong.


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[Assistant] Yeah, sure, the frickin' candy crush. He's got water in the carby. Yeah, yeah, uhm.


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[Assistant] Obviously with Jett being around him and knowing what he went through and what kind of stuff happens.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, they were, well, my stick, they're the same stick. So it's like, you know, riding your practice bike or your, your race bike. Let's be real. We know how, we know the difference between those.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, uh, first of all, I'm gonna start with the excuses. So it was the Sunday after Daytona. So I'd race, you know, late night, not performing best yet.


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[Assistant] Like, we suck at golf, we, we can't be like, we're not good enough to get mad at the club after we hit a bad shot.


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[Assistant] We were playing and he just kind of kicked the ball and he looked at me and I looked at him and I was fine with it. Me, I don't care. You play whatever you feel comfortable with playing. And he goes,


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[Assistant] I can't remember, it was a big, maybe it was an expensive course or whatever and he goes, we don't pay this money to play shit lies. And I was like.


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[Assistant] 170 bucks? You know, I don't pay 170 bucks to play Shit Lies. That's a viable exchange.


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[Assistant] You know, you wanna pay, pay for the round, you gotta pay, use all the course, you wanna use all your course, you know. You're a quality over quantity kind of golfer is what we like to say.


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[Assistant] Uh, phone went flat. I found the photo of, uh, RV and Jet talking.


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[Assistant] So it's, it's fine. Let me get a few rounds on a few swings. I'm feeling confident. I'm feeling confident.


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[Assistant] Uh, the Dunlop due diligence, uhm, on two occasions, uhm, Chase Sexton spoke about his motorcycle and that Red Bull KTM and he's been saying, you know, about how they need to continue to get better and that they're not where they need to be and then


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[Assistant] You know, then they keep testing, they're making improvements, but they're still, they're not where he wants to be.


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[Assistant] This week, uhm, the reason I think, because I think he was more outspoken and we got the, our do dot, do, done lot due diligence section of the week is, is about Chase and his ongoing, uh, struggles with the machine. So, uh, roll the tape and see what he says. He's talking to Will Christian.


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[Assistant] I heard that he loved the star Yamaha.


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[Assistant] Right. I heard that, uh, from a pretty reliable source.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I actually busted him in Tallahassee. I saw him in town. I was passing, uh, he's pulling out of whole foods. He was with a sponsor of his. I'm like going by whole foods. I'm looking, I saw the sponsor he was with. I'm like.


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[Assistant] Who's in the car? And I saw, I'm like, oh crap, that was chased. And, uh, so, and then I had later heard that, uh, the, the star facility was closed for a couple of days and anyhow, but I will say like, then he rode, I mean, you just have to assume he rode the KTM.


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[Assistant] So at that point, and maybe I'm different, maybe you would have been different, but so I struggle with him saying that the bike isn't what he expected and.


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[Assistant] You know, and you know more than anyone, you don't get many cracks at being a supercross champion and, and, and so you want to eliminate as many throwaway years as possible or a rebuilding.


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[Assistant] Uh, that have, you know, like that are actually competing. I just think it's different.


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[Assistant] So I look back and I'm like, what were you expecting?


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[Assistant] I mean I, why did you not base your decision or did you base your decision off something different other than.


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[Assistant] That's how I would have based it on, and it sounds to me like he didn't make that decision because of that. Or maybe he had...


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[Assistant] I just don't think you can base that decision. I don't think you go that route.


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[Assistant] I just go back, like, I remember when, when I had an opportunity to ride the Honda before I left Cali, I'm like, if, if I didn't get on that motorcycle.


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[Assistant] And I knew, and I was kind of in a similar situation because the Honda that I rode.


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[Assistant] Was a 2001, the 2000, they didn't have the 2002 chassis ready yet.


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[Assistant] Okay, well, if it's not better, can I still ride this bike?


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[Assistant] And they're like, yes, but we do think, yes, but we do think that this one, the O2 model is going to be better because what you're feeling here, the O2 chassis,


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[Assistant] It was immediately better. It was better where I wanted it to be better. And I'm like, okay, I know I can win on this.


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[Assistant] I know I can win on this. It feels better in the areas where the, the Cowie I, I knew needed an improvement, but I knew in 2002 we weren't gonna be on anything new. So I, I needed to be on something better cause I just thought that MC was gonna be that much better.


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[Assistant] So, like, I just was guarding on the side of, okay, well, what if the O2 model isn't better?


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[Assistant] And it, it was better, so there, I didn't get to.


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[Assistant] Dude, I'm flabbergasted. I, and then he talked about the chassis.


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[Assistant] I go back to when he rode the chassis, like you came from an aluminum, you went to the KTM, you rode that, and then you rode the star bike.


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[Assistant] So what was, I would love to know what was the difference from


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, there you go. That's the, uh, Dunlop due diligence. Dunlop, we appreciate you guys, uh, best hire in the business. Speaking of Dunlop, these boys are going to have some serious, uh,


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[Assistant] serious decisions to make, whether they go paddle, whether they don't go paddle, uh, before we land the plane on Chase Sexton, uh, go listen to


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[Assistant] He, I mean, he just, he doo-dooed, in my opinion, in the nicest way possible on his bike. I mean, dude, he lets it rip. And you can see his displeasure.


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[Assistant] And one line that he says is like, they need a really tall ladder to dig theirself out of the hole that they are in. Just go listen to it. Y'all listen to it yourself.


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[Assistant] Uh, Louis was even, uh, sounded, sounded surprised, uh, when, when, when Chase was telling them these things. So, uh, I don't know, maybe Chase is trying to light a fire under the team, but.


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[Assistant] I'm with you. He planted the seeds, dude. And he's stuck. He is stuck and what you got is what you got. And you know what? At the end of the day.


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[Assistant] You know what? He's uhm, he, he's got what he's got and he's got to figure it, he's got to figure it out. That, that's the bottom line and, and he made the decision.


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[Assistant] And if he was influenced by someone in his inner group, then that's on him. Because at the end of the day, I know you would have made your own decision on that. Yea, you would have listened, but before you put pen to paper,


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[Assistant] You know, you, you're going to make the final straw and it's funny because, uh, rich, um, Richie lane is saying, yeah, there's speculation about him already leaving, uh, and maybe going to star in 26. So, uh, that, that'd be funny.


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[Assistant] We have to bring it up because we've kind of been talking about it like, you know, he's still in the title hunt and he's still in the title hunt. And I think it's over at this point. I think like for the championship, unless something gnarly happens and he gets on a win and turns things around. But, uh, yeah, it really just, uh, it really just nothing.


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[Assistant] That should be interesting to see what he does, you know, and maybe, maybe he, maybe he thinks that he can go another year and maybe he can recover from that time off. Uh, I think if he's thinking that.


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[Assistant] Uh, cause I can't see Eli going to race and just collecting a paycheck and, and,


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[Assistant] You know how Kenny's approach is, like he's just happy to get on the podium, he knows how hard it is to do that these days with how tough the field is, and like it's almost like Kenny is okay with not winning championships. Not saying that it is, I'm saying that it sounds like that. I don't, I don't know if


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[Assistant] Eli is that kind of competitor. I feel like he's a championship only guy and maybe, no, maybe he has more confidence in him. He's got more confidence in himself than some of us do with him and possibly winning another championship. And maybe he thinks, maybe he thinks, dude,


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[Assistant] A good decision, one that, uh, just isn't made up, uh, in, in short time. I, I would have to guess that, uh, he is maybe in, in, in a little less power play position with Monster Energy star Yamaha race team. And they may not give him that time that, uh, they once would have.


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[Assistant] Uh, just given his results. I know it sucks, but dude, that's business. That's how it goes. And you know, they, they have to protect, uh, their future as well. And I'm sure that they have, will, will have other options.


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[Assistant] You know, when we, when we start our season, we get the west coast and we get the four-footed guys in there. And then it kind of gets on a, you find your, your position, you find your, um.


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[Assistant] Your hat, your, uh, what, what's the word I'm looking for? Everything kind of falls into place. And then all of a sudden we throw the East coast involved. So I'm still excited about, you know, East coast because we haven't had many races yet.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, so like, I'm looking forward to see what Hayden's gonna come out, uhm, and do. How is he gonna recover coming into, into Arlington? Uhm, after, after that, you know, his, his bar's being bent down, that first turn pileup. And there was a lot, there was a lot of guys wrapped up in that first turn pileup.


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[Assistant] Um, that took a lot of heavy hitters out of, out of the equation for that round one. So that being said, yes, Austin rode phenomenal, but he also was kind of out there in no man's land by himself, right? So now we're going to see if all these, all the heavy hitters get through the first turn.


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[Assistant] You know, kinda, kinda, same, same, I think that we're gonna see, we're gonna see Jet, obviously, be, be, be phenomenal, AP, uhm,


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[Assistant] Coop. Coop's who I think I'm gonna have my eye on, like I said, uhm, for this weekend. Wanna see what Coop can pull out, where he's gonna, you know, how good he's gonna be, where he positions himself, and then moving on, looking a little bit farther forward, uhm, Eli for Daytona. That's, that's, those are my two guys I'm kinda looking for, right?


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[Assistant] Uhm, but yeaah, if you have big whoops, I hope they build big whoops. It does make it, that's part of Supercross for me. So I'd like to see some medium to bigger whoops. Uhm, you know, cause it really, it does separate the field. Uh, but if we're making nine now, you can go three, three, three. Uh, so it, we'll see.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, I think, uh, you know, a lot of people know Curly or JH, uh, we, we, we call it, we call it Curly, but, uh, he's basically your, uh, JH if you will, but he does a good job. So, uh, thank you, Rich and, uh, everyone at, uh, United American, uh, Mortgage Corporation for hosting us today. It's, uh, it's fun, but man, what a weekend. Um, there's so much, there's so much to talk about.


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[Assistant] You know, a broadcast standpoint, there was so much energy. Uh, one of our bosses from NBC was like, dude, you guys are, you guys are crushing it and, and you could feel it. My voice was shot halfway through. Um, but I'm with you and, and I go back to when we were at the Coliseum.


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[Assistant] I, I honestly, I didn't think it would have turned out as well as it did. I mean, when they, when they came up with this idea, I think it's everyone's goal to it for the championship to go down to the wire. Last race, last moto, like who,


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[Assistant] You know, like, you know, who's going to win it, like win or take all scenario. And, uh, I don't think that they could have scripted it, uh, any better. I really believe that. And.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was, it was a great, a great weekend all around 250, 450, and uhm, I think that what we will see in the future is I don't think that


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[Assistant] I think the SMX is going to continue to grow and be more and more important. What I am interested in moving forward for the SMX is.


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[Assistant] What is it going to do to like the Monster Energy Super Cross Series and that championship and the Pro Motocross Championship? Uh, I, I do think...


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[Assistant] Basically like the Supercross Championship and the Pro Motocross Championship. It's almost like to relate it to stick and ball. It's like there'll be conference championships. And then you have the, you know, you had the National Championship, which in our case would be, um, you know, World Supercross Champion or Super Motocross World Championship.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, I, I think it, it will. I don't know if that's gonna happen next year. I don't know if it's gonna happen the year after, but.


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[Assistant] Well, like we always do on Title 24, the 450 class, um, winner-take-all scenario. I know we've talked about that between, uh, Kenny, Jett, and Chase.


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[Assistant] Overall, what would you say one of the bigger takeaways was outside of, I mean,


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[Assistant] Jet was a favorite for sure, but was there one thing that sticks out in your mind that you weren't expecting? Like was there any, was there one takeaway for you?


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[Assistant] I thought like the small, tight areas, the hard packed stuff, it was really twitchy. It had like no forgiveness whatsoever, in my opinion. So he had his hands full. But as you know, your bike's not always going to be great. So he handled it for the position that he was in. I think he handled it, uh, phenomenally.


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[Assistant] I hated to see chase go down. I mean, really dude, that was, that was on him.


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[Assistant] Straight up, hate to call it like it is, and we're watching. This is uh, this is Chase. He has a pretty good lead, just cruising at this point, and then he's going to the outside of the sand section, and that, it was getting super rutted right there, so not sure.


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[Assistant] I mean, like dude, straight on, straight on the face mask of his helmet. I haven't heard this dude, okay.


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[Assistant] We're talking, talking how well Kenny wrote and it's really not a surprise. Super talented. Uh, it'll be interesting to see.


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[Assistant] If he can come into 2024 with that type of intensity, uhm, as he did, and he's certainly leaving this, you know, this year off on a good note. Uh, and uhm, let's see here.


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[Assistant] Great question. NJP, we appreciate you dude all season long. You've been in and, and sending some questions. Uh, he's like starting that season with a sorted bike. Will Roxanne be a title contender?


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[Assistant] Before you give your opinion, I think he's always, uh, I think he's always a title contender. I think he's going to be that much more comfortable on the bike, uh, having a little bit more time on it. But at the end of the day, I think Kenny's biggest challenge is going


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[Assistant] Going, going through the whole season. So do you, I mean, what's your thought on it?


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[Assistant] I know that, uh, a lot of people, and I was thinking about this last night, just kind of get my mind wrapped around what we talk about today.


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[Assistant] And I don't think a lot of people noticed, and I didn't until I thought about it last night, Jett Lawrence came in lower in the points than maybe he might in the future. Granted, he doesn't have any issues next year.


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[Assistant] Cause if you remember, you know, he, he only raced at 450.


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[Assistant] For the motocross series. So he came in what I can't remember what he came in seated like six or seven. So really.


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[Assistant] He, he overachieved for, for the most part and came in


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[Assistant] He spotted those guys, you know, certain amount of points.


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[Assistant] So if you're looking at it and you're really digging into, you know, okay, how can I be better next season? It's going to be harder for the guys going into the playoffs and the championship, assuming Jett does what Jett does. Uhm, so a great job by Jett.


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[Assistant] I, I hated to see this and I wanted to ask you what hap- like what you thought happened with, uh, with, with Barsha. That was a gnarly lick, dude. A gnarly lick. It comes out. I think he would've, I think he had, would've had a good shot to win that moto, at least. And you know how hard he is to get by. You gotta give him a little bit of extra room.


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[Assistant] What do you think happened there? Wrong gear, just a mistake, like it was slippery. From what you could tell.


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[Assistant] The hybrid track and I feel like you and I talked about this, you know, before we were doing this recording about how.


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[Assistant] Sometimes the easier tracks are the ones that jumps, jumps up and bite you. And I personally feel that it's that way because maybe guys aren't as focused as much. Like why, like why, why do you think it's funny to me?


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[Assistant] I want to know your opinion, like why, why do dudes crash so much or there's gnarly get offs on tracks, tracks that are easy.


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[Assistant] None of the tracks have whoops in the SMX. I know you like whoops. We talked about it early on in the Supercross season when that was kind of the big talk about whoop size and there needs to be more continuity. But like, dude, you know, I wasn't a whoop guy, especially later on in my career.


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[Assistant] I like the track without whoops. Do you think that they need to have a whoop section?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I didn't, I didn't realize they were going that fast. I mean, I knew it was fast. Well, I can tell you that, dude, there's no way you can argue that the racing wasn't good in the hybrid tracks. 100, 120%. I saw Zach Osborne, he tweeted, he's like, dude, tell me why we couldn't have.


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[Assistant] Definitely not a weekend where you don't want to have your, your starts, uh, your starts on par. But, uh, nevertheless, it was good. You know, I, I think we all get beat up sometimes, uh, in, in the media.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I think everyone's gonna have their hands full, but I'm excited to, to see what happens and you know, and anything can happen to him too. You know, he's a.


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[Assistant] One little, you know, twist away of the ankle and, you know.


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[Assistant] An injury could happen or whatever it might be, but I don't know. It was pretty.


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[Assistant] That other guys are going to raise their, raise their game to his level. I think that he is teaching guys how to do certain things and, and take their, take their ability to the next level. You mean take a guy like Eli Poma. Eli's never raced him. So maybe now Eli's, he's, I think that,


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[Assistant] I think it's twofold. Twofold, I think Jett can learn a couple things from Eli and I think that Eli can learn from Jett. Now I don't know where, and it brings me back to when I was racing Stu, there were things that


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[Assistant] I wasn't willing to take that risk and I wonder if Eli will be the same way. He'll learn, he'll learn some techniques in the way that Jett does things, but there's, I feel like there's a gnarly quad. I don't know that Eli would want to, want to take that chance. I don't think that he has to. I mean, do you, do you agree with that?


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[Assistant] Before we go to the 250, uh, we'd love to answer some questions here, so.


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[Assistant] Let's see here. Blake from Australia, Trent Maxwell, Robin Bystrom from Sweden. Two-fold it looks like. Chase losing the front end again.


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[Assistant] I can't remember what episode we talked about it, but it's...


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't know how that bike is going to be that much better. And it's going to be the magic answer to where chase is just going to start going out there and dominating all of a sudden and not making the same mistakes that he made this year. I just.


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[Assistant] I hope that he does. I think it'd be great. Why? Because it's going to give us great racing, something to talk about. And, and dude, he's talented, but I'm to the point where dude, he just got the show. He's got to show us.


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[Assistant] Dude, I go back, we gotta, we gotta find that clip where you were talking about it and...


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[Assistant] Uhm, on one of our episodes, we'll get our producer to dig back into the files. And we talked about this.


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[Assistant] You know, like where you're at on the track, what you can get away with, what you can't get away with. And you know, like, and stop making these mistakes because if you don't know what's happening, mistakes are going to happen. And I feel like it's a broken record and we're just, uh, repeating ourselves. So I hope that he does.


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[Assistant] Gotta thank our sponsors, United Motorsports, uh, six locations through Ohio, Kentucky area. Great company. They're building up and, uh, great people over there as well.


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[Assistant] Uh, Ray Butts, we talked about it. He was on a ride last week. Just a great guy. But check them out. Uhm, they, uh, like I said, they got everything that you'll need online. Uhm, Boxo USA, they're just down the road from where we're at, by the way. Uhm, they got an awesome, uhm, warranty program. It's awesome. Talk about that all the time, but I like their, uh, their tools.


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[Assistant] Uh, brands you can get to save yourself 10% off. So, uh, make sure you check that out and you can use it for 10% off. Uh, that's your promo code title 24. So thank you guys. Uh, switching gears into the two 50.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think the first thing, rip the bandaid off as a hunter. I wasn't expecting that. I didn't, dude, I didn't even know he crashed on Friday.


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[Assistant] Ben Watson, uh, we'll start with Hayden gets it done. Uh, Ben Watson, how do you feel about the SMX playoffs? Uh, how do you feel like they are for rookies? Uh, we saw that with Hayden Deacon, what Hayden Deacon did, but what about the others? Is it good or bad? Do you think that the playoff situation is good for rookies?


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[Assistant] You know, collecting his first championship in that. And then, and then again, then he went to promoter cross championship, which there was a lot happening. You know, he was hurt and then Hayden was coming on strong. So a lot to deal with mentally, but I just feel like I go, like I go back to Charlotte. He.


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[Assistant] Hunter's, you know, his reaction on the podium or his interviews for the most part in Supercross and Motocross. And look, watch his tone and how he was. He was just a little more energetic. And I feel once we got to Charlotte, he was completely different.


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[Assistant] He got the injury and that's why he wrecked, but at the same time, I don't feel like he was, he was in it maybe like he should be. Did you, did you get that sense like he wasn't digging the whole, uh, SMX vibe?


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[Assistant] And then they're doing versi as well. So now you keep, dude, you keep stacking, stacking, stacking.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's, yeaah, if he's over, if he was over at SMX, he better get used to it because, like I said, he's got MXO-N coming up.


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[Assistant] Paris and there's not going to be a lot of time. And then on top of that throwing in, he's making a switch from two 50, um, to four 50. But I want to, I want to ask you something about this. You talked about like Jordan Smith did great. Uh, Levi kitchen. He's a Pacific Northwest guy like yourself. What, like, what do you think a guy like Levi kitchen needs to do to


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[Assistant] Before we get to the 250 SMX World Champ Hayden Deegan, uhm,


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[Assistant] He got, he got hot when it counted, you know, like towards the end of, uh, promoter cross and he brought that tempo into, uh, to the playoffs and the, and the world championship round.


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[Assistant] I don't know, like he just, he didn't have the fire that lasts, that lasts the last moto when it counted. He couldn't reel Diggs in. Like what, what happened there?


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[Assistant] As well, so you would have to expect, expect this. And I was having, I was having another conversation, uh, with Johnny Oh last week. I know kind of going off script here.


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[Assistant] You know, like how much chatter goes on online on the, on the, on the, on all of the, uhm,


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[Assistant] And vital and all that stuff and on the boards.


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[Assistant] And anyhow, so going back to that was a good, good move by Joe. I was surprised. I thought that he was going to catch Hayden, especially what I saw from Hayden the first moto, but then I hear that he had, um,


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[Assistant] He made it happen. He made it happen. I think he's around to stay. I think he's great for the sport. I like watching him.


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[Assistant] He's always been cool to me. I have no reason not to like him. I respect him.


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[Assistant] When he came over, because I was kind of peeking, I was looking over the monitors.


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[Assistant] And yeah, he, he, I don't think he, he knew that he, he had won it. He was, he was like, wait, what's going on? So it would have been cool to see it. I think.


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[Assistant] Your writing styles changed throughout your career's brand slash slash class.


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[Assistant] I don't know that, I do think that my style changed a little bit, but I also think one of the reasons that it changed is number one, I learned to ride a little bit more within my limit. I knew how to set my bike up to be, you know, a little more comfortable and safer.


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[Assistant] I don't, I think I got a little bit smarter with my writing and line choice and Johnny helping me.


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[Assistant] So uhm, yeah, I don't think like my, I don't think my style changed much with certain bikes, just maybe set up and things like that. So, uh.


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[Assistant] I think as far as the whole SMX, like shifting gears, I guess like putting a bow on 2023 SMX World Championship and just the season in general.


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[Assistant] Uhm, what was your overall view, takeaways, things that, uh, you loved about it or liked about it, things you didn't like about it, maybe where it could be better, like as, as an overall, what, what, what'd you think?


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[Assistant] 100%, I mean dude, I echo basically, I basically echo exactly what you said. For sure it's going to be more refined. I mean, I think...


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[Assistant] Myself personally, it went better than I thought it was going to go, especially the point system. I, I, what, I understood it, but not as clearly as I understand it now. And it worked absolutely awesome. I mean, you could have, you couldn't have scripted it any better. Like a three way tie for the, or winner take all three way.


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[Assistant] For 250 and 450 for the most part and it coming down to the last moto also. I mean, the only other dream scenario you could have is coming down last moto last lap last corner.


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[Assistant] Right. I mean, so like anything, it's going to, there's some things that are going to take some tweaking. I know it's a long season. I don't always think that it's going to be 31 races. Um, but to get to where we needed to get to this juncture.


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[Assistant] You know, it is why it is that way, but to your point, it's the future. I think the biggest thing for me, what I'm looking forward to seeing how it plays out is what that Monster Energy Supercross Championship looks like.


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[Assistant] And what that promoter cross championship looks like and.


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[Assistant] How it's going to take precedent, what's going to take precedence. I think that the SMX World Championship is going, it's going to be the crown jewel.


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[Assistant] Just when is that pendulum going to switch? Is it going to be next year? Is it going to be the third year? And that's, that's really what I'm excited to see. I think that the, the playoff system, the points, all that stuff is going to continue to get better.


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[Assistant] Uh, we're not done. We're going to have some fun little, uh, episodes in the off season, try to line up some interviews, give the boys, uh, some time off, some RV, RV and I some time off, uh, take a couple weeks reprieve, uh, like I said, and get some, uh, get some guests on the show, talk to some of these, uh, world champs, hopefully.


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[Assistant] Uhm, United American Mortgage Corporation, thank you for, uh, hosting title 24 today. But yeah, uhm, like that RV said, dude, reach out to us and.


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[Assistant] On that and, uh, and we want to give you guys what you want and, uh, we're always open to suggestions. Might not always like them, but, uh, we're definitely gonna listen to them for sure. But, uh, thanks for the support along the way.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, uh, RV and I just sitting on our couches, retired, talking about what could've, should've, and what we would've done back in our day, or not have done back in the day. Jett Lawrence talks about racing, Eli, and what that was like, because in the off season, Eli had said,


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[Assistant] Or pardon me, uh, jet had said that, uh, he looked forward to racing Eli and you got to think about this is jet has never.


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[Assistant] When we roll this tape, you gotta keep this in mind that Jets really never raced with Eli very much battling. Okay. And learning what Eli does, maybe learning what Eli doesn't do. So just keep that in mind, even though there's been what? Six, six races.


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[Assistant] Uh, throughout the series. Yep. Uh, roll the tape and let's see what jet says about, uh, racing Eli.


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[Assistant] And uh, if that was for the win, that pass was for the lead, I should say.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, you talk about the changing of the guard. I think that was one of the topics, uh, of the opening of the show in Anaheim.


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[Assistant] RV is like, have we seen a changing of the guard? And if I'm Eli, I would have been pissed. I'm like, why are you guys just chalking it up as there is a changing of the guard and does Eli feel like that?


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[Assistant] It was late in the race and I think to your point also.


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[Assistant] Is that yeah, there was an element there where Eli was probably like, let me, let me follow this dude for as long as I can and see what he's doing. And maybe I can learn something that's going to help me get back in the position to be in this championship battle. So.


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[Assistant] That's a heck of a, uh, uh, handle there. Uh, why didn't Eli put up much of a fight against Jett and basically let him buy RV? You answered it. Uh, you said exactly right. What, what you thought and why he did that.